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Talk:Quincy, Illinois

POV issues
I really don't like the paragraph on Future Growth. (Speaking as a Quincian, nonetheless)

 * You're not the only one. This article has a lot of peacocking in it, and needs to be cleaned up for it.  Kelly Martin 03:47, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

A message
To whom it may concern..

I was the one who put the Corporations, radio, growth, famous Quincyans, as well as others and in response to the person above. I am sorry for my bad use of grammer and sentance structure, I am only fifteen years old and wanted to contribute to the Wiki community, so I apoligise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)

 * You can only learn by doing. Don't worry about it; you'll get better with practice.  Kelly Martin 19:18, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Census counts
Census counts include all the people residing in a city as of a certain date, and normally this will include "temporary" residents such as the QU students mentioned in someone's addition. Therefore it's not correct to take a count of 46,966 and add QU's 1200 students to get a population of 48000---they will already have been included in the original 46,9. /blahedo (t) 02:46, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

More pictures
I am a Quincyan and often make quite frequent visits to this site, but I believe that there isn't enough pictures on this site for Quincy, I would try, but I just don't know how, the whole process here to do that is quite confusing. I was going to post a picture of the Quincy sunset at the river on here, but couldn't figure out what I needed to do first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)

 * If you have the picture in electronic format already, it's easy. Click the "Upload file" link in the navigation bar (beneath the search field), and follow the instructions there.  Then, if you named it "Foo.jpg", you could use it on any wiki page by making a link to Image:Foo.jpg.  /blahedo (t) 23:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

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My mistake
I'm sorry, but I just checked my sources, the person above is right about the 2000 census information and Shout Fest (Local Attractions) is actually a traveling group, not an annual event, so it shouldn't be included as a "local event", my mistake. :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)

Railroad confusion
I know people say believe 1% of what you see on tv, and 40% of what you read. but my history book stated that Quincy was the first city in the US to have a railroad cross the Mississippi, maybe the Quad Cities was the first to have a commuter train cross the Mississippi, I don't really know. All I know is that my book said that, and now I am confused. Which was it Quad Cities or Quincy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)

Sorry about that
I contributed a lot to this page, but forgot to add one detail the sources.

 * The Corporations were found from their corporate websites
 * The Sister Cities were found in local news articles from the Herald-Whig and WGEM earlier in the year.
 * Ewbanks is not referenced as an official town in Illinois, but is still considered a community northeast of Quincy. Found in an article of the Herald-Whiq which mentioned the annexing of Hickory Grove.
 * Media was found from local television stations, radio stations, and magazines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.138.20.114 (talk • contribs)

Piecemeal editing...
I know that generally edits should be done in one swoop, but there's a lot of... umm... eccentricies to this article, in addition with the useful information.

Is Quincy really, really a trucking center of the country? I would put any city on an Interstate that ends in a 0 or a 5 above Quincy. This and a few other things I haven't looked into specifically need to be cited somewhere. —Rob 21:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

 * [] McNay Trucking
 * [] Sharkley Transportaion
 * [] Sisbro Trucking
 * [] ABF Trucking
 * John Wood Coimmunity College is one of the midwest's leading schools in where people train to become "truckers".
 * Other trucking companies house warehouses here in Quincy, like Amcorp, which is based in Omaha, Neb.

 * Okay, that makes more sense. I'll add something to that effect tonight. What I'm hesitant about is naming specific companies in the article — I feel that such information more properly belongs in the separate List of corporations in Quincy, Illinois unless it is reasonable that people that form a general cross-section of Wikipedia have heard of said companies. Also, can you please sign your responses with ? Thanks. —Rob 16:44, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Addendum to previous post — Quincy, Illinois should contain (I feel) the elements of what make Quincy, Quincy, as opposed to everything and anything that has to do with Quincy. This is why I've created the List of corporations, Sister Cities, and Famous People articles. Leaving Media in there is a toss-up. Leaving Attractions in there is definitely in doubt, if only because I think it can be rewritten in prose as opposed to a giant list. I'll think about it some more, but there might be a List of attractions in Quincy, Illinois and List of events in Quincy, Illinois coming. I'm sort of referring to Chicago, Illinois as a good article to look at in terms of structure, prose, and what's included as opposed to what's left out. —Rob 16:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I moved the following section. It didn't really add to the article, and might end up being a subsection of Suburbs eventually. But it needs to be distilled to a sensible write-up on concrete plans for future growth. --Rob 04:31, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Growth

 * Quincy serves as the hub of the Illinois, Missouri, Iowa Tri-State and looks to have a promising future.  Since the construction of Interstate 172, the city has seen significant growth in commercial and residential as well as industrial development.  National chain retailers both in the Quincy Mall and elsewhere along Broadway serve as a major draw for the local economy, and the last decade has seen development bringing the city limits all the way to the interstate.  Ongoing and planned projects will expand the city to the north, northeast, and east, attracting further attention from the highway.

 * The city is limited on southern growth because of the limestone mining. It may prove hazardous to build south for it may cause cave-ins.

Todo List
This list will be maintained as a template for what to do in the future with the article Quincy, Illinois.

 * 1) Article is missing an introductory paragraph. It contains a history but not a suitable introduction as to what the city is now.
 * 2) List of attractions needs to be summarized with respect to the city, turned into prose, and its specific events split off.
 * 3) List of events needs to be summarized with respect to the city, turned into prose, and its specific events split off.
 * 4) Media absolutely needs a summary paragraph, and its specific elements split off.
 * 5) At some point the History section needs to be peer reviewed. It looks good at first glance.
 * 6) Suburbs sub-section is good, but can afford to be moved somewhere else in the article. It's just a matter of where. :-)
 * 7) Need a Quincy skyline picture... I didn't really mean for the one I took to stay up so long. — Rob  (  talk  ) 18:29, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to add to this list, or challenge the items presented. —Rob 17:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Attractions
What are the top three attractions in Quincy? Those stay, the rest go into List of attractions in Quincy, Illinois unless the Talk:Chicago, Illinois page comes up with a more adequate solution. Thanks! — Rob (  talk  ) 19:43, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Great Flood breach
I don't know if the West Quincy flood was caused by someone or not, but any information either way needs to be cited. — Rob (  talk  ) 19:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

 * The paragraph you deleted was neither POV (well, maybe except for the word "bad" at the end) nor vandalism. It was at best factually incorrect, although it definitely jibes with my memory of the events.  Why didn't you just tag it with a  ? /blahedo (t) 01:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

 * It struck me as just... wrong. The last sentence specifically gives me pause as to whether or not the rest of the contribution is real or imaginary, and therefore vandalism.

 * The barge opened a huge hole in the levee, causing all of West Quincy to be completely submerged in flood water and the nearest gas station to explode when the barge rammed the pumps. 14,000 acres, reaching seven miles inland, was flooded. The young man was found guilty and was given a life sentence for his bad deeds.

 * Where clearly even the most severe types of destruction of property land you, at most, a few years in jail. I have heard of the incident, but this is not the way to address it in the article. — Rob (  talk  ) 18:34, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Ha-whoops. Brain fart or something, missed the bit about the life sentence.  Yeah, iirc it was long, but maybe like twelve or fifteen years or something.  I'm not even sure even of that much, though.

 * It is definitely the sort of thing that belongs in the article, though, once someone (not me, at least not right now) tracks down the exact facts of the matter. /blahedo (t) 05:58, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

 * If my memory serves me right, I don't even remember any authority catching the person that did it... but yes, that's where research helps. — Rob (  talk  ) 18:28, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

does anyone know of any history of a beaston family in quincy
just curious...it seems that they were integrated heavily (?) in quincy at one time...please answer here...

Regarding merging in List of people from Quincy, Illinois
I disagree. List is too big to be included in the article. — Rob (  talk  ) 18:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The problem also is that many people on this list are from an area other than Quincy,and needs more research doen to ensure we can claim these people as "Quincyans" (i.e., James Earl Ray from the Moberly, MO area, Michael Swango who killeed in the area but a local Quincyan??)

Quincy a university town?
The category does not seem appropriate. Mike Linksvayer 03:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I would agree it doesn't qualify as a college town. Quincy doesn't have a huge college student population relative to its size.--tess 23:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

This whole article seems to be written by a person who may work for the tourist bureu. As a Quincyan, it makes little sense to claim false "facts" when the town is a decent and well done place to live adn grow, without crazy claims (college town? Trucking hub?)

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"Catbus" drunk driving bus owner arrested
The story there has references if anyone's interested. Kylu (talk) 14:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * http://jalopnik.com/5604559/how-one-good-samaritan-was-arrested-for-driving-drunks-home?skyline=true&s=i

Sherdan Estates
Someone posted Sherdan Estates as being one of the Quincy suburbs. However, after some investigation, it seems that Sherdan Estates is really more of a subdivision rather then a suburb. As I do not live in this area, I am hesitant to delete it so maybe someone more familiar with the area can assess this claim.Gagman385 (talk) 22:20, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sheridan estates is a subdivision, not a suburb. I would have caught it earlier, but I haven't been checking Wikipedia as often as I used to (Tigerghost (talk) 04:07, 22 July 2011 (UTC))

deletion of "Government" section
Leaving a note on the talk page to designate a place for the discussion I anticipate will arise from my recent edit. This article is weird to begin with, and it feels like it's been written by someone with a conflict of interest. I find it hard to believe that anyone could have a conflict of interest over the city they live in, but after reading this article... Anyway, this was an out-of-place single-sentence section that was original research and very factual. However, because it is so factual, I think that makes the original research more of a problem than if it were less factual because it's either a "100% right" or a "100 % wrong", with no shades of grey. Please discuss here if you have any problems or anything to say. Thanks. Charles35 (talk) 01:54, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

 * I've spent some time helping to write this article [I even designed the infobox montage]. I didn't create the government section, but I figured that it was informative. I'm neutral on the idea of deleting it. For one, I do not like the idea of having a complete section devoted to one sentence. How do you mean a "conflict of interest"? This article was a lot sloppier before I began editing it, but I didn't wish to delete much because I figured the information was relevant in some way. Still, the article is not up to my standards of a city page. In my opinion, I think the entire article needs to be reworked, restructured, and redone. I cannot do it by myself, and I fear that this article has been abandoned. (Tigerghost (talk) 07:20, 11 January 2013 (UTC))

 * Basically, it feels like it was written by someone with a COI. What that COI is, I do not know. But the tone of the article has a "feel" to it that suggests a COI author. For instance, before this edit, the article claimed that Quincy was an economic and regional "hub" that "anchored" and "catered to" well over 300,000 people. In reality, the city has 40,000 people. That's kind of an exaggeration and is misleading, and uses some funny colorful language (ie catered to, anchors, hub). The only scenario I can imagine is that the primary author is an extremely overzealous Quincian. But I just read at the top of this page someone suggest that the author was a person who works in tourism, which might make sense. Basically, there are a lot of "eccentric" little facts and mannerisms in here, such as the fact that it is a "river city" (in these technologically and industrially advanced times, the term is archaic and rivers make little difference to cities). That's just the way I see it. Charles35 (talk) 06:13, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Native Peoples of the Quincy region - History vs. hearsay
It should be noted that the native people refered to in the article - the Sauk ( aka Oθaakiiwaki ), Fox ( aka Meskwaki ) were actually from the Northeast, immigrating from the Wisconsin region. The Meskwaki tribe, like the Oθaakiiwaki, originated in the St. Lawrence River Valley in Ontario, later moving to Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Iowa. The Kickapoo ( aka Kiikaapoa ), inhabited a large territory along the Wabash in the area of modern Terre Haute, Indiana. They were confederated with the larger Wabash Confederacy. No mention is given to the Peoria, Miami, or the Illini confederation ( Illiniwek ) of the Quincy area. There are enough reliable historic resources & references to correctly present the native people of the region, and where those that might have survived are found today. The regional eradication of native language place names and hydronyms reflects a historic period of cultural ethnocide following their removal. In the course of time most surviving Illini moved to a reservation in Kansas. In 1865, they numbered only 220 persons. The Peorias were given a reservation in northeastern Oklahoma. In the 1950's the Peorias numbered 466. There is no need in the present to continue that ethnocide by distorting documented history. Sudowite (talk) 15:39, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

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Slavery section
It is stated in this section that slavery was a "major religious and social issue" in Quincy. No mention of how slavery was a religious issue to Quincy is mentioned however. Were there church leaders causing divisiveness in the community or something?

There doesn't also seem to be any indication of divisiveness in Quincy itself about slavery or how it was a "hotbed". The article discusses it's quarrels with other cities nearby but not so the issues within the city that would make slavery a divisive issue for the city. ChrissyJensen (talk) 22:32, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Presidential visits
I would say that the presidential visits the city has had would be important to note in this article. Both President Clinton and President Obama visited Quincy. At least in the note about the 2008 flood it would be an interesting fact that then Senator Obama came to the city. ChrissyJensen (talk) 22:37, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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Why does Jesus Tree redirect here?
I was looking up Jesus Tree and it redirected here.

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Orphaned references in Quincy, Illinois
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Violet gland

The violet gland or supracaudal gland is a gland located on the upper surface of the tail of certain mammals, including European badgers and canids such as foxes, wolves, and the domestic dog,  as well as the domestic cat. Like many other mammalian secretion glands, the violet gland consists of modified sweat glands and sebaceous glands.

It is used for intra-species signalling, scent marking, and contributes to the strong odor of foxes in particular. Although it secretes a mixture of volatile terpenes similar to those produced by violets (hence the name), the chemicals are produced in much greater quantity than in flowers, and the resulting strong smell can be quite unpleasant.

By species
In dogs, the violet or supracaudal gland is found approximately above the 9th caudal vertebra, but depending on breed it may be vestigial or entirely absent. The violet gland secretes protein and hydrophobic lipids, has wide excretory ducts, is connected with coarse hairs, devoid of cysts, and has no sexual dimorphism. In the dog and cat fancy it is often referred to as "stud tail", despite the fact that it occurs in both sexes, not just breeding males. However, for reasons still unknown the hair at a dog's violet gland tends to fall out when androgen levels are high over a prolonged time. In short-haired breeds the usually inconspicuous gland may thus appear as a noticeably sparsely haired patch, and it is this condition of the gland area that is most frequent in stud dogs.

In foxes, the violet gland is found on the upper surface of the tail, at roughly one-third of the tail's length from the body, and measures about 25 by 7.5 millimeters in red foxes. Due to its role in steroid hormone metabolism (and possibly production), foxes cannot be "de-scented" by removing this gland. For unknown reasons, the gland's secretions are fluorescent in ultraviolet light; this may result from the presence of carotenoids.

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Captain Salt in Oz

Captain Salt in Oz (1936) is the thirtieth book in the Oz series created by L. Frank Baum and his successors, and the sixteenth written by Ruth Plumly Thompson. It was illustrated by John R. Neill. The novel was followed by Handy Mandy in Oz (1937).

Captain Samuel Salt (from 1931's Pirates in Oz) sails the Nonestic Ocean and discovers Ozamaland, a legendary land of flying animals, as well as the famous White City of Om, and other places.

Captain Salt in Oz is a rare Oz novel whose plotline takes place entirely outside the land of Oz and deals only indirectly with its inhabitants. (Compare with Baum's Rinkitink in Oz, another volume in the series with a limited connection to Oz.) Salt goes from island to island, claiming them in Princess Ozma's name.

Captain Salt in Oz was the first Oz book to be published without any color illustrations since The Road to Oz in 1909. Reilly & Lee would continue to publish all remaining Oz titles without color illustrations, eventually including reprints of earlier Baum and Thompson titles.

Reception
The Atlanta Constitution opined that "this particular book will appeal to boys more readily than girls as it has a very high spirit of adventure among strange people, in a still stranger land... The book throughout is interestingly illustrated with over a hundred sketches which will delight the heart of every boy of an adventurous spirit." The Spokane Chronicle agreed that "Ruth Plumly Thompson comes through with the same high caliber writing for children exemplified by L. Frank Baum".

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This category includes members of the three genera of badgers: Melinae, Mellivorinae, and Taxidinae.

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Hi, you've broken the 3RR rule on Adolf Hitler, I've blocked other accounts for an indefinite period as they turned out to be proxies, you will be also blocked for 24 hours per our policy. GeneralPatton 14:25, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, sorry. I didn't know of the 3RR rule, i am a newby to editing. ben 14:34, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, I’ll give you a pass here, I won't block you, but please refrain from revert wars, just await to see the reaction on talk, ok. GeneralPatton 14:37, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * You could probably try to make a point by point explanation of your changes in talk. GeneralPatton 14:42, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * i checked the rule. It says three times, where vandalism is not counted. At least once were I reverted was vandalim at least with the Bush picture, so that doesn't count and the rule doesn't apply. And then you locked the article, that's a good move, but why the older version?

I tried to explain a lot of my changes but there has been no reaction... I tried to explain or comment on many of my changes. And I will stay in the discussion, but tomorrow, now I will go to sleep as it is already late here (Tokyo).

 * When we lock the article we don't endorse neither version. As about the photo Hitler.jpg, looking at its history it looks as if you reverted it "14:18, 12 Feb 2005 . . Male1979 (15501 bytes) (Reverted to earlier revision)"  back to the Bush photo uploaded by User:253532 22:45, 19 Oct 2004 . . 253532 (15501 bytes). And about talk, well you just got to wait for a few days. GeneralPatton 14:54, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * ok. I think I learned a lot about wikipedia today. It must be really difficult to be administrator. Of course you are right and I should have marked it as vandalism.
 * I'll unlock the Hitler article within a day or two, and you can come edit it again, however, since you are new, also try working on some less controversial ones to get the "feel" of wiki. Next time you get anonymous users reverting you more than one time, just leave me a message. GeneralPatton 15:11, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * ok, i'll do that. thanks for explaining. ben 15:22, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * You could take a look at Nazi Germany article, some of the stuff from the Hitler article really belongs there. GeneralPatton 23:44, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I read the article on Nazi Germany. It seems a good article and much better than many parts of the Hitler article. Some parts should be taken to the Hitler article. But what I was asking myself was whether the article about Hitler shouldn't be more about Hitler and his life, i.e. WWI, political career, the Putsch 1922, about his privat life, etc. Now it starts from Hitler's birth and youth and then centers on Nazi Germany a lot and forgetting about Hitler. I think maybe tomorrow I will take some stuff from the German wikipedia [] and translate it. I think it's a good article though from a rather German perspective. You can check it by using google translation e.g. [].ben 14:24, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I wrote large parts of Nazi Germany article myself, i agree that Hitler article should focus on his personal life, and less on the overall history of Nazi Germany. Originally the Nazi Germany article suffered from the same lack of clear focus and was 90% devoted to World War II. GeneralPatton 18:01, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

PLEASE VOTE

 * Wikipedia talk:Requested moves - help save Requested Moves, bring friends. I'd hope you vote to keep voting at RM instead of running away to cabal at distant talk pages. —ExplorerCDT 19:14, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Again Adolf Hitler
Glad to see you saw the light. I apologize for not directing you to the policy, I thought I had. Though you could have asked a little more vociferously. —ExplorerCDT 18:39, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for the umlauted A in the Muehsam article. Forgot about that. —ExplorerCDT 22:39, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Re: Your comment on my talk page...I know "Fanal" means "signal", but it was called "Torch" in English distribution. —ExplorerCDT 23:07, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Request for Support
I've filed a complaint against user Jayjg for abuse of Admin powers and blatant Anti-Arab bias. The link [] will take you there. I think that you too have been subject to Jayjg's treatment, and I would appreciate any additional evidence you can provideA.Khalil 20:36, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Tokyo
I placed the Tokyo Tower at the top again. The Tokyo Tower image should be at the top because the tower "symbolizes" Tokyo - Many city articles on Wikipedia have the city's main symbol as the topmost picture, and Tokyo should be no exception. WhisperToMe 16:10, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Maps are usually seen at the tops of articles of smaller cities or towns because there are no notable skylines or landmarks there. When "symbol" pics have to share with another pic, usually the other pic is a skyline. WhisperToMe 16:19, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Also, I uploaded the large version of the map in place of the small version. WhisperToMe 16:48, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Whoops... I forgot about the confirmation screen... and I went to drive to Bush Airport. I'll upload that right now. WhisperToMe 19:50, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC) Done. WhisperToMe 19:56, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It's a waste to try to upload a smaller version, especially now that Wikipedia automatically downsizes images at the "image page" anyway, with a link to the "full resolution" version. WhisperToMe 06:17, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you for inquiring on why I was replacing the image :) - I have a broadband connection, so the image loads fine for me. WhisperToMe 06:28, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Duplication of Russia article
Hi, sorry I had to revert your changes to the RU article because you accidentally duplicated the article's entire text in their course. This was not caused by the specific changes you introduced because I could not find them in these conditions. Sorry, and thanks for understanding. Irpen 15:10, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

Physical attractiveness
Hi Ben. I've included the necessary references. Check out the newly-linked interview if you're interested in it. Tell me if there's anything else I can do.--Nectarflowed (talk) 09:31, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi man. You put a nice study to the article. I was just wondering about 1. year, 2. researchers, 3. reference/link. Would be great if you could just add it. Ben (talk) 18:15, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, very cool. I read the interview, it was interesting. I was hoping for a research paper, though. So, I was searching scholar.google and found e.g. this here and a (very) short review "Future change in sexual behavior?". Well, cheers, Ben (talk) 13:16, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Hey Ben, thanks for passing on the great articles. (Sorry it's really taken me a while to respond - I've been swamped lately).  I really think it's a shame only a fraction of the population gets to be familar with these kinds of topics.  I also have enjoyed studying (formally and informally) abroad.. in Sweden, Italy, and Thailand.  Can I ask what you're doing in Fuchu?  Are you making use of your education in strange subjects?
 * I thought the neural network page move discussion had good points, and I see it's gotten resolved quite well before I had the time to contribute. Congratulations on the biological neural network article. Like you, I think greater depth of coverage of neuroscience topics would be great for Wikipedia.  --Brandon (talk) 09:27, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Kanji, etc
I really like the new template on these pages! By the way, I'm not an expert on the topic; I just saw the need for the article so I adapted the material from the French Wikipedia the best I could. Anyways, per your questions -- for pages like Roku (kanji), I don't want to express too strong an option, because I didn't work on those pages, but I'd lean towards keeping them in Wikipedia. Other characters (for example, A) have their own pages in Wikipedia. But for your other question, I agree with you that they're inconsistently linked, but I'm not sure what to recommend. One problem is that the page is already so long that it gets warnings when saved, so if more links are included, the problem will only get worse. I know this probably wasn't too helpful of a response, but I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you. Thanks for all your hard work on the pages, and I'm sure our paths will cross again soon. --Arcadian 13:45, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Neural Networks
Thanks for the invite. I have read popularizing treatments of neurology such as The Emperor's New Mind by Roger Penrose, but I really can't say I'm familiar enough with arguments in the field to provide you with the sort of support you want. Sorry. --Christofurio 13:54, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note on my talk page. Regarding the spelling fixes, I wrote a program that uses the database dump of Wikipedia articles, makes a list of the articles that contain mispellings, and corrects them. It was mainly a way for me to learn about the database layout, because I also did some work on the MediaWiki software.

 * By the way, if you have information to add about biological neural networks, you could always start on that article. Regardless of whether the move you requested takes place, more information about the topic would be a good thing. It might even convince people like me that you are right. Thanks. Wmahan. 16:07, 2005 Apr 8 (UTC)

 * Just to clarify, I never said anything about a time limit or deadline. I simply do not think that the choice of name blocks work on the subject, and I would welcome more information from you or anyone else. Best, Wmahan. 16:56, 2005 Apr 8 (UTC).

Neural Networks (Artificial)
I voted on your proposal to move Neural network to Artificial neural network. I like what you said about this and related topics being underrepresented. If you care to, you might take a look at the Holistic science article, where I have included neural networks as an example of a field where holistic approaches are sometimes used. My knowledge of neural networks, artificial or otherwise, is limited to copyediting journal articles written by foreigners with poor English, and that a long time ago. If you're versed in the field (especially the holistic science part), I'd love to have your input for the article. Also please check out the holistic science talk page and the discussions going on at Category talk:Pseudoscience and Talk:Pseudoscience (if you're interested). --Smithfarm 19:43, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about the edit conflict; I'm glad you were able to salvage my edits. As to your question about structuring, yes I think we will have to think of a way to divide the article into sections and subsections. Also the intro may need some fleshing out before confronting the reader with technical terms like dendrite and axon. I will look at it. --Smithfarm 08:24, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

McDonald's Corporation
Thanks for giving the correct link at McDonald's Corporation. Wmahan. 14:31, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)

Georges Rouault
Ack! I misread your message on the talk page to mean that you were done. Many, many thanks for adding all that info to the Rouault page! --sparkit 03:29, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Image:Van Gogh - Portrait of Pere Tanguy 1887-8.JPG
Hi Ben! I intended only to add the category tag "Images of art", and did not upload the file, though that's what shows on the image's history. Unfortunately I don't remember if I was in wikipedia or wikicommons at the time. If I was in wikicommons, then adding a tag to the image, copied it to wikipedia, which is a bug, IMO. I'd love to see less duplication between wikicommons and wikipedia, particularly with art files. Could you point me to any resources regarding moving files from one to the other? Does one have to re-upload them to wikicommons or is there some other procedure? Thanks! --sparkit (talk) 14:36, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

I see the same apparent copying from wikicommons to wikipedia happened with other images to which I added category. Blech! --sparkit (talk) 14:52, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Sparkit! I think, I understand now what happened. The picture still is at commons, but a description file was generated at wikipedia. Thanks, btw, for putting the tag to the pic! Then, to my information, there is no easy tool for interwiki-moving, i.e. between commons and en.wikipedia. There is, of course, the possibility for uploading many files by putting them together in a zip file and sending them to some people, w:Commons:File upload service. I will forward your question to one of the admins in commons and tell you then what I found out, I have some questions anyway. Ben talk contr 00:32, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

 * It occured to me this afternoon that the behaviour might be intentional. So that the various languages of wikipedia can create their own informational pages about the images.

Thanks for asking the commons admins about the issue! --sparkit (talk) 00:46, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

 * No problem. I'll tell you when I got an answer. Ben talk contr 01:13, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi again! I got an answer:

 * 1) I prefer to move contents manually because Commons have stricter rules regarding copyrights and description then average Wikipedia (for example Russian). But I read that Wikipedia bot kit include scripts for moving images.
 * I found The Amebot at Bots. You should be able to use it somehow (I don't know how). There's more about bots here. Ben talk contr 01:44, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks again, Ben! Yeah, the copyright stuff makes me go cross-eyed. I might look into the bot. Someday I plan to learn to compile stuff like Python on my computer, but I'm more interested in PHP. --sparkit (talk) 02:06, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

 * The Anome is responsible for The Amebot. And just your question was just asked on the talk page, the 20th, and not answered yet. Ben talk contr 02:13, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)

source/reference request for your ferbruary edit to the Adolf Hitler article
On February 16, you added (among many things) the following to the Adolf Hitler article regarding Hitlers blindness in World War 1:
 * Recent research however concluded the blindness could have been the result of a hysterical reaction to the military defeat.

(See the diff: here)

This statement has been questioned on Talk:Adolf Hitler and a source for it has been requested. Your comment on the matter there would be much appreciated. Thanks. Shanes 01:24, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hey thanks for posting me. See the talk page. Ben talk contr 07:37, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

Image on Aristide Maillol
Hi, thanks for the compliment on the picture. Art is a tricky one for copyright tags. The copyright on an artwork belongs to the artist, and to the artists estate for a number of years following death, when that expires its in the public domain. That sculpture should be in the PD, so presumably you could copy it if you had access to a ton of lead :) I took the picture so I get to choose the licence, and I picked GFDL for use on Wikipedia, which seems to be what most people have done for other sculptures, see Henry Moore for some examples. I'll rename the file when I can get on my other computer,I might even upload a higher definition one and try my luck on Featured pictures. --nixie 09:41, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

I checked the Australian copyright laws (since I'm in Australia) and there is no restriction on photographic reproduction of 3D works, however the artist is French and that probably complicates things. I'm going to change the tag to fair use. --nixie 14:12, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

 * The copyright for wikipedia matters in the US not in Australia (servers in US). But, you are right, the artist is French... but you took the photo in Australia... it all seems complicated. Probably a wise decision to change to fairuse, at least temporarily. However, I guess (INAL), if Australia is ok with GFDL AND US is ok, than, you could have it GFDL. You might want to follow the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Copyright FAQ.
 * Anyway, tell me, when to give you my vote for featured pictures, nixie. Ben talk contr 03:00, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

Japonism and Les Nabis

 * Thanks for your fixes! Ben talk contr 07:47, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome, Ben! Thanks for writing/contributing so much to those articles! --sparkit (talk) 13:53, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

expand template/stubsensor
Hi Ben,

You probably want to use, especially if you know what the article in particular is lacking. For some more information you can see a section of the next project page, it tries to clarify what a stub is and is not and how else an article may be tagged. That is at User:Triddle/stubsensor/working. Let me know if you have any questions. Triddle 04:49, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Timeline of Middle Eastern History
Great. I agree with your assessment (that it is ailing) and would start with converting BC/AD (offensive to some non-Christians) into neutral BCE/CE. Looking forward to constructive collaboration with you. Cheers. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 10:24, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Cognotechnology?
You put the page Cognotechnology into Category:Anti-cult terms and concepts. I'm a bit curious on the logic behind this, since the article does not mention cults at all in any form. -- Antaeus Feldspar 22:42, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

 * answered at User_talk:Antaeus_Feldspar.

Duchamp
On my talk page you wrote, Hey, cool, you are writing about Duchamp. I just went to the Louvre Exhibition of the Yokohama Art Museum, which was all about Duchamp. I found that thing about "art factor" very cool. They had an exhibit, which was the picture of a text excerpt together with the sound of Duchamp reading it. You can tell me, when to check it, if you want. Ben please vote! 09:41, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * Yep. It might take me awhile. Though I know a lot about Duchamp, references weren't handy, so I'm reading Duchamp: A Biography by Calvin Tomkins. I'll let you know when it approaches "completion.

 * Wow! I just read a bit about the Duchamp exhibit at the Yokohama Art Museum website. It sounds wonderful! I'm jealous. Tell me more about "art factor." I'm not sure what that means. --sparkit (talk) 18:13, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * Most of the documentation was in Japanese, so I couldn't read it, but I enjoyed the exhibition a lot.
 * I am surprised there wasn't more on the internet for "art factor"! I'll try to remember as best as I can. It seems to have come from his book from 1956. The main idea of the "art factor" was that there can be no general consensus of what art is. Therefore it is not important to decide what is art and what is not art, but to how much of the ideas of an artist are transmitted/can be perceived by the observer and how they stimulate the observer. Because reception is productive and active, the observer is part of the artistic process and thereby part of the art. Reception differs individually, therefore art depends on the artist and the observer. The quality of "a piece of art" (if you may call it so) depends on the factor artist.ideas:observer.perception, what he called the art factor. I hope that was more or less correct, I found the citation there very fascinating, though I can't find it on the internet. Ben please vote! 05:21, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, yes. Thanks! I'm familar with the idea, but I'd not heard a name given to it. --sparkit (talk) 04:43, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Ukiyo-e
You told me that you'd reverted my edit on the 'Ukiyo-e' page, but I did have good reason for making that edit. I study Japanese at university, and while I was reading the Hōjōki in my tutorial on Wednesday morning, we came across the adjective ushi (憂し) in its rentaikei uki (憂き). My tutor said, 'Like in "ukiyo-e", the "pictures of the sad world".' I of course countered with 'But isn't it "pictures of the floating world"?', to which he replied, 'That's a folk etymology. Originally it was "pictures of the sad world".'

For ukiyo my denshi-jisho says 'うき-よ【憂き世・浮世】', but under ukiyo-e it just has 'うきよ-え【浮世絵】'. It seems to me that the explanation is that originally the transient world of the pleasure quarters seemed sad to some for its shallowness, but later it was glamorized as the 'floating world' instead. If the old definition was defunct by the time ukiyo-e were made, perhaps it is inappropriate to have the older kanji as an alternative, but I'm not sure.

DTOx 13:42, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi DTOx. That`s the first time, I heard about the writing as 憂き洋絵. My denshi-jishou didn`t have that writing. I checked it, you are right, that`s another writing(!), though it seems to be out of use today (e.g. I always found only 浮世絵 in all the exhibitions where I went). Interesting. The problem with your edit was, that you replaced your translation of "sad world" with the other of the "floating world" and put it together with 浮世絵. Then, secondly, ukiyo-e is known as the pictures of the world of prostitutes, courtisans, etc (so as the floating world). But you are right again, many pictures show the boredom, the shallowness of the higher classes. And there is not nothing in the article about that. If you have more information about why 憂き洋絵, i.e. why "sad" and about the shallowness, etc. than it would be very cool if you can contribute. We should have both translations, of course, and explain both of them. This historical rentaikei (and the explanation of why "sad") seems to be missing everywhere in all explanations and at the same time it seems very important, so contributions in that direction would be very welcome. Ben please vote! 14:49, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

Fountain
It could make sense to create a separate article dedicated to urinal art, e.g. Fountain (Duchamp), for the introduction. Ben T/C
 * Yes. I think the time has come. --sparkit (talk) 05:20, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Hey, that's neat.
 * BTW, thanks for all your tireless corrections in my contributions!

Ben T/C 03:15, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks! And, you're most welcome. --sparkit June 30, 2005 14:56 (UTC)

double redirects
Heya, I'm afraid redirects to redirects don't work at this time, people following a link to the first redirect end up on the second redirect's redirect page instead of at the article it points to. --W(t) 04:01, 2005 Jun 27 (UTC)

 * I know the problem with double redirects. Let's fix it. Could you tell me, where you found one? Ben T/C 04:04, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)

 * Ok, just checking you knew. It was at Korakuen, but I already fixed it. --W(t) 04:06, 2005 Jun 27 (UTC)

 * Thanks for fixing it. Ben T/C 04:08, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)

Edo-Tokyo Open Air Architectural Museum
Hi there, instead of making a redirect from the Japanese/Kanji names to this article, I created interwiki links in Edo-Tokyo Open Air Architectural Museum. Take a look and see. I deleted the nonenglish article names since we don't really use them in WP. Thanks. Fuzheado | Talk 8 July 2005 05:26 (UTC)

 * Hey, back there. I would appreciate if you would rather not remove redirects I created. Afterall I made it for a reason. It is simply not the case that we don't really use them [nonenglish redirects] in WP. If you would take a look at articles about Japan, you can find that many, if not most, of these articles have the name of the article in English and redirects from the kanji writing. Some people even go as far as creating redirects from Japanese writings of titles for not-Japanese related articles (typical example: color, 色). While the latter goes too far, it makes sense for the Japanese articles. I fact, it is a general practice that many articles about non-English topics with an English-written title have redirects from the local writing. I could put here a long list of examples, but I think you get my point. Please don't delete this kind of redirects any more.
 * BTW, thanks for creating the interwikis. --Ben T/C July 9, 2005 04:47 (UTC)

 * Can you provide some examples? I just know from experience we don't have many kanji or Chinese character title names in English Wikipedia pointing to English articles, or at least it's not the standard practice. See 色 and 日本, both are red links, they don't redirect to anything in en: Wikipedia. Or perhaps I'm misunderstanding your point. Fuzheado | Talk 9 July 2005 09:43 (UTC)

 * It looks as if you understood what I wanted to say. My examples didn't make much of an impression, though...
 * Well... examples. Looks as if some other people have been removing those redirects, too, for some mysterious reason (Many of 障子,障子,着物,着物,歌舞伎,浮世絵 have had a redirect). I am on a very slow connection, so it takes a lot of time to load pages and find kanji redirects. I provided of course many of my own articles about Japanese related topics with redirects (but I guess, this is not a good argument.) Except for that I found: 東京. Many other places in Japan had a redirect, but is has also been removed (e.g. 鎌倉、奈良、新宿、京都、北海道、渋谷、銀座、沖縄、関西、大阪、箱根.) Guess I don't make much of a case with my examples, if they are being removed. I think of it as in a way similar to the diacritics discussion, recently. I wonder, why people remove them, its not paper, right? If it is not practice now, it was practice some weeks ago - and it can become practice again. --Ben T/C 07:02, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, it's been pretty much policy for some time now (see Naming_conventions_(use_English) that article titles need to be at least in the Latin character set. With MediaWiki 1.5 software, you can have titles in Chinese or Japanese or whatever, but I'm afraid any addition in Chinese or Japanese characters will be wiped. But is this so bad? No one really looks for it here anyway, so folks will look it up in ja: or zh: and then wikilink over to English, right? Otherwise, en: will be full of Korean, Vietnamese, Thai, etc. and every language under the sky if we allow Chinese/Japanese characters here. Fuzheado | Talk 08:41, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for providing the link to the policy. I have to admit you are right about what you said concerning the practice of non-English character links, I didn't know that and I was surprised to read alas the software doesn't won't allow "北京" as a title (and this seems to date back more than two years), because until now they have worked without a problem. I don't think it is so bad, but I thought it was elegant and comfortable to have redirects from local writings to English-titled articles. You might have problems with your keyboard or just not know the Roman transliteration in some cases, so you type the non-English name of it and you get it anyway. I found that neat. And I am sure to have one more title for each Korea/China/Japan/India/Russia/Thai etc. article won't blow it up. The space requirement is minimal. Whatever... I am not going to fight over it. Thanks for telling me, Fuzheado. -Ben T/C 05:04, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Striped Knight
In response to your question at the List of Arthurian characters, it sounds like you are talking about Feirefiz, Percival's Saracen half brother in Parzival by Wolfram von Eschenbach. Percival's father married a Saracen woman and had a child, but he left and couldn't return, instead remarrying and having Percival. Feirefiz later goes to Europe, proves himself Percival's equal, and becomes instrumental on the Grail quest. His skin was supposed to be black and white in patches (black in the earlier, European understanding).--Cuchullain 02:53, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah... Thanks a lot. It feels great to remember. Ben T/C 04:39, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board
Hi, Thebainer! Thanks for correcting my entry at the Australian Wikipedians' notice board. Don't know how it happened, must be the slow connection. --Ben T/C 12:06, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

 * Sometimes when you get a page that says the server can't respond to your request, it actually has, and has already made the change, so refreshing makes the change multiple times. It's a bit of an odd behaviour. I usually just open a new copy of the article to see if it's changed, and it usually has. --bainer (talk) 13:17, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the tip. I'll try that next time. --Ben T/C 13:33, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Nuclear power phase-out
Hi -- Why aren't you participating in the discussion I started on the talk page? I posted to explain why I was making the changes, and you keep reverting without responding to my arguments.--Bcrowell 04:14, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I apologize. I thought I answered all comments, I didn't see yours. I moved the discussion to the bottom. Please see my reply there. --Ben T/C 04:27, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

I did not put a cleanup tag on Nuclear power phase-out. That was User:12.39.92.234. --ThomasK 15:46, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Nuclear "phase-out"
President of Philippines is lady so you should change "his" and "he" accordingly.

--Trigor 13:22, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Philippines In the Philippines, in 2004, President Arroyo outlined his energy policy. He wants to increase indigenous oil and gas reserves through exploration, develop alternative energy resources, enforce the development of natural gas as a fuel and coco diesel as alternative fuel, and build partnerships with Saudi Arabia, Asian countries, China and Russia. He also made plans public to convert the Bataan Nuclear Power Plant in a gas-fired facility. [27]

It is still the same. You corrected it but than somehow the old version returned. --unsigned Trigor

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