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Talk:2007–08 NHL season

False info on jerseys
that quote on them being the first league wide innovation in North America is false, the first to do a league wide change of uniforms (by reebox again) was the Canadian Football League in 2005.
 * Do you have a source? Jmlk  1  7  23:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Predictions
Please don't make predictions on the article page. Post predictions here on the talk page if you must, or better yet, go to http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/forum?room=nhl Hoopydink  22:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Note: That link no longer works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregdox (talk • contribs) 18:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, link was added here nearly 18 months ago though. :) Jmlk  1  7  12:09, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

New Jerseys?
I thought they still had to be voted on by the GMs- is that wrong? Because if that hasn't happened yet, we should change will to may in that sentence. Cptjeff 03:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure it's all set and ready for this new season. Jmlk  1  7  23:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Games in September
With the Ducks and Kings set to play in London in September, wouldn't this mark the first time the NHL has held regular season games in September? Kaiser matias 21:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not sure...perhaps. :) Jmlk  1  7  07:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, the regular season always started in October. I know that preseason is always in September. --Alien joe 20:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

League Business vs. Regular Season
What exactly is the difference? The two notes about the outdoor game and the London game should go under Regular Season because they are about Regular Season games. I don't understand the split we have here. Thunderstix33 03:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * They probably should be together. Jmlk  1  7  06:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Debuts
I have removed the section because right now it is based entirely on speculation and POV. It's one thing to add a debut section for a finished season where you know which players became "of note", but at this point it's really POV. -- Scorpion0422 00:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't think the 1st overall selection counts? Jmlk  1  7  02:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I admit that he does, but if the section is there just for Patrick Kane and Erik Johnson, then soon people are going to start adding other players, who really haven't done anything of note yet. So, I think it would be best to leave the section out until the end of the season. -- Scorpion0422 02:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, alright. You're probably right anyway... Kane might not stay up in the NHL, or something else may happen.  :)  Jmlk  1  7  02:42, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I've re-added the debuts, and the top 5 that I can think of Bwilkins (talk) 12:09, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Please stop changing Nicklas Backstrom's first name. "Niklas" is a goalie with Minnesota. "Nicklas" is a player with Washington who was a rookie this year.Bwilkins (talk) 18:50, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You might want to add a comment on the article as well, explaining the situation. :) Jmlk  1  7  19:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Standings and playoff status
Have we planned a way to denote playoff statuses in the standings table templates? Detroit just clinched, LA is a game away from being eliminated... colors, Xs and Ys, etc? Colors would conflict with the highlighting in teams individual season articles. I say change that highlighting to bold text and use colors like 2006-07 NHL season (and maybe use red for eliminated teams while the season is still in progress).ccwaters (talk) 11:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe the best would be letters. As you said, Colors will conflict with highlighting.  X for clinched playoff spot, Y for clinched conference division, Z for Presidents Cup conference, perhaps E for eliminated.  I was going to look into this this weekend as I realized when I updated the Western conf last night that Detroit had clinched, however had not time because I had to get some sleep before going to work early this morning.  Pparazorback (talk) 22:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Check it out now, I added playoff formatting. -Pparazorback (talk) 23:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's worth emphasizing how the NHL styles the various accomplishments. Specifically, teams raise banners signifying that they won the "[Name] Division Championship," "[Name] Conference Regular Season Championship," and "Presidents' Trophy." MrArticleOne (talk) 17:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

By the way, do we really need conference and division standings? None of the previous season article have them, nor did I ever remember last season's article having one at any time. Wouldn't it be easier to just move the playoff symbols and conference ranking numbers to the division standings so there's a few less extra tables to update every night? NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 06:34, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That was discussed earlier when the conference standings were created. If the conference ranking numbers were put in the divisional standings, then every division would have to be updated even if no team played because their ranking may change.  Unless every editor updates each division, then the numbers are willy nilly.  -Pparazorback (talk) 02:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Now that the regular season is over and the standings no longer need to be updated, can we get rid of the conference standings now? NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 03:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Islanders are mathematically eliminated.
Ok, this is hard to be proven but here is how it works. 1)If the Islanders win all their 6 remaining games, they will be at 85 points, one point better than the Bruins. They can only go higher than the Bruins to make the playoffs.

2)But the Bruins aren't the team they need to catch, because they will play twice against the Sabres and the best case scenario (for the Islanders) gives the Sabres 85 points as the eight placed team. Yet again, the Islanders would be ahead of the Sabres because they would get more wins in that case. So the Islanders would still have a shot or would they?

3)But the Sabres have to play the Leafs once and the Bruins have to play the Leafs twice and if the Leafs lose one of this matches, it gives the Sabres or the Bruins 86 points or more. If the Leafs win all their matches, it would put the Leafs at 86 points, one more than what the Islanders can get.

I don't think someone can find a counterargument, unless there is a rule in the NHL that tolerates two teams to lose the same game. --65.94.184.88 (talk) 02:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Agreed. I looked at Boston and Buffalo and found the scenario that would keep the Islanders mathematically in it, but did not consider Toronto.  You are correct that no scenario exists that would keep all three of these teams under 86 points, thus the Islanders that can only get to 85 points with 6 wins are indeed eliminated. -Pparazorback (talk) 02:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Standings - correction
Colorado Avalanche have 95 points (not 94, as it is currently noted in the article) after the end of the regular season, so they take the 6th seed without a need for the tiebreaker. I don't know how to edit standings tables, so please someone edit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.164.229.102 (talk) 12:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Playoff Bracket
I believe the bracket is incorrect. In its current form it would possibly pit the #1 and #2 seeds in the Conference Semifinal. It should be that they would be pitted in the Conference Final (if they survive to it). I don't know how to edit it, so if some could use the CBSSports as source for the correct order. --Laisak (talk) 11:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I figured out how it works now. I hope I didn't brake it. --Laisak (talk) 08:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Patience
Let's all wait until the Conference Quarter-Finals have completed, before we re-seed the teams. GoodDay (talk) 13:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Final Goaltender Stats
I guess there is always some contention about listing the "top" goalies. For example, Dan Ellis from Nashville had the best Save Percentage in the league (and played 44 games). There should be a better breakdown of goalies by the key indicators.Bwilkins (talk) 11:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Debuts "Of Note"
What is our actual DEFINITION of "of note" when it comes to debut players. I see names that sure, may have played a good part of a season, but are they "of note"?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwilkins (talk • contribs) 00:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This is why I always thought we should wait a few years. It was easy for past years as we typically used people who eventually entered the hall of fame. But the typical creep occurred and people wanted to put the debuts section on the new seasons as well and so there was no definition for those players. Personally I would only put people who were nominated for rookie of the year until its far enough away that you can start adding people based on HoF careers. -Djsasso (talk) 13:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * heh ... are you coming back to edit this specific article in 15 years? LOL Bwilkins (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No but its hardly easy to decide which players are more notable than another player since all players who played professional are considered notable by wiki standards. -Djsasso (talk) 15:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

References on "Last Games"
Ok, there have been a few "rumours" of certain players retiring, then actually not, and others being added to this list that I had actually never heard that they were indeed retiring (or going to Europe!). Because of this, I started using the REF on each last game that was added - after all, everything needs to be verifiable, right?! Bwilkins (talk) 11:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Linden & Tarnstrom aren't coming back to the NHL? GoodDay (talk) 15:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Tarnstrom is 33, and is signed to play for AIK next season - not likely to return. Lidstrom treated the last half of last season as if it was his last, and the experts seem to agree. Bwilkins (talk) 15:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Lidstrom??? GoodDay (talk) 17:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * He means Linden. -Djsasso (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I undestand Tarnstrom's situation (his leaving for Europe). But, Linden hasn't retired or said he was gonna play in another League. Having him on the list is premature IMHO. GoodDay (talk) 17:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Technically I think both are premature. I am not sure that Tarnstrom should even be on the list to begin with. Is he notable enough? Personally the only people I think of when seeing people on that list are people that are going to have shots at the hall of fame. -Djsasso (talk) 17:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, so far the list is open to anyone (noting other NHL season articles). Also, it would be difficult to restrict to possible HHOFers, as that couldn't be done with the First game entries. GoodDay (talk) 17:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem is that using the word notable is POV, as anyone who has played a professional game is notable per wiki standard. So you need some sort of objective line drawn in the sand. Personally I find the easiest being people going into the HHOF. Or atleast people that were voted on, tho I can't remember if hockey releases those stats. First game entries is even simpler, you restrict it to people who went up for rookie of the year or won a major award during their career. As is or was last time I looked the people we had listed on this page were only the rookie nominies and the top goalie. And then once you get to a point where the peoples careers are ending you add in those who meet the hhof criteria to the first game list as well. -Djsasso (talk) 17:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Going by what happend at the NHL team rosters, concerning HHOF members? I'd be concerned about creating a Notable criteria for the Debute & Last game sections of these season articles. PS- May I remove Trevor Linden? GoodDay (talk) 17:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah remove him, and the thing about HHOF members is exactly the point. Before we just said notable players and so people were adding everybody and anybody to the list of notable players on the team pages but once we said they had to be HHOF members then those edit wars ended. By having a set criteria, ie have to have won an award, then you avoid all the POV additions of players. As I have gone back over some of these lists and there are complete nobodies on some of the years. I might have to go through the seasons and prune a bit. -Djsasso (talk) 17:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, the criteria seems reasonable. GoodDay (talk) 17:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Wouldn't ya know it? Just one day after I omitted Trevor Linden from the 'last game' list? he decides to retire. I've re-added him to the list. GoodDay (talk) 13:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It's been known for months ... that's why I don't understand why people were arguing. There were even references provided.  The removal was pretty exasperating, and I almost did an undo. Bwilkins (talk) 14:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:Crystal. It wasn't officially announced until today. -Djsasso (talk) 14:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The difference between Crystal Ball and Linden is that Linden said "this is my last season". Ergo based on his words, it was acceptable, even though an OFFICIAL announcement didn't come until today.  However, it's not worth arguing .. the fact that it was official the day after it was removed is victory enough :) Bwilkins (talk) 17:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's not that big a deal. But as you have seen this past year with Selanne and Neidermayer. Even through they said it was their last season it ended up not being. And in their case as there was in this case there was no official announcement. In the past we have generally not listed players as retired until they filed their retirement papers with the league. -Djsasso (talk) 17:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Did Tim Taylor ever officially anounce his retirement? I remember disputing this back in February (when, IMHO he was prematurely removed from the Lightning's article). GoodDay (talk) 18:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ..and of course, if you deleted the original references, and have now re-added Linden, you will (of course) add new references, won't you? :) Bwilkins (talk) 18:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to add them (I only know how to delete them). Be my guest. GoodDay (talk) 21:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Country Flags
Ok, there seems to be some ... "disagreement" on the use of country flags. It was first removed by someone else on June 9. At first, I disagreed, and almost reverted. Then I thought about it for awhile, and agreed that country of origin is unimportant on this article - if you really want to know his citizenship, click to his page ... or even his team's page. It was re-added yesterday, and I re-removed, and it was re-re-added today. Can we get some discussion on the yea or nay on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwilkins (talk • contribs) 15:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We commonly add flags to the infoboxes and pages such as this for players when they win awards or if its a list of scoring leaders etc etc. There is a discussion about it somewhere but I can't remember the location off the top of my head. It tends to get debated fairly frequently. -Djsasso (talk) 15:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As per WP:FLAG The flag icons should be used for sporting nationality, not nationality.Asher196 (talk) 13:30, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps Wiki:Ignore can be applied here. GoodDay (talk) 17:30, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It could be, but why why use the flag icons in the first place? What purpose do they serve in the context of the NHL Season?  Why would a reader of this article need to know the place of birth of a particular player?  Since the names are all wikilinked, the information is readily available anyway.Asher196 (talk) 17:39, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose. GoodDay (talk) 17:41, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That was my original argument ... flags are on the bio page. However, TSN, ESPN and whoever STILL will say (at any course during the season) that "Russian superstar so-and-so"... I kinda started to agree with the keeping the flags there Bwilkins (talk) 18:26, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Internal Links
IIRC, the only time we should be linking to other Wikipedia articles is the FIRST time that the team/player is mentioned (except for special circumstances such as infoboxes, etc). Should we not be following this a little better? Bwilkins (talk) 14:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. GoodDay (talk) 13:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Last games [pending]
Jagr & Emery (for example) should be listed under last game section. As there's is equally no guarentee they'll return to the NHL. GoodDay (talk) 22:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Besides, we could easily remove them, if/when they return to the NHL. GoodDay (talk) 22:21, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed ... they should be there. Someone removed another one a couple of weeks ago too.  BMW  (drive)  22:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe we should have columns. "Player .. Last Team ... Reason"  BMW  (drive)  22:26, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep; Jagr, Emery & Tarnstrom should be re-added. As for the columns? I'm not certain of how to create those. GoodDay (talk) 22:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * done BMW  (drive)  23:09, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing, columns will have to be added to the First Gamers aswell. This column style would have to also be added to all the NHL season articles (eventually). GoodDay (talk) 23:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't really agree, until a player officially places retirement papers with the league then we can't assume its their last game. It's no different than a number of players we held off the list for a year or two because they didn't officially retire.-Djsasso (talk) 00:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Heck, I would argue even if it were, of those three players the only one notable enough to be on the list is Jagr. -Djsasso (talk) 00:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I don't see why Tärnström should be mentioned. Emery could still return to the NHL. --Krm500 (talk) 01:02, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

And Kapanen hasn't retired, give another reason please. --Krm500 (talk) 01:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Kapanen hasn't retired? Did you READ the linked article?  That's why I have insisted on references.  I also think we need to re-add Emery and Jagr.  The whole idea behind having a "reason" column was so that we could TRACK those that perhaps COULD come back.  BMW  (drive)  11:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I did read the poorly formulated press release from the Flyers. He is not retired. --Krm500 (talk) 12:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Emery had one big season, I don't think he qualifies as a player of note. In fact at one point I thought it was decided that only players who won or were nominated for awards would be listed in the debuts or last games. But maybe I am mistaken. -Djsasso (talk) 16:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I remember that being the case for "debuts" only. One could hardly say that a goaltender who played in the Cup Finals (and has been in the press sooooo much) is not considered "notable"  BMW  (drive)  16:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Personally I think the whole section should be wiped out. Because per WP:N every person with a page is notable and trying to choose people who are more notable than the others is inherently POV. Only way I could see to somehow avoid that would be to only list people who have been added to the hall of fame. Yes that means waiting a couple years after they retire but its the only way I see to avoid the POV. -Djsasso (talk) 16:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we need to keep it, although perhaps in a modified way. A player who comes up and down from the minors is generally NOT considered to be "last game in the NHL".  Any player either has to officially retire from the NHL, OR who officially signs a contract outside of the NHL system (yes, they may return .. then again, so might a retired player!) can be listed.  What are there usually, 16 retirements a season?  Nothing wrong with noting them.  Maybe we need a column with "what makes them notable", or "how many seasons"?  BMW  (drive)  16:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

After giving it some thought, Djsasso has a point about including only HHOFers. Kinda like when we decided to discontinue the Notable players section in the NHL team articles (over a year ago). GoodDay (talk) 18:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Was it really necessary to remove the table format? I think it improved the look of the section significantly  BMW  (drive)  17:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Setting some Parameters
Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/NHL season pages format.

Standings
Does anyone know how to edit the standings? As of today (June 20, 2013), the New York Islanders are listed as being in the Southeast Division, they were actually in the Atlantic division that year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinity Project (talk • contribs) 02:36, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The standings are in a protected, referenced template, if I remember correctly. Do you have a source to confirm what you're saying? (✉→ BWilkins ←✎) 09:03, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I do: http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20072008&type=CON (where the Islanders are clearly listed as being in the "ATL" division, different from Atlanta and Tampa Bay) and http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20072008&type=DIV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinity Project (talk • contribs) 17:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

So does anyone know how to fix the problem? As of June 22, 2013, the error is still there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinity Project (talk • contribs) 16:38, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no giant rush ... this is a volunteer project, and I personally was not around a lot yesterday (✉→ BWilkins ←✎) 10:39, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Should be fixed now (✉→ BWilkins ←✎) 10:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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WNLO (TV)

WNLO (channel 23) is a television station in Buffalo, New York, United States, serving as the local outlet for The CW. It is owned and operated by network majority owner Nexstar Media Group alongside CBS affiliate WIVB-TV (channel 4). WNLO and WIVB-TV share studios on Elmwood Avenue in North Buffalo; through a channel sharing agreement, the two stations transmit using WNLO's spectrum from a tower in Colden, New York.

As a PBS member station (1987–2001)
The station signed on the air as WNEQ-TV on May 13, 1987, and was the second public television outlet serving the Buffalo market. It was operated under an educational license and was sister station to WNED-TV (channel 17), which had a commercial license but operated as an educational station (WNED-TV operated on channel 17 because of the donation of equipment to it by WBUF-TV, a defunct commercial station). The analog UHF channel 23 allocation was originally intended to be part of a plan for a statewide public television network (the concept of which would much later become ThinkBright) that would have seen a signature tower housing transmitters for channel 23 as well as WBFO (88.7 FM) on the University at Buffalo's Amherst Campus. Studios were to be located there as well during development of the futuristic "New U.B." complex in the 1970s. Budget constraints curbed the plan and years of tension between the university and WNED-TV board members ended allowing the station to go forward with its plans for the UHF channel.

WNEQ-TV's broadcast day began daily at 4 p.m. and it usually aired between six and seven hours of programming per day. In 1992, many cable providers in Hamilton and Niagara began carrying WNEQ-TV, displacing long-standing WQLN from Erie, Pennsylvania, in the process. In fall 1998, most of the cable providers in those regions started to remove WNEQ as they were struggling with limited channel capacity and because it had a limited daily program schedule. One year later, Rogers Cable began carrying WNEQ on its digital tier for customers in the Greater Toronto Area.

The Buffalo market was unable to support two public stations, and both WNEQ-TV and WNED-TV struggled financially. As a result, the educational foundation put WNEQ-TV up for sale. LIN TV (owner of CBS affiliate WIVB-TV) wanted to buy WNEQ-TV and run it as a commercial station. However, that was problematic because WNEQ-TV was operating under an educational license. One solution was for LIN to instead purchase channel 17 (which already had a commercial license), resulting in channel 23 becoming the area's primary PBS station (and presumably inheriting the WNED-TV call sign). This solution was also rejected, since UHF channel 17 had long been established as a PBS station and a move to channel 23 might cause confusion among viewers, potentially reducing the amount of donations that the viewer-supported station would receive.

In 2000, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) agreed to reassign channel 23 to a commercial license and assigned channel 17 an educational license. Consequently, the Buffalo market retained an educational-licensed station and LIN TV was permitted to purchase the converted-to-commercial WNEQ-TV.

As a commercial station (2001–present)
In March 2001, LIN closed on its purchase of WNEQ-TV and converted it to a general entertainment independent station under the call sign WNLO, though it would not merge its transmitter facilities with new sister station WIVB until 2019, instead continuing to transmit from the WNED tower. In 2003, WNLO secured the UPN affiliation for the Buffalo market when the network's affiliation agreement with the weaker-rated WNGS (channel 67, now WBBZ-TV) expired. On cable in Toronto, WNLO was replaced with WTVS from Detroit in January 2001 when it relaunched as a commercial station. In 2005, Rogers submitted a successful request to the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) to allow carriage of WNLO in Ontario. The station would not compete on advertising revenue from the Toronto area (as Rogers suggested with another Buffalo station it carried, WNYO-TV) and the signal was also available over-the-air in a good portion of the Golden Horseshoe of Southern Ontario.

On January 24, 2006, CBS Corporation and Time Warner announced the shutdown of both UPN and The WB effective that fall. In place of these two networks, a new "fifth" network—"The CW" (its name representing the first initials of parent companies C BS and W arner), jointly owned by both companies, would launch, with a lineup primarily featuring the most popular programs from both networks. On February 22, News Corporation announced it would start up another new network called MyNetworkTV. This new service, which would be a sister network to Fox, would be operated by Fox Television Stations and its syndication division Twentieth Television. MyNetworkTV was created in order to give UPN and WB stations that were not mentioned as becoming CW affiliates another option besides becoming an independent station, as well as to compete against The CW. In April, WNLO removed the UPN branding from its station logo following the lead of News Corporation's UPN affiliates. MyNetworkTV launched on September 5 on Sinclair Broadcast Group-owned WNYO-TV (channel 49), while WNLO became part of The CW upon its launch on September 18, 2006.

On November 2 of that year, WNLO began broadcasting CW network programming in high definition on its digital signal. Until this point, it was rebroadcasting WIVB-TV's high definition feed, because UPN had little to no HD programming to broadcast. On May 18, 2007, LIN TV announced the company was exploring strategic alternatives that could have resulted in its sale. In early July 2007, WNLO launched its own website; previously, the station's web page was merely a separate section within WIVB-TV's website.

On March 10, 2010, the station acquired a universal cable channel slot on Time Warner Cable systems throughout Western New York after years of being on different channels throughout the provider's service area. The station moved to channel 11 because Time Warner Cable ended a reserve for former channel 11 slot holder WNGS, which had been off the air for several months. Most cable providers had previously placed WNLO on channel 9, which had to be cleared for the move of TWC's in-house cable-only news channel YNN Buffalo from cable channel 14, which had not been available to all of its subscribers.

On March 21, 2014, it was announced that Media General would acquire LIN. The merger was completed on December 19, bringing WIVB-TV and WNLO under common ownership with ABC affiliate WTEN and under the same management as Fox affiliate WXXA-TV, both in Albany.

On January 27, 2016, Media General announced that it had entered into a definite agreement to be acquired by Nexstar Broadcasting Group. The combined company is now known as "Nexstar Media Group," and owns 171 stations (including WIVB and WNLO).

Programming
WNLO can be considered an alternate CBS affiliate as it simulcasts the CBS Overnight News and the CBS Morning News from WIVB-TV. The station is also responsible for airing CBS programs when WIVB-TV is unable or otherwise chooses not to air a program due to local or syndicated programming commitments.

In 2015, WNLO acquired Raycom Sports's ACC Network package of college football and men's basketball broadcasts from the Atlantic Coast Conference. The ACC package had previously aired on WBBZ-TV for the previous two seasons.

In April 2019, WNLO announced the acquisition of a package of Buffalo Bisons Minor League Baseball games, mostly on Saturday nights, once approximately every two weeks. WNLO also holds broadcast rights to the Buffalo Bandits lacrosse team, whose games are among the station's most-watched programs.

Newscasts
After WIVB-TV took over operations of WNLO in March 2001, the CBS affiliate began producing a nightly half-hour prime time newscast on channel 23. Known as The 10 O'Clock News, it competed with another newscast in the timeslot on Pax affiliate WPXJ-TV that was produced by NBC affiliate WGRZ (channel 2; it was eventually dropped in 2003). On April 20, 2006, WGRZ started producing a half-hour prime time newscast for The WB (now MyNetworkTV) affiliate WNYO-TV (WNYO-TV briefly had its own News Central-based newscast from 2005 to 2006). In order to gain more viewers than WNLO, the second WGRZ 10 p.m. newscast originally featured ten minutes of news and weather, with the rest of the half-hour dedicated to sports. However, due to low ratings, the sports segment was reduced to a traditional segment seen after weather.

WNLO consistently led WNYO-TV in the ratings, for a number of reasons. By May 2011, it was the highest-rated late newscast (10 or 11 p.m.) in all of Western New York among viewers 18 to 54, beating all of the market's 11 p.m. newscasts; among total viewers, it trails WGRZ and sister station WIVB-TV. On February 2, 2009, WNLO began airing a two-hour extension of WIVB-TV's weekday morning newscast. Known as ''Wake Up! on CW 23, it aired from 7 to 9 a.m., and competed against WIVB-TV's broadcast of The Early Show''. The station aired its own locally produced morning talk show, ''Winging It! Buffalo Style during the 8 a.m. hour, which upon its debut, reduced WNLO's Wake Up!'' newscast to one hour. The station also rebroadcasts WIVB-TV's hour-long weekend morning newscast, Weekend Wake Up!, from noon to 1 p.m., and simulcasts that station's hour-long 6 p.m. newscast on Sunday nights.

On February 1, 2012, WIVB-TV became the third and last television station in the Buffalo market to begin broadcasting its local newscasts in high definition; the newscasts that WIVB-TV produces for WNLO were included in the upgrade. On January 6, 2014, WIVB-TV expanded the 10 p.m. weeknight newscast on WNLO to one hour (the move was originally planned to maintain a lead-in for The Arsenio Hall Show, which the station had planned to air at 10:30 but could not get the syndicator to distribute until 11 p.m.; that show would be canceled in May, while the newscast remains at its full length). The newscast remains a half-hour on weekends. In either 2013 or 2014, the WNLO portion of Wake-Up! expanded to 2 hours, once again from 7 to 9 a.m., moving ''Winging It! Buffalo Style to 9 a.m.; Winging It!'' was canceled effective January 2015.

In December 2017, WIVB announced that it would begin producing a half-hour early evening newscast at 6:30 p.m. for WNLO which premiered on January 15, 2018, serving as a local alternative to the national network evening news programs seen on WGRZ, WKBW-TV and WIVB.

Subchannels
{{legend|#DFEBF6|Broadcast on behalf of another station}} In June 2013, WNLO announced it would begin carrying Bounce TV, an African American-oriented television network, on its second digital subchannel; the network began to be carried on channel 23.2 on July 1.

Analog-to-digital conversion
WNLO discontinued regular programming on its analog signal, over UHF channel 23, at 9 a.m. on June 12, 2009, the official date on which full-power television stations in the United States transitioned from analog to digital broadcasts under federal mandate. The station's digital signal remained on its pre-transition UHF channel 32, using virtual channel 23. The UHF channel 23 allotment formerly allocated to WNLO for its analog signal is now used for the digital signal of Ion Television affiliate WPXJ-TV (virtual channel 51).

WIVB began to share WNLO's physical channel in summer 2018 after Nexstar sold WIVB's existing spectrum in the FCC transition auction, moving to the WNLO/WNED tower temporarily. In the summer of 2019, WNLO/WIVB shifted to its post-transition channel, and began to transmit from the WIVB-TV Tower in Colden, and merged the two stations' operations fully together, including physical transmitter.

Carriage disputes
In October 2008, LIN TV broke off all retransmission deals with Time Warner Cable. LIN TV was demanding a fee of 25 cents per month per subscriber to carry each of its stations as it is entitled to under federal must carry regulations. TWC had initially refused to accept these fees and, on October 2, WNLO and sister station WIVB-TV were removed from the provider's lineups. LIN TV and TWC reached an agreement for the two stations and each were returned to the cable provider's lineup on October 30. As part of the agreement, WNLO's high definition signal began to be carried on TWC's digital tier for the first time. Another retransmission consent dispute threatened to take WIVB-TV and WNLO off Dish Network lineups in March 2011.

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Seidenberg

Seidenberg may refer to:

People

 * Abraham Seidenberg, an American mathematician
 * Avri Elad (Avraham Seidenberg), Israeli secret agent involved in the Lavon Affair
 * Dennis Seidenberg, German athlete
 * Ivan Seidenberg, Verizon CEO
 * Mark Seidenberg, American psycholinguist
 * Martin Seidenberg (born 1973), German business executive

Other

 * Seidenberg School of Computer Science and Information Systems at Pace University
 * Zawidów (formerly Seidenberg), in Lower Silesian Voivodeship, south-western Poland

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ReserVec

ReserVec was a computerized reservation system developed by Ferranti Canada for Trans-Canada Air Lines (TCA, today's Air Canada) in the late 1950s. It appears to be the first such system ever developed, predating the more famous SABRE system in the United States by about two years. Although Ferranti had high hopes that the system would be used by other airlines, no further sales were forthcoming and development of the system ended. Major portions of the transistor-based circuit design were put to good use in the Ferranti-Packard 6000 computer, which would later go on to see major sales in Europe as the ICT 1904.

Background
In the early 1950s the airline industry was undergoing explosive growth. A serious limiting factor was the time taken to make a single booking, which could take upwards of 90 minutes in total. TCA found their bookings typically involved between three and seven calls to the centralized booking centre in Toronto, where telephone operators would scan flight status displayed on a huge board showing all scheduled flights one month into the future. Bookings past that time could not be made, nor could an agent reliably know anything other than if the flight was full or not – to book two seats was much more complex, requiring the operator to find the "flight card" for that flight in a filing cabinet.

In 1946 American Airlines decided to tackle this problem through automation, introducing the Reservisor, a simple electromechanical computer based on telephone switching systems. Newer versions of the Reservisor included magnetic drum systems for storing flight information further into the future. The ultimate version of the system, the Magnetronic Reservisor, was installed in 1956 and could store data for 2,000 flights a day up to one month into the future. Reservisors were later sold to a number of airlines, as well as Sheraton for hotel bookings, and Goodyear for inventory control.

TCA experiments
TCA was aware of the Reservisor, but was unimpressed by its limited capabilities in terms of information it could store, and even more by the failure rate, which was essentially "constant". Nor did the Reservisor really change the way the reservations system worked; ticket agents still had to call central booking and talk (typically through an intermediary) to a Reservisor operator to answer queries.

TCA asked one of their communications engineers, Lyman Richardson, to study the booking problem, and he quickly came to the opinion that a computerized solution was the only one worth studying. TCA then entered into an agreement to build a prototype system on the University of Toronto's FERUT computer, a surplus Manchester Mark 1 computer they had received in 1952 when the UK's nuclear weapons laboratories had to abandon it after budget cuts.

The FERUT-based system was demonstrated in 1953 and was a qualified success; while the programmed logic and data storage/retrieval worked well, input/output was a serious bottleneck that seemed to make the system no better than the mechanical Reservisor. Furthermore, the Ferut was vacuum tube based, and thus no more reliable than the Reservisor, TCA's major concern prior to the experiment.

Richardson was convinced that the basic concept was sound, and formed a team of him and several engineers from the university's Computation Center, operating under the aegis of Adalia Ltd., a consulting firm set up by Robert Watson-Watt of radar fame when he moved to Montreal at the end of World War II. They became involved with the newly-forming electronics group at Ferranti Canada, who felt they had a solution to the input/output and reliability problems.

Ferranti proposed a "transactor" (terminal) that used a custom punched card system. Booking agents at the ticketing offices marked the cards with a pencil to select various checkboxes, then inserted it into the transactor which read the marks and punched those codes onto the edge of the card. Cards would then be collected from any number of operators and fed into a normal card reader, which would read them over telephone lines at "high speed" directly into the central booking computer.

The computer would be built using transistor-based logic, thereby eliminating downtime due to tube burnout. Such a system had first been proposed in order to improve the reliability of the DATAR system Ferranti had built for the Canadian Navy, and they were convinced of its practicality.

TCA was interested and provided $75,000 for the construction of six prototype transactors. In 1957 these were attached to FERUT over telephone lines and the experimental booking program run again. The demonstration was a complete success; users could quickly feed in requests and Ferut was able to book, change, query and cancel flights at speeds that made the Reservisor look terribly slow.

Deployment
There was some further development and planning, but in 1959 TCA placed a $2 million ($12 million in year-2000 dollars) contract for a deployment system consisting of 350 transactors and all the communications equipment to support them in the field. Ferranti also won the contract for the computer system, although IBM had also been considered. The new machine was based on a 25-bit word, using one bit for parity checking and 24 bits for data, and was equipped with 4,096 words of core memory, later expanded to 8,192 words. Storage consisted of five magnetic drums (one was a spare) with 32,768 25-bit words each, and six tape units. Simple load balancing software routed requests across two CPUs, known as Castor and Pollux, the computer as a whole thus becoming Gemini. An internal TCA contest in late 1960 to name the system as a whole resulted in ReserVec for Reservations Electronically Controlled.

Installation of the transactors started in April 1961, followed by the computer in the Toronto booking office in August. The system was brought up for testing on October 18, 1961, connecting additional ticketing offices as the transactors were installed over the next year. By August 1962 the system was complete, and the switch-over from the manual systems to ReserVec was completed on January 24, 1963. Use of ReserVec reduced the head count at the booking office from 230 to 90, and allowed for the sale of thousands of telephone lines formerly needed to reach the human operators. Total turnaround from request to response could be as short as a second, although under load it might drop to two seconds at the worst. The system as a whole could process 10 transactions per second.

It is interesting to compare the system with SABRE, being deployed at about the same time by American Airlines. SABRE was first started as an experimental effort in 1953, and a formal development contract signed in 1957. The system was first turned on in 1960, and took over booking functions in December 1964. So while the two projects started at the same time, ReserVec was completed almost two years earlier. While the ReserVec cost $4 million, SABRE was ten times that. Equally interesting is that while the SABRE CPU was about ten times faster, ReserVec handled 80-100,000 transactions a day with a maximum two second delay, while SABRE handled only 26,000 with delays of up to three seconds.

Unlike SABRE, however, ReserVec did not store passenger information, which had to be processed manually. In order to address this need, TCA added a second system known as Pioneer, which could link ReserVec's three letter passenger codes with the full passenger records held on a Burroughs D-82 computer (originally designed for US military use). Pioneers were installed only in the Toronto and Montreal offices, smaller offices continued using paper records for user info. ReserVec ran all of TCA's reservations for nine years, with an average downtime of only 120 seconds a year. Originally designed for only 60,000 transactions a day, it was already processing 80 to 100,000 when it was first turned on, and over 600,000 by 1970. Retroactively named ReserVec I, the system was finally replaced at the end of 1970 by a new Univac-based system known as ReserVec II, which featured small computer terminals replacing the punched card systems.

Disappointing sales
Ferranti, now as Ferranti-Packard, tried to sell the machine as-is to other airlines. The United States market seemed to be entirely wrapped up by IBM and Univac, but there was no comparable system in Europe, where a number of airlines were looking at the U.S. developments with interest. Gemini could be sold directly into Europe by Ferranti's existing UK-based sales force. Instead, the UK headquarters decided to build their own solution from scratch. In the end, the UK system would never be delivered; it was still being developed when Ferranti decided to sell off their entire computer division after years of losses.

Nevertheless, the work did not go to waste. The engineering team convinced Canadian management to support the development of a business computer aimed at the low-end of the mainframe market. They expanded the ReserVec system with additional hardware to directly support multitasking and various changes to make the system highly modular, making it more attractive to a wider variety of users. Sales of the new Ferranti-Packard 6000 were just starting when the UK headquarters used the design to sweeten the deal when selling off their UK computer divisions, handing the design to the ICT who took over production. This was much to the chagrin of the Canadian staff, most of whom quit. The FP-6000 became the ICT 1904, one of a line of similar machines which sold over 3,000 during the 1960s and 1970s.

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Final table, Game 2
Game 2 was played in Denman Arena, but I'm unsure how to use the table to insert this note (other than how it is now, which is repeated four times). If anyone has any guidance, please contribute. Fdssdf (talk) 17:19, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Providence, Rhode Island streets

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The result of the debate was delete. Nufy8 22:34, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

List of Providence, Rhode Island streets
Wikipedia is not a directory. These are a list of random list of streets and are not notable. They are taking up valuable space on Wiki. UniReb 18:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.Roodog2k 18:29, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not directory DV8 2XL 18:43, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, a bit much. Gateman1997 20:04, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above, except that I do not agree with the "taking up valuable space" comment and think the nomination would be stronger without it. Dpbsmith (talk) 20:12, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Providence is simply too small and NN to warrant this much detail. --Quasipalm 20:24, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. The issue isn't, I don't think, the size of Providence. A simple list of street names such as this would be inappropriate for any place.  Providence, as a U.S. state capital, is pretty notable. —Cleared as filed. 21:53, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete - if you want a list of street names in any particular locale surely there are more appropriate places to look than Wikipedia. Perhaps I should do a list of streets in Tipton ..... (ok, so you've never heard of Tipton ....) Rhyddfrydol 20:41, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

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Stefan Branković

Stefan Branković (Стефан Бранковић; c. 1417 – 9 October 1476), also known in historiography as Stefan the Blind (Стефан Слепи), was briefly the despot (ruler) of the Serbian Despotate between 1458 and 1459. He was the last ruling member of the Branković dynasty.

Family
Stefan and his relations are named in Dell'Imperadori Constantinopolitani (also known as the "Massarelli manuscript" after the work was found in papers of Angelo Massarelli, the general secretary of the Council of Trent ), a manuscript held in the Vatican Library. This manuscript names him a son of Đurađ Branković and Eirene Kantakouzene. D. M. Nicol (1994) questioned his maternity, suggesting Đurađ had a prior marriage to a daughter of John IV of Trebizond. However his theory presented no sources and failed to take into account that John IV was born between 1395 and 1417. He would be unlikely to be a grandparent by the 1410s.

On 11 September 1429, Đurađ made a donation to Esphigmenou Monastery at Mount Athos. The charter for the document names his wife Irene and five children. The Masarelli manuscript also names the same five children of Đurađ and Eirene. Other genealogies mention a sixth child, Todor Branković. He could be a child who died young and thus not listed with his siblings. The oldest sibling listed in the Massarelli document was Grgur Branković. The 1429 document mentions him with the title of Despot. Grgur was appointed governor of territories of southern Serbia associated to the House of Branković. He was reportedly appointed by Murad II of the Ottoman Empire in 1439. In April 1441, Grgur was accused of plotting against Murad and his governorship terminated. He was imprisoned in Amasya and blinded on 8 May 1441. Grgur and his brothers co-signed a charter by which Đurađ confirmed the privileges to the Republic of Ragusa Grgur retired to a monastery under the monastic name "German". According to Fine, Grgur resurfaced in 1458, claiming the succession of the vacant throne of Serbia for himself or his son. The Massarelli manuscript mentioned Grgur as unwed. Later genealogies name his wife as "Jelisaveta". Vuk Grgurević, a son of Grgur, was later a titular Serbian despot (1471–1485). He was possibly an illegitimate.

The Massarelli next names an older sister of Stefan, Mara Branković. She was one of the wives of Murad II. Stefan himself is listed third. His younger sister is listed as Cantacuzina, the Latinized version of their mother's last name. Later genealogies give her name as Katarina. She married Ulrich II of Celje. The last and youngest sibling listed was Lazar Branković, successor to their father.

Reign

According to Nicol, Stefan had become a citizen of the Republic of Venice. He was blinded alongside his brother Grgur in 1441. Both blind brothers seem to have been omitted from considerations as possible heirs to their father. They could only claim the throne in 1458, since the death of Lazar left them the only male representatives of the Branković.

According to Fine, Stefan secured the throne by co-operating with his sister-in-law Helena Palaiologina, widow of Lazar. She was a daughter of Thomas Palaiologos, Despot of the Morea, and Catherine Zaccaria of the Principality of Achaea. Helena however arranged the marriage of one of her daughters to Stjepan Tomašević, prince of Bosnia. She thus managed to secure the throne for her new son-in-law. Matthias Corvinus of Hungary and Stjepan Tomaš Kotromanić, King of Bosnia and father of Tomašević, dethroned Stefan on April 8, 1459. They enthroned Stjepan Tomašević as his replacement. At the end of 1459 Stefan decided to travel to Albania, where he had relatives. In mid-1460 he travelled to Albania where he married Angelina Arianit Komneni in November 1460. Angelina was the sister of Donika, who married Skanderbeg. Skanderbeg gave to Stefan Branković an unknown estate as apanage. At the beginning of 1461 Stefan Branković went to Italy with Skanderbeg's written recommendation.

He gained (c. 1462) the Castle Belgrado, in the region of Friuli (northern Italy), where he lived with his family, until his death in 1476.

Marriage and children

In 1461, Stefan married Angjelina Arianit Komneni, daughter of Albanian Prince of Arianiti Gjergj Arianit Komneni, and they had several children:

 * Đorđe (d. 18 January 1516). Titular Despot of Serbia, and noble in the Kingdom of Hungary. Married Isabella del Balzo, daughter of Agilberto, Duke of Nardò. Later retired as a monk under the monastic name "Maxim". Resurfaced as Metropolitan of Ungro-Wallachia from 1508 to 1521. He also held the title of Archbishop of Belgrade.
 * Jovan (d. 10 December 1502). Titular Despot of Serbia, and noble in the Kingdom of Hungary. Married Jelena Jakšić. She is mentioned as "Helena, Serbiæ despotissa" in a charted dated to 1502.
 * Irene. Mentioned third in the Massarelli manuscript. Considered to have died young.
 * Marija (died 27 August 1495). Mentioned fourth and last in the Massarelli manuscript. Married Boniface III, Marquess of Montferrat (1424–1494, reign 1483–1494).

Legacy
He is venerated as a Saint Stefan the Blind by the Serbian Orthodox Church.

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View Ridge, Seattle

View Ridge is a neighborhood in north Seattle, Washington. As with all Seattle neighborhoods, its boundaries are not fixed, but can be thought of as NE 65th Street in the south, 40th and 45th Avenues NE in the west, the Sand Point Country Club in the north, and Sand Point Way NE in the east. Many homes offer views of Lake Washington, Mount Rainier, and the Cascade Range. View Ridge Elementary School is located within the neighborhood, and the neighborhood also offers a large park and playfield (View Ridge Park) across the street from the elementary school. The View Ridge Swim and Tennis Club is located on the eastern edge of View Ridge, and the Sand Point Country Club is located on the northern edge.

Demographics
View Ridge is home to a considerable Jewish community, with a Hasidic synagogue, Congregation Shaarei Tefillah Lubavitch, located at the corner of NE 65th St. and 43rd Ave. NE. There are several churches, too: Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, and Catholic. In addition to the public elementary and middle school, there are many private schools nearby.

Geography

View Ridge is roughly bounded by NE 65th Street in the south, beyond which is Hawthorne Hills; 40th and 45th Avenues NE in the west, beyond which is Wedgwood; the Sand Point Country Club in the north, beyond which is Matthews Beach; and Sand Point Way NE in the east, beyond which is Sand Point. View Ridge is located on a hill overlooking Magnuson Park as well as the former Naval Air Station Seattle. The neighborhood encompasses an area of approximately 1 mi2. The neighborhood is a high point between the adjacent neighborhoods of Wedgwood and Hawthorne Hills.

History
View Ridge was first settled in 1936 by Ralph Jones and Al Balch; it is one of the newest neighborhoods in Seattle. Upon buying 10 acre of forest land in what is now the neighborhood, Jones and Balch cleared trees to create views of Lake Washington and the Cascades. They then sold lots on their land for $450 to $950 and created publicity for their property sales. Their initial success in selling land in View Ridge enabled them to expand their efforts, and they bought more land to reach the current boundaries of View Ridge. The neighborhood was annexed into Seattle in 1942. View Ridge Elementary School was founded with portable classrooms in 1944 and was built in 1948. In the late 1980s, View Ridge became the site of a series of arsons. The first fires occurred in March 1987, when four houses were set on fire in one night, resulting in the death of an elderly couple. In 1989, several more cases of arson were committed in the neighborhood; the arsonists responsible ultimately set forty fires.

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Negübei

Negübei was Khan of the Chagatai Khanate (1271–1272?). He was the son of Sarban.

In 1271 Negübei was appointed by Kaidu as head of the Chagatai Khanate. A year after his enthronement, however, he rebelled against his master, possibly in conjunction with the revolts launched by the sons of Alghu and Baraq. Kaidu responded by sending an army against Negübei, and the latter was forced to flee to the east. Soon afterward, he was killed and subsequently replaced by Buqa Temür.

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:26, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Kunhali Marakkar I → Kunhali Marakkar — Request change coz article has info about all four Kunjalis, not just first.NMKuttiady (talk) 13:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
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A query
Was the family of Kunhali Marikkars engaged in the defense of Calicut, or were they trying to protect the Arab monopoly over the pepper trade? For, once the ocean route to Europe opens, the Arab monopoly through the gulf region that extended to the Mediterranean Sea would vanish. Arabs were quite entrenched in Calicut with some village given to them to have wives and families on the Malabar coast. The profit in pepper trade has been mentioned as 3000 percent. --Ved from Victoria Institutions (talk) 07:14, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Grammar and other corrections
The sequence of events was jumping around in past and present tense, so I have corrected it.

Sword of Kunjali
This may have been a sword captured by Kunjali, but has it been proven that he had used it in combat? It looks very European in structure used for stabbing and the Mappila swords were broad, used for hacking. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.66.180.13 (talk) 20:52, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move, therefore, moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 12:24, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Kunhali Marakkar → Kunjali Marakkar – Kunjali is the most common name. Google suggests "Did you mean: kunjali marakkar" if searched kunhali marakkar. The 1967 film is Kunjali Marakkar, name of Indian navy's air base INS Kunjali, Kunjali Marakkar School of Marine Engineering, Kunjali Marakkar Museum, Kunjali Marakkar Memorial Museum. Kunhali is also correct. Kunjali is more widely used though. --Let There Be Sunshine 09:55, 27 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 10:10, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

 * Indifferent. So long as one redirects to the other and readers can easily find what they're looking for, what does it matter? Narky Blert (talk) 07:55, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Then there's no problem in moving as well. Per WP:COMMONNAME, it should be Kunjali Marakkar, whereas there's no reason to keep it Kunhali Marakkar. Shouldn't we give it the proper name ? Why do we follow the uncommon.--Let There Be Sunshine 06:43, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support. Agree with nominator. Kunjali Marakkar is the most spelt. 137.97.130.146 (talk) 16:24, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

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Ashteroth Karnaim

Ashteroth Karnaim (עַשְׁתְּרֹת קַרְנַיִם), also rendered as Ashtaroth Karnaim, was a city in Bashan east of the Jordan River.

A distinction is to be made between two neighbouring cities: Ashtaroth, and northeast of it Karnaim, the latter annexing the name of the former after Ashtaroth's decline and becoming known as Ashteroth Karnaim.

Ashteroth Karnaim was mentioned under this name in the Book of Genesis, and in the Book of Joshua where it is rendered simply as "Ashtaroth". Karnaim is also mentioned by the prophet Amos (Book of Amos 6:13) where those in Israel are boasting to have taken it by their own strength.

Karnaim/Ashteroth Karnaim is considered to be the same with Hellenistic era Karnein of 2 Maccabees 12:21, rendered in the King James Version as Carnion, and possibly as "Carnaim" in 1 Maccabees.

Eusebius (c. 260/265–340) writes of Karneia/Karnaia, a large village in "Arabia", where a house of Job was identified by tradition.

Ashteroth in the Assyrian relief
Tell Ashtara is mentioned in the Assyrian relief in 730/727 BCE, which is in the British Museum. It is a town where Levites lived. It is mentioned twice in the cuneiform Amarna letters of 1350 BC. The relief depicts the Assyrians removing the people from Ashteroth in 730–727 BC. The relief was excavated at Nimrud by Austen Henry Layard in 1851. The name Ashteroth is inscribed in cuneiform on the top of the relief. The king in the lower register is Tiglath-pileser III. This is the first exile of the people out of Israel into Assyria. This event is mentioned in the Bible in 2 Kings 15:29: "In the days of King Pekah of Israel, King Tiglath-pileser of Assyria came and captured Ijon, Abel-beth-maacah, Janoah, Kedesh, Hazor—Gilead, Galilee, the entire region of Naphtali; and he deported the inhabitants to Assyria."

The floppy turbans and pointed shoes and the style of the cloaks are typical for Israel at that period; the same clothes are shown on the Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III. The Black Obelisk is dated to about 825 BCE. It was also excavated at Nimrud by Sir Austen Henry Layard in 1848. It shows Jehu, King of Northern Israel, or his representative offering tribute to Shalmaneser III on the second register down.

Etymology
The name translates literally to "Astarte of the Two Horns". Astarte was a goddess of civilisation and fertility in Canaanite religion.

Identification
The identification of the two sites is not straightforward, but there is some degree of consensus.

Ashtaroth

 * Tell Ashtara, north of the River Yarmouk, is a site considered to be identical with Ashtaroth, a city mentioned in several Egyptian sources: the Execration texts, Amarna letters (mid-14th century BCE) and the campaign list of Ramesses III (r. 1186 to 1155 BCE). The city appears in Amarna letters EA 256 and EA 197 as Aš-tar-te/ti. In the Hebrew Bible it is mentioned as the capital of King Og of Bashan ( etc.) and as part of the territory of Manasseh.

Karnaim/Ashteroth Karnaim
All sites identified by different scholars at different times as Karnaim/Ashteroth Karnaim lay in modern Syria in the area of Daraa.
 * Al-Shaykh Saad is widely seen as the site of Ashteroth Karnaim

Other possible sites proposed in the past are:
 * Al Churak, a site proposed by 14th-century topographer and traveller Ishtori Haparchi, aka Astori Pharchi, being eight miles northeast of the ancient ruins known as 'Draä'
 * Muzayrib, an ancient fortress town

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Eastern Cree syllabics

Eastern Cree syllabics are a variant of Canadian Aboriginal syllabics used to write all the Cree dialects from Moosonee, Ontario to Kawawachikamach on the Quebec–Labrador border in Canada that use syllabics.

Cree syllabics uses different glyphs to indicate consonants, and changes the orientation of these glyphs to indicate the vowel that follows it. The basic principles of Canadian syllabic writing are outlined in the article for Canadian Aboriginal syllabics.

In this article, Cree words and sounds will transcribed using the Standard Roman Orthography.

Inventory
The primary difference between eastern and western Cree orthographies is the shape of the final consonants (consonant sounds with no following vowel). Eastern Cree dialects write finals with a superscripted a-syllabic. ᒫᔅᑰᒡ /māskōc/ has two finals, ᔅ /s/ and ᒡ /c/. Other differences are placing the diacritic for labialization (/w/) before rather than after the letter—ᑖᐺ /tāpwē/ (Western Cree ᑖᐻ),—and several additional series for consonants not found in Western Cree.

* The glyphs for v ([v]) \ f ([f]) and th ([ð] and [θ]) are rare and used only in words borrowed from other languages. However, the Inuktitut adaptation of Eastern Cree syllabics commonly uses the Eastern Cree v \ f set as their v set.

Other finals:
 * There is in Moose Cree an /sk/ final which merges into one character ᔅ /s/ and ᒃ /k/. ᐊᒥᔉ /amisk/ beaver
 * The Moose Cree final /y/ is a ring written above the previous syllabic instead of the raised /ya/: ᐋᣁ /āšay/ now.
 * East Cree has special finals for ᒄ /kw/ and ᒽ /mw/ which are raised versions of the o-syllabics. ᒥᔅᑎᒄ /mistikw/ tree.
 * Naskapi does not mark vowel length at all and uses two dots, either placed above or before a syllable, for a w: ᐛ wa, ᐖ wo, ᑥ twa, ᒂ kwa, ᒠ cwa, ᒺ mwa, ᓏ nwa, ᔄ swa, ᔽ ywa. Since Naskapi s- consonant clusters are all labialized, sCw-, these also have the two dots: ᔌ spwa, etc. There is also a labialized final sequence, ᔊ -skw, which is a raised so-ko.

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Edward & Mrs. Simpson

Edward & Mrs. Simpson is a seven-part British television series that dramatises the events leading to the 1936 abdication of King Edward VIII, who gave up his throne to marry the twice-divorced American Wallis Simpson.

The series, made by Thames Television for ITV, was originally broadcast in 1978. Edward Fox played Edward, and Cynthia Harris portrayed Mrs. Simpson. The series was scripted by Simon Raven, based on Fox's maternal aunt Frances Donaldson's biography of the King, Edward VIII. It was produced by Andrew Brown, overseen by the Head of Drama at Thames Television Verity Lambert and directed by Waris Hussein. The incidental music was by Ron Grainer.

The series, broadcast in the US in 1979 as instalments of the nationally syndicated Mobil Showcase Network, won the 1980 Emmy Award for Outstanding Limited Series, and BAFTA Awards in 1979 for Best Actor, Best Design, Best Costume Design, and Best Series or Serial. It has been released on DVD in Region 2 (UK) by Network, and in Region 1 (United States) by A&E.

Episodes

 * 1) "The Little Prince": Edward's life in the 1920s as Prince of Wales, his romances with Freda Dudley Ward and Lady Furness, his introduction to Mr. and Mrs. Ernest Simpson. There is a slight historical query as the first official meeting of Edward and Mrs Simpson took place at Burrough Court near Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, on Saturday 10 January 1931. The episode suggests a short meeting took place at the London residence of Lady Furness in the autumn of 1930 (which is not documented and therefore cannot be proved).
 * 2) "Venus at the Prow": The romance between Edward and Mrs. Simpson develops, with regular weekends at his country home Fort Belvedere outside London near Windsor.
 * 3) "The New King": Edward succeeds to the throne on the death of his father, King George V, in January 1936, and asks Mrs. Simpson to marry him. Mr. Simpson agrees to a divorce. The King, Mrs. Simpson, and friends cruise the Mediterranean, an event widely reported by the press outside Britain. Mrs Simpson is invited to Balmoral Castle, which causes difficulties with Edward's brother Bertie and his wife Elizabeth.
 * 4) "The Divorce": Edward convinces Mrs. Simpson to go forward with her divorce; she would then be free to marry him and be crowned Queen at the coronation scheduled for May 1937. The King and the government pressure the British press to maintain silence about the King's romance, but news dribbles into Britain and gossip abounds.
 * 5) "The Decision": Edward is warned that British press silence about his 'friendship' with Mrs. Simpson is about to be broken. The King tells the royal family and the Prime Minister that he intends to marry Wallis Simpson, and will abdicate if he cannot do so as King.
 * 6) "Proposals": Attempts are made to resolve the problem without Edward abdicating, including a proposal put forth by the King for a morganatic marriage with Wallis Simpson. The British and Dominion governments oppose the marriage in any form.
 * 7) "The Abdication": The final days of Edward as King as attempts to gain more time are undercut by Edward himself. The signing of the Deed of Abdication on 10 December 1936 at Fort Belvedere. The radio broadcast to the nation on 11 December 1936 from the Augusta Tower, Windsor Castle. Edward's exile sailing on HMS Fury (H76) from Portsmouth. The marriage of Edward and Mrs Simpson on 3 June 1937.

Music
In 1978, RK Records released an official soundtrack album (UK cat No: RKLP 5003). It had 12 tracks, some composed or arranged by Ron Grainer and all played by his orchestra. The track listing is as follows:

 * Side one
 * 1) "I've Danced with a Man" (Herbert Farjeon)
 * 2) "The Very Thought of You" (Ray Noble)
 * 3) "A Room with a View" (Noël Coward)
 * 4) "If I Had You" (Al Bowlly)
 * 5) "Of Cabbages and Kings"
 * 6) "Bring Down the Curtain"

 * Side two
 * 1) "One More Dance"
 * 2) "Dance Little Lady" (Coward)
 * 3) "Tango"
 * 4) "When Love Grows Cold"
 * 5) "Rumours in the Wind"
 * 6) "I've Danced with a Man" (End Titles/Reprise) (Farjeon)

The theme music used for the opening and closing titles was a composite of Herbert Farjeon's 1927 song "I've danced with a man, who's danced with a girl, who's danced with the Prince of Wales" and the opening of the British national anthem "God Save the King." The vocalist for "I've Danced with a Man", "Bring Down the Curtain" and "One More Dance" is Jenny Wren.

Al Bowlly's original recordings of "Isn't It Heavenly" and "Love Is the Sweetest Thing" are also used in the series.

The soundtrack album was produced and engineered by Barry Kingston for Robert Kingston Productions Ltd.

Cast

 * Edward Fox as King Edward VIII
 * Cynthia Harris as Wallis Simpson
 * David Waller as Stanley Baldwin
 * Nigel Hawthorne as Walter Monckton
 * Dame Peggy Ashcroft as Queen Mary
 * Marius Goring as King George V
 * Cherie Lunghi as Lady Thelma Furness
 * Kika Markham as Freda Dudley Ward
 * Jessie Matthews as Aunt Bessie Merryman
 * Charles Keating as Ernest Simpson
 * Andrew Ray as the Duke of York
 * Amanda Reiss as the Duchess of York
 * John Shrapnel as Alexander Hardinge
 * Maurice Denham as Cosmo Lang, Archbishop of Canterbury
 * Ed Devereaux as Lord Beaverbrook
 * Geoffrey Lumsden as Geoffrey Dawson
 * Patrick Troughton as Clement Attlee
 * Trevor Bowen as Duff Cooper
 * Patricia Hodge as Lady Diana Cooper
 * Elsie Randolph as Lady Sibyl Colefax
 * Bessie Love as Emerald (Maud) Cunard
 * Tony Church as Sir Samuel Hoare
 * Wensley Pithey as Winston Churchill
 * Gary Waldhorn as Chips Channon
 * Hugh Fraser as Anthony Eden
 * Gerald Sim as Theodore Goddard
 * Jeremy Child as equerry Piers “Joey” Legh
 * Simon Cadell as equerry Major John Renton Aird
 * Michael Stroud as Esmond Harmsworth
 * William Hoyland as Lord-in-waiting Lord Perry Brownlow

Production
The series was made by Thames Television, part of the ITV network, at its Teddington Studios.

Response
The series was produced and aired during the Duchess of Windsor's lifetime and it is reported that although becoming increasingly ill, she found the series to be a gross invasion of her privacy. Her requests to be sent a copy of the script were apparently ignored and she received correspondence from people who said they would not watch the series.

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Possible New Section
Should we include a section describing some of the errors included in the documentary that could not be cleared up before the release of the documentary. Ex- The test "proving" that someone could shoot themselvess while high on heroin was actually debunked prior to the release of the film but it was too late for Broomfield to correct it. The doctor involved verified that the experiment was flawed. So, should we include this info?BoyintheMachine (talk) 05:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Conclusive evidence?
I didn't think the film made it look like Courtney Love could of had him killed. It's part of the film but even Nick stops believing it at one point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.251.19 (talk) 21:39, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Ditto. It's been a while since I watched it but if I remember correctly, Broomfield's conclusion was the exact opposite; that there wasn't enough evidence to suggest a conspiracy. 96.247.195.226 (talk) 00:42, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I just watched this movie for the first time and there is no conclusion that Courtney had Kurt killed. Please fix this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.22.30.184 (talk) 04:17, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Be careful here. The information about Ms Love surely falls under the rules of Biographies of living persons. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 02:56, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Reception?
You mention the "mixed reviews", yet include nothing on the film's reception. In that same vein, the persons impacted by and featured in the film surely had statements to make - condemnation, sorry they participated, comments out of context, or stand by their statements? Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 03:01, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

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DVD
Has this ever come to DVD yet? --User:Angie Y.
 * Not yet, but it's easy to track down on eBay for a low price. Got my copy there.Rebochan
 * I wonder where my VHS of this is. H2P 03:35, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Something like this, Burger King should release as public domain, it's a public service announcement after all. Tyciol (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Translated into other languages?
I seem to remember this show being translated into several other languages and airing overseas, is that correct? CrazyC83 03:15, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, this special was broadcasted (but only in Mexican schools in drug-abuse prevention programs) here in Mexico, but the Spanish dub is really bad (it was dubbed in a Spanish-speaking voice-acting studio in Los Angeles.( --Luisedgarf 03:48, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I remember seeing it in a german dub here in germany too. I think they even showed at schools.81.201.224.13 09:53, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I remember watching this here in México as a kid, it was broadcasted on TV, altough i'm not sure on wich network.Vicco Lizcano 19:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC) (Tell me where I'm wrong)
 * It was also translated in French and was simulcast broadcasted in Quebec a weekend in early 90s.  Kids were informed at school about the show, I think the provincial police or/and RCMP was involded. --69.51.192.203 (talk) 01:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Ebolaworld Parody
There was a parody of this made that currently resides on Ebolaword.com. Not sure where to put that.--64.148.56.235 20:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Word or world? Tyciol (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Not thought out
Has anybody concidered the irony of having a kid who takes drugs getting lectured by talking chipmonks, a fuzzy alien, little blue people and a stoner ninja turtle? Wouldn't he just think he's on a really cool trip? It's like taking ecstasy and having the My Little Ponies take you to Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island... 68.48.174.136 20:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, and am I the only one who finds it ironic that Michaelangelo, the turtle with the stoner accent in his voice, is the one chosen to denounce drugs? BabySinclair 19:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Michelangelo has a surfer and/or hippy accent, not a stoner accent. He's a partier, but he doesn't do drugs. He trips over normal legal things. Tyciol (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well it's definitely a good point, but it's not worth adding to the article. Also, marijuana won't make you trip like that, and to the best of my knowledge in that special, he was only on marijuana (of all the drugs they COULD have chosen, they pick the one that's basically harmless). As for Michelangelo's presence, I'm sure they picked him to point out that NONE of the ninja turtles smoke, not even the stoner one. This is why i stick to the REAL cartoons; Scooby-Doo, Ren & Stimpy, Spongebob, Rocko's Modern Life, they'd never sell out like this. If there were a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon, Watterson would never let them be used for this, regardless of his position, because it's stupid that they go after marijuana solely and nothing else. No heroin, no coke, no meth, none of the drugs that RUIN PEOPLES LIVES AND WRECK FAMILIES, no, let's go after that EVIL drug, MARIJUANA. Let's take on the one people like to use, and don't get easily addicted to. "gateway drug" my ass. It's only a gateway if you let it. It's not a given or anything like that. --George The Man 21:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, other than him having the "munchies" (have you SEEN the weird shit he puts on pizzas?) and the way he talks... yeah... he comes of as a stoner. Tough I doubt they could really go with any other drugs. Pot is pretty tame but what else would they go with? Coke? Heroin? That would probably be way too dark. "Watch as the kid puts a belt around his arm, injects and just sits there completly wasted while a pile of cartoobn characters gather around him and hold an intervention."95.109.102.252 (talk) 23:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

weed is not a drug. Smokiewight (talk) 02:48, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Herbal medicine is still medicine, aka drugs. and marijuana CAN "ruin peoples lives and wreck families" as well as be addictive. but I do agree completely about how stupid this cartoon is for only focusing on "pot". BraveStarr's episode "The Price" with the "spin" drug, "cool" drug dealer, deranged addicts, stealing money, the death of a character, and the tombstone ...was handled a lot better than Cartoon All Stars To The Rescue. In-Correct (talk) 23:22, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

However, marijuana cannot lead to real (physical, nicotine or heroine) type of addiction and death as presented in the cartoon, so it should be seen as biased anti-pot propaganda, exploiting cartoon caracters. And funded by McDonalds. 79.175.73.88 (talk) 08:43, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Jim Davis objected?

 * However, the character of Garfield was reportedly used without the permission of Jim Davis, its creator, and consequently the special was never rerun, although it was broadcast in Mexico and many Latin American countries in limited scale.

I'm removing this until the claim is substantiated. At least two IMDB users (presumably in the U.S.) report it having been rerun, for example. They could be wrong, but so can the IMDB trivia page (or wherever else this idea may have come from). - furrykef (Talk at me) 07:52, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * As I understand it Jim Davis who owns the Garfield character and name trademarks licensed out the television/cartoon rights to Film Roman which produced the syndicated Garfield cartoon also has the right under their licensing agreement to develop and produce the Garfield character in other television/cartoon projects until it expires or is terminated keeping him (Davis) pretty much out of the loop which apparently happens a lot in cartoon production, another incident of this was when the Warner Bros. Television production of Baby Blues based on the Rick Kirkman and Jerry Scott comic strip was produced for the now defunct The WB network where both Kirkman and Scott were kept out of the development of the show even though they held Executive Producer titles. Simon Bar Sinister (talk) 15:01, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If it can't be rerun because of Garfield, why don't they just clip out the scenes where Garfield is featured? The special would still make sense without them. Tyciol (talk) 21:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Merge?
The page Cartoon all-stars to the rescue exists in addition to this one, it has substantially less information than this page but does have an information box that could be merged with this page. If someone can merge them then that page could be link to this one Quadparty 12:44, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah merging that into this one sounds like a good idea. Probably already done amirite? Tyciol (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Tags
I don't see the need for the tags on this page. Can someone explain why they're there?  Citi Cat  15:26, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Mickey Mouse
Looking at the history, it said Mickey was in this special. Mickey was not, lol Ryan Holloway 00:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Nonsense supervising animators
Got rid of the big section on supervising animators, I look on IMDB and NONE of them were supervising animators on this! --Hailey 21:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Alvin and the Chipmunks Template
Why is this under the A&tC template? It wasn't "their" special, it was a multitude of cartoons, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by snachodog (talk) 19:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that's unnecessary as well. Vaughnstull (talk) 22:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, it would only be appropriate if it appeared in the template of EVERY cartoon character featured in this... which isn't a bad idea, to get it some publicity. Tyciol (talk) 20:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

To the Rescue vs. Plea
Someone bolded Cartoon All-Stars' Plea in the introduction. I redirected this term to this article in case it is actually a title for this, but I can't find any source. Did someone alter the title to something that doesn't exist, or did they rename it this in some release in another country? I notice 'Plea' is also written above the image caption, despite the picture it over saying 'to the rescue'. I put the Plea title in parenthesis for now, I think the first title should be the one the article's name is. Tyciol (talk) 20:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Burger King or McDonalds?
This article says Burger King financed it, yet the 2nd external link (the review by X-Entertainment) says "a McDonald's-promoted special". Can we confirm if it was one or the other or (gasp) both? Actually, I just did, it's McDonalds, so I changed that. I'm not sure who put BK... if anyone else who's seen this wants to back me up? Tyciol (talk) 21:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I vividly remember watching the premiere, which was bookended by commercials for McDonald's. Also, one of the sponsors was Ronald McDonald's Children's Charities (as mentioned at the very end of the credits). Can't remember if Burger King had anything to do with the production. I doubt it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.47.74 (talk) 05:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

SYNOPSIS
I can't believe I didn't even notice this at first glance, someone vandalized this article, we need to revert the synopses. Done, but keep an eye on it, might need to lock it if it continues, this is occuring real-time. Tyciol (talk) 22:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

 * The IP seems to have stopped for now but I'll keep an eye on it. For some reason, this article seems to be a magnet for people looking to add nonsense to WP. As it appears to be a long-term problem, I've semi-protected the article for one month. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 22:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

No mention of Menken and Ashman?!
If you ask me, the most notable thing about this film was the music contributed by Alan Menken and the late Howard Ashman. And if I remember correctly, this was their very last collaboration...

you mean,beauty and the beast wasn't? Smokiewight (talk) 02:50, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Harmony Smurf
In order to find him look after Michael takes the piggy bank and shuts Corey's door. When the Smurfs comic book flips through pages, pause the film and at the right side of the comic book, a brief picture of Harmony Smurf playing his trumpet can be seen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.26.53.243 (talk) 23:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Wow, I actually do see him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.152.44 (talk) 10:31, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, I meant to say the bottom left hand corner. Sorry about that.

VHS releases
Why do the non-U.S. releases all say "(seized)"? Trivialist (talk) 00:42, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

 * I was wondering the same thing. WikiLubber (talk) 01:12, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

 * Anyone? Trivialist (talk) 18:04, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Smurfette
Smurfette can be found on the VHS cover but she doesn't appear in the special. That makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.104.104.85 (talk) 21:19, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

What If...
Sony Pictures Took License For Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue with Sony Pictures Taking License For Tootuff For $1000?

Broadcast: lies
It seems this awful table keeps cropping up, its filled with lies and worse of all its linked to even more LIES on IMDB, Crazyseiko (talk) 21:46, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

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