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Talk:Lost (2004 TV series)/Archive 1

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Title of article
Can we talk about what the title of this article should be?

I started it out at Lost (television drama) as to differentiate it from Lost (reality television program). At this article's present name - it could be talking about either show. Plus, now we have double redirects. What should this article be called? R ADICAL B ENDER ★  20:20, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * I did not know about the reality show. Personally I have no objection to moving this article to Lost (television drama), and then the Lost (TV series) page could be a disambiguation page pointing people to the other two.  I would be happy to do the grunt work to move everything around unless you'd like to.  Sorry for the mix-up.  Ahkond 13:03, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Content moved to Lost (television drama) Ahkond 18:55, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Other TV Show Links
I noticed in one of Charlie's episodes - I think it's the one where he gets a job selling copy machines - there's mention of buying a paper company in Slough. I'm wondering if this is a reference to the British comedy show The Office which centred around a paper company in Slough. Connor Wolf

Might be. J.J. Abrams mentioned Ricky Gervais in the "Lost Revealed" documentry, so he's clearly heard of him. -Occono

Microcosm
As a writer myself, I was musing on this show, a thought occurred. When anyone is creating a ensemble story like this, building a functional (even with a touch of dysfunctionality) is the foundation to the story. This can be said of many shows on TV, books or movies. However, it is when you apply this theory not only to the construction of the characters, but the construction of the story, then we have something new.

When you build an army, you need fighters and medics, supply offers and engineers, intelligence officers and the like. In Lost, we have them all, and if we remove some of the 'clutter' (personal stories of drug addiction and babies), then we have a functional unit. Locke, the Hunter; Sawyer, the gatherer; Michael, the engineer; and of course, Jack, the Doctor. The Survivors don't have to look too far to find a solution, and ultimately the problem comes from inside their unit, rather than from outside.

The many comic book references and the presence of Mira Furlan made me think about JMS's (J. Michael Strasynski) [Rising Stars]. In this story, a special effect imbues 113 people with special abilities while they are still in their respective mothers' wombs. All the 'Specials' are granted different powers, but together they could form a unique army, able to deal with any crisis, almost anywhere. An excellent story told well. But, Lost has the same constructed dynamic.

It should be pointed out, that most shows on the US Networks have this team-building dynamic. However, their constructed teams are a reason unto themselves. Lost's dynamic appears to be itself special.

As for applying this construct to an arcing story, well, I have my own theories. I do get the impression that the Writers are sitting back and waiting for people like us to propose, reason, hammer out, point-counter-point, debate, and postulate causes and effects, thusly doing their work for them. As such I can't see any theory as being worth the wait. Telling stories is simply answering questions. As the story progresses, more and more questions become answers and the possibilities become more and more refined until we have one 'truth'. That truth, whether it be Time-Travel ('they aren't the survivors they think they are' - they survived the crash & they survived *what*) or Aliens or a variant on the Bermuda Triangle, I can only see it as a Christmas Morning disappointment. Great show, though.

Kate's Name & Nationality
Yes... IMDB lists her as "Kate Ryan." However, I do not recall her name being confirmed by any official source. The name used in WtCMB is "Maggie Ryan" and in TR is "Annie." Because of this, it seems pretty clear that Kate has a number of aliases, and the Kate referred to by the Marshal may just be another alias... and her real last name has not been mentioned. Therefore, I think it's important that we figure this out for real instead of just changing it back and forth. To begin with, does anyone have a tape of the scene in the bank where she says "My name's not Maggie?" Someone on The Fuselage says that line ends with "It's Kate." If someone can confirm it, we can at least firm up her first name. Her last name is a bigger stretch, and perhaps we can ask one of the writers about that. Baryonyx 03:37, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, well. I'm not starting an edit war with someone who posts from an IP address. Especially since I'm laughing at the coincidence of seeing the real world Kate Ryan on the IGN front page this morning. It's not really that critical to life, and I've got a full schedule as it is. Good luck, all. Baryonyx 15:09, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

 * I just checked the episode in question and "Kate" says "My names's not Maggie. (looks at bank manager) Now go." --Nosilleg 05:02, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

RE: Kate's Canadian citizenship. I added a note to the character page that Kate Ryan was the also name of a famous Canadian frontierswoman -- and considering that Evangeline Lily is Canadian, it could very be likely the character is as well. However, her bank robbery took place in the US, so it is more probable that it was US--LeFlyman 03:20, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

The show will no longer cover only 40 days
The 2nd to last fact (the 1st series will cover 40 days) is not true anymore since ABC ordered a full season of the show.

 * I thought that the 40 days was based on a full series with each episode covering approximately 2 days. At this point I think the time span is too up in the air and maybe we should just dump this note until somebody figures out a complete timeline.  Ahkond 13:03, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * I dropped the note about the 40 days when moving the content to Lost (television drama) Ahkond 18:55, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

This is from thefuselage.com, sorry, I did not grab the direct URL to the post: Fury posted, "The first forty is our goal, biblical references intentional, but leave it to us to miscount." Fury goes on to explain this includes, "The twenty-two episode season WILL include the two-part pilot. So pilot plus twenty." (Mitluf)

From VFD
Lost (ABC TV series) This is not exclusively broadcast on ABC - SD6-Agent 11:27, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * VfD is not the forum if you don't like the title. Use Talk. R ADICAL B ENDER  ★  14:08, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * I agree. We should keep this.  -Yamla
 * I've moved this and the 2001 Lost to disambiguate by year of broadcast rather than by network. I am accordingly removing this from VfD, since there really isn't any reason for it to be here. Bearcat 18:44, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Kate and Canada, Jack a doctor?
Kate told the Australian farmer that she was Canadian, but she also told him that her name was Annie. It is reasonable to assume that anything she told him was a lie, as she was a fugitive and trying to stay hidden. Unless we get some other confirmation, we should not take her claim of Canadian citizenship at face value. There is another Kate-centric episode coming up so let's see whether we get some more of her story.

Also, even though everyone seems to agree that Jack is a doctor, it is worth noting that every time anybody asks Jack about this he is evasive. He has never actually confirmed that he is an M.D. He also knows a lot about airplaine travel, so much so that the other characters remarked on it during the pilot episode. Furthermore, he has mysterious tattoos on his arm. It is possible that Jack is a spy or a "special ops" soldier of some kind with a wide-ranging base of knowledge that would include enough medical information to deal with field injuries. There is another Jack episode coming up, so let's see whether we learn more about Jack's life before the crash.

 * There are clues that he may not be a doctor at least presently, however, there was one particular episode where he talks to Kate about overcoming fear where he in particular mentions doing some sort of surgery. We can assume that at one point in time he wanted or was a doctor. My guess, if he's not, is that perhaps he was in practice with his father, but got upset and left. So far this is probably the best guess and something that all the characters currently have in common. Jack doesn't want to be a leader/doctor. Kate doesn't want to be a fugitive etc etc whatever she's a fugitive for rather. Sayid doesn't want to be a so-called "communications" officer. Sawyer wants to get away from being the man he hates (con-man). Charlie doesn't want to be in Driveshaft. Etc etc etc. This is a common theme of all the characters. All the information about the characters is current. If Kate doesn't turn out to be actually from Canada it can be changed. If Jack turns out not to be a real doctor, it can be changed, but as of now the article is written from a current point of view and all information are "facts" that have been revealed. K1Bond007 20:00, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)

 * You're right about the common theme about people wanting go change their lives, but Kate claiming to be from Canada is not a "fact" by any means. I see no reason to assume that this is true, and the fact that a US Marshal (not the RCMP or some other Canadian authority) was retrieving her from Australia tends to suggest that she's an American.  Anything she said to the farmer should be assumed to be a cover story and not a "fact".  I forgot about Jack talking about performing surgery, but then again he could have been lying or maybe he performed emergency field surgery in the middle of a military operation ... Jack's occupation is still a mystery.  In any case we only have a few weeks to wait until another "Kate" episode and another "Jack" episode and I'm sure we all look forward to updating our information then.  Ahkond 14:31, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Given the variety of medical diagnoses and proceedures Jack has successfully attempted on the show, not to mention his wide knowledge of drugs and medical equipment, it seems extraordinarily unlikely that he is not a physician of some sort. One can take caution to such extremes that discussion about the show becomes impossible; can we trust the flashbacks as being "real," for example? (My wife, to take another example, is convinced that Kate is not actually a fugitive, but that the man who "arrested" her was some sort of stalker. And indeed, a close review of the episode finds no "evidence" either way.) Speaking of which, to flip the argument about Kate's nationality around, how do we know that Shannon is American, and not Canadian?

 * Naturally everything is up for debate at some level. As intelligent humans, the best approach is to use common sense and try to stay reasonable and open-minded.  With this show I am trying to take everything at face value, as it is presented, unless I have some specific reason to doubt something.  I am assuming that Kate was lying about Canada because she had a reason to lie -- she was on the run.  I am assuming that Jack may not be a doctor because he is evasive about it, but that could be for a lot of reasons.  Until such time as we know for sure that he is a doctor I am more comfortable with more cautious language like the current "apparently a doctor" line that someone came up with.  On the other hand, I have no reason to doubt the veracity of the flashbacks, and I have no reason to doubt that the U.S. Marshal was anything other than what he seemed, because nothing has given me reason to doubt those things.  As for Shannon, you're right, we don't know for sure where she and Boone are from.  Feel free to remove the nationality note from their names in the cast list.  Ahkond 03:55, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * In the first episode, Jack said he is a doctor, during the first twenty minutes of the show! -- Judson 04:10, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Great! Do you have a tape or can someone else confirm this from a tape or TiVo copy?  If I'm remembering this wrong then I'm happy to be corrected.  Ahkond 20:28, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Pulled out the tape to check - Jack says it when he asks Kate to stitch him up. ("Look, I'd do it myself - I'm a doctor - but I just can't reach it.") I didn't remember him flat-out saying it either, but I'll admit I didn't doubt he was a doctor until stumbling upon this discussion. Hedgey42 09:43, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Thank you.  I have changed the page.  Sorry for all the trouble, everyone.  Ahkond 04:11, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Incase there is still any doubt about Jack being a real practicing doctor, he was doing surgery, in an operating room in the Cowboys episode -- he also had a white coat on with his name and the letters M.D. on it.

Pilot episode cost?
There's an interesting New York Times article about J.J. Abrams that cites the pilot budget as around $12 million (instead of $5 million). Can either figure be confirmed? - Hedgey42 19:02, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Never mind - someone's already updated the article with information from the Entertainment Weekly cover story on the show, including a cost of $11 million-plus. --Hedgey42 02:24, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Island Inhabitants
Should the Trivia section now state "At least two people were on the island before the crash"? Now that its basically confirmed that 'Ethan' wasn't on the flight. Should it say something akin to "An unknown amount of people might have been on the island before the plane crash, with two confirmed thus far." ?

 * How about "So far, it has been confirmed that two other people were on the island prior to the crash." Then again, it occurred to me while writing the synopsis that we only know for sure that Ethan was not on the LIST of people on the flight... at least until the next episode. In any case, I think it might be safe to assume that no one who claims to be Canadian actually is. ;) --Hedgey42 08:19, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

There are 45 survivors but not the way that the article says. There were 48 survivors when it crashed, not including the pilot, because no one knew he was alive. However, they thought that Ethen was a Survivor so it was 47. Then the Marshall died making it 46, and the woman dies making it 45. Right? As for the number of people on the island before the crash, it might have been well over 2. They are hinting that there might be many more around. Headrattle 00:17, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * But perhaps Ethan only showed up after they did that count of 48. Gamaliel 08:01, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Something seems a bit off here. IIRC, in White Rabbit, after Joanna was gone, someone came up to Jack (think it was Hurley) and said something about "48 of us," to which Jack responded, "47. There are only 47 of us now." If I am remembering this correctly, NONE of the people prior to White Rabbit counted as survivors, which also means that Ethan could have been counted. This means that the pilot (which, BTW, Charlie, Jack, and Claire never told the others that the pilot had been even temporarily alive) and the Marshal do not count. Therefore, the actual count is either 46 or 45, depending on when Ethan appeared and whether he was counted among the 48. So, if I'm right about White Rabbit, the counts here and on the Characters of Lost page are wrong. Baryonyx 19:42, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, after checking around, I found this bit on TV Tome pertaining to White Rabbit, stating that with Joanna's death there are now 46 survivors. The first survivor death is thus the Marshal. The second is Joanna. The third is Scott. The fourth may or may not be Ethan, which is up in the air. The pilot is not counted as a survivor. Baryonyx 06:37, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * You are close. From the White Rabbit transcript: "JACK: Forty-six.  There's forty-six of us now."  This means 46 - Scott = 45. Oddly, they do not include Ethan in the count -- at least according to Matt Ragghianti. (Mitluf)

I got a reply from Writers Assistant Matt Ragghianti on thefusalage.com about this. Matt, with the other Writers Assistant Dawn Kelly, write the Diary and are responsible for research. According to Matt, "The 48 DO NOT include the guy sucked into the plane, Ethan, the Co-Pilot. They DO include the Marshal." And about "Tourniquet Man" Matt says, "Even I'm not sure what happened to Tourniquet Man." So, think we need to assume Tourniquet Man survived, and that the count is now 45 (48 - 3 (Marshal, Joanna, and Scott). (Posted by Mitluf).

Driveshaft
The article states Charlie as being the bass player for the UK band Driveshaft. But isn't Charlie Australian? Which would make the band from Australia, unless I'm being misinformed. -- The KoG | Talk 22:37, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

 * I was under the impression that the band is from the U.K. and his brother moved to Australia to settle down. Charlie then flew to Australia to get his brother to rejoin the band. Anyone else? K1Bond007 23:17, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

 * The band was started in the UK. I believe it was Kate that said "Driveshaft, that English band?" in the Pilot.

 * OK, I was misinformed. Charlie is from Manchester, which means DriveShaft IS from the UK. -- The KoG | Talk 14:02, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)

 * Driveshaft is probably meant to be Oasis: two brothers of Irish extraction from the North of England in a famous 1990s band that burns out and vanishes -- User:Paul From Ottawa

It seems here and in some forums people seem to forget to add that guy who was sucked into the jet engine as someone who died. Also, how about that guy whose leg was cut off?

Dead
How about that guy who was sucked into the jet engine as one of the dead?

 * Presumably there were multiple deaths in the immediate aftermath of the crash - people were running around, things were falling over and blowing up, people were bleeding. The count starts when the immediate emergency was over and the survivors took a head count.  Ahkond 17:23, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * IIRC, Jack tells someone who's asked about the "leg guy" that he thinks the person will be OK - I think this is later on in the pilot (2-hour version). Hedgey42 08:23, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Split Cast and Character Sections?
I propose that we take the current Cast section and split it into two sections. One would link the actor to the character and the other would provide information on the character. This isn't a Lost fan site, so we probably don't need to have separate pages for each character (although this is the case for some shows such as the X-files). The first season is only half over and we already have a large amount of background information for some of the characters. I believe a separate character section would be the best place to put this info. Carrp 17:18, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't disagree. I think there should be a seperate page called "Characters of Lost" or something where each has a small section devoted to the character. On the Lost main article, it would just list the cast and their character's name (nothing more) with a link at the top of the section to "Characters of Lost". Would be similar to Episodes of Lost. K1Bond007 18:18, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)

Untitled Episodes
I've added the Locke (Episode 19) and Jack (episode 20) to the episode guide. Please stop removing these two episodes from the page. They are confirmed; we just haven't received the titles.

 * They're eventual episodes, but they haven't been titled or announced. Please list a source or I'll remove them again shortly. K1Bond007 03:23, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)

 * Source: http://spoilerfix.com/lost.php

Scott and Steve
Okay, I must admit I'm going a bit crazy here: at IMDB.com it states that Christian Bowman played "Steve" in The Homecoming. However the individual who plays "Scott" (Dustin Watchman) hasn't appeared or been credited since The Moth. Christian Bowman has stated numerious times on TheFuselage.com that he was playing "Scott" in an upcoming episode, of course referring to The Homecoming. Could it be that Steve really died and that Scott doesn't want anyone to know he's alive? --Spunkz 04:12, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmm interesting. I was curious why they kept beating that drum about how his name was easily confused. It felt so out of place and forced. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some truth to this. K1Bond007 04:57, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

Character page
Does anyone oppose to a character page, similar to the episode page, where the chracters can have a proper small biography? What we have on the main article doesn't do them justice and the big table we have is starting to become irrelevant (IMO) since some upcoming character centric episodes have already explained why they were on the flight and some episodes haven't explained it at all. We could also keep a running tally of the deceased and the minor chracters like Scott and Steve on this chracter page, detailing which episodes they were killed etc.

Thoughts? K1Bond007 04:54, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree. The depth of the show and its characters is getting pretty thick. The writers are no longer trying to give us the same details of why they were on the plane as they seemed to be doing with the first handful of flashback episodes. It's moved to a place where the flashbacks explain the character's motivations. Keeping all this exposition to one line behind the character's name seems silly. --Spunkz 06:07, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree as well. We may eventually get to a point where the character plots are thick enough to spin them each to a separate page (as has happened for a variety of shows), but they're already getting pretty large information wise. As Spunkz noted, we've moved beyond reasons for being on the plane (which we haven't even gotten yet for Sawyer, Sayid, Hurley, and Jin), to character studies. Also, Ethan and Danielle are pretty sizeable characters in their own right, but are unlikely to get flashbacks. And I'll still bang the drum for Vincent being a character. He may not do much, but he always seems to appear and disappear at inopportune moments.Baryonyx 21:07, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

 * Makes sense to me. I would say go ahead and remove the big table as part of this.  Ahkond 21:20, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * This is a good idea. Although I originally thought a character section would be enough, I now believe that it deserves a page. Here's some information I think should be included for each character:

 * Name
 * Age
 * Profession
 * Place of origin
 * Reason for being in Australia
 * Reason for being on Flight 815
 * Previous connection(s) with other characters
 * Special talents

 * Of course there also needs to be a synoposis detailing what the character has done since the crash. Carrp | Talk 22:08, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, given that several of the larger editors seem to be on board, I went ahead and started the page, just so it's done and we can begin. I have, for now, laid out a basic idea for format, and used the current text, which I expect will be changed very rapidly. Once we have more info on that page, I'd say we can remove the listing here. Just wanted to get it rolling. :) Baryonyx 22:26, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

Continuity in Pilot
On 6 Feb @ 08:21 I inserted this into the Trivia entry:

 * "A continuity error ended the first (pilot) episode. In the final scene a woman sees the pilot's wings badge at the edge of a puddle on the track. The camera takes her eye's point of view as she crouches to look at it; she sees, as the audience does, reflected in the water of the puddle, the body of the pilot caught high in a tree - which must be ahead of her. However, she rises and turns to look at this behind her. Fade to credits."

On 8 Feb @ 05:24, 68.162.84.101 removed it without comment.

Does someone have access to the episode who can refute my claim of this continuity error? Otherwise, I'll reinstate it. The clock is ticking (45:03). Peter Ellis 01:45, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * This doesn't seem noteworthy IMHO. It's a minor "goof" that really doesn't need special mentioning on this article. There are literally TONS of these sort of things in TV shows, movies etc. If it MUST be added don't add it here. Add it to Episodes of Lost for that specific episode, but I generally disagree with adding it anywhere. K1Bond007 02:00, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

 * This hardly seems significant enough to include in an article on the entire show, and I think it might even be too minor for an article on that single episode. Gamaliel 03:09, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You All Everybody vs Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody
Anyone else notice the two seem eerily similar? You all everybody lines up with the lyric that goes goodbye everybody. Similar chord structure, rhythm, even lyrics. Any reason for this, or just coincidence?-- Etaonish 19:55, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Connections from Flashbacks
Locke to Hurley [19, Deus Ex Machina]: Locke's Mother Emily was institutionalized for schizophrenia at the "Santa Rosa Mental Health Insitute", which is the same institute that Hurley visits, and is suspected of being a patient there himself.

Sawyer to Hurley [18, Numbers]: The girl that Sawyer was about to hook up with before Hibbs distracted him was the same girl that drew the lottery numbers on Hurley’s tv.

Hurley to Locke [18, Numbers]: Hurley owned a box company in Tustin, CA. Locke worked at a box company and has said that he spent most of his life in Tustin.

Hurley to Jin [17, ... In Translation]: When Jin went to deliver a message, the Minister’s daughter was watching the news on tv, and Hurley winning the lottery was the story.

Boone to Sawye[13, Hearts and Minds]r: When Boone went to the police about Shannon, Sawyer was being brought into the police station.

Sawyer to Jack [8, Confidence Man]: Sawyer met Jack’s dad in a bar in Australia

Jin & Sun to Jack [5, White Rabbit]: you can see the couple in another line at the airport as Jack tries to convince the airline to take his father's casket on board.

Diary Writer (on official site) to Joanna: In a diary entry after Joanna drowns, the Diary Writer mentions that she had dived with Joanna, and that Joanna had switched seats to sit next to the Diary Write on the plan to talk about the trip. Obviously, both are from the U.S. (note: Diary writer is from Louisiana).

Jack to Rose [1, Pilot]: Jack sat with Rose on the plane and held her hand during the first signs of turbulence -- Rose's husband had gone to the back of the plane to use the bathroom and the plane crashed before he returned.

Is there a character connection in every flashback? If so, there are quite a few missing from above.

 * I did some more research on actors who are showing up in more than one background roll and it seems to happen fairly commonly. This means the "connection" perceived to be between Sawyer to Hurley due to the same actress appearing my not have been intended. Here is a list of other occurances:
 * Geoff Heise is credited simply as "Man" in the Pilot, but also playt the Doctor in the morgue in White Rabbit.
 * Meilinda Soerjoko plays Chrissy the Ticket Agent in both House of the Rising Sun and White Rabbit. She is also credited as Chrissy in Walkabout, but I have not spotted her yet, it may be a goof in the credits.
 * Achilles Gacis plays both Six Foot Five (the tall gunman in the bank robbery) in Whatever the Case May Be and an Orderly in Numbers.
 * Michael Adamshick plays both the Lottery Official in Numbers and an Anesthesiologist in All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues.
 * Ans of course we have Brittany Perrineau as Mary Jo the Lotto Girl in Numbers and credited only as "Woman" (the one Sawyer brought to room, but was interuprted by Hibbs) in Outlaws. (posted by Mitluf)

 * The Christian/Sawyer interaction occurred in Outlaws, regardless of any earlier intimations that they may have met (the main one being Hearts and Minds). They certainly did NOT meet in Confidence Man, which instead focused on his failed con operation on a family remarkably similar to his own. Also, Jack and Rose did not have any real connection prior to the flight. Saying that they had a connection simply because Jack spoke to her is the equivalent of saying that Charlie had a connection to Jack because he rushed past him, and Locke had a connection because he sat behind Rose. A "connection" should only be attributed to seeing our core characters (including important secondary ones) interacting pre-flight. --Baryonyx 05:32, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

It's Jack Shephard not Shepard
It's Jack Shephard not Shepard. Please do not change back. If you doubt this, then check this page:

What is Trivia
I removed the trivia "the heroin that Charlie snorts is really brown sugar". This is really sub-trivia. This is a TV series, so everything in it is faked. We don't want to have to add trivia like "when Ethan was shot, the actor wasn't really killed". DJ Clayworth 15:22, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Numbers, Numbers, Numbers...
I have altered the section pertaining to the numbers in Themes, removing the following:

Reasoning: there is a wide array of manipulations of the numbers, and an even larger number of interpretations on what it all means. For example, they all add to 108, and 108 is 6² + 6² + 6². Or, the connection that various equations using five of the numbers will give you the 6th. Or, any of the many others being debated over on The Fuselage. To give precedence to any one manipulation on this page is improper to say the least.-- Reasoning: as far as I know, this is a supposition, albeit one with strong evidence. I believe it's a "Connection" myself (in fact, it was instantly what I thought when I heard it in the episode), but it would therefore belong in the characters section of trivia, and not themes. If there is concrete evidence linking Locke to the box company (and merely saying Locke grew up in Tustin, the company is in Tustin isn't enough... there could be more than one box company in Tustin...), it should be put back in. Reasoning: again, "some suppose" and a real connection are two different things. While not impossible, I'd characterize this as more speculation than fact. Reasoning: another supposition based on the fact they were played by the same actress, except we have other examples of multiple very minor characters being played by the same actor. This is a fairly big leap in logic based on a connection made outside the Lost universe.
 * Interestingly enough, the first five numbers of the sequence add up to make 66. The digits of the last number--the Powerball number--add up to make 6.
 * During Hurley's trip to see his accountant we learn he owned a number of companies, one is the box company that Locke worked for
 * another is shoe company in Canada that burned down -- some suppose there is a connection to Ethan Rom as there was a close up of his shoes and he mentioned he purchased them in Canada.
 * The blonde woman that Sawyer was trying to grift was the woman who announced the lottery numbers.

All in all... there is a ton of wild speculation going on about these numbers all over the place. There's enough speculation going on to fill a Wikipedia article, I'm sure. But, that's not what Wikipedia is for, and even small little things like these notions can quickly get all blown up to be factual by people who cite Wikipedia for reference. For a show as speculative (at this stage) as Lost, I think that we have to be responsible about the info we're putting up. -- Baryonyx 07:39, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

Looking at any set of numbers and you'll find a pattern. While some have postulated to their being a divine reason behind it all, these pattern can be evidence of a lack of a God at all (patterns are to be expected in highly developed systems, etc.)

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Bara, Syria

Bara or al-Bara (بارة) is one of the former "Dead Cities" in northwestern Syria. It is located in the Zawiya Mountain approximately 65 km north from Hama and approx. 80 km southwest from Aleppo. Al-Bara is also a town in Ariha district. According to the Syria Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS), al-Bara had a population of 10,353 in the 2004 census.

History
The settlement was established in the fourth century at an important trade route between Antioch and Apamea. Due to good location and excellent conditions to produce wine and olive oil, it flourished in the 5th and 6th centuries; this was aided by the plentiful underground water in the area. Agricultural development accelerated from the 5th century, with peasants digging to access underground springs rather than relying on waterfalls, the appearance of a network of wells and canals across the region, the cutting of private reservoirs in courtyards to collect rainwater, and the digging of large communal reservoirs.

The site’s affluence is demonstrated by well-decorated stonework, industrial-scale olive presses and a small number of decorated monumental tombs from the 6th century. The settlement is one of the only mountain sites of the Dead Cities with more than a dozen hearths. A series of ruined monasteries are close to the southern edge of the site, with Deir Sobat in good condition and Deir Debbane and al-Deir in a poorer state of repair. Church E5, in the centre of the complex, is particularly richly decorated, with the church layout and mosaic representations similar to those of nearby Apamea.

At the height of the Byzantine Empire’s power, the emperors increased their control over sites like Bara, strategically positioned to both protect mountain access and survey the more contested plains to the east. When Muslims conquered the region and trading routes were disrupted and other Dead Cities were abandoned, Bara remained inhabited, most inhabitants remained Christians, and the town even became a seat of a bishopric subordinate of Antioch under Peter of Narbonne. The centre of the town was excavated in 2007-2010, revealing a large mosque identified thanks to its fully preserved mihrab. The excavation also uncovered a bath complex which had undergone four distinct phases of occupation: the construction of late Roman thermal baths, the conversion to hammams during the early Islamic period, their abandonment during the 11th century, and their conversion to housing during the Mamluk period.

In 1098, Al-Bara was conquered by crusaders (from there they later set off to the infamous cannibalistic massacre of Ma`arat al-Numan) led by Raymond de Saint-Gilles. The town was taken by Ridwan in 1104 and retaken by Tancred a year later. However, it was retaken by Muslims from 1119 to 1122. In 1123, the town was reconquered by Belek Ghazi who built a small fortress. By 1130, it was retaken by the crusaders of Antioch until it was finally controlled by Nur ad-Din in 1148. Later in the 12th century, after a severe earthquake, the town was abandoned.

Later, in the beginning of the 20th century, a modern village of the same name arose near the site of the ancient town and till today it has grown to the size of a small town.

Al-Bara's ruins are the most extensive of all Dead Cities and are scattered among fields, olive groves and orchards. Due to its long continuous inhabitation, the ruins are also some of the most varied of the Dead Cities. Among many others, one can distinguish remains of at least five churches, three monasteries, several villas, two pyramidal tombs and one underground tomb.

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Matthew Richardson (footballer)

Matthew Richardson (born 19 March 1975) is a former professional Australian rules footballer and current media personality who represented Richmond in the Australian Football League (AFL).

On 4 March 2014, Richardson became a member of the AFL's All Australian selection committee.

Background
Richardson is known for his marking prowess, speed and work rate. He was the club's key forward through the mid-1990s and the 2000s. He led the club's goalkicking for thirteen seasons, and was selected in the All-Australian Team three times – in 1996, 1999 and 2008.

Richardson's 800 career goals currently see him ranked second behind Jack Titus at Richmond, and twelfth on the all-time list of AFL/VFL goalkickers. He also holds the record for most goals kicked without winning a Coleman Medal. He currently holds the record for the most goals kicked at the Melbourne Cricket Ground. Richardson was one of the most popular players in the competition; this was shown when the crowd at the 2008 Brownlow Medal cheered every vote he got. Mark Robinson from the Herald Sun wrote "M. Richardson... I'm sure there wouldn't have been a more popular winner".

AFL career
Educated at St. Brendan-Shaw and Don Colleges in Devonport, Tasmania, Richardson was the fourth pick (a father–son selection) in the 1992 AFL draft, and was recruited from Devonport, Tasmania. He is the son of former Richmond and South Melbourne player Alan "Bull" Richardson.

Combining a 197 centimetre frame with speed and athletic capacity for a large man, on his day he has been a dominant presence for the Tigers. He suffered a torn left ACL in Round 9, 1995.,against Sydney at the SCG after he hyper-extended his left knee while landing as he was running out of bounds and crashed hard into the fence and missed the rest of the season after reconstructive surgery on his knee, including the Tigers' finals series – the Sydney Cricket Ground was forced to increase the distance between the boundary line and the fence (which at the time was as short as 2.5m in places) in response to the injury. In 1996 he came back strongly, playing all 22 games and finished with 91 goals (49 behinds), earning All Australian selection for the first time. He sustained another knee injury in the pre-season of 2001, but recovered to play 22 games and kick 59 goals.

In 2004, a decision to step down from the Tigers' leadership group (the small group of senior players who help lead the club on and off-field) and focus on additional strength training paid off, with good goal-kicking form in the early part of the season including a career best 10 against the Western Bulldogs. Richardson finished with a tally of 65 goals for the season. In 2005 he kicked 65 goals again, this time with much more consistency throughout the season.

In 2007, in the Dreamtime at the 'G match against, Richardson played the game with a fractured eye socket and broken nose sustained only a week before. He still managed to kick four goals, and was denied a potentially match-winning fifth when he was penalised for a push-in-the-back against his opponent, Mal Michael. In the same year, he won his first ever club best-and-fairest, beating young teammate Nathan Foley by a single vote. He averaged 15.1 disposals & 9 marks per game, he also kicked 53 goals for the season. Richardson spent a large part of the 2008 season playing on the wing, rather than in the forward line, which allowed him to have a much larger part in the play than previously. Although he did not win the club best-and-fairest, he was selected on the bench in the All-Australian team and finished third in the Brownlow Medal, polling 22 total votes. The 2008 season saw Richardson take 222 marks for the season, including 21 against Hawthorn in Round 20. He averaged 18.2 disposals per game, along with 11.1 marks per game, in which lead the entire AFL for the season and finals. Matthew also managed to kick 48 goals for the season.

In Round 6, 2009 against Sydney at the SCG, Richardson kicked his 800th and last career goal, becoming the eleventh player to reach the milestone in VFL/AFL history. Later in the same match, he partially tore his hamstring off the bone; he missed the remainder of the season with the injury, and announced his retirement after the season. He received a rousing send-off in Round 1, 2010, appearing before the match in Richmond's season opener against Carlton.

Richardson retired in 2009 after 282 senior games for Richmond; he became an Richmond Football Club life member after playing more than 150 games for the club and an Australian Football League life member after playing more than 300 games, including representative and pre-season matches. His career tally of 800 goals was the eleventh-highest at the time of his retirement, and it remained so until Lance Franklin passed him in Round 6 of the 2017 season. Richardson took a total of 2,270 marks during his AFL career, which was the second-highest of any player at the time of his retirement (since the statistic was recorded, starting in 1974).

Media career
Following his retirement at the end of the 2009 AFL Season and during parts of the 2009 AFL Season when he was injured, Richardson was an AFL expert commentator for telecast matches and a panellist on the review show 'One Week at a Time', both Network Ten shows.

In 2010, Richardson became part of the Seven Network AFL telecast team, initially as a boundary rider and then as a member of the Friday and Saturday night commentary teams, providing expert comments. He also appears on the Thursday night edition of Seven News Melbourne, to preview the weekend's AFL action, and as a panellist on Channel 7's AFL Game Day. He also is the colour commentator in AFL Evolution alongside Dennis Cometti.

Richardson also works for Richmond's media department, presenting their ‘Talking Tigers’ weekly podcast show and other videos on the club's website.

In September 2017, Richardson became a father for the first time when partner Genevieve Holliday gave birth to their daughter Zoey. The same month, Richardson worked the 2017 Grand Final pitting Richmond against Adelaide as a boundary rider and presented the Premiership cup to Richmond captain Trent Cotchin and coach Damien Hardwick following the Tigers' victory. The following year, Richardson and fellow Richmond legend Kevin Bartlett featured on an official recording of We're From Tigerland.

Statistics
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Achievements & Honours
AFL Richmond Other
 * AFL Rising Star Nominee (1993)
 * All Australian (1996, 1999, 2008)
 * All-Australian Squad: 2007
 * Alex Jesaulenko Medal (1996)
 * International rules football (1999)
 * Tasmanian State of Origin Representative (1993)
 * The Allies Representative (1996), (1997)
 * Dream Team Representative (2008)
 * Third in 2008 Brownlow Medal [Polled 22 votes]
 * AFL Life Membership 2009
 * Australian Football Hall of Fame Inductee as Player 2014
 * Richmond Leading Goalkicker (1994, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)
 * Richmond Team of the Century (Half-forward flank)
 * Richmond Life Membership 2002
 * Richmond Best and Fairest (2007)
 * 100 Tiger Treasures "The Strong & the Bold" Nominee (2008)
 * 100 Tiger Treasures "Brave Act of the Century" Nominee (2008)
 * 100 Tiger Treasures "Mark of the Century" Nominee (2008)
 * Tasmanian Team of the Century (Interchange Bench)

Personal life
His sister, Samantha, was married to retired Hawthorn, Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne footballer Jade Rawlings.

Matthew also has an older sister, Tracey, and a younger brother, Andrew.

In April 2017, Matthew Richardson and fiancée of eight years, Genevieve Holliday, announced they were expecting their first child a daughter. Their daughter, Zoey Isabella Richardson was born on Sunday 3 September 2017.

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André Maréchal

Robert Gaston André Maréchal (10 December 1916 – 14 October 2007) was a French researcher and administrator in optics.

André Maréchal was director general of the French Institut d'Optique. In 1986 Maréchal was elected to Honorary Membership of the Optical Society its highest honor, for his work in the areas of coherence, diffraction, geometric optics, image formation and image processing, and for his contributions to the international optics community. His pioneering work influenced the development of computer programs that optimized lens designs and advanced the automatic optimization of optical systems. He strongly contributed to the promotion of Fourier optics and analog optical computing.

Maréchal graduated from the École normale supérieure in 1941, and received his engineer's degree from SupOptique (École supérieure d'optique) in 1943. He received a doctor of science degree in engineering from the University of Paris in 1948. For his thesis research, he investigated the combined effects of diffraction and aberrations and derived what is now known as the Maréchal criterion. Formally, that a wavefront can be regarded as diffraction-limited if its RMS phase error is 14 times less than its wavelength.

Maréchal served as president of the International Commission for Optics (1962–1966), honorary vice president of the Comité français de physique, and was a founding member of the Franco-Finnish Association for Scientific and Technical Research. He was a member of the French Academy of Sciences, and of the French Academy of Technologies.

He died on 14 October 2007 at the age of 90.

Awards

 * 1965 - Young Medal and Prize
 * 1977 - C.E.K. Mees Medal
 * 1986 - Honorary Membership of the Optical Society
 * 1989 - SPIE Gold Medal

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Matthew Richardson (economist)

Matthew Richardson is the Charles E. Simon Professor of Applied Economics and Professor of Finance in the Finance Department at the Leonard N. Stern School of Business of New York University (NYU), New York, United States. He is also the Director of Alternative Investments at the Salomon Center for the Study of Financial Institutions at NYU. and a Research Associate of the National Bureau of Economic Research. Richardson is a co-editor of the Annual Review of Financial Economics.

Richardson has co-edited or co-authored four books on the financial crisis of 2007–2008 and the modernization of insurance regulations: Restoring Stability: How to Repair a Failed System (2009), Regulating Wall Street: The Dodd-Frank Act and the New Architecture of Global Finance (2010), Guaranteed to Fail: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Debacle of Mortgage Finance (2011) and Modernizing Insurance Regulation (2014).

Education
Richardson received both his B.A and M.S. in Economics concurrently from the University of California at Los Angeles in 1984. He received his Ph.D. in finance from the Graduate School of Business at Stanford University in 1989.

Career
Richardson was previously at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. Richardson joined the Leonard N. Stern School of Business of New York University in 1995. He has been the Sidney Homer Director of the Salomon Center for the Study of Financial Institutions at NYU, He is the Charles E. Simon Professor of Applied Economics and Professor of Finance in the Finance Department at the Leonard N. Stern School of Business of New York University (NYU).

Impersonation
In 2004, Richardson was apparently inadvertently impersonated by a British University of Oxford engineering undergraduate by the same name, who took up an offer to perform a series of lectures in Beijing. The student used an A-level t textbook to "blag" through two days of lectures before fleeing from his Chinese audience and interpreter.

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User talk:FuelWagon/050825

This is a summary page of the events that happened on the Terri Schiavo article around the middle of July, 2005. For more information, see also:

/block contents,

RfC against SlimVirgin,

RfC talk page

Ed Poor's initial endorsement

The end result of this whole entire fiasco was that two valuable editors left wikipedia in disgust. --

On 11 July, 2005, the Terri Schiavo article looked like this. The talk page marked the article as "controversial topic" and "in mediation". Ed Poor was mediator. An administrator named SlimVirgin came into the article, performed 9 edits over the course of 3 hours. During that time SlimVirgin inserted the "in use" tag, which displays "This article is actively undergoing a major edit."

Several long term editors on the article protested that SlimVirgin's edit was inappropriate for an article listed as "controversial" and in "mediation" and that it contained numerous factual errors that had already been hashed to death on the talk page. The Terri Schiavo case spans 15 years. The court cases regarding Terri Schiavo included a week-long trial; a seven-day evidentiary hearing; fourteen appeals and innumerable motions, petitions, and hearings in the Florida courts; five suits in Federal District Court; Florida legislation (Terri’s Law) that was struck down by the Florida Supreme Court; an effort by a congressional committee to overturn the state court judgment through the use of a committee subpoena; federal legislation (Palm Sunday Compromise) purporting to authorize petitioners to file suit in federal district court to raise issues of federal law under the U.S. Constitution; a decision by the court of appeals; and four denials from the United States Supreme Court, among others. Terri Shiavo was examined by 8 different neurologists during those 15 years.

What SlimVirgin did was edit the article based on loose information she had from some news reports. The article quotes the American Association of Neurologists regarding the chances of recovery from a persistent vegatative state, and SlimVirgin inserts an embedded note saying "is this true? I seem to recall a case in England..." based on anecdotal evidence. User:Neuroscientist (who is a neuroscientist who had been helping on the article for some time) wrote a 5,000 word post about the factual errors in her edits.

SlimVirgin's reply to Neuroscientist here. She tells him "I don't appreciate the personal comments you've lobbed at me" and she acknowledges not a single factual error on her part. Instead she announces she is withdrawing from editing to decide if she should deal with the page as an admin instead of an editor.

During the entire discussion on teh talk page, SlimVirgin never once acknowledges a single error in her edit. When someone offers evidence, she ignores it and asks for someone to point out any error in here edit.

 * Please say what your specific objections are, rather than reverting.

 * please discuss your objections on talk.

 * I'm assuming the above can't be your only objection, so please lay them out

 * If you feel I've introduced errors, please list them on talk

 * You haven't yet explained why you want to exclude that information.

 * neither of you has said what your objection is.

 * If these are your only objections, I don't know why you reverted all my edits.

 * Show me one error I made in the article, either factual or grammatical.

 * If this is the only issue you can find with my copy edit, why did you revert it?

 * I'm waiting for an answer from FuelWagon or Duckecho that might explain the blind reverts. Show me one factual or grammatical error that I edited into the article.

 * I've asked several times for someone to point to one error of fact I edited into the article and so far no one has come up with one. You also mention errors of fact, but again, don't cite any.

 * If I made a factual error, point to it.

SlimVirgin also made numerous allegations against several editors on the page.

 * SlimVirgin wrote "I feel that FuelWagon and Duckecho are POV pushing too by insisting, for example, that no dissenting voice be heard in the intro." FuelWagon never made the claim that no dissenting voice be heard in the intro. When confronted with this, SlimVirgin never responded or corrected her statement.

 * SlimVirgin wrote It appears that a small group of editors, currently consisting of User:FuelWagon and User:Duckecho have taken ownership of this page and won't allow others to edit without their consent. This isn't allowed. No one was "owning" the page or wouldn't let others edit it without our "consent". Despite numerous posts describing all the factual errors in her massive edit, SlimVirgin refused to acknowledge a single error and instead blamed other editors.

 * Here, SlimVirgin accuses FuelWagon of violating NPOV and "No Original Research". FuelWagon asked for diffs to show where he violated NPOV or where he violated No original research. SlimVirgin never responded and never retracted her accusation.

 * SlimVirgin accused FuelWagon of "arguing for the sake of arguing" about the prognosis for PVS. SlimVirgin's edit questioned the American Association of Neurology's prognosis of persistent vegatative state based on a single anecdotal case she "heard" about in England.

SlimVirgin posted FuelWagon and Duckecho were "insisting, for example, that no dissenting voice be heard in the intro."

FuelWagon posted "Unless you can QUOTE a DIFF from me that shows me EVER saying "no dissenting voice in the intro", then you are officially a f**%!ng *$$s0le. SHOW ME ONE DIFF WHERE I EVER SAID THAT."

I admit it violated NPA, but after 24 hours of trying to get SlimVirgin to acknowledge even one problem with her edit, the talk page had exploded, SlimVirgin continued to maintain her edit was perfectly fine and should be reinserted, SlimVirgin continued to accuse everyone attempting to point out errors with her edit as "taking ownership", "pushing pov", and other nonsense, and this time she straight out LIED about what I said. I never said no dissenting voice should be in the intro. Never. After all of SlimVirgin's allegations, her arguing neurology with an editor who was a neuroscientist, her stonewall refusal to acknowledge a single error of fact in her edits, this was the last straw. SlimVirgin said I said something that I never said.

Another editor (Viriditas) asked me to tone it down. so I went through and started cleaning up my comments.

On 21:02 July 12, Ed Poor blocks me or "unrepentant personal attacks". At the time, Ed Poor was acting mediator for the Terri Schiavo article.

My block allowed me to continue editing my talk page, so I began trying to compile a list of factual errors with SlimVirgin's edit.

45 minutes after Ed blocked me and 12 minutes after I posted to my talk page, SlimVirgin posts to Ed's page: FuelWagon is "continuing to edit with the same user account despite the block."

Ed Poor responds to Neuroscientist here:

 * There is a fine line between making personal remarks, and criticizing someone's contributions to Wikipedia. I hope you will read Avoid personal remarks. Please be careful not to hurt other editors' feelings with comments like:
 * *this User demonstrated very, very, very poor judgment by doing what she did.
 * *the 12,000-edit administrator who doesn’t seem to have learned ... do not be reckless.

 * out of 5,000 words of technical problems with SlimVirgin's edits regarding neurologically-related stuff, Ed comments on 28 words. No mention is made of any of the factual errors listed by SlimVirgin. Oh, the "dont be reckless" is an admonishing from wikipedia itself. I'm trying to figure out when you can say "don't be reckless" about an edit and when it becomes a violation of "no personal attacks".

17:05, 13 July 2005 :: SlimVirgin posted this in response to a new feature which allows blocked editors to edit their talk page. (cough).

 * I'm not keen on this feature, though I appreciate Ed had the right idea in asking for it, because it helps people to communicate and it keeps it off the mailing list. The downside is that we now have talk pages turning into obsessive diatribes against the blocking admin, or against the editors involved in the dispute that led to the block, not a good thing to be on the receiving end of.

Ed Poor posts this reply on SlimVirgin's talk page.

 * You made a very good point, Slim:
 * obsessive diatribes against the blocking admin, or against the editors involved in the dispute that led to the block, not a good thing to be on the receiving end of
 * Can we deal with this by then (1) giving them a clear No personal attacks block and then (2) protecting their talk page? (If we had to continue talking about the block - everyone but them of course - we could do it on an unprotected subpage.)

Ed asks Slim "Any particular talk pages I should look at?"

Soon thereafter, Ed Poor takes any comments on my talk page that have anything to do with the Terri Shiavo article and moves them to a subpage, and then he locks me out from editing my talk page.

His entry on the block log says something about continued "hurtful" remarks. There are no "hurtful" remarks in what I was working on in my talk page. It all had to do with SlimVirgin's edit and her behaviour on the Terri Schiavo talk page. There is nothing that qualifies as a violation of policy in any way. I was attempting to boil down all the problems with SlimVirgin's edits on my talk page in a just-the-facts-maam, sort of way.

I get a 40 hour block and don't protest it. I posted something on my talk page to let people know I was blocked, but I don't tell Ed "no fair". I violated NPA, and if a 40 hour block is the only way to restore integrity, even if I was in the process of cleaning up my edits, then so be it.

When the block expired, I file a user RFC on SlimVirgin. A copy of it is here. Basically, the RFC states that SLimVirgin's edit was reckless, that she stonewalled any criticism of her edit without acknowleding a single error on her part, and wrongly accused editors of violating NPOV, NOR, ownership, and misquoted them. It was certified by FuelWagon and Duckecho. And it was endorsed by Neuroscientist, Proto, and Calton.

At one point, Ed Poor partially endorsed it. However, Ed withdrew his endorsement soon after and attacked the RFC on the talk page as a "sneaky way of building a case against an administrator", "gaming the system in a hypocrical way", and Ed suggested FuelWagon drop the RFc.

Ed mentions that he saw I was in the process of cleaning up my comments on teh talk page and that he had mixed feelings about giving me the 40-hour block. I post his comment on the RFC to his talk page and reply to it.

I ask him to update the block log to correct the "unapologetic" remark and state that I had started deleting all personal attacks before getting blocked. Ed said he would do that. I don't think it ever happened.

Ed states: "I am frankly not sure I have any "right" to block other users at all, in situations such as you described above. Basically, I'm getting away with it because I've been around a long time,"

I tell Ed my definition of integrity. "SlimVirgin made a mistake. She made a reckless edit. And she has not done anything to get back in integrity, such as admit it, clean it up, whatever. "Yeah, that was a reckless edit. I'll be more careful next time." Instead she continues to insist that she her edit is valid and that she should be allowed to reinsert it."

Ed replies "I think I understand the integrity thing"

I withdraw my certification of the RFC to allow it to be deleted. Everyone was more concerned about me "gaming the system" or "setting up" SlimVirgin or "gaming the system" that no one actually comments on her edits. At this point, it seemed moot to attempt to push it further. The point was to get SlimVirgin to acknowledge that her edit contained errrors and that she accused some editors of things that were untrue. Instead, a wall of administrators closed ranks in her defense, attacked the RFC and those who supported it, and completely ignored her edits, the factual errors, and her unfounded accusations.

Ed comments "I don't know what you were trying to do there, but if it was anything other than harrassment, I failed to see it."

I replied that he "saw it" at one point, quoting his original endorsement of the RFC. and closed with "as you said, we're all entitled to our opinion"

Ed replied :
 * You're entitled to form whatever opinion you want, but not always to express it. There is no freedom of speech at Wikipedia in the same sense as America's First Amendment. I happen to think you're an asshole and a shit head, and that you're fucking everything up, you stupd, time-wasting bully!!! (This is inserted as an example of a forbidden comment, go ahead and complain about me if you want, but I was illustrating a point.

Here's a conversational thread from the Terri Shiavo/mediation page :
 * The problems at Terri Schiavo are the same - a strong atheist POV being pushed in the face of WP:NPOV and WP:NOR, and also in the face of being encyclopedic i.e. writing in a dry, disinterested style. SlimVirgin 18:46, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * "a strong atheist POV" Whoa, Nelly. My religious beliefs are none of your concern. Seriously. And you have no idea what you're talking about if you call me an atheist. I just happen to hold my religious beliefs to be completely personal and completely private because I don't need someone throwing it in my face. It is none of your business. FuelWagon 19:35, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Here's the aggression again. You could try saying "No, you've got that wrong." That's my perception based on your edits. But the nature of the POV is not the issue. It's the violation of policy and the vociferous nature of the arguments that cause the problem. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:11, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 * You question my religion, I tell you it's none of your business, and you call that 'aggression'? What if I had said "you edit like a Jew"? I find the remark completely insulting and prejudiced. And it's not aggression for me to say "my religion is none of you business". FuelWagon 22:14, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * It's a question of choosing the right words. SlimVirgin (talk) 22:25, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

SlimVirgin accuses me of being an atheist, when I get upset and say my religious beliefs are none of her business, she doesn't apologize, she accuses me of being 'aggressive'. You want to choose the right words? Try "I'm sorry".

Two good, hardworking editors left wikipedia as a result of this whole fiasco.

User:Duckecho, a hard working editor on the Terri Schiavo article, ended up leaving wikipedia because of this mess. His final post on his user page is visible here. He mentions SlimVirgin's behaviour on the Terri Schiavo page as a primary cause for his leaving in disgust.

User:Neuroscientist was a newer editor on the Terri Schiavo article, but his expertise as a neuroscientist was extremely valuable. He ended up leaving wikipedia as well. his last post to his user page happened soon after the SlimVirgin RFC was taken down without resolution.

why this page is here
In case anyone is wondering why I'm keeping this page around. I removed my certification of my RFC against SlimVirgin so that it would be deleted and so that it would not be used against her in the future. About a month later, I'm trying to put a warning on the RFC page and SlimVirgin keeps reverting my edits. SlimVirgin accuses me of "ad hominem" attacks, that I'm adding the warning "because of the RfC you filed." , and that "no credible editor, other than you, saw the merit in that RfC".

Since, SlimVirgin seemed to be begrudging me for my RFC against her, and since she was rewriting history, saying no one "credible" supported it, I pasted a copy of my RFC into my user space.

A few hours after I copy the RFC into my userspace, SlimVirgin asks an admin about the "appropriateness" of a deleted RFC in a user's namespace. It is clear that SlimVirgin is monitoring my contributions because I copied the page into my namespace and didn't publicize it to anyone. The only way she would see this is if she were combing through my "user contributions" history. This is similar behaviour to her notifying Ed 12 minutes after I modify my talk page. The only way she would see that is if she went out of her way looking for something. I asked her why she's got me under teh microscope.

SlimVirgin states "it seemed clear you'd started up again".

I hadn't started anything. SlimVirgin accused me of "ad hominem" attacks. when asked to point any out, she went silent but refused to withdraw teh accusation. She then accused me of putting the warning on the RFC page because "of the RFC I filed" and that no "credible" editor supported the RFC. I uploaded the RFC to my userspace to keep a record of what exactly happened. Four editors supported the RFC. Yet, SlimVirgin never withdrew her statement that no "credible" editor supported the RFC.

At this point, I feel it neccessary to keep a copy of the RFC online so that it remains part of the public record. If SlimVirgin accuses me of doing something "because of that RFC", or that no one "credible" supported it, I wanted to keep a record of what exactly happened.

SlimVirgin states "An RfC is like putting someone in the stocks. In my view, it's a horrible process, and I would only do it to POV warriors and trolls who couldn't be blocked for disruption. I've never seen good come from an RfC." . This may explain some of her reaction to my RFC against her the month prior.

SlimVirgin informs me that she can no longer assume good faith on my part. I would take that to mean she considers us to officially have a history of dispute between us, which would indicate she cannot act as a neutral admin towards me.

SlimVirgin and Ed Poor work together. .

The editor that SlimVirgin contacted said that a deleted user RfC in a user's namespace was put up for VfD and was kept. .

Bensaccount RFC
on August 22, I filed a user RFC against Bensaccount, for repeated NPOV violations. . Bensaccount makes a short response on 22 August saying he "won't bother anymore".

On 30 August, SlimVirgin says she can no longer assume any good faith of me.

Bensaccount has not contributed at all to wikipedia since his last post on the RFC over a week ago. I decide to change my certification of the RFC to "endorse" as a gesture to allow Bensaccount to come back and follow NPOV with a clean slate. On August 31, I posted to the RFC page asking an admin to delete the RFC against Bensaccount.

Although the RFC has been around for over a week with no comment or input from SlimVirgin (She had no involvement with the dispute around Bensaccount), she sees my request to delete the RFC and informs me that it "looks like another example of an inappropriate RfC filed by you," (emphassis on "another" added by me). SlimVirgin has one day prior, declared her bias against me, that she can assume no good faith on my part, and now she weighs in on an RFC that she had no history with, either on the RFC or the dispute itself, and argues for its "inappropriateness".

Another certifyer tells SlimVirgin that the RFC was legitimate and that she should "leave her baggage" with me behind. Another certifyer defends teh RFC

SlimVirgin then tries to claim the problem was a "content" issue, not about policy violation  I tell her this isn't about "content", its about NPOV policy vioaltions, and that she is biased against me, so her questioning the legitimacy of this RFC is biased.

SlimVirgin deletes my post, calling it a "personal attack". I say my post was entirely focused on her behaviour, not personal remarks. That she had publicly declared she can assume no good faith on my part, and that she should not be the admin to question the legitimacy of the RFC.

SlimVirgin deletes my second post, summarizing it with "reverting".

I then post that she is deleting comments on her BEHAVIOUR and that constitutes as suppressing criticism. Another editor tells her to stop, and the third comment finally remains.

SlimVirgin's anonymous admin says the diffs arguably qualify as meeting the RFC requirements. SlimVirgin declares she won't delete the RFC.

user RFC page
I've been trying to put some information on the user RFC page to explain what a user RFC is. SlimVirgin has inserted her own point of view into the instruction page warning editors not to take a user RFC lightly, and implying that a user RFC can "lead" to arbitration.

At one point, she takes the text I inserted and rewrites it using "however" to downplay the facts I inserted and emphasize her version of reality. I quoted wikipedia "words to avoid" which specifically says using "however" in her form is not neutral. . Three days later, SlimVirgin deletes teh entire "however" entry from the "words to avoid" page.

After posting the above to my own personal talk page, SlimVirgin says that she noticed my addition, indicating that she's watching my contributions, following me around, and contesting my edits based on me being the editor of them, rather than based on their merit.

I add the "Words to avoid" to my watchlist and notice that an editor is trying to add "Conspiracy theory" to the list of words to avoid. I agree with his point and get involved with the ensuing debate. There is a lot of resistance to adding "conspiracy theory" to the list. I keep pointing to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion article as a good example of how to use "conspiracy theory" in an article: report it as someone's point of view. People continue to object. I keep asking if anyone has an article that uses "conspiracy theory" as a fact, rather than as a POV?"

No one ever answers my question of an article that uses the term "conspiracy theory" as a fact rather than reporting it as someone's point of view, and I start poking around, looking for examples of articles that use "conspiracy theory" as fact rather than as POV.

SlimVirgin is heavily involved in the "conspiracy theory" debate. SlimVirgin mentions "the theory that Israelis and/or Jews were warned to stay away from the World Trade Center on 9/11" and whether it can be called a conspiracy theory as fact or whether it must be reported to be a conspiracytheory from someone's point of view.

Given this, I start looking for articles about Isreal knowing about the 9/11 attacks beforehand. The next day, I find the "Refusal to serve in the Israeli army" article.

In the "Refusal to serve in israeli army" article, the "Courage to Refuse" organization refers specifically to the "occupied terrirtories". SlimVirgin deletes that phrase and inserts her own POV wording.

I insert a quote from the "Courage to refuse" URL, citing their statement verbatim, which uses the term "Occupied Territories". . I also fix the intro to cite a specific example, namely the "Courage to refuse" organization, using their vocabulary, reporting their point of view. .

Jayjg reverts the entire thing back to SlimVirgin's version, calling my insertion of sourced quotations with URL's "POV pushing".

I revert, saying that "Sourced quotes do not equal POV pushing". SlimVirgin joins in the act.

SlimVirgin deletes contemporary history from Jewish article. I revert it.

SlimVirgin deletes contemporary history from christian article. I revert it.

SlimVirgin and her RfC against me
SlimVirgin's RfC against me

individual response to SlimVirgin's RfC against me

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User:Chris de Sousa

Hello. I'm a 27 year old Portuguese guy, born and raised in the Netherlands. I've made a few contributions under another IP that date back to mid-2004. My native languages are Dutch and Portuguese. I like to browse through the articles here from time to time but you probably won't see me getting super involved with Wikipedia like some do.

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Diodia

Diodia (or buttonweed) is a genus of flowering plants in the family Rubiaceae. It was described by Carl Linnaeus in 1753. The genus is found from southern and eastern United States, South America, Central America, Mexico, the West Indies and tropical Africa.

Other buttonweeds
Many species of Diodia have been transferred to a closely related genus Diodella, and therefore the name buttonweed also applies to these species. There are also many species of false buttonweeds in the related genus Spermacoce. Abutilon theophrasti in the family Malvaceae is also known by the common name of buttonweed.

Species

 * Diodia aulacosperma K.Schum. - Socotra, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania
 * Diodia barbata (Poir.) DC. - Guyana, Dominican Republic
 * Diodia barbigera Hook. & Arn. - Mexico
 * Diodia blepharophylla Standl. - Mexico
 * Diodia discolor DC. - French Guiana
 * Diodia flavescens Hiern - Angola, Zambia
 * Diodia indecora DC. - Mexico
 * Diodia kuntzei K.Schum. - Venezuela, Bolivia, Peru, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay
 * Diodia lithospermoides K.Schum. - Peru
 * Diodia macrophylla K.Schum. - Brazil, Paraguay
 * Diodia microcarpa K.Schum. ex Glaziou - Brazil
 * Diodia mitens Bello - Puerto Rico
 * Diodia othonii Rizzini - Brazil
 * Diodia paludosa Kuntze - Paraguay
 * Diodia perforata Urb. - Haiti
 * Diodia rubricosa Hiern - Ghana, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Nigeria, Sierra Leone
 * Diodia saponariifolia (Cham. & Schltdl.) K.Schum. - Central and South America
 * Diodia saponarioides C.Presl - Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay
 * Diodia scandens Benth. - Western, Central, and Eastern Africa
 * Diodia simplex Sw. - Cuba, Jamaica
 * Diodia verticillata Vahl - Brazil, Lesser Antilles
 * Diodia virginiana L. - Virginia buttonweed - south-central and south-eastern United States from Texas to Kansas, east to Florida and New Jersey; also Connecticut, Cuba and Nicaragua. Naturalized in Japan, Taiwan and northern California

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User:Gibadabmoob

Just trying to do my part.

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David Armitage Bannerman

David Armitage Bannerman OBE, MA, SD (Cantab), Hon. LL.D. (Glasgow), FRSE, FZS (27 November 1886 – 6 April 1979) was a British ornithologist. From 1919 to 1952 he was Curator of the British Museum of Natural History (now called the Natural History Museum, London).

Biography
He was the son of David Alexander Bannerman.

He was educated at Wellington College, Berkshire, before going to university.

After graduating from Pembroke College, Cambridge in 1909, Bannerman travelled extensively in Africa, the West Indies, South America and the Atlantic Islands.

Rejected on health grounds by the military, Bannerman served as a stretcher-bearer with the Red Cross for four years in France during World War I, earning the Mons Star. He was then employed, part-time, at the Natural History Museum, until his retirement in 1951, having twice declined the directorship of the British Museum. He was chairman of the British Ornithologists' Club from 1932 to 1935, having edited their Bulletin from 1914–1915 and was Vice President of the British Ornithologists Union and the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds.

He married twice: in 1911 he married Muriel Morgan(d.1945) and much later in life, in 1952, he married Winifred Mary Jane Holland.

From 1952 to 1979 he farmed in Dumfriesshire.

He also wrote for Ibis.

Contributions

 * George Lodge - Artist Naturalist John Savory (Ed.), Croom Helm, 1986 ISBN 0-7099-3366-5
 * The chapter Lodge the Man, a Biography

Notable articles

 * Exhibition and description of a new subspecies of oystercatcher (Haematopus niger meade-waldoi) from the Canary Islands. Bull. B. O. C. 31: 33–34. (1913)
 * A probable sight record of a Canarian black oystercatcher. Ibis 111: 257. (1969)

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Timothy M. Chan

Timothy Moon-Yew Chan is a Founder Professor in the Department of Computer Science at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. He was formerly Professor and University Research Chair in the David R. Cheriton School of Computer Science, University of Waterloo, Canada.

He graduated with BA (summa cum laude) from Rice University in 1992, and completed his Ph.D. in Computer Science at UBC in 1995 at the age of 19. His late mother, Miu Yung Chan, was a molecular physicist with a Ph.D. from Ohio State University.

He is currently an associate editor for SIAM Journal on Computing and the International Journal of Computational Geometry and Applications. He is also a member of the editorial board of Algorithmica, Discrete & Computational Geometry, and Computational Geometry: Theory and Applications.

Chan has published extensively. His research covers data structures, algorithms, and computational geometry.

Recognition
He was awarded the Governor General's Gold Medal (as Head of Graduating Class in the Faculty of Graduate Studies at the University of British Columbia during convocation), the NSERC doctoral prize, and the Premier's Research Excellence Award (PREA) of Ontario, Canada.

He was elected as an ACM Fellow in 2019 "for contributions to computational geometry, algorithms, and data structures".

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Chris Aguila

Christopher Louis Aguila (born February 23, 1979) is a Filipino American former Major League Baseball outfielder. He played parts of three seasons in the majors with the Florida Marlins (–) and part of the season with the New York Mets. He plays all three outfield positions.

Early life
Aguila was born to a Filipino father and a mother of Samoan, Tongan, and Fijian descent. He played high school baseball for McQueen High School in Reno, Nevada, where he set a single-season home run record. As a senior, he was a first-team High School All-American as a designated hitter.

Florida Marlins
The Florida Marlins selected Aguila as a third baseman in the third round of the 1997 MLB draft out of McQueen High School in Reno, Nevada; he had set a single-season home run record while at McQueen. Although he was initially a highly regarded prospect, he spent two seasons playing rookie ball in the Gulf Coast League and 2½ more seasons in Single-A before he was promoted to the Double-A Portland Sea Dogs. He became an outfielder during the 1999 season, when he played for the Kane County Cougars. When he started playing for Portland in 2001, he was in his fifth professional season, but was still only 22 years old. He batted .257 in 64 games with Portland. He returned to the Sea Dogs in 2002 and posted a .294 average. The Marlins switched their Double-A affiliation to the Carolina Mudcats the following year, and Aguila spent 2003 with the Mudcats, posting a .320 batting average in 93 games. It was then that Aguila once again showed his potential as a hitter, and the Marlins would invite him to their spring training in 2004.

Although Aguila did not make the Marlins' opening day roster in 2004, he impressed Marlins manager Jack McKeon, and he batted .312 for Triple-A Albuquerque. He had two stints in the Majors in 2004, paving the way for him to make the Marlins' opening day roster in 2005.

In 2005, Aguila was named the Marlins' fifth outfielder (behind Miguel Cabrera, Juan Pierre, Juan Encarnación, and Jeff Conine), but was used mainly in a pinch-hitting role. He logged only 16 at bats in the first two months of the season, and he was sent back to Albuquerque on May 27. While in Albuquerque, he regained his everyday role as the team's center fielder. He batted .351 with 7 home runs and 25 RBI in 35 games with Albuquerque, and he was promoted back to the Major Leagues on July 7, when the Marlins placed Josh Willingham on the disabled list. He spent the rest of the season in the Major Leagues, mainly as a pinch hitter; he started only 12 games all year, most of them while Encarnación was injured. He finished the 2005 season with a .244 batting average, no home runs, and 4 RBI in 78 at bats. Following the 2005 season, he played for Gigantes del Cibao in the Dominican Winter League.

Several signs pointed to Aguila's receiving more playing time in 2006. Toward the end of the season, teammate A. J. Burnett ripped Marlins manager Jack McKeon for several reasons, one of which was that McKeon gave most of the available playing time to aging veterans, rather than to younger players such as Aguila, Willingham, and Jeremy Hermida, who had proven themselves already in the minor leagues, but had not received extended playing time in the Majors. Also, Encarnación became a free agent following the 2005 season, and Juan Pierre was traded to the Chicago Cubs, so Aguila was put in a position to compete for a starting job in the Marlins' outfield in 2006. In addition, McKeon retired after the last game of the 2005 season, and the Marlins named 41-year-old Joe Girardi as his replacement.

Aguila made the Marlins' opening-day roster again in 2006. While Hermida was sidelined, Aguila got most of the at bats in right field until the Marlins signed Joe Borchard; afterwards, Aguila was part of a platoon in center field with Eric Reed and Reggie Abercrombie. (Although Willingham occasionally started at catcher, he started most of the Marlins' games in left field) Reed struggled, going 4-for-35 (.114) at the plate, and was sent down to Albuquerque. Meanwhile, Abercrombie went on an 11-game hitting streak, which further decreased the amount of playing time Aguila was receiving; Aguila started in only three of the club's next 16 games after May 3. On May 26, the Marlins acquired Cody Ross from the Cincinnati Reds for a player to be named later; to free a roster spot for Ross, they optioned Aguila to Albuquerque. During his time with the Marlins up to that point, he had batted .229 (19-for-83) with two stolen bases, seven doubles, a triple, no home runs, and seven RBI. In 13 games with Albuquerque, he batted .383 (18-for-47) with one home run (a grand slam) and drove in 13 runs, before he was recalled by the Marlins to replace Willingham, who had gone on the disabled list. After a second stint with the Marlins, he returned to Albuquerque for the rest of the Isotopes' season, where he finished the year there with a .318 batting average, 11 home runs, and 59 RBI in 77 games. After the Isotopes' season ended, the Marlins placed him back on their Major League roster. He appeared in eight games with the Marlins in September, batting 3-for-9 to raise his batting average for the year to .232. He did not start any more games for the Marlins in 2006 after returning to the majors, but he did hit 2-for-3 with a single and a double in their season-ending win against the Philadelphia Phillies. On October 13, 2006, the Marlins outrighted Aguila to Albuquerque, which removed him from their 40-man roster. Since he was out of options on his contract, he needed to make the Marlins' opening day roster in 2007 in order to remain in their organization for a 10th season.

Pittsburgh Pirates
Instead of remaining with the Marlins, he signed a minor league contract with the Pittsburgh Pirates on December 10, 2006, with an invitation to spring training. He joined the Pirates in spring training as a non-roster invitee, but did not make the team out of camp; and played for their Triple-A club, the Indianapolis Indians, where he hit (.250/.291/.360/651 in 172 at bats).

New York Mets
Aguila was signed by the New York Mets in March 2008, and he was assigned to their Triple-A team, New Orleans Zephyrs. On June 11, Aguila was called up from Triple-A New Orleans to the Major League team to replace Abraham Núñez who was designated for assignment, but he too was designated for assignment after appearing in only three games. On July 11 Aguila was again designated for assignment, and on July 15 he was sent outright to the minors.

Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks
He became a minor league free agent at the end of the season and was signed by the Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks.

Toronto Blue Jays/Philadelphia Phillies
He signed as a free agent with the Toronto Blue Jays on March 15, 2010 but after 44 games with the Las Vegas 51s, he was traded to the Philadelphia Phillies.

Florida/Miami Marlins
He rejoined the Marlins organization as a free agent on August 26, 2010. In 2011 and 2012, he played for the New Orleans Zephyrs in the Marlins system.

Fortitudo Baseball Bologna
He signed with Fortitudo Baseball Bologna of the Italian Baseball League in 2013.

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Yusuf al-Mu'taman ibn Hud

Abu Amir Yusuf ibn Ahmad ibn Hud (أبو عامر يوسف بن أحمد بن هود; died c. 1085), more commonly known as al-Mu'taman, was a mathematician, and also one of the kings of the Taifa of Zaragoza. The name al-Mu'taman is itself a shortening of his full regnal name al-Mu'taman Billah (المؤتمن بالله).

Al-Mu'taman was the third king of the Banu Hud dynasty, reigning from 1081 to 1085, at the height of power of Muslim Zaragoza, following the thriving period of his father Ahmad al-Muqtadir. He continued his father's efforts and created around him a court of intellectuals, living in the beautiful palace of Aljafería, nicknamed as "the palace of joy".

As king, Al-Mu'taman was a patron of science, philosophy and arts, and was himself a scholar of considerable accomplishment. He knew astrology, philosophy, and especially mathematics, a discipline in which he wrote the most important treatise to come out of the al-Andalus region in the 11th century, the Kitab al-Istikmal ("Book of Perfection").

Biography and Kingship
Yusuf was born on an unknown date, certainly in Zaragoza, in the palace of Aljaferia. When he ascended to the throne on the death of his father in 1081, the taifa of Zaragoza was at its peak. Al-Muqtadir divided his lands between his two sons: al-Mu'taman received the western part of the taifa with Zaragoza, Tudela, Huesca and Calatayud, while Mundhir received the coastal zone of the kingdom, including Lérida, Monzón, Tortosa and Dénia.

The first external concern of the king was the threat posed by the King of Aragon, Sancho Ramírez who aimed to extend his territories to the south, at the expense of Zaragoza. Al-Mu'taman counted on the services of the mercenary troops of the Castilian lord El Cid, who had been exiled by King Alfonso VI for conducting raids against his interests in the Taifa of Toledo, then a tributary of the king. In 1081, El Cid therefore offered his service to the king of Zaragoza, al-Muqtadir, and remained with al-Mu'taman during his reign.

Al-Mu'taman also assigned to El Cid the task of reincorporating into Zaragoza the eastern territories of his relative Mundhir, an ally of Aragon. Clashes in the border area were constant, but neither managed to reunite the paternal territory.

El Cid contained the attacks of the Aragonese until 1083, when Sancho managed to take the line of fortifications that protected Zaragoza like Graus in the east, as well as Ayerbe, Bolea, Arascués and Arguedas. El Cid served Yusuf al-Mu'tamin until 1086, when he broke his ties with Zaragoza. The circumstances in which he refused to continue serving al-Mu'tamin and his heir Ahmad II al-Mustaʿin are not fully clear and still debated.

Al-Mu'taman also tried to strengthen relations with his vassal king of Valencia, Abu Bakr, through marriage alliances. But Valencia was entangled in a complex game of alliances. Alfonso VI, skilfully using diplomacy, got al-Kadir, the king of Toledo, to hand over the city in 1085 in exchange for his help to drive Abu Bakr from Valencia, which meant, in fact, the capture of Toledo for the king of Castile. Thus, the kingdom of Zaragoza was cut off from the rest of al-Andalus, which seriously weakened its economy and made it even more vulnerable to Christian attacks. The year of the loss of Valencia was also the year of the death of Yusuf al-Mu'tamin.

Intellectual life
Although it was common practice for royals to be well educated, both al-Mu'taman and his father were exceptional mathematicians. In medieval Islam, there was a movement dedicated to the translation of ancient Greek texts, ranging from philosophy, to medicine, to astronomy, and the more influential mathematical texts. Both father and son, as well as medieval Islamic translators such as the Banu Musa were known for their expansions on ancient Greek and Roman ideals. There was a stigma in the periods following medieval Islam that Islamic scholars only copied the ancient texts, offering no intellectual addition. Later it was proven that scholars such as Ibn Qurra and al-Mu'taman offered their own input and original contributions beyond their transmission of ancient ideas.

Mathematics
The main work of al-Mu'taman was his Kitab al-Istikmal (Book of Perfection). This book was a compendium of the Greek mathematics of Euclid and Archimedes among others, but also contained the teachings of Thabit ibn Qurra, the Banu Musa and Ibn al-Haytham, and included some theorems and proofs not found in earlier extant sources. The book only persists as fragments from several anonymous manuscripts, not including any preface or introduction, but it is clear from the remaining content that the intention was to organize and comprehensively describe the known results in Euclidean geometry in a single self-contained work. It is possible al-Mu'taman listed his sources in a now-lost introductory section, but none of the remaining fragments credit past authors or works for any of the content.

The Kitab al-Istikmal was not completed but it was still seen as an important work from the eleventh-century king. The encyclopedist Ibn al-Akfani said that had the Istikmal been completed, it would have made the existing geometrical literature superfluous. Ibn Aknin suggested that the Istikmal should be read by mathematicians alongside such works as the Elements of Euclid, On the Sphere and Cylinder of Archimedes, and Conics of Apollonius. Because this was not a completed piece of work it was never as widely copied or taught as the works of Euclid or Archimedes. A copy was sent to Egypt by Maimonides, and from there it spread to Baghdad in the 14th century, but did not directly influence later European mathematicians.

The Kitab al-Istikmal deals with irrational numbers, conic sections, quadrature of the parabolic segment, volumes and areas of various geometric objects, and the drawing of the tangent to a circle, among other mathematical problems. In the work appears an attempt to classify mathematics into Aristotelian categories. The classification includes a chapter for arithmetic, two chapters for geometry and two others for stereometry.

The Kitab al-Istikmal contains the first known formulation of Ceva's theorem, which only became known in Europe after 1678 from Italian geometer Giovanni Ceva's treatise De lineis rectis. It is unknown whether Al-Mu'taman discovered this theorem himself or obtained it from another source, and it is also unknown whether Ceva rediscovered the theorem independently. The theorem can be stated as follows: "Let ABC be a triangle and D, E, F points on the sides BC, CA, and AB. We draw the lines AD, BE and CF. These three lines intersect at one point if and only if $$\frac{AF}{FB}=\frac{EA}{CE}\frac{DC}{BD}$$.

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Skjomen

or is a small fjord that branches off from the main Ofotfjorden in Narvik Municipality in Nordland county, Norway. It is located in the Ofoten district in Northern Norway, just south of the town of Narvik. The European route E6 highway crosses the Skjomen fjord over the Skjomen Bridge, just south of the mouth of the fjord.

Skjomdalen
A sheltered valley called "Skjomdalen" extends southward from the end of the fjord. The valley is inhabited by approximately 400 people. The population is spread out over several very small villages in the valley, with the largest being Elvegård which functions as a very small service centre for the valley. One of the world's northernmost 18 hole golf courses is located in Elvegård, near the fjord. Skjomen Church sits along the shore of the fjord in Elvegård.

Name
The name "Skjomen" was originally called Skieffa or Skievva in the 15th century. This is a name from the Northern Sami language that is believed to mean "Sea". The Sami people are a nomadic people living among others in the mountains of Sweden and Norway in the wintertime and traveling to the sea at springtime. In this case traveling to Skieffa (sea) or Skjomen.

History
Skjomen has a site of about 80 rock carvings near the sea. They consist of animal figures including reindeer, whales and moose as well as a human figure holding a reindeer in straps. The rock carvings are believed to have been made by the mesolithic Fosna-Hensbacka culture dating from around 5000 BC. The rock carvings were discovered in the 1930s.

For a short period, German battleship Tirpitz hid beneath the extremely steep mountains surrounding the fjord to avoid attack by allied warplanes during World War II.

Geography
Skjomen is known for its scenic landscape with high, steep mountains, and clear water. Skjomtind, Reintind, and Klubbviktind are three of the many beautiful mountains surrounding the fjord. The highest point around Skjomen is the 1894 m tall mountain Storsteinfjell. The Frostisen glacier, which is one of the larger plateau glaciers in Norway is located just west of the fjord. Frostisen covers an area of about 25 km2 and it is located at an elevation of 1710 to 840 m above sea level.

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