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Talk:Linguistician

Importance
I didn't add the Importance template, but despite doing a fair bit of work on this article I agree that it's kinda pointless. I can't imagine why we need this article. --George 03:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Creator's comment
There was no article on the term “linguistician” or the controversy about it. The latter was admittedly small-scale and low-key, and occurred only occasionally over the years among a few linguisticians and a few others interested in the subject (like me) and in why they some of them insist so on not using a perfectly good and — above all — unambiguous term. Also, it is astonishing how some linguisticians really do seem to get het up about the term being used of them, so it seemed a description of the point was justified. IPH

 * Especially after this explanation of the coming about of this article, I'm afraid that the parts of it that aren't a dictionary definition qualify as original research. Wikipedia is only a tertiary source, which means that we only should report on issues on which we can cite sources (and verifiable ones at that). I don't think this has a place here. — mark ✎ 18:44, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Merge Article: Importance, POV, Verifiability
This article definitely needs to be merged with linguist. More specifically, a short paragraph ought to be added to that article relating the relative usage of the two terms and the reason (i.e. the ambiguity issue) that two terms are proposed. This article is really long for such an esoteric consideration. More to the point, much of the content seems to be A short paragraph in the other article ought to be enough to convey the basic information. I don't think an extended article on this issue is appropriate. This isn't the place for a thinly-disguised campaign to promote the term. If no one objects to this proposal, I will do it.
 * speculative ("A cynic might suggest in answer that they all hope that other people will assume they are polyglots, and therefore amazingly accomplished; but this is surely unworthy")
 * POV (Therefore the fact that linguisticians prefer the ambiguous term for themselves -- because of this prejudice, and probably also because when they tell other people they are "linguists" those people understand "polyglot" and are more impressed than they otherwise might be -- and the fact that some linguisticians have therefore campaigned against the term "linguistician", are most likely to be the real reasons why the unambiguous (and therefore prima faciae better) term does not predominate in current usage.")

Please see my user page and note that I am interested in resolving the confusion resulting from the ambiguity in the terms linguistics and linguist which is rampant in many wikipedia articles on those and related topics. Torgo 08:48, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Absolutely. It's POV, constitutes original research and grossly exaggerates the importance of the word 'linguistician'. At best, the etymological part is a dicdef and should be moved to wiktionary. This does have no place here. — mark ✎ 09:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

 * in that case, I will add a sentence or two in the linguist page mentioning the term, and turn this page into a redirect to linguist. --Torgo 06:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I have put a redirect at the top of the article to linguist, adding mention of the term on that page. For now I have left the text of the article, to make it easier in case anyone wants to copy some more of the info to the linguist article. I strongly recommend brevity, however. --Torgo 07:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Deleted article content (all that's left is the redirect) Torgo 08:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

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Budaka District

Budaka District is a district in the Eastern Region of Uganda. The town of Budaka serves as the district headquarters.

Location
Budaka district is bordered by Pallisa District to the north, Mbale District to the east, Butaleja District to the south, and Kibuku District to the west. The town of Budaka is approximately 36 km west of Mbale, the largest city in the sub-region.

Overview
The district consists of Budaka County and Iki-Iki County.

Population
In 1991, the national population census estimated the population of the district at 100,300. The 2002 national census estimated the population at 136,500, with an annual population growth rate of 2.8 percent. In 2012, the population was estimated at 178,900.

Economic activities
In 2009, Uganda Clays Limited opened a tile and brick manufacturing plant at Kamonkoli. The factory employs over 200 people.

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title: Budaka District


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pyromaniax

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was speedied as copyvio (it even said "copyright" at the bottom of the article. -R. fiend 01:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Pyromaniax
Non-notable group, vanity, advertisement. Would be A7 speedy if it were about a single person. Article written in German. Ilmari Karonen 01:22, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

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Love, Inc. (TV series)

Love, Inc. is an American television sitcom created by Andrew Secunda, which originally aired for one season on United Paramount Network (UPN) from September 22, 2005, to May 11, 2006. With an ensemble cast led by Busy Philipps, Vince Vieluf, Reagan Gomez-Preston, Ion Overman and Holly Robinson Peete, the show revolves around five matchmakers working at a dating agency. The series was produced by Chase TV, the Littlefield Company, Burg/Koules Television, and Paramount Television. It was distributed by UPN in its original run and later by LivingTV and Nelonen in the United Kingdom and Finland respectively. The executive producers were Adam Chase, Warren Littlefield, Mark Burg and Oren Koules.

The series was originally developed as a vehicle and sitcom debut for Shannen Doherty under the working title Wingwoman. Though picked up by UPN, Doherty was removed from the project at the request of the network due to her poor reception by preview audiences; she was replaced by Philipps. The show was set in New York City, but filming took place at Paramount Studios in Hollywood, Los Angeles and other locations in California. It included contemporary hip hop music and was promoted heavily by UPN to attract an urban audience, and to that end it was paired with Everybody Hates Chris as its lead-in on Thursday nights.

Love, Inc. suffered from low viewership despite its high ratings among young Hispanic women; it was canceled following UPN's merger with the WB to launch the CW in 2006. The series' cancellation, along with that of other black sitcoms, was criticized by media outlets for reducing representation of African American characters and the amount of roles for African American actors on television. Critical response to Love, Inc. was mixed; some critics praised its multi-ethnic cast, while others felt that the storylines and characters were unoriginal and Philipps' portrayal of her character was unsympathetic.

Premise
Set in New York City, the dating agency Love, Inc. features a staff of single friends desperately looking for love. Newly divorced Clea Lavoy, the founder and owner of the company, seeks out the help of her friend and employee Denise Johnson to reignite her romantic life. She struggles continually to find love despite Denise's best attempts. The future of the agency is jeopardized since its success relied on advertising Clea's "successful", nearly decade-long marriage. Love, Inc. also includes the receptionist Viviana, the style expert Francine, and the technician and photographer Barry.

Episodes typically depict the inner workings of the agency, such as their first experience with a lesbian client, a consultation with a former priest, and marketing strategies to appeal to geeks and agoraphobes. Hired as wingmen for their clients, the employees act as "guardian angels for the conversationally challenged". Each of the characters has various comedic and romantic adventures outside the agency, like Viviana's search for an eligible United States citizen to marry to secure a green card and Denise's inability to find true love despite her talent in matching her clients with their "seemingly unattainable soulmates".

Characters
The series features the following five main characters throughout its run:

 * Busy Philipps as Denise Johnson, a dating consultant and self-described expert at matchmaking, who provides her clients with "come-on lines to use and avoid; wardrobe and grooming hints, and conversation starters and stoppers". Despite being characterized as "the Kung Fu master at setting up freaks", she struggles to find her own true love. After being contacted by her ex-boyfriend to find his perfect match, she becomes cynical about dating and love, saying "I've been Wing Womaning my butt off". Philipps described the character's love life as a "complete disaster".
 * Vince Vieluf as Barry, Denise's roommate and co-worker who serves as the agency's technician and photographer. Described as an "idiot savant", he is characterized as a conspiracy theorist who experiences paranoia about everything from dentists to toothpaste companies. He frequently communicates through "head-scratching non sequiturs", leading the characters to perceive him as "operat[ing] on a whole other level ... and sometimes on a whole other planet". Vieluf said the character was pitched as "the only guy on the show" and "the luckiest guy in the world".
 * Reagan Gomez-Preston as Francine, the agency style expert, who encourages her clients to use and trust their fashion as a way to find a partner. She is introduced criticizing Clea's outfit as belonging to a coach for a women's basketball team and is characterized as the hip worker at the agency. Francine's storylines were not fully developed and "remain[ed] a bit of a mystery" by the end of the show. According to Vieluf, Francine communicates through a "whole different language" and has a special bond with Barry because of their different approaches to life.
 * Ion Overman as Viviana, the Argentinian receptionist who "solicits personal information in a rather startling way". She is constantly searching for an eligible American citizen to marry to secure a green card. Her heavy accent is used as a source of humor on the show, which led the Chicago Tribune to accuse the show's writers of reducing the character to an ethnic stereotype.
 * Holly Robinson Peete as Clea Lavoy, the founder and owner of the Love, Inc. dating agency. Clea is "thrust into the dating world" following the end of her nearly decade-long marriage, during which her husband has an affair with a younger woman. She is involved in several relationships over the course of the series, such as dating a former priest and having an on-and-off relationship with David. She has a close friendship with her employees, particularly with Denise.

Production
Love, Inc. was developed with the working title Wing Woman and promoted as a "new 'Hitch'-esque comedy". The show's concept was based on an article in The New York Times that discussed dating services. Production was handled by Chase TV, the Littlefield Company, Burg/Koules Television, and Paramount Television. The Littlefield Company suggested that the show's creator, Andrew Secunda, collaborate with executive producer Adam Chase, who had previously worked on Friends. Marta Kauffman, Liz Tuccillo, Mark Burg and Oren Koules also contributed to the series as executive producers. On April 12, 2005, United Paramount Network (UPN) announced that Doherty was in talks for the lead role while Reagan Gomez-Preston was being considered for the role of the lead character's "longtime friend, co-worker and roommate" and Ion Overman for an unspecified part. Overman said that she was attracted to the part since she was searching for a job and viewed the series as a "very cool concept". On April 18, Holly Robinson Peete was confirmed to have joined the cast as the boss to Doherty's character.

The series was originally designed as a star vehicle for Doherty, who portrayed Denise Johnson in the unaired pilot. Denise was Doherty's first role in a television sitcom. Doherty said that she loved the script for the pilot immediately, describing it as "hysterical", but felt intimidated by the role given her inexperience with comedy. The series was marketed initially as featuring Doherty and Peete, before UPN announced that it would pick up the show on the condition that Doherty was removed and the character was recast. According to TV Guide, Doherty was poorly received by preview audiences. When asked about Doherty's removal from the show, executive producer Warren Littlefield said the actress was "fabulous" in the role. He believed Doherty wanted to change her negative reputation from leaving Beverly Hills, 90210 and Charmed by acting on the show. Peete praised her performance saying "we had so much fun and such a great vibe". UPN Entertainment's president cited the rationale behind Doherty's departure using the "standard going-in-a-different-direction reason". Rachel Cericola of TV Fodder listed Love, Inc. as one of the "four promising sitcoms for the upcoming TV season" as a result of the behind the scenes drama involving Doherty's replacement.

UPN announced that Busy Philipps was cast as Denise on July 25, and was later billed as the show's star. In her 2018 memoir, Philipps said she was initially reluctant to play the part due to UPN's treatment of Doherty, writing: "they had decided to replace her only after they had trotted her out at the up-fronts and used her for publicity, which I thought was a fairly shitty thing to do". According to Vince Vieluf, the casting change from Doherty to Philipps led to the series being retooled as an ensemble show featuring all the members of the agency rather than focusing on Denise. Vieluf said the alterations in the series' premise were due to concerns that "people would get tired of a show that was only about the mishaps of one person's love life".

Page Kennedy reported that he was considered for a part on the show, but rejected it for the role of Caleb Applewhite on the second season of the ABC drama Desperate Housewives. Retired Los Angeles Lakers player Rick Fox guest-starred in three episodes as David, one of Clea's love interests. Meghan Markle appeared in the episode "One on One" as a subway station worker. The casting of racially diverse actors was identified with UPN's position as "the only network to actively program for an African American audience". Tim Good of the San Francisco Chronicle pointed to the show's casting as the only way in which it acts as a "positive reference".

Even though the show was set in New York City, filming took place in the Bluhdorn Building at Paramount Studios in Hollywood, and used the multiple-camera format. Aaron Korsh wrote the nineteenth episode as freelance work. Each episode title, with the exception of the pilot, was taken from the names of past sitcoms. Transitions between scenes feature images of New York City set to contemporary music, such as The Black Eyed Peas' 2005 single "Don't Phunk with My Heart" and Kelis' 2003 single "Milkshake". Todd R. Ramlow of PopMatters described the music as a further attempt to appeal to "an 'urban', black-white audience," and praised it as a "nice try at crossover for a network whose shows usually target a black demographic".

Broadcast history
On August 6, 2005, UPN officially ordered thirteen episodes of the series. The network later ordered a full season of twenty-two episodes of the show on November 7, 2005, amid speculation that it would be canceled. In 2006, LivingTV broadcast the series in the United Kingdom, and it was broadcast by Nelonen in Finland in 2008. UPN paired the series with Everybody Hates Chris, Eve, and Cuts to attract an "urban" audience. The network moved WWE SmackDown to Fridays in favor of scheduling Thursdays as focused on sitcoms. This decision was made to establish a "night of scripted programming" and to attract more advertising from film studios to promote upcoming releases. Today questioned the network's belief that Love, Inc. and Everybody Hates Chris would appeal to the same viewership, and noted the difference in quality between the two, with Love, Inc. cited as the inferior show. While the series retained 59% of the audience from Everybody Hates Chris initially, this marketing strategy proved unsuccessful when it lost a majority of the viewership in later episodes.

Cericola reported that Love, Inc. earned an average of 3.6 million viewers per episode and an article in The Hollywood Reporter stated that the series garnered an average of 1.0/3 Nielsen rating/share in the 18–49 demographic. It ranked 141st among broadcast television networks in the 2005–2006 television season. According to the Nielsen Company, the show achieved high ratings among "Latina adolescents Ages 12–17" and earned 3.4 million viewers in that demographic in 2005. It ranked above two other UPN sitcoms: One on One and Half & Half for Latin women in the 12–17 age demographic, and in "the top half of all UPN series" for total viewership. The series premiere saw a 6% increase in the 18–49 age range, 53% in women between 18 and 34, and 118% in women between 18 and 49 from the show that aired in the same time period during the previous television season.

The show, as well as a majority of UPN's programs, were officially canceled as a result of the network's merger with the WB Television Network (the WB) to form the CW in 2006. Fern Gillespie of The Crisis was critical of UPN's decision to cancel the series given how the network "in one swoop, wiped out five of its eight African American comedies" for the creation of the CW. Gillespie expressed disappointment at the lack of African American sitcoms on the three major networks saying: "Without that opportunity for some of the younger artists to hone and develop their skills, it will potentially have a generational impact." Critic Tim Goodman identified Love, Inc. as one of six shows "geared for an African American audience" and featuring "an African American lead actress" that were canceled during the merger. He equated these cancellations as a sign of networks "eliminat[ing] niche programming". The series has not been made available on Blu-ray or DVD.

Critical reception

Love, Inc. received mixed critical feedback when it was first broadcast. Ebony 's Zondra Hughes included the show in its list of promising prime-time television shows featuring African-American actors, and identified Peete and Overman as its primary "star appeal". While reviewing its broadcast on LivingTV, a reviewer from Daily Record listed the show as its "pick of the day" and suggested it for viewers who "fancy a giggle". Diane Werts of Newsday found the characters to be "vibrantly well-defined" and the writing "smart, with a light touch". Peete received a nomination for the NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Actress in a Comedy Series in the 37th NAACP Image Awards, but lost to Tichina Arnold who starred in Everybody Hates Chris. According to Philipps, Quentin Tarantino is a fan of the series.

Metacritic assigned a score of 28 out of 100 based on aggregate of 17 reviews, indicating "generally unfavorable reviews". The Futon Critic's Brian Ford Sullivan praised Vieluf as the standout despite his limited role, but felt the execution of the matchmaking premise was inferior to that done in the 2005 film Hitch. The series was described as having "a quirky vibe, personable cast and snappy writing" by Variety 's Laura Fries, but she felt the storylines and characters required more original material. Although they commended the show for its multi-ethnic cast, Jon Bonné and Gael Fashingbauer Cooper of Today wrote that it "struggles to salvage some screechingly bad jokes". Paul Brownfield of the Los Angeles Times criticized the series for being "unintentionally unfunny", comparing it to the fictional sitcom Room and Bored featured in the HBO comedy drama The Comeback. The Chicago Tribune 's Maureen Ryan called the series a "grating comedy ... destined to be a footnote in history as the show that premiered after Everybody Hates Chris, and most likely faded shortly thereafter".

Critics responded negatively to the character of Denise and Philipps' performance, citing both as annoying and unsympathetic. Heffernan found that Denise lacked the charm and charisma of Cher Horowitz from the 1995 film Clueless. USA Today 's Robert Bianco gave the series a half of a point out of four, and summarized Philipps' performance as "constant motion; her face contorting, body twitching, voice braying" that transformed the show into something "truly unbearable". Citing the series as a "one-joke affair", Matthew Gilbert of The Boston Globe wrote that the premise behind Denise had the "same irony that failed to make Alicia Silverstone's Miss Match very interesting". The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette 's Rob Owen favored Doherty's portrayal of the character, which he described as "brimming with self-confidence," and characterized Philipps' Denise as a "dizzyingly neurotic nutcase". Ramlow asserted that the show's female characters were "needy and desperate" and "one-shtick ponies" in comparison to those from Sex and the City.

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Board of Education of Kiryas Joel Village School District v. Grumet

Board of Education of Kiryas Joel Village School District v. Grumet, 512 U.S. 687 (1994), was a case in which the United States Supreme Court ruled on the constitutionality of a school district created with boundaries that matched that of a religious community – in this case, the Satmar community of Kiryas Joel, New York. The case was argued by Nathan Lewin on behalf of Kiryas Joel, Julie Mereson on behalf of the State of New York, and Jay Worona on behalf of the respondents.

Opinion of the court
The court, in an opinion by Justice Souter, held that the creation of a school district unit of government designed to coincide with the neighborhood boundaries of a religious group constitutes an unconstitutional aid to religion. Souter concluded that "government should not prefer one religion to another, or religion to irreligion": "There is more than a fine line between the voluntary association that leads to a political community comprising people who share a common religious faith, and the forced separation that occurs when the government draws explicit political boundaries on the basis of peoples' faith. In creating the district in question, New York crossed that line."

Dissent
Justice Scalia, in his dissent, acknowledged that the residents of this district are Satmar Hasidic Jews, but noted of the Satmar community:

"[A]ll its residents also wear unusual dress, have unusual civic customs, and have not much to do with people who are culturally different from them ... On what basis does Justice Souter conclude that it is the theological distinctiveness rather than the cultural distinctiveness that was the basis for New York State's decision? The normal assumption would be that it was the latter, since it was not theology but dress, language, and cultural alienation that posed the educational problem for the children."

Scalia argued that the Satmar school district aided the Satmars as a culture rather than a religion, and thus did not constitute impermissible aid to a religious group. The majority, Scalia asserted, would "laud this humanitarian legislation if all of the distinctiveness of the students of Kiryas Joel were attributable to the fact that their parents were nonreligious commune dwellers, or American Indians, or Gypsies," and concluded that "creation of a special, one-culture school district for the benefit of those children would pose no problem. The neutrality demanded by the Religion Clauses requires the same indulgence towards cultural characteristics that are accompanied by religious belief."


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User:Redwolf24/Archive23

Medcom of wheels!??
Are you Willy? :D - Guettarda 19:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * <.< >.>  uh... uh........... TINWOW! <_<  R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Mediation Committee
Hi Matt. Thanks for promoting me. I'd warn you, though, that I'm off on holiday in ten days' time, so I won't be able to mediate anything until I get back. Hope this is okay. Looking forward to working with you! Cheers, [[Sam Korn ]] 22:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * No problem, I'll assign you a case when you get back. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

207.6.224.18
I would appreciate if you could weigh in at WP:AN/I. N (t/c) 00:59, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Mistaken identity. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 01:08, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

These looked yummier than the Wiki-Cupcakes

 * Those do look great!! Thanks Frep :D R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 01:56, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Blocked
You've been blocked for 17 seconds for being a page move vandal. -- Essjay ·  Talk 04:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * You b-d! Just wait until I find Jimbo! -- Essjay ·  Talk 04:41, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Calm down, children, and be nice... ;) Tito xd (?!?) 04:51, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Children please blocking is not a game. -JCarriker 04:54, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Because the comment was posted after the page-move, I didn't even realise until I saw it on AN/I. Missed out on all the fun :(  Guettarda 14:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * It's apparently been blown into a lot more than it ever should have; there are days when I wonder why we bother at all. -- Essjay ·  Talk 18:28, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Please give yourself a Noogie for 17 seconds for being a rogue admin. Friday (talk) 18:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

WP:AN/I
Morons over at WP:AN/I are accusing you of being WOW. I've leapt to your defense as have a few others, but thought you might want a heads up. Agriculture 14:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! I will be sure and do that. Have a good one.Shelburne Kismaayo 22:28, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * What? You're withdrawing from the ArbCom elections because of this? Oh, come on, man, that's even worse than feeding the trolls! It's better to have someone with humor than a robot working at RFAr. Tito xd (?!?) 22:49, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Don't say feeding the trolls as I happen to highly respect Curps and Sjakkale. Yes I'm withdrawing after their advice. I didn't have much of a chance anyway. I could go on with reasons, but I really don't want to. Cheers. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:52, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I wasn't calling them trolls, as they're good admins, but I was rather making a reference to trolling itself. But I seriously urge you to reconsider. Tito xd (?!?) 22:54, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Stop! Thief!
I have blatantly stolen your traffic lights for my own page.

You might want to change the purge link to:

[ (Purge Server Cache) ]

This will get rid of the external link flag, and will let you trasclude it to both your user page and your talk page, automagically getting the purge link right for both locations. --GraemeL (talk) 15:39, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Or you can use {{purge|Insert link text here}}... Alphax τεχ 01:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Withdrawal
Just wondering why you withdrew yourself from the arbcom nominations. I thought you'd make a good arbitrator. — Ilγαηερ   (Tαlκ)  22:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh never mind I read above...Well sorry about that and good luck with everything else you do :D — Ilγαηερ   (Tαlκ)  22:59, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Stress

Don't let this triviality get you down, and don't let it dissuade you from aspiring to better serve this community. As you have often said, every time we lose a good user (whether they quit outright, or refuse to serve because they have been bitten savagely by others) the idiot quotent goes up. This is far below you, and I refuse to allow this to bring down a great contributor like yourself. I simply will not allow it. Now, drink this coffe, and go re-post your nomination. GO! -- Essjay ·  Talk 23:49, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Redwolf24, please understand that you are a valued contributor here, and all your work is deeply appreciated. As I said to Essjay earlier, go enjoy your Wiki-Break — God knows you deserve it — but make sure you rejoin us, refreshed and ready. I sincerly hope to see you soon. Regards, Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:51, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, please don't let a couple of lunatics get your down. Feel free to take a short break, but DON'T LEAVE ME HERE ALONE ;) — Ilγαηερ   (Tαlκ)  23:59, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Short breaks are always good, but be sure to come back quickly, ok? Remember that you're valued at Wikipedia. But have you drank Essjay's coffee already? It's his special Esperanzian brew... how can you refuse it? ;) Tito xd (?!?) 00:03, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, we all need breaks now and then. You have an awesome sense of humor, but some people can't take some kinds of jokes (I'm guilty of that myself sometimes). Here's a barnstar because I appreciate your humor. Enjoy your wikibreak. H e rmione1980 00:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, let me second that. Sometimes, things get blown out of proportion. In my opinion, you should still run for ArbCom. Don't change, go wikify something, and then come back soon! We need you! Bratsche talk 00:12, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I stayed a little longer at school than I usually do, and I just came home to find you burned out? Redwolf, don't let that ordeal chase you off (well, I know you said you weren't leaving for good, but still...) You're a very genuine, kind person, and I hate to see you leave so abruptly. I truly meant what I said when I gave you my RfA thank you and belated happy birthday; you're that good of an admin. In the meantime, take a short break, collect your thoughts, come back, and post your ArbCom nomination again. I will support you the minute you repost it.  Rob e  rt  00:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Burned out over this little joke? While maybe it didn't show the best judgment, the community has certainly overreacted. Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 01:34, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * As you know, I'm one of the most paranoid anti-WoWers there is, and although I didn't find out about it until later, I find what you did very amusing. I think we need more of your good humour. Alphax τεχ 01:59, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Not being a very touchy feely type, still wanted to tell you to simply take a break and don't let stuff get under your skin. You've been kind of moving in a meteoric rate so perhaps slow things down a bit and just do some simple RC Patrol.--MONGO 02:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Take 2 and come back in the morning (please) - User:Mys e kurity|Mysekurity ]] additions | e-mail ]]03:27, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Redwolf. Sorry that I felt the need to "disendorse" your arbitration candidacy... it was perhaps more a reaction made in anger rather than one of clear thinking. Give it a few weeks, and that kind of thing will blow over. I still think your a great person to have on board. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:53, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Please don't drop your candidacy! I'll still vote for you. I don't see the big deal about what you did. Sorry about all the stress. N (t/c) 19:08, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Phil Hendrie
Hi - I'm just wondering why you reverted edits by User:129.44.7.15 on Phil Hendrie on Oct. 7. I didn't want to revert back that user's edits until I consulted you. It's cool either way, I know that page is vandalized a lot, but it didn't look like vandalism. Thanks, FranksValli 04:24, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Tern is back as anon IP
Thought you might want to know, if you didn't already, that blocked User:Tern appears to be editing somewhat regularly as User:193.39.159.3. He's been deleting text claiming copyvio -- but I think it's that he is trying to remove his previous contributions from Wikipedia. Cheers -- ManekiNeko | Talk 12:22, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

MedCom
Redwolf24, as stated above, I sincerly hope you'll come back soon. In the meantime, though, we're missing a chair at the MedCom! I hope you don't mind if I ask MGM to come back to his position as chair while you're enjoying your Wiki-break and getting refreshed; we do need a chair, as WP:RfM is active again, thanks to you. :-) I'm sure MGM wouldn't mind taking the position temporarily, but do make sure to come back to us soon! Hoping to see you again, Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:12, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * (Rejoices) I just heard Essjay say that you're going to be back tomorrow at the latest, so never mind. I'm sure WP:RfM won't suffer that much... ;-) I'll be the first to welcome you back (on wheels), then! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 23:15, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yay, you're back!!!! :) Tito xd (?!?) 01:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Nope, not yet. Probablty will be in a few hours, or tomorrow... I'm lounging around at IRC though. And I am checking my watchlist. See you later! R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 01:31, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Nah, you seem like a Sunshine State based String Instrumentalist to me ;-) . Anyhow, you think the comments on the various talk pages(Flcello and Kelly Martin) and the Medcom Page will help answer any doubts from that? You should get rid of that stop light, situations like these are why I don't use one, this place is too damn addictive to just quit. Karmafist 02:12, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't violate WP:BEANS, I'm very competitive and I will quit if you say that I'm not able to ;-P Mmmm Catch 22. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:15, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yay, now you're back! Now I can lower my Wikistress meter. :) Welcome back! Tito xd (?!?) 19:47, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * lol, No Beans here. Sure, Wikipedia would suck alot more if you left for good, but i'm just thinking of all the newbies who will be looking at that stoplight and wondering why you aren't "there" ;-)
 * My guess is that you'd do that just so you can surprise block them for 1.2 seconds, reasserting your title as rouge-est admin in the universe..Karmafist 03:58, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * 1.2 seconds? >xD /me goes off to delete the Main Page... R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:02, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Muscle Activation Technique
Hello,

I am new to Wikipedia and I was wondering why you deleted my article: Muscle Activation Technique?

Connor
 * It was determined that it was a copyright violation from this page. Tito xd (?!?) 02:35, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA
Dear Redwolf24: I would like to thank you very much for your support on my RfA. I am most honoured by the trust that has been placed in me by yourself and other members of the Wikipedia community; I shall use my administrative privileges only to assist the community in doing good work, and bringing peace to the wiki. I also promise to be calm, considerate and careful in working to make Wikipedia a better place. Your company on IRC is, as always, a true pleasure, and your kind words about me are greatly appreciated - I had no idea I was so well regarded by such a large number of people. Once again, thank you; I am sure I shall see you around IRC. Best regards, -- NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 02:40, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!!
I greatly appreciate you watching my back by reverting that edit to my user page. Do yourself a favor and enjoy your break. I can't say I blame you. :) - Lucky 6.9 05:05, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

A Pindaric Ode on the Late Unpleasantness

 * Ode

 * Red wolves in many forms attend
 * In ranks you stand, in packs you wend,
 * And all admire this Sir One Score
 * The fear'd Red Wolf, O, twenty-four.
 * You take choice lambs, the farmer's woe,
 * But he came here and got their goats!
 * By seeming and speaking a bit wheely
 * He set the dull wits to squealing.
 * "No Arb," they cried, "let's get a noose!
 * And trap and skin this lupi rus!"

Geogre 12:40, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Moving that to User:Redwolf24/Poetry. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 19:49, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

request
Hi Red :) - any idea how to explain to someone that neoligism doesn't belong on wikipedia? Someone is threatning to "report me to an admin" if I remove the neoligism from the article again, see Talk:Autistic_culture (Note: wikitionary word was made by the same person). Person also accused me of biting newbies both on their talk page and through two seperate private e-mails :-(. Ryan Norton T 16:18, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Just tell them that we try to keep a certain level of integrity and we prefer to use words you can find in a dictionary. Whether it be at www.dictionary.com or Webster's. ...By the way is the neologism you mean 'Aspie'? cause I see that word around so much I'd say its legit... R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 19:49, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * No, it's 'Aspiette'. Which is the coinage of one person (she admits it) and has not, so far as I can see, been picked up elsewhere. ManekiNeko | Talk 00:04, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza Advisory Committee Elections
Since you're Esperanza's official spamster, you might want to consider Bratsche's suggestion on the Elections talk page. He's asking if it would be a good idea to send a message to all our members telling them about the election, since they might not have the Esperanza pages watchlisted, and don't know about the election as a result. Tito xd (?!?) 17:11, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I'll tell the spam list, but not every member. I said I'm not gonna spam them unless they want it, and I know a lot of members don't want to vote. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 19:49, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Actually, no, I won't. A lot of them have voted and I don't want to spam them again, wasting my time and theirs. What I WILL do though, which is just as effective, is put in red font at the top of WP:ESP a notice of the elections. Every member should have that watchlisted. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 19:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back
Hope you enjoyed the (rather short) wikibreak. Glad to see you back. --GraemeL (talk) 19:45, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah. it was short. I'm addicted, plus if I made it too long I'd lose my medcom chair! R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 19:52, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Does the medcom chair have a massage function? It might help reduce wikistress. --GraemeL (talk) 19:54, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * No... but it does come with a free masseuse. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 20:01, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

disruption
Thanks for the update, new to this will read more on the FAQ sorry for the disruption!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.237.211 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 8 October 2005

 * Ah, no problem. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:08, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank You and Welcome Back
Thank You for your support in MY RFA but Im going to withdrewing it and I wont do a self-nomination no more. I just make u or Essjay or anybody else nominate me later probaly in Late November the earliest when I reach the Golden 3 month status or 2000 edits. I knew it was too soon and I knew I wasn't going to be a admin too early it was more of a try and see where I stand vote and It was late also and I had a annoying vandal in my face so I wasn't really thinking much nither. And oh yeah Welcome back How was your wikibreak. --JAranda'' | yeah 22:18, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

 * twas good. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:19, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Quistion about the Servers
Im having problems with the servers here and thats what is limiting my edits right now especially that Im trying to expand NFL football stubs and catigorising them which going to take me more than a week to do and I need all the time I could get. Do u know if the same thing with the servers are happening right now to other users including u or only me. Thanks --JAranda'' | yeah 02:07, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, they're slow for the time being, that's all. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:13, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Now its a bit faster but now I can't barley edit at all I got d/c and got this blocked IP number 205.188.116.195 as my main AOL IP number for the time being and I could only edit talk pages. Could u please unblock it I really appriciated --JAranda'' | yeah 02:24, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Unblocked. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:27, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

IndoPak relations
Hey Redwolf, thanks for asking me to take on the above mediation. I'd be pleased to give it my best shot, and I'm honored that you asked. Do you have any links you can forward me regarding guidelines for mediators, or anything else I should know? Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 03:12, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * You are a lifesaver. See your talk. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 03:17, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Redwolf, the disputes I had with Idleguy have been resolved, I think. As for Terrorism in Pakistan, it has reached a point I think which is as neutral as it can get considering both sides (please see talk page and the edit history of the article). I have compromised fairly.

As for State Terrorism, you can look at the edit history on seeing the clear POV that was being added by Idleguy. It was basically a whitewash attempt of the India section and an attempt at POVing the Pakistan section. The initial editor involved was User:Deepak gupta and I had a compromise with him (see [User ) and we both agreed even though he shared the same POV as idleguy. Idleguy reverted immediately despite my agreement with gupta, thus indicating that he was only here only to insert POV. I have tried compromises with Idleguy, but he refuses to agree. I have refrained from making changes to the state terrorism article now and hope that Idleguy will too. See the edit history of that article for details.

I can only hope that Idleguy will work productively and neutrally in the future. Thanks, a.n.o.n.y.m   t 03:58, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * You still seem to have a dispute with Idleguy... mediation is always open! R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:01, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * See? I solved it already. ;-D SlimVirgin (talk) 04:09, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * You know me SV. It's not in my best interest to dispute for long. It takes two or more to dispute and I usually work in the most disputed of articles. You might be seeing a lot more of me redwolf. :) -- a.n.o.n.y.m   t 04:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Well Slim, if you thouoght that was fun, join us :P R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:12, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * So redwolf are we fine then? -- a.n.o.n.y.m  t 04:14, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Yup. R e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks, but now how the heck do I make the other 50 or so mediators involved in the case aware that this is over? -- a.n.o.n.y.m  t 04:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * o.O next time just go to WP:RFM and file a case. The only mediators involved will be me and whoever I assign you, plus you'll have people with experience. How do you tell them? User talk pages will do... R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:23, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

From the Most Attractive Pollworker of them all
That's great about Jimbo liking my name, now if I can get a supermodel to say the same thing, I'll be all set ;-) Speaking of which, and no offense to Essjay or anything, but I changed the name "Poll" to "Election" just because a "Poll Worker" sounds like the long lost member of the Village People, and I just can't handle that consider how much of a Sausage Fest Wikipedia seems like lately. Dammit, where are my Wiki-hookers!?! I'm not going to preview, but I am going to laugh my ass off if Sausage Fest isn't redlinked...Karmafist

 * Haha, its bluelinked, and I've seen it before. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 03:25, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello
So I'm back and I promise to be good and not make too much stupid article. I was jst wondering how you blocked me fro so long and such, i mean is that proper? No hard feeling though!Wiki brah 03:59, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Let me tell you this now, most people wanted to indefinitely block you, so you should thank me. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:04, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Re:The RfA
Yeah, but it didn't look like any of those 7 opposed you because you tried to help them out and failed miserably at it. Eh, it's not a big deal. Fadix is just a small drip of water coming out of a crack that feels like the crumbling dam of my life right now. Karmafist 04:56, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I have my share of people who I've tried to help and failed, I am a mediator after all. Well none of my med cases have resulted in that, but in other places it happens a lot. I'm often volunteering to mentor people (as of right now I'm mentoring User:Uriah923, User:Copperchair, and Wiki brah. I know it sucks, but don't get yourself down. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 05:06, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Wikitest. I scored a WOPPING 475. Lemme know if you beat that!
How about 602? (Gee... I almost beat Essjay!) Tito xd (?!?) 06:37, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * After seeing that I retook the test. I scored a 630.3 ;-) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 18:02, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Got fur?
Welcome back!

Now, can I be a pest and see if you want to add yourself to Category:Furry Wikipedians? :) Bushytails 20:13, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Sure. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 20:29, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, good, I always like to get approval before being a pest.

 * So, on to being a pest! Would you like to add yourself to the category?  (normally I'd give instructions, but I'll figure you know)...  Or are you not furry after all?  :)  --Bushytails 21:48, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

WoW alert
saw user creation log Cant block not a Admin maybe u can --JAranda'' | yeah 21:44, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Taken care of R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 21:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration
This is to advise you that a Request for Arbitration has been filed against you by an anonymous user, who seems unable or unwilling to inform you themselves. The details can be found at WP:Arb. Rob Church Talk 22:09, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

The people pursuing him are severely disturbed and it is my clinical opinion many of them are psychopaths and sociopaths with severe personality disorders.

Her clinical opinion, huh? - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 22:18, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * And it is my considered opinion she should focus on her husband and heal him instead. If it is indeed his wife posting, which I doubt. Jeff has a history of trying to hide behind sockpuppets; but most parties involved are all too aware of that. --MJ( ☎ 22:37, 9 October 2005 (UTC).
 * I'm just entertained that "she" thinks she can diagnose people from a Wikipedia page history. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 22:40, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm the chair of the medcom, and I'm only involved because I called the mediation frivolous, etc. I doubt the case will be accepted, and if it is it'll just be to make Merkey's ban formal. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for helping with Esperanza elections!
Thanks for the wikiThanks :D R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 22:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

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Elton Welsby

Roger Elton Welsby (born 28 May 1951) is an English television sports presenter.

Welsby is a fan of Everton Football Club, and St Helens R.F.C.

Broadcasting career
Welsby began his broadcasting career on Liverpool radio station Radio City as a sports reporter and commentator. In January 1978 he joined Granada Television, working on its football programme The Kick Off Match and presented its 1980s successors Match Night (if shown on a Saturday) and Match Time (if broadcast on a Sunday) until their demise in 1983. Welsby was primarily a presenter, but did occasionally deputise as commentator. During that time he also presented RL Action taking over from Bob Hall and later Richard Madeley. He was also involved with World of Sport as a reporter for On The Ball and later as a relief presenter, becoming part of the ITV team in the major international football tournaments for the 1982 World Cup and the 1986 World Cup he was a reporter and was ITV's co-presenter based in Italy in the 1990 World Cup, a reporter/interviewer in the 1988 European Championship he is remembered for the interview with the then UK Sports Minister Colin Moynihan before the England v Ireland match, lead presenter in the 1992 European Championship and was the newsreader and occasional relief presenter on Midweek Sports Special.

When Granada revived Kick Off in 1989 after a six-year absence, Welsby returned as presenter despite by then presenting networked shows. He was one of the anchors of the 1988 Seoul Olympics, the last Olympic Games to be covered by the network, and also presented the Saturday afternoon Results Service from October 1985 until May 1992, and was the sole anchor throughout its seven years on air.

Welsby occasionally presented live matches for ITV in 1986, becoming the regular host in the 1987–88 season. At the start of the 1988–89 season, ITV began broadcasting exclusive live coverage of the Football League. It was the task of Greg Dyke to oversee the coverage and he entrusted Welsby as presenter of The Match, anchoring numerous dramatic matches over the next four years, including Arsenal's 2–0 win against Liverpool in the last game of the season which saw the Gunners snatch a last minute winner at Anfield.

The loss of top flight football to Sky Sports in 1992 hit ITV Sport hard, and Welsby's final work as ITV's lead football presenter was at the 1992 European Championship. After this, he ceased working for ITV Sport and returned to Granada full-time.

Welsby continued to present regional programming for Granada, including Granada Goals Extra, The Granada Match, the station's crown green bowls coverage, and the midweek sports programming until May 2000 when the station decided not to renew his contract. In an interview in 2015 Welsby was critical of Soccer Sunday, the last programme he presented, describing it as a "poor show with poor content and poor journalistic standards".

Welsby occasionally returned as a guest on the Granada Soccer Night programme, and in 2001 he went back to radio to present Elton Welsby's Soccer Saturday for North-West regional station Century FM – a role he held for three years.

Other work
Welsby was the final presenter of the British gameshow Busman's Holiday, following on from Julian Pettifer and Sarah Kennedy. He also presented the quiz show  Go For Goal in 1993. He is regularly involved in corporate and charity work.

Welsby's most recent TV work was as a presenter of Crown Green Bowls for Sky Sports during the mid-2000s.

Welsby is active on Twitter, where his handle is @WelsbyElton and he occasionally appears as a guest on football and rugby league YouTube fanzine channels. His son, Chris Welsby, is a producer of Premier League football coverage on beIn Sports, presented by Richard Keys and Andy Gray.

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Naomi Long Madgett

Naomi Long Madgett (July 5, 1923 – November 5, 2020) was an American poet and publisher. Originally a teacher, she later found fame with her award-winning poems and was also the founder and senior editor of Lotus Press, established in 1972, a publisher of poetry books by black poets. Known as "the godmother of African-American poetry", she was the Detroit poet laureate since 2001.

Life and work
Madgett was born as Naomi Cornelia Long in Norfolk, Virginia, in July 1923. She was the only daughter and the youngest of the three children of Baptist minister Rev. Dr. Clarence Marcellus Long and Maude Selena Long (née Hilton). Naomi was 18 months old when the family moved to East Orange, New Jersey, where her father was pastor of Calvary Baptist Church. She began writing at an early age, having her first published poem published in the Orange Daily Courier when she was 13 years old. While living in New Jersey, she went to an integrated school, where she faced racism as an African American. She graduated from Ashland Grammar School and began attending East Orange High School, until in 1937 her family moved to St. Louis, where for the following four years her father served as pastor of Central Baptist Church. Madgett attended and graduated with honors from Sumner High School, where she was encouraged to write and she read widely, from Aesop's Fables and Robert T. Kerlin's anthology Negro Poets and Their Poems to Romantic and Victorian English poets such as John Keats, William Wordsworth, and Alfred Tennyson.

At the age of 17 she published her first small collection of poetry, Songs to a Phantom Nightingale (1941), a few days after graduating from high school.

She went on to Virginia State College (now Virginia State University), and graduated in 1945 with a bachelor of arts degree. She began studies at New York University in 1946, but that year moved to Detroit, Michigan, after marrying Julian Fields Witherspoon, whom she had first met at Sumner High School.

Madgett worked for a while as a staff writer at the Michigan Chronicle, where she published many poems under the name Naomi L. Witherspoon. She gave birth to a daughter, Jill Annette Witherspoon, in 1947, although the marriage was short-lived, ending in divorce in 1948.

In 1949 Madgett's poem "Refugee" appeared in The Poetry of the Negro, an anthology edited by Arna Bontemps with Langston Hughes, who was an early mentor of Madgett's, after at the age of 15 she had met him at a poetry reading of his in St Louis.

In 1955, she graduated from Wayne State University with a M.Ed. Her poem "Midway", from her 1956 collection One and the Many, attracted wide attention as it portrayed black people's struggles, and victories, in a time when racism was prevalent in the United States. Her work appeared in a variety of publications, including Freedomways, Phylon, The Blue River Poetry Magazine, Negro History Bulletin, Negro Digest, as well as in other anthologies such as Hughes's 1964 New Negro Poets: U.S.A.

Becoming a teacher, Madgett taught the first black literary course in the Detroit public school system for 12 years, most of them spent at Northwestern High School. Her third poetry collection, Star by Star, was published in 1965, also gaining acclaim. In 1968, she taught creative writing and black literature at Eastern Michigan University, where she was appointed associate professor of English. While at Eastern she earned her Ph.D. from The International Institute for Advanced Studies. Promoted to full professor, she retired in 1984 as Professor of English Emeritus at the age of 60. In 1972, after she had difficulty finding a publisher for her fourth book, she had published it herself from a company she set up, Lotus Press, realizing that there was a need for presses that promoted African-American writers. The imprint published Black writers such as Herbert Woodward Martin, Dolores Kendrick, James A. Emanuel, Gayl Jones, Haki Madhubuti, May Miller, Toi Derricotte, and Dudley Randall, and for many years was run by Madgett from her basement mostly single-handedly – though in the early years she invented an editorial assistant named Connie Withers "to give the imprint corporate heft." Madgett would continue to serve as publisher/editor of the company until 2015 when Lotus Press merged with Dudley Randall's Broadside Press to become Broadside Lotus Press.

Some of Madgett's poems, including "Midway", have been set to music as songs and publicly performed. As well as publishing collections of her own poetry, Madgett was editor of the anthology Adam of Ife: Black Women in Praise of Black Men (Lotus Press, 1992). She also wrote a textbook on creative writing

In 1993 the national Naomi Long Madgett Poetry Award was established, an annual award sponsored by Broadside Lotus Press to recognize and publish an outstanding manuscript by an African-American poet.

The many honors Madgett received included 1993's American Book Award and the George Kent Award in 1995. In 2001 she was appointed poet laureate of Detroit by Mayor Dennis Archer.

Her autobiography, Pilgrim Journey, was published in 2006, an in 2011 Madgett was the subject of a documentary film by David B. Schock called StarbyStar: Naomi Long Madgett, Poet & Publisher.

In 2012, Kresge Arts in Detroit presented her with the 2012 Kresge Eminent Artist Award, a $50,000 prize to recognize Madgett's "decades of commitment to originating, illuminating, and preserving poetry by African-Americans, and promoting the study and appreciation of African-American literature in schools and universities".

Madgett's last poetry collection, You Are My Joy and Pain: Love Poems, was published in fall 2020. She died on November 5, 2020, at her home in West Bloomfield, Michigan, aged 97.

Awards

 * Octavia and Other Poems (1988) was national co-winner of the College Language Association Creative Achievement Award.
 * Long Poetry Foundation offered its first annual Naomi Long Madgett Poetry Award for excellence in a manuscript by an African-American poet.

Selected bibliography

 * Songs to a Phantom Nightingale, Fortuny's Publishers, 1941 (30 pages).
 * One and the Many: Poems, Exposition Press, 1956 (including "Midway").
 * Pink Ladies in the Afternoon, Lotus Press, 1972 (reprinted 1990).
 * You Are My Joy and Pain: Love Poems, Wayne State University Press, 2020.
 * You Are My Joy and Pain: Love Poems, Wayne State University Press, 2020.
 * You Are My Joy and Pain: Love Poems, Wayne State University Press, 2020.
 * You Are My Joy and Pain: Love Poems, Wayne State University Press, 2020.
 * You Are My Joy and Pain: Love Poems, Wayne State University Press, 2020.
 * You Are My Joy and Pain: Love Poems, Wayne State University Press, 2020.
 * You Are My Joy and Pain: Love Poems, Wayne State University Press, 2020.
 * You Are My Joy and Pain: Love Poems, Wayne State University Press, 2020.

As editor

 * Adam of Ife: Black Women in Praise of Black Men, Lotus Press, 1992.

Selected anthology contributions

 * Arna Bontemps and Langston Hughes, eds (1949), "Refugee", The Poetry of the Negro: 1746–1949.
 * Langston Hughes, New Negro Poets: U.S.A. (1964)
 * Margaret Busby, ed. (1992). "New Day" and "Black Woman", Daughters of Africa: An International Anthology of Words and Writings by Women of African Descent, Jonathan Cape. ISBN 0-224-03592-4.

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Markvartovice

Markvartovice (Markersdorf) is a municipality and village in Opava District in the Moravian-Silesian Region of the Czech Republic. It has about 2,200 inhabitants. It is part of the historic Hlučín Region.

Geography
Markvartovice is located about 8 km north of Ostrava. It lies in the Opava Hilly Land. The highest point is at 281 m above sea level. The stream Ludgeřovický potok flows through the municipality.

History
The first written mention of Markvartovice is from 1377, when it was owned by Rosat, a forester of the Opava princes. Until 1551, the village was a seat of the Bzenec knights. Then the village often changed owners until 1673, when it became the property of the Jesuits from Opava. Their reckless reign led to an uprising of the inhabintants in 1734. From 1742 to 1918, after Maria Theresa had been defeated, the village belonged to Prussia. In 1920, it became part of the newly established Czechoslovakia.

Transport
The I/56 road (heading from Ostrava to Hlučín and Opava) briefly crosses the southern part of the municipal territory.

Sights
The most significant monument in Markvartovice is the Chapel of the Holy Trinity. It is an early Baroque building from the second half of the 17th century.

Notable people

 * Jaromír Bohačík (born 1992), basketball player; raised here and lives here

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Mu Arietis

Mu Arietis, Latinized from μ Arietis, is the Bayer designation for a star system in the northern constellation of Aries. It is approximately 340 ly distant from Earth, give or take a 30 light-year margin of error, and has a combined apparent visual magnitude of 5.74. According to the Bortle Dark-Sky Scale, this means it is faintly visible to the naked eye from dark suburban skies.

At the heart of this system is a close orbiting pair consisting of a magnitude 6.38 A-type main sequence star with a stellar classification of A0 Vp and a magnitude 8.38 F-type main sequence companion with a classification of F2 V. These two components have an angular separation of 0.04 arcseconds. A third component, consisting of a magnitude 6.72 star with a classification of A1 V, is orbiting the inner pair with a period of 8.845 years and an eccentricity of 0.34. A smaller fourth component, at an angular separation of 19.1 arcseconds, has a magnitude of 12.2.

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Windom, Minneapolis

The Windom neighborhood is located in the Southwest community of Minneapolis. Its borders are Diamond Lake Road and West 54th Street to the north, Interstate 35W to the east, West 62nd Street (Highway 62) to the south, and Lyndale Avenue South and Highway 121 to the west. Windom is a part of Ward 11, currently represented by Minneapolis City Council member Emily Koski.

Businesses

 * Businesses in Windom Neighborhood, Minneapolis'

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Eliot Porter

Eliot Furness Porter (December 6, 1901 – November 2, 1990) was an American photographer best known for his color photographs of nature.

Early life and education
Porter credited his father, James Porter, with instilling in him a love for nature as well as a commitment to scientific rigor. An amateur photographer since childhood, Eliot Porter found early inspiration photographing the birds on Maine's Great Spruce Head Island owned by his family. Porter earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in chemical engineering from Harvard College and a Doctor of Medicine from Harvard Medical School, and remained at Harvard after graduation as a medical researcher. One of Eliot Porter's five siblings was the painter and art critic Fairfield Porter.

Career
Fairfield Porter introduced his older brother to photographer and gallerist Alfred Stieglitz in about 1930. Stieglitz, after seeing Porter's work, encouraged Porter to work harder. Finally, in 1938, Stieglitz presented Porter's work, taken with a Linhof view camera, in his New York City gallery, An American Place. The exhibit's success prompted Porter to pursue photography full-time.

Porter became interested in colour photography after a publisher rejected a proposal for a book on birds because black and white images wouldn't clearly differentiate the species. Porter began working with a new color film, Kodachrome, introduced in 1935, but it presented considerable technical challenges, especially for capturing fast-moving birds. Drawing on his chemical engineering and research background Porter experimented extensively until he was able to produce satisfactory images. His bird photographs were exhibited in 1943, the first ever exhibition of color photographs at the Museum of Modern Art, New York. His book American Birds: 10 Photographs in Color was published in 1953. His solo exhibition at Limelight Gallery, NYC., March 21-April 17 1955 was effectively a retrospective of this work.

For twenty years, Porter pursued a project to publish nature photographs combined with quotes from works by Henry David Thoreau. Not until an associate introduced him to the executive director of the Sierra Club did Porter find a willing publisher. His 1962 book, In Wildness Is the Preservation of the World featured Porter's color nature studies of the New England woods. The book enjoyed considerable success despite its high price, pioneered the genre of the nature photography coffee-table book, and lead to several other titles by Porter in a similar format published by the Sierra Club and others. It increased Porter's reputation greatly, and he served as a director of the Sierra Club from 1965 to 1971. He was elected a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 1971. In 1979 the work of Eliot Porter was exhibited in Intimate Landscapes, the first one-person show of color photography at The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York. This exhibition earned Porter praise as the individual who brought credibility to color photography as a medium of fine art. The image selection defined what is now meant by the term “intimate landscape”: the close-range, quiet compositions of natural elements with muted colors and dense textures, meditative and dense with layered meanings, which were the hallmark of Porter's work at the exclusion of more expansive and spectacular landscapes.

Porter traveled extensively to photograph ecologically important and culturally significant places. He published books of photographs from Glen Canyon in Utah, Maine, Baja California, Galápagos Islands, Antarctica, East Africa, and Iceland. His cultural studies included Mexico, Egypt, China, Czechoslovakia, and ancient Greek sites. His book on Glen Canyon, The Place No One Knew, memorialized the canyon's appearance before its inundation by the Lake Powell reservoir.

James Gleick’s book Chaos: Making a New Science (1987) caused Porter to reexamine his work in the context of chaos theory. They collaborated on a project published in 1990 as Nature's Chaos, which combined his photographs with a new essay by Gleick. Porter died in Santa Fe, New Mexico in 1990 and bequeathed his personal archive to the Amon Carter Museum of American Art in Fort Worth, Texas.

Personal life
Eliot Porter's brother, Fairfield Porter, was a realist painter and art critic. His brother-in-law, Michael W. Straus, was a commissioner of the United States Bureau of Reclamation. Eliot was married to Marian Brown from 1927 until their divorce in 1934. He married Aline Kilham in 1936 and the two moved to Santa Fe, New Mexico together, living in Tesuque, New Mexico from 1946.

Books

 * In Wildness Is the Preservation of the World, 1962.
 * The Place No One Knew, Glen Canyon on the Colorado, 1963.
 * Summer Island: Penobscot country, 1966.
 * Antarctica, 1978.
 * Intimate Landscapes, 1979.
 * Southwest, 1985.
 * Eliot Porter, 1987.
 * Birds of North America A Personal Selection", 1972
 * Nature’s Chaos, 1990.

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Koboko District

Koboko District is a district in the Northern Region of Uganda. The town of Koboko is the site of the district headquarters.

Location
Koboko District is bordered by South Sudan to the north, Yumbe District to the east, Maracha District to the south, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) to the west. The district headquarters are located approximately 55 km, by road, north of Arua, the largest town in the sub-region. This is approximately 480 km, by road, north-west of Kampala, the capital and largest city of Uganda.

Overview
Koboko District consists of two counties namely, Koboko North and Koboko South. The Koboko North County consists of the Aringa Speaking Community Inclined to Lugbara and the South Inclined to the Pure Kakwa Speaking.

Population
The 1991 national census estimated the district population at 62,300. The 2002 national census estimated the population at 129,100, of whom 65,400 (50.6 percent) were female and 63,800 (49.4 percent) were male. The annual population growth rate, between 2002 and 2012, was calculated at 6.4 percent. In 2012, the population was approximately 236,900.

Landmarks
The district is the location of a tripoint, where the international borders of the DRC, South Sudan, and Uganda intersect.

Languages used in koboko district

 * 1) English.
 * 2) Swahili.
 * 3) Arabic,
 * 4) French.
 * 5) Kakwa.
 * 6) Lugbara.
 * 7) Kiswahili.
 * 8) Lingala.
 * 9) Bantu.
 * 10) Luganda.
 * 11) Lou, and many more others.

Radio station in koboko district.
Spirit FM koboko

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St. Peter Catholic Secondary School

St. Peter Catholic Secondary School, abbreviated SPSS, is an urban high school located in Peterborough, Ontario, Canada. The school was originally opened in 1914, before moving to its current location in the mid-1990s. The school is administered by the Peterborough Victoria Northumberland and Clarington Catholic District School Board. The school is built for 1400 students from Grade 9 to 12. The school is within the Diocese of Peterborough.

Notable alumni

 * Kathryn Durst, artist and illustrator

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User:Martyman/My Images/ACT Maps

ACT Locality Maps
I have created a map of the ACT in Adobe Illustrator and am gradually producing locality maps for places and suburbs. Please let me know if you have an article that could benifit from an ACT map.

There is a new style map to suit the new Canberra Suburb Infobox at User:Martyman/My Images/Suburb Infobox Maps.

For my other non-ACT maps see (User:Martyman/My Images/Maps)

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User talk:Anja

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User:Steffen Kaufmann

I come from and mainly live in Dresden, Germany.

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Typical contributions of mine will be mainly located in articles like Rathen, Bastei, Bad Gottleuba-Berggiesshuebel, Brühl's Terrace or Saxon Switzerland.

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Cerro Rico

Cerro Rico (Spanish for "Rich Mountain"), Cerro Potosí ("Potosí Mountain") or Sumaq Urqu (Quechua sumaq "beautiful, good, pleasant", urqu "mountain", "beautiful (good or pleasant) mountain"), is a mountain in the Andes near the Bolivian city of Potosí. Cerro Rico, which is popularly conceived of as being "made of" silver ore, is famous for providing vast quantities of silver for the Spanish Empire, most of which was shipped to metropolitan Spain. It is estimated that eighty-five percent of the silver produced in the central Andes during this time came from Cerro Rico.

As a result of mining operations in the mountain, the city of Potosí became one of the largest cities in the New World. It is said that revolutionary hero Simon Bolívar once waved a flag from the top of this monumental mountain in a historic moment that symbolized the founding of a new nation. Just a year later, congress decided to change the colors to yellow-red-green and include a coat of arms featuring the iconic condor, alpaca and Cerro Rico mine.

History
The Cerro Rico de Potosí was the richest source of silver in the history of mankind. The extraction of mineral ores in Cerro Rico de Potosí began in 1545 by the Spanish Empire. Between the 16th and 18th century, 80% of the world's silver supply came out of this mine.

After centuries of extractive mining methods that severely damaged the local ecology the mountain continues to be mined for silver to this day. Due to poor worker conditions, such as a lack of protective equipment against the constant inhalation of dust, many of the miners contract silicosis. They have a life expectancy of around 40 years. The mountain is still a significant contributor to the city's economy, employing some 15,000 miners.

As a result of centuries long mining, in 2011 a sinkhole in the top appeared and had to be filled with ultra-light cement. The summit also continues to sink a few centimetres every year. In 2014, UNESCO added Cerro Rico and Potosí to its list of endangered sites, owing to "uncontrolled mining operations" that risk "degrading the site".

Labor and methods of extraction at Cerro Rico
Originally, the Spanish Empire used a forced labor system called "Repartimiento de Indios" (also known as "Repartimiento") to extract silver from Cerro Rico, though in region of the former Inca Empire, it was known as mita. During the first decades of extraction, the mines in Potosí had vast deposits of pure silver and silver chloride deposits, which made the extraction of silver relatively easy. Native American labor in the Andean regions was eventually preferred by the Spanish Crown, as opposed to African slave labor, due to high mortality and low productivity rates.

By 1565, Cerro Rico had run out of high-grade silver ores. Extraction began anew after the introduction of a silver extraction method known as patio process, using mercury to form silver amalgams and extract silver from low-grade ores.

Repartimiento was also a system of cyclical labor, so after their required time was done, many Amerindians would continue working at the mines as free wage laborers or mingas, despite the harsh conditions.

Given the use of mercury and the high amount of silver extracted from the mines, mercury poisoning among the Amerindian laborers was common, which caused many miners to die. Other harsh conditions at both the mines and refining patios also caused the deaths of miners during the Spanish rule, and it is believed that around eight million miners died in total. However, other sources estimate that it was "hundreds of thousands," and that eight million deaths were actually the total number of deaths in the Viceroyalty of Peru, not just the mines in Potosí.

It is known as the "mountain that eats men" because of the large number of workers who died in the mines. The work of historians such as Peter Bakewell, Noble David Cook, Enrique Tandeter and Raquel Gil Montero portray a more accurate description of the human-labor issue (free and non-free workers) with completely different estimates.

Bolivian Mining Cooperative
Bolivia's cooperative mining sector, whose center is in Potosí, has been given many privileges including favorable tax treatment to miners and exemption from labor and environmental regulations for cooperatives since the election of socialist president Evo Morales in 2006. After centuries of brutal Spanish extraction and forced labor, decades of foreign control and private investment in the late 20th century, and the failure of the state-run mining company COMIBOL led to the displacement of 25,000 miners following plummeting mineral prices in the 1990s, "informal, self-managed associations" began selling "unrefined product to private operators".

FENCOMIN (National Federation of Mining Cooperatives in Bolivia) was a vital player in insuring the successful popular election of Evo Morales and also functioned as one of the leaders in drafting Bolivia's new constitution establishing a plural mining economy (state, private, and cooperative). However, over the last ten years much conflict has arisen between cooperative miners and state miners. In 2006, state miners and cooperatives clashed at Huanuni leaving 16 dead leading to the firing of Morales' first Mining Minister, a member of FENCOMIN. Most recently in 2016, Bolivia's Deputy Interior Minister Rodolfo Illanes was tortured and killed, allegedly by Bolivian cooperative miners. This outburst of violence has led to clashes between cooperative miners and the police leaving five miners dead and severing a decade of strong ties between cooperative mining and the Morales government.

Reports in 2019 indicate that the current output of the mines was predominantly tin and zinc by then and only small amounts of silver. One report estimates that a full 88% of the miners in Bolivia, roughly 8,000 to 10,000 (depending on the source making the estimate), including children, were working for the cooperatives. A former miner discussed the great risks of working at Cerro Rico with a reporter, but said that those working there had few other alternatives for earning a living. "You have to be crazy to work in the mines, with the conditions. But there are no other alternatives."

Mine
Cerro Rico de Potosí was accidentally discovered in 1545 by Diego de Huallpa, a Quechua silver miner for the Spanish, while he was searching the mountain for an Inca shrine or traditional burial offering. The red mountain, now known as Cerro Rico, sits between the Porco and Sucre mines, which had previously been discovered, being at lower altitudes and therefore easier to mine.

Once Cerro Rico was found to carry predominantly silver ores, mining focus shifted to the harvesting of the more lucrative ore over ores like tin, zinc, and lead found in Porco and Sucre. Now one of the largest silver mines in Bolivia, and in the world, the Cerro Rico de Potosí mine to date has yielded an estimated 60,000 tons of silver, and deposits are thought to still contain estimated reserves of 1.76 billion ounces (50,000 tons) of silver and 540 million tons of ore grading 0.17% tin. The mine is located in the south of the country in Potosí Department.

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Ostara (magazine)

Ostara or Ostara, Briefbücherei der Blonden und Mannesrechtler (Ostara, Newsletter of the Blonde and Masculists) was a German nationalist magazine founded in 1905 by the Arisophist occultist Lanz von Liebenfels in Vienna, Austria, and in which he published anti-semitic and Völkisch theories.

Lanz derived the name of the publication from the reconstructed Old High German goddess name *Ôstarâ. Lanz claimed that the Ostrogoths and the nation of Austria (German: Österreich) were matronymically named after this goddess. In his study of Lanz von Liebenfels, the Austrian psychologist Wilfried Daim states that "most likely this is even greater nonsense."

According to von Liebenfels, the magazine had a peak circulation of 100,000 and appeared in three series; the first series included anywhere from 89 to 100 issues between 1905 and 1917, the second series had only one issue, and the third series included 20 issues published c. 1930–1931.

Adolf Hitler was reportedly one of the publication's readers in his late teens, and there is speculation that it served as a catalyst for his antisemitism. After Hitler's rise to prominence in the 1920s, Lanz tried to be recognized as one of his ideological precursors. In the preface of issue one in the 3rd series of Ostara, c. 1927, he wrote, "One shall remember that the swastika- and fascist movements are basically offspring of Ostara."

Hitler, however, refused to acknowledge any debt to Lanz and his paper. After Austria was annexed by Nazi Germany in 1938, Lanz hoped for Hitler's patronage, but Hitler banned him from publishing his writings, and most notably copies of Ostara were removed from circulation. After the war, Lanz accused Hitler of having not only stolen but corrupted his idea, and also of being of "inferior racial stock".

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User talk:LittleEmmy

LittleEmmy is a Wikipedia user who joined on the 10th of October 2005. Her many hobbies include horseback riding, medical stub expansion, and internet messageboard frequenting. Many believe she has "no life", but LittleEmmy is often witnessed walking with friends in the hallways and making conversation at lunch.

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Šilheřovice

Šilheřovice (Schillersdorf, Szylerzowice) is a municipality and village in Opava District in the Moravian-Silesian Region of the Czech Republic. It has about 1,600 inhabitants. It is part of the historic Hlučín Region.

Geography
Šilheřovice is located about 8 km north of Ostrava, on the border with Poland. The western part of the municipality lies in the Opava Hilly Land and the eastern part lies in the Ostrava Basin. The highest point is at 286 m above sea level. The stream Šilheřovický potok flows through the municipality. The Oder River briefly flows along the eastern municipal border.

History
The first written mention of Šilheřovice is from 1377 deed, when it was part of the Silesian Duchy of Opava in the Lands of the Bohemian Crown. With the Hlučín Region it was annexed by Prussia after the First Silesian War in 1742.

In 1787 the Prussian noble Friedrich von Eichendorff purchased the estates and had a Neoclassical castle built, where his young nephew Joseph von Eichendorff spent several vacations. In 1846 Šilheřovice Castle was acquired by Salomon Mayer von Rothschild, progenitor of the Rothschild banking family of Austria, while in 1920 the Hlučín Region was adjudicated to Czechoslovakia according to the terms of the Treaty of Versailles.

Transport
There are no railways or major roads passing through the municipality.

Sport
There is a golf course in the castle park.

Sights
The most notable monument is Šilheřovice Castle, built in 1787–1815. It is surrounded by a large English-style park. Today the castle is privately owned and is partially accessible during the social events.

The Church of the Assumption of the Virgin Mary was built in the Baroque style in 1713.

Notable people

 * Georg Gawliczek (1919–1999), German football player and coach

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Talk:United States v. Seeger

Formerly Disputed
I strongly doubt that the Supreme Court rejected theism. On the face of it they rejected only the notion that theism was the only basis for conscientious objection. --Trovatore 01:35, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Would someone please fix this? I don't know enough law to do it myself. I tried taking a look at the decision but some of the language seemed to suggest that the court thought the objectors' reasons were theistic, even if not in the sense of any existing religious organization. Maybe I was just reading it wrong. Anyway the court clearly did not reject theism; I hope someone can give a clear account of just what it did do. --Trovatore 20:23, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Someone got to it one minute before I saved this last edit. Thanks :-) --Trovatore 20:41, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

the defendant in the case is wrong
The defendant in the case is Daniel Seeger, a student, not Pete Seeger the folk singer. THEMlCK 11:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Present Laughter

Old comment
"Esseldine not Essendine"?! Where did you get *that* idea from? Please refrain from making edits based on nothing more than hazy recollection! 81.110.86.44 01:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Double bill and triple bill
Am I in error in wondering if "double bill" leads readers to imagine the two plays were done on the same night rather than on alternate ones? Tim riley (talk) 20:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

 * Yes, that's what I thought you meant. If they alternated nights, we should say so.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Tim riley (talk) 16:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Interesting OR
I have deleted this recent addition by an IP:
 * Beneath the light comedy is a more serious depiction of the adverse effects of fame. Those around Garry are dependent upon his fame while at he same time he needs them to maintain his celebrity. His surname Essendine is an anagram of ‘neediness’.

It plainly can't remain in the article, being uncited original research, but I think it is worth a mention here. The anagram is new to me, and I don't think the authors of any of the twenty or so books about Coward on my shelves have noticed it. I don't imagine we have any reason to suppose Coward knew of it, but it nonetheless bears mentioning on this talk page, I think, as an interesting curiosity.  Tim riley  talk   20:50, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

 * I did a google search and got many hits, including this.
 * Here is something about the "effects of fame" idea. This too. Also this. And this.  And this.  Also this. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:10, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
 * By all means add something on those lines, I'd say, as you have good citations. The anagram, though, must probably remain mentioned here rather than on the article page. I suppose I must add a sentence in the Autobiographical section that in the current Old Vic production Joanna is turned into Joe, and is played by a man. God save us from clever clever producers who think they know better than the author.   Tim riley  talk   21:20, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

The gimmicks of a short-running production?
Tim riley’s note read: “Thank you for your well meant addition, but please consider why the gimmicks of a single short-running production should be recorded in an article about the play, and discuss on the article talk page if you wish to persist.”

This refers to a conversation about whether to record the 2019 Old Vic's production editing of the script and gender-swapping. There's a lot to unpick in Tim's comment.

Some arguments in favour of adding the information:

1. Gender-swapping is not necessarily a 'gimmick' - Various kinds of casting fluidity (for want of a better term) are happening enough in theatre to merit inclusion. The 2019 revival of Sondheim's Company springs to mind. Hamilton too (the biggest theatre production on the planet). Whole plays are being written to be played by actors of whichever gender. To call these developments ‘gimmicks’ is not only a value judgement, but ignores theatre history.

Furthermore, the page already includes Peter Hall's assertion that Coward 'must have wanted...those love affairs [to be] about homosexuals'. The Old Vic production carries that thinking forward.

2. A ‘short-lived’ production can still be significant - There's an implication in Tim's comment that 'short-lived' means unworthy of note. If that is the case, where is the bar set? (a three-month run? Six months? A year? An international transfer?) This production was directed by one of the most influential theatre directors in the world (Matthew Warchus), featured a global star (Andrew Scott) and was broadcast internationally under the NT's Live programme as a showcase of British theatre. That is significant.

 * An ephemeral gimmick like this is not sufficiently notable for mention, in my view. I should be glad to know what other editors think.  Tim riley  talk   14:27, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

 * I agree with User:Tim riley. The gender-swapping in that production was not WP:NOTEWORTHY. The fact that this is happening with some frequency on the modern stage makes it of *less* importance to this article, not more.  I agree that the Old Vic's production is carrying Hall's thinking forward, but the Old Vic production is just one among many productions of this show, and adding this detail would over-weight this production in the article.  See WP:BALASP.  It may be that you can mention it in a more general article, say History of cross-dressing  or breeches role or some article that deals with the modern history of theatre, but it is not of importance to the subject of Present Laughter.  Also, I agree with riley that a short-lived production is generally less important than a long-running production.  The bar for noteworthiness is set to different levels depending on how frequently the show is produced and at what level.  If it is a play that is revived frequently in the West End and on Broadway for long runs, then short runs will be of less noteworthiness.  If the show has had few revivals, then a short revival with a notable cast and director will be given more weight.  In addition, revivals are nearly by definition less important, in an encyclopedia article about a play, than the original production. Unless most of the major reviewers thought that the gender-swapping was incredibly innovative and important, it just doesn't merit a mention in this article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:17, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that's right. If rewriting Coward's text becomes a regular event this 2019 production can be cited as the thin end of the wedge, but if we are spared further such distortions there is no call to mention this one. Perhaps worth revisiting in a few years' time.  Tim riley  talk   17:08, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, especially if subsequent revivals and/or reviewers state that revivals are making certain changes because Warchus made them in this production, then it could be mentioned that this production was the origin of important changes that later bacame standard in revivals of the play. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:37, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

List of Garry portrayers in the Lead section
I'm very puzzled as to why some editors here seem to believe some revivals are worth mentioning in the intro, but others are not (all professional productions starring notable actors, incidentally). For instance, the Andrew Scott revival, despite being filmed and shown as "event cinema" in cinemas across the UK, is apparently not considered notable enough to be mentioned. I find this very odd. I'm all for non-notable local productions not being listed (including the one in which I played Garry, naturally!), but this seems to be nonsensical. It seems to me like certain editors have decided on the "definitive" list and won't brook any changes to it. What exactly makes a revival notable enough to be included? -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

 * My own rule of thumb is that reviewers of later productions refer back to them as reference points or even benchmarks. Others may think differently.  Tim riley  talk   14:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

 * Clearly, some revivals are more important than others, based on how long they ran, size of the theatre, how starry the cast was, what the critics said, how often they are mentioned in reviews of later productions, etc. The Lead should contain an "overview" of the article (see WP:LEAD); that is, it should highlight the most important things stated in more detail later in the article.  As for Scott, I think you make some good points about the importance of his production.  Can you compare it with the productions in which the other Garrys starred in terms of the criteria I mentioned in my first sentence?  -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:12, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Given Scott has just won the Olivier Award for his performance, I think excluding him from the lead really would now be ridiculous! -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

 * I'd have no objections to that.  Tim riley  talk   16:22, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Fine with me, too, but please be more careful with your edits. I had to fix your edit to remove the excess "and". -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:35, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sure if you reread what you just wrote you'll realise it was just a little patronising. Everyone makes mistakes, even experienced editors like you and me. Thanks for fixing it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:55, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

 * I'm sure if you reread what you wrote, you will see how rude you were. "I find this very odd.... this seems nonsensical... certain editors have decided... and won't brook...."  Instead of attacking other editors, just explain what your reasons are for requesting a change, and then a discussion can ensue without hyperbole and exclamation marks like the above "ridiculous!"  We are spending our valuable time to write a high quality encyclopedia and don't need poorly reasoned attacks on our judgement as odd or nonsensical or the other accusations you made.  It is hard enough to keep off the vandals without having to put up with attacks made for no good reason. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:35, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Since when does an editor need to discuss a change on the talkpage? If we did that for every change we'd never get anything done. Your statement that you "don't need poorly reasoned attacks on our judgement" suggests that you think you somehow have a greater right to make such judgements than other editors. I'm sure that with you experience you know this is not the case. I'm sure that with my experience you know that I know what I'm doing without being patronised. This is a pointless discussion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:31, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Apparently you have forgotten what actually happened here. You Boldly added Scott to the Lead section.  I disagreed with you and Reverted, per WP:BRD, suggesting that if you wished, you could open a Discussion on the Talk page.  You did so, and then both Tim riley and I explained why we thought that, at that point, Scott did not belong in the Lead.  I never said that all edits need to be discussed, only disputed ones.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:44, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Prizes
An editor has added a section called ‘Awards and nominations’. I think this is wholly inappropriate and have deleted it. The awards were not for the play, but for the production or the participants, and singling out just one production of the numerous revivals is WP:UNDUE. There have been rather a few award-winning productions of King Lear and Romeo and Juliet, but nobody in his right mind would add a section on ‘Awards and nominations’. There is no more excuse for puffing this one production than there is for the Shakespeare plays. Happy to discuss if any other interested editors have a view.  Tim riley  talk   08:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

 * I agree that the Awards section is detrimental to this article, giving undue emphasis to the awards for a single revival of the play. We already state in the text that Scott won an Olivier for his role, which gives the key encyclopedic information in context.  Adding the very prominent section on awards gives a misleading impression of what is important about this play, its original production and its many revivals. -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

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Tau1 Arietis

Tau1 Arietis, Latinized from τ1 Arietis, is the Bayer designation for a triple star system in the northern constellation of Aries. Based upon an annual parallax shift of $5$, it is approximately 162 pc distant from Earth. The combined apparent visual magnitude is 5.27, making it faintly visible to the naked eye.

The Tau1 Arietis system contains three stars. The inner pair form an eclipsing binary system, with the brightness of the pair decreasing by 0.06 in magnitude during an eclipse of the primary. Its period is 2.20356 days. The third component is located at an angular separation of 0.810 arcseconds and has a magnitude of 8.17. The primary component is a subgiant star with a stellar classification of B5 IV. It has five times the mass of the Sun with about four times the Sun's radius.

This system is a member of the Cas-Tau OB association of stars that share a common motion through space.

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Tau2 Arietis

Tau2 Arietis, Latinized from τ2 Arietis, is the Bayer designation for a binary star in the northern constellation on Aries. The combined apparent visual magnitude of this system is +5.09, which is bright enough to be seen with the naked eye. With an annual parallax shift of 10.27 mas, it is located at a distance of approximately 320 ly from Earth, give or take a 20 light-year margin of error. At this distance the brightness of the star is diminished by 0.18 in magnitude because of extinction from interstellar gas and dust.

The primary component is an evolved giant star with a stellar classification of K3 III. It has expanded to 19 times the radius of the Sun, from which it is radiating 120 times the Sun's luminosity. This energy is being emitted into outer space from the outer atmosphere at an effective temperature of 4,406 K, giving it the cool orange glow of a K-type star. At an angular separation of 0.53 arcseconds is a magnitude 8.50 companion.

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Mandara

Mandara is an ethnic group and a language family in West Africa. It is also an alternative spelling of "mandarah", referring to a guest room in Middle Eastern buildings, especially in Egypt.

Additionally, it may refer to:

West Africa

 * Mandara languages is one of the group of Chadic languages
 * Mandara Kingdom of Cameroon
 * Mandara Mountains of Cameroon
 * Mandara people, also called the Mandrawa, of northern Cameroon and northeastern Nigeria

Other

 * El Mandara, a neighbourhood in Alexandria, Egypt
 * Bali Mandara Toll Road, an elevated toll road in Bali, Indonesia
 * Mandara or Mandala, Hindu and Buddhist religious object or symbol
 * Mandara people (Australia), an Australian Aboriginal tribe
 * Mandara tree, the legume Erythrina stricta
 * Mandaraba tree, the Indian Coral Tree (Erythrina variegata)
 * The crown flower plant Calotropis gigantea
 * Mount Mandara, a mythical mountain in the Hindu Puranas
 * Mandara (TV series), a German television series
 * Mandara language, an Austronesian language spoken on the Tabar Group of islands, New Ireland Province, Papua New Guinea
 * Mandara Spa, a global spa management company founded in Bali and now under the company Steiner Leisure Limited

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Nicholas Van Dyke

Nicholas Van Dyke may refer to:

 * Nicholas Van Dyke (politician, born 1738) (1738–1789), American lawyer and Governor of Delaware, father of the U.S. Senator
 * Nicholas Van Dyke (politician, born 1769) (1770–1826), American lawyer and U.S. Senator from Delaware, son of the Governor

title: Nicholas Van Dyke