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User talk:Agtfjott

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Cool stuff

 * Wooden Churches of Maramureş
 * images
 * image
 * image
 * Images from Vågen in Stavanger, also in no:Stavanger

Dictionary

 * aisle, — a row down the middle of the church with a set of pews on each side
 * Apse — the semi-circular or polygonal section of the sanctuary at the liturgical east end beyond the altar
 * Chancel — refers to the part of a church near the main altar used by the priests and open to the choir
 * Choir — the part of a church `between the altar and the nave`
 * Chevet — radiating chapels outside the choir aisle
 * Ambulatory — a curving aisle in the apse
 * Transepts, — radiates out from the nave
 * Presbytery, — the area is reserved for the clergy

 * Cathedral diagram
 * Cathedral architecture
 * Church
 * Basilica

Todo

 * Got no good senic image of Nordre Land (Really got no idea how to take this.. :)
 * Should have an image from the air sport center in Nordre Land
 * Need some interesting things from Etnedal (What about the rock carvings? Lunde bru? Synnfjell?)
 * For norwegian artists, writers, musicians I have some sources... Can this be used?
 * Should add articles about WWII in Valdres, especially the fighting at Høljarast, Breidablikk, Bagn, Bagnsbergatn
 * Perhaps something about the old wooden hotels
 * Remember Ridder spranget
 * Missing Hegge stave church in Øystre Slidre
 * Missing Høre stave church in Vang (Lær deg kommunegrensene gutt!:p )
 * Missing Hedal stave church in Sør-Aurdal
 * Asked to get a photo of Lunde bru in Etnedal
 * Probably should take a photo of Fønhus bru in Sør-Aurdal (kind of roman arc bridge made by logs)
 * Check out the images from Sperillen
 * Check out the images from Fjorda
 * Get some images from Oslos seaside and the outdoor activities on the fjord
 * Get an image of Gol stave church at Bygdø museum
 * Check out Slidre bygdetun and see if this is interesting
 * Note the "What to see in Etnedal muncipality, this seems to be a logical place to add pictures (check out this with the other wikipedians)
 * The old stories about the knights in Sør-Aurdal and in Vang, should it be done something about them? (Ridderspranget)
 * What about logging, fløtning (floating??? :D) etc..
 * A note about Vassfaret? What about the places in there?
 * My list of postal codes for each muncipality, is it usefull for anything?
 * At Gol stave church (the replica) there is a major turist trap (The Medival Park) with some interesting stuff ;/
 * Meteor crater at Nesbyen, what is this? Sounds cool.
 * I have some images from Läckö Castle, upload them if anyone writes an article

Local places
I have the necessary data to generate a list of places within a muncipality. This would be a list of the places with an assigned postal code and an estimate of the size.

This wouldn't work out for all places. Larger cities are subdivided in areas with their own postal code and postal place. I'm not sure if I can always mark such ares within a city.

Probably it would be best to build a list with a script and add each subsection manually to each muncipality.

Famous residents
I've made some bots to generate lists of authors, musicians and others. Those could make lists of the same persons for the famous residents in the muncipalities. The only thing necessary to do this is to invert the person names into muncipality names.

Probably I need a bot to get them out of my article base also. And I'm not quite sure if I always has a basic category, ie I may have an oboist which isn't a musician.

Also, if I do this I have to automate the update process somehow. A person moving doesn't create a problem but when a musician writes a book all enlistments should change.

The list would contain about 1200 norwegian persons within the category art on the list of Norwegians, estimated to reach 2500-3000 when completed.

Before I do this there should be some consencus that this is in fact something wanted.

A more limited list is Kunstnere — next on list Einar (Halfdan) Berger

Various usefull links

 * WikiProject_Norway

Some of the following links are removed from article pages because they are not always reliable!
 * Rock carvings in Scandinavia — in Norwegian

Nordre Land

 * Please accept my apologies if I've in any way offended (the comment on spelling was intended to be critical of my own spelling as I went back to correct it)! The materials & photos you’ve added are great. They add a great deal to the appreciation of the area, which is important for those of us who have not yet visited it.

 * Part of my comment was that with either the Firefox or the Netscape browser (as implemented on my older machine), the Nordre Land photos wind up on the lower right hand side, way down under the Infobox. Hard for me on my browser to see there – I have to scroll down over a blank region.  That’s why I made a change – but I’ll defer to your (the contributor’s) judgment as to what is best.
 * Perhaps you’d consider something like what is shown here? One image on the left and one image shown on the right.
 * Williamborg 21:33, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

No problem, I simply hasn't given it a thought! I belive the layout should be adapted as people see it fits when more text is added to the pages.

And when it comes to the language, spellig and so forth, .. I add the facts and the story about the places and some other must figure out the correct grammer! :)

Agtfjott

An other thing, I don't have photos of all the places but if you or someone else drops me a note I could take the time to take a couple of images. Most of the time it won't be high quality high res as it takes to much time fumbling with my Zeiss, even if that produce great picture quality.

The photos I've posted is mostly snapshots with a Minolta digital.

Agtfjott

Photos & Other Comment

 * You must live in the area, if you are so kind as to offer to take photos! Almost any photo in any municipality in Oppland or adjacent Hedmark or ___ would be great. The ones you've just been adding make it a great pleasure to go back over the various municipalities. You and your Minolta digital do a very good job indeed. Thanks!
 * Etnedal does not get mention in any of the resources I have here in the states. I 'borrowed' eveything of interest about it on the German and Norsk Wiki pages, so can't add anything now.
 * Your suggestion on articles about WWII in Valdres is not anything I can help with immediately either. But the comment does point out the value of connecting the various articles by citing the Landscape they fall into, since manyof the histories follow the landscape designation rather than the current politicaql designation. I may pursue that next.
 * Best regards - Williamborg 21:33, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I live in Valdres and works in Oslo. I'll take a look, just tell me what you want.

Etnedal is a small place really. Of the more interesting things from Etnedal is an author which have written a lot of bucks about the weird people living there. I wonder if it would be possible to use something from him. He is deceased a long time ago.

When it comes to WWII I've have an idea which includes a friend which do know a lot about it.

Agtfjott

Late Night Thoughts on Etnedal

 * The Etnedal coat of arms shows the old stone-arch bridge, Lundebru. Any chance you have a photo of it?
 * Your suggestion of the Etnadal author who has written about the weird people there is also interesting.
 * Best regards - Williamborg

Jupp. It's on my list.

The coat of arms from Sør-Aurdal is a combination of the archs on the stave churches and of a box with some bones of a saint. I belive it is Olav Trygvason but I'm not sure.

The coat of arms from Nordre Land is two fløtningshaker, a tool used during fløtning.. What is that in english.. :O

Agtfjott

"Cant Hooks" & "Peavies"

 * You ask, "The coat of arms from Nordre Land is two fløtningshaker, a tool used during fløtning. What is that in english?"
 * Not going to find 'fløtningshaker' in Haugen's Norwegian English Dictionary. But when I was a kid in Minnesota, we used "Cant Hooks" & "Peavies" for rolling timber & breaking up log jams (like hay saws, you don't see them except in museums anymore). The actual tool in the Nordre Land coat of arms looks somewhat different than either of these tools, but a "Cant Hook" is probably a reasonably accurate translation which older Americans will understand.
 * Best Regards Williamborg

Fjord, Vatn or Sjø?

 * A picture of Randsfjorden might enhance Søndre Land or Gjøvik. Might you have one?

 * Is there some easy rule by which one can tell whether a lake should be designated a Fjord, Vatn or Sjø?

 * Best Williamborg

 * Gjøvik is located by Mjøsa, not by Randsfjorden.
 * I have pictures of both but on slides and I don't have a slidescanner for the moment.
 * In Søndre land you have some really puictoresque views from Hov i Land, the local administrative center.

 * Btw, try http://www.kulturnett.no/geografisknavigering/geografisknavigering_visning.jsp?fylke=T946673&kommune=T906621
 * this shows a map for the individual muncipalities with some additional information.

 * On Fjord, Vatn, Sjø. This is old words and have changed meaning over the years. Basically, a Fjord is a big lake which is narrow and long. Often located along the costline but not always, Randsfjorden is in the inland while Vestfjorden is outside Bodø and goes all the way out to Lofoten.
 * A lake called Vatn is small, imagine something where you stroll along and goes fishing. I slightly remember someone once said you walk around a Vatn in a couple of hours while you walk around a fjord in a couple of days while you grumble over how fast it would be to cross.
 * A Sjø is large but not narrow as a fjord. It is not often used as a name on a lake, most often as an reference to the ocean. Examples of lakes are Vannsjø (Råde, Østfold)..
 * Then Mjøsa pops up quite often on big lakes. Mjøsa as the one big lake betveen Gjøvik-Lillehammer-Hamar is one but you have also others like Vangsmjøsa (Vang, Oppland) and Møsvann Vinje, Telemark.

Fjord, Vatn, Sjø

 * Excellent explanation of Fjord, Vatn, Sjø. Hadn't realized mjøsa was a separate term in its own right, as opposed to a specific lake.
 * And my misplacing Gjøvik reaffrims the need to have my contributions carefully proofed.
 * Mange takk Williamborg

 * I don't know why mjøsa pops up in a number of places, I think you must get a proper explanation of that from a lingvisist Agtfjott 08:09, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Kulturnett.no
I placed the Delete template because there was nothing there of import when you created it. Further, if there's a Deletion Request, it's not supposed to be removed until it's been checked over by an admin. That being said, I still see nothing of import there; it's relatively unclear as to what Kulturnett is, as well as what "Links to the mapping service in Wikipedia is by permission" means. Kulturnett could be a source for Wikipedia but anything would be required to be licensed under the GFDL as well as be translated into English. Is that possible? RasputinAXP  talk  *  contribs  18:13, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The page contains links to an article with an example, Vågå. I was writing the article when the marker was placed and I either had to revert my edit or re-add the marker on the new page, which I see no point in doing as there was no explanation why it was added in the first place.

 * I'm in contact with the bureau about using more info from them and I guess it will be clearer what kind of copyleft/-right they want to use. If I should guess it is more likely they use a creative commons than GFDL.

 * I made a note about this on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Norway so it is better to take furter discussion there.

 * Agtfjott 18:58, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

No Kulturnett.no

 * Unfortunately I seem to recall Kulturnett.no shows up only if you are a resident of Norway. It has been discussed several times on Norway List, and, if memory serves, other maps are preferred. Couldn’t get to it on either of the machines I tried today.  Hope someone corrects me, but… Williamborg

 * I make a note about it and talk to them, it wasn't sometning my contact person was aware of. Wouldn't be the first place I run into this, stupid as it is. Several of the major norwegian isp's run from abroad so blocking on ip-addresses isn't very likely to work out anyhow. Agtfjott 08:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * We are talking about having a meeting discussing how they can contribute. If anyone have any ideas, please tell me! Agtfjott 08:16, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Whatever you (or someone) did, Kulturnett.no comes through nicely now.

 * You might also suggest to Kulturnett.no that they encourage local municipalities to contribute photos of their regions to the Wikipedia Commons. It is amazing how much better any article is if someone has posted photographs or maps.

 * Thanks & best regards Williamborg 15:30, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Museums
Various stuff

Bagn Bygdesamling
Have been in contact with Bagn Bygdesamling at earlyer occasions and they are willing to contribute if possible.

Hadeland Folkemuseum
One nice lady working at Hadeland Folkemuseum want to contribute if she gets time. I'll set up a basic page with a few photos.

Valdres Folkemuseum
Wasn't anyone off the staff at Valdres Folkemuseum when I visited but one of the guides contributed an info booklet about the museum.

The stave churches
Added a couple of missing churches. Added also some text but it is better to write something a bit more consistent than what it would be as I shuttled back and forth adding missing pieces. I did not add anything if the original article would be radically changed in structure.

Added linking from the muncipalities to the churches. A bit confusing as some referer to the muncipality while other referers to local villages. One even used a muncipality which was merged.

The names are now according to what I belive is the correct local name. Hopefully this doesn't clash with some rules defined somewhere I don't know of. No articles are moved, it is only the leading in the article which is changed. Still the name from the link will be prominent so I don't think this leads to any confusion.

Agtfjott 16:32, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Hello! The only reason that I changed the name in the text was to make it consistent with the article's title (and I changed the Norwegian name to lowercase because that's how it is in the Norwegian Wikipedia and in the external article).  The articles should all be consistent, but I don't know know whether that should be the Norwegian or the English names.  I suppose that, as this is the English Wikipedia, the English form should be preferred, especially as it's unlikely that one could argue that the Norwegian form is the more common among English-speakers.  How many articles are there? --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 08:45, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * It's about 30 articles, depending on wetter I want to write something about churches which is more or less rebuilt or not. They are all listed in stave churches. Even Riksantikvaren, the authority in Norway thats in charge messes with the names. Flesberg Stavkirke uses one form in the header of the document and an other within the body text. I don't thing it matters to much.
 * It is a description of the church, the same time it is also a name of the church. Probably we can go for whatever we choose. Agtfjott 08:52, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Not sure I understand the naming issue here, but...
 * We do have a naming convention for Norwegian places names in the English Wiki. See WikiProject Norway which states: "For administrative units and geographical entities, the official Norwegian name is used for the article, with redirects for English names when known. There is no reason to invent new English names."
 * As to "it's unlikely that one could argue that the Norwegian form is the more common among English-speakers." Actually, I cna make a rather compelling argument to that effect. If one checks guide books written in English these days, they use the Norwegian spellings (even the modern Baedeker's has moved to this convention although historically it Anglicized). Its only the older material that has Anglicized the names, and you can find 3-4 variations of a particular place name in older English literature (One of my favorite examples is Vågå, which appears as Vaaga, Vaagaa, Vaage, Waaga, & Vaga in various older English books. ). So this provides a pretty good reason to stick with the Norwegian spelling unless there is a compelling English usage. Williamborg 14:12, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

If all the articles are the same length as the Grip one, would it makes sense to have one article on Norwegian stave churches, and merge all the stub-articles on individual churches? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 08:59, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I belive an article as short as Grip stave church isn't very usefull. An example of what I want to do is something like Reinli stave church. It is part of a collection of articles related to muncipalities in Valdres. My idea was to start filling in some information and pictures, especially the churches, museums and archeological sites. Perhaps also a bit about nature. Agtfjott 09:10, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

The sources under external links should be of pretty good quality. Insted of linking to articles, it seems like the url's was very fragile, I linked to the site as such. This means it is necessary to navigate a bit to find the english page (top-right corner) and then click on the actual church. It seems so obious I prefered this to a very-very long and potential fragile url. Agtfjott 18:47, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Reinli stave church is attractive, and if all the article were like that, it would certainly be better to have them separate rather than merged. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 20:39, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout that. I didn't realize you had several similar articles as works in progress. Hang tight and I'll restore it. Thanks for letting me know. Best, Lucky 6.9 21:49, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * All set. Have fun! - Lucky 6.9 21:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. It looks like you have your work cut out for you!  This is quite an undertaking and I apologize once more for pulling the trigger on that Tinglestad article.  I wish you well with it. - Lucky 6.9 21:55, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Please see question under Williamborg about stone church article. Takk.

Great Images
Not only are these beautiful pictures. They help us understand the area better. Thanks! Williamborg 01:06, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Sicilian images
Any image owuld be gratefully received. Especially any that may be of use here. Thanks a lot Giano | talk 06:40, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Have not any of those! :) Agtfjott 07:34, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Arsoning and vandalism of Churches in Norway
Arsoning and vandalism of Churches in Norway become a serious problem in the last years of 20th century. After nearly a millenia paganism grows in some closed groups, most notably around some music groups, and one of the most prominent ones are fronted by Varg Vikernes.

Many of the churches in Norway now has automatic fire extinguishers and survailance systems, some even have regular guards on patrol.

Arsoning by year
The lists are incomplete.

1992
It is estimated that the net loss in the fires exceeds NOK80 million
 * Røa church in Oslo; attemted arsoning during easter
 * May, Storetveit church in Bergen, attempted arsoning in the church tower, Varg Vikernes, later tried and convicted for the arsoning, two other youths at trial and awaits sentences
 * June 5, Fantoft stave church outside Bergen burns to the ground. The private owned church had no automatic fire extinguisher or survailance system. The fire ignites a debat in the newspapers about security measures for the remaining churches. Later Varg Vikernes is put at trial and convicted by the judges but dismissed by the jurors, – the judges refuses to do anything about it as Vikernes already has maximum sentence in Norway
 * August 1, Revheim church in Stavanger is totally destroyed by arsoning after two young boys break in and makes a camp fire on the altar. The boys are 15 and 17 years old and the reason behind is assumed to be satanism. Later a third boy is also conected to the arsoning.
 * August 23, Holmenkollen chapel in Oslo burns to the ground. Bård "Faust" Eithun, Euronymous, and Varg Vikernes piled up bibles and hymnals, poured gasoline on them, and lit them.
 * September 13, Skjold church in Vindafjord in Ryfylke burns to the ground. The police conclusion is that the fire starts after a lightning strike. Later the conclusion is revoked and Varg Vikernes is put at trial and convicted of arsoning, together with a 19 years old man from Nesodden which gets a verdict of 16 months imprisonment
 * September, Ormøya church in Oslo, attempted arsoning, some damages, a youth put on trial
 * September/October, Chapel at Kolbotn sanctuary in Oppegård, attempted arsoning, same youth as in the Ormøya case
 * October 3, Hauketo and Prinsdal church, arsoning and partially destroyed, the same youth as in the Ormøya case
 * December 24, Åsane church outside Bergen is totally destroyed by fire. The police indicates the fire could be arsonning. Later two men, one is Varg Vikernes, is put at trial and convicted of arsoning
 * December 25, The Methodistchurch in Sarpsborg burns. During fire extingushing a fireman dies.

1993

 * January 15, The goverment "vedtar å bevilge" NOK7 million in 1993 to immidiate safty measures. This is the beginning a program over several years also covering chuches from the medieval period and wooden churches form the 17th century and 18th century
 * March, Methodist church in Hammerfest; a youth confessed he had put a boy scout flag on fire, the altar piece, (prekestol) and a piano was destroyed in the fire
 * April, Myre church at Øksnes in Nordland; attempted arsoning, guardians stopped the fire before the church got serious damage
 * May, Adventist church on Jeløya outside Moss; attempted arsoning, a man confessed after short time and he and another man is put to trial
 * Chapel at Bodø sanctuary i Bodø; two young boys have confessed to arsoning of the chapel, which got serious damages
 * September, Røa church in Oslo; attempted arsoning by puting two garbage cans on fire besides the church, without any success

1992

 * Jun 5, Fantoft stavkirke ved Bergen brenner ned. Den privateide kirken var uten brannvarslingsanlegg. Brannen starter en avisdebatt der kravet om bedre sikring av de 28 gjenværende stavkirker kommer både fra kirkelige, kommunale og statlige myndigheter.
 * Aug 1 Revheim kirke ved Stavanger totalskades av en brann som starter ved at unggutter bryter seg inn og tenner bål på kirkens alter. Guttene i 15-17 års alderen antas å være inspirert av satandyrking. Et kors fra en gravstøtte utenfor kirken ble i dagene før brannen plassert opp-ned utvendig på kirkeveggen.
 * Aug 23 Holmenkollen kapell i Ris prestegjeld i Oslo brenner ned. Politiets etterforskning konkluderer senere med at brannen ikke var påsatt, men startet ved en feil i kapellets elektriske anlegg. (hva var bakgrunnen for konklusjonene?)
 * Sep 13 Skjold kirke i Vindafjord i Ryfylke brenner ned. Den 105 år gamle kirken er den femte som brenner ned i Norge på under ett år. Etterforskningen kommer til at lynnedslag er brannårsak.
 * Okt 3 Hauketo kirke i Nordstrand prestegjeld i Oslo brenner ned.
 * Des 24 Åsane kirke ved Bergen totalskades av brann. Politiet antyder at brannen som totalskadet kirken fra 1600-tallet, kan være påsatt.
 * Des 25 Metodistkirken i Sarpsborg brenner. Under slukking av brannen omkommer en røykdykker fra brannvesenet i byen.

 * Røa church in Oslo; attemted arsoning during easter
 * Storetveit church in Bergen: attempted arsoning in the church tower in mai, Varg Vikernes, — The count, tried and convicted for the arsoning, two other youths at trial and awaits sentences (status?)
 * Fantoft stave church in Bergen: tatally destroyed due to arsoning the night of june 6th, Varg Vikernes was at trial and convicted by the judges but dismissed by the jurors

 * Revheim kirke i Stavanger: ble antent i august. Store skader på selve kirkebygget, mesteparten av inventaret ødelagt. Tre unggutter innrømmet forholdet, og er senere dømt for det.
 * Holmenkollen chapel in Oslo; brant ned til grunnen etter ildspåsettelse i august. To menn, deriblant Varg Vikernes, dømt for å ha vært med på antenne brannen.
 * Skjold kirke i Vindafjord, Rogaland: nedbrent etter påsatt brann i september. Varg Vikernes dømt for medvirkning eller for å ha påtent kirken.
 * Ormøya kirke på Ormøya i Oslo: branntilløp i september. Noen skader. Påtent. En ungdom siktet i saken.
 * Kolbotn gravkapell i Oppegård: påtent september/oktober, men brant ikke ned. Samme ungdom siktet som i Ormøya-saken.
 * Hauketo og Prinsdal kirke: påtent i oktober. Kirken ble helt utbrent innvendig, og større deler av takkonstruksjon ble totalskadd. Samme ungdom som er siktet for de to foregående brannene også siktet for denne brannen.
 * Åsane kirke i Bergen: totalskadd i brann natt til julaften. Påsatt. Varg Vikernes dømt for ildspåsettelse. En annen mann har tilstått medvirkning, venter på dom i saken.

 * Methodist church in Sarpsborg; a fireman died during (slokkingen) of the burning church night to 25th of december, and the church burnt down

1993

 * Methodist church in Hammerfest; a youth confessed in march he had put a boy scout flag on fire, the altar piece, (prekestol) and a piano was destroyed in the fire
 * Myre church at Øksnes in Nordland; attempt to arson in april, guardians stopped the fire before the church got serious damage
 * Adventist church on Jeløya outside Moss; attempted arsoning in may, a man (tilsto) after short time and another man is (siktet) together with him
 * Chapel at Bodø sanctuary i Bodø; two young boys have confessed to arsoning of the chapel, which got serious damages
 * Røa church in Oslo; attempted arsoning in september by puting two garbage cans on fire besides the church, without any success

 * Jan 15 Regjeringen vedtar å bevilge sju millioner kroner i 1993 til brannsikring av eldre kirker. Pengene er starten på et fler-årig sikringsarbeid som omfatter middelalderkirker og trekirker fra 1600- og 1700-tallet.

 * Apr 21 Det blir kjent at kirkebrannene i 1992 representerer et verditap på minst 80 millioner kroner.

1994
- Seegård church in Snertingdal north of Gjøvik; on fire during easter, none taken for arsoning
 * Mar 13 Sund kirke på Sotra i Bjørgvin bispedømme brenner ned til grunnen. Brannårsak ukjent.
 * Mar 27 Seegård kirke i Snertingdal i Hamar bispedømme brenner ned. Ingen naturlig brannårsak.
 * Åmot chapel in Modum, Buskerud; four youngsters on trial for arsoning may 17, an old altar piece destroyed
 * The new replica of Gol stave church in Buskerud; a man was cought on spot trying to arson the building the night before May 17
 * Frogn church in Akershus; on fire the night to June 4th, the police works on a hypothesis it was arsoned
 * Jeløy church; attempted arsoning july 7

 * May 16 En 21-åring - den såkalte "Greven" - dømmes i Eidsivating lagmannsrett til 21 års fengsel for overlagt drap, innbrudd, tyverier og kirkebrannene i Holmenkollen kapell i Oslo, Skjold kirke i Vindafjord og Åsane kirke i Bergen.
 * May 16 Råbygget til Gol stavkirke i Tunsberg bispedømme blir forsøkt påtent. 21-årig blir seinere dømt.
 * May 17 Åmot kapell i Modum i Tunsberg bispedømme blir forsøkt påtent. Altertavlen blir ødelagt, mens kirkebygget ikke skades. En 17-åring blir seinere dømt.
 * Jun 3 Mosjøen bedehus i Sør-Hålogaland bispedømme blir totalskadd av brann. Ikke ildspåsettelse.
 * Jun 4 Frogn kirke i Borg bispedømme brenner ned til grunnen. Brannen er trolig påsatt. Uoppklart.
 * Jun 6 Aftenposten melder at Riksantikvaren foreslår omfattende sikringstiltak for 400 eldre kirkebygg for 160-200 millioner kroner.
 * Jun 19 Heni kirke i Gjerdrum i Borg bispedømme blir påtent. Forbipasserende får varslet og slukker brannen. 17-åring tilstår.
 * Jun 28 En 19-årig Notodden-mann dømmes til 16 måneders ubetinget fengsel for å ha medvirket til påtenningen av Skjold kirke. Fra før er en 21-åring dømt for blant annet å ha tent på kirken.
 * Jun 30 En 23-år gammel mann fra Bergen dømmes til tre års fengsel for medvirkning til brenningen av Åsane kirke natt til julaften 1992.
 * Jul 7 Jeløy kirke ved Moss i Borg bispedømme blir påtent. Store brann- og vannskader. Brannen oppklares.
 * Jul 10 En ny stavkirke vigsles av biskop Sigurd Osberg i Gol i Hallingdal. Det er den første stavkirke som er bygd i Norge på 800 år. Kirken er laget som en kopi av gamle Gol stavkirke, som ble flyttet til Norsk Folkemuseum på Bygdøy for over 100 år siden.
 * Jul 21 Odda kirke i Bjørgvin bispedømme påtent utvendig. Sotskader. Ukjent gjerningsmann.
 * Aug 13 Løkken kapell i Meldal i Nidaros bispedømme blir forsøkt påtent, men brannen slokner av seg selv før skaden er for stor. En 20-åring tilstår like etter.
 * Aug 29 En 17-åring fra Gjerdrum varetektfengsles mistenkt for å stå bak brannen i Heni kirke i Akershus. Politiet arresterte først tre 17-åringer fra black metal-miljøet.
 * Aug 30 En 21-årig bergenser dømmes til to år og en måneds fengsel for å ha tent på den da ikke ferdigbygde Gol stavkirke natt til 17. mai 1994.
 * Des 10 Åkra gamle kirke forsøkes påtent med en lighter og en stabel salmebøker. Kirken får bare mindre skader. En 26-årig mann tilstår. Han er tidligere dømt for ildspåsettelser.
 * Des 22 Askim kirke i Borg bispedømme forsøkes påtent.
 * Des 26 Klemetsrud kirke i Oslo bispedømme forsøkes påtent. En eksplosjonsartet brann ødelegger bårehuset inntil kirken.

1995

 * Mai 14 En 27-årig mann anholdes mistenkt for å ha satt fyr på kapellet ved Herre kirke i Telemark 13.mai. Kapellet blir totalskadd i brannen.
 * Mai 25 Såner kirke i Vestby i Borg bispedømme brenner ned til grunnen. Brannen er påtent.
 * Jun 14 Moe kirke i Sandefjord brenner ned til grunnen. Brannårsaken ukjent. Kirkens eies av Det Evangelisk Lutherske Kirkesamfunn.
 * Jul 21 Eidanger kirke i Agder bispedømme forsøkes påtent. To unge menn pågripes. Funn tyder på satanist-inspirerte motiver.
 * Aug 21 Tre personer fra Porsgrunn dømmes til fengsel fra 10 måneder til ett år for å ha påtent Eidanger kirke i Agder bispedømme.
 * Aug 30 En 16-åring får i Moss byrett betinget fengsel i ni måneder for å ha tent på Jeløy kirke i Borg 7.juli 1994. Det er første gang en kirkebrannstifter får betinget fengsel. En 17-åring får seks måneders ubetinget og 12 måneders betinget fengsel for samme forhold.
 * Sep 3 Vågsbygd kirke i Agder forsøkes påtent, men brannvesenet kommer raskt til å hindrer spredning. Skadene begrenser seg til en utbrent dør. En mann siktes for ildspåsettelse noen dager etter.
 * Nov 5 Den nye Hauketo/Prinsdal kirke i Oslo vigsles av biskop Andreas Aarflot. Menigheten har vært uten kirke siden den tidligere kirken gikk tapt i en påsatt brann i 1992. Kirken har koster 12,5 millioner kroner.

1997

 * Feb 27 Jelsa kirke i Suldal- en 350 år gammel trekirke - blir forsøkt påtent, men brannen slukker av seg selv uten å gjøre skade.
 * Aug 24 Fantoft stavkirke i Bergen vigsles av biskop Ole D. Hagesæther. - fem år etter brannen som la kirken i ruiner.

 * Apr 10 Songe bedehus i Tvedestrand brenner ned til grunnen. Det er mistanke om at bannen er påsatt.
 * Apr 15 En 23 år gammel mann varetektsfengsles for medvirkning til brannen i Frogn kirke i 1994 og i Såner kirke i 1995, begge i Borg bispedømme. Fra før er to kvinner på 19 og 23 år siktet for kirkebrannene.
 * Mai 12 80 gravstøtter veltes på Lårdal kirkegård i Vest-Telemark. Flere jernkors blir også snudd opp-ned. En mann i 20-årene melder seg etter kort tid til politiet og tilstår.
 * Sep 21 Førde kirke i Sunnfjord blir påtent, men brannen blir raskt slukket og kirken får bare mindre skader. En 20-åring tilstår få dager etter at han tente på og veltet 50-60 gravstøtter.
 * Sep 22 Natt til søndag blir 155 gravstøtter veltet på Norderhov kirkegård i Tunsberg bispedømme.Det tegnes også satanistsymboler på den gamle middelalderkirken. To 16 og 17 år gamle gutter tilstår et par dager etter.
 * Sep 28 Veldre kirke i Hamar bispedømme brenner ned til grunnen. Kirken er 270 år og uerstattelige verdier går tapt.Det er ikke mistanke om påtenning. Elektrisk feil er mulig brannårsak.
 * Okt 6 Jeløy kirke i Moss påtennes igjen, men bare takkledningen blir brannskadet. Kirken har to ganger tidligere blitt forsøkt nedbrent.
 * Okt 19 130 gravstøtter veltes på gravplassen ved Skålvik kapell i Fjell på Sotra.

1996

 * Jeløy church; attempted arsoning october 6

http://www.kirken.no/Bakgrunn/kavalk9.cfm

2002

 * Bore church; attempted arsoning july 15

2003

 * Åfjord kirke; attempted arsoning on the night of march 15

2004

 * Hinna church in Stavanger; attempted arsoning on the night to july 6

 * Tiller church in Trondheim; attempted arsoning in september

Howdy
Your welcome, thats what I love to do, make articles better! Johann Wolfgang 23:02, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Note

 * User talk:Carnildo, rettighetsproblemer

Deleted image
Hi Agtfjott. Although I have a strong feeling I know you're referring to an image, I'm afraid you've failed to mention which one.

 * First of all, just so you know, I'm currently sorting through a lot of unsourced images.
 * Second, which image is it you're referring to?
 * and thirdly, my standard edit summary is "rmvd deleted image" and hopefully I would have put that on the article page you're thinking of, but I won't know unless you tell me which one?

Thanks Craigy (talk) 21:59, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Sandcastle
Agtfjott/jeb

John Erling Blad (Agtfjott/jeb)

John Erling Blad (Agtfjott/jeb)

— John Erling Blad (jeb)

Urnes Stave Church
Hi Agtfjott. I certainly agree that the picture should be included. The problem was that the article looked very cramped and, dare I say, unprofessional. I am all for re-including the drawing when the article grows a little larger (I have been meaning to translate your and Nina's new text from no:, but I haven't had a lot of free time this past week). I removed the drawing as it closely resembles the photograph, which I tend to prefer as a leading image as it better depicts the church's size and place to those who have not visited it. Rje 01:19, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

 * It would be greate to have one on the team that is a bit more fluent in english! The general idea is to write articles about some of the medieval buildings in Norway, but we're all a bit short on time for the project! — John Erling Blad (jeb) 01:28, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Hopperstad stave church
Hi John. I am a little rushed at the moment (I am preparing for a seminar I have tomorrow), but I will give the article's language a quick going over. I should finish my work in a couple of hours, I will translate the new stuff from no: then if you or Nina do not do it first. If I cannot do it tonight, I will do it tomorrow evening. Thanks for telling me. Rje 20:45, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

 * No hurry, I just drop you a note as we progress. Do your project first! :) — John Erling Blad (jeb) 20:18, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Nice logo
It will be just perfect on no.wp! :D — John Erling Blad (jeb) 22:31, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

One of the icons (CVU2.PNG) isn't on commons. Why is that so? I've created the templates on no.wp an directs the users to the english page. — John Erling Blad (jeb) 23:14, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * NO wiki? Feel free to move the image(s) to commons :) -- Cool CatTalk 23:33, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Norwegian Wikipedia, nowikipedia.org :D — John Erling Blad (jeb) 00:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I do not think CVU watches over that wiki, which can change assuming there are people willing to use my bot :) -- Cool CatTalk 01:44, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

i don't work on search anymore. please file a bug at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/. kate.

Region?
We need to review the terms used for various types of regions of Norway, esp. the current erroneous term "landscape", but also landsdel and tettsted. See for instance Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Norway. -- Egil 16:09, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Etnedal's old stone bridge Lundebru
Great picture of Etnedal's old stone bridge Lundebru, Northern Europe's largest stone-arch bridge. I've been waiting for this one! Thanks Williamborg 03:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I've had it for some time but I've been lazy and buzzy with the norwegian wiki. The norwegian stave church articles also have became pretty decent. no:User:Nina is doing a greate job! For a long time the english articles was much better then the norwegian, couldn't have that! ;) — John Erling Blad (no) 04:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

 * There are also some other pictures of the bridge but I like this one, even if it does not look that tall! — John Erling Blad (no) 04:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Untagged images
Dude, we have 30,000 Untagged images, any one of which could be a copyright violation serious enough to get Wikipedia into legal trouble - we don't know because nobody has looked at them. We're not even keeping up with the flood of incoming copyright violations, and you want me to go slower on cleaning up after people who should have followed instructions in the first place? Come on over and try tagging a few hundred yourself, you'll get a better feel for the scale of our problem. Stan 14:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
Speedy deletion is acted upon on 7 days. Adding that tag at image pages uploaded by students during holidays will most likely get the image deleted before they come back and finds the note. Please do NOT mark images for speedy deletion unless you check the user page!

Thank you.

— John Erling Blad (no) 08:45, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

 * OrphanBot does not mark images for deletion. All it does is remove them from any articles they're in, and notify the uploader. --Carnildo 04:57, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Naming Norwegian traditional Districts, Lakes, Rivers & . ..
Added a Proposal: "Naming Norwegian traditional Districts, Lakes, Rivers & . . ." to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Norway. Would appreciate your comments. Williamborg 05:01, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Print Published Reviews of Wikipedia and Wiki Software
I created List of Print Published Reviews of Wikipedia and Wiki Software — John Erling Blad (no) 04:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Great! Ill keep things going there. Horsman 04:40, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The list is to important to be stucked away on a users talk page. — John Erling Blad (no) 04:45, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll be updating this list throughout my research. Perhaps a page could be created for future seekers. Horsman 02:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Extremly nice! — John Erling Blad (no) 03:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Valdres Folkemuseum
You wrote: "I need someone to check out my english spelling in the addition to the article about Valdres Folkemuseum. Hopefully I found the right buildings! — John Erling Blad (no) 20:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)"
 * Pretty well written; interesting and informative to read. Took a shot at copy editing it. Had several questions (see Talk:Valdres Folkemuseum).
 * Thanks for inviting a copyedit — Williamborg 03:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Greensted Church
I found a question on User talk:Wiglafs discussion page about this church, added by you. The correct reading of "and it is often classified as a stave church" is more like "and the palisade walls are often classified as remnants of a stave church". This to is wrong if you use a Norwegian description of a stave church. It is although right if you use a Swedish definition of a stave church.

The background is, in Sweden a stave church is a church with standing planks in the wall while in Norway a stave church is specific construction with standing staves (pillars) on top of a wooden frame. Sometimes scholars in Sweden uses risverkskyrka to avoid the confusion. In all there are three different constructions, probably with a lot of transitional forms. A palisade construction, a construction with earth bound posts and a construction with posts on top of a wooden frame. To make the situation even more unclear a palisade construction can be partly lifted from the ground and set on a wooden frame.

Especially churches with earth bound posts can be easily spotted during an archaeological survey and a palisade construction were all or parts of the walls are set in gravel. Such buildings are detected all over Europe, and according to Leif Anker "Europe are covered in post holes from Italy to Norway". As he says, "it is more interesting to investigate why the stave churches survived in Norway then to try to see them as a Norwegian-only phenomenon".

— John Erling Blad (no) 10:57, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Excellent discussion; clarifies the confusion quite nicely. Might I suggest it be added to the Greensted Church and stave church pages? Williamborg 15:21, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

no:Wikipedia:Wiki for trygd
An article for translation? :D — John Erling Blad (no) 06:12, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Sure. Not a topic I know anything about, so it will be an interesting excercise. Unfortunately it's too late tonight and I'll be out of the country for a week starting early tommorrow - but I'll do it when I get back. Williamborg 06:24, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Quite an interesting article. If I didn't have to fly tommorrow, I'd complete it tonight. but to bed. Williamborg 06:45, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * This is the coolest thing I have ever seen. Punkmorten 08:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

An extremly funny joke! :D — John Erling Blad (no) 13:20, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

 * And here it sounded like such a good idea... Have to save the translation for next year. :) Williamborg

 * It was to good to be true! — John Erling Blad (no) 09:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Fantastic images, thank you
Thank you for the images you are contributing to Wikipedia. It makes such a difference to have articles illustrated so well. TheGrappler 22:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Kjetil r as admin on commons
With pleasure. When are you going to run? Or is being a Norway admin sufficient. Williamborg 02:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

 * It is to much to do! But perhaps. Why not Williamborg as admin at no.wiki? Seems like you are quite active! :D
 * Seems like we are going to have a lot to do in the next weeks, Jimbo is coming to Bergen. The rumors are out and our main problem is, we could run out of space because we allready have indications we could pass 300 attendants, and our auditorium only takes 300..
 * — John Erling Blad (no) 01:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Quite an event. And a lovely time of the year to be in Bergen. Enjoy! Williamborg 03:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Lister over gårder i Oppland
Articles which parallel a Norwegian Wikipeda series on Lists of farms in Oppland have been proposed for deletion no: Kategori:Lister over gårder i Oppland. I believe that such material has both historical and genealogical value, but as always will support the position of the Wikimajority. If you have an opinion for or against deletion, I’d appreciate your commentary on Articles for deletion/Lists of farms in Oppland. You’re welcome either in favor or against deletion. Tusen takk - Williamborg 9. mai 2006 kl.02:54 (UTC)

 * I very much appreciated your thoughtful comments on Lister over gårder i Oppland. By themselves, your comment served to help formulate what is unique about Norwegian farms—and they are significantly diferent from farms in the USA. Since the articles survived, albeit barely, they will be strengthened by using your information in the articles, as will a number of the thoughts expressed by others.

 * It has always been a pleasure working with you. Your constructive approach makes it so.

 * Mange takk - Williamborg 01:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I sort of expected the articles to be deleted. Interesting. I think the arguments holds for most farms but I'm not sure. Another thing is that «gardsnummer» not always depicting the original farm. perhaps it would be better to make a parallell project for genealogy and the history of the farms. That way the articles could be bigger yet without interfering with Wikipedias rules about vanity. — John Erling Blad (no) 03:09, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

17th of May, Constitution of Norway
You should be here! :D — John Erling Blad (no) 05:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Would that I had been there for the Syttende Mai celebrations. Was in Ballard, but Ballard is not what is used to be—used to be you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a Norwegian—now your lucky to see a dozen in an hour.
 * Next year in Norway! Ha en fin dag - Williamborg 20:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Nynorskhjelpen
Kunne du tenke deg å ta en tur over på Samfunnshuset på nynorsk? Noen av oss er dritlei de samme vandalene omigjen og omigjen. Et forslag om Tor-blokkering o.l. møter ingen motstand, kanskje du kan komme med teknisk bistand? --Ekko 17:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Template cleanup
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Santa Claus edits
I think the citation you added is a bit off. Can you please find a more reliable citation? - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  20:59, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

thanks
Takk for hjelpen! :) -- Kyok o  02:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your talk page over there must be semi-protected, because I couldn't leave a message there. I was able to successfully login to the usurped account. Thanks again! -- Kyok o  22:13, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Global login
Hello, I am an administrator on Polish Wikipedia. I would like to use the opportunity to have a global login, however there is a username conflict on Norwegian Wikipedia. I would like to usurp the account name "Monopol" which I use globally. Regards, Monopol (talk) 14:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

"So called biography"?
Dear John, in this edit you removed quote "slander from a so called biography". This "so called biography" is the largest biographical project in recent norwegian literature, published on a well respected publishing house, and with equally respected sponsors. Furthermore, it is (AFAIK) written in agreement with the royal houses of Norway, Denmark and England. It is fair reason to doubt wheter this bit of information should be in an article about Guy_Francis_Laking, but there is no reason to discredit the biography, the author, or to descibe his open hypothesis as "slander". Best wishes --Orland (talk) 15:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

 * It is slander and it is also identified as such as several researchers. — John Erling Blad (no) 08:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Max Manus photo
I'm writing about your photo File:Location «Max Manus», Stortinget.jpg. We would like to use the photo for a Main Page DYK article about Max Manus (film). The licensing, however, requires attribution, and I don't think this will be possible on the Main Page. Could you please comment on Template talk:Did you know? Lampman (talk) 19:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Its a CC-by-sa license. Attribution should be done where attribution is necessary (or usual). I don't think attribution would be necessary (or usual) on a front page. — John Erling Blad (no) 08:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Bureaucrat action for my SUL on no.wikipedia.org
Hello Jeblad, Could you please rename the User:Plyd from no.wikipedia.org so I can merge my SUL account please ? The Plyd account has no contribution on this wiki. I wrote a global request there. Thank you for your help! Plyd ✉ 17:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

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Fidel Castro
Don't be in such a rush to be the first to report his death. Until we get confirmation from a reliable source, let's wait. Most internet death rumours are false; if this one is true, we can afford to be a little late with the news. We can't afford to be a little early with a false rumour! --NellieBly (talk) 00:25, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of List of stone churches for deletion
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Rationale
Hi! Thanks for your note. First of all, she was disruptively blanking a template despite more than one warning. That, combined with her incredibly biased edits to the article about her website and the threat to "take the matter further" if the article wasn't changed was enough to tip the scales for me. If you want, you can always ask for a block review at AN, but I hope that's enough explanation. Keilana | Parlez ici 02:06, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

User page redirect the wrong way around
Since Agtfjott is your former username shouldn't that page redirect to Jeblad, not the other way around? __meco (talk) 21:24, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

A UN military commander at the Srebrenica Massacre
You are an administrator at the Norwegian site that had an article (for several years) about Hagrup Haukland. Can you find a link to the deletion discussion (if there was one) for that article? Maybe such a discussion has information that can help me develop our article. --Whatthatspells (talk) 11:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Bruker:Jeblad/lua-test-2

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The virus issue

 * Seriously Yamla, this was a virus issue on my brother in laws computer back in 2007! How do you think it was resolved? — John Erling Blad (no) 12:44, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Amulet of Yendor

What if the Amulet of Yendor came from Zork's Coconut of Qendor?

Removed text
This didn't really belong here, so I removed it:

Appearance in NetHack
In early versions of NetHack, the Amulet was guarded by the Wizard of Yendor, who has the annoying habit of coming back from the dead. Since version 3.1, however, the Amulet is held by the high priest of Moloch, and the player must obtain three special items to enter Moloch's Sanctum. These items are: the Book of the Dead (guarded by the Wizard); the Candelabrum of Invocation (guarded by Vlad the Impaler); and the Bell of Opening (guarded by the player's Quest nemesis). Having the amulet makes the game behave differently, for example monsters are generated as if the player were at the deepest dungeon level.

Origin of Name
Here is what I (Michael Toy, co-creator of this game) remember, I can't tell you this is the truth, but this is what I believe we were thinking when we chose that name ...

The idea was that the dungeon had been constructed by a wizard, and that the quest was to retrieve his lost amulet. In a weak attempt at humor, the all-mighty wizard who creates the dungeon is given the name "Rodney" spelled backwards. Rodney was selected at random, in an instant, as a very unlikely name for a powerful wizard. Through the brilliant (or so it seemed when I was 19), technique of reversing the letters of his name, this secret joke was now "hidden" in a very reasonable "fantasy sounding" name of Yendor.

I'm not wikipedia savvy enough to know how to present my own memories in a neutral point of view. Feel free to edit the entry and consider this comment as authoritative.

--Mtoy 17:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Michael - care to post this on a third-party location and provide a back-link so we can reference it? wikipedia frowns upon self-referencing (that is all facts should eventually lead to an external source).Garrie 05:57, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Anyone heard of the Fantasy artist Rodney Matthews? My grandma gave me a book he drew called Yendor... (i found out later it is also the name he gave his son) and while searching the net to show this to a friend i have stumbled upon nethack yendor... considering this book must have been published in late 1970's i suspect it predates nethack... OK i never contributed to Wikipdia b4, do with this what you will, i will continue my search =) -Brendan Worth

Merge suggestion
I've suggested that this page be merged into Roguelike. This is a very minor topic and has no relevence outside of Nethack and other roguelike games. Any objections? James A. Stewart 23:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

it mentions KOL

Merge discussion closed with a consensus of do not mergeGarrie 00:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Do Not Merge AoY is not endemic to all Roguelike games. But it is singificant enough to be worth a mention (I've never played a game with it in, but I knew what it was) - isn't there also a game in it's own right? Garrie 05:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Lack of external references
The biggest problem for this article is it lacks external references. Given the number of Pokemon articles, having an article for an artifact that is used across a large number of Roguelike games shouldn't be a problem! At least this one has stood the test of time... try finding a Pokemon toy in the shops this christmas, rec.games.roguelike.nethack is still active.Garrie 06:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Contradiction
I see no contradiction in the article, and since there's nothing on this talk page about it I removed the contradiction tag. 71.79.203.203 22:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Whoops, forgot my login. The suicide forest 22:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

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Ben dickman
Possible vanity. The article only mentions his uninteresting childhood. If he did found a cult, it has yet to do anything notable. Acetic Acid 19:17, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

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Halifax
I am restoring this as the Talk page of Halifax - it makes no sense to redirect a talk page to an article. Guettarda 19:35, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry, my fault entirely. -- Francs2000 | Talk [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px| ]] 20:10, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm going to make this a disambiguation page, and make Halifax be the city in Canada, which I think is the most famous Halifax. What do you all think? --AW 18:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Changed my mind, based on the weird municipal government thing they have now --AW 19:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Halifax vs. Halifax (disambiguation)

 * Personally I have no problem with Halifax being the page for Halifax, West Yorkshire, since this is the originally named town. I'd redirect Halifax, West Yorkshire to Halifax and use the Halifax (disambiguation) page for linking to all other articles containing the word Halifax. Plasma east 12:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Just come here. That seems like the best plan. How can it be done? Billlion (talk) 08:57, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, Halifax, West Yorkshire should be the prime topic Crouch, Swale   talk to me   My contribs  15:26, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Halifax, Nova Scotia
Halifax, Nova Scotia is a metropolition area and a community according to the Nova Scotia government.19960401 01:23, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Uh, but the metropolitan area is the Halifax Regional Municipality, "HRM" being the official acronym; Halifax, Nova Scotia is a certain part of it. It's true the HRM includes lots of rural araes and other cities; but the Halifax Metropolitan Area, if defined separately, would still be larger than Halifax, Nova Scotia proper, if only part of HRM....Skookum1 (talk) 23:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

What about these?
I added Halifax West, the other Halifax-named federal electoral districts; but there's also these provincial electoral districts: I wasn't sure they were to be included because of the compound names; I'd think so, as listings of electroal districts with "Halifax" in the name owudl seem to be necessary to make the dab complate.Skookum1 (talk) 23:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Halifax Atlantic
 * Halifax Chebucto
 * Halifax Citadel
 * Halifax Clayton Park
 * Halifax Fairview
 * Halifax Needham
 * Hm. Maybe List of Halifax electoral districts might be necessary; these are former provincial electoral districts:

Such items need more to be in chronological order and division-trees, if that's the way they evolved, rather than alphabetical; see Kootenay (electoral districts) and New Westminster (electoral districts).Skookum1 (talk) 23:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Halifax (provincial electoral district)
 * Halifax Bedford Basin
 * Halifax Centre
 * Halifax Cobequid
 * Halifax Cornwallis
 * Halifax County Dartmouth
 * Halifax East
 * Halifax Eastern Shore
 * Halifax North
 * Halifax Northwest
 * Halifax South
 * Halifax St. Margarets

Most often list in lede
I have added a most often list in the lede, in line with other large dab pages (eg Richmond, Portland or Mobile. I was intending to add entries for the two significant Halifaxes (one in northern England, to other on the eastern seabord of Canada).

But the WP article structure for the latter is a complete muddle. The name I was expecting to use (Halifax, Nova Scotia) is just a dab page. There are several other Halifax articles, describing different permutations of areas, and going into some detail about local government organisation (yawn), but nothing that describes the holistic total of the place and its history over time. I can see no alternative but to omit the Canadian Halifax from the most often list, until this is fixed. -- Starbois (talk) 10:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Sorry, but listing only the UK Halifax is not the appropriate solution at all. If you are looking for a Canadian one, the best bet would appear to be Halifax Regional Municipality. --Ckatz chat spy  10:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

 * I've gone back to the one with both Halifaxes, as I agree that just listed the UK one is misleading. But my reading of Halifax Regional Municipality is that it is an article about a local government body, not about a place. As such I doubt it merits a most often reference. So I've left it at Halifax, Nova Scotia. -- Starbois (talk) 11:03, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

 * HRM seems to have resulted from a 1996 reorganization of local governments in Nova Scotia, from what I've seen in a brief scan of the talk page archives. (There's probably more to this, but it would appear that HRM refers to what most Canadians outside of Nova Scotia would consider to be "Halifax".) I'll keep looking. --Ckatz chat spy  11:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

 * I've put back the "most often" list as there seems to be confusion as to how to find the page for the Nova Scotian Halifax. I've also cleaned up the Nova Scotia section to make HRM government/municipal structure clearer.

 * You're completely right Ckatz, the HRM is in fact the capital of Nova Scotia, despite the name "Halifax Regional Municipality" only being used formally and not colloquially (and yes, we Haligonians are trying to get the name of the city changed back to plain "Halifax"). W.andrea (talk) 00:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Move discussion.
There is a move discussing involving this page at Talk:Halifax, West Yorkshire. -DJSasso (talk) 19:24, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Merger proposal
There is a discussion about a merger proposal to merge City of Halifax into Halifax, Nova Scotia here. This would facilitate a clean up of the entries on this page relating to the place in Nova Scotia.--Mhockey (talk) 11:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Merger proposal, Halifax, Nova Scotia to Halifax
Incomplete disambiguation page - complete dab is at Halifax. Merge proposal for this to be merged and redirected to Halifax to avoid the current duplication and move it in line with disambiguation guidelines, see WP:INCOMPDAB. Boleyn (talk) 10:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose I do not agree that this is a case of incomplete disambiguation.  There are only two topics which are likely to be referred to as "Halifax, Nova Scotia" in a non-specialist context -  City of Halifax and Halifax Regional Municipality.  And it is at least arguable that "Nova Scotia" is more than simple disambiguation, it is a way that the place in NS is commonly referred to - by airlines, the post office, Statistics Canada.  If we cannot agree on which article is the primary topic for Halifax, Nova Scotia, then this is a case for double disambiguation.  If we can agree on the primary topic, the ambiguity can be dealt with by a hatnote at the primary topic.--Mhockey (talk) 11:09, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Comment Rather than getting into a duplicated discussion between pages, which this section is obviously heading for, deal with the proposal at Halifax,_Nova_Scotia#Merger_proposal. Richard Harvey (talk) 11:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Not moved clearly no primary topic has been established. Keith D (talk) 00:51, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

– Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. When people refer to Halifax, they refer to the urban core of the Halifax Regional Municipality, not to the entire Halifax Regional Municipality itself. The situation can be compared to Honolulu - the primary topic of the title "Honolulu" refers to the urban core of Honolulu County, Hawaii. As such, "Honolulu" is neither a disambiguation page nor an article on the county that encompasses the entire island of Oahu. "Halifax" is too common a name to be sitting as a disambiguation page. Jiang (talk) 05:43, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Halifax → Halifax (disambiguation)
 * Halifax (former city) → Halifax
 * agree This proposal makes a lot more sense than the current name. Rjensen (talk) 06:44, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

 * Oppose - there are other things being disambiguated here. In the UK, the city of Halifax, West Yorkshire and the Halifax bank are much better known than the Canadian city. Interplanet Janet, Esquire IANAL 11:10, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * By global standards the Canadian city is doubtless the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The current page fails to make clear which Halifax article points to the common usage of the term. I wanted to read the article about the Canadian city, but was given a disambiguation page that over complicated the number of Canadian political divisions covering the same place so I had no idea which article to click on. The first thing on the list, Halifax (electoral district), is clearly not it.--Jiang (talk) 11:30, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no primary topic by global standards - the Canadian city is not a global city and has little or no profile outside North America. Just sort the list of Canadian topics into a more appropriate order. Interplanet Janet, Esquire IANAL 15:08, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - 'For goodness sake!' Haven't you seen the amount of move requests done already, above? Bringing this up ad-infinitum, when there is no need for it, is a waste of editors time. When I refer to Halifax I refer to the Town of Halifax, West Yorkshire which is my place of birth, not the urban core of the Canadian Halifax Regional Municipality, when I refer to 'The Halifax' I mean the local bank, not the city in Canada. This page is not an article, it is a disambiguation page, designed to advise readers of articles using the name of Halifax. Therefore the Canadian city is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, as there is no primary topic at all. Richard Harvey (talk) 18:52, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There is no prior move proposal. A prior move proposal to have Halifax, West Yorkshire be the primary topic was shot down on the grounds that the Halifax in Canada is more commonly known, not on grounds that a primary topic does not exist. I think the most pressing issue is that Halifax, Nova Scotia links to this disambiguation page - as the topics are not mutually exclusive, the disambiguation there is inappropriate.--Jiang (talk) 22:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose per the countless prior move requests. Even "Halifax, Nova Scotia" isn't a primary topic. 117Avenue (talk) 21:57, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * This specific move request has not been made before.--Jiang (talk) 22:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, what I meant to say is: There have been countless prior move requests, and attempts, to determine a primary topic for "Halifax, Nova Scotia", thus there is no primary topic here. 117Avenue (talk) 00:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose There isn't a clear primary topic here with the bank (named after the British town) being quite prominent as well as the Canadian city and British town. Timrollpickering (talk) 23:52, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment This discussion has been advertised on the talkpage for the Canadian regional municipality (and the former city automatically) but not, AFAICS, on talkpages of other potential claimants, particularly the British town. Timrollpickering (talk) 23:52, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose as formulated, since it's not clear that the Canadian city is the undisputed primary topic. However, a solution is needed to make Halifax, Nova Scotia no longer be a redirect to a disambiguation page. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 04:08, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It has been discussed enough, there is no primary topic there, the current municipality and the former city are almost equal in usage. 117Avenue (talk) 05:30, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The current municipality and the former city are not mutually exclusive entities. WP:CONCEPTDAB applies. It is plainly impossible for a casual reader searching for "Halifax, Nova Scotia" to know which one of those links they are supposed to click on to get a general overview article of the city. Even if we keep "Halifax" a dab page due to the British town and bank, the setup for "Halifax, Nova Scotia" is simply unacceptable.--Jiang (talk) 05:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * They very much are mutually exclusive entities. They aren't even remotely close to being the same thing. One is only a small portion of the other. The name definitely has to point to a dab page. This has been discussed over and over again for years and years. -DJSasso (talk) 11:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * "I am going to Halifax next week." - it is impossible to disambiguate this sentence on its own. Halifax (former city) is a subset of the municipality. If "Halifax, Nova Scotia" overwhelmingly refers to the historical core, then that is where it should redirect. If not, then it should redirect to Halifax Regional Municipality as the more inclusive article. Disambiguation is inappropriate just because scope may be inconsistent per WP:CONCEPTDAB. --Jiang (talk) 15:35, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is historical context, we don't just go by what is currently the situation. That would be inappropriate recentism. Since usage currently is split between the two meanings we have to go to a disambiguation page because we can't guess what the user is wanting to go to. Lots of people/articles use Halifax, Nova Scotia to mean just the old city. Others use it to mean the whole HRM. When we can't say there is a clearly primary topic we disambiguate. This is the case here. -DJSasso (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yes we do. Take Chongqing for example - the city of Chongqing was merged with three other prefectures to become a provincial-level municipality the size of Scotland in 1997. The historical Chongqing is only a fraction of the current municipality but it is not a disambiguation page. This can be solved by coverage in the lede and history sections and use of Summary style. An article referring exclusively to the old city with a link to the whole HRM is not committing any factual mistake because the HRM includes the old city.--Jiang (talk) 22:39, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...Chongqing is a really bad example to be holding up: The idea that information on a city of 5 million people, and a province "the size of Scotland", should be crammed together in one article, is not a happy one. The information there would be much more accessible split into separate articles on (for example) Chongqing (city) and Chongqing (province); but that's a discussion for there, not here. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:36, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There is never ever a justification to turn Chongqing into a disambiguation page, as should also be the case for Halifax. When a topic is so expansive that it cannot be covered in one article, we should be using Summary style. Local details should go into individual district articles at Chongqing (BTW, there is no "Chongqing province"; Chongqing is called a city and the city has the same status as a province). Under the same logic, should Scotland be turned into a disambiguation page too? I don't have an opinion on how content should be distributed among various Halifax articles, but Halifax, Nova Scotia is effectively functioning as a WP:CONCEPTDAB at the moment and should be replaced with text. --Jiang (talk) 00:07, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment If all your unhappy about is ending up on this disambiguation page, when you have typed Halifax, Nova Scotia in the search box then that could have been solved by changing the redirect to Halifax (former city), which I have just done. Now will someone please close this unrequired discussion? Richard Harvey (talk) 10:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And I just undid it. Halifax, Nova Scotia applies to both the former city and the current municipality. Now-a-days it no longer means the former city, it is used more in conjunction with the current municipality. Thus it is an ambiguous name and has to point to a dab page. This has been gone through in so many different discussions its ridiculous. -DJSasso (talk) 11:54, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well then move Halifax Regional Municipality to Halifax, Nova Scotia if that is common usage. Even if referring specifically to the historical city, a link to an article on the Halifax Regional Municipality is not wrong. Should be turn United States into a disambiguation page because in 1815 it did not include California? Should London be turned into a disambiguation page because it could refer to either the City of London or Greater London? --Jiang (talk) 15:35, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Usage is split, that is why it goes to a dab page. We don't use recentism, because usage is split between the two locations then we have to end up at a dab page if one clearly isn't the primary. This is the case here. In historical texts it will be the former city, in current texts it will be the current city. As such we disambiguate. In the case of London there is very clearly a primary topic. That hasn't happened with Halifax yet only being a decade and a bit old. -DJSasso (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If usage is split, we stick to the broader concept as the primary article. This is how it is done at both London and Chongqing. Just like a country article, a city article should represent current scope, not historical scope. United Kingdom is likewise not a disambiguation page between United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (covering different geographical scope in different time frames).--Jiang (talk) 22:39, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The former is just too recent, we can reassess in twenty years, but for now this issue is dead. 117Avenue (talk) 01:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

 * Oppose As per the many move requests on this topic we finally found a workable solution a few months ago and we get yet another move request. Clearly usage is split so it needs to be a dab page. -DJSasso (talk) 11:59, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's quite clear from this RM that the fix a few months ago was not a workable solution. A workable solution needs to work for those users (not editors) who want to find out about the place called Halifax in Nova Scotia.  There is a long history of discussions started by puzzled users looking for the article on Halifax, Nova Scotia.  Such users are now redirected to a section of a dab page which gives them a choice of 12 articles of which only 2 are likely to be relevant.  It's just unhelpful.--Mhockey (talk) 16:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And none of those discussions have been since we fixed things a couple months ago. To me that signals that perhaps things have been fixed. I think you underestimate our readers if you think they can't tell which of the two are the relevant ones taking into account both the indenting and parenthesis. -DJSasso (talk) 16:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * This is not intuitive. We cannot assume background knowledge on the part of reader. I filed this move request because I simply wanted to read about the city prior to my first visit to it next month - knowing nothing about its administrative scope - and was met by a simply confusing disambiguation page (I had no idea which link to click!). This usually means that WP:CONCEPTDAB has been violated. Perhaps my move proposal above was inappropriate due to the UK references to Halifax, but the organization of the Canadian Halifax article is simply confusing and inaccessible for the casual reader. --Jiang (talk) 22:39, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You wanted to read about the city you were about to visit? Well thank-you for coming to Wikipedia, I think you learned something as soon as you searched Halifax. 117Avenue (talk) 01:12, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

 * The dab page clearly says the capital of Nova Scotia. I am just blown away that that wouldn't be enough information to go on. Especially since the other one is listed as the former city. By listing it as the former city clearly it isn't the one you are going to next month so that crosses that off the list immediately. As such out of the two options one is clearly not what you are looking for because it doesn't exist anymore leaving only the the one that clearly says it is the current location. Frankly to me it seems very intuitive. -DJSasso (talk) 12:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * So Halifax (former city) is purely written on an entity that no longer exists? Given how the article is currently written, this doesn't seem the case, as it refers to stuff in the present tense, but this is not something we can't immediately fix. That "Halifax (former city)" is meant to be on something only of historical interest is all the more reason to move Halifax Regional Municipality to Halifax, Nova Scotia since whenever we say "Halifax" in 2012 we can reasonably mean "Halifax Regional Municipality" (as opposed to using "Halifax" to refer only to the urban core and only the full name "Halifax Regional Municipality" to refer to the existing political division). Is this the case?--Jiang (talk) 22:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, as can be seen in the previous move requests, it can still mean the urban core. 117Avenue (talk) 02:24, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * So in some contexts it can mean the urban core to the exclusion of or in contrast to the other parts of the HRM and in other contexts it can refer to the HRM as a whole, and usage of the former roughly equal usage of the latter? If this is the case, what's wrong with this proposal, which is modeled after the London article? The urban core and the HRM are not mutually exclusively entities; the urban core is contained within the HRM. --Jiang (talk) 04:50, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes your first couple of statements do basically sum it up. In the province of Nova Scotia. Halifax, Nova Scotia tends to only refer to just the Halifax (former city) part of the HRM. Outside the province of Nova Scotia when people say Halifax, Nova Scotia they tend to mean Metropolitan Halifax or to a lesser extent the entire Halifax Regional Municipality. -DJSasso (talk) 12:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you're crediting outsiders with a knowledge of NS local government which they do not have. Most outsiders think of Halifax, Nova Scotia as the largest city in NS, with a long history, and are not bothered about its precise present legal status or extent.  They can read about it on this Nova Scotia government website (which calls it a city), but not easily on Wikipedia!--Mhockey (talk) 21:21, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually its precisely because I don't think they have the knowledge that I make the comment above. This is why I say the usage is split and why it needs to go to a disambiguation page, because readers don't know the one they actually want to go to and need the help of a disambiguation page to do so. I would note that isn't the government website. The government website is novascotia.ca. If we were going to redirect to any page it would be Metropolitan Halifax because that is what most people would consider the largest city in Nova Scotia if they were going by how its often referred to. It wouldn't be the former city article or the HRM article. But doing so would only create even more confusion. -DJSasso (talk) 11:27, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well it doesn't create confusion in similar cases (e.g. Leeds or Bradford). But if there is really no primary topic for Halifax, Nova Scotia it needs to be a dab page where the most common usages can be placed at the top (per MOS:DABORDER).  And if Halifax (former city) is supposed to be just about history, a better title would be History of Halifax - and it should not be in the dab page (except possibly as a "see also").   That would at least give users a better chance of reaching the info they need quickly.  (Incidentally the website is not the government website, but it is a NS government website - read the disclaimer.)--Mhockey (talk) 20:15, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Just because "usage is split" does not necessarily mean there should be a disambiguation page. People have differing conceptions of the same topic all the time - that doesn't mean we should create WP:CONTENTFORKs. A disambiguation page is only justified when substantially unrelated topics share the same name. For example, Tibet could either refer to the historical and cultural region of Tibet, or it could mean the much smaller Tibet Autonomous Region. We do not have a disambiguation page at Tibet.--Jiang (talk) 03:31, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the former city article is intended to just be a historical article about an entity that no longer exists. However, previous naming problems led to both articles being edited to sound like they are the current city. The recent name change to (former city) was to help clear that up. The editing of the article itself however, has not yet been cleaned up fully to adhear to that. -DJSasso (talk) 12:03, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not so clear. Halifax (former city) is an ambiguous title.  It could mean "the place called Halifax which has been destroyed (or renamed?)", or it could mean "the place called Halifax which used to be a city but is now some other kind of settlement", in which case Jiang may well be visiting it.--Mhockey (talk) 21:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't agree to the name "Halifax (former city)", but that move discussion closed only five months ago. 117Avenue (talk) 02:24, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

 * Oppose. No clear primary topic, given the confusion over the Canadian city and the fact that Halifax is also a major town in England. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:57, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose, also per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.
 * In reply to the nomination, when people in the UK (a not inconsiderable chunk of the English-speaking world) refer to Halifax, they generally refer to the town in Yorkshire, so the notion that it’s a toss-up between “the urban core of the HRM” and “the entire HRM itself” is a bit parochial.
 * And as there are at least half-a-dozen articles that describe the various incarnations of the Canadian city, the idea that any one of them is primary over the other five, let alone over the other uses of the name, is a trifle optimistic.
 * And the statement “ ‘Halifax’ is too common a name to be sitting as a disambiguation page” is plainly contradictory; it is precisely because it is a common name that it needs to be a disambiguation page. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:22, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

January 2013
Another discussion on Halifax, Nova Scotia, here. 117Avenue (talk) 03:35, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Placed the three most likely uses - Yorks, Nova Scotia and UK bank - in the lead paragraph
After reading through the various discussions and votes, it seems clear to me that there are three primary uses - the Yorkshire town, the Nova Scotia city and the UK bank - and a number of secondary uses. Most of the discussion seems to revolve around which of the three primary uses is the most important. I think that is a false choice, I don't think that will ever be resolved, and furthermore I don't think forcing a resolution would be helpful to readers.

However the page until now had mixed these three primary uses in with the lengthy list of secondary uses. That is not at all helpful; the vast majority of readers would have wanted to head for one of those three primary uses, but were being forced to scroll through a long, long list of secondary uses. There seems very little discussion on, for example, the Irish bank, the mountain range or the river in Florida, and I suspect that the number of readers arriving here wanting to find those secondary uses are orders of magnitude fewer than those seeking the primary three.

Therefore I have been a little bold, and placed these three primary uses into the lead paragraph, giving each equal weight, whilst keeping the long list of further uses entirely intact. Andrew Oakley (talk) 10:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I should add that the controversy about which NS article is the primary, seems to have been resolved and stabilised by the redirect of Halifax, Nova Scotia to Halifax Regional Municipality as per the result of Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2013_January_16. Ergo my lead article link also follows this convention. Andrew Oakley (talk) 10:17, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with the principle of dealing with the most common uses first, but it is better to keep to the bullet point format for clarity. See Lincoln for an example.--Mhockey (talk) 20:27, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I would agree with Mhockey. Bullet point is much more clear. -DJSasso (talk) 11:37, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The lead entries don't have to be pulled out of the full list, do they? 117Avenue (talk) 02:39, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * No I would still put them at the top. I just wouldn't write it with prose. -DJSasso (talk) 12:19, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Whether "and the current community." should be on the end of the Halifax (former city) line
Hi. There are an awful lot of links in the body of this about Halifax, Nova Scotia. Really, some of those articles should be merged. However, for the moment, we do have all of them, and they should be clearly and simply described here so that people can find what they're looking for. Clearly, we have an article called "Halifax (former city)" about the city that existed pre-1996-merger, and the territory that it contained. I believe that "Halifax (former city), the city until 1996" is a sufficient description of that, because if you're looking for the former city, then that's what you need, and if you're looking for the neighbourhoods, there are several articles on them. The formal distinction of the General Service Area is about as relevant as a polling division or a zoning boundary, and we don't have individual articles for all of those. I do not believe that the line should read "Halifax (former city), the city until 1996 and the current community", which it does now - however, I was reverted when I removed it, and I want to have this discussion here, not via some sort of revert-war. I am interested to hear others' thoughts on this. AshleyMorton (talk) 17:31, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Those who live there know which article refers to which area and what is in those areas. However the Majority of readers do notI I personally find that description relevant in advising me which article I am looking for. However I didn't like the extensive description for Halifax Nova Scotia, which is not necessary, so I have trimmed that down. Richard Harvey (talk) 20:26, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

"Haligonian" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Requested move 18 July 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) {{replyto|SilverLocust}} (talk) 09:23, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

– per WP:UCRN, WP:DPT and possibly WP:NWFCTM, Halifax is a common name used in North America and, to an extent, around the world for a city (Halifax, Nova Scotia) that is both larger and arguably more relevant than either Halifax, East Yorkshire or Halifax, the bank. pageviews show that apart from irregular spikes, Halifax, Nova Scotia gets more daily pageviews than either of the other main contenders for the page title, and although Halifax is commonly used in the UK and related areas to refer to the bank or the town, I would argue that worldwide, and for a majority of English Wikipedia users, Halifax is a name that best suits the Halifax, Nova Scotia page. this page could then be moved to Halifax (disambiguation) to clarify the other, less viewed Halifaxes from the main page titled Halifax MishchaytWiki (talk) 07:33, 18 July 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Halifax → Halifax (disambiguation)
 * Halifax, Nova Scotia → Halifax
 * Oppose while I agree today the NS one is the most important the one in West Yorkshire is the original and the bank is also common enough.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:19, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose, WP:NOPRIMARY. 162 etc. (talk) 17:58, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we can consider being the capital of a 2nd order division in the Canadian case (Nova Scotia) while only a 3rd order division in the English case (Calderdale) though Calderdale is arguably a 2nd order division as West Yorkshire no longer has a council. In other case Worcester, no primary topic with Worcester, England capital of Worcestershire, 2nd order while Worcester, Massachusetts capital of Worcester County, Massachusetts, 3rd order, same with Lancaster, no primary topic with Lancaster, Lancashire (2nd, Lancashire though actually may be Preston now) v Lancaster, Pennsylvania (3rd, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania) similar to Durham, no primary topic with Durham, England (of County Durham, 2nd) and Durham, North Carolina (Durham County, North Carolina, 3rd) but there is also Dover, primary topic, capital of Dover District, 3rd order with Dover, Delaware, capital of Delaware, 2nd.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 21:43, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose If anything the real Halifax should be in WP:PT position. Yorkshire is of world significance, no one cares about Nova Scotia. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:11, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose Per WP:PTOPIC, searches for the primary topic should be "more likely than all the other topics combined", and the pageviews for the Canadian municipality don't consistently lead the West Yorkshire town and the bank by a huge margin when the latter are combined. I think WP:NOPRIMARY applies. Carguychris (talk) 16:09, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:NWFCTM Mhockey (talk) 17:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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