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The White Bone

The White Bone is a Canadian novel written by Barbara Gowdy and published by HarperCollins in 1999. It was nominated for the Scotiabank Giller Prize in 1998. Sometimes compared to Richard Adams's Watership Down, it is an adult fantasy story about animals—in this case, African elephants—in a realistic natural setting but given the ability to speak to one another throughout the book. Subsequently, the elephants are given anthropomorphized personalities and have created their own religion, folklore, and customs, all based on the author's research on elephant behavior.

The novel includes a map of the section of African landscape that the story occurs in, as well as several family trees of the elephant characters and a glossary of terms used in elephant speech (unlike in Watership Down, the characters do not speak their own language, but use certain words to define objects not found in their language, such as "big grass" for bamboo and "delirium" for estrus).

Plot
The novel is told entirely from the points of view of its elephant characters. Much like real elephants, all female elephants (cows) and prepubescent males (bulls) live in matrilineal family groups, and mature male elephants are loners. The main characters in the novel are mostly from the "She-S" family, into which Mud, a young cow who is pregnant with her first calf, has been adopted. Mud is blessed with visionary powers and can occasionally see into the future. Thrown into a drought, with human poachers becoming increasingly common, Mud and her family must find the legendary "Safe Place" where drought and poachers do not come. The "White Bone," a rib of a newborn elephant, is rumored to be lying somewhere in the savannah and is said to point in the direction of the Safe Place. After a slaughter which leaves most of Mud's adoptive family dead and her best friend, Date Bed, missing, Mud and the remaining She-S elephants set off to find the White Bone and Date Bed.

The novel is rather nihilistic, as it is unlikely that any of the characters ever reach the Safe Place, with a few possible exceptions. Hence, it is considered a powerful social commentary on the plight of endangered animals, showing their situation to be somewhat hopeless. Another main theme of the novel is the importance of family ties, and the fact that Mud, as an adopted member of the She-S family, feels alienated from the other elephants throughout.

Another theme of the novel acknowledges the old saying, "An elephant never forgets." The novel implies that elephants will eventually go senile, but as most are killed before their prime, the saying is usually true. The elephants are capable of remembering every minute detail of their lives, unlike humans, who tend to remember important events most strongly.

Characters
Mud (She-Spurns) A young female elephant. Mud was abandoned by her birth family, the She-M's, as an infant, and was taken in by a somewhat reluctant She-S family. Although she is able to have visions of future events, and current events taking place elsewhere, she is rather sullen and antisocial and is only readily accepted by several members of the She-S's. Recently impregnated for the first time, Mud is shown trying to come to terms with her pregnancy in the middle of a drought and her feelings of alienation in her adoptive family throughout. As the story progresses, she finds herself needing to become hard-hearted and willing to make sacrifices as she becomes more and more concerned with finding the Safe Place, while her companions remain focused on finding a missing elephant, Date Bed, and lose willpower, becoming emaciated and hopeless. Her emotional abandonment of Date Bed is one of the turning points in the novel.

Date Bed A young female elephant. Date Bed is Mud's best friend and a member of the She-S family. She is the family's "mind talker," and is able to read the minds of not only elephants but of animals of other species. She is pleasant, eloquent, and soft-spoken, and aware of the fact that she loves a male elephant, Tall Time, in a way that is unnatural for her species; however, she is sexually immature and has never mated. When she becomes separated from her family during a slaughter, she spends much of the book trying to find them again, as well as the White Bone.

Tall Time A male elephant. Tall Time is a tall and lanky loner elephant who mentally collects and categorises all known omens and superstitions. He goes off on his own to find the Lost Ones, a troupe of Forest elephants, in order to gain information from them on omens and the White Bone. He is the father of Mud's baby, and loves Mud to an unnatural extent, wanting to start a herd with her although this custom is unheard of amongst elephants.

She-Snorts A female elephant. She-Snorts is an alluring, droll, sensual elephant, with the most powerful sense of smell in the family, and the mother of Date Bed. Not used to being given responsibilities, she finds herself the matriarch of her family herd after all of her older family members are killed in a slaughter. As the novel progresses, she becomes more grave and severe, and more single-mindedly focused on finding her daughter. Pregnant with another calf, she bargains with Me-Me the cheetah to show them the way to the Safe Place in exchange for the calf she will soon give birth to; this becomes an important plot element of the book.

She-Soothes A female elephant. She-Soothes is a physically tough but kind-hearted elephant, and as the nurse cow of the family, she is an effective healer. Although optimistic, she is not sentimental and uses the phrase, "What's done is done!" after any tragedy. This phrase becomes a way for herself and Mud to ward off grief as the story progresses. She is the mother of the partially crippled infant, Bent, and is fiercely protective of him. She likes the sound of her name so much that she refers to herself in the third person.

She-Screams A female elephant. She-Screams is a repulsive elephant, both in looks and in personality, and the main cause of tension in her family. She is banished from the family by She-Snorts for suggesting that Date Bed is dead and strongly hates Mud, but tries to gain acceptance after claiming to have inherited the wisdom from a family of slaughtered elephants she encountered while banished. Although she is highly unpleasant, Mud cannot help feeling some kinship for She-Screams, because both are out-of-place in the She-S family.

Torrent An old male elephant. Torrent is the wisest and most knowledgeable and proud elephant in the novel, and is a friend of Tall Time's. He is known for being very soulful and valiant, although he starts to become senile from his old age.

Me-Me A female cheetah with a taste for baby elephant. Me-Me cannot communicate with the She-S's through words, so through body language she establishes that she can show the elephants where the Safe Place is, in exchange for She-Snorts's and Mud's unborn calves.

Bent A baby male elephant, and the son of She-Soothes. Bent is the innocent voice of the group, but he is slightly crippled and becomes a liability as the story progresses, although he is fiercely defended by his family.

Hail Stones A young male elephant, and the last surviving member of the She-D family, Hail Stones joins Mud and her companions on their search for the White Bone and Date Bed. He acts somewhat like Date Bed or a young Torrent, as he speaks eloquently and tries to comfort the She-S family even after the death of his entire family, without complaint. Mud finds herself drawn to him.

Swamp A young male elephant. He is rather antisocial and sardonic, but is surprisingly motivated to help Hail Stones after the two become friends. However, he shows little attachment to the rest of his family, especially his mother, She-Screams.

She-Scares A female elephant, and Mud's adoptive mother. She is one of the few elephants of the She-S family who accepts Mud.

The Lost Ones A family of elephants, also known as the We-F's, who are forest elephants. They are self-centered, and all possess visionary capabilities.

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Wikipedia:Peer review/Virtual Magic Kingdom/archive1

Virtual Magic Kingdom
I think this is a great article, full of useful technical and historical information about an interesting game. I've put a lot of work into it. I'd like to know whether y'all feel it's ready to become a FA candidate, or whether there's more than can be done to improve it. - Brian Kendig 02:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Two major things: an inordinate number of lists (should be converted to prose when possible) and no references (which is necessary for FA). Pentawing 06:15, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * What would be a way around these problems? I don't see a way to turn those lists into prose without making a mess of them, and there really are no references on the subject other than the game itself. - Brian Kendig 12:14, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * What I find works sometimes, at least in cases where the lists are not readily convertible into prose, is to use multi-column tables, usually with prettytable to set the style. — RJH 14:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Concerning references, how about a published game guide and outside reviews? The point behind references is that one can be assured that the game actually does exist and that others can vouch for it. Pentawing 21:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

The above seems fairly straightforward - anyone have any other constructive comments on the article? - Brian Kendig 03:49, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Generally neat article... I think once some of the lists get turned into prose it will be a better reading length too Ryan Norton T 07:07, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Lead too short - should be at least two solid paragraphs for an article this size (see WP:LEAD)
 * 2) A lot of really short paragraphs and some one-sentence paragraphs. Long paragraphs generally == good flow. Especially pronounced in "Games" where its basically a list masquarading as sepearte paragraphs :).
 * 3) "Items that can belong to an avatar" etc. - could use some more description of the items
 * 4) Some parts read like a game/HOWTO guide, like "Characters". Someone once told me that an encyclopedia is not "prescriptive" but is "descriptive".... hope that helps.
 * 5) Of course the list thing mentioned by the previous reviewer

 * A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style. If you would find such a review helpful, please click here. Thanks, APR t 06:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/


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Blastema

A blastema (Greek βλάστημα, "offspring" ) is a mass of cells capable of growth and regeneration into organs or body parts. The changing definition of the word "blastema" has been reviewed by Holland (2021). A broad survey of how blastema has been used over time brings to light a somewhat involved history. The word entered the biomedical vocabulary in 1799 to designate a sinister acellular slime that was the starting point for the growth of cancers, themselves, at the time, thought to be acellular, as reviewed by Hajdu (2011, Cancer 118: 1155-1168). Then, during the early nineteenth century, the definition broadened to include growth zones (still considered acellular) in healthy, normally developing plant and animal embryos. Contemporaneously, cancer specialists dropped the term from their vocabulary, perhaps because they felt a term connoting a state of health and normalcy was not appropriate for describing a pathological condition. During the middle decades of the nineteenth century, Schleiden and Schwann proposed the cell theory, and Remak and Virchow insisted that cells can only be generated by division of existing ones. Consequently, the conception of the blastema changed from acellular to cellular. More specifically, the term came to designate a population of embryonic cells that gave rise to a particular tissue. In short, the term blastema started being used to refer to what modern embryologists increasingly began calling a rudiment or Anlage. Importantly, the term blastema did not yet refer to a mass of undifferentiated-looking cells that accumulates relatively early in a regenerating body part. For instance, Morgan (1900), does not use the term even once in his classic book, “Regeneration.” It was not until the eve of World War 1 that Fritsch (1911, Zool. Jb. Zool. Physiol. 30: 377-472) introduced the term blastema in the modern sense, as now used by contemporary students of regeneration. Currently, the old usage of blastema to refer to a normal embryological rudiment has largely disappeared (except for describing aspects of development of the kidney and, to a lesser extent, the adrenal gland).

During the last century, blastemas were thought to be composed of undifferentiated pluripotent cells, but recent research indicates that in some organisms blastemas may retain memory of tissue origin. They are typically found in the early stages of an organism's development such as in embryos, and in the regeneration of tissues, organs and bone.

Some amphibians and certain species of fish and two species of African spiny mice can produce blastemas as adults. For example, salamanders can regenerate many organs after their amputation, including their limbs, tail, retina and intestine. Most animals, however, cannot produce blastemas.

Limb regeneration
When the limb of the salamander is cut off, a layer of epidermis covers the surface of the amputation site. In the first few days after the injury, this wounded epidermis transforms into a layer of signaling cells called the Apical Epithelial Cap (AEC), which has a vital role in regeneration. In the meantime, fibroblasts from the connective tissue migrate across the amputation surface to meet at the center of the wound. These fibroblasts multiply to form a blastema, the progenitor for a new limb.

An important model organism for studying limb regeneration is Ambystoma mexicanum, a neotenic salamander with exceptional regenerative capabilities. Limb regeneration in these salamanders involves the blastema. Blastema cells, during limb regeneration, experience DNA double-strand breaks and thus require a form of DNA repair referred to as homologous recombination that deals with double-strand breaks. Additionally, blastema cells probably undergo epigenetic alterations during limb regeneration.

Blastema cells can differentiate into any cell type with the exception of neurons. This means axons which are cut can be regrown by blastema cells, but if the soma of a neuron is damaged then a new neuron is unable to be created. As a result, neural organs cannot be regenerated.

Formation
As stated above, there are several different types of organisms that can utilize a regenerative blastema as an adult. These organisms include urodele amphibians, zebrafish, and planarian flatworms as major creatures of study. In flatworms, the formation of a blastema needs adult stem cells that are called neoblasts for any type of regeneration to occur. Flatworms use these undifferentiated cells for regeneration after paracrine factors can provide signals from the surface of the wound. The cells in the blastema are also referred to as clonogenic neoblasts (cNeoblasts) that are able to move to the site of the wound and reform the tissue. In urodele amphibians, studies suggest that dedifferentiation of cells leads to the formation of a blastema that is able to form multiple tissue types after the amputation of their tails and wound healing occurs. In zebrafish, and in general, it seems as if experts are still uncertain of what truly forms the blastema. However, two common theories that have often been expressed are cell dedifferentiation and the recruitment of stem cells to the wound site.

Signaling pathways
There are several different signaling pathways that have been shown to be involved with limb regeneration through the formation of the blastema. In flatworms, studies suggest that after using RNA interference Smad-beta-catenin-1 was found to set up the anterior-posterior axis. Inhibitions to this results in reversed polarity across the blastema. Urodeles use hedgehog for dorsal-ventral patterning of their regenerating tail and its surrounding tissue. This was suggested by its inhibition leading to reduced blastemas. Zebrafish seem to use IGF signalling in limb regeneration as its inhibition led to clues of them being required for blastema function.

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Mary Walker

Mary Walker may refer to:
 * Mary Richardson Walker (1811–1877), American missionary
 * Mary Chase Walker (1828–1899), American schoolteacher, pioneer, and suffragette
 * Mary Edwards Walker (1832–1919), American physician and Medal of Honor recipient
 * Mary Ann Walker (1845–1888), Whitechapel murder victim
 * Mary Hardway Walker (1848–1969), Early civil rights activist and educator, resident of Chattanooga USA.
 * Mary Lily Walker (1863–1913), Scottish social reformer
 * Mary Broadfoot Walker (1888–1974), British physician
 * Mary Willis Walker (1942–2023), American crime fiction author
 * Mary L. Walker (born 1948), American lawyer
 * Mary Walker, the alter-ego of the comic book character Typhoid Mary (comics)
 * Mary Walker (rodeo) (born 1959), American former world champion barrel racer
 * Mary Shore Walker (1882–1952), American mathematician
 * Mary Hardway Walker (1848–1969), one of last surviving American slaves
 * Mary Adelaide Walker, English travel writer

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Talk:Taipei American School student organizations

Couch Potato's Sanctuary
Is this a real Upper School club? --BenjaminTsai 02:51, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I doubt it - the user that added it was adding a lot of other vandalism and nonsense to wikipedia. Stillnotelf 03:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I am currently a senior at TAS and I can tell you that this is a new club (as of 2005) which shows a classic movie every other Friday. For the last few months, though, there haven't been any meetings. I don't know why. -- TAS Student 19:33, 03 December 2005 (UTC)

Japanese Korean Culture Club
Japanese Korean Culture Club sounds a bit odd to me. Can someone verify its existance? --BenjaminTsai 02:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * It exists. I don't know how popular it is (probably not very), but it does exist. -- TAS Student 19:35, 03 December 2005 (UTC)

Kevin Liou Club
Kevin Liou Club? That just does not sound right...is there really a club called that? I know that there is a Derek Lee Club, for people who like baseball, but then Kevin liou Club???

Clubs, Clubs, Clubs...which are real? Which are fake?
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Alta Rockefeller Prentice

Alta Rockefeller Prentice (April 12, 1871 – June 21, 1962) was an American philanthropist and socialite, daughter of Standard Oil co-founder John D. Rockefeller.

Early life
Alta was born on April 12, 1871, in Cleveland in Cuyahoga County, Ohio. She was the third daughter of John Davison Rockefeller (1839–1937) and Laura Celestia "Cettie" (née Spelman) Rockefeller (1839–1915). Among her siblings was Bessie Rockefeller, who married psychologist Charles Augustus Strong; Edith Rockefeller, who married Harold Fowler McCormick; and John D. Rockefeller Jr., who married Abby Aldrich and Martha Baird. Her father was a founder of the Standard Oil Company and, later in life, became a prominent philanthropist.

Inheritance
In 1917, her father gifted 12,000 shares of Standard Oil of Indiana (today known as Amoco), worth approximately $9,000,000 (equivalent to $0 today), to a trust fund with Alta receiving the income except for $30,000 directed to her husband. By 1930, the original 12,000 shares had turned into 356,000 shares through stock splits and dividends paid with stocks.

Married life
On January 17, 1901, Alta was married to Colonel Ezra Parmalee Prentice (1863–1955) by the Rev. Dr. William Faunce, the President of Brown University and former pastor of the Fifth Avenue Baptist Church. The wedding, which took place on the wide landing of the staircase in the main hall of her parents brownstone in Manhattan located at 4 West 54th Street, had originally been planned as an elaborate church wedding but was changed to a quiet affair at the Rockefeller home due to the recent death of Alta's young nephew, John Rockefeller McCormick, from scarlet fever. Prentice, an attorney, was the son of Sartell Prentice and Mary Adeline (née Isham) Prentice and his maternal grandfather was Pierpoint Isham, a justice of the Vermont Supreme Court and a direct descendant of Rev. James Pierpont, the founder of Yale University. His uncle, Edward Swift Isham, was the law partner of Robert Todd Lincoln. Together, Alta and Ezra lived at 5 West 53rd Street in Manhattan (bought by her father for the couple as a wedding present) and were the parents of three children:

 * John Rockefeller Prentice (1902–1972), a Yale and Yale Law School graduate who became a cattle breeder.
 * Mary Adeline Prentice (1907–1981), a 1934 Vassar College graduate who married Benjamin Davis Gilbert (1907–1992).
 * Spelman Prentice (1911–2000), founder of the Prenalta Corporation which ran oil and gas operations.

She founded Alta House (c. 1900), a settlement house in Little Italy in Cleveland, Ohio, which is named in her honor.

In 1910, Alta and Ezra bought 1,400 acres (5.7 km2) of land near Williamstown, Massachusetts. Elm Tree House, the Prentices' 72-room summer home on Mount Hope Farm, was completed in 1928 at a cost of $400,000 (equivalent to $0 today), and their estate became "the most valuable estate in the Berkshire Hills." In the 1930s and 1940s, several geneticists were employed by Ezra to develop more profitable farm animals, particularly cattle and poultry. At that time, Mount Hope Farm was one of the most outstanding experimental farms in the United States.

Alta died at Midtown Hospital in New York City in June 1962 at the age of 91, the last surviving child of John D. Rockefeller. She was interred at Dellwood Cemetery in Manchester Village, Vermont. She left her New York City brownstone to her neighbor, the Museum of Modern Art, who tore it down and built a new wing of the museum. Her Berkshires property was willed to New York's Lenox Hill Hospital. Shortly thereafter, Elm Tree House was purchased by its current owner, Williams College.

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User:Hklinke

Harald Klinke, Ph.D., art-historian, specialized in American painting, art theory and Digital Art History. I am the founding editor-in-chief of the International Journal for Digital Art History.

My contributions

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User talk:Caledonia~enwiki

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Bratsche talk 02:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Bratsche talk 03:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires. Bratsche talk 03:18, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Caledonia. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Caledonia~enwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name. If you think you might own all of the accounts with this name and this message is in error, please visit Special:MergeAccount to check and attach all of your accounts to prevent them from being renamed.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

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MediaWiki talk:Revertpage

Obvious vandalism proposal
It was proposed to change the text of this;
 * Reverted edits by $2 to last version by $1

to
 * Reverted obvious vandalism by $2 to last version by $1

See Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Using_rollback for current discussion. ∞ Who ? ¿ ? 02:54, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Additional comment ability
Would it be possible to add the ability for further comment using this function?

Currently using, user script godmode-light.js. Proposed, incorrectly, at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_rollback_privileges

The editor of the resulting prior version ($1) is minimally important to me. See examples:
 * Auto: ( Reverted edits by 203.122.53.88 to last version by Dan East )
 * Hand: ( rv linkspam by 64.107.9.244 -- try link at List of news aggregators )

Necessary, is the ability to add a few words to the revert action (see Yoda). It should not be limited to vandalism, it is a useful ability.

∴ here…♠ 09:42, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Perhaps some code from User:Jnothman/afd helper ? (vote+comment of AfDs?) ∴ here…♠ 10:12, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

New Version
This may be questioned, but I added links to the offender's user page and talk page. Though I think I'll just make it their talk page, in fact I'll change that now... R  e  dwolf24  (talk)  Attention Washingtonians!  08:54, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

 * K, done. The reason I did this is so we can click the link to get to the offender's talk page and warn them about whatever vandalism or test they just did. Anyone can revert me. R  e  dwolf24  (talk)  Attention Washingtonians!  08:57, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
 * No, page is locked, you got spoiled by admin powers :) -- Cool CatTalk 07:51, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
 * How about "Reverted edits by $2 (User, Talk) to last version by $1" ? -- Cool CatTalk 15:36, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Block link
I disagree with the recently introduced link to special/blockip. Linking to the user's talk page was a good idea because that is usually the first place to go after a rollback, and it's a useful link to any user. The special/blockip page, in contrast, is useless to all but about 800 users on Wikipedia, while only saving an admin one click (because there's a link to "block this user" off the talk page) every one-in-fifty-or-so (or is it one-in-a-hundred) times that a rollback is followed with a block without visiting the user's talk page (and it's polite to go to the user's talk page anyway to leave a message that they've been blocked). Besides which, would a better approach not be to devise some clever JavaScript to convert the "talk" link on history/contributions pages into a "talk|block" link-pair, and which admins could install in their user/monobook.js file? --RobertG ♬ talk 17:04, 12 January 2006 (UTC) updated RobertG ♬ talk 17:22, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Sort of agreed. I have no problem with the block link itself, but the introduction of a "SysOp" link is bad. If a user tries to click on the block link (and doesn't have admin access) they'll be told they can't perform that action and given a link to an article discussing administrative access. (I was going to copy/paste the exact message, but apparently the page auto-forwards you after a brief period to the main page). In other words, the "SysOp" link is redundant: the first time a non-admin clicks on the "block" link they'll figure out that it's not something for them to use. —Locke Cole • t • c 17:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I also mostly agree with RobertG. It's exceedingly rare that a user would be treated as "shoot on sight" and blocked as soon as their name appears in the rollback link. The vast majority of the time, either a warning or a "You are blocked" message will be left on the talk page (where there's already a "Block User" link). Thus, the advantage of saving one click is pretty minimal. The fact that non-admins may be confused by the block link means that the downside outweighs the upside. However, I could see some use in having a software feature that would allow admins to enable such a link. Carbonite | Talk 17:30, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Format of username
Why not use the conventional user (i.e., ""—obviously substed, because transcluding potentially unprotected templates into MediaWiki: space is An Incredibly Bad Thing) instead of what we have now? Generally the username goes to the userpage, so what's wrong with making the contribs link explicit? —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 06:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Too much fucking clutter. If I reverted Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington's edits, the summary would probably be truncated. — freak(talk) 22:13, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Reverts could refer to the entire MediaWiki version?
editprotect "Reverted edits by $2 (talk) to last version by $1" → "Reverted edits by $2 (talk) to last revision by $1"

Please do not use version in revertpage edit summary. It refers to the entire MediaWiki version, not only regarding the diff revisions. — N96 01:54, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Huh? Just because we're using a specific version of the mediawiki software doesn't mean that the definition of the word "version" goes out the window!  I think that most people realize that the "version" of the page is not referring to the MediaWiki version that Wikipedia was running at the time that the page was edited :-) — M ETS 501 (talk) 02:33, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

 * I have to agree with M ETS 501; I don't see a need for this change. Personally, I've never even considered that version could refer to anything related to MediaWiki. -  auburn pilot  talk  17:16, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

 * I can see what N96 means, in that version could refer to the version of the MediaWiki Software, but I do think that while being pretty obvious to most, there could be a few editors, like N96, who see it differently. Surely it should be clear to as many as possible? Stwalkerster  talk 19:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

 * It seems like a harmless change, and revision is quite clear, so I did it. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:12, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Cheers; revision seems harmlessly unambiguous. However 'version' is also used in things like the pink 'This is an archived version of this page' message, which we may want to change for consistency. Errr, that would be MediaWiki:Revision-info and MediaWiki:editingold. 64.126.24.12 16:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And done. (the IP above is me). -- nae'blis 05:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Formatting
Change from  to , will be good. --JayTur1 (Contribs) 15:23, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree. There is a good reason to link to the user whose changes were reverted, but very little reason to link to $1 who is usually any random editor ∴ AlexSm 06:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I see your point. --JayTur1 (Contribs) 21:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

AES
Editprotected Can an administrator add the AES arrow to this automatic edit summary? -- IRP ☎ 22:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Potentially controversial request - need consensus. --- RockMFR 01:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Sounds like a good idea to me. The rollback summary is listed at WP:AES; this seems appropriate.  I am not sure why it is not already there.  —  Jake   Wartenberg  00:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * It's not there because rollback predates AES by a long shot. I'm not convinced it belongs, though.  AES says "An edit summary that links to this page via a left-pointing arrow (←) probably was left blank by the user and automatically filled in by the MediaWiki software."  That's not the case with rollback, in which there's never an opportunity to fill in an edit summary.  It really is a special case; if anything, there could be a link to Rollback feature. Chick Bowen 03:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * That is not a bad idea. Do we want to do the arrow and a link to WP:ROLLBACK?  —  Jake   Wartenberg  03:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * What about its own arrow, like ↔? That way it's clearer what it is. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  06:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Actually, if you use User:Gracenotes/rollback.js, you do have an opportunity to fill in an edit summary. -- IRP ☎ 15:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I like Chick Bowen's idea, although I don't think a different arrow is required, since the arrow points both ways and doesn't make much sense in that respect. With regard to Gracenotes' .js page: that's a customised user script and is immaterial to the way rollback functions by default. — Anonymous Dissident  Talk 09:32, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment: If it is not an automatic edit summary, then it should be removed from the list at WP:AES. If it is listed there, it needs to have the AES arrow, otherwise it doesn't make sense. -- IRP ☎ 20:09, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment: Either it needs to be removed from WP:AES or have an AES arrow added to it. Right now, it is confusing because it is listed at WP:AES but it has no AES arrow.

Administrator, see the posts above. -- IRP ☎ 21:49, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

 * I see, but I don't see a clear consensus for a specific form. In any case, before this is change is made I'd like to adapt the Huggle config so that the reverts are still recognized as reverts (preferably a day before the actual change is made). Is
 * the version that can be agreed upon? Amalthea  19:02, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * the version that can be agreed upon? Amalthea  19:02, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

 * No, however, the code above is very close. I was proposing:
 * If that code is not implemented soon, then I would recommend removing this edit summary from the list at WP:AES to reduce confusion. -- IRP ☎ 20:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If that code is not implemented soon, then I would recommend removing this edit summary from the list at WP:AES to reduce confusion. -- IRP ☎ 20:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

 * From what I see above a number of people would rather point it at WP:RBK. I tend to agree, if we have a dedicated page for the function we should link there. In any case, I don't really find it confusing that it is listed at WP:AES. It is an automatic edit summary, with a different format. The same goes for the "new section" edit summaries. -- Amalthea 20:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with pointing to Rollback. -- lucasbfr  talk 15:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

 * I disagree with it pointing to WP:RBK. That would be just like the having arrow of "←Blanked the page" point to Blanking a page. -- IRP ☎ 21:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Not really, Blanking a page is an essay, whereas rollback is a guideline page. -- lucasbfr  talk 06:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

 * How about using: ? Having the word "reverted" link to it appears more correct. -- IRP ☎ 22:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Great idea! Stupid thought though: we might want to poke the technical village pump too, because I'm sure some tools use the edit summary to detect a rollback. I'll do it. -- lucasbfr  talk 09:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Personally I don't see the need for any extra links or cute little arrows. The important information is whose edits were reverted and to which version, and that's already there. An arrow linking to WP:RBK might be useful to someone somewhere, possibly; an arrow to WP:AES certainly not (WP:AES talks only about edit summaries filled in by the software when someone leaves the edit summary box blank - clearly this is not what happens with rollback). Linking to both is just excessive linkage IMO but really either seems superfluous at best and confusing at worst. "If it isn't broke, fix it until it is"... wait, that's not how it goes. – Steel 13:17, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

 * If that's the case, then there would be no arrow on the "new section" automatic edit summary. -- IRP ☎ 20:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

 * It's similar to the others in a way that rollback isn't. Though this is really tangential to the point. – Steel 22:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

 * If it's not an automatic edit summary, then why is it listed at WP:AES? -- IRP ☎ 22:49, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

 * ✅ -- lucasbfr  talk 08:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

This should be undone. We do not need edit summaries being stuffed up with bluelinks.  Majorly  talk  14:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't see consensus for the arrow's addition, and it should be explained that the purpose of WP:AES is to clarify that a linked summary (which often indicates an inappropriate act) was not typed by the user as a means of bragging about a misdeed (which might actually have been a well-meaning test edit). This is not an issue with rollback, as anyone with the function enabled should be familiar enough with Wikipedia practices to not perform such edits.

There really isn't a need for the rollback summary to be listed on that page, incidentally. —David Levy 14:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Dunno, I see your point on AES, but as a summary created by the software it makes sense having it listed too. That's an other discussion though, since rollback was removed from the AES page it makes no sense having the link. Actually, 1 user disagreeing and 4 agreeing looks like a consensus to me ;)) -- lucasbfr  talk 09:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

 * The page's purpose is not to list "[summaries] created by the software"; it's to document automatic edit summaries that are otherwise likely to be mistaken for deliberate declarations of vandalism (a problematic misunderstanding before the WP:AES link was added). However, I didn't regard the inclusion of other automatic summaries as problematic until this issue arose.
 * To what are you referring when you mention "1 user disagreeing and 4 agreeing"? —David Levy 11:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Also note that previous discussion regarding the WP:AES link's inclusion in MediaWiki:Undo-summary (which actually can be triggered by inexperienced users, though not as readily as other automatic edit summaries can be) resulted in a link to WP:UNDO (in the same format as the current link to WP:RBK) instead. —David Levy 14:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Agree with Majorly. I see no purpose in this, except the fact that edit summaries are being stuffed with blue links. Garion96 (talk) 13:13, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

 * For the record, I don't particularly care whether the word "Reverted" serves as a link to WP:RBK. Either way is fine, in my opinion.  —David Levy 14:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 12 March 2014
Please replace the following things to shorten the length of the text that these default summaries take (allowing more room for custom summaries):
 * Save nine characters with:
 * Replace:  (Reverted)
 * With:  (Reverted)

 * Save five characters with:
 * Replace:  ($2)
 * With:  ($2)

 * Save twenty characters with:
 * Replace:  (pending)
 * With:  (pending)

For a total of 34 extra characters available for custom edit summaries.

— {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 18:49, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Please use Help:RV instead of H:REV. Since cross-namespace redirects currently have a shaky future, it would be a bad idea to bake this one into a bunch of edit summaries. Jackmcbarn (talk) 23:23, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I actually changed Pending changes to WP:PC, but then I undid it. Saving characters in the edit summary is a good thing, but I'm reluctant to use shortcuts, because then it locks us into using that shortcut for that particular page. Who's to say that we will still want to link WP:PC to Pending changes in 100 years' time? Also, as another slight downside, it means we would have to protect the redirects involved. I'm not totally opposed to this, but the lock-in aspect makes me think that it should at least be discussed first. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 03:41, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * , it already was discussed on Village pump (technical)/Archive 124 and consensus seemed to me that these shortenings should happen and even submitted a patch for other wikis that don't currently use the Special:Contribs shortcut.  There was no dispute about the rest of the shortcuts.  Also, this doesn't "lock us in" to anything.  If any of these shortcuts are deleted at a later date, there's no reason that this interface message can't just be updated again at that time. — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 13:27, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: Well, you can't expect me to know that there has been previous discussion if it's not on this page and you haven't linked to it in your request. And it would lock us in - if we changed the shortcuts at a later date, all the edit summaries that had used them would then have broken links. Not wanting to break the links would make people not want to change the shortcut target. As an alternative, I've done what some in that discussion had suggested and removed the links to the help pages altogether. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 13:56, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * For the record, my patch wasn't accepted. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:02, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Meh. I actually kinda like the link to Help:Reverting. Help:RV works just fine. I understand the paranoia of using shortcuts in edit summaries, which are written in stone. However, there are already a large amount of shortcuts that are being used, and changing one of them would break every single page that had the link. If we changed WP:COOL to something else, a reader would click on that, expecting to see "How to stay cool when the editing gets hot" but instead getting something else. It's not like we haven't gone through this already - see WP:B. "B" could mean anything - bot, bureaucrat, boldly editing, blocks, bans, etc. To fix that, the page uses this:

 * "WP:B" redirects here. You might be looking for Bureaucrats, Blocking policy, Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy or Be bold.

 * If we do have to change a shortcut, we'll need to use this solution. But the thing is, if we want a link so new editors don't need to pester the rollbacker with "How did you revert my edit??", we need to be bold, stop asking "What if...?", and do it! K6ka (talk | contribs) 16:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

 * Yes, we have hatnotes, but that's not quite the same as getting through to the target page in one click. And not getting through in one click will always be confusing for newer users. Anyway, now that this is done, I'd rather only change it again if there is a consensus to do so. If you would prefer a different version, perhaps you could open a new thread about it on WP:VPT, or open an RfC here? Best — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 09:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

 * Does that mean that it would be better to stick with Special:Contributions rather than Special:Contribs? — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 09:06, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No, using Special:Contribs here is fine. My request to do it was declined because it would have caused problems for other languages, because it tried to programmatically figure out the shortest name of the page. Jackmcbarn (talk) 11:48, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

PLURAL support
In a recent software change, I added PLURAL support for this message (and the related MediaWiki:Revertpage-nouser). That is not reflected here on enwiki yet because the message is customized, so it would probably be nice if an admin could change "edits" in these two messages to " NaN editss ". Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:53, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Izno (talk) 16:18, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Izno: Thanks! Could you do the same for MediaWiki:Revertpage-nouser too? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:30, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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