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Garfield: The Movie
Dont forget that this song was also in above movie. So who let the dog out

There is also a song called "Who Let The Hogs Out" by the Electric Amish http://www.electricamish.com/ which has been played on the Bob and Tom show. I don't see it on their discography at present. 209.43.9.71 04:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)Michael Z. Williamson

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Mitt Romney
This probably isn't notable enough, but if anyone's interested, Mitt Romney apparently thinks this is a hip and trendy song. http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/01/21/romney-who-let-the-dogs-out/ Reminds me of that McDonalds ad where they used the phrase "I'd hit it" referring to a cheeseburger, not realizing that the phrase means "I'd have sex with it." 153.42.168.174 (talk) 19:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

The Hangover
This song is in The Hangover

68.117.70.6 (talk) 00:53, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Lyrics
What is the song actually about? 99.247.1.157 (talk) 00:03, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

"Who Let the Dogs Out" was also in "Men in Black II". Will Smith returns to the car, where he left his alien partner, a talking dog (a Pug). He discovers the dog singing/barking along with this song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.92.213.214 (talk) 00:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

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Documentary tracing back the origin of the song
Noting in passing that there is a documentary entitled Who Let the Dogs Out wherein a person researched the origins of this song. Interestingly (for navel-gazing purposes), his research began when he tried to find information to add the surname of a person referred to as "Keith" to the Wikipedia article about this song. Risker (talk) 03:08, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I've added this report as an external link. Some of it could probably be incorporated into the article, but I don't have time at the moment.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:58, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, an episode of the podcast “99 percent invisible” covers the story: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/whomst-among-us-let-the-dogs-out/ //Knuckles (talk) 06:35, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Ummm, which is already added as an external link in the article.. saw that just after posting my comment, sorry. Knuckles (talk) 06:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 5 February 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved  (t · c)  buidhe  05:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Who Let the Dogs Out (song) → Who Let the Dogs Out – I don't know exactly why this is not at the base name, but it is clearly the primary topic.|Who_Let_the_Dogs_Out_(song)|Who_Let_the_Dogs_Out_(album)|Who_Let_the_Dogs_Out%3F_(TV_series) (CC) Tb hotch ™ 04:47, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support move. This is as close to TWODABS as you can get without actually having only two topics.  O.N.R.  (talk) 09:12, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support, obvious primary. Good call Tbhottch. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:19, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support. Indeed. ResPM  (T🔈 🎵C) 13:25, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - Since there are technically 3 topics, I suggest the prior short disambiguation page be restored and moved to Who Let the Dogs Out (disambiguation) upon closing. -- Netoholic @ 20:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - It appears that the two other articles both cover subjects which were named after this article's subject. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 14:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Support The song is the primary topic. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 10:38, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Feminist song
Besides the reference that was removed without explanation in this edit, with an invitation to discuss this on the talk page (so wait, why do I have to start the discussion when sourced information is being removed together with the source?), also at least one other of the already established references in this article calls it feminist. I am putting that categorization and text back in, as it is not a single source this relies on anymore. Why would we remove the reference from that quote? --denny vrandečić (talk) 21:56, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Why do you think it is necessary, or helpful to readers, to insert that claim in the opening sentence of the article - rather than referring to the claim, in a more nuanced and balanced way, in the body of the text? It is not open to dispute that it is a "song".  It is open to argument whether it can neutrally be called "a feminist song against catcalling", simply because that is one claim made for it.  The song has a very complicated origin and history, and it does not give the correct balance to be too specific about its meaning in the very first sentence of the article.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Daniel Lapin

Bad link
http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0534/050824_news_mossback.php

THE LINK TO MY BLOG-POST; "RABBI DANIEL LAPIN: A LONG LOOK BACKWARD" IS INCOMPLETE IT SHOULD BE http://blatherwatch.blogs.com/talk_radio/2005/05/rabbi_daniel_la.html

 * I fixed it; there was a missing space after "html". John Broughton 20:30, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

What this article is not
This article is not:
 * A place to violate Wikipedia's rules against libel.
 * A stalking horse for POV pushers with an axe to grind against the subject.
 * A place to vent about Jack Abramoff.
 * An article that needs multiple external links not related to the main subject.
 * A place to launch complaints against the Republicans.
 * A data base for unverified information about the subject.

Thanks. IZAK 21:04, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

IZAK's removal of relevant info from this page
Your edits do not reflect a NPOV. The allegations of money laundering and the like published in major media like the Washington Post and the Seattle Times do not constitute libel, and there is no justification for removing them. As per the Wikipedia policy, each of these items was referenced through the citation of reliable published sources. If you have other sources that contradict these, then publish them, or cease and desist your edits.

 * Hey buddy, what's with the no User name?: How about signing with a real Wikipedia name with the four tildes ~ ? Otherwise it may be assumed that you are just a muckraker Internet troll more interested in causing mischief, harm and mayhem by attacking people than in contributing genuinely NPOV information fit for an authentic encyclopia. IZAK 10:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

 * IZAK - If the folks who run wikipedia assumed that anyone posting via IP address only were always as problematical as you describe, they would have banned anonymous editing. They did not.  If you want this wikipedia policy changed (to eliminate muckrackers, those who want to cause mischief, harm, and mayhem), then I suggest you take the matter to the Village pump.  Otherwise, I think it is more constructive if you don't do personal attacks on anonymous posters.

 * More to the point: I don't agree with your last three edit changes (essentially, REMOVING material), and would like you to explain why you did that.  In particular, I would like you to cite ANY wikipedia policy that "7 links is plenty for an article of this size."

 * Please note that selective removal of negative materials is NOT NPOV.  John Broughton 20:17, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

 * John: Here is the largest disputed passage:

 * Allegations of money laundering: The Washington Post reported on October 16, 2005, that Lapin's religious charity received a $25,000 donation in 2000 from online gambling company eLottery, a lobbying client of Jack Abramoff and his employer, Preston Gates Ellis, despite Lapin's professed opposition to gambling. Some or all of the money received by Lapin was then laundered into a company run by the wife of Tony Rudy, the Tom DeLay aide who was instrumental in killing an antigambling bill that eLottery and Abramoff were lobbying against. In an interview, Lapin claimed not to remember any donations from eLottery and stated that Rudy was paid for helping to organize a conference. However, this contradicted Robert Daum, a former eLottery official, who said that all the money spent by the company at Abramoff's direction was for the purpose of defeating the Internet gambling bill in Congress.

 * In a followup article published by the Washington Post on January 9, 2006, Lapin was implicated in additional money laundering that was revealed when Toward Tradition was referred to as a "non-profit entity" in Abramoff's plea agreement. Howard Rubinstein of Magazine Publishers of America, which had hired Abramoff's firm Preston Gates Ellis in 2000 for a $10 million campaign against the postal rate increase, revealed that the MPA made a $25,000 contribution to Lapin's group Toward Tradition in 2000. Lapin claimed that he and his board had no idea the money was part of Abramoff's scheme to influence Congress and, in this case, stop bills to raise postal rates and ban online lotteries. (Seattle Times on January 9, 2006

These two pragraphs are riddled with ambiguities and innuendos, regardless if it's from newspaper reporters (since they are certainly not infallible). A few points: The section of "Allegations of money laundering" reads more like "Proof" of money laundering when nothing of the sort has been proven. So when there is a line like "Some or all of the money received by Lapin was then laundered into a company run by the wife of Tony Rudy" the whole section is suspect and must go until such time as this is established as real fact and not presented as if it actually happened. And when it says: "Lapin claimed that he and his board had no idea the money was part of Abramoff's scheme to influence Congress" it's written in an accusatory style winking at the reader to simply assume that something wrong had actually happened when nothing has been established as a neutral fact. There are many of these innuendos and half-truths abounding in this segment based on newspaper articles that are not reporting facts but merely digging for dirt at this point, so for now it needn't get such prominence.

Similarly, Lapin has denied what is stated here as coming from "National Public Radio reported in July 2005" "that Abramoff listed the following awards on his biography. Scholar of Biblical and American History, 1994, from Lapin's organization Toward Tradition. Biblical Mercantile Award, 1999, from the Cascadia Business Institute, another creation of Rabbi Lapin."

Then, the number of links were just repeating accusations that a more limited number of links perform just as well. All this is quite normal in a day's editing on Wikipedia and doesn't require any grand reasoning...unless one is out to "bury" Rabbi Lapin before he has even been formally charged with any crime of any sort whatsoever. If and when that would maybe ever happen, then some of the "charges" here can be listed, until then they can be dismissed as elaborate fairy tales not far removed from slander and libel.

Finally, I did not merely go about deleting things as you make it sound, I also added important basic information about Lapin that a truly NPOV editor should have been doing, and not just looking for "skeletons in closets." IZAK 09:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * IZAK, I agree the wording is inappropriate and that Lapin's rebuttal needs to be included. However, you can't deny the facts. The NPR claims are detailed at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4734647 and the direct evidence of Abramoff's bio is available at http://web.archive.org/web/20031005194803/gtlaw.com/bios/govadmin/abramoffj.htm. Until Abramoff testifies, this is the state of current knowledge. Seattle90. Jan 24th 2006.

 * IZAK - thanks for the informative response. I also agree that the language that you cite is sloppy at best, and needs, at minimum, to be shortened and edited.  But Abramoff DID send money through Lapin's charity; that's a fact.  And Abramoff DID cite awards from Lapin's organization; that's another fact.

 * When I find a bit of time, I'm going to try to rewrite at least some of the deleted materials (and add them back) in briefer and hopefully NPOV language. I also hope to find time to look at the deleted links, and make the case for any that I think do add to a reader's knowledge, when followed.  You're certainly right that redundant links are unnecessary (the same news story in ten different papers, on a bunch of bloggers fulminating on the same thing), but there isn't anything magical about seven.

 * And I certainly welcome someone else offering revised wording. John Broughton 23:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Another round of editing
Quoting Daniel Lapin in a biography on Daniel Lapin and taking up over 1/3 of the article with his quotes serve little purpose other than to characterize out of context or even in context a vague idea of his political ideas as imagined by his opponents. Secondly, in fact David Lapin taught Abramoff Talmud and Jewish Law. Guy Montag 06:21, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree. I would dearly like to see the context of some of these quotes before they are included. Sholom 16:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Addressing only the second point - I moved the tutoring information out of the awards section (where it is speculation) to the relationship section. I also changed the section title back to "Fake awards".  No one is denying that the awards are fake, which is much more important than that awards were "requested".  A reader scanning only the section titles might well think that the request for awards was legitimate, or that the request was met by a polite refusal.  John Broughton 18:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Questions:
 * (1) what is the point of the section titled "Judaism is a non-proselytizing religion." ? Lapin's view here are so standard as to make a Jew yawn.  It has the same novelty as something like "Lapin believes Jews should have a seder on Passover."
 * (2) what is the point of most of the stuff in the section: "Allies"? Yes, we know that Lapin is a convservative religious Republican who finds things in common with conservative Christian religioun Republicans.
 * And (shocking!) "Lapin has had breakfast with Karl Rove". So what?  Is this an attempt at character-assassination-by-association?
 * "Lapin often flew east to stay with Republican lobbyist and soon-to-be-convicted felon Jack Abramoff" adds nothing to the article, particularly since the very next large section is called "Abramoff".
 * Can we remove much of this? Sholom 19:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Re (1), yes, I'd vote to remove the "Judaism is a non-proselytizing religion" section.

Re (2), I'd vote to remove the Abramoff sentence, but to leave in the Karl Rove sentence. I think that wikipedia articles can be helpful by providing context, and context includes who-knows-whom. Relatively few people have breakfast with Karl Rove. Similarly, most people don't have Zig Ziglar as a guest, and I think that should also stay in the article. As far as character-assassination-by-association, I think that the reader should be left to judge what breakfast with KR means. John Broughton 19:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm happy you partially agree with me. As for breakfast with KR, does everybody who's had breakfast with him have it mentioned?  Further, Lapin has also had dinner with Delay, Ralph Reed, Bush, Pia Zadora, Burgess Meredith.  He's consulted with Barbra Streisand.  Should all that be mentioned, too?  (Fwiw, I found the source of more than half the quotes in the article -- it's at ) Sholom 19:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Business guru
OK -- next issue. The article asserts: "Though he portrays himself as a business guru,". . . is there a source for that? -- Sholom 04:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I did a google search, and this popped up:

 * Daniel Lapin is an unlikely business guru. He doesn't have an MBA or a distinguished record of financial wizardry. His largest venture into the world of commerce, running a firm that traded in second mortgages, ended in bankruptcy court, with Lapin owing nearly $3 million. Yet this history hasn't stopped Lapin from dispensing business wisdom, and it hasn't stopped corporations from paying him thousands of dollars to give motivational speeches.  John Broughton 17:34, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for finding that. I clicked on the link, and as I'm not a subscriber to TNR, I see only your quote and one other sentence -- which is: That's because Lapin draws on another source of authority when making his presentations to executives: his yarmulke.....  It makes it seem like businesses hired him to make motivational speeches.  Indeed, I know that part of Lapin's message in business is to act ethically.  (Which certainly isn't reflected in our article here!).  The main question stands -- is there a source for the claim that he himself portrays himself as a business guru? -- Sholom 18:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

 * The best source to document Lapin claiming to be a successful business guru/consultant is his 2002 book Thou Shall Prosper: Ten Commandments for Making Money. The inside flap claims Lapin is a 'renowned business consultant'. The back flap notes he is President of the Cascadia Business Institute and gives more than fifty speeches annually to major corporations. The Publishers Weekly review notes "Lapin offers a manual on how to make money by succeeding in business". A quote from Zig Ziglar from the back cover states "Rabbi Daniel Lapin's wisdom has helped untold numbers of people, including me, grow in in our business, family and spiritual lives...". It's not clear if any of this is actually documented given Lapin's business history. At the time the book was published, the Cascadia Business Institute appears to have been inactive. A reader. 2nd March 2006

African-American
Daniel Lapin should be identified as an African-American. Lapin was born in Africa (Johannesburg, South Africa) and he is now an American (he became a naturalized citizen of the United States in 1973).

72.82.177.101 02:18, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Give me a break. "African-American" is an ethnic/racial term, not a geographical one. marbeh raglaim 02:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I understand what Marbeh is saying; however, Africa is a place, not a race or ethnicity. The term African-American is a bunch of PC BS for the reasons implied by 72.82.177.101. 4.243.227.195 19:00, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Marbeh is correct. In all accuracy, Lapin is actually a Jewish South African - White - American of Lithuanian origin, whereas "African-American" is the present-day politically correct term for American Blacks only. IZAK 05:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

 * He isn't African other than the fact that he was born there. He has no citizenship there nor does he have any real ties there. African-American is an ethnic term (well, the idea of race is just a big political term like caucasian and whatever, we're all the same species, sheesh). 74.5.111.155 (talk) 10:55, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

No. He is African American. Forget PC nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.81.172.58 (talk) 10:21, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Wholesale removal of Abramoff section and links
I reverted the extensive edit by Source1234 of entire sections of the article (including all mentions of Abramoff). Bregence 22:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Unsourced Quotes/Sections
Several sections in this entry include direct quotes and information that are entirely unsourced. I'd like to help bring the entry up to date, but wanted to check first to see if anyone has verifiable sources they'd like to add to the following sections: Support for Conservative Christians, Opposition to Jewish Liberalism, Recycling (broken link), Wealth and Allies.

I am of the belief that these sections need some extensive editing or restructuring(or perhaps even removal) to meet standards of neutrality, but certainaly don't want to delete anything that is, in fact, factual. Please let me know if there's anything I should keep in mind before making edits, or if you'd like to see my suggested edits and reasoning for them here first. Thank you! --Hmsc (talk) 18:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

 * I made a few edits. Removed some sections cause it doesn't serve any purpose. Maybe this can be shortened until proper sources are given. The only citations left are for his own website. Sheilaj (talk) 00:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Thanks, Sheilaj. I added a few more sources I was able to find. I agree with the suggestion to perhaps shorten it until more proper sources can be given--Hmsc (talk) 14:46, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Lapin's political philosophy
I know that he is a Republican, but are there any more specific descriptions of his political philosophy? For example, both Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are Republicans, but they disagree on many things. I noticed in the article that Lapin is friends with Walter Block, who is an anarcho-capitalist. Does Lapin lean this way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.226.67.84 (talk) 00:01, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

NPOV Issues
I came to the talk page to see if there has been any discussion of this but I do not see anything useful. It appears that the section labeled "relationship with Abramoff" has no use in this article. It is all linked to Toward Tradition and Abramoff and not Lapin. I will be cleaning up the section to keep some of the information as a mention of it should be appropriate, but the majority of it belongs on the Toward Tradition page (which it is posted there in detail) and the Jack Abramoff page (which for some reason does not seem to mention it). Also, the majority of the section is un-sourced. I will be pulling in some additional sources to support the content that remains. --Morning277 (talk) 20:20, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

 * I made a comment about Abramoff but the more I look at this article it appears that whoever did the majority of these contributions earlier on in the article was not familiar with policies on neutrality. That is the reason why I changed the title of this section from Abramoff to NPOV issues. I would like to remind anyone who edits this article to maintain a NPOV!--Morning277 (talk) 20:37, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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A Night Out

A Night Out may refer to:

 * A Night Out (1915 film), a 1915 film starring Charlie Chaplin and Edna Purviance
 * A Night Out, a 1916 film starring May Robson
 * A Night Out (1961 film), an Australian television play
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Talk:Helen Tamiris

D.O.B.?
Was she born in 1905 or 1902? Both appear in the text. Segis84 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:11, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

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Unfortunately, there's quite a bit in this stub that appears to have been lifted verbatim from the Encyclopedia Britannica site "Women in American History". Will have to come back to clean this up. J. Van Meter

Tamiris as gang leader.
Well, maybe one little fact may be added; as a surviving family member, I got to hear some stories about her. Always the organizer, as a kid in New York she used to mobilize other kids to steal food from the outdoor market vendors. She was a gang leader. Not exactly the kind of story you'd read in most wiki stubs. Also I think she did the choreography for the Broadway revival of "Showboat" in the 50's. Also the Broadway version of "Paint Your Wagon."

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Jonathan Sumption, Lord Sumption

Jonathan Philip Chadwick Sumption, Lord Sumption,, KC (born 9 December 1948), is a British author, medieval historian, barrister and former senior judge who sat on the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom between 2012 and 2018, and a Non-Permanent Judge of the Hong Kong Court of Final Appeal from 2019 to 2024.

Sumption was sworn in as a Justice of the Supreme Court on 11 January 2012, succeeding Lawrence Collins, Baron Collins of Mapesbury. Exceptionally, he was appointed to the Supreme Court directly from the practising bar, without having been a full-time judge. He retired from the Supreme Court on 9 December 2018 upon reaching the mandatory retirement age of 70.

Sumption is well known for his role as a barrister in many legal cases. They include appearances in the Hutton Inquiry on HM Government's behalf, in the Three Rivers case, his representation of former Cabinet Minister Stephen Byers and the Department for Transport in the Railtrack private shareholders' action against the British Government in 2005, for defending HM Government in an appeal hearing brought by Binyam Mohamed, and for successfully defending Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich in a private lawsuit brought by Boris Berezovsky.

A former academic, Sumption was appointed an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) in the 2003 New Year Honours and is also known for writing a substantial narrative history of the Hundred Years' War in five volumes. Sumption has been elected a Fellow of the Royal Historical Society (FRHistS) and a Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries of London (FSA).

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Sumption criticised lockdowns and associated British government policies as economically harmful.

Early life and education
Jonathan Sumption was born on 9 December 1948. He is the eldest of the four children of Anthony Sumption, a decorated naval officer and barrister, and Hilda Hedigan; their marriage was dissolved in 1979. He was educated at Eton College, where at 15 he was at the bottom of his class. He read Medieval History at Magdalen College, Oxford, from 1967 to 1970, graduating with a first. He was elected a fellow of Magdalen College, teaching and writing books on medieval history from 1971 to 1975 before leaving to pursue a career in law. Called to the bar at the Inner Temple in 1975, he then pursued a successful legal practice in commercial law.

In the 1970s, Sumption served as an adviser to the Conservative MP and Cabinet Minister Sir Keith Joseph. In 1974 Joseph and Margaret Thatcher together founded the Centre for Policy Studies to act as a think tank for the Conservative Party, and Sumption became one of its earliest employees, working as a speechwriter for Joseph. Sumption and Joseph co-wrote a 1979 book, Equality, seeking to show that "no convincing arguments for an equal society have ever been advanced" and that "no such society has ever been successfully created".

In the late 1970s Sumption was a regular contributor to The Sunday Telegraph.

Legal career
Sumption joined Brick Court Chambers in 1975, where he remained for the entirety of his commercial legal career as a barrister. He was appointed Queen's Counsel (QC) in 1986 at the relatively young age of 38, and elected a bencher of the Inner Temple in 1991. He has served as a Deputy High Court Judge in the Chancery Division, and a Judge of the Court of Appeal of Jersey and the Guernsey Court of Appeal. In 2005, Sumption became joint head of Brick Court Chambers. He was a member of the Judicial Appointments Commission until his appointment to the Supreme Court.

On 30 November 2007, when a practising barrister, Sumption successfully represented himself before Mr Justice Collins in a judicial review application in the Administrative Court concerning proposed development near his home at Greenwich.

Earnings as a barrister
The Guardian once described him as being a member of the "million-a-year club", the elite group of barristers earning over a million pounds a year. In a letter to The Guardian in 2001, he compared his "puny £1.6 million a year" to the vastly larger amounts that comparable individuals in business, sports and entertainment are paid.

For a four-week trial (and all the preparatory work) in the UK in 2005 he charged £800,000 to represent HM Government in the largest class action in the UK, brought by 49,500 private shareholders of the collapsed national railway infrastructure company Railtrack. The Government had money and reputation at stake, the case examining some of the actions of HM Government, especially of former Transport Secretary Stephen Byers. Byers became the only former Cabinet Minister to be cross-examined in the High Court in relation to his actions in modern times: the British Government won the case.

Sumption earned £7.8 million for his defence of Roman Abramovich in the 2012 case Berezovsky v Abramovich. This is believed to be the highest fee ever earned in British legal history.

Judicial career
On 4 May 2011 Sumption's appointment as a Justice of the Supreme Court was announced. Upon his subsequent swearing-in on 11 January 2012, he assumed the judicial courtesy title of Lord Sumption pursuant to a royal warrant (by which all members of the Supreme Court, even if they do not hold a peerage title, are accorded the style of "Lord" for life).

Sumption was sworn of the Privy Council on 14 December 2011 in advance of his joining the Court, whose Justices also serve as members of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. He retired from the Supreme Court on 9 December 2018.

Sumption is the first lawyer appointed to the Supreme Court without previously serving as a full-time judge since its inception in 2009. There were only five such appointments as Law Lords to the Court's predecessor, the Appellate Committee of the House of Lords. Two were Scots lawyers: Lord Macmillan in 1930 and Lord Reid in 1948; the others were Lord Macnaghten (1887), Lord Carson (1921) and Lord Radcliffe (1949).

After his retirement, Sumption sat on the Supplementary Panel of the Supreme Court from 13 December 2018 to 30 January 2021. He voluntarily retired in 2021 because he considered it inappropriate to serve on the panel in view of his public criticisms of the government.

On 13 December 2019, Sumption was appointed as a Non-Permanent Judge of the Court of Final Appeal in Hong Kong by Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam. After making his pledge of allegiance to the Hong Kong SAR of the People's Republic of China as part of the judicial oath, Lord Sumption officially commenced his office as a Hong Kong judge on 18 December 2019. He had previously appeared as counsel in the Court of Final Appeal in a number of cases. On 6 June 2024, Lord Sumption resigned as a Non-Permanent Judge together with Lord Collins of Mapesbury, citing the political situation.

The Hundred Years' War
Sumption's narrative history of the Hundred Years' War between England and France (of which five volumes have been published, between 1990 and 2023) has been widely praised as "earning a place alongside Steven Runciman's A History of the Crusades" according to Frederic Raphael, and as a work that "deploys an enormous variety of documentary material ... and interprets it with imaginative and intelligent sympathy" and is "elegantly written" (Rosamond McKitterick, Evening Standard); for Allan Massie it is "An enterprise on a truly Victorian scale ... What is most impressive about this work, apart from the author's mastery of his material and his deployment of it, is his political intelligence". Volume I (covering the years from the funeral of Charles IV of France in 1329 to the Surrender of Calais in 1347) was first published in 1990. Volume II (covering the years from 1347 to 1369) was published in 1999. Volume III (covering the years from 1369 to 1399) appeared in 2009. Volume IV (covering the years from 1399 to 1422) appeared in 2015, the 600th anniversary of the Battle of Agincourt. Volume V (covering the years from 1422 to 1453) was published in 2023.

Sumption has been praised for a clipped and polished prose style, which he credits to his unwillingness to employ cliché. He admires Edward Gibbon but points out that "if anybody wrote like him today they'd be dismissed as a pompous fart".

Political views
Sumption has been described as a "conservative neo-liberal and libertarian." In 1974, he worked with Conservative MP Sir Keith Joseph at the Centre for Policy Studies, an economically liberal think-tank. However, he was a Labour supporter at the time and later voted for Tony Blair.

He has said that an attempt to rapidly achieve gender equality in the Supreme Court through quotas or positive discrimination could end up discouraging the best applicants, as they would no longer believe that the process would select on merit, and "have appalling consequences for justice". He has criticised the judicial appointments process in the United States, where politicians quiz judicial appointees on their views, as "discreditable" and described former Attorney General for England and Wales Sir Geoffrey Cox's proposal for a similar system as, "one of the most ill-thought-out ideas ever to emerge from a resentful government frustrated by its inability to do whatever it likes".

He has criticised the historical curriculum in English schools as "appallingly narrow", warning that by forcing English schoolchildren to study 1918–1945 in isolation they "are being taught about Germany and Europe during its most aberrant period". He believes that history should not be apologised for once perpetrators of injustices are no longer alive, describing apologies for events such as the Irish Famine and the Armenian genocide as "morally worthless", although saying that, "we have a duty to understand why things happened as they did" and there are "lessons to be learned". In the wake of the Black Lives Matter protests following the murder of George Floyd in May 2020 in Minneapolis, the United States, Sumption criticised the removal of monuments, arguing that people of the past did not share the values of the present and calling it "an irrational and absurd thing to do".

In 2023, the New Statesman named him as the 47th most influential right-wing figure in British politics.

Brexit
He voted to remain in the European Union in the 2016 referendum, describing the decision to leave as, "a serious mistake that will do lasting damage to our economy" and that, "Britain will be dominated by the European Union whether we belong to it or not". Nevertheless, he believed there were strong arguments for Brexit on the grounds of national sovereignty and identity. He said that leavers, "were not mad. They are not irrational, not naive and have not been deceived". He wrote that, "All of these patronising explanations of their decision seems to me to be mere attempts to evade unpalatable truths."

Judicial review and politics
Sumption has written in detail about his concerns regarding the relationship between the judiciary and politics in several lectures and books, most notably his books Trials of the State: Law and the Decline of Politics (2019) and Law in a Time of Crisis (2021). He argues that since the 1960s, but particularly in recent years, the courts have undermined the political processes and institutions of parliament by judging issues that should be decided by elected politicians and ministers. He specifically critiques the expansion of judicial review, saying that, "It has tended to intrude into areas that belong to parliament and ministers answerable to parliament", and has criticised the interpretative powers conferred by the Human Rights Act 1998. He argues that political figures are more democratically accountable to the public for decisions they make, unlike judges who are unelected and difficult to remove from office. He has criticised the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), which interprets and adjudicates on the European Convention on Human Rights. He has compared the values of the ECHR and those of the post-war dictatorships of eastern Europe, stating that "they both employ the concept of democracy as a generalised term of approval for a set of political values". He describes the text of the convention as "wholly admirable" but argues that the Strasbourg court has interpreted and developed the rights very broadly to go beyond their original meaning and to the extent that the rights cover issues which are properly the remit of elected legislatures. He has criticised the "living instrument" doctrine, particularly regarding Article 8 of the convention, which he describes as, "the most striking example of this kind of mission creep." He has said that if there was no significant change in the approach of the Strasburg court then he would support withdrawing from the convention.

COVID-19 pandemic
Sumption has been highly critical of the British government's lockdowns during the COVID-19 pandemic on civil libertarian grounds, seeing them as a slippery slope, while also criticising the legal basis for their enactment and the enforceability of COVID-19 control measures. He has also questioned whether the virus is serious enough to justify restrictive measures, while also arguing that the effects of lockdowns may be worse than the effects of the actual virus, attracting controversy and debate in British media outlets.

On 17 January 2021, Sumption appeared on The Big Questions to discuss the question of whether the lockdown was "punishing too many for the greater good", and said (with reference to the medical concept of quality-adjusted life years) that "I don't accept that all lives are of equal value. My children's and my grandchildren's life is worth much more than mine because they've got a lot more of it ahead". When a cancer patient taking part in the debate said that he was saying that her life was "not valuable", Sumption interrupted her, saying: "I didn't say your life was not valuable, I said it was less valuable." Health experts have criticised his views, stating that the concept of "quality adjusted life years" is primarily useful for debates on the allocation of scarce healthcare resources, and may not be useful for discussion of a nationwide lockdown.

In July 2021, Full Fact concluded in a fact-checking article that Sumption had "made several mistakes with Covid-19 data when talking about the disease" on BBC Radio 4's Today programme. This included incorrect statements that many recorded COVID-19 deaths were people who had the virus but had died of unrelated causes, that people who had died of COVID-19 "would probably have died within a year after" (on average, British COVID-19 victims lost around a decade of life), and that only "hundreds" of people without pre-existing medical conditions in the UK had died of COVID-19 (the true figure, up to the end of March 2021, was 15,883 in England and Wales alone).

Professor of Health and Law John Coggon critiqued Sumption's philosophical and legal arguments against COVID-19 restrictions in the Journal of Medical Ethics; he also contrasted Sumption's libertarian arguments against such restrictions with arguments he himself had made against the right to die when giving his judgment in R (Nicklinson) v Ministry of Justice, when he argued that the moral principle of sanctity of life should be protected in law.

Personal life
Sumption married Teresa Whelan and they have two daughters, one son, and five grandchildren. He lives in Greenwich and has a second home, a chateau in the village of Berbiguières in the Dordogne in the south of France.

Sumption speaks French and Italian fluently, and reads Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Catalan and Latin. He "rarely learned them using guides, instead I preferred to muddle on through a text with a dictionary by my side".

An opera lover, he serves as a director of the English National Opera and as a governor of the Royal Academy of Music.

Full style

 * The Rt Hon Lord Sumption,

As counsel

 * Lipkin Gorman v Karpnale Ltd [1987] 1 WLR 987
 * R v Panel on Takeovers and Mergers Ex parte Datafin Plc [1987] QB 815
 * Powdrill v Watson [1995] 2 AC 394
 * Re Goldcorp Exchange Ltd [1995] 1 AC 74
 * Target Holdings Ltd v Redferns [1996] AC 421
 * Westdeutsche Landesbank Girozentrale v Islington LBC [1996] AC 669
 * Smith New Court Securities Ltd v Citibank NA [1997] AC 254 (fraud, misrepresentation)
 * South Australia Asset Management Corp v York Montague Ltd [1997] AC 191
 * Bristol & West Building Society v Mothew [1998] Ch 1
 * Investors Compensation Scheme Ltd v West Bromwich Building Society [1998] 1 WLR 896
 * Royal Bank of Scotland plc v Etridge (No 2) [2001] UKHL 44
 * Dubai Aluminium Co Ltd v Salaam [2002] UKHL 48
 * HIH Casualty & General Insurance Ltd v Chase Manhattan Bank [2003] UKHL 6
 * Wilson v First County Trust [2003] UKHL 40
 * Three Rivers District Council v Bank of England [2004] 3 WLR 1274 (about the collapse of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International)
 * Office of Fair Trading v Abbey National plc [2009] UKSC 6, won, representing the Barclays Bank plc.
 * Stone & Rolls v Moore Stephens [2009] UKHL 39, won, representing the accountants

As judge
Two books are dedicated to Sumption's contribution to private and public law, respectively. The following cases are an excerpt of his contribution to the law:
 * Kelly v Fraser [2012] UKPC 25 [15], [2013] 1 AC 450 – on apparent authority based on an agent's misrepresentation that the principal had approved the transaction
 * Prest v Petrodel Resources Ltd & Ors [2013] UKSC 34, [2013] 2 AC 415 – on piercing the corporate veil
 * Bank Mellat v Her Majesty's Treasury (No. 2) [2013] UKSC 39, [2014] 1 AC 700 – On the test of proportionality and the lawfulness of the UK government's sanctions of Bank Mellat
 * Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd v Premium Aircraft Interiors UK Ltd [2013] UKSC 46, [2014] AC 160 – on the rule of res judicata
 * Williams v Central Bank of Nigeria [2014] UKSC 10, [2014] AC 1189 – on the correct construction of the Limitation Act 1980 with important remarks on the nature of constructive trust and a claim of knowing receipt
 * Coventry v Lawrence [2014] UKSC 13
 * R (Nicklinson) v Ministry of Justice [2014] UKSC 38, [2015] AC 657 – On the compatibility of the prohibition of assisting suicide with the European Convention on Human Rights
 * R (Lord Carlile of Berriew) v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2014] UKSC 60, [2015] AC 945 – the role of the courts when applying the proportionality test in cases concerning interferences with qualified human rights
 * Pham v Secretary of State for the Home Department [2015] UKSC 19, [2015] 1 WLR 1591 – on the development of the common law test of unreasonableness and its relationship with the proportionality test
 * Bilta (UK) Ltd v Nazir (No 2) [2015] UKSC 23, [2016] AC 1 – on the rules of attribution in company law
 * Papadimitriou v Crédit Agricole Corpn and Investment Bank [2015] UKPC 13, [2015] 1 WLR 4265 – On the fault requirement necessary for liability in knowing receipt
 * Bunge SA v Nidera BV [2015] UKSC 43, [2015] 3 All ER 1082 – on the proper assessment date of contractual damages
 * Cavendish Square Holding BV v Talal El Makdessi (Rev 3) [2015] UKSC 67, [2016] AC 1172 – on the law of penalty and liquidated damages clause
 * Angove's Pty Ltd v Bailey [2016] UKSC 47, [2016] 1 WLR 3179 – on proprietary restitution
 * Patel v Mirza [2016] UKSC 42, [2017] AC 467 – dissenting judgment on illegal contracts
 * JSC BTA Bank v Ablyazov and another (No 14) [2018] UKSC 19, [2020] AC 727 – on tort of economic loss (joint judgment with Lord Lloyd-Jones)
 * Rock Advertising Ltd v MWB Business Exchange Centres Ltd [2018] UKSC 24, [2019] AC 119 – on the effect of a No Oral Modification clause in a contract

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 * with Sir Keith Joseph)
 * ; paperback (1999) ISBN 978-0-571-20095-5
 * ; paperback (2001) ISBN 0-571-20737-5
 * ; paperback (2001) ISBN 0-571-20737-5

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Serach (Khazar)

In the Schechter Letter, Serach (סרח) is married to the Khazar ruler Sabriel. A Jew, she encourages her husband and other Khazars to convert to Judaism and establish it as the official religion of Khazaria. Serach is not mentioned in the Khazar Correspondence or the Kuzari.

Some scholars have postulated that the Khazar conversion to Judaism came as a result of contact with existing Jewish populations in the Crimea and the Caucasus, possibly the ancestors of the Krymchaks or Mountain Jews. As with so much of Khazar studies, the absence of documentary evidence renders the question of whether Serach belonged to one of these groups a matter of speculation.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Active Minds

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The result of the debate was delete. [[smoddy ]] 19:58, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Active Minds
Non-notable band KeithD (talk) 14:27, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. Al 15:07, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn band vanity. -- Etacar11   02:39, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable. Groeck 15:22, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - not notable - Tεx  τ  urε  16:36, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

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Photo of cranes on the bank of the Sheksna River in Cherepovets, Russia, taken by Robert Broadie on August 20 2005.

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Vasylkiv

Vasylkiv (Васильків,, Васильков, Vasilkov) is a city on the Stuhna River in Obukhiv Raion, Kyiv Oblast, central Ukraine. It hosts the administration of Vasylkiv urban hromada, one of the hromadas of Ukraine. First mentioned in the 10th century, Vasylkiv was incorporated as a city in 1796.

The city hosts Vasylkiv Air Base and is an industrial centre, producing electrical appliances and leather goods. Population:

History
Vasylkiv was founded in 988 CE, and fortified in the 11th century. According to the Primary Chronicle, it was the place where Vladimir the Great's numerous wives lived. After the Christianization of Kyiv, Vladimir built there a fortress and named it Vasilev, after his patron saint, Saint Basil (Vasily).

In the early 11th century, it was the birthplace of Saint Theodosius of Kiev. The Anthony and Theodosius Pechersky Church, built in the Ukrainian baroque style in the 1750s, commemorates both Theodosius and Anthony of Kiev.

In 1240, the city was destroyed by the invading Mongol Empire. It slowly recovered, and was incorporated as a city in 1796.

In 1658, the Russian military commander Yuri Baryatinsky defeated the army of hetman Ivan Vyhovsky's brother Konstantin near Vasylkiv, after the Ukrainian hetman switched sides in favour of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth.

The first medical quarantine house in Ukraine was established in Vasylkiv in 1740.

Through the seventeenth and early eighteenth centuries, Vasylkiv remained an obscure place, almost forgotten in spite of the glorious history and connection to many earlier historic events, it was put back on the map by an anecdotal story related to Catherine II of Russia. As per legend, while passing through it during the night, the carriage lost one wheel. Catherine II woke up from the sudden jerk, and asked the name of the town. When she fell asleep again, her servants repaired the wheel and the carriage moved again. She woke up again and upon learning that it is still Vasylkiv, she remarked : "A large town, indeed".

Russian troops in the city took part in the failed Decembrist revolt against the Russian Empire in 1825.

In 1918-1919, the city was liberated from Bolshevik control by the Ukrainian army several times, on February 28 the Battle of Vasylkiv took place. On April 5, the city was occupied by Ataman Zeleny's rebels, and the villagers of 7 surrounding villages joined these forces. During the liberation struggle, Marko Shlyakhovy, aka Ataman Karmelyuk, based a rebel-peasant unit in the Kladova tract near the village of Dzvinkova, which conducted combat operations against the occupiers together with Ataman Zeleni's units. Since 1920 - under Bolshevik rule. On August 24, 1919, during the offensive on Kyiv, Vasylkov was approached by units of the UNR Army. According to patrol reports, the city was occupied by enemy infantry. After the battle of Vasylkiv, the Black Zaporizhzhia Cavalry Regiment was freed from the occupying Russian troops.

Until 18 July 2020, Vasylkiv was incorporated as a city of oblast significance and served as the administrative center of Vasylkiv Raion even though it did not belong to the raion. In July 2020, as part of the administrative reform of Ukraine, which reduced the number of raions of Kyiv Oblast to seven, the city of Vasylkiv was merged into Obukhiv Raion.

In the early morning of 26 February 2022, Russian invasion forces landed near the city in an attempt to capture the Vasylkiv Air Base, resulting in the Battle of Vasylkiv. According to the city's mayor Natalia Balasinovich, the fighting had died down by later that day, with Ukraine still in possession of the city.

Claims have been made that Ukrainian aircraft shot down two Russian Ilyushin Il-76 aircraft transporting assault troops. According to Ukrainian accounts, the first plane was reportedly shot down at Vasylkiv airbase, “killing upwards of 250 elite Russian paratroopers with a single missile.” A second plane was also claimed to have been shot down over Bila Tserkva, which was allegedly carrying over 100 paratroopers. As of 18 January 2024, claims that Ukraine had killed 350 paratroopers in the downed planes were still unconfirmed by independent sources.

In the morning of 27 February 2022, Russian forces struck an oil depot in the city, leading to large explosions and fires.

Language
Distribution of the population by native language according to the 2001 census:

Notable people

 * Jerry Heil (born 1995) – singer, songwriter, and YouTuber
 * Mykola Melnychenko (born 1966) – security services and politics personality

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Wikipedia:Featured article review/Anatoly Karpov

Anatoly Karpov

 * Article is no longer a featured article

This article is rather inconsistent. Like many articles on the great GM's it skips a lot over their early career successes, also the name of the section itself is "Grandmaster", which is rather erroneous and could be more detailed. Furthermore, there are several inaccuracies in this article, one of which I corrected.

1. The first one was that Anatoly Karpov suffered a mental breakdown in his 1984 WCC match against Kasparov. While it is a fact that he lost 10kg, and suffered a physical collapse, and was subsequently hospitalised as a result, there is no evidence that Anatoly suffered any mental instability.

2. The article states that: "Korchnoi's offering to play under the Jolly Roger flag when he was denied the right to play under Switzerland's." This is false. Raymond Keene suggested to Korchnoi to play under this flag after being refused to play under the Netherlands flag.

3. The article states that: "Karpov's Dr. Zukhar who attempted to hypnotize Korchnoi during the game, to Korchnoi's mirror glasses to ward off the hypnotic stare." This has never been proven that Zukhar tried hypnotizing Korchnoi, and such accusations resulted because of an abberant association between Parapsychology and Zukhar. Korchnoi's reasons for the glasses were actually to ward off Karpov's stare, which had irritated him in their 1974 match. If the article is to mention such controversies, it is better being wrote in an uniequivocal neutral, factual style

Another problem with this article is that there isn't even a picture of the man himself, save a minute thumb of him playing Kasparov, which is a side-on photoshot anyway.--Knucmo2 14:29, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep for now All of the problems you raised can easily be corrected. Why not just edit the article to make the changes? I'm not convinced that these problems rise to the level of the article being removed. That said, the article needs references. Why not address these issues by editing the article and raising the issues on the article's talk page. If the issues are not addressed in a month or two, then I would vote to remove the article.--Alabamaboy 16:12, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep for now I agree with Alabama. In the specific case of the picture, there originally *was* a picture on it, but was removed due to the recent push to delete images with lack of information on its background.  -- Etaonish  18:39, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Even so, if the changes are made (they are not so 'easily' corrected), I don't believe the article is still near FAC quality. I would suggest as an alternative putting it through a few rounds of peer review.--Knucmo2 14:54, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Remove. The prose is not encyclopedic (the hyperbole in the intro is telling); the chronology moves backwards and forwards, and there is very little discussion of Karpov's actual chessplaying. It's like one of those bad band articles which gives a titles-only discography, a list of chart positions, and a roster of member changes, but never gets around to whether the band plays country&western, power pop, or death metal. Monicasdude 19:00, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Remove Not deserving of featured status. --Ryan Delaney talk 05:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC)


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Removed this line: "IK BEN LAURENS EN IK HOU VAN VIKTORIEN !! !! !! !!" 213.234.126.178 (talk) 09:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Moved Vik i vestnes to a separate page. It was placed at the bottom of the Vik -page. Someone should fix this.

I question the accuracy of the following statement:

"If we count in the villages of Feios and Fresvik over 4,000 people went from the Vik municipality."

The 1801 census counted 3257 people in the parish.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f11417&spraak=n&metanr=352 —Preceding unsigned comment added by IlexS (talk • contribs) 20:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:Predglyn

welcome to Wikipedia!

Here are a few helpful links to start you off: Avoiding common mistakes, How to edit a page, How to write a great article, Naming conventions, Manual of Style, Policies and guidelines, Help, Merging pages.

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TINDOMH
Hi Predglyn. First off, thanks for your interest in Wikipedia. I see you've made some good edits to some James Bond articles while you were here; that's most appreciated. If you want, you should hook up with Kevin (User:K1Bond007), our resident Bond expert. I'm sure he's got a project or two that you could help out with. Now concerning, TINDOMH. There's a couple of Wikipedia policies and guidelines at play here.

 * First off, many editors (in fact, most editors) interpret the Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information section of What Wikipedia is not as a requirement for notability before an article is included. In the case of TINDOMH, it has not made any kind of impact on the world at large, and no one outside of the Cambridge Astronomical Society group from 2002 would know what it was. Wikipedia is not an avenue for publicity, it only documents those things that are already notable.

 * Secondly, TINDOMH doesn't muster up to Verifiability. No reference (such as a newspaper article, or a book or website) is referenced in the article, thus other editors cannot verify its existence and notability without the use of Google. At Votes for deletion, Google is almost always used if no verifiable references are cited by the article in question.

I hope this answers your questions. If you can do anything to prove the encyclopedic merit of TINDOMH, I'll be happy to help you out, and I'll even rescind the VfD nomination if it's compelling enough. I hope that, regardless of what happens with TINDOMH, you stick around and continue to contribute to Wikipedia. Don't hesitate to drop me a line if you need any help in the future. Fernando Rizo T/C 18:05, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Predglyn, I replied to your most recent message on my talk page. Sorry it took me so long. Fernando Rizo T/C 01:16, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Bond
Good to see another Bond fan on Wikipedia :) I don't really have any projects going on. Just about every article could use work. :) If you've read Gardner's or Benson's novels though you should check those articles out because most are "stubs". I'm in the process of reading them and am unfortunately only up to Icebreaker - so I've got a long way to go. Heh. K1Bond007 16:50, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by appeared in Doubleshot? K1Bond007 16:37, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * My real name was used by the author (he asked my permission) as the name of one of its villains. Raymond Benson saw me on a newsgroup I used to frequent, and liked the sound of it, I think :) Predglyn 16:56, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Ahh alrighty then. Cool. K1Bond007 19:49, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Galileo
Thought you might like to know that I've just been contacted by someone keen to produce the show as a direct result of the Wikipedia article. Won't be as good as ours, though Chrislintott 10:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Cilydd

The article Cilydd has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. If you disagree and deprod this, please explain how it meets them on the talk page here in the form of 'This article meets criteria A and B because...' and ping me back through WP:ECHO or by leaving a note at User talk:Piotrus. Thank you."

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