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User:Erwin Walsh/Decency Project/

Work in Progress
Wikipedians for Decency was started on August 15, 2005 to coordinate and promote standards of encyclopedic merit for inclusion on Wikipedia. This project is intended to coordinate efforts to bring articles to appropriate standards of quality control, as defined by Wikipedia policy, and Wikipedia guidelines to ensure Wikipedia continues to be regarded as the finest source of web based reference material available. See also Wikipedia as an academic source.

One aspect of encyclopedic merit relates to sexually explicit imagery and language. Specifically if some item of Wikipedia content appeals to only prurient interest as opposed to having encyclopedic value, it is generally preferred to substitute content that has encyclopedic value. The Miller test is illustrative in defining obscene material as that which taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest and lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. (SLAPS). A quasi-Miller SLAPS test is likely to closely match Wikipedia's meaning of "encyclopedic value."

However, the mission statement is primarily based on understanding that the purpose of this project has nothing to do with censorship. It is merely an attempt to help Wikipedia establish a level or baseline of merit and what constitutes encyclopedic merit. A review of this statement by Jimbo Wales helps us to establish what that baseline should be:

 * We don't show full-blown mainstream pornography on the front page of wikipedia as a matter of editorial taste and judgment.

Anyone who is interested in contributing, please sign up below and post any ideas and suggestions on the Talk page. Also, feel free to edit this page and add any articles that need serious work or that you feel require attention below in the Open Tasks sections. The notice board below is to inform members of the project of votes or other current Wikipedia events which warrant their attention with regards to this project.

Descendant WikiProjects

 * WikiProject Wikipedians against Censorship aims to stop censorship on Wikipedia.

Working standard for encyclopedic merit of images

 * WikiProject Wikipedians for encyclopedic merit/Working standard for encyclopedic merit of images - a place in the WikiProject namespace for a working standard on the encyclopedic merit of images.
 * Develop proposals for Wikipedia style guidelines about when images that might be offensive or disturbing to some readers should be included by indirect reference rather than within the main flow of an article (or otherwise masked). It may be appropriate for some articles discussing sexually explicit, violent, or otherwise potentially uncomfortable content to contain links along the lines of "Click for an image of X" rather than directly inline versions of those images.

Suggest constructive ways to modify the statement of policy
Current policies:
 * Wikipedia is not censored
 * Image_use_policy
 * Profanity
 * Undefined "no nudity policy" but that does not mean it must be G-rated
 * The current undefined "no nudity policy" is more on the lines of "no pornography" policy, the difference being that nudity could be found in an art museum, pornography could not.

Consider Possible Application of PICS
The mechanism designed to support 'content labelling' on the Web is PICS. This is feasible from a technical point of view, PICS is supported in IE and other browsers and is technically viable. Implementation in Wikipedia might require some code updates but this could probably be made painless by creating a special type of category linked to a PICS header.

Deployment of PICS would in a good faith world allow for labelling of potentially disturbing content in such a manner that would make it easier for wikipedia to be used in schools. It would also allow for automated detection of certain types of vandalism, an attempt to add a pornographic image to a random article could be flagged.

The problem with PICS is that it is likely to be abused. PICS is a censorship scheme (no matter what the promoters claimed). I think it is reasonable to control content that might be used in a classroom. I don't think it is reasonable, sensible or even desirable to attempt to control what teenagers view at home. Furthermore, the tagging of images would likely be seen as POV and warred over for many borderline cases.

Analyze legal liabilities Wikipedia may be exposed to
In the USA material with "serious, literary, artistic or scientific purpose" is generally free of exposure to obscenity prosecution. Recent legislation in the USA has reintroduced the concept of "indecency", often in relation to material provided to minors. While Wikipedia is not (and should not be) created or maintained to meet the latest laws of some particular jurisdiction, we would like to understand the areas where legal restrictions and encyclopedic merit intersect.

Develop understanding of "blue law" exposure

 * Find actual legal opinion about any obscenity/decency prosecution that Wikipedia might plausibly face due to the physical location of its servers (in Florida).
 * According to BD2412, a Florida attorney, Wikipedia is not threatened by Florida laws.
 * Determine where Wikipedia is, in fact, hosted from a legal perpective. Expanded co-hosting by Google, Yahoo, or by mirror sites in various places may affect judicability and standing in case of potential suit against Wikipedia.
 * Determine whether a change in location of physical servers would avoid legal liabilities, should such be determined to exist with current hosting.

Related discussions

 * Discussion on Full Frontal Nudity
 * Full Frontal Nudity and Encyclopedias Discussion
 * Jimbo's Removal of Autofellatio Image
 * Florida Law on Obscenity

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Talk:Araku Valley

Editing the page to prevent copyright problems
I have edited the page so that it doesnt have any copyright issues. I request one of the senior users to look into this and restore the page.

-- Sumanthk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumanthk (talk • contribs) 11:47, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank You Sumanth This is Kp i have put up the page initially but am new to this
 * KP — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gladiatorkp (talk • contribs) 10:55, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Image Gallery
Note that per our image use policy, gallery sections are discouraged and especially not used in articles like this. To repeat the policy, "Images are typically interspersed individually throughout an article near the relevant text (see WP:MOSIMAGES)". For further information, check the link to the image use policy. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 20:24, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Number of railway stations
Currently, the article states that there are two railway stations (possibly "Araku" or "Araku valley") but there's just Araku railway station. If two is wrong, someone correct it. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 02:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Yahweh ben Yahweh

Split?
This article could do with splitting into one article about the Nation of Yahweh organisation and one about its leader, Yahweh ben Yahweh. Also we need more distinction between the organisation's beliefs and practices and the criminal practices that have happened in the past.--62.252.64.15 11:48, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

I just did that, Nation of Yahweh is now its own article. I also did a fairly radical rewrite of this article.--T. Anthony 12:04, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

is he still in prison?
The current articles states that Y-b-Y is out on parole. This conflicts with today's (10/7/06) CNN reporting stating he is in prison requesting early release because he has cancer.

This article needs serious clean up for accuracy.

See AP reporting below:

MIAMI, Florida (AP) -- Yahweh Ben Yahweh, a former cult leader linked to nearly two dozen gruesome killings in the 1980s, is seeking immediate release from parole supervision because he has advanced cancer and wants to "die with dignity," his lawyers said Friday.

Yahweh, 70, is asking U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke to order the federal Parole Commission to make a quick decision on whether to terminate parole in his case. He lives in the Miami area.

"He is not a risk of flight. He is not a danger to the community. He is frail and he is dying," his attorney Jayne Weintraub said. "It's time for the bars to be removed."

Yahweh can no longer walk because of bone and nerve damage from the cancer, according to his doctor. "His prognosis is extremely poor and death appears imminent," Dr. Wynne A. Steinsnyder wrote in a September 28 letter filed with the court.

Yahweh, a self-proclaimed "Black Messiah," served 11 years of an 18-year federal prison sentence for a racketeering conviction stemming from his role in up to 23 murders, some involving beheadings and severed ears and fingers.

He was born Hulon Mitchell Jr. in Oklahoma but changed his name to the Hebrew words for "God, son of God." His Nation of Yahweh boasted hundreds of followers who often dressed all in white. 16:09, 7 October 2006 User:208.54.94.1

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Leona Mitchell
The Cleveland Plain Dealer says that she's this guy's sister. Is that true or worth a mention?--T. Anthony 00:49, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

it should be mentioned that he has a sister

 * It appears to be true and I added it. I hope it isn't awkward for her, but if it were it would be something she's likely dealt with for a long time.--T. Anthony (talk) 13:41, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

poorly written page.
During the stories of him ordering the deatrhs of a martial artist, The author mentioned several people that weren't priviously mentioned. So who is mithcell,gaines or dupree? I assume foot soldiers but still. poorly written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.79.202.26 (talk) 01:42, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

his name
I've seen TV programs where his name is mentioned. I can't tell precisely what they are saying, but it sounds like there is a variation of his name that has more than just "ben" in between the two "Yahweh" parts. If this is case, the "alternate" name (or alternate pronunciation) should probably be put into the article. I don't know much about this religion but if I understand it right, it could be his son's name. I'm not sure either way. Can anyone clarify this for me?--Rockfang (talk) 13:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yaweh ben Yaweh is Hebrew for God son of God. YHWH (Hebrew is written without vowels) is the name of God in the book of Exodus. No real Jew would call himself by that name. YHWH is considered the most sacred, most holy name for God so much so the Jews never pronounced it out loud to avoid taking God's name in vain. And their scribes when making copies of the scrolls went through elaborate "cleansing" rituals every time they copied down the name. 40.131.138.126 (talk) 19:27, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Article sorely needs to explain the why he chose himself the name "Yahweh ben Yahweh"
...and also the give the etymology of the aforesaid "Yahweh ben Yahweh" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.117.210 (talk) 20:43, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Zebra Killers
This group of black racists received the name "zebra killer" because they murdered white people. They kept a point system for the people that they murdered. I.E. women, children etc. were are given different point values. They also believed Richmond California was a "holy city" tied specifically to a black Muslim group residing in Richmond. 2600:1700:3810:2370:F0E6:2774:696F:9FB9 (talk) 17:18, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Paris in the Twentieth Century

Found in 1989: really?
This page says: "In truth the whereabouts of the manuscript were known for many years, the story of the discovery was created as a marketing ploy."

Now, the current article offers no proof that it was REALLY found in 1989, and that page offers no proof that the discovery was just a marketing ploy. How should the article be modified?

Devil Master 13:48, 02 Sep 2005 (MET)

 * I've just greatly expanded this article, which was, in truth, a stub. To answer the charge above, I did some research on this book on Google, and found not one critic questioning it. The link provided above seems to be an unsubstantiated opinion, though many critics did say the book was "hyped" far beyond its true value, even though it was an important find. I also highly doubt a publisher would "sit" on an unpublished Jules Verne. Something like that is a guaranteed money-maker, and in fact was. Nhprman 21:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I wonder also,some predictions in this book are too "accurate" to be true.May some ghost writer imitate Verne to conceive this one.Ksyrie 23:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * A biography on Jules Verne on The History Channel included quite a bit of info about this book. It made reference to a letter from Verne's publisher at the time citing reasons why they didn't want to go ahead with the publication. I'll make some notes the next time it is shown and see if I can't expand upon what is already in the article. The impression I got from the bio was that the book was genuinely written by Verne as there seemed to be supporting period-evidence of the books existence.
 * Matthew king 15:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Public Domain?
Shouldn't this book be in the public domain like other works of Verne are? I couldn't find it on any online Verne library. 193.171.121.30 18:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

The book was written in the 19th century, but it wasnt published until very recently, thus its copyright will still hold for the nexy century or so. 128.208.40.60 05:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Short version: The earliest version of the story (i.e. Verne's original manuscript) is public domain. The newly released editions and their translations may be copyrighted. Call me cynic, but I doubt the verbatim original manuscript text is available to the public in any form, public domain or not. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 22:44, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/15959/french-copyright-law-for-posthumous-works-a-book suggests, that the contents of the french version will join the public domain in 2019 or 2020; at least in france. The book was published more then 70 years after the authors death, thus the clause about 25 years after publication takes effect. 217.9.115.81 (talk) 07:25, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

'Worldwide communication network'
I doubt that Verne thought of the internet as such, when he talked about a 'Worldwide communication network', considering that the television had not yet been invented. I think it's more likely that Verne would have been thinking of some sort of worldwide telegraph network, or if he was being extra fanciful, perhaps some sort of worldwide gramophone network, whereby people could listen to other people's voices, anywhere in the world.

'Fax Machine'
The first concept of a fax machine was 1851, so it predated this book by a few years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tthackrey (talk • contribs) 18:16, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Louvre centerpiece
I think the characterization of the Louvre's centerpiece in Verne's novel as "geometric" and "modern" is inaccurate. Verne wrote:

"... Are there sculptors, at least? None whatsoever, ever since they planted the Muse of Industry right in the middle of the Louvre courtyard: a vigorous shrew crouching over some sort of cylinder, holding a viaduct on her knees, pumping with one hand, working a bellows with the other, a necklace of little locomotives around her neck, and a lightning rod in her chignon!"

This bears little resemblance to the modern abstract pyramid, and the suggestion that it does is misleading.

Cfscare (talk) 22:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I've yanked both those sections, they were totally unreferenced and as bad as those lists of things Star Trek "predicted" get. Wow, Verne read about inventions and imagined ways they could be more widely applied and was right about some of them. Herr Gruber (talk) 07:58, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Michel Freezing to death
He didn't freeze to death. He merely collapsed in the snow (last line of the book)

TheKurgan (talk) 17:10, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for spoiling the story. Why else do you think someone would collapse in the snow? (WP Editor 2011 (talk) 00:52, 7 July 2012 (UTC))
 * Exhaustion? Collapsing can just mean fainting. Herr Gruber (talk) 07:58, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The public domain date
I don't known why this book is still not in public domain. Could You explain it more? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries%27_copyright_length_based_on_publication_and_creation_dates states that this is in public domain, even in USA or UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.68.103.25 (talk) 12:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * If you wanted to be sure, you should have looked at a more accurate and authoritative source than Wikipedia. Copyright is based on the year of first publication if the work was unpublished during the life of the author. Since this was only published a few years ago, the copyright is still going. (WP Editor 2011 (talk) 00:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC))

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Chandrabindoo (band)

Chandrabindoo (often spelled Chandrabindu), based in Kolkata, is a Bengali band known for satirical, colloquial lyrics, with references to current affairs and cultural phenomena.

The band is chiefly popular in the Indian city of Kolkata, and in cities like Delhi and Mumbai that have a large expatriate Bengali population.

Name Origin
The band shares its name with the last letter (technically a modifier) of the Bengali alphabet, ◌̐. The name is a reference to a piece of dialogue from Sukumar Ray's হযবরল HaJaBaRaLa, a well-known work of literary nonsense in Bengali.

বেড়াল বলল, “বেড়ালও বলতে পার, রুমালও বলতে পার, চন্দ্রবিন্দুও বলতে পার।” আমি বললাম, “চন্দ্রবিন্দু কেন?”

শুনে বেড়ালটা “তাও জানো না?” বলে এক চোখ বুজে ফ্যাচ্‌ফ্যাচ্ করে বিশ্রীরকম হাসতে লাগল। আমি ভারি অপ্রস্তুত হয়ে গেলাম। মনে হল, ঐ চন্দ্রবিন্দুর কথাটা নিশ্চয় আমার বোঝা উচিত ছিল। তাই থতমত খেয়ে তাড়াতাড়ি বলে ফেললাম, “ও হ্যাঁ-হ্যাঁ, বুঝতে পেরেছি।”

বেড়ালটা খুশি হয়ে বলল, “হ্যাঁ, এ তো বোঝাই যাচ্ছে— চন্দ্রবিন্দুর চ, বেড়ালের তালব্য শ, রুমালের মা— হল চশমা। কেমন, হল তো?”

The cat said "You can call me a cat, or a handkerchief, or even a chandrabindoo". "Why a chandrabindoo?" I asked.

"Can't you tell?" said the cat, winking and sniggering in a most irritating way. I was taken aback. Perhaps I ought to have known about the chandrabindoo, I thought. "Ah!" I said quickly. "I understand".

"Of course you do,"said the Cat, pleased. "‘cha’ for chandrabindoo, ‘sha’ for birāl (cat), and ‘mā’ for rumāl (handkerchief) - that spells ‘chashma’(spectacles) Simple, isn't it?"

Early days
The band faced many problems during the production of their first album Aar Jani Na, having to produce their demo with the help of an out-of-date sound mixer. It was released in 1998, and got a lukewarm response. However, they came to the attention of Gautam Chattopadhyay of Mohiner Ghoraguli, and he recommended them to Asha Audio, who released their second album Gadha. The first public live show of Chandrabindoo was held in Gyan Manch near Rabindra Sadan, Kolkata.

Band members
and Tirthankar as sound engineer.
 * Upal Sengupta – singer/ music composer/ lead vocal
 * Anindya Chatterjee – singer/ music composer/ lead vocal
 * Chandril Bhattacharya – lyricist/music composer/ vocal
 * Arup Podder – bassist
 * Surojit Mukherjee – guitarist/ arranger
 * Rajshekhar Kundu – drummer
 * Sibabrata Biswas aka Sibu – keyboardist
 * Sourabh – percussionist

Former members
Chandrabindoo's former members include Subrato Lodh, Subrato Ghosh, Sukhendu, Subhendu, Debapriyo, Tennie, Lintu, Santanu, Arindam, Pritam, Dron Acharya, Riju, Kallol, Rajesh, Riddhi, Chandan, Papa, Jisshu Sengupta, Neepabeethi Ghosh, Lopamudra Mitra.

Discography
Studio Albums

 * Aar Jani Na (আর জানি না, Lit: Don't Know Any More) (1997), T-Series
 * Gadha (গাধা, Lit: Donkey) (1998), Asha Audio
 * Twaker Jatna Nin (ত্বকের যত্ন নিন, Lit: Take Care Of Your Skin) (1999), Asha Audio
 * Chaw (চ, Lit: Let's Go) (2001), Asha Audio
 * Daknam (ডাকনাম, Lit: Nickname) (2002), Sony BMG
 * Juju (জুজু, Lit: The Bugbear) (2003), Sony Music
 * Hulabila (হুলাবিলা, Lit: Hullabaloo) (2005), Sagarika
 * U/A (ইউ/এ, Lit: U/A) (2008), BIG Music
 * Noy (নয়, Lit: Nine) (2012), Kaleidoscope

Compilation Albums

 * Chandrabindaas (চন্দ্রবিন্দাস, Lit: Chandrabindoo is Bindaas) (2005)
 * Ebhabeo Phire Asha Jae (এভাবেও ফিরে আসা যায়, Lit: Even that's a Comeback) (2005)
 * Bachhai 11 (বাছাই ১১, Lit: Selected 11) (2006)
 * Sera Chandrabindoo (সেরা চন্দ্রবিন্দু, Lit: Best Of Chandrabindoo) (2008)

Other work
They made their first international tour in July 2015, when they performed in London in aid of the Kolkata-based Child In Need Institute (CINI). Chandrabindoo is the official brand ambassador for CINI ASHA.

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Christopher Bland

Sir Francis Christopher Buchan Bland (29 May 1938 – 28 January 2017) was a British businessman and politician. He was deputy chairman of the Independent Television Authority (1972), which was renamed the Independent Broadcasting Authority in the same year, and chairman of London Weekend Television (1984) and of the Board of Governors of the BBC (1996 to 2001), when he took up a position as chairman of British Telecommunications plc (BT). He left his position with BT in September 2007. Before leaving BT, he became chairman of the Royal Shakespeare Company, in 2004.

Bland held many concurrent chairmanships and directorships, including chairman of Century Hutchinson Group (1984), the Edinburgh-based Canongate Publishing, the National Freight Corporation, known as NFC PLC (1994), and Life Sciences International PLC (1987), and Directorship of National Provident (1978), and Storehouse PLC (1988) among others.

Bland had a long-standing interest in the cultivation of wine, and in 1995 bought a 19th-century house with a large wine cellar containing numbered alcoves to accommodate 1,000 bottles of Bordeaux, 100 bottles of Champagne, and 120 bins of white Burgundy. Two years later, he bought a small vineyard next to his home in Gascony in France, planting Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot, producing about 1,000 litres a year. He was chairman of Leiths School of Food and Wine, which he bought jointly with Caroline Waldegrave in 1994.

Early life and education
Bland was born in Yokohama, Japan, where he lived for his first two years. His father worked for Shell and moved around the world; Bland and his younger brother were largely brought up by relatives in Northern Ireland.

Bland was educated at Sedbergh School, a boarding independent school for boys (now co-educational) in Cumbria in North West England and The Queen's College at the University of Oxford. While at Oxford he was a member of the Irish Olympic fencing team in 1960; he captained the Oxford University Fencing and Modern Pentathlon teams. Bland spent his National Service with the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards and afterwards became involved in Conservative Party politics.

Life and career
Together with Christopher Brocklebank-Fowler he wrote a pamphlet in 1964 on immigration, urging fewer controls over entry and more effort to integrate immigrant communities. He worked as a management consultant with Booz Allen Hamilton.

Bland was elected as a member of the Greater London Council for Lewisham from 1967, and later became Chairman of the Schools committee of the ILEA. He was elected chairman of the Bow Group think tank on 10 April 1969 to 1970 and also edited its magazine Crossbow. With his business career demanding more time, he stood down from the GLC at the 1970 election.

During the 1970s, Bland ran the construction and engineering firm Beyer Peacock and printers Sir Joseph Causton & Sons. On 29 June 1972, it was announced that he was to become deputy chairman of the Independent Television Authority (later the Independent Broadcasting Authority) for a term from 1 July 1972 to 31 July 1976. Shortly afterwards he moved from Booz Allen Hamilton to First National Finance Corporation (1973–74). Bland retained his involvement in politics and was critical of changes made by Margaret Thatcher to Conservative Central Office staff shortly after her election as Leader in 1975. In 1976, he put his name to a supporting statement issued by the National Campaign for Electoral Reform. He was given a second four-year term at the IBA from 1976 to 1980.

In 1981, Bland married Jennifer Mary Denise May, now known as Lady Bland (from 1963 to 1981 married to Viscount Enfield, when she was titled Lady Enfield), and the daughter of William May, the former Ulster Unionist Party MP for the Ards constituency in County Down, and Minister for Education for Northern Ireland in the 1950s. The Bland family, consisting of the couple, their son, Archie Bland, and four stepchildren, lived at Abbots Worthy House, the home of Lady Bland and her former husband, later the Earl of Strafford, in the village of Abbots Worthy in Hampshire, with a London flat in Catherine Place, near St James's Park, moving their main residence to Blissamore Hall in the village of Clanville near Andover (also in Hampshire), in 1998. From 1 January 1982, Bland joined the board of LWT (Holdings) and on 1 January 1984 succeeded John Freeman as chairman of the main board of LWT. He was a director of ITN and GMTV, and Chairman of Century Hutchinson, then an LWT subsidiary. When, after the 1993 franchise renewal, LWT was taken over by Granada in a hotly contested hostile bid, Bland became a millionaire.

From 1982 to 1994, Bland was chairman of the Hammersmith and Queen Charlotte's Hospitals NHS special health authority, subsequently chairing Hammersmith Hospitals NHS Trust, including Charing Cross Hospital, from 1994 to February 1997. He was knighted for his work in the National Health Service in 1993. He was chairman of the BBC's board of governors between 1996 and 2001. He was chairman of the Royal Shakespeare Company between 2004 and 2011, during which time the Royal Shakespeare Theatre in Stratford upon Avon was rebuilt at a cost of around £113 million. Bland held other public sector roles: as chairman of the Private Finance Panel from 1995 to 1996 and as a member of the Prime Minister's Advisory Panel on the Citizen's Charter.

Bland was chairman of the BT Board from 1 May 2001 and until September 2007. He was a former senior adviser at Warburg Pincus (a private equity firm), chairman and a substantial shareholder in Canongate Press and Leiths School of Food and Wine, and was appointed chairman of the Royal Shakespeare Company in April 2004. Bland set about "his greatest extravagance: Buying books and anything by Eric Gill, the 20th-century British painter and sculptor".

His first novel, Ashes in the Wind, was published by Head of Zeus in September 2014.

Personal life
Bland was the father of print journalist and former deputy editor of The Independent newspaper, Archie Bland, and from 1981 became stepfather to four children, who include the 9th Earl of Strafford, the author Lady Georgia Byng, and the managing director of the Edinburgh-based publishing house Canongate Books, Jamie Byng, following his wife's earlier marriage to Viscount Enfield (1963–1981).

Death
Bland's death was announced by his son Archie on Twitter on 28 January 2017. He had been suffering from prostate cancer.

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Talk:Calcium carbimide

Would you happen to have any pointers to that alleged discontinuation? Odyssey Pharmaceuticals lists Antabuse as their product, and FDA lists it marketing status as "Prescription". Juhaz 11:51, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't have pointers, I have pharmacists. It has been unavailable in Canada for some time, and must be prepared by hand. Denni ☯ 00:41, 2005 September 3 (UTC)
 * Canada isn't the whole world... Juhaz
 * If it were available from a pharmaceutical supplier, it would be available in Canada. It's not as though there are laws against it. It's that it can't be had. Denni ☯ 18:25, 2005 September 5 (UTC)

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Allison Beckford

Allison J. Beckford (born 8 May 1979 in Westmoreland) is a Jamaican sprinter competing in the 400 metres. She attended the Manning's School in Savanna-la-Mar, Westmoreland, Jamaica, where she was one of the star athletes coached by Howard Daugharty. She was also academically astute passing several CXC (Caribbean Examination Council) exams and also A-levels exams after completing her upper six forms education. Her personal best of 50.83 was set in 2002. She has also competed in 400 m hurdles.

Beckford was a part of the Jamaican team that won the bronze medal in the 4 x 400 metres relay at the 2003 World Championships in Athletics. She was not selected for the bronze-winning relay team at the 2004 Summer Olympics. She did compete in the 400 metre race, but suffered a severe hamstring injury.

Beckford is a relative of long jumper James Beckford. She attended Rice University in Houston Texas.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack mock

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The result of the debate was speedy deleted -- Joolz 17:45, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Jack mock
Vanity, and even if not vanity, complete rubbish. Enochlau 11:52, 2 September 2005 (UTC) Speedy delete and tagged as such. klenk 12:14, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - It sounds rubbish! UniReb 12:39, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 14:40, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
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Lostock railway station

Lostock railway station serves the suburbs of Heaton and Lostock in Bolton, Greater Manchester, England. Built for the Liverpool and Bury Railway in 1852, the station was closed in 1966, then reopened on a smaller scale in 1988 to serve commuters.

According to large scale Ordnance Survey maps and local usage, the surrounding area is named Lostock Junction and the station is referred to as such by many local people. Network Rail's "location map" uses the same name. This is similar to the situation in London where Clapham Junction railway station is in fact in Battersea, and the surrounding area has taken the name of Clapham Junction. Lostock itself is over a mile to the west of the station.

History
The railway line between Bolton and Preston had opened as far as Rawlinson Bridge (between Adlington and Chorley) on 4 February 1841, and among the original stations on this route, the first station out of Bolton was at Blackrod. On 20 November 1848, the Liverpool and Bury Railway was opened giving a route between Bolton and Wigan, and the point where it connected to the Bolton–Preston line was named Lostock Junction; the first station out of Bolton on this route was Westhoughton. Later, a station was constructed at the junction, also named Lostock Junction, which opened around August 1852. The station gave its name to the village which grew around it. This station had platforms on both the Preston and Wigan routes.

On 17 July 1920, four people were killed and 148 were injured in a near head-on collision between two Lancashire & Yorkshire Railway passenger trains at Lostock Junction due to a signal having erroneously been ignored at danger.

Lostock Junction Station closed on 7 November 1966 as part of the programme of cuts initiated by the Beeching Report of 1963. However, on 16 May 1988 the station was reopened, but now with platforms only on the Preston route and renamed Lostock Parkway, a large car park for the use of park-and-ride commuters having been provided. The suffix "Parkway" was later dropped.

Services
The two-platform station is served by two Northern services per hour southbound to Manchester Airport via Manchester Piccadilly and northbound to Preston and Blackpool North. It is a popular commuter station.

Saturday and Sunday services were replaced by buses most weekends from May 2015 until November 2018 due to the late-running electrification work on the route. Weekend services resumed on Sunday 11 November 2018 after the completion of the electrification engineering work.

Electric service commenced on Monday 11 February 2019, operated by Class 319 electric multiple units.

Sunday services are reduced to 1 train per hour, with 4 services on Sunday mornings terminating at Manchester Oxford Road. All services are operated using electric units.

Before the December 2022 timetable change, services from Lostock were one train per hour in each direction, with only the Airport services stopping here. The amount of trains was increased from one to two trains per hour after the services were rerouted to both terminate at Manchester Airport.

Station improvements
Most recently in early 2009, the station has had a passenger information display system installed, giving waiting passengers on the platforms information about trains that are due to arrive. Fully computer automated, it is also equipped with an audio speaker system, giving the benefit of announcements of train arrivals and delays. During December 2008 - Spring 2009 the car park facilities were greatly improved by extending and resurfacing the land surrounding the railway, with the addition of floodlighting and CCTV. In April 2023, the stations information dot-matrix display screens were replaced.

Facilities
The station has a ticket office, which is staffed from start of service until 19:35, six days per week (closed Sundays). A ticket vending machine is in place for purchase of tickets or promise to pay coupons when the ticket office is closed and for the collection of pre-paid tickets. Shelters are located on each platform and both have step-free access (via ramps northbound).

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Gezira Scheme

The Gezira Scheme (مشروع الجزيرة) is one of the largest irrigation projects in the world. It is centered on the Sudanese state of Gezira, just southeast of the confluence of the Blue and White Nile rivers at the city of Khartoum. The Gezira Scheme was begun by the British while the area was governed as part of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan. Water from the Blue Nile is distributed through canals and ditches to tenant farms lying between the Blue and White Nile.

The Gezira (which means "island") is particularly suited to irrigation because the soil slopes away from the Blue Nile and water therefore naturally runs through the irrigation canals by gravity. The soil has a high clay content which keeps down losses from seepage. Reginald Wingate, the British governor-general of Sudan, originally envisaged the farmers growing wheat but this was abandoned as the colonial authorities thought that a better cash crop was needed. When it was discovered that Egyptian-type long staple cotton could be grown, this was welcomed as a better choice as it would also provide a raw material for the British textile industry. Cotton was first grown in the area in 1904. After many experiments with irrigation, 24 km2 was put under cultivation in 1914.

After the lowest Nile flood for 200 years, the Sennar Dam was constructed on the Blue Nile to provide a reservoir of water. This dam was completed in 1925 and is about 3 km long. The Gezira Scheme was initially financed by the Sudan Plantations Syndicate in London and later the British government guaranteed capital to develop it. The Sudan Gezira Board took over from private enterprise in 1950 and was chaired by Arthur Gaitskell.

Farmers cooperated with the Sudanese government and the Gezira Board. This network of canals and ditches was 4300 km long, and with the completion in the early 1960s of the Manaqil Extension on the western side of the Gezira Scheme, by 2008 the irrigated area covered 8800 km2, about half the country's total land under irrigation. The main crop grown in this region was still cotton.

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Rustaveli

Rustaveli may refer to:
 * Shota Rustaveli (1172–1216), a Georgian poet
 * Rustaveli Avenue in Tbilisi, Georgia named after the poet
 * Rustaveli Theatre, a drama theatre in Tbilisi named after the poet
 * Rustaveli (Tbilisi Metro), a Tbilisi Metro station named after the poet
 * Rustaveli cinema, a movie theater in Tbilisi
 * The title of the Georgian Orthodox bishop of Rustavi (and of Marneuli)

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Nothing by mouth

Nothing by mouth is an American medical instruction meaning to withhold food and fluids. It is also known as nil per os (npo or NPO), a Latin phrase that translates to English as "nothing through the mouth". Nil by mouth is the term used in the UK (NBM), nihil/non/nulla per os, or complete bowel rest. A liquid-only diet may also be referred to as bowel rest.

NPO is one of the abbreviations that is not used in AMA style; "nothing by mouth" is spelled out instead.

Purpose
The typical reason for NPO instructions is the prevention of aspiration pneumonia, e.g. in those who will undergo general anesthesia, or those with weak swallowing musculature, or in case of gastrointestinal bleeding, gastrointestinal blockage, or acute pancreatitis. Alcohol overdoses that result in vomiting or severe external bleeding also warrant NPO instructions for a period.

Duration
Pre-surgery NPO orders are typically between 6 and 12 hours prior to surgery, through recovery suite discharge, but may be longer if long acting medications or oral post-meds were administered. It is not uncommon for the food NPO period to be longer than that for liquid, as the American Board of Anesthesiology advises against liquid NPO periods greater than eight hours. The NPO periods for illness tend to be much longer, although exceptions are made for small scheduled amounts of water consumption if an IV drip is not in use. With sufficient IV fluids, NPO periods of several days have been utilized successfully in non-diabetic patients (although short NPO periods in diabetics are possible with IV fluids, insulin, and dextrose. Extended periods (greater than 12 hours) are still contraindicated).

The American Board of Anesthesiology recommends that patients should not eat solid food for at least 8 hours prior to a procedure, and should not drink even clear liquids for at least 2 hours prior. Clear liquid fasting includes water, juices without pulp, carbonated beverages, clear tea, and black coffee. Ingestion of water 2 hours prior to a procedure results in smaller gastric volumes and higher gastric pH when compared with those who ingested > 4 hours prior. The volume of liquid is less important than the type of liquid ingested. Non-emergency surgical cases should be delayed for NPO status.

When nothing by mouth or a liquid-only diet is indicated for an extended period, enteral feeding or total parenteral nutrition may be recommended.

Unrestricted clear fluids
Fasting guidelines often restrict the intake of any oral fluid after two to six hours preoperatively. However, it has been demonstrated in a large retrospective analysis in Torbay Hospital that unrestricted clear oral fluids right up until transfer to theatre could significantly reduce the incidence of postoperative nausea and vomiting without an increased risk in the adverse outcomes for which such conservative guidance exists.

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Kom El Sultan

The area now known as Kom El Sultan is located in north Abydos, in Egypt. The most prominent feature of the area is the remains of a great mud brick temenos wall enclosing roughly 76,800 square meters of land. The southwest wall is the only wall which remains fully intact (although some of the wall faces have broken), stretching for 327 meters with an average thickness of 7 meters, and preserved, in places, up to a height of more than 5 meters above ground level. The original height is unknown. In the early days of excavation here, only the enclosed area in the northwest corner of the temenos wall was referred to as Kom el-Sultan, however today this term has come to include the entire area confined by the temenos wall, which contained the ancient town and temple site of Abydos.

Mariette, Garstang, Petrie, Adams, and Marlar have all conducted excavations within Kom el-Sultan. Mariette worked in the northwest corner of the temenos wall, which was the original Kom el-Sultan. Garstang conducted “cursory excavation" in the area for survey and mapping purposes only. Petrie excavated in the local northern section where he found the only known statue of Khufu as well as architecture which he interpreted as phases of the Osiris temple (from the Early Dynastic Period to the 26th Dynasty). Adams uncovered part of the Old Kingdom and First Intermediate Period town site in the local southern section; and, Marlar excavated the Osiris temple proper, discovering both a New Kingdom and 30th Dynasty phases of the temple.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Powelly

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The result of the debate was Speedy delete, joke article. Thue | talk 18:36, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Powelly
Looks like a bad joke Enochlau 11:59, 2 September 2005 (UTC) Speedy delete -- it is a penis masturbation nonsense rant. I have tagged "Speedy delete." klenk 12:10, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - This article also sounds rubbish! UniReb 12:40, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.

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Charles Lillard

Charles "Red" Lillard (February 26, 1944 – March 27, 1997) was an American-born poet and historian who spent much of his adult life in British Columbia and became a Canadian citizen in 1967. He wrote extensively about the history and culture of British Columbia, Southeast Alaska and the Pacific Northwest.

Early life and education
Lillard was born in Long Beach, California and raised in Ketchikan, Alaska. His parents made a living from fishing. Lillard attended the University of British Columbia, earning a Bachelor of Arts and Master of Fine Arts.

Career
Lillard published several books of poetry; his work was also included in literary publications and anthologies. His collection Shadow Weather was shortlisted for the Governor General's Award.

Lillard wrote extensively, and also collected and published stories, about the history of Canada's west coast. His book Seven Shillings a Year: the History of Vancouver Island won a BC Book Award in 1986. Lillart also wrote many stories of his travels and experiences in an informal style; he has been criticized for including names of people in his reminiscences without explaining who they were.

In 1978, 1979,and 1981 Lillard was co-editor (with Robin Skelton) of three themed issues, "The West Coast Renaissance" of the literary magazine The Malahat Review. In 2016 a foundation was set up in Lillard's name which presents an award each year to an author whose non-fiction work has appeared in The Malahat Review.

He died of cancer, at his home in Oak Bay, British Columbia in 1997. He left his wife, writer Rhonda Batchelor Lillard, and two children, Benjamin (b. 1984) and Joanna (b. 1986).

Poetry

 * Cultus Coulee - 1971
 * Drunk on Wood - 1973
 * Jabble - 1975
 * Voice, My Shaman - 1976
 * Poems - 1979 (with Doug Beardsley)
 * Circling North - 1988
 * Shadow Weather: Poems, Selected and New - 1996

Fiction

 * A Coastal Range - 1984 (nominated for the Ethel Wilson Fiction Prize)

Non-fiction

 * Seven Shillings a Year - 1986
 * Fernwood Files - 1989 (with J. Ellis)
 * The Brother, XII, B.C. Magus: A Quest for The Brother, XII - 1989 (with Ron MacIsaac and Don Clark)
 * Land of Destiny - 1991 (with Michael Gregson)
 * Just East of Sundown - 1995
 * A Voice Great Within Us: The Story of Chinook - 1998 (with Terry Glavin)

Anthologies

 * In the Wake of the War Canoe - 1981
 * Dreams of Freedom: Bella Coola, Cape Scott, Sointula - 1982
 * Warriors of the North Pacific: Missionary Accounts of the Northwest Coast, The Skeena and Stikine Rivers, and the Klondike, 1829-1900 - 1984
 * Nootka - 1986
 * The Ghostland People - 1989
 * The Call of the Coast - 1992

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User talk:Francis Schonken/Arrigo disruption

=Preparation for an RfC/User conduct=
 * ''If this would ever get filed, it would probably be at Requests for comment/Arrigo=217.140.193.123

 * (Arrigo | talk | contributions) = (217.140.193.123 | talk | contributions)

Statement of the dispute
There are two problems appearing through the above: Putting these two together I think "some" action should follow --Francis Schonken 12:25, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * one that is subject to interpretation of the applicability of the WP:POINT guideline: Arrigo's behaviour is disrupting talk on things that are already not easy, which he was perfectly aware of.
 * a minor one that is nonetheless objective: Arrigo listing users on WP:VIP, without anything happening that could fall under the non-standard warning messages he posted only shortly before on the talk pages of two users (Francis Schonken and Pmanderson).

Description

 * This section was first posted here, in response to this.

217.140.193.123 and Arrigo are the same, it has been established already a long time ago. Thanks for the links that showed that. Maybe, now that I see these links, I could've found them myself, sorry I wasn't aware it was so easy to establish.

Moreover, this user has been disrupting in votes already so many times, as shows from the links you posted on my talk page. As I said before, personally I think he/she does this merely to collect material for "lamest edit wars ever", to which he/she contributes under both names.

So, the behaviour of this user continues, trying to escape ban by staying very close to what is "officially" allowed, so could only be taken out by application of WP:POINT, while "Gaming the system", or else merely for sockpuppeteering while asked several times over several months to stop that.

The problem is a bit that "Gaming the system" needs an admin to want to go into this a bit deeper, while usually on the outside not so much seems at hand. The scheme is usually as follows: one of the two starts a "reasonable", but very detailed, discussion or lists a WP:RM; then other users join in in the discussion; then, under the name with which 217.140.193.123/Arrigo started the discussion he starts to behave slightly less reasonable, e.g. moving stuff around without apparent reason or starting the same discussion on a completely different page without mentioning to the people in the first discussion he starts a separate thread, etc...; then the other people after some time get a bit nervous for the disruptive behaviour; only then 217.140.193.123/Arrigo switches personality, protecting the unreasonable moves of the other character, advocating neutrality or whatever; finally he lists the whole thing with some exaggeration on "Lamest edit wars ever" or whatever similar BJAODN page.

If an admin is asked to evaluate whether or not this was disruptive behaviour this admin needs at least half an hour of clicks checking "history" of several pages, so usually the admin (no offense intended!) resolves it quicker by thinking yeah, probably all of them went a bit close to the edge, or something in that vein. So that 217.140.193.123/Arrigo can complete the scheme up to the BJAODN listing.

I don't know what to do next. The WP:VIP request I filed yesterday (Vandalism_in_progress) did not trigger any action yet (except 217.140.193.123 and Arrigo both filing false accusations, one on the WP:VIP page and one on my user talk page as far as I can see). Do I have to wait somewhat more for WP:VIP to take effect, or is there anything else that can be done?

What I'll do for the time being is list on WP:AIV again, with a link to this section on your talk page, maybe that's the fastest way. If, however, you think this should be tackled in another way, please let me know ASAP.

--Francis Schonken 08:23, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Evidence of disputed behavior

 * This section continues talk on User_talk:HappyCamper and User talk:MarkSweep

Re. the 217.140.193.120 == Arrigo problem I was trying to think about a way of showing the disruptive character of this editor, without an admin needing to click half an hour in edit histories.

The best one I could come up with is this sequence of events:
 * 1)   20:35, 1 September 2005, User 217.140.193.123 (= Arrigo) posts following comment on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles), in the section that uniquely treats Elisabeth of Bohemia:"The idea in this talkpage is to discuss changes to naming conventions, not of changes to individual articles. 217.140.193.123 20:35, 1 September 2005 (UTC)"
 * 2) Since it seems logical to merge the discussion with the discussion going on at the same time at Talk:Elisabeth of Bohemia (a discussion on that page triggered by Arrigo = 217.140.193.123!!!), I move the content of the "Elisabeth of Bohemia" section on the "naming conventions talk page" to "talk:Elisabeth of Bohemia" thus:  and thus:, and leaving a clear link on the "naming conventions" talk page, thus:":Talk moved to Talk:Elisabeth of Bohemia"while noting in the edit summary"at 217.140.193.123's request"
 * 3) After some comments added, seemingly everyone agreeing that the discussion is now at the "Elisabeth of Bohemia" talk page 217.140.193.13 (=Arrigo) nonetheless decides to bring back part of the content of that discussion to "naming conventions talk page, thus, obfuscating the link to the Elisabeth of Bohemia talk page, while it is now somewhere in the middle of the section surrounded by other comments.
 * 4) Then, the sockpuppeteering of 217.140.193.13/Arrigo is found out at the Naming Conventions talk page by John Kenney
 * 5) Then Pmanderson (signing as Septentrionalis but in no way sockpuppet-like) adds a comment and erases the part of the discussion that had been moved before to the Elisabeth of Bohemia talk page
 * 6) Then, Arrigo (=217.140.193.13) makes an accusation of deleting/editing, in the edit summary of this revert :"I have not and I do not accept editing/deleting my comments from this page."
 * 7) Finally, Arrigo (=217.140.193.13) files a case against Francis Schonken - note that during these 2 steps Francis Schonken edited none of the related pages, neither performed anything that could in the remotest sense be understood as a deletion NOR ANY OTHER EDIT OF THESE PAGES, so the least that can be said is that Arrigo/217.140.193.13 did not wait between posting the warning and listing on WP:VIP:
 * 8) *With a home made "warning" message (instead of a prescribed template) at Francis Schonken's talk page:
 * 9) *And listing on WP:VIP:

Well, that cost me more than half an hour to put together, but with the ten links to the relevant edits, I think any sysop can "evaluate" in less than half an hour.

Please remember that this thread of disrupting edits ''is only one in a long list of such threads that could be put together re. Arrigo/217.140.193.13'' --Francis Schonken 12:00, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Arrigo/217.140.193.123 also has a history of disrupting efforts to reach a consensus regarding the names and article titles of Japanese emperors as well. Despite a long detailed discussion taking place at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Japan-related articles), Arrigo unilaterally "decided" what the articles should be titled and began moving them despite a fairly clear census being developed in a different direction, and in any event without waiting for a consensus. To top it off, he posted a rather snide remark on the discussion page saying, "Oops, I already "decided" that reigning empresses will be "X Tenno", as they were formally "female emperors", and "empress" is more reserved as translation to certain other titles such as chugu and kogo. Arrigo 10:56, 18 August 2005 (UTC). -Jefu 06:04, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

In addition, if you just check Arrigo's talk page you will see that it is full of complaints from people about his unilateral decision to just move things around without consulting anyway, or in some cases despite what the consensus appears to be, and you will see the rather combative way that he responds to other users who complain about him. He is by far the most disruptive user I have encountered on Wikipedia -Jefu 06:04, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Applicable policies

 * WP:POINT
 * Sock puppet. Arrigo is known for trying to wipe traces, when this abuse of "double identity" gets criticism from others:
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 * Maybe also Wiki-stalking, later in the process:
 * (see "convoluted plan" remark at the bottom, addressed at the solution I had proposed - the next examples speak for themselves:)
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Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute
(provide diffs and links)
 * HappyCamper trying to help out:
 * User_talk:HappyCamper
 * MarkSweep trying to assist:
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 * Arrigo's next action: (personal attack, removed)

Users certifying the basis for this dispute
(sign with ~ )
 * Francis Schonken 06:31, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Other users who endorse this summary
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 * -Jefu 06:06, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * - Gryffindor [[Image:Flag of Austria (state).svg|20px]] 08:33, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Response
''This is a summary written by the user whose conduct is disputed, or by other users who think that the dispute is unjustified and that the above summary is biased or incomplete. Users signing other sections ("Statement of the dispute" and "Outside Views") should not edit the "Response" section.'' ''

{Add summary here, but you must use the endorsement section below to sign. Users who edit or endorse this summary should not edit the other summaries.}

Users who endorse this summary (sign with ~ ):

Outside view
''This is a summary written by users not directly involved with the dispute but who would like to add an outside view of the dispute. Users editing other sections ("Statement of the dispute" and "Response") should not edit the "Outside Views" section, except to endorse an outside view.''

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Discussion
All signed comments and talk not related to a vote or endorsement, should be directed to this page's discussion page. Discussion should not be added below. Discussion should be posted on the talk page. Threaded replies to another user's vote, endorsement, evidence, response, or comment should be posted to the talk page.

=Section to be moved to talk page if this would get filed as an RfC=

August 26

 * User:Arrigo has been moving pages without discussion, despite warnings . Rude and condescending to almost all the users who have ever had to deal with this user . Also likes to remove naming tags before there is an end to any discussion ,.

 * 217.140.193.123. Abusive, insulting, vulgar, highly resistent to discussion of entry content . Arrigo has been accused of being 217.140.193.123 and vice-versa.

div items
Hi. As you made an item of sweden-norway in lame, I am curious to know were you present in that edit war? Or how do you know about it?

If you know the Sw wp, please tell what the situation there is. I have heard negative things of that place.

Btw, have you visited another battled place, Talk:William of Orange. Arrigo 08:16, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Do not edit Talk pages
Francis, you should not erase any comments of others from article talk pages, if the comment deals at least somehow with the issue. Such removals are regarded as disrupting Wikipedia. If you do not personally or for some other reason, like the comment, that however is no reason for erasure. Only vandalism can be removed, and the defitition of vandalism is narrow. Then, you also should understand that anonymous users are as entitled as you to contribute to Wikipedia and as entitled as you to comment on relevant issues at talk pages. Even the process called WP:refactoring is a tad controversial, and if refactoring is done, it only means edition that replaces personal attacks with nicer terms. Lastly, you should refrain from making personal attacks. Arrigo 11:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

The Winter Queen
I guess you wish to have nicknames for her too. Please take a look at Talk:Elisabeth of Bohemia. Arrigo 15:07, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

warning of suspected vandalism
This message is regarding the page Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles). Please stop removing content from Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Arrigo 06:02, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Dispute regarding step 2 of

 * I never requested move of already existing discussion. I wrote a comment suggesting people to contribute thair opinions, if intended to change naming of that single article, there. I find Francis' note in edit summary a misrepresentation and distasteful. 217.140.193.123 06:31, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
 * What I saw as a request is, as quoted above, this sentence added by 217.140.193.123 (=Arrigo):"The idea in this talkpage is to discuss changes to naming conventions, not of changes to individual articles. 217.140.193.123 20:35, 1 September 2005 (UTC)"At least no intention to interpret this wrongly, or as a sysop trying to help out in the conflict put it:"Proper refactoring that preserves information is not vandalism. Please assume good faith and don't throw around charges of vandalism. If a discussion was moved and the move was done in a transparent fashion, there's nothing wrong with that. --MarkSweep✍ 01:24, 3 September 2005 (UTC)"--Francis Schonken 10:39, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

More rant
Francis, please kindly stop fabricating. You know perfectly well that around a week ago you deleted comments of other(s) from an article talkpage, was warned against, and now yesterday you unilaterally decided to remove my comments from a NC talkpage, deciding by yourself where you want to put them. My said comments were for general discussion of that NC policy, which anyway is not decided at an article talkpage, but belongs to the NC talkpage. As we are to assume good faith, I hereby assume you did the said action out of thoughtlessness. (Another, bad faith interpretation is that you wanted them not to affect the NC policy discussion). Whatever is the background, you however are not allowed to move comments of others from talkpages, and you should have understood that already a week ago when warned then. Arrigo 12:38, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Arrigo, whatever way you turn this you didn't follow the WP:VIP guideline that says"Use the,   /  ,   , and    templates as appropriate. Only if vandalism continues, add user to list."There was no "test" message according to the required format, followed by "continued" vandalism by me. And you know that perfectly well. While on the other hand you received the test2 message several days ago,  on both of your user talk pages (the real and the sockpuppet one), and continued your disruptive behaviour, by adding to wikipedia what I'm perfectly entitled to call "further nonsense". Ask Deb (for example your attempt to "move" Elizabeth of Bohemia to Elisabeth of England). Ask John K (who unmasked your sockpuppeteering). Ask so many others. --Francis Schonken 13:53, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

You cannot be as stupid as to think that a template is necessary nor mandatory. You received your warning almost a week ago and it suffices. Arrigo 16:30, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Warning of presumed vandalism
This message is regarding the userpage User:Arrigo. Please stop changing content of userpages of others. Regardless of reasons, it is generally considered vandalism, as userpages are not for writings of others without consent. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Arrigo 05:18, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

user:Arrigo blocked 24h (18 September 2005)
Three revert rule violation on. :

 * Previous version reverted to: 09:36, 17 September 2005
 * 1st revert: 19:25, 17 September 2005
 * 2nd revert: 19:48, 17 September 2005
 * 3rd revert: 23:02, 17 September 2005
 * 4th revert: *note* after this Arrigo started reverting to the same version, with a "mergefrom" template

Reported by: Francis Schonken 00:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

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 * Hope I got it right this time --Francis Schonken 00:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The alleged fourth revert is not the same. Apparently this is the reason why Schonken has declined to provide the diff. Besides, I regard this as removing vandalism. See the talkpage of the article. Arrigo 02:57, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * They're not completely the same, so I see that this does violate 3RR. I've blocked you for 24 hours.  Also, GFDL is NOT violated, so long as a redirect is kept.   Ral  315  03:08, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Just a note in case you are unaware - Arrigo uses other identities, notably 217.140.193.123.  Deb 15:40, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Public response to the September 11, 2001 attacks

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Nufy8 22:06, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Public response to the September 11, 2001 attacks
Contains nothing except a personal observation, that the attack "seemed to many like a movie becoming reality. Apart from which, it was a national tragedy." The subject is already covered in a section of the main page for the September 11 attacks. klenk 12:00, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete - This particular article about the September 11, 2001 attacks doesn't qualify for Wikipedia, unless if any contributing author can provide so much more information upon this topic. UniReb 12:43, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - Says almost nothing, and what it does say it says badly. And weirdly. Get rid. Peeper 13:27, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Chunitaku 14:04, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Contains nothing of importance besides some originally researched sentence. Amren (talk) 14:49, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Original research, some good writing but no useful encyclopedic content. Andrewa 07:26, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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User talk:Richard M. Royal

Richard Royal (known informally as Rick Royal) was a member of the notorious Lancaster University Conservative Future branch which also included his close friend and political ally Paul Bristow.

He later went on to work for right-wing Romford MP Andrew Rosindell (famed for campaigning with a Union Flag toting Bulldog).

Royal spearheaded Greg Hands' successful Conservative 2005 General Election campaign in Hammersmith & Fulham, gaining one of the largest swings in the country. He is a Prospective Council Candidate in Hammersmith & Fulham and expected to fight the hotly-contested Fulham Broadway Ward in 2006.

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Blake Feese

Blake Feese (born February 8, 1982) is a second-generation American auto racing driver. He competed in USAC before joining Hendrick Motorsports in 2004 and 2005 as a development driver, racing in ARCA and the NASCAR Busch Series for the team. After being released from that deal, he drove in those two series as well as the NASCAR Truck Series part-time with a number of other teams through 2011.

Early career
Feese began racing at the age of ten in quarter midgets, where he won his first two starts, moving up to Mini-sprints two years later. He won the 600cc track championship at Jacksonville Raceway in the mini-sprint division in 1998, before moving up to main Sprint Cars, where he won once, and was named Rookie of the Year.

In 2000, he drove in the International Racing Association, winning three races. In 2001, he competed in his first World of Outlaws race at Bristol Motor Speedway, finishing ninth. Later, he won a WoO sanctioned event at Knoxville Raceway, then won again at the All-Star sprint at Eldora Speedway the following season.

NASCAR
Late in the season, he met NASCAR winner Jimmy Spencer, who would help Feese get a NASCAR driving contract.

After going through 2003 without a major ride, Feese met Rick Hendrick and signed to drive two races for him that season in the ARCA series. In his second start at Nashville Superspeedway, Feese qualified 3rd and won the race. After posting two more top-tens that season, he won his second career ARCA race at Talladega Superspeedway. He made his Busch Series debut at Kentucky Speedway in the No. 87 ditech Chevrolet Monte Carlo for NEMCO Motorsports, starting sixteenth but finishing 41st after an early crash. After running two more races for NEMCO, he finished the year running the No. 00 Chevy for Haas CNC Racing, posting his best finish of the year, a 25th at the Aaron's 312.

In 2005 during the first ARCA Series race of the season at Daytona, Feese was involved in a scary accident on pit road where came into his pit stall too fast and overshot his pit stall and went through the hole in the pit wall hitting four photographers before coming to a stop. Fortunately, no one was seriously hurt but Feese had to retire with radiator damage. Feese moved up to the Busch Series that same season to share the No. 5 Lowe's Chevy with fellow Hendrick development drivers Boston Reid and Kyle Krisiloff. Feese struggled during the season however, his best finish being a 23rd at Atlanta out of six starts. He also made his Craftsman Truck Series debut at Kentucky for Billy Ballew Motorsports, starting 30th and finishing 15th.

At the end of 2005, Feese was released from his contract at Hendrick, and went back to racing sprint cars in Indiana during his time without a ride, of which he would not find one until 2007, where he ran a limited ARCA and Busch Series schedule with Sadler Brothers Racing. He also attempted to qualify for the ARCA season-opener at Daytona for Baker Curb Racing using Norm Benning Racing's owner points, but failed to qualify. Feese did not run any NASCAR or ARCA races until August 2009, where he competed in the Truck Series race at Nashville in the No. 15 Toyota Tundra for Billy Ballew Motorsports, starting 18th and finishing 12th.

In 2011, Feese would join Turner Motorsports, competing in most of the second half of the Truck Series season in their No. 32 truck, replacing Brad Sweet, who only ran the first eight races of the season in the truck.

Feese was replaced by Miguel Paludo, who moved over from the No. 7 Red Horse Racing truck, in the Turner No. 32 for 2012, which left him without a ride. He ended up not finding a ride for that year or any year after that.

NASCAR
(key) ( Bold – Pole position awarded by qualifying time. Italics – Pole position earned by points standings or practice time. * – Most laps led. )

ARCA Re/Max Series
(key) ( Bold – Pole position awarded by qualifying time. Italics – Pole position earned by points standings or practice time. * – Most laps led. )

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Talk:Aquinas College, Stockport

Wikipedians who go/went to Aquinas
Do any wikipedians go there? I do... -- Deskana 12:03, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

I do.

I do DJ GARRRAY!!!!!!! ps its depressing what you know about spellings :(

I did three years there. Myke251 11:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I do. takkaria 12:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I do...Only 1 more year left thank god (sic) :D Oatey 23:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Well I go to the University of Manchester now. I posted that quite a while ago. --Deskana (request backup)  13:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm at Nottingham Trent University now, but I'm looking to run off screaming to the nearest redbrick for postgrad any second now...Myke251 17:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

Vandalism
"Nigel Tu of Indian Festival in a Disco Setting fame" should probably be removed lol

Why he is famous, and Indian Festival in a Disco Setting is a mint play! well funny. i think it should be put back on.

Weasel Words
Where are they? Myke251 03:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC).
 * 'Greatest' about Thomas Aquinas is at least one. Jbeckwith 10:08, 27 January 2007 (GMT).
 * I've tidied it up, removed "greatest", added criticism of college too. Removed the weasel tag too. --Oscarthecat 11:07, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Reads like an Ad
The only bit that sounds a bit like an advert is the direct quote from the inspector's report. Can we remove the Ad tag? Billlion (talk) 02:58, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

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College History
The source of Aquinas receiving twice as many applications as places is from 2004. Is it time to alter it? I think the que down Nangreave Road when Ambrose Smith was the principal is an important part of the college and should definitely be referenced. Ribbesford (talk) 18:39, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If there are sources, sure. Primefac (talk) 19:33, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Gavin Maxwell

Which otter?
The film of Ring of Bright Water has Maxwell buying a European Otter in London; his nephew's biography refers to him being given a Marsh Otter in Iraq. Which happens in the book? Andy Mabbett 12:04, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Article is correct: his first otter came from Iraq. He adopted one while he was out there, but it died while he was still there. He was then given one shortly before he left Iraq, and it is this one (named Midj?) which he brought back to London and then Scotland.

 * The otter that died in Iraq was Chahala, the otter that returned to London was Mij (short for Mijbil). The pet-shop otter depicted in the movie (and portrayed by a trained otter, also called Mij) has no direct counterpart in any of the books, although it is clearly inspired by the original Mij. Poglad 19:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Relationships
His marriages and homosexuality should probably be mentioned. Botting goes into the marriages, but is by virtue of being an "authorised" biographer quiet on the homosexual relationships. Not sure if there's a source on those.

Could you cite any sources on this? Anyone?

 * Obvious source would be Frere, Richard (1976) Maxwell's Ghost; London: Victor Gollancz Ltd.

 * [Maxwell:] "I am a homosexual. Does that worry you?"
 * [Frere:] "This I think I knew -- it is, after all, common gossip."

 * —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poglad (talk • contribs)

I've now added this citation. Poglad 17:06, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

There are a lot of stories in Scotland about his supposed homosexuality. I think it is unfair to name names, as these are all gossip, and not necessarily true. Myself, I think he was probably bisexual. --MacRusgail (talk) 17:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Sicily
Maxwell spent a considerable time in Sicily and wrote a couple of books about the island. Should be mentioned.
 * I thought that too. Apparently he lived at a tonnara (tuna fishery) close to Scopello some time in the '50s, and based Ten Pains of Death on his experience there. Don't know any more than that, but the external link to the biography by his nephew sheds light. I've tried to track the book down without success. Dw290 10:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

 * This suggestion is correct. In Ten Pains of Death Maxwell describes his life at the Tonnara di Scopello on the Sicilian coast. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:22, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Dates
The article gives various dates as years, despite the actual date being readily available. Lack of details, and lack of citations, can all be addressed to improve the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poglad (talk • contribs)

Simpler Lifestyle
I had to smile at the article's mention of Maxwell pursuing "a simpler lifestyle"... it's hard to imagine a more complex lifestyle than the one he had, notwithstanding the way he presented himself in Ring of Bright Water. More a case of chaotic genius and drama, some would say LOL. Poglad (talk) 08:57, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Multiple reissues
What is the point of listing multiple 'reissues' of his books, with lovingly recorded ISBNs that change each week? New critical editions, illustrated editions, translations ... might be of some interest (as would different versions edited by the author, if there were any), but successive paperback reprints do seem somewhat irrelevant: Wikipedia is not a catalogue. Maybe we could slim the bibliog. down a bit. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

New source
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/gavin-maxwells-bitter-legacy-was-the-otter-man-the-wildlife-champion-he-appeared-to-be-9595629.html

-- Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:00, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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Upholland railway station

Upholland railway station serves the small town of Up Holland in the southern Lancashire/Wigan boundary area of England. It is on the Kirkby branch line from Wigan Wallgate and means the service (which is provided by Northern Trains, who also manage the station) runs through three counties on its journey from Wigan to Kirkby.

Upholland has been named in past Lancashire County Council reports as a possible site of a rail link to Skelmersdale, but as yet no firm plans have been made.

History
The original Upholland station was on a different site, opened by the Liverpool and Bury Railway on 20 November 1848, but closed four years later in 1852. The current station was originally called "Pimbo Lane Station", and also opened on 20 November 1848. It was renamed "Up Holland" on 13 October 1900, and "Upholland" in 1902.

Facilities
The station is unstaffed and has no permanent buildings left, other than basic shelters on each platform. Timetable posters provide train running information. Step-free access is available to the eastbound platform (via a steep ramp), but not for the westbound one (this can only be reached by a staircase from Pimbo Lane). The station also has a small car park located next to the bridge on Pimbo Lane.

Services
All services at Upholland are operated by Northern Trains.

The station is served by one train per hour between Headbolt Lane and Blackburn via Wigan Wallgate and Manchester Victoria. Connections for Merseyrail services to and from Liverpool Central can be made by changing at Headbolt Lane.

No services call at the station during late evenings or on Sundays.

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Ronetta Smith

Ronetta Smith (born 2 May 1980) is a Jamaican sprinter.

Career
A 400m runner with a personal best of 51.23 (set in May 2005), Smith has never reached an international final in an individual race. However, she was a part of the Jamaican 4 x 400 meters relay teams that won the bronze medal at the 2003 World Championships and the silver medal at the 2005 World Championships. She ran for the relay team at the 2004 Summer Olympics, but only in the qualifying heat. Before the final heat she was replaced by Novlene Williams, with whom Jamaica eventually won the bronze medal.

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Shine On Brightly

Shine On Brightly is the second studio album by English rock band Procol Harum, released in 1968 by record labels Regal Zonophone and A&M.

It is considered an early example of progressive rock.

The album's single, "Quite Rightly So", failed to repeat the success of Procol Harum's first two singles ("A Whiter Shade of Pale" and "Homburg"), but the album itself was a commercial success in the United States, outperforming their first album, though it failed to chart in their home country. In Canada, the album reached #26.

Background and recording
Shine on Brightly is credited as produced solely by Denny Cordell, but in fact he and Procol Harum had a parting of ways roughly halfway through recording it. Among the grievances between them was Cordell's trying to get drummer B. J. Wilson to leave Procol Harum and join Joe Cocker's backing band. Most of the production work was instead done by Tony Visconti, though lyricist Keith Reid credits the album's engineer, Glyn Johns, with an instrumental role in assembling the track "In Held 'Twas in I". This track was written and recorded in a very piecemeal fashion; for example, the spoken word introduction was recorded before any music had been written for the piece. Reid heard the story told in this introduction from an American writer he met in Baghdad House, a cafe on Fulham Road. According to Reid, the "Grand Finale" section of the song was written solely by organist Matthew Fisher.

Cover art
While the cover art for the UK release on Regal Zonophone was commissioned by Procol Harum themselves, the cover art for the US release on A&M, depicting a deformed nude figure playing an upright piano in a joshua tree desert through a yellow-green filter, was created without any impetus from the band.

The interior of the record sleeve is a photograph of the band lit only by sparklers they are holding.

Content
The opening song "Quite Rightly So" is about lost love; the lyric was written by Keith Reid after a broken love affair in the United States.

"Rambling On" tells the story of a young man trying to emulate Batman by jumping off a roof, and was described by Reid as a "flight of fancy, just me rambling on".

The title of the nearly side-long suite "In Held 'Twas in I" is an acrostic. It is formed by taking the first word of the lyrics in each of the first four movements as well as the first word of the sixth verse in the first movement:

 * "In the darkness of the night..." || From movement 1, "Glimpses of Nirvana"
 * "Held close by that which some despise..." || From the sixth verse of movement 1
 * "′Twas tea-time at the circus..." || From movement 2, "′Twas Teatime at the Circus"
 * "In the autumn of my madness..." || From movement 3, "In the Autumn of My Madness"
 * "I know if I'd been wiser..." || From movement 4, "Look to Your Soul"
 * }
 * "In the autumn of my madness..." || From movement 3, "In the Autumn of My Madness"
 * "I know if I'd been wiser..." || From movement 4, "Look to Your Soul"
 * }
 * "I know if I'd been wiser..." || From movement 4, "Look to Your Soul"
 * }

According to Keith Reid, the title has no meaning beyond this acrostic.

Release
Shine On Brightly was released in September 1968 by record labels Regal Zonophone and A&M. The original British and North American versions of the opening two tracks ("Quite Rightly So" and "Shine On Brightly") are different versions.

The album was reissued several times, including a 2009 remaster using the original 2-track stereo masters and featuring bonus B-sides and alternate takes. However, many of the tracks are played at a higher speed. Subsequent reissues have been at the correct speed.

Reception
Upon its release, Jim Miller, writing for Rolling Stone, was unfavourable: "Procol Harum's first release was generally more satisfying, especially since this new album displays little in the way of startling growth – the group has apparently chosen to refine their old approach and the musical result, while usually listenable, is not consistently interesting." Conversely, Billboard opined that the group had "a self contained package, excellently produced" and predicted it could bring them back to chart heights.

In a retrospective review, Bruce Eder wrote in Allmusic that Shine on Brightly "proved that they were more than a one-hit wonder and, released in late 1968, the album extended the definition of progressive rock, even as it kept much of the music rooted in established rock genres." While praising all of the songs, he said that "In Held 'Twas in I" in particular "rivaled anything yet heard from such established progressive rock outfits as the Nice or the Moody Blues in length and surpassed them in audacity".

Track listing
Some issues of the album, including the original A&M release, do not list the individual movements for "In Held 'Twas in I".

Personnel

 * Procol Harum
 * Gary Brooker – lead vocals (1-7b, 7d), piano (all but 7e)
 * Robin Trower – guitar, co-lead vocals (4)
 * Matthew Fisher – organ, lead vocals (7c), piano (7e)
 * Dave Knights – bass guitar
 * B. J. Wilson – drums
 * Keith Reid – lyrics

In addition to the instruments credited to Procol Harum, the album incorporates harpsichord, percussion, and balalaika, all of which were played by uncredited guest musicians. Keith Reid recalled that the percussion on "Wish Me Well" was played by members of Traffic, but did not say which ones.
 * Additional musicians

 * Technical
 * Tony Visconti - assistant producer
 * Tom Wilkes - art direction
 * George Underwood – front cover art design

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Talk:Ring of Bright Water (film)

I removed ISBN
I've not seen any ISBN on any other Wikipedia pages. Why was it here? It could change with new editions, plus people know how to find books, even OOP books; it's not hard. The ISBN is a commercial intrusion into the encyclopedia. Softlavender (talk) 02:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Which otter?
Please see Talk:Gavin Maxwell for discussion on the diffences between film and book. Andy Mabbett 12:07, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Eustarine
What does "eustarine" mean? It's not in my Pocket Oxford Dictionary or Wiktionary. Is it just a typo for "estuarine" - i.e., to do with an estuary? That's my guess but I'm not confident enought to correct it. EdDavies 19:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

"Eustarine" seems to be a somewhat prevalent typo -- Google reveals 196 instances, with this present article very near the top. However, "estuarine" has nearly 4,500,000 instances, of which several hundred are associated with "Ring of Bright Water" or "Gavin Maxwell." So I decided to go for it. --JC 64.38.163.34 09:24, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Gavin Maxwell uses "eustarine" many times in "Ring of Bright Water" as an adjective describing the behaviour of otters. It's not a typo. P0mbal (talk) 16:33, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

dies?
i always interped mij lives whaen the actor says "mij is that you?" and he perks up so the balenceing of the plot ending is disputeable and should be labeld biased and marked for clean up 12.77.81.183 (talk) 13:21, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Ring of Bright Water - Book and Film
I came to this page via a wikilink expecting to find as subject the book "Ring of Bright Water". The book was written first (1960) and the film was an adaptation of the book. Many, including myself, who have read the book will have points of view concerning this adaptation, but this is not the place to express them. Resisting the temptation to compare, I throw to discussion the suggestion that there be two articles: one about the book and another about the film. P0mbal (talk) 16:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC) To simplify the above: seems there is a need for an article about the book. P0mbal (talk) 10:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

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Mike Carroll (skateboarder)

Michael Shawn Carroll (born August 24, 1975) is a professional skateboarder from Daly City, California, United States. He is the co-founder and vice-president of Girl Skateboards and the co-founder of Lakai Limited Footwear. He was also instrumental in the creation of the Chocolate Skateboards subdivision of Girl. Furthermore, Carroll is known for being in the vanguard of innovative, technical, and stylish street skateboarding in the early 1990s and beyond. The success of skateboarding videos like Hokus Pokus, Ban This!, and Video Days firmly ensconced street as the premier variation of skating (a position formerly held by vert skateboarding).

Career
Carroll's first sponsors were H-Street skateboards, Concrete Jungle, and FTC skate shop in San Francisco. When Concrete Jungle closed in 1988, Carroll became a founding member of the FTC skate shop team along with brother Gregg Carroll, Jovontae Turner, and Rick Ibaseta. H-Street was a skateboard company founded by Tony Magnusson and Mike Ternasky. Carroll was featured in video parts on H-Street's Shackle Me Not (1988), Hokus Pokus (1989), and This Is Not The New H-Street Video (1990) In 1991, Carroll joined the prestigious Plan B team that Ternasky left H-Street to form. After the foreclosure of H-Street and the death of Plan B owner Mike Ternasky, Carroll started Girl Skateboards in 1993 with fellow Plan B rider Rick Howard. Carroll explained in 2013 that, at the time, Plan B was continually "retiring" team members and he experienced a decrease in stress in regard to his future following the decision to launch Girl.

Following his recruitment to the Vans skate shoe team in 1994, Carroll was often seen in his early team ads skating in Half Cabs. In 1996, Carroll released a signature model, a technically more advanced shoe based on the Half Cab with a modern internal looped lacing system,  but left the company in 1997 and moved to DC Shoes. In 1998, DC Shoes released a Mike Carroll signature model shoe called the "Cosmo". Not long afterwards, Carroll left DC Shoes in 1999 along with Girl Skateboards team member and founder Rick Howard and they started the shoe company, Lakai.

Carroll is globally known for his skating at the Embarcadero plaza (also known as Justin Herman Plaza), in San Francisco, U.S. As of 2012, the area continues to be a popular location for skateboarders. Carroll has also been attributed to the discovery of another famous San Francisco skateboard landmark 3rd and Army.

Sponsors
As of July 2014, Carroll is sponsored by FTC, Fourstar Clothing, Girl, Lakai Limited Footwear, Diamond Supply Co., Royal Truck Company, Glassy Sunhaters, Grizzly Griptape, and Bones Bearings.

Awards and Honors
Carroll won Thrasher magazine's Skater of the Year award in 1994.

In December 2011, Carroll was selected as one of "The 30 Most Influential Skaters Of All Time" by Transworld Skateboarding. Carroll was number 16 in the list, following Jamie Thomas and preceding Guy Mariano. In the corresponding interview with Skin Phillips, uploaded in September 2012, Carroll listed Jason Lee and Julian Stranger as the two skateboarders who have been the most influential in his life.

In 2023, Carroll was inducted into the Skateboarding Hall of Fame.

Videography

 * H-Street: Shackle Me Not (1988)
 * H-Street: Hokus Pokus (1989)
 * Plan B: Questionable (1992)
 * Plan B: Virtual Reality (1993)
 * Girl: Gold Fish (1993)
 * Girl: Mouse (1996)
 * Chocolate Skateboards: “The Chocolate Tour” (1999)
 * Transworld: Modus Operandi (2000)
 * Girl: Yeah Right (2003)
 * Lakai: Fully Flared (2007)
 * Girl: Pretty Sweet (2012)

Video game appearances
Carroll is a playable character in the Electronic Arts video games; Skate, Skate It, Skate 2, and Skate 3.

title: Mike Carroll (skateboarder)