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Tweedlee Dee

"Tweedlee Dee" (also "Tweedly Dee" or "Tweedle Dee") is a rhythm and blues novelty song with a Latin-influenced riff written by Winfield Scott for LaVern Baker and recorded by her at Atlantic Records' studio in New York City in 1954. It was her first hit, reaching number 4 on Billboard magazine's R&B chart and number 14 on its pop chart. It was Scott's first commercially successful song.

Background
The arrangement and vocal style of the song attempted to adapt a black vocal style to one that would satisfy the tastes of the white record-buying market, featuring a light tone and a frisky rhythm beat. The backing vocals are provided by Atlantic's in-house backing group at the time, The Cues (credited here as The Gliders), consisting here of first tenor Abel DeCosta, second tenor Ollie Jones (formerly of The Ravens), bass Edward Barnes, and baritone (and songwriter) Winfield Scott. Also on the session were tenor sax player Sam "The Man" Taylor and drummer Connie Kay.

Georgia Gibbs recording
Baker closely approached a pop style in her recording, but a cover of the song was quickly recorded by Georgia Gibbs for Mercury Records, a major label, which had better distribution than Atlantic, an independent label. The cover version, which had the same lyrics and closely imitated the style and arrangement of the original. became a gold record for Gibbs, ruining any chance of Baker's recording becoming a pop hit. It was common at that time for major record companies to release cover versions of R&B hits aimed at the wider white audience, a practice not forbidden by United States copyright law. According to Atlantic's engineer, Tom Dowd, Mercury hired the same arranger, the same musicians and tried to hire the same engineer. Baker attempted to get her congressman to introduce legislation to prevent the copying of arrangements but was unsuccessful.

Other cover versions
Numerous performances of the song have been recorded, including versions by:
 * An early version of the song was recorded by Chet Atkins in 1955.
 * Elvis Presley (a 1955 live performance first released commercially in the 1980s). Presley also recorded a number of Scott's compositions in the 1960s.
 * Teresa Brewer in 1955 on Coral Records
 * Vicki Young with Van Alexander's Orchestra for Capitol Records in 1955
 * Dorothy Collins in 1955 for Audivox
 * Connie Francis on Rock-n-Roll Million Sellers in 1959 for MGM
 * Ike & Tina Turner
 * Alma Cogan
 * Bill Haley & His Comets (recorded in 1979 for Haley's final album, Everyone Can Rock and Roll).
 * The Crests recorded a cover version for their 1960 album The Crests Sing All Biggies.
 * Little Jimmy Osmond

Popular culture
The song is heard in the films La Bamba, Uncle Buck, and The Departed.

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Mohammad-Reza Mahdavi Kani

Ayatollah Mohammad Reza Mahdavi Kani (, 6 August 1931 – 21 October 2014) was an Iranian Shia cleric, writer and conservative and principlist politician who was Prime Minister of Iran from 2 September until 29 October 1981. Before that, he was Minister of Interior in the cabinets of Mohammad-Ali Rajai and Mohammad-Javad Bahonar. He was the leader of Combatant Clergy Association and Chairman of the Assembly of Experts and also founder and president of Imam Sadiq University.

Early life
Mahdavi Kani was born on 6 August 1931 in the village of Kan, near Tehran. His father was an Ayatollah and taught in the Mofid School. After he finished basic education in Kan, he studied at Borhan High School in Tehran. He left for Qom in 1947 to study at a religious seminary. His teachers included Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, Nematollah Salehi Najafabadi, Grand Ayatollah Seyyed Mohammad Reza Golpayegani, Grand Ayatollah Seyyed Hossein Boroujerdi and Allameh Sayyed Muhammad Husayn Tabatabaei.

He came back to Tehran in 1961 to teach religious sciences. In that time, most of clerics participated in protests against Shah Muhammad Reza Pahlavi. Mahdavi Kani joined these clerics and formed alliance with Ayatollah Khomeini. He also was imprisoned by Shah three times.

Career
After the demise of Ayatollah Boroujerdi, Mahdavi Kani went back to Tehran and continued his struggle against the Pahlavi regime, something which he had started since he was 18, during the time of Ayatollah Boroujerdi. He was considerably active and effective in his participation in the Islamic movement of Iran led by Khomeini. Before the Islamic Revolution, he was appointed by Khomeini to the Revolutionary Council and later took up various political and religious positions. He was the leader of the Combatant Clergy Association, which he cofounded in 1977. Mahdavi Kani refused to join Islamic Republican Party in 1979, because he believed clerics should remain non-partisan.

He was appointed chief of the Central Provisional Komiteh for the Islamic Revolution that was a body in charge of trials and executions of the civil and military officials of the Pahlavi era.

He served as the minister of interior in the cabinet of Mohammad-Ali Rajai to succeeding Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. He was reappointed as minister of interior in the cabinet of Mohammad-Javad Bahonar. He became the interim prime minister on 2 September 1981 and was in office until 29 October 1981. He was also chairman of provisional presidential council, after the assassination of president Mohammad Ali Rajai and prime minister Mohammad Javad Bahonar. He has also been a member of the Constitutional Amendment Council of Iran, appointed by Ayatollah Khomeini, the Supreme Leader of Iran, to review and amend the Constitution of Iran in 1989. He was also elected as member of the assembly in 2008 in a by-election from Tehran.

Mahdavi Kani is the founder and former head of Imam Sadiq University in Tehran, a university specializing in humanities.

He was elected as chairman of the Assembly of Experts on 8 March 2011 after Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani resigned from office. In March 2013, he was reelected to the post for further two years.

Illness and death
Mahdavi Kani was hospitalized for a stroke on Ruhollah Khomeini's death anniversary, which brought him to coma on 4 June 2014. He was in coma for more than five months and died on 21 October 2014 at the age of 83. Mahdavi Kani was survived by his three children, eight grandchildren and two great-grandchildren. Hours after Mahdavi Kani's death, his office announced that his state funeral will be held on 23 October and his body will be buried at Shah-Abdol-Azim shrine. Iranian President Hassan Rouhani also announced two days of mourning in his memorial.

Works
The following works of Mohammad-Reza Mahdavi Kani are published:
 * The Beginning Points in Practical Ethics
 * The Book of Beest goftar (20 Discourses)
 * Starting Points in Practical Logic
 * The Basics and Principles of Islamic Economy in Holy Koran
 * The Explanation of Iftitah Prayer

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Farmers' Party (Ireland)

The Farmers' Party or Farmers' Union was an agrarian political party in the Irish Free State between 1922 and 1932. It was concerned almost exclusively with the interests of the agricultural community, and never sought to widen its scope beyond the countryside.

History
The party won seven seats in Dáil Éireann at the 1922 general election, the first in the Free State, and increased that total to fifteen in the 1923 election. These seats were concentrated in richer rural areas, an indicator that the party's support base was farmers with large holdings of land rather than the more numerous and poorer small farmers. At the 1925 Seanad election, the party won three seats.

During the 1920s, the Farmers' Party supported the Cumann na nGaedheal government. Support was strongest among the deputies who supported free trade. Among these members were the party leadership, particularly leader Denis Gorey, who proposed a merger of the Farmers' Party with Cumann na nGaedheal. Supporters of protectionism favoured continuation as an independent party, more criticism of the government, and from 1926 co-operation with the Fianna Fáil party, founded in 1926. This division, between the more conservative free-trading large farmers and the more radical protectionist small farmers, harmed the party and eventually led to the partitioning of its votes between the two main parties. The pro-independence side won the tactical debate, and Gorey joined Cumann na nGaedheal before for the June 1927 general election.

The party lost nine of its fifteen TDs during 1927 to defections and two election defeats. It continued to support the Cumann na Gaedheal government throughout the late 1920s, most importantly in the vote of no confidence that preceded the September 1927 election. After that election, Farmers' Party leader Michael Heffernan was appointed as Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Posts and Telegraphs to ensure his party's support for the resulting minority government. Heffernan would himself join Cumann na nGaedheal before the subsequent election.

By the 1930s, the party had little representation and less hope for an independent future. The party's large farmer supporters had migrated to Cumann na nGaedheal, while it had never truly succeeded in becoming the dominant party among small farmers, whose affinity was with Fianna Fáil. After the 1932 general election, only a small core of intransigents unwilling to co-operate with either Cumann na nGaedheal or Fianna Fáil remained in Dáil Éireann. Later in 1932, the Farmers' Party disbanded and these three TDs joined the new National Centre Party, contesting the 1933 election under that banner.

In the late 1930s attempts were made to found a new farmers' party. A new party, the Irish Farmers' Federation, split over the issue of derating; many small farmers were opposed to such a measure, believing that the increase in indirect taxation which would be sure to result would harm their interests. These small farmers set up Clann na Talmhan, which was launched in 1938. It was much more radical and left-wing than the original Farmers' Party, and was supported mainly by small farmers.

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Deutzianthus

Deutzianthus is a genus of trees, from the family Euphorbiaceae. It was first described as a genus in 1924. They are found in Vietnam, southern China, and Sumatra.

 * Species
 * 1) Deutzianthus thyrsiflorus (Airy Shaw) G.L.Webster - Sumatra
 * 2) Deutzianthus tonkinensis Gagnep. - Yunnan, Guangxi, Vietnam

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Souleymane Mamam

Souleymane Mamam (born 20 June 1985) is a Togolese former professional footballer who played as an attacking midfielder or a winger. He played for Royal Antwerp, K.R.C. Mechelen, and Nejmeh SC. His brother Chérif Touré Mamam was also a footballer.

Club career
Born in Lomé, Togo, Mamam played for local clubs in Lomé before signing for English club Manchester United in 2003. However, work permit regulations meant that it was not possible for Mamam to play in the United Kingdom and he was sent on loan to play at Royal Antwerp until he was eligible for a Belgian passport. At the end of the 2006–07 season, after four seasons of playing on loan for Antwerp, Manchester United decided not to renew his contract.

Having become a free agent, Mamam then signed a new one-year permanent deal with Royal Antwerp in time for the start of the 2007–08 season. He went on trial at Motherwell – who declined to sign Mamam in favour of another defender – and Birmingham City, but again failed to secure a deal due to work permit problems. He also went on trial with Toronto FC in the MLS in January 2010, before joining Belgian Third Division A team K.R.C. Mechelen until the end of the 2009–10 season.

Mamam returned to Manchester United on trial in August 2011, and played in a friendly for the club's reserve team against Morecambe on 1 August; he was substituted in the 53rd minute for Jesse Lingard, who scored the team's second goal in a 2–0 win. He then scored after 11 minutes of the reserves' next game against Llanelli at Parc y Scarlets on 8 August, but was substituted in the 58th minute.

He played for Nejmeh SC, after having been released by K.R.C. Mechelen in July 2010.

International career
According to official FIFA records, on 6 May 2001, Mamam became the youngest player to ever play a World Cup qualifier when he played for the Togo national team against Zambia at the age of 13 years and 310 days. FIFA records give Mamam's date of birth as 30 June 1987; however, various websites, including the official website of Royal Antwerp, give 20 June 1985, which would mean he was in fact almost 16 when he played his first match for Togo and even older than American Samoan Ben Falaniko, who played his first international match aged 15 years and 217 days.

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Piawaning, Western Australia

The townsite of Piawaning is located in the northern agricultural region, 160 km north-east of Perth and 28 km north-east of New Norcia. At the, Piawaning had a population of 309.

A northward extension of the railway line from Toodyay to Bolgart was planned in 1913, and was to terminate near Piawaning Spring. When the exact route of the line was settled in 1919 the government decided to set aside land for a townsite at the terminus. Piawaning, the nearest Aboriginal name, was selected and the townsite was gazetted in 1920. Piawaning Spring has been shown on maps of the area since 1877 when recorded by a surveyor, but the meaning of the name is not known.

The surrounding areas produce wheat and other cereal crops. The town is a receival site for Cooperative Bulk Handling.

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West Kilbride

West Kilbride (Cille Bhrìghde an Iar) is a village and historic parish in North Ayrshire, Scotland, on the west coast by the Firth of Clyde, looking across the Firth of Clyde to Goat Fell and the Isle of Arran. West Kilbride and adjoining districts of Seamill and Portencross are generally considered to be a small town, having a combined population of 4,393 at the 2001 census.

Early history
A Neolithic cup and ring marked stone is located on Blackshaw Hill, near West Kilbride. This stone is unusual, in that it is carved with three spirals. Although the purpose of such stones is not known, it is considered that they may have had religious importance.

Traces of an Iron Age fortification were uncovered when the house named "The Fort" was constructed in Ardrossan Road, Seamill.

Celtic
West Kilbride is generally believed to be named after the ancient Celtic Saint Brigid of Kildare, often known as St Bride. The name suggests there was once a cell or kil to Brigid in the area, although local legend has her visit to establish her church around 500 AD (the landing point was supposedly in front of the now Seamill Hydro). The "West" prefix was added to distinguish between other places which commemorates the same Celtic saint, such as the new town East Kilbride in Lanarkshire which was named "East" to distinguish it from the older "West". There has been a hamlet in the area since 82 AD when the Roman general Agricola stationed 30,000 troops in the area of the village now known as Gateside. Roman roads can still be explored around the village to this day, and many Roman finds have been reported and lodged in Museums throughout Scotland. William Wallace's uncle Crauford had an estate at Corsbie in the North of the village, and this is still in use as a caravan park called Crosby, to this day (Wallace's mother's family). In later years Robert the Bruce gave a grant of the lands of the Barony of Kilbride to the Boyds of Kilmarnock. It was once home to various mills and other works, and in the 18th century West Kilbride was primarily a weaving village.

In 1826, the Hunterston Brooch, a highly important Celtic brooch of "pseudo-penannular" type was found by two men from West Kilbride who were digging drains at the foot of Goldenberry Hill, near Hunterston. Made about 700 AD, the Hunterston Brooch is cast in silver, gilt, and gold, silver and amber, and decorated with interlaced animal bodies in gold filigree. In its centre, a cross and a golden Glory represent the Risen Christ. The Hunterston Brooch is clearly object of very high status, indicating the power and great prestige of its owner. Nowadays, it is considered one of the most significant items of Celtic art, and is housed in the Royal Museum of Scotland, Edinburgh.

Medieval
Several buildings in the area date back to medieval times. Law Castle, situated at the foot of Law Hill, was built in the 15th century for King James III's sister Mary. The castle is a simple rectangular structure with a sloping roof and several large chimneys protruding at each side. In recent years, Law Castle has been substantially restored and refurbished and it now letted for functions and as a holiday home.

Portencross Castle, thought to date from the 14th century, is situated right next to the sea at Portencross harbour. It is L-shaped and four storeys high, with a barrel-vaulted ceiling. The castle was roofless for many years due to storm damage. A campaign to save Portencross Castle from private ownership received national publicity in July 2004 when it was featured on the BBC's Restoration television programme. The title for the castle and grounds was given to the group "Friends of Portencross Castle" on 22 December 2005.

Crosbie Castle (also known as Crosbie Towers) lies to the north east on the outskirts of West Kilbride. It was largely rebuilt from a tower demolished in the 17th century which was the home of Sir Ranald Craufurd (uncle of William Wallace) in the 13th century, and it is said that Wallace himself spent some time at Crosbie. Currently the castle lies at the centre of a caravan park also called Crosbie Towers. Having lain empty for a number of years due to internal fire damage, part of the building was demolished in early 2007 after heavy storms damaged the external walls of the castle. Although the building is a Category-B listed building, permission was not sought before demolition.

Early modern
The town became known as a weaving and agricultural town, one of many Ayrshire towns specialising in potatoes. Since the town became linked by rail to Glasgow in 1878, it began to attract more visitors, particularly to the Hydropathic spa at Seamill and its neighbouring sandy beach.

Governance
West Kilbride is governed by North Ayrshire Council as part of the unitary local authority of North Ayrshire and Arran based in Irvine, which controls such matters as education, environmental services and social housing. Police services are operated by Police Scotland. The Scottish Parliament is responsible for policy on devolved matters such as education, health and justice while reserved matters are dealt with by the Parliament of the United Kingdom.

West Kilbride forms part of the constituency of North Ayrshire and Arran, electing one Member of Parliament (MP) to the House of Commons of the United Kingdom. Katy Clark of the Labour Party was elected in 2005 and re-elected in 2010 with a 47.4% share of the vote.

For Scottish Parliament elections, West Kilbride forms part of the Cunninghame North constituency, which elected SNP candidate Kenny Gibson to Holyrood in 2007 with 30.7% of the vote. Gibson was re-elected in 2011 with 52.6% of the vote, a majority of 6,117.

West Kilbride is also represented by seven regional MSPs from the West of Scotland electoral region.

 * See also
 * North Ayrshire (UK Parliament constituency) (1868–1918)
 * Bute and Northern Ayrshire (UK Parliament constituency) (1918–1983)
 * Cunninghame North (UK Parliament constituency) (1983–2005)

Geography
West Kilbride is situated on the west coast of Scotland, approximately 40 mi southwest of Glasgow, about 8 mi south of Largs and about 5 mi north of the "Three Towns" conurbation of Ardrossan, Saltcoats and Stevenston. The built-up area extends from Seamill on the coast of the Firth of Clyde to the principal part of the town, which, raised up and about 1 mi from the coast, lies between Law Hill (168 m) and Tarbert Hill (138 m). It is overlooked by Cauldron Hill (329 m), whose name is largely reputed to be from the Welsh "Cadron" ref. Geoffrey of Monmouth. It looks across the Firth of Clyde to the mountains of the Isle of Arran to the west. The seafront at Seamill features a long sandy beach, as well as rocky outcrops including the small harbour at Portencross. The neighbouring agricultural land supports cereals, potatoes, and livestock, particularly sheep.

Demography
At the 2001 census, the population of West Kilbride was 4,393. Approximately 85% were born in Scotland, and 10.6% were born in England. Compared to the population of Scotland as a whole, the number of children aged 5–15 is above average, as is the proportion of adults age 45+. 2.2% of the community were born outside Europe.

77% of residents own their home, compared to 62.6% in the population as a whole; 34.3 live in detached houses compared to 20.4 in all of Scotland, and the proportion of semi-detached dwellings is also above average.

Work and employment
The local area is predominantly rural, but agriculture accounts for only 1.4% of local employment. Managers and professional occupations make up 33.7% of the employed population, compared to the average of 23.8% for the whole of Scotland.

The main industries of employment at the 2001 census were:

Farming and local industry
The area is noted for its Ayrshire potatoes. These grow well locally, thanks to the use as fertiliser of the abundant supply of seaweed conveniently deposited on the nearby shore by winter storms. For this reason West Kilbride was sometimes referred to as the "Tattie Toon". Other crops grown include sweetcorn (for cattle food), barley, root vegetables and summer berries, especially strawberries. Cattle and sheep are also farmed locally.

Industries close to the village include the Hunterston B nuclear power station and the nearby Hunterston Terminal, owned by Clydeport.

A 24 MW wind farm, owned and operated by Airtricity, is located on Busbie Muir (about 3 km east of Tarbert Hill), and has been operational since February 2004. Its capacity will increase to 30 MW when three additional wind turbines become operational, scheduled for Autumn 2007.

Crafts
Through the endeavours of the local initiative group, West Kilbride is now achieving fame as the "Craft Town Scotland". The village boasts a number of craft shops and studios. The Barony Craft Centre provides a convenient way for craftspeople to sell their art and craftwork, in return for a share of the profits.

In September 2006, West Kilbride Craft Town won the Department of Trade and Industry's "Enterprising Britain 2006" competition. Presenting the award, Alistair Darling MP praised the resourcefulness and dedication of the West Kilbride community.

In January 2012 the Craft Town Scotland project achieved another accolade by winning the Creative Scotland £100k "Creative Places" award. The £1.7m Barony Craft Centre was formally opened to the public on 1 May 2012. This is now the centrepiece of this extensive community initiative. The West Kilbride Community Initiative is currently considering how to further strengthen the project, and this may be to consider the renovation of Kirtonhall (see below).

Yuletide Night
Held on the first Friday of December every year, this is a Christmas event where shops open late as a procession of children and adults follow Santa to the village hall. Music, stalls and children's fairground rides are set up on Main Street and adjoining Glen Road, which are closed to traffic for the evening.

Scarecrow Festival
West Kilbride is the first town in Scotland to organise an annual "Scarecrow Festival". The purpose of the Scarecrow Festival is to foster community spirit and civic pride within West Kilbride and its surrounding area. It celebrates West Kilbride's origins as an agricultural community, while looking to the future through the "Craft Town Scotland" initiative.

Sport
West Kilbride Golf Club, a championship links course, is situated at Fullerton Drive, Seamill. The original designer of the course was Old Tom Morris. The club hosted the Millennium British Ladies' Championship, and hosts the Scottish Boys' Championship once every three years.

West Kilbride Bowling Club, located on Weston Terrace, has two bowling greens.

West Kilbride Amateur Football Club were formed in 1947 and compete in the Ayrshire Amateur Football League. Team colours are amber and black and home matches are currently played at Kirktonhall Glen.

West Kilbride Tennis Club was formed in 2016 following completion of the refurbishment of the Tennis Courts in Kirktonhall Glen.

Landmarks
St. Andrew's church, formerly known as St. Brides, belongs to the Church of Scotland. It has a large rose stained glass window and a tall, gothic bell tower.

Overton Church, also belonging to the Church of Scotland, is located at the top of Ritchie Street. It is a red sandstone building with a working bell tower. Overton Church website

St. Bride's is a small Roman Catholic chapel, on the north side of Hunterston Road, with a large garden behind it.

The Barony (or Barony Church), a large 19th-century grey sandstone building, is situated just across the main street from St. Andrew's. This building no longer functions as a church; however, it remains in public hands, as the new £1.7m Craft Exhibition Centre operated by Craft Town Scotland (a project of the West Kilbride Community Initiative Limited).

One of the oldest houses in West Kilbride is Kirktonhall, which originally dates back to 1660, although the house was partially rebuilt and extended in 1791 and 1868. The house was birthplace to mathematician Robert Simson, born 14 October 1687. A large monument to Simson stands in West Kilbride's cemetery. Kirktonhall was formally used as administrative offices by North Ayrshire Council but now remains boarded up.

The West Kilbride Institute and Public Hall, opened in 1900, has been home to the West Kilbride Horticultural Society's flower shows from the same year. The building currently has a number of other uses, including a permanent local history museum, located on the first floor of the hall. The local library was housed here until 1996 when a dedicated home was built (see below). Since the late 1990s the Hall has been run by a dedicated Management Group as part of the highly successful West Kilbride Community Initiative. It is hoped that during 2012 with the full support of the Initiative and local Council the Hall will proceed to separate charitable status as a SCIO.

The War Memorial, originally built in 1921, did not list the names of the dead. This deficiency was remedied on 3 June 2001 (the Sunday nearest D-Day), when the memorial was re-dedicated with four new granite stones listing the names.

Kirktonhall Glen is a woodland walkway leading from West Kilbride to Seamill, gifted to West Kilbride in 1924 by Robert Barr.

Education
West Kilbride Primary School serves West Kilbride, Seamill and Portencross. Opened in 1983, it replaced the previous Victorian-era school which had burned down in 1980 on the same site. The original school could support up to 250 pupils. The newer school has exactly 465 pupils

The community centre in Corse Street houses many local groups and organisations including bridge, photo, snooker and music clubs, the local cub scouts, computer classes, yoga classes, and the North Ayrshire Music School. This building was originally the Paisley Convalescent Home, gifted by James Arthur of Carlung. Opened in the 19th century, it much later became a community centre and now

The town's library, opened in 1996, was purpose-built to replace the library originally located in the village hall and is located at the fork of Main Street and Halfway Street. The library is run by North Ayrshire Council.

Rail
West Kilbride railway station lies on the Ayrshire Coast Line between Largs and Glasgow Central. The journey to Glasgow takes around 50 minutes. The station is unmanned, with only one passenger track.

Bus
A bus service connects West Kilbride northwards to Greenock and south to Ayr. The service is number 585, and is operated by the Stagecoach Group. Buses run approximately half-hourly; there is no bus station but there are several roadside bus stops throughout the town.

Road
The main A78 road links West Kilbride to as far as Greenock to the north, and Prestwick to the South. The B781 road links West Kilbride to Dalry (and beyond to Glasgow via the A737) in the east. There are half-hourly buses northwards to Largs and Greenock, and southwards to Ardrossan, Saltcoats, Stevenston, Irvine and Ayr. There is also a commuter bus service to Glasgow, the journey taking around 1 hour 35 minutes.

Notable residents

Notable residents of West Kilbride have included:
 * Violinist Nicola Benedetti, who was born in West Kilbride, won the title of BBC Young Musician of the Year in 2004, and has played at numerous concerts around the world.
 * Nobel Peace Prize laureate John Boyd Orr, who spent most of his childhood in the village
 * Andy Donaldson, open water swimmer
 * Loretta Doyle - Commonwealth Games gold medallist Judo - founder of The Loretta Doyle Foundation
 * Lt Gen Sir Aylmer Hunter-Weston, World War I military leader, and MP
 * Former Scotland international rugby player Brian Gossman
 * Concert pianist and music scholar Roy Howat
 * Inspector and superintendent of telegraphs James Kennedy Logan
 * Mathematician Robert Simson
 * Scottish artist Alasdair Grant Taylor

In the news and popular culture

 * West Kilbride is one of the UK's leading UFO hotspots, according to a 2004 Ministry of Defence report.
 * Scenes in the BBC's Para Handy television series were filmed at sea off Portencross.
 * An episode of STV's Taggart series was partly filmed in West Kilbride's Main Street.
 * An episode of BBC Scotland's The Beechgrove Garden was broadcast from West Kilbride, featuring the work of local amateur gardeners and the recent enhancements to Kirktonhall Glen.
 * On 4 June 2007, West Kilbride featured in BBC 2's Springwatch programme. Local vet Charlie Garrett showed how Corsehill Quarry is being turned into a wildlife conservation area.
 * The opening sequence of the first episode of Billy Connolly's World Tour of Scotland, first broadcast on BBC television in 1994, features Connolly on a Caledonian MacBrayne ferry to Brodick and includes shots from the sea of West Kilbride, Seamill, and the surrounding area. Connolly comments, "This is the Scotland that everybody sings about, you know, this is the Kyles of Bute, and the Isle of Arran, the Little Cumbrae and Great Cumbrae and all these places, and if the truth be known, this is the reason I'm doing this tour, this is the bit I really like, you know, going to the Isle of Arran."

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Theodore Wolfner

Theodore Wolfner (18 June 1864 Újpest – 18 May 1929, Budapest) was a Hungarian deputy. He was educated at the gymnasium and at the school of technology in Budapest. After spending some time in his father's tannery in order to acquire a practical knowledge of the manufacture of leather, he undertook an extensive tour, visiting Germany, Egypt, Palestine, and Turkey.

Wolfner was an alderman of Újpest, a member of the county council of Pest, president of the national association of leather manufacturers, director of the technological industrial museum, and a member of the chamber of commerce and industry in Budapest. From 1896 he represented Gödöllő in the Hungarian Parliament, a fact which is the more noteworthy because of the circumstance that this district was the favorite residence of Francis Joseph I, and was under the influence of court officials.

In 1904 Wolfner was the recipient of a rare honour, when the king appointed him a Captain of Hussars in the reserves and elevated him to the Hungarian nobility.

Baron Theodore Wolfner died on May 18, 1929, at the age of 65.

Wolfner married Maria Margit Gitta (1872-1940?); their children were Johann János Wolfner (1894-1944), Veronika Henrietta Dirsztay (b. 1896), Lilly Andrea Halmy (b. 1897), and András Pál Wolfner (1898-1945). The Wolfners were a Jewish family; Johann and András were both murdered in the Holocaust.

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Point plotting

Point plotting is an elementary mathematical skill required in analytic geometry. Invented by René Descartes and originally used to locate positions on military maps, this skill is now assumed of everyone who wants to locate grid 7A on any map.

Using point plotting, one associates an ordered pair of real numbers (x, y) with a point in the plane in a one-to-one manner. As a result, one obtains the 2-dimensional Cartesian coordinate system.

To be able to plot points, one needs to first decide on a point in plane which will be called the origin, and a couple of perpendicular lines, called the x and y axes, as well as a preferred direction on each of the lines. Usually one chooses the x axis pointing right and the y axis pointing up, and these will be named the positive directions. Also, one picks a segment in the plane which is declared to be of unit length. Using rotated versions of this segment, one can measure distances along the x and y axes.

Having the origin and the axes in place, given a pair (x, y) of real numbers, one considers the point on the x axis at distance |x| from the origin and along the positive direction if x≥0, and the other direction otherwise. In the same way one picks the point on the y axis corresponding to the number y. The line parallel to the y axis going through the first point and the line parallel to the x axis going through the second point will intersect at precisely one point, which will be called the point with coordinates (x, y).

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthelia

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The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:29, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Anthelia
Delete: This was apparently made by its owner, violating the ad policy in WP:NOT, and most of the hits I got on Google were for a hotel in Spain. Karmafist 13:47, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I apologize, I'd also like to add that this page violates WP:VANITY in my opinion as well. Thanks for reminding me. Karmafist 21:40, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

 * From WP:VANITY section 3 "Does lack of fame make a vanity article?"

 * "An article should not be dismissed as "vanity" simply because the subject is not famous. There is presently no consensus about what degree of recognition is required to justify a unique article being created in Wikipedia (although consensus exists regarding particular kinds of article, for instance see WP:MUSIC). Lack of fame is not the same as vanity.

 * "Furthermore, an article is not "vanity" simply because it was written by its subject. Articles about existing books, movies, games, and businesses are not "vanity" so long as the content is kept to salient material and not overtly promotional."

 * The rewrite of the article yesterday reduced it to salient and non-promotional material only. The inclusion of an External Link at the bottom is not promotion. --User:darcyj 05:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. Not-notable. --GraemeL (talk) 16:09, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Do not delete "While you are free to write about yourself or projects you have a strong personal involvement in, remember that the standards for encyclopedic articles apply to such pages just like any other. A very few somewhat famous Wikipedians have significantly contributed to encyclopedia articles about themselves and their accomplishments, and this has mostly been accepted after some debate. Creating overly abundant links and references to autobiographical articles is not acceptable." That's a quote from WP:NOT.  There is nothing against an owner writing an article about something.  The motion to delete is therefore invalid.  As for the "not notable" charge, according to WP:NOT there is no practical limit to number of topics we can cover.  There is nothing against articles being posted that are "not notable".  Now before you try to bite my head off about conflict of interest, I declare quite freely that I am a micronationalist, but I am not associated in any way with Anthelia.  The google reference is irrelevant, and it seems that there is NO AD POLICY in wikipedia. - Graius
 * Do not Delete Actually there is a no-ad policy as follows: "Advertising. Articles about companies and products are fine if they are written in an objective and unbiased style. Furthermore, all article topics must be third-party verifiable, so articles about very small "garage" companies are not likely to be acceptable. External links to commercial organizations are acceptable if they can serve to identify major corporations associated with a topic (see finishing school for an example). Please note Wikipedia does not endorse any businesses and it does not set up affiliate programs." However, as the 'Anthelia' mentioned is neither a company nor a product (unlike the unconnected hotel mentioned above), it cannot in any way violate the above policy, and therefore there are no grounds for this vote. In conclusion I recommend that this vote is removed immediately and that people should check their facts rather better in future. Iain - 13:48, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Founded" in March or something. Non-notable micronationcruft. Sdedeo 19:54, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Do not Delete. The above reason is spurious as many organisations, groups, entities etc, include foundation dates in their biographical information, and its inexactness (even though the actual data is readily available to quote from) may indicate that the nomination is less than serious and warrants discounting entirely. --Mercurivs 16:34, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete for the same reasons that I say delete to all the micronation stuff. Until I see the micronation listed on the CIA world factbook, it is hard for me to imagine that they are individually worthy of articles. You can always abbreviate the article and create a list of notable micronations.  This one doesn't even seem to have that. Mmmbeer 00:55, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete. While the writing style mimics a meaningful article's style, that does not make this page notable. The concept of micronationalism is covered at that topic's article, and this page does nothing to further that discussion. Friejose 12:58, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nominator.--nixie 07:06, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - advert - Tεx  τ  urε  18:25, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

DarcyJ's Edits
''Darcy J has voted multiple times, perhaps more considering the likelyhood that he is meatpuppeteering. So, for the sake of housekeeping, I'll paste the comments he made while voting down here.'' Karmafist 21:37, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I am not meatpuppeteering - trace the IPs. My "multiple votes" arise from my unfamiliarity with this procedure - I mistakenly assumed a prefix was necessary for every comment.  Multiple voting, in any case, is meaningless because this is not a democratic process as Karmafist well knows.

 * Further note: On reflection, there are comments I wish to withdraw, as shown by the strikeouts below and above.

 * Is this a personal agenda, Karmafist? You are pursuing it rather earnestly. Darcyj 07:04, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Darcy, I am pursuing this earnestly because I am a dedicated Wikipedian, and I intensely dislike the use of sockpuppets and meatpuppets. Many people and things far more notable than your hobby have been deleted on here, and this article basically seems to be little more a bio on your hobby. If there are independent legitimate media pieces on your hobby or reasons why your hobby is unique, I wouldn't have a problem with it. There currently is none, and I believe it is doubtful that there ever will be considering that there are many other pretend nations such as yours on the internet.

Also, the main reason why Wikipedia is not a Democracy(see WP:NOT) is because of the potential of meatpuppets and sockpuppets. I am not an admin, I cannot trace the IPs of the meatpuppets. However, when an anon IP or user account with single digit edits votes on a VfD, especially when it is the user account's first edit, it's usually considered highly likely that it is a sockpuppet/meatpuppet. Karmafist 03:28, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Your dedication as a Wikipedian is not in dispute. I intensely dislike your accusation that I am using puppets of any description, although I concede that I did post a message in a micronational forum to complain about the VFD.  Certainly, there are many other micronations on the internet, as well as a strong core of people such as myself who are interested in making the hobby more respectable.  There are a number of independent commentaries on micronationalism, although not on Anthelia specifically.  I put it to you that you know as much about micronationalism as I do about New Hampshire politics, but this is irrelevant to the issue of deletion from Wikipedia.  It is about time the admins made some sort of decision here.  Darcyj 06:03, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Do not Delete If you were to search Wikipedia all day, you would find an abundance of self-promotion articles. The official policy cannot be policed effectively and so why should this article be singled out?  In any case, the hobby of micronationalism is something worthy of reporting, so why should there not be detailed articles on subsets of that hobby?  Delete this article, and you must delete every other similar article and the Category.  I could modify the article, making it much shorter and confined to bare facts, if that would bring it into line with the policy. User:darcyj
 * The article has been completely rewritten. Names and claims have been removed.  I submit that the article now conforms to basic standards of factuality and neutrality. User:darcyj

 * Keep - Dear Darcyj, I am voting to KEEP this article because I believe that the term Anthelia is like the terms Kafirphobia and Kaafirphobia as they have notablity on Google Search. However, Darcyj, since I voting to KEEP your article, can you support me in the Kaafirphobia/kafirphobia sub-article in Kafir? Sadly, it got deleted by a bunch of Islamists who dislike the term kaafirphobia which means irrational hatred or fear towards non-Muslims by Muslims. Kaafirphobia is the opposite of Islamophobia. Garywbush 13:15, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment Alright, this is getting out of control. Gary, if you'd like to contact Darcyj about advocating towards your article, please do so on his homepage, this vfd is about "Anthelia", not "kaafirphobia". Darcy, this isn't anything personal towards you. There just isn't any indication that your micronation is any different than the thousands of other micronations out there, making it eligible for a list at best. If you want to make it notable, do something to make it unique from other micronations. A good rule of thumb I have when there's no guidelines for a certain subject is asking if I was a editor of a newspaper or director of a radio or news organization (i've been the first and second in the past), is if a general, random user of my medium would ask themselves "why the hell is this important or interesting?" Check out Hutt River Province, Sealand, or any of the other entries on the micronation article. They pass that test for most people. I think the main problem with your micronation is that it's in a vacuum, so it can't have any real relevance to anybody other than you. Get out there do something to make it stick out. I'll vote for keeping it then. Wikipedia's an encyclopedia, not a PR device. I hope this helped. Karmafist 14:41, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Karmafist, thankyou for anticipating my reaction to Garywbush. Without wanting to waste bytes on the matter, I would find it hard to "support" his request since I really know nothing about the issue.  Regarding Anthelia, its consideration has been upgraded to the Pages for Deletion page but there are no comments there yet and I'm just playing the waiting game now.  Cheers. Darcyj 15:30, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Meatpuppetry Alert

 * Mercurivs has two edits as of 21:40, 23 August 2005 (UTC), both on this vfd.
 * "Iain", aka 62.64.214.63, has one edit as of 21:40, 23 August 2005 (UTC), guess where it is.
 * This Meatpuppetry Alert is nonsense as I do not think there is meatpuppetry or socketpuppetry. Garywbush 13:15, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Talk:Police National Service Full-time Light Strike Force

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I wrote this article, based on my experience. I was in the pioneer batch of LSF. My info was correct up to 2003 only. So, readers are welcome to add, update or modify it if necessary.

-from kind singaporean, August 2005
 * Nonetheless, a big thank you for the information, which isnt exactly readily available just yet. I would hope you may come back and add more information if you are able! ;)--Huaiwei 16:38, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Wow, seems a good place to serve NS! Slightly confused with PTU and LSF; Let's say for the recent demonstration at CPF building, which unit was sent to quell the protesters? Any info or your best guess?

 * Well, most people seem to think SOC = PTU and nothing else anyway. As for that demonstration, I seriously think they are merely NPCOs. Nothing unusual about that at all, and the press keeps calling them "riot police" just because they wore those anti-riot equipment. Kaoz...--Huaiwei 09:12, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

From kind singaporean: Actually LSF is a little "brother" of Police Task Force (PTF), i.e smaller-version of PTF. I don't know whether PTF has been renamed (to PTU) since my departure but PTF was commonly known as "ang qia"(red vehicle in hokkien) many years ago. Compared with PTF, LSF was smaller say in terms of armament and manpower. I don't know how are things going on today but the vehicles LSF rode were small in the early years (that normal blue, ford vans we see on the roads nowadays). Each LSF squad WAS given 2 vans then, hell of stuffy that time because a lot things, weapons and riot gear. Just imagine 10 or more men squeezed into each van with all those arms and equipment, and even odor of sweat. The men were given 3-minute notice to move out in case there was an emergency.

As for recent demo at CPF, I have no clue whether any of SOC units was involved or not? The number of persons in this demo was small. However, I won't be surprised if SOC was there. If it was, then my likely guess is the LSF, though I don't rule out the PTF or even both. (Readers are reminded here that PTF is equipped to handle cases of armed and dangerous criminals or riots involve hundreds, not handle riots of a few people-it is too "big".).

The police tends to over-react sometimes but what it did at the CPF that day was right and proper...it was better be safe than letting an unapproved demo disturb public peace, and potentially snowballed out of control.-22 Aug 2005.

 * Ah...we would all be eternally grateful if you may add those information to the article(s), especially on the weapons, vehicles and organisation (provided they dont violate the ISA. :D) Cant be helped, as we simply dont have that much info from other sources. Btw, PTF has been renamed PTU since 2003. Managed to confirm this by refering to the SPF Annual Report 2004. ;)--Huaiwei 13:58, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

From Kind Singaporean:Hello Huaiwei, seems like you r having difficulties of updating this article. I noticed there has been hardly any significant changes or updates at all since I first wrote this article. Lack of information I presume? -18 November 2005
 * Yeah lack of information obviously. Isnt that what this organisation wants in the first place? :D--Huaiwei 15:03, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

From SG man - hi guys, I am new here, from KINS. commenting on the article. is it giving out too much info on our strentgh and number of men? Anyone can easily calculate and sizeup our response before creating a terror situation. Just my thoughts....Cheers.
 * Erm...does this article give you the strength and number of men in the unit today?--Huaiwei 15:03, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

From Kind Singaporean to SG man: I already stated earlier that the information I gave was true right up to 2003, thus this article is a piece of history: a recollection of things and experiences that are already passed.

There have been a lot of changes in the SPF in the 2 years since then, many of which I am not aware of. Guess LSF had experienced "a wind of change" by now, who knows?

Besides, during my years there, LSF regularly used the parade square in SOC for their drills and other training purposes (and I guess they still do today). All these could be witnessed by residents in nearby HDB blocks with their naked eyes. Thus, LSF activities and going-ons then were no secret. Any Tom, Dick and Harry from outside could take a peek on us.

In view of these, I strongly believe that publishing this article is appropriate. I know where's my OB markers are. I thank SG man for his concern. -14 January 2006

From Kind Singaporean

Hi, Huawei. Seems to me that this article have not had any changes since I wrote this 3 years ago.

Just to say that this article may be of little relevance today as LSF is no longer around in SOC. Perhaps, you may wish to review this article to see whether to remove it or incorporate it in other police articles. !-) -19 July 2008.

Dear readers, this article is no longer accurate as LSF has been disbanded and absorbed into other units. This must be revised. - Kind Singaporeaan - 4 Oct 2020


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Ludwig Wysber

Ludwig Wysber (Wysber Lajos; 1817, Pest - ?), a Jewish Hungarian journalist and author.

He was originally a street peddler in Pest, he obtained employment as a chorus singer in the German theater of that city, and afterward held minor positions on several local newspapers. At the outbreak of the March Movement in 1848, he obtained permission to publish Der Patriot, while Julian Chownitz (or Chowanetz), a Jew who had been active as a revolutionist, was given permission to publish Die Opposition. These two journals represented Kossuth's party, and acquired considerable influence. Between 1850 and 1870 Wysber appears to have been guilty of numerous peculations among the merchants and clergy of Hungary, extending his operations even to Vienna. He employed various aliases, as "Arthur von Alaven," "Jonas Földváry," and "Wysbersi"; and warrants were issued for his arrest.

He was the author of Lebensbilder aus Ungarn, mentioned in Von Helfert's Geschichte Oesterreichs vom Ausgange des Wiener October Aufstandes 1848 (Prague, 1876; Appendix, p. 135, note 311).

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Bolgart, Western Australia

Bolgart is a townsite north of Toodyay in Western Australia. It is in the Shire of Victoria Plains.

The town derives its name from a nearby spring. The spring was discovered and the name recorded by explorer George Fletcher Moore in 1836. The area was settled in the 1840s and one of the first settlers, J Scully, named his property Bolgart. The townsite was gazetted in 1909.

The name of the town is Aboriginal in origin and means place of water.

The town was struck by a magnitude 5.2 earthquake on 11 March 1952 followed by several aftershocks. The earthquake was felt as far away as Perth, where taller buildings were rocked.

The reserves Drummond Nature Reserve and Bewmalling Nature Reserve are west and south west of this locality. The main industry in town is wheat farming with the town being a Cooperative Bulk Handling receival site.

A railway line runs through Bolgart, which was the terminus of the Newcastle–Bolgart Railway before it was extended to Miling and became the Clackline–Miling railway.

The town also has a small agricultural museum housing a restored early twentieth century Marshall oil-fired tractor.

title: Bolgart, Western Australia


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Talk:West Kilbride

West Kilbride revamp
I have started some work on revamping the page at a sandbox on my user space. All experimental and work-in-progress at the moment and it will not effect the original article for the time being, but here's what I am in the process of doing:

 * Stripping the article down to its bare essentials and then building it up again
 * Removing some of the different headings and subheadings and attempting to make the article look more like, well, an article rather than a list.
 * Removing most photographs in anticipation of new ones (when I get around to taking some!)
 * Removing 'fluff' information: i.e. the fact that the town has some take-aways and the infamous hairdressers comment!
 * Dewikifing a lot of random words, and removing a lot of the unneeded boldness in places.
 * Writing a mostly new history section with information specific to West Kilbride itself rather than everywhere around the town/village.

I'm also attempting to reference everything where possible (without going overboard), and removing some of the "tour guide" stuff about picturesque walkways and the like. One problematic section which has appeared since the above discussion from May is the bit about the scarecrow festival. Aside from the fact that it should now all be past tense, there is far too much information there, the stuff about balloon races and prizegivings is something that should be in the Ardrossan & Saltcoats Herald's WK news section and not Wikipedia! A couple of lines about the fact that the scarecrow festival takes place and why should be more than enough in my opinion. A paragraph with a photograph would be nice, but it would have to be a more general history of the festival than a programme of events I would think.

Thoughts anyone? --Dreamer84 21:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, lots of thoughts. Haven't got time to go through them all in detail now, but here are a few: --NSH001 00:05, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * There are lots of spelling and grammar errors in your present version. No point in trying to list them all yet (sorry!)
 * The general idea is good. I like getting rid of the flowery, tourist-brochure language. There are too many headings and sub-headings in the current version, but I think you may be going too far in the other direction; for example, I much prefer the present version of the transport section. It is more useful, and reads better, if the different modes of transport are separated out.
 * Should be quite easy to deal with the refs for notable residents. Simson, Orr, Benedetti, Taylor all have their own articles where their connection with WK is documented (Simson is effectively documented by the monument). Gossman can be cited to the Golf Club book (which is how I found the correct spelling), but you can probably find something on the Scottish RFU site (I was unsuccessful when I first tried, as I was using the incorrect original spelling). Walker also has his own article, but I couldn't see any WK connection there. I grew up with Roy Howat (he was a couple of classes below me), his mother was friends with both my mother and step-mother, and my father had a near-concert quality grand piano he would let Roy use when he was in WK. I guess Howat and Walker would both qualify under "common knowledge" (no need to cite stuff that's common knowledge), though obviously it's preferable if we can find citations (but I have no knowledge of Walker; his TV show is not the sort of thing I watch). McCulloch gets lots of mention in the golf club book, and I'm sure she's on the Scottish Golf site (three-time champion, I think). Never heard of Al Lorraine. Helen Keller I would dearly love to see some evidence of her visit/stay. Avril says the local councillor, Elizabeth MacLardy, may have some photos of her at Sunnyside, a house in Meadowfoot Road. Whyte I know nothing of.
 * I recently acquired a copy of the reprint of the Rev John Lamb's book. There is more than enough there to write a good, well-sourced history section (also making use of online sources). On reading the book, it became clear to me that a geography section is necessary too. Incidentally, if you have, or know of, any free-copyright maps of WK that we could use, that would be very helpful.
 * The Lamb book also provides an excellent source to cite the Hunterston brooch, the cup-and ring stone and the Roman remains, and to place them in context.
 * I've been too busy on other articles to devote much time to WK recently. I'm about half-way through expanding John Boyd Orr at the moment, plus several other unfinished articles. Above all, I feel I a desperate burden of responsibility to do something about the insidious dishonesty pervading the Israel-Palestine articles on Wikipedia, but trying to do anything about it is an incredibly stressful experience. I suppose I come here and to the other articles I mentioned as a relief from the stress and horror I feel at the I-P articles (and the way good, honest editors are being bullied, harassed and intimidated), but I do feel very guilty at not really doing enough to ensure that WP presents an honest account of I-P. As far as I am concerned, the bullying and intimidation have worked, and the bullies know that it works, to my shame, and to the shame of Wikipedia. (Sorry about the mini-rant.)
 * The last para is just a long-winded way of saying I don't have the time available that I would like to devote to the WK article, but I will try and do what I can. If I'd had the Rev Lamb book 6 months ago, I'd probably have written quite a good history section by now, and re-organised the article accordingly.

 * Thanks for the thoughts NSH, will read them over properly in the morning. Only things I'll say just now is that the sandbox page was done quickly and is very rough which is why there are plenty of errors. Things that are missing from the article aren't necessary gone completely, just not in the current version. Transport section will have its sub headings reinstated too, but I did remove the 'Air' bit completely as since WK doesn't have an airport I don't see the need to be honest, maybe its just me though! --Dreamer84 00:56, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Would have to perhaps dispute the idea that we don't have to cite sources to something that is allegedly common knowledge. I certainly didn't know that Howat was from West Kilbride until I read it on this page. People visiting this page from all over the country and world may not even know who the man is so I don't think we should take for granted that anything on the page is common knowledge. I think the Keller 'fact' could come out until we get a source. Just because there's an alledged picture of her in the town doesn't mean she lived there! Walker I know stayed in the town, I ran into him at Seamill beach early one Sunday morning a few years back, but the chances of getting a source are unlikely. Certainly I doubt many members of the public outside the local area would know Roy Walker lived in West Kilbride, so again not exactly common knowledge!
 * Agree on the rest of your points though. --Dreamer84 18:58, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Archiving and Photos
Firstly I have archived all but the most recent discussion onto another page. Hope nobody minds, the page was a little long with all the lengthy discussion going on!

Secondly, and more importantly, I finally had the chance this evening to go out and take a few photos in the West Kilbride area. Unfortunately the time of day wasn't in my favour, and the sun's position over Arran prevented a lot of good shots from Law Hill. I did get a reasonable photo from Portencross though, which I have put on the article, replacing the Seamill beach photo. I've also replaced the Simson memorial geograph photo with a higher-res dedicated Wikipedia photo, and there's a couple of other photos that I've added to the sandbox version of the page I've been working on. That's all I managed to get for the moment, apart from photo of Portencross Castle which didn't turn out well, again due to the sun. --Dreamer84 00:15, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

WK
Dear Dreamer, Like NSH, I haven't time to write much just now because I am immersed in my own work (real life?) at present. However, I think that, overall, the article on WK reads pretty well. Take a look at the articles on other comparable towns and villages. No contest! NSH, in particular, has done much sterling work. Thank you, Neil! Of course, there are no grounds for complacency. We can always do better still!

I added a piece about the Scarecrow Festival because it is one of the ways in which West Kilbride is reinventing itself. Apparently, scarecrow festivals are quite common in England. But this is the first one in Scotland. It started in 2005 and has gradually gained momentum, becoming a popular annual event with a high profile locally. As you might guess, the appeal is primarily to children and young families. It's a well-supported local activity and I think it deserves a write-up here. (I shall update and prune what I have written asap.) WK's efforts in the "Scotland in Bloom" competition each year are another visible way in which the town fosters civic pride and community spirit.

Much more important, though, is the "Craft Town Scotland" initiative which has hardly been written about here. And generous sponsorship from the Moffat Trust is helping WK renovate the derelict shops and houses in Main Street, creating artists' workshops and studios. We need to say something about this also.

Regarding Notable Residents, Major Whyte (of "whiskyisms" fame) lived for many years in a house called Underhill on the outskirts of WK. Small in stature, he was nevertheless a high-profile "character" in the Scotch Whisky industry. I remember him well. He died about 20 years ago, I think. Mr Walker lived for a few years with someone in Seamill, very near the beach. He and his partner have now split up and he has moved away. I don't know the story of Keller's time in West Kilbride. (Was it days? Weeks?  Months?)  I want to find out, for the sake of this article - and I fully intend to do so. It's a fascinating story, I'm sure. Even if Keller's visit to WK was comparatively short, I still think we should include it here because she was a very extraordinary, world-famous person!

I don't know who Al Lorraine is. Is he or she notable? I couldn't say. (Perhaps not.)

I'm glad someone is doing something about the photographs. Much needed! Well done!

Signing off for now,Avril.rennie 03:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Revamp moved
I feel the page I've been working on at my sandbox is now viewable, so I've updated the main article with my current changes. Any grammar, spelling etc please feel free to change. It's definately still a work in progress, but I feel it now resembles a true Wiki article now.

Regarding the 'famous residents', I've changed this to 'notable residents', and removed a couple of names such as Roy Walker, as he stayed in Seamill (got to leave something for the Seamill page!). Some other stuff such as a cancer care shop in the town has been removed, not really notable as pretty much every town has at least one!

The churches section has been reduced to a sentence, but this could probably be built up again with the right sources cited.

Also, I have removed the trivia section, since they are discouraged on Wikipedia, but I have attempted to blend the information into the article (most of it is in the 'Present day West Kilbride' section. The external links section has been cut down, since a lot of the links are just a few lines above in the references section. I also removed the 'See also' section as Seamill and Portencross are linked several times in the main body of the article.

Would love to hear comments, good and bad. --Dreamer84 20:54, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Premature
I have reverted the revamp changes back to the previous version. Main reasons:
 * There are just far too many problems in the new version to cope with in one go
 * There are too many spelling and grammar errors
 * More seriously, it lacks coherence. The history section is going to be crucial, but the present attempt is just a random grab-bag of facts. A history section should tell a story, and it should be an interesting one, that flows in a logical order.

I suggest the best approach is likely to be to deal with the new sections one-by-one, starting with the least problematical. I'd suggest beginning with the historical buildings section (the pics there are very welcome), clean that up for spelling, style and grammar (but leaving the churches in for now), then move on to the next section (I suggest Amenities, not too bad, tho' it also has its problems). I have no objection to the new Residents section (except it should be titled Notable residents)(and maybe it could be expanded with more details about some of them).

The new version is just too poor to be acceptable. Sorry! But I'm sure if we take it bit-by-bit we can arrive at a top-quality article. Obviously we will need to discuss things as we go.

BTW, what happened to our poor wee railway station? Has someone put it in prison? All the photo shows is a fence and a roof! Strange way to start a restaurant business by putting a fence around it! I'd have thought a pic from the fron would be best, but if there's a fence in the way then maybe a platform-side pic would be better.

Hope you don't mind, I do appreciate the work you've been doing, but I do think the approach I've suggested is better. --NSH001 02:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

 * All points duly noted. :)

 * When I have done some more work tonight (eg spelling) I will move over the buildings section, the residents and the first paragraph of the history, as I believe it makes for a better introduction than what we have currently. If there are still spelling/grammar errors then please either point them out to me specifically or fix them, after all that's what Wikipedia is all about! And plus I've gone over things so many times that the words start to blur anyway.

 * Regarding the station's fence, they have an outdoor sitting area and I assume its to give the restaurant users privacy from station patrons, their cars, and the various teenagers that hang about outside in the evenings. A front view of the building would look much the same, only with cars! I did take a platform picture, I may swap them over. An alternative may be a view from the start of Law Brae, I'll see what its like next time I'm there. --Dreamer84 11:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Sounds a good approach, look forward to seeing it.
 * --NSH001 18:12, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Hear, hear!
I must say, I agree with NSH. The attempted re-vamp by Dreamer was not an improvement. Let's stick to the course we have been on. What we have been doing has been coherent and structured. Let's not throw that away. (No cause for complacency, of course, as I said earlier.)

I think our overall problem is that we have more than enough material to write a short book about West Kilbride. How is that to be condensed into an "article"? This is where someone's sound editorial judgment is necessary. From what I have seen, NSH is a safer pair of hands than Dreamer. So, please keep up the good work, Neil. Edit on!

The point about Mr Walker is very minor. Seamill does come under the wider "umbrella" of West Kilbride, as do Portencross and Hunterston. In time, Mr Walker's connection with Seamill will be forgotten. So, he should get deleted some time. But not yet, I suggest.

Regarding "famous" vis-a-vis "notable" residents, we have to leave a bit of leeway here. In today's society, it seems, some people can become "celebrities" without being at all notable. By contrast, others do vitally important work, of lasting benefit to society, without much public recognition. An OBE, if they are lucky. Nowadays, Lord Boyd Orr and Robert Simson are hardly household names (perhaps not even in West Kilbride!) but they are highy important and well deserve their inclusion here. Notable rather than famous, perhaps.

I admit I may have been stretching things when I included Celtic FC in the "Famous (or notable) residents" section. They have stayed rather than resided at the Seamill Hydro (and trained on the beach), on many occasions. Consequently, Seamill has come to be identified with Celtic to such an extent that I felt it should be included here.

Apparently, Robert Burns stayed overnight at Seamill Cottage on at least one occasion and carved his name on the glass of the bedroom window. (No bed-post? No guestbook?)  Unfortunately, I don't know enough about Seamill's connection with Burns to include it here. He didn't reside here officially, but he did leave his mark!

Regarding West Kilbride's notable buildings, I feel the article is greatly lacking in a detailed architectural appreciation of WK. It would be a great mistake to reduce our description of the churches to one-liners because the churches are some of WK's most prominent buildings. They are visual landmarks, cultural centres and vital to the spirtitual life of the community. Kirktonhall (birthplace of Robert Simson) does deserve to be written up in its own right, as does the village hall. Kirktonhall, until very recently, was used as the Registrar's Office for WK. The Old Smiddy (smithy) is still to be seen and the former weavers' cottages still line much of Ritchie Street and Main Street. Further afield, there are notable houses, such as Carlung, and handsome farmhouses, such as Millstonford, and others. What a wealth of material! Where do we stop?

Personally, I look forward to reading the volume in the Buildings of Scotland series (the "McPevsners") in which WK and surrounding area will be documented by a team of professional architectural historians. That will make our job much easier! (No need to reinvent the wheel!)

Vanished West Kilbride is a topic we could think about. Gone are at least two mills, the Roxy Picture House, and the old Police Station is currently being converted into flats. The Primary School that NSH and I fondly remember was burned down by vandals and a modern, open-plan Primary School has taken its place. (Sic transit ... !)

Neil, I have the answer to your question about the Railway Station by James Miller (architect). I had a latte coffee there this morning! WK Railway Station has been saved from near-dereliction and re-opened as a very swanky Italian restaurant called "Chu-Chus". (Geddit?) The James Miller building has been consolidated structurally, with due regard for its architectural character, and the interior has been transfomed into the sort of place you expect to see in the most fashionable areas of Glasgow. Wow! The fence you thought looked like a prison protects an al fresco seating area (for smokers?). Apparently, people are coming from far and wide to eat there. (Well, there is regular public transport, right to the door! And ample parking.)

I think "Chu-Chus" is a tremendous step forward. It's high time West Kilbride was famous for more than UFOs, baskets, candles, scarecrows, wind-farms ... and a certain Mr Walker.

Best regards to all contributors! Avril.rennie 12:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Well I'm very sorry I bothered, I'll leave the article in yours and Neil's capable hands. Happy editing. --Dreamer84 17:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Avril, I think you may have misunderstood my message to Dreamer. I think the work he's been doing is definitely a step in the right direction, and I'm sure we can produce a very good article by working together along the lines I suggested. I'll reply to your other points later (or maybe not) once I've had time to think about them.

 * Dreamer - I hope you won't be discouraged by Avril's message.
 * --NSH001 18:22, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I appreciate that Neil, I just didn't like the tone of the above post, felt like "screw Dreamer, please carry on reverting his work Neil". And I'd hardly call the entire current page "structured" by any means. Avril, I've spent literally hours taking photographs and scouring books for sources to back up every claim that's been written in the article (some are impossible I might add), and I was mainly looking for useful comments and constructive criticism, which I was getting until the above 'comment' this afternoon. I did say the article was still incomplete. If you feel that something has been omitted, then add it in (with the proper sources as needed), rather than come here and tell me about how it should be there. The amount of information posted on this talk page could easily create a brilliant article, yet half of it is nowhere to be found on the actual article.

 * Also, If we are going to include all aspects of Seamill, Portencross and Hunterston here, then we may as well set up redirects from all those links to this page. Perhaps the most difficult thing when working on this article is finding where to draw the line between information about West Kilbride, and the West Kilbride area, especially with the ambiguity over what exactly West Kilbride is these days!

 * I will update the castles/churches section tonight, lets see how it goes. --Dreamer84 21:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Okay so as I said, I have updated the "Places of interest" with a new "Historical buildings" section. Aside from the odd flowery word or unnecessary sentence here and there, I have not deleted any information from the existing article, merely expanded on it. I took out the Portencross Castle photo, as the castles area was looking a little busy with photographs, and the photo can easily be seen by clicking the article link. I found the fact that William Wallace apparently stayed at the original Crosbie Castle interesting, it wasn't something I was aware until I read the Lamb book recently. I was also disappointed to find the current Crosbie Castle (or rather 'Crosbie Towers') in the state it is now in.

 * I have also altered the History section slightly. The lead paragraph has been expanded, and other sections have been referenced. Of course, a greater overhall is badly needed, but this is a small stopgap in the meantime.

 * Finally, I have added the odd tag here and there where sources are need (again this is incomplete).

 * Here's a slight dilemma: buildings like the community centre and the village hall, should they be listed under "Historical buildings", or "Amenities"?

 * That's all the changes, I think. Please feel free to correct any mistakes. --Dreamer84 22:26, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Regarding the point from Avril Rennie, "Regarding West Kilbride's notable buildings, I feel the article is greatly lacking in a detailed architectural appreciation of WK.", I think it is very good to have a section on prominent buildings or landmarks, but to have 'detailed architectural appreciation' is perhaps beyond the scope of an encylopedia article don't you think? At most such a section should have a few sentences on each building to avoid unbalancing the whole WK page - if they are objectively of more interest in their own right than that, then they could have their own article (as the railway station now does).81.132.86.30 (talk) 07:34, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Apologies
Thanks to Dreamer for his latest contributions. Unfortunately real-life commitments mean I won't be able to devote much time to Wikipedia or this article for the next few days, possibly up to a week. Apologies for the temporary delay to the restructuring work. But (obviously) OK for anyone to do useful small changes such as spelling/grammar corrections, or adding citations. --NSH001 14:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

We're on today's Main Page!
(sort of ...)

Clyde Muirshiel Regional Park gets a mention in the "Did you know" section, with a link to West Kilbride appearing on the front page. --NSH001 19:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Updates - aiming for a top-quality article
West Kilbride has a pretty good page with lots of of info compared to towns of a similar size in Scotland, but I started thinking about what weaknesses it has compared to top-quality articles on Scottish towns. I have changed a couple of headings to bring them in line with A-rated articles such as Glenrothes, Arbroath and Kirkcaldy - ok W.K. is a smaller town than these so content may be shorter but it is helpful to readers to follow a standard format rather than the ideosyncratic headings which had crept in. Also, one thing the article lacks compared to those examples is a section on Geography. I also think that the primary school should be listed in a new section 'Education' rather than under Amenities. Lord Spring Onion (talk) 22:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I have added the headings History, Geography, Governance with some new text. The later sections need reorganised.Lord Spring Onion (talk) 12:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

History
Most of what currently appears seems cherry-picked and doesn't provide an overview. I suggest locating most of it under a subheading of 'early history' and adding a paragraph with more recent history - the weaving town/agricultural era which is actually the history of WK and not just of the general area. Also, Roman remains? I have found no other reference and it seems a tad unlikely and there is no citation...a book on the area says that The Fort was built on the site of an iron-age fort and does not mention Roman connection so I'm going to change it for now. Lord Spring Onion (talk) 07:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The 500-word section on 'Coat of Arms' needs drastically cut or completely removed...it is made all the more ridiculous in that it starts with "West Kilbride does not have a legitimate coat of Arms..." Lord Spring Onion (talk) 08:05, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I have removed coat of arms for the time being, and put more standard headings into the section. I also incorporated the 'historical buildings' into the subsection on medieval buildings.  I excluded Hunterston Castle as it is not in West Kilbride. Lord Spring Onion (talk) 12:45, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

LSO - thanks for your efforts, and I agree with most of what you're doing. The article is long-overdue for a major revamp, so thanks for that. For the moment I've just made a few small corrections. Previously my work here had been handicapped by lack of sources, but over the last couple of years I've acquired quite a good selection of sources, so sometime in the near future I'll be able to make some major contributions again. Trouble is, I've got too much else to do (on- and off- wiki) so it may be a little while before I take a full look at this article. --NSH001 (talk) 13:44, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks NSH, that's good to hear. Look forward to seeing your future edits.Lord Spring Onion (talk) 21:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Later sections
I have put the later sections in what appears to be a more standard order. I haven't done anything radical with the content though I have moved a few things - each edit should have an explanation beside it. I have added a few bits e.g. bus info to the transport section.

The landmarks section has become quite long but perhaps rightly so. It would be good to see more on the Glen, including perhaps the recent orchard development.

Do you think the education section could do with a bit on nearby secondary schools/colleges? Even if they are not in WK, that is where local kids have to go...

Haven't done anything to the last couple of sections, and I am aware a few things need citations added in. Hopefully that won't be long in being sorted.Lord Spring Onion (talk) 21:41, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Picture
One other thing - most articles on towns have a townscape-type picture at the top right, above the map. I could take one but if anyone has something suitable that would be a good addition, I think.Lord Spring Onion (talk) 21:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Robert Burns
I read that Robert Burns visited Seamill Cottage and left a diamond point engraving of some sort. Can anyone tell me if it's still there and where is Seamill Cottage? Part of the Hydro?

I feel that the West Kilbride article is of a professional standard by the way. Far better than most - including mine! Rosser Gruffydd 09:14, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the kind words, Rosser. I think the article still needs a lot of work to get it up to Good Article status. Never knew that Burns visited Seamill (but it wouldn't surprise me) - if you have a source for that statement, it would be good to post it here, ditto for any other source(s) you may have. Never heard of "Seamill Cottage", sorry. Regards, NSH001 (talk) 15:50, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Barony Church Windows
Is it noteworthy that the man who bought the church gave a roundabout way to account for their loss? He claimed that he had hired a company to store them for safe keeping and for some unexplained reason, were unable to account for their whereabouts, (but he couldn't produce them to speak up in court to show any records or evidence for this) and was actually fined the same amount he paid for the building in the first place. Apparently the windows had been gifted to the community, so there was obviously great local interest in their return.2.125.77.121 (talk) 11:57, 7 June 2014 (UTC)Lance Tyrell

 * As always on Wikipedia, do you have a source or sources for that info? For example, link(s) to newspaper articles or a book from a reputable publisher (see WP:RS). This is an article about the town, rather than any of its scandals, but if the case was widely reported, then it would probably be appropriate to include something in the article. Regards --NSH001 (talk) 15:12, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

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