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Talk:1991 Atlantic hurricane season

Images for each storm

 * Tropical Storm Ana
 * Hurricane Claudette
 * Tropical Storm Danny
 * Tropical Storm Erika
 * Tropical Storm Fabian
 * Hurricane Grace

 * Another year down. Hurricanehink 21:05, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks Storm05. Hurricanehink 16:42, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Added missing clear templates, but this is a minimal problem. Great work by adding the stormpics.

 * Thanks. I'll work on 1990 later on. Hurricanehink 23:10, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Damage?
If only one hurricane caused significant damage, which was bob that caused $1.5 B in damages, how can the total damages be $2.8 B?  Does the infobox incorrectly include damages from the Nor'easter? — jdorje (talk) 06:09, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I would guess the box included the nor'easter, which was technically a hurricane at some point. It is iffy what should be included, but one example supports using it. In 2005's infobox, it includes 1 death from Hurricane Maria, a death that did not occur until it became extratropical. They agreed there that extratropical stuff would be included if it was major, so I would guess the same applies here. After all, some of the beach erosion could have occurred when the storm was subtropical or a hurricane. Because it is impossible to differentiate, I say it should stay. However, after all of this, the total is, in fact, incorrect. It is the sum of Bob ($1.5 billion 1991 USD) and the Perfect Storm ($1.3 billion 2005 USD). I'll fix it to make it in 1991 and 2005 USD's. Hurricanehink 14:36, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

 * The 2005 death was from Maria's remnants. The Nor'easter was the origin of a hurricane but the hurricane had nothing whatsoever to do with any damage or deaths. — jdorje (talk) 19:27, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

 * True, but how do you know that the hurricane that formed did not cause any damage? Yes, that entire system caused the damage, but the hurricane could have contributed to the coastal beach erosion. Here's sort of an example I have. For Hurricane Gordon, it caused around 20 deaths in Guatemala as a precursor system. The whole system caused the deaths, but because it became Gordon they are attributed to Gordon's death toll. Hurricanehink 19:44, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Depressions
I finished 5 & 10-i had to alter the button bar to their correct positions. Now while i was working on it i was thinking maybe we should only talk about up to 4 depressions a season?I'm bringing this up because i am looking for info on TD7-13 for '87.HurricaneCraze32 19:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

 * I think all known TD's should be mention. Be careful on your wording. On TD10, for example, you say the storm formed with a weak circulation on the 23rd, and was named on the 24th. When a tropical depression forms, it is when it becomes a depression, not when it has a weak circulation. Someone should give a good copyedit to what you recently wrote, as it is low-quality writing. Hurricanehink 21:28, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Just 10 or also 2,4 & 5? HurricaneCraze32

 * All of them aren't particularly well-written. Hurricanehink 00:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * There was no report so i had to use the public advisories for 2,4,5, and somewhat for 10.Some of 10 is from the report.HurricaneCraze32

 * You could still make an attempt to write better. Hurricanehink 00:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Also, you're not logged in. Hurricanehink 00:18, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Class
Can this be upgraded to class? íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 02:37, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Not quite. More information is needed in each section, and the writing is poor in places. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 13:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Hurricane Eight
I don't mean to be too crtical, but the title of the storm summary for Hurricane Eight is 1991 Halloween Nor'easter, while the infobox for it is titled Hurricane Eight. The Nor'easter wasn't part of the hurricane season, but the Hurricane Eight was. It should be retitled Hurricane Eight. Also, the storm summary seems to be too much about the Nor'easter rather than the actual hurricane. HurricanesTyphoonsCyclones 21:22, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Two articles on Hurricane Eight
Question, why are there two articles on Hurricane Eight? See here 1991 unnamed hurricane and 1991 Perfect Storm. There should be no reason to have two articles on the same cyclone. --12george1 (talk) 02:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * They're not the same storm... – Juliancolton  | Talk 02:13, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I see what your thinking. The 1991 Perfect Storm article seems to be about the same storm just with a little more details, such as impact, fatalities, and damage. But I have to tell you, why is this picture used for the main picture of both articles? --12george1 (talk) 02:26, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, I didn't say that; the Perfect Storm was the nor'easter that preceded the unnamed hurricane, so they're different storms. The infobox picture in the nor'easter article needs to be replaced. – Juliancolton  | Talk 05:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Merging timeline
I just noticed there was a timeline article. Given that there weren't many storms co-active, and that the season is featured (and has more info than the timeline), I propose the timeline be merged. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 00:43, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Seeing a lack of opposition, I'm going to go ahead and do it. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:41, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I reverted the merger per WP:BRD. There was no support for the merger, and 1991 AHS did have three storms active at once. Eight storms is info for a timeline in the ATL IMO. YE  Pacific   Hurricane
 * Still, I am going to support the merging of the timeline; I agree with Hink.  HurricaneFan 25  01:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * YE, you also reverted some additions to the main article that were useful. Why is that? --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

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Talk:1990 Atlantic hurricane season

Templates
Not complaining, but the 1990, 1993, 1994 templates are missing. juan andrés 21:08, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Pacific hurricane seasons are just getting ignored! juan andrés 21:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Finally I've just found what to do with this templates (actually I found it how in the 2005 Pacific hurricane season talk) and they could be just added to the remaining seasons. juan andrés 02:11, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Images for each storm

 * Tropical Storm Arthur
 * Hurricane Bonnie
 * Tropical Storm Cesar
 * Tropical Storm Edouard
 * Tropical Storm Fran
 * Hurricane Gustav
 * Tropical Storm Hortense
 * Hurricane Isidore
 * Hurricane Josephine
 * Hurricane Lili
 * Tropical Storm Marco
 * Hurricane Nana

 * Nice and quick, this season is done. Diana and Klaus are in their respective articles. Hurricanehink 01:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

"Storm strength"
Starting with the 1989 season, I've noticed a lot of text says "It reached storm strength". This is bad, and should not be used. "Storm" is too generic to use it as a shortening of tropical storm or subtropical storm. We need to write out "It reached tropical storm strength", or better yet "It became a tropical storm". — jdorje (talk) 23:56, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depressions
Did the NHC start tracking these in 1991? I've been looking for infomation for earlier storms. Good kitty 22:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

 * 1991 is when good records began for TD's. Before then is sporadic in finding out the depression info. The only thing I can think of is articles by the American Meteorological Society. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I see. I put the two depressions in a section towards the end labeled "Other storms". They were really nothing more than a sentence or two, plus there wasn't enough information to create infoboxes around them. I think that articles earlier than 1990 should also have the TDs down there because there isn't any data available online for them. Good kitty 22:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Todo
If this article goes for FAC at any point, there are some details which need fixing to keep things consistent within this article.
 * As pointed out in GAN, the tracks for the TD's should be included within the season map. Since we have the tracks in wikipedia already within the TD sections, I doubt this would be difficult for the people who know how to do this.  I do not, or I'd have done it myself.
 * I'll try and remember to do this when I get home later today. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 11:33, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The coloration within the satellite images should be similar. This means that the TD1, TD11, and Edouard images should have the false color added to them that the other images have.  Again, I'm not familiar with the color pallete used or I'd do it myself.
 * If any sources can be found, TD11 was handled twice by NHC operationally (in real-time), and most of its movement appeared to occur during the time of the downgrade. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:42, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

contradiction: previous season with no US landfall
the article now contradicts itself as to what previous season(s) had no tropical storm landfall in the US — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcus Licinius Crassus (talk • contribs) 04:44, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed merge of Hurricane Lili (1990) into 1990 Atlantic hurricane season
Fails WP:NWX since there was minimal impact reported. Most of this is already summarized within the season article. Noah, AATalk 14:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support merge Falls short of the notability threshold for a stand-alone storm article, and given its small size, the article can easily be merged. Drdpw (talk) 02:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support - the season article is on the short side, and could benefit from having the additional content. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 01:48, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:1989 Atlantic hurricane season

Images for each storm

 * Tropical Storm Allison - Either this one or the one from infobox from article can be used
 * Tropical Storm Barry
 * Huricane Chantal
 * Hurricane Dean
 * Hurricane Erin
 * Hurricane Felix
 * Hurricane Gabrielle
 * Tropical Storm Iris
 * Tropical Storm Jerry
 * Tropical Storm Karen

 * Done. Hurricanehink 04:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Everything on its place, work done! juan andrés 02:03, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Well done! Hurricanehink 02:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I realized of a big error, in all the 80's hurricane seasons I put "track map" instead of "storm track". juan andrés 23:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Everything looks fine, so I don't think you have to worry. Hurricanehink 00:23, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Why is this page protected? All of those IP edits were good, IMO. All it did was add the fancy storm pics table thing. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 12:51, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Look at them more carefully. They take out vital information. Chacor 13:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I happened to agree with Hurricanehink. I don't get it when you say "take out vital info". If I was editing the page, I could have done something similar to those edits. *gasps* RaNdOm26 15:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Let me find the necessary diffs for you. Chacor 15:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Adds nonsense to the top, takes out link to articles on Allison and Chantal. Subtle vandalism that's difficult to spot. Chacor 15:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * OOOOOOHHHHHH! That's cheeky. RaNdOm26 15:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be easier to just add the summaries back in? The fancy storm pics aren't unneeded, and they only removed two or three summaries. I wouldn't consider that vandalism. Maybe it's just assuming good faith, but I believe they didn't intend to remove the summaries. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Its also incorrect though Hink the min pressure of Gabrielle in the addition is 941 mb but the TCR reports 935. One factual error in addition to the nonsense at the top and the subtle vandalism. It should be done from scratch carefully (don't use the anons version).--Nilfanion (talk) 17:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm, ok, I was just checking. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright, that's it. I am gonna put back some of the good info being reverted and correcting some of it, just because I'm nice. :P RaNdOm26 09:26, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Remember not to use the IP's version. Chacor 09:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * And why not? I need to use some of the IP's version for the "fancy storm pics table thing". I'm not stupid. RaNdOm26 09:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * As Nilfanion said above, it's best to start from scratch. The template you want is infobox hurricane small. The talk page of the template should describe its usage. Chacor 09:37, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There's something that has REALLY irritated me. Those infoboxes give too much info and they don't show up in the main page, such as Total damages, Total fatalities and Areas affected. The 2004 hurricane season article has exactly the same problem. What's going on here??? Is it appropriate to remove those unnecessary info? RaNdOm26 09:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

(Unindented for convenience) Yes, it is. The template infobox hurricane small isn't infobox hurricane. It's a condensed version which doesn't have info about damages, fatalities or areas affected. Chacor 09:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I am getting the info from the Unisys website. Is this site give official stats or not? If not, what is, and what is a link to that site? I noticed Gabrielle has a low pressure of 927 hPa, instead of 935. RaNdOm26 09:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Unisys is completely unofficial, all the official information comes from the National Hurricane Center's Tropical Cyclone Reports. Chacor 10:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there a link? I don't even know how to get to the reports for 1989 in the site. RaNdOm26 10:05, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * 1989's TCRs are very, very messy (they're all split up into images, scanned, as seen by Nilfanion's link above). Chacor 10:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm quitting. RaNdOm26 10:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depressions
Here's a link to the tropical depressions of this year. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * They have the wallet for TD 13 in the wrong folder.Potapych (talk) 22:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Issues
The project discussed a couple weeks ago that we should be using our track maps versus the NHC track maps, so the track map needs to be swapped out. Also, the article is missing a timeline, which all of our GA/FA season articles have. The use of non-breaking spaces is non-uniform in the article. If you're going to use them between dates (like in the middle of June 13), it should be done that way throughout the article. I added missing nbsps into the lead. It does not appear that November 30 has been referenced as the ending date of the 1989 season, or the the hurricane season is when most of the activity typically occurs, so I added fact tags. I have upgraded the article to C class since it looks reasonable complete, has proper structure, and has many references. Thegreatdr (talk) 14:01, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I finished on those problems you had like four days ago. So is there more, or is this thing ready for GA, I mean GA review?--12george1 (talk) 16:47, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Those were the main potential stumbling blocks I saw. GAR should be an easier task now, for whomever wishes to review it.  Thegreatdr (talk) 17:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

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Felix article requested merge
I suggest this article not be merged. It is a tropical cyclone that made landfall in Cape Verde. Landfalls there are very rare, and it is also notable for an unusual track. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 14:38, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * But when it made landfall, there was no impact . That's the important part — not its meteorological rarity, its effects.  HurricaneFan 25  14:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * None of the sources listed say the storm hit Cape Verde, nor did they say the track was unusual, so both of your claims are unsourced. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:57, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I merged it. YE  Pacific   Hurricane  15:17, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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Talk:1986 Atlantic hurricane season

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 * Tropical Storm Andrew
 * Hurricane Bonnie
 * Tropical Storm Danielle
 * Hurricane Earl
 * Hurricane Frances

 * Nice and easy. Hurricanehink 14:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Todo
Generally the storm histories should be made a little more detailed. A couple of them don't even have dates given. — jdorje (talk) 08:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I think the only thing the Danielle and Earl need is the dates and their references. Earl stayed out to sea and Danielle was a minimal tropical storm. juan andrés 03:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I added more information to tropical storm Danielle, I hope you like it. If you don't like it, please modify it without mercy. juan andrés 03:24, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry, added forgotten information about the formation as a tropical depression. juan andrés 03:31, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Good work. Make sure to check your spelling.  And don't use unless there's a section already in the article...just use inline links. — jdorje (talk) 03:37, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Finished Earl report. Dates added. juan andrés 23:25, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

 * 201.130.162.111 its me, juan andrés 23:25, 14 February 2006 (UTC). Also corrected myself, taken off many "and"s

frustration
UGHHH!, this is ridiculous!, why put a tcexpand banner if no one talks about it, all it does it just clutters up the seasonal article and degrades it, im removing this banner. Storm05 18:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

 * THERE IS NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT. The section needs to be expanded. That's all. — jdorje (talk) 20:19, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, I added more information to the section of Earl, but if the article needs more info, what can we do? It's an article, and naturally, needs to be improved every day. Everybody can say that banners are horrible in an article, but when article is need to be improved, they are very necessary. So I can't take out the banner until the section gets improved. juan andrés 19:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I disagree. You added enough, and it doesn't need to be improved any more. Good work. I removed the expand banner. Hurricanehink 20:00, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. juan andrés 03:54, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I would like to know which are the criteria for putting the categories Stub, Start, Class B, Class A and FA. I will be very thankful. juan andrés 04:00, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

 * The criteria haven't been discussed thorougly. You can see the criteria for pages in general at the  category.  However nobody really spoke up when we were talking about them so I worked up my own tc-specific criteria when assessing them.  For season articles, to be B-class it needs to have a non-stub mention of each storm.  The  entries I added to some AHS season articles are because individual storms don't have enough detail.  Good work improving the Earl section - I was too hasty in reverting storm05's edit (which itself concealed your change from my watchlist), and frustrated because he removed tcexpand from a number of articles simultaneously - all but this one were, I believe, unchanged from when the tcexpand was put there. — jdorje (talk) 08:48, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Another possible storm?
I was just looking through the archives, and this looks like a TD or a storm. Does anyone have the list of depressions from the year? Don't worry, I'm not going to add it in to the article. I was just curious if it was actually a TD. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 * ftp://eclipse.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/isccp/b1/.D2790P/images/1986/243/Img-1986-08-31-18-MET-2-VS.jpg
 * There's another one in late May that struck Belize and moved across Southeast Mexico during the first couple days of June. Looks like it was at least a TD.  Thegreatdr 15:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Good find, that does look nice. Oddly, it looked better over southeast Mexico than it did over Belize. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:14, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

 * There was a tropical depression known as T.D. 4.Mitchazenia 16:28, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

 * That occurred in August in the Gulf of Mexico, and isn't either of the aforementioned systems. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 16:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I did a little digging and discovered that San Francisco did classify it as TD 2E after it crossed Central America. I should have something online for that system on the rainfall project within the next week or two.  Thegreatdr 20:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's cool. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

That particular system has a write up on page 2510 and 2512 of this year's MWR. The EPac MWR says it was just a disturbance in the Atlantic and that it lasted 12 hours only. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 00:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Additional TD info
Here is additional TD information. It is not reference-able, but should aid your search for information elsewhere. Happy hunting. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 10900 7/23/1986 M= 6  1 SNBR= 174            XING=0   TD3
 * 10910 7/23*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*240 549  20    0*243 561  20    0*
 * 10920 7/24*246 575  20    0*248 589  25    0*250 600  25    0*255 610  25    0*
 * 10930 7/25*260 618  25    0*264 623  25    0*270 630  25    0*279 638  30    0*
 * 10940 7/26*285 642  30    0*294 649  30    0*300 655  30    0*312 653  25    0*
 * 10950 7/27*320 652  25    0*330 651  25    0*340 650  25    0*360 639  25    0*
 * 10960 7/28*378 625  20    0*385 610  20    0*412 598  20    0*  0   0   0    0*
 * 10970 TD
 * 11020 8/30/1986 M= 6  3 SNBR= 176            XING=0   TD5
 * 11030 8/30*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*125 345  20    0*128 358  25    0*
 * 11040 8/31*130 370  25    0*132 382  25    0*133 395  25    0*138 408  30    0*
 * 11050 9/ 1*140 420  30    0*142 432  30    0*145 445  30    0*160 460  30    0*
 * 11060 9/ 2*170 470  30    0*182 482  30    0*194 497  30    0*208 509  30    0*
 * 11070 9/ 3*219 520  30    0*230 530  30    0*240 540  25    0*260 547  25    0*
 * 11080 9/ 4*272 552  25    0*290 556  25    0*308 560  20    0*  0   0   0    0*
 * 11090 TD
 * 11100 9/ 1/1986 M= 4  4 SNBR= 177            XING=0   TD6
 * 11110 9/ 1*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*176 862  20    0*180 878  20    0*
 * 11120 9/ 2*185 888  20    0*190 900  20    0*192 910  25    0*197 920  25    0*
 * 11130 9/ 3*200 930  25    0*202 940  30    0*207 950  30    0*211 961  30    0*
 * 11140 9/ 4*218 971  25    0*221 980  25    0*229 990   0    0*  0   0   0    0*
 * 11150 TD
 * Was Charley not given a number? It should be the fifth tropical depression.Potapych (talk) 15:37, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oy. Charley was assigned a number in real time.  After consulting my database, the system previously listed as TD4 above was not assigned to be a TD until after the fact.  Thegreatdr (talk) 09:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

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Images for Each Storm

 * Tropical Storm Ana
 * Hurricane Bob
 * Hurricane Claudette
 * Hurricane Danny
 * Tropical Storm Fabian
 * Tropical Storm Henri
 * Tropical Storm Isabel

 * Another one down. Hurricanehink 22:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Work finished, also added 1985 season buttons template juan andrés 01:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Good job. This is one of those seasons where a button bar is a good idea, due to the fact there are 4 seasonal articles. Hurricanehink 01:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I found some images for the Pacific season, 2005 in a NOAA site. Can I upload them? juan andrés 02:07, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Can't hurt. As long as it is in the public domain, you can put them either in the talk page or on the main article. Hurricanehink 02:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * OK. Here is the link

Elena
How much damage did Elene do? The intro and the storms section give two different numbers. And there is no reference so the information is not verifiable. — jdorje (talk) 05:37, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Gloria
The Gloria bit is wrong I think, however sources for this might be conflicting; this one might have been changed during the re-analysis and modern numbers seem inconsistent. For instance the best-track reports that Gloria crossed Cape Hatteras as a Category 2 hurricane, but marks it down as an NC3 and NY3 (category 3 winds in NC and NY). The NHC FAQ says gloria made landfall as a Cat3 with 942 mbar pressure (that would be at Cape Hatteras). This article doesn't even mention a hatteras landfall. — jdorje (talk) 05:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Weak article
Of the season articles, 1950-1985, this one has the most factual problems. Someone needs to give this article some attention. — jdorje (talk) 06:07, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

 * The writing in this article was also particularly poor. I'd say the whole thing should be checked. — jdorje (talk) 06:09, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depression 13 in December?
I heard TD-13 formed on December 7 in the Caribbean. GIBBS backs me up, but I can't find a resource so we can't put it in the article. It definatley deserves a mention. Cycl one1  (00:29-23-07-2007)

Here's some TD info for 1985. It's for information use only and meant to be an aid to your search for information. Happy hunting. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 10800 9/11/1985 M= 3  2 SNBR= 172            XING=0   TD6
 * 10810 9/11*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*115 605  25    0*120 612  30    0*
 * 10820 9/12*124 622  30    0*128 632  30    0*129 641  30    0*131 656  30    0*
 * 10830 9/13*134 670  30    0*138 685  30    0*140 700  25    0*142 718  20    0*
 * 10840 TD
 * 10850 12/ 7/1985 M= 3 3 SNBR= 173            XING=0   TD13
 * 10860 12/ 7* 0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*112 770  20    0*111 775  20    0*
 * 10870 12/ 8*110 779 25    0*109 783  25    0*106 788  30    0*103 794  30    0*
 * 10880 12/ 9*102 798 30    0*100 802  25    0* 98 805  25    0* 95 810  20    0*
 * 10890 TD
 * I'll insert these two sections into the article. Hopefully someone with access to news wire archives can finish the research.Potapych (talk) 20:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Record US landfalls
What counts as a landfall? If you only count the number of storms that actually came ashore, this season is tied for first with 2004 (excluding Alex; with Alex included, 2004 is the record holder with 9). '05s Ophelia did not come ashore, but is counted as a landfall because the eyewall crossed the coast. Without her, 2005 isn't even tied; only seven others made landfall in the US (Arlene, Cindy, Dennis, Katrina, Rita, Tammy, and Wilma). 2004, minus Alex, had Bonnie, Charley, Frances, Gaston, Hermine, Ivan, Jeanne and Matthew. Surprisingly, 2002 had 8 as well (Bertha, Edouard, Fay, Gustav, Hanna, Isidore, Kyle and Lili). However, of those, Lili was the only hurricane. Going arcaeic, other seasons jump in the mix. 1933 had 8 if you include Storm 18, which undoubtedly brought hurricane force winds to the Florida Keys. 1916 also had 8. That season also matched the seemingly unbeatable record of 6 hurricane landfalls. With that many tied with 8, I'm not sure how notable the fact is. Only 2004's 9 stands above the crowd. -- § Hurricane E  RIC  archive 00:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

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Image sources
Where do you find those satellite images? juan andrés 02:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Below. ;) Really, though, the website is located http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/rsad/gibbs/gibbs.html It has satellite images of the entire world, every three hours, for every year back to 1983. I will get 1983's Atlantic ones tomorrow, though the rest of the world is up for grabs. Hurricanehink 02:58, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * OK :) juan andrés 05:08, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Hurricanehink, I'm bringing good news, there will not be to much work tomorrow, only 3 storms to upload. Alicia is in the infobox ;) juan andrés 05:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Sweet, and I think the Monthly Weather Review has all three of them. Hurricanehink 13:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Images of each storm

 * Subtropical Storm One
 * Tropical Storm Arthur
 * Tropical Storm Bertha
 * Tropical Storm Cesar
 * Tropical Storm Edouard
 * Tropical Storm Fran
 * Tropical Storm Gustav
 * Hurricane Hortense
 * Tropical Storm Isidore
 * Hurricane Josephine
 * Hurricane Klaus

 * Done. 3 more to go. Hurricanehink 02:46, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Wont be storm pics for 1979 season and older?
Just asking juan andrés 04:07, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * The only problem is the website I'm using only goes back to 1983, and the Monthly Weather Review has pictures for every storm for 1981 and 1982. 1979 and 1978 don't have any, but 1977 and I believe 1976 can be done once I finish 1983-2004. Hurricanehink 13:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Edouard
Edouard was quite a storm. Jdorje 04:26, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Agreed. A rare fish Gulf of Mexico storm, though much of its large circulation was over land. Hurricanehink 13:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Good, thanks. Hurricanehink 02:33, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Done
This page work is already over. I hope you like. juan andrés 02:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Seeing Double
Is im seeing double? or that Hurricane Josephine (1984) picture looks excatily like the Hurricane Bertha (1990) picture?

Storm05 18:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Wow, they are pretty similar! Hurricanehink 00:38, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Just fixing the Bertha image to be at Bertha (check the page history to see why).--Nilfanion (talk) 22:33, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Heads up - Late November 1984 Nor'easter
A new article is located at November 1984 Nor'easter in anticipation of a deep closed cyclone offshore Florida in the next few days, since it might be a good parallel to the upcoming event. Why does it require a mention in this article? Because there is a reference mentioning that it may have briefly transitioned into a tropical or subtropical cyclone late in its life cycle near Bermuda. The cyclone is currently not included in the NHC hurricane track database. I will leave it up to you all whether you want it included into this article. Just an FYI. Thegreatdr 04:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Possible September Storm
This article covers a possible tropical storm that struck Texas in September which dropped heavy rainfall. It might be worth putting into an Other storms section, along with the aforementioned November nor'easter. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Some tropical depression information
Note that this is for information use only, and not reference-able. It should help you in your search for information. Happy hunting. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 10320 6/11/1984 M= 4  1 SNBR= 164            XING=0   TD1
 * 10330 6/11*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*280 755  20    0*282 758  25    0*
 * 10340 6/12*284 765  25    0*287 772  30    0*289 778  30    0*290 783  30    0*
 * 10350 6/13*292 791  30    0*296 799  30    0*298 803  25    0*299 810  25    0*
 * 10360 6/14*302 818   0    0*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*
 * 10370 TD
 * 10380 6/18/1984 M= 3  2 SNBR= 165            XING=0   TD2
 * 10390 6/18*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*205 940  20    0*208 948  20    0*
 * 10400 6/19*210 955  25    0*212 962  25    0*216 968  30    0*219 972  30    0*
 * 10410 6/20*221 980  30    0*227 985   0    0*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*
 * 10420 TD
 * 10430 7/24/1984 M= 3  3 SNBR= 166            XING=0   TD3
 * 10440 7/24*  0   0   0    0*118 478  25    0*120 500  25    0*127 521  25    0*
 * 10450 7/25*130 545  30    0*133 569  30    0*139 590  30    0*142 615  30    0*
 * 10460 7/26*145 635  30    0*148 658  25    0*150 680  25    0*152 702  20    0*
 * 10470 TD
 * 10530 9/ 6/1984 M= 3  5 SNBR= 168            XING=0   TD7
 * 10540 9/ 6*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*210 960  20    0*213 961  25    0*
 * 10550 9/ 7*218 963  25    0*220 966  30    0*223 968  30    0*227 971  30    0*
 * 10560 9/ 8*230 978  25    0*232 981   0    0*  0   0   0    0*  0   0   0    0*
 * 10570 TD

Tropical Depression number for 1984
This has become a minor issue lately as to whether there were 17, 18, or 19 TDs in 1984. If you use NHC's non-development database, you could come up with 20, though one was clearly an extratropical cyclone on NMC surface weather maps when it was near Florida, which is why 20 isn't viable. The system in their non-developmental database in early August northeast of Bermuda was well out at sea and at the limb of Meteosat imagery in the cold sector of the main polar front (it nearly appears frontal itself though from that angle it's questionable). Another question is whether we are to follow current guidelines (where subtropical and tropical depression numbers are counted together) or 1984 guidelines, where subtropical storms/depressions were on a different numbering system? Curious what you all think, because I'm not clear. Thegreatdr (talk) 15:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Hurricane Lili (1984) into 1984 Atlantic hurricane season
Fails WP:NWX since there was minimal damage. Some text from this article could be incorporated into the season article. Noah, AATalk 14:27, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Support As the article is tiny and can clearly fit. 108.58.37.250 (talk) 22:07, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support merge – There is little there that justifies a standalone article for this hurricane. All pertinent and noteworthy details from this thin article can easily fit into the season article. Drdpw (talk) 21:07, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. Not that significant of an off-season storm, even if it was one of only a few December hurricanes (Nicole 98 didn't last either). ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 23:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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Images for each storm

 * Hurricane Alicia- Either this one or the one from the article, you decide
 * Hurricane Barry- I also have one of it over the Bahamas, located here
 * Hurricane Chantal
 * Tropical Storm Dean

 * Done. Nice and easy. Hurricanehink 14:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Fastly done juan andrés 03:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Assessment
Extremely close to B-class. However, the TDs need their own sections, with infoboxes. If the intensity was unknown, you can say that in the infobox/paragraph unless you're able to find out the information. --Core desat  20:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I got the e-mail, no info outside the four storms.Mitchazenia 20:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm holding off any further assessment pending a reply to an e-mail I sent the NHC about TD6 - it's the missing system in the various archives. --Core desat  01:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I set at B class. I'd still like to see a better opening sentence, perhaps, The 1983 Atlantic hurricane season was the least active Atlantic hurricane season in 53 years, which could then cite hurdat. Also, be sure units are similar. Chantal in particular isn't good. Ref similarity is needed. The ref should come just after the . in the sentence, as well. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 02:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

GA Pass

 * Well-written - Pass. Just one typo, which I fixed. In some places prose could be better, but all in all pretty good.
 * Factually accurate - Pass. I noticed a few places which could use sources, though I know they are true. First, "ending what was (as of the 2006 season) the longest such gap recorded." Hurdat would suffice, or, ideally, find a NOAA document saying it. Second, "The first storm formed on August 15 which, on average, is a late start." Citing the NHC climatology page works.
 * Broad in coverage - Pass. One recommendation I have is merging the depressions section. There is a lot of blank space as it is. You can just copy over the prose, and include one image. No infobox is needed, as pressure data is unavailable and the section title would clearly say tropical depressions.
 * Non-Pov - Pass
 * Stable - Pass
 * Images - Pass, though maybe try bugging Nilfanion or someone else with a track map generator to get a better track map image for the infobox.

Good job Mitchazenia and Coredesat. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

TD6 - Did it exist?
I recently got a reply from the National Hurricane Center on the Tropical Depression Six status. Apparently is was tracked operationally, but in post-analysis was demoted from depression status. So if anyone's confused on the depression, that would be why.Mitch32contribs 22:03, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

The e-mail
Here's the e-mail (Note my first name is Adam not Mitch):

Adam: Thank you for your e-mail. A post-season analysis on TD6 indicated that it was not a TD after all, and was dropped from the season archives.Discussions on the other two TDs are found in the Monthly Weather Review, which publishes the complete and official report by the NHC specialists.

Regards, Dennis Feltgen

Public Affairs Officer

Meteorologist

National Hurricane Center

Miami, Florida

That pretty much says it all.Mitch32contribs 22:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. But I don't see a reference to any TDs in the article that you put as a reference (I read it twice).  The non-development tropical system file seems to support your claim, but is unreferenceable for the time being.  I've placed a fact tag where the statements were made.  Point me to the reference that mentions this fact, and we can remove the fact tags.  As a side note, FA articles can't have fact tags, so respond soon.  Thegreatdr (talk) 19:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

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System Dates
How do we deal with the system dates on this article? I ask as according to HURDAT TD 1 formed and dissipated, before July 29, which is when this article reckons the tropical depression formed. However, the storm wallets point me to believe that the depression formed early on the 28th per UTC.Jason Rees (talk) 19:14, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

For the first 2 depressions there are contradictory dates between the article and the infoboxes. Brutannica (talk) 16:54, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hurricane Alicia
According to that article, Alicia was determined to be a hurricane on the 17th, not the 16th. It was named as a tropical storm on the 15th. - Dank (push to talk) 01:27, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Tropical Storm Dean (1983) into 1983 Atlantic hurricane season
Fails on notability grounds since the impact falls under WP:ROUTINE. The season article is small enough as it is so I see no reason for this to exist. Noah, AATalk 14:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

 * Weak oppose. Yes the season article is short, and yes the impacts were fairly routine, but Dean was one of only a handful of storms to hit Virginia, so I think it is notable enough. I also feel that the impacts, while minor, would be too much to merge. Any time when dealing with a potential merge, I usually try to see what the section would look like, and it just seemed too long to be appropriate. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 03:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose I also found WP:SUSTAINED coverage, even very recent ones! 108.58.37.250 (talk) 21:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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Beryl a Hurricane?
Beryl's winds were measured at 63 knots, which nowadays is rounded up to the nearest 5...65 knots, hurricane strength. Thoughts? -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 22:44, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Good question. I would say in the re-analysis of the Hurricane Database, it will be upgraded. Hurricanehink 22:46, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

 * What's good about having your own, personal hurricane database is that you can make your own objective descisions. I list Beryl in my database as a hurricane. If Beryl happened today, I'm convinced it would be designated a hurricane. But such a change is not allowed here per the original research policy. -- Hurricane Eric archive -- my dropsonde 02:05, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Because such a decision is not objective. Jdorje 01:53, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I've found in Ernesto's report that an aircraft found winds around the same as Beryl's, at 62 knots.Mitchazenia V3.0 21:08, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Images for each storm

 * Hurricane Alberto
 * Subtropical Storm One
 * Tropical Storm Beryl- This is an edited version of the one from the article.
 * Tropical Storm Chris
 * Hurricane Debby
 * Ernesto- Bad news. There's no Ernesto picture. :(

 * Well, I couldn't get all of them... It was bound to happen :( 1981 might be similar to this. I'll do that year later. Hurricanehink 20:11, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm really sorry. But work done :) juan andrés 04:27, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

B-Class yet?
Well, here's my work so far:

 * 1) Lengthened Ernesto.
 * 2) Added a seasonal activity section.
 * 3) Referneces added.
 * 4) Chris has more impact.

Think its ready?Mitchazenia V3.0 21:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

 * undefined is needed throughout the entire article. The sections need better storm histories. The whole thing needs a copyedit. Useless things should be trimmed (like mentioning SS1 was the first subtropical storm; it was the only subtropical storm). In general, act as if you were writing individual articles for each storm. That's what's needed for each section; good storm history covering the basics, and impact for everywhere it affected. Research a bit. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Can you do the cite web-as i am no good at it.Mitchazenia V3.0 21:23, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

 * You gotta learn :P Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:40, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I've tried. I went poorly.Mitchazenia V3.0 22:00, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Which is why you should experiment and keep trying until it works. Remember, you need to cite every last statement in the entire article. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 22:08, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I think it is now B-class as the sections were expanded and cited. CrazyC83 (talk) 16:52, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

TODO

 * Add Infoboxes
 * Expand the beginning

Ernesto picture
This will be biting me for ages. I know that's Ernesto, but I really believe a more "complete" picture can be found, so I uploaded this IR image as a placeholder until a better image can be found, which I'm working on. Jake52 My talk 07:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * There's probably one in the CLASS archives. You might be able to use old (1978-85) GAC data if you have a registered version of HRPT Reader. Good kitty 17:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Replaced with a FAR better image. Jake52 My talk 20:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * What's the source for that? The source you provided looks nothing like the image in the article. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, little misstep there, that's the profile on the old picture. Hold on, I'll upload the picture with the updated data. Jake52 My talk 20:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I used the CLASS GAC archives to do Ernesto here and, as an epilogue, I uploaded all storms in need of pictures to the 79 season. I will do Katrina (81) later, but after Katrina, I'll be occupied with picture searching on recent storms so we have the best pictures for the best articles. Jake52 My talk 22:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 23:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Very nice. Frvernchanezzz (talk) 07:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Some TD info
While not reference-able, this should help you out information-wise. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 10030 9/ 6/1982 M= 4  1 SNBR= 160            XING=0   Tropical Depression #3
 * 10040 9/ 6*168 530  20    0*169 541  25    0*170 551  25    0*177 562  30    0*
 * 10050 9/ 7*180 572  30    0*186 582  30    0*190 590  30    0*195 602  30    0*
 * 10060 9/ 8*200 612  30    0*204 622  30    0*210 630  30    0*218 640  30    0*
 * 10070 9/ 9*224 649  25    0*232 655  25    0*240 660  20    0*  0   0   0    0*
 * 10080 TD
 * 9/16-20/1982   Tropical Depression #6       Tropical Atlantic
 * 10090 9/24/1982 M= 4  2 SNBR= 161            XING=0   Tropical Depression #7
 * 10100 9/24*253 715  20    0*260 725  25    0*271 730  25    0*281 721  30    0*
 * 10110 9/25*290 715  30    0*300 706  30    0*310 696  30    0*323 685  30    0*
 * 10120 9/26*335 675  30    0*348 662  30    0*360 650  30    0*370 640  30    0*
 * 10130 9/27*380 630  25    0*392 615  25    0*401 601  20    0*  0   0   0    0*
 * 10140 TD
 * Tropical Depression 3, surprisingly, has been a hard system to find a reference for. Once we find one, we can probably submit this article for GA.  Thegreatdr (talk) 01:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 10140 TD
 * Tropical Depression 3, surprisingly, has been a hard system to find a reference for. Once we find one, we can probably submit this article for GA.  Thegreatdr (talk) 01:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Todo
Here's a quick look-through.

 * Longer lede (probably merge season impact with lede, since that section is redundant)
 * Better infobox image (use one of the nice maps we have)
 * Update to (and add) 2008 USD
 * Make sure all units are correct, both and rounding and in spacing
 * Expand impact in Alberto and SS1
 * Add locations to key events in a storm history, to help readers understand where the storm is
 * SS1 needs a source for the first paragraph
 * TD3 needs a source
 * Check for spelling errors and grammar errors; also read through it to make sure the storm history makes sense to both non-experts and experts alike. These are some troublesome sentences
 * Debby began life as a tropical wave that degenerated shortly after leaving the coast of Africa
 * took an almost straight course to the northeast for its entire life

♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 23:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed first, sixth, seventh, and eighth items (I believe.) We still need track images added before submitting to GA.  The problem is, a track for TD6 does not appear to exist in any formal or informal database at the current time.  Thegreatdr (talk) 14:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe the items above are fixed, so I've submitted the article for GAN. Thegreatdr (talk) 04:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:1988 Atlantic hurricane season

Images for each storm

 * Tropical Storm Alberto
 * Tropical Storm Beryl
 * Tropical Storm Chris
 * Hurricane Debby
 * Tropical Storm Ernesto
 * Tropical Storm Six
 * Hurricane Florence
 * Hurricane Helene
 * Tropical Storm Isaac
 * Tropical Storm Keith

 * Another year down. Hurricanehink 15:06, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

 * As always, the pictures are great. Are far back do you think you're going to be getting these types of pictures? Are you using that historical satellite imagery (>1983) site? -- RattleMan 15:29, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I'm going back to 1983 with the historical satellite imagery site. Earlier than that I'm not sure, but will upload every picture I see for every storm, important or not. I will be able to do 1982 and 1981 based on the Monthly Weather Review, but there's nothing for 1980, with the exception of Allen. I suppose we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Hurricanehink 15:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Todo
This article needs some love. The three major hurricanes are the ones that have the least detail, quite backwards from what it should be. — jdorje (talk) 21:49, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Trouble with numbers
Why the title of the unnamed storm is thirteen and not unnamed or six. juan andrés 03:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * It was the 13th TD. Hurricanehink 12:34, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Ahhh, thank you juan andrés 20:10, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Tropical Depressions
Here's a page with information on each of the tropical depressions that did not become tropical storms. Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:15, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

TD 1
Seems to me that with all the damage TD 1 caused, it should have it's own article. Juliancolton 16:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

 * If sufficent info is found then you or someone can try it. Otherwise, it should stay in the seasonal article.Mitch32contribs 16:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok. I found a little more info on it, but I will look for more. I think you are right about there not being enough info for a seperate article. Juliancolton 16:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I doubt there is any more info. I tried doing an article, but there was not enough info. --Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

If there is enough info could I creat this article? Juliancolton (talk) 23:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

 * You don't need our permission. If you have the info, go ahead and create it. ---CWY2190TC 23:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I personally doubt there's enough info, though, to justify separating it from the seasonal article. --Hurricanehink ( talk ) 23:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Fine. Just wondering, how big does an article usually have to be to justify an articles being there? Juliancolton (talk) 00:02, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Probably about 10 kb.--Hurricanehink ( talk ) 00:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Ok, thanks. Just one more thing, some of the articles such as Tropical Storm Lee (2005) or other storm articles that did no damage have become GA's. Especially the ones in the 2005 hurricane season. How do i get my fish storm articles to GA? Juliancolton (talk) 00:23, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Well, they have to be very well-written. --Hurricanehink ( talk ) 00:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I know that, but should a fish storm article be mostly storm history? Juliancolton (talk) 00:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * There should be some propose outside of the storm history. --Hurricanehink ( talk ) 19:02, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Ok. And I agree that an article about TD 1 would be impossible, as there is just nothing about this storm. Juliancolton (talk) 20:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Which user left?
Juliancolton (talk) 21:17, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. Juliancolton (talk) 16:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Good article review

 * GA review (see here for criteria)

 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): See above  b (MoS):  See above notes.
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
 * 1) It is stable.
 * 2) It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
 * a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
 * 1) Overall:
 * a Pass/Fail:
 * a Pass/Fail:

Congratulations. It passes all criteria. Sorry you left Good Kitty, You did such a good job with the article).Mitch32contribs 23:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Copyeditor's thoughts
A big white space appears in the article between Tropical Depression Fifteen and Tropical Storm Isaac. I'd suggest moving things around a bit to reduce this space. I didn't move them because I wasn't sure what the  was for or whether meddling might undo the stacking of the infoboxes. I'm sure a solution to this white-space problem exists.

I had a couple of other questions I couldn't resolve on my own. In the Tropical Depression One section, this phrase appears: "... killing a total of 37 people, including three others from electrocution." The word "others" made me wonder whether the total was 40. Or should the word "others" be deleted? My other question involves Tropical Depression Five. If TD Five "degenerated into a tropical wave" on August 26, what does it mean to say, "... the remnants had already redeveloped on August 30, about 180 miles (290 km) southwest of North Carolina"? What did they redevelop into?

Except for these three things, I don't see anything else. That doesn't mean nobody else will find anything, but I believe this article to be in good shape. Best of luck with the FAC. Finetooth (talk) 04:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Another polishing
User:Tony1 was right about the semicolons in or near the lead and about the proliferation of questionable commas throughout. I may have added a fair percentage of those commas myself when I set off little sentence-opening phrases like "On August 5" with commas. They don't seem necessary and probably slow readers down for no good reason. I removed them. I also altered a fair number of other sentences to reduce the number of phrases tacked onto the ends of sentences with commas. Finetooth (talk) 22:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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String cosmology

String cosmology is a relatively new field that tries to apply equations of string theory to solve the questions of early cosmology. A related area of study is brane cosmology.

Overview
This approach can be dated back to a paper by Gabriele Veneziano that shows how an inflationary cosmological model can be obtained from string theory, thus opening the door to a description of pre-Big Bang scenarios.

The idea is related to a property of the bosonic string in a curve background, better known as nonlinear sigma model. First calculations from this model showed as the beta function, representing the running of the metric of the model as a function of an energy scale, is proportional to the Ricci tensor giving rise to a Ricci flow. As this model has conformal invariance and this must be kept to have a sensible quantum field theory, the beta function must be zero producing immediately the Einstein field equations. While Einstein equations seem to appear somewhat out of place, nevertheless this result is surely striking showing as a background two-dimensional model could produce higher-dimensional physics. An interesting point here is that such a string theory can be formulated without a requirement of criticality at 26 dimensions for consistency as happens on a flat background. This is a serious hint that the underlying physics of Einstein equations could be described by an effective two-dimensional conformal field theory. Indeed, the fact that we have evidence for an inflationary universe is an important support to string cosmology.

In the evolution of the universe, after the inflationary phase, the expansion observed today sets in that is well described by Friedmann equations. A smooth transition is expected between these two different phases. String cosmology appears to have difficulties in explaining this transition. This is known in the literature as the graceful exit problem.

An inflationary cosmology implies the presence of a scalar field that drives inflation. In string cosmology, this arises from the so-called dilaton field. This is a scalar term entering into the description of the bosonic string that produces a scalar field term into the effective theory at low energies. The corresponding equations resemble those of a Brans–Dicke theory.

Analysis has been worked out from a critical number of dimension (26) down to four. In general, one gets Friedmann equations in an arbitrary number of dimensions. The other way round is to assume that a certain number of dimensions is compactified producing an effective four-dimensional theory to work with. Such a theory is a typical Kaluza–Klein theory with a set of scalar fields arising from compactified dimensions. Such fields are called moduli.

Technical details
This section presents some of the relevant equations entering into string cosmology. The starting point is the Polyakov action, which can be written as

 * $$S_2=\frac{1}{4\pi\alpha'}\int d^2z\sqrt{\gamma}\left[\gamma^{ab}G_{\mu\nu}(X)\partial_aX^\mu\partial_bX^\nu+\alpha'\ ^{(2)}R\Phi(X)\right],$$

where $$\ ^{(2)}R$$ is the Ricci scalar in two dimensions, $$\Phi$$ the dilaton field, and $$\alpha'$$ the string constant. The indices $$a,b$$ range over 1,2, and $$\mu,\nu$$ over $$1,\ldots,D$$, where D the dimension of the target space. A further antisymmetric field could be added. This is generally considered when one wants this action generating a potential for inflation. Otherwise, a generic potential is inserted by hand, as well as a cosmological constant.

The above string action has a conformal invariance. This is a property of a two dimensional Riemannian manifold. At the quantum level, this property is lost due to anomalies and the theory itself is not consistent, having no unitarity. So it is necessary to require that conformal invariance is kept at any order of perturbation theory. Perturbation theory is the only known approach to manage the quantum field theory. Indeed, the beta functions at two loops are

 * $$\beta^G_{\mu\nu}=R_{\mu\nu}+2\alpha'\nabla_\mu\Phi\nabla_\nu\Phi+O(\alpha'^2),$$

and
 * $$\beta^{\Phi}=\frac{D-26}{6}-\frac{\alpha'}{2}\nabla^2\Phi+\alpha'\nabla_\kappa\Phi\nabla^\kappa\Phi+O(\alpha'^2).$$

The assumption that conformal invariance holds implies that

 * $$\beta^G_{\mu\nu}=\beta^\Phi=0,$$

producing the corresponding equations of motion of low-energy physics. These conditions can only be satisfied perturbatively, but this has to hold at any order of perturbation theory. The first term in $$\beta^\Phi$$ is just the anomaly of the bosonic string theory in a flat spacetime. But here there are further terms that can grant compensation of the anomaly also when $$D\ne 26$$, and from this cosmological models of a pre-big bang, scenario can be constructed. Indeed, this low energy equations can be obtained from the following action:

 * $$S=\frac{1}{2\kappa_0^2}\int d^Dx\sqrt{-G}e^{-2\Phi}\left[-\frac{2(D-26)}{3\alpha'}+R+4\partial_\mu\Phi\partial^\mu\Phi+O(\alpha')\right],$$

where $$\kappa_0^2$$ is a constant that can always be changed by redefining the dilaton field. One can also rewrite this action in a more familiar form by redefining the fields (Einstein frame) as

 * $$\, g_{\mu\nu}=e^{2\omega}G_{\mu\nu}\!,$$

 * $$\omega=\frac{2(\Phi_0-\Phi)}{D-2},$$

and using $$\tilde\Phi=\Phi-\Phi_0$$ one can write

 * $$S=\frac{1}{2\kappa^2}\int d^Dx\sqrt{-g}\left[-\frac{2(D-26)}{3\alpha'}e^{\frac{4\tilde\Phi}{D-2}}+\tilde R-\frac{4}{D-2}\partial_\mu\tilde\Phi\partial^\mu\tilde\Phi+O(\alpha')\right],$$

where

 * $$\tilde R=e^{-2\omega}[R-(D-1)\nabla^2\omega-(D-2)(D-1)\partial_\mu\omega\partial^\mu\omega].$$

This is the formula for the Einstein action describing a scalar field interacting with a gravitational field in D dimensions. Indeed, the following identity holds:

 * $$\kappa=\kappa_0e^{2\Phi_0}=(8\pi G_D)^{\frac{1}{2}}=\frac{\sqrt{8\pi}}{M_p},$$

where $$G_D$$ is the Newton constant in D dimensions and $$M_p$$ the corresponding Planck mass. When setting $$D=4$$ in this action, the conditions for inflation are not fulfilled unless a potential or antisymmetric term is added to the string action, in which case power-law inflation is possible.

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