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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WikiFur (1st nomination)

 This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:59, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

WikiFur
Non-notable Wikicities site. Zoe 05:51, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Sticking with delete. I thought it might have been a borderline speedy and so I asked Zoe to take a peek and undelete it if necessary. - Lucky 6.9 05:55, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Furry Delete, sorry. feydey 13:03, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Fastest-growing wikicity at the moment, part of Wikimedia, recent target of en masse Something Awful/Encyclopedia Dramatica vandalism.  Almafeta 06:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, page was put up for VfD less than an hour after the initial stub's creation. Isn't that bad form?  Almafeta 06:50, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Non-notability is non-notability. Doesn't matter how fast it's created.  And how do you quantify the growth of Wikicity projects?  Zoe 06:51, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Timeliness is timeliness. And you can quantify it by noting that it's in the upper 25% of all wikicities organized by database size, despite it having existed for about two weeks.  (Also note that the statistics used there was from the 15th, before Wikifur hit its current 100-article-a-day trend.)  Besides, when aren't Wikimedia/Wikicity projects notable?  Almafeta 07:00, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * So you want an article on every Wikicity project? Anybody can create a Wikicity project, there are no limits.  Zoe 07:08, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
 * Even if there were no limits (2) (3}, not everyone has created a Wikicity. It's a limited category, with a limited rate of growth.  Almafeta 07:17, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Does not appear to meet the proposed standards for website inclusion.  Possibly merge into Wikicities.  -- Visviva 02:05, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge - I'm a contributor on WikiFur and even I say this for now. I vote for merge on to the list of popular Wikicities once the statistics for the second half of August come in shortly to confirm current prediction over its popularity. And only if we at least meet the proposed guidelines do we try for another true WP article. -Nidonocu 02:56, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even if this manages to reach the WP standards, I see no evidence the article will become a useful work of reference rather than a description of the contents or structure of the site per WP:WEB.  Noteability isn't the only criterion laid out there. — Lomn | Talk / RfC 03:17:02, 2005-08-24 (UTC)
 * Merge - Certainly growing fast enough to be at least notable. Possibly more useful merged into either Wikicities or as a link on one of the Furry articles, at least until it's more prominent. Also may be useful for directing articles that are too specialised or unsuited to be included on the Wikipedia. --Composingliger 10:45, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge - Merge into the Wikicities page, especially if the statistics confirm the current trend. Poofyspikes 15:20, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and don't merge. Our stats are down at the moment, so we don't know that this is the "fastest-growing Wikicity". The site is not part of Wikimedia (see What Wikicities is not), and the "en masse vandalism" lasted all of 2 days and wasn't that severe (just a few extra admins were needed). There are over 500 Wikicities and I don't think any with the exception of the largest (Star Wars) is notable enough for an article (yet). Not everyone can have a Wikicity, but we are adding a few new ones every day now, so having articles on all of them would obviously be inappropriate. This wiki is far too new to judge its notability and other than a one-off mention in Something Awful, it's not really known externally. It would not be useful to merge this into Wikicities, else users of every other Wikicity are going to want to start writing about themselves on that page, despite not being notable. We have a List of Wikicities on the Wikicities site and keeping a less up-to-date version at Wikipedia isn't useful, especially not as part of the Wikicities article. Angela 01:55, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong don't keep - I actually help out on wikifur, and I do not feel it is notable. This article is also way too short, even for a stub, and it reads like an advertisement. At this length, it could be shortened and merged as an external link into a furry article. I don't see a problem with just redirecting it to furry, and adding the external link. Why do we even need VFD for this? This vote was intentionally ambiguous, and I trust it will not be considered a straight delete vote. I just don't feel it should be kept. --Phroziac (talk) 01:58, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Find some list of furry websites or some topical article to note it on and delete. -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 02:03, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and do not merge (for now) I am the founder of WikiFur, having created it because I believed that Wikipedia was not the right place for many furry topics. I believe WikiFur will eventually be significant enough for inclusion on Wikicities due to popularity/size, and possibly for an entry on Wikipedia in its own right. I agree with Angela that this is not and cannot be proven at this time. 10000 edits in one month is promising, but not convincing. At the point where it meets generally accepted criteria for inclusion I will be happy to support the creation of a good non-stub article about WikiFur, and possibly contribute to it myself (yes, I'll be careful with that :-), but not at this time. I thank those that have spoken in support of it, despite not agreeing with you! *grin* GreenReaper 03:23, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - FURRIES SUCK
 * Please see WP:DICK, and sign discussion pages, such as this, with ~ --Phroziac (talk) 22:34, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Merge Elfguy 22:09, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Closure request

As six days have passed, and those related to the topic have had their say, I would like to request closure of this vote by a clearing admin based on the above votes. GreenReaper 03:27, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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User:Imrann

Also known as Imurann or nnarumi (over the Internet) as a Malaysian graduated student in IT, currently working as a Network System Engineer (2014), whom loves Music, Gardening, Islamic Gardens and Architecture, Islamic Fashion, Computers Games and Anime. Currently aged of 30 on November 2014.

Style of studies/ personality/ writings:

 * Random Transmitted Knowleadge based on trust and guidance from Allah taala
 * An Islamic thinker, not as proactive but willing to share ideas openly
 * Technological, futurist, unbiased style of argument
 * "A bold character." by Sheikh R.Ibrahim (Previously was a student of the Sheikh, in pursuit of the goal of understanding Islam at a much advanced level. Relationship went sour when engagement with Sheikh's daughter went south due to accumulated misunderstandings)
 * "Your writings frequency is alike Franz Kafka." said Prof R.Gani CMIWS, Franz Kafka is a jewish short story writer whom isn't famous up until his death. His writings changed the future of a partial Jewish culture.

Active Projects
1. Advanced Islamic Studies

This site is used for the soul purpose of enhancing our knowledge to get close with our creator, through a logical uni-from of understanding.

This Islamic portal useful for

 * Islamic scientists
 * Day dreamers
 * Scientists
 * Researchers
 * Random people

2. Purarine Project

A lyrical translations from Japanese songs into English, only updated if there is new songs from the interested singers were made.

3. Narumi BT-Blog (dot)jp - Secondary blog to Maaya no uta

Partially inactive, rarely updated compared to Maaya no uta when it was active earlier.

4. Narumi 3rd blog

Currently using this system to blog my thoughts, updated on 2015.

Ended / Halted / Stalled Projects
1. Maaya no uta~ Another year is going to pass, isnt it?

Maaya no uta~ is for a focus on songs translations which is according to my own understanding. Japanese language isnt my main language, but since I'm a Malay Malaysian, I found that eastern languages are code like the same. To what matters most, this is just a mere hobby site where I spend my time writing, or coding random webpage design, as to improve my understanding and skills on design, words and songs? Nothing here is official, because it is not totally from my work. Songs translations or whatever it is based on hobby likewise. Credits are suppose given to the writers not the translators.

Currently ended due to blog's updating system was halted by their developer. Further updates are also halted.

2. Multi-Complexion Ions Where Science is the discovery of Allah's Creations.

Mixed-Ions is a personal webblog on Imrann's intersts in computers (related with Linux, opensource, freeware and Windows based application reviews), Islamic thoughts (Gives a better review on current Issues in Imrann native country, Malaysia), Personal discoveries and many more. Believe to be a healty site to extend friendship with other people from all over the world.

Due to lack of visitors, the site has been shut down and made into a linking page.

3. Collective Islamic Stories

Collective Islamic stories in Bahasa Malaysia, rewritten and kept for future use of everyone else. Imrann only wrote the last entry/story.

Wikipedia Contributions
Iwasato Yuuho A biography about one of Imrann's favourite song writer. She also wrote a novel 小説「恋の記録 which means Memories of love); which then later Imrann found out that his experience was similar on what happend in the book when sometime started in the year 1997.

Memories of Love~ is based on a true story, which names have been slightly changed. The writer is the same young man (Imrann) who found Iwasato Yuuho as someone whom he can trust with. Life to Imrann means that something always happened for a reason, and he (Imrann) will try to find out that reason. (Read link for more information)

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User talk:ScottMainwaring

Please note: I'll reply on this page to messages put on this page, unless you ask otherwise. Thanks, -- Scott

Welcome!

 * Hi,, Welcome to Wikipedia!

I hope you like this place--I sure do--and want to stay. If you need help on how to title new articles check out Naming conventions, and for help on formatting the pages visit the manual of style. If you need help look at Help and The FAQ, plus if you can't find your answer there, check The Village pump (for Wikipedia related questions) or The Reference Desk (for general questions)! There's still more help at the Tutorial and Policy Library. Plus, don't forget to visit the Community Portal. And if you have any more questions after that, feel free to post them on My User talk Page. Additional Tips:

Here's some extra tips to help you get around in the 'pedia! Matani200505:52, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * If you made any edits before you got an account, you might be interested in assigning those to your username.
 * If you want to play around with your new Wiki skills the Sandbox is for you.
 * You can sign your name using three tildes, like &#126&#126~. If you use four, you can add a datestamp too.
 * You may want to add yourself to the New User Log
 * If you ever think a page or image should be deleted, please list it at the votes for deletion page. There is also a votes for undeletion page if you want to retrieve something that you think should not have been deleted.

PBS Kids Sprout
Have you checked for any PBS Kids Sprout ident?? If so, please add a picture to PBS idents. Georgia guy 00:58, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

tv-logo template
I think that's possible. It has something to do with setting the default parameter in the template. I'll try to figure something out. — J3ff 05:32, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Damariscotta-Newcastle
I disagree with the Damariscotta-Newcastle article being deleted. While Damariscotta Maine and Newcastle Maine are towns, Damaroscotta Newcastle Maine is a CDP which does not cover the towns, but rather areas without a municipal government. The possibility is that Damariscotta-Newcastle Maine is an area between the two towns? Or perhaps it is just geographically located near both, and the name was decided upon becasue of this. Onthost 04:49, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll research the CDP problem tomorow and get back to you, however I dont think it was a database error since there is data from the census for this.

Oregon Zoo
Thanks for delinking the years and otherwise simplifying the links on the Oregon Zoo page. Just a few days ago I read in the wikipedia manual of style (or maybe one of the related articles) that all dates need not be linked—only those relevant to the article at hand. So it was one of those to do things vaguely haunting me to go back and look at. Thanks for eliminating some of it. :-) —EncMstr 19:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * You're welcome! And thanks for the considerably greater efforts you've been making to improve that page.  ScottMainwaring 18:13, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

UNESCO controversy
Hi ScottMainwaring

Thank you for the contributions to the UNESCO page. About the controversy: your edit suggests that the controversy was not limited to the three mentioned countries - I wonder if you could substantiate that, as to my knowledge the controversy emanated from the US. regards, Jens Nielsen 17:55, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Jens, thanks; and you bring up a good point. I can't substantiate the breadth of the controversy.  My inference was that it was unlikely that the controversy was strictly limited to those countries that ended up taking the extreme step of actually withdrawing from UNESCO.  I certainly wouldn't object to this inference being taken out, until it can be documented. ScottMainwaring 18:13, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

National Parks and Creationism
OK - take out that stuff about Bush and Death Valley if you like. I had some links in there but can't really vouch for them. In general, as a scientist, I have refused to sign petitions/statements against astrology, flying saucers or whatever, as I felt it just gave them more attention. But now with the ID people coming in everywhere, it might be best to confront this "Answers in Genesis" and similar claims. It is hard to frame the correct site (outside of elections and courts). My wife's aunt had a tour of the Grand Tetons last summer and was told by the tourguide that these mountains were created in the Great Flood! I feel it is worthwhile for scientists to know of these things and have their replies at ready (though I did not try to get the name of the tour agency or the guide - no sense nitpicking - or I was lazy). Anyway, I made a stab at it and perhaps I will give up on that methodology for now. Thanks Carrionluggage 20:09, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Source for Paraguay flag information
You know what, I completely forgot about that edit, but I remember pasting that paragraph in after having written it up for a Spanish project in high school. I remember basically paraphrasing a website, but I can't find the website I used anymore, since I created that project on a computer back home – I have no access to it, since I'm clear across the country at college. If I ever find that website again, I'll link to it on the page, but as I paraphrased the website for that article, it's possibly a copyright violation anyways, right? So I'll move it to the talk page for now. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 07:11, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and please respond on my talk page. Thanks for bringing this to my attention; in retrospect, some of my earlier contributions were less than stellar. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 07:12, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to post updates at Talk:Flag of Paraguay. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 07:29, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Mojave Desert
Thanks for all of your work on the Mojave Desert and related topics. -Will Beback 19:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

 * You're welcome. My pleasure. ScottMainwaring 21:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey...
Hey, Scott I happen to not agree with you on the flag issue.

 * Check this out: BiH Flag

That is were I made my point.

Thanks, Kseferovic 18:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Putting "Valleys of the Mojave Desert" in its place
All of the valleys are listed by the state they are in and in the Mojave category. So Valley foo is listed in state foo1 and Valleys of the Mohave Desert. This is the proper way of doing this, at least that is my understanding. By including all of the state entries in the Mojave one you list things in the wrong places. The Sonora desert has a similar problem but it is a bit more involved since it apparently includes sub deserts and crosses more geographical boundaries. Vegaswikian 23:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree that each valley page should be in both the "Valleys of [state]" and "Valleys of the Mojave Desert" (VotMD) categories. My issue is that the category VotMD should itself be part of the set of overlapping trees rooted at Category:Valleys, so that that top-level category includes all appropriate subcategories (not just, as it does at the present, all appropriate pages).  As I understand it, your issue with putting VotMD under multiple "Valleys of [state]" categories is that, for example, Category:Valleys of Nevada would then have a subcategory that included items that weren't themselves valleys of Nevada.  But I think this is OK, as Categories do not form a tree. But perhaps we could compromise and include VotMD not under any "Valleys of [state]" category, but under the category one level up: Category:Valleys of the United States? --ScottMainwaring 23:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * As a general rule, there should only be one path to the parent or grandparent. Maybe your suggestion could be OK given these wide area groupings are going to be different in some way.  Kind of like rivers.  Vegaswikian 04:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Are images from portlandconnected.com in the Creative Commons?
You've marked several images uploaded from http://portlandconnected.com with the cc-by-sa-2.5 tag, but I can't find a note on that website indicating that they are publishing those images under that license. Do you have evidence that this is the case? --ScottMainwaring 05:47, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Maybe I'm using the wrong tag. I took the photos myself and they're also posted on my web site http://portlandconnected.com.  Do I need to put a note on my web site, or should I change the tag?  Thanks for your help!--Dbc12

 * Oh, I didn't know you were associated with that website. Thanks for all your work helping to document Portland!  In terms of wikipedia, I would just suggest for future uploads that you identify yourself as the creator of the image, in addition to tagging it however you like.  And on portlandconnected, I'd suggest putting some kind of notice indicating that the images on the site are available for re-use under according to http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ Hope this helps, and thanks for the clarification. --ScottMainwaring 16:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Communities in Oregon
Hi there~ Thanks for making all those other categories into subcategories of this one. I had wanted to see all those cross-refed in some way. Yay for organization! Katr67 21:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Hi Katr67! Thanks for your kind comments.  There's certainly much more to do (e.g., aren't Indian Reservations a kind of community?  Haven't looked into how this is handled elsewhere in wikipedia).  And we'll never win the fight against Entropy, will we? :-) --ScottMainwaring 23:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

You are right about the reservations--that's an excellent idea. I'll take a look around and see how (or if) it has been handled elsewhere. Must...fight...entropy... Katr67 06:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Framingham, Massachusetts
Don't know if you knew, but when you copyedited Framingham, Massachusetts on the 19th, you deleted a large chunk of it at the end. I reverted it back to the version before it. 209.150.61.247 19:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks! I had no idea -- sorry for that carelessness. --ScottMainwaring 20:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Flag of the Falkland Islands
Thanks a lot for restoring and sourcing the information! As you probably noticed, I'm having quite a problem with two users there. Thanks again for your help! =) --Nkcs 08:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Herr
The Mennonite church has changed over the centuries.

For instance, a fellow was looking for the house where Hans Herr lived finds it, and talked with the Mennonite man who lives there. "He asked us as though he could hardly believe it, "Is it true the Mennonites in America don't use alcohol?"

So while I feel comfortable in showing cites that the house is old, and I don't mind calling him a bishop, calling him a Mennonite bishop is somewhat misleading. What he thought of as Mennonite, and what we think of as Mennonite, is different. ClairSamoht - Help make Wikipedia the most authoritative source of information in the world 20:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Galleries
Good work with the turning of Gallery of city flags into a proper gallery. If you have time, you could to do the same to Flags of subnational entities]! :) --Himasaram 00:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Ridgecrest, California
Re: Ridgecrest, California. I use a tabbed browser and often open up a number of windows with diffs to check, though I sometimes take a while to get to each. I think in this case you fixed the same edit I was looking at, only quicker. By the time I got around to actually investigating it the text had changed so my repair (reverting to an older version) was at cross purposes. I've reverted my fix, as your solution was better. Thanks for following up and for fixing the vandalism in the first place. Cheers, -Will Beback 06:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Tourist trap
Thanks for your review of the article Tourist trap, I took your comments and ran with them, I struck through stuff that I believe has been accomplished as I did it. Please take another look at the page and provide what ever comments you have. There are still a number of short sections that I hope will have more detail added to. Please feel free clean up the text in the clean up section of the talk page as well. Jeepday 19:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Gas price trivia
Hello. Saw your clean-up of Panamint Springs. What was the problem with the trivia on gas prices? The photo I just added with the information even shows that, only last week, the price was over $4.00 a gallon, which is something people passing through might want to know (especially if they can plan away from it). --Bobak 03:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I guess I just saw that kind of "travellers take note" information as something appropriate for Wikitravel, but not notable/encyclopedic enough for wikipedia. A judgement call; I won't object if you feel strongly it belongs in the article. --ScottMainwaring 08:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Pearl District
Second time I've had to remove commercial realtor links to their own website! thanks for putting in that link to the neighborhood association. for some reason, i couldn't find it...they've moved it recently or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.105.28.169 (talk) 14:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC).

You too? No way!
You're a NAVA member? Really? Me too! Have you been to the NAVA 40 meeting in Reno? If so, how was it? Do you think there should be an article on the NAVA meetings, or should it just be mentioned in the NAVA article? ANNAfoxlover 22:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi ANNAfoxlover, thanks for your note. Yep, I'm a fellow NAVAn (?), though I've yet to make it to an annual meeting, actually.  I do try to make it to quarterly meetings of my local affiliate, the Portland (Oregon) Flag Association -- nice people.  In terms of expanding the NAVA page with more info about the annual meetings, I'd say, go for it!  I think the fact that each meeting has it's own flag and name (NAVA 40 = NAVADA in Nevada) is kind of interesting (in a geeky way, for sure); perhaps that aspect could be covered/illustrated? --ScottMainwaring 01:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll try. I'm workin' on it right now. I need to find some images of the flags for each meeting from NAVA 11 to NAVA 40. Got any large images? Where can I find some? [[Image:Flag of NAVA.svg|31px]] ANNAfoxlover 15:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Redirects
I reverted your edit to Green Line "D" Branch for the reasons given in Redirect. --NE2 06:40, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

People from Foo (American State)
I thought that having persons from a particular US state (Foo) in the 'People from Foo' might be sufficient for history and all other purposes, but maybe not. So similar to the 'People of Foo in the American Civil War' categories that I created, I am thinking of creating the following: 'People of F00 in the American Revolution' and 'People of colonial F00', both of which would be subcategories of both 'People from F00' and 'History of F00'. Any given person could be in both categories if they were prominent in both periods. Persons would be removed from the 'People from Foo' category itself unless they were also prominent after the Revolution (this is how it seems to be with the persons in 'People of Foo in the American Civil War' category. What do you think?  Thanks Hmains 03:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Sounds like a good plan! Thanks for helping improve Wikipedia's categories. --ScottMainwaring 04:47, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I will do my best. Hmains 00:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

You should have more userboxes.
You should have more userboxes. A•N•N•A foxlove r      SIGN HERE, ANYONE!

You need a flag.
You need your own personal flag. I know I have one. NAVA would like it. A•N•N•A foxlove r      PLEASE SIGN HERE, ANYONE!

North America (Americas)
You may not know this, I'll try to explain it as simple as I can. User Corticopia has been pushing the POV that Mexico is part of Central America. We had an edit warring in the article Mexico and a debate Talk:Mexico, in which we provided enough evidence that a portion of southeastern Mexico is physiographically in Central America, but that geopolitically Mexico is in the North American region. He agreed and he proceeded to edit the article in that way.

Now he's denying that and is editing all the articles that mention Mexico is in North America (namely Americas (terminology), Middle America (Americas), an article he defends a lot; and used to edit the article Central America).

He nominated the article North America (Americas) for deletion, saying that it was created following a POV pushing. I created the article in order to avoid confusion and in order to have the different models used in the Americas (North, Central, South or the model Corticopia likes, Northern, Middle and South). Also because the Template:Regions of the world lacked an article about the NA region, it used to have a link to North America (continent).

Can you please vote in this? I think it is unacceptable to try to delete a perfectly valid article, just because he wants to. Thanks for your help. Alex  Covarrubias  ( Let's talk! ) 14:05, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Other than being a veiled ad hominem argument, I think YOU have gone too far AC. As I've stated there, there is a key difference -- the content regarding the sub/regions of Northern America (which is not merely a UN construct; see article) and Middle America (numerous definitions provided) are well sourced, while that of the 'region' of North America isn't.  This doesn't deny other continental models, but no sources have been provided that clearly delineate what the model upon which the nominated article is based.  The sources in North America (Americas) do not support the content in that article, and a read of those sources will reveal that.  Regardless, if necessary, applicable content can be added to the North America article instead of forking and conflating.  Corticopia 14:05, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't have a strong opinion or expertise in this area, and so abstain. I must say I'm saddened by the animosity in this debate, and wish there was more evidence of WP:AGF. --ScottMainwaring 06:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Canadian pale
Hi Scott - you wrote: ''the definition on the Flags of the World website states: "The central stripe (or pale) in a 1:2 vertical triband/tricolour whose internal proportions are 1-2-1, and which is therefore square - as in the Canadian flag." Do you have a reference for the broader definition of any pale that is half the length of the flag?''

Then it's inadvertently my fault, since I wrote that definition at FOTW! However, I did so in the context of the flag of Canada, which is itself 1:2. The term Canadian pale is also used for flags which aren't 1:2, however, and the important feature orf the definition is the ratio of the stripes being 1;2:1. I shall have a word with the DoV page editor at FOTW to fix the definition there! Grutness...wha?  04:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Flags
You seem to be a flag maven. One editor posted some weird-looking U.S. Flag knockoff and said something about it being a hoax flag. Applying my sense of logic, I deleted it. So, had you ever heard of that "hoax" flag, which is referenced a couple or three entries back in the editing history? Does it belong in the article, as a legitimate "alternate" flag? Wahkeenah 02:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Wahkeenah. Not sure if I'm a "maven", but I'll own up to being an interested amateur vexillo-person.  Anyay, if I recall, what was posted was the so-called United States Civil Flag.  It's the subject of some conspiracy theories about the U.S. being under de facto military rule, etc., not seriously believed by anyone in the mainstream.  I think he properly identified it as a hoax and "proposed alternate" or something like that; nevertheless, I agree it doesn't merit being highlighted on Flag of the United States as it's already listed under "See Also" there, and also included in Flags of the United States. --ScottMainwaring 03:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation. People who think we are living under military rule have no clue about what military rule is. First off, the mere fact that someone can say something like that, and live to tell about it afterwards, suggests that they are, at the very least, exaggerating. Anyway, as you note, that flag can be found from a link if anyone is interested. Wahkeenah 03:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The flag of South Dakota
I uploaded the 1909 version of the South Dakota flag, like you requested on the talk page. But I cannot find the flag template to put on the image's page. Do you know where it is? Thanks! A•N•N•A foxlove r   hello!  14:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Hi ANNAfoxlover. And thanks!  I'm not sure what the right template is.  I found Commons:Template:PD-US-flag, which might be appropriate (but is it really true?  I thought one could copyright particular depictions of U.S. state flags); on the other hand, Commons:Image:Oklahoma1911flag.png uses Commons:Template:PD-self instead.  --ScottMainwaring 15:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Aptn.png)
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Flag of Portugal
Thanks for reverting my last edit. I was about to change that "defacement" mistake after I realized that it was not the case, but you beat me to it :) I was looking at some vexillology rules to add info on another section, and decided to clarify the lead, but wasn't that rigorous on this last edit. Thanks again. Parutakupiu  talk 02:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

DRV
Looking down your review request

(1) is nothing to do with the deletion process. It's an argument as to why we should keep this. Those participating in an AFD are free to ignore any information they believe irrelevant. (2) Likewise it's just you disagreeing with those who participated in the AFD. (3) One person mentioned it and didn't state anything to do with precedent, none of the others referred to it at all and the close doesn't indicate any sway based on the previous deletion. Again this is just you disagreeing with someones input, nothing to do with the overall process. (4) Seems to be a conspiracy theory of some sort, again nothing to do with the deletion process. If you believe someone is not acting in good faith, then you need to discuss it with them or seek some other dispute resolution. Deletion review isn't dispute resolution. We don't do any sort of stare decisis, however if the community believes that all articles of a particular type are misguided and the information better represented in another form, then the community can decide that, deletion review is again not for deciding that.

i.e. it is merely you disagreeing with the outcome of the debate, not that there are any process issues (e.g. being closed too early, or ignoring core policies like WP:V or even the debate being close and the consensus read incorrectly). As DRV is for reviewing the process and any errors in that, your listing gives nothing to review hence why I closed it. --pgk 09:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I was the nominator for deletion of Gallery of flags with stars. I am not part of any strategy by Zscout or anybody else, I stumbled upon the article during Recent changes patrol, and it immediately hit me as a non-article, and therefore nominated it. Corvus cornix 15:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There is no conspiracy at my part; just moving all possible free content to the Commons. Even if we use "all free content," these lists will never be complete. I add flags daily to both Wikipedia and the Commons and new flags are being discovered with different element types. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Portland neighborhoods
Hi Scott! I noticed that you created the infobox for Laurelhurst (and probably many other neighborhoods.) I'm on the boards of South Tabor and Southeast Uplift, and would like to create a similar box for S. Tabor and maybe some other neighborhoods. Can you tell me where you got the info, and share any tips about formatting that you may have picked up? Thanks! -Pete 05:32, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Hi Pete! Take a look at Template talk:Infobox Neighborhood Portland OR -- basically I pull the info out of the City's PortlandMaps (includes census data for most, but not all, neighborhoods) and PortlandOnline (see "neighborhood associations" section under "Services Menu") databases. Glad to see interest and activity around these pages!  What kind of formatting tips would you like? --ScottMainwaring 05:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks, that should be plenty to get me started. I'll try to report back… -Pete 23:28, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

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NAVA meeting flags
We got authorization from NAVA to use the meeting flags, past and present, on Wikipedia. You can use the license at Image:Flag of NAVA.svg on the images. It would be best to take the images from NAVA's website. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:19, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Commons soft redirects
Please don't remove the soft redirects from flag gallery pages. Go ahead and restore the contents, but please leave some kind of reference to the Commons version, as the two should be kept in sync. --Himasaram 05:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added commons links to the "See also" sections. --ScottMainwaring 05:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Oregon/Portland
Hi, I'm not sure if you watch WP:ORE, but I noticed that despite your excellent work on Oregon-related articles, I don't believe you belong to the Oregon Project... Well, Aboutmovies has created a subproject, WikiProject Oregon/Portland, and I thought you might be interested in joining. He made a really nice userbox for it, if those sorts of things entice you. :) Maybe you're not a joiner, but again, your work on Portland and related articles has been excellent and it would be great to have you on board. Cheers! Katr67 15:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, happy to join! --ScottMainwaring 05:17, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Dora Jumping Sharks
See "talk" page of Dora if you still disagree. We can discuss it there.ZookieByTheSea 17:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Grand Union Flag
Hi, Scott! I wonder if you might want to reconsider deleting the image of the NC currency. I thought that it really added to the page by showing that the GUF was widely recognized as the de facto flag of the United Colonies. The discussion on the page has been interesting -- thanks for your support! BTW, the little picture of the ship flying the EIC flag caught my eye, and triggered a whole new line of research. I'll be presenting a paper about it at the NAVA conference in Hartford in October. Peter Ansoff 13:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Hi Peter! That's a good point -- I think I did throw the baby out with the bathwater in this case, so to speak.  Rather than figure out how to frame the relevance of the NC currency image to the topic of the page, I just avoided (deleted) the issue entirely.  But it would certainly improve the article to re-include it as you suggest.  I'm not sure when I'll have time to do this, though, so if you're so inclined (and don't have to end up citing yourself :-)), please do go ahead and edit away!  BTW, I'm sorry not to be able to attend NAVA this October, it would be great to hear your latest paper and meet you in person.  Your I think research really raises the bar on what vexillological work should aspire to; it's great to have your knowledge represented on wikipedia. --ScottMainwaring 14:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Flag of Moldova
I do believe that some mention ought to be made in this article that there is inconsistency regarding the reverse of the flag (i.e., whether the yellow bar contains a reverse image of the coat of arms or is plain). I'll readily concede that I put too much of a detailed analysis of the screen shots on the main article page; however, I feel it needs to be at least included and minimally acknowledged, and the screen-shot image won't satisfy the fair use criteria (and will therefore be deleted) unless it appears in at least one article (talk pages don't count). What do you think about this? Richwales 00:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

ARIS citation
Thanks for adding the citation. I went to Census Bureau and kind of dropped it after that... :). Good work. -- Ben 22:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks! --ScottMainwaring 22:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Flags of the United States
Hi Scott, I thought it necessary to remove non USA flags from this article, given the title and following other flag list pages, and to include all US State flags rather than the POV "top 10" and "bottom 10". Apart from non dicussion, is there any reason why you disagree with the edits? Thanks Astrotrain 10:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Hi Astrotrain. In terms of the similar flags section, I think it belongs here (or, arguably, on the Flag of the United States page) as the US flag is the most prominent example of a large/notable category of flag designs, a category that deserves to be documented in wikipedia.  (I do think the section is rather large and maybe should be spun-off into a separate article, but narrowly-focused flag lists/galleries seem to be on the chopping block lately as "non-encyclopedic" and delete-worthy, though I strongly disagree with this de facto policy.)  Perhaps the intro sentence could be made better?  It currently tries to explain the inclusion of various non-USA flags on the page with the vague term "associated with the USA".
 * In terms of the state flags, two points: First, listing all 50 of them here seems unnecessarily redundant with the main article Flags of the U.S. states.  And second, I'd disagree that using NAVA's ratings to give a basis for which subset to represent is POV:  NAVA is the most prominent civilian organization of flag experts in the US, and they endorse this ranking; though it's obviously a critique of relative flag design quality, it represents an important consensus.  That being said, I think the current set of examples is too large (at 20); I'd like to see it reduced to the 4 top-rated flags (no need to call out the low-ranked ones so prominently, I think -- that's unnecessarily provocative of fans of those flags, or residents of those states).
 * I realize I'm being a bit contradictory here -- arguing for inclusion of a bunch of admittedly peripherally-related (but still noteworthy) material regarding the first section, and for exclusion of a bunch of highly relevant (if redundant) material in the second. But it's hard to balance conciseness with coverage sometimes.  Thanks for considering my ideas.  --ScottMainwaring 16:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I think the article should move more towards the "List of..." flag series, rather than stand as a gallery- which as you point out could be deleted. In any case, the contradiction highlighted is hard to deal with given the title and the format followed elsewhere. Astrotrain 20:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Edits to "Flag of Singapore"
Hi, thanks for proofreading and making some improvements to "Flag of Singapore". However, I am wondering whether the changes that you made to the first paragraph in the section "Flag of Singapore" should be reverted, because the description of the flag was actually taken directly from the Singapore Arms and Flag and National Anthem Rules. Also, the present wording, which plunges right into the meaning of the various elements of the flag, seems a little abrupt. Cheers, Jacklee 04:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Jacklee, and thanks for your comments. To explain the reasoning behind my edits to that paragraph:  The first sentence was basically redundant with material in the introduction, so I thought deleting it was appropriate.  I then shortened up the next two sentences by replacing "The X colour" with "X", which I don't think affects meaning.  I agree that this left the section with a bit too abrupt a beginning; I've just edited a bit more to try to fix this, let me know what you think.
 * In general, while I think its great to reference the actual legal language that defines the flag, I don't think an encyclopedia needs to uncritically reproduce it verbatim or accept its style. For example, the legal language talks about an "upper left canton", which sounds quite awkward to a vexillologist's ear:  flags don't have an inherent "left" and "right" side, since they blow around in the wind and are viewed at a variety of angles, so "hoist" and "fly" are the preferred terms; and the "canton" is by definition the corner in the upper fly part of the flag -- I don't think the other corners can be considered "cantons".  Seems to me better to try to make all "Flag of X" articles conform to vexillological standards rather than to have each use the respective country's idiosyncratic terminology. --ScottMainwaring 05:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Not being a vexillogist, I shall defer to your superior knowledge regarding how the flag should be described. However, when I previously worked to get articles up to Good Article status, I was advised by (presumably) more experienced editors that the introductory paragraph is meant to summarize what is in the article, which suggests that what is in the introduction must appear elsewhere in the article. I've made some minor tweaks to the words that you introduced in the "Elements and symbolism section". In particular, I've removed the "(sic)" ("equality of man" is an old-fashioned but grammatical usage) and the "presumably" after "waxing" (yes, the crescent moon is waxing). For the benefit of other editors, I've copied our discussion into the "Flag of Singapore" talk page. We may want to continue this conversation there. Cheers, Jacklee 13:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Gallery of flags with crosses
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51-star US flag?
Hi Jacobolus! I'm trying to track down the source you used to create Image:US flag 51 stars.svg - has the Army Institute of Heraldry published the design somewhere? It would be a good citation to add to Flag of the United States. Thanks, --ScottMainwaring (talk) 08:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC) (class of '85, btw)

 * I got it from this FOTW page. --jacobolus (t) 08:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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Flag Entry Template
Greetings. I wanted to give you a heads up that the flag entry template isn't working as it should for flags that are out of proportion of the de-facto 2/3 standard. This can be seen on Flags of the United States page that I have done some work on. In particular, the Width attribute does work properly for flags such as the Guilford Flag. I can take a look at template and attempt to fix it, but you are far more qualified to work on it. Have a great day. -DevinCook (talk) 19:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi DevinCook. Yes, really long flags are a pain in the neck.  I think the template as it stands can handle most, though, since there is a parameter called Doublewide (see Template talk:Flag entry) that when set causes the flag entry to span two columns in the display.  (For really extreme flags, maybe there should be Triplewide and Quadruplewide as well?)  I edited Flags of the United States to use it, and rearranged things a little, hope this helps.  Thanks for working on improving that page! --ScottMainwaring (talk) 18:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. However, shouldn't the width attribute be able to set the width of the image? That would make it easy to resize each flag to fit to a certain width. Strange flags like the Guiford Flag wouldn't present a problem. We could also use it to set all the flags to a set width giving a uniform layout like the <gallery> tag. Anyway, thanks for the great template. Have a great day. -DevinCook (talk) 18:43, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It would be great to be able to set the width just once, in template:Begin flag gallery, but I don't know how to do this so that subsequent "calls" to template:Flag entry could reference the value; a small matter of programming beyond my current knowledge, I'm afraid. But in cases like the Guildford flag, just because that entry needs to be 400 pixels wide (say), it doesn't follow that all the other entries should be that wide (you'd just get a lot of whitespace for the sake of consistency).  Hence the logic of "Doublewide" to flag an exception to the general width rule for a gallery. --ScottMainwaring (talk) 19:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Setting the width once would be nice, but I doubt it's possible - especially since we have a mix of HTML and Wikipedia's markup. All the images in on that page are set with a width of 200px, but none are rendered that way. I can take a look if you like. I'm exceptionally nerdy. :-) Oh, on another note, have you had a chance to play with Inkscape? Its a great open-source program that I used to create some of the flags in the gallery (the nightmarish Guilford one as well). -DevinCook (talk) 19:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Questions about User 72.64.154.253
This is an interesting situation. Overall, I think the only action that needs to be taken is to ask the user where they get their information from. I am assuming that it's all either from the same book or from the same website. Also, feel free to ask that the user adds references to the paragraphs they are adding. I think they are certainly doing more good than bad for the articles – especially to those that don't have a single reference. The user's additions are not very controversial, and simply explain why a flag looks the way it does without adding anything out of the ordinary. Gary King ( talk ) 14:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

County templates
Please stop adding neighborhoods to county templates; the nationwide standard is that neighborhoods of cities don't get added to them. Nyttend (talk) 05:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nyttend, could you please point me to this standard? I obviously wasn't aware of it, and was simply trying to be bold.  And I would like to suggest that you might better have assumed good faith by pointing me to this standard in the first place, instead of reverting my edits as you did.  --ScottMainwaring (talk) 06:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Russell, Portland, Oregon
Congrats on fixing the last redlink in the PDX neighborhoods template! Katr67 (talk) 04:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sometimes, if you want something done, you have to do it yourself! :-) Thanks for noticing.  --ScottMainwaring (talk) 07:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Gallery of bicolor flags
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Mt. Scott
I need your help and direction in regards to Mt. Scott-Arleta, Portland, Oregon. It is an extremely stubby stub. Can this be added to communities in Portland? Can it be tied to Mt. Scott itself? Can it survive on its own? What is the threshhold for notability? Someone delete my artice on a model of laptop computer of which tens (if not hundreds) of thousands were made. Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 07:17, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Gallery of sovereign-state flags
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AfD nomination of Gallery of triband flags
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Flag of Japan
Hello.

You is the fourth user with the largest number of editions in the article of Flag of Japan. In the Portuguese Wikipedia the article of Flag of Japan is the same, except that in Portuguese. I work in creat articles for "to blue" the article in Portuguese Wikipedia. And I realized that both articles in both languages are dead links. And earnestly ask, is not there a way to recover the dead links or substitute another source? In the Internet Archive failed, In this sites Category:Web archives could be good? I believe that the best way would be to find another source.

Thank you for your attention. Sorry my bad English. Bruno Ishiai (talk) 22:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Gallery of flags by similarity

The article Gallery of flags by similarity has been proposed for deletion  because of the following concern:
 * This Article should be deleted because it is Original Research. There is some objectivity where it comes to identifying which flags are Arab colors, or derive from the French tricolor for example; however it still serves no purpose. These things will be mentioned separately on the respective Articles for each flag. There is no need to have this Article which is very long and invites constant additions from editors. There are NO reliable citations which by itself is enough to delete the Article. Many of the categories can be disputed on a whim precisely because they are whimsical in their imagination and come down to an editor's subjectivity. It id almost like having an Article which rides roughshod over academic Taxonomies of living things and classified them according to whatever an editor thought was similar, e.g. saying the Domestic Cat is similar to the Fox. I have also discussed this on the talk page of Flag

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NAVA flag
(I wrote this on the NAVA article's discussion page, but on the off-chance you're not watching that page, I thought I'd copy it here. R.)

There is an obvious error in the descriptive specs of the NAVA flag. I did not correct it, as I am not a NAVA member, and the error originates on the NAVA homepage. The base of the blue triangle is NOT, obviously, equal to the overall length of the flag: it DOES equal the length of the flag minus the widths of the two white stripes. NAVA members may very likely say, "we knew what we meant, " but an encyclopedia, I think, has to strive for more accuracy. (I copied this note to you, as I thought you might want to address the issue yourself, or indeed put me in my place if I am incorrect. I believe, however, that I am not.) Ragityman (talk) 08:51, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * By the way, thanks for all the work on the fascinating flag articles. Though I may not agree with Consensus(!), I, for one, think they are an excellent example of where an exception should be made to the rules on Original Research.  Similarities and differences are self-evident, and shouldn't need citations.  As I see some of these articles are red-linked, I assume they were successfully deleted.  Here's hoping you, or someone, will be able to recreate them, if not here, then maybe on one of the other wiki-projects.
 * Luck to you.Ragityman (talk) 09:33, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind comments, and the note about the NAVA flag. The problem is that "width" when used by flag scholars has a technical meaning that doesn't match the ordinary/obvious meaning of that word. As they are most often depicted, as if flying from a flag pole, the width of the flag refers to its *vertical* dimension, not the horizontal one (that one is called the flag's "length"). It makes a little more sense if you imaging a really long pennant or something made from a long roll of cloth: it's the width of the role that ends up determining the vertical dimension of the pennant against the flagpole when its streams out in the wind, and the length of the role of cloth determines how long/far from the pole the flag will stream. I've made a little note on the NAVA page to try to clarify things.

In terms of all the deleted articles, it has basically driven me from wanting to continue to participate on Wikipedia, which is unfortunately, in my experience, if not a highly bureaucratic and regulated space, a basically unfriendly one. (Comments like yours the happy exception!) Scott

Gallery of solid flags listed at Redirects for discussion
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Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, Portland Oregon (March 7, 2015)
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Wikipedia Women's Health Information Edit-a-thon: Tuesday, May 12 at OHSU
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Upcoming Art+Feminism events in Oregon
You are invited to participate in Oregon's upcoming Art+Feminism events, which will be held in Portland and Eugene on Saturday, March 5, 2016. Please see the following links for additional information, or to sign up: About Art+Feminism: Art+Feminism is pleased to announce its third annual Wikipedia edit-a-thon, an all-day event designed to generate coverage of women and the arts on Wikipedia and encourage female editorship. Last year, over 1,500 participants at more than 75 events around the world participated in the second annual campaign, resulting in the creation of nearly 400 new pages and significant improvements to 500 articles on Wikipedia. For more information, see Art+Feminism.
 * Portland: Yale Union (800 SE 10th Avenue), 12:00–5:00pm
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Art+Feminism @ Portland Institute for Contemporary Art (March 18, 2017)
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Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon @ PNCA Library (April 29, 2017)
You are invited to the upcoming Art+Feminism edit-athon, which will be held at the Pacific Northwest College of Art (PNCA) Library at 511 NW Broadway on Saturday, April 29, 2017, from 11am to 4pm. For more information, visit the Facebook event page.

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Wiki Loves Pride at PNCA: Tuesday, June 27
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Upcoming Wikipedia edit-a-thon dedicated to artists of color - Thursday, Oct. 26 at PNCA
On Thursday, October 26, a Wikipedia edit-a-thon dedicated to artists of color will be held from 4–8pm at the Pacific Northwest College of Art (511 NW Broadway). Learn more at Facebook. Hope to see you there! -MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:27, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon: Jewish Women Artists (March 8, Oregon Jewish Museum)
On March 8 (International Women's Day), the Oregon Jewish Museum and Center for Holocaust Education and artist Shoshana Gugenheim will be hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon to create and improve Wikipedia articles about Jewish women artists. Click here for more information. You can also express interest or suggest articles to create or improve here. This event is free and open to the public, and will serve as both a public art action and a public educational program. Participation is welcome in person and remotely (for those outside of Portland). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:25, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon (March 10, Pacific Northwest College of Art)
On Saturday, March 10 (11am to 4pm), the Pacific Northwest College of Art (PNCA) will be hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon to create and improve Wikipedia articles about art, feminism, and women. You can read details on the Facebook event page, or this Wikipedia meetup page. Tutorials for new editors, reference materials, childcare, and refreshments will be provided. Bring your laptop, power cord and ideas for entries that need updating or creation. For the editing-averse, you're welcome to stop by to show your support! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:50, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Art+Feminism Wikipedia Edit-a-thon (April 13, University of Oregon)
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Wikipedia Editathon: The Visibility Project - Saturday, January 19
Make+Think+Code and the Pacific Northwest College of Art are hosting a Wikipedia editathon at the Shipley Collins Mediatheque (511 NW Broadway) on Saturday, January 19 from 10am to 2:30pm. The purpose of the event is to make Wikipedia a more vibrant, representative, inclusive and diverse resource. Please visit Meetup/MakeThinkCode/TheVisibilityProject for more information. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Oregon State University Black History Month Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, Friday, February 8
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PNCA Art+Feminism Wikipedia Editathon, Saturday, March 9
The Pacific Northwest College of Art (PNCA) is hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon in the Shipley Collins Mediatheque (511 NW Broadway) on Saturday, March 9 from 10am – 2:30pm. This is a free community event designed to teach people to add and edit information about cis and transgender women and nonbinary folks to Wikipedia. We'll have training sessions, artist talks, snacks, free childcare, and plenty of exciting energy and collaboration! You're welcome to drop in any time during the event. Participants are encouraged to bring their own laptops and charging cables, though if you are not able, computer stations will be available. Please visit this link for more information. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:02, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

International Women's Day Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, Oregon Jewish Museum, Thursday, March 7
The Oregon Jewish Museum and Center for Holocaust Education, in partnership with social practice artist Shoshana Gugenheim and as part of the Art+Feminism Project, will host the 2nd Annual International Women's Day Wikipedia Edit-a-thon to edit and/or create Wikipedia articles for Jewish women artists. The event will be held at the museum on Thursday, March 7 from 4 to 8 pm. Pre-registration is preferred but not required. Members of the public are invited to come to the museum to learn about the editing process, its history, its impact, and how to do it. We aim to collaboratively edit/enter 18 Jewish women artists into the canon. Support will be provided by an experienced local Wikipedian who will be on site to teach and guide the process. This edit-a-thon will serve as both a public art action and a public educational program. Participants will have an opportunity to select an artist/s ahead of time or on site.

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Hello, again
I have been recently learning a bit about flags, and I thought of our discussion long ago, when the deletionistas were after you and your lovely galleries. I AM pleased to find that you didn’t depart forever in disgust, though that response would have been understandable. I find that I am also pleased to learn that you are of the female variety, and I had to stop and wonder why that makes a difference to me. Partly, I’m sure, because the ratio has been wrong from early days, but it is more than that.

When I was young and dinosaurs roamed the earth, my mother and grandmother read several of Taylor Caldwell’s books and eventually persuaded me to read one. Now, unfortunately, I read very slowly: having learned to read aloud, I hear a voice in my head pronounce each syllable. I had finished most of the book before I learned that Caldwell was a woman. The voice in my head was not female!

As the project evolves, many excellent editors (imho) have left in frustration, or for any number of other reasons. It’s good to see continuity, esp of those with specialized knowledge. I also wanted to say that trends cycle over time: I am hopeful that a day will come when your flag galleries will be welcomed back. I found another project at one point which was more accepting of pages WP is not, and I thought of your flags. Unfortunately that project has also evolved, and in a different direction. I don’t think it’s what you want, but when I think of the name again, I will let you judge for yourself. Everipedia! I believe that’s it. I’ll leave that to your judgement. I’ve rambled enough. Ragity (talk) 20:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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You're Invited! Writing Black History of the Pacific Northwest into Wikipedia
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Portland Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon: March 12, 2022
You are invited! An Art+Feminism Wikipedia edit-a-thon will be held in Portland, Oregon, on March 12, 2022. Learn more here!

Wikipedia is one of the most-visited sites on the internet—and it’s created by people who volunteer their time to write and edit pages. Learn how to edit Wikipedia and be a part of shaping our understanding of our world. In this workshop, volunteer Wikipedia editors will be on hand to train participants on how to get started editing pages and offer ideas for which pages you can pitch in to help improve. Show up at any point during the four hours to get started!

Also: Free burritos!! We will be providing vegan, vegetarian, and meat burritos from food cart Loncheria Las Mayos. Alder Commons has a large, fenced playground. Children are welcome! Some computers will be available to borrow, but if you have a laptop, please bring it to use. We will also be leading an online training for new editors at 11am-12pm PST. Please feel free to join that training if you are not able to show up IRL.

This event is part of the international month of events organized by Art+Feminism, which is building a community of activists committed to closing information gaps related to gender, feminism, and the arts, beginning with Wikipedia. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:37, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

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Masaki Fujihata

Masaki Fujihata (藤幡正樹) is a Japanese sound, installation and interactive artist. He is a professor at Keio University.

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William Henry Sims

William Henry Sims (January 6, 1872—1955 ) was a politician in Manitoba, Canada. He served in the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba from 1914 to 1920 as a member of the Liberal Party.

Biography
Sims was born in Fergus, Ontario, the son of William A. Sims and Clara Last, and was educated at Brant School near Stonewall and in Winnipeg, Manitoba. He received a Teachers' Certificate, and also worked as a farmer. He came to the Swan River valley during the early 1900s. Sims served as a councillor in the Rural Municipality of Swan River from 1907 to 1913, and was the community's reeve in 1914. He was also president of the local Agricultural Society for many years. Sims was married twice: first to Catherine Emily Marsh and then, in 1909, to Christina S. M. Mounsey.

He was first elected to the Manitoba legislature in the 1914 provincial election, defeating Conservative candidate W.J. Stewart by thirty-three votes in the constituency of Swan River. The Conservatives won this election, and Sims served with his party in opposition.

The Conservative administration was forced to resign in 1915 as the result of a corruption scandal, and the Liberals were called to form government. A new election was called, which the Liberals won in a landslide. Sims was re-elected by an increased majority, and served as a backbench supporter of premier Tobias Norris's government for the next five years.

He was defeated in the 1920 provincial election, losing to Farmer candidate Robert Emmond by 619 votes. He sought to return to the legislature in the 1927 election, but finished third against Progressive candidate Andrew McCleary.

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