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Dauphin Kings

The Dauphin Kings are a Junior "A" ice hockey team from Dauphin, Manitoba, Canada. They are members of the Manitoba Junior Hockey League (MJHL), a part of the Canadian Junior Hockey League (CJHL) and Hockey Canada. The Kings were established in 1967 and play at the Credit Union Place.

1967–68
In the fall of 1967 Dauphin, along with the Selkirk Steelers, Portage Terriers and Fort Garry Frontiersmen, started the Central Manitoba Junior Hockey League.

1968–69
After years of trying to secure an MJHL franchise Dauphin finally got its wish when the CMJHL and the MJHL merged for the 1968–69 season. The Kings opened the season with nine straight wins and remained undefeated for twelve games. All season long the Kings' battled with the Selkirk Steelers for first overall which came to a showdown on the very last night of the season at a head-to-head match in Dauphin. The Kings "blanked" them 4–0. The Kings were led by goaltender Ron Low loaned by the Winnipeg Jets of the Western Canada Hockey League. Bob Neufeld anchored the defense with Johnny Roy who gave the Kings an offensive flare from the blueline, Ron Boyes, Farley Hemmings and Wayne Pockett. The first line of "Captain" Dennis Schick, Jim Cahoon and Bob Leguilloux would combine to score 93 goals during the season. Schick won the Scoring Championship, Cahoon came second and Leguilloux center Bob Buchy also finished in the top ten. Other forwards included Clayton Kemp (20 goals), Dennis Clarke, John Morrison, Gary Westbury, Peter Wood and 15-year-old Blaine Stoughton. Nearing the end of the season Butch Goring and his sidekick Merv Haney quit the Winnipeg Jets and joined the Kings.

The Goring affair
On Sunday February 9, 1969, the MJHL held a special emergency meeting to discuss Butch Goring leaving the Winnipeg Jets of the Western Canada Hockey League to join the Dauphin Kings. Goring had played the night before the meeting in Kenora for the Kings during a regular season game. Goring led the Kings to a win and scored 3 goals the Kings had signed Goring the Friday night after the Jets game. Learning of this MJHL president Bill Addison instructed the Kings not to use Goring in Sundays game. Another Jets forward Merv Haney also signed by the Kings and traveled to Kenora with the team but did not play in either game. The Kings won Sundays game 10–6.

At the meeting, which lasted three hours, the MJHL gave the Kings approval to use Goring in regular season and play-off games. After learning of the MJHL's approval Jets owner Ben Hatskin said "There are no ifs, ands or buts. The matter is in the hands of the lawyers and I'll likely seek an injunction to prevent him from playing in Dauphin". The WCHL president Ron Butlin said a court injunction would be sought against Goring and Haney from playing with Dauphin Kings. Butlin, also president of the Canadian Hockey Association, said the CHA would be "taking whatever action is necessary against Dauphin and the Manitoba Amateur Hockey Association for damages." Goring was leading the WCHL in goals at the time.

On Monday February 10, the MJHL approved the Kings signing of Haney. On Tuesday the Jets and the CHA filed in court seeking an injunction against Goring and Haney from playing for any club other than the Jets. On Wednesday Goring and Haney played for the Kings in an exhibition game against Weyburn Red Wings of the Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League. In the third period Goring suffered a broken wrist. Since the injunction hearing could not be heard until June it was dropped although the lawsuit for damages was not. Goring would return for the MJHL finals wearing a special cast. It was announced on July 31, as part of an agreement between the Canadian Amateur Hockey Association and the WCHL, that all legal issues in this matter were to be dropped.

'69 playoffs
Goring, with goaltender Ron Low, helped lead the Kings to the western Canadian final for the Memorial Cup to meet the Regina Pats of the Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League (SJHL). The Pats were led by goaltender Gary Bromley and eight future NHL draft picks, including Don Saleski, won the best of seven 4–3 with Goring missing game seven with a separated shoulder. Goring was picked up by Regina for the Memorial Cup finals and was voted the Pats best player in a losing effort as the Montreal Junior Canadiens, led by Marc Tardif and Gilbert Perreault, swept the Pats four straight.

For the 1969–70 season the Kings had a major rebuild, only Low and Bushy remained. Bushy was named captain. Rookie scoring sensation Ron Chipperfield was added and Dennis Clarke returned after spending most of the previous year on the injury list, to the give Kings the best one two punch in the league. Chipperfield as a 16-year-old rookie tied for the league lead in goals, and with Clarke, and Randy Sigurdson formed the Kings 2nd line. Bushy centered the 1st, with Dan Tremblay and Dave Marin. Barry Chernos was brought in, Herb Andres was elevated from the taxi squad, and Merv Kiryluik came from the Dauphin Minor Hockey Association to make up the third line. Peter Wood, became the tenth forward, after spending the previous year on the taxi squad. Bill Gidden anchored the defense with Ron Realini, Bernie Reid, Harvey Shaw, and Dauphinite Ron Lemieux, who added offensive from the blueline. The Kings breezed through the MJHL, in the final Low recorded 2 shutouts, allowed 3 goals, as the Kings swept in four straight. For the second straight year, the Kings faced the Westfort Hurricanes of Thunder Bay Junior Hockey League. And in a bitter fought series the Kings failed in 6 games.

1970–75
1970–71, the Kings once again needed to rebuild with only 4 returnees, Andres, Marin, Realini and Tremblay. Tremblay would be named captain and led the league in scoring with 109 Points. The Kings added forwards Jeff Berke, Brad Carefoot, Don Larway, Jim Miller, Bill Murray, Darrell Novakowski, Tom Sinclair, Ed Tkachuk, defenseman Mike Korney, Dan Lemieux, Perry Robinson and Drew Trapp. The biggest hole the Kings needed fill was goal. With Ron Low going to the pros the Kings brought in the tandem of Ty Langton and Larry Budzinski. Injuries were the biggest concern for the 1970–71 Kings and the Kings' season ended early.

The Kings entered the 1971–72 season with nearly a set team and the Kings were thinking championship, Budzinski and Langton were back in goal. Dauphinites Korney, Lemieux and Trapp would return to the blueline joined by Jack Osachuk and Dauphinite Greg Kiryluik. Up front the Kings had 7 returnees and Dauphinite Jim Cruise was added to the 1st line with Miller and Murray. Cruise would score 36 goals as a rookie and the line combined for 97 goals in a 48-game schedule. The line of Tkachuk, Marin and Carefoot would score 98 goals and be the Kings' 2nd line. Scott Hetherington, another Elm Creek boy, would center the 3rd with wingers Larway and Novakowski. Dauphinite Ken Buchy was the tenth forward, a position his older Bob had only a few years earlier. Miller would be named captain. Half a year in Bob Windatt quit the Winnipeg Jets of the WCHL and signed with the Kings. Windatt replaced Novakowski who had been traded. The Kings would win 40 games out 48, score 304 goals and appeared to be the best of the MJHL. The Kings would meet their Waterloo in the Saskatchewan Champions Humboldt Broncos.

During the 1974–75 season Dauphinite Jim Misener established a new MJHL record of 73 goals breaking Bobby Clarke's record of 71.

1977
Rebuilding since the run of 1971–72, the Kings had a veteran lineup for 1976–77. The Kings had three 100-point men, all of whom were in the top 5 in league scoring: Jim Misener (59 goals), Bob Genoway (47 goals) and Lyle Stokotelny (33 goals). Owen Connelly chipped in with 35 goals, add fellow veterans Cam Carefoot, Martin Dupont, Dan Greening, Rich Hopfner, Vernon Jebb, Dean Murray, Duke Rodnisky, and starting goalie Jim Tkachyk, who was entering his third season, and second as #1. Three veterans from other clubs, Calven Bernard, Brad Harding, Harvey Takvam and rookies Brock Bulbuck, Rich Little, Rick Peacosh, Ron Shewchuk and Greg Vertz. The Kings prevailed winning the Turnbull Cup for the 4th time in 10 years. The Kings' achilles heel had been getting past the Saskatchewan champs and the Prince Albert Raiders were not going to change that.

1983
In 1982–83 Mike Ridley of the St. Boniface Saints shattered Jim Misener's goal scoring record by 18, netting 91 goals. Kings' Brent Sapergia also surpassed Misener to establish a new team record of 77.

The Kings went on to win the Anavet Cup in 1983 by defeating the Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League's Yorkton Terriers but lost the Abbott Cup to the British Columbia Junior Hockey League's Abbotsford Flyers.

Season-by-season record
Note: GP = Games Played, W = Wins, L = Losses, T = Ties, OTL = Overtime Losses, GF = Goals for, GA = Goals against

Playoffs

 * 1971 Lost quarter-final
 * Kenora Muskies defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-3

 * 1972 Won League, lost Man/Sask Championship
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Selkirk Steelers 4-games-to-none
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Portage Terriers 4-games-to-none
 * Dauphin Kings defeated West Kildonan North Stars 4-games-to-none MJHL CHAMPIONS
 * Humboldt Broncos (SJHL) defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-2

 * 1973 DNQ
 * 1974 DNQ
 * 1975 Lost quarter-final
 * Portage Terriers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-none

 * 1976 Lost quarter-final
 * Selkirk Steelers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1977 Won League, lost Anavet Cup
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Thompson King Miners 4-games-to-none
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Brandon Travellers 4-games-to-none
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Kildonan North Stars 2-games-to-1 (series suspended) MJHL CHAMPIONS
 * Prince Albert Raiders (SJHL) defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1978 Lost final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Brandon Travellers 4-games-to-2
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Selkirk Steelers 4-games-to-3
 * Kildonan North Stars defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-3

 * 1979 Lost quarter-final
 * Portage Terriers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-3

 * 1980 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Brandon Travellers 4-games-to-2
 * Selkirk Steelers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1981 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Kildonan North Stars 4-games-to-none
 * Selkirk Steelers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1982 Lost final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Winkler Flyers 4-games-to-2
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Selkirk Steelers 4-games-to-none
 * Fort Garry Blues defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-none

 * 1983 Won League, won Turnbull Cup, won Anavet Cup, lost Abbott Cup
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Portage Terriers 4-games-to-none
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Winkler Flyers 4-games-to-2
 * Dauphin Kings defeated St. Boniface Saints 4-games-to-1 MJHL CHAMPIONS
 * Dauphin Kings defeated The Pas Huskies (NJHL) 3-games-to-none TURNBULL CUP CHAMPIONS
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Yorkton Terriers (SJHL) 4-games-to-1 ANAVET CUP CHAMPIONS
 * Abbotsford Flyers (BCJHL) defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-2

 * 1984 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Portage Terriers 4-games-to-none
 * Selkirk Steelers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1985 Lost quarter-final
 * Winkler Flyers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-3

 * 1986 Lost quarter-final
 * Selkirk Steelers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1987 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Portage Terriers 4-games-to-1
 * Selkirk Steelers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-3

 * 1988 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Winkler Flyers 4-games-to-1
 * Portage Terriers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1989 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Winkler Flyers 4-games-to-2
 * Selkirk Steelers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1990 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Selkirk Steelers 4-games-to-1
 * Portage Terriers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1991 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Selkirk Steelers
 * Winkler Flyers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1992 Lost quarter-final
 * Portage Terriers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 1993 Won League, lost Anavet Cup
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Winkler Flyers 4-games-to-none
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Portage Terriers 4-games-to-1
 * Dauphin Kings defeated St. Boniface Saints 4-games-to-none MJHL CHAMPIONS
 * Flin Flon Bombers (SJHL) defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-2

 * 1994 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Neepawa Natives 4-games-to-2
 * Winkler Flyers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-3

 * 1995 Lost quarter-final
 * Winkler Flyers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-3

 * 1996 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Winkler Flyers 4-games-to-1
 * Neepawa Natives defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-2

 * 1997 DNQ
 * 1998 DNQ
 * 1999 Lost quarter-final
 * OCN Blizzard defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-none

 * 2000 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Portage Terriers 4-games-to-none
 * OCN Blizzard defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-none

 * 2001 DNQ
 * 2002 DNQ
 * 2003 Lost quarter-final
 * OCN Blizzard defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-none

 * 2004 DNQ
 * 2005 Lost quarter-final
 * Neepawa Natives defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-2

 * 2006 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Portage Terriers 4-games-to-2
 * OCN Blizzard defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-3

 * 2007 Lost final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Waywayseecappo Wolverines 4-games-to-3
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Neepawa Natives 4-games-to-2
 * Selkirk Steelers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 2008 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Waywayseecappo Wolverines 4-games-to-3
 * Portage Terriers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-none

 * 2009 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated OCN Blizzard 4-games-to-2
 * Portage Terriers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-none

 * 2010 Won League, won Anavet Cup, lost 2010 Royal Bank Cup final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Neepawa Natives 4-games-to-none
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Swan Valley Stampeders 4-games-to-1
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Winnipeg Saints 4-games-to-none MJHL CHAMPIONS
 * Dauphin Kings defeated La Ronge Ice Wolves (SJHL) 4-games-to-1 ANAVET CUP CHAMPIONS
 * First in 2010 Royal Bank Cup round robin (4-0)
 * Dauphin Kings defeated La Ronge Ice Wolves (SJHL) 6-2 in semi-final
 * Vernon Vipers (BCHL) defeated Dauphin Kings 8-1 in final

 * 2011 Lost semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated OCN Blizzard 4-games-to-3
 * Portage Terriers defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-2

 * 2012 Lost quarter-final
 * Winnipeg Saints defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1

 * 2013 Lost final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Waywayseecappo Wolverines 4-games-to-1
 * Dauphin Kings defeated OCN Blizzard 4-games-to-3
 * Steinbach Pistons defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-2

 * 2014 Lost final, Western Canada Cup runner up, lost RBC Cup semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated OCN Blizzard 4-games-to-0
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Virden Oil Capitals 4-games-to-0
 * Winnipeg Blues defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-1
 * First at the 2014 Western Canada Cup round robin (3-2) qualified as host
 * Yorkton Terriers (SJHL) defeated Dauphin Kings 5-3 in final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Spruce Grove Saints (AJHL) 4-3 in runner-up game
 * First in the 2014 Royal Bank Cup round robin (4-0)
 * Carleton Place Canadians (CCHL) defeated Dauphin Kings 5-3 in semi-final

 * 2015 Lost Survivor Series
 * Waywayseecappo Wolverines defeated Dauphin Kings 2-games-to-0

 * 2016 Lost Survivor Series
 * Selkirk Steelers defeated Dauphin Kings 2-games-to-0

 * 2017 DNQ
 * 2018 DNQ
 * 2019 Lost quarter-final
 * Swan Valley Stampeders defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-0

 * 2020 Playoffs cancelled
 * Portage Terriers leading Dauphin Kings 2-games-to-1 when playoffs were cancelled due to COVID-19 pandemic

 * 2021 Playoffs cancelled
 * 2022 Won league, lost Centennial Cup Semi-final
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Swan Valley Stampeders 4-games-to-2
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Winkler Flyers 4-games-to-1
 * Dauphin Kings defeated Steinbach Pistons 4-games-to-3 MJHL CHAMPIONS
 * Second at the 2022 Centennial Cup round robin (3-0-1)
 * Pickering Panthers (OJHL) defeated Dauphin Kings 2-0

 * 2023
 * 2023 Lost quarter-final
 * Virden Oil Capitals defeated Dauphin Kings 4-games-to-2

Notable alumni
NHL Draft Picks:
 * Butch Goring selected by Los Angeles Kings in round 5 (#51) of 1969 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Bob Neufeld selected by Toronto Maple Leafs in round 6 (#67) of 1969 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Ron Low selected by Toronto Maple Leafs in round 8 (#103) of 1970 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Ron Lemieux selected by Pittsburgh Penguins in round 9 (#110) of 1970 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Jim Cahoon selected by Montreal Canadiens in round 3 (#31) of 1971 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Norm Cherrey selected by Vancouver Canucks in round 8 (#101) of 1971 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Blaine Stoughton selected by Pittsburgh Penguins in round 1 (#7) of 1973 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Mike Korney selected by Detroit Red Wings round 4 (#59) of 1973 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Ron Chipperfield selected by California Seals round 1 (#17) of 1974 NHL amateur draft
 * Don Larway selected by Boston Bruins round 1 (#18) of 1974 NHL amateur draft
 * Glen McLeod
 * Rick St. Croix selected by Philadelphia Flyers round 4 (#72) of 1975 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Scott Williams selected by Kansas City Scouts in round 9 (#145) of 1975 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Kelly Secord selected by Pittsburgh Penguins round 16 (#217) of 1975 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Jeff McDill selected by Chicago Blackhawks round 2 (#27) of 1976 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Tim Williams selected by Toronto Maple Leafs round 4 (#66) of 1976 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Dale Rideout selected by Washington Capitals round 7 (#109) of 1976 NHL Amateur Draft
 * Brad Church selected by Washington Capitals round 1 (#17) of 1995 NHL Entry Draft
 * Darcy Hordichuk selected by Atlanta Thrashers round 6 (#180) of 2000 NHL Entry Draft

Others:
 * Mel Angelstad
 * Dave Hrechkosy
 * Kirby Law
 * Jeffrey Penner signed by the Boston Bruins as a free agent
 * Barry Trotz

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Talk:Site-specific art

Exploding Cinema
I am concerned thaat the amount of copy space devoted to the arguments of Exploding Cinema is out of proportion to the issue that it supports. the issue of wether the inhabitants of a given location are alienated by the 'bourgeoisie' when an art work is installed is worthy of mention. but it is not a particularly good example of the issue: a better one might be the representation of 'great men on plinths' and the masculine and military bias towards public statuary.

this article makes me think that it has a tinge of vanity associated with it. using a film to illustrate such a minor issue when the introductory para barely lays the ground for understanding its complex contexts, seems to me to be more obscuring than informative. DavidP 00:44, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Living water
Is Betsy Damon's living water work (link) a piece that could be mentioned here? Daviddec 08:03, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Battle of Orgreave!
That work is a terrible example to use - and the reference is contradictory. There must be something better such as a Matta-Clarke.Piersmasterson 13:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

vandalism - but is it site specific?
I just reverted this page back something like 30 versions to get rid of some repeated 'alterations'. To be honest I dont think that the page was much worse with the vandalism, at least it was quite funny. In fact it occured to me while reverting that the 'interesting changes' were almost the perfect example of site-specificity - they were completely in keeping with the medium, and were absolutely appropriate to the democratic anarchy of wikipedia.

Any way I clicked the link and, for now at least, the page is vaguely coherent (in a rather dull wikisense) - Now perhaps it is time to work this page up so that it actually says something encyclopedic about site-specific art. DavidP

I am not at all familiar with talk page but I was looking for a place where I could tell my surprise about this article Site specific art. I would like to contribute, I know some things but this article needs a real expert, I mean a art historian to clean and construct it. There is obvioulsy a need for definition, categorisation, hierarchy some times betwen some categories. Public art, land art, site specific art, contextual art or relational art... There is a need for illustrations, there was a "dan flavin" image perfect for illustration in an older version, it disappear.... To say it very simply, site specific specification is the difference between buying a painting or a video to put it in your living and asking an artist to come at your home and do somethingon the wall or floor or anywhere. It is not always only the fact of the artist but also of the "provider" of the space. That is why state, mecene... and the cultural policy are very involve into, specifically into urban intervention. A lot of ephemeral manifestation are site specific, it is also part of the "société du Spectacle". Anyway, I wanted to support DavidParfitt opinion. --Ildiko Dao (talk) 16:21, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Headline text
There is a bit of a mess here with the different terms - site-specific, environmental, art/sculpture, etc. This confusion of terms is a real-life problem, not a wikipedia one, but we need to consider how we deal with it - would one, merged article be better? or a disambiguation which clearly outlines wikipedia's chosen subdivisions and allows the reader to chose the appropriate article? I've done a patch-up job on the Environmental art article, but a more comprehensive restructuring might be in order.

And incidentally, why does Environmental Art redirect to Site-specific art rather than to Environmental art, and how can I change it? --Jethrobrice 09:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

General Etimology/ History of Term Usage Needed.
This entry could use some background concerning the use of this term "Site Specific," as well as some examples of work pertinent to yet predating the usage. In particular, was this previously an architectural term, or did architecture co-opt the term from the visual arts?````B.Clement, 2007:October:28. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.103.186.136 (talk) 18:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Additional citations
Why, what, where, and how does this article need additional citations for verification? Hyacinth (talk) 03:13, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

The October 1975 issue of ARTnews does NOT have an article by Peter Frank titled "Site Sculpture." If I can find where that article is located I will change this citation or parenthetical reading suggestion or whatever you call it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.68.177.235 (talk) 19:47, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I cut out this image and caption
because it is not notable. If Expodrome or Dominique Gonzales Foerster or even Neons Parallax were blue links, maybe, but what, then we would have every site specific neon sign in the world here? Carptrash (talk) 04:36, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

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Epic?
I don't have a problem with the edit, but I'd say that Cyberman is epic as well (desperate humanity on the verge of losing a space war, Cybermen in cahoots with secret agencies within the Earth government, using political assassination as a tool...) —Josiah Rowe 00:45, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but somehow, a 4-parter doesn't seem very epic... yet. :) --khaosworks (talk • contribs)

DWM False future Doctor
In the article it states that the future incarnation of the Doctor he provided the model for proved to be false, iirc & as I understand it, while the story arc involving the 8th regenerating into that incarnation was a deception, there was a previous appearance by this future incarnation in a 7th Doctor strip where he had a different companion than those during the time of the deception. Since this would seem to place it outside the time of the false Doctor and that the companion of the future Doctor treats him as authentic, this strongly suggests to me that the 8th Doctor and Shayde based their false incarnation on their knowledge of this particular 'true' (or 'possible' at the very least) future incarnation (in the context of the DWM strips).Number36 00:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Image
Is the screencap from Myth Runner the best image to use for Briggs? A screencap from Doctor Who Confidential showing him doing the Dalek voice with his sportscaster's mike might be better, and would have the same fair use justification; alternatively, I'm sure someone could get a freely licensed image from a convention somewhere. (I wouldn't suggest using Image:GallifreyAutographs.jpg or Image:Gallifrey2006.jpg, 'cause neither one is a very clear shot of Briggs, but a better shot could probably be found.) I just don't think that the picture of Briggs in character from Myth Runner represents him all that well.

There could also be a good argument for including an image of the "Briggs Doctor" from Doctor Who Magazine, either from the brief appearance in "Party Animals" or the "Ninth Doctor" storyline. That would, of course, be in addition to an image of Briggs himself. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

How about the one onhttp://www.lunacynet.com/league/char_windermere.html? I'd do it, but I'm useless with images.(Black Dalek 18:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)).

I think this one is perfect. http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/webcasts/realtime/interviews/nickbriggs/index.shtml cold someone up load it?(Black Dalek 10:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)).

 * There's a number of Behind the scenes pictures on the BBC website that may be able to be used. I don't know what the situation is for uploading pictures from an official website, is that allowed under "fair use"?
 * along side a dalek
 * http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/photostories/doomsday/images/09.jpg

 * voicing the cybermen
 * http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/photostories/riseofthecybermen/images/17.jpg
 * And one of him using the microphone to make the voices
 * http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/s1_06gallery/800/09.jpg Paul 1978 14:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Children of Earth
Nicholas was playing a cabinet minister called Richard? --Mattmm (talk) 21:55, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

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Ana Teresa López Vives
Non notable student and website. --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 00:46, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
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 * Delete as per nom.    Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk   01:16, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * delete vanity. maybe someday the website will be notable enough, but the founder is certainly NN at this time. Youngamerican 05:25, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
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I recently met an 86-year old lady in Cocoa Beach Florida who grew up with Frances Langford in Lakeland. Frances had a brother who had a car, and he would drive the group of friends around town and on double-dates. I listened to her tell stories about Miss Langford and her family. What a very different time it was then!

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'' Twomey supported the bombing of civilian targets. On 29 October 1977, for example, a no-warning bomb at an Italian restaurant in Mayfair killed one diner and wounded 17 others. Three more people were killed in similar blasts in Chelsea and Mayfair the following month. As Twomey explained: “By hitting Mayfair restaurants, we were hitting the type of person that could bring pressure to bear on the British government”. ''

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R v Buhay

R v Buhay [2003] 1 S.C.R. 631, is a leading Supreme Court of Canada decision on the Charter rights protecting against unreasonable search and seizure (section 8) and the criteria for the exclusion of evidence under section 24(2). The court held that for evidence to be excluded on the Collins test, the seriousness of the breach must be determined by looking at factors such as good faith and necessity. On the facts, marijuana found in a bus station locker was excluded from evidence because the police had insufficient reason to search it without a warrant.

Background
Mr. Buhay had rented a locker in a Winnipeg bus station in which he stored a duffel bag of marijuana. The smell from the bag attracted the attention of the security guards who had a station attendant open it for them. They confirmed their suspicion of the contents of the bag, then locked it back into the locker, and called the police. When the police arrived they had the attendant open the locker again. They took the bag.

At no time did anyone get a warrant to search the locker. The police officers had testified that it did not cross their mind as they didn't think a locker had any right to privacy, moreover they were doubtful there would be enough grounds for a warrant.

At trial, the judge found that the police violated section 8 of the Charter and excluded the evidence under section 24(2). The Court of Appeal overturned the acquittal on the basis that the locker was under the control of the stations security and there was no unlawful search.

The Supreme Court restored the trial judge's acquittal, finding that there was a violation of section 8 and the grounds were sufficient to exclude the evidence.

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Vajradhara

Vajradhara (वज्रधर; ; ; Kabajradharan; 持金剛仏; Kim Cang Tổng Trì) is the ultimate primordial Buddha, or Adi-Buddha, according to the Sakya, Gelug and Kagyu schools  of Tibetan Buddhism. It is also a name of Indra, because "Vajra" means diamond, as well as the thunderbolt, or anything hard more generally.

In the evolution of Indian Buddhism, Buddha Vajradhara gradually displaced Samantabhadra, who is the 'Primordial Buddha' in the Nyingma, or 'Ancient School.' However, the two are metaphysically equivalent. Achieving the 'state of Vajradhara' is synonymous with complete realisation.

According to the Kagyu lineage, Buddhā Vajradhara is the primordial Buddha, the Dharmakaya Buddha. He is depicted as dark blue in color, expressing the quintessence of buddhahood itself and representing the essence of the historical Buddha's realization of enlightenment.

As such, Buddha Vajradhara is thought to be the supreme essence of all (male) Buddhas; It is the Tantric form of Sakyamuni which is called Vajradhara. Tantras are texts specific to Tantrism and are believed to have been originally taught by the Tantric form of Sakyamuni called Buddha Vajradhara. He is an expression of Buddhahood itself in both single and yabyum form. Buddha Vajradhara is considered to be the prime Buddha of the Father tantras (tib. pha-rgyud) such as Guhyasamaja, Yamantaka, and so on

From the primordial Buddha Vajradhara/Samantabhadra Buddha /Dorje Chang were manifested the Five Wisdom Buddhas (Dhyani Buddhas):
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 * Amitabha
 * Ratnasambhava
 * Vairocana

Buddha Vajradhara and the Wisdom Buddhas are often subjects of mandala.

Buddha Vajradhara and Samantabhadra Buddha are cognate deities in Tibetan Buddhist cosmology with different names, attributes, appearances and iconography. Both are Dharmakaya Buddhas, that is primordial Buddhas: Samantabhadra is unadorned, that is depicted without any attributes; conversely, Buddha Vajradhara is often adorned and bears attributes, which is generally the iconographic representation of a Sambhogakaya Buddha. Both Buddha Vajradhara and Samantabhadra are generally depicted in yab-yum unity with their respective consorts and are primordial Buddhas, embodying void and ultimate emptiness.

Dharmakaya as part of the Trikaya
The Trikaya doctrine (Sanskrit, literally "Three bodies or personalities"; 三身 Chinese: Sānshēn, Japanese: sanjin) is an important Buddhist teaching both on the nature of reality, and what a Buddha is. By the 4th century CE, the Trikaya Doctrine had assumed the form that we now know.

Briefly, the doctrine says that a Buddha has three kayas or bodies: the nirmanakaya or created body which manifests in time and space; the sambhogakaya or body of mutual enjoyment which is an archetypal manifestation; and the Dharmakaya or reality body which embodies the very principle of enlightenment and knows no limits or boundaries.

In the view of Anuyoga, the 'Mindstream' (Sanskrit: citta santana) is the 'continuity' (Sanskrit: santana; Wylie: rgyud) that links the Trikaya. The Trikaya, as a triune, is symbolised by the Gankyil.

Literature
'Shining Relics of Enlightened Body' is numbered amongst the 'Seventeen Tantras of Menngagde'  within Dzogchen discourse and is part of the textual support for the Vima Nyingtik. In the Dzogchen tantric text rendered in English as "Shining Relics", an enlightened personality entitled Buddha Vajradhara and a Dakini whose name may be rendered into English as "Clear mind" engage in discourse and dialogue which is a common convention in such esoteric Buddhist literature and tantric literature in general.

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 * The Essential Songs of Milarepa / VI. Songs About Vajra Love 46. Answer to Dakini Tzerima
 * body, speech, mind A Dictionary of Buddhism
 * rdo rje chos (vajradharma) ( b. ) The Tibetan Buddhist Resource Center

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 * Ringu Tulku: The Rimé (Ris-med) movement of Jamgon Kongtrul the Great

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All or Nothing (Fat Joe album)

All or Nothing is the sixth studio album by American rapper Fat Joe. It was released on June 14, 2005, by Terror Squad and Atlantic Records.

The album received generally positive reviews from critics. All or Nothing debuted at number six on the US Billboard 200, selling 106,500 copies in the first week, and spawned two singles: "So Much More" and "Get It Poppin'".

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Steve 'Flash' Juon of RapReviews found the record to be much more than its first two singles, praising the beats for emitting a fiery energy throughout the track listing and Joe's performance for being similar to The Notorious B.I.G. in terms of delivering both crossover radio singles and hardcore bangers, concluding that "Fat Joe is nobody's joke any more - he goes for "All or Nothing" on this album and in doing so even serves notice to competitors for that dapper throne that it's not 50's to own. I think it's safe to say he doubled up on the bet." Andy Kellman of AllMusic said it was similar to previous projects that Joe had done in the early 2000s and gave note to Cool & Dre's work being up to par with their more well-known contemporaries, concluding that "While [Fat] Joe has yet to come up with a landmark album, he also hasn't released a dud since his 1993 debut." Rolling Stone's Christian Hoard was concerned about the vast producers and guest artists throughout the album but said that Joe's macho persona and no-frills lyricism had enough variations to carry it. Spin credited the record for Just Blaze's production on "Safe 2 Say" and the Nelly collaboration "Get It Poppin'", calling it "A best-yet mix of the New York hardcore hip-hop that keeps this 50 Cent rival vital and the radio-friendly floor fillers that pad his bank account."

A writer for HipHopDX commended the album for having standout party bangers and street tracks courtesy of Cool & Dre but felt the overall package was below the standards Joe set for himself against 50 Cent and G-Unit, concluding that "With the diverse variety of production and A-List features on All or Nothing it's safe to say that it could have been so, so much more." Jim During of IGN saw promise in the record because of Just Blaze and Cool & Dre's contributions in the first-half, and Mase and Eminem's guest verses on the "Lean Back" remix, but said it loses that energy when it moves towards the crossover singles. Entertainment Weekly writer Nick Marino commented on the lack of cohesiveness in Joe's musicianship, saying "he can’t quite integrate his machismo and vulnerability into seamless artistry." He concluded that "the result is a choppy gangsta party record, laced with sweetness." Dorian Lynskey of The Guardian felt the track listing was nothing more than a typical rapper's checklist, and found Joe's rhymes on "Lean Back (Remix)" to be "workmanlike plod" compared to Eminem's, calling All or Nothing a "makeweight mainstream hip hop album". The album was originally slated to be titled: "Things of that Nature", but owing to his dispute with 50 Cent, changed the album to "All or Nothing".

Commercial performance
All or Nothing debuted at number six on the US Billboard 200 chart, 106,000 copies in its first week. This became Joe's second US top-ten debut. The album also debuted at number two on the US Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart, becoming Joe's fourth top-ten album on this chart. As of July 2006, the album has sold 293,000 copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

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Delete -An adverstising link to Yahoo musicDakota 00:50, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
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Talk:Thumbscrew (torture)

Pliers?
Why the mention of pulling out finger/toe -nails? It's been mentioned in a few other articles, too, so it's redundant, but the main thing is that's not what the thumbscrew is for. Maybe by similarity it deserves a see also, but this seems like writing an encyclopedia article on the USA with half the article describing Sweden. If I knew more about this device I'd remove the text and extend the article, but maybe somebody with this knowledge could stand in? 71.197.131.165 20:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Disambig?
This needs a disambig page: Thumb screws - hardware, Thumbscrews - Mac OSX app Ha Ha Ha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.217.75.213 (talk) 07:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Use of Thumbscrews on Other Body Parts...
Having travelled throughout Europe and touring almost 50 locations, I'm amazed that this article doesn't mention something that is almost universally mentioned by tour guides all over Europe when talking about thumbscrews.

These guides almost universally mention that thumbscrews weren't used on thumbs or toes as often as they were used on another body part: namely, the testicles. Many, if not most, of the guides mention that the thumbscrew got its name from the fact that the torturer used his thumbs to tighten the device, and the body part on which it was used was typically unmentionable in polite company and certainly could not be recorded in the official accounts.

I have no written citations or sources, however I can list the places in which the guides have explained this while demonstrating the use of, or displaying, thumbscrews: The Tower of London torture chamber;  the London torture museum;  the torture chamber in the castle of Bouillon, in Belgium;  the torture chamber in the Castle of the Counts of Flanders in the city of Ghent, Belgium; the tour guide on the Alsace Wine Route (rue de Vin) tour in France, at the village of Riquewihr;  the city guide who led us through the Castle of the Count of Brabant in the village of Turnhout, Belgium;  the guide who showed us through the Castle of the Dukes of Nassau/Orange in Vianden, Luxembourg; the guide in Westminster Abbey when talking about the tortures of Denham in conjunction with the execution of Catherine Howard; the present host at Bolebroke Castle in Hartfield, East Sussex; the city guide in Leiden, Holland, talking in general terms about torture in the days of Balthasar Gerard (and who mentioned that it was likely that the thumbscrews were used on him but not his thumbs, even though the official record doesn't describe it). , Some of the guides (Ghent, Tower of London, Bouillon) point out that a similar but different device was used on thumbs and fingers -- a device on which the actual crushing surfaces were much longer, or more contoured to knuckles, nails, fingerbones, etc, while the displayed thumbscrews have a fairly narrow crushing surface, and in the case of the samples on display in Ghent and Bouillon, have interior surfaces which are very vividly rounded in two dimensions -- obviously and without question intended for globe-shaped objects rather than cylindrical-shaped fingers. The size of the compartment as well as the spacing are congruent with their use on male reproductive glands.

Further, the guides point out that fingers quickly become numb, whereas testicles do not. Fingers, once crushed, could rarely be mended properly, preventing the victim (often of royalty, the knightly class, a tradesman, a palace worker, writer, etc.) from resuming useful service to the crown, duke, whomever, whereas crushing testicles did not necessarily interfere with the usefulness of the person in the off-chance that the victim was pardoned or otherwise released.

At least two of the guides mentioned that crushing the fingers was easily show-able to society, and could easily be complained about to the church and the general public -- to gain sympathy and arouse empathy and ill-feeling towards the crown. Crushed testicles on the other hand were something that society found taboo and therefore it was unlikely to be talked about -- hence the victim was less likely to publicly complain about the treatment or to publicly provide "proof" necessary to gain sympathy and rouse the rabble.

I won't change the article, but ask that someone else investigate these "rumors", and if corroborated, the article may be updated to include references to the use on testicles, since it seems obvious that men would certainly find that treatment much more torturous than merely having fingers crushed.

History Prof, but not of European history... —Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryProf401 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

 * The Wikipedia article on female painter Artemesia Gentileschi says she was tortured by thumbscrews during a criminal trial. Clearly it did not ruin her ability to paint, but also clearly it could not have involved the torture described above.  So exactly what did happen to her? 71.59.43.26 (talk) 20:13, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Date of use
I have changed the introductory comment to refer to the use of these devices in the early modern period, as the previous assertion of their use in the medieval period seems to have been an assumption not supported by any of the sources cited. 92.12.100.239 (talk) 19:26, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Tongue screw
https://canadianmennonite.org/stories/halloween-means-more-costumes-and-candy has a picture of and is about a tongue screw which seems similar to the thumb screw. That article mentions
 * The Bloody Theatre or Martyrs Mirror tells the story of Maeyken Wens, who was burned to death in 1573. After the crowd had dispersed, her son sifted through the ashes to retrieve the tongue screw that had been used to torture his mother. He kept the screw to remind him of her and her undying faith.

I could not find any mention of Maeyken Wens on Wikipedia. It seems she would be notable enough that WP would already have an article.

Thus, the existence of the tongue screw and Maeyken Wens should be treated with skepticism until reliable sources are found. The book Martyrs Mirror by Thieleman J. van Braght may be used as a source but I don't know how reliable it is. --Marc Kupper|talk 23:47, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

The boot "obviously based upon the thumbscrew"? How?
This very article says the thumbscrew was "first used in early modern Europe." Then this statement in the opener says "Obviously based upon the thumbscrew...the foot-crushing boot enjoyed extreme popularity in the torture chambers of medieval and Enlightenment France."

Clearly this makes no sense. How could the boot have been based on the thumbscrew if the boot was used in medieval France, and the thumbscrew wasn't used until the early modern period? The early modern thumbscrew would have been totally anachronistic in medieval France. Did the author of this sentence get them backwards? But I don't see any evidence that either device was "based on" either. There are dozens upon dozens of vise-like torture devices in history, all over the world. Asserting without any source that one must have been based on another is silly. Vises are simple enough that I think human beings are smart enough to figure out how to make one into a torture device on their own. There doesn't need to be a genetic relationship between two vise-like torture devices to explain how they got there. Crushing someone's body parts hurts. Doesn't take a genius (or a plagiarist) to figure that out. Aminomancer (talk) 09:03, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

This article doesn't describe how thumbscrews actually worked
As someone who doesn't actually know, I'm not equipped to rectify this. What was the precise means by which they actually caused pain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MickMcCarthy17 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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Glazing agent

A glazing agent is a natural or synthetic substance that provides a waxy, homogeneous coating to prevent water loss from a surface and provide other protection.

Natural
Natural glazing agents keep moisture inside plants and insects. Scientists harnessed this characteristic in coatings made of substances classified as waxes. A natural wax is chemically defined as an ester with a very long hydrocarbon chain that also includes a long chain alcohol.

Examples are:
 * Stearic acid (E570)
 * Beeswax (E901)
 * Candelilla wax (E902)
 * Carnauba wax (E903)
 * Shellac (E904)
 * Microcrystalline wax (E905c), Crystalline wax (E907)
 * Lanolin (E913)
 * Oxidized polyethylene wax (E914)
 * Esters of colophonium (E915)
 * Paraffin

Synthetic
Scientists have produced glazing agents that mimic their natural counterparts. These components are added in different proportions to achieve the optimal glazing agent for a product. Such products include cosmetics, automobiles and food.
 * Some of the characteristics that are looked for in all of the above industries are:
 * 1. Preservation - the glazing agent must protect the product from degradation and water loss. This characteristic can lead to a longer shelf life for a food or the longevity of a car without rusting.
 * 2. Stability - the glazing agent must maintain its integrity under pressure or heat.
 * 3. Uniform viscosity - this ensures a stronger protective coating that can be applied to the product as a homogeneous layer.
 * 4. Industrial reproduction - because most glazing agents are used on commercial goods and therefore large quantities of glazing agent may be needed.

There are different variations of glazing agents, depending on the product, but they are all designed for the same purpose.

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Picture?
A current picture of Head would be nice. (Drugyourlove (talk) 17:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC))

insecure?
Ok, so whos the one that's so insecure about being a Christian that they're going to write this mans Bio like an advertisment for sunday school? There is absolutely no need to mention the 'Christian household' bit. Referring to god and how he turned, repetedly, ......well, this is his bio. Not his Auto-Bio or a page for his "Christians love head" fan club. Go back an read that page--the image it leaves you with is 99% the opposite of what the entire world knows this person as he potrayed himself. The truth is cool...just not so much spin. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.132.185.100 (talk) 16:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Hardly
From what I can tell the biography reflects Brain Welch's life. "There is absolutely no need to mention the 'Christian household' bit". Unless of course he actually was raised in a Christian household (This fact was reported by CNN as well, and as such contributes to the article). In response to "99% the opposite". The reversal took place, Welch has publicly chosen to portray himself differently. To not detail this reversal in Welch's biography would be like writing a biography on Malcolm X and failing to mention that he converted to the Nation of Islam. In response to "the entire world knows". Are you citing the "entire world" as your source? In short, the above post doesn't seem to defend it's criticisms of the biography with any supporting evidence. It's not a perfect biography, but I don't think there's any real proof of "spin". Pariah98 08:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Foul-Mouthing about Korn in his Book
Go to www.billboard.com, or Head's official website, and see what this is all about. He's talking trash about Korn, the band that basically gave him everything: fame, money, and prominence. As "icing on the cake," his book will be released shortly before Korn's Untitled album. In the words of Jonathan Davis himself, "it's okay if you want to leave the band, but don't talk shit about us after you leave." Dark Executioner 16:38, 1 June 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner
 * Who cares if he's foul-mouthing Korn? It's his right to do so. Clearly he doesn't want the fame or money any more, and he left for a reason, which is what he's expressing now. "Jonathan Davis himself"? It sounds like you're glorifying Jon. I'm a fan of a lot of Korn's earlier music, but they are not infallible. Coconuteire 09:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * This is not the place for this discussion, but the sources I've read don't indicate that Welch was defaming them. When I interviewed him in 2005, he spoke very well of them, rather cordially, however he did indicate that he no longer was of the same values as they are. The suggestion that "they" (Korn) gave him everything that he has is rather salacious, considering they owe a great deal to him, being that musically he was the leader, while Davis was the lyricist. Much of their fame is owed to him, not the other way around. But anyway, this isn't the place to discuss this. linca  linca  07:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

what a load of bull crap, did you read it yourself? head and korn are fine again, they state that all the time in recent interviews. jonathan said he's ok with the book and it wasnt as bad as he expected since there were rumours it would be bashing the band. brian send them a copy with something like 'i love you, read it yourselves, it is what it is'. so korns new songs 'ever be' and 'love & luxury' dont make much sense lyricwise, though brian said maybe he deserved them for some stuff he said about korn right after he left. but no one is bashing anyone so dont stir up shit. btw head said he isn't sure about the title 'time to see religion die', and those old songs like 'kry' aren't on the album. it will be all heavy, guitar stuff. no offense, but watch and read more interviews if you're managing this article. there's too much crap and missing info.
 * You interviewed him, Lincalinca? Okay. Speaking to someone isn't really an interview. Either way, I haven't heard that it was "defaming" the band either, infact, I heard he is on good terms with the band as well, though that is disputed. The article (in that extent) is fine. IronCrow 02:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

he wasnt raised in a christian household. He says in his book that his parents didnt become christians untell after he did wich was way after he moved out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.115.16 (talk) 21:58, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Lead Guitarist?
There was never a lead guitarist in Korn, so I dont see the reasoning behind listing Head as the lead guitarist. I think it should be removed.--DevilsAlwaysCry 02:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I was under the impression that he was the lead guitarist and Shaffer was the rhythm guitarist until he left... there weren't any solos prior to him leaving, so it's hard to verify, but I think I came across that somewhere else a while ago. John R S 02:49, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * on the deuce dvd both of the guitarists state that head was the main guitarist and munky usually played off of him. i.e. head would write a riff and munky would play something that went well with it.65.43.213.210 14:45, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Read the title of his book. It states that he is the lead as one of the many proofs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

korn never head a clear lead guitarist, though they now refer too brian as one all the time in interviews and he doesn't correct them. i'm a korn fan but i dont really care and im sure brian does neither. its just marketing. 'lead guitarist' sounds more powerful, more important, than just 'guitarist' and so his lifechange looks more impressive and interesting to read about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.80.121.33 (talk) 14:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

In response to the person who said that Head was "not the lead guitarist," speak to anyone that worked for them before Brian left the band, and they will tell you differently. He was, indeed, the one who played any lead part and also wrote more of the guitar lines and riffs. Munky for years played the part of rhythm.

Last Paragraph
Deleted last paragraph, because it was subjective and sounded like an advertisement either for the book or for Christianity in general. 72.86.68.91 14:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Can someone please...
Upload the photo link I added?--Kornography (talk) 23:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Finding Jesus
I thought this guy had something in common with Vanilla Ice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.81.197 (talk) 01:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Head officially rejoins korn.
I have added the date that head officially rejoins Korn, as seen on his own personal website, and his twitter. 76.205.156.135 (talk) 20:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

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coin sizes
Hello. These images have not been scaled down. They are larger in size than the actual coin size, but the size is according to the Drewery Scale of proportion specifically designed for the euro coins. If they need to be made smaller- so be it, but the larger image shows more detail.

Any thoughts? Theeuro 04:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Mintage Quantities
I can't image a reason for anyone to object to putting mintage quantities in these articles, however before I continue to add these quantities to the "sister articles", has anyone any objection to the layout of this information? Kevin hipwell (talk) 21:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * After giving it some thought, it would make more sense to display the face value along horizontal cells and the years along vertical cells, I think this would be better because there will always be an addition of years as time goes by and no addition of denominations, so when updated the presentation of the table wont be comprimised.Kevin hipwell (talk) 01:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Here is a comparison

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin hipwell (talk • contribs) 02:33, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It is better with the year on the left instead of the denomination. Cheers. The € • T/C 04:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Kevin, apologies for the delay I am behind in catching up with Wikipedia now a days. I second Theeuro, the years on the left is better since they will continue growing, so teh table will expand downwards instead of to the right.

 * Also, on a similar topic, what di you mean by "/// = has not been minted, ??? = unknown as of yet, --- = only minted for sets"?

 * Thanks,Miguel.mateo (talk) 07:00, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

 * (///) represents no mintage, (???) represents unknown mintage, and (---) represents mintage of the coin for sets only.

 * Perhaps this is a little unclear. Kevin hipwell (talk) 07:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Rephrasing, so I can be clear with myself:

 * /// = 0 coins minted
 * --- = 0 coins for circulation, although some proof sets where minted, quantity unknown
 * ??? = N/A (not available yet)

correct? I might do a slight change so this information looks clearer.

Thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes that is correct, do whatever changes you think is necessary to make it clearer.Kevin hipwell (talk) 07:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Kevin,

I have done slight changes in the layout, let me know what you think. I can easily apply that for the other pages.

On a similar topic, reading the Austrian quantities, it was a bit odd for me that year 2007 they mintead almost all nominations in huge quantities but no 2 euro coins, which is supposed to be the year that the new map was introduced. So I went to check the source to see how come Austria minted no 2 euro coins with the new map. Then I saw that they have two extra collumns (2 Euro CC and 2 Euro CC2); which means that Austria in 2005 and 2007, decided to mint only 2 euro commemorative coins, and no normal 2 euro coins. Shouldn't those quantities be somewhere in the table too? I think one extra collumn for 2 euro commemorative is enough. What's yu opinion?

Thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 05:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Miguel, Yes I was aware that Austria never minted the normal €2 in 2005, 2007 quite unfortunate.

 * You are correct to insist that the €2 CC be added as they also circulate,
 * I excluded the €2 CC simply because another article covered them but this is no reason they should be excluded.

 * I think it would be necessary to have the 2 columns for CC as in 2007 many issued 2 €2 CC, it would quite contradictory to include the €2 CC and then treat the 2 €2 CC as though they where 1 coin.

 * BTW, your change to the "notes" is much better.Kevin hipwell (talk) 15:21, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Hi Kevin,

 * I've changed it slightly again, let me know what you think. I agree in principle with having two collumns for the 2euro comm. but Austria barely mints commemorative coins, so I do not see the need for two collums in this article, in ther other of course.  I have also reduced the table size, looks more compact and easier to read in low resolutions (learning from my own problems) :)

 * Reading the table again something caught my attention immediately: the low mintage for 10c coins in 2003. There should be a reason for that and it should be added to the table (if it is true), since the number looks like a mistake.  Do you know the reason?

 * Let me know your opinion, and of course feel free to change the table layout back to what it was if you disagree with the changes. Regards, Miguel.mateo (talk) 23:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Regarding the low mintage of 10c 2003, the central bank annual report of 2003 says that the mintage was 81 million, clearly very different, however it seems that the annual reports give different mintages for all the coins of all the years, I will have to confirm the reliability of the sources link:.
 * I will ask the currency center when I ring them about my order.

 * I think for the mintage numbers it would be best to have 'M' after each value eg: 378.4M to indicate the million as the text doesn't stand out enough IMO.

 * Of course Austria hasn't ever issued 2 €2 CC in the same year so it is unnecessary to have 2 columns, although this will not be the case next year.Kevin hipwell (talk) 14:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I am going to try find more sources for mintages to determine the accuracy of the current list Kevin hipwell (talk) 02:11, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

 * It appears that in 2003 the only Austrian 10c coins where in sets, 125.000 in BU & 25.000 in Proof.
 * Source: Austrian Mint issue values — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin hipwell (talk • contribs) 03:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you taking a review to the quantities already posted in the article? If not I can do that tomorrow as well ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 11:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Although I think the current source euro-auflagen is a great wealth of info, I would prefer to use the Austrian website as the source, as it is more "official".
 * I don't mind if you want to do that, as there is still a lot to be done such as:

 * finish the Gold & Silver articles.
 * bring up a discussion to include place of mint.
 * continue the work on the Euro proof set article.
 * Find out what "Diamond Quality" is (Finland sets)
 * review all mintage quantities
 * "sisterize" all the euro coin articles (basically that they are all coherent with each other)
 * create and complete an article for euro BU/FDC sets7

 * and probably more I haven't thought about yet. Kevin hipwell (talk) 15:32, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Oh men, you do have immagination! I can forthsee a long path to go here ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 03:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

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