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Overall Position

The Overall Position (OP) was a tertiary entrance rank used in Queensland, Australia to guide selection into universities. Like similar systems used throughout the rest of Australia, the OP shows how well a student has performed in their senior secondary studies compared with all other OP-eligible students in Queensland. The system was introduced in 1992 and ended with the 2019 cohort.

The OP is calculated and used similarly to the Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (ATAR) in other states. Instead of being a percentile rank (0.00 - 99.95), however, OPs are measured on a scale from 1 to 25, where 1 is the highest and 25 is the lowest. This range of possible results is bell curved so the percentage of students receiving the very highest and very lowest results is much less common than those receiving mid-range OPs. In 2018, 733 students received an OP1, according to Minister for Education Grace Grace. 49.7% of Queensland high school students were eligible to obtain an OP in 2018.

A table is produced in conjunction with other tertiary authorities to allow conversion between Overall Position, ATAR, Universities Admission Index, SAT, and the A-Level scales.

From 2020, the OP rank was replaced with the ATAR, bringing Queensland in-line with all other Australian states and territories.

Calculating an Overall Position
OPs are calculated by the Queensland Curriculum and Assessment Authority (QCAA) for all students who satisfactorily complete the Queensland Certificate of Education (QCE) (or equivalent) and who meet certain other criteria for receiving an OP, such as participating in the Queensland Core Skills (QCS) Test and completing at least 20 semesters of Authority subjects through Year 11 and Year 12. A landmark feature of this system is that all assessment is set and marked internally within schools, subject to QCAA approval. As such, calculations are necessary to ensure that students are being equally assessed in ability in the school across subjects, and from school to school. Two levels of scaling are applied to ensure that each subject the student sits contributes equally to their OP.

Assignment of SAIs
When a student exits (completes or drops out of) a subject, they will have amassed a portfolio of assessment they completed in that subject. Summative assessment pieces completed in Year 12 are then used to assign each student a Level of Achievement (LOA) for each subject they complete, as determined by the grades they received on those assessment pieces. There are 5 LOAs which range from Very High Achievement (VHA) to Very Low Achievement (VLA), and are often further fine-grained with a rating from 1 to 10 inside each LOA, called a rung. Students are then ranked by their teachers in comparison to all other OP-eligible students in that subject using their LOAs and rungs and will assign Subject Achievement Indicators (SAIs) in moderate (10-13 students) and large (over 13 students) subject groups. SAIs range from 400 to 200, with the best student always assigned 400 and the bottom student always assigned 200, and all other students assigned an SAI in between. The gaps between SAIs reflect the gaps between student achievements.

Within-school scaling
The SAIs for each subject group are forwarded to the QCAA to check and then scale. The first stage of scaling is within-school scaling, where the QCAA multiplies all SAIs by an adjusted QCS mean. The Queensland Core Skills (QCS) Test is the sole standardised test administered to all Queensland secondary school students under the same conditions, and as such is the sole measure by which students across the state can be compared. Within-school scaling is required because while all subjects assign SAIs of 400, a student with an SAI of 400 in Mathematics C may not be achieving the same standard as a student with an SAI of 400 in Drama at the same school, and a student with an SAI of 400 in Mathematics A at one school may not be achieving at the same standard as a student with an SAI of 400 in Mathematics A at a different school. Within-school scaling attempts to equate all subjects within a school so that SAIs are comparable within schools. As each subject group has its own SAI distribution, each subject group is scaled according to the adjusted average of its students QCS results. The new SAIs for each subject are called scaled SAIs and range from 75 to 275. Scaled SAIs are comparable between subjects within a school and a student's best 5 scaled SAIs are then averaged to form that student's Overall Achievement Indicator (OAI).

Inter-school scaling
While OAIs are comparable within a school, an OAI of 200 at one school is not comparable to an OAI of 200 at a different school. Because of this, a second stage of scaling is required. Inter-school scaling multiplies a school's OAIs by that school's adjusted QCS mean. This produces a scaled OAI for each student that is comparable throughout Queensland.

Assignment of OPs
As scaled OAIs are comparable between all schools in the state, students can be ranked in a statewide rank order using them. From this, students are grouped into OP bands and assigned an OP from 1 to 25.

Percentiles
The OP distribution is based on a bell curve and as such it can be difficult to determine the percentages of students who receive certain OPs. From year to year, the percentages of students who receive certain OPs is around the same. This table lists OP percentages from 2018.

Field Positions
Field Positions (FPs) are given supplementary to a student's OP. While OPs measure a student's overall achievement, FPs measure achievement with relation to certain "Fields", or areas of the curriculum. FPs are measured on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the best and 10 being the worst. The calculation of FPs is very similar to the calculation of OPs.

Different subjects contribute different amounts to different Fields. For example, Mathematics C contributes 20 "weighted semesters" to Field D, but only 4 weighted semesters to Field A, while English contributes 20 weighted semesters to Field A, but none to Field D. A student is eligible for an FP in a certain Field if they complete 60 weighted semesters, and will only receive FPs for Fields they are eligible in. When determining tertiary admission, only certain FPs are considered depending on what the subject matter in a degree is. For example, a Maths degree may only consider Fields C and D, while an Arts degree may consider Fields A, B and E.

New QCE System
Students entering Year 11 in 2019 will be assessed under the new QCE system, which involves assigning Australian Tertiary Admission Ranks (ATARs) rather than OPs. This will bring Queensland's tertiary ranking system in line with other Australian states and territories. The new system will involve an external subject-specific exam that will form part of individual student's assessment.

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 * Re-written from articles in "The Royal Horticultural Society encyclopedia of Gardening", revised edition 2002. Alf 03:54, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

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This article was merged with and redirected to Asexual reproduction in plants as a result of a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 00:21, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

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Willmot, New South Wales

Willmot is a suburb of Sydney, in the state of New South Wales, Australia 49 kilometres west of the Sydney central business district, in the local government area of the City of Blacktown and is part of the Greater Western Sydney region.

History
Willmot takes its name from Thomas Willmot (1851–1938) who was elected the first President of the Blacktown Shire Council. He was the Shire President in 1906-1910 and again in 1912–1913. The housing development built here in 1971 was to be called St Johns but since a suburb in Sydney was already called St Johns Park, Willmot was chosen.

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Willmot may refer to:

Places

 * Willmot, New South Wales, a suburb of Sydney

People

 * Eric Willmot (1936–2019), Australian scholar, educator, writer, and engineer
 * Ernest Willmot Sloper (born Ernest Willmott; 1871–1916), British-born South African architect
 * Donald G. Willmot (1916–1994), Canadian businessman and philanthropist
 * George Willmot (1908–1977), British archaeologist and museum curator

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User:PurplePlatypus

A little about me
PurplePlatypus is Jeff, a grad student, silly person and all-around geek originally from the Canadian prairies and currently living in Houston, Texas. He has just started in the Ph.D. program at Rice University. His field is philosophy, particularly ethics and logic, and his outside interests include It is now pretty much definite that he does not have Asperger Syndrome, but he certainly has a lot in common with people who do. It turns out he does, however, more likely than not have a mild form of ADHD. At the moment, he is writing about himself in the third person for no particular reason.
 * Dungeons & Dragons (incidentally, that article has improved a lot, little thanks to me) and role-playing games in general
 * Music and especially progressive rock
 * Magic: The Gathering
 * And the Muppets

Brief Summary of Wikipedia Contributions
I played a very substantial role in helping Asperger Syndrome retain its Featured Article status, which was being challenged when I first became active on Wikipedia, by performing a major reorganization of that article. I probably only wrote about 20% of it (and falling) myself, but my rearrangement affected far more than 20% of it. Of course, that article has gone right down the shitter since then, but that's mostly since (and perhaps, partly because) I gave up on being a regular contributer to it.

I also played a small but significant role in getting Pink Floyd to Featured Article status.

I have twice drastically rewritten the Characteristics section of Progressive Rock, introducing what I regarded as vast improvements. The first time the then-current editors of the article pretty much unanimously agreed and the changes stuck for about a year, though they have since been systematically dismantled by idiots. The second time, most of said idiots were already there and revert-warred my version out of existence. There is a lesson about Wikipedia in there if you care to look for it. This goes a good ways toward explaining why I edit much less now, though I never did do all that much of it.

I spend most of my Wikipedia time in topics related to role-playing games, bands I like and whatever other entertainment-related topics catch my fancy at any given moment. I also poke my head into more "serious" topics from time to time, usually to do with psychology or philosophy; for instance, I have made a few tweaks to John Stuart Mill. I also keep an eye on Requests for Arbitration, seldom liking what I see there.

I am apparently not that interesting a target for the assorted woes of editing here. This page has only been vandalized once, for which the perpetrator later apologized; I've only been accused of having or being a sockpuppet twice, both demonstrably spurious (and by people of questionable mental stability, one of whom is now banned from the project); and I've only gotten into an argument with SlimVirgin once.

IPs I have known
Before creating this account, I did a total of 202 edits and comments under the IP address 24.77.97.3, most notably to Progressive Rock, the page that is now Asperger Syndrome, and Winnipeg Fringe Theatre Festival.

More recently, for a day or two I found that about half my contributions were signed by my IP address instead of my username, even though I was logged in. By this point my IP address was showing as 24.79.85.41.

Pseudo-Rant
I went on a fairly substantial Wikibreak in April and again in July, and for the foreseeable future, Wikipedia is not going to be the daily part of my life it was for a few months there. It was taking up more time than it was worth, and there are just too many stubborn jackasses, who for reasons ranging from short-sightedness and inexperience to active desire to push political agendas, appear utterly indifferent to the basic goal of making Wikipedia as useful and accurate as possible. Some are almost universally recognized for the cranks and trolls they are. Others hold positions of considerable responsibility and are, inexplicably, widely regarded as pillars of this particular community.

It may be worth pointing out that "consensus" - the rock upon which Wikipedia is built - is, at least in significant part, coextensive with popularity, and when you start openly proclaiming that popularity is more important than truth, nothing but trouble can follow - at least from the point of view of a non-ignoramus with a great deal more respect for truth than popularity, such as myself. This is a big, big problem and I have no idea what to do about it, or whether I have any role to play in a community where such a (from my point of view [where's a rolleyes smiley when you need one?]) twisted view of reality holds sway.

Never mind that consensus is routinely ignored, generally due to the whims of one of a relatively small number of powerful individuals (I include here at least half of the Arbcom and a handful of other unusually influential admins). This wouldn't be such a bad thing if the occasions when it was done reliably tracked the quality of the contributions (and contributors) on the receiving end, but that is anything but the case. Most of these people have more ego than useful knowledge, several of them routinely make extremely biased contributions to important articles, and all seem to see themselves as a sort of Wikipedia aristocracy who don't have to listen to regular users or even other admins unless they feel like it. Most of all, they appear to think the rules only apply to those who disagree with them (at least two of them commonly block people for personal attacks while making far worse ones themselves, sometimes in the very messages where they inform them of these blocks, for example). This is not good for Wikipedia and I'm surprised it has been allowed to continue for so long, though I do see signs that it's starting to fray at the edges. If you're going to judge contributions by fucked up criteria, at least do it consistently, or at the very least, don't have the alternative criteria be even more fucked up. "Consensus" is a lousy criterion for encyclopedia-building, but "whether you agree with (say) SlimVirgin" is an even worse one. PurplePlatypus

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Hi PurplePlatypus. Pink Floyd has been nominated for GA status. As you are a significant contributor you may wish to take part. Regards  SilkTork  *YES! 13:55, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

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Mike Marshall (musician)

Mike Marshall (born Michael James Marshall, July 17, 1957 in New Castle, Pennsylvania) is a mandolinist who has collaborated with David Grisman and Darol Anger.

He grew up in Lakeland, Florida. When he was 18, he won Florida state contests on fiddle and mandolin. He considers his discovery of David Grisman's music a significant event in his life, admiring how Grisman combined jazz and Latin styles into his own form of bluegrass. After Marshall moved to California, he collaborated with Grisman on film music and soon after was invited by Grisman to join the quintet. He was a member of the David Grisman Quintet from 1985 to 1990, touring with Jerry Douglas, Béla Fleck, Tony Rice, Mark O'Connor, Stéphane Grappelli, and Darol Anger.

Marshall and Darol Anger collaborated often during their careers. They founded Montreux, with Barbara Higbie and Michael Manring, and the supergroup Psychograss, with Tony Trischka and Todd Phillips. Like Grisman, both groups played an eclectic style of music that combined classical, folk, jazz, and bluegrass. Marshall has performed Brazilian music with the band Choro Famoso and on his second solo album, Brazil: Duets. He released his debut solo album, Gator Strut, in 1989.

Marshall is a virtuoso on the mandolin. He plays a 1924 Gibson F-5 mandolin that was signed by Lloyd Loar. He helped start the Modern Mandolin Quartet. He collaborated with mandolinist Chris Thile on Into the Cauldron (2003). His wife, Caterina Lichtenberg, is a German classical mandolinist. Both he and Caterina teach online mandolin lessons through ArtistWorks.

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Eddie Byrne

Eddie Byrne (31 January 1911 – 21 August 1981) was an Irish actor.

Career
His stage work included many appearances with Dublin's Abbey Theatre, and also work with the National Theatre in London.

Outside of Ireland, he is probably best known for his minor role as General Willard in Star Wars (1977) (named after George Lucas's friend and collaborator Willard Huyck), but he is also remembered in horror roles such as the sceptical Inspector Mulrooney in The Mummy (1959) and as the kindly Dr. Reginald Landers in Island of Terror (1966) and the rural inn owner from The Break (1963). He also appeared as Inspector O'Neill in the film Jack the Ripper (1959). He appeared in the TV series 'The Adventures of Robin Hood' (1957), Season 3, Episode 5 as the lord of the manor.

Personal life
Eddie Byrne was born in Dublin. He was married to Kitty Thuillier and had four children: Frank Byrne, Susan Byrne, Michael Byrne & Catherine Byrne. He died of a stroke in Dublin in 1981.

Film
He also appeared in several episodes of The Saint with Roger Moore.

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Woodcroft, New South Wales

Woodcroft is a suburb of Sydney, in the state of New South Wales, Australia. Woodcroft is located 37 kilometres west of the Sydney central business district, in the local government area of the City of Blacktown and is part of the Greater Western Sydney region. Woodcroft Lake is on Bricketwood Drive and the Neighbourhood Centre is beside it. It is popular among the community. The suburb contains many play areas.

History
From 1969 to 1988 Woodcroft was the State Brickworks in Doonside (and prior to 1969 it was the location of the State Timberworks). In 1989, the land was purchased by estate agents and developers LJ Hooker. After rezoning, residential construction commenced in 1992 and Woodcroft was formally recognised as a suburb in 1996.

Commercial area
There is a modest independent retail mall on Richmond Road. Services include a service station, supermarket, doctor's surgery, and a variety of independent and franchise fast food outlets.

Facilities such as disabled toilets, parenting rooms, and children's play areas, are limited.

Transport
The Blacktown Social Plan shows that Woodcroft households are much more likely to have one car than is usual across both the city of Blacktown, and the Sydney greater metropolitan area. However they are also much less likely to have two or more cars than is usual. This is somewhat of an indication of the transport connections throughout the area and the demographic of the population.

Access to public transport is somewhat limited, being via bus to either Blacktown, Doonside or Quakers Hill railway stations. Most households have one car.

The M7 motorway is accessible to Woodcroft via either Richmond Road or Quakers Hill Parkway. Since it opened in December 2005, this has improved access to the Hills District, Liverpool, and provided connections to both the M2 and M4 motorways.

Housing
The predominant form of housing throughout the suburb is free standing single homes; no residences are apartments and 19.0% are townhouses, semi-detached or similar. This modern, low density housing is a reflection of the standard of living throughout the suburb. A number of streets in Woodcroft are named after well-known Australian lakes; for example, Burrinjuck Drive is named after Burrinjuck Dam and Burragorang Street is named after Lake Burragorang.

Woodcroft Lake
Woodcroft features a small man-made lake called Woodcroft Lake, on the area of a former Brick Pit. Each year, in September, the lake and surrounding park is home to the Woodcroft Festival.

Woodcroft Neighbourhood Centre
In 2019, a new Neighbourhood Centre designed by Carter Williamson Architects was opened. It replaced the previous neighbourhood centre which was destroyed by a fire in 2015.

Woodcroft Reserve
Located along Woodcroft Drive, Woodcroft Reserve features two multi-purpose courts and outdoor fitness equipment. The reserve also has a playspace with features such as a flying fox, trampoline and toddler-friendly swings.

Population
The Blacktown Social Plan indicates that between 1996 and 2001 census, the population increased from 1683 to 4969 people, an increase of over 195%. This is linked directly to the level of residential development occurring throughout the 1990s. It has since stabilised somewhat, growing to 5,355 in 2006 and 6,440 at the. 23.1% of the population was born in the Philippines in 2011, the highest proportion born in the Philippines in Sydney. This had fallen slightly to 21.1% in 2016.

The Blacktown Social Plan shows that compared to the averages across both the City of Blacktown, and the Sydney greater metropolitan area, residents of Woodcroft are more likely to be English literate migrants, working in white collar jobs. They are also very likely to be buying their own house and to be living as a couple with children.

Since there are relatively sparse retail services here, the majority of residents are more likely to work and shop in nearby city centres such as Blacktown, Parramatta or Penrith. Due to an influx of professionals in the last couple of years together with excellent train connectivity via surrounding train stations, many people travel to Sydney for work.

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Woodcroft

Woodcroft may refer to:
 * Woodcroft, Edmonton, Canada
 * Woodcroft, Gloucestershire, England
 * Woodcroft, New South Wales, Australia
 * Woodcroft, South Australia
 * Woodcroft (surname)

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User talk:Lethalfang

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William c barry

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedied by RadicalBender. android 79  12:51, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

William c barry

 * Delete. Google turns up no confirmation that this has any basis in reality. —Charles O'Rourke 04:02, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * It's also a reposting of a speedy delete for the same reason. This is a childish attack page, nothing more. - Lucky 6.9 04:08, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Andrew Homer

Andrew Homer (StarHeart): I'm game on: affordable housing, dictator busters, Progressive/reform politics, universal healthcare, real estate investing, socialism, compressed earth block, & Astrology (Relocation, Synastry, Cosmobiology, Uranian Astrology). See my websites @ http://www.WhatWouldJesusDoPAC.org/ & http://www.Motors66.Com/ & http://www.RealtyShowcase.US/ & http://www.TravelAstrology.Com/ & http://www.AndrewHomer.Com/

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Signing
Hi there, I just wanted to let you know a couple things about keeping talk pages easy to read.

The first is that you can sign your name to your posts by typing four tildes ( ~ ), I see that you have been signing all your posts, which is great, but it really helps if you sign using the standard method used by all users...this improves readability and also provides a handy link to your userpage. It seems that you might be signing differently because you want your sig to display a certain way, and that is fine too...you can customize how your signature appears (if you would like help doing this, feel free to ask and I'll help any way I can). Many people customize their signatures in very interesting ways!

The second thing I wanted to mention was that posting your message in the middle of another person's post can be very confusing. Other people's comments can always be quoted within your post if you'd like to respond to a specific part...again, feel free to ask if you'd like any help with this. Thanks. bcatt 18:45, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Police State
The continual reversion of this page is neither helpful nor appreciated. There has already been an RFC on the issue of whether or not the list should be included, and the consensus (which you can clearly see on the talk page) was overwhelming in favor of removing it. siafu 15:36, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Siafu, Have any of you RFCs bothered to study the topic of Police States? I know you haven't. How about sticking to topics you HAVE studied. You know. Like video games. A majority of the world was wrong about the world being flat. You under-achiever psuedo-academics are wrong about removing the list from Police States. Read a book. From someone who apparently knows more about the issue than you wannabes, StarHeart 04:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Clearly you're new here. Perhaps you should consider reviewing some of wikipedia's policies, starting with WP:Civility and No personal attacks.  Also, RFC stands for "request for comment", and does not refer to a person. siafu 00:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Please do not add your own comments to articles. To discuss the content of police state, please post your comments on Talk:Police state. Articles are strictly for encyclopedia text, not editorial notes. Rhobite 20:33, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy: There is no excuse for personal attacks on other contributors. Do not make them. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that you may be blocked for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Since you continue to add condescending personal remarks to articles, instead of participating in civil discussion on Talk:Police state, I have asked administrators to look into your conduct. Please see Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. Rhobite 03:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Starheart, I gotta shake my head, you're making a huge assumption here that the rest of us don't have real world experience, and that's neither right nor polite. Whether the list is a good idea or not has nothing to do with the reality of what Police States are, torture and murder of people by governments is, etc.  This is neither the time nor the place to be having a size queen contest about how many friends, family members, or aquaintences of ours and yours have been victims of police states.  If you happen across me in a bar we can drink to absent friends, but please be civil here.  Georgewilliamherbert 03:49, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Notwithstanding the altogether appropriate points raised by George and Rhobite, inter al., I, having happened upon this discussion after seeing the note at AN/I, am altogether confused. Here, supra, you advise that editors should "[r]ead a book", lest they should continue to be ill-informed "pseudo-academics".  In your edits to the police state article, though, you suggest that "factual edits can actually be based on experience, rather than just being based upon [sic] a BOOK" (one observes that you've constructed a false dilemma here, inasmuch as one can cite books that refer to experiences, and, further, that the implementation of your suggestion would eviscerate WP:CITE).  I wonder, then, which it is: are the editors of the "police state" page (amongst which number I don't count myself) insufficiently well-read or exorbitantly absorbed with books??  I know, I know, don't feed the trolls, but... Joe 04:00, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Dear glib cutey, Ignorance is ignorance. Knowledge is knowledge, regardless of the source. It appears that your peers and you are remiss this concept. StarHeart 04:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I hope I'm the "glib cutey". I should say, of course, that you are altogether correct that "knowledge is knowledge", but that an encyclopedia requires verifiable, objective, non-first-person-experiential contributions.  No one seeks to disabuse you of your knowledge or to deprive you of your right to disseminate that knowledge on your own, but only to suggest that, even as you may be altogether certain of something (and may, in fact, be correct), outside sourcing is required.  Joe 04:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Begs the question then of who needs just another online encyclopedia when with the awesome outreach of the Internet, cumulative insight can be amassed. Hamstring potential? How small minded. StarHeart 04:38, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

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Please do not include personal comments to the reader or comments about other editors in the text of articles. This sort of writing has no place in encyclopedic work. Comments for other users may be placed on their talk pages; those relating to the article may be placed on the article talk page. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

 * StarHeart, it is easy to write a message on a talk page. You would be able to achieve much more here if you just used talk pages, instead of inserting personal comments into actual articles. See Talk page please. Rhobite 14:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Warning: Blatant vandalism
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to Police state, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thanks. Herostratus 16:01, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Warning
Hypocrite!! Deleting valid information from the Dictatorship page is YOUR vandalism. I assume you don't know that because you were raised in a police state. There appears to be ignorant people censoring the Astrology article, the Supernatural Project, the Police State article, and even my own Andrew Homer Article. The only knowledge these fake editors seem to have is how to use a keyboard and how to harrass. StarHeart 03:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I thought I would clear up a few things and make sure you knew what is happening at your Andrew Homer page. First of all, I am sure you know a hell of a lot more about astrology than me - which is fine. You also, obviously, know more about yourself than I do. Neither, however is reason enough for you to be the authority on these matters here on wikipedia, as we also have a (to me at least) hell of a lot of policies (see the welcome notice you got). The problem with astrology is that we cannot write it up as fact unless it has been scientifically tested (and citations for this is very much needed). The problem with your personal page is that unless you are a significantly notable, it is not material for wikipedia - and furthermore, there are problems with Vanity_page and the policy on [|citing sources]. I recommend the page be moved to your userpage (and feel free to change your username to Andrew Homer if you wish). Regards, Lundse 10:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

 * We can write it up as documented fact that people believe these things, even if the things they believe in are not scientifically provable fact. The verifyability criterion does not require that things be objectively true, just demonstratably  reliably accurate information.  That people believe in astrology, and what those beliefs are, can be demonstrably and reliably accurately validated by references to astrology publications and so forth.
 * That information has to be properly labeled as a belief and not an established fact, but that's just a neutral point of view issue. Georgewilliamherbert 22:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Whose "verifyability criterion"??? I hope you're not referring to the fraudulent demands of the Amazing Randi. If everything that can be discovered has been discovered, why is the Patent Office still open? If you ever bothered to take a history of science class, or read a book on the topic (I'm sorry but NOT everything pertinent is on the Internet), you would learn that throughout history, a lot of facts were assumed BEFORE being "scientifically" verified. Just because the reseach tools, themselves, have YET to prove proficiency does NOT mean that the topic being examined is invalid. The validity of Astrology has yet to be challenged by subsequent breakthroughs in physics. Actually, thanks to 'Hyperdimensional Space" the physicists are getting CLOSER to explaining how and why Astrology works!! You debunkers, pretending to be sceptics, insist on taking the bread out of the oven before the yeast kicks in.  Stop pretending to know more than you do.  Haven't the women in your life warned you about that?  StarHeart 23:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Georgewilliamherbert was talking about Wikipedia's verifiability criterion. I have the feeling that you misunderstand the purpose and goals of Wikipedia. Please read Verifiability, No original research, and Neutral point of view to get an idea of what it's all about. — MSchmahl… 18:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Your comment in Validity of astrology
I removed your comment from the article. Please learn the difference between articles and talk pages. Commentary and discussion belongs in talk pages, not in articles. — MediaMangler 01:56, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Paranormal
Being that you are a member of Wikiproject Supernatural I have proposed that you'll merge with the above but I need member support. This is also inviting you to Wikiproject Paranormal. Mahogany -wanna chat?

Adding commentary to articles
You have once again added commentary directly to an article page instead of to its talk page. (Twice to House (astrology), both have since been removed.) It is not unusual for people to find Wikipedia's interface and policies a bit confusing. Please don't hesitate to ask myself or others for help in understanding them. I'm sorry to inform you that adding commentary into articles in the way you have been may be considered disruptive behavior by some admins on this site and, if you persist, might well result in your account being blocked. — MediaMangler 11:30, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

You're so ignorant of the topic of Astrology that you're imcapable of understanding that I was UPDATING the House (astrology) article, not just making inane commentary as you just did. Andrew Homer 19:14, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

 * If you will please bear with me, I will try to explain in more detail. You have signed each of your additions to articles.  If you will look at any article on Wikipedia, you might notice that there are no signatures in any of them.  A signature within the text of an article is grossly inappropriate.  Furthermore, your additions have always been written in the first person ("I don't believe", "I have never heard", etc.).  If you will look at any article on Wikipedia or, indeed, open up any print encyclopedia, you might notice that all articles are written in the third person ("Few people believe", "No claim has been made", etc.).  These are not my rules.  I'm just a guest on this site, just like you.  Journalist provided links to several good references to the rules of this site.  I strongly urge you to read some of them if you wish to have your contributions accepted into the Wikipedia.

 * I have tried to be polite and helpful with you and have been answered with personal attacks. Allow me to  suggest that you should learn to answer politeness politely.  It is possible to disagree without being disagreeable.  Failure to behave in a civil, polite manner is a violation of WP:CIVIL and an admin might use it as grounds for blocking you from editing on this site. — MediaMangler 00:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Recent edits to Astrology
Hi! It's wonderful that you're contributing to Wikipedia! However, please differentiate the Talk pages and the actual article itself before posting personal opinion. Talk pages are solely for the purpose of discussing the article and its contents. It's perfectly fine to add any personal opinion to the talk pages. The article itself, however, should never contain personal opinion. Adding personal comments to an article is considered vandalism and isn't tolerated lightly. Thank you! Sam 03:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

More on your astrology edit
You claim that: "a stock market forecasting newsletter published by an Astrologer is voted as one of the best year after year", for which I would love to see a citation (or at least get the name of the newsletter).

You also claim that "it's the TOOLS of scientific research which have yet to catch up to Astrology to explain its validity". This is a bit confused, it is not the goal of scientific reasearch to "explain" validity, it is the goal to find out whether something is valid or not. There are plenty of ways to do this for astrology, and quite a few have been tried. If you meant to say that this is the task for which science/common sense is not up for, please explain why not.

You also claim that gravity is a part of quantum physics (its a Newtonian concept) and that because new scientific hypotheses do not use it this somehow "gives evem more credibility to the claims of Astrologers." Please explain how this is, does the new scientific concept of "attraction" tell anything about how planets affect people besides (seemingly, to our eyes) attracting them? Lundse 11:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

As usual, your opinions exceed your knowledge. Study hyperdimensional space: Michio Kaku & Brian Greene. Andrew Homer 02:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you should study statistics. Jefffire 08:22, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

 * So hyperdimensional space explains how common sense is not up to the task of testing astrology? And how planets influence me? I know what string theory is, but unfortunately for your argument I also know that it does not do away with the Einsteinian view of gravity - it merely adds to it, positing that there could be other dimensions to which gravitrons escape. How does this fact (that different dimensions "exchange" gravitrons) give credibility to astrology?
 * Try answering me this time, at least give me something to work with - like the name of that newsletter that does so well... Lundse 08:38, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

So, during these last 35 years, how many natal charts have you read for customers to elicit a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down response, rather than just cowardly hiding in front of a keyboard impressing yourself with your unsubstantiated opinions? You were remiss regarding the Law of Attraction. Do your homework or get a life. Or both. Andrew Homer 20:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

 * "Thumbs up" responses is not the way to measure efficacy of anything. Now, I actually have studied philosophy of science and since this is what the basic disagreement is about (how to test validity of a theory/statement) I fail to see how it is me who is trespassing on your "turf" of astrology. What are your credentials regarding science, validity and rationality? Lundse 08:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Since you are resorting to ad hominem I'm guessing you don't have a rational rebutal to Lundse. Jefffire 20:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

 * You may note above that this user has not actually answered any question posed to him, at all. Ad hominem is apparently the first and only line of defense. siafu 20:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Seeing as he has just written a whole paragraph of trolling on talk:astrology I am now inclined to agree. Jefffire 20:33, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Just as soon as you fakes actually make the effort to study the topic you're debunking, then you'll deserve respect. Not until then. 35 years ago I was a sceptic of Astrology. But unlike you unethical debunkers, I made the effort to study the topic and found an amazing portion of it actually works!! So, stop projecting your lack of integrity onto those of us who have made an HONEST effort to assess the validity of Astrology. Until you make a sincere effort your a pathetic fraud. Andrew Homer 20:45, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Can you verify that from a reliable source, or are you just going to insult other editors? Jefffire 20:49, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Same question, more or less. I will also note that I am actively asking you questions here on your userpage and that these questions concern astrology - you can take this to mean that I am willing to learn. Any proof you have (maybe that name of the newsletter?), any indications, any attempt to answer my questions. Lundse 08:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

When I was a sceptic, I did my homework and READ books on the topic of Astrology and interviewed a lot of Astrologers. As a psuedo-intellectual debunker, you're just being a smarmy harrasser. My job description doesn't include providing entertainment for glib shallow punks. Read a book. Andrew Homer 00:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Are we to take it that you won't give a rational rebutal, or can't? Jefffire 09:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Rational rebuttal for the sane: Study a topic BEFORE pretending that you're qualified to critique it. Andrew Homer 20:48, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I am studying the topic. I am asking you to provide me with the name of the newsletter so I can begin my studies where they seem to hold the best chance of disproving my own point (its called falsifiability, look it up). The best evidence you have mentioned is this newsletter, please let me know the name so I can start studying...
 * And I have studied the topic (which is validity and science), have you? The only thing I need from astrology are its proofs and claims - the claims are wide and varied and the proofs are lacking (for some reason, the astrologers I have met seem to be more interested in saying that I do not know enough instead of providing me with data, very odd). Lundse 07:22, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

If you've studied the topic of Astrology with integrity, you'd know you can get everything you need to know regarding Financial Astrology @ http://www.BusinessAstrologers.Com/ Oh, by the way if you have been studying the topic of Astrology, as you claim, where is the Jupiter/Pluto midpoint in your natal chart and it's relevance? What and when is the next pertinent Solar Arc direction to it and how should it play? Andrew Homer 01:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

 * This is my last response to your post regarding this matter.
 * I will follow your link and see if I can find the newsletter you talk about (although I cannot for the life of me understand why you did not just provide its name).
 * I did not claim to have studied astrology, but philosophy of science; this was blindingly obvious from my posts - were you unable to see it or did you purposefully choose to see put words in my mouth? Either way, I do not believe you are capable of a serious discussion. Lundse 06:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for exposing your lack of integrity. You're pretending that you're qualified to critique astrology WITHOUT bothering to STUDY the topic. Likewise, I'm qualified to do brain surgery upon you, because I've studied nutrition. Andrew Homer 00:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm guessing you don't have much experience with double-blind randomized trails? Perhaps ou should study those before making claims about validity. Jefffire 14:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, I think he is confusing 'astrology' with 'objective testing of astrology' - I have tried to explain that we are talking about (and know about) the latter, but he keeps reminding me how little I know of the former. Lundse 16:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Since you Amazing Randi clones are pretending to be authorities on the topic of Astrology, you can pretend some more by getting your grubby paws on the Winter 2006 issue of Geocosmic Journal, published by the NCGR (National Council for Geocosmic Research). This quarterly issue is specifically on Astrological research. Andrew Homer 09:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

 * None of us ever claimed to know anything about being authorities on astrology. You joined a discussion about validity and science - please try reading other peoples messages before assigning them random viewpoints from your own catalogue of archetypes. Lundse 10:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

May 25th
Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Objective validity of astrology. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. -- E ivindt@c 09:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

 * My favorite Astrologer said of debunkers pretending to be objective sceptics: "No whine before its time." Andrew Homer 09:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * First of all you signed your edit useing ~ in an article. Adding your own comentery to an article is vandalism, the fact that it was POV makes it worse. Looking at you talk page, I can see that this isn't your first brush with other editors regarding your edits, you might want to take a look at our welcome page, and try to learn more about Wikipedia before you continue your editing. After a review of your edit and my response I can not see that I've done anything wrong. -- E ivindt@c 23:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Obviously, a little thing like the TRUTH isn't high on the list of you psuedo intellectuals hiding in front of computer monitors. There's a thing called "experience." You might want to try it. Get a life. Or will you just continue to assume the nature of reality like, a good Republican. Andrew Homer 06:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * From Verifiability: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. This means that we only publish material that is verifiable with reference to reliable, published sources." You might want to assume good faith in the future, instead of insulting other editors, this is a colabrative project and not a battleground to impose your own agenda. If your not capable of listening the opinions of others without insulting them, you might want to stick to your own website. -- E ivindt@c 16:52, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I am sorry if this is just rattling your chain, but are you saying that Eivind is wrong in saying that you signed your your post with four tildes in article space, and do you claim to know this better than him because you have more experience? Or are you saying that because you have THE TRUTH (unlike all us losers who have to get a life and never saved the world during the cold war) you are allowed to make POV and signed edits? If so, please try to make this policy before going ahead and doing it, as per current policies. Lundse 14:00, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hi! Just wanted to let you know that User:Marskell had initiated an RfC on my behaviour at Requests for comment/Aquirata. You may wish to comment. Aquirata 13:20, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your post on the RfC. I have moved your comment to the 'Outside view' section, which I believe to be the right place for it. I also endorsed your view because I agree with it in principle. However, in the interest of showing good faith and keeping the RfC as civil as possible, you may wish to tone down the wording so it could be considered a 'view' and not a 'personal attack'. Thanks again! Aquirata 21:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

As I'm continually being slimed by anti-constitution Republicans is one real estate office after another, these last 3 years; I'm, also, sick of the mean-spirited "half-logic" psuedo-academic debunkers here on Wikipedia pretending that they're objective skeptics. I'll tone-down when the knuckle draggers discover integrity. Andrew Homer 05:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, if you are referring to me, then I am not Republican (nor Democrat, I come from that strange world outside of the US where we do not have a two-party system). Should I take your response to mean that you will not "tone down"? Lundse 09:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Lundse, I'm just responding likewise. You insist on double-talk and a lack of integrity and I'll treat you as you deserve. You accuse me of not fully responding to you prior challenges. After 2 weeks I'm still want you to explain the Jupiter/Pluto midpoint in your natal chart. OR GET LOST!!! Obviously, your "problems" which magnetizes you to a topic which you're not qualified to discuss plus your confession that you haven't studied Astrology PROVES you have "issues" you're not dealing with. Andrew Homer 11:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

 * First of all, please note that I never claimed to know anything about astrology, but about scientific objectivity and validity. These were the topics being discussed (and applied to astrology, which is why you and other astrologer's input is needed and appreciated). I will not "get lost" as I have something to contribute to the debate on validity, if you believe one must have studied astrology before one can talk scientific validity, please raise this as a seperate point and present your argument.
 * More importantly, I have had enough of your personal attacks now. I asked you whether you were going to stop and between the new personal attacks I sensed that you would not. Now I ask you one last time to stop throwing out stuff like "You insist on double-talk", "lack of integrity", "OR GET LOST!!!" or saying that I have "problems" and "issues" i'm not dealing with. I see myself forced to file a complaint about your behaviour if you do not.

 * I hope we can work this out without having to make a big fuss and inconvinience the system. Lundse 12:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I've worked it out. You haven't. Get therapy. Goad and harrass someone else, little man. Andrew Homer 08:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. Petros471 10:23, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not the deranged harrasser here. You and yours are. Project your personality onto someone else. Andrew Homer 07:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Language of this kind will not reflect well in the RfC. Please do not make personal attacks against fellow editors. Jefffire 11:36, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Then grow up and stop spamming on my page. I hear your mommy calling. Run along. Andrew Homer 18:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

 * [[Image:Stop hand.svg|left|30px]]

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. Petros471 19:31, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

STOP SPAMMING!!! Andrew Homer 10:46, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I am not spamming. I am warning you that you have made personal attacks that are in violation of Wikipedia's NPA policy. If you continue to make personal attacks against other contributors, you will be blocked. Petros471 10:54, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Please reply to messages either on your talk page, or on my talk page, but not on my userpage. As for your question I have already answered it above. Petros471 10:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Your reinsertion of comment
Is against policy - read the page and you will see it says at the bottom that such comments should be on the talk page. I am not trying to censor you but to keep the discussion within the rules laid down - address me on the talk page if you wish. Also, you have not put your name on the list supporting Aq. (where I assume you want to put it). Lundse 23:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Blocked
Despite repeated warnings you have continued making personal attacks, and have now started vandalising userpages. Therefore I have blocked you for 24 hours. On your return please stick to addressing disputes appropriately. To learn more about this please read: No personal attacks, Civility, Etiquette and Resolving disputes. Petros471 11:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll repeat to hypocritical debunker Petros471 what Lundse censored from his page:

 * Stop spamming on my talk page!!!! Why do you keep harrassing on the Astrology articles when you admit you have NOT studied Astrology. If you haven't studied brain surgery, do you believe your opinions are relevant on a brain surgery article??? Andrew Homer 11:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, you wrote the comment on my main page and not talk space as is customary - it is hardly censorship if I choose to delete a message you send to me (in the wrong place). And BTW, you still have not answered why you think one has to study astrology in order to talk about validity and methodology of science (and whether you have studied these). Lundse 00:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I've been answering that question in almost every other post here on Wikipedia when I challenge you unethical debunkers on your under-informed deliberate misinformation you and yours keeps spewing onto the pages of Wikipedia.

 * This is the THIRD time I'm asking you to explain what the Jupiter/Pluto midpoint in your natal chart is about and how has it been activated by Solar-arc Directions and what have been your experiences during those periods?

 * The serious Astrologers I've meet since 1969 have high IQs. They're capable of keeping up their end of intelligent conversations.  Is your inability to answer the above question an admission of limited wherewithall?  Or if you don't get patted on the head by your favorite professor, an endeavor isn't worth the effort?  Andrew Homer 19:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * You have not answered why one needs to study astrology in order to say something about validity, you have just claimed it time and again. Please show me one single instance of you saying why it is so.
 * I have told you time and again that I do not know anything about the specifics of astrology, rendering whatever point you are trying to make about my inability to answer your astrology question moot - I am clamoring for evidence, not more (astrology) theory.
 * I see you are back at personal attacks, I have told you to stop before and I think I have done so pretty nicely all things considered. I take your recent attacks on me and the administrator who blocked you for attacking him as signs that you are not going to change your ways. Until this matter is resolved, I am not going to argue with you any further, therefore two final questions:
 * Are you willing to live up to the guidelines on Civility or not, and do you find your post above to be in concordance with them? Lundse 23:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

User talk:67.0.219.211
Please do not vandalize my user page. If you have anything to say to me please use my talk page. I have no idea why you have a problem with my warning at 67.0.219.211 (that too on March 1 2006). If you look at the contributions here you will see that 67.0.219.211 made an edit to Albuquerque Academy - here's the diff. "st pius sUKS ass" is considered to be vandalism and hence the warning on User talk:67.0.219.211.

Articles for deletion/David Cochrane
I thought I'd let you know that the David Cochrane article has ben listed for deletion. In my view, it is important and in the interests of WP that users knowledgeable about the subject matter make their views known. If you wish to comment, please do so here:. Aquirata 12:42, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been temporarily blocked from editing for disrupting Wikipedia by making personal attacks. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires.

You've been round this particular route before, and are apparently completely unrepentant. Wikipedia is not a battleground. Take your fights to Usenet and come back when you can work productively even with those you disagree with. While you are blocked I commend to you these notes for the pasisonate. Remember, what Wikipedia documents is not The TruthTM but what can be verified from reliable secondary sources, giving due weight to all informed and significant points of view.

Above all you seem intent on personalising content disputes. Your problems on Wikipedia are not going to stop until you revise that approach radically. Please use the time to reflect, and to investigate how Wikipedia normally works. Just zis Guy you know? 16:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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 * The valid reason to be "unblocked" is that this is just another campaign of abuse by non-astrologer monitors who continually harrass and spam us Astrologers on the Astrology, Zodiac, etc articles & talk pages. Why is it against Wikipedia policy to only have Astrologers police these pages, instead of repeatedly being spammed by under-informed debunkers who brag about NOT knowing anything about these topics???  The behavior of these debunking monitors is completely senseless, immature, and mean-spirited.  Someone once said that "When the petty are given power, notice how they abuse it."  Andrew Homer 16:04, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Gee, the unethical & mean-spirited bullies keep proving how insecure they are in front of a keyboard. What a suprise!  They can't win rational discourse, but they flaunt the lose standards where anyone can become a Wikipedia monitor.  I like challenging debaters.  No challenges here.  Just the petty proving how unqualified they are debating informed Astrologers.  Let the pogroms & krystallnachts BEGIN!!  Anyone have a Geocosmic Journal on them that I could read, while the debunkers are waiting for their puberty to kick in?  So, how does one deal with those proud of their ignorance?  Notice no constructive input from the so-called "monitors."  Us real Astrologers are bad people, because the inadequate keep lurking on article pages over their head and then harrass us who do comprehend the topic.  No justice here.  Just pathetic egos.  At least staying on Wikipedia, they're not kicking kittens.  Andrew Homer 03:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

 * "Informed Astrologers," now there's an oxymoron if I've ever seen one. Please do not desecrate the memory of the millions of Jews who died in pogroms and the Holocaust by trivializing those words. Comparing your petty complaints to genocidal crimes is highly offensive. Askolnick 15:35, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

 * The best way to appeal a block for personal attacks is not to repeat those personal attacks. I am resetting the block counter for another week.  You really do need to realise that WP:NPA is fundamental when diverse points of view are in conflict.
 * The reason we don't only have believers patrolling the astrology and other related articles is patently obvious: WP:NPOV is non-negotiable. You can't ensure neutrality by having only converts edit the article.  If you want to portray the subject in an uncritical way then you are in the wrong project - you probably want Wikinfo.  Just zis Guy you know? 15:36, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * As a typical unethical debunker (Republican?) you put words in my mouth. I never stated ANYTHING about "uncritical".  It's about mean-spirited attackers who do NOT even bother to study the topic.  What course in the scientific method or course in ethical journalism expounds expressing an opinion without even bothering to study the topic?  Besides proving lack of knowledge you guys are also proving lack of morals.  The standards to be a monitor onboard Wikipedia are clearly low.  No attempt regarding integrity, ethics, honor or honesty on your part.  You may be blocking me on Wikipedia, but I know that you and yours are being blocked socially, because of your relentless lack of ethics.  Andrew Homer 21:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

 * The best way to appeal a block for personal attacks is not to repeat those personal attacks. Stop now.  Just zis Guy you know? 21:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Revert of your edit to Astrology
I reverted your edit. The material you added lacks any verification. You have attempted to add the same material in the past, have been asked to substantiate it and have refused. Please provide some verifiable references if you choose to add the material again. --MediaMangler 07:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Lundse response
Hi, I responded to your... well, response. But I put it in my own userspace, as it has little relevance to the astrology article directly (I put a link there). I'd still like your answer or links to answers. Its at User_talk:Lundse. Just delete this message and/or don't go there to ignore (I won't post here again). Lundse 00:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:Astrology project would like your views on what constitutes appropriate content and sources for astrology-related content
Hi, this is to let you know that there is an important discussion taking place in the WP:Astrology project, which affects the guidelines for content and sources on astrology-related pages. This requires input from its members. It would be very much appreciated if you could leave a comment/express your views on the issues raised.

The link to the discussion is here.

Hope you can find time to add a few thoughts

Thank you, -- Zac  Δ talk! 14:03, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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East Palace, West Palace

East Palace, West Palace is a 1996 Chinese film directed by Zhang Yuan, starring Hu Jun and Si Han, and based on a short story by writer Wang Xiaobo. It is also known as Behind the Forbidden City or Behind the Palace Gates.

East Palace, West Palace is the first mainland Chinese movie with an explicitly homosexual theme. The title of the movie is derived from the two parks near the Forbidden City—the East Palace and the West Palace. The parks, specifically their public washrooms, are well-known for being places of nighttime congregation for homosexuals.

Plot
Homosexuality in China isn't illegal, but homosexuals are routinely persecuted by police and arrested for "hooliganism". The film focuses on a young gay writer called A-Lan who, being attracted to a young policeman named Xiao Shi, manages to have himself arrested and interrogated for a whole night. His life-story, which he tells during the interrogation, reflects the general repression of Chinese society. Xiao Shi's attitude shifts from the initial revulsion to fascination and, finally, to attraction.

Cast

 * Si Han as A-Lan
 * Hu Jun as Xiao Shi
 * Zhao Wei as Classmate in white shirt
 * Jing Ye as A-Lan as a youth
 * Liu Yuxiao as female thief
 * Ma Wen as Yamen runner
 * Wang Quan as A-Lan (young)
 * Lu Rong as A-Lan's mother
 * Zhao Xiaoyu as cop
 * Yang Jian as cop

Production
The film was shot in the spring of 1996, when it was smuggled out of China for post-production in France. The film was produced by Christophe Menager, Christophe Jung, and Zhang Yuan, executive produced by Willy Tsao, associate produced by Zhang Yukang, and edited by Vincent Lévy, with sound by Wu Gang, Shen Jiaqin, and Bruno Lecoeur, music by Xiang Min, and art direction by An Bing; its director of photography was Jian Zhang. Its screenplay was written by Zhang Yuan and Wang Xiaobo. It was produced by Amazon Entertainment Limited and Quelqu'un d'Autre Productions and distributed by Fortissimo Films.

Release
East Palace, West Palace premiered at the Mar del Plata Film Festival in Argentina in November 1996 and at the 1997 Cannes Film Festival as part of the Un Certain Regard competition.

Reception
East Palace, West Palace received mostly positive reviews, holding a score of 80% on Rotten Tomatoes based on five critics. Lawrence Van Gelder of the New York Times described the film as "powerful drama and courageous politics," and Kevin Thomas of the Los Angeles Times praised Si and Hu's performances, calling the film "bold and daring" and reading it as a critique of authoritarian government. In Variety, Derek Elley provided a more negative review, describing the film as "beautifully shot" but also criticizing its portrayal of homosexuality as dated and describing A-Lan's repeated flashbacks as repetitive.

title: East Palace, West Palace


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User talk:Aphexcoil

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An article with the name BeachSide on this same club recently was voted for deletion, with most entries citing non-notable as the reason: See Votes_for_deletion/Log/2005_August_18 for previous VfD. --Daveb 04:03, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Lads Guide To Rio

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 * Delete. Non-notable web site, advertising. —Charles O'Rourke 04:04, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

I had not finished it yet, the website was the reference, my source. I was just putting in all the links to the celebrities including Helo Pinheiro, Ronaldo, Noel From Oasis which I think would be worthy as cross reference. Helo Pinheiro isn't even here and she inspired the song The Girl From Ipanema, it was written about her.

 * Delete -- Ryan Norton T 04:55, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

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 * Delete - Peeper 09:30, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as advertising. — J I P | Talk 09:48, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
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Salamasina

Queen Salamasina (floruit in the 1500s) was a powerful and high-ranking woman in Samoan social history. She held the four papā (district) titles which gave her the paramount status of Tafa‘ifā ('one supported by four') on the western islands of Samoa. Contrary to popular belief she was not the first Tafa'ifā, as these titles were willed to her by their previous possessor, Nafanua (Tonumaipe'a Nāfanua). She is the titular ancestor of two of the four paramount titles of Samoa, Tupua Tamasese of Falefa and Salani and the Amaile Mataafa line.

Family History
Salamāsina descended from several powerful royal bloodlines. Her mother, Vaetoefaga, was an extremely highborn noblewoman who enjoyed a lofty position in both Samoan and Tongan societies. Vaetoefaga's father was the Tu‘i Tonga Kau‘ulufonua II (a son of Tu'i Tonga Kau'ulufonua I and the Samoan noblewoman Vainu'ulasi) and her mother was Taupoimāsina (the daughter of high chief Lefono of Amoa, Savai'i). As a teenager Vaetoefaga became the tenth and last wife of the Samoan paramount sovereign chief of Ā'ana, Tui Ā‘ana Tamaalelagi, with whom she conceived their daughter Salamāsina. One of Tamaalelagi's royal attendants named Utufanunutunutu traveled to the Tongan island of Tongatapu with the intent of securing Vaetoefaga as Tamaalelagi's wife. He deceived her family with fantastical stories about the land and people of Samoa and succeeded in arranging the marriage and an impressive dowry. As part of the arrangement, Vaetoefaga's brother Ulualofaigā was given political concessions in Fagaloa (in Atua district). Vaetoefaga prompted the construction of the Tui Ā‘ana's "unofficial" residence (akin to a vacation home) near Vaialua in Nofoali‘i, A‘ana after being threatened by the families of Tamaalelagi's other wives. Vaetoefaga left Nu‘uausala (the Tui Ā‘ana's residence in Leulumoega) to seek refuge among her Tongan relatives who had settled in the villages allotted to her brother (Tamasese 2004:10). Her home was named Afeafe-o-Vaetoefaga ("refuge of Vaetoefaga") to commemorate this fearful time of persecution and conflict between the budding Tongan community and the established Samoan factions.

Life
Salamāsina’s mother, Vaetoefaga, returned to Tonga and entrusted Salamāsina to the safe-keeping of Levalasi So‘oa‘emalelagi. So'oa'emalelagi was the principal wife of the paramount sovereign of the Atua district, Tui Ātua Māta‘utia, and Salamāsina was raised as their own daughter.

Adulthood and reign
She was betrothed as a youth to marry a chief named Tonumaipe‘a Tapumanaia in order to form a political alliance with the influential Tonumaipe‘a faction of Savai‘i. However, Salamāsina eloped with the man of her choice, the untitled Alapepe. Their relationship brought forth a daughter named Lupefofoaivaoese, who grew to become Tui Ā‘ana and the ancestress of several prominent Samoan families, including the line that would rule Samoa until the death of Safeofafine. Alapepe was pursued by the furious Tonumaipe‘a clan to Tongatapu, where he was killed for "defiling" the taupou.

Salamāsina also had a son by Tapumanaia, who was named after his father. He later received the Sātele title of the Salani and Sālesātele villages in Falealili, Atua, ‘Upolu.

Queen Salamāsina goes back to Lotofaga because her father is from Lotofaga and she stayed there until she died. She had attained the lofty status of Tafa‘ifā during her lifetime and both her son (by Tapumanaia) and her daughter (by Alapepe) inherited high rank and prestige through her. Her reign is notable in Samoan history for its absence of warfare and many Samoans today feel pride in tracing their ancestry to Queen Salamasina.

Legacy
Scholars have been particularly interested in Salamāsina's life (and the fact that her supreme titles passed on to her chiefly descendants primarily through her daughter Lupefofoaivaoese) because ancient Samoa has often been portrayed as a male dominated society.

Penelope Schoeffel and Gavan Daws point to Salamāsina's significance as the ancestor of many powerful Samoan rulers: "Salamasina's historical significance was that she was the means of drawing together all the great aristocratic bloodlines and links to supernatural power in a period of political transformation, to create a basis of legitimacy for the new power-brokers of Samoa, the orator group Tumua of A'ana and Atua. For the next four centuries or so, they were to manipulate the new dynasty she gave birth to through control of the paramount titles which they were empowered to bestow."TONGAN INVASION/DEFEAT

-A plot to invade Samoa & kidnap Queen Salamasina, was hatched bye her Maternal Uncle Ulualofaiga (of the Tu’itonga Dynasty) and his Samoan supporters, Who were also the assassinators of her Adoptive mothers husband. Soon This plot was discovered. Salamasina and her armies marched to Fagaloa Village to confront him. Before his armies could kidnap her she had already had reinforcements from each village coming in to defeat them. Warriors from the mountains came out calling with their conch shells and more came from the Sea in their War canoes, finally more Warriors came from the jungle & bush. With Ulualofaiga Surrounded, he drops down to his knees and prostrates himself towards the Queen, begging for her mercy & his life whilst Admitting pathetic defeat. Salamasina granted him mercy only because he was the brother of her biological Mother, Tongan Princess Vaetoefaga. She granted him mercy but he was never allowed to leave Samoa and never to go back home to Tonga. All of his men took running for the shores and got in their War Boats (Va’afusuaga) fleeing back to Tonga. The only 2 people that were not granted mercy were his two Samoan Advisers, And assassins of her late Adoptive father. She let her adoptive mother ‘Sooaemalelagi’ have her revenge on them. She would have both of them Burnt alive atop a hill for all to see.

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Samundri

Samundri (Urdu, Punjabi: ) is a city and headquarters of Samundri Tehsil located in Faisalabad District of Punjab province, Pakistan.

It is the 55th most populous city of Pakistan, according to the 2017 census.

Etymology
Samundri was on a major trade route during the reign of Sher Shah Suri. The present site of Samundri city was founded in 1887 as Chak No. 533 G.B. Later it was renamed as Seh Mundri because of three Hindu mandirs in the area. The word Seh (سه) means Three in Persian and Mandir is a Sanskrit word for temple.

Modern
In 1887, there were three Hindu shrines in this area but now what remains, houses the Government Primary School No 4. Migration between India and Pakistan was continuous before the independence. By the 1930s Western Punjab was predominantly Muslim and supported the Muslim League and Pakistan Movement. After the independence in August 1947, the minority Hindus and Sikhs migrated to India while the Muslim refugees from Eastern Punjab in India settled in Western Punjab and across Pakistan. Today Samundri is known for its contributions to Pakistan's Kabaddi team providing dozens of big names especially from Chak 176 G.B and 478 G.B. It has many Gujjar, Rajput and Jat farmers who tend to be physically strong and larger in constitution than elsewhere in the region.

Geography
Samundri is located at 31°03'45"N 72°57'15"E (31.063, 72.954), at an altitude of 168 metres (429 ft), and is 45 km from Faisalabad, 66 km from Jhang, 30 km from Gojra, 46 km from Sahiwal and just 15 km from Tandlianwala. The upcoming Karachi-Lahore Motorway will pass through the neighborhood of Tandlianwala known as Samundari Interchange Km 1016 on Samundari-Tandlianwala Road. Then it will be easily accessible from Lahore and Multan. The Post Code of Samundari is 37300.

Economy
Samundri is home to a major grain, whole corn & sugar market. Sugarcane and wheat are the major crops of the area, while corn is the most-traded good locally. Rice is also grown here but, due to water shortages, fewer farmers opt to grow it. Vegetables are grown on many hectares, fulfilling 50% of the demand.

The Anarkali Bazaar is the main commercial market of the city, and the Jinnah Market is the oldest. Other markets in the city include Jamat Ali Bazaar, Katchery Bazaar, Mandi Bazaar, Nehar Bazaar, Qasim Bazaar, Kashmiri Bazaar, Sunny Plaza and Chaki Bazaar.

Samundri is also known for its custom truck painting business.

Major Banks in Samundari:

 * 1) National Bank of Pakistan
 * 2) Zarai Taraqiati Bank Limited
 * 3) Habib Bank Limited (2 Branches)
 * 4) United Bank Limited
 * 5) Allied Bank Limited
 * 6) Muslim Commercial Bank Limited (2 Branches)
 * 7) Bank Alfalah
 * 8) Soneri Bank
 * 9) Meezan Bank
 * 10) Faysal Bank
 * 11) Al-Barka Bank
 * 12) Bank Al-Habib

Notable residents

 * Rana Ramish Amin, (social activist, Pakistan Tehreek E Insaaf active worker Rajpoot Family )
 * Rao Kashif Rahim Khan (MPA)(105)
 * Arif Mehmood Gill (MPA) 104

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CKLQ-FM

CKLQ-FM (Q Country 91.5 FM) is a commercial FM radio station in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada. In addition to its FM signal, it has a nested rebroadcaster at 880 kHz, CKLQ. The two stations simulcast a country format. They are owned and operated by Pattison Media Ltd. CKLQ-AM-FM, along with sister station CKLF-FM, have their radio studios and offices at 624 14th Street East, on Brandon's east end.

CKLQ-FM has an effective radiated power (ERP) of 100,000 watts, the current maximum for Canadian FM stations. CKLQ is powered at 10,000 watts, day and night. Because 880 AM is a clear channel frequency reserved for Class A WCBS in New York City, CKLQ has a directional signal at all times. At night, when radio waves travel farther, it uses a four-tower array to prevent interference to WCBS.

History
CKLQ started broadcasting in October 1977 at a frequency of 1570 kHz and moved to its 880 frequency in 1985.

On January 6, 2016, the CRTC approved Riding Mountain's application to convert CKLQ to 91.5 MHz with an effective radiated power of 100,000 watts (non-directional antenna with an effective height of antenna above average terrain of 325.6 metres). Riding Mountain also received approval for an AM rebroadcasting transmitter which would operate on CKLQ's current frequency and technical parameters, at 880 kHz (class B) with a daytime and nighttime transmitter power of 10,000 watts.

CKLQ-FM signed on the air on Thursday, April 27, 2017, at 4:15 p.m., rebranding as Q Country 91.5 FM.

In September 2022, Westman announced the sale of CKLQ and CKLF to Pattison Media.

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Javier Aguirre

Javier Aguirre Onaindía (born 1 December 1958), nicknamed El Vasco (The Basque), is a Mexican football manager and former footballer who played as a midfielder.

Aguirre played for Mexico at the 1986 World Cup, and was twice manager of the team, taking them to the World Cup in 2002 and 2010. He also won the 2009 CONCACAF Gold Cup and led them to the final of the 2001 Copa América. Later, he managed Japan and Egypt.

At club level, Aguirre led six clubs in Spain's La Liga. He finished fourth with Osasuna in 2006 and Atlético Madrid in 2008. He took Atlético and Mallorca to Copa del Rey finals, losing in 2005 and 2024 respectively. He also won the CONCACAF Champions League with Monterrey in 2021.

Early and personal life
Aguirre was born in Mexico City on 1 December 1958, and nicknamed El Vasco as his parents were both from the Basque Country of Spain. His mother was from the town of Guernica and his father was from Ispaster, and they migrated to Mexico in 1950. He qualified for a Spanish passport, which aided his career due to its strength compared to the Mexican one. He gave his three sons Basque names: Iker, Ander and Iñaki.

Club
Aguirre began his career as a youth product of Club América in 1979, though he was sold to Los Angeles Aztecs of the North American Soccer League. Club América later bought him back, where he established himself as a midfielder. He played an integral part in their various title winning seasons, most notably during the 1983–84 season where América reached the league finals against arch-rivals Guadalajara, managing to score a goal in a 3–1 win at the Estadio Azteca. Aguirre signed with Osasuna in Spain in 1986. In 1987, he transferred to Guadalajara, where he made over 100 appearances up until his retirement in 1993.

International
Aguirre made 59 appearances for the Mexico national team between 1983 and 1992, scoring 13 goals. He played in the FIFA World Cup on home soil in 1986, and was sent off in the quarter-final defeat to West Germany; the game went to penalties after a 0–0 draw. He was the first Mexican to be sent off at a World Cup.

Early years
After retiring as a player, Aguirre took up managing, first with Atlante and then Club Pachuca, where he won the Invierno championship in 1999.

Mexico
On 22 June 2001, Aguirre was appointed manager of Mexico when Enrique Meza resigned; the team were fifth in their qualifying group for the 2002 FIFA World Cup after losing 3–1 away to Honduras, in a run of one win in 12 games. In his first game on 1 July, El Tri beat rivals the United States at home with a single Jared Borgetti goal. The Mexicans qualified in second place behind Costa Rica after a 3–0 win at the Estadio Azteca against the Hondurans on 11 November.

Also in July 2001, Aguirre led Mexico at the 2001 Copa América in Colombia. They defeated Brazil, Chile and Uruguay before losing the final by a single goal to the hosts. A year later at the 2002 World Cup in South Korea and Japan, his side won their group at Italy's expense before losing 2–0 to the US in the second round.

Osasuna
On 6 June 2002, while leading Mexico at the World Cup, Aguirre joined Spanish La Liga club CA Osasuna when Miguel Ángel Lotina quit for RC Celta de Vigo; he had previously played for the Navarrese club. In his first season in Pamplona, the club reached the semi-finals of the Copa del Rey, losing 4–2 on aggregate to Recreativo de Huelva.

In 2004–05, Aguirre went one better, guiding Osasuna to the cup final, where they lost 2–1 after extra time to Real Betis. In the following league season, the Rojillos beat Sevilla FC to a joint-best 4th place and their first qualification to the UEFA Champions League, having led the table after 11 games.

Atlético Madrid
On 24 May 2006, days after Osasuna finished the season in fourth, Aguirre signed a one-year contract to replace Pepe Murcia at Atlético Madrid. After a fourth-place finish in 2008 confirmed a place in the Champions League, he extended his deal by another year.

Aguirre was dismissed from the Vicente Calderón Stadium on 2 February 2009, after a run of two points from five games. He was replaced by the team's former goalkeeper Abel Resino, who arrived from CD Castellón.

Return to Mexico
On 3 April 2009, Aguirre was officially appointed as the new manager of the Mexico national team, replacing Sven-Göran Eriksson. He was officially presented as Mexico manager in a press conference on 16 April 2009. At the press conference, he stated: "I add, gentlemen, that I want the player who comes, come with pride, to recover the identity that comes with our love for the shirt" and that a call-up "is a reward and not a punishment, that we're all here because it is a prize for our careers." His annual salary was reported to be US$1,635,000.

On 6 June 2009, Aguirre debuted in a 2010 FIFA World Cup qualifier against El Salvador, losing 2–1. However, he rebounded four days later with a 2–1 win over Trinidad and Tobago.

On 9 July 2009, Aguirre was ejected in an incident during the 2009 CONCACAF Gold Cup match versus Panama. During a play along the sideline, Aguirre kicked Panamanian player Ricardo Phillips, triggering Phillips to push Aguirre, causing ejections for both Aguirre and Phillips and delaying the match for over 10 minutes due to the refusal of the player from Panama to leave the field. Aguirre apologized to the Mexican fans, media, football players and staff, but never extended such courtesy to Philips or the Panamanian team. He was suspended for three games and the Mexican Football Federation was fined US$25,000 by CONCACAF.

On 26 July 2009, Aguirre led Mexico to its fifth Gold Cup title and its first win against the United States outside of Mexico since 1999. He then led Mexico to a comeback win over the same opposition at the Estadio Azteca on 12 August 2009 and followed it up by winning 3–0 in Costa Rica, putting Mexico closer to a qualifying spot for the World Cup that seemed to be an impossible task at the time when Eriksson was sacked. On 10 October 2009, Mexico beat El Salvador in the Estadio Azteca 4–1, qualifying Mexico for the 2010 FIFA World Cup.

After that, in their last hexagonal game against Trinidad and Tobago, they tied 2–2, ending the World Cup qualifying journey.

On 30 June 2010, Aguirre resigned as coach of Mexico following their failure to reach the quarter-finals of the 2010 FIFA World Cup in South Africa. Mexico finished second in Group A, ahead of hosts South Africa and France, but their progress was halted in the round of 16 where they were defeated 3–1 by Argentina.

Aguirre's decision-making during the qualifying stages and during the World Cup garnered criticism, with ESPN broadcaster José Ramón Fernández calling him the worst coach at the World Cup after France's Raymond Domenech. His insistence on playing team-less striker Guillermo Franco, while keeping Manchester United striker Javier Hernández on the bench bewildered many fans and commentators. Aguirre came under additional criticism for his refusal to explain his decisions.

During the run up to the World Cup Aguirre expressed his desire to coach in the Premier League in England, but did not receive any offers.

Real Zaragoza
Aguirre was named manager of Real Zaragoza on 17 November 2010, he was presented in a press conference the following day. He was sacked on 29 December 2011 for putting the team in the relegation zone, the club owner quoted that the team has never done so bad in their club history.

Espanyol
On 28 November 2012, Aguirre was named manager of RCD Espanyol, at that point 20th in the La Liga table. He kept them up in the 2013–14 season by three points. Aguirre announced he was leaving Espanyol on 16 May 2014, and was replaced 11 days later by former player Sergio.

Japan
In August 2014, Aguirre was named as new manager of the Japan national team, replacing Alberto Zaccheroni, who had resigned following the World Cup. At the 2015 AFC Asian Cup, Japan won all three of its group matches, scoring seven goals and conceding none, though was knocked out in the quarter-final by the United Arab Emirates.

On 3 February 2015, the Japanese Football Association announced they had annulled the contract with Aguirre, after they confirmed that Spanish anti-corruption investigators had indicted Aguirre, who they alleged was involved in an ongoing match-fixing investigation over Real Zaragoza's 2–1 win over Levante on the final day of the 2010–11 season, while Aguirre was manager of Zaragoza.

Al Wahda
On 18 June 2015, Aguirre was hired as new manager of the Al-Wahda FC from United Arab Emirates. On 21 May 2017, after leading Al Wahda to the President's Cup championship victory, Aguirre decided to step down as manager.

Egypt
In July 2018, Aguirre was on a four-man shortlist for the vacant Egyptian national team manager job. He was appointed manager in August 2018. During the 2019 Africa Cup of Nations, which was hosted in Egypt, the national team was eliminated by South Africa in the Round of 16. As a result, Aguirre was sacked along with the whole technical and administrative staff of the national team for the disappointing result.

Leganés
In November 2019, Aguirre returned to La Liga, taking over a CD Leganés team after the dismissal of Mauricio Pellegrino. He signed to the end of the season, with the option of another. The team were relegated on the final day of the season in July 2020, and he left.

Monterrey
In December 2020, Aguirre returned to Liga MX for the first time since 2001, signing a two-year deal at Monterrey. On 26 February 2022, he was dismissed from his position after a run of disappointing results.

Mallorca
On 24 March 2022, Aguirre returned to La Liga, joining RCD Mallorca, who were one point inside the relegation zone with nine games to go. He kept the team up on the final day at the expense of Granada CF, by winning away at his former club Osasuna.

Nineteen years after reaching the final with Atlético Madrid, Aguirre led Mallorca to the 2024 Copa del Rey final, where they lost on penalties to Athletic Bilbao after a 1–1 draw at the Estadio de La Cartuja in Seville. On 22 May 2024, Aguirre and Mallorca parted ways.

Controversy
In January 2015, it has been reported by Spanish media that a Valencia court had accepted a claim filed by Spanish prosecutors alleging some 40 people, including Aguirre, were involved in fixing a match between his former club Real Zaragoza and Levante UD in 2011. Court proceedings were expected to start the following month. Aguirre had previously denied the accusations at a press conference held in December 2014.

Player
América
 * Mexican Primera División: 1983–84

Manager
Pachuca
 * Mexican Primera División: Invierno 1999

Osasuna
 * Copa del Rey runner-up: 2004–05

Al-Wahda
 * UAE President's Cup: 2016–17
 * UAE League Cup: 2015–16

Monterrey
 * CONCACAF Champions League: 2021

Mallorca
 * Copa del Rey runner-up: 2023–24

Mexico
 * CONCACAF Gold Cup: 2009
 * Copa América runner-up: 2001

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