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This archive page covers approximately the dates between April 2004 and September 2005.

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Again, welcome! - UtherSRG 13:18, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Yes, welcome. Appreciated your contrite comment on VfD about Googli-whatsiname, thank you and sorry about the rabbit. I actually didn't think any of your comments were inappropriate, sorry in some ways if you took mine as criticism, it wasn't meant that way. But I think the result has been good in terms of building the team to write the encyclopedia, and I tend to be goal-driven so that pleases me and I'll accept a few ruffled feathers along the way.

You've jumped right in, which is great. Hang in there, and feel free to drop me a line on my user talk page if you think I can help with anything. (How's that for a blank cheque?) Andrewa 02:35, 10 May 2004 (UTC)

Steven Brust
Definitely Hungarian, but are you sure he's Jewish? (especially given all the Christian Mythology in To Reign In Hell) - Udzu

Robert Picton
I've just changed it into a redir, that way anyone misspelling it will be redirected. Dunc_Harris|☺ 22:40, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Edit attribution
Hi. Your request for edit reattribution was rejected. Please see Changing attribution for an edit/Rejected requests. Regards  — Kate Turner | Talk 02:02, 2004 Sep 5 (UTC)

Cornholio
Though you are right that these quotes do not belong on wikipedia dont just outright delete them but rather move them to wikiquote, it probably took someone a little if not alot of work to gather those. -- Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason]   01:52, 2004 Oct 8 (UTC)

Correction
About Borzoi please read what I wrote to Sannse, it is not really true what is written now. But thanks Dan Koehl 12:54, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

How to revert
I just fixed Johann Nepomuk Huber, thanks for pointing out the vandalism. Reverting is really easy, though, so if you find something else that's been vandalized here's how to do it yourself:
 * click "page history"
 * click the link to the version of the article from immediately before the vandalism took place - the last "good" version.
 * from that version, click on the "edit this page" link. You'll be taken to an ordinary edit window with the contents of the old version in it, but with a warning at the top that you're editing an out-of-date version. In this case editing an out-of-date version is a good thing, so don't worry about the warning.
 * without making any changes to the article text, add an edit summary such as "reverting vandalism" and click on the "save page" button.

This replaces the vandalized text of the article with the pre-vandalism version. Make sure to use this power only for good and never for evil, and you're all set. :) Bryan 00:49, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Wikifun round 4
Hi, I noticed that you competed in a previous round, so I just wanted to tell you that Round 4 of the Wikifun trivia quiz is now running... -- Eugene van der Pijll 22:34, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

About Robert Baltovich
I saw you edited Robert Baltovich saying 'it turns out somebody else did it'. This is what Baltovich says and it might be true, but as far as I've read, no court has ever decided this, so I've reverted to the previous content. Saforrest 23:16, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Disambiguation
When you want to replace an article (on, say, Christopher Priest) with a disambiguation page, the usual thing is to move the article to its new location first, and then put the disambiguation page where the article used to be. --Paul A 04:37, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Comics
I notice you and Paul A cleared up the Priest/Owsley matter. Nice work -- I noticed that a while ago and was hoping somebody would get to it! Anyway, I'm here to invite you to WikiProject Comics; I imagine its purpose, etc. will be self-evident. Cheers! -leigh (φθόγγος) 07:57, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

Help
I noticed you're name on the White Base article, and if you have a talent for proofreading I could really use your help. I'm grammarically and spellogically challenged, and I need somebody good at catching grammar and spelling mistakes to eyeball the Albion page. Can you help? TomStar81 23:42, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Patent nonsense
Hello, and thank you for contributing. If you think an article is patent nonsense, add the tag to it, rather than. Thank you. Bart133 (t) 18:25, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Dear DS, about the Holy Prepuce, i left you a note in the talk page. Please consider adding the information your girlfriend has about the myths surrounding Catherine of Sienna. I think they would improve the content of the article. Cheers, muriel@pt 11:10, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Danke
Thanks for your copyedit. -- Zeitgeist 16:14, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Truelove Eyre
I have substantially cleaned up the Truelove Eyre article based on the references you found, and have removed the spurious claims. I am changing my vote to keep: can I persuade you to do the same? Thanks! GeorgeStepanek\talk  01:41, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Liberty Belle
It would be my pleasure to change my vote. Fantastic save! Thanks for letting me know. - Lucky 6.9 22:05, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for giving that article a significant makeover. I just changed my vote. Zzyzx11 | Talk 22:13, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

article Hariram
Hello, I saw your comments on the article. I had created the article when I was very new to wikipedia and was not aware of so many things. I suggest that you may please initiate VfD for this article. May be I will also vote for Deletion. You are right perhaps. Bye. --Bhadani 04:20, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi, it is nice to hear from you. When I created the article, I was very new to wikipedia at that time, even not aware of so many things. He was my father and all facts stated are true, but at least that article gave me a friend like you. Plz remain in touch.--Bhadani 17:41, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Trines
I have noted your comments about a grand trine being interpreted as a flaw in the judicial system. The article is not intended to be political. Because astrology is for the most part poo poo ed in the west, I really don't think that the court's are employing astrologers to look at people's charts and throw people in jail just because they have a grand trine or any other aspect for that matter. The comment about the grand trine was meant to point out the fact that although trines are supposed to be really good, there are some instances when they are not so good because they cause people to not want to apply themselves, and they subsequently fall foul of the law.

I have had the misfortune of having some really nasty emails sent to me just because I have made a mistake, so I am trying to be fair. Are you an astrologer? What qualifications do you have to make a statement such as grand trines indicate flaws in the judicial system? If you have studied astrology or the judical system, and more specifically the impact that astrology has on the judical system then perhaps you are right in making such a post.

My point is that astrology is not a game and it is not something that people can make a mockery of. Editing an article is one thing, as I read from your bio that you are really into editing, but you should not change the context of the article just becuase you want to make it flarier. Because of the sentence you put in, you are close to making it seem like astrologers are a bunch of kooks who thinks that grand trines are related to injustices in the judicial system.

Do you have a special interest in injustice in the judicial system? Do you know someone who has been hard done by and you want to bring to light his plight?

The article is about astrology. It is not about flaws in the judicial system.

I have made a slight modification to your statement, but I would ask that you seriously think about your statement. Do you think that a statement about the judicial system is appropriate in the article? Do you really think that a link to flaws in the judical system is appropriate to that article?

As an alternative, you might want to find a person who has been a victim of a miscarriage of justice and then do an astrological profile on that person. I think that would be more appropriate for inclusion in another article.

It is really easy to edit. It is much more difficult to come up with original, creative work.

Regards, --TracyRenee 17:32, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Munchies
Any idea if the Munchies you mentioned could have been a tie-in with the movie? Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy)  00:49, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Template:Clear soup
FYI: For template creation Template:Clear soup has been nominated for deletion at Templates for deletion. Blank Verse  ∅  04:19, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Sodium aluminum sulfate formula
Thanks for that. I figured as much. I'm no scientist, but I know a bare bones article when I see one. :) -- Longhair | Talk 15:08, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Nardwuar
Nice additions to the NTHS page... I was surprised how fleshed out it was already, too. I'm thinking of migrating a list of interview subjects from the main site, and getting Nardwuar to fill in the blanks. -- Xinit 17:59, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re: kitty cannon
Thanks. Sorry I marked the wrong site - I did a quick google search and only came up with that one. I will look more carefully at the article next time :-) Will => talk 1 July 2005 13:46 (UTC)

Head of Femur
hey, thanks for adding all that to the Head of Femur page! Awiseman 7 July 2005 18:03 (UTC)

Xinjiao
I'd rather wait until the vfd has run its course and the current article is deleted - no need to keep the advert in the edit history. I'll gladly do the move myself, once the old article is gone, but it would be just as easy for whoever closes the VfD to move my stub as it would be for them to drop a note asking me to do it. -- BD2412 talk 18:15, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Electric Universe VfD
Double-checked to make sure, and I did vote, as follows: "Delete per Splash. Additionally, the article doesn't really explain the theory, so much as reference outside sources for it. Xoloz 08:33, 10 July 2005 (UTC)" My opinion, generally, is that the article is poo. The theory is probably also poo, but, in any case, the article has a heavy burden of persuasion to bear, and it fails that badly. I'm sorry about Galileo -- defending him (and Darwin too) is essentially an unavoidable reflex for me. :) Xoloz 21:51, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

where you been, man?
hi! i hvnt heard from you in ages... where you been?

some of us get worried at times, ... (specially me) Gabrielsimon 05:34, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Normally, the temp. is placed on the user_talk page of the creator, not the page, I think? See Tjnorris. I could be wrong, but doesn't it make more sence there? I'll nominate the article for speedy, since it's vanity under the new CSD criterion. humblefool®Have you voted in the CSD poll yet? 18:15, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Detective Chimp
I've undeleted; you can check it out at Detective Chimp. -- Essjay ·  Talk 01:13, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

Do me a favor
Judging what a consensus is with vfds is very difficult. Just because someone is voting anonomously does not mean that they are a sockpuppet. My decision was that it was not a consensus. I stand by it. Even if some of those votes were by sockpuppets, I'm still not sure that it was a consensus. 65/70% isn't necessarily a consensus in my book. I'm sorry that you disagree with my decision, but since it is probably going to end up as a delete and redirect anyway, I'm not sure what the issue is here. I was essentially told that once a vfd closes, it's anything goes if the vote was for consensus. So I have no say in the matter. --Woohookitty 04:29, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

check ther IP adresses to see if they are identical then. Gabrielsimon 04:35, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Maytag
Just wanted to say thanks for starting the cleanup on the Maytag Corporation article. What an overwhelming chore. :) Adm58 12:53, July 23, 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Metastability in molecules
Hi DS, your reply on Talk:Metastability in molecules just happened to be the fastest response on a question of mine I ever put on a talk page here on Wikipedia (typically taking ~8 months) - thank you very much for that! Your example is straightforward, and with the information about thermodynamics the conecpt of metastability just got clear to me. Are you interested into completing the article with your piece of information?

Bye, Abdull 12:59, 24 July 2005 (UTC) who just faces an extreme buffer overflow due to Google Earth

oops
im still sorry i missed your borthday Gabrielsimon 00:21, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the compliments. Ok, impressive (?) - I am not sure, but everything is due to the support and encouragement of the wiki-community. We all are here to build to great encyclopedia. --Bhadani 02:06, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

timeing
come speak if time has not saped your daily streangth. Gabrielsimon 02:36, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Teonaht
I think you may have cut back the stuff I wrote about Teonaht a bit too much - there's no remaining information on the background of the language, and it's basically just been reduced to a link page. Would you consider reinstating a bit, so that the article is a bit more useful? I'd like it to give the casual reader some reason why they would want to follow the link. For the record, I'm a conlanger, and know Sally Caves a bit through mailing lists. I think that Teonaht (which Sally has been working on for many years) is an impressive body of work. My own work has not been mentioned anywhere on wikipedia, but I'd be immensely flattered if anyone thought it worth the effort to do so. If you wish to contact me privately, my email address is (Full form of my first name).(my surname)(at)rd.bbc.co.uk

Pete Bleackley

Red link recovery / repeated letters / 4
Can't we just close the subpage 4 and be done with it? I couldn't find anything with Google as to who 13335 Tobiaswolf is named after, but if it's left open, it will prevent the project from completing. Can't we just make an educated guess that whoever named the asteroid spelled the dude's name correctly? — J I P | Talk 12:15, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Thx
for your edits on Polish scouting articles - until now, the most are only stubs, but the biographies of this young girls and boys are very interesting.--Witkacy 21:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

might need your evil eye, dude... pelase examine the first in a long line of articles. http://www.gabrielsimon.com/content/view/40/30/ Gabrielsimon 21:48, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

The God Who Wasn't There VFD
You know, I really resent your attempt to dump the blame for the sockpuppets' anger onto me for the crime of making an absolutely bog-standard nomination to VfD. By any reasonable criteria, the article is VfD-worthy, and you could have stated it that way or some other neutral way instead of helping feed their paranoia and fanaticism. --Calton | Talk 08:47, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Strange things have been happening with the God who Wasn't There page. Sometimes I get confused as to who is doing what. There were a lot of strange edits to the discussion on the VfD page and someone edited my entry as well as several others. The logs made it look like you did it, but now the history logs are changed, which confuses me. Clearly there is an effort by people to block this. Taking a deep breath - striving for self control. --Marcperkel 20:07, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

 * My apologies for anything I've confused. I ended up moving a lot of votes around when I underwent the effort to note the anonymous and sockpuppet users. I didn't alter any of the votes in doing so, but may have made the history a bit difficult to follow. --Blu Aardvark | (talk) 13:26, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Just a note: Wikipedia isn't in the public domain, as you stated on the vfd page, but in fact under the GFDL. Yelyos 13:23, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

You are a caring person
I really thank you for your suggestion; it never occurred to me that that was a possibility. If that can be done, I would be grateful. Even otherwise, I place on record my utmost appreciation for your care. --Bhadani 14:55, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * ok, I thank you, and I could not thank you earlier as i was engaged in "inking" several redlines in Chennai. Bye now friend. --Bhadani 17:46, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Blackstronauts
Sorry it took so long for me to reply! The reason why it caused some hubbub in my circle is because no one here had watched Dave Chapelle. :) Happy Wiki! --Benn M. 03:57, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Kidron
No problem - happens to everyone, from time to time! -- BD2412 talk 02:38, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
 * As for the picture sources, Google image search works surprisingly well for this sort of thing. --Alan Au 18:58, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

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============================= Why the heck do you guys keep trying to delete the CartooNOVEL page?

There is a bonafide media source and is a valid addition to Wikipedia. The newspaper this article was published in is the 2nd largest English daily in Malaysia and serves 429,000 readers a month, google it and see. So now close to half a million people have been exposed to the term CartooNOVEL. I am simply documenting a historical fact.

You guys keep messing up the page layout as well, please have some consideration for the work of others.

Thx, PRpoet

Tonywalton
Thanks for the userpage, DS. I knew there was something I meant to do! Re that Cartoon novel stuff, BTW, it would help if he'd argue for it in the VfD space rather than simply rv-ing it...

Please examine
the article SAM2 broadcaster which i created, anmd tell me what you think. thanksGavin the Chosen 14:56, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh, nad your steering wheel, preferbly.Gavin the Chosen 19:05, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Ancestry
I was quite careful with my phrasing in my edits to the Otherkin article - I do acknowledge your efforts to have this be as NPOV as possible. However, you will note that, by using the active mode rather than passive ("they trace their ancestries" rather than "their ancestries can be traced"), the validity of these genealogies is neither supported nor refuted. "They trace", rather than "they CAN trace", you see? DS 17:29, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The word "trace" isn't at all the same as "claim" -- "trace" implies that they can follow the trail of ancestors step by step to an actual nonhuman one. Trace is active and implies reality. If it's not real then trace wouldn't work, so by saying trace you were saying it is real. That's highly POV, which is why it was removed by myself and another editor (after Gabriel/Gavin blind reverted it). DreamGuy 02:33, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
I Thank you for your recent message. I have corrected my mistake. --Bhadani 13:26, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You are perfectly right about Bhadani, and I would request you, as and when you find time, please refine my edits. Thanks [[Image:WikiThanks.png]]. --Bhadani 13:41, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Re : Abby Hayes
Hi DragonflySixtyseven,

The article in question was originally tagged for speedy deletion, but I decided to list it for VFD because I thought it was doubtful that it falls under the criteria for speedy deletion. (that's the purpose of VFD isn't it? :) ).

I do admit that I only just briefly read the article. Looking at the VFD process for Abby Hayes I think it should be a rather solid keep by now, so I think there's no need for any further action (just wait for the lag time to run out in approx. a week). I didn't cast a vote, so there's no vote for me to change anyway. (Most nominators including me state reasons but don't cast a vote).

If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask on my talkpage.

- Best regards, Mailer Diablo 13:45, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Laurell K. Hamilton article OK
Hi! Thanks for your note on my user page. Not sure what you thought was changed that I'd added? Maybe you meant edits by User:Nezu Chiza? Doesn't matter, article looks fine. Thank you for your contribution! :) -- Sitearm | Talk 19:44, 2005 August 23 (UTC)

Residential Schools
Remember to mark your edits as minor only when they genuinely are (see Minor edit). "The rule of thumb is that an edit of a page that is spelling corrections, formatting, and minor rearranging of text should be flagged as a 'minor edit'." Also remember that you can make use of mergeto when you find a duplicate article with unique content. — Laura Scudder | Talk 21:03, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Vesara
hi, I will surely add something, and thanks for the idea. --Bhadani 13:36, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Minnal
hello, I received your message about Minnal and looking into it. --Bhadani 14:44, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

The wall
Yes you are right, I donot have any idea about the wall as stated in Sardul Singh Caveeshar. But, I shall try to go "deep" and not "hide" behind the wall. In case, I find something, I will surely come back. And, your work is really nice. --Bhadani 16:42, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Wonderful, I could lay hands on some information . The wall belonged to Gurudwara Rikabgunj, an important and historical shrine of the Sikhs. When some portions of New Delhi was being rebuit during the British Raj, it seems a portion of the wall of that Gurudwara was demolished, which must have created all the unrest. --Bhadani 16:49, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Exclusive Interview with Mister Dressup
Well, the parody may not be notable for the band, if they do a lot of that. So, feel free to delete it. But, I really, don't see value added, to going to each of this band's subject's and putting a note about such a song, when it had no known impact on the subject. Somebody reading about a band, may wish to know what songs they've song. But, I doubt somebody reading Mr. Dressup cares about the band and definately not sample lyrics. I think these kinds of mentions set a bad precident, since any band, no matter how small, can get a mention on some famous person or show's article, just by a mention of them. It sounds like the Beachcombers and Gilligan's island are the next articles to be effected by this. Now, if a hugely famous bands mention of a show, is the most common reason the public-at-large knows of a show, than that would be worth a mention (on both articles). Sometimes songs make things famous. But, this isn't such a case. I'm sure Mr. Dressup inspired lots of minor singers and entertainers, to do and say lots of things, but they don't all deserve mention. Plus, you seem to admit this was no big deal for the band, so it was certainly no big deal for Mr. Dressup. --rob 17:43, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

 * The wording I removed didn't say anything about a tribute, which seems like the *only* basis for mentioning it. The words "have you ever killed a man" didn't make me think of a "tribute".  I suggest putting this on the Mr Dressup talk page, and seeing if anybody else heard of this, and thinks it signficant to Mr. Dressup.  If anybody (just one) person agrees with you, I'll respect that, and not delete it again (maybe reword a bit, but not delete); despite the bad taste of lyrics and their placement.  --rob 19:57, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Hello Drag Fly
Hi, DF: I was just referred to an article on Einar H. Kvaran which, to my inexperienced eye, appeared to have been more or less eviscerated by you. I have made a few changes to the original piece while attempting to retain it's content. What do you think? Carptrash 21:05, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Hello Dragon Fly
Hi, DF: I was just referred to an article on Einar H. Kvaran which, to my inexperienced eye, appeared to have been more or less eviscerated by you. I have made a few changes to the original piece while attempting to retain it's content. What do you think? Carptrash 21:06, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the double posting. My computer told me that neither went through.  It's been that sort of a day. Carptrash 21:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * So, Ms. 67: I am wondering if you have read any of the Icelandic Sagas recently?  If you had you might have realized that "all the details of the family tree"  [or however you put it] are an important component of virtually all of them.  If you'd like to put this issue to a vote of all the Icelanders on wikipedia that would be fine with me.  It has taken me a long time to convince a particular Icelandic octogenarian who possesses a wealth of knowledge in all sorts of areas to contribute here.  First I had to prove to him that wikipedia was a place for serious scholars and not just a place frequented by cranks and teenage vandals.  Eventually, over about a year that was accomplished.  Now I am having to start all over again because someone [not a teenage vandal, or a crank either, I suspect] wants to  . . . . . . . . ....... to what?  I mean, the entry has Canadian content and everything.  Carptrash 02:38, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Good a.m., Dragonfly Sixty Seven. Sorry about the gender thing.  Also, I frequently take liberties with other folks labels and am occasionally found in drag myself so it was not intended as an insult.  Thanks for the oversight that you do in checking out new articles.  I probably could imagine what some of them might be like, but would rather not. I do hope that should a relative or two reappear in the Einar H. Kvaran piece that you might find it in your heart to approach it in the spirit of a cross-cultural experience.  Life is supposed to be fun, and so is wikipedia. Carptrash 14:34, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/JDizzle Comics
Hello, you voted on this VfD which I had accidentlally pasted Gillian Slovo instead of JDizzle Comics. I cleared all votes in order to remove any bias because of my stupidity so please vote again knowing that it is about JDizzle Comics. Sorry and thanks. gren グレン 21:31, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Fluxon: thanks!
Er, thanks for the sp correction! zowie 00:17, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

VFD: Julian Thorne
Consider it gone. :) R ADICAL B ENDER ★  16:27, September 9, 2005 (UTC)

More on EHK
I have been off line a lot recently - both to wikipedia and to the octo - but will look around. One thing about 80 year olds is that they move at their own pace, so it's hard to say what will happen next. However I will make sure that he is aware of your note, which I am guessing is in the EHK discussion page. Thanks DF67. Carptrash 17:12, 9 September 2005 (UTC).

Animality
Well, it was nonsense as originally written. Adding a little clue that this was a games thing made it not so :-) Thanks for the cleanup. Tonywalton  | Talk

Turnips
I've speedied the page as an attack and the images as utterly useless and part of an attack page. Not strictly within the CSDs for images, but I'll cite a little WP:IAR in my defence if it comes to it. Watch the page and the images for recreations and buzz me if they need protecting against recreation or something. The things people will do! -Splash 18:05, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Beaches of Penwith
Hi DF,

Thanks for your message about the "Beaches of Penwith" category. It is my intention to complete the pages with text as well as photos. I will be adding text as soon as I can. It seems a little hasty to speedy delete the pages. Is there some kind of "under construction" tag, or "this article needs expanding" that I can use, possibly also a way to leave a comment as to my plans?? What do you suggest?

Cheers

Tom --84.92.138.170 18:17, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

I've started to add stub text to the pages. When I get a chance I'll add a stack more text to the pages. It just takes me a long time to write... --84.92.138.170 09:22, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

re: Objectionable Usernames
Yes, I think you are a little too paranoid (I wonder if he is related to Helen Hunt... oh never mind...) Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:43, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Creating other peoples user pages
Please don't do this. A user page is (within loose limits) a users own domain, and they have a right not to have one. By creating peoples user pages, you are denying them this right. --Kiand 15:41, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Vitamin
The term I used was merely to signify that it was a photogenic chemical derived from the "irridated" form, Ultraviolet irridation if I remember correctly. At any rate, it would probably be better to have a more descriptive name than just "irridated 7-dehydrositosterol", but I do not know the biochemistry enough to find a name for the chemical and I have long forgotten the original link I used.

-- EmperorBMA|話す 06:20, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Hello, back
Not sure how you do everything here yet, but yes I am one of the people from Byrne Robotics, but all I want is a fair shake; if you'll notice, I didn't remove the returned expanded biography (and didn't edit it, although I did call for the same.) Nothing to fear from me. LightningMan 04:02, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Stepanakert
Bold is fine, but if you'd checked the talk page, you'd have seen that the clear consensus was to merge under Stepanakert as that is the name used by the current controlling power. The main thing that kept me from doing so myself earlier was the lack of a map showing things from the Armenian POV instead of the Azeri. Since the merge has been done, I rewrote the article to be Stepanakert centric and reset the redirects to point there instead

Triangle
I believe in that case I was referring to the fact that the article's most compelling or notable data was buried in the end, instead of in the opening line. My remark was a reference to a newspaper practice of placing a story's most weighty or remarkable feature in the first line, and in each successive line, including other data in order of what is most compelling. This creates the effect of an upside=down triangle -- with the smallest point at the bottom, and the weightiest part of the triangle at the top. paul klenk 20:20, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Trimethylaluminum
Can you please provide a reference/link that gives the proper structure of trimethylaluminum (other than the diborane ref)? You claim that it has 2 Al, but a google search for the CAS number gives a compound with only one. If you're right please give the proper CAS number as well, otherwise I'll restore the data you changed. You could also be a bit more careful when editing tables: the infobox was left with three columns after your edit. Thanks. -- Rune Welsh ταλκ 09:13, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your edit, I like the new version more actually. Just keep in mind the fact that if a molecule forms a dimer that does not make it a different molecule, because the dimer is only held by intermolecular forces, as opposed to covalent bonds. Regards. -- Rune Welsh ταλκ 16:45, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Bithoor
hi, I am sorry for responding to your message so late - actually, I wanted to expand the article a bit on that date - but, could not find time. Meanwhile, I found someone has place a lot of materials, almost word-by-word from links which I have indicated in the talk page of the article. I am trying to re-word. Thanks for your interest. I am sure this place still exists - and, you know mythology is after all mythology. Have a nice time. --Bhadani 16:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

User:202.65.191.134
Hi, I had this user on my watchlist, and I saw that you decided to warn him about advertising on Wikipedia. It turns out that after further review, this user has been cutting and pasting his articles. Just wanted to let you know. ErikNY 18:56, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the User Page
Thanks for welcoming me to Wikipedia and creating a User Page for me. I'm glad you find my pages about Guam useful. Please give me any tips to help me with editing and creating articles.

Onionhound 22:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Trends
Sorry ;-). Thought you were starting a new trend!  Normally, I would always post to the talk page.  Have a great day! >:  Roby Wayne  Talk •  Hist 17:04, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Round Robin
Replied here. --Blackcap | talk 01:32, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

P.S. You might consider archiving this page, it's getting onto the long side. Just a thought. --Blackcap | talk 01:32, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

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User:Figaro/personal pages

Personal section

Other personal pages are:

For my non-professional interests, see:
 * User:Figaro/Interests and hobbies

Other pages include:

 * User:Figaro/info
 * User:Figaro/pics
 * User:Figaro/Articles of interest
 * User:Figaro/Extras
 * User:Figaro/Personal notes

The current time and date is:

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User talk:Frederik vandaele

Welcome
Welcome to Wikipedia , I hope you will like it here and decide to stay.

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Also: To sign comments on talk pages, simply type four tildes, like this: ~~~~. This will automatically add your username and the time after your comments. Signing with three tildes ~~~ will just sign your username. I hope to see you around Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page!

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Category:Airports in Iceland

This category is for airports in Iceland.

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BECU

BECU is an American credit union based in Tukwila, Washington, in the Seattle metropolitan area. It was named the Boeing Employees' Credit Union for much of its history and originally served employees of The Boeing Company. Membership was later expanded to all residents of Washington and some counties in Oregon and Idaho. , the credit union has 60 locations—primarily in the Puget Sound region of Western Washington—and 1.4 million members.

The Fellowship Credit Union was established in 1935 by 18 Boeing employees. Originally, BECU was only open to past and present employees of the Boeing Company, its subsidiaries or affiliates, BECU itself, and the Museum of Flight. In 2002, membership was opened to those who live, work, or go to school in Washington state or certain Oregon or Idaho counties. As of December 2021, BECU had over $30.2 billion in assets and over 1.3 million members as of December 2021, making it the largest credit union in Washington and fourth largest in the United States. Beverly Anderson is the current President and CEO.

On November 2, 2017, BECU changed its logo, replacing the 'cursive E' logo that had been used by the organization since the late 1980s, with a sans-serif logo.

Locations
BECU has over 60 locations throughout the Puget Sound region, three locations in Spokane, and two branches in North Charleston, South Carolina.

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Articles for Deletion debate
This article was redirected to Gabriel Knight as a result of an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. -Splash talk 23:39, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Golioder

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Port of Prince Rupert

The Port of Prince Rupert is a seaport managed by the Prince Rupert Port Authority that occupies 667,731 ha of land and water along 20 km of waterfront. The port is located in Prince Rupert Harbour in the North Coast Regional District of British Columbia.

The Port of Prince Rupert is the third busiest seaport in Canada by container volume and cargo tonnage after the Port of Vancouver and Port of Montreal.

Early 20th century
The Port of Prince Rupert was built upon the completion of the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway in 1914 and its development had been promoted by Grand Trunk Railway president Charles Melville Hays as an alternative to the Port of Vancouver, which was serviced by the Canadian Pacific and Canadian Northern railways. In 1919, the Grand Trunk Pacific fell into bankruptcy and was nationalized by the federal government and merged into the Canadian National Railways (CNR).

The port was expanded during World War II to support Canadian and United States military action in the Pacific Theatre, notably in the Alaska Territory.

Late 20th century
In 1975, the federal government declared the Port of Prince Rupert a "National Harbour", followed by several years of construction of various facilities such as the Fairview Terminal and Ridley Terminals. A 1989 expansion of the Fairview Terminal added a third berth and 6.5 ha of storage area. In 1989, 1,705 total vessels, including 468 deep sea vessels, with 11,332,000 tonnes of cargo move through the port.

Since 1982 Aquatrain barge carries rail cargo between Prince Rupert and Whittier, Alaska.

Conversion to an intermodal terminal
In April 2005, it was announced that the Fairview Terminal would be converted into an intermodal container shipping terminal, given Prince Rupert's advantages of having a location along the Pacific Great Circle Route between Asia and the west coast of North America; which makes it the first inbound and last outbound port of call, as well as having the deepest natural harbour depths on the continent. Because the port at Prince Rupert is closer to Asia on the Pacific Great Circle route, and with the city of Prince Rupert having less municipal congestion than other West Coast ports, additional rail infrastructure investments toward Canada's heartland should cut time from East Asian markets to North American destinations. Sea travel time to the West Coast, time in processing the containers in port, and the time in getting products to the Midwestern United States would be more efficient. The overall time from ports like Busan, Hong Kong, Kaohsiung, Shanghai, and Singapore in Asia and to eventual Midwest destinations like, Chicago, Detroit, Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and St. Louis, should see time and cost reductions.

On September 12, 2007, phase 1 the Fairview Terminal opened for business and received its first container ship (from COSCO) in October. Phase 1 has an annual container-handling capacity of only 500,000 TEUs. However Phase 2, planned to be completed late in 2010, will increase the Port of Prince Rupert's capacity to 2 million TEUs, and to 4 million TEUs by 2015, and there is extensive capacity for further expansion. This will provide much-needed relief to the congested west-coast ports of North America. The containerization of the Fairview Terminal is an important part of the Asia–Pacific Gateway and Corridor Initiative of the Government of Canada and the Pacific Gateway strategy of the Province of British Columbia.

The second phase expansion has been protested by some First Nations groups, saying that the PRPA failed to consult them. Another group in Delta is lobbying for the expansion of the Prince Rupert port in order that the port at Delta will not be expanded.

On January 23, 2013, federal Environment Minister Peter Kent approved the environmental assessment of the Phase 2 expansion of the terminal. However, there was no set time frame for the construction of Phase 2, as the decision is up to Maher Terminals to proceed. It was noted that the need for expansion does not yet exist as through operation efficiencies achieved by the design of the terminal and the workforce, the actual capacity of the terminal (750,000 TEUs) exceeds current demand.

In January 2015 there was a trade dispute when the State of Alaska had solicited for bids for a ferry terminal update. The project was seeking U.S. Federal funds which required that the project comply with the Buy America provision. The Canadian Government blocked the project and the state of Alaska canceled bids because a temporary solution could not be reached.

Governance
The Prince Rupert Port Authority was created on May 1, 1999 and succeeds the Prince Rupert Port Corporation (PRPC). Prince Rupert was among 8 national ports in Canada which implemented this administrative change on this date, as required by the Canada Marine Act which passed on June 11, 1998. PRPC was the successor to the National Harbours Board, which previously operated all federally owned ports in Canada.

PRPA reports to the Minister of Transport and has a Board of Directors typically consisting of local business and community figures. In the past, the appointment process to the boards of Canada's port authorities has been criticized as they have frequently been used for political patronage.

Facilities
PRPA port facilities include:
 * Atlin Terminal
 * Northlands Cruise Terminal
 * Lightening Dock
 * Ocean Dock
 * Pinnacle Pellet Terminal
 * Fairview Terminal
 * Prince Rupert Grain
 * Trigon Pacific Terminals (formerly Ridley Terminals)
 * Westview Wood Pellet Terminal

All PRPA facilities are serviced by CN Rail.

With the completion of Phase 2, the port has a capacity of 2,000 kTEUs. For comparison, the Port of Vancouver handles 2,500 kTEUs of cargo.

Pacific Port Volumes
Cargo handled expressed in the number of 20-foot-equivalent units (TEUs) and million metric tonnes (MMT). Statistics for American ports are excluded, because of inconsistencies among various web pages. The major differences may be due to the inclusion of empty containers shipped.

Funding for Container Terminal
The Canadian $170 million terminal project, with a design capacity of 500,000 TEUs (20-foot equivalent units) has been funded by five partners:
 * Maher Terminals, $60 million, including the three super-post panamax cranes
 * Government of Canada: Western Economic Diversification Canada, $30 million
 * Province of British Columbia, $30 million
 * CN Rail, $25 million towards the terminal's rail-related infrastructure
 * Prince Rupert Port Authority, $25 million

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User:Flcelloguy/Signpost/ArbCom Responses

Questions
1. Are up for re-election this year? 2. If so, do you plan to run for re-election? 3. How do you feel about serving on the ArbCom? 4. What do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom? 5. Weaknesses? 6. If you could change anything, what would you change? Why? 7. Do you regret accepting your position? Why or why not? 8. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why? 9. Do you think your job is easy? Hard? Explain. 10. Looking in retrospective, is there anything you would have done differently? 11. Do you feel that the ArbCom is appreciated by the community? If not, how do you think that could be changed? 12. What is the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable?

Questions for Kelly Martin and Mindspillage
1. Do you plan to run for re-election this year? Why or why not? 2. How do you feel about being appointed to serve on the ArbCom? 3. Right now, what do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom? 4. Weaknesses? 5. If you could change anything, what would you change? Why? 6. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why? 7. Do you think your job will be easy? Hard? Explain. 8. Do you feel that the ArbCom is appreciated by the community? If not, how do you think that could be changed? 9. What do you think will be the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable? 10. Any other thoughts regarding your appoinment?

Kelly Martin
My comments will be necessarily somewhat limited.

''1. Do you plan to run for re- election this year? Why or why not? ''
 * I haven't made a final decision on whether or not to stand in this year's elections. That decision will not be made until I've had a chance to actually serve on the committee for a while.  My bias is to stand for election, though; I've had too many people encourage me to run that I can't not seriously consider it.

''2. How do you feel about being appointed to serve on the ArbCom? ''
 * A bit overwhelmed, and very humbled. I spent an hour and a half today reviewing evidence and arguments in order to make the decision whether or not to accept a pair of clearly related cases.  The amount of material to be reviewed in some cases is outrageous, and we are obliged to review all of it before making any lasting decisions.

''3. Right now, what do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom?  4. Weaknesses?  5. If you could change anything, what would you change? Why? ''
 * I can't fairly comment on these. I know I've made several public comments about ArbCom and many suggestions on reform, but even in the short time I've been a member I've realized that some of my prior perceptions were underinformed.  Reform discussions continue, both in public and in private, but I haven't come to any conclusion what the best thing to do at the moment is.

''6. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why? ''
 * "ARE YOU INSANE?" Seriously, ArbCom is a three year commitment to a terribly nasty, difficult, and timeconsuming job.  Please please please consider if you're willing to commit to spend 10 hours a week for the next three years on this.  That goes especially for those of you whose lives are not yet settled (i.e. in school): three years is a LONG time.  Don't just run for the prestige of it; being on ArbCom totally changes the way you relate to the rest of the community.

''7. Do you think your job will be easy? Hard? Explain. ''
 * Definitely it will be a hard job. One of the biggest problems it that it's a lot harder to tell if someone is lying to you in text; you can't see body language, hesitation, facial expression, etc.  We have to decide cases based on examining reams of text dumped on us (usually with no organization and little rational explanation), and that's really not easy at all.

''8. Do you feel that the ArbCom is appreciated by the community? If not, how do you think that could be changed? ''
 * I think too many people treat the ArbCom as an annoyance, to be used only when another annoyance is causing trouble. ArbCom is not your mother.

''9. What do you think will be the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable? ''
 * The most frustrating thing is not commenting on, or being involved in, cases or issues that are before us or likely to soon be before us. I used to be an informal mediator, something which I really can't do anymore since any case I mediate has a good chance to appear before the ArbCom later.  And I have, for some time now, been active in policy discussions and community management activities.  I've had to curtail much of that as a result of my appointment.  A lot of my friends are mediators, and my appointment puts an unavoidable distance between them and me.  I'm not sure what I enjoy about this, except the opportunity to help make Wikipedia better.  Gee, you're starting to convince me not to run now....

''10. Any other thoughts regarding your appoinment? ''
 * I would like to ask people who bring requests before the Committee to please respect our 500 word pleading limit, and when submitting their evidence to please explain what the evidence link they're presenting is supposed to prove. Lay the case out for us; don't make us find it buried in a haystack of uncaptioned diffs.

Feel free to bother me if you need anything else. Kelly Martin 19:14, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Mindspillage
Greetings, and no problem with the rush; contrary to appearances I do get away from Wikipedia occasionally. :-) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 05:52, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

1. Do you plan to run for re-election this year? Why or why not?
 * I'm not sure yet; I'm going to see how the next few weeks go. I wasn't previously planning to run but the experience may change my mind.

2. How do you feel about being appointed to serve on the ArbCom?
 * It's an honor, of course, but one I tried at first to run screaming away from! :-) Nervous, largely; there are a lot of things to get used to and it's a somewhat high-profile position to make newbie mistakes in. And honored that several people have made known they trust me to do it well.

3. Right now, what do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom?
 * Its main strength is that for the most part the arbcom is made up of users who are trusted by the community and who have a thorough knowledge of community policies and practices. The several differing points of view represented on the current committee I think helps to find a more fair solution.

4. Weaknesses?
 * The obvious weakness is that it is a slow process, hindered by the fact that several members have been inactive: though even at its best it will never be fast. It's also a dirty enough and time-consuming enough job than many qualified people burn out or avoid running at all.

5. If you could change anything, what would you change? Why?
 * It's really too soon for me to say. Actually, I think members' advocates doing more constructive work and being more fully integrated with the arbitration process would be helpful; sifting through evidence pages is in some cases pretty torturous and would be improved by having a competent person on each side presenting a case.

6. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why?
 * Please consider whether or not you have the time and the temperament for this, and whether you'll still be up for it after the first few months have passed. ("Are you nuts?" is probably also good but not so helpful. :-))

7. Do you think your job will be easy? Hard? Explain.
 * Hard, mostly. Not only sorting through the evidence presented, by no means easy, but also the knowledge that a bad call has a strong effect on the community, and the knowledge that my decisions here are going to affect my relationships with other users. I've also never been a party to an arbitration case (tried to stay far away from it), so learning the process is the first hurdle.

8. Do you feel that the ArbCom is appreciated by the community? If not, how do you think that could be changed?
 * For the most part, yes, as much as it is complained about; it's a dirty job. The AC exists because the community cannot always come to a consensus itself, and must refer the problem somewhere else.

9. What do you think will be the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable?
 * Also too soon to say. Most frustrating I think will be having to restrict what I say about ongoing cases, having to deal with users who think I've treated them unfairly, and spending time reading evidence instead of writing. Most enjoyable I expect to be having some influence in the way the decisions are made, and helping to see that something I think is an acceptable solution is done.

10. Any other thoughts regarding your appointment?
 * Not that I can think of at the moment!

Fred Bauder
1. Are up for re-election this year?
 * Yes

2. If so, do you plan to run for re-election?
 * Yes

3. How do you feel about serving on the ArbCom?
 * Honored, responsible and burdened.

4. What do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom?
 * Community participation, experiences and common sense.

5. Weaknesses?
 * The work is hard and time consuming for a volunteer job.

6. If you could change anything, what would you change? Why?
 * I encourage acceptance of cases involving content disputes. There needs to be some resolution of questions which involve sustained edit warring about fixed positions.

7. Do you regret accepting your position? Why or why not?
 * No, this is chance to significantly contribute to a worthwhile project. Other work has suffered, but I think I have filled a need.

8. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why?
 * Be prepared for hard work and occasional second guessing.

9. Do you think your job is easy? Hard? Explain.
 * Done well, the work is quite hard, due to the complexity of the evidence considered and the time burden in viewing it, When a matter is hotly disputed either among us or within the community it can be emotionally upsetting.

10. Looking in retrospective, is there anything you would have done differently?
 * I have sometimes slacked off for a period.

11. Do you feel that the ArbCom is appreciated by the community? If not, how do you think that could be changed?
 * Yes, although the community sometimes ascribes more ability, time and wisdom to us than we actually enjoy.

 * 1) What is the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable?
 * Failure of other arbitrators to have the time and energy to provide enough input is frustrating as is reluctance to propose alternatives when they oppose something. The most enjoyable is sometimes figuring out what is causing a difficulty.

The Epopt
1. Are up for re-election this year?
 * No.

2. If so, do you plan to run for re-election?
 * If I were up for re-election, I probably would not run — I don't think judges should be chosen by popularity; I'm certainly not on the ArbComm to make friends. Also, I'm not sure this job is worth going through the Hell that was last year's election.

3. How do you feel about serving on the ArbCom?
 * Tired.

4. What do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom?
 * We have been given something close to carte blanche to build our own jurisprudence — we are not bound by any procedure or precedent that we have not chosen ourselves. This freedom has allowed us to design a process specifically tailored to our mission of protecting Wikipedia without being distracted by noble but irrelevant concerns.

5. Weaknesses?
 * Sloth — it is an unpleasant, thankless task that is easy to put off; alas, this means that cases take several months to resolve.

6. If you could change anything, what would you change? Why?
 * I would dramatically increase the number of arbiters, so that when half of them get tired and disappear, the Committee isn't paralyzed by lack of quorum. Of course, finding that large number of arbiters is much easier to type than to do.

7. Do you regret accepting your position? Why or why not?
 * No, this is a necessary job, and one that could easily go astray. I'm glad to have had the opportunity to get it started in the right direction.

8. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why?
 * You're full of fire and ready to make a difference now, but will you still be so determined in six months? Don't sign up unless you're prepared to go the distance.  Arbitrating is not a sprint, it's a marathon, through the mud, and there's no glory in it even if you do finish.

9. Do you think your job is easy? Hard? Explain.
 * Both, of course. It is hard to make sense of the mountains of argumentation we're given as evidence, but once I've read through it, a decision is usually very easy.  There are exceptions, but most subjects of arbitration are clearly liabilities to Wikipedia.

10. Looking in retrospective, is there anything you would have done differently?
 * No, I don't have any significant regrets. There are cases I would have handled somewhat differently, if I knew then what I know now, but only in degree, not kind.

11. Do you feel that the ArbCom is appreciated by the community? If not, how do you think that could be changed?
 * I don't think the ArbComm is noticed much by the community, and that's the way it should be. While being appreciated is nice, before working on that, I'd rather work on getting the community to be more reluctant to involve the Committee in their affairs.  Arbitration should be a painful last resort, only invoked when all other avenues of reconciliation are exhausted.

12. What is the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable?
 * The most frustrating thing is the difficulty we have in closing cases, caused by vanishing arbiters. The most enjoyable is successfully removing from our community those that hinder the creating of a free encyclopedia.

Jdforrester

 * 1. Are up for re-election this year?
 * Yes, I am All of the temporary appointees' terms end in December.
 * 2. If so, do you plan to run for re-election?
 * I plan to run for election for a second time, yes. Hopefully this time I will be successful. :-)
 * 3. How do you feel about serving on the ArbCom?
 * I consider it very interesting work, and certainly useful to the community. However, it occupies quite a lot of my time related to Wikipedia (and Wikimedia generally), which I could otherwise spend doing other things, though quite probably less useful ones. :-)
 * 4. What do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom?
 * When cases come all the way to us, the disputes are often difficult and highly acrimonious, and also seemingly never-ending. The Committee's ruling generally causes the problem to end, or at the very least abate significantly. But then, that is the entire point of the Committee, so I would say that.
 * 5. Weaknesses?
 * The Arbitration Committee is, by design, much slower than any other process on Wikipedia, because we want to consider the cases carefully and try our hardest to come up with workable and successful solutions and remedies to the problems that are brought to us which are in the best interests of the project and the community at large. This slowness has been criticised, and understandably so, but I think it preferable to the Committee rushing through things and being a destructive force.
 * 6. If you could change anything, what would you change? Why?
 * It is disappointing that participants in cases do not try to structure nor marshall their arguments in a way that is clear both what they consider wrong in general, the the parts that they are most concerned about. If we were merely concerned in which side presented the better argument, we could just discard them, but we're actually here for the good of the project overall, so we just have to deal with it as best we can. Sometimes it is rather frustrating that we don't force people to actually work at what they want, but I'm not sure that there's much that we can do about it, sadly.
 * 7. Do you regret accepting your position? Why or why not?
 * No, I do not. It's a necessary duty for Wikipedia, and it doesn't tire me the way that it seems to tire others, so I suppose it's my duty to carry it out.
 * 8. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why?
 * Be aware that the worst possible thing that the Committee could do, worse even than effectively stalling for months at a time and not dealing with cases, is to carry out cases in such a way that the community's trust in the Committee is reduced. The Committee only works because we keep that, and it's absolutely vital. We inherited a great deal of responsibility from Jimbo when he delegated his powers to us, and abusing or jeopardising the faith placed in us, even accidentally, would be disastrous.
 * 9. Do you think your job is easy? Hard? Explain.
 * Elements of being an Arbitrator are quite hard - analysing the evidence is often difficult, and made more so by counter-productive ways in which complaints and items of evidence are displayed. Then there's taking the flak - whatever decision you come to, at least one party will likely feel slighted at least partially. Sometimes this goes quite a bit further (death threats and to a lesser extent other threats of violence are not unknown, though they have become significantly less common of late, and then there are the obvious elements of vague legal threats, and rude emails generally). The main difficult is probably the workload - reading through reams of posts is tiring work, and not everyone (or anyone, really) would find it fun.
 * 10. Looking in retrospective, is there anything you would have done differently?
 * Not really. I could be rather asinine and say that I wish I'd devoted more time overall, but I could always say that. There isn't really a limit to how much time you can end up spending.
 * 11. Do you feel that the ArbCom is appreciated by the community? If not, how do you think that could be changed?
 * Sometimes, certainly, it feels like the Committee not being appreciated that much by the community gets some of us down, but again this problem seems unsurmountable, really. When we do well, people don't really notice that much - there's merely one iota less friction in the system. When we do less well, however, people complain readily. :-) This is even more significantly a problem in mediation, both formal and informal, and as these underpin the dispute resolution process and are vital to making the Arbitration process work at all, really.
 * 12. What is the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable?
 * The most enjoyable part of being an Arbitrator is the sense that you are doing something significant for the community. The most frustrating part, really, is the lack of recognition. But such is life.
 * I hope that this helps you.
 * BTW, it's "Arbitrator" with a capital 'A' (and with the other terms, too), always. :-)
 * James F. (talk) 17:24, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Jayjg
1. Are up for re-election this year?

 * Well, I was never elected, I was appointed, but my term does expire in December

2. If so, do you plan to run for re-election?

 * Yes, I do.

3. How do you feel about serving on the ArbCom?

 * It's an important job, but it takes a lot of time.

4. What do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom?

 * It's a mechanism for dealing with editors who are damaging Wikipedia, but not so blatantly that they can be summarily banned.

5. Weaknesses?

 * It's overloaded, and there's a lot of burnout - sometimes before people even start work. Paradoxically, the Committee sometimes also takes on work in areas in which I think it has no mandate; specifically, it seems to want to gather evidence and prosecute cases, not just adjudicate them.

6. If you could change anything, what would you change? Why?

 * On the committee side, I'd like it to stick more closely to its mandate, as in the previous question. On the complainants side, I wish they would present evidence in a way that doesn't take hours and hours to slog through, and which deals with all sorts of things unrelated to policy.

7. Do you regret accepting your position? Why or why not?

 * No, no regrets. It's an unrewarding job, but I see it as a way of giving back to Wikipedia.

8. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why?

 * Make sure you're really, really committed to sticking it out, and putting in a lot of time.

9. Do you think your job is easy? Hard? Explain.

 * It's difficult, for the reasons listed above, and because you have to try to get to the bottom of sometimes very messy and confusing cases.

10. Looking in retrospective, is there anything you would have done differently?

 * I haven't been at it long enough yet to have much of a retrospective.

11. Do you feel that the ArbCom is appreciated by the community? If not, how do you think that could be changed?

 * I think it is appreciated to an extent, but would be much more appreciated if it worked more quickly. Ideally no case should take more than a month from first submission to final remedies.

12. What is the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable?

 * I find the lack activity on the part of many members to be frustrating; it really slows things down. The most enjoyable part is (hopefully) making Wikipedia a better place.

Jayjg (talk) 22:02, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Theresa knott
1.No next year

2.NA

3.I feel proud to be trusted by the community.

4. I don't know, i'm too close to it to be able to judge.

5. Still to slow for most cases.

6. I'd make it less formal and less legalistic.

7. A bit. Most of my time on wikipedia used to be spend editing, drawing diagrams and socialing. Now much of my times is spending reading endless talk pages and trying to fathom out what to do about disruptive/nasty POV pushing nutcases. It's soul destroying. But someone's gotta do it.

8. You have no idea the amount of time this will suck up.

9. Ocassionally easy (some cases are straightforward but not many), but usually hard.

(more answes later) Theresa Knott (a tenth stroke) 15:23, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Neutrality
1. Are up for re-election this year?/''2. If so, do you plan to run for re-election?''
 * No, my term is up in December 2007, more than two years from now; I'll decide whether to run for reelection at that time.

3. How do you feel about serving on the ArbCom?
 * It is a honor that I am very grateful for. The committee is a vital part of our project and hopefully helps protects the community from those that disrupt it, either through malice, ignorance, or ideological blindness. We are a changing organization, especially of late, and for the most part I feel we are getting more effective at our job. We have a very long way to go, and there are several major problems. I have confidence that these will be rectified soon enough. Generally, after an election there is a burst of productivity, so hopefully by mid-January we can close all currently active cases. I'd like to have this as an official goal.

4. What do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom?
 * We are elected by the community and therefor have legitimacy–authority to act on behalf of all editors. In addition, our group is very diverse. We have members from Australia, Britain, the U.S., and Canada, of both genders. We also have a good basic framework that allows for much due process–many would argue that it offers too much due process that needlessly clogs the system.

5. Weaknesses?
 * The committee takes a very long time to decide cases. Justice delayed is justice denied, and many of our more troublesome respondents taken advantage of the long decision time by wreaking havoc. Our rate of closing cases needs to be sped up to be consummate. Part of the problem is excessive legalism. I think we should limit the number of principles and findings of fact and possibly even create a single general principle. Another problem is the number of Arbitrators that must vote on each case. If we could create panels of three Arbitrators to work on each case and make a decision–possibly subject to ratification by the full panel or another check–this would drastically speed up our progress.

''6. If you could change anything, what would you change? Why?''
 * The speed, see above.

''7. Do you regret accepting your position? Why or why not?''
 * No. Despite the system's flaws, it is an important process that I am glad to take part in.

''8. If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why?
 * Why are you running? If you're running purely for status, or power, or for a particular agenda, you might want to reconsider your candidacy. Arbitration is hard work. Are you dedicated? Can you afford the time needed to arbitrate? Look at your real life. Do you have some major school- or work-related issues, or vacation, that could interfere with your access to the Internet or available free time? All of these should be considerations.
 * If you're running to reform the committee and improve Wikipedia: I wish you the best of luck. Surely there are dozens of qualified candidates–I could probably name 30 that would be suitable.
 * If you are unsuccessful in your candidacy: please don't get discouraged. Your comments are always welcome and valued. This especially applied to those who will be very close to winning a seat. Remember, if a member steps down mid-term, Jimbo and the committee will search for an interim appointment, and those people are prime candidates.

''9. Do you think your job is easy? Hard? Explain.''/12. What is the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable?
 * Sometimes it is easy, sometimes it is hard. There are several complex cases that involve charts and long lists of edits and transgressions. Arbitrating between two well-known members of the community are the hardest, especially when both are respected. It is often frustrating to deal with obstinate or malicious users; it is most enjoyable when these users are banished from our community.
 * I'm tired and I'm going to bed. I omitted questions 10 and 11; maybe if I have time I'll answer them later. If you have any comments or follow-ups feel free to contact me on my talk page. Warmest regards --Neutralitytalk 03:41, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Raul654

 * 1) Are up for re-election this year? - No, I was elected last year to a 3 year term. My term ends in two years.
 * 2) If so, do you plan to run for re-election? - (See above)
 * 3) How do you feel about serving on the ArbCom? - Although this may sound immodest, I think I have had a positive influence on the committee. While individually and as a whole, the arbcom has made mistakes, when you consider the sheer volume of cases we have to process and the difficulty of each one, I think that's understandable.
 * 4) What do you think are the strengths of the ArbCom? - One strength is that the members of the arbitration committee are held in high regard in the community. Another strength is that rather than being an assembly line for handing out bans, we try very hard (and not always successfully) to craft remedies that suit the merits of a particular case. Also, so far, the arbitration committee has had a quality of good-faith colloboration. By that, I mean that arbitrators are very cooperative and trusting with with one another (knock on wood). Infighting amongst the arbitrators is almost unheard of (I can think of one relatively minor exception but I won't go into details). One of the primary reasons the arbitration committee is possible is because the members trust each other (remember, given the current arbitration committtee rules, it's emmintenly possible for a minority of 3 or 4 arbitrators to "game" the system. However, that would never happen, at least not with the current members).
 * 5) Weaknesses? - The arbcom has a great deal of difficulty dealing with certain classes of cases. POV pushing on technical subjects is very difficult to arbitrate (the meteorology dispute); so are cases involving diputes between good users (EK-Snowsinner), good users who screw up (Ed Poor) or good users who have one bad habit that requires arbitration (Jguk).
 * 6) If you could change anything, what would you change? Why? - There are several improvements that could be made to make arbitration faster and more effecient. In order (most important to least important) they are: less bureacracy policies for accepting and resolving cases, alternate lower-order venue(s) for cases to go to (a replacement for the mediation committee, which has never worked), more helpers, and (Mav's idea) a pool a reserve arbitrators to take over when an arbitrator resigns. Just to clarify - when I say more helpers, I mean non-arbitrators who help us sort out a case. This is in contrast to, for example, the AMA, which has never (that I can remember) done anything useful in a case. As Fred (a former lawyer) has said previously, they never actually argue the merits of their case (and given the people I have seen them representing, that's no real surprise). The AMA represenatives simply complain about how horribly unfair the proceeings are, how arbitrators S, T, U, V, and W should recuse themselves because they are horribly biased, how the decision is fraught with inequity and is a giant overstepping of power, 'etc. They exclusively argue process instead of proceeings.
 * 7) Do you regret accepting your position? Why or why not? - No, I do not regret accepting the position (or I would have already resigned). As I said above, I think my presence has been positive influence. I ran for the arbitration commitee as a result of the Plautus debacle, and since then, things have gotten better (although you wouldn't know it from all the bad press we get).
 * 8) If you could say one thing to the current ArbCom candidates, what would you say, and why? - DON'T DO IT!!! Seriously folks, it's a lousy job. The pay ($0/hour) sucks, the hours stink, and the work is difficult. Very good users will think bad things of you . The job is hard -- very time consuming, difficult to manage, bureacratic, and easy to screw up.
 * 9) Do you think your job is easy? Hard? Explain. - See my previous answer
 * 10) Looking in retrospective, is there anything you would have done differently?
 * 11) Do you feel that the ArbCom is appreciated by the community? Being on the Arbitration Committee is the most thankless job on Wikipedia. It is absolutely impossible to do it such that people are happy with you. If you are doing a bad job, people complain; if you are doing a good job, people don't notice (or sometimes even then complain). All of your actions are examined under a microscope. People expect you to be the Oracle of all truth - to work miracles no matter how complicated the case, no matter how how bad the evidence, no matter how hostile and stubborn the disputants. And of course, there are the accusations of cabalism. - Raul's 9th law. Delerium (accurately, IMO) called it "the most karma [reputation] damaging thing you can do on Wikipedia" In partincular I find it hurtful when someone like (
 * 12) What is the most frustrating thing about being on the ArbCom? Enjoyable? Being on the arbcom has so many frustrations, it's sort of hard to single any one of them out. Being vastly overworked is probably the worst part  (and the sense that the work is neverending; that there will always, always be more case to arbitrate). As for being enjoyable, as I'm sure I've made clear by now, there's not a whole lot there to enjoy. I suppose I "enjoy" (and I use the word loosely) being on the committee in the sense that I have some sort of control over what we do with troublemakers. Given the choice of working on the arbitration commmittee and the alternative I experienced last year (being powerless while Plautus was running amok), I suppose prefer being on the committee.  (Is that power-tripping? I'm sure there are some people who would say it is, but I think it's a very common sense position to take)

David Gerard

 * My term runs out end of this year.
 * Nope. I signed up for a year because I had a good grasp of my attention span ;-) In any case, I'm presently marked inactive owing to work pressures and just a bit of burnout.
 * It's worth doing, but crikey it's a lot of work and involves dealing with a lot of utter stupidity.
 * It keeps a lot of rubbish out of Jimbo's in-tray, so he can get on with other things. It gives us a mechanism to get rid of the truly poisonous or the truly clueless.
 * It's not scaling too well - as the wiki gets more popular, the number of editors and hence the number of problem children goes up in proportion - and we're burning through arbs at a horrendous rate. It gets some people thinking in terms of taking editors they're arguing with to the authorities rather than actually trying to work with people they disagree with. (The AC Is Not Your Mother. It's the last resort, not the first.)
 * I would wave a magic wand and make the statements and evidence submitted more concise, well-written and clueful. Unfortunately, many problem editors (particularly those too clueless to work with others) are weak on precisely these points.
 * Not at all. It's a messy job, but it's got to be done.
 * "You have not understood the depths of human stupidity on Wikipedia until you have tried to sort out some of these things."
 * It's difficult and stressful. You have to be extremely clueful, be seen to be extremely clueful, and have a skin like a rhinoceros. Everyone will want a piece of you.
 * Not sure. The process needs streamlining, but it's not clear how to.
 * Mostly, I think. We need to work faster.
 * The most frustrating thing is dealing with cases which should never reach the AC and which are really Foolishness vs Foolishness. The really enjoyable bit is making Wikipedia a better place to work by ejecting the really poisonous troublemakers.

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Going Mobile

"Going Mobile" is a song written by Pete Townshend and originally released by the Who on their 1971 album Who's Next. It was originally written for Townshend's abandoned Lifehouse project, with lyrics celebrating the joy of having a mobile home and being able to travel the open road. The Who's lead singer Roger Daltrey did not take part in the recording of the song, leaving the rest of the band to record it as a power trio; Townshend handles the lead vocals, guitars, and synthesizers, with John Entwistle on bass guitar and Keith Moon on drums. The song has attracted mixed reviews from music critics. This is one of only two songs on Who's Next not to feature Daltrey. (The John Entwistle-penned composition "My Wife" was the other one)

Lyrics and music
"Going Mobile" is one of the lighter moments on Who's Next. It was originally conceived as part of Townshend's abandoned Lifehouse project. Townshend described the use of the song in the proposed project as follows: "As the story unfolded, because of the vagaries of the modern world, because of pollution being caused mainly by people's need to travel, to be somewhere else. (People) had been told, 'You can't do that anymore. You have to stay where you are.' But people have got this lust for life, and adventure, and a bit of color." It celebrates the joys of having a mobile home and being able to travel the highways at will – Townshend himself had acquired a mobile home about a year before the song was recorded. An example of the theme is illustrated by such lyrics as:

"Going Mobile" was recorded without Who lead singer Roger Daltrey. Rather, guitarist and songwriter Townshend handled the vocals on the song. Instrumentation includes acoustic guitar, bass guitar and drums. A VCS 3 synthesizer is also overdubbed on part of the song. Further, on his guitar solo, Townshend plays the instrument through an envelope follower, a feature of the ARP synthesizer that produces what Townshend describes as a "fuzzy wah-wah sound". Author Chris Charlesworth describes the effect as being as if Townshend is playing underwater. Allmusic critic Tom Maginnis describes Entwistle's bass playing on the song as "ultra-fluid" and Moon's drumming as "exuberant."

Critical reception
Rolling Stone's John Mendelsohn described the song as "faintly inane", adding that it "celebrates the joys of, ho hum, being free to roam the highways and byways in one’s trailer." However, in The Rolling Stone Record Guide, John Swenson described "Going Mobile" as one of "Townshend's most beautiful songs". Allmusic's Tom Maginnis states that "Going Mobile" "shows the tremendous energy of the band without the support of powerful guitar amplification". Charlesworth states that "Going Mobile" "lacks the grandeur" of some other Who's Next songs, but nonetheless considers it "a witty and worthy contender".

Other appearances
The Who never performed "Going Mobile" live. Townshend included a version of "Going Mobile" on his solo album The Lifehouse Chronicles. In 2011, Simon Townshend performed the song with Roger Daltrey's No Plan B band on its "Tommy Reborn" concert tour.

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Bears Paw Mountains

The Bears Paw Mountains (Bear Paw Mountains, Bear's Paw Mountains or Bearpaw Mountains) are an insular-montane island range in the Central Montana Alkalic Province in north-central Montana, United States, located approximately 10 miles south of Havre, Montana. Baldy Mountain, which rises 6916 ft above sea level, is the highest peak in the range. The Bears Paw Mountains extend in a 45-mile arc between the Missouri River and Rocky Boy Indian Reservation south of Havre.

Name
Locals refer to the range as the Bearpaws. Indigenous names include Waną́be, Daxpitcheeischikáate, and ʔɔɔwɔ́hʔoouh.

While highway signs designate the range as the Bears Paw Mountains, historically, the names Bearpaw Mountains and Bear Paw Mountains also have been used, including on early state maps of the region. The U.S. Geological Survey continues to use Bearpaw Mountains on publications.

Geology

The core of the Bearpaws are composed of extensive Eocene aged igneous intrusions left over from one of the largest eruptive centers in the Central Montana Alkaline Province. Shonkinite, latite, & tinguatite are among the most common igneous rock compositions found in the Bearpaws.

The Cretaceous Bearpaw Formation outcrops in these mountains, and is named for the range.

History
Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce surrendered to Col. Nelson Miles in the foothills of the Bear's Paw Mountains in October 1877 after the Battle of Bear Paw.

Native American legend
Native oral history ties the name to a lone hunter in search of deer to feed his clan. He killed a deer but, while returning to the prairie, encountered a bear. The bear held the hunter to the ground, and the hunter appealed to the Great Spirit to release him. The Great Spirit filled the heavens with lightning and thunder, striking the bear dead and severing its paw to release the hunter. Looking at Box Elder Butte, one can see the paw, and Centennial Mountain to the south resembles a reclining bear.

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Talk:Luxurious

Yet another Gwen Stefani Commercial Advertisement?
Fresh from the featured advert for "Cool" we now have yet another free advert masquerading as a legitimate Wiki article. Please explain to me why you feel that in 100 years time someone will type the words "Luxurious" into our search engine expecting to see this article? Yes she should have a bio, but a track by track uncritical puff piece for each song? No. --HasBeen 14:21, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Complaints
So far one complaint has been filed against User:Mel Etitis, with a second one currently in progress. If this continuous opposition to anything User:Anittas, User:OmegaWikipedia or myself continue, a final complaint will be going to HQ. Winnermario 23:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

AFD debate link
This page has been kept following this AFD debate. Sjakkalle (Check!)  10:54, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Again, please explain how this advert copied word for word from a press release is suitable for addition to any encylcopaedia other than one of advertising success? Is wiki just an extention of the commercial iterests of USA recording corporations? --HasBeen 14:23, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Another AFD failed. See Articles for deletion/Luxurious (song). Johnleemk | Talk 10:41, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

RfC
I've placed this as a sample article at RfC (regarding disagreements over table formatting), and created a discussion page at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music/Tables for charts. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:52, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Something about the song
The article is pretty good! I applaud the user who improved it. I will take the initative of completing it! –Cruz AFade (Speak about it | How many?) 15:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Above comment by sockpuppet of, the user who expanded this article. Extraordinary Machine 21:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Free image
I've removed Image:Luxuriousscreencapwithslimthug1.jpg again, since we now have a free-licensed image that illustrates Slim Thug's participation in the song. Per Fair use criteria, "Always use a more free alternative if one is available. Such images can often be used more readily outside the U.S. If you see a fair use image and know of an alternative more free equivalent, please replace it, so the Wikipedia can become as free as possible." Extraordinary Machine 21:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

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PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 20:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC) Luxurious (song) → Luxurious — I can understand that people might be looking for an article about luxuries, but it seems unlikely that luxurious would be used to describe the economic term luxury good, defined as "a good for which demand increases more than proportionally as income rises". ShadowHalo 07:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey

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Survey - in support of the move

 * 1) Support. I understand the idea of wanting to redirect to real-world stuff as opposed to pop culture stuff in cases like this, but I think "Luxurious" is far enough away from "Luxury goods" to warrant a move. Recury 16:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Support. Possibly with a dablink to Luxury at the top of the page.  Saikokira 06:30, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Unwilling support. Per Recury's reason about Luxury goods. If I find anything else notable called "Luxurious" to write an article about, I will, but I'm not having any luck. cab 02:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Survey - in opposition to the move

 * 1) oppose a reader searching for a topic might not know what it is "exactly" titled at so they will type in similar words like Luxurious. The concept of luxury/luxurious is far more primary then the song. 205.157.110.11 23:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

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 * The issue of people searching for luxury is a moot point. Luxury is a disambiguation page whose first article listed is Luxury good (this song doesn't even appear there).  The question is whether or not people looking for the economic term Luxury good will use the search term luxurious.  ShadowHalo 04:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
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GA
Sorry for the late review, i can't see anything wrong with the article except this sentence -
 * It entered the top forty of most of the charts it entered but had only mediocre success overall and was less popular than the previous singles from L.A.M.B. I don't like the wording of the first part (It entered the top forty of most of the charts it entered, it entered twice in one sentence) perhaps something like, "It entered top forty charts worldwide, but had mediocre success blah blah". Also saying "only" is a bit POV (implying it's a poor performance). Anyway goodwork and gl with FLC. M3tal H3ad 05:12, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * "It entered top forty charts" implies that the charts themselves are top forty (as opposed to the UK Top 75 singles, for example) so I changed it to "It entered the top forty worldwide" since it peaked at 27 on the world chart. Thanks for reviewing the article.  ShadowHalo 18:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

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GA Sweeps: Pass
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing Sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I went through the article and made various changes, please look them over. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good Article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2007. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would be beneficial to update the access dates for all of the sources. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:44, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review and clean up! — R  2  11:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

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