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Talk:San Sebastián

1813
Some points: Somebody said in the article: 1813--British and Portuguese troops siege San Sebastian and eventually defeat French occupying troops. After being welcome by the inhabitants, newcomers burn the city down.

Are you sure they were welcome? So How Can you Explain newcomers burn the city? there is a explanation for that question. In 1793 Gipuzkoa decided don´t be Spain, if not an french allied and independent country. It was decided in Getaria and promoted by diferent basque-french people. It was named "Republica de Guipuzcoa" (Gipuzkoan republic). And Navarre did organise a "Junta" to do the same, but finally it wasn´t possible, because army wnt inside of the "junta". Donostia was pro-french in napoleonic times too, and in general native population defend the city against british and portuguese. There are letters between british army and general board of the army sayin how difficult will be to defeat San Sebastian because inhabitants support french army.

Statue
Re: the photo with caption "Statue of Jesus on Urgull Mountain" -- I was told by a local that the statue was not of Jesus.
 * Its name is statue of "Sacred Heart." --JoulSauron 20:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm fairly sure the statue is of Jesus and I visit the city every year. Bluepaladin

You both are partially right, it is "Jesus´ Sacred Heart"

Excessive Pics
Do we really need so many pictures, and if so couldn't we spread them through the article, or put them into a gallery?? Discuss, DannyM 17:34, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Pictures rearranged, I suggest to make them smaller but it doesn´t look too bad at the moment.David 12:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

San Sebastian Redirect
Donostia is not the only San Sebastian in the world. Kindly allow this to go to the disambiguation page first. 207.67.132.210 17:27, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Donostia- San Sebastian
Donostia is basque language and San Sebastián is spansih, so the correct use of the template is to put Donostia in the "native name" field and San Sebastián in the "spanish name" field. Besides, the box renders better using the fields correctly, the former Donostia-San Sebastián thing was too wide, it destroyed the layout of the infobox. David 12:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Map is wrong
I'm fairly certain the map is wrong - San Sebastian is a lot closer to the French Border. The red dot on the map seems to be Santander. 86.128.38.60 18:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)Alasdair

Requested move (2007)

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PAGE MOVED per discussion below and our naming convention on common names. It seems to be agreed that San Sebastián is the most common name in English language sources. -GTBacchus(talk) 21:49, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Donostia → San Sebastián — Per WP:NC, which states "In the absence of a common English name, the current local name of the city should be used." I would contend that, although Donostia is official within the Basque Region, its common English name is San Sebastián. As evidence, I present a fact and an assertion. The fact is that searching with Google for English-only results, we get 1.3 million for "San Sebastian" (admittedly not all in Spain) and 363,000 for "Donostia". My assertion is that insofar as the town is famous outside Spain, it is for the festival, which is known by its Spanish name, and for featuring in Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises, where he also uses the Spanish name. —Biruitorul 21:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Survey

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 * Support a move to San Sebastián per nomination (except for the Google test). Donostia-San Sebastián, the official name, is a possibility albeit a hideous one. —   AjaxSmack     05:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I actually don't see any significant problem in having the article at the entity's official name, Donostia-San Sebastián. It's the Real World solution which no doubt has been adopted to circumvent precisely this naming dispute. I would support moving to the official name.--cjllw ʘ  TALK 12:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - yes, that could work, but San Sebastián, without Donostia, is the common name in English. Biruitorul 16:17, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Support Preferably without the accent/diacritical, which is not normally used in English. This is a well-known town as San Sebastian - I had never heard of Donostia. I also remember in the protracted discussions at Guernica some time ago, strong supporters of Gernika-Lumo saying that of course they would never dream of using the local version for well-known places like San Sebastian! Johnbod 15:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - well, I don't think the accent is such a big deal. For instance most English speakers probably refer to "Orleans", but they readily grasp it's the same thing as Orléans. There's no way to tell from the words themselves that Donostia and San Sebastián are the same, but San Sebastián and San Sebastian are basically the same, plus the former is correct in Spanish. However, I wouldn't strongly object to its omission. Biruitorul 16:17, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Oppose Donostia is also widely used. I would support moving to Donostia-San Sebastián though (a name not unlike Vitoria-Gasteiz). If moved, the diacritic must by all means be placed on "San Sebastián, for the sake of primordial encyclopedic accuracy.-- Hús  ö  nd  01:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - ah, but where is it also widely used? Not in the Anglophone world, as far as I know. At least not as widely as San Sebastián. Biruitorul 06:54, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support move to Donostia–San Sebastián I agree that San Sebastián is more common in English. But people who are careful about geographical names seem to use Donostia–San Sebastián. This is the official name, as ugly as it is, and when you're treading on eggshells, it's best to stick to that. I found this in a text of the UNGEGN (UN Group of Experts on Geographical Names). It's in French (although ideally it would have been nice to have it in English), and uses Donostia–San Sebastián despite the fact that the French name Saint-Sébastien (which is only a few miles from France after all) is much more common in French than San Sebastian or San Sebastián is in English: Du 12 au 16 juin dernier, s’est déroulé à Donostia−San Sebastián, au Pays Basque espagnol, un stage de formation en toponymie. So if that's what toponymists write, it's good enough for me. I also agree that the accent should be used. Note: though the name should be spelt with an en-dash in the body of the article, if the title is hyphenated it should be with a hyphen-minus. Joeldl 18:19, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's fine, if you're happy to ignore WP policy completely! Johnbod 18:59, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, we can say that the hyphenated form is the form used by toponymists at the UNGEGN. Since we're supposed to give more weight to what the experts do, it makes sense to look at them. More generally, it makes sense to look at what people do when they are very well informed and are making an effort to be perceived as neutral. It seems plausible that in those cases Donostia–San Sebastián is most common. You can do a search for +UNGEGN +"San Sebastian" and +UNGEGN +Donostia. There's an example in Estonian too. As has been mentioned previously, it's the official name. Even in Spanish you'll see Donostia–San Sebastián. This official list of mayors in Spain (written in Spanish) says, "See Donostia–San Sebastián," at the entry for "San Sebastián". Joeldl 19:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:NCGN says "The title: When a widely accepted English name, in a modern context, exists for a place, we should use it." That's all we need to know. Johnbod 22:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Precisely. No offense, Joeld, but when I saw reference to UNGEGN, my eyes began to glaze over. What concerns us here is common English usage. Biruitorul 06:54, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Strong Support Most common English names should be used. And I would go for San Sebastian, since the tilde is a Spanish spelling, not needed in the English version of the name. David 20:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Donostia-San Sebastián is the official name of the city in both Spanish and Basque, whereas "San Sebastián" is the old, unofficial Spanish-only name. I think people are only calling the city San Sebastián because traditionally the Spanish name was predominant. I don't think its particularly correct to enforce this in Wikipedia, considering that "Donostia-San Sebastián" is not only more neutral and inclusive but also the official name in both languages of the city. I would thus support a move to Donostia-San Sebastián. Ronline ✉ 06:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Based on our Odorheiu Secuiesc discussion, perhaps I should support this, but the difference is that while nearly no one in the English-speaking world knows about Odorheiu Secuiesc in any of its variants, so it has no common name in English, English speakers do know about this town, and they know it as San Sebastián. Biruitorul 06:54, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I had never I think heard of Odorheiu Secuiesc under any name though I know both Romania & Hungary a lot better than most English-speakers. I notice the official town tourism website uses "San Sebastian", only, and without the accent, in the English version. "Saint Sébatien-Donostia" in the French, etc.  Johnbod 07:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Discussion
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 * Note to closing admin: if the eventual outcome is to move the article, then there's a prior cut and paste move which should probably be repaired, in or before doing so. It appears that this article was formerly at San Sebastián, until some anon nearly two years ago cut and paste the contents to this present title, Donostia (see cut, paste). Both have non-trivial edit histories. In fact, even were the article to remain where it is, this cut'n'paste should be fixed up.--cjllw ʘ  TALK 01:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
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1936
In July 1936 the right-wing military coup, at least in Saint Sebastian, was held at bay and quelled basically by the Anarchists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 10:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was page not moved —harej (talk) 23:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

San Sebastián → Donostia-San Sebastián — Since San Sebastian is a disambiguation, I think that San Sebastián should redirect there. San Sebastian and San Sebastián are both used to find the same articles, and should lead to the same page. As for disambiguation, there is no reason why this San Sebastián is more notable than any other. Additionally, to reduce confusion, the article should be named after the city's official name, Donostia-San Sebastián. -M.Nelson (talk) 23:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Support that definitely makes sense. 70.29.212.226 (talk) 05:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Support absolutely, it is very clear! David (talk) 07:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I support this but we may run into trouble, we had a similar discussion at Vitoria-Gasteiz to move it from Vitoria, Spain and didn't get anywhere. Akerbeltz (talk) 08:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "As for disambiguation, there is no reason why this San Sebastián is more notable than any other." - apart from the fact that this one is significantly more populous and well-known than the others - read WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. There's a reason Paris doesn't point to  Paris (disambiguation) just because of Paris, Idaho.
 * "Additionally, to reduce confusion, the article should be named after the city's official name" - no, to reduce confusion, the article should be named according to its most common name in English-language texts - read WP:OFFICIALNAMES and WP:COMMONNAMES.
 * Encarta uses San Sebastián, Britannica uses Donostia-San Sebastián, Columbia uses San Sebastián. Pending evidence of the predominant use of Donostia-San Sebastián in English-language texts, there is no option but to oppose this proposal. Knepflerle (talk) 11:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

 * Comment: the Puerto Rico one and San Sebastián de los Reyes in Madrid are fairly important ones, and deserve the same level of disambiguation I'm affraid, so I guess the proposal has some point indeed. Besides, San Sebastián (with tilde) is not English... it should be St. Sebastian. David (talk) 11:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No it shouldn't. Los Angeles isn't English either, but we don't translate it into The Angels unless it's common usage in English. I have yet to see the source that uses "St. Sebastian" to refer to this city. Jafeluv (talk) 20:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose per reasoning at previous move: San Sebastián is the name whereby the town is known in English. Searching with Google for English-only results, we get 4.9 million for "San Sebastian" (admittedly not all in Spain) and 1.3 million for "Donostia". Moreover, insofar as the town is famous outside Spain, it is for the festival, which is known by its Spanish name, and for featuring in Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises, where he also uses the Spanish name. - Biruitorul Talk 03:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. While I find Biruitorul's Google counts unconvincing, and I wouldn't really care if the move proposal succeeded, if we adhere to WP:Use English and WP:COMMONNAMES, I'm forced to oppose it.  The city is not generally called "Donostia-San Sebastián" in English, whatever its official name may be.  The official name of France is "République française" or "French Republic", but we don't have the page on France titled "French Republic".--Atemperman (talk) 05:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose move to "Donostia-San Sebastián", as that double name would infringe our general naming conventions and the specific ones for geographic names: as far as I'm aware, this double form is not the one the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize, the one commonly used in English language publications. Regarding the issue of disambiguation, in English this city would appear to be the primary topic. - Best, Ev (talk) 17:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Looking at the page views for the pages listed at San Sebastian, it seems that this page is far more popular than all the others. Here are some statistics: This page had 12935 views last month, and the closest competitor, San Sebastián, Puerto Rico had 1167 views. All the other uses had less than 1,000 views. Saint Sebastian is a popular page (8649 views), but I don't think all that many people who search for "San Sebasti(a/á)n" are looking for St. Sebastian. I would suggest moving San Sebastian to San Sebastian (disambiguation) and redirecting that page here, reflecting primary usage. Jafeluv (talk) 09:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

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Latest serial edits

 * Not really a good period of the year to start over again with an old barren time consuming discussion, is it? Please if any edits are to be made stick to detail and not like the latest ones based on vague general ideas. The latest edits are not contributing anything, but disrupting, and as it happens they are even inacurate or gratuitous, like deleting city festival subsections for one. I don't know if you, Generalpotato, happen to be the first editor, but looks to me almost all of them are one purpose edits with little grounds. Iñaki LL (talk) 21:42, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

 * This is not about wasting time, it's about making the article better. The fact that you don't like the changes doesn't mean that they are not good or necessary. I don't care if it's Christmas, Santa Ageda or El Pilar. Let's discuss them, one by one:
 * 1) New reference to Spain: "The city is in the north of Spain, in the Basque Country, on the southern coast of the Bay of Biscay.". Due to the fact that in that part the article describes the general location of San Sebastian, I think it's appropriate to make a reference to Spain, the country, rather to the Basque Country, whose borders are less well known by international wikipedia readers. However, and if that helps to agree about the changes I've just made, I'm ready to accept your version, without any reference to Spain in that line.

 * 2) Donostia or San Sebastián? The Estación del Norte train station standing right across the bridge was inaugurated in 1864 just after the arrival of the railway to San Sebastián, with its metallic shelter being designed by Gustave Eiffel. I think it's necessary to use more often the most common name in English, and the name of the article, San Sebastián, rather than Donostia. Wikipedia must reflect the reality, not try to change it, therefore it's necessary to make things easier using more often the name of the city the best known internationaly. However, I accept also to mantain Donostia, to help to get to an agreement.

 * 3) Konstituzio Plaza: At midnight, in the Plaza de la Constitución/Konstituzio plaza (Constitution Square), in the "Alde Zaharra/Parte Vieja" (Old Part), the mayor raises the flag of San Sebastián (see in the infobox). No logical reason to write the Basque name and not the Spanish one. Moreover, the people of the city use normally, much more often, the Spanish name. Both versions should appear.

 * 4) Olentzero and Santa Ageda: This is not an article about the Basque culture, but about the specific city of San Sebastian. Olentzero and Santa Ageda are general aspects of the Basque Country, and they are not particularly linked to or traditional in Donostia. Should we write a reference to them in the articles of all the Basque cities and villages? I strongly defend that we remove them.

 * 5) El Peine del Viento: as everybody who knows this city knows, the only popular name of the sculptures, and the name used by the author himself, Eduardo Chillida, is Peine del Viento, in Spanish. I would even reject putting both versions, as the only popular one is the Spanish name.

 * As you see, I accept to leave some aspects as they are now, but I firmly defend some small changes. Generalpoteito (talk) 03:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, please don't change edits until the discussion comes to a termination. I think you've missed a point in your explanation above (the 1813 events). I'll address that first:
 * 0) The city was not ransacked and burned down by the English, but the Portuguese and English troops, allied with Spain at this stage of the Peninsular War. Both statements are equally right: they were Anglo-Portuguese and they were the allied forces of Spain.
 * 1) The new reference to Spain is not necessary, it's clear stated at the beginning (infobox too) as well as the reference to the Spanish administrative region (the autonomous community), I see no point in adding it, it can only raise suspicion about the final intention of the repetition. There would be no point in adding time and again Basque Country either, looks like there's is a hidden, ideological drive.
 * 2) The San Sebastián/Donostia issue was discussed before. Not only San Sebastián was chosen (I don't agree myself, didn't participate there unaware of its being taking place), but in a way it was decided to rule out the naming pair, as it has been in so many other articles for the purpose of clarity and shortness. I'm not meddling with that naming issue again anyway, time consuming for the technical and content contributors of the Wikipedia, let it be so. I'm willing to accept this change if Donostia is not totally rejected from text. Donostia is recognised internationally too (maybe because of the signs and maps) and helps disambiguation, besides reflecting what the locals often call the city and a dynamic and conspicuous cultural and social reality.
 * 3) The same, the whole article, this and others, could be full of these pairs. Someone changed the main subsection name Old Part to Parte Vieja (Spanish language use). I don't agree, this is a descriptive name (could be Old Quarter too...) typical in most of the towns/cities. Alde Zaharra may well be as valid as Parte Vieja (Basque language use). However, as far as I see it there's a point in not being all the time edit warring on naming, I decided not to undo it. The naming is pretty balanced now, I strongly oppose the pairs as a general practice.
 * 4) This is a clear-cut point, the section is much about the festive calendar of the city. It gives an account of the festive events (not passive ones actually) whoever goes to the city may encounter. Olentzero is a milestone and popular festival in the city, celebrated in many places of the Basque Country (but not all) and with a strong presence in the city. El Pilar is a Spanish bank holiday in the labour official calendar, but that doesn't exclude it from being mentioned in Zaragoza. The deletion is depriving the readers of city-specific information. More clear so about Saint Agatha, not everywhere in the Basque Country is celebrated, it is recognised as being a Donostiarra festival and it's not an official day of the Basque Country (in whatever sense you want).
 * 5) Yes in Spanish. The sculptor seems to have been strong on calling it Haizeen orrazia, the original and current name. The name in English is the "Comb of the Winds" and this is the English wikipedia. I'm not saying anyway that sometimes a Spanish name shouldn't be mentioned (for whatever it is), since it may be widely recognisable in that language. Do it in good faith and things may run smoothly. Iñaki LL (talk) 22:45, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

 * It's pretty clear that there's an ideological element in this discussion, and, in my opinion, the ideologically most influenced point of view is yours, because:

 * It's completely false that Eduardo Chillida used the name Haizeen orrazia. In the website of the Chillida Leku Museum there's a list of the sculptures located in public spaces. http://www.museochillidaleku.com/index.php?id=153&tx_ttnews[cat]=29&L=2 You can find them in their original names. Some are originally in Basque, and the Basque name is used in all the versions of the website (for example Begirari IV), and some others have originally a Spanish name: Peine del Viento XV. http://www.museochillidaleku.com/Detalle-Obra-Publica-eu.154.0.html?&no_cache=1&L=2&tx_ttnews[cat]=29&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=192&tx_ttnews[backPid]=153 Therefore, the Basque name must be removed and just the Spanish one should appear.

 * Olentzero and Santa Ageda are not specific festivals from San Sebastian, and shouldn't appear. Euskal Jaiak, Semana Grande or Tamborrada are, and they must appear. Pretty simple. If you want, we could include a reference at the beginning of the Culture and events section, like "additionally, the city hosts some traditional Basque festivals, such as Olentzero in Christmas and Santa Ageda, that it shares with many villages of Guipuscoa".

 * To get to an agreement I accept maintaining the other aspects.Generalpoteito (talk) 13:14, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Well, you came here to just touch a sensitive issue and a previously tackled with, like the naming. Obviously each contributor leaves their personal slant, I'm leaving mine, you leave yours in the articles you contribute or draw up, but common sense must prevail, for sure. However, landing into articles to leave one's ideological mark or national view is not welcome

 * *Listen, I don't have set views about Chillida's sculpture. I have read quite a lot of times that he decided to call it "Haizeen orrazia" on purpose. I would say the original text is in Spanish and the translator to English has just stuck to the Spanish name... Anyway, if their website or family decide now to call it otherwise I won't turn this thing into my battleground, so let's move on.
 * *It is quite clear-cut that these are local versions (explained with quite a detail in each subsection) of a festival celebrated in other places too but that doesn't deduct ANYTHING from the specific nature of the festival in the city, who owns even its own Olentzero song ("Olentzero begi gorri... Zurriolako arroketan"). That there is a Christian saint St. Mary doesn't prevent towns from having their own St. Mary festival that may stand out over that of other cities, carnival applies to almost all places but Rio and other cities are quite special. Well, Santa Ageda is not celebrated everywhere and it is celebrated and cherished in the city, so I find its a forced attempt the deletion of these subsections.

 * To sum up, I'm willing to accept the Donostia you mentioned replaced by San Sebastián and Chillida's sculpture into an English or Spanish version name. The remaining points have strong proper grounds to stay unaltered.

Greatest Density of Bars
I recall being told that "San Sebastian has the greatest density of bars in the world, much like Hong Kong has the greatest density of restaurants" and it seems plausible, but I don't know if that's either correct, nor how it would be measured (by area/population ?). No idea where you might find a reference to confirm it, but I thought I'd mention it. EdwardLane (talk) 10:19, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Language!
You really need to add the fact that Euskera is spoken a lot here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.33.208.250 (talk) 10:42, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Edits in San Sebastián

 * Might help improve discussion if you look this entire section over, before commenting on any of it. Lentower (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lentower, I saw your edits on the article. As a main contributor to the page, it took me somewhat by surprise the citation needed tags that frankly I don´t understand. Usually when someone adds such a tag, it is because s/he has something to doubt about. You added three in row, to sentences that don´t state anything especial. However, perhaps I'm wrong, you specialize in the topic, and have good grounds to doubt them. Please let me know, I look fwd to your reply. Regards Iñaki LL (talk) 09:53, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

 * For an article of it's length, this one has very few citations. Generally each paragraph should have at least one citation.

 * I didn't have the time to review the entire article for text that needed citations. In this section on Food, those three spans of text, are things that should be cited. They are claims attributed to a source without supplying a cite to the source, that allows the claim to be easily verfied. Note WP:V and other policies & guidelines.

 * Also phrases like "most recent", should not be used on Wikipedia. A date should be given. If the text could change in the future, the Template:Asof should be used. The reason is that the age of the info is then exactly clear to the reader.

 * If you have to, please reply here, I look at my Watchlist most days. best - Lentower (talk) 11:05, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

 * I looked at this Food section, because one of the text spans I marked had been added on Tuesday with no citation. I hoped the editor who added that text could easily add the citation. Lentower (talk) 15:15, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Hi again, ideally sentences and paragraphs should have citations. However, we are not professionals and that's why in the wikipedia there are loads of articles without citations. The credit of the information relies on the verisimilitude, exposure to public (refutability), and consistency of the data, and are subject to change as we all contributors now. Many info relies on first-hand knowledge and that doesn´t mean is bad information. I expect that when someone adds a citation tag s/he has some leads to think that the info in question is not so, especially when it's three citations needed in a row. The data provided here are not exact figures, just pretty approximative. I may have better understood that you added a tag for the statement asserting that "it's the city with the most Michelin stars per square foot", since that's a very specific and "big" claim. So what's the point? I don´t see the point. By the way, I summarized and organized the info included on this section, but I didn´t add most of the info. Regards Iñaki LL (talk) 15:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Much of what you said here goes against WP policies & guidelines. First-hand knowledge is against WP policies & guidelines. Though you are entitled to your expectation, adding requests for citations can be done whenever the text requires it; the way to remove one is to add the citation. It should be easy enough to get a copy of the Michelin guide, and add the citations involving that. Thanks, I just added a 4th. The other point of adding these tags is to let the reader know that the uncited info doesn't meet WP guidelines. We owe our readers the best encyclopedia we can create, and that includes citations. It would be better for this article to be shorter but fully cited, than it's present state. I suggest you spend some time reading the guidelines before you go back to editing. Start with WP:N, WP:V, & WP:RS; and go on from there. It be best for WP and this article, if you fully cited it, before any other editing. Lentower (talk) 23:20, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Ah yet another example of someone applying a very narrow ruleset to the letter, well done Lentower. Look around you... this encyclopedia is FULL of unrefd information and while of course having refs is better, the reality is that it only becomes a critical issue when the information is making tall claims or controversial. If you tagged all unreffed info on WP, the tags would outnumber the content 2:1 I'd bet... or even worse, if you removed it, it would probably collapse into 1/3 of its size. Why do the hard thing and chase vandals when you can drive by tag... Akerbeltz (talk) 01:39, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Stop making changes, we are talking, you know...? First of all, I didn't object to your bringing the discussion here, and I don´t object to avoiding talk page switching, but for reasons of traceability and clarity, if someone posts in your talk page don´t copy - paste and transfer discussion to another place, someone may think you are trying to hide something, and doesn´t help building trust. Secondly, you are showing little regard for this discussion and the WP guidelines by further editing without finishing it. Be contributive, if you think there are dubious statements edit them and add the corrected information with an explanation, and preferably a citation. Three citations in a row without claiming a inaccuracy is WP:POINT, and are just disrupting with indiscriminate edits. The article would benefit from more citations? Yes. Does it have citations? Yes. You might as well carry on your "polishing" pursuit by adding citation needed and improve tags in most of the articles on cities of France and Spain, congratulations, thanks for your contribution Iñaki LL (talk) 09:05, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I have been clear about some of the problems in this section in my replies above. I'll probably add a few more tags in a few days.

A few more points. I've separate them into signed paragraphs, so replies can be right after them and this talk page section more focused. Lentower (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

 * For example, reply here

In the time it took to write the replies above, one of those editors more experienced, than me, with the article and the city should have been able to add one or more of the requested citations. That would have benefited the readers much more than all this Talk Page posting. Lentower (talk) 15:46, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

 * For example, reply here

If one is mentioning a source, e.g. the Michelin guide, it is easy to add a citation. You either have the guide in front of you, or have gotten if from another source you have at hand, which you can easily reference. This makes the policy WP:V possible for readers and much easier for editors. Lentower (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

 * For example, reply here

For a source, like the Michelin guide, that has many editions, you need to include which edition for the policy WP:V. Quite clear if you add the reference. Lentower (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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A source doesn't have to be perfectly formatted to be added. For example

is enough. Lentower (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

 * For example, reply here

This section and much of the article has issues with the WP:NPOV policy. It's written in the manner that a government or business association tourist promotion agency would market the city to potential visitors. Glowing non-neutral language promoting and marketing the city, which is against WP's policies & guidelines. We owe WP's readers the negatives, as well as the positives, presented in a neutral writing style. Adding citations would also help resolved these WP:NPOV issues. Lentower (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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There is nothing wrong with tags being in an article - article, section, and inline tags. In the short run, they inform the readers that there is an issue with the article. In the longer run, as the issue is fixed, the article and WP are improved. Lentower (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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The fact that WP's policies & guidelines are not followed elsewhere, is not a reason for an editor to not follow them. This is stated in quite a few places in the Project_namespace, not only in the policies & guidelines, but in essays & elsewhere. Lentower (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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You don't need to be a professional to find sources, as Iñaki LL (talk) seems to imply above. There is much help in how to find and format references in the Project_namespace. You just have to spend a little time to learn how, which is time well-invested, as it helps WP and our readers alot. Here are three aids to help find sources to reference (they have some overlap).

Someone else might copy one or more to the header at the top of this page. Lentower (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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The WP policies & guidelines have evolved over more than a decade since WP was founded in 2001. By hundred of thousands of editors. They are not a very narrow ruleset as Akerbeltz (talk) wrote above. All editors are expected to follow them, especially the policies. If you don't wish to do so, you should go edit elsewhere, perhaps starting an encyclopedia of your own. You could also try to change and improve them. If you haven't read any of these WP policies below, please do so. it will help you make WP even better.

Lentower (talk) 15:46, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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In my experience, this article is quite under referenced. Another editor's experience could go either way. I'm not aware of any reliable source on this, of what the reference count per 1000 words is over the entire encyclopedia, and how an article rates against against all articles. Writing the robot, or making changes in the WP server software to do this has a lot of subtle issues, and would put more load on the servers. This different in editor's experience is far less important. that the issues concerning the policies & guidelines. Lentower (talk) 15:46, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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Where I used "guidelines" above, I should have used "policies & guidelines". I have corrected that. Lentower (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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There are other points raised above, which are quite peripheral to the WP issues about the section. I'll leave them unanswered for now. I expect what I would say to them is fairly clear anyway. Lentower (talk) 17:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

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 * Good grief, all that text... if folk like you spent less time droning on about the policies as if they were statutory law and edited content instead, Wikipedia would be a whole lot better. We really need to change the tagline from the free ecyclopedia that anyone can edit to ''...that anyone can edit as long as they've spent 4 months on a course of reading reams of policy. Get some common sense, Lentower. Akerbeltz (talk) 20:16, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

 * When I got my account, an intro showed up on my talk page inviting me to read the policies. It took me about 40 minutes to read the three core content policies and five other content policies. Not a lot of time. I learned alot that has helped me edit WP for the many years I've been editing here.
 * Otherwise, what you wrote just above is repetitive of what you wrote before, and I see no reason to repeat myself, as I have already answered you. Lentower (talk) 07:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Lentower, thanks for the resources provided but sorry this sounds like a lecture on WP philosophy and general policy, I would appreciate you go straight to the point, underline the weaknesses wherever there are by trying to improve them, instead of shouldering the burden of your hygienic pursuit on others. Wikipedia encourages people to edit and contribute, not to discourage editors. I have been in Wikipedia for quite a long time, and I do know what an excellent article is, what a good article is, and what a bad article is. Actually it takes quite of an effort to get an excellent article, which doesn´t dismiss other articles not living up to that level, remember that they are the bulk of the wikipedia. So I will insist, get to the point, taking an article and filling it with ref needed tags is WP:DISRUPT, and I will take them just as that. Your POV claim is unfounded as far as I am concerned, so I will just insist, get to the point and try to improve it. May I add, this article is no worse than the average of other wikipedia articles on towns and cities, in fact I think it's pretty descriptive and informative, while admittedly it would benefit from more contributions and references.
 * I won´t extend further, you seem to be very guideline conscious, but you are not sticking to them as refers WP:Talk page guidelines. Honestly the layout of your comment above comes across as pretty peculiar and its extension doesn´t add to its readability. Iñaki LL (talk) 21:45, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

 * My overall guiding principle is: Do what's best to develop an encyclopedia for the readers. Beyond that, I am very conscious of the WP policies, they are what define an encyclopedia. The guidelines are not as well developed, and contradict themselves in places.
 * WP:DISRUPT clearly does not apply here.
 * Otherwise, what you wrote just above is repetitive of what you wrote before, and I see no reason to repeat myself, as I have already answered you. Lentower (talk) 07:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Ok, you made your point. I sorted out a bit your mess and trimmed the citation overkill. Clearly you have taken this article and the section in question to illustrate a point (WP:DISRUPTPOINT) irrespective of the very content and information conveyed, and put the burden on others, instead of expressing reasonable doubts on specific pieces of information, and/or adding it yourself to improve the article. However admittedly the article overall has a low citation rate, so I added some to enhance the article and settle the thing. I may add some more in the coming weeks. Iñaki LL (talk) 10:53, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Glad you are making content changes that improve the Food and other sections in this article. (Throughout this discussion, I have done so elsewhere on WP, in areas where I have much more expertise and experience). Though you are entitled to your opinion, tagging as I did does not make a mess. I explained above how I came to add these tags earlier, and it wasn't Lentower (talk) 12:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

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Small?
Is it really a small city, as it is said in the introduction? I don't consider it as such.--85.23.98.247 (talk) 17:24, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Repeated removal of sourced information
Hi Oshwah, Iñaki LL, Kgfleischmann, you have all reverted Anon User:80.246.136.72 (and before that other anon IPs) bizarrely removing the same seemingly-uncontroversial information over and over, without engaging in any explanation or discussion. What are the options in this case? Jdcooper (talk) 10:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Jdcooper - The article is now semi-protected in order to stop the repeated removal of content by anonymous users.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   10:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok cool, thanks. Jdcooper (talk) 10:25, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

 * Thanks Oshwah, it looks to me it is a tantrum derived from reverts in another article (spin-off). Iñaki LL (talk) 10:36, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Notable people
I think the list is too long and poorly defined: Who counts as "notable"? (the mother of a former president of Mexico? a porn star?) What relation to San Sebastian is needed (born there? lived major part of life there? did major work there?) Don't Juan Mari Arzak, Daniel Innerarity, Pedro Miguel Echenique belong on the list? Do bands belong on a list of "people"? Should one structure the list according to field within which the persons were/are notable (sport/science/politics/literature/...)? Wouldn't it make sense to limit the list here to the, say, the 20 most notable ones and create a List of people from San Sebastián for the complete listing? --Qcomp (talk) 16:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Phonetic representation
, : Can you please stop edit warring and discuss your disagreement here? Largoplazo (talk) 11:08, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

 * I've added the stress mark to the Basque IPA page, should resolve the issue. But seriously ... Akerbeltz (talk) 11:19, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It does not resolve the issue. Per MOS:PRON, section Other languages, you have not gone through all of the relevant Basque transcriptions and added the stress marks there, so now the situation is even worse than it was. I've created a discussion on Help talk:IPA/Basque. Sol505000 (talk) 14:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a non-issue you have created, you have started removing relevant information based on some legalistic interpretation of the MOS and you're expecting other people to pick up the pieces. Nice try. Akerbeltz (talk) 11:48, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * There's a discussion waiting for you on Help talk:IPA/Basque. Your manipulative interpretation of me citing MOS:PRON is not going to make the issue go away. And the issue is: transcriptions linking to Help:IPA/Basque have to agree with the guide and vice versa. You don't get to change 3 transcriptions, then the guide and pretend everything's fine. We have far more than 3 IPA transcriptions of Basque that link to the guide on WP. I strongly suggest that you start engaging with me on Help talk:IPA/Basque. Sol505000 (talk) 15:02, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

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Nile Level Texts

The Nile Level Texts (or Nile Quay Texts) are inscribed on the cult terrace (the so-called "quay") at the temple of Karnak, in Thebes, Egypt. This cult terrace itself was constructed during the time of Ramesses II, but the kings of the 22nd to the 26th Dynasties recorded the height of the Nile on its western side. The inscriptions are invaluable records since they are dated to specific years of a certain king's reign.

The cult terrace does not bear any inscriptions from the early years of reign of Taharqa, a period that is known from other sources to have been a time of drought.

The texts were first examined and recorded by Georges Legrain in 1896, and later recollated by Jürgen von Beckerath in 1953. Many are now damaged or lost through erosion.

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WHMB-TV

WHMB-TV (channel 40) is a religious independent television station in Indianapolis, Indiana, United States. It is owned by the Family Broadcasting Corporation (formerly known as LeSEA Broadcasting and later World Harvest Broadcasting). WHMB's studios are located on Greenfield Avenue in Noblesville, and its transmitter is located on Walnut Drive in northwestern Indianapolis.

WURD
White River Radio Corporation, owned by Rev. Wendell Hansen of Noblesville, filed an application on August 19, 1966, to build a new station in Lawrence, Indiana, on the channel 40 allocation for Indianapolis. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) approved the application on November 22, 1966. At that time, White River also had a pending application for a new radio station at 1110 kHz.

It was years before anyone saw a picture on channel 40. The nominal city of license was changed to Indianapolis in 1968, the same year ground was broken on facilities. In January 1969, the project was said to be "stalled by construction delays"; later that year, the Christian Broadcasting Network filed to purchase the unbuilt station, which would have been its second television property. CBN bowed out of the deal at the start of 1970, and the project continued on an on-again, off-again basis, though transmitter equipment was delivered in May 1970.

The transmitter was finally turned on on December 15, 1970, with programs starting two months later, on February 22. White River's radio station had also been approved after years of planning and signed on the air at the same time as WHYT. The TV station aired some syndicated children's shows, including Romper Room and Bozo the Clown. There was also country music programming, some public affairs, and religious programming, as well as one of the first shows for the Black community in Indianapolis.

White River was heavily undercapitalized for starting a television station, and few viewers were finding their way to tune to the UHF band, even with the recent launch of WFYI on channel 20. Within months, programming was cut back to save on electricity. In its largest programming coup, the station managed to secure the rights to rebroadcast Chicago White Sox games midway through the 1971 season.

After little more than a year with a poor advertising market, White River got out of television. Assembly of God minister Lester Sumrall filed to buy WURD from Hansen in May 1972. By that time, channel 40 had curtailed telecasting to two days a week. Broadcast operations were suspended on June 25 ahead of the sale; creditors were already suing in court to try and force the station into bankruptcy.

WHMB
The FCC approved of the sale to Sumrall's LeSea Broadcasting on August 15, 1972. The station resumed broadcasting on November 3 with a new call sign, WHMB-TV, and a schedule of mostly religious programs. It was LeSea's first television property; at the time, it only owned a radio station, WHME in South Bend. In 1974, the station expanded its broadcasting hours, signing on in the late morning; it also acquired the local rights to The 700 Club, which WHMB ran twice each weekday (it eventually ran a 90-minute edition of the program live at 10 a.m., along twice daily repeats of the hour-long version of the program by the latter part of the decade). By that point, the station also began carrying additional secular programming, with a mix of children's programs and westerns airing from about 3 to 6 p.m. The station began broadcasting 18 hours a day in 1975; at that time, WHMB began airing The PTL Club, which it aired in its two-hour broadcast (which was reduced to one hour in 1982) as well as one-hour versions that aired twice a day; the station also aired religious programs from televangelists such as Jimmy Swaggart and Richard Roberts.

In addition, the station also aired a few locally produced shows; Von Saum hosted a weekday afternoon children's program from 1972 until shortly before his death from heart failure in 1993 titled Pirate Adventures with Captain Hook, in which Saum (whose left leg and arm were amputated after he was hit by a car while riding his motorcycle at age 17 in 1960) and other cast members playing Hook's pirates used music and object lessons to teach children about Jesus Christ. Saum, who originated the Captain Hook character after a preacher encouraged him to a develop the character for Saum's children's ministry tours by acquiring a hook for his prosthetic arm and costume, was approached by Sumrall to bring his character to television. WHMB, which later syndicated the series to several countries, dropped the program when it returned recordings of the episodes to the now-deceased Saum years later. Channel 40 also ran twice-a-day airings of a locally produced weekday bible study program hosted by Lester Sumrall, as well as a Christian-oriented music and variety program hosted by the Sumrall family that aired three times a day.

The station began broadcasting on a 24-hour schedule by 1981; around this time, WHMB ran Christian programs from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. and 7 p.m. to 7 a.m.; cartoons from 7 to 9 a.m. and 3 to 5 p.m.; classic sitcoms from 1 to 3 p.m.; and a mix of sitcoms and occasional westerns from about 5 to 7 p.m. On Saturdays, the station ran children's and family-oriented secular programming, most of which was drawn from their weekday schedule from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m., and religious programming during the nighttime hours, and a schedule consisting entirely of Christian-oriented religious programs on Sundays.

Gradually, by 1983, WHMB carried Christian programming for much of the broadcast day, with breakaway windows for secular programming (including sitcoms, westerns and public domain movies) each weekday from 3 to 6 p.m. and Saturdays from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. By the 1990s, the station began acquiring somewhat more recent sitcoms from the 1970s and 1980s. WHMB eventually reduced its secular programming (consisting of sitcoms, drama series and lifestyle programs) to 2 to 7 p.m. each weekday and a scattered amount for a few hours a day on Saturdays, along with carrying children's programs complying with the FCC's educational programming guidelines for two hours on Saturday mornings and an hour on Sunday afternoons.

Programming
During the mid-1990s, WHMB aired a rebroadcast of then CBS affiliate WISH-TV (channel 8, now a CW affiliate)'s 6 p.m. newscast on a one-hour delay at 7 p.m. Currently, the closest thing to a newscast (more like a public affairs show) is Inside Indy airing Sunday nights at 11:30 p.m.

Sports programming
In 1997, the Indiana High School Athletic Association (IHSAA) awarded WHMB the local television rights to the statewide boys' and girls' high school basketball tournament finals and high school football championship games after UPN affiliate WTTV (channel 4, now a CBS affiliate) chose not to renew its contract to carry the games citing ratings declines; that year, the IHSAA converted its basketball tournament from a single-class to a multi-class format. WHMB opted against renewing the contract in 2004; the station continues to air high school football and basketball games on Friday nights during the IHSAA athletic season. The station also maintains rights to broadcast a handful of minor league baseball games annually from the Indianapolis Indians; during instances in which the station carries an away game featuring the team, WHMB instead transmits the home team's broadcast feed.

From 2012 to 2019, WHMB-TV was the Indianapolis home to the syndicated package of Atlantic Coast Conference football and men's basketball games originating from the ACC Network, an ad hoc syndicated sports network operated by Raycom Sports. The package included some men's basketball games involving the University of Notre Dame Fighting Irish as that school's sports programs (except football) joined the ACC in July 2013.

Subchannels
The station's signal is multiplexed:

WHMB-TV was the only LeSEA-owned station that was not included in a groupwide affiliation agreement with Cozi TV that was announced on June 17, 2014; the network, which primarily airs classic television series (including some that are currently or have previously aired on WHMB), has been carried locally on the second digital subchannel of NBC affiliate WTHR (channel 13) since March 2013 due to an existing agreement with then-owner Dispatch Broadcast Group and its Class A sister station WALV-CD (channel 46), now a MeTV affiliate since 2016, which is carried on WTHR's third digital subchannel as well.

In January 2017, LeSEA announced All Sports Channel 40.3, a subchannel with programming from the American Sports Network. It aired college basketball and ice hockey from the Big Ten Conference, Mid-American Conference, Horizon League and Hockey East. The subchannel also featured a sports talk show. The affiliation only lasted a short time, with a "WHMB-40.3" logo screen broadcasting from April until the end of May 2017.

At the end of May 2017, LeSEA shuffled World Harvest Television to its 40.3 subchannel, and added Light TV to 40.2. In September 2018, 40.3 was realigned to broadcast HSN, and WHT was dropped. In May 2020, Light TV was dropped, and QVC was added to 40.2.

Analog-to-digital conversion
WHMB-TV shut down its analog signal, over UHF channel 40, on January 16, 2009. The station's digital signal continued to broadcast on its pre-transition UHF channel 16, using virtual channel 40. In May 2012, the FCC issued a Report & Order, approving a request by LeSEA to move the station's digital signal from channel 16 to UHF channel 20.

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Miguelanxo Prado

Miguelanxo Prado is a Galician comic book creator. He was born in A Coruña, Spain in 1958.

Biography
Prado studied architecture, wrote novels and painted before his career in comics.

He worked for several magazines and wrote delirious and fierce life-chronicles. He published his first albums at Les Humanoïdes Associés: Chienne de Vie (1988), C'est du Sport (1989) and Y'a Plus de Justice (1991).

His best-known comic book is Trazo de Tiza or Trait de craie (Streak of Chalk, 1992). This is a dream-like, experimental "impossible" story about a man on an island, unable to distinguish dream from reality, or present from past. For this album, Prado won several awards, among others the Alph'Art for the Best Foreign Album at the Angoulême International Comics Festival, receiving this award for the second time; the first time was in 1991 for Manuel Montano. In April 2007 he was awarded the Grand Prize at the Salón del Cómic of Barcelona.

Prado decorated the doors and created the image for O Garaxe Hermético, a comic book and illustration school in Pontevedra, founded by fellow Galician creator Kiko da Silva.

Animation
Prado did character design for the animated Men In Black: The Series in the late '90s. His animated feature film,  was released in 2007.

Awards

 * 1991: Best Foreign Comic Book at the Angoulême International Comics Festival, France
 * 1994: Best Foreign Comic Book at the Angoulême International Comics Festival
 * 1998: Best German-language Comic for Children and Young People at the Max & Moritz Prizes, Germany
 * 2004: Eisner Award for Best Anthology, U.S.
 * 2007: Grand Prize, Salón del Comic, Barcelona, Spain

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Elizabeth E. Wein

Elizabeth E. Wein (, born October 2, 1964) is an American-born writer best known for her young adult historical fiction. She holds both American and British citizenship.

Personal life
Elizabeth E. Wein was born in New York City on October 2, 1964. She moved to England when she was three. When she was six, her father, Norman Wein, was sent to the University of the West Indies in Jamaica, where she lived from 1970 to 1973. As a child, she was fluent in Jamaican Patois.

Wein moved back to the United States when her parents separated, and she was raised by her mother Carol Flocken in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania until her death in a car accident in 1978, after which Wein lived with her maternal grandparents. She wrote her first novel at age 11. Wein attended Yale University and, after a year of work-study in England, spent seven years getting a PhD in Folklore at the University of Pennsylvania. Wein moved to England with her English husband Tim in 1995 and settled in Scotland in 2000. She and Tim have two children.

Wein has a passion for planes, and she possesses a private pilot licence which she received in 2003.

Writing career
Wein's first five books recount a version of the King Arthur stories which moves the narrative to the Kingdom of Aksum in 6th century Ethiopia. The stories focus on her interpretation of Medraut (Mordred) and his half-Aksumite, half-British son Telemakos.

Her 2012 novel, Code Name Verity, is a World War II thriller focusing on the friendship between an English women, and a Scottish women, a transport pilot and a spy. It received critical acclaim; it was awarded an Edgar Award for Best Young Adult Novel and designated a Michael L. Printz Award Honor book in 2013. A follow-up novel, Rose Under Fire, also set in World War II, tells the story of an Air Transport Auxiliary pilot who is captured and sent to the Ravensbrück concentration camp.

Wein's short stories have been published in collections edited by Ellen Datlow, Terri Windling, and Sharyn November. She is a regular reviewer for the New York Times Book Review.

Novels

 * Black Dove, White Raven (Disney-Hyperion, February 2015, ISBN 978-1423183105)
 * Star Wars: The Last Jedi: Cobalt Squadron (Disney-Lucasfilm Press, 2017, ISBN 1368008372)
 * Firebird (Barrington Stoke, 2018, ISBN 9781781128312)
 * White Eagles (Barrington Stoke, 2019, ISBN 978-1781128961)

Code Name Verity sequence

 * Code Name Verity (Egmont UK, 2012; Disney-Hyperion, 2012, ISBN 978-1423152194; Doubleday Canada, 2012)
 * Rose Under Fire (Egmont UK, June 2013; Disney-Hyperion, September 2013, ISBN 978-1423183099; Doubleday Canada, September 2013)
 * The Pearl Thief (Disney-Hyperion, May 2017, ISBN 978-1484717165)
 * The Enigma Game (Bloomsbury Children's (UK), May 2020, ISBN 978-1526601650)

The Lion Hunters: the Arthurian/Aksumite Cycle

 * 1) The Winter Prince (Atheneum, 1993; reissued by Firebird Books, 2003, ISBN 978-0142500149)
 * 2) A Coalition of Lions (Viking, 2003)
 * 3) The Sunbird (Viking, 2004)
 * 4) The Mark of Solomon 1: The Lion Hunter (Viking, 2007)
 * 5) The Mark of Solomon 2: The Empty Kingdom (Viking, 2008)

Short stories

 * "Change of Heart". In From a Certain Point of View (Star Wars). ed. Elizabeth Schaefer. New York: Del Rey, 2017.
 * "The Color of the Sky". In A Tyranny of Petticoats. ed. Jessica Spotswood. Somerville, MA: Candlewick Press, 2016.
 * "The Battle of Elphinloan". In Taking Aim. ed. Michael Cart. New York: HarperTeen, 2015.
 * "For the Briar Rose". In Queen Victoria's Book of Spells. ed. Ellen Datlow and Terri Windling. New York: Tor, 2013.
 * "Something Worth Doing". In Firebirds Soaring. ed. Sharyn November. New York: Firebird Books, 2009.
 * "Always the Same Story". In The Coyote Road: Trickster Tales. ed. Ellen Datlow and Terri Windling. New York: Viking, 2007.
 * "Chain of Events". In Rush Hour: Reckless. ed. Michael Cart. New York: Delacorte Books for Young Readers, June 2006.
 * "Chasing the Wind". In Firebirds. ed. Sharyn November. New York: Firebird Books, 2003.
 * "A Dear Gazelle". In Marion Zimmer Bradley's Fantasy Magazine Issue 47 (2000), pp. 34–38.
 * "The Ethiopian Knight". In Odyssey: A Magazine of Science Fiction and Fantasy Issue 7 (1998), pp. 42–46.
 * "No Human Hands to Touch". In Sirens and Other Daemon Lovers. ed. Ellen Datlow and Terri Windling. New York: HarperPrism, 1998; reprinted New York: Eos, 2002.
 * "The Bellcaster’s Apprentice". In The Horns of Elfland. ed. Ellen Kushner, Delia Sherman, and Donald G. Keller. New York: Roc/Penguin USA, 1997.
 * "New Year’s Eve". In Not the Only One. ed. Tony Grima. Boston: Alyson Press, 1995.
 * "Fire". In Writers of the Future. Vol. IX. ed. Dave Wolverton. Los Angeles: Bridge Publications, 1993.

Nonfiction

 * A Thousand Sisters: The Heroic Airwomen of the Soviet Union in World War II (Balzer + Bray, 2019, ISBN 978-0-06-245301-3)

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Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary

Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary is an 18 ha koala sanctuary in the Brisbane suburb of Fig Tree Pocket in Queensland, Australia.

Founded in 1927, it is the oldest and largest koala sanctuary of its kind in the world. The park houses approximately 80 species of Australian animals.

History
The name originates from a lone hoop pine that was planted by the Clarkson family, the first owners of the 4.6 ha site. The sanctuary opened in 1927 to provide a safe refuge to sick, injured, and orphaned koalas, at a time when they were being killed for their fur. The founder of the sanctuary, Claude Reid, recognised the need to protect this iconic species and initiated the protection of their habitat.

The sanctuary began with two koalas called Jack and Jill. Lone Pine became known internationally during World War II when Americans, including Douglas MacArthur's wife, visited the park to view the native Australian animals.

Wildlife

Until the end of June 2024, visitors were allowed to hold some of the koalas at the sanctuary for a fee with strict regulations ensure that each koala was not held for more than thirty minutes every day with other rules to ensure animal welfare, e.g. only holding captive-bred koalas with a suitable temperament. Fees paid for souvenir photos of vistors holding koalas helped fund new enclosures, research projects and eucalyptus plantations. From 1 July 2024, holding koalas is no longer allowed, but visitors will still be able to get close to some koalas. Although some animal welfare groups have long expressed concerned over the practice of visitors holding koalas, research from Griffith University showed that koalas accustomed to being held exhibited stress during lockdowns during the COVID pandemic when people could not visit the sanctuary.

Visitors can feed and pet the free-roaming kangaroos in the 5 acre kangaroo reserve, where more than 130 of the animals freely reside.

Rainbow lorikeets fly to the Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary for the specially prepared nectar meals at the sanctuary. Visitors can feed the lorikeets directly twice a day. Once a day there is a bird of prey show with several kinds of raptors showing off their speed, agility and keen eyesight.

The "Koala Forest" is a large koala enclosure with over 30 koalas surrounding the customers. The koalas are fed mid-morning and mid-afternoon.

Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary opened their new koala science and research facility, the Brisbane Koala Science Institute, on Saturday 30 June 2018. Constructed in collaboration with the Brisbane City Council, the facility is home to two full-time research staff, a research laboratory, and a "Koala Biobank" (koala genetic depository). Lone Pine hopes to improve collaboration within the science community through the use of the Institute's meeting spaces and seminar hall. Lone Pine visitors will be able to view the Institute daily from 9am to 5pm, via the public viewing area.

Mammals • Koala

• Common wombat

• Southern hairy-nosed wombat

• Platypus

• Short-beaked echidna

• Red kangaroo

• Eastern grey kangaroo

• Lumholtz's tree-kangaroo

• Red-necked wallaby

• Swamp wallaby

• Tasmanian devil

• Dingo

• Grey-headed flying fox

• Spectacled flying fox

• Little red flying fox

• Northern brown bandicoot

• Australian miniature goat

• Guinea pig

• Miniature pig

• Sheep

Birds • Emu

• Southern cassowary

• Wedge-tailed eagle

• Peregrine falcon

• Black kite

• Brahminy kite

• Eastern barn owl

• Barking owl

• Tawny frogmouth

• Laughing kookaburra

• Red-tailed black cockatoo

• Major Mitchell's cockatoo

• Gang-gang cockatoo

• Sulphur-crested cockatoo

• Princess parrot

• Rainbow lorikeet

• Bush stone-curlew

• ISA brown chicken

Reptiles and amphibians • Freshwater crocodile

• Saltwater crocodile

• Lace monitor

• Mertens' water monitor

• Spiny-tailed monitor

• Pygmy mulga monitor

• Central bearded dragon

• Rankin's dragon

• Eastern blue-tongued lizard

• Shingleback lizard

• Hosmer's spiny-tailed skink

• Pond slider

• Black-headed python

• Carpet python

• Olive python

• Woma python

• Centralian carpet python

• Common death adder

• Broad-headed snake

• Magnificent tree frog

Transport
There is an entrance to the sanctuary from a car park, and also an entrance to the sanctuary from the Brisbane River. One can arrive by private car or taxi, a journey of approximately 20 minutes from the city centre. One can also catch a Transport for Brisbane bus, or arrive by express boat from the Queensland Cultural Centre pontoon.

Awards
In 2009 as part of the Q150 celebrations, the Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary was announced as one of the Q150 Icons of Queensland for its role as a "location".

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Generation X (album)

Generation X is the first studio album by English punk rock band Generation X, produced by Martin Rushent, it was released in the United Kingdom on 17 March 1978.

Production
Generation X was recorded at TW Studios in Fulham, West London, during November–December 1977, with the producer Martin Rushent and the engineer Alan Winstanley.

The band had previously worked with the producer Phil Wainman on prior singles, but had been dissatisfied with the results, critiquing his production as too "poppy" and polished, and sought a recorded sound for the album that resembled the band's live performances. Frontman Billy Idol suggested Rushent for the role as he had been impressed with his recent work with The Stranglers. Guitarist Derwood Andrews later recalled, "Martin Rushent told great jokes, but his engineer Alan Winstanley was more responsible for the sound of the album".

The album was recorded during one week, with many of the songs being completed in one take. Bassist Tony James wrote most of the lyrics, with Idol composing the music. Andrews and drummer Mark Laff finished the songs by adding instrumental parts.

"'We (recorded) it in TW (Studios), and it was like recording in a garage, it was such a shithole. But it was great as we felt completely at home, we just plugged in and played great and it sounded great. ... 'Youth Youth Youth' was done in one take, we just set Derwood up with a wall of speakers in the studio, no headphones and just left the tape running. We were pissed, and did it at midnight, that's the only way we could have possibly recorded that track. He just went mad, we just all sat there in awe as he went crazy (playing that solo).' − Tony James"

Charts
On commercial release in the United Kingdom in March 1978 the album reached #29 in the Albums Chart.

Single releases
The song "Ready Steady Go" was issued as a single in February 1978 prior to the album's release, peaking at #47 in the United Kingdom's Singles Chart.

Cover art
The band portrait used as the front cover was photographed by Gered Mankowitz.

Release formats
The original U.S. release of the album featured a variant track listing, omitting three songs and adding three songs from the band's singles releases, with the addition of a cover of John Lennon's "Gimme Some Truth".

The album was later remastered and reissued in 2002 with the original UK track listing, augmented by six bonus tracks from singles.

Two outtakes recorded during the TW Studios sessions for Generation X, "Your Generation" and "Rock On", were retrospectively commercially issued on the 2004 K.M.D - Sweet Revenge Xtra album.

The album was re-issued internationally on 26 April 2019 as a part of a 2-CD/3-LP Deluxe collector's set, re-mastered by its original engineer Alan Winstanley. The bonus CD/two bonus LPs featured a-side and b-sides tracks from singles, outtakes, and previously unreleased mixes.

Personnel

 * Generation X
 * Billy Idol − vocals
 * Tony James − bass, vocals
 * Bob "Derwood" Andrews − guitar, vocals
 * Mark Laff − drums, vocals
 * Technical
 * Alan Winstanley - engineer
 * Gered Mankowitz - photography, design concept

Appearances in popular culture
The song "Kiss Me Deadly" was used in the soundtrack of the movie SLC Punk (1998).

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Talk:Left Behind: World at War

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Doesn't read
This doesn't read like an encyclopedic article at all, but rather like a discussion of a movie on a fan site.

I'm realy sorry, my English is realy poor, but still, I just use my hands to fix some information on this movie, as it's friendly enough to understand that Churches is the place where movies are great to watch, even though most Churches doesn't are outfitted as mostly theathers out there. --81.226.65.96 12:30, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I saw this movie last nite and am glad to say that it was fairly good. The acting was good and the effects were great. This picture is worthy of any movie house. I hope that the quality of this series of movies only gets better.--Mauger 17:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Find a Way by Pure
On the DVD there is a Music video by some band called "Pure", and I can find NOTHING about them on the web, can someone help me please?

PURE Changed thier name!!
The song find a way that is found on Left Behind World at War,is now played by the band formally known as PURE. They go by the name Article A....you can find them at www.myspace.com/articlearock

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Portland Mercury

Portland Mercury is an alternative bi-weekly newspaper and media company founded in 2000 in Portland, Oregon. It has a sibling publication in Seattle, Washington, called The Stranger.

Contributors and staff
Editor-In-Chief: Wm. Steven Humphrey News Editor: Courtney Vaughn Arts and Culture Editor: Suzette Smith News Reporter: Taylor Griggs President and Publisher: Rob Crocker

Current list retrieved on July 16, 2024.

History
A prior version of The Mercury was published from 1869 and into the 1930s. The current Portland Mercury launched in June 2000. The paper describes their readership as "affluent urbanites in their 20s and 30s." Its long-running rivalry with Willamette Week began before its first issue was even printed when Willamette Week publisher Richard Meeker asked a Portland law firm to pay $10 to register the Mercury name with Oregon's Corporation Division, thus preventing it from being used for 120 days.

As of 2020, the newspaper's revenue was almost entirely dependent on advertising and sales of tickets for events and concerts with nearly 95% of its revenue coming from advertisements.

Former managing editor Phil Busse's controversial tenure included charges of plagiarism, a favorable review for a restaurant that hadn't yet opened, a bid for mayor, and a cover featuring him wearing women's underwear, dollops of whipped cream, and a hard hat. Shrill, a television series based on Seattle-based writer Lindy West’s memoir and essay collection of the same name, was inspired by The Stranger and Portland Mercury and starred actress Aidy Bryant. The paper has also published articles and columns written by Chuck Palahniuk and Dan Savage.

Portland Mercury's print edition was published weekly until fall 2018 when it changed to bi-weekly beginning with the issue released on September 13, 2018. Its name as displayed on the nameplate was shortened to just Mercury as well.

On March 14, 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, the paper temporarily suspended print publication and switched to online only. In addition, it laid off 10 employees, which comprised half of the publication's staff. A special newsstand edition, titled 'Say Nice Things About Portland: A Manifesto,' was released in May 2023. It was Portland Mercury's first print publication since the beginning of the pandemic.

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Object Modeling in Color

UML color standards are a set of four colors associated with Unified Modeling Language (UML) diagrams. The coloring system indicates which of several archetypes apply to the UML object. UML typically identifies a stereotype with a bracketed comment for each object identifying whether it is a class, interface, etc.

These colors were first suggested by Peter Coad, Eric Lefebvre, and Jeff De Luca in a series of articles in The Coad Letter, and later published in their book Java Modeling In Color With UML.

Over hundreds of domain models, it became clear that four major "types" of classes appeared again and again, though they had different names in different domains. After much discussion, these were termed archetypes, which is meant to convey that the classes of a given archetype follow more or less the same form. That is, attributes, methods, associations, and interfaces are fairly similar among classes of a given archetype.

When attempting to classify a given domain class, one typically asks about the color standards in this order:

 * pink:moment-interval — Does it represent a moment or interval of time that we need to remember and work with for legal or business reasons? Examples in business systems generally model activities involving people, places and things such as a sale, an order, a rental, an employment, making a journey, etc.
 * yellow:roles — Is it a way of participating in an activity (by either a person, place, or thing)? A person playing the role of an employee in an employment, a thing playing the role of a product in a sale, a location playing the role of a classroom for a training course, are examples of roles.
 * blue:description — Is it simply a catalog-entry-like description which classifies or 'labels' an object? For example, the make and model of a car categorises or describes a number of physical vehicles. The relationship between the blue description and green party, place or thing is a type-instance relationship based on differences in the values of data items held in the 'type' object.
 * green:party, place, or thing — Something tangible, uniquely identifiable. Typically the role-players in a system. People are green. Organizations are green. The physical objects involved in a rental such as the physical DVDs are green things. Normally, if you get through the above three questions and end up here, your class is a "green."

Although the actual colors vary, most systems tend to use lighter color palettes so that black text can also be easily read on a colored background. Coad, et al., used the 4-color pastel Post-it notes, and later had UML modeling tools support the color scheme by associating a color to one or more class stereotypes.

Many people feel colored objects appeal to the pattern recognition section of the brain. Others advocate that you can begin a modeling process with a stack of four-color note cards or colored sticky notes.

The value of color modeling was especially obvious when standing back from a model drawn or projected on a wall. That extra dimension allowed modelers to see important aspects of the models (the pink classes, for instance), and to spot areas that may need reviewing (unusual combinations of color classes linked together).

The technique also made it easy to help determine aspects of the domain model – especially for newcomers to modeling. For example, by simply looking first for "pinks" in the domain, it was easy to begin to get some important classes identified for a given domain. It was also easy to review the standard types of attributes, methods, and so on, for applicability to the current domain effort.

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Firebird Books

Firebird Books (launched January 2002) is an imprint of Penguin Group (USA) Inc., publishing mainly paperback reprint editions of science fiction and fantasy for teenagers and adults.

It was created by Sharyn November, one of the few children's book editors who works with teenagers. In the process, she discovered that some of her best readers loved speculative fiction, and were going into the adult genre sections of bookstores and libraries in order to find it.

Firebird has quickly become the most recognizable imprint of its kind, and Sharyn November was named a World Fantasy Award Finalist in both 2004 and 2005 for her work. Firebirds Rising, the second anthology November edited for the imprint, is a 2007 World Fantasy Award Finalist.

"Firebirds", the first anthology, consists of short sci-fi/fantasy stories by the likes of Lloyd Alexander, Emma Bull, Charles Vess, Michael Cadnum, Kara Dalkey, Nancy Farmer, Nina Kiriki Hoffman, Diana Wynne Jones, Patricia A. McKillip, Garth Nix, Meredith Ann Pierce, Delia Sherman, Sherwood Smith, Nancy Springer, Megan Whalen Turner, Elizabeth E. Wein, and Laurel Winter.

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Al-Ansi

Al-ʿAnsī (العنسي) is an ancient and prolific tribe originating in the Al Jawf Governorate region of Yemen. After the final breach of the Marib Dam about 570 CE, its members spread across the Arabian Peninsula. Today, members of the tribe are mostly situated in ʿAns, Yemen, with some tribe members residing in the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman and Kuwait.

Famous members of the al-ʿAnsī tribe include:
 * ʻAmmār ibn Yāsir, who fled Yemen to Mecca and became a companion of Muhammad
 * Aswad Ansi, a competing prophet to Muhammad, who sent Fayruz al-Daylami to assassinate him under the supervision and planning of Qais bin Hubaira.

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Iowa State Daily

The Iowa State Daily is an independent student newspaper serving Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa, that is published in print and online. It was founded in 1890, and is largely funded by advertising revenues. The Iowa State University Student Government helps pay for its distribution on campus.

The paper is published five days a week during the fall and winter semesters. In 2017, the Daily moved from publishing in print once a week during the summer to solely digital content. The Daily's printed circulation is 5,038.

Lawrence Cunningham was hired in July 2014 as the general manager, overseeing the organization's advertising department. Following Laura Widmer's resignation as the organization's CEO in November 2014, the Iowa State Daily Publication Board named Cunningham as her replacement in December 2014. Mark Witherspoon has served as the student newspaper's editorial adviser since 1999. Beginning in the fall of 2006, he became a full-time adviser.

History
In the spring of 1890, The I.A.C. Student was founded by a group of students led by F.E. Davidson at the Iowa Agricultural College. It was done without any support from the college or officials. The publication led the way for the Iowa Agricultural College Student, which formally launched on August 7, 1890. It was printed at Ames Intelligencer.

The first issue stated:We shall try to publish a "college newspaper". The Iowa Agricultural College is our field and we shall endeavor to advance the institute in every manner possible. We shall not attempt to run scientific or literary magazine, and we doubt if there is a demand for our ideas on politics and religion. It is our object to create a genuine college newspaper, one free from all alliances, and in this work we invite all the friends of the institute to help us."

Seven issues later, the Student wrote:"Notwithstanding the prophesies of unfriendly critics, The Student has grown and prospered. We have endeavored to make it truly a students' newspaper - a record of what they think and how they act."

The Iowa Agricultural College Student was a bi-weekly newspaper until 1894, when it began publishing on a weekly basis at the cost of about 5 to 10 cents per issue.

In March 1897, the I.A.C. Student was formally renamed The Student as it went from 8 pages to around 16 pages per issue. In 1900, The Student began publication twice a week. Two years later the newspaper was renamed yet again, this time to The Iowa State Student. It was about this time that the first courses in journalism were offered at Iowa State. In fall of 1905, a course in agricultural journalism was added to the course catalog. Home Economic students received a journalism course in 1911. Engineering journalism was added in 1920. The Department of Technical Journalism was created in 1927.

During the newspaper's first 25 years it began to make a transition from personal and editorial-based stories to more news stories such as the assassination of President William McKinley, the fire that burnt down the Old Main Building, and the death of the college's former president William M. Beardshear. Most of the news stories were positive reports on the school's developments. Critical stories were rare but The Student did run a few. Sports coverage was another important coverage area. Baseball and football had been essentials at I.A.C for years, but basketball also became a popular sport, even though it took a while for the college to pick up on its popularity.

On September 14, 1914, the newspaper undertook the task of publishing three days a week. The Student also accepted some suggestions by then university president Raymond Pearson. An editorial board made up of a couple faculty and about half a dozen students would have complete control over the editorial and business aspect of each issue. The paper would also be very cautious of printing anything to critical as to protect the reader. The newspaper's size also declined during this period to only about four pages by 1918 because of the war.

In 1924, the Student united with Iowa Agriculturalist, Iowa Homemaker, and Iowa Engineer to create the Collegiate Press (later called the Iowa State University Press). The Collegiate Press and the College agreed to establish it as a nonprofit corporation and the College set aside the east basement of Agricultural Hall for printing. The acquiring of a Model A Duplex Press in 1926, allowed for morning publication.

During the 1920s and 1930s The Iowa State Student focused on everything at Iowa State and left state, national and even city headlines out. The construction of the Memorial Union, the addition of new bells at the Campanile, the first VEISHEA celebrations, and the shocking death of football player Jack Trice were heavily covered.

In March 1938, The Iowa State Student began publishing five times a week and was renamed The Iowa State Daily Student.

An agreement between the College and the Collegiate Press resulted in the building of Collegiate Press Building. The building was renamed to "Press Building" in 1956, and to its current name of "Hamilton Hall" in 1984, after Carl Hamilton, who served for three years as head of the Department of Technical Journalism as well as two years in University Relations, and 17 years as Vice President for Information and Development. Hamilton also served as editor of The Iowa State Student from 1934 - 1935.

During the World War II, The Iowa State Daily Student was forced to reduce the size from eight pages to four pages. By 1942, nearly every story and advertisement was linked to the campus's war effort and included sections "War Detail" and "Iowa State Men in the Services."

Women were also largely covered during this time with a section entitled "Women in Society." This was due to the fact that most of Iowa State's men had gone to fight in the war.

After the war, the newspaper began to publish stories for a wider audience, and not just for the students of Iowa State. On June 8, 1947, The Iowa State Daily Student was renamed The Iowa State Daily. Then editor Lee Schwanz observed that the generation on campus was made up of people who had been in the war and been to Europe and the Pacific, so he made a move toward covering more international, national, state, and local news.

In the Spring 2017 semester the Daily began publishing an e-newsletter to all 36,000 plus students at the University.

Beginning in the Fall 2017 semester, the Daily began printing on tabloid sized print. The decision was made as a way to save money over the more expensive broadsheet that had been used prior.

As of the summer of 2020, the Daily has stopped publishing a print product due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The Daily has since been operating exclusively digitally.

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The Ballad of Jed Clampett

"The Ballad of Jed Clampett" is the theme song for the television series The Beverly Hillbillies and the later movie of that name, providing the introductory story for the series. The song was composed by Paul Henning, and recorded first by bluegrass musicians Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs, with Jerry Scoggins singing. The single phono-album version, released for radio and retail sale, merges both the beginning and ending lyrics of the theme song of the television series. The beginning theme comprises the first two verses (starting with "Come and listen to a story about a man named Jed" and "Well the first thing you know, old Jed's a millionaire"), and the ending theme is the third verse ("Now it's time to say goodbye to Jed and all his kin..."). A banjo-dominated sequence occurs between verses and as the ending fade-out. The song was sung by Jerry Scoggins for the beginning of the series, with instruments played by Flatt and Scruggs.

Although the first two seasons of The Beverly Hillbillies lapsed into the public domain, "The Ballad of Jed Clampett" did not and is typically edited from public-domain releases of these episodes.

History
"The Ballad of Jed Clampett" was written by producer and writer Paul Henning. It was performed by Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs. At Louise Scruggs' suggestion, the song was released as a single. It was later included on an album, Hard Travelin.

Charts
Beginning on December 8, 1962, the song spent 20 weeks on the Billboard country singles charts, scoring a maximum of number one for three weeks and scored #44 on the Billboard Hot 100 during 1962. It was the first bluegrass record to top the Billboard country charts. The song remained one of the best-selling and well-known bluegrass songs into the 21st century.

Adaptations
"Weird Al" Yankovic merged the first two stanzas of the Ballad with the instrumentals to the Dire Straits song "Money for Nothing" for his 1989 single "Money for Nothing/Beverly Hillbillies*", which was composed for his movie UHF.

During the late 1970s, the television series Saturday Night Live featured a spoof of the Beverly Hillbillies as a skit about a wealthy family from an oil-rich Mideastern country relocating to Southern California. The theme song for the skit was termed "The Bel-Arabs".

During Bill Clinton's presidential administration, Saturday Night Live staged a spoof of the song, substituting Clinton's name for Jed Clampett's and changing the destination from Beverly Hills to the White House.

Banjo virtuoso Béla Fleck often plays the ballad in concert. Fleck also accompanied Scruggs for a re-recording of the song for the 1993 movie adaptation of The Beverly Hillbillies.

On August 13, 2009, national broadcaster Q&A featured a spoof version of the song lampooning the then leader of the Australian Liberal Party Malcolm Turnbull by Stefan Sojka - Bellevue Hillbilly - making fun of his wealth, his relative unpopularity and his admission that he once tried cannabis.

title: The Ballad of Jed Clampett