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Mike Pagliarulo

Michael Timothy Pagliarulo, a.k.a. "Pags" (born March 15, 1960), is an American former professional baseball third baseman and later the hitting coach of the Miami Marlins. He played in Major League Baseball for the New York Yankees, San Diego Padres, Minnesota Twins, Baltimore Orioles, and Texas Rangers, and in Nippon Professional Baseball for the Seibu Lions.

Playing career
Pagliarulo graduated from Medford High School in Massachusetts in 1978 and played college baseball at the University of Miami for the Miami Hurricanes. In 1980, he played collegiate summer baseball with the Chatham A's of the Cape Cod Baseball League. He was drafted by the New York Yankees in sixth round of the 1981 Major League Baseball draft.

Pagliarulo joined the parent club on July 1, 1984, and spent just over five years with the Yankees before going to the San Diego Padres in 1989. Although not a high average hitter, Pagliarulo was a long ball specialist as he belted 19 in 1985, 28 in 1986 and a career high of 32 in 1987 with outstanding defensive skills to go along. That promptly drew comparisons with former great Yankee third baseman Graig Nettles. But Pagliarulo never quite lived up to expectation, as he never came close to those numbers again. After hitting 15 homeruns in 1988 and 4 in 1989 in 74 games, he was traded to the San Diego Padres. After a year and a half in San Diego, Pagliarulo moved back to the American League when he joined the Minnesota Twins just before the start of the 1991 season. It was with Minnesota that Pagliarulo won his only World Series championship as the starting third baseman in 1991. Pagliarulo remained with Minnesota for the following 1992 season and part of the 1993 season. He was acquired by the Orioles on August 15, 1993, in a transaction that was completed the following day when Erik Schullstrom was sent to the Twins. At the time, the Orioles needed depth at third base with Leo Gómez on the disabled list but had been unsuccessful in its pursuit of the Cincinnati Reds' Chris Sabo.

Pagliarulo was out of Major League Baseball during the strike-shortened 1994 season, playing the season for the Japanese league's Seibu Lions, where he was a teammate of current Lions manager Tsutomu Ito.

At the age of 35, Pagliarulo resumed his career when he signed with the Texas Rangers, where he finished his career before retiring after the 1995 season.

Coaching career
Before the 1998 season, Pagliarulo turned down multiple minor league contracts and big league coaching job offers in order to stay with his family in Massachusetts and coach at Winchester High School.

From 2013–13, Pagilarulo served as the hitting coach for Triple-A Indianapolis Indians.

In 2016, the Miami Marlins hired Pagliarulo as their hitting coach. Pagilarulo was fired from that position in April 2019.

Personal life
Mike married his high school sweetheart and best friend Karen in 1983. They have two kids, Michael and Erica.

His son, Michael, was a member of the 2009 Ivy League champion Dartmouth Big Green baseball team.

His daughter, Erica, was the leading scorer for the Rollins College Women’s Lacrosse team’s most successful season in program history.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terminator 4

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The result of the debate was '''Speedy delete since it was an attack page. Zach (Sound Off) 02:43, 30 September 2005 (UTC)'''

Terminator 4
A crystal ball. A really, really, poor crystal ball. Delete --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 02:33, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Personally as a fan for me the buck stops at T2. As a Wikipedian, an article on this movie should not be too speculative, and should not be written until valid confirmation of basic story, cast and shooting/release dates is given Dessydes

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Comparison of OpenDocument software

The OpenDocument format (ODF), an abbreviation for the OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications, is an open and free (excluding maintenance and support) document file format for saving and exchanging editable office documents such as text documents (including memos, reports, and books), spreadsheets, databases, charts, and presentations. This standard was developed by the OASIS industry consortium, based upon the XML-based file format originally created by OpenOffice.org, and ODF was approved as an OASIS standard on May 1, 2005. It became an ISO standard, ISO/IEC 26300, on May 3, 2006.

The following tables list applications supporting OpenDocument 1.0 (ISO/IEC 26300:2006) and OpenDocument 1.1 (OASIS Standard).

Other applications
Besides word processors, other programs can and do support the OpenDocument text format. See the List of applications supporting OpenDocument for more.

OpenDocument Format version in exported files
Root elements in ODF files take an office:version attribute, which indicates which version of OpenDocument Format specification it complies with. The version number is in the format revision.version. If the file has a version known to an XML processor, it may validate the document. Otherwise, it is optional to validate the document, but the document must be well formed. Informations from OpenDocument specification

Following table contains list of ODF specification version attribute office:version="1.X" used in files exported from OpenDocument software.

Tested sample documents contained one simple sentence (text documents), 10 rows with numbers (sheets), 2 slides (presentation documents). Validation was tested in two different ODF validators.

OpenDocument Format validators

 * https://web.archive.org/web/20090130070736/http://tools.odftoolkit.org/odfvalidator/
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20081026030022/http://tools.services.openoffice.org/odfvalidator/
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20081222095552/http://opendocumentfellowship.com/validator
 * Open Document Format (ODF) Accessibility Evaluator - alpha stage (in development)
 * OASIS - Office wiki - How to validate an ODF document

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Roger Pavlik

Roger Allen Pavlik (born October 4, 1967) is a former Major League Baseball pitcher who played for the Texas Rangers from 1992 to 1998. Pavlik was drafted by the Texas Rangers in the second round of the 1986 draft out of Aldine High School in Houston. Pavlik's career record was 47-39 with a 4.58 ERA. His mechanics were unusual and his jerky windup and release caused undue injuries over the course of his career. He retired in early 2000 at the Colorado Rockies' training camp in Tucson, Arizona. No explanation was given for Pavlik's retirement, although he faced rehabilitation from rotator cuff surgery, which caused him to miss the 1999 season.

Pavlik was elected to the American League All-Star team in 1996, when he was a 15-game winner, despite having an ERA over 5.00.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joy to the World (Mariah Carey song)

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Discounting sockpuppets, there were 7 keep, 4 delete, and 7 merge votes. As with Articles for deletion/Santa Claus Is Comin' to Town (Mariah Carey song) and Articles for deletion/O Holy Night (Mariah Carey song), I do not believe there is enough consensus as to what action should be taken. However, I did move the article to Joy to the World (Mariah Carey single).  Rob e  rt  23:58, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Joy to the World (Mariah Carey song)
See above discussions. FuriousFreddy 02:41, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge all commercial versions of Joy to the World to a single article. -- BD2412 talk 03:11, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Mariah Carey's version of the song is a combination of the Christmas song and the 3 Dog Night song. It also a lot of detail on its remixes and music video that would be lost if the article were merged. OmegaWikipedia 03:25, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Amount of detail does not warrant keeping an unneccessary article. If information is desired to be kept, merge it to the article on the album. --FuriousFreddy 03:32, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to original album, as per WP:ALBUM. Jkelly 03:31, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, per Omegawikipedian, merging would be bloat. Kappa 06:40, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * No, keeping a whole page of artist bio for each of many non-notable Christmas-song covers that didn't even make the charts would be bloat. Delete or merge to the not-very-notable album it's on, per WP:MUSIC.  Barno 15:29, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Barno, the song did indeed in chart in Australia and the USA dance chart OmegaWikipedia 15:42, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Kappa, as much as admire your tenacity for sticking it out on some tough ones around here, I think Barno is (mostly) right on this one. Merge. --Jacquelyn Marie 22:03, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with the album it's on. Failing that, delete. Not notable enough to stand as a separate article. Jonathunder 07:14, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Jonathunder, what's the deal with your signature? I've added your name to your votes twice now. It's just listing the time you voted. Thanks -- Kjkolb 09:06, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to album. -- Kjkolb 08:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge & redirect; not notable enough for separate article. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 13:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Ultimate Star Wars Freak 15:10, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with album. >:  Roby Wayne  Talk •  Hist 23:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Everyking 03:25, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Merry Christmas (album). Extraordinary Machine 11:34, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect -- not notable enough to warrant a separate article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phronima (talk • contribs) 14:57, 1 October 2005
 * Keep. It was released as a single, had several remixes and a video. We have articles about all Mariah singles. It would mess up their chronology if this article were deleted. Alensha 15:14, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to the album. The article on the song could also mention this version, if it's relevant.  Friday (talk) 16:35, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. As part of her discography, and is still a single release by Carey. Winnermario 00:01, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete outright or merge. Pop-music-cruft. --Calton | Talk 03:48, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * KEEP : Mariah's singles are an important part of knowing the work she has accomplished throughout the years. Why delete this page? What have we got to lose? I think that having the most information as possible about a singer, like Mariah Carey in this case, should be keeped if possible.Mczelda 04:44, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * This user's fourteenth edit, of which three have been to (Mariah Carey) articles, and four to other AfDs on Carey singles. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 11:12, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * What we have to lose via untrammeled Careyology is database bloat and resulting server sluggishness and downtime. -- Hoary 14:56, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I've just now cut some terminally trivial stuff -- example: The remix is noted for being only the third resung dance remix in her career (and her second resung remix with Morales). However, due to the limited release of the single, "Fantasy is often seen as the second effort between Carey and Morales. -- and more could be cut besides, risking the discomfiture of only a small number of people, who anyway would really be better off on a fansite. What's left after more trimming should be merged with a single article on this song. -- Hoary 14:56, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep --Anittas 21:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep --Musicpvm 19:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge. Individual recordings of songs are intrinsically non-notable. Susvolans ⇔ 15:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Do not request for deletion just because you do not like an artist. DrippingInk 20:09, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Again, who here is requesting for deletion because they don't like Mariah Carey? Certainly not I; serveral of her songs are among my favorites, and she is a great singer. This nomination has nothing to do with whether or not I like the singer or not; it has to do with the neccessity for an article. Don't assume bad faith in AfD nominations. --FuriousFreddy 23:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This song is an important Mariah Carey single.
 * Previous unsigned comment is by User:WScott. It is also his sixth edit. --FuriousFreddy 23:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
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Baṭḥari language

Baṭḥari (Arabic: اللغة البطحرية "Baṭḥari language") is a nearly extinct Afro-Asiatic language of Oman, located on the southeast coast facing the Khuriya Muriya Islands (17°40′46″N 55°22′19″E). The language is very similar to Mehri and some members of the Bathari tribe speak Mehri instead of Bathari.

The first westerner to discover the existence of Bathari was Bertram Thomas in 1929.

Name
The name Bathari has been variously rendered: ''Batahari, Bautahari, Botahari, Bathara. ''

The stress always falls on the last long syllable in Bathari, unless the stress unit is only composed of short syllables. In this case, the first syllable is stressed. As with other Modern South Arabian languages, Bathari nouns have two genders (masculine and feminine) and three numbers (singular, dual and plural), but the dual is reportedly obsolete. The ending -(v)t marks feminine nouns, apart from loanwords from Arabic that end in -h'.' Also, it is not Shahri but Bathari which retains (or perhaps has retaken, from Arabic) the Arabic-like 'ain.

Some Bathari words were mentioned in Johnstone's Mehri Lexicon and Jibbali Lexicon (1981). Stroomer affirms that it is a dialect of Mehri (p. xii), whereas Simeone-Senelle considers it a separate language. She does admit, however, that Bathari, along with Harsusi, is closely related to Mehri.

The most important steps towards a comprehensive descriptive grammar of Bathari language were made by Gasparini (2018).

Speakers
In terms of speaker numbers they range from 12 to 20 for Bathari to over 180,000 for Mehri.

Threat of Extinction
In addition to the threat of Arabic, Mehri also threatens to replace the Bathari language due to its less prestigious position. The tribe seems to be dying out with the language also under threat from modern education solely in Arabic. The Bathari language is nearly extinct. Estimates are that the number of remaining speakers are under 100. In 2016, Janet Watson gave an estimate of 12 to 20 (in “Language, Culture, and the Environment”). In 2019, the UAE's The National newspaper put the number of remaining elderly fluent speakers left at just 12 to 17, as well as a few dozen middle-aged speakers who mixed it with Arabic.

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Talk:Miri Ben-Ari

what other...
what other tracks has miri ben ari played violin on? --Shawn88 02:41, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Miri ben Ari did not play the violins on wutang's reunited — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.21.230 (talk) 00:31, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Where did you get your info? I say she did. I got my info from the official Wu website. Got a better one? http://wucorp.org/forum/showthread.php?s=064a423c3c822a5ab47d5f73cab8b496&t=111896&highlight=reunited+violinist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.200.41.99 (talk) 23:46, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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 * I emailed the person who was attempting to add the text - turned out to be a VP of Miri's management company. Tabercil (talk) 04:07, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

age
if she was born in 1978, she would've been 15 in 1993.

she couldn't have completed her IDF service before the age of 15.

one of these years is incorrect, or the statement that she did her service before 93 is incorrect.

on the other hand, being in college at 15 is not that unbelievable for someone with talent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.201.17.148 (talk) 02:24, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Relation to Michael Ben-Ari
Is Miri Ben-Ari related to Israeli far-right politician Michael Ben-Ari (National Union)?

Wandering Courier (talk) 04:39, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

"Symphony of Brotherhood"
I removed the following sentence in the paragraph about this song: "It became the first instrumental single ever to hit Billboard R&B/hip-hop charts, where it reached number 2."

This is simply incorrect. "Grazing in the Grass" by Hugh Masekela and "Outa-Space" and "Space Race" by Billy Preston, all of which are instrumentals with no vocals at all, all hit #1 on that chart before Ben-Ari was born. Furthermore, as indicated later in this article, "Symphony of Brotherhood" only hit #77 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart. The chart it hit #2 on was Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles Sales, which is a component of the main R&B chart. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:32, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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Geno Petralli

Eugene James Petralli (born September 25, 1959) is an American former professional baseball player. He played as a catcher in Major League Baseball for the Toronto Blue Jays and the Texas Rangers from 1982 to 1993.

Early life and education
Petralli graduated from John F. Kennedy High School in Sacramento, California, and went on to Sacramento City College. He was drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays in the third round (53rd overall pick) of the January regular phase of the 1978 Major League Baseball draft.

Toronto Blue Jays: 1978–1984
Petralli made his professional debut in 1978 with the Medicine Hat Blue Jays of the rookie Pioneer Baseball League, where he batted .281 in 65 games, playing some third base as well as catching. The following season, he started the year with the class-A Dunedin Blue Jays, batting .288 in 52 games, then was promoted to the Triple-A Syracuse Chiefs, where he batted .232 in 18 games.

In 1980, Petralli was assigned to Double-A with the Knoxville Blue Jays. In his first full season all at one level, he played 116 games and batted .285 with three home runs. Petralli was promoted back to Syracuse in 1981, where he split time with fellow catching prospects, Dan Whitmer and Ramón Lora, and appeared in just 45 games and batted .265.

In 1982, Petralli was given the full-time job at Syracuse, and he responded with minor league career bests in batting average (.289), home runs (9) and runs batted in (58). This earned him a September call-up, and he made his debut on September 4, pinch-hitting for catcher Buck Martinez and striking out. He got his first major league hit the following day, a double off the Cleveland Indians' Len Barker at Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Petralli finished the season with a .364 average in 16 games.

With Ernie Whitt and Martinez still around to handle catching duties for Toronto, and designated hitter Cliff Johnson available for emergencies, Petralli returned to Syracuse in 1983. Although his numbers slipped to a .245 average, three home runs and 40 RBI, he was again called up in September. He received only four at bats over six games and did not record a hit.

In 1984, Petralli made the major league roster out of spring training, but appeared in just three games over the first month of the season, batting three times without a hit. On May 8, his contract was sold to the Cleveland Indians.

Cleveland Indians: 1985
Petralli returned to Triple-A for the Indians, assigned to the Maine Guides. There, he served as backup to former New York Yankees prospect Juan Espino, playing in just 23 games and batting .217 without a home run. He started out the next year with Maine as well, this time behind former Rangers prospect Kevin Buckley. After just two games with the Guides in which he had one hit in seven at-bats, Petralli was released on April 23rd.

Texas Rangers: 1985–1993
Petralli signed with the Rangers on May 17, and was assigned to the Triple-A Oklahoma City 89ers. In 27 games, he batted .263. In early July, he was called up to the Rangers to replace injured starting catcher Don Slaught.

Petralli made his first appearance for the Rangers on July 9 against the Indians, going 0-for-2. Petralli's first hit as a Ranger came in a 6–0 defeat at Yankee Stadium on July 12 against Yankees pitcher Ed Whitson. With Slaught missing most of the next two months, Petralli split time with Glenn Brummer, but when Slaught returned, he assumed Brummer's role as Slaught's primary backup. Brummer was released after the season. Petralli finished the season with what were, to that point, career highs in most categories, including his first major league stolen base. He batted .270 with 11 RBI in 42 games with the Rangers.

Petralli returned to the Rangers as Slaught's backup in 1986, but the Rangers had also signed Darrell Porter as a free agent to serve as third catcher and part-time DH. When Slaught again was injured in May, the Rangers added a fourth catcher, Orlando Mercado, to the roster, and continued to carry all four for the remainder of the season once Slaught returned.

Petralli's first appearance in the field in 1986 came not as a catcher, but at third base on April 14. He struggled at the plate early in the season, and on June 9 he still had not recorded his first RBI of the year. On June 10, however, he busted out with a five RBI game against the Minnesota Twins, in which he went 3-for-5, including two doubles, to lead the Rangers to a 14–10 win. He also improved his batting average on the season from .200 to .257.

On July 13, Petralli hit his first major league home run against Indians starter and future Hall of Famer Phil Niekro as the Rangers won 5–3. His only other home run of the year was a big one, a game tying two-run pinch-hit home run in the bottom of the eighth inning off Roger Clemens during a nationally televised Monday night baseball game against the first place Boston Red Sox on August 25, 1986, at Arlington Stadium. The blast allowed Rubén Sierra to win the game with a home run in the bottom of the ninth as the Rangers remained within three games of the California Angels in the American League West. The Rangers never got closer to the Angels, however, and were eliminated by being ten games back with nine games to go on September 26. The team ultimately finished in second place, five games back.

Petralli, who served as the Rangers' Union Player Representative in 1986, once again bettered his career highs to date that year. Although his batting average had slipped to .255, he set career highs in games played, at bats, RBI and stolen bases. He also demonstrated his versatility, playing second base for the first time professionally on May 14.

In 1987, the Rangers opened the season with four catchers again. Although Mercado had been traded to the Detroit Tigers, that only opened up room on the roster for prospect Mike Stanley. However, they found playing time for Petralli all over the field, as he appeared at six different positions, including his first-ever professional appearances at first base, left field and right field.

Petralli's most important task, however, was catching knuckleball pitcher Charlie Hough. Handling the difficult pitch put Petralli in the record books three times during the season. The first came on August 22, as Petralli committed four passed balls in one inning to tie the major league record Ray Katt had set while catching knuckleballer Hoyt Wilhelm in 1954. The record was later tied by Ryan Lavarnway of the Boston Red Sox in 2013, catching knuckleballer Steve Wright in his first major league start.

Eight days later, Petralli committed six passed balls in one game to tie another record. Overall, Petralli's 35 passed balls that year—32 with Hough pitching—were the most by a big league catcher since Jack Boyle committed 71 in 1892 (surpassing J. C. Martin's modern-day record of 33 in 1965), and as of 2011 remains the most by a catcher during that time.

Offensively, Petralli continued to improve, as he became the first catcher in Rangers franchise history to bat over .300, posting a .302 average. He played in 101 games with 202 at-bats, seven home runs and 31 RBIs, all career highs to that time.

On November 2, 1987, the Rangers traded Don Slaught to the Yankees for pitcher Brad Arnsberg, and on December 21 they released Porter, leaving Petralli and Stanley as the team's top two catchers for the 1988 season. The two split time fairly evenly until Stanley was injured in July. At that time, the Rangers reacquired Jim Sundberg, who had been released by the Chicago Cubs, to share time with Petralli. Sundberg, who had played ten years for the Rangers from 1974 to 1983, wound up taking over Stanley's half of the duties, while Petralli continued to play all over the infield.

In August, Petralli hit .342 (26 hits in 76 at-bats) over the course of 25 games and was named the Rangers Player of the Month. It was the highest honor he ever received. When Stanley came back, the Rangers continued to carry three catchers, and in September they again added a fourth, bringing prospect Chad Kreuter up from the minors. Kreuter wound up catching 15 of the last 18 games of the season, with Petralli serving as the DH and catching two games.

Overall, Petralli improved on defense while regressing on offense. Although he caught Hough in nine more games in 1988 than he had in 1987, Petralli had only 20 passed balls, which was still enough to lead the majors again. His batting average, while still respectable, especially for a catcher, slipped to .282. He hit seven home runs again, and increased his RBI total to a career high 36, but he did it in 351 at-bats, nearly twice as many as in 1987.

Prior to the 1989 season, Petralli filed for salary arbitration, settling his case with the Rangers on January 20, agreeing to a salary of $325,000. He opened the 1989 season as the Rangers primary starting catcher for the first time, although Stanley, Sundberg and Kreuter remained with the team as well. At the end of May, after the team released Buddy Bell, Petralli was moved to designated hitter, with Kreuter and Sundberg taking over catching duties.

This arrangement didn't last long, as Petralli suffered a left knee injury on June 26. After a brief rehabilitation assignment with the Tulsa Drillers - the first time Petralli had spent in the minors since 1985 - Petralli returned on August 19 and resumed his role as starting catcher. He got his average as high as .324 on September 6, but got just one hit in his next 14 at-bats, and did not play after September 17, finishing the year at .304.

In 1990, Petralli spent his first and last full season as the Rangers starting catcher. Sundberg had retired after the 1989 season, and Stanley was named Petralli's backup while also spending time at DH and first base. Kreuter, who started the year as the third catcher, started the season 0-for-18 and was sent to the minor leagues in mid-May, to be replaced by John Russell.

One of the highlights of Petralli's career came on July 31, 1990, when he caught Nolan Ryan's 300th career win on Ryan's second attempt to reach that milestone. Back in a full-time role for the entire season catching Hough, Petralli led all of Major League Baseball in passed balls for the third time in four years, matching his 1988 total of 20. While he played in a career-high 133 games, his offensive numbers also took a dive, as he batted just .255 and failed to hit a home run for the first time since 1985 while driving in just 21 runs.

Despite his off year, Petralli started 1991 as the Rangers' starter once again, with Stanley again serving as primary backup. Through the end of May, it appeared that Petralli was back in his pre-1990 form, as he batted .275 in 34 games. However, he went into a slump to start June, and soon went on the disabled list with a back injury. To replace him, the Rangers promoted 19-year-old Iván Rodríguez from Tulsa and immediately installed him as their starting catcher, a position he would not relinquish until he left the Rangers as a free agent after the 2002 season.

When Petralli came back at the end of July, he found himself relegated to backup catcher, with occasional duty at DH and as a pinch hitter. He finished the season batting .271 with 2 home runs and 20 RBI in 87 games.

After the 1991 season, Petralli was granted free agency. Despite knowing he would be backing up Rodríguez, he still re-signed with the Rangers on December 7. 1992 was a particularly rough season, as he saw his average slip below the Mendoza Line for the only time in his career at .198 in 94 games. He also saw occasional duty at DH, third base and second base.

In 1993, Petralli's playing time was cut back further, as Rodríguez played in 137 games. In 59 games at catcher, DH, and the infield, Petralli bounced back to hit .241, although that was still the second-lowest average of his career. His final major league game came on Saturday October 2, 1993, in front of over 41,000 fans as the Rangers lost to Tom Gordon and the Kansas City Royals by a score of 7–4. The game was the next to last game ever played at Arlington Stadium before the Rangers moved into their new Ballpark in Arlington the next year.

Later career
Petralli became a free agent for the second time after the 1993 season. This time the Rangers did not bring him back, opting instead to sign Mike Scioscia as their backup catcher. Petralli signed with the San Diego Padres in March 1994, but did not make their roster and was released.

Shortly afterwards, Petralli caught on with the Chicago Cubs organization, where he became a player-coach for the Orlando Cubs. He injured his ribs in a home plate collision and wound up playing just eight games between Orlando and the Iowa Cubs, ending his playing career.

Career stats
Petralli led all of baseball in passed balls with 35 in 1987, 20 in 1988, and 20 in 1990. Overall, he ranks 141st as of 2011 in career passed balls despite appearing in just 574 games as a catcher. His best season was 1988, as he amassed 352 at-bats, seven home runs, 36 runs batted in and a .282 average. He hit over .300 in both 1987 & 1989.

Personal life
Petralli is the son of former minor league baseball first baseman Gene Petralli, who played from 1948 to 1953, mostly in the Chicago White Sox organization. Petralli was married on September 22, 1979, to the former Susan Patterson. They have two sons, James Isiah and Benjamin Hastings, as well as one daughter, Mary Kathryn. James currently sings and plays guitar in the band White Denim.

Ben was drafted five different times. He was first chosen by the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2004, but chose to play at his father's alma mater, Sacramento City College. He was subsequently selected by the Detroit Tigers with their 15th round draft pick in 2005, and their 17th round pick in 2006, then by the Rangers in 2007 and again in 2008. He finally made his professional debut in 2010 with the Grand Prairie AirHogs of the American Association of Independent Professional Baseball, later playing with the Normal CornBelters of the Frontier League.

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Dan Petry

Daniel Joseph Petry (born November 13, 1958) is an American former Major League Baseball pitcher for the Detroit Tigers (1979–87 and 1990–91), California Angels (1988–89), Atlanta Braves (1991) and Boston Red Sox (1991). He currently serves as a studio analyst for the Detroit Tigers on Bally Sports Detroit.

Playing career
Petry helped the Tigers win the 1984 World Series and the 1987 American League Eastern Division, and helped the Braves win the 1991 National League pennant. He was elected to the American League All-Star team in 1985. He led the American League in games started (38) in 1983. In 1982 and 1984, Petry finished ninth and fifth, respectively, in American League Cy Young Award voting.

In 13 years he had a 125-104 record (.546), 370 appearances, 300 games started, 52 complete games, 11 shutouts, one save, $2,080 1/3$ innings pitched, 1,984 hits allowed, 1,025 runs allowed, 912 earned runs allowed, 218 home runs allowed, 852 walks allowed, 1,063 strikeouts, 47 hit batsmen, 77 wild pitches, seven balks and a 3.95 earned run average.

Petry only appeared in 13 games as a Red Sox, but in 1991, that is where he ended his career. Used strictly as a relief pitcher, he managed to pick up his one and only MLB save. It came on September 30, 1991 against the Brewers. Petry pitched 1 2/3 scoreless innings to close out a wild 9-8 Red Sox victory over the Brewers.

Defensively, Petry was an above average fielding pitcher, posting a .980 fielding percentage, committing only 12 errors in 603 total chances, which was 23 points higher than the league average at his position.

Post-playing career
In 2012, Petry served as a substitute color analyst for the Detroit Tigers Radio Network, teaming with play-by-play announcer Dan Dickerson for several road games while regular analyst Jim Price recuperated from health problems. In 2022, he resumed filling in for Price while the Tigers were on the road.

On January 15, 2019, Petry was named a studio analyst for the Detroit Tigers on Bally Sports Detroit.

Personal life
Petry and his wife, Christine have two sons, Matt, who was the head coach of the Orchard Lake St. Mary’s baseball team, who have won three Michigan High School Athletic Association championships under Petry, and Jeff, who currently is a defenseman for the Detroit Red Wings of the National Hockey League. Petry attended El Dorado High School in Placentia, California, where he was a CIF championship winning pitcher.

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Holiday in the Sun (film)

Holiday in the Sun is a 2001 American direct-to-video romantic adventure family film directed by Steve Purcell and starring Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen as two teenagers on vacation at Atlantis Paradise Island.

Plot
Madison and Alex Stewart are twin sisters from Illinois who are whisked away to Atlantis Resort in The Bahamas by their parents for winter break. Initially, the sisters are disappointed that they didn't get to go to Hawaii with their friends, but overcome it by enjoying their newly earned freedom in the form of their own suite, as well as the pristine beaches of the Caribbean. Alex falls for "hottie" Jordan, a worker at the resort. She's not the only one with her eye on Jordan – the spoiled heiress, Brianna Wallace is also in love with him, and plays dirty to get her way. Madison, meanwhile, is being wooed by cute, but brainless, Scott, who in turn is being coached behind the scenes by Griffen, a childhood friend of Madison's with a not-so-subtle crush, to talk to Madison and eventually get her under his thumb. The sisters' holiday of fun in the sun is interrupted when Jordan is blamed for allegedly fencing stolen antiquities. Griffen and the twins dodge their meanwhile suspicious parents to find and expose the real culprit, understanding the true meaning of sisterhood along with having a great vacation.

Cast

 * Mary-Kate Olsen as Madison Brittany Stewart
 * Ashley Olsen as Alexandra Anneliese "Alex" Stewart
 * Austin Nichols as Griffen Grayson
 * Ben Easter as Jordan Landers
 * Billy Aaron Brown as Scott
 * Markus Flanigan as Harrison
 * Jamie Rose as Judy
 * Jeff Altman as Chad
 * Wendy Schaal as Jill
 * Ashley Hughes as Keegan
 * Megan Fox as Brianna Wallace
 * Ashley Kelly as Trish
 * Sterling Rice as Carmen
 * Phillip Sands as Ziggy
 * C.J. Ansell as Good Looking Kid
 * Ben Christian as Boy in Club
 * Spencer Roberts as Surfer
 * Jason Deveaux as Stan
 * Ben J. Michaels as Jeffrey
 * Gordon Mills as Teacher
 * Chelera Bateman as Liz
 * Cesar Alava as Champlaine
 * Scott Adderley as Security Guard
 * Tony Roberts as Policeman
 * Dawn Forbs as Katherine
 * Steve Purcell as Director
 * Rob Lundsgaard as D.P.
 * Dale Russell as Chauffeur
 * Eric Davis as Carriage Driver
 * Tenby Turner, Enith Hernandez and Chris Bruck as Bikini Models
 * Brittany Galiano as herself on the beach (uncredited)

 * Play as themselves
 * Anaïs Lameche as herself at the party (Uncredited)
 * Faye Hamlin as herself at the party (Uncredited)
 * Anna Sundstrand as herself at the party (Uncredited)
 * Rosie Munter as herself at the party (Uncredited)

*Billed as 'Megan Fox' in opening credits, and as 'Megan Denise Fox' in closing credits.

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Dan Plesac

Daniel Thomas Plesac (born February 4, 1962) is an American former Major League Baseball pitcher who played from 1986 to 2003. He pitched for the Milwaukee Brewers, Toronto Blue Jays, Chicago Cubs, Pittsburgh Pirates, Arizona Diamondbacks, and Philadelphia Phillies.

Early life
Plesac attended Crown Point High School in Crown Point, Indiana, where he excelled in baseball, basketball, football, and track.

Plesac played college baseball for the NC State Wolfpack in the early 1980s. Plesac was inducted to the North Carolina State Baseball Hall of Fame in 2010.

Major Leagues
A hard thrower with a mid-90 mph fastball and great slider, Plesac was originally a starting pitcher before becoming the closer of the Milwaukee Brewers. Plesac served primarily as a left-handed specialist from the mid-1990s until the end of his career, pitching for the Blue Jays twice, the Diamondbacks, and the Phillies.

He was elected to the American League All-Star team three times (1987, 1988 and 1989) and ended his career with a 65–71 record, a 3.64 ERA in 1,064 games and 1,072 innings pitched. In 1988, Plesac recorded three saves against the Twins in a weekend series immediately preceding the 1988 All Star Game in Cincinnati. Due to travel complications, he flew to Cincinnati on the Reds team chartered plane.

Plesac holds numerous all-time Brewers pitching records (minimum 500 innings pitched). He is the franchise's career leader in games, saves and ERA. He is second in K/9 and WHIP (BB + H/IP), in both cases to Ben Sheets, and is fifth in K/BB ratio.

He was the last Phillies pitcher to pitch at Veterans Stadium. He struck out the only batter he faced, Ryan Langerhans, to record the third out in the top of the ninth inning on September 28, 2003, as the Phillies lost to the Atlanta Braves, 5–2.

In his 18-year career, Plesac was never on the disabled list, never having surgery in or off season.

Television career
Plesac worked as a news telecaster for Comcast Sportsnet Chicago, co-hosting as a highlighter for Chicago Cubs and pre and post game shows from 2005 until the end of the 2008 season. Plesac joined the MLB Network and became an analyst January 2009. He appears on MLB Tonight and is an occasional guest host for Intentional Talk. He also served as a broadcaster for the MLB: The Show video game franchise. Plesac served as color commentator for the world feed of the 2021 World Series and 2022 All-Star Game produced by MLB International, airing in over 200 countries as well as on the American Forces Network. During the 2021 World Series, he worked alongside Scott Braun, who provided play-by-play, while for the 2022 All Star Game, he worked with Jason Benetti.

Personal life
An avid horse racing fan, Plesac became a horse trainer after retirement and once saved an old horse he previously owned after learning it was left in poor condition. He has two nephews currently in Major League Baseball, Zach Plesac and Blaze Alexander.

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Talk:Beating retreat

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I would dispute the premise of this article. Beating the Retreat seems to be a British ceremony which is performed by not only India but also by England and Australia. It can probably be found in the military of any Commonwealth country. I'm not saying that the facts are incorrect, simply that the topic is far broader than is presented here and it seems incorrect to have this page documenting only the Indian use. --Lod 02:43, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree. But this particular event is perhaps the most important and publicised event of all of them. --Deepak|वार्ता 07:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could add sections which talks about such a ceremony in other parts of the world. We have seperate topics for Changing of guards at London, Edinburgh Military Tatoo etc. A change of the title is also an okay move. 203.91.193.5 06:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)Qmsarge203.91.193.5 06:35, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Beating Retreat or Beating The Retreat I can confirm is a British Military Parade as well, and I think this article should be expanded to include that. The B.R. parade in London on Horse Guards Parade, is normally run for two days, once a year and the Salute is taken by a member of the Royal Family. 23rd April 2006
 * I would not necessarily agree that the Indian version is the most important of them all - and even if it were, the other Commonwealth countries should still be mentioned. Campdavid 18:29, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * At the very least the name of the article should be changed to Beating Retreat Ceremony in India. I think Deepak Gupta is incorrect in saying that the Indian version is the most important one. I would guess that the most important and elaborate event must indeed be the Mother version, the British one. Before posting articles or stating opinions emphatically, it would be a good idea to do some research. SK June 24 2006.
 * I feel the page has been edited well. It now just mentions that Beating Retreat is a Military ceremony, and below that the Indian ceremony has been explained. It would be nice if UK and/or any other commonwealth nation put down their versions too.

I have edited the article now such that the British version appears at the top, but other versions are mentioned in the same detail as before under sub-titles of their own country. This approach seemed best fitting as the tradition is a British one, which is still a very public event in the UK, and as the oldest should take precidence in the article. Others have been left in the order that they were added by other users. The Picture used in the article at present is of British Guards on the Mall, and again, this is justified by the fact that the general info on the parade is under the British section. Philip.t.day (talk) 16:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

After further editing, there are more images and the British Section is much more large. Other commetns on this talk page may now be out of date. Philip.t.day (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Form of the ceremony
The article doesn't actually describe what goes on in the ceremony. Also, a bit more on its historical origins wrt the rest of Europe (day's end ceremonies are by no means unique to the UK) could be useful. Grosser Zapfenstreich and so on are all essentially the same with a few pieces of music, some kind of formal signal and/or hymn part etc., i.e. it is nothing more than a form of tattoo (though you'll need sources :D) 118.90.35.155 (talk) 13:18, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

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Jim Presley

James Arthur Presley (born October 23, 1961) is a former Major League Baseball infielder with an eight-year career from 1984 to 1991. He played for the Seattle Mariners of the American League and the Atlanta Braves and San Diego Padres of the National League. He was primarily a third baseman but also saw some time playing first base. His nickname was "Hound Dog".

As a youth, he played baseball through the Dixie Youth association, first at Pensacola Brent then later Pensacola Myrtle Grove. He graduated from Escambia High School in 1978.

While playing for Seattle in 1986, Presley became only the second batter in Major League history to hit two walk-off grand slams in the same season, joining Cy Williams, who had done so in 1926. Also in 1986, Presley was named to the American League All-Star team after hitting .265 with 27 home runs and a career high 107 RBIs. Injuries began to derail his career a couple of years later, and by 1992 he had segued from playing to coaching.

On December 21, 2005, he was signed to be the hitting coach for the Florida Marlins. He was fired along with manager Fredi González and bench coach Carlos Tosca on June 23, 2010. He was replaced on an interim basis by John Mallee, who was the Marlins minor league hitting coordinator.

On October 8, 2010, Presley was inducted into the Escambia High School Sports Hall of Fame during halftime of an EHS football game along with former Dallas Cowboys Hall of Fame running back Emmitt Smith and a few other EHS alumni.

Presley joined the Baltimore Orioles as their hitting coach for the 2011 season.

Pro career
The Seattle Mariners drafted Presley in the fourth round of the June MLB draft in 1979. Presley made his pro debut at the age of 17 for Seattle's Single A team, the Bellingham Mariners. Drafted as a shortstop, Presley converted to third base in the minor leagues. This improved his odds, as while Presley was having his struggles in the minors with his bat, Seattle in 1982 drafted Spike Owen in the first round of the 1982 draft, and fast-tracked him to the majors. While Presley showed power, hitting more than 20 homers many times, his batting average suffered. In 1984, as a member of the Triple-A Salt Lake City Gulls, Presley had one of his best seasons as a pro, batting .317 with 13 home runs. This earned him a summertime call-up to the majors, essentially to take over third base, which was being held down by veteran Larry Milbourne. Seattle had looked at Darnell Coles for the position, but he could never stay healthy long enough. Along with shortstop Owen and power-hitting first baseman Alvin Davis, Seattle had the makings of a strong infield.

In 1985, the Mariners finished in last place, but Presley provided power with 28 home runs and a .275 batting average. In 1986, Presley was selected to the All-Star team, but he did not see any action sitting behind Wade Boggs and Brook Jacoby. In that same season, Presley made baseball history by becoming just the second player to hit two walk-off grand slams in the same season. Until then, the only player to have done so was Cy Williams. In 1987, both his power numbers (24 home runs, and batting average of .247) dipped. However, he did record a career-high 107 RBIs and led the American League in assists by a third baseman. In 1990, Seattle traded Presley to the Atlanta Braves in exchange for career minor league infielder Ken Pennington and pitcher Gary Eave. Presley was only in Atlanta for one season and signed with the San Diego Padres as a free agent in 1991. He only appeared in 20 games for San Diego and then was on the move again, signing with the Texas Rangers. Presley never played at the major league level for Texas, instead playing for their Triple-A farm club, the Oklahoma City 89ers.

While playing for Seattle, Presley set the team record for most home runs hit by a third baseman which has since been broken by Kyle Seager.

Managing and coaching career
In 2004, Presley became the manager of the Missoula Osprey of the Pioneer League. He only managed the team for two seasons, compiling a 61–88 record. Presely has served as a hitting coach for the Arizona Diamondbacks from 1998 to 2000, Florida Marlins from 2006 to 2010, The Baltimore Orioles from 2011 to 2014 and the Texas Rangers from 2016 to 2017. In 2018, the CTBC Brothers of the CPBL named Presley as their hitting coach. Presley was fired by the Brothers on September 18, 2018 and replaced by Tack Wilson.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of hidden tracks

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. I'll add a merge tag or two, though. -Splash talk 21:56, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

List of hidden tracks
There are thousands of hidden tracks.
 * Delete. Unmaintainable list. --SuperDude 02:44, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - If this is kept, it will grow at a faster rate than Skynet. I can personally add a crapload on right now, and so can pretty much anyone. - 83.151.204.235 04:18, 30 September 2005 (UTC) Hahnchen 15:14, 30 September 2005 (UTC) login must have expired
 * Keep, Wikipedia is not paper. Kappa 06:44, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep,I agree that Wikipedia is not paper. Joaquin Murietta 07:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, having the tracks listed on the album's article is sufficient. Also, we must keep Wikipedia from becoming self-aware as per 83.151.204.235. -- Kjkolb 08:41, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a collection of trivia. Average Earthman 09:28, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep the hidden-track craze is important to music history and should be documented...but we also have an article List of albums containing a hidden track which covers much the same territory. Ideally I'd say that article should be merged into this one, but vice versa would be okay too. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  10:20, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. The craze for personalised number plates is important to the history of car ownership too, but it doesn't mean we should list every single one of them; an overview article with some notable examples would be more than enough. If some way could be found of sifting out only those hidden tracks which had been notable in themselves that might be different, but I can't see how that could be done. In any case, that would fit better in the article Andrew/Starblind mentioned above. Loganberry (Talk) 11:08, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment I disagree that it's unmaintainable; true, it's an incomplete and open-ended list but it can be added to (and so improved) over time. All the same, I agree that there would seem to be a need for some criteria as to which tracks are included if there really are thousands of them.  Marcus22 11:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. The more interesting ones can go in Hidden tracks. Reconsider if and when the number is so large that the size of the Hidden tracks article becomes unwieldy. What is the case for saying that someone looking for information on hidden tracks is going to type in "List of hidden tracks" rather than "hidden tracks," or that the search feature and/or Google will be any more effective in finding them if they are in a separate article? Dpbsmith (talk) 12:32, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge into Hidden track or Keep if the resulting article would be too unwieldy. This satisfies my main criterion for lists, which is that the list must add value in some way to an existing Wikipedia article. This is a useful supplement to Hidden track, which describes a salient and established practice in pop music. android  79  12:48, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per DPBSmith, or merge the most noteworthy examples into Hidden track or List of albums containing a hidden track. Uncompleteable.  Barno 15:21, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * keep First, Wikipedia is not paper. Second, any item on this list can easily be verified. Third, I would say a list like this can add value to other articles, as mentioned above. Roodog2k (talk) 21:13, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Impossible to keep up with, and also somewhat paradoxical per title name(unless we rename it to "formerly hidden tracks now found on Wikipedia") Karmafist 21:37, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge mentions of some of the more notable songs into Hidden track. we don't need them all, though. --Jacquelyn Marie 22:01, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge, per 79. >:  Roby Wayne  Talk •  Hist 23:42, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I would delete this entirely as an unmaintainable, unencyclopedic list. MCB 00:55, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as destination for link from Hidden track. Denni ☯ 02:44, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I find Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 's reasoning persuasive. Rx StrangeLove 14:15, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to list of albums containing a hidden track. -Sean Curtin 00:22, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete This is an encyclopædia, not an indiscriminate collection of information. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 22:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Agree with reasons provided by Dpbsmith. Carbonite | Talk 16:38, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge the two articles.  Grue  16:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philliesphans.com

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The result of the debate was DELETE.  Rob e  rt  23:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Philliesphans.com
Non-notable fansite. Delete --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 02:33, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, article is promotional, links already mentioned on Philadelphia Phillies. - Mgm|(talk) 09:26, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Keep

This is the best phan site in the history of phandom. To delete a Philadelphia fan website would be yet another blow in a long sorry history of Philliephandom. It is OK with me if you delete the Phillies web site, if that violates some Wiki rules. If given a chance this page will grow into a source of baseball knowledge and philadelphia phandom knowledge.joboggi Sept 30, 2005
 * Above comment by anonymous user User:208.59.165.121, who has three edits, all involving this article and this AFD page.  Ral  315   WS  15:55, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Keep- Keep it. You will feel better about yourself.
 * Delete in agreement with Mgm. From the stub: "With WilliamC as the catalyst of great posters and analysis this site has come a long way from its beginning."  Too bad that's not true for the nominated WP page.  Barno 15:23, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above- site is non-notable in Wikipedia terms.  Ral  315   WS  15:53, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * KeepWhile this is indeed a fan site, it is unique from other fan sites in the way it is organized and maintained. This is the kind of thing that should be preserved for posterity.
 * Delete per MGM. Can't say the "unsigned" voters are helping their case much, either. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  18:19, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Deletion makes me feel like a big man. Delete as a non-notable and unremarkable fansite. Lord Bob 19:30, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Keep-I came across this page today and I find it very valuable. I get to see how phillies fans think on a real board.

Keep-I originally said delete, but finding now that there is an entry for "Sons of Sam Horn" I've changed my opinion. The entry will be upgraded in terms of appearance and content shortly, if it is not deleted, by board members. I have no idea why "Sons" should be notable, but "philliesphans" wouild be non-notable. Is is a Red Sox vs. Phillies thing, or does it have to do with the entry itself? --phillychuck, a moderator of said site.

Keep- and it seems the majority here agrees.
 * Just a note that the forum does have a topic about the Wikipedia article and its AfD status, and though they, to their credit, don't seem to be calling out the vote on this, I think it's safe to say that the majority if not the entirety of this collection of anonys are simply forum members sticking up for their board. Lord Bob 20:12, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I just read that, and think it's worth mentioning that they do seem to be fairly mature about it, which is better than a number of forum-based stuff that's been deleted in the past. The post by "donmoney" is particularly good and quite reasonable about the whole thing.  For anyone coming here from the forum, I'd like to point out that ( 1 ) we're voting about the topic, not the article... it isn't a matter of making it bigger, or adding pictures, or anything like that ( 2 ) votes from new or anonymous users generally aren't counted, and a whole lot of them tends to make the article look bad and thus less likely to be kept.  Feel free to comment and add to the discussion though. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  20:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Even though I initiated the AfD, I'd like to second Starblind's note on how they are handeling it. Props.  --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 23:50, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete per Mgm. Nice to see some new users around, though. -Splash talk 20:59, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

As noted above, Son of Sam Horn warrants a page. If you take a look at the site it is as good as any, and certainly as good as Son of Sam Horn. The discussion of sabremetrics demystifies these stats for many uninformed phans. The folks posting are generally professionals. donmoney being a lawyer, PC is in stats and so on. As with Son of Sam Horn the contacts that post on the site often scoop the media on Phillies information. The site is not commercial in any way, contrary to a note at the top of the page. joboggi

Delete, delete, delete. This group makes baseball sound so dry and empty. Lacking in passion and color. Their use of stats is pointed out as a reason to be allowed on wiki. Their gross overuse of stats sucks all the life out of this passionate game. This is not an attempt at serious archiving but in advertising this site. Delete.

Let me add a comment--we have no need nor desire to advertise the board broadly (or narrowly). We want quality of content, not quantity, and we do not run a single advertisement, nor make a single cent profit from any poster. The site is entirely privately funded by the founder, and has never accepted a donation nor solicited support of any kind. If one is a phillies fan (or likes to discuss politics or philosophy), sure, we'd love to have you come by occasionally. My feeling still is that SOSH, though a bit more prominent nationally, is a perfect precedent for this decision (wiki mgmt may not know that this board was notable in the fight by private fan boards to stop MLB from shutting down private fan sites, was written up in the Phila. Inquirer for this, and participated materially in getting the Phils to acknowledge (again with help from the Inky) that they had mis-measured the dimensions of Citizen Bank Park, and was active in helping to apprehend and convict a noted internet criminal). Regarding the use of stats on the board and making baseball "dry"--that's a joke. We just want people who make assertions ("Bobby Abreu stinks") to support their position with some reasoned arguments, which, in baseball, often leads to the use of stats. The part of the stats FAQ posted in the article is an attempt to HELP users unfamiliar with sabermetric stats decipher posts from users who employ them, nothing more. --phillychuck again

Delete. nn website. Now I feel better. User:Zoe|(talk) 07:08, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

As you know, management weighed in when the site was two lines of joke material. In the baseball world, this site is very well respected as noted in PCs message above. joboggi

KEEP- you elitist snobs, there are some websites that are listed on here that if they are here so should this.

KEEP-DISCO STU
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mater Hades

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The result of the debate was no consensus (thus keep), but possibly a copyvio, so I listed the page on WP:CP. Jitse Niesen (talk) 22:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Mater Hades
Actually, I can't make sense of it, but it is like a project-born-of-band-vanity. — brighterorange  (talk) 02:45, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
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 * Delete as copyvio, then. Ilmari Karonen 00:41, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
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In the Groove (Marvin Gaye album)

In the Groove is the eighth studio album by soul musician Marvin Gaye, released on August 26, 1968 on the Motown-subsidiary label Tamla Records. It was the first solo studio album Gaye released in two years, in which during that interim, the singer had emerged as a successful duet partner with female R&B singers such as Kim Weston and Tammi Terrell. In the Groove was reissued and retitled as I Heard It Through the Grapevine after the unexpected success of Gaye's recording of the same name, which had been released as a single from the original album.

Background
By the end of 1967, Marvin Gaye had released only one solo single in 18 months. Between his Kim Weston duet, "It Takes Two" and his Tammi Terrell duets, "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" and "Your Precious Love" among others, Gaye had released "Your Unchanging Love", which peaked at number 33 on the Billboard Hot 100.

Motown brought Gaye back to the studio in the beginning of 1967 to record a solo album. Recording difficulties aside, Gaye's vocals went through a transition through this period. Perhaps done on purpose, Gaye's earlier collaborator Norman Whitfield and his pupil, Frank Wilson, began to write songs they felt fit the singer's chaotic personal life: Gaye's marriage to Anna Gordy was turbulent as was life on the road in which Gaye grew a constant dislike to live performances and his personal disagreements with Motown CEO Berry Gordy had started to create strain in his relationship with the Motown label.

On top of that, during an October 1967 engagement at Hampden-Sydney College with Terrell, the younger Terrell collapsed from exhaustion into Gaye's waiting arms. Terrell was later diagnosed at the end of the year with having a brain tumor, which depressed Gaye. Some speculate Terrell's illness and subsequent death two and a half years later affected Gaye's performances in which he went from being a soul stylist in the same way his idol Sam Cooke had been into a more gospel-influenced soul vocalist who sounded more in par with Otis Redding, James Brown, and Temptations lead singer David Ruffin. However, during the recording of what would become Gaye's biggest-selling and signature single of his career, "I Heard It Through the Grapevine", Whitfield decided to force Gaye to raise his vocal register higher than what he was used to, which Whitfield already tried successfully on Ruffin during the recording of the Temptations hit, "Ain't Too Proud to Beg". Though Gaye and Whitfield reportedly argued over the sessions of "Grapevine", Whitfield was able to get what he wanted from Gaye.

When Whitfield presented "Grapevine" to Berry Gordy, the producer was stunned when Gordy turned it down sensing the song "wasn't a hit" and that "it sucked". In response, Whitfield recorded a different version of the song by Gladys Knight & the Pips in an attempt to "out-funk Aretha Franklin's "Respect". This version, released in September 1967 became the biggest Motown hit to date. After the success of Gladys Knight & the Pips' version Whitfield was still determined to get Gaye's version of the song released as a single. Again Gordy refused but eventually agreed to allow "Grapevine" on the album.

Release and reception
Instead of releasing "Grapevine" as a single, Motown issued the Ivy Jo Hunter-produced "You", which was recorded after "Grapevine". The single was released in December 1967, eight months prior to the release of the album. The song showcased Gaye hollering in falsetto for the first time. The single would peak at number 34 on the Billboard Hot 100 and number 7 on the Hot-Selling Soul Singles.

In the Groove was eventually released in August 1968 accompanied by a second single, "Chained". The single would eventually peak at number 32 on the pop chart and number 8 on the R&B chart. The song was still climbing the charts when radio deejays began playing "I Heard It Through the Grapevine". When Gordy finally allowed the release of Gaye's version of "Grapevine", the song blew up on the charts upon its October 1968 release. By the end of the year, the song had hit number-one on both the Hot 100 and the Hot-Selling Soul Singles charts and by 1969 had reached number one on the UK Singles chart becoming Gaye's first international smash and outselling the Gladys Knight & The Pips version of the song, thus becoming the most successful Motown single to date. However, when Gaye heard about its success, he acted coldly to it due to his depressed state over Tammi Terrell. He later told a biographer he felt the song's success was "undeserved".

After the single's commercial success, Motown re-released the album as I Heard It Through the Grapevine and, as a result, the album shot up to number 2 on the R&B albums chart and peaked at number 63 on the pop albums chart, his biggest selling album to date. The album also marked Gaye's first attempts at producing himself in the studio with his own self-penned songs, the funky gospel dancer, "At Last I Found a Love", and the smoother "Change What You Can". Though Whitfield only produced one song on the album (producers included Ivy Jo Hunter, Ashford & Simpson and Frank Wilson), Gaye and Whitfield would embark on a two-album collaboration.

Gaye's album wasn't the only album to be re-released after a hit single: in 1970, The Miracles' Make It Happen album, initially released in 1967, was re-released in 1970 as Tears of a Clown, after that song hit number-one in the US and internationally. That same year, Diana Ross' self-titled debut album was re-released as Ain't No Mountain High Enough after that song's success.

Critical reception to In the Groove has been generally positive. According to Robert Christgau, it was an example of how "Gaye was so rhythmically and dynamically astute that his albums sustained" even during his phase as "a Motown matinee idol". Fellow critic Tom Hull singled out Gaye's cover of "Some Kind of Wonderful" as "nonpareil" while deeming the rest of the album "solid", although he concluded that "as a single he can't quite compete on songs you know from Motown's groups." AllMusic reviewer John Bush found it indicative of Gaye never being too dependant on Motown's Holland–Dozier–Holland songwriting-production team, as he "weathered their departure pretty well" with the album.

Personnel

 * Marvin Gaye – lead vocals
 * The Andantes – background vocals (tracks: 2, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11)
 * The Originals – background vocals (tracks: 2, 3, 7, 9, and 10)
 * Gladys Knight & The Pips – background vocals (tracks: 1 and 5)
 * Telma Hopkins – background vocals (tracks: 6 and 12)
 * Joyce Vincent Wilson – background vocals (tracks: 6 and 12)
 * Pamela Vincent – background vocals (tracks: 6 and 12)
 * The Funk Brothers – instrumentation
 * Detroit Symphony Orchestra – instrumentation
 * Norman Whitfield – producer
 * Ivy Jo Hunter – producer
 * Frank Wilson – producer

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1935–36 NHL season

The 1935–36 NHL season was the 19th season of the National Hockey League (NHL). The St. Louis Eagles dropped out of the league, leaving eight teams. The Detroit Red Wings were the Stanley Cup winners as they beat the Toronto Maple Leafs three games to one in the Stanley Cup Finals.

League business
Prior to the season, the St. Louis Eagles franchise owners asked the league for permission to suspend operations for a year and then relocate back to Ottawa, however the league denied the requests. On October 15, 1935, the NHL bought back the franchise and players contracts for $40,000 and suspended operations. Chicago would not participate in the dispersal draft, while St. Louis would not have another NHL team until 1967.

During the season, the New York Americans were reported in financial trouble and were up for sale. Leo Dandurand, who had sold his interest in the Montreal Canadiens, was interested as was Joseph Cattarinich. Cattarinich said he would buy the team if the price was right. Later it was announced there would be no deal.

This was the first year the Boston Bruins switched from brown and gold to their now-familiar black and gold uniforms, while also placing the number on the front instead of the block B, which was moved to smaller B's on the shoulders.

Regular season
Howie Morenz played badly for Chicago and incurred the wrath of Chicago owner Frederic McLaughlin. He was subsequently traded to the New York Rangers.

This was the year of Detroit. They finished first in the American Division. The Montreal Maroons finished first in the Canadian Division, but fans were starting to stay away from games they played, which worried now team president, manager and coach Tommy Gorman. At one point, Lionel Conacher had to run the team when Gorman experienced health and nervous problems. At .500 at mid-season, they traded Toe Blake for Lorne Chabot, owned by the Canadiens after being suspended by Chicago and refusing demotion to the minors, and the team began to win with Chabot in the net.

Quarterfinals
This was the final year that the league used a two-game total-goals series.

(A1) Detroit Red Wings vs. (C1) Montreal Maroons
The first game of the Maroons-Red Wings series set a record for the longest game in Stanley Cup playoff history, as well as the longest ice hockey game ever played. The game began at 8:30 p.m. at the Forum in Montreal, and ended at 2:25 a.m. The game was scoreless until the sixth overtime, when Mud Bruneteau scored on Maroon goaltender Lorne Chabot to win the game. Normie Smith shut out the Maroons in the next game, and the Red Wings then beat the Maroons to win the series.

Awards
Eddie Shore won his second consecutive Hart trophy. Frank Boucher's run of seven Lady Byng trophy awards came to an end as Doc Romnes won the award. Tiny Thompson won the Vezina trophy for the third time in his career.

Scoring leaders
Note: GP = Games played, G = Goals, A = Assists, PTS = Points, PIM = Penalties in minutes Source: NHL.

American Division

 * Boston Bruins: Frank Patrick
 * Chicago Black Hawks: Clem Loughlin
 * Detroit Red Wings: Jack Adams
 * New York Rangers: Lester Patrick

Canadian Division

 * Montreal Canadiens: Sylvio Mantha
 * Montreal Maroons: Tommy Gorman
 * New York Americans: Rosie Helmer
 * Toronto Maple Leafs: Dick Irvin

Debuts
The following is a list of players of note who played their first NHL game in 1935–36 (listed with their first team, asterisk(*) marks debut in playoffs):
 * Ray Getliffe, Boston Bruins
 * Woody Dumart, Boston Bruins
 * Mike Karakas, Chicago Black Hawks
 * Mud Bruneteau, Detroit Red Wings
 * Alex Shibicky, New York Rangers
 * Babe Pratt, New York Rangers
 * Neil Colville, New York Rangers
 * Phil Watson, New York Rangers
 * Reg Hamilton, Toronto Maple Leafs

Last games
The following is a list of players of note that played their last game in the NHL in 1935–36 (listed with their last team):
 * Joe Primeau, Toronto Maple Leafs

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Divorce in Washington State

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Divorce in Washington State
WP:NOT a howto. — brighterorange  (talk) 02:46, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as above.--KJPurscell 04:55, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Joaquin Murietta 07:36, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.--Alhutch 18:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, but there must be an article on divorce law in the US that I can't manage to find: it could be redir/merged there as appropriate. -Splash talk 21:02, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
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 * Delete. I'm glad to learn how to divorce someone in my own state, but still useless. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:53, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
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Xie (surname)

Xie is a Chinese-language surname. lt is usually romanized as "Hsieh" in Taiwan. It is estimated that there are more than ten million people with this surname, most of whom live in Taiwan, Southern China, South East Asia, America, Europe and Africa. It is particularly common in Taiwan where it is the 13th most common surname in 2016. It is also very common in the east Asian diaspora which historically tended to have disproportionately emigrated out of southern China. A 2013 study found that Xie was the 23rd most common surname in China, with 0.79% of the population having this surname. In 2019 it was again the 23rd most common surname in mainland China. Most Xie are from southern China. It is the 34th name on the Hundred Family Surnames poem.

The surname originated in two major branches: during the Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors period, and near the end of the Western Zhou dynasty. It was a prominent aristocratic clan in the Eastern Jin dynasty of China. The hometown of the Xie is Kaifeng, Henan Province.

Variations
The spelling of the same Chinese character using Wade–Giles romanization is Hsieh. The spelling "Hsieh" is most commonly used in Taiwan and in older romanizations, particularly by older generations of the Chinese and Taiwanese diaspora, for instance in the United States. "Hsieh" has been often phonologically adapted to "Shay" in English-speaking society, for instance in the United States, as a result of anglicisation. Other variations are pronounced "Sh'eh" and the spelling is sometimes modified as Shieh.

The Cantonese spelling of the same Chinese character is Tse or Tze and the Taishanese spelling of the same Chinese character is Dea, Der, Dare, or Dear. The Teochew and Hokkien spelling of the same Chinese character is Chia, Shia, Cheah, or Sia.

In Malaysia and Singapore, the name is most commonly Chia, although Cheah, Seah, Sia, Shia, Cha, Tse, Chay, etc. can also be found. During the Chinese diaspora, the region was administered by British Empire clerks, who knew little about Chinese dialects, often had to find their own romanizations. As a result, the variations are non-exhaustive.

In the Philippines, the name is also spelled as Sese (which also means thank you in Kapampangan, the language in Pampanga, where the first Xie settled), which is also a variation in the rest of the ASEAN region, Taiwan, and South Korea. In Indonesia, the name is also spelt as Tjhia or Tjia. In East Timor, as a legacy of Portuguese colonialism and lingua franca, Xie is also produced as Tchia, Tchea, Tsia, Tcha, and Tjea. The Vietnamese version is Tạ.

In the United States, the name is sometimes spelled as Jair and Zia. Other variations of the surname include Shea and Shei.

Origins and history
During the legendary Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors period, the Xie were believed to be the descendants of Yuyang, son of the Yellow Emperor. Yuyang's descendants founded ten states successively, the State of Xie (谢) first, and its occupants becoming the first Xie.

For the purpose of reciprocating his mother's upbringing, King Xuan of Zhou (r. 827 – 782 BCE) of the Western Zhou dynasty granted the former State of Xie, in modern Nanyang, Henan province, to his maternal uncle Shen Boxi, the Marquess of Shen, whose line claimed descent from the semi-mythological character Bo Yi. The people of Xie later adopted the name of the state as their surname.

In the Eastern Jin dynasty, the Xie were among the cluster of noble clans who fled to the south in the wake of the fall of Chang'an, dominating the court thereafter. The legend has it that it derived from Yellow Emperor Tribe: almost vanished in “Xia, Shang, Zhou” dynasty. The legend has it that it derived from Ren Clan in Xie State, descendant of Yellow Emperor, It takes the State name as Clan. Its land was manor of Shen Bo until the Zhou dynasty got perished, the descendant of Shen Bo took the State name as Clan. Derived from Yan Emperor Tribe: the Ancestor Shen Bo is generally acknowledged by contemporary Xie Clan. Derived from Jiang Clan, came from the inherited manor Xie for the descendant of Yan Emperor and Shen Bo, it takes the State name as Clan. The royal descendant of State Shen who takes the place name as Clan, called Xie Clan, its so-called Henan Xie Clan, known as Xie Clan Orthodox in history. Most of the contemporary Xie Clan people respects Shen Bo as the first ancestor. Changed into Zhile Clan.

The litterateur Xie Yan in the late Sui dynasty and early Tang dynasty (?–643), changed Xie into Zhi Le, his grandfather Xiao Zheng was emperor's regular attendant of horse riding, restored to Xie after the Sui dynasty.

The compound surname of Xieqiu, derived from Ji Clan, came from the manor Xie Shui which was granted by King Xuan for his concubine, it takes the densely populated place as the Clan. In the Western Zhou dynasty, the King Xuan of Ji Jing once granted his concubine with Xie Shui waterfront in the South-West of Luoyang. After the King Ping of Ji Yijiu transferred to Luoyang, these clan people also moved to Gongqiu (old Yunzhou, present-day Ningyang, Shandong). In memory of the old house, the concubine's son for King Xuan also call the newly granted Gongqiu as Xie Qiu, after that, some Clan people take the densely populated place Xie Qiu as Clan, called Xie Qiu Clan, there was Xie Qiu Zhang at Lu State in the Spring and Autumn period.

Xie clan of Chen commandery

 * Xie An (謝安) (320–385), statesman and prime minister of the Jin dynasty
 * Xie Daoyun (謝道韫) (340–399), Jin dynasty scholar, poet and debater
 * Xie Xuan (謝玄) (343–388), Duke of Kangle, Jin dynasty general
 * Xie Lingyun (謝靈運) (385–433), Duke of Kangle, Jin dynasty poet
 * Empress Xie Fanjing (謝梵境), Empress of the Liu Song dynasty
 * Xie He (謝赫), Liu Song and Southern Qi writer, art historian and critic.

Politics and military

 * Frank Hsieh (謝長廷), former Kaohsiung mayor, Premier of the Republic of China, and DPP's candidate for the 2008 ROC presidency
 * Hsieh Fa-dah (謝發達) (born 1950), Vice Minister of Economic Affairs of the Republic of China (2006–2008)
 * Hsieh Shou-shing (謝曉星) (born 1950), Minister of Atomic Energy Council of the Republic of China
 * Hsieh Tung-min (謝東閔) (1908–2001), Kuomintang politician and first native of Taiwan to become Vice-President of the Republic of China (Taiwan)
 * Xie Fei (謝飛) (1913–2013), Chinese revolutionary, participant in the Long March and third wife of Liu Shaoqi
 * Xie Fuzhi (谢富治) (1909–1972), Chinese Communist Party military commander and political commissar
 * Xie Jinyuan (謝晉元), Commander of the Defense of Sihang Warehouse in the National Revolutionary Army of China during the Second Sino-Japanese War
 * You Xie (謝盛友), CSU-political leader, German journalist and author of Chinese origin
 * Xie Jianshun, Taiwanese intersex soldier
 * Helen Zia, Asian-American journalist and activist
 * Chia Yong Yong (谢邕邕), Singaporean lawyer and Member of Parliament
 * Chia Thye Poh (谢太宝), Singaporean politician and former political prisoner
 * Steve Chia (谢镜丰) (born 1970), Singaporean politician
 * Seah Kian Peng (謝健平) (born 1961), Singaporean unionist and Speaker of the Parliament of Singapore

Criminals

 * Chia Teck Leng, Singaporean white-collar criminal
 * Chia Kee Chen, Singaporean murderer

Entertainment and business

 * Xie Jin (谢晋) (1923–2008), film director
 * Tse Kwan Ho, (謝君豪) Actor of film, stage, and television
 * Xie Na, (谢娜) Host, singer, actress
 * Michael Tse (謝天華), Hong Kong actor
 * Anthony Hsieh - Founder, Chairman & CEO of LoanDepot and later Founder of mello, also founded LoansDirect.com (sold to E-Trade) and HomeLoanCenter.com (merged with LendingTree)
 * Ming Hsieh (謝明), billionaire & founder of Cogent Systems and Fulgent Genetics, namesake of University of Southern California's Ming Hsieh Department of Electrical Engineering
 * Nicholas Tse (謝霆鋒), Hong Kong based singer and actor
 * Patrick Tse (謝賢), actor, producer, screenwriter and director in Hong Kong cinema.
 * Kenneth Tse (謝德骥), classical saxophone soloist
 * Kay Tse (謝安琪), Hong Kong singer
 * Xie Shaoguang (谢韶光), Singapore television actor
 * Fiona Xie (谢宛谕), Singaporean television actress
 * Amber Chia (谢麗萍), Malaysian model
 * Beau Sia (謝福源), Chinese-American slam poet.
 * Tony Hsieh (謝家華), Zappos.com CEO
 * Timothy Tau Hsieh (謝韜), writer, filmmaker and law professor (his penname is Timothy Tau)
 * Jeffrey Cheah (謝富年), Founder and chairman of The Sunway Group of Companies in Malaysia.
 * Dhanin Chearavanont (谢国民), CEO of CP Group
 * William Soeryadjaya (謝建隆), co-founder of Astra International
 * Jeannie Hsieh, Taiwanese singer-songwriter, dancer, actress, and model
 * Janet Hsieh, Taiwanese American television host
 * Jade Seah (谢美玉) (born 1983), Singaporean model and actress
 * Nelson Chia (谢燊杰), Singaporean theater director
 * Yvonne Chia (谢姚依雯) (born 1953), Malaysian CEO
 * Eric Chia (谢英福), Malaysian businessman
 * Kimberly Chia (谢静仪), Singaporean actress
 * Michelle Chia (谢韵仪) (born 1975), Singaporean actress
 * Xie Tian (谢添), Chinese actor and director

Literature and art

 * Xie Jin (謝縉) (1369–1415), Ming dynasty landscape painter and calligrapher
 * Dr. Cheah Thien Soong, Malaysian contemporary ink-painting artist
 * Xie Jun (谢军) (born 1970), two-time Women's World Chess Champion
 * Xie Zhe-Qing (謝哲青) (born 1973), Taiwanese literature and history scholar, travel writer
 * Timothy Tau Hsieh (謝韜) - novelist, short story writer, screenwriter & filmmaker (his penname is Timothy Tau)
 * Helen Zia - author, activist, journalist & writer
 * Chris Tse (New Zealand writer) (born 1982), New Zealand poet, short story writer and editor
 * Chris Tse (Canadian poet) (born 1989), Canadian spoken-word poet, motivational speaker, and hip hop artist

Sports

 * Xie Limei (谢荔梅), Chinese triple jumper
 * Xie Siyi (谢思埸), diver from the People's Republic of China
 * Xie Xingfang (谢杏芳), badminton player from the People's Republic of China
 * Xie Zhongbo (谢中博), badminton player from the People's Republic of China
 * Cheah Soon Kit (謝順吉) (born 1968), badminton player from Malaysia. 1986 Badminton Olympic Silver medalist
 * Cheah Liek Hou, para-badminton player from Malaysia. 2020 Para-Badminton Paralympic Gold medalist.
 * Aaron Chia (謝定峰) (born 1997), badminton player from Malaysia.
 * Hsieh Chia-hsien (謝佳賢), professional baseball player from Taiwan.
 * Hsieh Su-wei, professional tennis player from Taiwan.
 * Hsieh Chia-Han (born 1988), pole vaulter from Taiwan.
 * Chia Boon Leong (谢文龙) (1925–2022), Singaporean-Chinese footballer

Religion

 * Xie Shiguang (1917–2005), Chinese Catholic bishop
 * Nicholas Chia (谢益裕), Roman Catholic Archbishop of Singapore
 * Mantak Chia (謝明德), Thai taoist master

Education

 * Shiuhpyng Shieh, National Chiao Tung University, Taiwan and Editor-in-Chief of IEEE Transactions on Reliability
 * Daniel Tse, University of Macau
 * T.H. Tse, The University of Hong Kong
 * Shieh You-hwa
 * David Tse, Stanford University
 * Shang-Ping Xie, climatologist

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Drummer :P
Hahaha! it actually says he's playing "with the great drummer" That isn't much objective, is it? :PGumdropster 17:44, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Discography
As the above comment so succinctly puts it, "Eh?" Does the comment "The same like Boom Boom" mean that those albums were reissues of the earlier album? Could someone who both speaks English and has a handle on the track listings for those albums have a go at tidying it up? Dom Kaos (talk) 14:24, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Pat Travers picture add to page
Why do you not have a picture of Pat Travers on this page please add one.

1977 - second guitarist
I think this could be Mick DycheCaptain McVitie (talk) 17:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Wrong drummer for Crash and Burn
I do not believe Micheal Shrieve was the drummer on Crash and Burn. I'm pretty sure it was Tommy Aldridge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.160.18.195 (talk) 01:23, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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Singer of Red Skies
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