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Talk:Hierarchy of devils

I came across this article while doing some research, and thought I'd give some background on the "source" of information. The Hierarchy given in the article reflects hierarchy attributed to demonology. Specifically, the work of Arthur Edward Waite, an english occultist. He based his research on a midevil grimoire called the The Lesser Key of Solomon. You'll find mention of some of the demons in Chapter 3 (concerning the descending hierarchy) of Waite's book, The Book of Ceremonial Magic (Citadel Press). There are discrepencies between the article and what was published in Waite's work, as well as The Lesser Key of Solomon. Before I forget, you can download a PDF copy of The Lesser Key of Solomon in 2 parts HERE : PART1 and PART2

I'd like to add that there are a lot of people that consider the hierarchy published in The Lesser Key of Solomon as nonsense. The person who wrote the book alluded to basing his knowledge of the hierarchy of hell due to demonic posession.

Some inconistencies
In the first part of this page, Azazel is referred to as the leader of the Nephilim, which is inaccurate. The Nephilim did not have a leader, being part angel, part human. Instead, Samyaza is the leader of the Grigori (watchers), according to 1 Enoch, as other wiki pages indicate.

I did not fix this inconsistency because I did not wish to remove azazel from the original seraphim fallen, nor did I wish to add Samyaza (as I'm not certain he was considered one of the Seraphim).

Either way, this page conflicts with others in this way, and should be corrected. I may add a tag saying as such to the header of the page. -Draxxon —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.84.47.99 (talk) 17:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

Hierarchy of Demons
Any reason there are two different articles labeled 'Hierarchy of Demons' and 'Hierarchy of Devils'? I just thought that Demons and Devils were the same thing... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.243.126.208 (talk) 03:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Satan/Lucifer
I'm pretty sure that your reference to these as being the same person is false. Satan is refered to throughout history. however Lucifer is only mentioned recently(in the last few hundred years) during an exorsism. I'm also sure that lucifer and satan are diffrent entities entierly, i'm al;so sure there is a refrance to this on wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.136.200 (talk) 15:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Wrapping things up here
Sebastian Michaelis (whose writings were the main basis for the article) did not write the Lesser Key of Solomon (the hierarchy of which is detailed in THAT article), Michaelis's hierarchy is already mentioned in the Classification of demons article and this shouldn't have been separate from that. Demons and devils are the same thing until Dungeons & Dragons came about (and even in the beginning they didn't regard them as different). Michaelis (and the Lesser Key of Solomon) would have considered Satan and Lucifer to be the same being, Lucifer was regarded as the same as Satan since the middle ages, likely antiquity as well. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

 * I'd just like to point out to you that in the occult, as well as in the pantheons of many other cultures that predate the Abrahamic traditions, and yes, that even predate "Dungeons and Dragons," a demon (Koine δαιμόνιον, basically referring to spirit or genius) is not the same thing as a "devil" (late Latin, diabolus: evil spirit, false god, diabolical person). In Vulgate, as in Greek, diabolus and dæmon were distinct, but they have merged in English and other Germanic languages. Take, for instance, the Greek Muse that inspired the genius of Homer to generate then compile The Odyssey. Would that be more Satan, more Lucifer, or something entirely other? It is cute how you condescendingly assert that meaning begins with the mythical death of Christ and so that neatly "wraps things up here," but I assure you that it doesn't. To argue that ancient esoteric ideas are nullified by your failure to comprehend a distinction between two fictional characters is rather slippery. Aside from that, one who knows that there was intellectual life and robust spiritual discourse BCE would find that assertion rather insulting. It would be like an American telling a European that there is no difference between a king and a tyrant because the Declaration of Independence says so. In short, an appeal to canonical beliefs does not establish some sort of authoritative knowledge.   DoYourHomework (talk) 14:34, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

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 * Thanks! I'm excited by the possibility that the community behind Wikitravel could get a second chance to achieve the goal of creating a free, complete, up-to-date and reliable worldwide travel guide.  Your efforts in helping to summarize comments in the RFC was much appreciated and (IMHO) very fair-minded. -- Wrh2 (talk) 08:33, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hi Ryan, I just went to your WT Talk page to try and make contact before the decks slipped beneath the waves. I found the link to your talk page here. All became apparent when I examined your recent edit history. I assume the usual suspects will start turning up here at WP fairly soon. cheers -- Felix (talk) 19:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

 * There is an effort underway to begin using Wikivoyage for collaboration now that IB is actively working to block mirroring of Wikitravel content - see ; note that collaboration efforts at Wikivoyage are still in the early stages. With respect to Wikitravel, while it is possible to modify the spider to backup Wikitravel content without use of the Mediawiki API, if Internet Brands is going to restrict efforts to mirror content, as they've done by refusing to even enable the Mediawiki API in read-only mode, then I'm no longer willing to make any contribution there, and I think many others feel similarly. -- Wrh2 (talk) 21:34, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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I keep a close eye on the articles for Minneapolis and Saint Paul; I've only made a few minor edits to them since August 2. I've also made some very minor edits to other articles (mostly routebox stuff), but it's not too big of a deal if it gets lost and I have to redo it. I've been refraining from making any edits to WT since you informed me about WT content no longer being backed up. I've also alerted Sumone10154 on his/her Wikipedia talk page about the WikiVoyage proposal; (s)he has already expressed support for the WMF Travel Guide (#502 on the RFC), but has made recent edits to Wikitravel and might be unaware of the backup issues. Currently looking to see if any other active non-admin WT users (that aren't spam accounts) have WP accounts. Eco84 | Talk 19:27, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for pressing this
After reading the New York Times article, I realize that the present lawsuit claim of tortious interference against you is based on the basic notion that we, as Wiki users - whether on Wikitravel, WikiHow, Encyclopedia Dramatica, countless other Wikis, or even here on Wikipedia - are in fact an asset, i.e. property, of the owners of the site, who can demand that we not be talked to, not told alternative outlets for our publication of material we choose to release under a CC license. For everyone on every Wiki in the world, we owe you a debt of gratitude for standing up to this unreasonable legal claim, in defense of our right to be free and unowned people. We did not join the free content movement to be somebody's property or to have our conversations subjected to somebody's censorship. Wnt (talk) 22:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

 * Thanks! I'm very grateful for the community support and most especially for the support that the WMF has provided, and hopefully after the litigation has run its course I'll be able to speak freely about this case. -- Wrh2 (talk) 23:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have just been reading up on the case, and wanted to drop by to offer my support, for what it's worth.
 * It appears to be a bullying attempt to prevent people from actually using the CC license. If content cannot be forked, the CC license would lose a lot of its value. I know that it's not fun being in the middle of a legal battle, but thank you persisting with this. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Greetings
Hello Ryan, I just wanted to make contact and say hello. I have the same user name on Wikipedia that I do on Wikitravel. Gamweb (talk) 06:09, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikitravel request for deletion immage
Hello, you are also a WikiTravel administrator? I uploaded an image of a coat of arms without license to Wikitravel not to Wikipedia. Sorry but I was a new User Wikitravel and I was inexpert. Would you please be so kind as to delete it for me please? Thank you very much!!! The URL is: http://wikitravel.org/it/File:ProvinciaMonza-Stemma.gif --Simonemb ( talk ) 10:27, 18 October 2012 (CEST)

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Just wanted to thank you for your helpful little edits, like the one for San Juan. Including an edit summary would keep them from being tagged as possible vandalism and disruption. Yours are too important to be left out. Thanks :) Caballero/Historiador (talk) 12:54, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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Reversion on Tulum
Also I forgot to mention that Wikipedia can't be a reference for Wikipedia articles. Senor Cuete (talk) 02:05, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I haven't added any Wikivoyage links as references. I would ask that you please read WP:Sister, as removing Wikivoyage sister project links while citing them as promotional is counter to the advice given in that Wikipedia guideline. -- Ryan • (talk) • 02:53, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Arenas del Rey
Hi Wrh2, I just opened an account specifically to address your account of Arenas del Rey which I see was edited 19 days ago. I live here as an ex pat Brit and I wonder whether your description of flourishing bars in the village (particularly the one that plays reggae music nights is eentirely accurate, ditto cafe' lining the shoreline (definitely not). Granted, it is currently winter and I understand it is all a bit more lively in the summer when the population expands slightly, but this village like many others in Spain is dying. It is populated by the elderly, and a few transient migrant workers from South America plus a few retired people like me from other European states - young people when they are old enough go to Granada or abroad to work, with quite a few going to the Balaeric isles to work for the summer season. The current population is around 600 whereas in the 1970's it was apparently about 3,000. I rather wonder when you visited Arenas del Rey last - should we revise the entry?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackrbt (talk • contribs) 08:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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Administrative divisions of Luxembourg

The Grand Duchy of Luxembourg is divided into cantons, which group the communes (=municipalities). A dozen of the communes have official city status, and one, Luxembourg City, is further divided into quarters (unofficial subdivision).

Districts
Luxembourg was divided into three districts until October 2015:
 * Diekirch
 * Grevenmacher
 * Luxembourg

Cantons
There are a total of 12 cantons, which were previously a subdivision of the districts but are now the first-level subdivision of Luxembourg.

Communes
The communes (municipalities) are the lowest administrative division in Luxembourg.

Cities
12 communes have legal city status, some since the early Middle Ages. The City of Luxembourg, the nation's capital, is the largest city in the country.

Quarters of Luxembourg City
Below the official administrative level of the commune, Luxembourg City has further unofficial administrative subdivisions, known as quarters. The twenty-four quarters of Luxembourg City are a de facto subdivision without legal basis used to simplify public administration.

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Printer Command Language

Printer Command Language, more commonly referred to as PCL, is a page description language (PDL) developed by Hewlett-Packard as a printer protocol and has become a de facto industry standard. Originally developed for early inkjet printers in 1984, PCL has been released in varying levels for thermal, matrix, and page printers. HP-GL/2 and PJL are supported by later versions of PCL.

PCL is occasionally and incorrectly said to be an abbreviation for Printer Control Language which actually is another term for page description language.

PCL levels 1 through 5 overview
PCL levels 1 through 5e/5c are command-based languages using control sequences that are processed and interpreted in the order they are received. At a consumer level, PCL data streams are generated by a print driver. PCL output can also be easily generated by custom applications.

 * PCL 1 was introduced in 1984 on the HP ThinkJet 2225 and provides basic text and graphics printing with a maximum resolution of 150 dpi (dots per inch).
 * PCL 1+ was released with the HP QuietJet 2227.
 * PCL 2 added Electronic Data Processing/Transaction functionality.
 * PCL 3 was introduced in 1984 with the original HP LaserJet. This added support for bitmap fonts and increased the maximum resolution to 300 dpi. Other products with PCL 3 support were the HP DeskJet ink jet printer, HP 2932 series matrix printers and HP RuggedWriter 2235 matrix printers. PCL 3 is still in use on several impact printers which replaced the obsolete HP models.
 * PCL 3+ (mono) and PCL 3c+ (color) are used on later HP DeskJet and HP PhotoSmart products.
 * PCL 3GUI is used in the HP DesignJet, some DeskJet series printers, and OfficeJet series printers. It uses a compressed raster format that is not compatible with standard PCL 3.
 * PCL 4 was introduced on the HP LaserJet Plus in 1985, adding macros, larger bitmapped fonts and graphics. PCL 4 is still popular for many applications.
 * PCL 5 was released on the HP LaserJet III in March 1990, adding Intellifont font scaling (developed by Compugraphic, now part of Agfa), outline fonts and HP-GL/2 (vector) graphics.
 * PCL 5e (PCL 5 enhanced) was released on the HP LaserJet 4 in October 1992 and added bi-directional communication between the printer and the PC and Windows fonts.
 * PCL 5c introduced color support on the HP PaintJet 300XL and HP Color LaserJet in 1992.

PCL 6 overview
HP introduced PCL 6 around 1995 with the HP LaserJet 4000 series printers. It consists of:

 * PCL 6 "Enhanced": An object-oriented PDL optimized for printing from GUI interfaces such as Windows and compressed to optimize throughput. Formerly known as PCL XL or PXL.
 * PCL 6 Standard: Equivalent to PCL 5e or PCL 5c, intended to provide backward compatibility.
 * Font synthesis: Provides scalable fonts, font management and storage of forms and fonts.

PCL 6 "Enhanced" architecture was altered to be more modular and to be more easily modified for future HP printers, that it prints complex graphics faster, that it reduces network traffic, and has higher quality. In early implementations, HP did not market PCL 6 well, thus causing some confusion in terminology. PCL XL was renamed to PCL 6 Enhanced, but many third-party products still use the older term.

Some products may claim to be PCL 6 compliant, but may not include the PCL 5 backward compatibility. PCL 6 Enhanced is primarily generated by the printer drivers under Windows and CUPS. Due to its structure and compression methodology, custom applications rarely use it directly.

PCL 6 Enhanced is a stack-based, object-oriented protocol, similar to PostScript. However, it is restricted to binary encoding as opposed to PostScript, which can be sent either as binary code or as plain text. The plain-text commands and code examples shown in the PCL programming documentation are meant to be compiled with a utility like HP's JetASM before being sent to a printer.

PCL 6 Enhanced is designed to match the drawing model of Windows GDI. In this way, the Windows printer driver simply passes through GDI commands with very little modification, leading to faster return-to-application times. Microsoft has extended this concept with its next-generation XPS format, and printer implementations of XPS are being developed. This is not a new idea: it is comparable with Display Postscript and Apple's Quartz, and is in contrast to "GDI Printers" where a compressed bitmap is sent to the printer.

Class 1.1

 * Draw tools: Support drawing lines, arcs/ellipses/chords, (rounded) rectangles, polygons, Bézier paths, clipped paths, raster images, scanlines, raster operations.
 * Color handling: Support 1/4/8-bit palettes, RGB/grey color space. Support custom halftone patterns (max 256 patterns).
 * Compression: Supports RLE.
 * Units of measurement: Inch, millimeter, tenth of millimeter.
 * Paper handling: Support custom or predefined sets of paper size, including common Letter, Legal, A4, etc. Can choose paper from manual feed, trays, cassettes. Paper can be duplexed horizontally or vertically. Paper can be oriented in portrait, landscape, or 180 degree rotation of the former two.
 * Font: Supports bitmap or TrueType fonts, 8 or 16-bit code points. Choosing character set uses different symbol set code from PCL 5. When bitmap font is used, many scaling commands are unavailable. When TrueType font is used, variable length descriptors, continuation blocks are not supported. Outline font can be rotated, scaled, or sheared.

Class 2.0

 * Compression: Added JPEG compression. A Proprietary variant of JPEG-like compression optimized for integer hardware called JetReady is used in a few HP Color Laserjet models (at the time of writing, 3 models, CLJ 3500, 3550, 3600). Those models require Class 3.0 inputs.
 * Paper handling: Media can redirected to different output bins (up to 256). Added A6 and Japanese B6 preset media sizes. Added Third cassette preset, 248 external tray media sources.
 * Font: Text can be written vertically.

Class 2.1

 * Color handling: Added Color matching feature.
 * Compression: Added Delta Row.
 * Paper handling: Orientation, media size are optional when declaring a new page. Added B5, JIS 8K, JIS 16K, JIS Exec paper sizes.

Class 2.2

 * Compression: Added JFIF.

Class 3.0

 * Color handling: Allow using different halftone settings for vector or raster graphics, text. Supports adaptive halftoning.
 * Protocol: Supports PCL passthrough, allowing PCL 5 features to be used by PCL 6 streams. However, some PCL 6 states are not preserved when using this feature.
 * Font: Supports PCL fonts.

JetReady printers (CLJ 3500/3550/3600) use undocumented extensions but otherwise mandate Class 3.0 inputs.

PJL overview
PJL (Printer Job Language) was introduced on the HP LaserJet IIIsi. PJL adds job level controls, such as printer language switching, job separation, environment commands, status feedback, device attendance and file system commands.

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Uncyclopedia
Absolutely. Maybe you didn't see it, but there's already a link on the top of the page. Of course, in true Wikipedia fashion, the original entry has already gotten modified and will continue to morph into something different from the original article. I'm sort of a Wikipedia critic myself, and enjoy how the Un tweaks the Wiki nose -- it could use more of that, as many on Pedia are unrighteously smug about what they do here, given the dismal quality and dare I say it, Uncyclopedic nature of the work. BTW, the Wikipedophiles article is my fav. Keep up the good work! Morton devonshire 00:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

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Skeevy indeed. Removed the whole section until I have time to wade through it. It may have good stuff in it, but it probably doesn't. – ClockworkSoul 12:46, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
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Mohammed Junaid Babar

Mohammed Junaid Babar is a Pakistani American who, after pleading guilty to terrorist related offences in New York, testified in March 2006 against a group of men accused of plotting 21 July 2005 London bombings. In return for being a government supergrass, his sentence was drastically reduced to time served and he was released leading to widespread criticism in Britain.

Early life
Babar was born in Pakistan. In 1977 Mohammed Babar moved to the United States with his family when he was two years old and grew up in Queens, New York. He attended a Military Academy, an all boy military boarding school on Long Island. He studied pharmacy at St. John's University in New York City but dropped out. He adopted radical views of Sunni Islam during the Gulf War when he was employed in a number of unskilled jobs including valet parking. He joined various groups including the al-Muhajiroun

Mohammed Babar's mother worked in the World Trade Center on the 9th floor and survived the terrorist attacks on September 11th. He supplied materials such as night vision goggles, sleeping bags, waterproof socks and ponchos and money to high-ranking al-Qaeda officials in South Waziristan. In the summer of 2003 he helped to set up a terrorist training camp where Mohammad Sidique Khan, the leader of the 2005 London suicide bombers, and several other British terrorists learned how to manufacture explosives.

Detention in America
He was arrested in New York City in April 2004 after his return from Pakistan, and on June 2, 2004, pleaded guilty to five counts of providing, and conspiring to provide, money and supplies to Al Qaeda terrorists fighting in Afghanistan against U.S., international forces, or the Northern Alliance. Facing up to 70 years in prison in U.S. he agreed to cooperate with authorities.

Operation Crevice
Babar was the star witness in the case against seven terrorist suspects arrested in Britain in March 2004 as part of Operation Crevice. He has been flown to London to give evidence in the case, and arrived at court amid heavy security, driven from a police station in an armoured convoy with a helicopter overhead. He had been given immunity from prosecution in relation to the charges the British defendants faced.

During his testimony he claimed to have been part of two separate attempts to kill General Pervez Musharraf in 2002 and admitted that he would be facing the death penalty in Pakistan if he was not working for the FBI. He also said that he had associated with Abu Hamza al-Masri and Omar Bakri Mohammed.

The prosecution claimed that Babar was part of the plot and had "an insight as an insider into the events and plans, which an outsider could not have." The counsel for the defence called Babar "a liar, nothing more than a conceited fantasist."

He also told a British court during 17 days of testimony in 2007 that he ran training camps in Pakistan for Islamic militants and nurtured a generation of homegrown British terrorists. Babar is still working with the British under a deal that he will not be charged as long as he cooperates.

Momin Khawaja
In 2008 Mohammed Babar testified in a trial against the accused Momin Khawaja, in Ottawa, Canada. Khawaja was accused of being involved with several terrorist plots, including the London nightclub incident. In light of Babar's attendance, security at the national capital courthouse was extremely tight, with bomb sniffing dogs, and metal detectors outside the building's premises.

Release
He initially faced up to 70 years in prison. However, after spending four years and eight months in prison, over a year of which in a high security section of MCC New York, he was released on bail in 2008. On 10 December 2010 his sentence was set to "time served". The reason given for his release was that he had agreed to cooperate fully with any investigation or prosecution by the U.S. Attorney's Office. According to the judge who set his sentence "Mr. Babar began cooperating even before his arrest." His early release raised suspicions among lawyers that Babar may have been an informant for the US government before his arrest in April 2004. This decision was widely criticized in Britain. In return for being a government supergrass his sentence was drastically reduced to time served and he was released.

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Cloud Nine (The Temptations album)

Cloud Nine is the ninth studio album by American musical group The Temptations for the Gordy (Motown) label released in 1969.

The album marked a major turning point in the group's career. It is the first full Temptations studio LP to feature Dennis Edwards as the replacement for David Ruffin, who was fired in June 1968. It also marked the beginning of the Temptations' delve into psychedelic soul under the ambitious direction of producer Norman Whitfield. The change in style polarized longtime fans but proved highly successful, with the album rising to number four on the Billboard Pop Albums Chart. It earned the group their first Grammy Award in 1969.

Background
Norman Whitfield took the Temptations into psychedelic territory after a suggestion from the group's de facto leader, Otis Williams. Williams had been discussing Sly & the Family Stone's music, and the changes it brought to the soul music industry, with his friend, producer Kenneth Gamble. Gamble agreed with Williams that Sly Stone's funkier production style and multi-lead vocals was here to stay and that it was time to learn to adapt to it.

While Williams, Whitfield, and Williams' then-wife Ann Cain were standing outside of the Casino Royale nightclub in Motown's home city of Detroit during the summer of 1968, Williams suggested that Whitfield might try to produce something like Sly & the Family Stone's "Dance to the Music" for their next single. The Temptations had been successful with romantic ballads such as "My Girl" and mid-tempo numbers such as "(I Know) I'm Losing You", but Williams, taking Gamble's advice, felt that it was time to update the group's sound. "Man, I don't want to be bothered with that shit," remarked Whitfield, who regarded the Family Stone sound as a "passing fancy".

Overview
Regardless of his original opinion of Sly Stone's work, by the fall of 1968, Whitfield had the Temptations recording "Cloud Nine", which featured all five members (Otis Williams, the newly drafted Dennis Edwards, and founding members Eddie Kendricks, Paul Williams, and Melvin Franklin) trading lead vocals over a Family Stone-like instrumental track. Although Otis Williams denies the connection, "Cloud Nine's" lyrics have frequently been cited as empathizing with drug use. The song seems to suggest that the best way for someone to deal with the problems that come with being poor and black in America was to "ride high on 'cloud nine'". "Cloud Nine" was a number six hit on the US pop singles chart, and a number two hit on the US R&B singles chart, and won Motown Records its first Grammy Award, for Best Rhythm & Blues Group Performance, Vocal or Instrumental.

The album's second single, "Run Away Child, Running Wild", delved further into unusual territory for the Temptations, turning a story about a lost runaway into a nine-minute epic of doo-wop vocals, droning organ lines, and hard-hitting drums similar to those typically heard in Sly & the Family Stone and James Brown records. Halfway through its running time, "Run Away Child" segues into an instrumental jam session (the single mix only includes the vocal half of the song). Future Temptations songs produced by Norman Whitfield, such as "Hum Along and Dance", "Smiling Faces Sometimes", and "Papa Was a Rollin' Stone", would further emphasize extended instrumental passages, often allowing said passages to overshadow the songs' vocals and as a result, The Temptations had him replaced by Jeffrey Bowen after the 1990 album.

"Run Away Child" was a number-one hit on the US R&B singles chart, and, like "Cloud Nine", a number six hit on the US pop chart. Earl Van Dyke, who performs the prominent organ solo during the instrumental section of the record, recorded his own instrumental version of "Run Away Child, Running Wild", which was released as a single the same year.

The rest of the Cloud Nine album is made up of more standard Temptations fare, most of which is relegated to the flip side of the LP. "Why Did She Have to Leave Me (Why Did She Have to Go)" features Dennis Edwards delivering a Ruffinesque lead on a slow ballad, and the Eddie Kendricks-led "I Need Your Lovin'" also finds the group in familiar surroundings. Edwards, Kendricks, and Melvin Franklin share the lead on "Love is a Hurtin' Thing", while "I Gotta Find a Way (To Get You Back)" is a showcase for Edwards alone. Paul Williams is given two solo numbers, "Hey Girl" and "Don't Let Him Take Your Love From Me", re-recorded as an upbeat single for The Four Tops the same year. The ballad "Gonna Keep on Tryin' Till I Win Your Love", led by Edwards, would later be re-recorded by the group in 1971 for the Sky's the Limit LP, with Kendricks on lead.

The one song that does not fit into either the ballads classification or the psychedelic soul classification is the Temptations' cover of the Gladys Knight & the Pips version of "I Heard It Through the Grapevine". Stripped to its rhythm track, the Temptation's version of "Grapevine" retains the tempo of Knight's hit version, but uses a less gospel based and more pop/blues based vocal arrangement.

After receiving positive critical reception for his new production style, and winning the Temptations a Grammy with "Cloud Nine", Whitfield would take the Temptations even further away from "My Girl" and onwards towards trippier singles such as "Don't Let the Joneses Get You Down", the #1 hit "I Can't Get Next to You", "Psychedelic Shack", and "Ball of Confusion (That's What the World Is Today)".

Unreleased track

 * "Dinah" (Smokey Robinson, Al Cleveland) (lead singer: Eddie Kendricks) - produced by Smokey Robinson - subsequently released on Lost and Found: You've Got to Earn It (1962–1968).

Personnel

 * The Temptations
 * Dennis Edwards – vocals (tenor/baritone)
 * Eddie Kendricks – vocals (tenor/falsetto)
 * Paul Williams – vocals (baritone)
 * Melvin Franklin – vocals (bass)
 * Otis Williams – vocals (second tenor)

Singles history

 * "Cloud Nine"
 * Gordy single 7081, October 25, 1968; b-side: "Why Did She Have to Leave Me (Why Did She Have to Go)"
 * 1969 Grammy Award Winner: Best Rhythm & Blues Group Performance, Vocal or Instrumental
 * "Run Away Child, Running Wild"
 * Gordy single 7084, January 30, 1969; b-side: "I Need Your Lovin'"

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Towson High School

Towson High School is a high school in Baltimore County, Maryland, United States, founded in 1873. The school's current stone structure was built in 1949. Located in the northern Baltimore suburb of Towson and serving the surrounding communities of Towson, Lutherville, and Ruxton, it is part of the Baltimore County Public Schools system, the 25th largest school system in the nation as of 2005. Area middle schools that feed into Towson High are Dumbarton Middle School, Ridgely Middle School, and Loch Raven Technical Academy, although students from other areas attend the Law and Public Policy magnet school.

Academics
Towson High school received a 63.8 out of a possible 90 points (70%) on the 2018-2019 Maryland State Department of Education Report Card and received a 4 out of 5 star rating, ranking in the 74th percentile among all Maryland schools.

The school has risen steadily in Newsweek's annual nationwide high school survey during the five-year period culminating in its No. 246 ranking in 2008, having previously placed No. 292 in 2007, No. 317 in 2006, No. 452 in 2005, and No. 511 in 2003. Following publication of the magazine's survey in May 2008, Towson High's then-principal Jane Barranger, said: "I'm very proud of our parents and our kids and our teachers. It takes all of their efforts to make sure that students are prepared to take challenging tests." Barranger retired in June, 2013, after 12 years as the school's principal, succeeded by Charlene DiMino, the current principal. In its 2019 survey of STEM programs, Newsweek ranked Towson #310 among US high schools.

Law and Public Policy Program
The law magnet requires seven total law credits, which can be obtained within the span of four years by approved courses. In the 9th grade, students take AP American Government and Politics and Introduction to Law. In 10th grade, students take a Trial Advocacy and Criminal Law course in a classroom that replicates a courtroom, complete with witness box, jury box, defense/prosecution tables, etc. In the next two years, students can choose from a variety of electives, including Latin, forensic science, philosophy, international law, AP Government, and other law-related courses to fulfill the remaining law credits required for graduation in accordance with the Law and Public Policy magnet.

Students
The 2020-2021 enrollment at Towson High School was 1677 students. One-fifth of its students are Black, 8.5 percent are Asian American and 6.6 percent are Hispanic. On average Towson students score above the rest of the county and state on standardized tests.

History
Towson High School was originally located on East Chesapeake Avenue, in a small brick structure built in 1873. When it burned down in 1906, a replacement was built on Allegheny Avenue. In 1925, the high school moved to a larger 3-story brick structure at an adjacent site on Central Avenue and the vacated building was converted into an elementary school. This old Allegheny Avenue building still stands today, now used for County offices.

Construction of Towson High School's present-day campus on the grounds of the old Aigburth Vale estate began in the late 1940s, as the Towson area's population surged upward following World War II. The Aigburth Vale house, still standing near the school's athletic field, was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 1999.

When the current campus at Cedar and Aigburth Avenues opened as Towson Senior High School in 1949, the former Central Avenue building became a Junior High School for grades 7 and 8 and, later, Towson Elementary School. It is now a senior citizen center.

Towson High's current campus underwent a renovation from 1996 to 1999. Classrooms were rebuilt to be smaller, air conditioning was retrofitted, and all exterior doors and windows were replaced.

With the end of racial segregation in Baltimore County public schools in 1954, the African-American student body of the old Carver High School on York Road (now the George Washington Carver Center for Arts and Technology magnet school) was merged with Towson High School.

Structure
The present 5-level stone structure completed in 1949 includes a large auditorium with theater-style seating, a gymnasium, and a cafeteria. Classrooms are on the lower three floors. The fourth floor was originally used for administrative offices, then became an art studio, and currently contains two classrooms and a computer lab. The fifth floor of the school can not be used for classes as it would not comply with fire codes for proper evacuation. It is used to store books, and is occasionally used as an office. In the early 1960s, the fifth floor was also used by a student-operated ham radio station.

The library and science wing were added in the mid-1960s and the entire school underwent extensive upgrading in the late 1990s, including the installation of modern heating and air conditioning. In 2006, the historic stone structure was designated a Landmark by the Baltimore County Landmarks Preservation Commission. The school exceeded its state-rated capacity of 1,260 pupils in 2007, according to enrollment figures. By 2018, the school exceeded design capacity by approximately 300 students, using portable structures to accommodate the overflow. Various solutions to the overcrowding problem, including the possibility of one or more new schools, have been proposed. The Baltimore County Board of Education included funding for replacement buildings for Towson and Dulaney High School in its overall capital budget request of $216 million for Fiscal Year 2020, renewing the request in its FY2021 budget submittal to the state of Maryland for appropriation.

Athletics
The "Generals" have won the following Maryland state championships:

Michael Phelps, as a 15-year-old student at Towson High School, competed in the 2000 Olympics, the youngest American male swimmer to do so, and in 2001 he became the youngest man ever to set a world record in swimming.

The traditional rivals of Towson High School's Generals are the Lions of nearby Dulaney High School.

Notable alumni
The school's alumni association, founded in 1907, says it is "one of the oldest, continuous, public school alumni associations in the U.S.". Well-known alumni include:
 * Harry Streett Baldwin (1912) - politician
 * Raymond Ward Bissell - art historian and Professor of Art History at the University of Michigan
 * Ting Cui – (2020) - figure skater
 * Elizabeth Evitts Dickinson — writer
 * Jean Marie Donnell (1938) - movie and TV actress
 * John F. Eisold (1964) - U.S. Navy rear admiral and attending physician of the United States Congress
 * Evan Farmer - actor / TV personality
 * Joyce Hens Green - Federal judge
 * Billy Jones – first black basketball player in the ACC
 * Andy Karl – singer/actor in seven Broadway shows
 * James M. Kelly – special assistant to President Bush, formerly a Maryland House Delegate
 * Harris Glenn Milstead (1963) – drag queen, actor and singer better known as 'Divine'
 * Ellen O. Moyer – politician
 * Lowell Blair Nesbitt (1951) – painter
 * Ken Ono – mathematician and film producer
 * Santa J. Ono – immunologist and President University of Michigan, President, University of British Columbia, Past President University of Cincinnati
 * Michael Phelps (2003) – 28-time Olympic medalist and swimming world record holder
 * Mary Watters Risteau (1907) – first woman elected to the Maryland House of Delegates, first woman elected to the Maryland Senate
 * William Rush (did not graduate) – member of the Maryland House of Delegates
 * Ellen Sauerbrey (1955) – politician
 * Dan Szymborski (1996) – sports statistician
 * Jack Thomas (1970) - All-American Lacrosse Player
 * Derek Waters (1998) - actor, comedian, writer and creator of Drunk History

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rigmare

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy delete. HappyCamper 06:00, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Rigmare
Neologism. Zero relevant Google hits. Bovlb 06:13:02, 2005-08-26 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete, i've added it to speedies as well. Non-notable, wikipedia is not a dictionary --Werdna648 07:32, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Self-confessed neologism. Andrewa 11:31, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.

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User talk:Mindspillage/2005archive5

This is an archive of my talk page from June 2005. Please add new messages to my current page.

Ed, Edd, n Eddy
Hi, thanks for the note. No problem, it wasn't necessarily that difficult, took a bit of time, but thats fine. Although I know nothing of the show, just looked like something that had to be condensed/merged. Anyhoo, thanks for closing the Vfd, I'm sure you had plenty others to do that day.
 * <>Who 00:25, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank You
What a year! My first year in Wiki, a featured article and now administrator. Thank you for your support. I want to give you a special thanks for your kind comments during my nomination. You are blessed with wisdom and I'm proud to have gotten to know you through Wikipedia Tony the Marine

IFD
Thanks for the update. With the recent decision by Jimbo, I agree that all unverified pics have to be deleted. Thanks for the good work. -- Chris 73 Talk 11:21, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey Kat, thanks for your kind words, and vote in support of my admin nomination. Paul August ☎ 13:17, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Re:FlaBot
User:FlaBot is not permitted to run as a bot until the person in charge resolves any problems with the bot. The bot should not be removing Interwiki links. This is user F l a b o t, not the impersonator. The bot was blocked due to the unresolved issues. I will cite my examples:, , , , , , , ... the list can go on. I don't know how many of these are valid or invalid. I do know for certain that the edit made at Doraemon was incorrect and made by User:FlaBot not by User:FIaBot. See for proof. I know enough Chinese to know that interwiki link to the Chinese version of Doraemon was correct. I don't you have carefully looked over the edits and why my block was active. Furthermore, a bot owner must make all edits under a separate account different from the bot account, which is bot policy. If Flacus / FlaBot wishes to post on the English Wikipedia, he should sign up for an account for himself as Flacus and post all replies under user Flacus or otherwise stay anonymous. I am blocking the account again per bot policy until all resolved issues are resolved. This block was not due to impersonation... unless the Wiki code borked and confused between two users which I don't think it did. It was blocked because the bot was removing interwiki links, not because an impersonator was doing that. -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:38, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, I find it highly suspicious that the contributions of the said impersonator F I a B o t (with the letter I, as in I for Impersonator) occurred 18 hours after I blocked FlaBot (with the letter L, as in L for Liar). -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:57, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It's okay. Everyone makes mistakes... Administrators are not infallible people either. I'm just extremely careful when I use my administrative powers and check all my facts before taking any action. -- AllyUnion (talk) 20:43, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CWRU music
Hi, thanks for keeping me informed about the status of the CWRU music scene article; I've brought this up in discussion at Talk:Case_Western_Reserve_University; is it the conclusion of the VfD on the music scene article that the list has no business in any part of wikipedia, or could it be somehow condensed and listed at the main CWRU article in the music section? If there's no way it can appear on wikipedia, then I suppose I can try to put it on wikicities somewhere, though I doubt there's anywhere it would really fit. I'm not interested (anymore) in having a writeup for each band, but a comprehensive list of musical performance groups that have ongoing recruitment efforts (read: not just garage bands that come and go, but consistently recruiting groups that have existed for at least 3-5 years) would be nice, in my opinion. Let me know what you think. - Mark McCartney (talk) 16:05, 2005 Jun 4 (UTC)

Last Tango in the Sistine Chapel
Greetings! Yes indeed I will listen... (are you all four? I presume)  Ironically, at work I have this glorious T1 line all to myself, but alas no sound card! I'll check it out when I get home tonight. Btw I'll be at the Ojai festival for four days later this week ... don't worry, I haven't left Wikipedia ... :-) Antandrus  (talk)  20:37, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

My RFA: Thanks
Thank you for your support on my RFA. Now that I have been promoted, I promise to be as hardworking and fair with the admin tools as I have been with the other areas here on Wikipedia. See you around and happy editing. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Looking for a second opinion
When you get a moment, could you check out Language of dna? Beware: paragraph breaks don't exist there! It really looks like original research/opinion to me, especially when you look at the webpage I noted on the talk page. However, I thought I'd get another opinion before I toss it at VfD. Joyous 05:25, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the opinion. It has now been tossed at VfD.  Joyous 05:54, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC)

VfD
Well, that's what you get for asking people to help out. --Michael Snow 05:35, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Lucky Octavian
Can you reconsider reopening this debate or changing the result on it? It has been speedily undeleted since it was deleted by mistake. Sjakkalle (Check!)  06:57, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Josquin
Very fine indeed! I appreciate your ability to play in tune. (Nice high D, by the way.) I never, ever thought of it before, but an ensemble of bassoons works very well for performance of Renaissance polyphony. Good job! Antandrus (talk)  02:23, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Same from me, thanks for sharing. --Michael Snow 05:57, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_ >|< 08:02, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Maxwell's nonlinear equations
Um...you seem to have closed this vfd as delete, but it's still there... ;) sjorford →•← 08:23, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Popcorn Consensus
I don't want to make a big thing out of this, but I notice that you deleted "Popcorn trick" based on a 18-4 vote. That works out to 78% in favor of deletion. I've seen other admins insist that there has to be at least 85% in favor for there to be a consensus. Even though I voted "Keep" myself, I'm not particularly bothered by the loss of this article -- it's not as if the Trick cries out for documentation! But I am bothered by the subjective and inconsistent application of the consensus rule. Isaac R 17:53, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

OK, I guess I agree with your overall philosophy. But I have to say I find the whole "consensus" process deeply unsatisfying. Only a few people bother to participate at all, and half of those don't seem to understand that they're not participating in a head-count. So basically, all "consensus" means is any decision that stimulates vocal opposition is blocked. Isaac R 22:47, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Images for Deletion

 * copied from User talk:Lommer

Greetings! I listed an image on IFD a while back that were unverified and obsoleted by better-quality GFDL pics on commons. Your edit summary removing it from the page states "rm deleted images", but Image:Fagot.jpg wasn't deleted. Was this an oversight, or was there reason to keep? (The reason I'm concerned is that I suspect it's a copyvio, but cannot prove it: I'd rather it not hang around when there are better copylefted shots on Commons to replace it.) Thanks, and nice work clearing out the backlog; I know it's generally a thankless task. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:35, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi, sorry about that - thanks for keeping such a close eye on it. Yes it was an oversight, that was right around the time of the server move and it was pretty difficult getting the system to delete images when it was so overloaded. I've deleted it now — I'll have to check and make sure no others fell through the cracks. -Lommer | talk 01:18, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

An old VfD vote
The vote that you closed - Votes for deletion/Dieter Goels seems to be not only for Dieter Goels, but for New Situationist Movement and Otto Jungt as well. These two articles are still marked with {vfd} tag and probably should be deleted.  Grue  15:00, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Hey Mind!

This is really way overdue, but I want to thank you for all of the help and support you provided on my RFA (including the support vote). I just graduated from high school, so I'm going around and thanking everyone that needs to be thanked. Frankly, you're high up on that list. Thanks for everything, and I hope that we keep in contact!! Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 23:07, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

RfA
Many thanks for supporting my administrative nomination- I sincerely will try to live up to the good words though!... (edit: as an editor and if the vote is successful then as an admin, that is.) Schissel : bowl listen 00:41, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

assistance with VFD errata
I've found a couple of problems with incorrect/incomplete VFD nominations I hope you can help me with.

Andres Gimeno and Howard Kinsey are redirects but they have VFD tags; except that the VFD never had step 3 done so they'll never get finished. On the other hand since they are redirects they don't go to VFD. Can you just declare the VFD invalid and remove the VFD tag? (These are some created by User:Maymashu, I think you did this for some of the other redirects this user nominated.)

Vinnie Richards does have an article. Step 3 of the nomination process wasn't done but there are three votes on the VFD subpage anyways. (Looks like a keep.) The current article was written after the nomination to replace a redirect. I can complete the nomination process if you think this is the best way to clean this one up. But soemthing needs to be done so eventually tyhe VFD tag gets removed.

Thank you, RJFJR 02:32, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

more
I've got another one: Arto Tuncboyaciyan was tagged on June 12 by User:TheParanoidOne but neither step 2 nor 3 were performed. I was going to complete the nomination but I don't know what criteria was being proposed and it looks like a valid article with notability (9070 googles). Since step 2 was never performed can it be cancelled and the VFD tag removed? RJFJR 02:57, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC) Correction, it was a move so the template doesn't point to the correct sub page. I'll fix it. RJFJR 03:04, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I've finished the nomination for Vinnie Richards with no vote implied. RJFJR 03:23, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Theo RFA
Thank you for your delightful praise and for supporting my nomination. No wonder I always admired your insight.—Theo (Talk) 10:57, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

My RFA: Thanks
Hi Mindspillage! Thanks for supporting my adminship nomination! We'll see if I can start closing some of the deletes as well soon. Sjakkalle (Check!)  13:14, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for supporting me on my RfA. It's always nice to get some positive feedback. I hope I can put my new abilities to some good use. -- grm_wnr Esc  17:44, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Double thanks!
Hi! Nice to be back after a month and a half. Tried to go two months only because Raul654 talked me into it...nope. Trolls and vandals should still beware but I'll be trying to lavish some wiki-attention on either expanding my existing articles, adding new ones and fixing up some incoming nanostubs. I always enjoy hearing from you. Don't be a stranger! Best, Lucky 6.9 17:56, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

86 (MBTA bus)
I'm letting you know that I've "restored" but completely changed and expanded this article, as I somehow missed the VFD despite being a regular reader of VFD. I believe the new article addresses the concerns brought up in the VFD, and can be expanded even more in the future (for instance the history of streetcars along that route, which I haven't been able to find information about, except that they existed). I have explained my actions on Talk:86 (MBTA bus). --SPUI (talk) 23:37, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much for the nomination and kind words on my RfA. I appreciate it greatly. Regards, Bratsche talk  5 pillars 14:37, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

Magnus es tu, Domine
You're a bit off tempo 8" and 56" into the song, you go into the break a bit too hastly, you're falling off rather quickly. you should keep the note more by an 1/8th or so. This is supposed to be played along with someone singing it, right? so, keep a tab on your breathing. otherwise, beautifuly done. The clicking noise in the background. is that your chronograph? Project2501a 08:20, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * You're probably hearing a little keyclacking, she played against a clicktrack (a must while multitracking) but it's inaudible. I loaded the original wav against the tempo, and the return at 8" is accurate to the beat within about 36 samples in the 96k version judging from where the signal leaves the noise floor. It's harder to tell later since it's after the meter change, I'd have to program the meter change and remember the new tempo I set. I imagine you were expecting a little more rubato. But keep in mind this music was ment to be sung in a cathedral with a necessarily long RT60... I wish ambisonic surround systems were popular in homes so I could really let you expirence what the room should sound like... the sound of a beautiful room decaying around you after a sudden pause in the music really makes you appreciate why it would have been composed with one.. it's a breathtaking experience... at least if you bother to listen. Gmaxwell 01:26, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Much belated thanks.
Thank you for supporting my RFA! Since then, family issues have unfortunately taken a lot of the energy that I would rather spend on Wikipedia. It's getting to a point where I can get back into my "normal" (ha!) routine, so I plan to wield the ol' mop more actively. Thanks again! FreplySpang (talk) 22:53, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Must have been late
LOL! Thanks for completing the reference ... ::hic:: Antandrus  (talk)  22:17, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * That's funny... I just got an edit conflict on the category talk page, I was writing almost exactly the same thing as you... LOL again. Best laugh I've had in a long time.  Have a good day! Antandrus  (talk)  14:49, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, plus usual shameless composer self-promotion
Hello, Kat, glad to meet you, and thanks for the tips. I have a piece for solo bassoon with flute, violin, and piano accompaniment, called New World Coming - written just before 9/11, strangely enough. You can download a PDF at http://www.kylegann.com/Gannscores.html if you're curious. I've been friends with several bassoonists. Cheers, Kylegann 28 June 2005 11:48 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the warm welcome - glad to know I'm in good double-reeded company! I'm afraid I've actually not heard any Jurriaan Andriessen, though from your description it looks like I should check it out. Louis is definitely worth getting to know - very distinctive. In particular I think 'De Staat', 'De Stijl' and 'Hadewijch' (the last two 2 parts of his big set 'De Materie') are really worth listening to. Thanks again for the warm welcome! Hutchies 28 June 2005 16:23 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Thanks for your support for my adminship. I'm looking forward to never writing "rv vandalsim" again - especially since I always mistype "vandalism" in edit summaries. Cheers, -Willmcw June 28, 2005 18:30 (UTC)

Thank you
Mindspillage, I just wanted to thank you for the kind words on my talk page. I'm planning to concentrate on finding some of those nicer places among the "dusty corners and hidden alcoves of Wikipedia". Thanks. :)

P.S. There is just no real point in trying to stay away from this place, is there? There really is such a thing as wikipediholism. func (talk) 29 June 2005 23:50 (UTC)

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Bus 174

Bus 174 (Ônibus 174) is a 2002 Brazilian documentary film. It is the directorial debut of director José Padilha and co-director Felipe Lacerda.

Overview
In 2000, Sandro do Nascimento, a young man from a poor background, held passengers on a bus hostage for four hours. The event was caught live on television. The movie examines the incident and life in the slums and favelas of Rio de Janeiro and how the criminal justice system in Brazil treats the lower classes. Padilha in the film talks to former and current street children, Rio police officers, the Rio BOPE police tactical unit, Nascimento's family members and sociologists to gain insight into what led Nascimento to carry out the hijacking.

People involved

 * Sandro
 * Julieta (aunt)
 * Dona Elza (adopted mother)
 * Janaina (hostage)
 * Willians (hostage)
 * Lucianna (hostage)
 * Luciana (hostage)
 * Daviana (hostage)
 * Geisa (hostage)
 * Soares (sociologist)
 * Yvonne (social worker)

Distribution
Bus 174's distribution was supported mainly by U.S. distributor Cinemax Reel Life (HBO), and ThinkFilm. With the rise of U.S. distribution companies in Brazil, some say that domestic success of the film hinged on their support or that of Gob Filmes, a film production company founded in 1990 by Globo Television Networks.

After its release in 2002 at the São Paulo Film Festival, Bus 174 was shown around the world, in many films festivals from Rio de Janeiro to Netherlands, and the Philippines. It received critical acclaim, and was presented with awards such as the 2004 Peabody Award and the Amnesty Award, in the Netherlands.

The film has also been featured as an Official Selection at the multiple film festivals including:

 * Palm Springs (2004)
 * Vancouver (2003)
 * Sundance (2003)
 * Starz Denver (2003)
 * Sydney (2003)
 * San Francisco (2003)

Reception
Bus 174 was voted "one of the ten best films of the year" by The New York Times. It has won over 23 prizes worldwide, including an Emmy Award for Outstanding Cultural & Artistic Programming in 2005 (after being shown on HBO/Cinemax with great success), and the Amnesty Award in the Netherlands and a Peabody Award.

On the review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 96%, based on 79 reviews, with an average rating of 8.2/10. The website's consensus reads, "Bus 174 uses real-life tragedy as the grist for a gripping -- and terribly thought-provoking -- look at societal tensions and police violence." On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 83 out of 100, based on 27 critics, indicating "universal acclaim".

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User talk:Chris Lovell

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25th Daytime Emmy Awards

The 25th Daytime Emmy Awards were held in 1998 to commemorate excellence in daytime programming from the previous year (1997).

Winners in each category are in bold. Just like the previous year, the 25th Daytime Emmy Awards were held at Radio City Music Hall in New York City.

Outstanding Drama Series

 * All My Children
 * Days of Our Lives
 * General Hospital
 * The Young and the Restless

Outstanding Lead Actor

 * Peter Bergman (Jack Abbott, The Young and the Restless)
 * Eric Braeden (Victor Newman, The Young and the Restless)
 * David Canary (Adam Chandler/Stuart Chandler, All My Children)
 * Anthony Geary (Luke Spencer, General Hospital)
 * Kin Shriner (Scott Baldwin, Port Charles)

Outstanding Lead Actress

 * Eileen Davidson (Kristen Blake, Days of Our Lives)
 * Susan Lucci (Erica Kane, All My Children)
 * Cynthia Watros (Annie Dutton, Guiding Light)
 * Jacklyn Zeman (Bobbie Spencer, General Hospital)
 * Kim Zimmer (Reva Shayne, Guiding Light)

Outstanding Supporting Actor

 * Grant Aleksander (Phillip Spaulding, Guiding Light)
 * Ian Buchanan (James Warwick, The Bold and the Beautiful)
 * Steve Burton (Jason Morgan, General Hospital)
 * Michael E. Knight (Tad Martin, All My Children)
 * Scott Reeves (Ryan McNeil, The Young and the Restless)

Outstanding Supporting Actress

 * Julia Barr (Brooke English, All My Children)
 * Amy Carlson (Josie Watts, Another World)
 * Amy Ecklund (Abigail Blume, Guiding Light)
 * Vanessa Marcil (Brenda Barrett, General Hospital)
 * Victoria Rowell (Drucilla Winters, The Young and the Restless)

Outstanding Younger Actor

 * Jensen Ackles (Eric Brady, Days of Our Lives)
 * Tyler Christopher (Nikolas Cassadine, General Hospital)
 * Jonathan Jackson (Lucky Spencer, General Hospital)
 * Bryant Jones (Nate Hastings, The Young and the Restless)
 * Kevin Mambo (Marcus Williams, Guiding Light)
 * Joshua Morrow (Nicholas Newman, The Young and the Restless)

Outstanding Younger Actress

 * Sarah Brown (Carly Benson, General Hospital)
 * Christie Clark (Carrie Brady, Days of Our Lives)
 * Camryn Grimes (Cassie Newman, The Young and the Restless)
 * Rhonda Ross Kendrick (Toni Burrell, Another World)
 * Heather Tom (Victoria Newman, The Young and the Restless)

Outstanding Drama Series Writing Team

 * All My Children
 * Days of Our Lives
 * General Hospital
 * The Young and the Restless

Outstanding Drama Series Directing Team

 * All My Children
 * Days of Our Lives
 * General Hospital
 * The Young and the Restless

Outstanding Talk Show

 * Leeza: Leeza Gibbons, Donna Harrison, Rudy Guido, Jill Mullikin-Bates, Kathy Giaconia, Shantel Klinger, Julie Laughlin, Tracy Mazuer, Julie Ross, Marilyn Zielinski
 * Live with Regis & Kathie Lee: Michael Gelman, Delores Spruell-Jackson, Joanne Saltzman, Barbara Fight, Cindy MacDonald, David Mullen, Dana Dodge, Mariann Sabol-Nieves
 * The Oprah Winfrey Show: Dianne Atkinson Hudson, Oprah Winfrey, David Boul, Alice McGee, Dana Newton, Ellen Rakieten, Mollie Allen, Kandi Amelon, Amy Craig, Katy Murphy Davis, Angie Kraus, Laura Grant Sillars, Jill Van Lokeren
 * The Rosie O'Donnell Show: Rosie O'Donnell, Hilary Estey McLoughlin, Bernie Young, Andy Lassner, Mimi Pizzi, David Perler, Dierdre Dod, Lisa Rechsteiner, Corin Nelson, Judy Gold, Joy Trapani, Janette Barber, Krysia Plonka
 * The View: Bill Geddie, Barbara Walters, Jessica Stedman Guff, Roni Selig, Rebecca Biderman, Allison Kluger, Sue Podbielski, Alexandra Cohen, Donald Berman, Sue Solomon, Erin Saxton, Mindy Moore, William Kearney, Ann Marie Williams Gray, Jakki Taylor

Outstanding Game Show

 * Jeopardy!
 * Pictionary
 * Win Ben Stein's Money
 * Wheel of Fortune
 * The Price is Right

Outstanding Game Show Host

 * Pat Sajak (Wheel of Fortune)
 * Bob Barker (The Price is Right)
 * Alex Trebek (Jeopardy!)

Outstanding Service Show

 * The Pet Department — Rickie Gaffney, executive producer; Teresa Pawlowski, producer (FX).
 * Martha Stewart Living — Martha Stewart, executive producer; Carolyn Kelly, senior producer; Brook Altman, producer (syn).
 * The New Yankee Workshop — Russell Morash, executive producer (PBS).
 * Newton’s Apple — Richard Hudson, Lee Carey, executive producers; Kristian Berg, Lisa Blackstone, Jeff Nielsen, Erin Rasmussen, Kevin Williams, producers (PBS).
 * This Old House — Russell Morash, executive producer; Bruce Irving, producer (PBS).

Outstanding Children's Special

 * Louis Gossett Jr., Hillard Elkins, Dan Redler and Patrick Whitley (In His Father's Shoes)
 * Helen Holt and Jeanine Isabel Butler (Assignment Discovery: The Science of HIV)
 * Sheila Nevins, Susan Hannah Hadary and William A. Whiteford (Bong & Donnell)
 * Carlyle Kyzer (Letters from Africa)
 * Paula Connelly Skorka, Howard Meltzer, Frank Doelger and Jonathan Stern (The Royale)

Outstanding Performer in a Children's Special

 * Robert Ri'chard (Clay Crosby, In His Father's Shoes)

Outstanding Performer In An Animated Program

 * Louie Anderson (Louis Anderson and Andy Anderson, Life with Louie)
 * Robin Williams (Genie, Great Minds Think for Themselves)
 * Lily Tomlin (Valerie Felicity Frizzle, The Magic School Bus)
 * Maurice LaMarche (Brain, Pinky and the Brain)
 * Rob Paulsen (Pinky, Pinky and the Brain)

Outstanding Music Direction and Composition

 * Richard Stone, Steven Bernstein, Julie Bernstein, and Gordon Goodwin (Animaniacs)
 * Charles Fernandez Ron Grant, Harvey Cohen and Bruce Babcock (The Spooktacular New Adventures of Casper)
 * Julie Bernstein, Steven Bernstein, Richard Stone, Tim Kelly, Carl Johnson (Pinky and the Brain)
 * John McDaniel (The Rosie O'Donnell Show)
 * Shirley Walker (The Batman Superman Movie: World's Finest)

Outstanding Children's Animated Program

 * Micheline Charest, Carol Greenwald, Ronald A. Weinberg, Cassandra Schafhausen, Lesley Taylor, Ken Scarborough, Joe Fallon, Peter K. Hirsch and Greg Bailey (Arthur)
 * Liz Holzman, Wendell Morris, Jed Spingarn, Nelson Recinos, Kirk Tingblad, Charles Visser, Andrea Romano, Steven Spielberg, Russell Calabrese, Earl Kress, Mike Milo, Tom Ruegger, Charles M. Howell IV, Rusty Mills, Tom Sheppard (Pinky and the Brain)
 * David Campbell, Tony Craig, Roberts Gannaway, Cydne Clark, Steve Granat, Carin Greenberg Baker, Martha Ripp, Ken Boyer, Victor Cook, Skip Jones, Rick Schneider, Peter Ferk, Don Gillies, Ken Koonce, Michael Merton and Bruce Shelly (101 Dalmatians: The Series)
 * Steven Spielberg, Tom Ruegger, Rusty Mills, Liz Holzman, Andrea Romano, Mike Milo, Jon McClenahan, Charles M. Howell IV, Randy Rogel, Kevin Hopps, Gordon Bressack, Nick Dubois and Tom Minton (Animaniacs)
 * Kristin Laskas Martin, Karen Stevens, Jocelyn Stevenson, George Arthur Bloom, Vince Commisso, Larry Jacobs and Susan Blu (The Magic School Bus)

Outstanding Special Class Animated Program

 * Jean MacCurdy, Alan Burnett, Paul Dini, Bruce W. Timm, Hilary Bader, Stan Berkowitz, Rich Fogel, Steve Gerber, Bob Goodman, Hiroyuki Aoyama, Curt Geda, Kenji Hachizaki, Butch Lukic, Toshihiko Masuda, Dan Riba, Andrea Romano and Yuichiro Yano (The New Batman/Superman Adventures)
 * Gary Katona, Ed Wexler, Lance Khazei, Mark McCorkle, Robert Schooley, Michael Karnow, and Gary Sperling (Great Minds Think for Themselves)
 * Jean MacCurdy, Tom Minton, James T. Walker, Tim Cahill, Julie McNally Cahill, Karl Toerge, Andrea Romano, and Al Zegler (The Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries)
 * Andy Heyward, Michael Maliani, Robby London, Christopher Hallowell, Eddie Fitzgerald, Mike Fontanelli, Janice Sonski, Daniël Shwall, Christian Choquet, Marsha Goodman, Paul F. Quinn, Lisa Schaffer, Jeffrey Scott, Henry Gilroy, and Jymn Magon (The Wacky World of Tex Avery)

Outstanding Writing in a Children's Series

 * Erren Gottlieb, James McKenna, Bill Nye, Michael Gross, Darrell Suto, Scott Schaefer, Kit Boss, Lynn Brunelle, Michael Palleschi, Ian G. Saunders, and Simon Griffith (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
 * Molly Boylan, Lou Berger, Sara Compton, Annie Evans, Christine Ferraro, Judy Freudberg, Tony Geiss, Ian Ellis James, Emily Perl Kingsley, David Korr, Sonia Manzano, Joey Mazzarino, Jeff Moss, Cathi Turow, Adam Rudman, Nancy Sans, Luis Santeiro, Josh Selig, Belinda Ward, John Weidman, and Mo Willems (Sesame Street)
 * Fred Rogers (Mister Rogers' Neighborhood)
 * Linda Ellerbee, and Walt McGraw (Nick News with Linda Ellerbee)
 * Ronnie Krauss, Jill Gluckson, Billy Aronson, and McPaul Smith (Reading Rainbow)

Outstanding Performer in a Children's Series

 * Bill Nye (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
 * Fred Rogers (Mister Rogers' Neighborhood)
 * LeVar Burton (Reading Rainbow)
 * Caroll Spinney (Sesame Street)
 * Lynne Thigpen (Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?)

Outstanding Sound Editing

 * Dave Howe, Thomas McGurk, Michael McAuliffe (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
 * Anna MacKenzie, Rick Hinson, Ray Spiess, William H. Angarola, Mark Cleary, Mike Marchain, Cindy Rabideau and Robert Guastini (Crayola Kids Adventures)
 * Denise Brady, Anna MacKenzie, Mike Marchain, William H. Angarola, Raymond E. Spiess III, Cindy Rabideau, Ray Spiess and Robert Guastini (Flipper)
 * Kurt Wagner (A Magical Walt Disney World Christmas)

Outstanding Sound Editing - Special Class

 * Thomas Syslo, Timothy Borquez, Eric Freeman, Rick Hammel, Les Wolf and Marc Mailand (The Angry Beavers)
 * Dick Maitland, Bob Schott and David Browning (Sesame Street)
 * Eric Freeman, Timothy Borquez and Rick Hinson (Life with Louie)
 * Diane Griffen, John Hegedes, George Brooks, Kelly Ann Foley, Gregory Beaumont, Mark Keatts and Robert Hargreaves (The New Batman Adventures)
 * Eric Hertsguaard, Melissa Ellis, Brian F. Mars, Kenneth Young, David Lynch, Marc S. Perlman, Robert Duran, William Griggs, Robert Poole II, Charles Rychwalski, Kris Daly, Dominick Certo, Jorge Riesenfeld, Bill Kean and Jennifer Mertens (101 Dalmatians: The Series)

Outstanding Sound Mixing

 * Dave Howe, Thomas McGurk, Michael McAuliffe, Bob O'Hern, Resti Bagcal, Marion Smith (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
 * Gary Gossett, Todd Orr, Jon Taylor and Kevin Patrick Burns (Crayola Kids Adventures)
 * Ron Balentine, Gary French and David M. Boothe (Barney & Friends)
 * Todd Orr, Kevin Patrick Burns and Jon Taylor (Flipper)
 * John Badenhop and Robert L. Manahan (Beakman's World)

Outstanding Sound Mixing - Special Class

 * Dick Maitland and Blake Norton (Sesame Street)
 * Benoît Coaillier, Pierre L'Abbé, Julian Fischer, Pierre Bourcier, John Nestorowich and Alain Roy (Arthur)
 * Michael Beiriger, Ray Leonard and Deb Adair (Recess)
 * Melissa Ellis, Michael Beiriger, Fil Brown, Ray Leonard, Michael Jiron, Allen L. Stone and Deb Adair (101 Dalmatians: The Series)
 * Timothy Borquez, Timothy J. Garrity and Brad Brock (Life with Louie)
 * Timothy Borquez and Timothy J. Garrity (The Angry Beavers)
 * Timothy Borquez, Timothy J. Garrity and Deb Adair (Bobby's World)

Outstanding Single Camera Editing

 * Darrell Suto, Michael Gross, Felicity Oram, John Reul (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
 * Richard A. Fernandes (Reading Rainbow)
 * Tim Warner, Michael Coleman and Julia Dunn (Wishbone)
 * Bill Howe (This Old House)
 * Barry Rubinow, Randy Littlejohn and Mark Walters (Beakman's World)

Outstanding Children's Series

 * Reading Rainbow
 * Beakman's World
 * Bill Nye the Science Guy
 * Nick News with Linda Ellerbee
 * Where in Time Is Carmen Sandiego?

Lifetime achievement award

 * Oprah Winfrey

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User talk:Mindspillage/2005archive6

This is an archive of my talk page from July 2005. Please add new messages to my current page.

starting the morning with a laugh
thanks for that! Funny, that comment was only up on my talk page for a couple of minutes before I decided to erase it ... LOL ... btw good work on Theon of Smyrna! Antandrus (talk) 1 July 2005 15:05 (UTC)

Unblocking?
Hi there! I noticed you unblocked a hoard of alleged sockpuppets I blocked this afternoon... would you mind explaining why? If you look at their edit history, you'll see that they are rather suspicious (e.g. all edits are to VFD, or absent for a long time and returning for VFD voting). They don't look anywhere near to valid accounts to me. Yours, Radiant_ >|< July 1, 2005 22:44 (UTC)
 * I just found your comment on AN/I so I responded there. Radiant_ >|< July 1, 2005 22:46 (UTC)

User:Talrias
Thanks for the note - I didn't even know he was up for Rfa - but I've now voted! :) A curate's egg 3 July 2005 17:26 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your vote on my RFA - it's great to have your support. Talrias (t | e | c) 9 July 2005 12:32 (UTC)

"Merge" template voting
I've set up two separate votes on the "merge" templates' discussion page. One pertains to the templates' wording, and the other pertains to the templates' visual design. Users may vote on neither, either or both of these issues.

Please note that I've posted this invitation on the talk pages of everyone who has expressed a preference for either wording and/or visual design. —Lifeisunfair 3 July 2005 19:48 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi Mindspillage, thanks for the positive feedback and support of my RfA! I intend to responsibly use my new admin powers, and I appreciate the vote of confidence. --Spangineer (háblame)  July 4, 2005 03:59 (UTC)

Category:Women classical composers
Greetings! I see you recently used Pearle to merge this category after its CfD listing. While I don't have any problems with its deletion, merging with Category:Classical composers means that a category intended to be a parent only to other categories is now populated with names. (I didn't notice until things on my watchlist changed; don't know why I wasn't watching the women composers category: oversight on my part!) All of the categorized female composers should already belong to its subcategories by era and nationality. Would there be any problem with using the bot to just remove Category:Classical composers from these articles entirely? Thanks, Mindspillage (spill yours?) 14:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * FYI, Mindspillage added the same to my talk page because I was the admin who closed the discussion. As I said there, I don't have a problem with her suggestion.  --Kbdank71 17:43, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Oops. Pearle is now working on fixing this now. -- Beland 4 July 2005 19:02 (UTC)

User:Convene
Hi, in unblocking this user, you said he was "just a member of a trolling group." Was that just a guess, or did you have evidence of his identity? I've revived the VfD because it appears to me to be a perfectly good faith deletion listing. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 8 July 2005 00:20 (UTC)

Uncle G rfa
Hi - I thought you'd like to know Uncle G has accepted his nomination on WP:RFA. -- Rick Block (talk) July 9, 2005 17:12 (UTC)

Was this VFD ever closed?
Votes for deletion/Hornby high school was started back in April. (April 26th). The only thing that currently links to it is Hornby high school. It's possible the VFD list from that day has been deleted (do they get deleted?) or nomination was never completed even though there are about 4 votes. Could you check this for me, please? I think you have more experience with these things. RJFJR 16:38, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * To me it appears that this debate never got listed on the VFD log. Therefore, I have listed it now. Sjakkalle (Check!)  12:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Messiaen
Thanks for the immediate feedback - pleased you like it! Yes it has been on the back-burner for some weeks, but I thought it was about time more pairs of eyes had a look at it. :-) --RobertG ♬ talk 16:39, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Socks
Hey, I keep forgetting I'm your sockpuppet; sorry for editing independently for a few moments. Hope you have fun in Northern California! Try to go to the Musical Offering in Berkeley if you get a chance (it has an amazing collection of books on music... at least it used to). I have to work next week alas ... Antandrus (talk) 01:25, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh, and if you are around reading your talk page at all ... here:   As always, one of my favorite editors puts it so well.  Have a good trip! Antandrus  (talk) 21:04, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

You're Welcome
You're welcome. I guess we all have to go through the passage of our user page being vandalized. Hmm, I wonder when mine will get vandalised? (not that I want it to be, of course). Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 19:06, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Kudos to Kat
Excellent job skippering the AdminShip. I read your policy and it is an Excellent one. With respect, Redwolf24 05:37, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Could you add the Speedy deletion warning?
I noticed you commented in support for adding a warning about speedy deletion to the Mediawiki:Newarticletext - I've posted a possible text incorporating the suggestions given in the discussion - would you copy it into the page? The discussion seems to have died down, and consenus seems to be that it would be good to add. JesseW 21:31, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for voting in my RfA; I promise I'll wield my sacred mop with care. If you ever need me for anything, you know where to find me. Thanks again! -- Essjay ·  Talk 15:20, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Mindspillage
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mindspillage&defid=790242

 * Delete. dicdef, nn, non-verifiable, WP:NOT, WP:NOR, and WP:BEANS. ;-)  func (talk)  21:42, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

wb
Hey, good to see you here again! Did you have a good time on the left coast? It's been busy busy... but I just wrote a bit on the great The People United Will Never Be Defeated! ... wish I could just write a wildly POV article about how much I love that piece ... Happy watchlistchecking! Antandrus (talk) 04:56, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Sango's RfA
Hi, Mindspillage.Thanks for supporting my RfA! I hope to live up to your praise as an admin and make good use of the mop. Sango 123  01:38, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

P.S. And I still owe you a thank you for the quick vandalism revert on my talk page. :)

VFD
Hi,

I was a bit curious about the definition of "consensus" for a VFD vote. In particular, John Lilburne Research Institute.

Thanks - Tempshill 23:25, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:FDIS

Welcome!
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Turkey men's national ice hockey team

The Turkish men's national ice hockey team is the national ice hockey team of Turkey, and is controlled by the Turkish Ice Hockey Federation (Türkiye Buz Hokeyi Federasyonu, TBHF), a member of the International Ice Hockey Federation. It is currently ranked 42nd in the IIHF World Ranking.

History
In 2014, the Turkish Ice Hockey Federation caused a scandal as a foreigner wearing Turkish national jersey played in a friendly international match. Denis Legersky from Slovakia, who plays since three and a half years in Turkey and is currently a member of İzmir BB GSK, was registered in the match against Bosnia and Herzegovina national ice hockey team as a coach–player. He, appeared in the jersey of Ogün Uzunali though not a Turkish citizen, and scored two goals in the match played in Sarajevo before 8,000 spectators that ended 7–2 for the Turkey national team. The officials of the Ministry of Youth and Sports protested the incident.

Olympics
The Turkey men's hockey team has never qualified for an Olympic tournament.

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Jeffrey Cook (British Army officer)

Brigadier Jeffrey Robson Cook, (born 1954) is a retired British Army officer and a former Director for Security Liaison in the Royal Household of the Sovereign of the United Kingdom. He served in the Royal Household from 2004 to 2009, and is now Managing Director of the Morgan Aquila Group.

Early life and military career
Cook was born in 1954. He entered the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst and, on graduation, was granted a short service commission as a second lieutenant in the Staffordshire Regiment on 9 November 1974. Promoted lieutenant on 9 November 1976 and captain on 2 December 1983, Cook trained as a parachutist and saw service in Northern Ireland during the Troubles and in the Balkans and elsewhere as an officer of the Special Air Service. He was granted a regular commission in 1984, and awarded the Military Cross in April 1985 "in recognition of gallant and distinguished service in Northern Ireland".

Promoted major on 30 September 1987, Cook was appointed a Member of the Order of the British Empire in April 1988 in recognition of further "distinguished service" in Northern Ireland. He transferred from the Staffordshire Regiment to the Devonshire and Dorset Regiment on 4 September 1990. Cook was promoted lieutenant colonel on 30 June 1994, and advanced to Officer of the Order of the British Empire in 1995 for his services in Northern Ireland between 1 October 1994 and 31 March 1995. He subsequently took part in NATO operations in Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1995 and was awarded a Queen's Commendation for Valuable Service. Promoted colonel on 30 June 1998 and brigadier on 31 December 1999 (with seniority from 30 June), Cook commanded the 20th Armoured Infantry Brigade from 1999 to 2001. He retired from the British Army on 1 June 2004.

Director for Security Liaison
Following his retirement from the army, Cook was appointed the inaugural Director for Security Liaison. The position was a new addition to the Private Secretary's Office in the Royal Household of the Sovereign of the United Kingdom. The Private Secretary has general oversight of security, though the Master of the Household is also involved, and the Keeper of the Privy Purse has responsibility for the ceremonial bodyguards.

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Talk:Joseph Sobran

Joe Sobran Quoted by Ann Coulter
There are several Joseph Sobran quotes in [ http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=212277 Ann Coulter]'s obituary, Not Your Average Joe. Asteriks (talk) 09:31, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I know what you mean, but someone might be confused by that phrasing. Just to be clear: thankfully, Ann has not died.  Rather, she wrote a tribute to Joe. NCdave (talk) 17:58, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Holocaust Denial
Sobran's connections with Holocaust deniers is well established; whether he was one is a matter of interpretation. The issue is discussed on the page. The reader can come to his or her own conclusions based on the facts as presented CJDate (talk) 15:01, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Yes, but let's be careful about "connecting" people (even dead ones) with Holocaust denial. Did Sobran say Hitler and the Nazis never murdered any Jews; or that the number of murdered people was exaggerated by 2% or 15% or something; or just that he was not so much intent on "extermination" as on some other goal?

 * The comparison is to Abraham Lincoln who explicitly placed one goal above another, i.e., to preserve the union - whether or not the slaves were freed. (We can then argue about Lincoln's position on slavery: was he pro or con, or just didn't really care one way or another?)

 * I hope we will abide by WP:Controversy in the matter of Sobran's views about Jews/Israel and the views of his critics. --Uncle Ed (talk) 11:07, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Irony and nuance
Some readers may have missed the irony in Sobran quotes like the following:
 * On Canada banning Dr. Laura: “Canada has to protect itself against such pernicious, hate-filled American notions as the Law of Moses. If Dr. Laura wants to spew the Ten Commandments, let her do it in her own country.” [ http://www.wnd.com/2010/10/212277/ ]

What’s the irony — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.102.135.198 (talk) 22:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Does this need to be noted?
"Sobran said Catholic teachings are consistent with his opposition to abortion..."

Huh? The Catholic Church is famously and consistently opposed to abortion. Why do we need to be told that Sobran taking *the exact same position* is "consistent" with that (equivalent) position? All equivalent positions are consistent with each other! GeneCallahan (talk) 01:05, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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