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Talk:Homopolar generator

A crank is inserting links to his relativity denial website by hiding them as 'external references'
Self-promotion is against wiki policy, and since it seemed bad form to have two separate link sections I removed them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.80.170.103 (talk) 01:22, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Comments for the explanation table
I think the explanation table is somewhat misleading, when it terms, that it if both disk and indicator are moving the result is undetermined. It is surely not undetermined. Like some strange explanation also tries to say: ''The voltage is "undetermined" when both the indicator and the disk are rotated, regardless of whether the magnet is moving. There is an EMF and a nonuniform charge density, but no reaction of the indicator.[3] An electric field is generated, but no voltage is brought out for display. This differs from the different relative motions of the parts of a rectilinear homopolar generator (where the answer would be "No").'' I think this is explanation is unnecessarily complex. Simply stated: If the magnet rotates or not doesn't make any difference. If both indicator and disk rotate only the relative difference in rotation is relevant for the voltage seen on the indicator, which means if both rotate at the same speed the indicator doesn't see any voltage. The reason for this is simple, if both rotate at the same speed, then also the wires of the indicator circuit will develop the same voltage as the disk itself (the wire behaves the same as a second disk), therefore the indicator wouldn't see any voltage difference. Peace 83.77.199.33 (talk) 19:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Current direction?
Nearly all cases of which wiki talks about electromagnets, could we add the direction of which the current flows? Seb-Gibbs (talk) 20:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

The generator is AC not DC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.229.79.241 (talk) 22:33, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

That is incorrect, it IS a DC offset potential ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.228.198 (talk) 11:18, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

How it works
Paragraph from the bottom of the page: "The correct interpretation of the velocity of the electron is that it is relative to the static parts of the machine, which are the sliding contacts and the circuit to which they are connected. In the language of special relativity, these objects act as the 'observer'. It is the velocity of the electron relative to these components that causes it to experience the Lorentz force." How can this be true, since the results of moving the whole machine conflicts with this statement. Seb-Gibbs (talk) 20:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Earliest Patent?
Is it certain that the earliest patent referenced (US238631) is really a homopolar generator? I'm certainly no expert, but it looks like an induction dynamo to me. See: US238631 at Google Patents 70.60.39.47 (talk) 23:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

You're correct, it is not a homopolar generator. Tkircher (talk) 01:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Misguided: How magnetism makes current
Since Lorentz Force Law and not traditional induction is governing the generation of current in the Homopolar Generator isn't the section "How magnetism makes current" somewhat misplaced? --Enghoff 04:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

bullshit
Any reason we can't remove the bit about self-excited generators, aka perpetual motion machines, since we don't have a meaningful reference and aren't going to get one? Or should we link perpetual motion machines and bullshit to this page? Or is this some weird bit of gay humor? Here's a reference: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060817/sc_nm/technology_energy_dc_1

 * No reason. I deleted them for you. However, I think that Wikipedia policy would allow factual references to real, if futile or fraudulent, attempts to create perpetual motion machines. For example, it's OK to say 'Company X is trying to market a perpetual motion machine based on the HPG', as long as we make it clear that it is a perpetual motion machine and therefore only a fairy story. --Heron 09:58, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Never say never. Perhaps there is something we do not understand about the universe and its physics. It is assumed that we are know everything and all of our theories are absolutely correct and complete. However, this may not be quite the case. For instance, no one it seems understands just what a magnetic feild is. We dont have a unified field theory. We dont really understand where any of this comes from (although some religious types have a claim to this). Some scientists perhaps do seem to see their science is a religion, and for who many things are simply a matter of faith. Some do not contemplate for a second that maybe some of our theories are workable in certian situations, but they may be insufficient in giving a truly complete and accurate picture of the universe and how it all works. Even though present theories might explain things with sufficiency for some applications does not mean they are totally complete. Scientists it seems are so trapped in the box they have been put in that they are unwilling to challenge, retest and revisit things, think beyond the theories already established, and be able to accept the possibility that some theories are not entirely complete if some evidence was found to show that all things are not as they seem. Many rely simply on faith that the current theories are complete and defend them religiously. I for one, hope that there is a way to have a perpetual motion machine. It is the only way this civilisation will be able to survive. What are we going to do when all of the oil runs out? Not only oil, but what happens when we run out of copper? It would also be better for the planet too, so we no longer have to use up all of her resources. I am not saying either that I have seen enough proof of free energy. But I am open minded about it. We barely understand anything at all, there is so much we dont know. If I went back 400 years and told people we could send pictures and sound through the air, they would have laughed and said thats impossible. People once thought people who thought the world was round were nuts. If no one ever questioned the status quo, we would have never known differently. Perhaps, one day we will laugh at the idea that once people thought perpetual motion was insane.

Millueradfa 13:58, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I've never heard of a scientist who 'assume[s] that we are know everything and all of our theories are absolutely correct and complete'. Anyway, that's not the point. Wikipedia is here to describe the world as it exists, not as some people dream that it might be in the future. By all means dream, and good luck to you, but please don't write it in Wikipedia until it is proven. --Heron 17:44, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Because this device is not readily understood by beginning Physics students it lends itself to misunderstanding, and claims that it operates in some 'special' new way, thus feeding the free energy rumor mill. A paragraph about how it forms the core of several (purported) free energy/perpetual motion machines would not be amiss in alleviating some of this confusion. I bet half the people reading this article got here from a fringe alternative energy website.

 * I do get tired of people saying things don't work because they violate laws of physics instead of just saying that, "to date, no rigorous scientific testing has ever shown one of these machines to produce anti-gravity or over unity energy." Claiming no one has ever made a working device is a fact, claiming that it will not work because it violates a law of physics is a belief. Now if you will excuse, I'm going to go play with my Bessler Wheel, and my SMOT, which I will get working any day now. :P

 * Tiki God 02:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

research
Umm...a compulsator is a specialized type of alternator. It is not either a Faraday disk nor a drum HPG. I have built and used both. I can also tell you that without relative motion between the armature and the field, you get no voltage in an HPG. This article needs to researched more rigorously

 * Your first point is correct, so I fixed the article. Your second point is not correct.  Relative motion between the circuit and the field is irrelevant, since the field is uniform.  What counts is relative motion of the rotor and stator, within the uniform field.  --Heron 20:10, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Gaypolar
Why is there still/again a Gaypolar generator page (even if it is a redirect)? --Art Carlson 15:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Dubious material
This is highly dubious ". However, there are no records of the performance of [Tesla's] machine, nor of anybody else having tried to build one". A citation is needed, or the sentence needs to be revised or removed. 204.56.7.1

 * removed the above sentence, till a citation is provided. 134.193.168.244 16:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

 * That was me, and I admit that I can't provide a citation, since it was just a statement of my own inability to find any evidence that one was ever built. I was hoping that someone would find an example of one and prove me wrong! While we're on the subject, does anybody know what a "Forbes dynamo", mentioned in the article, is or was, please? --Heron 17:15, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

 * G. Forbes, "U.S. Patent 338169 Dynamo electric machine". That'[s his patent. 134.193.168.244 17:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I also just read from Valone's article that you can find info on the Forbes dynamo in an article in the Journal of the IEEE by Robert Belfield (Sept, 1976; pg., 344). 134.193.168.244 17:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I must go and check those out. --Heron 19:39, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Move?
Could someone make a List of homopolar generator patents and move the list there? 204.56.7.1 19:40, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Referenced material
The following was removed ....
 * The Faraday homopolar generator has been claimed to be a case of Sir William Thomson's "current accumulator" and provide a basis for "free energy''".((ref|telsa01))((ref|Kincheloe)) The current, once started, may be sufficient to maintain itself and even increase in strength and the device would be operated as a self-excited generator. Under certain conditions the process of obtaining the electrical output energy is not manifested as a accompanying load to the driving source. The back electromotive forces that occurs in this generator where there is relative motion between the armature of the motor and the external magnetic field in devices heretofore recognized by the scientific community prevent this, though.

 * note|telsa00 Nikola Tesla, "Notes on a Unipolar Dynamo". The Electrical Engineer, N.Y., Sept. 2, 1891. (Also available at tesla.hu, Article 18910902)
 * note|Kincheloe Robert Kincheloe, "Homopolar "Free-Energy" Generator Test". Society for Scientific Exploration; San Francisco, June 21, 1986. [Revised: February 1, 1987]

Heron 's coments @ Description and operation : rm free energy rubbish; Thomson's accumulator was a lead-acid battery, and the 'free energy' citation is from DePalma, who is wrong

Depalma and others are wrong because of the back electromotive forces that is not accounted for or misrecorded. The citation is not from Depalma, but Robert Kincheloe [Professor of Electrical Engineering (Emeritus), Stanford University]. As to Thomson's "accumulator", it was not his "battery" but part of his reaserch into magnetodynamic generators. 134.193.168.236 20:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Thank you, '236. I hope you weren't offended by my "rubbish" comment.  I was criticising the sources that you were citing, not your own words.  It seemed to me that the source of the "not manifested as a load" statement was De Palma, as paraphrased by Kincheloe, but perhaps I misunderstood.  This is where Kincheloe says:
 * The term "free-energy" refers to the claim by DePalma [1] (and others [2]) that it was capable of producing electrical output power that was not reflected as a mechanical load to the driving mechanism but derived from presumed latent spatial energy.
 * As for Thomson, the only substantial record of an accumulator that I can find is of the Faure accumulator, which was a battery of some kind. The term "current accumulator" appears only in a passing comment by Tesla, with no explanation. I need to find out more about this.
 * --Heron 21:49, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Other Names for Homopolar Generator
Other names for HPG.

 * Faraday disk
 * HPG

Should they be added and if so where? DeleteThis 02:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Added redirect from acyclic generator to here
Since the page did not exist, but unipolar generator and disk dynamo I added Acyclic Genertor and redirected it to this page. DeleteThis 02:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Definitions of Alternators and Dynamos
From Dictionary.com

Alternator - An electric generator that produces alternating current.

Dynamo - A generator, especially one for producing direct current.

DeleteThis 02:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Structure of article
Current structure of article...

1 History and development 2 Description and operation 2.1 How magnetism makes current 2.2 Disk type generator 2.3 Drum type generator 3 Physics 4 See also 5 References and further reading 6 External links and other articles

Does this make sense.

How would the other pieces be added into this one.

DeleteThis 11:09, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Any reference to how Sir Oliphant designed the 500MJ homopolar generator? and any data on its efficiency 1%? 10%? We need to show why it is worse for homopolar generators than alternators.

 * 500MJ is around 140 kWh and that would translate to about 187hp/hr. One gallon of Gasoline contains ~121 MJ. This is around 4 gallons of gas. DeleteThis 04:49, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

DeleteThis 04:54, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Low speed flywheels, with typical operating speeds up to 6000 rev/min, have steel rotors and conventional bearings. For example, a flywheel system with steel rotor developed in a collaborative project at CCLRC in the 1980’s had energy storage capacity 2.3 kWh @ 5000 rev/min, and rated power 45kW. (rotor specific energy 5 Wh/kg, specific power 100 W/kg). ref

Indicator?
Am I correct to assume that the term "indicator" in the table is a meter used to measure the voltage generated across the disk? This is not 100% clear to me. --Jakohn 21:08, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree, the term "indicator" needs to be explained. I can't believe that moving the meter/sink would generate any current so anyone who understands what is meant by "indicator" kindly elaborate. --User:Enghoff 09:58, 14 September 2007 (IST)

Trying to understand this
I apologise if these questions seem absurd, but I am a layperson trying to understand this.

I am trying to understand the homopolar generator, to visualise it. I think it consists of an axis, with a metal disk and a magnet attached to it? Does both the magnet and the disk rotate together, or just the one and the other remain stationary? I think I heard the magnet can either be stationary or move with the metal disk. However, strangely, if the magnet is moving but the metal disk is stationary you will get no voltage. I also guess the leads, which could connect to say a lightbulb, one lead would connect to the centre of the metal disk, and another to its edge? I think since the disk rotated, metal brushes are used to connect the wire to the moving piece. And what about this homopolar field. I thought magnets always had two polarities. How can a magnetic field have the same polarity everywhere?

Millueradfa 13:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Your question is quite reasonable, given that the article doesn't have a clear diagram. The disc rotates like a wheel on an axle. As you said, there are brushes to make the connections. The magnet is roughly C-shaped and is placed with the north pole on one side of the disc and the south pole on the other, so that the magnetic field lines are perpendicular to the disc and pass through it. Ideally, each pole covers the entire surface of the disc. 'Homopolar field' means that the magnetic field is uniform over the disc's area. There are of course two magnetic poles, one on each side of the disc. --Heron 13:34, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your response, it helped me understand it better quite a bit.

 * I do have another question. Does anyone know what would happen if the direction in which the device is spinning where to be reversed every so often? Perhaps, for instance, if the direction could be reversed every 90 degrees, or every 360 degrees, a permenant wire connection could be made to the device, with flexible pieces of wire. What would be the effects of this?

Millueradfa 17:59, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

megajoules?
"It produced 500 megajoules"

 * What, over the course of its lifetime? More context needed. — Omegatron 19:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Media reporters and even amateur science people keep confusing POWER with ENERGY, eg: Kilowatts and Kilowatt Hours. (A joule is a watt-second.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjcscott (talk • contribs) 16:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Uncertain torque reaction?
The article says "There is an uncertain nature of the torque reaction in homopolar machines". What is uncertain about it? Equal and opposite forces occur on the two parts of the electrical circuit, the stator and rotor, and no force occurs on the magnet (unless it happens to be conductive and forms part of the electrical circuit). See "Sources of confusion" in homopolar motor. -- D.keenan 15:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Removed references
User:JzG removed these applicable references:

 * Mike Galloway, "N-1 Homopolar Generator".
 * Bruce E. DePalma, "The Trombly-Kahn Homopolar Generator; Critique of the N-Machine Constructed by Trombly & Kahn". 11 October 1985.
 * Bruce E. DePalma, "A review of: "The Homopolar Handbook", by Thomas Valone". 2 February 1995.
 * "The Faraday Disk Dynamo as the original over-unity device". Archer Energy Systems, Inc., 2006

J. D. Redding 21:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Paranormal

 * Bruce DePalma and other assorted mad scientists. J. D. Redding

Bruce DePalma
Bruce DePalma (born Bruno James DePalma) (October 2, 1935–1997), son of noted orthopaedic surgeon Anthony DePalma and elder brother of film director Brian De Palma, was a well known figure in the Free energy suppression community.

De Palma claimed that his N-machine Homopolar generator, a device based on the Faraday disc, could produce five times the energy required to run it. According to mainstream physics, no such device is physically possible. De Palma studied electrical engineering at Harvard (1958) and taught physics at MIT for 15 years, working under Harold Eugene Edgerton. He was also employed by Edwin H. Land of Polaroid fame.

Bruce De Palma's development of the N-machine concept in 1977, among his other anomalous devices (at least one of which, De Palma claimed, displayed anti-gravity characteristics) and the claims surrounding them, set him on a collision course with his more mainstream peers. His claims of "free energy" were vigorously refuted over the course of twenty years, by conventional scientists and some members of the alternative energy community alike.

His search for financial backing for the construction of a marketable N-machine saw him relocate from Santa Barbara, California to Australia c. 1994, and then New Zealand in 1996. Probably his greatest ally in his conviction that the N-machine could solve the world's energy and environmental crisis was Paramahamsa Tewari, a Project Director with the Indian Nuclear Power Corporation, with whom he corresponded regularly over many years. Tewari's Space Power Generator, claimed to be 200% efficient, is based on the same theoretical foundations as the N-machine.

De Palma's death in New Zealand in October 1997 put an end to his most ambitious free energy project, and occurred only weeks prior to the official testing of a device constructed over the course of 6 months in an Auckland workshop. The test was attended by, among others, the project's financial backer, Bruce Bornholdt, a prominent Wellington barrister, as well as the pioneering developer of the Adams motor, Robert Adams (now deceased), who observed the operation of, and measured electrical output from, the N-machine. This single test failed to demonstrate the over-unity potential of the N-machine - most of the output energy being lost as heat - and the project was immediately dissolved.

 * Homopolar generator
 * Perpetual motion
 * History of perpetual motion machines
 * Steorn

 * THE HOME OF PRIMORDIAL ENERGY, De Palma's website with numerous articles.
 * Free Energy - The N-Machine

J. D. Redding 22:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

You note that DePalma studied at Harvard and taught physics at MIT. Did he graduate from either of these institutions? 104.172.216.137 (talk) 18:40, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Editorial comments by 97.100.194.145
''Please check statement about flux being a vector above. Magnetic flux is a scalar quantity ($$ \int \vec{B} \cdot d\vec{A}$$), not a vector. Moreover, the Lorentz force law, mentioned below, is derived using Faraday's Law of electromagnetic induction.''

In all honesty this section needs to be reviewed.

(Copied from article. --Art Carlson (talk) 17:17, 23 January 2008 (UTC))

Problems with the Homopolar Generator section
I recently realized that I do not truly understand how a Faraday disc (I use this spelling on purpose). I am getting on in years so I apologize that my mind may not be working as well Isould lie it to. I find problems with the entry on the Homopolar generator. The entire introductory paragraph is confusing and ambiguous. It really should be rewritten.

The disk does not have to be magnetic. It does not even have to bn conductive unless significant output is required.

The fundamental description arises out of the special theory of relativity (SR). In SR, the fundamental field is a tensor that combines the electric and magnetic vector fields we all know and love into one tensor field usually represented by an antisymmetric 4 x 4 matrix. See the Wikipedia entry for Special relativity.

Given the tensor field (in laboratory coordinates), local motion transforms the tensor to produce an electric field locally at a moving point from the magnetic field present in the laboratory coordinates. Surprise, surprise; this is just the Lorentz force law. I do not yet understand how that fits in with the definition of electric field F = q E. Does magnetic force F = q v x B arise from F = q E merely  by requiring invariance of the field tensor under a Lorentz transformation?

The electric field produced by motion does not require conductivity. In principle, that electric field should be observable by means of the Stark effect or various electrooptical effects.

More later.

PEBill (talk) 04:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

"and a vertical-axis generator could allow the entire rim of a disk to be "brushed" by liquid metal"

I think this should say horizontal axis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.88.177.137 (talk) 04:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

No, he has it correct... Vertical shaft, means disc's flat to earth, and gravity's influence. Unless you know of some different kind of liquid metal than we do, lol... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.228.198 (talk) 15:14, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

How it works
Parts of the explanation of how it works, described in the Physics section, seem confusing to me. In particular, I find misleading the paragraph starting with "There is a subtle difficulty in this explanation". In my opinion, there is no problem with the Lorentz force explanation. If one raises the question, how can this be reconciled with special relativity, this is what I think. In a moving frame, the electric and magnetic forces get transformed (the transformation laws are described by the electromagnetic tensor). What appears as a homogeneous magnetic field and no electric field in the reference frame of the stationary machine, appears as a combination of an electric and a magnetic field in the reference frame of an electron moving with the rotating disk. In the reference frame of the electron, the electron responds to this electric field. Mateat (talk) 22:04, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Liquid metal brushes and rotation axis orientation
From the section above, Talk:Homopolar_generator, we had an objection from an unregistered editor: "and a vertical-axis generator could allow the entire rim of a disk to be "brushed" by liquid metal"

I think this should say horizontal axis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.88.177.137 (talk) 04:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Based on this, changed the word to horizontal. This seems to assume that the author intended a pool of liquid metal at the lowest point of a rotor, and that by "the entire rim" was meant "the entire width of the rim". I find this assumption premature. One can conceive a rotor with a vertical axis, disposed in a horizontal plane, with a annular tank of liquid metal under its rim, in which the metal would contact the rotor along the entire circumference. With suitable seals, this tank could be extended to enclosure the rim and seal against the top and bottom of the rotor, thus unambiguously producing the result as claimed, that the entire rim of the disk is contacted by liquid metal. This configuration does not necessarily require that the axis be vertical, though it does relax the mechanical requirements of the seals, as the pressure at the bottom of a tank disposed in a vertical plane would necessarily be greater than that for one disposed in a horizontal plane. Further, the ANU generator, with a vertical axis, used liquid metal brushes in its original configuration. The metal was shot in jets against the rotor, and collected underneath. See Fire in the Belly, Chapter 3: The Big Machine. Such jets could be arrayed densely enough around the rotor that the liquid metal again, contacts the entire rim. I posit that the result of contacting the entire rim of a homopolar generator with liquid metal in a usable configuration does not depend on the orientation of the rotation axis. Thus, the phrase in quotes above is superfluous and should be removed. Cstaffa (talk) 03:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and changed it because of your suggestion, and I think the article is better for it. You're welcome to change other things if the mood strikes you, of course, that's part of the nature of the thing. Tkircher (talk) 06:26, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Sadly, I just commented on this above, before scrolling down to see an expanded discussion of this niggle.

As I read this, I saw another oversight though...

There is talks of "Seals", where creativity would render them needless.

If the disc/disk was fashioned with an "L" edge, with said "L" facing down, into a trough of liquid metal instead. Only an inner baffle for splash, and an outer "C" casing would be needed. No seal... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.228.198 (talk) 15:26, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Patents
The United States Patent Office uses the clasification class 310 (Electrical generator or motor structure) and subclass 178 (Dynamoelectric; Rotary; D.C.; Homopolar) for these devices. Many of the homopolar patents were obtained prior to 1975. Below is a list of homopolar generator patents.

American

 * G. D. Hathaway, ", Direct current homopolar machine".
 * W. F. Weldon, " Homopolar machine ".
 * Antonios Challita, " Electrical machine".
 * W. F. Weldon, ", Method of constructing a rotor assembly for homopolar generator".
 * W. F. Weldon, " Rotor assembly for homopolar generator".
 * W. F. Weldon, " Homopolar generator power supply system".
 * W. F. Weldon, " Removable brush mechanism for a homopolar generator ".
 * Esko Ensio hubta-Koivisto, " Electric unipolar motor".
 * E. C. Ketchum and D. H. Andrews, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * A. Kingsbury, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * W. A. Dick, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * H. Hertz, " Unipolar exciter for turbo-generators".
 * D. W. Troy, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * A. S. Hubbard, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * B. Von Ugrimoff, " Cooling device for electrical sliding contacts".
 * E. C. Ketchum, " Brush holders for dynamos".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Armature for unipolar machines".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Unipolar dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Acyclic machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Protective device for unipolar machine".
 * A. C. Eastwood, " System of control for electric motors".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * W. Mathiesen, " Unipolar dynamo".
 * E. Thomson, " Unipolar generator".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * C. Macmillan, " Power transmission mechanism".
 * C. Macmillan, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Unipolar alternating current machine".
 * E. C. Ketchum, " Dynamo".
 * H. H. Wait, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Unipolar machine".
 * C. P. Steinmetz, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Noeggerath, " Electric motor".
 * E. R. Cox, Jr., " Dynamo electric machine or motor".
 * B. Bjarnason, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * F. W. Throop, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * G. Dalen and A Hultovist, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * F. G. Mayer, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * E. Thomson and M. J. Wightman, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * G. Rennerfelt, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * H. E. Dikeman, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. E. Maynadier, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * T. L. Willson, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * N. Tesla, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * J. B. Entz, " ''Dynamo electric machine".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " Unipolar dynamo electric machine".
 * E. A. Sperry, " ''Dynamo electric machine".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " ''Electro magnetic and megneto electric machine".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " Device for taking electric currents from or to moving surfaces".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " Magneto electric and electro magnetic machine".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " Magneto electric and electro magnetic machine".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " Magneto electric and electro magnetic machine".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " Dynamo electric and electro magnetic machine".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " Dynamo electric and electro magnetic machine".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " Dynamo electric and electro magnetic machine".
 * R. Eickemeyer, " ''Magneto electric and electro magnetic machine".
 * S. Z. De Ferranti, " Unipolar dynamo electric machine".
 * C. Batchelor and H. E. Walter" Dynamo electric machine".
 * C. Hering, " Unipolar dynamo electric machine".
 * G. Forbes, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * A. E. G. Lubke, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * A. F. Delafield, " Dynamo electric machine".
 * C. E. Ball, " Dynamo or magneto-electric machine".

--J. D. Redding 17:04, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

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Births

 * April 9 – Francesco Trevisani, Italian painter of frescoes (died 1746)
 * April 25 – Giovanni Antonio Burrini, Bolognese painter in late-Baroque or Rococo style (died 1727)
 * July 15 – Massimiliano Soldani Benzi, Italian sculptor and medallist (died 1740)
 * August 18 – Ferdinando Galli Bibiena, Italian architect, designer, painter and author (died 1743)
 * October 10 – Nicolas de Largillière, French painter (died 1746)
 * November – Jacob de Heusch, Dutch painter (died 1701)
 * December 11 – Johann Michael Rottmayr, Austrian painter (died 1730)
 * date unknown
 * Pierre Aveline, French engraver, print-publisher and print-seller (died 1722)
 * François Barois, French sculptor (died 1726)
 * Simone Brentana, Italian painter of the Baroque period, active in Verona (died 1742)
 * Heinrich Charasky, Hungarian sculptor (died 1710)
 * José de Cieza, Spanish painter (died 1692)
 * Louis de Deyster, Flemish painter of churches and maker of musical instruments (died 1711)
 * Sebastiano Galeotti, peripatetic Italian painter of the late-Baroque period (died 1746)
 * Maria Oriana Galli-Bibiena, Italian painter (died 1749)
 * Willem Wissing, Dutch portrait artist (died 1687)

Deaths

 * April 27
 * Gerard van Honthorst, Dutch painter of Utrecht (born 1592)
 * Jan van Goyen, Dutch landscape painter (born 1596)
 * May 17 - Dirck Hals, Dutch painter of festivals and ballroom scenes (born 1591)
 * July 12 - Giovanni Giacomo Barbelli, Italian painter, active in Brescia (born 1604)
 * August - Salomon Koninck, Dutch painter of genre scenes, portraits and an engraver (born 1609)
 * November 12 - Hendrick van Anthonissen, Dutch marine painter (born 1605)
 * December 20 - David Beck, Dutch portrait painter (born 1621)
 * December 28 - Laurent de La Hyre, French painter (born 1606)
 * date unknown
 * Guido Ubaldo Abbatini, Italian painter (born 1600)
 * Jacopo Barbello, Italian painter (born 1590)
 * Didier Barra, French Renaissance painter (born 1590)
 * Gregorio Bausá, Spanish painter (born 1590)
 * Remigio Cantagallina, Italian etcher (born 1582)
 * Francisco Collantes, Spanish painter (born 1599)
 * Maria de Abarca, Spanish painter of large and miniature portraits (born unknown)
 * Francesco Francanzano, Italian painter (born 1612; executed for inciting rebellion)
 * Francisco Herrera the Elder, Spanish painter and founder of the Seville school for the arts (born 1576)
 * Jean Monier, French painter (born 1600)
 * victims of Naples Plague
 * Bernardo Cavallino, Italian painter working in Naples (born 1616)
 * Massimo Stanzione, Italian Caravaggisti painter of frescoes (born 1586)
 * probable
 * Luigi Miradori, Italian painter, active mainly in Cremona (born 1600/1610)
 * Harmen Steenwijck, Dutch painter of still lifes, notably of fruit (born 1612)
 * possible - Artemisia Gentileschi, Italian painter (born 1593)

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LRoc

LRoc (born James Elbert Phillips) is an American in-house songwriter and producer at Jermaine Dupri's So So Def Recordings. He has co-written and co-produced singles like Janet Jackson's "Call on Me", Monica's "Everytime Tha Beat Drop", Mariah Carey's "Get Your Number", Murphy Lee's "Wat Dat Hook Gon' Be", Usher's "Yeah!", LL Cool J's "Control Myself," and Nelly's "Grillz". He produced Teairra Mari's single "Sponsor" in 2010.

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Talk:Voivod (band)

Away talks about the meaning of Voivod
There is a good interview/article at Indie InTune. In it Michel Langevin discusses the origins of the Voivod name and some of his artistic concepts. Could be integrated into the main article. Agentrickard 20:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

James Hetfield In Voivod?
Reccently on the thrash can on kerrange radio, "loz" was talking about how James Hetfield has joined voivod (took piggys place? as he has caner??) and is recording their lastest album with them. Is this true? if so I beleive this articles needs to mention it.

Biography
Details about band member's deaths should be cited or quickly removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MADDOX456 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Discography
Quick question: in creating Category:Voivod albums, I've noted that Voivod is described as album #12, but the very next one in the list, Katorz, is described as album #14 (which, with that title, it would more or less have to be). There are also only 13 albums listed in the discography; Katorz is the 13th. So I'm compelled to ask: are we missing an album somewhere in the discography list? Bearcat 08:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

VoiVod seem to count their official publications, including the DVD D-V-O-D-1, not only their studio albums. madmactheriddler 10:16, 20 June 2007

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Genre
I rearranged the genres in the infobox.

http://www.rockdetector.com/artist,9920.sm

Thrash Metal

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:difuxqr5ldde~T1

Speed Metal

Thrash

Heavy Metal

Progressive Metal

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=115

Thrash Metal / Progressive Metal

http://www.bnrmetal.com/groups/voiv.htm

Progressive Metal

http://www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=5&a=l&l=V

Voivod (CDN)

1984 War And Pain Review > 7/10 - Hawk - (Thrash Metal)

1986/1988 Rrröööaaarrr Review > 2,5/10 - Hawk - (Thrash Metal)

1987/1988 Killing Technology Review > 9/10 - Hawk - (Thrash Metal)

1991 Angel Rat Review > 9/10 - Ralf - (Indie Metal)

2003 s/t Review > 9,5/10 - Joe - (Hard Rock)

2006 Katorz Review > 3/10 - Keith - (Thrash Metal/Punk)

2006 Katorz Review > 8,5/10 - Armen - (Thrash Metal/Punk)

I couldn't find any review site mentioning avant-garde metal, so I've removed it. Thrash metal and progressive metal are the most common ones, and can stay. Emmaneul (Talk) 23:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

So what's up with the genre separators? Comma or line-break? This is a silly edit war. Hondo77 (talk) 23:53, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

 * and it has been for a long time. The majority consensus throughout Wiki is to use sentence structure lists over broken lists simply because it shortens the box length (always a bone of contention) but there is a very vocal minority of about 5 editors who find there way around it and keep the crufty coded lists. One common sense resolution was proposed by a very brilliant editor which stated that the line breaks were OK if there were only 2 genres in place but when there were 3 or more then the sentence structure should be used as the cleaner format. It was a brilliant idea applauded by many. But the vocal minority who wanted the "my way or the highway" option ignored it. So they get their panties in a bunch when they see the plan being used because they think it wasn't agreed upon. In a way it wasn't. No one ever finalised the conversation. They just went ahead with the plan because they were tired of dead-end conversations with the same 4 or 5 whiny babies who kept the whole stupid debate going in the first place. But the idea works for many and so the many win in the end regardless of the vocal minority. Libs (talk) 00:04, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

One, there is majority consensus on line breaks or commas in the genre box on wikipedia. Most tend to use line breaks, but very many editors have been going around and changing the line breaks to commas, which starting the debate. Most of these editors exist for the sole perpose of changing line breaks to commas, and never listen to anyone telling them differnet. As anyone can see, this editor is very biased and appartenly has not read WP:CIVIL in a while. As the only the people who want this to stay are Ips who only edit delimeters, and therefore be disregarded, and Wiki libs, I fell the page should be changed back to it's original form. Johan Rachmaninov (talk) 01:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Looking through the different anons who have edited this page and established a consensus for format... not one of them were "delimiter only editors". They were all very constructive editors. As for the "therefore be disregarded" comment... Wikipedia is the encyclopedia "anyone can edit". "Anyone" can be an IP anon. And the edits of an anon are no less important than the edits of a logged account. Perhaps we can discuss this more when you return. Libs (talk) 10:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

The problem is not that these editors are IPs. I agree that an Ip can be asss effective as an editor as someone with an account. The point is that these IP/Ip are cleary biased and are olny interstested in forwarding thier agenda. If you notice said Ip who was editing this page has stopped. Plus I have a good reason to suspest that the edits made to this page was not made by multipule Ips, but one dynamic IP user. This is excluding 82.69.65.99. If you notice none of these users asked abour change delimeters on the talk page, as they should have. In fact, they showed a disregard for many key wikipedia policies.Johan Rachmaninov (talk) 20:01, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

With their genre:

 * - War and Pain - Thrash metal, speed metal, hardcore punk, heavy metal
 * - Rrröööaaarrr - Speed metal, thrash metal, hardcore punk, heavy metal
 * - Killing Technology - Thrash metal, speed metal (small amounts), progressive rock/metal (fragments), space rock, heavy metal, experimental rock
 * - Dimension Hatöss - Thrash metal, progressive metal, space rock, heavy metal, experimental rock
 * - Nothingface - Progressive rock/metal, Thrash metal (fragments), space rock, Psychedelic rock (only in 1-2 songs), heavy metal, post-metal, experimental rock, art rock, avant-garde
 * - Angel Rat - Progressive rock/metal, alternative metal, hard rock, space rock, psychedelic rock, heavy metal, art rock, experimental rock, alternative rock/metal, avant-garde
 * - The Outer Limits - Progressive rock/metal, space rock, alternative rock/metal, hard rock, heavy metal, experimental rock, art rock, avant-garde
 * Negatron - Progressive rock/metal, industrial metal, heavy metal, experimental rock, avant-garde
 * - Phobos - Industrial metal, progressive rock/metal, alternative metal (in a couple of songs), space rock, hard rock, psychedelic rock, heavy metal, experimental rock, avant-garde
 * - Katorz - Progressive rock, hard rock, heavy metal, alternative rock/metal, hardcore punk, heavy metal, experimental metal, avant-garde
 * - Voivod - Progressive metal, heavy metal, thrash metal, hard rock, heavy metal, alternative rock/metal
 * - Infini - Progressive metal, thrash metal, heavy metal
 * - Target Earth - Progressive metal, thrash metal, space rock, heavy metal, psychedelic rock, avant-garde, experimental rock

Tally of genres: Progressive metal - 11 thrash metal - 8 speed metal - 3 heavy metal - 12 space rock - 6 industrial metal - 2 hard rock - 5 post-rock/metal - 1 alternative metal - 4 hardcore punk - 3 psychedelic rock - 2 experimental rock/metal - 9 art rock - 3 alternative rock/metal - 5 avant-garde - 7

On the Wikipedia article, these are only ones that should be on the article: Progressive rock/metal, thrash metal, space rock, heavy metal, avant-garde, experimental rock, and hard rock as their genres - and nothing else. That is all because Voivod's genres is getting way too long for their genres to put on the page, this is just getting ridiculous. They encompass almost every genre out there.

panicpack121 12:35, 23 February, 2014

pronuciation
its pronounced voy-vod right?

Yes, try listening to their self-titled song he says "voy-vod!!!" at the very start. --CircafuciX (talk) 04:04, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Line-Up Section
This section is really, really hard to read, and it has way too much redundancy. It should either be converted into a bar graph table or a more regular line-up listing only the names (once, not repeatedly) and the years the member was active. Κεραυνοσκώπηα (talk) 02:36, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

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Just noticed that it states Snake left in 1991, but I think this was in 1993-1994? And Eric Forrest only really performed on 2 studio albums, a remix/compliation album and a live album. Should be made a bit more specific - would edit myself but for whatever reason this article is semi-protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.167.165 (talk) 16:28, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

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AIM-68 Big Q

The AIM-68 is an American air-to-air missile design. It never entered production.

Overview
The Big Q began life in 1963 as a replacement for the AIR-2 Genie rocket. The Genie was unguided, and had generally poor flight performance characteristics. The Big Q was to be a much more capable weapon, intended to engage Soviet bombers.

Big Q is actually a nickname only. The right to name the missile was given to the initial designer, 1st Lt John McMasters, who chose the name of the Aztec serpent god Quetzalcoatl. This led to a tremendous number of pronunciation and spelling errors until virtually everybody associated with the project referred to it as Big Q for short.

In 1965 the ZAIM-68A designation was assigned to the missile. A 20% model was successfully tested in a wind tunnel during that year and in June a contract was awarded to National Tapered Wing Engineering Company to produce 20 fuselage sections for prototype missiles.

The AIM-68 was designed with a dual-thrust solid-propellant rocket and was capable of reaching speeds of Mach 4 over its 65 km range. The prototypes were fitted with infrared guidance systems from GAR-2A/B (AIM-4C/D) Falcon missiles; the rocket motor from the AGM-12 Bullpup was used for propulsion. The warhead was a W30 0.5 kiloton nuclear warhead, smaller than the 1.5 kiloton model used on the Genie. The guidance system allowed the missile to be used against maneuvering targets, including single bombers, rather than whole formations as was the case for the Genie. The reduced yield and greater range also made using the weapon a far less hazardous prospect for the launching aircraft.

Potential users of the Big Q included the F-101B, F-102A, F-106A, F-4C. The size of the missile was dictated by these choices, as some of the aircraft carried weapons in an internal bay. As part of the effort to keep the size down, the missile was fitted with fold-out sections on the main wings.

There have been attempts to reuse the -68 designation; notably the U.S. Navy wanted their new Standard Block V missile to be known as the RIM-68A. This failed (the designation RIM-156A was used instead). In 1995, the Navy tried to change it again—apparently wanting an operational missile to have a continuous run with the RIM-66 Standard MR and RIM-67 Standard ER designations. The request was refused again.

Specifications

 * Length : 2.92 m
 * Wingspan : 86 cm (with the wings extended)
 * Diameter : 35 cm
 * Weight : 225 kg
 * Speed : Mach 4
 * Range : 65 km
 * Propulsion : Solid-fuel rocket
 * Warhead : W30 Mod 4 Y2 nuclear (0.5 kt)

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Gaslighting

Gaslighting is a colloquialism, defined as manipulating someone into questioning their own perception of reality. The expression, which derives from the title of the 1944 film Gaslight, became popular in the mid-2010s. Merriam-Webster cites deception of one's memory, perception of reality, or mental stability. According to a 2022 Washington Post report, it had become a "trendy buzzword" frequently improperly used to describe ordinary disagreements, rather than those situations that align with the word's historical definition.

Etymology

The origin of the term is the 1938 British thriller play Gas Light by Patrick Hamilton, which provided the source material for the 1940 British film, Gaslight. The film was then remade in 1944 in America – also as Gaslight – and it is this film which has since become the primary reference point for the term. Set among London's elite during the Victorian era, it portrays a seemingly genteel husband using lies and manipulation to isolate his heiress wife and persuade her that she is mentally unwell so that he can steal from her. The term "gaslighting" itself is neither in the screenplay nor mentioned in either the films or the play in any context. In the story, the husband secretly dims and brightens the indoor gas-powered lighting but insists his wife is imagining it, making her think she is going insane.

The gerund form gaslighting was first used in the 1950s, particularly in the episode of The Burns and Allen Show; in The New York Times, it was first used in a 1995 column by Maureen Dowd. According to the American Psychological Association in 2021, gaslighting "once referred to manipulation so extreme as to induce mental illness or to justify commitment of the gaslighted person to a psychiatric institution". Largely an obscure or esoteric term until gaining popularity in the mid-2010s – The New York Times only used it nine times in the following 20 years – it has seeped into the English lexicon and is now used more generally. Merriam-Webster defines it as "psychological manipulation" to make someone question their "perception of reality" leading to "dependence on the perpetrator".

The term has received a number of notable recognitions. The American Dialect Society named gaslight the "most useful" new word of 2016. Oxford University Press named gaslighting as a runner-up in its list of the most popular new words of 2018.

In self-help and amateur psychology
Gaslighting is a term used in self-help and amateur psychology to describe a dynamic that can occur in personal relationships (romantic or parental) and in workplace relationships. Gaslighting involves two parties: the "gaslighter", who persistently puts forth a false narrative in order to manipulate, and the "gaslighted", who struggles to maintain their individual autonomy. Gaslighting is typically effective only when there is an unequal power dynamic or when the gaslighted has shown respect to the gaslighter.

Gaslighting is different from genuine relationship disagreement, which is both common and important in relationships. Gaslighting is distinct in that: The term gaslighting is more often used to refer to a pattern of behavior over a long duration, not a one-off instance of persuasion, but the method(s) of persuasion is the defining trait of gaslighting behavior. Over time, the listening partner may exhibit symptoms often associated with anxiety disorders, depression, or low self-esteem. Gaslighting is distinct from genuine relationship conflict in that one party manipulates the perceptions of the other.
 * one partner is consistently listening and considering the other partner's perspective;
 * one partner is consistently negating the other's perception, insisting that they are wrong, or telling them that their emotional reaction is irrational or dysfunctional.

In psychiatry and psychology
The word gaslighting (referring to the behavior described in the above amateur psychology section) is occasionally used in clinical literature, but is considered a colloquialism by the American Psychological Association.

Since the 1970s, the term has been used in psychoanalytic literature to describe a "conscious intent to brainwash".

Barton and Whitehead (1969) described three case reports of gaslighting with the goal of securing a person's involuntary commitment to a psychiatric hospital, motivated by a desire to get rid of relatives or obtain financial gain: a wife attempting to frame her husband as violent so she could elope with her lover, another wife alleging that her pub-owning husband was an alcoholic in order to leave him and take control of the pub, and a retirement home manager who gave laxatives to a resident before referring her to a psychiatric hospital for slight dementia and incontinence. In 1977, at a time when published literature on gaslighting was still sparse, Lund and Gardiner published a case report on an elderly woman who was repeatedly involuntarily committed for alleged psychosis, by staffers of her retirement home, but whose symptoms always disappeared shortly after admittance without any treatment. After investigation, it was discovered that her 'paranoia' had been the result of gaslighting by staffers of the retirement home, who knew the woman had suffered from paranoid psychosis 15 years prior. The research paper, "Gaslighting: A Marital Syndrome" (1988), includes clinical observations of the impact on wives after their reactions were mislabeled by their husbands and male therapists. Other experts have noted values and techniques of therapists can be harmful as well as helpful to clients (or indirectly to other people in a client's life).

In his 1996 book, Gaslighting, the Double Whammy, Interrogation and Other Methods of Covert Control in Psychotherapy and Analysis, Theo L. Dorpat recommends non-directive and egalitarian attitudes and methods on the part of clinicians, and "treating patients as active collaborators and equal partners". He writes, "Therapists may contribute to the victim's distress through mislabeling the [victim's] reactions.... The gaslighting behaviors of the spouse provide a recipe for the so-called 'nervous breakdown' for some [victims, and] suicide in some of the worst situations." Dorpat also cautions clinicians about the unintentional abuse of patients when using interrogation and other methods of covert control in Psychotherapy and Analysis, as these methods can subtly coerce patients rather than respect and genuinely help them.

This increased global awareness of the dangers of gaslighting has not been met with enthusiasm by all psychologists, some of whom have issued warnings that overuse of the term could weaken its meaning and minimize the serious health effects of such abuse.

Motivations
Gaslighting is a way to control the moment, stop conflict, ease anxiety, and feel in control. However, it often deflects responsibility and tears down the other person. Some may gaslight their partners by denying events, including personal violence.

Learned behavior
Gaslighting is a learned trait. A gaslighter is a student of social learning. They witness it, experience it themselves, or stumble upon it, and see that it works, both for self-regulation and coregulation. Studies have shown that gaslighting is more prevalent in couples where one or both partners have maladaptive personality traits (such as traits associated with short-term mental illness like depression), substance-induced illness (e.g., alcoholism), mood disorders (e.g., bipolar disorder), anxiety disorders (e.g., PTSD), personality disorder (e.g., BPD, NPD, etc.), neurodevelopmental disorder (e.g., ADHD), or combination of the above (i.e., co-occurrence) and are prone to and adept at convincing others to doubt their own perceptions.

Habilitation
It can be difficult to extricate oneself from a gaslighting power dynamic:
 * Those who gaslight must attain greater emotional awareness and self-regulation, or;
 * Those being gaslighted must learn that they do not need others to validate their reality, and they need to gain self-reliance and confidence in defining their own reality.

Broader use
The word "gaslighting" is often used incorrectly to refer to conflicts and disagreements. According to Robin Stern, PhD, co-founder of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence, "Gaslighting is often used in an accusatory way when somebody may just be insistent on something, or somebody may be trying to influence you. That's not what gaslighting is."

Some mental health experts have expressed concern that the broader use of the term is diluting its usefulness and may make it more difficult to identify the specific type of abuse described in the original definition.

In medicine
"Medical gaslighting" is an informal term that refers to patients having their real symptoms dismissed or downplayed by medical professionals, leading to incorrect diagnoses. Women and racial minorities are more likely to be affected by the phenomenon.

In politics
Gaslighting is more likely to be effective when the gaslighter has a position of power.

In the 2008 book State of Confusion: Political Manipulation and the Assault on the American Mind, the authors contend that the prevalence of gaslighting in American politics began with the age of modern communications:

"To say gaslighting was started by... any extant group is not simply wrong, it also misses an important point. Gaslighting comes directly from blending modern communications, marketing, and advertising techniques with long-standing methods of propaganda. They were simply waiting to be discovered by those with sufficient ambition and psychological makeup to use them."

The term has been used to describe the behavior of politicians and media personalities on both the left and the right sides of the political spectrum. Some examples include:
 * American journalists used the word "gaslighting" to describe the actions of Donald Trump during the 2016 US presidential election and his term as president. *
 * "Gaslighting" has been used to describe state implemented psychological harassment techniques used in East Germany during the 1970s and 80s. The techniques were used as part of the Stasi's (the state security service's) decomposition methods, which were designed to paralyze the ability of hostile-negative (politically incorrect or rebellious) people to operate without unjustifiably imprisoning them, which would have resulted in international condemnation.
 * "Gaslighting" has been used to describe state implemented psychological harassment techniques used in East Germany during the 1970s and 80s. The techniques were used as part of the Stasi's (the state security service's) decomposition methods, which were designed to paralyze the ability of hostile-negative (politically incorrect or rebellious) people to operate without unjustifiably imprisoning them, which would have resulted in international condemnation.
 * "Gaslighting" has been used to describe state implemented psychological harassment techniques used in East Germany during the 1970s and 80s. The techniques were used as part of the Stasi's (the state security service's) decomposition methods, which were designed to paralyze the ability of hostile-negative (politically incorrect or rebellious) people to operate without unjustifiably imprisoning them, which would have resulted in international condemnation.
 * "Gaslighting" has been used to describe state implemented psychological harassment techniques used in East Germany during the 1970s and 80s. The techniques were used as part of the Stasi's (the state security service's) decomposition methods, which were designed to paralyze the ability of hostile-negative (politically incorrect or rebellious) people to operate without unjustifiably imprisoning them, which would have resulted in international condemnation.
 * "Gaslighting" has been used to describe state implemented psychological harassment techniques used in East Germany during the 1970s and 80s. The techniques were used as part of the Stasi's (the state security service's) decomposition methods, which were designed to paralyze the ability of hostile-negative (politically incorrect or rebellious) people to operate without unjustifiably imprisoning them, which would have resulted in international condemnation.

In popular culture
One of the earliest uses of the term in television was in a 1952 episode of The Burns and Allen Show titled "Gracie Buying Boat for George".

The word is used in a 1962 episode of Car 54, Where Are You? titled "What Happened to Thursday?".

In the 1974 The Six Million Dollar Man second-season episode, "The Seven Million Dollar Man", Steve Austin accuses Oscar Goldman, Rudy Wells and nurse Carla Peterson of gaslighting him after all three try to convince him that an incident he saw did not happen.

In 1994, the character Roz Doyle uses the phrase in "Fortysomething", an episode of the American television sitcom Frasier.

In a 2000 interview, the writers of the song "Gaslighting Abbie" (Steely Dan album Two Against Nature) explain that the lyrics were inspired by a term they heard in New York City, "gaslighting", which they believed was derived from the 1944 film Gaslight. "It is about a certain kind of mind [manipulation] or messing with somebody's head".

During the period 2014–2016, BBC Radio 4's soap opera The Archers aired a two-year long storyline about Helen who was subjected to slow-burning coercive control by her bullying, manipulative husband, Rob. The show shocked listeners, sparking a national discussion about domestic abuse.

In the 2016 film The Girl on the Train, Rachel has severe depression and alcoholism. The storyline evolves around Rachel's blackouts as her husband consistently tells her that she has done terrible things that she did not actually do.

In 2017, the phrase was used to describe Harvey Weinstein's extraordinary measures (see ) to discredit the women he sexually preyed upon, the journalists investigating their stories, and the public. *

In 2018, NBC's soap opera Days of Our Lives had a months-long storyline about retaliation and Gabi's systematic efforts to have her best friend Abigail committed into a mental health care facility. In the end, Gabi gleefully confessed to Abigail what she had done to her and why.

In 2019, CNN's nightly news commentary, Anderson Cooper 360°, aired 24 episodes about the lies being told by politicians in the news. The segments were named "Keeping Them Honest: We'll Leave The Gaslight on for You, Part __".

In 2020, country music group the Chicks released a song titled "Gaslighter" about a manipulative husband.

In 2022, the Starz miniseries Gaslit starring Julia Roberts and Sean Penn uses the term as its title to describe the themes of deception and abuse of power underlying the Watergate Scandal which ultimately brought down the presidency of Richard Nixon.

In 2022, Merriam-Webster named "gaslighting" as its Word of the Year due to the vast increase in channels and technologies used to mislead and the word becoming common for the perception of deception.

The Gospel of Afranius, a praised atheistic Russian work originally self-published in 1995 that came out in English in 2022, proposes politically motivated gaslighting as the origin of the foundational Christian belief in the resurrection of Jesus.

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Michael Coleman

Michael Coleman may refer to:

Arts and entertainment

 * Michael Coleman (author) (born 1946), English writer of books for children and young adults
 * Michael Coleman (blues musician) (1956–2014), American blues guitarist
 * Michael Coleman (dancer) (born 1940), British ballet dancer
 * Michael Coleman (fiddler) (1891–1945), Irish-American fiddler
 * T. Michael Coleman (born 1951), American bass player of bluegrass and folk music
 * Michael Coleman, English musician of Brian and Michael
 * Michael Coleman (The Walking Dead), a minor fictional character

Others

 * Michael Coleman (baseball) (born 1975), American outfielder
 * Michael Coleman (bishop) (1902–1969), Anglican bishop
 * Michael Coleman (hurler) (born 1962), Irish retired hurler
 * Michael Coleman (unionist), American labor union leader
 * Michael B. Coleman (born 1954), American politician, former mayor of Columbus, Ohio
 * Michael Gower Coleman (1939–2011), Roman Catholic bishop of Port Elizabeth, South Africa

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Eminem trivia
Could you please provide a source for the trivia note you added to the Eminem article (the one about Dre thinking he was black when he fist heard him). I'm very closely familiar with Eminem's history (I'm actually currently rewriting the Eminem article at User:Aramgutang/Worksheet), and I have never heard such a statement before. Thanks. --Aramգուտանգa|  18:59, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * No, that's OK, no need for a source unless you can find a transcript or another legitimate source. I searched around, and did find it mentioned on some websites, but nothing that could be used as a source. I was just thrown off by the fact that I had never heard that before, and it seemed unlikely given that Eminem has a really white-sounding voice. I'll try to catch Ultimate Albums: The Marshall Mathers LP if they ever show it again just to make sure though. --Aramգուտանգa|  22:12, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

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User:Cobrabob~enwiki

Cobrabob also known by his given name Robert, was born on August 28 1976. He is a trained economist and cultural anthropologist, currently involved in a research project in the Americas. Cobrabob is also a certified know-it-all and a generally obnoxious person.

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Talk:The Daily Howler

POV
I disagree with the POV edits, Sommerby is unusual in the field for criticizing both sides, while he does not disguise his liberal leanings he is far less partisan than media matters which only ever reports right wing bias. He is also notable for attacking left wing bloggers, which incidentally is probably why his rankings have slipped a bit of late, people are less willing to link to him after he slams them. Incidentally, mention of Chris Mathews is misleading, on the left Mathews is considered a right wing pundit even though Mathews still claims he is a democrat. --Gorgonzilla 18:48, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Examples
Sommerby broke the story of how Declan McCullough reporting comments on his own reporting created the false 'Gore claimed to have invented the Internet' meme. Anyone want to get the details?--Gorgonzilla 20:33, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Notability
Here are some comments I included in the VfD as evidence of notability. Perhaps some of this is interesting to incorporate in the article.

The Daily Howler is notable because it is one of the most influential political blogs out there. Arguably, it is notable also because it was one of the earliest political blogs (1998).

Evidence of influence (this list could easily be expanded): A message to my fellow journalists: check out media watch sites like campaigndesk.org, mediamatters.org and dailyhowler.com. It's good to see ourselves as others see us. I've been finding The Daily Howler's concept of a media "script," a story line that shapes coverage, often in the teeth of the evidence, particularly helpful in understanding cable news.
 * The Columbia Journalism Review ran an article about The Daily Howler and its author Bob Somerby from which I quote: "Bob Somerby needs no introduction, of course, unless your days are spent solely in the brick-and-mortar world..."
 * Paul Krugman opened one of his op-eds for the New York Times as follows:
 * The Daily Howler was included by CNN on a list of about twenty "political must-read" websites.
 * It is currently listed by Alexa as the tenth ranked journalism site.
 * Many of the most prominent political blogs include The Daily Howler on their blog roll or equivalent, despite the fact that Somerby does not reciprocate (he has no such list): e.g. Daily Kos, Instapundit and Brad Delong's site (I only checked these three).

Crust 16:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Removed this from the last sentence: ", although more articles are critical of right wing media bias than left."
I thought this was misleading, as in fact Somerby's main focus, and the objects of his most vitriolic attacks, are those members of the supposedly left-leaning "mainstream media" who tend to fixate on meaningless minutiae and neglect real reporting in favor of speculative commentary on people's motives. Pwallach 17:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Somerby's focus is not on politics directly, but on the terrible job that our media does. He rails long and hard against left leaning media figures, although mostly for reasons of ineptness or apparent collusion--with the media establishment--in supporting favored "scripts". Another example is Somerby's long-standing devotion to accurate reporting on education, where he finds fault with the generally poor reporting on the subject. User:RedCharlie RedCharlie (talk) 20:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Probably the best known...
That dubious sentence is the worst sentence I've ever seen on wikipedia. Please get some sources. Timneu22 (talk) 10:09, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

 * If that's the worst you've seen, all I can say is welcome to Wikipedia. ;)
 * The sentence in question (now deleted) was: "The Daily Howler is probably the best known "media monitoring" blog that has an extensive track record of criticizing bias on both sides of the political divide."
 * There are two implicit claims in there:
 * 1. The Daily Howler has such a track record and
 * 2. it is (probably) the best known media blog with such a track record.
 * As for #1, I think that's widely recognized, see e.g. Somerby's very extensive criticism of Joe Wilson which generated a lot of animosity against him from the progressive blogosphere. As for #2, well what other media monitoring blog with such a track record is better known?  Daily Howler is certainly one of the best known media monitoring blogs and most such blogs rarely criticize their "own side".  Whatever you think of e.g. Media Matters (respectively, NewsBusters) surely it is undeniable that they seldom aggressively criticize the left (respectively, the right). Crust (talk) 14:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Background
Shouldn't the fact that Somerby was Al Gore's college roommate be mentioned somewhere here? His friendship with Gore is pretty obviously relevant to the origins of his site. john k (talk) 16:39, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

It already does. It currently says " In college at Harvard, he was roommates with the actor Tommy Lee Jones and former Vice President Al Gore." Fred Birchmore (talk) 17:14, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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Babine

In its broader sense, Babine (sometimes spelled Babeen in older English-language texts) refers to the First Nations peoples who speak the Babine dialect of the Babine-Witsuwitʼen language, part of the Athabaskan language family, in the vicinity of the Babine River, Babine Lake, Trembleur Lake, and Takla Lake in the central interior of British Columbia, Canada.

In its narrower sense, Babine refers to the subset of Babine speakers who belong to the Lake Babine Nation, a band comprising three main communities:
 * Fort Babine (traditional name: Wit'at, approx. 100 full-time residents);
 * Tachet (approx. 100 full-time residents);
 * and Woyenne (next to the village of Burns Lake, approx. 800 residents).

The term Babine is of French origin, meaning "lippy", because when first encountered by fur traders. Babine women wore labrets. Although perceived by some as disparaging, the band prefers to use the name "Lake Babine Nation" because it emphasizes the connection of the people to their traditional territory around Babine Lake. Other ethnonyms associated with the Babine in historical literature incorrectly include Chemesyan or Chimpseyan, which is an archaic term used for all Tsimshianic speaking peoples, usually the Tsimshian.

The Babine is located in the Skeena River watershed.

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Grosvenor Atterbury

Grosvenor Atterbury (July 7, 1869 in Detroit, MI – October 18, 1956 in Southampton, NY) was an American architect, urban planner and writer. He studied at Yale University, where he was an editor of campus humor magazine The Yale Record After travelling in Europe, he studied architecture at Columbia University and worked in the offices of McKim, Mead & White.

Much of Atterbury's early work consisted of weekend houses for wealthy industrialists. Atterbury was given the commission for the model housing community of Forest Hills Gardens which began in 1909 under the sponsorship of the Russell Sage Foundation.

For Forest Hills, Atterbury developed an innovative construction method: each house was built from approximately 170 standardized precast concrete panels, fabricated off-site and assembled by crane. The system was sophisticated even by modern standards: panels were cast with integral hollow insulation chambers; casting formwork incorporated an internal sleeve, allowing molds to be "broken" before concrete had completely set; and panels were moved to the site in only two operations (formwork to truck and truck to crane).

Atterbury's system influenced the work of mid-1920s European modern architects like Ernst May, who used panelized prefab concrete systems in a number of celebrated experimental housing projects in Frankfurt. In this way Atterbury can be considered a progenitor of the Modern Movement.

Atterbury was elected to the National Academy of Design in 1918 as an Associate member, and became a full member in 1940.

Atterbury worked on various projects with John D. Rockefeller, Jr., in the 1930s, including what today is Stone Barns Food and Agriculture Center, and the Gatehouse and Entrance Wall to Kykuit Estate, as well as the six stucco houses built for estate employees. The six houses were designed as the core of Pocantico Village that Rockefeller was building as Kykuit was being completed, and to complement the style of the Union Church and Pocantico Hills Central School, which he had completed.

Works

 * Parrish Art Museum in Southampton, NY. The building was commissioned by Samuel Longstreth Parrish to fellow Southampton resident, the architect Grosvenor Atterbury. It was constructed in 1897 in downtown Southampton at 25 Jobs Lane.
 * Connecticut Hall restoration, New Haven, Connecticut, 1905
 * Renaissance Pittsburgh Hotel (formerly Fulton Building), Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 1906
 * Tenney Memorial Chapel, Walnut Grove Cemetery, Methuen, Massachusetts, 1906
 * The Boulders, 99 Shore Ave. Greenwood Lake, New York, 1911
 * The Church-in-the-Gardens, New York City, 1915
 * Surprise Valley Farm, Newport, Rhode Island, 1914-1916
 * Industrial village (the pottery houses) for Holston Corporation, 1915-1916
 * House of the Redeemer, New York City, 1916
 * Wereholme, Islip, New York, 1917
 * Carriage Paths, Bridges and Gatehouses, Acadia National Park and vicinity Acadia National Park, Maine, 1919
 * Aldus Chapin Higgins House, Worcester, Massachusetts, 1921
 * Sage House (formerly Russell Sage Foundation Building), New York City, 1922 to 1926
 * Holy Trinity Rectory, a four-storey brick rectory at 341 East 87th Street, Manhattan, 1927 (for $50,000).
 * Kykuit Gate House and Entrance Wall, and Administrative Building, Pocantico Hills, New York, 1930
 * Pond Mansion, Tucson, Arizona, 1930
 * Stone Barns Center for Food and Agriculture, Pocantico Hills, New York, 1930-33
 * Six cottages commissioned by John D. Rockefeller, Jr., for estate employees, Kykuit, Pocantico Hills, New York, 1930-33
 * Rockefeller Hall, Winter Harbor, Maine, 1933, commissioned by John D. Rockefeller, Jr. and built by the National Park Service to house Navy personnel in the French Norman Revival-style.
 * Children's Village of the Hartford Orphan Asylum, 1680 Albany Ave. Hartford, Connecticut
 * Shore Road Historic District, Shore Rd. Cold Spring Harbor, New York

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