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The Belle of Mayfair
Thanks for the links. I created a bunch of new stubs and expanded a bunch of old British musicals today and have to stop now. Any chance you could put something up for Edna May? She seems to be a really big actress of the time. Regards, --Ssilvers 18:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, will do. However, it can not be today as I have to finish for tonight.  I will do something in the next day or two.  Thanks for all your work on the late Victorian and Edwardian British musical! PaulJones 18:55, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * curiosity got the better of me. PaulJones 19:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Well, I thought I was working on WP:G&S, but one think led to another, and I've put up stubs or expanded several dozen British musicals, plus done articles on composers, writers, and performers.  Help!  I'm addicted to Wikipedia.  --Ssilvers 22:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Expanded articles
I did a major expansion on Malcolm Sargent and Seymour Hicks. If you have time, see what you think. I'm sure they could use more wikifiying, correction of all my errors ;-)  etc.  Best regards,  --Ssilvers 20:36, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll give them a look. They certainly look comprehensive... PaulJones 21:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * THanks! Also Ellaline Terriss, Hicks' wife -- new entry. -- Ssilvers 23:43, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

A southern maid
Adrian Ross had nothing to do with the musical "A Southern Maid" from 1920 at Daly's (5 years after George Edwardes death, so Edwardes had nothing to do with it either.) It was first produced earlier in 1917 at Princes Theatre.

What confused the writer of the Ross article at the Boisestate site, I think was that there was a 1933 film of the same name that had a costume designer named Adrian Ross. See and. Best regards, --Ssilvers 04:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I concede regarding the 1917 date. I am not so sure about stating that Adrian Ross had nothing to do with it though.  See [] and []. It may be that the Ross contribution was added in the 1920 production. PaulJones 09:33, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I just spent a considerable amount of time looking around, and I am becoming more convinced that Ross did provide some lyrics. For some reason, the film credits him as a costume designer, but I am guessing that is a mistake. See my newest changes to the entry. -- Ssilvers 14:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that we are slowly getting there! The Internet Movie Database gives Norman Hartnell as costume designer in the film version.  There is certainly an interesting mix of people involved in that film. PaulJones 18:35, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Russell, Evett
I added info to Scott Russell and standardised the format with the other DOC biographies. Evett was also an ex-D'Oyly Carter. If you look at the stub, I added a link. Do you want to take a crack at expanding him? Best regards, --Ssilvers 15:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the link. Yes, I will do. I was planning to anyway at some point.  Regards, PaulJones 17:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

W. S. Gilbert FA candidate
Hey, Paul: The W. S. Gilbert article has received a lot of work in the past month (and we responded to two peer reviews), and it has been nominated as a Featured Article. If you can get to it, please review it and then weigh in on the nomination at Featured article candidates/W. S. Gilbert, or else let us know if you have any further comments or suggestions about the article. Regards, -- Ssilvers 02:05, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I left some comments on your talk page.  Hopefully they are helpful. PaulJones 21:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind, but I took the liberty of fixing the problems when I was going to Sam's page to talk to him about another subject. The Kendals (not Kendalls) were Tom Robertson's sister and her husband, but my reference source of choice indicated that another person was actually responsible for managing the theatre, so I just deleted the phrase. Adam Cuerden talk 22:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for these excellent comments. The Kendals starred in all these Fairy comedies, but I agree that it was not necessary to name them here.  If you're satisfied with the article now, please go ahead and weigh in here  -- Ssilvers 02:54, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I am and I have. A great article. Well done to all involved. PaulJones 08:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

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Sargent's article has been considerably expanded. Please take another look when you have time. Can you add an image to it? I'm afraid that both Tim and I don't know how to do that. --Best regards, Ssilvers 17:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Sorry, but I don't know how to add images either. However, I see that someone has already done so.  Has it really been so long since I last logged on to Wikipedia? PaulJones 18:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Tim knows how to do certain things, and I knew how to do other things, and between us, we fixed up the article. It's pretty nifty now, wouldn't you say? Thanks for your excellent edits. -- Ssilvers 19:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

 * It certainly is comprehensive! PaulJones 20:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

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Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk)
 * Is this his ballet?
 * Is this the same guy: Born in Napoli on the 23th Jenuary 1847, died in Asnières (Parigi) on the 21 August 1923? Operas: Le Chevalier Mignon, 1884 in Parigi; and L'Élève du Conservatoire, in Parigi in 1894?

 * That I have not been able to confirm. There can't be too many composers called Leopold de Wenzel working in that period, but when I came across those references I was not able to link the productions to the composer at the Empire, so I did not include in the information. PaulJones (talk) 18:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Would you kindly add the references that you did find to the article? Right now it is entirely unreferenced. Thanks! Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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What language is Baron Golosh in, if you know? I've been cleaning up Category:Operettas by giving all the entries subcategories of their own, by language. Baron Galosh is the only one left, because I can't tell what language it's in. Softlavender (talk) 07:53, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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Adrian Ross

Arthur Reed Ropes (23 December 1859 – 11 September 1933), better known under the pseudonym Adrian Ross, was a prolific writer of lyrics, contributing songs to more than sixty British musical comedies in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. He was the most important lyricist of the British stage during a career that spanned five decades. At a time when few shows had long runs, nineteen of his West End shows ran for over 400 performances.

Starting out in the late 1880s, Ross wrote the lyrics for the earliest British musical theatre hits, including In Town (1892), The Shop Girl (1894) and The Circus Girl (1896). Ross next wrote the lyrics for a string of hit musicals, beginning with A Greek Slave (1898), San Toy (1899), The Messenger Boy (1900) and The Toreador (1901) and continuing without a break through World War I. He also wrote the English lyrics for a series of hit adaptations of European operettas beginning with The Merry Widow in 1907.

During World War I, Ross was one of the founders of the Performing Rights Society. He continued writing until 1930, producing several more successes after the war. He also wrote the popular novel The Hole of the Pit and a number of short stories.

Life and career
Ross was born in Lewisham, London. He was the youngest son and fourth child of Ellen Harriet Ropes née Hall, of Scarborough, and William Hooper Ropes, a Russia merchant. Ross's parents lived in Normandy, France, but sent him to school in London at Priory House School in Clapton, Mill Hill School, and the City of London School. He later attended King's College, Cambridge, where, in 1881, he won the Chancellor's Medal for English verse for his poem "Temple Bar", and also won the Members' Prize for the English essay. In 1883 he graduated with a first-class degree, winning the Lightfoot scholarship for history and a Whewell scholarship for international law. He was elected a fellow of the College.

He was a Cambridge University graduate and don, teaching history and poetry from 1884 to 1890 and writing serious and comic verse of his own, the first volume of which was published in 1884. In 1889, he published "A Sketch of the History of Europe". He was also a translator of French and German literature under his own name. He created the fictitious name "Adrian Ross" due to a concern that writing musicals would compromise his academic career.

Early career
During a brief illness in 1883 after catching cold at the University Boat Race, Ross used the lonely time in bed to write the libretto of an entertainment entitled A Double Event. This was produced at St. George's Hall, London in 1884 with music by Arthur Law, and Ross used the name "Arthur Reed". His next work for the stage, also as Arthur Reed, was the book and lyrics for a musical burlesque, Faddimir (1889 at the Opera Comique), with music by fellow Cambridge graduate, F. Osmond Carr.

The piece earned enough praise so that the impresario George Edwardes commissioned the two to write another burlesque, together with the comic actor John Lloyd Shine, called Joan of Arc. Songs from the piece included "I Went to Find Emin", "Round the Town", and "Jack the Dandy-O". Joan of Arc opened in 1891 at the Opera Comique starring Arthur Roberts and Marion Hood; he wrote under the pseudonym Adrian Ross, which he used for the rest of his career. The piece was a hit, lasting for almost eight hundred performances, and Ross resigned from Cambridge. To supplement his income from theatre writing, Ross became a contributor to such journals as Punch, Sketch, Sphere and The World, and he joined the staff of Ariel in 1891–1892. He wrote in The Tatler under the pseudonym Bran Pie and in 1893 published an edition of Lady Mary Wortley Montague's Letters. He also published numerous French texts for the Pitt Press series.

Ross and Carr's next work, in collaboration with James T. Tanner, was In Town (1892), a smart, contemporary tale of backstage and society goings-on. This left behind the earlier Gaiety burlesques and helped set the new fashion for the series of modern-dress Gaiety Theatre shows that quickly spread to other theatres and dominated British musical theatre. For his next piece, Morocco Bound (1893, with the song "Marguerite from Monte Carlo"), Ross concentrated on writing lyrics, leaving the "book" mostly to Arthur Branscombe. This proved to be his most successful model through most of his career. The position of "lyricist" was relatively new, as previously the writers of libretti would invariably write the lyrics themselves. As the new Edwardes-produced "musical comedies" took the place of burlesque, comic opera and operetta on the stage, Ross and Harry Greenbank established the usefulness of a separate lyricist.

Gaiety and Daly Theatre musicals
Ross contributed lyrics to almost all of the Gaiety Theatre's shows, beginning with The Shop Girl (1894, with his song "Brown of Colorado") and Go-Bang in 1895. He wrote over two thousand lyrics and produced lyrics for over sixty musicals thereafter, including most of the hit musicals through World War I. In 1896, he contributed to the Gaiety Theatre hit, The Circus Girl. He also wrote lyrics for the one-act comic opera, Weather or No (1896), which played as a companion piece to The Mikado at the Savoy Theatre, as well as several other Savoy operas, such as Mirette (1894), His Majesty, or The Court of Vignolia (1897), The Grand Duchess of Gerolstein (1897) and The Lucky Star (1899).

Ross also wrote lyrics for the shows at Daly's Theatre. His lyrics to additional numbers for An Artist's Model (1895) and The Geisha (1896) were successful enough so that Edwardes asked him for major contributions to the rest, beginning with A Greek Slave (1898), especially after the death of the theatre's early chief lyricist, Harry Greenbank. These included a series of enormous successes, including San Toy (1899), The Messenger Boy (1900), Kitty Grey (1901), The Toreador (1901), A Country Girl (1902), The Girl from Kays (1903), The Orchid (1903), The Cingalee (1904), The Spring Chicken (1905) and The Girls of Gottenberg (1907). In 1901, Ross married Ethel Wood, an actress, and the couple produced a son and two daughters. The family resided in Church Street, Kensington. Also in 1901, he collaborated with his sister Mary Emily Ropes on the children's story, On Peter's Island.

When Edwardes found success, beginning in 1907, in mounting English-language versions of the new generation of continental European operettas to the London stage, Ross wrote the English lyrics for the adaptations, often with libretti by Basil Hood. His words to the songs in The Merry Widow (1907) became the standard English version of that piece, performed throughout the world for many decades. Other Continental musicals that Ross anglicised included A Waltz Dream (1908), The Dollar Princess (1909), The Girl in the Train (1910), The Count of Luxembourg (1911), The Girl on the Film (1913) and The Marriage Market (1913), most of which had enduring success throughout the English-speaking world. Other successes from this period were the musicals King of Cadonia (1908), Havana (1908), Our Miss Gibbs (1909), The Quaker Girl (1911), and Betty in 1915. In addition, many of Ross's most successful pieces had additional successes on tour in Britain, in America and elsewhere. His biggest hits on Broadway included The Girl from Kays (1903), The Merry Widow (1907 and many revivals), Havana (1909), Madame Sherry (1911) and The Quaker Girl (1911).

Later career
In 1914, Ross was one of the founders of the Performing Rights Society. Ross continued, after Edwardes's death, to write lyrics for numerous shows at the Gaiety, Daly's, the Adelphi Theatre, and other London theatres. During World War I, he continued to produce hits, writing the lyrics for the musical adaptation of a French comedy, Theodore & Co (1916), the operetta Arlette (1917), the musical The Boy (1917), André Messager's adaptation of Booth Tarkington's Monsieur Beaucaire (1919, "Philomel") and contributed to A Southern Maid (1920). He also worked on the revues Three Cheers (1917) with Herman Darewski, Airs and Graces with Lionel Monckton, and, years later, Sky High for the Palladium Theatre, but these were only diversions from his chief focus of writing lyrics for musicals and operetta adaptations. In 1922, he wrote both the book and the lyrics for the popular English version of Das Dreimäderlhaus, the international hit based on Franz Schubert's music and life, produced in Britain as Lilac Time. In 1927, Ross and Dudley Glass, an Australian composer, collaborated on a musical based on The Beloved Vagabond by W. J. Locke. His last works were produced in 1930: the English adaptation of the operetta Friederike for the Palace Theatre, and a musical based on The Toymaker of Nuremberg by Austin Strong, which was produced as a Kingsway Theatre Christmas entertainment.

Ross collaborated extensively with the foremost British-based composers of musical theatre active during his productive period, including Carr, Ivan Caryll, Monckton, Leslie Stuart and Sidney Jones, and later Paul Rubens, Harold Fraser-Simson, Howard Talbot and Messager. Sixteen of his musicals ran for more than 400 performances. Ross tailored each song to fit the style required by the producer – songs for the Gaiety were different from those for Daly's. Many of his most popular shows, songs (both for the theatre and beyond it) and adaptations are still performed today.

Fiction and last years
Ross also wrote the popular horror novel The Hole of the Pit and a number of short stories. Set in 1645 during the English Civil War, the novel tells of a loathsome entity that inhabits a flooded pit amid the marshes surrounding a castle. The book is notable for its depth of characterisation – especially of the compassionate young narrator, a Puritan scholar who has refused to join Oliver Cromwell's army because of his objections to religious violence and who sees the good in everyone – and for its subtle depiction of the creature in the hole, which is never completely seen even as it overwhelms the castle. The novel was published in 1914 by Edward Arnold and never reprinted until Ramsey Campbell collected it in his 1992 anthology Uncanny Banquet. Brian Stableford called it "a minor classic of the genre". Ross also wrote Short History of Europe, edited Lady Mary Wortley-Montagu's Letters (Selection and Life), and was a contributor to Punch magazine.

Ross died of heart failure at his home in Kensington, London on 11 September 1933 at the age of 73.

List of stage works
Ross contributed lyrics to the following musicals and comic operas, often in collaboration with other lyricists:

 * Faddimir, or The Triumph of Orthodoxy (1889)
 * Joan of Arc (1891) (400+ performances in total)
 * Don Juan (1892, starring Roberts)
 * The Young Recruit (1892)
 * In Town (1892) (292 performances)
 * Morocco Bound (1893) (295 performances)
 * Go-Bang (1894) (129 performances)
 * The Shop Girl (1894) (546 performances)
 * Mirette revised English version (1894) (total of 102 performances in both versions)
 * Bobbo (1895)
 * Biarritz (1896) (71 performances)
 * My Girl (1896) (183 performances)
 * Weather or No (1896) (209 performances)
 * The Circus Girl (1896) (497 performances)
 * His Majesty, or The Court of Vignolia (1897) (61 performances)
 * The Ballet Girl (1897)
 * The Grand Duchess (1897) (104 performances)
 * The Transit of Venus (1898)
 * Billy (1898)
 * A Greek Slave (1898) (349 performances)
 * Milord Sir Smith (1898) (82 performances)
 * The Lucky Star (1899) (143 performances)
 * San Toy (1899) (768 performances)
 * The Messenger Boy (1900) (429 performances)
 * The Toreador (1901) (675 performances)
 * Kitty Grey (1901) (220 performances)
 * A Country Girl (1902) (729 performances)
 * The Girl from Kays (1903) (432 performances; 236 performances on Broadway)
 * The Orchid (1903) (559 performances)
 * The Cingalee (1904) (365 performances)
 * The Spring Chicken (1905) (401 performances)
 * The Little Cherub (1906) (114 performances)
 * Naughty Nero (1906)
 * The New Aladdin (1906) (203 performances)
 * See-See (1906) (152 performances).
 * Les Merveilleuses (1906) (196 performances)
 * The Girls of Gottenberg (1907) (303 performances)
 * The Merry Widow (1907) (778 performances; 416 performances on Broadway, and many revivals)
 * A Waltz Dream (1908) (146 performances)
 * Havana (1908) (221 performances; 231 performances on Broadway)
 * King of Cadonia (1908) (333 performances)
 * The Dollar Princess (1909) (428 performances)
 * The Antelope (1909)
 * Our Miss Gibbs (1909) (636 performances)
 * The Dashing Little Duke (1909) (101 performances)
 * The Arcadians (1910, 809 performances; Broadway production: 201 performances)
 * Captain Kidd (1910)
 * The Girl in the Train (1910) (340 performances)
 * The Quaker Girl (1911) (536 performances; 248 performances on Broadway)
 * Madame Sherry (1911: 231 performances on Broadway)
 * Castles in the Air (Frau Luna) (1911)
 * The Count of Luxembourg (1911) (240 performances)
 * Gipsy Love (1912) (299 performances)
 * The Wedding Morning (1912)
 * Tantalising Tommy (1912)
 * The Dancing Mistress (1912) (241 performances)
 * The Girl on the Film (Filmzauber) (1913) (232 performances)
 * The Marriage Market (Lednyedsdr) (1913)
 * The Girl from Utah (1913) (195 performances)
 * The Belle of Bond Street revised version of The Girl from Kays (1914)
 * Betty (1915) (391 performances)
 * The Light Blues (1915)
 * The Happy Day (1916) (241 performances)
 * Theodore & Co (1916) (503 performances)
 * Oh! Caesar (1916) (toured only)
 * The Happy Family (1916)
 * Arlette (1917)
 * The Boy (1917) (801 performances)
 * Three Cheers (1917) (revue)
 * Monsieur Beaucaire (1919) (400 performances)
 * The Kiss Call (1919)
 * Maggie (1919)
 * The Eclipse (1919)
 * Medorah (1920)
 * A Southern Maid (1920) (306 performances)
 * The Love Flower (1920)
 * The Naughty Princess (1920) (280 performances – at the Adelphi Theatre)
 * Faust on Toast (1921)
 * Love's Awakening (1921)
 * Lilac Time (1922) (626 performances)
 * The Cousin from Nowhere (1922; Der Vetter aus Dingsda, 1921, composed by Eduard Künneke) (105 performances)
 * Head Over Heels (1923)
 * The Beloved Vagabond (1927) (107 performances)
 * Frederica (Friederike) (1930) (music by Franz Lehár)
 * The Toymaker of Nuremberg (1930) (32 performances)

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Michael A. Goorjian

Michael A. Goorjian (born February 4, 1971) is an American actor, filmmaker, and writer. Goorjian won an Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or Special for his role as David Goodson in the television film David's Mother (1994). He is also known for his role as Justin, Neve Campbell’s love interest on the series Party of Five (1994–2000), as well as Heroin Bob in the film SLC Punk! (1998) and its sequel, Punk's Dead (2016). As a director, Goorjian achieved recognition for his first major independent film, Illusion (2004), which he wrote, directed and starred in alongside Kirk Douglas.

Acting
Goorjian was born and raised in the San Francisco Bay Area. His father, Peter, is Armenian, with his paternal grandparents being survivors of the Armenian genocide; his mother, Sarah, is of Scottish-American descent. Goorjian grew up in Oakland, California, and attended Bishop O'Dowd High School, which had a strong drama program. At the age of 14, he decided to audition for a local theatre company, thinking it was a ‘cool way’ to skip class; after successfully landing the lead role in a 'not-so-cool' play called Computer Crazy, Goorjian soon found out that the rest of the cast were all senior citizens and that he would have to perform the play at his own junior high school. Despite this seemingly rather humiliating experience, Goorjian stuck with acting, eventually training at UCLA’s School of Theatre, Film and Television.

Goorjian won an Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or Special for the TV movie David's Mother (starring Kirstie Alley). Ray Loynd commented that Goorjian contributed "a wealth of physical and emotional detail that underscores the familial havoc".

Goorjian’s first big Hollywood break came as a dancer when, in 1992, he was cast as ‘Skittery’ in the Disney film Newsies (starring Christian Bale and Robert Duvall). What followed were roles in numerous subsequent films, including Chaplin (with Robert Downey Jr.), Forever Young (with Mel Gibson), the Oscar-nominated Leaving Las Vegas, Hard Rain (with Morgan Freeman and Christian Slater), SLC Punk! (with Devon Sawa), The Invisibles (with Portia de Rossi), Broken (with Heather Graham) and Conversations with God.

Goorjian has also guest-starred in a number of television series, including Lie to Me, House, Alias, Monk, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Without A Trace, and Chicago Hope, as well as a recurring role on Life Goes On (as Ray Nelson). He also appeared in the 2005 TV film Reefer Madness, a satirical musical adaptation of the anti-marijuana propaganda film from the 1930s.

Theater
Goorjian is a founding member of the Los Angeles-based theater group Buffalo Nights, and starred in the West Coast-premiere of Dennis McIntyre’s drama Modigliani (which won him an L.A. Weekly Theater Award nomination for Best Lead Actor). He played the title roles in both productions of The Apollo of Bellac (by Jean Giraudoux) and J.B. (by Archibald MacLeish). Goorjian also won at the L.A. Critics’ Choice Awards and the Garland Backstage West Awards for his original choreography for the L.A. production of the musical Reefer Madness.

Director
Goorjian made his first real foray into directing with the mock-documentary Oakland Underground, a comedy about an underground occult music scene in Oakland, CA. From there, Goorjian made Illusion with Kirk Douglas, which was released theatrically in 2006 after racking up over a dozen festival awards, including Best Screenplay at The Hampton’s International Film Festival, Best Feature at the Lake Tahoe International Film Festival and The Audience Award at the Sonoma International Film Festival. With Illusion Goorjian was critically lauded for his ability to blend great filmmaking with philosophical depth. Soon after Illusion, Goorjian began collaborating with the publishing company Hay House to produce and direct a number of films including the documentary You Can Heal Your Life (2007), starring metaphysical author and teacher, Louise L. Hay and The Shift, starring author Dr. Wayne Dyer, along with Michael DeLuise and Portia de Rossi. His most recent work with Hay House is an original film anthology called Tales of Everyday Magic, which explores meaningful philosophical ideas through intimate character-driven stories.

Additional directing credits include the short film Players’ Club, which swept the 2006 Elevate Film Festival in Los Angeles, including Best Director and The War Prayer, an adaptation of Mark Twain’s short story by the same title starring Jeremy Sisto. Occasionally, Goorjian also moonlights directing a circus/cabaret show in Eastern Europe called Palazzo.

Writing
Goorjian debuted as a novelist with his work What Lies Beyond the Stars, the first book in an intended trilogy commissioned by Hay House Publishing. The second book in the series, Beyond the Fractured Sky, will be released in the fall of 2018.

Director

 * Blood Drips Heavily on Newsies Square (1991) (Short video)
 * Oakland Underground (1997)
 * Call Waiting (1998) (Short film)
 * Illusion (2004)
 * Players' Club (2006) (Short video)
 * The War Prayer (2007) (Short film)
 * You Can Heal Your Life (2007) (Documentary)
 * The Shift (2009) (Direct-to-DVD)
 * Entanglement (2012) (Television film)
 * The Magic Hand of Chance (2012)
 * Tales of Everyday Magic (2012)
 * Painting the Future (2012)
 * My Greatest Teacher (2012)
 * Amerikatsi (2022)

Writer

 * Oakland Underground (1997)
 * The Mesmerist (2002)
 * Illusion (2004)
 * Tales of Everyday Magic (2012)
 * My Greatest Teacher (2012)
 * Amerikatsi (2022)

Producer

 * Oakland Underground (1997)
 * The Invisibles (1999)
 * Part Time Fabulous (2011)
 * Amerikatsi (2022)

title: Michael A. Goorjian


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Non-covalent interaction

In chemistry, a non-covalent interaction differs from a covalent bond in that it does not involve the sharing of electrons, but rather involves more dispersed variations of electromagnetic interactions between molecules or within a molecule. The chemical energy released in the formation of non-covalent interactions is typically on the order of 1–5 kcal/mol (1000–5000 calories per 6.02 molecules). Non-covalent interactions can be classified into different categories, such as electrostatic, π-effects, van der Waals forces, and hydrophobic effects.

Non-covalent interactions are critical in maintaining the three-dimensional structure of large molecules, such as proteins and nucleic acids. They are also involved in many biological processes in which large molecules bind specifically but transiently to one another (see the properties section of the DNA page). These interactions also heavily influence drug design, crystallinity and design of materials, particularly for self-assembly, and, in general, the synthesis of many organic molecules.

The non-covalent interactions may occur between different parts of the same molecule (e.g. during protein folding) or between different molecules and therefore are discussed also as intermolecular forces.

Ionic
Ionic interactions involve the attraction of ions or molecules with full permanent charges of opposite signs. For example, sodium fluoride involves the attraction of the positive charge on sodium (Na+) with the negative charge on fluoride (F−). However, this particular interaction is easily broken upon addition to water, or other highly polar solvents. In water ion pairing is mostly entropy driven; a single salt bridge usually amounts to an attraction value of about ΔG =5 kJ/mol at an intermediate ion strength I, at I close to zero the value increases to about 8 kJ/mol. The ΔG values are usually additive and largely independent of the nature of the participating ions, except for transition metal ions etc.

These interactions can also be seen in molecules with a localized charge on a particular atom. For example, the full negative charge associated with ethoxide, the conjugate base of ethanol, is most commonly accompanied by the positive charge of an alkali metal salt such as the sodium cation (Na+).

Hydrogen bonding

A hydrogen bond (H-bond), is a specific type of interaction that involves dipole–dipole attraction between a partially positive hydrogen atom and a highly electronegative, partially negative oxygen, nitrogen, sulfur, or fluorine atom (not covalently bound to said hydrogen atom). It is not a covalent bond, but instead is classified as a strong non-covalent interaction. It is responsible for why water is a liquid at room temperature and not a gas (given water's low molecular weight). Most commonly, the strength of hydrogen bonds lies between 0–4 kcal/mol, but can sometimes be as strong as 40 kcal/mol In solvents such as chloroform or carbon tetrachloride one observes e.g. for the interaction between amides additive values of about 5 kJ/mol. According to Linus Pauling the strength of a hydrogen bond is essentially determined by the electrostatic charges. Measurements of thousands of complexes in chloroform or carbon tetrachloride have led to additive free energy increments for all kind of donor-acceptor combinations.

Halogen bonding

Halogen bonding is a type of non-covalent interaction which does not involve the formation nor breaking of actual bonds, but rather is similar to the dipole–dipole interaction known as hydrogen bonding. In halogen bonding, a halogen atom acts as an electrophile, or electron-seeking species, and forms a weak electrostatic interaction with a nucleophile, or electron-rich species. The nucleophilic agent in these interactions tends to be highly electronegative (such as oxygen, nitrogen, or sulfur), or may be anionic, bearing a negative formal charge. As compared to hydrogen bonding, the halogen atom takes the place of the partially positively charged hydrogen as the electrophile.

Halogen bonding should not be confused with halogen–aromatic interactions, as the two are related but differ by definition. Halogen–aromatic interactions involve an electron-rich aromatic π-cloud as a nucleophile; halogen bonding is restricted to monatomic nucleophiles.

Van der Waals forces
Van der Waals forces are a subset of electrostatic interactions involving permanent or induced dipoles (or multipoles). These include the following:
 * permanent dipole–dipole interactions, alternatively called the Keesom force
 * dipole-induced dipole interactions, or the Debye force
 * induced dipole-induced dipole interactions, commonly referred to as London dispersion forces

Hydrogen bonding and halogen bonding are typically not classified as Van der Waals forces.

Dipole–dipole

Dipole-dipole interactions are electrostatic interactions between permanent dipoles in molecules. These interactions tend to align the molecules to increase attraction (reducing potential energy). Normally, dipoles are associated with electronegative atoms, including oxygen, nitrogen, sulfur, and fluorine.

For example, acetone, the active ingredient in some nail polish removers, has a net dipole associated with the carbonyl (see figure 2). Since oxygen is more electronegative than the carbon that is covalently bonded to it, the electrons associated with that bond will be closer to the oxygen than the carbon, creating a partial negative charge (δ−) on the oxygen, and a partial positive charge (δ+) on the carbon. They are not full charges because the electrons are still shared through a covalent bond between the oxygen and carbon. If the electrons were no longer being shared, then the oxygen-carbon bond would be an electrostatic interaction.

Often molecules contain dipolar groups, but have no overall dipole moment. This occurs if there is symmetry within the molecule that causes the dipoles to cancel each other out. This occurs in molecules such as tetrachloromethane. Note that the dipole-dipole interaction between two individual atoms is usually zero, since atoms rarely carry a permanent dipole. See atomic dipoles.

Dipole-induced dipole
A dipole-induced dipole interaction (Debye force) is due to the approach of a molecule with a permanent dipole to another non-polar molecule with no permanent dipole. This approach causes the electrons of the non-polar molecule to be polarized toward or away from the dipole (or "induce" a dipole) of the approaching molecule. Specifically, the dipole can cause electrostatic attraction or repulsion of the electrons from the non-polar molecule, depending on orientation of the incoming dipole. Atoms with larger atomic radii are considered more "polarizable" and therefore experience greater attractions as a result of the Debye force.

London dispersion forces
London dispersion forces   are the weakest type of non-covalent interaction. In organic molecules, however, the multitude of contacts can lead to larger contributions, particularly in the presence of heteroatoms. They are also known as "induced dipole-induced dipole interactions" and present between all molecules, even those which inherently do not have permanent dipoles. Dispersive interactions increase with the polarizability of interacting groups, but are weakened by solvents of increased polarizability. They are caused by the temporary repulsion of electrons away from the electrons of a neighboring molecule, leading to a partially positive dipole on one molecule and a partially negative dipole on another molecule. Hexane is a good example of a molecule with no polarity or highly electronegative atoms, yet is a liquid at room temperature due mainly to London dispersion forces. In this example, when one hexane molecule approaches another, a temporary, weak partially negative dipole on the incoming hexane can polarize the electron cloud of another, causing a partially positive dipole on that hexane molecule. In absence of solvents hydrocarbons such as hexane form crystals due to dispersive forces ; the sublimation heat of crystals is a measure of the dispersive interaction. While these interactions are short-lived and very weak, they can be responsible for why certain non-polar molecules are liquids at room temperature.

π-effects
π-effects can be broken down into numerous categories, including π-π interactions, cation-π and anion-π interactions, and polar-π interactions. In general, π-effects are associated with the interactions of molecules with the π-systems of conjugated molecules such as benzene.

π–π interaction

π–π interactions are associated with the interaction between the π-orbitals of a molecular system. The high polarizability of aromatic rings lead to dispersive interactions as major contribution to so-called stacking effects. These play a major role for interactions of nucleobases e.g. in DNA. For a simple example, a benzene ring, with its fully conjugated π cloud, will interact in two major ways (and one minor way) with a neighboring benzene ring through a π–π interaction (see figure 3). The two major ways that benzene stacks are edge-to-face, with an enthalpy of ~2 kcal/mol, and displaced (or slip stacked), with an enthalpy of ~2.3 kcal/mol. The sandwich configuration is not nearly as stable of an interaction as the previously two mentioned due to high electrostatic repulsion of the electrons in the π orbitals.

Cation–π and anion–π interaction

Cation–pi interactions involve the positive charge of a cation interacting with the electrons in a π-system of a molecule. This interaction is surprisingly strong (as strong or stronger than H-bonding in some contexts), and has many potential applications in chemical sensors. For example, the sodium ion can easily sit atop the π cloud of a benzene molecule, with C6 symmetry (See figure 4).

Anion–π interactions are very similar to cation–π interactions, but reversed. In this case, an anion sits atop an electron-poor π-system, usually established by the placement of electron-withdrawing substituents on the conjugated molecule

Polar–π
Polar–π interactions involve molecules with permanent dipoles (such as water) interacting with the quadrupole moment of a π-system (such as that in benzene (see figure 5). While not as strong as a cation-π interaction, these interactions can be quite strong (~1-2 kcal/mol), and are commonly involved in protein folding and crystallinity of solids containing both hydrogen bonding and π-systems. In fact, any molecule with a hydrogen bond donor (hydrogen bound to a highly electronegative atom) will have favorable electrostatic interactions with the electron-rich π-system of a conjugated molecule.

Hydrophobic effect
The hydrophobic effect is the desire for non-polar molecules to aggregate in aqueous solutions in order to separate from water. This phenomenon leads to minimum exposed surface area of non-polar molecules to the polar water molecules (typically spherical droplets), and is commonly used in biochemistry to study protein folding and other various biological phenomenon. The effect is also commonly seen when mixing various oils (including cooking oil) and water. Over time, oil sitting on top of water will begin to aggregate into large flattened spheres from smaller droplets, eventually leading to a film of all oil sitting atop a pool of water. However the hydrophobic effect is not considered a non-covalent interaction as it is a function of entropy and not a specific interaction between two molecules, usually characterized by entropy.enthalpy compensation. An essentially enthalpic hydrophobic effect materializes if a limited number of water molecules are restricted within a cavity; displacement of such water molecules by a ligand frees the water molecules which then in the bulk water enjoy a maximum of hydrogen bonds close to four.

Drug design
Most pharmaceutical drugs are small molecules which elicit a physiological response by "binding" to enzymes or receptors, causing an increase or decrease in the enzyme's ability to function. The binding of a small molecule to a protein is governed by a combination of steric, or spatial considerations, in addition to various non-covalent interactions, although some drugs do covalently modify an active site (see irreversible inhibitors). Using the "lock and key model" of enzyme binding, a drug (key) must be of roughly the proper dimensions to fit the enzyme's binding site (lock). Using the appropriately sized molecular scaffold, drugs must also interact with the enzyme non-covalently in order to maximize binding affinity binding constant and reduce the ability of the drug to dissociate from the binding site. This is achieved by forming various non-covalent interactions between the small molecule and amino acids in the binding site, including: hydrogen bonding, electrostatic interactions, pi stacking, van der Waals interactions, and dipole–dipole interactions.

Non-covalent metallo drugs have been developed. For example, dinuclear triple-helical compounds in which three ligand strands wrap around two metals, resulting in a roughly cylindrical tetracation have been prepared. These compounds bind to the less-common nucleic acid structures, such as duplex DNA, Y-shaped fork structures and 4-way junctions.

Protein folding and structure
The folding of proteins from a primary (linear) sequence of amino acids to a three-dimensional structure is directed by all types of non-covalent interactions, including the hydrophobic forces and formation of intramolecular hydrogen bonds. Three-dimensional structures of proteins, including the secondary and tertiary structures, are stabilized by formation of hydrogen bonds. Through a series of small conformational changes, spatial orientations are modified so as to arrive at the most energetically minimized orientation achievable. The folding of proteins is often facilitated by enzymes known as molecular chaperones. Sterics, bond strain, and angle strain also play major roles in the folding of a protein from its primary sequence to its tertiary structure.

Single tertiary protein structures can also assemble to form protein complexes composed of multiple independently folded subunits. As a whole, this is called a protein's quaternary structure. The quaternary structure is generated by the formation of relatively strong non-covalent interactions, such as hydrogen bonds, between different subunits to generate a functional polymeric enzyme. Some proteins also utilize non-covalent interactions to bind cofactors in the active site during catalysis, however a cofactor can also be covalently attached to an enzyme. Cofactors can be either organic or inorganic molecules which assist in the catalytic mechanism of the active enzyme. The strength with which a cofactor is bound to an enzyme may vary greatly; non-covalently bound cofactors are typically anchored by hydrogen bonds or electrostatic interactions.

Boiling points
Non-covalent interactions have a significant effect on the boiling point of a liquid. Boiling point is defined as the temperature at which the vapor pressure of a liquid is equal to the pressure surrounding the liquid. More simply, it is the temperature at which a liquid becomes a gas. As one might expect, the stronger the non-covalent interactions present for a substance, the higher its boiling point. For example, consider three compounds of similar chemical composition: sodium n-butoxide (C4H9ONa), diethyl ether (C4H10O), and n-butanol (C4H9OH).

The predominant non-covalent interactions associated with each species in solution are listed in the above figure. As previously discussed, ionic interactions require considerably more energy to break than hydrogen bonds, which in turn are require more energy than dipole–dipole interactions. The trends observed in their boiling points (figure 8) shows exactly the correlation expected, where sodium n-butoxide requires significantly more heat energy (higher temperature) to boil than n-butanol, which boils at a much higher temperature than diethyl ether. The heat energy required for a compound to change from liquid to gas is associated with the energy required to break the intermolecular forces each molecule experiences in its liquid state.

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Talk:Nip/Tuck/Archive 1

I just realized that it's probably a bad thing to put in the slash in the title of this article. I don't know what else to do, though; that's the name of the show. Any suggestions?

 * It's probably fine. See AC/DC or TCP/IP (this one redirects though) ¬ Dori 07:04, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)

title?
What does "nip tuck" mean?
 * "nip and tuck", or "a nip here and a tuck there", or whatever, are figures of speech that refer to having plastic surgery done. -Branddobbe 06:31, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)

Every episode guide I can find lists the second season finale as "Joan Rivers". Unless someone can provide evidence of it being "Ava Moore", I'm changing it. Mole 17:18, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Before it was broadcast IMDb listed it as "Ava Moore", it has since been corrected there. violet/riga (t) 18:13, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Cleanup
Curious: Why is the page flagged with a needs to be "cleaned up" note? What specific sections need to be cleaned up? Is there a specific format that is used for most TV show entries that we should emulate? Brian 68.7.47.6 23:34, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I contacted the author who marked the page for cleanup and ask him to come by here and elaborate. Jtrost 23:47, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't believe it was me to marked the page for cleanup. When I made my edit, I wrote 'cleanup' as my edit summary. It appears, in the page history, that the cleanup mark was added on December 6th at 2:04 by a non-user. Personally I don't think that the page needs to be cleaned, and the on-going edits are progressing quite well. Sorry for the confusion, everyone. Sixhoursago 04:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I saw cleanup on your edit summary and made an assumption. Unless there are people who think this article needs to be cleaned up I'd like to remove it. Jtrost 04:31, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Remove it, I say. As Sixhoursago said, the edits to this page have been progressing well.  No need for the tag. Jeff Silvers 13:36, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

I knew the carver's identity but was edited when I posted about it
Yami 13:00, 1 April 2006 (UTC) Back in December I edited the page. Me and a group of people who watch the show saw that Quentin Costa was bisexual and that the Carver was known to attack both sexes. I posted under "Hints and clues to the Carver's identity"

This was my post It it thought that the Carver is the bisexual Quentin Costa. This is supported by his medical knowledge and by his raping of two males. The odds of a stright rapist knowlingly and willingly raping a same sex vitim is 100-1.

This edit was rejected saying it was "unfounded and just speculation" now i know i made a mistake and it should have started with it is and not it it. I'm also not sure if it's 100-1 or 1-100. check my contributions to see and verify that i did indeed comment upon this topic. I waited until the carver was revealed to post this. I've not had cable since December so it was hard to know when this was.

Main Characters
Why is the Carver listed as a main character? Other characters such as Liz, Gina, and Quinten seem to be playing larger roles than the Carver. Also shouldn't Annie be listed as a secondary character? Jtrost 17:10, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I originally moved the Carver from the secondary characters list to main characters because, at the time, he appeared to be playing a very major role in the show (this was during the first few episodes of the third season). You're right, though, he's really a secondary character at this point. Jeff Silvers 20:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

An anon with the IP 212.205.253.80 created a section listing the main characters on the show. This was redundent, as these characters are listed in the two sections "Main characters" and "Other characters," which also provide descriptions. I removed the redundent list. Jeff Silvers 16:24, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Characters (Cleanup)
Another cleanup flag without notes of what should be done. Should we remove the flag or does anybody have any ideas/guidleines for improvement? ['Brian' finally registered!] LongboardSanDiego 17:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I would like to see this section cleaned up. I think what happened is after some episodes people would tack on a sentence at the end of each bio to update what happened to that character.  Since most main characters have their own wiki page I think it'd be best to save detailed info for that page, and just put a brief overview of the character on this page.  I think the section should also be divided into three sections: main characters, recurring characters, and previous characters.  Previous characters would be people that are no longer in the show, such as Ava, Adrian, andMerrill. Jtrost 18:11, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I hear you on cutting down, and putting the main details in each character's wiki is a perfect solution. 'Previous characters' might be a bit untenable, since characters have a way of re-appearing in this show.  How about: 'Main', 'Recurring', and 'Notable Guest Stars'?  I looked at the entry for The Shield and added the bold char names - it seems to look better. LongboardSanDiego 18:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I had some time to kill, so I broke out the detailed histories to the individual char entries, edited down the summaries, added a note about it, changed the char section subtitles to 'Main', 'Recurring', and 'Notable Guest Appearances'. The individual char entries still need a lot of work! LongboardSanDiego 20:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Great work! However, I don't think it's necessary to have the words "Summary of" in this section because the sentence at the top says to click on links for a full bio. Jtrost 00:58, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure putting 'former cast' and 'villains' into their own sub-sections is necessary. I deleted the 'Former' cast, as time is not a factor in a cast list. The parens - for example: (Season 1) - show how long a recurring character was with the show.LongboardSanDiego 05:24, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

With this entry, I've tried to keep the summaries short and (as much as possible) void of spoilers, history, or extraneous detail. I think an ideal example of well written character summaries can be found in the Wiki for the Action (TV series). - LongboardSanDiego 01:42, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Section: Real-life basis for surgeries
To whomever added this, I think it's a great idea, and I'd like to see it expanded upon. I'm going to add a section stub there for now. Jeff Silvers 02:19, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
 * 12/5/2005 - Thanks Jeff. My name's Brian, I added it. I've been adding bits and pieces to this entry, and I've been cleaning up 'The Carver' entry for the last few days.  I have another item for the Real-Life section regarding the upcoming 3.13 show that I will add after it has aired.
 * Thanks for your contributions! It'd be a good idea if you registered so you can keep track of your changes easily and also watch pages.  And don't forget to sign your comments with four tildes.  Something that I think is particularly important for a section like this is citing where you get the information from.  Thanks again! Jtrost 04:30, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I will register maybe this weekend. It would be nice if someone from the show piped in with more 'Real-Life' source material! When you get a chance, check out [The Carver] article. Someone recently completely re-did the entire thing.  While I'm not sure if I like the new format (too much speculation/opinion), I figured since we'll know who it is in a few weeks, there's no use in fooling around with it now. Brian - 68.7.47.6 21:34, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I've added some new entries here tonight, and I'm starting to think it should be broken off into a separate section, similar to the episode guide or issues list. Thoughts? Brian 68.7.47.6 01:51, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Number of episodes left?
The preview for episode 42 ("Joy Kringle") that aired tonight after "Sal Perri" said that there was only one more episode left before the two-hour season finale. However, according to this article, there are two more, "Joy Kringle" and "Cherry Peck," before the season finale, "Quentin Costa." Anybody know why this is? Jeff Silvers 04:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Could the last two episodes be airing back-to-back as one episode? I'm not sure where people get the episode titles from, but this should be clarified. Jtrost 04:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * According to niptuckfans.com, the "two-hour season finale" FX advertised is actually two separate episodes back-to-back. I'll change the date of the last episode to December 20. Jeff Silvers 04:52, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * We probably should clean this up and remove this part of the discussion, considering that the episodes have already aired.ArgentiumOutlaw 02:49, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Issues addressed
This section has always bothered me because it is a meaningless list of themes that occur in the episodes. I would like to make a new article, Issues addressed in Nip/Tuck, import this list, and expand on it by talking about the story lines that address each theme. I've done an example for obesity.

Obesity
 * In episode 1.03, "Nanette Babcock", Nannette wants Sean and Christian to perform liposuction on her so she can look skinny for her 10 year high school reunion.
 * In episode 3.01, "Momma Boone", the title character is morbidly obese and has fused herself with a couch she has been sitting in for years. Sean and Christian are commissioned to surgically remove her from the couch.

Is this something that other authors would be interested in working on if I were to create the article? Jtrost 22:43, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it's a great idea. The list has also looked out of place to me, too, but also seemed too important to remove, as dealing with sometimes controversial issues is an important part of the show. Jeff Silvers 23:04, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Here's the article: Issues addressed in Nip/Tuck. I put a comment at the top of the page for people not to mark it for deletion.  I'm concerned that someone will see that it is simply a bunch of links and put up an afd.  Hopefully the comment will deter that.  I also categorized each issue, but I'd like if someone else looked over the list and make sure everything looks right.  Also there were some that I didn't know how to categorize so I put them under Other. Jtrost 23:53, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Episode list
The episode list became lengthy after I added brief descriptions of each episode so I moved it to its own page, List of Nip/Tuck episodes. This is how many other TV show articles handle their episode list. Also other TV show articles have a screenshot from the episode accompanied with it. Is that something that anyone would be interested in collecting and adding? Jtrost 17:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Regular cast members
Aren't Bruno Campos and Kelly Carlson both regular cast members now? They're all listed in the main credits along everyone else. I noticed that they were removed from the "Starring" box. --MisterHand 16:43, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Authenticity of MySpace Profile
Is the linked-to MySpace profile the "official" profile established by the FX Networks? I'm unable to verify that this is the case after looking on fxnetworks.com. Some related articles, such as The_Carver, assert that a certain MySpace profile is indeed "official", but I can't substantiate this. I believe an out-link from the producer/network's web site to the MySpace profile would be sufficient to verify the authenticity.
 * The Carver profile is definitely legit, as they advertise it during the show. -- MisterHand 16:43, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Peter Braunstein
There is almost 700 hits for this guy at http://news.google.com/ while only 18 hits appear to also contain the words "Nip/Tuck". All that do are tabloids and several are from the New York Daily News. Perhaps this should be removed? --87.80.42.198 00:35, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * The guy bought a voice altering device similar to The Carver's and the show on DVD before he attacked his victims. I think it's relevent. Jtrost 03:43, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree that it is relevant and shouldn't be removed.ArgentiumOutlaw 02:49, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Category:Nip/Tuck media
I created a category for Nip/Tuck media (images, etc.) As far as I can tell, I've added every relevent picture on every Nip/Tuck article to the category. If anybody uploads any more Nip/Tuck images, sound files, or movie files (...are movie files even included on Wikipedia?), please be sure to place it in Category:Nip/Tuck media. Jeff Silvers 12:10, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jeff. We've accumulated a lot of stuff, and it's a good idea to have it all together.  Nice work. --MisterHand 14:32, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Disputed
The show, while not strictly a soap opera, has some story arcs. In its debut season, Nip/Tuck was the highest-rated new series on basic cable, and the highest rated basic cable series of all for the 18-49 and 25-54 age demographics. The first season averaged about 3.25 million viewers an episode. Nip/Tuck is rated TV-MA, for mature audiences.

I am not sure if this applies to the UK. I watch this show in the UK. --Sunfazer 12:17, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

 * OK then, so let's just specify USA. --Golbez 15:10, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Soap Opera
Why is the soap opera part mentioned in the article? This is a prime-time drama. It has story arcs like any other prime-time drama, including Lost, The OC, West Wing, etc. Certainly nobody would call West Wing a soap. So, why is the mention there if it then states that it's not so? It ought to be made more clear what the relevance is, or else removed. Ario 09:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Many of the defining storylines of Nip/Tuck also appear in a stereotypical soap opera. For example, paternity tests, mistaken identity, close friends having tabooish flings, etc...  We have an entire article on Issues addressed in Nip/Tuck that covers all of this.  The OC is also a soap, and it is defined as such in the first sentence of that article.  The reason why The West Wing and Lost are not soaps are because they have larger issues that the characters deal with. Jtrost 15:51, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Userbox
Chernicky 06:33, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oooh, that's just awesome. :) Jeff Silvers 01:48, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * =D Sooo cool. KEYLAY31 hablame 06:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Broadcast in other countries
In the table of countries it's broadcast in, the phrase "full translation" is used a lot. Does that mean dubbing? It should be clear. -Branddobbe 06:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Does anyone know the answer to this question? -Branddobbe 04:23, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Criticism section: expand
I agree that the section could be expanded, User:Jtrost. I actually don't know all that much about Nip/Tuck, and so I was surprised when I stumbled on the sources that I did (both internal and external). It was a bit unusual that the article is quite extensive, but lacking any criticism or praise sections. Speaking of which, maybe a "Praise" section or combined "Praise and Criticism" section would be a good idea, with praise from TV critics or something similar, although many awards are already listed. Let me know if you have any other thoughts on this. Ufwuct 22:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to whoever brought back the info that I accidentally deleted!!! Newbie mistake, sorry.

Added to trivia section
Just added information on the other promo for season four. The one where they're attaching arms to the Venus De Milo. Levid37 03:57, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Landau's villians?
Why are the Landau's listed as villians?

··I read on another site that they are supposed to be this season's antagonists. But for the time being I think they should be moved to minor charaters. ShadowWriter 17:20, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

After seeing tonight's episode, I would definitely classify (Michelle at least) the Landau's as villains. BigD527 03:28, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm still not sure you could call her a villian. Very bussiness oriented and a black-mail victim yes.ShadowWriter 21:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I stand corrected. After seeing her in this weeks episode you can now call her a villian.ShadowWriter 17:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Annie McNamara
Shouldn't Annie be considers a major charather?ShadowWriter 23:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * She usually doesn't have much of a major influence on the events of the show, typically serving a marginal "contrast" role (she's really the only character who ever seems sane, especially when juxtaposed with the swirling chaos of the other characters' lives). It looks like she might be getting a pretty significant storyline involving her uncomfortability with Conor's disability, though I'm going to guess that even that will serve mostly as punctuation for a storyline involving the main players.  Right now, I'd say she isn't a main character. Jeff Silvers 16:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Story parallels
I think somewhere in the article something needs to be mentioned about the story parallels. I think this is an important part of what makes the show great. I've watched the whole three seasons once, and I remember that striking me. A few I can remember:

 * 204 Mrs. Grubman - The story at Annie's puberty party parallels Kimber's experiences, so much that When Sophie is telling the story, Kimber is shown.

 * 208 Agatha Ripp - Faith is a subject for all of the characters throughtout the episode.

 * 209 Rose and Raven Rosenberg - The seperation of the twins is symbolic of the seperation of Sean and Troy separating as partners. When the twins are being re-attached, the partners reconcile.

+ many more

I'm not quite sure where to put this info. New section maybe? I'll add to the list as I go through the episodes. --Daniel Olsen 06:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

.Maybe you could add these to the epsiodes themselves. Most of the episodes have no story background on them whatsoever. I know there is an episode list here on Wikipedia.ShadowWriter 16:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * List of Nip/Tuck episodes. Jeff Silvers 18:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Faith Wolper
Should she get her own page now? After all she just got a tattoo of Christen's name on her back.ShadowWriter 22:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, she probably should. --Cliff smith 02:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

A suggestion for a new section:
I was wondering if someone might consider adding a list of songs that are featured in various episodes. Perhaps this could be encorporated into the trivia section. It would be very useful for people who are trying to find out the artist and title of a song in case they want to buy the song.(Addobbi 02:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC))

Well, right now, there is a list of all the surgery music on List of Nip/Tuck episodes, but if someone wants to go and compile a list of all the music from every episode, I think that should be given its own article. Music featured on Nip/Tuck, perhaps? The list would be far too long. BigD527 05:14, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

BigD527 03:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * FYI if anybody reads this anymore, I'm in the middle of compiling this and formatting it. Expect it by the end of 2006 (hopefully...if i don't get sidetracked).

 * Okay so bored today and finished the list. Can people help start Wikifying? I'm going to start with SEASON FOUR BigD527 22:19, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Julia: Star or not
I have yet to see episode 4x13 "Reefer". However, in 4x12 "Diana Lubey", Joely Richardson was still billed in the opening credits, despite the fact that she is likely not to appear in any future episodes. So, until her name is removed from the opening credits of the show, I feel like she should remain in the "Starring" section. Once her name disappears (and again, if it happens in 4x13 I apologize for the pre-emptive move), then we move her to formerly starring.

 * Guys, there has been no official report on Joely's supposed departure from the show. As far as we know, she is on temporary hiatus from the show. Though she didn't appear in the last four episodes, she still got star billing. She should remain until we hear something besides a report that only speculates on her future, such as a press release from Joely herself. BigD527 03:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Julia is listed as (Seasons 1-4) on the character page, indicating that she is gone. This is based on nothing.  My question is, should we both to change it to (Seasons 1-present) or just leave it the way it is?  Geeky Randy 06:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I think she should be listed as (1-present), as I stated in my last message above. Until the credits indicate to us otherwise, she's still listed as one of the star characters. BigD527 17:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Gina came back
Gina came back to show for an episode, I put her in the minor character part. But put that she was a regular last season. Think that is ok? Brainboy109 December 5, 2006 17:51 (UTC)

 * I haven't seen episode 4x14 yet. Was she listed in the opening sequence like she was for a part of Season 3? If so, put her in the "Starring" section. Otherwise, minor characters is the perfect place for her. =) BigD527 18:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I believe she was listed as a "Special Guest Star". She would definately not be a main character for Season 4, even though she was the previous season.  Geeky Randy 06:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Who or what is Nip and Tuck?
Is the title a play with words or what? 213.100.22.50 07:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * A nip and tuck is a plastic surgery, basically another name for a face lift - they nip your skin and tuck away the wrinkles. I think. --Golbez 16:35, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It is indeed a play on words. The original meaning (from which the face lift euphemism derives) is similar to 'neck and neck' – see the dictionary definition. The show's title is a further play on words, as I believe it is intended to be pronounced 'Nip Slash Tuck'. (If anyone can be bothered to cite that, it might be worth mentioning in the article.) Grant 12:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe that's true, as whenever the show begins, one of the main characters always starts it off by saying "Previously on Nip/Tuck", without pronouncing the "slash" BigD527 20:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Goofs section
Not seeing a goofs section on here. I just noticed in episode 1.04 when Christian is about to buy a new Lamborghini Diablo, that the dealership signs say "Lamborghini - Alfa Romeo - Maserati". Well, Fiat owns Ferrari, Maserati, and Alfa Romeo. Lamborghini was never owned by Fiat, but even if they were sold at the same dealerships, Alfa Romeo hasn't been sold in the United States since 1995 or so. And you can't import them to the US either, based on emissions guidelines (I've tried).

I'm sure there are plenty of other goofs throughout the series; figured it would be good to start this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.203.2 (talk) 00:33, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Service of process

Random questions
If a party didn't get serve in person and was serve by an inter-office mail at work. Would that be acceptable?
 * Depends on the rules of the jurisdiction, but it could potentially go both ways. It may be legitimate service, or it could be procedurally defective. So long as the person actually got served. You may wish to consult a lawyer if you have any questions. Mmmbeer 17:01, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Suppose the process server simply forges the party's signature and the party was never really served, then what? There should be a section on improper service or the law governing misconduct by a process server. talk 18:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I think it's safe to say most people know that laws are not meant to be broken. Documenting the laws that can potentially govern the abuse of process, improper or illegal service of process and process server misconduct in every state and every country for every conceivable set of circumstances would take years and fill volumes.

Why does Legal process redirect here? Is this something you do not have in America?--Seamus O'Halloran 22:19, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

 * In the U.S.A. "Legal process" is a term commonly used to describe any procedure available under the law, not just service of process. You can see what I mean by conducting a search on Google: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22legal+process%22&btnG=Google+Search

Removed the "Become a Process Server" section & links to http://BayAreaProcessServers.org

 * 1) Please stop trying to promote servenow.com in this section. Wikipedia is not a business directory and articles are not advertisements (an official policy of long standing). Your ongoing efforts to promote servenow.com here contradict and conflict with the efforts of many who volunteer their time to provide reliable unbiased information in a manner consistent with the high standards everyone wants from Wikipedia.
 * 2) The purpose of Wikipedia is to present facts, not to teach a subject matter. Posting pages of information on how to become a process server would be inappropriate even without the links going back to your web site.
 * 3) Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. The laws you posted were incomplete (abstracts) and did not include links to reliable sources (process serving laws change constantly).
 * 4) Wikipedia works by building consensus. Service of Process is a subject of international interest, you should discuss it first before attempting to overwhelm "service of process" with USA information.

Thank you for removing this section, whoever did it. I agree, servenow.com was simply trying to build links for themselves, and not providing any good info to the Wikipedia community. Great work, and have a great new year. While you are at it, why not remove the link to National Association of Professional Process Servers? This is also an advertisment for Process servers that belong to that association. Thank you.

Process Serving
Would it be possible to have 'process serving' direct to this page. Generally, that's what it is known as in the UK and Ireland. I thought the page didn't exist at first, because my first entry when looking for it was 'process serving'. Unfortunately, I'm new to Wikipedia and I don't know how to do it myself! Blaise Joshua 12:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

It seems that the content from the article on Process agents would be more appropriate merged in to the content from the article on Process servers. CheshireKatz 03:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

It seems that the definition of service of process is flawed, legal notice is not neccesarily achieved by effectuating service of process. At least in the U.S., it is possible to satisfy service of process without satisfying legal notice as required by the Due Process Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

 * Please include a link to the local, State or Federal code you are referring to above.

Service on Corporations
The following, in regards to service of process on a corporation's registered agent, is incorrect (Service on an agent of a corporation is a form of personal service):

"Acceptance by an agent for acceptance of service is a form of substituted service"

Merger
I am mildly against merging process agent with service of process. Although the former article is small at the moment, it is probably big enough as a topic to warrant its own article. --Legis (talk - contributions) 14:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I agree. However, shouldn't process agent be merged with registered agent? PeetMoss 15:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

There is a lot here on the United States as I see, there is a mistake though in relation to the Hague on how it applies to service in Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris Ecklund (talk • contribs) 01:29, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Deception used to serve process in US (as featured in many US movies) ?
Many US movies portray the use of various forms of deception/acting in order to get "papers" into the hands of someone being served.

As a non-US citizen, this practice seems bizarre and I came to this page to find out the extent to which this happens in reality, why it happens and why it is permitted. However, I find no reference to this practice. Does this mean it is entirely a fabrication of Hollywood? This seems unlikely, given how widespread the portrayal in film.

Two recent examples are "Burn After Reading" and "Pineapple Express", both of which feature scenes (multiple in the latter movie) in which someone pretends to be someone else in order to serve papers.

 * Deception/acting is extremely common. Why do you find it bizarre? PeetMoss (talk) 21:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

 * because it's a serious formal/legal process and it seems bizarre for it to be legal to start such a process using deception. Put another way, it would seem that the law would need to hold itself to a higher standard.  In any case, it would be good if this element was covered in the article.

 * You could set a higher standard if avoiding service of process was not the norm.

 * Indeed. All I am saying is that from a non-US perspective, this approach seems in parts bizarre and counter-intuitive; probably precisely because it's not obvious that avoiding the service of process is an option.  This article is already cited with a 'The examples and perspective in this article deal primarily with the United States and do not represent a worldwide view of the subject...' note.  I just needs more explicit explanation for people (like me) to whom it isn't implicitly obvious. --Jeremy94117 (talk) 17:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I don't understand what you are talking about. Attempting to avoid service of process is not unique to the U.S., its common in every country where service of process is performed. I'm not sure why you call it bizarre or counter-intuitive either. PeetMoss (talk) 22:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

 * It should at least be detailed in the article, if a good source can be found. Even after reading this conversation, I'm still unsure whether it's a hollywood myth or not. --78.144.53.170 (talk) 12:10, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Sorry, but that's like asking for a source that the sky is blue. Look at it this way... if it were true that people never attempt to avoid service of process than why do we have process servers and why are they paid a lot more than someone delivering flowers or pizzas? Why not just mail the documents to the defendant with a request to acknowledge receipt. If you are correct no one would attempt to avoid service by not acknowledging they received the documents and we could save a lot of money when filing lawsuits. PeetMoss (talk) 02:40, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Source that the sky is blue: . ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 17:44, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Honesty is the best policy when serving legal papers on someone. One lady told me that the UPS package ploy had been used on her once and she was ready for that. She said she appreciated my honesty about being told I was a process server. Also, process servers make more money because the job is more dangerous than delivering flowers or a pizza for example. The market is competitive too.

http://bayareaprocessservers.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.128.35.13 (talk) 19:31, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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User:Davidals

42-year-old native of North Carolina; I've lived in Charlotte, Boone, Chapel Hill and Carrboro. Alongside varied sporadic Wikipedia contributions, I've contributed to a handful of other publications and several online sites, with cultural studies, music, film and literature as key areas of focus.

Articles started:
Botany / Plants: Citrus
 * Citrus halimii
 * Citrus macrophylla
 * Clymenia (plant)
 * Shangjuan
 * Triphasia brassii

Solanaceae
 * Solanum abutiloides
 * Solanum candidum
 * Solanum caripense
 * Solanum pseudolulo
 * Solanum repandum

Film: Film, Individual
 * An Autumn Afternoon Japan
 * Cruel Story Of Youth Japan
 * Enjo Japan
 * Humanity and Paper Balloons Japan
 * Jalsaghar India (Bengali)
 * Mahanagar India (Bengali)
 * Nayak India (Bengali)
 * Parash Pathar India (Bengali)
 * The Crucified Lovers Japan

Film Criticism
 * Our Films, Their Films (Satyajit Ray)
 * Tadao Sato

Filmmakers
 * Sadao Yamanaka Japan

Maps-Publishing:
 * Dolph Map Company
 * Geographia Map Company

Weather:
 * 1936 Cordele-Greensboro tornado outbreak
 * 1984 Carolinas tornado outbreak
 * 1993 Virginia tornado outbreak
 * April 1924 tornado outbreak
 * Enigma tornado outbreak
 * Maryland, Virginia, and Washington, D.C. tornado outbreak of 2001
 * May 1989 tornado outbreak
 * Midwest To Mid-Atlantic Tornado Outbreak
 * November 1992 tornado outbreak
 * Raleigh Tornado
 * Rye Cove, Virginia tornado outbreaks
 * Southeastern tornado outbreak of April 1957
 * Windsor Locks, Connecticut Tornado

Geography:
 * Fairview, North Carolina (town)
 * Garden Parkway
 * I-85 Corridor
 * North Carolina Research Campus

Misc:
 * North Carolina Gay & Lesbian Film Festival

Articles worked on:
Botany & Plants:
 * Ichang papeda
 * Papeda
 * Psidium guajava
 * Solanum cajanumense
 * Solanum quitoense
 * Solanum sessiliflorum
 * Solanum sibundoyense
 * Sudachi
 * Yuzu

Film:

Films
 * Aparajito
 * Apu trilogy
 * The Burmese Harp
 * Charulata
 * Death By Hanging
 * Goopy Gyne Bagha Byne
 * Kanchenjungha
 * Meghe Dhaka Tara
 * Pather Panchali
 * Queer Boys and Girls on the Shinkansen
 * The World of Apu

Filmmakers & Actors
 * Soumitra Chatterjee
 * Ritwik Ghatak
 * Kon Ichikawa
 * Tatsuya Nakadai
 * Nagisa Oshima
 * Satyajit Ray
 * Apichatpong Weerasethakul

Film History
 * Auteur
 * Cinema of Japan
 * Cinéma vérité
 * East Asian cinema
 * List of Japanese language films
 * Nuberu bagu (Japanese New Wave) - major rewrite

Religion:
 * Buddhism in the United States

Ethnicity, Culture & Society:
 * Culture of the Southern United States

Geology:
 * Laacher See

Geography:
 * Asheville
 * Carrboro
 * Chapel Hill
 * Charlotte
 * Charlotte metropolitan area
 * Cherokee County
 * Gastonia
 * Hendersonville
 * Kannapolis
 * Megalopolis (city type)
 * The Upstate
 * Piedmont Triad - major update
 * Southeastern United States
 * Southern United States
 * The Triangle (North Carolina)
 * Waynesville
 * Wilmington

Literature:
 * Sukumar Ray

Miscellany:
 * Creative Class
 * Exquisite corpse
 * List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people

Music:
 * Polvo
 * Shugo Tokumaru

Weather:
 * 1993 North American storm complex
 * Blizzard of 1996
 * List of derecho events
 * List of tornadoes and tornado outbreaks
 * List of tornadoes striking downtown areas
 * Palm Sunday tornado outbreak of 1994
 * Super Outbreak

The Work
Jobs held have inculded writing film & music reviews, purchasing for a music distribution company, varied levels of retail, editing for publication, multi-tasking in a food co-op, and touring bassist for a rock/punk band. I began playing bass guitar when I was 17. I am listed as a contributor to the Senses Of Cinema film journal; varied bits of my writing appear on several not-especially prestigious websites.

The Hobbies
French, Italian, Iranian, Bengali, Chinese, Hong Kong, Japanese punk, post-punk, jazz, early fusion, 20th century classical, new wave, old-time, bluegrass, garage/psych, krautrock, classic rock, rock en Espanol, international garage, gamelan...On certain days I think Talking Heads and The Clash were perhaps, interchangeably, the greatest rock bands ever. primarily, but not limited to Latin-American (20th century) literature, Chinese (classical) literature, Japanese (20th century) literature, Russian, the history and evolution of certain literary and arts movements (surrealism, the Harlem renaissance, beat literature, magic realism, dada, pop art) I'm a weather geek. A long-term project is collecting and documenting the history of severe weather events (hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, ice storms) in the eastern U.S. Citrus, solanaceae, annonaceae are a few particulars. I have container-cultivated lemon, guava, strawberry guava, red guava, yuzu, calamondin, pacay, and a few other things lurking about the apartment.
 * Film
 * Music
 * Literature & Art
 * Meteorology
 * Botany

African-American history and civil rights, LGBT rights and issues, the 1960s, the 1970s social change & sociology, maps (I collect vintage street maps of American cities), Asian history, Buddhism, politics, nature and anthropology are but a few of many interests.

family
My extended family is to be found in New York, New Jersey, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Wisconsin, and California; various extended family members have lived - at some point - in Jamaica, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, The Philippines, South Korea, and a handful of other notable spots. I love to travel though it doesn't happen nearly as often as I would like.

travels
Thus far, I've visited 17 states in the U.S., 86 of the 100 counties in North Carolina, and 4 other countries. There are many, many places in the world I would love to see.

quirks
I am a pisces, Meyers-Briggs INTP, and fall just below the Aspergers clinical threshold. I am a recent cancer survivor.

cred
In 1998, the PBS series P.O.V. aired the documentary Family Name (directed by New York-based filmmaker Macky Alston), which investigated in depth the family history and genealogy of both the black and white sides of my paternal family lineage. I am a distant cousin to artists Romare Bearden and Charles Alston. I was once a neighbor to an individual who played a key role in the American Civil rights movement.

Books
Jorge Luis Borges' Labyrinths Vladimir Nabokov's Pale Fire Bohumil Hrabal's I Served The King Of England Peter Matthiessen's The Snow Leopard Don DeLillo's White Noise Pu Songling's Strange Stories from a Chinese Studio Han Shaogong's A Dictionary of Maqiao Julio Cortázar's Hopscotch Felipe Alfau's Locos: A Comedy of Gestures Jun'ichirō Tanizaki's Seven Japanese Tales

Music
Television's Marquee Moon Talking Heads' More Songs About Buildings and Food Miles Davis' In A Silent Way Pere Ubu's The Modern Dance Pylon's Hits Eric Dolphy's Stockholm Sessions Mahavishnu Orchestra's Birds of Fire Al Green's Greatest Hits The Velvet Underground's V.U. The Clash's London Calling

Films
Sansho the Bailiff Aparajito Sunset Boulevard Charulata Cleo from 5 to 7 A Touch of Zen Ugetsu Being There L'Avventura Mysterious Object at Noon

Consumption: Edibles, Not Tuberculosis
--Davidals (talk) 07:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

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Where does Guantanamo go?
Hi Shocktm,

I'm wondering where Guantanomo should go. Is it at proper pene-exclave as it is only a lease or is it just regarded a military base and therefore just a ex-territory just as embassies are?

I opt for the pene-exclave. What is your view?

Rgds

Peter Mulvany —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mulvany (talk • contribs) 23:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * As it leased land it is not an enclave/exclave and should not be listed on List of enclaves and exclaves. Maybe an explaintion should be added to the top section about leased land instead otherwise the list will get longer with a lot of militraty base/embassies/etc. -- (Shocktm | Talk | contribs.) 23:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Renewed discussion about the EU entry in List of countries and outlying territories by total area
Hi,

I'm contacting you because you participated in the discussion about the EU entry in List of countries and outlying territories by total area in the past. So I concluded that you might be interested to know that two editors currently push for a change in the article structure that is in conflict with the standing consensus resulting out of our past discussion.

The consensus was to include the EU entry in the initial text of the article, but not in the actual table (even unnumbered). — Whereas the change that is currently pushed would result in moving the EU entry to the very end of the article, even after the references/sources table. The result can be seen here:.

The standing consensus was not my favorite solution, as I would like to include the EU into the very list (unnumbered), but I content myself with the standing compromise. Whether you agree to or oppose the change, I strongly feel that the article's structure should not be changed without a proper discussion and maybe even a new vote before changing the standing compromise. You might want to give your point of view in the current discussion at
 * Talk:List_of_countries_and_outlying_territories_by_total_area

Cheers and take care, MikeZ (talk) 14:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

An AFD you participated in before is back for a second round
List of special entities recognized by international treaty or agreement is nominated for deletion again. I'm contacting all of those who participated in the first AFD discussion.  D r e a m Focus  02:26, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Foreign establishment

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Richard Valpy

Richard Valpy (7 December 1754 – 28 March 1836) was a British schoolmaster and priest of the Church of England. He is best known as the head master of Reading Grammar School, in the town of Reading, England.

Life and career
Valpy was born the eldest son of Richard and Catherine Valpy in Jersey. He was sent to schools in Normandy and Southampton and completed his education at Pembroke College, Oxford. In 1777 he was ordained. After holding a mastership at Bury, in 1781 he became head master of Reading School, a post which he held for 50 years. From 1787 he held also the rectory of Stradishall, Suffolk. During the early part of Valpy's long head-mastership the school flourished greatly. At least 120 boys attended it.

He was the author of Greek and Latin grammars which enjoyed a large circulation. His Greek Delectus and Latin Delectus were long familiar to public school boys. He is said to have been a mighty flogger, and to have refused two bishoprics. In 1800 he was requested by his old pupils to sit for a full-length portrait and 30 years later, on the occasion of his jubilee, he was presented with a service of plate. Mary Russell Mitford spoken of him as vainer than a peacock.

The school was declining before Valpy's long reign closed. His successor was his son, Francis Valpy (1797-1882), appointed in 1830. Richard Valpy died in London. He is buried in a mausoleum in front of the main chapel in Kensal Green Cemetery.

A statue was erected in Reading's St Lawrence's Church to commemorate him. Valpy Street, in Reading town centre and adjacent to the then site of Reading Grammar School, is named after him.

He was also the father of printer and publisher Abraham John Valpy and of New Zealand pioneer William Henry Valpy.

Bowdlerisation
"The Second part of King Henry the Fourth, altered from William Shakespeare as it was acted at Reading School in October 1801. Published as it was performed for the benefit of the Humane Society" By Richard Valpy.

"WHEN the First Part of King Henry the Fourth was played at Reading School, it was sufficient to curtail some tedious pages, and to omit some exceptionable expressions. In the Second Part it was absolutely necessary to do more. This Play in the original is disfigured not only with indelicate speeches, but with characters that cannot now be tolerated on a public theatre."

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