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Talk:Elizabeth Wurtzel

Plagarism Accusations
Wurtzel was, prior to writing "Prozac Nation", fired from The Dallas Morning News for plagarizing another writer's work. I hadn't known this before and I think it should be included in this article because she's supposedly a journalist, and we should be made aware of a journalist who is a known plagarist.

Here is a link to an article that discusses the plagarism incident http://themediamob.observer.com/2006/03/the-liars-club-an-incomplete-history-of-untruths-and-consequ.html

And here's the excerpted section of the article dealing w/ Wurtzel:

The Accused: Elizabeth Wurtzel

Crime Against Journalism: Plagiarism

Rap Sheet: In 1988, Wurtzel was accused of lifting passages from another writer's work in her work in The Dallas Morning News. (See: Beg, Borrow, Or..., by Dwight Garner, Salon, July 22, 1996.)

Plea: None.

Sentence Fired from The Dallas Morning News.

Afterlife: After her firing, Wurtzel managed to become the music critic for New York, The New Yorker, and publish the memoir Prozac Nation in 1997. (That book also faced accusations of fabrications). In 2004, Wurtzel was accepted by Yale Law School.

Hollywood Ending: The film version of Wurtzel's Prozac Nation was made in 2001 but didn't appear in the U.S. until 2005 when it went direct to cable.

I agree this needs to be in here. I added it and hope it will remain. See http://observer.com/2006/03/the-liars-club-an-incomplete-history-of-untruths-and-consequences/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdus5678 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

9/11 Comments
The comments Wurtzel made regarding 9/11 are listed on the Prozac Nation page (as a possible explination as to why the movie was not released in theaters), but I feel they belong on the author's page. I don't want to turn this into an anti-Wurtzel page (and keeping in mind that many other writers/actors/etc. have publicly said stupid things about terrorism/Sept. 11) but the fact is she caught a lot of flack for saying this. Wurtzel being an "outspoken" person, should be held to what she says.

Here is an excerpt from the Prozac Nation article's section on the 9/11 controversy

[Wurtzel] was quoted in a February 16, 2002 article by Jan Wong titled, "That's enough about me, now, what do you think of me?", for The Globe and Mail in Toronto:

[About 9/11] My main thought was: What a pain in the ass... I had not the slightest emotional reaction. I thought, this is a really strange art project... It was a most amazing sight in terms of sheer elegance. It fell like water. It just slid, like a turtleneck going over someone's head... It was just beautiful. You can't tell people this. I'm talking to you because you're Canadian... I just felt like everyone was overreacting. People were going on about it. That part really annoyed me... I cried about all the animals left there in the neighbourhood... I think I have some kind of emotional block. I think I should join some support group for people who were there... You know what was really funny? After the fact, like, all these different writers were writing these things about what it was like, and nobody bothered to call me.

Law School
"harvard law school so says her website"

That was her original school. A Google on +"Elizabeth Wurtzel" +"Yale Law School" shows she is now attending Yale.

 * Is it note worthy that she works at Boise Schiller? Or that she failed the July '08 bar exam?

http://gawker.com/5090905/elizabeth-wurtzels-name-missing-on-bar-exam-pass-list —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.188.199.11 (talk) 15:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

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Comparisons with Plath and Sexton
"She has been compared to Anne Sexton and Sylvia Plath but generally the comparisons are flat, and Wurtzel's work falls far short of the literary merit of the two earlier poets." This is backed up by a source to one review. The opinion of one reviewer should not be stated as fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.135.225 (talk) 23:46, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

latest addition by nominal actor
this is a highly contentious account of wurtzel's guardian article, which argues that nothing can explain the virulent reaction to gaza, not criticism per se; and it misrepresents her as saying what she quoted Derrida as saying, in order to derive the bizarre conclusion that she's a jewish supremacist. hopefully it will be corrected by someone without a chip on his or her shoulder. RIchard Landes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.232.157.80 (talk) 15:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I cut the paragraph, as the reference has almost nothing to do with the assertion in the paragraph, and as such, it appears POV. If there's a reference where she actually advocates "Jewish Supremacism" rather than quote Derrida describing his life in the Jewish ghetto(! - how does this get conflated into her opinion - do we attribute on wiki to historians the random musings of those they cited in painting a picture of a time period?), it can go in. Similarly, if there's a reference where she actually says all criticism of Gaza is due to anti-semitism, that ought to go in. What she actually says in the article previously cited is "'with all the troubles in the world, with the terrible things that the Chinese do in Tibet, and do to their own citizens; with the horrors of genocide committed in Darfur by Sudanese Muslims; with all the bad things that Arab governments in the Middle East visit upon their own people – no need for Israel to have a perfectly horrible time – still, the focus is on what the Jews may or may not be doing wrong in Gaza. And it makes people angry and vehement as nothing else does. The vitriol it inspires is downright weird.'" She's saying the vehemence and prevalence of the criticism is antisemitic, not the criticism itself. Feel free to read for yourself and check.

I'm sure the cut paragraph was simply an honest misreading, but we should make sure to look carefully at people's words before summarizing them, especially on such hot-button issues. Better for everyone concerned. -YCubed (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Just modified the new clearly POV paragraph that replaced the cut one with a paragraph that actually quotes Wurtzel (as the rest of the controversy section does for each topic), so her meaning cannot be misconstrued. I'm pretty sure the new paragraph is even-handed and more informative, as I list more information and quotes. -YCubed (talk) 16:38, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I removed some things, perhaps temporarily
I removed the following stuff, perhaps temporarily. These two extended quotes appear to be juxtaposed in order to make it appear that she changed her story about her emotional reaction to September 11th. But depending on the meaning and context, it is possible that these two quotes are not actually contradicting each other. In any event, the main point is that there is a core claim here that "controversy erupted" - but did it? I see no source (not even unreliable ones) that there is actually a controversy here.

"Controversy erupted over comments that Wurtzel, who lived near the World Trade Center in New York, made about the September 11 attacks. Initially, in an interview in October 2001, Wurtzel had stated: I remember sitting in my apartment and when the first tower fell and the ground shook and one of my windows blew out and there was all this horrible gray and brown dust blowing into my apartment, and I was on the phone with my college roommate, who was calling from Washington basically to say, "Get out of your apartment. You just have to get out of your apartment." And I screamed really loud while I was on the phone with her and I just kept saying, "I'm going to die." And I later spoke to her and she said she's never heard me sound so afraid. And I think it was because for the first time in my life I felt like, you know, in actual danger... As of right now, all it is one horrible, horrible day in the history of this city and this country. We don't know yet what else is gonna happen. But I do think people our age are pretty philosophical about this stuff. Maybe it's just a refusal to believe that anything terrible is going to happen. I mean, maybe that's my problem. Maybe that's what I sound like.

However, on February 16, 2002, during an interview with Jan Wong entitled "That's enough about me, now, what do you think of me?", for The Globe and Mail in Toronto, she was quoted as saying: My main thought was: What a pain in the ass... I had not the slightest emotional reaction. I thought, this is a really strange art project... It was a most amazing sight in terms of sheer elegance. It fell like water. It just slid, like a turtleneck going over someone's head... It was just beautiful. You can't tell people this. I'm talking to you because you're Canadian... I just felt like everyone was overreacting. People were going on about it. That part really annoyed me... I cried about all the animals left there in the neighborhood... I think I have some kind of emotional block. I think I should join some support group for people who were there... You know what was really funny? After the fact, like, all these different writers were writing these things about what it was like, and nobody bothered to call me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.240.131 (talk • contribs)

 * I also intended to get into the article and do some damage to this WP:SYNTH-violative attack piece. But it was placed on my watchlist and I forgot about it. Thanks for the removal. I fully agree that per WP:BLP, this type of synthesis has no place in the article. There are a few more problems with the article and I intend to get to them as well. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 23:50, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Penguin Lawsuit
Apparently Wurtzel's publisher is suing her to recoup an advance, made against her next book, which was paid in 2003. I CBA to edit the article right now, but maybe someone else is interested in improving this article - News article at The Smoking Gun — Preceding unsigned comment added by Strolls (talk • contribs) 18:58, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

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Ayran

Ayran or Doogh and/or dhallë, dew, avamast, mastaw, shaneena, or xynogala is a cold savory yogurt-based beverage popular across Central Asia, West Asia, Southeastern Europe, South Asia, North Asia and Eastern Europe. The principal ingredients are yogurt, water and salt. Herbs such as mint may be optionally added. Some varieties are carbonated.

The Iranian variety is called doogh.

Etymology
Ayran (cf. airag in Mongolian: 'mare milk', uyran (уйран) in Chuvash: 'buttermilk') is mentioned in Mahmud al-Kashgari's 11th century Dīwān Lughāt al-Turk, although he did not give any information how ayran was made. The word is derived from the Old Turkic root adır- ("to separate"), cf. Turkish ayır- ("to separate").

Preparation
Ayran is served chilled and often as an accompaniment to grilled meat, bread or rice, especially during summer. It is made by mixing yogurt with chilled or iced water and is sometimes carbonated and seasoned with mint. It has been variously described as "diluted yogurt" and "a most refreshing drink made by mixing yogurt with iced water".

The traditional way of preparing the drink among various Iranic peoples is straight from milk, without yogurt, using a waterskin, known as mashk (مشک) in Luri, Kurdish and Persian in Iran, and maskah (مسکه) in Afghanistan. This is done by pouring the milk in the waterskin, usually made of deer or sheep skin, and shaking it for hours, sometimes using a wooden structure to keep the waterskin above the ground with woolen strings to make the task easier. In Pakistan, ayran is sometimes called Namkeen Lassi.

History
A type of ayran was developed in Central Asia and historically was consumed by Turkic tribes. According to Nevin Halıcı, ayran was consumed by Turks in Central Asia. A c. 1000 CE Turkic dictionary, Dīwān ul-Lughat al-Turk, defines ayran as a "drink made out of milk".

Similar drinks exist elsewhere, such as doogh (دوغ), an Iranian fermented drink that has long been a popular drink and was consumed in ancient Iran (Persia). Described by an 1886 source as a cold drink of curdled milk and water seasoned with mint, its name (Doogh) derives from the Persian word for milking, dooshidan.

Other similar drinks include t’an in Armenia and lassi in the Indian subcontinent; however, they can differ from doogh.

Regional names of the drink and its variations are: dhallë; شنينة šinīna or عيران eayran; chalap; ayran; айрян çeqilmast, dew, do; شلومبې shlombey; ;  daughe;  xinogala or αριάνι ariani; Pontic Greek: αΐραν ayran; ayran.

Variations
Salt, black pepper, dried mint, and lime juice can be mixed in. Diced cucumbers can be added to provide a crunchy texture to the beverage. Some varieties of doogh are carbonated. In Balkan countries, the drink is usually consumed for breakfast or lunch, usually combined with pastries like banitsa, börek or other pastries.

In Afghanistan, ayran (known as dogh, also spelled dough, or shromba) is a summer beverage. It is made with yogurt, salt, mint, diced cucumbers, lime, and is sometimes carbonated. It is enjoyed alongside bolani, Afghan flatbread, and other picnic foods.

In Albania, ayran is known as dhallë and is made exclusively with yogurt, salt and water and it is served cold. The name 'dhallë' comes from mixed and shaken.

In Southern Cyprus, ayran, known as ayrani (αϊρανι) in Greek, is made with sour sheep yogurt, water, salt and mint.

In Russia and some other Slavic countries, the local variant is called kefir which houses a similar taste but is instead made using fermented milk from kefir grains.

Turkish national drink status
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, a Turkish politician who has held the posts of President and Prime Minister, has promoted ayran as a national drink. Speaking at a 2013 WHO Global Alcohol Policy Conference held in Istanbul, Erdoğan contrasted ayran with beer, which he claimed was a recent introduction to Turkey.

Nevertheless, sales of ayran in Turkey lag behind other non-alcoholic beverages. According to a 2015 joint statement from the Soft Drink Producers Association, the Sparkling Water Producers Association, and the Milk Producers and Exporters Union of Turkey, ayran consumption during Ramadan had declined every year for the years 2010 to 2015.

In 2015, Turkey's Ministry of Customs and Trade imposed a 220,000 TL fine (approximately $70,000) on state-owned Çaykur manufacturers, stating that ayran had been "insulted without reason" in one of their advertisements for iced tea, in which the rapper Ceza rapped that ayran makes him sleepy; the ministry halted advertisements of Çaykur's competing iced tea product.

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Shuwa

Shuwa may mean
 * Shuwa Arabic, the Afro-Arabic language spoken in Sudan, Chad and other states of Sahelian Africa
 * The mostly Arab speakers of this language also known as Baggara
 * The Japanese Sign Language (手話)
 * Honinbo Shuwa, a Japanese professional go player
 * Shuwaa, a roasted goat or lamb dish popular in Oman and the UAE
 * Shuwa Madagali, District town of Madagali in Adamawa State

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Christian hardcore

Christian hardcore or Christcore is a subcategory of hardcore punk bands which promote Christian belief. The method and extent of doing so varies between bands. Christian hardcore bands have often openly stated their beliefs and employ Christian imagery in their lyrics, and may be considered a part of the Christian music industry.

Christian hardcore can serve as an unconventional form of religious community for young people who reject mainstream Christian congregations.

Fans of Christian hardcore music are not exclusively believers in the Christian religion. Owing to innovation in the hardcore movement such as Extol, Nobody Special, Zao, Living Sacrifice, and the hardcore movement in general, the audience has become less exclusive.

Related genres

 * Christian punk
 * Christian rock
 * Christian alternative rock
 * Christian metal

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Bescar Lane railway station

Bescar Lane railway station is on the Manchester to Southport Line, 4.5 mi east of Southport in the village of Scarisbrick. Bescar Lane is an old cottage-style station, operated by Northern Trains. Its remote location, some distance from the centre of Scarisbrick Parish, is considered to be "problematic".

History
The station opened on 9 April 1855 when the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway (L&YR) and the East Lancashire Railway (ELR) jointly opened the line from Wigan Wallgate to Southport London Street, the line and station had been planned, authorised and construction started by the Manchester and Southport Railway before it was acquired by the L&YR and ELR on 3 July 1854. The main stone-built station building was built during this time, in the standard L&YR style which had been described as "solid, substantial, well built of stone in the Elizabethan style, neat without undue ornament".The station had the distinction of being the lowest station on that network, situated 12.5 ft above sea-level. The L&YR amalgamated with the London and North Western Railway on 1 January 1922 and in turn was grouped into the London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS) in 1923. Nationalisation followed in 1948. Part of the line running from Bescar Lane directly to Southport through Blowick and St Luke's closed in 1965, in order to enable the closure of the level crossing on a busy road at Blowick, causing trains to divert through Meols Cop on a section of the old Liverpool, Southport and Preston Junction Railway. When Sectorisation was introduced in the 1980s, the station was served by Regional Railways until the privatisation of British Rail.

The station's level crossing was controlled by a signal box until the early 1990s, but this was closed and demolished after automatic barriers were installed and the fixed signals removed. The platform layout has also been altered, with the westbound platform moved to the opposite side of the crossing – previously both platforms were sited on the eastern side (the redundant one can still be seen).

Facilities
The station is unmanned and has no ticket machine, so all tickets must be purchased in advance or on the train. There are shelters on each platform, but no other permanent buildings. Train running information can be obtained from timetable posters or by telephone. Step-free access is available on both platforms.

Services
Monday to Saturdays there is generally a two-hourly service to Southport westbound and Manchester Victoria via Wigan Wallgate and Bolton eastbound. Most of these continue to Stalybridge.

The last service to Southport is at 21:29 and the last service towards Wigan Wallgate and Manchester stations is at 22:28. There is no Sunday service, though a normal service operates on most Bank Holidays.

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Roosevelt Johnson

David Roosevelt Johnson (died October 23, 2004) was a Liberian who led a rebel group during the country's civil war. He was not a member of the Krahn ethnic group he fought for; however, his wife was Krahn.

Biography
A former teacher, Johnson joined the rebel group United Liberation Movement of Liberia for Democracy (ULIMO) soon after the war began. ULIMO split into two factions in 1994: United Liberation Movement of Liberia for Democracy-Kromah faction (ULIMO-K) led by Alhaji G.V. Kromah and the United Liberation Movement of Liberia for Democracy-Johnson faction (ULIMO-J), which was led by Johnson.

Johnson had 6 sons in Liberia. Jotham, his eldest, would take care of the rest of his brothers while Johnson had been on rebel missions. Nigel, Justin, Rob, Hye and Igor had lived without knowing much about their father, as Johnson had hardly been home to care for them.

Fighters loyal to Johnson triggered the first major violation of the Abuja Accord in December 1995, resisting ECOMOG deployment around the diamond mines near Tubmanburg. He was dismissed from the ULIMO-J leadership in early 1996.

Like many involved in the Liberian civil war, Johnson was known to use mercenary fighters to further his causes. One notable example was his funding of Joshua Milton Blahyi, commonly known as General Butt Naked. The General commanded a brigade of drunken or otherwise intoxicated young teenage boys who would fight naked or in women's clothing because of a belief that it would protect them from bullets.

In September 1998, Taylor's government accused Johnson of plotting a coup d'état. Johnson's faction in Monrovia was attacked by President Charles Taylor's security forces, resulting in brutal clashes that saw most of his followers being killed. He managed to flee to the American embassy and Taylor demanded that the Americans turn him over for what he guarantees will be a fair trial. But Washington said the assault at the embassy gate made that promise unreliable.

where another shootout occurred as Taylor's fighters attempted to prevent him from finding sanctuary on the embassy grounds. Johnson, his son, and his few surviving followers were allowed into the embassy, however, where they were protected by U.S. guards until being evacuated to Ghana.

He eventually relocated to Nigeria. He was charged with treason and convicted in absentia, in April 1999. He died in 2004 in Nigeria, following a protracted period of illness.

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Actinidine

Actinidine is an iridoid produced in nature by a wide variety of plants and animals. It was the first cyclopentanoid monoterpene alkaloid to be discovered. It is one of several compounds that may be extracted from the valerian (Valeriana officinalis) root and silver vine (Actinidia polygama), as well as several types of insects in the larval and imaginal stages. Actinidine is a cat attractant, with effects like those of nepetalactone, the active compound found in catnip.

Certain species of stick insects, including Megacrania batesii and Megacrania tsudai, possess a chemical defense mechanism which involves the secretion of an actinidine-containing substance from the prothoracic glands, when threatened by a predator.

Biosynthesis
A potential biosynthesis of actinidine from -citronellal is shown below.

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Silene flos-cuculi

Silene flos-cuculi (syn. Lychnis flos-cuculi), commonly called ragged-robin, is a perennial herbaceous plant in the family Caryophyllaceae. It is native to Eurasia and has been introduced to North America.

Description
Silene flos-cuculi forms a rosette of low growing foliage with numerous stems 20 to 90 cm tall. The stems rise above the foliage and branch near the top of the stem. The leaves are paired, with the lower leaves spoon-shaped and stalked. The middle and upper leaves are linear-lanceolate with pointed apexes. All of the leaves are untoothed. The stems have barbed hairs pointing downward and these hairs make the plant rough to the touch.

Blooming from May to August (and occasionally later), the pink flowers are 3–4 cm wide. They have five narrow petals deeply divided into four lobes giving the flower an untidy, ragged appearance, hence its common name. The calyx tube is five-toothed with ten stamens.

The fruits consist of small (6–10 mm) capsules opening on top by five teeth and containing many small seeds; they are found on the plants from August onwards.

Distribution and habitat
The species is native to Europe and Asia, where it is found along roads and in wet meadows and pastures. It has also become naturalized in parts of the northern United States and eastern Canada.

Ecology
Butterflies and long-tongued bees feed on the flowers' nectar. In addition to these pollinators, the flowers are visited by many types of insects, and can be characterized by a generalized pollination syndrome.

In Britain it has declined in numbers because of modern farming techniques and draining of wet-lands and is no longer common.

Cultivation
Popular garden cultivars include:
 * 'Alba' – white-flowered form
 * ='Lychjen'
 * 'Nana' – dwarf form (4 inches) with smaller leaf rosettes and shorter flower stems
 * 'Petite Jenny'
 * 'White Robin'

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Talk:Football Park

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Whoever said there is no source on the Adelaide Oval redevelopment part, what planet are you on? Everyone that knows anything about footy in SA knows that its happening and its all over the internet. There was a link to the oval page which even says all about it. (121.45.121.211 (talk) 07:04, 13 July 2012 (UTC))

Two points, both from the article itself. How can it hold 6% of the population of Adelaide? When Adelaide's population in the Adelaide article is over 1.1 million, and AAMI stadium holds just over 50000.

How can there have been 20 showdowns when Port leads 12 to 9? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Degenerate4life (talk • contribs)
 * OK, so let's say "about 5%" (4.58 but let's round it up). And Showdown (AFL) shows 21 games played. Next time just be bold and fix them. :) Pudgey 13:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Robbie Williams
"Even Robbie said that this is one of the best shows that he has peformed." Wouldn't performers say this at most concerts they have. It doesn't sound very encyclpaedic to me. GK1 19:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Dimensions?
Erm, how big is the playing area? It isn't in the article. Cheers, Grant  |  Talk  15:31, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Highest Crowd Figures
Highest crowd figures section is just plain wrong. I recall SANFL Grand Final figures were always in the 50000s (up to 55) in the 1980s. Even the article on the 1990 GF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_SANFL_Grand_Final states a crowd of 50,589. The article on 1977 states 56,717. I can't find a list of all GF crowd figures since the stadium was first used. Also what about that Dire Straits or was it INXS concert in about 1985? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.153.24 (talk) 12:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC) Changed to top 3. INXS concert was only 20000 so wouldn't be in top 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.178.40.11 (talk) 07:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Title change
Just a note here that the article name has been changed after consensus was reached at Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board/Archive_28 and Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board. Please see those discussions for full rationale. -- Chuq (talk) 00:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Largest purpose-built
The opening claims "It is also currently the largest purpose-built Australian rules football stadium in the country." This therefore means that Etihad Stadium is not considered a purpose-built Australian rules football stadium by this article, which I think is a fairly controversial claim. In think that we could have a big debate on the topic, but I don't think there would be a consensus. Therefore, I think it is easiest to remove the comment, ensure no similar comment is listed in the Etihad Stadium topic, and leave it there. Aspirex (talk) 12:24, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Needs examination of why AFL is abandoning it
After so much effort has apparently gone into turning it into a suitable AFL stadium, the article needs to address why Adelaide and Port are now abandoning it. What's wrong with it compared to to Adelaide Oval ? Rcbutcher (talk) 11:21, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

80,000 at Robbie Williams - an April Fools' Joke?
The crowd of 80,000 was added on April 1 2008 by an anon editor. The same anon editor put a crowd of 100,000 elsewhere on Wikipedia on the same day. Furthermore, an edit done just after Robbie's 2006 concert said 60000 Unless I can find an independent source, I'm going to assume it (the 80000) was an April Fool's joke and change it to 60k. Adpete (talk) 06:25, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

And since Adelaide Now links have a habit of disappearing, I'll cut and paste a few parts from, talking about Adele's 2017 concert at Adelaide Oval. Note promoter Michael Coppel has an interest in downplaying Robbie Williams and upplaying U2, but still: "I think it will break the record (of U2 in 2006) and I promoted that show, which was shy of 60,000, and we’re going to exceed 60,000 with Adele... Mr Coppel labelled previous media reports that Robbie Williams hosted 80,000 fans at Football Park in 2006 as "impossible". "I promoted U2 (at Football Park) in 2006 and there is no way that amount of people could get into that venue - it would be not only dangerous but impossible.".

Then later in the article:

ADELAIDE’S GREATEST HITS Adelaide Now is not the greatest source, but it's better than an anon Wikipedia edit. Adpete (talk) 11:36, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * 1986 — Dire Straits: 55,000+ Football Park
 * 1993 — Madonna: 40,000+ Adelaide Oval
 * 1996 — Michael Jackson: 30,000+ Adelaide Oval
 * 1998 — Elton John/Billy Joel: 37,000+ Adelaide Oval
 * 2006 — Robbie Williams: 50,000+ Football Park
 * 2006 — U2 (supported by Kanye West): 58,000 Football Park
 * 2011 — Foo Fighters: 36,000 Adelaide Oval
 * 2010 — AC/DC: 41,000+ Adelaide Oval
 * 2014 — Rolling Stones: 54,000+ Adelaide Oval
 * 2015 — AC/DC: 52,000+ Adelaide Oval
 * 2017 — Adele: 60,000 Adelaide Oval

Also there's no mention of Robbie Williams in this Billboard chart of top grossing concerts, Nov 15 2006 to May 15 2007 (Robbie was Dec 5 2006), which has U2 in Adelaide at #8 (and U2 in Melbourne at #1). Admittedly this is on money (not attendance), but still... Adpete (talk) 22:46, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

 * I agree all of the top events including the Franklin Graham crusades should appear here. It shows context as to what this stadium meant to Adelaide people in its time 120.29.52.216 (talk) 03:48, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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Franklin Graham crusade (Billy Graham's son)
Should there be something about Franklin Graham crusades at Adelaide Football Park in Feb 2 1998 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/aus.religion.christian/HLuqIgj9RCc 120.29.52.216 (talk) 03:47, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Bob Dylan
In the article Scott Hicks (director) it is claimed Hicks photographed Dylan at West Lakes in 1978. I can only think this means Football Park but there is no mention here of such a concert. Doug butler (talk) 23:04, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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Albany Airport (disambiguation)

Albany Airport, or Albany International Airport, is an airport in Albany, New York, US

Albany Airport may also refer to:

 * Albany Airport (Australia) in Albany, Western Australia (IATA: ALH, ICAO YABA)
 * Albany Municipal Airport (Oregon) in Albany, Oregon, United States (FAA: S12)
 * Albany Municipal Airport (Missouri) in Albany, Missouri, United States (FAA: K19)
 * Albany Municipal Airport (Texas) in Albany, Texas, United States (FAA: T23)
 * Albany, Green county, Wisconsin (FAA : 54W)

Other airports in places named Albany:

 * Southwest Georgia Regional Airport in Albany, Georgia, United States (FAA/IATA: ABY)
 * Ohio University Airport-Snyder Field in Athens/Albany, Ohio, United States (FAA/IATA: UNI)
 * New Albany-Union County Airport in New Albany, Mississippi, United States (FAA: M72)

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Wikipedia:User scripts/Techniques

This page will collect various techniques for achieving common tasks needed in writing user scripts. Discussion about limitations, relative portability, and speed of the various alternatives is strongly encouraged. There is a lot of duplication and non-optimal efforts out there, and this will hopefully encourage us to write tighter, more correct code, both easier and faster.

An advanced API for interacting with Wikipedia content is being developed, large parts of which are already operational. The various possibilities are described at API. The idea is to send an AJAX request (see below) to the API containing a query. The result of this query can be returned in several formats, of which JSON is perhaps the most useful, see below.

Identifying the type of page
This refers to techniques for identifying the current namespace of the current page, whether or not it is an edit page, a preview page, a Special page, etc.

Preview pages
document.getElementById("wikiPreview")
 * From: Add Edit Top Link

Edit pages
document.getElementById("editform") This will be null when not editing a page.

History pages
mw.config.get('wgAction') === 'history'

Special pages
mw.config.get('wgCanonicalNamespace') === 'Special'

Pages with history
document.getElementById('ca-history')
 * From: Add purge to tabs

Editable pages
document.getElementById('ca-edit') Be advised that this also returns the edit tab if you're currently editing the page.
 * From: Add edit section 0

Getting the page title and namespace

 * contains the name of the namespace, e.g. "" for article space
 * is normally false but for special pages it contains the non-localized name.
 * is 0 for the main namespace, -1 for special pages, and other values for other namespaces.
 * is the article name as it is shown on the url, e.g. "Wikipedia:User_scripts/Techniques". It includes the namespace identifier.
 * is the title of the article, without namespace identifier or escaping, e.g. "User scripts/Techniques".

Getting the various toolbars (personal, tabs, sidebar)
var tabs = document.getElementById(BAR NAME).getElementsByTagName('ul')[0]; TODO: Someone please test the search and toolbox ones, and see if they work the same. Thanks!
 * Where BAR NAME is one of the following strings:
 * 'p-cactions' - the tabs at the top of the page (with the article, discussion, edit, history, move, and watch links)
 * 'p-personal' - the personal toolbar (i.e. the one at the top, with a link to user page, user talk, prefs, watchlist, contribs, log out)
 * 'p-navigation' - the navigation toolbar (i.e. Main page, Featured Content, etc.)
 * 'p-interaction' - the interaction toolbar, below the navigation toolbar
 * 'p-tb' - the toolbox (What links here, Related changes etc.)
 * The search box is 'p-search' but there's no <ul> element in it. [ælfəks] 10:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The search box can be retrieved by simply replacing the  in   with , as all the toolboxes' ids are in div tags.  Extreme circuitz  (Talk | Userboxes page) 20:17, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Inserting content
document.getElementById("content").insertBefore(document.createTextNode("abcdef"), document.getElementsByTagName("h1")[0])
 * On a page with a h1 heading, this works in Firefox 1.0.4 on OSX, but fails on some other browsers. Anyone know how or why? JesseW 20:58, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * No, but does it help if you delay execution until the page has loaded? Lupin|talk|popups 12:14, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Pressing buttons
document.editform.wpDiff.click

 * Presses the diff button.

Altering existing interface links
To change the url, name, or any other aspect of existing tab buttons, personal bar links, or other links, use the following: (where id is the id of the link to be changed, e.g. "pt-preferences", "ca-edit", "n-portal" or "t-whatlinkshere"; url is the new URL, and name is the new displayed name for the link, e.g. "my preferences", "edit this page", "Community Portal", or "What links here")

document.getElementById(id).childNodes[0].href=url q=document.getElementById(id).firstChild; q.removeChild(q.firstChild); q.appendChild(document.createTextNode(name))

Onload Structure
jQuery can attach functions to the onLoad event:

$( myFunction );

Functions can also be written inline as $( function {    // Code here } );

Do not assign window.onload to a function directly, as this overwrites any other onLoad functions that may have been previously set.

Include an external js-file on wikipedia
mw.loader.load is a loader method to load external javascript or css:

AJAX

 * See WikiProject User scripts/Guide

Automatic edits
On classic edit pages you can find the textbox with the wikitext like this: var t = document.editform.wpTextbox1; Then use the methods of the textSelection plugin to interact with the textarea or edit summary. This module makes sure that your modification works in combination with other modules that want to manipulate the value of the textarea, like syntax highlighting modules.

JSON
Parsing JSON text, as delivered by e.g. the MediaWiki API is done automatically when using jQuery utilities:

Update a script
Scripts on a user's computer are updated to the most recent version by bypassing (clearing) the browser cache - the user has to push Shift-Reload (Mozilla) or Shift-F5 (MS-IE). A JavaScript can do the same by calling: This forced reload ("forceGet") immediately reloads the current page including all images, scripts, and stylesheets. This should not be done from edit or preview pages as the edits might get lost.

For users that have a lot of scripts installed, reloading them all may take up a lot of time. See Gerbrant.mng.decache and its talk page for example code on how you can let JavaScript remove arbitrary files from your browser cache using an external application.

Edit a page on another Wikimedia wiki
Although not commonly used, CORS is enabled between all Wikimedia wikis. For an example of cross-wiki editing, see here.

Timezone formatting
The selected timezone of a user is available via, which will return something like  , where 180 is the number of minutes to add to UTC to obtain a time in the user's preferred time zone. The number might be negative.

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New Lane railway station

New Lane railway station serves the town of Burscough in West Lancashire, in England. It is served and managed by Northern Trains and is situated near the Martin Mere bird sanctuary, which can be reached by a 1-mile walk.

The main stone-built station building survives adjacent to the Wigan-bound platform, but is now in use for non-railway purposes (as a private house), modest shelters now being provided on both platforms for rail travellers.

History
The station opened on 9 April 1855 when the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway (L&YR) and the East Lancashire Railway (ELR) jointly opened the line from Wigan Wallgate to Southport London Street, the line and station had been planned, authorised and construction started by the Manchester and Southport Railway before it was acquired by the L&YR and ELR on 3 July 1854. The main stone-built station building (no longer in use) was built during this time, in the standard L&YR style (albeit on a smaller scale compared with Burscough Bridge]) which had been described as "solid, substantial, well built of stone in the Elizabethan style, neat without undue ornament". The L&YR amalgamated with the London and North Western Railway on 1 January 1922 and in turn was grouped into the London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS) in 1923. Nationalisation followed in 1948. When Sectorisation was introduced in the 1980s, the station was served by Regional Railways until the privatisation of British Rail. Like neighbouring Bescar Lane, the station here formerly had its level crossing manually operated from a nearby signal box and both platforms on the same side of the crossing. The present staggered arrangement was introduced when the box was abolished and automatic half barriers installed in the early 1990s.

Facilities
The station is unstaffed and has a ticket machine, tickets can be purchased on the train or prior to travel. Timetable posters and a telephone are provided to give train running information. Step-free access is available to both platforms.

Services
Trains run to Southport and Manchester Victoria via Wigan Wallgate every two hours (with some peak extras). Most eastbound trains continue to Stalybridge.

The last service to Southport is at 21:24 hours with the last service towards Wigan Wallgate and Manchester stations being at 22:32. There is no Sunday service, though a normal service operates on most bank holidays.

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Terengganu State Anthem

"(God) Save The Sultan" (Selamat Sultan, Jawi:, ) is the official state anthem of Terengganu, Malaysia. It was composed by Mohamad Hashim bin Abu Bakar in 1927, an Assistant Teacher at the Malay Primary School at Paya Bunga. He also wrote the lyrics.

History
In 1927, Sultan Sulaiman Badrul Alam Shah instructed Mohamad Hashim bin Abu Bakar to compose a tune, which was to be played on the occasion of His Highness's birthday. Abu Bakar was then the leader of a Boy Scout band in Kuala Terengganu and later Bandmaster of the Terengganu Police Band. The music which he composed with accompanying words were submitted to the late Dato Sri Andika Di Raja, who was Aide-de-Camp to the Sultan and also a member of the Council of Ministers, and a few days later Abu Bakar was commanded to appear outside the Istana Kolam (Royal Palace), and he sang the anthem to the accompaniment of the Band of the Sultan Sulaiman Boy Scouts Troop in His Highness's presence. Not long afterwards Abu Bakar trained a group of school children from Paya Bunga to sing the anthem and after he sang it a second time the Sultan accepted the music and words as the Terengganu State Anthem and commanded that Abu Bakar should be rewarded.

Japanese Occupation
A slight amendment was made to the fourth and sixth lines during the Japanese occupation but the music and the rest of the words remained as they were originally composed.

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Shore Line Railway (Connecticut)

The Shore Line Railway was a part of the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad system, running east from New Haven, Connecticut, to New London along the north shore of Long Island Sound. A segment is currently used for commuter service on ConnDOT's Shore Line East and regional/express service on Amtrak's high-speed Northeast Corridor.

History
The New Haven and New London Railroad was chartered May 1848 to build a line from New Haven, the east end of the New York and New Haven Railroad, east to New London on the Thames River and the south end of the New London, Willimantic and Palmer Railroad. Construction began in 1850 and the line opened from New Haven to the Connecticut River in Old Saybrook on July 1, 1852. Later that month the rest of the line opened, from the other side of the river in Old Lyme east to New London; a train ferry took trains across the river.

The New London and Stonington Railroad was chartered May 1852 to continue east from New London to Stonington, the west end of the existing New York, Providence and Boston Railroad. On March 6, 1857 the New Haven and New London merged with the New London and Stonington to form the New Haven, New London and Stonington Railroad. The line west from Stonington opened December 30, 1858, ending at Groton, with another car ferry across the Thames River to New London. This completed the "Shore Line" route between New York City and Boston; through passenger service began December 12, 1859, with night trains first running August 19, 1861 and sleeping cars November 11.

On November 1, 1859 the New York, Providence and Boston Railroad leased the NHNL&S, giving it a line from Providence, Rhode Island, to New Haven. In 1864 the NYP&B bought the part east of New London, and the rest was reorganized as the Shore Line Railway. The New York and New Haven Railroad (which became part of the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad in 1872) leased it on November 1, 1870. (The NYNH&H acquired the NYP&B in 1892.) Soon after, a bridge was built over the Connecticut River, and in 1889 a bridge opened over the Thames River, directly connecting the end in New London with the NYP&B in Groton.

In the early 1890s the line was double-tracked, and some areas had new straighter alignments built. Most prominent was in eastern New Haven and East Haven, where the old alignment took it across many streets at-grade. The new line ran further east, requiring a tunnel to pass under the hills to merge with the NYNH&H main line at Air Line Junction, also the junction with the Boston and New York Air-Line Railroad. Other realignments include a section in Branford, where the old alignment is still partially in use to access the Branford Steam Railroad, as well as smaller sections in Old Lyme and just east of Rocky Neck State Park in Niantic.

The Shore Line Railway was merged into the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad on March 17, 1897, becoming its Shore Line Division. In 1969 the New Haven merged into Penn Central, and then at the latest the Shore Line was extended along the whole New York City-Boston route. In 1976, Penn Central merged into Conrail, and Amtrak bought much of the Shore Line, now known as the Northeast Corridor, including the former Shore Line Railway. Shore Line East now provides commuter rail service between New Haven and New London, connecting at New Haven to Metro-North's New Haven Line for continuing service to New York City.

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Fos Williams

Foster Neil "Fos" Williams (21 February 1922 – 1 September 2001) was a leading Australian rules footballer who played for and coached the Port Adelaide and West Adelaide Football Clubs and coached South Adelaide in the South Australian National Football League (SANFL) in a career spanning 1946–1978. He also played 34 interstate games for South Australia, captaining the team from 1954 to 1958 and he coached the team in 45 games from 1955 to 1969.

Early life
Born in the town of Quorn, located in the Flinders Ranges and some 39 km north-east of Port Augusta, the son of Melville George Williams and Emma Otellia Williams (née McMillan).

The only football Williams played prior to World War II was in Quorn. He played for the Quorn Albions and also was a start player for Quorn High School.

Army and Navy during World War II (1942–1946)
Williams enlisted in the Australian Army on 5 March 1942, serving as a signalman.

On 32 March 1943 Williams transferred to the Royal Australian Navy where he served as a telegrapher on the corvette HMAS Kiama.

HMAS Kiama's initial duty was to escort convoys along the New Guinea coastline. In June 1944 she was given a reassignment to perform anti-submarine patrols in the Solomon Sea. In September Kiama was used to transport soldiers between New Guinea and New Britain. On conclusion, she resumed her convoy escort role until the end of 1944, when she departed for Sydney. In September 1944 Commandos from 'C' Troop and a small detachment from 'B' Troop, the 2/8th Commando Squadron were landed from HMAS Kiama on a reconnaissance operation at Jacquinot Bay on the island of New Britain to collect intelligence in preparation for an assault by the 5th Division. On 25 December the crew was recalled from leave to go to the assistance of the liberty ship SS Robert J. Walker, which had been torpedoed by German submarine GERMAN SUBMARINE U-862. Kiama, along with HMAS Quickmatch (G92), HMAS Yandra, and USS PC597 found the 67 survivors of the attack at but failed to locate U-862. Kiama was assigned to anti-submarine patrols near Sydney for the final days of 1945 before a month-long refit in Adelaide starting on 3 January 1945. After the refit Kiama was assigned to Fremantle for two months of anti-submarine warfare exercises with the United States Navy, before returning to New Guinea on 7 May 1945. In May and June, the corvette performed several coastal bombardments in the Bougainville area. In July, Kiama transported Prince Henry, Duke of Gloucester from New Guinea to the Solomon Islands, then spent the rest of the month moving troops and military cargo between these two locations. From 5 to 24 August, the corvette was based in Brisbane, before returning to New Guinea waters. Kiama spent the rest of 1945 as a troop and supply transport, minesweeper, and general duties vessel. When the war ended, Kiama took part in the Japanese surrender at Rabaul. In November, Kiama was assigned to escort demilitarized Japanese cruiser JAPANESE CRUISER Kashima as the cruiser embarked Japanese soldiers in New Guinea for repatriation.

Fos Williams was discharged from service on HMAS Kiama on 6 June 1946, nine months after the conclusion of World War II.

West Adelaide (1946–1949)
Williams had a late start to football due to World War II, returning to Adelaide to start his career as a league footballer in July 1946 at the age of 24. Williams initially wanted to play with Port Adelaide where his brother Frank had been playing. However, because he was living in the Hilton district within the West Adelaide zone, he was required by the SANFL to play for the latter club. Subsequently, Williams became the 609th player selected to play for club in the SANFL making his league debut on 20 July 1946.

Williams played as a rover in West Adelaide's victorious 1947 Grand Final against Norwood at the Adelaide Oval.

West Adelaide looked likely to repeat their success of the previous season but would fall four points short to eventual premiers Norwood in the year's preliminary final.

Williams first gained state selection for South Australia while with West Adelaide and also kicked 112 goals for the club until the end of 1949. At the end of 1949 Fos Williams was approached by representatives of clubs from Western Australia and Victoria, particularly Geelong and Subiaco, in attempts to lure him away from West Adelaide.

Port Adelaide player coach (1950–1958)
Despite Williams having lucrative offers from clubs interstate, Port Adelaide's first preference to replace Jack McCarthy as head coach was to appoint South Adelaide's Jim Deane. However, despite Jim Deane being Port Adelaide's first preference for head coach, South Adelaide vehemently refused to release him from his contract. Subsequently, on 22 January 1950 Fos Williams was released in good faith by West Adelaide so he could become the captain-coach of Port Adelaide.

In his first year at Port, he won the club's best and fairest award and led the team to a preliminary final, where they were however well beaten by Glenelg.

In 1951, he won his second SANFL premiership as a player and the first of a then record nine as a coach when he led Port Adelaide to an eleven-point win over North Adelaide in the Grand Final after losing only one game on a Thebarton Oval mudheap all season. Under the coaching of Williams from 1950 until 1958, Port returned to a position of power in the league and along with the 1951 win they won five consecutive from 1954 to 1958 and finished second to West Torrens in 1953.

After 1950, Port Adelaide only missed the Grand Final under Fos Williams guidance when they lost the preliminary to Norwood by eleven points in 1952.

In 1953, Fos Williams returned Port Adelaide to the Grand Final, a stage where the club would remain for seven consecutive seasons. During the 1953 SANFL Grand Final Port Adelaide would fall to West Torrens by 7 points. In 1954 Fos Williams led Port Adelaide to its second premiership under his guidance, defeating his old club West Adelaide by 3 points in the 1954 SANFL Grand Final.

In 1955, Port Adelaide defeated Norwood in the 1955 SANFL Grand Final by 63 points.

In 1956, Fos Williams again defeating his old club West Adelaide, this time by 16 points in the 1956 SANFL Grand Final.

In 1957, Port Adelaide defeated Norwood for the second time in three years for the premiership.

For the third time in five years, and what would be his last before retiring as a player and stepping away from football for 1959, Fos Williams guided Port Adelaide to a Grand Final victory over his old side West Adelaide by 2 points.

After leaving Alberton at the end of 1958, Williams' influence at Port Adelaide was still evident in his three-year absence with the team's style of play changing little under new coach (and Williams' old teammate) Geof Motley. Motley took over as captain-coach and Port would win a sixth successive flag in 1959 and finish third in both 1960 and 1961 before Williams returned in 1962.

During his time as captain-coach of Port Adelaide, Fos Williams wrote the club creed.

Year away from Football (1959)
After 1958, citing exhaustion, Williams spent a year out of the game.

Coach of South Adelaide (1960)
After spending a year out of the game following his retirement as a player, Fos Williams looked to become reinvolved in league football.

Williams re-entry into league football as a non-playing coach began when he took over South Adelaide in 1960. Unfortunately for both South Adelaide and Williams he could do little with the underperforming Panthers and the club finished seventh with only three wins in his sole season in charge.

Return to Port Adelaide as coach (1962–1973)
Williams returned to Alberton in 1962 as non-playing coach taking over from Geof Motley, who stayed on as team captain. Williams once again led Port Adelaide to premierships in 1962. The Port Adelaide Football Club's creed was written and spoken for the first time in 1962 by Fos Williams.

Port Adelaide would win back-to-back premierships in 1963. This would mean that Port Adelaide had won 8 of the last 10 premierships and the SANFL would subsequently introduce the neighbouring Woodville Woodpeckers in an effort, at least partially, to weaken Port Adelaide's dominance. The most tangible impact of this change would be Malcolm Blight, a Port supporter in his youth, falling out of the Port Adelaide zone into Woodville's.

Port Adelaide made the 1964 SANFL Grand Final but lost to South Adelaide in what remains their most recent premiership.

Port Adelaide won the 1965 SANFL Grand Final defeating Sturt in front of 62,543 spectators which is still the record crowd for a sporting event at Adelaide Oval.

Sturt defeated Port Adelaide in the following three SANFL Grand Finals in 1966,1967,1968.

Port Adelaide missed the SANFL finals for the first and only time in 1969 with Fos Williams as coach.

Port Adelaide finished minor premiers in 1970 but lost the preliminary final to Glenelg by 18 points.

Port Adelaide would lose the 1971 SANFL Grand Final to that year's minor premiers North Adelaide.

In a repeat of the previous year's decider North Adelaide would beat Port in the 1972 SANFL Grand Final and would go on to beat Carlton for the 1972 Championship of Australia.

Fos Williams continued to coach Port Adelaide until the end of the 1973 season when they finished fifth. During his 21 seasons at the helm of the Port Adelaide, the club competed in twenty finals series (missing only in 1969 ), sixteen Grand Finals and had won nine premierships. At the time this was the record for coaching in the SANFL. John Cahill, protege and successor of Williams took over as Port Adelaide coach for 1974 and would go on to break Williams' record of 9 premierships as coach, when he won 10, all with Port Adelaide.

West Adelaide coach (1974–1978)
Williams returned to West Adelaide as coach in 1974 but the side finished with its third "wooden spoon" in a row. Williams recruited former Port Adelaide rover Trevor Grimwood in 1975 and the Bloods improved, making their first finals series since 1969 by finishing fifth in 1976 and improved again to reach the finals again in 1977, ultimately finishing third after losing to Glenelg in the Preliminary Final at Football Park. 1977 also saw Grimwood win the Magarey Medal. 1977 was the 23rd and last SANFL Finals series to feature Fos Williams as a coach.

After finishing with a 14–8 record in 1977, West Adelaide slumped in what was Fos Williams' last year as an SANFL league coach in 1978. The Bloods finished with only five wins and a draw and ninth place; however one of the wins was the only loss inflicted upon Sturt prior to the Grand Final. Following this disappointing result Williams retired from coaching.

Interstate Football
In early July, Fos Williams was named for the first time in the South Australian team for the upcoming 1947 Hobart Carnival at the expense of an injured Jack Oatey.

Williams was captain of the South Australian state from 1954 to 1958.

Williams won a Simpson Medal for best on ground in the 1955 WA v SA match played in Perth.

Williams was also the coach of the South Australian team from 1955 to 1958, from 1960 to 1966 and again in 1968 and 1969. During his time as state coach, Williams was instrumental in instilling the belief in his players that their usual tormentors, Victoria, were no better than they were and it all culminated in 1963 with a seven-point win over the Big V at the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG), their first win in Melbourne since 1926.

Fos Williams was named in the Sporting Life "Team of the Year" in both 1950 and 1951. On both occasions he was selected in the Forward pocket.

During his career as a player Fos Williams represented South Australia on 34 occasions in Interstate matches.

Football historian and Norwood supporter Bernard Whimpress believes the passion that Fos Williams had for interstate football added a lot to the rivalry.

Personal life and family
Fos Williams was the son of Melville George Williams and Emma Otellia Williams (née McMillan). He had three brothers who played league football being Frank, Glynn and Alec Williams. Frank played with Port Adelaide, Glynn played for West Adelaide and Sturt while Alec played predominantly for Sturt with a single season at South Fremantle in 1940.

Williams married Veronica Ganley on 26 January 1956 in Unley, South Australia. Their four children all had successful sports careers. Son Mark Williams played 380 games of league football for West Adelaide and Port Adelaide in the SANFL, and Collingwood and Brisbane in the VFL, and coached the Australian Football League's Port Adelaide Football Club for twelve years, including its first AFL premiership. Anthony Williams (Mark's twin, died 1988) also played for West Adelaide and Port Adelaide. Youngest son Stephen Williams played 268 games and coached eight seasons for Port Adelaide in the SANFL, winning nine premierships as player and coach. Daughter Jenny Williams represented Australia in several sports, but was best noted as a lacrosse player.

Williams died on 1 September 2001 aged 79. He was survived by his wife Von, sons Mark and Stephen and daughter Jenny.

Legacy
Football historian John Devaney wrote of Williams that "Perhaps more than any other single individual, Fos Williams was responsible for catapulting South Australian football out of its predominantly casual, laissez faire mentality into the same kind of professional, brutally expedient, 'win at all costs' mindset as prevailed across the border in Victoria."

Williams was made a Member of the Order of Australia on 26 January 1981 for his service to the sport of Australian football.

Williams has a number of honours in his name, such as the Fos Williams Medal, awarded to South Australia's best player in a State of Origin game, and grandstands at both Alberton Oval and Adelaide Oval named the "Fos Williams Stand".

Australian Football Hall of Fame legend Barrie Robran said of Fos Williams that "He is a truly great man. His legacy to Australian football will be both indelibly and deservedly imprinted in the annals of South Australian football".

Football historian and journalist Michelangelo Rucci in 1999 proclaimed that "When the century ends in 2000 and they assess all the men who have built the Port Adelaide Football Club into a power in South Australian football one man will stand above all – Foster Neil Williams".

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Talk:Old Frisian

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In the article is mentioned "After Fryslân (now the Dutch province Friesland) lost its independence and became part of the Dutch Republic, Old Frisian lost its status as official language. The period 1550 - 1800 is designated Middle Frisian, when the language was rarely recorded in writing."

I always thougt that the historic Frisia or Fryslân was a much larger area than the present day Friesland or Fryslân. This is only the area between roughly Groningen en the IJsselmeer, the former Zuiderzee. I thought the original area where Old frision was spoken was the entire region between Alkmaar and Hamburg. Does anybody know how this area is defined precisely? Migdejong 08:13, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * That's true. But the other parts of Frisia had lost their independence earlier (West Frisia to Holland, East Frisia to the Danish kings and German bishops). Frisia's incorporation into the Republic was the last chapter in a long history of decline. Anyway, Frisia's independence didn't mean much in the 15th and 16th century. Modern Frisia has little to do with the historical Frisia (as much as Brabant has to do with Lotharingen). It's just a territory that once was part of a larger country that has dissapeared. Chardon 09:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Short history of Frisia: First mention of Frisia is by the Romans. These Frisians disappeard in the 3th 4th century. The country was settled by Danes and Germans (same people who settled in England) who called themselves Frisians (probably intermarried the remaining original Frisians). They had kings that were qonquered by the Franks. After th Frankish kingdom imploded the Frisia from Zeeland to Denmrk emerged. However this was a very weak state (lot's of independent cities, few nobles etcetc) and when other countries got stronger (Holland for example) Frisia was not strong enough to defend it self. The country disappeared. Modern province Frisia is just a name and has little to do with the country Frisia. Chardon 10:02, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Contradiction with Frisians.
This article says,

 * Their ancient homes were originally North Germany and Denmark. The  language of the earlier inhabitants of the region (the Frisians famously mentioned by Tacitus) is not attested.

But [[Frisians]] says,

 * Tacitus wrote a treatise about the Germanic peoples in 69, describing the habits of the Germanic people, as well as listing numerous tribes by name. [8] Of the many tribes he mentioned, the name 'Frisii' is the only one still in use to refer unequivocally to the same ethnic group. [9]

This should be sorted out. —Ruakh TALK 14:50, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Well it has long been sorted out. In 1906 Peter Boeles first postulated that there is no direct link between the people Tacitus wrote about and the Frissians from the early Middle Ages. I can't find anything in English but if you can read Dutch try http://www.nrc.nl/W2/Nieuws/2000/03/03/Vp/cs.html Chardon (talk) 18:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

If you read the original work on which the above-mentioned rather tendentious newspaper article is based, you may come to an altogether different conclusion: DE LATE PREHISTORIE EN PROTOHISTORIE VAN HOLOCEEN NOORD-NEDERLAND (in Dutch). There is no wholesale depopulation of Friesland in the 4-5th c., but the cultural continuity, as seen in pottery and such, is disputed. That's something entirely different.--Joostik (talk) 21:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Let me quote a paragraph from that original work

''In het laatste komt echter in de loop van de derde eeuw verandering: de Friese aardewerktraditie gaat geheel verloren en wordt vervangen door aardewerk van de Driesum-stijl. Een sterke achteruitgang in het aantal kustbewoners – volgens Taayke komt het tot een ‘homeopatische verdunning’ van de Friezen - loopt parallel met genoemde ontwikkeling.'' So even in the article you link to the conclusion is drawn that there is no direct link between the Frisians in Tacitus and the Frisians of King Redbad. Unless ofcourse you think there is something in homeopathy. Chardon (talk) 18:19, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

 * The Driessum pottery seems to be the last fase of development in style in the North-netherlands region. It disappears and at various terps it seems that scientists/archeologist can only conclude that Pieter Boeles was right. There is a gap between approx 325 and 425 on the Frissian terps. The Driessum pottery is re-appearing in Vlaanderen village Zele at the time it disappears in the North. Some claim this is evidence that at least some of the Frisians went to the south and became part of the Franks. All of this are rather new findings and I wish new investigations in Vlaanderen depots would occur to search for overlooked Driessum pottery as only Zele is a bit too little to be evidence.. Lz89z1 (talk) 16:23, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Poor Sentence
I've moved the following from the lead to here:

Whether the speakers of Frisian are the immediate descendants of the Frisians of Roman times or immigrants from North Germany and Denmark is a moot point.

This reads nothing like an encyclopedia article and more like a response to something someone else has said in conversation. If the point is moot, it shouldn't be mentioned. That said, if there's any verifiable information behind whether or not the speakers are Roman-age Frisians, immigrants or both, the sentence should be re-added. 60.241.179.28 (talk) 06:04, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

 * If you have a problem with style please edit the sentence. If you don't know anything about the subject please don't remove content. Always document your changes and don't ask others to do it for you. Chardon (talk) 19:52, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

There is absolutely no reason to doubt they are their descendants, and much to support they are. For those who read Dutch, see the talk page nl:wiki/Overleg:Frisii and Bazelmans. --Joostik (talk) 16:08, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Some Questions
According to the phonological development section, there should be an affricate /ts/, but it is not present on the consonant IPA table. I would just make an edit, but I have neither the source used nor a different source.

Next is the masculine a-stem plural ending "-ar". I've seen this elsewhere as well, but I am uncertain of its validity in Old Frisian. Modern descendants tend to use an "-s" ending, which would be weird if the ancestral form is "-ar". Is this what's recorded in the Old Frisian corpus? Cynemund (talk) 21:47, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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Do you want to was used as the ending theme for the anime Paradise Kiss —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.11.73.232 (talk) 01:40, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

It was released on iTunes last week... does that matter? - thealexfish 8/29/05

Gayness
Is it worth mentioning the (ridiculous) amount of speculation over "your famous friend well I blew him before you"?Vanityjunkie 13:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes I think so. I've heard this song floating around since it's debut, but only recently noticed the lyric you quote. What's behind it I wonder?

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Could someone reference the satan subliminal message thing? Apparently there actually is a video showing it, no one referenced in the article though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O7W1ygbYOY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.191.76 (talk) 17:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Girl
Is the girl on this cover the same as the one on You could have it so much better? 4.240.36.221 06:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

(sorry this is so late)I don't have a source but I'm fairly sure that they're two different people. B_K 19 March 2007

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Music Video Background
How come there doesn't seem to be ANYTHING on the actual story behind the music video? According to Spin magazine (September 2005) the video was inspired by an actual party the band attended at an art gallery in Glasgow.Metafold incarnadine 07:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

does anyone know about what that neon is in the shape of behind the bike swing in the video? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.215.219 (talk) 20:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

From memory a michellin man.(86.25.251.191 (talk) 13:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC))

Art Gallery Party.
I don't have a reference but I was under the impression the party refered to actually happened at the transmission art gallery in Trongate, Glasgow and was litterally 'the Transmission Party'. Does anyone know anything about that.(86.25.251.191 (talk) 13:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC))

PINK FLOYD WISH YOU WERE HERE reference in the video !
there are at least two scenes in the international version of the video where two guys are shaking hands while beeing under fire

This is not only remiscent but a 1:1 copy to pink floyd WISH YOU WERE HERE album cover

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.458 Winchester Magnum

The .458 Winchester Magnum is a belted, straight-taper cased, Big Five game rifle cartridge. It was introduced commercially in 1956 by Winchester and first chambered in the Winchester Model 70 African rifle. It was designed to compete against the .450 Nitro Express and the .470 Nitro Express cartridges used in big bore British double rifles. The .458 Winchester Magnum remains one of the most popular large game cartridges, and most major ammunition manufacturers offer a selection of .458 ammunition.

History
The .458 Winchester Magnum was designed for hunting dangerous game animals by emulating the performance of powerful English double rifle cartridges in a bolt-action rifle. The use of a bolt-action rifle offered hunters a cheaper alternative to the big-bore double rifle, and ammunition could be manufactured using available tooling. The .458 Winchester Magnum soon became a success as dangerous game hunters adopted the cartridge. Soon, game wardens, wildlife managers, and professional hunters switched to the .458 Winchester Magnum as their duty rifle. The cartridge would become the standard African dangerous game cartridge, in short order.

By 1970, issues with the cartridge began to surface. Winchester had been using compressed loads of ball powder as a propellant for .458 Winchester Magnum. Due to clumping of the powder charge and the erratic burn characteristics associated with such loads, performance of the cartridge came into question. While Winchester addressed this issue, the stigma remained, and the cartridge's performance on dangerous game was suspect. However, the .458 Winchester Magnum remained the standard of measure for dangerous game cartridges.

Recently, other .458 cartridges and various .416 cartridges have gained wider acceptance, but the .458 Win Mag remains one of the popular choices.

Specifications
The .458 Winchester Magnum was designed from the outset to duplicate the performance level of the .450 Nitro Express and the .470 Nitro Express, which had become the mainstay of African dangerous game hunters. The .450 Nitro Express had been rated to launch a 480 gr bullet at 2150 ft/s out of a 28 in barrel while the .470 Nitro Express would launch a 500 gr bullet at 2125 ft/s out of a 31 in barrel. The design criteria for the .458 Winchester Magnum called for it to launch a 510 gr bullet at 2150 ft/s out of a 26 in barrel.

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 * SAAMI compliant .458 Winchester Magnum cartridge schematic: All dimensions in inches [millimeters].

The .458 Winchester Magnum's case was based on a .375 H&H case shortened to 2.5 in and renecked (to reduce taper) to accept a .458 in bullet. The cartridge remains the largest of the standard length magnum cartridge family released by Winchester, which includes the somewhat obsolete .264 Winchester Magnum and the popular .338 Winchester Magnum.

SAAMI recommends a 6 groove with a twist ratio of 1:14 with a bore Ø of .450 in and a groove Ø of .458 in with each groove having an arc length of .150 in. While case volume varies between manufacturers, the typical Winchester case capacity is 95 grain of H2O (6.17 cm3). Maximum recommended pressure given by SAAMI is 53,000 c.u.p. while the CIP mandates a maximum pressure of 4300 bar.

Performance
The original specifications for the cartridge called for a 510 gr bullet to be fired at a velocity of 2150 ft/s through a 26 in barrel. Winchester achieved and surpassed this performance with their .458 Magnum cartridge.

Current performance standards for the cartridge allow it to launch a 500 gr bullet at a velocity of about 2150 ft/s through a 24 in barrel. The 500 gr bullet is seen as the standard weight for a 45 caliber (11.43 mm) rifle bullet. This bullet has a sectional density of .341, which provides the bullet a high penetrative value at a given velocity. Among standard sporting cartridge bullets, the 45 caliber (11.43 mm) 500 gr bullet has the highest sectional density. While bullets such as the 250 gr 30 caliber (7.62 mm) bullet with a sectional density of .374 and even a 600 gr 45 caliber (11.43 mm) with a sectional density of .409 exist these weights are not seen as a standard for those calibers. The .458 Winchester Magnum loaded with the 500 gr solid bullet provides adequate penetration for dangerous game up to and including elephant.

Due to the cartridge's relatively short case and powder column, longer bullets and those with a lower weight to length ratio—such as mono-metal bullets like the A-Square Monolithic Solid and the Barnes Banded Solids—may take up valuable powder space and lead to lower velocities and reduced performance. Hence, the reason for companies such as A-Square loading the .458 Winchester Magnum and even the .458 Lott with the 465 gr Monolithic Solid instead of the 500 gr, which is reserved for cartridges with large powder capacities such as the .450 Assegai and the .460 Weatherby Magnum. Bullets that tend to have a high weight to length ratios such as now discontinued 500 gr Speer African Grand Slam solid tend to work better in the .458 Winchester Magnum.

With modern powders the .458 Winchester Magnum is capable of launching a 300 gr bullet at 2600 ft/s, a 350 gr bullet at 2500 ft/s, a 400 gr bullet at 2400 ft/s, and the 450 gr bullet at 2300 ft/s. However, as no mainline ammunition manufacturer provides sub-500 gr .458 Winchester ammunition this is a choice for those who load their own ammunition or have access to custom-loaded ammunition.

Sporting usage
The .458 Winchester Magnum was designed for use against heavy thick skinned African game species such as elephant, rhinoceros and African Cape buffalo. The exceptional sectional density of the 500 gr bullet combined with a muzzle velocity of between 1950 - 2250 ft/s provides the cartridge adequate penetration on these dangerous game species. Rifles produced for this cartridge usually weighed under 11 lb. The combination of these factors helped the .458 Winchester Magnum become the most popular dangerous game cartridge on the African continent.

Unlike the more powerful .460 Weatherby Magnum the .458 Winchester Magnum is not considered overly powerful for the larger felids such as lion or leopard in Africa. However, bullet selection is important for these felids as they are not considered thick skinned species with the largest of the lions weighing under 500 lb. These species require bullets that open quickly upon impact, such as A-Square's Lion load.

While the .458 Winchester Magnum is considered over powered for North American game species, the cartridge has found use for the hunting of large bears such as the polar and Alaskan brown bear and American bison. A few guides in Alaska and Canada carry rifles chambered in this cartridge to provide a defense against these largest bear species for themselves and their clients. The number one cartridge of professional guides in Alaska for Great Bears is the .338 Winchester Magnum.

As almost all dangerous game hunting is conducted at short ranges with most shootings occurring well within a distance of 60 yd, the .458 was not designed as a long range hunting cartridge. Its effective hunting range against large dangerous game is considered less than 110 yd.

Ammunition
Since the .458 Winchester Magnum was intended as a dangerous game hunting cartridge, almost all ammunition manufactured for the cartridge is manufactured for these game species. Bullets used to load the .458 Winchester Magnum by ammunition manufacturers generally range between 450 - 510 gr.

Winchester currently offers ammunition in the traditional 510 gr Soft Point and the new 500 gr Nosler Partition and Nosler Solid. The Winchester 500 gr loading has a muzzle velocity of 2240 ft/s and muzzle energy of 5570 ftlbf. Winchester's 510 gr X4581 ammunition, which has a muzzle velocity of 2040 ft/s, is rated for CXP3 (large, non-dangerous) game species.

Hornady offers what they call a "heavy magnum" loading that features a 500 gr bullet with a velocity of approx 2260 ft/s. They use a special double-based cooler burning propellant ("powder") not available to the public for handloading. This innovative loading allows the .458 Winchester Magnum to attain 5670 ftlbf of muzzle energy. Federal Cartridge is now loading a 500 gr Barnes X bullet with a sectional density and ballistic coefficient that allows it to maintain approximately 2000 ftlbf of energy at 500 yd and a flatter trajectory than has ever before been attained with this cartridge and bullet weight. Numerous companies offer rifles in this caliber, including the Winchester Model 70, which was used by Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry.

The rounds for the .458 Win mag are more expensive than cartridges like the popular .30-06, making handloading a worthwhile effort. Though more expensive than deer hunting ammunition, the .458 Winchester Magnum is significantly less expensive than its competitors. For many decades the .458 has been the most popular rifle cartridge of professional hunters who pursue heavy dangerous game in Africa because of its performance, price, and availability. When British ammunition companies, including Kynoch, began closing in the 1960s, Winchester and the .458 Winchester Magnum filled the gap left behind.

The recoil of the factory loads is about 70 foot pounds. Handloads can make this cartridge more comfortable to shoot, for example using a 300 gr cast lead bullet at 1282 ft/s. This load mimics the .45/70 in both power and recoil.

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 * style="background: #eeeeee" | Federal P458T1 || TBBC 400 gr SP || 2250 ft/s || 4496 ftlbf || 212 yd/180 yd || Currently in production
 * style="background: #eeeeee" | Federal P458T2 || TBBC 500 gr SP || 2090 ft/s || 4849 ftlbf || 206 yd/175 yd || Currently in production
 * style="background: #eeeeee" | Federal P458T3 || TBSS 500 gr Solid || 1950 ft/s || 4221 ftlbf || 194 yd/165 yd || Currently in production
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 * style="background: #eeeeee" | Federal P458E || Barnes 500 gr BS || 2050 ft/s || 4665 ftlbf || 205 yd/174 yd || Currently in production
 * style="background: #eeeeee" | Federal P458SA || Swift 500 gr A Frame || 2090 ft/s || 4849 ftlbf || 207 yd/176 yd || Currently in production
 * style="background: #eeeeee" | Norma 20111102 || Barnes 500 gr BS || 2067 ft/s || 4745 ftlbf || 207 yd/176 yd || Currently in production
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Criticism
The .458 Winchester Magnum has had critics in its over 50 years of existence. By the late 1960s, professional hunters such as Jack Lott and others, suspected performance issues with .458 Winchester Magnum ammunition, particularly as produced by Winchester.

Winchester loaded the cartridges with a ball powder that required compression to fit enough in the .458 short case to provide required performance. In time, however, the compressed powder charge "caked," causing erratic burn and poor performance levels. By the 1970s, Winchester rectified this issue by manufacturing the cartridge with non-clumping propellant.

While the design specifications had called for a 510 gr bullet at 2150 ft/s through a 26 in barrel, hunters wanting a lighter, handier faster swinging rifle were gravitating towards rifles sporting shorter barrels. Barrel lengths 18 - 24 in became the norm with hardly any rifle manufacturer producing .458 rifles with barrels greater than 24 in. Shorter barrels, as expected, produced reduced performance levels due to lower attainable velocities. When fired from these shorter barrels, chronograph velocities fell from 2050 - 1850 ft/s, in line with expectations. However, the .458 Winchester Magnum cartridge was blamed for the loss of performance, and Winchester was accused of over-stating the cartridge's performance.

Due to the negative publicity, Winchester increased the performance of the .458 Winchester Magnum, which allowed the 500 gr bullet to achieve 2240 ft/s. While Winchester, like most .458 Winchester Magnum ammunition manufacturers (except Norma), continues to state velocities achieved from the 26 in test barrel, the velocity from a 24 in barrel is in keeping with the original expectations of the cartridge.

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Talk:NXP ColdFire

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"The Coldfire instruction set is "assembly source" compatible (by means of translation software available from the vendor) and not entirely object code compatible with the 68000."

This is very vague. Can someone tell the differences in instruction set? And what does "not entirely" mean?

 * Coldfire is basically a subset of the 68000, plus a couple features borrowed from the 68020. The coding of the instructions seems to be the same (at least the ones I checked), meaning you should be able to run Coldfire programs on a 68020. Mirror Vax 14:17, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

According to the 68080 article, the fastest 68060s were running at 75MHz, which contradicts this article. Anybody in the know who wants to fix this. ---84.150.98.18 15:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

The sentence "Newer models of ColdFire are compatible enough with 68k processors that it is now possible to create binary compatible Amiga clones." makes no sense. Such Amiga clones have (in theory) the same possibilities (or likeliness) as 68k Mac clones or whatever 68k Hardware clone you like. As long as no such clone exists (and there's no sign for anything else than vapourware) there is no reason to mention such thing in an encyclopedia. 212.144.6.150

I don't think the V5 core is delivered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.47.38.170 (talk) 22:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Coldfire V5 core is (so far) vaporware and doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article as it refers to speculative future events — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.202.116.51 (talk) 12:05, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

68060@75MHz
The fastest full 68060 was 66MHz. The 75MHz version was LC, think the MMU and/or FPU didn't work reliably at such high clocks. 68060s have been overclocked to 100MHz and more. The chip produced less heat than a Pentium and was often run fanless and even heatsinkless. Not sure what this means for speed comparisons, though. There was no 60MHz 68060, though. So I have editted the page. Might try to dig up a link/reference for the datasheet or something 122.107.110.187 (talk) 00:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

disambiguation page?
There are already two options (the CPU line and trilogy), but "Coldfire" is also an old name for (wet) gangrene. In historic contexts, this is the more common meaning — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.64.210 (talk) 15:22, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

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Judy Torres

Judith "Judy" Torres (born June 13, 1968 in The Bronx, New York City) is an American freestyle music artist and dance-pop singer.

Early life and career
Growing up in the Bronx, Torres was the oldest of five siblings. She attended St. Thomas Aquinas, and the all girls only Aquinas High School. Torres scored club hits with songs such as "Please Stay Tonight," "Come into My Arms," "Love Story," "I Love You, Will You Love Me," and her first single "No Reason to Cry." A love-themed freestyle written by Mickey Garcia, "No Reason to Cry" peaked at #30 on the Billboard Hot Dance Charts. Her debut album, Love Story, which was released in 1989 on Profile Records, is a freestyle collection, which included Ken Cedar-penned "Weakness of the Body", which was originally recorded by a teenage Mariah Carey. Her second album, My Soul, was released in 1992 and received good reviews by critics and fans alike. The album features such hits as attitudinal song "Every Little Lie," which tells a tale of an unfaithful man who, instead of ending the relationship amicably, decides to lead her on and she confronts him about it.

Torres previously had a regular Sunday night Freestyle show on New York's popular radio station WKTU 103.5 named "Freestyle Free for All." She is currently on-air at KTU from 3 pm to 8 pm on Sundays; she has been a performer and on-air personality at KTU for over 17 years.

In 2001, Torres scored a club hit with the sentimental love song "Back in Your Arms Again." It peaked at #7 on the Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart, her highest charting single yet. It was also featured in a remix version on the popular compilation series White Party. In 2004, she released her debut single on the label Robbins Entertainment that was titled "The Air I Breathe," which featured freestyle artist Collage. It is a Hi-NRG song produced by A-List producer Tony Moran. The single performed modestly on the charts, making the Top 40 of the Hot Dance Music/Club Play, peaking about No. 30. It was around this time at a live performance at the Manhattan venue The Star Lounge in Chelsea when New York City freestyle promoter and host Steve Sylvester introduced and officially dubbed Judy the ‘Queen Of Freestyle’, a moniker that has endured as her legacy in the freestyle genre.

In late 2005, Judy released the single "Faithfully." The song received airplay at dance stations. It is a cover of a 1983 hit by the band Journey. The single soon peaked at No. 1 as one of the requested songs on WKTU. Other Rhythmic/Dance format radio stations in the U.S. added the single from New York to their playlists. In August 2007, Torres returned to her Freestyle music roots with the single "I Don't." The song is a cover of Danielle Peck's Top 30 country hit written by Clay Mills/Peck/Burton Collins. In November 2008, Judy released "Hell, No," an anthem for abused women.

Judy Torres appears in the 2012 film Elliot Loves, in which she plays the role of Aunt Nani.

On March 18, 2018, Torres announced her one-woman off Broadway debut, No Reason To Cry, with performances scheduled for June 22 and 23 in New York City. Both initial performances sold out in under an hour resulting in a third show added. The third show scheduled for June 24, 2018 also sold out in under an hour. On April 20, 2018, four additional show dates were announced for July 4–7 in New York City.

Discography

 * Love Story – 1989, Profile/Arista/BMG Records
 * My Soul – 1992, Profile/Arista/BMG Records
 * Greatest Hits – 2002, Empire Musicwerks/Universal Records

Singles

 * "No Reason To Cry" (1996 remix #16) (#30 on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Songs)
 * "Come into My Arms" (#19 on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Songs)
 * "Love Story" (#47 on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Songs)
 * "Love You, Will You Love Me" (1989)
 * "Please Stay Tonight" (1989)
 * "Missing Part" (1990)
 * "I Love You For All Seasons"(1992)
 * "Every Little Lie" (1993)
 * "Holding On" (1996)
 * "Back in Your Arms Again" (1999)
 * "The Air I Breathe" (2004)
 * "Faithfully" (2005) (#6 Billboard Dance/Mix Show Airplay)
 * "I Don't" (2007)
 * "Hell No" (2008) (#43 Billboard Hot Dance Club Songs)
 * "Stay" (2010)
 * "Beautiful Life" (2012)

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Shore Line Railway

Shore Line Railway or Shore Line Railroad may refer to:

 * Shore Line East, a commuter rail service in Connecticut
 * Shore Line Railway (Connecticut)
 * Shore Line Railway (New Brunswick), Canada; see Prince of Wales, New Brunswick
 * Shore Line Electric Railway, a former trolley line in Connecticut

 * Shore Line Subdivision, a railroad line owned and operated by Grand Trunk Western Railroad
 * Detroit and Toledo Shore Line Railroad

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