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Daniel Gross (journalist)

Daniel Gross (born August 4, 1967) is an American financial and economic journalist. He was the executive editor of strategy+business magazine from 2015 to January 2020 and was named editor-in-chief in February 2020.

Prior to joining strategy+business, Gross was a columnist and the global business editor at the Daily Beast (2012–2014). Previously, he was the economics editor and cohost of The Daily Ticker at Yahoo Finance (2010–2012), a columnist and a senior editor at Newsweek (2007–2010), a columnist at Slate (2002–2010), a columnist at The New York Times, and a reporter for the New Republic and Bloomberg News.

Gross wrote the "Contrary Indicator" column at Newsweek, the "Moneybox" column at Slate, and the "Economic View" column at The New York Times. He also has written cover stories for New York and The New York Times Magazine, and has contributed to Fortune, Wired, The Washington Post, and The Boston Globe. He appears regularly on media outlets such as MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, and NPR.

Between 1998 and 2007, Gross served as the editor of STERNBusiness, a semi-annual academic magazine on economics and management published by the New York University Stern School of Business. He was also a fellow at New America Foundation from 2001 to 2002.

Books

 * A Banker's Journey: How Edmond J. Safra Built a Global Financial Empire (Radius Publishing, 2022). (ISBN 978-1635767858)
 * Better, Stronger, Faster: The Myth of American Decline . . . and the Rise of a New Economy (Free Press, 2012). (ISBN 1451621280)
 * Dumb Money: How our Greatest Financial Minds Bankrupted the Nation (Free Press, 2009). (ISBN 1439159874)
 * Pop!: Why Bubbles Are Great For The Economy (Collins, 2007) (ISBN 0061151548)
 * The Generations of Corning: The Life and Times of a Global Corporation (Oxford University Press, 2001), co-authored with Davis Dyer (ISBN 0195140958)
 * Bull Run: Wall Street, the Democrats, and the New Politics of Personal Finance (PublicAffairs, 2000) (ISBN 1891620290)
 * Forbes Greatest Business Stories of All Time (Wiley, 1997) (ISBN 0471196533)

Select articles

 * "NBA Commissioner Adam Silver Has a Game Plan," Strategy+Business, April 30, 2018
 * "Why Artificial Intelligence Needs Some Emotional Intelligence," Strategy+Business, March 9, 2017
 * "The Myth of Decline: The U.S. is Stronger and Faster than Anywhere Else," Newsweek, April 30, 2012
 * "The Story of America's Amazing Comeback," Newsweek, April 8, 2010

Select awards

 * 2017 Folio "Eddie," B-to-B Column/Blog - Overall, Why Artificial Intelligence Needs Some Emotional Intelligence
 * 2017 ASBPE Gold Regional, Online, Podcast, Jonathan Tepperman Explains How to Fix the World's Thorniest Problems
 * 2016 Folio "Eddie," B-to-B Column/Blog – Banking/Business/Finance, What Companies Gain from Providing Free Lunch to Employees

Early life and family
A native of East Lansing, Michigan, Gross has Syrian-Jewish ancestry from his mother's side. He graduated from East Lansing High School (1985). He received his bachelor's degree in American history and government from Cornell University (1989), his master's degree in American history from Harvard University (1991), and an honorary PhD in humane letters from Lake Forest College.

He and his wife live in Westport, CT. The couple has two children.

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Tony Miles (Canadian football)

Tony Miles (born May 16, 1978) is a former Canadian Football League (CFL) wide receiver/punt returner.

College career
Miles attended Northwest Missouri State University. As a freshman, he was an All-MIAA first team selection at wide receiver, and a second team All-MIAA selection at running back. As a senior, he was a first team All-MIAA selection at both, wide receiver and kick returner. As a senior, he was an NCAA Division II All-American, a first team All-MIAA selection at both, wide receiver and kick returner, the MIAA offensive MVP, and one of five players from the NCAA Division II level selected to play in the Hula Bowl. He left school as the all-time career leader in receiving yards (3,079 yards), receiving touchdowns (30 TDs), punt return yardage (1,302 yards), and punts returned for touchdowns (three touchdowns).

Canadian Football League career
Miles began his CFL career with the Tiger-Cats in 2002, but was traded to the Toronto Argonauts in 2003 along with fullback Randy Bowles for defensive end Joe Montford. It was with the Argonauts that Miles won a Grey Cup championship in 2004. On February 16, 2008, Miles re-signed with the Tiger-Cats as a free agent.

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Just Do It (album)

Just Do It is the second album recorded by the Dutch pop rock music singer Kim-Lian. It was released on 28 October 2006 in the Netherlands. Three singles were released before the album: "Road to Heaven", "In Vain", and the download only single "Feel". Kim-Lian had recently broke with her label CMM Records in a dispute over the target audience of her music. She was subsequently signed by Bass Commander Records. She has produced this album herself.

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Talk:Harriet Miers Supreme Court nomination

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Why is this on Wikipedia? Isn't it basically Wikinews material? Isomorphic 00:36, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * This article parallels John Roberts Supreme Court nomination and hearings, which was continually updated through the summer, and now appears to be a valuable documentation of the nomination and confirmation process. Brandon39 03:41, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Education
Why do some authors insist upon not reavealing the name of the law degree earned by all law school graduates since 1971? The White House chose to refer to her degeee as a J.D.. Why should we use a generic term for this degree, when we do not do so for other degrees, such as D.D.S., M.B.A., M.D., or Ph.D?

There is currently a debate going on as to what is opinion and speculation in the education section.

I understand that there are people who want to say she didn't go to a law firm of comprabable quality to recent Justices, but her experience is comprabable to a number of past justices. Some have talked about US News and World Reports rankings. Others disagree as it wasn't published until 13 years after she graduated. Some have just referred to "top tier" law firms, but that has no specific meaning without references.

I feel as though comments such as "It is possible that an attempt to block Miers nomination on educational grounds would raise charges of elitism amongst the American public." is not fact. I do believe it to be true, but not fact. It is speculation.

"Moreover, Miers advisors are likely to have her stress that her differing credentials could be an advantage to the..." I would like to know what gives this person any idea what Miers advisors are going to do, and please share that SOURCE with the rest of us.

I added a speculation section to solve this issue.

Cbackert 22:41, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

The speculation section has been removed (not by me), thought I don't necessarily disagree with that.

Cbackert 06:21, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I wonder (and have commented on Talk:Harriet Miers if the whole education and qualifications sections aren't out of control. It seems to me that it really constitutes original research -- so far as I've seen, nobody has cited any sources of notable people outside of Wikipedia who are raising this as an important issue.  I'm not saying such people aren't out there; I haven't particularly gone looking.  But wouldn't it be more encyclopedic to say something like, "Senator So-and-so expressed concern over Miers' educational background, while former Solictor General so-and-so felt such concerns were unfounded."? Brandon39 06:29, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I have decided to be bold, and have pared down both the education and experience sections, referring readers to the bios of the other justices for further comparative information. Brandon39 01:30, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Perhaps given that things have died down the education section could be reworked. It just seems like this article is a bit vague when it says her credentials were objectively not sufficient. To anyone outside of law their is just no context given. I think it would be time to revisit the issue and essential add two lines. First, one regarding the fact that SMU is not a school that produces members of the court, and that members of the court with comiserate qualifications have not been nominated since the 1970's, and second, a line on the fact that indeed the law firm she worked at was not a big hitter by vault rankings (I think this is less important).

Brandon39 commentary is taken in account, with quotes by Reid and Krauthammer being thrown in. The first paragraph draws upon the educational findings of the subsequently quoted article, save for the Warren Burger section, which adds I believe relevant historical context. It does not constitute original research since is the dates of Burger’s term and his education are non-disputed issues which would be easily labeled public knowledge. Likewise for the biographies of the Justices after him, but I referenced them to be certain and indeed the contention is born out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.125.139 (talk) 23:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Edited "Controversy", due to Weasel words
Removed the section "controversy" (reproduced below) because it is is a textbook example of violations in Weasel wording. See Avoid weasel terms. Here is what has been removed:

 * Miers' nomination has drawn some criticism from both political sides. Liberals have claimed that her record is too thin, and that she likely is simply a spoils system appointee —nominated for her loyalty rather than her qualifications. Conservative pundits have expressed similar issues, but have focused on her responses to issues such as abortion and gay rights, expressing fear that she would in fact be a "sleeper" liberal candidate (like David Souter). Some critics have speculated that the conservative criticism is simply part of a preemptory campaign strategy to make the nominee appear more disagreeable to their ideology than she actually is. Both sides have complained that her experience may not be sufficient to qualify her for the position.

There are zero attributions nor citations to back up any of these sentences. Please feel free to put it back in with appropriate revisions.

4.228.90.109 15:26, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Approximately half of those are widely-held views that are repeated as the intro to every talk and news show currently out there. One question though.  It's not really appropriate to attribute some of these views to one particular news organization, as some of the views are very widely held.  So is it acceptable to quote news organizations who themselves are using weasel-words?  Can we say: The San Francisco Chronicle has said that "Bush sought to counter a tidal wave of accusations -- not from his Democratic opponents but from his own core political supporters -- that he has chosen a crony and a blank slate who lacks the experience, intellect and record to fill the pivotal seat of retiring centrist Justice Sandra Day O'Connor."?   --Interiot 15:58, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't think in general, based on Avoid weasel terms.  But even this specific example shows why it is probably not a good idea. It appears that the author of the SF Chronicle article    contradicts herself.  She writes "Bush sought to counter a tidal wave of accusations -- not from his Democratic opponents but from his own core political supporters -- that he has chosen a crony...".  But in the article, the only person who hints at, or mentions, cronyism is Randy Barnett:

 * "Randy Barnett, a libertarian law professor at Boston University, wrote a scathing piece in the Wall Street Journal blasting Miers' lack of experience in constitutional law and accusing Bush of cronyism."

 * Do libertarians comprise Bush's "core political supporters"? Based on the Wikipedia article bio about him, Barnett apparently represented Raich in Gonzales v. Raich, a case about medical marjiuana.  In a nutshell, Raich represented the pro-marijuana side; Gonzales is Alberto Gonzales, the Bush-appointed Attorney General, representing the Federal Government; according to the Wiki article Gonzales v. Raich, "The United States Federal law, via the Controlled Substances Act, does not recognize and opposes medical marijuana."  Barnett lost the case in the Supreme Court.

 * Thus, unless I'm misreading the article, the author of the article does not seem to provide evidence of a "tidal wave of accusations...from his own core political supporters...that he has chosen a crony...".

 * -4.228.213.210 17:49, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

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I don't know that it was a text book example of anything. It was a good hearted yet misguided attempt discuss an issue that is absolutely appropriate for this forum in a balanced way. I do agree it needed to be edited. It has since been updated.

Cbackert 18:36, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Religious Test
The people who are concerned are in fact "civil rights" activists. 214.13.4.151 19:39, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

New material - MSN article
This article may forecast an issue likely to arise in the confirmation process: Miers' stand on attorney fee caps questioned. The article suggests that Miers once advocated that the Texas Supreme Court should have the power to over-ride the legislature and limit attorney's fees. Of course, that's a state supreme court, and may be expected to have a more direct role in governance than the U.S. Supremes. BD2412 talk 03:13, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Source needed for repeal of sodomy laws.
Could someone provide a source for this section:

"Miers indicated on the questionnaire that she supported civil rights for gays, but opposed the repeal of the sodomy laws"

It's something that may go to the core of her character based upon the gravity of this statement, and is concerning to see it here without any reference to whatever spawned it. magicalspirits 03:58, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * It's all over the news, how about ? I would like to see the actual survey though, if anyone can dig it up. -Greg Asche (talk) 04:51, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

More Information
This looks like a good source of information for someone who wants to dive into it: UMich index of Miers documents NoSeptember  17:07, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Experience
I wasn't sure the reference to trials was accurate, because a contemporary litigator doesn't necessarily try cases. The first several sources I checked didn't state specifically that she had actually tried any cases. Then I found her responses to the Judiciary Committee questionnaire, and her description of her experience included the very point I had planned to make. She wrote:

 * I have litigated matters in the Texas state courts and in the Federal courts, predominantly those in Texas and the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. My appearances in court included arguing motions, conducting full evidentiary hearings and trials, and briefing and arguing appeals. Given the nature of a modern corporate litigation practice, however, many cases were resolved without actual litigation or without a trial, and therefore are not reported. (Questionnaire, p. 26)

I suspect that, like many other litigators, she's done comparatively few trials. That's why I modified that line to state that she had litigation experience, "including" trials. The prior wording over-emphasized what was probably a minor part of her work. JamesMLane 10:23, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Merge?
I think this should be trimmed down and merged with Harriet Miers and Defeated and withdrawn nominees to the Supreme Court of the United States. There simply is no longer justification for such detailed news-like coverage of this brief and aborted process. This isn't Wikinews...articles need to summarize years of events, not day-by-day. Postdlf 15:34, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed, especially given the fact there is a fairly thorough Harriet Miers biography. Mmmbeer 18:03, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * No merge. I'm actually not as sure as I was earlier. The article is already here, and it's somewhat informative--even if the event was brief. It's been newsworthy and it has a somewhat unique outcome. The event seems somewhat distinct from the person. I'm not sure merging is a good idea.  I think that for the time being, it ought to be it's own article.  Mmmbeer 20:34, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed - let's merge away! BD2412  talk 18:30, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Disagreed please don't merge this. Let progress organically.  'Wikipedia is not paper'.  Merging this will buff off the details.  Let's instead, allow this to grow.  Just begcause she has withdrawn her candidacy, does not mean the story is over or that the usefulness of this information has passed. Pedant 22:01, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe what needs to happen is that the redundant information, like her experience, ought to be moved to the biography. The event should be distinct.  This might clarify some of the point of both articles. mmm beer T / C / ? 00:54, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't merge. There's no reason we have to try to cram everything about a  person into one article.  Articles about notables like George W. Bush and John Kerry have multiple daughter articles to cover specific aspects of their lives at a level of detail that would be inappropriate for the main bio.  Miers's pre-nomination experience should indeed be covered in her bio, as Mmmbeer urges.  In addition, however, some aspects of her experience were important to the nomination process, and this article should give the basic information necessary to understand that aspect of the controversy.  Some readers, years from now, will be reading to find out how Supreme Court nominations are handled.  They'll want to know the factors that affected this incident, without having to go back to the Harriet Miers article. JamesMLane 07:39, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge per Postdlf Fawcett5 18:00, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge as per Postdlf, obviously after some editing. How a United States Supreme Court nomination (this should probably be moved to Harriet Miers United States Supreme Court nomination if unmerged, in the interest of strict accuracy) is handled is valuable information, but it's valuable information that ought to be at the article on the Supreme Court. Most of the information in here could be edited down in length significantly while still leaving the pertinent details, leading to a nice mergeable section. Lord Bob 15:42, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't merge as per JamesMLane. Tempshill 22:47, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Use of merger process
This proposal doesn't seem like the sort of merger addressed in Merging and moving pages. It's really a proposal to delete this article, on the grounds that a separate article isn't needed. I think it should go through AfD. I've addressed this procedural question in more detail at Wikipedia talk:Merging and moving pages. (I suggest that discussion of the procedural point should go there, not here, to keep it all in one place.) JamesMLane 19:20, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Deletion would be 'this information must die'. Merging is 'this information must go over there with that information'. Personally, I think AfD would be a lot better if people stopped cluttering it up with merge cases! Lord Bob 19:34, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I concur with Lord Bob. My suggestion to merge was a suggestion to make sure the essential content was included in Harriet Miers and Unsuccessful nominations to the Supreme Court of the United States; the latter article can focus on the process more than the former.  Much of the content of this article, particularly the attempts to list evidence of her views subject by subject, can go without being incorporated elsewhere, but that's not a deletion—that's simple editing.  Postdlf 16:12, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Count of Supreme Court justices
Anonymous user 4.225.220.166 made a request on Talk:List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States which was motivated by a dispute on this page. The dispute centers on a sentence which currently reads, "Forty-one of the 111 Supreme Court Justices appointed never served as a judge prior to their nomination." The question is how many Supreme Court justices have existed.

If one counts up the number of rows in the List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States article, there are 111 rows. However, two of the justices, John Rutledge and Charles Evans Hughes, served non-consecutive terms as Associate and Chief Justice, and therefore are listed twice. Correcting for the 2 double-counts gives us 109 justices.

I will now revise this article appropriately.

— DLJessup (talk) 23:26, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Paul Schenck or Robert Schenck?
In the "Reactions to her nomination" section there is a reference to Robert Schenck, however, the wikilink leads to Paul Schenck. Which one is meant here? --Rob 15:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Since it's apparently been a decade, I'm just going to stick a citation needed on that until I can actually locate a source for that anecdote. RexSueciae (talk) 23:27, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Bush implied

 * Bush himself implied that her religion was part of why he nominated her.

It's not that I doubt it, but I would like to see the source. --A Sunshade Lust 01:05, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * See, e.g., http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/10/13/bush_promoting_miers_invokes_her_faith/ All major media outlets had similar stories after he made that statement.  Postdlf 17:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

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CineSync

cineSync is a software tool developed by Cospective, designed for viewing video content in sync with anyone, anywhere in the world. cineSync's drawing tools can be used for pointing at elements in the frame, sketching new ideas and writing text notes, all synchronised in real time with all participants in the review. Unlike screen sharing or streaming solutions, cineSync readily copes with the demands of high resolution video.

cineSync was officially released on October 31, 2005, although it was used prior to that date by Steven Spielberg during the making of War of the Worlds.

Instrumental in the development of cineSync was the team of Tony Clark, Alan Rogers, Neil Wilson and Rory McGregor, who were presented with a Technical Achievement Award by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS) for the 2010 Scientific and Technical Achievement Awards. The academy's Scientific and Technical Awards honor the men, women and companies whose discoveries and innovations have contributed in significant, outstanding and lasting ways to motion pictures.

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MS Xpedition

MS Xpedition is a cruise ship for Celebrity Cruises and one of three vessels making up the Xpedition class. The ship is an alternative to the line's larger ships, offering more personal attention afforded by its smaller size.

The ship currently sails to the Galápagos Islands, revisiting the ports of Charles Darwin. The ship's shallow draft allows it to access ports in the region that larger cruise ships cannot visit.

Incidents
On 5 November 2019, Celebrity Xpedition ran aground in the Galapagos Islands. No passengers or crew were injured and no environmental damage was caused.

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Talk:Snakes on a Plane

I just did a fix-up of the ending.
I added a lot of information that was left out of the previous version, although I did leave parts of it intact. I have an audio recording of the ending on my MP3 player (don't ask >_>) so it should be pretty accurate. If you feel like the whole thing should be more of a quick summary then just change it back. The only thing I'm really unsure of is the last paragraph - I felt the "first words" thing needed to be mentioned somehow, but I don't think I put it in too well... just change it to how you think it would work best. Norar 04:14, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Epic Movie
The film Epic Movie, to be released in 2007, will parody Snakes on a Plane in a portion of its movie. I believe that this should be included somewhere, especially since it appears that it will be one of the better parodies and also since it's included in a feature film. However, I don't know what section to put it in, so please feel free to add info about it where appropriate. View the article to see the trailer on MySpace to see the parody.--Nehrams2020 05:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I personally don't think it's going to be one of the "better" parodies as you said (I thought the parody in the trailer looked bad), but it does deserve a mention. I'm going to put it in the Trivia section for now. - Norar 05:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I did it, but I think it needs more information on the parody itself. I would re-watch the scene in the trailer and put more information in now but I'm a bit tired to be bothered. Maybe later. - Norar 05:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

 * First off, that movie could not look worse. I have no doubt that it will be terrible. With that said, it deserves a mention in the article, just as any other "notable" parody would. -- Kicking222 03:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

WOOPS!!!
I have no idea how I did that. I'll try and change it back. Sorry!!! Norar 01:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Maxamegalon2000. I was adding some sources to the DVD section as well as stuff on the Australian release date and my computer screwed up and then the page was like that. I feel really bad right now. Norar 01:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Don't feel bad. Everyone makes mistakes. Plus, it can be fixed really easily like it just was. :) -- RattleMan 01:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

You're right on that one, it was just at the time I was shocked when I accidentally reduced a huge article on a loved movie of mine down to a couple of paragraphs and a list! Anyway, I just went back and re-added the sources and Aussie release date without a hassle. :D Norar 08:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

 * " " --Maxamegalon2000 15:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Renominate for GA status?
I personally think this is an excellent article (aside from frequent vandalism, but that's unrelated to GA status). Does anyone else think that it should be placed back at the Good Article candidates page? It is well-sourced and well-written; my only major issue would be eliminating the "Trivia" section and integrating any notable trivia bits into prose elsewhere in the article. -- Kicking222 19:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I was going to look into starting the process of getting it GA status this week, so it's good to see someone else does also. I added fair use rationale on the pictures already, which prevents a quick-fail. However there are several bits of information within the article that do not have sources. Once these have sources, I think we can submit it and see how it goes. --Nehrams2020 22:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Should the too statements that are unsourced be removed and listed on the talk page until a source is found for them? If we take them off, then it is likely we could pursue GA. We can still attempt to find the sources for them, but pull them off of the article for right now. The two statements lacking sources are:
 * The videos are in discussion to be put on the official DVD produced by Automat Pictures. (from the Internet section)
 * The winner was Max Goldberg, owner of YTMND. (I remember hearing that he won, but we need confirmation. If you return to the official website, it doesn't list a winner, it just says that the contest is over and no more votes will be accepted. --Nehrams2020 06:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, I just checked the criteria for a GA, and it says that articles over 25kb should be nominated for FA, not GA, and this article is currently 49kb long. --Nehrams2020 06:06, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not that articles over 25kb must be nominated for FA instead of GA, it's that said nomination is "often more appropriate". However, since the article has never had a peer review, and because it had a failed GA nomination (which, of course, was before the film came out), I think nominating for GA and then getting feedback from that process is the best option. -- Kicking222 22:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with going through that process first, since there hasn't been any other feedback I am going to remove the two statements and then submit for GA to see what needs to be changed, if anything. If anyone can find sources for the two below statements, please add them back to the article.
 * The winner was Max Goldberg, owner of YTMND.
 * The videos are in discussion to be put on the official DVD produced by Automat Pictures.

That citation will work, I'll put it in right now. --Nehrams2020 03:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

GA on hold
Covers the topic exhaustively and I see no significant POV problems. Minor issues stand in the way of GA status. The lead and Internet sections could use some cleanup and the overall tone of the Internet section could be improved. The list of viral videos and the Trivia section should definitely be removed, with only the most notable information being incorporated into the article. Noclip 04:02, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Should all of the viral videos be removed, or can some of the most notable ones go in the external links? Does anyone know of a website that has a link to all of these videos? I'm starting to work on removing the trivia section by converting most of it over into a "references and parodies in popular culture" section. Also to describe some of the snake facts within the trivia section, should that be in the cast section with something like "of the 450 snakes used in the film, a xx snake, xx snake was used (although its nonpoisonous replacement called the xx snake was used), and xx snakes were used." Or instead of the cast section should there be a section devoted fully to the snakes, especially since they were a large part of the movie. Please leave some feedback so we can get this moving forward. --Nehrams2020 19:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm inclined to say that all the viral videos should be left out. A short blurb about the viral videos in general seems like it would be more appropriate. The inclusion of snake facts should be limited to those that are both notable and genuinely interesting to a reader who hasn't seen the film. To clarify my comment about the lead, it should serve to summarize the article's main points. The comment about re-shooting may be more appropriate in the History section. - Noclip 22:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * In my sandbox I reworked the article, moving most of the trivia section into a "parodies and references in popular culture section", leaving only three points in trivia. I moved the snake information up under the cast, and somewhat reworked the intro. I also removed the viral videos as well. Look this over and see if there are any other improvements that need to be made, and once that's done, I'll transfer it over to here. --Nehrams2020 00:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Looking over the reworked version, the main issues have been resolved. While it would pass in this form, my personal recommendation is to get rid of the first two trivia facts completely and to work the third one into the History section. Noclip 02:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

When the DVD comes out next week (me being Australian) I'll try and tidy up the Synopsis section. --Norar 13:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I transfered over the cleaned-up section to the article. You're really lucky to get the early release date, do you know why they went with releasing in Australia first? --Nehrams2020 19:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * New Line gets different companies to distribute their films overseas. I think Village Roadshow does it for us. I'm not sure whether it's New Line's choice or Village's choice to release it earlier here, though, but I think the fact that the distributor is different plays a part in it. --Norar 04:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Alright, the DVD is mine now. I'll probably start cleaning up the Synopsis section in the next few days. --Norar 08:57, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Just so you know, I did make a start on it ages ago but I've been putting it off since then. I'll have to get around to it some time. Sorry. --Norar 05:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

GA Pass
Improvements have brought it up to GA standard, for which all criteria have been met. I suggest bringing it to peer review some time later to get suggestions and help with improving it further. Noclip 19:42, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Great job on getting it thus far. Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . Editor Review 23:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

When was the name changed?
It's confusing following the name "Snakes on a Plane". The article states that "Jackson told an interviewer, "We're totally changing that back. That's the only reason I took the job: I read the title."" but it doesn't mention before that line how the name first became Snakes on a Plane then changed (so that Jackson required it set back to Snakes..) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.140.143.174 (talk) 06:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC). -I agree. --anon

What is unreasonable about "moderate success"
"only moderate and considered to be" was reverted. What is unreasonable about this addition? Just "disappointing" implies that the film was a commercial failure, which it absolutely was not. The articles linked have a quote from one of the producers to the effect of "we'll make money on this just not as much as we expected". M.C. Brown Shoes 09:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The producer of the film is a clearly biased source since no businessman will ever admit to a film doing bad business. What matters here is that the unbiased sources have said "Snakes on A Plane" has "tanked", is a "disappointment", or "failed".If you can find sources that contest them, then please include it. However, the consensus on this talkpage (and in the press) is that SoaP was considered to be a "financial disappointment." Your POV vandalism won't change that fact. --Anon
 * "Disappointing" is POV in itself. Disappointing to who? The producers! But the producers are biased when they say "we'll make money on this, just not as much as we expected"? Paint me confused. And correct me if I'm wrong but while these aren't too great, they don't look like box office stats for a movie that "tanked". M.C. Brown Shoes 05:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Nonsense. I hate to break it to ya, but this is how Wiki works. It's "disappointing" according to the reporters of the New York Times, EW, Rolling Stones, and many, many other publications. The producer of this film ain't a journalist and the producer is not certainly a publication. The producer is quoted to say he thinks the movie will make its money back. But then the article itself accuses the producer of spinning the facts. And keep in mind, several variables are considered when detirmining when a flop is a flop. King Kong made over $200 million. But it cost $250 million to make. Clerks only made $25 million but it only cost $5 million to make. What makes SoaP a disappointment is that everyone, including the press, thought this film was going to be a huge hit. However, the internet hype was just that... hype. SoaP made the mistake of dumping alot of money in the marketing costs of this film, to the tune of $35-40 million. And that doesn't include the $33 million dollars it cost to make the film. That means the film had to make $65-70 million just to be considered profitable. Last I checked, this has happened. And this is why the press said the film is a disappointment, and I simply reported on this fact for this article in accordance to wiki standards of citation, period. Yes, when a film is expected to be the biggest hit of the summer and then doesn't make it's money back, confounded everyone's expectations, then it is fair to say it is a disappointment. And that isn't according to me, that's according to the press consensus.

Hope this helps. -- Anon
 * This has been discussed before; see archive 3. schi talk 19:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

So any # how it´s doing in DVD sales? Some films like "Three Kings" where a complete failure as cinema film, but raised to #1 here in Sweden as DVD rental. RGDS Alexmcfire

Guest Performers on Cobra Starship Track
Just lending a hand with names

Travis McCoy from Gym Class Hereos William Beckett from The Academy Is Maja Ivarsson from The Sounds

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About "Dell Girl"...
Just so you know, Agam Darshi was credited as "Dell Girl" in the theatrical release, so it's not exclusive to the DVD version. I might as well take out the whole part about "iPod Girl". --Norar 05:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Score CD release.
Trevor Rabin's score for the film is getting a release on CD on March 13 this year (shifted from February 27). I don't know where this should go, so I'll just put sources here and someone can put the information in where they think it should go.

Source for release date.

Source for track listing (if needed).

--Norar 09:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Mention marketing failure or blaxploitation?
Grindhouse is being marketed as campy exploitation on purpose, and has generated good buzz. On the other hand, Snakes on a Plane was marketed as a serious action-adventure, and turned out to match the basic requirements of a blaxploitation flick: badass black dude fighting snakes on an out-of-control airplane. --205.201.141.146 16:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If you can find information from a reliable source stating the above, then we can include it in the article. But if it's only what we think, no matter how well we think we know it, we have to avoid Wikipedia:OR. Any book, newspaper or magazine article, or credible website can be used for a source. --Nehrams2020 17:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I do not believe it was blaxploitation, for the simple fact that it was Samuel L. Jackson. And most people that caught onto the whole fad when the movie was just being announced were white anyway. But I still think there should be a wiki project for it. I can hear it now: Snakes on a Wiki.  Zchris87v  04:26, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And what do you know? --Lenin and McCarthy |  (Complain here) 02:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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Box office bomb?
The introduction states that the movie was a box office bomb, but the chart seems to show otherwise. The revenue is significantly greater than the budget, so does it really qualify as a bomb? 64.91.147.198 23:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

 * From what I remember it did poorly at the box office but was much more successful on DVD... so both could be true. Mark Grant 01:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

 * The $59 million figure is given in the text as just from worldwide theatrical release which doesn't include DVD sales AFAIK. The estimates given for the expected opening weekend was $20-30 million and it got $15, so it doesn't seem massively off. I think it was more to do with lots of hype, but in a relatively small arena that a large part of the movie going public wouldn't have seen, led to lots of expectation, particularly among the media who were reporting on all the 'buzz', which was then not really fulfilled. --81.150.229.68 (talk) 14:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The synopsis section
In the synopsis section it talks about the first victims being those two people having sex in the bathroom. Right after that it goes on to state that the second victim is a man using a different restroom. This may be the second scene with a victim but he is the third victim. also, other parts of that paragraph are poorly worded and should maybe be redone. -j.student at 2:54 pm 12/04/07

Realism
is there any criticisms of the realism of snakes attacking people on a plane? Many snakes(such as cobras), eat other snakes, and certainly these snakes are mixed with other snakes. Also, snakes are ambush predators, while in the movie the stalk humans. Is there a pheromone that would make them attack people, who are too large to be seen as prey for most snakes? also I read the best way to combat snakes on a plane would be to turn down the temperature, since they are cold blooded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rds865 (talk • contribs) 01:09, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I dont think many people were bothered about that. It's a film, it can defy realism/logic. 77.99.186.110 (talk)

Box Office
From the page

"industry analysts estimated the movie's opening box office to be between US$20 million and US$30 million........grossed only US$15.25 million in its opening days"

These two figures do not add up - the full opening days is LESS than the opening box office?--Dumarest (talk) 12:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

comedy?
can someone please give me a source,coause i really dont know if its supposed to be a comedy or not —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke12345abcd (talk • contribs) 12:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Well it has elements of comedy in it, unless you dont have a sense of humour that is... 77.99.186.110 (talk) 15:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

it is a comedy, there is nothing serious about this movie unless u don't understand sarcasm. Markthemac (talk) 02:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that they would have put the line " I am tired of these mother f***ing snakes of this mother f***ing plane!" in there if it had realy meant to be funny, as the line would have different, making it even(if it possible) more funny.--Mamaluigisover9000 (talk) 23:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Clobbering a federal agent to death with a baseball bat is hardly to be considered comedy, unless you are a mobster… —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.180.100.21 (talk) 14:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Not every part of the movie has to be funny in order for it to be a comedy. A film can belong to more than one genre. 72.200.151.13 (talk) 01:22, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Have any reliable sources described the film as a comedy? DonIago (talk) 05:21, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * That I couldn't tell you. Probably not. Just responding to a point that I didn't find convincing. Yours is the only relevant question, though. 72.200.151.13 (talk) 23:55, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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Source: http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=253565

I'm not sure this deserves mention, on one side it's just a few paragraphs of a practical joke, but on the other, at least one person seems to have played and enjoyed it. Not to mention it being a good example of... fan response? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.98.56.141 (talk) 15:22, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Monkey Fighting Snakes
Shouldn't there be a mention of the FX (TV channel) version that edits the infamous line to "I'm tired of these monkey-fighting snakes on this Monday to Friday plane". Showtime2009 (talk) 00:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

 * A section has been added and removed from the article several times. If you do not see information about the "TV version" or a section mentioning dubbing or ADR, then you will need to add it back again and try to come up with a better wording.
 * Other films do this kind of dubbing (Hot Fuzz made a feature of it and included it as a DVD extra), so it is not itself unusual but I think this instance it got enough coverage to be WP:NOTABLE. -- 93.107.11.99 (talk) 17:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Cast List
Could somebody add a Cast list to the page? Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.62.231 (talk) 19:36, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Tail Sting similarities
Considering how obscure this B-Movie is, it's not a real wonder that no one has noted that the premise of Snakes on a Plane is extremely similar to Tail Sting, except for the fact that they are giant scorpions. Still, other elements in common include an attack to a couple in the bathroom, a door ajar while in the air and, yes, even a line that says "Motherfuckin' bugs".--Surten (talk) 07:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Default response - Do any reliable sources discuss this? If not, it's original research and inappropriate for inclusion. cheers. Doniago (talk) 16:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

http://cinecutre.com/index.php?modulo=portada&opc=2&id=941&seccion=2 It's in spanish. Does it count as a reliable source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RichardKleiner (talk • contribs) 00:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Rating
What was this movie rated?--71.235.92.16 (talk) 21:43, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Check IMDb? As far as here goes, we have WP:FILMRATING. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 01:33, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

The article already states "It's rated R for good reason" in the Critical response section. It may have a different rating in whatever country you are from. -- 93.107.11.99 (talk) 17:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

I live in the United States.--71.235.92.16 (talk) 13:46, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

You were right, it is rated R.--71.235.92.16 (talk) 13:47, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

TV version
Almost all movies shown on broadcast TV in North America have obscenities censored in some way. Why is this incidence special? -- Neil N  talk to me  17:06, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

 * They don't get coverage. This got significant coverage, this makes it WP:NOTABLE. It might be better to include a note about ADR in the Production section, or find some other place to include it. I've tried to rephrase it but I'm not sure what exactly you think is needed.
 * Also another user asked above on this Talk page why Monkey Fighting plane wasn't included, indicating people are aware of it and interested in having it included in the article (although the fact that people have added it in WP:GOODFAITH and I've added it again also indicates people think it is worth including). -- 93.107.11.99 (talk) 20:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Just because something gets coverage does not mean that we have to include it, so you need better arguments to include this. Especially when the section is as misleading as it currently is (implying that the censorship is an incident particular to this film, which it is not). At the very least, it needs to be said that this is absolutely normal and done for all films shown on certain networks. But even then, it seems like trivia at best. It's not Wikipedia's job to report on the latest meme or reddit front page news item. --Conti|✉ 22:01, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * IMO, this information is more encyclopedic and relevant than the DVD release dates cited in the section above. The line is arguably more famous than the film itself, and the fact that not only did they change the line in a humorous fashion but the change got media coverage makes it noteworthy. I don't care if the "TV version" section is removed and replaced with a separate section discussing the line, how it was (reputedly, at least) added in reshoots based on fan-originated internet hype, and so, and then how it, along with several other lines, was altered in the TV version. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 12:00, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I like your suggestion, it fits in much better as an addition to the comments in the development section about the catchphrase. Looking at it again the Development section is a relatively long section and it doesn't use the recommended section headings. It might be better reorganized and divided into subsections, e.g. Production/Development and Production/Filming. -- 109.78.205.45 (talk) 21:47, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Agent Sanders?
There is no mention of Mark Houghton, the actor that portrays Agent Sanders. I have not seen the film, but it seems like an important character. --Manfroze (talk) 01:23, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

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Audio drama version
For some reason the addition I just made of the audio drama version disappeared though it hasn't been reverted: I see that it's just gone into some new queue I've never seen before "pending review". I was going to add a link to the Amazon listing: https://www.amazon.com/Snakes-Plane-Line-Productions-Inc/dp/159950166X. The Graphic Audio website no longer lists it for sale. I have a copy sitting right in front of me so this is a real release. 68.146.233.86 (talk) 19:37, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
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Protection needed...
Considering a series of IP addresses have been submitting false/unsubstantiated information about crime boss Eddie Kim in this article (no evidence of anything beyond him being a gang boss and the catalyst behind the snakes), I recommend this page be (semi-)protected against these edits. DawgDeputy (talk) 21:02, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:RFPP is over thataway... DonIago (talk) 02:13, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Tried. Could not get them to protect this vulnerable article. DawgDeputy (talk) 22:02, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The article hasn't been edited since May 21, so I'm not surprised your request was turned down, and I'm not really seeing how it's currently "vulnerable". Page protection is usually only for situations where there's active, ongoing disruption. DonIago (talk) 02:32, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * ...also, it appears that the article does currently have pending changes protection? DonIago (talk) 02:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * There were significant time gaps between each problematic IPs' set of unsubstantiated edits.
 * April 11th, 2022,
 * April 12th, 2022,
 * May 7th, 2022,
 * May 19th, 2022.
 * Whosoever is using these IPs is biding time in hopes that we would let our guard down in this page by leaving it unprotected. DawgDeputy (talk) 22:13, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * This edit is solid proof that this article and this talk page need long-term semi-protection. DawgDeputy (talk) 17:16, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. The IP that made that edit has been blocked, though that may have happened after you left your note here? DonIago (talk) 00:47, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * No, before. Nevertheless, that IP will just hop over to another. A long-term (semi-)protection of Snakes on a Plane and this talk page is the only guarantee the IP will stop spreading lies/rumors/unsubstantiated information here. DawgDeputy (talk) 22:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you'll need to go back to WP:RFPP and include the relevant diffs, but if you don't have at least a handful of fairly recent ones they're likely going to decide it's not an issue...and I'm not sure they're wrong. Compare this to the frequent edits to Futurama episode articles where people change the episode or season number despite inline notes telling them not to. DonIago (talk) 02:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

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USS Lofberg

USS Lofberg (DD-759), was an Allen M. Sumner-class destroyer of the United States Navy.

Namesake
Gus Brynolf Lofberg, Jr. was born on 6 April 1903 in Manitou, Michigan. He graduated from the United States Naval Academy on 2 June 1927. He served on board such ships as USS Concord (CL-10), USS William B. Preston (DD-344), USS Macleish (DD-220), USS Arctic (AF-7) and USS California (BB-44) before receiving his first command, USS Little (DD-79) on 27 February 1942. On the night of 4 September 1942 Little challenged a vastly superior Imperial Japanese Navy force then engaged in shelling American-held positions on Guadalcanal. Lieutenant commander Lofberg was listed as missing in action after Little was set afire and sunk. He was posthumously awarded the Silver Star.

Construction and commissioning
Lofberg was laid down on 4 November 1943 by Bethlehem Steel Co., San Francisco, California and launched on 12 August 1944; sponsored by Mrs. G. B. Lofberg, Jr., widow of Lieutenant Commander Lofberg. The ship was commissioned on 26 April 1945.

Service history
After shakedown, Lofberg departed the West Coast for the war zone. Since the formal surrender of Japan occurred almost six weeks before she arrived Tokyo Bay, 13 October, the destroyer was assigned to occupation duty. First came the clearing of mines from Japanese harbors, then a series of shuttle runs between Okinawa and Shanghai, and finally her return to San Francisco on 28 March 1946 with a group of Marines embarked at Tsingtao, China.

Lofberg was now temporarily assigned to the 3rd Reserve Fleet During the next year she restricted her sailing to short two-week coastal cruises to train Naval Reserves. On 1 July 1947 Lofberg resumed operations with the Pacific Fleet as flagship for DesRon 7.

Korean War
Three years later the outbreak of the Korean War tested the Navy's peacetime stress upon continuous training and physical readiness. On 30 September, under the command of Comdr. R. W. McElrath, Lofberg departed San Francisco on the first of three tours of duty in the new war zone. These operations extended over a three-year period.

Upon her initial arrival in Korean waters she became part of the screen for the fast carriers of Task Force (TF) 77. Planes from these carriers played an important part in successful evacuations in November and December of United Nations troops from North Korea in the wake of Chinese Communist intervention. Shifted temporarily to Task Group 96.8, she participated in gunfire support missions first off Korea's west coast and then in company with the battleship USS Missouri (BB-63) against targets along the eastern coast. As on her two succeeding tours she also took part both in the naval siege of Wonsan, Korea, and the preventive patrolling of the Formosa Straits before returning home on 2 July 1951.

Even after the Korean armistice of July 1953, Lofberg continued to make annual voyages to the Far East to participate in the activities and responsibilities of the 7th Fleet. By the beginning of 1960 she had lost her flagship status to a more modern-type destroyer. Though called upon as a part of the 1961 South China Sea buildup during a new Laotian crisis, this World War II vintage ship soon returned to San Francisco for a FRAM II rehabilitation and modernization.

New duties and the Vietnam War
Refurbished on 23 July 1962, Lofberg steamed forth to undergo a refresher training cruise and exercises designed to teach the effective use of her new helicopter flight deck. On 22 September she joined DesDiv 153, Pacific Fleet, for tactical training as part of an antisubmarine hunter group. The following 19 April, Lofberg departed the west coast to begin a new series of Far Eastern tours of duty. Lofberg completed her first assignment in time to spend Christmas 1963 at home, but her following voyage lasted from 23 October 1964 until 17 May 1965. To the familiar Formosa Strait patrol was added in February new duties off the coast of war ravaged South Vietnam. These duties included participation in the coastal barrier patrol initiated to prevent the infiltration of men and supplies from North Vietnam. During 1964-1965 cruise Lofberg's division surfaced two Russian submarines and escorted them from South China Sea...Lofberg was part of the Destroyer Division and Carrier Hancock that established Station Yankee in Gulf of Tonkin... Lofberg cruised off coast of North Vietnam using ECM to do target designation for Carrier Based Bombers and B52's out of Guam awarded two Armed Forces Expeditionary Medals one for 30 days at Station Yankee and one for 90 days off coast of North Vietnam also awarded ASWA "A" for proven excellence in antisubmarine warfare....because the bombing from Operation Rolling Thunder caused 140,000 civilian casualties President Johnson made Operation secret and no medals were awarded ETN-2 ECM midwatch in Lofberg CIC

Lofberg's last years
Once home from the newest war zone, Lofberg underwent a three-month drydock period and in October commenced tactical exercises in the southern California operation area. The destroyer reentered the South China Sea 26 April 1966, and during the next six months served first on Yankee Station and then provided gunfire support to allied forces ashore. While assigned to the latter duties she participated in operation "Deck House 11".

Since that time, into 1969, Lofberg had continued to rotate duty with the 1st and 7th Fleets in the Pacific.

Fate
Lofberg was decommissioned 15 January 1971, stricken 1 February 1973 and sold to Taiwan 6 May 1974 for spare parts.

Lofberg received seven battle stars for Korean service.

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Kenchō-ji

Kenchō-ji (建長寺) is a Rinzai Zen temple in Kamakura, Kanagawa Prefecture, Japan, which ranks first among Kamakura's so-called Five Great Zen Temples (the Kamakura Gozan) and is the oldest Zen training monastery in Japan. These temples were at the top of the Five Mountain System, a network of Zen temples started by the Hōjō Regents. Still very large, it originally had a full shichidō garan and 49 subtemples.

The sangō is Kofukusan (巨福山).

The temple was constructed on the orders of Emperor Go-Fukakusa and completed in 1253, fifth year of the Kenchō era, from which it takes its name. It was founded by Rankei Doryū, a Chinese Zen master who moved to Japan in 1246, spending some years in Kyushu and Kyoto before coming to Kamakura.

Kenchō-ji and the shogunate
Kamakura Regent Hōjō Tokiyori was the temple's main patron during its early years. The sponsorship was spiritual (he was close to a Zen master himself) as well as political: the Kamakura Gozan, organization of which this temple was head, had an important role in the shogunate's organization. The system, to which the Ashikaga added a series of five temples in Kyoto called the Kyoto Gozan, was adopted to promote Zen in Japan however, there as it had already happened in China, it was soon controlled and used by the country's ruling classes for their own administrative and political ends. The Gozan system allowed the temples at the top to function as de facto ministries, using their nationwide network of temples for the distribution of government laws and norms, and for the monitoring of local conditions for their military superiors. The Hōjō first, and the Ashikaga later were therefore able to disguise their power under a religious mask, while monks and priests worked for the government as translators, diplomats and advisers.

Under their masters' patronage, Kenchō-ji and the Five Mountain temples gradually became centers of learning and developed a characteristic literature called the Japanese Literature of the Five Mountains. During the Japanese Middle Ages, its scholars exerted a far-reaching influence on the internal political affairs of the country.

The Gozan system finally declined with the dissolution of the Ashikaga shogunate which had sponsored it. Kenchō-ji's own renaissance came in the 19th century under the guidance of Zen master Aozora Kandō.

Buildings and points of interest
Kenchō-ji originally consisted of a shichidō garan with 49 subtemples, but most of these were lost in fires in the 14th and 15th centuries. It still is a classic example of a Zen garan with its buildings aligned north to south. The complex currently consists of ten subtemples. Its most important structures include (in order from the first gate):

 * The Sōmon (outer gate), where the ticket booths are, which was moved here from the Hanju Zanmai-in temple in Kyoto.
 * The Sanmon (Main Gate), built in 1754 with donations from all over the Kantō region. According to a popular legend, a raccoon dog (a tanuki) helped raise the money transforming himself into a monk to repay the kindness of the temple's priests. For this reason, even today the sanmon is often called Tanuki-mon (狸門).
 * The Bonshō (Temple Bell), cast in 1255, which is a National Treasure.
 * The Butsuden (lit. Buddha Hall), an Important Cultural Property which was moved to Kamakura from Zōjō-ji in Tokyo in 1647.
 * The Hattō (Dharma Hall), built in 1814, where public ceremonies are held. It is the largest Buddhist wooden structure in Eastern Japan.
 * The Karamon (Grand Gate), another Important Cultural Property, was brought here from Zōjō-ji together with the Butsuden.
 * The Hōjō (the head priest's living quarters), also moved from the Hanju Zanmai-in in Kyoto, used for religious ceremonies.
 * The Monastery, where monks are trained in meditation, which is however permanently closed to the public. It consists of a Zen-dō (meditation hall), of a kaisan-dō (founder's hall, a hall enshrining the temple's founder) and of the administrative offices.
 * The large Zen garden behind the Hōjō called Shin-ji Ike (心字池) and which is shaped like the Chinese character for mind (心), was designed by famous Zen teacher, scholar, poet, and garden designer Musō Soseki.
 * A recent ceiling painting by Koizumi Junsaku (2003) portraying a dragon decorates the ceiling of the Hattō, the building behind the Butsuden. For this reason, the Hattō is often called Ryūō-den (龍王殿).

In front of the Butsuden stand some great Chinese juniper trees which have been designated Natural Treasures. At the time of the founding of the temple, these big trees were simple saplings brought from China by the founder Doryū. Underneath the biggest a great stone monument surrounded by chains commemorates those of Kamakura's citizens who died during the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-5.

Hansōbō
Near the end of the temple's garden, over a hill stands the Hansōbō, the temple's large tutelary Shinto shrine. The enshrined spirit is the Hansōbō Daigongen. The gongen was originally the tutelary spirit (chinju (鎮守/鎮主)) of Hōkō-ji in Shizuoka and was brought here in 1890 by Aozora Kandō. The statues on the stairs leading to the shrine represent Tengu, entities similar to goblins which accompany the gongen. Some of the creatures have wings and a beak: they are a type of tengu called Karasu-tengu (crow tengu) because of their appearance. On a clear day, from the shrine one can see Mount Fuji to the west, and Sagami bay and Izu Ōshima to the south. The stones in the garden are full of names: they are those of the faithful who donated to the temple, and which belong to over 100 different religious organizations. This area used to be the temple's Inner Sanctuary, which still stands among the trees at the very top of the hill and which can be reached going up the steep stairs that begin on the right of the shrine, in front of the Jizō-dō. Next to the sanctuary there's an observation deck from which, on clear days, are visible Kamakura, Yuigahama and Mount Fuji.

At the very end of the garden, next to the Hansōbō, on a small hill overlooking a lake stands the Kaishun-in. This remote temple was built in 1334 and enshrines a statue of Monju Bosatsu.

Sanmon Kajiwara Segaki-e
On the 15th of July (Obon, or the festival of the dead) Kenchō-ji celebrates the famous Sanmon Kajiwara Segaki-e (三門梶原施餓鬼会) funerary ceremony. The normal funeral rites take place early in the morning under the Sanmon gate. Only at Kenchō-ji, they are later repeated expressly for the soul of Kajiwara Kagetoki, a Kamakura period samurai who died during the political turmoil that followed the death of Minamoto no Sanetomo.

The origins of the ceremony are said to go back to the days of Doryū. The legend says that one day, right after the end of a segaki, (a Buddhist service in favor of suffering spirits) a ghostly figure appeared. Having discovered that the segaki was already over, the warrior seemed so sad that the priest repeated the ceremony just for him. Afterwards, the man revealed he was the ghost of Kajiwara Kagetoki.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yamato-Yagi Station

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. H e rmione1980My RfA 22:39, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Yamato-Yagi Station
Unencyclopedic information concerning and unimportant train station. We do not need an article about every single busy train station across the globe will381796 00:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Now I agree with you will. Google only returns 189 hits, nearly all if not all of which are directions to random places . --CastAStone 01:04, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn Train Station --JAranda | yeah 01:15, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, like everything in Category:London Underground stations. Kappa 02:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't you say there is a difference between a major transportation system in a metropolitan area as compared to a single train station in Japan. Perhaps if there were an entire article related to Japanese train stations in relation to their transportation system.  However, that I think would fall under the category of travel guide. will381796 02:54, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Category:London Underground stations is full of articles about single train stations. Kappa 03:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, like every station article. If you are not interested they do no harm. Secretlondon 05:11, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Railway stations are every bit as notable as subway stations, and if you see Articles for deletion/Precedents you will find that those are generally sufficiently notable. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. No harm, and having the stub should encourage more users to contribute in areas that they are familiar with. Neier 08:24, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep We keep train stations. CalJW 08:50, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per previous. -feydey 09:29, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. utcursch | talk 11:11, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep train stations regardless of number of Google hits (this one gets twenty-four thousand in Japanese). There are no criteria for notability of train stations, and non-notable is not a criterion for deletion of them. Fg2 11:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep stations. NSR (talk) 12:38, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep stations. Plus, this helps address regional bias CLW 12:52, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * keep this please it is notable just like a school we are getting better at avoiding systemic bias which is a good thing Yuckfoo 18:56, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * keep my fault earlier, I didn't remember the precident. change vote. --CastAStone 22:19, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

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American Astronautical Society

Formed in 1954, the American Astronautical Society (AAS) is an independent scientific and technical group in the United States dedicated to the advancement of space science and space exploration. AAS supports NASA's Vision for Space Exploration and is a member of the Coalition for Space Exploration and the Space Exploration Alliance. The AAS also focuses on strengthening the global space program through cooperation with international space organizations. The society has a long history of supporting space exploration through scholarships.

AAS members include: engineers, scientists, administrators, institutions and corporations working in support of the nation's space activities, as well as military space specialists, physicians, lawyers, educators, historians, journalists, artists and other professionals.

The AAS runs national meetings, symposia and publications. Members meet with leaders in their field and in related disciplines, exchange information and ideas, discuss career aspirations and expand their horizons.

The AAS sponsors professional, scientific and engineering meetings and maintains a publications program.

Publications
The Journal of the Astronautical Sciences is the official journal of the AAS, published by Springer Publishing.

Space Times is a magazine with an American focus looking at recent developments in the history and government approach to space development. In the past, it has included policy speeches by NASA officials and reprints of articles from other sources that are relevant to its membership.

The group also runs the Research Notes of the AAS (RNAAS), which is a non-peer reviewed index of works-in-progress published by IOP Publishing.

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Flea flicker

A flea flicker is an unorthodox play, often called a "trick play", in American football which is designed to fool the defensive team into thinking that a play is a run instead of a pass. It can be considered an extreme variant of the play-action pass and an extension of the halfback option play.

Description
After the snap, the quarterback hands off or laterals the ball to a running back or another player on the team, who then runs towards or parallel to the line of scrimmage. Before the running back crosses the line of scrimmage, he laterals the ball back to the quarterback, who looks to pass to an eligible receiver.

A typical football defense is very aggressive to the run, and the flea flicker uses that against them. The play is designed to draw the defense into defending against a run and away from defending a pass, leaving the quarterback free from any immediate pass rush, and leaving receivers potentially open to catch a pass as their covering defenders may have moved off the pass looking to tackle a ball carrier. The elaborate back-and-forth with the ball also gives time for receivers to get downfield, opening up an opportunity for a long completion.

Like most other types of trick plays, the play is very risky. Despite the potential for a very big play when running a flea flicker, the play takes a long time to develop, meaning it often ends in disaster when run against a strong pass rush.

Origins
Illinois coach Bob Zuppke is credited with the play's invention:  the flea flicker made its debut in Illinois' 1925 game against Penn as a fake field goal with Earl Britton, Red Grange, and Chuck Kassel.

On the play, Britton lined up as a kicker, with Grange as holder. After the snap, Britton threw the ball to Kassel, who then lateraled to Grange; Grange proceeded to score a touchdown on a 20-yard run.

Notable examples

 * January 12, 1969: In Super Bowl III, with the Baltimore Colts trailing the New York Jets 7-0 just before halftime, the Colts attempted a flea flicker. Despite the fact that Jimmy Orr was wide open near the end zone, Earl Morrall threw the ball to fullback Jerry Hill, only for Jets safety Jim Hudson to intercept the pass. During a regular-season game against the Atlanta Falcons, Morrall used the same play and was able to find Orr for a touchdown.
 * January 30, 1983: In the final quarter of Super Bowl XVII, the Washington Redskins were trailing the Miami Dolphins 17-13 when they attempted a flea flicker, which they had successfully used in the Divisional Round against the Minnesota Vikings. Mindful of the ruse, Miami defensive back Lyle Blackwood intercepted the pass; however, Washington coach Joe Gibbs later pointed out the play was not a total loss, as Blackwood was downed on his own 1-yard line. Washington ended up forcing Miami to punt from deep in their own territory and got the ball back on their 48-yard line, setting up a touchdown drive.
 * November 18, 1985: On a nationally televised Monday Night Football game between the Washington Redskins and the New York Giants, the score was tied 7-7 in the second quarter when the Redskins attempted a flea flicker. The play failed to trick the Giants' defense, which had the blitz on, and longtime Redskins quarterback Joe Theismann infamously suffered a career-ending injury after being sacked by Giants linebacker Lawrence Taylor: as Taylor tackled Theismann to make the sack, his entire weight came crashing down on Theismann's right leg, breaking it in two places.
 * January 25, 1987: In Super Bowl XXI, the New York Giants successfully ran a flea flicker play against the Denver Broncos: quarterback Phil Simms passed the ball to receiver Phil McConkey, who ran all the way to the Broncos' 1-yard line before being tackled for a 44-yard gain. The Giants scored a touchdown on the next play.
 * November 9, 1994: In the television show Beverly Hills, 90210, Season 05, Episode 10, "The Dreams of Dylan McKay," Steve Sanders uses the Flea Flicker play he learned from his father to win an intramural college flag football tournament.
 * January 3, 2009: During the NFC Wild Card, Kurt Warner successfully completed a flea flicker against the Atlanta Falcons with running back Edgerrin James and wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald. Warner and the Arizona Cardinals were finding early success running the ball in the first quarter of the game, so Warner handed the ball off to James, who ran about two yards towards the line of scrimmage and then turned and pitched the football back five yards to Warner. The pitch was almost unseen as the safeties and linebackers had their views blocked by the defensive line, which was collapsing on the running play. The play ended with a 50-yard pass (42 yards officially, from the original line of scrimmage) to Fitzgerald, who jumped backwards in the air while in double-coverage to make the catch in the front left corner of the endzone for the touchdown, which helped the Cardinals to take an early 7–0 lead, and ultimately win their first playoff game in ten years (it was also their first home playoff game in 61 years, when they were based in Chicago).
 * January 18, 2009: In the NFC Championship Game, Kurt Warner successfully completed a flea flicker play against the Philadelphia Eagles with running back J.J. Arrington and wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald. Warner passed to Arrington, who lateraled back to him before Warner completed a 62-yard pass to Fitzgerald to score a touchdown, which helped the Cardinals to increase their lead to 14–3 and win 32–25.
 * December 4, 2011: In the first game after acquiring quarterback Kyle Orton off waivers, Kansas City Chiefs starter Tyler Palko was benched due to ineffectiveness in the beginning of the second quarter in favor of Orton. The first play run for Orton was a designed flea-flicker, but strong safety Major Wright of the Chicago Bears struck Orton as he threw, causing the pass to fall incomplete and also injuring Orton's finger, causing him to miss the remainder of the game. The Chiefs ended up winning 10–3.
 * January 22, 2017: The New England Patriots ran a flea flicker 7:07 into the 2nd quarter of the AFC Championship game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Tom Brady handed the ball to running back Dion Lewis on what appeared to be a basic run on first-and-10, but as Lewis approached the line of scrimmage, he stopped and pitched the ball back to Brady, who scanned the field and found a wide-open Chris Hogan for a 34-yard pass to score a touchdown and give the Patriots a 17–6 lead. The Patriots won the game 36–17 en route to their fifth Super Bowl Championship.
 * January 21, 2018: The two Conference Championship games included three successful flea-flickers:
 * First, in the American Football Conference Championship Game, Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles handed off to T.J. Yeldon, who tossed the ball back to Bortles. Bortles then passed to Allen Hurns for a 20-yard gain against the New England Patriots.
 * Later in the fourth quarter, the Patriots scored with a flea-flicker pass from Tom Brady to Phillip Dorsett for 31 yards.
 * Finally, in the National Football Conference Championship Game, with the Philadelphia Eagles leading the Minnesota Vikings by 24–7, Eagles RB Corey Clement flicked the ball back to QB Nick Foles, who completed a 41-yard touchdown pass to WR Torrey Smith.

Reverse Flea Flicker
The rise of the spread offense in recent years has led to the rise of the reverse flea flicker (also known as the double reverse flea flicker), which is an extension of both the conventional flea flicker and a reverse play. The play starts with the quarterback handing the ball off to another player, usually a running back, who then laterals the ball to a receiver. The receiver then laterals the ball again back to the quarterback, who typically takes a shot deep downfield.

Throwback Flea Flicker
The throwback flea flicker is similar to the original flea flicker, but draws the defense to the outside rather than to the inside. The play typically begins with the quarterback pitching the ball to a running back, who runs outside as if the play were a sweep. However, as the ball carrier draws the defense to the outside, he turns and throws a backward pass to the quarterback, often leaving him free of any pass rush when he tries to throw downfield.

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Canadair Sabre

The Canadair Sabre is a jet fighter aircraft built by Canadair under licence from North American Aviation. A variant of the North American F-86 Sabre, it was produced until 1958 and used primarily by the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) until replaced with the Canadair CF-104 in 1962. Several other air forces also operated the aircraft.

The aircraft was produced in two significant batches. The first, the Mk. 2 and Mk. 4s, with fewer than 1,000 produced, were only slightly different from their US counterparts. The second run, the Mk. 5s and Mk. 6s of similar numbers, were patterned on the later versions of the US Sabre with larger wings for improved maneuverability while replacing the original General Electric J47 engine with the locally designed more-powerful Avro Canada Orenda.

The last of the Canadair Sabres in front-line operation were in Pakistan, whose AIM-9 Sidewinder-equipped Mk. 6 models were the backbone of their air force during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. These were slowly phased out after 1971, with the last examples leaving combat service in 1980. Although replaced by higher-performance designs in most other forces by the 1960s, late-model versions served in secondary roles into the 1970s.

Some Orenda-powered examples became famous for other feats. Most notable was the single Mk. 3, the test-bed for the Orenda fit, which Jacqueline Cochran used in 1953 to set several speed records, including becoming the first woman to break the sound barrier. Another, an ex-RCAF Mk. 6 that left service in 1974, went on to become Boeing's chase plane for test flights until 1991. Many of these later aircraft are now preserved in museums.

Design and development

In 1948, the Canadian government decided to re-equip the RCAF with the F-86 Sabre with Canadair contracted to produce them in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. An initial batch of 10 aircraft was ordered for tool verification. The Korean War changed this to a production batch of 100 aircraft. Canadair slowly built up its production facility to make all components with related equipment obtained from other Canadian suppliers. Canadair gave the Sabre the project number CL-13.

Canadair produced six versions of the CL-13 Sabre. The sole Sabre Mk.1 was essentially the same as the North American Sabre F-86A. It had a General Electric J47-GE-13 turbojet of 5,200 lbf thrust. The Sabre Mk.2 had the same engine, although after the first 20 aircraft were produced, the remainder of the production run was distinguished in having power-assisted controls and an "all-flying" tailplane. The sole Sabre Mk.3 was the first of the Canadian Sabres to use the Avro Canada Orenda turbojet (Orenda 3 with 6,000 lbf thrust). The Sabre Mk.4 retained the General Electric engine, was destined for the RAF and was later passed on to other overseas air forces. The Sabre Mk.5 was the next production version, equipped with an Orenda 10 with 6,500 lbf thrust. A change to the Orenda 14 with 7,440 lbf powered the Sabre Mk.6.

The last Sabre to be manufactured by Canadair (Sabre No. 1815), after being donated by the Pakistan Air Force, is now part of the permanent collection in the Western Canada Aviation Museum (WCAM) in Winnipeg, Manitoba. From 1950 to 1958, a total of 1,815 CL-13 Sabres were built at the Canadair plant in Montreal.

Operational history

The second generation of Canadair Sabre aircraft, and first to be built in quantity, was the Mk.2, with 350 produced from 1952 to 1953. The RCAF received 290 of these improved aircraft. During the first half of 1952, the remaining 60 Mk.2s were supplied to the U.S. Air Force for use in the Korean War. Most RCAF Mk.2 Sabres were utilized in the air defence role with NATO's No. 1 Air Division in Europe, proving itself to be an outstanding dogfighter. Others were assigned to the training role at bases in Canada. After replacement by the Sabre 5 in RCAF service from 1954, just over 210 surviving Sabre 2s were overhauled and modified in the UK and supplied in roughly equal numbers to the Greek Air Force and Turkish Air Forces.

In mid-1952, the Sabre Mk.4 went into production with the first one flown on 28 August 1952. Apart from some minor structural and systems changes, including improved air-conditioning and gun sight, the Mk 2 and the Mk 4 were identical. Of 438 Mk 4s built, approximately 70 were used temporarily by the RCAF, all surviving examples being passed to the RAF. The other Sabre 4s went directly to the RAF under a mutual aid program, equipping 11 RAF squadrons. The majority served in West Germany with NATO, with two squadrons being based in the UK as part of RAF Fighter Command. The Sabre Mk.4 served with the RAF until mid-1956 when they were replaced by Hawker Hunters. The survivors were overhauled in the UK, fitted with '6-3' wing modifications and handed to the USAF (which had funded these aircraft) which in turn passed them on to other NATO members, with the majority going to Italy and Yugoslavia.

On 30 July 1953, the first Sabre Mk.5 flew with the Orenda 10 engine, which gave it a clear rate of climb and ceiling advantage over earlier variants. Other Mk 5 improvements included a new oxygen system and improved maneuverability and low-speed characteristics achieved by increasing the wing chord by six in (15.2 cm) at the root and three in. (7.2 cm) at the wing tip along with fitting a small vertical wing fence. This modification, originated by North American on the F-86F, dramatically improved maneuverability, though the loss of the slatted leading edge increased landing speed and degraded low speed handling considerably. Canadair built 370 Mk 5s with the majority designated for use in the RCAF's Air Division squadrons in Europe to replace the Mk.2s. A total of 75 RCAF Sabre 5s were transferred to the German Luftwaffe during 1957.

The Canadair Sabre Mk.6 was the final variant and was considered to be the best production Sabre ever built. It was equipped with a two-stage Orenda engine developing 7,275 lb) of static thrust. Its altitude performance and climb rate was enhanced over the Mk 5 and the reinstatement of the wing leading edge slat gave it excellent low-speed characteristics. The first production model was completed on 2 November 1954 and ultimately 655 were built with production terminating on 9 October 1958.

A total of 390 Mk.6s went to the RCAF with the majority replacing the existing Canadair Sabre Mk.5s at the Air Division squadrons in West Germany and France. The main air threats to NATO in the 1950s in Central Europe were the early variants of the Soviet MiG- the MiG-15, MiG-17, MiG-19 and MiG-21. Based on the Korean War experience, the selection of the Mk.6 Sabre to provide an effective opposition to the MiG threat proved to be a logical one. Canada's commitment to NATO was to provide 12 squadrons located at four bases – two in France (Marville and Grostenquin) and two in West Germany (Zweibrücken and Baden Soellingen). Initially, the contribution consisted of only Sabre aircraft; however, later it was decided to include the Avro Canada CF-100 aircraft in the defense package to provide a night and all-weather fighter capability.

Though the main use of the Sabre by the RCAF was in Europe, they were also used by RCAF Auxiliary part-time units in Canada, replacing de Havilland Vampire jets. 400 "City Of Toronto" and 411 "County Of York" Squadrons based at RCAF Station Downsview near Toronto, as well as 401 "City Of Westmount" and 438 "City Of Montreal" Squadrons at RCAF Station St-Hubert near Montreal, were equipped with Sabre 5s, as was 442 "City Of Vancouver" Squadron at RCAF Station Sea Island, near Vancouver.

In addition to the RCAF deliveries, 225 Canadair Mk.6 Sabres were exported to the West German Luftwaffe, six were delivered to the Colombian Air Force, and 34 went to the South African Air Force.

In January 1966, Germany sold 90 of its Canadian Mk 6 Sabres to Iran. These aircraft were quickly transferred to Pakistan and became the main day fighter of the Pakistan Air Force.

Canadair Sabres were the mainstay of their respective air forces in the two major conflicts in which they were employed: the Korean War, where F-86 Sabres racked up a 6-1 kill record, and the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. The diminutive Folland Gnat was its main opponent in the Indo-Pakistan war. By the end of 1971, the Gnat proved to be a frustrating opponent for the larger, heavier and older Sabre. The Gnat was referred to as a "Sabre Slayer" by the Indian Air Force since most of its combat kills during the two wars were against Sabres. Although the Canadair Sabre Mk.6 was widely regarded as the best dogfighter of its era, tactics called for Gnats taking on the Sabres in the vertical arena, where the Sabres were at a disadvantage. Moreover, because the Gnat was lightweight and compact in shape, it was hard to see, especially at the low levels where most of the dogfights took place.

Women's speed records
In 1952, Jacqueline Cochran, then aged 47, decided to challenge the world speed record for women, then held by Jacqueline Auriol. She tried to borrow an F-86 from the U.S. Air Force, but was refused. She was introduced to an Air Vice-Marshal of the RCAF who, with the permission of the Canadian Minister of Defence, arranged for her to borrow 19200, the sole Sabre 3. Canadair sent a 16-man support team to California for the attempt. On 18 May 1953, Ms. Cochran set a new 100 km speed record of 1,050.15 km/h. Later on 3 June, she set a new 15 km closed circuit record of 1078 km/h. While she was in California, she exceeded 1270 km/h in a dive, and thus became the first woman to exceed the speed of sound.

Golden Hawks
The Golden Hawks were a Canadian aerobatic flying team that was established in 1959 to celebrate the Royal Canadian Air Force's 35th anniversary and the "Golden" 50th anniversary of Canadian flight, which began with the AEA Silver Dart in 1909. Initially, a six-plane team flying brilliantly painted metallic-gold Canadair Sabre Mk.5s, was envisioned as performing for only one year, but the Golden Hawks were so popular after their single 63-show season that the team was expanded. In the following year, another plane was added to the team, allowing for a five-plane main formation with two solo jets. The Golden Hawks continued performing for three more seasons, changing to the Mk 6 in 1961, until they were disbanded on 7 February 1964, having flown a total of 317 shows across North America.

Variants

 * Sabre Mk.1
 * One built, prototype F-86A.

 * Sabre Mk.2
 * 350 built, F-86E-type, 60 to USAF, three to RAF, 287 to RCAF.

 * Sabre Mk.3
 * One built in Canada, test-bed for the Orenda 3 jet engine, various other structural modifications were made to accommodate the Orenda engine.

 * Sabre Mk.4
 * 438 built, production: ten to RCAF, 428 to RAF as Sabre F 4.

 * Sabre Mk.5
 * 370 built, F-86F-type with Orenda engine, all to RCAF, 75 later passed to German Air Force.

 * Sabre Mk.6
 * 655 built, 390 to RCAF, 225 to Luftwaffe, six to Colombia and 34 to South Africa.

Operators

 * 🇨🇦 Canada
 * Royal Canadian Air Force
 * No. 400 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 401 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 410 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 411 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 413 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 414 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 416 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 421 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 422 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 427 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 430 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 434 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 438 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 439 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 441 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 442 Squadron RCAF
 * No. 444 Squadron RCAF

 * Colombian Air Force
 * German Air Force - operated 75 Canadair Sabre Mk 5 and 225 Canadair Sabre Mk 6, 1957–1964, flown by JG 71, JG 72, and JG 73. The last Mk 6 used for training was retired in 1983.
 * 🇬🇷 Greece
 * Royal Hellenic Air Force 120 used Canadair CL-13 Mk.4 acquired from Royal Canadian Air Force and redesignated as F-86E(M). Assigned to 341, 342, 343 Interceptor Squadrons (Μοίρες Αναχαιτίσεως) and retired in 1965.
 * Honduran Air Force Received 10 Ex-Yugoslav Air Force Sabres in 1976.
 * Italian Air Force operated 179 former Royal Air Force Canadair CL-13 Sabre Mk.4 supplied by the Mutual Defense Aid Program, redesignated F-86E(M) from 1956 until 1976
 * Pakistan Air Force - Operated 90 Ex-Luftwaffe CL-13B Mk.6s from 1966 to 1980 which were obtained via Iran.
 * No. 14 Squadron "Tail Choppers"
 * No. 17 Squadron "Tigers"
 * No. 18 Squadron
 * No. 19 Squadron "Warhawks"
 * Union of South Africa
 * South African Air Force
 * Turkish Air Force acquired ex-RCAF 107 Canadair CL-13 Sabre Mk.2 "F-86E(M)" in 1954, retired 1968.
 * Royal Air Force - Acquired three Canadair CL-13 Mark 2s and 428 Mark 4s, 8 December 1952 – 19 December 1953. During 1956–1958, 302 RAF Sabres were overhauled/modified in the UK and returned to the US Government (who, with the Canadians, had financed the aircraft for the Mutual Defense Aid Program) in camouflage colours with Canadian serials and redesignated as F-86E(M); of which 121 were then sent to Yugoslavia and 179 to Italy.
 * 3 Squadron 1953–1956 at RAF Wildenrath then RAF Geilenkirchen
 * 4 Squadron 1954–1955 at RAF Jever
 * 20 Squadron 1953–1955 at RAF Oldenburg
 * 26 Squadron 1953–1955 at RAF Oldenburg
 * 66 Squadron 1954–1956 at RAF Linton-on-Ouse
 * 67 Squadron 1953–1956 at RAF Wildenrath then RAF Bruggen
 * 71 Squadron 1953–1956 at RAF Wildenrath then RAF Bruggen
 * 92 Squadron 1954–1956 at RAF Linton-on-Ouse
 * 93 Squadron 1954–1956 at RAF Jever
 * 112 Squadron 1954–1956 at RAF Bruggen
 * 130 Squadron 1953–1956 at RAF Bruggen
 * 234 Squadron 1953–1956 at RAF Oldenburg then RAF Geilenkirchen
 * United States Air Force
 * JRV Yugoslav Air Force Received 46 former RAF Canadair CL-13 Mk.IV in 1956/57 through Mutual Defense Aid Program, and bought another 78 ex-RAF machines from MDAP in 1959, for a total of 121 Sabres, redesignated as F-86E(M).
 * 92 Squadron 1954–1956 at RAF Linton-on-Ouse
 * 93 Squadron 1954–1956 at RAF Jever
 * 112 Squadron 1954–1956 at RAF Bruggen
 * 130 Squadron 1953–1956 at RAF Bruggen
 * 234 Squadron 1953–1956 at RAF Oldenburg then RAF Geilenkirchen
 * United States Air Force
 * JRV Yugoslav Air Force Received 46 former RAF Canadair CL-13 Mk.IV in 1956/57 through Mutual Defense Aid Program, and bought another 78 ex-RAF machines from MDAP in 1959, for a total of 121 Sabres, redesignated as F-86E(M).
 * JRV Yugoslav Air Force Received 46 former RAF Canadair CL-13 Mk.IV in 1956/57 through Mutual Defense Aid Program, and bought another 78 ex-RAF machines from MDAP in 1959, for a total of 121 Sabres, redesignated as F-86E(M).
 * JRV Yugoslav Air Force Received 46 former RAF Canadair CL-13 Mk.IV in 1956/57 through Mutual Defense Aid Program, and bought another 78 ex-RAF machines from MDAP in 1959, for a total of 121 Sabres, redesignated as F-86E(M).

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MfD Nomination
I've nominated your user for deletion under the Miscellany for deletion process, since you have made few or no edits outside of your user page since you created it. User pages are intended for the use of active Wikipedia editors to aid them in their work. Your page seems intended to use Wikipedia as not a free webhost or promotional service, which Wikipedia is not.

We appreciate editor contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that your user page belongs here. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Hystaeminblumen. Don't forget to add four tildes ( ~ ) at the end of each of your comments to sign them. You are free to edit the content of the page during the discussion, but please do not remove the "Miscellany for Deletion" template (the box at the top). Doing so will not end the discussion. --Calton | Talk 02:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

title: User talk:Hystaeminblumen