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You song
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Expulsion of Germans / Warsaw
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Civility
The tone of this edit is quite uncivil. If you would like to retain editing privileges on this site I suggest you familiarize yourself with our behavior policies. Thanks. --Chris (talk) 23:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It wasn't me who connected the discussion unnecessarily with "right wing organizations". And if he act the fool, he shouldn't be wondered about answers like this. Maybe you should send your request to the originator. Thanks. --Jonny84 (talk) 00:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Armorial of the Holy Roman Empire
About this edit. Sorry but they Upper Silesia had other dukes. See Duchy of Bytom or Duchy of Opole. You can also look at the gallery commons:Upper Silesian Eagle. JDavid (talk) 00:39, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Revert in templete
Hi. In call of this edit. I've given an actual flags of Silesia, and your image is unVerifiable file, and mostly old symbol. So the answer is simple, we shoulde give actual flags. What's the problem? JDavid (talk) 10:39, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * And that's the point: You simply did not insert a flag of Silesia. - You inserted flags of the Lower Silesian Voivodeship, the Opole Voivodeship, the Silesian Voivodeship and the Moravian-Silesian Region. Please stop with these misleading changes. --Jonny84 (talk) 19:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If that's the point, so why You have put flag of the Provinz Schliesen? If it really is. It's not a sole silesian flag. You don't have a monopoly for the region. Please remeber that Silesia Province and Silesia are completely different notion. JDavid (talk) 22:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Silesia Province was identical with Silesia. Province was only the name of its administration. --Jonny84 (talk) 22:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * What? With Cieszyn and Opava (Cieszyn Silesia and Opava Silesia)? And what with County Glatz? Western part of the province was always Lusatia. Was taken to the Silesia Province as punishment on Saxony for supporting Napoleon. Read the history mate. Please find some source about binding force of white-yellow flag, and then we can talk. JDavid (talk) 22:32, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If that fact escaped you: Teschen and Troppau became part of Austrian Silesia in 18th century. Which had its own administration, capital and symbols, and was independent from Silesia. --12:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

 * I made also a question for you on commons:User_talk:Jonny84. JDavid (talk) 22:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

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Silesians
Hello Johny. At the moment, I've left the Silesians article per your edit. As it was only a part-revert, I am happy to keep it like that whilst we discuss the situation. Firstly, I see from your user page background that you yourself may be a very example of the type of person that my edit practically denied the existence of. That may be down to me not knowing very much beyond the Slavo-centric basics. You see, I originate from ex-Yugoslavia (Bosnia-Herz) and to those of us with some basic knowledge, "śląski" is primarily related to southern Poland though I know that people declaring themselves Silesian are also part of the local population of the Slovak and Czech Republics. But then the plot thickens. Within Poland, locals are split on whether they declare Silesian or Polish, and if Polish do they still believe in Silesian self-determination or other (this is a similar question to Montenegrins vs Montenegrin Serbs with which I am more familiar). Either way, whether Czech, Slovak or Polish, it seems the entire population embraces the local region. As such, I see this extends to non-Slavic people and as you rightly say, Silesian Germans are a prominent example. I've read in the past suggestions that "related" categories should be abolished and I actually support this due to the never-ending complications and disagreements over where to draw the line. The Silesians article is comprehensive and therefore examines the region, who lives there and so on. This gives the place a sense of regionalism akin to Switzerland with its various language zones. With this, we can do several things. This ranges from modifying the section to say "Slavic Silesians/Germanic Silesians, bla bla", or we could remove the section altogether (as well as various other things). Can I have your thoughts on this one? Thanks. --OJ (talk) 11:26, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Hala Ludowa
Hi Johnny,

While the photo is not one I think fit for reference on Wikipedia, please take a look at this. I think it will help you see something more than a circle.

https://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/1080113/258240512/stock-photo-the-dome-of-hala-stulecia-centennial-hall-also-known-as-hala-ludowa-people-s-hall-in-wroclaw-258240512.jpg

Note that this history is rather well known in Poland. I am going to have a good friend of mine who is first language polish have a look to see if there is an appropriate polish reference as well. Even if not in english, a second source that could be google translated might help people with this particular piece of history.

Regards,

Maurice MQuinn (talk) 23:45, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

 * Provide sources, you know how it works on Wikipedia.. --Jonny84 (talk) 20:53, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Johnny,

Unquestionably I should have provided a source immediately. Frankly I am glad you challenged me; it was a rushed edit and the discussion has improved the article.

I am, however, quite curious: Do you see the shape in the building now? I was impressed with the Architectural inclusion. That says something for a Structural Engineer, lol.

Take care, see you around the web,

Maurice — Preceding unsigned comment added by MQuinn (talk • contribs) 12:00, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --E-960 (talk) 16:57, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Please note, there is no country called "Kresy", especially not in English. The country's names you were looking for are: Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic (!) --Jonny84 (talk) 17:32, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Jedlice
Jonny84, I would ask that you refrain from additions that have a strong POV character, for one this location has more about it's history than the German period, after all the name Jedlitze is a Germanized version of the original Slavic place name... kind of like Leipzig or Berlin for that matter. Also, you wrote in the article "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" however as noted in the article itself this name is disputed: "Hermann Weisert has argued in a study on imperial titulature that, despite the claims of many textbooks, the name "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" never had an official status and points out that documents were thirty times as likely to omit the national suffix as include it." So, again you are driving a very particular POV on to this and other articles, and promoting disputed facts and controversial facts. Also, what makes you statements very questionable that even within the HRE, the region was part of the Kingdom of Bohemia and Hungry, again facts that shoot down the idea that these were some eternal German lands, and the population was still mixed until the end of the 18th century. --E-960 (talk) 22:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Pls consider, verifiability does not guarantee inclusion WP:ONUS. --E-960 (talk) 22:52, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Jedlitze was founded by Prussian King Frederick the Great in his lifetime, it's dubious it's a slavic foundation or Germanized version, as this village didn't existed before.. I#m sorry to upset you with historic facts and not supporting your gut feeling. --Jonny84 (talk) 22:55, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I have reverted the information out as undue, and started a discussion on the talk page. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 23:32, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Advice you are free to delete
Jonny84 please just slow down and take a breath. Wikipedia is a cooperative editing environment, and that means discussing issues with people you may not agree with. But we all need to try and remain civil, especially when we are most angered. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 00:38, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Editing privileges revoked
Your editing privileges have been revoked, for the reasons given on the Noticeboard. You can ask people for them back on this page, but such requests are unlikely to succeed if you continue to show that you do not know the difference. Uncle G (talk) 03:58, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Special:Permalink/1082789570
 * @Uncle G Blocking me for an expiration time of indefinite is clearly an abuse of your admin rights, just mentioning.. Especially as I didn't edited any article in the last hours... --Jonny84 (talk) 04:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

This is not a "time out". This is preventing future damage to the encyclopaedia by someone who does not recognize what is and is not vandalism in others and who does not recognize vandalism when xe does it xyrself. I add that requests for restoration of editing privileges along the lines of Special:Diff/1082788219 are unlikely to succeed, too. Uncle G (talk) 04:38, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Uncle G 1) Oh.. I'm a user here since 17 years (!), do you really want to claim, that you have to block me permament to prevent Wikipedia?! (Doesn't make much sense) This is just a personal abuse by you. Users usually get blocked only for a few hours, even for worse things. So Wikipedia have to be prevented from users who are expanding articles with verified informations? Seriously? 2) You blocked me after contributing to articles with sources (just to remind it: Encyclopedic content must be verifiable through citations to reliable sources), which were reverted with dubious arguments (there was nothing wrong or false in this edits).. That gives a very bad image, especially to Wikipedia.. I'm feeling very mistreatded here.. 3) This could be considered as a provocation and an offense (!) to me by you.. Instead of de-escalating.. This don't look like a good move by an admin.. I'm hoping you will show consideration to that by your own.. ;) --Jonny84 (talk) 06:28, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I am an administrator and I endorse this block. Any editor who adds utter garbage like to this encyclopedia has voluntarily given up their right to edit this encyclopedia. That edit is shockingly bad and incomprehensible to me. Cullen328 (talk) 06:48, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Uncle G @Cullen328 But this and all the others, isn't shocking you? Right? Another user was calling it personal bias.. This was an expanding of a stub article with good intention and it just got reverted, because I didn't mention 10th century Poland in an 18th century established village (!) callin it undue.. Nobody cares about this POV-pushing.. That is seriously nonsense.. --Jonny84 (talk) 10:50, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Your behavior and attempts to exact some kind of revenge for perceived slights are out of bounds. I endorse the indefinite block. You will not be unblocked without a clear repudiation on your part of your recent behavior. As long as you blame everybody else for your troubles, you will not be unblocked.  Acroterion   (talk)   10:57, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Acroterion This was 1 (One !) edit, which wasn't repeated by me another time, how could you claim, that my behaviour is out of bonds?
 * I'm asking another time relating to this edit by E-960.. How could a 18th century established village belong to Piast Poland and the Bohemian Crown, if it doesn't existed in that time? That is garbage. That's like saying, that Washington D.C. belonged to the Native Americans in 12th century.. I'm trying to describe the correct history in an article and now you are saying me, that I'm not interested in sensible and serious contributing to Wikipedia? That is out of bonds. --Jonny84 (talk) 11:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Address your own behavior, both the vandalism and the lengthy and time-wasting attempts to argue with everybody else and to blame them for your troubles. That ANI thread does you no credit at all. If you are just here to treat Wikipedia as a battleground, you will remain blocked.  Acroterion   (talk)   11:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm asking you all @Uncle G @Cullen328 @Acroterion, how this bias, which started it all, seems to be not a problem or why this behaviour is ignored? I'm expecting a serious answer. --Jonny84 (talk) 11:32, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It has been all explained to you already Jonny84. Please revisit -  GizzyCatBella  🍁  11:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh this arguments included a lot of false statements, so I think I haven't to agree on that, as I'm interested into a Wikipedia with reliable sourced informations. Even starting the history only with Poland smells a bit like pov-pushing of communist propaganda, which claimed Old Piast lands.. How about Moravia? --Jonny84 (talk) 11:53, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * This edit by me was reverted with the question, where the place is to find in the source, while it's clearly included in the source. And I'm the one who is making trouble? --Jonny84 (talk) 11:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Revertings
@Uncle G @Cullen328 @Acroterion I'm starting it again from new.. As an user, who is interested in a good development of Wikipedia and articles with reliable sources (Assume good faith), I'm asking clearly what was the problem in this edit and why it got deleted? Even the corrected German place name was revoked.. I'm seriously interested in solutions.

Also I'm suggesting to bring it into WikiProject History, for a further audience.

If there will be no answer, I will have to assume, that the admins are not interested in any solutions or a future development of Wikipedia with reliable content or preventing it from harms like unsourced claimings. --Jonny84 (talk) 12:35, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

 * Edit s (with an S) Jonny84 --> here and here  here, here , here , here  etc. You are inserting duplicate text into multiple articles about small Polish villages. The text is not only WP:UNDUE for such small places but also phrased the way that might suggest to readers that the area where these villages are located was always German, which is not true. Again, the issue was explained to you already -->  -  GizzyCatBella  🍁  13:02, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Jonny84. Sorry I have to agree with GizzyCatBella, this issue has been explained to you multiple times by several different editors. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 13:38, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) How can a 18th century foundation can be related with Piast dynasty? I still don't see any logical explanation.. 2) All these villages were founded at the same time, even if the text was similar it was still correct.. Now I want to ask for justification of deleting correct and sourced information. This problem is just made up by you two.. Something that didn't existed before, simply can't have a more diverse history.. --Jonny84 (talk) 17:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Right now, after your reverts two centuries of Prussian history are missing out in this articles and you are accusing me of one-sided edits? I brought balance in.. But now it's one-sided mentioning only Poland, like it's been there always.. If you don't see the contradiction in your arguments and edits, then I'm also sorry.. This is simply pov and nothing more.. --Jonny84 (talk) 17:35, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

 * The solution, Jonny84, is for you to cease coming at this from the standpoint of "I'm right and everyone else is wrong, wrong, wrong." The nature of a consensus-based environment is that sometimes you are going to be on the wrong side of consensus, and that's when you lose gracefully and move on.  No one can compel you to agree with everyone else.  But if you are constitutionally incapable of accepting that the consensus view prevails all the same, then you are a poor fit for the encyclopedia, no matter how many years/edits you've put in.   Ravenswing      15:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Before this, user E-960 was pointed out in a former discussion not to erase sentences and to expand articles.. By other users.. He ignored it all.. And moved on with erasing, and he even started to ask bots for help.. Making it escalating.. And now I'm the one who is incapable of accepting..? Looks like simple dissimilarity... Besides I'm the only on who was working with reliable sources instead of the others.. Nevermind, if Wikipedia don't want reputations.. --Jonny84 (talk) 17:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Further you didn't answered the question, how it's satisfied to erase an expansion of information with reliable sources? I'm not the one here who ignores this.. --Jonny84 (talk) 17:21, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * No one is obligated to personally satisfy you on this point or any other. JBL (talk) 18:56, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If there is a revert of sourced edits, there should be an explanation of such actions.. But it's kinda interesting how there is no reaction from any of the admins on all the multiple times E-960 reverted my edits or others in the past.. --Jonny84 (talk) 23:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * What E-960 did or did not do, and how people did or did not deal with him, is not the issue here, and no longer any concern of yours. What is the issue here is your own refusal to take responsibility for your own actions; your edit warring, your vandalism, your lack of good faith. It was explained to you by several editors and admins, several times over, that E-960's edits did not constitute vandalism.  You refused to listen.  You were admonished for personal attacks.  You refused to own up to making them.  You were caught performing vandalism yourself.  You could not bring yourself to admit fault, instead claiming that you were being "bullied" and repeating "what about the other guy?" over and over. JBL was dead on: no one is obligated to personally satisfy you on this point or any other, and within a couple of days (if not sooner), everyone will tire of waiting for you to stop baying at the moon.  It has been explained to you what you need to do to have your editing privileges restored.  If it is more important to you to die on this hill, not back down, and have the last word, so be it.   Ravenswing      04:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * After all, this is the website of the Ozimek commune with the history of Jedlice.. It states clearly that Jedlice was founded in the 18th century (!).. If I'm starting my edits with the period of foundation, how could I miss any period in this article? --Jonny84 (talk) 17:26, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Unless I'm missing something that source says an ironworks was built there in the 18th century, but doesn't specifically mention when the area was founded. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 19:06, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * It says ″1784″ just on top, this is the year of first mentioning (But we can also have it even with more details from any Prussian document). Foundation of the iron works was also the foundation of the place, because there was no settlement before (It's easy to check with any historic map ). Jedlice was an settlement for workers of the iron works, which even consisted of a few houses only. So.. There is even a map of the projected settlement. Also we can find on the website of the commune: Creutzthal 1776, Münchhausen 1773, Antonia 1781, Königliche Hütte Malapane 1754, Hüttendorf Malapane 1762, all this places are no medieval villages and they have never been related with Bohemian Crown, Piast dynasty or whatever.. --Jonny84 (talk) 23:01, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You appear to be drifting into WP:OR here. We can't use multiple sources to make original ideas, unless a source states categorically what the foundation date was then we can't say it either. Historical maps suffer much the same issue, if someone publishes statements on the map we could use that but we can't use our own interpretation of it. Also historical maps are poor sources, especially the further you go back in time. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 00:43, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

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Gitarama Province

Gitarama was one of the former twelve provinces (intara) of Rwanda and was situated in the centre of the country, to the west of the capital Kigali. Gitarama Prefecture was created in 1959, increasing the number of prefectures of Rwanda from eight to nine. In 2002, it was renamed a province, as were the other prefectures of Rwanda. It had an area of 2,187 square kilometres and a population of some 851,451 (2002 figures) prior to its dissolution in January 2006. Gitarama was divided into 8 districts: Muhanga, Kayumbu, Kabagali, Ntenyo, Kamonyi, Ntongwe, Ndiza and Ruyumba; and two towns: Ruhango and Gitarama. Gitarama bordered the provinces Butare, Gikongoro, Kibuye, Gisenyi, Ruhengeri, Kigali-Ngali and Kigali City Tourist attractions included the Kamegeri rocks and the Busaga forest.

Rwandan genocide
On 16 April, leaders of the Rwandan genocide began to move against their local opposition. Up to this point, key military officers, bourgmestres and prefects had opposed the outbreak of genocidal violence; some were killed, while others eventually yielded under political pressure and threats of violence. On 16 April several key figures were taken down including Marcel Gatsinzi, Army Chief of Staff of the Rwandan Armed Forces (FAR). Gatzini was promoted to general, along with Léonidas Rusatira, while Augustin Bizimungu took over as Army Chief of Staff; but not all opposition leaders lost their positions on 16 April.

The prefect of Gitarama, Fidele Uwizeye, was one of those who managed to hold on to his position. According to a 1999 Human Rights Watch (HRW) report, when the genocide began, many members of the Republican Democratic Movement (Mouvement démocratique républicain, MDR) had initially refused to participate. They saw the genocide as a power grab by rival political factions National Republican Movement for Democracy and Development (Mouvement républicain national pour la démocratie et le développement, MRND) and Coalition for the Defence of the Republic (Coalition pour la Défense de la République, CDR). Because the MDR refused to join the genocide, the MRND and CDR forces crossed the prefectural boundary of Gitarama as the violence spread outward from Kigali. Joseph Setiba led the Interahamwe militia, in attacks against the Taba commune and Runda. As militia members from the provinces of Kibuye, Gisenyi, and Ruhengeri also began to enter Gitarama, the people of the province attempted to repel them by force. Both Hutus and Tutsis, under Uwizeye's leadership, participated in the defense of Gitarama. The ranks of the militia continued to swell as the interim government relocated moved its base of operations from Kigali to Gitarama.

According to HRW, Callixte Nzabonimana, who was affiliated with MRND and local to Gitarama, publicly admonished the bourgmestre of Rutobwe for refusing to participate in the genocide by publicly slapping him. One former bourgmestre from Nyamabuye testified before the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda that the Presidential Guard and Interhamwe had swept through Gitarama "teaching the ideology of killing, of massacres. They incited the population to hate the local authority by saying that those who did not kill the Tutsi were accomplices of the Inkotanyi." (Inkotanyi is a pejorative word used by some Hutu as a slur for Tutsi people.)

On 18 April, a meeting was called by Uwizeye for the local leaders, which was reportedly also attended by members of the interim government including Nzabonimana, André Rwamakuba, Straton Nsabumukunzi, Eliézer Niyitegeka, Jean de Dieu Habineza and Justin Mugenzi. Jean Paul Akayesu, the bourgmestre of Taba, also attended this meeting.

Taken from "Killing Neighbors" by Lee Ann Fujii:

The Gitarama region was the founding place of Grégoire Kayibanda's Parmehutu, the party founded by Rwanda's first president. This region and the political elites involved, were also the source of much tension between the capital province of Kigali in the north, and the central and south province of Gitarama. This tension eventually played a role in the conflicts behind the Rwandan genocide. Page 48

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ikecer

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The result of the debate was delete. Jitse Niesen (talk) 21:49, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Ikecer
On the talk page, the author admits that this is a story ?he is writing and also appears to be claiming copyright. Anyway, it's not an encyclopedia article.-Aranel (" Sarah ") 15:34, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete vanity, nn, possibly advertising, not an encyclopedia article Groeck 15:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pburka 15:40, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's Eye-of-Argon-bad, to boot. --Agamemnon2 20:18, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete this inane blather.  Paul Klenk 22:42, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete for all of the above reasons BillC 22:48, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete this is useless ike9898 21:49, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patricia Hill Collins

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The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash 01:21, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Patricia Hill Collins
Nominated for speedy, but not a candidate. Former head of a university department. No vote from me at this time. Pburka 15:34, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete; pure vanity page -Howardjp 15:55, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep; I amend my vote as the article's quality has improved and shown the value of the subject. -Howardjp 00:10, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. I've done a bit more research, and I now believe that she is more notable than the average professor. 824 (unique) google hits, many publications (available from amazon), two awards. Black Feminist Thought has an amazon rank of 18,112, which is very, very high for an academic work. Pburka 16:14, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Pburka, you can ask that the nomination be withdrawn since you were the instigator. Sdedeo 20:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't really consider myself the instigator. Another editor nominated the article for speedy -- I simply moved it from WP:CSD to WP:PFD. Pburka 23:30, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, reluctantly, because she published. If her books are drivel, we'll never know.    Paul Klenk 22:40, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Pburka. -- DS1953 00:31, August 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Published books + awards = notability. Denni ☯ 01:28, 2005 August 28 (UTC)
 * STRONG keep. Extremely EXTREMELY well-known in sociological circles, often mentioned in the same breath as Cornel West and bell hooks.  Black Feminist Thought is required reading in many race and gender classes.  I cannot emphasize ENOUGH how strongly this should be kept.  I am seriously surprised to see this even up on VfD.  -HX 04:02, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I have expanded this article further. Highly notable African American feminist academic and author of several highly regarded books within her field. Capitalistroadster 06:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep as per Capitalistroadster. Hall Monitor 23:35, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:Haitian Slave Revolt

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SPARCstation 20

The SPARCstation 20 or SS20 (code-named Kodiak) is a discontinued Sun Microsystems workstation introduced in March 1994 based on the SuperSPARC or hyperSPARC CPU. It is one of the last models in the SPARCstation family of Sun "pizza box" computers, which was superseded by the UltraSPARC design in 1995.

Release price
Sun rolled out the SPARCstation 20 for US$12195 1994.

CPU support
The SPARCstation 20 has dual 50 MHz MBus ports that allow it to use faster CPUs than the SPARCstation 10. With two dual-CPU modules and updated firmware, the SPARCstation 20 supports a maximum of four CPUs. The fastest CPU produced for the SPARCstation 20 is the 200 MHz Ross hyperSPARC.

The PROM in the SPARCstation 20 determines CPU compatibility. Version 2.25 is the last BootPROM release from Sun, and 2.25R from Ross.

Memory
The SPARCstation 20 has eight 200-pin DSIMM slots, and supports a maximum of 512 MB of memory with 64 MB modules. Memory modules for the SPARCstation 20 are compatible with the SPARCstation 10, Sun Ultra 1, and some other computers in the sun4m and sun4u families, but they are physically incompatible with the SIMM slots found in PC computers.

Two of the eight SIMM slots are wider than the others and can be used with non-memory peripherals like caching NVSIMM and video VSIMM cards.

Disk drives
The SPARCstation 20 has two internal SCA bays, an external SCSI connector, and two bays for CD-ROM or floppy drives. Earlier revisions of the SPARCstation 20 case contain a CD-ROM and floppy bays that are slightly shorter than a standard 3.5" bay and regular devices intended for PC compatible computers do not usually fit. Later revisions of the SPARCstation 20 and SPARCstation 5 have a narrower slot for the floppy drive so a more-standard CD-ROM can fit.

The SCSI host controller is integrated with the motherboard. The SPARCstation 20 does not support IDE devices.

A limitation in all releases of the OpenBoot PROM for the SPARCstation 20 prevents it from booting from a point on a disk past the 2 gigabyte mark.

Network
The SPARCstation 20 has one integrated AMD Lance 10BASE-T Ethernet interface, along with a custom 26-pin AUI interface. Additional Ethernet interfaces can be added with an SBus card.

Graphics
The SPARCstation 20 has a built-in 13W3 video socket driven by an optional SX (CG14) framebuffer built onto a VSIMM. The VSIMM is available in 4 MB or 8 MB capacity, capable of up to (4 MB) or  (8 MB) in 24-bit color. If two VSIMMs are installed, an auxiliary video board must also be installed to provide a second 13W3 video socket. Alternatively, SBus cards can be used, including the 8-bit color Turbo GX (CG6), 24-bit color ZX (Leo) and others.

Sound
The SPARCstation 20 has integrated sound with four standard 3.5 mm audio jacks for headphones, microphone, line in, and line out.

NVRAM
The SPARCstation 20 uses a battery-backed NVRAM module to hold data about the system, such as the host ID (serial number) and MAC address. If the battery on the chip dies, then the NVRAM module must be replaced (or modified to use an external battery), and the NVRAM must be reprogrammed with a MAC address and host ID. Optionally a M48T08-100PC1 can be used.

Operating systems

 * SunOS 4.1.3_U1B onwards
 * Solaris 2.3 to 9
 * Linux (Debian, Gentoo, SuSE 7.0 - 7.3, probably others)
 * NetBSD
 * OpenBSD (up to 5.9)
 * MirOS BSD
 * NeXTSTEP 3.3 and OPENSTEP 4.x (SuperSPARC CPU modules only)

Notable uses

 * 117 SPARCstation 20 Model HS11 units, 87 with two 100 MHz hyperSPARC processors and 30 with four 100 MHz hyperSPARC processors, plus a single octo-processor SPARCserver 1000 were used to render Toy Story.

Related computers

 * SPARCstation 5
 * SPARCstation 10

Vendor documentation

 * SPARCstation 20 System Configuration Guide
 * SPARCstation 20 Service Manual
 * Sun4m Boot PROM Revisions
 * Sun NVSIMM installation guide

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Purple Belt

Purple Belt may refer to the following:
 * Purple belt, a rank in martial arts (see Kyū)
 * Purple belt (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu), a level in the Brazilian jiu-jitsu ranking system
 * A road in the Allegheny County belt system.

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Talk:Hairy-Tailed Bat

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Semi-symmetric graph

In the mathematical field of graph theory, a semi-symmetric graph is an undirected graph that is edge-transitive and regular, but not vertex-transitive. In other words, a graph is semi-symmetric if each vertex has the same number of incident edges, and there is a symmetry taking any of the graph's edges to any other of its edges, but there is some pair of vertices such that no symmetry maps the first into the second.

Properties
A semi-symmetric graph must be bipartite, and its automorphism group must act transitively on each of the two vertex sets of the bipartition (in fact, regularity is not required for this property to hold). For instance, in the diagram of the Folkman graph shown here, green vertices can not be mapped to red ones by any automorphism, but every two vertices of the same color are symmetric with each other.

History
Semi-symmetric graphs were first studied E. Dauber, a student of F. Harary, in a paper, no longer available, titled "On line- but not point-symmetric graphs". This was seen by Jon Folkman, whose paper, published in 1967, includes the smallest semi-symmetric graph, now known as the Folkman graph, on 20 vertices. The term "semi-symmetric" was first used by Klin et al. in a paper they published in 1978.

Cubic graphs
The smallest cubic semi-symmetric graph (that is, one in which each vertex is incident to exactly three edges) is the Gray graph on 54 vertices. It was first observed to be semi-symmetric by. It was proven to be the smallest cubic semi-symmetric graph by Dragan Marušič and Aleksander Malnič.

All the cubic semi-symmetric graphs on up to 10000 vertices are known. According to Conder, Malnič, Marušič and Potočnik, the four smallest possible cubic semi-symmetric graphs after the Gray graph are the Iofinova–Ivanov graph on 110 vertices, the Ljubljana graph on 112 vertices, a graph on 120 vertices with girth 8 and the Tutte 12-cage.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/353 Fusiliers

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The result of the debate was delete. Jitse Niesen (talk) 21:57, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

353 Fusiliers
Non-notable, possibly vanity, quite likely MIT alumni cruft. Anville 15:37, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn Groeck 15:45, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. An intramural team that lasted one year and had three members. Fernando Rizo T/C 18:47, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete.   Paul Klenk 22:38, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Completely non-notable, almost humorously so Drdisque 07:29, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete please. kthxbi. Gold Stur 20:37, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:Hägerstrand, Torsten

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Talk:Ray Buttigieg

Merge from Ray Buttigieg/Cykx request
I see no problem in keeping separate articles, the merge suggestions comes from noticing that the Ray Buttigieg is still smal enough (9.2kB) to fit in the current content of the other (3.0kB). I prefer medium sized articles (with some 20kB of text) to a collection of small sized ones, most of all I think it is better for someone printing them, since they end up with one coherent text rather than some unsorted pages (there are no links to jump around in printed text...) Also the Ray Buttigieg/Cykx content is mostly about Ray Buttigieg and duplicated with its article. Which I see as natural since Cykx is a computer, which I'd say is (was?) nothing more than a sophisticated instrument. So I think merging would improve based on the current content. I also think it may grow large and informative enough to become a good article on its own, and that is precisely why I've tagged it to merge rather than merge it myself. Nabla 15:36:54, 2005-08-27 (UTC)

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NatureServe

NatureServe, Inc. is a non-profit organization based in Arlington County, Virginia, US, that provides proprietary wildlife conservation-related data, tools, and services to private and government clients, partner organizations, and the public. NatureServe reports being "headquartered in Arlington, Virginia, with regional offices in four U.S. locations and in Canada." In calendar year 2011 they reported having 86 employees, 6 volunteers, and 15 independent officers.

History
The Nature Conservancy reports that in 2000 it spun off its 85-center Natural Heritage Network "into a new independent organization, the Association for Biodiversity Information (later renamed NatureServe)." NatureServe reports that it was established in 1994 as the Association for Biodiversity Information. In 2001 the IRS approved a name change to NatureServe that was requested in 1999, while maintaining the organization's 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status granted in July 1995. NatureServe's website declares that it is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, tax-exempt corporation incorporated in 1999 as a Washington, DC Nonprofit Corporation.

Programs
NatureServe's programs focus on four main areas:
 * Documenting the conservation status and location of species and ecosystems
 * Producing analyses to guide conservation planning
 * Developing software tools to guide conservation planning
 * Managing natural heritage programs and conservation data centers

NatureServe partners with IUCN Red List, the accepted standard for worldwide imperiled species classification, providing coordination assistance and data from their own assessments to the IUCN's conservation assessments, and working together on ongoing assessments.

NatureServe Explorer is a web-based database provides public access to NatureServe's proprietary information on US and Canadian ecosystems and plant, animal, and fungus species. This includes ranked NatureServe conservation status assessment data on state, national, and global levels, considered a leading classification of imperiled species in the United States. Infonatura was a nearly identical service providing information on Latin American wildlife and ecosystems.

NatureServe maintains the National Vegetation Classification Standard for the United States as well as the International Classification of Ecological Communities, currently focused on the Western Hemisphere.

The NatureServe network
The natural heritage network now supported by NatureServe, began in 1974 with the creation of the South Carolina Heritage Trust. After working with Patrick Noonan, president of The Nature Conservancy (TNC), to arrange the donation of the 24000 acre Santee Coastal Reserve, Joseph Hudson, chairman of South Carolina’s Wildlife and Marine Resources Department, wanted to identify other preservation-worthy lands in the state. He provided TNC with initial funding to amass information that could inform conservation and land-use decision-making while accounting for impacts on biodiversity.

While establishing that first program, TNC chief scientist Robert Jenkins Jr., chose to focus on biological features in need of conservation, and to use this information to suggest priority sites for protection. Targeted features included both species and natural communities, or elements of natural diversity.

Programs in West Virginia, Mississippi, and Oregon followed in 1975. By 1976, TNC had developed a model for expanding the emerging state network: go to the states and offer to hire and train a staff of biologists, establish an operating center, and, two years later, let the state take over operations. By 1993, the U.S. network consisted of organizations in all fifty states. Programs were formed in Latin American countries in 1982, and the Canadian programs first established in 1988 now extend to all provinces and Yukon Territory.

By the early 1990s, a group of natural heritage program directors began to develop network-wide information products. This effort led to the establishment of an independent nonprofit organization devoted to promoting the products and services of the network. Incorporated in 1994 as the Association for Biodiversity Information (ABI), this membership organization created the framework for network-wide coordination. In 1999, TNC’s natural heritage network and ABI formally joined forces, with the Conservancy transferring its databases, professional staff, and scientific standards and methodology to ABI. In 2001, having grown into its present form, this new, independent nonprofit became known as NatureServe.

Financial information
NatureServe Inc.'s 2011 IRS Form 990 lists total revenue of $8,680,216 and total expenses of $8,892,007.

The corporation's fiscal year 2011 audited financial statement says that "the accompanying notes are an integral part of these financial statements." It reports "total revenue, gains, and other support" of $9,499,301, and "total expenses" of $8,913,138. $7,932,133 of revenue came from grants and contracts, including a sizable portion in federal awards for mapping services, wildlife assessments, and other products and services. It also reports $186,290 in revenue from general contributions, $56,470 in revenue from membership dues, and $216,062 in fundraising expenses.

Some major contributions are made in the form of grants for specific projects. The MacArthur Foundation reported that they awarded $1,191,500 in grants to NatureServe between 2003 and 2013, and NatureServe announced that the Doris Duke Charitable Foundation awarded two grants totaling nearly $800,000 in 2005. Between 2004 and 2009, the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation donated $6.63 million, the Nature Conservency donated $3.43 million, the Knoblock Family Foundation donated $2.38 million, and the Doris Duke Charitable Foundation donated $1.21 million.

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Talk:History of Yokohama, Japan

I think this should be deleted, no need for a redirect even. balletgirl313 15:39, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

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David Bellos

David Bellos (born 1945) is a British academic, translator and biographer. He is the Meredith Howland Pyne professor of French and comparative literature at Princeton University in the United States, and was director of its translation and intercultural communication programme from 2007 to 2019.

Biography
Bellos has written literary biographies of Romain Gary and Georges Perec, and has published work on Honoré de Balzac; his The Novel of the Century relates the writing of Les Misérables by Victor Hugo. He has also written a biography of the filmmaker Jacques Tati, Jacques Tati: His Life and Art, and appeared in The Magnificent Tati, a documentary about him.

Other works include an introduction to translation studies, ''Is That a Fish in Your Ear? Translation and The Meaning of Everything (2011) and Who Owns This Sentence. A History of Copyrights and Wrongs'', written with Alexandre Montagu and published in 2024.

He has translated much of the work of Perec into English, including the novel Life: A User's Manual.

He won the first Man Booker International Prize for translation in 2005 for his translations of works by Albanian author Ismail Kadare, despite not speaking Albanian. His translations were done from previous French translations.

He is the father of writer and broadcaster Alex Bellos.

Awards and honours

 * 1988 French-American Foundation prize for translation
 * 1994 Prix Goncourt de la Biographie
 * 2005 Man Booker International Prize, for translation of works by Ismail Kadare
 * 2015 Officier of the Ordre des Arts et des Lettres
 * 2017 American Library in Paris Book Award winner for The Novel of the Century
 * 2019 Howard T. Berhman Award for Distinguished Achievement in the Humanities, Princeton University

Translations

 * Georges Perec: Life A User's Manual, 1987 (French-American Foundation's translation prize); new edition, 2008
 * Georges Perec: W, or the Memory of Childhood, 1988
 * Georges Perec: Things: A Story of the Sixties, 1990
 * Georges Perec: 53 Days, 1992
 * Ismail Kadare: The Pyramid, 1995
 * Ismail Kadare:The File on H, 1996
 * Georges Ifrah: A Universal History of Numbers, 2000
 * Ismail Kadare: Spring Flowers, Spring Frost, 2001
 * Fred Vargas: Have Mercy On Us All, 2003
 * Fred Vargas: Seeking Whom He May Devour, 2004
 * Ismail Kadare: The Successor, 2005
 * Ismail Kadare: Agamemnon's Daughter, 2006
 * Ismail Kadare: The Siege, 2008
 * Hélène Berr: Journal, 2008
 * Georges Perec: Thoughts of Sorts, 2009
 * Romain Gary: Hocus Bogus, 2010
 * Georges Perec: The Art and Craft of Approaching Your Head of Department to Submit a Request for a Raise, 2011
 * Georges Simenon: Pietr the Latvian, 2013
 * Daniel Anselme: On Leave, 2014
 * Ismail Kadare: Twilight of the Eastern Gods, 2014
 * Georges Perec: Portrait of a Man, 2014 (UK), 2015 (USA)
 * Georges Perec: I Remember, 2014 (USA) (with Philip Terry)
 * Paul Fournel, Dear Reader, 2014 (UK)
 * Frédéric Dard, Bird in a Cage2016 (UK)
 * Delphine Horvilleur, Anti-Semitism Revisited, 2021 (UK)
 * Maxime Rovere, How To Deal With Idiorts (and stop being one yourself), 2021 (UK)

Biographies

 * Georges Perec. A Life in Words, 1993. (Prix Goncourt de la biographie). French edition, 1994. Japanese edition, 2014. Hebrew edition, 2016. New edition in French, 2022; German translation, 2023; Turkish and Chinese translations in progress.
 * Jacques Tati: His Life and Art, 1999. French edition, 2002; Italian edition, 2022. German edition forthcoming in 2024
 * Romain Gary. A Tall Story, Harvill Secker, November 2010

Other books
French translation by Daniel Loayza as Le poisson & le bananier, Flammarion, 2012, republished in 2017 as La Traduction dans tous ses états. Spanish translation by Vicente Campos, as Un Pez en la higuera. Ariel, 2012. German translation by Silvia Morawetz as Was macht der Fisch in meinem Ohr?, Eichborn, 2013. Russian translation by Natalia Shahova, Azbuka, 2019. Traditional Chinese translation, Rye Field, Taipei, 2019. Also translated into Simplified Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Persian.
 * Balzac Criticism in France, 1850–1900. The Making of a Reputation. Oxford, 1976
 * La Cousine Bette. A Critical Guide. London, 1981
 * Old Goriot (Landmarks of World Literature). Cambridge, 1987. Hebrew translation, Tek Aviv, 1990.
 * Is That a Fish in Your Ear? Translation and the Meaning of Everything. London and New York, 2011. Paperback edition, 2012.
 * The Novel of the Century: The Extraordinary Adventure of Les Misérables. London and New York, 2017. Korean edition, 2018. Japanese edition, 2018. Chinese edition, 2019

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Byumba Province

Byumba Province was one of the 12 former provinces (intara) of Rwanda and was situated in the north of the country, sharing a border with Uganda. It had an area of some 1,796 km2 and its population was estimated at 782,427 (2002 figures) prior to its dissolution in January 2006.

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Chaka of Bulgaria

Chaka (Чака) reigned as tsar of Bulgaria from 1299 to 1300. He was the son of the Mongol leader Nogai Khan by a wife named Alaka. Sometime after 1285 Chaka married a daughter of George Terter I of Bulgaria, named Elena. In the late 1290s, Chaka supported his father Nogai in a war against the legitimate khan of the Golden Horde, Toqta. Toqta defeated and killed Nogai in 1299.

Chaka had led his supporters into Bulgaria, intimidated the regency for Ivan II into fleeing the capital, and imposed himself as ruler in Tărnovo in 1299. It is not completely certain whether he reigned as Emperor of Bulgaria or simply acted as the overlord of his brother-in-law Theodore Svetoslav. He is accepted as a ruler of Bulgaria by Bulgarian historiography.

Chaka did not long enjoy his new position of power, as the armies of Toqta followed him into Bulgaria and besieged Tărnovo. Theodore Svetoslav, who had been instrumental in Chaka's seizure of power, organized a plot in which Chaka was deposed and strangled in prison in 1300. His head was sent to Toqta, which in turn secured Theodore Svetoslav's position as the new emperor of Bulgaria. It seems that Theodore Svetoslav's cooperation contributed to the withdrawal of Mongol interference in Bulgaria.

Family
It is not known if Chaka had children from Elena, the daughter of George I of Bulgaria. He had at least one son, Kara Küçük, likely from a concubine. Kara Küçük led a fragment of the Nogai Horde until sometime after 1301. After the death of Chaka, Kara Küçük fled the Horde with 3000 Tatar horsemen and offered to take service with Shishman of Vidin.

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Coastal Bend Aviators

The Coastal Bend Aviators were a minor league baseball team which played in Robstown, Texas, in the United States from 2003 to 2007. They were a member of the Central Baseball League, then the American Association and were not affiliated with any Major League Baseball team.

The team played at Aviators Stadium.

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West Park, Florida

West Park, officially the City of West Park, is a municipality in Broward County, Florida, United States. It was created on March 1, 2005. West Park is part of the Miami metropolitan area of South Florida. It is located in the southeastern part of the county and consists of the neighborhoods of Carver Ranches, Lake Forest, Miami Gardens (Broward County), and Utopia. A large portion of the city lies west of the town of Pembroke Park, so the new city was called "West Park". The city has a population of 15,130 as of the 2020 census.

History
The previously unincorporated neighborhoods of West Park embarked on the road to incorporation in 2004, after the Florida Legislature approved House Bill 1491, which provided for an election on November 2, 2004. Following a vote of 3,400 to 956 for incorporation, West Park was on its way to becoming Broward County's 31st city. After the election, residents elected an interim transition committee and held a series of workshops to gain input on the level of municipal-type services to be provided. It was decided that the new municipality would be known as West Park until a consensus was reached on a permanent name; this name was subsequently retained. On March 8, 2005, Eric H. Jones, Jr., was elected Mayor and four Commissioners were elected: Felicia M. Brunson, Thomas W. Dorsett, Sharon Fyffe and Rita "Peaches" Mack. They were sworn-in as the municipality's first elected leaders on March 10, 2005.

In 2011 West Park, received acknowledgement from the national non-profit organization KaBOOM! As the city garnered the designation of a 2011 Playful City USA community. This recognition was given the city's effort to “increase play opportunities for children”.

Geography
The city is bordered by Miami-Dade County on the south, Pembroke Park on the east, Hollywood on the north and Miramar on the west.

Media
The city of West Park has its own newspaper, "The West Park News", which is published by and part of Miami Community Newspapers.

2020 census
As of the 2020 United States census, there were 15,130 people, 4,260 households, and 3,274 families residing in the city.

As of the 2010 United States census, there were 14,156 people, 4,340 households, and 3,219 families residing in the city.

2000 census
As of 2000, before being annexed to West Park, the Carver Ranches neighborhood had English as a first language accounted for 96.90% of all residents, while Spanish accounted for 2.19%, and French Creole as a mother tongue made up 0.90% of the population.

As of 2000, before being annexed to West Park, the Lake Forest neighborhood had English as a first language accounted for 60.49% of all residents, while Spanish accounted for 34.79%, French Creole at 4.04%, and French as a mother tongue made up 0.67% of the population.

As of 2000, the Miami Gardens neighborhood, before being annexed to West Park, had Spanish as a first language accounted for 51.09% of all residents, while English accounted for 45.17%, and French Creole as a mother tongue made up 3.72% of the population.

As of 2000, before being annexed to West Park, the neighborhood of Utopia had English as a first language accounted for 80.62% of all residents, while Spanish as a mother tongue made up 19.37% of the population.

As of 2000, before West Park annexed it, the Miami Gardens neighborhood had the 103rd-highest percentage of Colombian residents in the US, with 1.63% of the US populace. The forty-fourth-highest percentage of Cuban residents in the US, at 9.76% of the city's population (tied with Key Largo,) the twenty-fourth-highest percentage of Dominicans in the US, with 4.62%, and the fifteenth-highest percentage of Jamaican residents in the US, at 6.3% of the city's population. It also had the forty-fourth-most Peruvians in the US, at 1.26% (tied with North Plainfield, New Jersey,) while it had the forty-fifth-highest percentage of Haitians (tied with Leisure City), at 3.6% of all residents. Also, West Park's Miami Gardens neighborhood had the sixty-first-highest percentage of Puerto Ricans, which was at an 11.2% populace. As of 2010, there were 4,711 households, out of which 8.0% were vacant.

Education
Residents are zoned to schools in Broward County Public Schools:
 * A portion of the town is zoned to Lake Forest Elementary School, and a portion is zoned to Watkins Elementary School.
 * McNichol Middle School
 * Hallandale High School

title: West Park, Florida


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Bill Ward (actor)

Bill Ward (born 5 May 1967) is an English actor. He is known for his soap opera roles as Charlie Stubbs in Coronation Street and James Barton in Emmerdale.

Early life
Ward was educated at Oundle School and Bristol University where he obtained a degree in Modern British History, and worked as an advertising executive before beginning his professional acting career in the 1980s.

Career
He acted widely in theatre and television, joining the cast of Coronation Street in 2003, portraying local builder Charlie Stubbs, until 2007 when his character was killed by Tracy Barlow after a domestic abuse storyline. He made his second appearance in a major soap opera role as James Barton in Emmerdale beginning in 2013. However, Ward announced in August 2016 that he was quitting the soap, and his character was killed off in October 2016. Outside of acting, Ward is noted as a photographer.

Ward also had a role in 2003 in BBC TV's EastEnders, in which he played the role of Mike Parker. He also has had roles in shows such as ITV's The Bill and Heartbeat. In 2019, he starred as retired drag queen Hugo Battersby / Loco Chanelle in the acclaimed musical Everybody's Talking About Jamie at the Apollo Theatre for a limited run. In December 2020, it was revealed that Ward had undertaken work as a delivery driver for Tesco, after several acting jobs he had scheduled were cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic. In September 2023, he appeared in an episode of the BBC soap opera Doctors as Mickey Gilmore.

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Talk:Plouézec International Meetings

Esperanto center in La-Chaud-de-Fonds?
Is the Esperanto centre in La-Chaud-de-Fonds mentioned in the article the same thing as the Centre de documentation et d'étude sur la langue internationale, about which a (stubby) article already exists? If so we should fix the link to point to it (and if someone knows more about the Centre they should expand said stub). --Jim Henry | Talk 15:43, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Video game boss

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The result of the debate was ALREADY REDIRECTED to Boss (video games). -Splash 01:23, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Video game boss
I think this should be deleted because there is already a page about video game bosses here, Boss (video games) Videogameplayer 15:43, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. There isn't even anything to merge, so delete it is.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 15:47, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect. No need for a VfD. Pburka 16:36, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect as per Pburka. RasputinAXP   talk  *  contribs  19:02, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect – as per above.   — Kjammer  ⌂  19:39, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect is fine. Punkmorten 20:50, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as is.  Paul Klenk 22:33, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect as per above. Penelope D 23:41, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment I've boldly gone with the redirect now --- "no need for an admin for this" and so on. Redirects don't seem to work when there's something else on the page, but I was iffy about removing the VfD template, so I moved it to talk (updating it so it still pointed here). I, uh, I guess this can be closed now, huh? --fuddlemark 14:19, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashtyn Evans

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The result of the debate was delete. Jitse Niesen (talk) 21:57, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Ashtyn Evans
A technical writer with several unpublished books doesn't appear very notable to me. The article is also very POV. Al 15:43, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * delete as per Al. -- Austrian 16:42, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The author's web site is slated for publication. I am editing my position as the writer of this article and the head of this Author's fan club. I am saying that it isn't socks. Sorry but I only posted once. The other posters anonymous are not me. I feel that, while new to wikipedia, I am being bitten (bite the newbie) for trying to inform about this up and coming author. -- User:Ashtynfanclub

 * Many entries on the Wiki are Point of View based. I don't see any reason to delete a biographical reference to an up and coming author. The wiki is for such, is it not?

 * One of the five pillars of Wikipedia is that the Wikipedia"Neutral point of view criterion is paramount. If there are "many" entries that are point of view based, they are in vioaltion of this precept.  Please point to a couple so they can be dealth with.  Having said that, please note that new users' votes on Pages for deletion are generally discounted because they have no prior Wikipedia presence.  And no, the purpose of Wikipedia is not to publicize up and coming anything, but to document people, places and things which can be considered to be encyclopedia-worthy.  This is not a PR firm.Zoe 22:01, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Gee. I guess it's alright to just slam on someone for a user of Wikipedia with a "prior Wikipedia presence" to break the rules presented by the site, which was reportedly a "newbie-friendly" site.  So much for "don't bite the newbie".  Whereas previously I'd intended to become a contributor of information to wikipedia, I believe I'll stick to writing paid guides to subjects from this point on.  I'd hope that the administration of the site pays mind to this Zoe's reaction to my commentry.  Pardon the ignorant newbie who was glad to find a good writer's biography set up on wiki already.  User: Kizanth (Registered less than four hours ago, and already belittled by "prior Wikipedia presence)
 * See Votes for deletion/Coug it, where a new user is complaining that he wasn't told that votes by newbies are discounted. Like I said in a discussion on the subject, damned if you do and damned if you don't.  Zoe 23:22, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * I vote the article remains on the site. Just because someone is undiscovered does not make them un-notable. The point is to have a directory focused on the thoughts and points of others as long as the facts are honest then nothing should be wrong.
 * Delete, crystal ballish, vanity, socks. Sdedeo 19:32, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, nn author. Ten books in a series?  More power to her, I doubt any publisher will commit to a ten book series by an unknown author.  Zoe 22:02, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Paul Klenk 22:36, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

=The author wishes to be deleted. She didn't asked to be placed on wikipedia nor did she ask for any type of publicity. Her fans took it amongst themselves. So I recommend removing it due to the author, Ms. Evans wishes. That was my faux pas.

Please delete this entry, and please for the love of God find some way to stop certain users from lingering on the deletion section, as it seems a CERTAIN user likes to bash on any "up for deletion" topics. Perhaps it would be advisable that the wikipedia administration find a better way to stop the newbie bashing and belittling. Damned if you visit wiki, it seems.
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Talk:Eternal sin

Errors in Article
In the section of Biblical Passages these verses do not belong: Hebrews 6:4-9 Hebrews 10:26-27 These verses both talked about the unsaved rejecting Jesus - which are both still forgivable while your alive on this Earth.

The unforgivable sin described in the Bible can be forgiven - if you ask. If you die in the unforgivable sin - you will go to Hell. No True Christian can commit this sin.

Also - SUICIDE in the Catholic Religion is supposedly unforgivable because there is no way to confess that sin after death (no way to reconcile with God). Which is false. If you have Jesus - it doesn't matter what sin you commit - your forgiven. Yes - you still should confess them to maintain a healthy relationship with God, but it's not required. You cannot lose your salvation - through any sin.

Also - Christianity is not Catholic, Mormon, Judaism, Jehovah's Witness.

Jareno18 (talk) 02:00, 4 December 2008 (UTC)Justin Reno
 * Suicide was supposed by some to be unforgiven, but not "the" unforgivable sin because of an accident, viz. final impenitence. Yet the Saint Curé of Ars has settled the matter in, by speaking of an actual incident that had been revealed to him, reminding us that the suicide can actually repent in the intermediate time between his suicidal act and their subsequent death. Btw, in saying that a Christian can not sin unto losing his salvation, you're contradicting Our Lord (blessed be His Name) as in his words reported in Mt 7, 21-23.--77.4.118.194 (talk) 21:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

It seems someone added analysis to the Mark quote, inside of the quote. I'm gong to delete that now, as it does not belong there.

Rocknrollerguy37 June 19, 2009 —Preceding undated comment added 16:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC).

 * Actually the sentence you removed is part of the Biblical quote. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Well, that last sentence is Mark 3:30 actually. The quote is identified as being Mark 3:28-29, so either it has to be reidentified as 3:28-30 or the last sentence removed.  Take your pick.  I suggest the latter.Rocknrollerguy37 12:14, June 20, 2009

other Christian views
What is the theological basis for the belief that suicide is an unforgivable sin? All of the Christians I know (a number of Catholics, and some evangelicals of various stripes) are adamant that this is so (and express surprise when I tell them that Christ himself identified another as the biggie). How is it that this became became such a pervasive concept? 165.91.64.111 (talk) 03:23, 26 July 2008 (UTC)RKH

 * The idea is that a suicide has no opportunity to repent, since he's dead. The idea that suicide = automatic Hell isn't Catholic doctrine, though; for one thing, a mortal sin requires 'full consent of the will', and many (probably most) people who commit suicide have mental problems which would prevent such. Vultur (talk) 14:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

As a Roman Catholic we were taught the unforgivable sin included rejecting your faith. If a believer with full knowledge of the faith rejects it and denies God, they commit the "unforgivable" sin, primarily since they no longer accept God then by definition they can't ask for forgiveness of sin. Therefore, becoming an atheist is an unforgivable sin. This does not apply to those raised without the faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjdon67 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

What about in the Orthodox Christian Church? What do they teach Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is or consists of?--Splashen (talk) 18:36, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Fixed a bunch of stuff
I re-arranged everything, deleted the worthless junk, etc. I left Calvinism mostly unchanged, it's a mess, but should be kept because it is very theologically deep. Somebody else is going to have to gather where the information came from though. Glorthac (talk) 07:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Arminians & Wesleyans
I removed the material about these groups which was not only inaccurate, but cited a source or two which is far from representative of what these groups believe. KHM03 15:44, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

External link
Define an eternal sin as prescribed by the bible ... the bible doesn't really deal in absolutes as far as my interpretation goes.

Lol, I interpret the Bible as having absolutely no subjective truths, but only objective ones.Glorthac (talk) 07:49, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Bias
These "thorns and briers" bring to mind the "thorny ground" in the parable of the sower (Matthew 13) - people who fall away from what they once knew, choked by the pleasures of the world. A "sow that was washed returning to wallow in the mire" (2 Peter 2:22) was always a sow. Just as a tare was always a tare. Those not saved eventually show their true nature.

That citation is from the second to last paragraph of the article. The last sentence quoted above seems to me to be decidedly Deterministic and needs some rewording, such as, "An Deterministic interpretation of this scripture could mean that those not saved eventually show their true nature" or something less biased.

The Eternal Sin
I think the material here is somewhat vague. Other than that, it's pretty accurate. The introduction could be somewhat better, a tad bit clearer. More use of simplistic terms, or, better arrangement of the existing complex structures.

"Neutrality Disputed" warning
The main article has a "Neutrality Disputed" warning, which resends to the Talk page. Although I can see various criticism on the quality of the main article, I cannot detect any objection to its ""Neutrality" (NPOV).

My only objection is that there is no reference, throughout the main article, to the cognate notion of Mortal sin.

I propose therefore to:

Add cross-links through out both articles (Eternal sin and Mortal sin, including the respective “See also” sections )

Remove the "Neutrality Disputed" warning from the Eternal sin main article.  Miguel de Servet 16:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and removed the POV tag. Fatalis 21:49, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Others say
Well other preachers say that it is easy to commit this sin, even by saying that someone who is operating under the power of the Holy Ghost is not, commits the sin. Also uttering any bad words towards the Holy Spirit, commits the sin.--Fr3nZi3 23:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

That's impossible given the verses that they say that any sin can be forgiven. What Jesus said was "Anyone who does it won't be forgiven" and not "You people have done it so you won't be forgiven". They did think He was operating with the devil's power but even that wasn't unforgivable. 86.40.131.167 (talk) 07:02, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Context
John Piper goes into excellent detail about the context of Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. If anyone has not taken a look at it, please do. I honestly believe John Piper has pretty much got the meaning of this unique sin. It needs to be taken into context as Jesus never said the Pharisees ever committed it. And from the opinions of other's, they seem to agree. There is an audio version at this page as well if you won't want to read it. Hellogoodsir 17:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/1984/432_Beyond_Forgiveness_Blasphemy_Against_the_Spirit/

Added into the external linksGlorthac (talk) 07:46, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

This is scary
I'll never blaspheme against Spirit. I'm afraid of going to Hell.--Angel David (talk) 22:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Good choice. But you should be aware that hardly anyone considers the mere speaking of blasphemous words against the HS to be an eternal sin. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

This concept actually discourage honest and sincere discussion. Even among decent and true Christians, who have accepted God and Jesus Christ, we are not allowed to question the Holy Spirit, because immediately to question the Holy Spirit becomes an eternal sin! I once had a pastor who ended all discussions and period simply because of this. But please, blasphemy is not the intention. Free enquiry for the sake of understanding is. Out of the three, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is the most difficult to understand and to accept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.26.61.226 (talk) 06:11, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

There are plenty of verses in the Bible and revelations not in the Bible where God or the Virgin Mary or someone else have said that all sins can be forgiven therefore the only unforgivable sin can only be to die not feeling sorry for your sins, the Blessed Trinity are equal but the role of the Holy Spirit is to help in getting one's sins forgiven through baptism and to assist a person's conscience. 86.41.69.44 (talk) 03:07, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

"Eternal Sin"? Whose prefered term is that?
Why is this concept, more often referred to as "the Unpardonable Sin" being redirected to a much lesser used appellation "Eternal Sin"? Even "unforgivable sin" is used more often than is "Eternal Sin"... Google all three and you'll see. Seems to me that there is something out of joint when a concept is developed in Wikipedia under a minority terminology with the major term/terms being mere redirects.

"Eternal Sin" seems to be a modern locution, it appears in the New International Version of the Bible, Mark 3:28-29... But it is NOT true to the original which speaks of "eternal condemnation" or "eternal damnation"...  This modern aversion to the concept of condemnation/damnation is confusing things. This is NOT scholarship to use suspect "translations"...

Looking back in history, someone started this as "Eternal Sin"; then "Unforgivable Sin" was added; and then I added the most prevalent appellation "the Unpardonable Sin" back in 2005... Without my theological library, I can't prove my contention that "Eternal Sin" is a modernist reinterpretation of biblical text, but the facts that I point out regarding the prevalence of other, preferred terms for "blaspheming against the Holy Spirit" would seem to suggest that things would better reflect the state of things if the article were re-named and re-worked to reflect those facts.

Anyone else have thoughts?

Emyth (talk) 20:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I just made a disambiguation so whatever they type in, they get this link. Glorthac (talk) 07:41, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Version of the bible?
Is there a reason why such an old translation of the bible is used in this page? As a modern and literate christian I find it difficult to understand, so I'm not sure that this page will be of much help to the average person. If you agree then could someone please update it (I don't want to do so until people agree, and also don't know how to yet!!). Thanks, Theteapot (talk) 16:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

What does this have to do with black metal? Seriously, I fail to see the connection. I'm not going to remove the category until someone gives me the okay, because it's not obviously vandalism and there may actually be a connection. 98.200.52.17 (talk) 23:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

POV in Section Universalism
From a doctrinal view, they take a more liberal approach toward the issue of salvation, under the belief that God is both loving and forgiving —and that the hardline view is at odds with the principles of faith, even when applied to the sinner and the question of eternal sin.

"hardline" is "impartial tone" or at least "insinuation". One sect (in no demeaning term) cannot become the "normal", and all others the "hard line".
 * It doesn't say "normal", it just says "more liberal". I see no partiality. Maybe "hardline" should be changed to "more conservative" or something like that, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.78.250.65 (talk) 17:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Greek
Would it be accurate to post the details regarding the original Greek of the New Testament verses? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.116.31.213 (talk) 00:11, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

 * You should only quote the Greek if it is absolutely necessary to explain something. You should be aware that quotes from primary sources (including the Bible) are generally discouraged, and the section that does that here is probably going to be rewritten very soon. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Re-thought Attitude? Be Careful
The best and most widely known example of someone committing the unpardonable sin is Judas Iscariot. Towards the beginning of Jesus's ministry, Jesus chose Judas to follow Him. And Judas accepted because he knew Jesus is the Messiah (then again, perhaps, Judas thought he would amass riches by following Jesus. Who knows?). Judas traveled with Jesus and heard Jesus's gospel, understood Jesus's gospel, and accepted Jesus's gospel as truth. Judas was by all sense of the modern term, a believer. I am to understand that it was Judas's rejection of the truth and ultimately, Judas's sin against the Holy Spirit that led to his demise. It is most likely not the same type of rejection found in Peter, who out of fear, told people that he, Peter, knew not the man Jesus who was arrested. Ronewirl (talk) 20:44, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

 * In the book of Revelation, one will find the passage describing the names of the 12 written on the 12 foundations of the City. The idea that Judas Iscariot betrayed the Lord and then committed suicide does bring up the interesting question:  Did Judas commit the unpardonable sin?  Food for thought.  Perhaps, the answer is "that's between God and Judas".  Ronewirl (talk) 13:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * All very interesting. Eternal Sin is one of those topics that invites a lot of speculation, and a whole variety of different views. However we should stick to discussing stuff that is relevant to writing an encyclopedia article. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:22, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Alas,....in a way, I'm trying to bring to this discussion forum an illustrative point of the subject at hand. For example, American Southern Baptists believe in the old saying "Once saved, always saved".  By presenting the case of Judas Iscariot, could his example be indeed the explanation for or the reason behind this old saying?  Another example to explain what it means to commit the unpardonable sin:  the Pharisees who made accusations against Jesus and blasphemed against the Holy Spirit.  Apparently (although I don't understand how there could be a distinct difference) there is a difference between the case of Judas Iscariot and the case of the biblical Pharisees.  Anyone?????.....Ronewirl (talk) 18:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * "Once saved, always saved" (or Perseverance of the saints) is only partly related to the question of eternal sin. A Christian does not have to commit an 'eternal sin' to lose their salvation (of you believe such to be possible); all that is required is that they renounce their faith and then their ordinary sins are unpardoned.
 * I'm not sure that Judas is the best example here. Some consider he committed an eternal sin, but in general that is considered due to his having committed suicide, rather than his better-known betrayal of Jesus. The betrayal and killing of Jesus is not usually viewed as unpardonable of itself; Jesus himself asks for forgiveness for his killers, and Peter's betrayal is clearly fogiven. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The Holy Bible defines eternal sin or unpardonable sin as "sin against the Holy Spirit", such as what took place during Jesus's time when the Pharisees blashemed against the Holy Spirit. In Matthew 12:31,32 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.  Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man [Jesus], it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come."  Those words lead one to think that a person can lose his/her salvation in this age and in the age to come.  Ronewirl (talk) 13:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You make a good point, but people do interpret those words differently, as the article discusses. DJ Clayworth (talk) 13:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Angels
I removed a section about Angels committing eternal sins as it had no references to support it. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:10, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Murder
I removed a comment about murder being unforgiveable, as that simply isn't the case. This article is about the Christian concept, and in Christianity murder is not unforgiveable. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:19, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe a confusion with the sins crying to heaven. --77.4.118.194 (talk) 21:26, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Not a forum
Just a reminder to all that this talk page, and Wikipedia in general, is not a forum for general discussion of this subject. Discussion here is specifically for improvement of the article Eternal sin, its structure and references. Elizium23 (talk) 16:28, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I John 5: 16, 17
I was wondering if the following verses should be added to the section that is quoting the New Testament.

I John 5:16, 17 (NASB) ''16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this. 17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.''

Is it possible that the author was refering to the "eternal" or "unpardonable" sin here? ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.116.205.162 (talk) 22:40, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

The Catholic view is that this is where the doctrine of mortal sin originates, I'm not sure what the protestant view is but probably that sin (not aItalic text sin) unto death is very bad. 86.41.69.44 (talk) 03:03, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Explaining my edit
I changed the wording introducing the listing the relevant scriptural passages so that it says that the passages are "frequently interpreted" as referring to the unforgivable sin, because not all scholars agree that some of these passages refer to it. For example, many scholars do not believe that Hebrews 6:4-6 refers to it (for example, this scholarly article ). Kansan (talk) 06:12, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

According to TVtropes Mortal Event Horizon
Complete Monsters here commit eternal sins without such redemption after they die. http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Complete_Monster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.142.94 (talk) 02:29, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

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Change the page name to Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
Change the page name to Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit Change the page name to Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit 191.254.134.253 (talk) 01:49, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Error in the "Jewish doctrine" section
This section is self-contradictory; it says "no sin can overcome forgiveness" and then quotes an example of unforgivable sin. Both cannot be correct because, if no sin can overcome forgiveness, every sin can be forgiven; therefore, a quotation which illustrates an unforgivable sin disproves the presumption.

Xuinkrbin. (talk) 04:28, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , no, the Reform rabbinical interpretation is given immediately after the Scripture passage, which puts it in the proper perspective and reinforces the teaching already explained. Elizium23 (talk) 04:29, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

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"Shirk includes polytheism, such as believing Jesus is God"

A person believing Jesus is God is not polytheism. Polytheism is the belief in many Gods. In the Hebrew Religion, The God of Abram is One God in three persons, commonly referred to a a Trinitarian God. The article should clarify that from an Islamic perspective, "a muslim may not believe there is any god but Allah and may not believe in any other gods". The article is better stated as such, or similarly, rather than mentioning Jesus related to polytheism. Mentioning Jesus makes the sentence appear biased or singling out Jesus with no reference. It is unlikely that a muslim would believe both Allah and Jesus to be god, simultaneously, so the reference to Jesus has no context. Daedelusrevisted (talk) 14:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

The will of God 2603:9000:ED00:85BE:964C:9A4B:EAD5:C543 (talk) 14:13, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Silvery River

Merge
I suggest this page be merged into Milky Way, which is about the mythology associated with the band of stars in the sky. --zandperl 15:44, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

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Progressive Rail, Inc.

Progressive Rail Inc. is a shortline railroad and owner of several other shortlines. PGR is directly operating several separate branches in Minnesota including the Airlake Terminal Railway. Progressive Rail also acquired the Wisconsin Northern Division in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin and operates as a separately-named division. They also own the Chicago Junction Railroad, Clackamas Valley Railway, the Iowa Traction Railway and Iowa Southern Railway in Iowa, the Crab Orchard and Egyptian Railroad in Illinois, the St. Paul & Pacific Northwest Railroad, and the Wisconsin Northern Railroad.

Progressive Rail is also known as the Cannon Valley Railroad.

The PGR branches are listed as follows:
 * Transload Industrial Park (Airlake Terminal Railway) - Lakeville, Minnesota
 * The "High Line" (a.k.a. Dan Patch Line) - Bloomington, Minnesota, Richfield, Minnesota, and Minneapolis, Minnesota. Service begins at Auto Club Yard in Bloomington and serves a variety of industries
 * The "Jesse James Line" - Northfield to Lakeville, leased CP Rail trackage
 * Northfield to Faribault, Minnesota via leased Union Pacific trackage
 * Northfield to Cannon Falls, Minnesota, with service to the Great Western Industrial Park in Randolph, Minnesota.
 * Eagandale Industrial line (Eagan, Minnesota) via leased CP Rail trackage (former Milwaukee Road)
 * Santa Cruz Branch Line - Davenport to Watsonville, California (operating with the Santa Cruz, Big Trees, and Pacific Railway as a subcontractor)

History
Headquartered in Lakeville, Minnesota (a southern suburb of Minneapolis-St. Paul), Progressive Rail, Inc. was established in 1996 to initially serve the Airlake Industrial Park. In 2001, they leased the former Minneapolis, Northfield and Southern Railway "High Line" in Bloomington and Richfield and started restoring trackage. The company's philosophy has been to provide service that a large railway chooses not to provide. They have also focused on economic development, including finding new customers, and working on regaining former rail customers along their lines. This strategy has paid off in an increase in traffic, from 600 carloads in their first year of operation to more than 5000 carloads in 2003.

Major commodities include resins, chemicals, fuels, lumber, gypsum board, cement, fly-ash, metals, paper, machinery, food and kindred products, scrap material, and consumer products.

Progressive Rail, Inc. also operates wholly owned subsidiary Progressive Rail Specialized Logistics, which provides rail logistics services for machinery and over-dimensional freight shippers.

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Harder/Fuller Films

Harder/Fuller Films, Inc. was a film and video production house based in Minneapolis, Minnesota from 1985 to 2005.

Run by founders (director) Phil Harder and (producer) Rick Fuller, the firm concentrated mainly on artistic work, such as music videos, and also commercial advertising.

Their high-quality products in the field earned them many awards, as well as the respect from their peers in the film and video industry.

Works
Harder/Fuller Films are known for their creative and groundbreaking approach.

They have produced music videos for Prince, Barenaked Ladies, Matchbox Twenty, Liz Phair, Low, Incubus, Foo Fighters, to name just a few.

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