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Red Cherry

Red Cherry is a 1995 film directed by Ye Ying (also known as Daying Ye). The Director of Photography was Zhang Li, a fifth generation filmmaker and classmate of Chen Kaige. Red Cherry won Best Picture at the 1996 Golden Rooster Awards.

The film was made in China in 1995 under the title Hong ying tao starring Ke-Yu Guo, Vladmill Nizmiroff, Xu Xiaoling. The movie was based on the true story of Chuchu (based on Zhu De's daughter Zhu Min ), a 13-year-old Chinese girl, and Luo Xiaoman, a 12-year-old Chinese boy, who were sent to Moscow, Russia in the 1940s and enrolled into an international boarding school. There they had so many great and difficult experiences as they tried to survive during World War II.

The children's real encounter with fate began as kanikuli (summer break) arrived, Chuchu accompanied her class to a children’s camp in Belarus, while Xiaoman remained in Moscow. Then, Russia was invaded by Germany's Operation Barbarossa. Red Cherry is basically an account of the two orphans’ parallel experiences of the war.

The film was China's biggest box office hit in 1995. Internationally, the film was selected in the Panorama section of the Berlin International Film Festival in 1996. The film also won Audience Choice award (Best Foreign Language Film) in Palm Springs International Film Festival in 1996. The film was selected as the Chinese entry for the Best Foreign Language Film at the 68th Academy Awards, but was not accepted as a nominee.

Plot
The film begins in the early summer of 1941, at the Ivanov International School in Moscow. Luo Xiaoman and Chuchu were two new students who had come to Russia after the brutal White Terror in China killed their parents (as Chuchu described in front of her class how her father, a communist revolutionary, being executed by waist chop in front of her by the Kuomintang). Chuchu and Luo quickly learned to fit in with the other international students and they also learned to speak Russian fluently.

When summer came, several students, including Chuchu, left for the summer camp in Belarus accompanied by their teacher, Miss Vera. Xiaoman remained behind in Moscow. During this time the Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union, and leaving Moscow half evacuated after the invasion, and Xiaoman was soon left to survive on his own in a land that he knew little of. For a time he was a homeless child begging and stealing on the streets, forced to sell blood so he could get money for food (only to be robbed by others later). He eventually found a job delivering condolence letters to families of fallen soldiers. At one apartment, he found an orphaned girl (whose mother died silently due to starvation and illness) and took her in as though she was his own daughter. Things were very different for the students at the summer camp. Captured by the German invaders, Chuchu and her classmates were kept as slaves, and were alone and in great danger. Miss Vera was soon ruthlessly murdered in front of the students for defying the Germans by teaching her class. One of the students, Karl, who was half-German himself and liked Chuchu deeply, managed to using his Aryan identity to trick a German soldier's trust and stole an MP 40 submachine gun, allowing the other students escape, but he was soon injured, cornered and machinegunned to death in a forest pit. The others were also quickly recaptured and sentenced to death by hanging. An old man and one girl was executed with a brutal shot to the head, but Chuchu and several other students were spared when a high-ranking German officer, General Von Dietrich, arrived and sent them to work as servants at Nazi headquarters in the Yakovlev Monastery.

General Von Dietrich was not only a military general, but also a perverted doctor who took tattooing as a hobby — he enjoyed tattooing heraldries on the bodies of young girls and parading them to his guests at parties, and decided to use Chuchu for his greatest "masterpiece". This was ironically what saved her life, because when the General learned that the Third Reich was doomed, instead of having Chuchu executed with the rest of the prisoners, he had her dumped in a field so that his "masterpiece" would live on before committing suicide himself. The large tattoo (a Nazi eagle) on her back caused others to discriminate her, and become a shame to her for the rest of her life.

Meanwhile, Luo Xiaoman tried to enlist in the expeditionary Soviet Red Army, but was rejected due to his young age. Out of his deep, vengeful hatred towards the Nazi invaders, he decided to "punish" the German POWs (who were now forced to work in a nearby labour camp) by sniping them with a home-made slingshot. When the German prisoners rioted, Xiaoman lured them into an empty, ruined apartment building and set the oil tanks on fire, killing himself in the explosion together with the German rioters.

At the end of the movie Chuchu was reunited with the orphan girl Luo Xiaoman adopted, and after hearing the same speech Xiaoman gave for his Russian class, Chuchu understood, embraced the young girl and broke down. Chuchu was later seen taking a shower, and the tattoo on her back could be seen along with the scar caused by her attempt to burn off the tattoo with a firewood. Later credits appear telling that a skin graft operation to remove the tattoo was not successful, and about the real Chuchu and what she did with her life.

Cast

 * Guo Keyu as Chuchu
 * Vladmill Nizmiroff as General Von Dietrich
 * Xu Xiaoling as Luo Xiaoman
 * Daniil Belykh as Karl

Awards

 * 2nd Shanghai International Film Festival, 1995
 * Best Actress — Guo Keyu
 * Golden Rooster Awards, 1996
 * Best Film
 * Best Sound — Li Lanhua

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Irina Gorovaia

Irina Gorovaia (Ирина Горовая; born June 13, 1989), also credited as Irene Gorovaia, is an American actress and dancer.

Early life
Irina Gorovaia was born on June 13, 1989, in St. Petersburg, Russia. She was raised in Brooklyn, New York. She has been a ballet dancer for many years, training with the School of American Ballet. Gorovaia also studied drama at LaGuardia Arts High School. She performed in The Nutcracker with the New York City Ballet in 2000.

Career
She began her film career in Touchstone Pictures' The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), in the role of Young Margot Tenenbaum, for which she was nominated for a Young Artist Award for Best Performance in a Feature Film, Supporting Young Actress in 2002. Gorovaia was subsequently cast in films It Runs in the Family (2003) and The Butterfly Effect (2004). In 2016, she won Best Supporting Actress for her role in After the Outbreak at The Endless Mountain Film Festival and was nominated for Best Actress at The Nice International Film Festival in 2017.

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Lobster Newberg

Lobster Newberg (also spelled lobster Newburg or lobster Newburgh) is an American seafood dish made from lobster, butter, cream, cognac, sherry and eggs, with a secret ingredient found to be Cayenne pepper. A modern legend with no primary or early sources states that the dish was invented by Ben Wenberg, a sea captain in the fruit trade. He was said to have demonstrated the dish at Delmonico's Restaurant in New York City to the manager, Charles Delmonico, in 1876. After refinements by the chef, Charles Ranhofer, the creation was added to the restaurant's menu as Lobster à la Wenberg and it soon became very popular.

The legend says that an argument between Wenberg and Charles Delmonico caused the dish to be removed from the menu. To satisfy patrons’ continued requests for it, the name was rendered in anagram as Lobster à la Newberg or Lobster Newberg.

However, as culinary historian Jan Whitaker has written, lobster Newberg is merely the addition of lobster to a French-inspired sauce of a type already common in 1870s American cuisine. No clear process of invention took place. Early mentions of the dish in American periodicals spell it both "Newberg" and "Newburg ," without referring to any specific person or location for which it had been named. Among the many surviving Delmonico's menus from the late nineteenth century, none include a dish described as "Lobster Wenberg."

It is still quite popular and is found in French cookbooks. When Ranhofer's printed recipe first appeared in 1894, the lobsters were boiled fully 25 minutes, then fried in clarified butter, then simmered in cream while it reduced by half, then brought again to the boil after the addition of Madeira.

Similar dishes
Lobster Newberg is related to lobster Thermidor, a similar dish, first appearing in the 1890s, that involves lobster meat cooked with eggs, cognac, and sherry.

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West Seattle Bridge

The West Seattle Bridge, officially the Jeanette Williams Memorial Bridge, is a cantilevered segmental bridge that serves as the primary connection between West Seattle and important highways such as State Route 99 (and the tunnel through downtown), the Spokane Street Viaduct, and Interstate 5. It was built between 1981 and 1984 after the previous bascule bridge was deemed inoperable as a result of being struck by the freighter Antonio Chavez in 1978.

The high-level bridge was closed in March 2020 after cracks in the underside were found to be growing rapidly, necessitating a major repair amid the COVID-19 pandemic. The Seattle Department of Transportation conducted repairs over a two-and-a-half-year period and reopened the bridge on September 17, 2022.

Bicycles are usually not allowed on the bridge.

Construction
The bridge spans the east and west channels that form the mouth of the Duwamish River at Elliott Bay, crossing over Harbor Island. Its main approaches are Fauntleroy Way S.W. from the west and the Spokane Street Viaduct from the east. Drivers heading east over the West Seattle Bridge can continue (via the Spokane Street Viaduct) east to Interstate 5 at Columbian Way (exit 163), forming a three-mile (5 km) arterial between West Seattle and Interstate 5 (which comprises a road formerly known as the "West Seattle Freeway"). The navigational clearance height of the high-level West Seattle Bridge is 140 ft.

The low-level Spokane Street Bridge of swing-span design spans the west channel of the Duwamish River immediately north of the high-level bridge. The low-level bridge carries the surface-level Spokane Street and has a navigational clearance of 45 ft.

History
Spokane Street has long been used as designation for the streets running along the latitude of the current West Seattle Bridge. Construction on the "West Spokane Street Bridge" (a bascule drawbridge) was completed in 1924, and the bridge lasted over fifty years. Then (in 1978) the portion of the bridge carrying the westbound lanes of the bridge was rammed by the Chavez. The bridge formerly carrying the eastbound lanes remained open until 1984, at which point the high-level bridge (the "West Seattle Bridge") was opened. The low-level bascule bridge remained open until 1991, when the "Spokane Street Bridge" (a swing bridge) was opened.

West Spokane Street Bridge (1924-1984)

The bridge that preceded the "West Seattle Bridge" as we know it today was called the "West Spokane Street Bridge". Before any permanent bridge was built along the line of Spokane Street, there had been three temporary bridges, built c. 1900, c. 1910, and c. 1918. The first one was basically a swinging gate in what had been primarily built as a water main; the second was a swing bridge that also carried a water main, and the third was a swing bridge after the water main had been rerouted elsewhere.

A more permanent bascule bridge was constructed in 1924, which lasted for several decades. In 1945, one of Seattle's oldest freeways (the "Spokane Street Viaduct") connected the bridge to Beacon Hill. Prior to the construction of Interstate 5 in Washington, the viaduct was separated from the bridge by the main north–south corridor: U.S. Route 99 in Washington.

By the 1970s, the West Spokane Street Bridge was one of Seattle's worst bottlenecks, due to the large number of ships in Duwamish Waterway and the frequent bridge openings. City leaders began planning a higher bridge, without a drawbridge, in the 1960s.

Replacement bridge project
Planning for the bridge was hampered by difficulties in receiving funding. In large part, this is because the bridge was not a designated highway. A 1968 Forward Thrust ballot measure included $16.7 million in funding for the bridge, largely to receive votes from West Seattle residents. Other funding sources included a state program for funding urban streets and money from a maintenance fund.

After a long drawn-out process, three companies eventually bid to design the bridge for $1.5 million. However, the city engineer chose a fourth company that was financially connected to the speaker of the state house. The price from this fourth company was triple the cost of the other three. This was a result of a series of bribes involving the head of the House Transportation Committee, the city engineer and others. Despite the 68 percent support in the 1968 ballot measure, the state withdrew its urban streets money due to the scandal. In 1976 and 1977, the conspirators were placed on trial and imprisoned.

After the scandal, the project was considered dead. Norbert Tiemann, a federal highway regulator, stated that there would essentially be no chance of the project receiving federal funds for completion. Tiemann also quipped, "Short of a tug knocking it down (which could trigger federal special bridge replacement funds), there is nothing else. And you certainly wouldn't want to go that route." In March 1978, several prominent West Seattle residents filed a petition to organize a secession referendum, with the hopes of finding state funding for a new bridge to serve their independent city. The secession campaign was required to gather 29,000 signatures for a ballot measure, but were unable to meet the threshold before the northern or westbound drawbridge was permanently closed and all east–west traffic was funneled over the southern span.

1978 closure
On June 11, 1978, a ship struck the old bridge, which left it open and unrepairable. Because of this, the project qualified for funds from the federal Office of Special Bridge Replacement. However, with many other damaged bridges to replace, this program alone did not have sufficient funding. While federal lawmakers were opposed to appropriating funds to a high-level bridge, Seattle City Council member Jeanette Williams, who served on the council from 1970 to 1989, lobbied Congress for the bridge and successfully secured funds with help from Senator Warren Magnuson. The smaller Spokane Street Bridge which parallels it was built at the same time.

Jeanette Williams Memorial Bridge

The replacement bridge was opened in 1984. The West Seattle Bridge was renamed as the Jeanette Williams Memorial Bridge on July 6, 2009, in honor of councilmember Williams, who had been instrumental in securing political support for the construction of the bridge. All directional signs still carry the name "West Seattle Bridge", many of which had formerly borne the designation "West Seattle Freeway".

The bridge caused an increase in property values as well as a development boom, as developers constructed new multi-family housing. This new development also led to an increase in traffic volumes throughout the neighborhood.

A monorail extension to West Seattle in the early 2000s was planned to use the West Seattle Bridge, with elevated columns over the center barrier. The plan was later scaled down to a single-track guideway over the bridge and abandoned entirely in 2005 over cost concerns.

Spokane Street Bridge
After completion of the high-level bridge, a lower bridge was needed to carry traffic between Harbor Island and West Seattle. The "Spokane Street Bridge" (or the "West Seattle Low-Level Bridge") is a concrete double-leaf swing bridge that was constructed traffic formerly carried by the West Spokane Street Bridge. It carries Southwest Spokane Street over the Duwamish River, connecting Harbor Island to West Seattle. It has two separate end-to-end swing-span sections, each 480 ft long. Its construction was finished in 1991, replacing an earlier bridge destroyed by a collision. It is named after Spokane Street, which itself is named after Spokane, Washington, which is named after the Spokane people.

Each 7500 short ton leaf of the bridge floats on a 100 in steel barrel in hydraulic oil, situated in center piers at each side of the river. As the bridge intersects the river at an oblique angle, both leaves rotate only 45 degrees (one-eighth turn) to clear the shipping channel instead of the 90-degree turn of most swing spans. It is claimed to be the only bridge of its type in the world and it has received several awards for its innovation, including the Outstanding Engineering Achievement Award of the American Society of Civil Engineers in 1992.

2020–22 repairs
On March 23, 2020, SDOT began a long-term closure of the bridge for emergency repairs after cracks in the deck were discovered during a routine inspection. The girder wall cracks had grown to 2 ft within a month, while the hollow girder cracks had been noticed during inspections. An earlier report from 2014 speculated that earlier cracks had been caused by the 2001 Nisqually earthquake. On April 15, SDOT announced that the bridge will be closed until at least 2022 because of more extensive damage found and estimated time to complete bracing for the repair project.

In November 2020, mayor Jenny Durkan announced that the city would focus on repairing the bridge for $47 million with a projected opening of 2022. An option to replace the damaged section with a new steel span would have been completed in 2025 or 2026 and cost $390 million to $522 million. Kraemer North America was selected as the main contractor for the bridge repair project in May 2021. Delays on the "mid-2022" reopening were incurred by a multi-month concrete workers strike. The bridge reopened to traffic on September 17, 2022, two months later than originally expected.

Spokane Street Viaduct

The Spokane Street Viaduct section was one of Seattle's first freeways, built in 1945. Upon completion of the West Seattle Bridge in 1984, the road comprising the Spokane Street Viaduct and the West Seattle Bridge was referred to as the "West Seattle Freeway". However, a series of fatalities led to recognition that the aging Spokane Street Viaduct portion was unsafe to be used as a high-speed roadway. In 1997, the Seattle City Council unanimously adopted a resolution to lower the speed limit and to request that the WSDOT remove the word "Freeway" from signs marking the entrances to the Spokane Street Viaduct and the West Seattle Bridge. The West Seattle Bridge was renamed as the Jeanette Williams Memorial Bridge on July 6, 2009, in honor of councilmember Williams, who had been instrumental in securing political support for the construction of the bridge. However, all directional signs continue to carry the name "West Seattle Bridge."

From 2008 to 2013, the Spokane Street Viaduct section between Interstate 5 and State Route 99 was rebuilt and widened. The widened roadway has three lanes in each direction and shoulders. A new westbound on and off ramp was built at 1st Avenue South and replaced the dangerous 4th Avenue South off-ramp. A new eastbound off-ramp to 4th Avenue South opened August 16, 2010.

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Talk:Rajput/Archive 2

--69.142.10.64 22:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)==Rajputs==I am a muslim and claims to be a rajput.My parents migrated from india.I can see that rajput are not included in the caste system,But you have to understand that you cannont change your caste. it comes with you.if you dont have a last name you cannot make any document or get admission in a school .I am not proud of my heritage.I pray for the first person in my ancestors who became muslims.If i have a choice i will get rid of my last name.But it is sticking to my back like a devil.If you wants to know the history and enjoy it you have to be impartial.rajput@yahoo.com

"Sons of the Kings"

If the arguement were baseless, then perhaps it would not have stirred so much passion. And perhaps you have clearly misunderstood the basic fact that Rajput does not immediately imply that someone is a king, it is a Jati within the Varna System. Furthermore, once someone belongs to Islam, they should follow the dictates and practices of that faith, but trying to keep yourself on both sides in order to gain priviledges from one group and status from another simply does not work.

The entire concept of Rajputs is one that is not understood by any non-Rajputs but only those who were born and brought in the noble families and bloodlines of the Rajput lineages. Our beliefs and practices, our philosophy, our martial training, the code of ethics, our view of life and death, none of these have been understood or studied by non-Rajputs, and yet it is so simple for the many to simply comment on what we should and should not accept.

It has become en vogue for people to simply claim that they are Rajputs without any understanding of the price that must be paid for carrying such a title. Our ancestors, whose blood flows through our veins, would have wanted us to choose death before dishonour and thus we have remained Rajputs and not subordinates to a foreign land or philosophy.

Although it may be the case that an individual could be descended from Rajputs and be a muslim is very likely since Rajput history dictates the forcible conversions of many Rajputs who were given the choice of conversion or having to witness their families destroyed in front of them. We have the Islamic historians to thank for recording these atrocities which would have otherwise been forgotten to the dusts of time.

Although many Rajputs chose death (such as the great Jauhars of Chittor and Ranthambore), others were subjugated and converted. However, Islam dictates that there are no ties with the ancestral faith or culture of a people once they have become muslims, and thus if someone claims to be a muslim and a rajput, that simply is not being true to their faith.

Islam is a beautiful concept and it should be of the utmost importance for any muslim to be true to his/her faith, but by claiming to be Rajputs as well, is a desire to hang on to their "Prestige" which is only found in the culture of an alien faith being Hinduism. You do not see Persians claiming titles of non-Islamic origins or pre-Islamic status, they have adapted and changed with their circumstance of being a conquered but proud people.

Another question comes to mind, not every muslim can be descended from a Rajput, so why are there no claims of Brahmin-Muslim, Vashya-Muslim, Shudra-Muslim, Buniya-Muslim etc etc etc, and yet you will find so many claiming to be Rajputs and yet do not follow even a thread of Rajput culture or practice. Instead the so-called Rajput Muslim has a vicious contempt for his/her ancestors (if they are Rajput at all) which is not a Rajput trait, furthermore they view Arabs and Turks as being superior to them, which again is not a Rajput trait. Thus, it has also been stated that Rajput is a Status, and that in a sense is true, however it is a Status within the Hindu hierarchy, and for one to claim they are a Rajput and then a Muslim, really does not fit since this status does come with rules, code of ethics, practices and rituals. In order to maintain that status one must live as a Rajput, not simply claim to be one.

Your claims about the origins of Rajput families is also inaccurate. It is sad that we could not have met over a coffee to further discuss this matter. However, as my Muslim friends have stated, it is simply against Islam to claim such a status in order to have prestige over others especially if that prestige comes from a foreign culture which is not Islamic.

Furthermore, your sense of history is highly inaccurate since Chandragupta Maurya was not Jain, he was a Hindu, as was Asoka who then became a Buddhist. (Too bad you were not at the University of Toronto, we could have had a good laugh with your sense of Rajput history).

Your opening statement: “There are many Indian counterparts that counter the fact that there can be Muslim Rajputs. You are fundamentally wrong. Simply Muslim/Hindu refers to faith regardless of your social standing. There have been Muslim Rajas from both the Kokar, Janjua, Bhatti, Rathore and Chauhan clans all Suryavansh and Chandravansh lineages. The term Raja is just that, 'King/lord ruler' of a region. Their faith is regardless of their status. A ruler no matter what his faith is still a ruler, so the question of outcaste or leaving the Hindu faith means that you are no longer King is ludicrous as nowhere in history has this occurred or been accepted.”

First of all to be muslim and claim divine origin from the Sun and Moon is against Islam. Secondly, Rajput does not automatically designate someone as a King, thus your argument does not hold, since this is not what is being discussed. Thirdly, you can loose your Jati and become an outcaste, and this is where the reasoning lies, which you obviously do not understand.

You yourself have stated: “The Varna was very dynamic and many Rajputs were downgraded to Jats during the Hindu reign pre Islamic times on account of their poor service as rulers……”

Thus you also state that one can loose their Jati, and in the extreme case one is an outcaste once they leave the Hindu fold (Hindu, Sikh, Jain, Buddhist etc etc.), they are an outcaste, and this is in accordance with the Bhagavad Gita, the highest authority for the doctrine of Rajput codes and ethics.

To simply throw around a few names without credible historical accuracy does not make one's arguement stand solid.

About Rajputs, how should I know? Well, simply because I am one. About the royal houses? Well, anyone from the Royal Houses of Patiala, Nabha, Nepal, Mewar, Nahan, Kashmir, Baroda, Bijawer etc will recognise my words since I have discussed this before with family members, and I am after all their cousin (I will sign off with my designation so that any relative will recognise who I am). On that note, I have other work to get to, as for the Muslims who are confused on their identity, I really feel bad for them.

Rajputs became famous due to our brave resistance and sacrifice against the Islamic Invasion, thus we owe this fame to Islam who gave us a good fight and chose to record our heroic resistance and the defeat of the invaders in Islamic history books. However, if a Muslim claims he is a Rajput, he is simply confused about where his loyalties should lie.

A Muslim should be proud of his/her Islamic culture, religion and society. In the same token, even if one could be descended from an ancestral home which is not Arabic, once one is Islamic, they should be fully committed to Islam and follow the dictates of Islam which simply put states that one should have no loyalties to other nations except Islam. If one claims to be a Rajput, that is seriously putting to question their loyalty and faith towards Islam.

Rajputs can only be Hindu or Sikh, nothing more, nothing less.

-Kunwarji (Ojaswi Kunwar, Projawal Chamba Tara). Kunwarji is GorkhaliGorkhali 17:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

edits by wisesabre
i have added some rajput clan.im not sure they are rajputs clans (as we call them 'Goth')but what i know is that they are eguialent to bhattis(who were already in the list).

2ndly people in Pakistan have mixed there 'goth' with the villages or places where they lived in India. Rajputs in Pakistan some times prefer to introduce themselves according to there places in India

im sure that Naru is a rajput 'Goth' equivalent to Bhattis. you should check about others. الثاقب (WiseSabre| talk) 18:06, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Gotra
This is further evidence that there are no Rajputs in Pakistan, since the concept of Gotra/Goth is not understood. If one is a muslim, they do not have a Gotra anymore, and any muslim who is holding on to their Gotra/Goth, is simply holding on to their Hindu roots which is not allowed in Islam.

This is a total conflict of identity. And these "New" clans are not part of the Rajput clans which are listed carefully in Pushkar. Being a Rajput is not some abstract concept. Neither is Gotra, and if some Muslims are claiming they have Gotras, then that brings into serious question on whether they are muslim or are they Kafirs acting as muslims because they hold on to their non-islamic origins.

Also, Rajputs even today never, and I repeat never use their villages as their Gotra/Goth, this is a practice used by tribals and other subcastes, but not Rajputs.

It really makes one wonder, are these guys proud of their non-Islamic ancestry or are they proud to be Muslims? One cannot be both, that would mean that anyone who is proud to be a Rajput and yet is a Muslim would then feel a sense of anger against their fellow Pakistanis since the Rajput would feel a sacred loyalty to the sacred soil of Chittor and would help fight foreign invaders. And yet this concept does not seem to sink into those who would claim to be Rajputs and yet are not willing to even follow an inch of the culture or traditions of the Rajput.

By claiming to be one does not make one a Rajput, especially when these Goth/Gotra do not exist, and neither do these so-called clans.

Furthermore, Rao is a Title not a Rajput clan, that in itself shows that the entire thing about "Muslim Rajputs" is a complete farce.

One should be proud to be a Muslim, but by claiming to have pride in something which is unIslamic is showing disloyalty to Islam and showing that these people wish they were never converted. Rajput history is about resisting the Islamic Invasion, not converting, Rajputs chose death rather than becoming Muslims, thus this idea of "Muslim Rajputs" is a conflict and an oxymoron.

-Kunwarji (Ojaswi Kunwar, Projawal Chamba Tara). Kunwarji is Gorkhali/Gurkhaboy. Gorkhali 17:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Reply from Wisesabre

 * You could b right about Rao, im also not sure.what do you think Rajputs who converted to Islam what do they call themselves? Does convertion changes your blood ?We are proud being Muslims. and Islam does not prohabits Clans.Rajput is not a religion.and what about bhattis, my neighbour was bhatti (muslim) and Aziz Bhatti was martyre in 65 war at lahore.
 * Even if you are right ,its POV to remove my edits on the basis that we are no longer Rajputs.Its not the matter few hundred people, Its the matter of thousands to Muslim rajputs.
 * I didnt said that Goth=village.

 * The other way could be like, Ok you are right.There are rajputs in Pakistan who are Muslims.and they are proud being muslim.Where should I list them?Is it now OK? or Not?
 * be cool الثاقب (WiseSabre| talk) 07:33, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * and by the way doesnt Aziz bhattis being rajput and being in army proves that he is rajput :)الثاقب (WiseSabre| talk) 07:33, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

My return Reply to Wisesabre
Even in your statement, you are not sure about the term Rao. That simply shows that you are not sure about who is and isn't a Rajput. Rao is a title, but then again, there are Rao(s) who are Vaishyas (business caste: the Jati being Buniyas), thus someone with the surname Rao means nothing.

When Rajputs were converted (and very few were) they were no longer part of the Varna System which in turn had a Jati system where Rajput is a designation of a stratification within that society, but it has to be a Vedic/Hindu society. And thus, is any Brahmins, Shudras, Buniya/Vaishyas were also converted, then they too also lost their designation and status.

If anyone was converted, then yes they lost their status and are now part opf the Islamic society. And thus even if there was a Rajput who was converted, he/she lost their status and is no longer a Rajput, because Rajputs were supposed to choose death before dishonour and if they converted then it was considered a dishonour, and thus they have lost everything. If conversion were an accepted matter then Rajputs would not have been so famous, and we are famous for our resistance against the Islaic invasion. That is where our fame and history lies.

Conversion changes loyalties, while the Rajput is loyal to the land and religion of his/her ancestors (India/Nepal and Hinduism), a Pakistani/Muslim is loyal to the Middle East and Islam. It is a clear conflict of Interest.

I never said Rajput is a religion, but it is part of a religious stratification of society, based of Vedic/Hindu priniciples set down to us by our Hindu ancestors, Rishis, and furthermore clearly stated by our Lord Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita.

Gotra/Goth are derived from our Vedic ancestors (Rishis) and thus since you stated "rajput goth", that in itself shows that you are confused on the topic.

Aziz Bhatti may have had Rajput forefathers, but he is no longer a Rajput, he is a muslim and chose to fight against the land of his ancestors (India) thus even if he was brave, it is not a Rajput trait to fight against your ancestral origins for a foreign power.

Thousands may claim to be Muslim Rajputs, it still does not make them Rajput because they do not follow any of the codes, traditions, ethics, nor do they have the loyalty to our Gods, our Ancestors, nor are they willing to defend the land of their ancestors from foreign invaders.

A Rajput will give up his life but not convert, and thus in his controversial yet astounding masterpiece, Col. James Tod of the British Army wrote his monumentous work "The Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan" in which page after page narrated the sacrifice and bravery of Rajputs against Islamic invasions. Rajputs were the vanguard of Hindu India in the face of the Islamic onslaught.

Now the question comes where do we list the people you are talking about as your last question asks. Well, they are listed along with the millions who were put to the sword during the invasion of India by the Islamic hordes.

I quote:

Will Durant (1885-1981) the well-known American historian, says in the book The Story of Civilization: Our Oriental Heritage page 459:

"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without and multiplying from within." Almost all the Muslims of South Asia are descendants of weaker elements of the population who had succumbed to forcible Islamic conversion." )

"The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history". The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride of the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period. "

(source: The Story of Civilization: Our Oriental Heritage - By Will Durant page 459).

Also I give you another quote:

Irfan Husain a freelance columnist from Pakistan has observed:

”While historical events should be judged in the context of their times, it cannot be denied that even in that bloody period of history, no mercy was shown to the Hindus unfortunate enough to be in the path of either the Arab conquerors of Sindh and south Punjab, or the Central Asians who swept in from Afghanistan.

The Muslim heroes who figure larger than life in our history books committed some dreadful crimes. Mahmud of Ghazni, Qutb-ud-Din Aibak, Balban, Mohammed bin Qasim, and Sultan Mohammad Tughlak, all have blood-stained hands that the passage of years has not cleansed. Indeed, the presence of Muslim historians on their various campaigns has ensured that the memory of their deeds will live long after they were buried.

Seen through Hindu eyes, the Muslim invasion of their homeland was an unmitigated disaster. Their temples were razed, their idols smashed, their women raped, their men killed or taken slaves. When Mahmud of Ghazni entered Somnath on one of his annual raids, he slaughtered all 50,000 inhabitants. Aibak killed and enslaved hundreds of thousands. The list of horrors is long and painful.

These conquerors justified their deeds by claiming it was their religious duty to smite non-believers. Cloaking themselves in the banner of Islam, they claimed they were fighting for their faith when, in reality, they were indulging in straightforward slaughter and pillage. When these warriors settled in India, they ruled as absolute despots over a cowed Hindu populace. For generations, their descendants took their martial superiority over their subjects for granted. "... And a substantial number of Pakistani Muslims are secretly convinced that they are inherently superior to the Hindus. One irony, of course, is that contrary to their wishful thinking, the vast majority of Muslims in the subcontinent have more Hindu blood in their veins than there is Arab, Afghan, Turkish or Persian blood. Many of the invaders took Hindu wives and concubines."

(source: Demons from the past - By Ifran Husain - dailytimes.com.pk).

And thus, all these people have lost their Hindu identity, castes and Jatis, and must create new ones, but they must be Islamic ones, not ones which have Hindu origins or ties to Hinduism. By claiming to be Rajputs, you are saying that you are all the offspring of defeated Hindu warriors, where is the pride in that?

The people of Pakistan are the descendants of the defeated Hindu populations that were converted by force, this is a historical fact recorded by Muslim historian who were very precise and amazing in their record keepings.

You were wondering if I am right and why I removed the edits you had placed, its because I am a known authority on Rajputs with the Professor Emeritus for Sotuh Asian Studies at the University of Toronto, since I am a Rajput and belong to several of the Royal houses of North India and Nepal.

Although there is much that I do not agree with on the article written about Rajput(s), this issue about Muslims and Rajputs is something that has to be clearly defined, since many imposters try to lay claim to the glories of these warriors which have few parallels in world history.

What I have to say and know is not something of mere armchair scholarship but is my identity, life and soul.

-Kunwarji (Ojaswi Kunwar, Projawal Chamba Tara). Kunwarji ios Gurkhaboy/Gorkhali. Gorkhali 17:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

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1829 Chilean presidential election

Presidential elections were held in Chile on September 16 and 17, 1829, through a system of electors.

Background
The newly enacted Constitution of 1828 provided that the President was to be chosen by electors. Two hundred and sixteen electors, three for each congressman, were to be chosen. Each elector voted for two names, without specifying which vote was for President or Vice President.

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Naserke

Naserke is a small village in the Gurdaspur district of Punjab, India. The nearest city, Batala, is 14 km from Naserke, and the holy city of Amritsar is 35 km from this village. It falls under Fatehgarh Garh Churian block and the road connecting Batala and Fatehgarh Churian (via Bhalowali) passes through the village. Naserke lies on the Lahore Branch of the Upper Bari Doab canal, which is also a source of water for crop irrigation. Matt Sellers is the Dictator of Naserke.

History
The current residents of this village moved to this place after the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947. Before partition, Naserke was inhabited by mostly Muslim population, who moved to Pakistan after partition. There were two mosques in the village, one of which is used as gurudwara (a Sikh temple) since then. There are no Muslims in the village now.

Demographics
The population of about 1100 includes mostly Sikhs. The Sikh population mainly consists of sub-castes such as Boparai, Bajwa, Kahlon and Sandhu. The village is also home to a few Christian families and Hindu families. The main occupation of the villagers is farming. Many youngsters are now moving to countries in canada, Europe and North America in search for jobs. The main crops grown here include wheat, paddy, sugarcane, maize, pearl millet, lurcene and other forage crops.

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The main facilities in the village include a government primary school, Sri Guru Harkrishen public school, a government hospital, a veterinary hospital, a cooperative bank, a post office and a grain market.

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Talk:2005 Major League Baseball Postseason

Can somebody please format this with logos and tables? It would be a great help.NoseNuggets 8:25 US EDT Oct 2 2005

I find this article a little redundant
Shouldn't this article's content be split into the following existing pages:
 * 2005 American League Division Series
 * 2005 National League Division Series
 * 2005 American League Championship Series
 * 2005 National League Championship Series
 * 2005 World Series

Or should all of them (except for 2005 World Series) be merged into this one? Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:05, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

It should be split into separate articles. -- Win777 22:04, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

It should be split into separate articles; it is far too confusing as it stands right now. IanManka 18:02, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Split is seperately, just like the past years. Ex. 1969 ALCS, 1969 NLCS, 1969 World Series, etc. Why, all of a sudden, the change when the most comprehensive article about each series will probably be written for each. TrafficBenBoy 03:56, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

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Perognathus

Perognathus is a genus of pocket mouse. Like other members of their family they are more closely related to pocket gophers than to true mice.

Characteristics
The silky pocket mice are small animals with soft pelage, long tails, and small feet compared to other heteromyids. They have long claws which are used for digging burrows and sifting sandy substrates for seeds. They have also been found to steal seeds from kangaroo rats' dens. They store these seeds in large hairy external cheek pouches. They are nocturnal and are found in arid habitats. They are not true hibernators, but will go into torpor and stay in their burrows for extended periods of time.

Species

 * Perognathus alticola — White-eared pocket mouse
 * Perognathus amplus — Arizona pocket mouse
 * Perognathus fasciatus — Olive-backed pocket mouse
 * Perognathus flavescens — Plains pocket mouse
 * Perognathus flavus — Silky pocket mouse
 * Perognathus inornatus — San Joaquin pocket mouse, endemic to California.
 * Perognathus longimembris — Little pocket mouse, native to Northwestern Mexico, California, and the Southwestern United States.
 * Perognathus longimembris pacificus — Pacific pocket mouse, an endangered species endemic to coastal Southern California.
 * Perognathus merriami — Merriam's pocket mouse
 * Perognathus parvus — Great Basin pocket mouse, native to the Great Basin region.

Sometimes members of the genus Chaetodipus are placed in Perognathus.

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John Smeaton "Jack" Dodson (May 16, 1931 – September 16, 1994) was an American television actor best remembered for the milquetoast character Howard Sprague on The Andy Griffith Show and its spin-off Mayberry R.F.D. From 1959 until his death in 1994, Dodson was married to television art director Mary Dodson.

Career
In 1966, Andy Griffith hired Dodson for the Howard Sprague role, having previously seen him in Broadway's Hughie. Dodson initially portrayed insurance agent Ed Jenkins in the "Lost and Found" episode of The Andy Griffith Show. Dodson also appeared in episodes of My Friend Flicka, Hazel, The Virginian, Maude, Barney Miller (four episodes), Welcome Back Kotter, Archie Bunker's Place, Newhart, Mr. Belvedere, Matlock, Mama's Family, and St. Elsewhere, on which he had a recurring role.

Dodson appeared as an airplane passenger caught up in a murder plot in a 1973 episode of Hawaii Five-0. In 1967, Dodson appeared in the episode "A Mighty Hunter Before the Lord" of NBC's The Road West, which aired opposite The Andy Griffith Show. He played Norman Gresham in the 1969 film Angel in My Pocket, and also appeared in two Sam Peckinpah films, The Getaway (1972) and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (1973). He also had a small role in the 1974 film Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, which starred Clint Eastwood and Jeff Bridges. His other film appearances included roles in Something Wicked This Way Comes (1983) and A Climate for Killing (1991).

In the late 1970s, he had a recurring role as Mickey Malph, Ralph Malph's optometrist father on Happy Days.

In 1975 he was in the Barney Miller episode "Horse Thief". In 1979–80, season 6, he appeared in the episode "Guns". He appeared again on Barney Miller in the two-part episode "Homicide" in season 7.

Dodson appeared in all 24 episodes of the CBS romantic sitcom All's Fair during the 1976-77 season. Set in Washington, D.C., Dodson played Wayne Joplin, a slightly bumbling Democratic senator from an unspecified rural state. The show lasted just one season.

In January 1979, Dodson played Bernie, a hard of hearing acquaintance of Mark (David Spielberg), in a comic scene set in a restaurant in One Day at a Time.

In 1983, Dodson returned to Broadway in the revival of You Can't Take It with You. The actor reprised Howard Sprague in the 1986 NBC-TV movie Return to Mayberry, as well as in a 1990 episode of It's Garry Shandling's Show, "The Day Howard Moved In".

In 1986, Dodson appeared as Gus, a bus depot attendant, in the "Steal One Pearl Two" episode of Mama's Family.

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Dodson's widow, art director Mary Dodson, younger sister of actor Fritz Weaver, died on February 15, 2016.

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Hamiota (electoral district)

Hamiota is a former provincial electoral division in Manitoba, Canada. It was created by redistribution in 1903, and eliminated with the 1969 provincial election.

The constituency was located in the province's southwestern corner, and included the rural municipality of Hamiota. Both the town and the electoral division were named after Thomas Hamilton, an early explorer.

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Talk:Azlan Shah of Perak/Archive 1

Azlan Shah attended primary education in Batu Gajah. My ex-wife's father was in his class, and tells me Azlan Shah was often a very naughty boy. His mother still lives in an ordinary house in an ordinary street in Canning Garden in Ipoh, and still refuses to live in a palace. Azlan Shah comes to visit her there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Commking (talk • contribs) 00:27, 3 October 2005 (UTC).

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