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Robert D. Bailey Jr.

Robert Darias Bailey Jr. (October 12, 1912 – September 29, 1994) was West Virginia Secretary of State from 1965 to 1969. He was a graduate of Concord College and Washington and Lee University School of Law.

Born in Baileysville, he was the son of Robert D. Bailey Sr. and Sue Starkey Bailey. During World War II, he served in the U.S. Army in the European Theater. Admitted to the bar in 1934, he inherited his father's law practice, including representation of railroads and timber companies in southern West Virginia, based in his home town of Pineville. His own wide-ranging business involvements included the Castle Rock Bank of Pineville, Radio Station WWYO, the Independent Herald newspaper, and the Pineville Gas Company.

A Democrat, he was Wyoming County Prosecuting Attorney for a number of non-consecutive terms between 1943 and 1961. He was appointed West Virginia Secretary of State by Governor Hulett C. Smith on May 17, 1965, and was elected in 1966, serving until January 1969.

After Smith's term ended, Bailey returned to private practice in his home town of Pineville.

He died on September 29, 1994, in Princeton, West Virginia, and was survived by his wife Jean H. Bailey, his son Robert D. Bailey III, and his three grandchildren, Angela Sue Osborn, Robert Darias Bailey IV, and Micah Alexander Bailey. Bailey was an avid fisherman, gardener, and local philanthropist.

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Talk:Vienna station (Washington Metro)

Parking numbers needing an update
Owing to the closure of the "temporary overflow lot" at the corner of Saintsbury and Vaden Drives near the South Garage, we now have outdated information in our article about the number of parking spaces. Thus why I've added the update tag to the article. Metro has not yet provided us with new numbers for us regarding number of spaces, so there's not much we can do yet at this point.

Additionally, plans for a third parking structure are allegedly in the works, based on signage presently at the station. If I can find a good source for that, I'll incorporate it into the article. SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Updates?
JoshEdgar 23:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Actually I think I see now that the update tag shouldn't be removed now because the update was needed because of parking. But, these are my updates if anyone needs to know about them JoshEdgar 23:53, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Your edits actually show up automatically in the page history. Not bad, though I did clean it up a bit. SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

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Formatting per WP:DASH and WP:SLASH?
There has been discussion at User talk:SchuminWeb regarding how Vienna/Fairfax–GMU should be formatted per WP:DASH and WP:SLASH. What it boils down to is, does the difference in punctuation types create two units, one multi-word and one single (i.e. formatted as "Vienna / Fairfax–GMU" or Vienna/Fairfax – GMU"), or are the different punctuation types irrelevant, and we have three single-word units (i.e. Vienna/Fairfax–GMU)?

I'm taking the discussion here because I'd like to get a wider opinion on how people think we should treat the different punctuation types. What do folks think? SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:18, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 23 December 2014

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The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus is less clear than in the other simultaneous RMs, but still appears to be in favour. Plus for the sake of WP:CONSISTENCY it would be odd to move all the other articles but not this small set. Number  5  7  16:47, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

– Following the move of the Green Line stations per the new WP:USSTATION guideline, these stations should have WP:NATURAL disambiguation (and eventually, consistency within the whole system). I think consensus there can be interpreted as a mandate to move them all, but for now, I thought this would be helpful for more pairs of eyes to check for possible naming conflicts. Note that Vienna, Clarendon, and Court House need disambiguation. --BDD (talk) 19:17, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Vienna (WMATA station) → Vienna Station (Virginia)
 * Dunn Loring (WMATA station) → Dunn Loring Station
 * West Falls Church (WMATA station) → West Falls Church Station
 * East Falls Church (WMATA station) → East Falls Church Station
 * Ballston–MU (WMATA station) → Ballston–MU Station
 * Virginia Square–GMU (WMATA station) → Virginia Square–GMU Station
 * Clarendon (WMATA station) → Clarendon Station (Virginia)
 * Court House (WMATA station) → Court House Station (Virginia)
 * Minnesota Avenue (WMATA station) → Minnesota Avenue Station
 * Deanwood (WMATA station) → Deanwood Station
 * Cheverly (WMATA station) → Cheverly Station
 * Landover (WMATA station) → Landover Station
 * New Carrollton (WMATA station) → New Carrollton Station

 * Hold pending the outcome of Move review/Log/2014 December, which is being used erroneously as a precedent for capitalization. I might also oppose for other reasons, but let's get this figured out first.  Dicklyon (talk) 23:55, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Support. There is clear consensus for the WP:USSTATION guidelines and the proposed titles better follow policy in regards to WP:COMMONNAME, WP:CONCISE, WP:PRECISE, WP:NATURAL, and WP:RECOGNIZABILITY.--Cúchullain t/ c 14:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. But how about this instead:
 * Clarendon (WMATA station) → Clarendon Station (Washington Metro) or Clarendon Station (with hatnote)
 * Court House (WMATA station) → Court House Station (Washington Metro) or Court House Station (with hatnote)
 * Vienna (WMATA station) → Vienna Station (Washington Metro)
 * I am proposing these alternate titles because the suffix "(Washington Metro)" should be used for consistency, rather than "(Virginia)", "(Maryland)", and "(Washington, D.C.)", which are not natural disambiguators. Epicgenius (talk) 16:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * See WP:USSTATION. --BDD (talk) 16:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually isn't intended to favor the state over everything else, especially when more precise terms are more identifiable. In this case I'd think either the cities or "Washington Metro" would probably be the most recognizable to readers, especially for "Vienna", which is ambiguous with Austrian stations as well. Clarendon Station doesn't seem to need any other disambiguation.--Cúchullain t/ c 16:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I prefer the location, Virginia for Vienna and Court House, rather than system. "(Washington Metro)" is also not a natural disambiguator. Nothing in parentheses is a natural disambiguator. Agree that Clarendon doesn't need disambiguation. (A hatnote to Central Frontenac, already in the article, should suffice.) --Scott Alter (talk) 03:08, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is wrong. When people think about the Vienna Station in Fairfax, VA, they don't think, "Oh, this is the Vienna Virginia Metrorail station" because that's wrong; it's the Washington Metro although still in Virginia. Virginia is actually not a natural disambiguator because "Virginia" suggests that an entity in the state of Virginia, or the state itself operates the station, or that it is a long distance railway station rather than a metro station. Why exactly are we changing the naming style to geographical, anyway? Epicgenius (talk) 19:43, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * An entity in the state of Virginia does operate the station, inasmuch as WMATA "is a tri-jurisdictional government agency". --BDD (talk) 20:42, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Then why can you not use the same disambiguator throughout, and avoid the confusion that you are supposedly resolving in the first place? Epicgenius (talk) 20:57, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I never claimed that "Virginia" was a natural disambiguator. But neither "Virginia" nor "Washington Metro" are natural disambiguators - thus the need to put them in parentheses instead of the actual title. The purpose of disambiguation here is to differentiate "Vienna station" from other articles also named Vienna Station, which includes Vienna (VTA), Vienna (WMATA station), Calhoun, Kentucky (formerly named Vienna Station, Kentucky), and a few European stations. Instead of the trying to figure out what people are thinking when they want to refer to the Washington Metro station in Virginia, we as editors need to figure out how best to differentiate between the articles that we have. The need for disambiguation is because of the technical limitation of Wikipedia being unable to have 2 articles at the same title - not the need to provide the most information about the article in the title. Having "Vienna station (Virginia)" and "Vienna station (California)" provide more clarity and differentiation to me than "Vienna station (Washington Metro)" and "Vienna station (VTA)". To an uninformed reader, they may have no idea where (or what) Washington Metro, WMATA, or VTA are, and they might not know what transit system the station they are looking for are in. (Perhaps "Washington Metro" may refer to something in Washington State, and who knows what VTA stands for - maybe the V stands for Virginia?) They may only know that they are curious about a station named Vienna somewhere in Virginia. Another reason for not preferring using the transit system name as the disambiguator across the board is because many stations serve multiple agencies and systems. Many US stations serve Amtrak and the local train, for instance. By using a system as a disambiguating term, you are excluding the other system that stops there. In this case, other non-Washington Metro bus lines stop at this station. So by disambiguating the station by location, you don't need to worry about potentially changing the name of the article if services change. --Scott Alter (talk) 17:51, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I think Scott answered your question much better than I could, Epicgenius. I think there's a bit of a miscommunication here because you're referring to "natural disambugators" and the rest of us are thinking WP:NATURAL. A parenthetical disambiguator is almost never natural disambiguation, but I think I see what you mean: disambiguators that are more intuitive, or expected, perhaps. --BDD (talk) 23:21, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

 * Support per WP:USSTATION. Adding station to the article title provides natural disambiguation, without the need for parenthetical disambiguation (in most cases) per WP:NATURAL. Regarding capitalization, if "station" is not in the official name (and I do not think it is), then it should be lowercase. If "Station" is in the official station name, then it should be capitalized. --Scott Alter (talk) 03:08, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

 * Support per nom with "Station" capitalized as the signs at the stations do. Would greatly prefer "Washington Metro" as a disambiguator to "WMATA" or "Virginia" which are far less helpful to readers seeking the correct article. (Yes, I know that other systems use the stations but their primary use is by Metro train and bus).  —  AjaxSmack  03:23, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

 * Oppose – the guideline says to use lowercase "station" unless "Station" is part of the official station name. The evidence seems to show that it is not; the official station lists do not include "Station" as part of the name, nor do many books, and the signs that include "Station" are capitalized because they are signs.  If we're trying to implement the new guideline, let's do it right or not do it.  Dicklyon (talk) 05:04, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Reread the original nominating statement: consistency within the whole system is sought.  Hello, we already have consistency here, and the proposal's attempting to dismantle it.  Nyttend (talk) 01:04, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Nyttend, we have two US state articles with disambiguators (i.e., Georgia (U.S. state) and Washington (state)). Should we seek consistency within that whole system (e.g., Colorado (state), Virginia (state))? --BDD (talk) 14:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * No, although it's absurd that the two are differently disambiguated. The point is that we currently have consistent nomenclature here, just as we have almost-consistent nomenclature with the US states.  Nyttend (talk) 14:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Isn't WP:NATURAL disambiguation preferable though? --BDD (talk) 14:57, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

 * Support – Per WP:USSTATION. It will be nice to see the preferable natural disambiguation finally reign supreme, as the title criteria suggest it should. Let's have titles that are more concise, uniform, and natural. RGloucester  — ☎ 18:54, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * But the USSTATION guideline suggests it would be lowercase, as "Station" is not part of the official names of these stations. Dicklyon (talk) 05:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * But - I can't believe you are still going on and on about this. That is your POV. Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:51, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * How do you mean? Which part of the two simple things I said do you disagree with?  Dicklyon (talk) 16:57, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * But then I would be ranting on and on and on too! I just wonder if Sherlock would waste so much time on the case of the upper case. It does not matter doctor - the patient is dead. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:39, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

 * Oppose re: Nyttend. This is another solution in search of a problem case. --IJBall (talk) 20:02, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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Wrong information
Việt-Võ-Đạo is not a collective term, it is used the first time to indicate the philosophical part of the Vovinam, used by Master Le Sang, that become "Vovinam Việt-Võ-Đạo". Later in 1970s in Europe the term was misused for indicate such a "collective term". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.88.251.144 (talk) 02:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

External links not to be mentioned in the article, eg. schools

 * Fédération Française de Viet Vo Dao
 * Viet Vo Dao - Portugal
 * Viet Vo Dao - Italy
 * Club Tay Son - Italy

"insufficient context"
This article serves 2 purposes: Therefore this article does not need any more content. The remaining infomration can be fond in the addressed articles.
 * 1) It  prevents single vietnamese martial arts schools from claiming the name "Viet Vo Dao" - as has happended multiple times
 * 2) It says "Viet Vo Dao is a vollective term used to cover a number of similar vietnames martial art styles". It then directs to those styles.

Thomas 10:49, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Redirect?
Not sure why Vota redirected to this article as the term is not listed anywhere. I changed the redirect page to VOTA and placed an Otheruses4 tag on that page just in case people get lost. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

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This needs more de-purpling of my prose and a sanity check; it's part of an essay I wrote for class three years ago. But since I had it sitting around, I attempted to make an article out of it, and unusually for something I write about a composition, none of it is actually original research. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:39, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Instrumentation
The article states at its start that the piece is for 65 musicians, but later says 61. Which is it? Realillusions 12:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It is 61 musicians, with the three percussionists playing seven instruments. I am going to correct this in the article's introduction. — Tobias Bergemann 12:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Orginal title of work (and the meaning of that title)
On the YouTube image that accompanies a recording of this piece ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZazYFchLRI), I see that Xenakis calls the work "META – STASEIS". Puzzling. Not only is it not the Greek word for "metastasis" (that I can determine, not being a Greek speaker), but it's not even a word. It's not even one word, it's TWO WORDS, combined with a hyphen or dash. We all know what Meta means, but what does "Satseis" mean? Upon a lengthy Google search, I seem to find that it generally means "standing, station, status" -- all of which words mean pretty much the same thing. However, this does not necessarily bring us to an understanding of the title "Meta - Staseis". Does anyone have any direct quotes from Xenakis as to it's meaning, or have any insight into the Greek language? My guess is that it may refer to architectural structures. Softlavender (talk) 02:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Micropolyphony or not, that's the question
Well, this stuff reminds me a LOT of Ligeti's Atmosphères. Though it was Ligeti who coined the term in about 1961, it appears to me Xenakis uses the very same technique here even roughly 8 years before. Or would you experts (I can't call myself one) rather believe that the musical structure of "Metastasis" be different from micropolyphony? At least the "no member of the orchestra has the same score" bit is identical to what Ligeti conceived. -andy 77.190.4.110 (talk) 16:03, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * There is one important difference, and that is that Xenakis is gradually bending pitches along defined curves, whereas Ligeti's individual lines are more free to move in "melodic" fashion. In this way, the techniques used to produce the aural results are different. Both, however, are guided by global changes in density and register, so to this extent you are correct. In those days, of course (and for a long time after), it was something of a point of honour never to admit to having done anything that might be seen to have been done before, especially by a competitor. Therefore, Xenakis's "clouds" could not possibly be related to Stockhausen's "sound showers", nor could Boulez's Third Piano Sonata, Stockhausen's Klavierstück XI, or Haubenstock Ramati's "mobiles" have anything to do with Morton Feldman's series of Intersections or Henry Cowell's "Mosaic" Quartet. The cry (as lampooned in Monty Python's Life of Brian) was, "We are all individuals!" Of course, this is perfectly true: there are always distinctions to be made, often important ones. It is also true, however, that there is nothing new under the sun, and historians, authors of textbooks, and journalists are usually determined to keep as many of those dratted individuals from escaping their Procrustean pigeon-holes as possible. Personally, I think Elias Canetti's aphorism says it best: "It doesn't matter how new an idea is: what matters is how new it becomes".—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:23, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Bartók, Fibonacci- really now?
"it was used often by Bartók, among others."

This is a claim made by some scholars but not a proven fact, with no evidence of intentionality and, I gather, controversy beyond that. Please distinguish between the two in any Wikipedia article beyond the level of stub. Thank you. Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:55, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Erno Lendvai's assertion has been contested and defended. As with many another case, musicologists strongly prefer direct evidence (a letter from Bartók or a notation in a compositional sketch with at least the word "Fibonacci" in it) to analyses of scores purporting to show these relationships. It might be better in the present situation to say something like "alleged to have often been used by Bartók", but there are certainly other composers who have provided the kind of direct evidence musicologists prefer. I would suggest that a couple of dozen of the literally hundreds of books and articles discussing the compositional use or purported use of the Fibonacci series be cited, in order not to rely solely on the Bartók claim.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 03:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * PS: The usual way of dealing with this kind of situation is to mark the offending passage with a "citation needed" request. I have just done this. Please feel free to do likewise in any future situation you notice.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 03:24, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Ah, thanks. I was under the impression, from my memory of my reading of the documentation of those templates, that it was best to start on the talk page and after a discussion- or if a discussion had not occurred after a reasonable period of time but one (believed one) had a reasonable case - to insert the relevant template. I've been doing it backwards (I thought) almost always anyway, but wanted to gradually start doing it what I'd started to gather was the right way (or, I now gather, maybe not. ... Ok. ... Hrm. :)

 * (Hrm. "Fractals in Music: Introductory Mathematics for Musical Analysis" analyzes the Bartók and Stockhausen cases (re Fibonacci and the Golden Mean...) (leave alone the suggestions of this in a number of possible/suggested earlier uses from the Liber Usalis through works by Bach, Mozart, Beethoven to portions of Schoenberg Op.16/1&5, and some works by Debussy) and the best that can be said for them, according to the author (Charles B. Madden) is, I suppose, that an analysis of the Stockhausen Klavierstück IV (1954, rev. 1961) in terms of the Fibonacci Sequence makes sense if one allows oneself to ignore part of the piece, but none of the others make even that much except in a special-pleading sort of way... ) Schissel | Sound the Note! 22:57, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe I have been overly bold for all these years, but whenever I see a dubious claim I jump right in and tag it (after first making at least a cursory search for a source, of course). I shall have to look up this article, it sounds like it might be fun. I confess to a little astonishment at the claim about Klavierstück IV, which could require ignoring more than just a small part of the piece to make anything from it resemble the Fibonacci sequence. However, it was composed in 1952, and those years of composition correspond to Klavierstück IX, which is a different matter altogether (here I would like to see which parts of the piece Madden thinks must be ignored, and why this might make any difference to the analyses by Jonathan Kramer and others. Fibonacci numbers are indisputable in many another Stockhausen composition, but none to my knowledge from before 1959. Somebody once claimed that Klavierstück III (1952) must use Fibonacci numbers on the strength of nothing more than the fact that it has 55 notes in it, and 55 is one of the Fibonacci numbers. The trouble is, when it was first composed it had 56 notes, the last of which was removed after the fact by the composer.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 23:31, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * My link for the Madden is Fractals in Music etc. (link to p.70, section on Stockhausen). I admit my (usual) ignorance (for now) as to the rest, and thanks! Schissel | Sound the Note! 19:59, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link. I see that it is in fact IX and not IV that Madden discusses, and he appears to be relying on Kramer's analysis. I assume he must be a mathematician rather than a musician, since he seems troubled by the fact that the piece is not made purely out of Fibonacci numbers! Composers (at least, the good ones) are rarely so finicky about following rules strictly. Certainly, anyone who is still counting when the pianist stops after just 142 (instead of 144) eighth notes is paying attention to the wrong thing! (Just for the record, in 1954 Stockhausen only made the vaguest of plans for the Klavierstücke IX and X. The Fibonacci numbers, along with everything else in the score, only came into being in 1961).—Jerome Kohl (talk) 21:18, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

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revert
Regarding this revert, sure there is. It's the unincorporated community east of Falls Church. See List of unincorporated communities in Virginia and Falls Church, Virginia. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 07:10, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * NB: Both of those articles are entirely uncited, and defining an "important population center" seems difficult. In this case, however, I grant that "Arlington-East Falls Church" exists, as indicated by the Arlington PD district listing and the associated civic association. In practice, I feel talking about "East Falls Church" as a community to be confusing. Common usage just isn't there; Googling it shows that there's a park of that name, but not much else other than spammy real estate sites. L Faraone  14:31, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

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Asamushi Onsen

Asamushi Onsen (浅虫温泉) is the site of a hot spring, on the eastern edge of the city of Aomori in Aomori Prefecture, Japan. It was developed as the downtown beside the onsen town and is sometimes known as "Atami in Tohoku" after the famous Atami Onsen in Shizuoka, central Japan.

History
According to tradition, the hot spring was discovered by Hōnen when he visited Mutsu Province c. 1190 during the Heian period. It is said that he witnessed deer bathing in the water to heal their wounds. An older legend attributes the discovery to Ennin. In both cases, the locals were not aware of the healing properties of the hot springs until they were told by the monk. It was first used for steaming (mushi) hemp (Cannabis or asa), leading to the name, though the kanji character used for the name differs.

Early Meiji period
Asamushi Onsen as it was at the start of the Meiji period was recorded in a compilation of topographies published by the government in 1876. According to this, though Asamushi Onsen was known as a spa town, the locals were only just managing to get by from what few customers would come visit. As such, many of them worked away in Ezo. At this time, Asamushi Onsen was deemed a "rustic" hot spring area, with 18 guest houses built for those visiting the hot springs. There were small merchants in the area, but no transportation.

There is around 11.8 km between West Aomori and Asamushi Onsen, but along the way is a perilous pass known as Utōmai, which had no developed roads passing through it. Utōmai is a sheer precipice overlooking the sea, and at the time, people passed through it by going alongside the cliff face until they reached the tip of the peninsula, and then crossing a bridge over the rocks. Around 1862, the old village of Nonai dug out the rock wall and made space for a road, but it was not very wide, making it hard for horses to make their way through.

In 1876, Emperor Meiji visited Asamushi Onsen during his tour of Hokkaido. At the time, he was being transported in a palanquin with his attendants on horseback, but it was deemed too dangerous for them to pass through the steep roads of Utōmai. This was why the mountain side of the cliff was carved out, and the sea side was filled in and widened to 5 metres wide,  making it possible for horses and cattle to pass through. Tunnels were later built and expanded, making it an important route connecting the east and west of Aomori Prefecture.

Mid-Late Meiji period
In 1891, the Tōhoku Main Line was fully operational connecting Tokyo and Aomori by train, and Asamushi Station was opened. This was the driving force behind the gradual development of the hot spring town. The establishment of the station not only improved transportation links, but also served as a place for passengers travelling between Honshu and Hokkaido to rest their bodies during their long journey, or as a place to stay if bad weather conditions made it impossible to safely pass through the Tsugaru Strait. The area became more known outside of Aomori Prefecture after being used as a resting place for the survivors of the Hakkōda Mountains incident in 1902, and for soldiers injured during the Russo-Japanese War of 1905.

Taishō period
At the start of the Taishō period (1912-1926), Asamushi Onsen greatly developed due to the increase in visitors the war economy brought. In 1924, the Marine Biological Station (the predecessor of today's Research Centre for Marine Biology) of the then Tōhoku Imperial University, was founded in Asamushi. Asamushi Aquarium was built there and became one of the most popular aquariums in Japan at the time. In 1925, the Seiyukan was opened in Babayama. It was a hot spring facility with a theatre, a dining room, an entertainment room, an observatory and a banquet hall. It was expanded a year later to include lodgings and began to prosper greatly. This opportunity was used to increase the number of inns being built and renovated in the area, and before long, the area became an entertainment district with over 150 geisha and prostitutes.

Early Shōwa period
Though Aomori Prefecture is known for its cold winters, Asamushi Onsen's winters are mild and has become a year-round leisure destination: clam digging in spring, swimming in summer, fireworks displays in autumn, and skiing in winter. In 1936, the Towada-Hachimantai National Park was established in the same prefecture, but while it became popular as a tourist area due to its untouched nature, Asamushi Onsen became popular due to its gathering of cultural and leisure facilities. In 1939, the Aomori Sanatorium for Wounded Soldiers (predecessor of the Aomori National Hospital) was established near Asamushi Onsen, and a new station, Nishi-Hiranai Station, was built to accommodate visitors.

Asamushi is mentioned in the 1944 novel, Tsugaru (often titled Return to Tsugaru: Travels of a Purple Tramp) written by Osamu Dazai.

Culture
Shikō Munakata, born in the city of Aomori, left for Tokyo in 1924 to achieve his dream of becoming a painter. His attention then shifted to the art of woodblock printing, and in 1938, he finally managed to have a print of Asamushi's Utōmai accepted for the Nitten Exhibition. Excluding the year of the Pacific War, Munakata visited Asamushi Onsen every year and would stay for around one to two months. There still remains Buddhist pictures that he painted for the inn that he would stay at.

Kujira mochi is Asamushi Onsen's signature sweet. The recipe for the sweet was learned by a confectionary shop at Asamushi Onsen from another confectioner in Ajigasawa of the Tsugaru Region. It was created in 1907, when injured or sick soldiers during the Russo-Japanese War were kept at Asamushi Onsen. These sweets became popular as a souvenir due to their cheap price, shelf life and ease of carrying around. It also became known as a military discharge souvenir. In 1918, it was presented at a trade show, garnering it even more attention.

Current day
The hot spring resort was originally developed along the coastline, but a bypass was built that separated the resort and the sea. Some of the facilities had been built in such a way that they overlooked the sea from the guest rooms or the baths. As a result, old-fashioned hot spring inns lined the mountains, while large hotels were built along the seaside. In 1986, Asamushi Umizuri Park was built on the beach. This was a place to fish in Mutsu Bay from the pier, though a small pond was dug out for beginners. The park attracted over 30,000 visitors in its first year of operation.

The number of visitors to Asamushi Onsen has declined since the end of the bubble economy. The number of guests shrank from 295,000 in 1991 to 166,000 in 2016. The number of accommodations and restaurants has been cut in half compared to when it was at its most popular, and both Asamushi Elementary School and Asamushi Middle School were closed in 2013 and 2015, respectively. In 2017, a major hotel management company in the area also went out of business.

The local Michinoku Bank and operators of the inns are working together to revive the hot spring area. As part of the efforts to revitalise the area, Aomori Prefecture has been conducting research on the use of ground heat using heat pumps, and is considering geothermal power generation using hot spring heat as a renewable energy source, but this has yet to be realised due to issues such as profitability.

Onsen town
About 30 hotels and Japanese-style inns are in the town.

Attractions include the Asamushi Aquarium and the Wonderland Asamushi amusement park.

The Matsu no Yu communal onsen and Michi no Eki Asamushi Onsen are among the bathing facilities. There are hiking trails on the mountains behind the onsen town, with an overlook providing views of Mutsu Bay and the island of Yunoshima.

Yunoshima
Yunoshima is an uninhabited island 1 km off the coast of the onsen town. Its name comes from the hot spring that gushes out from the waters near the island. Clusters of katakuri (dogtooth violets) can be found there, and in April, the Yunoshima Katakuri Festival is held. There are also boat tours of the rock formations found around the island.

Hadakajima
Hadakajima is an uninhabited island 1.7 km away from the onsen town on the eastern tip of a cape known as Shiranezaki. Though originally part of the cape itself, it now stands by itself as a rock pillar due to erosion by the waves. A distinctive rhyolite of the Miocene known as Shiranesaki Rhyolite can be found here, but when used for the hot springs, it turns a yellow colour. It has long been a natural part of the scenery seen from Asamushi Onsen's coast. Records from the Edo period state the island as being around 45 metres high. It was originally named Hada-aka Island. A legend states that when a mother's child was swiped by an eagle and brought to the top of this rock, the mother desperately climbed the rock-face to try and save them. The blood seeping from her fingers as she climbed is where the name is rumoured to have come from. There is also a legend that the name comes from the lack of plant-life growing on the rock. The old Tōhoku University Marine Biological Station (now known as the Research Centre for Marine Biology and the old Asamushi Aquarium) can be found across from it.

Events

 * Yunoshima Katakuri Festival in April
 * Asamushi Nebuta Festival in mid-July, August 14
 * Fireworks on August 1

Transportation
The resort is served by Asamushi-Onsen Station on the Aoimori Railway Line, which connects to the JR East network at Aomori Station, Noheji Station, and Hachinohe Station. Bus access is provided as well at Michinoeki Asamushi-Onsen Station for Aomori City buses and Shimokita Kotsu buses. Visitors traveling to the resort by automobile can take National Route 4 east from the center of Aomori; the trip takes about 30 minutes on average.

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Bolani

Bolani (Dari: بولانی), also called Periki (Pashto: پارکی) is a stuffed flat-bread from Afghanistan, fried with a filling. It has a thin crust and can be stuffed with a variety of ingredients, such as potatoes or leeks but also grated pumpkin, chives, red lentils or with minced meat. It can be served with plain yogurt or mint yogurt and is usually served with a doogh drink.

Bolani is made for special occasions like birthday parties, engagement parties or holidays. It is widely sold on the streets in Afghanistan, particularly in cities such as Kabul, Jalalabad and Kandahar.

Egg-roll wrapper method
The method of using eggroll wrappers instead of making the dough for the bolani is a time saving convenience often used in Western countries. The edges of the eggroll wrappers are lightly brushed with water to allow for sticking. The wrappers are then filled half way either diagonally or lengthwise with the preferred filling. Each side is then fried until golden brown. This method is the easiest and fastest way of preparing bolani.

Baked dough method
Another popular method for making Bolani is baking them. Although frying is the most popular method for special occasions, baking is becoming very popular amongst the western crowd. While Bolani was originally baked to cut back on fat, it is now becoming popular due to the unique flavor it imparts. Baking allows for a thicker crust that leads to a fluffy pastry filled with toppings. Some argue that baked Bolani is not traditional due to its thick nature and meat stuffed variations. Regardless, it remains as one of the most popular methods of preparing Bolani in America.

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Goryeo–Khitan War

The Goryeo–Khitan War was a series of 10th- and 11th-century conflicts between the Goryeo dynasty of Korea and the Khitan-led Liao dynasty of China.

Goryeo–Khitan relations
Silla experienced a period of decline starting in the latter half of the 9th century, which continued until it was ultimately succeeded by Goryeo. This transition followed a time known as the Later Three Kingdoms, marked by conflict between the resurgent aristocracies of Goguryeo, Baekje, and the ruling Silla nobility. In 926, the Khitan Liao dynasty conquered Balhae, leading its last crown prince and the survivors to flee southward and seek refuge in Goryeo. This event marked the unification of the two successor states of Goguryeo.

Taejo of Goryeo embraced the refugees from Balhae as his fellow kin and pursued a policy of northern expansion (possibly enabled by the absence of a fellow Korean kingdom in what was once Goguryeo territory). In 942, the Khitan sent 50 camels to Goryeo as a gift. However, due to cold relations, Goryeo declined the gift, banished the envoy to an island, and had the camels die from starvation under a bridge. Hyeonjong ordered preparations in case of an upcoming conflict with the Liao.

First Invasion
In 993, the Liao dynasty launched an invasion against the northwestern frontier of Goryeo with a force that the Liao commander alleged to be 800,000 strong. After a military stalemate, negotiations began between the two states, producing the following concessions: Firstly, Goryeo formally ended all relations with the Song dynasty, agreed to pay tribute to Liao and to adopt Liao's calendar. Secondly, after negotiations led by the Goryeo diplomat Sŏ Hŭi, Goryeo formally incorporated the land between the border of Liao and Goryeo up to the Yalu River, which was at the time occupied by troublesome Jurchen tribes, citing that in the past the land belonged to Goguryeo. With this agreement, the Liao forces withdrew. However, in spite of the settlement, Goryeo continued to communicate with Song, having strengthened its defenses by building fortresses in the newly gained northern territories.

Second Invasion
In 1009, General Kang Cho of Goryeo led a coup against King Mokjong, killing him and establishing military rule. The Liao dynasty attacked with 400,000 troops in 1010, claiming to avenge the murdered Mokjong. Kang Cho blocked the Liao's first attack, but he was defeated in the second one and was executed. King Hyeonjong of Goryeo was forced to flee the capital, which was sacked and burnt by the Liao, to Naju temporarily. Unable to establish a foothold and to avoid a counterattack by the regrouped Goryeo armies, the Liao forces withdrew. Afterward, the Goryeo king sued for peace, but the Liao emperor demanded that he come in person and also cede key border areas to him; the Goryeo court refused the demands, resulting in a decade of hostility between the two nations, during which both sides fortified their borders in preparation of war. Liao attacked Goryeo in 1015, 1016, and 1017, but the results were indecisive.

Third Invasion
In 1018, Liao assembled an army of 100,000 troops to invade Goryeo. In preparation, General Kang Kam-ch'an ordered a stream to the east of Heunghwajin to be dammed. When the Liao troops crossed the Yalu River, Kang Kam-ch'an opened the dam and attacked the enemy troops with 12,000 mounted troops, catching them by surprise, inflicting severe losses, and cutting off their line of retreat. The Liao troops soldiered on and headed toward the capital, but were met with stiff resistance and constant attacks, and were forced to retreat back north. During the retreat, 10,000 Liao army troops were annihilated by the Goryeo army under Kang Min-cheom of Goryeo. Kang Kam-ch'an and his troops waited at Gwiju and engaged the approaching Liao army, annihilating most of them. Barely a few thousand Liao troops survived after the Battle of Gwiju.

Aftermath
In the next year the Liao assembled another large army in order to launch another invasion but it became clear that neither side could gain a decisive victory. In 1020 King Hyeonjong resumed sending tribute, and in 1022 the Khitans officially recognized the legitimacy of King Hyeonjong's reign. In 1022, a Khitan envoy was sent to invest Hyeongjong as king, and when he died in 1031, his successor Wang Heum was also invested by the Liao court as king. Goryeo broke off relations with Song and the Liao ceded territory around the Yalu to Goryeo. The relationship between Liao and Goryeo would remain peaceful until the end of the Liao dynasty.

In the Goryeo-Liao peace treaty formalized in 1022, the only terms stipulated were that the Goryeo king acknowledge their vassalage to the Liao and to release detained Liao envoys. After 1022, Goryeo did not have diplomatic relations with the Song until 1070, with the exception of an isolated embassy in 1030. The sole embassy was probably related to the rebellion of Balhae people in the Liao dynasty. The rebellion was quickly defeated by the Khitans, who returned to enforce Goryeo's tributary obligations. Goryeo adopted the reign title of the Liao in the fourth month of 1022. However according to Bielenstein, Goryeo maintained diplomatic relations with Song, Hyeonjong kept his own reign title, and the two states concluded peace as equals in 1022.

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Miracle on the Han River

The Miracle on the Han River was the period of rapid economic growth in South Korea, following the Korean War (1950–1953), during which South Korea transformed from a least developed country to a developed country.

The rapid reconstruction and development of the South Korean economy during the latter half of the 20th century was accompanied by events such as the country's hosting of the 1988 Summer Olympics and its co-hosting of the 2002 FIFA World Cup, as well as the ascension of family-owned conglomerates known as chaebols, such as Samsung, LG, and Hyundai. This growth also encompassed declines in child mortality and increases in life expectancy. From 1961 to 1979, child mortality declined by 59%, the second fastest decrease in child mortality of any country with over 10 million inhabitants during the same period. South Korea during this period has been described as "corporatist" or as practicing state capitalism. This period of growth was overseen by the Democratic Republican Party (DRP), a conservative, broadly state capitalist and nationalist party.

The growth has been attributed to the hard work of the labor force. External factors include the enormous economic and technical assistance provided by foreign countries, particularly Japan (see: Treaty on Basic Relations Between Japan and the Republic of Korea) and the United States, access to Western and Japanese markets, and the acquisition of foreign currency by Korean migrant workers in the early stages of economic growth.

Following the Miracle on the Han River, South Korea has been held as an economic model for other developing countries,  and acceded to the G20 international forum of major economic powers in November 2010.

Origin of the phrase
The Han River is a major river which runs through Seoul.

In the early 1960s, South Korean politicians admired what they called the "Miracle on the Rhein": the surprising postwar economic growth of West Germany, which is often called the Wirtschaftswunder ("economic miracle").

In his 1961 New Year's address, Chang Myon, prime minister of the Second Republic of South Korea, used the phrase to encourage South Koreans in achieving a similar economic upturn. He said:

"In order to achieve a so-called "Miracle of the Banks of the Han" comparable to Germany's, we should have austerity and diligence comparable to that of the Germans." In June 1962, General James Van Fleet, who led US forces in Korea during part of the Korean War, gave a speech in Los Angeles entitled "The Miracle on the Han".

Background
Between 1910 and 1945, Korea was annexed and became a part of the Japanese Empire. Partly as a result of Japanese capital investment, especially during the 1930s–1940s, it experienced a phase of moderate industrialization and economic growth. With the start of the Pacific War of World War II, the Korean economy declined when the Japanese mainland exploited Korea economically. By the end of the Pacific War, Korea was one of the poorest regions in the world.

1948–1960: The First Republic and Korean War
The division of territory as a result of the Korean War further damaged Korean property by 25% and resulted in the establishment of the First Republic of South Korea, ruled by the Syngman Rhee administration until 1960. At this time, the economy was largely agricultural. Through the Farmland Reform Act of 1950, the United States Army Military Government in Korea redistributed previously Japanese-owned land, allowing the generation of private funds.

1960–1961: The Second Republic
The Second Republic of South Korea existed for only one year, but had a great effect on economy and history of South Korea through ideology and policy. Prime Minister Chang Myon and the Democratic Party held a stance of extreme anti-communism (as did the First Republic), but also advocated an Economic First Policy with State-led Capitalism, promoting amity and economic cooperation with Japan.

1961–1963: The SCNR
When a military coup in 1961 led by general Park Chung-hee overthrew the Democratic Party, the result was a military junta known as the Supreme Council for National Reconstruction (SCNR). During this time, the first national Five-Year Plan (1962–1966) was implemented, becoming an important factor in the Miracle on the Han River. It aimed to develop the nation's economy through expansion of agriculture and energy industries such as coal and electric power; development of basic industries such as chemical fertilizer, cement, oil refinery, iron, and steel; expansion of social overhead capital including roads, railways, and ports; full utilisation of idle resources including increased employment; conservation and utilisation of land; export promotion to improve the balance of payments; and promotion of science and technology. While this first Five-Year Plan did not bring about an immediately self-reliant economy, it brought a period of growth and modernization in preparation for long-term economic success and policy reform.

Park's motto of "treating employees like family" has been credited with increasing productivity within the South Korean workforce and thus as contributing to the nation's economic success. Park's national reputation as a leader has met mixed receptions: while praised for his contributions to South Korea's economic recovery, contemporary commentators also criticize him for systematic disregard of human rights and media censorship (because of anti-communist sentiment) as part of a military dictatorship. In the one-party regime of the SCNR, the leading party answered to a small constituency of the ruling or military elite, and South Korea's economic restoration was prioritised at the expense of human rights as Park utilized the abundant supply of cheap labor.

At the same time, morality laws established mandatory curfews and regulations on attire and music. In his program of Yushin Kaehyuk (Revitalizing Reforms), he caused Korean cinema to enter into a moribund period considered by many to be the lowest periods in the history of Korean cinema. Park had believed that South Korea was not ready to be a full democratic nation nor a free nation. As he stated, "Democracy cannot be realized without an economic revolution." Park argued that the poverty of the nation would make it vulnerable, and therefore an urgent task was to eliminate poverty rather than establish a democratic nation. During his presidency the Korean Central Intelligence Agency became a much feared institution and the government frequently imprisoned dissenters. Park Chung-hee's rule ended on October 26, 1979 when he was killed by his chief of security services, Kim Jae-gyu.

1963–1972: The Third Republic
During the Third Republic, South Korea received US$800 million from Japan under property claims, and was mostly dependent on foreign aid, largely from the U.S. in exchange for South Korea's involvement in the Vietnam War. The government used this money to accomplish a self-supporting economy, launching the Saemaeul movement in order to develop rural areas. The strong leadership of the government (though criticized as repressive and heavy-handed) as well as the effective use of cheap labor served as catalysts for the growth of the South Korean economy.

1972–1981: The Fourth Republic
During the Fourth Republic, with the government backing heavy industries, electronics and steel industries flourished. Another benefit of government backing was the freedom for leaders in the industrial sector to spend money without feeling constrained by a budget due to the government's commitment to keep the business running. Money subsequently came pouring into the economy as consumer confidence in heavy industries grew.

1981–1997: Market restructuring
By the end of 1995, South Korea had established itself as the eleventh largest economy in the world, in contrast to the bleak economic landscape at the end of the war. However, systemic problems remained within its political and financial systems. Earlier, whenever problems arose that hindered economic development, the junta harassed the wealthy for funding. The junta also gathered a group of high earners, who had attained their wealth due to their corrupt relations with Syngman Rhee. These people were known as the "illicit profiteers".

Financial troubles mounted as Korea received short term relief from the United States when Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and other senior officials agreed to a US$57 billion bailout package in exchange for drastic restructuring of Korea's markets. As the country came under pressure to restructure the financial sector and make it more transparent, market-oriented, and better supervised, its firms were obliged to restructure in a way that would allow international organizations to audit them.

Around December 1996, President Kim Young-Sam announced that South Korea had gained recognition for its economy by joining the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, consisting of top industrial nations. President Kim then created a new labor law that retained the Federation of Korean Trade Unions, a large, state-controlled trade union, as the only officially approved labor organization for five more years, leaving the independent Korean Confederation of Trade Unions out in the cold.

1997–1999: Currency crisis
In 1997, South Korea faced widespread economic disaster in the form of the East Asian financial crisis. The country's reserves were severely limited at US$6 billion, the majority of which was allocated for spending in the upcoming term. Kim Young-sam, the first nonmilitary President in thirty years, failed to protect the economy at the time, and President Kim Dae-jung (1998–2003) took over the office with considerable damage to repair. The new President was openly opposed to the chaebol and the financial and governmental system of the time, and his election along with the efforts of the citizens and US$58 billion put together by the International Monetary Fund, the country paid its debts and surmounted the problem. Thus, South Korea's financial crisis was severe, but relatively brief compared to other countries which experienced similar situations.

Dominance of chaebol groups in Korean economy
Chaebol refers to corporate groups in South Korea, mainly run by families, that exercise monopolist or oligopolist control over product lines and industries. They can be compared with conglomerates of the United States and the zaibatsu of Japan. During the industrialization period of South Korea, President Park Chung-hee supported the rise of chaebol groups, facilitating the growth of these groups in order to trigger economic growth. Inside the operations of chaebol groups, there are many branches that family members control and operate. Every Korean chaebol business was started by a family group and 70 percent of chaebol are still managed by family members, and in order for the power and standing of these groups to grow stronger, many chaebol form alliances through marriage, with examples including Samsung and Hyundai. Many political affiliations are formed within chaebol groups. One-third of chaebol occupy high-ranking offices in three branches of the government. The chaebol, tired of new generals coming in and seizing their property or directing them to invest in favored industries, moved in the same direction as the middle class—toward democratic elections and the rule of law.

According to George E. Ogle, ten chaebol families were responsible for 60 percent of the growth of the South Korean economy during the Miracle on the Han River. With the help of governmental help and associations, chaebols are still an enormous influence on the Korean economy, though they are also accused of inhibiting small businesses or independent entrepreneurship as unethical behavior and corrupt practices. The Kim Young-sam government attempted to assist small businesses during its five-year term from 1993 to 1998 by providing more loans, but this did not deter the expansion of the chaebols. In 1992, Korea received the maximum rating of 100 on both wage rates and tax burdens or lack thereof (with Spain the next highest at 71, and the United States third at 55). In other words, the Korean state still fosters huge profits and other rewards for its large business conglomerates.

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I don't know if the stairs bit is notable for Clarendon specifically. Let me explain what I mean...

Metro is a little weird with its use of actual stairs. The newest stations all have them, in addition to escalators. The older stations have them somewhat sporadically. Capitol South, for instance, also has stairs from street to mezzanine, but it's far deeper than Clarendon. Then Waterfront-SEU has stairs from the mezzanine to the platform.

How this should be treated, I'm not sure, but I think discussion of Metro's use of stairs belongs as a section of Washington Metro vs. here. SchuminWeb (Talk) 15:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Off topic, but I had no clue Capitol South had stairs. I used that station for 3 years, but I lived on the south side of it, so I took the elevator every single day. (And it broke once and I had to crawl out while the elevator was still 5 feet above the ground : --Golbez 15:27, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Yep... three escalators, and a set of stairs. SchuminWeb (Talk) 16:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

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Ellegarden (stylized as ELLEGARDEN and abbreviated Elle (エルレ) ) is a Japanese rock band formed in December 1998 in Chiba Prefecture. Its lineup consists of vocalist/guitarist Takeshi Hosomi, guitarist Shinichi Ubukata, bassist Yuichi Takada, and drummer Hirotaka Takahashi. After releasing five studio albums, including the Oricon number one Eleven Fire Crackers (2006), the band announced an indefinite hiatus in 2008. In May 2018, Ellegarden announced a reunion and held their first national tour in 10 years.

History
In the fall of 2001, Ellegarden signed with the Japanese Dynamord label, and released their first EP, Bare Foot, with a full-length album, Don't Trust Anyone But Us, following in the spring of 2002. The album was a hit, and Ellegarden followed with a new LP every year. In 2004, they took part in the Synchronized Rockers tribute album to The Pillows. 2006's Eleven Fire Crackers became the band's first to reach number one on the Oricon Albums Chart. It also became their first North American release when it was issued by Nettwerk in 2007. Accustomed to playing major shows in Japan, where they shared stages with the Foo Fighters and Sum 41, Ellegarden made their American live debut in 2006 with a seven-city tour as part of Japan Nite, which included a stop at the South by Southwest Music Conference.

In 2006, Ellegarden performed in numerous Japanese Summer Music Festivals, such as Fuji Rock, Summer Sonic, Nano Mugen Festival and Rising Sun Rock Festival. Their final tour of the year featured the American band Allister, who they became acquainted with during South by Southwest. In addition, they supported Foo Fighters in their concert at Osaka Castle Hall.

On May 2, 2008, the band announced they would be going on hiatus with a message on their official website:

"'Ellegarden has been in the process of creating a new album since last year, however, during the band’s activities, there arose a difference in opinion regarding the motivation for creating a new album. We no longer feel we are able to create an album that we would be satisfied with, and after much discussion we arrived at the conclusion to end the creation of the album and suspend the band’s activities indefinitely. All previously decided shows (including shows not yet announced) up until early September 2008 will still be performed.

We want to thank everyone who has supported Ellegarden from the bottom of our hearts. In order to once again create new music as Ellegarden, each of us wants to work on our own personal growth and development. Thank you for everything.' – Ellegarden leader, Shinichi Ubukata"

Following the recording hiatus announcement, the band has continued to perform live and announced a greatest hits album entitled Ellegarden Best (1999-2008). The album consists of 21 songs and was released on July 2, 2008. After appearances at several high-profile festivals (including Rock in Japan Fest, Sky Jamboree, Nano Mugen Fes, and Treasure 05x: The Greatest Riot Returns), the band performed four one-man shows in early September to give its fans a send-off before the hiatus; two performances at Zepp Osaka followed by two performances at Shinkiba Studio Coast in Tokyo.

In 2018, Ellegarden announced their first tour in 10 years, ending their hiatus. The tour, titled The Boys are Back in Town, kicked off in August 2018 at Shinkiba Studio Coast, the same venue as their send-off concert. In 2020, the group had announced scheduled performances at several music festivals in Japan, but most of them had been cancelled or postponed due to effects of the COVID-19 pandemic.

In September 2022, Ellegarden released the single "Mountain Top". In December 2022, they released their first full-length album in 16 years, The End of Yesterday.

Musical style
Mark Deming of AllMusic found Ellegarden's "tight, punchy but muscular sound" reminiscent of North American bands such as Blink-182, Sum 41 and Good Charlotte, while also displaying the influence of Hosomi's favorites, Weezer. Their lyrics are in Japanese and English. In the Summer 2006 issue of the American Japanese rock magazine Purple Sky, Hosomi accredited his articulate English pronunciation to the time he spent working as a computer engineer in Oakland, California and later in Japan, where he had English-speaking co-workers.

Band members

 * Takeshi Hosomi (細美 武士) – vocalist, rhythm guitarist
 * Hosomi is the main songwriter and writes almost all the lyrics and music.
 * In 2008, he became active as a solo artist and formed the band The Hiatus.
 * Shinichi Ubukata (生形 真一) – lead guitarist, backing vocals
 * Ubukata is the leader of Ellegarden.
 * He formed the band Nothing's Carved in Stone in 2009.
 * Yuichi Takada (高田 雄一) – bassist, backing vocals
 * Takada is also a member of the bands Meaning and the End, the latter with former BiS member Yukiko "UK" Nakayama.
 * Hirotaka Takahashi (高橋 宏貴) – drummer, backing vocals
 * Takahashi formed the band Scars Borough in 2009 and joined The Predators in 2010.

Equipment

 * Takeshi Hosomi (vocal & guitar)
 * Gibson Les Paul Std./ Gibson Historic Collection 1956 Les Paul Gold Top
 * Diezel Herbert/ Marshall JCM-800
 * Shinichi Ubukata (guitar & chorus)
 * Gibson ES-355 (with no Varitone control)/Gibson Shinichi Ubukata ES-355.
 * VHT. Pittbull Hundred CLX/ Marshall JMP 2203
 * Yuichi Takada (bass & chorus)
 * Fender Precision Bass/ Ampeg SVT-810 E
 * Hirotaka Takahashi (drums & chorus)
 * Ludwig Classic Maple Drum Set/ SD Gretsch G4160
 * Paiste 2002 Series/ Stick Pearl Standard Hickory 190 STH

Tours
Dates shown are announcement dates

 * First tour (August 2002) – 20 stop tour through Japan
 * My Own Destruction Tour (October 16, 2002) – 30 stops in Japan to promote album of same name
 * Bring Your Board!! Tour (July 10, 2003) – 25 stops in Japan with one extra live performance
 * Jitterbug Live Tour (November 12, 2003)
 * Pepperoni Quattro Tour (June 12, 2004) – toured 19 cities in Japan
 * Bad for Education Tour 2004 (November 2, 2004) – 15 cities
 * Riot on the Grill Tour (May 5, 2005) – 39 stops
 * Space Sonic Tour 2005–2006 (December 3, 2005) – 36 stops
 * Japan Nite Tour 2006 (January 16, 2006) – first US tour with appearance at SXSW followed by 7 cities
 * Ellegarden Tour 2006–2007 (October 12, 2006) – 54 stops, first half featuring Allister
 * Supporting act for Foo Fighters (December 5, 2006) – Osaka Castle Hall
 * Ellegarden Tour 2007 (June 10, 2007) – 31 stops in Japan
 * First Korean show at Melon AX (October 7, 2007)
 * The Boys are Back in Town Tour 2018 (May 10, 2018) – 3 stops in Japan to promote return, guest act One Ok Rock
 * Nana-Iro Electric Tour 2019 – 3 stop reunion tour with Asian Kung-Fu Generation and Straightener

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Is this a good article to note that the surrounding area is in development and give details or is there another article that would handle it better?Killemall22 (talk) 18:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

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John Carter Hensley (born August 29, 1977) is an American actor, best known for his role as Matt McNamara on Nip/Tuck.

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Robert D. Bailey Sr.

Robert Darias Bailey Sr. (July 26, 1883 – October 24, 1961), better known as R. D. Bailey or "Judge Bailey," was a Democratic politician in West Virginia.

Bailey was a lawyer who represented timber and railroad companies before he was elected judge, then a part-time position. He presided over the trials of the coal miners involved in the Battle of Matewan, the events of which are depicted in the movie Matewan. His diaries and notes formed the basis for the movie script.

He was appointed by Governor Matthew M. Neely to serve the remaining two years of Ward Wylie's term in the West Virginia Senate after Wylie resigned to enter military service in World War II. He later served for a time on the West Virginia Board of Education and as chair of the West Virginia Democratic Party. In 1928 and 1948, he ran for governor but lost the primary election on both occasions. He died in 1961.

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Similarities to Warning
Anyone else notice the package art for BIAB is incredibly similar to that of Warning, and should that be mentioned?
 * How so? Underwater 14:07, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey. I don't think it needs to be mentioned...it doesn't really have that much of an impact on the group does it?

The same symbol is used. (the dude getting hit by lightning) i think it should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenday21 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Other features
The article doesn't seem to mention extras included on BIAB.

 * thats because there were barely any.

 * There was at least one; the photo reel with the instrumental version of Boulevard of Broken Dreams. Should that be included? --Thatguykalem (talk) 06:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

LOL
No man can eat 50 eggs! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.197.178.106 (talk) 20:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

It was also funny that Tr'e tried to snort sprinkeles--71.183.217.40 (talk) 04:50, 9 March 2008 (UTC)greenday21

Criticisms of the event
why was this part of the article removed? Does anybody know? I know it doesnt relate to the dvd release itself, but is surely still relevant? Bigwiver (talk) 21:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

On the green day page, it is critiscised for what they did in the dvd.--71.183.217.40 (talk) 04:38, 9 March 2008 (UTC)greenday21

Omitted Songs
I seem to remember that there was a list of songs omitted from the album and the DVD. Anybody know where that list went? I think that it should still be in the article. What do you guys think? --Thatguykalem (talk) 06:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

When I Come Around?
When I Come Around was not played at any of the two shows, and there was no source for it, so i removed it. --Chickenguy12 (talk) 10:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Adding omitted songs to track listing
Why does someone keep adding the omitted songs to the track list? i think it's better to have a section for them instead of adding them to the track list and just putting (not shown) next to them, somebody please stop changing it. --Chickenguy13 (talk) 08:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I strongly agree. It's silly. It's a track listing for a live album, not a concert setlist.--90.212.181.118 (talk) 17:54, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, exactly. --Chickenguy13 (talk) 10:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Unless you can reliably source the original set list, then it cannot be included. Nouse4aname (talk) 14:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

There are audience recordings of them on YouTube, ect. There's concert reviews, so i re-added them, and please do not remove them again. --Chickenguy13 (talk) 01:05, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * YouTube videos do not prove anything. They are not considered reliable sources. Find a review by Rolling Stone, NME, MTV etc and you may be getting somewhere, as it is, the set list remains unreferenced. As for the greendayvideos website, then it is just laughable if you think that is considered a reliable source. It is a fan site, and is in no way suitable for referincing the material. Seriously, what is so hard to understand about sourcing the material properly? Nouse4aname (talk) 12:05, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

YouTube videos don't prove anything? So if there's videographic proof that something happened, it doesn't mean it did? I guess we can go delete all the instances of articles having sections for music videos since there's no proof they actually exist. 24.255.38.190 (talk) 20:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

 * Omitted songs do not belong in a tracklist because they are not part of the album. This is not a setlist of Green Day's performance, it is a tracklist of the album. It's typical for a live album not to include every single song an artist performed at the concert(s) where the album was recorded, since a CD has only ~80 minutes of playing time. This is hardly noteworthy. --IllaZilla (talk) 21:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

 * I understand that they don't belong in a track listing, but they should at least get a mention under a separate section. I remember a time when another section was edited in and I was like, "Hey, that's a nice addition". 24.255.38.190 (talk) 04:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

@Nouse4aname Personally, I think how you are speaking to Chickenguy13 is rather rude. You do not need to act like he is "stupid". Saying that he is "laughable" if he thinks greendayvideos.com is a "reliable" source is very rude. He is trying is best to reference it and saying things like that to him is going to do nothing but "chase" him off of the article and start an argument. How would you like it if you were not as experienced with Wikipedia and tried your best to reference something and someone said you were "laughable", would not that hurt your feelings? I understand what you mean by YouTube not being a reliable source, because anybody could just make a video and upload it and it could be inaccurate, but it is incorrect to say that videos "do not prove anything". And in some instances, Rolling Stone or whatever other places you mentioned as a "reliable" source, they are not always correct. I have seen Rolling Stone write some things that are incorrect. I am not saying that what you named is not "reliable", but acting like you will not belive something unless Rolling Stone or whatever writes it is, in my opinion, not a good idea. And by the way, on the Bullet in a Bible DVD, the setlist is visible at one point, and "Jaded", "Knowledge", "She" and "Homecoming" are on it. That is a reliable source, and should be considered one. --BLAguyMONKEY! (talk) 23:59, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

@24.255.38.190 I thought that was a good edition too, but editors kept removing it. The omitted songs should not go in the track listing, but I do think that there should be a seperate section for them or at least a mention somewhere in this article. --BLAguyMONKEY! (talk) 23:59, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

 * This conversation is 8 months old, it's long over. The problem with "omitted songs" is that the information is (A) hard to reliably source, and (B) not very relevant. As I said back in January, most live albums don't include all of the songs performed at the concerts they were recorded at because the average CD only holds between 60 and 80 minutes of music. This is especially the case here, where the album is culled from 2 concerts (and it's not guaranteed that the setlist was identical at both concerts). If there were reliably-sourced content about what songs they left out and why (ie. something about the process of creating the album and editing the 2 concerts down to 1 CD), then that'd be something. But I doubt such sources exist; I haven't seen anything about how they went about creating this album other than the dates & locations of the concerts. There's usually more to the story of creating a live album than the soundboard guy simply hitting record: There's how they decided on the setlist, how they captured the sound of the crowd on record (there are several ways this is usually done), how they mixed and edited it, etc. And since this album also includes a DVD, there could be info on how they filmed it (how many cameras, what kind of filming technology, what angles it was shot from, how they lit it), the visual aspects of the concert (what was the stage show like? Was there a video component? Did they dress a certain way? etc.), and of course creating the actual DVD (editing, menus, packaging). These are all the kind of behind-the-scenes, making-of details that, if reliably sourced, would be very welcome. However, simply tacking on a list of "omitted songs" doesn't add much in the way of informational value. --IllaZilla (talk) 05:02, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

@IllaZilla Sorry, I was not playing attention to the dates. Now I feel stupid. --BLAguyMONKEY! (talk) 08:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

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Jarcrew was a five-piece dance-punk band from Ammanford, Wales. They were a relatively well known underground band (Jarcrew never enjoyed mainstream success) for approximately five years between 2000 and their early 2005 split. They played a bizarre mixture of electronica/house and prog-rock/punk/funk that baffled audiences up and down the UK (despite their somewhat unapproachable commercial nature they were offered some very lucrative support slots, including an elusive support for Scots rockers Biffy Clyro). Since disbanding, several Jarcrew off-shoots have emerged, most notably Future of the Left, a band that contained Jarcrew frontman Kelson alongside ex-mclusky members Andrew Falkous and Jack Egglestone. In 2014, the band reformed for a charity fundraiser and have since made a number of other appearances.

Formation and commercial releases
Starting in a Welsh mining town, Jarcrew qualified for assistance under the Community Music Wales scheme (a system established to assist bands coming out of Wales, be it with monetary support or the release of a record to start a band off on the right track). In 2001, they released their first single, "Paris and The New Math" on Complete Control Music (Community Music Wales' record label, the same label that was responsible for the first People in Planes release back when they were known as Robots in the Sky) soon followed by the band's debut album Breakdance Euphoria Kids (a line from track 8 of Breakdance Euphoria Kids, "Money Shot") and the single "Capobaby". The album wound up in the hands of Gut Records who offered to remaster the recording (as it was deemed too acerbic and not radio friendly enough for general release). Only half the album was eventually remixed, with the original recordings being used for the rest of the album and single. The band agreed to this and with that, they were signed to a national label and were touring up and down the country, as well as providing radio sessions to the likes of BBC and XFM in London (the latter of which can still be found on the XFM website).

Breakup
19 December 2004 saw the band's final show (with support from People in Planes in a small venue in Cardiff) and early 2005 saw the promise of a new album, which the band assured the world was completely written and ready to be recorded (which was evident from the amount of unfamiliar material the band threw into their set from as early as 2003, shortly after their first – and last – album was remixed and re-released by Gut Records). Hot on the heels of this news came the news that Jarcrew had disbanded. No official reason was cited; most commonly cited is that the band split due to Rhodri Thomas becoming a fully-fledged Jehovah's Witness.

Other projects
While rumours of a forthcoming reformation persisted, Kelson (along with final Jarcrew bassist, Hywel "Ricardo" Evans) most notably assumed the bass duties in Future of the Left with former mclusky members Andrew 'Falco' Falkous and Jack Egglestone. Mathias vacated the position in 2010, and assumed the bass duties in Hywel "Ricardo" Evans' group, Truckers of Husk (along with two additional former Jarcrew members, Rich Williams and Rhod Thomas). In December 2010, Kelson and Hywel appeared on Bethan Elfyn's Radio 1 Introducing show to discuss the band, play a previously unheard demo from the unreleased second album ("Hello Monster"), and hinted at the possibility of a reunion. At a 2012 Truckers of Husk show in Cardiff's Clwb Ifor Bach, the one missing Jarcrew member (Tom Clark) joined the group onstage for a brief, unpublicised reunion (ending the show with two Jarcrew mainstays, Paris & The New Math and Sad French Death Metal). This was the first time Jarcrew have performed publicly in over seven years.

Reformation
On 26 August 2014, Newport's Le Pub venue, which is facing closure, announced via Twitter that Jarcrew would be reforming for a one-off show supporting 'Mclusky' (mclusky's Andrew Falkous and Jack Egglestone, with Million Dead/Future of the Left bassist Julia Ruzicka filling in for original bassist Jon Chapple) on Saturday 8 November. All proceeds generated from ticket sales would go towards the £10,000 goal which would pay to soundproof the venue and keep it in business. Mclusky and Jarcrew performed again a week later in Cardiff's Clwb Ifor Bach, for the same cause. They have since performed sporadic one-off shows around Cardiff.

Band members
At their commercial peak around about 2003, the band consisted of:
 * Kelson Mathias – Vocals, keyboards/synthesizers
 * Rhodri Thomas – Drums, vocals
 * Rich Williams – Guitar
 * Tom Clark – Guitar
 * Ben Milner – Bass and vocals

However, in 2004 the band saw fit to part ways with Milner – not long before an impending tour (Williams and Clark split the bass duties and sometimes left the bass out completely). In the few shows the band did towards the end of their career, session musicians and bassists from other bands were employed. A man introduced as "Ricardo" – who, according to Kelson, did not speak a word of English but was "fluent in the language of rock" – was the band's bassist for their appearance at the 2004 Compass Point Festival in Cardiff (this later turned out to be Hywel Evans, who would remain Jarcrew's bass player up until their split in 2005, and later went on to form an instrumental rock band called Truckers of Husk – he was also credited as a songwriter on an early Future of the Left track, entitled "The Fibre Provider"). The band claim the split with Milner was amicable; Milner asserted at the time that he was ejected against his will (he did so publicly via the medium of several well-read e-zines, such as Jarcrew champions Drowned in Sound). Both Milner and Evans appeared onstage at the 2014 reunion shows, and the subsequent 2015 shows.

Discography

 * "Paris and The New Math" (single, 13 May 2002, Complete Control Music)
 * Breakdance Euphoria Kids (album, 27 June 2002, Complete Control Music)
 * "Capobaby" (single, 16 September 2002, Complete Control Music)
 * "Paris and The New Math" (single, 20 October 2003, Gut Records)
 * Jarcrew (album, 3 November 2003, Gut Records)

The band also featured on a number of compilations, including the Fierce Panda Records compilation The Squirrel EP, which was released on CD and a set of 7" vinyl records. Also featured were fellow Welshmen Funeral for a Friend, plus Million Dead, The Copperpot Journals, Engerica and thisGIRL.

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