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Two-stream instability

The two-stream instability is a very common instability in plasma physics. It can be induced by an energetic particle stream injected in a plasma, or setting a current along the plasma so different species (ions and electrons) can have different drift velocities. The energy from the particles can lead to plasma wave excitation.

Two-stream instability can arise from the case of two cold beams, in which no particles are resonant with the wave, or from two hot beams, in which there exist particles from one or both beams which are resonant with the wave.

Two-stream instability is known in various limiting cases as beam-plasma instability, beam instability, or bump-on-tail instability.

Dispersion relation in cold-beam limit
Consider a cold, uniform, and unmagnetized plasma, where ions are stationary and the electrons have velocity $$v_0$$, that is, the reference frame is moving with the ion stream. Let the electrostatic waves be of the form:

$$ \mathbf{E}_1 = \xi_1 \exp[i(kx - \omega t)] \mathbf{\hat{x}} $$

Applying linearization techniques to the equation of motions for both species, to the equation of continuity, and Poisson's equation, and introducing the spatial and temporal harmonic operators $$\partial_t \rightarrow -i\omega$$, $$\nabla \rightarrow ik$$ we can get the following expression:

$$ 1 = \omega_{pe}^2 \left[\frac{m_e/m_i}{\omega^2} + \frac{1}{(\omega - kv_0)^2} \right], $$

which represents the dispersion relation for longitudinal waves, and represents a quartic equation in $$\omega$$. The roots can be expressed in the form:

$$ \omega_j = \omega_j^R + i\gamma_j $$

If the imaginary part ($$Im(\omega_j)$$) is zero, then the solutions represent all the possible modes, and there is no temporal wave growth or damping at all:

$$ \mathbf{E} = \xi \exp[i(kx - \omega t)] \mathbf{\hat{x}} $$

If $$Im(\omega_j) \ne 0$$, that is, any of the roots are complex, they will occur in complex conjugate pairs. Substituting in the expression for electrostatic waves leads to:

$$ \mathbf{E} = \xi \exp[i(kx - \omega_j^R t)] \exp[\gamma t] \mathbf{\hat{x}} $$

Because of the second exponential function at the right, the temporal dynamics of the wave amplitude depends strongly on the parameter $$\gamma$$; if $$\gamma < 0$$, then the waves will be exponentially damped; on the other hand, if $$\gamma > 0$$, then the waves are unstable and will grow at an exponential rate.

Wave–particle interactions

In the hot-beam case, the two-stream instability can be thought of as the inverse of Landau damping. There are particles which have the same velocity as the wave. The existence of a greater number of particles that move slower than the wave phase velocity $$v_{ph}$$ as compared with those that move faster, leads to an energy transfer from the wave to the particles. In the case of the two-stream instability, when an electron stream is injected to the plasma, the particles' velocity distribution function has a "bump" on its "tail". If a wave has phase velocity in the region where the slope is positive, there is a greater number of faster particles ($$v > v_{ph}$$) than slower particles, and so there is a greater amount of energy being transferred from the fast particles to the wave, giving rise to exponential wave growth.

In the cold-beam case, there are no particles which have the same velocity as the phase velocity of the wave (no particles are resonant). However, the wave can grow exponentially even so; this is the case discussed in the above section. In this case, the beam particles are bunched in space in a propagating wave in a self-reinforcing way even though no particles move with the propagation velocity.

In both the hot-beam and cold-beam case, the instability grows until the beam particles are trapped in the electric field of the wave. This is when the instability is said to saturate.

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Systems Management Architecture for Server Hardware

The Systems Management Architecture for Server Hardware (SMASH) is a suite of specifications that deliver industry standard protocols to increase productivity of the management of a data center.

Distributed Management Task Force developed SMASH Standard- which includes the Server Management Command Line Protocol specification - is a suite of specifications that deliver architectural semantics, industry standard protocols and profiles to unify the management of the data center. Through the development of conformance testing programs, the SMASH Forum will extend these capabilities by helping deliver additional compatibility in cross-platform servers.

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The cover scan in the article clearly shows the title as being 3 words "Polly Wog Stew". What do published sources call it? --kingboyk (talk) 21:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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High and Sung Mass
Hi there. I did some work on Sung Mass and looked at High Mass as well. I couldn't help but notice some odd parallels:
 * The Sung Mass is in many ways an aberration. It was intended for use in non-Catholic countries where the services of a deacon or a subdeacon (or clergy to fill these parts in the ceremony of the Mass) were not easily had. It was intended to be used in place of Solemn Mass on Sundays and major feast days.
 * The High Mass is in many ways an aberration. It was intended for use in non-Catholic countries where the services of a deacon & subdeacon (or clergy to fill these parts in the ceremony of the Mass) were not easily had. It was intended to be used in place of Solemn Mass on Sundays and major feast days.

As a layman, I find all the different masses quite confusing. Can we have some overview or something? Also, some might say that calling them "aberration" is subjective. Rl 20:05, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation. Maybe you can briefly explain the term so the laymen (most people who use Wikipedia) understands the meaning of this term in this context (something like "was in many ways an aberration and was not approved by the Holy See until about two hundred years ago.") ? Oh, and since you seem to be a rare expert on the subject, can you add a reference or two so readers and other editors know where they can learn more? Rl 07:06, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

I fixed your user page, your Spanish needs more work Conquistador. Don't be discouraged though!--4.245.215.112 07:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

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Fight on, Pennsylvania!
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Then how are people supposed to know what the lyrics are? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MiguelJoseErnst (talk • contribs)
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Sadly, none of the school's websites have the full lyrics. BUT, I just did some double checking. "The Houston Club" was disbanded in 1929 and replaced by the Houston Hall Board--a separate entity. http://www.archives.upenn.edu/histy/features/studtorg/stugovt/housclub.html (paragraph 11). The name is sometimes used as a nickname for the student union (the wiki article on Houston Hall confirms this), but the corporate entity legally bearing that name no longer exists. The book I quoted from was published in 1924. If the Houston Club was abolished in 1929 then the copyright could not have been renewed. According to Cornell's Copyright Information Center website (http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm), the song is now be in the public domain. I will put the lyrics back up, but with an explanation. If you deem this is not enough, then I assume you will remove it and I will leave it be until I can find out any more.

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I have cited a source for my edits. The person who has made changes has not.

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Jean Boht

Jean Boht (née Dance; 6 March 1932 – 12 September 2023) was an English actress, most famous for the role of Nellie Boswell in Carla Lane's sitcom Bread, one of several actors to remain with the show for its entire seven series tenure from 1986 to 1991.

Early life
Boht was born as Jean Dance on 6 March 1932 in Bebington, then in Cheshire; her mother was pianist Edna May "Teddy" Dance. She was educated at Wirral Grammar School for Girls.

Career
Boht trained at the Liverpool Playhouse, where she started her career as a theatre actress, before touring the United Kingdom in stage roles, working in numerous West End Theatres including the Royal National Theatre and the Bristol Old Vic. In a career spanning from 1962 to 2018, she appeared largely in television productions. These included guesting parts in Softly, Softly (1971), Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em (1978), Grange Hill (1978), Last of the Summer Wine (1978), Boys from the Blackstuff (1982), Scully (1984) and Juliet Bravo in the mid-1980s.

In was through her regular role in the sitcom Bread (1986–91), as matriarch Nellie Boswell, which she found her largest audience, with the series attracting some 20 million viewers.

In 1989, she was the subject of This Is Your Life, and in 2008 she made a guest appearance in BBC One's daytime TV soap, Doctors.

Boht starred in The Brighton Belles, an unsuccessful British adaptation of the American sitcom The Golden Girls as the character of Josephine, based on Sophia Petrillo, the part made famous by Estelle Getty.

On stage, Boht appeared with Jeremy Irons in Embers (2006) at the Duke of York's Theatre in London.

Boht also appeared in the film Mothers and Daughters (2004), and starred in Chris Shepherd's award-winning short film Bad Night for the Blues (2010).

Personal life, illness and death
Her first marriage to William Boht ended in divorce. She married the American-British conductor and composer Carl Davis on 28 December 1970. They had two daughters, filmmakers Hannah (born 1972) and Jessie (born 1974). Boht and Davis were executive producers on Hannah Davis's film The Understudy and they appeared in the film as a married couple. Davis died on 3 August 2023.

Boht was diagnosed with vascular dementia and Alzheimer's disease. She was a resident at Denville Hall, a retirement home in Northwood, London, for actors and other members of the entertainment industry.

Boht died from complications of dementia on 12 September 2023, at the age of 91.

Awards
Boht won a British Comedy Award (now known as the "National Comedy Awards") for Best Comedy Actress in 1990.

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Homosexuality in Ancient Greece
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Kistler Vineyards

Kistler Vineyards is a family-owned California winery located in Northern California's wine producing region of Sonoma County. According to Food and Wine Magazine, their "biannual release of Chardonnay is one of the most sought after by wine enthusiasts" and Food and Wine Magazine's Wine Guide considers their Chardonnays the "Best of the Best" among "Star Producers"

History
Kistler was founded in 1978, and continues to be family owned and operated today. Until 2017 Kistler's winemaking was supervised by Steve Kistler, who studied creative writing at Stanford University. Kistler also oversaw the vineyard work. Mark Bixler, who has a PhD in Chemistry from the University of California at Berkeley ran the business and sales side of the winery as well as helping in the lab.

In 2008, Kistler sold his majority stake in the company to the owner of Durell Vineyard, Bill Price. At that time they brought the Vineyard Manager from Hudson Vineyards in Carneros, Jason Kesner, as Steve's assistant winemaker, with the intention of a long transitional period. That plan came to fruition at the end of 2017 with Jason now overseeing all production, farming, and day-to-day business.

In 2014, Kistler opened its very first tasting facility at its Trenton Roadhouse property - a 60 acre vineyard that features a 100+ year old renovated farmhouse and barn. It has been lauded as, "the best wine tasting experience in Sonoma/Napa".

Grape varieties and wine
In addition to Chardonnay, Kistler Vineyards also produces different bottlings of Pinot noir from different vineyards, like the nearby Occidental Station and Bodega Headlands and in prior vintages Terra de Promissio. Like the Chardonnay, the Pinot noir is modeled after the wines of the Burgundy region of France.

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Scarlet Crusade article
Well I was checking the article out and it looks very clean and organized now, good job. Derktar 18:39, August 27, 2005 (UTC).

About the Warcraft Portal
I see you recently created a Warcraft portal, if you would like any help I would be glad to assist. I'm sure User:UnlimitedAccess, User:Falcorian, User:Havok, and User:Debroglie would also like to help out and if you have time you might leave a note on their talk page. Derktar 03:41, September 13, 2005 (UTC).
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''I saw your edit to Template:Warcraft-stub and was wondering if you could clarify your reasons for removing the icon from the template. I'm somewhat confused by the reason you gave - "remove icon - not fair use in a stub template" - because it doesn't seem to make much sense: why is it that an icon is not fair use in a stub template but is fair use in an article? Plus removing the icon made the stub notice much less obvious on the Warcraft articles. XD Thanks. --Arabani 00:03, 24 October 2005 (UTC)''
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The character's name is indeed Nelena Cain, not Helena Cain. I'm reverting your changes. — Phil Welch 04:24, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

 * My mistake, apparently. I'm looking into it more but I've re-reverted. IMDB shows it as "Helena", although I'm skeptical. — Phil Welch 04:29, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Google shows ten times more hits for "Helena Cain "battlestar"" than "Nelena Cain "battlestar"". And I'd have to back Arab on these matters, he's a little more than obsessed with BSG... -Falcorian 18:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

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Maybe you should make a new category? I mean, the current one does say "graduated from"... --Falcorian 03:03, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
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Hi. I am just wondering, is there a reason to bypass redirects? To me it looks that redirects are fine, and that more important would be to disambiguate redirects or fix double redirects. Anyway, you made me curious. You can reply here, I will keep your talk page on my watchlist. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:50, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I've been bypassing redirects as I run into them while randomly browsing Wiki. I don't believe there's any official policy on bypassing redirects - or at least none that I've found. Having said that, I personally think it's cleaner to bypass redirects. Almost all of the redirects I've been bypassing are redirects for alternate spellings, e.g. changing Stokes' theorem (which is a redirect) to Stokes theorem (which is the target article). At least in these cases, there certainly seems to be no harm in bypassing the redirect, and is probably even beneficial (removes the ugly little "redirect from (page name)" at the top of the article and reduces server load (one less page to parse)). So, to conclude my rather lengthy explanation, while there is no official reason to bypass redirects, I personally believe it a) makes articles cleaner and b) (slightly) reduces server load. --Arabani 04:41, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * OK. Thank you for your explanation. Sometimes redirects make sense, sometimes they are placeholders for articles to come, but I see that you are not concerned with those. So, got it! :) I don't know about reducing the server load, but bypassing them does not hurt most of the time. Thanks again, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:23, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Just to jump in, there does not seem to be any official policy on the matter, at least none that the users who read the villiage pump are aware of. Basicly it's "do what you think is right". --Falcorian 18:36, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Great. Thanks! This style of eavesdropping seems to be really helpful. :) Happy New Year ahead! Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Nashezbaernon
So that's it, eh? --Falcorian 05:37, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is certainly how you spell it (my version, anyway. The real spelling is N'a'shezbaernon) ... although why you bring it up is completely beyond me. --Arabani 06:29, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Found it in my WTF folder. --Falcorian | Talk 07:47, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

WoW Popularity
Hi Arabani, I guess I missed that discussion. Thanks for keeping an eye out. Junjk 19:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Burning Crusade
I was not trying to vandalize the Burning Crusade site I heard from a reliable source(I cannot remember where this was) that Blizzard could not use Pandaren because of the reason I stated on the site —the preceding unsigned comment is by 69.173.46.73 (talk • contribs) 14 January, 2005 (UTC)
 * I posted a reply on your talk page. --Arabani 07:38, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Tables
Did you ever figure out tables and whatnot? I think this part of Bolos could be much better presented in table form... And I really have no clue on tables! --Falcorian | Talk 20:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Never mind... I did it my self. :P --Falcorian(talk) 04:13, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

World of Warcraft GLBT issue.
Wikipedia attempts to be Comprehensive. The politics involved in how an MMPOG is run is relevent to an article on that MMPOG. This article is expliclty not just about the game play. Restoring the deleted section --Barberio 01:03, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Vertebral column
I think you should check out Vertebral column. Very interesting... and you could use one! :P --Falcorian (talk) 08:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
Good to see you back! --Falcorian (talk) 06:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Lies and slander. Or something like that. --Arabani (Talk ∞ Contribs) 07:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Reminder...
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Heh, you misunderstood
Ned Scott's message had nothing to do with World of Warcraft. It was to do with Articles_for_deletion/CAT1-X_Hyperion_Gundam_series, a heavy debate. Nothing to do with WoW. In defense to your revert, I remind you that it is a guideline that characters have real-world impact to be an article. From what it looks like, these characters have had absolutely no impact on the real-world at all, and until this is asserted in the article, it will remain so. I'm going to nominate it for AfD soon. --TheEmulatorGuy 23:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

WoW Portal
Hi, I saw you had created a Warcraft portal, and some days ago I made a WoW Portal, why donæt you go and have a look at it

--Dvyjon e s 16:26, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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Hey Alan, this is Danny. I haven't talked to you in a really long time! How are things going?

By the way, are you still playing World of Warcraft? --Ixfd64 (talk) 09:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hi all, To start with I was just going to do a few minor edits to make the prose to be less gushing, to put everything in the past tense and to provide some context for readers unfamiliar with the show , my aim being to let the majority of the article stand.

However on attempting this I have a problem with the following :-

"The show was set in Qing Dynasty China in the late years of Emperor Jiaqing's rule. This was a time of peace and stability, as China was in the firm grasp of the Manchu’s, evil and corrupt officials such as Ho Shen was executed, political uprising were under control, and the economy is prosperous. However, this is not the case inside the Forbidden City. The constant war between the emperor's wives and concubines for the emperor's praise has never been more rampant. This is a story of the empress (Rebecca Chan) and the conflicts between the concubines (Sheh, Lai, Cheung, and Tang) for the emperor’s praise and authority in the Forbidden City."

Reading this the inference is that the Empire is running smoothly, and the internal bickering in the Forbidden City is at odds with this. My recollection of the show is that the country was collapsing. Remember that Moses's character became an Imperial courier because the alternative was to starve, that bandits were kidnapping and robbing at will and in the end (with the connivance of the Empress) entered the Palace to burn and loot.

My take on this, is that individuals bent on personal power , revenge , pleasure , fortune or hubris were willing to bicker , feud and squabble to the detriment of the wider picture. If no one objects to this I'll rewrite this section to reflect this.

On another note unless a synopsis is provided its just confusing to to stick in random plot elements.

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"The show was set in Qing Dynasty China in the late years of Emperor Jiaqing's rule. The show portrayed this period as one of fading peace and stability, as China was slipping out of the grasp of the Manchu dynasty. Famine and banditry going untendend as decadent and corrupt officials squabbled for personal wealth and power." -That's giving the outside world far too much emphasis. The show focuses on the events inside the Forbidden City, rarely mentioning the outside world and only heavily involving it in the very last episodes. "The weakness of the Emperor allows these officials whether high born aristocrats or low born eunuchs to use the Royal women as puppets." -The series doesn't show it like this at all. The Emperor isn't necessarily weak, just mostly absent and otherwise occupied. More importantly, with the exception of Elder Tsu all of the prime manipulators are Royal women. It's the men that get used as puppets.

Rewritten the entire alinea, adding titles and including a synopsis of sorts as well.

the names of the characters
Should they be Hanyu pinyinized? They were not people from Guangdong and I think that it is strange to write their names in Cantonese.--HeiChon~XiJun 05:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I did the name translations. I translated the names according to their Cantonese pronounciations because this Drama series was made in Hong Kong. Arbiteroftruth 07:58, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Although this Drama series was made in Hong Kong, the names of the characters should use Hanyu pinyin or in the language of Manchuria.--HeiChon~XiJun 09:50, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, but I believe this isn't the place to do that. Let the Chinese version take care of that. Also, I doubt Mainlanders would be able to read this entry anyways. Arbiteroftruth 01:55, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

It is a widely accepted convention that the names of historical Chinese people are transliterated into English and many other Latin-alphabet languages by Hanyu Pinyin. This is probably the most common practice around the world. It is the standard way of transliteration in China, and is also adopted in academia. Furthermore, those historical figures in the drama were not from Cantonese speaking areas. Therefore, Mandarin Chinese - the national language of China - should be use as the basis of transliteration. It is unprofessional and, to a certain extent, uncomprehensible for most English speakers to transliterate base on Cantonese.

Besiders that, although I am not a mainlander, I would still like to ask: why do you say that mainlanders unable to read this entry? It seems that you are trying to make a point that "Hanyu Pinyin is a mainland thing, and mainland culture should not be brought to Hong Kong." This is not true. Hanyu Pinyin is not only used for mainlanders to understand the article. I am sorry to say that your comment seems to have some despise on mainlanders and is a little bit Hong Kong-centric. - Alanmak 05:26, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Alanmak, when I mean that Mainlanders are not able to read the entry, I mean that due to censorship in China, people from that country are most likely not able to access the page (I am not lying about this, go to any Chinese Wikipedia pages and read the lines on the top of the page, if you are able to read Chinese). There is nothing despicable or racial about my statement, I am simply stating that censorship makes access to Wikipedia for Mainland Chinese a bit difficult.

Also, when you take a look at how to transliterate the pages, you have got to realize the focus of the page. This page is about a Hong Kong television production, not a Mainland production. It is the same for English pages. When a certain English page is talking about British figures, they use the Commonwealth way of spelling certain words ("Honour" instead of "honor", "realise" instead of "realize"). It should be no different for this, I believe.

I can say, in all sense of the word, that I am not being biased against the Mainlanders in this subject matter. I admit that in private, I do have some misgivings about certain way that Chinese do things, but I do not carry them into Wikipedia. To say so otherwise does not do justice to what I stand for.

So, I would suggest to you, Alanmak, to please take a look at this in a way that does not involve me being biased or racist against the Mainlanders. Arbiteroftruth 04:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I have added the Han Yu Pin Yin translations as a sidenote. Makthemutant 09:02, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Good, good. The problem is now solved. Thanks Makthemutant. Arbiteroftruth 15:34, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Use of Simplified Characters
I am strongly discouraging the use of Simplified characters, the Mainland China way of writing, on this page about a Hong Kong television production. Traditional characters, the way of writing for Hong Kong, Macao, Taiwan, and overseas Chinese communities, should be used instead. Arbiteroftruth 08:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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Warner Park

Warner Park is a municipal park and ballpark on the northeast side of Madison, Wisconsin near Lake Mendota.

Since 2001, Warner Park has been the home to the Madison Mallards, a member of the Northwoods League (baseball). In 2024, the Madison Night Mares, a women's collegiate softball team in the Northwoods League, play their home games at Warner Park. Its stadium, nicknamed the "Duck Pond," was built in 1982 for the now-defunct Madison Muskies and has a capacity of 6,750. The Madison Hatters used the stadium in 1994 as did the Madison Black Wolf from 1996-2000. Today it hosts the Madison East High School and Madison La Follette High School baseball teams.

The adjacent football field was formerly the home of the Madison Mustangs, a semi-professional football team that played in the Central States Football League in the 1960s and 1970s.

Warner Park contains a multi-purpose facility for community activities. It has a gymnasium, a fully equipped exercise room, a game room and dry and wet craft rooms. Meeting rooms and community rooms are available for rent.

The park contains a 9-foot-tall metal replica of the Statue of Liberty (Liberty Enlightening the World), built in 1950.

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Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 August 28/American lawyers

Category:American lawyers
The category itself is inherently vague and unnecessary. There is no possible way for anything to list all practicing lawyers, or all American lawyers regardless. There is a constant influx of lawyers who practice law after getting a law degree, and an outflux who die or no longer practice law. Are we to list every single American lawyer ever, from law school professors at obscure colleges to long-dead attorneys from the 19th century? The list would be endless, ridiculously difficult to compile, and impractical. Not to mention that not everyone with a law degree/bar admission practices law, and America has millions of lawyers who practice law in many fields, from corporate law to divorce law to international law. Are we to list all them, too?

I propose Wikipedia create (or if it already exists, merge with) an article of Notable American Lawyers. This category would not include every notable person with a law degree/bar admission, and restrict subjects to those who are icons in the American legal field: Clarence Darrow, Thurgood Marshall, Johnnie Cochran, and the like, while restricting unneccessary politicians and celebrities whose only qualification is they got a law degree. Howard Cosell and Star Jones for example, do NOT belong in this category. This article is impractical and should be removed offkilter 22:39, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment As I mentioned in my vote using adjectives (famous, notable etc) in names are against wikipedia policy. If you feel some of the articles in the category are non-notable then suggest them for deletion. If you feel that notable people listed in the category are not well enough known as lawyers just be bold and remove the category link from the article (or discuss it on the talk page of the article if you are unsure). The category itself is however fine. --Sherool 18:12, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

While a renaming of the category to "Noteworthy American Lawyers" or "Notable American Attorneys" is advisable, and a paring down of the list to exclude unfamiliar or those without significant accomplishment, to delete the category entirely is too extreme.

Obviously, the towering figures in the field like Marshall and Darrow belong, but, yes, it is also interesting to note that celebrities who make their name in other fields hold a law degree. Where to draw the line can be up to wikipedians in the usual manner. Coolshoes

My main issue with this article is that it is hardly a category at all. The list is so broad that it contains so many members from so many categories that it fails to be a category on lawyers; rather, it is a category on famous people with a law degree. Just as George Washington belongs primarily in the "presidents" or "American Generals" category, a great many members of this group should be removed from this and placed in their rightful place. Politicians, commentators, jurists, and actors don't belong in the lawyer category, they belong in the politician, commentator, jurist, and actor category. I think that deleting this article is preferable because, short of renaming and paring it, the category is far too broad and too inclusive. Frankly, I think that creating a new category for "Notable American Lawyers" and placing members who fit strictly by that definition, notable in the field of LAW, is far simpler and easier than a mass reorganization of a chaotic category.--Offkilter 08:21, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Strong Keep! This is one of hundreds (thousands?) of categories deliniating people by occupaction and nationality. See Category:Nationalities by occupation and Category:Occupations by nationality. I can see that there are disputes about this particular category, but it necessary in the general category sorting scheme. Because the category is so large, I would suggest it be sorted into subcategories as much as possible. -- Reinyday, 21:46, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Strong keep Naming conventions spesificaly says you should not use words like famous, notable or importhant in titles, this goes doubely for categories wich only list existing articles. It goes without saying that if they have an article in the Wikiedia they are notable (if not the article should be deleted). So the category is not for listing all lawyers, but rather notable people who happen to be lawyers. --Sherool 17:50, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


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User:William Arnold III

I am a language, history and Bible teacher at a small Christian school and a minister/Bible teacher at International Christian Fellowship.

I have a B.A. in Bible and Theology from Christian Life College and started work on my Masters at Western Seminary.

I am the webmaster and co-founder of the Institute for Biblical Studies web site.

I am the author of the self-published book The Post-Tribulation Rapture and webmaster for the corresponding web site.

I am also the author and creator of the IBS Classroom On A Disk.

Subjects I have taught: English Grammar, Greek Grammar (Koine), Hermeneutics, Eschatology, American History, World History, History of the Bible, New Testament Survey, Introduction to Biblical Studies and in-depth studies of the books of Joshua, Daniel, Romans, Colossians, Titus, James, Jude & Revelation

My personal web site is: WillyArnold.com

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In-Methylcyclophane

In-Methylcyclophanes are organic compounds and members of a larger family of cyclophanes. These compounds are used to study how chemical bonds in molecules adapt to strain. In-methylcyclophanes in particular have a methyl group in proximity to a benzene ring. This is only possible when both methyl group and ring are attached to the same rigid scaffold. In one In-methylcyclophane molecule this is accomplished with a triptycene frame.

This particular compound is synthesed starting from anthracene with a methyl group added to each arene ring (1,8,9-trimethylanthracene). A triptycene compound is formed from a reaction of this anthracene compound with an aryne in a Diels-Alder reaction in isoamyl nitrite. In this synthesis the precursor to the reactive aryne is 2-amino-6-methylbenzoic acid. Next the methyl substituents are functionalized with bromine groups by the photochemical reaction with N-bromosuccinimide or NBS. The final cyclophane is put together by reaction with 1,3,5-tris(mercaptomethyl)benzene with nucleophilic sulfhydryl groups and electrophilic alkyl bromides in a nucleophilic aliphatic Substitution.

X-ray crystallography of the tri-sulfone derivative of this cyclophane shows that the methyl group located 289.6 picometers from the center of the benzene ring. The carbon-to-carbon bond linking the methyl group to the triptycene frame is actually shortened and measures 147.5 to 149.5 pm. The similar bond in the triptycene precursor is 154 pm. Proton NMR analysis shows a chemical shift of 2.52 ppm for the methyl protons compared to that of 3.16 to 3.85 in the anthracene compound. The reason for this anomaly is that the methyl protons are in line with the aromatic ring current of the benzene ring and are therefore severely shielded, an effect similar to the nucleus-independent chemical shift method of analyzing aromaticity.

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Talk:Suze Rotolo

Charles Flato
No point in removing Charles Flato factoid. Digby
 * This little POV rant by an anonymous user is quite bizzare, "The elder Rotolos also were acquainted with people named Goldstien, Miller, Steinberg, Zuckerman, and many others smeared by the McCarthyite libel machine."

I don't know what this person is trying to prove but it is obvious they don't like reference to Charlie Flato, the Soviet spy and Rotolo's family. Just because it took the files of the Soviet Union to be available before Flato was discovered to be a spy does not mean that he wasn't. apparently the government didn't do enough because I would have loved to see this little dwarf strung up for his being a traitor to his country! So old Joe McCarthy didn't do enough to catch these traitorous spies.

If the anon thinks that people are trying to trash the Rotolo family I don't believe that is so. Otherwise the Communist Party would be much more prominent in the article wouldn't it? Anyway, the stuff about Flato is in the Flato article. Digby 14:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * There is a point in removing it, because having it there makes it seem as thought the fact that they knew someone who has been accused of being a spy was the single most important thing about the Rotolo family. Does Suze mention him in her autobio? If not, then, her parentsshould probably not be posthumously defamed by the insinuation that her parents, too, were spies. This is certainly trashing the Rotolos. Whatever happened to the presumption of innocence? Mballen (talk) 06:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, Suze states that in the 1930's her mother worked as a communist agent supplying false papers to Italians so that they could be smuggled out of Italy and fight for the communists in Spain. So being friends with another communist agent in the likes of Flato makes sense. Thanks to Suze for putting the pieces together for us. Digby (talk) 01:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

discussion of Rotolo etc.
I'm not trying to be anonomous just didn't work the buttons right.... in any case didn't mean to rant, was trying to make a point in a kidding way by listing random other New-Yorkish names as examples that the Rotolos knew a lot of people, as did most middle class New Yorkers (my parents included) in the 30's to the 50's ...could we leave out the random other names (everybody in NY knows a Goldstien...) Charles Flato was never arrested, as far as I can tell by reading about the case, and I'm not sure the accusations were true, but in reading references, he is so widely accused that it is useless to argue it at this late date. Still, if a guy wasn't ever convicted in this country, it's unfair to stick him with the name of a crime, isn't it? Karmu2

Censorship Issue
The below information has been removed twice by an anonymous user using an IP:Adress from WGBH in Allston, Massachusetts. Why would someone who works for Public Television be censoring an article? I'm totally confused. I thought that we were suppose to be against censorship! Flipsod2 19:42, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

"She became pregnant in 1963 by Dylan and decided to have an abortion. Also important, but less often noted, the influence of Bertolt Brecht on Dylan's songwriting and performing has been acknowledged by Dylan as stemming from her participation in Brechtian theater during their relationship. Dylan's interest in painting can also be traced back to his relationship with Rotolo. She travelled to Cuba in June of 1964, with a group, at a time when it was unlawful for Americans to do so, according to a July 1, 1964 article in the New York Times. In an August 19, article in the same publication she is quoted as saying, in regards to opponents of Fidel Castro that, "These gusanos are not suppressed. There can be open criticism of the regime. As long as they keep it to talk they are tolerated, as long as there is no sabotage." 'Gusanos' means worms."

Suicide Source
Although it is relatively common for someone to feel depressed and suicidal after having an abortion, what is the source that Rotolo attempted suicide after having her abortion? If this cannot be sourced then it would be appropriate to remove this reference from the article especially since the subject is presumably still living. Dwain 18:07, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

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Pietro Pezzati Fabrication
I have to say that I am irked by the information that Suze Rotolo apparently claims in her book that her uncle Peter Pezzati was a believer in Mussolini and Fascism. Never once did I ever hear Peter say anything favorable about Mussolini or Fascism. He'd talk about art, literature, architecture, music, travel and history and like his father could speak half a dozen languages. He was the closet thing to a genius I've ever encountered.

If true that Suze would say what is claimed, giving the impresssion that he of was a follower of Mussolini and a Fascist, I'm angry and perplexed. Peter always was very nice to her and spoke well about her. Why would she suggest such a thing and propogate such a myth to readers? I realize that many hippies believed anyone who didn't subscribe to their political views was a Facist but this is just too much.

Peter served in the U.S. Army during W.W. II illustrating manuals and painting war posters. He even was heard on Boston radio supporting the war effort. Her suggestion that he was a "believer" in Fascism and Mussolini is an out and out fabrication, which makes me wonder what else she isn't truthful about in her book. Friuli (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Probably 80% of Italians and a solid majority of Italian-Americans supported Mussolini, at least in a general sense-before the war. Same with Hitler and Germans. Given that the alternative in a Europe where democracy collapsed was the dubious joys of Stalin and Castro loving Communists like the Rotolo clan this is not surprising. 68.9.171.124 (talk) 01:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Opinions/Facts
I strongly feel that the bit that says "the separation from his girlfriend inspired Dylan to write two of his best love songs: 'Don't Think Twice, It's Alright' and 'Tomorrow is a Long Time'" should be removed since it states an opinion of a single anonymous contributor instead of a respectable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaval (talk • contribs) 23:40, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and remove it. Billions (talk)
 * The major Dylan biographies, Shelton, Heylin, Sounes, relate these 2 songs to Rotolo's absence in autumn & winter 1962, as refs show. Mick gold (talk) 11:00, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Died "following a long illness"?
What is the value of reporting illness if the illness is not specified? I suggest wiki contributors should attempt to determine exact causes of death rather than publishing vague statements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.14.106 (talk) 19:16, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Cause of death added as per New York Times obituary. Mick gold (talk) 11:01, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Death
Why have a sub-section entitled Death containing one sentence? I'll add that sentence to end of Biography section. Mick gold (talk) 11:04, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Marriage Year
The year of Rotolo's marriage is given as 1970, though the quoted reference to IMDb states it was 1972. Further confusion comes in the NY Times obituary giving it as 1967. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.70.90 (talk) 09:38, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

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"Sleepyhead" is also a song by "Passion Pit"...might want to disambiguate (I don't know how to do that) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.38.133.254 (talk) 19:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


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Ronald Forfar

Ronald Forfar (6 January 1939 – 28 September 2020) was a British actor who appeared in many roles since the 1970s, including the role of Freddie Boswell in Carla Lane's comedy Bread.

Biography
Ronald Forfar was born in January 1939 in Liverpool, Merseyside, England, UK. He was educated at Liverpool Collegiate, then was seven years in the Royal Navy before training at RADA from 1965 to 1967. He played a tragedian in Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead in 1966. Other parts include a tax inspector, Costello The Second, in Alan Bleasdale's The Muscle Market (a Boys from the Blackstuff prequel) and The Soothsayer in Herbert Wise's BBC television adaptation of Julius Caesar. Shakespearian roles include Bates in Henry V and First Officer in Laurence Olivier's version of King Lear.

Forfar also appeared in The Sweeney, Tutti Frutti, Chucklevision (as 'Professor Frimley'), The New Avengers and Graham Chapman's film Yellowbeard. He had three brothers, two of whom pre-deceased him.

In 2018 Ronald worked on what would be his last project, a short film called The All-Nighter, written and directed by Lee Phillips, and co-starring Erkan Mustafa and Martin Hancock.

Forfar died on 28 September 2020, at the age of 81.

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Talk:Power forward

=History=

...of the term is largely missing. The term "power forward" was invented in the '70s and first applied to a certain 6'10" Milwaukee Buck whose name escapes my memory, but I remember him being interviewed at the time and expressing pleasure in the invention and application of the term to him (by his coach, iirc). The guard positions weren't distinct either. Anyway, even in retrospect there's little reason to call Dave DeBusschere, e.g., a "power forward", as the article does. He may have gotten more rebounds than Bill Bradley (not hard), but he was just a forward and there was nothing about his game that said "center". Nowitzki's a pure small forward -- Avery Johnson's failure to understand that was the reason for the Mav's debacle against the Warriors in the first round that year they had the best record in the league. Pettit and Lucas are a different matter - but they played a lot of center. In the center-forward pairs the article lists... the one(s?) that include Bynum (and maybe Sampson?) include only one (the other guy). nb: Nate Thurmond briefly played forward with Wilt...but that didn't make him a power forward, just an out-of-position center. (Wayne Hightower didn't have good "small forward" skills, to use a similarly anachronistic term, either, which contributed to the resultant disaster.) Anyway, the main point of this note is to suggest a line of research to add the invention of the term, which I don't have time for right now. Andyvphil (talk) 21:51, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

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 * I see the deletionist crew have been at work, hiding most of this article's content in the memory hole. They are a disease, not the only one Wikipedia suffers from, but a serious one. Andyvphil (talk) 08:11, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The Buck I mention, is I believe, the then Don Smith (Zaid Abdul-Aziz), who played two seasons for the Bucks. Basketball Reference (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulza01.html ), lists him as a center for '68-68 and PF for '69-70, so perhaps the term's invention dates to the latter season. Andyvphil (talk) 19:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

a — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:82:8201:CF20:B456:B495:94EA:E4F5 (talk) 16:27, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

More sources
https://www.thehoopsgeek.com/average-nba-height/

talks about all positions and their average height with the total playtime to height with a comparison over time. Aidank02 (talk) 00:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

 * Not sure that is a reliable source. —Bagumba (talk) 03:11, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  00:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

– I think that the basketball position is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. First, there is a huge discrepancy when it comes to the pageviews. Since 2015, the ice hockey position averages only 43 views daily and never even had 500 views in a day; meanwhile, the basketball position averages almost 800 views daily. Second, there are 8,000+ articles linking to the basketball position, compared to the 67 for ice hockey, which is probably not a surprise because PF is a primary position in basketball, while the PF is just a "loosely applied characterization of a forward" in ice hockey. Lastly, with a simple Google search of the term "power forward", it's almost impossible to find anything about ice hockey. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 23:05, 19 October 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Power forward (basketball) → Power forward
 * Power forward → Power forward (disambiguation)
 * Comment The dab links' respective page views are here.—Bagumba (talk) 04:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support Meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC based on views and page links.—Bagumba (talk) 04:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support It does appear to be a clear primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:35, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Rikster2 (talk) 14:06, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom, particularly PF is a primary position in basketball, while the PF is just a "loosely applied characterization of a forward" in ice hockey (as well as page-view data). Walt Yoder (talk) 21:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/OpenGroupware.org

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The result of the debate was Keep. Redwolf24 03:41, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

OpenGroupware.org
Not popular enough to justify an article (issues of verification) 160k Alexa ranking.

lots of issues | leave me a message 22:45, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete poor Alexa rank, no Googles other than itself, so nn. -Splash 03:06, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a major open source competitor to Microsoft Exchange. It certainly could use some work, but VfD isn't cleanup. ~⌈Markaci⌋ 2005-08-21 T 07:23:25 Z
 * Keep. Had nagging suspicion that I had heard of these people before, went to look, seems like they have been around for a while. And they aren't exactly vaporware either, so there's a chance the article could be significantly expanded in future. --Wwwwolf 11:25, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
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The Mothers-in-Law

The Mothers-in-Law is an American sitcom featuring Eve Arden and Kaye Ballard as two women who were friends and next-door neighbors until their children's elopement made them in-laws. The show aired on NBC television from September 1967 to April 1969. Executive produced by Desi Arnaz, the series was created by Bob Carroll, Jr., and Madelyn Davis.

Premise
Eve (Eve Arden) and Herb Hubbard (Herbert Rudley) have lived next door to Kaye (Kaye Ballard) and Roger Buell (played first by Roger C. Carmel and later by Richard Deacon) for over 20 years. Herb is a successful lawyer, while Roger is a television writer who works at home. The Hubbards are very straitlaced, the Buells off-the-wall and fun-loving. Despite their differences, including an age disparity of about twenty years, they are best friends. In spite of their friendship, though, they do tend to get into more than their share of squabbles.

The Buells' son Jerry (Jerry Fogel) and the Hubbards' daughter Suzie (Deborah Walley) fall in love while in college, marry, and set up house in the Hubbards' garage apartment. The two sets of parents have different ideas of how their children should live their lives, and the constant meddling of the mothers-in-law provides the premise for the series. One of the differences between the two couples is that Kaye allowed Suzie to call her Mother Buell, but Eve forbade Jerry to call her Mother Hubbard because of the name's association with the English nursery rhyme. During the second season, the young couple become the parents of fraternal twins: a boy named Joey and a girl named Hildy—from the new grandmas' middle names.

Characters

 * Eve Arden as Eve Hildegarde Hubbard (née Windsor), homemaker wife of attorney Herb Hubbard and mother of Suzie Hubbard Buell. Her and Kaye's tendency to meddle and interfere with the kids' marriage and lives serves as the show's premise. When she gets annoyed with her husband or her male in-laws, she coldly utters "Beast!" She would also mock sarcastically in a high voice when shown something she finds unbelievable, especially something voiced by Herb or Kaye. The name of her granddaughter Hildy, whom she dotes on and spoils, comes from her middle name.
 * Kaye Ballard as Katherine "Kaye" Josephina Buell (née Balotta), wife of Roger Buell and overprotective mother of Jerry Buell. She is known for being less-than-thrilled to be a homemaker, for speaking Italian, and for smacking her husband when she's annoyed with him (smacking his back when they're in bed). She once had a showbusiness career, singing with bands like Ozzie Snick and Charlie Banks and His Ten Tellers. She can be overly emotional; her catch phrases include "Oh, reeeeally?", "Good luck with your MOUTH!", "This, THIS, is the thanks I get!", "Rats!" (usually uttered when she and Eve are thwarted in their schemes), and "Yes, YES, I am!" (Ballard notes that the catchphrases were inspired by her mother and she used them in her performance shows before and after the series’ run). She is affectionately nicknamed "Cookie". The name of her grandson Joey, whom she dotes on and spoils as she does his father, comes from her middle name.
 * Herbert Rudley as Herb Hubbard, a successful attorney who gets very exasperated with the wives' constant meddling and interfering with the kids and their marriage. He can be very temperamental in general. When he and Eve argue, they invariably repeat the other's words in anger.
 * Roger C. Carmel (season 1) and Richard Deacon (season 2) as Roger C. Buell, a bombastic television scriptwriter who often worked from home. Like Herb, he gets exasperated with the wives' constant interference with the kids. When annoyed with Kaye, he'd call her Katherine and announce "Now you hear this...". He is affectionately nicknamed "Cutes", is sometimes a target of Kaye's wrath, and is known for being a miserly cheapskate.
 * Jerry Fogel as Jerome "Jerry" Buell, a college student married to Suzie Hubbard and father of twins Hildy and Joey. Eve didn't think that Jerry was good enough, or financially-stable enough, for Suzie to marry. Although she likes Jerry, she refused to let him call her "Mother Hubbard." He is overly-protected by his doting mother Kaye, who calls him her "darling baby boy". Jerry and Suzie had grown up together and known one another all their lives.
 * Deborah Walley as Susan "Suzie" Buell (née Hubbard), a college student married to Jerry and mother of twins Hildy and Joey. Kaye didn't think Suzie was good enough for Jerry to marry, and she wanted him to marry an Italian girl. But she does love Suzie enough to let her call her "Mother Buell." Like her mother, Suzie would utter "Beast!" at her husband when annoyed with him. She could also become overemotional. (Actress Kay Cole portrayed the "Suzie" character in the unaired pilot episode only. In that episode, scenes with Cole were later reshot with Walley.)

Desi Arnaz, who produced and directed the show, appeared in four episodes as a matador named Raphael Delgado y de Acha III, whom the wives had called as a result of a wrong number, and became somewhat of a family friend.

This is one of the rare occasions in which the characters had the same first names as the actors portraying them. In the first season, the notable exception was Deborah Walley who played Suzie. In the second season, Richard Deacon played Roger C. Buell – replacing Roger C. Carmel – and joined Deborah in that distinction.

As well, Kaye Ballard's real name was Catherine Gloria Balotta; the maiden name of the character she played on this show was Katherine Josephina Balotta.

Production
The majority of the episodes were written by series creators Madelyn Davis and Bob Carroll, Jr., who had worked with series producer Desi Arnaz on I Love Lucy. Unlike most sitcoms of the era, The Mothers-in-Law was filmed before a live audience; standard practice at the time was to film an episode on a closed set and add a laugh track during post-production. However, a laugh track was still used to “sweeten” audience reactions or fill in gaps of missed punchlines.

When choosing the two lead roles, executive producer Desi Arnaz approached two longtime friends Eve Arden and Ann Sothern. Both actresses had been friends of Arnaz and his former wife Lucille Ball since the 1930s while working at RKO Pictures and MGM. Arden achieved television stardom in the hit CBS-TV sitcom Our Miss Brooks as high school teacher Connie Brooks from 1952 to 1956 and won an Emmy for Best Actress in a Comedy Series. The show was produced by Desilu. Sothern also had great success on television with her two popular sitcoms Private Secretary (as Susie MacNamara) from 1953 to 1956 and the Desilu-produced The Ann Sothern Show as (Katy O'Connor) from 1958 to 1961. She had also guest starred on the 1957 premiere episode of The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour entitled "Lucy Takes a Cruise to Havana" (reprising her role of Susie MacNamara) and on seven episodes of The Lucy Show (as the Countess Framboise - née Rosie Harrigan). However, NBC found Sothern and Arden's comedic style too similar and passed on casting Sothern. Singer-comedienne Kaye Ballard, another old friend, auditioned for and got the part of the neighbor, Kaye Buell.

Actress Kay Cole, who would later appear on Broadway in the original cast of A Chorus Line, portrayed the role of Suzie Hubbard in the unaired pilot; however, after the series was picked up, Cole was replaced by actress Deborah Walley who would remain with the series for its entire two-year run. The scenes featuring Cole were re-filmed for the aired version of the pilot, “On Again, Off Again, Lohengrin”, but Cole can be briefly glimpsed in the final shot before the end credits.

Ratings
Despite being sandwiched between Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color and Bonanza, the show never garnered the ratings NBC had hoped for. The first season ranked 37th with an 18.8 rating and the second season ranked 40th with a 19.4 rating. The network considered canceling the show after the first season, but agreed to renew it for the same price as the first season (after sponsor Procter & Gamble had announced plans to move the series to another network). All cast members agreed to do the second season for the same money except for Carmel, who was replaced with Richard Deacon. Season 2 performed worse than Season 1, leading to its cancellation. On The Doris Day Show Season 4 DVD, Ballard remarked that the network and sponsor wanted The Bill Cosby Show to replace The Mothers-in-Law during the 1969–70 season.

Home video release
MPI Home Video (under license from Desilu, Too (not to be confused with the original Desilu Productions, later Paramount Television, now CBS Studios) released the complete series of The Mothers-in-Law on DVD in Region 1 on July 27, 2010. This release includes a new introduction from Desi Arnaz, Jr., who appeared in two episodes as Tommy, a drum playing friend of Jerry and Suzie Buell; an interview with Kaye Ballard; the original unaired pilot episode (consists of the same footage as the first episode, "On Again, Off Again, Lohengrin," except with Kay Cole as Suzie instead of Deborah Walley; only Suzie's scenes would be reshot for the aired version); original sponsor tags; cast commercials; scripts for unproduced episodes; The Carol Channing Show, a comedy pilot which starred Carol Channing, Jane Dulo and Richard Deacon; and Land's End, a dramatic pilot starring Rory Calhoun. The latter were two failed pilots from Desi Arnaz Productions.

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The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 03:42, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

List of cult sponsors
This is just a list of companies that sponsored a few English football clubs about 15 years ago, and is thus useless. Aside from this, the word "cult" is ill-defined and the list is subjective. Rje 22:47, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, I was going to nominate this, but you beat me to it. - ulayiti (talk)  23:05, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete; pointless. Jaxl | talk 00:05, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
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Bruce Smathers

Bruce Armistead Smathers (born October 3, 1943) is a retired Democratic politician from Florida. He served as the 18th Secretary of State of Florida from 1975 to 1978.

Political career
Smathers began his political career in 1972, when he was elected to the Florida Senate from the 9th District, representing most of Duval County.

In 1974, he was elected Secretary of State. Once in office, Smathers reformed election laws, modernized the Division of Corporations, became involved in the "Atocha" treasure dispute, expanded support for cultural affairs, and was best known as leader of the successful effort to preserve Florida's Old Capitol (1845–1978). At the time he took office, he was the youngest member of the Florida Cabinet in the twentieth century.

In July 1978, Smathers resigned to campaign for governor. He lost in the Democratic primary to Bob Graham.

Family and background
He is the younger son of George Smathers, former Congressman and U.S. Senator for Florida. After attending the St. Alban's School, Smathers earned an undergraduate degree in Economics from Yale University (with honors) and a law degree from University of Florida (Florida Blue Key and Florida Law Review). A NROTC graduate, Smathers was commissioned as an Ensign in the United States Navy. Smathers received assignment to Naval Amphibious Base Coronado and subsequently completed Underwater Demolition Training Replacement Accession (UDTRA) training class 36, now known as BUD/S training. Smathers was assigned to Underwater Demolition Team Eleven (UDT-11), served with Naval Special Warfare Pacific, and was a decorated Vietnam War Veteran. After his political career, he combined law with lobbying, running family orange and automobile businesses, and became a successful investor serving on various private and charitable boards.

He presently resides between Jacksonville, Ponte Vedra Beach, and Cordillera, Colorado. He and his wife, Susan Gamble, have one son, Bruce, Jr.

College relations
Smathers was college roommates with two different members of Congress. Smathers roomed with U.S. Senator Bill Nelson during undergraduate studies at Yale University. Smathers roomed with Congressman Ander Crenshaw while studying at the University of Florida College of Law.

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