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Bocq

The Bocq is a river in Belgium, a right-bank tributary of the Meuse. The full length of the Bocq lies in the province of Namur.

Geography
The Bocq originates in Scy, Condroz, at an altitude of 305 meters. On its way it passes through the villages of Mohiville, Achet, Hamois, Emptinne, Sovet, Braibant and Spontin. From this village, the valley gets woodier. In Bauche, it receives the waters of its main tributary, the Crupet. After 45 km, the Bocq empties into the right bank of the Meuse in Yvoir, at an altitude of 90 meters. Its average slope is 0.48% and the surface area of its basin is 230 km2.

Communes crossed by the Bocq

 * Hamois (from Scy to Emptinne and near Natoye).
 * Ciney (near Braibant).
 * Yvoir (from Spontin to the center of Yvoir where it flows into the Meuse).

Tributaries

 * The Crupet (right bank)
 * The Leignon (left bank)
 * The Petit Bocq (right bank)
 * The Potriat (left bank)

Economy

 * 2 stone quarries are still in use between Spontin and Yvoir. There were several dozen of them, which is why the railway line was built.
 * On the banks of its lower part, the Bocq had several mills used to grind grain or, in the hamlet of Chansin, to generate the electricity needed to crush limestone.
 * On the territories of Spontin, Dorinne and Crupet, the water of a few sources in the Bocq valley is collected by Vivaqua, the former Compagnie Intercommunale Bruxelloise des Eaux (CIBE) at a rate of 34.000 m3 to 55.000 m3 per day. It supplies about 15% of the Brussels drinking water distribution network.
 * In Spontin, the water of three sources had been collected by the Spadel company since 1922 and bottled on site. It was also used for lemonade production. In August 2011 Mecca Cola developed a plan to exploit the Spontin sources, but abandoned it in 2012.
 * The Bocq gave its name to the Brasserie du Bocq in Purnode.
 * Railway line 128 follows the Bocq from Braibant to Yvoir and is operated as a tourist line by the Chemin de fer du Bocq.

Flow
The discharge of the river measured at Yvoir (230 km2 basin) between 1980 and 2003 was 2.21 m3 per second. Measurements during the same period show:
 * An average of 3.57 m3 per second in 1981, the maximum average annual flow over the period.
 * A minimum average annual flow of 1.0 m3 per second in 1996.

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Naptown

Naptown is a nickname and may refer to:

 * Naples, Florida
 * Indianapolis, Indiana
 * Annapolis, Maryland
 * Kannapolis, North Carolina

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Uncle Morty's Dub Shack

Uncle Morty's Dub Shack is a television series produced by the cable network ImaginAsian TV from 2004 through 2006. Written, directed by and starring Trevor Moore and James Matison ("Jimbo") and also starring John Chou, Aladdin Ullah and Patrick T. McGowan, the show ran for two seasons, though there is conflicting information about how many total episodes were produced. Moore left his role as writer/director for the majority of the second season, but returned for on-camera roles.

The show centered on a ramshackle audio studio run by Matison's fictitious Uncle Morty (McGowan), a grouchy old man suffering from hearing loss. When Morty is assigned to create English dubbed versions of poorly made Asian B-movies without scripts or translations, he enlists Matison and his out-of-work friends (Moore, Chou and Ullah, all using their real first names) as voice actors. Each episode features approximately 12 minutes of original sitcom footage, intercut with 10 minutes of an Asian film with new and unrelated replacement dialogue of a humorous nature. The sitcom section frequently featured animated sequences.

After the show initially wrapped, several episodes were recut with different pairings between original segments and the movies featured. Films featured included Chinese kung-fu movies from the 1970s such as Fist of Fury and Taoism Drunkard, as well as Bollywood films from the 1990s such as Kyon and Dand Nayak, plus a single Japanese film, Blowback 2: Love and Death.

Guests
The show featured frequent guest stars, including comedians Master Lee, Aziz Ansari and Mike Dobbins, actress Elaine Kwon, and punk band Peelander-Z.

Reaction
ImaginAsian TV had limited coverage (restricted to a few major metropolitan areas), so the show remained largely unknown throughout its run. However, several major press outlets ran favorable reviews of the show, including the San Francisco Examiner and Salon.com. Most compared the show to a faster-paced Mystery Science Theater 3000.

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Taxpayer Identification Number

A Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) is an identifying number used for tax purposes in the United States and in other countries under the Common Reporting Standard. In the United States it is also known as a Tax Identification Number (TIN) or Federal Taxpayer Identification Number (FTIN). A TIN may be assigned by the Social Security Administration (SSA) or by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

Types
Any government-provided number that can be used in the US as a unique identifier when interacting with the IRS is a TIN, though none of them are referred to exclusively as a Taxpayer Identification Number. A TIN may be:
 * a Social Security number (SSN)
 * an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN)
 * an Employer Identification Number (EIN), also known as a FEIN (Federal Employer Identification Number)
 * an Adoption Taxpayer Identification Number (ATIN), used as a temporary number for a child for whom the adopting parents cannot obtain an SSN
 * a Preparer Tax Identification Number (PTIN), used by paid preparers of US tax returns

SSNs
SSNs are used by people who have or had the right to work in the United States.

ITINs
ITINs are used by aliens who may or may not have the right to work in the US, such as aliens on temporary visas and non-resident aliens with US income.

EINs
EINs are used by employers, sole proprietors, corporations, LLCs, partnerships, non-profit associations, trusts, estates of decedents, government agencies, certain individuals, and other business entities.

Relevant Internal Revenue Code sections
Section 6109(a) of the Internal Revenue Code provides (in part) that "When required by regulations prescribed by the Secretary [of the Treasury or his delegate] [ . . . ] Any person required under the authority of this title [i.e., under the Internal Revenue Code] to make a return, statement, or other document shall include in such return, statement or other document such identifying number as may be prescribed for securing proper identification of such person."

Internal Revenue Code section 6109(d) provides: "The social security account number issued to an individual for purposes of section 205(c)(2)(A) of the Social Security Act [codified as ] shall, except as shall otherwise be specified under regulations of the Secretary [of the Treasury or his delegate], be used as the identifying number for such individual for purposes of this title [the Internal Revenue Code, title 26 of the United States Code]."

US taxation

 * Taxation in the United States
 * Taxation in the United States

Number use

 * Personal identification number (PIN)
 * Primary key
 * Serial number
 * Single version of the truth
 * Surrogate key
 * Transaction authentication number
 * Unique identifier (UID)
 * UID (disambiguation) § Identifying numbers
 * VAT identification number

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Finchfield

Finchfield is a suburb of Wolverhampton, West Midlands, England. It is located south-west of the city centre, within the Tettenhall Wightwick Ward between the Merry Hill and Tettenhall Regis Wards of Wolverhampton City Council. Many of the streets have arboreal/plant related names.

History
Until 1974, Finchfield was a district of South Staffordshire. Finchfield was nothing more than a small village until the 20th century, when parcels of agricultural land and the gardens and grounds of gentlemen were sold off for housing.

Churches
Windmill Community Church is a non-denominational Christian church.

Library
Finchfield library was one of nine Wolverhampton libraries that Wolverhampton City Council planned to close or merge, under plans to create 'community hubs' in the city. A consultation was launched after an outcry by the public over the plans, and several 'Save Our Library' campaigns were started. It was proposed that Finchfield library would be closed and moved to Bradmore Community Centre, or extended to include community services. On 28 November 2012, the council announced that Finchfield library along with a few others, would remain open where they are.

Facilities
Westacre Infant school and Uplands Junior school are situated in this area. There are also two public houses, "The Chestnut Tree" and "Westacres". In the centre of Finchfield is a Lidl supermarket, which has been the subject of a public inquiry after it appealed refusal of planning permission when applying to extend the store. The planned extension would result in the demolition of a Victorian era property, which residents and the City Council have appealed against, though the Planning Inspectorate have now granted permission for the extension to go ahead.

Crime and local reaction
There have been several recent criminal incidents around the shopping parade at Finchfield Road West, notably an armed robbery at the Co-Op store in September 2012. In response, residents, with the backing of West Midlands Police, have set up a 'Shop Watch' for recording incidents of anti-social behaviour, graffiti and fly tipping.

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Manchester–Preston line

The Manchester–Preston line runs from the city of Manchester to Preston, Lancashire, England. It is largely used by commuters entering Manchester from surrounding suburbs and cities, but is also one of the main railway lines in the North West and is utilised by TransPennine Express regional services and to Scotland. It was announced in December 2009 that the line would be electrified, following an announcement in July 2009 that the Chat Moss line between Manchester and Liverpool was to be electrified first. The electrification work for this line commenced in May 2015 and was due for completion in May 2018,   but was delayed until December 2018.

Electric service commenced on 11 February 2019.

The line is one of the busiest in the North West, with eight trains per hour in each direction during the off-peak daytime timetable. The line speed is currently 100 mph.

There is a large variety of rolling stock on this line, current rolling stock include Classes 150, 156, 158 and 195 DMUs, 331 and 397 EMUs and 769 and 802 BMUs. Former rolling stock on this line include Classes 142, 153, 175, 180 and 185 DMUs and 319 and 350 EMUs.

History
The line was opened as far as Bolton in 1838 by the Manchester and Bolton Railway, then extended in 1841 by the Bolton and Preston Railway. These were amalgamated, via the East Lancashire Railway, as part of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway.

Route
The route now has 2 starting points in Manchester:
 * Manchester Piccadilly, which offers rail links to most large cities in the country. Trains using the route will call at the through platforms 13 and 14 on the west side of the station. It then follows the route of the Manchester, South Junction and Altrincham Railway as far as Deansgate, where it uses the Windsor link to reach Salford Crescent and joins the line from Manchester Victoria.
 * Manchester Victoria was the original starting point before the Windsor Link was created. It goes through Salford Central, after which it then joins the line from the Windsor Link and enters Salford Crescent.

The route then continues to Clifton, and then passes through Kearsley, Farnworth and Moses Gate following the Irwell Valley for much of the route. The first major town is Bolton. Just after Bolton station there is a junction to the right where the Ribble Valley line, a single track line, heads off to Blackburn and Clitheroe. The line cuts through the western suburbs of Bolton including Lostock, where trains to Wigan Wallgate via Westhoughton, branch off. Next is Horwich Parkway opened in 1999 and Blackrod (where the former Horwich Branch diverged). It then proceeds through the town of Adlington and on to Chorley, passing through, which opened in 2011 and finally joins the West Coast Main Line at Euxton Junction before continuing via Leyland to Preston.

Operators
Northern Trains operate local services over the full length of the line. These include limited stop workings from Manchester Airport and Hazel Grove via Manchester Piccadilly to Blackpool North, along with Manchester Victoria to Preston services and a limited number of Manchester Airport to Barrow-in-Furness and Windermere trains. Other workings use part of the line only - e.g. Manchester Victoria to Wigan Wallgate and Kirkby via Walkden (which diverge at Salford Crescent), Manchester Victoria to Blackburn and Clitheroe (diverge at Bolton) and Stalybridge/Alderley Edge to Southport via Westhoughton (diverge at Lostock Junction).

TransPennine Express (TPX) used to operate the semi-fast Manchester Airport to Blackpool North, Barrow-in-Furness and Windermere services prior to the 2016 franchise change. TPX now only operate express trains to Glasgow Central and Edinburgh Waverley. These were temporarily diverted to via Wigan North Western and Chat Moss but resumed in May 2019 after the completion of the electrification of this line.

Avanti West Coast, and formerly Virgin Trains West Coast, services occasionally use this line (non-stop) when the West Coast Main Line is closed via Wigan North Western on their main Scotland to London route via Manchester Piccadilly.

Other TOCs operate along the southern section of the route to Ordsall Lane Jn and go on to Warrington:
 * Transport for Wales Rail operate services en route to Llandudno via Warrington Bank Quay and Chester.
 * East Midlands Railway also operate services between Norwich and Liverpool Lime Street

Freight and diversions
The line is an important diversionary route at weekends, used in conjunction with the Crewe–Manchester line to divert away from a large section of the West Coast Main Line if required. The convenience is that this only adds 35–40 minutes to a journey and negates the need for costly bus replacement services. Some freight still uses this line (such as stone trains from the Peak District to a distribution terminal at Hope St., Salford and "Bin-liner" refuse trains from Pendleton to Scunthorpe), especially during the peak periods during the day. It is, however, a primary passenger route in the North West of England.

Trains
Class 185 trains were the most frequent units on the line: working for First TransPennine Express to Blackpool North, Barrow-in-Furness and Windermere. In the other direction, they all worked to Manchester Airport although engineering works resulted in some services working to Manchester Victoria instead. Prior to 2007, Class 175 trains worked the majority of these services before the 185s took over. Between May 2001 and December 2006, they worked all Barrow-in-Furness and Windermere services and the majority of the Blackpool North services. However, they never worked to Scotland due to this being a Virgin CrossCountry service until December 2007.

TransPennine Express use mainly newer Class 397 Civitys on the line having replaced the older Class 350 units. Class 185 units still appear occasionally when the Class 397 Civity units are unavailable.

Northern Trains operate a variety of rolling stock for their services, with Class 331s, Class 323s and Class 319. Northern also use Class 195s, Class 158s, Class 156s, Class 153s, Class 150s on the line. Most of the diesel services only use the line south of Bolton as these diverge onto the unelectrified lines, notably the Ribble Valley line to Blackburn and Clitheroe and the Manchester–Southport line to Southport.

Since December 2019, services between Hazel Grove/Manchester Airport and Blackpool North have been run using Class 331 units. Some Sunday services between Manchester Victoria and Blackpool North also use Class 331 units.

Electrification
Work on 25 kV OHL electrification of the line began in May 2015 and has included numerous bridgeworks plus the major undertaking of the re-boring of Farnworth Tunnel. Its high profile resulted in a visit from Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, shortly after work started, and from Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin in August 2015 during the reboring work. Breakthrough was achieved in late, rather than early October, due to loose sand delaying the work in August; the first trains running through the new twin track bore on Monday 14 December 2015. Electrification of the line was due for completion by December 2016, then delayed until December 2017 and then further delayed until May 2018. In January 2018 yet another delay was announced. This was attributed to difficult ground conditions including hard rock and running sand resulting from old mine workings. Test trains (Virgin Pendolino) finally ran between Preston and Manchester in December 2018. The first scheduled passenger-carrying electric services began on 11 February 2019, running to Blackpool North, Buckshaw Parkway, Manchester Victoria and Manchester Airport using Class 319 EMUs.

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NIIRS

The National Imagery Interpretability Rating Scale (NIIRS) is an American subjective scale used for rating the quality of imagery acquired from various types of imaging systems. The NIIRS defines different levels of image quality/interpretability based on the types of tasks an analyst can perform with images of a given NIIRS rating. The idea is that imagery analysts should be able to perform more demanding interpretation tasks as the quality of the imagery increases. It is published as part of the Federation of American Scientists Intelligence Resource Program.

The NIIRS consists of 10 levels, from 0 (worst quality) to 9 (best quality).

Because different types of imagery support different types of interpretation tasks, individual NIIRS has been developed for four major imaging types: Visible, Radar, Infrared, and Multispectral.

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Thomas William Taylor

Thomas William Taylor (September 6, 1852 – February 24, 1924) was a politician in Manitoba, Canada. He served as the 13th Mayor of Winnipeg, and was a member of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba from 1900 to 1914. Taylor was a member of the Conservative Party.

Taylor was born in Portsmouth, England, and was educated in London, Ontario. He came to Winnipeg in 1877 and set up a bookbinding business two years letter. Taylor served as a Winnipeg alderman in 1892, was elected mayor 1893, and was re-elected without opposition in 1894. He was also the president of the Manitoba Rifle Association, and of the St. Andrew's Society. In religion, he was a member of the Church of England.

Taylor first ran for the Manitoba legislature in the 1896 provincial election, and lost to Liberal Peter McIntyre by 238 votes in Winnipeg North. He was first elected to the legislature in a by-election, held for Winnipeg Centre on November 1, 1900. Taylor defeated Liberal candidate Robert Muir by 157 votes, and served in the legislature as a backbench supporter of Rodmond Roblin's administration. He was re-elected in the riding of Winnipeg Centre over the Liberal candidate, J.A. McArthur, in the elections of 1903 and 1907.

He was returned to the legislature again in the 1910 election, under controversial circumstances. Taylor defeated Fred Dixon, a Labour candidate supported by the Liberal Party, by a margin of seventy-three votes. The Socialist Party also ran a candidate in Winnipeg Centre, who received ninety-nine votes. Some believe the Conservatives encouraged the Socialist campaign to ensure their own victory.

Despite his municipal experience, Taylor was never appointed to cabinet. He did not seek re-election in 1914, and died ten years later.

Taylor's son-in-law, W.C. Birt, took over the family's bookbinding business after Taylor's death. The Thomas William Taylor printing plant and book bindery remained open in Winnipeg until 1968.

Taylor Avenue in Winnipeg is named for Thomas William Taylor.

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KLH

KLH may refer to:

 * Keyhole limpet hemocyanin, a carrier protein
 * Kolhapur Airport (IATA code KLH), a regional airport in Kolhapur, Maharashtra, India
 * Korean Light Helicopter, a designation used by the Republic of Korea Army
 * KLH (company), an audio company founded in 1957 in Cambridge, Massachusetts, United States
 * KLH-Arena, a set of ski jump hills in Murau, Austria
 * KLH Vajgar Jindřichův Hradec, an ice hockey team in Jindřichův Hradec, Czech Republic
 * WKLH (also known simply as KLH), a radio station in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States

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TIN

TIN may refer to:

 * Tax identification number, used for tax purposes in the United States
 * Tindouf Airport (IATA code), in Tindouf, Algeria
 * Titanium nitride (TiN), a ceramic material
 * Triangulated irregular network, a geometric data structure

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Langmuir (unit)

The langmuir (symbol: L) is a unit of exposure (or dosage) to a surface (e.g. of a crystal) and is used in ultra-high vacuum (UHV) surface physics to study the adsorption of gases. It is a practical unit, and is not dimensionally homogeneous, and so is used only in this field. It is named after American physicist Irving Langmuir.

Definition
The langmuir is defined by multiplying the pressure of the gas by the time of exposure. One langmuir corresponds to an exposure of 10−6 Torr during one second. For example, exposing a surface to a gas pressure of 10−8 Torr for 100 seconds corresponds to 1 L. Similarly, keeping the pressure of oxygen gas at 2.5·10−6 Torr for 40 seconds will give a dose of 100 L.

Conversion
Since both different pressures and exposure times can give the same langmuir (see Definition) it can be difficult to convert Langmuir (L) to exposure pressure × time (Torr·s) and vice versa. The following equation can be used to easily convert between the two: $$xy[{\rm L}]=x\times 10^{-n}[{\rm Torr}]\cdot y\times 10^{n-6}[{\rm s}]$$Here, $$x$$ and $$y$$ are any two numbers whose product equals the desired Langmuir value, $$n$$ is an integer allowing different magnitudes of pressure or exposure time to be used in conversion. The units are represented in the [square brackets]. Using the prior example, for a dose of 100 L a pressure of 2.5 × 10−6 Torr can be applied for 40 seconds, thus, $$x = 2.5$$, $$y = 40$$ and $$n = 6$$. However, this dosage could also be gained with 8 × 10−8 Torr for 1250 seconds, here $$x = 8$$, $$y = 12.5$$, $$n=8$$. In both scenarios $$xy = 100$$.

Derivation
Exposure of a surface in surface physics is a type of fluence, that is the integral of number flux (JN) with respect to exposed time (t) to give a number of particles per unit area (Φ):

 * $$\Phi = \int{J_N} \, {\rm d}t.$$

The number flux for an ideal gas, that is the number of gas molecules passing through (in a single direction) a surface of unit area in unit time, can be derived from kinetic theory:

 * $$J_N = \frac{C\bar u}{4},$$

where C is the number density of the gas, and $$\bar u$$ is the mean speed of the molecules (not the root-mean-square speed, although the two are related). The number density of an ideal gas depends on the thermodynamic temperature (T) and the pressure (p):

 * $$C = \frac{N}{V} = \frac{p}{kT}.$$

The mean speed of the gas molecules can also be derived from kinetic theory:

 * $$\bar u = \sqrt{\frac{8kT}{\pi m}},$$

where m is the mass of a gas molecule. Hence

 * $$J_N = \frac{C\bar u}{4} = p\sqrt{\frac{1}{2\pi kTm}}.$$

The proportionality between number flux and pressure is only strictly valid for a given temperature and a given molecular mass of adsorbing gas. However, the dependence is only on the square roots of m and T. Gas adsorption experiments typically operate around ambient temperature with light gases, and so the langmuir remains useful as a practical unit.

Usage
Assuming that every gas molecule hitting the surface sticks to it (that is, the sticking coefficient is 1), one langmuir (1 L) leads to a coverage of about one monolayer of the adsorbed gas molecules on the surface. In general, the sticking coefficient varies depending on the reactivity of the surface and the molecules, so that the langmuir gives a lower limit of the time it needs to completely cover a surface.

This also illustrates why ultra-high vacuum (UHV) must be used to study solid-state surfaces, nanostructures or even single molecules. The typical time to perform physical experiments on sample surfaces is in the range of one to several hours. In order to keep the surface free of contaminations, the pressure of the residual gas in a UHV chamber should be below 10−10 Torr.

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Budaiya

Al Budaiya (البديع) is a coastal town located in the northwestern region of Bahrain Island, in the Northern Governorate of the Kingdom of Bahrain. It neighbors the villages of Diraz and Bani Jamra.

History
The town was founded by the Dawasiri tribe, but most of the tribe left en masse to mainland Saudi Arabia in 1923, after conflict emerged with the British colonial authorities. Many Dawasir tribe members later returned to Budaiya, with some still living in the village today. Prior to the discovery of oil in Bahrain, most Budaiya residents were involved in the pearl diving and fishing industry.

According to the Gazetteer of the Persian Gulf, Oman and Central Arabia in 1917, Budaiya village was made up of three distinct quarters; Fariq-al Amarah, Fariq-al Dam (located on Ras-Budaiya) and Fariq-al Budaiya (the oldest quarter). The town had considerable numbers of stone houses and reed huts. The estimated population was 8,000 and were thought to be all adherents of Sunni Islam; 800 houses belonged to the Dawasir tribe, 100 to the Amarah tribe, 50 to the Huwala, 200 to "free negroes" and around 450 houses for black slaves. The port was home to more than 100 boats, over half of which were utilised for pearling. There were also 3 Qur'anic schools in the town. The internal affairs of the town was handled by the Shaikh of the Dawasir, without interference from the Shaikh of Bahrain.

Geography
Budaiya traditionally received its water supply from wells in the adjacent date plantations in the villages of Diraz and Bani Jamra respectively. It is now the location of most farms, stables, and traditional gulf family farms/retreats nakhal. The town serves as one end-point of the Budaiya Road, which runs to Manama. The regions on either side of road are colloquially referred to as Budaiya.

The biggest problem the Budaiya Road region is facing is deforestation due to a waves of construction, and the seeping of sea water into natural underground aquifers as a result of the pre-construction building process of the Mina Salman seaport in the 1950s. Budaiya Road is still remembered as one of the only "naturally shaded" parts of Bahrain where thousands of wild palm trees acted as filters from the hot, glaring desert sun. Most of the trees were cut down to expand the route and 'modernize' the area.

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Talk:Bruce Friedrich

POV
Bleurgh! This whole article is so POV it makes me retch! The PETA article in Wiki is a good template for the presentation of material on a contentious group so why not merge this article? Eddie.willers 21:58, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Removed link: a more detailed explanation
I removed a link to selectively chosen quotes from Friedrich. The site was part of www.activistcash.com, a website dedicated to "exposing" the "radical" "anti-consumer movement": mostly what most people in the middle or left would call "pro-consumer" organizations, but with some genuinely radical ones as well. Such a site is not a good source for a balanced selection of Friedrich's views. -- Orange Mike 01:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

And neither is the extremist organization PETA.--29 February 2008--Susan Nunes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.228.60.4 (talk) 18:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Why isn't PETA a good source for quotes from or about Friedrich since he works there? Obviously, those quotes would likely be pro-Friedrich, but they can be balanced by media or other quotes from or about him. Bob98133 (talk) 20:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * And what about PETA is extremist? They don't promote the mainstream point of view, but it's also not that far out, either.  Djk3 (talk) 22:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Updates
Changed Freidrich's title from Dir. Vegan Campaigns to VP of Int'l Grassroots Campaigns.

Works: Added a couple of projects Friedrich worked on at PETA. Embedded link to Veganism in a Nutshell for formatting. Bob98133 12:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Removed mention of the Catholic Vegetarian Society
I removed the statement that Friedrich "serves on the governing board of the Catholic Vegetarian Society", because that organization went defunct some years back. Wideangle (talk) 21:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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What is wrong with this article
This article is a total advertisement made with original research and SYNTH. Most of the citations fit the description of WP:REFBOMB.

The content in section "Work with The Good Food Institute" is WP:OR with links to Friedrich's work, but there are no secondary sources discussing or covering these works; none covering he is an "active contributor", "has penned opinion pieces", or is a "frequent lecturer and debater on college campuses". The section "Work with Farm Sanctuary" is OR, and points to a non-existent website (not even in archive.org), presumably another primary source. The single citation in section "Teaching at Baltimore Freedom Academy" does not support the content. The single citation in section "Work with PETA" does not support the content.

The next section, "Early life and education", contains more OR, littered with his resume, his father's CV, his mother's obituary, a link to a book he read, and various primary source bios — not that any of this sort of content is controversial, but it is very poor form for a wikipedia article.

The sections "Writing" and "Multimedia" contain numerous external links to his writings, not citations used to support the content in the article. See MOS:EXTERNALLINKS which explains when, where and how external links are acceptable in a wiki article.

I'm not sure what would be left if I took my edit-scalpel and worked on this article. I'll give any page-watchers who care a one week fighting chance to upgrade the article before I schedule edit-surgery.

— Normal Op (talk) 11:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

 * Did some trimming. MOS:WORKS includes basically books, discography and film—that's it! It does NOT include listing every article someone ever wrote that was e-published on the internet. It does NOT include every youtube/TED video a person ever spoke in. It does not include mentioning every preface, foreword or introduction written for someone else's book. I left the Singer book because he authored an entire chapter. But the rest was trimmed per MOS:WORKS. Normal Op (talk) 01:49, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

 * There is much more work to be done on this article! Normal Op (talk) 02:05, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your contributions, Normal Op. I will try to do some cleanup on this page in the near future. Jmill1806 (talk) 13:35, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

I did some additional culling and reworking to address OG and SYNTH issues. Bezoma (talk) 12:23, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Thanks for doing that, Bezoma. I think the lead in particular needs a lot of culling, right? It's just name dropping media companies. I have a busy week ahead but will try to do some work on this myself. Ideally those citations, at least the ones with something important in them, can be kept but integrated into the body of the article. Jmill1806 (talk) 13:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

title: Talk:Bruce Friedrich


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User talk:HKT/archive2

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
It was an accident; he was trying to revert the other guy. Jayjg (talk) 18:33, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Hello! Thanks for your message.  In fact, because I use the new message "+" tab, I didn't see your comment until I'd left mine — but I was glad to have been able to clear things up for you too. --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 22:15, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

User:Cruise
A "kosher tax" conspiracist appears to have show up; see edits at Kosher and Kosher tax. Jayjg (talk) 21:08, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Whitewashing Irving and also ranting about a "Kosher tax"? There's a shocker. The extremely poor reasoning and math skills should have been a dead giveaway. Jayjg (talk) 21:58, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the medal and thanks for being so level-headed... --Moritz 09:08, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

HKT article
Witkacy is again trying to insert an extreme minority usage into the article; I'd keep an eye on it if I were you. Jayjg (talk) 22:27, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Well, I've been doing my best, but Witkacy now has his buddy Irishpunktom logrolling for him. If you don't help out, there's not much I can do against two editors determined to insert non-notable minority uses in a disambig page simply as a means of attacking you. Jayjg (talk) 22:39, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm some guys "buddy" because I told him you were gunning for him? Hardly. NPOV dictates that that Stay, after all it is a Disambiguation page, not an entire article. --Irishpunktom\talk 22:45, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

 * Nonsense; disambig pages are only meant to clear up common overlapping uses. HKT was an extremely rare usage. Jayjg (talk)  23:16, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

 * HKT, both Jayjg and Witkacy have agreed that HKT is used as an acronym for the German Eastern Marches Society (Deutscher Ostmarkenverein), however because because it is used by a minority of people Jayjg thinks it should be removed. I really don't see why.  If it is used as an acronym, however rarely, then it is fair that it is put on a Disambiguation page.  It's not as if there is an attempt to suggest that this is the only interpretation of HKT, it is one of several.  If you think that Hakata needs a disam page too, and you are probably right, then yeah, I'll try and get to that as soon as I can. --Irishpunktom\talk 23:08, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

HKT, if you want to NPOV that article, I'm afraid you'll have to get involved, as Witkacy is a determined revert warrior. Jayjg (talk) 23:16, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

I just wanted to tell you guys that I sympathise, I briefly thought about participating in the whole thing, but I just can't deal with this BS anymore, it's too frustrating. (Frankly I don't see how you can bear it.) --Moritz 23:36, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Nosson Slifkin
Regarding his name, please see the discussion at Talk:Natan Slifkin. Jayjg (talk) 23:39, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Your user page
Oh, you're welcome. Wasn't the only thing he vandalised, either. And in addition to that apparently he did some copy-editing. Strange. --Moritz 08:17, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Polish Barnstar
Hi HKT. Well, I gave some thought to it after reading your message and I think you really didn’t mean anything bad. I recalled that e.g. the American flag is often used for various commercial purposes and no one is shocked because of it. I don’t mean that the Americans treat their flag too lightly or the Poles too seriously. Just that these two approaches are different. For Poles national symbols are holy, probably because they were often prohibited. Anyhow, I can see that you're coming from a different place and that you didn’t mean to offend. As I understood that Witkacy was a part of the disagreement, I simply asked him what he thought should be done with it. He proposed to ask Moritz to change the barnstar. I saw that he didn't want to do it by himself as it might be misunderstood and only would add more fuel to the other discussion. He also thought it a better idea than taking it to the Polish board, which would only unnecessarily create a big argument. Well, I’m sure you didn’t expect it to be such a serious matter for us, and you would never do that if you knew it might have involved all of the Polish editors. I asked Moritz by myself then and he agreed. I hope you don’t mind as well and a compromise is reached. --SylwiaS 12:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

VfD
Well, it was certainly not my intention to contribute to an ongoing problem at Wikipedia. I've not been involved in anything quite as rancorous as this VfD. As may be apparent from my comments, I find the tone of many of the delete voters intensely irritating. The last voter called the article "filth"! Filth! In its state at the moment it's downright philosemitic, but it's being dismissed as antisemitic filth! If this is antisemitic filth, then there are a thousand and one Yiddish and Hebrew writers who are more so. I called them panicky ethnocentrists because the voters in the two VfDs are shamelessly ethnocentrist in their behavior ("the Jewish covers a real topic, but the Muslim one is offensive!", and vice versa). But if identifying the behavior as such is a breach of Wikietiquette, then maybe I just better steer clear of topics like this. Babajobu 00:55, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Calling someone paranoid and ethnocentric is a breach of Wikipedia policy. It's not productive; it provides identification of your problems with other editors, but it doesn't address those issues. Perhaps you now feel that continuing to address such issues wouldn't accomplish anything. If so, you're right about steering clear of potentially hot issues. HKT talk 01:08, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

You may want to be aware that User:LokiCT has reverted your additions to the VFD for Religious_persecution_by_Jews See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Religious_persecution_by_Jews&diff=19624298&oldid=19619189 --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€  06:12, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, I prefer to steer clear of any forum where its acceptable to be called an antisemite and a filth-producing racist, but unacceptable to defend yourself against such accusations. Babajobu 01:11, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Duly noted. Babajobu 01:26, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Incivility
I'm a dues-paid member of the Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians (how does one link to metawiki from within wikipedia?). Ambi is the founder and high prophet of the Association of Deletionist Wikipedians. I can't imagine that he found that gentle jibe intimidating or surprising. If he did, I'll go to his talk page and issue a self-flagellating, hat-in-hand apology. Other than that I don't think I've written anything uncivil since we last chatted, as you claim I have (though of course I've been described as meshugane, along with various other gratuitous insults reserved for foaming-at-the-mouth bigots such as myself). Babajobu 17:45, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Comments on Sockpuppetry
I'm not sure whether it'll appease you or not, but I'm not a sock-puppet. I used to be User: ThePeacemaker, but David tempbanned that account because he thought I was a sockpuppet of User: Jeus, since we shared the same IP address. However, I wasn't then, and I'm not now. User: Jeus (as well as a few guys and girls I know) share a wi-fi signal on our flat. He personally got sick of WP, and I think he stopped using it a month ago. I know how to edit/make articles, et.al, because I *already had an account*. I decided to abandon The Peacemaker account so I wouldn't get falsely accused of puppetry again. AFAIK, the account is disabled. So anyway, I'd appreciate it if you could stop attacking me on the Vfd board without even attempting to contact me personally (which you've done now, and I thank you for). LokiCT 18:22, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

I forgot to note in my previous message: I make little edits because I usually don't have the time or desire to create huge mods to articles. In particular, I catch things on the 'current events' page, and try to fill in red links with a primer for an article. WP is a blue-based site, and I can't stand the red-base at all. I don't think it's against the rules to make minor edits, at any rate. Each person contributes in different ways. LokiCT 18:27, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

I guess I should give him some more credit (he was the one who taught me to use WP). Before I registered as TPM, I made quite a few edits anonymously when I was at college. Eventually, peer pressure convinced me to get an actual userid (which I did this summer), instead of signing about with an IP. I'm sorry about the vandalism earlier on the Vfd page -- I was simply irked at what seemed like someone questioning my edits due to my # of contributions. I'm not a newbie at WP, even though my postcount would indicate otherwise. Personally, I wasn't aware that he (Joey, aka Jeus) often did the short edit thing too. I just asked him though, and he said he did. Anyway, I won't remove your comments next time.

Oh, and I copied the language id from another user, because it fit mine. Joey, Alise...everyone that lives on my flat speaks English and various degrees of Spanish, because we all took it in high school. He's not my twin, but I could see how it might look that way.LokiCT 23:34, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Noahide Laws
You might be interested in the current debate going on at Talk:Noahide Laws. Jayjg (talk) 18:22, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Sjakkallle's dictatorial move
Hi HKT: Can you please research and re-open the ridiculous move by User:Sjakkalle. I have sent him this message: Hi Sjak: Kindly explain your math please at Votes for deletion/Religious persecution by Jews: 34 "keeps" is better than 66 "deletes"...the "deletes" had almost DOUBLE the votes and you decide against them? This makes no sense! I will call on others to object to your dictatorial move! IZAK 10:56, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Reopening the VfD

 * Hi, User:Danny has called for the VfD to be re-opened. See Talk:Religious persecution by Jews, please voice your opinion. Thanks, and be well. IZAK 12:20, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

 * If the other is up for VfD, so should this one be. Jayjg (talk) 19:01, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * It was your idea, you should do it; I've done my VfD for the day. ;-) Jayjg (talk) 19:14, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd do it but I have never done one before and I'm not sure of the process.Existentializer 19:50, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

"Haredi": tremble or fear?
HKT: your translation of "haredi" is not more literal, it is simply less accurate in this case. According to the Even-Shoshan dictionary, "hared" means either tremble or fearful. See for example Genesis 27:33 and Shmuel-1 28:5. In these cases, as in the case of Haredi Judaism, translating as "fearful" is more accurate. OwenX 12:16, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, only in a colloquial sense has "chared" come to mean "fear" alone (see, for example, Exodus 18:19, where it clearly means "tremble"). The reason for the colloquial usage is obvious: Frequently, people often tremble out of fear or dread. In fact, the word is commonly used in the context of trembling out of fear. Nothing, including the sources you mentioned, contravenes translating as this word as "tremble." The article already mentions that Haredi means one who trembles out of fear. HKT talk 17:05, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Slave trade
If you have a chance, would you mind taking a look at Slave trade? I believe that User:Heraclius has been involved in a determined attempt to POV the article. Jayjg (talk) 17:33, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Ahmadinejad and Nasrallah photo description
Hi. Thanks for helping keep Mahmoud Ahmadinejad clear of vandalism. BTW, it seems that you have also removed my explanation about why the photo with Nasrallah is related. Was it intentional? roozbeh 15:17, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Hello. Yes, it was intentional. I did it for the following reasons:
 * Mentioning both of them together in that context may imply equivocation of the two personalities and that one is equally innocent/guilty as the other.
 * "Target" implies that they are both innocent (which we obviously can't make a judgement about in the article due to NPOV).
 * There's already a link to the Hezbollah wiki, and interested parties could easily do further reasearch if they are unaware of what Hezbollah is and they are curious about the picture.
 * If clarification is necessary, maybe the sentence could be changed to something like: "Hezbollah is considered a terrorist organization by a number of foreign governments." What do you think? HKT talk 15:29, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe some clarification is necessary, but don't care what kind of. Feel free to explain it using your own wording. roozbeh 15:35, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

VfD you may be interested in
Check out the VfD going on over User:Witkacy/Black Book. Tomer TALK 23:05, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Reply
I'd love to, but I can't, the Wikipedia servers aren't allowing me to edit that 'talk' page or the VfD page anymore. =P Xaa 18:53, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, this may not be a bad thing - I intended that comment to both attempt to speak to Witkacy and to those reading the vote. If it's moved, I'm not certain it will be read at all, and I'm hoping that everyone will benefit from the perspective.  The key point is that people only know he's polish because he said he was.  If he said he was African American and a troll threw the 'N-word' at him, would he have a right to complain despite the fact he's not African-American?  Alledging offense because of a label one applies to oneself in an online environment is highly questionable, to me, and I think it needs to be considered in the voting. Xaa 18:58, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Working on moving it. Should have it in a few minutes. =) Xaa 19:05, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
 * All done. =) It's unfortunate that the situation reached that point in the first place.  And even more unfortunate that Witkacy will likely never accept anything I wrote as having any validity.  I've been online for many years now, and I've learned the same thing that the military learned in WW1 - once trenches have been dug, the war drags on for years without resolution. Xaa 19:21, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

RE: The Ominous Black Book of Polish Doom
I saw you moved the comment thread, and I deleted the remarks I had made. I don't think I have the right to delete the remarks of others, though, and I doubt they will take your hint. =) Xaa 01:15, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Vote for Deletion
Hi, see Votes for deletion/Ritual Decalogue. Thank you. IZAK 09:34, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Censorship of criticism
My point with Jayjg was that there was no personal attack in that anon's paragraph that Jayjg deleted and errantly claimed there was a "personal attack". Also, there was nothing even arguably disruptive to the point of requiring deletion in that paragraph either, "edits" to articles by banned users can be reverted but talk page posts too??? The editor was only subsequently banned, was not banned at the time he made that post was he, how is entire paragraph deletion justified in this case? Do you see the potential for censorship if one editor mistakingly construes a challenge to explain debate inconsistency as a personal attack AND deletes an entire talk page paragraph because of this errant interpretation? As far as the actual issue goes the point is States are required to uphold the rule of law, give people trials, not blow them up from helicopters (injuring innocent bystandards in the process too) regardless of the unsavoriness of the individual. The war on terror should not create more terror itself anywhere. zen master T 17:22, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, rules for userspace are far less rigid than rules for mainspace. Since the IP's edits (wherever they appear) are assumed to be in bad faith, there is more than enough justification for deleting comments. Recently, I posted a polite neutrality reminder on someone's talk page. He subsequently blanked my comments. I didn't pursue the issue; it's his userspace. While I would consider his action inappropriate, it's valid. With this IP's comments, I think blanking is valid and appropriate. As far as your remarks on the terrorist cleric: (1.) Attempting to arrest him would severely endanger the soldiers who would be making the arrest. (2.) He was a hostile and dangerous force operating against the security of the State. It is appropriate to assasinate terrorist entities when arrest is a more dangerous option. (3.) I don't understand why you only call the cleric "unsavory", when he was a known and self-proclaimed hostile and violent entity (hostile and violent against civilians). (4.) How do targeted killings create "more terror"? Terror is created when civilians are targeted, and targeted killings therefore reduce terror. HKT talk 17:50, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

We are not talking about comments on a user's talk page, we are talking about a completely reasonable comment in a talk page discussion. Everything Jayjg claimed about that paragraph he deleted is incorrect. Are you claiming if an editor is subsequently banned everything that editor ever posted to wikipedia can be deleted? Is it possible this anon editor just got frustrated after a while? Is it possible this anon editor had at least one valid criticism? Is it possible Jayjg misinterpreted a challenge to explain apparent inconsistency as a personal attack? As far as the actual issue goes (which is actually irrelevant to Jayjg's apparent censorship) if someone is violating laws of a country you don't send soldiers, you send police, a nation state is required to protect innocent civilians or the state becomes just as guilty of terrorism as the allegedly unsavory individual they were targeting. The state can't ever conclusively claim things about an individual they blow up from a helicopter because nothing was ever proven in a court of law. zen master T 18:10, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Edits made before bans aren't subject to the same protocol. Of course it's possible for the IP to have a credible edit, but he's still not allowed to edit (or post on article discussion pages, if I'm not mistaken). True, he's allowed to post on user talk pages, but it's the user's discretion to delete such posts. By the way, the police aren't equipped to make an arrest of the nature that we're discussing. The cleric had armed guards, and in situations like that where arrests are made, the guards attack the soldiers. Arrests have been made like that in the past, but more people usually die when that's done. Sending police is entirely unfeasible. HKT talk 18:42, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Lack of feasability of arrest is no justification for state sponsored murder from helicopter nor endangering innocent bystanders on the street. Though, the current issue is Jayjg's apparent illegitimate censorship of that criticism. You have no comment or concerns about the possibility of censorship or inaccurate presentation? zen master T 20:10, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I already explained why targeted killings save more lives, accidental civilian deaths notwithstanding. Leaving terrorists alone is a rediculous option, as it only leads to many more civilian deaths. As far as censorship, people can censor their userspace as they choose. I don't understand the problem. HKT talk 20:22, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

You have to actually prove someone is a terrorist in a court of law before a (democratic) state can deprive anyone of life. Claiming that targeted killings save more lives is not proof of anything, and certainly not proof the victim was a "terrorist". If a suspect is actively fleeing arrest then some force might be arguably reasonable, but in this case a rocket attack from a helicopter was obviously a premeditated assassination. Did the executive or judiciary branch of israel order this assassination? The answer to that question should indicate to you its true legality. Also, violence if it's in response to an occupation is arguably justified. A state that commits violence should be thought of no differently than a "terrorist" that commits violence, regardless of the rhetoric or rationalization used to justify it.

Do I assume correctly you are entirely unconcerned with Jayjg's brazen censorship of criticism that appears to point out his inconsistency? zen master T 20:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * (1.) My concern is irrelevant. Anyone who wants to may "brazenly censor" his/her userspace and I'd have no say in the matter. To make a fuss over censorship of userspace when you're not even involved is intrusive. (2.) Democratic means governed according to popular demand. You're misusing the term. A group of homocidal maniacs could theoretically be Democratic. It seems that you are defining Democratic as "whatever conforms to my value system." (3.) If you think that targeting pizza shops and discos is "arguably justified," then I don't think that we're on the same wavelength, and we'd better not waste our time continuing this discussion. Cheers, HKT talk 20:55, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

You are mistaken, Jayjg's brazen censorship occured on the Talk:Israeli terrorism page, not Jayjg's personal talk page. Also, you don't know (with proof) what crimes the specific alleged terrorist may have committed if you just rationalize it away with "it saves lives". If a state feels justified in killing a wheel chair bound person leaving a mosque then in my view it's no surprise someone feels equally justified attacking that state. Is it possible Israel or someone within didn't want the issue of the occupation to come up at that individual's trial so premeditated killing was deemed politically convenient? zen master T 21:11, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. I believe the rule is that he can be reverted on sight (including on articles' talk pages), without justification, so the "personal attack" justification was unnecessary. I don't know why you'd think that Israel is afraid of "the issue of the occupation" coming up at a trial; it comes up everywhere, anyway. In fact, Israel managed to arrest Marwan Barghouti, and there were no problems with "occupation issues." Someone who constantly plots to murder civilians is no less dangerous for being in a wheelchair, and is actually much more dangerous for his armed guards who follow him everywhere, ready to shoot and throw grenades at any Israeli police/soldiers who try to arrest him. And saving lives is hardly a "rationalization." HKT talk 21:28, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

That is no justification for the removal of an entire paragraph from an article talk page. Endangering other civilian lives "to save lives" is an obvious rationalization. States are required not to use "terrorist" tactics or they become "terrorists" themselves. zen master T 21:34, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The term that you're misusing now is "terrorist." Terrorism means targeting civilians in order to terrorize the civilian popoulation in hopes of achieving a political objective. Assasination of clear and present threats (e.g. people working to build a bomb or in the process of giving directions to potential bombers), though the assasination may endanger civilians (depending on the situation), isn't remotely a "terrorist tactic." Frequently, terrorists particularly choose to place themselves among/hide behind civilians in order to make it more likely that their enemies will be blamed with civilian deaths. Deir Yassin is an early case in point. Governments primarily serve to protect their citizens. If saving the lives of many citizens might possibly endanger other civilians, most governments would still take action to protect their citizens. Israel is actually an exception; it tends to focus on house-to-house arrests/combat, despite the severely increased danger to its soldiers, in order to protect civilians. In fact, targeted killings by Israel are fairly rare.
 * You write that a ban is "no justification for the removal of an entire paragraph from an article talk page." That is your opinion, but it apparently contravenes Wikipedia policy. If you wish to do something about this "censorship," I advise you to start on a new policy proposal. HKT talk 22:08, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

In my interpretation, trying to kill any wheel chair bound person on the street (even if they are a "terrorist") with a rocket from a helicopter creates just as much terror as does "terrorism". zen master T 02:25, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

RFA
Thanks for your support for my RFA. It is appreciated. --Briangotts (talk) 17:29, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Disruptive editor
Thanks for making the obvious points. I find responding to certain editors just releases a torrent of repetitive words and arguments, so I usually just give up after a couple of explanations. Jayjg (talk) 20:17, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Passover "disambiguation"
Please take a look at Passover, which someone has decided to make into a "disambiguation" page so that anyone looking for the link to "Passover" on Wikipedia (and there are many areticles with links to it) will now get a Jewish and Christian version/choice. Do you agree to this move and what can be done? As far as I know, Passover is strictly a Jewish holiday and it is most certainly NOT an official Christian holiday AFAIK. Thanks. IZAK 11:54, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Questionable Television categories
Hey HKT (I think I'm just going to call you "Hector" from now on, pending correction)...just a quick note to let you know, I got your message. I'll review it, and see what I think and let you know. Just looking at the names of the categories I can tell already it's probably going to be an uphill battle, since one of them is "Polish"...so likely any discussion will entail a few outspoken individuals completely disregarding WP policy all the while dismissing the legitimacy of wanting to get rid of it with wild claims about how wanting to remove it is further evidence of "Anti-Polonism". It may take me a while to get to it tho, just so you know... The fracas at List of Jews has me kind of tied up right now. Tomer TALK 22:17, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Who is a Jew
Please see the recent edits. Jayjg (talk) 15:52, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

RFA
Have you seen this RFA? Requests for adminship/FeloniousMonk Jayjg <sup style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 16:51, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Disengagement Plan
I agree with making the foreign gov't positions a separate heading, thanks. I had seond thoughs about just putting them in with Opinions, but you had already done it. --Red King 20:04, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Promises, promises...
I try to keep mine so here ya go, new Mike Inez. Peace! Hamster Sandwich 20:09, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

History of anti-Semitism
Please review the edits by Jayjg <sup style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)  03:31, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Good point! I never thought of Molloy. Jayjg <sup style="color:darkgreen;">(talk)  18:48, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Many Thanks
Thanks for supporting my RFA. It couldn't have happened without your effort. FeloniousMonk 18:21, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Al Andalus
If you have a chance, would you mind reviewing the current dispute there, and giving your thoughts? Thx. Jayjg <sup style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 18:52, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Israel disengagement plan
The IP in question is just another Jew obsessed editor who knows little about NPOV, but thinks he knows much about Jews, Israel, AIPAC, etc. Normally their edits can be safely reverted. Regardless, my Talk: page is well watched, and another editor has gotten to it before I had the chance. Jayjg <sup style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 23:33, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

from Talk:Israel unilateral disengagement plan; you said: It's certainly not original research to say that a Palestinian demand for all land demarcated by the 1949 Armistice lines would accordingly become the Bush administrations policy, given that this is undeniably implicit in current administration statements. In any event, while your quotes are more specific and merit primary focus in this article, the necessity remains to clarify that the Bush administration is not satisfied with the disengagement plan alone. Bush and Rice frequently underscore that Israel must concede all land in the West Bank and Gaza (as well as East Jerusalem) according to 1949 Armistice lines. Additionally, the Bush administration continues to demand "meaningful linkages" between the West Bank and Gaza. Earlier statements about major population centers no longer appear relevant, as West Bank cities such as Ariel (2002 pop. ~25,000, including college students) fall outside of Israel's domain according to the 1949 lines. Basically, the administration's position is that the disengagement plan is only sufficient in the context of the Bush administration's current version of the Road Map (an article which itself requires updating).

 * I disagree with your logic, HKT, on the conjunction of [*the US support for agreed final borders*] with [*the Palestinian negotiating position of the 1949 ceasefire lines*] to infer that [*the US policy endorses those lines as borders*]. What is stated now by Abbas & co may not be what is finally agreed. I'd be interested to see any quote where Bush or Rice directly say (never mind underscore) that "Israel must concede all land in the West Bank and Gaza (as well as East Jerusalem) according to 1949 Armistice lines". However there is no denying that the Bush admin, along with everyone bar a few extremists, "is not satisfied with the disengagement plan alone".

 * Cheers, Joffan 23:24, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * "What is stated now by Abbas & co may not be what is finally agreed."
 * This is true. However, if Abbas demands 1949 lines as borders, that will ostensibly be supported by the Bush administration. Demands for "right of return" would not necessarily be supported by the administration.
 * "I'd be interested to see any quote where Bush or Rice directly say (never mind underscore) that "Israel must concede all land in the West Bank and Gaza (as well as East Jerusalem) according to 1949 Armistice lines"."
 * For one, here's a quote that was in the article for the past month:

"...[C]hanges to the 1949 Armistice lines must be mutually agreed to. A viable two-state solution must ensure contiguity of the West Bank, and a state of scattered territories will not work. There must also be meaningful linkages between the West Bank and Gaza. This is the position of the United States today, it will be the position of the United States at the time of final status negotiations."
 * The Bush administration considers the 1949 lines as the appropriate frame of reference for negotiations. The only way the Bush administration would accept less Israeli concessions is if Abbas would do so as well. Therefore, as the article previously stated, a Palestinian demand for concessions to the '49 lines would be accepted by the Bush administration. The administration never "directly" said that Israel must concede all land to the '49 lines; maybe Abbas will spontaneously accept less. ;) The article previously stated as much.
 * "...[T]here is no denying that the Bush admin... "is not satisfied with the disengagement plan alone"."
 * Very well. This should consequently be addressed in the article. P.S. Interesting how you consider millions of people around the world as merely "a few extremists." ;) HKT talk 00:30, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

It sounds like you're happy with your logical inference to extend the Bush Admin's position on this - all I can tell you is that I don't think you have quite a firm enough rock to convince the majority of posters that it's fact rather than speculation. As you say, Abbas may accept less in the process of other bargaining considerations. Since I can't see the Israelis conceding East Jerusalem, the assumption that initial demands will never change means that the problem will not be resolved. Ever. A pretty gloomy point of view.

I think the fact that Bush described this as something that could restart the "road map" shows that they are looking for more to happen from here. PS: who are the "millions around the world" who are satisfied with the disengagement plan alone?

Cheers, Joffan 14:15, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I made no inferences. The following if/then statement is undeniable: If Abbas demands borders at the '49 lines, then Bush will support those borders (if he follows his current policy statements). I did not assume that Abbas would make that demand (though I think it is quite likely, based on precedent, that he will. However, that is irrelevant).
 * We seem to be in agreement that Bush wants more, so I'll assume that we're in agreement that the article should indicate as much.
 * I never said that millions are satisfied with the disengagement alone. However, if you consider any such people extremists, a fortiori that you consider those who don't support any land concessions extremists. There are many millions of the latter (I dare say hundreds of millions). HKT talk 18:32, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Tzadik
Please see the page that I made for Tzadik and my comments to the talk page of chabad regarding ther merging of the section "Relationship between God, the Rebbe and his followers" into Tzadik. Thanks. --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€  04:23, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your recent edit, you made it much more readable! --Eliezer | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€  03:02, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Pilpul
My original definition was correct. Among New Yorker goyischers, the word means 'academic-level pissing contest'. Any quote you can do I can do better. My learnédness is better than your learnédness. A real pilpul splits hairs down to the subatomic level, and brings into play the weak nuclear force: to do a pilpul to the extreme, you have to explain subatomic particles and quantum mechanics.

Anyway, pilpul describes a whole class of wikipedia fights. Unless you really object, I will be updating the article, in that the word is perfect. It's unfortunate that its positive sense has been lost in its transition to English. --FourthAve 06:59, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Al-Andalus
User:Irishpunktom keeps claiming that Al-Andalus was a "haven" for Sufis escaping persecution, but he refuses to provide a proper citation for his claim. I've been asking for one for over a week now, on the Talk: page, with no luck. Do you think you might have more success at eliciting it from him? I'd appreciate oversight from a third party. Jayjg <sup style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 13:58, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Jewish texts
Hello HKT: Someone has tried to create a new "Jewish texts" template and has been pasting it on related pages without any discussion. This is a serious matter and your input is needed ASAP. See Template talk:Jewish texts. Thank you. IZAK 05:23, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Dispute at Israeli West Bank barrier
Would you mind taking a look at a dispute I am having at Israeli West Bank barrier with AladdinSE? For months he has been trying to insert a statement George W. Bush made about the settlements, and linking that the barrier, based on his theory that the barrier creates "facts on the ground" affecting permanent border negotiations. As I'm sure you're aware, Bush has recently made clear the U.S. government's official position, that the 1949 Armistice lines are the basis of any future negotiations, and that both parties must agree to changes, thus making nonsense of AladdinSE's theory. Please see the Talk:Israeli West Bank barrier section for the details. Thanks. Jayjg <sup style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 15:21, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps you could comment there yourself as well, the more voices in the debate the better the outcome. Jayjg <sup style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 02:30, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I really have to get the hang of this political side of Wikipedia. To collude with other friendly and like-minded editors to overwhelm opposing editors. Very effective, I'm sure. --AladdinSE 10:09, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was DELETE. IceKarmaॐ 03:43, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

FJF

 * 1) Google search results for "FunnyJunk Forums" — 10 hits
 * 2) Google search results for "FunnyJunk Forum" — 31 hits

Delete. — Ringbang 21:59, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * This afd nomination was orphaned. Listing now.  Delete, forum vanity.  Alexa rank 3,999,251 for the forum being advertised. —Cryptic (talk) 11:05, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn. — Phil Welch 03:17, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ridiculously non-notable. / Peter Isotalo 13:06, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete of course, per above. Friday (talk) 14:53, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:Kimya Dawson

Soundtrack Work
The following portion of the soundtrack work section is completely out of sync with the rest of the paragraph in which it appears. It appears to have been thrown in randomly and reduces the overall quality of the section. Someone invested in making the page better should rewrite this portion, moving the following section to somewhere more appropriate, or removing it altogether:

 * Dawson sings about diverse topics:

And there on the soundtrack ... is Kimya Dawson, her primal, primitive odes to tire swings and vampires and roller coasters goosing us along, her wobbly voice and furtively chicken-scratched double-time guitar like a terrified little kid who just ditched the training wheels and is now somehow barreling down a mountain. —Rob Harvilla, The Village Voice, 2008[7] Brakoholic (talk) 17:17, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

This comment also grossly out of place:

 * Dawson's authentic persona, sometimes compared to indie folk artists such as Quinn Marston,[8] has a demeanor which is "sheepish and guileless and awkward in a way that you really can't fake" and who sometimes looks "legitimately terrified" during performances, according to Village Voice music critic Rob Harvilla.[7]

Brakoholic (talk) 17:29, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Of what year?

 * "Dawson has two new songs that were released on April 8 on a follow-up album Juno B-Sides: Almost Adopted Songs that is available exclusively on iTunes.[3]"Brakoholic (talk) 17:30, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Freebird tattoo
What is a "freebird tattoo"? Does this mean lyrics to the Lynyrd Skynyrd song? Or a bird with the Confederate Flag on it? I don't think you can just say "she has a freebird tattoo" and expect people to know what you mean. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.144.252 (talk) 01:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

 * Agreed. David Spector (talk) 17:00, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Death
As she was flying to Mexico for a vacation a bomb was planted and the bomb went off killing her and her band. <<< I removed the info about her dying May 23, 2008, whatever idiot posted that needs to get a life.

Murder Ball
I think one of her songs, or a 	Moldy Peaches song is featured in the documentary Murder Ball. Can anyone confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.56.64.138 (talk) 14:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Biography assessment rating comment
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Discussion

 * If somebody could work on an extensive history section (to go in between the main description and discography), that would really help. Also, albums by herself and ones by The Moldy Peaches (as well as the Peaches' page itself) need to be created or need some work. I might do these myself, but again, some help would be appreciated. -Nathew
 * I'm 99% sure Panda is her second child, unless Ange is not actually her own? Based on her lj, that is.
 * Ange is her husband. 69.198.146.144 03:55, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

It's Kim-yer. Not that it's at all relevant to this page...
 * So, um, how do your pronounce Kimya?

Race?
The categories at the bottom list her as an African American and a "black rock musician"... I thought Kimya was white? 74.214.106.68 08:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I believe she's mixed race. Wwwhatsup 09:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably about 1/4 black, although her brother's middle name 'Junglefoot' makes me wonder if there's some Native American as well. --MartinUK (talk) 13:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

 * I would like to point out that Native American's have nothing to do with jungles. 24.81.11.152 (talk)Tristan —Preceding undated comment was added at 04:29, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I would like to point out that if one counts all natives of the Americas, including those of the Southern Hemisphere, as one definitely should, that many, many Native Americans most certainly have plenty to do with the jungle, most notably the Amazon. However, this fact should not detract from the obvious stupidity contained within the original comment to which Tristan responded.Brakoholic (talk) 17:24, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

 * I would like to point out to everyone that Kimiya is a popular female Persian name. The word is in fact where the Arabic word ‘alchemy’ is derived from. (link). So she’s probably half Iranian.Nightryder84 (talk) 07:32, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Fabio
I've resisted the temptation to revert the change from 'friend' to 'cousin' on the basis that iMDB is not a legit source for wikipedia. However I'd like to see a better source if we can come up with one. Wwwhatsup 09:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

 * An anonymous editor called this 'a joke' today. That was promptly removed by another anon editor. I've gone ahead and removed the sentence: Chris Barron of the '90s band Spin Doctors co-wrote and sang a Moldy Peaches song, and her cousin Fabrizio Moretti   Neither are Kimya-specific but refer more to the Moldy Peaches anyway. Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:57, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I heard she was part Brazilian, so her being related to Fabrizio Moretti is not that farfetched (he's half Brazilian) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.4.41.3 (talk) 21:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Third Eye Blind
I've removed the phrase ''She appears in the band's music video for the song "Blinded". '' According to Third Eye Blind no videos was made for the song - perhaps it means just by the label? Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Birthplace
Anyone know where she was born and grew up? The article only mentions NY as a sometimes residence. --82.194.62.227 (talk) 19:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

State of the article
After nursing this article for a bit a year or so ago and then leaving it alone I'm disappointed to see that it's probably worse off now than it was then. The pic's gone, the career info is almost non-existent. And the CDR pre-release version of Alphabutt is given more importance than the released version. Come on people! Wwwhatsup (talk) 22:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I've moved and edited Alphabutt - could someone check track listings / release date etc? Also added an infobox. Wwwhatsup (talk) 23:24, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Unmade Beds
The independent film Unmade Beds contains the Dawson song "I'm Fine." http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0997263/soundtrack —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.68.232 (talk) 05:54, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

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Su-Li Kim
Delete Hardly needs an individual page PhilipO 22:00, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn DV8 2XL 22:42, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge somewhere, necessary to comprehensive coverage of Slayers. Kappa 00:33, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mentioned in one episode? I can probably imagine something of less use if I try, but I'd be hard pressed. Non-encyclopedic, non-notable and non-interesting. -Splash 00:36, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was DELETE. -Splash 22:19, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Mezzi
Non-notable company. No assertion of notability. This is simply an ad. Tonywalton | Talk 22:01, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

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