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Interleukin 8

Interleukin 8 (IL-8 or chemokine (C-X-C motif) ligand 8, CXCL8) is a chemokine produced by macrophages and other cell types such as epithelial cells, airway smooth muscle cells and endothelial cells. Endothelial cells store IL-8 in their storage vesicles, the Weibel–Palade bodies. In humans, the interleukin-8 protein is encoded by the CXCL8 gene. IL-8 is initially produced as a precursor peptide of 99 amino acids which then undergoes cleavage to create several active IL-8 isoforms. In culture, a 72 amino acid peptide is the major form secreted by macrophages.

There are many receptors on the surface membrane capable of binding IL-8; the most frequently studied types are the G protein-coupled serpentine receptors CXCR1 and CXCR2. Expression and affinity for IL-8 differs between the two receptors (CXCR1 > CXCR2). Through a chain of biochemical reactions, IL-8 is secreted and is an important mediator of the immune reaction in the innate immune system response.

Function
IL-8, also known as neutrophil chemotactic factor, has two primary functions. It induces chemotaxis in target cells, primarily neutrophils but also other granulocytes, causing them to migrate toward the site of infection. IL-8 also stimulates phagocytosis once they have arrived. IL-8 is also known to be a potent promoter of angiogenesis. In target cells, IL-8 induces a series of physiological responses required for migration and phagocytosis, such as increases in intracellular Ca2+, exocytosis (e.g. histamine release), and the respiratory burst.

IL-8 can be secreted by any cells with toll-like receptors that are involved in the innate immune response and has been demonstrated to be a signatory chemokine of CR2+ naive T cells, also known as recent thymic emigrants. Usually, it is the macrophages that see an antigen first, and thus are the first cells to release IL-8 to recruit other cells. Both monomer and homodimer forms of IL-8 have been reported to be potent inducers of the chemokine receptors CXCR1 and CXCR2. The homodimer is more potent, but methylation of Leu25 can block the activity of homodimers. IL-8 is a member of the CXC chemokine family. The genes encoding this and the other ten members of the CXC chemokine family form a cluster in a region mapped to chromosome 4q.

IL-8 is believed to play a role in the pathogenesis of bronchiolitis, a common respiratory tract disease caused by viral infection.

Another key function of the cell signalling stimulated by IL-8, is the initiation of the oxidative burst. This process allows the build up of proteolytic enzymes and reactive oxygen species (ROS) which are necessary to break down the ECM and basement membrane. These are released in secretory granules, along with more integrins. The release of ROS and damaging enzymes is regulated to minimise host damage, but continues to reach site of infection at which it will carry out its effector functions.

IL-8 mediated chemotaxis of the neutrophil
IL-8 is the primary cytokine involved in the recruitment of neutrophils to the site of damage or infection; in a process called chemotaxis. A number of variables are essential for the successful chemotaxis of neutrophils, including the increased expression of high affinity adhesion molecules to secure the neutrophil to the endothelium near the affected site (and is therefore not washed away into the circulatory system), and that the neutrophil can digest its way through the basement membrane and the extracellular matrix (ECM) to reach affected site. IL-8 plays a key role in inducing the cell signalling necessary to bring about these changes.

Firstly, at the site of infection histamine release causes vasodilation of the capillaries near the injured area which slows down the blood flow in the region and encourages leukocytes, such as neutrophils, to come closer to the endothelium, and away from the centre of the lumen where the rate of blood flow is highest. Once this occurs weak interactions are made between the selectins expressed on the neutrophil and endothelial cells (expression of which is also increased through the action of IL-8 and other cytokines). On the neutrophil these are: L selectins, and on the endothelial cell: P and E selectins. This causes the "rolling" phase of chemotaxis.

Once the neutrophil is rolling along the endothelium, it will come into contact with a IL-8 molecule expressed on the surface which stimulates the cell signalling pathway, mediated through a G-coupled-protein-receptor. The binding of IL-8 to CXCR1/2 on the neutrophil stimulates the neutrophils to upregulate their expression of the integrin,LFA-1 (Lymphocyte function-associated antigen 1), which takes part in high affinity bonding with ICAM-1(Intercellular Adhesion Molecule 1) receptors expressed on the endothelium. The expression and affinity of LFA-1 is significantly increased to maximise binding. This causes the neutrophil to slow down more until it is stationary.

Target cells
While neutrophil granulocytes are the primary target cells of IL-8, there are a relatively wide range of cells (endothelial cells, macrophages, mast cells, and keratinocytes) that respond to this chemokine. The chemoattractant activity of IL-8 in similar concentrations to vertebrates was proven in Tetrahymena pyriformis, which suggests a phylogenetically well-conserved structure and function for this chemokine.

Clinical significance
Interleukin-8 is a key mediator associated with inflammation where it plays a key role in neutrophil recruitment and neutrophil degranulation. As an example, it has been cited as a proinflammatory mediator in gingivitis and psoriasis.

Interleukin-8 secretion is increased by oxidant stress, which thereby cause the recruitment of inflammatory cells and induces a further increase in oxidant stress mediators, making it a key parameter in localized inflammation. IL-8 was shown to be associated with obesity.

IL-8 has also been implied to have a role in colorectal cancer by acting as an autocrine growth factor for colon carcinoma cell lines or the promotion of division and possible migration by cleaving metalloproteinase molecules. It has also been shown that IL-8 plays an important role in chemoresistance of malignant pleural mesothelioma by inducing expression of transmembrane transporters.

If a pregnant mother has high levels of interleukin-8, there is an increased risk of schizophrenia in her offspring. High levels of Interleukin 8 have been shown to reduce the likelihood of positive responses to antipsychotic medication in schizophrenia.

IL-8 has also been implicated in the pathology of cystic fibrosis. Through its action as a signalling molecule IL-8 is capable of recruiting and guiding neutrophils to the lung epithelium. Overstimulation and dysfunction of these recruited neutrophils within the airways results in release of a number of pro-inflammatory molecules and proteases resulting in further damage of lung tissue.

Some benzodiazepines have inhibitory effects on the adenosine A2B receptor mediated secretion of interleukin-8 in human mast cells. In a 2013 study, diazepam, 4′-chlorodiazepam and flunitrazepam markedly reduced NECA-induced interleukin-8 production in that order of potency, whereas clonazepam showed only a modest inhibition.

Regulation of expression
The expression of IL-8 is negatively regulated by a number of mechanisms. MiRNA-146a/b-5p indirectly represses IL-8 expression by silencing the expression of IRAK1. Additionally, the 3'UTR of IL-8 contains a A/U-rich element that makes it extremely unstable under certain conditions. IL-8 and other inflammatory cytokines form a vicious cycle with the transcription factor NF-κB in cystic fibrosis. NF-κB regulation represents a novel anti-IL-8 therapy for use in inflammatory diseases such as cystic fibrosis. Pathways leading to the induction of ribosomal protein S6 (rpS6) phosphorylation have also been found to enhance IL-8 protein synthesis. This translational control of IL-8 expression is dependent on A/U-rich proximal sequences (APS), which are found in the 3'UTR of IL-8 immediately after the stop codon.

Nomenclature
IL-8 was renamed CXCL8 by the Chemokine Nomenclature Subcommittee of the International Union of Immunological Societies,. Its approved HUGO gene symbol is CXCL8. Its receptors were similarly renamed:
 * Interleukin 8 receptor, alpha — CXCR1
 * Interleukin 8 receptor, beta — CXCR2

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Halford (band)

Halford is an American heavy metal band formed in 1999 by British singer Rob Halford, who is best known as the lead vocalist for heavy metal band Judas Priest. Halford formed the band to return to his heavy metal roots. His two previous projects were a "street metal"-style band called Fight and the industrial metal band 2wo.

Recordings
Halford's first album, Resurrection, was released in 2000 to critical acclaim. It was subsequently included in Martin Popoff's The Top 500 Heavy Metal Albums of All Time. In addition, the songs "Silent Screams" and the title-track "Resurrection" were included in Popoff's list. The track "The One You Love to Hate" featured vocalist Bruce Dickinson of metal band Iron Maiden.

In 2002, Halford released its second studio album Crucible. Although no live recordings have been officially released to promote this album, a high-quality soundboard bootleg titled Live: From the Disney House of Blues, was made available for download at robhalford.com in 2004. Halford released bonus tracks in Japan, such as "She", "Fugitive", "Rock the World Forever", and "In the Morning".

In November 2006, Halford released a single titled "Forgotten Generation". The first wave of Halford re-releases included remastered editions of the band's back catalog, initially released through the iTunes Store. Fight also released an early recording entitled K5 – The War of Words Demos, dating back to the formation of Fight. The compilation Metal God Essentials Vol. 1 not only included the fans' favorite Halford songs, but also the new recordings "Forgotten Generation" and "Drop Out".

Halford's third record, Halford III: Winter Songs, was released on November 3, 2009. The record features tracks recorded between 2008–2009, as well as traditional Christmas songs re-arranged to heavy metal renditions by Rob Halford himself. The first single "Get Into the Spirit" was released to radios on September 29, 2009. On June 25, 2010, Halford released "The Mower", the first single from the studio album Halford IV: Made of Metal, which was released in September 2010.

Band members
Current
 * Rob Halford – vocals (1999–present)
 * Mike Chlasciak – guitars (1999–present)
 * Bobby Jarzombek – drums (2000–present)
 * Mike Davis – bass (2003–present)
 * Roy Z – guitars (2003–present)

Former
 * Ray Riendeau – bass (1999–2002)
 * Pete Parada – drums (1999–2000)
 * Patrick Lachman – guitars (1999–2002)
 * Chad Tarrington – guitars (2003)
 * Jason Ward – bass (2003)

Discography

 * Resurrection (2000)
 * Crucible (2002)
 * Halford III: Winter Songs (2009)
 * Halford IV: Made of Metal (2010)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:08, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Arnis Bumaril
Appears to be an article created primarily to support his other article Marvin "Knife" Sotelo which is also marked for deletion. Not Notable. Minimal Wikipedia value.All other internet references appear to be created by author. Cpaliga 00:58, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Persistent guy. NN. Xoloz 06:16, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. utcursch | talk 11:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete neologistic term and as pointed out by nom, all references seem to be from Marvin "Knife" Sotelo. I'm about to make up my own neologism... "sotelocruft".--Isotope23 15:27, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
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Sarah Kemble Knight

Sarah Kemble Knight (April 19, 1666 – September 25, 1727) was an American teacher and businesswoman, who is remembered for a brief diary of a journey from Boston, Massachusetts Bay Colony, to New York City, Province of New York, in 1704–1705, which provides us with one of the few first-hand-accounts of travel conditions in Connecticut during colonial times.

Biography
Knight was born in Boston to Captain Thomas Kemble, a merchant of Boston, and Elizabeth Trerice. In 1689, she married Richard Knight. They had one child, Elizabeth. Having been left a widow after her husband's death in 1703, Knight assumed the responsibility of managing her household.

When she composed the journal, Knight was a 38-year-old married woman and keeper of a boarding house in Boston with some experience as a copier of legal documents. She was on her way to New Haven (and later to New York City) to act on behalf of a friend in the settlement of her deceased husband's estate. Knight kept a journal of her trip, and it provides us with one of the few first-hand-accounts of travel conditions in Connecticut during colonial times.

Journey from Boston to New York

Knight chose to travel with a post rider or other reliable guide, so she was never alone on the road. Still, the difficulties she encountered speak volumes about the physical dangers of long-distance travel by horseback in that era. In crossing the Thames River in a ferry boat that carried both passengers and their horses, she wrote in an entry dated “Thirsday, Octobr ye 5th”: “Here, by reason of a very high wind, we met with great difficulty in getting over—the Boat tos’t exceedingly, and our horses capper’d at a very surprising Rate, and set us all in a fright.”

The following day, after traveling for miles over roads that were “very bad, incumbered with rocks and mountainous passages,” Sarah Knight came to “a bridge under which the river ran very swift, my horse stumbled, and very narrowly escaped falling into the water, which extremely frightened me.”

As for room and board, Sarah Knight spent an evening with the Congregationalist minister in New London, “where I was very handsomely and plentifully treated and Lodg’d.” The minister, she noted, was “the most affable, courteous, Genero’s and best of men.”

Such experiences, however, were offset by others less wholesome. In Saybrook, where Madam Knight stopped for a mid-day dinner, she complained of the landlady: “Shee told us shee had some mutton wch shee would broil, wch I was glad to hear; […] but it being pickled and my Guide said it smelt strong of head sause, we left it, and pd sixpence apiece for our Dinners, wch was only smell.”

Further on, at a public house in Fairfield, Ms. Knight was likewise unable to eat the meal prepared for her and went to bed supperless. On being shown to her room, “a little Lento Chamber furnisht amongst other Rubbish with a High Bedd and a Low one […] down I laid my poor Carkes (never more tired) and found my Covering as scanty as my Bed was hard.”

Before crossing a particularly hazardous river, Knight cannot rid herself of thoughts of drowning, writing, "The concern of mind this relation sett me in: no thoughts but those of the dang'ros River could entertain my Imagination, and they were as formidable as varios, still Tormenting me with blackest Ideas of my Approaching fate–Sometimes seeing my self drowning, otherwhiles drowned, and at the best like a holy Sister just come out of a Spiritual Bath in dripping Garments." This is not the last danger water presents during Knight's journey. Near the end of the journey, she has a rather close call when she writes, "But in going over the Causeway at Dedham the Bridge being overflowed by the high waters coming down I very narrowly escaped falling over into the river Hors and all wch twas almost a miracle I did not." In addition to the danger posed by the rivers, Knight writes about the less than ideal roads on which she must travel. She explains in her straightforward manner that "[t]he Rodes all along this way are very bad, Incumbred with Rocks and mountainos passages, wch were very disagreeable to my tired carcass." These examples provide just a sampling of the dangers faced by Knight on her journey as chronicled in her journal.

Knight persevered and after six days on the road arrived in New Haven, where she visited with relatives before resuming her trip to New York, which took an additional three days of hard travel.

Journal
She recounted her experiences during the five-month journey in the “journals” that have made her known to students of American colonial literature and history. The small diary of her Boston–New York journey passed into private hands and lay undiscovered until 1825 when it was published posthumously as The Journal of Mme Knight by Theodore Dwight. The Journal of Madam Knight has subsequently been reprinted by others with additional biographical information.

Her journal
Her journal remains noteworthy both for its larger-than-life central character (Knight) and its telling of a trying journey not normally undertaken by a woman. The discomforts of primitive traveling are described with much sprightliness and not a little humor, including poems of gratitude and relief about finding moonlight, and poems of frustration about the loud sounds of drunken men late at night. The journal is valuable as a history of the manners and customs of the time, and is full of graphic descriptions of the early settlements in New England and New York. At the same time, it is interesting for its original orthography and interspersed rhymes.

Later life
In 1706 she opened a boarding house and taught school, which gained some reputation in Boston. She is described as “excelling in the art of teaching composition.” In 1713, Knight's daughter married John Livingston, of Connecticut, and the son of Robert Livingston the Elder, and Madam Knight moved with them to New London, where she continued her business and land dealings. Madam Knight, as she was generally called as a mark of respect, spent the rest of her life either in New London or Norwich, Connecticut. She owned several farms in New London, and had a home in Norwich. She ran an inn out of the Livingston farm in New London.

In the widowed years of her life, Sarah Kemble Knight left Boston for good and moved to New London to live near her married daughter. There, she owned a tavern and an inn, engaged in the buying and selling of land for speculation and became a respected member of her church. Sarah Kemble Knight died at age 62 and is buried in New London at Ye Antientist Burial Ground, New London.

Relevance and reception
Since its publication, The Journal of Madam Knight has been valued as both an historical and literary document. As a travel narrative, it recounts the dangerous and primitive conditions of travel in the colonies at this time period. Furthermore, Knight's detailed descriptions of New York, New Haven, and the many small settlements she travels through across Connecticut, shed light on colonial life at the turn of the 18th century. She documents eating habits, architecture, religious diversity, and various fashions of the people of New York and New Haven, as well as the living conditions found in rural settlements between Boston and New York.

Knight's diary has also been important in the field of women's history and literary recovery, both of which are movements that seek to recover narratives often forgotten or neglected in favor of more mainstream, canonized works. As a woman's diary, The Journal of Madam Knight represents a deviation from the traditional masculine canon. While her status as a feminist figure remains open for debate, Knight's diary has merited study for its record of an unusual situation (a woman traveling alone through the New England wilderness); for its uncharacteristically outward focus (as opposed to the typical, inwardly reflective, Puritan diary); and for the unique judgements and strong personality contained within it.

While many critics and scholars have praised Knight's Journal as an historical account, some scholars, such as Robert O. Stephens, believe it should also be read as an imaginative and creative work. Stephens asserts that "By recognizing the mythic implications of Madam Knight's Journal, even at the expense of its mimetic and outwardly historical impact, we are able to place the work more clearly in the fruitful tradition of colonial American, and particularly New England, literature...Identification of the individual mythic allusions is only a matter of reading, but seeing the tantalizing pattern they fall into is an indication that this innocent and rough-mannered journal has meanings that a literal reading cannot guess at." By reading the Journal as a mythical account, Stephens hopes to align Knight's work with the narrative style of Nathaniel Hawthorne.

Structure
Knight's journal is largely a ledger of the places and people she encountered during each day of her trip. The extended scenes highlight remarkable or memorable interactions, usually with people that Knight has strong opinions about.

For example, early in the journal, crosses a swamp with a man she sarcastically describes as "honest John." She recounts of how he embellishes the stories of his adventures to appear to her as "a Prince disguis'd." Upon reaching the next stop, Knight is confronted with this man's eldest daughter, who interrogates her with "silly questions" referring to the unusualness of a woman being on such a journey, to which Knight responds curtly, calling her rude. These instances of hyperbole and character judgment contrast with other, apparently less remarkable interactions, such as the following account of a transaction between two postmen (one of which was her guide), in which she does not even name her guide: "About 8 in the morning, I with the Post proceeded forward without observing any thing remarkable; And about two, on, Arrived at the Post's second stage, where the western Post mett him and exchanged Letters." This account, however, is immediately followed by a detailed description of a meal Knight was served, which appears to have been notable for its unpleasant appearance and aftermath. Extended scenes describing Knight's unpleasant encounters with food occur often throughout her journal.

Some moments during the journey appear to have had a profound impact on Knight. These experiences are marked by distinct poetic interludes in her journal, in which she abandons the conventions of prose and resorts to metrical composition. In one instance, Knight finds herself riding her horse in the pitch-dark woods alone late at night. She feels intensely fearful until the moon reveals itself and lights her way, after which she experiences a transcendental sense of relief and gratitude toward the moon. She unpacks this tightly bound moment with the following solvent prose: Fair Cynthia, all the Homage that I may Unto a Creature, unto thee I pay; In Lonesome woods to meet so kind a guide, To Mee's more worth than all the world beside. Some Joy I felt just now, when safe got or'e     Yon Surly River to this Rugged shore, Deeming Rough welcomes from these clownish Trees, Better than Lodgings with Nereidees. Yet swelling fears surprise; all dark appears– Nothing but Light can dissipate those fears. My fainting vitals can't lend strength to say, But softly whisper, O I wish 'twere day. The murmer hardly warma the Ambient air, E' re thy Bright Aspect rescues from despair: Makes the old Hagg her sable mantle loose, And a Bright joy do's through my Soul diffuse. The Boistero's Trees now Lend a Passage Free, And pleasant prospects thou giv'st light to see. Later, she encounters a very poor family, for whom she seemingly pretends to have an overwhelming sense of empathy (a convention of verse at the time). She draws out the emotional nuances of this vision as follows: Tho' Ill at éase, A stranger and alone, All my fatigues shall not extort a grone. These Indigents have hunger wth their ease; Their best is worn behalfe then my disease. Their Misirable butt wch Heat and Cold Alternately without Repulse do hold; Their Lodgings thyn and hard, their Indian fare The mean Apparel which the wretches wear, And their ten thousand ills wch can't be told, Makes nature er'e 'tis middle age'd look old. When I reflect, my late fatigues do seem Only a notion or forgotten Dreem. Although written as a journal and despite her occasional poetic flights, Knight's writing is primarily focused outward, concerned with taking inner stock of her external surroundings as she travels both inwardly and outwardly. In one instance, she notes that some of her experiences and stories are "not proper to be Related by a Female pen," suggesting that even though she wrote privately, Knight was aware of the possibility her work might be read by an external party. However she made no effort to publish and seems to have forgotten to have the journal destroyed before she died, as was common at the time.

Danger, courage, and determination
Knight's journey was a difficult one for a woman of her station, and both the perils and her courage and recklessness throughout the journey are illustrated in multiple moments throughout her journal. Knight's knowledge of business and determination is apparent early in her account of her journey when she writes about an exchange concerning payment for an escort. She tells the woman attempting to get more money from her simply that she “would not be accessary to such extortion.” In the end, Knight stands her ground and is able to bypass the negotiator, deal directly with the would-be escort, and arrange a price she feels is fair. Knight must traverse some rather dangerous landscapes unfamiliar to her. Along the way, Knight may seem to feel fear or apprehension.

Humor
Despite the hardships of her journey, Knight infused humor into her journal as she traveled. In addition, many scholars of American Literature cite Knight's picaresque characterizations and her satirical tendencies as reasons to consider her an early precursor to "the sort of broad humor and characterization that would be typical of later American writers," such as Mark Twain.

Racism and class concerns
Sarah Kemble Knight was a complex human being with early American racial and class sensibilities. Knight refers to racial interactions between slaves and whites with white supremacist's observations: "But too Indulgent (especially ye farmers) to their slaves: suffering too great familiarity from them, permitting ym to sit at Table and eat with them, (as they say to save time,) and into the dish goes the black hoof as freely as the white hand." Knight also demonstrates racist judgment of Native Americans: "There are every where in the Towns as I passed, a Number of Indians the Natives of the Country, and are the most salvage of all the salvages of that kind that I had ever Seen: little or no care taken (as I heard upon enquiry) to make them otherwise."

Knight comments that a certain country gentleman is animal-like and uncouth. She says that country people, like cows, "seldom Loose their Cudd." She also describes the previously mentioned country gentleman as "spitting a Large deal of Aromatick Tincture, he gave a scrape with his shovel like shoo, leaving a small shovel full of dirt on the floor, made a full stop, Hugging his own pretty Body with his hands under his arms, Stood staring rown'd him, like a Catt let out of a Baskett." Clearly, Knight's account of the strangers she met on her journey would conflict with more modern understandings of how we should treat our fellow human beings. However, as an early American writer, Knight's writings offer scholars a view into the controversial complexities of 18th-century life.

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Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Talk talk:List of solar system objects by radius

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was speedy merge content with attribution, and delete -- BD2412 talk 11:55, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Talk talk:List of solar system objects by radius
Not an article. Apparent mistake, perhaps from a broken merge template; there is no "talk talk" namespace. This article is in the main namespace with the title "Talk talk:List of...", which is clearly undesirable. — brighterorange  (talk) 01:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Strange. This was obviously never intended to be an article. I doubt the author would have any problem with my recommendation to Delete. --CastAStone 01:08, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete As you said, obviously this was not intentially posted as an article. will381796 01:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Right, therefore I'm moving this to MfD. -- BD2412 talk 01:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Really? This is in the article namespace, so shouldn't it be deleted at AfD? — brighterorange  (talk) 01:36, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * It's not an attempt to make an article, tho - it's an attempt to make a talk page - why have it in article space if the criteria for discussing articles won't apply? -- BD2412 talk
 * Actually, it's pretty clear that the editor who made this intended to post something to Talk:List of Solar system objects by radius - this should be a speedy merge of content/edit history and deletion of the resulting redirect. -- BD2412 talk 01:42, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * ...and now I've moved what was on this page to the intended destination, dropping a note attributing the content to the original author (as a redundant courtesy, as he had signed it already). This can be speedied. -- BD2412 talk 01:48, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
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 * Why do they not try to dial another planet than Earth ?Hektor 01:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I've actually wondered this many times myself, since you'd think that Carter would conjecture that the Earths Gate was out of service, but they never give an explanation within the show. Perhaps she determined that the Gate only had the power for a few more dial attempts, and she didn't want to waste them (Later in the series they do, in fact, explain that the DHD was nearly out of power and died soon afterwards).

Can someone please show me what the point of origin looks like on the Antarctic Stargate? I have not seen this episode for some time! ~SleweD 15:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Final edit: Most point of origins can be found here: http://www.rdanderson.com/stargate/database/databas1.htm

stargate vibration suppression
Is this the first episode that explicitly mentions shock absorbers/dampeners around the gate which stops the severe shaking when the gate is dialled?

If so it probably should be added to the continuity section as i've never heard it mentioned in any other episodes and it explains why the gate shakes like buggery in the first (few?) episode(s) but not afterwards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.163.70 (talk) 20:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

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Suzuki V-Strom 1000

The Suzuki V-Strom 1000, also known as the DL1000, is a dual-sport motorcycle with a 996 cc V-twin engine and a standard riding posture. It has been manufactured in Japan by Suzuki since 2002, although sales in Europe ended in 2009. The name V-Strom combines "V" referring to the bike's engine configuration with the German Strom, meaning stream or power.

The V-Strom motorcycle is based on the V-twin engine initially designed for the Suzuki TL1000S and TL1000R motorcycles. It incorporates design elements from other Suzuki motorcycles including fuel injection based on the GSX-R models. A smaller-engined version, V-Strom 650 is also manufactured.

Since 2020, Suzuki has started manufacturing the replacement for the DL1000, the Suzuki V-Strom 1050 and V-Strom 1050XT. Suzuki has completely redesigned the motorcycle, though the engine remained mainly the same, except for some changes to comply to Euro5 emission standards.

Kawasaki marketed an identical version of the bike named the KLV1000 in Europe.

Model year changes
2003 (K3) Added fork pre-load adjusters. Alternator output increased from 350 watts to 400 watts. New clutch slave cylinder dust cover, later production models.

2004 (K4) Redesigned instrument cluster. Upgrade 16-bit to 32-bit ECU, some sensors changed. New turn signals, 20 watt without reflector compared with earlier 10 watt. Belly pan redesigned. Stronger hand guards attached to end of handlebar. New adjustable windscreen design. Left handlebar switch incorporates flash-to-pass & emergency blinkers (EU models already had this). Stronger handlebars. Revised mirrors for less mirror breakage.

2005 (K5) Silver frame revised to black frame. Black rear frame covers vs previously fairing colour. New quiet clutch cover. Headlight interrupt when starting.

2007 (K7) New clear turn signal lenses and new swingarm pivot covers.

2013 (L3) Suzuki is introducing a 2014 model V-Strom 1000, based on the popular, and strong selling adventure bike category. A "Concept" bike was on display during the September 2012 Intermot Motorcycle Show.

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The Tennessee Fire

The Tennessee Fire is the debut album by the rock band My Morning Jacket. It introduced the reverb-heavy sound that is characteristic of the band's early material. This is most apparent in Jim James' vocals, many of which were recorded in an improvised studio above his cousin’s garage. Of the sixteen tracks on the album, only four were re-recorded in a professional studio prior to the album’s release: "Heartbreakin Man", "The Bear", "Evelyn Is Not Real" and "I Think I’m Going to Hell".

In 2019 a deluxe version of the album celebrating its 20th anniversary was released, featuring the original 16-track album alongside 16 additional previously unreleased and unheard tracks, demos, alternate versions and more.

Track listing
“Alabama Come Clean” is a hidden track that isn’t listed on the original release.

The Tennessee Fire: 20th Anniversary Edition
Disc 1 - Original Album

Disc 2 - Bonus Material

Personnel

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Talk:Lamrim

I think it will be a good idea to put in some new sections: 1)lam rim lineage (with the lineage lama`s named), 2)prelimenaries for lam rim meditation: the djor Chö and 3)lamrim retreat 4) the 8 great Lam Rims please some coment on this. thanks, Tjvogel (talk) 21:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I refreshed and improved the article. The links I removed, because the article is on Lamrim, so only texts or medias of lamrim should be mentioned. Because I'm not a native English speaker you're most welcome to improve my English style. Kt66 01:02, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Stages of the Path (lamrim, lam-rim)
I began a section with the above heading in the Tibetan Buddhism article, then realised this was already here and linked to it instead. The proposed subheadings I had were hearing, analytic meditation, focussed meditation in retreat
 * lineage of the Stages of the Path - sutra etc, Atisha's Bodhipathapradipa (byang-chhub lam-gyi sgron-ma), Kadampa, Gampopa, Tshong-kha-pa
 * features of the Stages of the Path - systematic progression in concepts (enumerate concepts)
 * method of training in the Stages of the Path

Are these bits useful? Are there problems with them? I hope to move other stuff over to here and hope others will like it.

Moonsell (talk) 11:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Authenticity Section
I've attempted to make this section a little more neutral by qualifying some of the claims and removing the sweeping conclusion at the end. I'm still uncertain what is meant by the sentences that refer to the hidden meaning of the sutras being contained in the number and ordering of topics- can anyone clarify this point, or is this just some sort of esoteric way of saying that meaning was encoded in the selection of subjects that Atisa was later able to divine? Second, this section seems to be attempting to address concerns about the authenticity of Lamrim as something that was taught directly by Shakyamuni, but unless there are specific critiques of this particular teaching, I don't see a reason to get into that- I would assume that it should be taken for granted that tantric and Mahayana teachings are not generally regarded as authentic by Theravada practitioners, and that that fact doesn't need to be mentioned for every single Mahayana and Vajrayana sutra in WP. What would be helpful here is an accounting of the history of the texts as a document- Vajrayana practitioners regard them as having been created by the Buddha and revealed by Atisa, but surely someone has traced their earliest mention in a manuscript, earliest extant examples of this type of text, etc. --Clay Collier (talk) 10:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

 * This section claims lamrims cover tantra as well as sutra. We need to lose that misconception. There is no need to allude to tantra in this article. Moonsell (talk) 11:44, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Taryn Manning

dispute?
Does anyone know why this article is marked as in dispute?

Alister 01:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Maybe because she wasn't actually born in AZ.

-HughMor

 * so then where was she born? is a dispute tag really necessary? -- eo 00:34, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

remove the Dispute?
Article seems OK to me....

Almost crashed?
"Manning discussed her experience as one of 140 passengers on JetBlue Airways Flight 292, which had almost crashed." I'm sorry, but a nose gear problem, even a complete nose gear FAILURE on an Airbus 320 does not constitute "almost crashed". I see a picture of fire and brimstone being portrayed, of a big fireball. Sorry if I sound picky. A pilot with experience and current training (who is just the person in the left seat of an A320) does not CRASH because of a nose gear issue. This sounds like an exagerration. I think the wording needs to be "softened", if you will. Acidradio 08:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

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This article needs a photo. So anyone, please add one to this. -- Thank you! I think a shot from a movie premiere or a cute picture of her should be added too. She is a talented actress, who deserves to be respected !! Right, guys? - Lollomonkey1

-- Agreed. Photos are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.72.225.46 (talk) 17:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Bad photos
If the photos are not allowed here, then why not do something to fix it instead of just marking it to speedy deletion category. I mean, what the heck?!?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.72.225.46 (talk) 13:59, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

New picture of her
New picture of her should be added to this article. The picture right now is old and not very good. She's drinking soda. Add a picture from a premiere etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.134.23.130 (talk) 07:43, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2019
There is a simple inaccuracy re: the description of Taryn's role in Hawaii Five-0. Please change "main role" to "recurring role." Source here: https://www.tvguide.com/news/kecks-exclusives-taryn-1027062/ This article clearly states: "She was originally slated to appear in the first four episodes and recur throughout the season." That is, she was intended to be a recurring character. This is further evidenced by IMDB, which shows that Taryn appeared in 3 episodes of season one, and a total of 10 episodes in the show's 9 season run thus far. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1600194/fullcredits/cast?ref_=m_tt_cl_sc

A recurring character, as per wiki, is "a fictional character...who often and frequently appears from time to time during the series' run." Henceforth, the classification of "main" character, for any season, is inaccurate. The currently cited sources do not support the current description, they clearly indicate that the role is recurring.

Please change to, "Manning has had a recurring role on Hawaii Five-0 since season 1."

LizzyRobbie (talk) 04:47, 7 May 2019 (UTC) Robbie
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Despite only appearing in three episodes Manning received main billing. Per WP:TVCAST main cast members are determined by the credits on the show itself and is NOT based on screen time. Therefore the role is main. The Doctor Who  (talk) 05:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

"Determined by the credits on the show itself" - I accept that premise, I just don't see/know where exactly, this specific determination of her having a main role can be found. I'm genuinely curious and open to the answer. Where is the evidence that she received main billing? The current sources cited in the wiki article do not prove that - in fact they disprove it. The season one credits list four actors: Alex O'Loughlin, Scott Caan, Grace Park and Daniel Dae Kim. Furthermore, the wiki page for the show itself list ONLY those 4 as receiving main billing in season one. (Apologies if this response is in the wrong spot, am still familiarizing myself with Wikipedia's discussion format.) LizzyRobbie LizzyRobbie (talk) 05:51, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Note: I'm closing this edit request to allow the discussion to continue. Please feel free to re-open if necessary once WP:CONSENSUS has been reached. NiciVampireHeart 09:01, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Billing status
"Determined by the credits on the show itself" - please show me where, exactly, this determination can be found. I'm genuinely curious and open to the answer. Where is the evidence that she received main billing? The current sources cited in the wiki article do not prove that - in fact they disprove it. The season one credits list four actors: Alex O'Loughlin, Scott Caan, Grace Park and Daniel Dae Kim. Furthermore, the wiki page for the show itself list ONLY those 4 as receiving main billing in season one. (Apologies if this response is in the wrong spot, am still familiarizing myself with Wikipedia's discussion format.) LizzyRobbie (talk) 05:17, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * For the fact that she received main billing you can see the "also starring" credit she is given in the episodes at the following links: S1E4, S1E5, S1E13. It is the first credit after the opening credits in those episodes and is determined as that the series is "also starring" Manning in addition to the other four you mentioned above. In any other season 1 episode only O'Loughlin, Caan, Park, and Kim are given main billing. Just wondering, by wiki page are you referring to this page? The Doctor Who  (talk) 05:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I should have specified the page. No, I'm referring to this site, specifically this page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hawaii_Five-0_(2010_TV_series)_characters

The chart lists her as "also starring", while simultaneously listing other cast as "main" - that is: there is a difference between the two types of role.

I agree, the CBS links you've provided indicate that she is "also starring" - but why is that being interpreted as "main"? I read through the earlier link you provided (thanks!) about correctly listing casts, but didn't find any discussion as to "also starring." Neither did I find any argument that "also starring" and "main" are the same thing.

I'd argue that the two are clearly different - as evidenced by the currently cited article referring to her character as "recurring" throughout the first season. I acknowledge that Wikipedia doesn't take into account the number of episodes, but ultimately I wonder: what good is the opening para of the page, if it gives readers a massively incorrect impression of how much the character will be seen?

If she is "also starring" - would it not be better to simply write that she has an "also starring" credit? LizzyRobbie (talk) 08:10, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

 * Well within the series any actors generally receive one of the following five credits: They're credited in the opening sequence, "also starring", "special guest star" "guest star" or "co-star". Co-stars are generally more minor roles and generally don't play an important enough role to be mentioned. "Special guest star" or "Guest star" are a given, this includes all recurring characters as they are only guest starring within the individual episode. Being featured in the opening credit sequence of the series is those actors that are being starred in the series. So "also starring" indicates that they are being billed higher than a guest star and could again be said as that the series is "also starring" this member in addition to the rest of the cast. The more important word to focus on there is "starring" because it is the equivalent is saying that this actor is starring in the series. It's also important to follow precedent here where within the series Lauren German is considered a main character because she received an also starring credit for the majority of the second season. Chi McBride was also considered to be starring in the series as soon as he began receiving an also starring credit halfway through the fourth season. Another example of actors being considered main when they receive an also starring credit is here on a similar show.  The Doctor Who  (talk) 18:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

There's still the assumption, here, that "also starring" or, as you specify, "starring" = main. Why is that the case? That's what I'm trying to figure out. To me, it's a separate category - otherwise why bother to have both "starring" and "also starring" in the first place? You say to focus on "starring" but: why? That is not the full name of the category.

If the argument is that "recurring" is incorrect because she received "also starring" billing, then why is it acceptable to transform "also starring" into "main"? Even the Blue Bloods page that you linked displays three separate categories: recurring, also starring, main. Ergo, they're different.

I agree that it's important to follow precedent. At this stage it's a matter of semantics and we clearly disagree, so I'll just let it go. I have no stake in this, other than the fact that it gives readers the wrong impression. But I will ask this, again.

If the opening paragraph gives readers an incorrect understanding of the season one role (readers will clearly read para and expect the character to be in the season a lot) then what good is it? They merely end up misinformed. LizzyRobbie (talk) 23:11, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Well that's when people will have to make their own assumption of the role and then if they make the assumption that she's in the entire season then they'll just have to be disappointed. Main has never meant and will never mean that they'll in the entire season. For example in this series there was a character that was only credited as main in the first episode but was considered a main character for the entire season. Or in this series there was a character only credited as main in the first two episodes of the season but is still considered a main character for the season. This situation is no different. The Doctor Who  (talk) 02:07, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. -Doc (?) 00:39, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

CommandN
Not notable. Delete. brenneman (t) (c) 01:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. As is my custom with net-related items, I test with Google Groups rather than Google Web, because a) anything important on the Internet is likely to be discussed in USENET, and b) Google Groups is much less subject to distortion by deliberate self-promotion and "search-engine optimization." In this case, a search on "commandN vidcast" (two separate words, not exact phrase) yields no hits at all. Nobody on Usenet has mentioned "commandN" and "vidcast" in the same article. It is impossible to believe this would be true of a notable Internet phenomenon. Compare 19 hits for "al franken podcast" and 160,000 hits for "Wikipedia." Dpbsmith (talk) 01:33, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Reply. OK, you obviously don't have a clue what commandN is. They are one of the biggest and most popular technology vidcasts on the web. They have approximately 50,000 downloads of their video per week. The hosts have featured on many other popular technology shows such as Call For Help and have also featured on the extremely popular podcast This Week in Tech. Google, Google Groups and Usenet have nothing to do with determining if a wikipedia article should be deleted. btw, I posted almost this entire article and I have no affiliation with commandN at all (considering I'm actually from Australia). Yes the article currently does sound a little promotitive, but over time others will/can edit it and it will become less so. btw, do you know what a backlink is? As if you have a look here and here, you will see that many other sites have linked to the commandN site as they are very popular. cheers, Treelovinhippie 02:47, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Of course I don't have a clue as to what commandN is, so I'm trying to do due diligence by checking it out for myself. Wikipedia is based on the whole idea that you do not need credentials in a specific field in order to apply basic scholarship. You're saying that it is fantastically popular... but not one single person on USENET has ever seen fit to mention it? Something does not jibe here. You need to give me something I can accept as neutral and check out for myself. The sort of links you mention are unimpressive, because sites link to each other all the time in attempts to mutually raise their Google pageranks, and because there are sites that are just trying track every podcast or whatnot. OK, I'm going to propose three tests. I don't know the outcome of any of them yet. You tell me which you think I should try.
 * Do a search to see whether Wired has ever mentioned it
 * Do an online search of The New York Times, available to me courtesy of my public library, to see whether The New York Times has ever mentioned it
 * Join the vidcast.org forums and post a query asking people whether commandN is notable.
 * Which of these would you like me to try? Dpbsmith (talk) 12:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment. I would agree that a weekly audience of 50,000 would be notable for a downloadable videocast, but I would like to see some sort of independent verification of that. Where did the number come from? Also, the Google (web) search yielded fewer than 400 hits, which is rather small, and Alexa rank is 619,000. I'd be leaning toward delete unless the audience is confirmed. MCB 04:17, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, count my vote as delete, based on lack of verification of audience (sole source is subject of article relayed via a comment here). MCB 22:12, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Reply. They don't specifically release how many downloads they receive, since they often use bittorrent to distribute their content and other sources like www.odeo.com and many others. But Amber Mac stated on the recent episode of TWIT that their downloads were around 50,000 oer episode (i.e. per week). This idiot User:Aaron Brenneman is simply going around to all the articles I've done and tagging them for deletion. If you have a look at his talk section you will see that he has been warned on numerous occasions. Can someone please ban him for good as he is being a real arsehole. Just have a look at his user page and he has a book labelled 'Dispute Resolution', so he obviously gets a kick out of pissing people off.
 * Treelovinhippie, please see WP:NPA and WP:Civility.
 * To Admins: Please take note that the user who has tagged this article for deletion has surprising done so with many of the other articles I have created/editted. He obviously likes the conflict it causes (as can be seen in the 'dispute box' which is on his user page). Treelovinhippie 05:41, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think it goes without saying that Treelovinhippie's comments here and on his user page (both exhibiting ignorance of wikipedia policy and community norms, and an insulting lack of respect for his fellow wikipedians) warrants more attention from administrators than a perfectly reasonable AfD. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:47, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep. Notable Canadian vidcast.--Nicodemus75 05:51, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * What are we using to gauge a vidcast's notability? - brenneman (t) (c)  05:57, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Keep - This is a nice and very informative program
 * Keep The information is all right as far as I can tell and it is something that people would be looking on Wikipedia about if they wanted to know some information that they cannot find on the actual vidcasts. It isn't a small thing either. I knew nothing about either of the hosts, nothing of the show and I started watching at show 1 way back in June with only a Digg link to lead me to the show. It certainly deserves its own page with a description on Wikipedia.
 * Doesn't count without a signature! Marskell 09:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless some source other than the creators/cast can be cited as evidence of popularity. Right now, there's no evidence whatsoever that this is popular, and a fair amount of evidence that it isn't. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 06:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Evidence. For those of you people who don't have a clue as to the popularity of commandN....
 * Now as I have stated before, it is often difficult to state exact figures on the number of downloads per podcast, as often these are distributed via bittorrent (which is very difficult to track) and the podcasts end up all over the net with various other sources distributing it.
 * As I have said, also, the host/s of this show have featured on TWiT at least once (and in most cases more). TWiT is the number one podcast on the internet and has been at the top of the iTunes charts for a long time. They are a technology podcast and only feature people who are interesting and are well-known (i.e. this podcasts' host). That in itself should be enough to justify its popularity.
 * http://thisweekintech.com/24
 * Another thing I'll post is a link to a post on http://www.digg.com (a social bookmarking site). Basically the number of 'diggs' is how many people have clicked to 'digg' it and is an indication of its popularity. See an example of a digg article posted for this podcast here: http://www.digg.com/technology/commandN_Episode_10_Up.
 * Delete per ManInBlack. Also half-advert: "so be sure to subscribe to one of the many commandN feeds to be notified when a new episode is released." Marskell 09:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Then edit it if you think it's an advert... isn't that the point of wikipedia?
 * Delete. Encyclopedic notability not established by the article, which looks like advertising. Gamaliel 11:19, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable podcast. android  79  13:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable per A Man in Black and dpbsmith, despite the best efforts of the author to convince us otherwise. Seriously, this thing is supposed to be a popular Internet phenomenon and draws no Usenet discussion. I'm not sure that's ever happened before. And I doubt it's happened now. Lord Bob 14:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - The fact that the hosts of CommandN have featured on TWiT is meaningless. Because they have appeared on a more notable podcast and were previously featured on a cable show that automatically confers notability on their current project?  That's specious logic. In my opinion a podcast is like a blog; there has to be excellent evidence of overwhelming popularity before it can be considered notable enough to merit a standalone article.  At this point simply referencing CommandN in the hosts own wiki articles would be sufficient.  For due dilligence sake, I followed the links provided as evidence.  came up with a "That item was not found" message.   I went to  and did a search on CommandN.  Average "diggs" for an episode were around 450 with a max of 510 for ep10.  So 510 people voted for it, compared to 1900+ for a story on Google Office that has been there for a mere 14 hours.  That's not overwhelming evidence of the popularity/notability of CommmandN.  Looking around  I can't find any information on how they tally votes.  Do they only count unique votes or is every click counted?  After taking a look at this, I'm voting Delete based on my research and the research done by Dpbsmith.--Isotope23 15:48, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable, probably self-advertisement. --Isolani 16:14, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually no, I created the entire article (pretty much) and I have absolutely no affiliation with them at all. Treelovinhippie 00:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * delete not convinced this is notable; poor article. — brighterorange  (talk) 16:37, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Then edit it! The article was even poorer before than it is now. Give it time and people will create a better article.
 * Keep - You Ppl are mean, not like its hurting anyone being here? Whats the problem?
 * Keep - CommandN is in the top 100 in the podcast section of the canadian iTunes music store and it's one of the first canadian vidcast.
 * Weak Keep Having just said not convinced I now find 55,000 hits on Yahoo. (OK, so I know it's not Google but 55,000!).  How many of these are more than repeat directory entries or the like I don't know.  Don't like the article either.  Please rewrite and make it less of an ad. Marcus22 19:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * First, what did you search on? commandN by itself is a problem, because it gets hundreds of irrelevant hits due to its frequent use in programs, e.g. here. When I try "commandN vidcast" on Yahoo I get less than 400 hits. How would you interpret commandN vidcast getting ZERO hits in Google Groups (USENET?) (Come to think of it, I'm a little surprised that nobody advocating for keeping this article has bothered to make a USENET posting about it just to prove me wrong). Dpbsmith (talk) 20:33, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Dpb. The Yahoo search was just a straight search for CommandN. As the greater part of the hits seem to include reference to vidcasting - but by no means all! - I left it at that.  55,000 is an impressive figure but I am by no means convinced.  Hence the weak bit of the keep.  As to USENET, I have no idea about that.  (ie. I have no idea about USENET).  You are right, however, that "CommandN vidcast" draws less than 400 hits.  And Google offers no lifeline!  Marcus22 12:12, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * is blocked for 24 seconds for spilling the beans. brenneman (t) (c)  00:10, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - commandN offers a unique view on technology from 3 hosts who know there tech. While the article may need improving it should be kept. Vidcast aside the two main host work on a technology TV show and sometimes have an inside line on what is new and notable in the tech world. Other podcasts such as TWIT www.twit.tv and diggnation www.diggnation.com have a wikipedia pages and are same type of podcast as commandN.
 * Keep - Heard about commandN tonight on the popular Podcast TWiT and was wanting more information, and found it here. Am amused by this Aaron guys rants, but nevertheless, he should be ignored and this should be kept.  For those that are complaining about it being an ad, or messy...just clean it up.  --Underdog 06:07, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Always happy to keep the punters laughing. - brenneman (t) (c)  06:21, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Very popular canadian vidcast.

 * Keep - First of all, you guys seem unusually bent on deleting this page. Secondly, Google is a suitable test if you use it properly. If you've ever taken Statistics, you'll learn that survey results can easily be biased by the wording of the question. Your criteria include the term "vidcast", which doesn't appear anywhere on the CommandN wiki, nor anywhere on commandn.tv, the official website. Biased, don't you think? If a simple search for "CommandN" doesn't satisfy you because the popularity of commandn.net (an artist group in Tokyo) is interfering with results, all you need to do is include conventional terms--"commandn podcast OR vidcast OR videoblogging" returns 53,400 hits. If you're *still* not convinced, a simple paging through the results to view contexts should help. It has only 2 Google Groups hits, but if you know anything about the unquestionably popular podcast This Week In Tech (or TWiT), that podcast gets only 44 hits, with the benefit of a dozen former US television personalities.
 * Keep. Popular vidcast
 * Keep. Excellent vidcast. Very informative and funny. MacGeek 00:32, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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