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Small Is Beautiful

Small Is Beautiful: A Study of Economics As If People Mattered is a collection of essays published in 1973 by German-born British economist E. F. Schumacher. The title "Small Is Beautiful" came from a principle espoused by Schumacher's teacher Leopold Kohr (1909–1994) advancing small, appropriate technologies, policies, and polities as a superior alternative to the mainstream ethos of "bigger is better".

Overlapping environmental, social, and economic forces such as the 1973 energy crisis and popularisation of the concept of globalisation helped bring Schumacher's Small Is Beautiful critiques of mainstream economics to a wider audience during the 1970s. In 1995 The Times Literary Supplement ranked Small Is Beautiful among the 100 most influential books published since World War II. A further edition with commentaries was published in 1999.

Honoring the 50th anniversary of Small is Beautiful in 2023, the Schumacher Center for a New Economics commissioned an updated study guide from British author and Journalist David Boyle.

Synopsis
Small Is Beautiful is divided into four parts: "The Modern World", "Resources", "The Third World", and "Organization and Ownership".
 * Part I – summarizes the economic world of the early 1970s from Schumacher's perspective. In the first chapter, "The Problem of Production", Schumacher argues that the modern economy is unsustainable. Natural resources (like fossil fuels), are treated as expendable income, when in fact they should be treated as capital, since they are not renewable, and thus subject to eventual depletion. He further argues that nature's resistance to pollution is limited as well. He concludes that government effort must be concentrated on sustainable development, because relatively minor improvements, for example, technology transfer to Third World countries, will not solve the underlying problem of an unsustainable economy. Schumacher's philosophy is one of "enoughness", appreciating both human needs and limitations, and appropriate use of technology. It grew out of his study of village-based economics, which he later termed Buddhist economics, which is the subject of the book's fourth chapter.
 * Part II – casts Education as the greatest resource, and discusses Land, Industry, Nuclear Energy and the human impact of Technology.
 * Part III – discusses the gap between the center of the World System and the developing world as it existed then, with a focus on village culture and unemployment in India.
 * Part IV – presents a sketch of a Theory of Large Scale Organization, takes issue with platitudes about capitalism as a social order and discusses alternatives. Chapter 3 of this part concludes with advice to socialists:

"'Socialists should insist on using the nationalised industries not simply to out-capitalise the capitalists – an attempt in which they may or may not succeed – but to evolve a more democratic and dignified system of industrial administration, a more humane employment of machinery, and a more intelligent utilization of the fruits of human ingenuity and effort. If they can do this, they have the future in their hands. If they cannot, they have nothing to offer that is worthy of the sweat of free-born men.' (Part IV, Chapter 3 'Socialism')"

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Metropolitan Community Church of Toronto

The Metropolitan Community Church of Toronto is a congregation of the worldwide Metropolitan Community Church movement located in Toronto, Ontario, Canada and is a welcoming congregation openly affirming lesbian, gay, bisexual, heterosexual and transgender people. MCC Toronto was instrumental in changing the law on same sex marriage in Ontario, when two same-sex marriage ceremonies performed at the church on January 14, 2001 initiated the process leading to the Halpern v Canada (AG) decision of 2003.

MCC Toronto is now the largest Metropolitan Community Church congregation in terms of membership. On Christmas Eve and during Pride Toronto, the church holds services at special venues, as the popularity of the events exceed's the church building's capacity. The Christmas service is held at Roy Thomson Hall, while the Pride service is held on Church Street in the heart of the Church and Wellesley village.

History
In 1973, a group of individuals wrote to the head office of the Metropolitan Community Church in Los Angeles requesting that they send someone to Toronto to start a new church. In July 1973, Rev. Bob Wolfe arrived in the city and the first worship service was held with 12 people on July 17, 1973. Rev. Wolfe, who died in July 2005, worked hard to establish the new congregation. He became best known for talking a suicidal young gay man down from the roof of Toronto City Hall, and used the ceremony where he was honoured by the city to lambaste politicians for failing to reform anti-gay laws.

In the early years, worship services were held at the Church of the Holy Trinity.

In 1978, Rev. Brent Hawkes succeeded Rev. Wolfe as pastor.

In 1985, the church bought its first church building, at 2029 Gerrard Street East. This was the first property owned in Canada by a lesbian and gay organization.

Responding to the AIDS crisis, MCC Toronto hired a full-time person to co-ordinate its AIDSCARE program in 1990. Since then its volunteers have provided home hospice care for hundreds of individuals. MCC Toronto have facilitated support groups for HIV, AIDS and other health issues. In 1997, the Church expanded the AIDSCARE program to CommunityCARE and now provides support for clients with a range of illnesses and requirements.

In 1991, the church moved to its present location at 115 Simpson Avenue, a building that had been occupied by Simpson Avenue United Church.

In 2011, the church received a $1 million donation from philanthropists Margaret and Wallace McCain, the largest single donation ever received by an MCC congregation in the world.

While the church has not held any state funerals, Rev. Hawkes was the officiant at the state funeral of Jack Layton at Roy Thomson Hall on August 27, 2011.

On July 9, 2017, voting members of the congregation voted to elect Rev. Jeff Rock as new senior pastor. Rock took over the congregation as of October 1, following Hawkes's retirement.

In January, 2024, Rev. Deana Dudley was installed as MCC Toronto's fifth senior pastor. Dudley had previously served as pastor of Christos MCC in Toronto and the MCC congregation in London, Ontario. She joined MCC Toronto's staff as assistant pastor in 2009.

LGBT issues
MCC Toronto has assisted with the founding of other gay and lesbian groups. It helped organize the first PFLAG meeting and paid for the telephone line in their first year of operation. The church has provided office space for various community groups, such as the Toronto Counselling Centre for Lesbians and Gays, Lesbian & Gay Youth Toronto, and the Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights in Ontario.

The MCC was also the first organization ever to organize a parade float in Toronto's Pride parade.

The congregation has continually supported equality for sexual minorities. This support has included significant legislation: in 1986, they supported Bill 7, adding sexual orientation to the Ontario Human Rights Code; in 1994, they supported Bill 167, which would have changed the definition of "spouse" in Ontario; in 1996, there were intervenors in the Supreme Court of Canada case of Egan v Canada in the constitutional question of same-sex spousal recognition under the Old Age Security Act, which resulted in rights of gay and lesbian couples being recognized and sexual orientation being read into the Charter of Rights and Freedoms; in 1999, Rev. Hawkes testified in M. v. H. on spousal support provisions in family law, which held that same-sex couples receive equitable treatment under the constitution.

In the fall of 2000, MCC Toronto began working for the legalization of same-sex marriage in Canada. The church's lawyers developed a strategy that was built on a combination of the Ontario Marriage Act and the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. On January 14, 2001, Rev. Hawkes married two same-sex couples but the Registrar General of Ontario refused to register the marriage documents. The church took the provincial government to court and the case was heard in November 2001. The decision was ultimately in the church's favour, although not until the Netherlands and Belgium legalized same-sex marriage.

Hawkes served as the grand marshal of the WorldPride parade in 2014.

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Information technology consulting

In management, information technology consulting (also called IT consulting, computer consultancy, business and technology services, computing consultancy, technology consulting, and IT advisory) is a field of activity which focuses on advising organizations on how best to use information technology (IT) in achieving their business objectives, but it can also refer more generally to IT outsourcing.

Once a business owner defines the needs to take a business to the next level, a decision maker will define the scope, cost and the time frame of the project. The role of the IT consultancy company is to support and nurture the company from the very beginning of the project until the end, and deliver the project not only in the scope, time and cost but also with complete customer satisfaction.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ionwë Andaer

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The result of the debate was delete. · Katefan0(scribble) 19:46, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Ionwë Andaer
This article is about a fan-made original character, and has nothing to do with Tolkien canon, nor with any popular fanfiction.

Delete please. It isn't Tolkien - just an egotistical fanfiction author. 86.136.86.221 21:00, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * This nom was malformed and never added to a main VfD page. Fixing now.  Delete, vanity.  JYolkowski // talk 18:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I just took a -2 CHR penalty from reading that article and understanding it. Hoax, vanity. Nandesuka 19:43, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * This page was created by User:Ionwë Andaer so I humbly suggest we move it to their userpage. Otherwise, delete Ashibaka (tock) 00:05, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
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I created a Christian apologetics area. I thought it would be helpful. It has precedence as there is a Mormon apologetics subject area. It needs to be Wikied up and made to look nicer. Also, please add content.

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--- Contrary to Tibetan biographies written about him, Shantideva became a king in southeastern Bangladesh, which has been shown through archaeological discoveries that record him not only as the first in a line of "Deva" kings who recognized the Bodhisattva ideal as the highest Dharma (or truth).

I am confused. Are Tibetan biographies contrary to the idea of Shantideva recognizing the Bodhisattva ideal as truth? What does Tibetan biographies say that is contrary? This should be provided on page.

I don't claim to know too much about Shantideva history, not very concerned with it. I came here to learn more, and was confused by the statement about being "contrary to Tibetan". What are these discoveries, what do they show that is contrary? All this needs to be made more clear or just taken off, as it is it does not seem to be that informative.

Thank you for you time, and all the best.

Clavio

Contrary... Bangladeshi King
I deleted this para, because it's the first time heard it, and there's no citation or anything. And I've just been through the newbie's guide to NPOV (heavy going), and I think it's inappropriate to be saying "contrary to X's view", without saying what X's view is. ---MrDemeanour 00:24, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

The "contrary to Tibetan..." is in reference to the Tibetan claim that Acharya Shantideva declined to succeed his father as a ruler, when he actually predates the establishment of the Deva dynasty (beginning with the Shantideva associated with Nalanda University) --- in other words one shouldn't put the cart infront of the horse, no sooner than a tradition withstands historical fact.

Dharmakara (talk) 18:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

External links removed because "controversial"
On 13 March 2007 196.44.16.10 removed external links with the note "removed controversial external link".

I'm not sure that "controversial" is in and of itself a sufficient reason to delete external links. I'm going to archive them here in case we decide that they should be restored. -- Thanks Writtenonsand 15:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Engaging in Bodhisattva Behavior, full unpublished translation of the Bodhicaryavatara by Alexander Berzin
 * Commentary to Bodhicaryavatara by Patrul Rinpoche (in English )
 * Popular Quotations from Shantideva's Bodhicaryāvatāra
 * Guide to the Bodhisattva's Way of Life (Tharpa Publications)
 * Meaningful to Behold (Tharpa Publications: commentary to GBWL)

Prasangika
Why do we think he was a prasangika? That term was invented by the Tibetans 300 years later, so he certainly didn't describe himself in that way. I'm sure this claim is somewhat controversial. Anyone have some citations about that? -Owlmonkey (talk) 23:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it's quite fair to say he was a "madhyamaka" but trying to pin him down between the later prasangika and svatantrika distinction is I would guess up for discussion. Most of his famous book for example are relative teachings about the path not on the dissolution of views. - Owlmonkey (talk) 23:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This is an old, old comment. But I would probably argue that he was a Prasangika as Tibetans understand the word. His ideas and approaches are far more in line with Buddhapalita/Candrakīrti than they are with Bhāvaviveka - while he certainly does not shy from rhetoric, he is certainly familiar with reductio arguments throughout his works.

 * I'm not saying that therefore he is a Prasangika. I would argue that almost all Indian Madhyamaka is 'Prasangika', though some contemporary (for Śāntideva) developments gave rise to Yogacarya-Madhyamaka, and Śāntideva was certainly not a part of that movement. So, from a Tibetan point of view (and in a descriptive manner only) one could argue that, as a student of (or inspired by) Candrakīrti and Buddhapalita, then Śāntideva could be classified as Prasangika.

 * Also, while Candrakīrti would not have called himself Prasangika, the term was invented to indicate Madhymaka views that are 'in accordance with Candrakīrti' - and in this sense, I believe that (if one has to put everyone into a basket) it is fair to suggest that Śāntideva was Prasankiga. (20040302 (talk) 02:59, 1 January 2024 (UTC))

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Utilitarianisn
"Shantideva was an advocate of utilitarianism" I think statements like this are a little out of context. What do you think? Cuginopiu (talk) 10:55, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

 * Utilitarianism was invented a good millenium after Shantideva's death. If he advocated Utilitarianism, then his advocacy must be on record; so cite please. MrDemeanour (talk) 12:23, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

 * I reviewed the source, which does not support the claim that Santideva advocated utilitarianism, a philosophy he had never heard of. Instead, the source refers to "similarities". So I deleted the claim.

 * It is argued in the source that Santideva's views were "utilitarian", because he advocated the relief of suffering for all beings. That is not Utilitarianism, which advocates the greatest happiness for the greatest number. Santideva had no such wishy-washy views; the aim of a bodhisattva is to relieve all suffering (mainly by accelerating the enlightenment of all beings, i.e. by teaching). MrDemeanour (talk) 12:47, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

 * Santideva was a Buddhist; he subscribed to the view that killing was forbidden (or rather, "unskillful"). Utilitarianism argues for the greatest good for the greatest number, a position that allows killing for the greater good of society. That is a direct contradiction between utilitarianism and Santideva's (mainstream Mahayana) view (Santideva would actually have acknowledged that killing was permissible, but that the killer still had to bear the karmic consequences of killing).

 * Santideva urges people to consider that in future lives they may be reborn as disadvantaged beings, and that they should adapt their views and actions to take that into account. This is a mainstream Mahayana practice, it wasn't invented by Santideva. In that respect, he was foreshadowing the arguments of John Rawls, in "A Theory of Justice". Rawls was not a utilitarian; his arguments were an attack on utilitarianism.

 * So you could argue that Santideva was a liberal, I suppose. But IMO that would be equally wrong. Santideva's arguments were not meant to describe a sensible way of organising society; they were instrumental. The practices were intended to bring the practitioner closer to bodhisattvahood and enlightenment, not to fix the world. Santideva believed in a samsara that couldn't be fixed, and had to be escaped from. Political postures such as utilitarianism and liberalism are purportedly ways to "fix" samsara, and are far from Santideva's position.

 * I'm not going to edit this article again for a while, because I don't edit-war, and I can't be bothered dealing with editors with a bee in their bonnet. This article is not a suitable platform for arguments about modern, western political philosophy (yes, Mill is classed as a "modern" philosopher). I'll again try to improve the article once it's clear to me that the bee-in-a-bonnet brigade have moved on.

MrDemeanour (talk) 08:21, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Personal Identity and free will
There is a lot about this section which was erroneous, and somewhat misleading. No Buddhism - certainly neither Buddha nor Śāntideva – suggested that self is an illusion. Śāntideva was a Madhyamaka and the definition of anatman must be understood from such a position in this context. As to whether or not Buddha originally taught anatman in the same mode as Nagarjuna - certainly there is no consensus.

Moreover the basic object of negation (what it is that anatman refutes) is not merely 'illusory' - it's recognised in Buddhism as being the root cause of all suffering, a direct cause of clinging and aversion - basically it's toxic. And none of this is specific to Śāntideva. It's Buddhism 101: The second noble truth.

Meanwhile Goodman's idea that Śāntideva talks about 'free will' (as, I guess, is understood in western philosophy - as free will isn't a topic in traditional Buddhism), is very confused IMO. Sure, Goodman got a book published - but 'free will' discussions depend upon western ideas about the nature of self and identity which do not bode well as a hermeneutic backdrop for understanding Śāntideva. One may as well suggest that Heisenberg is referring to free will in his discussions on uncertainty. I'm sure that some people would like to say that too. Similar to Heisenberg, one might indeed find some interesting ideas from Pratītyasamutpāda that entail challenges to naive approaches to free will - but I would argue that this is much more like "free will" philosophers being informed by (or provoked by) such texts, rather than the texts talking about free will.

My amends are at least more or less concordant - however, I'm not convinced by the section at all. (20040302 (talk) 02:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC))

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Syriacs
Hey Benne. You will notice, however, that Aramaeans is completely unsourced, and thus the connection cannot be verified. Perhaps you could add references to that section? Thanks for the link to the Syriac Universal Alliance by the way. That is one source that could possibly be used. I was actually looking for more academic ones however. Khoikhoi 04:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

 * (I reposted this post from the "Assyrian people" discussion page - sorry, I wasn't sure if you would check it anytime soon) Benne, I know where you stand on this whole identity issue, but please be mindful to the possibility that Ashuraya and Suryaya are synonymous terms. I can direct you to several scholarly sources if you wish. Here's a report by AINA (Assyrian International News Agency) - which I DON'T trust completely because AINA is often biased - but they make reference to a very important archeological find in Turkey, published in the Journal of Near Eastern Studies. http://www.aina.org/ata/20070218144107.htm
 * Again, do not pay so much attention to the opinions in the article, because I'm sure you will not agree with them right away (I myself found it to be a little bit biased, but with a good cause). I think I have a copy of the journal article lying around somewhere, so if you like I can send you a copy. Basically, they found a bilingual inscription (in Luwian, an ancient Anatolian language, and Phoenician) in which an Anatolian king makes reference to the Assyrians as "Sur" in the Luwian language, and "Assur" in Phoenician. Check it out and let me know what you think, ahono.Šarukinu 14:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Sébastien de Courtois
Thanks for the correction; I wasn't the one who originally added the sources, I just noticed that they were there. What about the other source? (David Gaunt) Khoikhoi 06:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

 * It is your opinion that Encyclopaedia of the Orient is not reliable. It is not an "Assyrianist properganda" because its not an Assyrian website. Show me a handful of mods that believe the info from this website should not be used as sources in wikipedia, then come to an conclusion that it is not a neutral source. Chaldean 15:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Show me where does wikipedia says Encyclopaedia of the Orient should not be used as a reliable source. Chaldean 15:23, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Well I and the rest of the Assyrian nation consider your work here the upmost slander and disrespect to our community. Correct your behavior, please. Chaldean 15:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

 * but they may be used so long as the encyclopedia is a high quality one.  Chaldean 15:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

 * The author promoted the book as "the last Assyrians" in various Assyrian editorials and magazines. The book might have two versions, I dont know. Benne, I will get back to you after I get out of class. I will continue adding refs to Assyrian people page. Chaldean 15:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Reply
Well, according to WP:V, it's our job to say what the sources say. So, if you have Sébastien de Courtois' book, you are more than welcome to add information from it. As for Assyrian people, you can add verify source to some of the references if you want. However, I consider the Encyclopaedia of the Orient to be a reliable source. It's not a Wikipedia mirror, although many articles use it in Wikipedia (such as Elazığ and Artvin Province). Is this your main concern at the moment? If it is, I'm sure there are tons of other sources out there that can give the same information. Try leaving some comments on the talk page. Khoikhoi 18:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

 * I am the last person to care if you believe it or not. I observed this in a couple Google/Gmail groups. I dont know how much thruthiness their is to it, but I thought you should know about it. Chaldean 06:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I guess you're right about the Encyclopaedia of the Orient. Perhaps better sources can be found (via Google Scholar or some place else). Khoikhoi 08:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Good idea (even thou the Assyrians in Iraq is a very bad article right now.) Chaldean 16:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Akhh, I just remembered. [] - I nominated it yesterday for a did you know. Dont know what to do now. Chaldean 16:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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Replaced loanwords
Hi. I've made some corrections & left a few comments at Talk:List of replaced loanwords in Turkish. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 11:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi benne

Hope you are good. I have set up a wiki se following link:

http://www.mardaites.com/sdi/index.php?title=Main_Page

please visit it if you are interested.

It is a new site and not much information yet. And only invited authors can write articles in it so it will have good quality.

best regards Suryoyo // Michael email: suryoyo@kth.se

The Syro-Aramaic Reading Of The Qur'an
Hi. The thing I wrote on "The Syro-Aramaic Reading Of The Qur'an" was referenced, first with the quote from a known translation of the Qur'an, and second Lane's Arabic-English Lexicon. What more do I need to do? Abdassamad 18:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Sun Myung Moon
Hi Benne. You are correct that the "Reverend" before his name is an honorary title used by members of his church. The same could be said about the titles used by almost any organization. I'm not sure what the standard for that here is on WP. I had understood that the title should be used in the first mention of the person's name and then just the family name. I don't consider it such a big thing. He really doesn't need the title. Wishing you well. Steve Dufour 16:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject_Council/Proposals
I'd be honoured to participate in the project, Benne! And I think I also know some more users who might be also interested in joining. BTW; thanks for helping my and the Ygo Youkes Galama-article; you are right and it doesn't need deletion, just a lot of improving! -)-(-H- (|-|) -O-)-(- 10:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Assyrians
The truth hurts, doesn't it? :) Face it, the Syriacs are simply Assyrians. No need to start a fuss about this like you always do. — EliasAlucard|Talk 10:46 02 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
 * per WP:ENC, the WP:TRUTH should not only not hurt, it should be irrelevant. We are looking for notable opinions, not "truth". I wish you could stop this habit of quoting huge portions of text in your footnotes Elias: it's needlessly tiresome, not to mention copyright concerns. Don't quote excessively, no matter whether it's the article body or a footnote. You (Elias) obviously feel too strongly about this topic, and should let neutral editors do the job. dab (𒁳) 14:13, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Benne, you haven't begun on a unification page yet. Still waiting khon. Chaldean 13:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Aramaean people
Shlama Benne, Yes we could just pick out some few stuff to History headline or Orgin headline. but we should not just add a few setence about the present day Aramaens wich include alot of reliigous divided people. like the "Assyrians" they have a assyrian people and acient assyrians. we could do the same just place (Acient) within the Aramaeans article. thanks. Nochi 13:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Merkez Jupa/Centar Župa
Why you moving article to Turkish name? Official language of the country is Macedonian and names of all other municipalities in all countries are given in official language. Why you think that this one should be exception? 81.18.57.3 19:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is in Turkish but only in addition to Macedonian. In Macedonia, languages of minorities that make up more than 20% of population of municipalities are also official in that municipality, but only in addition to Macedonian, which still remain the main official language in every municipality. Please move article names back to their original title. 81.18.57.3 20:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Greetings
Shlama, I see that u speak aramaic. I am not hre to argue anything, I have only left this message to say hi and just get to know you. I am a lover of knowledge and am very interested in what ethnicity you are. From the looks of it, some Assyrian wikipedians believe you are an Assyrian, but it appears that you relate with Aramaic.

So, what do u consider urself to be? I ma very curious, because I like to know about peoples who have lived to this day. Also, what religion, culture, background etc. I am an Assyrian Catholic of Iraqi background.

Nice to talk to you,

Regards,

Tourskin 06:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Alright fine. I do not discriminate between people for their religion or culture, but ofcourse, it is pleasing to be able to relate to someone of a similar background. Goodbye then!Tourskin 17:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

About Syriacs?
Hi Benne,
 * I was always curious aboout the Mesoptamians ancient history. I really want to know about the Syriacs without the confusion?
 * Do you simply believe in what is in the website Aramnahrin.org?
 * Well, a lot of information presented on the website sounds very convincing. It proves that throughout the history of the Syriacs, the people have identified themselves with the ancient Aramaeans.

 * Are the Greeks the first people to refer to Assyria as Syria? (The Semites of the south refered to it as the north) (Yeman and Sham are the modern Arab terms for South and North). Is Syria a Greek name?
 * I am not sure they referred to Assyria as Syria. I believe the two names are different from one another. See e.g. Assyria (Roman province) vs. Syria (Roman province)..--Benne 20:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Ok so the Romans distinguished Syria from Assyria?
 * Did the Greeks confuse the Romans? by the wetsern part of the former Assyrian empire Syria?
 * Are the modern Arameans (I read about in Europe) Christians or Muslims (the guys name is muslim?) or simply secular?--Skatewalk 18:10, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Syriac words

 * I am not sure I understand your question. I believe Arabic is heavily influenced by Syriac Aramaic; words like الله Allāh (ܐܠܗܐ Alāhā), قرآن Qur’ān (ܩܪܝܢܐ qeryānā), and صوم ṣawm (ܨܘܡܐ ṣawmā), are Syriac in origin.--Benne 20:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

 * The words are also identical to North Arabic (Aramiac usually adds an A) as many localities in the South stops with (sikoonn) for example :
 * Kadash(South Arabian), Kadasha (Syriac), Kuds(Arabic)
 * Marad (South Arabian), Marada (Syriac), Mutamaridin (Arabic)
 * Kitab (South Arabian), Kitaba (Syriac), Kitab (Arabic)

and words that changed the use of it:
 * Darom in south Arabian meant (Heel) or (Bottom)
 * Darom in Hebrew means (South)
 * Daroma in Syriac means (South)?
 * Darom still used in some colliqual Arabic dialects, but not in Standard.
 * This is not surprising to me, sense Syriac is closely related to the Western and SouthWestern Semitic languages.
 * Amorite itself is very similar to North Arabian. However, I will not rule out the prophet being influenced by the Syriac dialects from his travel in Syria. (at that time, the difference between Hijazi and Syriac was not as distant as now). I read the Quran, and its divided into Meccan and Medina verses, I always felt the Meccan verses more influenced by Northern Arabian and the Medina by South Arabian (maybe because the Medina Muslims spoke South Arabian)--Skatewalk 17:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have any source that those words are Syriac in origin? They're more likely to be cognates of El. — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 04:32, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello?
Can you please answr my question?!
 * Are the NON (Arab or Phoenician) portion of the Maronites considered Assyrians? Elias links both of them to Syriac (the church language), I don't want to argue with him on something he might be right about. Can you show me links besides the (Aramnahrin) because that website claims that Assyrians are also Arameans?--Skatewalk 05:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not very familiar with the Maronites, but I don't believe they are Assyrians, neither do I believe they are Arabs. The Maronites do form part of Syriac Christianity, though. Syriac is still used as a liturgical language. You might want to be interested in the Urhoy website. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 09:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Syriac is the liturgical for Maronites (a religion). The mjority of the Maronites are Syrians? (Siryani in Arabi)? However some are ethnic Arabs who identify as Arabs for example (Al-Mashrouki tribe) many Maronites families come from them. and some claim lineage to the Ghassanids, also many modern Lebanese (regardless of religion) simply claim a Phoenician ethnicity. --Skatewalk 17:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Benne,

You're not helping nor is Elias...
Listen, Aramaean, Assyrian, Syriac, Chaldean are all accepted names [not by all of course] for the SAME PEOPLE. The fact of the matter is that we refer to ourselves as "Sourayeh/Souroyeh" in Neo-Syriac/Aramaic which would be translated as "Syrian" and historically was but due to the modern "Arab" state of Syria; Syriac and Assyrian are used in place. Syria and Assyria have common origination according to documented history and professors such as Frye, Nelson. Syria historically refers to the western territories of the Assyrian empire aka Aram and Canaan which would equate to modern day states of Israel, Lebanon, and Syria where if we were to equate modern Assyria with a nation it would be "Iraqi-Kurdistan" where most Iraqi Chaldeans and Assyrians originate from the Nineveh plains. None of these terms are incorrect however Syrian would be used today if not for the nation of "Arab" Syria. The fact is in Syriac we don't say Kaldaya, Aramaya, or Aturaya, maybe in religious contexts or political ones people may say it but everyone regardless of village says Sourayeh which means Syrian and it is used similarly to Armenian or Greek, which may also imply Christian and where Kurd, Turk, or Arab would imply Muslim. Assyrian ancestory isn't a pipe-dream nor is Aramean though less slightly is Chaldean though still not impossible. Towards the latter days of the Assyrian empire Arameans had pretty much Aramaicized much of the near east and with that also become systemized by Assyrian rule hence becoming nationlized in a sense as Assyrians. Assyria was more of a nationality than an ethnicity composed of many different people that had been conquered by the armies of the Assyrian empire. Think of it as an ancient form of America. There are Americans of every origin which I'm not claiming was the case for Assyira but someowhat similar to it. Sharru Kinnu III 17:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sharru, we are descendants of many different ethnic groups, such as Assyrians, Aramaeans, Amorites, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Sumerians, Elamites, Phoenicians and also some Jews. But most of all, Assyrians. We are not racially pure in that sense, but we are more or less Assyrians. How can you say I'm not helping? — EliasAlucard|Talk 20:01 17 Oct, 2007 (UTC)
 * I mean the bickering going on between you two isn't helping. Sharru Kinnu III 12:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I mean with your constant bickering with one another. Sharru Kinnu III 12:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello there
Hey there Benne! I hope you're doing fine. I just wanted to tell that even though things always have not been clear between us I would like to thank you about your participation within the Syriac (Assyrian/Aramean/Chaldean) people. --Yohanun 22:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)ܦܘܫ ܒܫܠܡܠܐ

Tawdi lokh ahuno, ono-ste towo-no. The problem with our people is that the religion comes before the nationalism, we need to realise that we need a unity among us before we can get through the religious problems. We need unity really desperetaly, 50% of our population in Iraq has fled, we are almost extinct in Turkey and Iran. I am very sad for my people since what I and other see is that the Kurds have taken over our ancient cities and villages, and they are claiming it has been theirs since ancient times. Aloho howe am kul suroyo w mshihoyo--Yohanun 22:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Benne doesn't want us to have unity, he doesn't want us to be united, he doesn't like Assyrian nationalism. He would rather see us continue to fight each other, which is why he's perpetuating these "Aramaean" lies, while our people are dying in Iraq. Great job Benne, keep that up. Which reminds me, those Aramaean lies, I just found this. Interesting, isn't it, Benne? The Turks and Arabs, as I've suspected for a long time now, are behind this false Aramaean identity. Typical divide and rule methods. —  13:00 04 Nov, 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Frisians
Hi, you are invited to join in the WikiProject Friesland. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

EliasAlucard
I believe it may be of interest that the user user:EliasAlucard has been pemanently blocked from swedish wikipedia, this because of what he has written in syriac/assyrian artikles and discussions []. And they came to the conclusion that this user could never write NPOV material related to these subjects. They also said the only reason hes editing this articles in wikipedia is in propaganda purposes. In english wiki he wrote this in a discussion (with you it seems) [] that itself hes worth a lifelong ban, regardless him saying he was not serious. Pardon my bad english, but english isn't my best subject, i thought this little information could be of interest for you, that this user is not in any ways objective. The TriZ (talk) 01:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Good boy TriZ. Eliminate the opposition so that you yourself (who happens to be ten times less of an NPOV editor than I am) can spread your religious propaganda peacefully. I can see you're working hard to get me banned. — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 05:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I never even said i am religous, but you have said many things about your assyrian propaganda. Including that you will use people who refrain themselfs as arameans as slaves and that you want the aramean people and language to be destroyed and forgotten, and much more than that. You clearly have an assyrian agenda and your using wikipedia to spread your propaganda. I would easily prove this, if it was in swedish, lucky for you my knowledge in the english language isn't even close to my swedish. The TriZ (talk) 16:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Cooperation board
I invite you to Assyrian-Syriac wikipedia cooperation board Chaldean (talk) 03:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Benne, as you see for yourself, we cannot work with Dab. He first of all is not even an expert on the situation like a person who lives among Syriacs (like you.) We need to get Gareth back, but he will not listen to me. PLEASE, try to convince him to come back to the project. He is the only mod that is knowledable about the subject. Chaldean (talk) 01:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

East/West Syriacs articles
Benne, I have moved them because they lacked sources. They have been tagged for ages. They clearly talked about the Jacobite/Nestorian groups. You have any sources establishing any other groups, I suggest you create articles on them separately. We cannot keep articles based on WP:SYN and selected soundbites from random sources indefinitely just because some ethnic patriots "disagree". It works the other way round: provide sources, and then create sub-articles. I appreciate you are willing to actually make coherent statements (as opposed to Chaldean, who prefers to behave like ELIZA). You will still need to recognize that reliable sources are a non-negotiable prerequisite here. I appreciate your inside knowledge, too, which will allow you to sort out confusing situations quickly, but at the end of the day, it will not replace actual sources. dab (𒁳) 14:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

 * wth Benne, I have already moved the page, and now have this VegardNorman character ranting at me for my pains. I really don't care what the article is called as long as its scope is made clear. dab (𒁳) 16:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Akbulut
Don't delete reliable source just because you don't like them. Chaldean (talk) 20:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Your rant was just that - a rant. Know that their are Syriacs whom still consider themselves Assyrian. And in this case, his probably one of them, otherwise, we would not have been refered to as an Assyrian. I think you need to take it to Wikipedia and challange that the AP is not considered reliable. Chaldean (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want to bring in a 3rd opinion, then please be my guest. But you don't have a right to remove sources. Chaldean (talk) 21:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And another thing, Assyrian people is a page of all Syriac-speaking middle easterners, of whom are known as Syriani in the Turkish language. Nothing has changed since your absense. Chaldean (talk) 22:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Babel
Why don't you add 'FY' to your Babel list on your user page? Or maybe FY-3 or FY-4? You're also participating in the Wikiproject Friesland, right? Guess you're a frisian, then :) Dr. F.C. Turner - [ USERPAGE | USERTALK ] - 18:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Aramean-Syriac people
Hi Benne, Do you think you can contribute to the article? We need more text in the Culture section, like traditions and cuisine etc. also if you can add more text in the article? thank you AramaeanSyriac (talk) 22:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Seyfo
Hi Benne, I hope your well. I'm writing to you cause I want your opinion on a thing and I would appreciate if you could take the time to give me your thoughts. If I had a copy of a letter written by president Wilson 1914, an open letter to the American people, where he speaks about whats happening to the Armenian and the Syrian peoples, plus different posters from that time by Armenians in the States where they appeal to the American people for money to starving "Armenians, Syrians and Greeks". Do you believe this is of importance and can make a difference (in the "Assyrian Genocide"-article in particular)?

Take Care. The TriZ (talk) 19:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Posters like this,. This goes against all the lies that EliasAlucard & the rest are saying, that the poeple has only been mentioned as Assyrians. The TriZ (talk) 16:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I have some of these,. And this is the President Wilson letter,. I've got it to. The TriZ (talk) 16:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I uploaded it here,. The TriZ (talk) 20:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Assyro-Chaldeans/miniproject
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Please join discussion
In []. Thank you JeanVinelorde (talk) 12:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of sultans of the Ottoman Empire/archive1
Hi, Benne! Sorry to disturb you, but I saw from this category that you are a member of WikiProject Turkey, and the List of sultans of the Ottoman Empire is currently a featured list candidate. If you could take some of your time and review it on its nomination page, I would be very grateful. Regards. --BomBom (talk) 02:59, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Your voice is needed
Talk:Assyrian/Syriac_diaspora. The TriZ (talk) 00:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Assyria After The Empire
You dispute the section on Neo Assyrian Empire that is concerned with Assyrian continued existence. Saying that is disputed.

Its not actually disputed by modern Assyriologists. I have added links to support this, and am prepared to add further non POV links if necessary.

Its pretty much accepted that the name Assyria continued to be used after the fall, by the Achamaenids, Greeks, Parthians, Romans and Sassanids. Not to mention in Armenian and Georgian references.

Likewise Native Mesopotamian religion, which is known to have survived well into the Christian era.

People have designated themselves as Assyrian for many centuries.

Of course, the culture changed, even at the time of the Empire Aramaic was replacing Akkadian, and Manicheanism and Christianity replaced Ashurism, that is true of all ancient cultures, including the Greeks.

The view that Assyria was completely devastated and its people literally wiped off the face of the earth is dated, and now largely discredited by more modern Assyriologists, Archaeologists, Ethnologists and Historians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinharib99 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

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proposed merge of Church of the East with the Assyrian Church of East
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Standard Federal Bank

Standard Federal Bank was a Troy, Michigan-based bank serving Michigan and Northern Indiana in the United States which was acquired by Bank of America on 5 May 2008.

In 2005, Standard Federal was the largest bank in Michigan based on number of retail branches (265), ATMs (more than 1,000) and deposits (US 23.3B, 15.06% market share); it ranked second in assets.

After ABN AMRO acquired it, the bank was renamed LaSalle Bank Midwest in 2005. Bank of America purchased the bank and its parent LaSalle Bank Corporation on October 1, 2007 and all branches were rebranded Bank of America on May 5, 2008.

History
Standard Federal began as Standard Savings & Loan Association; established on April 25, 1893, assuming the charter of the Workman's Savings and Loan Association. Offices opened in the basement of the old McGraw Building at the corner of Griswold and Lafayette in downtown Detroit. Standard moved to a larger building at the corner of Griswold and Larned Streets in 1914. It purchased land in 1927 and constructed its own headquarters at the northwest corner of Griswold and Jefferson in 1927. This lot was known as "the Cornerstone of Detroit", as it was the site of the first building ever raised in the city: Ste. Anne's Church, built July 26, 1701. In that year assets surpassed $10 million.

"Safety For Savings Since 1893"... an old Standard slogan that was never tested so severely as during the Wall Street Crash of 1929 and subsequent Great Depression. It weathered the 1929 stock market crash, and stayed open even as many Detroit banks and thrifts permanently closed after the 1933 bank holiday. The first branch office opened in 1948 on Grand River near Southfield Road in Northwest Detroit.

Standard's name changes over the years reflected growth in its scope and capabilities. After 57 years as Standard Savings & Loan Association, the thrift applied for and received a federal charter in 1950. This expanded its lending powers and Standard became known as Standard Federal Savings & Loan Association. The first branch office outside Detroit city limits opened in 1957 in suburban Royal Oak on North Woodward near 12 Mile Road. Assets meanwhile amounted to $100 million in 1957.

Mergers and acquisitions
In 1970, Birmingham Federal Savings (Michigan) merged with Standard Federal. Main offices moved to Birmingham on Woodward Avenue near Big Beaver Road. Total assets in 1973 reached $1 billion. In 1973, offices moved to a larger building in Troy at 2401 Big Beaver Road.

It acquired Wayne Federal Savings (Michigan) in 1975 and in 1980 First Federal Savings of Niles (Michigan) merged with Standard Federal. In 1981, it purchased Landmark Savings and Loan (Saginaw/Bay City, Michigan) and First Savings Association of Dowagiac (Michigan).

In the largest merger in Standard Federal's history, it took control of American Federal Savings of Fort Wayne, First Federal Savings of Fort Wayne, Fort Wayne Federal Savings, and South Bend Federal Savings and Loan Association (all of Indiana) in November 1983. The following year, assets totaled $5 billion.

On January 1, 1985, the bank converted from a federally chartered mutual savings and loan association to a federally chartered mutual savings bank and changed its name from Standard Federal Savings and Loan Association to Standard Federal Bank. On August 28, 1986, the bank's board of directors adopted a Plan of Conversion providing for the bank's conversion from a mutual to a stock institution. As of December 31, 1986, Standard Federal had 83 offices in 16 counties in Michigan and Indiana; 78 of which were full-service branches. The conversion from a mutual company to a publicly owned stock company listed on the New York Stock Exchange took place on January 28, 1987. This was one of the largest stock conversions by dollar amount in the history of the thrift industry.

Standard Federal completed the acquisition of Tower Federal Savings Bank of South Bend (Indiana) on June 18, 1988. During 1989, the bank acquired two savings institutions in Michigan: First Federal Savings and Loan Association of Kalamazoo (originally known as the Kalamazoo County Building Loan Association) and Peoples Savings Bank, F.S.B. in Monroe. On September 6, 1991, Standard Federal entered the Ohio market, gaining a significant presence in the northwest Ohio area through the acquisition of United Home Federal Savings and Loan Association of Toledo. It purchased First Federal Savings and Loan Association of Lenawee County, Adrian (Michigan) on August 8, 1992.

On April 25, 1993, Standard Federal celebrated its centennial. The bank stood as the largest thrift institution in the Midwest and the seventh largest in the United States, with assets of approximately $10 billion. In December of the same year, Standard made its largest single acquisition in history — Heritage Federal Savings Bank in Taylor (Michigan). Other acquisitions include InterFirst Bankcorp (1993), Colonial Central Savings Bank (1994) and Fidelity Savings Bank (1996). Effective May 1, 1995, Standard Federal Bank reorganized as Standard Federal Bancorporation, Inc., a holding company.

Purchase by ABN AMRO
On November 21, 1996, ABN AMRO reached an agreement to purchase Standard Federal Bancorporation for $1.9 billion; the acquisition completed on May 1, 1997. In 1996, Standard Federal was the largest savings bank in the Midwest, and the fourth largest bank in the State of Michigan. At December 31, 1996, Standard Federal's total assets amounted to $15.7 billion, with total deposits of $11.0 billion, loans serviced for others of $10.5 billion and stockholders' equity of $956.8 million.

In 2001, ABN AMRO acquired Michigan National Bank and merged it into Standard Federal. The merged bank adopted the acquired bank's national bank charter and the bank became Standard Federal Bank N.A., closing 59 overlapping branch offices and making Standard Federal Michigan's largest bank by the number of branch offices.

Rebranding to LaSalle Bank
On September 12, 2005, ABN AMRO and its American subsidiary LaSalle Bank Corporation officially changed the name of Standard Federal Bank N.A. to LaSalle Bank Midwest N.A. in what it called a "brand consolidation" instead of a merger with Chicago-based LaSalle Bank N.A. to pool the two banks' marketing resources.

Sale to Bank of America
On April 23, 2007, ABN AMRO announced the sale of LaSalle Bank Corporation to Bank of America for $21 billion, and a net sale of $16 billion after the return of $5 billion in excess capital. A consortium led by Royal Bank of Scotland filed a legal challenge to the deal as ABN AMRO did not seek higher bids from other potential purchasers, however, the Dutch Supreme Court ultimately approved the sale. Bank of America closed the purchase on October 1, 2007, and LaSalle Bank Midwest began doing business under the Bank of America brand on May 5, 2008.

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Belgium - Literature
Dear Fideel, Thank you for editing litterature in Belgium. However I am not sure your changes were good. I don't revert them back because I am not sure. --147.231.28.83 08:16, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You have added only Dutch writers. You should keep in mind it is important to keep always a good balance between French and Dutch.
 * This info here should be a summary of what is in the Culture of Belgium article. Therefore I only put two authors in each poetry and prose one of both communities.  The ones I thought were the most relevant.  So please have a look at the main article and decide yourself whether the info you added is there or not and whether it must be included in the Belgium article.
 * The info about the Cannes festival is already in Culture of Belgium. If you add this someone will for sure add that Daens received the foreign film oscar award.  That's why I didn't add this info originally.  To keep only each culture item within one or two lines.
 * I do not agree. The wikipedia is not an outlet for national communitarian balance. There is no reason nor rule, why there should be exactly two poets from the flemish speaking part and two of the french speaking part. The idea seems ludicrous, in fact. A flemish speaking person will obviously know more about flemish or dutch-speaking poets then walloon or french ones; this is no reason to be 'political correct' in the typical Belgian way. The wikipedia is free for everyone; if people want to place Belgian french-speaking poets in there, they can do so.

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