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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!)  07:08, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

NetTest
Blatant advertisement. — brighterorange  (talk) 00:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * "We empower you..." How could it be contested that this is an ad? DeleteCastAStone 01:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete Advertisements have no place in Wikipedia. will381796 00:57, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as advert/nn/vanity. Empower this, baby! MCB 01:04, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Definite advertisement.
 * Also, is it a copyright violation if it is taken from their website? I'm new, wouldn't know. It is taken verbatim from the Google Cache of their site Cpaliga 01:15, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Ok, someone beat me to it.Cpaliga
 * It's a straight copy of the corporate blurb published by the company itself, which is of course copyrighted and not GFDL licenced. Copyright Judo has been applied.  I haven't looked to see whether the company meets the WP:CORP criteria. Uncle G 01:17, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Don't think it does, so delete. -- Миборовский U 01:22, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete copyvio and advert. -feydey 09:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
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Clint Holmes

Clinton Raymond Holmes (born 9 May 1946) is a British-born singer-songwriter and Las Vegas entertainer, and TV announcer.

Bio
He was born in Bournemouth, England, the son of an African-American jazz musician and an English opera singer. He was raised in Farnham, New York, a small village southwest of Buffalo.

Initially a vocal music student at Fredonia State College, Holmes left school for the U.S. Army during the Vietnam War. He spent his three-year enlistment (1967–1969) with the United States Army Chorus, and then remained in the Washington, D.C. area to launch his civilian career, singing in nightclubs.

Music career
In June 1972, Holmes released his first and only hit record, "Playground in My Mind". It didn't reach the Hot 100 chart until 24 March 1973, whereupon it rose to #2 on 16–23 June 1973. It became one of the biggest hits of the year internationally. A later single, Shiddle-ee-dee, reached number 74 on the Canadian AC charts later in 1973. The album Playground in My Mind reached number 20 in Canada.

The following account was given in the autobiography, Johnny Holliday: From Rock to Jock: "I also helped break a record at WWDC. It was a tune called 'Playground of My Mind,' written by Paul Vance, whom I had known from my WINS days in the Big Apple. Clint Holmes, an excellent talent just waiting to be discovered, recorded it. Clint had found his local audience at Mr. Day's in Georgetown and various other D.C. nightspots. When Clint's record promoter dropped the single off at WWDC, we just jumped all over it. It became a hit overnight. Clint is the sort of fellow you just automatically like the first time you meet him. He and I played tennis at Candy Cane Park in Silver Spring and shot a ton of hoops together. He's a good athlete. I couldn't be prouder of what Clint has accomplished in his career. After 'Playground' hit, he became Joan Rivers' sideman on her short-lived late night show on Fox, and then he got his own TV gig on WOR-TV in NYC."

Television
Holmes was the announcer for The Late Show Starring Joan Rivers (1986–1988), the initial broadcast offering of the then-new Fox Broadcasting Company. In 1991 he hosted "New York at Night," a talk show that aired on WWOR in New York City for a year and won a local Emmy.

In 1996, The New York Times Theater Review stated; "Comfortable Shoes" written and performed by Holmes: "Whether you choose to endure two and a half hours of Mr. Holmes acting and singing it out, with the assistance of seven other actors and singers, is up to your tolerance for ego-driven show-biz excursions into the orbit of the vanities. It is also dependent on your predisposition to Mr. Holmes's talents. And it has a lot to do with your need for an assertiveness-training manual in the guise of musical theater...it looks as if Mr. Holmes wrote the book on self-indulgence."

Holmes has been a Las Vegas show attraction since the early 1970s. In 2006, he closed his headlining show at Harrah's Las Vegas Casino, which renamed its main showroom for him. From 1990 to 1995, he hosted Honda Campus All-Star Challenge on the BET network, and, after the event became non-broadcast, continued to host the final matches through 2008. Most of Holmes' Vegas band members also appear in a locally popular R&B/jazz group, Santa Fe and The Fat City Horns. He appeared on the cruise ship Gallaxy, as an entertainer also starring Jane McDonald.

Holmes has annually returned to Buffalo each March to co-host the annual Variety Kids telethon on WKBW-TV.

With the opening of the Smith Center for the Performing Arts in 2012, Holmes performs monthly in the Cabaret Jazz Theater.

He performed "Auld Lang Syne" in the Smith Center in Las Vegas, following the New Year's celebration's firework show on January 1, 2016.

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Prittle Brook

The Prittle Brook is a 7.2 mile (11.59 km) watercourse in south Essex, England. A tributary of the River Roach, the brook rises in Thundersley and passes through Hadleigh, Leigh-on-Sea, Westcliff, Prittlewell, Rochford and discharges into the Roach and then into the North Sea via the Roach and Crouch estuaries.

Course
Prittle Brook rises in Thundersley near Kiln Road opposite Shipwrights Drive (51°33'38"N 0°35'40"E) it flows (partly culverted) north then east and under Rayleigh Road (A129). It emerges from a culvert near Prittle Close, and combines with another stream flowing from the north. Flowing eastwards, its course is through West Wood, then under private properties before crossing under Daws Heath Road. It then flows through private property again before reaching Dodds Grove Nature Reserve and then into Hadleigh Great Wood and Belfairs Wood. The brook formed a series of meanders to the north of Hadleigh Great Wood. These were 'tampered with after 1920 and most of the meanders cut off'.

A small tributary arises near The Crescent, Hadleigh and flows east under Woodfield Road, to the north of St. David’s Drive, then under Highlands  Boulevard and joins Prittle Brook to the rear of houses in Vardon Drive, Leigh-on-Sea (51°34'27"N 0°42'59"E). Another tributary arises in Hadleigh Great Wood and flows north east to join Prittle Brook at the boundary of the wood.

From Belfairs the brook flows east under Eastwood Road and broadly follows the alignment of Manchester Drive and Fairfax Drive – known as the Prittle Brook Greenway – to Prittlewell Chase  Southend. From the eastern end of the Greenway the Prittle Brook flows under Victoria Avenue (A127), through Priory Park and north, past London Southend Airport to Rochford and eventually joins with an arm of the River Roach (Fleethall Creek) at Sutton Bridge (51°34'27"N 0°42'59"E). The normal tidal limit of the Roach is about 150 metres south of Sutton Bridge.

The Prittle Brook has a catchment area of 20.18 km2 (4,987 acres).

Prittle Brook Greenway
A 5.7 km pathway (officially designated the "Prittle Brook Greenway" in 2010) enables walkers and cyclists to follow the section of the Brook from Belfairs, past Southend University Hospital to Roots Hall, effectively providing a route from Leigh into Southend which avoids the main roads. This pathway, built in the 1940s, follows the Prittle Brook as it passes under several roads; the bridge which leads to Our Lady of Lourdes School in Manchester Drive runs directly over the Brook. This part of the Brook's route has been urbanised since the 1930s, and the banks have been concreted east of the Belfairs Wood area. As a consequence, the velocity of the brook has greatly increased, a phenomenon particularly noticeable during and after heavy rain (see below).

The Prittle Brook Greenway was the subject of major improvement work between 2009 and 2012, during which the sections running parallel with Blenheim Chase and Prittlewell Chase were widened and signposted.

Flood defences
In September 1968, during the Great flood of 1968, the Prittle Brook overflowed and flooded houses in Daws Heath Road, Hadleigh and around Manchester Drive, Leigh-on-Sea. The brook was subsequently culverted and provided with concrete embankments west of Daws Heath Road. In 1972–3 the Prittle Brook Flood Relief scheme was constructed. This takes excess water from the brook at times of flood from an inlet structure west of Eastwood Road (51°33'04"N 0°38'45"E. Elevation 33.5 metres AOD), Leigh-on-Sea and transfers water through an underground tunnel. Another intake to the tunnel is adjacent to Manchester Drive (51°33’03.5”N 0°39’41.6”E).The tunnel is 2.5 metres in diameter and is formed from segmented concrete blocks, it was constructed by Murphy using a rotary drum excavator. The tunnel discharges water into the River Thames at an outfall on the foreshore at Chalkwell beach.

The water level in the Prittle Brook is continuously monitored. The Prittlewell Brook [sic] Monitoring Station is located in Belfairs Park (51°33'10.9"N 0°38'28.0"E); it comprises a concrete flume and equipment  cabinet. The current water level is accessible online.

Note: Coordinate 51.55109°N, 0.70207°W is at Priory Park, Southend on Sea

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Pearl Aday

Pearl Aday (born 1975) is an American singer. She is the adopted daughter of vocalist Michael Lee Aday, better known as Meat Loaf, and was a member of his touring band Neverland Express for nine years starting in the mid-1990s. She has appeared on numerous albums and in various tours and television performances with her father, both as backing singer and in duets. She has also been a backing singer for Mötley Crüe. She is currently the lead singer of her own band "Pearl" and has released her debut album on Megaforce/RED/Sony Music on January 19, 2010. Aday also co-organized the hard rock group Motor Sister with her husband Scott Ian, singing backing vocals.

Early life
Aday was born to Leslie G. Edmonds and Clark Pierson, who was a drummer in singer Janis Joplin's group, Full Tilt Boogie Band. She was adopted by Meat Loaf as a young child, after his marriage to Leslie. Pearl has a half sister named Amanda Aday.

Aday attended High School in Redding, Connecticut graduating from Joel Barlow High School in 1993. Her senior year she was the lead in the Senior Class Play How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying. Aday went to Emerson College in Boston, Massachusetts, majoring in creative writing, but shortly thereafter began a music career.

Career
In 1994, she was a backing singer for Meat Loaf's 1994 Everything Louder summer tour promoting the album Bat out of Hell II, as well as the follow-up tour in 1996, Born to Rock. She was a member of her father's backing band when they performed at the inaugural ball in 1997 for Bill Clinton. She became a full-fledged member of Neverland Express, Meat Loaf's touring band, from 1998-2003. In 2003, she sang on Meat Loaf's album Couldn't Have Said It Better on the duet "Man of Steel." On October 31, 2007, Pearl supported Meat Loaf one concert on his Seize the Night tour.

She was portrayed in the 2000 TV movie To Hell and Back by Elisabeth Lund.

She was featured on an album by the band Filter and was a backing singer for Mötley Crüe on their "Maximum Rock" tour, featured on the DVD release of the tour, "Lewd, Crued, and Tattooed." She was also with a Los Angeles-based band named Stella, fronted by Nancy Hower (Star Trek: Voyager), which broke up before releasing an album. She currently releases music with Pearl, a band in which she is the lead singer. The other musicians in the band are Mother Superior, best known for their work in The Rollins Band with Henry Rollins.

Aday is married to Anthrax guitarist Scott Ian. Her photographs appeared on Music of Mass Destruction: Live from Chicago released by Anthrax in 2004.

Aday now fronts the band Pearl which also features her husband Scott on guitar. In March 2008, they opened for Velvet Revolver in the UK.

Pearl opened for Meat Loaf's Casa de Carne Tour on July 4, 2008 (Bath, UK), July 11, 2008 (Castle Howard, York, UK), July 13, 2008 (Blickling Hall, Norfolk, UK), July 21, 2008 (Zitadelle Berlin, Germany) and on July 23, 2008 (Stadtpark Hamburg, Germany). In May 2009, she appeared on the FOX game show "Don't Forget the Lyrics" along with her father Meat Loaf and his duet partner Patti Russo: they won $500,000 for charity. She headlined her own 13-date 2010 US tour before rejoining Meat Loaf as an opening act in support of the Hang Cool Tour in 2010. In support of her first album, she also appeared on the January 21, 2010, episode of Jimmy Kimmel Live!. Both she and her husband took a break from their musical careers, as the couple had a son named Revel Young Ian on June 19, 2011.

Pearl

 * Little Immaculate White Fox (2010)
 * The Swing House Sessions (Live & Acoustic) (2011)
 * Heartbreak and Canyon Revelry (2018)

Pearl Aday has been featured on many different albums and compilations by various artists.

Meat Loaf

 * Welcome to the Neighbourhood – backing vocals
 * Live Around the World – backing vocals
 * The Very Best of Meat Loaf – backing vocals
 * VH1 Storytellers – backing vocals
 * Couldn't Have Said It Better – duet and backing vocals on "Man of Steel", also a UK single release
 * "Los Angeloser" – backing vocals on B-side "Boneyard"

Filter

 * Title of Record – backing vocals

Mother Pearl

 * Broken Thorny Crown – lead vocals

Ace Frehley

 * Anomaly – backing vocals

Motor Sister

 * Ride (2015) – lead vocals

Black Star Riders

 * Testify or Say Goodbye (2017)
 * What Will It Take (2019)

Armored Saint

 * Win Hands Down (2015) – backing vocals on "With a Full Head of Steam"

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A (musical note)

A or La is the sixth note and the tenth semitone of the fixed-do solfège.

Its enharmonic equivalents are B♭♭ (B double flat) which is a diatonic semitone above A♭ and G (G double sharp) which is a diatonic semitone below A♯.

"A" is generally used as a standard for tuning. When the orchestra tunes, the oboe plays an "A" and the rest of the instruments tune to match that pitch. Every string instrument in the orchestra has an A string, from which each player can tune the rest of their instrument.

"A" is also used in combination with a number (e.g. A-440) to label the pitch standard. The number designates the frequency in hertz. A lower number indicates a lower pitch.

The International Standards Organization (ISO) has standardized the pitch at A-440. However, tuning has varied over time, geographical region, or instrument maker. In 17th-century Europe, tunings ranged from about A-374 to A-403, approximately two to three semitones below A-440. Historical examples exist of instruments, tuning forks, or standards ranging from A-309 to A-455.3, a difference of almost six semitones. Although the official standard today is A-440, some orchestral groups and chamber groups prefer to tune a little higher, at A-442 or even A-444. Baroque pitch is usually cited as A-415, which is a semitone lower than modern pitch.

A0 is the lowest note on the standard piano. The octaves follow A1, A2, etc. A7 is a few pitches lower than C8, the highest note on the standard piano. The note "A" is not considered to be a certain milestone or mark to hit with voice as, for example, Tenor C is, but it can be extremely demanding in certain octaves.

Common scales beginning on A

 * A major: A B C♯ D E F♯ G♯ A
 * A natural minor: A B C D E F G A
 * A harmonic minor: A B C D E F G♯ A
 * A melodic minor ascending: A B C D E F♯ G♯ A
 * A melodic minor descending: A G F E D C B A

Diatonic scales

 * A Ionian: A B C♯ D E F♯ G♯ A
 * A Dorian: A B C D E F♯ G A
 * A Phrygian: A B♭ C D E F G A
 * A Lydian: A B C♯ D♯ E F♯ G♯ A
 * A Mixolydian: A B C♯ D E F♯ G A
 * A Aeolian: A B C D E F G A
 * A Locrian: A B♭ C D E♭ F G A

Jazz melodic minor

 * A Ascending melodic minor: A B C D E F♯ G♯ A
 * A Dorian ♭2: A B♭ C D E F♯ G A
 * A Lydian augmented: A B C♯ D♯ E♯ F♯ G♯ A
 * A Lydian dominant: A B C♯ D♯ E F♯ G A
 * A Mixolydian ♭6: A B C♯ D E F G A
 * A Locrian ♮2: A B C D E♭ F G A
 * A Altered: A B♭ C D♭ E♭ F G A

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Team Ninja

Team Ninja (チームニンジャ) is a Japanese video game developer, and a division of Koei Tecmo, founded in 1995 as a part of Tecmo. It was founded by Tomonobu Itagaki, and is best known for franchises such as Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive and Nioh.

Founding, Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden (1995–2009)
Team Ninja was formed by Tomonobu Itagaki from a group of game designers working at Tecmo specifically for the purpose of creating the home versions of the fighting game series Dead or Alive. During the mid-1990s, Japanese gaming company Tecmo was in financial trouble. Seeing how popular Sega's Virtua Fighter series was in Japan at the time, the management asked Tomonobu Itagaki to create a game similar to Virtua Fighter. In order to stand out from other fighting games, Team Ninja focused on making Dead or Alive provocative. Itagaki believed that violence and sexuality were needed for "true entertainment". In 1999, Team Ninja started work on a new Ninja Gaiden project, originally intended for arcades, later for the Dreamcast. Due to Sega exiting the console business, development was moved to the PlayStation 2. However, due to Itagaki being impressed by the technological capabilities of the new Xbox from Microsoft, development was moved to that platform. Ninja Gaiden would be released in 2004 to rave critical acclaim. In 2008, the action-adventure game Ninja Gaiden II for the Xbox 360 was published by Microsoft Game Studios, making it the first game created by Team Ninja to not be published by Tecmo; Tecmo Koei later released an enhanced version of Ninja Gaiden II on the PlayStation 3 as Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2.

Merger with Koei (2009–2013)
In 2009, it was announced that Tecmo and Koei would be merging. The newly founded Koei Tecmo would officially disband Tecmo in 2010. A year later all of Tecmo's assets were absorbed into Koei Tecmo, including IP and its subsidiaries and divisions. Team Ninja would continue as subsidiary of Koei Tecmo.

Team Ninja collaborated on multiple titles with Nintendo. In 2010, Team Ninja co-developed a new Metroid action-adventure game for Nintendo's Wii console, titled Metroid: Other M. A playable Stage from Other M would appear in the Nintendo 3DS game Dead or Alive: Dimensions, which was published by Nintendo in Europe and Australia. Team Ninja would in 2014 also collaborate with Omega Force on the development of Hyrule Warriors, an action game set in The Legend of Zelda universe, and with SEGA AM2 since 2012's Dead or Alive 5, co-developing an Arcade version of the title, as well as on bringing characters from Virtua Fighter to Dead or Alive.

Restructuring and Nioh (2013–present)
In 2013, following a reconstructing of Koei Tecmo, Team Ninja would cease to exist internally, being renamed Koei Tecmo Ichigaya, with Yosuke Hayashi subsequently becoming Head of the Ichigaya Development Group. The developer was also split into two distinct development teams, one led by Ninja Gaiden Sigma director Yosuke Hayashi and one led by Fatal Frame producer Keisuke Kikuchi. Further restructuring at Koei Tecmo in 2016 resulted in Team Tachyon, the developers behind Quantum Theory as well as Rygar: The Battle of Argus being shut down. A large amount of developers were moved to Team Ninja. In 2017, Team Ninja released their new action role-playing game Nioh to great critical response. Nioh originally started development in 2004 at Koei, and was moved between multiple developers, such as Omega Force, before Koei approached Team Ninja after the merger in 2010 to help develop the game. When first presented with the project by Koei, Team Ninja staff were skeptic about the game's concept, citing the western protagonist in Sengoku-era Japan, as well as various mechanics. Despite these uncertainties, development was fully transferred to Team Ninja in 2012. The title would go on to receive multiple awards,   and became Team Ninja's best-selling title. They released Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: The Black Order for the Nintendo Switch in 2019 as well as Dead or Alive 6. Team Ninja released the prequel to Nioh, Nioh 2, in March 2020. A compilation of Ninja Gaiden series, dubbed Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection, released in June 2021. Team Ninja also developed Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin, which released in 2022.

As of 2022, Yosuke Hayashi had left Team Ninja to serve as the general manager of Koei Tecmo's entertainment division, with Fumihiko Yasuda replacing him as president. Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty was announced the same year, being produced by Team Ninja lead Fumihiko Yasuda, who led the development on Nioh and Nioh 2, as well as Masaaki Yamagiwa. Yamagiwa, who joined Team Ninja in 2021 after the closure of Sony's Japan Studio, was previously producer on Bloodborne. It released in 2023.

Split with Tomonobu Itagaki
Tomonobu Itagaki was promoted to Tecmo Executive Officer in June 2004, as well as to General Manager in 2006, alongside his position as the head of Team Ninja. In 2007 due to a lawsuit regarding alleged sexual harassment, his manager roles would be revoked. Although he was later judged innocent by a Tokyo district court, the lawsuit permanently strained the relationship between Itagaki and Tecmo. On June 3, 2008, Itagaki announced that he would be leaving Tecmo and Team Ninja on July 1, 2008, citing difficulties with the company. In the same statement announcing his resignation, he also announced that he was filing a lawsuit against Tecmo president, Yoshimi Yasuda, over unpaid bonuses for his work on Dead or Alive 4 for the Xbox 360. It was later reported that he was fired from Tecmo on June 18, 2008, in retaliation for his lawsuit. Another lawsuit followed shortly after which was filed on 16 June by two plaintiffs on behalf of Tecmo's 300 employees for unpaid wages amounting to ¥8.3 million. Many of his colleagues at Team Ninja quit as well to join him at his new game development team, Valhalla Game Studios. Some ex-Team Ninja members also helped with Ubisoft's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Smash-Up. The two parties would settle in February 2010 for an undisclosed amount. After Itagaki's departure, Yosuke Hayashi would subsequently serve as the new lead at Team Ninja until his departure in 2022. Fumihiko Yasuda serves as the new president since.

Depiction of Women
Team Ninja's provocative style, originally coined by Itagaki, while often having been praised, with Dead or Alive 's Kasumi being regarded as a modern-day sex symbol, with MTV UK labeling her as one of the sexiest characters in video games, has been criticised for objectifying women. In a 2012 Interview with Kotaku, Yosuke Hayashi said that Team Ninja was "very misinterpreted" outside of Japan, and that there's no derogatory intention in their creation process. "We can't help if other cultures in other countries around the globe think that it's a bad representation", so Hayashi. In 2016, Team Ninja garnered public attention after their decision to not release Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 in North America or Europe, reigniting a controversy within the video game industry about the sexualised portrayal of female characters within their games. Shuhei Yoshida, president of Sony Interactive Entertainment at the time, said in a statement in regard to Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 that Europe and North America have their cultural differences about how to depict women in video games and other media.

Excessive Violence in Ninja Gaiden II
In 2008, the German Rating Board USK refused classification for Ninja Gaiden II, banning the game for sale in Germany, due to the title's excessive violence. The game's publisher, Microsoft, had no interest in releasing a compromised, cut version of the game. This would later affect the development of the PlayStation 3 version, dubbed Sigma 2, as the game's violence was significantly toned down. Sigma 2 received classification in Germany.

Dead or Alive: Dimensions ban in Sweden and Australia
In 2011, Dead or Alive: Dimensions was banned in Sweden, due to the rating board determining that the characters appeared too young. Due to Sweden's ban on the title, Australian politician Brendan O'Connor urged the Australian Classification Board to reexamine the title, resulting in the game getting its classification revoked and being removed from sale. Nintendo, the publisher of the game in Europe, Australia and New Zealand, stated that Dead or Alive Dimensions contained no objectionable content and resubmitted the game. The classification was reinstated shortly thereafter.

EVO Japan 2019 shutdown
In 2019, Team Ninja gained controversy, due to a livestream of Dead or Alive 6 at Evo Japan 2019 featuring gravure idols. The livestream was forcibly shut-down by the Evolution Championship Series. The co-founder and CEO of EVO, Joey Cuellar, issued an apology saying that "the stream does not reflect the core values of EVO" and that they had to end to stream to "protect the integrity" of EVO. Mark Julio, head of global business at EVO, later appeared live during the tournament to issue an apology, saying that the content showcased by a partner of EVO wouldn't "reflect the content and intention" of the Esports organiser. Evo 2020 would be cancelled and Cuellar removed as CEO, due to a history of sexual abuse towards minors coming to light.

Rise of the Rōnin not releasing in South Korea
According to reports, Rise of the Rōnin would not release in South Korea, due to Fumihiko Yasuda comparing Shoin Yoshida, a controversial figure in South Korea, to Socrates. However, Sony has denied those claims.

Cancelled games

 * Dead or Alive: Code Chronos - A prequel to the Dead or Alive series, which was going to focus on the backstory of Kasumi and Ayane, and reportedly was not going to be a fighting game. It was cancelled in November 2010.
 * Project Progressive - A project that was originally planned for the Xbox, but its development moved to the Xbox 360. It was cancelled in November 2010.
 * Ninja Gaiden 3DS - A Nintendo 3DS project announced by Team Ninja in 2011. It was quietly cancelled at a later date.

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Henry S. Lane

Henry Smith Lane (February 24, 1811 – June 19, 1881) was a United States representative, Senator, and the 13th Governor of Indiana; he was by design the shortest-serving governor of Indiana, having made plans to resign the office should his party take control of the Indiana General Assembly and elect him to the United States Senate. He held that office for only two days, and was known for his opposition to slavery. A Whig until the party collapsed, he supported compromise with the South. He became an early leader in the Republican Party starting in 1856 serving as the president of the first party convention, delivering its keynote address, and was influential in the nomination of Abraham Lincoln. With the repeal of the Missouri Compromise, he became a full-fledged abolitionist, and in the Senate he was a pro-Union advocate and a strong supporter of the war effort to defeat the Southern Confederacy.

Family and background
Henry Smith Lane was born in Bath County, Kentucky near Sharpsburg on February 24, 1811, the son of James H. and Mary Higgins Lane. He received a classical education from private tutors and studied law; he was admitted to the bar in Mount Sterling, Kentucky in 1832. He moved to Crawfordsville, Indiana, in 1835 working at the Bank of Indiana and opening a law office, taking mainly criminal cases.

Lane was an opponent of slavery early in life, and came to support Henry Clay while he lived in Kentucky. At age 20, he delivered an anti-slavery speech to the Colonization Society in October 1831. In the speech he declared, "The History of all times admonishes us that no man or community of men can be kept forever in slavery." While Lane opposed to expansion of slavery he was not in favor of abolition, but like Henry Clay he believed that over time slavery would die out if it was prevented from spreading. In 1833 he married Pamela Bledsoe Jameson. The couple had no children, and his wife was killed in a stage coach accident 1842; Lane escaped the accident with only minor injuries.

Active in Whig politics, he was a member of the Indiana Senate in 1837 as a representative of Montgomery County and a member of the Indiana House of Representatives in 1838–39. Lane was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1840 to fill the vacancy caused by the resignation of Tilghman A. Howard, he won reelection defeating John Bryce by overwhelming majority the next year, and served until 1843. He did not seek reelection to a second full term. While in office, he was in favor of compromising with the south over the slavery issue and openly condemned the abolitionists agitators as promoting disunity.

Mexican–American War
During the 1844 elections, Lane stumped most of Indiana for presidential candidate Henry Clay. He married Joanna Maria Elston, a daughter of Isaac Compton Elston, a major investor in the Bank of Indiana in 1845. Lane returned to his law practice after the election and remained there until the outbreak of the Mexican–American War. In May 1846, Lane attended the war meeting held in Indianapolis, and became and active member, writing part of the resolutions the meeting issued, pledging troops for the invasion of Mexico.

After the meeting, Lane set out to personally raise a company of men to join the war effort, and he served during the war at its head, and rose to the rank of lieutenant colonel of the First Regiment Indiana Infantry. His regiment spent most of the war in Mexico, guarding supply lines and military posts, and saw little action. When his companies' enlistment expired, Lane returned to Indiana by ship, landing in Madison, Indiana. He there confronted many members of the Whig party who were opposed to the war and publicly decried their lack of support for the cause. Lane then set out to organize a new company and set out again for Mexico as part of the Fifth Indiana Regiment Infantry, and remained in Mexico for the duration of the war.

Shifting parties
After returning from the war, Lane was a candidate for Congress in 1849, challenging Joseph E. McDonald. The election was a close contest, but Lane was ultimately defeated and returned to private life. He abandoned the profession of law and engaged in the banking business at Crawfordsville in 1854. The same year the Know Nothing Party was established and Lane joined, along with many other disaffected Whigs. In the legislature he was a strong supporter of sending a Know-Nothing candidate to the United States Senate. The debate began the start of a period of divisive state politics that would continue until the American Civil War. The Democrats refused to allow the new party any national representation, and Ashbel Willard, who was President of the State Senate, was able to lock up voting and prevent any Senator from being elected. The situation exploded and the Know-Nothings responded by locking up the entire General Assembly.

The results were disastrous and the Know-Nothing party quickly fell apart, but the battle brought Lane national fame in standing up to the Democrats. In 1856 Lane attended the first Republican National Convention. He was elected president of the convention and gained national recognition for his oratory. After the convention he returned to Indiana and stumped the state for the new party. That year Republicans gained a strong representation in the General Assembly and, with the support of some Democrats, were able to elect Lane and William McCarty to the United States Senate. The two men went to Washington to challenge the state's sitting senators, but the Senate refused to accept the new senators.

In 1857, the Missouri Compromise was repealed. The act had a profound effect on Lane's position on slavery. While before he had supported compromise on the issue, the law's repeal led him to become a full-fledged abolitionist and favor anti-slavery action on the national level.

Gubernatorial campaign
Lane returned to Indiana where he continued to spread the ideas of the new party. In 1860, the state Republican convention chose Lane to run for governor, and Oliver Morton as lieutenant governor. They challenged Thomas Hendricks on the Democratic ticket. Prior to the election it was negotiated that Lane would be elected to the Senate and Morton would continue as governor. The men canvased the entire state.

After a major speech in Evansville, Lane attended the second Republican National Convention, and was influential in helping Abraham Lincoln win the presidential nomination. Lane and Lincoln had a friendly relationship and Lincoln once said of Lane, "Here comes an uglier man than I am".

Returning to Indiana after the convention, he held a final debate with Hendricks in Fort Wayne. Lane was not as skilled a debater as Hendricks, but was considered a superior orator. Lane refused to have any more debates with his opponent, and instead traveled across the state again giving speeches. The election was close and Lane defeated Hendricks by about 1,000 votes and was elected governor; he was inaugurated January 14, 1861. However, he served just two days, and resigned to accept a seat in the U.S. Senate to honor the agreement with running mate Morton, who then became governor.

Senator
Lane was again elected by the Republican-controlled Indiana Legislature, but again the Democratic-dominated U.S. Senate refused to seat him. As southern states began to secede from the Union, however, the Southern majority quickly gave way and Lane was permitted to be seated. He served from March 4, 1861, to March 3, 1867, and was a supporter of President Lincoln's policies during the Civil War. While in the Senate he was chairman of the Committee on Engrossed Bills (Thirty-seventh through Thirty-ninth Congresses) and a member of the Committee on Pensions (Thirty-ninth Congress).

Return to private life

After his Senate term ended, Lane returned to Crawfordsville, never again to hold elected office. He served as special Indian commissioner from 1869 to 1871, and was commissioner for improvement of the Mississippi River, appointed by President Ulysses S. Grant.

On June 18, 1881, Lane entertained some friends at his home in Crawfordsville for the evenings. After the party he began to have severe chest pains, and he died the next afternoon, June 19 around 1 pm, of an apparent heart-attack. His death was reported nationally, and biers were held nationwide. Lane was buried on June 21, his pallbearers being former governors of the state, and fellow senators. He was buried in a vault in Oak Hill Cemetery, and that state erected a monument over his grave.

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 22:33, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

The Fast and the Furious (2001 film) → The Fast and the Furious – The franchise is both officially and commonly named Fast & Furious. The extended form, The Fast and the Furious, almost exclusively refers to the original film, so WP:SMALLDETAILS applies. There was a time where the franchise was also named The Fast and the Furious (see the third film), but this has not been the case since 2009 (see the fourth film). Per WP:ONEOTHER, a hatnote on the film article pointing to the franchise will suffice. A similar situation exists with The Evil Dead (the original film) vs. Evil Dead (the franchise). InfiniteNexus (talk) 08:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting.  Arbitrarily0   ( talk ) 13:22, 18 December 2023 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Oppose It just causes confusion without helping readers. Even I believed the franchise was called "The Fast and the Furious", as I had only seen the initial films. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:37, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Is a hatnote not sufficient in addressing that confusion, per WP:ONEOTHER? This feels like a case of WP:NWFCTM. InfiniteNexus (talk) 19:02, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd call this an exception given the series used to be called by that name. It's still a potential primary redirect topic. If the series was never known by that name, it would be something else entirely. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:45, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per InfiniteNexus, although ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ does have some valid points. 77.92.145.214 (talk) 03:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per InfiniteNexus. Trekelo (talk) 19:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose per ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ's comments above. ╠╣uw [ talk ] 16:17, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment It would be more helpful if !voters provided their own rationale rather than simply writing "per XXX" over and over again. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Repeating the same things that others have already said well seems unnecessary, but I'm happy to if it helps. I for one have the same take as ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ above: the proposed move would be confusing and would not help our readers. Also like ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ, I thought the series as a whole was called The Fast and the Furious — and apparently it actually was called that — so keeping the clarifier for the 2001 film of the same name seems best. ╠╣uw [ talk ] 18:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Perfectly acceptable and quite normal. Just means you agree with what that person said. No need to rehash an argument you agree with in slightly different words. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:15, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Support I do not know anyone who calls the franchise The Fast and the Furious, just Fast & Furious. Like the disambiguation to The Fast and the Furious (franchise) redirecting to Fast & Furious should be noted, but the primary topic of The Fast and the Furious should be this film. MvA BoB (talk) 21:05, 27 December 2023 (UTC)


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RJFJR
Closed (26/0/1) ended 14:09 11 October 2005 (UTC)

– RJFJR has been here on Wikipedia since the end of November 2004. He's someone who works diligently behind the scenes to make Wikipedia a better place. His entire edit history is filled with a tremendous amount of participation in a number of important cleanup tasks. He's also dedicated to making new users feel welcome here, and will even complete the AfD posting steps that we may sometimes occasionally forget. RJFJR is motivated, friendly, and above all - trustworthy. I think this user would make a fine administrator, and I hope the community thinks so too. --HappyCamper 00:54, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I am honored to accept (we may all know that admin is no big deal, but it's still great to be asked!) RJFJR 05:13, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Support
 * 1) Support - of course! --HappyCamper 14:32, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support, will make a good admin. --Angr/undefined 14:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support, I haven't had personal experience with this user, but based on the above, he's a good candidate. — J I P  | Talk 16:21, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Fir  e  Fo  x  16:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Support, on the condition he tells me what "RJFJR" stands for. I like his answers to the questions, and looking through some of his recent contributions was greatly heartening.  Also, I have a theory that "Wikignomes" make the best admins ... --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 16:40, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Support, I've been impressed when I've seen him in Recent Changes. — Lomn | Talk / RfC 17:19, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Support Good RC Patroler --JAranda'' | yeah 17:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) Support CambridgeBayWeather 19:58, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 9) We definitely need more RC patrolers; we are being overwhelemed. El_C 20:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 10) Support. -Greg Asche (talk) 20:53, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 11)  →Jo urna list   >>talk<<  22:10, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 12) Soup ort Private Butcher 23:51, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 13) Support. Friday (talk) 00:56, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 14) Support Ryan Norton T 00:57, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 15) OMG wikignome! Support. Bishonen | talk 07:57, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 16) Cool. --JuntungWu 11:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 17) Support Good janitor--Rogerd 02:29, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 18) Quasi-humungous cranky ol' Kiwi bastard support Grutness...  wha?  06:38, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 19) Support enceph  alon  10:22, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 20) Merovingian (t) (c) 10:46, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 21) Support Astrotrain 19:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 22) Support I cannot overemphasise the need for friendly users and administrators. Gryffindor [[Image:Flag of Austria (state).svg|20px]] 22:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 23) Support. Carbonite | Talk 12:56, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 24) Support. Lots of good work on Deadend pages. - SimonP 16:25, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 25) Support Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 26) Support. Oops, almost missed this one. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 18:59, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 27) Support. Hope I got here in time. --hydnjo talk 03:06, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral
 * 1) Neutral. Have not seen this user before.  PedanticallySpeaking 17:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * So why are you even voting? freestylefrappe 21:07, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

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 * What RJFJR stands for: RJF is my initials, the JR at the end is for Junior, which I am. When you put them all together it is a palindrome, which I just think is cool. RJFJR 17:10, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
 * 1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.)
 * A. If there is something that needs doing, let me know, I'll do it. If I see something that needs doing, I'll do it.  Otherwise, I'll be working on articles that need cleanup.  I'm sure there are some backlogs I can contribute to eliminating.
 * 2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
 * A. I haven't created many new articles (with 750,000 articles most things already exist) so my contributions are scattered around. I've been mainly working on stub-sorting, deadend pages and articles needing cleanup, but I've been adding some material as I work on them.  There are a few things that I remember liking the way they came out...but when I went back I could usually see room for improvement.
 * 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
 * A. I've generally managed to avoid conflicts.  My reaction to reading stressful material is to get up and walk away from my computer for a while, that helps me avoid typing things in haste that I'll later regret.  It also helps me avoid typing with excessive sarcasm.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page.

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Talk:Taikyoku shogi

the divine sparrow's movement is mirrored with that of the divine turtle, thus Ï propose we change rhis ambiguity. this is also due to the fact that the divine turtle itself has ñœ ambiguity, & that is why we should only believe the first diagram. -evanangelo

The Pieces and their Movements
I'd like to piont out that all of the piece movements have been verified using a Japanese source, a playable Java game, before the article was posted. The Japanese wiki had not been used as a sourse at that time nor have any English sources been used for the verification of piece movements. I'm stuck in Alaska for a few weeks on buisness but I will look into it as soon as I can. --JTTyler, 3 Oct 2005.

 * Thanks, JT. I'm verifying Tai shogi with Japanese wiki and have started posting inconsistancies on the Japanese pages. Once that's done, it should be easy to extend to maka, and then all articles will be in sync with the Japanese pages except taikyoku and ko shogi. I would much appreciate it if you took over confirming taikyoku! (And of course if you could resolve any of the outstanding issues on the other pages.) kwami 03:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm back! I've started on this page but I may not post the changes untill I'm about done.  All of the non-promoted pieces have been verafied with jp wiki with allmost no change.  The pronounciation guides are also a big help. --JTTyler 5 Nov 2005

 * Good. That helps. I adjusted about a quarter of the names. I'm afraid one or two may have slipped by, but this should be good for now. kwami 08:52, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

I noticed that the stone chariot and soldier swap places on the board in the Japanese wiki. This seems to make more sence so I may make this change. I've also noticed the earth dragon's moves are reversed. My previous sorce may have been mistaken. Their are 300 types of pieces when you include promotions, however many pieces coppy the movements of others', hence 253 different moves. JTTyler 6 Nov 05.

 * (Note to readers: the stone chariot and soldier have been reversed, and both variants are now listed for the earth dragon.) kwami

It would be nice if we could transfer the diagrams for the piece movements from the Japanese wiki. TensaiKashou 21:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

 * You can! They're written in html, which works perfectly well here. Just cut 'n paste. 300 pieces are a bit much, but if each of us took 30, it would eventually get done. kwami (talk) 22:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

new draft
Hi JT,

Comments on the new draft:

You have the jumping order for the flying pieces as
 * King, crown prince
 * Great general
 * Vice general
 * Rook general, bishop general
 * Violent dragon, flying crocodile
 * All other pieces

However, Japanese wiki fuses 4 & 5 for
 * King, crown prince
 * Great general
 * Vice general
 * Rook general, bishop general, Violent dragon, flying crocodile
 * All other pieces

Under 'area movers' you say that the lion and lion hawk can only capture once per turn.

What you list as 'limited range multiple capture/partial lion power' pieces are just jumpers according to Japanses wikipedia. The golden bird, fire bird, and great elephant jump the first 0 to 3 squares (without capture), and then continue as ranging pieces in the directions you list for multiple capture. However, the ancient dragon has a ranging jump (flies) in the foreward & backward orthogonals, without capturing anything it jumps. (Like the generals in tenjiku.)

kwami 19:37, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Because I still have some difficulty reading Japanese, I based many of the rules on material I could find, including the Java game. Some are errors I still need to address.  Primarily, v2.0 fixes most of the formatting issues; I even discovered that I had left a couple piece movements out of the original article.  Further proofing and normalization of promoted pieces still need to be done so expect a v2.1.  Thanks a lot for your input, it is helpful as always. JTTyler 22:20, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, Japanese wiki isn't necessarily correct either. I've just proofed the first rank, and am making adjustments. Actually, for the golden bird etc. it doesn't say they can jump up to the third square, it says that they can jump up to three pieces, which could be very different, depending on how literally we take it. (Is it a ranging jump, potentially crossing the board? Do the pieces have to be adjacent? If there is no adjacent piece, can it still jump one on the second square? Etc.) I translated it literally, leaving it ambiguous, so this is one we might want to confirm. (Of course, any source we get might be more precise than the original documents warrent.) kwami 21:54, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree, though it reminds me of the cannon from Xiangqi. JTTyler 10:56, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, that would make it an interesting piece.
 * Actually, I think you're right. If it could jump to the second to fourth square, it would probably show that specifically on the diagram. The fact that the jump is indicated with a numeral 3 suggests that it is something that cannot be readily shown in a simple diagram.

 * Proofed the second rank. One possible correction, for the wooden dove, involves an error in Japanese wikipedia. I've changed our account to the Japanese verbal description, as that makes more sense given the promotions. I only noticed this because I read the Japanese for complex moves, but rely on the diagrams for basic ones, so there may be other discrepancies like this that I haven't caught. kwami 00:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Third rank: Phoenix & kirin masters cannot move on after jumping according to Japanese wiki. It only says,
 * また、斜め前 (or 前と後ろ) には3マス目まで飛び越えて行ける.
 * Also changed bishop & rook generals and croc to range capturing pieces, and added proviso that no such pieces can jump a royal. Substantially changed the croc and rain demon. Might be a good idea to verify with your sources and and variant movements if necessary.

 * Fourth rank: odd change in the silver chariot. there are seldom disagreements in simple pieces like this.

 * Fifth rank: the teacher king has no lion power in taikyoku. It instead has a 3-piece jump. The mountain stork agrees with the diagram, but not with the japanese text, which doens't mention moves to the side: 前後と斜め前に何マスでも動け (forward-backward and diagonally forward...)

 * Sixth: added a couple warnings. It doesn't make sense to me that the tengu and capricorn should have the same move, but that's what japanese wiki says. Also, the kirin is limited compared to Chu, but the phoenix is not. Just noticed by chance that one of the promotions was wrong: the flying goose promotes to sparrow's wings, not dragon king. Haven't checked any of the other pieces, though, so this needs to be done.
 * Can you double check poisonous snake? No jump move per japanese wiki. I'm just changing it on the assumption that what you had was the move of a smaller board version.

 * The royal proviso was in the text above the individual pieces, it was accidentally deleted.

Note (may not have time to confirm): The (3) in J-wiki probly means it can jump up to the first three squares, not up to three pieces at any distance. kwami (talk) 19:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

 * If it was "the third square", it would look like this.

OosakaNoOusama (talk) 20:50, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Reference
As stated in the second paragraph “Several documents describing the game have been found; however, there are differences between them.” This may be the cause for some of our headaches. I liked the Java game because the piece movements where easer to define, however, it may not be as reliable a source as I thought, or it may be based on a different document than the jp.wiki. I have noticed some of the piece movements are reversed or different all together. Promotions may be affected also. The game is never updated so some of the info may be old.

A set of scans from Sekai no Shogi by Isao Umebayashi, a Japanese book about shogi variants, published in 1997 by Shogi Tengokusha, is archived at the Shogi Variants Group at onelist.com. The scans include diagrams and some explanations of the moves of the various pieces, as well as the initial setup. To view these, it is necessary to register with onelist. Of course, this information is never updated and may be based on only one document.

I got an expert, Colin Adams, to help with tenjiku shogi. The expert to ask for taikyoku is George Hodges. He posts to the Yahoo shogi club but I don’t know his E-mail address. I’m not a member of onlist or the Yahoo club but it might be worth taking a look.

Update: I have an address; george.hodges@talk21.com but I don’t know if it is current. Same with the address; George F. Hodges P.O. Box 77 Bromley, Kent BR1 2WT England Tel. (44) 81 - 468 7050, Fax (44) 81 - 295 1550.

It might be nice to get a copy of his booklet: George F. Hodges, Rules for historic Shogi variants. It can be ordered from the address above, though I can’t be sure if taikyoku is in it. JTTyler 14:21, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the reference! I'm fairly certain that taikyoku is not in Hadges pub, as that's fairly old. kwami 19:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Do you mean in Yahoo! groups? Houston-chess is the only one I see. kwami 21:25, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Divide and concur
It has come to my attention that User:-Ril- (one of the more prolific editers of article space) or one of his bots, belives that this article is too long on the basis of the limitations of obsolete web browsers (IE 6.0 and Firefox not among them). Therefore, when I get to it, I may divide this article accordingly. One of the visual tables will be greatly expanded and two of the textual tables will be integrated, creating at least one new article. It will be some time before this happens, unless someone else wants to assume this daunting task, so opinions may be left here to conciliate the suitability of doing this. JTTyler 02:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

 * User:JTTyler is indifferent –
 * User:Kwamikagami seams to like it as is –
 * User:-Ril- or one of his bots, votes to devide the article -
 * TheLateDentarthurdent suggests we divide the article by pieces or category of pieces since most of the information is regarding the movement of the ungodly number of pieces required to play. Category suggestions include Jumping, Diagonal, Orthogonal, Mixed Diagonal and Orthogonal, Mixed Jumping Diagonal and Orthogonal, etc.  Or categorize them by row, which leaves only eleven sub-articles or so.

Keep it as it is. Splitting it into subarticles will make it more confusing, not less.

 * Since the template was added so long ago, and since noone ever split this article, I have removed the template. Did I mention that the editor who put the template in has since been banned? Samboy 19:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

 * NotAUser:Virgil wonders why we would even worry about the article being uncomfortably long and difficult to navigate when that more or less describes the nature of the game the article is about anyway. I vote we take the cautionary header off- anyone who is reading the article on Taikyoku knows full well what they're getting into. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.223.82.46 (talk) 06:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Capitalisation and Japanese
I think the names of the pieces should be capitalised, Looks a little more 'right', don't you think? Furthermore, I think the Japanese names should be added next to the English names (perhaps with furigana) for more comfort. I would certainly find it more comfortable for a learner (all the pieces have Japanese names on them). Siúnrá (talk) 17:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
 * We don't capitalize the pieces of ortho-chess.
 * You mean adding the Japanese to the English in the piece description section? I've done that with other articles, but this one is so long ! — kwami (talk) 17:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

The piece movements
You should use diagram description.--119.108.116.221 (talk) 09:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Problems with a few pieces
The move description for the following one is inconsistent (what does it do orthogonally forwards) and I haven't any sources to repair it: Raiding falcon * Step: The raiding falcon can move one square orthogonally forward or sideways. * Range: It can move any number of free squares in a straight line orthogonally forward. Note that the corresponding piece in Wa shogi looks different from this piece in any possible interpretation and/or correction. 84.165.213.139 (talk) 19:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * L. Lynn Smith has a step diagonally forward. So I plug this one in. 134.96.51.209 (talk) 08:59, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

The next one looks inconsistent for another reason. Bird of paradise and multi general * Range: The bird of paradise and multi general move as a white horse. The standard white horse known from other large shogi variants is indeed a ranging only piece. However, Taikyoku shogi's white horse is different and has some limited range move, too. So to which white horse are these two pieces equal? 84.165.213.139 (talk) 19:11, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see a problem here, the moves given for the White Horse are ranging.134.96.51.209 (talk) 08:59, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

edit suggestion
Why not move the legend use for the layout into the table of names of pieces? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.193.68 (talk) 15:53, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect names?
I've noticed that some pieces are listed with the same Japanese name ... Great Turtle and the Great Standard as "daiki"? Earth General and Longbow General as "doshō"? (Doshō is given as the name for Earth General in Tai Shogi.) Roc and Phoenix Masters as "hōshi"? Lance and Strong Chariot as "kyōsha". (Kyōsha is given for Lance in other variants.) Blind Tiger and Savage Tiger as "mōko". (Looking at other variants I see that they are both listed as mōko there as well for some reason.) Blind Bear and Violent Bear as "mōyū". (Tai shogi has both of these and it's listed the same there as well.) Rain Demon and Woodland Demon as "rinki". Divine Turtle and Forest Demon as "shinki". Little Standard and Little Turtle as "shōki". Water General and Multi General both as "suishō". (In Tenjiku the Multi General is listed as suishō.)

Should there be some kind of vowel marks to differentiate them from each other, or did something get copied over incorrectly?
 * I imagine they all have the same answer as you erased for the first one: they're pronounced the same. Off hand, it looks like at least 7 out of 10 are. — kwami (talk)

I've also noticed the following inconsistencies ... Why is the 鳩槃 ("kyūhan") called a Wooden Dove, when in Tai and Dai Dai the same kanji and japanese name is used, but it's just called a Dove there? The Yasha in Dai Dai and Maka Dai Dai is listed as She-Devil and uses the same kanji and Japanese name. Shouldn't it be called She-Devil here as well? The Front Standard (前旗 "zenki") is listed in Tai and Dai Dai as Standard Bearer and uses the same kanji and Japanese name. TKR101010 (talk) 02:25, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * In those versions there was only one dove and one standard, so there was no need to dab; here there are several.
 * "She-devil" isn't a good translation. It was linked to yaksha as the most common English name, and I changed the text now to reflect that. — kwami (talk) 05:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Kind of straying from the original interpretation of the subject, but still in the interest in piece names ...
 * Yaksha is a common English name? I don't think many English speakers would know what a Yaksha is if you asked them.
 * It seems more logical to me to keep some kind of standardization between the different variants. (ie. If a piece uses the
 * same kanji and has the same move in more than one variant, then call it the same thing in both variants) On the flip side,
 * I also understand wanting to name things as close as possible to what the native words actually mean, like the choice of
 * "Free Dream-Eater" over "Free Tapir". But then I don't understand why we call a 変狸 an "Enchanted Badger" instead of a "Tanuki",
 * and a 天狗 a "Long Nosed Goblin" instead of a "Tengu". I think more English speakers would know what those two are than they
 * would a Yaksha. Another piece I've always felt was strangely named is calling a 獅鷹 a "Lion Hawk" instead of a "Griffin".TKR101010 (talk) 03:53, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Game play ...
"A move consists of moving a single piece on the board and potentially promoting that piece or displacing (capturing) an opposing piece." should probably be changed to "A move consists of moving a single piece on the board and potentially displacing (capturing) an opposing piece, promoting that piece if it is able to promote." The current wording implies that a piece can promote without capturing, which isn't possible in a promotion-by-capture game. The suggested way states that the moving piece (regardless of what it is) has the potential of capturing, and that if the piece is able to promote it will (since promotion-by capture is compulsory) but accepts that not all pieces will promote (since the moving piece may be of a sort that doesn't promote, or because it's already been promoted).TKR101010 (talk) 06:12, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Not a single source?
Neither the English, or the Japanese article (assuming some of the information is taken from it) list any sources, only few external links at the end. Shouldn't this be corrected? Theon144 (talk) 11:07, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

There is no more .swf link, either 93.184.91.24 (talk) 22:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

 * It has been moved to http://taikyokushogi.pv.land.to/taikyoku.html and http://taikyokushogi.pv.land.to/taikyoku.swf. OosakaNoOusama (talk) 20:55, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Range-capturing pieces
Hi, I have two questions about the range-capturing pieces (great general, vice general, etc.).
 * They are said to capture all the pieces they jump over, does it really include the friendly ones (as the phrase implies)?
 * Can they capture by displacement like the other pieces?

UseresuUK (talk) 19:52, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

 * No and no (I think). Double sharp (talk) 06:49, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
 * The correct answers are yes and yes. OosakaNoOusama (talk) 04:59, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Source please? Would be really interested. I'm planning to add Betza notation to this article at some point and this will change it slightly (and I need to make up a new symbol for friendly fire, also known as the ability to capture friendly pieces). Double sharp (talk) 13:45, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It is probably no more reliable than our own convictions, but on this page they seem to have answered by ‘yes’ and ‘no’ (that is, range-capturing pieces capture also the friendly pieces they jump over, but they cannot capture by displacement) – just try to move, for instance, the great general. Well, in fact it is slightly more complicated: the great general (as well as the other range-capturing pieces) does have the ability to capture by displacement, but only when the move does not involve a range capture. UseresuUK (talk) 07:07, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, since taikyoku is super inconsistent with everything below, I'll exercise my right to personally reject every rule I don't like when I try playing it! :-P Double sharp (talk) 09:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * (P.S. In tenjiku, where these pieces probably first appeared, the answers would be no – only the hapless piece they land on is captured – and yes.) Double sharp (talk) 15:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Number of piece types
The "Game Equipment" section indicates 209 types. However, the table given in the "Setup" section gives only 208 types. I count myself and I find only 208. Is there an explanation? Thanks Cazaux (talk) 21:33, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * There are indeed 209 types:
 * the table in section Game equipment has 299 lines, 92 of which correspond to pieces that only appear when another one is promoted; that makes only 207 types of piece, but as the two howling dogs and the two mountain eagles are on the same line, we should add 2 types;
 * the legend in section Setup shows 41 lines of 5 items, plus 3 in the last one; that makes 208 types, again plus 2 (howling dog, mountain eagle), that is, 210; then you can notice there is a ‘wind soldier’ in the penultimate line, which does not appear anywhere else in the page (I guess it is a mistake).
 * UseresuUK (talk) 09:51, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I understand for the Game Equipment section, but I don't for the Setup section. Because I can't see any "wind soldier". I see a "wind general" on the penultimate line but that piece is well present. So, do we have 209 or 210 pieces?Cazaux (talk) 18:22, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I was confused because the Setup table has also been reduced to 207 entries (probably removing the wrong "wind soldier"). 207+2=209, everything is OK now. Thanks for the explanation. Cazaux (talk) 18:26, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

The move of the free eagle (奔鷲)
As currently written, the move of the free eagle is as follows:
 * Jump/ranging: The free eagle can jump to the second or third square, and then move any number of free squares in a straight line in the four orthogonal directions or diagonally backward.
 * Jump/ranging: It can jump to the second to fourth square, and then move any number of free squares in a straight line diagonally forward.
 * It need not jump before moving nor move after jumping.

However, I took a look at the Japanese article and it does not seem so simple. As far as I understood it (with Google translate), the free eagle can either move as a free king or use a kind of 3-step single-direction lion move in any direction (4-step if diagonally forward). But I’m totally not sure about the details such as igui… Have someone got a clue?

UseresuUK (talk) 19:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

 * Having tested the .swf, it seems that the free eagle cannot jump and then range as a free king: either it moves as a free king or it moves as a directional lion with 3 or 4 moves. For the latter, it can igui or pass a turn by moving to an adjacent cell and go back; it can also jump to any of the ‘lion’ cells in a given direction and then continue in the same direction (away from the original cell, potentially capturing each time; once no longer adjacent to the departure it cannot go back, even in the case it has 4 moves (for example, cannot igui by a 2-step jump); that might be a mistake) up to the 3rd cell (or 4th if diagonally forward), jumping over anything; however, I suspect a mistake: the .swf does not allow, for instance, to capture an enemy and then jump over a friendly piece, while it allows to jump over any friendly piece (sufficiently close) first and then capture several enemies – the problem may be that after the first jump or step, the .swf only allows steps.
 * UseresuUK (talk) 19:56, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

 * English-language software is frequently wrong even in the stated rules, let alone in the coding. I wouldn't put much credence in it. — kwami (talk) 12:30, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

 * WP-ja says [note: I'm not bothering to say each time it doesn't have to capture to move]:
 * It can move any distance in any direction without jumping (= King)
 * In any direction but diag. forward, it can step-capture up to three times, and can jump. That is, it can (1) move one square, (2) move one square then move one beyond that (capture--capture), (3) igui an adjacent square, (4) jump to the second square, (5) move three squares, (potentially) capturing on each one (capture--capture--capture), (6) jump and step, (7) step and jump, (8) jump to the third square, (9) step and igui (ending up on the 1st square).
 * Diagonally forward, it can do the same up to four times. That is, besides the above, it can (1) move four squares, capturing on each, (2) jump the first square then capture on the next three, (3) capture on the first, jump the second, the capture on the next two (capture--jump--capture--capture), (4) capture--capture--jump--capture, (5) jump--jump--capture--capture, (6) jump--capture--jump--capture, (7) capture--jump--jump--capture, (8) capture--capture--igui, (9) jump--igui (ending up on the 2nd square), (10) double igui (that is, move out 2 squares then move back to zero), (11) jumping igui (snatch piece off the 2nd square w/o moving).
 * That is, it can take 3 or 4 steps, capturing or ignoring any pieces on the way. This is no different from the pieces in Chu apart from the range being longer:  it's a 3- or 4-step linear lion move.
 * I don't know where our version came from, but WP-ja has been stable since it was created in 2004.  — kwami (talk) 12:58, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

 * I fully agree, but wrong as though the .swf be, I was citing it just because it looked more like the description in the Japanese article than like the English one. Thank you very much for the translation (I was writing an answer when I saw it)! It seems the software was wrong indeed.
 * UseresuUK (talk) 13:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

 * I verified all the big games apart from this one at WP-ja, and there were lots of discrepancies like this. Where it looked like the error was on the japanese side (such as their verbal description not matching their diagram), I left them a note, though I think i only got an answer once.  I suspect that several more pieces will be wrong.    — kwami (talk) 13:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * That's assuming WP-ja is correct, but they're not a RS. — kwami (talk) 04:51, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Mountain dove or turtle dove?
Wondering about the English name of 山鳩	. In this article it is listed as "Mountain dove" (MD), and this is the literal meaning of the two kanji. Japanese Wiktionary, however, appears to list 山鳩 as a common name for the turtle dove. See:. I don't speak Japanese though, so I'm not sure if this translation holds for the shogi piece. (See also: ja:山鳩). Can someone who speaks Japanese weigh in? —Pengo 01:07, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't speak Japanese (*yet!*), but I'm going to weigh in anyway... The shogi piece would be sufficiently obscure that I don't really know if it has a standard English name, as it would be so little-mentioned. So I would just use "turtle dove", following the usual meaning of 山鳩, and which would generate a distinct mental image of the piece. (In a sense what you call a piece is secondary to its movement powers, but the name probably provides some sort of insight as to what the players or game designers were thinking.) The mountain dove doesn't appear in any smaller historical shogi variant, so unfortunately we cannot use that as a guide to naming. Double sharp (talk) 15:43, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Seconded. — kwami (talk) 19:33, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

 * The ja interwiki gives yamabato 山鳩 as an alternate name for kijibato 雉鳩 "Oriental turtle dove, Streptopelia orientalis". Keahapana (talk) 21:41, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
 * (Well, the shogi piece uses the Sino-Japanese reading sankyū...) Double sharp (talk) 09:24, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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George Hodges' Ten Shogi Variants
Available online, with some interesting comments on taikyoku (p.130ff). Double sharp (talk) 15:04, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Recent changes by Fonsecafrancesco04 and 79.30.127.92
Can we please have sources for these changes? Some of them (e.g. promotion of the king) directly contradict Isao Umebayashi's published account. Double sharp (talk) 14:13, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I do an error of translation. I do the same error on the Japanese Wikipedia and I undid it. Fonsecafrancesco04 (talk) 18:40, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Recent Moves, Taikyoku shogi to Taikyoku shōgi
Hello. So this was originally posted at help desk and here. Finally moved it here, as its related to this page. After reading and others, the best course of action may be to move back the title of this page to Taikyoku shōgi without the macron (Taikyoku shogi).

Pinging users who maybe interested: OkayKenji (talk page) 04:02, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for telling me.--Thylacine24 (talk) 04:27, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note As of right now, I've made a request at WP:RM/TR, to turn the page back to Taikyoku shogi on the reason it was not discussed. Most likely after that we can determine consensus. OkayKenji (talk page) 04:46, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

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so the dovine sparrow has ambiguity right there is ñœ piece that has assymetric movement & ñœ mirrored counterpart Ï believe that the dovine sparrow is the mirror of the dovine turtle, who doesn't have any ambiguity. thus, Ï believe that we shuld belive the first doagrma & not the seconf Evan Tsipas (talk) 04:32, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

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