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Talk:Paladin (character class)

The WoW section for this page is way too long. Ardus Kane (talk) 10:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Paladins in Warcraft are arguably one of the most important classes (from a lore perspective), and thus they have a large amount a history behind them. I'll rewrite the section anyway and condense it as much as possible without losing the main points. -Flyingtoastr (talk) 06:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

 * This should still include a link to Leeroy Jenkins, the most famous paladin of them all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.57.96.1 (talk) 15:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

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Vandalism
I have just reverted this page, from an edit by: 68.127.186.30 Be warned 76.236.183.210 (talk)

Needs Picture
really. Jwray (talk) 06:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

WarCraft section needs an update
A lot of it is very untrue as of World of WarCraft today. 216.227.90.154 (talk) 03:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Guild Wars section
The Paragon is far more similiar to a Paladin than the Dervish if you ask me. Read the description of the classes on the Guild Wars wiki (particularly the bit about Paragons being hand-picked by the gods, and the fact they wear heavy armor). Even the name is more similiar - and Guild Wars 2's Guardian is very much like your typical Paladin archetype, and is a spiritual successor of the Paragon and the Monk (stated in many articles on the class), not the Dervish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.11.227.226 (talk) 14:37, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

possible copyvio.
Large parts of the Diablo II paragraphs seem to come directly from the manual (which I don't have atm), esp. the "During ..." and "Unfortunately ..." paragraphs. Is that a copyright violation, or is there an OK by Blizzard? - ¡Ouch! (hurt me / more pain) 15:34, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Contested PROD
, and there are a few others on that same site that do comparisons with this class and other films' characters. One can also argue that many businesses with the name "Paladin" in it come from this class name. In any case, there would need to be a bit more discussion and analysis on sourcing before supporting deletion. --MuZemike 18:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Agentive suffix

The example uses "suicide" as a verb. I find this verb to be very awkward even in the best of situations, but I'm not sure how to incorporate that into the entry. For example, "he suicided" sounds wrong, even though my dictionary tells me this is an established usage.

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2nd World Science Fiction Convention

The 2nd World Science Fiction Convention (Worldcon), also known as Chicon I, was held on 1–2 September 1940 at the Hotel Chicagoan in Chicago, Illinois, United States.

The convention was chaired by Mark Reinsberg with Erle Korshak (secretary) and Bob Tucker (treasurer) as equal partners. It was organized by fans Russ Hodgkins, T. Bruce Yerke, and Walt Daugherty.

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Attendance was 128.

Guests of Honor

 * E. E. "Doc" Smith

Other notable participants
Also attending were Jack Williamson and Forrest J Ackerman.

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This was the first Worldcon to include a masquerade.

Chicon featured two masquerades, an unofficial event held in Myrtle R. Douglas' hotel room and an official masquerade as part of the program. The official event, called the "Science Fiction Masquerade Party", was held in the evening of the first day, with Jack Speer and Milton A. Rothman as the co-masters of ceremonies. This was the first Worldcon to include an official masquerade.

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Other costumed attendees included guest of honor E. E. "Doc" Smith as Northwest Smith (from C. L. Moore's series of short stories), Smith's daughter Honey as Clarissa MacDougal (from Smith's own Lensman series), George Tullis as Johnny Black (from L. Sprague de Camp's series of short stories), Cyril M. Kornbluth as The Invisible Man (from H. G. Wells' novella of the same name, wrapped in bandages as in the 1933 film version), three versions of Buck Rogers (Jack Speer, plus convention organizers Erle Korshak and Mark Reinsberg), and both Forrest J Ackerman and Myrtle R. Douglas wearing the "futuristicostumes" they had previously worn to the first Worldcon.

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Hunz
allmusic.com knows him as Hunz Van Vliet. Which is his more common name? Zoe 06:01, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

No problem, then, though we should probably create a redirect. Are you up to creating an article on Beanbag (band)? Zoe 06:18, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

By the way, you can sign your Talk page comments with four tildes -- ~, which will include a link back to your User page and a date and time stamp. Zoe 06:26, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

By the way, I forgot to welcome you to Wikipedia. So, welcome, and I hope you enjoy your editing here. :) Zoe 06:35, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Ack. How do I explain a Redirect. Well, click on this link -> Hunz Van Vliet. You'll see that it takes you to the page Hunz. If you look at the top of the Hunz page, it will show you at the top of the page that it was redirected from Hunz Van Vliet. Click on the Hunz Van Vliet link at the top of the Hunz page, and you'll see that that page contains "#REDIRECT Hunz". "#REDIRECT" is used when there's the possibility that more than one term can define the same page title. Like United States of America and United States, one redirects to the other. That way, you don't have to keep recreating the same information at more than one page. Zoe 06:47, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Nice work on the Beanbag article. BTW, allmusic and artistdirect call them Christian rock. Zoe 06:48, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

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Unreferenced BLPs
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Shasta College

Shasta College is a public community college in Redding, California, with branch campuses in Burney, Weaverville, and Red Bluff. It was founded in 1950 and later moved to a much larger campus while the original campus became the new location of Shasta High School.

Shasta College has approximately 8,865 students of all ages, including traditional college students, concurrently-enrolled high school students, older, re-entry students, and continuing education students who are simply taking classes for fun. The college has a wide variety of transfer-level and pre-transfer-level classes and programs as well as vocational programs. Many recent high school graduates attend the college in order to transfer to universities after two years. Though many students commute to the college from their homes, the college is one of the few California Community Colleges with a dormitory. Shasta College has a strong athletic program offering numerous sports programs. The school mascot is a Knight.

Shasta College is perhaps best known for its music department, which includes a symphony orchestra, band, choir, music theory, piano, and guitar classes. It is home to a community band that with over 100 members is one of the largest in the United States.

On August 20, 2007, Shasta College opened its doors to the new Health, Sciences & University Center in Downtown Redding. It is a subsidiary of CSU Chico, the Oregon Institute of Technology, and Southern Oregon University.

Student government
The students of Shasta College have established a student body association named Shasta College Student Senate. The association is required by law to "encourage students to participate in the governance of the college".

The Student Senate periodically participates in meetings sponsored by a statewide community college student organization named Student Senate for California Community Colleges. The statewide Student Senate is authorized by law "to advocate before the Legislature and other state and local governmental entities".

Notable alumni and faculty

 * Pearl Kiyawn Nageak Brower, Iñupiat academic administrator
 * Tony D'Souza, author
 * Brian Jones, former AFL quarterback
 * Ricky Ray, professional football quarterback
 * Jason Sehorn, former NFL defensive back
 * Ken Shamrock, former football player; former professional mixed martial artist and professional wrestler, former UFC Superfight Champion and UFC Hall of Fame member
 * Terry Riley, composer
 * James Whalen, former NFL tight end
 * Jay Johnson, Head baseball coach at Louisiana State University
 * Michael Zagaris, Oakland Athletics and San Francisco 49ers team photographer
 * Bill Plummer, former Major League Baseball catcher for Cincinnati Reds and Seattle Mariners
 * Rick Bosetti, former Major League Baseball outfielder

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Royal Hobart Hospital

The Royal Hobart Hospital is a public hospital in the Hobart CBD, Tasmania, Australia. The hospital also functions as a teaching hospital in co-operation with the University of Tasmania. The hospital's research facilities are known as the Royal Hobart Hospital Research Foundation. Also close to the hospital site is the Menzies Research Institute.

The hospital is run by the Tasmanian Government as part of the Department of Health and Human Services and is the largest hospital, and the largest employer, in Tasmania. The hospital provides services for all of southern Tasmania and has capacity for 400 patients. Many statewide services such as cardiothoracic surgery, neurosurgery, major trauma, high-risk obstetrics, hyperbaric medicine, and neonatal intensive care are based at the hospital, with referrals coming in from the north and northwest.

The main entrance underwent construction for a new underground emergency department. This began operation in early 2007 with surrounding construction ongoing. A more recent hospital redevelopment project was initiated with A$565 million in funding, including a new women's and children's precinct, cancer service, intensive care unit, and day surgery facility.

History
Royal Hobart Hospital is Australia's second-oldest hospital (after Sydney Hospital) as well as the longest-running civil institution of Tasmania, and first began serving the community in 1804. It moved to its current site on Liverpool Street in 1820. In 1938 it was renamed from Hobart General Hospital to Royal Hobart Hospital and gained its own coat of arms.

Repatriation General Hospital, Hobart
Hobart's Repatriation General Hospital was transferred to the Tasmanian public hospital system on 1 July 1992 and linked to the hospital through the Acute Care Program following the formation of the new agency. It serves as a community rehabilitation site, as well as offering allied health and inpatient geriatric services.

Hobart Private Hospital
In November 1999 the Queen Alexandra wing was leased to become the Hobart Private Hospital.

Noteworthy personnel

 * Sir Dr James Willson Agnew KCMG (1815-1901), appointed Colonial Surgeon at the Royal Hobart Hospital, then the Hobart general Hospital, in 1845. He went on to be the 16th Premier of Tasmania from 8 March 1886 – 29 March 1887.
 * Dr Bruce Maitland Carruthers OBE (1892-1951), a former Director-General of Health in Tasmania was the senior house surgeon at Royal Hobart Hospital 1927–1935.
 * Dr William Lodewyk Crowther (1817-1885), appointed as a medical officer at the hospital in 1860. He was suspended in March 1869 over charges of mutilating the body of William Lanney, the last male Tasmanian Aboriginal. He went on to be the 14th Premier of Tasmania from 20 December 1878 to 29 October 1879.

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Fragaria viridis

Fragaria viridis, commonly called creamy strawberry or green strawberry is a species of strawberry native to Europe and central Asia. It has fruits with fine flavour. They have surprisingly little of the usual strawberry aroma, but a refreshing acidity, and sometimes ripen without becoming red. When they are plucked from the plant, the calyx will usually adhere and they will detach with a noticeable snapping sound.

All strawberries have a base haploid count of 7 chromosomes. Fragaria viridis is diploid, having 2 pairs of these chromosomes for a total of 14 chromosomes. Fragaria viridis is approximately 6.24 million years old.

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Talk:Inglewood, New Zealand

Murder Capital?
'Murder Capital of New Zealand" ? I've heard it called that a few times. - SimonLyall 06:03, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Really? Loopy 02:12, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, I remember it being called that back in the early 1990s and I've talked to others who remember similar, there was another murder there last year. A population of 2800 should only have around a murder every 10 years or so to match the National rate. SimonLyall 11:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Blimey, and to think it looks so sleepy and dull... Loopy 22:00, September 10, 2005 (UTC)

 * Dull Oh Yeah! but it's fucken Vegas compared to Ngaruawahia. Bigkev

FLASE - I am the sister of the boy murdered at that party you went to. The boy who knifed my brother to death was the son of the maths teacher there and not teh principle.- (It was the principle if u went to the school you would notice theres a photo line of all the previous principle and the  who was murdered was the principle not the maths teacher)   You are also inaccurate in how you describe what happened and why. Many of your other 'reclections' of other murders are also wrong. refrain from gossip......it is hurtful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.167.145.44 (talk) 08:49, 11 April 2013 (UTC) You also have the Paul Julian murders a bit skewed mate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.59.167.235 (talk) 06:05, 1 July 2013 (UTC)  OMG I just stumbled across this none of these stories are accurate!!!! This needs to be removed! You forget some of these families are still living in the area and don't need to relive these tragidies!! A women that you mentioned has young children one only 9ish. All though u didn't mention names its not cool!!!

LETS CLEAR SOMETHING UP I have done extensive research on the double homicide (1981) you mentioned and the earlier murder committed by the same person in 1969 in New Plymouth. 99% of the recollections of the details are always wrong and the case has wrongly become a legend rather than a horrendous double homicide. I have studied the court notes, scene examinations, pathologists reports, witness statements and even the statements by the accused and believe me, its not easy to digest. A couple of things I can clear up though: the “house across the road from the pub” is not the location. The legend/rumour about “excised genitalia” is just that – legend. These murders were, however, horrific and not really something that needs to be described on the internet.

^whatever woman wrote this needs to get a grip on herself^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.11.178.253 (talk) 00:59, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT - Don't know who has put all this information on this site but I lived in Inglewood when a lot of these murders happened and you have got so much information wrong. If you can't put accurate facts about these murders then don't even comment. Don't act like you know these people or were there when it happened when your accounts are soooo inaccurate. And yes you do have to remember that families of those involved read crap posts like yours!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.154.238.242 (talk) 21:57, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Notorious?
I'd like some feedback on recent edits to the article, which attempt to make the case that it's notorious for murders. The discussion above is relevant, but not very clear. I've reverted the edits once, and they've been restored with some changes. I've now removed the most extreme references: one which is to a reliable source which is quoting a humour site "Shit towns of New Zealand", and the other which is usually considered a reliable source but is raving about the likelihood of vampires in the town. For the fullest list of references, see the version of 18:37, 23 August 2019. Some of the current references have links to online sources in that earlier version.- gadfium 23:50, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

For the record, I removed the earlier mention about this being the murder capital of NZ back in 2006.- gadfium 23:54, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for engaging on this point.

I think that two references you have removed are relevant inasmuch as that they both refer to the notoriety I have sought to establish. The (admittedly farcical) Vampire article does so in an offhand way, as if to suggest that Inglewood’s reputation is common knowledge.

The ‘Shit Towns of New Zealand’ article contains a quote from the mayor of Taranaki which suggests that to call Inglewood the murder capital “is so dated as to be laughable”. That quote alone establishes that the town did have this reputation at some point.

Indeed, the fact that you have reverted these edits before (some ten years ago!) plus the commentary on this very Talk page does go some way to establishing the very notoriety that I’m referring to.

I’m not keen to make the case that Inglewood is, in any way, a ‘murder capital’. Rather, I think it is important to convey the fact that Inglewood has played host to a significant number of unusual murders given it’s small size and, accordingly, the town has developed some notoriety.

There is no paucity of well regarded sources which substantiate this claim.

To that end, my question to you is: why should this point be absent on Inglewood’s Wikipedia entry? The tenor of the discussion above seems to be Inglewood locals attempting to suppress any mention of grizzly historic events in an effort to protect the reputation of their town.

I propose that a Wikipedia article needs to be factual and representative rather than censorious.

-Ollee 03:14, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

 * I looked at reference 12 (Taranaki Daily News) used to confirm a murder in Inglewood as being 'barbaric'. That news article, about a trial, does not confirm a murder (although the accused was later found guilty). It also does not use the word barbaric, meaning that that description of the murder is your personal opinion. It confirms the death did not occur in Inglewood but on an out of town main road. The only mention of Inglewood is that the dead man was in an Inglewood bar shortly before his death. That reference reports a murder trial, nothing else. It does not corroborate the claim that Inglewood is the murder capital of NZ, nor that it is notable for being the site of many unusually grotesque murders, nor notorious, nor anything similar. I have not removed that reference due to the discussion being started here, but I cannot help but wonder if the other references are equally questionable. Ollee, can you please supply better references, but first check here and here. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 07:52, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Just mentioning notoriety and a variety of adjectives (gruesome, barbaric, unusual) is pretty weak. A description of each homicide (the court decided the Gibson case was not murder) would provide some substance. Does anyone plan to do that? Nurg (talk) 09:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys, this is great feedback.

 * I have adjusted the references accordingly so that the words used are found in each of the articles referenced to avoid inferring personal opinion.

 * I don't think a description of each homicide is useful to the reader. More than anything else, there are a LOT of them. The purpose of this article is not to describe crimes in significant detail (if the crime was important enough, it would have its own entry) but rather to impart something about the history of the town.

 * To that end, I've added a verbatim quote from the anthropologist Michael D. Jackson which discusses the 'murder capital' idea and references some relative statistics, in addition to talking about the nature of the crimes themselves.ollee (talk) 01:34, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

 * Ollie, are you related to Michael Jackson? You seem to have an unusually keen interest in promoting him and this somewhat fringe theory of Inglewood being a hive of satanic murdering freaks? I have removed source 7 which is a blog site and not a reliable source. There is a lot more still wrong with your edits, mainly that you have not established this "murder centre of NZ" idea as being particularly notable. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 08:16, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

 * For the record, I am not trying to promote the idea that Inglewood is a ‘murder capital’, so to speak.

 * Rather, in an entry such as this I think it’s important to acknowledge that Inglewood has played host to an unusually large number of sensational crimes which have given it a certain notoriety.

 * The fact that a renowned anthropologist has commented at length on this matter in a book published by a reputable university press does, unequivocally, rate a mention here.

 * As for the Quote Unquote citation: it was originally from an article in a print magazine that is kept in the National Library of New Zealand archives. The fact that it has been reposted on a blog should in no way serve to diminish the credibility of the original article. ollee (talk) 10:34, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

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User:Redwolf24/Archive10

Rather annoying wikipedia bug
Go to Microsoft - if you click edit on "Antitrust problems" or any of the sections after it, it edits the section AFTER the one you want to edit, and if you click edit on "External Links" then you get a blank edit box and if you hit save it |appends it to the end of the article! It might have something to do with the embedded HTML comments I'm using but I'm not sure. -- Ryan Norton T 05:12, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Crap, sorry I forgot to respond Ryan. I saw that bug, the counter must be off as you'll see in the URL it'll say edit&section=30 or whatever... That's the only time I've seen that happen. If its still happening, report it to wikisoftware developer, Tim Starling. Until then just edit the entire thing rather than sections. Redwolf24 08:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

 * No problem - I put a message on Tim's talk message shortly after you responded -- Ryan Norton T 03:31, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Family Guy Song
I really want to say that it was "Take On Me" by A-ha. I can't quite remember. I actually downloaded a copy of the clip from the episode, lemme see if I can find it. MicahMN | Talk 23:57, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Have no mention of downloading on my page, the Feds are watching me. <.< Redwolf24 23:59, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I actually think it is OK (fair use) to have that 30 second clip online. The whole episode, most likely not. MicahMN | Talk 00:03, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * ah. I thought you wre getting the whole episode. Redwolf24 00:07, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Nope, and I can point you to an iFilm version if you want (it is a 49 second clip). MicahMN | Talk 00:10, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I thought over 30 was illegal... Redwolf24 00:11, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I got a clip, it's a-ha's Take On Me. -- Cyrius|✎ 01:18, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks you two! Redwolf24 01:45, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi
Thank yous, etc. :) Howabout1 Talk to me! 02:38, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm honored. Redwolf24 02:41, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Per your request
Add this to User:Redwolf24/monobook.js. Copy it from the edit box, since the formatting is correct there. -- Essjay ·  Talk 04:08, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

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// add "block" tab addlilink(tabs, '/wiki/Special:Blockip?faketarget=' + editlk, 'block', '');

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 * Not working :( Redwolf24 04:45, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

I know; I asked another user for help. I'll let you know as soon as I get it to work. -- Essjay ·  Talk 04:59, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

 * k Redwolf24 05:00, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

4500
Tradition dictates I say: 4500. -- Essjay ·  Talk 05:36, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

 * You crazy monkey! Redwolf24 05:37, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank for the barnstar! I'm moving it to my user page. I hope you meant funny as in "ha ha", not "strange" :) Grutness...  wha?  05:48, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

 * In the HoHo funny. Redwolf24 05:49, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Account use - Suggestions
Dear Sir,

 * Hi, I'm Essjay. Red is on vacation and asked me to answer questions for him.

I am the 'best ever IP user without an account', as you called me with much appreciated Canadian flair.

 * Actually, he's American (US), Canadian, and Brazillian!

While I DO consider creating an account, I would first like to clear up one remaining concern : once I have created one, do I have to make all further contributions using it, or can I still choose to make some contributions anonymously, or create a second account, if that is technically better?

 * You should only use one account at a time. If you choose later to use a new account, you can do so by having your account renamed. Using multiple accounts is prohibited by Sockpuppet and may result in the secondary accounts being blocked. This is because some users use multiple accounts in order to sway votes (i.e., they create ten accounts which each vote their way, hoping to skew the results thier way).

I have already experienced that not every Wikipedian is as objective and broad-minded as I try to be, a few even abusive vandals (the price we pay for such an open system, I know) so I don't want to open the flood-gates for pointless bickering when contributing on more controversial matters, which yet should not be avoided in an encyclopaedia.

 * Yes, vandalism is a problem, and some users are less mature than others. However, the Wikipedia community in general is skeptical of edits by IP addresses. (Since most vandalism comes from IPs.) By signing in, you avoid having every edit scrutinized (not to suggest that some won't be, but you are less likely to have them all scrutinized) and you gain a higher threshold of "assume good faith." (i.e, We are more likely to do a wholesale revert of content added by an IP if we suspect it is bad faith; we are far more likely to leave content and ask for sources from a registered user.)

By the way, would me contributions under my present anonymous IP (it doesn't seem to have been used be anyone else, save an oversight) the appear under the account pseudonym, either automatically or optionally?

 * No. Reassignment of contributions was once performed, but is no longer. The only way contributions are reassigned is if they are from one account to another account (as described above). Ip to account moves are no longer performed.

If you can reassure me in this matter, all that separates me from life as an account holder is coming up with a pen-name.

 * I hope you'll decide to join us in the land of the logged in. Logging in also conveys certian benefits.

As I read you are an administrator, maybe you can also answer or foreward questions and suggestions of a more general, technical nature, such as the following.

 * I'm an admin too, so I'll keep answering.

Naturally I fully understand if for practical reasons it is not realistic to do anything about these. But wouldn't we be happy puppies (well you a RedCub, I suppose) if we'ld had helped make the Wiki-system even more attractive?

 * We all try our best!

-Would it be possibly to include an automatic spelling checker in the Edit and Preview modes? The IMDb (on film and TV) does, and it seems to work perfectly. This could avoid lots of unnecessary errors and reedits.

 * This has been suggested before, and the developers have informed us that it is not a possiblity for a reason I cannot remember at the moment.

-As clicking the labels of the various pages concerning an article can be rather slow in response, I imagine because the servers are somewhat overcharged, it might be nice to avoid some idle History-visits by mentioning the date (possibly even the user) of the latest edit on the clickable page label.

 * I doubt it's server overload; I never have any delay unless I'm using dial-up. Listing the last user to edit might be a useful feature, and if you have any javascript experience, you can program the software to do this automatically by editing your monobook.js settings (only for logged in users). If you don't have javascript experience, there are several knowledgeable users and a fledgling WikiProject that can help you do this.

-This may be the most tricky one. On the all to frequent occasions the Wikipedia server disconnects me (and this shuts down all my open Internet connections, even on other sites) I find that not only the edits I was working on can get lost (not all, the debugging options sometimes prevents this), even previously executed and displayed changes can then fail to get entered in my User Contributions record.

 * My guess is that it is your ISP disconnecting you, as there is no way for our page to affect your internet connection. This is a common problem with dial-up service; if you have dial-up, perhaps you might want to investigate the wonders of DSL/Broadband.

-While I am personally at doubt if it makes sense to maintain the strict separation between Wikipedia and Wiktionary which in our virtual medium is not required by physical restrictions as in the printed equivalents, rather then simply have appropriate type sections under one lemma, as long as we do I can only suggest to coordinate the two systematically.

Thus it would be good to have an automatic link whenever the other has an article of the same name.

And the Search function could also ideally list results from both, separate or mixed.

 * Because Wikipedia & Wiktionary are separate sites, they do not have common search (although you could probably establish this using a search engine like Google.) Templates already exist to link to other Wikimedia projects that have related articles, see How to link to Wikimedia projects.

Yours sincerely,

A Flemish historian and civil servant,

193.191.210.2 09:26, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I hope this helps. If you have other questions, feel free to post them here, and Red or I will answer them. (His page serves as a kind of "community picnic," and I frequently slip in to answer questions.) -- Essjay ·  Talk 04:40, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

Mop
Thanks for the bucket and mop... Mwahahaha! It is finally in my hands!!! :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 16:25, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

 * If you screw up I'll nail you to the wall :D Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Hey, Red: Flcelloguy = new admin. New admin = Please do not bite the new administrators. Follow your own policy! ; - ) -- Essjay ·  Talk 06:39, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks from FlooK
Thank you for the welcome a week or two ago. The links were very helpful, they're perfect for giving new users like myself a much better idea of how wikipedia operates and therefore the confidence to get stuck in with editing. Keep up the good work. --FlooK 00:11, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

 * No prob! Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Your road trip
Well, I hope you'll have a good trip. Feel free to tell me about it when you come back. Best wishes. -- Mike Garcia | talk 03:08, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks Mike. Its been great so far :) Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support
Thank you for voting to support my RFA. I've been promoted, and I promise to wield the mop with good faith, patience, and fairness... except when I'm exterminating vandals with the M-16 recoilless nuclear Gatling mop. --malathion talk 07:41, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

 * If you screw up I'll nail you upside the head with a 2x4 :D Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Need I repeat myself? ; - ) -- Essjay ·  Talk 06:45, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

Func's RfA :)
I love you, too. :)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Func( t, c, e, ) 19:08, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

 * If you screw up I'll (insert vague threat here) :D Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

(Insert biting admonishment here) *whacks Red with above-mentioned 2x4* : - p -- Essjay ·  Talk 06:47, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

A user that might make a good admin
User:Carnildo was extremely insistant and helpful on the licensing for the images for the Autism page on the FAC (which is a featured article now (my first...), BTW!) and generally so for nearly every featured article request... I looked and at least as of a month ago does not appear to be an admin and isn't the admin list... he has nearly 5000 edits, and according to his contribution list has been here since january 2004. I'd nominate but then I doubt my word would carry much weight since I've only been here a few weeks... -- Ryan Norton T 03:39, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Nominated. Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Advice
Hye Redwolf, if you have time, wouldn't mind some advice. Looking at Test_%28student_assessment%29, it is not written from a NPOV at all. I'm going to try to change it to make it more balanced. In looking at it, I notice parts are also written from very much an American POV. Can you guide me to policy on this? Know I've seen something somewhere, just can't find it.

 * I'll check it now. Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Article PC Check recreated after deletion
PC Check this article has been recreated with the same contents, after it was deleted with a vfd. --Ragib 21:06, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

 * K, I'll kill it. Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Please Take a look at Rohingya
Dear Red Wolf,

Please take a look at rohingya arcticle some of the admin staff are trying to mess the article. kindly view all the history and talk page. thanks--Bobjack 09:07, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Red, you are more than welcome to do that. In fact, I urge you to look into this. A parade of sockpuppets are harrassing anyone trying to edit or evey copyedit the article, as if no one else has any right to do so. My user page have been vandalized several times, and abusive comments left. Please take a look at the history of the page, and also the talk page. Thanks. --Ragib 12:51, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Looks like its been taken care of. Redwolf24 01:46, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and that reminds me...
I'm still listed on your friends page as giving you a flail. Is that all I mean to you??? You just like me for my flail? I have a treatise on you at User:Essjay/WikiFriends and all I get is "he gave me a flail"????????? *whacks again with above-mentioned 2x4* I deserve better! *whack* Better! *whack* Better! *whack*

* Histrionics end here* ; - ) -- Essjay ·  Talk 06:53, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah I saw that yesterday and I was like I should update this... but then my internet died. And now I have to hit ze road again. I can't wait to get home! ow my stomach... Redwolf24 14:20, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for updating. I appreciate it greatly. *whacks with 2x4* Don't let it happen again! *grins* ; - ) -- Essjay ·  Talk 18:13, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry!
But hooves are a bit impractical to use a keyboard, I've changed my nickname to clear up any confusion ; ) Martin - The non-blue non-moose 08:05, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Haha. Paws suck too :( Redwolf24 08:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Rock music page link
Here's the link to my page: http://landru.myhome.net/jtrees/rock.htm

Cheers! (and I'm not Canadian ;) Bumm13 08:52, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Please block him
User:69.205.7.230 has been constantly removing links off Hardy boys pages. I've reverted him about 40 times and warned him a lot, but he doesn't quit. Tell me if I'm wrong in removing them, and I have to go soon, so please block him. Howabout1 Talk to me! 16:37, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

 * Done. Sorry I was sleeping, that's why it took me. Redwolf24 20:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks. Wonder why he was so obsessed with removing them thath he reverted me at every time I reverted him? I got a free ~60 edits to add to my edit count, though. Howabout1 Talk to me! 22:58, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thet was my 2000th edit. W00t!!!! Howabout1 Talk to me! 23:03, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

 * Score. ;) Redwolf24 02:23, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

2,000
Thanks. Vandals are finnally good for something. Howabout1 Talk to me! 03:11, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * replied at page. Redwolf24 20:28, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

...5000
Per our tradition, it is time to celebrate: Essjay just hit 5000! -- Essjay ·  Talk 05:43, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * nice. stupid vacation x.x Redwolf24 20:28, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Just happened to check and noticed it was time to say: 5100. -- Essjay ·  Talk 13:23, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Many Thanks
Thanks for supporting my RFA. It couldn't have happened without your effort. FeloniousMonk 17:00, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

 * If you screw up I'll burn down your shed. ;) Redwolf24 20:28, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

*wh ack* ; - p -- Essjay ·  Talk 05:13, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Revert
Actually it made me laugh out loud--that person must have thought it was an insult or something. Says more about them than about you! Happy reverting, Antandrus (talk) 00:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Haha I laughed too. What kind of vandalism is that? >xD Redwolf24 00:42, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Temporary Protect related to Attack of the Show
Thanks for protect on User:Attackoftheshow... can you also temporarily protect main Attack of the Show article? Is experiencing collateral damage from show announcement directly related to the User page. See and  as example. Thanks, Liberty 00:46, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Alright. Running this all is very tiresome :( Redwolf24 00:48, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I'll bet. (Might have been part of their intention.) Thanks for quick response. Should I remove request from

? Liberty 00:51, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Already done. Redwolf24 00:53, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Attack of the Show Wiki
Redwolf,

Please unlock the AOTS Wiki page. Their experiment will be ruined if nobody can actually edit the page. If stuff gets deleted, that's okay; even though it's "lame", it's still the true nature of the beast. Let people do what they will, they'll still be able to plow through the history and see how the experiment "evolved".

Thanks.

 * It was protected because of Vandalism, such as we'd have to revert past and even lose legitimate ideas. Now that doesn't happen, and any new ideas can be posted on the talk page to be moved to the main page. It will stay protected for now. Redwolf24 01:11, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Do you really speak 1337??? lol

'/35. .-3|>vv01ph24 01:53, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Your message
Thanks for your e-mail, I returned the message. D. J. Bracey (talk) 02:18, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Why delete some of my links
I now it will be in the history but why did some of my top 6 get deleted in teh discussion? especially the one www.chrisnowak.org/erin, i saw where it says you removed them in history, btw what you are doing for AOTS, and i really never been around the site but it is very cool im creating account right away. THank you if you respond if not i understand.

 * Sorry I took away that /erin one. I saw it sweet with your comment there. But AOTS would not put it on, there's no content there its just a teen girl's blog. Anyways glad to see you join Wikipedia. Redwolf24 02:28, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar, I'm glad you got the e-mail. Ha, ha. D. J. Bracey (talk) 02:34, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Here is one for you:

and a Purple Heart

Happy editing, D. J. Bracey (talk) 02:34, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks again, I'm glad you consider me a friend. I won't threaten to leave a third time. D. J. Bracey (talk) [[Image:Flag of California.svg|25px]] 02:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

attack of the show....
dude your not supposed to block that page...its for veiwers of g4 and its supposed to be edited

sorry multiposted

attack of the show skit script
i left a message on the discussion of attach of the show user page, but i wanted to personally message you also. my script was in option 8, it was called "hot coffee revisited" and now it is replaced by some power ranger thing. can you let me repost it or you can repost it?

here is my entry in its entirety.

scene starts with a grainy black and white film showing kevin in an old gangster suit from the 20's. he is sitting in a bar drinking a hard liquor of some sort and is all alone.

kevin: (inner monolouge) If I could go back to that day, I would have given it all up for her.

flashback to "that day", still black and white, not grainy, we see kevin (from a view seeing his face) sitting with a controller in his hand. he is obviosly playing a video game because we seem him grinning, moving his thumbs to press the buttons, and see the glow of the screen on his face.

kevin: (this time he actually speaks) ok, got to kill one more zombie(furiously plays the game) HA! i did it!!!

we then hear from the tv the voice of a female from the game

female: thank you, you saved me from the zombies, i am yours forever.

game voiceovering narrator: press "a" to initiate hot tea minigame

at this moment, we see kevin's thumb about to press with anticipation of the upcoming minigame filled with sex, when suddenly his girlfriend enters the room(in lingerie) and unplugs the video game, making the glow disappear(yes, kevin has a girlfriend in this scene).

kevin: NO!! I was just about to...beat the game(in a questioning voice because he didnt want to say "have sex with a game character)!

girlfriend: come on kevin, dont you want to come to bed?

kevin: (in a huff and upset) ok fine...

back to kevin in the bar, and grainy again.

kevin: (back to inner monologue) i'm so glad i broke up with my girlfriend, because now i can play hot tea all the time. (now speaking) What the hell am i doing here? i have to get back to my woman! here i come hot tea!!

(/end scene)

oops

Re: User:Attackoftheshow
Thanks again for your work on the "User:Attackoftheshow" debacle. I think the show producers owe you thanks, and/or an apology to the Wikipedia community. (Now we can look forward to a million new pages related to video games.) -- 20:28, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Cheers and no worries
Thanks for the barnstar, and don't worry about IRC. I was mucking around as much as you were. [[smoddy ]] 10:55, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

oh...sorry....
oh...sorry....

w00t!

 * )00|), j00 |<|\|0VV 4|\| 4|)\/4|\|(3|) |_3\/3|_ 0f l337 700? w007!!!111 j00 |2 73|-| |20><0|2z!!!111 :) Jaxl | talk 17:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Allow me to translate that for any onlookers. It says: dood, you know an advanced level of 1337 too? w00t! you are teh roxorz! Redwolf24 20:33, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Yep, I had to get that out of my system. (I can see the style of 1337 on your page actually differs a bit from mine). Jaxl | talk 20:52, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I know there's multiple ways to use each letter and I toggle between them. So I use your alphabet as well don't worry :P .-3|>vv01ph24 03:17, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh, the headache! These blasted kids! -- Essjay ·  Talk 03:57, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

re: Haha, thanks
I see you're using my Article list philosophy. I'm touched ;) Redwolf24 21:36, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * You're a little late, but yes, I have. (in fact, I stole this before you were an admin *phew!*) I don't remember how long ago, but I'm glad you approve. I kept a list of contribs, and then I thought to myself: "Why do I need this?" As great as it is to artificially inflate ones edit count, it's also a bit dumb and amoral. I've been on semi-vacation for a while now, and havn't had the ability to raise edits as I once did. But rest assured, once I return, I'll be bigger than ever. Thanks for the note. - Sun glasses at night 22:42, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the message.
I likely won't post here often, since my main interest lies in Jack Thompsn and the current situation that I'm sure you know about by now. I am working with multiple peo-ple to expose him on national TV for who he is. If it is ok with you, we would like, if successful, to use your site as a kind of credit; I certainly found out quite a few things I did not previously know.

Barn

Weird that I just created User:Redwolf24/Vandals like right before you gave that to me... Redwolf24 06:50, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I know, I saw that and it made me think of it. Anyhow, what are you doing up at this hour of the morning? -- Essjay ·  Talk 08:28, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * Insomnia is teh sux. Plus this Wikipedians for decency thing is running me ragged, and I accidentally bit MONGO. Redwolf24 08:40, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Just delete it then. That's the consensus. Agriculture 08:41, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Too early. Redwolf24 08:42, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I see no policy stating how long it will have to be up, there is already an overwhelming consensus, and the creator of the article in question voted to delete. Delete it so we can all forget about it and get moving. Agriculture 08:44, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Most admins don't want to delete something just hours after it was posted. Plus as for me I can't close it as I voted. Its my own policy to not close what I voted on unless the votes were unanimous. And the vote of the creator isn't worth more than anyone else's sadly, except for at say, VfD's on user pages... Redwolf24 08:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, well you tried at least. Here's to the inevitable and hopefully quick deletion of that damn article. Agriculture 08:52, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

You win
In light of the fact that you're an admin, I'm giving in to your harassment. I'm taking a break from Wikipedia and your POV that I should not participate in discussions, even though I am being civil. You win, go have a parade. Goodbye. Agriculture 07:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The fact that I'm an admin doesn't mean my POV is worth anymore than yours. We have conflicting POV's and I believe that you hounding every vote different from your own is rather uncivil, picture it this way: you're a campaigner for Bill Clinton in '96 and you're watching the voting booth... and every time someone voted for Dole you would run up to them and list all the pro's of Mr. Clinton. Votes should be left alone and not intimadated. By the way I hope you come back soon as you are a great editor, despite our conflicting points of view. Respectfully, Redwolf24 07:52, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I hardly hounded every voter, as for coming back, doubtful. I am going to lurk for a bit, make sure some articles are fine, then leave entirely.  It has come to my attention that the fact that you are an administrator does matter.  I have witnessed admins pushing POV several times.  In addition, the fact that the article in question was a forum for discussion and facilitating the forming of a consensus yet so many voted against it without even reading the page says something else.  Wikipedia isn't about free speech, it's about censoring the wrong kinds of free speech.  Wikipedia is not and will likely never be an encyclopedia.  It's authority has already been questioned and the current move seems to be an ever increasing tide of vandals, and insertion of hard-core pornography which is defended as "free-speech" despite being possibly unencyclopedic.  It would be one thing if dicussion on this topic and what was appropriate were encouraged as Wikipedia suggests they would be.  The opposite is true however, and if you decide to try and stick up for free speech and discussion of these issues, moderators evidently harass you until you stop.
 * Well, as I said, you win, I'm stopping. Agriculture 08:01, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Edit summary
Your edit summary at Votes for deletion/WikiProject Wikipedians for Decency in regards to my vote placement was uncalled for, admin. In all honesty, I kept getting locked out and I didn't know it mattered where I put my vote at. It is only my second vote on a Vfd. I'm usually too busy writing articles and fighting over NPOV at George W Bush.--MONGO 08:31, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * My apologies MONGO, I see you around so much that I thought you were a veteran. I apologize for that summary now... this whole VfD is causing me some stress, paired up with Agriculture's continued sarcasm. Really, sorry. Sincerely, Redwolf24 08:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah more harrassment, FYI, I'm not being sarcastic, you'll note I'm not editing articles anymore, just a few talk pages while I wait on laundry. As I said before you win, and I mean it.  I'm leaving for good after making sure a few other articles are stable. Agriculture 08:38, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Your sarcasm would be referring to your delete vote. Redwolf24 08:41, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Of which I am dead serious. I say it officially, I fully believe the reasons stated on my delete vote.  Let that article burn. Agriculture 08:42, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Strong Delete - A forum for discussion of policies or other forms of free speech obviously have no place on Wikipedia. War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Agriculture 08:06, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * War is peace, Ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery? That seems more to push an argument rather than your actual point of view. Redwolf24 08:44, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

 * It's a quote from 1984, and directly tells to my opinion. I am dead serious, Wikipedia isn't a place for all free speech, just the right kinds of free speech.  That is my opinion and why I strongly support deletion of the article. Agriculture 08:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

hey, thanks!
Appreciate it! Antandrus (talk) 16:02, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

thank you
I replied to your note at User_talk:Sam_Spade, and looked over your user page. We share an interest in music. I collect music, and am approachimg 30,000 mp3's. We like some of the same bands, like Black Sabbath and Jethro Tull. My favorite style is folk metal, but I collect any kind of music I like the sound of, which includes most forms of metal. Maybe we can discuss music sometime, or I can help you w an article. Cheers, ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ 20:03, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Friends
Yay! And I like the BeeGee pic :) Howabout1 Talk to me! 21:38, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Your Vacation
Hello, Redwolf! I am glad you did have a good vacation. I was away too, that's why I haven't edited since last Wednesday and answered you about your vacation. -- Mike Garcia | talk 22:17, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

title: User:Redwolf24/Archive10


text:
Chris Appelgren

Chris Appelgren, also known as Chris Applecore, is an American record executive, illustrator, and musician who served owner and president of Lookout! Records from 1997 when label founder Larry Livermore and partner Patrick Hynes retired, until 2012 when the label folded due to financial troubles and non-payment of royalties. In addition, Appelgren has created original artwork and album designs for many punk bands including Blatz, Green Day, Screeching Weasel, The Queers, The Donnas, and Ted Leo and the Pharmacists.

Appelgren also performed as vocalist in bands The Pattern, The PeeChees and Bumblescrump and was the original drummer for The Potatomen as well as drumming for The Lefties.

title: Chris Appelgren


text: Category:Canadian history professors

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Bran-colored flycatcher

The bran-colored flycatcher (Myiophobus fasciatus) is a small passerine bird in the tyrant flycatcher family. It breeds from Costa Rica through South America to  Bolivia,  Uruguay, and Argentina. It also occurs on Trinidad.

This species is found in open forests and secondary growth. The deep cup nest is made of stems and bark and lined with fine plant fibers; it is suspended by the rim from a side branch low in a tree. The typical clutch is two cream-colored eggs with a rufous wreath. The female incubates for 17 days with a further 15–17 to fledging. This species is parasitized by the shiny cowbird.

The adult bran-colored flycatcher is 12.7 cm long and weighs 10.5g. The head and upperparts are dark reddish brown and the crown has a concealed yellow crest, which is erected by excited adults. There are two pale buff wing bars and the underparts are whitish shading to pale yellow on the belly and with dark streaking on the breast and flanks. The bill is black above and brown below. Sexes are similar, but young birds lack the crown patch.

Bran-colored flycatcher are solitary unobtrusive birds, sometimes difficult to see as they move rapidly through the undergrowth in search of small insects and berries. They have a whistled chep, chewee call.

title: Bran-colored flycatcher


text: User talk:210.49.223.214

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text: User talk:69.231.131.54

title: User talk:69.231.131.54