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Hmmm, ABC Local Radio's PM current affairs programme tonight said that Brogden's alleged misbehaviour occurred on July 29, 2005. This Wikipedia article currently states August 5. Can anybody confirm? --Humehwy 09:15, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * It is disputed - the papers have also noticed this contradiction. Ambi 13:09, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Lack of neutrality
Stating that calling someone a mail-order bride is "racist" is clearly pov in my opinion, so I have removed it. In the UK probably a majority of "mail-order Brides" are white (from Eastern Europe). It was clearly rude and inaccurate, but readers should be allowed to make up their own minds what other adjectives to apply to it, not instructed to follow a Wikipedia line. Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral. 82.35.34.11 16:00, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe so, but he was almost universally condemned for it. Have noted this. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:03, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I think you acted in bad faith by accusing me of bias. I reverted your edit because it was a racist remark. The Carrs interpreted it such, Brogden accepted such, and the media depicted such. And it is particular naïveté to say that the term "mail-order bride" cannot be used in a racist context because the (you assume) majority are white. Whites, particularly those Slavic or of the Caucasus, are as frequently the subject of racism as others', and this term implicitly afirms such. Nevertheless, I am satisfied with Ta bu's revision (thanks :)). In future, don't be so accusatory.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:57, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Furthermore, the complete comment - "ship his mail-order bride back to where she came from, for all I care" - was indeed said in a racist context.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 06:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I believe that this article is far from neutral and I reject Ambi's indiscriminate reversion of my recent changes. Just because the Carrs or others may have said that they interpreted it as racist doesn't make it one. Many did not believe that it was a racist remark - it is no more racist than calling somebody a prostitute - it is a neutral term and depending on one's upbringing and beliefs, it may be considered an insult. It this case it clearly was intended as insult. Some say that it was actually an insult not towards Helena, but towards Bob Carr in a quiet reference to rumoured closet homosexuality

 * I also find the phrase 'almost universally condemned' to be ridiculous - either it was univeral or it wasn't! I think it is more NPOV to say 'some journalists/reporters/editorials/newspapers instead of grossly generalising.

 * Furthermore, I believe that it is an important fact that he knew the journalists in question and they were not just strangers he met - I think it should be up to the journalists in question whether they took offence to Brogden's actions. Does anyone here actually know the reactions of the journalists? Do we know for sure that he seriously propositioned them or perhaps it was just a very unwise drunken jibe.

 * In all these cases its best to be neutral and let the reader draw their own conclusions. 60.225.92.127 08:33, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Mate, it was racist and even he accepted as such. I'm willing to bet it wasn't meant in a truly hateful manner, given that he was drunk and we all say nasty things, but it was definitely insulting, offensive and highly inappropriate for such a high-powered politician. I suggest you quit flogging this dead horse, seeing as no one but you thinks otherwise. misanthrope 18:42, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

This line from the article gives me an amusing mental image: "Lateline reported that he pinched one journalist's behind, and propositioned the other". Does anyone else think this reads as "... and propositioned the other [journalist's behind]"? Hesperian 07:04, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Heh. May be better to switch it around "Lateline reported that he propositioned one journalist and pinched the behind of another." Ambi 13:06, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I laughed very loudly in an university library reading that. Thanks, you've made my day so far :). --Cyberjunkie | Talk 03:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * HAHA! Nicely spotted! misanthrope 18:42, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Attempted Suicide
Any credible information on the method yet? I'm seeing "alcohol stupor", "slit wrists"... Also, perhaps someone could change the main page article to reflect his suicide attempt. 203.45.114.193 22:27, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I was thinking of adding in some info about the suicide attempt but I think that it could be premature. Even though wikipedia should attempt to report the facts "as they are" I think that it will be difficult to write about with appropriate sensitivity until some time has passed. Gil-Galad

The word that is coming out is now "attempted self-harm". I'm not sure how credible saying slit wrists are, however, I may be wrong. jockmonkey

Is there any confirmation that he "attempted suicide"? There is a considerable difference between self-harm (which has been reported in the media) and suicide/attempted-suicide. The article should reflect this. --Daveb 11:10, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Provide a source. Everything I've read has suggested that it was a suicide attempt - I have not seen anyone suggesting that he was just trying to cut himself. Ambi 11:27, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Barry O'Farrell's comments state self-harm - one could assume he is more in the know than speculating journos. There have been no official reports (medical/police/etc) stating attemoted suicide, to the best of my knowledge.
 * Again, there is a considerable difference between the concepts of self harm and attempted suicide (or attempted suicide and parasuicide for that matter), and until more facts come out we should assume the broader "self-harm". Your use of the term "just trying to cut himself" seems to demonstrate a limited knowledge of the issue of self harm.
 * --Daveb 11:42, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * In the context, it would appear that O'Farrell's comments were simply a polite way of putting that he'd attempted suicide. If you can't find media sources supporting this view, I'll be reverting again. Ambi 12:04, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * That's a brave call. Nonetheless here the onus is on you to show supporting evidence (not just unsubstantiated media speculation) that the self-harm was more specifically self-harm directed at suicide. Of course, if you could show that the media have good reason to believe it was a suicide attempt that may do, but I have found nothing in the media to back up speculation that it may have been an attempted suicide. No family reports, no police reports, no medical reports... really nothing at all beyond what O'Farrel is on the record as saying.
 * Therefore, whilst we wait for more information we should use the broader term "self-harm", which can encompases attempted suicide. I have put in place a line to the effect that it suicide is a possibility but this has not been confirmed.
 * Stick the the known facts and not speculation. The article can always be updated to be more specific as more facts come to hand.
 * --Daveb 12:17, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Please read Cite sources and No original research. A Google News search for "john brogden" suicide reveals 190 articles noting that it was a suicide attempt. A Google News search for "john brogden" self-harm returns three articles - all of which still say he attempted suicide. It's not my job to prove that the media were right - we report on the general consensus, rather than trying to establish truth ourselves (that would be original research). I'm afraid you'll have to cite more than your own unsourced contention if you want it in the article - surely if there was any basis one journalist in the country would have reported it? But there isn't even that. Ambi 12:39, 31 August 2005 --129.78.228.114 03:05, 1 September 2005 (UTC)(UTC)
 * The SMH, Age and other newspapers have all reported that he engaged in some form of self-harm; whether or not this was attempted suicide is currently unknown and no newspaper I have read has unequivocally stated that it was (the word "apparently" is the closest they seem to get). --Daveb 12:44, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * In the interests of moving foward, I have changed the text to clarify that it has been widely reported that his self-harm was an attempted suicide, but that this is yet to be officially confirmed. This is hardly original research, rather a review of the current available information: a) The media are reporting it was an attempted suicide (reflected in the article); b) There is yet to be official confirmation of this (reflected in the article). --Daveb 12:52, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I have no issue with that whatsoever. What I took issue with was claiming that it wasn't an attempted suicide. Ambi 13:05, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Read what I wrote: I never said it wasn't an attempted suicide; rather my point was that there was no confirmation that his self-harm was indeed attempted suicide (which is a subset of self-harm) and that as such we should not write as though it was an established fact. --Daveb 13:33, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Would you mind changing the title back when it's confirmed as a suicide? (From 220.238.233.226)
 * I doubt it will be confirmed as a suicide as he is still alive... it can be changed if/when it is ever confirmed to have been an attempted suicide otherwise it covers bases as it is. 129.78.228.114 03:05, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Technical issue
The citation notation next to the O'Farrell quote is just a self-referential link that goes back to the top of the article page. Shouldn't it go directly to the website where it comes from? 23skidoo 04:24, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Removed current event tag
This article isn't really current anymore, nothing in the news for about a week, so I've removed the current event tag -Werdna648 11:14, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Citing references
I'm really quite shocked that despite the stated wikipedia policy for Biographies of Living Persons, (see top of page), the more scandalous matters described in this article are unreferenced. Who says that he said these things at a party? When did the ABC say that he pinched someone's bottom? Who is it claims that he was drug and alcohol affected when he cut his wrists? Who are the "some" that didn't like his policies?

--Amandajm 16:36, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

 * See the references in the reference section. There are no in line citations, as much of the material was written a while ago. However I don't think it's that bad: the sources can simply be read, and matched up to the material in the body of the article. Recurring dreams 22:27, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Somebody just removed all of this stuff, but as it was well-referenced, I added it straight back. cojoco (talk) 23:47, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Patron of Life line
In April 2011, John Brogden was appointed as Patron of Lifeline - press release link http://www.lifeline.org.au/About-Lifeline/Media-Centre/Media-Releases/Media-Release-Files/John-Brogden-new-national-patron-for-Lifeline. I'll add this info to article, but how to add verification ? Is link to this article enough? Sorry I don't know the codes / shortcuts. Ern Malleyscrub (talk) 04:50, 19 November 2011 (UTC) It's kind of there! Sorry, not quite right.Ern Malleyscrub (talk) 04:59, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

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Bucranium

Bucranium (,, referring to the skull of an ox) was a form of carved decoration commonly used in Classical architecture. The name is generally considered to originate with the practice of displaying garlanded, sacrificial oxen, whose heads were displayed on the walls of temples, a practice dating back to the sophisticated Neolithic site of Çatalhöyük in eastern Anatolia, where cattle skulls were overlaid with white plaster.

Etymology and sphere of application
The word "bucranium" (latin bucranium) comes from Ancient Greek: βουκράνιον – being composed of βοῦς (ox) and κρανίον (skull) – and literally means "ox skull". Analogic, the Greek word αἰγικράνιον (latin aegicranium) means a "goat skull", also used as a decorative element in architecture.

The technical term "bucranium" was originally used in the description of classical architecture. Its application to the field of prehistoric archeology is relatively recent and is mainly due to the work of the British archaeologist James Mellaart dedicated to the Neolithic site of Çatalhöyük. In 1977, Glyn Daniel established this new meaning of the term, introducing it into the Illustrated Encyclopedia of Archeology.

Overview
In ancient Rome, bucrania were frequently used as metopes between the triglyphs on the friezes of temples designed with the Doric order of architecture. They were also used in bas-relief or painted decor to adorn marble altars, often draped or decorated with garlands of fruit or flowers, many of which have survived.

A rich and festive Doric order was employed at the Basilica Aemilia on the Roman Forum; enough of it was standing for Giuliano da Sangallo to make a drawing, c 1520, reconstructing the facade (Codex Vaticano Barberiniano Latino 4424); the alternation of the shallow libation dishes called paterae with bucrania in the metopes reinforced the solemn sacrificial theme.

While the presence of bucrania was typically used with the Doric order, the Romans were not strict about this. In a first-century fresco from Boscoreale, protected by the eruption of Mount Vesuvius and now at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, bucrania and cistae mysticae hang on ribbons from pegs that support garlands, evoking joyous fasti. At the Temple of Vesta, Tivoli, designed using the Corinthian order, motifs interpreted by the architect Andrea Palladio as conventional skull bucrania adorn the frieze, although these are actually fleshed ox heads with eyes. Similarly, the Temple of Portunus in Rome, designed using the Ionic order, has bucrania in its frieze.

In later years, the motif was used to embellish buildings of the Renaissance, Baroque, and Neoclassical periods. Garlanded bucrania provide a repetitive motif in the plasterwork of the fine 18th-century Staircase Hall of The Vyne (Hampshire), inside the Pantheon at Stourhead (Wiltshire) and at Lacock Abbey (Wiltshire).

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Whitsunday Island

Whitsunday Island is the largest island in the Whitsunday group of islands located off the coast of Central Queensland, Australia.

History
Whitsunday Island was inhabited by the sea-faring Ngaro people for around 8,000 years prior to British colonisation. Captain Cook named the island while sailing through the area in June 1770.

The first of the logging camps on the island was set up by Eugene Fitzalan in 1861 to exploit the large hoop pine for construction of buildings at the new colonial outpost of Bowen on the mainland. Local Ngaro people laid siege to this camp, preventing work there for two weeks. A Native Police detachment was soon afterwards stationed on the island to protect the loggers.

By the mid-1860s leisure trips to Whitsunday Island from the port of Bowen were being organised by colonists.

In 1878, Captain McIvor of the vessel Louisa Maria was careening his boat on a beach on the western side of the island with some Ngaro people being employed to clean the hull. After these people had heard that some Aboriginal men at Bowen had been killed, they became agitated. They threw the captain into the sea, pelted him with various objects and then speared him in the face. The Ngaro then killed the only other crew-member on board and set fire to the ship, destroying it. Captain McIvor survived and he and the remaining crew were picked up by a nearby vessel and taken to the mainland.

Sub-Inspector George Nowlan of the Native Police, with his Aboriginal troopers and Captain McIvor, subsequently travelled to Whitsunday Island in order "to punish the blacks." Nowlan's party spent a week pursuing the Ngaro across the island, where they "had punishment dealt out to them" and concluded with the expedition "permanently dispersing" the Ngaro. The "policy of dispersal" was associated with the "indiscriminate slaughter of unoffending Aborigines." The Ngaro who survived, fled in canoes to the mainland near Mackay and were further pursued by Inspector Morisset and Sgt Graham and their troopers. A few months later, Captain McIvor was hacked to death by his Chinese cook.

Geography
The island is accessible by boat from the mainland tourist ports of Airlie Beach and Shute Harbour. It contains many popular destinations for both day visitors and overnight sailors, including the magnificent pure-white sands of Whitehaven Beach and Hill Inlet, the secure anchorage of Cid Harbour, and the sheltered waterway of Gulnare Inlet. The island also has six campgrounds. The island covers 27,508 ha in area. Around the northern bays of the island are seagrass beds which support a diverse range of marine life. Unadorned rock-wallabies are found on the island.

The seas here are warm, clear, shallow, nutrient rich and fast moving due to large tidal flows making them well-suited to the growth of fringing coral reefs. Whitehaven Beach on the east coast of the island was rated internationally as the top Eco Friendly Beach in 2010.

The island should not be confused with Pinaki in the Tuamotu group which was named "Whitsunday Island" by Samuel Wallis in 1767.

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I came across the Kolyma article while checking out some facts presented in a Danish newspaper article and was surprised to see that it had been marked as lacking neutrality in view of assertations made about the Kolyma Gulag (without reliable references, etc.). As I believe it is extremely important to ensure that the story of the Gulag is presented properly, I have spent a few hours on this article. The main problem seems to be that the author is not too familiar with Wiki editing. So I have begun to straighten a few things out - in particular correct internal links to the authors cited, additional links to the outside world and some footnoting. It would be great if some of the experts on Russia and Russian (Soviet) history could chip in too. There has been a suggestion that the geographical page on Kolyma should be separated from the article on the Gulag. Sooner or later, I think we should do that but the immediate problem is one of establishing the authenticity of the current write-up. I found it interesting that of all the Kolyma articles in other languages - and there are currently 16 (see http://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolima) - only two (French and Catalan) describe the Gulag. Poland has a special page on this. I look forward to hearing from interested parties.--Ipigott 18:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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Yorton

Yorton is a small village in Shropshire, England, north of the county town of Shrewsbury and south of the town of Wem.

Governance
Yorton is represented in the unitary Shropshire Council and the North Shropshire constituency of the Parliament of the United Kingdom.

Railway
Yorton railway station is located on the Welsh Marches Line between Wem and Shrewsbury. The station is a request stop. The station also serves the nearby larger village of Clive. The station primarily offers services between Shrewsbury and Crewe, stopping at Wem, Prees, Whitchurch, Wrenbury and Nantwich. The station is also served by morning peak services southbound to Wolverhampton, Birmingham New Street and Birmingham International, as well as evening peak services southbound to Hereford, Newport, Cardiff Central, Swansea, Carmarthen and Milford Haven and northbound to Wilmslow, Stockport and Manchester Piccadilly.

Bus
The village is served by the 511 bus route, operated by Arriva Midlands North, which runs between Shrewsbury and Whitchurch via Wem. Some services terminate in Wem and do not continue to Whitchurch.

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Yuki (singer)

Yuki Kuramochi (倉持 有希), known professionally as Yuki (stylized as YUKI), is a Japanese musician and singer-songwriter. She is best known as the lead vocalist for Judy and Mary. She founded Judy and Mary in 1991 and became a solo artist in 2002. She has also been a member of the bands NiNa (1999, with Kate Pierson of the B-52's, bassist Mick Karn of Japan, former members of the Japanese New Wave band the Plastics Masahide Sakuma and Takemi Shima, and session drummer Steven Wolf) and Mean Machine (alongside Chara, 2001).

Biography
Yuki was born Yuki Isoya (磯谷 有希) in Hakodate, Hokkaido. After graduating from Hakodate Otani College, she worked as a beautician. She met Yoshihito Onda who visited Hakodate to make a movie, The Triple Cross. The meeting triggered the formation of Judy and Mary in 1992. After Judy and Mary disbanded, Yuki made her solo debut in 2002. She married Magokoro Brothers frontman Yoichi Kuramochi in September 2000, and gave birth to her first child, a boy, on April 18, 2003. However, the child died from unknown causes (SIDS) on March 17, 2005. She gave birth to a second child on August 29, 2006, and a third child in June 2009.

Band Astro
They perform in her tour or recording.
 * Guitar: Jun Matsue (Spoozys)
 * Drums: Atsushi Matsushita (Zazen Boys)
 * Bass: Hiroharu Kinoshita (ex. L⇔R, curve509)
 * All keyboard instruments: Makoto Minagawa (ex Shiina Ringo)
 * DJ / manipulator: Yohei Tsukasaki

The Urah
They performed in her tour or recording in 2010.
 * All keyboard instruments: Kiyohide Ura (ex Diamond Head)
 * Guitar: Tsuneo Imahori
 * Guitar: Akihito "Akkin" Suzuki (ex. Heart Bazaar, ex Shiina Ringo, ex Kaela Kimura)
 * Bass: Kenji Ueda (ex. The Pillows)
 * Drums: Tsuyoshi Miyagawa

As lead artist
* charted on monthly Chaku-uta Reco-kyō Chart †Japan Hot 100 established February 2008, RIAJ Digital Track Chart established April 2009

DVDs

 * Yuki Videos (ユキビデオ) (March 2, 2005)
 * Sweet Home Rock'n Roll Tour (March 2, 2005)
 * Yuki Live Yuki Tour "Joy", May 20, 2005 at Nippon Budokan (ユキライブ YUKI TOUR "joy" 2005年5月20日 日本武道館) (January 25, 2006)
 * Yuki Videos 2 (ユキビデオ2) (March 19, 2008)
 * Yuki Live "5-star": The Gift Will Suddenly Arrive (May 28, 2008)
 * Yuki concert New Rhythm Tour 2008 (March 4, 2009)

Books

 * Yuki Girly Rock – Yuki biography (1997)
 * Yuki Girly Swing – Yuki autobiography & diary (1997)
 * Yuki Girly Folk – Yuki biography (2000)
 * Yuki Girly Boogie – Yuki autobiography & diary (2000)
 * Yuki Girly Wave – Yuki biography (2004)
 * Yuki Girly Tree – Yuki autobiography & diary (2004)

Movies

 * Mizu no Onna (水の女) – cameo appearance

Radio

 * Yuki: Hello! New World (2017–present)

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NCST

NCST may refer to:

 * National Community Stabilization Trust in the United States
 * National Centre for Software Technology in India, now Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (C-DAC)
 * National College of Science and Technology in the Philippines
 * New Castle School of Trades in the United States
 * National Construction Safety Team in the United States, fielded as needed by NIST
 * National Commission for Scheduled Tribes in India

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