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Talk:Micro-

Games
So whats micro on computer games? Anyone gotta real sophisticated way to put it?
 * I've absolutely no idea what you're trying to ask.
 * There's already a disambig referencing the computer usage; I don't think any more is necessary.
 * Fourohfour 10:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * as well as being slang for micromanagement in real-time strategy games.
 * I play a lot of real-time strategy gamesm and so far as I am aware, this term has never been used. Perhaps it is business jargon or bs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Evildictaitor (talk • contribs).

Requested move to "Micro-"
(This section created by Fourohfour, as proposer of move had not already created one).

Can you indicate the reasoning behind the move proposal? Thanks. Fourohfour 10:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

 * The article is about the micro- prefix ("micro" is not a word by itself). This is the way prefixes are written in dictionaries and the first word of the article.  All of these prefix articles need to be named appropriately. — Omegatron 15:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

 * So long as it's consistent with the rest of Wikipedia (or at least the way it's *meant* to be), that sounds fair enough to me. Fourohfour 16:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Micro can also be used as a word on it's own, as an adjective
 * i would comment that prescription would hold that 'micro' is a prefix, while description, acknowledges that it is a word unto itself. EuPhyte 18:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a dictionary. This is an encyclopedia article about a prefix, not a dictionary definition of a word.
 * For comparison, micro- is a dictionary definition of a prefix, while micro is a dictionary definition of a word.
 * micro could be a disambiguation page that links to micro- the prefix and microcomputer, for instance. — Omegatron 04:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Exactly, i favor the move, as this is an article about "micro- (prefix). However your assertion "("micro" is not a word by itself)" is not a winnable argument, per descriptive/perscriptive linguistics. I say move it. Article looks great by the way. --EuPhyte 00:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No, that is not appropriate use of lowercase. This is just like most Wikipedia entries.
 * Some dictionaries use upper and lower case variations in their entries, including Wiktionary. But Wikipedia has initial capitalization on, so we have Microcomputer which works fine using a microcomputer link and which shouldn't have a lowercase template either.
 * Other dictionaries, at least Webster's Third New International Dictionary, use the flip side of our initial capitalization: it uses initial lowercase, always.  Gene Nygaard (talk) 10:16, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Non standard prefix u
"In circumstances where only the Latin alphabet is available, the SI standard allows representation of the prefix using the letter u as in um for µm, or uV for µV." This assertion must be sourced or deleted. I didn't find this statement of this in SI Brochure (http://www.bipm.org/en/si/si_brochure/) so I think this use is not allowed officially. Please provide a source or it will be deleted. Armando82 10:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Changed. If you believe the correction I have done is wrong doesn't hesitate to correct the article but please provide a reliable source together. Armando82 18:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

 * The use of u or U as the substitute for µ is specified in ISO 2955. See Table 2. Kimura Aichi (talk) 12:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

 * As of 2021 „ISO 2955:1983 INFORMATION PROCESSING — REPRESENTATION OF SI AND OTHER UNITS IN SYSTEMS WITH LIMITED CHARACTER SETS“ is withdrawn. Also, the article does not state, that this usage is for „LIMITED CHARACTER SETS“, making the info misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.26.77.227 (talk) 11:44, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Lowercase?
I think that the move from Micro to micro- was good, but why is there a tag? The full name is capitalized at the beginning of a sentence just like normal words are, and microfarad, micrometer, etc are capitalized like other words.

Obviously the abbreviations must keep their case even when it would otherwise be changed, but not so for the full form. (That is, unless someone has a good reference -- for example using "microfarad capacitance is desired." instead of "Microfarad capacitance is desired." or an explicit discussion of this issue.)

CRGreathouse (t | c) 20:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

this is buch of bull shittttteeee.... it dont help anybody out!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.145.77.114 (talk) 01:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

italics?
I’m changing μ to be in a roman (not italic) font throughout this article, in accordance with the ISO standards linked at the bottom, which are presumably authoritative. I see no source justifying their consistent italicization. Obviously when used in a context like: “the symbol μ for micro means...”, the italics are appropriate. –jacobolus (t) 18:47, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It may also have been a mix of the legacy µ sign which is often rendered in italics even if not asking so, and the greek letter μ, which behaves as expected. The legacy µ sign should be avoided for this and other reasons, as mentioned elsewhere on this Talk page. M Killian (talk) 16:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Mcg used in pharmacy?
Where did the bit about mcg being used in Pharmacy come from? I checked the list, and it states that mcg is NOT acceptable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_abbreviations_used_in_medical_prescriptions --74.215.62.191 (talk) 10:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

 * I fixed it. The confusion arose because the Joint Commission recommendation is to use either "mcg" or "microgram", whereas some other organizations want only "microgram" (best practice). The "mcg" abbrev is in common use in health care. — ¾-10 23:34, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Unicode character used in this article
Why does this article use, given that   is the preferred form? The SI units table uses. —StuartBrady (Talk) 20:38, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * In the current version of this page we use the greek letter everywhere, except where the legacy sign is meant specifically. Thanks for pointing at the issue, which has been solved in the mean time. M Killian (talk) 16:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

another badly designed critical element of science
just not much system to this wording chosen for the degrees of magnitude, & not much mnemonics, and for those that dont hav english or, especially, latin as their first language??? such inefficiency for a group of people that hav t remember so so much!! so much of science has turned into this, and its understandable with brick by brick things added on, yet somday sombody is gonna have to fix it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.10.126.202 (talk) 00:38, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

 * What is especially bad is that the system of using Greek prefixes (deka, hekto, kilo) for multiplication (x10; x100; x1000) and Latin prefixes (deci, centi, milli) for division (1/10; 1/100; 1/1000) has been forsaken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.200.153.211 (talk) 06:58, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Greek mu vs micro mu
FWIW, concerning this edit: see Unicode Technical Report #25, page 11: "Some Greek letters are encoded elsewhere as technical symbols. These include U+00B5 μ MICRO SIGN, U+2126 Ω OHM SIGN, and several characters among the APL functional symbols in the Miscellaneous Technical block. U+03A9 Ω GREEK LETTER CAPITAL OMEGA is the canonical equivalent of U+2126 Ω and its use is preferred. Micro sign is included in several parts of ISO/IEC 8859, and therefore supported in many legacy environments where U+03BC μ GREEK LETTER SMALL MU is not available. Implementations therefore need to be able to recognize the micro sign, even though U+03BC μ is the preferred character in a Unicode context. Latin letters duplicated include U+212A K KELVIN SIGN and U+212B Å ANGSTROM SIGN. As in the case of the ohm sign, the corresponding regular Latin letters are canonical equivalents, therefore their use is preferred." So clearly they created the special symbols for implementations where the Greek (resp. Latin) letters are unavailable, but still prefer the Greek (resp. Latin) letters where they are available. As they are available here, and as most keyboards that do have a mu, provide the Greek letter, the edit seems on the mark. Was also discussed at User talk:128.178.189.30 - DVdm (talk) 11:36, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * In the current version of this page we use the greek letter everywhere, except where the legacy sign is meant specifically. Thanks for pointing at the issue. M Killian (talk) 16:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Greek letter μ or legacy symbol µ
Is there a differance? Are those coded by different unicode characters? Which unicode block does the latter come from? Which is is preffered, the Greek alphabet character from the Unicode block, or the dedicated character from a block I am not yet aware of? 85.221.132.154 (talk) 10:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

source for "mc"?
does anyone have a source for the use of "mc" as a replacement for "μ"? I've never seen it used, and the only sources I can find that mention it look unreliable. Justin Kunimune (talk) 16:20, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

 * @Justinkunimune Multivitamin and selected other vitamin bottles, as well as most food nutritional labels, use the symbol mcg for micrograms, using the first and third letters of micro for their abbreviation. 99.11.20.125 (talk) 06:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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Kawaiisu

The Kawaiisu (pronounced: ″ka-wai-ah-soo″) are a Native Californian ethnic group in the United States who live in the Tehachapi Valley and to the north across the Tehachapi Pass in the southern Sierra Nevada, toward Lake Isabella and Walker Pass. Historically, the Kawaiisu also traveled eastward on food-gathering trips to areas in the northern Mojave Desert, to the north and northeast of the Antelope Valley, Searles Valley, as far east as the Panamint Valley, the Panamint Mountains, and the western edge of Death Valley. Today, some Kawaiisu people are enrolled in the Tule River Indian Tribe.

Language
The Kawaiisu language, or Tehachapi, is a member of the Southern Numic division of the Uto-Aztecan language family. The Kawaiisu homeland was bordered by speakers of non-Numic Uto-Aztecan languages. The Kitanemuk to the south spoke Takic, the Tübatulabal to the north spoke the Tübatulabal language. The Yokuts (Monilabal) to the west were non-Uto-Aztecan. Because they also spoke a Southern Numic language, the Chemehuevi to the east are the closest linguistic relatives to Kawaiisu.

The Kawaiisu have been known by several other names, including the Caliente, Paiute, Tehachapi Valley Indians, and Tehachapi Indians, but they called themselves depending on dialect Nuwu, New-wa, Nu-oo-ah or Niwiwi, meaning "The People." The tribal designations as "Kawaiisu" or "Tehachapi Indians" are both English adoptions of the Yokutsan words used by the neighboring Yokuts. Today the Kawaiisu identify themselves as "Paiute" and the self-identification term Nüwa ("People") is commonly used by themselves and in the newspapers and media.

History
Before European contact, the Kawaiisu lived in permanent winter villages of 60 to 100 people. They often divided into smaller groups during the warmer months of the year and harvested California native plants in the mountains and deserts, and animals, for food and raw materials. They were divided in two regional groups: the "Desert Kawaiisu" and the "Mountain Kawaiisu".

The Kawaiisu are related by language and culture to the Southern Paiute of southwestern Nevada and the Chemehuevi of the eastern Mojave Desert of California. They may have originally lived in the desert before coming to the Tehachapi Mountains region, perhaps as early as 2000 years ago or before.

The Kawaiisu maintained friendly relations with the neighboring Kitanemuk and also participated in cooperative antelope drives (driving herds of antelope into traps so they could be more easily slaughtered) with the Yokuts, another group living in the San Joaquin Valley.

The Numic-speaking peoples of this area (Kawaiisu, Timbisha/Panamint Shoshone (Kohozi – "Koso/Panamint people"), Southern Paiute, Owens Valley Paiute (Pagazozi – "water people"), and Coso people) are famous for their petroglyphs and Rock art.

In 2011, The Kawaiisu Project received the Governor’s Historic Preservation Award for its efforts to document the Kaiwaiisu language and culture, including "the Handbook of the Kawaiisu, language teaching ... the Kawaiisu Language and Cultural Center, [and] the Kawaiisu exhibit at the Tehachapi Museum." A local newspaper noted in 2010, "There are also several hundred living Kawaiisu descendants, even though a pervasive misconception believes them to be all gone."

Population
Estimates for the pre-contact populations of most native groups in California have varied substantially. Alfred L. Kroeber proposed the combined 1770 population of the Kawaiisu as 1,500. He estimated the surviving population of the Kawaiisu in 1910 as 500.

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Talk:RJD2

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somebody edit this writing. It sucks. --199.111.195.28
 * Agreed. -WindFish 23:46, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup
The "Biography" section needs cleaning up. -- WindFish 23:48, 15 December 2005 (UTC) i wasnt sure how to do it, but i thought that the appearances should include the nba commercials on espn,which also feature ghostwriter. so does the habitat video, mosaic

I re-arranged the paragraphs, and got rid of that last line (which didn't sound very Encyclopedic (Look to RJD2 to...etc.) to make it more fluent, but it's by no means "done". More info + an complete timeline of RJ's career would be nice...I wouldn't no where to start with that... -- MoaM 4:51, 20 January 2005

Derekpblank 20 Feb 2006 Cleared out the biography section and replaced with Musical Career, which was more fitting and descriptive. Someone with more knowledge of RJD2, please fill in gaps.

Someone needs to add RJ and blueprint's new soul position album "Things Go Better with RJ and Al."

What do you people think of adding in a mention of the more and more popular use of RJ's music in commercials, noteably the use in Wells Fargo bank commercials in the Southern California radio commercials. Destructive Criticism 03:56, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, so I tried my hardest to add a useful biography section and adjusted other parts of the article so it flows better. I'm trying to get this article out of a "cleanup" state, any other suggestions? RedRobot 07:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

You might want to contact RJ.

What about RJD2's work with the MHz crew? Nothing in here regarding his relatively long run as their producer.

Official website <---this is not the official website, but some sort of cybersquatter. It is listed as the official site on his myspace profile though. The link should be removed, imho. -Anon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.27.234.231 (talk) 16:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, although this site is listed on the MySpace I think the domain has expired and has been purchased by a squatter. --BLM 07:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DotBen (talk • contribs)

The Insane Warrior
RJD2 has released an album, We Are The Doorways, under the name The Insane Warrior, featuring a lo-fi-hop sound harkening back to the retro sensibilities of his early hit single "The Horror". Should be included in discog. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 15:28, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Capitalization?
Is it officially RJD2, Rjd2, or rjd2? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjd2question (talk • contribs) 05:54, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

 * According to his website, it looks like "rjd2" is the correct (non) capitalization. Bored pedant (talk) 16:15, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

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Mid Importance?
I disagree with this assesment. A. J. has not even ran a cup race or full Busch season. He seems hardly even important in NASCAR. He should receive low importance. Casey14 00:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Foyt is of mid importance because he is A. J. Foyt's grandson and because he drove in 3 Indy 500's. -Drdisque 01:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Importance can be different for each WikiProject. He is definitely Mid for American Open Wheel Racing and I agree with Casey that he is Low for NASCAR. Royal broil  20:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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 * I've added an image that I got permission to use. I have tried to cite everything I can, but it's hard to cite something that is in table format. If you can think of a better way, feel free to move the citation. -Drdisque (talk) 05:14, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you for updating the article in area in which I felt concerned with. I believe this article to be well written about A. J. Foyt IV's sports career, I was able to verify information, the article is well referenced, good grammar and spelling, and for the majority of the article maintains a NPOV. I feel this article meets the Good Article minimum and needs to be worked on further to maintain its Good Article status. The addition of a Biography section, adding to section lengths, and removal of comments like The crash broke Junqueira's back and blame was placed mainly on Foyt. in which flirts with a NPOV and is referenced from a sports writers opinion. The Personal life section could be merged into a newly created section for his Biography. The addition of images, section length, and references should the main focus momentarily. Use the article about Phil Simms as an example in improving this article if you need too. Jahnx (talk) 08:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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There is at least one scok/meat puppet amongst them. -Splash 22:09, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

 * It's a lie and Sam Hocevar knows well about it. BTW wikiKto has now 1 500 articles ; when will it be enough to apply again ???

à seule fin d'archives
Si longtemps après la bagarre, il reste mille occurrences de WikiKto si l'on tape ce mot sur Google et + de cent rien que sur le moteur interne de recherche de notre wikipédia.

Un peu comme pour l'U.P.R. ou Nabilla, une telle entrée a piétiné longtemps à la porte de certains wikis car des fans y témoignaient d'un trop grand empressement.

Heureusement, l'article demeure sur le wiki portugais :

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiKto

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User talk:Siriusblack

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Quo

Quo may refer to:

 * Quo (group), a 1990s hip hop group, or their 1994 album
 * Quo (Status Quo album), 1974
 * Quo (magazine), a Spanish-language magazine
 * Akwa Ibom Airport, IATA airport code "QUO"

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lots of issues | leave me a message 06:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

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Face frame

A face frame in cabinet making is the frame fixed to the front of a cabinet carcass which obscures the edges of the carcass and provides the fixing point for doors and other external hardware. A face frame provides strength to the front of a cabinet and is also considered a visual feature of particular styles of furniture.

Face frames are a feature of traditional cabinetry which have been replaced in many instances today by frameless cabinets which make use of edge banding to conceal the edge of the carcass. This is most commonly seen in European modular-style kitchens.

Construction
A face frame is simply a framework made up of stiles (vertical pieces) and rails (horizontal pieces) that’s installed on the front of a case. Face frames are composed of a set of intersecting frame members that are joined to one another using one of a selection of woodworking joints. most common joints used are the butt joint or mortise and tenon. The frames consist of vertical stiles and horizontal rails. Individual compartments within the cabinet are divided by mid-stiles and mid-rails. Individual drawers are usually separated by mid-rails and mid-stiles occur between doors and wherever vertical partitions exist within the cabinet (see image Parts of a face frame).

The frame members are generally made from plain rectangular stock but are often visually enhanced through the application of cock beading or applied mouldings. Typically a frame member will be between 25mm to 50mm in width, depending upon the application and the desired appearance of the cabinet. For built in cabinets, it is common for stiles that are to abut a wall to be cut wider than the final size so that these may be scribed to the shape of the wall. This compensates for out of plumb or uneven walls, which are common in many houses.

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Cameo lighting

In film, cameo lighting is any lighting which has the talent in light, accentuating them and maybe a few props in a scene. It is often done using spotlights with barn doors. Cameo lighting derives its name from the art form in which a light relief figure is set against a darker background. It helps focus on the subject and not its environment. Cameo lighting can be used with a fill light, which reduces its starkness. It is the opposite of a silhouette, another type of chiaroscuro lighting.

A problem with cameo lighting is that it can lead to color distortion and noise in the darkest areas.

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Acorn to Oak - LDS University in Argentina
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Nomination of Acorn to Oak Foundation for deletion
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User talk:Svetlana Miljkovic~enwiki

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Images of Romeo and Juliet in Sarajevo
Hi !

I've just seen the images Image:Brckic and ismic dead.jpg and Image:Rjsarajevo1.jpg, and I must say that I find their copyright status a little bit dubious; what makes you say taht these images were released in the Public Domain ?

By theway I restored the image of Sniper Alley, I know that it isn't that great (it was taken from a moving vehicle of the IFOR), but it's better to illustrate the article in the most complete possible way, and if the photo is relevant to two articles, so be it...

Also, it is better to use only "thumb" when possible, because "thumb|300px" overrides user's preferences as for the size of thumbs, and it may look awfully small on big screens, or too large on small ones.

Cheers ! Rama 07:01, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Copyright issues
I do not know about Serbian law, but in France or in the United States, now, a work is copyrighted once it is created. Mentions such as "Copyright (c) 2005 Foobar" are there to make this explicit, but are not necessary for any legal purpose. You should in fact assume that anything recent found anywhere is copyrighted under an unfree license unless it says otherwise explicitly. David.Monniaux 08:52, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, I am very much afraid that David is right. Perhaps we could try to write to the families of Admira Ismić and Boško Brkić and ask them to donate of photograph of the couple, but of course, this would involve some research.
 * For the images of the bodies on the bridge, I fear that it will be difficult to find free images (our best chance for this might be to find French Blue Helmets who would by chance have taken photographs of the scene, but this sounds really non-trivial).
 * I hope that you are not too disapointed, I know that these issues can be quite frustrating sometimes. Cheers ! Rama 09:04, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Hello ! Thank you for your message. I am sorry to have been the bearer of bad news, and I am happy to see that you do not get discouraged by them.
 * Do not worry about the article itself, only the images would be deleted in case of copyright problem. By the way, I will try to see whether something can be done using the fair use provision (but it would really be much better to have Free images, of course).
 * I am very much interested in the War in Bosnia, so I appreciate your efforts on the this respect. Cheers and see you around ! Rama 17:46, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello ! I have modified the information of these images to claim them as fair use, if you want to review the rational, and possibly make it more precise. This way, the copyright information should be both exact and compatible with usage on Wikipedia. Cheers ! Rama 10:30, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

 * No problem, really. And if you are worried about something, do not hesitate to ask me (or someone else), we'll be glad to help you to help us ! Cheers and happy holiday ! Rama 14:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Ipak je svet mali :)
Eh, pa di si ti! Ajde mi se javi na email, dcabrilo@gmail.com ili ICQ (7366253), da se cujemo i vidimo gde je ko :) --Dejan &#268;abrilo 02:18, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Cirilica
Sto se tice cirilici na Windows, mozes postaviti si srpsku tipkovnicu u Control Panelu.

Maine, je li? Mozda poznajes jednog mog - e kako se kaze na srpskom? - bivseg "su-klasnika" iz skole... --VKokielov 05:33, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Znas, previse vremena i...Necu ulaziti. Dovoljno je, da znam.  Ostalo ce se projasniti.  Mozda imam talant do jezika.
 * Nasi su u Maineu?! ZAISTA JESU?!  Nikad ne bih vjerovao.  Sto oni tamo rade?  Pa naime danas sam citao statistike Cenzusa.  Je li si, naprimjer, znala da vas (Srbohrvata ;) ) ima u zemlji gotovo dvije sto tisuca, dok nas (ruskogovorjaschih) ima samo (!) nekih tamo sedam sto tisuca? (Uglavnom smo Zidovi).  Al ipak nas ima vise nego Poljaka, kojih ima preko sest sto pedeset...:)   Saosjecam zbog cinjenice, sto ruski krije druge slavenske jezike sjenom...Djelomicno i zbog toga sam zapoceo uciti -- cinilo mi se nekako nepravedno sto Bugari i Poljaci su ucili ruski svi, a nasi kad govore poljski ili srpski mozes cuti moskovski "accent".  --VKokielov 06:01, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Ja cu prestati prelaziti medu "srpskim" i "hrvatskim", jer osecam se sizofrenicno. (A tako se osecam, jer latinica mi ide hrvatsko a cirilica hrvatsko ne ide.  Ja sam idealni budala za vasih nacionalista, u ovom pogledu -- u potpunom sam skladu s njihovim shemama.)
 * Poznavao sam ovde neko vreme jednu Hrvaticu. Znaci setamo se Manhattanom, i iznenad ona mi rece: stoj.  I cujemo...vas jezik!  Olele.  Pitam:  odakle su?   Ona kaze: iz Sarajeva.  Odgovaram njoj: znas, ja zaboravljam da je Jugoslavija "such a big place."  "Yes," kaze, "for such a small country."  --VKokielov 06:12, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hvala na razgovoru. Ostat cemo u vezi, nadam se.  --VKokielov 06:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: I don't understand...
Hello Lana,

Is response to your inquiry, as Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia anyone can edit; it isn't really possible to avoid vandalism. The only thing possible is to watch for it, remove it and warn whoever made it that he/she will be blocked if he/she does it again. We have a volunteer organisation for that, the Counter Vandalism Unit. We use our watchlists for spotting vandalism, by clicking on the "diff" buttons, we check what changes have been made and remove them. Some dedicated anti-vandals engage in what is called RC patrol and that means checking the recent changes section for vandalism. We are usually pretty effective, but there have been times when things have gone terribly wrong. For example, once someone vandalised the page of the Norwegian Prime Minister saying that he had been in prison for rape. It took us 22 hours to notice and correct that, how many readers do you think read that false information? Currently, the most vandalised article is George W. Bush where about 70% of edits to that page are vandalism or someone removing it.

I hope this has been enlightening,

Izehar (talk) 11:38, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

PS there are other Serbian Wikipedians I have spoken to in the past - User:PANONIAN and User:HolyRomanEmperor (HRE is actually Croatian, but lives in Belgrade). You may also want to enter your name to Category:Wikipedians in Serbia and Montenegro Izehar (talk) 11:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

I see that User:Izehar has already introduced me. :) Greetings, fellow wikipedian! HolyRomanEmperor 12:28, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Sveti rimski car, moliću lepo. :) Do you need any assistence on a mater or two currently? HolyRomanEmperor 12:57, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Nominovan sam za administratora ovde. Da li bi(ste) bili/a ljubazni i glasali za mene (ako se slazete)? HolyRomanEmperor 16:51, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

See that for yourself. :) Hope to hear from you soon. HolyRomanEmperor 15:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

What do you think of the articles that I contributed (mostly me): Duklja, Zeta (state), Jovan Vladimir, Stefan Voislav, Mihailo Voislav, Lika and somewhat also Pagania, Travunia, Zahumlje and Skadar? HolyRomanEmperor 15:38, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: links you sent
OK. Happy New Year! --HolyRomanEmperor 17:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:JZaritsky.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:JZaritsky.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this:.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. Sherool (talk) 17:31, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image
Ok, best of luck with the permission hunting. Just please remember to ask for the right kind of permission. Unfortunately the "Hey, can I use this image on Wikipedia" "Sure" kind of permission is not good enough, we need explicit permission to actualy re-distribute the images under a free license. Permission to use is kinda like getting permission to use something inside your factory only (the en.wikipedia.org site is our "factory"), what we need is permission to include it in our actual product (the content we produce that is freely available (under the terms of the GFDL) for others to use, build upon or even sell, is our product). --Sherool (talk) 21:55, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry
I thought u maybe didnt know for this option. I hope no harm done:).... Luka Jačov 16:39, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Facwieck.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Facwieck.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this:.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. Shyam ( T / C ) 19:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Please mention the license information in which it is release, like GFDL, Public domain, CC, etc. Thanks, Shyam  ( T / C ) 17:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:John zaritsky.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:John zaritsky.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this:.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. Sherool (talk) 12:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Copied from my talk page. --Sherool (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi,

 * I uploaded again the photo, after deletion, and provided the email that gave us the permission to use the picture from the owner of the photo! I don't know what else to add in order for photo to stay on!?!? thanks,

 * Lana

 * Svetlana Miljkovic 14:02, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Where is this e-mail? I can't see it anywhere. Also what kind of permission did you get? Did you rely get permission to say that anyone could do anyting with the image, or did you just get permission to use it on the article. Unfortunately there is a significant difference and if you only got permission to use the image it is not free enough to be used on Wikipedia because our content need to be re-usable by other people too, not just on Wikipedia itself. If you do have theyr permission to release the image under a suitable free license please read Confirmation of permission on how to log the proof of this with the foundation. Thanks. --Sherool (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Ah I see, we are talking about two different images here. The e-mail is located at Image:JZaritsky.jpg, but that image is used under a fair use claim. I was talking about Image:John zaritsky.jpg wich was tagged with a "free use for any purpose" tag. I've just deleted the unused duplicate.

 * Anyway regarding permission be sure to ask for the right kind of permission, regular "sure you can use the image" kind of permission is just not enough (see this e-mail on the subject. What we need is an explicit permission to make the image avaialbe for others (re-distribute) under a free license compatable with the GFDL license (must allow modification, and commercial use). Hope that clears it up. Thanks. --Sherool (talk) 15:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Article Improvement Belgrade
You may wish to vote for Belgrade at the Article Improvement Drive page, here. --estavisti 21:48, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Invitation
Hello! I invite you to join the WikiProject Serbia. All the best, -- serbiana -  talk  02:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Podrška
Imaš moju podršku u borbi protiv nacionalizma. To se naročito odnosi na pomoć pri pisanju eventualnog članka u Vremenu o sr: Wikipediji. Moja elektronska adresa: copavi_zagorac(a)yahoo.com -  Pozdrav!

Sloba - Izabrani članak.
Da li bi glasala na ovoj stranici za to da li članak o SM-u da bude izabrani ili ne? Glasaj, dok si još administratorka, molim te. Pozdrav. --Pockey 16:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Au, pa ja sam mislio da si ti administratorka, pa sam te zato zamolio da glasaš. Toliko se zapelo da ovo bude izabrani članak, a uopšte nije dovršen. Gde će taj novi članak o Srebrenici biti postavljen? Ako ikako mogu da pomognem, tu sam. --Pockey 21:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Priznanje za demokratiju
Posle priznanja za vredno delovanje, dodeljujem ti i priznanje za demokratiju zbog hrabrosti i iskrenosti! Ikonicu ću ti staviti na ovu i na onu korisničku stranu. --Pockey 17:50, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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I was never on sezamnet or sezampro, but I was on SETNet, and wrote for Svet kompjutera, maybe yousaw my name there. Anyway, I saw something you wrote on sr wiki but it turned out that you have just translated it, that's all. Nikola 06:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

 * No. What you translated was completely wrong, and written in such a way that it was obviously written by someone who knows that it is wrong and is just spreading propaganda. If someone writes such things, he or she should not be on the list.

 * Looking through your work now however, I see that you don't follow your own advice, as you obviously have an agenda to push, and are pushing it on Wikipedia. To this date, it is not known with 100 % certainty who fired the shots, but it is greatly believed that shots came from the Serbian side. Right, if we don't know who did it, it must be those evil Serbs again. Not to mention that you implied that it is known with high certainty who fired the shots (not 100%, but maybe 90% or 80%...) while in reality there is not even 1% certainty, no one has the slightest idea who fired the shots. Nikola 07:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for Choosing Belgrade
Posted by (^'-')^ Covington 07:13, 1 May 2006 (UTC) on behalf of the the AID Maintenance Team

Re: i have a question
Hi, your problem is that "Marjan" is the title of a disambiguation page. Your link is rendered as bold text because it is what is known as a self link, that is it refeer to the page it's on. What you need to do is come up with a new unique title for the article you want to write about the lion, I would suggest Marjan (lion) (I took the libery of changing the link from the disambiguation page to this), that is typicaly the way it's done when several things have the same name. --Sherool (talk) 22:58, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: last time....
Hi. The logo tag is only to be used for actual logos, so the picture of the biscuit box should not be labeled as a logo. The picture does not fall into any of the obvious categories so you would have to use the tag, combined with a fair use rationale. Consider how much the image would add to the article though, fair use images should only be used if they add significantly to the article, and only if no free alternatives exist. In this case it would for example be better (if possible) to get hold of a biscuit box and take a photo of it yourself (preferably from a bit of an angle so it's not just a "copy" of the box art), maybe open it up and pile up a few biscits next to it and stuff like that.

Oh, and don't worry about "bugging" me with questions. If you find it helpfull I don't mind answering the ocational question as best as I can. --Sherool (talk) 07:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Iranian peoples
Thanks for the kind words! I do try to please. ;) Tombseye 16:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Yeah, thanks. :) See you around. — Khoikhoi 17:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

jes li tu?
Nadam se da nisam uvrijedio time sto sam napisao.

Ako jesam, reci. Molim. --VKokielov 17:10, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

translations
I am replying to your post on the User talk:Pauk. If you need any help with Russian, write to my User talk:Vald. - Vald 22:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

how to respond to a vandal
Sorry, but I was away from wikipedia for a few hours and just now saw your message. I see that User:Rama's Arrow already put a warning on that anonymous editor's talk page. In the future, when something like this happens, you or any other editor can warn the vandal yourself. See Vandalism (shortcut is WP:VAND). The only thing that requires an admin is the actual block after multiple warnings. Once the vandal has been warned multiple times, you can post a message to Administrator intervention against vandalism (shortcut is WP:AIV). That page is monitored by many admins and should bring a quick response. But again, blocks are usually not done unless a vandal has already recieved 3 or 4 escalating warnings. If you have any further questions, let me know. Thanks. --rogerd 04:09, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

sr
Pokušavam da trpim koliko mogu. Izneo bih čitav niz zamerki za veliki broj neneutralnih članaka koji su sramota i ruglo. Nadam se da će postojati više korisnika sličnih nama koji će se u budućnosti suprostaviti nazadnosti. Pozdrav! --Pockey 21:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Nestala
Trazi se.

Koji god je razlog, nemoj nestati bez opomene. Mi smo vruci istocni narod i nerviramo se. --VKokielov 20:10, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Arbidol
The edit summary I left on that page was pretty vague, haha. All I was doing was replacing a link to Oral, since that's a disambiguation page, with oral. :) Bwhack 14:58, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Daniela Mercury
You ran into a very uncommon and confusing problem. When you copied and pasted the image name you somehow picked up a invisible control character (most likely) (notice the %E2%80%8E stuff at the end of the red image url you inserted). Try inserting the image again, if the same thing happens place the cursur imedeately after the end of the image name and press backspace, this will erease the invisible character (you should see no difference, that is the last "g" in the filename should still be there), then try to preview again.

Oh, and by the way don't upload album covers to commons, they don't accept unfree material (fair use) there so it will just get deleted. --Sherool (talk) 06:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Trazi se ponovno
Moram reci, taj blog...;) Salim se.  Ustvari, ne razumijem zasto se ljudi petljaju u tude stvari.  Deset godina kasnije, tko jos uvijek zna sto je Bosna?  Nitko -- old news.  Medutim, jedan mali Izrael, ali ako neces ga nazvati kojim lijepim imenom, onda nisi muskarac.  Fif.  --VKokielov 03:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Povratak
Ćao, Svetlana. Verovatno me se ne sećaš, ali sada sam admin na srpskoj vikipediji. Nedavno sam čitao neke o tvoje članke. Odlični su (iako se ne razumem u to vrlo dobro) i želim da te pozovem nazad. Znam šta su razlozi tvog odlaska, ali mislim da se tako nešto više neće ponoviti i da treba okrenuti novi list.

Možda ćeš se naljutiti, ali moram da dodam da ni ti nisi postupila najbolje. Elem, srpska vikipedija je trenutno u fazi raspadanja, a potreban nam je neko ko će pisati članke. A i vidim da si duhovita, pošto nam je i to preko potrebno. :-)

Zato, molim te, razmisli. Mislim da bi se profesorka Snežana i Goldfinger jako obradovali ako bi se vratila. Poz. BokicaK 08:12, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Slažem se da sr: ima dosta POV članaka, ali to je nešto neizbežno. Uh... Srebrenica... Ne razumem se najbolje u to i ne bih da pričam o tome. Gledao sam samo neke komentare na bs: sr: i en:, pa ti mogu reći da su se Bosanci poneli prilično pe***ski, sa njihovim člankom-kukavičjim jajetom. Izvini, ali moram ti prebaciti da je diskusija o našem članku krenula po zlu kada si prozvala Manojla i dalje ti je poznato. U ove pola godine, sr: je preturila mnogo preko glave, tako da su admini sada prilično naoštreni ako diskusija nije u vezi sa nekim člankom ili ide po ličnoj osnovi. Takođe, osetljivi članci koji ne navode izvore ili reference će biti okićeni oni lepim tagovima (ovako ću barem ja raditi). Što se tiče sukoba, lično pokušavam da budem iznad njih i uvek težim nekakvom kompromisu.

 * Boris me je duboko razočarao svojim delovanjem i on je sada istorija. Za Nikolu ne znam, nisam imao ništa sa njim, ali sam čuo da je malo čvršći, mada mi ne deluje kao neko sa kim se nije moguće sporazumeti.

 * Čvrsto verujem da je srpska vikipedija prilično otvorena i spremnija za saradnju od one druge dve.

BokicaK 10:02, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Aj se vratit. Aj Svetlana.  Aj i ja cu se vratit, al necu bez tebe (bi bilo krsenje rijeci :) ) --VKokielov 13:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You have lived too long in this country. Please realize that the Croatian and (God save me) Bosnian Wikipedias aren't any less political than the Serbian.  The result is a "balance of power".  You needn't touch it; you can't touch it.  If you could, there'd be one Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia.  The fact that you are a very proud exception to the general rule of factional division -- straight out of a book -- and the fact that you have earned your right to speak -- all that doesn't change the organic need for this power balance.  --VKokielov 13:23, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Ne odgovoraš mi, pa se bojim da sam te nekako uvredio, što mi iskreno nije bila namera. Da ne pominjem da kod imas dosta kredita :)A bura na srpskoj vikipediji je prošla. BokicaK 05:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Edit count
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About pictures of Pakistani memorabilia
I would love to do this for you, however, I'm stuck in mud. I'm at college right now, and I dont have my Pakistani CD's and cans with me. They are all at my parent's house. I'm going home next month, but that will be quite a long time. If you want some quicker results, I could refer you to some other Pakistani wiki friends of mine who do have that stuff with them on hand. They will be happy to help you more quickly. Nevertheless, I will put on some pictures, once I get ahold of what I have. They wont come on any time soon though. But if you need some soon, I will get my friends to help. Thanks! Take care! Afghan Historian 16:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar time!
It was about time you received some recognition. :)

I noticed that you didn't like the "National" Serbo-Croat wikipedias and how VKokielov mentioned that there would be a Serbo-Croatian one - well, there is ;D. Also, what precisely were the reasons for your withdrawal? --PaxEquilibrium 19:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Svetlana left sr:wiki because she was insulted by some rather shameless community members. As far as I know, those community members have gone or have been swept aside. --VKokielov 02:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Da nije Boris Malagurski? --PaxEquilibrium 13:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

 * "Odakle sam?" Hmmm... komplicirano pitanje. Sada zivim u Beogradu. --PaxEquilibrium 18:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Pa, niti sam toliko los niti toliko dobar da zasluzim taj nick. :)

 * Pa, bila je sinemanija nedavno... --PaxEquilibrium 16:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Translation
Hello Svetlana. Sure I can help you. But since I do not know much about this particular subject my translation verges on verbatim. You might want to "beautify" the text. The Original was: ''Unklar ist, wie hoch der Anteil der Zwölfer-Schiiten (Imamiten) an der Bevölkerung Pakistans ist. Die meisten Schätzungen gehen von 15 Prozent aus. Sie sind in Karatschi, Lahore, Sialkot und Jhang sowie in den Northern Areas stark vertreten. Während der schiitischen Trauerzeremonien im Muharram kommt es in Pakistan häufig zu blutigen Auseinandersetzungen. Daneben sind in Pakistan zwei ismailitische Gruppierungen vertreten. Die Bohras leben vor allem in Karatschi, die Nizaris sind daneben vornehmlich in den Nordgebieten (Gilgit und Hunza) sowie Chitral (Nordwestprovinz) vertreten. Eine schiitische Sondergruppe im äußersten Norden sind die Nurbakhshis.''

My first try is: ''It is unclear howlarge the proportion of Twelvers in the pakistani population is. Most approximations assume 15 percent. Twelvers are higly represented in Karatschi, Lahore, Sialkot and Jhang as well as the Northern Areas. Frequently there are fights and blodshed during the shi'ite mourning ceremonies in Muharram. Furthermore there are two ismaili fractions. The Bohras live mainly in Karatschi, the Nizari in the Nothern Areas (Gilgit and Hunza) as well as Chitral. Another group in the outermost north are the Nurbakhshi.'' -- PeeCee 10:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Maine
1- I believe you misread, I am not from Montenegro, although I am deeply interested by Montenegro. 2- I was in Maine the last time in 2001. I was in Ogunquit, Maine. The beach. --Petrovic-Njegos 13:57, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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Ćao Svetlana. Pokrenut je proces otvaranja bloga naše Vikipedije na na Blogu B92, a sajt B92 je najposećeniji sajt u SRB i regionu. Mene su odabrali da budem jedan od glavnih izvođača radova. Kako nije jednostavno da sam pišem postove, tu su neophodni još neki ljudi dobre volje koji bi pomogli u pisanju. Da li si voljna da se pridružiš timu koji bi radio na tom blogu? Za početak odlučeno je da se piše o razvitku Vikipedije na srpskom jeziku (istorija i sažeta geneza razvoja.). Blog bi trebalo da startuje najkasnije prvih dana 2007. godine, a ispis prvog posta se mora odraditi što je pre moguće. Ja sam krenuo sa pisanjem i prešao sam uvod. Potrebne su nam informacije o najaktivnijim korisnicima, kao i o onima koji pišu isključivo o određenim oblastima, kao što si ti npr. :). Javi mi na mail pokrajac--a--gmail.com . Poz i srećna Nova godina! --Pockey 02:23, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Prvi tekst je praktično gotov i biće postavljen na blogu danas ili sutra. Dakle, ako si zainteresovana za učešće javi mi se. Poz! --Pockey 14:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hi Svetlana.. I think I have uploaded the picture to wikicommons.. but it seems that i did not categorize it and add some information make it reachable..anyway.. below is the link for it in commons. I tried to update the picture but I can at the moment because the admins are doing something to the data base or something like that. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:DNA_Structure.jpg --A Obeidat 16:39, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Hej Lana!
kaj od tebe ni zvuka? ali si se zgubila popolnoma?

u svakom slucaju pisem povodom ovoga: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1611396,00.html

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Ja sam imao jednu avanturu s srpkinjama u Starbucksu ondje gdje radim...ako ces detalje, mogu ih i poslati..smijesno bjese. :D

--VKokielov 17:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

please note
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vratio se
ja se vratio iz Zagreba. --VKokielov 18:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

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nadam se da si u redu, kao i ostala nova engleska. --VKokielov 01:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

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Kada sljedeci put upadnes ovamo
Ja sam jos uvijek tu! Bilo bi ne sasvim, potpuno lose ako bi se javila.

--VKokielov (talk) 02:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Ne mogu ja trpit ovaj internet, jer nikada ne znas sto druga stranka (ti, ja, Kraljevic Marko -- bezveze) misli. Svetlana, ako ti meni nesto zamjeras, reci mi jednom i ja cu jednom tebe ostavit na miru.  Visiti u vazduhu nit meni nit tebi ne sluzi.  --VKokielov (talk) 16:02, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Uzgred, to je bila samo konstatacija stanja. Stvarno je tako s Internetom.  --VKokielov (talk) 16:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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Battle of West Hunan

The Battle of West Hunan, also known as the Battle of Xuefeng Mountains and the Zhijiang Campaign , was the Japanese invasion of west Hunan and the subsequent Allied counterattack that occurred between 6 April and 7 June 1945, during the last months of the Second Sino-Japanese War. Japanese strategic aims for this campaign were to seize Chinese airfields and secure railroads in West Hunan, and to achieve a decisive victory that their depleted land forces needed.

This campaign, if successful, would also have allowed Japan to attack Sichuan and eventually the Chinese wartime capital Chongqing. Although Japan was able to make initial headways, Chinese forces with air support from the Americans were able to turn the tide and forced the Japanese into a rout, recovering a substantial amount of lost ground.

This was the last major Japanese offensive, and the last of 22 major battles during the war to involve more than 100,000 troops. Concurrently, the Chinese managed to repel a Japanese offensive in Henan and Hubei and launched a successful attack on Japanese forces in Guangxi, turning the course of the war sharply in China's favor even as they prepared to launch a full-scale counterattack across South China.

Background
By April 1945, China had already been at war with Japan for more than seven years. Both nations were exhausted by years of battles, bombings and blockades. From 1941–1943, both sides maintained a "dynamic equilibrium", where field engagements were often numerous, involved large numbers of troops and produced high casualty counts, but the results of which were mostly indecisive. Operation Ichi-Go in 1944 changed the status quo, as Japanese forces were able to break through the inadequate Chinese defenses and occupy eastern Henan, a corridor in the eastern parts of Hunan through Changsha and eastern parts of Guangxi through Guilin–Liuzhou, connecting Japanese-held areas from north to south in a continuous railway corridor.

However, the Japanese victory resulted in very little actual benefit for them: the operation drained Japanese manpower and a weakened Japanese army had to defend a longer front with more partisan activity in occupied areas. The opening up of north-south railway connections did little to improve Japanese logistics, for only one train ran from Guangzhou to Wuhan in April 1945, and due to fuel shortages the primary mode of transportation for Japanese troops was on foot.

On the other hand, although the Chinese government in Chongqing had lost land access to their remaining forces in Zhejiang, Anhui and Jiangxi with their defeat in Ichi-Go, Chinese fortunes in the war improved with the retaking of northern Burma by Allied and Chinese forces. On 4 February 1945, the first convoy of trucks reached Kunming from the British railhead in Ledo, India, over the newly completed Stilwell Road and the northern section of the Burma Road; using this road link, over 50,000 tonnes of petroleum started to arrive into China every month. By April 1945, enough materiel had become available to the Chinese army to equip 35 divisions with American equipment. A major counter offensive was planned.

China

 * Commander-in-Chief: He Yingqin
 * 3rd Front Army: Tang Enbo
 * 27th Army Group: Li Yutang
 * 26th Corps: Ting Chih-pan
 * 41st Division: Tung Gee-Tao
 * 4th Division: Chiang Hsiu-jen
 * 94th Corps: Mu Ting-fang
 * 5th Division: Li Tse-fen
 * 43rd Division: Li Shih-lin
 * 121st Division: Ch Ching-min
 * New 6th Corps: Liao Yao-hsiang
 * 14th Division: Lung Tien-wu
 * New 22nd Division: Li Tao

 * 4th Front Army: Wang Yao-wu
 * 18th Corps: Hu Lien
 * 11th Division: Yang Po-tao
 * 18th Division: Chin Tao-shan
 * 118th Division: Tai Pu
 * 73rd Corps: Han Chun
 * 15th Division: Liang Chi-lu
 * 77th Division: Tang Sheng-hai
 * 193rd Division: Hsiao Chuang-kuang
 * 74th Corps: Shih Chung-cheng
 * 51st Division: Chao Chih-tao
 * 57th Division: Li Yen
 * 58th Division: Tsai Jen-chieh
 * 100th Corps: Li Tien-hsia
 * 19th Division: Yang Yin
 * 63rd Division: Hsu Chih-hsiu
 * 13th Division: Chin Li-san
 * 6th Provincial Division: Chao Chi-ping

 * assorted independent units

 * 10th Army Group; Wang Ching-chiu
 * 39th Corps; Liu Shang-chih (uncommitted)
 * 51st Division; Shih Hun-hsi
 * 92nd Corps; Hou Ching-ju
 * 21st Division; Li Tse-fen
 * 142nd Division; Li Chun-ling (uncommitted)

 * Air Support (400 aircraft)
 * Chinese Air Force
 * 1st Air Group
 * 2nd Air Group
 * 3rd Air Group
 * 5th Air Group
 * U.S. Air Force
 * 14th Air Force

Sources

Japan
Sources
 * 20th Army: Ichirō Banzai 板西一良
 * 34th Division: Takeo Ban 伴健雄
 * 47th Division: Hiroshi Watanabe 渡辺洋
 * 68th Division: Mikio Tsutsumi 堤三樹男
 * 116th Division: Ginnosuke Uchida 内田銀之助
 * Elements of the 64th Division
 * 86th Independent Mixed Brigade

Japanese strategic objectives
For this campaign, the Imperial Japanese had three main objectives. The first of which was to neutralize the Chinese airfield at Zhijiang, whose complement of USAAF and ROCAF was ensuring Allied air superiority in the region and a base for U.S. bombers, either by physically reaching the airfield, located only 435 km from Chongqing, and securing it, or simply by pressing forward close enough to the airfield to force the Chinese to destroy the installation.

Their second objective was to secure their control of the Hunan-Guangxi and Guangzhou-Hankou railways. A third objective was to preemptively disrupt the planned Chinese offensive in the region.

Preparations for battle
By this point of the war, Japan was losing the battle in Burma and facing constant attacks from Chinese forces in the country side. Spare troops for this campaign were limited. The Japanese army began preparations for the battle in March 1945, constructing two highways with forced Chinese labor: the Heng-Shao Highway ran from Hengyang in a northwest direction to Shaoyang, a Japanese-controlled city in central Hunan a mere 100 km from Zhijiang; and the Tan-Shao Highway from Xiangtan, southwest to Shaoyang. Supplies and equipment were stockpiled near Shaoyang, to be the headquarters of the Japanese 20th Corps, led by Ichirō Banzai. Under it were the Japanese 34th, 47th, 64th, 68th and 116th Divisions, as well as the 86th Independent Brigade, massing at various locations across Hunan, for a total of 80,000 men by early April.

In response, the Chinese National Military Council dispatched the 4th Front Army and the 10th and 27th Army Groups with He Yingqin as commander-in-chief. At the same time, it airlifted the entire New 6th Corps, an American-equipped corps and veterans of the Burma Expeditionary Force, from Kunming to Zhijiang. Chinese forces totaled 110,000 men in 20 divisions. They were supported by about 400 aircraft from the CAF 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th Air Groups and the USAAF 14th Air Force.

Battle
Japanese forces took over the outskirts of Hunan with little resistance. However, they didn't realize that the Chinese forces were well prepared for the Japanese assault. The mountainous terrain was ideal for ambushes and mortar bombardment on approaching Japanese forces in the lower grounds.

The Chinese also had air superiority in this battle. After some defeats Japan decided to retreat. However, Chinese forces gave chase and inflicted heavy casualties on the Japanese. The local Chinese guerrilla forces then attacked the Japanese positions. Japan ended up losing a large amount of territory that they once occupied.

The Japanese drove east while two smaller forces to the north and south moved generally parallel to the main column. The Chinese Combat Command's advisory and liaison system was immediately called into play. At a meeting on 14 April, the day after the Japanese general advance began, Generals Ho and McClure agreed on the basic plan to counter the enemy attack. Chinese armies would be concentrated to the north and south to prepare to strike the enemy advance in the flanks and rear. The Chinese center around Chihchiang would be strengthened by moving the New 6th Army, composed of two veteran divisions of the Burma campaign, into the area.

By late April, the New 6th Army began concentrating at Chihchiang. Although their deployment from Burma diverted scarce fuel from the U.S. Fourteenth Air Force, American airmen continued to fly repeated missions against the attacking Japanese. Meanwhile, other Chinese armies moved into position, the 94th to the south and the 100th and 18th to the north. Meanwhile, the 74th Army, defending the Chinese center on a fifty-mile front, was putting up a stout resistance, slowing the Japanese advance.

On 3 May a Chinese-American staff conference decided to counterattack a Japanese detachment near Wu-yang, seventy miles southeast of Chihchiang. The subsequent engagement by the 5th Division of the 94th Army on 5 and 6 May was completely successful. Over the next few days, the 5th and 121st Divisions, also of the 94th Army, repeatedly outflanked the Japanese and hustled them north. The Chinese 18th and 100th Armies moved into the Japanese rear. With the 94th Army threatening from the south, the Japanese were forced into a general retreat and by 7 June were back at their initial starting positions.

Casualties
After the battle, the Japanese first announced that they only had 11,000 casualties (5,000 KIA). They later revised the figures to include an additional 15,000 casualties "due to diseases". Finally, they admitted to a casualty figure of 27,000. On the other hand, the Chinese claimed to have inflicted on the Japanese 36,358 casualties, including 12,498 KIA. The Chinese sustained 20,660 casualties with 7,817 KIA, of which there were 823 officers.

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