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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Krag-Petersson

Krag-Petersson
Selfnomination. The article has been throught a peer review, a (failed) FAC, and another peer review. I feel the article as it now is ready for FA-status - much more so than last time it went on FAC - and that all the issues raised have been adressed.

I truely do feel that this is a very comprehensive article avilable on the Krag-Petersson rifle; one of the first (if not the first) repeating rifles adopted by any armed force. I also believe it follows all the guidelines for a FA. However, if you do spot somethign that needs improving, I'm more than happy to fix it.

WegianWarrior 08:35, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Support – would prefer inote to ref in this case.  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  09:18, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. Looks good. --Carnildo 05:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Just a comment: if there's one of these rifles on display at a museum in Oslo, then would it be possible for a Wikipedian there to take a few pictures of it? We might then be able to replace Image:Krag-Petersson Round on breechblock.jpg with a free-license image, and get a photo of the entire rifle for a lead image. --Carnildo 18:41, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * It is on my list of things to do next time I'm visiting the Armed Forces Museum (Forsvarsmuseet) in Oslo - if they have one exhibited. However, it's been quite some time since I was there last, so I can't recall if they have one or not. WegianWarrior 19:05, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The article states that the Fram museum has one on display. --Carnildo 19:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Seems like I must add the Fram-museum to my list of places to visit with a camera in the near future then =) WegianWarrior 10:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. Very good. Seems to meet all criteria. Rossrs 13:55, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Support — Looks good to me. — RJH 14:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Support, interesting read. Phoenix2 16:10, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Just remove those 18 footnotes to Norske Militærgeværer etter 1867 and settle for the entry in the reference section. Those very, very few who can get a hold of the book (and also happen to speak Norwegian) will know what to look for and those who don't aren't going to demand specific page references. / Peter Isotalo 22:09, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * There's no value to removing them. They serve to help verifiability. Convert them to inotes if you like, but the criteria specifically call for inline citations. - Taxman Talk 11:58, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * There's no value in keeping them. They're overly pedantic and letting them be encourages people to keep on misusing footnotes. The criteria says "...enhanced by the appropriate use of inline citations". "Inline citation" doesn't mean "footnote" to begin with and intepreting "appropriate" as "mandatory" requires a good deal of imagination. Referencing things like uncontroversial historical dates and effective range of rifles with footnotes really serves no purpose. I do appreciate that you want articles to be well-referenced, but it's very obviously going too far in a lot of articles. Try not to defend references for their own sake or we'll get even more footnote-disasasters like names of the Greeks. Notes 10-12 and the one refering to the New Testament are among the prime examples of how to never, ever use a footnote. / Peter Isotalo 21:22, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Taxman, are you sure you're not going on automatic in opposing Peter Isotalo here, just because the two of you are already at loggerheads about referencing? I don't always agree with Peter in that debate, but here he's just, well, right. Wegan Warrior, I'm sorry if I seem to be jumping on you, and I'm sorry I wasn't around to catch this detail on Peer review. It's not the case that verifiability becomes fuller, or more exact, the more notes you have. Sometimes it does, here it doesn't. First, having so many notes that say "ibid" is an obsolete way of doing things—a relic of a leisurely era—modern style sheets recommend much leaner and meaner systems. Also, I can't tell what information they're references for, from the way they're placed in the text. It sort of looks like statements like "The function of the extractor was particularly praised in the official reports" are referenced by a mere entry in column--I don't have the source, but it seems surprising. WW, is that it, or are the notes meant merely to indicate where in a column some particular model (or, uh, part of a model...? a measurement..?) appears? If so, don't do it; the reader can locate it easily, just tell him/her, once, what book to look in. Replace all these notes with a single reference that says something like "Unless otherwise indicated, the models (ranges...?) discussed are tabulated in this work". These footnotes are purely decorative. There is value to removing something that distracts/intimidates the reader without adding actual information. I'd do it myself if I could tell a gun from a hole in the ground, i. e., if I could tell how to phrase the single reference. And, no, please don't just make them invisible, where's the sense in that? If they were useful, they should be visible. If, as is the case, they're not useful, they should go. And in case the notes stay nevertheless, some technicalities: 21 and 24 don't work, 3 and 4 are reversed (I don't know how that's possible, since the numbering is supposed to be automatic--a bug?), and there's some sort of mixup with 15 to 17 that I can't rightly sort out. Bishonen | talk 01:07, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you're both wrong. I'm not knee jerk reacting to Peter, he is simply going against what the criteria call for. Appropriate clearly means they have to be there, but doesn't specify how many or what form. Appropriate cannot mean none. And there was long and involved discussions in a number of places to solidify the consensus around the way the criteria read now. If you have preferences that are counter to the criteria, I'm fine with that, but discuss it in the proper place, don't give incorrect comments to a nomination. We apply the criteria, not our whims, and the criteria call for inline citations. Peter, you're right, they don't specify footnotes as the way to go, any format is fine. And Bishonen, if the primary objection is they look bad, then making them invisible is perfectly valid way to avoid that, but still aid verifiability. I can still edit the source and see the citation information. Again, have the conversation in the right place, and don't give wrong advice here. - Taxman Talk 15:33, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * That's what you got out of that—my primary objection is they look bad? Don't worry, I'm done, I won't offer any more whims and preferences. Bishonen | talk 16:48, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh come now, I wasn't meaning to be offensive, and I'm sorry if I was. I just had a very limited time to make that edit. I was using "look bad" to stand for all the arguments of them being distracting, etc. As I mentioned inotes solves that part of the problem anyway, without much loss of verifiability. - Taxman Talk 18:17, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * Taxman, what I'm saying is no different from complaining that there are too many images or sub-sections in an FAC. Countering by (somewhat erroneously) claiming that they're mandatory is not the least bit relevant. You're also insisting on a very narrow interpretation of the criteria despite the fact that they're ambiguously worded. What bish and I are saying is that citations and footnotes should be used with moderation and common sense (and perhaps advice from people who have proper experience of using them). If a note clearly serves little or no purpose in referencing an article "...enhanced by appropriate usage..." might just as well be interpreted as "none" (though not in this particular case). To claim that they have to be mandatory is informal instruction creep and seems a bit like an attempt to supress differing opinions. You're right that this is not really the right forum for this discussion, but since you're clearly misrepresenting our objections and trying to make this into some sort of policy violation, it's hardly prudent to demand that we take it elsewhere. / Peter Isotalo 16:38, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * It's quite different. See below. - Taxman Talk 18:17, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm confundled - not about the broken notes, which I fixed (fingertrouble on my part, and forgetting to shuffle the notes after shuffling sections of the article around), but about what is really required of citations. When I placed Jarmann M1884 on FAC (see Featured article candidates/Jarmann M1884), I was told that all historical information should be referenced with footnotes. Now I'm being told that items at least I consider significant, like the details of the official reports, shouldn't be cited. And to top it off, it seeems like there has broken out a small fight over various systems for doing it - I'm not keen on the myself, because it hides things from the casuall reader, but I have made a test of it in my user-space. Now, On one hand we have the need for inline citations of historical information, on the other the need to 'reduse clutter'. Could the version with the 's be a solution people can agree on? WegianWarrior 07:59, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * PS: Same goes for when I had the Krag-Jørgensen on FAC, inline citations and footnotes of historical information was apparantly important in the article. I'm still confundled as to whats the proper way to do that apperantly. WegianWarrior 08:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I understand your frustration, Wegian. The problem is simply that people haven't really given much thought to how and why citations and notes should be used, only that they have to be used. I hate to say it, but anyone who claims that you have to precisely reference every historical fact clearly has little or no pre-wiki experience of footnotes. / Peter Isotalo 16:38, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually people have given a lot of thought to it and there have been extensive discussions about it. Clearly, you're just not aware of those discussions, but don't claim they didn't occur when you don't know. Numerous nominations have also helped evolve the consensus and that came to the fact that the criteria call for them to be used, and that appropriate specifically does not mean none. It does represent a strengthening of the criteria, and we were all well aware of that when the discussion was going on. So, I'm not misrepresenting, you are clearly calling for something different from what the criteria do. Again, if you would like to influence or change policy, please do it at the talk pages Cite sources and or What is a featured article where most of the consensus for this part of the criteria was built. And please go read the discussions there before you claim I'm misrepresenting. After that, and in the proper place I would welcome any input you may bring with your additional experience. To WW, yes, inotes would meet my criteria since they still help verifiability, and still avoid the clutter that other people find distracting, etc. It's not ideal, but we don't have an ideal system yet. - Taxman Talk 18:17, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * So let's sum this up, then. I'm going against an undeniable and undisputeable previous consensus decision that apparantly was so unanimous that it didn't even require the polcy documents to clearly show its intents. I think you're the one who needs to go lobby for a policy change. / Peter Isotalo 08:25, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * WW, I'm sorry my input was unhelpful. Please note that I haven't objected, and I don't have anything more to say, so don't be concerned about my comment. Bishonen | talk 16:48, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Wow. Such heat, so little light!  The fact is that all disciplines, all professors, all editors (the kind who work at academic presses, not the kind who contribute to Wikipedia) have preferences in how much is cited.  However, Bishonen is quite correct in saying that the style sheets used by most in the humanities (including therefore History and its children, military history and cultural history) shy away from noting every fact.  We're not quite at the "cite only if it's controversial" stage, but we're not trying to "show your work" by establishing every place that an author learned a thing, either.  The critical axes, it seems to me, are readability and reproducibility.  (Footnotes are, in act, our version of scientific method.)  If the punctuation of the text by note breaks up readability, then the thing should be rewritten to make the notes less necessary.  If the author is switching between sources for unavailable facts, citation is necessary.  Otherwise, it's easy to put a note up saying, "Material on the easing of the spring taken from Bob and Robert 4-15": that note lodges the discussion without puncturing the prose.  Unreadable because overly cited is bad.  Geogre 19:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Now, I hope no one has bad feelings over making me a bit confused - after all, I'm not angry or upset. My goal is to write the best articles I can, and to that end I do try to make sure I follow the rules; allthought it's obvious that the rules in this cause is more of a guideline. However, would it be an idea to make some sort of list somewhere that gives samples of what sort of things ought to be cited in different sorts of articles? WegianWarrior 08:26, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Support, although a quick definition of the word breechblock within the article would be nice to have. - Mgm|(talk) 08:21, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Support, now that I've waded into it. It looks very well done and researched, which I obviously think is important. Sorry for any fireworks, just intending to be accurate. I would prefer though the couple orphan one or two sentence paragraphs be merged into other paragraphs or expanded if possible. They just break up the flow too much, and I've never seen encyclopedic prose that didn't read better without them. - Taxman Talk 23:09, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * I'll work my way thru the article and see if I can't do that for you =) WegianWarrior 08:26, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Support - but I agree that the pile of ibid. notes is not necessary. -- ALoan (Talk) 09:44, 1 September 2005 (UTC)


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Bigga

Bigga can refer to the following:

Places

 * Bigga, New South Wales, a village in Australia
 * Bigga, Shetland, an island in Scotland

Organisations

 * B.I.G.G.A., British and International Golf Greenkeepers Association
 * Bigga, a Jamaican cream soda

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Some simple sentences in lugisu (lumasaaba) (2nd nomination)

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was to delete the article. --Canderson7 14:30, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Some simple sentences in lugisu (lumasaaba)
Wikipedia is not a foreign language lexicon. Zoe 08:19, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Dottore So 08:45, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. I already VfD:ed this once as far as I can remember. I can't find the previous VfD-page, though. Peter Isotalo 10:28, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You'll find both on the list of Uganda-related deletions. -- Visviva 10:00, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge some of it with the article on the language, which seems to be Masaba language. Kappa 11:44, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * We don't keep tourist phrase-lists in language articles for fairly obvious reasons (unencylopedic, Wikipedia is not a usage guide, useless for linguistic comparison, etc). If someone decides to include it, it won't stay in the article for long. We have a pseudo-article dedicated for this: list of common phrases in various languages. The basic inclusion policies don't hold seem to hold sway there, so you can add whatever you feel like. / Peter Isotalo 11:48, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete SaltyPig 12:18, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy, recreation of deleted content. -- Visviva 10:00, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Talk:Thunbergia

August 2005
Hi, user:MPF, I see you've taken out the reference to the genus as a whole as clockvines. I'm not expert in this area so I'm not pushing it, but a number of sources I found seemed to use this name for any Thunbergia. Are you confident about this? seglea 08:19, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Attribution to Anders Jahan Retziu
I wonder what the source is for the attribution of the Genus name to Anders Jahan Retziu. I don't believe this is correct. I believe Linnaeus named this Genus to honor his star pupil, Carl Peter Thunberg. In fact, I'm pretty sure. But I don't have a source handy.

Am I wrong?

Hank01 02:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Ahmad Tibi

Medical career
This article is missing key information on Dr. Tibi's notability as a physician.  Tewfik Talk 15:33, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Nationality
Although Dr. Tibi is an Arab whose parents were born in former Palestine, in order to sit in the Israeli Kenesset Dr. Tibi must be an Israeli citizen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oatmealstout (talk • contribs) 02:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Controversial comments
It appears that this article makes absolutely no mention about Tibi's constant use of colorful language and derrogatory comments against his opponents, which is definitely notable because every such comment makes it into the national Israeli media, as I was just reminded by Tibi's most recent diatribe. Other statements include saying that Avigdor Lieberman would be 'water pollution if drowned'. I'm not saying that this should be blown up out of proportion and take up the entire article, but the general issue should at least have its own section. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 17:24, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Problems with sources
Of the the statements I've removed unsubstantiated rant from a very biased publication. Then are an opinion column therefore not acceptable in a blp. Re "Support for terrorism" cites an exchange of abuse between MKs, so not reliable &  has him working with the PLO, doesn't say he support terrorism, & cites another MK incorrectly claiming he's involved with Hamas. Please read the sources more carefully and abide by policy per WP:RS & WP:BLP. Thanx--Misarxist 09:45, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Well done. This article is riddled with WP:BLP, WP:SYNTH and WP:NPOV violations. More work is needed. --Frederico1234 (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

 * the article is absolutely biased and shows Tibi in a very negative way by using common Israeli right accusations as facts, from one side, and neglecting entirely his acknowledged parliamentary activity, from the other side.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kifah.halim (talk • contribs) 15:17, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Removal of sourced material
A user has removed sourced material from the article under the claim that there was "not enough context". I completely disagree with this claim, because the quote is a full sentence without missing parts, so even if Tibi clarified what he meant in some way, this does not mean that the sentence was taken out of context. I believe the quote should be restored, as it does not violate BLP as the user claimed. However, to be fair, I don't have access to the source. Can someone who has access to it bring the full text? —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The sentence as read could be interpreted as if Tibi thinks that it is a "despicable act" to sell ones home to a Jew, without qualification. That it most probably not what Tibi meant. Most probably he was talking about selling homes located on the West Bank to Jewish settlers. As I don't have access to the source, I could not add that context. Instead I removed it as it is BLP. --Frederico1234 (talk) 20:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * What you just said amounts to original research. It is not for us to guess what he probably meant. However, I will not make any edits for now, until the actual source is found. —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:55, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * If I had changed the sentence to something like "Regarding settlers in the West Bank, Tibi said..." then that would have been OR as I don't have access to the source. I did not. I simply removed it. --Frederico1234 (talk) 22:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The sentence appears to have been added in this edit by the WP:SPA (all three edits the editor ever made was to this article) User:Mariasson. The editor created the Controversies section and added a bunch of accusations, including from propaganda site http://www.eretzyisroel.org. --Frederico1234 (talk) 07:06, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit of Biography section for clarity
Sept. 17, 2014 I edited this section for clarity and flow. I have attempted to preserve exact meaning as found on that date, with these exceptions:

 * At the introductory, located Tayibe as in Israel and also Palestine.
 * At "Ahead of Israel's 2003 elections, several right-wing politicians..." changed to read "Ahead of Israel's 2003 elections, several politicians..." This was for neutral tone and because the party affiliations of these politicians appear in the sentence.
 * At the media surveys, changed "speaker" to "public speaker." This may be wrong if "Deputy Speaker" was intended.  This sentence needs citation to the particular surveys it mentions.
 * At section end, added Mr. Tibi's current Knesset roles as given on the Knesset website.

The edits should make the section easier to read quickly. I did not edit any other sections.--Jessegalebaker (talk) 23:53, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Name
He's usually referred to as Ahmad Tibi or Ahmed Tibi in English media, and אחמד טיבי in Hebrew (//) but according to the page his name in Arabic is أحمد الطيبي.

Shouldn't the article mention that his name would be more accurately rendered in Arabic as Ahmad al-Tibi?

The Hosni Mubarak article is a good example of this, showing the prononunciation of his name as //, with the pronunciation of the sometimes-omitted Arabic definite article -ال in parentheses. —Moxfyre (ǝɹʎℲxoɯ | contrib) 23:48, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Grandfathers and Briefcases
Hello to all editors. I am a historian from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Looking through the entry on MK Tibi, I found some inaccurate details and corrected them. For example, Tibi's grandfather was born in Jaffa, not in Syria, and has no relatives in Damascus (at least not according to public knowledge). Also, I shortened the description on the incident in the hospital and updated according to recent events. Why were my edits deleted? I will be happy to open a conversation here. --Dannyorbach (talk) 07:55, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

 * Hi Danny, Welcome to Wikipedia. I think the place of birth was collateral damage of the briefcase incident. The problem is that neither the Jaffa version nor the Damascus version is supported by a source. The way to make your version stick is to cite it to a published source. (Knowing that it is true through your own research doesn't count unless you published it.) A newspaper article should be enough, and it could be in any language. Regarding the briefcase incident, the amount of detail to include is a matter of opinion. I also think that a brief summary is enough, but other people might not agree. If you feel strongly about this, make a case here and see how it goes. Zerotalk 09:56, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit request
Add:
 * Category:Members of the 24th Knesset (2021–)
 * Category:20th-century Israeli physicians
 * Category:21st-century Israeli physicians

Replace:
 * Category:Arab politicians in Israel by Category:Arab members of the Knesset

Quacelinz3 (talk) 16:57, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. Number   5  7  19:27, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Martyrdom is NOT synonymous with suicide bombing in Palestine and Israel
The statement placed on to the end of the current final section of controversies is false. The editor has in this case directly kifted text from the sourced article which is the opinion of the author Lahav Harkov at the Jerusalem Post.

Wikipedia: ″While the word martyr in Arabic means to die for God's name, it has come to be associated with suicide bombers in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict."

Jerusalem Post Source: "While the word martyr in Arabic means to die in the name of God, in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict it has come to be associated with suicide bombers and terrorists who are killed while attacking Israel."

PhearOTD 19:37, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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Radio 2 (Australian radio station)

Radio 2 was a narrowband Australian radio network owned and operated by WorldAudio Limited. The network was broadcast on frequencies between 1611 and 1629 kHz via a series of 50 AM transmitters across Australia, as well as by satellite (including through Austar and Foxtel) and through the network's website.

History
Radio 2 began in Blacktown in Western Sydney on 1611 AM in October 2001, broadcasting under a Section 40 licence - meaning it could only operate on narrowband AM frequencies (1611–1701 kHz), and with narrow spectrum - 5 kHz, rather than the full 9 kHz which other commercial radio stations use. Branded "The New Voice Of Western Sydney", the station focused on live and local content, similar to 2WS in its heyday.

In 2002, Radio 2 was a broadcast partner of the 2002 FIFA World Cup, broadcasting live coverage of matches, with the call led by Colin Turner. In 2003, Radio 2 was a broadcast partner of the AFL, hosting live coverage of Sydney Swans home games from the Sydney Cricket Ground and Stadium Australia.

National expansion
In November 2003, owners WorldAudio Limited acquired a series of 14 additional transmitters, forming a national commercial AM radio network. This did not come without drama - a legal battle had begun between owners WorldAudio and GB Radio in Melbourne, over the use of the 1620 AM licence - WorldAudio would eventually use 1629 AM in Melbourne instead. In April 2005, owners WorldAudio signed Mikey Robins and Ian Rogerson to host The Big Australian Breakfast, Nick Bennett to host the Nick's Nation drive show, and former Seven News presenter Ross Symonds to host Sunday morning business program The Bottom Line.

In May 2005, the station launched nationally to a network of 50 stations around the country, dropping the Western Sydney focus and moving to programming of national significance. At launch, WorldAudio CEO Andrew Peter Thompson boasted the station "[could] be picked up by 93% of all radio receivers." Additional programming included Sportswatch Australia with Colin Turner, She Said with Sophie Falkiner and Katrina Warren, and Politically Direct with Paul Makin. The network had an emphasis on sporting coverage, with coverage of A-League and English Premier League soccer, AFL (including Sydney Swans and Brisbane Lions games, plus the 2005 AFL Grand Final), and the NBL.

Downfall and closure
However, the network's success wasn't to be. A combination of minimal listenership and low advertising lead to a trading halt being placed on parent company WorldAudio, with the announcement that administrators had been appointed to the company a week later. Administrators halted all talk based content, leaving the station to broadcast non-stop music.

"Radio 2 temporarily ceased broadcasting as of Friday, 21 July 2006. Broadcasting on the WorldAudio Groups licences will resume at Christmas 2006. Administrators Hall Chadwick are selling off World Audio's Radio 2's studio equipment at auction."

Radio 2's frequencies were later sold, either to Rete Italia, the start-up Vision Christian Radio, or to the similarly ill-fated Goanna country music network.

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Cornell Lab of Ornithology

The Cornell Lab of Ornithology is a member-supported unit of Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, which studies birds and other wildlife. It is housed in the Imogene Powers Johnson Center for Birds and Biodiversity in Sapsucker Woods Sanctuary. Approximately 250 scientists, professors, staff, and students work in a variety of programs devoted to the Lab's mission: interpreting and conserving the Earth's biological diversity through research, education, and citizen science focused on birds. Work at the Lab is supported primarily by its 100,000 members and supporters.

The Cornell Lab produces a quarterly publication, Living Bird magazine, and an electronic newsletter delivered twice per month. It manages numerous participatory science projects and websites, including the Webby Award-winning All About Birds.

History
The Cornell Lab of Ornithology was founded by Arthur A. Allen, who had lobbied for the creation of the country's first graduate program in ornithology; the Lab was established at Cornell University in 1915. Initially, the Lab of Ornithology was housed in the university’s entomology and limnology department.

Birder/businessman Lyman Stuart, donors, and landowners purchased or donated farmland in 1954, which was to be set aside for the sanctuary. Stuart helped finance the construction of the first Lab building in 1957. Lab founder Arthur Allen (along with colleagues Louis Agassiz Fuertes, James Gutsell, and Francis Harper) had dubbed the area “Sapsucker Woods” after discovering the first breeding pair of yellow-bellied sapsuckers ever reported in the Cayuga Lake Basin; this species of woodpecker is now common in the area and is part of the Cornell Lab's logo.

Today, the Cornell Lab of Ornithology is housed in the Imogene Powers Johnson Center for Birds and Biodiversity, which opened in the summer of 2003.

Facilities
The 300-acre Sapsucker Woods Sanctuary contains more than 5 miles of trails winding around Sapsucker Pond, on boardwalks, through wetlands and forest. More than 230 species of birds have been recorded in the sanctuary. Approximately 55,000 people visit the sanctuary and public areas of the Cornell Lab each year.

In fall 2023, the Visitor Center underwent a multimillion-dollar redesign. It reopened in June 2024 with all new interactive exhibits. The Visitor Center is free to visit and accessible to all. The Visitor Center is open Tuesday through Sunday from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. and closed on Mondays.

Organization
The Lab is an administrative unit within Cornell University. It has a separate 30-member Administrative Board that is appointed by the Cornell Board of Trustees. As of fiscal year 2023, the Lab has an annual budget of $45.4 million and income of $45.8 million. It has 18 senior staff, which includes eight holding Cornell faculty appointments.

Participatory Science
Collecting the observations of everyday birders for scientific use is a hallmark of the Lab. Birdwatchers of all ages and skill levels help gather the data needed to capture the big picture about the distribution and abundance of birds. Hundreds of thousands of people worldwide participate in the Lab's projects in the Center for Engagement in Science and Nature. The eBird project allows birders to report any of the Earth's more than 10,585 bird species to a single scientific database. As of July 2024, 127.5 million checklists have been recorded, reporting 10,826 species, from more than a million eBirders. eBird data and ground-breaking tools have formed the foundation for hundreds of scientific studies of birds.

The Cornell Lab's other participatory-science projects take place in all seasons and include Project FeederWatch, NestWatch, and Celebrate Urban Birds. Every February, the Lab, the Audubon Society, and Birds Canada host the 4-day Great Backyard Bird Count. which takes place all over the world. The Cornell Lab also operates many Bird Cams which stream live video of nesting birds in the spring.

Education
The Lab's Bird Academy and K-12 curricula take education about birds and nature to students of all ages. Bird Academy is home to a series of self-paced online courses about woodpeckers, hummingbirds, how to paint birds, photograph birds, improve bird ID skills, and much more. K-12 materials are aimed at both students and teachers, assisting them in teaching and learning how to think like a scientist.

Merlin Bird ID
The Cornell Lab publishes the free Merlin Bird ID app for iOS and Android devices. This field guide and identification app guides helps users to put a name to the birds they see, and covers 3,000 species of across the Americas, Western Europe, and India. In addition to browsing customized lists of birds for any location in the world, users can answer simple questions to get a list of most likely species, along with images and sound. In 2017, Merlin Bird ID was updated to include AI-powered automatic photo recognition, which allows quick identification help with photographs. Bird ID and Photo ID require separate file downloads. The app also offers Sound ID, which can identify some 450 North American species, in real time or from an in-app recording, even if multiple species are communicating at once. The app also displays a basic black-and-white spectrogram--a visual representation of sound.

Research
Cornell Lab scientists, postdoctoral associates, students, and visiting scholars are carrying on much original research in behavioral ecology, conservation, education, evolutionary biology, information systems, and population genetics. Our scientists even harness weather radar data to study the movements of birds during migration. Cornell Lab engineers also develop hardware and software tools used in researching bird and animal communication and patterns of movement.

In the Center for Biodiversity Studies & Higher Education, laboratory researchers are extracting DNA from living birds or specimens to uncover the relationships among species.

In addition to many studies and published papers, the Cornell Lab's Center for Avian Population Studies has produced land managers' guides aimed at conserving dwindling populations of scarlet tanagers, wood thrushes, and other forest birds. The Lab worked with Partners in Flight to identify rapidly declining species and produce the first North American Landbird Conservation Plan. Lab staff also worked with multiple partners to create the first-ever State of the Birds report in March 2009, and subsequent years.

Lab scientists are currently involved with partners from industry, government agencies, and non-governmental organizations in setting research priorities to better understand the impact of wind power facilities on birds and bats on land, and on whales and marine creatures offshore.

Bioacoustics
The Lab's K. Lisa Yang Center for Conservation Bioacoustics creates remote recording devices used by researchers in projects around the world. These mobile autonomous vehicles consist of a hard drive, housing, and microphone array that can be mounted in a forest or anchored to the ocean floor. These recording units have been used in the Yang Center's Elephant Listening Project in Africa, studies of whales, and in many studies of birds such as northern spotted owls.

The Yang Center has also developed sound-analysis software programs called Raven and Raven Lite. Engineers are working on programmable radio tags to track birds and other animals for longer periods of time and to follow bird migrations.

Media
From its earliest days, the Cornell Lab has had a special interest in bird and animal sounds. Founder Arthur Allen and his students were pioneers in the field, recording the first bird songs on a film soundtrack.

The Macaulay Library has since expanded and is now the world's premier scientific archive of natural history audio, video, and photographs. The library hosts over 64 million audio, video and photographs. Macaulay Library archivists continue to mount expeditions to collect wildlife sounds, images, and video from around the world and collect media from contributors to expand the archive.

The Lab's Center for Conservation Media presents stories from around the world, working with many partners to highlight conservation concerns ranging from the preservation of important habitats to individual species in trouble such as the Great Philippine Eagle and the African Grey Parrot.

Cornell University Museum of Vertebrates
The Cornell University Museum of Vertebrates is also housed in the Johnson Center and holds 1,230,000 specimens of fish, 44,300 amphibians and reptiles, 45,000 birds, 3,200 eggs, and 15,000 mammals, some now extinct. Students and scientists use the collections in their studies.

Other

 * 1) Living Bird Magazine, Autumn 2003,

title: Cornell Lab of Ornithology


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Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society

The Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society (CPAWS) (la Société pour la nature et les parcs du Canada (SNAP)) was founded in 1963 to help protect Canada's wilderness.

Overview
CPAWS was initially known as the National and Provincial Parks Association (NPPAC), which was formed in 1963 with a focus on revitalizing Canadian's appreciation of wilderness parks. For many years, NPPAC published the Park News: The Journal of the National and Provincial Parks Association of Canada—an "outlet for a variety of articles on Canadian parks that will be of interest to the general public."

For more than 50 years it has championed the protection of Canada's forests, waters, and parks, with a focus on protecting large, connected areas. To date, CPAWS has succeeded in helping to protect over 50 million hectares. CPPAWS' vision is to keep at least half of Canada's public land and water wild – forever. As a national charity with 13 chapters, over 50,000 supporters, and hundreds of volunteers, CPAWS works collaboratively with governments, local communities, industry, and indigenous peoples to protect Canada's public land and water.

CPAWS has submitted reports to the federal government related to a number of its key program areas. Their 2016 report subtitled, "Protecting Canada's National Parks a Call for Renewed Commitment to Nature Conservation", was submitted as evidence to the House of Commons Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development. The CPAWS parks program director, Alison Woodley, and Sabine Jessen, CPAWS' national director of their oceans program, were invited expert witnesses in discussions at a May 5, 2016 meeting of the House of Commons of Canada.

Forests
From the vast northern Boreal forest to the temperate forests stretching across Ontario, Quebec, and the Maritimes, Canada is home to some of the largest unbroken tracts of forest on the planet. CPAWS' goal is to conserve at least half of Canada's Boreal forests and to create a network of large conservation areas within the temperate eastern woodlands of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Quebec, and Ontario.

Campaign Examples
 * Helping protect Alberta's Little Smoky Caribou
 * Implementing the Canadian Boreal Forest Agreement
 * Keeping the Restigouche Wild

Parks and Protection Areas
Canada has one of the oldest and most extensive parks systems in the world. CPAWS advocates for new parks and acts as a watchdog to ensure that existing ones are well-managed. With pressures on Canada's wilderness growing, creating more parks and ensuring existing ones are well-funded and protected is more important than ever.

Campaign Examples
 * Stand up for Jasper!
 * Join the movement for Canada's parks!
 * Ensure the Rouge is protected forever
 * Add your voice for protecting Thaidene Nene – the Land of the Ancestors!
 * Keep the Flathead Wild
 * Create a National Park in South Okanagan-Similkameen
 * Celebrate the expansion of the world-famous Nahanni!
 * Sign the Peel statement of support

Oceans
Canada has the longest coastline in the world and a marine area that is half the size of the country. But its marine ecosystems tend to be out of sight and out of mind, and they are in serious trouble. CPAWS' long-term goal is for Canada to complete a national network of marine protected areas that protect at least half of Canada's oceans, with an objective to meet the international target of protecting at least 10% of coastal and marine areas by 2020.

Campaign Examples
 * Dare to be Deep: Protect Canada's Oceans
 * Southern Strait of Georgia
 * Protegeons notre fleuve

Grasslands
Grasslands are some of the most unusual ecosystems in the world, but are also considered the most threatened, with the highest concentration of species at risk. CPAWS chapters in British Columbia, Alberta, and Saskatchewan are working to protect these unique landscapes and their rich biodiversity.

Connecting Canadians to Nature
There is more and more evidence emerging that increasingly urban Canadians are less and less likely to be active outdoors or to have the opportunity to directly experience nature. Connecting Canadians to Nature is about building a culture of wilderness advocates through wilderness experiences. The Get Outside program offered by certain chapters (BC, Wildlands League) is an important component of this program area. CPAWS' Southern Alberta chapter also offers an extensive nature education program for school-age children and youth.

Wildlife
CPAWS focuses on protecting large tracts of land, oceans, and great freshwater lakes so species like grizzlies, woodland caribou and wolverine have room to roam, and whales and fish can thrive.

Examples of species CPAWS is working to protect
 * Woodland caribou herds have declined significantly in the last 100 years. Several herds have disappeared completely. Evidence suggests the majority of these herds will go extinct without conservation action.
 * "Atlantic Salmon - The Restigouche River and its tributaries support one of the most productive wild Atlantic salmon populations, with some of the largest salmon, in eastern Canada. CPAWS is working to protect the Restigouche watershed."
 * Grizzly bears need room to roam, and Canada's interconnected mountain parks are ideal habitats. However, development and industrial pressure in the Rocky Mountain region are reducing the bears' numbers.

Collaborative activities
In 2015, Mountain Equipment Coop (MEC) partnered with CPAWS as the project sponsor for the "MEC Big Wild Challenge" to encourage people to connect more with nature by being more active outdoors. This included a challenge for individuals to complete a specific Trail Run on September 19 in participating municipalities or to design their own outdoors in nature challenge. The overall goal was to protect the wilderness.

History
CPAWS was initially known as the National and Provincial Parks Association (NPPAC). The NPPAC formed in 1963 with a focus on revitalizing Canadian's appreciation of wilderness parks. Since this time CPAWS' role and national network have expanded.

The organization has been a key citizens' group in many decisions relating to the establishment of new parks and wilderness areas and in obtaining significant conservation outcomes through land-use planning processes in many parts of Canada. CPAWS' name through history has been strongly associated with iconic Canadian parks such as Banff, Nahanni, Algonquin, Quetico, and Tatshenshini, and with establishing the Muskwa-Kechika Management Area. CPAWS' role has been significant in many other successful conservation efforts as well, ranging from the establishment of the Forest Stewardship Council to designing land-use planning processes that result in nature protection through a variety of mechanisms.

CPAWS has also been at the forefront of the drive to establish marine protected areas in Canada and played a leading role in the passage of the National Marine Conservation Areas Act. It continues to be Canada's leading voice for parks and protected areas management.

James B Harkin Conservation Award
In 1972, CPAWS established the James B. Harkin Conservation Award, which is awarded to Canadians who promote conservation. Recipients of the Harkin Award include:
 * 2013 John Marsh, Ric Careless and Harvey Locke
 * 2011 Nikita Lopoukhine
 * 2010 The Panel on Ecological Integrity of Canada's National Parks
 * 2008 Bob Peart
 * 2007 Dr. Jim Thorsell
 * 2005 Dr. J. Gordon Nelson
 * 2003 Mike Harcourt, Derek Thompson
 * 2002 Elizabeth May
 * 2001 Monte Hummel
 * 2000 Mike and Diane McIvor
 * 1999 Dr. Stephen Herrero
 * 1998 Dr. John Theberge (with special recognition of Mary Theberge)
 * 1997 Cliff Wallis
 * 1996 Chief Emeritus Ruby Dunstan
 * 1994 Dr. J. Stan Rowe (d. April 6, 2004)
 * 1992 Jennifer Shay, Vernon C. Brink
 * 1990 Andy Russell, (d. June 1, 2005)
 * 1989 Gavin Henderson
 * 1987 Alex T. Davidson
 * 1985 Michael J. Nolan, George W. Scotter, Charles Sauriol
 * 1981 George F. Ledingham
 * 1978 William Fergus Lothian
 * 1975 Roderick Haig-Brown (author)|Roderick Haig-Brown
 * 1972 Hon. Jean Chrétien

title: Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jessica Stover

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete (discounting ballot stuffing). Ingoolemo  talk  19:23, 2005 September 6 (UTC)

Jessica Stover
Vanity actor site/purported AOL show got six google hits. Currently is studying acting. Paul Klenk 08:21, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, article does not allege notability. Zoe 08:26, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ^ Drdisque 08:33, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete SaltyPig 12:19, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. The article most certainly does allege notability. Creator, producer and star of, what is essentially, a television show. It's just broadcast on AOL instead of a conventional network. She appears to have had numerous celebrity guests and filmed on location around the world. If her show were on a conventional network there would be no argument about keeping this article. Pburka 14:49, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - I'm a little hestitant, because I can't verify the AOL "show" exists, since I'm not on AOL. Also, I reworded the whole article, since it was an exact copy from the web site, which says "All rights reserved".  If her website is not a complete hoax , it's a reasonable keep (both for her webcast and to a lessor extent as a blogebrity).  --rob 18:10, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not seeing notability here. The show is not on broadcast, cable, or satellite TV; it's apparently just something you can access on AOL, like a web site or blog, but it's video? I don't think AOL "content" automatically confers notability.  MCB 18:17, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Tenative delete; I couldn't find her on IMDb...if I knew more about this webcasted teen show on AOL I might change my mind. Everyking 19:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * delete. if we add this, we should also add all existing acting students in the whole world! __earth 04:59, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nominator --nixie 05:02, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: The nominator's Google hit count of 6 is far less than the 33 uniques I got using her show's exact title (in quotes) or the 133 uniques I got with her first+last name in quotes.  I verified that even the 133rd unique hit was about *this* "Jessica Stover" (only a few were about another girl).  --rob 06:03, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * this google argument people toss around all day at wikipedia is ludicrous. nobody knows me, and i have 119 unique hits, 100% of which refer to me (unique name spelling). the article's atrocious, she's not a "blogebrity", and getting google hits is a piece of cake (just like "releasing an album", "hosting a TV show", "acting in a movie", "making a podcast" blah blah). SaltyPig 06:36, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. The world is full of wannabe-stars and odious blog-celebs. Who'll miss just one. --Agamemnon2 07:08, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'm hoping that's a typo and you meant "dubious".  It's ok to vfd an article because the notability and/or claims made in it are "dubious".  But, it's wrong to vfd an article, because you find a certain group of people to be "odious".  Many valid wiki articles are of odious people who have done odious things. --rob 07:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * i doubt "odious" is a typo, and i agree with Agamemnon2. it's not wrong to criticize a page for the subject's odiousness when that trait is not only directly related to a desire to have one's name plastered around (perhaps specifically at wikipedia), but likely forms the sole weak (yet disguised) excuse for inclusion — the subject (or friend, relative, fanatic) wants to have an article here. see fallacy of accident for more on why your example of generally odious people has no merit in this discussion. further, it's mistaken to presume that the terse comments after votes compose a full case. what's going on here is that wikipedia articles are used for original-research publicity (and google priming) rather than for encyclopedic knowledge distribution. that's not obvious to you in this example? SaltyPig 08:59, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete unless shown notable. If her claim to fame is an an actress, no IMDB presense severely hurts her case.  If her claim to fame is as a blogger, well, that's just silly.  Having a blog makes one about as famous as does having a cat.  Friday (talk) 13:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment: I updated the article, and included a few notable names she's had on her show.  I think her ability to have extended length (not "assembly line" or "red carpet") interviews with famous people has some significance to this debate.  --rob 15:00, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete — Nah, ... sorry. :) — RJH 16:28, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep definitely notable and has a strong following. Sean Bonner 18:59, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep as per Pburka. Hall Monitor 22:56, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Researched her and she is definitely notable per statements above and more. Feel that some of the delete comments weren't researched or are now moot as the wiki page has been updated with more information. Knowstuff 18:51, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * if this article stays, i'm gonna create an article about myself and point to jessica stover as evidence that i'm "notable". these vanity pages are trying way too hard, and it shows; nothing there except "became known" claims for a comparative unknown. SaltyPig 19:14, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: Who's Jessica Strover? Why haven't I heard of this actress? 3 September 2005 (UTC) 67.176.186.22
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Italian Line

Italian Line and from 1992 Italia Line, whose official name was Italia di Navigazione S.p.A., was a passenger shipping line that operated regular transatlantic services between Italy and the United States, and Italy and South America. During the late 1960s the company turned to running cruises, and from 1981 it became a global freight operator.

History
The company was founded in 1932 through a merger of the Genoa-based Navigazione Generale Italiana (NGI), the Turin-based Lloyd Sabaudo, and the Trieste-based Cosulich STN lines, encouraged by the Italian government. The new company acquired the Cosulich-owned ships MS Saturnia and MS Vulcania, the Lloyd Sabaudo-owned SS Conte Rosso, SS Conte Biancamano and SS Conte Grande and the NGI-owned SS Giulio Cesare, SS Duilio, SS Roma (1926) and MS Augustus (1926). The same year two previously ordered ocean liners were delivered to the company: SS Rex, that won the Blue Riband in 1933, and SS Conte di Savoia.

In World War II the company lost many ships, including Rex and Conte di Savoia. Others were captured by the United States and converted into troopships; four of them survived the war: Conte Biancamano, Conte Grande, Saturnia, and Vulcania.

Commercial service was resumed in 1947 under the company's new name Società di navigazione Italia. In addition to the four vessels returned to the company by the United States, two new vessels, SS Andrea Doria and SS Cristoforo Colombo were commissioned in 1953 and 1954. In 1956, Andrea Doria, the company's three-year-old flagship collided with the Swedish ship Stockholm near Nantucket and sank, with passenger deaths estimated at 46 or 55. The company replaced Andrea Doria with SS Leonardo da Vinci (1958), which went into service in 1960. This ship was based on the same design as Andrea Doria, but was larger, and featured technical innovations.

In the late 1950s aircraft passenger travel had yet to have a noticeable effect on ocean-going passenger numbers between the United States and the Mediterranean. The Italian Line, therefore, ordered two new ships: SS Michelangelo and SS Raffaello. Building the ships took longer than expected, and they were not delivered until 1965. Being late into service, they were unable to compete profitably on the North Atlantic route. Although planned for cruising as an alternative, the ships had several design flaws that made their use as cruise ships problematic.

Despite huge financial loss, the Italian Line operated the transatlantic route until 1976, after which the Leonardo da Vinci was withdrawn from service; the Michelangelo and Raffaello had been sold the previous year. The Cristoforo Colombo was also withdrawn from service at this time. The Leonardo da Vinci became a cruise ship in 1977–78, after which it was withdrawn due to high fuel costs. In 1979 and 1980 the company operated two ex-Lloyd Triestino liners, SS Galileo Galilei and SS Guglielmo Marconi, as cruise ships, but this again proved unprofitable.

Because of the unprofitability of the cruise business, the Italian Line turned to freight shipping. It operated its principal container services between the Mediterranean, the west coast of North America, and Central and South America, carrying about of freight in 2001.

Previously owned by the Italian government, the company was privatized in 1998 when sold to d'Amico Società di Navigazione. In August 2002, it was acquired by CP Ships, and in 2005 the Italian Line name ceased to exist following CP's one-brand strategy. CP Ships itself was bought-out in late 2005 by TUI AG, and merged with Hapag-Lloyd in mid-2006.

International identifiers
SCAC Code: ITAU

BIC Code (Container prefixes): ITAU

Container ships

 * GRT = gross register tonnage
 * GT = gross tonnage

title: Italian Line


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Non-epileptic seizure

Non-epileptic seizures (NES), also known as non-epileptic events, are paroxysmal events that appear similar to an epileptic seizure but do not involve abnormal, rhythmic discharges of neurons in the brain. Symptoms may include shaking, loss of consciousness, and loss of bladder control.

They may or may not be caused by either physiological or psychological conditions. Physiological causes include fainting, sleep disorders, and heart arrhythmias. Psychological causes are known as psychogenic non-epileptic seizures. Diagnosis may be based on the history of the event and physical examination with support from heart testing and an EEG.

Terminology
The International League Against Epilepsy (ILAE) define an epileptic seizure as "a transient occurrence of signs and/or symptoms due to abnormal excessive or synchronous neuronal activity in the brain." Convulsive or non-convulsive seizures can occur in someone who does not have epilepsy – as a consequence of head injury, drug overdose, toxins, eclampsia or febrile convulsions. A provoked (or an un-provoked, or an idiopathic) seizure must generally occur twice before a person is diagnosed with epilepsy.

When used on its own, the term seizure usually refers to an epileptic seizure. The lay use of this word can also include sudden attacks of illness, loss of control, spasm or stroke. Where the physician is uncertain as to the diagnosis, the medical term paroxysmal event and the lay terms spells, funny turns or attacks may be used.

Signs and symptoms

 * Convulsions
 * Crying out or making a noise
 * Stiffening
 * Jerky, rhythmic or twitching motions
 * Falling down
 * Loss of consciousness
 * Confusion after returning to consciousness
 * Loss of bladder control
 * Biting the tongue

Causes
Possible causes include:
 * Syncope (fainting)
 * Reflex anoxic seizures
 * Breath-holding spells of childhood
 * Cataplexy
 * Hyperekplexia, also called startle syndrome
 * Migraine
 * Narcolepsy
 * Non-epileptic myoclonus
 * Opsoclonus
 * Parasomnias, including night terrors
 * Paroxysmal kinesigenic dyskinesia
 * Repetitive or ritualistic behaviours
 * Tics
 * Hypoglycemia

Diagnosis
A wide array of phenomena may or may not resemble epileptic seizures, which may lead to people who do not have epilepsy being misdiagnosed. Indeed, a significant percentage of people initially diagnosed with epilepsy will later heal. In one study, the majority of children referred to a secondary clinic with "fits, faints and funny turns" did not have epilepsy, with syncope (fainting) as the most common alternative. In another study, 39% of children referred to a tertiary epilepsy centre did not have epilepsy, with staring episodes in mentally challenged children as the most common alternative. In adults, the figures are similar, with one study reporting a 26% rate of misdiagnosis.

Differentiation of a non-epileptic attack from an epileptic seizure includes the patient keeping their eyes closed and rarely causing themselves harm (both more common in non-epileptic attacks)

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Eddie Marsh (footballer)

Wilson Edmund Marsh (14 December 1927 – 18 April 2010) was a Scottish footballer who played as a goalkeeper in the Football League.

Marsh was born in Scotland, however he grew up in South London. He signed for Charlton Athletic from Erith & Belvedere in 1950 as a back-up for the Addicks first choice goalkeeper at the time Sam Bartram. He found first team opportunities limited at The Valley and moved on to Luton Town in 1956, and later on to Torquay United in 1959. In the 1959–60 season he was part of Torquay's first ever promotion squad making 20 appearances under Eric Webber, as United were promoted to the Third Division. Over the next three seasons he competed with Mervyn Gill for the number one spot at Plainmoor, making 64 league and cup appearances. After a short spell at Bideford he retired from the game to become a representative for a paint company.

title: Eddie Marsh (footballer)


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Christophe Bazivamo

Christophe Bazivamo is the Minister of Lands, Environment, Forestry, Water, and Mines in Rwanda. In 2003 and 2004 he was the Minister of Local Government, Community Development and Social Affairs. In 2005 he was the Minister of Internal Security. In 2000, 2001 and 2002 he served as Executive Secretary of the National Electoral Commission. He is a member of the Rwandan Patriotic Front, and since 2002 he has been the vice-president of the party.

Bazivamo is now a member of east African community parliament.

title: Christophe Bazivamo


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Circus World Museum

The Circus World Museum is a museum complex in Baraboo, Wisconsin, devoted to circus-related history. The museum features circus artifacts and exhibits and hosts daily live circus performances throughout the summer. It is owned by the Wisconsin Historical Society and operated by the non-profit Circus World Museum Foundation. The museum was the major participant in the Great Circus Parade held from 1963 to 2009.

History
Circus World Museum is located in Baraboo, Wisconsin, because Baraboo was home to the Ringling Brothers. It was from Baraboo in 1884 that the Ringling Brothers Circus began their first tour as a circus. Over six seasons, the circus expanded from a wagon show to a railroad show with 225 employees, touring cities across the United States each summer. Baraboo remained the circus's headquarters and wintering grounds until 1918, when the Ringling Brothers Circus combined with the Barnum and Bailey Circus, which the Ringling Brothers had bought out in 1908. The combined entity, Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus, was successful until 2017 when it took its final bow on Sunday, May 21, 2017, in Uniondale, New York.

In 1954, John M. Kelley, a former attorney for the Ringling Brothers, incorporated the Circus World Museum with the intent of forming a museum of the Ringling Brothers Circus and circus history in general. By this time the popularity of circuses and other live shows was declining in favor of new media, such as television. After an initial period of organization and fundraising, the museum acquired a large site in Baraboo that included the former wintering grounds of the Ringling Brothers Circus. This site was deeded to the State Historical Society of Wisconsin (now called the Wisconsin Historical Society) to be used as the museum's location, and the Circus World Museum opened to the public on July 1, 1959.

Owned by the Wisconsin Historical Society, the museum sits on some of the land owned by the Ringlings, and includes eight of the ten remaining Ringling buildings on the grounds. Circus World Museum holds one of the largest collections of circus materials in the world, including circus wagons, posters, photography, and artifacts used by shows from all over the United States. The museum also has smaller collections of Wild West shows and carnival materials.

Exhibits
Circus World Museum encompasses several buildings holding numerous exhibits on circus history.

Ringlingville consists of the remaining buildings of the original wintering grounds of the Ringling Brothers Circus, a National Historic Landmark. Buildings in Ringlingville include the Ring Barn, Elephant House, Animal House, Baggage Horse Barn, Winter Quarters Office, and Wardrobe Department. Tours of Ringlingville present information on the history of the Ringling Brothers Circus, as well as offering behind-the-scenes glimpses into the efforts taken by the circus while preparing for shows.

The Irvin Feld Exhibit Hall is the museum's largest building, and houses exhibits on the history of the Ringling Brothers Circus, as well as other exhibits relating to general aspects of circuses and circus history.

The Hippodrome is a permanent big-top that houses the museum's daily circus and magic show performances.

The W.W. Deppe Wagon Pavilion houses a collection of fifty restored antique circus wagons.

The C.P. Fox Wagon Restoration Center is used by the museum to refurbish Circus Wagons, and visitors to the building can view wagon restorations that are in progress.

The Robert L. Parkinson Library and Research Center is a research facility holding collections of circus-related books, photographs, archives, and periodicals. The library is open to the public at no charge while staff are present.

Transportation
Due to the long distance between Baraboo and Milwaukee, the Circus World Museum's parade was annually hauled by rail over Chicago and Northwestern (C&NW), Milwaukee Road (MR), Wisconsin and Southern (WSOR), Wisconsin Central (WC), and Soo Line (SOO) trackage, and this lasted until 2000. When traveling by rail, the museum's Circus train would normally be pulled by diesel locomotives, but on some occasions, it would be pulled by a steam locomotive. Such steam locomotives include Chicago Burlington and Quincy No. 4960 in 1965 and 1966, Grand Trunk Western No. 5629 in 1967 and 1968, Southern Railway No. 4501 in 1973, and C&NW No. 1385 in 1985, 1986, and 1987.

Great Circus Parade
The Great Circus Parade, which featured historic circus wagons from the Circus World Museum, was held in Milwaukee in 1963, and in various cities between 1985 and 2005, primarily Milwaukee (1985–2003) and Baraboo, Wisconsin (2004–2005), and Chicago, Illinois. When held in Milwaukee, the parade entailed a two-day journey by train across Wisconsin, from Baraboo to Milwaukee, making brief stops at cities along the way. An encampment on Milwaukee's lakefront allowed visitors to view the circus wagons up close, take elephant, camel, and zebra rides, and view historical circus artifacts. The parade itself took a three-mile route through downtown Milwaukee. It was on hiatus during the mid-2000s, but it returned to Milwaukee in 2009. The parade is expected to run every few years in the future.

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1996 Yukon general election

The 1996 Yukon general election was held on September 30, 1996 to elect the seventeen members of the 29th Yukon Legislative Assembly in Yukon Territory, Canada. The governing Yukon Party, a conservative party, was defeated by the social democratic New Democratic Party (NDP). The NDP formed a new majority government of the territory with 11 seats. Party leader Piers McDonald became Government Leader. The Yukon Party and the centrist Yukon Liberal Party each won three seats, although Liberal leader Ken Taylor failed to be elected.

Results by party
! rowspan="2" colspan="2" style="text-align:left;"|Party ! rowspan="2" style="text-align:left;"|Party leader !rowspan="2"| Candidates ! colspan="4" style="text-align:center;"|Seats !colspan="3" style="text-align:center;"|Popular vote
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 * - style="background:#ccc;"
 * style="text-align:center;"|1992
 * style="text-align:center;font-size: 80%;"|Dissol.
 * style="text-align:center;"|1996
 * style="text-align:center;"|Change
 * style="text-align:center;"|#
 * style="text-align:center;"|%
 * style="text-align:center;"|Change

 * align=left|Piers McDonald
 * align="right"|16
 * align="right"|6
 * align="right"|6
 * align="right"|11
 * align="right"|+5
 * align="right"|5,760
 * align="right"|39.81%
 * align="right"|+4.73%

 * align=left|John Ostashek
 * align="right"|15
 * align="right"|7
 * align="right"|7
 * align="right"|3
 * align="right"|-4
 * align="right"|4,392
 * align="right"|30.36%
 * align="right"|-5.52%

 * align=left|Ken Taylor
 * align="right"|16
 * align="right"|1
 * align="right"|1
 * align="right"|3
 * align="right"|+2
 * align="right"|3,464
 * align="right"|23.94%
 * align="right"|+7.84%

 * colspan="2" style="text-align:left;"|Independent
 * align="right"|7
 * align="right"|3
 * align="right"|3
 * align="right"|0
 * align="right"|-3
 * align="right"|852
 * align="right"|5.89%
 * align="right"|N/A
 * style="text-align:left;" colspan="3"|Total
 * style="text-align:right;"|54
 * style="text-align:right;"|17
 * style="text-align:right;"|17
 * style="text-align:right;"|17
 * style="text-align:right;"|
 * style="text-align:right;"|14,468
 * style="text-align:right;"|100.00%
 * style="text-align:right;"|
 * }
 * }

Incumbents not Running for Reelection
The following MLAs had announced that they would not be running in the 1996 election:

Independent
 * Bea Firth (Riverdale South)

New Democratic Party
 * Danny Joe (Mayo-Tatchun)
 * Margaret Commodore (Whitehorse Centre)

Yukon Party
 * Bill Brewster (Kluane)
 * David Millar (Klondike)
 * John Devries (Watson Lake)

Riding Results
Bold indicates party leaders

† - denotes a retiring incumbent MLA

530 29 372 603 96 21 377 144 177 66 328 325 242 221 441 251 182 21 454 180 484 247 299 166 191 403 384 181 397 435 347 450 146 349 476 260 160 267 484 49 317 69 * 69 27 442 249 106 40 328 216 188 486 323 383
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Faro
 * Trevor Harding
 * Trevor Harding
 * Trevor Harding
 * Ed Peake
 * Ed Peake
 * Ed Peake
 * Ed Peake
 * Trevor Harding
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Klondike
 * Tim Gerberding
 * Trevor Harding
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Klondike
 * Tim Gerberding
 * Tim Gerberding
 * Tim Gerberding
 * Peter Jenkins
 * Peter Jenkins
 * Glen Everitt
 * Glen Everitt
 * John Cramp
 * John Cramp
 * David Millar†
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Kluane
 * Gary McRobb
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Kluane
 * Gary McRobb
 * Gary McRobb
 * Olli Wirth
 * Olli Wirth
 * John Farynowski
 * John Farynowski
 * Bonnie Lock
 * Bonnie Lock
 * Bill Brewster†
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Lake Laberge
 * Doug Livingston
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Lake Laberge
 * Doug Livingston
 * Doug Livingston
 * Mickey Fisher
 * Mickey Fisher
 * Linda Biensch
 * Linda Biensch
 * Mark Bain
 * Mark Bain
 * Mickey Fisher
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|McIntyre-Takhini
 * Piers McDonald
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|McIntyre-Takhini
 * Piers McDonald
 * Piers McDonald
 * Scott Howell
 * Scott Howell
 * Rosemary Couch
 * Rosemary Couch
 * Clinton Fraser
 * Clinton Fraser
 * Piers McDonald
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Mayo-Tatchun
 * Eric Fairclough
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Mayo-Tatchun
 * Eric Fairclough
 * Eric Fairclough
 * Michael McGinnis
 * Michael McGinnis
 * Danny Joe†
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Mount Lorne
 * Lois Moorcroft
 * Danny Joe†
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Mount Lorne
 * Lois Moorcroft
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Mount Lorne
 * Lois Moorcroft
 * Lois Moorcroft
 * Lois Moorcroft
 * Allan Doherty
 * Allan Doherty
 * Ken Taylor
 * Ken Taylor
 * Allen Luheck
 * Allen Luheck
 * Lois Moorcroft
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Porter Creek North
 * Luigi Zanasi
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Porter Creek North
 * Luigi Zanasi
 * Luigi Zanasi
 * John Ostashek
 * John Ostashek
 * Don Roberts
 * Don Roberts
 * John Ostashek
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Porter Creek South
 * Mark Dupuis
 * John Ostashek
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Porter Creek South
 * Mark Dupuis
 * Mark Dupuis
 * Mark Dupuis
 * Alan Nordling
 * Alan Nordling
 * Pat Duncan
 * Pat Duncan
 * Alan Nordling
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Riverdale North
 * Dave Stockdale
 * Alan Nordling
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Riverdale North
 * Dave Stockdale
 * Dave Stockdale
 * Dave Stockdale
 * Doug Phillips
 * Doug Phillips
 * Flo Leblanc-Hutchinson
 * Flo Leblanc-Hutchinson
 * Doug Phillips
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Riverdale South
 * Barbara Toombs
 * Doug Phillips
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Riverdale South
 * Barbara Toombs
 * Barbara Toombs
 * Barbara Toombs
 * Barbara Toombs
 * Barbara Toombs
 * Sue Edelman
 * Sue Edelman
 * Bea Firth†
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Riverside
 * Gary Umbrich
 * Bea Firth†
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Riverside
 * Gary Umbrich
 * Gary Umbrich
 * Gary Umbrich
 * Ed Henderson
 * Ed Henderson
 * Jack Cable
 * Jack Cable
 * Jack Cable
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Ross River-Southern Lakes
 * Dave Keenan
 * Jack Cable
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Ross River-Southern Lakes
 * Dave Keenan
 * Dave Keenan
 * Dave Keenan
 * Bill Munroe
 * Bill Munroe
 * Bill Munroe
 * Bill Munroe
 * Willard Phelps
 * Willard Phelps
 * Willard Phelps
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Vuntut Gwitchin
 * Robert Bruce
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Vuntut Gwitchin
 * Robert Bruce
 * Robert Bruce
 * Esau Schafer
 * Esau Schafer
 * Shirlee Frost
 * Shirlee Frost
 * Esau Schafer
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Watson Lake
 * Dennis Fentie
 * Esau Schafer
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Watson Lake
 * Dennis Fentie
 * Dennis Fentie
 * Dennis Fentie
 * Barrie Ravenhill
 * Barrie Ravenhill
 * Dave Kalles
 * Dave Kalles
 * Mickey Thomas
 * Mickey Thomas
 * John Devries†
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Whitehorse Centre
 * Todd Hardy
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Whitehorse Centre
 * Todd Hardy
 * Todd Hardy
 * Linda Dixon
 * Linda Dixon
 * Jon Breen
 * Jon Breen
 * Margaret Commodore†
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Whitehorse West
 * David Sloan
 * Margaret Commodore†
 * bgcolor=whitesmoke|Whitehorse West
 * David Sloan
 * David Sloan
 * David Sloan
 * Shelda Hutton
 * Shelda Hutton
 * Larry Bagnell
 * Larry Bagnell
 * David Sloan
 * }
 * David Sloan
 * }
 * }

 * Because of the tie vote, Robert Bruce was declared elected after his name was drawn from a hat. He was later re-elected after a 1997 by-election after irregularities led to a court order invalidating the election.

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Jennifer Kirk

Jennifer Anne "Jenny" Kirk (born August 15, 1984) is an American former competitive figure skater. She is the 2000 World Junior champion and the 2002 Four Continents champion.

Early life
Jennifer Kirk was born in Newton, Massachusetts. Prior to skating, she was a gymnast until the age of nine. She also studied ballet and once performed with the Boston Ballet.

Career
Kirk grew interested in skating and began training with coaches Evy and Mary Scotvold at the age of 10 at the Skating Club of Boston. She was featured as a young up-and-coming skater on the PBS shows Zoom and Arthur. At 15, a piece of bone tore from her pelvis and jutted into her hip flexor.

Kirk won gold at the 2000 World Junior Championships. In 2002, she captured the Four Continents title. At the 2002 World Championships, she placed 15th in the short program before withdrawing due to a hip injury.

Ahead of the 2002–03 season, Kirk moved to train with Richard Callaghan in Detroit. In addition to single skating, she also briefly dabbled in pair skating with Fedor Andreev in the summer of 2003, describing it as fun but challenging. In the summer of 2004, Kirk moved to the Toyota Sports Center in El Segundo, California, to train with Frank Carroll and Ken Congemi.

Kirk won the bronze medal at the 2004 U.S. Championships. The following season, she withdrew from her first Grand Prix assignment due to an injury. She placed 10th at the 2004 Cup of Russia and won bronze at the 2005 Four Continents.

On September 7, 2005, Kirk announced her retirement from competitive figure skating. She moved to Boston, where she worked as a coach, but later returned to Southern California. Kirk's decision to quit competitive skating the year before the Olympics was profiled on Ice Diaries.

Kirk is a member of the U.S. Figure Skating International Committee. In the fall of 2012, she and her colleague, David Lease, launched "The Skating Lesson", a podcast and website. The two interview current and former skaters, coaches, choreographers and skating officials including Debi Thomas, Frank Carroll, Sandra Bezic, Alissa Czisny, Tiffany Chin, and Rudy Galindo. The web-series has garnered a following of thousands of figure skating fans with its weekly video interviews.

Personal life
In May 1999, Kirk's mother, Pat Harris, was diagnosed with breast cancer. She died in August 2001. The loss of her mother was one of the reasons Kirk decided to retire. "Although I still love skating very much, my passion and love for the competitive aspect of the sport has dwindled following the death of my mother in 2001 and my nagging hip injuries." In 2009, she revealed her career-long struggle with eating disorders and mentioned that it had been a factor in her decision to retire. She also stated that disordered eating was very common among skaters but not enough was being done to address the problem.

Results
GP: Grand Prix; JGP: Junior Grand Prix

 * At the 2002 World Championships, Kirk was 15th in the short program before withdrawing.

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Beethoven Peninsula

The Beethoven Peninsula is a deeply indented, ice-covered peninsula, 60 mi long in a northeast–southwest direction and 60 mi wide at its broadest part, forming the southwest part of Alexander Island, which lies off the southwestern portion of the Antarctic Peninsula. The south side of the peninsula is supported by the Bach Ice Shelf whilst the north side of the peninsula is supported by the Wilkins Ice Shelf. The Mendelssohn Inlet, the Brahms Inlet and the Verdi Inlet apparently intrude into it. The Bach Ice Shelf, Rossini Point and Berlioz Point are some distance away, on the Ronne Entrance from the Southern Ocean. Beethoven Peninsula is one of the eight peninsulas of Alexander Island.

The peninsula was first seen and photographed from the air in 1940 by the US Antarctic Service, which compiled the first rough map of southwest Alexander Island. It was resighted and photographed from the air by the Ronne Antarctic Research Expedition (RARE), 1947–48, and remapped from RARE photos by Derek J.H. Searle of the Falkland Islands Dependencies Survey in 1960. It was named by the UK Antarctic Place-Names Committee after the composer Ludwig van Beethoven.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brillant

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was BJAODN - after all sockpuppets ignored. FCYTravis 18:38, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Brillant
Non-notable outside The Daily WTF forum. Zetawoof 08:30, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * BJAODN It has instantly caught on with every programmer I linked to the original entry on The Daily WTF, so I think it merits preserving. Aristotle 02:45, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Quite hilarious, but unfortunately not-notable.  Thatdog 08:35, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn. Dottore So 08:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete; non-notable. --Shutranm 12:00, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I really liked the entry, but it is true that it doesn't seem to mentioned in many places and therefore not really notable.  user:Matt.whitby
 * Keep SaltyPig 12:22, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * BJAODN - non-notable, but the article is well-written enough, and the subject entertaining enough, to warrant keeping it for posterity. ~ Irrel
 * BJAODN Should be preserved for future generations... Cdyson37 14:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * BJAODN I wrote the original article, so I may be biased. I agree that it is non-notable, but I think it warrants keeping. DZ-Jay 15:11:25, 2005-08-28 (UTC)
 * Keep for at least three months. This phrase might catch on in wider usage as WTF membership grows and Brillant would then be submitted to Wiki again. User:aikimark
 * User's first edit. FCYTravis 19:25, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Popular tech talk often enters the more common public domain, where it is often mangled and misrepresented by media who do not understand the origins. Brillant has been very popular, very quickly and stands a high probability wider usage.  It is important that such terms have a clear history of the origin of a word to prevent misuse (such as when the press used the word hacker instead of cracker, permanently destroying the original meaning of the term) xepol 17:50, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * User's first edit. FCYTravis 19:25, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Come on... an in-joke on a nn web site, with no other independent existence? MCB 18:21, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or BJAODN. Non-notable and non-encyclopedic, and I note that "brillant" has not become "very popular very quickly." FCYTravis 19:22, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, in-term for one forum. Zoe 21:46, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Does come up 486 times on Google though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt.whitby (talk • contribs) 21:56, 28 August 2005
 * Duplicate vote. Oh dear. --Zetawoof 02:52, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect, no merge as misspelling of "brilliant". Andrew pmk | Talk 22:00, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep or BJAODN. If this site claims to be a repository of human knowledge, let all 'knowledge' remain as it is. Lithorien 16:51, 28 August 2005 (PST)
 * User's second edit. Zoe 04:34, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * And that matters why, Zoe? It doesn't take a hundred edits to know the rules. Lithorien 22:41, August 28, 2005 (PST)
 * jack maneuver there, zoe. what's the point? SaltyPig 05:47, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Noting attempts to stuff the ballotbox, perhaps? --Calton | Talk 05:56, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Check the IP addresses of the users. Don't try to throw mud in their faces for a small edit count. Lithorien 06:05, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Only developers can check IP addresses. But an admin who closes a vote can take into consideration the length of time that a signed in User has been with Wikipedia, and discount votes of those who have no stake in the project.  Zoe 05:52, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * lithorien's first edit was august 2004. "Noting attempts" and timidly implying guilt that can't be disproved are radically different. SaltyPig 06:19, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Trivial. --Calton | Talk 05:56, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Daily WTF. Radiant_ >|< 07:37, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, but BJAODN if people want it there. This sounds like an attempt to use Wikipedia to help spread this new usage of a term.  WP:NOT.  Friday (talk) 13:23, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * As the original author of the article, I can assure you this wasn't the intention -- it was a misunderstanding of the policies about encyclopedic relevance. I do admit it is non-notable, but think it should be kept in BJAODN. DZ-Jay 14:56:49, 2005-08-29 (UTC)
 * Keep or BJAODN. This is a borderline case, and I find keeping it more prudent for now, after all it isn't causing much harm. R6144 15:16, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep: the origin of this sarcastic term is interesting, not to mention rather humorous, and it doesn't hurt anything to keep it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.186.184.75 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 29 August 2005
 * Delete.  ral  315  17:41, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, nn. Redirect to brilliant.  -Sean Curtin 01:17, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * But that's a disambiguous page, it doesn't contain any content, it'll still need to point somewhere... DZ-Jay 09:36:59, 2005-08-30 (UTC)
 * Keep or Move to TheDailyWTF. The first times it was a BJAODN, but IMHO now it is a new word on its own. 62.14.177.107 10:38, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nominator.--nixie 10:41, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If we apply the rule that this term is not notable outside WTF, the same would apply to all the Slashdot articles in Wikipedia, which lots of people use often for understanding jokes made in ./ but otherwise are not known for non Slashdot's readers. Regards 138.100.12.136 14:56, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep or Move to TheDailyWTF. No harm being done. Ytram
 * Merge to The Daily WTF. If it gains significant usage outside of that forum, then recreate it. htonl 16:09, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep or Move To The Daily WTF - a thing of beauty is a joy forever. --Maurits 20:47, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep this has spread rapidly amongst coders i know - vDave420
 * Posted by 66.134.25.19, not a registered user.
 * Keep It is becomming quite the developer catchphrase. 65.240.133.194 14:16, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Good write-up. And create The Daily WTF. --2mcm 22:14, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * BJAODN. Clearly not encylopedic, but amusing and well-written. Possibly merge to The Daily WTF (which would be merited) if someone writes it. --Zootm 10:52, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, nn. Redirect to brilliant. -TNS
 * Improperly signed vote by TheNotoriousSkinny. User's first edit. --Zetawoof 07:02, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Daily WTF (of which more should be written), as it's definitely part of the site's culture. It isn't a Bad Joke, and is wayyyy too factual to be very Nonsensical, so I think BJAODN would be a wrong place. --Wwwwolf 15:05, 2 September 2005 (UTC) Changing vote:
 * BJAODN, on the account that TheDailyWTF.com seems to fail WP:WEB, so moving it to an article about it would be pointless because that in turn might get deleted; they have Alexa rank around 47,000 and no apparent way to check how many registered members there are, but I cursorily only found user IDs up to around 2000. Besides, we're not exactly talking of a in-joke-spreading movement that could rival Slashdot =) --Wwwwolf 15:31, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * BJAODN, Mayby even KEEP. This term has swept through my my company of over 600 and is used as commonly as PHB.  The tribal consensus of who was brillant at my office was quite amazing.
 * Unsigned vote by Ded.morris. User's first edit.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.