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Grant High School (Los Angeles)

Ulysses S. Grant High School  is a public high school located in the Valley Glen neighborhood of Los Angeles, California, United States, in the east central San Fernando Valley. It is located adjacent to Los Angeles Valley College.

It is part of District North 2 of the Los Angeles Unified School District. The school serves several areas, including Valley Glen, much of Sherman Oaks, and sections of both Van Nuys and North Hollywood.

Its mascot is the Lancer and the school colors are brown, orange, and white. The school motto is: "What we are to be we are now becoming."

The school newspaper is called The Odyssey in reference to President Grant's first name - Ulysses - the main character in Homer's epic The Odyssey. There is a school tradition that, on or about April 1, a satirical issue is distributed called the "Oddity", which contains comical and irreverent articles. Past "articles" have been about finals being canceled, the school being closed, rats infesting the cafeteria, clothing-optional P.E. classes, etc.

The school yearbook is called The Shield.

Connected to Grant High School is a communications/technology magnet which emphasizes smaller class sizes and communications technology electives including film/video production, broadcast journalism, computer technology, graphic communications, and performing arts.

History
Grant opened as a high school in September 1959. Grant's original purpose was to serve as a high school for the families of World War II veterans who were moving into the San Fernando Valley. Its first students were baby boomers moving into suburban houses in the Valley.

It was in the Los Angeles City High School District until 1961, when it merged into LAUSD.

Reut Cohen of Neon Tommy, a publication of the Annenberg Media Center, wrote that in the 1970s and 1980s the school was "regarded as an excellent public institution."

In the 1990s there was ethnic tension between the Armenian students and the Hispanic and Latino students. An LAUSD official stated a belief that the tension may have originated from earthquake relief drives held in the 1980s which were meant to benefit Armenia and Mexico. Cohen stated that the ethnic tensions were a major factor in the decline of Grant's reputation in the 1990s.

The tensions exploded on October 21, 1999 when a fight between an Armenian girl and a Latina girl turned into a fight among 200 students. The fight resulted in 40 students being detained and minor injuries being inflicted on 10 students, some teachers, and a maintenance worker. No serious injuries occurred. In January 2000 the students signed a "peace treaty" to prevent future fighting. By February banners were erected which promoted peace. By October of that year there were discussion programs aimed at further reducing tension.

A fight involving almost 500 students occurred on March 8, 2005.

In 2006, Grant was relieved of many 9th and 10th graders by the opening of East Valley High School, which planned to phase in grades 11 and 12 in the following two years.

Ethnic tensions reappeared during an Armenian remembrance event in 2008.

Grant was featured in Newsweek magazine's April 17, 2008 cover story about 25 years of divorce in America; Grant was chosen as a prototypical suburban high school and the article featured members of the class of 1982 and their marital stories.

By 2019, Grant had become "a predominately Armenian school[.]"

Academic and artistic feats
In the late 1960s, a local L.A. television station aired a game show called It's Academic, which featured competition among L.A. area high schools in a quiz show format. Grant won the competition both years that the show was on the air.

In 1977, students at Grant achieved a listing in the Guinness Book of World Records for playing the world's largest musical chairs game (record since broken).

Grant students are also credited with helping to paint one of the largest murals in the world—the Great Wall of Los Angeles—in the Tujunga Wash that lies on the border of the campus. The mural, which depicts southwestern U.S. history from prehistoric times, is 2,754 feet (840 m) making it the longest mural in the United States.

Grant's award-winning Academic Decathlon team placed 11th out of 64 schools in the 2009 regional competition.

In 2018 Grant High School had the highest growth of any high school in the Los Angeles Unified School District in SBAC (Smarter Balanced Assessment California) testing, with an increase of 18 points in the English language arts section and 17 points in the math section.

Small Learning Communities
Grant High School will divide their school into multiple smaller learning communities in order to better create an environment of inclusion and additionally serve students with a curriculum that also includes their interest. Teachers will use techniques that have been tested and proven to be successful in academic success.

The freshman academy is designed to help incoming freshman adapt to the High School environment. The freshman academy will continue its focus on Math, Social Science, Science, English, and PE with methods that will help students better prepare freshman for the next years to come. Not only will they focus on academic preparation but it will also focus on social enhancements with hopes of gaining more student involvement in extra curricular activities.

Sophomore Academy/(Has yet to be determined)

Upper Grade Academies/(Has yet to be determined)

Magnet Programs
College Prep of Digital Arts Magnet at Grant High School is a magnet program within Grant High School that focuses on enhancing college level skills. The program's center of interest is on Advancement placement and Honor level proficiency.

Since the year 1990 Humanities has been a small academy at Grant High School. The purpose of this academy was to build a sensed community and to challenge students academically. In August 2018, Humanitas was newly established as the "Humanities Magnet for Interdisciplinary Studies. The program would remain consistent of its original mission but with new enhancements. Students enrolled in this program will have access to Los Angeles Valley Community College, college courses, that are specifically open to the students in this program. The classes will count towards High School and College classes. In addition, Humanitas students have the ability to go on field trips and participate in school activities that are only accessible to them.

Demographics
In the mid-20th century the school, as a part of the 'Fourth Jewish Ghetto' in Los Angeles, was composed primarily of Jewish students, perhaps as many as 80% of the student body and a similar proportion of the teachers. The tracking program in use revealed that at least 90% of the student body attended college, from local community colleges to Ivies, the majority being awarded scholarships and competitive financial support. At the time, Grant was ranked No. 3 among LA high schools, following Pacific Palisades and University High Schools. Deborah Dash Moore, the author of To the Golden Cities: Pursuing the American Jewish Dream in Miami and L.A., wrote that this made the presence of these Jewish students "more visible than numbers alone would warrant." Grant offered Modern Hebrew classes.

In 1978 the school had over 3,000 students. In 1999 the school had 3,400 students, and there were 3,300 students in 2000. That year the student body was 51% Hispanic and Latino, 36% White, 6% African-American, 4% Asian, and 2% Filipino. Most of the Hispanic and Latino students were Mexican American and many of the Whites were Armenian American. As of 2000 the students originated from 48 countries. As of 2010 65% of the students were Hispanic and Latino, and 20% were Armenian.

The Hispanic and Latino students, as of 2015, often originated from families who migrated from Mexico and Central America and were born in the United States; they prefer to identify by their countries of origin even though they are grouped together as Hispanic and Latino. The Armenian students, as of 2015, originated in a wave of immigration from Armenia and the former Soviet Union that began in the early 1990s.

Culture
In 2000 the socialization point for the Latinos was the south side of the school's quad, while the Armenians socialized in the north side. As of that year, fights between Armenian and Latino students often occurred in October. As of 2000 the common belief at the school was that Latinos wore baggy clothes while Armenians dressed more conservatively.

Film program
Grant has a film program for students either considering a career in that field or with a general interest. Students that have completed his program have earned numerous awards such as certificates, CINE Golden Eagles, trophies and other means of recognition. The students are allowed to freely create stories of their own.

Los Angeles city athletic championships

 * 1964 boys swimming
 * 1965 boys swimming
 * 1974 boys tennis
 * 1975 boys pole vault (Howard Kwasman)
 * 1986 boys baseball
 * 1991 boys golf
 * 1992 boys golf
 * 1993 girls soccer
 * 1994 girls soccer
 * 1996 girls gymnastics
 * 2012 boys pole vault (Martin Lopez)
 * 2022 boys basketball
 * 2023 boys basketball
 * Retired numbers: #13 Rod Beck (baseball), #21 Nevil Vega (baseball), #25 Gilbert Arenas (boys basketball)

Renovations
Due to Grant High School being built in 1959 much of its buildings are outdated. LAUSD has conducted a project proposal that would modernize the school and create space for more students as a result of Los Angeles' rapid growing suburbia. The new plan would start by creating a structure that would better accommodate to students with disabilities under the ADA act. (Americans with disabilities) 41 of Grant's classrooms will be demolished and 31 classes would be rebuilt. 48 classes will be remodeled and 14 of them would remain the same. The library and M&O (maintenance and operations) building will be newly rebuilt. The entire 100 building will be torn down in order to create a newly renovated; career center, health unit, administrative building, and an office for the school police. The sewers, water, utilities will be upgraded in order to create a more sanitary environment. In addition, Grant Hall (Auditorium) will be modernized and the school's landscape will be upgraded.

Notable alumni

 * Davie Allan, instrumental rock guitarist
 * Gilbert Arenas, professional basketball player, NBA All-Star with Washington Wizards
 * Rod Beck, Major League Baseball pitcher 1991-2003, 3-time All-Star
 * David Bender, author, radio broadcaster
 * Barry Carl, former Rockapella band member
 * Mike Curb, Lt. Governor of California from 1979-1983, music producer
 * Bobby Diamond, 1964, child actor and later Los Angeles lawyer
 * Micky Dolenz, actor, musician and drummer of The Monkees
 * John Dolmayan, rock drummer (System Of A Down)
 * Moosie Drier, actor and occasional director
 * Kevin Dubrow, lead singer, co-founder of the rock group Quiet Riot (d. 2007)
 * Ike Eisenmann, actor, producer, sound effects specialist
 * Ruthann Friedman, folk musician
 * Lonn Friend, vice president of A & R for Arista Records
 * Mitch Gaylord, 1984 Olympic gold medal-winning gymnast
 * Jim Gordon, popular session drummer
 * Jeff Green, former editor-in-chief of Games for Windows: The Official Magazine
 * Tom Griffin, Major League Baseball player, 1969–82
 * Joel Grover - Los Angeles Television News Investigative Reporter
 * Melora Hardin, actress, Jan in The Office
 * Cheryl Holdridge, actress, married to Lance Reventlow
 * Craig Hundley, musician and former child actor, now known as Craig Huxley
 * Dan Kalb, City Councilmember, Oakland, CA
 * Gary Knell, National Geographic Society President and Chief Executive Officer
 * Michael Landau, session guitarist
 * Stan Lee (musician) Sobol, guitarist for band The Dickies, formed in 1977, Clown Princes of Punk
 * Minnette Gersh Lenier, teacher of literacy and professional magician
 * Kay Lenz, Emmy Award-winning actress, first wife of David Cassidy
 * Barry Livingston, actor (including Ernie on My Three Sons)
 * Steve Lukather, musician, member of the rock group Toto
 * Larry Magid, technology journalist
 * Bruce Manson, former professional tennis player
 * Megan Marshack, journalist
 * Barry "The Fish" Melton, guitarist and co-founder of the band Country Joe and the Fish
 * Johnette Napolitano, musician, Concrete Blonde
 * Jessie Nelson, filmmaker (Corinna, Corinna, I Am Sam, The Story of Us, Fred Claus)
 * Paul Neubauer, violist of New York Philharmonic and instructor at Juilliard and Mannes College of Music
 * Danny Nucci, actor
 * David Paich, keyboardist, singer, composer and co-founder of the rock group Toto
 * Fran Pavley, California State Senator
 * Jeff Porcaro, drummer, co-founder of the rock group Toto (d. 1992)
 * Mike Porcaro, member of rock group Toto
 * Steve Porcaro, musician, composer, co-founder of rock group Toto
 * Mike Post, composer of music and theme songs for popular TV series
 * Riki Rachtman, television, radio and podcast host
 * Marcia Reed, movie stills photographer
 * Brian Robbins, actor in Head of the Class, director of Norbit "
 * Tom Scott, musician, writer of themes to "Starsky & Hutch", "The Streets of San Francisco", and "Family Ties".
 * Tom Selleck, actor
 * Robert Shields, mime, dance and comedy with Shields and Yarnell
 * Michael Simpson, Grammy Award-winning record producer and composer, one of the "Dust Brothers"
 * Jim Umbarger, Major League Baseball player 1975-78
 * Kim Ung-Yong
 * Joseph Williams, film/TV composer and lead singer in rock group Toto
 * Linda Wolf, photographer

Use as a filming location
Grant High School has been featured in a number of film and television productions. This is due to the long strip of road (known as "Lancer Lane") that runs between the eastern boundary of the school and a scenic greenbelt, walking path, and the Tujunga Wash, and the availability of ample parking—combined with the ease of moving equipment around. Grant High School is also recognized as among the best high schools in the country for its film/video productions made by students of the communications/technology magnet.

Among the professional film and television productions that have utilized Grant High School as a filming location:
 * American Born Chinese - Disney+ Original Series
 * American Vandal - Primary location
 * Balls of Fury - Auditorium and Campus
 * Black-ish
 * 'Clueless' - the film and exterior shots and the television series
 * Crazy, Stupid, Love
 * CSI: Miami
 * Dope
 * 'Euphoria'
 * Foursome - YouTube Red series
 * 'Ferris Bueller'
 * Freaks and Geeks
 * Ghost Whisperer
 * He's All That - Film on Netflix (2021)
 * 'Life Goes On'
 * Malcolm in the Middle
 * Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
 * Mini's First Time - Lifetime Original Movie
 * My Name Is Earl - TV Show on NBC
 * Not Another Teen Movie
 * Power Rangers in Space
 * Power Rangers Turbo
 * Power Rangers Zeo
 * Project UFO - NBC TV Show (1978–79)
 * Quincy, M.E. - NBC TV Show (1976–83)
 * 'Reba'
 * Saved By the Bell - exterior shot
 * 'Seduced By Madness: The Diane Borchardt Story'
 * 'Six Feet Under' - Cable show (interior shots of class rooms)
 * Teen Wolf (TV Series) - TV Show (Seasons 3–6)
 * The 70's House - MTV Reality Show (Dodgeball scene)
 * The Hollow - Movie based on the Legend of Sleepy Hollow
 * 'The Office'
 * The Secret Life of the American Teenager - ABC Family TV Series
 * The United States of Tara - Showtime Series
 * True Blood - HBO Series
 * What Really Happened to the Class of '65? - TV Series
 * Where the Action Is - ABC TV Show (1965–67)
 * 'Who's Your Daddy?' - a direct-to-video feature film
 * With Six You Get Eggroll - 1968 movie starring Doris Day and Brian Keith
 * You Again
 * 'Yours, Mine and Ours'
 * It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia (The Football Field)

Many music videos including:
 * Deftones - "Back to School" (interior and exterior shots)
 * Escape The Fate - "Situations"
 * Hellogoodbye - "Baby It's Fact"
 * N.E.R.D - "Rockstar"
 * Three Doors Down - "Loser" (hallways, teachers lounge, class rooms, and exterior shots)
 * P Diddy - "It's All About the Benjamins" (used gym)
 * Tantric - "Breakdown"
 * The Offspring - "Kristy, Are you doing Okay?"
 * Iggy Azalea - "Fancy"
 * Wheatus - "Teenage Dirtbag"

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Physical Culture

Physical culture was a health and fitness movement from the 19th century.

Physical Culture may also refer to:

 * Physical Culture (Sandow magazine) (1898–1907), a British magazine founded in 1898 by Eugen Sandow, later renamed Sandow's Magazine of Physical Culture
 * Physical Culture (Macfadden magazine) (1899–1951+?), an American magazine founded in 1899 by Bernarr Macfadden

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Talk:Sergei Yesenin

Works
the translation of До свиданья, друг мой is appalling - very inaccurate and completely lacking in the stucture of the original. 212.159.59.5 (talk) 08:10, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is poor translation and not a good representation of his poetry. This should be replaced by something else. My very best wishes (talk) 15:45, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Affairs
''There, he immediately became involved with actress Augusta Miklashevskaya and is believed to have married her in a civil ceremony after obtaining his divorce from Isadora Duncan. Yesenin's affair with Galina Benislavskaya ended tragically: a year after his death she committed suicide at his grave.'' - this needs clarification - there's only this one reference to Galina Benislavskaya = was yesenin's affair with her during his marriage to miklashevskaya? - J. Van Meter
 * The description of his personal life is very poor. My very best wishes (talk) 15:45, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Russian movie
Someone should mention the Russian movie about his life, Esenin. I would, except that I do not know how to edit wikipedia pages.

Galina Benislavskaya was a GPU agent who was asked to "look after" the poet. She loved Esenin and apparently she did a lot to protect him from many dangers (13 criminal cases were initiated against Esenin with mediation of GPU) Esenin didn't enter into her feeling and she was only a dear friend to him. There are different films and documentaries about Esenin. - N.Trofimov

I think that the poster above was probably referring to the 2005 teleserial, there is a link to it from the Russian wikipage for Esenin.
 * Yes, this is good movie, and it certainly should be noted. It features the version that he was killed by NKVD agents (not a majority view by our rules). My very best wishes (talk) 15:45, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Yes, one should definitely include Galina Benislavskaya. As about NKVD, I realize that the episode from the movie when Yakov Blumkin let him go was factual, although this must be properly sourced. My very best wishes (talk) 04:08, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Most Russian Poet Award
The Nyemetskyiev Potemkin Society declared him in 1979 "Most Russian Poet". Due to the Siberianesque and Romunovskiey qualities of his work. Should this be mentioned in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.232.191.16 (talk) 18:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Where did Yesenin meet Duncan?
In the article is written: In the fall of 1921, while visiting the studio of painter Alexei Yakovlev, he met the Paris-based American dancer Isadora Duncan. I'm reading a book of Carola Stern Isadora Duncan und Siergiej Jessenin, Der Dichter und die Tänzerin where it's said that the painter's name was Georgy Yakulow. Pilecka 19:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Redone
This page was very sloppy and unorganized, so I've reorganized a lot of the information and layout. I haven't changed much of the Bio, but I'd taken some irrelevant things out. -CamT undefined 06:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Radunitsa
In 1915, Yesenin published his first book of poems, Radunitsa (Russian: Радуница), soon followed by Ritual for the Dead (1916).

"Radunitsa" / "Радуница" is a Russian festival also known as the Ritual for the Dead. This is one work. Preobrazhenskiy (talk) 05:44, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Date of death
Russian WP article says he died 28 December 1925. We say 27 December. Can we clarify this, please? --  Jack of Oz   [your turn]  21:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Probably a mistake here. My very best wishes (talk) 15:45, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Rating
This was rated b-class, but I've re-rated it start-class. It does not meet the b-class standards as per Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment guidelines. The article is not suitably referenced. The article does not reasonably cover the topic. The article is not "substantial", considering the importance of Yesenin and the number of sources available on him, or referenced, which would be required even for c-class. INeverCry  23:13, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

bad English
Please take the source to somebody who knows its language (Russian, I guess) and English very well. There are problems with grammar, especially definite/indefinite articles, typical since Russian doesn't have them. 100.15.120.162 (talk) 21:12, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

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SFF

SFF can refer to:

Businesses and organizations

 * Science Festival Foundation, organizers of the 2008 World Science Festival
 * Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party, an Australian political party
 * Small Form Factor Committee, an electronics industry group
 * Space Frontier Foundation, an American space advocacy non-profit organization
 * Spiritual Frontiers Fellowship, an American not-for-profit volunteer organization
 * Stone Family Foundation, a charity

Military

 * Special Field Force, a Namibian paramilitary police unit
 * Special Frontier Force, an Indian paramilitary special force

Science and technology

 * Small form factor PC, a desktop computer with minimal volume and footprint
 * Standard flowgram format, a binary file format to encode results of pyrosequencing

Sports

 * Seychelles Football Federation
 * Somali Football Federation

Other uses

 * Sarajevo Film Festival, in Bosnia and Herzegovina
 * Sydney Film Festival, in Australia
 * Felts Field, an airport near Spokane, Washington, U.S., IATA airport code SFF
 * sff, subito fortissimo, a dynamic marking in music

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Navia Nguyen

Navia Nguyen is a Vietnamese American model and entrepreneur. She founded AMO World Bali encompassing AMO Baths, AMO Skin, AMO Spa and AMO Cafe. She was born on Phu Quoc, South Vietnam and raised in New York City.

Rise to Prominence
At the age of 14, photographer Stephan Lupino discovered her, capturing an image that would be featured on the cover of Zoom (magazine). She was quickly signed to Elite Model Management. Nguyen appeared in the 1996 Pirelli Calendar and the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue in 1997. Selected by People Magazine' as the "50 Most Beautiful People", she has modeled for fashion houses like Chanel, Karl Lagerfeld, John Galliano, Fendi, and Christian Dior, as well as American firms such as: GAP and Tommy Hilfiger. She is considered to be the first Asian supermodel.

Personal Life
Nguyen is a mother to her 16-year-old daughter. She splits her time between Dumbo, Brooklyn and Canggu, Bali.

Entrepreneurial Ventures
By 2008, Nguyen had left acting and modeling to create AMO World in Bali.

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Talk:Backsaw

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Just wondering what to do with this page. I've always considered the term backsaw to be a class of saw of which tenon saw and dovetail saw are examples. I have heard some American woodworkers refer to what I would call a tenon saw as a backsaw. Should we make this article more general and refer to it from the tenon/dovetail saw articles, should it be merged with tenon saw, or should it be expanded in parallel to the other two? SilentC 02:04, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * In my experience Canadian/North American usage, the backsaw is used either as a class of saw, or for the larger one generally used in mitre boxes or for cutting large tenons. So I think we need separate articles for different ones like the dovetail and gent's saws. I'm not sure that a tenon saw is any different from a backsaw, though. Maybe backsaw and tenon saw should be merged. Luigizanasi 18:16, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I have re-done backsaw as a separate article from the others but it is hard to see that there is much to be said about say, a dovetail saw which is different from that for a tenon saw and not covered by backsaw or by the articles on the joints concerned. It might be sensible to give Luigizanasi's observation as well as tenon saw etc. a paragraph each in Backsaw and redirect the specialist saw names to there. Backsaw would then provide a useful link for mitre box, bench hook, marking knife etc.
 * By the way, I have recently come across a reference to a back saw called a sash saw. It was smaller than a tenon saw and used in making windows. Has anyone here used one? This is not an example of the calling of a frame saw a 'sash saw'.(RJP 21:16, 3 September 2005 (UTC))

 * Good job on the article. On further reflection, I agree with you that we probably don't need articles on the dovetail saw, gent's saw, etc. I will be bold and merge and redirect the dovetail and tenon saw articles into this one.
 * On the sash saw, I found this reference: from the Society of American Period Furniture Makers web site. No I have never used one and I thought it was a large frame saw used in sawmilling.Luigizanasi 04:21, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Done. Dovetail, tenon, gent's saw & dozuki all redirect here now.Luigizanasi 05:54, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

but for most you can not find the thing to say goodbye to your finger. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.171.199.10 (talk) 01:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

=Backsaw vs. Tenon Saw= In Australia, the term backsaw is hardly ever used. It is much more common to call this type of saw generically a tenon saw. People in the know would then distinguish a dovetail saw. The only time we hear backsaw is when watching New Yankee Workshop ;) SilentC 23:12, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Since when does Norm use hand tools? ;-) Maybe you should mention that (the Australian usage) at the beginning of the article. I think that it's important that all names for the same tool or technique get documented. I understand that the British usage is the same as the North American one, but the Oz one should also be mentioned. Names are so variable, not only among countries/continents, but also between different region. For example, the keyhole saw talks about what I have always called a "dry wall saw". To me, a keyhole saw has a pistol grip and is much longer, but I've also seen it referred to as a "compass saw". Luigizanasi 02:52, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I just changed it so that instead of 'most often just backsaw' it says 'often just backsaw'. I don't really have any evidence that we use 'tenon saw' more or less exclusively here, it has just been my experience. Catalogues, Australian woodworking magazines and so on seem to support this. However I think most Australian woodworkers would understand what was meant by backsaw.

 * Yes, it is difficult to be exact with these things. It also seems to vary between generations. We can't be all things to all people I suppose. How does Wikipedia handle this type of thing generally? I can imagine there would have been some colourful exchanges over different things. Fanny springs to mind :D SilentC 06:27, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * As I think this is a question of more general interest, I have responded on the project page (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Woodworking.Luigizanasi 07:26, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

=Dozuki Spelling= Being somewhat of a newbie, would just like to clear up why we use the spelling Dōzuki instead of Dozuki. The ō character does not exist in the English language, so is this a policy like the pinyin thing I read about recently? It seems to resolve OK in searches but if you search for "Dozuki", although it gets a hit on the Japanese saw page, if you search for it within the page it is not found. I suppose my point is that this is the English wiki, so is there a reason we need to do it this way? SilentC 07:04, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Some people get really anal about these things, and as a Canadian we get subjected a lot to it. You should have seen the discussion at the Montreal portal (Portal:Montreal/Discussions/English Names. Personally what I think is important is that people be able to find stuff, so I would avoid the accents/diacritics.Luigizanasi 06:44, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * There's a Wikipedia policy on how to write Japanese words, so if it is being used in a Japanese context, the macron is better. On the other hand, "dozuki" is now actually an English word, so the no-macron form is OK. You can remove it if you want to. Actually the capital letter in "Dozuki" is more in need of change. On the page Japanese saw, it would be definitely be better to use the macron since it's specifically about a Japanese thing. --DannyWilde 06:54, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * OK I used a highly technical and scientific process to resolve the issue. I searched in Google for 'dozuki' and again for 'dōzuki'. I got 12,000+ hits for the former and three for the latter, none of which were related to the saw! SilentC 22:10, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

=Is the Dozuki a backsaw?= In my original version, I said that the Dozuki shares similarities with the backsaw. Luigi changed that to "the Dozuki is a type of backsaw". I'm now wondering if this is correct. I know it fits the classification but does the term backsaw also imply a group of western saws? I didn't change it because I'm uncertain. SilentC 22:45, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it is a back saw (i.e. a saw having a back) and it is used in the same way, but I am not patrticularly hung up about it. So if you want to change it or add qualifications, go for it.Luigizanasi 06:46, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Just added a bit so that it's clear the saw has a different ancestry. I suppose most people would have understood that from the japanese saw link but I like to apply the LCD principle. SilentC 22:10, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

 * A Dozuki is certainly a backsaw. The term Backsaw implies only that the blade has a stiffening rib.

 * This being the case, why do you keep removing "The Japanese Dozuki is a type of backsaw." from the article? If you're going to be a regular contributor, how about creating a login and joining the Woodworking project? SilentC 21:23, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I've removed that line because it doesn't help the flow of the article in any way. It adds no information, and there's no more reason to have that sentence about the Dozuki, than there would be for any of the other types of backsaws.
 * The very good reason is because, unlike all of the other saws in the article, the Dozuki is a Japanese saw and it might therefore be of interest to readers to know that the Dozuki is also a type of backsaw, despite it's separate heritage. It is also there as a counterpoint to the sentence concerning the Roman origin of the backsaw. Back it goes. One more and we'll have to get independant arbitration on it.SilentC 21:17, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

=Backsaw as 'one of a class of handsaws'= I've reverted some of the changes made by 67.170.224.208 because I feel that it changed the whole slant of the article, which was to define the term 'backsaw' as a generic term for a group of saws having similar characteristics. The part of the article that discussed this concept was removed and so I have put it back. SilentC 05:21, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your claim that I changed the whole "slant" of the article. My version made it just as clear that "backsaw" is a generic term covering the subtypes described below, and I had added substantially to the text.
 * Your wording 'the backsaw is one of a class of woodworking saws' implied that there is a class of saws to which the backsaw belongs and that it is a single representative of the class. This is not correct, except perhaps in the US where they use the term 'backsaw' when others would say 'tenon saw'. It also contradicted the next section of the article which goes on to describe a class of saws. This article was changed quite a bit a couple of months ago to reflect the fact that 'backsaw' is in fact a generic term for a class of saws itself - the original reflected the US usage only. Your new wording is better. Whether it is better than the original or not is subject for debate but I don't have any problem with it per se. SilentC 21:20, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

=Removing mention of Dozuki from article intro= 67.170.224.208 has removed the phrase "The Japanese Dozuki is a type of backsaw." a number of times now. Could you please state your objections to the inclusion of the phrase? My reason for wishing to retain it is that it undoubtedly has a different heritage to the rest of the backsaws and is unlikely to have been evolved from the Roman example. SilentC 22:37, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

=Carcass saw?= I was surprised to find no mention of carcass saws. Veritas makes them, among other people, and classes it as a backsaw intermediate in size between a dovetail saw and a tenon saw. Any thoughts about whether it should be included? Was it left out for a good reason that is eluding me? MJM74 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:11, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

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I have recently started posting on wikipedia on occassion as a form of public service and scholarship. I have learned much from the wiki. I'm always surprised by the large gap in quality between articles. Some articles are of exceedingly high, publishable quality. Others are like high school book reports, or worse, transcripts of 101 classes taught using the socratic method. I tend to focus on the latter, as I haven't received my doctorate yet ;). If you want to contact me, use the 'email this user link' at the bottom. --Alecke1 02:05, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

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Intrinsically photosensitive retinal ganglion cell

Intrinsically photosensitive retinal ganglion cells (ipRGCs), also called photosensitive retinal ganglion cells (pRGC), or melanopsin-containing retinal ganglion cells (mRGCs), are a type of neuron in the retina of the mammalian eye. The presence of an additional photoreceptor was first suspected in 1927 when mice lacking rods and cones still responded to changing light levels through pupil constriction; this suggested that rods and cones are not the only light-sensitive tissue. However, it was unclear whether this light sensitivity arose from an additional retinal photoreceptor or elsewhere in the body. Recent research has shown that these retinal ganglion cells, unlike other retinal ganglion cells, are intrinsically photosensitive due to the presence of melanopsin, a light-sensitive protein. Therefore, they constitute a third class of photoreceptors, in addition to rod and cone cells.

Overview
Compared to the rods and cones, the ipRGCs respond more sluggishly and signal the presence of light over the long term. They represent a very small subset (~1%) of the retinal ganglion cells. Their functional roles are non-image-forming and fundamentally different from those of pattern vision; they provide a stable representation of ambient light intensity. They have at least three primary functions:
 * They play a major role in synchronizing circadian rhythms to the 24-hour light/dark cycle, providing primarily length-of-day and length-of-night information. They send light information via the retinohypothalamic tract (RHT) directly to the circadian pacemaker of the brain, the suprachiasmatic nucleus of the hypothalamus. The physiological properties of these ganglion cells match known properties of the daily light entrainment (synchronization) mechanism regulating circadian rhythms. In addition, ipRGCs could also influence peripheral tissues such as the hair follicle regeneration through SCN-sympathetic nerve circuit.
 * Photosensitive ganglion cells innervate other brain targets, such as the center of pupillary control, the olivary pretectal nucleus of the midbrain. They contribute to the regulation of pupil size and other behavioral responses to ambient lighting conditions.
 * They contribute to photic regulation and acute photic suppression of release of the hormone melatonin.
 * In rats, they play some role in conscious visual perception, including perception of regular gratings, light levels, and spatial information.

Photoreceptive ganglion cells have been isolated in humans, where, in addition to regulating the circadian rhythm, they have been shown to mediate a degree of light recognition in rodless, coneless subjects suffering with disorders of rod and cone photoreceptors. Work by Farhan H. Zaidi and colleagues showed that photoreceptive ganglion cells may have some visual function in humans.

The photopigment of photoreceptive ganglion cells, melanopsin, is excited by light mainly in the blue portion of the visible spectrum (absorption peaks at ~480 nanometers ). The phototransduction mechanism in these cells is not fully understood, but seems likely to resemble that in invertebrate rhabdomeric photoreceptors. In addition to responding directly to light, these cells may receive excitatory and inhibitory influences from rods and cones by way of synaptic connections in the retina.

The axons from these ganglia innervate regions of the brain related to object recognition, including the superior colliculus and dorsal lateral geniculate nucleus.

ipRGC receptor
These photoreceptor cells project both throughout the retina and into the brain. They contain the photopigment melanopsin in varying quantities along the cell membrane, including on the axons up to the optic disc, the soma, and dendrites of the cell. ipRGCs contain membrane receptors for the neurotransmitters glutamate, glycine, and GABA. Photosensitive ganglion cells respond to light by depolarizing, thus increasing the rate at which they fire nerve impulses, which is opposite to that of other photoreceptor cells, which hyperpolarize in response to light.

Results of studies in mice suggest that the axons of ipRGCs are unmyelinated.

Melanopsin
Unlike other photoreceptor pigments, melanopsin has the ability to act as both the excitable photopigment and as a photoisomerase. Unlike the visual opsins in rod cells and cone cells, which rely on the standard visual cycles for recharging all-trans-retinal back into the photosensitive 11-cis-retinal, melanopsin is able to isomerize all-trans-retinal into 11-cis-retinal itself when stimulated with another photon. An ipRGC therefore does not rely on Müller cells and/or retinal pigment epithelium cells for this conversion.

The two isoforms of melanopsin differ in their spectral sensitivity, for the 11-cis-retinal isoform is more responsive to shorter wavelengths of light, while the all-trans isoform is more responsive to longer wavelengths of light.

Inputs
ipRGCs are both pre- and postsynaptic to dopaminergic amacrine cells (DA cells) via reciprocal synapses, with ipRGCs sending excitatory signals to the DA cells, and the DA cells sending inhibitory signals to the ipRGCs. These inhibitory signals are mediated through GABA, which is co-released from the DA cells along with dopamine. Dopamine has functions in the light-adaptation process by up-regulating melanopsin transcription in ipRGCs and thus increasing the photoreceptor's sensitivity. In parallel with the DA amacrine cell inhibition, somatostatin-releasing amacrine cells, themselves inhibited by DA amacrine cells, inhibit ipRGCs. Other synaptic inputs to ipRGC dendrites include cone bipolar cells and rod bipolar cells.

Outputs
One postsynaptic target of ipRGCs is the suprachiasmatic nucleus (SCN) of the hypothalamus, which serves as the circadian clock in an organism. ipRGCs release both pituitary adenylyl cyclase-activating protein (PACAP) and glutamate onto the SCN via a monosynaptic connection called the retinohypothalamic tract (RHT). Glutamate has an excitatory effect on SCN neurons, and PACAP appears to enhance the effects of glutamate in the hypothalamus.

Other post synaptic targets of ipRGCs include: the intergenticulate leaflet (IGL), a cluster of neurons located in the thalamus, which play a role in circadian entrainment; the olivary pretectal nucleus (OPN), a cluster of neurons in the midbrain that controls the pupillary light reflex; the ventrolateral preoptic nucleus (VLPO), located in the hypothalamus and is a control center for sleep; the amygdala.

Pupillary light reflex
Using various photoreceptor knockout mice, researchers have identified the role of ipRGCs in both the transient and sustained signaling of the pupillary light reflex (PLR). Transient PLR occurs at dim to moderate light intensities and is a result of phototransduction occurring in rod cells, which provide synaptic input onto ipRGCs, which in turn relay the information to the olivary pretectal nucleus in the midbrain. The neurotransmitter involved in the relay of information to the midbrain from the ipRGCs in the transient PLR is glutamate. At brighter light intensities the sustained PLR occurs, which involves both phototransduction of the rod providing input to the ipRGCs and phototransduction of the ipRGCs themselves via melanopsin. Researchers have suggested that the role of melanopsin in the sustained PLR is due to its lack of adaptation to light stimuli in contrast to rod cells, which exhibit adaptation. The sustained PLR is maintained by PACAP release from ipRGCs in a pulsatile manner.

Possible role in conscious sight
Experiments with rodless, coneless humans allowed another possible role for the receptor to be studied. In 2007, a new role was found for the photoreceptive ganglion cell. Zaidi and colleagues showed that in humans the retinal ganglion cell photoreceptor contributes to conscious sight as well as to non-image-forming functions like circadian rhythms, behaviour and pupillary reactions. Since these cells respond mostly to blue light, it has been suggested that they have a role in mesopic vision and that the old theory of a purely duplex retina with rod (dark) and cone (light) light vision was simplistic. Zaidi and colleagues' work with rodless, coneless human subjects hence has also opened the door into image-forming (visual) roles for the ganglion cell photoreceptor.

The discovery that there are parallel pathways for vision was made: one classic rod- and cone-based arising from the outer retina, the other a rudimentary visual brightness detector arising from the inner retina. The latter seems to be activated by light before the former. Classic photoreceptors also feed into the novel photoreceptor system, and colour constancy may be an important role as suggested by Foster.

It has been suggested by the authors of the rodless, coneless human model that the receptor could be instrumental in understanding many diseases, including major causes of blindness worldwide such as glaucoma, a disease which affects ganglion cells.

In other mammals, photosensitive ganglia have proven to have a genuine role in conscious vision. Tests conducted by Jennifer Ecker et al. found that rats lacking rods and cones were able to learn to swim toward sequences of vertical bars rather than an equally luminescent gray screen.

Violet-to-blue light
Most work suggests that the peak spectral sensitivity of the receptor is between 460 and 484 nm. Lockley et al. in 2003 showed that 460 nm (blue) wavelengths of light suppress melatonin twice as much as 555 nm (green) light, the peak sensitivity of the photopic visual system. In work by Zaidi, Lockley and co-authors using a rodless, coneless human, it was found that a very intense 481 nm stimulus led to some conscious light perception, meaning that some rudimentary vision was realized.

Discovery
In 1923, Clyde E. Keeler observed that the pupils in the eyes of blind mice he had accidentally bred still responded to light. The ability of the rodless, coneless mice to retain a pupillary light reflex was suggestive of an additional photoreceptor cell.

In the 1980s, research in rod- and cone-deficient rats showed regulation of dopamine in the retina, a known neuromodulator for light adaptation and photoentrainment.

Research continued in 1991, when Russell G. Foster and colleagues, including Ignacio Provencio, showed that rods and cones were not necessary for photoentrainment, the visual drive of the circadian rhythm, nor for the regulation of melatonin secretion from the pineal gland, via rod- and cone-knockout mice. Later work by Provencio and colleagues showed that this photoresponse was mediated by the photopigment melanopsin, present in the ganglion cell layer of the retina.

The photoreceptors were identified in 2002 by Samer Hattar, David Berson and colleagues, where they were shown to be melanopsin expressing ganglion cells that possessed an intrinsic light response and projected to a number of brain areas involved in non-image-forming vision.

In 2005, Panda, Melyan, Qiu, and colleagues demonstrated that the melanopsin photopigment was the phototransduction pigment in ganglion cells. Dennis Dacey and colleagues showed in a species of Old World monkey that giant ganglion cells expressing melanopsin projected to the lateral geniculate nucleus (LGN). Previously only projections to the midbrain (pre-tectal nucleus) and hypothalamus (supra-chiasmatic nuclei, SCN) had been shown. However, a visual role for the receptor was still unsuspected and unproven.

Research in humans
Attempts were made to hunt down the receptor in humans, but humans posed special challenges and demanded a new model. Unlike in other animals, researchers could not ethically induce rod and cone loss either genetically or with chemicals so as to directly study the ganglion cells. For many years, only inferences could be drawn about the receptor in humans, though these were at times pertinent.

In 2007, Zaidi and colleagues published their work on rodless, coneless humans, showing that these people retain normal responses to nonvisual effects of light. The identity of the non-rod, non-cone photoreceptor in humans was found to be a ganglion cell in the inner retina as shown previously in rodless, coneless models in some other mammals. The work was done using patients with rare diseases that wiped out classic rod and cone photoreceptor function but preserved ganglion cell function. Despite having no rods or cones, the patients continued to exhibit circadian photoentrainment, circadian behavioural patterns, melatonin suppression, and pupil reactions, with peak spectral sensitivities to environmental and experimental light that match the melanopsin photopigment. Their brains could also associate vision with light of this frequency. Clinicians and scientists are now seeking to understand the new receptor's role in human diseases and blindness. Intrinsically photosensitive RGCs have also been implicated in the exacerbation of headache by light during migraine attacks.


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The result of the debate was delete. Woohookitty 11:21, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Tsamaidis
Short article on a surname, no notable examples given, nothing of note to be found on the web. See Talk:Tsamaidis for a note I have placed there. BillC 02:07, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a genealogy database. Pburka 03:22, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. As per above. Cnwb 04:21, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Dottore So 13:05, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
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 * Delete As per above... Roodog2k 00:15, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
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I have a background in Electrical & Electronic Engineering

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Wikipedia:Pages for deletion/WikiProject Wikipedians for Jimbo's beard

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The result of the debate was DISCUSSION MOVED, just closing for completeness. -Splash 01:45, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Wikipedians for Jimbo's beard
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Joana, Princess of Beira

Joana, Princess of Beira (18 September 1635 – 17 November 1653; ; Joan) was a Portuguese infanta (princess), and the eldest surviving daughter of John IV, King of Portugal (the first of the House of Braganza) and his wife Luisa de Guzmán.

Life
Joana was born in Vila Viçosa on 18 September 1635. Her father created her Princess of Beira, a title subsequently used by the eldest daughter of the monarch. She died unmarried in Lisbon at the age of 18 on 17 November 1653. She was first buried at the Jerónimos Monastery and then moved to the Monastery of São Vicente de Fora.

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Walt Disney (disambiguation)

Walt Disney (1901–1966) was a filmmaker and co-founder of the entertainment empire bearing his name.

Walt Disney may also refer to:
 * Walt Disney (film), the 2015 documentary that aired on American Experience
 * The Walt Disney Company, an American diversified multinational mass media and entertainment corporation
 * Walt Disney Pictures, a film studio
 * Walt Disney Animation Studios, an animation film studio
 * Walt Disney, a Walt Disney anthology television series from 1981 to 1983
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Talk:Kelso Multimodal Transportation Center

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I apologize if I made an error in renaming this article. "Kelso-Longview (Amtrak station)" was on the wikify list and while searching for external references discovered that almost no one referred to it by that name. It is my understanding that the title should use the most common name, so I moved it.

I don't object to returning it to the original location, if that's more correct.--andersonpd 02:11, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Nothing wrong with the current location - it's just the way it was moved. See Help:Renaming (moving) a page. --SPUI (talk) 03:39, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Right ho -- I had read the page and thought I'd done it properly. I'll be more careful in future.--andersonpd 04:27, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Do you have some source for passenger traffic being in decline? Cascades traffic has been steadily increasing. --Bensch 20:23, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed that unless there is some source, this sentence should be removed. Ahockley 17:04, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I changed the reference of Victoria, BC, to Vancouver, BC, as the Amtrak Cascades do not go onto Vancouver Island. However, although the service beween Vancouver, BC and Seattle, WA is called Cascades, and the service between Seattle, Portland, and Eugene is also so named, trains that run between Vancouver and Seattle do not continue to or from the south, nor are the trains timed so that one can continue a journey by train. If one wishes to go from Kelso to Vancouver, BC, he or she must either spend a night in Seattle or make part of the journey by bus. 71.131.246.126 18:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Gallery
My removal of the gallery from this article wasn't inadvertent; per WP:Galleries image galleries are discouraged unless there's some specific reason to have one. A gallery consisting of a single image showing the station building doesn't in my view meet that standard, and the reader is one click away from the image gallery on Wikimedia Commons. Mackensen (talk) 22:34, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Hello Mackensen. I do agree one photo is a bit of a stretch.  I will move the photo to be included inside the article.  If this does not satisfy, please let me know.  Ks03 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 05:22, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Wayne Smith (Australian politician)

Wayne Douglas Smith (born 4 November 1952) was an Australian politician. He was a Labor Party member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly from 1999 to 2003, representing the electorate of South Coast. He was the only incumbent ALP member to lose his seat at the 2003 state election.

Smith was born in Newcastle and educated at Birrong Boys High School. He received a B.Sc. and a Dip.Ed from the University of Sydney. Smith trained as a teacher, and was working at Vincentia High School when he decided to contest ALP pre-selection for the Liberal-held state seat of South Coast. Though he had a low profile in the community, he ultimately won a narrow victory amidst the backdrop of a major statewide win for the ALP. In parliament, Smith was a relatively low-profile backbencher, and frequently clashed with the Liberal member for the corresponding federal electorate, the popular Joanna Gash. He was challenged by teacher and former Shoalhaven councillor Shelley Hancock at the 2003 election, and while polls initially predicted a Smith victory, Hancock went on to win by more than 1500 votes. Smith has since relocated to Sydney.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gleneagle Secondary School

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Woohookitty 11:41, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Gleneagle Secondary School
Orphan School with virtually no little possibility of growing beyond what it is now. Delete. Alr 02:17, 29 August 2005 (UTC) Weak keep. This whole schools thing is just rediculous, IMHO. Alr 14:07, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You are in BIIIIG trouble, AlR - here they come! Denni ☯ 02:33, 2005 August 29 (UTC)
 * What did I do? This one, unlike most, is an orphan. Alr 02:36, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * There's been a lot of previous debate over schools (see Schools). Many have been VfD'd in the past, but most were kept. Jaxl | talk 03:40, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of the problem with schools. If someone de-orphaned the article, I might be enclined to change my vote. Alr 03:43, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, I'd place it in a sub-list in List of schools in Canada myself, but it only has a list for schools starting with "A". Maybe just place it in the main list for now? Jaxl | talk 03:53, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * It's been listed alongside another school in the same district, School district 43, British Columbia. Wikipedia is slowly but surely expanding its schools coverage and sometimes you can see the dots join up like this. --Tony Sidaway Talk 21:14, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep all high schools. Pburka 03:21, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, doesn't indicate notability. Gazpacho 01:39, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete No indication of notability. DES (talk) 04:20, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Schools/Arguments, etc., etc... -- DS1953 04:32, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but 10 days ain't bad. Christopher Parham (talk) 05:14, 2005 August 29 (UTC)
 * Delete per Schools/Arguments Denni ☯ 05:21, 2005 August 29 (UTC)
 * Clear delete. See also Schools/Arguments-- Encephalon |  ζ   07:09:02, 2005-08-29 (UTC)
 * Keep, no longer an orphan. Kappa 07:17, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Deleting a school? Trollderella 07:49, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Schools/Arguments Pilatus 08:54, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Four walls and a roof is not encyclopaedic.  Wikipedia is not an indiscrimnate collection of information. Proto t c 11:19, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, Proto is quite right. james gibbon  11:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * ''' Agree with Proto, above. Delete. Dottore So 13:10, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete how very dull. Dunc|☺ 13:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I thought we'd got over this nonsense.Osomec 13:40, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Kappa. Jaxl | talk 14:55, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:Schools Arguments to Delete. - brenneman (t) (c)  15:02, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. You want to delete a school for orphans. Man! Have you no heart? Sdedeo 16:42, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You read wrong. It's just a standard public school - but the page was an orphan. I probably should have made that more clear. Alr 20:52, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. If we keep articles on schools, next people will be writing articles on roads and rocks.  Oh, wait... Gamaliel 17:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. This box-of-students at least won a competition for being environmentally friendly, and I can't, offhand, think of many that have. -Splash 18:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per User:Soltak/Views Soltak | Talk 18:59, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep All public orgs are entitled to an entry, especially if they have distinguished themselves in some way - however minor. Shropshire Lad 19:11, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Soltak. His views are quite well-written, by the way; I encourage all users to read them. --Idont Havaname 19:35, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge to a sensible topic (such as Schools in British Columbia - they're all the same, any minor differences can be mentioned as EXAMPLES. ) Does not warrant own article. (Note to closer do not count as keep.) --TimPope 19:43, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, as usual.--Scimitar parley 19:43, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Schools are notable Guerberj 19:51, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Some schools are noteable, most High Schools are not. This one isn't. --Outlander 20:49, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is the first school deletion listing in eleven days. I was beginning to worry. --Tony Sidaway Talk  21:16, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep WP is not Jenga, all school's are notable each and every one. Klonimus 21:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Jachin 21:53, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment for those who came in late, statistics on school article deletion listings since May 1: Nominated: 164; deleted: 4; pending: 1 6. There may be slight differences with other people's tallies depending on how you define a "school" article, but this is for those articles which were placed on the Schoolwatch page and logged in the archives. --Tony Sidaway Talk  00:52, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * And the point of this comment is what? Denni ☯ 02:17, 2005 August 30 (UTC)
 * To convince those attempting to persuade Wikipedia to delete school articles that they could spend their efforts more profitably on something more worthwhile--such as building an encyclopedia. --Tony Sidaway Talk 04:43, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Then it might have been a better idea to say just that. As it stands, it might be construed as a lecture for being naughty for suggesting such a delete, an attempt to subtly intimidate, or a little bit of the old na na na na boo boo . You should know that in VfD it is of especial importance to say what you mean. More to the point, what is it about suggesting the deletion of yetanother same old same old school that makes one =not= building an encyclopedia. Some of us see it as important that each entry should be judged on its own merits and should possess some degree of notability, not knee-jerked in because, oh, it's another school/mall/road/whatever. Denni ☯ 01:53, 2005 August 31 (UTC)
 * I suppose my comment could be interpreted as an attempt to dissect the Gettysburg address, but I don't take that suggestion any more seriously than I take the suggestion that it can be read as an attempt to lecture anyone for being naughty (it's addressed at those who don't know the history), and I can only regard with extreme skepticism the idea that giving accurate, neutral factual information can legitimately be interpreted as an attempt to intimidate. It sounds like sour grapes. This article will be kept, most likely with a majority against deletion.  This will not be an extraordinary occurrence. --Tony Sidaway Talk  22:25, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I reverted this change by User:TimPope. Feel free to disagree.   —RaD Man (talk) 08:18, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * It could/should be pointed out that the vast majority of the 'keep' votes Tony cites above were actually 'no consensus' votes. Proto t c 15:49, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. But what they were not was deletions.  We don't delete articles unless there is a consensus to delete them.  Actually the discussion on this school article seems to be running with a slight majority for keep, which demonstrates how difficult it is to persuade Wikipipedia to delete school articles. --Tony Sidaway Talk  22:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but it needs some work. Mindmatrix 01:10, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, Highschools are notable for the most part.Gateman1997 01:20, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. More of the drive to drown Wikipedia in worthless trivia. --Calton | Talk 02:35, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Why would anyone want to "drown wikipedia in useless trivia"? Kappa 08:49, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: Non-notable. Sunray 03:09, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, obviously. —RaD Man (talk) 05:20, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * D. NN. Radiant_ >|< 08:45, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - Easy, obvious, and clear. Only reason for removal is if one wishes to delete most articles on high schools.  School articles give worthwhile information about the education system, that is not provided elsewhere.   --rob 09:32, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I see no reason to delete it. --Andylkl (talk) 10:33, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete seems to be full of dull padding to make it into an article.--K URANDO 12:30, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, other than there being little informaion at present, what reason or deletion is there? There is wide scope for additions by someone who knows more about the school. Evil Eye 14:45, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * keep please evil eye is right anyways Yuckfoo 16:43, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is a school.  And here I had thought we were past this and the deletionists had given up and gone home. --Nicodemus75 22:48, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep The number of school articles is well into four figures. Picking on one is pointless. CalJW 22:56, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Following that logic, there are so many murderers in the world holding a long drawn-out trial just for one just doesn't seem fair. Soltak | Talk 22:59, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * That's right kids, secondary schools are just as evil as cold blooded murderers. —RaD Man (talk) 01:06, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * weak keep Roodog2k 00:16, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nothing to see here, move along. CDThieme 01:00, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete notability not established. Hamster Sandwich 21:27, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep this good faith addition of good content from a welcome Wikipedia editor. Schools are notable enough topics for articles.   Un  focused  18:53, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
 * keep, borderline notability. 24 at 19:05, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable secondary school. Quale 19:23, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
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