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Talk:Hurricane Vince

Weather cat?
I'm looking for an article or category for bizarre weather events to place this into... CrazyC83 15:56, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

HH ref?
Is there a source for the bit about the Hurricane Hunters investigating the storm? I find it very unlikely that the U.S. would send an aircraft all the way across the Atlantic to investigate a storm that had no chance of affecting the U.S. Perhaps it was an aircraft out of the Azores and not a true Hurricane Hunter that investigated? --Holderca1 16:11, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Image
We need to get that awesome pic on the Wunderground site that AySz88 linked to on the main talk page for the infobox. The image there now is not as good and is the same one from the main article.

E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 16:37, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Done (though not in the infobox). --AySz88 ^ -  ^  03:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Merging
I propose merging this with the main page (2005 Atlantic hurricane season). Sure, it's notable and pretty neat, but so was Hurricane Ivan in 1980, so were other storms, but this isn't notable to be its own article. What is wrong with the main page? Hurricanehink 22:04, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I was thinking the same. But as I thought about it some more, the article is well developed and it establishes notability. It is unique in where it formed and the fact that it reached hurricane status, the fact that it landed on the Iberian etc. I would therefore oppose the merge. 12.220.47.145 23:10, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * As Hurricane Faith only did marginal damage, and as Hurricane Vince is far more noteworthy in its oddities than Faith, and as Faith has its own article, so too should Vince. --69.86.16.61 02:23, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I guess it is noteworthy enough. OK, I'll change my mind. Hurricanehink 11:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * What? Hurricane Faith is not even in the same ballpark. Vince and others may have formed or gone unusually far north, but Faith defined it. The unimpuned circulation of Faith was tracked as far north as Franz Josef Land, just 300 miles from the North Pole! It was a tropical system into the GIUK Gap! It brought tropical storm force wind gusts to Murmansk, Russia, roughly 100 miles north of the Arctic Circle! I'm sorry, but comparing Faith to Vince is like comparing Hank Aaron to Derek Jeter. I consider Faith one of the most amazing tropical cyclones to ever exist in the Atlantic. Vince barely makes the top 10.

 * E. Brown, Hurricane enthusiast - Squawk Box 21:39, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Well if Vince is sitting at #10 for you, then it definitely deserves its own article. Unless you are saying only 9 Atlantic tropical cyclones in history deserve their own article. PK9 23:51, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I vote merge. The picture in this article should be moved to the main page though. TimL 09:18, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 * There is quite a bit of information in the article. And its well written, I don't see the need to merge a well written article. 12.220.47.145 03:25, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Vince has several notable qualities attributed to it. It is a first in several of these ways too.  Because of those reasons and that this article is already very informative, I would oppose a merger with the main 2005 Atlantic Hurricane Season article. 68.115.4.162 18:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I think that Vince should remain having its own article. I specifically searched Wikipedia for it.

Farthest north and east

 * Everybody says Vince is the Farthest North and Eastern formation of any Tropical Cyclone in the Atlantic Basin. Sure, I agree with it being the farthest north, but I looked at every year on Unisys and saw plenty of Tropical Systems forming farther east than 19.1 degrees W. Here is a list:
 * Hurricane #3 (1900) Longitude 18.5. A tropical Storm at the time.
 * Hurricane Able (1952) Longitude 19.0. A tropical deppresion at the time.
 * Tropical Storm Becky (1962) Longitude 18.8. A tropical deppression at the time.
 * Hurricane Dora (1964) Longitude 18.0. A tropical deppression at the time.
 * Tropical Storm Ginger (1967) Ad. 1 Longitude 18.3. It was a tropical deppression at the time.
 * Ad. 2 Longitude 18.2. "
 * Ad. 3 Longitude 18.1. It was a tropical storm at the time.
 * Ad. 4 Longitude 18.2. "
 * Ad. 5 Longitude 18.5. "
 * Ad. 6 Longitude 18.9. "
 * Tropical Storm Christine (1973) Ad. 1 Longitude 14.0 (on land in Africa). It was a tropical deppression at the time.
 * Ad. 2 Longitude 15.2. "
 * Ad. 3 Longitude 16.4. "
 * Ad. 4 Longitude 17.7. "
 * Ad. 5 Longitude 19.0. "
 * Hurricane Frances (1980) Longitude 19.0. It was a tropical deppression at the time.
 * Tropical Strom Dennis (1987) Longitude 18.4. It was a tropical deppression at the time.
 * Tropical Storm #6 (1988) Ad. 1 Longitude 17.5. It was a tropical deppression at the time.
 * Ad. 2 Longitude 18.0. "
 * Ad. 3 Longitude 18.5. It was a tropical storm at the time.
 * Ad. 4 Longitude 19.0. "
 * Ad. 5 Longitude 19.1. "
 * Hurricane Jeanne (1998) Ad. 1 Longitude 17.4. It was a tropical deppression at the time.
 * Ad. 2 Longitude 18.2. "
 * Hurricane Cindy (1999) Longitude 18.9. It Tropical deppression at the time.
 * Hurricane Alberto (2000) Longitude 18.0. It was a tropical deppression at the time.
 * And of course, Hurricane Vince (2005)

Unlike Vince, they all moved westward, just developed early. Vince remained that far east and actually went even farther. CrazyC83 19:44, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Tropical Storm #6 went up north and stayed to the east.

 * The area where Vince formed, on the 150 year record of tropical cyclones in the Atlantic, is over 500 miles or so away from any other storm track. Vince existed in an area where no tropical cyclone on record had ever been before. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 03:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

 * At you can see the tracks of all tropical cyclones (including depressions and subtropical) of the last 155 years.  On this map Vince is certainly way off by itself (2005 storms are not pictured).  However the 2005 season article claimed Vince was the farthest-north and farthest-east storm ever to reach hurricane strength.  This is wrong; numerous storms (including Irene for starters) were further north.  I'm pretty sure several of the storms listed there also formed further east.  I believe the original NHC claim was that it was the furthest northeast for any tropical system (not hurricane) to develop...which I will believe. Jdorje 23:41, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Sure there hasn't been a storm ever to form in that area, but that's not what everyone says. They just say it's the farthest north and east formation of a storm. Wrong! Only North!

 * Please sign your comments. And, I am rather doubtful that it is the farthest north a storm has ever developed, though I suppose it depends on your definition of "storm".  It is certainly not the farthest north a hurricane has ever developed; it might be the farthest north a tropical storm or tropical depression has (I have no counter-examples for this yet). Jdorje 00:47, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Hurricane #8 in 1991 formed became tropical at 36 degrees north. I think this might have a record for furthest northeast, though. But others have it beat for north alone and east alone. --Patteroast 09:40, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Can't you just look in the history and write the information about when I wrote this if you care that much about it. Novemeber 16, 2005 (I don't know UTC time, New Englander here!)Ca. 5:45 PM EST

You don't need to use UTC... Just sign with 4 tildes (~) - User:Burwellian 01:07, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Oh. I see. Now that you said that the Halloween Storm Formed at 36N, I don't agree with north or east. Maybe the National Hurricane Center Meant NOrtheast.24.128.149.7 14:14, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Well I've found the text for the citation of "farthest north and east". It's in Dr. William Gray's review of the 2005 atlantic hurricane season at http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Forecasts/2005/nov2005/ I suppose it can be argued that those are Dr. Gray's words, not empirical evidence, but it's a source nonetheless. PK9 23:58, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah but I still don't know what "farthest north and east" means. There are three possible interpretations, and I think we've already made clear that "farthest north and farthest east" is not the correct one. Jdorje 01:08, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

The answer

 * Unless someone can explain what this "record" means, I will remove it. It is sufficient to say that the hurricane formed unusually far to the northeast without making incorrect and confusing claims. Jdorje 01:47, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

To clarify, the problem is this. The record is supposedly that vince is the "farthest north and east any tropical cyclone has formed in the atlantic". Now, there are several issues to argue about.
 * Tropical cyclone means tropical-storm strength. I suppose we can assume this means initial formation.
 * Farthest north and east at first glance means "farthest north and farthest east", meaning that no cyclone formed farther north or farther east; as explained below this is certainly false. It could mean "farthest (north and east)", so that no cyclone as formed farther north *and* farther east; this record seems to hold up but it doesn't mean anything since many storms can claim this.  Or it could mean "farthest northeast", which is terrible wording but does seem to be the correct record.

According to the advisories, vince formed at (-19.2, 34.0).

The farthest-east-forming cyclones are:

And the farthest-north-forming cyclones are:

And the farthest northeast-forming storms (highest latitude + longitude) are: because of the roundness of the earth, I'm not positive that latitude + longitude is the correct way to measure northeasterliness. However it does seem that vince is the farthest northeast that any storm has formed.

Jdorje 02:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Since we do have sources for this record, it should at least be noted that people say that Vince is the "farthest northeast", but also that there is uncertainty over what that means. --AySz88 ^ -  ^  03:26, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, we do have a source: the best-track data. The problem is it's hard to verify the record from the source.  In the above tables, I made a list (via a computer) of how far northeast every storm formed (reached ts strength), and Vince is, indeed, by far the most northeast of them.  But this is still hard to verify...you can look at the best-track and see the point of formation of each storm, and by looking at a couple of storms you can convince yourself the list is correct.  But verifying every one by hand would not be feasible. Jdorje 03:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

 * The record is this: Vince formed with latitude+longitude (i.e., "northeasterliness") of 14.8. The next closest was 1988's Ivan, at 11.0 (nearly 4 degrees off; note that a degree does not correspond to an exact distance however).  The dropoff is very quick; the sixth most northeasterly storm is Ginger at -0.1, nearly a full 15 degrees to the southwest of where vince formed. Jdorje 03:38, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Wait, so the best track data itself is dubious?
 * The "sources" I had been talking about were things like Gray's season summary, which lists Vince's northeastern-most formation, and I have to assume that someone verified the record at Dr. Gray's place. --AySz88 ^ -  ^  18:18, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

 * No, the best-track data is the most official source, although it is still just an estimate (which the NHC may revise in future through re-analysis), and the Atlantic hurricane best track isn't always complete since it only gives the track at 6-hour intervals. This is much more official than Gray's season summary, since (1) he could easily have made a mistake and (2) the best-track may be revised in future, which would potentially change the records (although unlikely in this case since the record is set by a huge margin). — jdorje (talk) 18:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

 * In particular on point (2), Gray's summary was written before the Vince TCR comes out. The TCR will of course include Vince's best-track, which is more accurate than the advisory data. — jdorje (talk) 18:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Map
Now that we have all this data, why don't we just compile it into a map with the various positions? That would make a great visual assistance to these abstract coordinates, and drive the nail home. Circeus 19:15, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Annular hurricane?
Looking at the image of Vince, it looks the type of hurricane described by Annular hurricane. Is this possible? Reub2000 11:53, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I doubt it, the eyewall isn't complete enough. It reminds me more of Cyclone Catarina. -- §  Hurricane  ERIC  § archive 15:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Split infinitive question
The NHC had decided not to declare the system a tropical cyclone because the water temperature was too low for one to normally develop. Is the meaning here that it was too cold to develop in a normal fashion or that it was colder than the temperatures in which a storm normally would develop. I'm guessing the latter, but can anyone verify this? Thanks. Rockhopper10r 23:47, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * While Vince did get off to a subtropical start, the transition to tropical cyclone shortly thereafter makes me think that the development of Vince was fairly normal. But with hurricanes, normal is somewhat relative.  I'd say the latter option. 68.115.4.162 22:20, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Todo
Find more information of substance, and clarify or remove the "farthest north and east" record. Jdorje 21:56, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

 * There's some information that may clarify Vince's unusual formation: . Good kitty 04:31, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Smallest Hurricane??
Is it true that Vince was the smallest hurricane on record? Fishhead|§ 22:53, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Extremely unlikely. What's your source? — jdorje (talk) 22:56, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Isn't TC Tracy the smallest? Icelandic Hurricane 21:02, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Tracy was a Typhoon,not a Hurricane. Circeus 21:10, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Technically it was a cyclone, but when you say smallest hurricane, most people assume you mean tropical cyclone. Hurricanehink 21:13, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Alberto 88 furthest north?
It mentions that Alberto from 1988 formed further north than Vince, but from what I can tell from the 1988 Atlantic hurricane season article, it didn't. I don't know which Alberto that is supposed to talk about, but someone needs to fix it.  Jamie |  C  22:05, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Alberto became a tropical storm further north than Vince. That's probably it. Hurricanehink 22:19, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The table several pages up lists the farthest-north-forming storms. There are a large number of storms that formed (reached TS strength) further north than vince.  Alberto is the farthest-north-forming one since 1860. — jdorje (talk) 23:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

The Spanish Armada Hurricane?
Apparently, there was a hurricane on record in 1588 that hit the Spanish Armada, which would definetly make it the northernmost hurricane ever since the Armada at the time was slightly northwest of Ireland. The referr about the hurricane is here. Scroll down to 2.6, the return to spain.The Spanish Armada Hurricane

 * I changed the wording slightly to make it less ambiguous  Jamie |  C [[Image:Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg|22px|]]

 * There is no evidence that that was a hurricane. It is more likely it was an extratropical storm (e.g., Hurricane Maria) or a so-called European windstorm.  Additionally, Vince was not the northernmost hurricane, so this discussion isn't really relevant.  Tropical storms have struck Ireland before but they don't form there. — jdorje (talk) 02:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * But theres no evidence that it was an extratropical storm ether, since it occured in 1588, it possbile to be a freak-late season hurricane that strayed off its course. Storm05 14:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Uh, climatology is probably the biggest evidence. Given that no storm was there in recorded history is probably a big hint. It probably was a simple extratropical storm. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 15:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Climatology recordes did not exist in 1588 (and any climatology records before the modern age are specutive) and you cant that there was no storm in recorded history because it happened in 1588 before people even track (and any records at that time might have been lost over time) and it occured in late July or early August which is possbily that this storm might have been a cape verde type hurricane that became extratropical. Storm05 17:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on the last part. It could have once been a hurricane that became extratropical. However, I doubt, looking at the climatology of the last 150 years, that a tropical system could exist in the English Channel. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:15, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it really unlikely that this was a tropical system at the time it struck the Spanish, (not in the Channel Hink, but further north near Ireland), but that does not mean it wasn't tropical in origin. We are talking about 1588 here, which was near the start of the Little Ice Age, I would suspect northern waters to be slightly colder than is presently the case. A source from the period calling it a hurricane in no way implies it was a tropical cyclone, it only suggests hurricane strength winds were present. Another example is the Great Storm of 1987 which was commonly called a "hurricane"; it was quite clearly non-tropical, though it did produce hurricane-force gusts.--Nilfanion (talk) 17:30, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Update Tag
Why was the update tag added to this article? The last paragraph of the storm history summarizes the TCR. TimL 21:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I added it because glancing at the storm history has many numbers that are incorrect based on the TCR. All that's needed is a review of the storm history, comparing to the TCR info. — jdorje (talk) 21:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see what you are talking about and am removing the tag. TimL 04:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * For starters, it doesn't even mention how, or when, the storm actually formed. I reverted it to put it back up. Hurricanehink 12:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I merged the last paragraph into the first paragraph and corrected the second paragraph wrt dissipation. TimL 17:54, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Ineresting Radar Image
I uploaded an interesting radar image from the TCR which shows the cyclonic circulation of vince just off the coast of Portugal. Anyone think it should go in the article? TimL 18:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Wow, just saw it. I added it in. Hurricanehink 23:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Todo2
Rewriting this one was nasty, the storm history was awful as it stood; in my biased opinion it is much better now. I think that (the thumbnail of) the radar pic should be made smaller, it looks a bit too big as it stands - maybe crop the top half of it? Apart from that... more copyediting, ("which defies general thought..."- needs sourcing) and perhaps some press reports?--Nilfanion 23:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Good idea on the pic. Hurricanehink 23:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

A-Class article process?
Sorry, if this is the wrong place to put my question, please excuse my inexperience. I've seen that this article is already a good article, so is there a process similar to the good article process to bring it up to an A-Class article? 65.8.35.224 19:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

GA Sweeps Review: Pass
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Meteorology and atmospheric sciences" articles. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have made several minor corrections throughout the article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2006. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would also be beneficial to go through the article and update all of the access dates of the inline citations and fix any dead links. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 04:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Dissipation in the Med?
The Spanish version of this article (which you would expect to be good but isn't) mentions that "el rastro del sistema, cada vez más debilitado, prosiguió hasta la costa del mediterráneo". I haven't seen a source that tracks the remnants to the Mediterranean, but that would be an interesting addition to the storm history. Also todo: expand storm history, find any "aftermath" if it exists, and copyedit.  Plasticup  T / C  03:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Trying to sleep, but found this: It explains that la Ronda de Poniente is and talks about its construction - which was interrupted by Vince. When I have time to read it (my Spanish is shaky) I'll try to work it in. Just don't want to lose the link.  Plasticup   T / C  03:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
Another FA for the hurricane project. Congrats! Perhaps you guys will eventually shift to tornadoes? — Deckiller 04:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There's another WikiProject for that... ;) –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  13:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And by-the-by, Hurricane Cindy (2005) has a bit on tornadoes. You probably won't see it on FAC, if you feel like reviewing a Good Article Nomination...  Plasticup  T / C  14:09, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Which is correct?
This article: "[Vince is not] the most easterly-forming Atlantic tropical storm; [this was] Ginger of the 1967 season."

1967 Atlantic hurricane season: "[Ginger] is the farthest east that a tropical cyclone has ever formed until Hurricane Vince."

They can't both be correct. 86.136.250.154 (talk) 23:53, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure that it's Ginger, but HURDAT would have the answer. Could be a matter of Tropical Storm vs Hurricane or something subtle like that.  Plasticup  T / C  00:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

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The original title of the movie was Cheaters but was thought that likely to be confused with the 2000 movie Cheaters starring Jeff Daniels.

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Physics teacher Mr. Harkin is about to give an incredibly difficult midterm exam, and to steal his answer key, Handsome fakes confiding in Harkin about being sexually confused while Victor copies his answer key. Victor tells Handsome that they should cut ties with Applebee entirely, but Handsome gets him to settle on only excluding Applebee from the upcoming physics midterm. They eventually reconcile, but tensions remain high between Victor and Applebee. Sammy starts getting a smart, upstanding classmate named Julie Merkel to tutor him, and tells Handsome that he doesn't want to cheat on tests anymore, but Handsome convinces Sammy to keep participating. Handsome, Sammy and Victor cheat on the physics midterm, after which Harkin pulls the three of them aside to accuse them of cheating. Handsome denies cheating in a dramatic rant, during which he pulls off his shirt. Harkin believes him, while Sammy and Victor are reprimanded by Principal Stark.

World history teacher Mrs. Herman, nicknamed "the grade book" for keeping a meticulous written record of her students' daily behaviors, is about to give her class their final exam. Julie, resentful for being waitlisted by Tufts University and having to compete with cheaters for good grades, convinces the other girls to stop giving their notes to the boys. Sammy decides to exclude himself from cheating on the history final. Victor takes his frustration out on Herman's adopted sons with a cruel prank phone call, but is convinced by Handsome to apologize to them and recruit their help in stealing their mother's answer key. Victor and Handsome nickname them "Greedy" and "Horny" for demanding $400 and a date with a girl they both have a crush on. Victor receives the answer key from them, and the crew of six - Handsome, Victor, Applebee, and three new accomplices - forsake crib sheets in favor of making up an obscene song to help them memorize the answers. Principal Stark is convinced that Sammy and Victor have turned over a new leaf, and decides not to punish them after all.

Towards the end of their senior year, Mrs. Herman uses her grade book as leverage against her students while they're seeking college admissions, spurring Handsome and Victor to steal and destroy her grade book. The collective punishments given to the class, and lack of grading data jeopardizing their final grades, threatens to turn Handsome's and Victor's classmates against them. Principal Stark receives an anonymous letter that blames Victor alone for stealing the grade book, and Stark trusts Sammy - a founding member of the student court - to confirm Victor's guilt. Handsome, Victor and Sammy (now working as a double agent to help his friends) suspect Applebee wrote the letter, and having to prevent anyone from Herman's class from naming them on their upcoming video depositions. Handsome tries to intimidate Julie by convincing her that students will chant "Julie is a rat" during their graduation ceremony. Victor goes overboard in trying to intimidate Applebee, causing Applebee to immediately testify that Victor is guilty.

Sammy is able to offer Victor a plea bargain, in which he retakes world history at summer school to still get his diploma. Victor reveals Handsome's involvement in his guilty plea. Sammy offers Handsome the same plea bargain, which Handsome ultimately accepts. At graduation, Handsome apologizes to Applebee for having looked at his psychological profile earlier in the year, which stated that Applebee has a crooked penis. Mr. Harkin gives Handsome an achievement award in physics, to the crowd's shock - while narrating to the viewer, Handsome insists that he truly did pass the physics midterm without cheating, despite his pattern of doing so elsewhere. The crowd mocks Handsome by chanting "cheated on the midterm", to which Handsome happily shrugs. As the credits roll, it's revealed that Mrs. Herman's adopted sons wrote the anonymous letter to get revenge on Victor, Victor himself was also adopted, Sammy tried to have sex with Julie in her sleep, Mr. Harkin taught Handsome and Victor's summer school class, and that they wore skimpy clothing to try to ensure themselves A-grades, suggesting that Mr. Harkin himself is gay.

Main cast

 * Trevor Fehrman as Handsome Davis
 * Elden Henson as Sammy Green
 * Matthew Lawrence as Victor Barone
 * Martin Starr as Jonathan Applebee
 * Mary Tyler Moore as Mrs. Stark, Principal, North Point Academy
 * Maggie Lawson as Julie Merkel
 * Babz Chula as Mrs. Rosengarden
 * David Krumholtz as Evan Rosengarden
 * Dixon Cohee as Greedy Herman
 * Griffin Dunne as Mr. Davis, Handsome's father
 * Morris Panych as Mr. Alex Harkin
 * Will Sanderson as Rexler
 * Jewel Staite as Teddy Blue
 * Bill Switzer as Garret
 * Tseng Chang as Marty
 * Barbara Tyson as Mrs. Herman
 * Kathryn Anderson as 2nd Grade Teacher
 * Brett Kelly as Young Sammy
 * Casey Dubois as Handsome (2nd Grade / Kindergarten)
 * Leonie Haworth as Julie (2nd Grade)

Release
The film was scheduled to be released in 2001, but was delayed until September 20, 2002. It was released on DVD and VHS in 2003.

Documentary
On the DVD edition there is an 18-minute documentary, showing people on whose real life events the story is based, more than 10 years earlier. The real Jonathan Applebee refused to take part in the special feature documentary based on the actual Cheats, so his name had to be censored whenever used.

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The Plugz

 The Plugz  (also known as "Los Plugz") were a Latino punk band from Los Angeles that formed in 1977 and disbanded in 1984. They and The Zeros were among the first Latino punk bands, although several garage rock bands, such as Thee Midniters and Question Mark & the Mysterians, predated them. The Plugz melded the spirit of punk and Latino music.

History
The band was formed in 1977 and was a contemporary of the bands featured in the film The Decline of Western Civilization. Their songs reflected the anger and angst of growing up Chicano, and this was reflected in their sardonic hi-speed version of Ritchie Valens' "La Bamba". The Plugz are generally acknowledged as being the first D.I.Y. punk band in L.A., having started their own PLUGZ RECORDS and later Fatima records.

The band was initially composed of:

 * Tito Larriva (lead vocals/guitar)
 * Charlie Quintana (drums) (d. 2018)
 * Barry McBride (bass/backing vocals)

This lineup recorded the band's first album, Electrify Me, produced and engineered by Alan Kutner, and released in 1979. The Plugz melded the spirit of punk and Latino music.

After McBride left (sometime in 1979–80), he was replaced by John Curry from The Flyboys, who left to form Choir Invisible less than a year later. Larriva and Curry wrote the title track to the second album Better Luck. The musicians on the band's second album, Better Luck (1981), were:

Guests:
 * Tito Larriva (lead vocals/guitar)
 * Charlie Quintana (drums) (credited as "Chalo Quintana")
 * Gustavo Santaolalla (bass/guitars/charango/backing vocals)
 * Aníbal Kerpel (keyboards)
 * Steve Berlin (saxophone)
 * Bruce Fowler (trombone)
 * Steve Fowler (saxophone)
 * Brian Qualls (piano)

Tony Marsico joined the band in late 1980, and Steven Hufsteter began playing lead guitar with the group in 1984.

With the addition of Steven Hufsteter on lead guitar, The Plugz also feature prominently on the soundtrack to the movie Repo Man. The group performed "Hombre Secreto," a Spanish version of Johnny Rivers' "Secret Agent Man", "El Clavo y la Cruz" and original instrumental background music for the film, part of which appears on the soundtrack as Reel Ten.

Plugz bassist Tony Marsico and drummer Charlie Quintana together with their friend, guitar player JJ Holiday, accompanied Bob Dylan on his appearance on Late Night with David Letterman on March 22, 1984, for three songs: "Don't Start Me Talkin'" (by Sonny Boy Williamson), "Jokerman", and "License to Kill".

In 1984, The Plugz name was retired and the three members continued as the Cruzados with Steven Hufsteter.

The Plugz reunited the three founding members for The Masque 30th Anniversary Party and Book Release show on November 11, 2007, at The Echoplex in the Echo Park district of Los Angeles, California.

Discography

 * "Move // Mindless Contentment / Let Go" single on Slash Records (1978)
 * Electrify Me (1979) PLUGZ RECORDS
 * "Achin' / La Bamba" single on Fatima Records (1981)
 * Better Luck (1981)
 * Los Angelinos – the eastside renaissance (compilation) (1983)
 * Repo Man soundtrack (1984)
 * Bob Dylan & The Plugz (1984)
 * New Wave Hookers soundtrack – Electrify Me (1985)
 * We're Desperate: The L.A. Scene 1976-79 - Rhino compilation (1993) "La Bamba"

Track listing – Electrify Me (1979)

 * 1) "A Gain – A Loss" (Tito Larriva)
 * 2) "The Cause" (Tito Larriva)
 * 3) "Electrify Me" (Tito Larriva)
 * 4) "Satisfied Die" (Tito Larriva/Barry McBride)
 * 5) "La Bamba" (public domain)
 * 6) "Adolescent" (Tito Larriva)
 * 7) "Braintime" (Tito Larriva)
 * 8) "Wordless" (Tito Larriva)
 * 9) "Let Go" (Tito Larriva/Barry McBride)
 * 10) "Infection" (Tito Larriva)
 * 11) "Berserktown" (Tito Larriva)

Track listing – Better Luck (1981)

 * 1) "Better Luck" (Tito Larriva/Curry)
 * 2) "Red Eye No. 9" (Tito Larriva)
 * 3) "Achin'" (Tito Larriva)
 * 4) "American" (Tito Larriva)
 * 5) "In The Wait" (Tito Larriva)
 * 6) "El Clavo Y La Cruz" (Tito Larriva)
 * 7) "Blue Sofa" (Tito Larriva)
 * 8) "Touch For Cash" (Tito Larriva)
 * 9) "Gas Line" (Tito Larriva)
 * 10) "Cesar's Song" (Tito Larriva)
 * 11) "Shifting Heart" (Tito Larriva)
 * 12) "No Love" (Tito Larriva)

In popular culture

 * The Plugz' song Adolescent was used in the film Scarred (1984).

 * The Plugz' song Electrify Me was used in the adult film New Wave Hookers (1985).

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William Barlow (geologist)

William Barlow FRS (8 August 1845 – 28 February 1934) was an English amateur geologist specialising in crystallography.

He was born in Islington, in London, England. His father became wealthy as a speculative builder as well as a building surveyor, allowing William to have a private education. After his father died in 1875, William and his brother inherited this fortune, allowing him to pursue his interest in crystallography without the need to labour for a living.

William examined the forms of crystalline structures and deduced that there were only 230 forms of symmetrical crystal arrangements, known as space groups. His results were published in 1894, after they had been independently announced by Evgraf Fedorov and Arthur Schönflies, although his approach did display some novelty. His structural models of simple compounds such as NaCl and CsCl were later confirmed using X-ray crystallography.

He served as the president of the English Mineralogical Society from 1915 until 1918.

He died in Great Stanmore, Middlesex, England.

Awards and honours

 * Fellow of the Royal Society, 1908.
 * The wrinkle ridge Dorsa Barlow on the Moon was named after him.
 * The mineral barlowite, Cu4FBr(OH)6, approved in 2010, was named in his honor.

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User:Mrbiggs1977

28-year-old application developer originally from Heworth, Gateshead, Tyne and Wear, now living and working in London.

 * A list of my contributions
 * My web site

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Battle of Vaslui/archive1

Battle of Vaslui
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We need more battles on Wiki. I think this article, for being a battle article, is cool. It involves many different parties and nations. The article seems to be rather complete, but I'm sure people can still improve it in certain areas. --Anittas 15:58, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Object. No references and no pictures. Johnleemk | Talk 16:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Can you highlight specific passages where wokr needs to be done?. Unsigned: user:Thethinredline

 * Like John said, we need more references, but to say that we have no references would be wrong. I will add those that I know of and I'll ask another dude to do the same. As for pictures; unfortunatelly, there aren't any pictures of the battle, that I know of, but I do know that pictures aren't required. I guess we could add the picture of some of the leaders. Would that be relevant? --Anittas 18:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Um, the current references are not formatted properly; please see WP:CITE. And yes, pictures of the leaders would be fine. Johnleemk | Talk 13:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * How are they supposed to be? --Anittas 21:27, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Cite sources/example style. Johnleemk | Talk 13:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Object due to lack of references. Direct citations are necessary at least for the size of the Ottoman army and its casualties (I see three different numbers given with no explanation of where they come from) and for the assertion that the "invasion was the worst ever defeat for the Ottomans at that time"; and some more English-language references would be helpful in general. Kirill Lokshin 21:43, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment. Agree with what others have said regarding references, though this shouldn't be too difficult to overcome as the article seems to cover the subject matter in sufficient depth (one web article I saw refers to this as the "Battle of the Buglers"). As far as images go, if there's not a nice painting of the Battle (as have been prepared for many other conflicts) something depicting the armies would be helpful; however, a map would be the most beneficial in terms of conveying information. Unfortunately, the City article for Vaslui is only a stub.--Lordkinbote 07:24, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm working on adding more references. Give me 4 days. As for pictures, I don't know where to find them. I have a drawing of the battle, from a book, from the communist times; the picture is not copyrighted (communist times). Is it allowed to add it? If not, we could just add photos of the leaders. Thanks for your contribution. --Anittas 14:51, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * If it has no copyright, it is in the public domain, so sure, go ahead! Johnleemk | Talk 15:32, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Object. I agree with Kirill. He and I read, write and edit A LOT of battle articles. This one is simply not yet up to the standards. There are some factual and wording problems, which I helped a bit to address in my edits (such as referring to the sipahis as light cavalry. They were actually heavy by Ottoman standards, but they often get confused in the west with the Timariots, who were the light horse, feudal levies). A map would most certainly be helpful. The author obviously has a great knowledge of the battle itself, but English is not their primary language. I would gladly help them with this. Towards these ends, I suggest it go to Peer Review for some more work, then be resubmitted.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 20:37, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * You're more than welcome to help out, Ghost. You don't need my permission. As for the rest, I still ask for about 4 days, so that I can add references, etc. --Anittas 20:41, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment Here's an example of what I consider a very well done battle article, worthy of FA support: Battle of Nicopolis--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 18:58, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment I think that the red links should be addressed. Also, any political implications of the battle? InvictaHOG 00:05, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm going to write a stub on Grigore, soon, if no one else is doing it. No problem there. I'm not sure what you mean when saying "political implications". I thought everything was described in the background section. Btw., is that you who made the map for the battle of nicopolis? If so, can you do the same for this article? Thanks. Be back later. --Anittas 00:49, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Support OmegaWikipedia 12:49, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Addentum: Okay, I've added new references and two pictures of the leaders. The article seems a bit messy, now. There are many red links, now. That's because the historians that I've used in my references, are not well-known. Should I un-link their names? Other than that, I don't think I can do much more. I've looked at other battle articles and they don't have that many references; probably because no-one forced them cite everything they said. I also added new information. If anyone can help, please do. I don't think the article has a chance to be nomindated. I checked on the Battle of Kadesh. If that article was not featured, then my article has no chance. I think this sucks. Most featured articles are dull. They're about train companies and stuff; and just recently someone nominated an article for chicken soup. Bad timing, dude! --Anittas 19:04, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


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History of SS Juve Stabia

The history of Società Sportiva Juve Stabia officially started in 2002, following the bankruptcy in 2001 of S.S. Juventus Stabia, based in Castellammare di Stabia, Campania. The first incarnation of the club was founded in 1907 as Stabia Sporting Club and was refounded in 1933 as F.C. Stabiese. Since 1953 Juventus Stabia, the second club of the city is become the main team; in 2002 the new company after the bankruptcy of the year before has acquired the sports title of Comprensorio Nola.

Currently, Juve Stabia plays in Serie B where it has already played in the 1951–52 season as A.C. Stabia.

The nickname of the team is Le vespe (The Wasps).

From Stabia S.C. to F.C. Stabiese
On 19 March 1907 Weiss, the Romano brothers and Pauzano, founded the club Stabia Sporting Club. Originally it was a sporting club that participated in fencing, cycling, running, swimming and rowing.

By 1911, the footballing section of the club first started activity. The first officially reported game took place on 12 February 1911 against a team from Torre Annunziata, which is around four miles away. The match itself took place on the field of "le Montagnelle" near Boscotrecase, it finished 3–0 to Stabia. This was reported in the Neapolitan daily paper "Il Mattino".

Stabia played local games at this point, a notable 0–0 draw was achieved against the more famous Naples on 1 February 1914, the squad that day included; Dell’Aquila, Schettino, Celoro, De Rosa, Laugeri (captain), Amato, Weiss, Pauzano, Romano I°, Romano II° and Cappa. Around this period Stabia also played a match against the crew of English ship HMS Black Prince, with the English winning 11–1.

Stabia enters the league
During 1916, Stabia entered into league competitions for the first time. They were entered into the old Terza Category (today's equivalent is Serie C), Stabia reached the semi-finals before losing 5–1 to Campanian rivals Savoia. Play was halted for World War I, but after it in 1919 the club was refounded thanks largely to Vincenzo Bonifacio. The first game after refounding was a friendly against a team of English sailors who called themselves War Lion, Stabia were victorious, winning the game 6–0. In Castellammare di Stabia a club was founded during August 1919, called Sport Club War, this was merged with Stabia S.C. by 1920.

Stabia were entered into the Prima Categoria Campania, here they competed against the top clubs from the Campania region. The club finished 6th out of seven clubs, the most memorable result of which was a 4–0 victory away against Salernitana. They returned the following season in 1922–23, where the Campania section was down to five teams; they finished 3rd in their region, behind Savoia and Internaples, thus meaning they did not go any further in the competition that season.

Around this period Scarselli, Coppola and Pausano obtained the land for Stabia where the Stadio Romeo Menti would much later be built. After playing at the top level of the Italian Championship, they spent some time in the Seconda Categoria and then in 1929 they dropped down to the third level of Italian football.

The club in 1930 was renamed F.C. Stabiese and in 1933 it has declared bankrupt.

On 1933 A.C. Stabia
Stabia was refounded as A.C. Stabia by Salvatore Russo in 1933.

The 1936–37 season was a successful one for the club, they went through the season undefeated and won the Prima Divisione, the Coppa di Natale and the Direttoriwhich waso Regionale; the latter achieved with a 5–1 victory over Casertana. Around this period, Stabia joined the organization Ludi Fascisti Stabiesi, the president was Amilcare Sciarretta, a civil employee of the Banca d'Italia.

In the 1951–52 season it played in Serie B.

In 1953 it was declared bankrupt.

S.S. Juventus Stabia, a new main team
In 1953 the second club of the town Società Sportiva Juventus Stabia, founded in 1945 becomes so the main team of Castellamare di Stabia and inherits the sporting tradition of the former club.

The Juventus part of the name is taken from the famous Turin club Juventus, who were particularly successful during the early part of the 1930s; the word is Latin for youth.

In 1996 the club was renamed AC Juve Stabia.

The club was declared bankrupt in 2001.

From Comprensorio Stabia to S.S. Juve Stabia
On 2002 the club was refounded as Comprensorio Stabia renamed in 2003 with the current name. It was promoted to Serie C2 and in Serie C1.

On 2008 the football club passes into the hands of Francesco Giglio and Franco Manniello. They bring in three years the Juve Stabia playing in Serie B after 59 years, and also to win the Coppa Italia Lega Pro, 2010–11 edition.

In 2011–12 Juve Stabia is ranked in 9th place of the Serie B, thanks to the excellent performance of Sau, Cazzola, Erpen and many others. It is saved the following year with the 16th place of the Serie B.

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Republican Citizens Committee Against National Prohibition

The Republican Citizens Committee Against National Prohibition was established shortly before the 1932 Republican National Convention to pressure the party to support the repeal of prohibition. Key members included Joseph H. Choate, Jr., Henry Bourne Joy, Thomas W. Phillips, Raymond Pitcairn, and Lammot du Pont.


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User:ComaDivine

Hello WikiUniverse! My name is Dave, and I'm a recent arrival here.

Recent meddlings

 * Devin Townsend
 * List of wars and disasters by death toll
 * List of disasters
 * List of deadliest natural disasters
 * Mars
 * Strapping Young Lad
 * The New Black
 * The Hummer
 * Sverdlovsk anthrax leak
 * Teleportation
 * Unidentified flying object
 * Syriana
 * Iranian Air Force in Iran-Iraq war

...a work in progress...

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Pedalfer

Pedalfer is composed of aluminum and iron oxides. It is a subdivision of the zonal soil order comprising a large group of soils in which sesquioxides increase relative to silica during soil formation. Pedalfers usually occur in humid areas. It is not used in the current United States system of soil classification but the term commonly shows up in college geology texts.

Pedalfers have three subdivisions of which one is Lateritic soils.

Pedalfer is a formative element in the United States soil taxonomic system for the Alfisols soil order. Alf is the formative element in the Alfisol name, and refers to aluminium (Al) and iron (Fe).

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David H. Goodell

David Harvey Goodell (May 6, 1834 – January 22, 1915) was an American inventor, manufacturer, and Republican politician from Antrim, New Hampshire.

Goodell was the son of Jesse Raymond Goodell (1807–1886) and Olive Atwood (Wright) Goodell (1807–1877).

Family life
Goodell married Hannah Jane Plummer (1835–1911) of Goffstown, New Hampshire on September 1, 1857. They had two sons Dura Dana Goodell (1858–1936) and Richard Carter Goodell (1868–1942).

Business career
In 1875 Goodell began and operated the Goodell company in Antrim. His company made knives and a collection of various cutting devices including apple peelers. His company was the largest employer with several mills spanning Great Brook.

Political career
From 1876 to 1878 Goodell represented Antrim in the New Hampshire House of Representatives, and was member of the Governor's Council in 1882. In November 1888 he was elected as the Governor.

Goodell died in 1915 in Antrim.

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The Desert Rose Band

The Desert Rose Band was an American country rock band from Los Angeles, California, founded in 1985 by Chris Hillman (formerly of the Byrds and the Flying Burrito Brothers), with Herb Pedersen and John Jorgenson. The original lineup included Bill Bryson on bass guitar, JayDee Maness on pedal steel guitar, and Steve Duncan on drums. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, the band charted several hit singles on the US Billboard Hot Country Singles & Tracks charts until disbanding in February 1994.

Formation
The Desert Rose Band was formed in 1985 by frontman Chris Hillman (born December 4, 1944), formerly a member of The Byrds, and co-founder, along with the late Gram Parsons of the country-rock band The Flying Burrito Brothers. Additional members included John Jorgenson (born July 6, 1956), who was mainly responsible for the instrumental arrangements of the songs, and Herb Pedersen (born April 27, 1944), responsible for the vocal arrangements. Jorgenson and Pedersen sang three-part harmony with Hillman. Each Desert Rose Band album featured Pedersen on one lead vocal. Pedal steel player JayDee Maness (born January 4, 1945), drummer Steve Duncan (born July 28, 1953), and bassist Bill Bryson (1946–2017) rounded out the group.

1987-1989: The Desert Rose Band and Running
Their eponymous debut album was issued in 1987 on MCA/Curb. It contained their first hit "Ashes of Love", which was originally a Johnnie & Jack song from the early 1950s. It was the second time Hillman and Pedersen recorded "Ashes of Love," the first being on Hillman's just prior album Desert Rose on the Sugar Hill label. The Desert Rose Band's debut also featured a remake of Chris Hillman's "Time Between" which he previously wrote and recorded as a member of the Byrds, as well as the band's first chart-topper "He's Back and I'm Blue".

Their second album Running (1988) featured the John Hiatt-penned hit "She Don't Love Nobody", "Running", and a remake of Buck Owens's "Hello Trouble".

1990-1993: Pages of Life, True Love and Life Goes On
The third album Pages of Life (1990) featured a remake of "Desert Rose" as well as a remake of Pedersen's folk song about his daughter "Our Baby's Gone" which was originally recorded on his 1976 album Southwest. JayDee Maness left the band in 1990 and was replaced on pedal steel guitar by Tom Brumley whom Jay Dee replaced in the Buckaroos. Maness would again play with Chris Hillman and Herb Pedersen on their post Desert Rose Band duo albums Bakersfield Bound and Way Out West.

The fourth studio album, True Love, was released in 1991. It was followed by 1993's Life Goes On, released only in Europe. Several prominent country and bluegrass musicians made guest appearances on Life Goes On including Sam Bush on fiddle, Tony Rice and Larry Park (of Boy Howdy) on guitar, and Al Perkins on dobro. Before the release of this final studio album, was the 1993 compilation Traditional.

John Jorgenson and Steve Duncan left the band in 1991. Jorgenson went on to form the Hellecasters with Will Ray and Jerry Donahue; Duncan also joined the Hellecasters. John Jorgenson is currently playing gypsy jazz with his John Jorgenson Quintette. Chris and Herb recorded an acoustic album called The Other Side in 2005. They continue to tour as an acoustic duo. Former Buck Owens steel player Tom Brumley played with Joey Riley's band in Branson, Missouri. He died on February 3, 2009.

Awards
The Desert Rose Band was nominated for two Grammy Awards, in the category Best Country Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal: the debut album The Desert Rose Band (1987), and the single "She Don't Love Nobody" (1989).

The band was a three-time winner of the Band of the Year/Touring Award presented by the Academy of Country Music Association, in 1988, 1989, and 1990.

The band earned the Country Music Association's "Horizon Award" in 1989, and was nominated Vocal Group of the Year in 1989 and 1990.

Broadcast Music Inc., recognized "One Step Forward" and "Love Reunited" for having achieved the benchmark of One Million Broadcast Radio Performances.

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Frau Holle

"Frau Holle" (also known as "Mother Holle", "Mother Hulda" or "Old Mother Frost") is a German fairy tale collected by the Brothers Grimm in Children's and Household Tales in 1812 (KHM 24). It is of Aarne-Thompson type 480.

Frau Holle (also known in various regions as Holla, Holda, Perchta, Berchta, Berta, or Bertha) was initially a pre-Christian female legendary figure who survived in popular belief well into the 19th century.

The name may be cognate of the Scandinavian creature known as the Hulder. Jacob Grimm made an attempt to establish her as a Germanic goddess.

Etymology
The name is thought to originate from German huld ("gracious, friendly, sympathetic, grateful" found in hold sein, huldigen), Middle High German hulde, Old High German huldī ("friendliness"). Cognate with Danish and Swedish huld ("fair, kindly, gracious") or 'hyld' ("secret, hidden"), Icelandic hollur ("faithful, dedicated, loyal"), Middle English hold, holde, Old English hold ("gracious, friendly, kind, favorable, true, faithful, loyal, devout, acceptable, pleasant"), from Proto-Germanic hulþaz ("favourable, gracious, loyal"), from Proto-Indo-European *kel- ("to tend, incline, bend, tip").

The name Hludana is found in five Latin inscriptions: three from the lower Rhine (Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum XIII 8611, 8723, 8661), one from Münstereifel and one from Beetgum, Frisia  all dating from 197 AD-235 AD. Many attempts have been made to interpret this name.

Origins and attestations
As Christianity slowly replaced Germanic paganism during the Early Middle Ages, many of the old customs were gradually lost or assimilated into Christian tradition. By the end of the High Middle Ages, Germanic paganism was almost completely marginalized and blended into rural folklore, in which the character of Frau Hulda eventually survived.

In Germanic pre-Christian folklore, Hulda, Holda, Holle, and Holla were all names to denote a single being. Hulda is also related to the Germanic figure of Perchta. She dwells at the bottom of a well, rides a wagon, and first taught the craft of making linen from flax. According to Erika Timm, Perchta emerged from an amalgamation of Germanic and pre-Germanic, probably Celtic, traditions of the Alpine regions after the Migration Period in the Early Middle Ages.

Holle is the goddess to whom children who died as infants go, and alternatively known as both the Dunkle Großmutter (Dark Grandmother) and the Weisse Frau (White Lady), elements which are more typically associated with the Grimms' fairy tale as well.

Frau Holle's festival is in the middle of winter, the time when humans retreat indoors from the cold. It may be of significance that the Twelve Days of Christmas were originally the Zwölften ("the Twelve"), which like the same period in the Celtic calendar were an intercalary period during which the dead were thought to roam abroad.

Holda's connection to the spirit world through the magic of spinning and weaving has associated her with witchcraft in Catholic German folklore. She was considered to ride with witches on distaffs, which closely resemble the brooms that witches are thought to ride. Likewise, Holda was often identified with Diana in old church documents. As early as the beginning of the 11th century she appears to have been known as the leader of women, and of female nocturnal spirits, which "in common parlance are called Hulden from Holda". These women would leave their houses in spirit, going "out through closed doors in the silence of the night, leaving their sleeping husbands behind". They would travel vast distances through the sky, to great feasts, or to battles amongst the clouds.

The 9th century Canon Episcopi censures women who claim to have ridden with a "crowd of demons". Burchard's later recension of the same text expands on this in a section titled "De arte magica":

"Have you believed there is some female, whom the stupid vulgar call Holda [in manuscript Cod. Vat. 4772, strigam Holdam, the witch Holda], who is able to do a certain thing, such that those deceived by the devil affirm themselves by necessity and by command to be required to do, that is, with a crowd of demons transformed into the likeness of women, on fixed nights to be required to ride upon certain beasts, and to themselves be numbered in their company? If you have performed participation in this unbelief, you are required to do penance for one year on designated fast-days."

Later canonical and church documents make her synonymous with Diana, Herodias, Bertha, Richella, and Abundia. Ginzburg has identified similar beliefs existing throughout Europe for over 1,000 years, whereby men and women were thought to leave their bodies in spirit and follow a goddess variously called Holda, Diana, Herodias, Signora Oriente, Richella, Arada, and Perchta. He also identifies strong morphological similarities with the earlier goddesses Hecate / Artemis, Artio, the Matres of Engyon, the Matronae, and Epona, as well as figures from fairy-tales, such as Cinderella.

A 16th century fable recorded by Erasmus Alberus speaks of "an army of women" with sickles in hand sent by Frau Hulda. Thomas Reinesius in the 17th century speaks of Werra of the Voigtland and her "crowd of maenads."

Frau Holle figures in some pre-Christian Alpine traditions that have survived to modern times. During the Christmas period in the alpine regions of Germany, Austria and northern Switzerland, wild masked processions are still held in a number of towns, impersonating Holda, Perchta, or related beings, and the wild hunt. Vivid visual descriptions of her may allude to a popular costumed portrayal, perhaps as part of a seasonal festival or holiday drama.

"Here cometh up Dame Hulde with the snout, to wit, nature, and goeth about to gainstay her God and give him the lie, hangeth her old ragfair about her, the straw-harness; then falls to work and scrapes it featly on her fiddle. — M. Luther (1522)"

Grimm based his theory of Holda on what he took to be the earliest references to her: An 11th century interpolation to the Canon Episcopi by Burchard of Worms, and pre-Christian Roman inscriptions to Hludana that he tentatively linked to the same divinity. There were early challenges to connecting this figure with a pagan goddess, since her earliest definite appearance links her with the Virgin Mary, commonly called the "Queen of Heaven": An early-13th-century text listing superstitions states that "In the night of Christ's Nativity they set the table for the Queen of Heaven, whom the people call Frau Holda, that she might help them". Lotte Motz and Ginzburg both conclude that she is pre-Christian in origin, based on comparison with other remarkably similar figures and ritual observances spread throughout Europe.

A pagan Holda received wide distribution in catalogs of superstitions and in sermons during the 15th century, and in the 16th, Martin Luther employed the image to personify the shortcomings of hostile Reason in theological contexts.

Frau Gauden
Frau Gauden, also known as Frau Gode, Frau Gaur, Fru Goden, Frau Wohl, and Mutter Gauerken, is a being from the folklore of Mecklenburg. She is said to be cursed because she expressed to prefer eternally hunt rather than go to Heaven, and her daughters, who expressed the same desire, were transformed into small dogs who either pull her wagon or sled, or serve as hunting dogs. She visits the homes of humans during the Twelve Nights of Christmas and punishes the lazy while sometimes rewarding the virtuous or those who help her.

Perchta
The Grimms say Perchta or Berchta was known "precisely in those Upper German regions where Holda leaves off, in Swabia, in Alsace, in Switzerland, in Bavaria and Austria." According to Jacob Grimm (1882), Perchta was spoken of in Old High German in the 10th century as Frau Berchta and thought to be a white-robed female spirit. She was known as a goddess who oversaw spinning and weaving, like myths of Holda in Continental German regions. He believes she was the feminine equivalent of Berchtold, and she was sometimes the leader of the wild hunt.

According to Erika Timm, Perchta emerged from an amalgamation of Germanic and pre-Germanic, probably Celtic, traditions of the Alpine regions after the Migration Period in the Early Middle Ages.

Spillaholle
The Spillaholle (Silesian German also Spillahulle, Spillahole, Spillahôle, Spiellahole; Standard German: Spindelholle; English translation: "spindle Holle") is a legendary creature exclusively found in German folklore of formerly German Silesia including Austrian Silesia. A similar being is found in folktales of formerly German-speaking Bohemia. The Spillaholle is a Silesian variant of female German legendary creatures such as Hulda (Frau Holle) or Perchta. In Bohemia, she is simply known as Frau Holle ("Mrs. Holle"). Other Silesian names are Satzemsuse, Mickadrulle, and Mickatrulle.

The Spindelholle is a sallow old woman with short arms and legs, sometimes directly called a hag. She appears hooded (characterized by the name Popelhole or Popelhôle; Standard German: Popelholle; English translation: "hooded Holle" ) or wearing ragged clothing (as shown by the name variant Zumpeldrulle or Zompeldroll). She also can be seen in old Franconian dress or generally shaped as a pelt sleeve. The Bohemian Frau Holle is a small and ugly old woman which carries a batch of stinging nettles.

The main activity of the Spillaholle is connected with spinning, for she is the overseer of spinning taboos and a bogey used for spinning children. Therefore, a broad variety of names for the Spillaholle shows connection to spindles, such as Spilladrulle, Spillagritte, Spillmarthe, Spillalutsche or Spellalutsche.

The appearance of the Spillaholle is mainly during the winter months, especially during Advent, Christmas or during the Zwölften (twelve nights of Christmas). She goes from house to house to see if the children and spinsters are spinning diligently, looking through the windows or even all gaps in the house wall. When they are still spinning during evening and night, then there will be slight or even severe punishments.

When spinsters are not finished with their spinning, then the Satzemsuse will sit in their lap during spinning or even give them igneous spindles instead of normal ones. The Spillaholle takes the lazy spinsters away. Frau Holle beats them with a batch of stinging nettles. If all the tow is already spun, then there will not only be no punishment, even one of the nettles will be left in the house to ward the house of misfortune for the whole coming year. Additionally, in Bohemia all spinning is banned on the night of St. Thomas. If a spinster is working anyway, she will be punished by Frau Holle.

To children spinning in the night the Spindelholle says: "Verzage nicht, verzage nicht, warum spinnst du die Zahl am Tage nicht?" (Do not quail, do not quail, why do you not spin the number at day?) Then she kills the children or takes them away. That this will not happen the children will be warned by their parents when at evening the wind is howling in the stove: "Die Spillagritte kommt!" (The Spillagritte comes!), or they will have to listen to the following rhyme:

The Spillaholle also scares people to death or walks abroad at forest tracks. A less malicious activity of her is the causation of snow, just like it is known from the standard Frau Holle as well. When the Spillaholle shakes her bed, then it will snow.

The Spindelholle's home lies beneath a rock in the woods, known as the Spillalutschenstein ("Spillalutsche's stone"). At night, seven lights can be seen above the Spillalutschenstein. Normally, the Spillaholle appears solitarily, but as Popelhole, she is wed to the Popelmann, a German Silesian Bogeyman. As Satzemsuse she has companions which are the Satzemkater (Kater = tomcat), the Satzemziege (Ziege = goat) and the Rilpen, a collectivity of wood sprites. The Bohemian Frau Holle is accompanied by small deformed wights which she orders to beat outrageous spinsters with rods.

Background
The tale was published by the Brothers Grimm in the first edition of Kinder- und Hausmärchen, published in 1812. Their source was Wilhelm Grimm's friend and future wife Dortchen Wild. Some details were added in the second edition (1819), most notably rooster's greetings, based upon the account of Georg August Friedrich Goldmann from Hanover.

It is still a common expression in Hesse, Southern parts of the Netherlands and beyond to say "Hulda is making her bed" when it is snowing, that is, she shakes her bed and out comes snow from heaven. Like many other tales collected by the Brothers Grimm, the story of Frau Holle was told to teach a moral. In this case, it is that hard work is rewarded and laziness is punished.

Synopsis
A rich widow lived with her daughter and her stepdaughter. The widow favored her younger biological daughter, allowing her to become spoiled and idle while her older stepdaughter was left to do all the work. Every day, the stepdaughter would sit outside the cottage and spin beside the well.

One day, she pricked her finger on the point of the spindle. As she leaned over the well to wash the blood away, the spindle fell from her hand and sank out of sight. The stepdaughter feared that she would be punished for losing the spindle, and in panic she leapt into the well after it.

The girl found herself in a meadow, where she came upon an oven full of bread. The bread asked to be taken out before it burned. With a baker's peel, she took all the loaves out and then walked on. Then she came to an apple tree that asked that its apples be harvested. So she did so and gathered them into a pile before continuing on her way. Finally, she came to a small house of an old woman, who offered to allow the girl to stay if she would help with the housework.

The woman identified herself as Frau Holle, and cautioned the girl to shake the featherbed pillows and coverlet well when she made the bed, as that would make it snow in the girl's world. The girl agreed to take service with Frau Holle, and took care to always shake the featherbed until the feathers flew about like snowflakes.

After a time, the girl became homesick and told Frau Holle that it was time for her to return home. Frau Holle had been impressed by the girl's kindness and hard work so much that, when she escorted the girl to the gate, a shower of gold fell upon the girl. She also gave her the spindle which had fallen into the well. With that, the gate was closed and the girl found herself back not far from her house.

Her mother wished the same good fortune for her biological daughter. She also set her to sit by the well and spin, but the girl deliberately threw the spindle into the well before jumping in herself. She too came to the oven, but would not assist the bread nor would she help the apple tree. When she came to Frau Holle's house, she likewise took service there. She then fell into her lazy careless ways. Frau Holle soon dismissed her. As the lazy girl stood at the gate, a kettle of pitch spilled over her. "That is what you have earned" said Frau Holle and closed the gate.

Other versions describe the first girl having a piece of gold fall from her lips every time she speaks, whilst the second has a toad fall from her lips every time she speaks, as depicted in Diamonds and Toads.

Analysis
Like many of the other tales collected by the Grimm brothers, "Frau Holle" personifies good behavior and bad, and the appropriate reward meted out for each. Even so, it also exhibits a number of contrasts with other stories. Typically, the magical beings who appear in the tales must enter the real world and appear to the protagonists before any intercession can take place. Moreover, these beings are almost always anonymous and therefore difficult to correlate with figures in pre-Christian mythology. By contrast, Frau Holle resides somewhere above the Earth, and the protagonists must go to her, paradoxically by diving into a spring. When she makes her bed, loose feathers are 'stirred up' and fall to earth as snow, and so this fairy tale is an origin myth as well. Comparison between Frau Holle and a weather or earth goddess is inevitable. Jakob Grimm notes that Thunar (Thor) makes rain in a similar fashion, implying for Frau Holle a very high rank in the pantheon.

Though not unique in this respect, the Frau Holle story is also notable for the absence of class-related motifs such as palaces, halls to which one may or may not be invited, and the rise to the status of the nobility through marriage.

According to the Aarne and Thompson classification system of fairy tales, Mother Hulda is a story of type 480, The Kind and the Unkind Girls. Others of this type include Shita-kiri Suzume, Diamonds and Toads, The Three Heads in the Well, Father Frost, The Three Little Men in the Wood, The Enchanted Wreath, The Old Witch, and The Two Caskets. Literary variants include The Three Fairies and Aurore and Aimée.

Film adaptations
The 2023 film Wonderwell takes elements from the story.
 * Mother Holly (1906), Germany
 * Frau Holle (1953), East Germany
 * Mother Holly (1954), West Germany
 * Mother Holly (1961), West Germany
 * Mother Holly (1963), East Germany
 * Once Upon a Time (1973), West Germany
 * The Feather Fairy (1985), Czechoslovakia
 * Frau Holle (2008), Germany
 * Gretel & Hansel (2020)

Literature

 * Hartman, Jennifer (2021). Frau Holle (Old Mother Frost); From the English version Old Mother Frost (2020); Available online by Pagan Kids Publishing. ISBN 978-1777306717)
 * Grimm, Jacob (1835). Deutsche Mythologie (German Mythology); From English released version Grimm's Teutonic Mythology (1888); Available online by Northvegr 2004-2007. Chapter 13:4 Holda, Holle. Dead link
 * Marzell: Spillaholle. In: Hanns Bächtold-Stäubli, Eduard Hoffmann-Krayer: Handwörterbuch des Deutschen Aberglaubens: Band 8 Silber-Vulkan. Berlin 1937. (reprint: Walter de Gruyter, Berlin/New York 2000, ISBN 978-3-11-016860-0)
 * (reprint: Eugen Diederichs Verlag, Munich 1993, ISBN 3-424-00986-5)
 * Richard Kühnau: Sagen aus Schlesien. Berlin 1914. (reprint: Salzwasser Verlag, Paderborn 2011, ISBN 978-3-8460-0190-5)
 * Josef Virgil Grohmann: Sagen-Buch von Böhmen und Mähren. Prague 1863. (reprint: Holzinger, Berlin 2013, ISBN 978-1-4849-7919-8)
 * Richard Beitl: Untersuchungen zur Mythologie des Kindes: herausgegeben von Bernd Rieken und Michael Simon. Partially approved: Berlin, University, habilitation treatise R. Beitl, 1933, Waxmann Verlag, Münster/New York/Munich/Berlin 2007, ISBN 978-3-8309-1809-7.

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Gjon Mili

Gjon Mili (November 28, 1904 – February 14, 1984) was an Albanian photographer from Korçë who developed his profession in America, best known for his work published in Life, in which he photographed artists such as Pablo Picasso.

Biography
Gjon Mili was born to Vasil Mili and Viktori Cekani in Korçë, in the Manastir Vilayet of the Ottoman Empire (present-day Albania). Mili spent his childhood in Romania, attending Gheorghe Lazăr National College in Bucharest, and migrating to the United States in 1923. In 1939, Mili started to work as a photographer for Life (a position he held until he died in 1984). Over the years his assignments took him to the Riviera (Picasso); to Prades, France (Pau Casals in exile); to Israel (Adolf Eichmann in captivity); to Florence, Athens, Dublin, Berlin, Venice, Rome, and to Hollywood to photograph celebrities and artists, sports events, concerts, sculptures and architecture.

Working with Harold Eugene Edgerton of MIT, Gjon Mili was a pioneer in the use of stroboscopic instruments to capture a sequence of actions in one photograph. Trained as an engineer and self-taught in photography, Gjon Mili was one of the first to use electronic flash and stroboscopic light to create photographs that had more than scientific interest. Many of his images revealed the intricacy and flow of movement too rapid or complex for the naked eye to discern. In the mid-1940s, he was an assistant to the photographer Edward Weston.

In 1944, he directed the short film Jammin' the Blues, which was made at Warner Bros., and features performances by Lester Young, Red Callender, Harry Edison, "Big" Sid Catlett, Illinois Jacquet, Barney Kessel, Jo Jones and Marie Bryant. Mili did not serve as cinematographer for the film (Robert Burks did) but the film used multiplied images that in many ways recall the multi-image still-frames done with the strobe. The imaginative use of the camera makes this film a minor landmark in the way that musicians have been filmed.

Over the course of more than four decades, thousands of his pictures were published by Life as well as other publications.

Mili died of pneumonia in Stamford, Connecticut, at the age of 79.

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'mulatto' and 'black'
The terms 'mulatto' and 'black' are both considered offensive by some. 'Mulatto' is derived from a Spanish word for 'mule' and originated as a 'pedigree' term amongst slave-traders. 'Black' has sometimes been assigned negative connotations and is objected to by some of those it is applied to. That said, both are also sometimes used without offense being taken. Why not use 'African American' since it's the term currently accepted as 'non-offensive' and the man actually is an American of (partially) African ancestry? --CBD ✉ 13:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Despite his light skin and eyes, both of Ealy's parents are African Americans (both of his parents have browner skin than he). Ealy is not a mulatto, and should not be addressed as being such. --FuriousFreddy 18:17, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Well because he has blue eyes, he obviously has some european ancestors. Pindle
 * That's a misconception. There's such a thing called "variation" within every population. One doesn't need to be of European ancestry to have blue eyes; for example, Aborigines commonly are born with blond hair. You shouldn't so quick to assume.

The average black American has 20% European ancestry.

U guys can be such idiots sometimes, esp. the first two guys, the first one being gay. I can tell. Also African-american is not a real term since everybody is an african amaerican considering thats where the first human was found.70.185.125.101 00:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not African American - I'm not American. 'Black' in the standard term used in the UK, or perhaps Black British, certainly not Black Britain. Any term used for a group of people based on skin color is going to be considered offensive eventually, thats why we continually have to change what is PC as each term becomes less acceptable to those who are being grouped together. Either way, thats its irrelevant here. EAi 00:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Nominated for a Golden Globe
Hello. Michael Ealy was nominated for his role in Sleeper Cell for a Golden Globe in the "BEST PERFORMANCE BY AN ACTOR IN A MINI-SERIES OR MOTION PICTURE MADE FOR TELEVISION" category. Congratulations.

High School Alma Mater
Does anyone know if Micheal graduated from Springbrook High School in Silver Spring MD? --Weiserma (talk) 02:45, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

His son
Michael Ealy has shared his son's name. It is sourced from radio and tv and print articles. I see no reason that it cannot be included. Kids names are in articles Sara Gilbert Madonna  Meryl Streep and more. NO reason this article is different. 173.66.63.102 (talk) 06:19, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * For one reason, WP:CONSENSUS has thus far been against the addition in this content dispute, with multiple editors reverting you. For another, you were already warned about WP:3RR.
 * As to the content, WP:BLPNAME does apply. Regardless of other article contents, editorial discretion is applied on a case-by-case basis - and there appears to be no consensus as yet that the information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject; and names of family members who are not also notable public figures will add very little if anything to an encyclopedic understanding of the subject in this article. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:23, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Exactly as Barek has noted above and as I have explained on your talk page.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:42, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello again. I am here asking for the link to where the consensus was against his son's name being included in his biography. The wpblp says it may be included, so why not include it? Is it for Michael specifically and only that you do not want his son to be named here? Or all of the encyclopedia? I can give many examples of children on their parents article page. Is there a minimum age for the name to be included ? I ask because someone wrote that I was crazy/stupid for wanting a 2 yr old to be included here. Kristen Cavallari gave birth on already that child, a girl named  is in her biography. 173.66.63.102 (talk) 03:44, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I and others have already explained this to you - however I will repeat it here so as to place it on this centralized discussion rather than on our user talk pages.
 * WP:BLPNAME is specifically phrased to state names of non-notable close family members "may" be included when sourced - it doesn't say they "must" nor even "should". It also specifically states "subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject" - so even when sourced, community consensus still holds sway on the material being appropriate to add into the article.
 * As to consensus, you appear to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how it works. You should read WP:CONSENSUS to see how it works on Wikipedia.
 * As both JamesBWatson and myself explained on your talk page and as explained at WP:CONSENSUS, consensus can be established either through discussion, or through edits. As you said, all other editors had reverted your addition (7 different established editors have reverted your 8 attempts to add it) - that itself establishes the consensus through the edits. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 04:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello, yes it does say may. So why not include it? I am for it, you are against it. How do we get consensus?173.66.63.102 (talk) 02:54, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * We have consensus. Seven established editors have reverted your attempt to add variations of the content. By the way, BLPNAME applies to all pages, not just the article. Restore the name to this talk page one more time, and you will be blocked for continued disruption. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 03:29, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

That is not consensus. You have not given a reason for it to not be included. We have a differnece of opion. First you said it had to be sourced. I gave a source. Next you said it had to be a legit source. I gave that. You atill were against it. I gave other examples, you said too bad. The 7 established editors are just 7, what do the senior people think, those who set policy? As I gave examples of articles with kids names and birthdays that are accepted so obviously there are others who do accept that information. You told me to read wpblp. I did. The info is sourced and factual and neccesary for the article to be a full representation of the article subject. Still waiting for that link. 173.66.63.102 (talk) 04:27, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * You continue to have a fundamental misunderstanding of WP:CONSENSUS. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 04:35, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Allow me to add to the consensus per WP:DOB and WP:BLPNAME. And then there's WP:COMMONSENSE.  -- WV ● ✉ ✓  04:54, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

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The "Early" name's origin?
Where does it come from? 2600:1700:C020:AA50:BDA2:6635:15CE:1D2B (talk) 20:33, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Ealy?
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The result of the debate was Merge to Legends of the Hidden Temple. Article text copied to Talk page of merged article. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 22:50, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

List of Legends of the Hidden Temple episodes
Cruft which, IMO, doesn't deserve its own article. Delete CLW 16:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Merge with Legends of the Hidden Temple. That seems to be the msot sensible thing to do. Keresaspa 16:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Merge with Legends of the Hidden Temple, although it is a direct copy of, I think that a subpage or section of the Legends article would do nicely. IanManka 18:30, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Burninate the copyvio with a rewrite, then merge per Keresaspa. --Jacquelyn Marie 03:05, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

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Turbine map

Each turbine in a gas turbine engine has an operating map. Complete maps are either based on turbine rig test results or are predicted by a special computer program. Alternatively, the map of a similar turbine can be suitably scaled.

Description
A turbine map shows lines of percent corrected speed (based on a reference value) plotted against the x-axis which is pressure ratio, but deltaH/T (roughly proportional to temperature drop across the unit/component entry temperature) is also often used. The y-axis is some measure of flow, usually non-dimensional flow or corrected flow, but not actual flow. Sometimes the axes of a turbine map are transposed, to be consistent with those of a compressor map. As in this case, a companion plot, showing the variation of isentropic (i.e. adiabatic) or polytropic efficiency, is often also included.

The turbine may be a transonic unit, where the throat Mach number reaches sonic conditions and the turbine becomes truly choked. Consequently, there is virtually no variation in flow between the corrected speed lines at high pressure ratios.

Most turbines however, are subsonic devices, the highest Mach number at the NGV throat being about 0.85. Under these conditions, there is a slight scatter in flow between the percent corrected speed lines in the 'choked' region of the map, where the flow for a given speed reaches a plateau.

Unlike a compressor or fan, surge or stall does not occur in a turbine. This is because the gas flows through the turbine in its natural direction, from high to low pressure. As a result, there is no surge line marked on a turbine map.

Working lines are difficult to see on a conventional turbine map because the speed lines bunch up. The map may be replotted, with the y-axis being the multiple of flow and corrected speed. This separates the speed lines, enabling working lines (and efficiency contours) to be cross-plotted and clearly seen.

Progressive unchoking of the expansion system
The following discussion relates to the expansion system of a 2 spool, high bypass ratio, unmixed, turbofan.

On the RHS is a typical primary (i.e. hot) nozzle map (or characteristic). Its appearance is similar to that of a turbine map, but it lacks any (rotational) speed lines. Note that at high flight speeds (ignoring the change in altitude), the hot nozzle is usually in, or close to, a choking condition. This is because the ram rise in the air intake factors-up the nozzle pressure ratio. At static (e.g. SLS) conditions there is no ram rise, so the nozzle tends to operate unchoked (LHS of plot).

The low pressure turbine 'sees' the variation in flow capacity of the primary nozzle. A falling nozzle flow capacity tends to reduce the LP turbine pressure ratio (and deltaH/T). As the left hand map shows, initially the reduction in LP turbine deltaH/T has little effect upon the entry flow of the unit. Eventually, however, the LP turbine unchokes, causing the flow capacity of the LP turbine to start to decrease.

As long as the LP turbine remains choked, there is no significant change in HP turbine pressure ratio (or deltaH/T) and flow. Once, however, the LP turbine unchokes, the HP turbine deltaH/T starts to decrease. Eventually the HP turbine unchokes, causing its flow capacity to start to fall. Ground Idle is often reached shortly after HPT unchoke.

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Talk:Tony Hawk's American Wasteland

Trivia
The section that shows the names reference to famous people is well bullcrap. Dappled Sage 03:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Soundtrack
The track list for OST (from a leaked copy):

01-senses_fail-institutionalized_(suicidal_tendencies).mp3 02-taking_back_sunday-suburban_home_-_i_like_food_(descendents).mp3 03-my_chemical_romance-astro_zombies_(misfits).mp3 04-emanuel-search_and_destroy_(the_stooges).mp3 05-saves_the_day-sonic_reducer_(dead_boys).mp3 06-dropkick_murphys-who_is_who_(adolescents).mp3 07-thrice-seeing_red-screaming_at_a_wall_(minor_threat).mp3 08-the_bled-house_of_suffering_(bad_brains).mp3 09-hot_snakes-time_to_escape_(government_issue).mp3 10-fall_out_boy-start_today_(gorilla_biscuits).mp3 11-alkaline_trio-wash_away_(t.s.o.l.).mp3 12-thursday-ever_fallen_in_love_(buzzcocks).mp3 13-from_autumn_to_ashes-lets_have_a_war_(fear).mp3 14-rise_against-fix_me_(black_flag).mp3 It may be useful.  Grue  16:09, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Plot
The plot is incredibly long. would someone that knows how it goes mind trimming it please?---djsiniestros (talk) 22:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Cheats?
Shouldn't the cheats be relocated? They do not belong in an encyclopedia article. Shouldn't they be at Wikibooks or at another location? Or should they just be deleted altogether? --G VOLTT 18:50, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * yes I agree. cheats do not belong here and they have been deleted---djsiniestros (talk) 22:37, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Levels
Most of the levels in the game are remakes of other levels in the THPS seiries. I think they should be added to the article

for example, casino was originally in THUG 2 Remix on the PSP and oil rig was originally a bonus level for THPS 3 on the Xbox

Thewonderwaffle 04:13, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree I'll add them---djsiniestros (talk) 21:58, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Launch title
"It was a launch title (of sorts) " Was just added. Was it a launch title or was it not? --Liface 21:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

 * It was a launch title, but only for Xbox 360. The rest of the systems that it was released for were already out at the time THAW came out. TVRJomar 01:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Iggy
This is random but is Iggy based on Iggy Pop, the singer? TVRJomar 23:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

 * The name probably comes from Iggy Pop, but the Iggy in this game looks absolutely nothing like Iggy Pop. --  the     GREAT     Gavini   20:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Special Edition
Do we know what's in this "Special Edition" Greatest Hits rerelease? Creid8 14:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Tony Hawk Games Wiki
Help is needed at the Tony Hawk Games Wiki, which can be found here. It is very lonely. There are only about 3 users on there. If anyone of you join, and have questions, please see this user page. --98.148.171.15 (talk) 00:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Stop removing the soundtrack
Some people keep removing the sound track (not just from this but the whole series). For no aparent reason at least explain why you are before you do it please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.162.217.46 (talk) 15:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree so I am restoring it right now, if nobody minds---djsinietro (talk) 08:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

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