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Markos Geneti

Markos Geneti (born May 30, 1984 in Gute, Oromia Region) is an Ethiopian long-distance runner who previously competed in track running, but now is a road specialist.

Biography
He won the 3000 metres title at the 2001 World Youth Championships in Athletics and stepped up a level to take the silver medal over 5000 metres at the 2002 World Junior Championships in Athletics the following year. Turning to senior competition, he was the runner-up in the 5000 m behind Hailu Mekonnen at the 2003 Afro-Asian Games and went on to claim the bronze medal in the 3000 m at the 2004 IAAF World Indoor Championships. He competed in that event twice at the IAAF World Athletics Final, in 2004 and 2005, but failed to win a medal on either occasion.

He made his global outdoor debut at the 2005 World Championships in Athletics, where he reached the semi-finals of the 1500 metres. Geneti ran a 3000 m best of 7:32.69 minutes at the Birmingham Indoor Grand Prix in February 2007. The following month he then made his debut at the 2007 IAAF World Cross Country Championships, where his 15th-place finish was the second best performance by an Ethiopian (after Tadese Tola).

In March 2011, he won the Los Angeles Marathon, breaking the record by almost two minutes in his first marathon attempt. His time of 2:06:35 was at that point the sixth fastest ever for a first-time marathoner. In his second race at the 2012 Dubai Marathon he ran a personal best time of 2:04:54 hours, but in one of the fastest races ever, he took third place behind Ayele Abshero and Dino Sefir. He did not return to competition until December, when he ran at the Honolulu Marathon and placed second to Wilson Kipsang.

Personal bests

 * 1500 metres - 3:33.83 (2005)
 * 3000 metres - 7:32.69 (2006, indoor)
 * 5000 metres - 13:00.25 (2005)
 * Marathon   -  2:04:54 (2012)

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Jersey Evening Post Jèrriais page (here called Jersey Norman-French).


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1968 Miss NHL Pageant
I note that this section was put in without citations of any kind, and there are zero hits on Google News for this other than for this article. I can find no reference to it in any contemporaneous NHL histories.

Aside from that, much (if not all) of the info is trivial, and the kind of promotional stunt most sports leagues do from one time to another. My final problem with it is that the section is longer than that listing the events of the entire 1969 regular season, which I'd venture to suggest would be considered of greater importance, and blows holes through WP:UNDUE. Should citations be provided, this can safely be trimmed to "The league held a beauty pageant for the first and only time this season, with a contestant from every franchise. Miss Minnesota North Stars Lynn Marie Stewart was named Miss NHL 1968, and was named the NHL "ambassador" for the 1968-69 season, making various appearances and helping to present the Stanley Cup."   Ravenswing   12:38, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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Fair use in Bad Guy (2001 film)
Though this image is subject to copyright, its use is covered by the U.S. fair use laws because:
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 * 2) It doesn't limit the copyright owner's rights to sell the film in any way, in fact, it may encourage sales.
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 * 4) The image is itself a subject of discussion in the article or used in the infobox thereof.
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I took at and release it to the public domain. It's just some plates...

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Talk:History of Guatemala

Resource recommendations: Can anyone recommend outside resources (books, journal articles, newspaper articles, films, etc.) that would provide contrasting POVs on the causes and consequences of La Violencia?

Central America civil war?
What was the Central American Civil War (1826–1829)? Does it have a wikipedia page under a different name or should it have a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg.collver (talk • contribs) 15:10, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

NPOV?
This article betrays a distinct bias from scholars depending on Richard Hansen's version of events in Mesoamerican history. It needs to be balanced by scholars with equally valid views who work elsewhere in Mesoamerica, such as the in the Southern Maya area. Several of the claims, as well, are not attributable to peer-reviewed publications and, hence, are insupportable at this point.

 * What specifically do you feel warrants that label? In what ways is it not neutral and in what do you suggest we do to correct that? --Clngre 18:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I can see why the tag was put on as it just describes things from a left wing POV but getting a more fully accurate picture would take a lot of research. Any takers? SqueakBox 19:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'd gladly take the time and improve it, if I knew how. I wrote that original segment and I can't see where in particular it's in need of balancing. That isn't to say that it doesn't need to be made more neutral, just that I can't see too well from the 'other side' or whatever. --Clngre 01:28, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I guess terms like American paranoia, Communist threat, even CIA orchestrated. The whole post operation CIA enquiry also seems like it has been written from an anti American POV, and it is this as the only POV expressed which I imagine is the problem, SqueakBox 01:47, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I see what you're saying and I'll set aside some time soon to augment it. I guess one of the problems is that there is no real proverbial 'other side' in this. I mean, there is no real pro-PBSUCCESS side, if that paragraph can be characterized as anti-PBSUCCESS. What sides do exist pretty much agree that it was a mess-up to one degree or another (most of the post-overthrow objectives were not met, the suspicion that the Soviet Union was playing a significant role, that underpinned the entire operation, proved to be unfounded, etc), but one 'side' just thinks that it was an unfortunate mess-up done with the best intentions. I get this characterization from the internally written CIA history of the coup, which discusses how it's something of a source of embarrassment within the agency and how a few still talk about it in a "we did what we were obligated to do under the circumstances" kind of way. In any case, I do think that view is important and one that deserves representation so I'll work it in as soon as I have the time. Thanks a lot for your help and advice--Clngre 03:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't see how anyone can label this as a left wing POV. Any real examination of the events lead to the same conclusions. US interests, rather the interests of the United Fruit Company directly caused US interest in Guatemala. Bitter Fruit is an excellent examination of US intervention in Guatemala. I don't understand how the CIA was in any was obligated to do anything in the country. There is no liberal or pro-PBSSUCCESS stance. It was an utter failure.

But there is a pro US's cold war justification camp, whuich I understand is quite strong, and so I don't agree with your assessment, above anon. I am not American so I don't feel able to write expressing that POV, but the lack of it seems obvious to me, and we should strive to include all valid POV's, SqueakBox 17:09, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Ok I just made some, maybe too modest, changes to the section that I nevertheless feel are sufficient. But, again, my view of this is limited, so if there is something that can still be improved please let me know. --Clngre 12:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Mythical Conquest
This article really displays a mythical school textbook view of the Conquest. It didn't begin and end in 1534. The last Maya state, in Petén, was conquered in -- wait for it -- 1697! It is also mythical that Bartolomé de las Casas pacified the Q'eqchi'. The Wikipedia article on the Q'eqchi' correctly states: Bartolomé de las Casas was given permission to try to convert the Qʼeqchiʼ people to Christianity, however, only a small portion was converted and the church lost all ability to govern the Qʼeqchiʼ."  Rexdwyer (talk) 19:32, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Merging content
has written a series of terribly formatted and horribly named articles, some of which appear to be original research as she draws conclusions about their importance. Please merge the following back into this article, or help to write them in an encyclopedic manner:

 * The Guatemalan Revolution: 1944-1954
 * Politcs in Post Revolutionary Guatemala
 * Guatemala: After the Revolution
 * CIA's Role: 'PBSUCCESS'
 * The Role of the United States and the CIA
 * Guatemalan Indians and Ethnic Conflict
 * Disunity in the Guatemalan Church
 * Agrarian reform
 * Communism and the Guatemalan Revolution
 * Juan Jose Arévalo
 * University of San Carlos

Thank you. Harr o 5 01:21, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * See also separate bibliographies here: Journal Articles and Books and External Links. This is a god-awful mess; this woman has seemingly plagiarised over 50 sources! Harr o 5 01:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

To me these look like copyvios, I propose to make them into redirects here, SqueakBox 01:25, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No need to have redirects as no one is likely to search these titles. Maybe just delete all as CSD A8? Harr o 5 01:28, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirects have solved the short-term problems, getting an admin to delete them would be great, SqueakBox 01:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've deleted the redirects under CSD R3. If the user comes back, I'd endorse indefinite deletion if she just posts more copyvios. Harr o 5 01:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Great job, thanks for fixing my mistakes on the 2 articles she just changed and if she comes back I will remove the text and speedy, SqueakBox 01:47, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * All the articles reappeared on April 16, 2006. I indefinetely blocked the user,, and am speedy deleting all the articles under CSD G4/A8. Harr o 5 23:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

After receiving a message from Professor Derek Williams at the University of Toronto explaining the nature of Joanne's edits, I replied both to Professor Martin and to Joanne allowing her to resume editing on Wikipedia under conditions including always replying to messages, using talk pages, and most importantly, not posting any new articles until there is community support on this page. Harr o 5 22:15, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

21st Century
This section needs to be exapnded further, compared to the Cold War era Guatemala is irrecognizable in just a short few decades. This fact needs to be highlighted further although there is much work to be done.

I dislike that Alfonso Portillo is portrayed in a positive light. On the last few hours that he enjoyed inmunity from prosecution he loaded up a plane full of cash stolen from the funds of the army and flew off to Mexico. He is a fugitive from justice and now lives in Mexico. These facts are well documented in the Guatemalan press.

His government is considered the most currupt in recent history and a complete failure. Organized crime picked up force during this era and now runs rampant. the administraiton did little or nothing to combat Guatemala's extensive problems; not to mention that it left the governemnt completely flat broke.

A link to people of the time are also needed like Efrain Rios Mont, Rogoberta Menchu, and other significant figures.

if you need resources for the expansion of pages on Guatemala might i point you in the direction of:

http://www.sigloxxi.com/

and especially

www.prensalibre.com

they are both great sources of information, keep extensive archives, are distributed nation-wide, and a harsh on the political class, although they are a little soft on big bisness.

Keep up the good work.

--SvenGodo 07:11, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Citation style
The citation style with a number in {curly brackets} isn't working. I don't know which source is supposed to be verifying the statement about 12,000 years ago. Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 01:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

El Mirador
Removed the following para concerning El Mirador, contains way too many errors to retain without complete rewrite: The city of El Mirador was the biggest city in ancient America, has the largest pyramid in the world, at 2,800,000 Mt2 of volume (some 200,000 more than the Giza pyramid in Egypt), and was by far the most populated city in the pre-Columbian America. In fact, Mirador was the first politically organized state in America, named the Kan Kingdom in ancient texts. There were 26 cities, some bigger than Tikal, the Jewel of the Classic period, all connected by huge Sacbeob (plural for highways ), or Sacbé (singular), meaning "White road", several km long and up to 40 mts. wide and 2 to 4 mts. above the ground, paved with stucco, that are clearly distinguishable from the air in the most extensive virgin tropical rain forest left in Mesoamerica. Thus, these were kingdoms equal in power and culture to those in Egypt, Mesopotamia, China, etc. Calling it the biggest/most populous city in the pre-Columbian Americas is false in both aspects, as there are others with larger estimated extent and populations; the pyramid measurements are not so confidently known; it was a long way from being the 1st politically organised state, or momumental centre, in the Americas (for eg some cities of Norte Chico in Sth America pre-date by almost 2000 yrs), or even of the Mesoamerican region, or even of the central/southern lowlands; there are more than 26 Mirador Basin sites known; not all of them are connected by sacbeob (which are not so easy to spot from the air, in any case). The remainder of the pre-Columbian section has its problems, but this para is particularly misleading, and warrants removal. --cjllw ʘ  TALK 00:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Do not delete content on Civil War
The content on the 36-year civil war is necessary for this article and should not be deleted. It is a good encapsulation of the war. Leaving the following two lines for this entire section is not sufficient:

"The Guatemalan Civil War was fought between 1960 and 1996 between the government and left-wing insurgents. The United States supported the government and Cuba and other Communist states the insurgents. 200,000 people were killed."

Do not delete this again without at least attempting to establish consensus here.Notmyrealname (talk) 19:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Covered in subarticle. That is what they are for.Ultramarine (talk) 08:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you've said that before. That's neither a convincing nor sufficient argument. Not all of the material on the subpage is repeated here. The main page should not be just a few sentences on each significant period with a link to a subpage. The sentences you left were also insufficient. For instance "200,000 people were killed" doesn't tell a reader that 90% or more of the deaths were caused by state actors. To use one of the two sentences to list who "supported" either side (a very incomplete list in any case), perhaps gives undue weight to outside actors. It was not merely a proxy Cold War battlefront. Of course the larger section of text could be improved with editing, but your scorched-earth policy makes it worse.Notmyrealname (talk) 16:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Most of the material is repeated here. Which defeats the purpose of subarticles. I have expanded the summary. If no concrete objection I will restore this version.
 * "The Guatemalan Civil War was fought between 1960 and 1996 between the government and left-wing insurgents. A variety of factors contributed: social and economic injustice and racism against the indigenous population, the 1954 coup which reversed reforms, weak civilian control of the military, Marxist ideology advocating violent revolution instead of democratic participation and reforms, the United States support of the government, and Cuban support of the insurgents. The Truth Commission estimates that more than 200,000 people were killed. Most of these indigenous people by state forces who used a "scorched earth" policy."Ultramarine (talk) 16:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The article does not seem overly long. This is one of the most studied and complicated periods of the country's history. I find your summary diminishes rather than improves the article. It seems to me like the problem is that the subarticle should be expanded, rather than cutting the text here on this page. You are proposing a major change here. I urge you to solicit more input. The article will be improved as a result.Notmyrealname (talk) 17:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The material in question is twenty paragraphs duplicating word for word material in the subarticle. Look at all other articles. A subarticle is presented with one or a few paragraphs summarizing the subarticle. They do not repeat word for word most of the material again. Another problem with keeping almost identical material in two articles is that new information must be added in two places. Furthermore, why keep almost the same material in two places? Those reader interested can easily go to the subarticle.Ultramarine (talk) 17:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your point that it is overly long is well taken. However, the approach you have been taking has not been an improvement. I would suggest a nip-and-tuck approach, rather than slash-and-burn. There is a great deal of variety in article organization. It is a well-studied and immensely important period in the country's history, and your attempts so far do not do it justice, even for a summary format. I see no benefit to massive cuts. Please take a slower approach, or build consensus for much more radical changes on this page here, rather than edit war. Notmyrealname (talk) 15:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No concrete reply to my points. I will therefore summarize.Ultramarine (talk) 11:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your summary was completely unsourced, poorly written, and insufficient. Several editors here have objected to your approach to this section. I agree with you in principle that the section should be shortened, however, not nearly to the extent to which you have attempted to do. Why not try cutting out and summarizing specific sections. There is no need to hurry. Your current actions are not helpful, although I appreciate your overall efforts to improve the article.Notmyrealname (talk) 03:19, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, nothing specific, just general allegations. If you have concrete text you want to add or change, then please state it. Otherwise I will restore my proposal.Ultramarine (talk) 04:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your massive edits to this section have been reverted by several different editors  . Your replacement text for this 36-year period have consisted of poorly written and unsourced accounts like this: "The Guatemalan Civil War was fought between 1960 and 1996 between the government and left-wing insurgents. The United States supported the government and Cuba and other Communist states the insurgents. 200,000 people were killed." and: "The Guatemalan Civil War was fought between 1960 and 1996 between the government and left-wing insurgents. A variety of factors contributed: social and economic injustice and racism against the indigenous population, the 1954 coup which reversed reforms, weak civilian control of the military, Marxist ideology advocating violent revolution instead of democratic participation and reforms, the United States support of the government, and Cuban support of the insurgents. The Truth Commission estimates that more than 200,000 people were killed. Most of these indigenous people by state forces who used a "scorched earth" policy." Specifically, this is not a good summary of the war. There are no references (and thus, it is a form of original research). Most of your sentences are ungrammatical. At this point you need to either make smaller edits to the article more slowly, or develop alternate text on the talk page that other editors agree with. You could also solicit the input of other neutral editors through an RFC or such, etc. Wikipedia is based on consensus. Notmyrealname (talk) 15:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Not a single concrete example of what is wrong. Why mention an earlier version not current anymore? References are in the main article. No need for them in an overview.Ultramarine (talk) 18:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I restored the deleted material. Was there a good reason why its was removed? I kepet Ultra's intro to it but left Notmyrealname's contributions because they seem valid and within consensus.Giovanni33 (talk) 20:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No need to repeat most of another article here. See above.Ultramarine (talk) 08:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright Violation
Besides the material on the civil war period in this article, much of the other material seems to have been copy and pasted from websites, possibly in violation of copyrights. For example, much of the material in the article appears here: [
 * Strange that you are making this claim when you know that the material is in the public domain.Ultramarine (talk) 03:19, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Needs a link to Álvaro Colóm. Ends abruptly without such a link.Thammer302 (talk) 03:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed merger of "References" and "Further reading" sections
Any objections to merging these two sections? I don't see a distinction.Notmyrealname (talk) 07:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

PreColumbian Era
I've gone in and found some citations that were not showing up because they were done incorrectly. I made the citations visible and rewrote the text to remove text that was confusing, opinionated and unnecessary. I hoped I've improved the section. I am slightly concerned that some of the text might be verbatim from the sources, but as they are not online sources was unable to check. Okiebradshaw (talk) 17:31, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Gone through it again and tried to reorganize the text into a cohesive read. Hope it's better, still unsure on any plagiarism issues the section might have. Okiebradshaw (talk) 19:53, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

POV confusion and deletion
It's clear there are several different overlapping writers:

''"After Jacobo Arbenz came to power in 1951, he extended political freedom, allowing Communists in Guatemala to participate in politics. This move by Arbenz let many opponents in Ubico’s regime to recognize themselves as Communists. By 1952, Arbenz supported a land reform, and took unused agricultural land, about 225,000 acres (910 km2), from owners who had large properties, and made it available to rural workers and farmers. These lands were to be taken from the United Fruit Company with compensation; however, the UFC believed the compensation was not enough. Meantime, Arbenz allowed the Communist Party to organize and include leaders notably his adviser who were leftist. The propaganda effort that was led by United Fruit Company against the revolution in Guatemala persuaded the U.S. government to fight against communism in Guatemala. The United States clutched on small details to prove the existence of widespread Communism in Guatemala. The Eisenhower administration at the time in the U.S. were not happy about the Arbenz government, they considered Arbenz to be too close to Communism; there have been reports that Arbenz’s wife was a Communist and part of the Communist Party in Guatemala. Even though it was impossible for the U.S. to gather evidence and information about Guatemala’s relations to the Soviet Union, Americans wanted to believe that Communism existed in Guatemala. Many groups of Guatemalan exiles were armed and trained by the CIA, and commanded by Colonel Carlos Castillo Armas they invaded Guatemala on June 18, 1954. The Americans called it an Anti-Communist Coup against Arbenz. The coup was supported by CIA radio broadcasts and so the Guatemalan army refused to resist the coup, Arbenz was forced to resign. In 1954 a military government replaced Arbenz' government and disbanded the legislature and they arrested communist leaders, Castillo Armas became president. Arbenz was elected without a secret ballot. He considered himself a communist and joined the Communist Party in 1957. His land reform, designed by the Communist Party, was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, which he then purged. His regime openly praised Stalin, relied on the communists for key decisions, and received arms from the Soviet bloc.[17] He killed hundreds of his opponents.[18] The CIA intervened because it feared that a communist dictatorship would become a Soviet beachhead in the Western Hemisphere.[19]"''

These two paragraphs are from different drafts and were just kind of stuck together.

Please don't delete without discussion. THis is the history of a real country, a wealth of studies into its history have been done, this article should not be so shitty, poorly written and back and forth. It needs to be coherant for people trying to learn about the histroy of the country and see what's truthful.

155.247.134.211 (talk) 21:19, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Size
This article is currently 142kb of text, far larger than the size at which the guidelines suggest breaking it up. There are no shortage of subsidiary articles in this area, so it seems to me that some content detail may safely be shifted to these. Unless any objections are raised, I will do so in a little while. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:45, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support --Cornellier (talk) 14:36, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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GA-ready?
Is this article ready for a ? It seems very comprehensive. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  23:55, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

 * I think it is a mess. Regards, Thinker78  (talk) 02:05, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Missing info about Colony
This article is missing information about its crucial colonial period, between the Conquest and the Independence. It would be great if someone can add it. Regards, -- Thinker78  (talk) 00:56, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Interbang!

Whats the story with the "united kindom originating stub" thing? What has this article to with the UK? (I created this stub, and neither I, nor the tv show are from the UK)

Do you mean interrabang?

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Denys Yurchenko

Denys Sergiyovich Yurchenko (Денис Сергійович Юрченко) (born 27 January 1978 in Donetsk) is a Ukrainian pole vaulter with three medals in Indoor Athletics Championships.

Career
At the 2000 Summer Olympics he suffered a mishap with a vaulting pole, injuring his groin and ending his season. He also initially won the bronze medal in the men's pole vault event at the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing.

On 17 November 2016, the IOC disqualified him from the 2008 Olympic Games, stripped his Olympic bronze medal and struck his results from the record for failing a drugs test in a re-analysis of his doping sample from 2008.

In May 2017, he was disqualified for two years.

His personal best jump (outdoor) is 5.83 metres, achieved in July 2008 in Kyiv.

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Grete Ingeborg Nykkelmo

Grete Ingeborg Nykkelmo (born 25 December 1961) is a former biathlete and cross-country skier from Norway. She competed in both events from 1982 to 1992.

She won four medals at the 1985 FIS Nordic World Ski Championships in Seefeld with a gold in the 20 km, a silver in the 4 × 5 km relay, and bronzes in the 5 km and 10 km. At the 1991 Biathlon World Championships in Lahti, she won a gold medal in the 7.5 km sprint and silvers in the 15 km individual and the 3 × 7.5 km relay.

In 1980 she became Norwegian champion in 10 km cross-country running, representing Selbu IL. On the same distance she won one silver medal (1981) and three bronze medals (1979, 1982, 1985).

Nykkelmo won the Egebergs Ærespris in 1990 for her top achievements and also won one additional cross-country skiing event in 20 km in 1986.

Cross-country skiing results
All results are sourced from the International Ski Federation (FIS).

World Championships

 * 4 medals – (1 gold, 1 silver, 2 bronze)

Individual podiums

 * 2 victories
 * 9 podiums

Team podiums

 * 3 victories
 * 5 podiums

Note:  Until the 1999 World Championships, World Championship races were included in the World Cup scoring system.

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Talk:Benjamin Ladner

Removal from AU
I've tried to restructure this article to make it easier for editors to add more about his life and not just lazily tacked-on updates about his alleged embezzlement. mholland 17:39, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

there's no reason this should be wikitexas, removing that tag. 76.100.66.8 08:11, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

In re: to mholland: The end of Ladner's tenure as American University President will be the most important thing that ever happens to his career, in his life, and is a huge stain on the reputation of the school itself. I think those portions deserve more attention. Disagree? Do a simple Google Search for "benjamin ladner" and I think you'll agree that overwhelming press attention surrounding the matter justifies a little more wordage on the matter here. Frankly, who gives a damn about his roots in Mobile Alabama or wherever given his professional indiscretions? It'd be like writing a biography on Bill Clinton and not mentioning impeachment...

"mholland's edits seem appropriate given the previous patchwork-style of the article. It's much more organized now and flows better. If the community deems the resignation more important, then the issue with be expanded or reference made in the intro.  Also, please remember to sign your name to comments.   Sententia (talk) 20:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)"

You have to be fucktarded not to mention the resignation. 66.189.117.222 (talk) 18:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

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Guillaume-André Fauteux

Guillaume-André Fauteux, (20 October 1874 – 10 September 1940) was a Canadian politician.

Born in St-Benoît, Quebec, a Conservative, he was defeated six times (1908, 1921, 1925, 1925 by-election, 1926, and 1930) while attempting to become a Member of Parliament.

From October 1, 1921 to December 28, 1921, he was the Solicitor General of Canada. From August 23, 1926 to September 24, 1926, during Arthur Meighen's short lived second term, he was the Solicitor General of Canada.

In 1933, he was appointed to the Senate representing the senatorial division of De Salaberry, Quebec. He died in office in 1940.

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Talk:Electric Sheep Comix

— J I P | Talk 17:39, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Though this article could use some fleshing out, but since e-Sheep is an umbrella site, I decided not to add the webcomic infobox. The AfD actually has some useful information that may be good to add. (Yeah, I know, )  –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 17:18, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Down!
Domain squatters got the site! Blah! So many classics. Death of a Jain, Rush Limbaugh Eats Everything, buncha other stuff I can't even remember. Is there a mirror anywhere? NTK (talk) 07:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Vinnie Colaiuta

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Comparisons to Tony Williams by unidentified people are fatuous and don't belong in an encyclopedia. (Also, an artist creates art. While Colaiuta may be technically skilled, let's bear in mind that Williams created art with Miles Davis.  It says something for Colaiuta's judgement as an artist that he works with minor talents like Sting and Paul Anka.  Please don't compare him to Tony Williams.) Ferdinand Pienaar 01:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Tony Williams also created some of the most overblown, self-indulgent musical masturbation ever recorded with his later work (24" bass drum era).  Your opinion on Sting/Paul Anka is irrelevant and pointless for this page, and your opinion of Vinnie's status as an artist is (thankfully) in the extreme minority.62.30.111.43 15:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Agree - IP 62 is correct. Your opinion should not, in fact, influence the content of this page, as WP strives to be true to facts and not personal views. Regards, xC | ☎  19:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Same image used for Dave Weckl article
The same image is used for the Dave Weckl article. I don't know what either drummer looks like, so I'll leave the fixing to someone else. --Skylights76 20:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Jing Chi?
There's absolutely no mention of the band Jing Chi, which was composed of him, Robben Ford, and Jimmy Haslip. As a matter of fact, there's no page for Jing Chi itself. Big problem, no? 68.148.174.70 (talk) 00:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Karizma
Vinnie was also part of the group Karizma http://www.bluedesert.dk/karizma.html He's been affiliated with the group since 1979! There is also no page on Karizma - unless you are talking about the serbian band or kariZma, 2 pages here on wikipedia. Microcosmmm (talk) 23:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

David Logeman did the drums on You Are What You Is
The wikipedia entry for You Are What You Is also gives no indication of Vinnie in the Personnel listing. Is this in error? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.109.98.44 (talk) 21:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Vinnie is listed as drummer on most tracks on Desmond Child's 1991 cd "Discipline" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.3.207 (talk) 00:44, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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Jeff Beck
Juts putting a bookmark here to remember to add some details about his extensive touring with Jeff Beck - I'll update the article itself time permitting. MarmotteiNoZ — Preceding undated comment added 04:43, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Winning the Sting Audition:
Sting has stated that Vinnie called him when he heard that auditions were being held. Sting told him not to bother flying to England from LA as he was pretty much done with the auditions. Vinnie insisted, Sting relented and stated that he was glad he did because Vinnie was fabulous and just what he was looking for at the time. 2601:1C0:8202:6280:C0F6:300:91C1:8E8A (talk) 16:15, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:RS? we need a citation. Acousmana 16:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:MechWarrior: Dark Age

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Cleaned up a bit, changed to make it a little mre current.

Wow, I can't believe this is still here. I originally posted this back when I had no idea how to format, and here it is today. Thanks, Wiki!

Danny Vey loves mech warrior!!! from newfoundland!!!205.251.63.75 03:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

2 new books
Added dark ages #28 and 29 as listed on fantasticfiction.co.uk website.Cold polymer 14:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, the link for "Martin Delrio" (author of the proving grounds trilogy) is redirecting to a sixteenth century Jesuit priest. Is there a way to fix that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.177.194.194 (talk) 02:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Re-Wrote the Novels Section, and added link to the novels main page. smnc (talk), 29 July 2024 (UTC) 09:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Picture?
This page needs an image of the miniatures. Nave.notnilc (talk) 16:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Epeen

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was merge with List of Internet slang. Rob Church Talk 23:46, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Epeen
Nothing links to this page.

 * Delete per nomination. Merge with List of internet slang per upon further review Tedernst 22:06, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That nothing links to an article is not a reason to delete it. Uncle G 18:06, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Maybe my reason is wrong. It's a dictionary entry that nothing else links to.  Why does it belong in Wikipedia?  Help me with the reason? Tedernst 18:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, neologism. Punkmorten 17:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Punkmorten Merge per Kappa, good call. As per Uncle G, the original rationale is incorrect.  Isn't the deletion policy linked from all the AFD pages?  — Lomn | Talk / RfC 18:48, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * A neologism to be sure, but it's gaining some widespread traction, especially on gaming forums. (Heck, if I've encountered it it must be pretty popular.) Still, it is little more than a definition of a slang term and not likely to be much else. Put me down as a weak transwiki to Wiktionary . Al 18:52, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That's not an option in this case. Please choose another course of action. Uncle G 19:26, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Very well. Merge with List of internet slang per . Al 21:23, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep no valid reason given in nomination. Hipocrite - « Talk » 19:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Did you bother to examine reasons in other votes? Blanketing a particular vote in AfD because the nom is just learning the ropes seems to skirt close to WP:POINT — Lomn | Talk / RfC 19:26, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with List of internet slang. Kappa 20:34, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge as per Kappa. Sliggy 23:49, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge per Kappa. (I can understand your frustration, though, Hipocrite.) --Jacquelyn Marie 04:03, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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Esbjörn Svensson Trio

Esbjörn Svensson Trio (or e.s.t.) was a Swedish jazz piano trio formed in 1993 consisting of Esbjörn Svensson (piano), Dan Berglund (double bass), and Magnus Öström (drums). Its music had classical, rock, pop, and techno elements. It listed classical composer Béla Bartók and rock band Radiohead as influences. Its style involved conventional jazz and the use of electronic effects and multitrack recording.

Biography
The trio deliberately blurred genres, with Svensson's musical catholicism drawing on a wide variety of artist influences. e.s.t. was also renowned for its vibrant style in live performances, often playing in rock and roll oriented venues to young crowds. It achieved great commercial success and critical acclaim throughout Europe. Its 1999 release From Gagarin's Point of View started its international breakthrough, being the first e.s.t. album to be released outside of Scandinavia through the German label ACT.

Svensson died in a scuba diving accident in Stockholm on 14 June 2008. He is survived by his wife and two sons. The publication All About Jazz remarked that the loss "will surely deeply sadden music lovers everywhere."

Since 2013 Magnus Öström and Dan Berglund are touring with the project e.s.t. symphony with Swedish arrangeur and conductor Hans Ek, performing symphonic versions of the e.s.t. songs.

Awards
In 1995 and 1996, Svensson was awarded Swedish Jazz Musician of the Year and 1998 Songwriter of the Year, and the 1997 release Winter in Venice (consisting mainly of original material) was awarded the Swedish Grammy. Strange Place For Snow, e.s.t.'s 2002 release earned numerous awards including the Jahrespreis der Deutschen Schallplattenkritik (from the German Phonoacademy), the German Jazz Award, Choc de l'année (Jazzman, France), the Victoire du Jazz – the French Grammy – as best international act and also the Revelation of the Festival award, a special award from Midem. In December 2004, e.s.t. was awarded the Hans Koller prize as European Artist of the Year.

Albums

 * Studio albums:
 * When Everyone Has Gone (Dragon, 1993)
 * EST Plays Monk (Superstudio Gul, 1996)
 * Winter in Venice (Superstudio Gul, 1997)
 * From Gagarin's Point of View (Superstudio Gul/ACT, 1999)
 * Good Morning Susie Soho (Superstudio Gul/ACT, 2000)
 * Strange Place for Snow (Superstudio Gul/ACT, 2002)
 * Seven Days of Falling (Superstudio Gul/ACT, 2003)
 * Viaticum (album) (ACT, 2005)
 * Tuesday Wonderland (ACT/EmArcy, 2006)
 * Leucocyte (ACT, 2008)
 * 301 (ACT, 2012)

 * Live albums:
 * E.S.T. Live '95 (ACT, 2001, originally released in 1995 on Swedish Dragon label as Mr. & Mrs. Handkerchief)
 * Live in Stockholm (ACT, 2003) DVD, recorded December 10, 2000 – including videos and an interview
 * Live in Berlin (ACT, 2005, Viaticum Platinum Edition, 2-CD Set - ACT 6001-2)
 * Live in Hamburg (ACT, 2007)
 * E.S.T. Live in London (ACT, 2018), recorded 2005
 * E.S.T. Live in Gothenburg (ACT, 2019), recorded 2001

 * Compilation albums
 * Somewhere Else Before (U.S. compilation on Columbia from From Gagarin's Point of View and Good Morning Susie Soho, 2001)
 * Retrospective - The Very Best of E.S.T. (ACT, 2009)

Also appear on

 * Beginner's Guide to Scandinavia, 2011 (Nascente/Demon Music Group)

Collaborations
The trio collaborated with several artists, including Pat Metheny. The Vinyl Trilogy was recorded with fellow countryman Nicolai Dunger.

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John See

Sir John See (14 October 1844 – 31 January 1907) was a member of the New South Wales Legislature from 26 November 1880 to 15 June 1901, and was then Premier of New South Wales from 1901 to 1904.

See was a self-made man of strong character, an excellent business man and a sound politician. He was well regarded by both sides of politics, for Labour politicians judged that the establishment of the State clothing factory during his administration had a great influence in abolishing sweating, and that the right to women to vote for New South Wales parliament, although not to stand for it, was also introduced. The governor of New South Wales at the time of his Premiership, the 7th Earl of Beauchamp, privately judged See to be "a self made man of good heart but a most pushing and disagreeable manner".

Early life
See was the son of Joseph See, a farm-labourer, and his wife Mary Ann née Bailey, and was born in Yelling, Huntingdon, England. The Parish Records of his baptism show that he was christened "See or Seekings" and that his parents/grandparents etc. used both surnames. He was brought to Australia in 1852 by his parents who settled on the Hunter River in New South Wales. On the family move to Australia they no longer used the "Seekings" surname. After three years at school See worked on the family farm, but in 1863 took up land with a brother on the Clarence River. In 1865, following disastrous floods, he went to Sydney and began business as a produce dealer. The business flourished under the name of John See and Company. He also became a partner in a small coastal shipping company, Nipper and See, which was afterwards floated into a company, as the North Coast Steam Navigation Company. See was a shrewd investor and became very well known in business circles in Sydney. In 1876, he married Charlotte Mary Matthews. See built a mansion called 'Urara' (now known as Milford House Nursing Home) in the Sydney suburb of Randwick and served on Randwick Council as alderman and mayor. He became a director of several well-known companies, a trustee of the Savings Bank of New South Wales, and president of the Royal Agricultural Society. In 1891, his shipping line had 14 steamships when it merged with another line to form the North Coast Steam Navigation Co. Ltd and he remained its joint managing director until his death. He also acquired property throughout the state, including Yester Grange.

Political career
See entered politics in 1880 as member for Grafton and remained its member until he retired in 1904. In October 1885, he joined the George Dibbs government as Postmaster-General, but Dibbs was defeated before the end of the year. See was not in office again until October 1891 when he became for nearly three years Colonial Treasurer in the third Dibbs ministry. He was in charge of the bill which brought in the first protectionist tariff in New South Wales. The whole of his period as Treasurer was marked by much financial stress throughout Australia. From August 1894 until September 1899, George Reid was in power, but when William Lyne came in, See was his Colonial Secretary.

On Lyne transferring to federal politics in March 1901, See became Premier and held office until 1904. His government passed the Industrial Arbitration Act in 1901 and the Female Suffrage Act in 1902. On the other hand, poor economic conditions and drought forced the government to abandon an ambitious public works program. Failing health and the death of his wife in March 1904 compelled him to retire in June. He accepted a seat in the Legislative Council, but was unable afterwards to exercise much influence in politics.

Death
See died at Randwick on 31 January 1907. He fathered ten children and was survived by four daughters and three sons.

See is buried in the Church of England section of what was then known as Long Bay Cemetery (now Randwick cemetery) along with members of his family including his wife Charlotte who died 3 years before him; infant children Percy aged 10 weeks, John Bruce aged 13 months, along with a grandson named Charles Bryen, the youngest son of John Charles Matthews See and his wife Constance L. née Bryen. John Charles Matthews See is also named here, after he died in 1932.

His youngest son Lieutenant Sydney Matthews See, who died in World War I on 10 October 1916 and is interred at Flatiron Copse Cemetery, Mametz, Somme, France, is commemorated on the obelisk at the Randwick Cemetery as well.

Honours
See was created Knight Commander of the Order of St Michael and St George in 1902. The See Parks in Grafton and Broken Hill are named after him, the one in Broken Hill being dedicated by him in 1902.

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Over the Years and Through the Woods

Over the Years and Through the Woods is the title of a live album and video by Queens of the Stone Age. The release features material on audio CD as well as video DVD—both recorded at London's Brixton Academy on Monday August 22, 2005 and KOKO on Tuesday August 23, 2005.

Recording and release
Over the Years and Through the Woods is the first live release by the band, and is sold as two different packages—either a CD case or a DVD case. Both versions include the same content on the discs. The DVD content was directed by Chapman Baehler.

Artwork
The cover art features an assortment of stylized letter Q's, which represent the band's studio albums released prior to Over the Years and Through the Woods. The blue, red and yellow 'Q' is taken from Rated R, Songs for the Deaf and Lullabies to Paralyze respectively. The band's cover logo is taken from their self-titled debut album.

DVD
Featuring "Spiders and Vinegaroons" (from the Kyuss/Queens of the Stone Age split EP, 1997) on the title screen.

Bonus
There are 13 bonus songs, recorded at various locations during each of four tours, split into the following sections (all songs is taken from said album unless noted):
 * Queens of the Stone Age
 * "The Bronze" – 3:38 (from The Split CD EP split with Beaver, 1998)
 * "Mexicola" – 5:34
 * Rated R
 * "Better Living Through Chemistry" – 5:54
 * "Auto Pilot" – 4:19
 * "How to Handle a Rope" – 3:29 (from Queens of the Stone Age)
 * Songs for the Deaf
 * "Quick and to the Pointless" – 1:34 (from Rated R)
 * "You Think I Ain't Worth a Dollar, But I Feel Like a Millionaire" – 2:36
 * "God is in the Radio" – 11:19
 * "Song for the Dead" – 6:09
 * "Regular John" – 2:02 (from Queens of the Stone Age)
 * "Hanging Tree" – 3:16
 * Lullabies to Paralyze
 * "Precious and Grace" – 3:33
 * "Burn the Witch" – 2:41

Personnel

 * Josh Homme – lead vocals, guitar, bass
 * Troy Van Leeuwen – guitar, lap steel, bass, backing vocals
 * Alain Johannes – bass, guitar, backing vocals
 * Joey Castillo – drums
 * Natasha Shneider – keyboards, backing vocals

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Front Row (software)

Front Row is a discontinued media center software application for Apple's Macintosh computers and Apple TV for navigating and viewing video, photos, podcasts and music from a computer, optical disc or the Internet through a 10-foot user interface (similar to Kodi and Windows Media Center). The software relies on iTunes and iPhoto and is controlled by an Apple Remote or the keyboard function keys. The first version was released in October 2005, with two major revisions since. Front Row was removed and discontinued in Mac OS X 10.7.

Introduction
Front Row was first unveiled on October 12, 2005 with the new iMac G5 (along with the built-in iSight camera, the Apple Remote, and Photo Booth). The software was billed as an alternative interface for playing and running iPhoto, DVD Player, and iTunes (Internet radio stations could play by adding the station into a playlist in iTunes).

In 2006, Front Row was added to the first Intel Mac Mini, which also gained a built-in infrared sensor and Apple Remote. The model's media center features were reviewed positively by PC World. This new version of Front Row could stream media from other computers on the local network.

Apple TV
The next incarnation, released in the original Apple TV software in March 2007, was a complete, stand alone application that played content directly from libraries. Among the features added were more prominent podcasts and TV show menus, trailer streaming, a settings menu, streaming content from computers on the local network, and album and video art for local media. In the summer of 2007, Apple released an update adding streaming of YouTube videos.

Version two
Released in November 2007 with Mac OS X v10.5 (Leopard), version two of Front Row included the new features introduced with the Apple TV (except for the YouTube viewer), a different opening transition, ending AirTunes functionality, and a launcher application in addition to the Command+Escape keyboard shortcut.

Front Row 2 has an undocumented plug-in architecture, for which various third-party plugins are now available, based on reverse-engineering the Front Row environment. Because it uses QuickTime to render video, Front Row can utilize any codec installed in QuickTime, including DivX, Xvid and WMV, and play DVD images copied to the hard disk. However, because Front Row does not use QuickTime X, it lacks support for certain codec features like Sample Aspect Ratio.

"Take 2"
In January 2008, Apple announced an update branded "Apple TV Take Two" for Apple TV Software. In addition to the prominent addition of direct downloads for movies, TV episodes, and podcasts via the iTunes Store, movie rentals, the ability to view online photos from Flickr or iCloud (branded .Mac at the time), and the ability to stream audio to AirTunes were added. This update did away with Front Row and introduced a new interface for the original Apple TV in which content was organized into six categories, all of which appeared in a large square box on the screen upon startup (movies, TV shows, music, YouTube, podcasts and photos) and presented in the initial menu, along with a "Settings" option for configuration, including software updates.

Discontinuation
Front Row was discontinued with the July 2011 release of Mac OS X Lion (v 10.7). The software appeared in neither the early Developer Previews nor the final version.

While it was initially possible to reinstall Front Row by copying the frameworks and application into OS X Lion, iTunes v 10.4 on 22 July 2011 broke compatibility, causing those who updated iTunes to lose access to their music through Front Row.

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Dromahane

Dromahane is a village located 5 km  south west of the town of Mallow, County Cork, Ireland on the R619 regional road. Centred on a main crossroads, the village overlooks the Blackwater Valley. As of the 2016 census, Dromahane had a population of 959 people.

Dromahane is within of the civil parish of Kilshannig. There are several ringforts in the area and Dromineen Castle is nearby. st Peters Church was finished in 1904 and was renovated in 1956

Transport
By road, the Dromahane junction is 2 mi south of Mallow on the N20. Alternate routes from Mallow include taking the "Navigation Road" or the "Old Cork Road".

Although the main rail line between Mallow and Kerry passes just to the north of the village, the nearest railway station is Mallow railway station about 6 km away.

Economy
The village has two pubs, Hickey's Beer Garden and The Russell Inn, which is more commonly referred to as Corkery's Pub. Hickey's also operates an off licence. The village has just the one shop.

South of Dromahane is the Dromore "Point to Point" race track, which draws crowds from all over Munster to the village for the horse racing event.

Other businesses located in the village include a nursing home, a joinery, printers, electricians, hauliers, plumbers, plant hire, ironmonger and agri-contractor.

Amenities

The village has a large school primary (national) school. The nearest secondary schools are in Mallow town.

The village also has St Peter's Roman Catholic church.

The local underage GAA club is called Thomas Russell's and they have their grounds in the village of Glantane, located 3 mi west of Dromahane. There is also a tennis club in the area.

People
Thomas Russell, sometimes referred to as "the man from God knows where", was born in the village on 21 November 1767. He was a founding member of the United Irishmen and was hanged in 1803 in Downpatrick gaol for his involvement in uprisings against the British.

An old graveyard (Kilshannig) is located north of the village and this is where Daniel O'Connell's maternal ancestors are buried. Also, the parents of Thomas Croke, after whom Croke Park is named, are buried here.

In his book Mo Sgéal Féin, Canon Peter O'Leary (Peadar Ua Laoghaire) talks about Dromahane in a discussion of his ancestry. He says his mother's father, Conor O'Leary, married Nell Hickey of Dromathane (an alternate spelling). From the translation by Cyril Ó Céirnín published in 1987:

 * "They had a son, Conor was his name, a very wise, very prudent man. He married one of the Hickeys, a daughter of Tadhg 'ach Aindriais, who was living over at Dromathane, on the banks of the Blackwater; the daughter was called Neill ni Taidhg. They had the full of the house of children. Siobhán was the name of one of the daughters."

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Texas Ranger Division

Texas Ranger Division
Partial self nom. This article was the Texan Collaboration of the Month in August, and it was turned from a stub into a good basic article by Katefan0, SaltyPig and other users. After massively rewriting and expanding it by myself, a thorough copyedit by Tony1 and Katefan0, a deep check of its images' status by Carnildo, a month at Peer Review, and still more work afterwards... I feel it's time to finally submit it for your consideration. Thanks for your attention! Shauri   smile!  17:44, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Object At 50 kb, (46 w/o extras), the article needs to be authored in summary form. Consider moving the =history= section to a dedicated article and add a summary of it here. There is also no need for so many subheadings. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I've tried a different approach and removed the quasi-trivia lists, which added very little to the article, and that were created when we basically got started and needed topics to cover. The later development of the article has made the importance of such lists almost marginal. As of now, the full size is 46k (42 without extras), which is around the size of many FAs. Also, I've formatted some sections and reduced the number of subheadings. Hope this is enough. Thx for the input, Nichalp! Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  18:58, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * summary style has the reasons why the article should be written as a summary. 42 is still on the higher side. This article has the potential to be summarised further. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  04:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. I have nothing against a large article. In fact, I think that many articles suffer from limitations on size, which I experienced when I wrote large parts of the article Norse mythology. This is not a paper encyclopedia :-).--Wiglaf 18:45, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Please read summary style. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:55, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with what SoLando says below. I disagree that article length should be an argument against FA status, and especially if there are already FA articles of equal length. Moreover, the summary style is a proposed guideline.--Wiglaf 05:38, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Have you read the rationale behind the summary style? I've always objected to a long article which can be clearly summarised. I have no problems with an article size = 40kb if it is written in summary style. For example, take a look at Economy of India. Although sections are neatly summarised, the article by its very nature has to include a plethora of subjects, and so is large. And, I welcome you to FAC. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  05:32, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * But in this article, the history is so central. Summarizing the history of the Texas Rangers and moving the bulk of the history to a separate article would be like removing a central part of what makes them what they are. It would be like taking the meat out of the sandwich. It would be nice making my own FACs, but that will have to wait a few months until I have finished my dissertation.--Wiglaf 07:14, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * You're looking at it from a wrong angle. Think of it as removing the bones out of the meat. :) I've already mentioned what has to be done on Shauri's page.  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  16:48, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I am sorry, but the analogy escapes me. Likewise it escapes me why this excellent article absolutely has to be rejected because of a few kb.--Wiglaf 19:20, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Its not the raw kb that I'm looking at. I'm looking for a summary. Unfortunately most newbies get confused between this. If the article size exceeds 30kb start looking at summary options (30 w/0 extras such as referencs interwiki etc). Three or four kb here and there do not make so much of a difference. Shauri asked me if I would support if the article was at 37 kb, I told her I'll support if the history is written as a summary, kb size not the major issue. In other words, move the details from here to a new history article and provide an overview of the history. Since I have summarised many article in the past, I can tell whether or not an an article needs a summary. You'll get it once you start getting articles featured. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  05:40, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry to pile this all on you, but I think that covered every objection I could make, so if this is addressed. I'm sure to support. Good luck! - Mgm|(talk) 21:36, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Object for now. I don't have anything against long articles, but after a thourough copyedit, I found some minor, but important points that need clearing up.
 * While the second paragraph states the Rangers are a North American organization, nowhere is it mentioned they work in the United States. It may seem obvious to most people, but you can't assume anything. If I knew where it would fit best, I'd have done it myself, but I'm not sure.
 * The leads says it's an agency "with statewide jurisdiction based in Austin, Texas", which I believed to be sufficient; but as you say, one can't assume anything, and thus I've added "in the United States" to that line.
 * The lead doesn't mention the famous cases the rangers handled.
 * I intended the lead to be a summary, since they are developed in the body of the article; but I like the sugestion, so I've just added the information to the lead.
 * It's not really actionable, but the lead image doesn't work for me. Any alternatives?
 * If you forgive me, Mgm, the matter is extremely subjective. Nearly "anything" could go here, from a badge to an old picture. The image is intended to show the presence of the TRs in modern Texans' mind. Please observe that this huge statue is located right outside the entrance to the Texas State Capitol. Such a symbolism is notable, and I wanted to give a first image that was detached from a particular period of time.
 * I really like this explanation. And I really, really like the picture - of course, I did suggest we use it, so I'm biased.  Johntex\talk 00:03, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The early history sections has a lot of the years and dates seperated making it hard to wikify both so the user preferences can kick in.
 * I've just addressed this throughout the entire article.
 * I've fixed them, but 1950s points to the article 1950, 1950s is a different article . Please take care when wikifying.
 * Done as well.
 * In the "Mexican American War" section it is said Sam Houston increased the numbers of Rangers when he was reelected because he saw their efficiency. Why would he, when he previously disbanded part of the forces because he felt peaceful coexistence with Indians was the way to go?
 * Because there were tribes that didn't want peace; but mostly, to repel Mexican invasions, as it is mentioned in the very same paragraph. Also, he didn't had disbanded them previously; he merely didn't give the Rangers the military role that Lamar did.
 * Horseback riding is occasionally mentioned in the article, and it's clear it was done from the start, but it doesn't say if Horses were out of the budget during the depression or how many Rangers still have horses available today.
 * As for the first point, I added a small line to the Depression paragraphs, stating that they had to used their own personal horses (sourced in the Handbook of Texas) as means of transportation. In fact, Rangers had always needed to supply their own mounts until the 20th century. As to the second point, well, they still have horses at their disposal if needed, and I guess it could be added, but... do you really think this information is suited for the article? When discussing the history of the agency within the broader history of Texas, and addressing political, military and criminal issues, I feel that going into this sort of details it's a bit like beating around the bush imho...
 * The words "seceded" and "apocryphal" need to be changed or explained.
 * Really? I never imagined they should, since both words aren't that difficult to understand and, imho, they are clear in the given context. Why do you think that, Mgm?
 * I wikified apocryphal so anyone who doesn't know what it means will get sent to apocryphal. Johntex\talk 00:03, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Likewise, I wikified seceded. Johntex\talk 00:07, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * McNelly had a knack for disobeying orders? What is the source for this?
 * The same one for the line that preceeds it, which is under the footnotes section. An "ibid" note can't hurt, tho, so I just added it.
 * The bit about partisans in the 20th century section needs a source too.
 * Same as above. Source added.
 * The 20th century section has a bit where the word "worse" is used twice in quick succession. Could the first be clarified and changed?
 * Done, I rephrased the paragraph, within the strict limits of the meaning intended by the source.
 * Legislature was passed on March 31. What year was that?
 * The reason why the year wasn't cited is because it was the last mentioned year. Solved, anyway.
 * The car image is nice, but its use is not mentioned in the article. The article could use expansion on the mode of transportation for Rangers over the years (not only during the depression)
 * I added a mention to the time when the automobile was officially adopted by the agency; but as I said above, I feel that (although it is certainly interesting, and I have sources to address it) a further detailed expansion on the mode of transportation for Rangers over the years is not of primary importance within the limits of this article.
 * Source needed: Hardin had an affair with his killer's wife.
 * Source added, and also some precisions to these facts.
 * Bonnie and Clyde section: May 21 of what year?
 * Same as above, solved.
 * "Most Rangers also preferred to wear broader-brimmed sombreros as opposed to cowboy hats". Can someone put a time stamp on this?
 * Extremely difficult to do with precision, but a time window can be established based on pictorial evidence found at different sources (especially one of the External Links), and I just added it.
 * I'm also missing a mention of Walker, Texas Ranger and Rangers in general in pop culture. Are they portrayed realistically?
 * Well, this serves to prove that one can't please everybody! I've just re-added mentions in Popular Culture at your request.
 * As I just told you, there's nothing to apollogize for, Mgm :) I'll adress the remaining points right away. Hugs, Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  22:19, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I believe I've addressed all of your concerns, my dear Mgm. Please let me know your thoughts. Hugs, Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  23:51, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Support, thourough and well-sourced. My beef with the image is the angle it's taken from. I didn't notice the building behind it and the image doesn't show off its impressiveness, but that's really a tecnicality. - Mgm|(talk) 20:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Object too long. Needs to use summary style. Borisblue 23:44, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Support A very informative, comprehensive article. Article size of 42 to 49 kilobytes (to me) should be acceptable; many featured articles are of an equal (even larger) size, so I hope that objection won't determine whether this article receives its (deserved) FA status or not. If it does have to be reduced in size, I'd prefer the "High-profile busts" section being made into a small summary, with the main text being moved into something like "Prominent arrests made by the Texas Ranger Division" (that title seems a bit awkward. Sorry!). The "Popular culture" section could be moved into another article, too - it wouldn't realy have a noticeable affect on the article size, though. SoLando (Talk) 03:19, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Please read the above as to why I have objected. Size of any two articles cannot be compared. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  05:32, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Object I found the article very instructive. However, I am concerned that there seems to be a general exceedingly positive tone. Ex: today the Texas Rangers Division is generally regarded as one of the most efficient law enforcement agencies in the world — regarded by whom? I strongly doubt that law-enforcement forces around the world know about the Texas Rangers (though now, obviously, many have heard about it from Walker, Texas Ranger, but one cannot base oneself on fiction to judge), or that they have voted upon it. Similarly, while there has been some limited criticism on 19th century brutality, there does not seem to be any kind of discussion of modern issues. David.Monniaux 08:17, 13 October 2005 (UTC)<
 * David, I see that you have chosen to ignore the improvements that have been done to meet your demands. Shauri left you polite message about this, which you chose to ignore according to your activity afterwards It is consequently obvious that you are no longer taking part in the discussion, and there is little use for your comment here anymore. I am consequently forced to strike it.--Wiglaf 22:27, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * My dear Wiglaf, let's just let David answer my comment. I'm confident he'll reply in due time. Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  23:14, 15 October 2005 (UTC) 2
 * Done (totally forgot about it). By the way, you are not supposed to edit other people's comments yourself, even if you decide that their criticisms are unwarranted. David.Monniaux 06:51, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The striking had more to do with the fact that you seemed to have disappeared in spite of Shauri's kind request for a new comment. An oppose vote serves no purpose if the voter does not take part in discussing the improvements.--Wiglaf 10:20, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you for the positive criticism, David. As I see, you have two concerns: phrases like the one you point (please note where else at the article you find "excesively possitive tone", and I'll gladly address it). As for "today the Texas Rangers Division is generally regarded as one of the most efficient law enforcement agencies in the world", the answer is, by other law enforcement agencies, and I can source that. To your concern: "I strongly doubt that law-enforcement forces around the world know about the Texas Rangers", I must note that unfortunately, you're wrong. The fame of the TRs troughout the world is firmly established, and as an example, I wish to offer you an extremely illustrative example here. If the sole idea that they would be facing the TRs caused such unrest through the III Reich that the German Ministery of Propaganda had to openly dismiss the rumor, it speaks of the widespread fame that the TRs have throughout the world. I also don't consider that the criticism of brutality is "limited"; nearly all arguments regarding the issue have been included without going in particular detail, something that I deemed unnecesary for size purposes. I invite you to check the vast majority of webpages (even books) on the subject; you'll see that criticism is absent, unlike here. There also isn't any kind of discussion on modern issues like these, simply because there are none to the best of my knowledge; and if you happen to find information that points otherwise, I'd be happy if you could bring it to my attention here so I can include it. Thanks again, Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  13:27, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * In any case, just to solve the issue for good, I've rephrased the line regarding their fame as an effective agency, and sourced it. Shauri
 * I'm somewhat concerned that you use as "reference" some Web site that is obviously a tribute to the Texas Rangers. Apart from one anecdotal example, we see nothing. I can attest to you that hardly anybody in France had ever heard of Texas Rangers before the Walker TV-show appeared. David.Monniaux 17:07, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, my dear David, if you worked on a law enforcement agency, perhaps you would! But in any case (as I just mentioned above) I removed already that phrase and simply mentioned that "they have intervened on several thousand cases with a high level of effectiveness", sourced "not" on a tribute page but on the Handbook of Texas, a reputed online source by the University of Texas at Austin. I believe this settles the matter. I merely used the example above for illustrative purposes at this talk, not at the article itself. Thanks! Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  19:04, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * At the base of the statue currently shown as the lead photo in the article, there is a quote by Teddy Roosevelt something to the effect of feeling secure anytime he had the Texas Rangers guarding his flank. Unfortunatelly, I am not within easy driving distance of the statue in order to get the wording correct, and I cannot find an on-line reference to it. Johntex\talk 00:12, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for addressing my concerns. However, there exists, I think, still a few phrases that should (in my humble opinion) be phrased otherwise. Take, for instance, such as taking part in summary executions and confessions induced by extreme means. What does "summary execution" mean? Is it the same as what we have at summary execution, or was it lynching? (And then, why not include wikilinks?) What are confessions induced by extreme means? If you mean torture, say so.
 * Let's call a spade a spade and use plain-spoken language. David.Monniaux 08:04, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed, David, and your input is welcome to introduce tweaking into any phrases you believe necessary. The one you point out has been rephrased within the limits of the facts that are presented by the source. Again, thanks for your positive contribution. Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  13:49, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm quite happy with the current formulation. David.Monniaux 08:02, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Object There are lots of bizarre wording here and there: "At the beginning of the 20th century, Texas' frontiers had become more civilized", "the Texas Rangers Division is generally regarded as one of the most efficient law enforcement agencies in the world" (why, how, by whom, for doing what ? Citation ?). Issues of racism seem mainly addressed a contrario ("The agency is also fully integrated with modern Texan ethnic groups...") or in what could be seen as appreciative folklore stories ("Los Diablos Tejanos"), which raise more questions than they solve, in my reading. The history part is very detailed, but this makes it overly long, and some issues (such as racism) are not discussed from a perspective. Also the whole article is organised in a way which makes me think more of a collection of things put on top of each other than of one coherent article. Rama 08:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Please, try to be more polite when you chose your wordings. People may take offense by words such as bizarre.--Wiglaf 11:04, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Humm, with all due respect, Rama, I've read your objection thrice, and I still can't quite understand most of what you expect. Let me try and analyze what I believe you object:
 * "Bizarre" wording (?) "Civilized" is bizarre? Again, with all respect, I hardly think the same. Perhaps you could care to clarify what you mean? I guess I understand what you mean, from what Johntex says; he has already addressed this for me.
 * That other phrase may be a little unfortunate, but it's a quote, and nothing of my own making. As I told David, I'll gladly source it right away.
 * Solved, as I just replied at David's objection.
 * Racism is not discussed from a "perspective"? From which "perspective"? Addressed "a contrario"? If you feel the article fails in its NPOV, then I suggest that you read my above comment to David, and invite you to search for other sources that address the matter in a more neutral way. It is said that it is fully integrated because, as of today, hardly any issues of racism (if any at all) have been linked to the agency, unlike its past, where it is deeply discussed, sourced, and imho addressed with full seriousness. It appears as if you were focusing from a wrong view. Let's see in a very simplified way: they "were" anti-Mexican and anti-Indian at some points of its history, but they are no longer now, at least not as an organization (impossible to tell what each Ranger personally thinks), thus it is fully integrated today and to prove that, it has several Latino and African American among its members. What's so unclear with that? Again, care to explain exactly what you mean?
 * "or in what could be seen as appreciative folklore stories ("Los Diablos Tejanos"), which raise more questions than they solve, in my reading." "Appreciative"? With all due respect, you're the first person I ever find that considers it an "appreciative" tale. It is one of respect obtained by fear, and as it is said at the article, they earned it "ruthlessly". "that" is what is inteded to show with this quote: their fame, not their "appreciation". Once again, please explain what questions this matter raises you, as I find your objection here extremely sui generis.
 * As for the organization of the article, it tries to cover all topics related to the subject, like famous anecdotes, uniform, etc. Again, you're the fist person ever to raise this point. It is meant to be a "comprehensive" article on the subject, unlike the vast majority of existing sources. Perhaps you could suggest a different organization?
 * If you allow me to quote you, my dear Rama, your objections raise more questions than they solve. I apollogize for the hasty words, honestly. Still, I would really appreciate a bit more in depth analysis to address your concerns. Rest assured I'll do my best to solve them. Thank you! Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  13:27, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I am guessing the objection to the "bizzare" wording is asking whether frontiers can be civilized. We might want to replace "civilized" with "settled". Johntex\talk 20:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I think that the issue here is that words such as "civilized" are inherently POV, i.e. they express a moral judgment on what is and what isn't civilization. For instance, I'm ready to believe that the Native Americans considered themselves "civilized" and considered that the settlers were barbarians at their gates, stealing their land, and pillaging and raping their villages. I thus would prefer that such words were replaced by factual phrases, alluding for instance to the absence of settlements of people of European origin. David.Monniaux 07:42, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't think that the editors of the article had that specific sense of civilized in mind when they used the word. In this context, I interpret civilized as the more overarching sense of "the state of having brought a well-organized Western institutional culture to the area", which is in fact what happened. I am positive that civilized is here contrasted to the settler culture that preceded it, and not to the Amerindian culture.--Wiglaf 07:54, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That's correct, Wiglaf; the meaning intended was exactly the one you point out. The issue was already been clarified by Johntex, however, so I hope this particular point is solved. Shauri  [[Image:Heart.gif|11px]]  smile!  13:49, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, I have a general problem with Texas Ranger Division; it is overall a good article and an interesting one, but I would not nominate it for Featured article in its present state; my main point of criticism is that it tends to be an accumulation of very detailed and picturesque anecdotes, lacking what I would expect of an encyclopedic distance. For instance, Texas_Ranger_Division is so detailed that in my opinion, it stops being informative (on the general subject of the Texas Rangers) and starts stuffing the reader with clichés.
 * Also, as I mentionned earlier, there are several instances of implied features: for instance, what does "The agency is also fully integrated with modern Texan ethnic groups, counting numerous officers of Hispanic and African American origin" suggest ? That the only mention of a racial discrimination is the a contrario allusion to the fact that it is now ended is disturbing to me.
 * The article is mined with similar details which sacrify historic distance and critic understanding to folkloric details and praises. These are certainly unconscious, and I do not doubt your good faith, but I think that there is a very regional POV (Texan subject discribed by Texans forthe entertainment for other Texans) which makes this article look much more like a fan site than a critical, encyclopedic article.
 * Lots of details can't save a lack of general vision. I know that it is often what happens at first; I did the same for UNPROFOR. But I know that UNPROFOR needs lots of work, and I'd never suggest it as a featured article in its present state.
 * Besides, I find it particularly peculiar that some people should entitle themselves with the right to decide whether or not objections of other users still stand. Rama 22:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it is even more peculiar when oppose votes are left and the voter is to be seen no more. This is a discussion page, where we discuss how to improve the article for FA status, not a place where people appear to have thrown in an oppose vote and run away. Moreover, Shauri's kind request for a comment was ignored until I dealt with it (a coincidence?).--Wiglaf 10:24, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Big Texas-sized SUPPORT! This article is obviously the product of a lot of time and hard work and is clearly and interestingly written and throughly researched. Whenever someone says something is "too long" that is usually a sure sign they did'nt bother to really read it. Why are you complaining about a mere 50k length, unless you are on a 1200 baud modem? :). Still others would have parts of it lengthened for the sake of "Political correctness", which most of the time means Historical Incorrectness and leads to Political Revisionism. My hats off to Shauri for sticking to her guns. This being said, there are some minor, valid criticisms. A few phrases which might need some tweaking or rewording, a date or two (such as the Bonnie & Clyde shootout) which need filling in. But these are easily corrected and no reason to seriously oppose this fine work of historical narrative.--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 20:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Great comments, Ghost!--Wiglaf 20:45, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Support I agree with Ghost that the length of this article is not a problem. I also think the article strikes the right tone with regards to rasism accusations, etc.  I'll try to help fix a few of the valid but minor suggestions/criticisms about word choices, etc, in order to make the article even better, but I think it is FA material already as it is. Johntex\talk 20:58, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Support—Although I did work over the first two-thirds of the text a month ago, I feel distant enough from it to vote. I'm in the process of going through it again to make minor improvements. Tony 06:57, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Support: very instructive, some good recent edits, size is not, IMHO, a valid objection. This would be very far from being the longest FA. Filiocht | The kettle's on 10:52, 14 October 2005 (UTC)


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Category:Anglican cathedrals

The following are cathedral churches within Anglicanism.

title: Category:Anglican cathedrals


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Highgate Hill

Highgate Hill may refer to:

 * Highgate Hill, a street and locality in Highgate, London, United Kingdom
 * Highgate Hill, Queensland, a suburb of Brisbane, Australia
 * Highgate Hill, earlier name of Highgate, Western Australia, a Perth suburb

title: Highgate Hill