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In looking through the list of alumni
I see Trischa Zorn, Law 2005, but on her page all it says about her university career is, "Zorn studied at the University of Nebraska, and, as of 2001, "teaches third and fourth graders with special needs in Indianapolis". Perhaps someone who actually knows (i.e., not me) can update her page.  Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 14:27, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * This G-search for "Trischa Zorn, Law 2005" (where the quotes were included in the query) produces 5 hits:
 * liquisearch names "Wikipedia Alumni (i.e. our article) as source
 * Pr. G-berg credits "World Heritage Encyclopedia Edition" via a thumbnail and bottom of the page text
 * World Heritage Encyclopedia includes boilerplate that includes WP among its sources
 * Wikiwand duplicates the text of this talk page, including at least 1 contrib i added in the last few hours]
 * "Wikipeetia, the misspelled encyclopedia" lives up to its slogan by misspelling about 90% of our text, including of course "teh".
 * Someone (even more obsessive/compulsive than i) may want to do a WikiBlame search in pursuit of greater clarity about when it disappeared, or examine our colleague Carptrash's contribs against the possibility that they did something about it themself. When you know when it disappeared, Wikiblame will probably be less frustrating as a tool for determining when it first appeared, which may be helpful in understanding, or at least in further investigation for a source or explanation. --Jerzy•t 03:12, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Articles after IUPUI splits
Now that it's 2024, we ought to discuss how we are going to structure the Wikipedia articles on the two schools. As I see it, there are two possibilities:

 * 1) Create two new articles, Indiana University Indianapolis and Purdue University Indianapolis. Each of these would contain history of IUPUI that is relevant to the particular university, and the current article would contain only the history and other information pertinent to IUPUI pre-split.
 * 2) Create one new article for Purdue University Indianapolis, as above, and change the name of the current article to Indiana University Indianapolis.

What do you all think? Are there any possibilities that I overlooked? Indyguy (talk) 22:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

 * The first option seems to be a lot cleaner and easier. It also matches my own perspective about what is happening - what is/was IUPUI is being dissolved and its resources divided that the two parent universities are using to make new campuses/locations. It's even possible that one or both of these new "institutions" may not even merit its own article - I spoke with a Purdue faculty member about this yesterday and he indicated that this will be some kind of extension of the West Lafayette campus with little independence so it's possible that the Purdue portion of not-IUPUI may end up becoming a small section in Purdue University. ElKevbo (talk) 16:35, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't this (the under-emphasized nature the Purdue Indy campus) tip toward the second option proposed by @Indyguy? I think that the main history of the campus will be the story of one that once included Purdue, but was always (mainly) an IU campus. It would seem to me that retaining but renaming the current entry while noting the departure of Purdue is closer to what is actually happening. But ... I may not have enough distance. I'll be working for IUI soon. If it helps, see a similar discussion for the disolution of IPFW -- Jaireeodell (talk) 01:30, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Satellite campuses often do have their own articles; see for example University of Cincinnati Blue Ash College and University of Cincinnati Clermont College. So a Purdue University in Indianapolis article is in order, especially since its history is much different than the main campus.
 * The main advantage of having a separate IUPUI article is that it's a place to put the pre-split history that wouldn't really be appropriate in an Indiana University Indianapolis article. There is a history section here and some opportunity to expand it.  So I'd prefer the three-article plan. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 01:02, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

The IUPUI split is official on July 1, 2024
Hi all - I work for IU Communications and Marketing. The division of the two schools is complete as of today (July 1, 2024), and the new Indiana University Indianapolis website is now live, which may be helpful to your research. If you would like some general campus photos and the new logo, I am happy to get those to you.

If you have questions and want to speak with someone, let me know. Thanks! Ucmturn (talk) 18:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

 * Hi @Ucmturn, thanks for offering to help. If you have photos that can be released under a Creative Commons or Public Domain license, that would be helpful. IU has many photos on its websites, but these are not available under an agreeable license. Wikipedia has a number of rules and policies that discourage using an IU website as a source for an entry about IU. I'm glad that you're interested and I'd be happy to chat with you about how we edit Wikipedia at IU  -- Jaireeodell (talk) 13:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


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Is the LMS-USA defunct?
The congregation of the LMS-USA's president, St. Matthew Lutheran in Indianapolis, has closed and is now a satellite location for Cornerstone Lutheran Church in Carmel, Indiana. This apparently took place around 2020, although I have not found any news sources concerning it. The congregations that were involved in the events leading up to the founding of the LMS-USA now appear to be members of the Association of American Lutheran churches, but I don't known whether they had ever actually left the AALC in the first place. The website doesn't appear to have been updated in several years. The only evidence I could find about the current status of the LMS-USA is that they were no longer listed as a member church body of the International Lutheran Council as of December 2021, which I added to the article. Does anyone have any more details? Indyguy (talk) 04:09, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


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Picture
There should be a picture on this page somewhere, perhaps above the info box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.30.125 (talk) 15:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Updated Information on Marian University
To whom it may concern,

My name is Connor Heard, and I am both a graduate and current employee of Marian University. I have never done this before, but am hoping to add some updated information on the state of the University including -Endowment Size -Graduation rate -Pell grant % -Social mobility rank -Accreditation -Other

The information I would provide can also be found at https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/marian-university-1821

Thanks! 199.8.160.2 (talk) 16:41, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

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Category:Mountains of Croatia

The mountains of Croatia.

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David Crowley (Ohio politician)

David Crowley (March 25, 1937 – January 16, 2011) was a politician from Cincinnati, Ohio who served on the Cincinnati City Council and as Vice-Mayor of the city. Crowley was elected in his first political candidacy in 2001 and was re-elected in 2003. In 2001, he came in seventh place; and in 2003, he finished ninth. (The top nine vote-getters win a seat on council.) In the 2005 city council election, Crowley finished fourth out of 32 candidates, retaining his seat.

Before winning the seat on Cincinnati City Council, Crowley had a career in management of agencies and programs providing social services, community action and capacity building in both domestic and international settings. He received a master's degree in social work from Ohio State University and a master's degree in international affairs from George Washington University. He served as executive of a national association representing the elderly.

From 1983 to 1995, Crowley directed international relief and development projects in West Africa, Nepal, Thailand, Romania, Croatia, and Bosnia. He also served as a manager in US Peace Corps in the Caribbean and Cameroon.

Death
Crowley died of cancer on January 16, 2011, in Cincinnati, aged 73. Formerly married to Kay Gilmore, he remarried, to Sherri Huss, who survived him, as did his five children: Kevin, David, Dennis, Ann and Erin.

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List of Aleutian Island volcanoes

 * Akutan Volcano
 * Amak Volcano
 * Amukta Volcano
 * Bobrof Volcano
 * Bogoslof Volcano
 * Buldir Volcano
 * Chagulak Volcano
 * Carlisle Volcano
 * Cleveland Volcano
 * Davidof Volcano
 * Gareloi Volcano
 * Great Sitkin Volcano
 * Herbert Volcano
 * Kagamil Volcano
 * Kanaga Volcano
 * Kasatochi Volcano
 * Kiska Volcano
 * Koniuji Volcano
 * Korovin Volcano
 * Little Sitkin Volcano
 * Pogromni Volcano
 * Seguam Volcano
 * Segula Volcano
 * Semisopochnoi Volcano
 * Tanaga Volcano
 * Uliaga Volcano
 * Vsevidof Volcano
 * Yunaska Volcano

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Talk:TV Martí

Initial comment
I am truly puzzled as to the exact meaning of the final paragraph.

usful sources
This from the BBC about the current scandle http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5405456.stm Hypnosadist 18:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

NPOV
"TV Martí was created by the US government to provide news and current affairs programming to Cuba."

It's pretty obvious that the US government has motives other than giving Cubans the news..

--24.80.237.107 04:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure as you know wikipedia is not about what one thinks is "pretty obvious" but instead is about citing facts from credible sources while maintaining a NPOV. --I already forgot 15:17, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

When did TV Marti start ?
The article states It began broadcasting on March 27, 1990. I think its been around longer than that. I remember (c 1987) hearing about test broadcasts from a helium baloon ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.238.24 (talk) 22:30, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal
Proposed merge is being discussed at Talk:Radio y Televisión Martí. Please do not comment here. D O N D E groovily  Talk to me  06:13, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

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Category:Mountains of Bosnia and Herzegovina

The mountains of Bosnia and Herzegovina.


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Gesualdo, Campania

Gesualdo is an Italian town in the province of Avellino, itself in the region of Campania. It is called "The city of the Prince of Musicians" in honour of Carlo Gesualdo. It has many palaces, fountains, belvederes, and a historical center, which was partially restored after the Irpinia earthquake in 1980.

The town is located in the center of Irpinia, between the valleys of the rivers Fredane and Ufita. It is about 90 km from Naples and 290 km from Rome. Surrounding municipalities are Fontanarosa, Frigento, Grottaminarda, Paternopoli, Villamaina. It is one of I Borghi più belli d'Italia ("The most beautiful villages of Italy").

Castle
The first records of the Castle of Gesualdo date to Norman rule in the 12th century.

The castle was severely damaged in the 1980 Irpinia earthquake. Restoration work has not been completed yet, but the castle has been partially open to the public since 2015.

Main sights

 * Castle of Gesualdo, founded by Lombards in the 7th century, enlarged in the 15th. It was transformed by Carlo Gesualdo in the 16th and by the Cacceses in the 19th.
 * Chiesa Madre di San Nicola (Saint Nicholas Mother Church, 12th century)
 * Chiesa del Santissimo Sacramento (Blessed Sacrament Church) (Great Chapel).
 * Chiesa del Santissimo Rosario (Most Holy Rosary Church, 17th century)
 * Chiesa di Maria Santissima Addolorata (Our Lady of Sorrows Church, 17th century)
 * Capuchin convent of Santa Maria delle Grazie, founded in the 16th century and enlarged in the 17th
 * Church of Santa Maria della Pietà (17th century)

Culture
Events in the village include:

 * Carnevale Gesualdino (Gesualdo Carnival), a parade of paperboard wagons and masked groups, held in the Carnival period
 * Volo dell'Angelo (Flight of the Angel), the secular tradition that sees a child, dressed as an angel, tied to a rope, acrossing a square at a height of more than 20 m; last Sunday of August.

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Talk:Soldiers' and Sailors' Monument

So this article is part of WikiProject Indiana, but it's a New York City-related article? I think it's time to separate this into two distinct articles, folks. -- SwissCelt 16:41, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. I also turned this article into a disambiguation page, and put the WikiProject Indiana template on Talk:Soldiers' and Sailors' Monument (Indianapolis). -- SwissCelt 17:06, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks and good work. I just changed to the American spelling of "neighborhood" because it is in reference to an American location. --Howrealisreal 02:32, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

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Matthew Maynard

Matthew Peter Maynard, (born 21 March 1966) is an English cricket coach and former cricketer. He played in four Tests and fourteen ODIs for England.

Maynard was a batsman (and, later in his career, wicketkeeper) known for his aggressive and dashing strokeplay. His first-class career with Glamorgan, saw him achieve a batting average of 42.53, take 372 catches and make seven stumpings with the gloves, earned him several caps for England, but he was never able to translate his county form into Test success. He was named a Wisden Cricketer of the Year in 1998. He was the second batsman for Glamorgan to score a century on debut in a first-class match.

Life and career
Born in Oldham, Lancashire, Maynard was brought up on the island of Anglesey in North Wales where he first joined Glamorgan. His career started in fine fashion when he hit a century on his debut in 1985, hitting three consecutive sixes to reach the 100 and he became the youngest-ever player to score 1,000 runs for the country in 1986. The 54 centuries he scored for Glamorgan during his playing career is also a record - the most any player has scored for the club. These displays of skill did not go unnoticed by the England selectors and he earned a call-up against the West Indies at the Oval in 1988. He was picked again in 1989 but then ran foul of the cricketing authorities by agreeing to go with Mike Gatting, on the controversial rebel tour of South Africa when that country had been banned from international sport because of its policy of apartheid. He later justified his decision by saying that he was desperate for a taste of international cricket having just been dropped from the England team. Nevertheless, his conduct led to a three-year Test ban, but he was eventually granted a recall for the Ashes series in 1993 after he had hit a century for Glamorgan against the Australians, but he failed to make much of an impact with the bat. He was however part of the England squad which won the Hong Kong Sixes in 1994.

Back in domestic cricket, Maynard captained Glamorgan for five seasons between 1995 and 2000. His achievement as captain included leading them to victory in the County Championship in 1997, and their first appearance since 1977 in a cup final at Lord's in 2000. That same year he earned one final recall to the England team, but only managed scores of 3 and 0 and it proved to be his last international appearance as a player.

In September 2004, he was appointed as assistant coach to the England cricket team, and announced his retirement as a player shortly after, feeling he no longer enjoyed batting. In his short spell as an international coach, he caused some controversy. His appointment was criticised by former England captain Mike Atherton, who felt that the job should not have gone to someone who had been on the rebel tour of South Africa. His attitude came under fire from former coach Keith Fletcher, who accused him of being too fond of drinking and partying, to be a role model for young international cricketers. He hit back at Fletcher, criticising his management skills. Maynard continued to coach the England side and at one point drafted in professional lyricists to help him compose an England team song.

After Duncan Fletcher's resignation following the 2007 Cricket World Cup, Maynard was replaced as England assistant coach in May 2007 by Andy Flower. In an interview following the announcement, Maynard said he had been offered a role with the Indian cricket academy.

He previously coached the Nashua Titans, one of the six South African domestic cricket franchises. He has enjoyed an extremely successful first season, winning the domestic four-day competition (Supersport Series) as well as the domestic T20 competition (MiWay T20 Challenge).

At the end of the 2014 season, following the departure of David Nosworthy, Maynard was appointed the Director of Cricket at Somerset County Cricket Club. After three seasons at the club Maynard left his role as coach of Somerset after the end of the 2017 season.

He was awarded the MBE in the 2019 New Year Honours.

His son Tom was found dead on 18 June 2012.

Contemporary usage
Maynard was mentioned in the Manic Street Preachers' "Mr. Carbohydrate", the B-side of A Design for Life, with the lyric, "Have you heard of Matthew Maynard/He's my favourite cricketer/I would rather watch him play than pick up my guitar".

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User:Jon jones

Jon Jones painter based in Birmingham UK, exhibited at the National Portrait Gallery, Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery as well as many independent gallerys both here and abroad.

Painted the artwork for Misty's Big Adventure new album the 'Black Hole' and their next single 'The Story of Love'.

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Talk:University of Indianapolis

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University Seal
Is there any particular reason why the University Seal pictured in the infobox is the one for the Athens campus instead of the one for the main campus? Indyguy (talk) 21:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

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Firehouse Five Plus Two

The Firehouse Five Plus Two was a Dixieland jazz band, popular in the 1950s, consisting of members of the Disney animation department. Leader and trombonist Ward Kimball was inspired to form the band after spending time with members of the Disney animation and sound department and finding that they had a lot in common as jazz aficionados. The lunchtime chats escalated into a full on lunchtime jam session as Kimball, an amateur trombonist, and animator Frank Thomas, a pianist, would find they "sounded pretty good all by ourselves." The band went by two names, the Huggajeedy Eight and the San Gabriel Valley Blue Blowers. The "Firehouse" motif came from a 1916 American LaFrance fire engine that Kimball restored for the local Horseless Carriage Club, and the "Plus Two" was from the fact the band had seven people.

The band was also formative in creating the Good Time Jazz label under fellow aficionado Lester Koenig, who managed all the band's releases from 1940's The Firehouse Five Plus Two Story, Volume 1 to 1970's Live at Earthquake McGoon's. Walt Disney was approving of the band, letting them play at the company's Christmas parties, at Disneyland, and other social functions, on the single condition that they never fully leave their jobs at the studio.

Members
The formative members of the band, as listed in the liner notes for The Firehouse Five Plus Two Story.
 * Danny Alguire — (Cornet), fingerprint expert formerly with L.A. police department, assistant director at Disney. (1949-1952; 1954-1972; 1980)
 * Harper Goff —(Banjo), illustrator at Warner Brothers and Colliers Magazine, Disney designer and Imagineer. (1949-1952; 1954-1956; 1980)
 * Ward Kimball — (Trombone, siren, tambourine, sound effects, washboard, leader), lead animator and director for Walt Disney Animation and Disney Studios. (1949-1952; 1954-1972; 1980)
 * Clarke Mallery — (Clarinet), animator for Superman and Aquaman cartoons of the 1960s. (1949-1952)
 * Monte Mountjoy — (Drums), formerly with Bob Wills. (1949-1952)
 * Erdman (Ed) Penner — (Soprano saxophone, bass saxophone on early recordings, later switched to tuba), story man for Walt Disney Animation, died in 1956. (1949-1952; 1954-1956)
 * Frank Thomas — Piano, lead animator for Walt Disney Animation. (1949-1952; 1954-1965; 1980)

Later, other Disney artists and professional jazz musicians joined in:
 * George Bruns - Tuba and trombone, substituting for Kimball, composer for many Disney animated and live action films. (1956-1966)
 * Eddie Forrest - Drummer for the Disney Studios Orchestra and the Hollywood Bowl Orchestra. (1955-1972; 1980)
 * Don Kinch - Tuba, substituting for Ed Penner following his death. (1960-1972)
 * Jimmy MacDonald - Drums, Voice Actor, Foley artist and head of Disney sound department. (1949; 1954-1955)
 * George Probert - Clarinet, and soprano sax, former assistant director at Disney. (1954-1972; 1980)
 * Dick Roberts - Banjo, leader of the Banjo Kings. (1960-1966)

Timeline

Discography
In addition to many singles, the band recorded at least thirteen LP records, starting in 1949. The last album, Live at Earthquake McGoon's, was recorded in 1970 in San Francisco. They have subsequently been re-released on CD and remain available. (* also released as a 4-record album)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Story*, Part One (1951)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Story*, Part Two (1951)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Story*, Part Three (1952)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Story*, Part Four (1952)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Plays for Lovers (1956)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two, Volume Five: Goes South! (1956)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Goes To Sea (1957)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Dixieland Favorites (1960)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Crashes a Party (1960)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Around the World (1961)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two At Disneyland (1962)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Goes To a Fire (1964)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Twenty Years Later (1970)
 * The Firehouse Five Plus Two Live at Earthquake McGoon's (1970)

In popular culture
In early Pogo comic strips, former Disney animator Walt Kelly featured a band called "The Firehouse Five Glee and Pilau Society". One 1950 Sunday strip featured a caricature of Ward Kimball as "Kimbo Cat".

In 1977, comedian Ray Stevens recorded a "chicken clucking" version of Glenn Miller's "In the Mood" under the name "Henhouse Five Plus Too".

Televised/film appearances
The band appeared in several Disney television specials, including their first special in 1950, One Hour In Wonderland. They also appeared on the early Mickey Mouse Club television shows and appeared in animated form in the 1953 Goofy animated short, "How to Dance".

The band also received an homage in the direct-to-video 1999 Disney movie Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas, where a band composed of actual firefighters played a jazzy rendition of "Jingle Bells" to help with a toy drive along with Mickey in "The Gift of the Magi" segment.

The band received an homage in the ending of the 2009 Disney film The Princess and the Frog, with the jazz-playing alligator Louis now belonging to a group called "The Firefly Five Plus Lou". A caricature of Frank Thomas is seen playing the piano.

Besides appearing in Disney productions, the band also appeared with Teresa Brewer in the 1951 Universal short "Teresa Brewer and the Firehouse Five Plus Two" and appeared as themselves in the 1951 Kathryn Grayson film, Grounds for Marriage. The Firehouse Five Plus Two also appeared on A Merry Christmas with Bing Crosby and the Andrews Sisters on February 22, 1950, sponsored by Chesterfield cigarettes.

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Your Life in Their Hands

Your Life in Their Hands is a long-running BBC TV documentary series on the subject of surgery, examining surgical practice from the point of view of both surgeons and patients. Its first run was produced by Bill Duncalf and Mary Adams, consisted of five seasons (1958 to 1964) and was presented by Dr. Charles Fletcher. An early 1970s revival (the first in colour) was presented by Jonathan Miller, and another revival, lasting from 1979 to 1987, was presented by Robert Winston on BBC One. The series was revived again in 1991 for five editions, this time narrated by Andrew Sachs on BBC Two and again in 2004 and 2005 on BBC One with Barbara Flynn as narrator.

Series 1
The first series was broadcast on 9.30pm Tuesdays between 11 February and 15 April 1958, consisting of 10 half-hour episodes. It began production with the working title 'Eye on Medicine'. The host, Dr. Charles Fletcher, would introduce each episode from Hammersmith Hospital, handing over to the local team in the featured location. Though well-received in the mainstream media, the doctors association, BMA decried the publicisation of pathology and surgical treatments. Average viewing figures were 8.25 million.

 * 1) Breath of life - Respiratory paralysis, poliomyelitis - Churchill Hospital, Oxford
 * 2) Ray of hope - cancer and radiotherapy - Christie Hospital and Holt Radium Institute, Manchester
 * 3) A new lease of life - rheumatic fever, mitral stenosis/valvotomy - Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Birmingham
 * 4) Out on a limb - GP hospital - Cottage Hospital, Bude, Cornwall
 * 5) Thought is the seed of action - head injury - Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh
 * 6) The Ever-Lessening Shadow - TB - Sully Hospital, Cardiff
 * 7) Diverting the Stream - Liver cirrhosis - Bristol Royal Infirmary
 * 8) The Fires of Life - Thyroid diseases - Western Infirmary, Glasgow
 * 9) Machinery for Living - Artificial kidney, heart/lung machine - General Infirmary, Leeds
 * 10) Looking to the Future - Chronic bronchitis, pneumoconiosis - Llandough Hospital, Penarth

Series 2
This contained six episodes from London hospitals between February and March 1961.

 * Gall stones - Charing Cross Hospital

Series 3
8 episodes in 1962.

Series 4
1963

Depression - St. Thomas' Hospital, London.

2004 edition
3 episodes 1. Neurosurgery - featuring surgeon Henry Marsh. (First broadcast 08/03/2004) 2. Liver transplant - featuring surgeon Nigel Heaton. (First broadcast 15/03/2004) 3. Cardiac surgery - featuring surgeon Stephen Westaby. (First broadcast 22/03/2004)

2005 edition
1. Neurosurgery - featuring surgeon Christopher Chandler. (First broadcast 27/07/2005) 2. Spinal surgery - featuring surgeon John Hutchinson. (First broadcast 03/08/2005) 3. GI surgery - featuring surgeon Michael Griffin. (First broadcast 11/08/2005)

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Craighead Caverns

Craighead Caverns is an extensive cave system located in between Sweetwater and Madisonville, Tennessee. It is best known for containing the United States' largest and the world's second largest non-subglacial underground lake, The Lost Sea. In addition to the lake, the caverns contain an abundance of crystal clusters called anthodites, stalactites, stalagmites, and a waterfall.

History
Located in the foothills of the Great Smoky Mountains, the caverns are named after their former owner, a Cherokee Native American, Chief Craighead. The caverns were used by the Cherokee as a meeting place for their councils.

During the American Civil War, the caves were mined by Confederate soldiers for saltpeter, a commodity necessary to the manufacture of gunpowder. The major cave and lake area was also used as a hideout for moonshiners, especially during the Prohibition era.

In 1939, explorers found the fossilized remains of a Pleistocene jaguar. The persons who made the discovery were cave guides Jack Kyker and Clarence Hicks, who were exploring in the cave during their off hours. They reported their find to Dr. W. J. Cameron and W. E. Michael of Sweetwater, who then owned the cave.

The owners submitted the bones to the American Museum of Natural History in New York City, where they were identified as bones of a very large jaguar and an elk fawn. George Gaylord Simpson, a vertebrate paleontologist at the museum, subsequently visited Craighead Caverns in May 1940. During his visit, he recovered additional jaguar bones and made casts of several jaguar footprints in the mud floor of the cave. His excavation and findings are reported in American Museum Novitates, No. 1131 (August 6, 1941) on pages 1–12. The report includes photographs of the bones and footprints. Simpson referred the fossils to the large Panthera onca augusta, at that time the remains from Craighead Caverns were some of the best known of the subspecies.

A mushroom farm was operated in the cave from 1939 to 1940. The manure for this operation was supplied from Fort Oglethorpe, where many horses were stabled. The mushroom beds were located in the Big Room, a few hundred feet northeast of the historic entrance. In 1947, a wooden dance floor was built in this same area of the cave, and a nightclub, known as the "Cavern Tavern", was operated there.

Craighead Caverns was added to the National Park Service list of National Natural Landmarks in 1974.

The Lost Sea
The lake was discovered in 1905 by a thirteen-year-old boy named Ben Sands. He was said to often play in the cave and, when he happened upon a small opening, crawled through. The room was so large he was unable to see the ends of the space with his lantern, so he threw balls of mud in all directions and heard splashes. When he went back home and told people of his discovery, they were hesitant to believe him. By the time Ben convinced his father to go back down with him to explore further, the water level had risen, hiding the cave entrance from them. It was rediscovered several years later by local explorers.

The visible surface of the lake measures 800 ft long and 220 ft wide (4.5 acre) at normal "full" capacity. Cave divers have explored several rooms that are completely filled with water, without reaching the end of the cave. This exploration was conducted in the 1970s.

For many years The Lost Sea was considered the world's largest underground lake; it is the largest in the United States and is still recognized as the world's second-largest, non-subglacial underground lake, after Dragon's Breath Cave, in Namibia.

Commercial boat tours of the lake are still given and for many people are the highlight of the cave tour. In times of extreme drought (such as 2007–08), the lake recedes significantly. Tour management had to extend the walkway and the boat dock in order to continue the boat tours. At the height of the drought, management of the Lost Sea said that the water level in the lake dropped 28 feet below its normal level. At such times visitors see a much larger cavern above the lake surface.

The sea was featured on CBS's America Wonders series.

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Talk:List of major power outages

Previous discussions without headers
Please, do not list minor blackouts affecting only a few thousand people unless thay are otherwise notable. Billhpike 15:07, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

I specifically recall a 1966 blackout (in or about October) of the PJM system that disrupted power starting about 10 am in MD, NJ, DE, and PA on a weekday. That would have been a few million people affected. Unfortunately I cannot locate references to this event.

Table
Does anyone think it would be nice to organize this into a table. I thought I might give it a try. --CoolGuy 05:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I think this is a good idea and would be an advantage. Angerdan (talk) 11:32, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Unbalanced
This list is unbalanced. At least 1/3 is 2006 events and no events before the 60s are mentioned. Too much vividness here. --Jambalaya 15:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Maybe the article needs a minimum number of affected customers in order to be considered notable enough for inclusion in this article. And/or number of days they were affected.  Otherwise there's a lot of chaff.  Tempshill 06:11, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

 * A minimum number of people or a certain % of a country's population perhaps? For instance if the power were to go out in the whole of Luxembourg or even someone like Monaco it would still be a big event, even if it is only a small country in terms of population. Cls14 18:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

 * This has not got any better. The events listed are haphazard and most of the work on the page seems to be deleting those that don't meet the cut.  I was thinking of adding the recent Havana black out and noticed that the Hurricane Isaac blackouts are not listed.  I don't know if this page is really worth having if it is not going to be at least kept up with current events, much less the pre-2006 missed events. Autkm (talk) 23:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Split into sections for each continent
Hum! This article needs a big clean-up and/or re-arrangement. I would suggest to separate this list into sections for each continent (probably with a table to make it more good-looking. Maybe it the long range we could throw separate articles for each continent if more events from the past adds up.--JForget 01:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Solid criteria for inclusion
I think what is needed is a solid set of criteria that entries need to conform to. Not every outage is notable, so we need a solid, well defined test for significance. To start us off:

 * 1. The outage must not be planned by the service provider.
 * 2. The outage must affect at least 1,000 people AND last at least one hour.
 * 3. There must be at least 1,000,000 person hours of disruption.

A person hour of disruption would be the number of people multiplied by the length of the disruption in hours. The longer the disruption, the fewer people it needs to affect to become significant. The shorter the disruption the more an outage needs. Nailedtooth (talk) 22:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Too many
Are we intending to list every single blackout? We had no power where I live for about 4 hours last Saturday, should I add it to the list? 65.121.141.34 (talk) 16:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Missing Outages
There were two major outages that affected the western united states in 1996, not just the one shown in August. The first was in July. Both have been widely reported in the internet. See for instance http://www.cc.state.az.us/divisions/administration/news/96-1111.htm

I recall a major outage in the western united states in the early 1980's, but I couldn't find any cites on the internet. During a December storm (as I recall), a transmission tower in PG&E's service area (Northern California) collapsed under wind load and took out to lines on the Pacific Intertie. There was a several hour power outage affecting perhaps 20% of Southern California (Disneyland was evacuated) and scattered power outages occured as far away as Phoenix. Perhaps someone has details to corroborate my recollection.

192.212.253.17 (talk) 23:00, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

I was looking for the same December 1982 event and found a lot of false positives. The transmission tower was near Tracy, California. I found this: http://cnls.lanl.gov/~chertkov/SmarterGrids/Talks/Tate.pdf which contains the following "December 22, 1982 Blackout: Volume and format of raw data made it hard to gauge the extent of a disturbance and determine the corrective action to take (12,350 MW, 5 million people)"

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/ferc/uscanrpt40504ch7-10.pdf (This is from a document prepared by a joint collaboration between the US Department of Energy and the Canadian Ministry of Natural Resources.   I do not believe the US Government copyrights such reports.) December 22, 1982: West Coast Blackout. This disturbance resulted in the loss of 12,350 MW of load and affected over 5 million people in the West. The outage began when high winds caused the failure of a 500-kV transmission tower. The tower fell into a parallel 500-kV line tower, and both lines were lost. The failure of these two lines mechanically cascaded and caused three additional towers to fail on each line. When the line conductors fell they contacted two 230-kV lines crossing under the 500-kV rights-of-way, collapsing the 230-kV lines. There is more in the pdf. The rest of the chapters are linked here:  http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/documents/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.219.153.75 (talk) 23:29, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Added December 22, 1982 West Coast Outage. Qwy47 (talk) 06:23, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Current California Outage/Storm/Crisis (January 2010)
Where is the info about this? Radical Mallard (talk) 21:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Removed the Waltham Outtage
I removed the Waltham, Massachusetts outtage as it did not meet the criteria. Waltham, Massachusetts has a population of 59,226 and the outtage lasted less than one hour and 45 minutes while effecting a few streets of the city. Assuming that the three streets listed contained all of the city's population (they don't) then the man hours of power lost would be 103,645... about ten percent of the required amount. Danpenning (talk) 20:24, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Removed 2010 Entries
I've removed the May 24th (Provo, Utah) and July 4th (Northern Ireland) outages.

The Provo one lasted roughly 1hr 45min, according to this site, which means that it would have had to have affected 1,000,000 people to be noteworthy. That link and the article linked in the original entry make it clear that only parts of Provo (approx pop. 500,000), meaning that it fails to meet the criteria.

The Northern Ireland one is a bit harder to quantify, as I can't find exact numbers. However, [the BBC link] is from the morning of the 5th and notes that power was restored by that point (and, in most locations, had been restored that same day), well below the likely threshold needed to reach the 1,000,000 customer hours. (Speaking of which: does anyone have more information on the earlier NI entry? The link provided gives no information about the length of the power disruption.) -- g026r (talk) 04:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Toronto July 5, 2010 doesn't quite make it
The Globe and Mail says the fire started at 4:40 PM and power was restored everywhere by 8:30, so just under 4 hours. Only some people were affected for as long as 4 hours. The Globe and Mail says up to 250,000 people affected. This barely makes the cut-off; it's not encyclopediac to record every time the lights flicker. True, it's embarrsasign to have an outage with the Queen in town, but at least she didn't get stranded in the middle of the river like the previous visit to Winnipeg. --Wtshymanski (talk) 21:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

DC outages 2011 from January 26th storm
I lost power for 3 days after 8 inches of snow in Rockville Maryland. My house went down to 48 degrees. I have pepco. Why isn't this on the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.128.150 (talk) 21:21, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

this is power cuts love wrong place — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.51.238 (talk) 03:16, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Hampton Roads Power outage of March 24th
There was a super storm that hit the south east VA area on the 24th and knocked out power to more than 172, 000 people and it took the power company 3 days to restore power. Would that be a good thing to add to the list? Here is the story about the storm. --Akemi Loli Mokoto (talk) 13:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Almost 200k sounds like a lot of people, I think it's worth adding. AweCo (talk) 23:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

June 5, 1967
There was a power outage in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Maryland that lasted ten hours. It spilled over into New York City, as well. I believe it belongs on the list. ghh 19:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by George H. Harvey (talk • contribs)

Unreferenced
Some entries have been unreferenced for 4 years - and some entries no longer meet the arbitrary 10000000 customer-hours cutoff. I have removed these if they didn't link to a main article about that particular outage. --Wtshymanski (talk) 14:43, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the 2012 Mid-Atlantic outage, some reports state "up to 4 million households." Using Virginia statistics to calculate, that translates to 10.2 Million people. Someone might want to look into this discrepancy... Foxpoet (talk) 19:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Removed Flathead County, MT June 26, 2012
Article is unreferenced. A search of news websites, even local MT do not show it despite blackouts affecting 5000 people being reported. Flathead County had a 2010 Census population of 90,000 and the comment in this article indicates parts of Flathead County were affected. Even if all 90,000 were blacked out for the entire 9 hours, this does not meet the million threshold. Autkm (talk) 18:16, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Reconsider Criteria
I think we should reconsider the criteria listed for a power outage's inclusion in this list, for several reasons. First, the inclusion of a list of arbitrary criteria is unencylopedic; basically, we have Wikipedia conducting synthesis on what is considered a "power outage." Possibly, the article should be moved to "List of major power outages," and we should start using a standard of such power outages published by a government agency or major utility company. Second, it seems to me that the criteria listed are inadequate, because they preclude inclusion of yesterday's Super Bowl XLVII power outage, which was only half an hour long but affected over a hundred million people (in the US alone) who were watching the game. It seems clear to me that the circumstances result in this relatively short-duration and small-area power outage actually being a highly significant, noteworthy, and memorable power outage; we should be going by what power outages reliable sources consider notable, rather than our own arbitrary standard. Probably, we should not include any power outages that were not covered beyond local news, while any power outage covered by non-local sources, regardless of smallness of immediate effect, should be considered a candidate for inclusion. --DavidK93 (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

 * You bring a good point in mentioning the Superbowl outage. While I think having criteria is a good idea, they are there to prevent insignificant events from crowding the page, not to prevent significant events from being on it. In other words, they are there to create a defined standard of notability an event must meet or surpass. If an event does not meet the criteria, but is otherwise overwhelmingly notable, it should be included. Perhaps the criteria could be amended to make exceptions for highly notable events that do not otherwise meet the minimum standards. In any case, I support the Superbowl power outage being in this page. Nailedtooth (talk) 00:27, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

 * who commented above. It would seem that a short outage, that affects so many may well be worthy of inclusion, particularly if it hasn't happened before. There is quite decent coverag of it at Super Bowl XLVII. It could be mentioned briefly here with a "See Main page" hatnote.
 * I see we have criteria, but there appears to have been little discussion. Were these criteria arbitrarily decided/suggested by someone, and then accepted as consensus because no one objected? Naturally I am raising this because I was without power for nearly 6 hours today In the Sutherland Shire in Sydney, Australia. 40, 000 homes and business were affected for nearly 6 hours.This is, I think highly unusual, at least the longest outage I can remember in the last 25 years. It has also resulted in pollution to Port Botany, as untreated sewage flowed from a treatment plant for 2 hours.
 * Sources:
 * Power outage plunges Sutherland Shire into darkness 9news.com.au
 * Swimmers warned after sewage released into Botany Bay during power outage abc.net.au
 * Notable enough? Discuss! 220  of  Borg 11:00, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 12:06, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

List of power outages → List of major power outages – This list does not include smaller power outages and explicitly states a minimum "size" of a power outage to be includable. So the new name would make more sense and would be clearer to editors about the intent of the article. CodeCat (talk) 17:49, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Comment I think the list should be restricted to notable outages, like most other lists are restricted to notable ones. Some larger outages are not notable, so can be trimmed off the list. Each entry in the list should meet some notability threshold. Some smaller electrical outages are more notable that many large ones. If the restriction change is made, then no rename is needed. For example, a power outage for 1 hour at a nuclear powerplant that only affects 100 plant workers is significantly more notable than the standard outage, since it could result in a nuclear meltdown. -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 00:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I still prefer "major" in the title because "notable" is ambiguous and vague. It can be defined when something is major, but how do you define notability? You can't, and that's one of the reasons why I think it's a bad criterium in general. It basically prevents editors from making any kind of informed decision about content and instead puts it at the mercy of anyone who disputes the notability of one thing or another. CodeCat (talk) 02:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Support move to either List of major power outages or List of notable power outage. The lede states This is a list of notable wide-scale power outages so notable would seem perfectly acceptable. Zarcadia (talk) 20:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * We should avoid a name like the latter while other alternatives are available. See WP:LIST. --BDD (talk) 18:07, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
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South Australia 2016 Failure.
It's in all the media - even being twisted by CC Deniers that it was the Wind Power Gen that caused it, denying that about 30 towers down and 80,000 strikes blacked out about 1 million for about 24 + hours .... :-) 60.242.247.177 (talk) 13:35, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Many reports, this is just the latest http://reneweconomy.com.au/s-a-blackouts-dud-forecasts-lousy-software-failing-gas-plants-46047/

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February 25 2017, Scranton storm
Moved from article page. Only citation I could find listed "thousands" without power, not 285,000. Stono rebellion (talk) 08:01, 26 August 2018 (UTC) On February 25, convective winds of 110 mph (180 km/h) from a severe storm struck near Scranton, Pennsylvania in the United States[158] and caused 285,000 to go without electricity for at least 3 days.

Reverted Edits?
There were recently a couple of major outages in the United States. I note had initially added them, with this:

Between July 19th and July 23rd, large systems of thunderstorms moved through the Great Lakes and Mid-Atlantic regions of the USA, causing over 2.7 million electric customers to loss power, effecting over 6 million people.

However, that was almost immediately reverted by without any comment and as a 'minor' edit. Can we get clarification as to why such significant power outages are being removed?

 * Thanks, I agree! also reverted a change I made on another page Hurricane Michael, only saying "Ths isn't an rs" without explaining why he feels that way, I tried started a discussion over there and have not heard anything back yet. Jason Bluefire (talk) 17:42, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

 * I'm new here, so I'm guessing, but maybe the 'rs' is an abbreviation for "reliable source"? I actually tried to revert to your edit, but it said it had to be done manually, and I figured I'd check here in talk first. So, if you're game, maybe try putting your edit again, but quote some of the major papers/networks coverage, instead of using poweroutage.us? Cheers. ;)
 * RS does indeed mean reliable source and your repeated URL addition is not a reliable source. Please stop adding it. Praxidicae (talk) 21:43, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Why do you feel like it is not a reliable source? Poweroutage.us is used by almost every major news network in the United States to source power outage information for major events. It is a primary source, WP:USEPRIMARY Jason Bluefire (talk) 03:52, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
 * - Thank you for clarifying. I'm somewhat taken back by your methodology, though. Why zoink a contribution, instead of just putting in a proper source? This page is outdated: There have been more than a few very notable outages. If you're a contributor to this page, then why not give an example of proper sourcing? If you're not a contributor, then just blanket removing an edit seems unproductive, as well as a way to discourage people who would like to get involved with Wikipedia from doing so. I'm not very good with writing, but I'll add entries if need be. There should be at the very least the Great Lakes and now New Jersey. Both have affected hundreds of thousands of people.  The outage in New York last weekend may also qualify.  Here are some sources:
 * Utility crews again worked though the night and by early Thursday morning, the power outages have dwindled to several thousand homes and businesses after 360,000 were left in the dark from the fierce storms on Monday night.
 * New Jersey / July 22nd - July 25th

 * After two rounds of severe thunderstorms this weekend knocked out electricity to more than 800,000 across Michigan, some people won’t see their power restored until sometime Wednesday, utility officials said late Sunday.

 * As of Sunday afternoon, about 350,000 DTE customers remained without power, largely in the Southeast Michigan area. At one point in the immediate aftermath of Friday night and Saturday’s storms, nearly 600,000 DTE customers lost power.

 * Consumers Energy had about 67,000 homes and businesses still without power tonight, compared to the 220,000 of its customers affected overall
 * Michigan / July 19 - July 25th (?)

 * Between WPS in central and Northeast Wisconsin, and We Energies in the Fox Valley, the companies say they have restored power to more than 277,000 customers since violent storms hit last Friday and Saturday.
 * Wisconsin / July 19 - projected July 26th

 * The Michigan and Wisconsin outages actually are different areas from the same storm, which is why I believe just grouped them together under the Great Lakes. Perhaps you or someone else can help place these notable outages in the page and nurture instead of squashing enthusiasm to contribute. :)

Without any apparent further response or guidance forthcoming from, I'll go ahead and add these outages myself. If any actual editors are still involved in this, please feel free to clean them up. I'm still rather befuddled why 's initial edit (using a very well known source) was removed instead of being fixed, given these outages are very well documented.

Longest?
This section heading is misleading. Surely when someone sees it they're going to expect results measured in real time rather than "customer hours". (Analogy: Just because there were more people around to experience it, was last Christmas Day longer than the one in 1919? Of course not!) Best fix for this would be to have incidents ranked by how long they *actually* lasted. (By all means, retain the existing info in this or its own section.) Alternatively, rename the section to be more descriptive of what it actually contains. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:961C:1F00:3457:DCB4:2142:64C5 (talk) 13:32, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

To me this just suggests and additional "Elapsed Duration" column for the table. Although that implies that you have to determine where to source that number. SomeIOTSecGuy (talk) 18:14, 21 June 2019 (UTC) SomeIoTSecGuy

Adding (approximate) figures for person-hours of disruption in the table?
The criteria for inclusion include the following: “There must be at least 1,000,000 person-hours of disruption.”

Given one of the four conditions is specified in person-hours, would it not make sense for us to include (approximate) figures for person-hours of disruption in the table? My thinking is that this could help to give readers a better sense of the overall impact of the events listed, as well as another way to rank the disruption caused (if desired).

Let me know what you all think. Qofif (talk) 13:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

August 9 2019 England and Wales
This paragraph, which is about major blackouts in parts of England and Wales, mostly references one source, but uses the same source excessively in inline citations. Could we possibly cite the source just once at the end of the paragraph to reduce clutter?

Scotty2083 (talk) 02:37, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Does Memphis, August 1978 meet criteria
I'm not sure what numbers to look for to see if this event meets the criteria. Sorta cool it was caused by one security guard wandering in and flipping a switch.

https://www.google.com/search?q=August+of+1978%2C+memphis+blackout+

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War finance

War finance is a branch of defense economics. The power of a military depends on its economic base and without this financial support, soldiers will not be paid, weapons and equipment cannot be manufactured and food cannot be bought. Hence, victory in war involves not only success on the battlefield but also the economic power and economic stability of a state. War finance covers a wide variety of financial measures including fiscal and monetary initiatives used in order to fund the costly expenditure of a war.

War finance measures can be broadly classified into three main categories:

 * levy of taxation
 * raising of debts - borrowing
 * creation of fresh money supply - inflation

Thus these measures may include levy of specific taxation, increase and enlarging the scope of existing taxation, raising of compulsory and voluntary loans from the public, arranging loans from foreign sovereign states or financial institutions, and also the creation of money by the government or the central banking authority.

Throughout the history of human civilization, from ancient times until the modern era, conflicts and wars have always involved the raising of resources and war finance has since remained, in some form or the other, a major part of any defense economy plan. For example, economics played a key role in the Roman Empire. The brutal wars between the Roman empire and the Carthage proved to be very costly so much that Rome even ran out of money altogether at one stage. The Roman economy during this period were a pre-industrial economy which meant the majority of workers up to 80% of them were involved in the area of agriculture. Virtually all the taxes that would be collected by the government were spent on the military operations which turned out to be about also 80% of the entire budget in c. 150. Due to the huge financial burden that the maintenance of the military operations would have on the economy, techniques were thought up to help solve the burden. One such technique was the process of debasing the coinage. This was used in many countries that used coins from precious metals and they would debase the coins. This however didn't last very long as inflation started to increase. Various governments in charge attempted to curb the high cost of inflation through new reforms but some of their attempts just got steadily worse with the increasing bureaucracy that the government had to maintain as well as the huge amounts spent on welfare payments to the growing population worse.

Loot and plunder - or at least the prospect of such - may play a role in war economies. This involves the taking of goods by force as part of a military or political victory and was used as a significant source of a revenue for the victorious state. During the first World War when the Germans occupied the Belgians, the Belgian factories were forced to produce goods for the German effort or dismantled their machinery and took it back to Germany – along with thousands and thousands of Belgian slave factory workers.

Taxation
Taxation can be one of the more politically contentious ways to finance war. Raising taxes is often domestically unpopular, as people know that higher taxes reduce their individual abilities to invest and consume. As a consequence, raising taxes on a tax-averse population in order to fund a war might result in widespread anti-war sentiment. Moreover, taxes confiscate a part of the labor and the capital of the population. During World War I, the United States and Great Britain each financed one quarter of their war costs via increased taxation, while in Austria the contribution of taxation towards the expenditure was zero. [3] The British government felt that they were an exception to this general rule and they saw their wealth and financial stability as one of their strongest warfighting assets. The income tax was therefore increased from 5.8% in 1913 to just over 30% in 5 years in 1918. The threshold was reduced in order for millions more people to be liable to pay the income tax.

Borrowing
For the government another solution to finance war is for the government to increase its debt. When the Great War began, the majority of countries assumed that the war would be short especially in the eyes of the most powerful ally countries United States, Great Britain and France. They saw no need to raise taxes as it would have been politically difficult. It turned out however that it came at an extraordinary financial expense and as such thought it was best to pay for it by borrowing money and could thus transfer the war costs to future generations. The government can issue bonds that are bought by creditors, usually the Central Banks. The sacrifices are as a result differed, the government would need in the future to pay it back with some interests. There are many examples in war history, referred to as War bond. The economic consequences of this method of finance is less direct for the population, but equally important. The interests paid can be seen as pure wealth redistribution. Moreover, an accumulation of debt, which is too important, can affect the economy of a country, through its ability of refunding its debt. It can alter the confidence of people in the country's economy. The war bonds were debt securities that would be issued by the government to finance the military operations and defense mechanisms during the time of a war. In practice, war can be financed through the creation of a fresh money supply adding additional money to the financial system and the function of these bonds were to help to control the increase of inflation and to keep it stable. The United States government during World War 1 spent over $300 million which converts to over $4 billion in today's financial market. People would then buy these bonds which looked like stamps for 10 or 15 cents each from the government and the government promised to return them with an interest after a period of 10 years or more. During a war especially during World War 1, governments needed all the extra money they could get their hands on to help pay for the war equipment and supplies. The advertisement of these bonds were carried out through many media outlets and through propaganda materials on radio, cinema adverts and newspapers in order to convince the large multitude of the countries population.

Inflation
The government can also use a monetary tool to finance war, it could print more money in order to pay for troops, military complex and arms. But inflation is created, which reduces the purchasing power of people and can be thus seen as a form of taxation. However, it distributes the war costs in an arbitrary manner, especially on people with fixed incomes. At some point, such inflation could even reduce the production level of a country. During the great war, countries decided to turn on the printing presses with almost every country abandoning the gold standard in 1914 and started to inflate their individual currencies by printing more banknotes. E.g., in Britain money supply was multiplied by almost 1151% and 1141% in Germany. Much of the extra money supply was absorbed by the war loans fortunate for the western countries while rationing out the controlled prices.

Borrowing vs. Taxing
When a conflict leads to higher governmental expenditures, the population financing the war is either paying directly (and immediately) or indirectly (and maybe delayed). Hence, war finance is can be divided into two categories: Direct or indirect financing. The former comprises taxes through which the population bears directly the burden, the latter includes borrowing or increasing the money supply. Empirical studies have established a connection between a leader's tax policy and subsequent punitive electoral consequences as they represent a permanent transfer of purchasing power by the taxpayer to the government.

From a political perspective, borrowing is a more convenient way to finance wars because it can minimize the potential electoral consequences. Levying higher tax rates has an immediate effect on the population, whereas borrowing goes along with delayed repercussions. The advantage of borrowing is that it likely transfers the financial burden to a future government and consequently does not affect the current leader's prospects of a potential re-election. Second, borrowing itself is an accepted tool for the state to carry out its duties such as exerting expansive fiscal policies. That means because borrowing affects people only indirectly and is an accepted measure in general, it makes war a more diffuse target for critics, because it will be just one of the government's numerous debt sources. Of course, borrowing contributes to the increase of debt that causes also contentious debates. But particularly in the case of the United States, it can be observed that the hazard of a government shutdown is politically an undesirable outcome, even for the opposition. Having no alternatives, the Congress invariably passes legislation to increase the debt ceiling. This certainty guarantees that borrowing minimalizes any political costs.

To conclude, wartime borrowing is politically advantageous relative to war taxation: It is just an - although often a significant one - additional source of debt, which blurs the traces of the initiator as the ultimate repayment takes place long after the leader who started the war has stepped down. These characteristics reduce the political costs for the current leader and causes borrowing to generally be more attractive and politically viable than introduction of war taxes.

History of different perspectives on War finance in the US
Financing a war requires the government to seek for additional revenue sources because government expenditures increase significantly during war or when a war is about to break out. The consequences of policies that focus to secure enough income sources have tremendous impact on the economy and often go even beyond the war itself. The determinants of how to provide financial funds are therefore driven by political interests giving different parties the opportunity to conceptualize and secure certain fiscal interests of their core constituencies. In the United States, the Republicans and their predecessors - the Whigs and Federalists - favoured to impose taxes, when the taxation was introduced as an ad valorem tariff or excise tax. These tax modes favoured manufacturing and business interests, the Republican base.

The Democrats, however, traditionally tended to abstain from taxes because their support came from the South, a strong exporting region that would suffer from tariffs and excise taxes. With the constitutionality of income taxes in 1913, the Democrats advocated a progressive income tax due to the important role of labour in their political base. With the business sector being its main political base, the Republicans opposed higher income taxes, rather favouring less fiscal policy, including on war taxation. The high repercussions and redistribution effects of taxes lead to various political interests. Thus, different lobby groups formed trying to have determining influence on the tax mode, when political leaders tried to generate revenues from taxing or other alternatives.

Case Study: War costs of Afghanistan and Iraq
Not surprisingly, instrumental politicians tend to avoid war taxes, especially when the reasonableness of a war is publicly challenged or when the real cost of a war a difficult to calculate. This was also confirmed in the case of the Afghanistan (2001) and Iraq (2003) war. Both wars were financed through heavy borrowing. In 2003, the Bush-Administration reckoning with a fast conquering expedition estimated the cost of the Iraq war at $50 billion to $60 billion. This turned out to be a severe miscalculation, when it became clear that the conquering of Iraq was much more complicated and that stability of Iraq required a long-term engagement of the US military. Three years later, in February 2006, a working paper authored by economists Linda Bilmes and Joseph Stiglitz already believed the true cost to be more than one trillion dollars, taking a conservative approach and supposing a troop withdrawal by 2010, not even including costs borne by other countries. A subsequent paper, published in March 2013, figured that the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts will be at least $4 trillion. However, taking into consideration macroeconomic costs such as higher oil prices would be likely to raise the cost to $5 or $6 trillion.

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Talk:History of Kyiv/Image copyright issues

Figure 1
I added the picture of Archangel Michael monument to the top. I think it's a good one, a combination of an old city protector with modern city background. However, please take a look at the picture here. A.M. may be better depicted and faces the viewer, but OTOH the background coolness is lost. I favour the current one, but other opinions are welcome. Thanks! --Irpen 18:04, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

 * You should be very careful about putting copyrighted photos, if you want the article to become FA at some point. You can see the list of what is OK in Copyright_FAQ. It may be hard to argue that photos qualify for fair use. Sashazlv 02:02, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

I am sure it is a PD, because it is an image of an object freely available for public view and such are defined as PD by UA law. Only images of such objects with some art involved in creation (by photo-artists, for example) may fall under protection. I just haven't created a PD template for images that fall into this category yet. So, I labeled it fairuse for now. --Irpen 02:08, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * This is just to avoid problems in the future. A photo of "an object freely available for public view" does not fall into PD per se. Photographic works are subject to copyright under article 8 of Ukraine._Law_on_Copyright_and_Related_Rights. This is true irrespective of what has been photographed. Except, of course, the 6 cases in article 10.

 * Maybe, you can reinterpret the photo as "symbol of a territorial community" for it to be PD. I don't know.

 * I think that tag has been until now quite abused. We are just lucky that noone cares too much about Ukrainian images. Otherwise, a good lawyer could easily make a lot of trouble. Sashazlv 03:02, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

I am not a lawyer, but here is how I view this. Yes, photographic works are objects of copyright, and a photohrapher, or his agent, may claim a copyright of any picture produced by him or his business. However, some claims are not enforceable if they are overridden by other provisions of the law, and hence should not be considered valid.

If I scan a bank-note on my scanner, my claim of the copyright protection of the image would be a bogus one, since bank-notes are a PD. If I make a collage using money, that would be MY art and this would be a different story.

Same with a photographs. If I made a still-life composition at home using some household objects arranged in a modernistic way and pictured it, my claim for protection would be valid. If I make a picture of Cezanne's still-life at the National Gallery (they do allow pictures there), I cannot claim a copyright, because the object on the picture is a PD and that's just a regular picture, not some artistic photographic view of Cezanne's work.

Same here, the object of the image is the monument, and not a picture taken by a photographer since the picture has nothing special in it. The monument is in a public place and anyone can see it. If the picture is made with a monument at the sunset, or a lighting (like a Beregynia photo), that's an artistic image and this can be protected. If this is just a regular picture of something already freely available, whoever claims the copyright either doesn't know what he is doing, or does it "just in case", but still his claims cannot be validly enforced, hence should not be accounted for. The Article 21 of the Russian law explicitely speaks about public places "except where the presentation of the work constitutes the main feature of the said reproduction". The similar provision must also be in US and UA law, and actually, if there is one in either we are OK. We should check though. Note, that Beregynia's pic is artistic and copyrighted. I used it as per copyright holder's policy (tema.in.ua just requires an attribution). What do you think? Maybe my view is wrong and we should wait what others would say. --Irpen 03:37, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * In principle, I agree. Except that Ukrainian law need not coincide with either Russian or U.S. Beregynia photo might be OK under fair use. But I think it would be much safer not to include it if Kiev/History of Kiev go for an FA candidacy. Sashazlv
 * I read somewhere that WP's consern is the US law only (is it because it resides at the US servers? I don't know.) So, even if UA law says something to the contrary, the US law is all that matters but I will have to check. --Irpen

 * I think that we are not efficiently spending our time discussing all these questions. There are many more urgent things to do. Sashazlv 04:52, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Just interested. Say, I "creatively" processed someone else's photo. For instance, literally removed, pixel by pixel, flowers and pigeon's dung. Do I have the copyright to the new image? Compare:

I think that to process the photo and publish it, the copyright of the photo has to allow alteration at the first place. Suppose it does. Than, I think if this question is discussed, an author (or a judge, should there be a court action) should make a reasonable judgement, whether the alteration qualifies as a separate copyrightable work. For these two pictures, I don't think there is any new copyright. Where did you get the original? Check your email, btw. And also, please help with rearranging images in Kiev. It got messy once I drastically cut the history chapter. --Irpen 06:43, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

 * Please take a loot at Wikipedia_talk:Image_copyright_tags/archive3. It answers some of the issues raised here. Regards, --Irpen 22:29, August 17, 2005 (UTC)


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User talk:Red stucco

Hi! You left a message on my talk page, but I'm afraid I don't understand what you meant! Can you clarrify? Thanks! Trollderella 15:09, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Welcome, Red stucco!
Hello Red stucco, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like it here and stick around. If you want, you can drop us a note at New user log to introduce yourself.

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SPAM: Articles for deletion/Albert M. Wolters
An article for deletion discussion in which you participated has been re-opened. You may want to participate in the discussions at VfU:Albert_M._Wolters or discuss at Tony_Sidaway:talk how you feel about his actions. Sorry for the spam, brenneman (t) (c) 03:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Sockpuppet allegations
Warning. Sockpuppet allegations are taken serious here. If made lighty, or without good evidence, they are seen as personal attacks on someone's integrity. Frankly, no one is going to believe that User:Tony Sidaway is operating User:Trollderella as a sock. You might want to retract and apologize, unless you have very strong evidence. don't be a dick - this will cause more illfeeling and will do you no good. --Doc (?) 09:26, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

 * It's okay, no need to apologise. It was an obvious false alarm, and it might have been less embarrassing for you, redstucco, if you had asked me about it first on my talk page.  I don't bite, you know. --Tony Sidaway Talk  13:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Is there something going on that I don't understand? ;) Trollderella 16:05, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

 * From q:Team America: World Police:

 * "Gary Johnston: Oh, no, we are'nt! We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Film Actors Guild... are pussies. And Kim Jong Il... is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks - also - fuck - assholes... assholes who just wanna shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole... is a dick... with some balls. The problem with dicks is, sometimes they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate...
 * Gary Johnston: ...and it takes a pussy to show 'em that. But sometimes, pussies get so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are only an inch and half away from assholes. I don't know much in this crazy, crazy world, but I do know: If you don't let us fuck - this - asshole, we're going to have our dicks and our pussies all covered in shit!" -- red stucco 08:54, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

My RFA
I'm sorry you found reason to object to my adminship, but now that I've been promoted, I'd like to clear the slate. If you have any specific issues/problems with me, please feel free to state them on my talk page so that I can work to prevent them in the future. ALKIVAR ™ 07:18, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Common sense
Hi there. Just wanted to clarify in response to your comment on my RfA. When I make decisions according to common sense, I use logic and reasoning. My point was exactly that; rather than be rigid and unable to handle unusual circumstances just because the rules didn't anticipate them, I'll use my own logic and reasoning to come up with a solution that both solves the problem and fits within the spirit of the rules. Just wanted to clarify. Thanks! —Cleared as filed. 11:56, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Your votes on AfD
Hi, I have been looking over some of your recent votes on AfD, and noticed that they are based solely on whether the article have any sources listed, with a delete vote for any that have none. This is a very unusual way to vote, and I was wondering if you could explain it further. Should all unforced material be removed from Wikipedia? Should anything with a source stay in? Would you apply this to other encyclopedias? Thanks. Apyule 08:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Even with the comments that you left on my talk page, I still don't see quite where you are comming from. The policy is for unverifiable, not unverified.  Can you please explain a bit more, especially things like the length of time you would give people to add references to articles and how deleting an article without references gives a better end result than tagging it as unreferenced? (You can respond here, I am watching your page and will check back whenever I can.)  Thanks again, --Apyule 08:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * How is one to ascertain the subject matter of an article is not a hoax or original research? I believe it is for the writer to cite sources as paramount importance. Yes I could go away and find a source relating to the subject and see if I can match every assertion to my source. If I do that, I might as well re-write the article.
 * I agree with you to the extent of tagging, in that I would not nominate articles on AfD, I would tag it with Template:not verified or something, but if an article has already reached Afd and has no sources then the article clearly has problems, and the best way forward is to have sources so verifiability and neutrality can be scrutinised. If amongst the article creators, and other editors wishing to keep the article, none of those can find and quote a source in the article in the Afd lag time, then I personally believe the article should go. -- red stucco 09:20, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've got it now. It actually seems like a good baseline, and makes a lot more sense than the way that most people decide at AfD. --Apyule 07:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Londonderry Railway Station
Hi Red stucco, you asked about a credible publisher for the station. Have a look at, the railway's timetable. I share your skepticism of web sites, but I'm willing to believe that this railway station exists without going there. If, however, there's further reason to distrust this, please let me know. I'm very happy to weigh additional evidence in the hope of coming to a firmer conclusion.

Best regards, Fg2 11:07, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Are you referring the to the Florida Dept of Transportation website? TimL 16:02, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Not in particular, this was a general observation. red stucco  10:31, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Image galleries
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