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 * Paul Kihara, currently residing in Ottawa, Ontario, is playing his second year with the Ottawa Fury PDL Team. Kihara has had a very decorated youth career, most recently being part of the U-21 Kenya National Team.  He has been a member of the Carleton University Soccer team for three years, and is one of the main reasons for their unbeaten 2007 season scoring six goals in 11 games from midfield.  Coppercanuck (talk) 13:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ladislas Bushiri or Ladi, returns to the Fury PDL squad after a 2007 campaign in which he featured heavily, making 14 appearances with over 1000 minutes played. Bushiri was part of the 2006 St. Anthony Italia squad which literally won it all - the Ontario Cup, CSL Open Cup and the Canadian Club National Championships. He enters the 2008 PDL season already familiar with new team head coach Stephen O’Kane, having played under him in 2007 with the Algonquin Thunder. Bushiri helped the Thunder win their fourth straight Ontario CAA championship and narrowly missed out on a second straight Canadian CAA championship, losing on penalty kicks in the final. Coppercanuck (talk) 13:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 04 March 2014

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. This will probably leave a fair number of incoming links to be repaired. It's hard to say how many, since many of the listings on the WHL will be from navboxen. I'll fix those, but we'll probably have to wait a while thereafter to see where there really are links that need fixing. --BDD (talk) 18:08, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Ottawa Fury → Ottawa Fury (2005–13) – Defunct USL PDL club. Folded to make way for the NASL expansion franchise with the same name. – Michael (talk) 23:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

 * Comment: (2005-2013) would be more normal. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:18, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. – Michael (talk) 23:49, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

 * actually '2005–13' is fine - firstly you have used the incorrect dash, secondly per precedent at North American Soccer League (1968–84). GiantSnowman 10:04, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Really? it looks horrible, but so be it, then disregard. As for the dash, my keyboard has only one dash. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:12, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Well I don't like it either, not sure what policy says. Who knows, if consensus is here for '2005–2013' then we could always RM the other article on the back of it. GiantSnowman 10:16, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * From WP:DATERANGE, "the range's "end" year is usually abbreviated to two digits" EddieV2003 (talk) 20:35, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

 * Oppose Perhaps you're thinking of the Whitecaps or Sounders articles where there was an original NASL article, a USL article and then MLS article. Unlike other club articles, there is no overlap between this one and previous incarnations. The NASL article is at Ottawa Fury FC. There is no need for a DAB. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:25, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

 * Support a move so that the base title can be redirected to Ottawa Fury FC. Honestly, they should just be merged; readers shouldn't have to play guessing games about where they'll find the material they're looking for. However, the merge hasn't found consensus. Considering that, it's pretty clear from Google News that most references to "Ottawa Fury" now intend the existing professional team rather than its departed amateur incarnation. I'd recommend Ottawa Fury (PDL) instead of the dates, as it's more WP:CONCISE and used in Orange County Blues FC (PDL), but any move will do.--Cúchullain t/ c 18:45, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I've just noticed Ottawa Fury Women, another existing team with this same name, and have created a disambiguation page at Ottawa Fury (disambiguation) to help readers navigate the articles. If the men's articles aren't merged, this PDL article definitely needs to be moved; it's definitely not the primary topic of the name "Ottawa Fury" over the two existing incarnations.--Cúchullain t/ c 18:58, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * If the NASL team is known as Ottawa Fury, then yes a move in order. However, I see them referred to Ottawa Fury FC at http://www.nasl.com and http://www.nasl.com/teams. Their domain is ottawafuryfc.com. Do they have a media guide? What do they want to be known as? We won't know what the common name is until they've played for a month or two. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:41, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The NASL team can be (and evidently are) the primary topic of "Ottawa Fury" even if their article is located at Ottawa Fury FC. In the Google News search for "Ottawa Fury", the only references to the amateur team are as the earlier incarnation of the existing NASL team. The vast majority of sources intend the NASL team (eg and a few mean the women's team.  The erstwhile PDL incarnation are clearly not the primary topic of the name "Ottawa Fury", so their article needs to be moved away from the base name.--Cúchullain t/ c  20:53, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Very selective as those sources also list FC. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You're not following. The question is what people mean when they use the name "Ottawa Fury". Most sources using "Ottawa Fury" intend the subject we cover at Ottawa Fury FC; very few intend this defunct amateur incarnation. As such Ottawa Fury FC is the primary topic of Ottawa Fury, regardless of the article title. Barack Obama is also the primary topic for Obama, so it redirects there even if the main article will never move. In the very least there's no evidence that this PDL team is the primary topic of "Ottawa Fury" compared to Ottawa Fury FC and Ottawa Fury Women; it actually seems to be the least common of the three.--Cúchullain t/ c 21:51, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I am following and I understand the concepts you're presenting. Do you follow me? My argument is that both variants, with and without "FC", are being used presently and so it's too soon to state that there is a primary name. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:56, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You're still not following. I'm making no argument about what the NASL team's article should be called. The fact is clear that when sources use the term "Ottawa Fury", they generally don't mean this defunct PDL team. As such we shouldn't be sending readers to the PDL team when they type in "Ottawa Fury".--Cúchullain t/ c 22:05, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You're still not following me. This team is named Ottawa Fury. The NASL Team is named Ottawa Fury FC. The fact is clear that when sources don't use the term consistently they generally don't have a clue what they're talking about and are seeking direction from a media person at the club and over time, a common name will emerge. Until then we should not do anything to this article.
 * To support my claim I'll look at your first link: Then in the sidebar on the left-hand side we see
 * Intensity marks Day 1 of Ottawa Fury FC camp
 * Fury players making adjustments to Canada except the caption there lists Ottawa Fury FC
 * Da Costa secures tryout
 * Ottawa Fury FC hometown keeper Chad Bush feels the presuure
 * Ottawa Fury defence full of energy The article opens, "The Ottawa Fury FC"
 * Ottawa Fury loading up on keepers article opens "There’s no shortage of talent between the pipes on the Ottawa Fury FC’s training camp roster".
 * Ottawa Fury shows off its spiritual side Atrilc opens "As he loaded balls into a mesh bag at the end of Ottawa Fury FC practice".
 * RedBlacks sign French radio deal
 * So I'm sure that over time a common name will emerge, but that hasn't happened yet. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:37, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Walter, you are conflating two distinct issues: WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:COMMONNAME. Cuchullain's argument is that the primary topic/meaning of "Ottawa Fury" is the new NASL club.  You are arguing that the common name of the NASL club is "Ottawa Fury FC".  However, your argument doesn't actually refute Cuchullain's point.  Lots of words are the primary topic something that has a different common name.  For instance, the primary topic of USA is the country in the Americas, even though the common name for the country is the United States and the official name is United States of America.  Lots of other things are also known as "USA", officially or otherwise, but more often than not when someone types USA into the search bar they are looking for the country.  Hence USA redirects to United States.  In this case, when people says "Ottawa Fury", the sources Cuchullain links above show that they usually mean the new NASL club, and no longer the defunct PDL club.  And what their WP:OFFICIALNAME is is not relevant to titling discussions.  TDL (talk) 23:11, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No I'm not. The primary topic has not yet been established. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:58, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * "If there is no primary topic, the term should be the title of a disambiguation page". TDL (talk) 00:07, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I am going to hold my anger but I will quote more material from PRIMARYTOPIC:
 * Determining a primary topic
 * There are no absolute rules for determining whether a primary topic exists and what it is.
 * Now please stop your insidious talking down to me and read the whole guideline instead of the bits that you like. We have to weigh both current usage and long-term significance. 01:28, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm confident no one intended to upset you, we're just trying to get on the same page, these are pretty basic guidelines. At this point we've provided quite a bit of evidence that the defunct PDL incarnation is not the primary topic of the term "Ottawa Fury" (and it seems to indicate that the NASL incarnation is primary). Do you have some evidence that the PDL team is the primary topic?--Cúchullain t/ c 03:22, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

 * Support, as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of "Ottawa Fury" is now the NASL club, though I agree that Ottawa Fury (PDL) is a more precise, recognizable, natural, concise and consistent disambiguation over a date range. This page should then either be redirected to Ottawa Fury FC or that article moved here.  TDL (talk) 23:11, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You may think you have, but you clearly have not. No redirects should happen until the season is well under way, because if a month after the season starts I have to undo all this it will be a waste of everyone's time here. If it should be redirected, it should be to the DAB. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:30, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

 * Comment - The reason why there's an article titled Orange County Blues (PDL) is because they're currently playing in the PDL, but there's also team with the same name that is currently playing in the USL Pro. Just like last season with VSI Tampa Bay FC.  However, unlike both those teams this team folded so moving this page to Ottawa Fury (PDL) doesn't make any sense. – Michael (talk) 07:39, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * However it's not clear if the junior teams will operate as "Ottawa Fury", "Ottawa Fury SC" or "Ottawa Fury FC" and until that is known, we're speculating about where to move what. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:20, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Michael, the issue is we've shown sources do use the form "Ottawa Fury" for the NASL team, and they do it much more frequently than they ever refer to the PDL team. In fact I couldn't find any remotely recent sources that mentioned the PDL incarnation except in relation to NASL team. Even that one doesn't distinguish the two incarnations by the presence or absence of "FC". Some move is necessary, as the defunct PDL team is clearly not the primary topic for this name.--Cúchullain t/ c 13:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Again sources also use "Ottawa Fury FC" and so there is no need for a move at this point. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * There is, since this isn't the primary topic of the term "Ottawa Fury".--Cúchullain t/ c 16:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll say this one more time. The season has not started. The media are either used to calling the team by its old name or the media person from the new club is trying to imply continuity (and rightly so) between the old club and the new one and so there will be some overlap until the season is well underway. There is no reason to move articles until the season has started. This discussion is too soon. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:04, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Which is precisely why this page should at the very least become a disambig until there is a clearly defined primary topic for the name "Ottawa Fury". Your analysis of why people are referring to the NASL club as the "Ottawa Fury" is quite irrelevant.  The fact is that they are.  The only scenario under which this article should remain at this title is if you can show that for the PDL team "it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term" or "if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term."  Cúchullain has presented compelling evidence that the PDL team isn't the primary topic of the term "Ottawa Fury".  To date, you haven't presented any evidence that it is.  Do you have any?  TDL (talk) 01:09, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Which is precisely why nothing should happen until we know something certain. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:19, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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Garnet
I can't seem to match the colour Garnet. I know it a maroon shade but I can't seem to get the right Hex#. - Coppercanuck (talk) 15:49, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've taken the hex that uOttawa uses from http://web5.uottawa.ca/assets-templates/themes/03/main.css Double Blue  (Talk) 19:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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Ive placed a pov tag here. Theres a few issues with this article, that seems to use alot of unsourced events to declare teams the most succeful or best. The article could use a bit of trimming. Willing to discuss further Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Oak Brook, Illinois

Oak Brook in Cook County?
I noticed the recent change of Oak Brook belonging in Du Page and Cook counties. I'm pretty sure it is not in any part of Cook county. I also checked the references and the links don't work. Anyone want to check up on this? Frankster200277 (talk) 10:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This screams of original research, but comparing the two boundary maps, I see no overlap. Also, my quick Google search produced no mention of the two overlapping. This is the boundary map for Oak Brook and the boundary map for Cook County. It appears they share a boundary along I-294, with no overlap. Cheers Dkriegls (talk) 20:00, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So part of it is in Cook County or not? And there is an inconsistency.  The description says it is in Du Page and Cook but the right hand column only says Du Page.  That should be remedied.

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 * The above message was sent by me, Frankster200277, but my computer logged me off for some reason.

Frankster200277 (talk) 07:29, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, part of Oak Brook is in Cook. Despite what you are looking at, there is a sliver on the Cook County side, but I don't think it is occupied. If you don't believe me, go to a law library and check CCH's state tax table, which will show Oak Brook as having DuPage and Cook rates. It would be interesting to know if any of the land is privately owned and if any Cook taxes are paid in Oak Brook, but either way, Oak Brook technically has a Cook component. -Rrius (talk) 08:07, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Here's a roundabout way of proving it. Go to this site and select "COOK" from the "Search By County" option and click "GO". Then, you will be able to see that Oak Brook is listed as one of the towns in Cook County. I'm sure if you searched the Census site you would find the same thing since the dead link you complained about was to a government-run census site. -Rrius (talk) 08:14, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * See, I was right: -Rrius (talk) 08:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Nice detective work Rrius. Cheers Dkriegls (talk) 08:47, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. I knew painstakingly updating loose-leaf sheets in the CCH binders would come in handy some day! -Rrius (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for fixing the reference and doing extra research. I added Cook County to the right hand column to be consistent with the description.

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Merger
I propose that clock rate be merged with this article. There is no reason to have a separate article on something that ought to be a paragraph (at best) in this one. -- uberpenguin

Help me understand how the Canal Lock fits into this article??

I agree with this suggestion, there is a tendency for articles on digital computers and on digital circuits to be created independently, when the concept they are discussing is the same. This is a classic example, where the computer article is rather less general than the electronics article, and both would benefit from the merger.Sangwine 11:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an expert in computer jargon and when looking at specs "clock rate" was useful. "Clock signal" I wouldn't have guessed at in a million years. So I'm not always in favour of combining articles if it makes it hard to get the quick definition of "clock rate" that I needed as a novice. I don't support the merger, but if written properly I don't object to it either.

I also don't think it should be merged. The thing is that merging it would be correct in addressing computer pros but the talk about square waves in the "clock signal" article was not the work of a novice, whereas the "clock rate" page was easily understandable. But again if it were written properly, no problem.

As an electronics graduate 20 years ago, and a computer professional now, I'd say these warrant seperate articles. Clock rate is very widely understood as "how fast is my chip" whereas clock signal much lower-level - as reflacted in the 2 articles. I'd say cross-reference but don't merge.

I agree with the last statement, clock rate is a sub-topic of clock signal, and e.g. it's mentioned deep down in the article. Since the suggestion to merge has been made nearly a year a ago and nobody found a feasible way to merge, I drop the merge suggestion and refer to clock rate where it's mentioned in the clock signal article.--NoSoftwarePatents 11:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Except that mostly isn't true. Clock rate can really only be used for comparing different grades of the same processor.  For exactly the reasons given in this article, you can't directly compare different processors by clock rate alone. Gah4 (talk) 02:01, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

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'''In some early microprocessors such as the National Semiconductor IMP-16 family, a multi-phase clock was used. In the case of the IMP-16, the clock had four phases, each 90 degrees apart, in order to synchronize the operations of the processor core and its peripherals. Most modern microprocessors and microcontrollers use a single-phase clock, however.'''

A single-phase clock only has one state to be in, effectively making it a constant signal. Isn't it better to talk of a two-phase clock? --Abdull 09:04, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

In synchronous circuits, a "two-phase clock" refers to clock signals distributed on 2 wires. Traditionally one wire is called "phase 1" or "phi1", the other wire carries the "phase 2" or "phi2" signal     . A "4-phase clock" has clock signals distributed on 4 wires (, four phase logic ). Most modern synchronous circuits do, in fact, use what is called a "single phase clock" -- in other words, they transmit all clock signals on 1 wire. Please help us make this article less misleading and confusing. --75.37.227.177 04:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Distribution
I suggest merging clock distribution network as a sub-heading into this clock signal article. There seems to be a lot of overlap in content between the two articles, apparently because they are very closely related concepts. --DavidCary (talk) 18:06, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Prefer not to merge
Having done research on clock distribution networks, I strongly prefer this page to be separate. The main reason is that the optimization of clock distribution networks is a field of its own, and is not fully understood even by industry experts (who have excellent background in circuits, but not so much in optimization). For example, see http://archive.sigda.org/ispd/contests/10/ispd10cns.html. Of course, the current article on clock networks is missing material on optimization, but this can be fixed.

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dynamic logic
There is a statment: The 6800 has a minimum clock rate of 100 kHz while the 8080 can be halted. which is true, but misleading. The 8080 uses dynamic, and so also has a minimum clock frequency. It does have the ability to halt, and so stop executing instructions, even though the clock doesn't stop. The Z80, on the other hand, has static logic, and allows clock rates down to 0Hz. Also, processors with internal (PLL based) clock multipliers have a minimum rate for the PLL to lock, even if they use static logic. Should we have a section explaining dynamic logic? Gah4 (talk) 02:06, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

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Victor Barton

Victor Alexander Barton (6 October 1867 — 23 March 1906) was an English first-class cricketer, association footballer, and soldier. Beginning his cricket with the Royal Artillery Cricket Club, his performances bought him to the attention of Kent, for whom he would play first-class cricket for in 1889 and 1890. Barton bought himself out of the Royal Artillery in 1891 in order to pursue a professional career with his native-county Hampshire, who were at the time a second-class county. Prior to his arrival at Hampshire, Barton toured South Africa with an English team captained by Walter Read, and played in the tours final match against South Africa, which was later retrospectively afforded Test status. He played for Hampshire between 1892 and 1902, and following their reelevation to first-class status for the 1895 season, Barton appeared in over 140 first-class matches for the county, scoring over 6,000 runs and taking 130 wickets.

As a footballer, he made one appearance for Southampton St Mary's as a goalkeeper in the 1892–93 Hampshire Senior Cup.

Beginnings with Kent
The son of Benjamin Barton, a soldier, he was born in October 1867 at Netley, Hampshire. Barton served in the British Army, holding the rank of bombardier in the Royal Artillery (RA). Barton produced a number of strong performances for the Royal Artillery Cricket Club (RACC) in the first half of the 1889, including against the Gentlemen of the Marylebone Cricket Club at Lord's, where Wisden described his batting as "a superb performance" as he scored 91 out of a total of 167 in the RACC first innings and 102 out of 171 in their second innings. This caught the attention of Kent, who taking advantage of him being garrisoned in the county at Woolwich, and thus eligible to play for the county, offered him a trial. In July of that season, he made his debut in first-class cricket for Kent against Yorkshire at Maidstone, with him making six further appearances that season. He played an important role in Kent's unlikely victory over Nottinghamshire in the final match of the season at Beckenham, which resulted in a three–way County Champion tie between Lancashire, Nottinghamshire and Surrey.

He played for Kent in the first season of the County Championship, making three appearances, plus an additional appearance against the touring Australians. Although he was unable to find form for Kent, he headed the bowling averages for the RACC, taking 89 wickets at 9.60 runs per wicket. Having shown early promise for Kent, he was not re-engaged beyond the 1890 season. Amongst the causes of his intermittent appearances for Kent over his two seasons with the club was the necessity for Kent to play at least three amateurs, and sometimes as many as six or seven (particularly during the Canterbury Cricket Week) limited his appearances.

Move to Hampshire
Barton bought himself out of the RA in 1891 in order to move to Hampshire as a professional; Hampshire were then a second-class county with aspirations to recover the first-class status they had lost in 1885. Early on in his move back to Hampshire, he coached at Winchester College for a few weeks. During the winter which followed the 1891 season, Barton toured South Africa with an English team captained by Walter Read, which was one of two simultaneous England team tours, the other touring Australia. He played in ten non-first-class matches on the tour, before playing in the final match against South Africa at Cape Town, which was later retrospectively afforded Test status. In a match which England won by an innings and 189 runs, Barton batted once, making 23 runs before he was dismissed by Charles Mills. Barton is the only regular member of the RA to have played Test cricket.

Upon his return to England, he played his first season for Hampshire, topping both the batting and bowling averages. Hampshire regained their first-class status in October 1894, with Barton playing in Hampshire's first ever County Championship match against Somerset at Taunton the following season, which Hampshire won by 11 runs. In sixteen first-class matches in 1895, he scored 707 runs and made four half centuries. The following season, Barton was given the opportunity to bowl, taking 17 wickets at an average of 30.29, while scoring 795 runs at an average of 29.44; he scored his maiden first-class century with 112 runs against Warwickshire. He nearly reached the landmark of 1,000 first-class runs for the season in 1897, with 971 runs at an average of 27.74 from 21 matches. It was in 1897 that he played for the South in the North v South fixture. Barton would eventually pass 1,000 runs for the season in 1899, in addition to taking 38 wickets at an average of 36.15. Prior to the 1900 season he recovered from a serious illness, which the Hampshire Independent noted had "left his life hanging in the balance". Russell Bencraft and the Hampshire committee sent Barton to Bournemouth for recuperation following the illness.

Despite his pre-season ill-health, Barton had a successful season in 1900. He passed 1,000 runs in a season for the second time, while also making a double-century (205) against Sussex at Hove; he was the first Hampshire professional to make a double-century. Barton developed into an all-rounder later in his career, taking 38 wickets in 1900 at an average of 36.15, and 51 wickets at an average of 22.52 in 1901; in 1901, he took two five wicket hauls and claimed his career best figures of 6 for 28 against Surrey. Such was his success in 1901, Barton was selected to play for the Players in the Gentlemen v Players fixture at The Oval. He was awarded a benefit match ahead of the 1902 season, which the Hampshire committee arranged to take place against Surrey in July 1902; in his benefit match, he took a five wicket haul (5 for 33) in Surrey's second innings. He made twelve first-class appearances in 1902, before poor eyesight forced him to retire.

Barton made 143 first-class appearances for Hampshire, scoring 6,204 runs at an average of 25.01, making six centuries alongside thirty half centuries. Wisden described his batting style as "attractive", whilst The Times remarked that "the chief characteristic of his batting was the great power of his own driving". Later in his career, Barton developed into an all-rounder, taking 130 first-class wickets for Hampshire at an average of 29.37, with three five wicket hauls. He typically fielded at mid-on, taking 101 catches across his first-class career. Summarising his cricket career, The Times wrote: "[he] never took a very high place in the cricket world, but he was a most useful bat and a quite a good change bowler".

Football career
Barton also played football as a goalkeeper, being invited by Russell Bencraft (who was honorary secretary at Hampshire, and soon to be president of Southampton St. Mary's) invited him to join the team as a reserve goalkeeper. He made one appearance for Southampton St. Mary's in the semi-final of the Hampshire Senior Cup in February 1893, due to an injury to regular goalkeeper Ralph Ruffell. In the match, played at the County Ground, Southampton defeated Portsmouth 2–0. Barton was injured by the time of the final on 11 March and was replaced by the now fit again Ralph Ruffell, with Southampton losing 2–1 to local rivals Freemantle.

Life outside sport
In partnership with former Southampton St. Mary's footballer Jack Dorkin, Barton ran a sports outfitters business in London Road, Southampton. He was also briefly involved in the manufacture of cricket bats, before becoming the landlord of the Alexandra Hotel in Southampton, where he died on 23 March 1906, aged 38, from pneumonia; he had been in declining health for several years. He was survived by his wife, Louisa, and one daughter. His funeral took place at Southampton Old Cemetery and was well attended by players and officials from Hampshire. Remembering Barton, Russell Bencraft described him as the most "unassuming, gentlemanly cricketer".

title: Victor Barton


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Mato

Mato may refer to:

People

 * Ana Mato (born 1959), Spanish politician
 * Jakup Mato (1934–2005), Albanian publicist
 * Mato Miloš (born 1993), Croatian footballer
 * Mato Neretljak (born 1979), Croatian footballer
 * Mato Valtonen (born 1955), Finnish actor

Places

 * Mato, a parish of Ponte de Lima, Portugal
 * Matorral, Portuguese scrublands formed on Cambrian schists
 * Mato Grosso, a state in western Brazil
 * Mato Grosso do Sul, a state in western Brazil
 * Mato Paha, the Lakotaname for Bear Butte, South Dakota

Other uses

 * MAŤO, the Slovak 8-bit personal computer
 * Matō, the surname of several characters in the visual novel Fate/stay night
 * Matō Station, a railway station in Nikkō, Tochigi Prefecture, Japan
 * Mató, a Catalan cheese
 * Mato music, a Music of French Guiana
 * Mato language, Austronesian language of Papua New Guinea

title: Mato


text:
Son of Sam (song)

"Son of Sam" is a song by American singer-songwriter Elliott Smith. It was released on April 11, 2000, by record label DreamWorks as the second and final single from his fifth studio album, Figure 8.

Content
The song was not about the real life "Son of Sam", serial killer David Berkowitz. Smith explained, "It's not about the serial killer. I'm not sure exactly what it's about because it's just sort of like telling someone a dream you had last night. There are some destructive figures in it, 'Son of Sam', Shiva... but Shiva's also associated with creativity... I'm not sure... it's just an impressionistic song about destruction and creativity, I guess, if it's about anything."

Release
"Son of Sam" was released on April 11, 2000 and is the second and final single released from Figure 8. The single did not chart in the United States but reached number 55 in the UK Singles Chart.

An acoustic version appears as a B-side on Smith's first single from Figure 8, "Happiness".

Music video
A music video was directed by Autumn de Wilde for the song, featuring intermittent black and white stop frames. Smith is seen following a red balloon that moves by itself; this concept resembles that of the 1956 French film The Red Balloon, although de Wilde notes in the photo-book Elliott Smith that the video was inspired by the 1962 French film La jetée. The video opens with whispers by Pascal Nabet Meyer and Autumn de Wilde.

In an interview Smith said, "The person who did 'Son of Sam' is a friend of mine. I didn't want some hot shit Hollywood guy to make God knows what. My friend Autumn, who is a photographer, had never made a film before, but she was very interested in doing it, so she came up with an idea. It was fun because I knew her, and I liked and respected her pictures."

Live performances
Elliott performed "Son of Sam" live on tour in support of Figure 8, both with an electric band and solo with an acoustic guitar. Notably, he performed it with a band on Late Night with Conan O'Brien on April 21, 2000.

Track listing

 * CD

 * 1) "Son of Sam"
 * 2) "A Living Will"
 * 3) "Figure 8" (Bob Dorough)

 * 7" vinyl

 * 1) "Son of Sam"
 * 2) "A Living Will"

Personnel

 * Elliott Smith – vocals, guitars, bass, drums, piano, organ

title: Son of Sam (song)


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Talk:Trans

Trans
Trans is a Latin root prefix. No example words will be given here, check other places

I would like to see a "Trans" article unto itself. Not just directly related to transgender and transexual  --Sdowney

Whoever wrote the chicken thing in the transexual part was extremely rude. I changed it to say that trans stood for transexual, but didn't put anything else.--Jademushroom 02:27, 14 September 2006 (UTC).

The cis and trans section in molecular biology suggests that both cis and trans actions are operating in both examples. For example, RNA polymerase is an external factor binding to the promoter sequence, although the DNA recruiting it is described as a cis interaction. Please clarify!

Ά —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.92.154.120 (talk) 07:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

 * I just discovered that there are separate articles for trans-acting and cis-acting. Therefore I have simplified the molecular biology entry in this disambiguation page and included links to the above mentioned pages. I hope the distinction between cis and trans in the context of molecular biology is now clearer. Boghog2 (talk) 04:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Sports
Added FC Narva Trans. Though I understand this disambiguation deals with 'trans' ordinarily as a prefix, 'FC' stands for football club and Narva is the geographical township leaving Trans as the only individualising denomination. Searchers may end up here looking for the team (esp. non-English speaking). Hope everyone understands. Stalwart111 (talk) 06:16, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Further: It is referred to simply as Trans regularly including at Meistriliiga clubs 2009. Stalwart111 (talk) 06:31, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Dab page guidelines
I have attempted to edit this page according to the guidelines for disambiguation pages found at Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). Dab pages are not articles and their purpose is not to explain, define, or give examples of the terms, but merely to assist the user who types in "trans" find the article he or she was seeking. Therefore, if something is not commonly known as "trans", it ought not be on this dab page. Articles should not be listed simply because they begin with "trans". If you think Wikipedia needs an article explaning the concept of "trans", then this page could be moved to Trans (disambiguation) and the concept article could appear at Trans. As it stands now, however, this is a dab page. SlackerMom (talk) 21:25, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Trans as in a "trans" double bond isomer in chemistry or a "trans" acting factor in molecular biology are commonly used terms within their respective fields and therefore should be included in this disambiguation page. The identical term "trans" has very different meanings in these two fields and therefore is a source of confusion when chemists talk with molecular biologists.  Boghog2 (talk) 23:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

 * This article (as presently worded) disambiguates the word "trans" and the prefix "trans-". I think it is the nature of a DAB page to provide links to articles where this prefix is used (I've jumped here before to find the chemistry definition, so I'm sure others are here hunting for similar articles that use the prefix). One solution is to make another DAB page Trans- (disambiguation) or something, however, I think it would be appropriate to keep the prefix entries here in a section. I do agree that the previous incarnation of the disambiguation page was too article-like and wordy (which is why I added the cleanup tags). The concept of "trans" could stay in first paragraph, but should be at most a paragraph in length. I don't think a separate article describing the concept is necessary. + m t  23:54, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

 * I think it looks fine as it is now. If the entries here are useful in helping people negotiate different uses of "trans" in the sciences, then I think that's a good reason to keep them.  It's important that we don't allow the page to fill up with every article that begins with "trans", and I'm concerned that might happen if we don't keep an eye on it.  I'm not a "science person", so I will defer to those who understand its scientific uses better. SlackerMom (talk) 14:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

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i lisen one trck trans and i thing is nice song for us.bue bue.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.73.51.7 (talk) 07:06, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Requested move 4 May 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to not move. The general consensus is that transgender and cisgender do not have the requisite primacy for the abbreviations "trans" and "cis" to be primary redirects to them. (closed by non-admin page mover)  SITH   (talk)   11:48, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

– Trans should redirect to Transgender and Cis to Cisgender. According to PageViews, Transgender and Cisgender are much, much more popular than any of the alternatives. The only article that comes even kind of close to either of them is Trans fat, but even then it's several times less popular than Transgender, and trans fat is not generally shortened to trans. Wandering Wanda (they/them) (t/c) 10:05, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Trans → Trans (disambiguation)
 * Cis → Cis (disambiguation)

|Trans_(Stockhausen)|Trans:_Gender_and_Race_in_an_Age_of_Unsettled_Identities|Cis-trans_isomerism|Trans-lunar_injection|Trans-acting|TRANS.COM Transgender vs. alts 1 – |Trans_fat|Trans,_Mayenne|Trans,_Switzerland|Trans_(film)|Trans_(Festival)|Trans_Corp|Trans_TV|Trans7|Trans_(album) Transgender vs. alts 2 – [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2018-05&end=2019-04&pages=Cisgender|Cis,_Trentino|Cis,_Świętokrzyskie_Voivodeship|Cis,_Warmian-Masurian_Voivodeship|Cis_(mathematics)|Cis_(beetle)|Cis–trans_isomerism|Cis-regulatory_element|C♯_(musical_note). Cisgender vs. alts] Wandering Wanda (they/them) (t/c) 10:05, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

 * Oppose both - Slang shortenings of words do not a primaryredirect make when there are so many alternatives. App, Coke, Info, Limo, Memo, and Quad have about the same number of alternative meanings, and are slang that are likely far more common use, but are not primaryredirects. Page views comparison is false equivalence. These moves might make sense if you're in a particular bubble, but not in the English-speaking world at large. -- Netoholic @ 20:21, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * They aren't slang terms. No dictionary lists them under slang or informal. (Trans 1, 2, 3. Cis 1, 2, 3.)
 * Counterexamples of abbrs that are primary redirects: U.S. (37 entries on disambig page), BBC (37), ammo (4), rehab (30), veggie (6), flu (22), fridge (4), ad (73 at AD (disambiguation)), bike (11), cello (17)
 * Both terms are used in reliable mainstream sources.
 * Associated Press Official accused of harassing trans student gets job back
 * New York Times casting cis actors in trans roles
 * BBC: Leo: Becoming a Trans Man
 * New York Times Read These 3 Books on Trans Rights and Gender Identity
 * American Journal of Preventive Medicine trans men were more likely than cis women to have an up-to-date mammography test
 * These moves might make sense if you're in a particular bubble Please just focus on my suggestion and its merits. Wandering Wanda (they/them) (t/c) 21:25, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * See also Einstein, which redirects to Albert Einstein even though Einstein (disambiguation) has 30 entries. Specifically cited in WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Wandering Wanda (they/them) (t/c) 22:57, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , your rebuttal examples are horrible:
 * U.S. and US are overwhelmingly a reference to the United States. US (disambiguation) is the related DAB page and no other topic uses "U.S." (with the dots). Most entries are either "Us" or far less commonly-used abbreviations.
 * BBC is a primary, not a redirect - totally doesn't apply.
 * ammo is universally linked to ammunition. All entries on Ammo (disambiguation) relate to ammunition.
 * rehab was changed recently (undiscussed) and the editor failed to put a hatnote on his chosen target. A mistake I've corrected by reverting to a redirect to the DAB page.
 * veggie is universally linked to vegetable. Even the Veggie (disambiguation) redirect to Vegetable (disambiguation), and nothing on that uses "veggie" as a title.
 * flu is universally linked to influenza. Almost all entries on Flu (disambiguation) relate to the disease.
 * fridge is universally linked to refrigerator. All entries on Fridge (disambiguation) relate to the appliance.
 * ad is universally linked to advertising. No other entries on AD (disambiguation) use "ad". (the domain extension is actually ".ad")
 * bike is heavily linked to bicycle. 4 of 6 entries on Bike (disambiguation) relate to the vehicle, the others are far less used.
 * cello is a primary article, not a dab page like trans/Cis - totally doesn't apply.
 * Einstein is to dominantly associated with Albert as to be unavoidable. We're also much more likely to do this with personal names than we are common words like trans and cis that have multiple meanings.
 * I of course checked most of these prior to posting my rationale. But I couldn't imagine anyone would try to use them as evidence of different handling. -- Netoholic @ 02:42, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The words trans and cis are, on their own, dominantly associated with transgender and cisgender. Type trans into Google. Right now, I mean it. If you insist on talking about bubbles, fine, let's pop yours. Look through the results. Tell me how long it takes you before you get to a page that isn't about gender identity. If you find one tell me how long before you find a second.
 * I'll also point to this guideline at WP:TITLE: The general approach is that whatever readers might type in the search box, they are guided as swiftly as possible to the topic they might reasonably be expected to be looking for. A user sits down at her computer, types in trans, and pushes enter. What is she probably searching for? Trans-lunar injection? Trans-acting? Of course not. First of all because hardly anyone is searching for those two things (see: PageView statistics) and second because if she wanted trans-something-or-other she would've typed trans-something-or-other. WanderingWanda (talk) 03:15, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Absolutely no evidence to support this. Your page views are comparing apples to oranges. Let's look at Google Ngrams for both.... whoops. -- Netoholic @  05:18, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

 * Neutral on __->__(disambiguation), oppose __ -> __gender As the page currently stands this is effectively a disambiguation page, however in the history of the page it has also been at least in part about the Latin word.  Still, that could be covered by an article like __ (Latin).  Given the wide range of topics it's not clear trans and cis should be redirected to __gender pages.  It's unlikely someone searching for transgender would get confused if trans went to a disabiguation page instead of "transgender".  Interestingly, the spell check of my web browser doesn't recognize "transgender" and suggests "trans-gender" or "trans gender".  Springee (talk) 00:14, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

 * Support both. I was convinced by the combination of the Einstein example (I don't think someone searching for Einstein would get confused by a disambiguation page either, but so many more people search for it than the next most more popular thing "Einstein" could refer to or the full name "Albert Einstein" that the utility of a direct link is obvious) and knowledge of the fact that almost all references to cis or trans people today use the terms "cis" and "trans". As further support, I looked up what Gay currently goes to, and while it's not a redirect for Homosexuality it does go directly to a page about the term instead of to Gay (disambiguation). LokiTheLiar (talk) 01:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * the fact that almost all references to cis or trans people today use the terms - if this is a FACT, citing supporting sources with evidence would be easy. I think you might presume this to be the case, but its only true in specific bubbles of discussion. -- Netoholic @ 02:42, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose both - There are too many cities, math terms and films to make these slang terms into redirects. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose both – Cis/trans are a widely used terms in chemistry and molecular biology. Boghog (talk) 08:46, 5 May 2019 (UTC) There are many, many uses of the terms cis and trans, most of which have nothing to do with gender. Even though the gender related terms many be the single most important, they are still tiny compared to the over all totals.  The Ngram graphic Netoholic linked above is a dramatic illustration of this. Boghog (talk) 18:20, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Support both per WanderingWanda. As a side note, I'm unclear why people are referring to them as slang terms but if that informs their opinions I worry they may be misguided. Rab V (talk) 09:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose moving cis Searching "cis" on Google books, I found that 3 out of the first 200 results used "cis" to refer to gender, and 3 others had no preview but seemed to be about trans issues. I looked at every single one of the 1000 results google scholar returned for the term, and none were about gender. Restricting the search to only papers published in 2019, scholar let me see 980 papers, in which I found:

 * one paper each with "Hetero-cis-normativity", "cis- and heteronormativity", and "cis/heterosexuality"
 * three studies which classified participants: as "cis-male", "cis-female", "trans-male", and "trans-female" (AIDS patients); as "bigender", "cis woman", "gender queer", "trans woman", "two-spirit", and "woman" (people experiencing microaggressions for bisexuality); and as "cis-female" sex workers and their "cis-male" partners, respectively.
 * Two which hyphenated "cis-gender" or "cis-gendered"
 * An essay in which the author self-described as "cis/queer/woman"
 * one source about "trans and cis women athletes"; another about the structural violence facing queer Canadian immigrants, which critiqued "white cis gay male subjectivity"; and third the book "Camp TV: Trans Gender Queer Sitcom History", which talked about characters being "presumed cis".

 * I decided to check JSTOR as well, since the GScholar results were overwhelmingly related to science or medicine and JSTOR is weighted more towards the humanities. Searching across all time, 10 of the first 1000 results had to do with gender; of these, the ones I could access used "cis" in the expressions "cis men" or "cis women". Restricting the search to 2019 yielded 219 items, none of which involved science. Here are the ones involving gender:

(Midway through counting these I started ignoring instances of "cis-gender", which are mostly bad OCR)
 * 12 chapters in a book of non-binary memoirs
 * 5 chapters in a book on how "cis white men" have had too much influence in the field of ethnography
 * 4 chapters in a book on intersex experiences
 * 3 chapters from a memoir on being a gay christian
 * 3 chapters from a forthcoming book on black feminism in Europe
 * 2 chapters in a symposium on digital cultures: one person says "white, cis-, het- man", and another quotes him in responding
 * 2 chapters in another book of black queer memoirs
 * A chapter from a book on gay bodybuilding
 * A chapter in a book on radical political writing
 * A book chapter on the ethics of penis transplants
 * A chapter in a book on queer writing studies which calls one of the author's naysayers a "white, het-cis senior faculty member"
 * An article on alt-right memes
 * A review of a young adult book about shipwrecks?
 * A book on gay men which used the expression "straight cis man" once
 * A chapter in a book on black masculinity in which the author self-identifies as "a cis female".
 * A chapter on "Orange Is the New Black" in a book on feminist theories of menstruation.
 * 2 portions of an interview on sex trafficking: the interviewee says "Our clients are mostly women (both cis and transgender)" and something about feminism being focussed on "(cis-)women"
 * A book chapter of someone saying he thought it was wrong to label people as cis
 * A book that says transgender activists coined the term "cis women" as part of asserting their rights
 * A book about bullying in schools that says that in a survey on gender, 1 out of 124 respondents self-identified as "cis"

 * Overall, one of the 19 journal articles published in 2019 used "cis-male", four more used "cis-gender" (probably bad OCR), 14 weren't about gender. If I've counted correctly (I may be off by a few), of the 132 distinct books/edited collections, 19 were bad OCR of the name "Francis"; 18 were verified to contain "cis" used to indicate gender, typically "cis man", "cis women", or "cis female"; 11 more were bad OCR of "cisgender"; and the remaining 84 mainly dealt with other things called CIS, like the commonwealth of independent states.
 * I haven't yet done enough research on "trans" to !vote, but what I've seen so far looks similar. Edit: Oh wait, wouldn't WP:TLAs apply here? I don't know if it's kosher to suggest this in the middle of another move proposal, but I would support merging CIS into Cis. Cheers, gnu 57 15:36, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Quick comment on trans: 10/1000 alltime GScholar papers with "trans" are about gender. In 2019, 28/990. Cheers, gnu 57 00:01, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose both I do not see the overwhelming notability in favor of a slang term as opposed to the myriad other potential meanings of the word.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 01:17, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose both It is clear that there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here, so a disambiguation page is appropriate. shoy (reactions) 18:27, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose these moves 2601:541:4500:1760:791D:8E03:7E58:1DD7 (talk) 13:21, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose both Widely used terms with many significant meanings beyond gender, such as Cis-trans isomerism. Long-term significance must be considered. feminist (talk) 08:12, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Oppose both. While I recognize a large number of pageview statistics to the gender-related articles, these are primarily prefixes that don't mean much on their own (e.g. Sub). See the "Prefix" section for the Wiktionary articles for trans and cis. + m t  21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussion

 * , Please don't make changes such as these [], [] while discussing the page move. It comes across as PUSH and suggests that you are ignoring the consensus building process.  If this is a disambiguation page I certainly would not support those changes.  Based on your profile and edit history it's very clear that you find this topic to be important to you.  However, that doesn't mean we should give it special treatment in the disambiguation page.  Alternatively, if we look at the history of this page, the first definition should be the Latin definition then followed by alternative uses.  After all, the Latin is what the word means.  Anyway, remember that if your desired change is the correct one in the end then there is no reason to push too quickly.  Per your profile you have only been editing for a few months, remember, you don't have to do everything at once. Springee (talk) 05:06, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't think it had anything to do to with the move discussion one way or the other. Regardless of whether the move happens or doesn't happen, the most popular pages on the disambig page should probably be on top. That's not giving those subjects "special treatment", anymore than putting Albert Einstein at the top of Einstein disambiguation page is giving Albert special treatment. But I'm happy to wait until the move discussion is over to deal with the formatting of the disambig page. WanderingWanda (talk) 05:15, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Very bad form, and tactical. I've reverted. -- Netoholic @ 05:20, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed, bad form. It could be put under Other uses as slang terms, but never at the top of the disambiguation article. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Please assume good faith. WanderingWanda (talk) 06:46, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

 * A note that the pages cis and trans are surprisingly unpopular. Much less popular than the pages transgender and cisgender: |Transgender|Cis|Cisgender PageViews. Just thought it was interesting, I'm not pointing this because I think it supports the move. In fact it might do the opposite (if there's high reader interest in cisgender/transgender, but few readers are visiting cis/trans, perhaps that means that readers don't expect the pages cis/trans to give them info about cisgender/transgender topics.) WanderingWanda (talk) 17:04, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * This argument works both ways - the less that the trans/cis dab pages are used, the less it matters if we make them redirects you want them to be. Really, we do not want to make them WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs specifically because we would not want editors to use them in that way. Editors should use the full term in formal writing style, not only for presentation but for long-term accuracy. -- Netoholic @  18:50, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

 * Here's the thing, though: a disambiguation page is supposed to help in cases where a title refers to more than one subject covered by Wikipedia (WP:DAB). That is not the case with the scientific terms we're discussing. The word trans, on its own, does not mean cis–trans isomerism or trans fat, or trans-lunar injection, or trans-acting. No one would expect an article titled just "trans" to cover trans-lunar injection. Given the articles that currently exist, if the choice is between trans redirecting to the disambig page or redirecting to transgender, trans should redirect to transgender.
 * With that said, one possible compromise is the idea, that Springee brought up, of creating new articles about the latin terms cis and trans. I would be fine with these two hypothetical articles being the primary articles, provided they both had hatnotes that linked to cisgender and transgender respectively. WanderingWanda (talk) 17:42, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * re Thats because the article is about both cis and trans (isomers). Its like saying that trans (person) does not mean cis-trans-persons. But a compound could be cis, like cis-2-methylbutene. Christian75 (talk) 06:39, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

 * It is a little disheartening that people are continuing to use the word slang after it's been pointed out, more than once, that we are not discussing slang terms. (I even took the time to back this up with references.) I've put good faith effort into engaging with the other side throughout this discussion, and hope for the same in return. Whether intended or not, slang has certain connotations that don't apply here. It implies that the word is only used by certain in-groups (and that it might, therefore, be exclusionary), or that it's informal. In short, it implies that the word is not mainstream and not encyclopedic. None of that is true. I've pointed to several mainstream sources that use the word, for example. Look at the at the dictionary.com definition of trans: not only is not listed under slang or informal, the very first listed definition is transgender/transsexual. In fact it's essentially the only listed definition. (It puts scientific definitions of the word under trans-, not trans.) Look again at M-W's definition: again it's not listed as slang, and again transgender/transsexual is the #1 definition. WanderingWanda (talk) 20:58, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I will point you to the definition of "slang": Slang is language (words, phrases, and usages) of an informal register that members of particular in-groups favor (over the common vocabulary of a standard language) in order to establish group identity, exclude outsiders, or both. That sounds like it fits the word to a tee since it is informal, used by a group to establish group identity. "Transgender" is still used in a formal context and the shortening of the word has not grown to encompass all standard usage.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 23:43, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Not all words that are informal are slang. Furthermore, the word "trans" is commonly used in news sources and academic papers (see for example here and here) which would be very odd if it was slang, or even truly "informal". LokiTheLiar (talk) 23:54, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * That academic paper only uses the term "trans" in conjunction with "trans woman", or "trans gender", or transphobic. Not by itself. You could be correct in academic papers, but this one is a poor choice. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:25, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Wait, but of course it does. Trans is an adjective. It doesn't exist "by itself". It always modifies some other word. I think what you're trying to do here is an attempt to equate "trans woman" with the words transphobic and transgender, which are indeed not examples, in order to claim that usages like "trans women", "trans men", and "trans people" are invalid. But that doesn't make sense. The use of "trans-" as part of a compound word is different from "trans" the adjective. LokiTheLiar (talk) 14:44, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Vespa 400

Inspiiration

 * Is it me or is the Suzuki LC inspired by the Vespa 400 ???Hektor 21:47, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thay say it's isnpired by the Suzulight. // Liftarn

so many contradictory or questionable figures here...
So, is it 12hp or 18hp? Does it take 23 seconds to 40mph, or 25 to 50~55mph? (can't be both, can it, unless some kind of nitro kicks in to boost it the final 10-15mph in only 2 secs) and surely that gearbox info can't be right; synchro on reverse but not on 1st gear? Very few modern cars have a synchro reverse, because leaving it as crash-engagement is actually a safety feature. I'm going to change that last one, but which of the other figures are correct? Any of the 4 combinations are creditable given the car's size and aerodynamics... 193.63.174.10 (talk) 12:48, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Combatant Status Review Tribunal

CSRT and ARB use in articles
From the time that they were released starting in 2005, documents on Guantanamo detainees have been very important - and controversial - sources. I'd like to start two discussions about their use in articles on detainees. The first, under this heading, could be a broad discussion about how and when CSRT and ARB should be used as sources.

The only point I'll make initially is that it is now six years since the first documents were released. While at one time, these documents were the only public information available about most of the detainees, the situation has changed dramatically since then. Besides the many released detainees, who are now available for news sources to cover, journalist have used the release of names and basic details of all the detainees to track down more information about them. I hope that all of you know about Andy Worthington's work in this regard. But the more notable detainees have had news coverage published about them. Thus, the CSRT and ARB information has become less important over time.

I'm sure there are discussions already out there somewhere that deal with this subject directly. Please post links to them here if you know where they are. --Mnnlaxer (talk)

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Buk District, Gwangju

Buk District (Buk-gu) is a district situated in the northern part of the city of Gwangju, South Korea. It is similar to a ward in the United States. The district is by far the most populated district in Gwangju, and elects two lawmakers for the South Korean National Assembly. Gwangju Station is here.

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Children's Favourites

Junior Choice is a BBC Radio programme originally broadcast from 1967 until 1982 with Christmas specials from 2007 to present, with the exception of 2016. Originally broadcast on the BBC Light Programme on Saturday mornings from 9.10 to 9.55 (later, 9.00–10.00), and later BBC Radio 1, and BBC Radio 2, its precursor from 1952 was entitled Children's Choice, echoing the weekday Housewives' Choice, then from 1954, Children's Favourites.

The programme played requests from children of all ages. For the first 11 years of its run, the programme was introduced by Derek McCulloch, known as Uncle Mac. McCulloch's grandfatherly tone was quintessentially 'old-school' BBC. His opening words "Hello children, everywhere!", his catch-phrase was a modification of his much earlier closing words "Goodnight children, everywhere" on Children's Hour.

Children wrote in with requests often just to get their names mentioned on the radio. McCulloch ensured that all types of music were played whatever the majority had requested: not just children's pieces but a wide range of music from pop to hymns to the light classics. The signature tune until the mid-1960s was Puffin' Billy by Edward White played by the Melodi Light Orchestra.

Later versions
McCulloch made his last broadcast in 1965 and several other presenters were tried including Leslie Crowther. After BBC Radio 1 and BBC Radio 2 were launched, the show was renamed Junior Choice and simultaneously broadcast on both stations and Puffin' Billy was replaced by an instrumental version of the Seekers' hit Morningtown Ride played by Stan Butcher, from his 1966 album a His Birds and Brass, which remained the show's theme until Stewart's last show, the 2015 Christmas Day special. It was then revived on the 2020 and 2021 Christmas Specials with Anneka Rice.

In February 1968, Ed 'Stewpot' Stewart took over from Crowther and was the host for eleven years, attracting more than 17 million listeners. The style became less cosy and less reverent. As tastes changed, new favourites were added; pop records, as opposed to records specifically for children, were requested more frequently as the 1970s progressed. Among the records frequently played were "A Windmill in Old Amsterdam" by Ronnie Hilton, "Hello Muddah, Hello Fadduh" by Allan Sherman and "My Brother" by Terry Scott. The show was peppered with catch-phrase jingles such as "'Ello Darlin'", recorded by an unknown patient at a hospital in Billericay and "Happy Birthday to You" sung by an eight-year-old boy from a football club in Crosskeys, on the team coach after the match. The Ello Darlin jingle was featured until Stewart's last show in 2015, although Rice did revive it on the 2020 and 2021 Christmas editions.

In 1980, Stewart was replaced by Tony Blackburn but by this time the programme was seen as somewhat old-fashioned. The title Junior Choice was dropped in the early months of 1982, and the programme was renamed Tony Blackburn's Saturday/Sunday Show. The children's requests aspect of Junior Choice continued until September 1984 when Peter Powell replaced Blackburn as the presenter, and children's requests did not form part of the new programme, thereby removing the link with the "Uncle Mac" era.

In 2007 Stewart returned as host for a one-off programme during Radio 2's 40th Birthday celebrations in September and then what has become a regular Christmas special, starting on Christmas Eve that year, and then every Christmas Day from 2008 onwards (except 2016). The last of these featuring Stewart as host was in 2015, as he died suddenly just two weeks later, aged 74, on 9 January 2016.

After Stewart's death and a hiatus in 2016, the show returned on Christmas Day 2017, with Anneka Rice as its new host, who since then has presented more Christmas Day editions. For the 2018 and 2019 editions, Rice invited young listeners, named Junior Choosers, to call in to the show to play a game with her and pick a song. This was then dropped for the 2020 and 2021 editions, which reverted more to the feel of the Stewart era, and had some fellow Radio 2 presenters choosing a song to be played on the show.

Presenters

 * Derek McCulloch (1954–1965)
 * Leslie Crowther (1965–1968)
 * Ed Stewart (1968–1979, 2007 birthday special, Christmas editions, 2007–2015)
 * Tony Blackburn (1980–82, when Junior Choice name was dropped)
 * Anneka Rice (Christmas editions, 2017–present)

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Full-frame DSLR

A full-frame DSLR is a digital single-lens reflex camera (DSLR) with a 35 mm image sensor format (36 mm × 24 mm). Historically, 35 mm was one of the standard film formats, alongside larger ones, such as medium format and large format. The full-frame DSLR is in contrast to full-frame mirrorless interchangeable-lens cameras, and DSLR and mirrorless cameras with smaller sensors (for instance, those with a size equivalent to APS-C-size film), much smaller than a full 35 mm frame. Many digital cameras, both compact and SLR models, use a smaller-than-35 mm frame as it is easier and cheaper to manufacture imaging sensors at a smaller size. Historically, the earliest digital SLR models, such as the Nikon NASA F4 or Kodak DCS 100, also used a smaller sensor.

Kodak states that 35 mm film (note: in "Academy format", 21.0 mm × 15.2 mm) has the equivalent of 6K horizontal resolution, according to a senior vice president of IMAX. This equates to 10K horizontal resolution in full-frame size.

Use of 35 mm film-camera lenses
If the lens mounts are compatible, many lenses, including manual-focus models, designed for 35 mm cameras can be mounted on DSLR cameras. When a lens designed for a full-frame camera, whether film or digital, is mounted on a DSLR with a smaller sensor size, only the center of the lenses image circle is captured. The edges are cropped off, which is equivalent to zooming in on the center section of the imaging area. The ratio of the size of the full-frame 35 mm format to the size of the smaller format is known as the "crop factor" or "focal-length multiplier", and is typically in the range 1.3–2.0 for non-full-frame digital SLRs.

35 mm lenses
When used with lenses designed for full frame film or digital cameras, full-frame DSLRs offer a number of advantages compared to their smaller-sensor counterparts. One advantage is that wide-angle lenses designed for full-frame 35 mm retain that same wide angle of view. On smaller-sensor DSLRs, wide-angle lenses have smaller angles of view equivalent to those of longer-focal-length lenses on 35 mm film cameras. For example, a 24 mm lens on a camera with a crop factor of 1.5 has a 62° diagonal angle of view, the same as that of a 36 mm lens on a 35 mm film camera. On a full-frame digital camera, the 24 mm lens has the same 84° angle of view as it would on a 35 mm film camera.

If the same lens is used on both full-frame and cropped formats, and the subject distance is adjusted to have the same field of view (i.e., the same framing of the subject) in each format, depth of field (DoF) is in inverse proportion to the format sizes, so for the same f-number, the full-frame format will have less DoF. Equivalently, for the same DoF, the full-frame format will require a larger f-number (that is, a smaller aperture diameter). This relationship is approximate and holds for moderate subject distances, breaking down as the distance with the smaller format approaches the hyperfocal distance, and as the magnification with the larger format approaches the macro range.

There are optical quality implications as well—not only because the image from the lens is effectively cropped—but because many lens designs are now optimized for sensors smaller than 36 mm × 24 mm. The rear element of any SLR lens must have clearance for the camera's reflex mirror to move up when the shutter is released; with a wide-angle lens, this requires a retrofocus design, which is generally of inferior optical quality. Because a cropped-format sensor can have a smaller mirror, less clearance is needed, and some lenses, such as the EF-S lenses for the Canon APS-C sized bodies, are designed with a shorter back-focus distance; however, they cannot be used on bodies with larger sensors.

The full-frame sensor can also be useful with wide-angle perspective control or tilt/shift lenses; in particular, the wider angle of view is often more suitable for architectural photography.

While full-frame DSLRs offer advantages for wide-angle photography, smaller-sensor DSLRs offer some advantages for telephoto photography because the smaller angle of view of small-sensor DSLRs enhances the telephoto effect of the lenses. For example, a 200 mm lens on a camera with a crop factor of 1.5× has the same angle of view as a 300 mm lens on a full-frame camera. The extra "reach", for a given number of pixels, can be helpful in specific areas of photography such as wildlife or sports.

Lower size sensors also allow for the use of a wider range of lenses, since some types of optical impurities (specifically vignetting) are most visible around the edge of the lens. By only using the center of the lens, these impurities are not noticed. In practice, this allows for the use of lower cost lenses without corresponding loss of quality.

Finally, full frame sensors allow for sensor designs that result in lower noise levels at high ISO and a greater dynamic range in captured images. Pixel density is lower on full frame sensors. This means the pixels can be either spaced further apart from each other, or each photodiode can be manufactured at a slightly larger size. Larger pixel sizes can capture more light which has the advantage of allowing more light to be captured before over saturation of the photodiode. Additionally, less noise is generated by adjacent pixels and their emf fields with larger photodiodes or greater spacing between photodiodes. For a given number of pixels, the larger sensor allows for larger pixels or photosites that provide wider dynamic range and lower noise at high ISO levels. As a consequence, full-frame DSLRs may produce better quality images in certain high contrast or low light situations.

Production costs for a full-frame sensor can exceed twenty times the costs for an APS-C sensor. Only 20 full-frame sensors will fit on an 8 in silicon wafer, and yield is comparatively low because the sensor's large area makes it very vulnerable to contaminants—20 evenly distributed defects could theoretically ruin an entire wafer. Additionally, when full-frame sensors were first produced, they required three separate exposures during the photolithography stage, tripling the number of masks and exposure processes. Modern photolithography equipment now allows single-pass exposures for full-frame sensors, but other size-related production constraints remain much the same.

Some full-frame DSLRs intended mainly for professional use include more features than typical consumer-grade DSLRs, so some of their larger dimensions and increased mass result from more rugged construction and additional features as opposed to this being an inherent consequence of the full-frame sensor.

DSLRs

 * Canon EOS-1Ds (2002)
 * Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II (2004)
 * Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III (2007)
 * Canon EOS-1D X (2012)
 * Canon EOS-1D X Mark II (February 2, 2016)
 * Canon EOS-1D X Mark III (January 2020)
 * Canon EOS 5D (2005)
 * Canon EOS 5D Mark II (2008)
 * Canon EOS 5D Mark III (2 March 2012)
 * Canon EOS 5Ds / 5Ds R (February 6, 2015)
 * Canon EOS 5D Mark IV (August 2016)
 * Canon EOS 6D (17 September 2012)
 * Canon EOS 6D Mark II (30 June 2017)
 * Contax N Digital (2002)

 * Kodak DCS Pro 14n (2003)

 * Kodak DCS Pro SLR/c (2004)
 * Kodak DCS Pro SLR/n (2004)D6-logo.svg is Nikon's flagship full-frame DSLR]]
 * Nikon D3 (2007)
 * Nikon D3X (2008)
 * Nikon D3S (2009)
 * Nikon D4 (2012)
 * Nikon D4S (February 24, 2014)
 * Nikon D5 (January 6, 2016)
 * Nikon D6 (February 11, 2020)
 * Nikon D800 / Nikon D800E (2012)
 * Nikon D810 (June 26, 2014)
 * Nikon D850 (August 24, 2017)
 * Nikon Df (5 November 2013)
 * Nikon D700 (2008)
 * Nikon D750 (September 12, 2014)
 * Nikon D780 (January 2020)
 * Nikon D600 (13 September 2012)
 * Nikon D610 (8 October 2013)
 * Pentax K-1 (February 18, 2016)
 * Pentax K-1 II (February 21, 2018)
 * Sony α DSLR-A900 (2008)
 * Sony α DSLR-A850 (2009)
 * Sony α SLT-A99 / Sony α SLT-A99V (12 September 2012) (utilizing a semi-transparent SLT mirror)
 * Sony α ILCA-99M2 (2016)

The Nikon E2/E2s (1994), E2N/E2NS (1996) and E3/E3S (1998) digital SLRs as well as the similar Fujifilm Fujix DS-505/DS-515, DS-505A/DS-515A and DS-560/DS-565 models used a reduction optical system (ROS) to compress a full-frame 35 mm field onto a smaller 2/3-inch (11 mm diagonal) CCD imager. They were therefore not digital SLRs with full-frame sensors, however had an angle of view equivalent to full-frame digital SLRs for a given lens; they had no crop factor with respect to angle of view.

The first full-frame DSLR cameras were developed in Japan from around 2000 to 2002: the MZ-D by Pentax, the N Digital by Contax's Japanese R6D team, and the EOS-1Ds by Canon.

Nikon has designated its full frame cameras as FX format and its smaller sensor interchangeable-lens camera formats as DX and CX.

Other technologies

 * Sony Handycam NEX-VG900 (announced September 2012) – a 35mm full-frame video camera (also capable to shoot hi-resolution photos) with interchangeable lenses (Sony E-mount)
 * Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1 (announced September 2012) and Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1R (announced June 2013) – full-frame compact cameras with fixed lens
 * Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1R II – full-frame compact camera with fixed lens from 2015

Prototype full-frame digital SLRs

 * Pentax MZ-D "MR-52" (presented in 2000, based on Pentax MZ-S, with the same sensor as Contax N, it never went into production)
 * Sony Alpha flagship model "CX62500" (presented at PMA 2007, early prototype of what one-and-a-half years later became the DSLR-A900 (aka "CX85100"), though with many detail differences)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Easy Button

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Easy Button
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 * Merge into the article about Staples and redirect. Christopher Parham (talk) 21:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Easy Delete. --Vsion 01:59, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Staples and redirect. --BorgHunter (talk) 03:43, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Staples and redirect. NN on its own. - Sensor 03:29, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

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AGM-136 Tacit Rainbow

The AGM-136A Tacit Rainbow was a United States military anti-radiation missile program run from 1982 to 1991.

The requirement was for a low-cost air-launchable system to aid in the destruction of enemy air defense networks. The proposed unit would combine elements of cruise missiles and UAVs, it would be launched in large numbers by heavy bombers, fighters, or possibly mass ground launch systems.

The missiles would fly in advance of crewed aircraft up to 450 km to pre-programmed target zones and patrol there until enemy radar sources were detected which would then be destroyed, acting as a loitering munition. This extended patrol time on target ("loiter time") was the key feature of the new system, a persistent anti-radiation missile (PARM) as opposed to a HARM. This would allow for the threatening suppressive effects that HARMs have for significantly longer times, allowing friendly aircraft to operate in the area with a higher degree of safety for a longer time.

The project was started by the DoD in 1982, but moved to the control of the USAF Aeronautical Systems Division in 1984 as a joint Navy/Air Force project. The majority of the system was designed and developed by Northrop with Texas Instruments providing the seek head and Boeing providing a system that allowed it to be launched from B-52 bombers. The first test air-launch was on July 30, 1984.

The unit was 8 ft long and 5 ft in span with a body diameter of 27 in, flight and control surfaces deployed after launch. It massed around 431 lb including the 40 lb warhead. Power was provided by a Williams F121 turbofan, producing 310 N of thrust from the 0.9 m, 22 kg unit.

Some sources state that production units would have used a 1200 N variant of the Williams International WR-24. While achieved speed and range are uncertain, low subsonic speed flight was probable and all sources indicate a range much lower than the hoped-for 450 km. Each unit was to cost around $200,000, up to thirty would have been loaded in a single B-52.

The Naval Research Advisory Committee reported in 1989 that the project was not progressing well. In 1991 a DoD audit found numerous management problems. The program was canceled in 1991 (FY 1992), without any production units and at a total cost of around $4 billion. It was only the second post-Vietnam military project to be canceled after completing testing but before production.

Survivors
Below is a list of museums which have a Tacit Rainbow in their collection:
 * Museum of Aviation, Robins Air Force Base, Georgia
 * National Museum of the United States Air Force, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio
 * U.S. Naval Museum of Armament & Technology, NAWS China Lake, California

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Talk:Rogers Telecom

Home Phone
I moved Rogers Home Phone to redirect to here, as it's their product, it doesn't yet need its own article. -- Spinboy 21:51, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

This section has inaccuracies. The Home Phone product is unrelated to Rogers Telecom. Home Phone was launched by Rogers Cable solely and is a Cable product. The wireline service of Home Phone was announced after the Sprint acquisition still under the Cable banner, and is now discontinued within the Rogers Cable territory.

Sprint Canada
Wait a minute, was there never a page for Sprint Canada before Rogers acquired it?--Steven 02:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem like it, Steven. Remember, Wikipedia started in 2001, back when dial-up was still widespread.  Still, there are many good reasons to create a Sprint Canada article.  i'll list these reasons below.  --LABcrabs (talk) 15:35, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

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Some parts of this article are outdated. Services are already available in Ottawa. Thanks.
 * Cleaning up. Please sign your comment!  ;)  --LABcrabs (talk) 15:35, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Sprint Canada article suggestion
According to this article, and to the facts regarding Rogers' services, the Home Phone seems to be a VoIP solution using the same digital cable that delivers cable TV and Internet. For Sprint, however, this was not the case unless one chose the lately-offered VoIP. For their analog Home Phone service, they did not use a cable or Internet connection like Rogers', but rather depended on a traditional RJ11 phone cable.

The truth is that since 1993, Sprint Canada was its separate company until about mid-2005. Their services included a dedicated Home Phone, an Internet Home Phone, dial-up Interent access, plans for residential High-Speed Internet (business High Speed was available), and even an MVNO partnership with Fido. Their flagship product was long distance, and they helped us get today's penny-low rates. In fact, for over a decade, Sprint was competing against Bell and Rogers before being acquired by the latter. They are an important influence in Canada's telecommunications industry then and now.

Please consider the importance of Sprint Canada and its need for a separate article. Sprint's home phone, dial-up Internet service, affordable long distance and Fido bundles were all competitive products products that Rogers did not have before acquiring Sprint. Please write your comments regarding this. Thank you. --LABcrabs (talk) 15:35, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * On this I'm inclined to agree with you. Sprint Canada should have a separate article. Me-123567-Me (talk) 19:26, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

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A representative of Rogers has indicated on Talk:Rogers Cable the entities have been absorbed into Rogers Communications proper. Just thought I would float that bit of information. -- dsprc   [talk]  04:42, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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Image copyright problem with Image:IslaDeJuan.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:IslaDeJuan.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images on Wikipedia is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this:.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. You can get help on image copyright tagging from Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags. -- Carnildo 21:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called GrimReaper. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name GrimReaper~enwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name. If you think you might own all of the accounts with this name and this message is in error, please visit Special:MergeAccount to check and attach all of your accounts to prevent them from being renamed.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 00:10, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 13:26, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

title: User talk:GrimReaper~enwiki