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Talk:Sidney Blumenthal

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I am wondering if prehaps someone could go into some details about his feud with Christopher Hitchens?

I thought the feud was between Sidney's son, Max, and Hitchens

Since so many articles about journalists devote considerable space to the alleged political leanings of the subject (see, for example, Brit Hume), I wish someone could document the highly politicized nature of Mr. Blumenthal's writing. WBcoleman 02:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ive added a little bit on his political leanings, which are liberal (though I think its inappropriate to ascribe a word to describe someones political leanings. To address this Ive just written that some people say his work as controversial and it is generally critical of the Republican party. LordHarris 00:11, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Blumenthal and Starr
The claim that Blumenthal's criticism of Kenneth Starr caused a drop in support for the Starr is sourced to Blumenthal's own book. WP wouldn't let Blumenthal edit such a statement into his own article... why should a book written by him be a sufficient source on an arguable point? --207.230.140.240 15:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * An IP user just removed this claim. I think that is a fair call.  Blumenthal's book could be cited for the proposition that "Blumenthal claimed in his book, xxxxx, that..." if the fact that he claimed it merits mention, but it shouldn't be used as a source for the proposition that what Blumenthal claimed happened actually did happen.  If Blumenthal's statements caused a loss of public support for Starr, we should look to a third party source to confirm that.  Wikidemo (talk) 16:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

DWI
Let's keep a sense of perspective here. This is an encyclopedia, not a newspaper. Many people have a DWI arrest, and in nearly every case it isn't appropriate to mention because it bears no significant relationship to their notability, or why anyone would want to read an article about them. Thus, going in to specific details is almost certainly unnecessary, and in a short article about an important person is unbalanced. This is a current news story. In the long run he will be exonerated or not, receive a particular sentence or not, and that will be that. Covering the case, the evidence, the possible penalties, etc., is unimportant in the end. It's probably worth mentioning in this case because he was on official business working for a major presidential candidate, it was widely reported, and there is some logical connection however tenuous between the process of running for president and the discipline and moral / legal behavior of the candidate's staff. But only a very slight connection 18:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Those comments are all just matter of opinion. Wikipedia HAS to treat everyone fairly equally.  Now, there are tons of examples where Republicans get a DWI and there are long, long paragraphs on the incident.  This is a fact.  Now, Blumenthal is known by most everyone as the Clinton enforcer.  He was summoned every time there a "bimbo eruption" to track down dirt on the woman coming forward to complain about Bill Clinton's aggressive behavior toward women.  The DWI is notable and it should have its own section.  It should not buried as a little footnote at the end.  There is no way that Blumenthal himself would have let Linda Tripp get away with a little tiny footnote mention of a DWI, if he was editing Wikipedia. Also, you are dead wrong in your statement that "Many people have a DWI arrest, and in nearly every case it isn't appropriate to mention because it bears no significant relationship to their notability".  For example, the Bush Twins are notable because they are daughters of the President.  But for the longest time their article was dominated by the beer drinking incident of a 19 year old.  No, they did not get ticket with a Aggravated DWI, doing 70 in a 35, (which is much, much more serious offense) but drinking beer at 19. Other examples are too numerous to mention but let's just over a few: (1) Britney Spears, (2) Al Gore III, (3) George W. Bush, (4) Mel Gibson, (5) Lindsey Lohan, (6) Patrick Kennedy, (7) Dick Cheney, (8) Gordon Campbell, current Premier of British Columbia (complete with mugshot), (9) Paris Hilton, (10) Tony La Russa, (11) Robert Downey Jr., etc.  Wikipedia has even dedicated a whole article to Mel Gibson's DWI. See Mel Gibson DUI incident.  Why?  Well, how about the fact that he is a conservative? Yes, the way that different people are treated across Wikipedia does matter.  Consistency will apply.   We are not going to bury the Enforcers' Aggravated DWI just because he is a liberal and he is working for Clinton.  What is good for the conservative goose is good for the liberal gander.  Besides, it does not fit into "Post Clinton Years."  It has nothing to do with his work, but everything to do with his driving and the FACT that he was leaving a Clinton rally.  It has notability written all over it:  (1)  his past behavior toward his political opponents, (2) the seriousness of the offense, (3)  the fact that he was driving from a Clinton rally to his hotel while he was hammered, (4) not only was he drunk but he was significantly over the speed limit.--InaMaka (talk) 23:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There's no reason for this to have its own section. A subsection is not the equivalent of "burying it in a footnote". It's there for all to see in the table of contents. Gamaliel (talk) 23:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I was writing a comment but you commented before me. I agree with your compromise edit.  However, let's be clear I NEVER stated that your edit was "burying", but I did say and I stand by it that Wikidemo's move of the info to the end of Post-Clinton years without some kind of markings was "burying."  You made a good compromise, but once again I never commented on the "subsection" because you just made the edit a few minutes AFTER my comments of 23:05 14 January 2008 (UTC).--InaMaka (talk) 23:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

 * I also cleaned up the mention of the Blumenthal v. Drudge incident. The claim of spousal abuse was clearly false so using the phrase "beat up his wife" is unwarranted.  The case is not a significant libel law case.  It was resolved on very common principles with no change to the law, and is not any kind of watershed - the sources do not support the claim that it was "portentious."  The issues in the ruling had to do with personal jurisdiction and common carrier law.  The ruling did not require the apology or settlement, which was over a sanction for missing a deposition.  Wikidemo (talk) 18:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with these changes.--InaMaka (talk) 23:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

April, 2008
Look, the blow-by-blow account of which test he passed and failed, how fast he was driving, how long he lost his driver's license, the dates of each judicial process, the amount of fine he paid, etc., are utterly irrelevant and unnecessary details. This is supposed to be an article that explains the salient details of the person's life and career. We do not need to know all of that. It is entirely out of proportion to the coverage of other details of his life. Creating a heading out of it makes it one of only a few headings in the article. I'm tempted to say it shouldn't be included at all. I just looked up a statistic that as of 2000 there were 1,400,000 DWI arrests in America per year. Making some assumptions and taking into account 50% are repeat offenders, that means 20% or so of all Americans will have a DWI arrest at some point in their lives. Do we want to add full DWI arrest coverage to 1/5 of all the biographical articles on Wikipedia? I think not. The only relevance here is that this became a (very) minor scandal and news story, particularly among the conservative press, because he was a top advisor to Hillary Clinton and was out on the campaign trail when it happened. So it's probably okay to mention it in that context, but it's a rather significant WP:BLP violation to use a single relatively minor misdemeanor conviction a primary focus of a biography article, or as a way of disparaging him or the presidential candidate he was working for at the time. One question about the notability of articles and relevance of information is "would anyone care to read about this 100 years from now"? 100 years from now somebody might care about Sidney Blumenthal, but nobody will care one bit that he was convicted of DWI. Wikidemo (talk) 04:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. In the context of being on the campaign trail, one small sentance is enough, to report the fact. Any more is blatant defiance of WP:BLP. LordHarris  15:42, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Dear Wikidemo and LordHarris: You might be right, but until this article: Mel Gibson DUI incident then Mr. Blumenthal's drinking and driving habits are fair game.  Philsophically, I agree with your points of view.  But the Mel Gibson article points out clearly that by Wikipedia standards long detailed discussions of drinking and driving are not beyond the pale of Wikipedia.  Now, I know that in good faith both of you are more than willing to argue to have the Mel Gibson article removed if you both are so determined to clean up Mr. Blumenthal's image--because it is clear that both of you are truly worried about the image of Wikipedia and not the partisan reputation of a well-known Democrat.  You both want to see the reputation of a well-known conservative like Mr. Gibson protected to, don't you both??  I'm sure that you do.--InaMaka (talk) 01:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you're talking about but please don't edit war over inserting BLP violations into Wikipedia. I am removing again.  Please DO NOT keep adding this.  Wikidemo (talk) 02:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that Wikidemo seems to believe that it is ok to engage in an edit war. He has not responded to the drinking and driving issues raised by the Mel Gibson article. I will be reverting to the previous version.  Please take your desire to eliminate new information to arbitration.  Please DO NOT keep removing new reliably sourced information about Blumenthal's drinking and driving habits.  Please read:  Wikipedia does not censor.--InaMaka (talk) 02:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not for censoring the information! I just think it needs to be more concise, so as not add weight in relation to the other areas within the article. At the end of the day, whats there is not libel (so long as it isnt out of proportion), its the truth so there should definately be a mention of it. As to its extent, I think that requires further discussion here, rather than with edit reverts. Lets keep the page as it is for now and discuss here, before making any changes. Hopefully we can avoid a real edit war! LordHarris  08:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have reverted again as a BLP violation. Even if we were working on consensus there is no consensus to include the information; however, BLP as a policy that is not up for debate.  The state of the Mel Gibson article has nothing to do with this one so I won't comment on whether that article follows policy or not.  However, Mel Gibson's situation is completely different.  His conduct at the arrest itself was notable, and one could not convey the significance of the event without saying what he did.  Here, the only thing that made the event notable was, as I said, that it involved an advisor to a Presidential candidate and we are in an election season.  Throughout Wikipedia people seem to be bent on adding material that disparages the various candidates and political operatives and we need to take a firm line on that.  InaMaka is trying to debate aggressively and his/her points about censorship and Mel Gibson don't make a whole lot of sense.  I cannot imagine that the proposed addition would pass any kind of administrative oversight or review process.Wikidemo (talk) 15:26, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "BLP as a policy that is not up for debate". Ah, but it is.  Since you are such a champion of the policy, why don't you come over here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Biographies_of_living_persons#the_slippery_slope_of_having_a_.22distress.22_policy_over_and_above_a_reliable_source_policy and defend it?Bdell555 (talk) 02:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Fox News
Article alleges that during the 2004 primary he fed a negative story on Obama to Roger Ailes. http://m.gawker.com/5903082/the-anti+obama-emails-roger-ailes-forwards-to-his-underlings?fwcc&fwcl&fwl --Larrybob (talk) 14:38, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Barack Obama's birthplace
There is a paragraph that keeps getting added and deleted by anonymous editors. I'm deleting it and moving it to the Talk page where those anonymous editors who keep putting it back can re-write it if they like to get it up to wikipedia standards.

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Linked sources: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html, http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/17/politics/hillary-clinton-birther-conspiracy/

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 * Only including working references
 * Explicitly mention that Blumenthal didn't work for Hillary Clinton's campaign (noted in CNN source)
 * In the main source Blumenthal says “This is false. Period.”, which I think is a stronger disagreement than the one quoted
 * Blumenthal, considered by some to be the father of the birther conspiracy: this statement has no source and in fact the included sources disagree with it

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 * It's just some persistent editor's insistence on adding tertiary Trumper campaign fodder. I would hope that now the election is over they will find something else to do. - Wikidemon (talk) 04:21, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

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Waratah motorcycles

Waratah motorcycles were manufactured in Sydney, Australia, from before 1911 to around 1948, although Waratah badged motorcycles were sold into the 1950s.

Initially Waratah motorcycles were manufactured by the Canada Cycle & Motor Agency, Ltd. on George Street, Sydney, who from at least 1910 built from standard parts, or rebadged BSA bicycles as, Waratah bicycles. W.A.Williams had been the manager of the Sydney branch of this business and in 1905 he bought it, retaining the name until 1913. In 1913 the bicycle and motorcycle part of the business was taken over by his sons, Perce and Reg, and the name was changed to Williams Bros., and later P&R Williams. This business, initially at 213–7 Elizabeth Street, Sydney, is widely known as the manufacturer of Waratah motorcycles from 1914 to 1948. Subsequent addresses of 255-259 Elizabeth St by the early 1920s, and 117 Goulburn St in the later 1920s are detailed in newspaper advertising, also detailing that the business changed its name to P.and R. Williams Pty Ltd, and later moved to 74-78 Wentworth Avenue Surry Hills.

Initially, they made small machines assembled from predominantly British components, including Villiers engines, Sun frames, Druid and Brampton forks. In fact, in 1921 they described themselves as sole importers of Villiers-Waratah Motor-Cycles. Fafnir and V.T.S. engines were also used.

In the later years (post World War II), they badge engineered using, it is believed, Norman and Excelsior machines.

They were Australia's longest running motorcycle manufacturer. However little information seems to have survived, presumably because these were low-value utility machines.

Models
There is no detailed definitive history of the Waratah models, but from books, press articles, sales brochures and adverts, the following outline picture seems clear:
 * <1911 to 1913?: 4.5 hp model with a Fafnir engine
 * 1914 to ~1930: 197 cc and 350 cc models, built from Villiers (and initially also V.T.S.) engines and various frames and forks.
 * 1930s: 125 cc, 148 cc and 250 cc models, built from Villiers engines and various frames and forks.
 * post-war: Badge engineered Norman (possibly) and/or Excelsior (almost certainly). Possibly there was also a Waratah autocycle.

More details are known for certain years:

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The West Side Waltz

The West Side Waltz is a play by Ernest Thompson.

The play focuses on Margaret Mary Elderdice, an aging, widowed pianist living in a dreary Upper West Side apartment, and her relationships with a prim, virginal violinist neighbor and the young companion who moves in for an extended stay. Thompson was prompted to write the piece when screenwriter George Seaton offered him a grant to write a new play following the success of his previous work, On Golden Pond.

The play originally was presented off-Broadway in 1978. After three previews, the Broadway production, directed by Noel William, opened on November 19, 1981, at the Ethel Barrymore Theatre. Despite the presence of screen legend Katharine Hepburn, supported by Dorothy Loudon, Regina Baff, and David Margulies, it ran for only 126 performances. Hepburn was nominated for a Tony Award for Best Actress in a Play, but lost to Zoe Caldwell (Medea).

Thompson wrote the teleplay for and directed a CBS production that originally aired on Thanksgiving night in 1995. The cast included Shirley MacLaine, Liza Minnelli, Kathy Bates, Jennifer Grey, Estelle Harris, and Robert Pastorelli.

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Yimam of Yejju

Yimam of Yejju (also transliterated Imam; died 1828) was a Ras of Begemder and Enderase (regent) of the Emperor of Ethiopia. He was the son of Gugsa of Yejju.

Upon succeeding his father Gugsa as Ras when Gugsa died in 1825, Yimam was challenged by his brother Marye, who staged an open revolt.

According to Trimingham, Ras Yimam openly supported Islam against the local Ethiopian Church. He also grew so annoyed at Abuna Qerellos III's intervention in the doctrinal dispute over the nature of Christ in support of the Sost Lidet, that he banished the Abuna to the monastery in Lake Hayq, where Abuna Qerellos remained until his death (circa 1828).

While Ras Yimam was away in Gojjam campaigning against Dejazmach Goshu Zewde, Dejazmach Haile Maryam marched from Semien to Gondar where replaced Emperor Gigar with his own choice, Baeda Maryam. When Yimam heard of this, he returned by way of Dengel Ber, pursuing Dejazmach Haile Maryam as far as Waldebba where they fought for three days until 25 December 1825, when Haile fled the battlefield for Semien by way of Wegera where he later died, allowing Ras Yimam to restore Gigar to the throne.

Typically for the Zemene Mesafint, relationships between these major lords quickly changed. As Sven Rubenson describes, Dejazmach Haile Maryam's son Wube was captured in the battle, but Yimam's ally Dejazmach Meru of Dembiya convinced Yimam to free the boy. Not long after, Yimam joined forces with Wube, who had succeeded his father as Dejazmach, against Goshu and Meru in the Battle of Kossober October 1827, defeating their opponents. Goshu fled to sanctuary in Gojjam, while Meru was soon killed after the battle by a soldier. The following year, Ras Yimam "died by violence" in Debre Tabor. He was buried at the church of Iyasus in that town.

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Vox (song)

"Vox" is the debut single by Canadian singer-songwriter Sarah McLachlan. It was released in 1988 in Canada from her album Touch, and as a CD-single in 1992. The 1989 Arista Records release of Touch contained a different mix of the song from the original 1988 album, and different extended remixes were released as well. "Vox" reached number 90 on Canada's RPM Top Singles chart but failed to chart elsewhere.

"Vox" was also featured on McLachlan's 2005 Bloom: Remix Album as a contemporary dance remix by Tom Middleton.

Music videos
In the Canadian version of the music video, directed by Mark Jowett and Dermot Shane, McLachlan sings "Vox" while falling water and flowers are superimposed over her. At the end she stands on top of a rock and throws flowers into the water. In the black-and-white American version, directed by Michelle Mahrer, McLachlan sings and plays guitar in a long black dress in a desert.

Track listing
7": Arista / ASI-9804 United States
 * 1) "Vox" (Single version) – 4:15
 * 2) "Solsbury Hill" (Live)
 * US promo

7": Arista / 112 217 Germany
 * 1) "Vox" (Radio version) – 4:15
 * 2) "Touch" – 3:11

12": Nettwerk / NT12 3023 Canada
 * 1) "Vox" (Extended remix) – 6:49
 * 2) "Vox" (Radio mix) – 4:15
 * 3) "Vox" (Dub mix) – 7:19
 * With black picture sleeve
 * 1988 release

12": Nettwerk / W1-3023 Canada
 * 1) "Vox" (Extended Dance remix)
 * 2) "Vox" (Radio mix) – 4:15
 * 3) "Vox" (Instrumental)
 * 1989 release

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 * 1) "Vox" (Extended Version) – 6:49
 * 2) "Vox" (Radio Version) – 4:15
 * 3) "Vox" (Album Version) – 4:48
 * 4) "Vox" (Dub Version) – 7:19
 * US promo

CD: Nettwerk / W2-3070 Canada
 * 1) "Vox" (Extended mix) – 6:59
 * 2) "Vox" (Instrumental Dub Mix) – 5:43
 * 3) "Into the Fire" (Extended remix) – 6:00
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Orotava Valley

The Orotava Valley (Valle de la Orotava) is an area in the northern part of the island of Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain. The valley measures 10 km by 11 km, and stretches from the north coast to about 2,000 m elevation, at the northern foot of Pico del Teide.

Background
To the west and east, the valley is delimited by two steep escarpments, respectively the Ladera de Tigaiga and the Ladera de Santa Ursula. The Orotava valley formed as the result of a large landslide some 560,000 years ago. The valley takes its name from La Orotava, the largest town in the area. Other towns are Los Realejos and Puerto de la Cruz. In the era of the Guanches, before the conquest by the Spanish in 1496, the valley was known as Taoro.

It was here the conquest of Tenerife ended on July 25, 1496, with the Treaty of Los Realejos between the Taoro mencey and Alonso Fernández de Lugo. It was in honor of the cessation of hostilities that the first Christian church, Parroquia Matriz del Apóstol Santiago, in honor of the patron saint of Spain, was built.

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Music and Company

Music and Company was a classical music program that aired from 6:00 am to 9:00 am on weekdays from CBC Radio 2. It was discontinued in September 2008.

The Host
Tom Allen was the host of Music and Company since 1998. He is an accomplished trombonist and writer. He hosted the CBC Radio 2 Weekender show for two years (1991-1992) and also hosted the Fresh Air show.

Cage Match
Every week Tom Allen hosted a "cage match". Tom chose two pieces of classical music and had a competition between the two. The piece with the most votes from listeners won.

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Resource
If the extensive amount of information at the City of Marion website is applied to this article it would be up for feature quality. - Michaelgabrielsen 02:01, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
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Facilities and attractions
Major facilities and attractions in the City of Marion include:
 * SA Aquatic and Leisure Centre
 * Marion Cultural Centre
 * Westfield Marion Shopping Centre
 * Marion Outdoor Pool
 * Cove Civic Centre
 * Living KauCultural Centre
 * Marion Coastal Walking Trail
 * Warriparinga Wetland
 * Oaklands Wetland and Reserve
 * Tonsley

Services
The City of Marion provides a range of services including road maintenance, drainage, waste collection, disposal and recycling, recreation and outdoor spaces, community care, cultural and educational activities, and library and information services.

Marion historic information sources

 * Marion Heritage
 * Heritage Listed items in Marion
 * Marion Historic Village
 * Marion Historic Village Heritage Walk
 * Marion Local History
 * The History of Marion on the Sturt, by Alison Dolling, 1981
 * MARION 1945 – 2000: A Suburban City, by R.J.R. Donley, 2001
 * Sturt River Linear Park
 * Marion Coast Park Brochure
 * Marion Coast Park Walks Map
 * Coastal Management in Marion
 * Marion Coastal Walking Trail
 * "Marion Walk" – Postcards Series 12 Episode 16, Sunday 25 June 2006, 5:30pm, Channel 9 Adelaide
 * Drive through Marion's Historic Hills
 * Field River Environs
 * Friends of the Lower Field River
 * Great Urban Southern Forest (GSUF)
 * Great Southern Urban Forest report
 * Marion Greenbelt Summary Sheet
 * Marion Greenbelt Maps
 * Warriparinga Wetlands
 * O'Halloran Hill Recreation Park
 * Marino Conservation Park
 * Hallett Cove Conservation Park
 * Sturt River Linear Park
 * Coast to Vines Rail Trail
 * Marion Historical Society
 * Public Art in Marion

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Talk:Black+Decker

Update needed
It appears that the appliance division of Black and Decker is now owned by Spectrum Brands (not by Stanley.) Mopep222 (talk) 15:59, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Pan American World Airways/archive2

Pan American World Airways
Though it might appear to be a short time since this article was taken off the FAC page, but I have decided to renominate it. In the first attempt, the article got only one comment, which I addressed to the best of my abilities, and one support vote. I am hoping that this article will receive more votes and comments on the second try. Pentawing 21:11, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * First FAC listing
 * Refer to peer review . No matter how the nominator feels the article was treated in its first FAC, it is very inappropriate to re-nominate an article only a day after the previous one failed. Without wanting to sound too angry, this screams of WP:POINT. Accept the decision and work to improve the article further with the help of others. Harro5 00:16, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * From the first FAC listing, the article was only on the nomination page for six days (it was removed on August 26), with the responses happening only on the first two days the article was listed (and no responses afterwards). I should note that the article has gone through peer review twice, and that I have attempted to address your concerns and was waiting for a reply. I am not trying to prove a point; instead, I am trying to get more feedback given that the article didn't get much on the first try (nor has it been noticed much since). Pentawing 16:09, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * The nominator has kindly explained to me their reasoning for this swift re-nomination, and I accept that they are right to feel the first FAC received a poor hearing. I have had a good look at the article, and am prepared to support this FA nomination. I am especially impressed that the timeline stuff doesn't just read like a timeline, and that all the photographs are well tagged - even the copyright images have explanations on their description pages as to why they are needed - Carnildo would be ecstatic. Well done Pentawing, and I'm sorry if I seemed brash in my reaction to this second listing. Harro5 04:22, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

 * Support. I think this is a well researched, well written article. I always wondered what happened to PanAm, and now I know. One thing that struck me, however, and this is very minor, is that the article perhaps does not quite capture how big and everpresent PanAm was during its heyday, and how such a seeming titan came to basically disappear. This may be due a bit to the style of the writing, but I can't think of any way to improve it.  I really enjoyed the article and give it my full support as a FA. Nrets 00:35, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Support. Seems to meet the standards enough after thinking about it. I'll always want more and better references though. There were a few supports and no objects in past FAC noms if I recall. Comments. It looks pretty good and I can see supporting with some improvements :). Specific remarks: 1) Six references is a bit light, do you have access to any other general aviation books that speak to Pan Am's importance in aviation or perhaps shed light on any more negative aspects? Not that there needs to be mention of anything unimportant, but 5 of the 6 sources are focused on Pan Am which could result in favoritism. Also the three external links listed as references need to be formatted as at Cite sources. And the citation is pretty good, but I'd always like to see more, particularly for any of the most important points in the article. 2) The focus is pretty tilted. Is the historical company really 5 times as important as the recent incarnations? You've given it 5 times as much coverage, and well over half the article. It seems like it's possible that's justified but also possible the recent incarnations should be covered a bit more. You'd know, so just as long as you can justify it. 3) The lead is short, especially the second paragraph, and should be expanded a bit. It summarizes the article reasonably well, so maybe pick out a few of the most important points from the article that aren't in the lead already and cover them. Three full paragraphs wouldn't be too much, but it's up to you. Two full ones is fine too. 4) There are a number of one and two sentence paragraphs which hurt the flow and show areas that should either be expanded or merged with related material. 5) There is still some airline jargon and things that could be made more clear, like parastatal that I fixed. If you want me to point them out I can, but just look to add contextual definitions or explanation of most things the average reader wouldn't know. 6) Last, the history section makes reference to things that I can never see if they are later explained. For ex in the clipper era, "Pan Am also procured an airmail contract from Boston to Halifax, preparing for North Atlantic flights in the future." Were there ever such flights? That's all for now. :) - Taxman Talk 02:54, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments. I went through the article once more:
 * 1. I found some more relevent sources and listed them. Though I only glanced through them, they did talk about Pan Am in some way.
 * Well that's not really what I meant. To be listed as sources they have to have been actually used to add or fact check material in the article. Listing them without that isn't a good idea. Does the coverage those sources have agree factually and in POV with the article? - Taxman Talk 18:10, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * 2. Unfortunately, this cannot be helped. The reason is that much has occurred with the original airline than with the latter incarnations, and that the original airline was more of a pioneering airline. When I looked at the latter incarnations of Pan Am, there isn't much worth mentioning about since the history of those two entities is similar to the history of other modern airline startups, though in this case these startups used the Pan Am name (one example I could easily think of whose history is similar is the recent incarnation of National Airlines, which folded a few years ago).
 * That is what I was getting at. If it really is just that much more important then the extra focus in the article is appropriate. I was just asking you to explicitly confirm that, since often articles have details out of proportion to importance. - Taxman Talk 18:10, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3. I tried to expand the lead to two full paragraphs.
 * Looks good. - Taxman Talk 18:10, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4. Went through and fixed them.
 * Also looks good. - Taxman Talk 18:10, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * 5. I am trying to address this, though I would appreciate your pointing out exactly which sections have the problem.
 * Well after fixing just a few it looks good, so I see now I assumed there were more than there were, sorry. I can't find any obvious ones now. - Taxman Talk 18:10, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * 6. I believed that I have addressed this issue, but I need a second look. Thanks.
 * Pentawing 21:42, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think that's probably fine. Good fixes, which hopefully weren't terribly difficult, but I do think the article is better now. The only remaining problem is the references. If you can spend a little more time with those two new ones to fact check and/or correct or adjust anything needed based on them that would be a lot better. Oh, and the accidents section seems a little mis-titled. Terrorist acts are done on purpose to an extent, so is there a more inclusive way of covering that? I won't be too much a stickler on this one since I can't think of anything better myself, besides 'accidents and terrorism'. Paragraphs in that section could probably still also use a bit of expansion. - Taxman Talk 18:10, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * I addressed the issues concerning the accident section. In the meantime, I am looking over the new sources and would be finished soon. Pentawing 21:00, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * I checked the new sources, and was able to confirm information that is currently in the article. Pentawing 23:03, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * There were seriously no corrections or new important facts from those sources, and nothing worth citing. I don't see how that is possible. - Taxman Talk 23:21, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment: Is this data accurate in the article? Do you have some reference to support it? Where did it come from?
 * The airline also participated in several notable humanitarian flights. Pan Am operated 650 flights a week between West Germany and West Berlin, first with the DC-6B and, in 1966, with the Boeing 727
 * 650 flights a week, that is about 93 flights a day, almost 4 flights an hour. That in 1966... Just checking if the data is accurate. Thanks. nacul19:35, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

 * The information is indeed correct. I placed a footnote pointing to where the information had come from. Pentawing 23:02, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * Support -- ALoan (Talk) 12:19, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Mild concern at the faulty prose. A quick look revealed two clumsy instances of the possessive apostrophe at the opening, and numerous instances of 'aircrafts', which is incorrent. It's not too bad, but not yet "brilliant'', as Wikipedia requires. Tony 16:12, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I did some more copyediting. Is there any other problems? Pentawing 22:39, September 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * I've gone through it up to 1962; please go through the rest and ensure that there's one space consistently after the stops; remove 'in order' to; check commas—some required for precision of meaning, a few are excess. Then my opinion will be neutral. Tony 01:01, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Went through the rest of the article - I believe that I have corrected the problems, but I need a second look. Pentawing 03:01, September 10, 2005 (UTC)


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Heartland Village, Staten Island

Heartland Village is a residential development located close to the geographic center of Staten Island, one of the five boroughs of New York City, USA. The name is also often used to denote the immediately surrounding area.

Heartland Village is located within the New Springville neighborhood of Staten Island. Heartland Village is originally named for a housing development created in the late 1960s which occupied a square-shaped area bounded by Richmond Avenue, Rockland Avenue, Richmond Hill Road, and Forest Hill Road, exclusive of the various shopping centers also located therein. The Staten Island Mall is located south of Richmond Hill Road.

Heartland Village's proximity to the Staten Island Mall and many other smaller shopping centers nearby has made it one of the island's most attractive residential communities; indeed, the region has emerged as the island's second largest commercial and administrative hub, after St. George.

History
New Springville was originally a rural and wooded community. The construction of the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge (opened in 1964) led to the establishment on Staten Island of many large residential development communities. One of the largest development communities to emerge was the Heartland Village community. Construction of the Heartland Village Community started in the late 1960s and would continue through the early 1980s.

Most of the homes in Heartland Village consist of two family homes with six or seven rooms in the main home, with three bedrooms. These are medium-sized homes. In recent years, with most new construction has been focused on larger homes or condominiums, these medium-sized homes have become particularly desirable.

Education
With the increasing residential population, a need arose for new schools to be built in the community. In 1976, two such schools opened: An elementary school, P.S. 69, the Daniel D. Tompkins School and I.S. 72, the Rocco Laurie Intermediate School.

Transportation
Heartland Village is served by various local and express buses. The local buses and  express buses travel along Richmond Avenue. The local buses and  express buses run along Travis Avenue and Merry Mount Street.

Demographics
As of the 2010 census, the demographics were as follows: 76.48% White, 1.94% Black, 16.17% Asian, 3.22% Some Other Race, and 1.99% Two or More Races. Hispanics or Latinos of any race made up 12.10% of the population. The population density was 21,473.61 people per square mile, with a density of housing units of 8,250.96 per square mile.

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Category talk:Township municipalities in Quebec

The description for this article, should state the clearly what is, and what is not a "township" in Quebec. Does it exclusively refer to cantons? What about parishes, and or other types of municipalities? Anyhow, I'm not arguing with the category at this stage, because it first needs a proper definition. --rob 02:14, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Quebec's "cantons" are known as "townships" in English. "Paroises" are "parishes". Other municipalities are designated "city", "town", "village" or simply "muncipality". - Farquard 03:34, 20 August 2005 (UTC)


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Valencian Left

Valencian Left (Esquerra Valenciana) is a nationalist Valencian leftist party founded in the Valencian Community, founded in April, 1998 a group of ex-members of Unitat del Poble Valencià (Valencian People's Union) formed left this party and went to form a new political group using the vacant name of the historical Esquerra Valenciana. EV's current president is Robert Mora.

History
The dissidentgroup of members of Unitat del Poble Valencià who disagreed with UPV refounding itself as the Bloc Nacionalista Valencià (Valencian Nationalist Group) (BNV) and went to form their own political party under the EV acronym. The party defined itself as a party "of the National, Republican Left of the Valencian Country; that fights for political sovereignty and defends the free confederation of this territory with Catalonia and the Balearic Islands".

In 2001 unsuccessful attempts were made towards a merger or alliance with Esquerra Republicana del País Valencià (Republican Left of the Valencian Country, ERPV). The agreement granted to the members of Esquerra Valenciana (EV) a chair in the executive committee of ERPV for each 12 members who joined her. Later the new alliance would have stood under the designation EV-ERPV. EV took part in the 2003 Valencian Community elections as part of l'Entesa electoral coalition, together with Esquerra Unida and the Green Party of the Land of Valencia. Although l'Entesa obtained 6 deputies not one of them was a member of EV. In the European elections of 2004 they were part of the Europa dels Pobles (Europe of the People) list together with ERC, Aralar and Chunta Aragonesista (other regional parties of the Spanish state).

Esquerra Valenciana joined the Bloc in 2007, and remained inactive until it allied in 2014 with Estat Valencià (Valencian State), another souveranist faction of the Bloc, to form a left-wing independence pole. Esquerra Valenciana, however, left Compromís in December 2016 and associated itself with ERPV a year later, during the October 2017 Aplec del Puig.

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Nga Iwi Morehu Movement

The Nga Iwi Morehu Movement was a New Zealand Māori political party. Its name literally translates as "the surviving people" or "the remnant people". It contested the 1996 election as an unregistered party, running a single candidate and gaining 194 votes. It ran two candidates in the 2002 election, winning 522 votes. In the 1999 election, members of Nga Iwi Morehu stood under the banner of the Freedom Movement.

In September 2011 it applied to register its logo, which is a five-point star, with the Electoral Commission. The application was declined on the grounds that, in the opinion of the Electoral Commission, the logo could mislead voters into believing that the party was backed by the Rātana Church.

The party stood two electorate candidates in the 2011 election under the label "Nga Iwi" — Te Ariki Karamaene in Hauraki-Waikato and Jennifer Waitai-Rapana in Te Tai Hauāuru. It did not stand any candidates at the 2014 election.

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1922 Pulitzer Prize

The following are the Pulitzer Prizes for 1922.

Journalism awards

 * Public Service:
 * New York World, for articles exposing the operations of the Ku Klux Klan, published during September and October, 1921.
 * Reporting:
 * Kirke L. Simpson of the Associated Press, for articles on the burial of the Unknown Soldier.
 * Editorial Writing:
 * Frank M. O'Brien of the New York Herald, for an editorial entitled, "The Unknown Soldier".
 * Editorial Cartooning:
 * Rollin Kirby of the New York World, for "On the Road to Moscow".

Letters and Drama Awards

 * Novel:
 * Alice Adams by Booth Tarkington (Doubleday)
 * Drama:
 * Anna Christie by Eugene O'Neill
 * History:
 * The Founding of New England by James Truslow Adams (Little)
 * Biography or Autobiography:
 * A Daughter of the Middle Border by Hamlin Garland (Macmillan)
 * Poetry:
 * Collected Poems by Edwin Arlington Robinson (Macmillan)

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Talk:Rory Gallagher

What are the BPI numbers next to album names in Discography?
I noticed that there are numbers next to the name of each album in the discography section. I assume these are sales figures (??) but if so where are they sourced? I think those numbers are confusing and as it is now I don't see a source. Unless someone can explain I think they should be removed and will do so if no one replies here. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 12:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

A heavy drinker
The information that Gallagher was "a heavy drinker for most of his adult life" is overly specific for the lede (please see WP:OPENPARA and WP:LEADPARAGRAPH concerning specificity and neutral point of view), and has nothing to do with his notability. If we wish to retain this information, it might be added, with the proper citation, in a section below. But if so, please be aware of the heavy implication behind that phrasing that Gallagher's drinking caused his death, which is a medical judgment and should be made by a medical doctor. Also keep in mind that such a determination would contradict what another cited source (Quigley, Maeve) in this article claims.

I did not make the initial deletion of this information. But I fully agree with 90.208.193.35 that it should be deleted. Mark Froelich (talk) 07:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

External links modified
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Removal of equipment section
's recent edit removed the equipment listing. While there is one questionable promotional item there (the Patrick Eggle guitar that no-one had heard of, which has actually escaped that cull and lives on in the "Legacy" section), a listing of equipment used by an influential guitarist is of interest. His Stratocaster in particular is notable, as it was closely associated with him, the picture in the earlier version of this article showing that he is represented in Temple Bar by a sculpture of the guitar demonstrates this, as do album covers that featured the stratocaster. His use of the Vox AC30 was influential on Brian May, referred to in passing elsewhere in the article. The removed text inevitably mentioned brands, as electric guitar sounds and style are quite closely connected to the equipment used, more so in Rory's era than today, and was not particularly promotional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imalone (talk • contribs) 17:04, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Guitars - revisited
This has been discussed previously before. Where several editors have raised the concern about the amount of weight given to specific products that Gallagher had or used. I share this concern. And so am raising this again. For others to contribute their thoughts. Before we consider what (if anything) to do about it. For myself, I am concerned that: The reader is given no context for why this is event remotely relevant. Perhaps this is because it isn't. For myself, and unless there are other thoughts, for WP:VER and WP:UNDUE reasons alone, I think these sections need serious review. To remove all the uncited trivialities. And to summarise or contextualise the jargon and product name-dropping. Guliolopez (talk) 14:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The "guitars and equipment" sections (~1400 words) are the same size as the "life and career" sections (also ~1400 words), and twice the size as the "death and legacy" sections (~700 words). This is more than one-third of the entire article. And, to my mind, is undue weight to something which is only tangentially related to the primary topic. The musician.
 * The "guitars and equipment" section is, even if we ignore the above, full of uncited and irrelevant details and editorial. For example, how or why is it even remotely relevant (even if it were cited) that some paint came off his guitar? What possible relevance does this have to the life of the musician? It is trivial in the extreme. (To the extent that, to my read, it significantly detracts from the subject).
 * The "guitars and equipment" section is, to my read, overly concerned with minutiae and jargon. To the extent (as above) that it makes it inaccessible to a significant chunk of the audience - without additional context. For example, even if the section were in any way supported by references (which it is not), why should the reader care about "Ampeg VT40 and VT22 amplifiers"?
 * I don't think the argument about length is very convincing. If anything, it's an argument that more needs to be written about his life not that we should delete content just because one section is larger than another. Also, in the case of Gallagher his one guitar (the one on Against the Grain) is so closely associated with him that I think that justifies more detail on guitar minutia than would be normal for a rock star. Also, in one documentary (Irish Tour) he talks at length about different kinds of slide guitars, different kinds of slides, etc. He was clearly very into his instruments and the details about how to play them and what made one guitar different from another. Also, from what little I know about guitars my understanding is that Gallagher was fairly unique in not using a lot of special accessories but getting similar effects by doing things like bending the strings. I think that's relevant info about his style of music (and how he eschewed the usual flashy rock star stuff and stuck more to authentic blues). Again, for me this is an argument to change the section on guitars (i.e., include some context) rather than just deleting it. However, your argument about info not being sourced is convincing. If there really is content that is not well referenced or not referenced at all then it should be deleted, perhaps marked first with a "needs citation" and then if no one steps up to reference the claims just delete them. I just took a quick look at the section and there do seem to be some citations, but also other claims that aren't referenced. Bottom line: my opinion is it's fine to remove content that is wp:OR but not just because the length of the content seems imbalanced compared to the rest of the article, or because some editors think it is too detailed. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 18:05, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thanks for chipping in. This is exactly the type of input/discussion I was hoping to generate. As you note, WP:UNDUE isn't the only issue. If it were, I wouldn't have opened the thread. I also don't disagree that the guitars and amps (and their relevance to a signature 'sound' or influence on other artists) should be discussed. They should. Just perhaps not to "one fret was replaced" levels of triviality. Especially when uncited or unexplained. Anyway, as suggested, I have removed some text (including the "some paint came off" text) which had been tagged as uncited since at least last year. And tagged other text (including the "amps he had" section) which has been uncited since at least last decade. I will attempt to find independent and reliable sources for the most relevant elements of these sections - and remove anything which is unnecessary and unsupported. Guliolopez (talk) 01:46, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. I have been pecking away at this for a while. The majority of the uncited trivialities on individual pieces of equipment have now been removed (eg: "some paint came off" / "a fret fell out" / "a piece was bent" / etc). The most problematic uncited and quasipromotional text has been addressed (eg: "Brian May of Queen bought [ProductX] on Gallagher's say so" - despite the refs not supporting this claim). And the unattributed POV and OR has been tempered (eg: "an example of his use of [ProductY] can be found on [AlbumA]"). To my read the OR, VER, PROMO and UNDUE issues are no largely addressed. Unless there are other thoughts I am happy to close this topic and thread. Guliolopez (talk) 13:54, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your diligence. I noticed what might be a little edit warring going on in the last 24 hours, it looks like you’ve already achieved consensus but if not I wanted to chime in that I agree with you on removing the excess detail added by an IP user on Gallagher’s acoustic guitars. Also, one of the references theIP user used was essentially an ad for a Gallagher branded guitar so IMO not an acceptable reference. There was a reference that I liked though, an interview with Gallagher, and if I’m reading the edit history correctly you’ve managed to keep that. One of the sad things about Gallagher is in spite of his amazing talent he never got the notoriety of most rock stars and there aren’t that many good references for him. Just one bio and his web site and a few articles so that interview is a good one to keep if we can and I think you did a good job of taking what the IP user did and reworking it appropriately. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 09:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Rory's Wealth
There is no information - anywhere - on Rory's accumulated wealth. Does anyone have any idea of the value of his estate? Mike Galvin (talk) 13:20, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * User above is a sock puppet or troll. Boeing720 (talk) 23:24, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Neither; and I don't know why you would infer that from the question. I ask it because, unlike most performers, there seems to be a wall of secrecy surrounding his finances. Unusually, Google offers nothing. I thought that odd. Decaf? Hanoi Road (talk) 23:02, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
 * There is nothing in the article about Gallagher's wealth or net worth because as far as I'm aware there is no documentation about what it was. That's not surprising. For one thing we know he wasn't extremely wealthy the way a lot of rock stars are because he almost went out of his way to not be famous. He refused to let songs be edited so they could be released as singles, he passed up a chance to join the Rolling Stones, and he took what might have been his most popular and accessible album and refused to let it be released at the last minute. He lived a very unassuming and private life. Especially toward the end of his life. He had problems with his house (which seemed rather nice but not like a mansion from what little I've been able to read) that were never fixed because he couldn't stand to have strangers in his home to fix them. Anyway, the bottom line is there are no (at least to my knowledge) reliable sources on what his net worth was so there is nothing we can say about it in a Wikipedia article. If someone knows of a good source please list it. I'm a major fan both of his music and the kind of person I think he was so I'll read anything I can find about Gallagher and though I think how much money he had was one of the least interesting things about him (just a personal opinion) I agree it would be relevant to the article and I would gladly add it if there were good sources on it. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 14:18, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for those points. Given that he sold 30 Million albums worldwide in the pre-internet era (which has rendered recorded music almost worthless due to bootlegging), we can probably assume a fair degree of wealth. Jagger was recently quoted as saying that recordings nowadays pay little, and that the financial pillar for most musicians is live performing. Given Gallagher's incessant touring over a 20+ year period, often to large-ish audiences (particularly on the continent), it's likely he was quite well off. He bought an apartment in a smart part of London, which cannot have been cheap, and though his lifestyle was generally humble, it's probable that he enjoyed a high net worth. Good luck with Google on this matter. There is literally nothing on the subject, which is surely a little unusual. Hanoi Road (talk) 20:02, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

 * I think the drugs prescribed to cope with his fear of flying and general anxiety were likely Benzos of some sort, probably Diazepam. I agree that in concert with alcohol, this was not a good combination, but I have never heard of anyone doing irreparable damage to their bodies by combining both things. Valium simply doesn't do that sort of damage, even when routinely taken with alcohol. Hanoi Road (talk) 00:29, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

The drug prescribed was probably Diazepam. Aside from alleviating general anxiety, it's frequently prescribed to assist with alcohol withdrawal symptoms. I have not once heard of a case where Diazepam and alcohol in combination lead to death. To achieve this, the doses of both would need to be massive (ie: 50mg+ of Diazepam a day plus a bottle or two of bourbon). And it's the Bourbon that would do the real damage. Hanoi Road (talk) 23:47, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Sedative drug (?)
Article doesn't sate what sedative drug Gallagher was prescribed. But various Benzodiazepines has been the most common type of sedative drugs. Such medicines should not be taken together with alcohol, but I strongly doubt they affect the liver. Daily heavy drinking after the age of (approx) 35 does. With or without a sedative drug of benzodiazepine type. Also, a lot of alcohol combined with such sedatives can cause an overdose. But that seems not to have been the case here (13 weeks at a hospital). So I really don't believe the sedative drug mattered much, whatever his brother honestly believes. It was indeed very sad, and Rory was perhaps the best guitarist the world ever has seen. I would though suggest a reformulation regarding the reasons for his premature death. Something like "according to his brother..." (unless we have a more scientific source that supports what his brother have stated) Boeing720 (talk) 23:21, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * According to the book Rory Gallagher: His Life and Times by Marcus Connaughton the drug was paracetamol (see beginning of chapter 26 I'll Admit Your Gone, I've got an eBook and there are no page numbers). My understanding is that there is not much debate that it was a combination of the drug and Rory's drinking that killed him and that the doctor was probably negligent in not understanding how much Rory drank when he prescribed the drug. But it wasn't a case of Rory abusing the drug, he was fairly rare for rockers of his time in not doing any drugs except alcohol. I think the drug was prescribed because Rory had a severe fear of flying which got worse as he got older and he needed something to enable him to fly and tour. I think the drug was fairly new at the time and the potential for liver damage weren't yet understood and that the things it's prescribed for now and the dosage are quite different due to experiences such as Gallagher's. But I'm going from memory on that. When I get a chance I'll check the book in more detail and add or change that section if needed. As far as I know that book is the only book devoted to Gallagher's life but it's a pretty reliable source --MadScientistX11 (talk) 00:02, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I've looked at the book about Gallagher that I have and I've checked the reference in the section on his death and I think Boeing720 made a good catch: what's currently in the article doesn't reflect what is in the reference nor with what is in my book. Both of the references say that he was prescribed paracetamol which is for pain not anxiety. He was prescribed it for pain in his abdomen, not for the anxiety he felt about flying. It's not clear if he was prescribed other drugs to help him cope with his fear of flying, although I think he was. There is also another book that's not about Gallagher but rather about him and 2-3 other guitar players like Rick Derringer. It is referenced in the current source so I would like to see what it says. I know my library has the book so I want to get that book and check it before I edit the article. Although, we'll see how long it will take to get it, it should be quick but if it will be a while I might just change it now anyway and then revise if needed based on the other book. In any case I want to wait and see what others think as well. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 02:37, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Paracetamol is usually not prescribed but it is certainly not good for the liver in the long run. I doubt it would help much against flying anxiety. Anyways, I read the web-source written by his brother, and still think that part could be rephrased as I suggested. "According to his brother..." etc. I don't think that would change his historical guitar-hero status at all. This is only a matter of how to use and present sources. There is a slight difference between "the whole truth, nothing but the truth etc" and what relatives and friends might put in writing. Generally. Boeing720 (talk) 07:53, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree but I would phrase it a bit differently. What matters is that we are as accurate as possible and that we reflect the best evidence in the sources. I agree we have to consider that his brother clearly has a bias but his brother was also his manager and from the various things I've read Donal has always seemed to be a pretty reliable source. He doesn't seem to sugar coat what he says about Gallagher, he often talks about how Gallagher would make his life difficult due to his almost fanatical concerns about his music and his reluctance to do the things that most rock stars do to cater to a larger audience. The main issue I see is that the article as written seems wrong right now. Gallagher died from liver failure but what seems to be the cause were not the drugs he was prescribed (if any, that's the part I'm still not clear on) for fear of flying but the  paracetamol he was prescribed because he was having severe abdominal pains. In hindsight it seems those pains were caused by liver damage and the  paracetamol combined with his continued drinking made the problem exponentially worse to the point where he needed a liver transplant and then what actually killed him were complications (an infection) from the transplant. I'm going to paste the relevant quote from the biography I have in a new section below just so everyone can see what that reference says. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 16:44, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

When used according to instructions paracetamol does not result in liver damage, not even if used chronically. An overdose causing liver damage requires ingestion of 15 to 20 500 mg tablets at once (where 2 tablets is the normal dose) for an adult with a healthy liver. The toxic effects on the liver are not caused directly by paracetamol, but by a toxic breakdown product that accumulates in case the 'normal' routes get overloaded. All these processes take place in functioning liver cells, which means that if the liver was already damaged (which means fewer functioning liver cells) all breakdown routes would have slowed down, which means that in case of normal use there would be no reason to assume that the toxic degradation product would accumulate and exaggerate the liver damage already present — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.166.44 (talk) 01:37, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, in spite of what I said about Donal I agree that it would be good to make it clear that most of this comes from him, perhaps include one of the quotes from him and I don't plan to emphasize that Gallagher was killed by the incompetence of his doctor as the article that is the current reference claims. I agree that is quite possibly Donal trying to rationalize and lay blame for his death and unless we had other references besides Donal it shouldn't be in the article. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 17:04, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, MadScientiustX. I actually think that section is well balanced. Despite my talk-side speculations on the medication (=which medicine or medicines and their common usage etc), I didn't suggest to put that in the article, more than already is. A reason for mention Donal, is mostly the involved doctor. Donel might think he treated Gary badly. Perhaps he did, but I doubt Donel had all the pieces of the puzzle so to speak. I feel we well can quote Donel, but still avoid to make the possible bad treatment to be an absolute certainty. And this is simply made by making it clear that it's Donel Gallagher's thoughts, rather than an undisputed truth. Don't think that will harm either of the brothers. Cheers ! Boeing720 (talk) 05:42, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Boeing720 I think we agree. BTW, when I wrote that comment about Donal it was before I had read what was the only reference (before my recent edit) where Donal really blames the doctor. I definitely see your point on that, it's quite possible that Donal was correct but it's also equally possible that Donal (quite understandably) was looking for someone to blame. I made an edit that I think reflects the references that I currently have. Those references (please correct if you think I'm wrong or am missing something... actually I am missing something which I'll comment on in a second) seem to say that Gallagher was on some prescription medication(s) to combat his fear of flying but in my reading of the refs I haven't found any specifics as to what those meds were. The one specific drug I've seen mentioned is the paracetemol (which I think is more or less just Acetompiaphan) that Gallagher was prescribed for abdominal pain (which was caused by his failing liver although the doctor at the time didn't know that). I think it's quite likely that the liver problems were a combination of the drugs prescribed for flying anxiety and his drinking but without a reference that says that I'm not going to explicitly say that. I actually changed the text very little, as you said once I carefully looked at it and compared to the refs I also thought it was pretty balanced and correct, except for the part where it claimed he was prescribed a sedative for fear of flying, which again is quite possible but I can't find it in any reference. I now have the book which was used by that magazine article (the one with the sensational headline that said something like Gallagher was killed by medical malpractice). That book is a bio book about 4 blues rock guitarists. Unfortunately, it doesn't have an index and is just structured mostly as a collection of interviews so I can't just jump to the relevant part. I'm very interested in Gallagher anyway so I'm going to read the complete section of that book that is about him and make any updates as needed depending on what it says but just wanted to comment here that it may take a while as it's not my main priority. Of course, please let me know if you disagree or have feedback. Cheers! --MadScientistX11 (talk) 21:22, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * MadScientistX11 - I have read now it and I think you have done well here. Splendid ! Boeing720 (talk) 01:37, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Not sure if it's relevant, but I interviewed him in 1983. Despite my 'Hanoi Road' handle, my real name is Mike Galvin, and the interview is quoted in Julian Vignobles recent-ish book. (Index, Chapter 12, Item 11). That evening (around 7pm, in Cork City) Rory was conspicuously drinking coffee as we spoke. He looked fit, well and healthy. Though I cannot say for certain (how could I, possibly?) I somehow gained the impression he was 'abstaining'; on the wagon. My guess is that the guy had a drink problem his entire life, but took a break now and then. I would also guess that when he resumed, he did so with typical energy. But to say he died of "complications resulting from a liver transplant" (the standard explanation) is the same as saying Joan of Arc died of passive smoking. Rory was an alcoholic, full stop. And though contra-indicated medication didn't help, booze would have put him in the ground, sooner or later. Hanoi Road (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * First I forgot to say thank you to Boeing720 for the compliment above, so a belated thank you, I really appreciate that kind of feedback. Second thanks Hanoi Road for the heads up on the Rory Gallagher book. If anyone else is interested here's a link to it on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JMSGK1B/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 I plan to read it. Regarding how Gallagher died though I disagree with the analogy to Jean D'Arc. A lot of people are alcoholics and don't die from it. As they get older they realize their bodies can't take it anymore or they get other illnesses and want to start taking better care of their body or their bodies can just soak up a lot of alcohol without doing terminal damage to their livers.  While I agree that the refs are unambiguous about Gallagher being an alcoholic I also think they are unambiguous about the cause of death. It wasn't just that he was an alcoholic it's that he was prescribed a high dosage of a drug that was strongly contra-indicated for even a light drinker let alone an alcoholic and that the drug and drinking combined are what did massive damage to his liver that wouldn't have happened to someone at his relatively young age just due to his drinking. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 14:51, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Excerpts about Gallagher's death from the Book Rory Gallagher his Life and Times by Marcus Connaughton
See the discussion in the section above about Gallagher's death. Here are the relevant sections I found in the Connaughton book about Gallagher's death. Sorry I can't include the page numbers, it's an eBook and one of the cheap ones that doesn't have conventional page numbers: "In January 1995, Rory’s ill health caused him to abandon a tour of the Netherlands halfway through. Donal again: ‘When he started having abdominal pains, which, with hindsight, was probably the first sign of his liver trouble, he was prescribed paracetamol, which, where a liver is damaged, can cause more damage. I wish more checks had been made at the time.’" "It was, in fact, only after his admission to King’s College Hospital in March that the full extent of Rory’s ill health became clear. Donal: ‘It was only then that he got the medical care he needed, the surgeon who performed the operation was staggered that such a young man needed a new liver. This liver damage was compounded by drink, though Rory was not the heavy drinker he was rumoured to be.’ But Rory did not recover and after nearly three months in intensive care, Rory is thought to have contracted a drug resistant infection. On 14 June 1995 Rory Gallagher died due to complications following his liver transplant." As I said above, I think this contradicts what is currently in the article. I'm going to get another book that talks about Gallagher in some depth and check it was well but I think I may just rewrite the current section anyway (or if someone else wants to do it, that's fine). But I thought it was worthwhile to first post what the reference says. Also, if you check the article that is used for the current reference I think it is also consistent with what this says and not what the current Wikipedia article says about his death. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 16:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Recent Edit Regarding Gallagher's Strat
Guliolopez just made an edit where he removed the statement that Gallagher's stratocaster was noteworthy saying in his edit comment: "In whose opinion is it [the strat] noteworthy? " There are countless references that Gallagher's strat was noteworthy. Some of the references are videos where various other guitar players talk about Gallagher and they all mention his "noteworthy" (although they usually use words like iconic) Stratocaster. Just in a quick search of the current refs I found this one that IMO strongly supports the claim that the strat was noteworthy: Ultimate Start Guitars: the guitars that rocked the world. I think this edit should be undone (although with appropriate refs added), anyone have a counter argument? --MadScientistX11 (talk) 17:25, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Me. I do.
 * The argument I would offer is broadly the same one discussed between myself and several other editors/anons in the various related threads above. And umpteen edit summaries/other exchanges. Since about 2015.
 * Namely that in an article about an artist, a full 25% of the content (despite attempts to avoid undue weight and editorial) still deals with something other than the subject. Namely his equipment. And the minutiae of it. Often in a way that is not in keeping with the guidelines on attributing opinions and avoiding OR or undue weight.
 * In this sense the recent edit of mine (which you highlight) is not a kneejerk edit without context or consideration to consensus or convention. (Although, frankly, I would be concerned to see unattributed opinion or editorial added to about any other article in my watchlist). Rather, it is in keeping with a longstanding pattern of consensus to avoid undue weight, unnecessary trivialities, unattributed opinions, blatantly misattributed opinions and quotes, and related promotion/exploitation/advertising.
 * Specifically, while many of the uncited and undue minutiae/trivialities in this area have been addressed ("a fret fell out" / "a piece was bent" / "one tuning peg differed from the others" / "the pickguard was changed [see photos for verification]" ), and almost all of the unattributed/misattributed/misrepresented opinions and quotes have been updated to better match the guidelines and sources ("May attributed his sound to [ product X Gallagher]" / "Gallagher experimented with [ product X product y]" ), and the frankly shameless promotion/exploitation at least partially addressed ("purchase my Gallagher-inspired amp/pedal/coin/tat" / " [company X] still produce high quality audio and guitar equipment " ), there still seems to be a tendency to forget ourselves and the guidelines in this area.
 * Anyway. If you are proposing a specific change, and have references in mind to support a specific person's opinion, then I'm happy to discuss the proposed change. But I will always argue against unattributed opinions, uncited commentary, synth of sources and other forms of OR being added. Anywhere. But especially here. To a section which has suffered badly from all of the above in the past. But has been largely resurrected through the efforts of various contributors.
 * Cheers. Guliolopez (talk) 00:04, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Guliolopez First, I apologize, I should have read your edit comment more carefully and continued the discussion you started above. I was pretty active in that discussion and I mostly agreed with you then and agree with you now. I'm not criticizing your previous edits just the most recent one. Even that edit I mostly agree with. You removed some statements that weren't backed up by any references. But the one thing I take issue with is removing the statement "Gallagher's Stratocaster is noteworthy for its appearance". I think there are plenty of references that back this up. In fact, I think saying something a bit stronger like that his Strat was iconic would be appropriate. There are several references that back this up. As I commented above, I'm currently reading a book about Gallagher. Once I finish that I plan to redo your edit and add something back in about his Strat being noteworthy or some such language, but of course with at least one good reference. I don't plan on doing that right away anyway but just wanted to let you know I plan to at some point unless you want to discuss it further. I suggest waiting until I make the edit and see how well you think the reference(s) supports it but am also fine with discussing further before hand if you want. Cheers. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 21:39, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thanks. If proposing to add something then, yes please, given the amount of effort put into the NPOV, PROMO and ATTRIBUTEPOV issues here to date, a note about the proposed change would be appreciated. Whatever the proposed update, please (as I'm sure you will) consider that terms like "iconic" or "renowned" or "notable" or similar are not factual statements. ("X is iconic.") They are opinion statements. If adding opinions, please do attribute them. ("Y describes X as 'iconic'.") As well as referencing them. Cheers. Guliolopez (talk) 23:24, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

maybe it's worth approaching this strat's "notability" by supporting it with some reference to the replica issued by fender, initially in a run of 47, for rory's age. just a thought. I'm also trying to figure out a suitably encyclopedic way to comment that brian 'so these kids...' may was born six months before rory.

duncanrmi (talk) 19:06, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree. Do you have any references for that? So far I haven't edited anything about the guitar because I haven't found any really strong references for it, although I know they exist, for example I'm sure in some video bios about Gallagher there must be several examples of people talking about "the" beat-up strat. It's one of those things that I think anyone who is familiar with Gallagher knows is true but finding good references isn't that easy, partly because Gallagher eschewed publicity so much and there isn't as much written about him as about many other rock stars. On being "encyclopedic" this is something that IMO some editors take a bit too far. Being encyclopedic doesn't mean it has to be dull writing. There's some great little articles written by psychologist and linguist Steven Pinker about how the things that are touted as being "correct English" are just conventions that some group of stuffy people have decided on. They aren't based on any solid science or deep truths about language and they change all the time. A while ago someone took out all the contractions in another article I wrote which I think was just ridiculous but I let it stand because there is a guideline (IMO completely wrong) that articles shouldn't use contractions... I mean should not use contractions ;-) --MadScientistX11 (talk) 17:44, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

"Rare Blood Type"
How "rare" can his blood type have been that his sweat acted as paint stripper? I've seen this nonsense written elsewhere and would question whether it has any medical basis. Hanoi Road (talk) 23:46, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

 * Indeed. While I guess we can state that "his brother said X" (if that is cited), the extrapolation of that claim (to the extent that the more hyperbolic terms are given credence) seems a bit much. Sweat is not paint stripper. It might age something a bit faster. Perhaps. But it's not gonna be sold in a DIY shop. I've toned it down a bit.... Guliolopez (talk) 15:09, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

I've commented on this on the fb page in the past & fallen foul of adherents to this legend of the acidic blood-type. after some research (OR, which is why it's staying here unless/until proof emerges), I came to the conclusion that the original s/b strat was shipped without the usual clear coat, by fender, who often did this when a dealer was going to supply a customer with a locally-applied custom colour. this is consistent with its original owner returning it to the shop & taking a red one in its place. a simple misunderstanding between the shop & fender's export department.... fender would supply guitars with dupont car paint applied over a base coat *if they had time*, but were also shipping sunbursts to be refinished by dealers when this wasn't possible due to high demand, such as there would have been in 1961.

duncanrmi (talk) 18:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Just came across this myth again, quoted verbatim from this here article. Did a quick fact check (Original Research) on it and found nothing to support the claim. What I found was that A: Not the blood type but bad nutrition can cause an acid imbalance and the body may exude an excess in the sweat, so acidic sweat seems real. But also B: The more a person sweats the lower the concentration of acids in the sweat will be, so Rory sweating a lot did not produce copious amounts of acidic sweat, just normal sweat. Yet there's C: The liver takes part in the metabolism of acids, seeing how he suffered from a failing liver he may have accumulated higher than normal amounts. But that's mere speculation on my part. The bottom line is, the only source for Gallagher's "acidic blood" is his brother at best relating hearsay. It's possible to debunk that myth. -2003:CA:3F1F:5E5B:A10B:E743:FEEE:5489 (talk) 20:11, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Autism
This is referred to in Julian Vignoble's book as likely. Donal agreed that "it's possible". Who would know better? If so, it explains an awful lot. Hanoi Road (talk) 00:42, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

 * Any medical praticioner examining him as a patient, or anybody having a full grasp of what autism is and in which ways it shows in an individual, that's who. "It's possible" should not be considered a hard enough evidence for inclusion. 2003:CA:3F1F:5E5B:A10B:E743:FEEE:5489 (talk) 20:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Jimi Hendrix quote
I have doubts about a quote used in this article, allegedly from Jimi Hendrix:

"...when Jimi Hendrix was asked how it felt to be the world's greatest guitarist, he is reported to have said: ‘I don't know, go ask Rory Gallagher’"

While it is sourced by an unscientific BBC blurb, giving it the sheen of credibility, there is no mention who reported this quote, to whom it was said, or where it was recorded. Furthermore, this quote has been around as an urban legend for at least two decades, and as Snopes wrote in 2000, it was originally applied to Phil Keaggy and many others, including Eric Clapton and Billy Gibbons. A recent challenge to this quote was reverted by with the claim that anything written by the BBC is credible. Can anyone find a more concrete source for this quote? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:37AA:4950:BD01:FF43:8280:A61 (talk) 21:03, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * If Hendrix ever said this about any guitarist, I've never seen a credible source to verify exactly who he was talking about. As the IP says, the quote has been around for many years, with umpteen different guitarists as the subject. Shame on the BBC for perpetuating what is very likely a myth. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

 * Hi. In terms of:
 * "Recent challenge to the quote was reverted by Guliolopez". As per the related edit summary, my main concern with the recent changes were they related to the formatting of the quote. An editor could not reasonably address the tag by "cleaning up" the language of the text (to make parts of it clearer/better). Because to do so would require a change to the quoted text. Other than [sic] tags, quoted text is not typically subject to "cleanup" tags. As any cleanup/correction/improvement would be problematic per MOS:PMC. And the issue is (granted perhaps not perfectly) somewhat addressed by attributing the claim/text to the BBC source. As expected by MOS:QUOTEPOV. ("According to a BBC article, [blah blah / take it or leave it / blah blah]".)
 * "[Guliolopez claimed] that anything written by the BBC is credible". I verifiably made no such claim. As per the related edit summary, all I said was that WP:RSPSOURCES identifies the BBC as one which is typically considered a reliable source. I assigned no infallibility to the source/publisher.
 * "Very likely a myth". Fine. While, personally, I wouldn't remove the quote, it might be worth finding adding other reliable refs to support an addition/change. To something like "According to a BBC article, [blah blah]. Other sources question this as urban myth.  ".
 * Cheers. Guliolopez (talk) 10:57, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the input. If this quote had been circulated as solely from Hendrix and solely about Gallagher, I'd say keep and search for sources. However, the persons involved in it have varied so much and there's not a single drop of hard evidence supporting it. Will remove. 2600:1700:37AA:4950:6017:F54D:5664:C08F (talk) 23:12, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Death
Nowhere is alcohol abuse mentioned as a direct causal factor in his death. "Fear of flying"..."psoriasis"...."asthma" I understand it's a delicate subject, but his terminal liver damage was not caused by paracetamol alone. If it were, half the planet would be getting liver transplants. It needs to be included. It's hardly a state secret. 109.154.51.233 (talk) 15:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

 * The tricky part is finding an authoritative source on this. I think it should be a medical source, though, meaning the opinion of a doctor. Not anecdotes from friends or documentaries. If you can find one and reference it, by all means, put it in. Mark Froelich (talk) 23:12, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Better Picture?
The picture used is somewhat Meh. There are far better out there, particularly early on in his career. Anyone else think so? 86.132.172.150 (talk) 20:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Hi. What do you mean by "out there"? Except in exceptional circumstances, all images used on Wikipedia/Wikimedia need to be Commons-eligible. The images in Commons:Category:Rory Gallagher are Commons-eligible. Others "out there [elsewhere on the internet]" may not be. Guliolopez (talk) 20:52, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Rory Gallagher.2.jpg seems to capture his magic a little better. I'll leave it up to you. 86.132.172.150 (talk) 23:12, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 (talk) 03:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

XMLambda
A proposal that, as far as I can tell, was not implemented and was not developed further.
 * Weak delete. Gazpacho 02:19, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Hamster Sandwich 02:59, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with XML and redirect . The XML article does briefly touch on the view of an XML element as a form of S-expression, and XMLambda was a modest move, employing functional programming concepts, to define a superset of XML for producing active documents (ie executable programs).  The XML article thus already provides the perfect context for this item. --Tony Sidaway Talk  13:02, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Changed vote. Delete. XMLambda is adequately covered in XML transformation language (or will be when I add the homepage reference). --Tony Sidaway Talk  14:23, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, replace with redir. Radiant_ >|< 09:21, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Original research, too little information, and not notable. Link to only reference is a draft paper from 1999. Dmeranda 04:03, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:Andy Dick

Discography / Collaborations edit
Under the "Discography" section under the section "Collaborations" I'm requesting to please add:

• Gene Wilder’s Vacation - “I’m Not Better Than Anyone” (2021)

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• Gene Wilder’s Vacation - “My Best Friend” (2023)

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Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2024
grammar: change "he would go onto" to "he would go on to" 2601:1C0:5E81:BB0:4934:457F:5A61:25F7 (talk) 19:19, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ RudolfRed (talk) 19:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Lede
Shouldn’t the stuff about his sexual misconduct be placed higher up in the article? I feel like given how extensive his history of being a general menace to society is, it should be more prominently placed Editmakerer (talk) 15:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Grammatical issues with page
This page has quite a few errors, particularly in the Legal Issues and Controversies section. For example: 'In January 2011, Dick was ejected form the AVN Awards' should be 'ejected from'; '[...] made antisemitic statements about Howard Stern, calling Stern was a "money-grubbing Jew" [...]' shouldn't have the word 'was'; '[...] escorted off the set of the film Vampire Dad due to as "multiple, flagrant acts of improper conduct [...]' doesn't need the word 'as'. As the page is now protected from editing, these can't easily be fixed, but perhaps the page would benefit from a proofread to ensure that it reads correctly? Whynotlolol (talk) 11:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing this out I've corrected the three errors you mentioned. If you would like to proofread the rest of the article and mention any other problems, please do. Otherwise I may have a look at it sometime.

 * You were actually lucky that I saw your message; if I hadn't been checking it's perfectly possible that nobody would have seen it. For future reference, in this situation put the following above your message: . That will cause the page to be included in a list of pages with requests for edits, so that sooner or later an editor who checks that list will find their way here. JBW (talk) 12:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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Rommel Pacheco

Rommel Agmed Pacheco Marrufo (born 12 July 1986) is a Mexican diver. He was the gold medalist in the 10-meter platform at the 2003 Pan American Games. In the 2004 Summer Olympics he finished in 10th place in the 10-meter platform and 3-meter springboard. In the 2008 Summer Olympics he finished in 8th place in the 10-meter platform.

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 * Acadian French, a French dialect
 * Acadian flycatcher, a small insect-eating bird
 * Acadian orogeny, a middle Paleozoic deformation in geology
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