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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liz Shaw (New Zealand)

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. '''No consensus - keep. (See below for details)''' --HappyCamper 15:34, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Votes by established users:
 * Keep: 3 - inks, Robin Patterson, Nandesuka
 * Delete: 5 - KJPurscell, Aranda56, Lucky 6.9, fvw, Ziggurat

 * Renaming and disambiguation:
 * Elizabeth Joan Shaw or appropriate variant, plus disambiguation - 132.205.3.20, Allegrorondo, Lucky 6.9, inks, 203.173.189.162, Robin Patterson, Grutness, Crocos

 * Votes by the following users were discounted, primarily because of the low number of edit counts associated with them:
 * samf-nz, Nambio, Heyzoos, Crocos, Merstiner

 * The percentage of delete votes is 75% of 8 votes counted. This is a reasonable margin for deletion, hence delete both articles. In addition, since the article has been deleted, there is no need for the disambiguation. The suggestions for disambiguation here may be used as a guideline in the future if this article were to be reinstated. --HappyCamper 15:34, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Correction: Wikipedian inks was kind enough to double-check the counting, and noticed that Nandesuka's vote was incorrectly attributed as a "delete". This mistake has been corrected, and the numbers above reflect the new changes to the vote count. Of the 8 valid votes cast, 62.5% is for delete. This is marginally below the threshold of around 66% required for deletion, so the article "Liz shaw" will be undeleted and reinstated. "Liz Shaw NZ" contains the same content as "Liz shaw" as stated by 203.173.189.162. A disambiguation page Liz Shaw (disambiguation) will also be made as a result. --HappyCamper 02:22, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Liz shaw (with a lower case "s") and Liz Shaw NZ
Was first deleted before by me, but subsequently restored by me as well. There is sufficient content in here that probably should not have been speedily deleted, but I suspect this is not a notable subject and worthy of deletion. Would very much like a second opinion. Thanks very much! HappyCamper 05:54, 28 August 2005 (UTC) -- 02:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC): I added the other link to Liz Shaw NZ. Wikipedia shouldn't need two pages on this person? Perhaps I should notify the anonymous IP not to paste two copies of the article in Wikipedia. However, I think the reason why two pages exist is because I deleted one, and the IP created the other, and this sort of went back and forth... --HappyCamper 02:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Note: Due to the recent surge of vandalism to Liz shaw, I have protected both pages from being edited during this AfD process. The images used in both articles were deleted because they were not substantiated as material compatible with the GFDL. --HappyCamper 00:04, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think New Zealanders are going to have to make the call on this. Is there a New Zealander project to discuss this on?  Zoe 06:02, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I initially speedied it, but in retrospect it was too rash of a decision. Better to let vfd dialogue take over. I don't know if there is a New Zealander Wikipedian group. --HappyCamper 06:04, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * There is - one of the more active Country-specific WikiProjects, too, complete with portal. But I digress. FWIW, as a kiwi, I've never heard of her, but that may be just me. Grutness...  wha?  08:53, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Grutness - seeing as you live in Dunedin, there is a write up about the Liz Shaw phenomenon in a recent Critic issue. Here's a link to the online version, but I imagine you'll have no trouble finding a copy (although it's really not worth the time) :)--inks 10:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. Which isn't to say she's an uninteresting character.  But one episode?  One Idol crash-and-burn?  One magazine?  (Sigh.)  Maybe I should submit all my rejection slips and see if I can get a 'pedia article about me :) --KJPurscell 06:10, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Annon Edit; This above point is irrelevant as William Hung has a Wiki entry, for one bad audition he did. And Liz's subsequent publicity led to an invitation to do a porn movie with Ron Jeremy. Liz's publicity, while not on the same scale as William Hung's is still prolific considered New Zealand's size. I support the renaming to "Elizabeth Joan Shaw".

Keep The Liz Shaw Phenomenon is actually quite widespread here in NZ. She is reasonably (in)famous, and has featured on several NZ websites and magazines (including one of the adult variety). With all respect to KJPurscell, she has used her rejection as a springboard to more infamy (the same kind you'd get if you posed with your rejection slips in an erotic fashion). --inks 06:16, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Now there's a terrifying image. :) --KJPurscell 18:56, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * She sounds more notable than Angelyne. :) Zoe 06:27, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Annon: She is notorious amongst the student and youth pop of NZ but Dr Who would have arguably more world-wide relevance. However this does not mean the New Zealand Liz Shaw is not worth a wiki.
 * No vote yet . I'd like to hear from more experienced Kiwi Wikipedians on this issue.  On the one hand she seems "notable enough" but on the other hand everything I can find online about her looks like it is sourced from the same group of Internet forums; so it feels like this might just be an attack article by some very tenacious haters.  Also, the "links" section on this article is of tragically poor quality, although VfD is not cleanup. Nandesuka 12:29, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notability has been established to my satisfaction.  She's notable.  Stupid, but notable. Nandesuka 23:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep I was the one who placed the speedy tag on this but after it was restored I did some research and I found more than 200,000 hits in google but mostly from forums. It needs some HEAVY CLeanup ERASE THat Sex Junk thats why i placed it on speedy on the first place and erase some more of those comments and It could Stay. If Not Delete--Aranda56 02:00, 29 August 2005 (UTC) Vote Change Socks placed me from Weak Keep to 100 persent Delete --Aranda56 06:54, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * RENAME to "Elizabeth Joan Shaw" and disambig. Arguably outside of Kiwi-land, Dr. "Liz" Shaw, a character from Doctor Who is more notable. 132.205.3.20 21:00, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * rename per previous comment - my first thought was "why are they deleting Dr Who characters?". Allegrorondo 21:04, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I've just tidied up portions of the page. I believe the article's worthy of retention, since she is now extremely well-known online in NZ and is becoming so in the wider population as well. samf-nz 14:45, 30 August 2005 (NZT) User has less than 10 edits
 * Delete. I smell socks.  Take the above vote, for example.  Two edits, both to this page.  Naughty sock.  I found maybe three relevant Google hits for this individual.  I'd say a disambig of the "Liz Shaw" version to the Doctor Who character is a good choice. - Lucky 6.9 02:59, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * *Sniff* Suspicion is character assasination, not proof! :) I would use www.google.co.nz and repeat your search. Disambig, but it should be kept in some form.--inks 03:14, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete, and clothes pegs for everyone who smells socks. --fvw *  03:03, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * rename I originally posted this article, and wanted it to go under "Liz_Shaw_NZ" to avoid ambiguation wiht the Dr Who Liz Shaw. Due to an error on my part it was posted to "Liz_shaw" instead, and when HappyCamper deleted it, I reposted it to Liz_Shaw_NZ because I thought that it should go to a vote, rather than speedy deletion.  I would be happy for the article to be moved to Liz_Joan_Shaw, or left at Liz_Shaw_NZ with the Liz_shaw entry deleted.  Also, I would like to mention that I am none of the people refered to in the article. (posted by 203.173.189.162) --HappyCamper 03:18, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorry about that. In retrospect, this one shouldn't have been speedied which is why I've set up this VfD in the same sentiment you stated above. --HappyCamper 03:18, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete While she apparently has some notoriety, it's not nearly notable enough for Wikipedia (IMHO as an NZer, of course). One concern is that the Wikipedia article itself is intended as a springboard. I concur with KJPurscell regarding the supposed significance of this subject :) Ziggurat 03:25, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

 * I've lost track of the asterisks, so someone can reformat this if necessary. I've heard of her, despite having read no student mags, hardly any blogs, and very few newspapers in the last 12 months. Eurekster.com search engine has not heard of her (and has only one entry on the fictional one). She's not the best advertisement for New Zealand, but there's enough public knowledge of her to keep the article in WP, preferably with a properly styled page name such as "Liz Shaw, New Zealand". I think she is more encyclopaedic than US college football coach Paul Hines, for example (nothing personal, Paul and friends!). Robin Patterson 05:59:17, 2005-08-30 (UTC)
 * Unless she's suddenly become a town, that should be Liz Shaw (New Zealand), Robin! I'd agree with making Liz Shaw a dab page though. The good doctor's companion (the first one with the Pertwee Doctor, IIRC) is well known here too. Grutness...  wha?  04:16, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * For all those in NZ who are interested, Liz is appearing on 20/20 in relation to the porn shoot she did. It airs this thursday (Sept 1), 9:30pm, TV2 (posted by 203.173.189.162) --

 * KEEP She is well known in NZ, frequencting virtually every NZ internet forum, and being in numerous media publications.--Nambio 04:48, 1 September 2005 (UTC) User has less than 10 edits. Started editing today.

 * Keep I have nothing to add to this discussion other than I think the page should stay, for future reference for parents, who always need material to scare their children into behaving. Internet bogeywoman? --Heyzoos

 * Please keep There is nothing defaming or libellious, and this is a topic interesting and relevant to many New Zealanders. Everything quoted in the article was verifiable, sources were cited, and was a fair and neutral representation.

 * In addition this topic is also relevant to anyone interested in the effects of popular media on young adults. The "Liz Shaw" phenomenon is a (IMO) facinating look at how far some people will go to get noticed - whether through fame or infamy.

 * I support namming the topic as Liz Shaw NZ or Liz Shaw (New Zealand) as she is not known as Elizabeth Joan Shaw - as well as a dab page from Liz Shaw to the correct pages for both the "Liz Shaws. I suppose that if the topic WAS to be renamed Elizabeth Joan Shaw that could be handled through a Liz Shaw dab page also - would that mean that the current Liz Shaw page is renamed to Liz Shaw (Dr Who) or similar? Maybe. A topic merge of both the Liz shaw and Liz Shaw NZ entries is an excellent idea.

 * It's funny how despite having done a few Wikipedia entries and updates that it's a deletion that would actually prompt me to create an account... ;-)
 * --Crocos 12:10:06, 2005-09-03 (UTC)

 * KEEP She is a well known person in New Zealand, with her appearing in adverts that screen daily, a documentary last week, many discussion forums, and NZ Idol (albeit only in one show). It is important to separate opinions about her and her actions/style/way of life with the fact that she is now an emerging public/well-known figure. Merstiner 12:09, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Udo Kier

Udo Kierspe (born 14 October 1944), known professionally as Udo Kier, is a German actor. Known primarily as a character actor, Kier has appeared in more than 220 films in both leading and supporting roles throughout Europe and the Americas. He has collaborated with acclaimed filmmakers such as Lars von Trier, Gus Van Sant, Werner Herzog, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Walerian Borowczyk, Kleber Mendonça Filho, Dario Argento, Tom Shadyac, Charles Matton, Guy Maddin, Alexander Payne, and Paul Morrissey.

Early life
Kier was born in Cologne, near the end of World War II. The hospital where he was born was bombed by the invading Allied forces moments after his birth, and he and his mother had to be dug out of the rubble. He grew up without a father. In his youth, he was an altar boy and cantor. He moved to London, England, at the age of 18 to learn English.

Career
In 1966, Kier was cast in the lead role for the film Road to St. Tropez. An early starring role in Andy Warhol's Frankenstein (1973) led to a string of art-house, low-budget, and mainstream horror films, including a number of vampire-themed pictures Die Einsteiger (1985), Blade (1998), Modern Vampires (1998), Shadow of the Vampire (2000), Dracula 3000 and BloodRayne (2005). He has also become famous for his work with cult directors, including Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Walerian Borowczyk, Gus Van Sant, Christoph Schlingensief, and Dario Argento (whose classic Suspiria (1977) he was featured in). He has appeared in almost all of Lars von Trier's films since 1987's Epidemic (with the exceptions of The Idiots, The Boss of it All, Antichrist and The House That Jack Built). His most famous Hollywood roles include his appearance as Ron Camp in Ace Ventura: Pet Detective (1994), Curly in Barb Wire, as a NASA flight psychologist in Armageddon, as the villainous Lorenzini in The Adventures of Pinocchio and 1999 sequel The New Adventures of Pinocchio, and as Ralfi in the film Johnny Mnemonic. In 1992, Kier appeared in Madonna's controversial book Sex. He also appeared in the music videos for Madonna's songs "Erotica" and "Deeper and Deeper", both taken from Madonna's 1992 album Erotica. Kier also appeared in the music videos for Korn's "Make Me Bad", Eve's "Let Me Blow Ya Mind", and "Die Schöne und das Biest" by defunct German band Rauhfaser.

He has also worked extensively as a voice actor, starring as the psychic Yuri (as well as the voice of the PsiCorps) in Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 and its expansion, Yuri's Revenge. He also voiced the Music Master in Justice League, Herbert Ziegler in The Batman, Ivan Bahn in Metropia, Professor Pericles in Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated, Mister Toad in Beware the Batman, Warden in Axe Cop, Head Vampire Vampire in Major Lazer, Dylan Beekler's Backpack in Golan the Insatiable and Dr. Peter Straub in Call of Duty: WWII.

A documentary on his life and career entitled ICH-UDO...der Schauspieler Udo Kier (ME –UDO...the actor Udo Kier) was filmed for Arte, the European Franco-German culture channel, and released in 2012. In 2013, the documentary won the New York Festival "Finalist Certificate".

Personal life
Kier is gay, and has been open about his homosexuality his entire life. "No one ever asked about my sexuality. Maybe it was obvious, but it didn't make any difference because all that mattered was the role I was playing. As long as I did a good job on the part, no one cared about my sexuality."

He moved to Palm Springs, California, in 1991.

Music videos

 * Madonna: Erotica (1992) - Partyguest
 * Madonna: Deeper and Deeper (1992) - Lover
 * Goo Goo Dolls: Naked (1996) - Himself
 * Supertramp: You Win, I Lose (1997) - Partyguest
 * Rauhfaser: Die Schone und das Biest (1999) - Der Freier
 * Korn: Make Me Bad (2000) - Himself
 * Eve feat. Gwen Stefani: Let Me Blow Ya Mind (2001) - Partyguest
 * RMB: Deep Down Below (2001) - Dr. Wagner
 * Terranova: Prayer (2012) - Himself - Musician

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Camilo Torres Tenorio

José Camilo Clemente de Torres Tenorio (November 22, 1766 – October 5, 1816) was a Colombian politician. He is credited as being an early founder of the nation due to his role in early struggles for independence from Spain.

Biography
Torres was born in Popayán, Viceroyalty of New Granada in 1766. He was the son of Francisco Jerónimo Torres and María Teresa Tenorio. Torres studied in the Seminary of Popayán, where he met others of the leaders of the Colombian independence movement like Francisco Antonio Zea and his cousin, Francisco José de Caldas. He then moved to Santafé (now known as Bogotá), to study jurisprudence in the Colegio del Rosario, where he obtained a bachelor's degree in Canonical Law in June of 1790, and a J.D degree in 1791. He decided to settle in Santafé, where he opened an attorney's office.

Torres married María Francisca Prieto y Ricaurte in 1802 in Bogotá. They had six children.

Torres was part of a generation that had witnessed the Insurrection of the Comuneros in 1781, and had experienced the independence of the United States in 1776 and the French Revolution in 1789. Antonio Nariño had translated into Spanish the "Declaration of the Rights of Man" in 1794, and had spread the influence of these ideas all throughout Latin America. This translation led to Nariño being exiled, and many of the students in the Colegio del Rosario were in turn persecuted, including Torres.

With the abdication of Ferdinand VII in Spain, Torres advocated the formation of a Junta, such as were being created in Spain, in support of the abdicated king. Torres also supported the creation of the Supreme Central Junta in 1809, particularly as it was supposed to include representation from the American colonies. This representation, however, was very small and insignificant, and this led to Torres writing his famous "Memorial de agravios" (Memorial of Grievances), where he complained about the lack of equality for American Spaniards and the scarce attention that the American colonies received from the Spanish crown. Torres, however, praised the Spanish authority and expressed his desire that the colonies would not secede. The dissolution of the Supreme Central Junta led to the creation of local juntas in many provinces in Latin America, which consolidated the thirst for independence of the American colonies. In Santafé, a Junta was established on July 20, 1810, which demanded the creation of an open council and independence from Spain. Among the deputies of such council was Camilo Torres, and he was one of the signers in the Act of Independence of the Supreme Junta of Santafé. Torres was also involved in finding some understanding with the Spanish crown.

Antonio Nariño started publishing a small newspaper called La Bagatela in 1811, where he presented his centralist ideas for the government of the new country. This soon made him an antagonist of Torres, who instead supported federalist ideas that emphasized autonomy for the provinces. This conflict led to the formation of two political parties, the centralist one (the "pateadores" or kickers) represented by Nariño, and the Federalist one (or "carracos"), formed by Torres and representatives from other provinces. The federalist faction formed the United Provinces of New Granada in 1811, and Torres was appointed as President of its congress between 1812 and 1814, and then as President of the United Provinces between 1815 and 1816. During this period, Camilo Torres befriended Bolívar. The Province of Santafé had declared itself independent and adopted the name of Free and Independent State of Cundinamarca. The tensions between the centralist Cundinamarca province and the federalist United Provinces eventually led to a civil war that culminated in the surrender of the Cundinamarca province to the federalist troops commanded by Bolívar in 1814. This period of strife and chaos is called often la Patria Boba.

Meanwhile, king Ferdinand VII of Spain had been restored to power and sent a large army to quell the rebellions and reconquer the lost colonies. The Spanish army, commanded by General Pablo Morillo led a violent, and successful military campaign that culminated in the capture of Santafé on May 6, 1816. Fearing Morillo's troops, Torres escaped to the small town of El Pital, near Neiva. He then tried to escape the country by boarding a ship to Argentina in the port of Buenaventura, but he was captured by the troops of Juan Sámano after the ship departed without him and others in July, 1816. He was sent to Santafé, where he was executed by a firing squad for treason against the Spanish monarchy on October 5, 1816.

After his death, all of his possessions were confiscated and his family was stranded in poverty. When Bolívar became president he decided to support them by donating part of his own stipend every month. Camilo Torres' face has appeared in the $2 and $50 Colombian peso banknotes.

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Talk:Bernard Cohen (physicist)

Vote for Deletion
This article survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 05:55, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

POV
It shouldn't be deleted, but an actual biography should be put in place! Simesa 18:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

404
The reference "[1]" to "Cohen's fallacy", http://radlab.nl/radsafe/archives/0202/msg00329.html, goes to a website that no longer exists. Brief searching has not revealed an alternative source.

There is a wayback machine copy from 2007 at: http://web.archive.org/web/20070927041759/http://radlab.nl/radsafe/archives/0202/msg00329.html

The reference "[2]" to the journal Health Physics does not point to the abstract mentioned.

Thus the lede of the first topic ("... debates ... are well known ...") in this supposedly biographical article has become nothing but badly referenced POV. Snezzy (talk) 04:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Passing of BL Cohen
I've found the obituary for BL Cohen here. Regards, ConradMayhew (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Pittsburgh Tribune-Review  has a longer one ; I'll look at it later to see if there's anything with which to supplement the WP page, unless someone does it first. --Old Moonraker (talk) 06:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

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The intro says "Cohen was a staunch opponent of the so-called Linear no-threshold model [...]" which was "considered in the 1980s and 1990s a self-marginalizing posture"; considered by whom? I've been reading his book online and he makes it clear in Chapter 5 that he is simply trying to convey the conclusions of scientific organizations (BEIR, UNSCEAR, NCRP) that are tasked with studying radiation hazards. Either the intro is misleading, or Cohen is lying about their findings (which I very much doubt, first because the book makes a strong case, and second because if he was a liar, wouldn't other scientists accuse him of being one? If I Google "Bernard Cohen accused of lying in his book on nuclear power", google responds "It looks like there aren't many great matches for your search".) Relevant book quote: "both UNSCEAR[12] and NCRP[19] estimate that risks at low dose and low dose rate are lower than those obtained from the straight line relationship by a factor of 2 to 10. For example, if 1 million mrem gives a cancer risk of 0.78, the risk from 1 mrem is not 0.78 chances in a million as stated previously, but only 1/2 to 1/10 of that [....] The 1980 BEIR Committee accepted the concept of reduced risk at low dose and used it in its estimates. The 1990 BEIR Committee acknowledges the effect but states that there is not enough information available to quantify it and, therefore, presents results ignoring it but with a footnote stating that these results should be reduced."

Later it is said that "Professor Cohen stated [...] that low levels of radiation can have beneficial health effects" but the quote afterward from Cohen does not support this claim. Cohen's book doesn't mention hormesis, either, nor does it ever suggest that low doses of radiation are either beneficial or harmless. If Cohen ever expressed a belief in hormesis (I doubt it, but I can't read the two offline references for this claim), it would mean that he had changed his mind after publishing his book. This is illustrated quite vividly in a quote from Chapter 13: 'Nader continued to state, in his speeches and writings, that a pound of plutonium could kill 8 billion people, 4,000 times my estimate. In fact, he accused me[37] of "trying to detoxify plutonium with a pen." In response, I offered to inhale publicly many times as much plutonium as he said was lethal. [....] My offers were such as to give me a risk equivalent to that faced by an American soldier in World War II, according to my calculations of plutonium toxicity which followed all generally accepted procedures. These offers were made to all three major TV networks, requesting a few minutes to explain why I was doing it. I feel that I am engaged in a battle for my country's future, and hence should be willing to take as much risk as other soldiers.'

Edit: I suspect that the original author(s) of this article simply made the mistake of conflating hormesis with the general idea of a sublinear dose-response - which is a serious mistake that caused the author to believe that Cohen was a "marginalized", contrarian scientist. My judgement so far is that he is close to the mainstream scientifically, and only marginalized in the sense that mainstream scientific views about radiation are marginalized by the media/public. This is illustrated by a passage in chapter 5: 'If TV producers took their role of educating the public seriously, they would have considered it their function to transmit scientific information from the scientific community to the public. But this they didn't do. They wanted to decide what to transmit, which means that they made judgments on scientific issues. When I brought this to their attention, they always said that the scientific community was split on the issue of dangers from radiation. By "split" they seemed to mean that there was at least one scientist disagreeing with the others. They didn't seem to recognize that a unanimous conclusion of a National Academy of Sciences Committee should be given more weight than the opinion of one individual scientist who is far outside the mainstream. Their position was that, since the scientific community was split, they had no way to find out what the scientific consensus was. To this I always proposed a simple solution: pick a few major universities of their choice, call and ask the operator for the department chairman or a professor in the field, and ask the question; after five such calls the consensus would be clear on almost any question, usually 5 to 0. The TV people never were willing to do this. My strong impression was that they weren't really interested in what scientists had concluded. They were only after a story that would arouse viewer interest.' I'd like to correct the article myself, but I am not an expert on radiation or Cohen's research, and I'm unfamiliar with proper Wikipedia protocols and customs. I think the appropriate thing is to add a "Dispute template". Qwertie (talk) 22:05, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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NRV

NRV may stand for:

 * Net realizable value of an asset
 * Norddeutscher Regatta Verein, a German yacht club
 * Not Really Vanished, computer compression algorithm in UPX
 * Valmet Nr I and Valmet Nr II Helsinki trams
 * Non Return Valve (check Valve)

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IG Culture

IG Culture is a London musician and performer best known as a pioneer of the broken beat movement. His production features rhythms and hybrids of several musical styles such as jazz-fusion, funk and soul.

Musical career
IG Culture first became known as a member of the hip-hop duo Dodge City Productions in 1990. After the demise of that outfit, he founded an independent record label One Drop Interouter which released four albums. Later, he worked with the People label and founded the Main Squeeze label. He now runs the CoOp presents label with Alex Phountzi.

IG Culture produced an album by Japanese jazz artist Monday Michiru - Jazz Brat - in 1995 and appeared on the Roots Manuva album Brand New Second Hand in 1999. In 2001, he compiled and released a various-artists album called Inspirations album followed by a 2-CD set of the same name in 2003. He also produced tracks from the Les Nubians album One Step Forwardincluding the title track released in 2003. In 2019 Ig Culture returned to the studio and completed work on a new album which is a soundtrack to a theater dance show, the OST was titled EarthBound and is due for release late in 2019

New Sector Movements
Circa 2000, IG Culture founded the New Sector Movements project. While predominantly consisting of work by Culture himself, the project also serves as a collective featuring a number of broken beat artists such as Eric "Murky Waters" Appapoulay, Eska Mtungwazi, Kaidi "Agent K" Tatham, Julie Dexter and Kate "Bémbé Ségué" Phillips, as well as Frank McComb (ex-Buckshot LeFonque) and strings duo Chix With Stix (Izzy Dunn & Stella Page). New Sector Movements signed with Virgin Records and its debut release was the 2001 EP No Tricks, which was followed by the Download This album later the same year. In 2004 the project released its second album Turn It Up, this time credited to NSM.

Discography

 * The Clarity EP 1992 as Dodge City Productions
 * No Tricks EP 2001 with New Sector Movements
 * Download This 2001 with New Sector Movements
 * Inspirations 2001
 * Inspirations (2CD) 2003
 * Turn It Up 2004
 * Zen Badizm 2008 available only in Japan
 * Soulful Shanghai 2012

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Council for Excellence in Government

The Council for Excellence in Government was a public/private partnership organization initiated in the 1980s designed to improve the effectiveness of federal, state, and local government in the United States. The organization ceased to operate in 2009 and the majority of its staff and programs moved to the Partnership for Public Service.

Originally, the Council was a brainchild of several ex-government officials who had moved on to success in the private sector. They felt that government services and responsiveness to public needs would improve if there were an organization that could bring the private and the public together to meet and exchange ideas.

The Council commissioned public polls, attempted to engage citizens and generate interest in public service, and provided generous awards for innovation in government. Council supporters, called principals, provided advice, assistance, and monetary sponsorship for the Council's activities.

The Council was non-partisan in nature, and had former Presidents Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush, and Bill Clinton as honorary chairs of its board. Former President Gerald Ford was also an honorary co-chair until his death.

Virginia philanthropist Alan Voorhees, whose architectural firm designed the Metro system in Washington, D.C., and many other capital cities around the world in the 1960s and 1970s, provided seed money and office space in the early 1980s. Voorhees was always interested in applications of technology to public problems, and was the inventor of the "gravity theory" of traffic flow which was used in transportation planning since the 1950s.

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User talk:BarrettBrown

Leave me a comment, I'm so lonely on my internet tubez.

Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Master of Puppets Care to share?  05:02, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

November 2007
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Gamer007 (talk) 08:17, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

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Vectograph

A vectograph is a type of stereoscopic print or transparency viewed by using the polarized 3D glasses most commonly associated with projected 3D motion pictures.

Credit for the concept of the vectograph is due to Joseph Mahler, cousin of composer and conductor Gustav Mahler. He immigrated to the US from Czechoslovakia in 1938 and was hired by the Polaroid Corporation, where he worked with its founder Edwin Land, to develop his idea into a practical process.

An elementary vectograph is a polarizing filter sheet that encodes a photographic image as areas that polarize light more or less strongly, corresponding to the darker and lighter areas of the image. When the sheet is viewed by itself in ordinary light, a pale image becomes visible. When viewed through a uniformly polarizing filter sheet oriented in the same plane of polarization, the image is almost completely invisible. If either sheet is rotated 90 degrees about its axis, so that their planes of polarization are at right angles, the image becomes boldly visible.

If two such images, made to polarize in opposite directions and each encoding one of the images of a stereoscopic pair, are superimposed and viewed through glasses containing appropriately oriented polarizing filters, each eye sees only one of the images and a single three-dimensional image is perceived by people with normal stereoscopic vision.

Vectographs in their native form are transparencies, to be viewed by transmitted light or projected onto a suitable non-depolarizing screen, but by limiting the density of the images and backing the vectograph with a non-depolarizing aluminum-based paint, a print for viewing by reflected light can be produced.

Vectographic prints and transparencies can serve many of the same purposes as their anaglyph equivalents, but with the visual advantage that they do not require the use of viewing filters which are of disturbingly different colors for each eye. However, while anaglyph images can be produced by virtually any photographic or mechanical printing process capable of producing a two-colored image, vectographic images require specialized materials and printing technologies, limiting their practical application.

During World War II, stereoscopic aerial reconnaissance photographs were printed in the form of vectographs, both as reflective prints for use by troops in the field and as transparencies to be projected onto a screen for group viewing and discussion. Instructional use was made of projected vectograph slides illustrating three-dimensional coordinate systems.

Although originally a monochrome "black-and-white" process only, experimental full-color vectographs were soon being made by Polaroid. During the 3D fad of 1953, vectographic 3D color motion picture prints that could be shown with ordinary unmodified projectors were expected to be a commercial reality, but the rapid waning of public enthusiasm for 3D discouraged those efforts. The original full-color process was apparently never put to any commercial use.

Circa 2000, the Rowland Institute, once part of Polaroid and now part of Harvard University, introduced a modernized ink jet printer version of the technology under the name "StereoJet". Color vectograph printing service for digital image files was offered to the public, but it was expensive and little-used. As of 2012 it is no longer available.

The most common vectographs, if any examples of the process may be called common, are those in the booklets of "Ortho-Fusor" stereoscopic eye exercises first issued by Bausch and Lomb in the 1940s and available for many years. Also relatively common is the Titmus Fly Stereotest, a greatly enlarged stereoscopic image of a fly used by optometrists and ophthalmologists to determine if patients, especially young children, have normal stereoscopic vision. Currently available vectographic vision training aids, marketed under the registered trademark name "Vectogram", include a variety with the left-eye and right-eye images overlaid on separate transparent plastic sheets so as to be adjustable. Subjects include a quoits hoop, a spirangle, and a hyperstereoscopic view of the Chicago skyline.

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Don Swayze

Donald Carl Swayze (born August 10, 1958) is an American character actor, noted for acting in dramatic series and soap operas as well as several feature films, and theatrical work.

Early life
Swayze was born in Houston, Texas, the middle child of Patsy Swayze (née Karnes; 1927–2013), a dance teacher; and Jesse Wayne Swayze (1925–1982), an engineering draftsman. Patsy owned a dance studio where neighborhood students took dance lessons. Donald and his older brother Patrick Swayze (1952–2009), both attended and graduated from Frank Black Junior High School and then Waltrip High School in northwest Houston. He also had an older sister, Vickie Lynn (1949–1994). Furthermore, Donald also has one younger brother, Sean Kyle (born 1962), and one younger sister Bora Song "Bambi" (born 1966), who was adopted by the Swayzes’.

Film
Swayze's film work has included an appearance as a dancer in the 1980 film Urban Cowboy, as Ruben in the film Father for Charlie, and as Mark in the film Shy People, along with a role alongside Corey Feldman in a movie called Edge of Honor where he played the part of a "Homicidal Lumberjack". He had a brief (2 minute) cameo appearance role as Obnoxious Guy in The Cutting Edge: Going for the Gold (Video 2006) - IMDb. He also played Col. Sherman Rutherford in a western–noir hybrid titled Heathens and Thieves in 2012. He also starred in the film Death Ring, and as the Alamo courier James Bonham in Alamo: The Price of Freedom, an IMAX film shown in San Antonio, Texas.

Television
Swayze performed the role of James (Jim) Mackey in the seventh episode of season five on the Netflix series Longmire. He appeared in two soap operas: The Young and the Restless and Days of Our Lives. In 2010, Swayze guest-starred in six episodes in a recurring role as Gus, a werewolf, on the HBO series True Blood. His television drama work includes multiple appearances in Murder, She Wrote, The X-Files, NYPD Blue, NCIS, Carnivàle, and dozens of other programs. Swayze had a role as an intellectually disabled man suspected of murder in an episode of the television drama Matlock. In 1989 he portrayed a member of a gang that held hostages in the hotel in the Western drama Paradise. He played Jesse James in a season-two episode of Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman. He played the demon Lucius in an episode of Charmed in 2005. He had a recurring role on Criminal Minds, specifically the episodes "The Big Game" and "Revelations", in which he played Charles Hankel, the father and alternate personality of serial killer Tobias Hankel. On Cold Case, Swayze played the adult Grant Hall. Swayze had a small guest appearance on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia as a crazy boat captain. He has also appeared on Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction, and The Bridge. Swayze also appeared in an episode of Sons of Anarchy. In 2017, he joined the cast of General Hospital for a stint in the role of Buzz. Additional roles include a non-speaking role as rapist William Dollar on L.A. Law. In 2019, Swayze appeared in the season premiere of American Horror Story: 1984, the ninth installment of the FX horror anthology television series American Horror Story, and played Dennis Seacrest, a murderous henchman working for George Hearst, in Deadwood: The Movie that same year.

Stage
In 2001, Swayze was on stage as Pedro in Man of La Mancha at the Simi Valley Cultural Arts Center. In 2005, he played Roy in the comedy Lone Star at the Beverly Hills Playhouse. In the fall of 2011, he co-starred with Anne Archer in an original stage play titled Jane Fonda: In the Court of Public Opinion at the Edgemar Theater in Santa Monica, California; he played U.S. Army Sgt. Don Simpson (retired), a wounded veteran of the Vietnam War.

Personal life
Don Swayze is an avid cyclist and skydiver, and races cross country mountain bikes in his spare time. Don is married to Charlene Swayze. Don and Charlene have established an animal therapy ranch in San Diego County, California known as Swayze Ranch. Charlene has also established the Swayze Foundation.

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Talk:Bobby Henderson

Vote for Deletion
This article was redirected to Flying Spaghetti Monsterism as a result of a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 05:59, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Reverted page to redirect, following directions above. Please do not change the redirect without first starting a discussion here.  Thank you!   DangerousNerd  talk  01:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IG Culture

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash 01:52, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

IG Culture
Vanity/bandity/non-notable. Paul Klenk 05:59, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 *  Delete  following cleanup, change vote to Keep SaltyPig 12:07, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong keep, wikify and improve. Please do a bit of research before accusing an article of vanity and non-notability. There are two IG Culture CDs available on amazon. He gets 737 unique hits on google, including his own page on BBC Radio 1. Are you making a WP:POINT with all of these WP:PFD nominations? Pburka 15:04, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup. Has Allmusic.com article which shows him as an important broken beat artist and producer see |CULTURE&uid=MIW010508281327&samples=1&sql=11:bt61mppf9f7o~T1. Appears to meet WP:music. Capitalistroadster 17:33, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup per above arguments. Punkmorten 19:17, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I have cleaned up this article. No change of vote from keep. Capitalistroadster 09:32, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Mikri Vigla

Mikri Vigla (Greek: Μικρή Βίγλα, "little lookout") is a small village on the Greek island of Naxos famed for its nearby beaches. It is located about 18 km south of the city of Naxos.

Its popular nearby beaches include Parthena, located to the north and 600 meters (1800 ft) long, and Limanaki, to the west that goes on for 3200 meters (10,500 ft) till Kastraki village.

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Parthena

Parthena is a Greek feminine name. Notable people with this name include:
 * Parthena M. Blank, one of the namesakes of the historic Stephen and Parthena M. Blank House in Oregon
 * Parthena Garcos, fictional character in 1950 film noir Thieves' Highway
 * Parthena Horozidou, Greek actress, competitor in Your Face Sounds Familiar (Greek series 4)
 * Parthena Katsaounis, Greek-American statistician
 * Parthena Sarafidis, Austrian figure skater

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Uplands, Greater Victoria

Uplands, Victoria (known locally as "the Uplands") is a 188.17 ha neighbourhood located in the north east part of the District of Oak Bay, a suburb adjacent to Victoria, British Columbia, Canada, and situated between the neighbourhoods of Cadboro Bay and North Oak Bay. Uplands is a prominent example of a garden suburb designed in the early part of the 20th century.

In 1907, the developers of Uplands, John A, Robert and Dawson Turner previously cattle and horse ranchers from Turner Valley Alberta and originally Scotland purchased the area for the sum of $275,000 and hired the leading landscape architect John Olmsted as the designer. Olmsted designed famous neighbourhoods and parks in North America. The Uplands of today is faithful to Olmsted's vision: an elegant neighbourhood with estate-sized lots, serpentine streets and the signature green, globed, ornate lamp posts. The houses are built to impress and the sprawling gardens are carefully manicured. For John Olmsted personally, of all his subdivision projects, Uplands was “unquestionably the best adapted to obtain the greatest amount of landscape beauty in connection with suburban development.”

Uplands has a seaside setting and has within its boundaries the large Uplands Park. Uplands Park is not the manicured park of flower beds and walks that might be expected in such a meticulously designed garden suburb. Rather, it is a wild, seaside expanse of jagged rock crags, trees stunted and shaped by the wind, lonely heaths and dramatic ocean vistas. The wildness of Uplands Park contrasts sharply with the manicured lawns and flower beds in front of the mansions that line Beach Drive, the main road through Uplands.

In keeping with its seaside location, the Royal Victoria Yacht Club is located within the Uplands, and is the oldest yacht club in British Columbia.

National Historic Site Designation
On 19 August 2019, the minister responsible for Parks Canada announced that the Government of Canada had designated Uplands (Oak Bay, BC) as a National Historic Site. Parks Canada says that Uplands “is an exceptional example of subdivision design and planning”. John C. Olmsted's design is “among the finest works of a renowned landscape architect” which “changed the way suburbs were planned well into the 20th century.”  It also notes that a number of the houses in Uplands were designed by Canada's and British Columbia's leading architects.

Oak Bay council voted on 13 October 2020 to install at Midland Circle a commemorative plaque to be provided by Parks Canada, in recognition of Uplands as a National Historic Site.

Physical environment
The bedrock under Uplands is quartz diorite gneiss. Soils are well drained sandy loams of the Cadboro and Langford series (Cd-L or Lsl), or poorly drained sandy clay loams of the Tolmie series (Tscl); all have thick dark topsoils. In near-shore areas the soils are more stony and are mapped as Langford-Rough Stony complex(L-Rs).

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User:Bobrainbolt

Bob Rainbolt source for the Morrilton Ice picture is the Morrilton Petit Jean Country Headlight newspaper. The editor of the Headlight is Charlotte Hodge.

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Buna

Buna may refer to:

Places

 * Buna, Mostar, a village in Bosnia and Herzegovina at the confluence of the Buna and Neretva rivers
 * Buna, Kenya, a town in Wajir County
 * Buna, Ivory Coast, a town in Zanzan District
 * Buna, Papua New Guinea, a village in Oro Province, Papua New Guinea
 * Buna Airfield, an aerodrome located near Buna, Papua New Guinea
 * Buna, Texas, a census-designated place in Jasper County
 * Buna concentration camp, a Nazi concentration camp run during WWII

Rivers and other waterbodies

 * Buna (Adriatic Sea), a river in Albania and Montenegro (known as Bojana in Montenegro)
 * Buna (Neretva), a Neretva tributary in Bosnia and Herzegovina
 * Buna Bay, a bay and port of Papua New Guinea

Languages

 * Buna language, a Torricelli language of Papua New Guinea
 * Mbum language or Buna language, an Adamawa language of Cameroon

Rubber

 * Buna rubber, tradename for Polybutadiene, a synthetic rubber
 * Buna Werke Schkopau, a former IG Farben synthetic rubber plant near Halle (Saale), Germany, later VEB Chemische Werke Buna
 * Monowitz Buna Werke, a former IG Farben synthetic rubber plant with an attached Nazi German labor camp near Oswiecim, Poland

Ships

 * HMAS Buna (L 132), a Balikpapan-class heavy landing craft operated by the Royal Australian Navy
 * JDS Buna (PF-294), a Tacoma-class frigate operated by the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force

People

 * Buna Lawrie, an Australian Aboriginal musician

Other uses

 * Buna maflat, an Ethiopian coffee ceremony
 * HD 16175 or Buna, a star
 * Fagus crenata or buna, a deciduous tree of the beech family
 * Sac de gemecs (Andorran: Buna), a type of bagpipe in Catalonia

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Vote for Deletion
This page survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 06:06, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

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Lu Kuang

Lu Kuang may refer to:

 * Lukuang football team, now National Sports Training Center football team, Taiwan
 * Lü Kuang (呂曠), a military officer in the Battle of Nanpi

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Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/Rdsmith4 2

Rdsmith4
[ Vote here] (51/1/0) ending 06:06, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I've been a Wikipedian since April 2004 and a sysop since October 2004. Like Andrevan, I nominated myself last year (see my old nom, which for some reason does not appear in the archives) and discovered that many editors did not think additional bureaucrats were necessary. However, I feel that the new duty of changing usernames warrants a few more helping hands, and I am quite willing to assist in whatever administrative duties I can.

I believe that in my actions as an administrator I have gained the trust of the community; thus, I once again submit my request for bureaucratship. — Dan | Talk 06:10, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * To everyone who supported me, thanks so much. I really appreciate your compliments and will continue to serve the community as best I can. — Dan | Talk 06:12, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Support
 * 1) As I supported last time, so will I support this time. Andre ( talk ) 06:27, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Most definately, a great admin and I think that we need more bureaucrats to help users with username changes. Jtkiefer  T - 07:11, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Agreed. Radiant_ >|< 07:56, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support--Exir KamalabadiFeel free to criticize me 09:23, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Support. I believe that the pool of bureaucrats should be enlarged, and Dan is a perfect candidate. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 11:25, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Support! We need more bureaucrats, and Dan's the man ;-) Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 13:12, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Merovingian (t) (c) 13:41, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) Support. As with Andrevan, this is a no-brainer, entirely worthy. Func( t, c, @,) 14:33, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 9) Support. Due to username changes, we now need more bureaucrats. Carbonite | Talk 14:45, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 10) Support Uh-oh...what has andre started? A new influx of bureaucrats...this oughtta hold us for 3 years now! Anyways, Rdsmith4, in my opinion, is one of the best editors of Wikipedia, and thus is fully deserving of the bureaucrat title. — Ilγαηερ   (Tαlκ) '' 15:35, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I sure hope not! I want to run once I hit one year on Wikipedia :-) Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 16:02, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Support; another I fully support and trust to use good judgement here. Because of our increased, and still increasing size, a couple more bureaucrats are a good idea.  Antandrus  (talk) 16:10, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support - we need bureaucrats who can ignore the red tape at times. Dan is a fair, level-headed and practical person. Rob Church Talk 23:13, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support --Phroziac (talk) 23:14, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Yup - a sudden flurry of worthy potential bureaucrats - is this the start of a trend? Grutness...  wha?  01:04, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) I don't know if it's a trend, Grutness, but it's good for the community to have a little practice with these nominations. --Michael Snow 01:12, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Absolutely. I think it's distinctly unfortunate that nominations were effectively frozen for so long, and I have no problem admitting that some of the current bureaucrats (myself included) have been slow to act.  Pakaran 01:33, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Great admin, would make a good bureaucrat. JYolkowski // talk 02:26, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) Support: a trustworthy and valuable editor who will handle the position well. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 05:02, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 9) Support, Tony the Marine 05:39, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * 10) Support, K1Bond007 05:51, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * 11) El_C 08:53, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 12) Support, Dan would be a very level-headed bureaucrat. Rje 12:02, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * 13) Support -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 18:05, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 14) Support, It's a wonder to me why you failed in your previous campaign. Keep up the good work! I hope to see you as a bureaucrat soon! corypark 17:29, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * corypark, why don't you use your user account to vote instead of the anonymous IP address ? You know, the user account "corypark" you created just today, a few minutes after you (as 68.21.6.1) nominated corypark for adminship... the user account that still has zero contributions as of this moment?  Please don't take this as an attack, it's just a bit puzzling. -- Curps 23:57, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:32, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Not sure we need more bureaucrats, we just need the ones we have to realise their duties have been extended to renaming accounts. But what the heck, have a bureaucratship. --fvw *  05:20, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support.   ral  315  05:26, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support. JuntungWu 12:39, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Support. A pleasing addition to the poorly named "bureaucrat" class. Bratsche talk  5 pillars 13:21, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Support Oh, why not? B-crats could use some new faces.  Acetic Acid  ( talk  ) 14:33, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Support Good candidate. Thanks for answering my questions :). Ryan Norton T 23:35, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) Support I believe that he would make a great B-Crat. If you don't agree with me, take a look at some of the great admin above who are supporting him. Tony the Marine 04:23, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * 9) Support. The more, the merrier! --Tito xd 06:33, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 10) David Gerard 12:43, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 11) James F. (talk) 14:41, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 12) Theo  (Talk) 16:46, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 13) Support.  Absolutely. --Canderson7 18:14, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * 14) On my first opportunity to vote on a candidacy for bureaucratship, I vote support for this user. Denelson83 23:09, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 15) Support  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  07:38, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * 16) Support. Give this one a bigger mop! -- BD2412  talk 17:29, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 17) Support --Saluyot 01:40, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * 18) Support No brainer.  Jobe  6  [[Image:Peru flag large.png|20px]] 08:26, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * 19) Support --Alan Au 14:49, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 20) He can have the keys to the key cabinet to the mop cupboard.  [[smoddy ]] 17:52, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 21) Support without prejudice.  Hall Monitor 18:25, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 22) Support, thumbs up! - Mailer Diablo 06:41, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 23) Support, I never forget those who believed in me. I think you'll make a great Bureacrate.  Tony the Marine 08:16, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * 24) SupportRobert McClenon 19:17, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 25) Support. Fire Star 22:06, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 26) Support.  —RaD Man (talk) 22:11, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 27) Support Zzyzx11 (Talk) 23:37, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) --Boothy443 | comhrÚ 04:51, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Neutral

Comments

 * Just for fun I'll throw out a question :). You mention in 3A that you've never been sufficiently "wikistressed" by any turn of events, and assert that you're uncontroversial enough for bureaucratship. So, does this mean that you've never been in any real edit wars? Does it mean you've been in several edit wars and have been able to keep level-headed? Or, does it mean you've intentionally avoided edit wars and left them to others to handle? Ryan Norton T 21:09, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * No, I can't recall ever having engaged in an edit war over content. This is certainly not to say I've never been in conflict with another user, but rather that whenever a conflict has arisen, I've always been able to hash it out in discussion. — Dan | Talk 21:13, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answer :). For the followup (and final) question - when determining whether or not a candidate will be promoted to an admin, do you consider any edit war at all negative? Do you think someone who has been in a few wars but has made up with most of the participants is better than who has not? Will this not factor into your decision? Or will you generally go more with the votes of the community instead of using personal judgement? Ryan Norton T 22:05, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If I am the one making the decision, my opinion on the candidate with regard to editing habits is marginally relevant at best. I trust the community to determine whether a candidate is qualified; my discretion only applies to discounting votes whose legitimacy is in question. — Dan | Talk 23:32, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Did the candidate answers disappear from the previous nomination? I'm just curious where they went.  --Alan Au 09:35, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * It became quickly obvious that the nomination would fail, so I never answered the questions. — Dan | Talk 14:08, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

 * 1. Have you read the discussions on when to promote and not promote? What do you understand the criteria for promotion to be?
 * A. The community has decided that 80% is the magic proportion of support votes, and I will abide by this decision, using, as always, a bureaucrat's discretion with regard to sockpuppet or otherwise questionable voters.
 * 2. How would you deal with contentious nominations where a decision to promote or not promote might be criticized?
 * A. I am practiced at enduring criticism and am unafraid to make a decision with which some editors may disagree. My standards for all nominations, contentious or otherwise, are the same.
 * 3. Wikipedians expect Bureaucrats to adhere to high standards of fairness, knowledge of policy and the ability to engage others in the community. Why do you feel you meet those standards?
 * A. I have peacefully resolved all of my disagreements with other users, whether by compromise or persuasion, and have yet to become "wikistressed" by any turn of events. My extensive editing history has required that I read and interpret all manner of policies and guidelines, and I feel that I am levelheaded and uncontroversial enough to serve as an example for the community. — Dan | Talk 06:10, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 4. Bureaucrats have the capability to rename user accounts. Aside from normal conditions where a user specifically requests that their name be modified, do you believe that a community consensus should be required before a bureaucrat makes such a change?
 * If a user with a disruptive name actively resisted a name change, I would request comments and require consensus before changing it. I don't think this will occur very often, however, since such users are normally blocked and given the opportunity to create a new account before they have the chance to make many edits with the old one. — Dan | Talk 21:59, 3 September 2005 (UTC)


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Talk:Universal binary

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This should be merged with Fat binary. The term "universal binary" appears to be an Apple-ism. Dysprosia 06:10, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I disagree; this is to give information on a specific type of fat binary; the terms are not synonyms. Eg the line "Apple's Xcode 2.1 supports the creation of these files" refers only to Intel/PPC Fat Binaries for Mac OSX, it could not for instance create an Intel/Alpha Fat Binary for Windows NT. Therefore I think this page still has relevence. Mr Weeble  Talk Brit tv 12:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Universal Applications?
Do we really need this section? I dont think anyone is interested in maintaining this information or reading it. At best it is just advertizing though I suppose it can be added into a List of Universal Applications. What would be more appropriate for this article is maybe a history of the term, when it was first used, which OSX version first supported this feature, etc. I am removing it but feel free to add it back in if you have a good reason.69.121.109.152 05:52, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I am interested in reading it and I'm sure others are as well. —Tokek 11:13, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to this section I could write material for my University thesis. Removing? Why? --MG55 18:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Please, get rid of this section. XML-RPC Client?  Who cares?  What about Metro, Reason, Mathematica, MySQL, Finale?  There are thousands of Universal binaries available; Intel is the future of the Mac, so pretty much every piece of software that hasn't been discontinued/abandoned should either have a Universal version available or be "in development".  A few more links to Apple's website  would serve readers much better.  — Miles←☎ 07:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Who cares? I thought I already answered that question. I think the original intent may have been to show the progress or lack of progress of softwares switching to Universal. Also, albeit shocking, apparently some people use Wikipedia as a source for writing their thesis. If you don't want to read the section...—Tokek

 * You missed my point: I was asking "who cares" about XML-RPC Client, an obscure application from a minor freeware developer, when hundreds of more-used applications are missing from the table. — Miles←☎ 20:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree with the above remark ; this list should be removed. There is no rationality in the selection and it sorely lacks content. The emptiness of the "development" section makes the two existing entries look like adverts. In comparison, the Apple-maintained page has more than 2500 entries... Orphu of Io 18:38, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Could you provide a direct link to this page of more than 2500 entries? —Tokek 12:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

 * The start page is here :, and the full list can be obtained here : Orphu of Io 12:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Capitalization of Universal in Universal binary: Apple's convention
From looking at Apple's website, it is clear Universal in the sense of a Universal binary (or the Universal version of an application) is supposed to be capitalized. See Apple - Universal - Applications and Intel-based Mac: How to tell if an application is Universal for examples. —204.42.20.215 22:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Shared code?
"If they are compiled and optimized for platforms as different as x86 and PowerPC, what binary code could they be sharing?"

applications do not consist only of compiled code, but generally include a number of non-executable resources such as bitmaps, audio files, text and data files, and in the case of games, huge amounts of texture, map, and model data. the claim you're responding to -- that multi-platform applications will usually share a significant amount of dependent data among platforms -- is completely reasonable. --G0zer 18:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Microsoft's Office 2004 applications often hang or quit under Rosetta
What is the justification for this statement, accounts seem to contradict it. "Our one and only crash during the entire Office testing set was during a find and replace in Word. A quick re-launch, and everything proceeded as expected." http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.22/22.05/Office2004Benchmark/ Removing remark.

Compiler Stuff
It would be good if this page had more information about how stuff is compiled as a Universal Binary and what compilers support it.
 * What do you mean, what compilers support it? I believe it uses gcc to compile both ends, and uses a tool to join the Intel-only and the PowerPC-only code into one binary. As for what languages, XCode only come with C, C++, and Objective-C.  There is a third-party addon for Fortran, but I don't know if it makes Universal Binaries. Madd the sane 05:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Reducing size of univeral binaries
Some applications like Xslimmer can reduce the size of universal binaries by stripping either PPC or Intel code from the binary. Do you think it is relevant to include a section/paragraph/sentence to this article?

Jonathan2007 20:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, a small section would probably be a good idea. Madd the sane 05:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Mach-O
Shouldn't this mention Mach-O since that's technically the executable format that the Universal Binary is in?
 * Yes. You know you can add stuff, right? Madd the sane 05:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * More correctly, universal binaries are NeXT/Apple multi-architecture binaries, which are an archive format that contains multiple Mach-O binaries. A multi-architecture binary begins with a header structure containing a magic number indicating that the file is a multi-architecture binary and a count of the number of architectures in the binary, followed by an array of per-architecture structures giving the CPU subtype for the binary or an "all CPU subtypes for this instruction set" value, the offset in the file and size of the Mach-O binary for that subtype, and the alignment requirement for that Mach-O binary, followed by the archived Mach-O binaries.  So it's not itself a Mach-O file, it's a collection of Mach-O binaries in a single file.
 * The article's lede, and its History section, link to, which describes the original use of multi-architecture binaries in NeXTSTEP. That format carried over into macOS (and iOS and other OSes that, like macOS, have a Darwin base). Guy Harris (talk) 06:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Help with logo
I've created an SVG version of the universal binary logo (the cool yin-yang kind of thing shown here: http://www.apple.com/universal/.) ... but I'm not into the whole licensing thing with copyrights and such.

In fact, I barely knew how to post to this discussion board. Ha ha. All I know is that SVG is pretty much everywhere on Wikipedia, and I was bored one day so I made it using Inkscape.

So if anyone's interested in work with me on that, just post a reply or something, I'll check this discussion board every week or so.

Thanks for your help guys/girls. 66.130.16.181 (talk) 04:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

2010
It's 2010, aren't people dropping PPC now? I added the update tag because of this. Gigs (talk) 05:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Mozilla, for one, "switched from a ppc/i386 universal binary to an i386/x86_64 universal binary" in Firefox 4. I couldn't find official documentation from Apple that this new type of fat binary can also be called Universal, but some people call it that. --asqueella (talk) 13:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Universal
Mac And Windows And Universal Mkennedy00abc (talk) 04:26, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

 * And your point is? Guy Harris (talk) 05:57, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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Why the lipo command?
ditto is another command that is able to thin Universal Binaries, and included with MacOS/Mac OS X. Why is lipo the main command, when you need to install it separately? 24.22.108.174 (talk) 04:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * According to the NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FAQ, lipo dates back to NeXTSTEP when they added Multi-Architecture Binaries (Darwin fat binaries are the same as NeXTSTEP Multi-Architecture Binaries, both built out of multiple Mach-O binaries).
 * ditto is in the BomCmds project (according to the results of what run on its executable image); that doesn't appear to be an open-source project, so I can't find its source, but the "Bom" probably refers to bills of material. At least according to the bom(5) man page, the bill of materials format dates back to NeXTSTEP, so ditto may date back to NeXTSTEP as well.  I also don't know whether thinning fat binaries was something that ditto supported from Day One, but it's probably something lipo supported from Day One.
 * lipo is a general tool for manipulating fat binaries; I don't know whether it originally just thinned them out, but it currently supports a lot more than than, including making a fat binary from multiple non-fat binaries. ditto does not support more than thinning, and that may only have been done as a convenience for copying a tree and thinning it out in one command.
 * What the article says is:
 * "The main tool for handling (creating or splitting) universal binaries is the lipo command found in Xcode."

 * which is true - you can't use ditto to create a universal binary, and to extract all the executable types from a single universal binary into separate files, it might be more convenient to run lipo multiple times than to run ditto multiple times.
 * So, for many purposes, lipo, rather than ditto, is the primary tool because 1) some purposes aren't supported by ditto and 2) other purposes are more conveniently served by lipo. Guy Harris (talk) 09:28, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

article sounds like a methode used in history
Hi,

as the article is written it sounds like it is something that was used way in the past as apple switched from ppc to x86 based architectures, but it is the same principle used now where arm and x86 based system with apple-software are used at the same time. Here an example output of the file tool of such a binary...

89.246.192.145 (talk) 17:41, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The first paragraph of the article mentions ARM64, and there's a "Universal 2" section. What parts imply this is only for PPC/x86 binaries? Guy Harris (talk) 21:56, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Winning percentage

Vote for Deletion
This article survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 06:11, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Problems
We are told that: Winning percentage = Wins / Total Games Conceptually, that's okay, but for computational purposes, it should be stated: Winning percentage = Wins / (Wins + Losses) This is necessary if you want to state that: "Ties count as a game and should be calculated as neither a loss nor a tie." Obviously, ties do not count as a game in the original equation. To avoid confusion, either change the formula, or state that ties are entirely disregarded and that total Games is the sum of Wins and Losses.

I doubt that winning percentage has any relevance in hockey any longer. How can one determine "possible points," when a game can provide two or three points depending upon whether an Overtime Loss is involved? (To award a point for Overtime Losses or Regulation Ties is an idiotic concept as implemented, as it violates zero-sum gamesmanship and permits teams to manufacture points out of thin air.) WHPratt (talk) 14:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

The NFL used to throw out ties in computing winning percentage, so that a 10-0-1 team (10-0 with one tie) rang in at 1.000. Sometime in the 1970s, they changed the rule to count ties as half a win and half a loss. This should be mentioned somewhere in this article.WHPratt (talk) 12:33, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Someone should format those values to remove the leading zero, as it's never used in practice. E.g., .500, not 0.500. WHPratt (talk) 17:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem
I don't understand how it is suggested that wins/total games fails to account for ties. A win percentage is answering the question, what is the rate of "winning", not what is the rate of "not losing." So, after 20 games, a team has 15 wins, four losses and a tie, or is 15-4-1. In answering the question, what was the team's rate of winning, the answer is 15 wins / 20 games played = 75% or .750. The tie is not a win...

I do understand that a tie is not a loss, either. So, in comparing two teams that have a .750 win percentage, but one team is 15-4-1 and the other team is 15-5-0, we should want to see the team with only 4 losses rated higher than the team with 5 losses. That's fine, but now we're no longer talking about "WIN" percentage since .750 is an accurate reflection of the win rate of both teams, who both had the same 15 wins.

At the end of the day, ties are stupid and should be eliminated. It's not difficult - there are no ties in the playoffs, and it's not mysterious - teams just play until a winner emerges. In fact, baseball has eliminated ties in the regular season, too; again, just play until someone finally wins. The great thing about that is it creates a playoff-like atmosphere for a team during the regular season, and that's especially a nice feeling for fans of teams with no chance of seeing the actual playoffs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.53.233.27 (talk) 21:19, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

"I don't understand how it is suggested that wins/total games fails to account for ties. A win percentage is answering the question, what is the rate of "winning", not what is the rate of "not losing." So, after 20 games, a team has 15 wins, four losses and a tie, or is 15-4-1. In answering the question, what was the team's rate of winning, the answer is 15 wins / 20 games played = 75% or .750. The tie is not a win..." I see a philosophical argument here that could possibly be defended, but practically, "winning percentage" has always been expressed as [wins / decisions], with ties either ignored or else distributed. The tie is not a win, but is also is not a loss, though it is effectively a loss in your example calculation. WHPratt (talk) 16:12, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

percentage
This article is called "winning percentage", but actually defines the winning fraction, not the percentage. A percentage is prorated over 100.

 * For example, if a team's season record is 30 wins and 20 losses, the winning percentage would be .600.

No, that team's winning percentage would be 60. TypoBoy (talk) 17:53, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It's a standard term. Wikipedia is not here to redefine terms based on a personal reading of mathematics, but to state what is. oknazevad (talk) 22:18, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

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White Hair

White Hair (Pawhuska) is the English name of several Osage leaders in the eighteenth and nineteenth century. A tintype image of White Hair can be seen at the Osage Nation Museum in Pawhuska, Oklahoma.

White Hair I
The first White Hair, Paw-Hiu-Skah, Pahuska, or Pawhuska, was born about 1763 and died about 1809. The town of Pawhuska, Oklahoma is named for him. He was the chief of the Thorny-Valley people, a division of the Osage people. In 1791, Pawhuska is reputed to have fought against American troops under Arthur St. Clair in Ohio. During the battle, the worst defeat ever suffered by U.S. forces against Indians, Pawhuska attempted to scalp a fallen officer but the man's powdered wig came off in Pawhuska's hand. In the ensuing confusion, the officer escaped. The chief was impressed by how the wig protected its original wearer, so he kept it for the rest of his life and became known as White Hair.

In the late eighteenth century the Osage were a powerful tribe on the Western prairies with an empire that reached south from the Missouri River to the Red River. Pawhuska was the most prominent chief and had the closest relationships with French traders, especially the Chouteau family which operated under the rule of the Spanish government. The Osage frequently had skirmishes and battles with the Spanish and other Indian tribes. However, internal dissension weakened the Osage and they split into three main groups. In 1796, the group headed by Clermont (Claremore) and Pawhuska settled near Jean Pierre Chouteau's trading post on the Verdigris River in Indian Territory

In 1800, the Marqués de Casa Calvo, newly appointed governor of Louisiana accused Osages of stealing from and murdering non-Natives and encouraged Pawhuska and his band of Osages to fight the rest of the Osages. Pawhuska refused.

One of Pawhuska's daughters married Kaw chief White Plume and thus established a lasting peace between the Osage and Kaw. White Plume's great-grandson was Charles Curtis, vice president of the United States, and many present-day Kaw Indians can trace their ancestry back to White Plume and Pawhuska.

White Hair II through VI
The lineage of Pawhuska continued with his son, White Hair II, but he apparently was an ineffective chief and he was soon replaced by White Hair III, who moved most of the remaining members of the Osage tribe to the Neosho River in Oklahoma in 1822. The Osage subsequently were forced by White and Indian encroachment on their lands to move back to a small reservation in Kansas. White Hair IV (George White Hair) became chief in 1832 and served until his death in 1852, age 48. His cousin Iron Hawk became White Hair V until his death in 1861, also 48 years old. Little White Hair became the last hereditary White Hair Chief, serving until his death on December 24, 1869. White Hair VI was one of the signers of the 1865 treaty that ceded most Osage lands in Kansas to the United States and set the stage for their removal to a reservation (contiguous with Osage County) in Oklahoma in 1871. By this time the powerful Osage of the eighteenth and early nineteenth century were a beleaguered people, but in one sense they had the last laugh. They sold their old lands for a good price and huge pools of petroleum were found on their new lands in Oklahoma.

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Yenimahalle

Yenimahalle is a municipality and metropolitan district of Ankara Province, Turkey. Its area is 219 km2, and its population is 704,652 (2022). It is a fast-growing urban residential district of the city of Ankara, Turkey's capital. Its elevation is 861 m.

Yenimahalle today

The name Yenimahalle means the new quarter and in the late 1940s the area of open land to the west of the city was allocated for civil servants and workers housing. This grew with the construction of the E5 highway through the area and even more when the metro was built. Today the district mainly consists of large estates of apartment buildings and although the area is being filled up with concrete buildings there is still green space, tennis courts and other sports areas. There is some illegal building at the edge of the district but Yenimahalle is mainly planned development. This is the home for both of Ankara's teams: Gençlerbirliği and Ankaragücü, although their shared stadium is in Altındağ.

82% of the working population are civil servants or workers in the city of Ankara. There is also a large retired community, and a small but growing number of traders and shopkeepers. Ankara's largest industrial area, OSTIM Industrial Zone, is on the edge of the district too. The rural areas are used mainly for growing grains and pulses.

The headquarters of the national intelligence service Millî İstihbarat Teşkilâtı is in Yenimahalle.

Composition
There are 55 neighbourhoods in Yenimahalle District:

 * 25 Mart
 * Anadolu
 * Aşağı Yahyalar
 * Ata
 * Avcılar
 * Barış
 * Barıştepe
 * Batı Sitesi
 * Beştepe
 * Burç
 * Çamlıca
 * Çarşı
 * Çiğdemtepe
 * Demet
 * Demetgül
 * Demetlale
 * Emniyet
 * Ergazi
 * Ergenekon
 * Esentepe
 * Gayret
 * Gazi
 * Güventepe
 * Güzelyaka
 * İlkyerleşim
 * İnönü
 * Işınlar
 * İvedikköy
 * Kaletepe
 * Karacakaya
 * Kardelen
 * Karşıyaka
 * Kayalar
 * Kentkoop
 * Kuzey Yıldızı
 * Macun
 * Mehmet Akif Ersoy
 * Memlik
 * Ostim
 * Özevler
 * Pamuklar
 * Ragıp Tüzün
 * Serhat
 * Susuz
 * Tepealtı
 * Turgut Özal
 * Uğur Mumcu
 * Varlık
 * Yakacık
 * Yenibatı
 * Yeniçağ
 * Yeşilevler
 * Yukarı Yahyalar
 * Yunus Emre
 * Yuva

Places of interest

 * Akköprü, a bridge over the Ankara River, built by the Seljuk Turks in 1222, on the old trade route to Baghdad.
 * Atatürk Forest Farm and Zoo, park and farm, financed by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (1881-1938) personally to provide a place of recreation and agriculture in the city. It contains the Ankara Zoo and a full-size replica of the house in Salonica (today in Greece), where Atatürk was born.
 * Ankara 75th Anniversary Race Course, horse racetrack

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/White Feather

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. Paul August ☎ 03:12, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

White Feather
No documentation/No mention on Google. Paul Klenk 06:18, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The Chief name by itself gets only 3 Google hits; add the words white and feather (not even in quotes) and there are zero hits.  Paul Klenk

 * Delete or improve, the only hits bring up someone on the tribal council who was descended form Pawhuska. And his name means white hair not white feather so the name isnt correct in the first place. Jobe  6  08:53, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and Move to Pawhuska.He has his own memorial here. shows Thishe is some what notable. Jobe  6  09:00, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * He met with Thomas Jefferson!!! Jobe  6  09:01, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. Google seems to show that this chief is notable. (I don't think google counts should be a test for historical figures.) Sdedeo 19:22, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unless this article can be expanded and references provided. At this point it's not even a good stub.  -PlainSight 20:19, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, expand and move to Pawhuska. The town of Pawhuska is named after him. Capitalistroadster 00:23, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. -Sean Curtin 01:15, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.