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Talk:Anglican Church Grammar School

Abbreviations
User:220.245.180.132, Can you explain what these abbreviations stand for? Otherwise, I feel they should be left out of the article. Cnwb 12:14, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Regarding the unexplained abbreviations you keep adding; please discuss these changes on this talk page. Cnwb 22:57, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Blocking
User:L00ser I see no reason for you to edit the Anglican Church Grammar School site with inappropiate information that has no factual basis whatsover. I would like to put foward a ban on L00ser editing any site as he has blatently disregarded the rules and continues to vandalise the Anglican Church Grammar School site.

Third Opinion(s)
agreed, the 'controvesy' and 'student organisations' sections are a little biased, but they should NOT be delteted. feel free to edit. as an uninvolved aprty, it is obvious to me that these should remain.

By not posting here, User:220.245.180.132 has essentially pleaded no contest... The abbreviations should left out as they are rather abtruse. Be forewarned, Cnwb, the man we are dealing with here has a bit of a history. If he persists in this without explaining himself, take this to a higher level. Cheers, All.- Thesocialistesq 05:15, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Getting rid of the student bodies section
That is a terrible idea. They represent the students at Churchie and remain in those positions for a whole year. Their roles give them the right to be up there.
 * You made my point for me. They are there for a year, while Wikipedia is to remain timeless. Their role is that of a high school or middle school level student officer. That gives them notability to be included on school publications but absolutely no one has a "right" to be on Wikipedia. I have deleted the student names from this section. They should not be replaced until a full accounting has been given of the notability of the students named Pikachu, Yu-gi-oh, and Zoomer One. On a more serious note, please look at the article on Stuyvesant, which is a featured article. There is no listing of current students elected to student body positions. There are no high quality articles that have this. This is also not a problem. If you feel that their election gives them notability, please keep in mind that even people elected to positions in a city level government aren't considered notable by the standards at WP:BIO.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 06:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha, the funny thing is that you take this so seriously hahaha. Mate, you need to find yourself a girl.
 * The sad thing is that you fail to understand that Wikipedia is not a free webhost for you to feel good about yourself. If you want to list the house captains and annually elected student officers you are free to do so on your own bandwidth. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is the largest encyclopedia in history. It is truly insignificant who was the house captain in any given year. I am removing references to individual non-notable students one more time. If they are replaced I will file a request for comment regarding this issue. I am certain that consensus would fall on the side of not including officers' names. Adding them back in would be seen as vandalism and would be a blockable offense as it would be going against consensus. As many people editing this article are probably doing so from school, this would lead to the school being blocked from editing. That would be unfortunate.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 05:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

oooooo big man, if u find that sad, then ur a bit sad urself, there are many people our school, and thus many computers at many homes, thousands, ill always win
 * I advise you pay attention to where you are. This is not a playground; it is an encyclopedia. If you wish to play games that you can "win", I'm sure your grammar school's playground can accommodate you. You and your friends can't "win" here any more than I or the hundreds of thousands of other editors can "win." The community and the end users "win" by having encyclopedic content. We "win" by providing that. Your edits are moving the article further from the goal, thereby losing. Please join our winning team or stop playing games.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 14:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha ummmmm hate to tell you big fella but our grammar school doesn't have a playground. you should get your story straight, first you say no one can "win" and then you tell me to join your "winning team", nice one......  ......   .....  ehem ..... ..... anyway its obvious you dont really no wat ur talkin about, oh well, makes it easier for me to WIN. Oh and by the way, I'm not "playing", if you think this is "playing" perhaps you should go to your local playground and partake in your "playing" there.... but thanks for the heads up big fella

 * Uh, okay. Luna Santin 21:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

shutup
 * Hi! It's me again. Please respect our civility policy.—WAvegetarian•(talk) 17:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Zoomers
i would like very much to find out if there is any basis in the incident that gave this moniker breath. I suffered three years of this shithole school and heard that it was. I suffered my time in Donaldson House and a senior told me there that the lad who fucked a dog was very much real. I would like to write a short history on this if possible.

i was a boarder in Donaldson House from 1988-90 and we once asked the sole repeat senior there if the legend of Zoomer was, in fact, true. He indicated that it was. He told us that it occurred when he was a Grade Eight student himself (so in 1982), the kid who violated the dog was a senior. He had thought that he was going to score on a date with a girl and had brought with him a condom in preparation. When his plans did not transpire, he opted for the dog that had integrated herself with the boarding community. He was found out the side of what was then the Grade Nine dormitory with the dog's hind legs wrapped in behind the crux of his knees. He was pulling her back and forth upon himself with her tail - doing her 'doggy style.' He used the condom at least! I cannot reference this, but this is what I heard from a living breathing senior in 1988. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.126.106.66 (talk) 20:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

I was wondering what the concensus is on including a reference to this nickname for Churchie students is. It is a term that to my knowledge is commonly used amongst Brisbane students and by that measure should be included. If included it certainly should be made clear that the origin is apocraphyl and it's usage degogratry. 194.105.170.60 13:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Nah, i dont think you should put zoomers in, its definiatly not for an encycoldidia (or however you spell it) lol

Not mentioning that churchie boys are called zoomers is like not mentioning hitler was a nazi.

the term zoomer comes from an incident that apparently happened when a kid was dared to have sex with the head masters dog and hence did so, and the dogs name was zoomer.

EDIT"

The dogs name was not zoomer, the guy who did it was not popular and this was the nickname given to him by other students,

that student commited suicide and let us respect him by not using it derogaratorily.

Edit: It is a long time for me now but from what I remember the dogs name was "Zoomer" and it did not belong to any of the staff but another student. Yes the student whom was "caught" conducting a sexual act with the aforementioned dog did commit suicide but after having already moved schools once or perhaps even twice. All in all, very sad. Having said this I believe that a respectful mention (not easy I guess) should be made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.78.21.42 (talk) 05:20, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's pretty hard to add something so defamatory without a reference.  JRA _ Westy Qld2  Talk 11:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Mazda Car Commercial
Its a big joke that no-one gets about the private school boy in the Mazda car commercials going "Zoom Zoom". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.164.238 (talk) 14:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Sex Abuse
Have added the Kevin Lynch saga in. Its in St. Pauls and Grammar's page, it should be here too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kiran90 (talk • contribs).

 * I think you forgot to copy the verification links across. I reverted your addition because of this. Ans e ll  10:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I can understand the comments of the school webmaster on the sexual abuse section and the school not wanting it to appear. On the other hand, it is an important part of history for survivors which should not be ignored. From the perspective of an encyclopaedia, I suspect a paper encyclopedia editor would be more interested in balance than inclusion of relatively small and controversial facts. Why doesn't the perpetrator have a Wikipedia entry??? No doubt all encyclopedia topics have controversial areas. Can they be dealt with in a consistent way? --Blouis79 13:36, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * We aren't interested in being balanced or necessarily fair. We certainly aren't trying to emulate FOX News. (For those readers unfamiliar with American media that was a political jab at FOX's ironic slogan.) What we strive for on Wikipdia is neutrality. The reason for there not being an entry is that no one has written it yet. —WAvegetarian•(talk) 15:34, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

ummmmmm wavegetarian or wateva ur name is, stop being a bitch, get a job, and for the love of god get a girl friend, end communication —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.45.174.3 (talk • contribs).
 * Please do not resort to argumentum ad personam and ad hominem circumstantiae. They are very poor rhetorical strategies, inherently logical fallacies, and are against one of our most basic policies. I have multiple jobs along with being a full time student and a Wikipedia administrator. I have some girl friends, but as I am no longer a child most of my friends are adults. If you were meaning to imply that I am having trouble finding a girlfriend, I'm in a committed long term relationship. As you have run out of just about any argument short of calling Godwin's Law into play, can we get back to writing an encyclopedia now? Thanks. Oh, one last thing: Ending communication is bad because then we can't determine consensus and support the free and open flow of information. —WAvegetarian (talk) 17:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

haha, WAvegetarian, dont take it seriously. that comment made by the unsigned user is a typical Australian Churchie "student" response: short, primitive and lacking in any form of logic or sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.157.77 (talk) 12:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Stage Crew
''The comment blow was removed from the wiki article, it was written by an ex stage crew member is true, the students in stage crew are not recognized for their work. And neither does the school administration notice the hours put in by the stage crew members. Personally i agree with the above comment and so do some other stage crew members.'' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.42.225 (talk • contribs) 11:35, July 25, 2007 (UTC)

I felt that the stage crew section was written by a bitter exmember who was very upset by the lack of recognition for his work: here is the section I removed "After most events that occur during the school year that the Stage Crew boys are involved in takes away a lot of their spare time. This is because something that might only run for an hour will take hours and hours to set and pack up. For plays, the hours involve setting up, rehearsals, the performance and finally the pack up. For a dance, the hours would involve setting up, which takes a year 10 roughly 35 hours each with the time increasing as you go up the grades, driving the dance and finally bumping out that night. After a school dance that finishes at around 10:30pm, the stage crew boys are there until the early hours of the morning and leave the school at about 3:30 or sometimes 4:00 on sunday mornings.

Although stage crew is the main force behind most of the things that happen in the school that involve their equipment, there is a poor stigma about them. Not too many of the boys in the churchie community actually respect the stage crew community. Most boys see stage crew as a waste of time that they get out of class for and don no work whatsoever. However, these boys have never participated in stage crew and have no idea of what goes on behind the scenes of everything that happens at the school. " —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.244.146.142 (talk) 15:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC).
 * A lot of text about the Stage Crew, including names of boys who hold leadership positions, and some POV wording about them being underappreciated and hard-working, is repeatedly being inserted in the article. That sort of thing is not appropriate for a Wikipedia article, for obvious reasons. It may or may not be true about the stage crew being unrecognized, but that's not encyclopedic information. Please do not insert it again. (Comment posted here since the person or people who insert the same text log in from different IPs each time) --Bonadea 11:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

=Strong and Donaldson boarding houses=

I was in Strong House from 1996 to 2001. If this page is intended to reflect the full history of Churchie, then I feel that it should also include the two boarding houses (Strong and Donaldson) that was merged down with Gerald and Goodwin. I would write this section myself, however, I don't have the full references and the story behind why the two boarding houses was cut down.

=Fire= Is there a link to an article about the fire with exact details? I found some on The Courier Mail and Brisbane Times but none mentioned the building the fire was in. According to The Courier Mail, the fire was at 4:30PM, not 5:00PM. If it is indeed 5pm then please feel free to change it back to the correct time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.239.71.163 (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2007 (UTC) The fire was in the library building - the Roberts Centre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.94.205.245 (talk) 06:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

=Student body entry= I fail to see what the fuss is about. This item simply describes the methods by which the student body is formally organised.

The section beginning Boys in year 8 is of a different nature, as it describes certain policies of the school in relation to its pupils. It would be better to expand and clarify this section, and break it out as a separate item. Chasnor15 (talk) 14:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Alumni
George Wilson is recorded under the heading "Rugby" as "Bury FC". This is an English football (soccer) club, but I am unable to trace him. Some mistake, surely?

Slang Terms
I feel the use of the word 'churchie', while a culturally accepted term to refer to the school in Queensland, is still classed as a slang term and should be removed and replaced with the full name of the school or an abbreviation with the exception of where 'Churchie' refers to a proper noun, such as an organization titled as such. Anybody have any thoughts on this? Twistie.man (talk) 08:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It is mentioned it is colloquially known as 'Churchie' in the opening, therefore I believe according to MoS this is acceptable. Anglican Church Grammar School is certainly a long drawn out name that would become unnecessary to repeat, much like on a biography page where you address the person by just their first or last name.  JRA _ Westy Qld2  Talk 11:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

People who feel this article needs cleaning
Please state your reasons and give appropriate examples as to why you believe that this article contains the following: (1) Low standards set by Wikipedia (2) Weasel words and unverifiable information (3) Additional references -- note that this last one has been set since 2007 and the article has vastly changed since then. And lastly, (4) Why you feel the Student bodies section should be presented using Prose. As these are subjective matters, I would like your input as to why those of you feel those tags need to remain.124.177.173.49 (talk) 12:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your queries. To find more information as to what is required by the tags you can click on the links highlighted in blue in the tags.  For example the tag on Wikipedia standards will redirect you to WP:MOS which has a style manual that wikipedia articles should follow.  The unverifiable information and additional references tags need to stay because there are still large sections of the article, such as those covering spiritual ethos, curriculum and house system that contain information which is not verifiable and needs references.  This article has also in the past been subject to the addition of unverifiable content, some of which could be seen as libelous to individuals and the school, so it is important that these standards are fully met in the case of this article. I hope this answers your questions. Jenafalt (talk) 15:01, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. I do have one query though, and I apologise if it's covered somewhere, but would published works by the school be viable references for the areas that you feel require further citation? While perhaps it could use further referencing, I still fail to see how it doesn't meet Wikipedia quality standards. It seems redundant to leave both tags there if it is for the same reason.124.177.173.49 (talk) 11:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * For uncontentious issues quoting from the school website would be fine. For example, it would be fine to have a reference from the school's website to reference the names of the school houses, but if someone was going to say that the house system was flawed or the best in Australia, for example, it would need other, unbiased, references to assert the claim validly. Jenafalt (talk) 12:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Removal of weasel words template
Like many articles about educational institutions, self-promotion can become rife within an article and need to be referenced as to provide a NPOV. I noticed a removal of the weasel words template, however, I see paragraphs about the school with unreferenced quotes like "even though the 1st VIII remains the symbol of supremacy.", despite, when looking upon results, rowing results in Brisbane seem pretty even. I don't know much about GPS Sport, but perhaps a more in depth sport section to reflect how the school performs in other sports like rugby and cricket, rather than just the sports they succeed at. The article also includes other unreferenced self promotion statements, such as charitable events run by the school. Until such issues are cleared up, I don't believe this article meets WP:NPOV standards.  JRA _ Westy Qld2  Talk 00:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Statement of death threats
Cannot find this supposed 'press release' or any other notable material, however I may not be looking in the right spot.  JRA _ Westy Qld2  Talk 10:10, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've removed this information as I could find no sources for it and it was possibly libelous. Jenafalt (talk) 13:42, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Rem. of History and Controversy content
I've rollbacked an attempt to remove well referenced content from the History and Controversy sections without any apparent explanation in edit summaries. If there's an explanation for why this information should be removed, please feel free to explain before removing it. - danjel  (talk to me) 07:57, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to undertake a major edit of the Controversy section and feel as though I should explain what I'm going to do before I do it. Firstly, I'm going to remove the two lines about an anonymous 'ex-student' reporting being sexually abused between 1989 and 1992 because there is no reference for it (the link is dead). Secondly, I'm going to remove the sentences about a Churchie student being assaulted on Stradbroke Island. The bashing has nothing to do with Churchie itself and involves no 'controversial' behaviour on the part of the school. It was merely a coincidence that the student happened to be from Churchie - including such information is unnecessary and irrelevant for people visiting an encyclopaedic website to better understand the school. Also (and this could be debatable), I'm going to remove the paragraph about Robert Sharwood. Including details about 'kissing, fondling, oral sex and masturbation' seems like an attempt to draw the reader away from the implied 'controversy' on Churchie's part - his employment at the school. No sexual activity took place at the school. Additionally, the school fired the man upon learning of his past actions (see ). The issue with, and the controversy surrounding, Robert Sharwood was not Churchie employing him - in all the articles I have read, there is no criticism of the school's actions. The issue was Sharwood's history as a chaplain, which the school knew nothing about, and fired him when it learnt of it. I should note that the title of the source used is "Church 'covered up' sexual abuse" not "Churchie 'covered up' sexual abuse". So there was nothing 'controversial' about the school's behaviour. Hopefully people can see where I'm coming from. It seems as though a lot effort is expended in attempts to implicate Churchie in a range of 'controversies' without people bothering to acknowledge that the school itself is frequently an uninvolved party. (Apologies for the formatting of this response; I haven't used the talk page before.)W108 (talk) 11:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)w108

I've just done the edit and I've also deleted two other paragraphs. The paragraph to do with 'brawling' was deleted because it was unreferenced (dead link) and no other evidence of the incident exists that I can find. I've tried searching various terms on Google (i.e. 'Churchie' and 'brawling'; 'Churchie', 'station' and 'Cooparoo') and I don't get anything. Additionally, the paragraph about the alleged 'rape' by the Year 9s was very poorly referenced. Neither of the two articles cited ('Two schoolboys charged over sex attack on girl, 13', from The Courier-Mail and 'Private school boys charged with rape' from Perth Now) contain 'Churchie' or 'Anglican Church Grammar School', so neither can be used as references for the claim that Churchie students carried out the attack. Also, the City News article that purportedly revealed the boys to be from Churchie is non-existent - newspaper databases reveal nothing when the title 'Boys face Brisbane court on rape charge' is searched and the Courier Mail/Quest Community Newspaper website also shows nothing for the same search. If it cannot be proven that Churchie students were involved in/carried out the rape, then these claims have no business being on the Churchie page. I've deleted both paragraphs based on Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines (WP:VERIFY).W108 (talk) 12:32, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Change to housemasters of houses
I've just read through the list of houses at Churchie and the names of the housemasters has not been updated. I'm a current student at Churchie and I know that a few of the houses have new housemasters this year.

--203.6.250.10 (talk) 02:13, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

 * Nonnotable teachers shouldn't be mentioned anyway, per WP:WPSCH/AG, so I've removed them. - danjel  (talk to me) 12:10, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

'Additional citations needed' and 'lead section' banners
Just wondering why this article, after some pretty extensive editing, still has these two banners. The banner calling for additional citations (which I note was created in 2007) seems a little unnecessary given that there are no [citation needed] tags in the entire article. All of the 'weasel words' mentioned have been removed and the article contains very few unsupported claims. Could anyone who thinks it should stay please explain why? Otherwise, it should be deleted. Also, the lead section of the article exactly mirrors those of other schools' pages that do not have a 'lead section' banner (see, for example, Geelong Grammar School, Melbourne Grammar School, Brisbane Grammar School and St Joseph's College, Gregory Terrace). Once again, this banner seems to be on this page unnecessarily. If there are any reasons as for why it exists, could they please be made clear so the lead section could be improved? If not, it should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by W108 (talk • contribs) 13:53, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

In light of the above, and since no one has given any reasons for the continued presence of the banners, I'm going to take the initiative and remove them. If someone else thinks that there are too few references/the lead section is too short, please do us a favour and improve the article instead of pasting a banner on the page for five years and waiting for someone else to do it. W108 (talk) 00:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Prestigious
In the introductory paragraphs it's stated that "Churchie, [is] widely recognised as one of Australia's most prestigious schools", yet the reference given reads "One of Brisbane's most prestigious schools". A single claim that it is one of Brisbane's most prestigious schools is hardly evidence that it is widely recognised as one of Australia's most prestigious schools. - Matthew238 (talk) 12:32, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

 * If Churchie is one of Brisbane’s most prestigious schools, then it is ridiculous to say that it is not one of Australia’s most prestigious schools. ‘Australia’s most prestigious schools’ can only consist of the most prestigious schools in the various cities within Australia. Brisbane is a city in Australia. It is therefore a logical and appropriate extension to say that one of Brisbane’s most prestigious schools qualifies as one of Australia’s most prestigious schools, unless you are implying that all the prestigious schools in Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne, Perth, Adelaide, Darwin and Hobart fill some sort of imaginary quota of schools permitted to be called ‘prestigious’, or that they are so vastly more prestigious than Churchie, that there is no room for a Brisbane school to be called so.

 * Insinuating that Churchie is not even one of Brisbane’s most prestigious schools by pointing out that reference is made to a ‘single claim’ only is even more absurd. It is a GPS school. And aside from that, why would the article call it prestigious if it is not so regarded? If you look the other sources in the references list you will notice that most of them use the same or synonymous language in reference to the school.

 * If you’re Australian, you know that it is entirely uncontroversial to refer to a school belonging to an association of leading private schools in a major capital city (e.g. the GPS schools in Queensland or New South Wales or the APS schools in Melbourne, and their girls’ schools equivalents) as ‘prestigious’; newspapers and television reports almost invariably use that adjective in reference to such schools.

 * I find it hard to believe that someone could seriously bring into question such a claim. Do your own research into Australian community attitudes towards GPS schools if you genuinely doubt the propriety of the statement 'Churchie, [is] widely recognised as one of Australia's most prestigious schools'. If you can then produce evidence that Churchie is not regarded as a prestigious school, or if your prestige-o-meter shows that it is ‘not prestigious enough’ to be referred to as ‘one of Australia’s most prestigious schools’, then perhaps your concern over the use of the word ‘Australia’ instead of ‘Brisbane’ might be valid.W108 (talk) 13:50, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

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The Cameron House

The Cameron House is a small bar, live music venue, and informal cultural centre located on Queen Street West, just west of Spadina Avenue, in the city's downtown core of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. The Cameron has a front lounge and a back room, both with the capacity for audiences of no more than sixty people. It has been described as a Toronto crossover of CBGB's and the Chelsea Hotel in New York.

History
The building that today houses the Cameron House was constructed in 1880. In that year, it was # 396 Queen Street, and the other half of the building, #398, was under construction. The land to the immediate west of the buildings was a vacant field. In 1881, Angus Cameron moved into #398 and opened a dry goods store on the premises. The other half of the building remained unoccupied. Cameron lived above the shop, his mother living nearby in one of the houses on the street that now bears her family name. By the year 1888, the shop became the “Ryan and Sullivan Tailor Shop.” In 1890, the store was vacant, but the following year, E. Hodd moved in and opened a furnishings shop. In 1895, the structure became the “John Burns Hotel.” In 1896, it became the "Cameron House." First opened as a working hotel in the early 1920s, since October 1981 the Cameron has been a community-based space for music, performance, and visual art. Launched by Paul Sannella, his sister Anne Marie Ferraro and their best friend, Herb Tookey.

Notable acts
The following notable acts have performed at The Cameron House:

• Blue Rodeo

• Jane Siberry

• Ron Sexsmith

• Molly Johnson

• Gordie Johnson

• Holly Cole

• Barenaked Ladies

• The Meligrove Band

• Lorraine Segato

• Willie P. Bennett

• The Government

• Fifth Column

• Mary Margaret O'Hara

• Handsome Ned

• The Golden Dogs

• Deanne Taylor

• Freeman Dre and the Kitchen Party

• Suitcase Sam

• Marlon Chaplin

• The Violent Brothers

Recent
House acts at the Cameron in 2005 included The Cameron Family Singers, The DoneFors, The Countrypolitans, Run With the Kittens, The Backstabbers, and Kevin Quain and the Mad Bastards. Recent acts include The Devin Cuddy Band, The Double Cuts, Colonel Tom and The American Pour, John Borra, Big Tobacco and The Pickers, David Celia, Patrick Brealey, Ferraro, Lori Yates and Hey Stella, Doug Paisley, Jay Swinn, and David Baxter.

In 2011, the Cameron House served as a launching pad for Cameron House Records, a new record label.

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Talk:Princess Marie Louise of Schleswig-Holstein

Question
The statement in the entry says that "She did, however, have a romantic male companion for many years." Is there any evidence of this? Her memoirs show no trace of this.

E.V. Lucas
Is it true that E.V. Lucas had a romantic relationship with Princess Marie-Louise? He is mentioned in her memoirs and the article on Princess Marie-Louise says that she had a relationship with an unnamed person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.36.125.143 (talk) 21:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Godfather issue
"Her godparents were The Emperor of Austria and The Queen of Hanover." The Emperor of Austria? Is there a source for this? Komitsuki (talk) 06:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


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AGM-79 Blue Eye

The AGM-79 Blue Eye was an air-to-ground missile prototype, developed by the United States in the 1960s

Design and development
The Blue Eye was a development of the AGM-12 Bullpup, intended to provide a more advanced homing system. The Bullpup was manually steered onto the target, whereas the guidance system in the Blue Eye was an optical area correlation seeker. A TV camera in the missile's nose provided an image to the pilot; he used this to select the target and lock the missile on before firing. Once launched the area correlation system could detect any deviation of the picture compared to the locked image and correct the missile's course accordingly. The Blue Eye used the same airframe as the AGM-12C/E. A radar altimeter was fitted to allow the warhead to explode in an air burst mode. Firing trials took place in late 1968, with the prototype missile designated XAGM-79A. After several years of development the missile was cancelled in the early 1970s.

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Rip Kirby, drawn by Alex Raymond.

Fair use for Rip Kirby
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 * 4) This image is used on various websites, so its use on Wikipedia does not make it significantly more accessible or visible than it already is.
 * 5) The image is being used in an informative way and should not detract from the original work.
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Myfanwy Waring

Myfanwy Waring (born 1977) is a Welsh actress, best known for her role as PC Amber Johannsen in the ITV drama series The Bill. Her most recent on screen role was a minor role in BBC Birmingham's daytime soap opera Doctors playing Radio producer Cerys Williams.

Biography
Waring was born in Dyfed in 1977. She studied acting at Rose Bruford College in London.

Waring made her screen debut as a credited extra in Club Le Monde (2002). She next appeared in 2003's The Modernista, a short film produced as part of the 48 Hour Film Project. Waring played "Woman" alongside Louis Waymouth as "Man".

Over the next few years, she appeared in small roles in dot the i, One Man and His Dog, Animal, and Ripper 2: Letter from Within, the sequel to 2001's Ripper.

Her first television role was that of PC Amber Johannsen in the ITV police procedural The Bill. She appeared on the show from December 2004 through December 2005.

Waring has also been featured in commercials for numerous companies and products:

 * Fiat Punto
 * Nicorette
 * Confused.com
 * Whiskas
 * Ikea - Living Together TVC; 2013
 * Go Compare 2014 (Llandofsavingmoney....gogocompare)

Waring appeared in a music video for the song Portent by the Southampton, England-based band The Psychics.

After leaving The Bill, Waring appeared in the films A Dogges Tale and Balkanski sindrom.

, Waring is currently touring the United Kingdom performing Come On, Jeeves, a farcical P. G. Wodehouse comedy. She performs alongside Anita Harris, Victor Spinetti, and Derren Nesbitt. In June 2008, Waring co-starred in the web series Cell on Crackle.

In December 2004, Waring avoided serious injury when a Sri Lankan resort she was staying at was hit by a tsunami triggered by the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake. Waring, who was swimming when the wave hit, was swept up by the wave, but was able to grab onto a tree and hold on until the waters receded.

Filmography

 * Club Le Monde (2002) as Extra
 * The Modernista (2003) as Woman
 * dot the i (2003) as Carmen's Friend
 * Casualty (2004) as Lisa Clough
 * One Man and His Dog (2004) as Tanya
 * Ripper 2: Letter from Within (2004) as Sally Trigg
 * The Bill (2004–2005) as PC Amber Johannsen
 * Animal (2005) as Girlfriend Technician
 * A Dogges Tale (2006) as Woman
 * Balkanski sindrom (2007) as Jill
 * Casualty (2007) as Tanya Stokes
 * Portent (music video) (2007)

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Legions of Death

Legions of Death is a one or two-player strategy video game published for the Commodore 64, Amstrad CPC and ZX Spectrum personal computers. It requires players to control the navies of ancient Rome and Carthage during the Punic Wars, in order to conquer the Mediterranean Sea.

Gameplay
Legions of Death is a one or two-player strategy game set during the Punic Wars between ancient Rome and Carthage. In single-player mode the player controls the fleet of Carthage, in two-player mode one player controls the Roman navy while the other controls the Carthaginian fleet. Each player must try to destroy their opponent's fleet and gain control of the Mediterranean.

At the start of play each player receives a number of points to construct their navy using a combination of faster biremes and triremes, along with various heavier combat ships, up to Heptares class. Additional points may be spent to upgrade individual ships, such as adding marine detachments, archer platforms, and boarding hooks. Lighter ships can be used to collect funds from outlying ports and transport it back to the player's home port, while heavier ships are needed to counter the other player's attacking fleet, as they can more effectively ram and sink enemy vessels.

Gameplay is turn-based, with movement resolved simultaneously, and plays out on a square grid. Ships may accelerate or decelerate each turn by one speed point, up to a speed limit which depends on the class of ship. Ships may turn up to 45 degrees maximum per unit of movement (so no right-angle turns). This movement system adds a unique tactical element in which the player must carefully plan out routes and speeds several turns ahead in order to intercept enemy ships, and bring ships into harbours without crashing.

Reception
Legions of Death received generally positive reviews.

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Interactive EasyFlow

Easyflow was one of the first diagramming and flow charting software packages available for personal computers. It was produced by HavenTree Software Limited of Kingston, Ontario Canada. HavenTree's mark on history for its product, which was subsequently renamed Interactive Easyflow, is its notable plain-English license.

History
HavenTree was formed in 1981. Easyflow, a DOS-based software package, was the initial name of the company's flagship offering, which was non-interactive and introduced in 1983. "EasyFlow-Plus" was announced in 1984. Interactive EasyFlow - so named to distinguish it from the preceding products - was offered from 1985 until the early 1990s, when the company dropped the "Interactive" adjective in favour of simply "HavenTree EasyFlow". It offered the software for sale until it filed for protection under Canada's Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act in April 1996. The assets of the company were purchased by SPSS Inc. in 1998.

Historical significance
HavenTree and EasyFlow is mostly remembered today for its counter-cultural disclaimer and end-user license agreement. Both were written in plain English and not in legalese, enabling end users to understand better the terms of these legal agreements, and emphasizing the problems with modern software licensing. Excerpts from the license and disclaimer are included into the fortune databases of many Linux and BSD distributions.

Patenting
Patent entries are dated in the 1990s.

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Coral Bay, Western Australia

Coral Bay is a small coastal settlement located 1200 km north of Perth, in the Shire of Carnarvon in the Gascoyne region of Western Australia.

Bordered by the Ningaloo Reef, it is a popular tourist destination and largely owes its survival to revenue derived from wildlife tourism. Coral Bay is a unique location in that the reef fringes the water's edge, making it easily accessible for snorkellers. The climate is arid, and waters are generally warm year-round due to the subtropical nature of the area. The 2016 census recorded a population of 207.

Geography
Coral Bay is located on the North West Cape of the Gascoyne region of Western Australia. It sits adjacent to Ningaloo Reef, the world's largest fringing reef system, which covers 604500 ha of the eastern Indian Ocean and stretches over 300 km along the coast of Western Australia. Coral Bay's geographical coordinates are -23.14472°N, 113.77639°W. The closest towns are Carnarvon, 238 km to the south, and Exmouth, 152 km to the north. To the east, Coral Bay is bordered by the Lyndon pastoral station. Approximately 43 km south along the eastern boundary is the wetland system Lake Macleod. The town is accessed via Coral Bay Road, which connects to Minilya–Exmouth Road. The closest major highway is the North West Coastal Highway.

Geology
Soils in Coral Bay are sandy and calcareous due to oxide leaching. Coral Bay forms part of the Carnarvon Basin, an area consisting of undulating sand plains that slant toward the ocean, resulting in a low relief open drainage pattern. The surrounding coastline is characterised by limestone platforms. Coral Bay also lies upon the Bullara Sunklands, a depression that runs along the eastern coast of Western Australia from Shark Bay to Exmouth Gulf. The natural vegetation in the area consists of the spinifex, wattle and poverty bush shrub varieties. There is also a strong mangrove presence with Avicennia marina being particularly dominant. Buffel is the most common grass in the region. In the Ningaloo Marine Park more than 200 species of coral fauna can be found, alongside animal species such as green and hawksbill turtles, humpbacks whales, dugongs and whale sharks.

History
The Gascoyne region was originally populated by the Thalandji Aboriginal people. Evidence found by archaeologists indicates that Indigenous people have been present in the Ningaloo region for over 32,000 years. The world's oldest beaded necklace was discovered in the Mandu Mandu Creek Rock-Shelter, alongside camp fire residue in the layers of surrounding limestone caves.

The first known European sighting of the North West Cape was made in early 1618 by a crew member of the Dutch ship Zeewolf. Later that year Captain Jacobz of the ship Mauritius made contact with land, however the district remained largely uninhabited for decades following due to its dry climate and remote location.

The earliest recorded European activity in the Coral Bay region was at Mauds Landing, which acted as a shipping point for wool, sheep and cattle from 1884 to 1946. The port was named after the schooner Maud, whose captain discovered the site 2 km north of Coral Bay. The area saw the construction of a jetty in 1896, followed by a tramway, a well and a wool-shed. A hotel and store operated at the site between 1911 and 1921. In 1947, however, Mauds Landing was closed as a coastal port due to funding shortages and its constant need for repairs. The surrounding area formed Cardabia Station, owned by Charles French, which encompassed Bills Bay. The cove was named after his wife Ruby May French, or "Auntie Billie" as she was more commonly known. In 1933 the first building was constructed by Jack McKenna as a holiday retreat.

It was not until the late 1960s that Bills Bay began to form a functioning township, when a section of Cardabia Station was sold to Ken Ryan. Upon this he built a caravan park, a hotel and a service station. The town name Coral Bay likely derived from the Coral Bay Hotel built by Ryan. The area was visited a few years later in 1973 by Bill and Alison Brogan who recognised the potential of the region to become a popular tourist destination. Bill purchased a transportable building, a charter yacht and a sight-seeing boat which he called Miss Coral Bay I. The 1980s saw the formation of a housing estate and the tapping of artesian groundwater.

Economy
Coral Bay's economy is primarily built on nature-based tourism due to its close proximity to the Ningaloo Reef. In 2016 the Australian Bureau of Statistics reported that more than 70% of the local workforce was employed in tourism or industries related to it.

Coral Bay is marketed widely as a premier holiday destination and the town offers a number of tourist activities such as whale watching, snorkelling and swimming with manta rays. In 2004 The Ningaloo Coast Regional Strategy limited visitor numbers to 3600 overnight tourists, accommodation for 400 semi-permanent workers and 500 day visitors in order to preserve the Ningaloo Reef. In 2019 this was increased from 4,500 to 5,300 to promote the region's growth. Estimates based on daily spending indicate Coral Bay hosts approximately 110,000 visitors annually. Visitors mostly comprised Western Australia based families, in comparison to nearby Exmouth, which attracts a large number of international and inter-state tourists.

Glass-bottom boat tours are available year-round and whale watching tours are available from June to October. Tourists are also provided with the opportunity to go reef fishing, beach fishing and light tackle game fishing outside of sanctuary zones. Manta ray snorkel tours also operate out of Coral Bay. Scenic flights, quad bike tours and catamaran tours are among other activities visitors can engage in. Further tourist attractions in the surrounding area include:

 * Oyster bridge
 * Paradise Beach
 * Bills Bay
 * Skeleton Bay Reef Shark Nursery
 * Purdy Point
 * Point Maud & Mauds Landing

Facilities
Coral Bay sources its water from artesian wells, desalinated for domestic use. The town has three 275 kW wind turbines and a power station with seven low-load diesel engines. Waste-water and sewerage infrastructure are in place. The town also supports an airstrip suitable for light aircraft and a maritime facility with a double boat ramp, two finger jetties, a service jetty and 11 dinghy pens. Coral Bay has two caravan parks and a resort.

There is a small shopping arcade which contains a supermarket, a bakery, tourist shops, and the Coral Bay Nursing Post which provides healthcare services to both residents and visitors. A doctor is available one day a week for residents only. The town also contains several restaurants.

Heritage listings

 * Site Of Mauds Landing
 * Ningaloo Marine Area
 * Ningaloo Coast
 * French's Shack

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Kanthal (alloy)

Kanthal is the trademark for a family of iron-chromium-aluminium (FeCrAl) alloys used in a wide range of resistance and high-temperature applications. Kanthal FeCrAl alloys consist of mainly iron, chromium (20–30%) and aluminium (4–7.5 %). The first Kanthal FeCrAl alloy was developed by Hans von Kantzow in Hallstahammar, Sweden. The alloys are known for their ability to withstand high temperatures and having intermediate electric resistance. As such, it is frequently used in heating elements. The trademark Kanthal is owned by Alleima AB.

Characteristics
For heating, resistance wire must be stable in air when hot. Kanthal FeCrAl alloy forms a protective layer of aluminium oxide (alumina). Aluminium oxide has high thermal conductivity but is an electrical insulator, so special techniques may be required to make good electrical connections.

Ordinary Kanthal FeCrAl alloy has a melting point of 1425 °C. Special grades can be used as high as 1500 °C.

Depending on specific composition the resistivity is about 1.4μΩ·m and temperature coefficient is +49ppm/K ($49 K−1$).

Uses
Kanthal is used in heating elements due to its flexibility, durability and tensile strength. Its uses are widespread, for example in toasters, home and industrial heaters, kilns and diffusion heaters (used in the making of crystalline silicon).

Unlike alternative types of metal such as Nichrome, Kanthal is durable enough to withstand the temperatures needed, but flexible and cheap enough to be practical.

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Catalina Castaño

Catalina Castaño Álvarez (born 7 July 1979) is a Colombian former tennis player. Her highest singles ranking is world No. 35 which she achieved July 2006.

In her career, she won ten titles on the ITF Women's Circuit, six in singles and four in doubles, as well as one doubles title on both the WTA Tour and Challenger Tour.

Castaño defeated top-20 players such as Nicole Vaidišová, Anna-Lena Grönefeld, Patty Schnyder, Paola Suárez, Li Na and Lucie Šafářová. She was coached by Peruvian-born British citizen Pablo Giacopelli since 2004.

1999–2004
In 1999 she won her first ITF title in Santiago. The following year she won two ITF titles in Midlothian and Cali. In 2001, she reached the quarterfinals in her home tournament of Bogotá, Colombia (Tier III). In 2002, Castaño advanced the semifinals in Bogotá. She reached four ITF finals, winning two of them - in Gorizia and Campobasso. She won 39 matches in the year and lost 18. In 2004, she reached the quarterfinals in Bogotá for the third time. She was the last player to be defeated by Martina Navratilova at Wimbledon in the ladies singles, losing the match 0–6, 1–6. She won her sixth ITF title in Orbetello.

2005
In April, she won five matches in Miami (Tier I) including back-to-back wins over world No. 19, Paola Suárez, and world No. 13, Patty Schnyder, before falling to world No. 9, Venus Williams, in three sets in the round of 16. In May, she won four matches in Rome (Tier I) before losing to world No. 10, Vera Zvonareva, in the round of 16. In August, she reached her first ever WTA Tour final in Budapest. She lost to the top seed Anna Smashnova in the final, in straight sets. In October, she reached the semifinals in Seoul (Tier IV) but lost to the eventual champion Nicole Vaidišová.

2006
She commenced January with a semifinal showing in Canberra (Tier IV) and passed the first round of the Australian Open for the first time. In Charleston in mid-April, Catalina reached her first Tier I quarterfinal, after defeating Ashley Harkleroad, Nicole Vaidišová and Marion Bartoli. Her two-sets win over Vaidišová, who was ranked 14 at the time, was her best win of the year. The following week in Berlin, Catalina beat Anna-Lena Grönefeld, who was ranked 14 at the time. It was her second win over a top-15 player in as many weeks. In May, she reached the quarterfinals in Istanbul (Tier III) for the first time. She reached her highest ranking of No. 35 on July 16.

2007
Catalina commenced the new season with a solid start, recording two quarterfinal appearances at the Gold Coast and Hobart in January. At the Gold Coast, she defeated Li Na who was ranked 21 at the time.

2014
Castaño retired from professional tennis after a diagnosis of breast cancer.

Head-to-head record
Players who have been ranked world No. 1 are in boldface.
 * Martina Navratilova - 0–1
 * Nadia Petrova - 0–1
 * Serena Williams - 0–1

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Talk:Marion, South Australia

Comment
Much of what is in this suburb article needs to be transferred to the City of Marion article! The article itself refers to attractions that do not actually exist in the suburb of Marion, but the city of Marion. - Michaelgabrielsen 01:47, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Referencing
I removed the ref-required tag as I have fixed the highlight citation, but I'd like to add more references elsewhere in the article. I'll leave it off for the moment, but the article still needs additional work, which I'll tackle if no-one else does. Bilby (talk) 13:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Rip Kirby

Rip Kirby is an American comic strip created by Alex Raymond and Ward Greene featuring the adventures of private detective Rip Kirby. The strip ran from 1946 to 1999 and was in the hands of artist John Prentice for more than 40 years.

Publication history
After World War II, Raymond did not return to work on any of his previous successful comic strips (Flash Gordon, Jungle Jim, Secret Agent X-9), but instead began work on a new strip in which ex-Marine Rip Kirby returns from World War II and goes to work as a private detective, sometimes accompanied by his girlfriend, fashion model Judith Lynne "Honey" Dorian. (Her given name and nickname were borrowed from the names of Raymond's three daughters.)

Rip Kirby was based on the suggestion by King Features editor Ward Greene that Raymond try a "detective-type" strip. First published on March 4, 1946, the strip was given significant promotion by the syndicate, even including fully painted promotional art, a rarity in comic-strip promotions. The strip enjoyed success, and Raymond received the Reuben Award in 1949.

During Raymond's years on the strip, the stories were initially written by Ward Greene, and later, following Greene's death, by Fred Dickenson. Some sequences were also written by Raymond. In 1956, Raymond was killed in a car crash. King Features quickly needed a replacement, and found it in John Prentice. Dickenson continued to write the series until the mid-1980s, when he was forced to retire for health reasons. Prentice then took over the writing along with others. Prentice kept the strip going until his own death in 1999. The strip ended with Rip's retirement on June 26, 1999. Prentice received the National Cartoonists Society Story Comic Strip Award for 1966, 1967, and 1986 for his work on the strip.

Over the years of publication, the strip was ghosted and assisted by many artists and writers, including Frank Bolle (who completed the last episode), Al Williamson, and Gray Morrow.

Characters and story
Comics historian Don Markstein notes how the character of Remington "Rip" Kirby broke away from the usual pulp detective archetype: "Circulation rose steadily during the strip's first few years — even tho' Rip wasn't the kind of private detective they were used to from pulp fiction. This one did more cogitating than fisticuffing, and smoked a leisurely pipe while he did it. He had a frail, balding assistant, Desmond (a former burglar), instead of a two-fisted sidekick. Instead of carrying on with an endless series of female clients, he had a steady girlfriend, Honey Dorian. If that wasn't enough, he even wore glasses! Even Kerry Drake didn't depart so far from the standard. If Rip was more sophisticated and urbane than the average fictional private eye, that's okay, because he was very successful — both for himself and for the people who wrote, drew and distributed him."

Reception
Writer Mike W. Barr described Rip Kirby as a "great syndicated detective strip." He added "Raymond's artistry gave the world populated by Kirby & co. a lushness and fluidity that the comics pages had never seen".

Reprints
In 1948, Rip Kirby strips were reprinted in issues #51 and #54 of David McKay Publications's Feature Book. Issue #51 included a biography of Alex Raymond with a photograph showing him sketching an unnamed model for Honey Dorian. In 1980, Pacific Comics Club reprinted the 1946-1950 strips in 16 comic books. In 1988, Pioneer published 6 books and 2 more collections the following year.

Internationally Published Reprints
Some of the Rip Kirby comic strips were reprinted in India as comic books in the popular comic book series called Indrajal Comics.

The strip was published in a dozen comic book magazines in former Yugoslavia. In 1983 Radio Television of Serbia produced an educational series about comics, which included live action sequences featuring Nebojsa Krstic as Rip Kirby and Predrag Milinkovic as his butler. Milinkovic looked the part insomuch that he was nicknamed Desmond. From 2011 to 2019 Croatian publisher Fibra reprinted the complete 1946-1999 strip in 19 volumes.

IDW Publishing
In 2009, IDW Publishing started to reprint the Rip Kirby strip as part of its The Library of American Comics. The first four volumes contain a complete reprint of Raymond's stories including the last one, finished by Prentice. Volume 5 continues with Prentice's work.

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Label of Nicholsons' Brown Ale.

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Talk:Tempest 2000

There are 2 reception sections.
I will join them together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.49.6 (talk) 03:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Unofficial versions
While Wikipedia Links Typhoon 2001 and Tsunami 2010 to Tempest 3000, the authors link the games (both by name and technically) to Tempest 2000. Yura87 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC).

Yiff!
Minter is well known for his animal related fandom, Llamasoft, Flossie the sheep, Attack of the Mutant Camels, etc, etc.

Yiff, in this context - especially given the animal related antics also seen in T2K mean that this is not an out-of context insertion, and a link should be left in to explain the use of the term.

Let's also note that "Yiff" has been in the article - and linked - for many a moon - it is the removal, of the link that is being contested, not the insertion. As per BRD, it should stay in situ while discussed. Chaheel Riens (talk) 11:53, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Additional: If the term really does have no context connecting it to T2K, then it's even more important to link it so casual readers know the meaning.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:39, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Additional to the additional - I've asked that you discuss your changes. Please do so.  I've outlined the reasons for inclusion above - Yak has a fondness for ruminants, and there is no reason not to link to the term to explain what it means when the context is clear - it refers to furry creatures.  Yak refers to Yiffing here in an interview, and again here.
 * Chaheel Riens (talk) 22:24, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Source

 * https://archive.org/details/edgeuk148/page/n93

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Talk:Timeline of Philippine history

1511
Magellan and the Portugese may have reached Mindanao in 1511 from west, and from their base in India. In this same year, they reached the Spice Islands in the south. If they did, they did not bother to record it.--Jondel 09:35, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Kalantiaw entry deleted
Deleted from list since it is a forgery. Gubernatoria (talk) 03:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1433 - Kalantiaw, ruler of Aklan, said to have published the oldest surviving native legal code on the islands. The code was later shown by historian William Henry Scott to be a forgery dating to no earlier than 1914.

January 2011 cleanup edits
This edit came up on my watchlist, which apparently relocated an unsupported assertion apparently expressing a POV held by one anonymous WP editor from one part of a section headed "Another timeline" to another. The "Another timeline" section had been inserted by this edit by a previous anonymous edit from a different IP address. That section was entirely unsupported (except for a couple of supporting cites re the change of date of the Independence Day holiday which look like they were probably added by me at some point in the past), and the section did not fit well with the article as it stood prior to its insertion — indeed, it seemed to take issue with some of the article content present prior to its addition. I have boldly removed it.

I've also removed a badly formatted unsupported assertion inserted anonymously by this edit.

I note that the content of one section is formatted as a table, while the other sections are formatted as bulletted lists. This should probably be regularized.

I've also inserted a Refimprove tag. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 04:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Table formatting problems
In this edit, I fixed one serious table formatting problem.

This article, however, has a large number of existing unrepaired table formatting problems where an empty table cell has not been provided for rows which do not provide references. I see two alternatives for fixing this: (1) add the empty cells, and (2) remove the References column and put thee <Ref>s immediately after the Event assertions which they support. The table currently contains at least one entry in the form of the second alternative (see the year 1457), and that is the alternative which I would favor because the first alternativee invites future occurrances of this problem as new entries are added to the table without supporting references and without providing an empty table cell for the supporting references not supplied. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) `

Note to the author:
The timeline is a bit weird. The dates are correct but the headings aren't. Just check out the headings and you would see it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.46.236 (talk) 04:13, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Request to Improve References ao December 2016
Hi. I've noticed that this timeline is poorly referenced, and that a few unsourced fringe theories have found their way here. Since this page is an overview, it shouldn't be hard to find orthodox, reliable Philippine History references. This is a request to the community to please add sources. As you can see, I've just now added a Refimprove template, which ought to remain there until everything is properly referenced. Thanks. - Alternativity (talk) 06:36, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Alleged US Govt promises on April 24 1898
Here, I've removed a table row reading:

No supporting source is cited for this. I believe this refers to an alleged occurrence described at (see also footnote 6 on page 162; page numbers here are the PDF page numbers) and in other sources (e.g., ). This source I have cited describes meetings claimed by Aguinaldo between himself and U.S. Naval Commander E.P. Wood, who was commander of the gunboat Petrel. Supposedly, Wood was acting in behalf of Commodore George Dewey. Even presuming that the account in the cited source is accurate, neither Wood nor Dewey had authority to make promises of the sort asserted on behalf of the United States government. Also, though the source I've cited does not give a date for the meeting described, the April 24, 1898 date given by the removed table row was one day (if U.S. time) to two days (if Hong Kong time, and considering the International Date Line) prior to the U.S. Congress declaration on April 25 that a state of war existed between the US and Spain (I note in passing that the table gives April 26 as the date of this declaration). Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 07:26, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2018
Year (BCE) 58.71.120.251 (talk) 13:12, 13 November 2018 (UTC) Hariboneagle927 please accept my edit in Timeline of Philippine History, please replace the old one with this new one
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — KuyaBriBri Talk 15:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅., yes, it should have been clearer, but in this case, there was inconsistent use of BC/BCE in the article.  IP, in the future, please be more precise about what you want to change.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:35, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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Including Sri Lanka as part of native Hindu areas
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Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2024
I would like to fix a few grammar mistakes I found in the 1980s section. Yunus H. Abdulla (talk) 04:41, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

 * @Yunus H. Abdulla What are they? You need to include them in your request. —C.Fred (talk) 04:44, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @C.Fred sure. November 22 1986. April 18, 1987. July (No date or what day in July.) 1987. And November 19, 1989. Yunus H. Abdulla (talk) 08:36, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ @Yunus H. Abdulla
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 * 1987-04-18: Fixed spacing error and comma splice
 * 1987-07: Fixed spacing error and copyedited sentence
 * 1989-11-19: Fixed spacing error
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 * Hi @C.Fred, I'd like to point out some errors and oddities in the article again. Which are: May 19, 1571, (Rajah Sulayman's name might have been mispelled as "Suliman". Though I'm not certain whether this was intentional or not.). March 17, 1764, (It's just de Anda, when it should probably Simon de Anda.). July 7, 1862 (The anchor redirects me to another Salvador Valdes. The Cuban politician and Trade union leader, instead of the Governor-General.). June 7, 1869 (Which redirects me to the article of racing driver Manuel Maldonado Vargas.). December 12, 1888. 1912, (No date.). May 21, 1967. December 24, 1974. June 7, 2002. April 20, 2007. And October (No date), 2009. Yunus H. Abdulla (talk) 13:03, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Yunus H. Abdulla
 * 1571-05-19: I can't verify the spelling one way or the other; this may ultimately be a transliteration issue.
 * 1764-03-17: Use full name, Simón de Anda y Salazar.
 * 1862-07-07: Unlinked Salvador Valdés, since there is no article on him.
 * 1869-06-07: Unlinked Manual Maldonado, who also does not have an article.
 * 1888-12-12: Fixed spacing and comma.
 * 1912: Fixed spacing.
 * 1967-05-21: Fixed spacing and grammar/word choice.
 * 1974-12-24: Fixed spacing.
 * 2002-06-07: Fixed spacing and comma usage.
 * 2007-04-20: Fixed spacing and grammar.
 * 2009-10: Copyedited.
 * —C.Fred (talk) 18:49, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:V Festival

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Cleaned up spelling and Grammar - overuse of apostrophes!

Criticisms
Definately needs to be a criticisms section. V Festival has a reputation for being soulless, sanitised, expensive and overly commercial. It has been in the news for confiscating water from festival-goers and forcing them to buy own brand water for £2+ a bottle. 2007 saw 8 hour queues to get on site and 2-3 hour queues just to leave the carpark afterwards. Of course this all amounts to hearsay and would need to be linked to various reports and articles online. Vorpaul 11:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I attended the Reading Festival in 2006 and everything you mentioned above could be applied to that festival as well. I think it's a staple of music festivals to have promoters or sponsors try and make maximum profit while treating the ticket buying public as cattle. --Factorylad (talk) 14:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree - the 'Atmosphere and reputation' section is overly positive and doesn't seem to give a balanced overview. I will probably change it to 'Criticisms and reputation' and add some details like mentioned above. Houghster (talk) 21:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Added a note to this section explaining the Lady GaGa situation. Can't find any articles on this, but I saw it with my own eyes. Anybody find any sources? Thought it's relevant as it ties in with the greedy discussion and oversale of tickets, yet couldn't really point this out as it's not concrete, just opinion.Mjones87 (talk) 20:10, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Virgin brands
swapped around the category from Virgin Radio to Virgin Group. The former isn't really a category, so I stuck it into "see also".

Deano 14:38, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

This article says the the first V Festival had a leg held at Leeds. I bleive this is wrong as the Northern Leg was held at Warrington, I was there.

Was this on ITV once?
Just wondering. Jimmy93211 80.229.241.200 16:02, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Lists
There are a number of typos - incorrect capitalisation etc. - that need sorting.

But all these long lists with all that white space - we need to tidy that up somehow.

What about linking to artists ? -- Beardo 14:49, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I have broken the list with subheadings for ease of editing. Some of the commentary looks like it may have been copied, though. -- Beardo 15:02, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Gatecrashing
One of the scams when I went was finding someone who could slip off their wrist band, them staying inside the arena, someone else keeping their wristband on, taking the removed one out of the arena and giving it to someone waiting outside who would slip it on.

However, is this section entirely relevant? Spugmeister 15:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:V festivallgoo.jpg
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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Atmosphere and reputation
These "rougher edges" include crowd trouble, alcohol and drug use, mud-bathing and pelting of acts at other festivals such as Reading - although this does not mean these festivals are anarchic or non-commercial.

Although this seems to be a popular view, after attending V2008, I can honestly say the majority of the above happened at the festival considering the state some people were in. --Factorylad (talk) 14:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

for
You need to put the hatnotes into one undefined. If you can't do this, then make the appropriate change on the (appropriate) template, or make a new template for this purpose. This will save server resources.96.53.149.117 (talk) 07:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Removed Essex Importance Tag
As event is not solely focused on Essex.

Marked bit about chavfest as POV
This bit either needs an external source or should be removed. I've been a couple of times and it is bloody horrible but this is just one person's opinion with no citation. NBeddoe (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:14, 18 July 2011 (UTC).

How about 50,000 - 100,000 people at Hylands who say this every year? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.84.1.3 (talk) 13:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

And their opinions are all published and citable I suppose? NBeddoe (talk) 21:11, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

PR Puff
"Its weekend format, low queuing times and professional organisation have given it a loyal audience."

It must be a completely V festival than the one I used to attend. But that's just my POV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.238.1.135 (talk) 13:14, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Alabama 3 at V97
Does anyone know of any reliable source to prove that Alabama 3 were in fact performing at V97 in Chelmsford on Sunday 17th August 1997?

I was there, went to the dance tent to see Bentley Rhythm Ace and was instead irked to discover instead that some band calling themselves Alabama 3 were there, playing some track I'd never heard of called "Woke Up This Morning". So I'm fairly certain they were there, even though they don't show up on the official lineup poster nor in the Wikipedia list of acts for V97.

There are various mentions of them at V97 in forums, such as this mention by lemonjelly on 18th November 2011 (post #1250; I can't get a direct, static link to the actual post to work, for some reason). But casual mentions in blogs or forums won't be valid references for use in Wikipedia.

Is this a fever dream, or is there reliable evidence out there?--Bob (talk) 19:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

title: Talk:V Festival