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Talk:Kip Thorne

Nobel Prize Medal?
Isn't this page missing a nobel prize medal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Åke Lindblom (talk • contribs) 01:13, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Warpage and the quantum
What is "warpage and the quantum" supposed to mean in this article? --Constantine Evans 03:51, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * The above question is an example of "wide-eyed optimism." It assumes that the person who used the phrase "warpage and the quantum" actually had an interest in communicating an idea to another person. Most likely, this hieratic pronouncement was meant to amaze and impress. Professor Thorne learned the technique from Professor Wheeler, who appears to derive much amusement from such assertions. "Warpage and the quantum" is meant to be stated with a condescending smile. If anyone presumes to ask its meaning, a perfect silence follows.152.163.101.9 13:41, 16 November 2005 (UTC)PythagoreanBrotherhood

 * Exactly how many documented instances do you have of said resultant Perfect Silence? I personally have never been condescended to in such a manner by Thorne, Wheeler, or any professional physicist. In my experience, Wheeler never resorted to obfuscation. What he did do was invent idioms to encode a lot of information in tractable packages. For the most part, physicists of my acquaintance tend to be eager to teach and generous with their time in doing so.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.223.130.32 (talk) 18:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

 * This is an incredibly late reply, but I would like to note that my question was not intended as wide-eyed optimism, but as skepticism. "Warpage and the quantum" doesn't make sense to me. I've never heard Kip say this, and have only heard one sane person use "warpage" (somone with LIGO, if I recall). I've removed it until someone can come up with a way to explain it. --Constantine Evans 07:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Real name
I was just reading the history of this Article, and it would seem that the name had been frequently changed from Kip S Thorne to Kip Dent. Has Kip ever been known as the latter? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WASTREL (talk • contribs) 17:44, 11 February 2006 (UTC).

 * I don't think so. That name change occurred just once, earlier this week, and was part of a vandalism spree. Also notice that the Kip Dent move was followed by a second move to an obviously absurd name. ×Meegs 18:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Mr.Thorne
Thank you meegs; that is very helpful. But why would somebody want to vandalise Mr. Thorne? Anyway, I was also wondering whether what is said about Mr. Thorne being the first person to conduct research on time travel was true? Surely that has been something that man has looked into scientifically for hundreds, if not thousands of years? WASTREL 14:32, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

...Why would someone want to vandalise Mr. Thorne? - mmmmmm ...and this is a very speculative answer... If Mr/Dr Thorne was the first person to conduct R&D into time travel then his "Wiki" page would be an obvious target for malicious edits from the future (if he is successful). The fact that Wiki sites relating to time travel are not vandalised as soon as (or before) they are first put up, suggests something (I'm not sure what). Personally, I think he looks like Louis Wu (which is more worrying). 86.165.105.7 (talk) 22:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
I removed the following content from the article. It is trivia without sources and of dubious value and accuracy. Please refer to WP:BLP for Wikipedia policy on biographies of living persons. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * A tale revealing of his brilliance: In the middle of a Caltech presentation entitled Einstein and the Astronomers: Testing Relativity 1914-1933, Kip Thorne was called upon to check the accuracy of a figure concerning the famed orbital anomaly (i.e., the precession of the perihelion) of Mercury that had baffled astronomers until Einstein provided an explanation. He quickly provided the solution on a manila folder, stating "it's 43 seconds of arc per century, not 0.43", and deconstructed the parlor trick he employed in a way that would make sense to only a few people on the planet.
 * One of Thorne's greatest mentors has been John Wheeler. It was because of Wheeler that Thorne became so well known throughout the world.
 * Kip Thorne knew Richard Feynman, another famous student of John Wheeler, and idolizes Albert Einstein, "the patron saint of relativity".

Lapsed Mormon
The infobox says he is a "lapsed Mormon". I find this rather oxymoronic, if he used to be a Mormon but "lapsed" out of it, why call him a Mormon? Or is he a practicing Mormon, but somehow not quite up to the standards, or what? Or is it that he simply grew up in a Mormon family? In any case, "lapsed Mormon" makes little sense to me. If there will be no objections, I'll remove it in a while. If anyone knows what his religious affiliation is or whether he has any, please fill it in. Naphra 19:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Removed. (Forgot to log in, though.) Naphra 01:22, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

 * In his book Black Holes and Time Warps, Thorne states, "I had had a simple and supportive early life--born and reared in a large, tightly knit Mormon family in Logan, Utah"(p.267). A footnote adds "In the late 1980s, at my mother's suggestion, the entire family requested excommunication from the Mormon Church in response to the Church's suppression of the rights of women" (ibid). So he does have Mormon roots (not to mention that Logan, Utah has a lot of Mormons).  If he was baptized -- like most Mormon children -- at age 8, then he had been a member of the LDS church for 32 years in 1980.  Whether he was involved with church meetings or other activities (either before or after 1980) is not made clear in the book, other than the fact that he uses the term "Mormon family."

 * Another note: from what I understand, you can't actually request to be "excommunicated" from the LDS church. Excommunication is administered by church leaders, typically with practicing members of the church who transgress a major spiritual law (such as adultery).  Most likely the family requested that their names be "removed from church records," without any kind of ecclesiastical judgment (I've never heard of a family being excommunicated, only individuals).  However, the fact that Thorne uses the term as such in his book suggests that the family was not very active with church activities, at least by 1980.  --Begeun (talk) 01:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Interstellar
In the current article, there's a section devoted to an upcoming film adaptation of Kip Thorne's works on Black Holes. The film adaptation in question is Interstellar to be directed by Christopher Nolan for Warner Bros. and Paramount Films. As of now, the film has a release date of November 7, 2014 with casting discussions in place. Instead of posting all information about that movie in this section, isn't it better to start a new article named Interstellar (film)? I know that information on the film is scarce at the moment but its only a matter of time before more information becomes available. --KrazzyDJ (talk) 15:09, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Black hole cosmology
Does Kip Thorne's Hoop Conjecture disprove or contradict naked singularities? I find the phrase "cast aside the thought" unnecessarily ambiguous. Ceaseless (talk) 07:56, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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Merger discussion
If the information in the article below is notable it should be merged into this article, there is not a particular reason I can see for it to be a standalone article. Phil (talk) 02:15, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Removed Merge proposal tag from the talk page since it is properly placed on the article as well. Operator873 CONNECT 05:10, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Support: I have no idea what Kip Thorne bet numerical relativitsts is, but it certainly isn't a proper article. Loooke (talk) 12:05, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Independent article inspired in Thorne–Hawking–Preskill bet or Scientific wager, but merging in a Kip Thorne bio subsection is also OK. Also good idea to merge into numerical relativity page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colwikicol (talk • contribs) 01:27, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Merge sounds like a good idea, as not much would ever be written on the topic. Numerical relativity could mention it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:42, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Merge, preferably to Scientific wager. Worth mentioning at the Kip Thorne article, but I'd redir to the Scientific wager page and tag with . --Slashme (talk) 16:13, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Speedy merge This is not a proper article. This doesn't look like something that can be expanded into a standalone article. Optakeover (U)(T)(C) 12:54, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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original text: He continues to do scientific research and scientific consulting, most notably for the Christopher Nolan film Interstellar.[4][5]

The Interstellar is an old film, so we should keep all the information, but write it in a better form.

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Gateway to the Savage Frontier

Gateway to the Savage Frontier (1991) is a Gold Box Dungeons & Dragons computer game developed by Beyond Software and published by SSI for the Commodore 64, PC and Amiga personal computers.

Development
When SSI began work on the Dark Sun game engine in 1989 after the completion of Secret of the Silver Blades, they passed responsibility for continuing the Forgotten Realms Gold Box games to Beyond Software. Designers Don Daglow, Mark Buchignani, David Bunnett, Arturo Sinclair and Mark Manyen set the action for the game in an area of the Forgotten Realms that TSR had labeled The Savage Frontier, north of Waterdeep and south of Luskan along the Sword Coast. The area was far to the west of the region that hosted the action for Pool of Radiance and its sequels.

One of the major locations in the Savage Frontier, Neverwinter, spun off a new chapter. Beyond Software gained the support of AOL executive Steve Case to create the first-ever graphical MMORPG, and to base it on the Gold Box engine. To leverage the existing game and cross-promote the titles, Daglow based the new MMORPG in Neverwinter and named it Neverwinter Nights.

The game's principal technical enhancement to the aging Gold Box engine was the addition of wilderness play, where the party traveled long distances on the map while following the basic D&D rules for combat with wandering monsters.

The game also featured character-specific side-quests, with two NPCs who can open these optional missions. The side quests in turn open different endings for the game.

The game spawned one sequel, Treasures of the Savage Frontier (1992).

Plot overview
The game revolves around a standard (for Gold Box adventures) party of six adventurers who inadvertently get caught up in a plot by the Zhentarim to conquer the entire Frontier area.

The storyline, in rough terms, follows:
 * The party starts off in Yartar, having just escorted a caravan from the dwarven stronghold Citadel Adbar (ruled by the dwarf king Harbromm). At the tavern, while the party is enjoying the feast and spirits, something is slipped into their food that causes them to pass out, and they are robbed of all gold and gear, especially the magic longsword that one member used to slay a griffon at Longsaddle. However, each character has a purse of coins under their pillow so they can buy armor and weapons.
 * Through rescuing the NPC Krevish, the party being hired by the Kraken in Yartar to assassinate a cleric of Bane at Nesme, only to discover that this evil priest was the only individual standing in the way of the conquest.
 * Rescuing the magic user Amelior Amanitas from Everlund, an eccentric and somewhat absent-minded wizard who explains how to stop the Zhentarim. Returning to Yartar, the party is captured and imprisoned in a Kraken base below the city. There, the magic longsword stolen at the start is recovered but the party has to fight four giant squid in a huge tank before escaping.
 * Finding four magical statues scattered across the frontier before the Zhentarim, led by a General Vaalgamon, gets to them.
 * Traveling to the dead city of Ascore to end the Zhentarim plot.

Basically, Zhentil Keep plans to use these magical statues to open a way through an otherwise-unpassable desert for their armies. If successful, the party is hailed as the "Heroes of Ascore", which is carried over into the sequel.

Reception
SSI sold 62,581 copies of Gateway to the Savage Frontier. The title was the #1 selling MS-DOS game in North America in August 1991.

The game was reviewed in 1992 in Dragon #177 by Hartley, Patricia, and Kirk Lesser in "The Role of Computers" column. The reviewers gave the game 4 out of 5 stars. Scorpia of Computer Gaming World in 1993 called Gateway to the Savage Frontier "standard Gold Box fare ... you've played this many times before".

According to GameSpy, "it was a polished revision of what the early games in the Gold Box series were like, and felt very welcome, to those who'd gotten a bit weary of the far-flung conventions of its most recent installments".

Reviews

 * Zzap! (December 1991)
 * ASM (Aktueller Software Markt) (October 1991)
 * Amiga Mania (June 1992)
 * Commodore Format (December 1991)
 * ASM (Aktueller Software Markt) (April 1992)
 * Joker Verlag präsentiert: Sonderheft (1992)
 * Amiga Joker (April 1992)
 * Amiga Action (May 1992)
 * Amiga Format (May 1992)

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Talk:Plautus

Epitaph
Not sure whether there's a good solution to this, but the use of a sans-serif capital "I" in "Iocus" ("humor," "joke," or similar) makes the word look a lot like "locus" ("place"). Not sure how many other people are testing their Latin retention by screwing around on Wikipedia, but that makes it difficult to translate the sentence accurately.72.68.108.107 (talk) 22:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Untitled
I changed the bit saying that plautus undermines our conceptions of master-slave relationships in the roman world. Comedies which reverse the social order are not rare things. Today or in the past. look at the Lysistrata. And, I think, by reversing the social order so completely, it's an affirmation of it. Otherwise, it wouldn't be strange or funny. This is why I think the original intepretation was misleading.

Tone and POV
A lot of this sounds more like an essay on Plautus than an article. For example, "Plautus was known for the use of Greek style in his plays. This has been a point of contention among modern scholars. One argument states that Plautus writes with originality and creativity—the other, that Plautus is a copycat of Greek New Comedy and that he makes no original contribution to playwriting. The reality lies in the middle of these two arguments." That's not *entirely* neutral, and it certainly isn't something an encyclopedia would say. --Nathan

It's a dreadfully written article. --Hiereios — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.0.68 (talk) 22:03, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Varrus
Should the article mention Varrus and his Varronian canon? The fact that Plautus was very popular and had a lot of counterfeit plays with his namesake floating around is pretty important in my opinion. Varrus was an Augustan scholar who studied Plautus' plays and made the Varronian Canon which was 3 lists.

1. Everyone agrees it's by Plautus -> 21 plays

2. Other scholars say it's not by Plautus, Varrus says it is

3. Other scholars say it is by Plautus, Varrus says it is not

 * First of all, it is not "Varrus", it is "Varro", and he wasn't an Augustan scholar. You seem to have mixed up M. Terentius Varro, a Republican scholar, and his canon of 21 Plautus' plays, with M. Verrius Flaccus, a known scholar of Augustan period. Please verify this in your sources. 82.210.159.30 16:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Bawdiness not covered
This notorious aspect of Plautus needs to be covered in the article.--BMF81 16:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

some sources:
 * George Fredric Franko Imagery and Names in Plautus' "Casina" The Classical Journal, Vol. 95, No. 1 (Oct. - Nov., 1999), pp. 1-17
 * Catherine Connors Scents and Sensibility in Plautus' Casina The Classical Quarterly, New Series, Vol. 47, No. 1 (1997), pp. 305-309
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 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
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 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
 * 1) It is stable.
 * 2) It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
 * a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
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This is going to contain some criticisms, so I'd better start by saying that this is a fine article in many ways; the attention given to modern scholarship is probably the best I've seen in Wikipedia's treatment of any ancient author. I feel I've learnt things by reading it. But I think there are significant problems, which I set out below using the Good Article criteria.

 * 1a. The prose is generally comprehensible, and I think the article is probably passable on this criterion. However, there are some patches of ambiguity. When "many of [Plautus' characters] seem to crop up in quite a few of his plays", is it individual characters who recur, or types? (In the same sentence, "seem to" and "quite a few" are vague.) Also, some topics receive introductions that add no content. These should be cut; e.g., "William S. Anderson discusses the believability of Menander versus the believability of Plautus and, in essence, says that Plautus’ plays are much less believable than those plays of Menander", " There are certain ways in which Plautus expressed himself in his plays, and these individual means of expression give a certain flair to his style of writing. The means of expression are not always specific to the writer, i.e., idiosyncratic, yet they are characteristic of the writer. The two examples of these Two characteristic means of expression in the plays of Plautus are the use of proverbs and the use of Greek language in the plays of Plautus ." Similarly, there are too many "it is important to note"-type statements, and there's no need to name scholarly articles in the text as well as the footnotes.
 * 1b. The lead section should summarise the article per Lead section. Some topics are treated in inappropriate sections; e.g., the first sentence of "Father-Son Relationships", and the treatment of puns under "Prologues".
 * 1c. Per Manual of Style, punctuation belongs outside quotations of which it isn't part. There's an unclosed quotation at the end of "Understanding of Greek". In headings, capitalise only the first word and avoid restating the article title. The "Footnotes" and "Works Cited" sections are misnamed per WP:HEAD. First-person statements like "I compiled this short list" should be avoided.
 * 1d. Jargon is not too bad a problem, but the average reader might not know what a medicus is or understand the significance of one being found in the forum. Actually, I'm not sure I understand the latter. A Latin term like servus callidus requires introduction.
 * 2b. Citations are generally good, the reference to "a number of word studies and syntactic texts listed in the works cited section" is basically useless given the length of the section in question. The dual use of "Footnotes" and "Works Cited" is confusing; I recommending listing all cited works in a single "Notes and references" section using inline citations, and placing items from "Works Cited" that the article doesn't specifically mention under "Further reading".
 * 2d. At times it's unclear whether a statement is OR or covered by a preceding citation, e.g., "he does seem to push the message..." If the latter, add or repeat a footnote.
 * 3b. There are too many digressions onto tangentially related topics. We don't need to know how Naevius' date of birth is calculated, nor do we need a quotation from West to establish that the Second Punic War "engrossed the Romans"; it's sufficient to state his view that the Miles Gloriosus commented on the war. The paragraph on "Greek Old Comedy" can be reduced to a single sentence along the lines of "Social and political commentary played a major role in the Greek Old Comedy represented by the plays of Aristophanes." Follow this with a sentence or two in the same paragraph to explain how New Comedy differs. Alternatively, since it's New Comedy that actually influenced Plautus, keep the focus on New Comedy and include a brief "unlike Old Comedy" statement. The section on the Greek theatre at the start of "Stagecraft" similarly devotes a bit too much space to setting up a contrast." "The Importance of the Ludi" doesn't seem to bear directly on Plautus and would be better suited to an article on Roman theatre. The section on "Father-Son Relationships" can probably be abridged to a sentence or two. I would drop the comparison with Horace from "Contaminatio". Parts of "The Language and Style of Plautus" read like guidelines for Latin students and don't belong in an encyclopedia article (e.g., "their notation should make initial readings a bit easier", "archaic forms present the reader with a richer understanding...").
 * 4a. As Nathan points out above, a statement like "The reality lies in the middle of these two arguments" violates WP:NPOV.
 * 6a. The image at the top lacks a caption.

Thank you to the contributors for your work on the article so far, and I hope it'll be renominated after these issues have been addressed. EALacey 20:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the deep review! --BMF81 02:46, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Introduction
Four sentences? Add more! RedRabbit 16:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

More problems
RedRabbit 17:35, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * At the same time, the Roman Republic was expanding in influence and power.—this is begging for elaboration.
 * Plautus and the Gods of Roman Society goes into a lengthy digression not of any encyclopedic relevance.
 * The three sentences in the beginning of Historical context are only loosely connected.
 * The Gnaeus Naevius subsection seems entirely irrelevant. How did Gnaeus influence Plautus? Why mention him at all?
 * The historical narrative in The Second Punic War, The Macedonian War and their Infuence on Plautus’ Plays is unnecessary. This is about Plautus, not Roman history; therefore, content must either be linked to Plautus or removed.

Removed statement on the musical theater
Well this ia quite an interesting and enthusiastic article. I give you a B for your interest. However it seems clear you are not a Latinist or a scholar. That is all right, that is fine. I'd rather have an enthusiast. I will enjoy going through this article making fixes. The first thing I would like to fix is the concept that he wrote musicals in any way; that is, that any of the lines were sung in songs that have melody. The line I removed is:

He is also one of the earliest pioneers of musical theater.

I saw a "funny thing" myself a few times when it came out. You can't confuse time periods and genres here; as far as I know, there is no evidence of any kind that the Romans had the musical theater, or opera either. Evidence on Roman music is pretty much in short supply, which is really quite surprising considering the high quality of Italian music and their obvious love of it. What instruments the ancient Romans did have were not of high quality by our standards and there is no tradition of famous singers. Song - forget it. We'd dearly like to know what the national anthem was. All that music in modern cinema - pure fiction. We know they had some martial music; we see representation of the drum and the horns. Most people do not know, however, that those horns were not even able to control pitch. They had the lyre. There probably was some singing at Rome, but personalized songs mixed in with the dialogue? Not as far as I know. The choruses of tragedy may have had some chanting that approached song and the recitation of epic poetry may have been very sing-song but those things are out-of-genre with comedy. Comedy is low. Aristophanes' "The Frogs" imitates the singing of frogs, which it makes sound like farting. New comedy is on a higher level but not very much. So, you let yourself get carried away by wishful thinking. A statement such as that needs not only references but a whole linked article on the Roman musical theater (but there is none as far I know).Dave (talk) 18:01, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Philocleon and Bdelycleon
The names Philocleon and Bdelycleon are stronger than "pro-Cleon" and "anti-Cleon". Literally they mean Love-Cleon and Loathe-Cleon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.73.31.50 (talk) 20:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Language
Plautus had written his comedies before Senatus consultum de Bacchanalibus was written. I wonder why his language is so modern compared to the latter. It contains merely isolated archaisms. jn --147.251.80.34 (talk) 13:25, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Well, his language was closer to the vernacular, while the SCB is an official inscription in legal language; it's not rare to find modern forms earlier in the spoken variants of a language than in its highly codified official form. - Toothswung (talk) 14:58, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Plautus' plays are the earliest surviving complete works in Latin
I wonder why the scholars are certain that the works by Plautus are intact as written by him and not later modernizations. -- jn 147.251.80.34 (talk) 14:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Does more Plautus survive than Euripides?
Under Manuscript tradition it states that the 20 surviving plays of Plautus make him "the most prolific ancient dramatist in terms of survivng works". Actually, it depends on how one counts surviving works. Euripides has 18 surviving plays, but on average they are longer, so that we have more material from Euripides even though we have fewer titles.

Sarsina
Sarsina, Plautus'bitrthplace is not in Umbria, but in Romagna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.115.78.18 (talk) 18:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

 * The ancient region of Umbria was larger than the modern Italian regioni are. Saying he was from Romagna strikes me as anachronistic. 129.22.72.76 (talk) 22:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

based on Greek models
re: "Plautus's comedies are mostly adapted from Greek models for a Roman audience" - I thought the plays that Plautus is supposed to have based his works on are now missing, so that this adaptation-relationship is conjectural? Apologies if I'm totally off base about this... ELSchissel (talk) 12:36, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Plautus' or Plautus's
Note that the Modern Humanities Research Association style guide (used by copy editors) (2002 edition) says "The possessive of names ending in -us conforms to the normal rule: Claudius’s successor, Herodotus’s Histories" etc. So there is no need to correct "Plautus's". Kanjuzi (talk) 14:24, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

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 * Avoid overfilling the fuel tank
 * Keep up on proper and timely maintenance

Additionally, carrying the least amount of weight possible will aid in less fuel consumed. Things like golf clubs, tool boxes, strollers etc. can add unnecessary weight to the vehicle. Even wearing thin-soled shoes can aid in reducing fuel consumption; thinner soles can result in increased sensitivity to the gas pedal.

Additionally, a technique that has been a subject to controversy is that of drafting. This involves driving close to or slipstreaming behind the car in front, potentially saving 40% of fuel. Drafting can save energy by using the car ahead to push air out of the way. This technique is subject to controversy due to the reduction in visibility and the risk of not being able to brake fast enough if the car in front stops.

Hypermiling with electric cars
The range of electric cars is limited. To get the most out of the battery, drivers sometimes use hypermiling techniques. Some aim to set a record for most mileage from a single charge. For example, a Tesla Model 3 ran more than 1000 km with one battery charge. The average speed was 38 km/h and the whole drive took around 30 hours. The tester used the autopilot of Tesla Model 3, running the car unmanned. The test car did not drive on a public road.

Hypermiling with aircraft
There have been several aircraft hypermiling competitions held throughout the years, such the FuelVenture and CAFE challenges. Klaus Savier won the 2009 Fuelventure 400 in a VariEze aircraft which got 45 mpgus at 207 mph with a modified Continental O-200 engine upgraded with a computerized fuel injection and ignition system by Light Speed Engineering. By slowing to extend range, mileage approaches 100 mpgus.

In World War II the famed pilot Charles Lindbergh consulted with pilots of the Army Air Corps and the Marine Corps and introduced engine-leaning techniques which greatly improved fuel consumption at cruise speeds and enabled aircraft to fly longer-range missions.

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Tetrahemihexahedron

In geometry, the tetrahemihexahedron or hemicuboctahedron is a uniform star polyhedron, indexed as U4. It has 7 faces (4 triangles and 3 squares), 12 edges, and 6 vertices. Its vertex figure is a crossed quadrilateral. Its Coxeter–Dynkin diagram is (although this is a double covering of the tetrahemihexahedron).

The tetrahemihexahedron is the only non-prismatic uniform polyhedron with an odd number of faces. Its Wythoff symbol is 3/2 3 | 2, but that represents a double covering of the tetrahemihexahedron with eight triangles and six squares, paired and coinciding in space. (It can more intuitively be seen as two coinciding tetrahemihexahedra.)

The tetrahemihexahedron is a hemipolyhedron. The "hemi" part of the name means some of the faces form a group with half as many members as some regular polyhedron—here, three square faces form a group with half as many faces as the regular hexahedron, better known as the cube—hence hemihexahedron. Hemi faces are also oriented in the same direction as the regular polyhedron's faces. The three square faces of the tetrahemihexahedron are, like the three facial orientations of the cube, mutually perpendicular.

The "half-as-many" characteristic also means that hemi faces must pass through the center of the polyhedron, where they all intersect each other. Visually, each square is divided into four right triangles, with two visible from each side.

Related surfaces
The tetrahemihexahedron is a non-orientable surface. It is unique as the only uniform polyhedron with an Euler characteristic of 1 and is hence a projective polyhedron, yielding a representation of the real projective plane very similar to the Roman surface.

Related polyhedra
The tetrahemihexahedron has the same vertices and edges as the regular octahedron. It also shares 4 of the 8 triangular faces of the octahedron, but has three additional square faces passing through the centre of the polyhedron.

The dual figure of the tetrahemihexahedron is the tetrahemihexacron.

The tetrahemihexahedron is 2-covered by the cuboctahedron, which accordingly has the same abstract vertex figure (2 triangles and two squares: 3.4.3.4) and twice the vertices, edges, and faces. It has the same topology as the abstract polyhedron hemi-cuboctahedron.

The tetrahemihexahedron may also be constructed as a crossed triangular cuploid. All cuploids and their duals are topologically projective planes.

Tetrahemihexacron
The tetrahemihexacron is the dual of the tetrahemihexahedron, and is one of nine dual hemipolyhedra.

Since the hemipolyhedra have faces passing through the center, the dual figures have corresponding vertices at infinity; properly, on the real projective plane at infinity. In Magnus Wenninger's Dual Models, they are represented with intersecting prisms, each extending in both directions to the same vertex at infinity, in order to maintain symmetry. In practice the model prisms are cut off at a certain point that is convenient for the maker. Wenninger suggested these figures are members of a new class of stellation figures, called stellation to infinity. However, he also suggested that strictly speaking they are not polyhedra because their construction does not conform to the usual definitions.

Topologically, the tetrahemihexacron is considered to contain seven vertices. The three vertices considered at infinity (the real projective plane at infinity) correspond directionally to the three vertices of the hemi-octahedron, an abstract polyhedron. The other four vertices exist at alternate corners of a central cube (a demicube, in this case a tetrahedron).

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Norge, Virginia

Norge is an unincorporated community in James City County, Virginia, United States.

Location
Norge is located on the old Richmond-Williamsburg Stage Road, which is U.S. Route 60 in modern times. Interstate 64 was built through the area in the 1970s, and passes nearby. Exit 231 is labeled "Croaker-Norge" for the two small communities nearby.

History
The new community of Norge was formally established beginning in 1904 in western James City County by Norwegian Americans and other Scandinavians, with persons resettling from other places in North America joined by new immigrants. Land at Norge was reasonably priced and offered rich farm land in a gentler climate than that of the northern and Midwestern states, where some of the immigrants had originally settled upon coming to America.

When it came to naming the hamlet, Foster was the first suggestion. Foster was the name of a house that stood near the railroad tracks. However, that name was dismissed. Norway was another suggestion, but that was vetoed due to that moniker already having been assigned to another post office. So the town settled on the Norwegian spelling. The word "Norge" is the Norwegian (Bokmål) spelling of "Norway". The town’s first residents used the Norwegian pronunciation, “Nor’-ga”.

For some years, prospective new residents were introduced to the area through promotional material sent out by Carl Martin Bergh, a fellow Norwegian American with farming experience who had become a land agent for the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway (C&O). The Peninsula Extension of the railroad had been built through the area in 1881 to reach from the mountains of West Virginia to the coal piers on Hampton Roads at the new city of Newport News in adjacent Warwick County. Originally known as "Vaiden's Siding", the C&O built a railroad station at Norge in 1908. The Norge Depot offered a convenient point for shipping farm produce to places such as Richmond. Although the railroad station was closed in 1969, and C&O passenger service ended in 1971, Amtrak continues to serve the area with a stop at the Williamsburg, Virginia station.

By 1909, Norge contained 25 buildings, including homes, churches, stores and other businesses. Some of the original buildings still stand today.

Landmarks
The Norge Historic District was considered for the National Register of Historic Places in 1992 (reference number 92001269), but there were owner objections. The landmarks include the following:

Viking Hall: In 1908, a group of young men, who called themselves the "Vikings", purchased two lots on the corner of Richmond Rd. and Peninsula St. for $5.00 in order to construct a Town Hall. They wanted a centrally located place to be used for dances, meetings and parties as their parents had known in Norway. Viking Hall provided a space for a variety of venues until the 1920s, when it went into disrepair. The Norge Home Demonstration Club purchased the building, renovated it, and renamed it the Norge Community Hall. To this day, the community and many local organizations continue to make extensive use of this hall.

Bergh Hotel: This hotel was built at the turn of the 20th century. It was owned and operated by Alfred Bergh to accommodate the new arrivals at the new community. The building today is thriving as a furniture store: since the 1980s it has been the "Williamsburg Wicker and Rattan".

Kinde and Nesseth Store: Hans Kinde and John Nesseth opened Norge's first store in 1903. It was a general store that sold everything from clothing to fertilizer to groceries. In 1904, the first Norge post office operated from this facility. The building was rebuilt in 1908 after a fire, and still operates today as an antique store under the name "The Old Store in the Village".

The farm home of Carl Bergh, built around 1904, is located at the end of Farmville Lane in Norge. The house was built on the remaining foundation of Farmville Plantation Manor House dating to the early 1800s, which had burned in the 1890s.

Other landmarks in Norge include the former Doll Factory, the former Williamsburg Soap and Candle Factory, Our Saviour's Evangelical Lutheran Church and the Norge Train Depot, which was listed in the National Register of Historic Places in 2009.

Education
It is within Williamsburg-James City County Public Schools. Area schools:
 * Norge Elementary School
 * Toano Middle School
 * Warhill High School

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Talk:The Political Machine

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I am aware that Chloe Sullivan is not a Politition, but is actually a character from Smallville. I kid you not, she is in the game, and is one of the better Democratic Candidates in the game, at least before you start unlocking some new ones... T ConX 03:54, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I am removing the citation needed for Chloe Sullivan, as her page is enough of a citation. 70.181.188.216 (talk) 16:22, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Ron Paul is one of the candidates?
Someone in a forum said Ron Paul is one of the candidates. True? http://www.dailypaul.com/node/68771 JettaMann (talk) 22:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

New version
http://www.politicalmachine.com/article/305678/The_Political_Machine_2008_officially_announced - 124.123.38.237 (talk) 13:25, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

2008 vs 2012
This article is mostly about the 2008 version. It should be noted, however, that the 2012 version doesn't give you the ability to unlock all the old candidates in campaign mode (Reagan, Washington, Jefferson, etc). Perhaps this should be noted, since much of the article is listing unlockable characters? <> Alt lys er svunnet hen (talk) 21:46, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

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Isis (song)

"Isis" is a ballad written by Bob Dylan in collaboration with Jacques Levy, in July 1975. The song is the second track on Dylan's 1976 album Desire. The song, which features allusions to ancient Egypt, including sharing its title with an Egyptian goddess, has been characterized by Dylan as a song "about marriage".

Description
This song is in a moderately fast 3/4 time, in the key of B-flat major. The arrangement is based on rhythm chords played on acoustic piano, accompanied by bass guitar, drums, and violin. The harmonic progression consists of an ostinato using the following chords throughout:

I–VII♭–IV–I B♭–A♭–E♭–B♭

The lyrics are all verses; there is no chorus. The melody is in the style of a modal folk song, emphasizing the tonic and dominant notes in the scale, with leaps of a fifth in between them. The mode is Mixolydian with a major third in the harmony, but Dylan's delivery of the melody and Scarlet Rivera's violin accompaniment use a flatted third as in the blues. Dylan ends the performance with a brief upward glissando on the piano.

Song narrative
"Isis" tells the tale of a man (the narrator) who married an enigmatic woman ("a mystical child") named Isis. The story covers his separation from her, his subsequent adventure and, ultimately, his return. The marriage took place "on the fifth day of May," (an allusion to Cinco de Mayo, one of several Mexican themes found in Dylan's songs during the 1970s). After the wedding, he "could not hold on to her very long", so he "cut off his hair and rode straight away for the wild unknown country..." He reaches a "high place" divided by a line "through the center of town" into "darkness and light." He hitches his pony and enters a laundry, as though to wash himself of his past. He meets and falls in with a shady character who promises "something easy to catch." They ride "to the pyramids all embedded in ice". They carry on in freezing conditions until the bounty-hunting companion dies. The narrator breaks into the empty tomb ("the casket was empty"), finds no treasure, and realizes the adventure had been a fool's errand. He leaves his dead companion in the tomb, says a quick prayer, and rides back to Isis, whom he still loves. He sees Isis in a meadow and when she asks him if he is going to stay this time, he replies, "If you want me to, yes!".

Writing
It was the writing collaboration on "Isis" between Dylan and Jacques Levy that eventually led to the full album Desire. One night, Dylan met Levy at his loft and showed him an early draft of "Isis." According to Levy, "Isis" began life as a "slow dirge", unlike anything he had ever heard before, which he felt gave the appearance of setting the listener up "for a long story". When Dylan first played this embryonic version for him, the two of them started working together. According to Levy, it was an enjoyable songwriting partnership, with Levy writing words and Dylan contributing ideas. The session lasted until the early hours of the morning, after which Dylan and Levy went to a Greenwich Village music club, The Other End. Dylan read the lyrics to the gathered crowd, to favorable reactions. The partnership went on to pen "Hurricane" and other tracks later featured on Desire.

"Isis" was written and recorded during a time of separation and reunion in Dylan's own marriage; consequently, for fans and critics the temptation to interpret it as an allegory of Dylan's own marital difficulties is irresistible, especially since the Desire album contains the song "Sara" which is openly about their marriage and separation. Dylan was known to include autobiographical hints in his previous songs. "Isis" draws upon mythological themes of a male hero separating from his wife, going on adventures, and returning to the marriage, going back to the Odyssey.

Personnel

 * Bob Dylan – vocals, piano and harmonica
 * Scarlet Rivera – violin
 * Rob Stoner – bass guitar
 * Howie Wyeth – drums

Live performances
Dylan did an up-tempo live version of the song with the Rolling Thunder Revue in 1975. A performance taped on this tour on December 4, 1975, was included in the 1978 film Renaldo and Clara, and released in video form in 2002 on a bonus DVD accompanying the initial release of The Bootleg Series Vol. 5: Bob Dylan Live 1975, The Rolling Thunder Revue. The audio recording of this performance had been released on the 1978 promotional EP 4 Songs from "Renaldo and Clara" and the 1985 compilation album Biograph. Dylan is heard introducing the piece as "a song about marriage," and adds "This one's for Leonard, if you're still here!" referring to Leonard Cohen (the performance was recorded in Montreal, Cohen's birthplace). Another live version of the song, recorded on a tour date the previous month, appeared in audio format only on The Bootleg Series Vol. 5. In 2019, these two performances and four other live renditions of the song from the 1975 tour were released on the box set The Rolling Thunder Revue: The 1975 Live Recordings, along with two full-length rehearsals.

According to Dylan's official website, as of August 2020 Dylan has played "Isis" live 46 times. All performances were in 1975 and 1976.

Influence
Fiona Apple, in a 2020 interview with Pitchfork, cited Desire as her favorite Dylan album and credited "Isis" with giving her a "sexual awakening": "And on the song 'Isis', he sort of gave me my sexual awakening a little bit. When he goes, 'She said, 'You look different', I said, 'Well, I guess'/[...] She said, ‘You going to stay?’ I said, ‘If you want me to, yes’'—when he says 'Well, I guess', I was like: ooooh".

Cover versions
The White Stripes covered it live many times during their career.

Ryan Adams covered it live at a Dylan tribute concert in 2006.

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South of Nowhere

South of Nowhere is an American teen drama television series created by Thomas W. Lynch. It first aired on November 4, 2005, on Noggin as part of its teen programming block, The N. The show was produced by Noggin LLC in association with the creator's studio, Tom Lynch Company. It ran for three seasons and 40 episodes in total, the last of which aired on December 12, 2008. Live webisodes were also created to accompany each episode in the season-two storyline, and were seen exclusively through The N's website on the Click.

The show follows the lives of the members of the Carlin family (Paula, Arthur, Glen, Clay, and Spencer) as they adjust to moving from Ohio to Los Angeles, California. One of the main focuses include the relationship between Spencer Carlin (Gabrielle Christian) and her bisexual friend, Ashley Davies (Mandy Musgrave). The close friendship between Ashley and Spencer led Spencer to question her own sexuality, a subject which created controversy before the show first aired. It was the first series on The N to deal with such a subject relating to the primary characters. South of Nowhere was positively reviewed by publications such as Variety, The Boston Globe, and The New York Times.

Rare for a teen series, but fitting with Noggin/The N's goals as a "thinking channel", the show was created with loose educational goals in mind. Parent discussion guides were available for each episode on The N's website. The guides offered tips and questions about the topics raised in South of Nowhere, especially those centered around sexual identity, to use as discussion starters with teenagers.

Plot
The series begins with the Carlins moving to Los Angeles. The Carlin children transfer to a Los Angeles school called King High. The father, Arthur, works as a social worker and school counselor. The mother, Paula, initiated the move to accept a lucrative job in the emergency room of a Los Angeles hospital. Throughout the series, Arthur and Paula struggle to keep their family happy and together in their new environment.

The youngest Carlin child, Spencer, befriends a bisexual girl named Ashley Davies. Ashley is the jaded, neglected daughter of a famous rock star. As her friendship with Ashley develops into a romance, Spencer begins to question her sexuality. When she figures out that she is gay, Clay and Arthur support her, while Glen and Paula struggle to understand it at first and take time to realize the error of their ways. Spencer's relationship with Ashley introduces her to Aiden Dennison, who was once Ashley's boyfriend, as well as to Kyla Woods, Ashley's estranged half-sister, who debuts in season two. Spencer and Ashley's storylines involve topics of homosexuality, homophobia, peer pressure, religion, romance, and high school.

The middle child, Clay, was adopted by the Carlins and is African-American. He is a straight-A student and cares deeply about his future and his family. He becomes best friends with a movie buff named Sean Miller, and he dates an aspiring artist named Chelsea Lewis. Clay constantly wonders about his birth mother, which drives him to find out her identity and meet with her. When Clay discovers that his birth mother chose to give him up for adoption because she was a teen parent, he is hurt by her treatment of him, but they eventually make partial amends. At the end of the second season, Clay is murdered in a drive-by shooting at prom, deeply affecting his family and friends for the remainder of the series. Clay's storylines, as well as Sean and Chelsea's, deal with topics of racism, abortion, adoption, teen pregnancy, hate crimes, and stepfamilies.

The eldest child, Glen, is the athlete of the family. He joins the basketball team and quickly upstages the former star player, Aiden. Glen begins to date the captain of the cheerleading squad, Madison Duarte, and is sought after by colleges for his basketball skills. During an impromptu basketball match, though, Glen injures his leg and is unable to play. He becomes addicted to the painkillers to which he is prescribed, which leads to him losing his basketball dreams by the time he graduates. As a graduate, Glen plans to join the army, but later decides against it, eventually choosing to work at a sporting goods store. Glen's storylines involve topics of drugs, drug dealing, arrests, college, stress, and the military.

Cast

 * Gabrielle Christian as Spencer Carlin
 * Mandy Musgrave as Ashley Davies
 * Matt Cohen as Aiden Dennison
 * Chris Hunter as Glen Carlin
 * Danso Gordon as Clay Carlin (seasons 1–2; guest star in season 3)
 * Rob Moran as Arthur Carlin
 * Maeve Quinlan as Paula Carlin
 * Austen Parros as Sean Miller (seasons 1–2; recurring in season 3)
 * Valery Ortiz as Madison Duarte
 * Aasha Davis as Chelsea Lewis (season 3; recurring in seasons 1-2)
 * Eileen April Boylan as Kyla Woods (seasons 2–3)

Production
Thomas Lynch said, "I believe The N is the only network bold and daring enough to air this series, and I'm thrilled to be collaborating with them." He said that Amy Friedman, the creative director of Noggin and The N, "showed no fear about the idea" of a coming-out storyline; her main focus was ensuring that the subject matter was treated respectfully.

Tom Ascheim, the general manager of Noggin and The N, said that South of Nowhere represented how he wanted The N block to present itself. In an interview with The New York Times, Ascheim said that the show "doesn't preach...it doesn't pretend it's doing something particularly heroic...it just kind of says, 'Hi, here we are, being who we are.'" Likewise, Friedman called the show "definitional" to the block.

Each episode of South of Nowhere is half an hour in length with commercials (23–25 minutes of actual program). The pilot episode was produced as two episode segments and runs for one hour (about 46 minutes of actual program). Noggin LLC initially ordered 11 episodes of the series for its The N block, which aired on Fridays at 8:30 p.m.

On February 27, 2008, The N's podcast, The N'Sider Podcast, announced that South of Nowhere was to be cancelled after the end of season three. On February 28, an official announcement was made on the show's website that it would be the last season.

"'Things change. It doesn't always seem good, but change they do. South of Nowhere has been a great journey. A show like this could not have existed ten years ago on youth oriented television or any television for that matter. But exist it does, because things change. I have loved my experience with The N for having the courage and vision to air South. I love the fans for allowing me to tell real stories about their lives. I love all of the producers, writers, directors, and crew who took the series into their hearts and participated in SON as more than a 'job'. I love the cast and how they dimensionalized the characters and created real people that you as fans could relate to and feel for as they reflected your own lives. I especially love Spashley, The name you gave to the two lead characters. To be able to create a show called 'Excellent,' 'groundbreaking' and 'impossible to resist' is rare. To create a show that touches the hearts and lives of a generation is a gift. Thank you for allowing me and Spashley into your hearts. And remember, things change, so there's no telling where the stories of Spashley will show up next.

Love and Respect-Tom Lynch Creator / Executive Producer"

Broadcast
Rather than cut the season in half, The N gave South of Nowhere a four-week break. The show returned to Noggin's nighttime lineup in January 2006 with the remaining episodes from the original order to air. During the breaks between episodes, interviews were shown with two of the stars, Gabrielle Christian and Matt Cohen, during commercial breaks.

The second season was originally set to begin on October 6, 2006, but was pushed up to September 29, 2006. Its season premiere followed the sixth-season premiere of Degrassi: The Next Generation. The N officially renewed South of Nowhere for a third season of 16 episodes in 2007. Eight episodes aired from August 10, 2007 to September 21, 2007.

Promotions began airing in March 2008 stating the show would be returning April 11. However, on March 21, it was announced that the final half of the third season had been pushed back to the fall. South of Nowhere returned for the remainder of its third season on October 10, 2008 and ended its run on December 12, 2008.

Music

 * In the broadcast version of season one, the theme song was "I Don't Wanna Know (If You Don't Want Me)" by The Donnas.
 * The show's theme song for the second and third seasons is "Wasted" by LP.
 * For the Amazon DVD and iTunes releases, the first season's theme music was replaced with "Lift Me Up" by Gena Olivier.
 * The song used in the teaser trailers for season one was "No Money Fun" by Oly.
 * "Reasons to Fall" by Lauren Hoffman is used multiple times in "The Morning After". Another song by Hoffman, "Ghost You Know", was used during the ending scene of the season one finale. Her songs "Broken", "Hope You Don't Mind" and "Magic Stick" are also used throughout the series.
 * The song used in early promos for season one is "Perfect Vision" by Montag.
 * The song used in the first promo for season three is "Deep" by Ben Broussard.
 * The song used in the promo for the last half of the series is "Goodbye" by Secondhand Serenade.
 * The song used in the episode "Girls Guide To Dating" (also titled "Girls Guide To Dating Girls") is "Something In Me" by Katelyn Tarver.
 * The song used in "Behind The Music" is "What I Wouldn't Give" by Skylar Grey.
 * The song used twice ("Saturday Night Is For Fighting" and "The It Girls") is "Hollywood" by Conex.

Syndication
In Canada, reruns aired on MuchMusic from 2011 to 2012. In the United States, reruns aired on TeenNick from 2009 to 2010 and again in 2012, and on Logo TV in 2017.

DVD releases
Nickelodeon, the owner of Noggin/The N, struck a deal with Amazon.com to produce DVDs of its shows, including South of Nowhere. Amazon made the discs, cover art, and disc art themselves.

Streaming
South of Nowhere is available to download online on the "TV Shows" section of Apple's U.S. iTunes Store and the episodes are formatted for use with the Apple iPod. The show is also available for download on Amazon Unbox service and viewable on a compatible PC, TV, or portable video player. On all of these copies, the first-season episodes have had the opening and closing theme music replaced with different music (noted above).

All episodes, as well as the webisodes, were able to be streamed on The N's video service "The Click". However, this service is only available in selected countries. It is not available in Canada. Episodes can also be viewed on Logo's official website.

Season 2 was released on September 16, 2008, through Amazon.com. Season 1 was released on October 21, 2008. These contain the same edits as used on Amazon Unbox. Season 1 does not feature opening credits for the majority of the episodes, though the accompanying music track, "Life Me Up," is used in the closing credits for each. Season 3 was released on June 16, 2009 through Amazon.

Critical
South of Nowhere received positive reviews from television critics. Jill Murphy of Common Sense Media gave the series a four out of five stars stating "An eye-opening portrayal; OK for mature teens.".

Ratings
Ratings for the second season were up by 35% from season 1. On November 17, 2006, the series reached a high among teens with a 2.16 rating.

Awards and nominations
The series was nominated for a GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Drama Series in 2006, 2007 and 2009.

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Talk:John Sandfield MacDonald

It is Macdonald, NOT MacDonald. see the DoCB entry Fawcett5 03:56, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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Howard Fineman

Howard David Fineman (November 17, 1948 – June 11, 2024) was an American journalist and television commentator. In a career that spanned nearly five decades, Fineman covered nine presidential campaigns as a reporter, writer, and analyst. For 30 years, he drove Newsweek magazine's political coverage. At the height of the publication's influence, Fineman was its chief political correspondent, senior editor, and deputy Washington bureau chief. His "Living Politics" column was posted weekly on Newsweek.com. After his tenure at Newsweek, he was named global editorial director of the AOL Huffington Post Media Group.

Fineman was also an NBC News analyst, contributing reports to the network and its cable affiliate MSNBC. He appeared regularly on Hardball with Chris Matthews, Countdown with Keith Olbermann, The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, and The Rachel Maddow Show. The author of scores of Newsweek cover stories, Fineman's work appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The New Republic, and RealClearPolitics, where he was a contributing correspondent during the 2020 election cycle. Between 2017 and 2019, Fineman was a lecturer at the University of Pennsylvania Annenberg School of Communications, teaching a seminar on “New Media Journalism and Politics in the Trump Era.” He authored The Thirteen American Arguments: Enduring Debates That Define and Inspire Our Country, which takes the position that the United States is a nation built on healthy disagreements and arguments.

Early life and education
Fineman was born in 1948 and grew up in a Jewish family in the Squirrel Hill neighborhood of Pittsburgh. He was the son of Jean (née Lederman) and Charles Fineman, both teachers. Howard attended Colfax Elementary and Taylor Allderdice High School, graduating in 1966.

The family belonged to the Tree of Life – Or L'Simcha Congregation, where Fineman celebrated his bar mitzvah. In 2018, he wrote an opinion piece for the New York Times about how the horrific attack on the temple by an antisemite, killing eleven people, "is part of a larger pattern of mayhem and hatred in America and around the world".

Fineman earned a Bachelor of Arts from Colgate University (where he was Phi Beta Kappa and a member of Beta Theta Pi), a Master of Science degree in journalism from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, and a Juris Doctor from the University of Louisville School of Law. His legal education included a year studying at the Georgetown University Law Center. He was a recipient of both the Thomas J. Watson Fellowship and the Pulitzer Traveling Fellowship for study in Europe, Russia and the Middle East. He used the grant to travel to Ukraine and explore his family's Jewish roots. In March 2022, he wrote about the experience after Russia invaded Ukraine.

Career
Fineman began his journalism career at The Louisville Courier-Journal, covering the environment, the coal industry and state politics before joining the newspaper's Washington bureau in 1978. He moved to Newsweek in 1980, where he was named Chief Political Correspondent in 1984, Deputy Washington Bureau Chief in 1993 and Senior Editor in 1995. He became a regular guest on Tony Kornheiser's eponymous podcast (The Tony Kornheiser Show) offering political insight to Kornheiser as well as Pittsburgh sports updates. Kornheiser referred to him as "The Intergalactic Editor of The Huffington Post". In 2010, Fineman became political editor of the Huffington Post, and remained with the organization until 2018, after which he joined NBC News as a commentator.

In a discussion of pack journalism during the 1988 presidential campaign, author/journalist Richard Ben Cramer identifies a Fineman profile piece in Newsweek as the tipping point at which unattributed rumors and whispered speculation about the private life of Democratic candidate Gary Hart were made public and effectively legitimated. Cramer writes that Fineman posed to John McEvoy, a top aide in the 1984 Hart campaign, a series of leading, uncorroborated assertions about Hart's fidelity, finally prompting McEvoy to say, "Yuh, well, you know ... he'll always be in jeopardy ... if he can't keep his pants on." McEvoy later complained that the comment was off the record and, in any event, based solely on speculation, but Fineman bootstrapped the quote into publication with the unattributed lead-in "many political observers expect the rumors to emerge as a campaign issue." The subsequent media focus resulted in Hart's decision to drop his candidacy.

Accomplishments and awards
Fineman covered the contentious 2000 presidential campaign, and subsequently covered the presidency of George W. Bush. A Newsweek cover story in November 2001 featured the president's first extensive interview following the September 11 attacks. Fineman's awards include a "Page One" from the Headliners Club of New York, a "Silver Gavel" from the American Bar Association, and a "Deadline Club" from the Society of Professional Journalists.

Fineman wrote on the rise of the "religious right", the power of talk radio, race and politics, and the Pledge of Allegiance controversy. He interviewed business leaders such as Bill Gates, Steve Case, and Steve Ballmer. He interviewed GOP operative Lee Atwater, in the documentary Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story. Fineman reported for NBC, and appeared on most major public affairs shows. He was a panelist on PBS's Washington Week in Review from 1983 to 1995, and on CNN's Capital Gang from 1995 to 1998.

Fineman held honorary degrees from Colgate University, the University of Louisville Washington and Jefferson College, and Gettysburg College. Fineman, a distinguished political journalist, was celebrated for his skill in navigating and influencing political discourse through breaking news and in-depth analysis. Committed to journalism's democratic role, he advocated for a strong news industry to counter misinformation and polarization.

Personal life and death
In 1981, Fineman married lawyer Amy Nathan and had a son and daughter. Their son Nick followed his father into news media becoming a television news producer.

On June 11, 2024, aged 75, Fineman died from pancreatic cancer at his home in Washington, D.C.

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Jody Morris

Jody Steven Morris (born 22 December 1978) is an English professional football coach and former player. He was most recently the head coach of EFL League Two club Swindon Town.

As a midfielder, Morris played for Chelsea, Leeds United, Rotherham United, Millwall, St Johnstone and Bristol City. He won several trophies at Chelsea, including the UEFA Super Cup in 1998 and FA Cup in 2000.

After retiring from playing, Morris became a youth coach at Chelsea's academy. He was then named assistant manager to Frank Lampard at Derby County in 2018 and Chelsea in 2019.

Chelsea
Morris came through the youth ranks at Chelsea, alongside his close friend John Terry. He became the youngest player to ever play in the Premier League for Chelsea when he debuted at the age of 17 years and 43 days in the home game against Middlesbrough on 4 February 1996 and was named Chelsea's Young Player of the Year for 1996–97.

While at Chelsea, he made 124 league appearances and was a late substitute in the 2000 FA Cup final, receiving a winner's medal. In April 2000, Chelsea won 3–1 against Barcelona in the UEFA Champions League; Morris was later described by Xavi as one of his toughest opponents. Morris played 173 times for Chelsea across all competitions. He was also briefly made captain of the club by manager Gianluca Vialli.

However, when Claudio Ranieri took over from Vialli as Chelsea boss, Morris' first team opportunities diminished, and he was linked with a host of clubs including being reunited with his former England under-21 manager Peter Taylor at Leicester. Morris never regained his position as a first team regular at Chelsea, finding himself behind players, such as Roberto Di Matteo, Dennis Wise, Didier Deschamps and Emmanuel Petit. He was offered a new five-year contract with Chelsea in 2003, but chose to turn it down.

Leeds, Rotherham, and Millwall
Graeme Souness offered him the chance of regular first team football at Blackburn Rovers and they shook hands on a deal, but it fell through. He joined Leeds United instead, but made only 12 appearances for the club. After a short spell at Rotherham United, where he scored once against Stoke City, he joined Millwall in 2004.

Morris made 70 first-team appearances for Millwall, before fracturing his cheekbone, and then suffered cruciate knee ligament damage at Derby County on his comeback game, towards the end of the 2005–06 season. He signed a new one-year deal in June 2006, with the club having an additional one-year option. In June 2007, Morris was released by Millwall. Morris then had a brief trial period at Charlton Athletic, and trained with League Two side Brentford, in a bid to earn himself a contract at the West London club.

St Johnstone and Bristol City
Morris signed for Scottish side St Johnstone, then in the First Division, on a short-term deal at the end of February 2008, playing under Derek McInnes, his former teammate at Millwall during the 2006–07 season. He scored a goal on his debut against Dundee. He played in the club's Scottish Cup semi-final defeat to Rangers in April 2008 but was one of two Saints players to miss in the penalty shoot-out. After a successful five months at McDiarmid Park, Morris signed a two-year deal with the Perth side at the end of the season. He was part of the title-winning team that in May 2009 gained promotion to the Scottish Premier League after a seven-year absence. Morris signed a new contract with Saints in October 2009, while Derek McInnes praised his influence on the squad. After McInnes left St Johnstone to manage Bristol City in October 2011, Morris assisted caretaker manager Alec Cleland with the coaching of the squad.

Morris signed a one-year contract with Bristol City in June 2012, reuniting him with Derek McInnes. Morris had his contract terminated with Bristol City on 31 January 2013 having only made four league appearances for the club.

Chelsea Academy
In the 2013–14 season Morris returned to Chelsea, initially to help coach the Under-21 squad. He was then an assistant coach of the Under-18 team, and moved to head coach of the team for the 2016–17 season. The team won the FA Youth Cup for the fifth successive time in 2018. At Chelsea, Morris coached possession-based attacking football, and used several formations including the 3–4–3, 3–5–2, 4–3–3 and 4–4–2. In his two seasons as head coach, Chelsea's Under-18s won 59 matches and lost 5 times. They won the treble in 2016–17 and the quadruple in 2017–18.

Derby County and Chelsea
In May 2018, Morris became assistant to former Chelsea teammate Frank Lampard at Derby County. Their first game in charge was a 2–1 win over Reading, thanks to a last-minute winner from Tom Lawrence. On 25 September, Derby knocked Premier League team Manchester United out of the EFL Cup at Old Trafford on penalties, following a 2–2 draw. At the end of the season, Derby qualified for the Championship play-offs after coming sixth in the league. In the semi-finals, they overturned a 1–0 loss at home to Leeds United in the first leg with a 4–2 win at Elland Road in the second that gave them a 4–3 aggregate win. This took them to the final against Aston Villa, which Derby lost 2–1.

Morris returned to Chelsea in July 2019 as part of the first-team coaching staff following the appointment of Lampard as head coach. They finished 4th in the Premier League and qualified for the UEFA Champions League. The following season, Morris left Chelsea in January 2021 after Lampard was sacked.

Swindon Town
On 31 January 2023, Morris was appointed manager of Swindon Town on a two-and-a-half-year contract. On 1 May 2023, it was announced that he had been sacked by Swindon Town after just 4 wins from 18.

Personal life
Morris grew up in Hammersmith, London, a mile-and-a-half away from Chelsea's Stamford Bridge. His skill as a footballer was evident at a young age, with fellow player Rio Ferdinand dubbing him "the best schoolboy footballer in London".

In September 2001, Morris, Chelsea teammates John Terry, Frank Lampard and Eiður Guðjohnsen, and Leicester City's Frank Sinclair, were drunk and unruly in a Heathrow Airport hotel containing many Americans left stranded by the September 11 attacks. The Chelsea quartet were each fined two weeks' wages, totalling around £100,000, which was donated to the 9/11 relief efforts.

In August 2002, Morris, along with fellow footballers John Terry and Des Byrne, was cleared of a charge of affray in relation to an incident at a nightclub. In 2006, Morris drove down a one-way street the wrong way while three times over the drink-drive limit. This resulted in a driving ban for four years, 80 hours of community service and a two-year suspended jail sentence.

Player
Chelsea
 * FA Cup: 1999–2000
 * FA Charity Shield: 2000
 * UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1997–98
 * UEFA Super Cup: 1998

Manager
Chelsea U18
 * FA Youth Cup: 2016–17, 2017–18
 * Under-18 Premier League: 2016–17, 2017–18
 * Under-18 Premier League Cup: 2017–18
 * Premier League National: 2017–18

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