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Talk:2020s

Collage
It is way too early to add a collage of a decade that is barely a quarter of the way done. A collage for the 2010s was not added until it ended, the same principle should be applied here. 134.41.97.116 (talk) 01:42, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

 * I agree, but it's a lost cause.. it is a problem of enforcement, bored people keep re-introducing the collage every time is removed. The consensus was on keeping a minimal collage: AI, Kabul, Ukraine and Covid-19. Yet, the picture of the British royal family keeps re-appearing Dadoso90 (talk) 18:28, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Remove for now due to WP:WAIT DementiaGaming (talk) 03:50, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Dadoso90, @Deb, @HiLo48, @Nagae Iku, @Escape Orbit, @Thebiguglyalien, @GoodDay @InvadingInvader, @Indiana6724, please post your preferences on this. DementiaGaming (talk) 00:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Image collages should be removed from all Decade pages. GoodDay (talk) 00:28, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I know, but this is about the immediate removal of the 2020s collage because User:Indiana6724 is trying to tell me to stop removing them even though he is violating WP:WAIT. DementiaGaming (talk) 00:48, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * An image collage shouldn't have been added to this particular page. We're not even a quarter into this decade. GoodDay (talk) 01:03, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Totally agree. Deb (talk) 09:26, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * That’s a bit ascetic 2A00:23C8:7484:AB01:84EC:7F7:C31:BE91 (talk) 23:16, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Remove, since it is too difficult to enforce rules and talk discussions are constantly ignored by a few users who keep introducing new images. I would be okay with a smaller collage including images that make sense: Covid-19, Ukraine, AI, but this does not seem to be a workable solution. Dadoso90 (talk) 16:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I like the collage. There’s certainly no harm in having a collage that updates as the decade progresses. I don’t understand this demand for there to be no photo at all, when any respectable Wikipedia page starts with a photo 2A00:23C8:7484:AB01:84EC:7F7:C31:BE91 (talk) 23:15, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Correct, I don’t see any problem with collages, asides on difference between technology and real world events that happened over a decade. -“ Userbase3913 ” (talk) 01:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I would like to invite @HTGS to this discussion to remind him that there is a clear consensus to remove the images (he added them back on 3 January) DementiaGaming (talk) 18:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * In keeping the collage for the moment, we are applying WP:STABLE. When the RFC on collages generally has closed we will likely know whether or not the collage here can remain as a general rule, until that point it appears bad faith to remove it mid-discussion. There is no hurry, and until a closure has been made, there is no harm leaving it as is without all this silly edit warring.
 * For the record, I oppose removing this collage, so we no longer have local consensus here either. (You could also call it WP:BRD if you like.) If it comes to it, we can hold a straw poll on whether this page should have a collage, or when it would be appropriate for a collage to be added. If a straw poll is not preferred, an RFC would also be fine. — HTGS (talk) 08:47, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I’m sure, but it is needed for the article despite the decade not being over yet. ArtForDecades610  (talk) 18:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * So, the consensus is to remove them, then? The people who want to remove them have proved that it is not needed. If so, I will remove it this week. DementiaGaming (talk) 12:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Images should be kept, as they provide visual cues to the prominent events of the decade. I see no difference between this page and most others: they require editorial discretion, but also serve to inform the reader and provide interest to people landing on the article. — HTGS (talk) 20:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I very strongly agree. HiLo48 (talk)

I can't prove it, but I suspect the IP & Mobile editors who are re-adding the image, are likely the same individual. GoodDay (talk) 19:03, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

 * Can someone step in about this? The IPs have repeatedly reverted my edits disruptively, and I think this warrants a WP:WAR report. DementiaGaming (talk) 16:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * An WP:ER report or an WP:AN report. GoodDay (talk) 22:20, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

 * I've requested semi-protection for the page. GoodDay (talk) 22:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. DementiaGaming (talk) 22:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I disagree with page protection, as anyone could still edit the article, but it prevents anonymous users from contributing usefully, so a consensus would assist on debating whether should collage be used or not. ArtForDecades610  (talk) 18:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Afghanistan, Gaza, or both in collage?
As the decade progresses, the war in Gaza is showing itself to be more and more relevant to geopolitics compared with the fall of Kabul. For the collage, should we replace the picture of Operation Allies Refuge with one representing the current invasion of Gaza, or not? Or should we have images of both, or perhaps neither? AwesomeSaucer9 (talk) 09:26, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Popular Culture
I've noticed that Skibidi Toilet is wildly popular in the mid-2020s. It won't let me add it, so I want to poll and see if its worth adding because it is like Fortnite popular. Moron24 (talk) 00:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

 * I'm inclined to see this... as a flash in the pan, but it does get described as "one of the biggest trends on the platform [Youtube]", with someone from YT saying "It’s become one of the year’s [2023] biggest cultural moments", so honestly it probably does merit a mention, at least for now, until it's eclipsed by the next few years of cultural moments. — HTGS (talk) 03:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Lead image montage (outer space please)
Can we at least add one photo showing 2020s space advancement in the lead image montage so it's not just all photos of death and destruction?... I.e., James Webb Space Telescope, Ingenuity helicopter, Lunar Gateway, Artemis program, etc., etc. Thanks. ~ Flyedit32 (talk) 02:06, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

 * If we were to add one image, what would you pick? I also note that neither the section, nor the article 2020s in science and technology have any images attached. It might be productive to start with those. — HTGS (talk) 02:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter. Pick one - as long as it's not a picture of disease or devastation. How about this, taken from the JWST in '22. Appreciate the help. NASA’s Webb Reveals Cosmic Cliffs, Glittering Landscape of Star Birth.jpg ~ Flyedit32 (talk) 02:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elada Omnia Consulting

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. — J I P | Talk 07:19, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Elada Omnia Consulting
Appears to be an advertisement for the company Bobstay 12:03, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Is this my first delete here? Delete POV advertising. --ShaunMacPherson 12:21, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete - I put up a speedy delete notice before; advertising to the fullest. -WindFish 12:39, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Additionally, it returns 133 Google results. -WindFish 12:40, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete spam, non-notabel company. i have munged the links so they don't show up in google searches and arte not clickable, panding deleteion. This is not, however a speedy, at least not IMO. DES (talk) 18:27, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Article says "We want to deliver our products and services that you need: ", and includes a fax #. spam, eggs, bacon and spam. Eaglizard 14:28, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete blatant advertising. -- DS1953 04:57, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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Chester General rail crash

The Chester General rail crash occurred on 8 May 1972 at Chester, northwest England, resulting in extensive fire damage, but no casualties. It was caused by brake failure through human error.

Course of events
The 19:31 freight train from Ellesmere Port to Mold Junction consisted of 38 wagons hauled by a Class 24 diesel locomotive no. 5028. The first five wagons were tank wagons containing kerosene, petrol and gas oil.

At around 20:50 the train was approaching Chester station (then known as Chester General) on a 1 in 100 falling gradient when the driver discovered that the brakes had failed. It ran past a signal at danger and through a set of points which were set for no. 11 bay platform, where an empty diesel multiple unit was standing.

As there was nothing more he could do, the driver jumped out onto the platform with the train still travelling at around 20 mph. It ploughed straight into the DMU and completely destroyed the first coach. The second coach was torn from its bogies and thrown up onto the platform where it demolished the refreshment room wall. There were very few people on that part of the station, although the staff in the refreshment room had to shelter themselves from falling masonry.

A major fire broke out when the burst fuel tanks of the trains ignited, but the fire brigade were based nearby and arrived within a couple of minutes. They were able to rescue a trapped postal worker and evacuated several passengers from an adjacent lightly loaded train before it too was engulfed by the fire.

Damage caused to the trains was severe, especially after petrol from two of the tank wagons began to boil and was forced out of the pressure relief valves, whereupon it ignited. The fire was not extinguished until 00:20 the following day.

The trains involved were all written off and a section of the station roof was damaged and consequently removed.

Causes
The first eight wagons were equipped with the vacuum brake but the pipes had not been connected. The train had run from Ellesmere Port as an unbraked freight train and stopped at Helsby, where it needed to reverse. The guard had forgotten to connect the vacuum pipes when the locomotive coupled up to the opposite end of the train, so that extra brake power was not available on the falling gradient into Chester. The driver had also omitted to carry out a brake test before departure.

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List of companies of Saint Lucia

Saint Lucia is a sovereign island country in the eastern Caribbean Sea on the boundary with the Atlantic Ocean. Part of the Lesser Antilles, it is located north/northeast of the island of Saint Vincent, northwest of Barbados and south of Martinique. It covers a land area of 617 km2 (238.23 sq mi) and reported a population of 165,595 in the 2010 census. Its capital is Castries.

Saint Lucia has been able to attract foreign business and investment, especially in its offshore banking and tourism industries, which is Saint Lucia's main source of revenue. The manufacturing sector is the most diverse in the Eastern Caribbean area, and the government is trying to revitalise the banana industry. Despite negative growth in 2011, economic fundamentals remain solid, and GDP growth should recover in the future.

Notable firms
This list includes notable companies with primary headquarters located in the country. The industry and sector follow the Industry Classification Benchmark taxonomy. Organizations which have ceased operations are included and noted as defunct.

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Live at the Hope and Anchor

Live at the Hope and Anchor is a live album by the Stranglers, released on 9 March 1992 by EMI. It consists of an entire set from a concert at the Hope and Anchor pub in Islington, North London, recorded on 22 November 1977.

Background
This particular concert took place on the opening night of the "Front Row Festival", a series of shows by regulars of the venue during 1977. The album was originally only available as a bootleg recording. The song "Tits" featured on the white EP that was given away free with the first 75,000 copies of the band's Black and White album in 1978. "Hanging Around" and "Straighten Out" were included on the "Front Row Festival" album, released in 1978. "In the Shadows" was previously released on the "Don't Bring Harry" EP in 1979. Many of the songs in the band's set that night were played by request; for this show, they rehearsed their entire catalogue. It is regarded as one of the band's more memorable shows. In 1992 the whole concert received an official release, produced by Stranglers bassist/vocalist Jean Jacques Burnel.

Personnel
Credits adapted from the album's liner notes, except where noted.

The Stranglers
 * Hugh Cornwell – guitar, vocals
 * Jean-Jacques Burnel – bass, vocals
 * Dave Greenfield – keyboards, vocals
 * Jet Black – drums

Technical
 * Jean-Jacques Burnel – producer
 * Tim Summerhayes – engineer (Rak Records Mobile)
 * Assorted Images – sleeve
 * Chris Gabrin – photography
 * Trevor Rogers – photography
 * Nik Yeoman – liner notes

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Sigmundur Brestisson

Sigmundur Brestisson (961–1005) was a Faroese Viking chieftain, and was responsible for introducing Christianity to the Faroe Islands in 999. He is one of the main characters of the Færeyinga saga.

According to the Færeyinga saga, emigrants who left Norway to escape the tyranny of Harald I of Norway, settled in the islands about the beginning of the 9th century. Early in the 11th century, Sigmundur, whose family had flourished in the southern islands but had been almost exterminated by invaders from the north, was sent back to the Faroe Islands, whence he had escaped, to take possession of the islands for Olaf Tryggvason, king of Norway.

Sigmundur was the first Faroe Islander to convert to the Christian faith, bringing Christianity to the Faroes at the decree of Olaf Tryggvason. Initially Sigmundur sought to convert the islanders by reading the decree to the Alting in Tórshavn, but was nearly killed by the resulting angry mob. He then changed his tactics, went with armed men to the residence of the chieftain Tróndur í Gøtu and broke in his house by night. He offered him the choice between accepting Christianity or face beheading; he chose the former. Later, in 1005, Tróndur í Gøtu attacked Sigmundur by night at his yard in Skúvoy, whereupon he fled by swimming to Sandvík on Suðuroy. He reached land in Sigmundargjógv in Sandvík, but a farmer in the village killed the exhausted Sigmundur, and stole his precious golden arm ring.

According to tradition, his gravestone is located in the so-called Sigmundarsteinur in Skúvoy. It bears a carved cross and was part of the old church.

title: Sigmundur Brestisson