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But please note Naming conventions when you're creating categories (I've been renaming the Pakistan categories that you've been creating), and remember when you add categories to pipe the article name to ensure that it appears correctly in the alphabetisied list (you'll see how other categories are formatted). when you see that you've made a mistake, and so create two categories (as with Category:Mosques of Lahore and Category:Mosques in Lahore), ask to have one delted by an admin (I'd be happy to do it for you) or at Categories for deletion. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 17:19, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Category:Pakistan freedom fighters
Hey, I'm seriously thinking about putting htis category up for deletion. Not only do I think it's named incorrectly (should be Pakistani) but I believe it's inherently POV. It could be argued over forever whom is a freedom fighter... because the flipside is terrorist, etc. Freedom fighter shows something about this issue. gren グレン 08:11, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Adding Tipu Sultan

If Indians can add Tipu Sultan to their freedom struggle... Pakistan has an equal claim I would imagine on the great man.

 * I am not sure what a proper name would be... it's inextricably linked to India's freedom... which makes it difficult because are Pakistani freedom fighters as you now put it only the ones fighting against India during the partition or those fighting the British. Not to mention if you count East Pakistan.  So... I think it gets sticky.  Maybe "Category:Leaders in Pakistani independence" or "Category:Figureheads of Pakistani independence".  If I were you I'd go and vote on the deletion of you category and ask what users think of a new category.  I'm not really an expert. gren グレン 08:32, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * That's better at least, maybe Leaders of Pakistani indepedence. Not sure why I put in above.  Who knows, you should probably ask some other, better users. gren グレン 17:36, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Muhammad Iqbal
By no stretch of the imagination was Iqbal a freedom fighter. What makes you think that he was? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 10:52, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * We don't need to have a category for everyhting. In this case, the notion you're appealing to is, I think, too vague and open to disagreement to be useful.  For example, recent work on his correspondence suggests that Iqbal actually advocated the creation of an Islamic Pakistan as part of an Indian federal state rather than as a separate nation. He thought that a separate Islamic nation was undesirable, as he held to the ideal of a world-wide Muslim community; nevertheless, he held that, at least in the short and medium terms, the only way for Indian Muslims to be able to live according to the tenets of Islam was in such a state. --Mel Etitis  ( Μελ Ετητης ) 12:23, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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Copyvios
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Shabbir Sharif
Why did you change the spelling of his name in the article (which is consistent bioth wioth the title and with the external link)? I assume that the image that you added was deleted later; if you up-load an image with correct copyright status, note that it should be in JPEG format. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 20:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

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Sorry
Sorry about putting the speedy delete tage on Pakistan earthquake relief - it was an empty article when i put that on - honest mistake. --AMorris (talk)  ●  (contribs)  06:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Pakistan earthquake relief
While your sentiments are admirable, Wikipedia is not really the place to post information on donating to relief efforts. For one thing, it would be easy for anyone to change that information to be inaccurate, or to benefit themselves. I suggest contributing to the Relief and aid section of 2005 Kashmir earthquake (checking links, adding or deleting links as appropriate, etc.) tregoweth  07:42, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Jinnah
Hello I have moved this page to Jinnah (film), please see Naming_conventions. Thanks Arniep 13:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Information for spasage : Jinnah spelt his name "Mahomed Ali Jinnah" ...  If you can visit Lincoln's Inn ... you can check it there. Also... you may want to look at this card Jinnah sent out to commemorate Hussain's martyrdom:

http://www.ya-hussain.com/int_col1/others/1942imgs/majin.htm

Redirects
Generally, an article whose entire content is "The Musik is 24 hour Urdu/English Music Channel" is more of a speedy delete. You categorized it under ARY Digital, that's where I sent it.

A few things: One, please add more content to your articles beyond a single sentence to avoid this sort of thing in the future. This doesn't even say if "The Musik" is a radio station, satellite service, Internet radio or podcast. Second, please don't come to my user page making absolute statements like you did. Finally, if this service, whatever it is, isn't a part of ARY Digital, why put a category link to it in the first place?

If you'd like some assistance in editing, I'm glad to help you. - Lucky 6.9 08:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Pakistani people
Why is this category being removed from everywhere ? Tintin Talk 12:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Because Pakistani People article list is getting crowded. See this, it is full of names. It is getting longer and longer. 12:56, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Okay. Thanks. Tintin Talk 13:03, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Rfa thanks

 * I appreciate your contribution to wikipedia. Spasage 05:13, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

About MQM
Spasage!

I've updated MQM article today. Whatever I corrected or added, is generally accepted view, and I give proper source of every major event (as you opined). Moreover, I did not touch Opposing views segment of the article, since all has right to express their views as per given rules.

I hope you would read the article properly before reverting the information. And also check over the people distorting the article.

User:M.Imran, 13:50 UTC, January 21, 2006

Bano Qudsia
You modified the article on this. Perhaps you misread the line,which said "Before his death in 2004, she was married to the author Ashfaque Ahmed." which relates to his death, not hers. If you have no issues with it, perhaps you could revert the change MNewnham 15:40, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Pakistani educators and educationists
AOA, Thanks for your new category. Actually, I also find a reason for "Pakistani educationists" category, becuase it distingues it from merely a list of teachers to people who have done something for the very art of education. --Shaaheen 06:51, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Is there any difference between educators and educationists? Educators educate, and educationist create and improve ways of learning. Please think of some way to merge these. And also Please when you delete or change some link make sure its active. You changed Syed Ata Ullah Shah Bukhari to Attaullah shah bukhari at Saeed Rashid page, try to use redirects --Falcon007 08:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

 * and when you change name first make sure that its the popular, or authantic name --Falcon007 08:11, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * -- I dont understand what you are trying to say. Please check first that who changed Syed Ata Ullah Shah Bukhari to Attaullah shah bukhari. I did not change. I only reverted, because user Shaaheen was adding it in wrong cat. I did not changed any name. check it, I only reverted. as far as thinking of new cat for educators, I think it is perfect. It covers every thing. so dont worry. --Spasage 08:52, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

 * thanks ...--Falcon007 09:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Just to say that you are doing a great work, and want to appologize for any misunderstandings earlier. Thanks ...--Falcon007 15:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Comment regarding Fourteen Points of Jinnah
Hi, Spasage. You recently created an article named Fourteen Points of Jinnah. Looking through Wikipedia, I located another article and found that the content on Fourteen Points of Jinnah was a direct copy of the material in Mohammad Ali Jinnah. If you wish to expand the article, you may do so, but as you have not done anything since the article was created, it may better serve as a redirect to Mohammad Ali Jinnah. If you have any questions, or if you wish to tell me that you intend on expanding the article, don't hesitate to leave a message at my talk page. Kareeser|Talk! 16:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Reason was to reduce the size of Mohammad Ali Jinnah. It is very long article. This article contains many events, which needs separate article and more details to do justice with them, like Fourteen Points of Jinnah. This is just one example, there are many such sub-articles in Mohammad Ali Jinnah article. I strongly favor reducing length of Jinnah's article by putting certain sub-articles as separate articles, where it can be expand as well. I have placed Fourteen Points of Jinnah separate article because it has its own history. Jinnah’s life has many dimensions, and putting everything in one article will not do justice with him. --Spasage 05:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Hi again, Spasage. Thanks for the reply, I understand your reasoning now. Just here to leave you a note about the article Mohammad Ali Jinnah. If the list itself should be its own article, then the list should be rewritten into a condensed form (or removed altogether) from Mohammad Ali Jinnah. Kareeser|Talk! 02:32, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion
Please check this list WikiProject Deletion sorting/Pakistan, and help arranging it. Thanks --Falcon007 13:05, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Makran Coastal Highway
I created Makran Coastal Highway and uploaded few photos. Later I found Coastal Highway (Pakistan) for the same subject. I would prefer to use its full name Makran Coastal Highway rather than just Coastal Highway. In any case I would like hear your comments.

Siddiqui 01:17, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Your are right, Makran Coastal Highway is full name and also tells the location. I am in favor of Makran Coastal Highway. --Spasage 04:54, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Renaming 'Independence movement of Pakistan'
Dear Spasage, Is there any way we can create a category 'Pakistan Movement' and merge your category in it? Because, Pakistan Movement is short and is the popular name by which it has always been remembered. There is an article also nammed Pakistan movement but I think it doesn't matter if we include a category also. --Falcon007 19:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, we can have cat 'Pakistan movement' and merge 'Independence movement of Pakistan'. --Spasage 09:40, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

 * thanks ...--Falcon007 16:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

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Abdur Rab Nishtar and Sardar Abdur Rab Nishtar
Abdur Rab Nishtar page was created on 19:55, 29 December 2005 while the Sardar Abdur Rab Nishtar page was created on 10:04, 23 February 2006. We should keep the older page and rename the newer page for another leader of Pakistani movement that does not have a page at this time. I look forward to your comments on this issue.

Siddiqui 21:40, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Information in both articles is same. I agree with you that we keep older page. Another solution is to redirect new page to old page.

--Spasage 05:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I will appreciate if you would recheck and categorize new pages that I created today: Chaklala, Fateh Jang and Religion in Pakistan. Thanks.
 * Siddiqui 16:58, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I have made some changes. But present categories are enough. One point to look into is, Chaklala is name of area in Pindi. I dont know that it is correct or not, but if it is correct, Chaklala can be added in other categories as well. --Spasage 09:32, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Books by Muhammad Iqbal

 * Thanks, Its perfectly fine with me. Lets change it. --Falcon007 06:53, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Aligarh
You are adding some universities in Aligarh. What is the link between unis and Aligarh? --Spasage 06:41, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I thaught it would be nice to see them as a part of legacy of Sir Syed. Category Aligarh would be a general cat for Aligarh University, movement, alumni, and some institutions. --Falcon007 06:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Ok, thanks. --Spasage 06:48, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

 * The work on Aligarh Template and related sites is just a start and I hope it would continue to become significant and get refined with time. Aligarh movement was such a significant movement that it had very few parallels in the last two centuries for Muslims in general, and Muslims of subcontinent in particular. --Falcon007 07:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Cat
Hi - Indian rebellion of 1857 belongs in the general history of Pakistan. It is not related to the demand for a separate Muslim nation. Rama's Arrow 13:51, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Category:War of Independence of 1857
Nice to meet you - greetings.

"Why you removed cat Pakistan movement from War of Independence of 1857? --Spasage 13:48, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I am sure that in 1857 there was nothing like the concept of Pakistan. The word Pakistan was not even created. --Bhadani 13:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)"

[above copied from Rama's page]]

I think that you are very new to the history of the Indian subcontinent. Anyway, it is fine. --Bhadani 13:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comments by User :Mel Etitis on this page also points to this fact - but please do not worry - you are a fast learner - I am sure. --Bhadani 13:57, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, I agree, reason to add in Pakistan movement was that there was a constant build up since 1857 for separate homeland for Muslims in subcontinent, due to a major reason that after 1857 there was no Muslim rule in subcontinent, and people started to feel for separate home for Muslim. This was added just for history, nothing else. I know that there was no such thing as Pakistan at that time, but there was realization. --Spasage 16:21, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Shamsur Rahman
How is he an Urdu Poet? --Ragib 06:50, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I am not saying that he is Urdu Poet, but he used to run a Journal which was in Urdu, as written in article Shabkhoon. If it is not Urdu journal, you can remove it. --Spasage 06:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I think you are mistaken here. This is a completely different poet ... the one you refer to is Shamsur Rahman Faruqi, and this poet (Shamsur Rahman) is a famous Bengali one (see library of congress entry). Thanks. --Ragib 06:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Link in Shabkhoon directly links with Shamsur Rahman, please correct it. --Spasage 07:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I made Shabkhoon point to Shamsur Rahman Faruqui. --Ragib 07:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

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 * I am not vandalizing. Please be precise if you have any issue. --Spasage 07:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, you blanked with no indication in the edit summary, kind of hard for the bot to determine your intent :) -- Tawker 07:21, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Again, please be precise. Even if i am not leaving any message, it does mean that you send me vandalism warnings. What is this???? I don’t understand if you can’t differentiate between vandals and non vandals, what services you can give to Wikipedia. It is really strange. You better check your bot. --Spasage 07:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * No, you're misunderstanding me. You / someone claiming to be you removed all of the text from an article page and did not leave an edit summary.  My bot flagged this as page blanking and reverted and gave you an auto warning.  If you take a second to look at the page here you'll see that your version of the page had no content on it.  I'm sure its an accident but the bot is functioning perfectly. -- Tawker 07:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I had another look, on your 2nd edit to the article you put in a redirect, maybe thats what you were trying to do the first time but forgot to copy paste in the redirect text. As there was nothing on the page, the bot flagged it as page blanking and reverted, its a fully automatic process with no human intervention whatsoever. Sorry for any confusion there -- Tawker 07:52, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Check the history, Shahid Masood article needed merger. I was merging, but your bot started to send me messages. I understand what you are saying, but hopefully it will not happen again. Your bot may be doing great job, but above was not perfect. I hop it will not happen again, and your bot will do good job to stop vandalism in Wikipedia. --Spasage 07:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * In the case of the merge, a redirect is usually in order which I see you did on the second edit and the bot noticed that its a redirect and didn't touch it. I really don't know what else to say, the bot did exactly what it was programmed to do, I know it seem a little accusing when you get a bot warning but I'm not sure how else I can word it, syntax errors do happen and the bot will revert on those, it works exactly according to its programming, it just doesn't have the capabilities to determine anything other than what it's given. In the future if you merge, just use a redirect and the bot won't touch it. -- Tawker 08:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I just pulled the bots warning because it was pretty obviously not bad faith vandalism, feel free to do whatever you wish with it -- Tawker 08:08, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks and no problem. I understand what you are saying. I am available, if you need any help to improve your bot or help in any other way to improve Wikipedia. --Spasage 08:43, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Hill Stations of Pakistan
I created new pages about resorts in northern area and then created Hill Stations of Pakistan. Later I did find an existing Pakistani hill Stations category. The Airlines of Pakistan the Airport of Pakistan are established format so in my opinion Hill Stations of Pakistan follows established pattern than Pakistani hill Stations. If you feel otherwisw then you can change them. I have been bogged down in a RfC Requests for comment/Siddiqui so did not have time to consult this change with others including you. Siddiqui 14:21, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Spasage 05:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

UET Taxila and University of Engineering and Technology, Taxila
Ahmad R Shahid created UET Taxila but the page for that university already exists. UET Taxila page should be deleted and renamed after Ahmad R Shahid agrees. Siddiqui 06:56, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, UET Taxila should be deleted. --Spasage 08:42, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Abu Bakr
Why did you reformat the external links so that all the text was included, rather than the more common (and to my eye better) method of ncluding the title, and placing the rest of the text outside? Are you following up some decision made somewhere? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 19:00, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

 * This is another way of formatting external links. What you are saying is also correct. I thought including text works well. --Spasage 05:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia survey
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Jeeva article
Hi,

Actually i created a disambig for Jeeva so both film and actor articles can be linked from there, i think it should be fine. I even created the film article Jeeva (urdu). so i request you that let the disambig be present in Jeeva, so people can check any article whichever they want.

Few example for disambig :

 * Pakistan_Muslim_League
 * Pak

This what i tried to make, hope you understand.

--M.arunprasad 06:26, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I understand. Look, Jeeva is Pakistani film. It was created before actor Jeeva page. So a better way is that you leave the page Jeeva for movie as it, without changing name, and make Jeeva (actor) for actor. Don’t change current Jeeva page. Also, make disambig for Jeeva, which Links to

 * Jeeva, Pakistani movie
 * Jeeva (actor), Actor

This is correct way. If you do this, I dont have any issue.

--Spasage 06:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I have made the Jeeva a Disambig page, just like Pak article and etc. I accept that Jeeva film article was created long ago before Jeeva actor. But i just followed the guidelines of Wikipedia, if more than one article have the same title we must make it a disambig page and list all the articles on that disambiguation page. Please refer Disambiguation and also check Jeeva. --M.arunprasad 06:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I understand wikipedia guidelines, but user User:Prin was changing Jeeva article which deals with a Pakistani film to Jeeva which deals with an actor. How can you change existing article of a film to article of an actor? It is simply unfair with existing article. What you have done is correct. Now we have articles for both Jeeva (urdu) and Jeeva (actor). You can refer to Jeeva history for details how article was altered unfairly. It is ok and thanks for doing it. --Spasage 10:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Confusion was caused because 3 people edited a single article. Also when i made the disambig page even you reverted it (Your edits after disambig), then again i came to your talk page. Anyway i'm happy that this issue didn't grew bigger. Thanks for understanding and resolving the issue. please feel free to contact me incase you need my help in future. --M.arunprasad 11:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, usre User:Prin was changing Jeeva article. Same here. --Spasage 06:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Karachi Page
The SeanMack has nominated Karachi page as a good article nominee, check Talk:Karachi. I think we have to form a team and work together to improve the page and get that nomination. Siddiqui 06:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * You are right. I am in. --Spasage 06:10, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Zaib-un-Nissa Hamidullah
Thanks for the offer, but I'd like to do the article myself. No offense. However, I'd like it if you could give me tips, etc. Also, could you possibly help me in the formatting? Please reply on my talk page.--Le Grey Intellectual 13:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Need your Help
I need support in editing the page for Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh from Pakistani-Wikipedians. The page concludes Pakistans link to 9/11 using information from Indian press and much information in that page is without proper references. The page says that ISI gives money to Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh and Sheikh then wired the money to Atta. I have checked some of the references on that page and information in the references is different from what is mentioned in it. I will really appreciate any of your help in improving that page with propoganda against Pakistan. Faisal 23:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Pakistan
I have started History of Pakistan project. It combines all the events which occured before partition. As you are working in this area, join this project and encourage others to do the same. You can also contribute in article Karachi, which is good article nominee. --Spasage 06:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and nice work ... I wish I could be as active as I used to but currently I am little pressed for time. Hopefully I would try to contribute as much as possible. Thanks --Falcon007 20:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

About Changing Your User Page
I thought it would be great to list your user page under Wikipedians from Pakistan category because you are actively working on wikipedia. In that way more new members can contact you, using your talk page, when they will visit Wikipedians from Pakistan. I though I am improving your user page. However, I found a really rude guy, who termed my good intension as vandalism. I wish I never had contacted you in the first place. After your rude message I now wishes that I really had vandalize your page or continue doing that again and again (as long as I could). Faisal 07:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

 * It would me nice if you ask same things in my discussion page first. Userpage is for User to add/edit/delete (in some cases for others to add/edit/delete). I tried my best not to say anything which hurts you. But it should be my decision to add whatever I like to on my Userpage, not some one else. I apologize if words were offensive. I can change wording, but PLEASE don’t add any thing on any ones Userpage except, editing which are allowed (they are many and very exciting which really encourages people to contribute). If you have suggestions for my Userpage (which don’t have any thing), please feel free to give me on my discussion page. One last thing Vandalism is not as bad as you think in this context. You changed some thing without my permission, don’t take it in bad meaning. If you need any help in any way, do inform me. --Spasage 07:57, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

 * There is not written anywhere that only a user himself can improve his user page and others are NOT ALLOWED. Show me that where it is written. Vandalism term should be used when someone has added abusive terms in your page, deleted its contents, twisted its material or has added vulgar material in it etc. Have I done anything like that? You DO NOT "own" your user page and anyone can improve it. Please read about vandalism before labeling anyone. Faisal 08:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Definition of wikipedia User page vandalismUser page vandalism: Replacing User pages with insults, profanity, etc.  [ wiki-vandalism ] Faisal 08:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Your attitude is disturbing. --Spasage 08:46, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

 * No your first message at my talk page was wrong and disturbing. You could obviously revert back the changes on your user page as it is your user page after-all. However, if someone having very good intention change your user page, then you cannot jump and be abusive to that person. That was disturbing... I had not done any thing illegal according to wikipedia rules and believe me that my intention was very friendly/brotherly. Faisal 12:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I changed the wording of my message and also I started my message so that it does not look offensive, but your reaction was highly offensive. I used word vandalism in very general sense. I don’t think I wrote any thing which was offensive, except the word “vandalism”, which I used in very general way, not to be rude or some thing else with anyone and I changed it after your protest. I tried not to be rude, check what subject I had. I even changed my message. I am available without those tags, but you should understand the meaning of User page, you wrote what you like on your userpage, if I change it (for good or bad), you will feel it, similar was the case with me. You can give me suggestions, I am open for it. I understand that your intentions were good, changes you have made shows that.--Spasage 12:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Thank you for edition my talk page. You can also delete this talk-section from your talk page, I did not find any rules that disallow that. I have no heart feeling towards you. In case you add anything good on my User page, I will be happy and I do not understand that why I will not like that? --- Faisal 12:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I think it is over. We both are members of this group. If you need any help in any way, let me know. We are working in same area, so hopefully we'll collaborate in future in constructive way. I regret if anything which I said hurt you. I never attempted to say anything which is offensive, if unknowingly I said any such thing, I apologize for it. --Spasage 05:52, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Can you please spend sometime on Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh page. The page has lots of propoganda against Pakistan. Many statements are said without any reference. In few cases the reference does not say a thing that the text says. Most of the reference from India authors which are obviously biased towards Pakistan. The page concludes that -- ISI give money to Sheikh and Sheikh gives money to M. Atta. How conduct 9/11 operations. -- The page says that whole 9/11 is because of ISI. Thank you in advance.--- Faisal 09:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Any help
Can you please spend sometime on Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh page. The page has lots of propoganda against Pakistan. Many statements are said without any reference. In few cases the reference does not say a thing that the text says. Most of the reference are from India authors which are obviously biased towards Pakistan. The page concludes that -- ISI give money to Sheikh and Sheikh gives money to M. Atta. who conducted 9/11 operations. -- The page give impression that whole 9/11 is because of ISI. Thank you in advance.--- Faisal 09:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I have already made some changes, but it needs many more. I am working on it. --Spasage 09:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

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Ohio high school athletic conferences

This is a list of high school athletic conferences in Ohio, separated by Ohio High School Athletic Association (OHSAA) region. Some conferences have schools in multiple regions, and will be listed in all applicable regions. However, the conference information is on the region page where the most schools are classified in.

Conference membership in Ohio is voluntary, rather than assigned by the state association like in some states. While this ensures that many rivalries stay intact regardless of classification changes, it also means schools can choose to change conferences pending acceptance into a different conference, or in rare cases, can be forced out of a conference. This can explain why some conferences have a lengthy list of former members, and the number of defunct conferences.

Central Region
This region includes the counties of Delaware, Franklin, Knox, Licking, Madison, Morrow, and Union, as well as schools within Fairfield, Marion, and Pickaway counties. While the Central Region includes a small number of conferences, many of these leagues contain many schools with multiple divisions.

 * Central Catholic League
 * Columbus City League
 * Knox-Morrow Athletic Conference
 * Licking County League
 * Mid-Ohio Athletic Conference
 * Mid-Ohio Christian Athletic League
 * Mid-State League
 * Ohio Capital Conference

East/Southeast Regions
The East region includes the counties of Belmont, Carroll, Coshocton, Guernsey, Harrison, Holmes, Jefferson, Monroe, Morgan, Muskingum, Noble, and Tuscarawas, as well as schools within Washington County. The Southeast region includes the counties of Adams, Athens, Fayette, Gallia, Highland, Hocking, Jackson, Lawrence, Meigs, Perry, Pike, Ross, Scioto, and Vinton, as well as schools within Brown, Fairfield, Pickaway, and Washington counties. Due to the low amount of conferences separately, and the number of conferences that contain members of both regions, these two regions are combined onto one page.

 * Buckeye 8 Athletic League
 * East Central Ohio League
 * Frontier Athletic Conference
 * Independents
 * Inter-Valley Conference
 * Muskingum Valley League
 * Ohio Valley Athletic Conference
 * Ohio Valley Conference
 * Pioneer Valley Conference
 * Scioto Valley Conference
 * Southern Hills Athletic Conference
 * Southern Ohio Conference
 * Tri-Valley Conference

Northeast Region
This region includes the counties of Ashtabula, Columbiana, Cuyahoga, Geauga, Lake, Lorain, Mahoning, Medina, Portage, Stark, Summit, Trumbull, and Wayne, as well as schools within Ashland and Erie counties.

 * Akron City Series
 * All-American Conference
 * Chagrin Valley Conference
 * Cleveland Senate Athletic League
 * Eastern Buckeye Conference
 * Eastern Ohio Athletic Conference
 * Federal League
 * Great Lakes Conference
 * Greater Cleveland Conference
 * Independents
 * Lake Erie League
 * Lorain County 8
 * Metro Athletic Conference
 * Mahoning Valley Athletic Conference
 * North Coast League
 * Northeastern Athletic Conference
 * Northeast 8 Athletic Conference
 * Portage Trail Conference
 * Principals Athletic Conference
 * Southwestern Conference
 * Suburban League
 * Wayne County Athletic League
 * Western Reserve Conference

Northwest Region
This region includes the counties of Allen, Auglaize, Crawford, Defiance, Fulton, Hancock, Hardin, Henry, Huron, Lucas, Mercer, Ottawa, Paulding, Putnam, Richland, Sandusky, Seneca, Van Wert, Williams, Wood, and Wyandot, as well as schools within Ashland, Erie, and Marion counties.

 * Blanchard Valley Conference
 * Buckeye Border Conference
 * Firelands Conference
 * Green Meadows Conference
 * Mid-Buckeye Conference
 * Midwest Athletic Conference
 * Northern 10 Athletic Conference
 * Northern Buckeye Conference
 * Northern Lakes League
 * Northwest Central Conference
 * Northwest Conference
 * Northwest Ohio Athletic League
 * Ohio Cardinal Conference
 * Putnam County League
 * Sandusky Bay Conference
 * Sandusky River League
 * Three Rivers Athletic Conference
 * Toledo Area Athletic Conference
 * Toledo City League
 * Western Buckeye League

Southwest Region
This region includes the counties of Butler, Champaign, Clark, Clermont, Clinton, Darke, Greene, Hamilton, Logan, Miami, Montgomery, Preble, Shelby, and Warren, as well as schools within Brown County.

 * Central Buckeye Conference
 * Cincinnati Hills League
 * Cincinnati Metro Athletic Conference
 * Cross County Conference
 * Dayton City League
 * Eastern Cincinnati Conference
 * Greater Catholic League
 * Greater Miami Conference
 * Greater Western Ohio Conference
 * Independents
 * Metro Buckeye Conference
 * Miami Valley Conference
 * Miami Valley League
 * Ohio Heritage Conference
 * Shelby County Athletic League
 * Southern Buckeye Athletic/Academic Conference
 * Southwest Ohio Conference
 * Southwestern Buckeye League
 * Western Ohio Athletic Conference

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User talk:Vizcarra/September 16-31

POV
Hey, Vizcarra. A belated thanks for your comments on the Zionism:talk page. I am also currently tangling with a couple of your old friends at Occupied Territories. Specifically, Jayjg has been reverting my changes, and SlimVirgin joined him on at least one occasion. With apologies for bothering you with this, could I recruit you to make a revert on occasion if this ridiculousness continues? Thanks in any case. (For your amusement, you might note that Jayjg had violated 3RR until he reverted his last, revert.) Marsden 17:58, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Municipalities of Baja California
Hi Vizcarra. I'm working on the slow process of creating an article for every Mexican municipality (it'll take forever, but oh, well) and I came across your map Image:Bajamunicipios.PNG. I'm thinking of being bold and modify it in order to make all maps about Mexico consistent (e.g. similar to the maps of the states and boroughs of the Federal District). I just thought of letting you know and hope you don't mind. Cheers. -- Rune Welsh ταλκ 18:47, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Canales not Elizondo
Hello!.... current secretary of energy is Fernando Canales Clariond NOT Fernando Elizondo Barragán as you just updated. Anyway, i have already updated both bios.

cheers, Abögarp

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Talk:Proconsul africanus

Morphology write-up
This looks to me like a write-up of only one skull, especially the part about lacking the supraorbital ridge. The species cannot have lacked that, but it may be missing on one or more specimens. I suggest a rewrite for generalization purposes.Dave 14:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

The write up also appears to be substantially plagarized from http://cacajao.tripod.com/proconsul_africanus.html 208.72.122.223 (talk) 15:07, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Additional Sources
I had to do a paper on this primate, and I have the following references to offer:

T. Harrison and P. Andrews. (2009). The anatomy and systematic position of the early Miocene proconsulid from Meswa Bridge, Kenya. Journal of Human Evolution 56(5), 479-496.

Alan Walker, Dean Falk, Richard Smith & Martin Pickford. (1983). The skull of Proconsul africanus: reconstruction and cranial capacity. Nature 305, 525-527.doi:10.1038/305525a0

Proctor, Robert N. (2005). Finding Life in Old Bones. [Review of the book The Ape in the Tree:An Intellectual and Natural History of Proconsul Science 309(5738), 1188.doi:10.1126/science.1112101 Senobyte (talk) 07:01, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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Foreign born

Foreign-born (also non-native) people are those born outside of their country of residence. Foreign born are often non-citizens, but many are naturalized citizens of the country in which they live, and others are citizens by descent, typically through a parent.

The term foreign born encompasses both immigrants and expatriates but is not synonymous with either. Foreign born may, like immigrants, have committed to living in a country permanently or, like expatriates, live abroad for a significant period with the plan to return to their birth-country eventually.

The status of foreign born — particularly their access to citizenship — differs globally. The large groups of foreign-born guest workers in the Gulf Cooperation Council states, for example, have no right to citizenship no matter the length of their residence. In Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom, and the United States, by contrast, foreign born are often citizens or in the process of becoming citizens. Certain countries have intermediary rules: in Germany and Japan it is often difficult but not impossible for the foreign born to become citizens.

Definition
The adjective foreign-born has two potential meanings:

 * "born in a country other than that in which one resides."
 * "foreign by birth."

The United Nations uses the first definition to estimate the international migrant stock, whenever this information is available. In countries lacking data on place of birth, the UN uses the country of citizenship instead.

On the other hand, the United States Census Bureau defines foreign-born as "anyone who is not a U.S. citizen at birth", which includes persons who have become U.S. citizens through naturalization but excludes persons born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents.

According to the UN: "Equating international migrants with foreign citizens when estimating the migrant stock has important shortcomings. In countries where citizenship is conferred on the basis of jus sanguinis, people who were born in the country of residence may be included in the number of international migrants even though they may have never lived abroad. Conversely, persons who were born abroad and who naturalized in their country of residence are excluded from the stock of international migrants when using citizenship as the criterion to define international migrants."

Trends by country
The percentage of foreign born in a country is the product mostly of immigration rates, but is also affected by emigration rates and birth and death rates in the destination country. For example, the United Kingdom and Ireland are destination countries for migrants from Eastern Europe, Africa, and Asia, but are themselves source countries for immigration to other English-speaking countries.

The Holy See is unique in having 100% of its population foreign-born, while Cuba is unique in having 0% of its population foreign-born. The region with the highest rate is Oceania, with 21%, while Asia has less than 1%.

Countries with immigration rates above 25% tend to be wealthy countries with relatively open migration or labour laws, including Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland and the Persian Gulf states.

The largest foreign-born population in the world is in the United States, which was home to 39 million foreign-born residents in 2012, or 12.6% of the population.

Metropolitan and urban regions with the largest foreign-born populations

 * 1) Data for the cities listed below is from numerous sources.

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User:Liberlogos/Parti Québécois leadership election, 2005

The Parti Québécois leadership election of 2005 will be held from November 13 to November 15, 2005 to elect the new leader of the Parti Québécois, the main sovereigntist and social democratic political party in Quebec, Canada.

It is the second race of its kind in the history of the party, following the leadership election of 1985. It will be conducted in two rounds, under a preferential voting system.

Background
On June 4, 2005, party leader Bernard Landry announced his intention to resign as leader of the PQ after getting 76.2% in a vote of confidence in his leadership from delegates to the party National Council. The party appointed Louise Harel as its interim leader. Gilles Duceppe, leader of the federal-level sovereigntist political party, the Bloc Québécois, was expected to be a strong candidate if he had decided to run. On June 11, he however announced that he would remain leader of the Bloc despite pressure to make a bid for the leadership of the PQ.

Campaign
After months of pre-campaign, the race officially began on September 15, 2005, the official deadline for entering the race. Soon, André Boisclair emerged as a favorite in the polls, with Pauline Marois second, Richard Legendre a close third and Louis Bernard fourth. The validity of these polls, much touted by the media, was however challenged by some candidate organizations since they were conducted on the whole population of Quebec, rather than the actual voter pool, the legal members of the Parti Québécois. Also criticized was the intense media focus on the four candidates leading in these said polls, leaving the ideas of the other candidates in the dark. The later were much less discussed and their opening monologues were even cut for pundit commentary in LCN live broadcastings of the official candidates' debates.

A controversy made some impression, albeit relatively briefly, on the campaign: the said Affaire Boisclair. On September 10, 2005, Le Devoir columnist Michel David refered in his column to a relatively unnoticed past article of Le Droit alluding to rumors of André Boisclair having lived a wild younger life and taken cocaine. Boisclair initially recognized a youth of partying and mistakes. Days later, after much media pressure, he admitted having "consumed". Ironically, this only made his popularity stronger in polling, something credited by pundits to popular sympathy in the face of the weight of the media scrutiny. The fact that Boisclair came out in 2000 on the subject of his homosexuality did not hampered his campaign either. Polls showed that more than 90% of Quebecers were not opposed to a gay Premier of Quebec. On public perceptions, Pauline Marois also raised the theory that her campaign was hurt by the fact that she is female.

Much of the ideological discussion occured during the official candidates' debates held across Quebec. New ideas were brought up. Amongst others, André Boisclair expounded a debt reduction plan and spoke of free higher education provided by the state. Richard Legendre talked much of more autonomy for Quebec regions. Pauline Marois spoke of water nationalization in an eventual Eau-Québec, like what was created with Hydro-Québec for electricity during the legendary Quiet Revolution. Speaking much about the struggle against poverty, Pierre Dubuc, Jean Ouimet and Gilbert Paquette showed themselves favourable to a guaranteed minimum income system, something that Marois agreed to.

Many candidates declared their intention to put an accent on public transportation and wind power. Ghislain Lebel was a black sheep of this progressive panel with more conservative ideas and Jean-Claude Saint-André defended the ideas of the pur et dur party stream, notably that of making gestures of rupture with Canada, sovereign state actions before sovereignty and contrary to the Canadian constitution, never signed by Quebec. The strongest concensus between all candidates was that most of these projects were possible through and only through national independence.

Vote
The voting will be conducted by phone from November 13 to November 15, 2005 through a system used for the popular votes in the Star Académie TV show. The winner of the party leadership election will be declared on November 15, 2005. The date was chosen in honor of the famous first great victory of the Parti Québécois, when it was first brought to power on November 15, 1976. The election will work with a system of preferential voting, in two rounds.

Public debates
The seven public debates are orchestrated by election president Lyne Marcoux. They are broadcast live via the Parti Québécois official website, pq.org, and the LCN television news network. In order to allow substantial and orderly exchanges with such a number of people, every occasion is divided into a series of three discussions, amongst three candidates each. Candidate groupings are set at random. Additionally, for every debate, opening and closing speeches are addressed, and selected questions from the audience and the internet are debated. This selection is executed by an impartial panel lead by Monique Richard, the party president.

Solidarity & public finances
The debate on solidarity & public finances took place on September 21, 2005 in Sherbrooke.

Sustainable development & economy
The debate on sustainable development & economy took place on September 28, 2005 in Montreal.

Culture
The debate on culture took place on October 12, 2005 in Trois-Rivières.

Sovereignty and leadership
The debate on sovereignty and leadership will take place on October 19, 2005 in Quebec City.

Territory
The debate on territory will take place on October 26, 2005 in Rimouski.

Education
The debate on education will take place on November 2, 2005 in Saguenay.

Health
The debate on health will take place on November 9, 2005 in Gatineau.

Official
Candidates listed have collected at least 1000 signatures from 40 different ridings, with a minimum of 10 signatures per riding. By order of official candidacy.

 * Richard Legendre - Former professional tennis player and former Minister of Sports. He is considered close to François Legault.
 * Louis Bernard - Former Chief of Staff to Parti Québécois Premier René Lévesque and former Secretary general of the Government to Parti Québécois Premiers René Lévesque and Jacques Parizeau.
 * André Boisclair - Former Minster of the Environment and House Leader. Polls show him to be the frontrunner.
 * Pauline Marois - Former Minister of Finance, former Minister of Education and former Deputy Premier of Quebec.
 * Ghislain Lebel - Former Bloc Québécois MP who quit his seat in 2002. He is relatively more conservative than the other candidates and the party center.
 * Jean-Claude St-André - Parti Québécois MNA, considered a pur et dur close to Robert Laplante's strategy of gestures of rupture with Canada between an eventual PQ victory and the attainment of independence.
 * Pierre Dubuc - Official candidate of the SPQ Libre left-wing and pro-union political club and editor of the left-wing paper L'aut'journal.
 * Gilbert Paquette - Former minister under René Lévesque.
 * Jean Ouimet - Former head of the Green Party of Quebec and former adviser to Parti Québécois leader Jacques Parizeau.

Withdrawals

 * Hugues Cormier - Physician and candidate in the riding of Crémazie in the 2003 election. Controversy brought him to pull out three days after officially entering the race.
 * Gilles Hébert - Former public service union representative.
 * Gilles Paquette - Former Parti Québécois candidate. Did not gather enough signatures in time for the deadline.

Declined

 * Maxime Barakat
 * Camil Bouchard - Member of the National Assembly.
 * Jean-Pierre Charbonneau - Former cabinet minister and former President of the National Assembly.
 * Gilles Duceppe - Bloc Québécois leader. He declined, notably to honor his promise of contesting the next federal election at the BQ helm.
 * Joseph Facal - Former cabinet minister considered relatively more centrist than other PQ members. He cited the professional and family commitments that led him to quit the cabinet in 2003. He has since sided with candidate Pauline Marois.
 * Bernard Landry - Former leader. A number of people requested that he become a candidate at the race for his own succession. After a summer reflexion, the former Premier declined.
 * Laurent M. Leclerc - Singer and actor.
 * François Legault - Former cabinet minister and past well-known aspirant to the leadership. He cited family commitments.
 * Daniel Turp - PQ Member of the National Assembly and past Member of Parliament for the Bloc Québécois. He declared his support for André Boisclair.

Timeline

 * June 4, 2005 - Party leader Bernard Landry states his intention to resign as leader of the PQ after getting 76.2% in a vote of confidence at the Party National Council.
 * June 5, 2005 - Former Parti Québécois minister Pauline Marois is first to announce her intention to enter the leadership race. The statement is criticized by some militants because of its haste, coming one day after the resignation speech of Bernard Landry.
 * June 13, 2005 - Gilles Duceppe announces that he will not enter the race and will remain at the helm of the Bloc Québécois for the next federal election.
 * June 13, 2005 - The party presents the official rules of the upcoming race.
 * June 15, 2005 - An open letter to Bernard Landry is published in newspapers. It implores the former leader to become candidate in the race for his own succession for the sake of the cause of sovereignty. It is signed by over forty people (mostly from minorities), like Bloc Québécois MP Maka Kotto, Bloc Québécois past candidate and president of the PQ Montréal-Ville-Marie organisation Maria Mourani and past Bloc Québécois MP Osvaldo Nuñez, notably. This follows the launch of "retourbernardlandry.org", an online petition sharing the same goal.
 * July 11, 2005 - The candidacy of Richard Legendre is officially accepted by the party.
 * July 30, 2005 - The candidacy of Louis Bernard is officially accepted by the party.
 * August 5, 2005 - The candidacy of André Boisclair is officially accepted by the party.
 * August 16, 2005 - Former leader Bernard Landry, after reflexion, ends the uncertainty around a possible candidacy of his to succeed himself. He officially renounces to become candidate and professes in faith in the capacity of the party to find a new leader and renew itself.
 * August 18, 2005 - The candidacy of Pauline Marois is officially accepted by the party.
 * August 19, 2005 - The candidacy of Ghislain Lebel is officially accepted by the party.
 * August 25, 2005 - The candidacy of Jean-Claude St-André is officially accepted by the party.
 * September 1, 2005 - Bloc Québécois MP and former Parti Québécois minister Serge Ménard announces his support for candidate Louis Bernard.
 * September 2, 2005 - Days after official candidacy, psychiatrist Hugues Cormier resigns after being suspended by his employer, the Louis-Hippolyte-Lafontaine Hospital for asking patients to sign his candidacy slip.
 * September 6, 2005 - Bloc Québécois MP Maka Kotto announces his support for Pauline Marois. He had previously favoured a return of Bernard Landry, until the latter's definite refusal of August 16.
 * September 7, 2005 - Louise Harel, the Parti Québécois interim leader, speaks at a Bloc Québécois gathering and states that the PQ leadership candidates should debate, not battle.
 * September 9, 2005 - Former Parti Québécois vice president Marie Malavoy announces her support for Pauline Marois.
 * September 9, 2005 - The candidacy of SPQ Libre representative Pierre Dubuc is officially accepted by the party.
 * September 10, 2005 - Le Devoir columnist Michel David refers in his column to a relatively unnoticed past article of Le Droit alluding to rumors of André Boisclair having lived a wild younger life, taken cocaine and having been strongly reprimanded by then Parti Québécois leader Lucien Bouchard for it.
 * September 12, 2005 - The candidacy of Gilbert Paquette is officially accepted by the party.
 * September 13, 2005 - After having being brought to court because of alleged drunk driving, candidate Gilbert Paquette announces to a press conference that he intends to remain in the race.
 * September 15, 2005 - Jean Ouimet becomes the ninth and last official candidate.
 * September 15, 2005 - The deadline for entering the race, with the required 1,000 signatures, is reached, launching officially the race for the party leadership.
 * September 16, 2005 - The party presents the nine official candidates.
 * September 16, 2005 - At the party headquarters, André Boisclair is asked about the rumors surrounding his past. Boisclair denies a reprimand meeting with leader Lucien Bouchard, but admits that he had made "mistakes" in his youth.
 * September 16, 2005 - At a brunch commemorating the 2004 Parti Québécois victory of Elsie Lefebvre in the Parti Libéral du Québec stronghold of Laurier-Dorion, former leader Bernard Landry states his hopes that the accusation excesses will cease, seemingly referring to the scrutiny around Boisclair's past personal life. He also enjoins militants in his speech, his first public speech since his resignation, to rally around the future elected leader, whoever he or she may be.
 * September 18, 2005 - André Boisclair is a guest of the Tout le monde en parle television show.
 * September 19, 2005 - At a Lévis press conference, when asked directly if he had ever taken cocaine, André Boiclair responds "What I want to tell you is I made mistakes, things I regret. Yes, I consumed. I can't be clearer than that."
 * September 19, 2005 - The first official public debate is held at Sherbrooke on the subject of "solidarity & public finances".
 * September 20, 2005 - Richard Legendre receives the support of Elsie Lefebvre and François Gendron, respectively the youngest and oldest Members of the National Assembly.
 * September 28, 2005 - The second official public debate is held at Montreal on the subject of "sustainable development & economy".
 * September 30, 2005 - Ghislain Lebel declares in an interview with Le Devoir that André Boisclair's victory seems unavoidable.
 * October 4, 2005 - Jean Ouimet and Gilbert Paquette hold a common press conference during which they deplore the lack of media attention for the candidates and the importance put by them on population-wide polls that, they say, give wrong impressions, since the actual leadership vote is held only amongst party members. The two also speak of projects like the elaboration of a social contract, wealth redistribution in Quebec and the world and a provisional constitution before independence.
 * October 6, 2005 - The Société Saint-Jean-Baptiste organizes a public debate on "language" at its home office of Montreal, the Maison Ludger-Duvernay. Seven out of nine candidates attend.
 * October 10, 2005 - Corinne Côté-Lévesque, the widow of Parti Québécois founder and sovereigntism spiritual father René Lévesque, announces her support for Louis Bernard.
 * October 12, 2005 - Gilbert Paquette speaks, in a Le Devoir interview, of the possibility of a common candidacy for the four candidates most to the left, Pierre Dubuc, Jean Ouimet, Jean-Claude Saint-André and himself, saying that four candidates is too much for the most progressive.
 * October 12, 2005 - The third official public debate is held at Trois-Rivières on the subject of "culture".
 * October 14, 2005 - The recruiting period is over, midnight of October 14 being the deadline for new members to become party members and have voting rights for the election. The party organization reports a 60% membership rise, from 71,000 to 112,000.

Slogans

 * Louis Bernard - Un homme solide, un Québec solidaire - A solid man, a Quebec of solidarity
 * André Boisclair - Ensemble - Together
 * Pierre Dubuc - Indépendant, tout est possible - Independent, everything is possible
 * Ghislain Lebel - Debout avec vous - Stood up with you
 * Richard Legendre - En équipe pour le pays! - Teamed-up for the country!
 * Pauline Marois - Pour réussir notre indépendance - To succeed with our independence
 * Jean-Claude St-André - L'autre façon de faire! - The other way of doing things!

Election

 * Election page on Parti Québécois website
 * Election page on Vigile.net
 * Election page on SRC website

Candidates

 * Richard Legendre campaign site
 * Louis Bernard campaign site
 * André Boisclair campaign site
 * Pauline Marois campaign site
 * Ghislain Lebel campaign site
 * Jean-Claude St-André campaign site
 * Jean Ouimet campaign site
 * Pierre Dubuc campaign site

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Eva Alterman Blay

Eva Alterman Blay, a Brazilian sociologist, was born in São Paulo in 1937.

She is a pioneer of women’s rights in Brazil and is the founder of the Center for the Study of Women and Gender Rights at the University of São Paulo. She is active in politics as a member of the centrist Brazilian Social Democracy Party, and was the first woman to sit in the Brazilian Senate. She has Master's, Doctoral and Postdoctoral degrees in Sociology. Blay sits on the board of the Remember the Women Institute In 1986, she was elected first alternate to Senator Fernando Henrique Cardoso, replacing him when the incumbent was successively Minister of Foreign Affairs (1992-1993) and Minister of Finance (1993-1994) in the Itamar Franco administration. Victorious in the 1994 election, the incumbent resigned to assume the President of Brazil, therefore making Blay senator for the state of São Paulo, completing the term that would end in January 1995. She never ran for elective office again.

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Vitālijs Astafjevs

Vitālijs Astafjevs (born 3 April 1971) is a Latvian professional football coach and former player who played as a midfielder. He is an assistant manager of Cypriot club Aris Limassol having previously held the role for the Latvia national team.

Astafjevs won nine Latvian championships with Skonto Riga. He also played abroad for clubs in Austria, England and Russia. At international level, Astaefjevs captained Latvia at UEFA Euro 2004. With 167 caps for his country Astafjevs held the European record for the most international matches played, until being overtaken by Gianluigi Buffon in 2017. He is currently the joint sixteenth-most capped male footballer in history, alongside Iker Casillas.

Early career
Born in Riga, Astafjevs started his professional career with Skonto Riga in 1992, shortly after Latvia had regained its independence from the Soviet Union. He played there for five seasons, until 1996, becoming a vital first eleven player. They won the league in each of his first four seasons. Twice, in 1995 and 1996, Astafjevs was named the Latvian footballer of the year. In 1995, atypically for a midfielder, he became the top scorer of the league with 19 goals in 28 matches. In 1996, he moved abroad for the first time in his career and joined Austria Vienna in Austria. He played there just for a season and then, in 1997, returned to Skonto. He played there for three seasons, and won three more league titles. He went abroad again in 2000, this time joining Football League Division Two side Bristol Rovers in England.

Bristol Rovers
Astafjevs was signed for Rovers by Ian Holloway, who then managed to persuade authorities to issue him with a work permit. He arrived in the second half of the 1999-2000 season when the club were in second place. His fifth match was away to Oldham Athletic and saw him score and set up two more in an eventual 4–1 win, despite being stretchered off. Rovers fell to seventh by the end of the season, missing the play-offs. The following season had them relegated to the fourth tier for the first time in their history. He scored only twice during the 2001–02 season, but in the following campaign he scored four in the last six league matches to avoid a further relegation. He was then released by manager Ray Graydon.

Later career
In 2003, after being released, he returned to Austria and joined Admira Wacker Mödling. In 2004, after the European Championship, having spent one season in Austria, Astafjevs joined the Russian Premier League club Rubin Kazan. Once again he was one of the team's leaders there. Finishing the 2005 season, Astafjevs decided to join Skonto Riga again, where he became the Latvian champion 8 times (previous years of playing also included). In 2007, at the age of 36, he was once again named Latvian footballer of the year.

On 9 September 2008, alongside his teammate Marians Pahars, Astafjevs announced his retirement from professional football. After a few days Astafjevs declined this fact, stating he could play for a different club. After the new year it was announced that Astafjevs would play for Olimps/RFS and he would also be the assistant manager alongside Andrejs Štolcers and Mihails Koņevs, whilst the manager of the club would be the Dutch coach Anton Joore. Olimps/RFS then hadn't secured themselves a place in the higher league yet, but there was a possibility if the club merged with another team from Riga. After a half season spent there he joined last season's champions Ventspils, who were completing their squad for the upcoming UEFA Europa League matches. Appearing in the tournament's group stages, Astafjevs played only 5 matches there and was released in November 2009. In 2010 Astafjevs returned to Skonto Riga once again and became the Latvian champion with them. After the 2010 season Astafjevs retired from professional football.

International career
Astafjevs debuted for Latvia at the age of 21 on 26 August 1992, against then-European champions Denmark in qualification for the 1994 FIFA World Cup. From that time he was a vital player in the national team, playing there for 18 years. Astafjevs scored his first international goal on 2 July 1993 on his 14th cap, a friendly 2–0 win over Estonia.

In 1999, after the retirement of Vladimirs Babičevs, Astafjevs became the captain of the team. His first match as captain was his 58th in total, against Greece on 31 March in qualification for Euro 2000. On 31 March 2004, he became the first ever Latvian player to play 100 internationals, as they beat Slovenia in an away friendly. As the team's captain, he participated in the Euro 2004 championship in Portugal, playing in all three of Latvia's games. His last international appearance was a friendly match against China on 17 November 2010. There was a special ceremony after the game to honour him. After his retirement, defender Kaspars Gorkšs was elected to be the next captain of the team.

Record
On 14 October 2009, in a 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification match against Moldova, Astafjevs equalled the European record for the most matches in a national team; Astafjevs went level with the then-record holder Estonian Martin Reim on 157 caps. On 15 November 2009, in a friendly match against Honduras, Astafjevs set a new European record with 158 caps. His European record of 167 caps was matched by Iker Casillas and Gianluigi Buffon in June 2016 and November 2016 respectively, and was later broken in March 2017 by Buffon.

Coaching career
After his retirement from professional football, Astafjevs accepted an offer to become the assistant manager of Skonto Riga. At the start of 2012 he was appointed as the manager of Skonto-2, but was later succeeded by Tamaz Pertia. At the start of 2013 he was selected to be the assistant manager of Latvia national under-21 football team, coached by his former club and international team-mate Marians Pahars. On 11 July 2013, Pahars became the manager of Latvia national football team and chose Astafjevs to be one of his assistants. On 4 June 2014, Astafjevs became the manager of FK Jelgava. In April 2018 Astafjevs left the assistant manager's position of the Latvia national team, following the sacking of head coach Aleksandrs Starkovs.

In January 2019, Astafjevs was appointed as the new coach of the Pafos FC academy, taking charge of the U17 and U19 age groups. In 2020, he returned to Latvia as the head coach of the Latvia U17 team as well as the assistant head coach of FK Auda. In 2021, he again departed Latvia to return to Cyprus as assistant manager of Aris Limassol.

Honours
Skonto
 * Latvian Higher League (9): 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2010
 * Latvian Football Cup: 1992, 1995, 1997, 1998

Latvia
 * Baltic Cup: 1993, 1995, 2001, 2003, 2008

Individual
 * Virsliga top scorer: 1995
 * Latvian Footballer of the Year: 1995, 1996, 2007

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"Commons-based peer production" est un terme poussé par Yochai Benkler[1] professeur de l'école de droit a Havard. Ce terme décrit un nouveau model de production socio-économique dans le quel l'énergie creative de grand nombre de personnes est coordoné (habituelement avec l'aide d'internet) en large projets Principalement depourvu d'organisation hiérarchique traditionel. Ces projets sont souvant, mais pas toujours consu sans compensation financiere pour les contributeurs. Le terme est souvant interchanger avec le mot 'social production'.

Commons-based peer production is a term coined by Harvard Law School professor .[1] It describes a new model of socio-economic production in which the creative energy of large numbers of people is coordinated (usually with the aid of the Internet) into large, meaningful projects mostly without traditional hierarchical organization. These projects are often, but not always, conceived without financial compensation for contributors. The term is often used interchangeably with the term social production. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.242.221.106 (talk) 15:10, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Open Community
Hi, I am editing the article and reorganizing some ideas. Any feedback would be helpful. I am also wondering how the section on open community directly ties into commons-based peer production. I cannot find a clear link between this section and the previous one. Rachael2 (talk) 20:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

New sections for the article
I added two new sections to this articles: Principles, Advantages. These parts were missing and I believe by adding these sections to the article, the concept of common based peer production is more meaningful and clear ( it serves the flow of the content better ).

Another change was finding the relative reference for the "Open Community Project" section which was missing for a long time, now the article looks more legitimate since it includes proper citations.

Minor editing such as word revision was done as well to improve the overall quality of the article. Few concepts in article were linked to other wiki pages for more information and clarity.

Your feedback is highly appreciated. Amin Saket16:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)16:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Proposed merger
I placed the mergefrom template on this page, because I believe the uncapitalised title follows convention, but I'm not certain. Alan Pascoe 17:20, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Merge This is a text book example of a page needing merging. Someone forgot to check if a similar page already existed. --David Youngberg 04:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Invention
I prefer wiki invention, where the users say what they need and appear free standards about how to obtain it. See OScar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.87.96.65 (talk) 14:59, 13 May 2007 (UTC).

Pirate Bay link in examples section
I'm not sure peer sharing is the same as peer production. Peer production is about creation, not pirating - should this be removed? --CharlesC (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Commons-based peer production vs peer production
I did read the articles, but don't understand the difference, could somebody please clarify? Teilolondon (talk) 08:05, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * How about an example? Say two people in a village wanted to write a book together. Peer production is if they went to each other's houses and collaborated to publish a book to the rest of the village. Commons-based peer production would be if they went every day to the public square to write their book, and asked anyone who showed up to help. In other words: peer production is simple group collaboration in any format. Commons-based peer production is peer production in an open commons. Make more sense? The reason there are separate articles is because peer production covers really wide territory, while commons-based peer production is really quite specific in how it works. Steven Walling  08:34, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

This example is complete rubbish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.110.32 (talk) 13:47, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Relationship to crowdsourcing
I have noticed some confusion in the popular and academic press regarding the relationship between commons-based peer production and crowdsourcing, and I wonder if it may be worthwhile to describe this relationship, especially because this article links to crowdsourcing but does not provide any context. There seem to be three possible interpretations. The first is that both are identical. The second is that CBPP is a subset of crowdsourcing. The third is that both terms overlap, but are not identical, because crowdsourcing may include more simplistic and hierarchical actions that may not contribute to a larger project, while CBPP could be performed by a defined group of individuals. This of course depends on one's interpretation of both terms. Ideas? GhostModern (talk) 03:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

crowdsourcing
Crowdsourcing is a bullshit corporate term. Commons production or protection is grounded in the work of Elinor Ostrom. If you are going to use economic terms you might care to reference the giants in the field. But the quality of this particular entry fits with "crowdsourcing" better than production and protection of the commons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.56.95.221 (talk) 17:19, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Merge from Open community
In 2010 the article on open community was merged and redirected here, without any discussion. Should it be restored? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:41, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Needs definition of Commons
I think this article would benefit from a clearer definition of commons.--Tcgriffin (talk) 00:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

==FLOK society section This should not be deleted but marked as a “scam” (hence for an encyclopedia reported under “trivia") ... all the evidence I can gather show that this was never an Ecuadorian government plan and that some proponents of commons-based peer-production were probably tricked into contributing to the scheme -- see http://www.cookreport.com/pdfs/July-augCRecuadorfinal.pdf and https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/permalink/769370916440423/) --Ptroxler (talk) 22:19, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Bitcoin and commons-based peer production
The P2PValue has provided some very nice diagrams, but, with all due respect, they may be giving undue weight to certain ideas, namely Bitcoin. Its relevance is unclear and unsupported by the body of the article, which does not mention it at all. Moreover, the article talks about the anti-capitalist nature of commons-based peer production, and Bitcoin therefore seems unsuitable. I however don't know how to address this without editing it out and making sure the diagrams reflect more what the article is saying. BeŻet (talk) 12:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Is CBPP really opposed to capitalism?
The article has several sections that claim that CBPP is some kind of alternative or growth-path out of capitalism. It seems to me that CBPP would work equally well in capitalism, communism, socialism, feudalism, fascism, etc; it is orthogonal to the economic model of the underlying society. If other editors agree, then let's straighten out this kink in the article. Gnuish (talk) 19:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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Yeshewuawork
According to Google, the term doesn't exist outside of Wikipedia. At least not on the internet... JoanneB 17:23, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete It's a dictionary Definition, Wiki is not a dictionary. CastAStone 18:17, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
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Paul Jacobs

Paul Jacobs is the name of:

 * Paul Jacobs (activist) (1918–1978), American activist
 * Paul Jacobs and the Nuclear Gang, documentary film about the above
 * Paul Jacobs (Flemish writer) (born 1949), Flemish author
 * Paul Jacobs (ice hockey) (1894–1973), professional hockey player
 * Paul Jacobs (composer), American songwriter
 * Paul Jacobs (organist) (born 1977), American organist
 * Paul Jacobs (pianist) (1930–1983), American pianist
 * Paul Jacobs (politician), American politician
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