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 * Polish Wikipedians' notice board--Witkacy 13:16, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Björk and Harmony Korine did collaborate on "Harm of Will" on Vespertine
Ah, sorry, I thought someone got it wrong and missed seeing Korine's name as a contributor on the liner notes of the album. Thanks for the information, I didn't realize they were friends and wrote the song together with Guy Sigsworth.  Unsigned message from 67.80.95.46, 28 August 2005

Faustyna Kowalska
Dzieki, dobra robota :)--Witkacy 00:47, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Warszawa
Czołem! Sama idea takiego zdjęcia nie jest zła, choć ja osobiście uważam tabelkę za ważniejszą. Natomiast w przypadku Warszawy na pewno trzeba by się zastanowić, czy najbardziej charakterystyczną częścią miasta jest właśnie pajac - i to na tak kiepskim zdjęciu. Poza tym, jeśli rzeczywiście należy tam umieścić zdjęcie (choć wolałbym niżej), to trzeba też przesunąć tabelkę. Inaczej sam tekst na moim ekranie zajmuje ledwie 1/4 szerokości ekranu...

Tak czy inaczej - osobiście wolę tabelki, tak jak na setce innych stron o polskich miastach. Zdjęcie byłoby dobre, jeśli mogłoby coś powiedzieć o ogólnym wyglądzie miasta, co w przypadku Warszawy jest niemożliwe - mało jest miast na świecie z takimi kontrastami... Halibutt 13:56, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Not bad taste
It's no more bad taste than including the birth and death in brackets as follows (April 7, 1979 - ). It's a standardised infobox template. I must disagree with you strongly. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:00, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I have made a new infobox, but find it a bit rich that you could not make one yourself instead of just reverting every damn article I added it to. Not impressed. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:17, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, wasn't aware of this. However, why didn't you create the infoboxes yourself? This just caused more work for me, and I have a slow computer :( Sorry for getting snippy, but reverting without compromise often annoys me.  - Ta bu shi da yu 03:20, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Template:Infobox Biography living. Didn't know you didn't know how to create infoboxes... now I understand! - Ta bu shi da yu 03:34, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Diva cleanup?
Hi. I placed the cleanup tag on Diva, as two things could be done to impove it. Either: I prefer the first idea. It would look something like this:
 * Keep the primary article about women singers at Diva, and add a disambiguation notice at the top, leading to Diva (disambiguation) which lists the other meanings of the word. This would mean the "Other meaning" section would be removed, and put into the disambiguation page.
 * Or, make Diva a pure disambiguation page, and move the article about women singers to another name, and link to it from the original page.

Diva

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

 * This article is about female singers considered divas. For other uses, see Diva (disambiguation).

Diva is the Italian word for "goddess", etc, etc...

I feel this make the page much neater, and would help visitors to more easily find the meaning of "diva" they want. --Daniel Lawrence 09:00, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Vote on moving Lost (2004 television series) to Lost (TV series)
Hi. Just a quick note that we're voting (again) on renaming/moving the Lost (2004 television series) article, this time to the shorter Lost (TV series). As you were a participant in the previous discussion/vote, please register your support or opposition here: Talk:Lost (2004 television series) Thanks! LeFlyman 05:34, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

persistent vandal
He is:

Antero Niittymäki
I created the page, with Niittymaki redirecting. A month or a little less ago, some people in the WP:Hockey project decided they did not want diacritics used on En.WP so they would move pages to illustrate their point to get a vote going... Anyways thanks for your support for diacritics on En.WP! Hazelorb 21:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Imminent renaming of Polish monarchs
I am encouraged by your letter, "I object to this proposal," on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (standard letters with diacritics), to bring your attention to User:Francis Schonken's proposal imminently to change Polish monarchs' names from the current correct renditions to his own versions. I think the proposed changes would be disastrous. logologist|Talk 10:52, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Teresa Ciepły
I reworded the article, shortening sentences and putting her athletic achievements in order of the date they were won. I have moved birthplace and place of death out of the first paragraph, in accordance with Manual of Style (biographies). Finally, I have added a more verifiable source into the External links section, for her 1962 bronze at 100m. Kind regards, Sliggy 23:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that reference to the Manual of Style regarding birthplace etc. should be Manual of Style (dates and numbers). Kind regards, Sliggy 00:02, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about your update to the medal template. I'll be sure to use that in the future. Kind regards, Sliggy 20:55, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Medal template use in non-olympic contexts
I noticed when editing a page that uses Template:MedalTopEAA (European track and field (athletics) championships medal table top) that Template:MedalGold, Template:MedalSilver, and Template:MedalBronze have the undesirable side-effect of adding the page to an olympic medal category.

So I created new templates just for use in non-olympic contexts: Template:MedalGoldGeneric, Template:MedalSilverGeneric, and Template:MedalBronzeGeneric which don't do any adding to categories.

I went ahead and updated all the pages affected by this that I found linking to Template:MedalTopEAA, but I don't know about other non-olympic medal table contexts.

(This pertains to your edits on Linford Christie and Sebastian Coe, Baron Coe when you cleaned up the medal tables.) -- Mareklug  talk  20:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Oooh...good catch! I hadn't thought about that.  Actually, I was entirely unaware of those categories...seems like someone added those after the fact.  I know that the  template is the only one that I created.  I'm unsure if anyone else created anything different.  Maybe for each  template, we could have  so that we can add appropriate categories...sound like a good idea?  I'm sure there aren't too many widespread competitions that give out gold, silver, and bronze medals. tiZom(2¢)  23:57, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I looked in the template index starting with "MedalTop" and Template:MedalTopEAA is the only one there beside the two Olympic ones (standard and the one for pictures). I'm not sure how to look for templates for other competitions; there may not be any.  For now I hesitate to adopt a policy that unnecessarily spawns templates -- the Olympic medal templates do the special category adding to Olympic medal categories, yes, but there may be no need for that for other competitions.  For now, I'd say, let's just remember to use Template:MedalGoldGeneric (and its Silver and Bronze variants) with non-Olympic competitions.  And yes, the idea of giving out gold, silver and bronze medals is a generic idea -- in sports and otherwise -- and includes such things as World Championships, European Championships, Commonwealth Games, Pan-Am Games in many sports and other regional championships as well as various national competions.  Chances are they all merely need what the Template:MedalGoldGeneric, Template:MedalSilverGeneric and Template:MedalBronzeGeneric provide: formatting a single row in a medal table with no side-effects.  -- Mareklug  talk  00:25, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment to anyone reading The above distinction is now moot, since it was decided to remove automatic Olympic medal categorization via Template:MedalGold, Template:MedalSilver, and Template:MedalBronze, due to undesirable lack of sort key in those additions. So now all 3 pairs of "Medal " templates are equivalent -- all they do is format the row of the medal table, and nothing else.  So it goes.   Of course, who knows what the Olympic Wiki project people may think up to do retroactively to any page that uses Template:MedalGold etc., so it's still safest to use Template:MedalGoldGeneric for non-Olympic medal tables. -- Mareklug  talk  21:51, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:BiathlonAt2006WinterOlympics and the various Biathlon pages
Hello. I don't think Template:BiathlonAt2006WinterOlympics belongs on the main page for biathlon at the 2006 Games, Biathlon at the 2006 Winter Olympics, that normally resides in the Category:2006 Winter Olympics events, but instead I think it belongs on the specific biathlon competition pages to allow for navigation among them: Biathlon at the 2006 Winter Olympics - Men's Individual, Biathlon at the 2006 Winter Olympics - Men's Sprint, Biathlon at the 2006 Winter Olympics - Women's Individual and the pages for the other 7, assuming they will be created one day, that populate Category:Biathlon at the 2006 Winter Olympics. I removed it but you restored it.

This is analogous to the situation already existing for Template:AlpineSkiingAt2006WinterOlympics -- the template is not featured on Alpine skiing at the 2006 Winter Olympics which is a member of Category:2006 Winter Olympics events but it is featured at each the 10 individual pages for the specific competitions that populate Category:Alpine skiing at the 2006 Winter Olympics.

Instead of using this navigation template to get to the individual competition pages from the sport's main page for biathlon or alpine skiing at the 2006 Games one uses the links in italics under the individual competition headings on the sport's main page; for example: Main article: Biathlon at the 2006 Winter Olympics - Men's Individual.

One problem with Template:AlpineSkiingAt2006WinterOlympics is that it was apparently designed for the sport's specific competition pages at the 2006 Games and automatically includes the page it is placed on within the sport's 2006 Games subcategory. But the main sport pages don't live within their individual event page subcategories but rather in Category:2006 Winter Olympics events one level up, except when templated like so and thus miscategorized. This is the case for all the main event pages for the 2006 Games.

Please let me know if you agree with the above -- I don't want to accidentally get into a revert war over this. The speed skating pages are another case of the same (the corresponding template needs to be removed from the main speed skating page for the same reasons). -- Mareklug talk  10:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Hey there. Personally, I think that the navigation template should be on all the individual event pages as well as on the main discipline page for the year.  Having it on the discipline page adds an easy way of navigation (it's a lot easier to use the box to get around than to scroll around on the page to find the various "Main article:" links, especially if someone wants to open more than one at a time).  My optimal solution would be to remove the category from the template and manually add it to the event pages.  However, that's more work than I'm looking to do right now, so I've just taken the template off the discipline page. Happy editing! -- Jonel | Speak 10:33, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Category:Cross country skiers at the 2006 Winter Olympics
As this has been contested I've delisted from WP:CFDS, feel free to list on WP:CFD. — xaosflux  Talk  04:21, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Boxing category
Dear Marek: Hi! Thanks for the message letting me know about the category. I think it's a good idea, particularly because in boxing many people have died after a competition. Auto Racing should be another sport for which a similar category should be formed but aside from Auto Racing, we have had deaths during basketball and association football games but those are too few to have in a category.

It's sad when a person dies period, let alone in boxing where there is still room for improvement. Authorities just choose to ignore this in the name of the "green paper".

Thanks for your message and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Chicago Hot Dog Martin

San Jose, California
There was already a long discussion about the proper title for the city on the talk page. The problem is, everyone here just calls in San Jose, regardless of what the officials say. And hundreds of existing maps and roadsigns say San Jose, not to mention hundreds of existing wikipedia links ... -- ProveIt (talk) 07:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Per the above note, as well as the discussion on the San Jose talk page, it is clear the common form in English is without the foreign accent mark. My edit conformed to that. I left it in those cases where it correctly reflected a direct quote, but otherwise the name now matches the name of the article. Regards. Jonathunder 19:26, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Appell
Translated a bit as you requested but. . . Please see here for my concerns re the sentence about Harvard. The French article has a few spelling mistakes and wrong birthdate - I did wonder if it had been put together hastily.--HJMG 19:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It looks as if Morse was taught at Harvard by Birkhoff, while Appell was doing war-related work, then busy at the League of Nations in the 1920s.--HJMG 20:15, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Fucking Amal
That's original research. The only link the film has is its title, and this is just silly. Ambi 04:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Meerkat
Sorry. I misread the talk page. My apologies.
 * --BDWill Talk Contribs 03:59, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Leeann.jpg
That image was most likely taken from here, which was the first page that came up on a Google image search. The shot in question comes from an FHM shoot she did in December 2004. Hope this is more useful than the answer you received. --BillC 23:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Pomocnik
Racja... sam nie wiem dlaczego tak pisałem wszędzie... dobrze że to przejrzałeś, bo chciałem zrobic tak ze wszytskimi zawodnikami... Adik7swiony 21:26, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Widze, że zająłeś się poprawianiem artykułów o piłkarzach... chwała Ci za to... ja sie za bardzo nie znam na angielskim i mogłem dawać tylko infoboxy, ale widze, że wspólna pracą informacje o zawodnikach na angielskiej wikipedi sa lepsze niz na polskiej... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adik7swiony (talk • contribs) 29 May

FIFA Controversies AfD
There is a fundamental problem - AfD is not a vote, so counting the "opinions" was counterproductive. My job as an administrator was to evaluate the strength of the rationales, and unsurprizingly I was more impressed with the "Delete"s. I think the article is irretrievably and unencyclopedic, and I definitely don't think there was any consensus on those crucial issues, in other words, the 41 did a poor job rebutting the 18 - other than by their sheer number, which was not considered. Hope that cleared it up for you. - CrazyRussian talk/email 13:20, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

World Cup Sponsorship AfD
Hi, I just wanted to tell you that I’ve made some rather large additions to 2006 FIFA World Cup sponsorship and would appreciate if you could take a look at them and possibly reconsider your comment at Articles for deletion/2006 FIFA World Cup sponsorship. I thought it was a worthy topic, even though it had a wretched article, so I added information about revenue and the sponsorship process, the sponsor related controversies of this World Cup (tickets distribution, Budweiser in Germany, Mcdonalds at a sporting event), and took out the copyvios. Please take a look. Thanks! Vickser 19:31, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Fußball vs. Fussball on the German Wikipedia World Cup 2006 article and in 2006 FIFA World Cup
Why isn't the "trademarked slogan" being used in the English version of the infobox? Why should the English article be any different than the German one in this respect? 69.109.185.85 03:37, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar
Apologies about the delay in getting this to you, but...

2006 FIFA World Cup
I am totally new at Wikipedia, so I don't know all the rules. However, 25 years as an editor and the backing of the Chicago Manual of Style along with other style guides and grammar books makes me pretty confident about commas after years in dates (i.e., "The game on July 9, 2006, went into overtime")--the comma before the year functions like a parentheses. Check out the Chicago manual's website. I've even seen the comma used on other Wikipedia sites. Btw, does Wikipedia have a style guide?

Also, what does rs linkspam mean? (I'm serious--I am a total neophyte.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiaroscuro123 (talk • contribs) 1 August 2006, 01:19 (CDT)

Thanks for the info

 * Thanks for the links to the style guide pages. I did find some examples of dates both with and without commas in different articles.  (See Linsday Lohan,William Shakespeare, and World War I, for examples with commas--but don't ask how I came up with a list that weird! And see 1906 San Francisco Earthquake, for an example without.  Of course, none have the precise configuration of the World Cup entry, which was listing range of dates.) Obviously, in such a large enterprise as this there will be inconsistencies.  And I must wistfully concede the decline of the comma in writing, but it still looks funny to me without it.  The European way of writing dates does obviate the comma--1 August 2006.

 * And thanks for the info about the signature. I had not gotten up to the Talk Page directions in the tutorial until today.--Chiaroscuro123 16:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

MK
Cześć. Widzę, że pozmieniałeś już trochę w artykule. Mam jednak pytanie: czy z języku angielskim można dopisać do twojego tekstu "a proposed union of cities" słowo "sąsiadujących" bądź "połączonych". Chodzi o to by to brzmiało jakoś tak - "planowany związek sąsiadujących ze sobą miast" bądź "planowany związek połączonych ze sobą miast". Dlaczego to takie ważne? Ponieważ na świecie intnieją związki miast, nawet oddalonych o siebie o kilkaset kilometrów (nie biorę tu pod uwagę partnerstwa miast tzw. miasta partnerskie, miasta bliźniacze). GZM z założenia ma nas zintegrować w jedną całość - związek/obszar miejski, aby jako jeden organizm walczyć o dotacje, zarządzać drogami, kanalizacją itp, promować ten jeden obszar, pozyskiwać dla niego inwestorów. Biorąc pod uwagę, że język angielski jest bardzo skromny (w porównaniu z j.polskim) i często wiele słów ma po kilka znaczeń oraz to, że są na świecie związki miast oddalonych od siebie, proszę o pomoc we wpisaniu tego o co tu poprosiłem. Pozdrawiam. LUCPOL 21:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Boeing 737
Hi Marek, This would not be me. You need to make a request to have the outline changed on Wikiproject Aircraft. We are trying to do a uniform outline. It was decided that we reduce the number of indentations in the table of contents. look at Boeing 757, 767, A330, A340, A310, 747-8, and many others and you will see it done there too. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.74.115 (talk • contribs) 09:46 (CDT), 3 October 2006

Flags
Would you be so kind to tell me how should I behave in this situation? As I see it someone decide to change the colours of a flag, but the discussion about this change is somewhere else, in a language I do not understand. As I do not understand why we at en.wiki should do what pl.wiki decide.--RedMC 13:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I answered at Talk:Flag of Poland.--RedMC 19:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Commons..
Hej, zauważyłem właśnie zobaczyłem. Mógłbyś powiedziec, czy jest gdziekolwiek używana, tak, żebym mógł ją spokojnie skasowac? Dzięki, odder 11:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Englis/Non Englsih letters in NHL bio articles
Hello Mareklug, see Krm500's compromise at my talk page. I suggest Krm500, should put his compromise up fo Afc at WikiProject Ice Hockey/Player pages format. GoodDay 23:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm hoping for all Euro & French Canadian NHL bio articles titles, to be in sync soon. If these numerous bio articles continue to be out of sync (some with English titles: example Jaromir Jagr & some with Non-English titles: example Antero Nittymaki), I may seek an Arbitration Commitee Ruling. Diacriticals OR No Diacriticals, we need consistancy. GoodDay 01:43, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Good point, add it to the Rfc at WikiProject Ice Hockey/Player pages format. I just want to see the Diacritical inconsistancies on the NHL bio articles end. You correct though, ALL English Wikipedia bio articles should be the same. I'm not trying to have things 'my way', I'm trying to seek common ground. GoodDay 18:09, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

GZW
Bądź tak miły i nie manipuluj. Chodzi o twoje wpisy w kawiarence i tu. LUCPOL 11:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I mały komentarz odnośnie twojej treści: "Hasla typu Aglomeracja, Polska beda zawierac poprawione wyliczenia/populacje nastepujacych aglomeracji na Slasku: katowickiej, rybnickiej, bielskiej i czestochowskiej" - a kto ci na to pozwoli? Zrozum, że twoje dane są z nierzetelnych źródeł, opisujących aglomerację z administacyjno-politycznego punktu widzenia. Sprawa GZW: GOP i ROW będzie jeszcze długo dyskutowana, sprawa aglomeracji częstochowskiej i bielskiej odpada już na samym początku. I proszę, używaj trochę inteligencji (to nie jest atak personalny), bowiem bezmyślne kopiowanie absurdalnych treści z internetu tylko dla zasady "lepsze to, niż prawda bez pisanych źródeł" jest patologią. LUCPOL 11:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Upper Silesian Industry Area
Artykuł trzeba zmienić: LUCPOL 21:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
 * zmienić metropolitan area na conurbation
 * sekcja geography jhest błędna, bowiem jest podsekcja "miasta" a w niej nie ma wypisanych wszystkich miast. Nie powinieneś na ślepo kopiować artykułu GZM do artykułu GOP
 * po co tam są sekcje typu "Famous people"?

Achhh. Niestety zrobił się mętlik, i to nie mały. Teraz praktycznie każdy artykuł - GZW, GOP, ROW i GZM jest błędny. Po pierwsze: nie nadużywaj w artykułach słowa "metropolitan area", ponieważ to jest całkowicie błędne w stosunku go GOP i ROW. GOP i ROW to conurbation or/and urban area, natomiast metropolitan area można nazwać tylko GZW. Nie oczekuję od ciebie doktoratu z geografii, ale jeśli zajmujesz się takimi artykułami to powinieneś się na tym choć trochę znać. Sprawa druga: dlaczego zmieniłeś artykuł User:R9tgokunks? Wpisał on do ROW oznaczenie "industrial area", czy to jest błędne? W moim słowniku angielskiego oznacza to "przemysłowy obszar", co jest prawdą w przypadku ROW (choć w tym wypadku lepsze by było "coal area" etc). LUCPOL 11:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * PS. To że GOP jest często zastępowany nazwą "aglomeracja górnośląska" czy "konurbacja górnośląska" jest faktem. Niestety tak już jest. Nie mniej jednak wiarygodne źródła wprost, że GOP to konurbacja np. Encyklopedia Onet, CD Geografia i inne. Myślę, że nie trzeba się kłócić że jest inaczej. LUCPOL 11:42, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Poprawiłem artykuły: LUCPOL 12:41, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Rybnik Coal Area - rozszerzyłem artykuł, zamieniłem "twoje" błędne metropolitan area na coal area (jeśli uważasz to za błędną nazwę to pisz na mojej dyskusji, przedyskutujemy poprawną nazwę)
 * Upper Silesian Industry Area - zamieniłem "twoje" błędne metropolitan area na conurbation (zobacz dyskusję wyżej), usunąłem sekcję Famous people
 * Upper Silesian Coal Basin - pozamieniałem stare błędne nazwy na nowe, dodałem "coal basin" (wkońcu to zagłębie węglowe), do słowa metropolitan area dodałem "de facto" (co można rozumieć jako non official)
 * Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union - dodałem nowe informacje, zamieniłem "twoje" błędne 2,8 mln metropolitan area na urban area (aglomeracja) / conurbation (konurbacja), zmieniłem tabelę na uniwersalną

 * Mam prośbę, nie skarż na mnie że "zrobiłem to a to". Użytkownikowi poniżej napisałeś o mnie w sposób negatywny... a to trochę nie fair. Po drugie: podsumując: w czym jest problem? Co według ciebie należało by jeszcze zmienić w artykułach: GZW, GOP, ROW? Ja naliczyłem dwie rzeczy: nie podoba ci się określenie "conurbation" w GOP i nie podoba ci się określenie "[de facto] metropolitan area" w GZW. Czy coś jeszcze? Najważniejsze, by spokojnie dojść do porozumienia. Te dwie sprawy do przedyskutowania zostawmy na koniec, dlatego pytam się czy są jeszcze jakiś inne sprawy, które "ci się nie podobają". LUCPOL 12:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

 * PS. Usunąłem większość zbędnych i dublujących informacji z:
 * Upper Silesian Coal Basin - diff, teraz artykuł ma tylko najważniejsze informacje zgodne z tematem:
 * Upper Silesian Industry Area - diff, teraz artykuł ma tylko najważniejsze informacje zgodne z tematem:
 * Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union - w tej chwili to tylko GZM ma wypisane uczelnie, zabytki itp. ze względu, że jest to jednostka administracyjna. I myślę, że się ze mną zgadzasz, bo te same spisy w artykułach GZW czy GOP to lekka przesada.

LUCPOL 13:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Silesia
Alright, i see your point... since... before i did anything Upper Silesian Coal Basin, Upper Silesian Industry Area, and Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union were all practically exact duplicates of the Katowice article, in fact there is still stuff on all 4 of them that is the exact same...go check it out for yourself is you do not believe me-- Hrödberäht (gespräch)
 * User:LUCPOL is at it again, after just bring blocked from the Polish Wikipedia for the 30th time(not joking, for a month) he is vandalizing articles on the English version; copying things i am saying in the edit summary, and reverting pages that he doesn't want to be reverted or deleted, Most notably:

 * Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union
 * Upper Silesian Industry Area
 * Upper Silesian Coal Basin

-- Hrödberäht (gespräch) 01:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, that POV tag you added to Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union was removed by LUCPOL 1 revert later, I put it back. -- Hrödberäht (gespräch) 19:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Could you possibly get User:LUCPOL to stop adding back that useless info to the articles Upper Silesian Metropolitan Union and Upper Silesian Industry Area, and stop him from removing TAGs from Upper Silesian Coal Basin, Upper Silesian Industry Area? Thanks -- Hrödberäht (gespräch) 17:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Medals Tally in 2007 Melbourne
I just updated the whole medal tally. I only counted manually the medals won in the Medal Summary that's already in the article, so it's probably best to check if I missed out something or I counted wrongly... Anyway, does it look better now? RaNdOm26 17:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Conflation of indoor arena and stadium in Hangzhou
I'm no expert on the subject. Make whatever changes, renames, or merges you see fit.--Daveswagon 21:41, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Sansei yamao
Done. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 15:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Five-octave vocal range
I see you have a history of working on the article Five-octave vocal range. I am looking at it from the project Unreferenced articles where it is one of the longest unreferenced tagged articles that does not meet at least the barest minimum of verifiability. It has been tagged and completely without references since June 2006. It would be extremely helpful if you had some references you could add to the article to help support its verifiability and notability. Thanks for any help you can give. Jeepday (talk) 14:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Jerzy Janowicz
Here's the article in it's entirety (minus the s) : Jerzy Janowicz (born November 13, 1990 in Łódź, Poland) is a polish junior tennis player.

Airport
Mam poważne wątpliwości co do sensu tej twojej edycji. Mnóstwo portów lotniczych na świecie nie jest zlokalizowanych w samych miastach lecz poza administracyjnymi granicami danej miejscowości. Zauważyłem, że edytujesz artykuły związane z lotniskami, więc to co teraz napisałem jest dla ciebie znane. Dlaczego takiej edycji dokonałeś tylko przy porcie lotniczym Katowice-Pyrzowice. Dziwniejsze jest również to, że poprawiałeś również tekst o lotnisku krakowskim, a ten leży niedaleko Krakowa, w Balicach a tu takiej informacji że leży niedaleko Krakowa już nie napisałeś. Jeżeli nie zamierzasz napisać przy każdym porcie że nie znajduje się w granicach danego miasta to proszę o zmianę twojej edycji aby pisało po prostu o porcie katowickim (czyli tak jak było przed twoją edycją i tak jak ma port w Balicach). Nie można stosować odmiennych kryteriów to wybranych przez siebie portów. LUCPOL (talk) 12:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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Kosovo issue
I hope you have many friends who will support the view that Bosnia has not decided on recognising Kosovo's independence...because I think Avala will do an edit war here and claim that Republika Srpska represents Bosnia. This is total nonsense since the world recognises the government at Sarajevo--as the legitimate ruler of Bosnia. I first noticed that Avila said Bosnia does not recognise the independence of Kosovo and was puzzled until I saw the Serb Republika Srpska reference. It would have been better if a Wikipedia Admin got involved ASAP and stopped Avila's Serb POV's. It seems as if the Admins have fallen asleep today. Regards, Leoboudv (talk) 00:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Warning for content removal
You have committed Blanking type of vandalism which is Removing all or significant parts of pages' content without any reason, or replacing entire pages with nonsense. Sometimes important verifiable references are deleted with no valid reason(s) given in the summary. Please refrain from making such edits in the future. --Avala (talk) 00:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from. When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the text has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

 * Please don't create mistifications with this ridiculous accusation, as it was your unreasonable and misrepresenting edits that I have been removing, being at that, one of several other editors, who object to your POV-pushing, untrue misrepresentations of werifiable facts. As an administrator of the Serb Wikipedia, you should know better, than to falsely create impression of culpability to serve your own ends, by supplying user talk page content of this sort.  You have already been reported today by me on Wikimedia Commons for engaging in persistent edit-warring and vandalism of your own, in the matter of presenting a false state of facts on the maps depicting official state recognition or nonrecognition of independent Kosowo. Your bad-faith edits, which I and others have been removing, while you keep reverting, no doubt violating the 3RR rule, consisted of placing misleading references purporting to support the view that Bosnia or Armenia have officially acted not to recognize Republic of Kosovo, whereas in fact, the two countries have not.  So, I refute your attempt to paint me in a bad light.  Furthermore, there seems to be mounting evidence that an RFC should be conducted over the matter of your edits in the matter of Kosovo as damaging to two or more Wikimedia projects and their credibility, thereby resulting in transgressions no admin should ever commit, on any project, even where he is not an administrator, because he is expected to know better. --Mareklug talk 00:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I supplied two sources for presiding and another member of tripartite presidency saying that Bosnia will not recognise and that there is consensus on this issue. Better question is why are you removing this information? Consider this a second warning that vandalizing pages will not be tolerated. I am an admin because I fight vandalism which you endorse. Giving two sources is not truth twisting, removing content is. --Avala (talk) 00:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

 * How dare you lie on my talk page and give me unwarranted warnings (two, by now!), whereas it is you who are involved in this edit war yourself, breaking the WP:3RR in the process singlehandedly, and on the wrong end of facts, at that. In fact, it is you, who removed content, sourced content at that, and far more pertaining to the official position of the government of Bosnia re: Kosovo's independence, replacing it with sources quoting individual POLITICIANS, not GOVERNMENTS. Furthermore, that material may well pertain to Republika Srpska, but it does not to Bosnia and Hercegowina, as you are continuing to misrepresent. Badly placed, misleading  text should be removed.  Republika Srpska IS NOT BOSNIA, and it's high time for your Serb-centric mentality to register that fact, and stop pretending that it is. It is you who are guilty of removing sourced NPOV content and replacing it by inserting irrelevant, misrepresenting content, which surely is vandalism of the highest order.  You are the worst kind of admin, a double-talking false accuser of others, using Wikipedia lingo to create misimpressions of appropriatness of your actions, which are most unsaviory and damage the Wikipedia. You accuse users such as me, who are actually editing impartially and removing your misrepresentations.  Please quit littering my talk page with your nonsense and false accusations. I think your actions should be looked at by English Wikipedia admins, who should take into account the social unrest you are causing on the Kosovo-related pages among editors objecting to your ujustified take on official stances of governments. --Mareklug talk 01:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

 * It's not any politicians it's presidency members of Bosnia and Hercegovina (not Republika Srpska).--Avala (talk) 01:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * And again in Russia it is. Why? well because countries have different political systems. Polish president never said "Poland will not recognize Kosovo" only "Poland should wait with recognizing Kosovo". Presidency members in Bosnia have used finite form - Bosnia will not recognize Kosovo. no shoulds but will not. Because they have the power to do so (or they are silly people who make statements outside of their jurisdiction). Now either provide us with at least some sources for your statements or stop with blanking. --Avala (talk) 01:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

 * This is sheer sophistry on your part: you demand sources for statements, which the government of Bosnia (or Armenia, for that matter) has not made in the name of the state YET. Instead of leaving in place the NPOV source for Bosnia, which you removed (talk about blanking!) in order to make room for quotes by individual members of tripartite presidency or Armenian minsters or whatnot (individuals, in any case, speaking individually!). Had you presented your sources in a measured, appropriate context, there would be no conflict, but you wholesale acted on these quotations by highly placed individuals as actions of states!  That, they are not, and it is you who must provide verifiable sources of concrete state actions.  And no per analogiam to Russia, ruled by a despot. Who already spoke ex officio, and who had his diplomats present the matter formally at hte UN Security Council.  Which Bosnia or Armenia HAVE NOT. --Mareklug talk 02:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: User:Avala etc.
3RR reports should be filled at WP:3RR. Another page to check: WP:DR, with mediation being highly suggested if not tried before.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 01:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo
Hello. Japan will recognize Kosovo's independance soon :. Could you please change the colour of Japan into light blue on the map you've made (Kosovo relations) ? Nonopoly (talk) 08:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey there Mareklug, Croatia and Japan will recognize Rep. of KV (kosova) soon, I hope you will be the one to change the map. Today there was a meeting between Croatia and Japan..and the Japan minister asked Croatia what it thought, kind of corned Croatia. Expect Croatia to recognize Kosova Thursday. 68.114.197.88 (talk) 18:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)Kosova2008

WP:AN notice
FYI, your editing is being discussed at Administrators%27_noticeboard. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Bjork
So are you going to add Bjork to the article or not? Was the purpose of opening a talk section about Bjork's opinion just to annoy other editors or you were sincere? --Avala (talk) 17:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Please don't add Bjork ! If you do, thousands of other people, politicians, celebritites and others will be added as also relevant. That will render the list unusable. I am going to assume good faith and assume that the latter is not your intention. Passportguy (talk) 19:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Third opinion project
Your request for a third opinion has been edited to comply with Third opinion. If your entry as originally worded contained information vital to an understanding of the dispute, please add those details to the article talk page where the dispute exists. Thanks. — Athaenara ✉  00:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution.  Grsz  ' 11 ' 05:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I have not insulted you in any way and there is no need to be so hostile. What's the deal with the lately missing click :) of the troika of the Serb government POV-pushers. In that case I should call you the Kosovar (Shiptar) goverment (but wouldn't call it that) POV-pusher.Top Gun

Re. The matter of fabricated quote for Brazil entry in International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence
Hello. Could you please direct me to the source? I will read it and tell you if a refusal to recognize Kosovo is explicit. If not, I may well proceed to translate the entire declaration. Regards, Hús  ö  nd  00:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * From what I read, the official Brazilian position is pretty much like the Spanish one. The first lines say, "The Brazilian government does not support the independence of Kosovo, as it occurred in an unilateral manner, and will only recognize it when that becomes the result of a political agreement with Serbia, under the conduction of the United Nations". I can translate the rest if it's necessary, but from this source it does seem like there's a clear refusal to recognize unless Serbia accepts Kosovo's independence. Regards, Hús  ö  nd  01:19, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The source belongs to a newspaper from the city of Florianópolis. It is not official but they do seem to interpret/quote official sources. Here is the complete translation:
 * The Brazilian government does not support the independence of Kosovo, as it occurred in an unilateral manner, and will only recognize it when that becomes the result of a political agreement with Serbia, under the conduction of the United Nations. This interpretation of recent declarations of the Minister of Foreign Relations Celso Amorim, and of an official note made public this Friday, on which the Ministry of Foreign Relations expressed its preoccupation with the violence wave in Serbia and with the attacks to the Embassy of the United States in Belgrade, was confirmed by diplomats.
 * From the Ministry of Foreign Relations' point of view, by declaring the country independent, the leaders of Kosovo have ignored the UN Security Council Resolution 1244, from the year 1999. That text stipulates a compromise of the United Nations towards the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Yugoslavia (current Serbia) and also determines, on its second appendix, that a possible sovereign government of Kosovo be the result of a political agreement.
 * "The Brazilian government reiterates a call for restraint and reaffirms its conviction that a peaceful solution for the Kosovo issue must continue to be searched through dialog and negotiation, under the auspices of the United Nations and in the legal framework of the 1244 resolution of the Security Council", informs the note.
 * The Ministry of Foreign Relations is especially worried with the cascade effect that the independence of Kosovo may have throughout the world, as has indicated Amorim on the last 18th, in Brasília. Particularly, in countries with a fragmented population. In his recent declarations, the minister defends that Brazil awaits a decision by the Security Council before defining its official position on the matter. For him, the countries that have already recognized Kosovo's independence have put the United Nations in a "second place".
 * This is it! Regards, Hús  ö  nd  01:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Hús  ö  nd  03:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Reflist
Hi. You need to get rid of the entire ref at talk:International.....independence, because it doesn't show your signature, or anything that anyone writes after the ref. I would do it myself, but it converts your signature to mine i I try.  Balkan Fever  14:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

 * It's taken me a while to get back to you :D. I saw your reply when you posted it, but I couldn't edit anything due to the server (ugh). All I wanted to say was that the (now removed) section referred to something along the lines of "violence of Serbs in Macedonia (among other places)" which is incorrect because the instability is about the outstanding issue of the Albanian minority. Either way, the guy didn't elaborate on Macedonia so it was just misleading to have that there.  Balkan Fever  00:47, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

May I ask for your help?
Mr. Mareklug, it was written in the article Kosovo: "''Kosova" redirects here. For other uses, see Kosova (disambiguation).'' but that was and still is not the case as when I type Kosova it does redirect me to "Kosova (disambiguation)". The aforementioned sentence was deleted in the article today by user Husönd. So I would appreciate your help, Sir. The discussion is going on here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kosovo#There_should_be_a_redirect_from_Kosova_to_Kosovo --Tubesship (talk) 14:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Problem solved, they just did it! :-) Tubesship (talk) 16:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Re. User:Tocino disruptive on Kosovo-related article. Please enforce probation.
Hello Mareklug. Actually, I had left a message at Tocino's talk page asking him to refrain from being uncivil. I also left a message both at his talk page and at Talk:International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence reminding of the probation affecting all Kosovo-related articles. I believe that shall suffice for the restart of harmonious dialog. Anyway, I will refrain from banning any users myself, as it's preferable to have an uninvolved administrator to do it (I've been editing Kosovo-related articles frequently). Hopefully it won't be necessary. Regards, Hús  ö  nd  18:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I still haven't investigated the current Brazilian reference dispute, but I'll have a look at it later on. Thank you. Regards, Hús  ö  nd  18:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Consenus breached, need support
Hello Mr. Mareklug, contrary to a reached consensus there is a splitting going on instead a merging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kosovo#Split_completed And I would appreciate your assistance. Thank you! --Tubesship (talk) 04:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Some thoughts on Kosovo articles Kosovo and Republic of Kosovo
I respect your opinion, but based on long discussions on talk page (note, not votes) and my understanding of NPOV I believe this is the best solution. If Kosovo were the article alloted for the Republic, people here would attempt to use it to legitimize their viewpoint that Kosovo is the Republic of Kosovo. The most obvious manifestations of this are people slapping an infobox onto Kosovo, or putting "Kosovo is a state", etc. This isn't fair to the Serb POV.

However, you are largely correct about the redundancy, and I am working to improve that. Superm401 - Talk 05:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Translation
Hi Mareklug. You're probably busy with the Kosovo articles and all, but if you have any time, could you please translate Makedonsko devojče into polszczyzna? I'd like to create an interwiki for it. Thanks in advance,  Balkan Fever  05:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Yeah, thanks. Could you provide the next two verses?  Balkan Fever  06:52, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

 * :D. They're dark. Polish girls?  Balkan Fever  07:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

 * True. My personal picks are Izabella Scorupco, Weronika Rosati and Joanna Krupa. Is there anyone you think I've left out?  Balkan Fever  07:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Central Europe in general is pretty satisfying :). Must be the historical mixture, as you said. And good idea about the footnotes - I'll make them for all the interwikis. Now to find all the other Slavic-speakers (I have an elaborate pan-Slavic wiki idea for this song :D ). If you ever need a Macedonian translation, you know where to find me ;).  Balkan Fever  12:20, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, I've removed it. For one of the most popular Macedonian songs, it has quite a few sourcing problems :(.

Apologies
I would like to apologies over my remark on Somaliland. I sympathies for partly recognised countries such as Kosovo. I believe in "If the majority of a country wishes to be independant" However I generally disagree with counties such as Somaliland as they have no recognition. So no change, therefore no point in supporting them. However if an organistion such as the African Union was to recognise Somaliland, my view and opinion would change, to recognition, as there has been significant chance. If such news does occur, please let me now. I am also pro British, Kosovo, European and Polish (Krakow is the best city i have ever visited) please let me know of any information. Apologies again, if you would like any support on any Kosovo dispute or anti Polish attack, please let me know as i will support your view/ opinion. Peace. Ijanderson977 (talk) 00:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Macedonia
I am asking for your help on changing the position of Macedonia.

This is the current position of Macedonia on international reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence:
 * "The Republic of Macedonia will decide its view when we deem it most appropriate for our interests," said President Branko Crvenkovski. Crvenkovski said that Macedonia would follow the position of NATO and the European Union on Kosovo, but he pointed out that nations in the two organizations have to yet to assume a common stance.[130][131] The Democratic Party of Albanians left the government coalition on March 13 after it failed to meet their six demands, recognizing Kosovo's independence being one of them. However, it returned on March 24 after demanding the recognition of Kosovo. [132] The various politicians involved are busy conducting negotiations and their outcome remains unsettled as of March 19, 2008.[133]"
 * All of these references are from non-official sources (news agencies). The MFA of Macedonia today declared on its' website, "In his informal meetings with his other colleagues, in the context of the resolution of the future Kosovo issue, Minister Milososki reiterated that the Republic of Macedonia supports the proposal by Special Envoy Ahtisaari, and the unison EU position on this issue.", the new description should read that "Macedonia supports the Marti Ahtisaari plan." Kosova2008 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note on the 'edit wars'. I can probably add back the comment on Cuba when it is unlocked. As a Canadian from Vancouver, I am neither Serb nor Albanian but I agree with my government's position that it is better to recognise Kosovo. The Kosovars have waited too long here. The question is whether the Asian and African states will slowly recognise the new situation or not? I personally don't think Cuba will recognise Kosovo but so far they have remained quiet--maybe Raul Castro is more cautious compared to his brother. Regards, Leoboudv (talk) 19:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Mareklug I seriously appreciate your help. I think an admin needs to remind the opposition (tocino, Avala, etc) that since this is a controversial matter we need to only resort to irrefutable evidence. Quotes from X dailies is good but evidence from MFA are stronger, it is this belief of mine which made me ask for your help in the MACEDONIA section. I hope you can agree, only through NPOV we can move towards progress. Also if we don't have serious OFFICIAL (MFA, PM, or any official website) than if we are left to X dailies info the newer X daily info should trump the old since it represents a current up to date; you saw with Macedonia how the MFA was complete opposite of what X dailies were saying a month ago. Best Regards, Ari. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosova2008 (talk • contribs) 19:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

 * OMG CHECK THIS OUT, this IS BREAKING NEWS!!!

"The imbroglio between Macedonia and Greece has been resolved by default – by > the coming to light of an ancient manuscript ceding sovereignty over both > territories in perpetuity to today's Kosovo.

In addition, Kosovo would also hold claims over a region in south-east Bulgaria, formerly referred to as Bulgarian Macedonia until the Socialist regime changed the name to Pirin region." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kosova2008 (talk • contribs) 31 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes, a very clever April Fool's joke. :) --Mareklug talk 21:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you reply next time on my talk page? Yea, I found out I wrote at my friends in Kosovathanksyou.com and they told me it was a joke BUT its NOT FUNNY because I read the news 7mins after it got posted..its STILL the 31st here, this is seriously not funny, im so pissed there should have been a tag at the end of that article. Kosova2008 (talk) 02:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Serbian reactions to Kosovo Independence
Uhhhh, do you actually need to make a separate article? I suggest merging some of the content into the Serbian Reaction section of the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence article.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 03:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * We had no choice! Under the table format, it was becoming unmanagable, ever-expanding, a dissertation. And the story has only begun. I'm sure we have only seen the beginning of Serbian reaction.  My bigger concern is avoiding the phenomenon of a timeline, and keeping it a coherent article, as events unfold. I have no doubt about its notability -- it's a canddate for A-class importance for Wikiproject:Serbia. I'd appreciate your help in managing it. There's no chance of folding any of it back into the international reaction article -- which is already way too bloated and if anything, expect other spin-offs. :) --Mareklug talk 03:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm referring to the section on the actual declaration of independence, not the one for the international reaction.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 03:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. Let me think about that.
 * One thing that comes to mind, is that the Serbian reaction is relatively immune to edit-warring along the lines of Kosovar vs. Serbian POV, and thus, will not be ever locked in disputes, unlike the Kosovo articles. Second, the aforementioned projected ever-lengthening volume of it persuades for keeping the article separate. Third, it should be findable through the Category of Politics in Serbia by anyone looking there first.  Fourth, linking to an article from the international reaction article is more fool-proof (the link won't break, should someone edit a section heading). All these things speak for keeping the article as is. --Mareklug talk 03:53, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, presently the Serbian reaction section on the declaration of independence article deals mostly with the protests in Serbia, though an article already exists on them. I don't think Serbia's reaction will go much further than it is now given the elections are only a little over a month away. If the European Serbia coalition is able to win it could change things around, though it's more likely a nationalist coalition between DSS-SRS and maybe even with SPS would be formed. The ICJ matter is going to be around September before it can even be put forward. For now there seems to be nothing justifying a separate article. I think just shortening the discussion of Serbian protests there and basically just putting the information there would be fine. Honestly, the declaration article has not been exposed to the same kind of POV nonsense going on in other articles.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 04:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Care should be taken to distinguish between Serbian reaction and Serbia's. The latter was nearly completely neglected in the article. I added a synopsis covering the main (not all) points and converted the seealso to the protests article into a dual main. Now, if you feel up to it, it would make sense to pare down the riots in that "Serbian reaction" section, and make sure that Bosnian Serb teens in Banja Luka etc. are included, as well as the Republika Srpska entity parliament's proclamation intending to seek independence while condemning Kosovo's (how ironic). So, as you see, I'm going just hte opposite of your initial suggestion -- reducing the column inches, while generalizing the content. It's for the best, trust me. The Serbian reaction is far from a closed book, and spans not just Serbia in its present borders. Or Serbia's reaction. --Mareklug talk 05:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Mareklug, I have new developments. Rep. of Kosova has picked Skender Hyseni to be the MFA of Kosova and Minister of Returnees and Communities to be Ismet Hashanin. The deputy-minister of Ministry of Administration of Local government has been named Branislav Brbiq (Serb/Bosniak ?). Source is in Albanian, my translation is not the best (on the names of position in english). Source Kosova2008 (talk) 14:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Re. any reason why a noncontroversial editprotect request is not being handled or even acknowledted?
Done. Could you please verify if it's ok now? If so, please remove the edit request template on the talk page. Regards, Hús  ö  nd  17:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo
I would appreciate it a lot if you would join us in the Kosovo article which has turned into a mess. Your opinion and presence would help to further advance that article. Thank you. Jawohl (talk) 08:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes please, there is an admin thinking all WPs all over the world are wrong but himself being the only NPOV. We really need someone stopping this admin and free this article. --Tubesship (talk) 08:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey There
I see that I agree with you 100%. Let me know if you need any help, esp with that Serbia's reaction article. Want me to make a timeline, the events you've included but in a 2D picture ? Kosova2008 (talk) 21:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You draw a line and in it you put perpendicular short lines with key events. LOL. I can't or don't know how to load images in WP. I only know how to link a URL to a page which hosts the image. I still can't or don't know how to use the  as I would in HTML Kosova2008 (talk) 21:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Re. 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence
Hello Mareklug. I see that an edit war is starting on this one too. I think that you should request full protection for this article at WP:RFPP, and talk your diagreements with Tocino on the talk page while the article is locked. I shall not grant protection to the article myself, as I'm involved with the Kosovo topic. You'll require a neutral admin. Thus, WP:RFPP. Regards, Hús  ö  nd  19:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

preemptive vs. in-progress
Hi there. You just declined an informed request for page protection on grounds that we don't protect preemptively. But a casual inspection of recent revision history shows an edit war in progress. Why do you wish to wait until a 3RR rule becomes a factor? The request is predicated on the ongoing multi-week debacle on International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence -- the very same edits, the very same information, the very same contention, POV-pushing, falsifications, and reverts. Please reconsider. --Mareklug talk 22:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If you can indicate the section of the protection policy which applies here, I will do so. Stifle (talk) 08:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Archive suggestion
This talk page is becoming very long. Please consider archiving. Stifle (talk) 08:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

title: User talk:Mareklug/Archive 1


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Exotic Birds

The Exotic Birds was an American Synthpop music group formed in Cleveland, Ohio, United States, in 1982 by three Cleveland Institute of Music percussion students (Andy Kubiszewski, Tom Freer and Timothy Adams Jr.). The three wrote their own music and have been described as synthpop and dance. They achieved local success, appearing as an opening band for Culture Club, Eurythmics, and Information Society.

History
The band's first single, "Dance the Night Away", was backed with an earlier recording, "Who Knows Why", by Kubiszewski and Nick Capetanakis (who performed with Kubiszewski in a prior group). The order of the songs was accidentally flipped on the record, so the older song appeared as the A side. "Who Knows Why" received moderate local radio play and became a surprise hit in Japan. Frank Vale joined the band as an additional keyboardist in September 1984. When Adams decided to leave to work with orchestras, the Exotic Birds broke up for the first time, playing a farewell show at the Phantasy Nite Club on February 16, 1985. In early 1986, Exotic Birds reformed as a five-piece band, with Kubiszewski, Freer, and Vale being joined by Mark Best on bass and Trent Reznor on keyboards, programming, and backing vocals. In November 1986, Freer and Best moved on, with Vale having departed slightly earlier. In December 1986, Reznor's invited Chris Vrenna to play drums for the band, filling out the now-trio. However, by July 1987, the band had broken up again.

Kubiszewski reformed Exotic Birds in early 1988 with a new line-up including Doug Beck on keyboards and Richard Carpenter on drums, and they released the group's first CD Equilibrium in November 1989. In 1990, Beck left, and Nick Rushe (formerly of Nine Inch Nails) joined on keyboards. The band signed to Alpha International Records out of Philadelphia, PA, for what was to be their next album. Instead, Alpha repackaged Equilibrium, cutting several tracks, and adding the new song "Imagination" to lead off the disc. Alpha was bought out just days after "Imagination" was released as a single. After Rushe departed, Rodney Shields (keyboards) and Marty Step (guitar) joined, rounding out the final Exotic Birds' line-up. In 1993, Kubiszewski left to play drums with and later for Crowded House, Prick and Stabbing Westward, but returned for one final gig on January 22, 1994.

Reznor, Vale and non-Exotic Birds member Mark Addison were the fictional band "The Problems" in Paul Schrader's 1987 Cleveland set movie Light of Day featuring Michael J. Fox and Joan Jett.

One-time Exotic Birds manager John Malm was Reznor's long-time manager and co-founder of Nothing Records.

To this day, Freer, now with the Cleveland Orchestra, and Adams, formerly with the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra, remain close friends and often teach together.

"Who Knows Why" / "Dance the Night Away" 7" (1983)

 * 1) "Who Knows Why" (A. Kubiszewski/N. Capetanakis) [3:27]
 * 2) "Dance the Night Away" [3:59]

Exotic Birds (1984)

 * 1) "I'll Never Say Goodbye" (A. Kubiszewski) [3:52]
 * 2) "Waiting For You (Na Na)" (A. Kubiszewski) [5:40]
 * 3) "No Communication" (A. Kubiszewski) [3:38]
 * 4) "Fade Away" (A. Kubiszewski) [5:40]
 * 5) "Take Your Chances" (A. Kubiszewski) [5:03]
 * 6) "Demon Dance" (T. Adams) [5:30]
 * 7) "No Communication (TV Version)" (A. Kubiszewski) [3:53]

L'oiseau (1986)
Backing Vocals by Rebecca Harper.
 * 1) "Dancing on the Airwaves" (A. Kubiszewski) [3:40]
 * 2) "Have You Heard the News" (A. Kubiszewski) [3:42]
 * 3) "The Meaning of Love" (T. Freer/A. Kubiszewski) [2:37]
 * 4) "This Must Be Heaven" (A. Kubiszewski) [4:53]
 * 5) "Nothing Lasts Forever" (T. Freer) [3:54]
 * 6) "Fighting Fire With Fire" (A. Kubiszewski) [4:58]

Equilibrium (Pleasureland) (1989)
All songs written by A. Kubiszewski except +by Doug Beck, and ++by Pete Ham.
 * 1) "Everything Is Different Now" [4:16]
 * 2) "Day After Day" [3:12] ++
 * 3) "The Rhythm of Machinery" [3:42]
 * 4) "Fashion and Luxury" [4:11]
 * 5) "Heartbeat Like A Drum" [4:31]
 * 6) "This Feeling" [3:35]
 * 7) "The Touch" [3:33]
 * 8) "Dance With Me" [4:33]
 * 9) "Pleasure" [3:39]+
 * 10) "Every Star Was You" [4:40]
 * 11) "Day After Day" (Remix) [4:47]
 * 12) "Heartbeat Like A Drum" (The E-Z Listening Mix) [7:04]
 * 13) "Dance With Me" (Disco Invader Mix) [6:34]
 * 14) "Pleasure" (Dreamworld Mix) [5:35]
 * 15) "Every Star Was You" (Celestial Mix) [6:03]

Equilibrium (Alpha International) (1990)
All songs written by Andy Kubiszewski except as indicated.
 * 1) "Imagination" [4:20] (Andy Kubiszewski/Richard Carpenter)
 * 2) "Day After Day" [3:12] (Pete Ham)
 * 3) "Everything Is Different Now" [4:10]
 * 4) "Heartbeat Like A Drum" [4:16]
 * 5) "Every Star Was You" [4:35]
 * 6) "Fashion and Luxury" [4:11]
 * 7) "The Touch" [3:33]
 * 8) "This Feeling" [3:34]
 * 9) "Rhythm of Machinery" [3:44]
 * 10) "Dance With Me" [4:36]

Unreleased songs

 * Cruel Heart
 * Devices and Desires
 * Don't Breathe a Word
 * God
 * Haunting Me
 * I Will Die For You
 * Join Hands
 * Never Enough
 * Never For You
 * Set Me Free
 * Sometimes It Hurts
 * Temptation's Deep Blue Eyes
 * What Do I Have to Do?
 * Who Knows What Love Is

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Operation Neptune (video game)

Operation Neptune is an educational computer game produced in 1991 by The Learning Company. The goal of the game is to guide a small submarine through a variety of undersea caverns, collecting pieces of a ruined space capsule. Like other games by The Learning Company, Operation Neptune is educational and was intended for players age nine to fourteen (grades three through ten). It was released as part of the Super Solvers series for a time.

Plot
A team of astronauts and scientists have begun a secret research project on a distant planet. The research team's results were sent back to Earth on the "Galaxy space capsule", which malfunctioned, crashed into the ocean, and broke into many pieces. The capsule included several data canisters, each of which contains small snippets of the scientists' story, which is revealed to the player as the game progresses and data canisters are found. The capsule also contained some toxic chemicals, which have begun to leak out and threaten the health of the world's sea life. A recovery mission, code-named Operation Neptune, is sent to recover the pieces of the capsule.

Gameplay
The game consists of two campaigns, called Voyager Game and Expert Game; the player selects one when creating a new save file. In both campaigns, the player must complete sixteen levels, called Sectors, which are distributed across five Zones: Dragon Reef, Fossil Trench, Limestone Ridge, Sea Forest, and Hammerhead.

Piloting the Neptune
The game is action-oriented for the most part. In each Sector, the player's goal is to navigate a submarine (the Neptune) through maze-like passages, collect every data capsule, and reach the supply station at the end. The box cover illustration rendered by Marc Ericksen depicts the Neptune submarine recovery vehicle hovering above the basin of Fossil Trench recovering glowing toxic data capsules.

The levels are presented in a flip-screen fashion. Along the way the player will encounter various aggressive and/or territorial sea creatures, which usually move about the level and perform actions in predictable and repeating patterns, as well as non-living hazards like sharp rocks and undersea volcanoes. If the Neptune makes contact with an enemy or hazard, it will lose Oxygen.

The Neptune is capable of firing ink pellets to stun sea creatures and render them harmless to touch, in the manner of an octopus or squid. However, the functionality of ink pellets is limited; enemies stunned in this way will recover and resume their dangerous behavior after a few seconds. Furthermore, the ink pellets are fired in a straight line from the nose of the Neptune, so the player must carefully aim their shots at their intended targets. Finally, the player is limited to only 21 ink pellets per Sector, with no way to replenish their supply during the level. Thus, the player cannot rely on ink pellets to keep the Neptune out of danger, and should only use them in desperate situations. In the Final Sector of either campaign, ink pellets are rendered entirely (or almost entirely) ineffective.

To reliably avoid loss of Oxygen and conserve ink pellets, the player must exercise skill in avoiding enemy formations. Whenever the Neptune enters a new screen, the player is expected to stop and study the behavior of upcoming obstacles, plan their movements in advance, and then execute those movements successfully.

Solving problems
The game will frequently break away from the action-oriented gameplay to present the player with math problems to solve. In problem-solving mode, the game employs a distinctly different interface, presenting text on one side of the screen and an illustration on the other. The math challenge takes the form of a word problem, and it is up to the player to determine the order of operations involved and arrive at the correct solution. Inputting an incorrect solution causes the player to lose Oxygen. If the Neptune survives the problem, the game then returns to action-game mode, resuming precisely where the player left off.

Each Sector contains three invisible and unavoidable trigger points; when the Neptune crosses one of these trigger points, a chime plays and a beacon on the Neptune flashes. These trigger points are generally placed a safe distance away from enemies and hazards, so that the player will not be distracted during a difficult maneuver. After a few seconds, the game switches to problem-solving mode, and presents a word problem randomly selected from a set of problems appropriate for the current difficulty setting. The word problems are themed after situations that might concern a submarine pilot on a scientific expedition.

Types of math problems

 * Ballast Control Panel: Given a list of ten numbers and a sum S, the player must choose any combination of numbers from the list that add up exactly to S. This is framed in-story as the Neptune pilot needing to adjust the ballast in order to control the submarine's ascent or descent rate. In Voyager Game, the player typically selects from a list of numbers typically found in denominations of United States coin money (i.e. 1, 5, 10, 25). In Expert Game, the player typically selects from a list of powers of two (e.g. 1, 2, 4, 8, 16).
 * Sonar: The Neptune pilot is informed of an upcoming obstacle. Given the obstacle's current distance and rate of approach, the player must calculate the time to reach the obstacle, in the requested unit of time (either hours or minutes).
 * Search Grid: Given a partially filled grid, the player is asked to calculate the area of either the shaded or unshaded region.
 * Toxicity Graph: Given a bar chart, the player is asked to interpret two values and calculate the difference. This is framed in-story as the surface ship requesting data on the ecological impact of the Galaxy space capsule.
 * Scale: This problem may occur when the Neptune acquires certain normal capsule pieces. The player must round the exact mass to a less precise value.
 * Distance Traveled Chart: Given the average speed of the Neptune and a duration of time, the player must calculate the total distance traveled.
 * Window Crack: This problem may occur when the Neptune travels through certain tight corridors. In-story, the Neptune's window has cracked, and the exact length of the crack must be accurately reported in order for the window to be replaced at the next supply station. The game displays a black line aligned alongside a ruler, and the player must determine the length of the black line. In later versions of this problem, the player is expected to report the length as a mixed number.
 * Water Tank: In this problem's framing, the Neptune has a limited freshwater supply, and will not be able to replenish it at the next supply station. Given a volume of freshwater and a rate of usage per day, the player must calculate the number of days that the Neptune's pilot can survive on the current supply.
 * Temperature: In-story, a malfunction in the Neptune's onboard battery has reduced its electrical output, and the pilot must act to both conserve energy and preserve their food supply. The player must read an on-screen thermometer and calculate the appropriate temperature adjustment as requested in the problem.
 * Clock: The game shows an analog clock which displays the time in military format. The player must calculate either a time or duration, depending on what the problem requests.
 * Power Supply: The game displays a line chart, where the X-axis represents the Neptune's energy usage per hour and the Y-axis represents the Neptune's speed. Given that the Neptune will travel at S speed for T hours, the player must read the chart, determine the Neptune's energy usage per hour based on S, then multiply by T hours to calculate the Neptune's estimated energy usage over that duration.
 * Radio-Telephone Signals: In-story, the Neptune is required to communicate with the surface ship at regular intervals. Given that the surface ship expects N contacts per hour, the player must calculate the duration of the intervals in between contacts.
 * Oil Supply: Given a maximum oil supply and a gauge which displays remaining oil supply in ten equal increments, the player must read the gauge and accurately report the Neptune's remaining oil supply.
 * Capsule Piece Inventory: In this problem, the player must calculate the sum of five individual weights listed in ounces, and report the total weight in pounds. The player is expected to use a calculator to accomplish this task.
 * Speed Graph: Given a bar chart, the player is asked to interpret six values and calculate the arithmetic mean of those values.
 * Navigation Chart: Given a latitude-longitude chart with two markers, the player must calculate the latitudinal or longitudinal difference of those markers in degrees. In-story, the supply ship is requesting the Neptune's relative distance from the next supply station.
 * Speed Indicator: The game displays a speedometer. The player must read the speedometer and input a new speed as requested by the problem. For example, the Neptune is traveling at 18 MPH, and the problem requests that the pilot reduce their speed by 1/3 of the current value; in this case the player must input a value of 12.
 * Toxicity Level Graph: Not to be confused with the similarly-themed Toxicity Graph problem. In this problem, the game displays a line chart, where the X-axis represents time (with intervals marked in military time), and the Y-axis represents toxicity in PPM, with one Y-value being marked as "Normal". The player must read the graph and accurately report the number of minutes for which the region's toxicity was above "Normal".
 * Depth Gauge: The game displays a graphic indicating the Neptune's depth in feet, and the player must convert this reading into fathoms. The problem initially hides the conversion method from the player; after one wrong answer, the game reveals that 6 feet = 1 fathom.
 * Water Pressure: The game displays a line chart, where the X-axis is the Neptune's depth in feet and the Y-axis is the water pressure in PSI. Given a depth in feet, the player must use the chart to determine the current water pressure.
 * Data Canister: In every Sector, the player must collect one data canister. Upon making contact with the canister, the game instantly transitions to problem-solving mode. All data canister problems feature an arithmetic or geometric sequence five numbers long, with one of the numbers in the sequence removed; the player must calculate the missing number. Upon completing the sequence (or failing twice with enough surplus Oxygen), the player is rewarded with one part of a 15-part story. These data canisters are often found in hazardous locations, so the player must be prepared to move the Neptune to safety as soon as they are finished interacting with them.
 * Combination Lock: At the end of every Sector is a supply station, which the player can only access by first obtaining all collectible items in that Sector. When the Neptune touches the supply station's door with all items collected, the game instantly transitions to problem-solving mode. All supply station problems feature a combination lock which serves as a timing-based math puzzle. The game first rotates the inner lock to generate an arithmetic equation; the outer lock then begins to rotate, and the player must stop the lock at the right time, when the correct answer lines up with the arrow. The player is presented with two arithmetic equations, and if the Neptune survives through both, the player successfully completes the Sector.

The Final Sector features no math problems.

Managing oxygen
At the start of a new game, the Neptune has four Oxygen units (health) and two Oxygen Tanks (lives). If the Neptune runs out of Oxygen at any point, the Neptune is destroyed. When this happens, if the player has at least one Oxygen Tank available, they are sent back to the last checkpoint. Otherwise, the player loses all progress made in the current Sector, the Neptune is sent back to the start of the current Sector, all collectible items are returned to their original positions, and all previously solved math problems have to be solved again.

Touching any enemy or hazard causes the Neptune to lose one Oxygen unit. When Oxygen is lost in this way, if the Neptune still has Oxygen remaining, the Neptune is granted temporary invulnerability, allowing them to escape immediate danger and prevent further loss of Oxygen.

Giving an incorrect answer while in problem-solving mode also costs one Oxygen unit. While in problem-solving mode, if the Neptune has at least three Oxygen units to start with, and gives two incorrect answers, the game will display the correct solution to the problem and allow the player to continue as though the problem had been solved normally.

In most Sectors, a dolphin named Zoom appears in one of the screens. If the Neptune touches Zoom, one of two beneficial effects happen: either the Neptune's Oxygen is restored to full, or (if the Neptune currently has full Oxygen) the Neptune gets one extra Tank. The player is limited to six Tanks. In many cases, when the player reaches the screen where Zoom is located, Zoom will immediately attempt to swim off-screen, and the player must catch him before he escapes; if Zoom escapes the player this way, he will not respawn unless the player loses a Tank or reloads the game. Zoom does not appear in the Third Sector of Fossil Trench, nor the Final Sector.

In the Final Sector, all enemies and hazards destroy the Neptune in one hit, and there are no checkpoints.

Differences between campaigns
While the Neptune travels through the same five zones in each campaign, the level layouts found in Expert Game are quite different from those found in the Voyager Game. In the Expert Game, hazards are placed in more dangerous arrangements, the enemies move in trickier patterns and have new attacks, and some screens feature strong ocean currents which push and pull the Neptune in unexpected and undesirable ways.

In the Voyager Game, the Final Sector features four slow but large sea creatures which destroy the Neptune in a single hit; ink pellets are completely ineffective against them. In the Expert Game, the stage is filled with many fast and aggressive sharks; ink pellets only stun these sharks for a fraction of a second, but this can be used to alter their patrol patterns and make screens safer to cross.

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Radiation burn

A radiation burn is a damage to the skin or other biological tissue and organs as an effect of radiation. The radiation types of greatest concern are thermal radiation, radio frequency energy, ultraviolet light and ionizing radiation.

The most common type of radiation burn is a sunburn caused by UV radiation. High exposure to X-rays during diagnostic medical imaging or radiotherapy can also result in radiation burns. As the ionizing radiation interacts with cells within the body—damaging them—the body responds to this damage, typically resulting in erythema—that is, redness around the damaged area. Radiation burns are often discussed in the same context as radiation-induced cancer due to the ability of ionizing radiation to interact with and damage DNA, occasionally inducing a cell to become cancerous. Cavity magnetrons can be improperly used to create surface and internal burning. Depending on the photon energy, gamma radiation can cause deep gamma burns, with 60Co internal burns common. Beta burns tend to be shallow as beta particles are not able to penetrate deeply into a body; these burns can be similar to sunburn. Alpha particles can cause internal alpha burns if inhaled, with external damage (if any) being limited to minor erythema.

Radiation burns can also occur with high power radio transmitters at any frequency where the body absorbs radio frequency energy and converts it to heat. The U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) considers 50 watts to be the lowest power above which radio stations must evaluate emission safety. Frequencies considered especially dangerous occur where the human body can become resonant, at 35 MHz, 70 MHz, 80-100 MHz, 400 MHz, and 1 GHz. Exposure to microwaves of too high intensity can cause microwave burns.

Types
Radiation dermatitis (also known as radiodermatitis) is a skin disease associated with prolonged exposure to ionizing radiation. Radiation dermatitis occurs to some degree in most patients receiving radiation therapy, with or without chemotherapy.

There are three specific types of radiodermatitis: acute radiodermatitis, chronic radiodermatitis, and eosinophilic, polymorphic, and pruritic eruption associated with radiotherapy. Radiation therapy can also cause radiation cancer.

With interventional fluoroscopy, because of the high skin doses that can be generated in the course of the intervention, some procedures have resulted in early (less than two months after exposure) and/or late (two months or more after exposure) skin reactions, including necrosis in some cases.

Radiation dermatitis, in the form of intense erythema and vesiculation of the skin, may be observed in radiation ports.

As many as 95% of patients treated with radiation therapy for cancer will experience a skin reaction. Some reactions are immediate, while others may be later (e.g., months after treatment).

Acute
Acute radiodermatitis occurs when an "erythema dose" of ionizing radiation is given to the skin, after which visible erythema appears up to 24 hours after. Radiation dermatitis generally manifests within a few weeks after the start of radiotherapy. Acute radiodermatitis, while presenting as red patches, may sometimes also present with desquamation or blistering. Erythema may occur at a dose of 2 Gy radiation or greater.

Chronic
Chronic radiodermatitis occurs with chronic exposure to "sub-erythema" doses of ionizing radiation over a prolonged period, producing varying degrees of damage to the skin and its underlying parts after a variable latent period of several months to several decades. In the past this type of radiation reaction occurred most frequently in radiologists and radiographers who were constantly exposed to ionizing radiation, especially before the use of X-ray filters. Chronic radiodermatitis, squamous and basal cell carcinomas may develop months to years after radiation exposure. Chronic radiodermatitis presents as atrophic indurated plaques, often whitish or yellowish, with telangiectasia, sometimes with hyperkeratosis.

Other
Eosinophilic, polymorphic, and pruritic eruption associated with radiotherapy is a skin condition that occurs most often in women receiving cobalt radiotherapy for internal cancer.

Radiation-induced erythema multiforme may occur when phenytoin is given prophylactically to neurosurgical patients who are receiving whole-brain therapy and systemic steroids.

Delayed effects
Radiation acne is a cutaneous condition characterized by comedo-like papules occurring at sites of previous exposure to therapeutic ionizing radiation, skin lesions that begin to appear as the acute phase of radiation dermatitis begins to resolve.

Radiation recall reactions occur months to years after radiation treatment, a reaction that follows recent administration of a chemotherapeutic agent and occurs with the prior radiation port, characterized by features of radiation dermatitis. Restated, radiation recall dermatitis is an inflammatory skin reaction that occurs in a previously irradiated body part following drug administration. There does not appear to be a minimum dose, nor an established radiotherapy dose relationship.

Alpha burns
"Alpha burns" are caused by alpha particles, which can cause extensive tissue damage if inhaled. Due to the keratin in the epidermal layer of the skin, external alpha burns are limited to only mild reddening of the outermost layer of skin.

Beta burns
"Beta burns"—caused by beta particles—are shallow surface burns, usually of skin and less often of lungs or gastrointestinal tract, caused by beta particles, typically from hot particles or dissolved radionuclides that came to direct contact with or close proximity to the body. They can appear similar to sunburn. Unlike gamma rays, beta emissions are stopped much more effectively by materials and therefore deposit all their energy in only a shallow layer of tissue, causing more intense but more localized damage. On cellular level, the changes in skin are similar to radiodermatitis.

The dose is influenced by relatively low penetration of beta emissions through materials. The cornified keratine layer of epidermis has enough stopping power to absorb beta radiation with energies lower than 70 keV. Further protection is provided by clothing, especially shoes. The dose is further reduced by limited retention of radioactive particles on skin; a 1 millimeter particle is typically released in 2 hours, while a 50 micrometer particle usually does not adhere for more than 7 hours. Beta emissions are also severely attenuated by air; their range generally does not exceed 6 ft and intensity rapidly diminishes with distance.

The eye lens seems to be the most sensitive organ to beta radiation, even in doses far below maximum permissible dose. Safety goggles are recommended to attenuate strong beta.

Careful washing of exposed body surface, removing the radioactive particles, may provide significant dose reduction. Exchanging or at least brushing off clothes also provides a degree of protection.

If the exposure to beta radiation is intense, the beta burns may first manifest in 24–48 hours by itching and/or burning sensation that last for one or two days, sometimes accompanied by hyperaemia. After 1–3 weeks burn symptoms appear; erythema, increased skin pigmentation (dark colored patches and raised areas), followed by epilation and skin lesions. Erythema occurs after 5–15 Gy, dry desquamation after 17 Gy, and bullous epidermitis after 72 Gy. Chronic radiation keratosis may develop after higher doses. Primary erythema lasting more than 72 hours is an indication of injury severe enough to cause chronic radiation dermatitis. Edema of dermal papillae, if present within 48 hours since the exposition, is followed by transepidermal necrosis. After higher doses, the malpighian layer cells die within 24 hours; lower doses may take 10–14 days to show dead cells. Inhalation of beta radioactive isotopes may cause beta burns of lungs and nasopharyngeal region, ingestion may lead to burns of gastrointestinal tract; the latter being a risk especially for grazing animals.

 * In first degree beta burns the damage is largely limited to epidermis. Dry or wet desquamation occurs; dry scabs are formed, then heal rapidly, leaving a depigmented area surrounded with irregular area of increased pigmentation. The skin pigmentation returns to normal within several weeks.
 * Second degree beta burns lead to formation of blisters.
 * Third and fourth degree beta burns result in deeper, wet ulcerated lesions, which heal with routine medical care after covering themselves with dry scab. In case of heavy tissue damage, ulcerated necrotic dermatitis may occur. Pigmentation may return to normal within several months after wound healing.

Lost hair begins regrowing in nine weeks and is completely restored in about half a year.

The acute dose-dependent effects of beta radiation on skin are as follows:

According to other source:

As shown, the dose thresholds for symptoms vary by source and even individually. In practice, determining the exact dose tends to be difficult.

Similar effects apply to animals, with fur acting as additional factor for both increased particle retention and partial skin shielding. Unshorn thickly wooled sheep are well protected; while the epilation threshold for sheared sheep is between 23 and 47 Gy (2500–5000 rep) and the threshold for normally wooled face is 47–93 Gy (5000–10000 rep), for thickly wooled (33 mm hair length) sheep it is 93–140 Gy (10000–15000 rep). To produce skin lesions comparable with contagious pustular dermatitis, the estimated dose is between 465 and 1395 Gy.

Energy vs penetration depth
The effects depend on both the intensity and the energy of the radiation. Low-energy beta (sulfur-35, 170 keV) produces shallow ulcers with little damage to dermis, while cobalt-60 (310 keV), caesium-137 (550 keV), phosphorus-32 (1.71 MeV), strontium-90 (650 keV) and its daughter product yttrium-90 (2.3 MeV) damage deeper levels of the dermis and can result in chronic radiation dermatitis. Very high energies from electron beams from particle accelerators, reaching tens of megaelectronvolts, can be deeply penetrating. Conversely, megavolt-scale beams can deposit their energy deeper with less damage to the dermis; modern radiotherapy electron beam accelerators take advantage of this. At yet higher energies, above 16 MeV, the effect does not show significantly anymore, limiting the usefulness of higher energies for radiotherapy. As a convention, surface is defined as the topmost 0.5 mm of skin. High-energy beta emissions should be shielded with plastic instead of lead, as high-Z elements generate deeply penetrating gamma bremsstrahlung.

The electron energies from beta decay are not discrete but form a continuous spectrum with a cutoff at maximum energy. The rest of the energy of each decay is carried off by an antineutrino which does not significantly interact and therefore does not contribute to the dose. Most energies of beta emissions are at about a third of the maximum energy. Beta emissions have much lower energies than what is achievable from particle accelerators, no more than few megaelectronvolts.

The energy-depth-dose profile is a curve starting with a surface dose, ascending to the maximum dose in a certain depth dm (usually normalized as 100% dose), then descends slowly through depths of 90% dose (d90) and 80% dose (d80), then falls off linearly and relatively sharply though depth of 50% dose (d50). The extrapolation of this linear part of the curve to zero defines the maximum electron range, Rp. In practice, there is a long tail of weaker but deep dose, called "bremsstrahlung tail", attributable to bremsstrahlung. The penetration depth depends also on beam shape, narrower beam tend to have less penetration. In water, broad electron beams, as is the case in homogeneous surface contamination of skin, have d80 about E/3 cm and Rp about E/2 cm, where E is the beta particle energy in MeV.

The penetration depth of lower-energy beta in water (and soft tissues) is about 2 mm/MeV. For a 2.3 MeV beta the maximum depth in water is 11 mm, for 1.1 MeV it is 4.6 mm. The depth where maximum of the energy is deposited is significantly lower.

The energy and penetration depth of several isotopes is as follows:

For a wide beam, the depth-energy relation for dose ranges is as follows, for energies in megaelectronvolts and depths in millimeters. The dependence of surface dose and penetration depth on beam energy is clearly visible.

Causes
Radiation burns are caused by exposure to high levels of radiation. Levels high enough to cause burn are generally lethal if received as a whole-body dose, whereas they may be treatable if received as a shallow or local dose.

Medical imaging
Fluoroscopy may cause burns if performed repeatedly or for too long.

Similarly, X-ray computed tomography and traditional projectional radiography have the potential to cause radiation burns if the exposure factors and exposure time are not appropriately controlled by the operator.

A study of radiation-induced skin injuries has been performed by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) based on results from 1994, followed by an advisory to minimize further fluoroscopy-induced injuries. The problem of radiation injuries due to fluoroscopy has been further investigated in review articles in 2000, 2001, 2009 and 2010.

Radioactive fallout
Beta burns are frequently the result of exposure to radioactive fallout after nuclear explosions or nuclear accidents. Shortly after the explosion, the fission products have very high beta activity, with about two beta emissions per each gamma photon.

After the Trinity test, the fallout caused localized burns on the backs of cattle in the area downwind. The fallout had the appearance of small flaky dust particles. The cattle showed temporary burns, bleeding, and loss of hair. Dogs were also affected; in addition to localized burns on their backs, they also had burned paws, likely from the particles lodged between their toes as hoofed animals did not show problems with feet. About 350–600 cattle were affected by superficial burns and localized temporary loss of dorsal hair; the army later bought 75 most affected cows as the discolored regrown hair lowered their market value. The cows were shipped to Los Alamos and Oak Ridge, where they were observed. They healed, now sporting large patches of white fur; some looked as if they had been scalded.

The fallout produced by the Castle Bravo test was unexpectedly strong. A white snow-like dust, nicknamed by the scientists "Bikini snow" and consisting of contaminated crushed calcined coral, fell for about 12 hours upon the Rongelap Atoll, depositing a layer of up to 2 cm. Residents developed beta burns, mostly on the backs of their necks and on their feet, and were resettled after three days. After 24–48 hours their skin was itching and burning; in a day or two the sensations subsided, to be followed after 2–3 weeks by epilation and ulcers. Darker-colored patches and raised areas appeared on their skin, blistering was uncommon. Ulcers formed dry scabs and healed. Deeper lesions, painful, weeping and ulcerated, formed on more contaminated residents; the majority healed with simple treatment. In general, the beta burns healed with some cutaneous scarring and depigmentation. Individuals who bathed and washed the fallout particles from their skin did not develop skin lesions. The fishing ship Daigo Fukuryu Maru was affected by the fallout as well; the crew suffered skin doses between 1.7 and 6.0 Gy, with beta burns manifesting as severe skin lesions, erythema, erosions, sometimes necrosis, and skin atrophy. Twenty-three U.S. radar servicemen of the 28-member weather station on Rongerik were affected, experiencing discrete 1–4 mm skin lesions which healed quickly, and ridging of fingernails several months later. Sixteen crew members of the aircraft carrier USS Bairoko (CVE-115) received beta burns, and there was an increased cancer rate.

During the Zebra test of the Operation Sandstone in 1948, three men had beta burns on their hands when removing sample collection filters from drones flying through the mushroom cloud; their estimated skin surface dose was 28 to 149 Gy, and their disfigured hands required skin grafts. A fourth man showed weaker burns after the earlier Yoke test.

The Upshot–Knothole Harry test at the Frenchman Flat site released a large amount of fallout. A significant number of sheep died after grazing on contaminated areas. The AEC however had a policy to compensate farmers only for animals showing external beta burns, so many claims were denied. Other tests on the Nevada Test Site also caused fallout and corresponding beta burns to sheep, horses and cattle. During the Operation Upshot–Knothole, sheep as far as 50 mi from the test site developed beta burns to their backs and nostrils.

During underground nuclear testing in Nevada, several workers developed burns and skin ulcers, in part attributed to exposure to tritium.

Nuclear accidents
Beta burns were a serious medical issue for some victims of the Chernobyl disaster; from 115 patients treated in Moscow, 30% had burns covering 10–50% of body surface, 11% were affected on 50–100% of skin; the massive exposure was often caused by clothes drenched with radioactive water. Some firefighters developed beta burns of lungs and nasopharyngeal region after inhalation of massive amounts of radioactive smoke. Out of 28 deaths, 16 had skin injuries listed among the causes. The beta activity was extremely high, with beta/gamma ratio reaching 10–30 and beta energy high enough to damage basal layer of the skin, resulting in large area portals for infections, exacerbated by damage to bone marrow and weakened immune system. Some patients received skin dose of 400–500 Gy. The infections caused more than half of the acute deaths. Several died of fourth degree beta burns between 9–28 days after dose of 6–16 Gy. Seven died after dose of 4–6 Gy and third degree beta burns in 4–6 weeks. One died later from second degree beta burns and dose 1-4 Gy. The survivors have atrophied skin which is spider veined and with underlying fibrosis.

The burns may manifest at different times at different body areas. The Chernobyl liquidators' burns first appeared on wrists, face, neck and feet, followed by chest and back, then by knees, hips and buttocks.

Industrial radiography sources are a common source of beta burns in workers.

Radiation therapy sources can cause beta burns during exposure of the patients. The sources can be also lost and mishandled, as in the Goiânia accident, during which several people had external beta burns and more serious gamma burns, and several died. Numerous accidents also occur during radiotherapy due to equipment failures, operator errors, or wrong dosage.

Electron beam sources and particle accelerators can be also sources of beta burns. The burns may be fairly deep and require skin grafts, tissue resection or even amputation of fingers or limbs.

Treatment
Radiation burns should be covered by a clean, dry dressing as soon as possible to prevent infection. Wet dressings are not recommended. The presence of combined injury (exposure to radiation plus trauma or radiation burn) increases the likelihood of generalized sepsis. This requires administration of systemic antimicrobial therapy.

title: Radiation burn