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Talk:Black & White (video game)

populous
doesnt mention populous. inconceivable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.240.25.160 (talk) 03:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect Name?
Should Black and White be renamed to Black & White? This appears to be the corrent title on the official EA Games Website

 * Quite so... seems to be all correct now. (Darric, 06 Sept 2005)

Unplayable on Windows XP
It may or may not be notable that there is no way to play this game on a PC with Windows XP.

Yes it can, after downloading the patches, and following the advice on the offical forums http://allboards.lionhead.com Check out the sticky thread in the "Black And White" forum. Grymsqueaker 13:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I have just installed an original 2001 release version of this onto a PC with Windows XP SP2 and DirectX 9c; It installed and ran fine (well, all of Land 1 and a bit of Land 2), with no patching required. Jaruzel 12:35, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

If you have Windows XP: Media Center Edition 2005, don't install the patch i've tried it countless times and it totally stopped the Black and white 1 Game from working, it works without the patch fine. Fire Monkey (talk) 16:38, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok after some heavy modification to the games patch, I have made it work on XP!! Please pm for more info! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.104.117 (talk) 03:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Article has too much opinion
Speaking as a good god, I think it's actually not too hard to be a good god. One way to build influence is to build up villages, which takes wood. Casting "Miracle Wood" is a "good" action.

Not Unplayable upon release
It was possible to play through and win with the original release. There were a couple of really annoying bugs, though.

Your worshippers would sometimes consume all the food at the worship site in one gulp. Fixed by patch.

The longer you played a level, the longer the load and save times become. Still a problem, although improved by patch. (Opinion: this game has the absolute worst load/save game feature of any I've ever seen).

Creature poop never decays, which means a level will become covered with creature poop unless you fireball it. Still a problem... and never fireball poop while your creature is watching, because that's a behavior he'll emulate, without regard for the fact that the poop is next to your temple or within one of your villages.

Original Giant
I've been sorted though old magazines to throw out... just opened PC Gamer UK, issue 59 (August 1998). It's got a scoop on page 19, with a large picture of a giant. Not a monkey, or a cow, or anything like that. It's a humonoid creature with no mouth, wearing a loincloth! According to the article, it's appearance would still change according to your actions. Should probably be mentioned somewhere.91.105.6.48 (talk) 12:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That picture is probably the Ogre mentioned in the list of Creatures - all the creatures   change as you play them. Any material added to the article needs more sourcing than a picture or it is original research and not allowed. PC Gamer publishes a LOT of pre-release hype from design teams that never actually makes it in playable form in the actual release.--  The Red Pen of Doom  12:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Unplayable upon release
Shouldn't there be some sort of mention about the fact that the game was unplayable upon release as it wouldn't let you complete one of the later levels?

I'd write it myself but I don't have enough information about it. I just remember Peter Molyneux being all hype-happy about it, and then turning around and saying 'well yeah, we need to fix that'. That one experience completely let down my faith in him and Lionhead. Only for it to be compounded by Fable's complete failure.

Didn't Peter Molyneux say that Fable would enable you to build your own teleporter using common household materials? Probably, since he generally over-hypes his games to the heavens. --Dan 16:36, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

When black and white was released, there was a bug on the last level. What was meant to happen is that a curse on your creature was removed, but the bug prevented that curse from being removed. You could still complete the game, but you would just end up with a completly useless creature. Thats what i remember about it, anyway.

 * Also, it's not playable if you have Windows XP and I think 2000, not to mention others the game it's self mentions. It think someone should add an entire Technical Difficulties section. Gopherbassist 12:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Writing style
This article is of a slightly below mediocre standard and needs to be written in a less informal tone. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 22:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Ape not Orangutan?
According to this Prima guide here, the initial monkey creature is an 'Ape' and there is another darker monkey creature called a 'Chimp'. How should we edit this? Seriphyn 09:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * There is an Ape and a Chimpanzee and A Mandrill IIRC,I've not played for AGES!However,I've not played in full,IMHO,just get the Lion if you're a player,the best Creature...Ever.121.7.56.203 16:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Zipcode for weather?
I just seen that in weather section, I had never heard of that, what is it talking about?

Dancing Pets
I heard that the animals could dance to arbitrary music.
 * Does an in-game Winamp interface count? Nifboy 08:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

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Creature surprise
Wasn't there a test in the A.I. where the creature did something that surprised the developers? If so, this should be included. P.S. I don't have the time but there a lot of typos in the article, such as periods after )). Lots42 (talk) 11:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

 * Not only that, but according to the article on Richard Evans: "The artificial creature in Black & White holds the Guinness World Record for most intelligent being in a game.[5] Black and White is Number 1 in AIGameDev's most influential AI games.[6]" Surprised that that's not mentioned anywhere on the page.Stoopdapoop (talk) 07:00, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Reference material
While digging through the online print archive, I located the following print preview material for this game: One or more print reviews for this game may also be found in the archive. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 09:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Computer Games Magazine Preview
 * Computer Gaming World Preview
 * Computer Games Magazine Preview
 * Computer Games Magazine Preview
 * Computer Games Magazine Preview
 * Next Generation Magazine Preview

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Hi Adam9007. I was wondering what your logic was regarding the use of the less common spelling here, which you reverted. What's the benefit of using an archaic spelling instead of one that people are more familiar with? (see how many universities offer courses in Mediaeval studies versus Medieval studies). Apologies for the behavior/behaviour thing btw, my spell checked keeps slipping into US mode. Scribolt (talk) 22:00, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * "Mediaeval" isn't archaic, at least not according to the major dictionaries I've checked: Oxford, MacMillan, Merriam-Webster, Cambridge, and Collins. Perhaps you're thinking of "mediæval"? As for familiarity, it's not like the difference between "Jail" and "Gaol". It's kind of like the difference between "Realize" and "Realise": if you understand one, you understand the other (and I can't see any reason why most would not understand "mediaeval"). Also, surely the same is true for words like Encyclopedia/Encyclopaedia? I definitely have seen "Encyclopaedia" used in articles. I also notice you haven't made the same archaic and familiarity/commonality arguments for "connexion" and "reflexion", both of which are used in the article too. There's no particular benefit to using either spelling: I just don't see why the change was necessary. I know we should use the most common terminology or terminology that's common to all English varieties if possible, but I'm not aware of any such rule that applies to spelling. Adam9007 (talk) 23:23, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Archaic in the context of words means old and now uncommonly used, so I think this fits (see []). All of your examples seem to fall into that category. I would have used the same argument for connexion if I'd noticed it and in all honesty when I saw reflexion, I didn't know what it meant and assumed it was a technical term related to the rendering process. After quickly googling, I see it's the same as reflection? So, an example of why these things can lead to confusion, even for British English speakers (although maybe just ignorant ones in my case). I disagree with your statement that there's no benefit in using the common spelling of words instead of unusual alternatives, it reduces the possibility of confusion and makes the article easier to read and understand. Do you believe that the use of the spellings mentioned above provide additional information or improve the readability of the article? BTW, there's no rule I'm aware of either relating to spellings althought I haven't searched for one. Scribolt (talk) 06:40, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, after having asked around, MOS:COMMONALITY seems relevant if you believe it doesn't make difference either way Scribolt (talk) 13:38, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * MOS:COMMONALITY applies to vocabulary, not spelling. By that logic, we should scrap -ise spellings and force the use of Oxford spelling in all BrE articles, as -ize spellings are common to both BrE and AmE. Adam9007 (talk) 01:34, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's particularly controversial to say that both ise and ize are both commonly used forms, while mediaeval, reflexion and connexion are not in either British or American, so I don't think that argument really holds. Sorry to come back to this, but you've still not really answered my question, which I've asked twice now in different ways. What's the benefit of using the spelling that you reverted rather than the commonly used version? Seeing as you bought them up, please address this for reflexion and connexion too. You've mentioned in passing that there's no benefit in either way, so in that case I would suggest that the common form in both British and American English would be better for the readability of the article. However, maybe there is a semantic difference that I'm not aware of, so I'd like to get your thoughts. Scribolt (talk) 06:23, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Neither you or have explained how "connection" and "medieval" are better than "connexion" and "mediaeval" (which were used in the article first I might add; given the way I've been treated, you could be forgiven for thinking that "connection" and "medieval" were used and I changed them) respectively. The only argument I've heard is that they're more common. More common does not equal more correct. I have used "mediaeval" in 3 other articles that passed GAN, so either the reviewers didn't notice (which I doubt), or they didn't care. "Connexion" and "reflexion" are simpler and closer to their pronunciation (in addition to being more "etymologically correct" (the Latin used xion for those words, and the same goes for "mediaeval"), a key feature (as I understand it anyway) in Oxford Spelling (although this article doesn't use it), and theoretically less confusing. As for "mediaeval", I imagine it's the same with "encyclopaedia", and I know for a fact "encyclopaedia" is not archaic. Adam9007 (talk) 12:31, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

See my responses below:
 * . This isn't true, please see: and.
 * . This is completely irrelevant, you reverted the edits that removed these terms, so it's not unreasonable to ask you why or to assume that you believe that they improve the article. Or to ask you provide specifics as to your reasoning.
 * . This is completely irrelevant, no one claimed that the words less correct, only that they're not commonly used in any form of English and therefore introduce reduce readability and increase the risk of confusion for the reader.
 * . In what way are they simpler? They aren't commonly used. In what way are they closer to the pronunciation of these words? I don't pronounce them in that way.
 * . Could you please explain in what way these are more 'etymologically correct', and why that's relevant to a Wikipedia article? Scribolt (talk) 14:58, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No, the terms are the same: "connection" and "connexion" are the same word, as are "medieval" and "mediaeval". There were already perfectly valid spellings.
 * That's not the impression I got from Oknazevad's edits How so? I can't see any reason "connexion" is less readable than "connection", or that "mediaeval" is harder to understand than "medieval".
 * They have 1 less letter. I've always pronounced "connection" kon-ek-shun. Seems that "connexion" is a perfectly reasonable representation of the pronunciation.
 * I thought I had, but I'll explain again. "connection" comes from the Latin word "connexio", not "connectio" (there's no such word as far as I'm aware). Same with "reflection", which comes from "reflexio". "Medieval" is a blend of "Medium" and "aevum", hence "Mediaeval". It's relevant because some articles use Oxford spelling, which, as I understand it, prefers "etymologically correct" spellings. That's why -ize spellings are preferred there; they're closer to the Greek root. But we don't have to be using Oxford spelling to use "etymologically correct" spellings. Adam9007 (talk) 21:22, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, but in all honesty (and I'm open to the possibility that I might not be making myself clear) you again appear to be answering different questions to those I've asked.
 * I wasn't arguing that they weren't valid spellings. You appeared to be upset that you were being treated in a certain way here even though you didn't introduce all of the spellings under discussion. If you revert edits that others regard as improvements, you should expect to be asked to discuss why you did it, and this is why I stated that it was irrelevant that you didn't introduce all of the terms yourself.
 * Where did he say it was actually incorrect? Besides, I was addressing you, not them.
 * I've explained this multiple time above and again below, which you seem to keep missing.
 * Shorter words are not always simpler to read. Reflexion is very rarely used in comparison to reflection. At the risk of calling myself uneducated yet again, I personally have never seen it before and interpreted it wrongly. Non-native speakers will almost certainly not have seen it before. Therefore, someone who has never seen this commonly used term has to stop and think, does this mean what it looks like and should I substitute it with another word that I do understand? This process is completely unnecessary in this case because there's absolutely in the article that means that reflexion imparts anything to the reader other than making them stop to think and in my case leading them to the wrong conclusion. For zero benefit.
 * even if you don't pronounce the t (which I do, but I appreciate accents vary), I still don't think that ek is closer to ex than it is to ect. The -exion pronunciation doesn't have the hard 'c' in at all. Even if it did, I see the phonetic closeness of a spelling to be irrelevant to whether we choose it for inclusion in a written encyclopedia.
 * . OK, I phrased the first part this question badly and you missed the important bit. Even if your original research here is correct, which it may be, the most important part which you didn't address at all, is why is any of this relevant to Wikipedia? I don't understand your preference for wanting to use these particular spellings, but put yourself in the place of the reader? Do they want something that they are more likely to understand and is consistent with the rest of the encyclopedia? Or something that's closer to the greek or latin root?
 * This may all be moot bearing the discussions taking place at MOS, but I'm not going over all of this to try and kick you when you're down, I'm trying to show you that you're being asked good faith questions and you give the appearance of trying to avoid answering them. Scribolt (talk) 07:18, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Here
 * eks sounds similar to ex, but not ect.
 * I can't read the minds of our readers, but I imagine that, for any given article, they just want something that's understandable. There's no consistency throughout the encyclopaedia, as some articles use American English, others British etc. Some articles use "color", others "colour". Adam9007 (talk) 02:56, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * So you were referring to a comment he made in the future that still didn't say it was incorrect, merely that anyone who didn't think it was obscure and archaic was wrong. You might disagree with that, I certainly don't, but you've ben reading things into what people have written that haven't been there. You seem unwilling to even entertain the notion that for many readers, the obscure spellings you added or attempted to retain might not be as understandable and you again failed to propose a benefit for your version. There's certainly limited consistency between British and American English articles, but as the terms here have commonly used and consistent spellings in both forms, again, that's not really relevant. Colour and color are different because each is uncommon in one version. Scribolt (talk) 05:03, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I can't read the minds of our readers, but I imagine that, for any given article, they just want something that's understandable. There's no consistency throughout the encyclopaedia, as some articles use American English, others British etc. Some articles use "color", others "colour". Adam9007 (talk) 02:56, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * So you were referring to a comment he made in the future that still didn't say it was incorrect, merely that anyone who didn't think it was obscure and archaic was wrong. You might disagree with that, I certainly don't, but you've ben reading things into what people have written that haven't been there. You seem unwilling to even entertain the notion that for many readers, the obscure spellings you added or attempted to retain might not be as understandable and you again failed to propose a benefit for your version. There's certainly limited consistency between British and American English articles, but as the terms here have commonly used and consistent spellings in both forms, again, that's not really relevant. Colour and color are different because each is uncommon in one version. Scribolt (talk) 05:03, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Awards section
I'm not sure if it's just on my end, but the awards section seems somewhat randomly ordered. At the moment it shows awards in 2001, then 2002, then 1999 and so on. Would it be ok to organise that section by the year? I may have missed something for why it's organised like that though.--Stikman (talk) 18:25, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It looks as though it's grouped by the awarding organisation (Bafta etc) although I had to stop and work it out. No objections from me, your way sounds clearer, although an alternative would be the existing order with some more intelligent formatting so the year isn't emphasised first. Scribolt (talk) 18:53, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, I can see how it's set out now. I'm thinking if the table template used is changed (i.e. from 'awards table3' to 'awards table2') it would let people sort it by year, result etc, which could make it a bit clearer depending on what the individual was looking for. If there's no problems with that, then I'll just change it. --Stikman (talk) 19:28, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

PlayStation version; did it really not exist?
I was reading the article and it says (pretty clearly) that the Playstation version of the game never existed. But I distinctly remember having had friends that owned that version of the game as well as even playing it (briefly) myself. So what gives? Is this a matter of article vandalism, or did I somehow end up in an alternate reality or something? Because I'm 100% certain the PSX/PS1 version did in fact exist, or at least it did in Sweden (games being available in Swedish was a pretty big thing/draw at the time.) Captain Seasick (talk) 21:29, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

 * You'll have to find some credible evidence. It would be interesting if it really was available for PlayStation in Sweden, but I haven't been able to find anything about it (but I'm also searching in English). --  Primium  (talk) 23:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

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syide publicity
The article contains the phrase "This prologue has obtained a syide publicity." WHat does this mean?

The "From distant climes" prologue is actually written by Henry Carter (d. 1806) according to the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, which cites _The Australian Encyclopedia_ (1927).

I believe that the current text is taken from the Dictionary of (UK) National Biography, though I haven't checked. The Dictionary of Australian National Biography, also to the best of my recollection, says that Barrington almost certainly did not write the prologue in question. (This is consistent with the assertion about Carter writing it above, which I note is also from an Australian source.) I'm editing the main text to say that his authorship is in doubt, and at some point I will research this better and clean this up if no one else does it first. (I have some interest in Barrington as we share a surname.) 70.91.137.57 02:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)DaveMB

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Talk:Richard Kelly (filmmaker)

The Police State seems unhappy with Richard
'Darko' Director Investigated Over "Terrorism Links" Donnie Darko director Richard Kelly could be forced to miss the Cannes Film Festival because his passport is being reviewed by the US Government. Homeland Security is investigating 31-year-old Kelly, reportedly because there is a James Kelly on the terrorist watch list. Fearing he will be unable to attend the premiere of his new movie Southland Tales at Cannes later this month, Kelly has contacted a US senator and has recruited his mother to hunt out documents to help him prove his American citizenship. The Virginia-born writer/director fears the issue could be connected to the plot of his new movie, which is in part about security measures taken by the US Government following 9/11. He says, "The paranoid conspiracy freak inside me is starting to think this has something to do with the film."

Should this be integrated with the article somehow? Cowicide 20:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

yes, that's interesting. --Jim Raynor (talk) 19:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

New Pic
Seriously!?! A HS photo? Come on, let's find a new one... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.161.141.131 (talk) 22:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

We could get a better picture than that blurry one.

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 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete (After filtering through the edit history for new users, anons, and other questionable actions, I count 14 delete, 3 merge, and 1 redirect votes) --Allen3 talk 15:03, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Parker Law Firm

 * (SOCK PUPPET) Delete Terrible. I know Mr. Parker personally and know that he would not approve of this article.--EarlBoykins 23:08, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * (SOCK PUPPET) KEEP To delete this would be sinful. p.s. can you figure out if I'm a sock puppet?...beeotches! --Fuckthe LHP Haters 23:02, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete What is this? Practically this same article is listed under Votes for deletion/Larry H. Parker. Complete vanity, not to mention that it's repetitive vanity. Note the bit at the bottom of the page about "Supporters and Detractors." --Blackcap | talk 21:58, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * (SOCK PUPPET) Undecided I compared this to the article Blackcap referenced. It is much better than that one.  However, the part at the bottom is vanity, but seems to be in jest.  "Lion of the Law"?  Please, give me a break.  Maybe they should decide this one in the court of law!--JohnF32 22:05, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * User:JohnF32: 3 edits, all of them for either this VfD or the Larry H. Parker VfD. --Blackcap | talk 22:13, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * (SOCK PUPPET) KEEP I like that "Lion of the Law" part. Seems accurate.  --Majutray 22:00, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * User:Sinatra-iz-God: 4 edits, all of them for either this VfD or the Larry H. Parker VfD. Unfortunately for you, neither accuracy nor how much you like the "Lion of the Law" bit is relevant. It's a vanity page, and should be deleted according to this policy. --Blackcap | talk 22:09, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete the wønderful spåm. Pilatus 22:08, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete A relatively amusing vanity page but it's advertising. Dlyons493 22:12, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. nn supported by sock puppets that have all already been worn on Larry H. Parker.JDoorjam 22:13, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * (SOCK PUPPET) Policy schmolicy! I say KEEP!!  Keep keep keep keep keep!!  Ring-a-Ding-Ding Baby!!--Sinatra-iz-God 22:18, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * (SOCK PUPPET) Keep Just because someone is new to wikipedia doesn't mean they're a sock puppet--138.13.212.7 22:20, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Is your reason to keep this article that you're not a sockpuppet? That's not a very good reason, I'm afraid. Beacause of the rampant sockpuppet problem, users with 0 edits or very few edits or who haven't contributed anything of value to Wikipedia are generally ignored. It would help your case if you'd provide a decent reason to keep the article. --Blackcap | talk 22:25, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * (SOCK PUPPET) How do we really know that he isn't THE true Lion of the Law? I say we keep this one too!--Pete Mos$ 22:21, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * (SOCK PUPPET) Special thanks to LongDongHanks for posting this in support of the original article...thanks LongDong!--Dorang12 22:23, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * (SOCK PUPPET) Keep, Keep, Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep,Keep--Dorang12 22:24, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I've reconsidered from the LHP listing. BJAODeletedN.  — Lomn | Talk / RfC 22:31:39, 2005-08-24 (UTC)
 * Can't sleep, sockpuppets will eat me... can't sleep, sockpuppets will eat me... can't sleep, sockpuppets will eat me... oh, and, delete -Satori (talk) 22:35, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I just removed the "sock puppet" tag from before my vote. At least check my edit history before you try to cancel my vote... and besides, give the admins some credit. All these sock puppet tags are just making this VfD harder to read. -Satori (talk) 23:39, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sock puppets where it hurts them most. Alf 22:39, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * - I ain't no sock, take a sniff. Alf 23:55, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * (second time of removing sock puppetry from my vote) Alf 01:48, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm changing my vote too, for this and Larry H. Parker: Speedy BJAODN. JDoorjam 22:43, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * redirect to Larry H. Parker. Zoe 23:18, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * (SOCK PUPPET) Vote to KEEEEEEEEP LHP!!!--Parker for President 23:28, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

The tags were added to all the names, I assume by the author. Let's please get this over with. JDoorjam 00:18, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * DELETE sock puppetry at its best (worst?) -- Ryan Norton T 00:52, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Anyone who puts a SLASH through a keep (i.e. keep) is none other than a......SOCK PUPPET!!!!!
 * tags from User:209.150.74.25 removed. — Lomn | Talk / RfC 02:43:00, 2005-08-25 (UTC)

 * Delete as sock supported legal firm advertisement. Capitalistroadster 03:10, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete the sockpuppets have spoken. -- Etacar11   03:17, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as advertising and sockpuppetry. Users (including me) have attempted to reason with the author, but have had no success. Ground Zero | t 13:58, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Radiant_ >|< 14:25, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - sounds like a bad saturday night live skit - Tεx  τ  urε  14:28, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The odds are pretty high that there were probably SNL skits based upon the Larry H. Parker since several of the writers and comedians were originally from the LA area. Blank Verse   ∅  12:48, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete'. advertising and not notable. -- DS1953 23:12, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge My personal opinion is that his original ads were pretty cheezy, but they were a very common sight on late night TV in Los Angeles for quite awhile, and they did cause a law to be written to eliminate the mention of the amount of legal settlements in lawyer advertising in California. The Larry H. Parker article and this article should be merged together. Blank Verse   ∅  09:30, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * That's perfectly true, but the Larry H. Parker article is currently undergoing VfD and will probably be deleted, so it doesn't seem worth the effort. --Blackcap | talk 17:05, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
 * Although I'm usually more of a deletionist, this is one case that deserves to be saved. I'm not going to campaign for it, but hopefully some people will change their vote. Or, with all the sockpuppet mess (and reaction to it), perhaps the article deserves a revote. Blank Verse   ∅  12:48, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to Larry H. Parker if it doesn't get deleted... I think BlankVerse makes a good point... especially if he had influence in forcing the "law to be written to eliminate the mention of the amount of legal settlements in lawyer advertising in California". gren グレン 18:18, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge, agree with gren --fpo 21:46, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete not notable. (Ditto for Larry H. Parker.) - brenneman (t) (c)  15:42, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete NN, vanity. --tranquileye 19:31:02, 2005-08-29 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Avg annual radiation dose vs common quantities (chest X-ray, lethal dose, Chernobyl, etc) would be a nice addition. — Lomn | Talk / RfC 21:59:43, 2005-08-24 (UTC)

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Konstantin Batyushkov

Konstantin Nikolayevich Batyushkov (Константи́н Никола́евич Ба́тюшков; 29 May 1787 – 19 July 1855) was a Russian poet, essayist and translator of the Romantic era. He also served in the diplomatic corps, spending an extended period in 1818 and 1819 as a secretary to the Russian diplomatic mission at Naples.

Biography
The early years of Konstantin Batyushkov's life are difficult to reconstruct. He probably spent the first four years of his life in Vologda; the exact place he lived from 1792 to 1796 is unknown: possibly with his father, possibly with his grandfather, Lev Andreyevich Batyushkov, on their family estate, the village of Danilovskoe, Bezhetski district, Tver province. However, it was Konstantin's youth spent in St. Petersburg which played the most important part in his development as a poet.

Batyushkov's earliest extant letter from St. Petersburg is dated 6 July 1797. His first years there were spent in Pensionnats (private boarding schools). Contact with his relatives was restricted to correspondence and rare meetings. From 1797 to 1800 he studied at the Pensionnat directed by O.P. Jacquinot; it was a rather expensive school for children of good families. The curriculum included Russian, French, German, divinity, geography, history, statistics, arithmetic, chemistry, botany, calligraphy, drawing and dancing. In 1801 Batyushkov entered a Pensionnat run by an Italian, I.A. Tripoli; he graduated in 1802. It was here that Batyushkov began to study Italian. His first literary offering, however, was a translation into French of Metropolitan Platon's Address on the occasion of the coronation of Alexander I of Russia.

Early works
1802 is conventionally considered the beginning of Batyushkov's poetic career. He wrote in a letter to Nikolai Gnedich on 1 April 1810 that he had composed his first poem at the age of fifteen. Batyushkov quotes two lines; he felt that their main idea — dissatisfaction with reality and a longing for "distant lands", both geographic and spiritual — anticipated his mature work: "Муза моя, ещё девственница, угадала" (My Muse, while still a virgin, had divined it).

Batyushkov began to write poetry seriously in 1804 (at least, the dating of his first works from 1802 to 1803 is not documented). Two poems are conventionally regarded as having been written before the first published one. The first of these, "Bog" (God), is a direct imitation of Gavrila Derzhavin's spiritual odes (Echoes of Derzhavin continued to appear in Batyushkov's mature work, but as only one element of his own, highly individual, style). The other poem is "Mechta" (the title, usually translated as "Dream", can also mean "Fantasy" or "Imagination"). Never satisfied with the realization of his idea, Batyushkov reworked "Mechta" for the rest of his literary life; thus it is possible to illustrate the evolution of Batiushkov's versification and verbal style using only examples from successive wordings of this piece. Including both original and translated fragments, this piece became a manifesto of Batiushkov's own aesthetics: "Mechtan'e est' dusha poetov i stikhov" (Dreaming is the soul of poets and of verse). This brings him close to Nikolay Karamzin and the Vasily Zhukovsky, but even in "Mechta", the literary pose of an escapist and hedonist is already evident. It was most likely the programmatic nature of this, on the whole rather weak, poem that continued to hold the interest of its otherwise self-critical author.

The journals, in which Batyushkov's first poems were published, are easy to link to his personal contacts. His first poetic offering was the satirical "Poslanie k stikham moim" (Epistle to My Verses); in January 1805 it appeared in "Novosti russkoi literatury", supplement to the periodical of Moscow University.

In the army
In the autumn of 1806 Napoleon occupied Berlin and most of Prussia, Russia's ally; Alexander I declared a mass levy. On 13 January 1807 Batyushkov, with the civil rank corresponding to the twelfth class, was attached to General Nikolai Nikolaevich Tatishchev's staff. On 22 February he enlisted in the Petersburg battalion of the Militia as sotennyi (a junior officer), and immediately set out for the West. On 2 March he was in Narva, on the 19 March in Riga, from where he sent letters to Gnedich, containing an impromptu and another verse epistle. When taking part in the Prussian campaign, he met Ivan Aleksandrovich Petin, an officer, who was to become another close friend. Batyushkov fought at the battle of Gutstadt (22—27 May); on 29 May he was seriously wounded at the battle of Heilsberg. (A year later, on 20 May 1808, he was awarded the Order of St. Anne, 3rd class, for bravery.) After the battle he was transported to hospital and then to Riga where he was convalescing during June and July 1807.

In Riga, Batyushkov was living at the house of a merchant, Müguel, with whose daughter Emilie he fell in love. This episode formed the background for two poems: "Vyzdorovleniie" (Convalescence, 1815—16?), considered by Pushkin one of Batyushkov's best elegies, and "Vospominaniia 1807 goda" (Recollections of 1807), whose popularity is also testified to by Pushkin's note in his epistle "To Batyushkov" (1814). Both works strongly influenced the Russian elegy of the 1810s and 1820s.

The idea of presenting the main works of world literature in the Russian language and making them part of Russian belles lettres is characteristic of the early nineteenth century. Batyushkov might have come to similar ideas under the influence of Gnedich who was already working on his translation of the Iliad. First and foremost in importance to the literati were heroic epopees. This is why in Batyushkov's correspondence with Gnedich, "your poet" and "my poet" are Homer and Tasso, although Batyushkov considered only two extracts from his incomplete verse translation of Torquato Tasso's Gerusalemme liberata worth publishing. In his translation Batyushkov ignored the metric and stanzaic form of the Italian original, octave, and used the "classical" alexandrine.

In July 1809, he wrote his famous "Videnie na bregakh Lety" (A Vision on the Shores of the Lethe). "Videnie..." soon became widely known and brought the author a certain notoriety. In October 1809 it was sent to Gnedich who allowed to make a copy, which rapidly multiplied. Batyushkov wrote the poem following the French satirical tradition, but its material was wholly Russian: it describes a dream in which all contemporary Russian poets have unexpectedly died and turned up in Elysium; their works are immersed in the waters of the Lethe: those found wanting sink into oblivion. The Russian writers of the eighteenth century were not the main concern of the satire. In the poem, it is not only the notorious Ivan Barkov who escapes oblivion, but also Vasily Trediakovsky who was generally despised at that time. "Videnie" performs a balancing act between ridicule and obscenity, it is full of caustic allusions and offensively transformed or reinterpreted quotations. With "Videnie", Batyushkov's reputation was established; he began to regard himself as a mature and original poet, and started gathering material for a publication of his collected works.

Napoleon Invasion
On 22 April 1812 Batyushkov became an Assistant Keeper of Manuscripts at the Imperial Public Library. His colleagues included Gnedich, Krylov and Uvarov. In June he bought an apartment nearby. The quiet life ("thank God, I have wine, friends, tobacco...") was clouded only by ill-health ("I am so weak that shall not even outlive my verses").

But even now peace and calm denied Batyushkov: Napoleon invaded Russia on 12 June 1812. Batyushkov wrote to Pyotr Vyazemsky that had it not been for a fever, he would have immediately joined the army.

The scenes of destruction deeply affected him and determined his attitude to the war; he wrote to Gnedich of the French: "Barbarians! Vandals! And this nation of monsters even dares to speak of freedom, of philosophy, of philanthropy!". On 29 March Batyushkov entered military service, with the rank of junior captain. It was the events of 1812 that dictated the mood of an epistle-elegy, "K Dashkovu" (To Dashkov), a turning-point in Batyushkov's poetics and weltanschauung. The poem echoes his personal letters and expresses his feelings on seeing Moscow in ruins. The War becomes an incarnation of Evil: "Moi drug! ia videl more zla / I neba mstitel'nogo kary" (My friend! I saw a sea of evil / And wrath of the avenging heavens).

In January 1814 the Russians crossed the Rhine, entered France and moved in on the capital. The first month in Paris was an exciting time for Batyushkov. He even managed to attend a meeting of the Academy. Batyushkov's impressions were negative and he wrote on 25 April 1814 that the age of glory for French literature had passed. This letter was also a literary work; an abridged version was published by the poet's friends in 1827. In May Batyushkov fell ill, grew depressed and decided to return home. Batyushkov arrived in London in mid May and spent two weeks in England. On 25 May he was issued a passport to travel home via Sweden, and from 30 May to June was sailing from Harwich to Gothenburg. The crossing was described in a letter on 19 June 1814; Batyushkov later revised it as a traveller's sketch which was published in 1827.

1815-1817
In early January 1815 a crash of matrimonial hopes coupled with serious illness caused a nervous reaction. In March Batyushkov set off in search of spiritual healing. He spent the second week of Lent at a monastery in Tikhvin. It seems that Batyushkov experienced a religious conversion, evidence of which may be found in a poem of this year, "Nadezhda" (Hope). Apparently in the same year he composed a poem combining the motifs of love and fatal illness: "Posledniaia vesna" (The Last Spring), a free version of Charles-Hubert Millevoye's "La Chute des feuilles", one of the most popular elegies among Russian translators of the 1810s and 1820s. Another translation, "Mshchenie" (Vengeance) from Parny, was composed both as an addition to the earlier "Prividenie" (a "mirror image" of the same theme), and a possible sublimation of his disappointment in love, which was still eloquent in his poems.

In the first half of 1815 Batyushkov came to meet the young Aleksandr Pushkin at Tsarskoe Selo; in the eyes of later generations this meeting took on a historic or even symbolic meaning.

The verse volume of Opyty appeared in October 1817. It was divided into genre sections: "elegies" (opened by "Nadezhda" and concluded by a new version of "Mechta"); "epistles" (first, a "friendly" one, "Moi Penaty", and last, a "didactic" one to Murav'ev-Apostol); and "miscellanea" (a section with an undefined organizing principle, for some reason followed by three of Batiushkov's most recent works). Public recognition immediately followed. On 17 October 1817 Batyushkov became an honorary member of the "Military Society", on 18 November he was made an honorary librarian at the Public Library; and in April 1818 he became an honorary member of the "Free Society of the Lovers of Russian Letters".

Insanity and death
During 1820 Batyushkov's depression grew. In August he applied for leave to go to Germany, which was confirmed only in April 1821. From December 1820 to May 1821 he lived in Rome, then went to Teplitz for convalescence; in November he moved to Dresden. The first signs of approaching insanity were a series of quarrels on relatively insignificant grounds. In 1820 an editor of "Syn otechestva" journal, Aleksandr Voeikov, permitted himself an unauthorized publication of an epitaph by Batyushkov. The author overreacted: Batyushkov, infuriated, sent Gnedich a letter intended for "Syn otechestva", claiming he had abandoned his writing forever. Pletnev, a genuine admirer of Batyushkov, attempted to palliate his "guilt" by publishing a panegyrical "inscription" to Batyushkov — who took it as yet another insult. Batyushkov's mind became clouded, and in a fit of depression he destroyed his latest manuscripts.

On 18 September and 12 December 1821 Batyushkov applied for retirement. Instead, the Emperor Alexander I granted him indefinite leave. He came to St. Petersburg on 14 April 1822 and travelled to the Caucasus from May to July; in August he arrived in Simferopol, where, over the following months, symptoms of persecution mania became obvious. He burnt his books and three times attempted suicide. On 4 April 1823 he was sent to St. Petersburg, supervised by a doctor. For a whole year his relatives and friends looked after him. In April 1824 he wrote a completely mad letter to the Emperor with a request to enter a monastery. After a word with Zhukovsky, Alexander I decided to send the unfortunate writer for treatment at state expense. From 1824 to 1828 Batyushkov was at the "Maison de santé" in Sonnenstein (Saxony), from 1828 to 1833 in Moscow; and from 1833 onward he lived in Vologda. On 9 December 1833 the incurable Batyushkov was at last released from service and granted a life pension.

When ill, he wrote only a few incoherent texts. His final poem was written in Vologda on 14 May 1853; it is a quatrain which concludes as follows: "Ia prosypaius', chtob zasnut', / I spliu, chtob vechno prosypat'sia" (I only wake to fall asleep / And sleep, to awake without end).

He died on 7 July 1855 from typhus and was buried in the Priluki Monastery near Vologda.

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This article is well written, it has a well written lead, and it's broad in its coverage. It also has reliable references from InDOT and citations throughout the article, therefore I'm passing the article. --  JA 10  T · C 01:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree, but I don't care to find and follow the process to remove GA status, so I'll leave it. --NE2 03:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a bit short, but the road is only 12 miles long. It seems to be well cited and content complete. — Rob (  talk  ) 03:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The writing is pretty choppy, and the reason for the renumbering is unsourced. The route description could definitely be expanded, and I have a hard time believing that's all that can be written about the history. --NE2 03:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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Fort Prince George (South Carolina)

Fort Prince George was a fort constructed in 1753 in the Province of South Carolina, on the Cherokee Path across the Keowee River from the Cherokee town of Keowee. The fort was named for the Prince of Wales, who would later become King George III of the United Kingdom. It was the principal Carolinian trading post among the Cherokee "Lower Towns".

History
The fort was built on the Keowee River, across from the largest Cherokee "Lower Town", Keowee. The fort was a 200 ft square built of earth and wood with walls 12 to 15 ft high, surrounded by a deep trench. The fort's interior living area was about 100 ft square. The interior contained a guardhouse, storehouse, kitchen, magazine, barracks, and officer's quarters.

The fort served as a staging point for three British assaults on the Cherokee during the Anglo-Cherokee War. It also was the site of a siege by Cherokee warriors in February 1760, simultaneously with attacks on Ninety-Six, Fort Dobbs and Fort Loudoun. Hostilities ended in 1761, and the fort was abandoned by 1768.

The site is in modern-day Pickens County, South Carolina. In 1970, both the sites of Keowee and the fort were archaeologically excavated. This was 18 months before these sites were to be submerged by creation of Lake Keowee. It was formed by filling behind the Keowee Dam in 1971.

Some of the items discovered at the fort included:
 * three presumed Indian skeletons
 * musket and cannonballs,
 * rum bottles,
 * pieces of cooking utensils, and
 * wine glass fragments

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The Pleasure Principle (album)

The Pleasure Principle is the debut solo studio album by the English new wave musician Gary Numan, released on 7 September 1979 by Beggars Banquet Records. The album came about six months after Replicas (1979), his second and final studio album with the band Tubeway Army. The Pleasure Principle peaked at No. 1 on the UK Albums Chart.

Recording
Following Replicas, Numan recruited a permanent drummer and a keyboard player and demoed an album's worth of new material in April 1979. This was before the single "Are "Friends" Electric?" from the previous album had been released. A second session that yielded four further songs followed some weeks later. The day after "Are "Friends" Electric?" reached number one on the UK Singles Chart, Numan and his band recorded four of the new songs in a session for John Peel, credited to Gary Numan and dropping the group name Tubeway Army. By the time Replicas reached number one on the albums chart The Pleasure Principle was being recorded at Marcus Music Studio, London.

Composition and release
The Pleasure Principle has been described as featuring synth-pop, new wave, and electronica throughout. Numan completely abandoned electric guitar on the album. This change, coupled with frequent use of synthetic percussion, produced the most purely electronic and robotic sound of his career. In addition to the Minimoog synthesizer employed on his previous album, Numan made liberal use of the Polymoog keyboard, particularly its distinctive "Vox Humana" preset. Other production tricks included copious amounts of flanging, phasing and reverb, plus the unusual move of including solo viola and violin parts in the arrangements.

Lyrically, the album continued the science fiction-themes of the previous album. While not a theme album the way Replicas was, Numan has described the songs as "more of a collection of thoughts I'd had about the way technology was evolving and where it would take us."

Notable tracks included "Airlane", the lead-off instrumental; "Metal", sung from the perspective of an android longing to be human; "Films", later acknowledged as an important influence on the U.S. hip hop scene; "M.E.", standing for "Mechanical Engineering" and told from the perspective of the last machine on Earth, the electronic ballad "Complex", a UK No. 6 single; and "Cars", a worldwide synth-pop hit. "Cars" reached No. 9 in the U.S. and No. 1 in Canada, helping make The Pleasure Principle Numan's strongest North American showing, but lack of a strong commercial follow-up resulted in him being tagged as a one-hit wonder there.

"Complex", featuring an arrangement including piano, violin (played by Ultravox's Billy Currie) and viola, was chosen as the second single from the album, released in November 1979. Despite its commercial success, peaking at No. 6 in the UK during a nine week chart run, Numan later regretted the choice of it as a single and that "Metal" should have been released instead.

Title and cover image
The title of the album was taken from the surrealist painting The Pleasure Principle by René Magritte. Subtitled (A portrait of Edward James), it depicts a seated figure whose arms rest on a wooden table upon which lies a small stone, and a ball of light obliterating the figure's head. The cover image of Numan's album is an adaptation of the painting with Numan seated in the same position dressed in a similar suit, but replacing the natural materials (wood and stone) with shiny and glowing artificial objects and futuristic shapes. According to Numan it was "a clear nod towards technology. Where Magritte had a rock on a desk, for example, I had a glowing purple Perspex pyramid."

Tour
Numan toured throughout the world in support of the album with a huge stage set including banks of neon lights and twin pyramids which moved across the stage via radio control. The live show was captured on record as Living Ornaments '79 (1981) and on video as The Touring Principle. The support act on the UK leg of the tour was Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark (OMD). An expanded version of Living Ornaments '79 was issued on CD in 2005, and the final show of The Touring Principle was captured on the CD Engineers (released exclusively through Numan's official website) in 2008.

Numan performed a 16-date mini-tour dedicated to the album across the UK and Ireland during November and December 2009, similar to his previous tours for Replicas (1979) and Telekon (1980), performing the album in its entirety. Numan had been scheduled to play the 2010 Coachella Festival in Indio, California but was forced to cancel, due to the Icelandic volcano eruption that disrupted air travel. To make up for this, he embarked upon another 16-date mini-tour of the U.S. that August, again performing The Pleasure Principle in its entirety.

Reissue
Of the bonus tracks later included on CD reissues, "Random" and "Oceans" were instrumental outtakes from The Pleasure Principle sessions, originally issued on vinyl with other previously unreleased tracks in 1985, while "Asylum" was the instrumental B-side of the "Cars" vinyl single. The live versions of "Me! I Disconnect From You" and "Bombers", which appeared as B-sides of "Complex", were recorded on tour and later made available in their original context on the expanded Living Ornaments '79 CD, along with "Remember I Was Vapour" and "On Broadway". The latter two tracks were first released as a promotional single shipped with early pressings of the album Telekon in 1980; Numan's cover version of the classic "On Broadway" was dominated by a characteristic synthesizer solo by then-former (and soon-to-be-again) Ultravox band member Billy Currie.

Critical reception
Robert Christgau of The Village Voice described The Pleasure Principle as "Metal Machine Music goes easy-listening," continuing: "This time he's singing about robots, engineers, and isolation. In such a slight artist, these things make all the difference."

Smash Hits reviewer Red Starr found the album to be "not bad, mind you — a smoother, almost discoish version of Replicas — but much too similar to it and not as adventurous".

In a retrospective review, AllMusic's Greg Prato opined that The Pleasure Principle was distinguished by the consistent quality of its songs and the presence of drummer Cedric Sharpley, who "adds a whole new dimension with his powerful percussion work." Prato concluded, "If you had to own just one Gary Numan album, The Pleasure Principle would be it."

Track listing
All tracks written by Gary Numan, except where noted.

Side one
 * 1) "Airlane" – 3:18
 * 2) "Metal" – 3:32
 * 3) "Complex" – 3:12
 * 4) "Films" – 4:09
 * 5) "M.E." – 5:37

Side two
 * 1) "Tracks" – 2:51
 * 2) "Observer" – 2:53
 * 3) "Conversation" – 7:36
 * 4) "Cars" – 3:58
 * 5) "Engineers" – 4:01

CD bonus tracks
 * 1) "Random" (demo) – 3:49
 * 2) "Oceans" (demo) – 3:03
 * 3) "Asylum" (B-side of "Cars") – 2:31
 * 4) "Me! I Disconnect from You" (Live) – 3:06
 * 5) "Bombers" (Live) – 5:46
 * 6) "Remember I Was Vapour" (Live)* – 4:46
 * 7) "On Broadway" (Live) (Jerry Leiber, Mike Stoller, Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil) – 4:48

30th Anniversary Edition
To coincide with The Pleasure Principle 30th Anniversary Tour, a special edition of the album was released on 21 September 2009.

Disc one
 * 1) "Airlane"
 * 2) "Metal"
 * 3) "Complex"
 * 4) "Films"
 * 5) "M.E."
 * 6) "Tracks"
 * 7) "Observer"
 * 8) "Conversation"
 * 9) "Cars"
 * 10) "Engineers"

Disc two
 * 1) "Airlane" (Demo Version)
 * 2) "Metal" (Demo Version)
 * 3) "Complex" (Demo Version)
 * 4) "Films" (Demo Version)
 * 5) "M.E." (Demo Version)
 * 6) "Tracks" (Outtake Mix)
 * 7) "Observer" (Demo Version)
 * 8) "Conversation" (Demo Version 2)
 * 9) "Cars" (Demo Version)
 * 10) "Engineers" (Demo Version)
 * 11) "Random" (2009 Remaster)
 * 12) "Oceans" (2009 Remaster)
 * 13) "Asylum" (2009 Remaster)
 * 14) "Photograph" (2009 Remaster)
 * 15) "Gymnopedie No. 1" (Demo Version)
 * 16) "Conversation" (Demo Version 1)
 * 17) "M.E." (Outtake Mix)

Disc three (Bonus tracks only available on the 3CD version available from the Numan website)
 * 1) "Down in the Park" (The Live EPs – 1980)
 * 2) "On Broadway" (The Live EPs – 1980)
 * 3) "Everyday I Die" (The Live EPs – 1980)
 * 4) "Remember I Was Vapour" (The Live EPs – 1980)
 * 5) "Bombers" (The Live EPs – 1980)
 * 6) "Me! I Disconnect from You" (The Live EPs – 1979)
 * 7) "Conversation" (The Live EPs – 1979)
 * 8) "Metal" (The Live EPs – 1979)
 * 9) "Down in the Park" (The Live EPs – 1979)
 * 10) "Airlane" (Living Ornaments '79)
 * 11) "Cars" (Living Ornaments '79)
 * 12) "We Are So Fragile" (Living Ornaments '79)
 * 13) "Films" (Living Ornaments '79)
 * 14) "Something's in the House" (Living Ornaments '79)
 * 15) "My Shadow in Vain" (Living Ornaments '79)
 * 16) "Conversation" (Living Ornaments '79)
 * 17) "The Dream Police" (Living Ornaments '79)
 * 18) "Metal" (Living Ornaments '79)

40th Anniversary Edition
To celebrate the 40th Anniversary of the release of The Pleasure Principle, a special edition of the album, The Pleasure Principle: The First Recordings was released on 11 October 2019. Released on 2 LP coloured vinyl and 2 CD editions.

CD 1
 * 1) "Cars" (Demo Version 2)
 * 2) "Films" (Demo Version)
 * 3) "Complex" (Demo Version)
 * 4) "Random" (Remastered 2009)
 * 5) "M.E." (Demo Version)
 * 6) "Conversation" (Demo Version 2)
 * 7) "Tracks" (Demo Version 1)
 * 8) "Cars" (Demo Version 1)
 * 9) "Metal" (Demo Version)
 * 10) "Airlane" (Demo Version)
 * 11) "Trois Gymnopédies No.1" (Demo)
 * 12) "Observer" (Demo Version)
 * 13) "Conversation" (Demo Version 1)
 * 14) "Engineers" (Demo Version)
 * 15) "Asylum" (Remastered 2009)
 * 16) "Oceans" (Remastered 2009)
 * 17) "Photograph" (Remastered 2009)

CD 2
 * 1) "Airlane" (BBC Peel Session)
 * 2) "Cars" (BBC Peel Session)
 * 3) "Films" (BBC Peel Session)
 * 4) "Conversation" (BBC Peel Session)
 * 5) "Tracks" (Outtake mix)
 * 6) "Complex" (Outtake mix)
 * 7) "M.E." (Outtake mix)
 * 8) "Engineers" (Outtake mix)
 * 9) "Airlane" (Outtake mix)
 * 10) "Cars" (Outtake mix)

Personnel
Credits are adapted from The Pleasure Principle liner notes.

 * Gary Numan – vocals; synthesizers (Minimoog, Polymoog, ARP Odyssey); synthetic percussion (Synare 3)
 * Paul Gardiner – bass
 * Chris Payne – keyboards (Minimoog, Polymoog, piano); viola
 * Cedric Sharpley – drums, percussion
 * Billy Currie – fadeout violin on "Tracks" and "Conversation"
 * Garry Robson – backing vocals on "Conversation"

Legacy
"Metal" was covered by Nine Inch Nails on Things Falling Apart (2000), Thought Industry on Recruited to Do Good Deeds for the Devil (1998) and Afrika Bambaataa on Dark Matter Moving at the Speed of Light (2004), and used as backing for Planet Funk's "Who Said".

"Films" is acknowledged by Bambaataa as an important influence on the U.S. hip hop scene. "M.E." was used as backing for Basement Jaxx's "Where's Your Head At".

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Talk:Indiana Toll Road

History links
In case linkrot sets in, the South Bend article linked (twice) in the History section through footnotes is entitled "Indiana's toll road seen as link in a chain" (January 22, 2006).

Marc Fannin, www.roadfan.com (responsible for some, but not all, edits originating from User:198.30.228.3 - now user:Mapsax) (wikilink added 2009-04-03)

I-90/94 switch
My comment about the I-90/I-94 switch in the history section is based on map research and comments in the Usenet newsgroup misc.transport.road, searchable through Google Groups. Mapsax 21:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Old control cities
My comment about the old control city legends is from memory. If a backup is needed, one may contact the Indiana Department of Transportation as it's likely that they have photographic or textual proof somewhere in their archives. Mapsax 18:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Enhancement to list of interchanges
How about including the "shield" emblems for all US and State Highways at which the Toll Road has interchanges (i.e., State Route 53, State Route 49, etc.)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.86.240.73 (talk • contribs).

Private Toll road
Does anyone know if this road was built and maintained without federal funding- because otherwise it could not get a designation as an Interstate while maintaining a private toll?John celona (talk) 23:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

 * It’s kinda weird, the road is maintained by the ITRCC which is a subsidiary of IFM Investors, an Australian company, but obviously that’s on the other side of the world, so the Indiana DOT definitely had to help it out, plus it’s a major road in Indiana, plus heavily traveled on in between Chicago and Cleveland, so the state govt helped out on building the highway, with some help from the federal gov thanks to Eisenhower’s highway act. A bunch of portions of interstates are privately owned like the NJ turnpike or Mass Pike, so unless there’s a weird exception to this, it is federally overlooked. Apologies for the long answer to a 2008 question but there you go. Jason Ingtonn (talk) 22:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

 * I think you got everything wrong in your comments here, and a quick read of the article and Interstate Highway System answers most of the question posited above.
 * Construction of the toll road predates the Interstate Highway System. As such, it could not be federally financed with the system. The highway was built and initially operated by the Indiana Toll Road Commission, an agency of the State of Indiana. When the Interstate Highway System was initially designated, various toll roads, including this one, were grandfathered into the system to provide connectivity without duplicating corridors. Later, responsibility for the highway passed to the Indiana Department of Transportation. It is still owned by the State of Indiana, however it has been leased to private companies for maintenance. The companies paid an upfront leasing fee in exchange for the ability to collect the toll revenue for 75 years. In short, ITRCC had nothing to do with the construction of this highway and didn't even exist in the 1950s.  Imzadi 1979  →   23:49, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the corrections, I looked into it before typing and was rather confused since it seemed like maintenance flip flopped between the DOT and ITRCC, it also seemed like the original question was asked during a transition period which may have changed since then. Jason Ingtonn (talk) 14:23, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

New exit list template errors
With the template added, there are now errors which I don't know how to correct because I'm unfamiliar with the template.

 * "Broadway" (Exit 14B) is being interpreted to be a place, not a street, and therefore is linking to the nonexistent Broadway, Indiana.

 * Some U.S. highways do not yet have "U.S. Route xx in [state]" articles yet, such as US-421 (Exit 39), so the link is red and I can't figure out how to change the link to U.S. Route 421.

 * Niles, Michigan (Exit 72) is linked as the nonexistent Niles, Indiana. (Note my edit then revert.)

 * Business U.S. 31 South Bend is represented on Bannered routes of U.S. Route 31 which needs to be pipe-linked in the Business 31 entry (Exit 77).

Mapsax (talk) 23:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Toll increases from privatizing
What has been the impact of selling the toll collection and maintenance on fares? Mulp (talk) 01:06, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Tolls have gone up.

 * It looks to me like the automobile toll was $4.65 in 2006 (indeed, all the way back to 1985), the year the Indiana Toll Road was leased to a private company. In 2008, when electronic toll booths were installed, the toll for cars paying in cash was raised to $8, but remained $4.65 for electronic toll payers, where they will remain until 2016.

 * The agreement allows the Indiana Toll Road operator to increase the toll by 2% annually, but critics delayed application of the annual increase until last year, at which time the deferred increases were applied, raising the car cash toll 10% to $8.80. My spreadsheet suggests that the car cash toll will go up to $9 in July 2011.

 * Actually the formula for the anual increase is more generous than I described: it is the greater of {2%, CPI change, and per-capita GDP change}. (Weird, huh? They get at least 2%, good times or bad, and they are protected from inflation ... and if the economy is growing, well, they get a piece of that action too!  Must be nice ...)

 * I've gone on long enough ... so I won't go into truck tolls.

 * Peterhoneyman (talk) 00:11, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Interchange names
I'm asking for a source for these names and their usage. Unlike the Pennsylvania Turnpike, I'm not aware that the interchange names are signed. The PATP has them on the bottom of the guide signs for each exit, yet I don't recall something similar for the ITR. So, how are the names used?
 * Ok, I got a source for the names, but not their usage. Are the names actually signed and in use? If they're toll-ticket only, I'm going to say that the entire column needs to be removed because their not on the signs.  Imzadi 1979  →   01:53, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have removed the coding needed to display the names, but left their definitions in place. Like I said before, if they're not used on signage, they shouldn't be in the table.  Imzadi 1979  →   19:35, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW, I did the removal under the auspices of WP:BRD. Someone else was bold, I have now reverted, and it's time to discuss. I'm still waiting for proof that these names are used on more than an website listing and actually used on signage along the road. Show me a sign similar to File:PA TPK EB 1 mi to Willow Grove.JPG which has the "Willow Grove" name on the actual guide sign for exit 343 along the PATP. If you can produce such a sign for the ITR, then you have my support for including the column. If not, I oppose the inclusion of such a column.  Imzadi 1979  →   20:49, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * They're only on the toll tickets. I support the removal. Spell4yr (talk) 16:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Cash collection actual start date
The source says that the cash section started with the 1986 computer system implementation but there would probably have been no reason to wait to convert to cash during the delay the two years prior. Mapsax (talk) 23:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Label alternate name as I-90
If you look at the page for massachusetts turnpike (i 90 in mass) it has Interstate 90 as a secondary/ alternate name, with the interstate shield logo next to the logo for the turnpike, at the header for the top infobox.

I’m suggesting here that do the same for the Indiana Toll Road page for the infobox, it makes sense to have it like that, but I tried and it was undone, being told it’s redundant, but I don’t think it is, since it’s a secondary name, it should be made perfectly clear.

Lemme know what you think or if there’s any other cons to setting it as such Jason Ingtonn (talk) 20:31, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

 * It is redundant to the Component highways listing in the infobox. There's a minor distinction between the Indiana Toll Road and the Massachusetts Turnpike. While I-90 is coextensive with both, I-80 overlaps a significant portion of the toll road in Indiana. That's why I-80 and I-90 are listed as component highways for the toll road.  Imzadi 1979   →   20:36, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, i didn’t know that Jason Ingtonn (talk) 22:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

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Why did Corrigan run for the Prohibition Party? What were his views on alcohol and religion? —Theo (Talk) 23:12, 27 November 2005 (UTC) - As the story goes, Corrigan was refused permission for his transatlantic flight because the aircraft was declared unfit for it by CAB, so he claimed he was going back to California, & crossed anyhow. Trekphiler 01:17, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Do you have a source the story?—Theo (Talk) 16:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I wish. At the time, I wasn't reading to use it as a source. (The story of my life...) I think there's a Guinness book of aviation firsts or records, tho; it might be in there.  Trekphiler 21:28 & 21:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Hi folks. Better late than never to the thread, I suppose!  Douglas Corrigan is a somewhat distant cousin of mine (2nd cousin twice removed).  I have some more information about him, a lot of which (IIRC) came from his "That's My Story" book, as well as from stories from other family members.  The story as I remember it is that all solo trans-Atlantic flight was banned at the time by the precursor to the FAA, in large part due to the investigation into the fairly recent 'loss at sea' of Amelia Earhart (although I doubt that his plane would have passed muster even if he did register with his Dublin flightplan!) I will try to dig up my sources and add some more info to the page at my earliest convenience. Any other comments about this or evidence to the contrary are welcomed. --Toniskids (talk) 07:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Engine type
The reference:

"Having installed an engine built from two old Wright J65 engines (affording 165 horsepower (123 kW) instead of the 90 hp (67 kW) of the original"

Is incorrect in that the J-65 is a turbine engine. Even if Wright reused the J-65 nomenclature (I personally do not know if they did) the link in the article goes to the Wright J-65 turbine. Trevor Heath January 2nd 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by TrevorHeath (talk • contribs) 17:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I have reverted to the original designation "J6-5", which denotes a much earlier model than the J65 turbine.—Theo (Talk) 14:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

The J-6 Whirlwind came in 5, 7, and 9-cylinder versions, differing primarily in the number of cylinders, thus a J6-5 would be the 165-175 hp 5-cylinder version. WHL

"Corrigan was disappointed that his hero never acknowledged his achievement"
Who is his hero, Lindberg? –xenotalk 15:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

 * I had the same exact question, after reading that section of this article.  (64.252.65.146 (talk) 17:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC))

 * I think it's clear from the context that his "hero" was Lindbergh. Here's the original sentence as it reads as of 9 Dec 2012:  "More people attended his Broadway ticker-tape parade than had honored LINDBERGH (emphasis added) after his triumph, but Corrigan was disappointed that his hero never acknowledged his achievement."  What confuses me more is, WHICH achievement Lindbergh allegedly never acknowledged:  his "wrong way" flight itself, or the fact that more people attended his NYC ticker-tape parade than they did Lindbergh's?  If it was the latter, that seems rather petty to me, even if I am related to Corrigan.  He was, however, a good friend of Lindbergh's before Lindbergh became famous, and I suspect that he may have felt somewhat abandoned by Lindbergh in general after the latter achieved his fame and fortune. Toniskids (talk) 00:26, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

 * From the article under "Later Life"...."Although he did not immediately acknowledge the accomplishment, Charles Lindbergh wrote a friendly four-page handwritten letter to Corrigan in 1939 after Corrigan sent him a copy of the autobiography." Flight Risk (talk) 20:37, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Admission
After Corrigan was "punished" and before he died, did he ever admit that his trans-Atlantic flight was intentional? Or did he maintain until his death that it was navigational error? At some point as he got older and neared death — and feared no reprisal from authorities — he could have clarified the situation. He could have maintained that the flight was due to error, or that it was intentional all along. Did he ever make any subsequent statement, either affirming or refuting his original statement? Thanks. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 17:14, 3 July 2010 (UTC))

 * No, I don't think he ever made any statement either way. To the best of my knowledge, although I never met him, my cousin Corrigan always maintained that he intended to fly east to California, and simply went the wrong way.  I firmly believe, however, that his title "That's My Story" (with the affix "And I'm Sticking To It" - which became a trademark family saying - implied) was a tongue-in-cheek wink and nod to the fact that he knew what he was doing all along - but he never admitted to it, lest he get in more trouble.  I would welcome any further insight if anyone has personal knowledge or sufficient documentation of it. Toniskids (talk) 00:32, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I lived in Dublin in 1972/3, and spent some time at the airfield where Corrigan landed. I talked to a Customs official who had met Corrigan upon his landing, who told me that Corrigan admitted to him that his flight was no wrong way, and got him to swear he'd never mention it to anybody. Well he mentiond it to me. I guess the passage of time softened the memory. And he certainly cleared Irish customs. JohnClarknew (talk) 02:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

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Douglas Corrigan
I found this as a random stub and have spent an evening expanding it. I am looking for style notes more than anything else. —Theo (Talk) 22:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I would love to help, but I can't think of anything you should add. Was he ever the subject or part of a book or film? - Mgm|(talk) 12:40, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Just having your confirmation of its apparent comprehensiveness is a help. Thank you. I have now clarified the first sentence of ==Later life== to read: "Corrigan wrote his autobiography within months of his flight and helped RKO Studios produce The Flying Irishman, a movie about his life, in 1939." —Theo (Talk) 14:15, 25 August 2005 (UTC)


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Hebereke

Hebereke (へべれけ) is a video game series developed by Sunsoft that was released primarily in Japan, with a few releases in Europe and one release in North America. It was one of the company's main franchises during the 1990s.

Hebe, the main character of the series, became Sunsoft's main mascot during this period, appearing on the company's logo in several games and commercials. The series features a comical, yet surreal setting and characters. The title of the series comes from a Japanese colloquialism for drunkenness. The series covers several different genres from platforming to puzzle, though they are all set in the same fictional universe. Although there are 9 games in the series, only 3 of them were released outside of Japan: Ufouria: The Saga for the NES, Hebereke's Popoon for the SNES, and Hebereke's Popoitto for the SNES, PlayStation, and Sega Saturn. All three of these games were only released in Japan and Europe, with no North American release, although Ufouria: The Saga would be released on the Wii Virtual Console in North America almost 18 years later, and on the Wii U Virtual Console in North America almost 22 years later.

The first Hebereke game for the Nintendo Entertainment System was released in the PAL region under the title of Ufouria: The Saga, which changed the names of the main characters, while two of them had their looks changed. A North American release was planned, but canceled alongside Mr. Gimmick due to its quirky character design; however, the PAL region version was later added to the Wii Virtual Console in North America. A later set of games for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System were also released under the Hebereke title, which retained the original names and looks from the Japanese version.

List of games
Developer Sunsoft used the characters and world featured in Hebereke in a series of games for Family Computer, Super Famicom, Sega Saturn, PlayStation, coin-operated arcades and mobile phones.

Cameos

 * The Hebereke characters made a cameo appearance in Sunsoft's Mega Drive port of Lemmings, appearing in level 18 of the "Sunsoft" setting.
 * O-Chan appears on one of the courts in Yeh Yeh Tennis (Wai Wai Tennis 2 in Japan) for the PlayStation.
 * Hebereke was listed as a graphics designer in the credits of Journey to Silius in 1990.
 * Hebe appears as art on a snowboard in the Sunsoft-published dating sim Photo Genic for the PC-98, PlayStation, and Saturn.
 * The characters from Hebereke made an appearance in Barcode World, along with other Sunsoft characters, but only as cards that come with the game.
 * Hebe appears as a random encounter in Benkei Gaiden: Suna no Shō, having the highest granting experience in the entire game.
 * In Honō no Tōkyūji: Dodge Danpei, there is an extra secret password, HEBE, that gives the player a menu to view all game cutscenes, including the ending.
 * In the Shanghai series, the Hebereke characters made a cameo appearance in its mobile spin-off entry, Shanghai Musume: Mahjong Girls.
 * The characters from Hebereke appeared as guest characters as downloadable content in the remake of Penguin Wars for the Nintendo Switch on 2017 in Japan.

Comic strip
Ryōji Uchimichi, the series' character designer, drew a yonkoma manga series based on the games that were serialized by Tokuma Shoten in the Japanese magazine Family Computer Magazine (also known as "Famimaga" for short) since September 6, 1991. On September 3, 1993, the strip had its title changed to Sugoi Hebereke (すごい へべれけ), which was eventually used for a fighting game for the Super Famicom. On September 30, 1995, the first two years' worth of strips were reprinted in a collection titled Hebereke no Hon (へべれけのほん), but the remaining strips were never republished. It was eventually christened Pemopemo (ぺもぺも) on April 21, 1997, before getting cancelled on March 20, 1998, following the discontinuation of Famimaga.

A yonkoma manga series based on the Hebereke games, titled Dai Eppyō (だいえっぴょー), was released on August 12, 2013, being published by Comic Market in Japan.

Original soundtrack
On June 25, 1994, a soundtrack titled Takusan Hebereke (たくさんへべれけ) was released, published by DATAM Polystar. It featured original versions of the music from the first three Hebereke games: Hebereke, Hebereke's Popoon and Sugoi Hebereke. It also includes those from another Sunsoft game, Gimmick! (known in Europe as Mr. Gimmick). The soundtrack was composed by Naoki Kodaka, Phaseout & Mutec, and Masashi Kageyama, and was arranged by Hitoshi Sakimoto.

Characters
The series sports characters and graphics that are typically Japanese cuteness in design, done in the style of Bomberman, The New Zealand Story, and particularly Hello Kitty.

The series primarily involves a cast of four main characters: Hebe, O-Chan, Sukezaemon, and Jennifer. It also involves four notable minor characters: Bobodori, Pen-Chan, Utsujin, and Unyohn.

Major characters
Hebe (sometimes referred to as "Hebereke", Bop-Louie in Ufouria)

Voiced by: Megumi Hayashibara

Hebe (へべ), known in Ufouria as Bop-Louie, is a small white albino penguin (a living snowman in Ufouria). He is seen wearing a blue knit cap with a white pom-pom in it. He is the fastest in terms of speed, but he doesn't jump as high, can't walk on ice, and also cannot swim. He could extend his neck to attack enemies using the Kubidokkan attack. He can also climb using a suction cup. He usually end his sentences with "pyō" (ぴょー). His first-person pronoun in Japanese is "wachi" (わち).

O-Chan (Freeon-Leon in Ufouria)

Voiced by: Mika Kanai

O-Chan (おーちゃん), known in Ufouria as Freeon-Leon, is a little girl dressed with a cat suit (a male lizard in Ufouria). Unlike Hebe, she is able to swim in water and safely walk on ice without slipping.  She has a high-flying personality and has a high laugh. Her first-person pronoun in Japanese is "watakushi" (わたくし).

Sukezaemon (Shades in Ufouria)

Voiced by: Norio Wakamoto

Sukezaemon, known in Ufouria as Shades, is a white ghost with black sunglasses and a red winged cap. With his light body, he can drift in the air for a long time. He also has a serious personality and is moslty polite. His first-person pronoun in Japanese is "sessha".

Jennifer (Gil in Ufouria)

Voiced by: Shigeru Chiba

Jennifer, known in Ufouria as Gil, is a green anglerfish with a yellow antenna. He's an underwater expert, being able to walk underwater. He speaks badly, but is kind-tempered. His first-person pronoun in Japanese is "oira".

Minor characters
Bobodori

Voiced by: Shigeru Chiba

Bobodori (ぼーぼーどり) is a male purple bird. His first-person pronoun in Japanese is "oira".

Pen-Chan

Voiced by: Megumi Hayashibara

Pen-Chan (ぺんちゃん) is a little girl dressed with a penguin suit. She doesn't have a first person pronoun in Japanese, instead using her name.

Utsujin

Voiced by: Norio Wakamoto

Utsujin (うつーじん) is a male orange cat wearing an alien suit, being part of the Muu Cat Brothers clan. He usually starts his sentences with "muū" (むうー). He doesn't have a first person pronoun in Japanese, instead using Utsū (うつー), an abbreviation of his name.

Unyohn

Voiced by: Norio Wakamoto

Unyohn (うにょーん) is an alien wearing a helmet. His color palette depends on the game. His first-person pronoun in Japanese is "washi" (わし).

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was page moved. —harej (talk) (cool!) 04:51, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Lakehead Pipeline → Enbridge Pipeline System — Is it correct to call this pipeline system Lakehead Pipeline? It is more commonly known as Enbridge pipeline system. The name Lakehead System applies only to the US part of the Enbridge System. Therefore, I propose to rename this article Enbridge Pipeline System. Beagel (talk) 16:00, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
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Possible graphics
This SEC filing has some potentially useful maps in it: http://google.brand.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?FetchFilingHTML1?ID=6511335&SessionID=mns-FFAQq_SWFP7

Not sure about the copyright status of such things...

--Ilnyckyj (talk) 04:56, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

self-linking
Why do the references link to this same wikipedia entry? ( Martin | talk • contribs 17:59, 6 March 2015 (UTC))

Line 10 says 91 miles (into the USA, Western New Work, across Grand Island, and then along the Youngman and Thruway to the 400)
But the distance as a bird flies from the two end points is 100 miles, but the map shows the pipeline ending in West Seneca south of Buffalo, not south of Jamestown. Also Line 10 has spur down to Lake Ontario to a decommissioned coal power plant. Is that length included in the 91 miles? It is not clear where the end of the pipeline is. I have seen references to a pumping station in Williamsvile NY, but no idea where that could be - well I assume it is "near" the airport actually, but no evidence. ( Martin | talk • contribs 20:10, 8 March 2015 (UTC))

References needs editting
The significant source of references of articles are from the Enbridge website, notably, references 1 and 3. These would not count as independent sources and thus are not suitable to use. These references also do not link to the information that is described in the citation but merely links to the home website.

References 2 and 17 are broken links and either needs to be found or removed.

References 4-8, 11,13 are not actual references and merely link to the Wiki article itself

References 14 and 18 are from a climate news organizations that may include a bias towards an oil pipeline system.

More sources are needed that are independent and neutral are needed to verify the information in this article. There are various facts mentioned in the article that lack proper citation. The entire table on each line needs a verifiable source for each entry.

Meryssa.tran (talk) 00:45, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Consolidation or cross-referencing of Wiki pages needed
I noticed there are many pages regarding to the Enbridge Pipelines, oil spills, as well as the Wiki page of the Enbridge company itself. The oil spills and incident section needs to stay consistent with these other pages or need to be consolidated into one page, as the information between these pages are not consistent (i.e. there are oil spill incidents that are missing in this page that are shown in other pages). Meryssa.tran (talk) 02:01, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Citation 1 Dead Link
Needs to be found, removed, or replaced please Hmthorner (talk) 03:56, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

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