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Talk:Raytheon BBN

BBN firsts
This article claims a long list of "firsts" for BBN. Most of them are correct, but one is I think wrong. For future reference, here's some info on all of them.

 * the first person-to-person network email sent - probably correct - see email for more.

 * the first Internet Protocol router - this is correct; it was written in BCPL (possibly BLISS-11, but I think it was BCPL) for the ELF operating system on the PDP-11 (the PDP-11/40, to be exact). I don't have a reference at hand, but I remember this quite well (from the late 70's, when I started working on my own IP router). Ginny Strazisar was working on it in 1977, but I don't know if she was the original author.

 * the first time-sharing system - I think this is correct, but there's some uncertainty. It was almost certainly one of the two PDP-1 systems: the first, at BBN, or the second, at RLE at MIT. (The McCarthy time-sharing demo on the 709 at MIT was earlier, but it wasn't really a service system.) According to Reminiscences On The History Of Time Sharing, "the BBN project was finished first in the summer of 1962"; Bell/Mudge/McNamara Computer Engineering says (pp. 140) that the "multi-user PDP-1 at MIT .. was operational in 1963". I'd like to see better confirmation on that (maybe research in the oral histories at the Babbage Institute), but it fits with McCarthy's memory.

 * the first link-state routing protocol - correct - the so-called "New ARPANET routing protocol" done by John McQuillan. Again, no ref at hand, but they are easy to find.

 * the first modem - this one is almost certainly incorrect. Depending on exactly how you define modem, it was either the SIGSALY system (which sent encrypted voice that was digitized - although they didn't have the term back then, or use it), or some of the early remote radar stuff done as part of Whirlwind (computer) work on the Cape Cod project.

I will therefore delete this last one unless someone can give me some reason why it is actually correct. Noel (talk) 17:13, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I have done some more research on this, and if SIGSALY was not the first modem, it appears to be a device created by John "Jack" Harrington of the Air Force Cambridge Research Lab in 1950, for sending radar data in digital form over analog phone lines. It thus seems very unlikely that BBN had anything to do with the first modems. So I'll delete that claim for now. It appears that this claim may be related to this entry:
 * 1963 - Designed and demonstrated the first voice modem, called DataDial, to enable remote communication with computers by telephone.
 * from this page on BBN's site. However, i) it's a long time after earlier devices, ii) that appears to be a particular kind of modem, and iii) in any event not enough technical details are given to be sure there was something really novel about this particular modem.
 * If anyone has any more data, I would be interested to see it. Noel (talk) 23:39, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I was an employee of BBN for 22+ years and for a number of those years worked closely with Wally Feurzeig, who is the source of the modem claim. It is not quite what you have outlined above. In the early days of the remote time-sharing experiments one of the questions was how to send digital data to a computer in a readily interpretable form. Since there were no modems or similar encoding standards at the time, the developers used touch-tone phone signals. For this project, which I cannot identify specifically (would have to ask Wally) the engineers noted that there seemed to be no previous art, or so they thought at the time. It is my understanding that a patent application was drafted on the use of frequency encoding to transmit digital data that was very general and would have likely covered every analog modem ever built since. In typical BBN fashion, the corporate attorney, Michael Nacey, declined to pursue the matter, apparently feeling the idea was without a future or significant technical merit. I am no judge of the claims or their validity, but it is my understanding that this is the development referred to in the BBN Timeline cited above. Ldmjr (talk) 19:07, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

IP Address Range
Should this article mention somewhere that BBN is among a handful of companies to be assigned an entire IP address range by IANA? Scott 110 07:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

GTE Aquisition
GTE bought BBN in the summer of 1997, not 1998.

Raytheon buys BBN
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/27/raytheon_bbn_purchase/

Should this be added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.195.185.225 (talk) 10:18, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done! ✅ KenBailey (talk) 22:03, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

In-q-tel and BBN?
The latest edit states the In-q-tel invested, but the reference doesn't support that. There is another reference which does (as an aside) - http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/blog/mass-high-tech/2008/11/thingmagic-in-q-tel-team-up-on-investment.html 71.191.247.90 (talk) 22:04, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

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Addresses are a bit muddled
My mind is a little fuzzy, but I helped this firm do a move of H.Q. in the early 2000s almost 20 years now. They *were* located @ 10 Fawcett Street at the time, in the building now housing the Social Security Administration (but they were on the upper most floors of that building.)

The location housing the laundromat I believe??? was across the street from this in a VERY non-descript building that you can see from the bus stop on Concord Avenue. There was a plaque or marker or something on the side of that building, or ground or something that said something about ARPANET but I cannot now remember where that was on the building.

In terms of where they were moving, they were going *TO* multiple buildings on Moulton Street but not so much to the high-rise part at the corner. That was part of the compound still, you enter there but you had to walk long halls to get down to the part where they were located. The corner was Verizon's xDSL Central Office etc. and later I believe was spun off as Level 3 Communications and later "Genuity". BBN employees mainly went into empty offices further down Moulton Street near #50 etc. CaribDigita (talk) 09:05, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

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Lamer Exterminator

Lamer Exterminator is a computer virus created for the Amiga. It was first detected in Germany in October 1989. It is a boot block virus contained in the first 1024 bytes of the disk.

It is notable as the first virus known to be defensive. It hooks into the system in such a way that examining a bootblock will return a normal result and upon replicating will also encrypt itself.

Variants of the virus are known to use one of three different decrypt routines defined by The Amiga Virus Encyclopedia. A detection program can look for any of the known decrypt routines on the boot block area of the disk, or alternatively try to blindly brute force decrypt them. The first decrypt routine is a simple XOR of every byte which only takes a maximum of 256 attempts to decrypt. The next includes an add byte in its decrypt routine, and takes a maximum of 256×256 attempts. The third uses 16 bit words in its decrypt routine, and takes a maximum of 65535×65535 attempts, which makes it less practical to solve. The first two versions (and variants that use the same decrypt routines), can also be identified as containing an identification word 0xABCD, as the last data on the boot block containing anything but zero values.

Symptoms

 * Overwrites the bootblock
 * Remains RAM resident (allocating 1024 bytes and identifying itself: 'The LAMER Exterminator !!!')
 * Hooks into the system (remaining reset-resident)
 * Destroys media blocks by overwriting them 84 times with the string 'LAMER!', causing read/write errors on affected storage media. This causes filesystem corruption and data loss, which is unrecoverable.

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Taizhou, Jiangsu

Taizhou is a city in Jiangsu in eastern China. Situated on the north bank of the Yangtze River, it borders Nantong to the east, Yancheng to the north and Yangzhou to the west.

The 2020 Chinese census counted its population at 4,512,762 of whom 1,504,014 live in the built-up (or metro) area made of three urban districts (Hailing, Jiangyan and Gaogang).

Administration and population
The prefecture-level city of Taizhou administers six county-level divisions, including two districts and four county-level cities.

These are further divided into 105 township-level divisions, including 91 towns, eight townships and six subdistricts.

At the end of 2019, the total household registration population was 5,005,500, and the birth population was 35,300 (birth rate 7.02%), a decrease of 1.37 thousand points from the previous year. 43,400 people died in 2019 (mortality rate 8.64%), an increase of 0.2 thousand points from the previous year. At the end of each year, the city's permanent population was 4,636,100, an increase of 400 over the previous year. At the end of 2019, the urbanization population of permanent residents reached 66.8%, an increase of 0.8 percentage points over the previous year.

Geography and climate
Taizhou lies at the confluence of the Yangtze River and the Jinghang Canal (Grand Canal of China), in the south-central Jiangsu Province, which is on the north bank of lower reaches of the Yangtze River, the south end of Jianghuai Plain. Its latitude ranges from about 32° 02′ — 33°11′ N and longitude 119° 38′ — 120° 32′ E, with a total area of 5793 sqkm.

Neighbouring areas: Yangzhou to the west, Nantong to the east, and Yancheng to the north.

As with the rest of central and southern Jiangsu, Taizhou has a humid subtropical climate (Köppen Cfa), influenced by the East Asian Monsoon, with cold, damp, but comparatively dry, winters, and hot, humid summers with copious rain. The normal monthly mean temperature ranges from 2.4 °C in January to 27.5 °C in July, while the annual mean is 15.36 °C. Nearly half of the mean annual rainfall of 1037 mm is distributed June to August.

History
Taizhou was known as Haiyang in the Spring and Autumn period, supposedly.

As a part of Linhuai Commandery, Hailing county was founded in what is modern-day Taizhou, during the Western Han. Its designation indicates it was a coastal elevated area. Hailing and its neighbourhood were taken away from Yangzhou to create a prefecture, Tai zhou, in 937 when Li Bian of the Southern Tang reigned over the area. In 939, Li kept the bereaved Yang family under house arrest at Yongning Palace, Taizhou, after Yang Pu's death.

Taizhou was elevated to lu (circuit) status in 1277, but restored and annexed by Yangzhou again, seven years later.

In the very beginning of Republican China, Tai zhou was turned into Tai county, taken by the CCP on 21 January 1949. Then the downtown of the county was separated to found Taizhou city, which was the seat of the Administrative Commission for Northern Jiangsu until November. The PLA Navy was established in Baimamiao, Tai county on 23 April 1949. The county and the city were merged into the new Tai county in May 1950, but restored in October. It was reconverted in 1958, but divided again in 1962.

Economy
Taizhou is a center for flour mills, textile works, fishing net manufacturing, and other industries based on local agriculture.

In the past 20 years, the economic growth has remained stable with an average annual growth rate exceeding 10%. It is one of the central cities inside the Yangtse River Delta with its developed industry, convenient transportation and prosperous commerce. In 2019, the GDP reached RMB 474.45 billion yuan, the GDP per capita RMB 110,731 yuan, equals to 16,024 dollars, the fiscal revenue RMB 37.5 billion yuan, the total amount of bank deposits RMB 688 billion yuan. Five county-level cities or districts are ranked among the "China's Top 100 Counties with Greatest Comprehensive Power". It boasts numbers of large-sized enterprises or groups, such as Chunlan Group Corp.

Taizhou was among the first few cities in Jiangsu to be recognized as having a famous cultural history. In 1990, Heheng village in Jiangyan County was awarded Global 500 Roll of Honor by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) because of its success in protecting the environment while increasing the grain yield and its wide use of marsh biogas ponds.

Taizhou's China Medical City (CMC) is a specialized development zone located south of downtown Hailing district; it has attracted major international and domestic corporations who have established facilities here since its establishment in 2010. To date, more than 800 pharmaceutical enterprises have located businesses and incubation centers in CMC. Pharma companies include AstraZeneca, Takeda Pharmaceutical, Boehringer-Ingelheim, CSPC Pharmaceutical Group and Neptunus Pharmaceutical, as well as Yangtze River Pharmaceutical Company.

Twin towns – Sister cities
Taizhou is twinned with:

Transportation
The G2 Beijing–Shanghai Expressway and Jiangsu Provincial Highway 29 (S29 Yancheng-Jingjiang Expressway; 盐靖高速公路) pass through the city from north to south, and Jiangsu Provincial Highway 28 (S28 Qidong-Yangzhou Expressway; 启扬高速公路) from west to east.

Taizhou Municipality has two Yangtze River crossings, the Taizhou Yangtze River Bridge from Gaogang District to Yangzhong and the Jiangyin Yangtze River Bridge from Jingjiang to Jiangyin.

The routes to get to Taizhou includes:
 * Take buses from Shanghai or Nanjing through the G2 Beijing–Shanghai Expressway, which passes south of the city center.
 * Take trains from Beijing through Xinyi–Changxing railway or Nanjing through Nanjing–Qidong railway.

Military
Taizhou is the headquarters of the East Sea Fleet of the People's Liberation Army Navy.

Companies headquartered in Taizhou

 * Chunlan Group Corp
 * Linghai Motorcycle Corp
 * Yangtze River Pharmaceutical Group
 * Oberon Dishwashing Equipment Manufacturing Co. Ltd

Tourism
Qintong Boat Festival is held in Qingming (around April 4–6) every year. During the festival boats from nearby villages and towns converge on Xique Lake for a few days of rejoicing. Theatrical performances, dragon and lion dances, and other folk dances are staged right on board the boats. The lake located in Qingtong town, 15 km north of Jiangyan city. The water comes from the Nanhu (南湖), Xique (喜鹊湖), and Beihu (北湖) rivers. It is part of Qintong Swamp. Biggest reserve outside of Dafeng.
 * Gardens and Parks
 * Qintong Boat Festival, Jiangyan (溱潼会船节)
 * Xique Lake, Jiangyan (喜鹊湖)
 * Père David's Deer Reserve, Jiangyan (麋鹿故乡园)
 * Taizhou Park
 * Heheng Agricultural Tour, Shengao, Jiangyan
 * Museum
 * Navy Birthplace Museum
 * Hu Jintao Birthplace Museum, Jiangyan
 * Gao Ershi Museum, Jiangyan
 * Mei Lanfang Garden, opposite of 'Old Street;'

Colleges and schools

 * Taizhou High School (江苏省泰州中学)
 * Jingjiang High School (江苏省靖江中学)
 * Taizhou No. 2 High School (江苏省泰州二中)
 * Jiangyan High School (江苏省姜堰中学)
 * Taixing High School (江苏省泰兴中学)
 * Xinghua High School (江苏省兴化中学)

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My name is Orinmoon, I have begun contributing to the comic book fantasy side of Wikipedia. I live in the UK, I am 17 years old and a major new comic book fan. My favourite characters are the Flash and Green Lantern. Email me at megas_2006@btinternet.com for a chat about comic books anytime!

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Johan Thorn Prikker

Johan Thorn Prikker (6 June 1868, The Hague - 5 March 1932, Cologne) was a Dutch artist who worked in Germany after 1904. His activities were very eclectic, including architecture, lithography, furniture, stained-glass windows, mosaics, tapestries and book covers as well as painting. He also worked in a variety of styles; such as Symbolism, Impressionism and Art Nouveau.

Biography
He was the son of a house painter. From 1881 to 1887, he was enrolled at the Royal Academy of Art, but left without completing his studies. In 1890, his friend Jan Toorop introduced him to the work of the Belgian art group, Les XX, who he exhibited with. Two years later, Joséphin Péladan gave him a similar introduction to the Salon de la Rose + Croix. Much of his painting, in the Symbolist style, was done during this period, from 1891 to 1895. In 1898, he became artistic director of the "Arts & Crafts" gallery in The Hague, which sold many Art Nouveau items and furnishings in addition to art works. He began designing furniture at this time, inspired by the work of Henry Van de Velde, who he had met in Belgium. That same year, he was married, but his wife died from a miscarriage only a year later. In 1900, he had a falling-out with the gallery's founder, Chris Wegerif (1859-1920), and resigned. The following year he joined with Van Velde and Johan Coenraad Altorf to create the "Villa De Zeemeeuw" (seagull) in Scheveningen for the dermatologist and art patron W.J.H. Leuring (?-1936); striving to make it a true Gesamtkunstwerk.

Despite this success, the clash between his aesthetics and the prevailing art styles, which was behind his departure from the gallery, continued. In addition, his political beliefs caused him to receive bad press (he was an anarchist when most of the Dutch art world favored socialism), which had a negative effect on his ability to obtain work. In 1904, he decided to move to Germany.

With help from the art historian and museum director, Friedrich Deneken, he was able to obtain a teaching position in Krefeld at the new "Handwerker- und Kunstgewerbeschule". This gave him a free hand to create furniture and fabric designs. He also took his students on field trips to show them the pleasures of painting en plein air.

In 1910, he left Krefeld for Hagen to participate in the avant-garde movement being sponsored and promoted by Karl Ernst Osthaus. He soon received numerous commissions for murals, mosaics and stained-glass windows, including those at the Gesellenhaus (meeting hall) in Neuss, designed by Peter Behrens. During his stay in Hagen, he was a teacher at the Kunstgewerbeschule in Essen and remarried. His son from that marriage, Hein Thorn Prikker became a well-known professional motorcycle racer. During the years 1917 and 1918 in Essen, he taught the young Josef Albers his stained-glass making techniques, which impacted greatly Albers’ oeuvre.

After a short stay in Überlingen from 1919 to 1920, he moved to Munich where he taught glass-painting and monumental art, then transferred to the Kunstakademie Düsseldorf, followed by the Cologne Art and Craft Schools in 1926. He remained there until his death. During his last decade, he focused on mosaics and stained-glass.

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Talk:Elias

Helios > Elias
Can you cite a source for the Helios > Elias etymology? It's pretty well established that Elias is simply the Greek version of Elijah. The Hebrew suffix -yahu, rendered -iah or -jah in English is consistently replaced with -ias in Greek, as seen in Isaiah/Esaias, Jeremiah/Jeremias, etc. Pterodactyler 17:17, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, I'd like a source for this too. I didn't add the Helios part. EliasAlucard|Talk 19:43, 30 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

 * Please be aware, the Greeks long had a civilisation before Elijah, and so the name may have already existed as a pagan name. The prophet Elijah practiced his ministry in Israel during the reigns of King Ahab (874-853 BC). By that stage the Minion civilisation had already come and gone a good 1000 years before. The beginning of the rise of the polis (city-state), is believed to be 900 BC.
 * The argument that Elias is just a reworded version of Elijah is part truth. I believe both names existed, however the pagan Greek name was christianised and linked to Elijah according to the Old Testament, because of the similarity. To me, it makes perfect sense, given that old pagan names were incorporated into the christian religion, when Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire (of which the Greeks were subjects). Pagan feasts, names, and practices were incorporated into the new religion to ease the transition - and that fact is well documented if you doubt it.
 * Elijah was linked to the sun, which suggests why Hebrew 'Elijah' was linked to Greek 'Elias:
 * "Sometimes the sun was associated with immortality by a quirk of early Christian etymology - the prophet Elijah, Elias, who did not die, was linked with the sun, helios, as in the Cemetery of Peter and Marcellinus, where a nimbed sun, representing the prophet, guides a chariot to the heavens." (Source: http://www.pythagorean.org/Renaissance/fried.htm)

 * The following paragraph, perfectly describes my view on the issue, as I have always known it (source: http://www.ctlibrary.com/9342)
 * "The Chapel of St. Elias is at the top of one of the highest hills in the area. In pagan times, these spots were reserved for temples to Helios, the sun god; the closer one got to the clouds, the closer one was to his presence. When Greece began to adopt Christian traditions, St. Elias naturally emerged as the completion of this originally pagan idea; his vanishing into the clouds on a chariot of fiery horses made the perfect image of a saint whose province is the sun and sky. It is one of many ways in which the Greeks have reconciled their pagan beliefs with Christian truths, not watering down the Scriptures in any ..."

 * For anyone visiting Greece, look at the highest peak of any island, or region, and it is ALWAYS "Profitis Elias". Does any other culture do that?

Elias 14:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Certainly Elias was later identified with Helios, and the similarity of the two names undoubtedly played a role, but that's not the origin of the name Elias. The name entered the Greek language as a translation of the name Elijah. That it "may have already existed as a pagan name" is pure conjecture unless you can cite evidence. The evidence you've given so far only shows that after Elijah was introduced to the Greeks he was conflated somewhat with Helios. Pterodactyler 16:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * What Pterodactyler says is true. The Greeks did this with many names. For example, the Aramaic phonetic pronounciation of Jesus' disciples names changed. Anyway, that's all I have to say. EliasAlucard|Talk 18:43, 31 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

 * Fair enough, point taken. It'd be good if we could add some more information on the page, because it is fairly bland at the moment.Elias 18:34, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes. Checking other encyclopedias is a good start :) EliasAlucard|Talk 21:30, 31 Aug, 2005 (UTC)

 * The use of "Elias" as a translation of "Elijah" is not of Christian origin; it goes back to the Septuagint, which was the Greek translation of the Old Testament made by Alexandrian Jews, prior to the birth of Jesus. MishaPan (talk) 18:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

 * In case anyone is reading this thread... please see my recent edits, fully supported with reliable sources. --Macrakis (talk) 22:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

"Elias" cannot be derived from the Greek "Helios" becaise the initial /h/ is missing. More precisely, Ἠλίας is written with a spiritus lenis, whereas Ἥλιος is written with a spiritus asper. Andreas (T) 20:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Persian meaning?
I have been told - my name being "Elias" (read my username backwards...) - that "Elias" is a persian word, meaning something along the lines of "Wisee man". Can anyone verify this? Saile 22:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

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I made some edits - mostly adding a blockquote from Fermor's book "Mani" - but it appears that content after this blockquote no longer shows. It's in the actual page if you edit it, so I am thinking it has someting to do with the template perhaps? 58.110.150.171 11:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Elias is correct. To say that Elias came from Ἥλιος is silly. It's the kind of paretymology that's quite understandable (even charming) among the folk or in the middle ages, but really indefensible nowadays. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tzetzes (talk • contribs) 03:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Merger

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
 * Go ahead with merge.. There seems to be consensus for this action. -GTBacchus(talk) 04:39, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

This page is a content fork with Elijah. The material contained here overlaps to a large degree with the chapter Elijah in that page. There are two ways to go: or
 * Merge and incorporate the material into the Elijah article
 * Restricty the article to the Christian tradition. It that case this shoulc be explained in the lead section, and a reference should be created in the Prophet Saint of the Elijah article. Andreas  (T) 14:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Merge Clearly a content fork. Surely we're not going to start separating all the Hebrew Bible figures into separate Jewish/Christian/Muslim articles unless they simply get too large and unwieldy.  --Macrakis (talk) 06:29, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Partial merge of only the info about Elias as a religious figure, including Helios and Mormonism. Leave the intro, infobox and variants as a WP:Anthroponymy page. Merge in the list of people with the name from Elias (disambiguation). Add the list of people called Elijah from Elijah (disambiguation). I would be inclined to keep the surname lists on the same page as the longer given name lists. - – Fayenatic (talk) 07:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge - but leaving a disamb. page as Fayenatic suggests. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Elias = Helios
The identification of Elias with Helios seems probalbe, but has to be backed by reliable sources. Notice that Ἥλιος = Helios has a spiritus asper (meaning that the /h/ was pronounced), whereas Ἠλίας = Elias has a spiritus lenis. However, at the time when Christianity arose, the difference in the pronunciation had disappeared. Andreas (T) 14:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

 * I have looked into this a bit -- please see my recent edits to the article. --Macrakis (talk) 06:30, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This piece gives a good explanation on the link: https://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2016/07/greek-folk-traditions-and-prophet-elias.html Elias (talk) 06:13, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Frequent edits removing reference to Elijahu
Over the years of existece of this article, there have been many edits, mostly by anonymous editors, to remove any connection betseen "Elias" anad "Elijah" or "Elijahu". This has been recurrenly done in the previous two months by 108.6.177.184, 71.183.45.196 , 205.157.206.29 , 74.101.165.59 (the latter starting 7 Mat 2011). These edits are most probably done by editors of Mormon faith. No explanation has ever been given at the discussion page. The distinction of Elias and the prophet Elijah made by mormons is however explained in the Elijah article.

See also my edit at Talk:Elijah. Andreas (T) 17:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Elias Parish-Alvars (or Parish Alvars)
Hello, i'm trying to add Elias Parish-Alvars to the list but the wiki article says that it can be spelled with or without the hyphen. Should i place it in the A's or in the P's? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.2.192.154 (talk) 22:56, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:1896 in architecture

Vienna Secession building
According to the respective articles, the secession group was founded in 1897 and the building completed in 1898? --Ikar.us 17:17:25, 2005-08-30 (UTC)

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Yau Kin Wai

Yau Kin Wai (born 4 January 1973) is a former Hong Kong professional footballer who played as a defender.

Club career
Yau had played for Hong Kong First Division League club South China for more than 10 years and is regarded as one of the most decorated defenders in Hong Kong. He had been voted as the Hong Kong Footballer of the Year in the 1998–99 season and had been voted as Hong Kong Top Footballers for 6 times.

Yau retired from professional football at the end of the 2004–05 season.

Club

 * South China
 * Hong Kong First Division: 1996–97, 1999–2000
 * Hong Kong Senior Shield: 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2001–02, 2002–03
 * Hong Kong FA Cup: 1995–96, 1998–99, 2001–02

Individual

 * Hong Kong Footballer of the Year: 1999

Personal life
After retirement, Yau concentrated his career as a soccer commentator and in youth development. He is now a soccer commentator of Cable TV and mostly commentating Premier League matches.

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Fosterville, New Brunswick

Fosterville is a rural community located in western York County, New Brunswick, Canada, mainly on Route 122

Situated on the Canada–United States border in the parish of North Lake, Fosterville has a small population but is popular in the summer months with cottage owners from the state of Maine and surrounding areas in New Brunswick. The local Fire Department is also based in Fosterville as well as a church.

History
The community was home to a school up until the late 1980s when it was closed by the New Brunswick Department of Education. The building was taken over by the community and turned into a community centre. In 2004 the building was removed and replaced with a new, modern structure to meet the needs of the parish.

On November 26, 1924 two young girls from the town were murdered in their half-uncle's cabin. Darius Thornton, who changed his name to Harry D. Williams to evade his ex-wife, shot both of the girls in the head. Thornton had served in the Canadian military for four years, and was well liked by the community. It is believed that Thornton had a strong interest in the older of the two girls.

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Gastón Suárez

Gastón Suárez (born January 27, 1929 – November 6, 1984) was a Bolivian novelist and dramatist. Suárez was born in the town of Tupiza in the southern part of Potosí, Bolivia in 1929.

A self-taught writer, Suárez abandoned elementary school at third grade, following a traumatizing event in which his teacher suffered an epilepsy attack while reading for him. Ironically, his mother, who was also a rural teacher, accepted to home-school him. When he was ten, after reading Dick Sand, A Captain at Fifteen by Jules Verne and Jerry of the Islands by Jack London he promised and swore himself to become, some day, a writer.

By the end of the 1950s he decides to fulfill his promise. He quits his job as a banking employee from the Bolivian Mining Bank and buys a truck to travel and know his country in depth. Throughout almost two years of long trips all over Bolivia, he writes simultaneously several of his short stories and finalizes the first draft of his play Vértigo. A few months later he decides to dedicate fully to write literature and make a living out of it.

He performed diverse activities: railroader, rural teacher, miner, bank employee, truck driver, journalist, etc. He had the opportunity to live and feel the Bolivian life in its diverse social layers. This is reflected with a particular vision in the subjects he writes most about: urban life, the country and the mines.

"... Suárez goes beyond the simple fact and further than the anecdote. He subtly unveils transcendental situations. Acute observer of the human behavior, he is the most outstanding writer of psychological introversion amongst the boom of Bolivian narrators."

His first work was a story book titled "A vigil for the last trip" (Vigilia para el último viaje), from which "Illuminated" (Iluminado) was extracted to be included in several anthologies of Latin American writers, as a remarkable example of brief narration. Amongst his works also stands out "The Gesture" (El Gesto) another book of short stories from which "The stranger and the silver candelabrum (El forastero y el candelabro de plata)" and "The diary of Mafalda" (El diario de Mafalda) are the most outstanding.

In 1967, Suárez published his first piece for theatre, Vértigo, a drama of social and philosophical depth that depicts the life of a man being freed after twenty years in prison and his efforts to gather his seven children who have all taken different paths in life. Vertigo was screenplayed and presented in Jornadas Julianas de la Juventud in 1967, winning the first prize.

His most famous novel is Mallko, published in 1974. It narrates the life of a humanized Condor ("a Mallko" as it is named in the Amerindian language Aymara). The novel has elements of fiction and magic realism, but ends up being much more than that. It is at the same time a vivid, real and crude narration of the life of the Andean man. It is a philosophical reflection on the man's faith of meeting his own destiny and the need to survive in isolation and constant need. It is virtually a compulsory text in Bolivia, Spain and in the signatory countries of the Andean Zone. In 1976 Mallko was included in the Honour List of the Hans Christian Andersen Award and described as "an exceptional example of literature with international importance". In 1979, the International Year of the Child, he published another novel The adventures of Miguelín Quijano (Las aventuras de Miguelín Quijano), in which he works with metaphors and references with respect to the quixotic characters to obtain a beautiful parable that ignites the creative imagination of the children and incites their interest for the immortal book of Miguel de Cervantes.

In 1981 he published Beyond the Winter (Despues del Invierno), a drama portraying the dilemma of two brothers (Melitón and Benjamin) facing the decision of staying and caring their old ailing father or to go on with their own lives.

Suárez died in the city of La Paz in November 1984, the victim of a sudden heart failure.

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Prince and Great Steward of Scotland

Prince and Great Steward of Scotland is one of the titles of the heir apparent to the British throne. The holder since 8 September 2022 is Prince William, who bears the other Scottish titles of Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Lord of the Isles and Baron of Renfrew.

Principality of Scotland
The Principality of Scotland originated in a time when Scotland was a separate kingdom prior to entering a political union with England in 1707. The title was held as an appanage by the heir apparent to the Scottish throne, and is still vested in the heir apparent to the British throne. In addition to being Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, the heir apparent is also Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Baron of Renfrew, and Lord of the Isles.

In modern times, the prince remains paramount superior in these lands (whilst the Crown serves this role in the rest of Scotland). The Abolition of Feudal Tenure etc. (Scotland) Act 2000, however, abolished most remaining feudal duties and privileges attaching to the principality, leaving the prince's status as mainly titular. Prior to the 2000 Act, the principality was entirely feued out to tenants and brought in a small income. All title deeds in Ayrshire and Renfrewshire are required to be sealed with the prince's seal. Revenue gained from feudal dealings were counted as income for the Duchy of Cornwall, a more substantial estate also held by the monarch's eldest son who is heir apparent.

Great Steward

The Great Steward of Scotland, also known as the High Steward of Scotland, is an officer who controls the domestic affairs of a royal household. In the 12th century King David I of Scotland gave the title to Walter fitz Alan, a nobleman from Brittany, whose descendants adopted the surname "Steward", later "Stewart" and later founded the royal House of Stewart. A junior branch of the Stewart family descended from the younger son of Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland (d.1283), namely "Stewart of Darnley", paternal ancestors of King James I & VI, lived for several generations in France, when the name became spelt in the French manner "Stuart" and "Dernelé". In 1371 Robert Stewart, 7th High Steward of Scotland inherited the throne of Scotland via his mother and became King Robert II of Scotland, when the title or office of High Steward of Scotland merged into the crown. However it was re-granted by the monarch to his elder son and heir apparent, together with the titles Duke of Rothesay (created 1398), Baron of Renfrew (created 1404), Earl of Carrick (created 1186) and Lord of the Isles (created c. 875). Thus, currently, the Prince of Wales is Great Steward of Scotland, sometimes known as the Prince and Great Steward of Scotland.

Use of titles
Since James VI also became the King of England and Ireland in 1603, the titles have fallen from habitual use, the holder from then on usually also being Duke of Cornwall, Prince of Wales and Duke of Rothesay, which were preferred, and is now seldom referred to, except as the last in the conventional list of the Prince of Wales's titles.

Similar to the process of Crown consent, Parliament shall not debate whether a bill affecting (directly or by implication) the personal property or interests of the Prince and Great Steward of Scotland be passed or approved unless such consent to those provisions has been signified at a meeting of the Parliament. In the Scottish Parliament, such consent is signified by a member of the Scottish Government.

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Seems like you like rubber band guns a lot, have you been doing anything with that in the past well...fifteen years? I would really like to see how you are doing, because rubber band gun making has almost been entirely taken over by legos, with only a few of the original wooden creators (such as yourself) still around. I know that you don’t know me, but I was looking for some tips for hopefully a not forgotten hobby of yours. RadBaeron (talk) 15:51, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Form and style may be indicative of ability, but not important factors: that would be the other way around
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Neuromantic (ニウロマンティック) is Yukihiro Takahashi's self-produced 1981 album and featured his YMO colleagues Haruomi Hosono and Ryuichi Sakamoto on keyboards, as well as contributions from Tony Mansfield of New Musik and Roxy Music's Phil Manzanera and Andy Mackay. The title is a pun on the early 1980s British fashion movement, the New Romantics.

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Pseudonym?
According to the Bravo Two Zero article, this is his real name. Have confirmed this elsewhere. Beanbatch 17:23, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Have met the man. I confirm that this is not his real name. It is indeed a pseudonym. Edward Grefenstette 02:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't get it, he is now a public figure, an author, on TV, etc..why maintain the pseudonym? Part of the SAS mystique?--Hooperbloob 05:44, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Because that's how he's known? I doubt Fred Boggis's Survival Tips would sell quite as well, somehow. PeteVerdon 23:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Heard it's part of the SAS policy. If I'm not right, please correct me. 70.68.46.180 05:46, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I believe it is, but he hasn't exactly kept within the spirit, if not the letter, of SAS policy already. I personally think it's to protect himself and his family. On his real name being boring... well I know his surname and that's not too boring or geeky. Still, I shall say no more on the subject. 84.64.199.150 19:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Chris was never a member of the Parachute Regiment. He went straight into 22 SAS as a territorial. He did however spend a brief period with the paras to get a parent regiment something they did then. It was common practice for anyone not serving in a regular army unit to do that then. Royal Navy, RAF and even Royal Marines but is a system that has become defunct now.

hmmmmm.... nice fairytale mate. Ryan IS a pseudonym, let's please stop bringing this into question. some of you may be confused as to why he uses a pseudonym but doesn't hide his face, but it doesn't matter, it will remain an unanswered querie. just to reconfirm, regardless of what some of you have heard from your cousin's best friend's mother's uncle, or elsewhere, ryan IS a pseudonym. —The preceding comment was added on unknown date.

Hey,

I just wondered if anyone could answer this question. If 'Chris Ryan' is indeed not his real name, and the name is a Pseudonym, then why on the cover of 'Chris Ryan's SAS Fitness Book' and at the back of his books is there a picture of him?

Note: (P.S) : I thought his name and his face had to be secret? —The preceding comment was added on unknown date.

 * You can choose to keep your name OR your face secret - or BOTH. You don't have to keep both if you want one. I can confirm that "Ryan" is a pseudonym, and you people should respect that. Maybe none of you know how it is to live with terror threats over your head, but I happen to know how it is and it's not something you want to play around with. He should be able to write books without people crying out for his name to be publicized. Same applies to "Andy McNab". To the person who tried to publicize what they thought was his real name earlier: you should be ASHAMED of yourself. I'm sorry that you have an unsated curiosity and want to know everything - but you're playing with a man's life here. Nimloth250 (talk) 16:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Nimloth250

What is OP?
Hi!

OP? what on earth is OP? How on earth can an initial be used with no reference to what it stands for.

Also the phrase '...made eye contact with the patrol' could of course be expressed succinctly as 'saw them.'

Dixie

 * An OP is an observation post and I've clarified this in the article. DavidB601 08:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Chris Ryan ain't his real name. He used it when he was held by the Syrians. Besides he knows things about the regiment. If he used his real name, enemies could track him and his family down and squeeze him for information which would endanger SAS troopers and their families.

Right... i believe that the Pseudonym is part of the policy, as a few programmes on tv lately are interviewing past members of the regiment and a few have blanked out faces. Now, has anyone thought that maybe, they have several choices; firstly, they can have a pseudonym. Secondly, they can have a pseudonym and general media blackout (so to speak) or their third ption could be to just not have any secrecy and risk it. ALthough, it could depend on what ops they've been on and how long they've been out of the regiment. Anyhow, thats my say, hope it's either switched on a few light bulbs or cleared some things up. if not, well, tough.

Oh, and has anyone actually noticed a striking similarity between Chris Ryan (ex SAS) on Chris Ryan's Elite World Police tv show and Mike from the Young Ones? just throwing it out there..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.166.60 (talk) 18:45, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

One Blank Too Far?
Is somebody able to confirm that Chris Ryan has (or is planning) to write this book as I've checked elsewhere on the Internet and cannot find anything about it. I've removed it but if someone does find something about it then feel free to put it back under Non Fiction. DavidB601 18:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Based in aden??
How could Chris Ryan have been based in Aden during the british withdrawl... The withdrawl happened in 1967, Ryan was born in 1961 and didn't join the terratorial SAS until 1984? WikipedianProlific(Talk) 12:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The same question I wanted to pose - Chris Ryan was 6 when the British pulled out of Aden, this is clearly a spurious edit and should surely be removed?

Yes I was just about to make this exact comment! Since the above comment was from 2007 I am going to take this bit out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.86.243.150 (talk) 10:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The quote is true. I made sure the reference given was correct, by looking up the page given in the reference and it says specifically how he parachuted into Aden because law and order was breaking down, no one mentioned a war.

Where does it specifically say "they parachuted into the sea to secure the beach heads whilst the British pulled out."? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snakehands (talk • contribs) 12:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

"but after 3 weeks they were ordered to return to 22nd SAS to go with 'B'Squadron to Aden where they parachuted into the sea to secure the beach heads whilst the British pulled out."

Shear fantasy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snakehands (talk • contribs) 18:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Changing the pseudonym 'Chris Ryan' to his actual name
Because this article is about a real person, I intend to edit the name 'Chris Ryan' to his actual name. I am aware that this is going to cause an uproar from 'Ryan' devoteees, however the edit is verifiable, and most importantly, it is the right thing to do for the sake of encyclopedic content: Wikipedia is not a soapbox and additionally, Wikipedia is not censored.

Not that it is required, but below is a brief justification for those who disagree that Wikipedia should inform readers about the truth behind their 'war hero'.

Legality

 * the British Official Secrets Act 1989 does not specify any legal restrictions on naming current nor ex-SAS personell.
 * Fellow patrol member 'Andy McNab' has stated "It's not a rule, it's common sense".
 * The real name of 'Ryan' was published by the British Government themselves In The London Gazette in 1998 after he had left the SAS, and is still available online from the original British Government source.

Privacy

 * Peer review and scrutiny is standard practice for all academic work, and when an autobiographer makes themself the subject of such a work, privacy is the price they knowingly pay. For the purpose of making a profit from authoring books, 'Ryan' has made himself the subject of one autobiography; The One That Got Away (1995).
 * When publishing the novel The One That Got Away, 'Ryan' demonstrated no consideration for the privacy of Vincent Phillips, Steven Lane and Bob Consiglio, all of whom he named, whilst not naming himself.
 * The verifiability of 'Ryan's' actual name, is solely due to his own actions in promoting himself as a Military Medal recipient. If 'Ryan' really cared about the privacy of his real name, he would not have included this distinguishing title in his pseudonym.

Security

 * 'Ryan' regularly attends book signings  and is available for motivational public speaking both actions which would contradict any serious claim for security.
 * 'Ryan's' former boss, ex-SAS Regimental Sergeant Major and fellow Gulf War veteran, Peter Ratcliffe has scorned 'Ryan's' use of a pseudonym, stating Ryan is not "serving in the regiment any longer. So what possible reason could [he] have for concealing [his] true identity?".
 * There are no quoted sources in Chris Ryan's wiki article that claim any security reasons for his pseudonym.

Verifiability

 * 'Ryan' has always used the initials 'MM' as part of his title when authoring books. 'MM' refers to the 'Military Medal' 'Ryan' won during Operation Granby, Gulf War, 1991. Only 15 MMs were awarded in this operation ; the names of each recipient publically appearing in the London Gazette. Only 8 of these were awarded to members of the Special Air Service, 5 of which were ex-Parachute Regiment (as 'Ryan' has stated was his parent regiment in The One That Got Away (1995)), and one of these (Robert Consiglio) was awarded posthumously leaving only four names; Melville, Armstrong, Dunbar and Yoursten. Of these four, Yoursten works for Olive Security Group using his real name and the service numbers of both Melville (24355763) and Dunbar (24388481) pre-date that of even Steven Mitchell (24428654), who served in the British army for two years before 'Ryan' enlisted. By a structured process of elimination, using only British Government published sources and 'Ryan' himself, 'Chris Ryan' is most certainly Colin Armstrong . --Mr Pillows (talk) 02:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There's nothing 'secret' about it, as I understand Peter Ratcliffe has made clear. For me it's more a case of being a sport and letting the parade go by. I'd compare it to the Banksy article. His name isn't secret either, there's just no need to publish it here. Hakluyt bean (talk) 03:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
 * (For context, another editor had gone through and replaced all identifying information with "secret" and "classified" in the above section, before Hakluyt Bean replied. Mr Pillows was alleging that "'Chris Ryan' is most certainly Colin Armstrong", not "'Chris Ryan' is most certainly secret". --McGeddon (talk) 19:10, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Response to the proposal
If your strongest source for the author's real name is your own personal "structured process of elimination", then this goes strongly and clearly against WP:SYN ("Do not put together information from multiple sources to reach a conclusion that is not stated explicitly by any of the sources."). Editors' personal theories and research are not reliable sources, especially for a biographical article, which must hold to WP:BLP. --McGeddon (talk) 10:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Comment. Wihout regard to above the article should be named using the most usual name he is known by - See Saki for an example Kernel Saunters (talk) 11:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Ghost Written
It is surely well-known, and can be easily checked on the web, that Chris Ryan's books are ghost-written by a variety of different authors. Surely then this entry should make this clear? Wiki-pedia is meant to be a soource of information, and so it is surely wrong to describe him as an 'author'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.102.20.12 (talk) 13:46, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Laughable claim, and as such don't post suggestions like that without clearly referencing to reliable sources (blogs, for instance, will not do) that state this explicitly with irrefutable proof. I know we all love to throw dirt on people who have achieved more than us, but for god's sake. It seems from the writing style that some of his later books may be ghost written (again, just speculation from my part and I have the humility not to represent it as fact), but trying to put doubt on his status as an author is just laughable and you ought to know better. Nimloth250 (talk) 05:44, 14 April 2012 (UTC)Nimloth250

Real name in lead
Given there's an edit war over this at the moment, does Michael Asher's book explicitly identify Ryan or is it the same network of speculation listed above? Should we be framing it as "the pseudonym of a Special Forces operative, thought by Michael Asher to be Colin Armstrong"? I can't find any other obvious sources that identify him. --McGeddon (talk) 10:33, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Asher never served in 22 SAS and his book is flawed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.89.56 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 26 January 2010

 * First claim true - as for the second one, EVERYONE'S book is flawed. Unless you want to assign yourself to the "Mcnab faction", the "Ryan faction" and so on and so forth, you're going to have to accept that each and every author lied at least a little bit in their books. In either case, your childish comment is irrelevant. Nimloth250 (talk) 05:46, 14 April 2012 (UTC)Nimloth250

Don't get it...
"planned to spend three months with the Parachute Regiment at Falklands, and stayed there for 3 months before returning back to England, where they parachuted into the sea to secure the beach heads whilst the British pulled out"

Into which sea did he parachute?

Which beach heads was he securing?

From where were the British pulling out?

Is this tied up with the Aden quotes I've read? They seem to have all gone. "At Falklands"? Do they mean the Falkland Islands?

The passage doesn't make much sense to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.183.25 (talk) 21:38, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

"Geordie"
Relating to his books, does the character Geordie Sharp in some of his books come in because of his internal SAS time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.58.106.2 (talk) 05:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Pilger/Khmer Rouge quote
The source for this states:
 * "Last March, the former SAS soldier Chris Ryan, now a best-selling author, lamented in a newspaper interview “when John Pilger, the foreign correspondent, discovered we were training the Khmer Rouge in the Far east [we] were sent home and I had to return the £10,000 we’d been given for food and accommodation”.

Checking back, the interview appears to be this one on the Daily Mail's 'This is Money' site. The full text reads:
 * HAVE YOU EVER BEEN IN DEBT?
 * Yes, in 1984 when I was in the SAS. The worst time was when John Pilger, the foreign correspondent, discovered we were training the Khmer Rouge in the Far East.
 * We were sent home and I had to return the £10,000 we'd been given to pay for food and accommodation. Unfortunately, I'd already spent the money kitting out my new home.

Pilger's use of the word "lamented" implies that Ryan was sorry that the training was stopped, when from the fill context it's clear that it caused him financial problems, because he'd already spent some/all of it. The latter may be an issue, but it has very little to do with the main issue of KR training by the SAS. I am therefore amending the text accordingly. Nick Cooper (talk) 15:06, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

 * I put in the "This is Money" reference as it is the original source, and the quote can be seen in context. The £10,000 are irrelevant to the issue, so that part of the quote could be removed, or alternatively, the whole paragraph should be quoted. --Zipor haNefesch (talk) 12:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

"Discharged from the SAS" for medical reasons?
"During his escape, Ryan suffered injuries from drinking water contaminated with nuclear waste. Besides suffering severe muscle atrophy, he lost a potentially fatal 16.32 kg (36.0 lb) and did not return to operational duties. Instead, he selected and trained potential recruits, finally being honourably discharged from the SAS in 1994."

Yet he claims to have participated in an operation in Zaire in October 1991?

http://chrisryansas.blogspot.com/2012/08/my-most-dangerous-ever-mission.html

Is this more fictional derring-do from "Chris Ryan"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.189.250 (talk) 17:47, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

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Hurricane Katrina and Repent America
I have reverted this sentence because I believe Repent America's comments are germane to the article, especially the section on Hurricane Katrina. It is a fact that this organization put out a press release and I see no POV in the way it is presented. --Ektar 21:30, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * While it is a fact that they issued a press release, I question whether they are notable enough to be included in this article. If I issued a press release about McDonald's saying that Chicken McNuggets were made of people, would that be worthy of inclusion in the McDonald's article? tregoweth  21:35, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * That argument is some what of a straw man. The RA press release has gotten a good amount of press coverage. It is certainly notable. I doubt you would get much attention from anyone if you were to put out a press release about McDonald's Chicken McNuggets. But if by some chance your hypothetical press release were to make headlines, I believe a single sentence in the Chicken McNuggets article wouldn't exactly be extraneous. --Ektar 03:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Oh! You did. Just click on the number.
 * The problem is that their press release has been misquoted. They never say that they believe Huricane Katrina was sent because of Southern Decadence.  The most relevant quote in their press release is ' "Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city," stated Repent America director Michael Marcavage. "From 'Girls Gone Wild' to 'Southern Decadence,' New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. From the devastation may a city full of righteousness emerge," he continued." '  They never say the Hurricane was a result of Southern Decadence or even a result of 'wickedness' in general.  They only say that they believe it offers an opportunity for 'righteousness' to emerge.  Johntex 19:40, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The press release was never quoted. If anything it was misconstrued, which I would agree is wrong. But ignoring the implication is, to put it nicely, obtuse. The first 4 paragraphs of the press release deal with Southern Decandence. The Press release is called "HURRICANE KATRINA DESTROYS NEW ORLEANS DAYS BEFORE "SOUTHERN DECADENCE"." There is no doubt that the implication is that Southern Decandence (and New Orlean's acceptance of it) is the main cause of Katrina. I think the only change that really needs to be made from the original is to say: "...their belief the looming Southern Decadence festival was one of the reasons New Orleans was devastated by Hurricane Katrina, the hurricane being an act of God." But even that makes it seem like Southern Decadence was one of a list of things given as a reason for the wrath of god.
 * Why don't you guys include a click-on site into the article, which contains the text of the press release?129.24.95.222 17:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)(Oct.)
 * Isn't it time this "Repent America" section be merged into a generic "criticism" section. RA was just one group of several that exploited the situation.  We have over 2 years perspective to see RA's rant blown out of proportion to the article's scope.  Any consensus on merging this?

Note about History section
I moved most of the history of Decadence to Talk:Southern Decadence/History as it was clearly a copyvio from Southern Decadence's history page on their website. There was no indication that we had permission to reproduce it. I'm going to try to rewrite it to remove the copyvio, but any other editor who wants to give it a crack is welcome to.

Do not reintroduce the copyrighted text into the article. Syrthiss 19:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Dykeadence
There are no sources listed for Dykeadence. It also fails to explain how it serves so-called people of color. I would have to challenge how a lesbian event can serve gay Black men.

== website has been resolved.

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Pablo de Céspedes

Pablo de Céspedes (1538 – July 26, 1608) was a Spanish painter, poet, and architect.

Biography
His father, Alonso Céspedes, was descended of a noble Castilian family, once settled at Ocaña, and the name of his mother, who was a native of Alcolea de Torote, was Olaya de Arroya. Pablo was born and brought up in the house of his father's maternal uncle, Francisco Lopez de Aponte, Canon of Cordoba, where he received a learned education. At the age of eighteen, in 1556, he was sent to the Universidad Complutense in Alcalá de Henares, and there, devoted himself to the acquirement of Oriental languages and theology. He later moved to Rome where he studied painting under Federico Zuccari.

He was in Rome in February 1559, engaged in conducting certain negotiations for the Archbishop Carranza de Miranda, of Toledo, who then stood charged with heresy before the Inquisition of Valladolid. On the 17th of that month he addressed a letter to the prelate, informing him how his business stood at the Vatican, in which he incautiously reflected on the conduct of the Inquisitor-General Valdez, and the Holy Office—an offence which no Inquisitor-General would forgive. This document and others were seized with the primate's papers; he was therefore denounced by the tribunal, and but for his fortunate absence, would have been imprisoned. It is probable that he did not venture back into Spain for many years, until he had covered his sins with the protecting robes of the Church.

He remained in Italy for over 20 years and built a reputation as an artist. His only surviving works from that period are the frescoes he painted in the Bonfili chapel at the Santa Trinità dei Monti church in Rome.

He returned to Spain in 1577, and was appointed as the canon of the Córdoba cathedral. He continued to write books on antiquarian topics such as the architecture of the temple of Solomon. He befriended Arias Montano. In 1604 he composed his Discourse of Ancient and Modern Painting and Sculpture in which he recounts anecdotes of Renaissance masters of Italy. Among his students was Juan Alfonso Abril.

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Talk:Kronan (ship)

Regalskeppet Kronan
Shouldnt the title be Regalskeppet Kronan? --Dahlis 17:25, 2005 August 30 (UTC)

-Why? Regalskepp is just what it was. The page on HMS Victory isn't labelled "Ship-of-the-line Victory" for example.

But the HMS Victory page is named exactly that, "HMS Victory". The name "Regalskeppet Kronan" would follow the same convention. (And yes, I know that this contradicts wiki guidelines, but these are very US-centric.)

 * Yes, but HMS is a prefix; "regalskeppet" is not. Equivalent to "Regalskappet Kronan" would be "Ship-of-the-line HMS Victory".

 * This seems to be a rather widespread misunderstanding, especially among Swedish contributors, but regalskepp (lit. "regal ship") is not a specific type of ship, but rather a very specific kind of classification. The closest equivalent would be the first-rate ship within the rating system of the Royal Navy. Of what I've understood of ship construction, most regalskepp built in the 17th century would probably be best described as being a transitional design between a galleon and a ship of the line.
 * Peter Isotalo 19:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Coordinates
I have added coordinates to the page, based on the Kronan museum website which describes its location as "4 nautical miles due east of the church at Hulterstad". I translated that into 7.4 km and then added approximate coordinates. - Gump Stump (talk) 07:52, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I changed the coordinates to the equivalent of 3.4 nautical miles east of Hulterstad (6.3 km), according to the most recent journal paper about the Kronan: "A cross-staff from the wreck of the Kronan (1676)", by L. Einarsson and W.F.J. Morzer-Bruyns, International Journal of Nautical Archaeology, 2003, v.32, p.53-60. - Gump Stump (talk) 08:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

666 years?
In the first paragraph, the article states "after 666 years, the ship foundered..." I think there is an error. Since I do not know anything about this, would someone please research and correct this?MacEachan1 (talk) 04:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)MacEachan1

Background info
Is the first part of the historical background section really necessary? I feel like if people wanted to know about Sweden in the 1600s they would go to Swedish empire and not an article about a ship. Brutannica (talk) 23:45, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

 * It's an historical article about a fairly notable warship. A political historical context of the conflicts it was intended to fight in is very relevant in my view. Readers who aren't interested can always just skip those two paragraphs.
 * Peter Isotalo 05:57, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Capitalization
Swedish Navy is capitalized in its own article, but "navy" is lowercase in this one. Is one or the other wrong? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 03:16, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

 * There was a discussion about this in the FAC. The linked article is about the modern organization that has a proper name. This is about the early modern predecessor, a very different entity that doesn't really have a proper name like the Royal Navy.
 * Peter Isotalo 05:57, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If they're "very different entit[ies]", then isn't the link misleading? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 06:44, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * That goes for all navies with a long history, I suppose. We don't have articles like Tudor navy for Swedish naval history, though. So it's either the modern navy (which also covers some history) or redlinking. Piping to the former seems like a better choice than simply redlinking.
 * Peter Isotalo 06:56, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, if the article covers both, then shouldn't the article be downcased, with only the portions that cover the modern navy using the capitalized version? Something should be done, anyways—it's confusing. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:02, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Swedish Navy is about the modern navy first and foremost, just like Sweden is mostly about the modern country, even if it's technically the same state as in 1676 (or 1523). That doesn't mean we refer to it as "Swedish Empire" as a synonym. I'm not a fan of assigning "official names" when those names aren't used consistently in the literature.
 * Btw, If you ask WP:MILHIST's naval taskforce about this, they'll likely say "capitalize everything, everywhere". But that's because something like 98% of their work is on modern history.
 * Peter Isotalo 08:19, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

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Night Moves

Night Moves may refer to:

Music

 * Night Moves (album), a 1976 album by Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
 * "Night Moves" (Bob Seger song), the title song
 * "Night Moves" (Marilyn Martin song), 1986
 * Nightmoves, a 2007 album by Kurt Elling
 * "Nightmoves", a song from Michael Franks' 1976 album The Art of Tea
 * Night Moves, a 2002 album by Carolyn Breuer
 * Night Moves (band), a rock band

Other media

 * Night Moves (1975 film), a 1975 film directed by Arthur Penn and starring Gene Hackman
 * Night Moves (2013 film), a 2013 film directed by Kelly Reichardt and starring Dakota Fanning and Jesse Eisenberg
 * "The Night Moves", an episode of The O.C.
 * "Night Moves", an episode of War of the Worlds
 * Night Moves, a novel in the series Tom Clancy's Net Force
 * Night Moves and Other Stories (2000), a short story collection by Tim Powers
 * Night Moves (adventure), for the role-playing game Marvel Super Heroes
 * Night Moves (TV series), a Canadian TV show from 1986–1993
 * Night Moves (poetry collection), a 2013 book by Stephanie Barber
 * Night Moves (memoir), a 2018 memoir by music critic Jessica Hopper

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Mill Hill railway station (Lancashire)

Mill Hill railway station serves Mill Hill in the Blackburn with Darwen borough in Lancashire, England. It is 1+1/4 mi west of Blackburn railway station. It is an island platformed station managed by Northern. It was opened by the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway in 1884, almost forty years after the line itself.

It is unstaffed, with no permanent buildings other than basic shelters on the platform. Digital information screens and a P.A system are installed to give intending passengers train running information.

As of January 2018, along with other stations on this line, a new touch screen ticket machine was added to the Station.

It has no step-free disabled access, with an entrance down a single flight of stairs from street level. From the street level above there are also direct bus services to Blackburn town centre.

Services
Monday to Saturdays, there is an hourly service from Mill Hill towards Preston westbound and an hourly service to Blackburn, Burnley Central and Colne eastbound. A single morning peak service from York to Preston also calls, along with a corresponding evening peak train to Leeds.

There is a two-hourly service in each direction on Sundays.

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