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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Runetips

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The result of the debate was Delete. HappyCamper 13:24, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Runetips
No good. Erwin Walsh
 * Delete (changed from Reserved - as no further improvement to article has been made Alf 14:13, 25 August 2005 (UTC)) needs wikifying badly, I havn't a clue how famous any of these 'Massive User Dungeon' and 'Scapes' are, and will prob. change to delete if the article isn't improved. Alf 16:23, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, no reasonable claim to notability. Sdedeo 16:33, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - RuneScape is notable. A forum about it is not. ESkog 17:01, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Good nomination, Erwin, but try to use a more descriptive.. description when you nominate. Fernando Rizo T/C 17:29, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
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Legend vs historical
is this historical or legendary, the article states its legendary, if sources verify for instance ashoka's edict and chinese buddhist travelers accounts, then it must be historical. is it legendary based on archaeology because none of the discussion has been made in the article how its legendary it infact tries to prove its historical, regards. 175.137.72.188 (talk) 12:06, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gaming Galaxy

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The result of the debate was Delete. HappyCamper 13:22, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Gaming Galaxy and GamingG
Appears to be a non-notable website, Alexa indicates ranking >100,000; Google test indicates 42 hits. If the site is non-notable, then neither is a pseudonym for its webmaster --Mysidia (talk) 15:42, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Erwin Walsh
 * Delete both. Badvertisment hell today. Alf 16:19, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, nn Sdedeo 16:33, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete them. Optichan 21:59, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
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Speaker of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario

The Speaker of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario (Président de l'Assemblée législative de l'Ontario) is the presiding officer of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario.

1920
Nelson Parliament was a Liberal representing Prince Edward riding, who was named Speaker when the United Farmers of Ontario and Labour Party formed a coalition government in the 15th Legislative Assembly of Ontario. A considerable number of members in the governing party were either freshly elected or chosen to serve as government ministers (which made them ineligible to be elected). As a result, the Premier, E.C. Drury, looked to the opposition benches for a Speaker, and chose Parliament, who had served as an MPP since 1914. Upon becoming Speaker, Parliament resigned from the Liberal caucus and sat without party affiliation, as a compromise for his election. While this is the normal practice in the British House of Commons, it is the only time it has happened in Ontario.

1977
Jack Stokes was the NDP MPP for Lake Nipigon, and was named Speaker by Progressive Conservative Premier Bill Davis. His election is an example of an instance where a member of an opposing party was elected to the position. Davis was elected to lead a minority government and having an opposition MPP as Speaker was a means of denying the opposition one vote (as the Speaker only votes in the occasion of a tie and then must vote by precedent).

1985
Liberal Party MPP Hugh Edighoffer (Perth) was named Speaker following the 1985 provincial election that returned a slim minority Progressive Conservative government under Frank Miller. The opposition Liberals and NDP together controlled a majority of seats and so Miller nominated Edighoffer as Speaker, with Liberal leader David Peterson seconding the nomination, and Edighoffer was acclaimed. Days later, the Miller government was brought down by a Motion of Non-Confidence and, as a result of an accord between the Liberals and the NDP, Liberal leader David Peterson was asked to form a government without the legislature being dissolved and a new election. Edighoffer, a Liberal MPP, remained Speaker for the duration of the Peterson government as well.

1990
NDP MPP David William Warner (Scarborough-Ellesmere) was elected Speaker on the second ballot, in the first election held for the position by secret ballot, as the result of a reform introduced by the newly-elected Ontario New Democratic Party government of Bob Rae. Warner won over Liberals Jean Poirier (Prescott and Russell) and Gilles Morin (Carleton East) and PC MPP Norm Sterling (Carleton).

1996
On the seventh ballot, PC MPP Chris Stockwell (Etobicoke West) was elected Speaker, defeating fellow PC MPP Margaret Marland (Mississauga South), who was the preferred choice of Premier Mike Harris. Candidates eliminated in the previous six ballots were PC MPPs David Tilson (Dufferin-Peel) Jack Carroll (Chatham-Kent), Gary Leadston (Kitchener-Wilmot), and Derwyn Shea (High Park—Swansea), NDP MPP Floyd Laughren (Nickel Belt) and Liberal Gilles Morin (Carleton East).

2011
There were nine candidates for the position of Speaker in the 40th Ontario legislature, held after the 2011 provincial election returned a minority Liberal government. The Liberal candidates were Donna Cansfield, who was supported by Premier Dalton McGuinty, Kevin Flynn, Dave Levac and David Zimmer. A fifth candidate, Progressive Conservative MPP Frank Klees withdrew after his bid failed to receive sufficient support from either side of the aisle.

David Zimmer dropped off after the first ballot. On the second ballot, Dave Levac was elected Speaker. The actual vote totals were not released.

2014
Liberal MPP Dave Levac was re-elected to a second term as Speaker at the first session of the 41st Parliament held on July 2, 2014, becoming the first Speaker since Hugh Edighoffer to serve more than one term. Levac defeated NDP MPP Paul Miller and Progressive Conservative Rick Nicholls on the third ballot. NDP MPP Cheri DiNovo was eliminated on the first ballot and Liberal MPP Shafiq Qaadri was eliminated on the second ballot. Actual vote totals were not released.

2018
PC MPP Ted Arnott was elected as Speaker at the first session of the 42nd Parliament held on July 11, 2018 on the first ballot, defeating Randy Hillier, Jane McKenna and Rick Nicholls. Arnott was one of the three longest serving members of the legislature at the time of election.

2022
Arnott was re-elected Speaker on August 8, 2022, defeating a challenge by fellow PC MPP Nina Tangri, who had been endorsed by Premier Doug Ford.

Election
As with other Speakers that are modeled on the Westminster system, the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly is elected using a secret ballot. Since 1990, the position has been elected by MPPs in this manner. Previously, the Speaker had been appointed directly by the Premier of Ontario after consultation with the Leader of the Opposition and the leader of the third-largest party, and then ratified by the legislature. David Warner was the first Speaker to be elected by his or her peers. This change reflects a similar reform undertaken by the federal House of Commons in 1986.

The Speaker is usually a member of the governing party. The only exceptions have been Jack Stokes, Nelson Parliament and Hugh Edighoffer.

The Speaker is required to perform his or her office impartially, but does not resign from his or her party membership upon taking office. This is identical to the system in place in the federal House of Commons, but stands in contrast to the Speaker of the House of Commons of the United Kingdom. The only Speaker of the Legislative Assembly to have resigned his party affiliation upon election was Nelson Parliament, who was elected in 1920.

List of speakers of the Legislative Assembly
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List of current presiding officers
The Speaker of the Legislative Assembly is assisted by four other MPPs who are, along with the Speaker, collectively known as the presiding officers. Standing Order 2 of the Legislative Assembly requires that up to three of the five presiding officers hail from the Official Opposition. In the 43rd Parliament, however, the tradition of appointing three Official Opposition presiding officers was broken when three members from the governing Progressive Conservatives were appointed: Ted Arnott by secret ballot, and Donna Skelly and Patrice Barnes by the Government House Leader Paul Calandra, despite the fact that the Official Opposition NDP had put forward Jill Andrew and Jennifer French—in addition to eventual presiding officer Bhutila Karpoche—as appointees. Calandra dismissed Andrew's and French's appointments and selected Karpoche, Barnes and Lucille Collard from the Liberals, despite the Liberals not holding official party status in the Legislature. Skelly's appointment to the Deputy Speaker position was also unusual in that the role was traditionally given to the runner-up of the Speaker's election, which Skelly did not contend in (the true runner-up was Nina Tangri, who was Arnott's only challenger).

The Deputy Speaker is first in line to take the Chair in the absence of the Speaker. The Deputy Speaker is also ex officio the Chair of the Committee of the Whole House. The next three presiding officers are entitled deputy chairs of the Committee of the Whole House.

As with the Speaker, the other presiding officers are required to remain impartial in the Chair, but are not required to resign from their political party. They may participate in debate and vote as with any other member, when not in the Chair.

Residence
The Speaker once had both reception space and an apartment within the Ontario Legislative Building. After the closure of Chorley Park in 1937, the reception space was transferred over to the Lieutenant Governor of Ontario, as a non-residential vice regal suite. The Speaker maintains a residence at the Legislature, known as the Speaker's Apartment.


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Greek Homosexuality (book)

Greek Homosexuality (1978; second edition 1989; third edition 2016) is a book about homosexuality in ancient Greece by the classical scholar Kenneth Dover, in which the author uses archaic and classical archaeological and literary sources to discuss ancient Greek sexual behavior and attitudes. He addresses the iconography of vase paintings, the speeches in the law courts, and the comedies of Aristophanes, as well as the content of other literary and philosophical source texts.

The first modern scholarly work on its topic, Greek Homosexuality received some negative reviews but was enormously influential, helping to shape the views of other classicists. Dover has been praised for discussion of sexual practices such as intercrural copulation.

Summary

In the preface Dover writes that the aim of the work is: "To describe those phenomena of homosexual behaviour and sentiment which are to be found in Greek art and literature between the eighth and second centuries B.C., and so to provide a basis for more detailed and specialised exploration (which I leave to others) of the sexual aspects of Greek art, society and morality." In the Preface he furthermore argued that ‘heterosexual’ and ‘homosexual’ were not antithetical terms, but that homosexuality was a sub-division of the ‘quasi-sexual’ or ‘pseudo-sexual’.

The conclusions drawn are that the Greeks regarded homosexuality in general to be natural, normal, and salutary, and their actual practices were circumscribed by cultural norms. In the case of the ancient Greeks – specifically the Athenians – the book claims that the sexual roles of the lovers were sharply polarized.

Dover concludes that the Greeks conceived of same-sex relations primarily as intergenerational and identifies the terms for the roles of the two male lovers, erastes, "the lover," that is, the older active partner, and eromenos, "the beloved", indicating the adolescent male beloved. Basing himself on the work of Sir John Beazley, Dover divides the evidence of surviving vase painting depicting these type of relationships into three types. Some show the erastes offering a gift to the eromenos. Others depict the "up and down" gesture – the erastes attempting to fondle the eromenos while, with the other hand, he is turning his head to look into his eyes. The third group, usually older black-figure vases, show the couple engaging in interfemoral intercourse or, in a couple of instances, anal intercourse. Traditionally, the young beloved, when he reached the age of manhood – indicated in the iconography by his growth of a beard – would switch roles and become a lover himself, seeking out a younger male for a love relationship. Later in life he was expected to marry and produce new citizens for the state.

To fail to switch roles was considered unmanly and irresponsible, and Dover points out the mockery that Aristophanes (a very popular and successful Athenian comic playwright) inflicted in passing, in several plays, on a certain Athenian citizen who was notorious for his persistence in the role of beloved long after reaching his maturity.

With regard to the record of cases in the law courts, Dover concentrates primarily on a certain case initiated by the orator Demosthenes. Demosthenes had been in an embassy sent to the neighboring state of Macedonia which had not only failed to achieve its mission, but was widely suspected of having accepted bribes from king Phillip to abandon their mission. Upon the return to Athens, Demosthenes initiated a prosecution of his fellow ambassadors for bribery in an attempt to avoid being indicted himself. The defendants successfully had the charges dismissed on the grounds that one of Demosthenes' co-plaintiffs, Timarchos, had been a boy prostitute and had thereby lost his rights as an Athenian citizen, becoming ineligible to bring suit in Athenian courts.

Dover extensively quotes from the records of the trial to demonstrate, among other things, that while the Athenians attached no stigma to same sex relations per se, they did adhere to certain conventions; in this case, that no citizen could be permitted to sell his sexual favors, which they regarded as the proper function of a slave, not a free man.

Reception
Greek Homosexuality received some negative reviews. Nevertheless, the book had an enormous impact on the study of homosexuality in ancient Greece, partly because of Dover's credentials as an historian and a philologist. It influenced scholars such as the philosopher Michel Foucault, and the classicists David M. Halperin, John J. Winkler, and Eva Cantarella. Eva C. Keuls praised Dover for giving explicit discussions of subjects such as anal sex and intercrural copulation. The historian Peter Gay commended Greek Homosexuality as a "model of scholarship". The philosopher Roger Scruton dismissed it as "trivialising". Dover later granted that some of his claims in the first edition of Greek Homosexuality about the meaning of Greek words had been wrong.

Halperin called the work "the first modern scholarly study" of its subject and "a triumph of empirical research", and identified it as one of the key intellectual influences on his One Hundred Years of Homosexuality (1990). Halperin argued that the publication of the work in 1978, together with the appearance of the English translation of Foucault's The History of Sexuality, marked the beginning of a "new era in the study of the history of sexuality". The critic Camille Paglia disputed Halperin's characterization of Greek Homosexuality, observing that while it was a valuable book on Greek pederasty, it was not an "intellectual" work and aside from Dover's discussion of intercrural copulation contained relatively little that was surprising. Cantarella has criticized some of Dover's conclusions, concluding that there was no restriction on anal intercourse in pederastic relationships, a claim rejected by the classicist Bruce Thornton. Critical discussions of Dover's work include those by David Cohen in Law, Sexuality and Society (1991) and Thornton in Eros: The Myth of Ancient Greek Sexuality (1997). The philosopher Martha Nussbaum described Greek Homosexuality as the "best historical account of Greek sexual customs".

Greek Homosexuality was republished in a third edition, containing a foreword by Mark Masterson and James Robson discussing the book and its influence, in 2016.

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Talk:Mika Brzezinski

Homophobic slur
Why are some editors falsely claiming that Brzezinski's homophobic remarks about Pompeo were made in a tweet? Politrukki (talk) 22:21, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Supposed "Support" of Donald Trump
I've noticed this article and Morning Joe's wikipage contain the unsourced claim that Brzezinski "supported" Trump's campaign for president. To my knowledge, Brzezinski and Scarborough were criticized for repeatedly interviewing Trump on their TV show and not for defending his policies or directly endorsing his candidacy. Based on her statements in these Morning Joe interviews I think it's fair to say that Mika Brzezinski did not support Trump at all in 2016, let alone in the same way Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity did and do now. I've edited this section to remove the phrase "supporter of Trump" entirely, and the subsequent claim that Mika "turned against Trump" after he attacked her on Twitter in 2017. At best, this language violates WP:NPOV. At worst, it conflates repeated and ineffectual interviews with direct political support.

Does anyone have alternate sources criticizing Brzezinski for the same reasons as the Rolling Stone article? I'm not sure if it's too biased/opinionated to present a fair account of the controversy here. ⁂ (talk) 19:12, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MADCom

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The result of the debate was delete. --Tony Sidaway Talk 11:17, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

MADCom
Delete posthaste. Erwin Walsh
 * Delete - non-notable internet troll --Mysidia (talk) 15:51, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge with Gay_Nigger_Association_of_America. Notable notorious troll. 82.165.235.161 15:59, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete gren グレン 16:16, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete thoroughly uninteresting, unencyclopedic, net group user junk again (can you tell I'm feeling a bit worn by these today?) Alf 16:26, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:43, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Joolz 22:44, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Mysidia. —Charles O'Rourke 00:17, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
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Rania

Rania may refer to:

Places

 * Rania, Haryana, a City in Sirsa District, Haryana state of India.
 * Ranya, a district in Sulaymaniyah Governorate, Iraqi Kurdistan
 * Rania block, a community development block, in Jharkhand, India
 * Rania, Khunti, a village in Jharkhand, India

People
Rania or Raniah (Arabic: رَانِيَة rāniyah), also spelt Raniya, Raniyah, is an Arabic female given name from the root rana to side-look meaning side gazer".

 * Rania Al Abdullah (born 1970), Queen consort of Jordan
 * Rania Elwani (born 1977), Egyptian swimmer
 * Rania Mamoun (born 1979), Sudanese journalist and novelist
 * Rania Hussein Muhammad Tawfiq, known as Ruby (born 1981), Egyptian singer
 * Rania Zeriri (born 1986), Dutch singer

Entertainment

 * Rania, a former name of the South Korean girl group Blackswan
 * Rânia, a 2012 Brazilian drama film

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Umihara Kawase Shun

Umihara Kawase Shun (海腹川背・旬) is a puzzle-platformer video game and the second in the Umihara Kawase series. It was first released on February 28, 1997 for the PlayStation in Japan. A second edition, Umihara Kawase Shun ~second edition~ Maruan Series 1, was released almost three years at a lower price as part of the Maruan series, while a PlayStation Portable version, Umihara Kawase Portable, was released on March 27, 2008. A Nintendo DS compilation, Umihara Kawase Shun ~second edition~ Kanzenban, was released on October 29, 2009 featuring the first two games in the series, along with some extra levels, and wireless exchange of data is also supported. The game received a Steam release on November 24, 2015. This Windows version, also the first time it was released worldwide, added leaderboards, achievements, and Steam Trading Cards, among other features.

Umihara Kawase Portable disappointed critics on release, due to a bug-ridden physics engine, which differed in crucial aspects to its predecessors. Further criticism was leveled at the new visual perspective, which sometimes interfered with play. The DS port has been far better received by fans of the series than the PSP port, as it is a much more faithful conversion.

Gameplay
The move to a 3D side on game world opened up the fields to more complex layouts using a great deal of angled and jutting blocks. Slightly adjusted line physics (the rope is shorter, but more elastic and springy), along with no presence of slowdown, are the other main notable changes from its predecessor.

Development
The original game was developed by the same team as the original.

The Second Edition adds three new levels, fixes glitches, and removes the game's voice acting, replacing the in-game product placement with static artwork. It includes unlockable artwork for completing certain paths and levels. The defunct Japanese magazine TECH PlayStation Extra contained three new fields in each of its June, July and August 1997 issues' demo discs, along with guides to complete them.

The development of the Nintendo DS port was overseen by original designer/programmer Kiyoshi Sakai, with additional artwork from Toshinobu Kondo.

Umihara Kawase Portable was originally scheduled to be localized in the West under the title Yumi's Odd Odyssey, but instead, the game's sequel was released under the same name.

Reception
Kurt Kalata of Hardcore Gaming 101 called the game's PlayStation version much more polished, comparing the graphics to being hand-painted. While praising the sprites, he described the graphics as "repetitive", saying there was not much enemy variety. He also called the game's "blatant product placement" "jarring to say the least", criticizing the inclusion of commercials within the game by Umihara's voice actress as immersion-breaking and unwelcome. Nevertheless, he called the game's boss fights more interesting, and praised the inclusion of "Practice Mode", which allows the player to replay levels.

While characterizing the game's Second Edition as an improvement, especially due to the removal of advertising, Kalata called the PlayStation Portable version "frankly, terrible", saying that it was "so full of bugs that it's nearly unplayable" and that the physics engine had been changed. Saying that it got a bad reputation almost immediately due to gameplay videos of the different physics, he noted it as a commercial flop. He stated that the DS version was an improvement, and the "ultimate Umihara Kawase package".

Siliconera said that Umihara Kawase Portable "looks innocent enough", but in reality was "nightmarish", calling the fishing line Umihara's "only weapon, tool and friend". Daniel Feit of Wired, reviewing the Nintendo DS version, compared the game to Bionic Commando. Despite its lack of localization, he recommended the game to Western gamers due to the Nintendo DS being a region free platform, and the game being "relatively straightforward" to play.

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Brooklyn Community Board 16

Brooklyn Community Board 16 is a New York City community board that encompasses the Brooklyn neighborhoods of Brownsville and  Ocean Hill. It is delimited by East 98th street, East New York Avenue, Ralph Avenue, Atlantic Avenue and Saratoga Avenue on the west, Broadway on the north, Van Sinderen Avenue on the east, as well as by the Long Island Rail Road on the south.

Its current Chairperson is Genese Morgan, and its District Manager Viola D. Greene-Walker. The Community Board #16's Office is located at 444 Thomas S. Boyland Street.

On a daily basis, the District Office staff monitors all complaints from community residents and works with the Mayor's Office, Borough President's Office, and City agencies to resolve local complaints; i.e., potholes, street light outages, water leaks, refuse collection, housing, heat and hot water complaints, demolition and seal-up of abandoned buildings, pest control, lot cleaning, human resources, and youth programs. The staff also follows-up on the business of the Board and its committees.

The District Manager convenes a District Service Cabinet composed of all local service agency chiefs within the confines of Community District #16. The Cabinet members interface with each other on specific projects in the district and follow up on individual complaints of the community. The Cabinet members provide invaluable assistance to the District Manager as it relates to the delivery of City services to the residents of Community District #16.

As of the United States Census, 2010, the Community Board has a population of 86,468, up from 85,343 in 2000 and 84,923 in 1990.

Of them (as of 2010), 858 (1.0%) are White non Hispanic, 65,930 (76.2%) are African-American, 620 (0.7%) Asian or Pacific Islander, 287 (0.3%) American Indian or Native Alaskan, 280 (0.3%) of some other race, 1,124 (1.3%) of two or more race, 17,369 (20.1%) of Hispanic origins. 55.2% of the population benefited from public assistance in 2012, including 31.9% who receive Medicaid only.

The land area is 1230.6 acre.

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George, Duke of Brunswick

George, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg (17 February 1582, in Celle – 12 April 1641, in Hildesheim), ruled as Prince of Calenberg from 1635.

George was the sixth son of William, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg (1535–1592) and Dorothea of Denmark (1546–1617). His mother was daughter to King Christian III of Denmark and Dorothea of Saxe-Lauenburg. She acted as a regent during the early years of his reign, keeping power from the Councillors who had mismanaged the estates during his father's fits of insanity.

In the 1635 re-division of the territories of the House of Welf, after the death of Frederick Ulrich, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg, he received the Principality of Calenberg, which included the former Principality of Göttingen, since 1495, while his elder brother, Augustus the Elder, retained the Principality of Lüneburg. George was the first duke to move his residence to Hanover, where he built the Leineschloss as his residence in 1636, a palace situated by the river Leine. After his death, he was succeeded by his son, Christian Louis.

Children
George married Anne Eleonore of Hesse-Darmstadt, daughter of Louis V, Landgrave of Hesse-Darmstadt and Magdalene of Brandenburg, in 1617. They had the following known children:
 * Christian Louis, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg (1622–1665), Prince of Calenberg from 1641-1648, and Prince of Lüneburg from 1648-1665.
 * George William, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg (1624–1705), Prince of Calenberg from 1648-1665, and Prince of Lüneburg from 1665-1705. He was the father of Sophia Dorothea of Celle, wife of the future King George I of Great Britain.
 * John Frederick, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg (1625–1679), Prince of Calenberg from 1665-1679.
 * Sophie Amalie of Brunswick-Lüneburg (1628–1685), who married King Frederick III of Denmark.
 * Ernest Augustus, Elector of Hanover (1629–1698), Prince of Calenberg from 1679-1698, husband of Electress Sophia, and father of King George I of Great Britain.

Ancestry
George's Paternal Great-grandmother Ursula of Brandenburg and Maternal Great-grandmother Anna of Brandenburg were sisters. This meant his parents were second cousins, giving George an inbreeding coefficient of 0.015625.

Descendants
See List of members of the House of Hanover.

Popular culture
He is a character in the Eric Flint series of science fiction novels, The Ring of Fire as the Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg, a moderate conservative member of the Crown Loyalist faction, and commander of a division in the Army of the United States of Europe.

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Mr. Wiggles

Steffan "Mr. Wiggles" Clemente is a street dancer, noted for his popping skills. He is a member of the Rock Steady Crew, The Electric Boogaloos, Tribal Click, Zulu Nation, and TC5, also known as The Cool Five or The Crazy Five. Wiggles has been active as a dancer, actor, choreographer, dance instructor, music producer and graffiti artist.

Biography
Steffan "Mr. Wiggles" Clemente, born in 1965 in Bronx N.Y., is a South Bronx Puerto Rican raised on hip hop since the early '70s. His dancing career started by battling all around New York City. He built his battling reputation until he was able to battle around the world. This includes Europe, South America, Asia, the Middle East, Canada, and on the stages of Broadway. Mr. Wiggles has also been credited for 2 important movies which helped establish hip hop today. These movies are "Beat Street" and "Wild Style".

During his time in the graffiti crew, TC5, Clemente was known as "Rek" by other members of the group. Clemente originally got his stage name of Mr. Wiggles from a leader in the TC5 crew, who went by both "Seen" and "Mr. Wiggles." While cutting class, Clemente had shown Seen a certain dance move which inspired him to give Clemente his side-alias, Mr. Wiggles.

Aside from dancing, Mr. Wiggles also worked in theater, film, and music with popular artists such as Graciela Daniele, Bill Irwin, and Ann Marie DeAngelo. He has been a featured artist in the Apollo Theater and performed at the Kennedy Center. He has appeared in music videos with artists such as Missy Elliot, Usher, Madonna, and Limp Bizkit, among others.

Steffan Clemente is married to Zoraya Clemente and has 6 children named Unico, Alexandra, Talib, Ammar, Atiya, and Zamaria.

Wiggles performs as a solo artist and with the Electric Boogaloos and Rock Steady Crew. He is also committed to participating in outreach programs teaching youth about the positive aspects of hip hop culture.

Awards
Wiggles received a 1993 Foundation for Contemporary Arts Grants to Artists Award. Wiggles was nominated for a Drama Desk Award for the Ghettoriginal production of Jam on the Groove. He won a Bessie Award for Best Choreography for the theatrical production of So What Happens Now, a play dedicated to Buck4, a deceased Rock Steady Crew member.

Wiggles along with the members of Rock Steady Crew was acclaimed at the first VH-1 Hip Hop Honors in 2004.

In popular culture
Mr. Wiggles' instructional VHS tape Mr. Wiggles Sessions: Vol.# One [sic]: King Tut Style was featured in an episode of Red Letter Media's Best of the Worst entitled Wheel of the Worst #17. The episode ends with Rich Evans parodying Clemente as "Mr. Jiggles" who demonstrates "King Gut Style."

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Talk:YMB Saya Tin

National Anthem lyrics
In don't think the lyrics of the national anthem is by Thakhin Ba Thaung. Any historical proof? It is the chorus portion of the song "Doot-Bamar" (Our Bamar) solely written by Saya Tin. -- Zeyar --

This article seems to be mixed-up all the details of two different Saya Tin(s). YMBA Thakin Tin wrote national anthem "Doh Bamar" song. The birth year and parents' names are also YMBA's parents. I will find more references and fix this article. @== { Lion sla yer>       ☎    05:32, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/B/w

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete HappyCamper 13:25, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

B/w
Ambiguous, dictionary esque. Erwin Walsh
 * Delete would suggest wiktionary but I thought it primarily meant 'Black and White'. Alf 16:28, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless someone makes into list of verified abbreviations. Pavel Vozenilek 19:40, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I started this article. It is mainly aiming on people who've asked this a dozen times in various internet forums, as they could not find what it means. - andy 80.129.122.72 12:53, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.

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Talk:Warrior

British Warriors?
Am i the only person who has noticed a large presence of American infantry batallions, and nothing British? Do we deserve nothing? Come on.....Redcoats? Nelson? The SAS? Something, at least.

Cleanup
I think ill start a cleanup for this section. It needs more references and content, as well as new organization. BreadBuddy (talk) 17:54, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Defining warrior communities
The current list seems to lack a coherent definition of what a "warrior community" is. For example, is it a select group within a wider society focussed on martial pursuits? Or are we looking for a big social group with a martial focus? Or even an entire society in which martial prowess is elevated to a high level? Apply any of these and the list can be edited and gaps identified. Monstrelet (talk) 16:27, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

 * The list continues to expand as a random collection of people who once carried weapons. Nobody interested in improvement? Monstrelet (talk) 09:43, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

History section
Hi I was reading the history section and I think there are issues with the third paragraph

"In contrast to the belief of the caste and clan based warrior who saw war as a place to attain valor and glory, warfare was a practical matter that could change the course of history. History always showed that men of lower orders who, provided that they were practically organized and equipped, almost always outfought warrior elites through an individualistic and humble approach to war. This was the approach of the Roman legions who had only the incentive of promotion, as well as a strict level of discipline. When Europe's standing armies of the 17th and 18th centuries developed, discipline was at the core of their training. Officers had the role of transforming men that they viewed as lower class to become reliable fighting men."

This basically contains a lot of editorializing and dubious or unclear points as well as presenting war as something that occurred only in the past. Since the need to equip commoners has been cited already most of this paragraph is in fact redundant. imo what is actually needed instead is a note explaining how in european and other societies the warrior as a separate caste disappeared ie. due to the end of feudalism.

2A02:C7D:86B:4A00:1CA4:EB3B:546B:9C01 (talk) 10:10, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Women as warriors section
Attempts to delete this section seem premature. It is badly cited and some statements do need stronger evidence, though obvious POV edits seem to be absent. Just deleting after a few days of citation tagging and no real attempt to discuss what improvements are needed seems a rush, especially as a lot of the content here has sat in the article for a long time. Recommend a period to allow improvement before deletion. Monstrelet (talk) 09:16, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The section was horribly cited. It had two sources and one of those sources seems unreliable. I see some very slanted text that indicates POV edits. Lots of incorrect, badly cited, or POV content stays on lots of articles for a long time on WP. That does not mean it cannot be removed. We do not need a long period of discussion for a section that is so terribly written and cited. Uncited material can be challenged and/or removed. Plus, having a long section about the subject matter would also be undue because the article itself is small and women warriors are less common throughout history. Even the section itself admits that much. -TrynaMakeADollar (talk) 09:28, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

 * I don't think the section was good either but then the article is a bit of a dog's breakfast anyway. I do think, though, that some mention that not all warriors were men is a useful statement to make, and to give examples such as the Scythian grave finds which are well documented, or for that matter the Scandinavian archaeological evidence (not well represented in the article).  The Dahomey case, which only made it in as a picture, is also well documented.  However, I don't have the time or inclination to rewrite it.  If we don't get a volunteer shortly, I fear the delete will be the obvious thing to do but I think we should ask for improvement first.  I shall put a shout out on MILHIST not as a dispute but a request for editorial assistance.  If nothing comes through, go with the delete.  P.S. sorry about the Mongol warrior - that was carelessness on my part. Monstrelet (talk) 08:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Fine by me. -TrynaMakeADollar (talk) 06:17, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It has been almost a week since that shout went out to MILHIST and nothing has come through. And quite frankly nothing will come through. I am deleting the section now. The requests that are sent out to MILHIST are answered within a day or two, or not answered at all. For the record of anyone look at this talk page: As I stated above, the section is terrible, badly cited, likely undue (especially considering the size of the article), and reeks of POV and OR. -TrynaMakeADollar (talk) 21:13, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * There should at least be a paragraph on women warriors in the article. Sources speaking of them exist. They aren't a myth. Let's not be sexist. I added the link to the Women warriors in literature and culture page to the see also section. Halo Jerk1 (talk) 12:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

 * Okay, tracing back, what I should have said is that they aren't total mythology. Halo Jerk1 (talk) 12:17, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Nobody is saying there shouldn't be a section. The previous section was poor - not sufficiently encyclopaedic and badly cited.  It was opened up for improvement and nobody improved it, so it suffered bold deletion.  If you wish to create a new section, I can offer some assistance e.g. on archaeological aspects.Monstrelet (talk) 13:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The guy said, "It has been almost a week since that shout went out to MILHIST and nothing has come through. And quite frankly nothing will come through. I am deleting the section now." That's him saying we shouldn't have a section. Something would come through if actual effort was put in. Christ. Halo Jerk1 (talk) 10:30, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

 * No-one came forward. No previous editor who had contributed to that section came forward.  But, if you wish to put something together, then please do.  It is a gap in the article.  Or take the issue to other places and make a call for editors to address the issue if you don't feel up to tackling it yourself. Monstrelet (talk) 14:02, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

 * I put the shout out to MILHIST and no one wanted to tackle the issue. The previous section was terrible. Having a separate section for women as warriors would be quite undue considering the small size of this article. The fact that some women warrior communities are included in the list below is enough. Besides there already exists a separate article for women as warriors, which seems to be a bit of a mess as well. -TrynaMakeADollar (talk) 20:32, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Man, did I suggest "a separate section for women as warriors"? No. But a paragraph is warranted. Halo Jerk1 (talk) 12:38, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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César Peixoto

Paulo César Silva Peixoto (born 12 May 1980) is a Portuguese former professional footballer who played mainly as a left midfielder but occasionally as a left-back, currently manager of Primeira Liga club Moreirense.

He amassed Primeira Liga totals of 205 matches and 25 goals over 13 seasons, representing in the competition Belenenses, Porto, Vitória de Guimarães, Braga, Benfica and Gil Vicente. He played once for Portugal.

Peixoto started working as a manager in 2019, leading Moreirense and Paços de Ferreira in the top flight.

Belenenses
After playing his first two professional seasons at lowly Clube Caçadores das Taipas, near Guimarães where he was born, Peixoto's ability as a left winger allowed him to jump from the fourth division straight into the Primeira Liga with C.F. Os Belenenses, thanks to former player João Cardoso.

He scored seven goals in his first year, one of them a long range shot closing a 3–0 win against FC Porto at the Estádio do Restelo. In July 2002 he signed with Porto, going on to be managed by José Mourinho.

Porto
Peixoto's Porto career did not go as planned; while talented, he failed to impose in the first team, and in his first season only made 15 appearances, scoring three goals. He was starting to make his presence felt in the starting XI when, after netting in two consecutive league matches in 4–1 wins, he was seriously injured in the UEFA Champions League 3–2 away victory over Olympique de Marseille on 22 October 2003 and, while it did not seem serious at first, on the next day a ruptured anterior cruciate ligament was diagnosed, which forced him to miss most of the campaign.

After his recovery, Peixoto crashed his Mercedes-Benz SL500 while speeding to arrive in time at Porto's training center in Vila Nova de Gaia, and while only getting minor bruises, the car was completely wrecked and he was promptly asked for explanations by Mourinho. His image as a professional suffered much from the accident, and midway through the following campaign he was loaned to Vitória de Guimarães where he regained his previous form, returning to Porto for 2005–06.

Facing another loan, Peixoto remained in the transfer list until the eleventh hour, being one of the final players to get a sit in the team. Following the internal problems with Nuno Valente and the sub par performances of Leandro, coach Co Adriaanse turned him into a prolific left back in the same fashion of Portuguese internationals Miguel or Paulo Ferreira (who played right midfielder during most of his under-21 career).

After having scored twice at Associação Naval 1º de Maio in a 3–2 win – he also netted an own goal – Peixoto again suffered a major knee injury that would keep him away from the pitch for the rest of the season, eliminating any hope of World Cup selection. He would be dismissed by Adriaanse and joined La Liga side RCD Espanyol on loan for 2006–07, finally cutting all ties with Porto in March 2007; previously, on 27 February, Espanyol had also terminated his contract as the player failed to make any competitive appearances for the Catalans.

Braga and Benfica
Peixoto signed a three-year contract with S.C. Braga on 29 May 2007. He declared himself delighted to join "...the fourth biggest team in Portugal."

After two intermittent seasons, Peixoto refused to take part in Braga's 2009–10 UEFA Europa League fixtures against IF Elfsborg, after reported interest from S.L. Benfica, thus being suspended. On 7 August 2009, a transfer deal between the two clubs was arranged for a fee of €400,000 – Braga retained 50% of the player's rights. He spent most of his first season playing as left-back, battling for position with another adapted player, Fábio Coentrão.

After appearing in 65 official games for Benfica (one goal, in a 6–0 away win against Grupo Desportivo e Recreativo Monsanto in the 2009–10 edition of the Taça de Portugal), Peixoto was deemed surplus to requirements by manager Jorge Jesus as practically all Portuguese players, and was not given a jersey for the 2011–12 campaign, being ultimately released from contract on 6 January 2012.

Gil Vicente
On 31 January 2012, Peixoto signed for Gil Vicente F.C. for the rest of the season. In the second leg of the semi-finals of the Taça da Liga on 22 March, he assisted the opening goal by Hugo Vieira in a 2–2 draw with Braga before a win on penalties; he played in the final, a 2–1 loss to another former employer, namely Benfica.

Peixoto signed a new three-year deal on 17 July 2012. He scored his first goal for the club from Barcelos the following 28 April, a Panenka penalty kick to conclude a 2–0 win at home to relegation rivals S.C. Olhanense.

On 7 November 2014, Peixoto was suspended. He was dismissed on 26 December with what Gil Vicente deemed just cause, for missing a planned visit to a school.

International
Aged 28, Peixoto earned his only cap for Portugal, appearing as an 84th-minute substitute for Maniche in a 6–2 friendly loss to Brazil on 19 November 2008. He was called up by Carlos Queiroz for the final games of 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification, but did not play.

Coaching career
Peixoto started working as a manager on 11 March 2019, being appointed at LigaPro side Varzim SC. On 19 June that year, after succeeding in avoiding relegation, he moved to Académica de Coimbra in the same league. He left his post five months later, having collected only nine points in ten matches.

On 19 December 2019, Peixoto signed with G.D. Chaves, succeeding José Mota at the team eighth in the second division. He had his first experience in the top tier in November of the following year, when he replaced the departed Ricardo Soares at Moreirense F.C. on a short-term contract. Having won one of five league fixtures, he resigned on 2 January 2021.

Peixoto took over from Jorge Simão at F.C. Paços de Ferreira on 16 December 2021; arriving with the team in 13th, he finished the season two places higher. He opened the following campaign with no wins and two points from nine games, and after a 2–0 loss to Liga 3 side Vitória de Setúbal in the third round of the cup on 16 October 2022 he was dismissed. He returned to the same job at the turn of the year, after his replacement Mota had resigned with no points from four fixtures. Paços were eventually relegated as second-bottom, and he chose not to renew his contract.

On 3 June 2024, Peixoto returned to Moreirense; he replaced Rui Borges, who had led the club to a best-ever 55 points in the main division.

Personal life
From 2005 to 2007, Peixoto was married to actress and Rádio e Televisão de Portugal presenter Isabel Figueira. The couple had one child, a son.

On 3 January 2022, Peixoto tested positive for COVID-19.

Honours
Porto
 * Primeira Liga: 2002–03, 2003–04, 2005–06
 * Taça de Portugal: 2002–03
 * Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira: 2003, 2004
 * UEFA Champions League: 2003–04
 * UEFA Cup: 2002–03

Benfica
 * Primeira Liga: 2009–10
 * Taça da Liga: 2009–10, 2010–11
 * Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira runner-up: 2010

Gil Vicente
 * Taça da Liga runner-up: 2011–12

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Westlawn Cemetery

Westlawn Cemetery is a Jewish cemetery located in Norridge, a suburb of Chicago in Illinois. The cemetery covers 72 acre and roughly 46,000 people are buried there.

Notable interments

 * Leonard S. Chess, record company executive
 * Virginia Lee Corbin, actress
 * Sandy Dvore, artist
 * Mike Nussbaum, actor
 * Susan Nussbaum, actress and playwright
 * Richard Elrod, jurist, sheriff, and legislator
 * Jack Ruby, convicted of the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald, who at the time was under arrest for the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy (His conviction was later reversed. He died awaiting a new trial, still legally presumed innocent.)
 * Abe Saperstein, creator of the Savoy Big Five, precursor of the Harlem Globetrotters
 * Harry Sawyer, Jewish-American organized crime boss based in the Twin Cities, co-conspirator and protector of the Dillinger and Barker-Karpis Gangs.
 * Shel Silverstein, poet, author, satirist, and cartoonist
 * Gene Siskel, film critic

Vandalism
Westlawn was the site of gravestone desecration in January 2008. At least 57 tombstones were defaced with anti-Semitic slogans. Using white and blue spray paint, the vandal drew swastikas and slurs on tombstones in a western section of the cemetery.

A 21-year-old Polish immigrant male was charged with the crime in February 2008. He has been directly linked by police to a neo-Nazi organization in the Chicago area. He was convicted on two charges of felony vandalism and sentenced to 7 years in prison, the maximum sentence.

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Talk:Bergie

Tone
Maybe it's just me but the whole article reads as if it was about an animal, not people. I changed the first sentence "A bergie is a bum found in Cape Town, South Africa." to "Bergie is a term used for homeless people in Cape Town, South Africa.". Not sure that's correct, but it doesn't use a highly derogatory term to define some other highly derogatory term. Rl 15:50, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Feel free to change the style of the article. I was stating facts about bergies as I know them. Obviously this is (hopefully) not the definitive article. User:Nausea 10:25, 22 August

OK, so I changed the article, but I am (obviously) finding it difficult to get the tone right. It's difficult to describe this subsection of South African society in a detached manner and without sounding condescending. Maybe someone not from SA could edit the facts into a dispassionate article or request information that might be pertinant? There's very little out there (Google) not written in a joking/condescending fashion. Nausea 22:12, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

The whole second paragraph is very racist and feeds into unjust stereotypes. Shame on whoever wrote this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.97.102.233 (talk) 09:59, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Ethnic?
I added "black" to the intro and Category:Ethnic slurs based on the observation that all sources I find are about black people. Please undo that if I am mistaken. – I also removed the link to rsdb.org because their entry on bergie doesn't really add anything substantial to what we already have. Rl 08:13, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

 * They are actually mostly of the Cape Coloured race. I haven't personally seen any black Bergies in Cape Town, though I might be wrong. Nausea 14:55, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

 * "Cape coloured". I learned a new term. Thanks :-). Rl 15:16, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

 * It is not a slur, in the same way that "homeless", "hobo" and "tramp" are not categorised as slurs. Its etymology is descriptive, does not target an ethnic or religious group in general, and does not have negative connotations. Most bergies are Cape Coloured, but some are white people (more so than black people in the South African social sense which does not include people of mixed race). I have removed the category (now Category:Ethnic and religious slurs) as well as Category:Pejorative terms for people, both unsourced. Helen  Online  09:11, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Derogatory?
Is bergie really derogatory? I've never heard it used as a slur before.  Páll  (Die pienk olifant) 14:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposed deletion
I don't think this article should be deleted. We're not defining the word and it's not slang. We're describing a subsection of society within South Africa. Much the same as you would describe Aborigines in Australia, the San bushmen of the Kalahari or a specific African tribe. I do, however, agree that the article needs to be expanded with more references, lifestyle, habits, etc. of this unique subsection of South African society. Nausea 07:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, my mistake. Until(1 == 2) 16:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

To be fair, I've had a hard time coming up with references for the actual definition of bergie even on South African sites (I've checked both IOL and News24), rather than just uses of the term. I think this article probably fails WP:N and WP:NEO and should rather be merged somewhere (perhaps just a few lines into Cape Town or another appropriate article).  Zun aid  ©  ®  12:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Zunaid. Wizzy… ☎ 13:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I've never remembered NOT knowing what a bergie is - when I was 6 in 1983 I certainly knew what the word meant. I find it hard to consider the word to be a "neo"logism if it's at least as old as "Internet".  Does the word get used outside Cape Town?  Maybe Knysna, which has forested hills? Bernd Jendrissek (talk) 13:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Pop Culture
In song, famous in 'Lisa se Klavier', 3rd versie? Don't know if worth mentioning198.54.202.242 (talk) 13:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

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Max Adrian

Max Adrian (born Guy Thornton Bor; 1 November 1903 – 19 January 1973) was an Irish stage, film and television actor and singer. He was a founding member of both the Royal Shakespeare Company and the National Theatre.

In addition to his success as a character actor in classical drama, he was known for his work as a singer and comic actor in revue and musicals, and in one-man shows about George Bernard Shaw and Gilbert and Sullivan, and in cinema and television films, notably Ken Russell's Song of Summer as the ailing composer Delius.

Early years
Adrian was born in Kilkenny, County Kilkenny, Ireland, the son of Edward Norman Cavendish Bor and Mabel Lloyd Thornton. He was born in the provincial Bank of Ireland branch in Kilkenny, where his father was the bank manager, into a Church of Ireland family, the seventh of eight children. His paternal ancestry was Dutch, from settlers who arrived in Ireland with William of Orange in 1689. He was educated at the Portora Royal School, Enniskillen, whose past pupils also included Oscar Wilde and Samuel Beckett.

Adrian began his career as a chorus boy at a silent moving-picture house, coming on as part of the chorus line while the reels were being changed. He made his stage debut in the chorus of Katja the Dancer in 1925. He then toured with Lady Be Good and The Blue Train. He made his West End debut in The Squall at the Globe Theatre in December 1927. After working with Tod Slaughter's company at Peterborough, he joined the weekly rep in Northampton, where he took some forty roles a year. He made further West End appearances in The Best of Both Worlds at the Players' Theatre in 1930, The Glass Wall at the Embassy Theatre in 1933, First Episode by Terence Rattigan and Philip Heimann at the Comedy Theatre in 1934 (later toured in the UK and then transferred to Broadway, This Desirable Residence at the Embassy in 1935, and England Expects, also at the Embassy in 1934.

Classical roles and revue
Adrian first achieved wide public notice in a nine-month season at the Westminster Theatre from September 1938, as Pandarus in a modern dress Troilus and Cressida and Sir Ralph Bloomfield Bonnington in The Doctor's Dilemma, winning enthusiastic notices from the critics: "Mr Max Adrian triumphantly turns Pandarus into a chattering and repulsive fribble of the glossily squalid night-club type"; "The egregious 'B.B.'... is a great piece of fun, and Mr. Max Adrian rightly draws him with all possible exuberance of line."

Adrian joined the Old Vic company in 1939, playing the Dauphin in Shaw's Saint Joan, "a beautifully malicious study in slyness, effeminacy, meanness, and a curious lost, inverted dignity." He continued classical work with John Gielgud's company at the Haymarket Theatre (1944–45), where he appeared as Puck in A Midsummer Night's Dream, Osric in Hamlet, and Tattle in William Congreve's Love for Love.

Away from the classics, he played the Scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz at the Phoenix Theatre in 1943. In 1947, at the Lyric Theatre, Hammersmith, Adrian began performing in a series of revues (Tuppence Coloured, Oranges and Lemons, Penny Plain, Airs on a Shoestring, From Here to There, and Fresh Airs) in which he played more than 2,000 performances, and established himself, in Sheridan Morley's words, "as a superlative – if eccentric – light comedian." Fellow performers in the revues included Joyce Grenfell, Rose Hill and Elisabeth Welch. Contributors included Michael Flanders, Donald Swann and Alan Melville, and the producer was Laurier Lister, who became Adrian's lifelong partner. Adrian's musical numbers included "Prehistoric Complaint" (as a misfit caveman), "Excelsior" (as a put-upon Sherpa), "Guide to Britten" (as a manic conductor), "In the D'Oyly Cart [sic]" (as a jaded Gilbert and Sullivan performer), and "Surly Girls" (as headmistress of St. Trinian's).

When revue became less popular in the mid-1950s, Adrian went to America in 1956 to appear as Dr. Pangloss and Martin in Leonard Bernstein's operetta Candide on Broadway. The original production was a failure, but the original cast recording has rarely been out of the catalogues in the subsequent half century. He remained in the U.S., working in summer stock in roles as varied as Doolittle in Pygmalion, Jourdain in Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme, Shylock in The Merchant of Venice, and Sir Peter Teazle in The School for Scandal. He returned to London in 1959 to appear in Noël Coward's play Look After Lulu! in which he also later played on Broadway.

In 1960, Adrian joined Peter Hall's newly formed Royal Shakespeare Company (RSC) in Stratford-upon-Avon, together with such actors as Peggy Ashcroft, Peter O'Toole and Diana Rigg. He played Jaques in As You Like It, Feste in Twelfth Night, Pandarus in Troilus and Cressida, the Cardinal in John Webster's The Duchess of Malfi, and Father Barré in The Devils, as well as a range of smaller parts. He also starred with Dorothy Tutin, Richard Johnson and John Barton in The Hollow Crown, an anthology of prose and verse about the monarchs of England, devised by Barton and frequently revived in later years.

Adrian was one of the original members of Laurence Olivier's National Theatre Company at the Old Vic from 1963, and appeared as Polonius in the opening production of Hamlet, in which Peter O'Toole played the Prince. The Guardian called his performance, "sly, dry, and not quite stuffy enough, but every sally from this character was touched with a look of great complicity towards the audience which made something special of this sometimes over-charged part." He then played the Inquisitor in Saint Joan, Serebryakov in Uncle Vanya, Balance in The Recruiting Officer and Brovik in The Master Builder.

Solo shows and screen work
In the late 1960s, Adrian toured as George Bernard Shaw in the one-man show An Evening with GBS, which played in London, on Broadway, and in Asia, Africa and Australia. The Times said that the show "presented a deeply understanding portrait... impish, malicious, playful, outrageous, affectionate, angry and almost always eloquent." His later one-man show about Gilbert and Sullivan was a lesser, but real, success.

Adrian's first film was in 1934. He appeared in several British films in the 1940s, before playing the Dauphin in the Laurence Olivier production of Henry V (1944). He also appeared in Dr. Terror's House of Horrors (1965) as the vampire Dr Blake, The Deadly Affair (1966), and in several Ken Russell films: The Music Lovers (1970; as Anton Rubinstein), 'The Boy Friend' (1971) and The Devils (1971).

He was also featured in Russell's acclaimed award-winning 1968 Omnibus TV film Song of Summer, as the blind and paralysed composer Frederick Delius. Adrian once said that, of all the roles he had ever played, he had never had such difficulty in ridding himself of involvement in a character as that of Delius in Song of Summer.

Also on television, he appeared in a 1957 adaptation of A. J. Cronin's novel Beyond This Place, which was directed by Sidney Lumet. His other television work included the role of Senator Ludicrus Sextus in the first season of Up Pompeii! with Frankie Howerd (1969), Fagin in the 1962 dramatisation of Oliver Twist, and parts in The Baron, Adam Adamant Lives! and in 1959, in the Case of the Deadly Toy Perry Mason. He also appeared in the Doctor Who story The Myth Makers as King Priam. He played the part of the Baron de Charlus in the BBC radio plays Six Proust Reconstructions by Pamela Hansford Johnson.

His voice and acting style were notably distinctive. The Times referred to his "Osric-like elaborations of manner", and his voice "like no other heard on the English stage of his day, vestigially Irish and harshly attractive." The Times also described his 1934 performance in England Expects (Embassy Theatre) as "a gilded habitué of the backstairs" as outstanding.

Death
Adrian died at age 69 from a heart attack, at his and Lister's home, Smarkham Orchard, Shamley Green, near Guildford, Surrey, after returning from the television studios where he had been recording Bertolt Brecht's The Caucasian Chalk Circle for the BBC. At his memorial service, at which the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography said the great names of British theatre paid tribute to Max Adrian's style and professionalism, the lessons were read by Alec Guinness and Laurence Olivier and the eulogy was given by Joyce Grenfell.

Personal life
His elder brother was the botanist Dr. Norman Loftus Bor, who predeceased him by four weeks. Another brother, Lieutenant Thomas Humphrey Bor, RNR, was killed when his E-class submarine struck a mine in the North Sea in 1916. His younger brother, Fetherston Briscoe Bor, remained a farmer in Ireland until his death in 1965.

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User:Subcomandante

Hi, I'm subcomandante. In case you are wondering, yes I did take my name from Marcos.

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Wikipedia:Collaboration of the week/Potter's field

Potter's field

 * Nominated on 15:51, 21 August 2005 (UTC); needs 5 votes by 28 August.

This is a great topic that really deserves to be expanded!

Support:
 * 1) Nick Catalano (Talk) 15:51, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Trevor MacInnis (Talk | Contribs) 03:39, 22 August 2005 (UTC)


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Toros Roslin

Toros Roslin (Թորոս Ռոսլին, ); c. 1210–1270) was the most prominent Armenian manuscript illuminator in the High Middle Ages. Roslin introduced a wider range of narrative in his iconography based on his knowledge of western European art while continuing the conventions established by his predecessors. Roslin enriched Armenian manuscript painting by introducing new artistic themes such as the Incredulity of Thomas and Passage of the Red Sea. In addition he revived the genre of royal portraits, the first Cilician royal portraits having been found in his manuscripts. His style is characterized by a delicacy of color, classical treatment of figures and their garments, an elegance of line, and an innovative iconography.

The human figures in his illustrations are rendered full of life, representing different emotional states. Roslin's illustrations often occupy the entire surface of the manuscript page and at times only parts of it, in other cases they are incorporated in the texts in harmony with the ensemble of the decoration.

Biography
Little is known about Toros Roslin's life. He worked at the scriptorium of Hromkla in the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia where the patriarchal see was transferred to in 1151. His patrons included Catholicos Constantine I, king Hethum I, his wife Isabella, their children and prince Levon, in particular. The colophons in Roslin's manuscripts permit scholars to partially reconstruct the world in which he lived in. In these colophons Roslin appears as a chronicler, who preserved facts and events of his time. In his earliest surviving manuscript the Zeytun Gospel of 1256, Roslin signed his name as "Toros surnamed Roslin".

Only Armenians of noble origin had a surname in the Middle Ages; however, the surname of Roslin does not figure among the noble Armenian families. Roslin may have been an offspring of one of the marriages common between Armenians and Franks (any person originating in Catholic western Europe) that were frequent among the nobility but occurred among the lower classes as well. Roslin also names his brother Anton and asks the readers to recall the names of his teachers in their prayers.

Levon Chookaszian proposed a more detailed explanation of the appearance of this surname in the Armenian milieu. He asserted that the surname Roslin originated from Henry Sinclair of the Clan Sinclair, baron of Roslin who accompanied Godfrey of Bouillon in the 1096 Crusade to Jerusalem. Chookaszian's hypothesis is based on the assumption that like most prominent Crusaders of the time, Sinclair married an Armenian.

The approximate dates of Roslin's birth and death can be determined using the dates of his manuscripts. Based on the following it can be assumed that Roslin was at least 30 in 1260. At the time one could only achieve the level of mastery displayed in the Zeytun Gospel of 1256 no earlier than in their mid twenties. In the colophon of the Gospel of 1260, Roslin mentions that he has a son, indicating that he was likely a priest since a monk would have no children while a member of the laity would likely not have been an illuminated manuscript painter. By the time of the Gospel of 1265, Roslin already had his own apprentices. Roslin painted two portraits of prince Levon, the earliest of which was executed in 1250 (the prince was born in 1236) and the second in 1262 showing the prince with his bride Keran of Lampron. Roslin's name isn't seen on any manuscript dated after 1286 and he most likely died in the 1270s. None of Roslin's contemporaries or his pupils refer to him in their work and in the following centuries, his name is only mentioned once when the scribe Mikayel working in Sebastea in the late 17th century found in his monastery a gospel book illustrated in 1262 by the "famous scribe Roslin" which he later copied.

Signed by Toros Roslin
Seven manuscripts have been preserved that bear the signature of Roslin, they are made between 1256 and 1268 five of which are copied and illustrated by Roslin. Of these four are owned by the Armenian Patriarchate of Jerusalem located in the Cathedral of St. James. These include the Gospel of 1260 (MS No. 251) copied for Catholicos Constantine I. The Gospel of 1262 (MS No. 2660) was commissioned by Prince Levon, during the reign of King Het’um (I, 1226 to 1270), copied at Sis by the scribe Avetis, illustrated by Roslin at Hromkla and bound by Arakel Hnazandents. The Gospel of 1265 (MS No. 1965) was copied for the daughter of Constantine of Lampron, lady Keran who after the death of her husband Geoffrey, lord of Servandakar, retired from the world. Mashtots (MS No. 2027) was commissioned in 1266 by bishop Vartan of Hromkla, copied by Avetis who had previously collaborated with Roslin in 1262 at Sis and illustrated by Roslin at Hromkla.

The Sebastia Gospel of 1262 (MS No. 539) is located in Baltimore's Walters Art Museum. It was copied for the priest Toros, nephew of Catholicos Constantine I. Written in uncials it is the most lavishly decorated among the signed works of Roslin. The manuscript was kept in Sivas since the 17th century where it remained until the deportation of Armenians in 1919. Ten years later it was purchased by American rail magnate Henry Walters in Paris, whose long standing interest in Armenian art was rekindled by the tragic events of the previous decade. His wife Sadie Walters donated the manuscript to the Walters Art Museum in 1935. The Zeytun Gospels of 1256 (MS. 10450), copied for Catholicos Constantine I {See link }and the Malatia Gospel of 1268 (MS No. 10675) are located at the Mashtots Institute of Ancient Manuscripts in Yerevan. The manuscript (formerly MS No. 3627) was presented to Catholicos Vazgen I as a gift by Archbishop Yeghishe Derderian, patriarch of Jerusalem. The Catholicos in turn gave the manuscript to the institute. The manuscript was commissioned by Catholicos Constantine I as a present for the young prince and future king Hethum. In the colophons of the manuscript Roslin describes the brutal sack of the Principality of Antioch by the Mamluk Sultan Baibars: "...at this time great Antioch was captured by the wicked king of Egypt, and many were killed and became his prisoners, and a cause of anguish to the holy and famous temples, houses of God, which are in it; the wonderful elegance of the beauty of those which were destroyed by fire is beyond the power of words."

Canon tables and ornaments
The principal innovation of Roslin in regards to ornaments within canon tables is the addition of bust portraits. In the Gospel of 1262 (MS No. 2660), Eusebius and Carpianus are represented as full figures standing in the outer margins of the Letter of Eusebius. Roslin also represented prophets such as David, Moses and John the Baptist. This system was highly unusual for canon table decoration, for although portraits of prophets had been represented next to canon tables as early as the 6th-century Syriac Rabbula Gospels, their relationship to the gospels was not made explicit through the quotation of their messianic prophecies. New zoomorphic creatures are also added to the usual repertoire of winged sphinxes and sirens such as dog or goat headed men carrying branches of flowers along with various quadrupeds and birds. On the first page of each gospel and the beginning of pericopes floral as well as zoomorphic letters are formed utilizing peacocks or other creatures.

Attributions
Several contemporary manuscripts from the 13th century, devoid of colophons have sometimes been attributed to Roslin. MS 8321, the mutilated remains of which were formerly at Nor Nakhichevan and now in Yerevan, was commissioned by Catholicos Constantine I as a present for his godchild prince Levon. Prince Levon's portrait was bound by mistake in MS 7690 and was returned to its original place. A dedicatory inscription which faced the portrait has been lost. The portrait shows the prince in his teens wearing a blue tunic decorated with lions passant in gold roundels with a jeweled gold band at the hem. Two angels, in light blue and pink draperies, hold their rhipidia (liturgical fans) above the prince's head. Stylistically these pieces are much closer to the ones painted by Roslin than those of other artists at Hromkla who were still active in the 1250s. Another mutilated manuscript, MS 5458 located in Yerevan is often assigned to Roslin. Thirty-eight vellum leaves from the Gospel of John have been incorporated into the manuscript in the late 14th or early 15th century in Vaspurakan.

The priest Hovhannes who salvaged the remains of the old manuscript reports in one of the colophons that he had suffered seeing the old manuscript fall into the hands of the "infidels" like "a lamb delivered to wolves" and that he renovated it so that the "royal memorial written in it might not be lost". Part of the original colophons, the "royal memorial" reports that the manuscript was written in the see of Hromkla in 1266 for the king Hethum. The uncials are identical to that of MS 539 and similar marginal ornaments adorn both. Yet another manuscript attributed to Roslin and his assistants is MS 32.18 currently located at the Freer Gallery of Art in Washington, D.C. The colophons are lost but the name of the sponsor, Prince Vassak (brother of king Hethum I) is written on the marginal medallion on page 52: "Lord bless the baron Vassak" and again on the upper band of the frame around the Raising of Lazarus: "Lord have mercy on Vassak, Thy servant, the owner of this, Thy holy Gospel". The uncials and the ornaments match those of MS 539 and MS 5458. Prince Vassak was sent to Cairo by his brother in 1268 to pay ransom and obtain the release of prince Levon and thousands of other hostages captured after the disastrous Battle of Mari. They returned home on June 24, 1268. At this time Roslin had already completed the copy and illustrations of MS 10675 and his chief patron, Catholicos Constantine I having died, Roslin would have been free to work for another patron such as prince Vassak who had a reason to celebrate.

Iconography
Among Roslin's various miniatures on the theme of the Nativity, the Nativity scene of the Gospel of 1260 (MS No. 251) stands out the most. Mary and the Child are presented seated on the throne near a grotto combined with in the lower angle with the portrait of Matthew the Evangelist, in reverse proportional correlation. The combination of the two scenes was originally developed in Constantinople during the Comnenian era and reinterpreted by Roslin. Another unique attribute of this composition is seen in the top right corner where the bodyguards of the Magi, who are mentioned in apocryphal gospel accounts as soldiers who accompanied the Magi, are represented as Mongols. Art historian Sirarpie Der-Nersessian suggests that Roslin, "bearing in mind that the Magi came from the East, ...has represented the bodyguards with the facial type and costume of the Oriental peoples best known to him, namely the Mongols, the allies of king of Cilicia [Hethum I]."

Legacy
Sirarpie Der-Nersessian devoted the longest chapter in her posthumously published magnum opus Miniature Painting in the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia to Toros Roslin whose work she had researched for years. In the chapter she underlines: "Roslin's ability to convey deep emotion without undue emphasis," and in describing one of Roslin's scenes she extols: "The compositional design, the delicate modeling of the individual figures, and the subtle color harmonies show Roslin’s work at its best, equaling in artistic quality some of the finest Byzantine miniatures."

A 3.4 meter high statue of Toros Roslin made of basalt was erected in 1967 in front of the entrance of Matenadaran. The statue was designed by Mark Grigoryan and sculpted by Arsham Shahinyan. A fine arts academy named after Toros Roslin was founded in 1981 by the Hamazkayin Armenian Educational and Cultural Association in Beirut, Lebanon.

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Talk:Potter's field

Plagiarism
First sentence as it stands is plagiarized from the American Heritage Dictionary. Can someone revise it?

65.213.77.129 (talk) 16:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe a little more?
In looking at this article as it stands, it fails to really convey the current uses behind Potter's Field. Do we want to leave it like this? Or add to it? Any current thoughts? Wikiport (talk) 05:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Scripture
Curious about Matthew 27:7 I pulled out my bible and looked it up. The piece writen exspands into 3 verses.

Matthew 27:5-8

5: And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple,and depated, and went and hanged himself. 6: And the chief priests took the silver pieces and said, it is not lawful to put but them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood. 7:And they took to counsel, and bought with them the potter's field to bury strangers in. 8:Where for that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.

--dixierosesc (talk) 18:05, 24 December 2008 (UTC)Riseabovethis

Wallabout Bay
The part about a section of the East River seems to come from a Joseph Mitchell book called The bottom of the harbor. This book is a work of fiction and seemed unworthy of being used as a citation. The part from the book says its actual name is Wallabout Bay.--DataSurfer (talk) 21:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Kerameikos
The original cemetery of Athens was also the potter's quarters. Perhaps you want to mention the site as another possible source of the name "Potter's Field" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.81.21 (talk • contribs) 16:55, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

References to Jeremiah and Zechariah
I added these as they seem relevant and are in the Good News study bible.

Also, as there is a Potter's Field album, a place in Omaha of the same name, a song (by Tom Waits) and well as this page is there not a good case for a Potter's Field disambiguation page?  SmokeyTheCat   •TALK•  12:24, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Strip mining?
A field from which clay is extracted is not a "strip-mining site"! It is also speculation to say that a field from which clay was extracted would be useless for agriculture, but usable for burials. If there was no soil, and the clay had been taken, stones would be left - useless for graves too.Royalcourtier (talk) 05:31, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

While you are onto the right track, there is no making sense of it. Its quite possibly a back-explanation of the name Potters Field to say that it must have been literally where clay was harvested/quarried. There is a reason that a cemetery would be called a potters field ,rather than a cemetery. The children may be particulary scared to walk into a cemetery right, so you might tell them its a Potters field   ?

The name is apt, as a paupers cemetery, which may be in a poor state of maintenance may have numerous depressions ,where the old grave has been, which might remind one of a field that has had clay harvested from it. The field in Jerusalem referred to in the Christian bible would certainly have old graves evident in the form of pits, depressions, and debris from digging, as the Jewish practice is to retrieve the bones from the field and inter them into crypts at or nearer the family home. The article clearly says that the bible reference is only a way to date the name back to then. It does not strongly indicate that the original field was literally used to quarry clay.

27.96.199.11 (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

'US' expression
2nd sentence of article: "The US[1] expression potter's field derives from the Bible, referring to a field used for the extraction of potter's clay; such land, useless for agriculture, could be used as a burial site." This is clearly not exclusively a US expression. The examples list includes a quotation from William Blake, a British artist and poet, and Potters Fields in London, England. Collins New English Dictionary, Collins, London & Glasgow, 1st Ed 1956: "potter's field (Bib.) a burial-ground for stranger Jews; hence a burial-place for unidentified persons etc. (fr. pot)." The source cited for this statement is Collins, 10th Edition, which gives 1520s as the date of earliest recorded usage: "Potter's field (1520s) is Biblical, a ground where clay suitable for pottery was dug, later purchased by high priests of Jerusalem as a burying ground for strangers, criminals, and the poor (Matt. xxvii:7)" The 1520s precede the existence of the United States and of American English as a separate version of English usage. Aside from being inaccurate as regards 'US' usage, the sentence used is not derived from the source it cites. I am therefore replacing it. Robocon1 15:12, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It does appear to be a US expression now. This is called pauper's grave outside US, and not sure why this article has a US title when common grave is used in all varieties of English? "Potter's field" in books refers to Judas and Akeldama, or Zechariah 11. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:04, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have certainly never heard this term used in British English. --Ef80 (talk) 11:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Maybe in NYC, where english has been used for a while now,  when Ichibod  was told to reserve  a paupers field , as in a paupers cemetery ,  he heard "potters field" which he knew as  a biblical reference.

Whats missing is that potters field ought to be in a poor state of maintenance. The jews retreive the bones after a year or two, and so the graves would be left as holes ready for reuse. hence it would look like the field had been quarried...

1.129.109.98 (talk) 10:12, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 7 March 2018

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The result of the move request was: consensus not to move to the proposed title, and no consensus to move to any of the other suggested titles at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 05:37, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Potter's field → common grave – common grave and pauper's grave redirect to this article at the American expression, but "common grave" and "pauper's grave" are also understandable in American English. The content about the American idiom can by placed lower in the page, and content about common graves in the rest of the world added. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:07, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * A shared term is certainly better, but "common grave" does seem to run the risk of being used to also mean mass grave -- indeed we also have this stub common burial (although I'm not sure that article needs to exist independently).--Yaksar (let's chat) 08:20, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Per User:Zxcvbnm, should this not come to a consensus, the article should certainly be restored to its status quo name, rather than the one it was just moved to. Please note that this is not me yet weighing in on this proposed move.--Yaksar (let's chat) 13:32, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Support - This seems to be the (a) WP:COMMONNAME, or is suffiently clear that it can be used as WP:NATURALDIS to avoid the parenthetical. Add Distinguish pointing to mass grave and potentially merge the stub Yaksar mentioned and redirect. -- Netoholic @  09:16, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Support alternate move - Moving this article back to Potter's field where it used to be until the undiscussed move today and moving The Potter's Field to Potter's Field per WP:SMALLDETAILS. It seems quite disingenuous to move an article to an unnecessary disambiguation and then nominate it for a different name to 'avoid' said disambiguation that was never necessary in the first place. Common grave can also mean mass grave, perhaps it should be a disambiguation page with common burial also redirecting to it.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 11:33, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hold on it's not disingenuous it's that (1) "potter's field" usually refers to the literal original Akeldama of Judas Iscariot in books not to a generic common grave in New England, (2) as an idiom for "pauper's grave" this idiom is geocentric American and with all respect, this isn't the American Wikipedia. But whatever I'm not greatly concerned about the (graveyard) bit, but look at the GBook results: "common grave" About 80,700 results, "pauper's grave" About 29,000 results, "potter'+field"+grave+OR+burial -judas-zechariah-iscariot About 21,800 results and many of those results are US place names. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:06, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Having said that I wasn't aware that "common grave" can be used for "mass grave". As it is "common grave" redirects here so if it is ambiguous it is coming here any way. Looking at "common grave" in books, it does seem to not be "mass grave" in most instances, but as per 's suggestion, Common burial might be better, and merged into this. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:12, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * "Potter's field" does not refer to "a generic graveyard in New England", it is the overall term for any graveyard that has unknown bodies interred in it. This dismissive attitude is not helping the discussion and shows that the move to a disambiguation was done in haste. It might not be "American Wikipedia" but it is the most specific term to describe it and anyone who is not from America and is confused can refer to hatnotes/disambiguations.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * But it isn't. This is a US term. In books "potter's field" (small p) refers to Judas Iscariot and really should redirect either to Akeldama or The Potter's Field dab page. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:49, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Not common grave, since that refers to a collective grave, mass grave, or common burial (at least to some people including me). —BarrelProof (talk) 21:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * do you think then it would be better if I amended the move template to pauper's grave as per the 2007 Mozart book book below? In ictu oculi (talk) 07:23, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's very uncommon for the outcome of an RM to be different from the initial suggestion, even without changing the move template mid-stream (which might be confusing). —BarrelProof (talk) 16:59, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It may be worth noting that a "potter's field" is a graveyard, not a grave, so a change of title from "Potter's field" to "Pauper's grave" would be a change of the topic, not just a change of the term used to describe the topic. —BarrelProof (talk) 16:59, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Oppose common grave sounds like a mass grave, etc. Also, potter's field is the same in Oxford and MW  Alanscottwalker (talk) 00:47, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * please note the blue italic "historical : A burial place for paupers and strangers." Those are dictionaries, not encyclopedias, so obviously the archaic historical term exists in dictionaries alongside modern terms. Please consider this, that no scholarly book would say "it is certainly not the case that Mozart was buried in a potter's field: individual graves were the exception, not the rule," (that from 2007 says "not the case that Mozart was buried in a pauper's grave"). And the same https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pauper's_grave does not have the blue italic historical which is used for the "potter's field" entry. It simply has "NOUN A grave provided for a pauper by means of public or charitable funds". In ictu oculi (talk) 07:21, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * What's your question? No, Mozart was not buried in a potter's field, nor did he have a pauper's grave, he was buried in a mass grave in accordance with Viennese custom, his funeral and burial being paid for by a patron.  A potter's field denotes a graveyard, it is an area (field), not a single grave, nor a single mass grave - and one can be a pauper (someone without funds that no person will pay burial for), an unknown stranger, or a criminal that no one will/can claim. Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:12, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Oppose. A common grave is a single grave with more than one body in it. The term should not redirect here. Srnec (talk) 14:18, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Oppose. A common grave can mean (1) a mass grave, (2) a grave in common (e.g. several members of one family buried in a common grave, often under a single headstone), and (3) a grave for commoners as opposed to aristocracy (see Death of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart).

 * That said, I find the title "potter's field" thoroughly unsatisfactory. In UK (notwithstanding the old quotations noted above), the overwhelming primary meaning is (what I've just learned is called) the Akeldama. "And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in." and "And gave them for the potter's field, as the Lord appointed me." (Matt 27:7, 10). I had never heard the American meaning before today.

 * I prefer pauper's grave or paupers' grave, which is descriptive and seems to have the same meaning on both sides of the Atlantic, and possibly also in other English-speaking countries. Narky Blert (talk) 15:48, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

 * I agree with Narky Blert. 'Pauper's grave' is descriptive and straightforward and understood throughout the English-speaking world. The article should be moved to that title and the US bias removed. 'Common grave' is ambiguous, as most seem to agree here. Jamesmcardle(talk) 01:12, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

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Requested move 26 October 2018

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Simplexity22 (talk) 16:03, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Potter's field → Paupers' grave – I think that enough time has elapsed since the last WP:RM (Requested move 7 March 2018, which I recommend to anyone posting in this new discussion; there are also relevant remarks in 'US' expression, above) to reopen this issue. The meaning of 'potter's field' as 'a burial place for the poor or the unknown' may nowadays be exclusively US. It is certainly unknown in UK, where – if it is understood at all, and it wouldn't be to people of many faiths – it would be taken as a Biblical reference. See my remarks in the discussion of 7 March 2018.

(I had almost forgotten that earlier discussion. I am posting now because User:DPL bot had just alerted me to a bad link to Potter's Field (a redirect to a DAB page) in Homewood Memorial Gardens, Homewood, Illinois, which I was able to repair.)

(If my suggested move is accepted, some consequential edits will be needed, probably both to articles and to redirects. I point the closer to WP:FIXDABLINKS, which IMO puts an unnecessary burden on RM closers. I suggest that closer ping all !support voters (including me) to help with the cleanup.) Narky Blert (talk) 08:38, 26 October 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Flooded  with them hundreds  11:51, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Happy to contribute to the move of 'Potter's field' to 'Paupers' grave'.Jamesmcardle(talk) 09:57, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

 * Paupers' grave or Pauper's grave? (i.e., where should the apostrophe go?). I suggest the latter, since it otherwise implies a single grave for more than one pauper, which I don't think is the intended meaning. —BarrelProof (talk) 14:17, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support. Hyperbolick (talk) 15:02, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Not exclusively American, Canadian too. It is a Biblical reference, but so what? If this is an ENGVAR issue, leave it alone. Although the proposed title is better than last time's. Srnec (talk) 18:25, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:TITLEVAR.  Calidum   17:35, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose per historical significance and long-term stable name (if it is). The ngram on this is pretty interesting], almost a statistical tie in 2008 but not quite, as Potter's field is used more often. I say historical significance because the ngram shows 120 years of predominate usage of 'Potter's field'. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:14, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Separate topic.  The article matches the current title, and paupers’ graves are a related, but different topic. Paupers graves are not typically found in Potters’ fields.  One topic is an ancient thing, the other is modern. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:42, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westlawn Cemetery

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The result of the debate was KEEP. -Splash 03:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Westlawn Cemetery
Doesn't deserve its' own article, possible merge candidate. Erwin Walsh

 * Comment there are two articles which currently have links pointing to it.Geni 15:59, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment - Are we going to have an article on every graveyard/semetary that has a famous person buried there? My God. Erwin Walsh
 * Delete. I hope we won't. Pilatus 16:08, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge into the said dead dudes articles. Alf 16:30, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. WC seems non-notable (in contrast, e.g., to Highgate Cemetery. Sdedeo 16:36, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't know how to vote on this one. Google offers only 12,300 results. If it could be expanded a bit (maybe a few pictures of the cemetery), I would vote to keep. If it can't be expanded, I'd say probably delete or merge. Acetic Acid 17:49, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. There are dozens of encyclopedic cemeteries already in Wikipedia. See List of cemeteries in the United States.  This should be another one. It can and undoubtedly will be expanded. -- DS1953 17:52, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, notable. Kappa 21:28, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Acetic Acid 21:45, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. As per DS1953. Also note that cemetaries are often listed in traditional encyclopedias due to the notability of persons buried there. As time goes on, we will see more and more cemetary entries due to the notability of such deceased persons. At present, such entries are often the only record on Wikipedia of final resting places of notable persons.--Nicodemus75 22:04, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, we have lots of cemetery articles, this is a rather notable one, with two famous people buried there. It would be nice if it were expanded to include things like size and such.  See also List of cemeteries.  It ''would' be nice if somebody would volunteer to include all of the blue linked articles there into Category:Cemeteries ... :) Zoe 23:17, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * It's not this cemetary that is notable, it's the stiffs buried there, and two is not much. Pilatus 12:01, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Notable enough. —Charles O'Rourke 00:18, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per DS1953. --Apyule 04:02, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
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Games released by Stern Electronics or Stern Pinball.

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Talk:Floyd the Barber

Lyrics?
Can anyone tell me what the actual lyrics to the song "Floyd the Barber" are? I've found that various sources dispute the lyrics, and was wondering if anyone knew the correct ones. Thanks, --User:Kerrysfrench

 * Try here. --jh51681 21:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

The Lyrics to Floyd The Barber are:

Bell on door clank Come on in Floyd observes my Hairy chin Sit down chair Don't be afraid Steamed hot towel On my face

I was shaved

Barney ties me to the chair I can't see I'm Really scared Floyd breaths hard I feel his breath Pee pee taste Against my lips

I'm ashamed

I sense others In the room Opie, Aunt Bee I presume They take turns and cut me up I died smothered in Andy's butt

I was shaved

Volume's Movement section
I think that this section should be deleted unless a specific live version of "Floyd the Barber" can be determined. There is more than one.--Classicrockfan42 (talk) 22:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Only one live version has been officially released, the one from 1/23/88 on With the Lights Out and Sliver: The Best of the Box. --jh51681 (talk) 00:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Just to be sure, I listened to it again on WTLO and the vocals indeed go in and out on that version. --jh51681 (talk) 00:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

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Asius

Asius or Asios may refer to:

 * Asius (mythology), one of two people in Greek mythology
 * Asius of Samos, ancient Greek genealogical poet
 * Asius (wasp), a genus of wasp in the family Cryptinae
 * Asios (beetle), a genus of beetle in the family Carabidae
 * 11554 Asios, an asteroid
 * a member of the ancient Asii tribe

title: Asius


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