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M. N. Vijayan

Moolayil Narayana Menon Vijayan, popularly known as Vijayan Mash (8 June 1930 – 3 October 2007) was an Indian academic, orator, columnist and writer of Malayalam literature. Known for his leftist ideals and oratorical skills, Vijayan was the president of the Purogamana Kala Sahitya Sangham (Progressive Association for Art and Letters) and served as the editor of Deshabhimani. He published a number of books of which Chithayile Velicham (The Light in the Pyre) received the Kerala Sahitya Akademi Award for Literary Criticism in 1982.

Biography
M. N. Vijayan was born on 8 June 1930 to Pathiyasseril Narayana Menon and Mooliyil Kochammu Amma at Lokamaleshwaram, a small village near Kodungallur in Thrissur district of the south Indian state of Kerala. His schooling was at Pathinettarayalam Lower Primary School and Government Boys High School Kodungallur after which he did his graduate and post-graduate studies at Maharaja's College, Ernakulam to earn a master's degree in Malayalam literature from the University of Madras. He also studied law at the Government Law College, Ernakulam and was associated with the Students Federation of India during his college days. He started his career in 1952 as a lecturer at The New College, Chennai and later moved to University College, Thiruvananthapuram, but his stay at Thiruvananthapuram was short. In 1960, he joined Brennen College, Thalassery as a member of faculty at its department of Malayalam and served the institution until his retirement from service in 1985.

Vijayan was married to Sharada and the couple had a son, V. S. Anilkumar, a writer and an academic working at Kannur University and two daughters, Sujatha Balachandran, a medical professional and Sunitha Rajagopal. He suffered a massive heart attack during a press conference at Thrissur Press Club on 3 October 2007 and though he was taken to Amala Institute of Medical Sciences, he died the same day, at the age of 77. His biography, written by K. Balakrishnan, was published by Kerala Bhasha Institute in 2015, on the 8th anniversary of Vijayan's death.

Political and journalism career
From 1960 to 1999 M. N. Vijayan stayed at Dharmadam, Thalassery. Vijayan worked as the editor of the cultural weekly Deshabhimani owned by the Communist Party of India (Marxist) (CPI(M)). He was President of Purogamana Kala Sahitya Sangham (Progressive Association for Art and Letters) and Adhinivesha Prathirodha Samithi (Council for Resisting Imperialist Globalisation), a leftist think-tank based in Kerala which collaborated with the CPI(M). He was removed as editor of Deshabhimani when leaders of the provincial Communist Party felt he did not adhere to the party line. He opposed the policy of some state level leaders and other leftist intellectuals to accept foreign funding of political work. He was also for a time the editor of the controversial periodical Padom, notably criticising a Kerala state government program called People's Campaign for Decentralised Planning (People's Plan) and its creator Thomas Isaac. Vijayan and Professor Sudheesh's articles in Padom against the "people's plan", a program aimed at decentralisation of power, became a controversial issue. Later a Kerala court ruled that the allegations of foreign funding of the Kerala Sasthra Sahithya Parishad (KSSP) had been proven by Sudheesh and Vijayan. Vijayan and Sudheesh had started Paatom in 2000, and started to attack on CPI(M)'s social democratic stands and attitude towards World Bank and IMF. He resigned from Purogamana Kala Sahithya Sangham as a result of a disagreement with M. A. Baby, then in charge of the CPI(M).

The cultural programme Manaveeyam of CPI(M)-led LDF government of Kerala was criticised for the extravagance of the programmes and the elitist audience to which the ps catered, and also for the fact that the "people's art and culture" gave way to bourgeois concepts under the influence of neoliberalism. Vijayan also led an ideological debate against social democratic deviations. When the leader of Kerala Shastra Sahitya Parishad (a pro-CPI(M) Science forum) M. P. Parameswaran went ahead with his "theory of the fourth world" campaign, it was alleged that a theory that had been opposed by the late ideologue of the party, E. M. S. Namboodiripad, was now being resurrected after his death. Vijayan and his followers resisted P. Govinda Pillai's controversial critical remarks against A. K. Gopalan, Namboodiripad and others on ideological grounds. Though, initially, CPI(M) leadership was forced to expel Parameswaran and Depromote Pillai from the state committee because of the high reputation that Vijayan enjoyed among the party supporters, writers and the literate, later the social democratic group got control over the CPI(M) organisation. There were similar attacks against other left-leaning intellectuals like Dr. B. Ekbal (leading to Ekbal's expulsion from CPI(M)) who were trying to re-examine the direction of left-wing politics in Kerala.

Vijayan did not attend many public meetings during his last years as a result of his ill health, but continued to write weekly columns in Samakalina Malayalam, an Indian Express group of publications, Janashakthi and Maruvakku. The column was originally published weekly in Deshabhimani until he parted ways with the paper. He was also the editor of the monthly Maruvaakku.

Writings
Most of Vijayan's publications are compilations of his speeches and He was considered to be a powerful orator. He used psychology, Marxism and social science as tools to analyse life and literature. Some prominent writers, including M. Krishnan Nair and Thinakkal Padmanabhan, have said that Vijayan's writings are difficult to understand, as he does not follow conventional grammatical structures. V. C. Sreejan criticizes Vijayan's style, arguing that it is densely figurative, hence vague and often meaningless. Vijayan was a pioneer of the use of psychological criticism in Malayalam literature, and influenced contemporary Kerala culture.

Vijayan's works were nominated on several occasions for literary awards, but in keeping with a general aversion to institutionalism, he rejected any state-sponsored awards that he won.

List of published works

 * Pradhirodhangal പ്രതിരോധങ്ങൾ (Resistances)
 * Kavithayum Manashastravum കവിതയും മനശാസ്ത്രവും (Poetry And Psychology)
 * Sheersasanam ശീർഷാസനം (Standing Upside Down)
 * Vaakkum Manassum (The Speech and The Thought)
 * Puthiya Varthamanangal (Latest News)
 * Noothana Lokangal നൂതന ലോകങ്ങൾ (New Worlds)
 * M.N. Vijayante Prabhashanangal എം.എൻ. വിജയന്റെ പ്രഭാഷണങ്ങൾ (M.N. Vijayan's Speeches)
 * Samskaravum Swathanthriavum സംസ്കാരവും സ്വാതന്ത്ര്യവും (The Culture and the Freedom)
 * Pradhirodhangal പ്രതിരോധങ്ങൾ (Resistances)
 * Kavithayum Manashastravum കവിതയും മനശാസ്ത്രവും (Poetry And Psychology)
 * Sheersasanam ശീർഷാസനം (Standing Upside Down)
 * Vaakkum Manassum (The Speech and The Thought)
 * Puthiya Varthamanangal (Latest News)
 * Noothana Lokangal നൂതന ലോകങ്ങൾ (New Worlds)
 * M.N. Vijayante Prabhashanangal എം.എൻ. വിജയന്റെ പ്രഭാഷണങ്ങൾ (M.N. Vijayan's Speeches)
 * Samskaravum Swathanthriavum സംസ്കാരവും സ്വാതന്ത്ര്യവും (The Culture and the Freedom)
 * Pradhirodhangal പ്രതിരോധങ്ങൾ (Resistances)
 * Kavithayum Manashastravum കവിതയും മനശാസ്ത്രവും (Poetry And Psychology)
 * Sheersasanam ശീർഷാസനം (Standing Upside Down)
 * Vaakkum Manassum (The Speech and The Thought)
 * Puthiya Varthamanangal (Latest News)
 * Noothana Lokangal നൂതന ലോകങ്ങൾ (New Worlds)
 * M.N. Vijayante Prabhashanangal എം.എൻ. വിജയന്റെ പ്രഭാഷണങ്ങൾ (M.N. Vijayan's Speeches)
 * Samskaravum Swathanthriavum സംസ്കാരവും സ്വാതന്ത്ര്യവും (The Culture and the Freedom)
 * Pradhirodhangal പ്രതിരോധങ്ങൾ (Resistances)
 * Kavithayum Manashastravum കവിതയും മനശാസ്ത്രവും (Poetry And Psychology)
 * Sheersasanam ശീർഷാസനം (Standing Upside Down)
 * Vaakkum Manassum (The Speech and The Thought)
 * Puthiya Varthamanangal (Latest News)
 * Noothana Lokangal നൂതന ലോകങ്ങൾ (New Worlds)
 * M.N. Vijayante Prabhashanangal എം.എൻ. വിജയന്റെ പ്രഭാഷണങ്ങൾ (M.N. Vijayan's Speeches)
 * Samskaravum Swathanthriavum സംസ്കാരവും സ്വാതന്ത്ര്യവും (The Culture and the Freedom)
 * Noothana Lokangal നൂതന ലോകങ്ങൾ (New Worlds)
 * M.N. Vijayante Prabhashanangal എം.എൻ. വിജയന്റെ പ്രഭാഷണങ്ങൾ (M.N. Vijayan's Speeches)
 * Samskaravum Swathanthriavum സംസ്കാരവും സ്വാതന്ത്ര്യവും (The Culture and the Freedom)

Intellectual mentor and counselor
Though not a qualified medical practitioner, Vijayan worked for many years as a pro bono counsellor, using Freudian techniques. Many writers, intellectuals, journalists and political activists have described him as an intellectual mentor. The November 2007 issue of Samayam Masika was devoted to articles by a variety of public figures about Vijayan and his influence, both on them personally and upon others, including M. T. Vasudevan Nair (writer, film director, Jnanpith Award winner), N. Prabhakaran (writer, academic), Mohanan Cherukadu (writer), Appukkuttan Vallikkunnu (journalist), P. Surendran (writer), Dr. Abdul Azeez (Doctor), Kunhappa Pattanoor (poet), Umesh Babu K.C. (Poet and political activist), A. V. Pavitran (writer), Anil Kumar A. V. (journalist, political activist), Vatsalan Vatuseeri (writer), Prabhakaran Pazhassi (writer, Professor), Choorayi Chandran (Political activist, Educationalist), N. Shasidharan (writer).

His studies on Vailoppilli, a well known Malayalam poet, and especially the poems "Mampazham" and "Sahyante makan", using Freudian techniques attained wide acclaim. He was a staunch critic of communal organisations and he used a significant part of his oratory and writings to back Communist Party of India (Marx) in their ideological and material resistance against the invasion of fascist forces with venomous separatist aims in Tellicherry and Kerala. M.N.Vijayan, his wife and his residence at Dharmadam, Thalassey, provided a haven for people who faced psychological problems. With utmost affection Vijayan mash and his wife served them. He is the general editor of Nammute Sahityam Nammute Samooham (Our Society Our Literature), a four volume research book on literature and society of Kerala.

Vijayan became a mentor for many writers, leftist politicians and journalists. He was a critic of NGOs like Kerala Sasthra Sahithya Parishad which polluted the sensibilities of Malayalees. Vijayan died while he was addressing a press conference in Thrissur, explaining how non- governmentally funded organisations like Kerala Sasthra Sahithya Parishad function in Kerala, camouflaging their imperialist agenda by wearing a leftist mask. Parishath and its activities lost credibility when Ernakulam Chief Judicial Magistrate dismissed the defamation case filed against Paatom, a magazine which exposed the fishy trails of such organisations. "You are selling your credibility... It is hijacking democracy ...", Vijayan said about Parishath and its supporters in the last press conference. Thrissur Current Books and Akam Samithi Thalassey published the early works of M.N.Vijayan. Thrissur Current Books published the Complete Works of M.N. Vijayan in ten volumes under different titles, like literature, politics, culture, interviews, speeches, biography, memoirs, etc. The first M.N.Vijayan library was inaugurated at Kannur. Govt. Brennen College Malayalam department has constituted the M.N.Vijayan endowment in 2010 for outstanding students of Malayalam literature.

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The result of the debate was delete. Nufy8 04:52, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

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The Source is a game-related forum that broke away from another forum because the first forum was too heavily moderated. The site itself says there are fewer than 500 members. The Alexa ranking is 2,968,906. I don't think this has much impact beyond its core usergroup. Joyous (talk) 23:13, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
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Is This Goodbye, Charlie Brown?

Is This Goodbye, Charlie Brown? is the 24th prime-time animated television special based upon the comic strip Peanuts, by Charles M. Schulz. It was originally aired on the CBS network on February 21, 1983. In the special, Charlie Brown tries to cope with learning that Linus and Lucy are moving away. The special is adapted from a storyline from the comic strip that lasted from May 9 to May 21, 1966.

Plot
This special begins when Linus calls the Brown house, and Sally picks up. She gets very excited that her Sweet Babboo is on the other line. He declines that he is that, and tries to ask if Charlie Brown is home, but while he is doing so, she asks if he called to ask her to a movie. He gets furious, and yells at her, saying, he won't be taking her to a movie, and wants to talk to her brother. She misinterprets that, and tells him she will be waiting outside for him to pick her up. She gives the phone to Charlie Brown.

Linus tells Charlie Brown he has something important to tell him and that he will be over right away. When he arrives, he tells Charlie Brown they will have to move, due to his father's job transfer. He is shocked to hear this.

Lucy then goes to Schroeder to tell him the same thing Linus told Charlie Brown, and gives him a picture of her so he will always remember her. He says "But what if I want to forget you, and turn it around?" She does this, and Schroeder panics that it is double-sided.

Charlie Brown then sadly watches the "Sam's Moving" movers take the Van Pelts' things, and load it into their trucks. He then goes to Lucy's psychiatry booth, and tells her he will be miserable without Linus. She yells at him, and reminds him that she is also leaving. She shows him the booth's new owner Snoopy, who has changed its cost on the sign from 5 cents to 50 cents (presumably more than Charlie Brown's allowance). Linus tells Charlie Brown that he is playing his last baseball game with him later on.

Lucy then walks over to the Brown house, and finds Sally waiting out in front, saying she is waiting for Linus to take her to the movie. Lucy tells her that they are moving, so he won't pick her up, but she doesn't believe this.

Linus then invites Charlie Brown to his and Lucy's going away party. He asks Sally if she wants to come, but she insists that Linus is going to pick her up and take her to a movie. The van Pelts' going away party is catered by Snoopy, who feeds everyone dog biscuits, and dog food with water causing everyone to leave disgusted.

The next day, Linus and Lucy say their sad goodbyes to Charlie Brown. As they are pulling out, Linus throws Snoopy his security blanket, as a way to remember him. After the van Pelts leave, Charlie Brown sadly walks home. When Charlie Brown gets home, Sally is sitting on the porch, still waiting for Linus to take her to a movie. Charlie Brown tells her that he and his family moved away. She angrily walks inside. Then, Schroeder comes by to ask where Lucy is, and Charlie Brown tells him that she and her family moved away. He says that he thought she was kidding, then grows upset and says, "I never got to say goodbye." In a later scene, Schroeder is playing the piano with the musical staff above him, and her head appears between the treble and bass staff. When he notices, he stops playing and says to the camera: "Don't tell me I've grown accustomed to that face."

The next day, Charlie Brown tells Peppermint Patty, that he is upset over Linus' moving away. She tells Marcie that they have to help him get over his sadness. Marcie asks her if she likes him, and she naturally declines it. She walks home trying to convince herself that she couldn't like a loser like him.

That night while Patty is trying to sleep, she thinks Charlie Brown is probably feeling bad for himself, and decides to call him to make him feel better. When she calls him, Charlie Brown is so tired that he doesn't seem to be listening to what Peppermint Patty is saying. She invites him on a date to the movies, but makes it seem as if Charlie Brown is asking her instead. She says she would go with him to a movie, then hangs up, and goes to sleep feeling good about herself. Charlie Brown then suddenly wakes up and wonders what he was doing by the phone, thinking he just dreamt he was talking to Peppermint Patty.

The next day, Peppermint Patty is waiting for Charlie Brown to pick her up for their date. Marcie goes to him at the wall, and asks why he looks so tired. He tells her that for some strange reason, he woke up at midnight by the phone, after dreaming he spoke to Peppermint Patty. She realizes what is happening, and tells Peppermint Patty that he's not coming. She doesn't believe her and continues to wait.

Later that day, Peppermint Patty calls Charlie Brown because she is angry that he didn't show up for their date. She continues to bother him, but says she won't take revenge on him, and when they hang up, he says, "I never know what's going on." Sally expects a phone call from Linus, and Charlie Brown reminds her that Linus moved, and that even if he was still here, he wouldn't be calling her. Charlie Brown then shows her a postcard from him which only reads about her: "Have you seen any good movies lately?"

Charlie Brown notices moving trucks in front of the van Pelt house again. He looks to see what is going on, and he is excited to find Linus. He tells him his father didn't like his new job and they are moving back. Just then, Lucy gets out of the car and says, "What kind of a neighborhood is this? It didn't change a bit while we were gone," to which Linus says, "Oh yeah. She's back too," before Snoopy throws Linus his security blanket back ending the film.

Voice actors
Patty, Roy, Pig-Pen, Violet, and Shermy have silent roles.
 * Brad Kesten as Charlie Brown
 * Jeremy Schoenberg as Linus van Pelt
 * Angela Lee as Lucy van Pelt
 * Stacy Heather Tolkin as Sally Brown
 * Bill Melendez as Snoopy and Woodstock
 * Kevin Brando as Schroeder and Franklin
 * Victoria Vargas as Peppermint Patty
 * Michael Dockery as Marcie

Home media
The special was released on VHS by Hi-Tops Video in 1987 and Paramount Home Video on June 25, 1996. It was released for the first time on DVD alongside Charlie Brown's Christmas Tales as a CVS Pharmacy Exclusive offer on November 3, 2009, and then solicited to the wider market in 2010. It was re-released as part of the box set Snoopy's Holiday Collection on October 1, 2013.

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The Two Mouseketeers

The Two Mouseketeers is a 1952 American one-reel animated cartoon and is the 65th Tom and Jerry short, produced in Technicolor and released to theatres on March 15, 1952 by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. It was produced by Fred Quimby and directed by William Hanna and Joseph Barbera. The short is a spoof of Alexandre Dumas' 1844 novel The Three Musketeers and its film adaptations, featuring the mice Jerry and his best friend, Nibbles as the "Mouseketeers" trying to raid the French king's banquet table, which is protected by Tom as a guard. Three years after the cartoon's release, the term "Mousketeer" was also used to refer to the child cast members of the television show, The Mickey Mouse Club.

The cartoon was animated by Ed Barge, Kenneth Muse and Irven Spence. Musical supervision was done by Scott Bradley, using a version of the theme music by Nelson Eddy and the Sportsmen Quartet named "Soldier of Fortune", from the film The Girl of the Golden West. The character of Nibbles speaks French in this short and was voiced by six-year-old Francoise Brun-Cottan.

The Two Mouseketeers won the series' sixth Oscar for Best Animated Short Film. Such was the cartoon's success, that Hanna and Barbera created a total of four adventures in the Mouseketeers series; the second, 1954's Touché, Pussy Cat! received an Oscar nomination. The third, Tom and Chérie, followed in 1955, and Royal Cat Nap in 1958. The premise was also featured in comic books from Dell Comics.

Plot
In 17th century Paris, Mouseketeers Jerry and Nibbles decide to help themselves to a lavish royal banquet. Tom, in the service of Captaine Rochefort, has been ordered to guard the spread from the King's Mouseketeers with his life, under threat of execution by guillotine if he fails. Jerry and Nibbles enter the castle hall through a stained-glass window. Jerry releases the rear-end cover on a suit of armor, making a small drawbridge to the windowsill. They sneak into the armor, emerge from the helmet's visor and then parachute onto the table.

Jerry lands first, followed by Nibbles who lands on a roasted warthog's mouth, causing him to get stuck. Jerry pulls Nibbles out of its mouth. Afterwards, Nibbles goes inside a big block of cheese, pretending it is a tower with only a few floors. Nibbles waves to Jerry on the top-floor but loses his balance and he falls on an unopened banana, which opens and shoots into Jerry's mouth, causing the brown mouse's body to become banana-shaped. They then unwittingly catch Tom's attention by showering him with champagne after trying to open the cork with the roasted pig's tail. After hiding from Tom by wearing white paper decorations from the standing rib roast to look like two ribs, Jerry runs off, but little Nibbles begins making a ham sandwich while singing "Alouette" to himself. Tom sneaks up behind him and pokes him with his rapier, and the angry Nibbles yells in protest before realizing he is in danger.

But before he can get away, Tom captures him by putting his rapier through Nibbles's tabard. Failing to escape, Nibbles greets him. Jerry manages to stab Tom in the rear-end to rescue Nibbles, and throws a custard in Tom's face for good measure. A sword fight then ensues, ending with Tom catching Jerry. Nibbles tips a halberd toward Tom and it shaves the tabard and all the fur off the cat's back from head to hind end, revealing a ruffled white underwear.

Nibbles runs away, but is sent flying by Tom into a full wine glass – but Jerry saves him by hurling a tomato at Tom, followed by multiple vegetables and meat chunks. After impaling them all on his rapier, Tom then heats and eats them like a shish kebab. Nibbles, now drunk, climbs out of the glass. He pokes Tom in the rear-end, making him yowl and jump up in pain, as Nibbles waves his sword, yelling: "Touché, pussycat!" But as he runs away, Tom catches him. Jerry makes the save by hitting Tom on the head with a mace so hard that the cat falls through the table, before having another swordfight between Tom and Jerry. While this goes on, Nibbles brings along a cannon and stuffs it with everything on the banquet table. Just as Tom catches Jerry, Nibbles lights the cannon and it violently explodes.

As the smoke disappears, Jerry and Nibbles are seen walking triumphantly down the street with some of the stolen banquet food. Suddenly, they look up and see a guillotine in the distance, while hearing a drum roll, the blade rises up and comes down, suggesting that Tom has been executed, although off-screen, in order to comply with the Hays Code. Both mice gulp, and Nibbles sighs: "Pauvre, pauvre pussycat." Then he shrugs, saying: "C'est la guerre!" After that, the two Mouseketeers continue their victory march.

Production

 * Directed by William Hanna and Joseph Barbera
 * Animation by Ed Barge, Kenneth Muse, and Irven Spence
 * Layouts by Dick Bickenbach
 * Music by Scott Bradley
 * Produced by Fred Quimby

Voice cast (uncredited)

 * William Hanna as Tom, Jerry and Captaine Rochefort
 * Francoise Brun-Cottan as Toodles (or Nibbles)

Availability
DVD
 * Tom and Jerry's Greatest Chases, Vol. 3
 * Tom and Jerry Spotlight Collection Vol. 1, Disc Two
 * Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Academy Awards Animation Collection: 15 Winners (restored)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Llandrew

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. I suppose there's no harm in the redirect, so I'll create it (after deletion) especially as it had full support once it was suggested. -Splash 02:40, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Llandrew
Delete Doesn't warrant own article - and I am a Star Trek fan PhilipO 23:16, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep harmless DV8 2XL 23:24, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. DES (talk) 23:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn fancruft and POV to boot. Soltak | Talk 23:32, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Misspelling of "Landru", see The Return of the Archons Zeimusu | Talk page 23:38, 2005 August 31 (UTC)
 * Delete, and leave a redirect to The Return of the Archons. Proto t c 10:27, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete A 'baddy' that Jim talks to death, how original. And redirect per Zeimusu and Proto. Alf melmac 12:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Talk:Interstate 235 (Oklahoma)

it seems odd to mention "Interstate 235 in Oklahoma officially finished a major reconstruction in September 2008, which changed the section of I-235 between N.W. 50th Street on the North end and N.W. 23rd on the South end. It added a third lane and an exit lane, changing the two-lane stretch into four lanes." as if it was the entire project, it is only a small part of the effort to widen it all the way to Edmond, which includes work done years ago on Broadway extension and the upcoming work at the interchange with i44 between the two segments mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.162.247.51 (talk) 03:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The Broadway Extension isn't part of I-235; that work should be mentioned in U.S. Route 77 in Oklahoma instead. That said this article is in need of expansion; I'll see what I can do to find sources and work that into the article as I expand it. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 02:35, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

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Talk:Henri Mouhot

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I just saw that 146.115.115.243 messed up the page so badly it was FUBAR, and also changed "Ongcor" into "Angkor Watt" -- thereby modifying what was supposed to be a direct quote from Henri Mouhot's own writings, and mixing up Angkor from Angkor Watt - 2 very different things! '''== BAD MOVE!! =='''

Please refrain from modifyng this article if you don't know what you're doing. --

Thanks for your added information and correction of the stupid Eurocentric formulation, 212.247.27.124! I've removed this passage, though:
 * "While Henri is historically credited with "discovering" Angkor (as Columbus is with "discovering" America), local Cambodians had always known about the existence and location of Ankor -- it was never lost to them."

It's a good point, but this talk page is the place for it, not the article itself. Bishonen | talk 23:17, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I've updated it some more, to reinsert what I consider to be very important information´relevant to Henri Mouhot, but hopefully this time it comes across as more detached and less argumentative. --

Just went on a tour to Cambodia, went to Angkor Wat of course. My tour guide told us that Henri was beat to death.....because of angry locals. He shipped statues and parts to France for them to preserve/keep in museums and the like, and they didn't like him shipping everything off. Therefore the beat to death thing. I don't find it too credible, as my tour guide might have heard it from childhood stories. Anyone able to investigate? I'm probably wasting people's time. 61.231.54.120 (talk) 12:29, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Copyright Infringment
Much of the text of this article is identical to that of a copyrighted non-WP article, and the author thereof has complained that WP has violated his rights. http://www.zakkeith.com/articles,blogs,forums/Henri-Mouhot-Angkor.htm I am being polite but this approach is a blatant violation of WP standards.

I also find it curious that this article states, without citation, that "Father Bouillevaux published his accounts in 1857: "Travel in Indochina 1848–1846, The Annam and Cambodia" Rather unique in the history of publishing that the first-menitoned year is later than the second-mentioned.  Given that the book was published in 1857, one might deduce that the second-mentioned year ought be 1856 rather than 1846. Perhaps I am wrong on this but the internet is now so crowded with sites that have lifted the WP text that the seeming error is now ubiquitous on the net. I cannot yet find a reference to this book by any year.

SteveO1951 (talk) 21:14, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. Not sure how to do this. I noted that the date of the image of the "Facade of Angkor Wat" is dated 1855, while Mouhot supposedly only arrived in Bangkok in 1858. The other image is dated 1859. Hopefully someone who has access to the original book can see if the dates should both be 1859 or at least something else besides 1855. Thanks. Walterkem (talk) 01:40, 25 December 2011 (UTC)walterkem. 20111224 1938 CST.

pronunciation of his name
Can someone with French language experience add this? ~ Alcmaeonid (talk) 00:38, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

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Portuguese monk Antonio da Magdalena had also written about his visit to Angkor Wat in 1586.
And he said that locals told them Angkor Wat was built by foreigners. How come this is not considered a lost city? MTha8456 (talk) 09:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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User talk:Robchurch/August 2005

WP:MIND
Hello, Rob Church! Thanks for the kind words. As for Mind Benders, all you have to do is to click the "Answer this question" link below each question, type in a subject heading (something like "Rob's answer"), and type your answer and explanation in. Right now, all but two questions have been answered correctly, so when you submit your answer, you will automatically be able to view the correct response (other people's answers). Welcome to Wikipedia, and happy editing! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 17:47, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the barnstar! Don't worry, I moved it from my user page to talk page. You didn't mess up anything- my user page is actually quite sloppy, and I've been meaning to reorganize it for quite a while. Anyways, just a quick favor to ask of you- could you sign with the four tildes ( ~ ) on the barnstar on the talk page? Thanks a lot! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 18:11, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 18:19, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Please do no vandalise the Natalee Holloway page. This is your official warning. The next time you do it, you will be permabanned. (Unsigned comment by BunkyBoopy.

 * As I recall, you are the one vandalising that article. Rob Church 03:22, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Robchurch: thanks for doing your part to keep Wikipedia clean.. is either seriously confused or  just writing nonsense.. he has recently posted bogus vandalism warnings to people reverting his vandalism for vandalism, including you, me, and Malathion. Mysidia 03:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the thanks. I didn't really take any notice of him. Rob Church 03:42, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Reversion and revulsion
Thanks for nabbing the page vandal. I instituted a 2 hr block on him (the homophobia suggests a male vandal) because he's using an AOL IP, and we get into a world of pain if we block for long on any of those. Geogre 21:25, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

WP:RFAr
I have signed the RfAr myself and made some very minor changes to wording. Since the changes were to the section you signed, I am bringing them to your attention so that you may remove them if you feel they change the meaning of the statement in such a way that it no longer reflects your views. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 18:56, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

IRC Conference
Previous meeting was at Monday, August 8th at 11:30 PM BST. That is, 10:30 PM GMT and 6:30 EDT. Please sign below if you plan on attending or need a time change:

 * 1) Nicholas Turnbull: NicholasTurnbull 16:19, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Phroziac: Phroziac (talk) 22:05, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Phroziac has a quickie oral surgeon appointment 2 hours and 30 minutes before the meeting, and MAY miss it or be late, though it is unlikely..
 * That's tomorrow. duh. --Phroziac (talk) 16:32, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Rob Church: Rob Church 14:59, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Uncle Ed: Uncle Ed 13:11, August 6, 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Uninvited Company:

kmccoy's RFA
Hey, Rob,

Thanks for your support on my RFA. Yours was the last vote, which I'm sure is important somehow. :) kmccoy (talk) 23:22, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Merit
Hi Robchurch, I was not testing Media when you removed it. I was wikifying and reformatting the article and was about to preview the changes, when all of a sudden, it disappeared and I was wondering what happened after I spend a considerate amount of time, trying to get the alignment right. As a matter of fact, new as I am to Wikipedia, I have contributed 5 articles and had edited more than 20 articles so far. Anyway, thanks for your message. PM Poon 05:25, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Merit
No problem, Robchurch. I was just trying to give my two-cents worth. As you can see, I am a registered member and not a vandal, LOL. PM Poon 14:39, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Barnstars - to return the favour!
Dear Rob,

Firstly, may I thank you very much for your generous awards on my talk page - and since you don't have any barnstars yet yourself, I thought I would return the complement!

Barnstars moved to user page.

All the best,

NicholasTurnbull 02:05, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Speedy tags
Please do not place speedy delete tags on articles which do not meet the criteria, such as Saginaw Valley Lutheran High School. Kappa 05:04, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Merit
Thanks, Robchurch. I didn't realize that even registered members vandalized! Anyway, did my attempt to improve the article smacks like vandalism? PM Poon 06:27, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Knowing one's rouge from one's rogue
Well, you're not an admin (yet), I guess, so I can't quite give you the new award, but I highly recommend it for those administrators who are true Rouge Administrators. The way I figure it, a Rouge Administrator is the sort who oppresses people who can't spell well enough or take enough time in writing articles to proofread what they've done. In other words, I am proud enough to be a Rouge Administrator that I came up with the following badge. Geogre 03:00, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't hate you
Hi, would you please be patient with me read this through? Thanks. ^^;;

I don't hate you. You did something stupid yesterday, imo, true, and yes, I was very angry. I got angrier yet when I considered maybe you'd try the same with Ed Poor.

I'd like to tell you now that I'm not angry at you anymore. I'd like to explain how so. I hope you'll read on, so I can explain why.

Now when you're angry at a person, you shout at them, because you care for them, and you're concerned about their behaviour. At some point you can get so angry you go right past that point, and you grow really really quiet on that person. I don't know why for sure. Maybe it's a natural instinct, so as not to tip them off to your impending revenge or so?

I got really quiet on you for a little while there.

But then Nicholas told me you're still fairly new. That did change matters.

I knew that what you'd done was A Bad Idea, and I was still angry, but less so, and I grew concerned. Like what if I didn't say anything to you, and you'd try something like that again? You might get yourself hurt. And I was still pretty worried if you'd try that kind of stuff on folks like Ed Poor. That, and while I'd come back from "the sharpening of knives", I was still pretty much in "high dudgeon".

So I decided to give you a mighty telling off. To put the "Fear Of God" in you. And by gum, that's what I did. And I hope it DID put the Fear Of God in you. (And that's all I'll say about the matter here, I shan't dredge it up further.) But maybe it put the Fear Of Kim in you too. :-(

The latter is an unintended consequence. :-( I probably said a few things more strongly than I intended to as well.

Anyway: here's some things you should know:

 * I don't hate you. It's always important to tell people that after telling them off, or they might get the wrong idea.
 * I'm not angry at you anymore, I told you off, and that's the end of it.
 * I'm not going to foldspindlemutilate you. Yes I told you that if you'd try something like that again on someone else, that you Might Get Hurt. I told you that so you understand that it's Not A Good Idea. I will never hurt you personally. (Or not any worse than telling you off ,anyway ^^;;)
 * I'm not going to follow you around or examine your edits more closely.
 * I (still) respect you. You're respected in the community, and that's enough for me. :-)

I told you off, and that's the end of it. I don't mind if you're angry or hate me for it, because I think I did the right thing. I hope you're not too angry back at me, but I don't know how I can help it if you are.

Thanks for reading this far.

If you'd like to do a postmortem or debriefing, I reccomend talking with NicholasT or Mindspillage, or someone you respect (and get that person to talk with Nicholas, Mindspillage, and/or me too). If you feel daring, you might even try contacting me on irc again too, I shan't bite your head off (a second time, at least).

Thank you for your time.

-- Kim Bruning 11:48, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

A Link to the Past
Hi, I never had any discussions with A Link to the Past, just deleted a blanking as I would delete any other form of vandalism I came across. If someone else talked with Link, please ask them about it. Pukachu 18:47, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry about accusing you of this, but he never provided a user name, and I assumed it was the reverter. -- A Link to the Past 18:55, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

RfA
Thank you for supporting my RfA. I will do my best to serve the Wikipedia community as an administrator. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 20:32, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

IRC Discussion
I am concerned that last night's discussion was unworthwhile and am hesitant to participate in further such discussions. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 19:09, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Sockpuppet
You left the follow edit comment: "Removed sockpuppet accusation as it is unfounded and placed by Dreamguy who causes hassle for anyone editing Vampire)". This is absolutely false. The charges were fully described and considered substantial by several people who placed the tag there besides myself. And your description of what is happening on the Vampire page is completely false, the only people I cause any "hassle" for (which is really just me trying to follow normal conflict resolution procedures while being attacked by peopple who clearly are not operating in good faith) are ones who do not work toward consensus at all and are trying to make false claims about why certain edits were made in the past... Many of them are clearly linked to sockpuppets (several of which were outright proven by IP trace and later admission of those involved). I think you are simply glimpsing at the situation and then taking the word of a couple of troublemaking editors (many of whom are currently blocked for proven bad behavior elsewhere) as if they had merit instead of taking the time to figure out what's really going on. DreamGuy 23:35, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

 * You wrote this on my talk page, among other things:
 * " I suggest that you avoid mindlessly accusing anyone of it "
 * I suggest you stop characterizing my claims as mindless accusations, as there is very strong evidence. Remember that so far, on every name that I have accused of being a sockpuppet that has been completely followed through and checked, I have been correct 5 out of 5 times that the individuals involved were, in fact, sockpuppets. Please see the User:Gabrielsimon case as well as User:Existentializer and his immediate followup sockpuppet (the spelling of whose name I forget). The User:Pukachu and User:Devilbat cases have many of the exact same signs, and other admins have agreed with me that their actions are suspicious. Perhaps you would like to call them all "mindless" as well? DreamGuy 02:16, August 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * And speaking of those "mindless accusations" -- David checked User:Pukachu and User:Devilbat and they were, in fact, sockpuppets of User:Existentializer. See [User talk:David Gerard#Sock Puppet Request.] DreamGuy 01:00, August 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * I am aware of this, having been in the IRC channel at the time it was announced. I maintain that I reacted as I saw fit at the time. I resent the attitude you take when communicating with me, and would urge a slight tone alteration. Congratulations. Rob Church Talk 01:03, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I am wrong here, but you inserted yourself into a conflict for which you did not research the issues beforehand (as being throughly discussed on the Administrator's Notceboard Incidents page), assumed I was acting in bad faith, responded uncivilly, continued to respond uncivilly when I pointed out the situation to you, learned that you were completely wrong in every particular, and then not only did not take the initiative to apologize but when the situation wad brought up again maintain that you did nothing wrong? I would suggest that you have more than a few things you need to work on yourself. DreamGuy 02:43, August 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, this is about to descend into a (polite, if nothing else) flamewar, so I suggest we agree to disagree. I may well have entered into the dispute without checking all the bases, and for that I can only apologise. Fortunately, you were proven correct, and as far as I can tell, the cause for the dispute has been resolved. If there are any further problems I've caused here, do let me know. Rob Church Talk 03:18, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Miguel de Cervantes Article
Robchurch: I happen to be "66.201.16.24" -- I am not vandalising the page in question; the fact of the matter is that I submitted an article on Cervantes, which I later decided to withdraw. I was intent on deleting all versions of my article found in the "history" page.

Thanks for your support
Thank you for voting to support my RFA. I've been promoted, and I promise to wield the mop with good faith, patience, and fairness... except when I'm exterminating vandals with the M-16 recoilless nuclear Gatling mop. --malathion talk 07:54, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Func's RfA :)
Thank you for supporting my RfA! :) Very much appreciated.

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Func( t, c, e, ) 18:44, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Wario
Wario.

Click the PR request. :3 -- A Link to the Past 22:29, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

I have now opened a new account in my other name Dore chakravarty. I am not sure whether it is correct? I could not get my password for my old name Dore chakravarthy.Probably my earlier actions were assumed as vandalism for my not observing some rules which were not clear to me as a new comer.Hence this new log in, in another name of mine for this purpose only.Please help me.

--Dore chakravarty 23:01, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Vandalism
Anyone who gets their user talk vandalised can't be all tooooo bad, I guess... :-/ Kim Bruning 01:17, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Heh! It's not the first time. Rob Church Talk 01:34, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

The Uninvited Co., Inc. 17:18, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

User:Robchurch#Jack Black Disambiguation
Hey, thanks, i think i mentioned you [wink] on Talk:Jack Black (disambiguation). [big smile] --Jerzy·t 21:10, 2005 August 11 (UTC)

_ _ [Sigh] I write like that too often, sorry. Yes, good, absolutely. _ _ "Mentioning you" meant that you were the tireless relinker that i was waiting for (but believing that they would have to be a bot-master; early in my WP career, i pretty much burned out in the effort to hand re-lk everything that lk'd to Battery.) _ _ I didn't anticipate yr thoroughness, so i was planning to add the results of my own less rigorous survey (i considered many as, from their titles, obviously meaning him, and visited only the rest, mostly the names of people); my goal was to ensure & document that every article still lk'd to Jack Black as of today could be re-lk'd to the actor by a bot w/o further attention, so only new ones would need inspection. You've brought us, quickly, to the stage of routine maint: anything left (non-articles don't generally count) is easy to spot as new, so getting newcomers unlk'd from the rdr is now light work. _ _ Sorry i was obtuse. --Jerzy·t 22:56, 2005 August 11 (UTC)

Earle K. Bergey
I noticed you placed a tag on the article above. Just so you know, I'm working my way through List of pinup artists creating articles on all the mid-century artists that don't already have one. In support of that, I use a template in my userspace that, for technical reasons, leaves a small amount of cleanup to be done. I always do the cleanup right away, so if you should happen to see me creating more articles, you probably won't need to do any cleanup if you wait a bit. Of course, if you want to contribute to the effort, I'd love the help. I think I've got about 80 artists to go, give or take... :-)

Ken talk 01:15, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

User:Rbirkby
It wasn't vandalism, I was piping the link so that his username appears under "R" in the user category rather than under "U". I actually do it all the time to people's user pages, it's just that this time I didn't leave a message explaining what I did. -- Francs2000 | Talk 01:16, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Hey no problem, can I put the piped link back now? -- Francs2000 | Talk [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px| ]] 01:19, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Sockpuppet
THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS. You have to find out WHICH ACCOUNT it's a sockpuppet OF!!! Sockpuppet'R'Us 01:53, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I added the template partly for humour. Of course, the account will be deleted soon enough. Rob Church Talk 01:54, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh. Well if the account gets deleted I won't really mind, but i thopught it could be fun... Sockpuppet'R'Us 02:06, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe the admins are fighting over which one gets to delete it as I type. Rob Church Talk 02:08, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

personal attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rfgdxm

Turnabout is fair play.

Eric Bobo
Please do not automatically assume I was making a VfD nomination in bad faith. In fact, the criteria for deletion clearly state that a hoax article =must= come before VfD, no matter how transparently fraudulent it is. Some administrators might make a long stretch and speedy it as vandalism, but that is really playing outside the rule book. I would suggest you review the criteria for deletion before you take another administrator to task for following procedures.

I refer you to this comment posted by Rossami on the speedy delete talk page: "I understand your concern. I also think that these "jokes" are a form of vandalism and that they harm the Wikipedia. Unfortunately, I think that allowing any admin to speedy-delete them immediately would do even greater harm. Five days on VfD (okay, 10-15 with the backlog) is not too high a price to pay for the articles which we do rescue. The VfD tag itself serves as a very clear notice to any reader who finds the article in the meantime that this is a page not yet to be trusted. Rossami (talk) 02:17, 15 August 2005 (UTC)"

Denni ☯ 01:27, 2005 August 15 (UTC)

 * No problem. I should have added a couple of words to my comment: "...with us". In other words, the author of the article was, well, having a little fun at Wikipedia's expense. But I can see how it could be misinterpreted. I guess your reaction to my comment about "another administrator" means you are not one yourself. I thought you were. Denni ☯ 23:04, 2005 August 24 (UTC)

Richard Stallmann
I try to avoid reverting edits that were clearly made in good faith, but in this case there were just too many mistakes. I know reading the entire Manual of Style or all revisions of the article is a bit much, so I'll try to explain a few things here: The format we use for people who are still alive is (born [full date]), not ([year] - ). The GNU GPL is by far the most frequently used free software license — there's plenty of evidence for that (freshmeat and sourceforge, for starters). The part about "being paid for around half of the speeches he gives" came from RMS himself (here), so that's about as good as a source can get. I'm not sure whether "a.k.a." is good style, but I don't see any evidence that he is "more commonly known as RMS" – as a matter of fact, I'm convinced that's not the case. Rl 13:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

My user page
Rob, thank you for keeping my user page clean. SlimVirgin (talk) 00:29, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Rob Church Talk 01:36, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Peer Review
Talk:Lakitu Yay! A Link to the Past (talk) 22:54, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Assistance Requested
Not sure what I am doing now is correct in referring this question to you at this page. Please excuse me. How can my write up on Thermal Power Stations can become an article in wiki? I have gone through the list of categories 1 and find that ther is no category as above. What next I have to do is not clear to me. Can u please guide me as my write up is still in my discussion page. []

--'''Dore chakravarty 23:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks you very much for the quick reply. It was very informative. Shall try to follow. However being a newcomer may face some hurdles. Thanks once again.

--Dore chakravarty 08:52, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

As suggested added a new page under article. Removed old page. Request checking whether it complies all your regulations. Trying to add some more links. Sorry for troubling you.

--Dore chakravarty 03:14, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

CODE
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on ^$*:HOTLINK:/[\{\}\[\]]{2}/:#,?,=:{ return }

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--Cool Cat My Talk 12:49, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Userfying WikiDefcon
I'm trying to see if there is support for userfying this page as a way of resolving the dispute between Cool Cat and the rest of us. Let me know what you think, on the talk page. Thanks! JesseW 18:41, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

File Pile, Second Vote for Deletion
FilePile is once more up for deletion. Your input would be appreciated. --tranquileye 12:56:44, 2005-08-26 (UTC)
 * The last VfD saw an overwhelming number of Delete votes, but the process itself was a train wreck that ended with an admin decision of no consensus. After further discussion and a RfC on the page, there developed a near consensus that the subject was non-notable and unverifiable, and the article was re-nominated. --tranquileye 16:21:38, 2005-08-26 (UTC)

MEDIATARY VfD
''Just to let you know you tagged the article for VfD and transcluded the subpage, but forgot to create the subpage itself giving reasons for nomination. I've done this on your behalf and guessed at the reason; perhaps if you'd care to comment? Rob Church Talk 02:39, 27 August 2005 (UTC)''
 * Woah, that's really weird. I remember looking at the subpage after creating it.  Maybe I mistakenly hit preview.  Thanks nonetheless.  -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 03:14, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

vandalbot chasing
You helped chase down that vandalbot! :-) Kim Bruning 18:58, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

barnstar
Hey, thanks! appreciate it! and keep up the good work yourself... it's making the Wiki a nicer place for all of us. :-) Antandrus (talk) 19:26, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

IRC and vandalbot
Come back on IRC. Our vandalbot friend is back. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 00:26, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

From i_sterbinski

 * We just would like to asure you that your words are exacly what we included in our report. Wikipedia is open project, therefore we had on mind that any post do not represent the whole Wikipedia.
 * The research was concerning strictly the issue of Macedonia and the users included in the edits. Exact numbers and information were used, all in favor of representing the reality of our expirience.
 * We beleive that our report was very objective, criticising the nationalistic aproach of many users (concerning this issue) and deffending Wikipedia as free and open project.
 * We would like to asure you that all our conclutions were including user names of some users and that we were constantly repeating that Wikipedia is free and open project.
 * Thank you for your interest,

I sterbinski 00:44, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Rob, please see Account suspensions and Requests for comment/I sterbinski. --Uncle Ed 11:03, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

More Assistance Requested
I saved the artcle in TWO parts. But i find that the search indicates my USER Name and not the name of my artcle Thermal Power Station Cannot make out how? I have done something wrong. Can you please explain where I have gone wrong? Sorry to trouble u frequently. --Dore chakravarty 02:02, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

reverting against personal attack reverting
Could you explain why you are currently reverting against personal attacks revertion on Talk:Bogdanov Affair ? --YBM 03:42, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Please, read what you revert before reverting it. Or have a look sometime to WP:AN --YBM 04:12, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

hacked gibson
Oh no, im so sorry i didnt mean to hack into wikipedia. Im very sorry please tell the authoriteis to not come to my house please my mom is here, im SO SORRY for haxxing your gibson, it was accidental and i dunno how i did it plzz help!

Thanks a lot. I would prefer to keep the article that I have made in two parts. Can u get at these artcles? or you want me to send them to u? If so how? Totally helpless.ink given to assist you please. []

--Dore chakravarty 04:04, 28 August 2005 (UTC) --222.153.156.22 04:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Cape May-Lewes Ferry
I acknowledge the fact that I used the rollback button, but I see this as a reversion, and not an invocation of my abilities. That's why I only did it once. --Merovingian (t) (c) 15:44, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

 * I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks,  --Merovingian (t) (c) 15:47, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Anouk
Hi, thanks for helping out with the article on Anouk! I ran into the stub somewhere and saw that someone asked for a translation from Dutch. And next thing I knew, my sometimes awkward translation was transformed into something quite readable, thank you! :-) --JoanneB 17:35, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I noticed just now that you changed everything to Anouk Teeuwe. I'm not so sure about that, as far as I know she's not known by her first name, it's a bit like Madonna. --JoanneB 17:43, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --JoanneB 17:51, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Negligible
'Negigible' is an adjective. Therefore, I am not sure as to whether it should have its own category on WP/. 'Negligibility' is a noun and maybe this is what the category should be with 'negligible' linking to it. I am willing to be persuaded otherwise. Light current 19:44, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Negligible/negigibility
Yes, I do agree with you that these are better placed on Wikionary. But I was waiting for you to suggest it! ;-) Light current 19:56, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup
Hi what do you want me to cleanup on Death_and_the_Maiden_song? Am I allowed to upload a MIDI file to put it more in context?

please respond

neilgravir

Sun-Pat
Hi there. I noticed you edited the newly created Sun-Pat article recently. I would like to know how you "added a little more info" by removing some of the information that was there, and not adding any in your edit at all. I would also like to know why you removed the UK-stub tag, as it is relevant. Furthermore, the edits to the "External link" heading were incorrect. The word "link" should be in lowercase, in line with other articles, and it should not be pluralised when there is only one link present. In view of this, I have reverted your edits. --Daniel Lawrence 20:43, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

is shakespeare born in china
Hi, Shakespeare was born in china, i have proof !!! ;- --- Thanks very much for recovering the old article and sending it to me. Shall now try as suggested and report.What about the User page shown under THERMAL POWER STATIONS. Can it be deleted? If so can u delete as it is useless.

--222.153.156.22 21:47, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

--222.153.156.22 21:49, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Smallville
I would like to thank you for telling me what I was doing in the manner that you did. I have been making alot of mistakes with this site in the past. I guess I'll just have to be more careful next time.

BB

My RfA
Well, you know, I haven't seen you around often. What types of articles do you edit? (I've only seen you on IRC) --WikiFan04Talk 18:16, 28 Aug 2005 (CDT)

Thermal Power Plant
Above is my note under User twice. Do not know why it did not print my name. Any how I have saved my reedited artcle Part one and saved in the artcle as suggested. Please see whether it has the reqired results in articles. Advise also how to remove the User artcle in my name and also suggest how to save my second PartTwo now. I do not want to meddle doing experiments and waste your precious time as well. Thnking once again, --Dore chakravarty 01:39, 29 August 2005 (UTC) --Dore chakravarty 01:39, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Tobacco Worm/Tomatoe Worm
Dear Rob,

Thank you so much for the work you did on "Tobacco Worm". I have since learned that the Tobacco worm and the Tomatoe worm are different species. I have changed the name of the suggested article from "Tobacco Worm" to "Tomatoe Worm" and added a few words from my own knowlege. I see that you are a young man doing good things. God bless you. I am an old man, (87) and trying to keep going. Please dress up "Tomatoe Worm" when you get a chance.

Sincerely    Alison Phillips

Anglo-Saxons
You might want to go back and read the content you reverted into Anglo-Saxons - [diff]. --GraemeL (talk) 16:09, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Addressed this. Rob Church Talk 16:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Weasley family
Greetings! I noticed you changed the caption under the image of the Weasley family photo to say that it does not include Charles Weasley. It's been a little while since I've seen that film, so I can't remember the scene in which that photo is shown. But I'm a little confused--there are 9 people in the photo (and nine Weasleys), so if Charles Weasley isn't in it, who is the 9th person? GinaDana 16:47, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Responded on your talk page. Rob Church Talk 16:52, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry--I made a mistake. I read the edit summary and got confused, without taking the time to actually look at the page edit.  Nevermind! GinaDana 16:54, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Lara language and other constructed languages
Hi! Since you voted in the VfD on Lara language, I'd like to urge you to check out the Conlangs/Votes page, where an attempt is made to create general criteria for inclusion of constructed languages. The trouble is that the discussion seems to be dominated by conlang enthusiasts, with a rather limited grasp of the concept of notability, as generally defined on Wikipedia. In my opinion, for a language to be notable it needs to have an impact on the world outside the home of its creator (i.e. having a significant and verifiable number of fluent speakers and/or being the subject of a rather extensive professional discussion, preferrably in printed media). However, the vote might very well end up with any language with X number of words, or even "a unique script"(!), being deemed worthy of a Wikipedia article. If this sounds like a bad idea to you, please take a look at the vote. / Alarm 17:12, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Signature
Rob:

I hope you don't mind I stole your signature template to create mine. I just like its simplicity and functionality... :) Thanks!

--Sebastian Kessel Talk 20:11, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Hey, just giving credit when credit is due. :) --Sebastian Kessel Talk 22:04, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!
Thanks for the kind welcome, Robchurch. As you may have noted from my user: page, I've actually been around Wikipedia for a while, just never particularly active; too many other fish to fry to devote the time that I'd need to to make a heavy-weight contirubtion, so I controbute where I feel I have unique input, which places are few and far between ;-).

Anyway, thanks again;

Cori.schlegel 04:33, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the revert on my user page! Wikipedianinthehouse 04:47, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Jtkiefer's RFA
Thanks for your support on my RFA. Jtkiefer T - 04:54, August 30, 2005 (UTC) -- Thermal Power Station Now I have saved my reedited artcle Part one and saved in the artcle as suggested. Please see whether it has the reqired results in articles. Advise also how to remove the User artcle in my name and also suggest how to save my second PartTwo now. I do not want to meddle doing experiments and waste your precious time as well. Today I have added another article on Deaerator [].I have not seen my name in the article list on Thermal Power Stations so far. Can you please identify where I have gone wrong? Can only bank your help please. Thnking once again. --222.153.156.22 03:27, 31 August 2005 (UTC) - Thanks very much for your suggestions. I have to learn a lot more as suggested. One point to be seen here is that the article Thermal Power Station now existing gives only the theoretical background and not the actual one in a utility, as mine. However to avoid repetition of title (WIKI indicated no paper exists) I suggest mine to be as UTILITY POWER PLANT (AS EXISTING).Cannot refer to particular Model of any maker because it may mean advertising theirs. I will see how to improve the get up  Manual of  Style. On deaerator article also it has been commented as stub by somebody else and I shall look into it. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR HELPING ME.

--Dore chakravarty 20:42, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

title: User talk:Robchurch/August 2005


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Talk:Apricot

Bad attribution
In note 19, it is stated that the note about Hardouin has something to do with Bill Thayer; it doesn't. See the bottom of the linked page; the site, and the note, is by James Eason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.6.157 (talk) 13:37, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Not anymore it doesn't. I fixed it [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Apricot&diff=668753280&oldid=668605334 about a day] after you brought up that concern. Graham 87 14:08, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Edit request: language link
The link to the German Wikipedia article "Aprikose" is missing. Can someone more technically gifted than me activate the link? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.171.164 (talk) 20:47, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It's attached to the English article Prunus armeniaca because the German Wikipedia doesn't have a stand-alone article about the species; its page covers both the species and the fruit/tree. Graham 87 05:55, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

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USA production and acreage
This addition is not justified by WP:WEIGHT because the US is a minor producer, as shown in the FAO 2020 production table here (see ref. 14 for pick list choices) and by the list of countries by apricot production. - this USDA-related source was the type of US production data needed, but American acreage and production are too minor to highlight with its own section or to even mention. In 2020, the US had only 3586 ha under cultivation and only 30,299 tonnes - official FAO data (compare to countries in the article table). Zefr (talk) 02:49, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * What does due weight have to do with US production? Due weight is about coverage in WP:RS. If you want to create subsections for other producers you can, but removing this section under WP:WEIGHT doesn't appear to be an option... Horse Eye's Back (talk) 03:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * By definition in the guideline, WEIGHT means that the encyclopedia devotes mainspace to "significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint" and that "articles should not give minority views". In the case of acreage and production, with FAO data being the RS, the US is not a significant producer, does not have prominence in apricot growing, and is a minority topic. Your addition of content on Turkey does fit, as it is the leading producer. Zefr (talk) 04:10, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, the prominence of the *viewpoint* not the prominence of the producer. It doesn't matter who is a significant producer, it matters who gets significant coverage. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 04:22, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Lack of information about Austrian cuisine
I find it surprising there is no information about the apricot in Austrian cuisine. It is considered the 'default' fruit (what means if something is labelled with just the word 'fruit' without specification it contains apricots, most notably the filling for die Krapfen which by comparison is strawberry in Germany and either cherry, strawberry or rose petal jam in Poland) and the apricot jam is absolutely crucial for many of the Austrian cakes and desserts (quite importantly die Marillenknödeln meaning literally 'apricot noodles'). The status of apricot in Austria is also very special geographically because none of the neighbouring culinary cultures revere apricots to such a degree so it can be said that in Central Europe apricot has been the most successful in Austria. It's definitely one of the staples of the Austrian cuisine. Paweł Małecki (talk) 10:53, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If you can round up some sources which say what you just said I can get on that right away! Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:26, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't want to be a wise guy, but in the text it says (paraphrased a bit) that the apricot is closely related to the plum, but most closely resembles an apricot. How is is helpful to say an object more closely resembles itself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:A0B0:1E70:68A2:AC29:FC2E:4DD (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

title: Talk:Apricot


text:
Talk:Guacamole

Archive
For 10-15 year old inactive discussions, please see the Archive. Bijdenhandje (talk) 17:39, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Basic Ingredients
I made a relavitely minor change regarding black pepper. Having had guacamole all over Mexico and California, in homes and in restaurants, it's clear that black pepper is not a standard ingredient, much less large amounts of it. It does show up from time to time, mostly in American (non-Mexican) homes, so I've listed it as the first in the list of variations along with the note about it not being authentic to the Aztec tradition. But the only three ingredients that are always present are avocado, lime juice, and salt, so only those should be listed as the "basic ingredients." NickJA 20:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)NickJA

The ingredients are incorrect. The first line is mostly correct, with the glaring omission of garlic and often cumin. Often a small amount of picante sauce is added, as well. Most people don't realize, garlic is a widely used Mexican spice; cilantro is not. Cilantro is an Anglo American addition to the recipe due to a recent fad of loading everything even loosely related to Mexican food with the herb, much as sour cream is an Anglo American addition to Mexican food in general. Jkhamlin (talk) 15:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment to article and above: I do not have first hand knowledge as to what the basic or traditional ingredients are. However, I have seen Mexicans complain that neither lime juice nor cream are normal ingredients. And both of my traditional cookbooks lists the very same six ingredients: Avocado, tomato, onion, Serrano chilli, coriander (cilantro), and salt. The books are "La tradicional Cosina Mexicana (a sus merores recetas)" by Adela Fernandez, and "The art of Mexican Cooking (traditional Mexican cooking for aficionados)" by Diana Kennedy. The statement above that coriander is not widely used in Mexico I find questionable: My experience is it is used much as parsley is in western cooking, that is, very often. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor2048 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

 * ^ That's nonsense. Mexican markets sell crema agria, which is their version of sour cream.  And the only times I've encountered cilantro is in Mexican cuisine.  63.92.241.153 (talk) 20:29, 10 October 2016 (UTC) Darwin
 * Eryngium foetidum is native to the Americas, but citrus aurantiifolia and coriandrum sativum are not. If the recipe really dates back to the Aztecs (which is unsourced) then coriander and lime are not the original ingredients. These plant species where introduced to the Americas only a few centuries ago. Bijdenhandje (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:32, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Pronunciation
This article seems to have two Spanish pronunciations, in the intro and  in the body. Can this be clarified? 81.142.107.230 (talk) 11:46, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

 * Here in Texas, every Tejano, every Mexican, and most of the native Anglo Texans pronounce it . Mexican Spanish still retains a lot of Nahuatl sounds that aren't in Castilian Spanish, nor the dictionaries based on the latter. TuckerResearch (talk) 19:05, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Part of American cuisine, and?
I think the article should not say this dish is part of American cuisine now. This dish is very common and part of the diet of a lot of countries in Central America, Caribbean and South America and I believe most of the world now.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.176.161.197 (talk) 20:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

How to manual?
The preparation section is basically a how to guide. Do we need attention? EMachine03 (talk) 22:13, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Salt
I do not believe that salt is required for an ingredient. I'd like to see evidence stating that salt is always to be used in guacamole. From my experience, I'd argue that guacamole only needs avocados and everything else is optional. Added CN to portion about salt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.211.242 (talk) 06:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Well, the same for Yogurt I do not believe in that. But at the end of the day it's not about believes here, it's about the references.

But I think removing salt is not a good idea because basically "salt" CAN be used with any vegetables as a seasoning. The lime juice for e.g. is used (at least in some kitchen) to avoid the avocado to become brown, but in fact that's also optional. I would leave spices and seasoning as it is. --huggi - never stop exploring (talk) 01:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

There's a statement about "sea salt" being a traditional ingredient, which isn't even supported by the (unauthoritative) references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.54.50.130 (talk) 00:17, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

"in American English, it is pronounced /ɡwɑːkəˈmoʊliː/, and in British English, /ˌɡwɑːkəˈmoʊleɪ/"
As is usually the case, it's not that cut and dried. Many Americans (myself included) pronounce it /ˌɡwɑːkəˈmoʊle/. Kostaki mou (talk) 18:13, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Etymology
None of the given sources in the etymology section claim that Guacamole is an Aztec dish. They only claim that the word Guacamole is the Spanish variant of the Aztecs words for Avocado and sauce. They are all food blogs by the way. The book (ISBN 0292711557) I have cited is written by Sophie_Coe (not a blogger). She describes an actual Aztec dish named Ahuaca-mulli. This pre-Colombian era dish has three different ingredients: tomato, avocado and new world onions (chives?). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bijdenhandje (talk • contribs) 16:01, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The word "avocado" comes from the Spanish aguacate, does that make it a Spanish fruit? No. Bijdenhandje (talk) 16:23, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

 * the Spanish "aguacate" is a derivative of the Nahuatl word for āhuacatl --47.157.27.56 (talk) 23:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

With all respect: Are you silly?
Wwho cares about September 16, November 14, The Hass Avocado Board, thats what we all wanna know about Avocados: The national commercial day. (ncluding a well unknown adverb recipe site).--92.224.130.216 (talk) 01:09, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I will remove this section, cause this cultivar does not seem to be relevant. You can make guacamole with any cultivar. Besides, nobody objected to the IP for almost ten years. Bijdenhandje (talk) 17:52, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
 * This article states that "National Guacamole Day" is Sept. 16, but fails to identify the nation in which it is so designated. Since the article can be accessed internationally, it should instead read something similar to, "In the U.S.A., 'National Guacamole Day' is Sept. 16". This, of course, is assuming that the United States is the nation in question.  Kinkleba (talk) 17:58, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Citations for the Mexican Spanish pronunciation: wakaˈmole
I added two more sources for the Mexican Spanish pronunciation of guacamole: :

Mexican Spanish has many pronunciations and words adopted directly from the Nahuatl. I have often heard it pronounced that way in English, in Texas. I'm sure more citations could be found. TuckerResearch (talk) 19:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

 * I have recently become interested in this particular "silent g" pronunciation. Many people online have attested to its use in Mexico (and, of course, the Southwestern United States); however, I have been looking for reliable sources to attest the pronunciation and have been led to you. That first source from Guerra is pretty good, though I do wonder how linguistically precise it is. While that second source does seem to attest the etymology of guacamole, I don't think that it actually lists its modern day Spanish pronunciation; rather, it seems to only list the pronunciation of the Nahuatl ahuacamolli, which of course does not say very much about whether the g is pronounced in Spanish today. So it would seem there is only one source to support this alternate pronunciation.  Mysterymanblue  01:07, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

 * I bet I could find many more refences if I tried. I might do that later.  The first is a fine source: a good local history by a university press with a Tejano P.O.V.  The second is a good source too.  The title of the very page is "Lexical Indo-Americanisms in Spanish" or, a better freer translation: "American-Indian words in Spanish."  The first pronunciation is the Spanish, the next show the etymology.  At least that's how I take it.  Either way, it is the American-Indian word IN Spanish.  With the waka pronunciation.  I hope you find some more refs. TuckerResearch (talk) 14:59, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I will continue to look for sources on this topic. However, in the Pearson book on Spanish etymologies, the “wakamole” pronunciation is not attested. The full phonetic spelling is “ Mysterymanblue  15:56, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

 * Aha! You are correct!  Good catch. The search continues!  TuckerResearch (talk) 18:33, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

As of now: I'll have to do some more digging.... TuckerResearch (talk) 18:50, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * A book: https://books.google.com/books?id=3Yu3AwAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PA147&dq=pronunciation%20guacamole&pg=PA147#v=onepage&q=pronunciation%20guacamole&f=false
 * And an article: https://www.thoughtco.com/is-the-g-in-guacamole-silent-3079533

Here is another one: https://books.google.com/books?id=e34SAAAAIAAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&dq=wakamole&pg=PA137#v=onepage&q=wakamole&f=false Best, TuckerResearch (talk) 13:58, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

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Wolfgang W.E. Samuel

Wolfgang W.E. Samuel (born February 2, 1935) is a German-born American writer and a veteran of the United States Air Force.

Early years
Born in what is now Poland, ten-year-old Samuel, along with his mother and sister, ran from his home town of Sagan (now Żagań in Poland) in 1945 as the Red Army approached. As a Flüchtling (refugee), he underwent privation and re-settlement in the post-war years. His mother was raped repeatedly, and his grandfather was killed by German communists. He describes how he and his mother eventually settled near a U.S. airbase in western Germany, where his mother met and married an American serviceman.

Military career
After the family emigrated to the United States, Samuel attended the University of Colorado at Boulder, graduating with a Bachelor of Science degree in Business in 1960, and subsequently the National War College. He served in the United States Air Force for 30 years, retiring with the rank of colonel in 1985. He was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross and Air Medal multiple times during his years of active duty. As of 2008, he resided in Fairfax Station, Virginia.

Author
As of 2015, Samuel has published eight books. The first, German Boy: A Child in War, is a memoir detailing the war years and his post-war life as a refugee, and features a foreword by historian Stephen Ambrose. His second book, I Always Wanted to Fly: America's Cold War Airmen, is a compilation of oral histories of American aviators of the Cold War era. The War of Our Childhood: Memories of World War II, another oral history compilation, tells of twenty-seven Germans who experienced the war as children. American Raiders: The Race to Capture the Luftwaffe's Secrets, is an account of the efforts made by the United States military to acquire German military technology.

Glory Days: The Untold Story of the Men Who Flew the B-66 Destroyer into the Face of Fear recounts some of the adventures of the often unsung crews of the B-66, RB-66 and EB-66 aircraft. Watson's Whizzer's: Operation Lusty and the Race for Nazi Aviation Technology documents the United States' efforts to obtain German aeronautical breakthroughs at the end of World War II. His most recent work is In Defense of Freedom that describes the sacrifices of America's World War II Army Air Force flyers and their contributions to the Allied victory.

Works

 * German Boy: A Refugee's Story. Jackson: University Press of Mississippi, 2000.  ISBN 1-57806-482-1
 * I Always Wanted to Fly: America's Cold War Airmen. Jackson: University Press of Mississippi, 2001.  ISBN 1-57806-399-X
 * The War Of Our Childhood: Memories of World War Two. Jackson: University Press of Mississippi, 2002.  ISBN 1-57806-482-1
 * American Raiders: The Race to Capture the Luftwaffe's Secrets. Jackson: University Press of Mississippi, 2004.  ISBN 1-57806-649-2
 * Coming to Colorado: A Young Immigrant's Journey to Become an American Flyer. Jackson: University Press of Mississippi, 2006 ISBN 978-1-57806-902-6
 * Glory Days: The Untold Story of the Men Who Flew the B-66 Destroyer into the Face of Fear.  Schiffer Publishing, Ltd., 2008.  ISBN 0-7643-3086-1, ISBN 978-0-7643-3086-5
 * Watson's Whizzer's: Operation Lusty and the Race for Nazi Aviation Technology.  Schiffer Publishing, Ltd., 2010.  ISBN 0-7643-3517-0, ISBN 978-0-7643-3517-4
 * In Defense of Freedom: Stories of Courage and Sacrifice of World War II Army Air Forces Flyers. University Press of Mississippi, 2015. ISBN 1628462175, ISBN 978-1628462173

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