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HMS Seal (N37)

HMS Seal was one of six Grampus-class submarine mine-laying submarines of the Royal Navy. She served in the Second World War and was captured by the Kriegsmarine and taken into German service as UB, one of several captured subs. She was the only submarine the Germans captured at sea during World War II. Her capture allowed the Germans to correct a critical fault in their U-boat torpedoes.

Seal was laid down at the Chatham Dockyard on 9 December 1936, launched on 27 September 1938 and commissioned into the Royal Navy on 28 January 1939. During her entire British career, her commander was Rupert Lonsdale, for whom it was his second command.

Early career
On being commissioned, Seal went for acceptance trials at Dartmouth and in Torbay. On the day of her first successful deep dive, 1 June 1939, news arrived of the loss of HMS Thetis (N25) undergoing trials at Liverpool, a personal setback for the crew who had lost many friends. Seal moved to Gosport to complete torpedo trials.

On 4 August, she sailed to China to join HMS Grampus (N56) and HMS Rorqual (N74) via Gibraltar, Malta and the Suez Canal. However, on the outbreak of the Second World War, she was detained at Aden and made two ad hoc patrols watching the Italians, who it was feared might be towing German submarines while Italy was still not at war. She returned home, escorting a damaged destroyer in the Mediterranean. Back in the North Sea, she carried out one patrol near the Dogger Bank and received her first attack from German aircraft. She then augmented a convoy escort to Halifax, Nova Scotia, a 14-day crossing. She was back in time for Christmas leave and was based at Elfin, a temporary establishment at Blyth, Northumberland. She settled to a North Sea patrol routine as part of the Norwegian campaign being based at Rosyth. One night in February, Seal was given an extra set of personnel – an armed boarding party – and was assigned to take part in the hunt for the GERMAN TANKER Altmark. However Seal played no part in the Altmark incident. Admiral Horton met Seal on one of her returns to Rosyth and commented, "You're too damn clean for a war-time boat. Something must be wrong." However, he revised his opinion when he reviewed the log-books to "you must have a damn good crew."

By the beginning of April 1940, the Germans had invaded Norway, and Seal was operating off the Norwegian coast. Lonsdale decided to enter Stavangerfjord, a hazardous operation and reached the port of Stavanger using the novel Asdic equipment. There were four merchant ships in the harbour, but they all carried neutral flags; Lonsdale's requests to attack a seaplane base and land a shore party to sabotage the railway met with firm refusals; and the German naval craft they encountered had too shallow a draught for Seal's torpedoes to hit. The disappointed crew returned to Rosyth, narrowly escaping a torpedo attack at the same place and time as that in which HMS Thistle (N24) was lost.

Loss in Kattegat
Having been at sea for a year, and suffering some damage from a scrape with a merchant ship, Seal was due to return to dry-dock at Chatham. However her sister ship HMS Cachalot (N83) had been rammed and needed serious attention in the dry-dock. Some repairs to Seal were carried out at Blyth, Northumberland, and she was required to take over Cachalot's minelaying duties. She was assigned to Operation DF 7, a mine-laying mission in the Kattegat between Denmark and Sweden. This was a particularly daunting task, especially for a submarine the size of Seal. Captain Bethall, the commanding officer of the flotilla, failed to persuade Admiral Horton to reconsider his orders.

On 29 April 1940, Seal left Immingham laden with 50 mines. On entering the Skagerrak, she met HMS Narwhal (N45) just leaving the area after having stirred up German defences by scoring six hits with six torpedoes. Seal was running at shallow depth to maintain speed and conserve fuel, when she was spotted by a German Heinkel He 115 on 4 May at about 02:30. She dived to 90 ft and was slightly damaged by a bomb. Later that morning, Lonsdale discovered German anti-submarine trawlers searching for them around her target area, and he had to divert to the secondary target area. At about 09:00, Seal started to lay down her mines and completed that mission some 45 minutes later.

Seal turned and headed for home, with the trawlers heading after her. Lonsdale took an evasive course, and used the Asdic to identify when the trawlers were stopping to listen. Then, at 3:00 pm, he spotted a patrol of nine German anti-submarine motor torpedo boats heading from a different direction. There were too many hours of daylight left, and the Kattegat was too shallow to allow a submarine as large as Seal to go deep and run for it. Lonsdale evaded detection by following a zig-zag course and at around 18:00 settled the submarine in stop-trim at the bottom of the sea. Unknown to the crew, they had entered an uncharted minefield. One of the submarine's hydroplanes caught a mine stay-cable and at about 18:30, the attached mine was swept by the current onto the stern of the boat. There was a huge explosion and Seal was severely damaged.

A painful increase in air pressure indicated that a large amount of water had entered the submarine. The crew's evening meal was catapulted round the mess rooms and the boat tilted bow upwards at about 10 degrees. All the watertight doors were quickly sealed and all crew accounted for, after two who had been trapped in the after end of the boat managed to make their way to the control room. To the crew's surprise, the pursuing ships had not noticed the explosion and moved away. After various inspections and repairs, the crew had to wait until 22:30 when it was dark enough for an attempt to be made to raise the submarine.

At 10:30 pm, the ballast tanks were blown empty and the main motors started, but the stern stayed firmly stuck on the sea bed. The bow rose at a sharp angle, and the attempt had to be abandoned. By this time, the air quality had deteriorated badly. Pumping carried on and emergency repairs were made to start the pump to blow air into the rear trimming system. For a second attempt to surface, the 11-ton drop keel was released. This meant that the submarine could not submerge again. More compressed air was used to blow the remaining tanks, but again the attempt was unsuccessful. Carbon-dioxide poisoning was having an accelerating effect on the crew and a third attempt was called for, using the engines and main ballast. This also failed.

At 01:10, Lonsdale, a devout Christian, called his crew to prayer and led them in the Lord's Prayer. The crew then responded to his order for them to move as far forward as they could to try to tip the balance, though many fainted or were sick. While thoughts went to using the Davis escape gear, it was realised that it would take several hours to escape by this method and there was a risk of flooding the entire craft before more than a few could escape. The engineers found they could open a salvage-blow and a final attempt was made to raise the submarine. The motors caught fire, but the fire went out for lack of oxygen. The batteries were nearly empty and the high pressure air exhausted. The engineer realised there was one air pressure group left with a tiny amount of air, which was some way up the companionway. He reached and opened the valve, and the submarine started to move upwards.

Seal surfaced at 01:30. After the pressure was released, the fresh air caused blinding headaches to the crew, who had suffered oxygen deprivation. Lonsdale clambered to the bridge, and sighting land, decided to try to make for Swedish waters. The confidential papers were consigned to the sea bed, and the Asdics were destroyed and the pieces thrown overboard. Lonsdale sent a message to the Admiralty: "Am making for the Swedish coast". With the cipher books destroyed, Lonsdale did not receive two replies – "Understood and agreed with. Best of luck" and "Safety of personnel would be your first consideration after destruction of the Asdics". If he had, they would have saved him a considerable amount of anguish over his subsequent decisions. The rudder was damaged and the boat impossible to steer, but it was found that it could be made to go in reverse. Fair progress was made, but mud had entered the lubricating system and the one working engine seized up.

At 02:30, Seal was spotted on the surface and attacked by two German Arado Ar 196s and another Heinkel. Lonsdale on the bridge, under fire, tried to fend them off with the Lewis guns, but these both jammed. With Seal under bombing and gunfire attack from the air, unable to dive and without motive power, some men wounded and no remaining defences, Lonsdale had no alternative but to surrender. The white messroom table-cloth was hoisted on the mast. Leutnant Schmidt brought his seaplane alongside and required the captain to swim to him. On his 35th birthday, Lonsdale swam to the seaplane, and shortly after, the chief petty officer swam to the other Arado. The crew waited on the submarine for the anti-submarine naval trawler UJ-128, to arrive at 06:30. It was expected that the boat, which was holed and listing, would sink of its own accord, but attempts were made to scuttle her. The German boarding party took the crew off, and the submarine was towed to Frederikshavn.

The mine belt laid by Seal sank one German freighter (Vogesen, 4241 BRT) and three Swedish ships between 5 May and 5 June for a total tonnage of nearly 7000 BRT.

In German service
Seal underwent temporary repairs at Frederikshavn to make her seaworthy, and was then towed to Kiel. Admiral Rolf Carls believed Seal was a war-winning asset and insisted that she be made operational, despite the probability that three superior new German U-boats could be built for the same cost. The equipment and armament were completely incompatible and it would not be possible to obtain spares. Nevertheless, repairs were undertaken and in the spring of 1941 she was commissioned into the Kriegsmarine as UB under the command of Fregattenkapitän Bruno Mahn. Mahn, at 52 years old, was the oldest German submarine commander on duty in World War II. She was used as a propaganda exhibit and training boat, but it took until late 1942 for Krupp to fabricate the whole mechanical system. Practice runs revealed so many snags and the financial costs were so unrealistic, that by the middle of 1943 she was paid off, stripped, and abandoned in a corner of Kiel dockyard. Later she was hit and sunk in the same Allied air raid that sank the Admiral Hipper. The significant value derived was the realisation that the British contact pistol torpedo detonator was of superior design and its introduction into the German navy.

On 3 May 1945, UB was scuttled in Heikendorf Bay (54.36667°N, 10.18333°W), the wreck was later broken up.

Crew
The crew were subjected to routine interrogation in an atmosphere of mutual respect with their German captors. The officers and ratings were separated and held as prisoners of war in a succession of camps until April 1945. The submarine had been adopted by the village of Seal when she was commissioned, and during their imprisonment the crew received considerable support from the villagers.

Two members of the crew managed to escape. Early on, the petty officers and ratings were held at Stalag XX A at Toruń in Poland. Petty Officer Barnes took part in a mass break out and with Sergeant Major George Briggs of the 15/19 Hussars managed to make contact with the Polish underground. They crossed the Soviet border, but the Soviet border guards separated them and told the British to run for it. Then the Soviet soldiers opened fire and shot Barnes dead. Briggs survived the shooting and was taken to the prison of Butyrka in Moscow.

One of the engineers, Don "Tubby" Lister, made a series of escapes and was eventually sent to Oflag IV-C at Colditz Castle. Realising how hard it would be to escape from there, he and another ERA (Engine Room Artificer), W. E. "Wally" Hammond (from the sunken submarine HMS Shark (54S)), insisted on being moved on the grounds that they were not officers. The ruse worked, and they were moved to a more open camp. They escaped from there in late 1942 and made the several hundred mile journey to Switzerland and then home.

Lieutenant Trevor Beet, the officer left on board by Lonsdale, made three failed escape attempts. He was transferred to Colditz Castle for the rest of the war.

Most of the officers and petty officers had been consolidated into Marlag (Marine-lager) naval camp near Westertimke, where, for most of the war, they led a fairly quiet existence. By April 1945, the Allies were at Bremen, 15 nmi away, and they were marched off to Lübeck. During the journey, the column came under attack from Allied Spitfires. Shortly after they arrived there, the war came to an end and they returned to Britain. Apart from Barnes and Able Seaman Smith, who had disappeared overboard when the submarine surfaced, the entire crew survived.

Lieutenant Commander Lonsdale was the only British captain to surrender his ship to the enemy in the entire war. He, with Lieutenant Trevor Beet, faced court-martial in 1946; they were honourably acquitted.

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Talk:Alatau

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A disambiguation page, all redlinks? --Wetman 05:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * be patient. Also, it is not a dab page. Also, what is wrong with red links being all or all links being red? mikka (t) 06:24, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Alatau and Alatau (disambiguation)
There are 2 disambiguation pages, Alatau and Alatau (disambiguation), with overlapping entries. Since this article has more information about the mountain ranges and an image, I made this into a set index article, and moved the non-mountain entries to Alatau (disambiguation). Leschnei (talk) 15:27, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Girvan Dempsey

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Sounds like soccer or something. --Wetman 05:57, 29 September 2005 (UTC) Someone edited out the last section despite it being true, ive fixed it, dont change it again, its true! adam It's rugby union.

If we could put an IP block on any IP addresses from the province of Munster, then your problems with this Wiki entry would be history.

The fanboy gushing needs to be toned down. Zoe (216.234.130.130 17:00, 20 December 2005 (UTC))

Zoe give it a rest. Nothing wrong with people idolising their heroes.

Its a bit unfair. They're like, totally extracting the urine out of Girvan.

A true champion

It's hardly neutral, get a clue.

A national hero in Ireland so idiolising is permitted. Sam Kekovich you know it makes sense

 * There is nothing wrong with people idolising heros. However we can't have gushing in wikipedia articles. Everything that is added has to be verifyable, which means that personal opionions (ggod or bad) can't go in. BTW please sign your comments with four tilds ~ Theresa Knott | Taste the Korn 13:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
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Uria Girvanae?
Good heavens, that's funny. -- comment by 82.156.212.49 on Oct 3, 2007.
 * This deliberate joke has been discussed at a prominent blog and on wikiEn-l. DGG (talk) 18:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. Unfortunately, however, that book is now presumably a reliable source. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 03:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * As it has been added a number of times, I've semi-protected the article for a while. DGG (talk) 19:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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Due to the sensitive nature of the topic, and the possibility of its growth in importance as homosexual rights deteriorate in Belarus, I have made every effort to reference sources where possible. The formatting for references may not be correct and may require fixing from someone experienced with that. Mr Curly 05:57, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Lukashenko's speech
This speech was not about homosexuality. Lukashenko was talking of people trafficking when taking of prostitution. Mail order bride websites for example. THe sexual perversion in question was implied to be pornography and a exploitation of Eastern European women by rich Western pornographers. Don't forget that it was Lukashenko who decriminalised homosexuality in the first place. I think that this speech is not applicable to this subject and, the implication of state homophobia is incorrect. This speech is certainly not credible as evidence.

Age of Consent
Needs to be some fact checking regarding the age of consent. The ILGA states "Sexual contacts for women in Belarus are conditionally considered legal in the age from 14 to 18. This is defined by court experts in sexual crime cases depending on the level of a girl’s sexual maturity. Sexual contacts for men are considered legal upon attaining majority only, or since 18." gaytimes.co.uk states something similar.

Whereas, http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm states 16 years for all m-f, m-m and f-f in their table.

Disco closure
ILGA states "In 1996 a gay discotheque named "Randez-vous" emerged in Minsk. Over the last years, the discotheque changed its premises four times, under the threat of persecution. The club was established by gays and lesbians aiming at AIDS prevention. The founders never approached the government claiming any official recognition. Club activists limited their activities to a free give-away of condoms in a narrow homosexual circle." is from

While this states "The country's only gay club, Oscar, was closed by the government in February 2000 because police said it "gathers abnormal people". However some mainstream clubs reportedly hold specific gay nights." is from

Are we to assume that Oscar (apparently being the "country's only gay club") and Randez-vous are the same thing?

Gay pride festival
It went ahead in 1999. In 2000 it encountered great difficulty as reflected in the article. 2004 it was banned. What of 2001, 02 and 03?

Mr Curly 05:57, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Pride.by
The page pride.by is used as a reference several times within this article. This page states that it was not possible to organise a LGBT conference in Minsk in 2006 due to the arrest of the organisators of this conference. This information can nowhere be counterchecked. Nevertheless, the groups gayrussia and gaybelarus were able to organise a conference in Minsk on September 26, 2009. It was also possible for EU citizens to participate in this conference as guests or delegates. - I was there myself. The conference itself was without incidents, also the banquest afterwards organised with the great support of the Swedish Embassy in Belarus. Rownosci (talk) 15:12, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Distinction between same-sex marriage being unrecognised or banned
There has been a series of reverts over whether same-sex marriage is banned or not. I agree with this change, in that for same-sex marriage to be described as "banned" in this article, there must be sources that state this explicitly. The description of a woman and a man shall have the right to enter into marriage is not a ban against same-sex marriage.

The distinction is that the current law could in the future be supplemented by recognizing same-sex couples have similar rights to heterosexual couples, without having to overturn current legislation. If anyone disagrees, I suggest they discuss their case and provide sources rather than attempting further reverts which may lead to the article being protected. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 12:11, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Would this be enough to prove that there is a constitutional ban there? Sdino (talk) 12:28, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately this is not a neutral source, nor an international one, but a USA lobbyist group (and to clarify, this is a worthwhile thing to do in my personal view). All there is on that site is a tiny summary, that for all we know may have been harvested from Wikipedia. If there is a "constitutional ban" rather than a failure to recognize same-sex couples for rights, then the constitution would explicitly ban same-sex marriage and it can be directly quoted as a source. Unless someone can provide the quote from the constitution that explicitly bans same sex marriage, saying there is a ban in this article fails the requirement that key assertions in our articles must be supported by reliable sources. --Fæ (talk) 12:50, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It is not a "failure to recognise same-sex couples for rights" because that is how all same-sex marriage bans are worded, because they ban same-sex marriage by limiting it to one between a man and a woman only. Please see all the other bans. Additionally, it is widely regarded that a constitutional definition of marriage is regarded as a same-sex marriage ban ( [[File:LGBT rights in the EU.svg]], LGBT rights in Croatia, , , and so on.) Sdino (talk) 15:29, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Reading Same-sex union legislation the text you have provided so far, does not fit with any of these descriptions. If Belarus has passed a constitutional amendment banning same-sex unions, please provide a link to it. Please note that a Wikipedia article is not a source. If you wish to ensure that on the English Wikipedia, all constitutions which fail explicitly to allow for same-sex marriage rights should be described as they "ban same-sex marriage", then I suggest a global RfC is the best process to follow. Legally and technically, this wording remains incorrect if not supported by reliable sources.
 * It would seem more logical to stick to the technically correct wording used on the map in the article, File:Same sex marriage map Europe detailed.svg. The map represents a considerable consensus of multiple authors and their chosen wording is "Constitution limits marriage to opposite-sex couples" for Belarus.
 * You have reverted this text 3 times within a week. This puts you against WP:3RR (the rule of thumb of 24 hours being flexible for contentious articles) and you may be reported for administrator action should you choose to continue to revert changes by others, rather than reaching a consensus through discussion.
 * I have flagged this page for more views at LGBT studies. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 16:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

 * It is heteronormative in its wording, but only in that it assumes heterosexual marriage in Article 32, which is clearly not about gay or straight marriage, but about equality of sexes and the right of both partners not to marry against their will. There are similar wordings in the Japanese Constitution or in the Constitution of the Falkland Islands, but nobody agree that these two regions constitutionally ban same-sex marriage. I will revert your edit. Jonathankwanhc (talk)

 * But, the Constitutions of many other countries has a similar wording and it is regared as a same-sex marriage ban:
 * Poland: Article 18: "Marriage, being a union of a man and a woman, as well as the family, motherhood and parenthood, shall be placed under the protection and care of the Republic of Poland."
 * Bulgaria: Article 46: "Matrimony shall be a free union between a man and a woman."
 * Latvia: 110. "The State shall protect and support marriage – a union between a man and a woman," ( Seen as a same-sex marriage ban - 6th paragraph down)
 * Hungary: Article K: "Hungary shall protect the institution of marriage, understood to be the conjugal union of a man and a woman" ( Seen as a same-sex marriage ban - introduction)
 * This reliable source also proves that Belarus has a same-sex marriage ban (pg.3 point 6 - "But ten nations have adopted constitutional bans on same-sex marriage.6 [...] 6. These countries are Belarus, Bulgaria, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Montenegro, Poland, Serbia, and Ukraine")

 * There is no need to use the other wording, as the source above proves that Belarus has a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage (pg.3 point 6). However, I will agree that, at least until we come to an agreement, the wording on the map should be used as a middleground between both sides to the discussion. Sdino (talk) 11:36, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Happy with the compromise. To avoid doubt with respect to sources, I have checked the paper at scholarship.law.berkeley.edu "Religiosity and Same-Sex Marriage in the United States and Europe" (2014) and the sources that it quotes for using the term "ban" are not credible, being the same source previously examined above ("MARRIAGE EQUALITY USA"), so is based on an extremely brief sentence used on a lobbyist USA organization website (itself unsourced and may have been harvested from Wikipedia), a campaign document by ILGA, another lobbyist organization, and Pink News, which is neither an academic nor unbiased source.
 * I will avoid naming the author here, however for a professor in a university law department, I am taken aback that he has given this paper his name without ensuring legally appropriate sources are used to support a dismissive description of a country's constitution. --Fæ (talk) 12:08, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * However, it is a reliable source (scholarship.law.berkeley.edu) and it proves my point of a ban on same-sex marriage in Belarus, therefore, it can be used in the article. Unless you can provide a reliable source that the Belarussian constitution just does not recognise same-sex marriage (rather than banning it or limiting marriage to that between a man and a woman), then I think that will be enough to add the wording into the article. Sdino (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * A source that relies on unreliable sources is not a reliable source, regardless of who the publisher is. I suggest sticking to the consensus statement or going the full hog and creating a wider RfC which can then address the wording for all the other articles you have been highlighting as problematic in their wording. --Fæ (talk) 12:38, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I actually suggest we bring this article in line with the consensus on the other articles where there are constitutional bans, because the wording in them is not problematic.
 * Identifying reliable sources: "reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective." – Even though Pink News is biased, it does actually provide the facts in the stories it reports on. A source does not need to be "academic" in order to be reliable.
 * The lobby groups also provide factual information, even though they might lead you to come to a certain conclusion and opinion. I don't think it is a problem to include that source. However, I do agree that the "MARRIAGE EQUALITY USA" source might be too short and harvested from Wikipedia, but there are other sources on that paper. Sdino (talk) 14:48, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure lobby groups can be useful, if they are publishing hard reliable facts that can be verified independently. For softer issues, such as the use of the word "ban" for a constitution that nowhere specifies that it has a ban, this is not suitable to include in an article unless explicitly spelt out that this is an opinion of a lobby group, or an example of a biased point of view.
 * Please take time to read Other stuff exists. Yes, some other articles have taken this same path of jumping to describing marriage being between a man and a woman as a "ban", however this is not evidence of a consensus. If you wish to create a consensus then please do so, and the best process for that in my experience is to create a request for comment. --Fæ (talk) 15:42, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have to say that that is all I have. There are no more reliable sources that state that Belarus has a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage. Therefore, I propose a compromise:
 * (Infobox) Change to: "Restrictions: Constitution limits marriage to opposite-sex couples"
 * Keep "Recognition of same-sex unions" as is at the moment
 * (Summary table) Change to:
 * {| class="wikitable"

 * Same-sex marriages
 * X mark.svg (Constitution limits marriage to opposite-sex couples since 1994)
 * }
 * But I also propose that the compromise/consensus only applies to this article, as every country has their bans worded differently and/or there are more reliable sources that would prove that there is a ban on same-sex marriage in that country. Sdino (talk) 12:25, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * But I also propose that the compromise/consensus only applies to this article, as every country has their bans worded differently and/or there are more reliable sources that would prove that there is a ban on same-sex marriage in that country. Sdino (talk) 12:25, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

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I, the Jury (1982 film)

I, the Jury is a 1982 American neo-noir crime thriller film based on the 1947 best-selling detective novel of the same name by Mickey Spillane. The story was previously filmed in 3D in 1953. Larry Cohen wrote the screenplay and was hired to direct, but was replaced when the film's budget was already out of control after one week of shooting. He was replaced at short notice by veteran TV director (and helmer of 1976's Futureworld) Richard T. Heffron.

Plot
Detective Jack Williams, who lost his left arm in the Tet Offensive, is shot dead in his apartment. His estranged friend, detective Mike Hammer (whose life Jack saved while losing his arm) is warned by police detective Pat Chambers to stay out of it but he nevertheless investigates the matter on his own. He speaks with Jack's widow Myrna, who says that they were attending a sex therapy clinic operated by the glamorous Dr. Charlotte Bennett. Hammer visits the clinic and finds a Government Issue bugging device in the doctor's office.

Hammer's secretary Velda identifies Jack's receipts for gasoline near Bear Mountain close to a summer camp run by Hammer's old friend Joe Butler. Mike and Velda visit Joe, who tells them of a military project in Saigon involving the use of drugs to turn prisoners of war into friendly spies and how Captain Romero developed a technique for mind control. Two cars of CIA agents pursue the three on a car chase that ends when Hammer throws a Molotov cocktail at one car, causing it to drive off a cliff into the water, and blocks the road with his vehicle then shoots the second car, causing it to explode.

The FBI trace the gun that killed Jack to special effects artist Harry Lundee, who had reported the gun stolen. Hammer visits him on set, where Lundee is shot in the back by a projectile knife fired by an unknown assassin and, in his dying breath, confesses that he laundered the gun to mobster Charlie Kalecki, but Kalecki is reluctant to speak with Hammer about any ties to Romero.

The CIA, wishing to distance itself from Romero's experiments, plants a series of clues in an attempt to lead Mike Hammer to Romero in order to have Hammer eliminate Romero for them. Chambers is instructed by the CIA to plant a photo of Romero in Jack's apartment as bait for Hammer and Romero gives Dr. Bennett a fake file about Jack's activities, which Hammer is upset to read during a visit to the Northridge Clinic. Hammer questions the sexual surrogate twins who worked with Jack, before observing Dr Bennett and her sex therapy team at work. While watching this session, Hammer hears the twins being attacked but is too late to prevent their deaths at the hands of a psychotic killer. In the wake of these extreme events, Hammer checks in on Dr Bennett at her practice and the two become lovers.

The twins' killer, Charles Kendricks, has been brainwashed by Romero, who sends him to abduct Velda. Romero's black ops squad capture Hammer, torture him and cover the badly-beaten Hammer with cheap liquor, intending to push him to his death in traffic. Hammer turns the tables on his captors, fights his way free and escapes. He races to Kendricks' apartment and stops him from killing Velda, then pursues Kendricks through the Manhattan streets and shoots him dead. Convinced that Kendricks was a puppet, Hammer confronts Detective Chambers. Chambers, again being secretly instructed by the CIA, tells Hammer that Kalecki supplied the gun that killed Jack and owned the apartment building where Kendricks lived.

Hammer captures Kalecki and forces him to drive back to the Northridge Clinic, where Romero has now set up a sequence of fortifications and death-traps. Hammer jumps out of the car before Romero sets off a mine, instantly killing Kalecki. Hammer kills all of Romero's goons commando-style then climbs over a wall and into the main building to confront Romero. After a brutal fight, Romero wrestles Hammer's gun from him but Hammer has plugged the barrel, so when Romero fires the gun it explodes in his face. Romero dies before Hammer can get the answers he wants about Jack's death. Searching Romero's office, Hammer finds Romero's black ops computer files.

Later, Hammer visits Dr Bennett at her home, bearing an expensively wrapped gift that turns out to be Jack's prosthetic arm. Hammer confronts her with the information he's uncovered: she was the intruder who murdered Jack Williams. Charlotte attempts to seduce Hammer and kill him with a hidden gun but he beats her to it while they embrace, shooting her in cold blood. With her dying breath, Dr. Bennett asks Hammer "How could you?" Using the famous closing line from Spillane's original novel, Hammer responds "It was easy."

Cast

 * Armand Assante as Mike Hammer
 * Barbara Carrera as Dr. Charlotte Bennett
 * Laurene Landon as Velda
 * Alan King as Charles Kalecki
 * Geoffrey Lewis as Joe Butler
 * Paul Sorvino as Detective Pat Chambers
 * Judson Scott as Kendricks
 * Barry Snider as Romero
 * Julia Barr as Norma Childs
 * Jessica James as Hilda Kendricks
 * Frederic Downs as Jack Williams
 * Mary Margaret Amato as Myrna Williams
 * F.J. O'Neil as Goodwin
 * William G. Schilling as Lundee
 * Robert Sevra as Breslin
 * Don Pike as Evans
 * Timothy Meyers as Blake
 * Leigh Harris as 1st Twin
 * Lynette Harris as 2nd Twin
 * Gwyn Gilliss as Receptionist (as Gwynn Gillis)
 * Mike Miller as Victor Kyle
 * Alex Stevens as 1st Cab Driver
 * Bobbie Burns as Sheila Kyle (as Bobbi Burns)
 * M. Sharon Madigan as Bonnie
 * Richard Russell Ramos as 2nd Cab Driver
 * Norman Blankenship as Kelsey
 * Daniel Faraldo as Danny
 * H. Richard Greene as Gentleman at Bar
 * Felicity Adler as Jogger
 * Jodi Douglas as Party Girl
 * Lee H. Doyle as Maitre D'
 * Cheryl Henry as Brunette
 * Michael Fiorello as Man in Revolving Door
 * Herb Peterson as Policeman
 * Richard Dahlia as Doctor at Clinic
 * Aaron Barsky as Guard at Gate
 * Ernest Harada as Chef
 * Larry Pine as Movie Director
 * Joe Farago as Assistant Director
 * Alan Dellay as Cameraman
 * Jack Davidson as Eric Clavel
 * Loring Pickering as Soap Opera Actor
 * Corrine Bohrer as Soap Opera Actress

Production
According to screenwriter Larry Cohen, he was originally hired to direct but was fired after expressing his concerns to cast or crew over the producers running out of money. Cohen immediately starting shooting Q - The Winged Serpent in Manhattan, filming concurrently with Richard T. Heffron's completion of I, the Jury. Cohen claimed that "we finished way ahead of them. They went way over budget and the company went bankrupt. They sold the picture at a bankruptcy sale."

Classification and censorship
For its US theatrical release in 1982, the MPAA requested minor cuts to a throat-slashing scene in order to qualify for an R rating.

In advance of its UK theatrical release that same year, on March 3, 1982, the BBFC classified the film as an X (its then-regular over-18 cinema category) after requiring some cuts that toned down the juxtaposition of sex and violence.

When the BBFC re-classified the film for UK home video release on November 11, 1986, using their new 18 category, a total of four minutes of cuts were required to achieve this rating (at that point in British history, the BBFC was very concerned about sexually violent and exploitative material being available at home via VHS cassette). Included in these video cuts were an extended conversation between Hammer and the sexual surrogate twins, orgy scenes at Dr. Bennett's clinic that intercut orgasm with the violent torture of the twins by Kendricks (a psychopathic killer with a cut-throat razor), cuts to a scene where a woman has her throat slit in a Chinese restaurant and the complete removal of Hammer's high-speed cab ride through Manhattan, which had been closely intercut with the sadistic knife torture of Velda by Kendricks.

Critical reaction
The film initially received mixed reviews - some reviewers felt that certain plot lines from the novel had been toned down in favor of nudity, violence and extended action scenes - and observed that Cohen's script contained 1980s-era sub-plots not present in the novel, such as government conspiracies, torture and mind-control techniques (deployed by both the CIA and the Mafia). Others felt that Cohen's CIA/Mafia back-story added a welcome sardonic quality in keeping with the spirit of Spillane and that graphic scenes of sex and gunplay were key to faithfully adapting the fevered narrative of the novel.

The New York Times' Jennifer Dunning enjoyed Assante's casting and found the pulp film highly entertaining:

"Along the way there are spectacular chases and ingenious gore, including a water bed that oozes blood. It all ends with Hammer storming a booby-trapped hideaway, alone and without a gun, then slithering through a last little fillip of bloody romance. I, the Jury only aims to entertain. And who cares, with Mr. Assante around?"

Roger Ebert praised the movie, Assante and Barbara Carrera - and was particularly impressed with Laurene Landon's performance as Velda:

"'I, the Jury' has a few touches all its own, however, and one of them is named Velda. She's Mike Hammer's private secretary, and she is played by Laurene Landon, the tall blonde who was one of the wrestlers in Robert Aldrich's 'All the Marbles.' She is absolutely, breathtakingly, beautiful. And she has a light comic manner, a way about her, that's really fetching. She's in love with Hammer, but he doesn't give her the time of day. Still, she stays in good cheer, and so do we."

In the decades since its release, Cohen and Heffron's movie has come to be celebrated by the vast majority of Spillane fans, including Spillane's biographer/co-author Max Allan Collins, as an underrated pulp fiction/grindhouse classic, the most faithful screen adaptation of the tone and spirit of Spillane's fevered prose and one of two great Mike Hammer movie adaptations, the other being Robert Aldrich's widely-lauded, apocalyptic 1955 Spillane deconstruction Kiss Me Deadly starring Ralph Meeker.

Writing in his 2012 book, "Mickey Spillane on Screen" (co-authored with James L. Traylor), Collins stated:

Assante's performance has a psychotic edge that makes his Hammer, updated or not, the definitive screen portrayal to date of the young Mike Hammer. Somewhere in there with the Brando and Stallone bits is a sense of the Mick himself: Assante has watched Spillane, obviously, and has the bantam walk down pat – as with Biff Elliot and Spillane, Assante confirms that a small, broad-chested Hammer has a bulldog rather than bully quality needed for character empathy in the page-to-screen transfer of the brawling hero. The Assante Hammer is outraged; he's prepared to risk anything for his goal, because his Hammer simply does not give a damn; if he dies in the course of his quest, so be it – "You take life too serious," he advises several terrified unwilling participants in his various war games. Another time he tells Charlotte that he "may take a few suspects out along the way – I'm not perfect." Dat's Mike Hammer, '80s style.

Home media
The film was released uncut on DVD-R in the USA on March 17, 2015 by 20th Century Fox as part of their Cinema Archives collection. It was also released uncut in an upgraded special edition Blu-ray in the USA on November 8, 2016 by Kino Lorber, with a commentary track by film historian Nathaniel Thompson and Cohen biographer/filmmaker/documentarian Steve Mitchell

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Dzungarian Alatau

The Dzungarian Alatau (Зүүнгарын Алатау, Züüngaryn Alatau; ; Жетісу Алатауы, Jetısu Alatauy; Джунгарский Алатау, Dzhungarskiy Alatau) is a mountain range that lies on the boundary of the Dzungaria region of China and the Zhetysu region of Kazakhstan. It has a length of 450 km and a maximum elevation of 4464 m.

Features
The Dzhungarian Alatau consists of foothills, ridges, forts, and alpine meadows of the Northern Tian Shan (Trans-Ili Alatau, Ktmen). It is located at an altitude of 2,000m above sea level, and is over 400km long in the latitudinal direction. The Dzhungraian Alatau consists of two ranges that are distinctly parallel to each other: the northern (or main), and the southern range.

The area includes several sub-parallel high mountain ranges, accompanied by low and short ranges and their spurs. It also holds the largest waterfall in Central Asia.

A distinctive feature of the Dzunguarain Alatau is a series of sharp slopes. These are divided into low mountains (700–1600 m), medium lands (1600–3100 m) and highlands (3100–4662 m). There are numerous locations of petroglyphs mainly situated in the low- and mid-hills. The highest peak of the range is Semeonov Tien-Shansky (4622 m).

The area is mostly unexplored. 33 species from the polymorphic genus Allium L. have been found in the area. They belong to the subgenera Rhizirideum, Allium and Melanocrommyum, and are distributed from the foothills to alpine belts. The Semirechensk Salamander (Ranodon sibiricus) is endemic to these mountains. It lives in streams and has highly reduced lungs. Due to its small population and extremely small distribution it is considered endangered. This salamander is threatened by poaching for medical purposes or the pet trade, over grazing, and harmful fishing practices.

Tourism
There are two resorts that operate in the area. They are called Tekesu and Tau Zhetisu. Tekeli can be accessed via public transport from Almaty's main bus station to Taldykurgan. From Taldykurgan, marshrutkas are available to reach Tekeli.

The area is often visited by climbers for alpine-style climbing. The area currently consists of approximately 4600 meters on relatively unexplored mountains. At the eastern end of the chain, near the China–Kazakhstan border, lies the Dzungarian Gate, a pass which for centuries was used as an invasion route by conquerors from Central Asia.

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User talk:SaxTeacher

Greetings
Hello SaxTeacher, Thanks for your amendment to Saxophone. I wonder if you would care to take a look at Big Band to see if Ive got all my facts straight on saxes?--Light current 01:54, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Saxophone article and Eugene Rousseau (saxophonist)
Hello SaxTeacher. Thanks from France for your edits. That's a good surprise and an enjoyment to see your interest for the saxophone. For Eugene Rousseau, I gave the right title of his book ("Marcel Mule : sa vie et le saxophone". As you know, I suppose, it was a american book but written and published in french language. I gave too the other book about this master (so essential, as you know too, for saxophonists and music lovers). I think the page is quite serious, with good informations. Best regards. -- User XXXXX 131

Saxophone embouchure
Hello SaxTeacher. The world needs more like you. May you spread the word of Saxophone across the nations of the world!

Anyway, I've just added a paragraph to the "embouchure" section of the saxophone article on the effects of an embouchure in which the pressure is applied primarily with the lower teeth, as opposed to the chin muscles. I wrote this based on information in Larry Teal's "Art of Saxophone Playing," as well as my own experience on the alto. After seven years of playing, I'm still nursing a sizeable callus.

I was just hoping that you could check the paragraph for completion and accuracy, as you are in fact an actual bona fide saxophone teacher. Thanks. --Mixolydian 5.25.06

Carillons
I'm afraid we were editing the article at the same time. I assume most of your edits came into place, except your major input: The description of 'similar instruments' fits mostly into the already existing article Campanology; you might like to take your latest edits from Carillon's history, and incorporate some of it in either Campanology or Carillon (as far as still needed). See also the newly introduced definition references in Carillon (largely borrowed from the talk page). The List of carillons still needs some clear reference to the definition, I think that list should be split in a chapter for traditional carillons, and one for other true carillons. -- SomeHuman 2006-07-04 18:50 (UTC)

Lebensborn
Please keep in mind that sometimes vandals flock and stack. You better watch out for both anon IPs and redlinked user names in article history. Your well-meaning edit masked a previous hoax. `'mikkanarxi 02:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your comment but I don't understand the terms you are using. I am interested to learn what "flocking and stacking" means, and how an edit I made could have "masked" a hoax, so that I can better understand these things and how to recognize them/avoid them. Could you leave me a note (either here or on my talk page) explaining these terms? Thank you. —SaxTeacher 15:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry for abuse of language.
 * If you see a really suspicious edit (nonsense, corrupted text, obviously wrong format), as opposed to, e.g., typos or bad grammar, before editing please look into the article history and see who was editing. If the last editor was an anonymous IP address, like,  71.146.69.139, or whose user name is a  red link (meaning a new account most probably), then chances are very high that it was a vandal or a well-meaning but an inexperienced user, and you better check all his edits by looking at the article revision difference, because the vandal can corrupt the text in several places. He may also move a big chunk of text from one place to another, so that the text seems OK, the problem being the lost logic of the description flow.

 * "Flocking": I wanted to say that some articles may be vandalized by several vandals. This happens to two categories of articles: very visible ones, like George W. Bush or, just the opposite, some obscure topics which are edited rarely and vandalisms may sit unnoticed for long time.

 * "Stacking": if you look into an artice revision history, the history entries are listed in vertical order, one atop another, i.e., "stacked", "piled".

 * Therefore it is always advised to check not only the last edit in the history but all topmost "stack" of edits with suspicious user names.

 * "Masking": people monitor changes in articles using watchlists. When a watchlist is very long, like mine, I check edits by all users only for articles in topics I am especially interested. All other articles are monitored by me only for vandalism. So if these articles are edited by an established user, I believe that the edit is most probably OK. Here again, it is a common sense to assume if the user name is not red, then the person bothered to write something in his user page, i.e., he is not a novice. And I also assume (possibly erroneousy) that the user before adding his edits checked whether the previous edit was not vandalism. In other words, red user names are "red flags" raised telling us to check the most recent edits more carefully. And if you put your name above theirs in the edit history, you hide this red flag from us.

 * Please let me know what else left unexplained. `'mikka 19:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Reeds section of Saxophone article
Thanks for adding to this article. However due to the length of the article, and the varied opinions of different players around the world, we need to leave out information about which player uses which reed, or what you think the "standard" reed strength should be. I removed this and put the great link you supplied (mouthpieceheaven.com's page of the set-ups of famous players) to the "external links" section at the bottom of the article. —SaxTeacher 18:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I am concerned that the section on reeds is incomplete, inaccurate, opinionated and is potentially damaging to students' and players' development.
 * You should not have removed all the updates I made to the section on Reeds, saying that it was inappropriate to mention 'who plays what reeds' whereas you have left in an unsubstantiated opinion of yours implying it is a good thing 'to progress to numbef 5 reeds' which is very bad advice.
 * The players I mention: Bob Berg, Iain Ballamy and Mark Lockheart are all well-known jazz players with exemplary sax sounds who either studied at or teach at recognized acadamies: Julliard and The Royal Academy respectively. Since I know what reeds these players use and that Joe Henderson, Johnny Griffin, Sonny Rollins all used Med-Soft or Med reeds respectively these facts should not be left out and should replace the unsubstantiated and damaging comment currently in the article about No 5 reeds.
 * Perhaps you would be kind enough to write to me to explain what is your motive for having taken this action - which, as you can see has quite annoyed me.
 * Is there any sense in which you 'own' the information in the Saxophones entry? Trismegister 23:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry if you were annoyed, but as I explained above, your additions to the article did not seem to be appropriate for inclusion in an encyclopedia. I don't have any more ownership of the saxophone article than you do, but I check additions to articles for content, and if they appear to be material that doesn't merit inclusion, I remove them.
 * I explained in my comments on this topic (on the saxophone talk page) that a discussion of which player uses what type of reed doesn't belong in the saxophone article. It belongs on your personal web page, or blog, or a forum about saxophone players, of which there are many on various web sites. The article is about the instrument itself, not about specific players or your opinion on the optimal reed strength. Thanks again for contributing the link to mouthpiece heaven's page of "famous player setups." I referenced it in the links section at the bottom of the article. We can continue this discussion on the saxophone talk page —SaxTeacher 16:43, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Admin coaching, etc.
Are you ready to get started?

The waiting time over at Admin coaching is long (some people have been waiting in line since July). I'm an admin coach with the project, and for my students I set up a group discussion page so that we could all learn from each other. The scope of this concept has expanded into the Virtual classroom, which is an open forum for the teaching and learning of advanced Wikipedia skills.

Anyone and everyone is welcome to participate, as a student, as a coach, or both. Every week or two a new major topic of discussion or classroom assignment is introduced, usually with a guest writer who presents his or her expertise on the current subject and who remains on hand to answer questions. Everyone is encouraged to participate in the discussions, such as sharing your expertise, asking and answering questions, etc.

The current topic of discussion is vandalism, and our guest writer is Budgiekiller.

All discussions are open-ended, so all previous discussion topics and classroom assignments are still there for viewing and further participation. There are also sections for posting miscellaneous topics and questions, requesting coaching assistance, etc.

In addition to inviting those who would like to learn, I routinely invite experts from all over Wikipedia to come and contribute for the benefit of all. The VC is rapidly turning into a clearing house of the best resources, methods, and techniques known for working on Wikipedia.

You are cordially invited to participate. Here's an announcement box which you can place on your userpage or at the top of your talk page for keeping up to date with classroom assignments.

I hope to see you there. Sincerely,   Th e Tr ans hu man ist    08:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Admin coaching
Hi Sax Teacher. Was wondering if you're still interested in admin coaching. My student just became an admin, so I'm open. Let me know, Fang Aili talk 16:10, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

AWB suggestion
I took a look at your recent contributions using AutoWikiBrowser. Some of them were just insignificant minor edits such as only adding or removing some white space with edit summary "Typo fixing". You can avoid this by using "Skip article when no typo fixed" option. As for your questions about regular expressions at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser I thought that some examples may be helpful. Happy editing :-) Jogers (talk) 15:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, when making a list of articles to work on you can use "Filter out non mainspace" option in the "List" menu to avoid comments like the one above in the future. Regards, Jogers (talk) 15:39, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Hello, sorry to chime in on this one too but this edit which claimed to be typo fixing in the edit summary was actually wikilink adding (which is fine), but it was also adding an asterisk to the field names in the album infobox which, as a consequence, mucked up the formatting somewhat. Just something to look out for in future. Sorry to bring it up, but it may help in future. :) Bubba hotep 20:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. That was me not realizing that " * " is treated as a wildcard instead of a text character. I realized the problem earlier today and fixed it. I have redone the edit, correctly this time. —SaxTeacher (talk)  20:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, not a problem. At least you're using AWB. I've had it for a month now and haven't got round to doing anything useful (other than making lists) yet! Bubba hotep 20:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Clarinet
Thank you for noting the vandalism to the article and reverting it. However, the user had made two separate bad edits, and you reverted only the second one. I think this is known as "flocking and stacking"... when you go to revert, take care to be sure you are reverting back to the last unvandalized version. Best, —SaxTeacher (talk)  04:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's what I get for trying to work fast I guess :) Thank you for noticing and fixing my mistake. theroachmanTC 04:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Decade links
Hi, if you're going to be wikilinking decades, you might as well direct those wikilinks toward music-specific decade articles, such as Timeline of trends in music (1930-1939). Badagnani 01:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I haven't been able to figure out how to use AWB to change the decade links to music-specific decade links in music articles only. I will see if I can find a way. It would help if the names of the music-specific decade articles weren't so incredibly long (tedious to type). Thanks —SaxTeacher 05:20, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

 * OK, I don't know either. Of course, if the phrase regarding the decade doesn't refer to a musical thing, then you wouldn't necessarily want to link to the musical decade link.  But if they're sax-related articles, I'd say probably most of them would be.  Badagnani 05:32, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

 * You could probably use CONTROL-C and CONTROL-V to copy and paste those long article titles, to save time. Badagnani 05:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Glider markings
My glider registration is in half-inch high letters on the fin just below the tailplane and complies with British requirements. JMcC 16:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Did you update the article to provide more accurate information? or should I? —SaxTeacher 16:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You modification is fine. I originally deleted it because it seemed hard to make a generalised statement. JMcC 22:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Egrabczewski
Your contributions to Saxophone

Hello - thanks for contributing to the saxophone article. Please note the following though. Again, welcome - appreciate your contributions! —SaxTeacher (talk)  22:58, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) This is an encyclopedia. It is not the right place for you to insert your opinions on what type of mouthpiece or facing is good for what type of music. Players have widely differing opinions about this sort of thing - and also, what you're writing is your opinion, not a reference-worthy fact. You need to be able to substantiate anything you add.
 * 2) If you have dozens of edits to make to the article, that's fine, but please make all your edits at once rather than making dozens of separate saves. I know you are new to Wikipedia but try to make as many edits at a time as you can - hopefully not saving an article more than once or twice a day.
 * 3) It is really important to use the edit summary box each time you save, explaining what you did. In fact, if you go into "my preferences" at the very top of the screen, you can set a preference so that you will be reminded any time you try to save without providing an edit summary. I would suggest this.
 * Hi SaxTeacher
 * Thanks for your comments. I'm not unaware of the points you raise and I understand your point about "opinions". I do my best not to insert my own viewpoint, and try to stick to published material.
 * As for putting all my changes into the article in one go - yes, that would be bliss. But, alas, not the way I work. I'm always finding errors. Ever written an academic paper? It's a lot like that for me. Thanks -Egrabczewski 07:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Concerns about Saxophone embouchure article
SaxTeacher, Please see my comments at Talk:Saxophone. I would like to hear your response to my concerns. -JTalcott 04:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know about this article. I had a look at it and responded at the Talk:Saxophone embouchure pages. I also made some edits to try and improve the article.
 * While it is certainly a good idea to discuss the article with other editors, keep in mind that the person who added the most material is not its "author" and doesn't "own" the article, so you can go ahead and make edits/corrections to articles concurrent with your discussion on the talk pages. Best —SaxTeacher (talk)  09:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Egrabczowski response
SaxTeacher, remove your offensive remark from the Saxophone Embouchure talk page at once. -Egrabczewski 18:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Please relax, be cordial, and assume good faith in your fellow editors. It is the responsibility of any Wikipedia editor to be bold in deleting material that is questionable or non-encyclopedic. Recall the sentence that appears at the bottom of every edit screen: "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it." Please don't take edits personally; your contributions are appreciated. Best —SaxTeacher (talk)  20:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * (Remainder of conversation moved to User talk:Egrabczewski)

Leonard Bernstein
your edits were quite good. my apologies for reverting the text changes you made...i didn't see them until now. but you inadvertently broke the template's date rendering by placing brackets on the dates within the citation. check out WP:CITET for more information on those templates. --emerson7 | Talk 00:35, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your aircraft q's
I hope I've answered your question well enough at WikiProject Aircraft/FAQ. I hope you don't mind but I've reworked the page as a Q and A, in case people have the same questions in the future. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 00:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Kitikmeot Region, Nunavut
I've restored this for now while we discuss it. It will be good to get an alternate viewpoint as what I thought was a good idea might not be. If you look at Nunavut you see we have 3 regions. The Nunavut territorial government has their own names for the regions. The Canadian government has different (older) names for the same regions which they use as census divisions. At the time I made the three census regions I thought it was a good idea to help explain the differences. Now I am having second thoughts. Next month the government will release certain 2006 census data and may change to using the Nunvaut names for the census regions. Even if they don't I am starting to think that the 3 census regions, Baffin Region, Nunavut and Keewatin Region, Nunavut might be better merged into the current names as used by the Nunavut government. Let me know. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
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Revert
Hi. I reverted this edit of yours. Disambig pages are special. See the Manual of Style for info on how they are formatted. In particular, links on these special pages are not generally piped. That means that if you don't like the name of the article Laser (dinghy), you have to follow the procedure to get it renamed. You can't just pipe the link on the dab page. Actually, if the article name is not appropriate, it should be renamed anyway.--Srleffler 02:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Got it, thanks. Tried again - SaxTeacher

 * Yep, you got it right second time, that's a good example of a dab page entry :) Fourohfour 13:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hello
Hi SaxTeacher, how's it going? I've been pretty non-active on the wiki lately, but I wanted to check in with my coachees/adoptees. Have any questions/concerns/coaching aspirations? Feel free to email me if you like. Cheers and happy weekend, Fang Aili talk 20:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

List of notable glider pilots
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RfD nomination of RC Patrol
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Yankee Doodle Coffee Shop
Hi. I have recently started the article Yankee Doodle Coffee Shop. Since you are listed in the category Yale Alumni, I thought you might be interesting in contributing to the article. Thanks. Yilloslime (t) 22:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

AGI and instrument instruction
It's my reading that the holder of an AGI can give instrument instruction; I can offer you two references. 61.215(b) says, in part, "A person who holds an advanced ground instructor rating is authorized to provide:  (1) Ground training in the aeronautical knowledge areas required for the issuance of any certificate or rating under this part" (emphasis added). FAA's FAR site

FAA Order 8900.1 (which I've just recently learned has replaced 8700.1, as well as 8300.10 and 8400.10) says in paragraph 5-674, "A person who qualifies for the advanced ground instructor (AGI) rating must receive the advanced rating on his or her ground instructor certificate. A person who holds a ground instructor certificate with the advanced rating is authorized to provide: · Ground training in the aeronautical knowledge areas required for the issuance of any certificate or rating under § 61.215." FSIMS, Order 8900.1 (Sadly, the order doesn't support deep-linking, so to get to the important paragraph, you've got to click through "Airman Certification," and then "Part 61: Issue a Title 14 CFR Part 61 Ground Instructor Certificate and Added Ratings.")

Of course, with anything regulation-related, the only opinions that ultimately matter come from the FAA’s Office of Chief Counsel. Anyway, best wishes and blue skies. —SkipperPilot (talk) 02:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Wilderness Diarrhea Getting Killed
Sax:

 * Dunno, but it seems remotely possible you'd be interested in this. Wilderness Diarrhea is getting merged into Travelers Diarrhea by a couple of zealots who seem to have no concept of outdoor interests.

I get around a lot in the outdoors and rarely treat water, but WD article had some good stuff.

 * After a couple of weeks of calm discussion, I went ballistic and no longer want to participate. Rational voices might help.

These guys have irrationally convinced themselves that WD isn't a legitimate topic for a Wikipedia article.

 * I've pointed out several bomb-proof arguements to no avail. I'd say the strongest is the vast number of published articles that discuss WD as a separate concern from TD. They are both environmental health topics, and obviously the context of each are far different.

 * They simply ignore all this.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Calamitybrook (talk • contribs) 11:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

WAD
Thanks for renaming article. I completely agree with you. I switched it because people were saying "Wilderness Diarrhea" is a neologism and thus that the article ought to be deleted completely. Some weird stuff going was, or is, going on over there. Say hi to Stamford for me, my old hometown.

Calamitybrook (talk) 22:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

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Aspartame school project
I agree with Novangelis that the article talk isn't the right place for this discussion, so I'll answer your question here instead. As a sixth grade school project this was probably very impressive, but it doesn't tell us anything new, and it's inaccurate in some places. I'm not going to comment on the “aspartame is known to cause ...” premise the project seems to have - a lot of adults don't understand that correlation doesn't imply causation, so an eleven year old can certainly be forgiven for that. A big mistake I noticed is that it says the methanol in aspartame can break down into diketopiperazine and formaldehyde. That's not true. At higher temperatures, some of the aspartame will break down into a diketopiperazine (3-Carboxymethyl-6-benzyl-2,5-diketopiperazine) and methanol (which can then break down to formaldehyde and hydrogen), but given that there's very little aspartame in the drink to begin with, the amount of breakdown products is minute. It's the dose that makes the poison, which is why the mere presence of a toxical substances doesn't allow you to decide if something is safe to consume. In order draw a valid conclusion, the pupil would have had to compare the amounts of DKP and methanol that were found in her samples with safety data (which is what agencies like the FDA do when deciding on approving food additives). Again, it's a school project, so it's understandable that she didn't discuss acceptable intake levels, but it means that no conclusions can be drawn based on that report. As you asked for a reference, I thought this might be a good read: earlier this year, the UK's Committee on Toxicity issued a statement on the effects of chronic dietary methanol exposure: lay summary, full statement. Hope that helps. --Six words (talk) 23:53, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Aspartame controversy
I saw your post at the aspartame controversy. Near the end of a page I put up there are 3 links under "pilots and flying "  You may find them interesting. The page is:

http://www.aspartametestimonials.com

I tried to correct the aspartame controversy article on wikipedia and got topic banned for 3 months. Bottom line is Washington bureaucrats refer to wikipedia and what is presented there must not make waves.

Al — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arydberg (talk • contribs) 14:41, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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Photo requests in Connecticut
Hi! Do you do photo requests in Connecticut? Are you close to Milford or Greenwich? WhisperToMe (talk) 04:52, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I have never heard of a Photo Request before, but I'd be happy to help if I could. I am near Greenwich. I am about 45 minutes from Milford but I do pass through there every week or two. —SaxTeacher (talk)  18:31, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

A photo request is where a Wikipedian asks someone to take a picture and upload it to the Commons so it may be used in a Wikipedia article. Please let me know if you want to do these requests and/or when you get the photos. Thank you!
 * In Greenwich there is the Japanese School of New York at 270 Lake Avenue, Greenwich, CT. 06831 (official address is 15 The Ridgeway). I would like to have a photo of the main entrance sign and if possible/permitted, the school building. These photos would help improve coverage of Japanese life in the New York City area and the United States
 * In Milford there is the headquarters of Subway Sandwiches - 325 Bic Drive, Milford, CT 06461 - Map - Both the entrance sign and the building

If you are close to Rye, Purchase, Mamaroneck, Scarsdale, etc. in Westchester County, New York I can add requests from those cities too if it's ok WhisperToMe (talk) 03:06, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Precious
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Three years ago, you were recipient no. 1521 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:20, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Ways to improve Standards & Ballads
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When the Kite String Pops

When the Kite String Pops is the debut studio album of American sludge metal band Acid Bath. Released on August 8, 1994, it is considered an underground classic and an early example of sludge metal. The album's artwork is a self-portrait made by notorious serial killer John Wayne Gacy while in prison awaiting execution.

Cover art
The album's cover art is a painting by John Wayne Gacy named "Skull Clown" in which he depicts himself as his clown alter-ego, "Pogo the Clown". The balloons on the lower part contain both his nickname and his real name, J. W. Gacy.

The use of artwork by a convicted serial killer caused controversy, with Rotten Records president Ron Peterson defending the decision by saying, "It's America—you should be able to do what you want". Acid Bath's follow-up album, Paegan Terrorism Tactics, continued the provocative streak by using artwork created by euthanasia proponent Jack Kevorkian.

Themes
On the Double Live Bootleg! DVD (2002), vocalist Dax Riggs introduced the song "Tranquilized" by saying, "This song is about getting high any way you do it, and kicking the earth from beneath you" and "Cheap Vodka" by saying, "This song is about getting wasted and killing things, blood, sex, and blasphemy." "Toubabo Koomi" is Cajun French for "land of the white cannibals." It was the only Acid Bath song that was made into a music video. According to guitarist Sammy Duet, the alligator which appeared in the video ended up biting someone's face. The song "God Machine" begins with a spoken word introduction by Riggs.

Reception
In 1999, sales of the album were just over 37,000 copies in the US, which is higher than average for a band with no publicity and released exclusively on an independent label.

Track listing
All songs written and composed by Acid Bath.

 * Track 10 contains samples from an episode of The Jerry Springer Show. Track 14 contains samples from the 1971 Stanley Kubrick film A Clockwork Orange, as well as the 1986 David Lynch film Blue Velvet.

Music videos

 * "Toubabo Koomi"

Acid Bath

 * Dax Riggs – lead vocals
 * Mike Sanchez – guitar
 * Sammy "Pierre" Duet – backing vocals, guitar
 * Audie Pitre – backing vocals, bass
 * Jimmy Kyle – drums, percussion

Production

 * Acid Bath – production
 * Spike Cassidy – production, engineer, mixer, mastering
 * Greg Troyner – production, engineer, mixer
 * Eddie Schreyer – mastering
 * Mike Wasco – photography

title: When the Kite String Pops


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Law & Order season 16

The 16th season of Law & Order premiered on NBC on September 21, 2005, and concluded on May 17, 2006. This is the second season that remained unchanged from the 15th season, where Elisabeth Rohm departed the series as Serena Southerlyn departs from the series after the episode "Ain't No Love", although Annie Parisse as Alexandra Borgia joins the semi regular, starting with "Fluency".

Cast and crew changes
Jesse L. Martin returned to his role of Detective Ed Green in the season premiere episode; he left at the end of the last season to act in the movie Rent. Mid-season, Law & Order's future on NBC was in the air, unknown if the show would be renewed or canceled after this season. Prior to the end of the season, Annie Parisse – who portrayed ADA Borgia – quit the series, wanting out of her contract. A show insider said to Fox News, "She saw the writing on the wall, they never treated her very well. They were always complaining about her hair. And they also thought she looked too young next to Sam Waterson (sic)." Parisse's ADA Alex Borgia was brutally killed off in the season finale episode "Invaders."

It was announced that Dennis Farina (Detective Joe Fontana) wished to depart the cast weeks after the previous season finale episode aired. At the time Farina wished to pursue other offers and projects being developed by his production company. Dick Wolf said in a statement that he respected Farina's decision and looked forward to working with him again.

There were "a lot" of firings, including a portion of the camera crew. "None of the original writer-producers are there anymore," a source said to Fox News. "They've all been replaced by people from L.A. who don't get the show." Walon Green was show runner/executive producer this season with Nicholas Wootton, over Matthew Penn, and Peter Jankowski. Green stepped down as show runner/EP at the end of the season and Wootton took over in the 17th season.

Main

 * Dennis Farina as Senior Detective Joe Fontana
 * Jesse L. Martin as Junior Detective Ed Green
 * S. Epatha Merkerson as Lieutenant Anita Van Buren
 * Sam Waterston as Executive Assistant District Attorney Jack McCoy
 * Annie Parisse as Assistant District Attorney Alexandra Borgia
 * Fred Dalton Thompson as District Attorney Arthur Branch

Recurring

 * Michael Imperioli as Detective Nick Falco
 * Richard Brooks as Defense Attorney Paul Robinette
 * Carolyn McCormick as Dr. Elizabeth Olivet

Departure of Dennis Farina, Michael Imperioli, and Annie Parisse
Dennis Farina and Annie Parisse, who played Joe Fontana and Alexandra Borgia, respectively, left the series at the end of the 16th season. Michael Imperioli, who played Nick Falco, made a guest appearance (his last in the franchise) in the episode "Hindsight."

title: Law & Order season 16