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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Imths.com

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. -- Phroziac ( talk ) 18:46, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Imths.com
Non-notable site, single link-to from google. Vanity. C HAIRBOY (☎) 05:51, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. C HAIRBOY (☎) 05:51, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable site. The site creator, Ian Nordstrom, created by User:MrNordstrom, could probably be speedied as vanity if consensus is that his site isn't notable. / Alarm 20:36, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. nonnotable. mikka (t) 22:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. It was jsut a test anyways, feel free to delete it if you'd like.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.

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User talk:Bobthefish~enwiki

Please stop creating articles about these people that you know. They are non-notable, and the one about Ryan seems to be nothing but an attack on him. Please stop this or you may be blocked from editing. Academic Challenger 05:52, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Tim McCarver

And Yet More Bias
It's hard to accept that the amount of negativity in this article meets the NPOV requirement Wikipedia holds. Does McCarver make mistakes? Absolutely. Does he call players by their parents (former players) names? Absolutely. Anyone who hasn't experienced this firsthand hasn't reached 40 yet... Does he do as good a job now as he did twenty years ago? Probably not... who among us does? Sports commentators are always lightning rods for criticism (see: Cosell, Michaels, O'Brien, someone here even posted from a site called 'firejoemorgan'... of all people), but to crucify McCarver for on air gaffes while simultaneously admitting he has covered playoff baseball for 30 years is ludicrous. Yes, he makes mistakes. Does he make more than others? I don't think so. We get that some people don't like McCarver. If neutral (IE: non Yankee fans) observers overwhelmingly feel he is biased, it could be reported. But the fact that "Most Yankee fans think he's biased against them" does not pass the smell test. If it did, the fact that 26 of us happen to think Joe Morgan does a great job partnering Jon Miller would mean that this site has a bias against him...  There are bigger things to worry about than a sports commentator who misprounounces names... Harry Caray did it for 20 years and fans loved him all the same. Posthocergopropterhoc 20:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure why it's ludicrous to speak of McCarver's repeated mistakes while "admitting" that he's been covering baseball for 30 years. The fact that he's experienced doesn't mean that he doesn't have his problems. Of course McCarver or any public figure who is paid to express his opinion is a lightning rod. I agree that there's no need for a bias section, because I've never noticed any particular bias other than that he loves Derek Jeter. He's clearly not alone in his love of Derek Jeter, and I wouldn't say that constitutes any sort of bias. But to ignore his repeated miscues is to misinform the reader. Each announcer has his foibles, and McCarver's include a penchant for spoonerisms and a tendency to state as fact things that aren't in fact true. It's hard to do an objective study, but I'd say that it's fairly clear he makes more than his fair share of mistakes in this area. Since the information in the "criticisms" section is well-documented, I'm not seeing the rationale for taking it out. It's not as if he didn't say these things. McCarver (like Morgan) attracts more criticism than others because he has more exposure, yes, but he also attracts more than others because (like Morgan) he has a greater tendency to make an idiot out of himself in public than, say, Bob Costas or Jon Miller or any of a number of other people. If it's NPOV to include his mistakes, then what you have is NPOV causing articles to be advertisements for famous people -- and that's what they have publicists for. Where Anne hath a will, Anne Hathaway. 02:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

 * We can dance around this subject endlessly with regard to McCarver or any other public figure. Since NPOV is the standard, personal views should not be included in the article (that's one of the reasons discussion pages exist).  Do you really mean to say he "attracts more criticism because he has a greater tendency to make an idiot out of himself in public" ...and then quote NPOV concerns?
 * I didn't say it's NPOV to include some McCarver mistakes, the point is that the article (at that time) included a significant amount of material - greater than the amount of material that presented facts about McCarver - which appeared solely to justify a user or users personal dislike of the man. My point was that that kind of thing is a personal view.  What you or I think about the man personally is irrelevant to an encyclopedia entry.  Reference could be made to certain infamous/notable mistakes, but to list them ad nauseum is simply an effort to discredit the subject's abilities.  (See past edits on the current US President for more examples).  If Wikipedia is to remain an online encyclopedia, personal views must be kept off the article page.  If people want to rubbish the subject of any article, they can start their own "ihate(insert name here).org" site.
 * I see that another user has removed most of the 'gaffes' that were listed on the main page. The article is now more or less NPOV in my opinion.  Would you agree? It neither glorifies the man nor demeans him, just as an encyclopedia article should & must.  Posthocergopropterhoc 22:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I would suggest adding his lack of understanding advanced statistics in baseball. For example, he referred to Adrian Gonzalez as the "hands down" 1st half AL MVP during the 2011 All Star Game.  Jose Bautista was by far the highest rated player in WAR and wOBA at the break.  I am too lazy to do all of the leg work to add this section, but I believe someone should do it.  IMO it is the most common complaint of McCarver, b/c he never mentions the changes that have occurred in MLB over the last 15 years.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.65.200.19 (talk) 06:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

 * WAR is complete bullshit. Right now Fangraphs WAR has Robinson Cano as teh *sixth* best 2B in baseball. That's ludicrous. "Advanced statistics" are seriously overrated ad stats geeks are ruining baseball. It's a game played by men, not equations. Having said that, Tim McCarver sucks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.226.19.80 (talk) 08:44, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Bias
The issue of bias has been brought up by several different editors. At this point, it is time to include at least a sentence or two on the subject. Since this is Tim's 'time of year, we shouldn't wait long before adding the appropriate language. Thoughts? Coffeemilk 05:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't know one single big Yankee fan who doesn't hate McCarver and think he's biased against the Yankees. Why not mention this, too? Tim 4:49 Oct. 29 2005 UTC.
 * Then all the "big yankee fans" you know are retarded because he is clearly biased against whomever the yankees are playing.Zzz345zzz
 * It speaks to the subjective nature of the section. It should be removed. 1 Tim 5:30 Oct. 11, 2006

Last World Series Player To Steal Home Plate
Anyone know if that is still true? 71.194.6.238 03:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Stupid Statements
Every time he opens his mouth he makes a stupid remark....how the hell could Fox ar anyone else his this clown?

Mark Wahlberg fastball
Actually, McCarver said something along the lines of Mark Wohlberg, sounding more like a combination of the last names of Mark Wahlberg and Mark Wohlers. I heard it, and others have reported it too, so it might be worth mentioning in the article. -Ramrod? 00:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Someone should add that Mark Wahlberg's name is not Wohlberg, as McCarver spoke it. That is a detail that makes his gaffe even more wrong. And more awesome. Terriblefriend 22:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

McCarver and Carlton deaths, 60 feet, 6 inches
The para needs a source, but what the heck...I laughed so hard, I almost blew an artery...let it go.... hahahahaha Luigibob 13:00, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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Teapot Dome
I'm removing any mention of that, seeing as it occurred about 20 years before he was born. Counterfit 06:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I also removed the line "Quite often after games he has broadcast, he can be seen outside in stadium parking lots, wandering with a dazed/confused look on his face. He will then ask passersby if they have seen his car. He tends to forget where he has parked because he is an old deuche." I'm pretty sure that doesn't follow the BoLP policy. Also, douche is spelled wrong. Counterfit 07:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Announced Retirement
He announced his retirement from baseball after the 2013 season on March 27, 2013, not 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.34.211 (talk) 20:21, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:List of Kings of Lan Xang

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 * Note that this differs from the Dutch page. gren グレン ? 15:32, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

May we merge this article with the Monarchs of Laos since this is part of the Laotion royal family and with too many articles it becomes messy. User:Royalist14 User talk:Royalist14 ? 15:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Pe̍h-ōe-jī

Comment by mikka
Please take a look at this version of Church Romanization artcl (now a redirect). Reusable? Where it was copyed from, I am wondering. The text refers to "Wikipedia". mikka (t) 05:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * It appears to be from the corresponding article in the Chinese version of Wikipedia. --ian 17:40, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

The tone markers may not display correctly in all typefaces, but it appears now a lot of the pe̍h-oē-jī is in Lucida Sans Unicode--is that really necessary? --ian 21:00, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

 * No, it isn't, and I've removed that formatting. —Babelfisch 02:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I translated a couple of the later paragraphs from the current Chinese incarnation. The Chinese version could be slightly NPOV against KMT, but this is a thorny issue and it is hard to deny the role of the KMT in suppressing Taiwanese. Anyways, maybe someone knows official English names of the "mother tongue movement" and 國語推行委員會. I also don't know the best romanizations of the three individuals who made the application to the ISO; I doubt that they themselves would use pinyin. If you're reading this Kaihsu maybe you could help out here? :-) Mgmei 21:33, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Pe̍h-oē-jī or Pe̍h-ōe-jī?
Why do the Taiwanese and Chinese Wikipedias list POJ as Pe̍h-oē-jī while the English one lists it as Pe̍h-ōe-jī? Was the article incorrectly moved? Hintha 07:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I think "Pe̍h-ōe-jī" is correct, so the zh-min-nan and zh Wikipedias are mistaken--according to Wikipedia:Chiàⁿ-jī-hoat (in the Siaⁿ-tiāu hû-hō ê phiat-hoat section), the macron should be on the 'o' and not the 'e'. --ian (talk) 16:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

A nice addition to the article would be the rules on tone markers for syllables with more than one vowel. Hongthay (talk) 23:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

 * The article should explain how the macron is used; the word macron does not occur in it, and ō (to take an example from the name of the article itself) does not occur in the lists of symbols, so it is impossible for the reader who does not already know the system to make sense of it. Languagehat (talk) 15:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

 * There is a principle for marking macrons: a > o͘, o, e, er > i, ir, u > m, ng (by sonority)
 * As some people's pronunciation of "oe" is actually "ue", marking a macron on the "e" is not wrong. luuva (talk) 16:57, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

IPA
Why not consider giving the corresponding IPA for each letter? With all that Pinyin, Wade-Giles and stuff out there, one does not have a clue about how consonants in Pe̍h-ōe-jī ought to be pronounced... orthographic symbols are useless unless they're assigned some phonemic/phonetic content! JREL (talk) 09:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I incorporated your suggestion into a new template called, which is now embedded in the article at Pe̍h-ōe-jī. A-cai 13:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

POJ in Hakka?
How would POJ be used to represent Hakka? Which letters are modified to represent that language? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.20.5.222 (talk) 13:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

POJ needs to be checked
Can someone check the POJ in the lead of Wu Chuanyu? Badagnani (talk) 21:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Need POJ
Need POJ reading at Sean Lien. Badagnani (talk) 06:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Still need POJ meading at Sean Lien. Badagnani (talk) 20:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Undisplayable script
What language script/encoding do I need to download/set to display POJ correctly? --Mistakefinder (talk) 11:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Complete overhaul of this article
I have just made a big edit to the article, replacing the old one (which had absolutely no inline references, only one end reference, and some dubious unsupported material) with a fully documented version, complete with a proper history, citations, bibliography and more. I welcome any further edits to improve the article - eventually I'd like to push this for Good Article and subsequently Featured Article status once it has been polished up a bit more.

Taiwantaffy (talk) 23:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

alphabetically ordered references

 * Ang Ui-jin (1992) (in Chinese). Taiwan Fangyan zhi Lü (A Journey Through Taiwanese Regional Speech). Taipei: Avanguard Publishing. ISBN 957-9512-31-0.
 * Babuja A. Sidaia (1998) (in Hàn-lô Taiwanese). A-Chhûn. Taipei: Taili. ISBN 957-98861-6-4.
 * Band, Edward (1936). Barclay of Formosa. Christian Literature Society.
 * Baran, Dominika (2004). ""Taiwanese don't have written words": Language ideologies and language practice in a Taipei County high school". Conference Proceedings - 2004 International Conference on Taiwanese Romanization. 2.
 * Campbell, William (2006) [1913]. A Dictionary of the Amoy Vernacular. Tainan: PCT Press. ISBN 957-8959-92-3.
 * Chang Yu-hong (2001). Principles of POJ or the Taiwanese Orthography: An Introduction to Its Sound-Symbol Correspondences and Related Issues. Taipei: Crane. ISBN 978-957-2053-07-1.
 * Chiung, Wi-vun Taiffalo (2005). Language, Identity and Decolonization. Tainan: National Cheng Kung University. ISBN 957-8845-85-5.
 * Chiung, Wi-vun Taiffalo (2007). Language, Literature and Reimagined Taiwanese Nation. Tainan: National Cheng Kung University. ISBN 978-986-00-9746-7.
 * Chung Raung-fu (1996). The Segmental Phonology of Southern Min in Taiwan. Spoken Language Services. ISBN 957-9463-46-8.
 * Copper, John F. (2007). A Historical Dictionary of Taiwan (Republic of China) (2nd ed.). Lanham, MD: Scarecrow Press. ISBN 978-0-8108-5600-4.
 * Douglas, Carstairs; Barclay, Thomas (1990) [1923]. Chinese-English Dictionary of the Vernacular or Spoken Language of Amoy. Taipei: Southern Materials Center. ISBN 957-9482-32-2.
 * Embree, Bernard L.M. (1973). A Dictionary of Southern Min.
 * Heylen, Ann (2001). "Romanizing Taiwanese: Codification and Standardization of Dictionaries in Southern Min (1837–1923)". in Ku Weit Ying; De Ridder, Koen. Authentic Chinese Christianity, Preludes to Its Development: Nineteenth & Twentieth Centuries. Leuven: Leuven University Press. ISBN 978-9058671028.
 * Iûⁿ Ún-giân (2009). Processing Techniques for Written Taiwanese – Tone Sandhi and POS Tagging (Doctoral dissertation). National Taiwan University.
 * Iûⁿ Ún-giân; Tiuⁿ Ha̍k-khiam (1999). "台灣福佬話非漢字拼音符號的回顧與分析 (Comparison and Analysis of non-Character Transcription Systems for Taiwanese Holo)" (in Chinese). Tainan: National Cheng Kung University. http://ws.twl.ncku.edu.tw/hak-chia/i/iunn-ungian/hui-hanji-phengim.htm. Retrieved 2009-12-17.
 * Kì Bō͘-hô (2008). 台語教會羅馬字講義 (Notes on Taiwanese Church Romanization). Tainan: PCT Press. ISBN 978-986-6947-34-6.
 * Klöter, Henning (2002). "The History of Peh-oe-ji". 2002台灣羅馬字教學KAP研究國際學術研討會論文集 (Proceedings of the 2002 International Conference on Taiwanese Romanization Research). Taipei: Taiwanese Romanization Association.
 * Klöter, Henning (2005). Written Taiwanese. Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz. ISBN 3-447-05093-4.
 * Lin, Alvin (1999). "Writing Taiwanese: The Development of Modern Written Taiwanese". Sino-Platonic Papers (89). http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/spp089_taiwanese.pdf.
 * Maryknoll Fathers (1984). Taiwanese: Book 1. Taichung: Maryknoll.
 * Norman, Jerry (1998). Chinese. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-29653-6.
 * Ong Iok-tek (2002) (in Chinese). Taiwanyu Yanjiu Juan. Taipei: Avanguard Publishing. ISBN 957-801-354-X.
 * Ota, Katsuhiro J (2005). An investigation of written Taiwanese (Master's thesis). University of Hawai'i at Manoa. https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10125/11520/2/uhm_ma_3246_r.pdf.
 * Ramsey, S. Robert (1987). The Chinese Language. Princeton: Princeton University Press. ISBN 978-0-691-01468-5.
 * Tiuⁿ Ha̍k-khiam (2004). "白話字kap台語文的現代化 (Peh-oe-ji and the Modernization of Written Taiwanese)" (in Han-lo Taiwanese). Conference Proceedings - 2004 International Conference on Taiwanese Romanization. 1.
 * Tseng Rui-cheng (2009) (in Chinese). Taiwan Minnanyu Luomazi Pinyin Fang'an Shiyong Shouce (Practical Manual for the Taiwan Southern Min Romanization System). ROC Ministry of Education. ISBN 978-986-01-6637-8. http://english.moe.gov.tw/public/Attachment/9851214271.pdf.
 * Wu Chang-neng (2007). The Taigi Literature Debates and Related Developments (1987–1996) (Master's thesis). Taipei: National Chengchi University.
 * Wu Guo-sheng; Chen Yi-hsin (2004). "客家語羅馬字文獻的版本研究 (Books Written in Hakka Romanization)" (in Chinese). Conference Proceedings - 2004 International Conference on Taiwanese Romanization. 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GlitchCraft (talk • contribs) 00:06, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Removing "citation needed" tag from the opening line
The first line of this article had a "citation needed" tag after the IPA. I removed it because If required I can add further POJ-IPA references, but I feel it's unnecessary here.
 * 1) General references for the pronunciation, including IPA, of this system, exist further down the article
 * 2) Finding an explicit reference to the effect that "Pe̍h-ōe-jī = peʔ˩ ue˩ dzi˨" is probably impossible

Taiwantaffy (talk) 01:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Diacussion transferred from FAC page (archived nom)
Comment: This is a challenging article on an unfamiliar subject, which looks (and is) daunting to most would-be reviewers. I'm sure that is why the nomination has so far lacked content reviews. Having gone through roughly the first half, I'm inclined to agree with the peer reviewer that the article is professionally put together. My main concern is that of accessibility to the readership of a general encyclopedia rather than a linguistic journal, and my comments are generally related to that particular issue.
 * Lead
 * Give dates for the Japanese era in Taiwan,  the Kuomintang martial law period and the establishment of the PRC
 * Be careful about the use of "today", which is inderminate. In a few years, the situation "today" might be a lot different from that described in the article.
 * Name
 * The first sentence is over-complicated, with too many parenthetical insertions. The sentence would read adequately as: "The name Pe̍h-ōe-jī (simplified Chinese: 白话字; traditional Chinese: 白話字) literally means "vernacular writing2, i.e. written characters representing everyday spoken language". I question whether the later insertions are necessary; the certainly affect the readability of the article and perhaps would be better omitted.
 * "vernacular writing" should be in inverted commas, not italicised. Likewise other English terms such as "Church Romanization".
 * Informalities such as "didn't" should be avoided.
 * "The term "romanization" is also disliked by some, as the word connotes a supplementary phonetic system rather than an orthography." Remember, this is a general encyclopedia. Most readers would have great difficulty understanding sentences like that.
 * Early development
 * "...the tonal structure of Hokkien..." Suggest "the tonal structure of the Hokkien dialect..."
 * "with regard to", not "with regards to"
 * Overlong sentence: beginning "The first major work to represent this new orthography..." It needs splitting, and some word re-ordering, e.g. "can be therefore regarded" → "can therefore be regarded"
 * "tinkered with" is maybe a bit informal; perhaps "adjusted"?
 * I suggest a paragraph break at "In 1842..."
 * To proselytize means to convert someone from one religion to another. It would be more accurate to write that the missionaries began the proselytising process,  rather than that they "started proselytizing", which makes the business sound rather routine. I wonder whether the word itself is the best choice; it may not be altogether familiar to many readers.
 * Maturity
 * "...donated a small printing press to the local church,[24] which Thomas Barclay learned how to operate..." Ambiguity, since in this construction "which" refers back to the church.
 * The structure of this section becomes very confusing after the words "...became the first printed newspaper in Taiwan." We first have an unintroduced section written in POJ, followed by what I assume is its translation. These excerpts are unexplained. A table then intrudes, again without introduction and therefore puzzling to the reader. What are we supposed to understand from the table? When the text resumes, I'm afraid I had lost the thread completely.

I will come back with further comments later. Should the article be archived meantime, I will continue my comments on the talkpage. Brianboulton (talk) 18:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the time you have taken to make these suggestions. I find them almost universally good and have done my best to implement them, although I have refrained from using the term "Hokkien dialect" as suggested above, because of the thorny dialect/language in Chinese linguistics (I went for "Southern Min" instead, as it is used and explained earlier in the article).

 * With regards regard to your comments about the "Maturity" section, I am interested to hear your thoughts on its reorganisation. Tidying up the references for the table and adding explanatory text is probably uncontroversial. Removing the images has also improved it, I think, but I worry that relevant images are one of the things encouraged in the FAC criteria, and that by losing two here the article may fall foul of that particular expectation. Taiwantaffy (talk) 14:23, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

syllables with no initial consonants?
Aren't there syllables with no initial consonants in Pe̍h-ōe-jī /Minnan? Like say Iûⁿ Ún-giân in Bibliography. And I guess many other. --Koryakov Yuri (talk) 18:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

 * Yes, there are. – Kaihsu (talk) 14:13, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation of POJ "L" and POJ "J"
I used to listen to some Taiwanese songs, and I've caught the pronunciation of words that are supposedly pronounced with the POJ "J" initial to be pronounced as "l". (The initial from 日, pronounced as "r" in Mandarin, is usually expected to become the "j" initial in Hokkien.) This phenomenon was then confirmed through the audio files on Iun Un-gian's site. Furthermore, I've heard the "l" initial pronounced as a "d" sound, as in a voiced alveolar plosive. I understand that this was the actual older pronunciation of some words that begin with l. (Note that Archaic/Middle Chinese nasal initials turned to stops for the most part: m -> b, n -> d, ng -> g; with the d becoming l later on. This is noted in the Philippine Hokkien pronunciation of you "li" as "di", compare Mandarin "ni".) However, words such as 羅, in the audio file, had a distinctive plosive quality to it, which was unusual since it has a MC initial of l (來母). Is this some allophony, or is this some vernacular? I see the table of IPA has a "d" for the initial l, but this is not reflected in the phonology section of Taiwanese Hokkien. Hmanck (talk) 15:26, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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Consonant or syllable?
The article contains the phrase:

"the nucleus vowel is the only required part of a licit consonant in Chinese varieties."

with a reference to a source. Since I cannot consult the source but seriously doubt that "consonant" is the intended word here (I am not aware that a vowel can be part of a consonant), I wonder if anyone can confirm that the word "syllable" is intended, or is the correct word.Redav (talk) 16:17, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

 * Yes, this is a mistake. Freelance Intellectual (talk) 20:06, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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Cris Williamson

Cris Williamson (born 1947) is an American feminist singer-songwriter and recording artist. She was a visible lesbian political activist during an era when few who were unconnected to the lesbian community were aware of gay and lesbian issues. Williamson's music and insight have served as a catalyst for change in the creation of women-owned record companies in the 1970s. Using her musical talents, networking with other artists working in women's music, and her willingness to represent those who did not yet feel safe in speaking for themselves, Williamson is credited by many in the LGBT community for her contributions, both artistically, and politically, and continues to be a role model for a younger generation hoping to address concerns and obtain recognition for achievements specific to people who have historically been ignored.

Throughout her career, Williamson has released dozens of albums on both Olivia Records and her own Wolf Moon Records label. Her 1975 Olivia album, The Changer and the Changed, became one of the best-selling independent albums of all time and is considered a seminal album within the women's music genre.

Early years
Williamson was born in 1947 in Deadwood, South Dakota, although her family moved to Colorado and Wyoming when she was still young. Williamson has recalled that she lived in a small isolated town and at some expense, was taken to piano lessons by her mother from when she was around 5 or 6 years of age. Her mother insisted that "no matter how far out in the mountains or the wilderness we are, my kids are going to have culture." Her musical idol at the time was Judy Collins, and Williamson developed a musical style and sound that was similar to that of Collins. She released her first album, The Artistry of Cris Williamson in 1964, when she was sixteen. She became a local musical sensation in Sheridan, Wyoming, releasing two following LPs afterward. Williamson graduated from the University of Denver. She supported herself initially as a school teacher, while at the same time collaborating with other women who were also singer-songwriters and performing artists. She began to network with Holly Near, Meg Christian, and Margie Adam, all musicians who became women artists of stature, forming an entirely new genre of music, primarily about and for women.

Olivia Records
Williamson became close friends with Meg Christian and during a radio interview in Washington, D.C. in 1973, when Christian was discussing the challenges with her record label, Williamson is recorded as asking "well, why don’t you just start a women’s record company?" A group, which became the Olivia collective, met two days later and decided to establish a women’s record label aimed at gay women. The independent label Olivia Records was founded the next day. The founders of the label saw it as an opportunity to build on the increased awareness of lesbian feminist causes and give gay women a voice in the cultural mainstream that reflected their experiences. The founders also aimed to "keep profits in the pockets of lesbian artists and sound technicians, and power in the hands of female label heads who would create alternative channels for production and distribution in an industry controlled by men." The label was criticised at the time as being discriminatory, but Williamson said they were "for women, not against men...[adding]...why is it like that, the dichotomy? It's a false equivalency. It's a way to dumb it down and take the power out of it."

Olivia Records released Williamson's The Changer and the Changed (1975) which became one of the best-selling independent releases of all time. Described as "the cornerstone of the feminist 'women's music' movement", the album was rated in 2017 as number 123 on the NPR (National Public Radio) list of the greatest albums made by women. The Changer and the Changed was also the first LP to be entirely produced by women, and is the all-time best-selling album to come out of the women's music genre. As William Ruhlmann of AllMusic writes:

 * "The Changer and the Changed was to women's music what Michael Jackson's Thriller was to the music industry in general in the mid-'80s, an album that sold far beyond the perceived size of the market, more than 100,000 copies in its first year of release. Eventually, it reportedly sold more than 500,000 copies, which would make it a gold album, although it has not been certified as such by the RIAA. (That does not disprove the sales estimate, however. Albums are not certified automatically; a record company must request certification and pay for an audit.)"

Williamson went on to record more than a dozen further albums with Olivia Records, then after its demise formed her own label, Wolf Moon Records. This helped to set the pace for other recording artists who found it difficult to work with the major record labels.

In 1982, she collaborated with Estonian artist/author Viido Polikarpus on a science fiction/fantasy fable LP and book (with Polikarpos' artwork) entitled Lumiere, which was released on Pacific Cascade Records.

Personal life
Williamson recorded two albums with her long-time producer and lover, Tret Fure. The first of these of these, recorded in the fall of 1982, was a children's album called Lumiere ...A Science-Fantasy Fable, which won a Parents' Choice Award. Fure is said to have helped "add a more produced, harder-rocking sound to Williamson's LPs Prairie Fire and Wolf Moon...[and]...with Postcards from Paradise, the two abandoned their solo careers to form a permanent duo act." Williamson and Fure ended their 20-year relationship in 2000, and each now records as a solo artist.

Williamson has worked as a session musician both to support herself and to lend assistance to other fellow artists. She has collaborated with other women's music artists, including Meg Christian and Teresa Trull. She has friends in many corners; one longtime friend is musician Bonnie Raitt, who has played on some of her albums.

Political activism and charity work
Williamson has been a lesbian feminist and a promoter of women owned music companies.

Writing in the Los Angeles Times in 1984, Steve Pond noted that Williamson was "initially put off by the political stridency of the early Olivia scene" but became more active and in the same article she is quoted as saying: "There are a lot of broken women in the women's movement, women just edged and barbed and ready to go off, and a lot of women who simply do not want Olivia to change."

She has worked on a teaching project with Bonnie Raitt that offered songwriting workshops called 'Catch and Release.'

Use in hip-hop
Williamson's "Shine on Straight Arrow" was sampled by late hip hop producer J Dilla in the song "The Red" from the 2003 album Champion Sound (with Madlib as Jaylib), as well as producer Knxwledge for the instrumental "498" on his 2009 debut EP 3P. Her song "Waterfall" from The Changer and the Changed has also been sampled by various other hip hop artists such as Raekwon on his song "A Rainy Day" from his 2013 album Fly International Luxurious Art. Additionally, various voice clips from Williamson's 1982 storybook LP Lumière were sampled on the 2002 song "Astroboy" by hip-hop and electronic producer Daedelus.

Awards
On September 12, 2018, Williamson and Olivia Records co-founder Judy Dlugacz received the Jack Emerson Lifetime Achievement Award from the Americana Music Association. At the ceremony, Williamson noted: "We've sold out Carnegie Hall three times. This is the first time we've been acknowledged by the industry...[adding]...a woman singing to another woman...it’s not such a big deal now, because now love is love is love."

Discography

 * 1964 The Artistry of Cris Williamson
 * 1965 A Step at a Time
 * 1965 The World Around Cris Williamson
 * 1971 Cris Williamson
 * 1975 The Changer and the Changed
 * 1978 Live Dream
 * 1980 Strange Paradise
 * 1982 Blue Rider
 * 1982 Lumière
 * 1983 Meg/Cris at Carnegie Hall
 * 1985 Prairie Fire
 * 1985 Snow Angel
 * 1987 Wolf Moon
 * 1989 Country Blessed (with Teresa Trull)
 * 1990 The Best of Cris Williamson
 * 1991 Live in Concert: Circle of Friends
 * 1994 Postcards from Paradise
 * 1997 Between the Covers
 * 1999 Radio Quiet
 * 2001 Ashes
 * 2003 Cris & Holly (with Holly Near)
 * 2003 Replay
 * 2005 The Essential Cris Williamson
 * 2005 Real Deal
 * 2005 The Changer and the Changed: A Record of the Times [30th Anniversary Enhanced]
 * 2007 Fringe
 * 2008 Winter Hearts
 * 2010 Gifthorse
 * 2013 Pray Tell
 * 2017 Motherland
 * 2022 Harbor Street

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The result of the debate was delete. --18:49, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

United Federation Foundation
del. no traces of notability. mikka (t) 06:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete, when I searched aroudn to fix this I found like 49 hits related to SETI. Unless convincing evidence it should go. gren グレン 06:34, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, unverifiable. --Apyule 08:09, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless some evidence of notability can be provided. — Ливай [[Image:Anarchy_symbol_neat.png|15px]] 08:17, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete. Patent nonsense combined with vanity article. Searches on Google revealed lots of hits for this person/group bugging SETI@Home and similar distributed-computing projects with spam and glurge on their bulletin boards. Game over! - Sensor 00:51, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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Just to clarify I undid the previous changes on this page because I did not feel they presented a NPOV --meshach 06:02, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

BCTF has NOT missed the contract negotiations deadline
Please get the facts straight. BCTF has until the end of the month to sign a deal and claim the signing bonus. -Maggie
 * Well, looking at the way the BCTF is advertising now, I think its pretty obvious that they won't sign and I figured one edit was better than two. Not to appear partisan but those ads on TV tonight just go to deepen my point -- Tawker 00:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

2013 strike!
Someone update! Lythronaxargestes (talk) 22:37, 10 June 2014 (UTC)


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Talk:Executive Order 13233

EO 13233 has been struck down, mostly
Somebody who understands legalese better than I do might want to add that a federal court threw out most of EO 13233 in October 2007. In other words, this is all old. See:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20071001/index.htm (with link to PDF of the ruling) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.40.48 (talk) 20:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

There is new information on the White House Website http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ExecutiveOrderPresidentialRecords/ regarding this executive order. It says "Sec. 6. Revocation.  Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.219.227.182 (talk) 00:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Does this EO expire/how long are the records now protected?
Those are two of the questions that pop to my mind that don't seem to appear in the article, but should be in the opening paragraph probably. I've been reading over the text of the EO, but I am not a lawyer and can't really get my head around it :) --Fxer 06:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The EO expires for sure when Bush leaves office. Because it is not a law, just a policy, it can't be enforced on the new administration. However, the next President is free to make a carbon-copy of the order. -NordsternMN 22:13, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * EOs do not expire when the President who issues that EO leaves office. EOs are in effect until a future President recinds the EO or if there is a time limit on the EO.  Jons63 20:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Answers
The EO will not expire unless repealed by a future EO, a public law, or a court decision.

The records are still protected 12 years under EO 13233, but now record can be kept under wraps much longer at the discretion of the a former president or his/her heirs.

Bias
It seems to me that this article may be leaning towards one point of view. Whether or not that view is in the end valid, it introduces a bias which is not befitting of an encylopedia article. The only source cited explicitly in the body of the article is an anti-bush website. So I think this article may need a partial rewrite to make it more informational and less persuasive. -192.104.254.70 16:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I started to add tags. There's plenty to do, and some of the quotes are only vaguely sourced. My goal is to tie the quotes more tightly to easily verifiable links; right now, it's just so-and-so said, which takes a bit of doing to verify. grendel|khan 16:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

This article could surely do with more references, and perhaps even deserves an "unreferenced" tag - but at this point, I don't think it warrants the "bias" tag, so I shall remove it. BlackberryLaw 04:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Merge PRA Amendments of 2007 here
I propose merging Presidential Records Act Amendments of 2007 to this article. The PRA Amendments did not pass (See ), and the 110th Congress is now history; it cannot be passed (although a bill with the same content but different name could be re-introduced and passed). There's little or nothing in Presidential Records Act Amendments of 2007 that is not already in this article, in the section Congressional response. TJRC (talk) 00:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I have added what little extra information there was in the PRA article, and replaced it by a redirect to this page. --KarlFrei (talk) 12:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

1972 1974 Act
What was the 1972 Act? Can someone cite it here?—Markles 14:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I'm not aware of a 1972 Act. (That doesn't mean there wasn't one.)  There is a Presidential Records Act of 1978, and I've added it to the "See also" section.  Maybe that was unnecessary, come to think of it, since I now see it's linked in the body. TJRC (talk) 16:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Whoops. I meant 1974. The current version of this article states in the "Background" section: "In 1974, Congress passed legislation…." What is it?—Markles 17:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Looks like it was the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974. I've updated the article to reference it. TJRC (talk) 18:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Okay, Markles, you got me sufficiently intrigued that I've made an article: Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act. TJRC (talk) 21:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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Steve Edwards (talk show host)

Steve Edwards (born Steven Edward Schwartz on August 23, 1948, in New York City) is an American retired television and radio personality in Los Angeles, California morning shows, including AM Los Angeles, Two on The Town, and Good Day L.A.. From 2001 to 2005, he hosted GDLA's nationally syndicated companion show, Good Day Live, which aired on many Fox-owned and affiliated stations. Currently he is a regular fill-in host at KABC radio as well as hosting 2 podcasts, OK LA, with former co-hosts Jillian Barberie and Dorothy Lucey, from Good Day LA and Steve Edwards Confessions: an in-depth interview with newsmakers and people who have impacted our culture.

Biography
Edwards began his broadcasting career after graduating from the University of Miami (earning a degree in history) and attending the University of Houston (unfinished work on a master's degree in clinical psychology). His first broadcasting job was in the late 1960s with KMSC radio (now KMJQ) in the Houston suburb of Clear Lake City, Texas. He later moved to KTRH, where he hosted a nighttime call-in show. While in Houston, he also worked at CBS television affiliate KHOU-TV, where he was a news anchor and hosted shows. In the mid-1970s, he worked at ABC-owned WLS-TV in Chicago as host of AM Chicago with Sandi Freeman and Friday Night with Steve Edwards.

In 1978, Edwards moved to Los Angeles, where he worked at CBS-owned KNXT (later KCBS-TV), in which he hosted daily half hour magazine style Two On the Town with Connie Chung and later Melody Rogers, and his own self-titled talk show. While at the station, he served as its entertainment editor and as a weatherman. He also worked on The Baxters, an experimental sitcom produced by Norman Lear, and was lead host on the variety show On Stage America.

Edwards appeared as a correspondent Entertainment Tonight for one season, and moved to KABC-TV in 1984. At KABC-TV, he hosted A.M. Los Angeles, first with Cristina Ferrare followed by Tawny Little, along with Hollywood Closeup and an afternoon show, 3:30. Edwards also hosted talk radio programs for then-radio sister station KABC-AM, with both the Steve Edwards Show and Sports Talk.

Edwards returned to local television in 1993, when he began hosting Live in L.A., an infotainment program on KCAL-TV, before becoming an anchor and host of Fox-owned KTTV's Good Day L.A. in 1995.

Through the years Edwards has been the host of many unsold pilots including game shows, variety shows and talk shows. Three game show pilots featuring Edwards as host included Get Rich Quick! in 1977 for Bob Stewart and ABC, Pandemonium in 1979 for Jay Wolpert and CBS, and a 1990 pilot of a potential syndication run of the mid-80s NBC game show Scrabble. Neither of these three pilots were picked up.

Awards and honors
Edwards has received the Governor's Award from the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences and has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

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Lucybell

Lucybell is a Chilean rock band formed by four students from the Universidad de Chile's Faculty of Art in 1991, in Santiago de Chile. The original four members were:
 * Francisco González: drums, bass, percussion, keyboards (1991–2005)
 * Marcelo Muñoz: bass, acoustic guitar, keyboards (1991–2000)
 * Claudio Valenzuela: lead voice and composer, electric guitar (1991-)
 * Gabriel Vigliensoni: keyboards (1991–2000)

Marcelo Muñoz and Gabriel Vigliesoni left the band shortly before the recording of the album Amanece in early 2000. Eduardo Caces (bass) joined shortly after, becoming a permanent member of the band ever since. Francisco Gonzalez then left in 2005, leading to the immediate arrival of Cote Foncea (drums), of the now defunct Chilean rock band Dracma. In the wake of these inner turmoils, the band managed to issue their fifth studio album "Lúmina", which displayed the new direction the band was taking - a rawer guitar-driven sound, moving away from the previous programmed and synth-friendly tunes. A year earlier the EP "Sálvame la Vida" was the prelude to this evolution, it included the first "Lúmina" single along with some cover songs released in tribute albums and a contribution to a movie soundtrack. The group, currently composed of Valenzuela, Caces and Foncea, recently signed with Warner Mexico and released their most recent work, "Comiendo Fuego". At the end of the year 2007, the band recorded by their own means the EP "Primitivo", following the "do it yourself" indie music aesthetics.

Studio albums

 * Peces (1995)
 * Viajar (1996)
 * Lucybell (1998)
 * Amanece (2000)
 * Lúmina (2004)
 * Comiendo Fuego (2006)
 * Fénix (2010)
 * Magnético (2017)
 * Mil Caminos (2020)

EPs

 * ''Mataz]' (1996)
 * Sálvame la Vida (2003)
 * Primitivo (2007)
 * Poderoso (2013)

Live albums

 * Sesión Futura (2001)
 * Sesión Primitiva (2008)

Compilations

 * Grandes éxitos (2000)
 * Todos sus éxitos (2003)
 * Aquí y Ahora (Lo mejor de) Lucybell (2007)

Members

 * Claudio Valenzuela – lead vocals, lead guitar. (1991–Present)
 * Eduardo Caces – bass guitar, rhythm guitar, keyboards. (1999–Present )
 * Cote Foncea – drums and percussion, rhythm guitars. (2005–Present )

Past members

 * Marcelo Muñoz – bass guitar, rhythm & lead guitars. (1991–1999)
 * Gabriel Vigliensoni – keyboards, rhythm guitars.   (1991–1999)
 * Francisco González – drums and percussion, bass guitar, rhythm & lead guitars. (1991–2005)

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FAR for The Green (Dartmouth College)
I have nominated The Green (Dartmouth College) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Bumbubookworm (talk) 12:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Adjutant General of New Hampshire
I'd like to create an article for the role of state adjutant general of New Hampshire. Looking at this role in other states, there is variance in how existing Wikipedia articles are titled:

 * X Adjutant General
 * Connecticut Adjutant General
 * Indiana Adjutant General
 * Puerto Rico Adjutant General
 * South Carolina Adjutant General

 * Adjutant General of X
 * Adjutant General of Kansas
 * Adjutant General of Maryland
 * Adjutant General of Massachusetts
 * Adjutant General of New York
 * Adjutant General of North Carolina
 * Adjutant General of North Dakota
 * Adjutant General of Oklahoma
 * Adjutant General of Texas

 * Adjutant general of X ("general" not capitalized)
 * Adjutant general of Illinois

The state's website also uses inconsistent wording, such as "The Adjutant General, New Hampshire" here and "Adjutant General of the State of New Hampshire" here.

I propose titling the article Adjutant General of New Hampshire, which follows the format used by a majority of existing pages (above) and is consistent with Attorney General of New Hampshire and Governor of New Hampshire. Comments from other editors welcome. Dmoore5556 (talk) 04:45, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Agree. I was reading your description above and felt that "Adjutant General of New Hampshire" was the best fit, so was happy to get to the last paragraph and see that that was what your proposal was. --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:52, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

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Drafts for missing New Hampshire Supreme Court Justices
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The Fuzztones

The Fuzztones are an American garage rock revival band formed in 1982.

History
Founded by singer-guitarist Rudi Protrudi in New York City, the band has gone through several member changes but is currently active in Europe. Dismissed by some critics and listeners as a "bar band" or unoriginal, they maintained a strong fan base in New York, in Europe (with their music being played on Hungarian State Radio), and in Los Angeles.

Rudi Protrudi moved to Los Angeles in 1987, after the breakup of the original band, to organize a new Fuzztones, consisting of Jordan Tarlow (lead guitar), John "Speediejohn" Carlucci (bass guitar), Jason Savall (Vox combo organ), and "Mad" Mike Czekaj (drums). This lineup bears the distinction of being the only 1980's garage rock revival band to secure a major label record deal, when they signed to RCA.

The group's name is derived from Fuzz Tone, the commercial name of a guitar effect pedal invented in 1962 and whose distinctive sound was popularized in the 1965 hit song "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" by the Rolling Stones.

Current members

 * Rudi Protrudi – lead vocals, guitar, harmonica
 * Lana Loveland – organ, backing vocals
 * Marcello Salis – guitar, backing vocals
 * Eric Geevers – bass, backing vocals
 * Marco Rivagli – drums, backing vocals

Current touring members

 * Nico Secondini – keyboards, backing vocals
 * Paul Rodas – bass

Founder members

 * Rudi Protrudi – vocals, guitar
 * Deb O'Nair – organ
 * Elan Portnoy – guitar
 * Michael Jay – bass
 * Michael Phillips – drums

Discography
Sources:

Studio albums

 * Lysergic Emanations (1985) #12 UK Indie
 * In Heat (1989)
 * Braindrops (1991)
 * Monster A-Go-Go (1992)
 * Salt for Zombies (2003)
 * Horny as Hell (2008)
 * Preaching to the Perverted (2011)
 * NYC (2020)
 * Encore (2022)

Live albums

 * Screamin' Jay Hawkins and the Fuzztones Live 12-inch EP (1984, United States Midnight Records MIRLP114B)
 * reissued in 2006 on 12-inch EP by Italy Get Back Records
 * reissued in 2015 on 12-inch LP by Cleopatra record USA (original four tracks on A side and bonus tracks on B side), also available on cd (same running time and track list)
 * Leave Your Mind at Home (12-inch EP, 1984, United States Midnight Records - MIRLP105)
 * reissued in 2006 on 12-inch EP by Italy Get Back Records
 * Lysergic Love/Lovely Sort of Death (1986, Furlined Vulcano/Purple Helmut) (bootleg live album)
 * Live in Europe! flexidisc (1987, Germany Music Maniac Records MM06)
 * reissued in 2006 on 12-inch LP with gatefold sleeve by Italy Get Back Records
 * First 1,000 copies contain one-sided 7-inch picture disc of the Glora flexidisc
 * Blue Themes/13 Women And The Only Man Around (1988, Mint Minus Records MMR666) live bootleg
 * Blue Theme (1987) - German bootleg of above
 * In Heat Tour souvenir 10-inch picture disc (1989, United Kingdom Situation Two Records SIT 61)
 * Lysergic Ejaculations CD (1994, Germany Music Maniac Records MM052)
 * LSD 25: 25 Years of Fuzz and Fury CD & DVD (2005, Sin 002 / Italy Get Back Records GET138)
 * Lord Have Mercy On My Soul (Recorded at Lincoln Lounge, Venice, CA. - 7-inch single, 2005, Twist, Twist 34)
 * Live at the Dive '85 12-inch LP, CD (2023, Italy Area Pirata Records)

Compilation albums

 * Creatures that Time Forgot (LP/CD,1989, Germany, Music Maniac - MMLP020/United States Skycad CD/LP HEAD 64CD/HEAD 64)
 * Teen Trash Vol. 4 12-inch LP/CD (1993, Germany Music Maniac MM88004)
 * Flashbacks (1996, Sundazed Music SC11045)
 * Lysergic Legacy – The Very Best Of (2013, Cleopatra Records)

Tributes and other appearances

 * Illegitimate Spawn double CD (Tribute album to The Fuzztones featuring 42 bands - 2006, Sin Records SIN003)
 * Songs We Taught The Fuzztones 2×CD (Original versions of songs played by the Fuzztones - 1989, Germany Music Maniac MMCD 66002)
 * The Fuzztones Boom 10-inch EP / CD (The Sonics tribute album - 2006, Beyond Your Mind Records)
 * 1) A1 - Caught You Red-Handed
 * 2) A2 - Cinderella
 * 3) A3 - The Witch
 * 4) B1 - Have Love Will Travel
 * 5) B2 - Strychnine
 * 6) B3 - Boss Hoss
 * Born to Be Wild (Ann-Margret album, featured on the title track- 2023, Cleopatra Records)

Compilation appearances

 * The Rebel Kind (1983, Sounds Interesting Records)
 * includes the song "Ward 81"
 * New York Freakout flexidisc (1984, 99th Floor fanzine & Venus Records)
 * includes the song "99th Floor", also tracks by Plasticland and The Vipers
 * Battle of the Garages Vol.2 (Voxx Records/BOMP Records 200-019)
 * includes the song "Green Slime"
 * Hanging Out at Midnight (1984, United States Midnight Records MIDLP 127)
 * includes the song "The Witch"
 * Garage Sale cassette (1985, United States ROIR CASSETTE A135)
 * includes the song "Cinderella"
 * Skullfuck 7-inch EP (1987, Germany Glitterhouse Records GR 0027)
 * Free with Glitterhouse magazine
 * includes a live recording of the song "Brand New Man"
 * also tracks by Broken Jug, The Fluid, and The Politicians
 * Lost Trails 7-inch EP (included with Lost Trails fanzine)
 * Gimmick double 12-inch LP (Germany Music Maniac MMLP 023)
 * For Your Longhair Party 7-inch EP (1992, Aishna Ash Records 202)
 * includes the song "Be a Caveman"
 * Cavestomp! Volume 1 CD (1998, Cavestomp Records 001)
 * includes the song "She's Wicked"
 * R.A.F.R. Volume 3 CD (2000, R.A.F.R. Records RAFR011)
 * Las Vegas Shakedown CD (2000, Masked Superstar Recordings 001)
 * includes the song "A Wristwatch Band"
 * Be a Caveman: The Best of the Voxx Garage Revival CD (2004, Voxx Records VCD2073)
 * Todos Somos Ramones CD (2004, Rockaway Records)
 * Evil Fuzz (2005, Om Om Music RBKB9 B9)
 * Lost in Tyme CD (included with 2005 issue of Lost in Tyme magazine)
 * includes the song "They're Gonna Take You Away"
 * Children of Nuggets four-CD box set (2005, Rhino Records RT74639)
 * includes the song "Bad News Travels Fast"
 * Psychedelica Volume I double CD (2006, Northern Star Records NS1)
 * Halloween Garage Rock (2009, Garage Masters Records)
 * includes the song "She's Wicked"
 * Psych-Out Christmas (2013, Cleopatra Records)
 * includes the song "Santa Claus"
 * Summer Bash 2019 (2019, Soundflat Records)
 * includes "Alexander" (previously unreleased version), "Land of Nod" (feat. Steve Mackay), "This Game Called Girl" and "Invisible".

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Multiple Myeloma Research Foundation

The Multiple Myeloma Research Foundation (MMRF) is a charitable organization dedicated to multiple myeloma, an incurable blood cancer. The MMRF runs as if it were a for-profit business, expecting high returns from the money the organization raises from donors.

History
MMRF was founded in 1998 by twin sisters Kathy Giusti and Karen Andrews, following Kathy's diagnosis with multiple myeloma. Giusti, a pharmaceutical company executive and Harvard Business School Alum, wanted to encourage researchers to develop treatments for multiple myeloma by using business models rather than academic models of drug development.

About The MMRF
MMRF is a private funder of multiple myeloma research, having raised over $120 million since its inception to contribute funding to more than 120 laboratories worldwide. MMRF funding contributes to diverse research strategies to yield long-, mid-, and short-term results in an effort to deliver better treatments to patients faster: basic science programs to better understand the disease and identify new druggable targets through genomics and proteomics research; validation programs to prioritize new compounds and combinations based on key targets; and clinical trials conducted at a number of myeloma centers.

In 2009, the MMRF funded research into 30 compounds at the pre-clinical stage. By 2013 it had raised more than $250 million and its work has helped gain approval of six new drugs to treat the disease.

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Lyme and cybelle

lyme & cybelle was an American male-female folk-pop duo formed by Warren Zevon and Violet Santangelo. The duo is best known for its moderate chart hit "Follow Me", which represented the first commercial recording of Zevon's long musical career.

Origins
Zevon and Santangelo met in early 1964 while attending Fairfax High School in Los Angeles, California. The two became close platonic friends and quickly found they shared musical interests, singing songs by The Beatles. They soon formed a musical partnership. Zevon took the stage name of Stephen lyme, while Santangelo called herself cybelle, a name inspired by the 1962 French film Sundays and Cybele. The pair fashioned their names in lower case in the style of American poet e.e. cummings.

On one occasion, the duo sang songs for a group of friends that included child actor Michael Burns, whose mother worked at White Whale Records. Through this connection, Zevon and Santangelo obtained a contract with White Whale to record a single as lyme and cybelle.

Early success and rapid decline
Bones Howe produced their first single for White Whale, called "Follow Me." Howe, famed for his production work on hits by The Association and The 5th Dimension, later considered "Follow Me" to be the first psychedelic pop record. The single, backed with the lush ballad "Like the Seasons," reached number 65 on the Billboard pop charts in April 1966.

Rather than having the duo record an album to cash in on its success, White Whale opted to have Howe produce a second lyme and cybelle single. The resulting single, a cover of Bob Dylan's "If You Gotta Go, Go Now" backed with "I'll Go On," failed to make a dent in the charts. According to Santangelo, the single began selling well, only to have its momentum crushed when Bill Gavin, a powerful radio industry figure, claimed the song was sexually suggestive.

After the failure of their second single, Zevon left the duo. Several reasons have been given for why Zevon departed. Some accounts claim that Zevon became more uncompromising in his artistic vision. Santangelo claims that she walked away from Zevon because of his excessive drinking and drug use.

Zevon was replaced by a new "lyme," Monkees guitarist Wayne Erwin. The first and only single issued by the second version of lyme and cybelle was "Song 7," backed with "Write If You Get Work," both allegedly written by Erwin, although credited to "Joe Glenn." The single was produced by Curt Boettcher, who had just produced The Association's first album. This incarnation of lyme and cybelle lasted into 1967, when Erwin fired Santangelo.

After lyme and cybelle
Following the demise of lyme and cybelle, Santangelo left the music business. Trying her hand at musical theater, she earned a talent scholarship at the University of Southern California. She became a successful Broadway actress under the stage name Laura Kenyon.

Zevon's subsequent demo recordings indicated an evolution toward incisive and darkly humorous lyrics and a rough sound far removed from the mellow vibe of lyme and cybelle. He scored a couple of songwriting successes: "Outside Chance" was covered by The Turtles, while "She Quit Me" was included on the soundtrack from the 1969 drama film Midnight Cowboy. Zevon's first solo album, Wanted Dead or Alive, was released by Imperial Records in 1970. Although that album was not a commercial success, Zevon would eventually rise to fame with his classic albums Warren Zevon (1976) and Excitable Boy (1978).

The Turtles recorded a cover of lyme and cybelle's "Like the Seasons" as a B-side to their #1 hit from 1967, "Happy Together."

Re-release
All six of the lyme and cybelle songs from their three singles were included on a compilation album entitled The First Sessions, released by Varèse Sarabande in early 2003, shortly after Zevon was diagnosed with fatal mesothelioma. This compilation also included two previously unreleased lyme and cybelle recordings, "I've Just Seen a Face" by the Beatles and "Peeping And Hiding" by Jimmy Reed, plus a demo recording of "Follow Me."

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Synopsia

Synopsia may refer to:

 * Synopsia (moth), a moth genus
 * Synesthesia, a perceptual phenomenon

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