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Talk:The Hardy Boys/Archive 1

Merge book articles
I see that we've started getting articles created for every book (see Category:Hardy Boys). Do we need a very short article on each book? Could we place these plot summaries in the main Hardy Boys article, and make the titles redirect to the sections? Will we ever expand these stubs into useful articles in their own right? Bovlb 16:08, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)

I dont see it as a problem. Even if they remain short articles--and I think that many of the earlier books can be expanded because they have changed so much since the original edition was published--it is better than having an enormously long article with 174 subtopics. Danny 16:13, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Geez, I just took all morning setting those pages up, now you want to get rid of them. Thanks a lot! --FWDixon 18:20, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

To try to sell books thru Amazon.

I didn't mean to disrepect your work, but rather suggest an alternative format. You'll note that I didn't go ahead and just do it, but instead I raised it as a question. Also, the pages were initially created by an anon IP, which made it harder for me to contact you directly. Given the sheer number of books, perhaps one page would be unwieldy, especially if we have more than 200 bytes to say about each one. Bovlb 21:12, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)

I think the current format with a separate listing for each title is the way to go. Hopefully more info will be added to each title. As you point out, if all that info was on 1 page it would soon become unwieldy. --FWDixon 19:18, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sure, so you can have another 58 links to your web site. Get real. This is link spamming and will not be allowed.

Quote at the top?
Should the synopsis of the Hardy Boys' history be a long, direct quote from this page? Is that acceptable, copyright-wise?

Since I'm the copyright holder for that site I think it's OK :) --FWDixon 11:26, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Get real. Everything except the pictures on your site was taken from published books on the Hardys.

 * Do you have any evidence of this? At the minimum you should cite the books you are referring to. --Dan East 12:50, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

Hardy and Hardy Investigations by Tony Carpentieri, 1997, SynSine Press

The Lost Hardys: A Concordance by Robert L. Crawford, SynSine Press

The Bayport Companion by Charles Heffelfinger, self-published

Frank and Joe Turn Blue by Tony Carpentieri, SynSine Pres

Collector's Guide to Hardcover Boys' Series Books by E. Christian Mattson

Need more?
 * Those REFERENCE books (except Matson) along with many others + my own personal research were used to get information for my site. I credited the authors of the reference books on the site. It's known as RESEARCH!

It's known as PLAGIARISM, plain and simple. The research was done by the authors of the reference books listed, NOT YOU. There is NOTHING original on the site. Please, my site has been up for 10 years and is the product of exhaustive research by myself and others and 100s of hours of work on my part. It was the first web site to bring this information to the cyber-community. Why you childishly remove the links to I'll leave for you to explain here.--FWDixon 5 July 2005 15:09 (UTC)

Who do you think you are kidding? All of the information was lifted from loads of reference books on the series. You have nearly 100 links to your web pages from Wikipedia. This is an flagrant abuse of the encyclopedia to sell books via Amazon.

See [] for more discussion on this problem.

Sub Category
Why not create a separate sub-category just for the books? That would allow the articles about the characters to stand out.--Hooperbloob 6 July 2005 05:29 (UTC)

I think the characters and the books are inseperable and that the current format is the way to go. Many of the characters already have their own pages and I'll be adding more as time allows.--FWDixon 6 July 2005 10:20 (UTC)

Links Section
Well I sure hope someone gets this silly dispute settled soon so I can add my site back into the links section, as it appears Bob Finnan (FWDixon) has deleted it from the listings.

By the way, the information on foreign languages at the bottom of the introduction (Sinhala, Afrikaans etc.) came directly from my research. For proof, see my website (www.hardy-boys.com) and an upcoming article (November) in YELLOWBACK LIBRARY, a magazine devoted to series books including the Hardys. As such, I feel that either a direct link to FWDixon's site should be removed, or a link to my site should be added.

- Austin Johnson Webmaster, Hardy-Boys.Com Editor, The Bayport Gazette webzine (bayportgazette.com/bg)

 * You are a fine one to talk about plagiarism - 80% of your site was stolen from my Hardy Boys site (www.hardy-boys.net). You copied my idea for a webzine from the Bayport Times. You have taken images directly from my site and used them on yours.--FWDixon 12:33, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

You are a fine one to talk about plagiarism Finnan. Every word on your site was copied from copyrighted books on the Stratemeyer series. Johnson's webzine is outstanding and his web site unlike yours has completely original content.
 * Yeah, most of the content was originally on my site!--FWDixon 14:23, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, all of it was written and published by others. You are a shameless plagiarist and link spammer.

 * I'm not convinced that this protection has helped anyone reach any sort of compromise. You two should take this to e-mail and off Wikipedia, and if I see anyone DELETING any kind of links, you'll be blocked for 24 hours. Sound good? Mike H (Talking is hot) 16:24, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

 * The problem isn't Austin Johnson, it's a lunatic named RMedford and his various sockpuppets who goes around deleting all the links. I'm convinced that the protection is helping curb him, although he has been on a vandalism spree on other juvenile book sites in the last few days.--FWDixon 17:40, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

The problem is FWDixon who sets up 100+ links on Wiki to a web site created from other people's work and that no one has woken up to the fact that these are redundant and are there to sell books thru Amazon from that site.

I see, though, that the protection has remained on the page. Will this be removed so deleted links can be added once again?

Yes and then they will be deleted until the link spamming is stopped.

More on the link spamming and commercial advertising. Example http://hardyboys.bobfinnan.com/hbpb.htm is just a list of titles that all have links to Amazon. All of the books summaries were copied from Amazon. Every HB Digest title, Casefiles title, Clues Brothers title, Supermysteries title, Ultra Thriller title and so on has a link to Amazon and all summaries were copied from Amazon. Does that tell anyone something?

Yep, tells us you're lying! Here's a link to Amazon's Ultra Thriller page (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671756613/ref=nosim) and not a summary to be seen. Ditto for everything else. BTW, thanks for all the links to my site, I'm sure it will increase readership! :)--FWDixon 14:20, 27 August 2005 (UTC) Oh Really? Lets try a few just on the Undercover Brothers.

Extreme Danger (#1) - 4/05

Finnan: Mission: To find the mastermind behind a possible attack at the Big Air Games. Amazon: Mission: To find the mastermind behind a possible attack at the Big Air Games.

Running On Fumes (#2) - 4/05

Finnan: Mission: Investigate and determine the power behind a possibly dangerous Utopian community with potential plans for criminal activity within the oil industry. Amazon: Mission: Investigate and determine the power behind a possibly dangerous Utopian community with potential plans for criminal activity within the oil industry.

Boardwalk Bust (#3) - 4/05

Finnan: Mission: Investigate and put a halt to the recent rash of jewelry store robberies. Potential danger on the ground and in the air. Amazon: Mission: Investigate and put a halt to the recent rash of jewelry store robberies. Potential danger on the ground and in the air.

OH! You only plagiarized SOME of the summaries?

Why not claim that Amazon plagiarized also, after all the description came from the back cover of the book and falls under the "Fair Use" provisions. But you don't care about that, you are just a pathetic hate-filled loser with no life and an ax to grind. Very sad.--FWDixon 15:01, 27 August 2005 (UTC) LOL. Now you didn't write them. I thought I was a liar? Guess you are huh? So WHAT summaries did you write? What was that MY summaries stuff you were saying to Phillip?

You and I both know I was refering to the summaries on the original series title pages. Being an Amazon associate gives me "fair use" to quote portions of the books you questioned. You really ought to learn what you're talking about before you spew your hatred here.--FWDixon 15:10, 27 August 2005 (UTC) Amazon cannot give you rights to use publisher's book summaries Finnan, any more than Wal Mart or anyone else can. Everything on your pages was copied from all sorts of sources and you know it. If people want more examples I will give them more.

All publishers give the right to quote portions of their books for review and advertising purposes. It's also legal to quote portions of books under the "Fair Use" provisions of the copyright law. But you don't care about that, you're just a sad, obsessed person with no life and a lot of hatred inside. --FWDixon 15:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

A book summary is original writing protected by copyright. Summarizing a book in your own words is not a copyright violation but copying a summary without permission especially for commercial gain IS.

Only one link to each web site should be permitted on the main page. The Bayport Times link should be removed as a link to it exists from the Hardy Boys Unofficial Home Page. 69.205.1.91 18:19, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * We're working to get the Bayport link removed. It requires an administrator since the page is protected. -- Sitearm | Talk 03:39, 2005 August 31 (UTC)

 * Done -- Sitearm | Talk 14:04, 2005 August 31 (UTC)

I've got good timing
I just read through this article for the first time, and noticed a book title that needed to be italicized. Then I noticed the page was locked so I read this discussion. I went back to the main page and lo-and-behold it was unlocked. Good timing for me! If only I had that luck with traffic lights. :)

Notice at the beginning of the article
I do not believe the notice at the beginning of this article is in line with Wikipedia policy. If the information is in Wikipedia then it is understood that it is not copyrighted. So it follows that the notice only serves to indicate authorship, which is not appropriate within Wikipedia.

I recommend a total rewrite of the article, which would not be a big task - excepting the list of book titles, it is only comprised of a handful of paragraphs. http://hardyboys.bobfinnan.com/ could then be listed as a reference. Whether or not that website is 100% original or not (and I am not inferring that it isn't) will no longer be an issue, as this article will no longer be a copy / paste. --Dan East 20:18, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Archive
Previous discussions on this page have been archived
 * Talk:The Hardy Boys/Archive01
 * -- Sitearm | Talk 14:15, 2005 August 31 (UTC)

Retention of external link

 * A consensus has been reached to retain on The Hardy Boys one external link to the Unofficial Nancy Drew Home Page. Discussions are archived here and here. -- Sitearm | Talk 14:18, 2005 August 31 (UTC)

The link to Hardy Boys memoribillia also falls under the concensus of one link per site on main article pages because it is part of The Unofficial Hardy Boys Web Site. 69.205.9.31 18:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Took it out. Thanks! -- Sitearm | Talk 04:27, 2005 September 1 (UTC)

Looks like an additional consensus to keep the word "commercial" in the Bob Finnan link description, as on Nancy Drew. -- Sitearm | Talk 04:50, 2005 September 4 (UTC)

Agree with Sitearm and Dan East. "Commercial" is an accurate description for the Bob Finnan Hardy Boys link as a comparison with the other links will show. A related discussion is taking place at User_talk:Who Solo1 22:33, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Migrating individual pages into one
Is there any support for rolling up all of these one line summaries into just one page?

lots of issues | leave me a message 13:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * You said: these one line summaries.
 * Which "one line summaries" you are referring to? In the The Hardy Boys article? Other? -- Sitearm | Talk 04:02, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * The 59 one line summaries. lots of issues  | leave me a message 05:45, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Ahh... To recap: Suggestion is to take the current 59 separate articles, each with only 2 sentences or so, and combine them into one long page called (something like) "Summary of Hardy Boys book plotlines".
 * Support? lukewarm... is it worth the time to copy and paste 59 times, probably; is it worth the hassle of submitting 59 votes for delete, not so sure.
 * What is your take on this? -- Sitearm | Talk 11:50, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * We don't need to submit a vfd to merge. We could split the work.  I'll do the first 30 if you do the rest?  lots of issues  | leave me a message 21:50, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Plagiarism
The list of "major features" in the Casefiles section is copied word-for-word from my website  (excluding a couple of changes). I'm not really sure what should be done about this... --WillNL 17:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, whatever -- I'll leave it, and tell myself that it was my own contribution... --WillNL 17:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

 * WillNL is correct, I deleted the section copied from: http://www.geocities.com/wroxford/casefiles.html  It is not ok to do this, even with the owner's permission, because text in Wiki needs to be free of copyright restrictions. The solution is for some kind editor to heavily paraphrase, and perhaps improve the Wiki section that was removed. I'm not enough of an expert in the subject to do this. Piano non troppo (talk) 01:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

"Hardy Boys Digests" or "Hardy Boys digests"?
The article repeatedly uses an uppercase D when referring to the "Hardy Boys Digests." This implies that "Hardy Boys Digests" is a proper noun -- the official title of the series (like "Hardy Boys Casefiles"). But "Digests" is not the official title; it's a descriptive term used by collectors. Since it's not actually a title, I don't think we should capitalize the "d" in "Hardy Boys Digests", just as we wouldn't capitalize the "p" in "Hardy Boys paperbacks" or the "b" in "Hardy Boys books". Rather, I think we should probably spell it "Hardy Boys digests". What do people think about this? --WillNL 17:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey why not!!? Smith Jones 18:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * OK by me too.MookiesDad 11:48, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Grades
"The Clues Brothers books were aimed at younger readers, particularly in third and fourth grades." Not to sound stupid, but how old is "third and fourth grades"? Could somebody who knows please replace the wording with specific ages?Fuzzibloke 14:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Internal Links
A number of the internal links for this article (including, but not limited to, pretty much every title link and Frank and Joe) link to the 'wrong' pages...Frank, for instance, links to an Australian author. --Stretch 04:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No mention of the TV show?
If memory serves sometime in the late 90s their was a tv show based on the boys adventures. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.89.187.166 (talk) 08:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

 * You mean this? --CCFreak2K 06:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I have put some info about that series on THe Hardy Boys article. Did some time ago. WHLfan 18:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Casefiles incorrect links
Many (almost everyone) of the working links in section 'Casefiles', link to articles with similar names, but with no relevance to the hardy boys. Someone should suffix all those links with '(Hardy Boys)' 80.162.254.106 18:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Working on it--Entoaggie09 22:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * They all should be fixed, but it is something that needs to be checked up on later. --Entoaggie09 23:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it also happens in the Hardy Boys digests list. for example #179 Passport to Danger links to a Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew super-mystery, not the Hardy boys digest book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.117.4.55 (talk) 00:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Hardy Boys or The Hardy Boys?
Naming convention normally says not to use "The" in the title unless it's an official part of the name, like The Beatles, but I see "Hardy Boys" used a lot of times without "The" in front of it, so I don't think it's an official necessary part of the name. Should we move it? Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 10:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

'The' IS an official part of the name. The only series that dosent have 'the' in it is: Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys SuperMystery series. But in the new series that came out last year they chagnd that to: Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Super Mystery. So 'the' is an official part of the name. WHLfan 18:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

UK DVD?
Removed this:

Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew S1 is out on uk DVD 16TH JULY

It was right below the first paragraph. Someone more knowledgeable than myself on this should re-add it if and where appropriate. Also, you might want to add another line below the first paragraph to even out the spacing (I didn't re-add it myself because I didn't want to spam the edit history). --CCFreak2K 06:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Series in order of year
I noticed that series on this page go in order of date except for the Clues Brothers (1997-2000) which are before the Casefiles (1987-1998). The Crossover section is also out of order.

This is what order it is in now:

3 The (original) Hardy Boys Mystery Stories (1927–1979)

4 The Hardy Boys Mystery Stories ("Digests") (1979–2005)

5 The Clues Brothers (1997–2000)

6 The Hardy Boys Casefiles (1987–1998)

7 The Hardy Boys: Undercover Brothers (2005-Date)

7.1 Undercover Brothers Super Mysterys (2006-Date)

7.2 Undercover Brothers Graphic Novels (2005-Date)

8 Crossovers

8.1 Hardy Boys and Tom Swift Ultra Thriller Series (1992–1993)

8.2 Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys SuperMystery Series (1988–1998)

8.3 Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Super Mystery Series (2007-Date)

8.4 Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Be a Detective Mystery Stories (1984-1985)

This is what order I think it should be in:(Bold shows the sections that should be moved)

3 The (original) Hardy Boys Mystery Stories (1927–1979)

4 The Hardy Boys Mystery Stories ("Digests") (1979–2005)

5 The Hardy Boys Casefiles (1987–1998)

6 The Clues Brothers (1997–2000)

7 The Hardy Boys: Undercover Brothers (2005-Date)

7.1 Undercover Brothers Super Mysterys (2006-Date)

7.2 Undercover Brothers Graphic Novels (2005-Date)

8 Crossovers

8.1 Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Be a Detective Mystery Stories (1984-1985) 8.2 Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys SuperMystery Series (1988–1998)

8.3 Hardy Boys and Tom Swift Ultra Thriller Series (1992–1993)

8.4 Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys Super Mystery Series (2007-Date)

Should this be changed? (WHLfan 16:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)).

 * That makes sense to me. Unless someone can provide any reasoning behind the current order I say change it.  --Dan East 01:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

List of books with dates from List of Hardy Boys Original Titles
Reproducing content from List of Hardy Boys Original Titles which is being deleted for ease of reference, as I note this article doesn't contain the individual dates. Espresso Addict 23:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

This is a list of Hardy Boys Books. Unnumbered: Detective Handbook  1959
 * 1) The Tower Treasure 1927
 * 2) The House on the Cliff  1927
 * 3) The Secret of the Old Mill  1927
 * 4) The Missing Chums  1928
 * 5) Hunting for Hidden Gold  1928
 * 6) The Shore Road Mystery  1928
 * 7) The Secret of the Caves  1929
 * 8) The Mystery of Cabin Island  1929
 * 9) The Great Airport Mystery  1930
 * 10) What Happened at Midnight  1931
 * 11) While the Clock Ticked  1932
 * 12) Footprints under the Window  1933
 * 13) The Mark on the Door  1934
 * 14) The Hidden Harbor Mystery  1935
 * 15) The Sinister Sign Post  1936
 * 16) A Figure in Hiding  1937
 * 17) The Secret Warning  1938
 * 18) The Twisted Claw  1939
 * 19) The Disappearing Floor  1940
 * 20) The Mystery of the Flying Express  1941
 * 21) The Clue of the Broken Blade  1942
 * 22) The Flickering Torch Mystery  1943
 * 23) The Melted Coins  1944
 * 24) The Short-Wave Mystery  1945
 * 25) The Secret Panel  1946
 * 26) The Phantom Freighter  1947
 * 27) The Secret of Skull Mountain  1948
 * 28) The Sign of the Crooked Arrow  1949
 * 29) The Secret of the Lost Tunnel  1950
 * 30) The Wailing Siren Mystery  1951
 * 31) The Secret of Wildcat Swamp  1952
 * 32) The Crisscross Shadow  1953
 * 33) The Yellow Feather Mystery  1954
 * 34) The Hooded Hawk Mystery  1954
 * 35) The Clue in the Embers  1955
 * 36) The Secret of Pirate's Hill  1956
 * 37) The Ghost at Skeleton Rock  1957
 * 38) The Mystery at Devil's Paw  1959
 * 39) The Mystery of the Chinese Junk  1960
 * 40) Mystery of the Desert Giant  1961
 * 41) The Clue of the Screeching Owl  1962
 * 42) The Viking Symbol Mystery  1963
 * 43) The Mystery of the Aztec Warrior  1964
 * 44) The Haunted Fort  1965
 * 45) The Mystery of the Spiral Bridge  1966
 * 46) The Secret Agent on Flight 101  1967
 * 47) Mystery of the Whale Tattoo  1968
 * 48) The Arctic Patrol Mystery  1969
 * 49) The Bombay Boomerang  1970
 * 50) Danger on Vampire Trail  1971
 * 51) The Masked Monkey  1972
 * 52) The Shattered Helmet  1973
 * 53) The Clue of the Hissing Serpent  1974
 * 54) The Mysterious Caravan  1975
 * 55) The Witchmaster's Key  1976
 * 56) The Jungle Pyramid 1977
 * 57) The Firebird Rocket  1978
 * 58) The Sting of the Scorpion  1979

Source for book summaries
I found that someone had been, sadly, copy/pasting material into Wikipedia in violation of copyright - but it identified a resource that can be cited as a reference for such summaries that one *writes oneself*:

Enjoy! --Alvestrand 21:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Noteable and curious
There was a novel where the two visit a war-torn country overseas and in one scene, one of them is forced to fire a machine gun -at- a pursuing group of enemies. Due to circumstances it is not known if anyone is hit. This, of course, causes intense emotional agony. Not only should this book be noted specifically, I'm wondering, personally, which novel it is because I want to re-read it also. -- Lots42 (talk) 19:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Is it a Casefiles novel? - WHLfan (talk) 23:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I know it's not one of the original series, it's a paperback, produced late eighties, as far as I recall. Lots42 (talk) 03:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

This book was called "Revenge of the Desert Phantom" book #84. Books #84 and #85 very much like the Casefiles until the style of writing was changed back to a normal Hardy Boys mystery when Minstrel began publishing the books. In #85, Frank and Joe didn't shoot guns although it was still like a Casefile book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.227.112.41 (talk) 10:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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Character Infobox
I was wondering if someone could make a Infobox for the characters in The Hardy Boys, i tried but im not very good at makeing them.

i was thinking some thing like this:

 * Hardy Boys character
 * [image]
 * Gender:
 * Hometown:
 * Occupation:
 * Relatives:
 * First Appearance:

could someone make something like that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by WHLfan (talk • contribs) 02:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I have know created one you can veiw it here: Template:Hardy Boys Character or here: Frank Hardy (The Hardy Boys). WHLfan (talk) 23:27, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Armada Paperbacks
The numbering of titles published by Armada Paperbacks for the UK (non-American) market is different. Any idea why? RISadler (talk) 12:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

 * No one is quite sure, the Armada numbering (as well as the Collins numbering) seems rather random and it also lead to some strange continuity in the Armada series.

 * -WHLfan (talk) 01:03, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

1959-71 revisions
I recently acquired three books of the series -- #12, #32, #34. I used to own #12 and #25 from around 1971-73, and a bit past that time I acquired #19. My cousin had #8 and #34, and I alternately borrowed and returned them.

When I re-read #12 and #34 upon reacquiring them in the last month, I wasn't sure I noticed any differences in #12, but while reading #34, I did get the feeling of differences, and I became certain of them toward the end of the book. Are there exact years for the rewrite of each book, and was the original withdrawn and become unavailable for reading at those times? I do feel that the #34 as I originally read it was superior.

And are there places on the Internet to download and read the books? I remain interested in reading the 53 books that I've never read, though of course, I prefer versions that don't have racial stereotypes. GBC (talk) 00:47, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

 * It's strange that you didn't notice any difference when reading #12 but did with #34, because the two versions are quite of #12 different, while #34 was only slightly changed. In the original Footprints under the Window published in 1933, Frank and Joe break up a gang smuggling illegal Chinese immigrants. In the revised 1965 version the boys stop a gang from stealing a top-secret instrument to be used for the US space program. Also the original was written by Leslie McFarlane and has 218 pages, while the revised text, by David Gramps, has only 177. And yes, most fans (including myself) consider the originals to be the superior.

 * As for your second question; no, you can not download the books of the Internet. All 58 (plus the revised Detective Handbook) revised original books are still available from Groset & Dunlap. And from 1999 to 2007 Applewood Books re-published the original unrevised books. Applewood planned to publish all 38 unrevised books but only got up to #17. Books 10 to 17, of the Applewood books, are still in print, while the first nine are not. For more information see Publication history of original Hardy Boys series at The Hardy Boys Wiki or ask on SkyWarp's Hardy Boys forum, Mr. Pizza's Forum.
 * WHLfan (talk) 21:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Actually, my original #12 is Huellan refugees, and the replacement is the same in that regard. Apparently, my original was a 1965 revision. But #34 is now, evidently to me, a revision made after my cousin got his #34. GBC (talk) 23:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

How can this be incorporated into the article?
Here's a list from http: slash slash hardyboys dot bobfinnan dot com slash hbos dot htm#top  that gives the issue years of original and revised.

 * 1. 1927, 1959 The Tower Treasure
 * 2. 1927, 1959 The House on the Cliff
 * 3. 1927, 1962 The Secret of the Old Mill
 * 4. 1928, 1962 The Missing Chums
 * 5. 1928, 1963 Hunting for Hidden Gold
 * 6. 1928, 1964 The Shore Road Mystery
 * 7. 1929, 1964 The Secret of the Caves
 * 8. 1929, 1966 The Mystery of Cabin Island
 * 9. 1930, 1965 The Great Airport Mystery
 * 10. 1931, 1967 What Happened at Midnight
 * 11. 1932, 1962 While the Clock Ticked
 * 12. 1933, 1965 Footprints under the Window
 * 13. 1934, 1967 The Mark on the Door
 * 14. 1935, 1961 The Hidden Harbor Mystery
 * 15. 1936, 1968 The Sinister Sign Post
 * 16. 1937, 1965 A Figure in Hiding
 * 17. 1938, 1966 The Secret Warning
 * 18. 1939, 1969 The Twisted Claw
 * 19. 1940, 1964 The Disappearing Floor
 * 20. 1941, 1970 The Mystery of the Flying Express|Mystery of the Flying Express
 * 21. 1942, 1970 The Clue of the Broken Blade
 * 22. 1943, 1971 The Flickering Torch Mystery
 * 23. 1944, 1970 The Melted Coins
 * 24. 1945, 1966 The Short-Wave Mystery
 * 25. 1946, 1969 The Secret Panel
 * 26. 1947, 1970 The Phantom Freighter
 * 27. 1948, 1966 The Secret of Skull Mountain
 * 28. 1949, 1970 The Sign of the Crooked Arrow
 * 29. 1950, 1968 The Secret of the Lost Tunnel
 * 30. 1951, 1968 The Wailing Siren Mystery
 * 31. 1952, 1969 The Secret of Wildcat Swamp
 * 32. 1953, 1969 The Crisscross Shadow
 * 33. 1953, 1971 The Yellow Feather Mystery
 * 34. 1954, 1971 The Hooded Hawk Mystery
 * 35. 1955, 1972 The Clue in the Embers
 * 36. 1956, 1972 The Secret of Pirates' Hill
 * 37. 1957, 1966 The Ghost at Skeleton Rock
 * 38. 1959, 1973 Mystery at Devil's Paw
 * 39. 1960 The Mystery of the Chinese Junk
 * 40. 1961 Mystery of the Desert Giant
 * 41. 1962 The Clue of the Screeching Owl
 * 42. 1963 The Viking Symbol Mystery
 * 43. 1964 The Mystery of the Aztec Warrior
 * 44. 1965 The Haunted Fort
 * 45. 1966 The Mystery of the Spiral Bridge
 * 46. 1967 The Secret Agent on Flight 101
 * 47. 1968 Mystery of the Whale Tattoo
 * 48. 1969 The Arctic Patrol Mystery
 * 49. 1970 The Bombay Boomerang
 * 50. 1971 Danger on Vampire Trail
 * 51. 1972 The Masked Monkey
 * 52. 1973 The Shattered Helmet
 * 53. 1974 The Clue of the Hissing Serpent
 * 54. 1975 The Mysterious Caravan
 * 55. 1976 The Witchmaster's Key
 * 56. 1977 The Jungle Pyramid
 * 57. 1978 The Firebird Rocket
 * 58. 1979 The Sting of the Scorpion

GBC (talk) 02:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I suggest doing it like this:
 * 1. The Tower Treasure (1927, revised 1959)
 * 2. The House on the Cliff (1927, 1959)
 * 3. The Secret of the Old Mill (1927, 1962)

And so on. So basically we keep the same list that is already in the article but with the pub date(s) in. WHLfan (talk) 03:18, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

The Hardy Boys Wiki
I have contributed quite a few Hardy Boys related articles to Wikipedia, but since many Hardy related subjects do not adhere to Wikipedia's guidelines such as What Wikipedia is not and Notability, many articles on such subjects are tagged for deletion. At first I did not quite understand this but I have since come to see why some Wikipedians believe articles such as Mr. Pizza may not have a place on the wiki.

After some thought on the issue I considered a wiki for The Hardy Boys, and nothing else. A place where all and every Hardy related article would be accepted. Having visited Wookieepedia I discovered Wikia, and soon afterwards requested The Hardy Boys Wiki.

The Hardy Boys Wiki has been up and running for over six months now, and we are currently working on nearly 300 articles. So any time a Hardy Boys article does not belong on Wikipedia, you can always write an article on the subject at The Hardy Boys Wiki.

I don't want to sound like a spammer or something trying to get people to a site, but I know from experience that many Wikipedians do not appreciate many of the Hardy Boys articles, which are considered non-relevant to the wiki, and I thought it would be good if users contributing Hardy articles, which are unwelcome on Wikipedia could be directed to The Hardy Boys Wiki.

hardyboys.wikia.com

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Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network

The Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network (SATERN) is a network of volunteer amateur radio operators based in North America. It works to provide emergency communications between Salvation Army posts during times of disaster, and to pass messages with health and welfare information between the Salvation Army and the general public.

In the 1950s, the Salvation Army ran the Salvationist Amateur Radio Operators Fellowship. By 1958, SAROF members were providing help in communications during emergencies. The group continued until 2016.

In the 1980s, several SAROF members discussed how to make this assistance more formal. SATERN was officially founded on June 25, 1988, with its first real test coming three months later during Hurricane Gilbert.

SATERN is open to amateur radio operators of all license classes, and of any (or no) religious faith. SATERN routinely operates on VHF and HF ham bands but may operate any mode on any amateur radio frequency during an event.

During the Northeast blackout of 2003, the group was active in upstate New York as well as the Salvation Army headquarters in Manhattan.

In 2005, SATERN helped during Hurricane Katrina handling over 20,000 health and welfare inquires. Along with Skywarn, Hurricane Watch Net and Waterway net, SATERN provided information to the National Hurricane Center. SATERN also worked with the American Red Cross.

When an F-5 Tornado hit Joplin, Missouri on May 5, 2011, the SATERN units were activated. They provided communications and helped with the distribution of water, ice, personal items, food, and medical care. Food trucks were dispatched to many affected areas to provide meals to victims and emergency workers and law enforcement and assistance was given to victims that would show up. The distribution network also facilitated providing clothing and shelter for many people. The Salvation Army was providing the shelter and in-house eating facilities.

In 2018, Ford donated a customized Transit Van to SATERN in Kansas City, Missouri to use for mobile communications.

In June 2022, SATERN launched an international SSB Net on 14.325 MHz, with Hurricane Watch Net. A second SATERN group (Strategic Auxiliary Team Emergency Readiness Net) will use 14.265 MHz. The two groups are not related.

SATERN has expanded overseas, with operators based in Australia, Bermuda, Southeast Asia, the Caribbean, Central and South America, Europe, the Middle East and New Zealand.

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Sawada

Sawada is a Japanese surname. Notable people with the surname include:

Sports

 * Aki Sawada (born 1988), Japanese figure skater
 * Atsuo Sawada (born 1964), Japanese wrestler
 * Atsushi Sawada (沢田 敦), Japanese alpine skier
 * Bunkichi Sawada (沢田 文吉), Japanese pole vaulter
 * Hiroyuki Sawada (born 1974), former Japanese football player
 * Kazuki Sawada (born 1982), former Japanese football player
 * Keitaro Sawada (沢田 桂太郎), Japanese cyclist
 * Kentaro Sawada (born 1970), former Japanese football player
 * Raymond Sawada (born 1985), Canadian ice hockey player

Arts and entertainment

 * Fujiko Sawada, Japanese novelist
 * Kan Sawada, Japanese composer
 * Kenji Sawada (born 1948), Japanese musician
 * Kenya Sawada (born 1965), Japanese actor
 * Kyōichi Sawada (1936–1970), Japanese photographer
 * Shoko Sawada (born 1962), Japanese singer-songwriter, reporter, and radio personality
 * Shungo Sawada (沢田 駿吾), Japanese jazz guitarist
 * Taiji Sawada, Japanese rock musician
 * Tomonori Sawada, Japanese composer
 * Toshiko Sawada (born 1936), Japanese voice actress

Business

 * Jun Sawada (born 1955), Japanese businessman, CEO of Nippon Telegraph and Telephone

Other

 * Nikki Bridges Flynn ( Sawada; 1923-2003), American civil rights activist
 * Setsuzō Sawada, Japanese diplomat
 * Shigeru Sawada (沢田 茂), Japanese general
 * Shingo Sawada, Japanese shogi player

Fictional characters

 * Captain Sawada, character in the Street Fighter: The Movie videogames
 * Tsuna Sawada, main character of Reborn!
 * Michiko Sawada, a character from anime and manga from Perman

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Inuyasha the Movie: The Castle Beyond the Looking Glass

Inuyasha the Movie: The Castle Beyond the Looking Glass is a 2002 Japanese animated fantasy adventure film based on Inuyasha manga series written and illustrated by Rumiko Takahashi. The film is directed by Toshiya Shinohara, written by Katsuyuki Sumisawa, and produced by Sunrise. It was released in Japan on December 21, 2002.

In the film, Inuyasha and his friends seemingly kill Naraku, and return to their normal lives, only to encounter a new enemy named Kaguya, a character based on the literary classic The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter.

The Castle Beyond the Looking Glass is the second film of the Inuyasha series, following Affection Touching Across Time and followed up by Swords of an Honorable Ruler.

Plot
Half-demon Inuyasha, schoolgirl Kagome, monk Miroku, demon slayer Sango, and fox demon Shippo battle and defeat their archenemy Naraku. As a result, Miroku's Wind Tunnel that Naraku cursed his family with disappears from his hand, while elsewhere, Sango's brother Kohaku is freed from Naraku's grasp as a human puppet. With Naraku apparently defeated, Inuyasha, Kagome and Shippo part ways with Miroku and Sango, while searching for the shards of the Shikon Jewel. Miroku returns to his master, Mushin, and Sango returns to her village and finds the amnesiac Kohaku there. Mushin presents Miroku with a task that is to be given to the surviving descendant of his family who defeats Naraku: to destroy a yōkai who threatens to cast the world into eternal night.

Kagura and Kanna, two of Naraku's incarnations, come across a mirror in a hidden shrine and awaken a maiden who declares herself to be Kaguya, Princess of the Heavens. In exchange for freeing her, Kaguya promises to give Kagura her true heart's desire; freedom. Kagura and Kanna set out to recover five items that will free Kaguya from her mirror completely.

Inuyasha travels to the modern era looking for Kagome, alongside her brother Sota. In town, Kagome angrily hides Inuyasha from the public in a photo booth, which Sota jokingly puts coins into, taking photos of the two as they are arguing. Back in the Feudal era, Kagome takes their faces from one of the photos and places them in a heart-shaped necklace locket that she offers to Inuyasha, who seemingly rejects it. Later, they run into Kagura, Kanna and Kaguya, the former of which rips off a sleeve of Inuyasha's Robe of the Fire-Rat as it is one of the five items. Kagome forces the demons to flee after the battle, with Kaguya noticing the strange aura surrounding her that does not match the time of the Feudal era. Afterwards, Inuyasha, Kagome and Shippo meet Akitoki Hōjō, the ancestor of Kagome's classmate Hōjō, who plans to dispose a celestial robe into Mount Fuji.

Miroku and his tanuki servant Hachi learn, while searching for the yōkai he is meant to destroy, that his grandfather defeated Kaguya, leading to her celestial robe being entrusted to the Hōjō family. With Kaguya and Kanna having found the remaining items, Kaguya goes to find the robe alone, fighting Inuyasha for it. She restrains him to a tree, and Kagome sacrifices herself to protect him from a sacred arrow that Kaguya deflected from her. Kaguya takes Kagome captive, offering to release her alive in exchange for Inuyasha becoming Kaguya's servant.

Kaguya has begun to freeze time into eternal night. Kagura suspects that Kaguya is not who she says she is and tries to attack her, but Kaguya teleports Kagura and Kanna elsewhere. Following his escape, Inuyasha, Hōjo, and Shippo join with Miroku, Hachi, Sango, Kohaku, and Sango's nekomata companion Kirara to infiltrate Kaguya's mountain castle in Lake Motosu. Excluding Hachi and Hōjō, they use items from Kagome's first aid kit from the modern era to survive the time freeze, while Inuyasha remains unaffected having worn Kagome's locket. They battle Kaguya to no avail, and she transforms Inuyasha into a full-fledged demon. A restrained Kagome pleads Inuyasha to stop, but upon being freed by Shippo, she shares a kiss with Inuyasha to revert him back to his normal self; he promises to remain a half-demon longer for her sake.

After Kaguya reveals that she is a demon who absorbed the real Kaguya, Naraku appears, having faked his death by hiding in Kohaku's back, waiting for Kaguya to come out of hiding to absorb her power and gain his own immortality. The heroes defeat Kaguya, before Naraku can absorb her, and she is killed by Miroku's restored Wind Tunnel. Everyone flees the collapsing castle through Kanna's mirror with Naraku taking Kohaku with him. The heroes return to safety with time being reverted to normal. Inuyasha, Kagome, Miroku, Sango, Shippo and Kirara resume their mission to find the Shinkon Jewel shards, and Hōjō discards the robe at Mount Fuji.

Development
The film is produced by the same staff members from the previous film: Toshiya Shinohara directed the film at Sunrise, Katsuyuki Sumisawa wrote the screenplay, Hideyuki Motohashi designed the characters and acted as a chief animation director, and Kaoru Wada composed the music.

Music
The theme song, "Yurayura", is performed by Every Little Thing.

Release
The film was released in Japanese theaters on December 21, 2002.


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Logabirum

Logabirum is a quarter in the city of Leer in East Frisia, Lower Saxony, Germany.

The name
Logabirum was documented for the first time in 1439 as Loghebeerne. Before the spelling of Logabirum was fixed, it had a number of different variations. e.g.

 * On a gravestone plate of 1598, one can recognize an old way of writing: "Loech Beerum".
 * On old maps and documents, Logabirum is also written as "Logeberum," "Logaeberumi" or "Lochberum".

There are also many different ways of interpreting the origins of the name.

One possibility is that "Loghe" or "Loech" comes from German and meant "locality/local/village". "Beerum" or "Berum" means forest, thus "Logabirum" meant village at the forest. After G. Lohse and H. Thomas thought "birum" should be to attributed to the Germanic word "bir" (farmstead). Thus "Berum" would mean "in the yards" and Logabirum "in the yards with Loga".

Another interpretation again comes from that Celtic origins, i.e. "Lo" - height, "ge" - green country, "berum" - "homestead of the bears". Here it is considered that the forest in its current shape was only cultivated by the count house and thus is substantially younger.

History
Logabirum was built on a geest, oriented southwest-northeast. Based on different investigations and urn findings, the oldest traces of habitation around Logabirum date back to before 2000 BC, more specifically in Siebenbergen. There was an old dolmen field, from which only one or two dolmens remain in a small forest.

Landmarks in Logabirum include the church, which was probably built around 1300. Additionally, the only mill in the Leer area can be found in Logabirum. This mill has been in the possession of the Eicklenborg family since its construction in 1895.

In 1973, Logabirum became part of the city of Leer in East Frisia (Lower Saxony). Nevertheless, it retained much of its village atmosphere.

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General Post Office, Brisbane

The General Post Office (abbreviated: GPO) in Brisbane, Queensland, in Australia is a heritage-listed post office located at 261 Queen Street in 1872 and extended through to Elizabeth Street in 1908. It is still in use by Australia Post. Opposite the GPO building is Post Office Square.

History
The first full-time postmaster in Brisbane was J. E. Barney in 1852. In 1862, the first Postmaster-General for the state of Queensland Thomas Lodge Murray Prior was appointed. A small convict era building was used as for postal services but was too far from the telegraph office. The Postmaster-General choose a half hectare site which was centrally located.

The building already located at the Queen Street site which once hosted women convicts was demolished in 1871.

Freestone and bricks were sourced from local materials. The GPO was opened on 28 September 1872. In 1873, the Queensland Museum was housed in the General Post Office building, but moved in 1879 to the William Street building. In the same year a second wing, which was constructed by John Petrie was completed which allowed the telegraph office to move to the building, pleasing business customers.

The building features deep verandahs and high ceilings. A clock mounted in the pediment positioned above the main entrance was once illuminated by a gas powered light. It was replaced by a smaller, electric clock. The first typewriter to be used in any post office in any Australian city was used at the GPO in 1892. Stamps and money orders were once available to customers outside the building via windows are now closed.

The building has been listed on the Brisbane City Council Heritage Register.

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Cindy: The Doll Is Mine

Cindy: The Doll Is Mine is a short film written and directed by French director Bertrand Bonello.

It stars Italian actress Asia Argento in the double role of photographer Cindy Sherman, a brunette, and her model, a blonde who strangely resemble one another.

The film was screened out of competition at the 2005 Cannes Film Festival.

Cast

 * Asia Argento as Cindy Sherman / The model

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Texas Red

Texas Red or sulforhodamine 101 acid chloride is a red fluorescent dye, used in histology for staining cell specimens, for sorting cells with fluorescent-activated cell sorting machines, in fluorescence microscopy applications, and in immunohistochemistry. Texas Red fluoresces at about 615 nm, and the peak of its absorption spectrum is at 589 nm. The powder is dark purple. Solutions can be excited by a dye laser tuned to 595-605 nm, or less efficiently a krypton laser at 567 nm. The absorption extinction coefficient at 596 nm is about 85,000 M−1cm−1.

The compound is usually a mixture of two monosulfonyl chlorides, i.e., as pictured, or with the SO3 and SO2Cl groups exchanged. It can be used as a marker of proteins, with which it easily forms conjugates via the sulfonyl chloride (SO2Cl) group. In water, the sulfonyl chloride group of unreacted Texas Red molecules hydrolyses to sulfonate and the molecule becomes the very water-soluble sulforhodamine 101 which is easy to wash out selectively. This is one of the advantages of conjugating with Texas Red vs. using a rhodamine-isothiocyanate for conjugation.

A protein with the Texas Red chromophore attached can then itself act as a fluorescent labeling agent; an antibody with a fluorescent marker attached will bind to a specific antigen and then show the location of the antigens as shining spots when irradiated. It is relatively bright, and therefore can be used to detect even weakly expressed antigens. Other molecules can be labeled by Texas Red as well, e.g., various toxins. The dye dissolves very well in water as well as other polar solvents, e.g., Dimethylformamide, acetonitrile.

Texas Red, attached to a strand of DNA or RNA, can be used as a molecular beacon for highlighting specific sequences of DNA. Texas Red can be linked with another fluorophore. A tandem conjugate of Texas Red with R-phycoerythrin (PE-Texas Red) is often used.

Fluorophores, like Texas Red, are commonly used in molecular biology techniques like quantitative RT-PCR and cellular assays.

Newer rhodamine derivatives, such as Alexa 594 and DyLight 594, have been tailored to match the excitation and emission spectra of Texas Red and are used in various chemical and biological applications where greater photostability or higher fluorescence intensity are needed.

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Bilin

Bilin may refer to:

 * Bilin, Mon State, a town in Mon State in Myanmar
 * Bilin Township, whose seat is Bilin, Mon State
 * Bilin (biochemistry), a type of biological pigment with a tetrapyrrole structure, for example found in bile
 * Bil'in, a Palestinian village in the West Bank
 * Bilin or Belin (river), a river in Tuva, Russia
 * The Bilen people, an ethnic group which mainly inhabits Eritrea and speaks the Blin language
 * The German name for the Czech town of Bílina

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Talk:Jena

Neonazism in Jena
There is a large article on the German Wikipedia about neonazism and far right presence of Jena. Could someone with some German skills provide us with a translated section, or maybe an article by itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.148.166 (talk) 18:25, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

 * This "large article" you are probably referring to was actually triggered by the existence of the NSU (see National Socialist Underground), those guys all originated in Jena. Reality is, there are far right people active in Jena like in any other German city, but it's size is not particular bigger or smaller compared to other places, just what the NSU did really sticks out. Nevertheless, NSU should be added to the history section. There shouldn't be a separate article for that topic IMO. --94.139.7.28 (talk) 17:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Panorama Image
Why has the image been removed? --Hhielscher 14:16, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

History
Jena was first mentioned in an 1182 document. In the 11th century it was a possession of the lords of Lobdeburg, but in the following century it developed into an independent market town  with laws and magistrates of its own. Economy was based mainly on wine production. In 1286 the Dominicans established in the city, followed by the Cistercians in 1301.

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Article's "Lead"
Can someone explain why (Iéna), the French geographical toponym for Jena, is in the lead of this article. Please don't tell us it's because "Boney" fought a battle nearby. He was Italian and Jena is quite a distance from France. Seriously, what would warrant it on English Wikipedia? Dr. Dan (talk) 22:06, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Boney was a Corsican, not an Italian, actually Dr. Dan. I can find some reliable sources for that if it's needed. And, I understand you might not have been aware of this, but he was the Emperor of .... the French!radek (talk) 06:45, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

 * And I can find some reliable sources that 2+2 equals .... 4, thus Iéna needs to be included in the lead of Jena as both are four letter words. BTW: Greetings, Radek, long time no see. -- Matthead Discuß   16:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Radeksz, can you also find reliable sources that "Iena" belongs in the lead of this article on English Wikipedia? Btw, I knew that Napoleone di Buonaparte was from Corsica. Hopefully you were aware that the Corsican Buonapartes originated from minor Italian nobility, who had come to Corsica in the 16th century. While we're at it, since Catherine II surpressed the Kościuszko Uprising, I suppose we should therefore logically put "Краков" in the lead of Kraków and the other Russian topnyms of the Polish and Lithuanian cities involved in that matter. Are you in? Dr. Dan (talk)

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Killing animals is not something to be depicted on a modern heraldry. We can respect the history and put it on a museum. We shouldn't eternally repeat an animal killing myth and its logo. The neonazis of Jena killed humans, and the Federal Republic of Germany - having no limitations about the coats of arms - teaches people that its ok to kill if an unproven mythology dictates it! Sometimes, when an animal or an enemy attacks you, you have the right to kill them in order to survive; but as a last resort; not as something wished or depicted as a value. If its a depicted value to kill the enemy-beast the beast is us. Kill only as a last resort; but never promote it as a civil insignia or ideal! also in modern heraldic insignia we shouldn't depict ISIS stuff, atheism, christianity or other personal non-secular wordview or metaphysical opinion (atheism is absolute non-secularity, so neither it should become part of regional insignia) - (other regions have christian coat of arms, but 1. we're not all christian, 2. personal beliefs have nothing to do with the modern state, 3. history isn't a reason to stop reasoning causality
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Haw Par Villa

Haw Par Villa is a theme park located along Pasir Panjang Road in Singapore. The park contains over 1,000 statues and 150 giant dioramas depicting scenes from Chinese Literature, folklore, legends, history, and statuary of key Chinese religions, Taoism, Buddhism and Confucianism. During the 1970s and 1980s, the park was a major local attraction; it is estimated that the park then welcomed at least 1 million annual visitors, and is considered as part of Singapore's cultural heritage. As of 2018, under the park's management firm, Journeys Pte Ltd, efforts to revitalise the park are ongoing with the holding of themed events and the planning and construction of ancillary museums.

History
Burmese-Chinese brothers Aw Boon Haw and Aw Boon Par, the developers of Tiger Balm, moved their business from Burma to Singapore in 1926. The site, which is in front of a small hill and faces the Singapore Strait, was deemed suitable based on considerations of feng shui, and was purchased in 1935. On the site, a Har Par Villa was being built for the next two years. The villa was designed by Ho Kwong Yew and was of Art Deco architecture. The villa was bombed by the Japanese during the World War II, and was subsequently occupied by them. After the war ended, the villa was demolished. Between 1937 and his death in 1954 (when the garden was declared public property, and turned into a park), Boon Haw commissioned statues and dioramas in the garden that served to teach traditional Chinese values. In the 1950s and 1960s, before the advent of television and shopping malls, the park was a popular recreational destination for Singaporean families. Many Singaporean adults, in a 1995 survey, reported memories of visiting the park as a child and learning about Chinese folk history and morality. Haw Par Villa 7, Dec 14.jpg stand guard at the entrance

.]]In the 1980s, in a bid to restore Singapore's "oriental mystique", Singapore Tourism Board saw to the redevelopment of the park (along with Chinatown and Little India). In 1986, the International Theme Parks Pte Ltd, announced an investment of $30 million to modernise the themed park. This company was a joint venture formed by Fraser & Neave and Times Publishing, and had invested in the latest animatronics and technology to enhance the attractions in the hope to create an 'oriental Disneyland', a theme park meeting Western technology with Eastern mythology.

In 1988, Singapore Tourism Board took charge of the Tiger Balm Gardens and renamed it "Haw Par Villa Dragon World". The Haw Par in the park's name is based on the Aw brothers' personal names—Haw and Par, which mean "tiger" and "leopard" respectively. The dioramas and statues were restored, while plays, acrobatic displays, and puppet shows were organised and held there. The management imposed entrance fees but the high fees discouraged visitors, so the management incurred a loss of S$31.5 million over 10 years. The park management made a profit during its first year of operations after renovations in 1994, broke even in 1995, but started incurring losses over the next three years and was forced to provide free entries in 1998. In March 2001, the Singapore Tourism Board renamed it "Tiger Balm Gardens". The park is now open every day from 9 am to 10 pm (with last entry at 9:30 pm) and admission is free. The Hell's Museum requires an admission fee of SGD$18 for adults and SGD$10 for children.

Between March 2006 and March 2012, the S$7.8 million Hua Song Museum, which focused on the Chinese diaspora, operated within the park.

In 2014, artists Chun Kai Qun, Chun Kaifeng and Elizabeth Gan, under the curatorial platform Latent Spaces, staged four exhibitions in the theme park's unused spaces. Their first exhibition, Nameless Forms, featured the works by the Chun twins, Darren Tesar, Sai Hua Kuan and collective Yunrubin, which respond to the place's defunct exhibition halls, idle pavilions and the materials that were left behind.

In October 2020, Haw Par Villa was closed for renovations and reopened on 1 July 2021. It was originally to be reopened on 31 March 2021 but was delayed due to park operator, Journeys, needing more time to "further enhance its offerings". Haw Par Villa has been opened since 1 July 2023 after extension restoration works and has welcomed guests internationally ever since.

Attractions
The best-known attraction in Haw Par Villa is the Ten Courts of Hell, which features gruesome depictions of Hell in Chinese mythology and in Buddhism. This attraction used to be set inside a 60-metre-long trail of a Chinese dragon but the dragon has been demolished, so the attraction is now covered by grey stone walls. After closure for renovations in 2020, the attraction was upgraded to be fully air-conditioned and the centerpiece of a 3,800 sqm Hell's Museum complex. While the park reopened in July 2021, the attraction reopened on 28 October.

Other major attractions include dioramas of scenes from Journey to the West, Fengshen Bang, The Twenty-four Filial Exemplars, Legend of the White Snake, Romance of the Three Kingdoms; statues of mythological figures such as the Laughing Buddha and Guanyin, and historical personages such as Jiang Ziya, Su Wu and Lin Zexu; the 12 animals in the Chinese zodiac, and others. There are also monuments dedicated to the Aw brothers and their parents.

In October 2021, the management of Haw Par Villa, Journeys Pte Ltd, launched Hell's Museum - a museum focused on death and the afterlife. Hell's Museum combines education and entertainment. It covers perspectives and insights on death and the afterlife across various religions, cultures, and civilisations – the result of humanity's quest over 300,000 years to seek answers to the big questions in life, questions such as “Where did we come from?” “What happens to us when we die?” and “What is the purpose of our existence?” In August 2023, Hell's Museum and Haw Par Villa was awarded Tripadvisor's Travellers’ Choice Winner. The award is only awarded to the top 10% of Tripadvisor's attractions worldwide.

In addition to the abovementioned attractions within Haw Par Villa, the park is home to Art Journey. Art Journey offers a range of delightful offerings, including ice cream, sandwiches, and a variety of beverages, amplifying the park's experience for visitors. It also provides an opportunity for families to engage in art-related bonding workshops, fostering creativity and enjoyment among visitors of all ages.

Notably, Art Journey serves as a platform for promoting Chinese artistry and culture, aligning with the park's thematic elements. Visitors can explore and purchase souvenirs and keepsakes reflecting the rich artistic heritage of the park, thus adding to the overall experience of their visit.

These additions to Haw Par Villa have been well received by visitors, as it enriches the park's offerings and provides a space for relaxation and appreciation of art within the historical and cultural setting. Both Hell's Museum and Art Journey contributes to the park's efforts in preserving and showcasing heritage, further enhancing the appeal and relevance of Haw Par Villa as a cultural destination.

Contemporary reception and outlook
In a 2014 study which reviewed 25 tourist guidebooks on Singapore, it was found that only the authors of one book chose to cover the park in detail. The study noted low tourist interest on the Internet, and low tourist foot traffic at the park. The study's authors also corroborated online travel reviews that some of the statues were in disrepair, and the park is ill-posed to compete with Singapore's newer tourist attractions. Haw Par Villa is, the authors note, "a treasured past, although one in danger of fading away with newer generations of tourists".

Public transportation
The Circle line station, Haw Par Villa MRT station, located next to it, opened on 8 October 2011 along with the rest of Stage 5 of the Circle line.

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Ingoldsby mention
Not being from the UK, I can't judge this, but is the mention of Pat Ingoldsby here significant? If so, can someone add a mention as to why? If not, can we please delete it. Thanks Jgm 14:18, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * If there is a point it is not clear to me. Seems to come via the Pat Ingoldsby page and this link. I suspect someone googled Ingoldsby and then added info gleaned from the results to wikipedia.

 * Also not explained is the "very wealthy" comment w.r.t. Sale. I remember Sale as being just another part of Manchester, certainly not "very wealthy" but more "ordinary". Now Alderly Edge would be a different thign entirely. What was the autor trying to say here: that DG was born with a silver spoon in his mouth? Calls for an edit by someone who has a clue. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Dead in the Water
I recall Dead in the Water from A New Day At Midnight being a single in some form - perhaps only promotional. Does anyone know anything else about this? --Greg K Nicholson 20:42:06, 2005-08-31 (UTC)

Not sure about the UK, possibly a promotional release. But Dead In The Water was definitely released as a single in the US, where it was a minor hit on the Billboard Hot 100. The record label felt the song was better tailored to the liking of American audiences than Be Mine, which was the equivalent commercial singles chart release in the UK {194.63.116.72 12:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)}

Sale
Being a former resident of Sale I can confirm that housing areas range from mansions to council estates. Wealthy people do live there but for the most part it is an ordinary suburban area. (Pally01 09:59, 21 February 2006 (UTC))

David is from Widnes. I do not understand why this keeps getting changed. He is a WIDNESIAN. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:8F8E:9901:B509:F38C:B323:B101 (talk) 19:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Career
In the section where it discusses David Gray's career, the article credits "This Year's Love" and "Babylon" as his best known songs.

White Ladder; this was a critical and commercial success and included his best-known songs, "This Years Love" and "Babylon".

The author may want to retool this as U.S. audiences, while familiar with the popular "Babylon" would more easily recognize "Please Forgive Me" or "Sail Away" as opposed to "This Year's Love".

Phimu222 16:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Biggest selling Album in Ireland
Thats true i ve seen it in many places including the q review of a new day at midnight Owwmykneecap 15:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Category:Taper-friendly musicians
It says on the page for the category of 'Taper-friendly musicians' that their policy of being accepting towards fans who bootleg concerts must be clearly documented in the article, but I can't see where this is documented. Shouldn't either he be removed from this category or have his status as taper-friendly noted and cited? 81.107.212.148 14:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Album chronologies
I've added chronologies to the necessary articles. Haven't specified the correct genre (I know it's not pop), so feel free to select the one that suits best. - Dudesleeper 05:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

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 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:SNOW  QEDK ( T  ☕  C ) 08:44, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

– Only three David Grays are averaging more than four views a day: the singer, the snooker player and the Hibernian footballer. Excluding the one-off spike yesterday and about three other days, the footballer's traffic was never really anywhere near that of the singer's; whilst the snooker player only received a small jump because of the recent World Snooker Championships. The singer is clearly the primary topic - he's had three UK number-one albums and is also one of only 20 artists in history to have an album sell 3 million copies in the UK.|David_Gray_(footballer,_born_1988)|David_Grayson_(entrepreneur)|David_Gray_(snooker_player)|David_Gray_(ambassador)|David_Gray_(poet)|David_Gray_(murderer)|David_Gray_(footballer,_born_1922)|David_Gray_(cricketer)|David_Gray_(Australian_politician) Unreal7 (talk) 15:35, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * David Gray (musician) → David Gray
 * David Gray → David Gray (disambiguation)
 * Oppose very common name putting one of 15 David Grays in the place of the disambiguation page would simultaneously be a mislink magnet and stop the dab bot working. Never heard of the singer, which doesn't immediately suggest he'd pass both criteria of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, that initial response is confirmed by WP:RS; "David Gray is" test in Google Books weighs to David Gray (poet) if anything. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:56, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, because never having heard of a singer is a perfectly legitimate reason to oppose a requested move... Here's a suggestion, stay away from things you know nothing about/don't care about! BTW, you also opposed my RM of Thinking Out Loud because you claimed you'd never heard of Ed Sheeran - like that reason was ever going to be taken seriously. Can you please stop leaping at the opportunity to oppose EVERY SINGLE MOVE REQUEST I make solely because you don't like primary topics? You'd already opposed this RM within 20 minutes of it being made, and just like every other time you respond with your own made-up nonsensical reasoning. IIO, I am seriously going to report you for repeated vandalism if you keep doing this. Unreal7 (talk) 21:26, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * , Can you please stop leaping at the opportunity to oppose EVERY SINGLE MOVE REQUEST I make solely because you don't like primary topics? You'd already opposed this RM within 20 minutes of it being made, and just like every other time you respond with your own made-up nonsensical reasoning. IIO, I am seriously going to report you for repeated vandalism if you keep doing this. Let me get a view things straight, my new found friend. First, I would avoid making comments about an editor like you did. WP:PA says to Comment on content, not on the contributor–which you have not been doing. I would also suggest taking a Wikibreak if this is upsetting you. IIO's comments are not vandalism. Please read WP:VAND. Need further assistance? Read my Peace while the editing gets HOT! on my user page. I don't want you to get in trouble or mad, but let's comment on content and not contributor, in such a situation as this. Thank you! CookieMonster755 📞 ✉ ✓ 21:44, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I also see that you have made past personal attacks about IIO. I warned you here. If you make personal attacks or comments about IIO again, than I may have to report you. Please, stay cool while editing gets hot. CookieMonster755 📞 ✉ ✓ 21:47, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Oppose - very common name, no PRIMARYTOPIC. GiantSnowman 17:20, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * So are Chris Brown, James Brown, Danny Jones and Michael Jackson. Unreal7 (talk) 21:40, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose – I agree with the opposing arguments expressed above; however 's remark about James Brown gave me pause and steered me briefly towards supporting the move, so I'd like to present another rationale to address this case of a notable artist bearing a particularly common name together with many other people: why treat David Gray differently than James Brown indeed? Well, even in the early days of Wikipedia, David Gray was always a disambiguation page, : the poet, the singer and the snooker player, which shows that our esteemed elders did not spontaneously consider one of those people overwhelmingly more notable than the others. Conversely and  started as articles about the famous entertainers, and it took a few years until their names received  . Even after the disambig was created, Michael Jackson never lost his name (apart from a  which was reverted within a few hours).  was moved back to James Brown  and has stayed there ever since. — JFG talk 14:26, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Far too common a name to have a primary topic unless one is overwhelmingly better known than the others, which is not the case here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:58, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose per above. This David Gray would have to be  the most-sought, most-expected and most-notable person by this name to be the primary topic. Just isn't the case.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  16:28, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. Having a common sounding name does not prevent one from being the primary topic for that name.  Calidum   ¤   18:42, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose Page hits have it for the musician but the google books hits do not indicate encyclopedic primacy for the musician. Coupled with the fact it's a common name I don't think there is much to be gained from the move. Having a a disambiguation page at the main title makes it eaiser to fix erroneous links. Betty Logan (talk) 15:30, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

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= Add more to the musical direction = I notice that in the "musical direction" section, the notes stopped after Life In Slow Motion. DG has had three albums after that, and has used a wide variety of instruments. This can be found in the lyric booklets in the CDs. The only thing I remember is that he definitely used French horns for "Nemesis" on Draw the Line. Also, the "citation needed" after "a technique which differentiates him from many of his peers" seems to be more of an opinion rather than an unbiased observation. There are plenty of people who do the same things DG does. Emily Townsend (talk) 21:26, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

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Formal Aspects of Computing

Formal Aspects of Computing (FAC) is a peer-reviewed Gold Open Access journal published by Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) and BCS (the British Computer Society, the Chartered Institute for IT). The journal is closely associated with Formal Methods Europe.

Origins

A comment from Christopher Strachey inspired the journal:"'Much of the practical work done in computing, both in software and hardware design, could be better because the people who do it need to understand the fundamental design principles of their work clearly. Most abstract mathematical and theoretical work is sterile because it has no point of contact with real computing.'"Strachey called for an end to the artificial and injurious separation of practical and theoretical work in programming.

History of the Journal

Formal Aspects of Computing was founded in 1989 by the BCS in an initiative led by John Cooke, Dan Simpson, and Cliff Jones, all of whom were members of the BCS Formal Aspects of Computing specialist group. Cliff Jones was the founding editor, and Springer was the initial publisher. Cliff Jones was editor-in-chief from 1989 to 2007. Jim Woodcock is the current EIC, having taken over in 2007.

Research Contributions

Formal Aspects of Computing publishes contributions at the junction of theory and practice. The principal aim of FAC is to promote the growth of computing science, show its relation to practice, and stimulate applications of appropriate formalisms to practical problems. One significant challenge is to show how a range of formal models can be related to each other. In particular, the scope of Formal Aspects of Computing includes,

 * Well-founded notations for the description and specification of systems.
 * Methods for verifiable system design.
 * Elucidation of fundamental computational concepts and models.
 * Approaches to fault-tolerant design.
 * Verification tools and theorem proving.
 * State-exploration tools and model checking.
 * Formal semantics for widely used notations and methods.
 * Formal approaches to requirements analysis.

Jim Woodcock is the current editor-in-chief. According to the Journal Citation Reports, the journal has a 2023 impact factor of 1.4.

Other Contributions

The journal welcomes contributions in addition to research papers. These include the following.

 * Special Issues FAC welcomes proposals for special issues from leading members of the formal methods community. Appropriate proposals include:
 * Conferences and Workshops Revised collections of papers.
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 * Obituaries Obituaries usually describe and celebrate the lives of the most successful researchers, in our case, through seminal contributions to formal methods. We also encourage celebrating people who have contributed to our subject in more ordinary ways, such as through innovative teaching, writing textbooks, developing software tools, pursuing outreach and continuing education, and applying our tools and techniques in industry.

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