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Talk:Maldivian rufiyaa

Dates
Some of the information I fished out of the book are contradictory to minute amount of info given by the MMA site. (e.g. the introduction year of the Rf 1 coin, 1983 according to the book, a year earlier on site's coin profile). I took the older source into account and gave it more priority. Please let me know if you come across a more reliable source. --Fizan 12:25, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Convertible? 09/2016
Is it a convertible currency? I found some references about not being a convertible currencies but not information about it on Wikipedia article.

spelling
The displayed romanized spelling for the currency is Rufiyaa, as engraved on the coins and printed on the bank notes. I propose that we change the title of this article and all that links to it to that spelling for uniformity's sake. What do you guys think? --Fizan 03:31, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The title for this article, I believe, is wrong. Google query for rufiyaa returns some 730,000 results while query for Rufiyah returns 830. Page should be moved to Rufiyaa and templates Rupee and AsianCurrencies should be modified accordingly. --Oblivious 18:23, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Precisely my point Oblivious. Disregarding your Google searches, (which btw supports my initial suggestion), we should use the exact spelling found on the notes and coins. And that is 'Rufiyaa'. And as for changing the article's title and the templates, I haven't got the faintest idea how to do it. So people out there with adequate understanding of Wiki, elaborate. --Fizan 06:24, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Contemporary Maldivian coins and notes
This is suggest to be used when someone comes up with proper designs used in reverse. I've included the observe design as I see it. Suggestions? --Oblivious 16:59, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, there it is. I've completeted it. It doesn't have the 1 Laari coin, which has the denomination value (obverse side) & a coconut palm (reverse side). I've edited some of Oblivious's entries as the obverse side actually has the denomination value in the list of contemporary Maldivian coins. --Fizan 11:21, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Nice! I've added this to article. :) --Oblivious 12:21, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

1 laari in "Contemporary box"
Since The currency was put into circulation on the February 1961 and all the previously traded coins, with the exception of Shamshudeen III's 1 and 4 Laari, were withdrawn from circulation on June 17, 1966. it shouldn't be in the Contemporary box Fizan? --Oblivious 05:40, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Dude, I am a bit lost here. Contemporary in the sense that it is STILL being used right? I've checked a coin just now and the minted year is 2002. My best bet is Gayoom replaced Shamshudeen's collection of coins after he was appointed. Hope that qualifies it to stay where it is, otherwise lets remove it. --Fizan 08:17, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

 * No, it should stay... that was my mistake. I didn't see the with the exception of part.. heh! --Oblivious 08:20, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Name of Currency
Somewhere in the article, preferrably in the history section, the formal adoption of the word Rufiyaa as the name of the currency should be mentioned. Otherwise the entire historical account of the currency seemingly looks incomplete. 202.21.191.112 14:49, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Infobox
Here is the proposed currency infobox for the Maldivian Rufiyaa. --Fizan 06:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I made some changes. Also about "pegged by", is it true that rufiyaa does not flunctuate against USD? --Chochopk 17:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I suggest that the "Contemporary box" moved and refactored to the style of New Taiwan dollar or Hungarian forint. --Chochopk 17:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. --Oblivious 20:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Wait, what about 25 and 50 laari coins, frequently used or not? And 5, 10, 20 rufiyaa notes? --Chochopk 21:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

 * 5, 10 and 20 are not common. 25 and 50 are. --Oblivious 21:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

 * This doesnt make any sense. You're saying there's a big gap between 2 rufiyaa and 50 rufiyaa? --Chochopk 02:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Chochopk, I was talking ONLY about laaris and NOT Rufiyaas. I misinterpreted your question. --Oblivious 16:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but thats because people refuse to carry those coins (probably due to their low value). Some shops will even turn down payments made with those coins though it constitutes a technical offense. (Legal tender must be accepted by anyone offering products and/or services in exchange for payment). And oh, the officially pegged exchange rate is USD 1:12.85 MVR, see MMA and Bank of Maldives sites. --Fizan 04:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

So what happens when something is priced at 20 rufiyaa? --Chochopk 12:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Buy and sell rate are 12.75 and 12.85, so the midrate has to be in between. --Chochopk 12:01, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Removed copy of infobox to avoid polluting "what links here". --Chochopk 09:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

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Use of Ceylonese rupee
When did the Maldives start using this currency, and when did they phase it out in favor of using solely the rufiyaa? 24.214.230.66 (talk) 06:28, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

In the past
120 Lari = 1 Rupee Böri (talk) 13:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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Talk:Hird

Nasjonal Samling's hird
Perhaps hird deserves its own article, since the name was reused by Nasjonal Samling? Fornadan (t) 12:25, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Good point. The problem here is that the basic meaning is "team of housecarls", and NS referred to this basic meaning. It would be like having two articles on the same subject.--Wiglaf 14:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

You are sure "hird" means the same as "team of houscarls"? I thought the guests were considered to be houscarls, but not hirdmen. Fornadan (t) 15:54, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Your doubts made me check with Nordisk familjebok. It has an excellent article on hird], and it says that the members of the hird were formerly called huscarls, but that Olaf the Holy introduced housecarl as a separate category from hirdmen, within the hird. Frankly, this article should be translated and included in the housecarl article.--Wiglaf 16:03, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

That article looks very comprehensive. As for primary sources, we should probably refer to the King's Mirror. Fornadan (t) 16:24, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, but on the other hand, if the hird was a specifically Norwegian term it could very well be an article on its own, now that we have so much information. I'll leave the decision to you, as you suggested it.--Wiglaf 16:41, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

I strongly agree that the NS Hird should get its own article. Geschichte (talk) 15:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Hirth.
>The term comes from Old Norse hirð, again from either Old English hir(e)d 'household, family, retinue, court'[3] or perhaps the old German cognate heirat 'marriage', both of which can mean "body of men".

These suppositions just add random letters and call it fact. Pronounce the word hir(th). Men of your hir(th). Hir(th)men. Would it not stand to reason the better conclusion would be 'hearth', men from your campfire, or hall - given that these men are housecarls of sorts? 121.210.33.50 (talk) 04:06, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

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Clitheroe Royal Grammar School

Clitheroe Royal Grammar School is a co-educational grammar school in the town of Clitheroe in Lancashire, England, formerly an all-boys school. It was founded in 1554 as "The Free Grammar School of King Philip and Queen Mary" "for the education, instruction and learning of boys and young men in grammar; to be and to continue for ever."

After forty two years of sharing the school buildings with the boys, the newly-built Girls Grammar School opened in 1957, and merged with the Boys' Grammar School in 1985. CRGS celebrated its 450th anniversary in July 2004. At the same time, Stuart Holt retired as headteacher, having started in 1991. He was succeeded by Judith Child, who was headteacher until 2018. In September 2018, she was replaced by James Keulemans, a former international rugby player.

After becoming a Grant Maintained School in September 1991, Clitheroe Royal Grammar School became a Foundation School with a Foundation under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998. Most recently, on 1 January 2011, the school converted to Academy School Status under the Academies Act 2010.

Clitheroe Royal Grammar School continues to be based on two sites, with the Sixth Form Centre occupying the historic buildings on York Street, and the Main School at the former Girls' Grammar School buildings on Chatburn Road.

Intake
The Main School intake each year is now 180 children (a 30 pupil increase since 2022), who have each reached the required standard in the school's entrance examination, with places being offered preferentially to candidates living within the school's defined 'Catchment Area'. Pupils are then divided into six forms, named after the initials of the form tutor, and each assigned a house (C, R, G, S, T and A). This means the pupil population at Main School is about 750.

Sixth Form entry is based on GCSE performance and takes in around 330 students per year. The matriculation requirements are five grade Bs at GCSE, with at least a Grade C in English Language and Mathematics, while some subjects also require specific grades in related GCSE subjects.

Sixth form
The school was originally based at St Mary's churchyard, and was moved to the York Street site in 1814, in rooms that are now used to teach Art and Foreign Languages. The school was extended in 1878, and again in 1914, to include what is now the Library. In 2009, the site was extended further to create more classrooms and a conference room.

Commemoration Day
Every year the school holds a commemoration day to remember the founding of the school, on St. John the Baptist's Day in the local parish church of Mary Magdalene.

From the Statutes, dated 1622:

 * We ordaine and be yt a Statute of this Schoole for ever. That from henceforth once every year upon St John Baptists day called Midsommer day in the forenoone there shalbee a Sermon preached in the Church of Clitherow where the Maister Usher and Schoolers of the said Schoole shalbee p'sent before the Governors of the said Schoole and therein shalbee a comemoracon of the foundation of the said Schoole with an exhortation to the said Governors Schoolmr and Usher that they faithfully and diligently p'forme their duties.

Or, modernised:

 * Let this be a Statute of this school forever. Every year upon St John the Baptist's day (Midsummer's day) in the morning there shall be a Sermon preached in Clitheroe Church where the Master Usher and Scholars of the School shall be sent before the Governors the School and there shall be a commemoration of the foundation of the School with an exhortation to the Governors, Headteacher and Usher that they faithfully and diligently perform their duties.

School newspaper
The school newspaper, the Royal Blazer, was printed three times a year until 2006.

In 2022, a new newspaper was introduced, named the York Street Times. This is published three times a year, and is currently still running.

Notable former pupils

 * Sir William Addison (1905–1992), historian and author
 * William Blezard (1921–2003), composer
 * Pattie Coldwell (1952–2002), television presenter and journalist
 * Bryan Cowgill (1927–2008), senior BBC TV executive who devised Grandstand and Match of the Day, Controller of BBC1 from 1974 to 1977
 * Martin Dobson (born 1948), footballer for Burnley and England
 * Ross Eccles (born 1937), contemporary artist
 * Peter Hargreaves (born 1946), co-founder of Hargreaves Lansdown
 * Judith Hart, Baroness Hart of South Lanark DBE PC, (1924–1991), senior Labour Party politician, MP for Lanark and Clydesdale
 * Jonathan Hinder(born 1990/91), Labour MP for Pendle and Clitheroe
 * Michael Hindley (born 1947), Labour MEP from 1984 to 1994 for Lancashire East, and from 1994–9 for Lancashire South
 * Captain James King (1750–1784), Royal Navy officer who saw service on Captain Cook's third voyage
 * Samantha Murray (born 1989), modern pentathlon London 2012 Silver Olympic Medalist
 * Norman Myers, environmentalist
 * Amanda Parker (born 1962), Lord Lieutenant of Lancashire since 2023
 * Dixon Robinson (1795–1878), Lancashire Lawyer, Steward of the Honor of Clitheroe, landowner, and philanthropist, resident of Clitheroe Castle
 * Thomas Starkie (1782–1849), lawyer and jurist
 * Jon Schofield (born 1985), Kayak K2 200m London 2012 Bronze Medalist, 2016 Olympic silver medallist.
 * Arthur Joseph Wrigley, (1902–1983), obstetrician and gynaecologist

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lamest edit wars ever

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DISCUSSION MOVED, just closing for completeness. -Splash 00:15, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Lamest edit wars ever
This discussion is now at Non-main namespace pages for deletion (and has also been closed as "speedy keep"). Uncle G 12:29:09, 2005-08-29 (UTC)
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Marching Chiefs
I'll see what I can dig up! Do you attend FSU? TrbleClef 18:18, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Did my undergrad there, 10+ years ago. Thanks for the help. I was kind of surprised they didn't have a page up yet.

Deion Sanders
Since you appear to be sticking around and making some contributions, I thought I'd try and help make image uploading easier.

To add the picture, what you'll have to do is
 * Save it to your computer (note the folder it's in)
 * Rename the file to something more appropriate (e.g. DeionSanders.jpg)
 * Log in to Wikipedia
 * Visit the 'Upload file' link, in the toolbox on the left side
 * Use the form to find the file on your computer and upload it to Wikipedia

Then, once the image is uploaded, visit it's image description page (which will have the picture on it) and add a description by editing that page just like editing any other page. You'll want to use a copyright tag to make the copyright status of the image clear. On Wikipedia, magazine covers are considered a fair use of copyright protected images. So at the bottom of your description, add and the copyright template for magazine covers will be inserted. (See Image:World.mag.2004.ncs.jpg for an example.)

Then, go to the Deion Sanders article, and add the image to the article where you'd like to place it by placing in the appropriate place in the article. The "thumb" attribute will thumbnail the image since it's large, and the "right" attribute will right-align it in the article. Make sure to preview the article before saving it, to verify that the image appears where you'd like it to.

It may seem like a long procedure but it doesn't take too long to add a picture. Plus, if you're going to be contributing often it'll be useful. For more, see Picture tutorial. TrbleClef (talk) 16:17, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Images
No problem... I forgot a step, though... adding captions to your thumbnail! I added one to the image in Deion Sanders, so just check that out to see how it's done. TrbleClef (talk) 16:26, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you, I even played with the size, for the heck of it. I appreciate all your help. AriGold 16:32, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Kelly Marie Monaco
Hey AriGold!

Very nice picture of Kelly! Thanks for finding and uploading it. :-) Jester2001 30 June 2005 21:08 (UTC)

Comic book/stip movies
Hi AriGold, great work on your Wiki contributions thus far! I just saw your comment in the history of the "List of movies based on comic books" page:

 * "(removed Flash Gordon, didnt realize that comics based on strips were not included. Addded Lone Wolf and Cub.)"

I made a very similar mistake a few weeks ago; I added a myraid of movies to the List of movies based on comic strips that should have been in the List of movies based on comic books list, and had to revert all my additions and put them in the other article. Anyway, I just wanted to make sure you knew that both lists exist :) Cheers, --Naha|(talk) 16:40, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it dawned on me once I did it that there might be two categories!AriGold 16:51, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Phi Delt
Thanks for the compliment. I'm currently re-doing the Famous Phi section for GHQ. Look for the site to be online some time in September with over 900 Famous Phis and hundreds of photos. Dysepsion

Thank you. Haiduc 23:42, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Burt
Your edit to Burt Reynolds seems entirely sensible to me, but an anon has long found such designation unacceptible for reasons I've never been able to follow. Perhaps they'll be able to accept it now that someone other than me has edited it (or they've found something else to worry about). Cheers, -- Infrogmation 15:26, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. It looked like there was an edit war going on between you and someone else, I was hoping that what I did would work. AriGold 15:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Florida State
Well, I feel that if you are going to say why all these more than a dozen programs are notable...every university/school has notable programs. If you want to state rankings, thats fine but it seems highly subjective of you to say they are "highly regarded." Also, I don't see why they would be in that top intro section when you have then in the academic section anyway... BTW, im not a "gator fan", I am just editing the Florida University System and I've started with the 2 biggest, UF and FSU...

 * I agree with you but you had hard facts there and that's a difference. The creative writing thing is a great point and so is the golf program, but it seems biased to run off a laundry list of programs that are "notable" and not really explain why. I think they should be taken off, especially since the only source you can find that says that is the actual school website.  I mean, every school brags about itself so that really cannot stand...

 * Sounds like a good idea.

Entourage
Hi Ari, sounds like a pretty good idea. Feel free to change, I have to agree the list is getting to long with more actual celebrities than they have episodes. Sfufan2005 12:36, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Hey Ari, yes Flamurai's edit makes the article very reduntant and boring. I don't why it has to be from a neutral point of view. It never got deleted on the original Entourage site. Sfufan2005 12:46, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Regarding Jesse Jane biography
Hi AriGold,

While we appreciate your contributions to the Jesse Jane page, the biography in question is a copy-and-paste entry from the Internet Movie Database (see: ) and unfortunately cannot be accepted as is. I am in the process of rewriting the article, thus avoiding the copyright infringement issue. Thanks! -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 18:37, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Heidi klums picture
hello, please look at this talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:HeidiKlumgq.jpg

are you sure it's fair use? did you ask the magazine for permission?

Myles Brand
Not an acceptable edit. Let's not repeat it, shall we? Zoe 06:08, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

New picture of Kelly Monaco
I'm surprised no one has come down on you like a ton of bricks for finding the new picture!! ;) It's very nice though! Jester2001 19:45, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Sports illustrated cover
Hi there - I notice that you replaced the old picture on Cleavage (breasts) (which is clearly licensed) with a cover page from Sports Illustrated. I'm a little worried about the copyright status of this - are you sure it's a good idea? Trollderella 16:07, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, if you click on the picture you'll see the copyright description. AriGold 17:01, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Magazine covers
A number of the magazine covers uploaded by you and claimed as "fair use" are of too high a resolution. Wikipedia "fair use" guidelines requires all "fair use" media to be low resolution -- i.e. screen resolution, no larger than is needed to illustrate the basic cover. 500 px horizontal almost too much; 1500 px is far too many. A few examples I have come across are Image:KatieW.jpg, Image:KellyMaxim0905.jpg, Image:Vscovers35.jpg, Image:LOFTcover.jpg, Image:HeidiKlumgq.jpg. Please resize them down and refrain from uploading hi res copyrighted photos in the future or they will be deleted. If you do not understand the legal requirements of the fair use clause, please review our page on fair use. --Fastfission 17:40, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Archving of talk page
Hi AriGold!

I notice that you remove many of the discussions which take place on your talk page. I think that would be better if you decide to archive them instead of deleting them. Just a thought, but I am not sure what the official policy is. Jester2001 02:35, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the thought, I was honestly thinking about doing that but I have no idea how to. AriGold 18:47, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * It's actually quite easy, just create a new page called (for example) User:AriGold/TalkArchive. Copy all the talk you don't want to be in your main talk page to the new page. And create a link to the archive in your main talk page. You don't have to do it because you can always go back to a discussion through the history page, but it helps to keep things organized. Just a tip if you decide to use it.
 * You don't have to use this method just for archiving discussions. For example, I've create a page called User:Jester2001/Pictures where I link all the pictures I've uploaded to wikipedia. That way I can go back and delete any pictures which are no longer needed.
 * Thanks for the info about Raquel Gibson, I've added it to my watchlist and will add any relevant information. Jester2001 12:11, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Chief Osceola and Renegade
Nice article. Kushboy 06:28, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

University of Miami and User:Brian Brockmeyer
I don't recall ever interacting with User:Brian Brockmeyer before, though I'm sure you're correct. Can you remind me where I have? I'll try to look at the article today. Jayjg (talk) 15:05, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Images without sources
You should supply the sources and licensing information to the following images you have uploaded: Image:Doak.jpg, Image:Glow.jpg, Image:Sculpture-lg.jpg, Image:Unconquered.jpg, Image:Bowdenwindow.jpg, Image:Rgm.JPG, Image:Rgm1.JPG, Image:Rgm2.JPG, Image:Kaug.JPG, Image:COAR.jpg. If the information is not supplied within seven days, these images will be deleted. Lupo 09:26, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Image deletion
Listed under Images and media for deletion/2005 September 21. Thunderbrand 00:58, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

University of Miami Help/Question.
That sure sounds suspicious. I'll check into it. --Phroziac(talk) 20:54, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Joe Paterno image
Regarding the deletion of the Joe Paterno image, I was going to notify you, but looking at some of the previous notices about images on your talk page, I thought you'd been notified already. My apologies. ;) --Jtalledo (talk) 15:23, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Archived already? Regarding whether the apology was sincere or not, yes it was. Don't let that smiley at the end of the message set you off, I was just trying to be friendly. I guess that didn't work out. 15:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

RE: Keira Knightley Photos
I just didn't think they were good, boring, blury and mostly magazine covers. I thought the old ones did there job better, and no need to replace them. Sorry. Bronks October 11, 2005.

Keira Knightly
Sorry about that I was certainly going to send you a message today. Arniep 19:11, 2 November 2005 (UTC) "If the screenshot is used in an article that specifically discusses/criticises the scene or the film it's acceptable for it to be used in the article about the person. If the screenshot serves a purpose greater than merely identifying the subject then a fair use rationale can be made for its use in articles that relate to it, including articles about the subject. It's the context in which it is used, and the content of the article that it illustrates that must establish relevance. Same type of rationale as Image:As03-martha updat.jpg & Image:OJ Simpson Newsweek TIME.png which are not used in articles about the magazines from which the covers were taken, but in a related topics, in this case photo manipulation and O.J. Simpson. Both the related articles discuss the magazine cover and the issue of photo manipulation, so the image specifically illustrates the text. If it was just being used as a picture to identify OJ, that would not be fair use." Arniep 22:47, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi, this reply was written by User:Rossrs to a question I posted on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fair_use

GQKatie
You and I obviously aren't going to agree on whether Image:GQKatie.jpg is fair use or not. I have tagged it for a fair-use review by an independent third party so you and I can stop reverting each other. At the moment, the Katie Holmes article does contain this image and I will not remove it until the fair use status has been examined. Does this sound reasonable to you? --Yamla 22:42, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Cubi XXVII
Sorry. I thought I was doing the right thing in merging Cubi XXVII with David Smith (sculptor). It seems that the sculpture doesn't need its own entry but would fit well under the artist entry, which actually needs more content.--TNL 17:24, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Meteorology alumni section at Florida State
Just wanted to ask User:TrbleClef and you about Talk:Florida_State_University, since you two are the big contributors to the article. Kushboy 20:26, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:RGibson.JPG
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Katie Holmes
Greetings! You have edited the Katie Holmes page in the past. I've completely reworked the article and have posted it on WP:PR in the hopes of advancing it to WP:FAC. I would be grateful for your comments at Peer review/Katie Holmes/archive1. PedanticallySpeaking 18:38, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Katie Holmes
I've made some comments about images that you have uploaded, at Peer review/Katie Holmes/archive1. Would you mind please taking a look at them and updating the image description page with copyright information as per Image description page. My main concern is that the promo photos are not sourced, and this alone is reason enough for the images to be deleted under Wikipedia's copyright policies. I'm not going to draw further attention to them, however I hope you will act quickly upon this before some bot detects them. They will also need fair use rationales. Please let me know if I can help you with this. cheers Rossrs 01:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

re: Category creation
Seems like the category page was never actually created. Don't know why. But it's all good now! Kushboy 22:17, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Gilbert Baker
What you want to do is to add the following tag: to the top of the page and blank out the content of the page. In the "x", you put the website where the information was taken from. After you save it, it will tell you what to do next. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 03:08, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Blocked
I have blocked you from editing wikipedia due to your breach of the Three revert rule at Typhoid Mary. Your dispute was over content, your edits were not reverting vandalism. You are therefore blocked for one hour. Hiding talk 23:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Let that be a lesson to you: Don't engage in revert warring. Since you were reverting to a consensus version, you got off easy with a token one hour block. You read my message on Hiding's talk page; I suggested a 48 hour block for DrBat, but Steve let him off with a 24 hour one. Next time DrBat tries to engage you in dialogue, I suggest you talk to him instead deleting his messages from your talk page. You also need to note that the discussion had changed; at the time he was re-inserting the image, we were going with the assumption that it was indeed a promotional image and if that were the case and if the fair use argument is better with those kinds of images, then the question becomes, is it better to show the character in the context of the cover or alone? However, we never actually got to that dialogue because DrBat decided to not engage in it. Since it turns out to not be a truly promotional image, then most likely we will not be able to use it, although a Character-artwork fair use argument could be made.  howch e  ng   {chat} 16:48, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You reverted the page six times in less than half an hour. Although three admins suggested an image as better use, that does not make a definitive answer, and discussion was still ensuing.  Discussion is the way to resolve things here, as outlined in pages such as Dispute resolution.  Regardless of the rightness or wrongness of your position, you violated the three revert rule, something which has to protected in all instances to save the wikipedia from disruption.  Note you were told by Howcheng that the issue was not a vandalism issue but rather a content dispute, and yet you still continued to mark your actions as reverting vandalism.  Your comments at my talk page do not indicate to me you have considered your behaviour, you seem to be blaming everyone else for the situation and not considering your own role in the revert war.  If you read WP:3RR you will note it directs an admin to treat all parties equally.  I had no choice but to block you; I used discretion and blocked for time limits based on the previous behaviour of the two participants, taking into account previous blocks.  I feel your comments to both myself and Howcheng in the light of the block do not vindicate my decision.  I would suggest you take a deep breath and in future consider stepping back from such issues rather than seeking to impose your own view so rigidly.  Wikipedia is, and always will be, by it's nature, a work in progress.  A few hours displaying a disputed image will not trouble the project over much.  I would suggest you have a read of Eventualism, and have a rethink of your actions.  At the least I think you might consider an apology to Howcheng.  You note at User talk:DrBat that you have been told by three admins that your actions are correct.  I suggest this shows a flaw in your understanding in how wikipedia works.  I for one never authorised such actions, such actions are completely against policy.  What you have to bear in mind is that you have to consider your actions as part of a greater whole.  What effect did your reversion of Dr Bat's edit have?  It escalated and inflamed the situation.  I apologise for not discussing the issue with you directly, but consider this:  given you used my comments as justification for your actions, where did you seek discussion with me?  How am I to discuss such actions when they happen within half an hour?  You have the look of a good editor about you, but you need to show more respect in your exchanges with people. Hiding  talk 18:46, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:GQKatie.jpg)
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Katie Holmes
I'd like to again thank you for your help with this article. I've nominated it as a FAC and would appreciate your comments at Featured article candidates/Katie Holmes. As you added the photos to the article, can I ask you to help me respond to objections that may be raised on those photos? Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 16:08, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, I understand. It's hard to know just where things came from.  I myself had to go back and check my notes when I put in footnotes on this article.  It's just that when I've submitted a FAC in the past, usually the first thing I get for responses is "oppose" votes because the photos aren't satisfactory to some voters.  Rossrs put in a note about the Oprah clip, I do know.  Again, thanks for your support on this article.  PedanticallySpeaking 16:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Your image removals
Covers to magazines that are indicitive of a model's profession/body of work can not be used? If that is the case, I'll give you a head start on many more pages you might want to change: Cindy Crawford, Elle Macpherson, Kathy Ireland, Ana Beatriz Barros, Alessandra Ambrosio, Marilyn Monroe, Naomi Campbell, Rachel Hunter, Pamela Anderson, Jaime Pressly, Kelly Monaco, Victoria Silvstedt, Christie Brinkley, Paulina Porizkova, Heidi Klum, Rebecca Romijn, Elsa Benitez, Yamila Diaz, Veronica Varekova, Carolyn Murphy, Cheryl Tiegs, Angie Everhart, Stephanie Seymour, Anna Kournikova, Halle Berry, Anna Nicole Smith. AriGold 17:44, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * As of my understanding of Fair Use, and even according to the text on the Magazinecover template ("...to illustrate the publication of the issue of the magazine in question..."), Magazine-cover images can only be used to illustrate the magazine themselves, not the people nor facts depicted on them. I understand there are lots of cases of magazine covers missues on Wikipedia. Thanks for you help with the list. It will surely be helpfull. Regards, --Abu Badali 18:06, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Glad I can help. AriGold 18:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * So, would you mind to (re-)remove the Magazine images on Adriana Lima's article? I could sound offensive if I did that myself. But of course, if you agree, I can do that myself. Thanks again, --Abu Badali 20:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * If it's the right move, by all means proceed as you see fit. But just out of curiosity, if the consensus comes back in the here that magazine images are ok to illustrate a model's work, will you go back and reinsert everything? AriGold 20:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I understand your point. Maybe it would be wiser to wait for some other opinions before proceding with such a move.

 * By the way, what is your current opinion on the issue? Do you agree that the wording in the Magazinecover template forbids such uses of those images? I have also read WP:Fair use and I still believe we can't use magazine cover's in articles other than about the magazine itself. Thanks, and awaiting your feedback, --Abu Badali 20:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Atlantic Coast Conference
I was just curious why you deleted the entirety of the information regarding the eʁxpansion of the Atlantic Coast Conference. I agree there was a fair bit of NPOV, non-encyclopedic commentary in there, but does the entire section need to be deleted? I think the national conference realignment is a pretty important topic, and at least some sort of mention should be made in the conference pages. Sertrel 22:20, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Maybe a few sentences would be necessary, but right now there's only this sentence: "In 2003's cycle of conference alignment, the ACC added three more members, all from the Big East: Miami and Virginia Tech joined on July 1, 2004, and Boston College joined on July 1, 2005 as the league's twelfth member." Is there a major article of some sort about all the schools under consideration, which ones recanted, etc., and the subsequent cascading effect on the Big East, C-USA, etc.? Sertrel 22:27, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

See Big East Conference, Conference USA, and Atlantic Sun Conference for some of the effects over the past few years. But I'm beginning to think that a separate article would be the best way to address this, and then just link to that article from each of the major conference pages. Sertrel 22:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

ACC
I guess I get your point, but:

- I also reedited the text for the Duke-UNC rivalry, which was awful and ungrammatical. Why revert that?

- If there any rhyme or reason to the order in which each rivalry's schools are listed? As in: Why is it "Virginia-Maryland" instead of "Maryland-Virginia" if we're being alphabetical? Why isn't "Clemson-N.C. State" first? Jbenton 21:35, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Images
Yeah I know, it was getting out of hand. I tried fixing it up again yesterday, well see if it lasts. GodzillaWax 17:41, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help.
I'm still in the process of learning the exact Wiki protocol. I have read the instructive pages for new users; however, it is a lot to digest and commit to memory all at once. Right now, I'm focusing on editing stump pages and obscure pages as part of the learning process. When I'm confident that I have mastered the process, then I will try again to contribute to the Burt Reynolds page. I fully understand that this is an important page. Again, thanks for helping me with the learning process Hokeman 18:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Image deletion warning
Hey AriGold, why are you planning to delete all those images that have no source such as Image:Stallone.jpg, Image:Barthez.jpg, Image:PrestonLG.jpg, Image:Christian bale.jpg, Image:KimDaejung.jpg and Image:Hford33.jpg. But those images are promotional. See Hoy Kim 08:12, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

thanks
Thanks for the headsup on the Tallahassee vandalism. Probably just a gator fan. ⇒   SWAT Jester     Ready    Aim    Fire!  22:00, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for trying to sort out the copyright issues with this image but as it stands right now by you stating that Topps holds the copyright if wikipedia continuses to host this image it will be violating Topps' copyrights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this:. Drop me a comment or question on my talk page if you want me to help you with this. No Guru 17:30, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It looks like the image has been tagged for copyright issues by another user. You may be interested in reading or participating in this discussion about baseball card usage on Wikipedia. No Guru 19:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Bruce Johnson
Greetings, Ari! You were kind enough to support the FAC candidacy of my article on Katie Holmes. I've put forward another nomination, Ohio's lieutenant goveror Bruce Johnson. I've would appreciate your comments at Featured article candidates/Bruce Johnson. PedanticallySpeaking 21:31, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

ACC Nat'l Champions
I noticed you had changed Georgia Tech's National Championships from 1 to 0. They shared the college football championship with Colorado in 1990. Docbengal 22:53, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

FSU Athletics / Championships
I'm getting there :-) Your suggestions sound excellent. I may have to go to an old book I have on Seminole sports.

The reason that I created this article/page was that there's so much info it would ruin the clean look of the Florida State University article/page. The more I read, the more I find. Any help would be appreciated Noles1984 22:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

FSU Athletics / Championships
guess I had to go and get the Lady Noles logo. Off to the salt mines. Noles1984 22:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Creating Florida State Seminoles
Moved it Noles1984 16:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

New Stuff
Saw all of that this morning - thanks. Attempting to move material from Florida State article to new Seminoles article. Noles1984 17:18, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:CoversVS.jpg
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66.254.238.240
Thanks for the info. If he is disruptive let me know. -Will Beback 21:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * User:RicardoTubbs is plainly a sock of Almeidaisgod/Brian Brockmeyer/etc. I've blocked it; please let me know if someone else shows up with these editing patterns. · Katefan0(scribble)/ poll 16:14, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks for the message -- I blocked the IP at the same time, I think for a month as it seemed to be a static IP, possibly connected with his dorm room at Notre Dame. · Katefan0(scribble)/ poll 15:35, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

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This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, as you did to Suri Cruise, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Yamla 21:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

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Suri Cruise
Regarding the warning I gave you for Suri Cruise, I do apologise. I must admit, I jumped the gun. In fact, I initially blocked you and then later, unblocked you. I'm not exactly sure why this happened. The fact that you had been blocked before didn't help, nor the fact that the page was deleted as a result, but nevertheless, I overreacted. I am sure you are telling the truth when you say you didn't mean to save the page. Anyway, I really do apologise. --Yamla 23:32, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

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CWS
Thanks for your message re the Co-operative Group edit. I can see the reason for your original edit now. The reference to the College World Series at the top of the Co-operative Group article seemed so incongruous I edited it out. Your disambiguation solution seems ideal and I apologise for using the word irrelevant in my edit.

Nigel45 10:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I apologise for yesterday's edits. I didn't realise the 'Co-Operative Group' article had been edited instead. This is one of those unfortunate cases where an American association, which isn't well-known outside of the US, has the same initials as a more well-known group.

(RM21 17:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC))

Phi Delta Theta Alumni additions
Sorry for the long delay for a response. I was away and have not been on the internet for a while. All of the additions by Harvardlaw are actual Phi Delt Alumni, although I can't verify the CEO of Dr. Pepper as a Phi. Harvardlaw is just taking the names from the www.famousphi.com website although I believe it's pointless to list all of them when a link to the site already exists. -- † Ðy§ep§ion † Speak your mind 05:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

David J. Silver
This is in response to the question you left on my talk page. I've reviewed the article, the subject doesn't seem notable to me. I think it should be brought to AfD. Regards, Accurizer 14:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree. We've already speedied David Jason Silver on the same subject. I "prodded" the article, but I would be surpised if the tag lasts 5 days. I'd support an AfD. -Will Beback 15:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Even if the tag holds and it is deleted after 5 days, prodded articles can be recreated. If you would like to have this permanently deleted (permanently meaning until the subject becomes notable), AfD is definately the way to go. Accurizer 16:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point. I've converted it to an AfD. -Will Beback 16:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Re.
I briefly looked into this and didn't really see a connection. Perhaps I missed something? K1Bond007 05:07, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

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War Chant
Hello, thanks very much for your message and for correcting the name of that article. I am not a FSU fan, but I am a fan of college football. Obviously there are some things about the sport that I don't know yet! I'm sorry about the mistake but I'm glad you caught it quickly so we can develop the article under the proper name. Since you are knowledgeable about FSU traditions, perhaps you would consider joining The College Football WikiProject? We are really gearing up as we approach the fall season. BTW, I also created Gator Chomp as a stub yesterday. It was my intention to expand them both and nominate one for the Did you know section of the Main Page. Since you've already done some good expansion of War Chant, perhaps we can improve it and nominate it together? A picture would be a great addition if you happen to have one. We have to nominate it soon, as articles are not eligible for DYK if they are more than 5 days old. Johntex\talk 14:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Doak Campbell Stadium
The reason I changed the infobox was because it did not follow Wikipedia standards, and was using very shoddy HTML work. Most Wikipedia articles have a similar infobox to what I changed it as, for an example: Ben Hill Griffin Stadium. Gonk

 * Its been added. Gonk 01:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

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Alba
Hey, thanks for your advice. You are right, she was not having a good day. I will change the picture as soon as I have the time. Philippe Baledent, www.biosstars.com

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Necip Fazıl Kısakürek

Ahmet Necip Fazıl Kısakürek (May 26, 1904 – May 25, 1983) was a Turkish poet, novelist, playwright, Islamist ideologue, and conspiracy theorist. He is also known simply by his initials NFK. He was noticed by the French philosopher Henri Bergson, who later became his teacher.

Biography
In his own words, he was born in "a huge mansion in Çemberlitaş, on one of the streets descending towards Sultanahmet" in 1904. His father was Abdülbaki Fazıl Bey who held several posts including deputy judge in Bursa, public prosecutor in Gebze and finally, judge in Kadıköy. His mother was an emigree from Crete. He was raised at the Çemberlitaş mansion of his paternal grandfather Kısakürekzade Mehmed Hilmi Efendi of Maraş; he was named after his great-grandfather Ahmed Necib, as well as his father, Fazıl.

He studied in many schools during his primary education, including the French School in Gedikpaşa, Robert College of Istanbul, as well as the Naval School. He received religious courses from Ahmed Hamdi of Akseki and science courses from Yahya Kemal at the Naval School but he was actually influenced by İbrahim Aşkî, whom he defined to have "penetrated into deep and private areas in many inner and outer sciences from literature and philosophy to mathematics and physics". İbrahim Aşkî provided his first contact with Sufism even at a "plan of skin over skin". "After completing candidate and combat classes" of Naval School, Kısakürek entered the Philosophy Department of Darülfünûn and graduated from there (1921–1924). One of his closest friends in philosophy was Hasan Ali Yücel.

He studied in Paris for one year with the scholarship provided by the Ministry of National Education (1924–1925), until the scholarship was cancelled. After returning home in 1926, he worked at Holland, Osmanlı and İş Banks (1926–1939), and gave lectures at the Faculty of Linguistics and History and Geography and the State Conservatoire in Ankara and the Academy of Fine Arts in İstanbul (1939–1942). Having established a relation with the press in his youth, Kısakürek quit civil service to earn his living from writing and magazines.

Necip Fazıl's life took a turn in 1934, when he met Abdülhakim Arvasi, a sheik of the Sufi Naqshbandi order. He became one of his most notable disciples, remaining a follower until the sheik's death in 1943.

Appropriating his anti-semitic ideas from Europe, Kısakürek regarded Jews as the corrupting element within Western civilization, and described them as the originator of Marxism and capitalism. He held them responsible for the early conflicts between Muslims and the decline of the Ottoman Empire. Kısakürek's publications included the Turkish translation of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and praise for Henry Ford's The International Jew, as well as a political program in which he wrote: “Chief among these treacherous and insidious elements to be cleansed are the Dönmes and the Jews." Necip Fazıl was awarded the First Prize of C.H.P. Play Contest in 1947 with his play Sabır Taşı (Stone of Patience). Kısakürek was awarded the titles of "Great Cultural Gift" by the Ministry of Culture (25 May 1980) and "Greatest Living Poet of Turkish" by the Foundation of Turkish Literature upon the 75th anniversary of his birth.

Necip Fazıl Kısakürek died on 25 May 1983 in his house at Erenköy after an illness that "lasted long but did not impair his intellectual activity and writing" and was buried in the graveyard at the Eyüp Cemetery on the ridge of Eyüp after an eventful funeral.

Islamist nationalist ideology
Kısakürek sought to replace the Kemalist secular notion of nationalism with an Islamist one with less emphasis on nationalism. Within Turkish Islamism, he represented the concept of "Islamization from above" through the capture of government.

Since the late 1970s, Kısakürek has been an icon for Turkish Islamists. Many cadres of the Justice and Development Party (AKP) have been inspired by his rhetoric, including Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, who met Kısakürek while still a student and attended his funeral at the start of his political career.

Literary career
In his own words, having "learned to read and to write from his grandfather in very young ages", Kısakürek became "crazy about limitless, trivia reading" until the age of twelve starting from "groups of sentences belonging to lower class writers of the French" Having been involved in literature with such a reading passion, Necip Fazıl states that his "poetry started at the age of twelve" and that his mother said "how much I would like you to be a poet" by showing the "poetry notebook of a girl with tuberculosis" lying on the bed next to his mother's bed when he went to visit her staying at the hospital, and adds: "My mother's wish appeared to me as something that I fed inside but I was not aware of until twelve. The motive of existence itself. I decided inside with my eyes on the snow hurling on the window of the hospital room and the wind howling; I will be a poet! And I became".

The first published poem of Necip Fazıl is "Kitabe", a poem that was later included in his book Örümcek Ağı (Spider Web) with the title "Bir Mezar Taşı"(A Gravestone); it was also published in the Yeni Mecmua (New Magazine) dated 1 July 1923.

By 1939, his poems and articles were appearing in magazines such as Yeni Mecmua, Milli Mecmua, Anadolu, Hayat and Varlık, and Cumhuriyet newspaper.

After returning home from Paris in 1925, Necip Fazıl stayed in Ankara intermittently. On his third visit, he published a magazine called Ağaç on 14 March 1936 by providing the support of some banks. Ağaç, the writers of which included Ahmet Hamdi Tanpınar, Ahmet Kutsi Tecer and Mustafa Şekip Tunç, decided to follow a spiritualist and idealist line on the contrary to the materialist and Marxist ideas supported by the writers such as Burhan Belge, Vedat Nedim Tör, Şevket Süreyya Aydemir and İsmail Hüsrev Tökin of closed Kadro magazine owned by Yakup Kadri and which influenced the intellectuals of the time greatly. Kısakürek later transferred to Ağaç (Tree) magazine published during six volumes in Ankara to İstanbul, however, unable to establish a viable reader base, the magazine was closed at the 17th volume. Necip Fazıl was among the contributors of the conservative magazine entitled Serdengeçti.

Necip Fazıl next began to publish the magazine called Büyük Doğu (Great East). Starting in 1943, the magazine was published intermittently as weekly, daily and monthly. In 1978, he was prosecuted because of his controversial articles and publications and the magazine was forced to close. Necip Fazıl also published a political humor magazine called Borazan (Bugle), of which only three volumes were published.

Poetry

 * Örümcek Ağı (1925) (Spider Web)
 * Kaldırımlar (1928) (Pavements)
 * Ben ve Ötesi (1932) (Me and Beyond)
 * Sonsuzluk Kervanı (1955) (Caravan of Infinity)
 * Çile I (1962) (Anguish I)
 * Şiirlerim (My poems) (1969)
 * Esselâm (1973) (Welcome)
 * Çile II (1974) (Anguish II)
 * Bu Yağmur (This Rain)
 * Canım İstanbul (My Dear Istanbul)

Novels

 * Aynadaki Yalan (1980) (The Lie in the Mirror)
 * Kafa Kağıdı (1984-Published as a series in Milliyet newspaper)

Stories

 * Birkaç Hikâye Birkaç Tahlil (1932) (Some Stories and Some Analyses)
 * Ruh Burkuntularından Hikayeler (1964) (Stories From Soul Shatters)
 * Hikâyelerim (1970) (My Stories)

Memoirs

 * Cinnet Mustatili (1955) (Rectangle of the Possessed)
 * Ideolocya Örgüsü (1968) (The Weave of Ideology)
 * Hac (1973) (Hajj)
 * O ve Ben (1974) (He and I)
 * Bâbıâli (1975) (The Sublime Porte)

Plays

 * Bir Adam Yaratmak (To Create A Man)
 * Tohum (Seed)
 * Reis Bey (Mr. Judge)
 * Para (Money)
 * Sabır Taşı (Stone of Patience)
 * Ahşap Konak (Wooden Mansion)
 * Kanlı Sarık (Bloody Turban)
 * Püf Noktası (The Thin Line)
 * İbrahim Ethem
 * Yunus Emre
 * Abdülhamin Han (Abdulhamid Khan)
 * Mukaddes Emanet (The Holy Escrow)
 * Siyah Pelerinli Adam (The Man With Black Cloak)
 * Parmaksız Salih (Fingerless Salih)

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Loren Roberts

Loren Lloyd Roberts (born June 24, 1955) is an American professional golfer, who has played on the PGA Tour and the PGA Tour Champions.

Early life
Roberts was born in San Luis Obispo, California. He competed for San Luis Obispo Senior High School and California Polytechnic State University. In 1975, he turned professional after his sophomore season due to the university's dropping its NCAA Division II golf team.

Professional career
In the late 1970s, Roberts worked for Dennis Pogue as an assistant pro at San Luis Obispo Golf and Country Club as well as Morro Bay Golf Course. He won the Foot-Joy PGA Assistant Professional Championship of 1979 and was second in 1980. The first professional tour where he briefly competed was the PGA Tour of Australasia, after his 1979 PGA victory.

On his fifth attempt, Roberts earned his PGA Tour card at the PGA Tour Qualification Tournament in 1980 for the 1981 season. He returned to the tournament in 1981, 1982, 1986 and 1987, earning his card every year except 1981. He did not get his first win on the PGA Tour until 1994 at age 38, yet it sparked a nine-season run of eight victories. His career earnings are over $15 million. He is known as "Boss of the Moss" for his putting skills. He has featured in the top 20 of the Official World Golf Rankings.

Roberts' best finish in a major was tie for 2nd place at the 1994 U.S. Open. He contended in an 18-hole playoff with Ernie Els and Colin Montgomerie. Montgomerie was eliminated. An additional pair of sudden-death holes gave Els the title.

Roberts played for the United States in the 1995 Ryder Cup, 1994 and 2000 Presidents Cups, and 2001 UBS Warburg Cup. He was 3–1 at the Ryder Cup, 4-2-1 at the Presidents Cups, and 1–2 at the UBS Warburg Cup. Of the four team events, only the Ryder Cup team lost. He was a co-assistant captain for the 2006 Ryder Cup which was also defeated by the European team.

After concentrating on the Champions Tour in 2006, Roberts went without a PGA Tour card for the 2007 and 2008 seasons, passing on using his exemption for being among the top 50 in career earnings. He used the exemption for the 2009 season.

Senior career
In 2005, Roberts joined the Champions Tour. His first senior win came in his third event at the JELD-WEN Tradition, one of five senior majors. He defeated Dana Quigley in a two-hole sudden-death playoff.

In 2006, Roberts became the first golfer to open a Champions Tour season with three wins. Later that season he won his second senior major by beating Eduardo Romero in a playoff at the Senior British Open. He won the Byron Nelson Award for lowest average stroke total per round.

In 2009, he won his second Senior British Open title after beating Fred Funk and Mark McNulty in a playoff. He won a month later in August at the Boeing Classic, where he denied Mark O'Meara his first Champions Tour victory, defeating him by one stroke after making birdie on the final hole. The GWAA voted him Player of the Year.

He broke 54-hole tournament record for lowest score in relationship to par (25-under) and most birdies (26) as well as sharing lowest score (191). The marks were set largely due to scoring a career-best 61 in the final round of his 2006 MasterCard Championship at Hualalai win.

Other achievements
Roberts hosts the annual Loren Roberts Celebrity Pro-Am in May at Spring Creek Ranch in Collierville, Tennessee. Its first year was 1995. The benefitting charity is Le Bonheur Children's Medical Center of Memphis, Tennessee.

Roberts was named Professional co-Athlete of the Year by the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame in 1995 and 2007. He was inducted into the Cal Poly-SLO Athletics Hall of Fame in 1998. The Tennessee Golf Foundation inducted him into the Tennessee Golf Hall of Fame in 2006. He has been a resident of Germantown, Tennessee, since the 1980s.

Roberts wrote Focus: The Name of the Game with fellow PGA Tour golfers Scott Simpson and Larry Mize. The 128-page book was published by J. Countryman in 1999.

PGA Tour wins (8)
PGA Tour playoff record (2–1)

Other wins (5)
This list may be incomplete.
 * 1979 Foot-Joy PGA Assistant Professional Championship
 * 1992 Ben Hogan Pebble Beach Invitational
 * 1997 Callaway Golf Pebble Beach Invitational
 * 1999 Tennessee Open
 * 2010 Straight Down Fall Classic (with Michael Rowley)

Champions Tour wins (13)
Champions Tour playoff record (3–2)

Results in major championships
{{legend|yellow|Top 10}} {{legend|#eeeeee|Did not play}} CUT = missed the halfway cut WD = withdrew "T" indicates a tie for a place

Summary

 * Most consecutive cuts made – 9 (1991 U.S. Open – 1995 Masters)
 * Longest streak of top-10s – 3 (2000 Masters – 2000 Open Championship)

Results in The Players Championship
{{legend|yellow|Top 10}} {{legend|#eeeeee|Did not play}} CUT = missed the halfway cut "T" indicates a tie for a place

Results in World Golf Championships
1Cancelled due to 9/11 {{legend|yellow|Top 10}} {{legend|#eeeeee|Did not play}} QF, R16, R32, R64 = Round in which player lost in match play "T" = Tied NT = No tournament

Results timeline
Results not in chronological order before 2017. {{legend|lime|Win}} {{legend|yellow|Top 10}} {{legend|#eeeeee|Did not play}} CUT = missed the halfway cut WD = withdrew "T" indicates a tie for a place NT = No tournament due to COVID-19 pandemic

U.S. national team appearances
This list may be incomplete.

Professional
 * Ryder Cup: 1995
 * Presidents Cup: 1994 (winners), 2000 (winners)
 * UBS Warburg Cup: 2001 (winners)

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Talk:Jack Lang (French politician)

sexual abuse of morroco boys and links to Jeffery Epstein, supports eliminating age of consent and legalizing rape
Former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn's ally Jack Lang, has been accused of an orgy with little boys in Morocco. He is a friend of Jeffery Epstein publicly supported the 1977 movement against an age of consent in French and the decriminalization of rape in France.
 * The sourcing for the orgy accusation seems weak to me. The Indian Express article is citing the Daily Mail, which isn't encouraging.  I looked around for news about these accusations and found articles at BBC, The Guardian, The Wall Street Journal, and The Independent.  None of them mention Lang.  They all explicitly state that the accuser, Luc Ferry, didn't give any specific name.  Also, all the articles I could find about this incident are from 2011.  Between the lack of coverage over time, and the fact that the best sources I found don't actually name Lang, I don't think it's appropriate for inclusion. Squeakachu (talk) 07:40, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

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Why is he called Jack Lang? (and not 'Jacques'?) Does he have anglo saxon origins?
 * No he has no anglo saxon origin. I guess that English sounding first names were popular in France at the beginning of WWII.Hektor 15:25, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Let us hope that Jack Lang is appointed leader of the French Socialist party and replaces Sarkozy as President. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.99.62.114 (talk) 10:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Controversies concerning sexuality

 * I've deleted this section 3 June 2011 because 1 it's been deleted in the French BLP from which I was essentially translating and 2 because presently, in the light of the Luc Ferry remarks concerning what appear merely to be old rumours, it's plainly contentious per WP:BLP FightingMac (talk) 14:17, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

The paragraphy on 'Controversies concerning sexuality' needs better sources than an article from 'The Irish Catholic' (whose point of view is not what you would call neutral) and the website of an obscure association (with alleged links to French extreme-right). References from established newspapers would be better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.126.123.135 (talk) 06:39, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The paragraph was just a translation of an established section in the French article (but predictably that's been deleted at the time of writing following the Luc Ferry remarks i.e. it was greatly expanded and then blanked altogether, usual Wikipedia thing). That was the best, I think the only, English language reference I could find and I thought it interesting and notable enought to cite. I do understand the irony :-) but they're not all kiddy fiddlers, come on. By all means replace if you can find a better source, but I do ask you to reflect whether it's genuinely better. I thought it a good third party source. FightingMac (talk) 13:36, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Only website in the references is Association Internationale des Victimes de l'Inceste which is scarcely obscure (it successfully campaigned to reintroduce laws against incest, scrapped after the Revolution) and doesn't have extreme right-wing leanings that I know of (and et alors? BTW if it does, this is France). I'll look to see if I can provide a translation of the French AIVI site to flesh out the English wiki entry. But all these remarks have reliable RS French sources. Of course providing English ones is harder. FightingMac (talk) 03:38, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Curiously there are no articles in the French Wiki. There was a BLP for an 'Isabelle Aubry' the founder, but apparently for another person and it was deleted because it was a copy of a self-advertising website. I'll look for another source for the 'Gai Pied' remark. FightingMac (talk) 03:45, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I don't understand this article about Jack Lang. In France, he's not known for the "controversies concerning sexuality", but for being a Minister of culture. One of the two greatet Ministers of Culture in France (the other is André Malraux).

Here, you (=people in a general way) characterize him as s.o. working for President Nicolas Sarkozy, and for the 'Controversies concerning sexuality'. And... How do you know he's jew? --Sorcierbob (talk) 12:49, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, Sorcierbob. I'll look for the stuff about him being Jewish. WP:BLP policy is that religious or ethnic affinities shouldn't be included, unless the subject has publicly identified with them and it's notable for the article. Regarding 'controversies concerning sexuality' he indeed is notable for that. I merely translated the relevant section in his French BLP (currently deleted as per comment above, but I expect it will be restored after the Luc Ferry business blows over) FightingMac (talk) 13:36, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've deleted the 'Jewish ancestry' bit because the source isn't cited, no identification, not notable. Thank you. FightingMac (talk) 13:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

@ IP 187.114.165.182 (Salvador, Brazil)
I deleted your 'raised as a Jew' because it's not in the source you cite and neither is that source a reliable source. In general WP:BLP has two tests for citing ethnicity and religious affiliation 1 the subject must have publicly identified with the ethnicity or affiliation 2 it's notable for the subject. Neither appears to be true for Jack Lang on internet RS at any rate. I ask you to respect community policy and not to include content about his alleged Jewishness unless you have multiple RS you can cite. I am copying this to his talk page with your source and addressing your IP. Thank you. FightingMac (talk) 13:57, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I find it disturbing that there are interests that want personal information concerning religion and sexual orientation suppressed. This may not be the work of the subjects of the articles or their supporters – there are many in France who believe that everyone has a strong right to “privacy”. I noted that on the Dominique Strauss Kahn Wiki page in French, at the time of the outbreak of the scandal in May 2011, the article about him in English and other languages contained more information about his religious and sexual ways than that in French. Now I see that even the article in English for Jack Lang is getting hit. As regards whether mention should or should not be made of his family origins, there is a more complete and erudite discussion on the same topic on the Dominique Strauss Kahn Wikipedia pages. It’ll be just a question of time before more information is made available here on Jack Lang. cckkab (talk) 12:42, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

 * Hi Cckkab. Thanks for your input. No 'interests' here, honest, but we do have to adhere to a common policy. Jimmy Wales has said that for contentious issues, such as would appear to be the case here, it should be trivial to provide multiple reliable sources if the claim is true. I invite you to do that, lets say 5 RS as a ballpark figure. Find those and I shan't delete, promise. Note that IP 187.114.165.182 from Salvador in Brazil's source didn't say anything of the sort - check it out. Probably one of those 'he's a Jew, so let's call him a Jew' types.

 * It's different with 'categorisation' issues. There we have to have the two tests I mention above.

 * Regarding DSK the debate went on for ever. Adjectival bore. No idea what the consensus was. I wouldn't exactly have called the discussion 'erudite'. As for 'complicated' that wasn't my impression either. Just quite fantastically tedious.

 * In what way are you 'disturbed'? Just interested. FightingMac (talk) 13:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

 * I am "disturbed" by the willingness of some to want to occult information that is, for me, of obvious value and interest. Cultural/religious background falls into that category and is easily verifiable and well sources. As for facts re sexual views (if not crimes), there is quite some information in these articles and TV interviews (from a brief search - there is a lot more, so widespread collaboration from varied sources, and I would think highly relevant to the Wikipedia article.  Eg http://www.diatala.org/article-jack-lang-la-sexualite-puerile-est-encore-un-continent-interdit-reseau-pedophile-coral-75479505.html and http://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2011/05/31/french-socialists-sweetness-and-light-just-subversive/  and http://www.fdesouche.com/214703-un-ancien-ministre-pedophile-selon-luc-ferry/comment-page-17 and http://aquelquespasdela.wordpress.com/2011/06/01/excusez-moi-si-je-deborde/ and so on and so on cckkab (talk) 13:28, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

 * Yes, fair enough. I didn't mean to imply that the interest was unfounded. But you have to concede that the sources you cite aren't RS in Wikipedia policy and that's what matters here. Interesting though, thanks - appreciated. FightingMac (talk) 14:39, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

@Malick78 Re: Controversies concerning sexuality
Hi Malick78

I see you've restored the section 'Contoversies concerning sexuality' I had translated from French section and which I subsequently blanked.

I shan't revert you but I want to make it clear that I don't support you in restoring it. It was not just that the corresponding section had been blanked in the French article but also because Luc Ferry's recent remarks had been, unwarrantedly it seems, interpreted as referring to Lang. In those circumstances it seemed right to me to delete the section and indeed I don't support its restoration.

Thank you. FightingMac (talk) 22:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

 * I see that someone not English, or at any rate with a very imperfect grasp of English, has added some remarks. I would like to blank the entire section as the French have. If I don't see sensible reason why not here a few days on, that's what I shall do.

 * Thank you. FightingMac (talk) 05:37, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

 * I've now copy-edited the remarks as far as I can construe them and removed the POV template. I will balnk the section a week or so hence unless I see requests not to here. FightingMac (talk) 17:15, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

"gassed"
I changed to "died". "Killed" would be acceptable if there is evidence, but although there were claims in the post-war period that Ravensbruck had a gas chamber, nowhere is that claimed today. Certainly not in the relevant Wikipedia article. For all camps where gassing is claimed, it did not happen as late as 1945. She probably died in the catastrophic conditions of epidemic and starvation that swept the camps in 1945.Channelwatcher (talk) 18:11, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Jew?
The article says his paternal side was Jewish. I don't know whether this is enough to put him in the category:French Jews or not, since usually only maternal side counts for being a Jew.--Carnby (talk) 14:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

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Dulce River (Argentina)

The Dulce River (in Spanish Río Dulce, in Quechua Misky Mayu) is the most important river in the Argentine province of Santiago del Estero.

The Dulce River's source is in Tucumán Province under the name of Salí River, though it receives tributaries from Salta Province, and changes names when reaching Santiago del Estero. It runs 450 km southeast throughout the province, and then feeds the Río Hondo in Córdoba Province before emptying into the Mar Chiquita salt lake.

There is also a dam in the limit with Tucumán Province called Río Hondo dam, with a lake formatted with the connection of four rivers of Tucumán. This lake is experiencing pollution due to the lack of control of the emissions of polluting substances into the Salí River, caused mainly by the pulpmills located in Tucumán.

The river runs through the Argentine Espinal ecoregion. It is the main source of water for irrigation for the arid lands of Santiago del Estero. The Los Quiroga Dam in the northwest, finished in 1956, provides water for that area, but has produced a decrease in the precipitations of the southeastern part of the province.

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WHPX-TV

WHPX-TV (channel 26) is a television station licensed to New London, Connecticut, United States, serving as the Ion Television affiliate for the Hartford–New Haven market. The station is owned by Inyo Broadcast Holdings, and maintains offices in New London and a transmitter on Rattlesnake Mountain in Farmington, Connecticut.

Prior to 2021, WHPX-TV's facilities served as the main studio for Federal Communications Commission (FCC) purposes for sister station WLWC and former sister station WPXQ-TV in Providence, Rhode Island.

History
The station began operation on September 15, 1986, as independent station WTWS, with transmitter in the Oakdale neighborhood of Montville near Lake Konomoc. It was owned by C&S Broadcasting with majority owner Neil Denenberg and ran a low-budget general entertainment format. In 1988, the station took over some programming from WHCT-TV (channel 18, now Univision affiliate WUVN) as a result of that station's financial problems.

In 1990, the station also began to acquire programming that WTXX (channel 20, now WCCT-TV) chose not to renew. It also offered to pick up WTXX's programming inventory in 1992, but WTXX's owner (Renaissance Broadcasting) declined.

The station had added more infomercials to its lineup by 1993. Two years later, it was sold to Paxson Communications, and switched to Paxson's standard schedule of religious programming in the morning, infomercials in the afternoon and evenings, and worship programming overnight after affiliating with inTV. The rights to its programming were acquired by LIN Television, which placed those shows on WTVU (channel 59, now WCTX).

Paxson then began programming WHCT in 1997, and sold WTWS to Roberts Broadcasting. Roberts, in turn, sold the station to DP Media the following year. However, DP Media was owned by—and named for—Devon Paxson, son of Paxson Communications founder Bud Paxson. Paxson then cut its ties with WHCT and took control of WTWS. The station then affiliated with Pax TV (the predecessor to Ion Television) that year, and changed its call letters to WHPX-TV to reflect its affiliation. Paxson bought DP Media in 2000.

From 2001 until 2005, WHPX re-aired newscasts produced by NBC owned-and-operated station WVIT (channel 30).

Subchannels
The station's signal is multiplexed:

Analog-to-digital conversion
WHPX-TV shut down its analog signal, over UHF channel 26, on February 17, 2009, to conclude the federally mandated transition from analog to digital television. The station's digital signal relocated from its pre-transition UHF channel 34 to channel 26.

In conjunction with the repack of Connecticut television stations on August 2, 2019, WHPX now transmits on channel 28 from Rattlesnake Mountain in Farmington where many Connecticut television station transmitters are located.

title: WHPX-TV