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User talk:Kayaker

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First welcome on this account
Welcome!

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An earlier welcome
One of several previous welcomes I've received since May 2003, while contributing as User:67.100.123.77. I had just created President's Daily Briefing (back then it looked like this...:
 * Hi. Nice work on President's Daily Briefing.  You should really create an account.  We could definitely use your help.  Thanks again, Meelar 23:07, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

=Topics from 2005=

Greetings
Hi Kayaker. Just flagging with you that I've raised a query about adding photos to Death pages on the talk page. Nothing personal, I just foresee a space problem if that were allowed to be a general policy. Cheers JackofOz 12:40, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I explained myself on Talk:Deaths in 2005, probably to no avail...

Sadr City
That's a damn good find, that image - great work! Sherurcij (talk) (bounties) 01:34, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

A Prairie Home Companion (film)
Hi, just looking for a clarification. It looks like you edited the article on Aug 12 2005 to include a reference to "possible cameo appearances from Sora Takenouchi". Seeing as this is a Japanese children's cartoon character, it doesn't seem to make sense in the context of Garrison Keillor, APHC, Robert Altman, etc. Do you know anything more about this? Thanks. (link to article talk page) --BlueCanoe 19:46, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

=Current events portal=

A Barnstar for You
Keep up the good work. If you need any assistance with the move, I would be glad to help (go ahead, post a comment on my talk page, especially if the border color is yellow or green). I'll try tackling some of the things you outlined on Talk:Current events. joturn e r 22:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for awarding me a barnstar and for your offer of help. I created a to do list for the migration here. "Updating the currentevents-url in quickbar" is a non-urgent update required at some point, something I haven't researched how to do yet. Since you were the founder of the WikiProject Current events you might find it interesting to help with that. Thanks again—Kayaker 22:30, 30 June 2006 (UTC).

 * I'm quite sure an administrator will have to take care of the quickbar change. When the portal becomes ready for its premiere, we could post something on the administrators' noticeboard. Also, take a look at some of the suggestions from the portal's talk page. I don't want to step on your toes, but the current events page is in dire need of a layout change regarding those right and bottom sidebars (the top one looks great). joturn e r 22:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I hadn't confirmed the need for an administrator to do it, but I suspect you're right. With respect to your suggestions at Portal talk:Current events, I think its great that you're anxious to engage in that discussion.  If you've been following along on my proposal to move Current events into the portal namespace, you'll notice that I was anxious to minimize any initial layout and look-and-feel changes to Current events because of its maturity.  I also thought it would complicate things to combine the change I proposed with a broader change to the layout.  Once the dust settles on the move, I look forward to adding my $0.02 about your proposals, and I look forward to any mockups you end up creating to illustrate your ideas.  Thanks— 23:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC).

 * Alright; I'll leave things as-is and just create a mockup in the meantime. joturn e r 23:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Moves to Portalspace
If you decide to ahead with the move now, I think you should move some of the old month articles (e.g. June 2006) to the portal space (e.g. Portal:Current events/June 2006). The same goes with the templates that are only used on the current events portal. joturn e r 00:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Current events Redesign Proposal
I created a mockup for a redesign of the Current events page (or rather its portal). It can be found here. Please post your comments regarding the proposal on its talk page. Thanks in advance. joturn e r 06:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Care to be identified as a portal maintainer?
Since you are the founder of WikiProject Current events, and will be (I have no doubt) a future admin, and as someone with good ideas about improving the layout and organization of the portal, please consider adding yourself as a maintainer of Portal:Current events at Portal/Directory. While I've been a Wikipedian and regular contributor since it has about 100,000 articles, 99% of what I do is done without logging in and therefore outside of the community. All of these reasons as well as your enthusiasm for current events, portals, etc. lead me to hope you'll consider identifying yourself as a maintainer. Kayaker 18:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC).

 * Thanks for the suggestion; I'll add myself to the list. By the way, would you consider moving the portal to People and Society? It doesn't seem to go along well with the other portals in the History section, which relate to (mostly) ancient history. However, current events seem to deal with issues that affect society today. joturn e r 18:54, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Current Events
Thanks for the kudos! Also, thank you for the heads up on the talk page. This is now the third time I forget to fix that after archiving that page. I need a better "check list"! Awolf002 22:12, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Current events/Newsbrowsebar
Specifically where do I nominate a page for inclusion in this template? I believe that July 2006 in video gaming (current events in video games) deserves inclusion. Morgan695 01:51, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Current Events Portal Redesign
Since you were in support of the the redesign of Portal:Current events, but also in support of archivals in the mainspace, I'd like to invite you to look at a a comment I made. joturn e r 01:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Portal:Current events
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Uploaded several images to commons
The following public domain images I uploaded here between 2005-09-06 and 2006-06-28 are now uploaded to the commons. Kayaker (talk) 05:06, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

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Mosman Council

Mosman Council is a local government area on the Lower North Shore of Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.

The mayor of Mosman Council is Cr. Carolyn Corrigan, a representative of the Serving Mosman independent political group since 9 September 2017.

Suburbs and localities in the local government area

 * Mosman

In February 1997, the Government gazetted that they had assigned the suburb of Mosman as the only suburb in the Municipality of Mosman. However, Mosman Council decided that residents should continue to be allowed to use the traditional locality names if they wished.

The municipality also includes, manages and maintains the following localities and locations: • Athol Bay

• Balmoral

• Balmoral Beach

• Beauty Point

• Bradleys Head

• Chinamans Beach

• Chowder Bay

• Chowder Head

• Clifton Gardens

• Cobblers Beach

• Edwards Beach

• Georges Head

• Georges Heights

• Hunters Bay

• Little Sirius Cove

• Long Bay

• Middle Head

• Mosman Bay

• Obelisk Bay

• Parriwi Head

• Pearl Bay

• Quakers Hat Bay

• Rocky Point

• Shell Cove

• Spit Junction

• Taylors Bay

• Taronga Zoo

• The Spit

• Wyargine Point

Demographics
At the, there were 28,329 people in the Mosman local government area, of these 46.0 per cent were male and 54.0 per cent were female. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people made up 0.3 per cent of the population, significantly below the NSW and Australian averages of 3.4 and 3.2 per cent respectively. The median age of people in the Mosman Council area was 45 years, significantly above the national average of 38 years. Children aged 0 – 14 years made up 16.3 per cent of the population and people aged 65 years and over made up 21.8 per cent of the population. Of people in the area aged 15 years and over, 50.2 per cent were married and 11.3 per cent were either divorced or separated.

Population growth in the Mosman local government area between the and the  was 2.99 per cent: in the subsequent five years to the, population growth was 4.64 per cent. At the 2016 census, the population in the Mosman Council area increased by 3.72 per cent. This was lower than the national average rate of total population growth of Australia for the same period, which was 8.8 per cent. The median weekly income for residents within the Mosman Council area in 2021 was nearly double the national average at $2,892 compared to $1,746 nationally.

About 23.1 per cent of residents in the Mosman Council area nominated an affiliation with Catholicism at the 2021 census, compared with the national average of 20.0 per cent. The proportion of residents with no religion was slightly higher than the national average at 40.1% compared to 38.4% nationally. Compared to the national average, at the 2016 census, households in the Mosman local government area had a low proportion (18.6 per cent) where two or more languages are spoken (national average was 22.2 per cent); and a high proportion (77.9 per cent) where English only was spoken at home (national average was 72.7 per cent).

Current composition and election method
Mosman Council comprises seven councillors, including the mayor, for a fixed four-year term of office. The mayor has been directly elected since 2012 while the six other councillors are elected proportionally as one ward. The deputy mayor is elected annually by the councillors. From the 2008 elections to the 2012 elections, the area was divided into three wards (Mosman Bay, Middle Harbour, Balmoral), each electing three councillors and the mayor was elected by the councillors annually. The most recent election was held on 4 December 2021, and the makeup of the council, including the mayor, is as follows:

The current Council, elected in 2021, in order of election, is:

History
Mosman was first incorporated in 1867 as the "Mossmans Ward" of the Municipality of St Leonards, which lasted until 1890 when the boroughs of Victoria, St Leonards and East St Leonards merged to form the Borough of North Sydney, with the Mosman ward renamed as the "Mossman Ward". Following a petition submitted by residents in 1892, on 11 April 1893 the ward's separation as the Borough of Mosman was proclaimed by Lieutenant-Governor Sir Frederick Darley. The first nine-member council was elected on 9 June 1893, with the first mayor, Richard Hayes Harnett Jr., elected on the same day. From 28 December 1906, following the passing of the Local Government Act, 1906, the council was renamed as the "Municipality of Mosman". With the passing of the Local Government Act, 1993, the Municipality of Mosman was legally renamed as Mosman Council and aldermen were renamed councillors.

A 2015 review of local government boundaries by the NSW Government Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal recommended that the Municipality of Mosman merge with adjoining councils. The government considered two proposals. The first proposed a merger of Manly and Mosman Councils and parts of Warringah Council to form a new council with an area of 49 km2 and support a population of approximately 153,000. The alternative, proposed by Warringah Council on 23 February 2016, was for an amalgamation of the Pittwater, Manly and Warringah councils. As a consequence of Warringah's proposal, the New South Wales Minister for Local Government Paul Toole proposed that the North Sydney, Willoughby and Mosman Councils be merged. In July 2017, the Berejiklian government decided to abandon the forced merger of the North Sydney, Willoughby and Mosman local government areas, along with several other proposed forced mergers.

Heritage listings
Mosman Council has a number of heritage-listed sites, including:
 * Balmoral, The Esplanade: Balmoral Bathers Pavilion
 * Georges Head, Chowder Bay Road: Georges Head Fortifications
 * Middle Head, Middle Head Road: Middle Head Fortifications
 * Mosman, Avenue Road: Mosman Bay Sewage Aqueduct
 * Mosman, 1 Avenue Road: Monterey
 * Mosman, 3a Avenue Road: The Barn, Scout Hall
 * Mosman, 114 Belmont Road: Alma House
 * Mosman, Bradleys Head Road (within Sydney Harbour NP): Bradleys Head Fortification Complex
 * Mosman, 34 Bullecourt Avenue: Woolley House
 * Mosman, 42 Cowles Road: 42 Cowles Road, Mosman
 * Mosman, 624-632 Military Road: Boronia House
 * Mosman, 28 Mistral Avenue: 28 Mistral Avenue, Mosman
 * Mosman, 65 Parriwi Road: Igloo House
 * Port Jackson, Bradleys Head: Bradleys Head Light

Sister city
Mosman has twin town status with.

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Omroep NTR

NTR is a Dutch public-service broadcaster, supplying television and radio programming of an informational, educational, and cultural nature to the national public broadcasting system, Nederlandse Publieke Omroep (NPO). NTR was created in 2010, following the merger of the Nederlandse Programma Stichting (NPS) and two educational broadcasters, Televisie Academie (Teleac) and the Radio Volksuniversiteit (RVU). For details of these predecessor organizations, see further below.

Public broadcasting organizations in the Netherlands (that is to say, in the Dutch context, listener and viewer associations) do not have their own stations but are allotted airtime on the three public television and eight public radio networks broadly in relation to the size of their respective memberships. NTR, however, as an independently established statutory body, is not a membership-based organization.

RVU (1931–2010)
RVU, the Radio Volksuniversiteit (People's University Radio), was the longest-lived educational broadcasting organization in the Netherlands. Established in 1930 by the Bond van Nederlandse Volksuniversiteiten (Federation of Dutch People's Universities), it was at first granted airtime by the AVRO and VARA broadcasting associations. A licence to operate independently was obtained on 14 June 1931 and RVU became a public broadcaster in its own right in 1932.

In January 1983 RVU made its first appearance on television, broadcasting a small number of programmes on both Nederland 1 and Nederland 2, before moving to Nederland 3 in 1988.

Its mission was to present informative and educational programmes that would encourage listeners' and viewers' active participation in society.

Teleac and NOT (1963–2010)
An initiative to air educational programming on public television led to the creation of the Television Academy (Teleac) in 1963.

Meanwhile Nederlandse Onderwijs Televisie (NOT) (Netherlands Educational Television) began operations on the 27 June 1962, evolving from the Netherlands Education Film board in The Hague. Its purpose was to supply primary and secondary teachers with educational programmes for use in the classroom. These were made in co-operation with Teleac, RVU, and the NOS, although NOT had no broadcasting licence of its own. That changed in 1988, when the new Media Act established NOT as an independent broadcaster and the new organization, together with its employees, moved from The Hague to Hilversum, taking over full responsibility for the schools programmes formerly produced by the NOS.

Early, tentative steps to merge the educational broadcasters were made in 1996, with Teleac and NOT – organizations which shared the common goal of producing educational programmes – merging to form Teleac/NOT. The combined organization reverted to using the overall name Teleac in September 2009, branding its output as Teleac (for adults), SchoolTV (for 4-18 yrs) and PeuterTV (for babies and toddlers).

A further joint venture was entered upon in 2005 when RVU and Teleac together formed Educom.

NPS (1995–2010)
On 28 April 1994, a new Media Act confirmed that the existing broadcasting associations operating within the public framework were to have their participation the system extended for a further ten years and required them to increase their co-operation with each other. The Act also reinforced the brand identity of the public channels over against that of the individual associations.

A new programming quota was outlined in which the associations were required to produce:
 * 20% cultural output (of which half was to be creative artistic productions)
 * 30% education and information

The NOS, which had produced such programming in addition to its core news output, was to be split in half, and pass those duties on to a newly created public broadcaster. The split was confirmed with the launch of the Nederlandse Programma Stichting (NPS) on 1 January 1995.

Proposed abolition
In mid-2005, Jan Peter Balkenende's second cabinet presented plans to renovate the broadcasting system, including abolition of the NPS by 2007. The proposal was met with fierce resistance from many viewers and listeners, given the dedicated and fairly sizeable audience for the NPS's output. The idea was that other broadcasters would take over the type of programming that the NPS had previously provided.

There was little confidence among viewers, however, that this would actually happen. It was speculated at the time that the real motive for the proposed abolition was that the governing parties (Christian Democrat and liberal conservative) saw the foundation's output as being too left-wing. The plans were in the end withdrawn following the elections of November 2006.

Merger into NTR (2010–present)
On the 1 September 2010, the NPS, Teleac and RVU merged to form a single entity. The NTR name is composed of the first letter of the three formerly separate organizations. The idea behind the merger is one of money being more efficiently distributed amongst fewer broadcasting organizations. The new organization has no members, as per the Dutch public system norm as it is a statutory public service broadcaster and a legal entity inherited from its predecessors.

Its programming focus is now concentrated on news analysis, education, culture, children's education and ethnic minority output.

NTR's on-screen branding consists of their acronym in lower case ("ntr") followed by a colon punctuation mark (":").

Mission
Its mission, as stated from its Business Plan of 2010:

The NTR contributes to a democratic knowledge society by creating informational, cultural and educational programs for the entire audience with the following core values: independent, impartial, objective, reliable, respect for people and their values, and orientation towards a society of active, independent and curious citizens.

Programmes
Some examples of NTR programming:

Television

 * Andere Tijden: a history program (co-production with VPRO).
 * College Tour: an interview show, featuring the most high-profile Dutch and international guests.
 * European Border Breakers Award (2004–2018)
 * Het Klokhuis: a daily documentary show for primary school children.
 * Nieuwsuur: in-depth news analysis (co-production with NOS).
 * Sesamstraat: the Dutch-language version of Sesame Street.
 * Het Sinterklaasjournaal: an annual children's television series targeted at school children which 'reports' the news covering Sinterklaas.

Radio

 * Ekstra Weekend (2006–2013)

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Anton Rogan

Anton Rogan (born 25 March 1966) is a former professional footballer. His playing career included spells at Lisburn Distillery, Celtic, Sunderland, Oxford United, Millwall and Blackpool. Rogan also played 18 times for the Northern Ireland national team between 1987 and 1996.

Career
Rogan was born in Lenadoon, west Belfast, Northern Ireland. In his youth he had played junior football for St Oliver Plunkett FC and Gaelic football for St Paul's. He began his professional career playing for Distillery before achieving his boyhood dream of signing for Celtic in 1986. Rogan made his first-team debut on 3 January 1987 due to Roy Aitken and Paul McGugan being suspended and Pierce O'Leary being injured. It proved to be a successful start for Rogan as Celtic thrashed Hamilton Accies 8–3. He usually played at left full back or occasionally as a left-side centre half. In 1988, he was part of Celtic's Centenary side that won the League and Cup Double.

He transferred to Sunderland in 1991 for two years. He played for Sunderland in the 1992 FA Cup final defeat to Liverpool. The following season, he moved to Oxford United – again for two years. In 1997, he transferred to Millwall and left them for Blackpool in 1999.

The latter part of his career was hampered by hamstring injuries and it was discovered that two broken leg injuries early in his career (initially suffered as a teenager before heading to Celtic) were the root cause of these setbacks.

Anton Rogan's most famous goal was the opener in the 3-0 demolition of city rivals Rangers in 1991, having been a part of the team the previous week that dumped Rangers out of the Scottish Cup. Another of his goals achieved renown for the wrong reasons, when he opened the scoring in the December 1988 World Cup qualifying match in Spain. Rogan's was an own goal, contributing to the hosts' 4–0 victory over Northern Ireland.

Post-career
He now lives in Oxford, with his wife and two sons Liam and Conal, has retired from football. He did, however, make an appearance in central defence for Abingdon Town on 19 July 2008 in Joey Beauchamp's testimonial alongside Ian 'Gudge' Smith against Oxford United. Anton has appeared in numerous testimonials and currently runs a taxi and tour company, Townhouse Executive Travel, with his wife in Woodstock Oxfordshire www.townhousewoodstock.co.uk

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anna Carter

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Woohookitty 06:21, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Anna Carter
Patent non-sense. Probably qualifies for speedy delete. But absurd claim of notability in *old* edit history made me take vfd route rob 11:11, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete, are patently false staments assertions of notability?--nixie 11:14, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Reply: I personally would like a speedy delete, but I was just following what I thought were the rules.  If I was wrong (hope I am) than somebody should just do a speedy delete.  --rob 11:17, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you're perfectly right. However silly or unbelievable, this article does rather clearly assert notability. The CSD criterion text voted on specifically said: "If the assertion is disputed or controversial, it should be taken to VFD instead." See Deletion of vanity articles. / Alarm 11:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete anyway. / Alarm 11:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I think this could have been speedied as some of the claims of notability are potentially libelous giving this page a history of being an attack page--Porturology 12:48, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment: I still want this article deleted as quick as possible, but in the meantime, I made the article be consistent with the single back-link to it.  However, the person (a senator's wife) is not not-notable, and should still be deleted.  --rob 13:37, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete stub about 19th century Senator's wife. No indications that she was notable in her own right. Capitalistroadster 19:07, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete notability is not usually conferred by a wedding ring. -Splash 22:31, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment the current page is completely different from the teen vanity/attack page that was first written. People with more experience can tell me if this is a trick to try to get it through vfd and the restore the attack page--Porturology 01:00, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry I just realised what happened. Deletethe current page--Porturology 01:04, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. --DrTorstenHenning 08:17, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Dong Son

Dong Son may refer to several places in Vietnam, including:

Đông Sơn

 * Đông Sơn District, a rural district of Thanh Hóa Province
 * Đông Sơn, Thanh Hóa City, a ward of Thanh Hóa city
 * Đông Sơn, Bỉm Sơn, a ward of Bỉm Sơn in Thanh Hóa Province
 * Đông Sơn, Hanoi, a commune of Chương Mỹ District
 * Đông Sơn, Haiphong, a commune of Thủy Nguyên District
 * Đông Sơn, Ninh Bình, a commune of Tam Điệp
 * Đông Sơn, Thừa Thiên-Huế, a commune of A Lưới District
 * Đông Sơn, Nghệ An, a commune of Đô Lương District
 * Đông Sơn, Thái Bình, a commune of Đông Hưng District
 * Đông Sơn, Bắc Giang, a commune of Yên Thế District
 * Đông Sơn village, a village in Thanh Hóa city

Đồng Sơn

 * Đồng Sơn, Quảng Bình, a ward of Đồng Hới
 * Đồng Sơn, Bắc Giang, a commune of Bắc Giang city
 * Đồng Sơn, Tiền Giang, a commune of Gò Công Tây District
 * Đồng Sơn, Quảng Ninh, a commune of Hoành Bồ District
 * Đồng Sơn, Nam Định, a commune of Nam Trực District
 * Đồng Sơn, Phú Thọ, a commune of Tân Sơn District

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Would?

"Would?" is a song by Alice in Chains, written by guitarist and vocalist Jerry Cantrell as a tribute to his friend Andrew Wood, lead vocalist of Mother Love Bone, who died in 1990. Cantrell sings the verses of the song, while Layne Staley sings the chorus.

The song first appeared on the soundtrack to the 1992 film Singles—where the members of Alice in Chains make a cameo appearance—and later appeared on the band's second studio album Dirt, also released in 1992. "Would?" was released as a single and peaked at No. 31 on Billboard's Mainstream Rock Tracks chart in 1992, at No. 19 in 1996, and in 2019 the song peaked at No. 15 on the Hot Rock Songs chart after it was featured in the trailer for the season 2 of the Netflix show The Punisher. The song was included on the compilation albums Nothing Safe: Best of the Box (1999), Music Bank (1999), Greatest Hits (2001), and The Essential Alice in Chains (2006). An acoustic version performed on Alice in Chains' MTV Unplugged in 1996 was released in a live album and DVD. In 2009, "Would?" was named the 88th Best Hard Rock Song of All Time by VH1.

Lyrics
The song, written by guitarist/co-vocalist Jerry Cantrell, concerns the late lead singer of Mother Love Bone, Andrew Wood, who died of a heroin overdose in 1990. It was produced, engineered, and mixed by Dave Jerden.

In the liner notes of 1999's Music Bank box set collection, Jerry Cantrell said of the song: "I was thinking a lot about Andrew Wood at the time. We always had a great time when we did hang out, much like Chris Cornell and I do. There was never really a serious moment or conversation, it was all fun. Andy was a hilarious guy, full of life and it was really sad to lose him. But I always hate people who judge the decisions others make. So it was also directed towards people who pass judgments."

Reflecting on the song in a 2017 interview, Cantrell said: "A really significant thing for all of us - was kind of a heavier foreshadowing of some things that would directly affect us and our friends - was the death of Andy Wood. That song was me thinking about him like we all did, and trying to put that down and just kind of write a little ode for him. Because he wasn't there, and everything was taking off... It was a nice thing to be able to use that song, it was very poignant I thought, because we kind of carried him with us."

Release and reception
“Would?” was released as a single on June 7, 1992, coinciding with the release of the movie Singles. The song peaked at number 31 on the Billboard Mainstream Rock Tracks chart. The UK single was released in January 1993 and reached the Top 20 in the UK and the Top 40 in the Netherlands. It is one of the band's best-known songs.

Steve Huey of AllMusic said that the song is "a touch more melancholy than many of the group's best-known rockers" and "one of the band's most fully realized individual moments." James Hunter of Rolling Stone called the song "a Seattle song that in 1999 evokes no grunge nostalgia. It's timeless, one of the most stylish singles of the decade, the work of a band which understands that life gets way out of hand but that first-rate rock recordings can't."

The song was named one of the top tracks of the 1990s by Pitchfork Media in 2010. In 2014, the entertainment magazine Paste ranked the song number three on its list of the 50 Best Grunge Songs.

On January 10, 2019, "Would?" was featured in the trailer for the season 2 of the Marvel/Netflix superhero show The Punisher. Following the release of the trailer, the song peaked at No. 15 on Billboard's Hot Rock Songs chart in the week of January 26, 2019.

Music video
The music video for "Would?" was released in 1992 and was co-directed by Cameron Crowe and Josh Taft. The music video won the award for Best Video from a Film at the 1993 MTV Video Music Awards. The video is available on the home video release Music Bank: The Videos.

Live performances
Alice in Chains performed an acoustic version of "Would?" for its appearance on MTV Unplugged in 1996, and the song was included on the Unplugged live album and home video release. Live performances of the song can also be found on the "Heaven Beside You" single and the live album, Live.

Cover versions
The song was covered by Opeth on their single "Burden", a song from their 2008 album Watershed.

Breaking Benjamin also covered the song in February 2020, with guest vocalist Gavin Rossdale of Bush taking Cantrell's parts.

Metallica and Korn both covered the song at MoPOP's Founders Award fundraiser in December 2020.

In popular culture
The song was featured in the racing video games Burnout Dominator and Burnout Paradise.

In 2011, fictional band Queens of Dogtown covered "Would?" in the fifth episode of the fourth season of television series Californication.

The song was one of the clues about Alice in Chains (along with "Rooster" and "Man in the Box") in an episode of the game show Jeopardy! aired on March 5, 2019.

Personnel

 * Alice in Chains
 * Layne Staley – lead vocals
 * Jerry Cantrell – guitar, co-lead vocals
 * Mike Starr – bass
 * Sean Kinney – drums

 * Production
 * Produced by Alice in Chains and Rick Parashar
 * Engineered by Bryan Carlstrom, assisted by Annette Cisneros and Ulrich Wild
 * Mixed by Dave Jerden, assisted by Annette Cisneros
 * Mastered by Steve Hall and Eddy Schreyer

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Shillelagh, County Wicklow

Shillelagh is a village in County Wicklow, Ireland. It is located in the south of the county, on the R725 regional road from Carlow to Gorey. The River Derry, a tributary of the River Slaney, flows through the village, while the Wicklow Way passes to the north and west.

The village was planned as part of the FitzWilliam estate in the 17th century. In 2016, it had a population of 337.

Sport
Shillelagh has a Gaelic Athletic Association team and a soccer team. The team colours are sky blue and navy. Coollattin Golf Club, an 18-hole parkland course, is located just east of the village.

Railway
The village was once served by Shillelagh Railway station, which opened on 22 May 1865. It was the terminus of the 16.5 mi Shillelagh branch line between Woodenbridge and Tinahely via Aughrim. It closed to passengers and goods traffic on 24 April 1944, and altogether on 20 April 1945. The station building was subsequently converted to a private residence.

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List of United Kingdom MPs: H

This is an incomplete list of past and present Members of Parliament (MPs) of the United Kingdom whose surnames begin with H. The dates in parentheses are the periods for which they were MPs.
 * George Hadfield
 * William Hague
 * Peter Hain
 * Louise Haigh
 * John Halcomb
 * Richard Burdon Haldane, 1st Viscount Haldane
 * Charles Montagu, 1st Earl of Halifax
 * Leslie Hale, Baron Hale
 * Glenvil Hall
 * Sir John Hall (1952–1978)
 * John Hall (1950–1955)
 * Mike Hall
 * Patrick Hall
 * Angus Valdemar Hambro (1910,–1922,1937,–1945)
 * Archie Hamilton
 * Sir David Hamilton
 * Fabian Hamilton
 * James Hamilton, 5th Duke of Abercorn
 * Neil Hamilton
 * Paulette Hamilton
 * Willie Hamilton
 * Philip Hammond
 * Stephen Hammond
 * Sir John Pakington, 1st Baron Hampton
 * Matthew Hancock
 * Mike Hancock
 * Greg Hands
 * Sir Jeremy Hanley
 * Sir David Hanson
 * Lewis Vernon Harcourt, 1st Viscount Harcourt
 * Keir Hardie
 * Harriet Harman
 * Mark Harper
 * Evan Harris
 * Fred Harris
 * John Dove Harris
 * Richard Harris
 * Tom Harris
 * Brian Harrison
 * Sir Harwood Harrison
 * James Harrison
 * David Hartley
 * Ian Harvey
 * John Harvey
 * Sir Nick Harvey
 * Sir George Harvie-Watt
 * Alan Haselhurst
 * Sir Arthur Haselrig
 * Sir Patrick Hastings
 * Somerville Hastings
 * Edward John Littleton, 1st Baron Hatherton
 * Roy Hattersley
 * Sir Christopher Hatton
 * Dai Havard
 * Michael Havers, Baron Havers
 * Thomas Hawkes (1834-1844)
 * Nick Hawkins
 * John Hayes
 * Helene Hayman
 * Helen Hayes
 * Walter Hazell
 * Anthony Head, 1st Viscount Head
 * Sylvia Heal
 * Oliver Heald
 * Cahir Healy
 * Denis Healey
 * John Healey
 * David Heath
 * Edward Heath
 * David Heathcoat-Amory
 * Derick Heathcoat-Amory, 1st Viscount Amory
 * John Hemming
 * Arthur Henderson
 * Doug Henderson
 * Douglas Henderson
 * Ivan Henderson
 * Mark Hendrick
 * Charles Hendry
 * J. W. Henley
 * Stephen Hepburn
 * John Heppell
 * A. P. Herbert
 * Sidney Herbert, 1st Baron Herbert of Lea
 * Aubrey Herbert
 * Nick Herbert
 * Sidney Herbert, 14th Earl of Pembroke
 * Margaret Herbison
 * Sylvia Hermon
 * Michael Heseltine
 * Stephen Hesford
 * Gordon Hewart, 1st Viscount Hewart
 * Patricia Hewitt
 * David Heyes
 * William Unwin Heygate
 * Benjamin Heywood
 * Terence Higgins, Baron Higgins
 * Archibald Hill
 * Keith Hill
 * Meg Hillier
 * Chris Hinchliff
 * David Hinchliffe
 * Mark Hoban
 * John Hobhouse, 1st Baron Broughton
 * Margaret Hodge
 * Sharon Hodgson
 * Kate Hoey
 * Douglas Hogg, 3rd Viscount Hailsham
 * Quintin Hogg, Baron Hailsham of St Marylebone
 * John Holker
 * Henry Holland, 1st Viscount Knutsford
 * Stuart Holland
 * Philip Hollobone
 * Adam Holloway
 * Percy Holman
 * Paul Holmes (2001–2010)
 * Paul Holmes (2019–)
 * John Home Robertson
 * Jimmy Hood
 * Geoff Hoon
 * Phil Hope
 * Kelvin Hopkins
 * John Horam
 * Leslie Hore-Belisha, 1st Baron Hore-Belisha
 * Frank Hornby
 * Robert Stevenson Horne, 1st Viscount Horne
 * Frederick John Horniman
 * Martin Horwood
 * Stewart Hosie
 * John Howard (1955–1964)
 * Michael Howard
 * Alan Howarth
 * David Howarth
 * George Howarth
 * Gerald Howarth
 * Geoffrey Howe
 * David Howell
 * Geraint Howells
 * Kim Howells
 * Lindsay Hoyle
 * Robert Hudson, 1st Viscount Hudson
 * Beverley Hughes
 * Cledwyn Hughes
 * Kevin Hughes
 * Robert Hughes, Baron Hughes of Woodside
 * Robert Gurth Hughes
 * Simon Hughes
 * Thomas Hughes
 * John Hughes-Hallett
 * Chris Huhne
 * Joan Humble
 * John Hume
 * David Hunt
 * George Ward Hunt
 * Jeremy Hunt
 * Mark Hunter
 * Anthony Hurd
 * Douglas Hurd
 * Nick Hurd
 * Patrick Hurley
 * Alan Hurst
 * John Hutton
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Miami Vice (film)

Miami Vice is a 2006 action crime film written, directed, and co-produced by Michael Mann. An adaptation of the 1980s television series of the same name, of which Mann was an executive producer, it stars Colin Farrell as James "Sonny" Crockett and Jamie Foxx as Ricardo "Rico" Tubbs, MDPD detectives who go undercover to fight drug trafficking operations. The ensemble supporting cast includes Gong Li, Naomie Harris, Barry Shabaka Henley, John Ortiz, Luis Tosar, Ciarán Hinds, Elizabeth Rodriguez, John Hawkes, Justin Theroux, Isaach De Bankolé, Eddie Marsan, and Tom Towles.

Foxx brought up the idea of a Miami Vice film to Mann during a party for Ali. This led Mann to revisit the series he co-produced. Like Collateral, which also starred Foxx, most of the film was shot with the Thomson Viper Filmstream Camera, while Super 35 was used for high-speed and underwater shots.

Miami Vice premiered in Los Angeles on July 20, 2006. It was released in North America on July 28, 2006, and in Germany on August 24, 2006. It grossed $164.2 million worldwide on a reported $135 million budget. The film received mixed reviews, with praise for Mann's directing and visual style and criticism for the serious storyline, though in subsequent years, its reputation among critics and filmmakers has grown, with critic Steven Hyden writing in 2016 that the film had become a cult favorite.

Plot
While working an undercover prostitute sting operation in a nightclub to arrest a pimp named Neptune, Miami-Dade Police detectives James "Sonny" Crockett and Ricardo "Rico" Tubbs receive a frantic phone call from their former informant Alonzo Stevens. Stevens reveals that he is leaving town, and, believing his wife Leonetta to be in immediate danger, asks Rico to check on her. Crockett learns that Stevens was working as an informant for the FBI but has been compromised.

Crockett and Tubbs quickly contact the FBI Special Agent in Charge John Fujima and warn him about Stevens' safety. Tracking down Stevens through a vehicle transponder and aerial surveillance, Crockett and Tubbs stop him along I-95. Stevens reveals that a Colombian cartel had become aware that Russian undercovers (now dead) were working with the FBI, and had threatened to murder Leonetta via a C-4 necklace bomb if he did not confess. Rico, learning of Leonetta's death by telephone call, tells Alonzo that he does not have to go home. Hearing this, the grief-stricken Stevens commits suicide by walking in front of an oncoming semi-truck.

En route to the murder scene, Sonny and Rico receive a call from Lt. Martin Castillo and are instructed to stay away. He tells them to meet him downtown, where they are introduced in person to Fujima, head of the Florida Joint Inter-Agency Task Force between the FBI, the DEA, and ICE. Crockett and Tubbs berate Fujima for the errors committed and inquire as to why the MDPD was not involved. Fujima reveals that the Colombian group part of the A.U.C. is highly sophisticated and run by José Yero, initially thought to be the cartel's leader. Fujima enlists Crockett and Tubbs, making them Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force deputies, to lead a deep undercover operation. They continue the investigation by looking into go-fast boats coming from the Caribbean, delivering loads of narcotics from the Colombians. They then coerce their Miami informant contact Nicholas into setting up a meet-and-greet with the cartel.

Posing as highly skilled drug smugglers, Sonny and Rico offer their services to Yero, the cartel's security and intelligence man. After a high-tension meeting, they pass screening and are introduced to Arcángel de Jesús Montoya, transnational drug trafficking kingpin. In the course of their investigation, Crockett and Tubbs learn that the cartel is using the Aryan Brotherhood to distribute drugs, and supply them with state-of-the-art weaponry, which they had used to kill the Russian undercovers. Meanwhile, Crockett tries to gather further evidence from Montoya's financial adviser and lover, Isabella but ends up starting a secret romance with her while on a trip by speedboat to Cuba. At a club, the two dance closely, as observed by Yero. Afterward, Crockett and Isabella discuss the possibility and impossibility of running away together. Tubbs begins to fear for the team's safety with Crockett's fling. Those fears are soon realized as Trudy, the unit's intelligence agent, and Rico's girlfriend, is kidnapped by the Aryan Brotherhood on Yero's order, who never trusted Crockett and Tubbs. The Aryan Brotherhood demanded for Crockett and Tubbs to deliver the cartel's load directly to them. With Lt. Castillo's help due to hearing aircraft noise down the phone and clues given by Trudy, the unit triangulates Trudy's location to a mobile home in a trailer park near an airport. After Tubbs grabs a discarded pizza box from a trash can to have an excuse to knock on the door, pretending to be delivering for Milano's Pizza and perform a rescue. But Trudy is critically injured when a bomb is remotely detonated by Yero, destroying the building, as Tubbs encouraged Trudy to stay put to avoid gunfire. Soon afterward, Yero reveals Isabella's betrayal to Montoya and captures her. In the showdown, Crockett and Tubbs face off against Yero, his men, and the Aryan Brotherhood in a shipyard at the port of Miami.

During the firefight, Crockett begins to call in backup. When Isabella sees his police shield and radio, she realises that he is a cop. Betrayed, Isabella wrestles with Crockett until he subdues her. Tubbs guns down Yero as he attempts to shoot his way to safety. After the gunfight, Crockett takes Isabella to a police safehouse and insists she will have to leave without him. Isabella tells him "time is luck," holding out hope the fling can continue, but he tells her they "have run out of time."

Crockett arranges for Isabella to leave the country and return home to Cuba, thus avoiding arrest. Meanwhile, Tubbs is keeping watch on Trudy in the hospital as she begins to awaken from her coma.

Newly-created characters

 * Gong Li as Isabella
 * Luis Tosar as Arcángel de Jesús Montoya
 * John Ortiz as José Yero
 * Ciarán Hinds as FBI Agent John Fujima
 * Isaach De Bankolé as 'Neptune'
 * John Hawkes as Alonzo Stevens
 * Tom Towles as Coleman
 * Eddie Marsan as Nicholas
 * Mario Ernesto Sánchez as El Tiburon
 * Pasha D. Lychnikoff as Ivan
 * Ana Cristina Oliveira as Bartender
 * Oleg Taktarov as Russian Security

Development
Jamie Foxx brought up the idea of a Miami Vice film to Michael Mann during a party for Ali. This led Mann to revisit the series he helped create.

Like Collateral, which also starred Foxx, most of the film was shot with the Thomson Viper Filmstream Camera, while Super 35 was used for high-speed and underwater shots. Cinematographer Dion Beebe was also Collateral cinematographer.

The suits that Jamie Foxx wore in the film were designed by noted fashion designer Ozwald Boateng. He had worked with Foxx in the past and caught Mann's eye, who then asked him to work on the film. Michael Kaplan was responsible for the costume design overall.

Filming
The film was shot on location in the Caribbean, Uruguay, Paraguay (Ciudad del Este), and South Florida. Uruguay locations included the seaside resort Atlántida standing in for Havana, the old building of the Carrasco International Airport, and the Rambla waterfront avenue and the Old City in Montevideo. The production was characterized as being troubled, marked by a series of delays and conflicts. Seven days of filming were lost to hurricanes Katrina, Rita, and Wilma. The delays led to a budget of what some insiders claimed to be over $150 million, though Universal Pictures says it cost $135 million. Several crew members criticized Mann's decisions during production, which featured sudden script changes, filming in unsafe weather conditions, and choosing locations that "even the police avoid, drafting gang members to work as security". Mann wanted the film to be as realistic as possible, and took Farrell along on what were thought to be real drug busts undertaken by FBI drug squads, though these were later found to have been staged.

Foxx was also characterized as unpleasant to work with. He had won an Academy Award after signing onto the film but before production began, and subsequently called for upgrades in his salary and other compensation. He demanded top billing in the film's credits and was also said to have complained that he was paid less than Farrell; Foxx's salary was raised considerably and Farrell's was cut slightly to address this. Foxx also refused to fly commercially, successfully lobbying Universal to hire a private jet for him. He also objected to filming scenes shot on boats or planes. Eventually, after gunshots were fired on set in the Dominican Republic on October 24, 2005, Foxx left the country and returned to the United States. This forced the production to abandon the script's intended ending, slated to be shot in Paraguay, and revert to a previously discarded one that Mann had written, which was set in Miami. One crew member later opined that the Miami-based ending was the dramatically inferior of the two, though Mann said that he came to prefer it.

Sal Magluta, the drug trafficker identified by Tubbs as running go-fast boats in the film's opening scenes, is in fact one of Miami's real-life reputed "Cocaine Cowboys" and is currently serving a life sentence for money laundering.

The first teaser trailer to appear for the film featured the Linkin Park and Jay-Z song "Numb/Encore". This trailer was attached to the release of King Kong in theaters. For several months before its release, the official web site hosted the first teaser trailer for download as a High-Definition WMV file.

Music
Mann took efforts to distance the film from the television series; this extended to his choices for music, as he declined to use the show's theme song and did not ask series composer Jan Hammer to work on the film's score. Hammer said, "I was completely surprised they didn't have a remake of [the theme]. I think it's a matter of being too cool for school." The musical score was composed by John Murphy, with additional cues by Klaus Badelt, Mark Batson and Tim Motzer.

Phil Collins' famous hit "In the Air Tonight", which was featured in the television series' pilot episode, is featured in the original film as a cover done by Miami-based rock band Nonpoint during the closing credits and on the soundtrack. Mann's "Director's Edit" released on DVD places the song in the film just prior to the climactic gun battle as suggested by members of the production crew during post-production.

 * 1) Nonpoint – "In the Air Tonight"
 * 2) Moby featuring Patti LaBelle – "One of These Mornings"
 * 3) Mogwai – "We're No Here"
 * 4) Nina Simone – "Sinnerman (Felix da Housecat's Heavenly House Mix)"
 * 5) Mogwai – "Auto Rock"
 * 6) Manzanita – "Arranca"
 * 7) India.Arie – "Ready for Love"
 * 8) Goldfrapp – "Strict Machine"
 * 9) Emilio Estefan – "Pennies in My Pocket"
 * 10) King Britt – "New World in My View"
 * 11) Blue Foundation – "Sweep"
 * 12) Moby – "Anthem"
 * 13) Freaky Chakra – "Blacklight Fantasy"
 * 14) John Murphy – "Mercado Nuevo"
 * 15) John Murphy – "Who Are You"
 * 16) King Britt & Tim Motzer – "Ramblas"
 * 17) Klaus Badelt & Mark Batson – "A-500"

The RZA was supposed to contribute to the film's score but dropped out for unknown reasons. Atlanta based producers Organized Noize were brought in to take RZA's place instead.

The music included on the soundtrack has several differences from what was featured in the film:
 * Of the first four songs featured in the film's first sequence in The Mansion nightclub, three are on the soundtrack and Nina Simone's "Sinnerman" is the only song to be featured in its original form. Jay-Z and Linkin Park's "Numb/Encore" is not found on the soundtrack despite being featured in both of the film's trailers and being the first song in the film. Furthermore, the version of Goldfrapp's "Strict Machine" is the We Are Glitter remix of the song, and both it and Freaky Chakra's "Blacklight Fantasy" are edits from Sasha's mix album Fundacion NYC. Neither version appears on the soundtrack.
 * Clips of two Audioslave songs, "Wide Awake" and "Shape of Things to Come", are featured in the film, but the songs do not appear on the soundtrack. This was possibly because the two songs were brand new and were set to be featured on Audioslave's new album Revelations, which had a release date close to the film.
 * The version of Moby's "Anthem" on the soundtrack does not appear in the film. Instead, prominent placement is given to Moby's "Cinematic Version" of the song.
 * King Britt's "New World in My View" is featured in the film but is missing the spoken-word lyrics of Sister Gertrude. The song plays instrumentally in the background at one point in the film.

Box office
Miami Vice opened at No. 1 in the United States, knocking Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest out of the number one position at the box office that weekend, after Pirates led the box office for almost a full month. In its opening weekend, the film grossed over $25.7 million at 3,021 theaters nationwide, with an average gross of $8,515 per theater. The film would go on to earn $63.5 million in Canada and the US. Miami Vice would fare better internationally. The film aired in 77 countries overseas, grossing $100,344,039 in its international run. Overall the film grossed $164 million worldwide against a reported $135 million budget.

Initial critical response
On review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes, Miami Vice holds an approval rating of 47% based on 224 reviews, with an average rating of 5.7/10. The website's critical consensus reads: "Miami Vice is beautifully shot but the lead characters lack the charisma of their TV series counterparts, and the underdeveloped story is well below the standards of Michael Mann's better films." On Metacritic it holds a score of 66 out of 100 based on 37 critics, indicating "generally favorable reviews".

The film received praise from major publications including Rolling Stone, Empire, Variety, Newsweek, New York, The Village Voice, The Boston Globe, Entertainment Weekly, and film critic Richard Roeper on the television program Ebert & Roeper. The New York Times critic Manohla Dargis declared it "glorious entertainment" in her year-end wrap-up and praised its innovative use of digital photography.

The film received negative reviews from The Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times, focusing in part on comparisons with the 1980s series and on the plot.

It was included in the top ten of 2006 by Scott Foundas (LA Weekly) at #7, and by Manohla Dargis at #8. Additionally, in November 2009, the critics of Time Out New York named Miami Vice the 35th best film of the decade, saying:Writer-director Michael Mann brilliantly rethinks the seminal 1980s TV series on which he made his name. The hi-def videography gives a tactile, scorching sense of the characters' surroundings, and Colin Farrell and Gong Li's doomed love affair bears the full tragic brunt of Mann's mesmerizing on-the-fly narrative.

Retrospective reviews
In 2016, critic Steven Hyden wrote that Miami Vice had developed "a burgeoning reputation as a cult favorite, especially among younger critics and filmmakers who consider it a touchstone in their love of movies." Hyden wrote that the focus on "gloomy atmosphere and visual sensation" over plot and dialogue (much of which, he wrote, was "incomprehensible") made the film a visual meditation on "failure and futility" that was "one of the most expensive art films ever made." In Senses of Cinema, French director and critic Jean-Baptiste Thoret praised the film's digital aesthetic, extreme pace, and philosophical undertones; he called Miami Vice "a radical work that does not give up its author's formal and stylistic ambitions" and "an inspired synthesis of impressionism and hyper-realism," and said the film "has also just laid the foundations for a new order of action films."

Director Harmony Korine cited Miami Vice as a major influence on his 2012 film Spring Breakers. "The reason I love [Mann's] movies, and that movie in particular," Korine said, "is I could feel the place. When I watch that film, I don't even pay attention to what they're saying or the storyline. I love the colors, I love the texture."

Miami Vice was named the 95th best action film of all time in a 2014 Time Out poll of film critics, directors, actors and stunt actors.

Cast and crew response
In subsequent years Michael Mann has made it clear that he considers Miami Vice to be the movie that "got away" — in large part because of the hastily revised ending. Speaking with New York magazine on the film's tenth anniversary, the director described his disappointment with the film: "I don't know how I feel about it. I know the ambition behind it, but it didn't fulfill that ambition for me because we couldn't shoot the real ending."

Colin Farrell was also not very fond of the movie: "I didn't like it so much — I thought it was style over substance and I accept a good bit of the responsibility. It was never going to be Lethal Weapon, but I think we missed an opportunity to have a friendship that also had some elements of fun."

Home media
Miami Vice was released to DVD on December 12, 2006. It contained many extra features the theatrical version did not include, as well as an extended cut of the film itself, titled "the Director's Cut, with a running time of 140 minutes. It was one of the first HD DVD/DVD combo discs to be released by Universal Studios and one of the best-selling DVDs of 2006. It debuted in third place (behind Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest and Superman Returns) and managed to sell over a million copies in its first week alone. As of February 11, 2007, Miami Vice had grossed over $36.45 million in rentals.

On August 26, 2008, Universal Studios released the "Unrated Director's Edition" of Miami Vice on Blu-ray. On May 16, 2023, a Wal-Mart exclusive steelbook release of the film by Mill Creek Entertainment was released, containing both the theatrical cut and the unrated director’s cut.

Video game
A third-person shooter video game, Miami Vice: The Game, was released on July 18, 2006, as a tie-in to the film. It was developed by Rebellion Developments and published by Vivendi Universal Games, exclusively for the PlayStation Portable.

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Racially intolerant
I'd like to mention that according to a recent study, Mosman was found to be one of the most racially/culturally intolerant areas of any in New South Wales or Australia or something. Is this appropriate?

Separate page for the Local Government Area
As per discussion at Talk:List of Sydney suburbs, I have created a separate page for the Municipality of Mosman, the Local Government Area. -- Ianblair23 11:15, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Copyrighted Text?
I have reverted the large chunk of text that was added in April along with the chronology of Mosman events. Both looked as if they were cut-and-paste verbatim from another website Steve 05:41, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * And reverted when it was added again verbatim from http://www.mosman.nsw.gov.au/library/history.html Steve 23:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * And again, and again! Steve 00:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Regarding History of Mosman text
Steve, the text as it appears on the our website (http://www.mosman.nsw.gov.au/library/history.html) was written by Librarians at Mosman Library. We are happy for it to appear on this page if the source is acknowledged; e.g. "- from 'History of Mosman', Mosman Library website" (hyperlinked)

 * I am not an expert in these things, but a cut and paste from an external website can only be done when that party explicitly "gives permission" to do so. In this case, I have seen administrators (I am not an admin, not yet anyway) tell the person who is claiming to be the presumed copyright holder to use the "email this user" option in the toolbox to send mail to an administrator from an email address that is associated with the organization which owns copyright to confirm that they really are the owners of the copyright. So I think you should get an account, set the email to your Mosman council email, and then email and administrator to verify that you are the copyright owner and are happy for it to be put on the wikipedia. Regards, ßlηguγΣη  | Have your say!!! - review me 01:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Infobox Update
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 * I've put "council" in as LGA. I do not think "ausborn" and "atsi" are really needed (they're not particularly notable).  SLA is not very interesting, and "federalmember" can be found via the Federal Division. Chovain 22:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Now I'm confused. The info box seems to be for the LGA.  But isn't this page the suburb of Mosman? Chovain 22:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Photos
I restored some of my photos that had been deleted. I went to a lot of effort to take those photos and they can't be found anywhere else on the internet. If editors believe that there are too many photos for the amount of text in the article, then maybe they should try to expand the articles. Have a look at some good examples for other Sydney suburbs eg.Ashfield, New South Wales. J Bar 22:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You need to find photos that are relevant. Not just cos they look good (even though they do look good). Photos in an encyclopedia are for information, not decoration. For example, you "Prince Albert Terrace" has nothing to do with history. It was built in the 90's and I can't see why many of these pics are relevant/notable. You need to describe them and establish notability to the article. Merbabu 22:47, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * If it was inappropriate to have the Middle Head photo in the article then I think the zoo photo is also inappropriate for the very same reason . --User:Adam.J.W.C. (talk) 07:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam.J.W.C. (talk • contribs)

I think you're Middle head photo was entirely appropriate for the article. If we had better photos of Middle Head or the Zoo, then I think they should be used but if we don't then there's nothing wrong with using what's available right now, even if they aren't perfect. J Bar (talk) 21:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree - a picture of the zoo is OK to use, but it should be something a bit more descriptive. Maybe a pic of the iconic entrance building.
 * We need to be careful of what photos we add - we can't just add pics because they are pretty or because we like them. We also need to be careful that we are not forcing our own pics in based on flimsy reasoning - the insignificant Prince Albert terrace is a case in point. There are too many photos, but there are many more important ones that should go before that. --Merbabu (talk) 21:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Deleted Photos
Photos from the Mosman article, which illustrate the landmarks in the article are being deleted. We should be expanding the articles with information and photos, not deleting them. As a guide, I suggest that you take a look at some of the more extensive articles that have been produced for Ashfield, New South Wales and Parramatta, New South Wales. If we had that much information for Mosman, then the photos would not look out of place at all. Maybe editors can do some research and provide more information so that the Mosman article can come up to the standard of other Sydney suburb articles. Please leave the useful photos in there.J Bar (talk) 22:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That they are useful is not at all evident. I note that they are predominantly your photos and your previous justification was that they took you some effort. When you were questioned on the relevance of the Prince Albert terrace pic, for example, you provided a weak original research opinion that they were an example of “sympathetic” development. What does that mean, and how is that (a) encyclopaedic, and (b) relevant to this article’s subject? Or is it simply a way to get your pics onto the web?
 * The idea with images is not to decorate an article, nor is it to create rows and rows of galleries, rather well-chosen and relevant pics are to link specifically with the text of an article. If you don’t have the text, you can’t have the pic. Nor should one create flimsy original research text (as mentioned above) to attempt to justify their inclusion.
 * Adam JWC’s pic of Middle Head was a good example – his original pic was very weak, and didn’t show Middle Head (rather part of its view). His subsequent replacement with a pic of the forts was a great improvement linking back to relevant text. Although the Ashfield article is indeed a much better article than here – a lot more text, for example - it does suffer too from gratuitous placement of pics. “I like it” may be the criteria for inclusion in one’s own website, but not wikipedia.
 * --Merbabu (talk) 22:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * PS, The problem is the excess of pics, not “usefulness”. The conservation shopfront is indeed a highly significant aspect of Mosman and should be illustrated. Rather, than a whole gallery just slapped in, chose one very good example, and place it in the article as an example. It’s not too hard. --Merbabu (talk) 22:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Those are your points of view and not necessarily shared by the majority. You have deleted significant photos of historical landmarks such as the Mosman Town Hall and Anzac Memorial Hall (now used for the Country Road shop) and the shopping centre Bridgepoint which is referenced in the Commercial Area section. From experience with the Sydney suburbs project, I have found that including photos in a Suburb article often triggers other editors to provide relevant information and history on the subjects. For example, someone might find information on the Anzac Memorial Hall and could add that to the article.
 * I have found a reference to the sympathetic contemporary architecture in Military Road (and have added it to the article) in my book on Federation architecture, that specifically looks at Mosman.  J Bar (talk) 23:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, that' not much of an argument - ie, I can quite as easily say that they are also your views and not necessarily that of the majority. But my views are based on established policy for creating wikipedia articles.
 * Could you please provide page numbers - that is standard wikipedia citation techique, and also the excerpt that specifically shows that this building is cited as an example? That it is "sympathetic" is a highly subjective statement, it is also flimsy in that it is more neo-Georgian than Federation - in fact, it looks nothing like the federation architecture. Why not include the numerous other buildings that are not federation style? It's such a minor point it doesn't warrant inclusion, further, it is demonstrably inaccurate. --Merbabu (talk) 02:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not looking for an argument and no longer want to be bullied. I'm sick of justifying every fact and edits to somebody who thinks they are the owner or ruler of a particular article. Delete the whole thing if that is your desire. Ultimately, the article will be the loser and will end up being incomplete, in comparison to other Sydney suburbs. We believe we have compiled some important information and photos, that we want to share with the rest of the world but some people obviously do not share our passion. J Bar (talk) 03:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I completely disgree with your interpretation of this issue ("bullying"? WP:OWN?). Every edit should be justifiable - that's the idea of wikipedia. But, I doubt that you are actually disagreeing with me on this fundamental. On a specific note, are you now saying that you are unable to provide specific page reference? I will have to dig up my copy of that book (from memory though it's a late 80's version). --Merbabu (talk) 03:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I will add the page references when I get a chance. I don't cut and paste information from sources. The point is, the information in the article is referenced from a number of sources and usually involves a rewrite using three or four different sources. If I had to put a 'fact citation' in there for every sentence or part of a sentence, then the reference list would be longer than articles. There's more important things to worry about than arguing over whether a contemporary townhouse development is sympathetisc or not. The fact is that I have three sources that say something along the lines of: 'Attractive modern townhouses rub shoulders with Federation style houses' . J Bar (talk) 04:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You appear to not grasp the difference between architectural writing (which is inherently subjective) and encyclopedic writing (which must be 100% objective). Just because a source (which you are yet to verify) makes a clear POV/subjective statement, does not mean we can repeat it here as fact - or indeed if we should repeat it at all. And you still haven't established that this point or indeed the picture are important. If you cannot do this, then the text needs to be removed. If it is not important as you say, then please tell me why you are consistently reverting it back in. Think quality, not quantity and "I like it" is not a criteria for inclusion. --Merbabu (talk) 04:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

The photos of Bridgepoint, Council Chambers and Anzac Hall are important landmarks and should be reinstated. Although I can see your point about whether the contemporary townhouses are significant, they are nevertheless Mosman landmarks, whether you love them or hate them. I believe most residents would regard these as sympathetic development, especially in comparison to some of the latest offerings. 144.139.155.116 (talk) 12:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Bridgepoint might be important to Mosman, but is it important to an encyclopedia? hmmm. I wouldn't mind it going back in *if* we can chose one photo of the streetscape and tie it into the article, rather than just dump 8 photos in without tie-in to text. How are the terraces landmarks? Do you have a reference to say that residents like them? --Merbabu (talk) 12:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reference that says otherwise? I think you're being way too precious about the subject. It seems like you have taken this on as a personal crusade. I am passionate about heritage conversation but I don't think there is any harm in also featuring new developments in theses articles. We can't pretend that they don't exist. I would actually like to see more of the Federation residential architecture from my suburb featured in this article. 144.139.155.116 (talk) 13:01, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry - what is your point? Are you suggesting I need a reference to remove information, but you don't need one to add? No wonder this article is such poor quality.
 * It's not "precious" at all - I'm just insisting on some quality, but people are insistent on dumbing everything down. Why do we need 6 pictures of the conservation frontage on Military Road? This is wikipedia - not Flickr. If you would like to provide information on the federation architecture, why not research and add it? (although, the terrace is more accurately described as neo-Georgian - it certainly doesn't look very federation). It seems this article is destined to remain lightweight - and you say you want more pics!?!. --Merbabu (talk) 13:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Merbabu re the images and I removed them again. Seriously, JBar, stop edit warring over your own images - it's like spamming. I recommend you allow other otherwise uninvolved and uninvested editors decide if your images should be added to the articles as you quite clearly have a conflict of interest in regard to this issue. Sarah 13:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Is the image "Enigmatic rock carvings at Ashton Park" really necessary, it seems like wasted space when something more worthwhile should be in its place. . --User:Adam.J.W.C. (talk)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam.J.W.C. (talk • contribs) 13:53, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said, there may be a case for either the Council or Bridgepoint - but why are there so many photos of 100m of the shopping strip? I suggest dropping 3 of the 4 current pics, and then maybe there is space for either the council or bridgepoint. --Merbabu (talk) 14:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Or how about one wide shot or panorama to replace the whole lot. (Like this one)--User:Adam.J.W.C. (talk) 23:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam.J.W.C. (talk • contribs)
 * A wide shot of the shopping strip could work. I've seen a wide shot on a magazine from Spit Junction down to Mosman Junction. But then again, one killer *example* shot of is better than 6 shots of shopfronts. Look at the Federation book listed here. It's got one single good shot of the shop front - and its 100 plus pages. Whatever happens, remember this is not an image gallery but an written article that should be complemented by a few *strategic* and relevant pics - but that doesn't mean that every (or even 6) relevant pics should go in - chose one for each point. Remember, it's wikipedia, not flickrpedia. Here are two Feature articles: Indonesia and Australia. There are thousands of times many more potential pics compared to Mosman - yet look at the restraint in pics. They're article's, not galleries. --Merbabu (talk) 23:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If the Mosman article wwas extensive as your Indonesia article then the all the photos would fit in nicely with the relevant sections. That has been my point all along. People should work on expanding the article rather trying hard to delete any contributions. If only all that effort was being put to better use for the sake of the article. J Bar (talk) 11:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Your numerous photos might be all useable if the article was called Built environment of Mosman. Please don't talk about misguided effort when you are the one continually forcing your own photography of a very narrow aspect of the topic - that is not "expanding" the article as you request. --Merbabu (talk) 11:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * J Bar, I agree wholeheartedly - someone should expand the text; perhaps you might like to? However, even with extended text we still don't need all the shop photos. Sarah 11:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Adam, I think that's a good idea. If we can remove some of the current shop strips and replace them with something else, the article would look much better. There are some unused images in the Commons' Mosman cat we could start with: also Mosman on Mayflower. And don't forget we can upload to Commons Flickr images that are licensed as CC-BY and CC-BY-SA. I'd like to see some beach pictures on this article - you guys do realise that this article has no beaches images?! It seems really bizarre that an article for a suburb famous for its beaches and national parks would have no images of either. An outsider skimming through this article would be forgiven for thinking Mosman was just a town of strip shops. :/Sarah 11:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Sarah, Merbabu and all and the expansion of article

 * The pictures on commons look pretty good, I actually started that category and took a few pics for it. Some of the pictures are usable but I think we could do better. When I learn how to use my camera properly I will go back and try again. This time I would probably take a couple of wide shots or panoramas that take in more than just a picture of one house or one building, which I think in some cases is a waste of space in the article. I know I am guilty of adding shonky images and not practicing what I have mentioned above but I am still trying to figure this out. If someone was going to add an image to brighten up the article it would be good to find the nicest place in the area take five or six adjoining images and then stitch them together to form one good shot, I actually took 24 shots for this Image:Harbour bridge stairs.jpg and I think about 3 or 4 for this, Image:Malabar1234.jpg which takes in most of the suburb even though the quality is not all that great.

Also concerning the expansion of the article, I think Mosman has an extensive Military history, most of it related to historical forts and Sydney Harbour defences, especially around WWII. I have created several articles concerning this and some of this text could be rewritten for the Mosman article. All those articles can be found in this template Template:Barracks Batteries Bunkers and Forts in Sydney. Some interesting history as in how they used to line the harbour with mines from Clifton Gardens to blow up enemy subs or ships trying to enter the harbour could be written for this article (information and refs are available in this article), or the extensive tunnel network that exists under Middle Head, Georges Heights and Bradleys Head that link to adjoining historical forts that were built around 1871 or prior could be written for this article. One or the forts built prior to wwii in the area that is not quite visible from the outside is the equivalent to an underground train station, almost like St James but not quite that big, heres a pic Image:Chowderbay-forts0079.JPG and this Image:Chowderbay-forts0042.JPG. The place is about 200 metres long by about 50 metres wide, has about twenty rooms or so, so theres got to be some history here. There are many refs available for this as well, I may look into this in future but would not want it to be a carbon copy of the content that I added into the Sydney Harbour article. --User:Adam.J.W.C. (talk) (talk) 00:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

The fact remains. The article is 'Start' class and will remain so, as long as the intimidation continues on any contributions from any other editors. Adding photos to illustrate landmarks in a suburb article is 'dumbing down'. Please, spare us. It's important to have quality articles but looking down your nose at other contributor's efforts doesn't help. I have failed to see any constructive efforts from you towards improving this article. J Bar (talk) 11:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Those sorts of comments are really unhelpful. There's no need for snarkiness and absurd accusations - everyone is here in good faith trying to find ways to improve the article. I feel you are too emotionally invested in this article. Sarah 11:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have made extensive contributions to almost all Sydney suburb articles. From researching History to building infoboxes, providing important facts and photos of landmarks in each suburb. If I seem passionate it's because I don't want to see all the contributions that people have made lost. I'd rather see improvements made to all these articles rather than having important information deleted because somebody doesn't like the way it looks. I've often found snippets of rough information that has been included in an article, that some might think was inarticulate, but with a bit of research and a rewrite it can be turned into a gem, and a vital part of an article. Every aspect of this article has been criticised and I fear that there will be indiscriminate deletions. J Bar (talk) 12:23, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments
It's always debatable whether various shots are worth having in an article. I asked at AN/I once and was told:"It's really an editorial decision, but generally, pix should be supported by the text."

Personally, I think it's better to leave things in than delete things unnecessarily. I've clashed with editors who are always deleting other people's contributions. We all have to respect the right of other editors to make a contribution, otherwise people will give up if someone comes along and deletes their contributions.

By all means write about the fortifications at Middle Head; don't talk, act. Make a contribution instead of jus talking or, worse, just deleting what other people have done. I was thinking of putting in a shot of the Scottish cairn at Rawson Park, but maybe I'll think twice if someone else might just delete it. It becomes hard to make a contribution if you know that people are constantly coming back to an article and deleting things. It's not worth deleting something unless there's something very wrong with it.

Sardaka (talk) 08:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * When my motivation returns I will write about middle head. Also when adding photos you should also consider if people really want look at the photo. Take for instance the Revesby, New South Wales article, you have a picture of the main road in the info box and then a close up of three very ordinary looking shop fronts in the same street. Nobody wants to see that, those shops are the same kind of structure that you would see in any town or suburb in Australia and they are boring, I also think that noone would really be interested in looking at them. I know and admit that I have done similar things in the past but I am trying to improve on this . --User:Adam.J.W.C. (talk) (talk) 10:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Of course it's an editorial decision, that's why we're discussing it here. You can add pictures to articles but Wikipedia is a serious project, not a file hosting facility and we are under no obligations to use them. If you add them and other editors don't like them, they will remove them and ask you not to add them. If you continue restoring them and edit warring over them you will find yourself blocked for disruptive editing. I might add that Sardaka is the fellow who was adding the most insane volume of images to pages. I was once asked by an editor to look at a NSW article which had become impossible to load properly because Sardaka had added a gallery of 40+ images to it. I mean, you have to show some common sense. If an article has lots of images of shops - don't add more. If you go to a feature article, discuss on the talk page before you start adding images because generally the editors have spent a huge amount of time on FAR discussing images and trying to find the right image:text complement. I think it all comes down to common sense and the basic awareness that we're here to build an encyclopedia, not promote ourselves by spamming content, including images. Sarah 14:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC) PS Frankly, telling a longterm, established editor like Adam who has contributed a great deal to Australian content "don't talk, act. Make a contribution instead of just talking or, worse, just deleting what other people have done," is very offensive and probably not the best way to go about editing in the Australian community here. Sarah 14:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

 * True, I'm the one who put too many images in the Sydney articles -- which I've just been discussing with JBar -- but I've learned my lesson since then and I have created galleries at commons for my shots.

 * Revesby article -- I'm not the one who put the shots in the Revesby article. I've never contributed to it. I've just been saying to JBar that some of the articles have too many shots of shopping strips with nothing significant in them. I agree with that criticism -- and I agree that the Revesby shots are a bore -- but I think we should be careful about deleting things unless there's something definitely wrong with them.

 * Offensive to Adam? Really, that's being a bit oversensitive. What I said was completely harmless. All I was getting at was that he might just as well ahead and write about Middle Head instead of just discussing it. He doesn't need permission to do it. Why are you so hostile (Sarah)? Isn't anyone allowed to disagree with you? Even a little bit? I don't see what I said to justify all the hostility.

Sardaka (talk) 08:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I have been trying to find at least one landmark in every Sydney suburb, so that every Sydney suburb article has at least one photo. I've taken heaps of photos of Sydney landmarks and I've posted photos in suburbs from Cronulla to Warwick Farm, Toongabbie to Maroubra and Mosman to North Rocks. I'm not trying to be funny, but sometimes the shopping centre is the only significant landmark in some of these suburbs, such as Revesby. Even if it is boring, what is the alternative? A photo of a shopping centre is relevant anyway because there is usually some information in the article about Commercial Areas, so it's a perfect illustration. I guess we've established that some people don't like some of my choices but if they know of a better landmark for these suburbs, then by all means take a photo and put it in there. J Bar (talk) 23:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I am sure we can all agree that this is not problem for the MOsman article - rather, too many objects is the problem, and we need to restrain ourselves. The article doesn’t adequately cover these notable items – not even close. But the solution is not to fill the gap with non-notable items (eg, Bridgepoint, Village plaza) simply because we have a photo of them. Anyway, this is an article on a suburb, not just it’s built environment. --Merbabu (talk) 23:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Duplication
After making such a fuss about too many similar photos being used in the article, we now have editors duplicating facts in the article and captions: "Mosman Council has identified the early twentieth century shopping strip along Military Road as a conservation area. The awnings along the street were originally column-supported." Why does this fact appear twice?

I would also like to suggest that editors have another look at WP:OWN. J Bar (talk) 23:35, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * J Bar - you don't see the irony in crying "own" but still fighting tooth and nail to have your own photos in the article even when their relevance is shown to be tenuous, and their number repeated over and over? How does that not fit into WP:OWN? As for the repetition in caption, it's hardly a major issue but I've trimmed it a bit. However, it does show how the pic directly relates to the text – ie, a requirement for any picture in wikipedia that was not done particularly well here before hand. And it was referenced information - another rare thing here. --Merbabu (talk) 23:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You continue to delete and modify all contributions from other editors. WP:OWN. Enough said. J Bar (talk) 01:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to draw attention (again) to my changes, I have trimmed some of the caption you mentioned. I think though it is important to have some specific info explaining the pics' significance, and that means that one sentence is mentioned in the caption and the prose - no big deal. --Merbabu (talk) 03:27, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Can you guys please try to be a bit more constructive? All these ongoing accusations of ownership, bad faith, "making a fuss" and "fighting tooth and nail" are going to deter others from participating. If you have personal problems with one another, please try to see past those personal issues, or perhaps take it to your user talk pages. This is the place to discuss the article, not air dirty laundry. Let's forget about past disagreements, and get back to improving the article. -- Mark Chovain 01:42, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Other editors are trying to be constructive but the edits by all other editors are being constantly reverted. That's the problem. J Bar (talk) 03:21, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

More than just a built environment...
Potentially loads of info here to broaden the presently narrow scope of the article. I will help as I can, but can’t promise much. Too many other real and wiki life commitments at the moment. --Merbabu (talk) 02:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Images in #houses
Could you guys discuss the House images here please, rather than edit warring and taking cheap shots at each other? -- Mark Chovain 05:24, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page not moved. harej 08:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Mosman, New South Wales → Mosman — This article was recently moved to an un-disambiguated name and soon after moved back. The name "Mosman" is unique and does not need disambiguation save for compliance with the guideline at Naming conventions (geographic names). I am not convinced that this guideline enjoys wide support given the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2010/August. Mattinbgn\talk 08:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose there is a perfectly good policy about this, and the redirect is there anyway. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:50, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment And as mentioned above the guideline no longer enjoys anything that could be considered consensus. Is there a reason for keeping an entirely superfluous disambiguation with more weight than "We have always done it that way?" -- Mattinbgn\talk 08:56, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It's called status quo bias. While many people oppose the current guidelines, there was clearly no consensus to change the guidelines, either.  So, what we tend to do here on Wikipedia is favor the status quo -- which in this case, means pre-emptive disambiguation.  Powers T 12:32, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Oppose as per above comments ***Adam*** 12:38, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose Mosman is a surname and "Mosman Park" (2x) and "Mossman" are placenames around Australia - I haven't even checked internationally. A disambig page would, by my count, feature at least 9 entries. Even without the guideline, this is a poor candidate for de-disambiguating. Orderinchaos 00:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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Richard Vincent Bertollini, also known as Vince Bert, (born 1939) is an American former business executive, anti-semite and white supremacist who gained notoriety for providing financial support to Richard Butler, the founder of the Aryan Nations.

Bertollini, along with a close friend and former business partner, Carl Story (b. 1936), was notorious for running the Sandpoint, Idaho-based 11th Hour Remnant Messenger, a Christian Identity ministry which worked closely with Butler's group and often mailed its racist pamphlets to area neighborhoods.

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Talk:Mosman Council

Separate page for the Local Government Area
As per discussion at Talk:List of Sydney suburbs, I have created a separate page for the Municipality of Mosman, the Local Government Area. -- Ianblair23 11:16, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

suburb list
I have changed the list of suburbs from the DLG site, because JPD 09:00, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * these lists are at best lists of suburbs and localities. The case of Mosman in particular is interesting - accord to the GNB, the municipality contains exactly one suburb, Mosman
 * Many of the names on the list were not even localities, simply beaches or points (or military installations!).

Cleaning suburbs in LGAs to remove redlinks
Hi, Can people who know or care about this LGA please have a look at this message and see if they can please help solve any redlinks in the "suburbs in this LGA" section of this page? (Usually solution is either to adding a stub about the suburb / locality in question, or to remove it from the LGA's list). -- All the best, Nickj (t) 04:11, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Population growth contradiction
The article says that the population growth to y/e 30/6/2006 made this LGA the 76th fastest growing, and then it states that it is the 97th fastest. --David Broadfoot (talk) 15:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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