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User talk:Big Adamsky

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WikiProject:Ocean ...?
As well, I previously indicated my desire to devise a wikiproject (if one doesn't already exist) to standardise information regarding oceans/seas/bodies of water; thanks for your interest. What should it be called ... and bear in mind that it should, perhaps, be entitled something that is inclusive (e.g., lakes):

 * Oceanography
 * Oceans and seas
 * Bodies of water
 * Hydrography
 * Hydrology

I know, pretty 'dry' stuff, eh? ;) Get back to me when able.  Thanks again! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 15:54, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I'd love to join. — Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 18:32, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the very late reply
Hey BA, sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Saw your post from a month ago (!) and just wanted to get back to you. I'll check out the articles to see if there are still any problems, although by now I imagine a lot has changed as is usually the case with wikipedia. Later! Tombseye 21:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Community Justice!
Thank you for joining Community Justice! Computerjoe 's talk 17:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Swedish administrative reorganization
Well, they are only investigating so far. There has been a debate about the investation in Dagens Nyheter, where you can find some more info. Check the articles by Anders Björk and Mats Svegfors. --Boivie 15:42, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Country subdivisions
need your help, kind of urgent, someone wants to split the cats and articles of "subdivisons of XY" to "Administatrive divisions of some countries" and "Political divisions of some other countries".

could you maybe vote on Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_April_4 (take care, there are actually three votes)

IMO the thing should be taken with more care and discussed on the project page

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Subnational_entities/Naming

first. It is really is mass rename, since it not only involves the cats and subcates but also lots of articles. As Lorenz pointed out the most important seems to be that we find clear definitions of what the terms mean. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 08:02, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

User:William Allen Simpson mass posted all categories that contained the term "subdivision" at the CfD page. I just did not want that they get deleted only because some people for some minutes think this is good. Some people don't like the term "subdivision", but it has been long time around in WP. E.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Subdivisions_of_Finland&action=history. It's officially used in ISO 3166-2. (I think they are based in Berlin) - so maybe this really is not of North American english origin. (one of several places where William thinks my english is not sufficient: Talk:Administrative division). I could at least convince some people to postpone the rename for now. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 14:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Talk:Administrative division has a voting Tobias Conradi (Talk) 11:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Subnational_entities another Tobias Conradi (Talk) 12:08, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

New Caledonia communes
I finished all the communes of New Caledonia the other day, but haven't found time to send you a message until today. The point of my message is this: it would be great to add to each infobox a map showing the location of the commune in New Caledonia. As an example of what I mean, you can check: Trondheim. I don't have the proper softwares to edit maps at the moment, but if you do maybe you'd be interested in making the maps. The master map you should use is this one:. I think you should draw thicker lines for commune boundaries that are also province boundaries and thiner lines for commune boundaries that are not province boundaries. Also, remember that the commune of Poya is divided between two provinces. This will be no problem: there will be a thick line across that commune, but the commune territory will be in red, so no confusion possible. Alright, so let me know if you're interested and think it feasible. The master map is not best quality, but I don't think it's possible to find anything better. Hardouin 18:14, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

For colors, I think it best to use the same colors as here: red for communes, yellow for land not part of the commune, blue for Ocean. Hardouin 18:16, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

You can just make an empty map if you wish, and then I will color each commune and add the maps to the infoboxes. That I should be able to do with my limited softwares. Hardouin 18:17, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Check La Foa and South Province, New Caledonia, I explained everything there. About the maps, if we change the colors and design, would they still be considered copyrighted? An administrative division in itself is not a copyrighted thing. As a compromise, we could tag the maps as fair use. What do you think? Hardouin 14:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Community Justice
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Jutland
ok Ill see what I can do, next week I should have some time to work on this. I think my grandmothers parents or something like that were danish so it should be interesting researching it. Would you want it to show the counties as well? -- Astrokey44 |talk 23:54, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

About the Administrative division map of Chile article
Hello, please understand me, The picture of Administrative division map of Chile is so too long to fit the picture in the Politics section of Chile article, thank you, --Joseph Solis, 09:12 UTC, 13 April 2006

Would you please help me with an RfC of Kven users?
Hi. I would really appreciate a settlement on the Kven article (and Varangians). I can't just arbitrarily revert this user; that's bad for me. And all this arguing that leads nowhere.

I've now started on User:Fred chessplayer/Kven users RfC ? Do you have the time to help out? Adding diffs, evidence of disputed behaviour, etc etc, anything will be helpful.

Fred-Chess 20:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

geohive
wao - great maps! nevertheless a little comment. IMO PNG is the preferred format and maybe it's better to upload to commons? Best regards Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:53, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * thx for your reply. I recall there have been patent issues with gif, but step by step, depending on region, the patent expires, so i don't know how current this is. PNG is officially supported by w3-consortium, some claim it's better than gif, but e.g. there are no animated PNGs as there are with gif.
 * upload to commons has the advantage that all other languages wikipedia can use the images too.
 * ... :-) best regards Tobias Conradi (Talk) 11:17, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for this work, man! I was looking at Italy and I assume the numbering of the regions is according to the alphabethical order. I guess Sicilia is wrong numbered, should be 15, after Sardegna (14), not 19 as that's Valle d'Aosta. Thank you for the correction. MiShogun 10:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Community Justice/Elections
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Computerjoe 's talk 20:54, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Inspiration
Hey Adamsky, you have really given me some ideas for my own user page. Thank you for the encouragement and influence! Mappychris 09:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC)mappychris

Norway, Skagerrak, and passing water
Hello! I hope you're well. I'm still on my wikibreak of sorts; regardless ... Let me know if you've any questions. Thanks again! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 16:38, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * (1) Finally, I've uploaded a detailed geopolitical map of Norway (also note that another already exists in the dedicated county subarticle). It is partially inspired by a similarly loaded map of Canada, which I also created.  I regret not getting this to you sooner but, as you can imagine, love doesn't come quickly. :)  So, who's your daddy now?  Let-me-know-whatyathink!
 * (2) Relatedly, I'm willing to craft a map for Jutland/Denmark or anything else you think necessary; it may take me awhile (days) but the proof is in the pudding. Anyhow, let me know.
 * (3) Thanks for your interest in the proposed oceans wikiproject. Based on the intent, I think it best to call it:
 * WikiProject Hydrography
 * This is an over-arching descriptor that entails oceanography (study of oceans and seas) and limnology (lakes). And even though you're not an expert per se, nor am I, I'm sure we can both learn from it.  I'll pull something together shortly.

Hello there! No problem for the delay; I've been similarly swamped. I've always been interested in geography, but I'm actually a student of biology and political science and a fundraiser by profession. A polymath of sorts ... ;)

Thanks for the feedback regarding the map of Norway. Comments:
 * I deliberated a bit over Svalbard/Jan Mayen and believe I've covered off on their unique nature adequately, hence their renditions on the map (see the legend). Svalbard is not a region per se but still significant: any sovereign or unique polities are rendered on the map in a distinct bold, thick font (as Svalbard is, q.v., Aland).  Countries are in similar font but upper case.  Lacking an altenate way to render it, note that Svalbard is a shade of violet which, effectively, is a variant of blue meant to hark of its nordicity.  (I will tweak the text legend on the talk page of the map, though.)
 * I borrowed the rendition for Greenland from the above indicated map of Canada which, in turn, is the form provided for in the Atlas of Canada; so I think it is a modus vivendi regarding that territory.

It actually mightn't be too much to retrofit the current map for your specific stated purpose (ack!), so I'll put it in on my to-do list ... give me some days, though. In the interim, let me know if you've any questions; thanks again! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 12:49, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Hydrography...
Hi again. Thanks for your interest and comments. As this is an encyclopedia, containing comprehensive information, I believe it prudent for the proposed project to have a wider scope ... particularly if attempts to roll Wp into a periodic static version (Wikipedia 1.0) are realised. This will also faciliate consistency and allow for growth: to paraphrse: think globally, act locally. :)

The propopsed macrocategory will allow for the following parentage:

 * Hydrography (q.v. Geography):
 * Oceanography: oceans and seas
 * Limnology: inland (freshwater) lakes

I envision all said bodies of water having a consistent infobox (a la the country wikiproject, but obviously not as elaborate), which also lends credence to organising this project under one moniker.

I think hydrology which deals with the science of water (like the water cycle, etc.) and other aspects, not necessarily synonymous with the above, would be too broad for what I'm thinking; however, I'd fully support the hydrography project being rolled into it or another. And I still think your scope of interest – viz. 'political oceanography' – can be fully satisfied within this structure.

I'll pull something together in the next week or so. Hailing frequencies shall remain open. E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 14:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your praise. Indeed, Wp is a learning experience; sometimes, though, it is sometimes one of how not to do this-or-that or of people to avoid ... present company excluded, of course! :)

 * As for other bodies of water: yes – note that the proposed wikiproject name accommodates all of them. I'll keep you apprised.  Ta!  :)

CJ election reminder
Hi Adamsky I noticed that you are not registered for voting or nomination in the CJ elections, and would like to remind everyone that '''all Candidates Must Submit Their Statement By April 23rd. Voting will begin April 24th, and end May 1st'''. More details on how to nominate yourself can be found HERE. I hope to see you at the elections!  • The Giant Puffin •  20:24, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Where is My Contribution?
Hello. I created a new article and submitted it on 4/17/06 at 11:00 a.m. PST. (Today is 4/19/06 at 2:30 p.m. PST. A search on the title results in a message saying there are no articles about this topic on Wikipedia. Perhaps it is too soon for the article to appear?

I also tried searching the list of recent deletions, but could not find it there. If it has been deleted it would be helpful to know why so that I can educate myself and submit articles that better fit your requirements. If I erred in the submission process, that would be helpful to know, too. Where should I look next? Many thanks for your help.Jayme Curtis 21:33, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you posted your article to Articles for creation. As yet, no-one has seen fit to actually make the article, for whatever reason. As a registered user, you can create the article yourself, by following this link: Achievo Corporation, and copying the text in there. The text is here if you need a record of it. I would advise you to read Editing help in order to ensure that your article is correctly formatted and also to ensure that the article is an encyclopaedia article, rather than simply promotional material for the company. --Cherry blossom tree 22:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Replied here. BigAdamsky | TALK | EDITS | 12:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Help!!
There are several censors/revisionists on Wikipedia who are determined to delete or gut anythign they personally do not agree with or like. One of these is an editor named Demiurge whose relentless attempts at censorship, blocked only when he is caught red-handed by third party Wikipedians, continues unabated. Please review his attempts to delete my additions to the Tim Pat Coogan wikipage. Evidently he is not the only one.

Demiurge is an Irish censor and a Catholic apologist who has attempted to delete edits to pages as various as Ante Pavelic, Tim Pat Coogan, pre-Code (related, ironically, to movie censorship in the USA by the Catholic church), Eamon de Valera (refugee policy during WWII), and many others. Is this individual going to be permitted to censor, delete, edit, sanitize, gut, or whatever he cares to do, with no one stopping him??? He has just blocked my sourced and cited additions to the Wikipage of Tim Pat Coogan (pls. check edit history).

I do not have my own computer so I am using a rental, but if you wish to contact me, please email me at karas_peter@yahoo.com (my friend's email address). I would like to receive a valid reason for his abusive attempts at censorship regarding his "pet" issues.

Will you please consider looking into this matter?

Thank You, 70.19.67.28 22:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S.: This is a very black harbinger for Wikipedia, and its helplessness to block abusive editors, and certainly administrators (which Demiurge is not yet, fortunately, but he will certainly attempt to become one).

 * Replied here. BigAdamsky | TALK | EDITS | 12:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Postcards
Perhaps that link in "Anti-Semitism' to the vintagepostcards.com might be a bit too commercial? But thanks anyway -- I'm a postcard collector myself (in a rather specialized category), and I love looking at this stuff. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 22:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

User:Fred chessplayer/Kven users RfC
It appears as though the subject of the intended RfC is not an active editory at the moment, so I don't feel motivated, for now, to enlist it at Requests_for_comment/User_conduct. But I encourage anyone to continue the page in the mean while.

Fred-Chess 08:33, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

commons.wikimedia.org
any reason why don't you upload to commons? The maps you bring here are really great. All other language wikis could benefit from it too. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 14:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

 * not very problematic to set up an account over there. And linking from enWP still is the same. You fame will be much bigger if you upload there. Otherwise people maybe will download the img, upload it at commons, tag it there again, and finally go through deleting it here. Or the image will be double uploaded, once here, later by someoneelse on commons. (or in between on nl,de,es,it).

 * if you keep logged in at commons the upload should go very fast. In the beginning of commons I worked a lot at commons:Category:Maps to good categorize the images. But don't care, just put it in the main cat, other people can better categorize it later. What do I need to do to convince you ? ;-) Tobias Conradi (Talk) 14:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * if I don't catch you by fame I have to look for something else ;-). I would not download all the images. But maybe you have them on your computer? I think they have an upload service over there, i.e. one could mail the stuff to someone who will then upload. Shall I have a look? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 14:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Persian people
Could you take a look at the first sentence in this section? It claims that Persians are descendants of some "Aryan tribes" migrating from Central Asia. Sounds like outdated racial theories to me. The same source (Britannica) says Persians are of mixed ancentry, but when I try to add this in people remove it. I don't think this is consistent with WP:NPOV. Could you take a look at this and leave a comment? Thanks, AucamanTalk 06:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

User talk:S9arthur
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:S9arthur&oldid=51345284 Still hiding complaints and of course, not archiving it either. I present the correct version of the editor's talk page, but remember to check the edit history. This editor is still controlling the] Melungeon article, not allowing any other contributor to present their knowledge to the fore. Of course, erasing complaints would make the editor pretend there is nothing wrong. I do not see this editor as ever coming around. IP Address 10:32, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Italy map
Hey Big - the map you added to the Provinces of Italy page was a nice map, however, it was redundant (as there already was a provinces map of Italy on the page) - and the numbers on your map had no reference on the page. Hope you don't mind, but I did remove it - unless you think it could replace the current provinces map - in which case, I would ask the creator of the other map if he wouldn't mind it being replaced first. Biggest thing is to avoid a lot of clutter on the page. I know I worked hard on putting the region maps broken down into provinces for reference and wouldn't like the same to occur without a user suggesting/asking. What do you think? Rarelibra 15:05, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Good work with Italy regions. I suggest you change the number of Sicilia to 15 as in the correct alphabetical order behind Sardegna. Thanx 8) MiShogun 22:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

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AfD for Right- and Left- wing terrorism articles - have your say
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Military history
Just wanted to make you aware that a Maritime warfare task force has been established under the Military history project. Inge 15:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposed Georgia Move
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Wikipedian geographers category
Hey Big Adamsky, I still have not forgotten the warm welcome you gave me. I created a "Wikipedian geographers" category due to the need for a Wikipedian geographer classification scheme and the fact that one was not in existence. I went ahead and added you. Hopefully, all of the Wiki-geographers will add the category. If you need anything, don't hesitate to ask.

Your fellow geographer, Mappychris 02:07, 9 July 2006 (UTC)mappychris

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Transcontinental nation move request...
...at Talk:Transcontinental nation -  AjaxSmack   08:45, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Can you please tag this picture correctly
Image:Irland protestants 1861-1991.gif Thanks (Gnevin 22:57, 21 August 2006 (UTC))

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Geography Wikiproject
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Query at WikiProject Country subdivisions
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WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology
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Fair-use image removed from your user page
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WP:NC(GN)
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Help
Could you offer up a non-biased, neutral opinion to a few surveys for naming convention changes? The pages are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:South_Tyrol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Trentino-South_Tyrol, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bozen-Bolzano. Thanks! Rarelibra 20:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Andorra.geohive.gif
I tried to add a legend to the Andorra.geohive.gif image you made. I saved it as a png because the gif didn't handle the aliasing of the text as well. However, I couldn't figure out how to upload it to replace the existing image. I tried to re-create your original text on the png image, but that clearly screwed up. The png image is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Andorra.geohive.png but now I don't know how to fix things correctly and could use some help. Jeff Carr 02:57, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Former countries
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Valdivia
Unless you confused Valdivias flag with saint patricks, you want to travel to Valdivia. Im from Valdivia but has lived 5 years in Sweden (svenska?). Im searching for potencial colaborators for a future wikiproject about a Chile, Southern Chile, Patagonia or Valdivia realted topic. Would you care to colaborate? De n t r en |  Talk  04:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Tectonic plates
Hello, I've taken the liberty of changing the image of tectonic plates you have on your user page to Image:Plates tect2 en.svg per recommendations on the earlier image's page. Hope you don't mind. Cheers, Ouro (blah blah) 20:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of placenames containing the word "new"
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British India
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Punk
You're nothing but a little Smartass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.37.250.111 (talk) 14:51, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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The Punisher (2001 series)

The Punisher is the sixth eponymous Marvel Comics comic book series featuring the character Frank Castle, also known as the Punisher. It consists of 37 issues as part of the Marvel Knights imprint. Most of the issues in this series are written by Garth Ennis; however, Tom Peyer, Steve Dillon, and Ron Zimmerman also feature as writers.

Publication history
The series continues on from Ennis' The Punisher 2000 limited series. The Russian, who was decapitated in the previous series, is resurrected using stolen S.H.I.E.L.D. technology and returns as one of the main antagonists in this series.

Reception
The series holds an average rating of 5.1 by eight professional critics on the review aggregation website Comic Book Roundup.

Collected editions
The series has been collected into individual volumes. However, The Punisher #8-12 of vol. 6 were not written by Ennis and are not collected among the following volumes. Instead, the issues were collected in a separate paperback titled Marvel Knights Punisher by Peyer & Gutierrez: Taxi Wars. Included in the lone paperback is PUNISHER X-MAS SPECIAL (2006) #1, SPIDER-MAN VS. PUNISHER #1 and material from MARVEL KNIGHTS DOUBLE-SHOT #4 ISBN 1302916335

Paperback:
 * Volume 1: Welcome Back, Frank (collects The Punisher vol. 5, #1-12), June 2001, ISBN 978-0-7851-0783-5 (Panini, ISBN 1-904159-21-4)
 * Volume 2: Army of One (collects The Punisher vol. 6, #1-7), February 2002, ISBN 978-0-7851-0839-9
 * Volume 3: Business As Usual (collects The Punisher vol. 6, #13-18), November 2003, ISBN 978-0-7851-1014-9
 * Volume 4: Full Auto (collects The Punisher vol. 6, #20-26), July 2003, ISBN 978-0-7851-1149-8
 * Volume 5: Streets of Laredo (collects The Punisher vol. 6, #19, 27-32), December 2003, ISBN 978-0-7851-1096-5
 * Volume 6: Confederacy of Dunces (collects The Punisher vol. 6, #33-37), July 2004, ISBN 978-0-7851-1344-7

Hardcover:
 * Volume 1 (collects The Punisher vol. 5, #1-12; Marvel Knights: Double Shot #1; Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe), June 2002, ISBN 978-0-7851-0982-2
 * Volume 2 (collects The Punisher vol. 6, #1-7, 13-18), June 2003, ISBN 978-0-7851-1170-2
 * Volume 3 (collects The Punisher vol. 6, #19-27), March 2004, ISBN 978-0-7851-1317-1

The Complete Collections:
 * Marvel Knights Punisher by Garth Ennis: The Complete Collection Vol. 1, (collects The Punisher vol. 5, #1-12; Marvel Knights: Double Shot #1; Punisher Kills the Marvel Universe), December 2018, ISBN 978-1302914080
 * Marvel Knights Punisher by Garth Ennis: The Complete Collection Vol. 2, (collects The Punisher vol. 6, #1-7, #13-26; Material From Marvel Knights Double Shot #1), March 2019, ISBN 978-1302916077
 * Marvel Knights Punisher by Garth Ennis: The Complete Collection Vol. 3, (collects The Punisher vol. 6, #27-37; Punisher: War Zone vol. 1, #1-6), June 2019, ISBN 978-1302918651

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Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Stintino Beach

Stintino Beach

See how it's beautiful when greenish mediterranean vegetation meets the various blue colors of this uncontaminated sea in Sardinia, Italy. This photo was taken on June 2005.

 * Nominate and support. - Paolo2K5 16:11, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Ordinary, and there's that yellow thing on the bottom left. Enochlau 04:48, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I will still oppose the edited version. It's overly cliched. Enochlau 10:38, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. That yellow thing does sort of kill it. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 21:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The cropped one is better, but what makes this pic special? Isn't it just an ordinary rocky-type beach? -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 19:21, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I've added a cropped version that removes the yellow thing. I will support the new version. Raven4x4x 08:54, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Yellow dot aside, this photo lacks a particular subject and, though beautiful and indeed colorful, is quite boring as a result. CapeCodEph 07:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose - where have I seen this before? Oh, yes, in every travel brochure! It's... Thelb4! 20:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. I like it. It's nice to look at and beautiful. --ScottyBoy900Q ∞ 02:51, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 *  ( − ) Oppose Nothing special to me. --Fir0002 02:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Broken S 03:22, 15 October 2005 (UTC)


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Liberal education

A liberal education is a system or course of education suitable for the cultivation of a free (liber) human being. It is based on the medieval concept of the liberal arts or, more commonly now, the liberalism of the Age of Enlightenment. It has been described as "a philosophy of education that empowers individuals with broad knowledge and transferable skills, and a stronger sense of values, ethics, and civic engagement ... characterized by challenging encounters with important issues, and more a way of studying than a specific course or field of study" by the Association of American Colleges and Universities. Usually global and pluralistic in scope, it can include a general education curriculum which provides broad exposure to multiple disciplines and learning strategies in addition to in-depth study in at least one academic area.

Liberal education was advocated in the 19th century by thinkers such as John Henry Newman, Thomas Huxley, and F. D. Maurice. The decline of liberal education is often attributed to mobilization during the Second World War. The premium and emphasis placed upon mathematics, science, and technical training caused a shift away from a liberal concept of higher education studies; however, it became central to much undergraduate education in the United States in the mid-20th century, being conspicuous in the movement for general education.

Definition
Wilfred Griffin Eady, the Principal of the Working Men's College from 1949 to 1955, defined the liberal education his institution sought to provide as "something you can enjoy for its own sake, something which is a personal possession and an inward enrichment, and something which teaches a sense of values".

The American Association for the Advancement of Science describes a liberal education in this way: "Ideally, a liberal education produces persons who are open-minded and free from provincialism, dogma, preconception, and ideology; conscious of their opinions and judgments; reflective of their actions; and aware of their place in the social and natural worlds." Liberally educated people are skeptical of their own traditions; they are trained to think for themselves rather than conform to higher authorities.

It also cultivates "active citizenship" through off-campus community service, internships, research, and study abroad. Some faculty see this movement towards "civic engagement" as more pedagogically powerful than traditional classroom teaching, but opponents argue that the education occurring within an academic institution must be purely intellectual and scholarly.

A liberal education combines an education in the classics, literature, the humanities, moral virtues, and others. The term liberal education in the modern sense should not be confused with liberal arts education; the latter deals with academic subjects, while the former deals with ideological subjects. Indeed, a liberal arts education does not necessarily include a liberal education, and a liberal arts program may even be as specialized as a vocational program. For practical purposes, liberal education is not actually differentiated from liberal arts education today, except by scholars.

Unlike a professional and vocational education that prepares students for their careers, a liberal education prepares students to utilize their leisure time. Such an education helps the individual navigate internal and external conflicts in life. For example, a liberal education aims to help students be self-conscious and aware of their actions and motivations. Individuals also become more considerate for other beliefs and cultures. According to James Engel, the author of The Value of a Liberal Arts Education, A liberal education provides the framework for an educated and thoughtful citizen.

History
Definitions of a liberal education may be broad, generalized, and sometimes even contradictory. "It is at once the most enduring and changeable of academic traditions." Axelrod, Anisef, and Lin suggest that conceptions of liberal education are rooted in the teaching methods of Ancient Greece, a slave-owning community divided between slaves and freemen. The freemen, mostly concerned about their rights and obligations as citizens, received a non-specialized, non-vocational, liberal arts education that produced well-rounded citizens aware of their place in society. At the same time, Socrates emphasized the importance of individualism, impressing upon his students the duty of man to form his own opinions through reason rather than indoctrination. Athenian education also provided a balance between developing the mind and the body. Another possibility is that liberal education dates back to the Zhou Dynasty, where the teachings of Confucianism focused on propriety, morality, and social order. Hoerner also suggests that Jesus was a liberal educator, as "he was talking of a free man capable of thinking for himself and of being a responsible citizen," but liberal education is still commonly traced back to the Greeks.

While liberal education was stifled during the barbarism of the Early Middle Ages, it rose to prominence once again in the eleventh and twelfth centuries, especially with the re-emergence of Aristotelian philosophy. The thirteenth and fourteenth centuries saw a revolt against narrow spirituality and educators started to focus on the human, rather than God. This humanist approach favored reason, nature and aesthetics.

Study of the Classics and humanities slowly returned in the fourteenth century, which led to increased study of both Ancient Greek and Latin. In the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, liberal education focused mostly on the classics. Commoners, however, were not too keen on studying the classics, so they instead took up vernacular languages and literature, and also the sciences. Until at least the twentieth century, both humanist and classicist influences remained in the liberal education, and proponents of a progressive education also embraced the humanist philosophy. Study of the classics continued in the form of the Great Books program. Robert Maynard Hutchins brought this program to the University of Chicago. Upon Hutchins' resignation, the university got rid of the program, but an adapted version still exists at Shimer College.

While liberal education is a Western movement, it has been influential in other regions as well. For example, in Japan during the general liberalism of the Taishō period, there was a liberal education movement that saw the establishment of a number of schools based on liberal education in the 1920s – see 大正自由教育運動.

Relationship with professional education
Liberal education and professional education have often been seen as divergent. German universities moved towards more professional teaching in the nineteenth century, and unlike American students, who still pursued a liberal education, students elsewhere started to take professional courses in the first or second year of study. In the early twentieth century, American liberal arts colleges still required students to pursue a common curriculum, whereas public universities allowed a student to move on to more pragmatic courses after having taken general education courses for the first two years of study. As an emphasis on specialized knowledge grew in the middle of the century, colleges began to adjust the proportion of required general education courses to those required for a particular major.

As University of Chicago professor Martha Nussbaum points out, standardized testing has placed more emphasis on honing technical knowledge, and its quantitative, multiple-choice nature prompts rote learning in the classroom. At the same time, humanistic concepts such as imagination and critical thinking, which cannot be tested by such methods, are disappearing from college curricula.

Thirty percent of college graduates in the United States may eventually work in jobs that do not exist yet. Proponents of a liberal education therefore argue that a postsecondary education must prepare students for an increasingly complex labor market. Rather than provide narrowly designed technical courses, a liberal education would foster critical thinking and analytical skills that allow the student to adapt to a rapidly changing workforce. The movement towards career-oriented courses within a liberal education has begun at places like Dartmouth College, where a journalism course combines lessons on writing style with reading and analyzing historical journalism. An American survey of CEOs published in 1997 revealed that employers were more focused on the long-term outcomes of education, such as adaptability, than college students and their parents, who were more concerned with the short-term outcomes of getting a job.

Provision
As of 2009, said only eight percent of colleges provide a liberal education to four percent of students in the United States. Liberal education revived three times in the United States during periods of industrialization and shifts of social preoccupations—before World War I, after World War II, and in the late 1970s—perhaps as a reaction against overspecialization in undergraduate curricula.

Currently, pressures from employers, parents and governments have defined the type of education offered at educational institutions. Such trends have curtailed the role of education offered in America. Universities have now provided education for the sole purpose to prepare students for the workforce. This idea has negatively influenced the credibility of liberal education which has impacted how students view higher education. The negative impact being a focus on specific disciplinary practices separating it from the original ideology of liberal education as "...a philosophy of education that empowers individuals with broad knowledge and transferable skills, and a stronger sense of values, ethics, and civic engagement ..." Politicians have influenced the type of education provided at universities. These politicians have been recently cutting the funds for universities applying immense pressure on higher educational institutions. Lack of funds have caused many to abandon the liberal arts curricula. Therefore, universities have been forced to provide a curriculum useful for providing a vocational education. The lack of funds to maintain a balanced education system has caused American universities to provide an education with a lack of emphasis on liberal values.

The disappearance of liberal education can also be traced to Liberal Art Colleges. Students are beginning to view higher education as a preparation for careers. This has then led to the natural selection of colleges. The thought of having education that instructs to enhance the individual for the purpose of improving society does not meet current demands. Thus, as a result, Liberal Art Colleges are diminishing along with the emphasis on providing a liberal education.

Chinese universities began to implement liberal curricula between the 1920s and 1940s, but shifted to specialized education upon the establishment of the People's Republic of China in 1949. Higher education reform in the 1990s returned to liberal education. In 2000 Peking University started to offer a liberal education curriculum to its undergraduate students, followed by other institutions throughout the country. In Hong Kong, The Chinese University of Hong Kong has implemented a collegiate system since the establishment of the university in 1960s and since then, it has been known for its emphasis in general education in greater China.

Some of the universities in India have started offering Liberal Arts Education. Ahmedabad University is one such young university which offers students a liberal education focused on research and interdisciplinary learning.

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Shirley Clarke

Shirley Clarke (née Brimberg; October 2, 1919 – September 23, 1997) was an American filmmaker.

Life
Born Shirley Brimberg in New York City, she was the daughter of a Polish-immigrant father who made his fortune in manufacturing. Her mother was the daughter of a multimillionaire Jewish manufacturer and inventor. The eldest of three daughters, her sister was the writer Elaine Dundy. Her interest in dance began at an early age, but met with the disapproval of her father, a violent bully.

Clarke attended Stephens College, Johns Hopkins University, Bennington College, and University of North Carolina. As a result of dance lessons at each of these schools, she trained under the Martha Graham technique, the Humphrey-Weidman technique, and the Hanya Holm method of modern dance. She married Bert Clarke to escape her father's control, so she could study dance under the masters in New York City. Their daughter Wendy was born in 1944. Her marriage to Bert ended in divorce in 1963. She began her career as a dancer in the New York avant-garde modern dance movement. She was an avid participant in dance lessons and performances at the Young Women's Hebrew Association.

In 1972, Clarke was a signatory to a campaign of Ms. magazine, "We Have Had Abortions", which called for an end to "archaic laws" limiting reproductive freedom; the participants encouraged women to share their stories and take action.

Short films
In her first film, Dance in the Sun (1953), she adapted a choreography of Daniel Nagrin. The New York Dance Film Society selected it as the best dance film of the year. In Dance in the Sun (1953), Clarke made use of rhythmic shots, shooting a dance on stage and then cutting from the stage to the beach and back and forth throughout the film. She crossed over from being a dancer, to being a filmmaker and expressing her art through a new medium.

Clarke studied filmmaking with Hans Richter at the City College of New York after making In Paris Parks (1954). In 1955, she became a member of the Independent Filmmakers of America and was part of a circle of independent filmmakers in Greenwich Village such as Maya Deren, Stan Brakhage, Jonas Mekas, and Lionel Rogosin.

In A Moment in Love, Clarke used abstract line and color to capture pure dance. Clarke's film Bridges Go-Round (1958) is a major example of abstract expressionism in film, with two alternative soundtracks, one with electronic music by Louis and Bebe Barron and the other is jazz orientated and was created by Teo Macero. She used the camera to create a sense of motion while filming inanimate structures. She was also involved with films produced by the US Information Agency for the 1958 Brussels World Exposition.

She received an Academy Award nomination for Skyscraper (1959) with two other documentary filmmakers. Mainly shot in 1958, the short film captures the construction of 666 Fifth Avenue that began in 1957. The 20-minute film includes shots of the Roxy Theatre which was demolished the year Skyscraper was released. In 1959, it won the Golden Gate Award at the San Francisco International Film Festival.

A Scary Time (1960), showing poverty and disease among children in Third World nations, was produced by UNICEF in consultation with Thorold Dickinson. It features music by Peggy Glanville-Hicks.

Features released in the 1960s
Clarke described the impact her experience as a woman had on her filmmaking:"There are several reasons why I succeeded at all. One, I had enough money that I didn't have to become a secretary to survive. And secondly, I have developed this personality, this way of being...I happen to have chosen a field where I have to be out there, to constantly connect, to be in charge of vast amounts of money, equipment and people. And that is not particularly a woman's role in our society...I identified with black people because I couldn't deal with the woman question and I transposed it. I could understand very easily the black problems, and I somehow equated them to how I felt. When I did The Connection, which was about junkies, I knew nothing about junk and cared less. It was a symbol--people who are on the outside. I always felt alone, and on the outside of the culture that I was in. I grew up in a time when women weren't running things. They still aren't."

In 1962, she described, her objectives: "I'm revolting against the conventions of movies. Who says a film has to cost a million dollars and be safe and innocuous enough to satisfy every 12-year-old in America?"

The Connection
Her first feature film The Connection (1961), from the play by Jack Gelber, concerns heroin-addicted jazz musicians, and was part of the emergence of a New York independent feature film movement. The film heralded a new style addressing relevant social issues in black-and-white low-budget films. Clarke intended the film to be used as a test case in a successful fight to abolish New York State's censorship rules. It also served as a commentary on the failures of cinema verité. It is meant to appear to document the spontaneous interactions of a contemporary, specific lifestyle (Bohemian New York of the early 1960s).

The Connection generated controversy and discussion in the downtown New York City arts community. The original play by Jack Gelber had been condemned by mainstream critics during its performances off-Broadway, but had still drawn an audience that included "Leonard Bernstein, Anita Loos, Salvador Dalí and Lillian Hellman, who likened it to 'a fine time at the circus'".

Clarke was determined to film the play, and once completed, it received favorable reviews. It was screened out of competition at the Cannes Film Festival in 1961, where again it was received positively. American Beat generation celebrities who were in Europe at the time traveled to Cannes to show support for Clarke's film. Screenings of The Connection in New York State were subsequently banned following complaints alleging indecency, based on a shot that included a pornographic magazine and a word deemed obscene. At the time, New York State only permitted films to be publicly screened if they had received a license from the State's board of censors. Another attempt was made to publicly screen the film a year later, only for the police to intervene, as the filmmakers still did not have a license from the State's board of censors. Following these incidents, critical reviews of The Connection became predominantly negative. The situation made it difficult for Clarke to organize funding and distribution for her film projects.

While filming The Connection, she fell in love with actor Carl Lee. Following her divorce from Bert Clarke, she began a relationship with Lee that lasted until his death in 1986 from AIDS, which he had contracted from his use of a dirty hypodermic needle.

Later in the decade
In 1961, Clarke signed the manifesto "Statement for a New American Cinema", and in 1962, she co-founded The Film-Makers' Cooperative in New York with Jonas Mekas.

Robert Frost: A Lover's Quarrel With the World (1963), directed by Clarke and starring the poet Robert Frost, won the Academy Award for Documentary Feature.

Based on a novel by Warren Miller, Clarke's feature, The Cool World (1964), followed the life of a young man who rose to be the leader of a juvenile gang. The first movie to dramatize a story on black street gangs without relying upon Hollywood-style moralizing, it was shot on location in Harlem and produced by Frederick Wiseman. The Cool World was the first independently made film to be screened at the Venice International Film Festival.

Clarke directed a feature-length interview with a gay black male prostitute, Portrait of Jason (1967) which was selected for the New York Film Festival. Edited from 12 hours of interview footage, the film was described by Lauren Rabinovitz as an exploration of one "person's character while it simultaneously addresses the range and limitations of cinema-verité style". Portrait of Jason (1967) had a mixed response from American critics. With the exception of non-mainstream publications, reviewers were generally negative focusing on Clarke's supposed "morbid viewpoint and the lack of production polish". Portrait of Jason had a better reception in Europe. The film was distributed by the Film-Makers Distribution Center. Co-founded by Clarke in 1966, the distributor closed in 1970 after encountering financial difficulties.

Video works and other projects
In the 1970s and early 1980s, Clarke experimented with live video performance, returning to her roots as a dancer. She formed The TeePee Video Space Troupe at her Hotel Chelsea penthouse. This group included video artists Andy Gurian, Bruce Ferguson, Stephanie Palewski, DeeDee Halleck, Vickie Polan, Shrider Bapat, Clarke's daughter Wendy Clarke, and many others. The Troupe were also early experimenters with taped video performance, installation and documentation.

After working on video films for several years at the Hotel Chelsea, Clarke was approached by Roger Corman to work on his next film Crazy Mama (1975). This sparked disagreements over creative approaches. Clarke realized that Corman was expecting a protègé without film experience. In a 1985 interview, Clarke stated that she did not believe the situation would have occurred had she been a male filmmaker:"Clearly he couldn't be talking to an established filmmaker who had gotten prizes and stuff. He didn't know who I was at all. [...] Would he ever talk to a man like that? He didn't trust me, that's for sure. There's deep discrimination against women artists that is still very strong. I was a representative of tokenism. I was relied on to be the woman filmmaker. No one person can carry that burden. There's no question that my career would have been different if I was a man, but if I was a man I would be a different human being."

From time to time, members of the pioneering video collective Videofreex were part of the Troupe: David Cort, Parry Teasdale, Chuck Kennedy, Skip Blumberg, Bart Freidman, and Nancy Cain. The troupe worked in and around the Hotel Chelsea on West 23rd St in New York City, often setting up multiple cameras and monitors on the roof or in the stairwell. The Chelsea guest participants included Viva, Arthur C. Clarke (no relation), Severn Darden, and Agnès Varda. The troupe went on tour to colleges and media centers, including Bucknell College in Pennsylvania, where they worked with drama and dance students in a massive evening performance in the student center, and SUNY Cortland, where they created a video mural with art students.

Clarke's final film was Ornette: Made in America (1985), a documentary profile of the jazz saxophonist and composer Ornette Coleman.

Other activities
In addition to directing her own films, Clarke played an independent filmmaker in the cinéma vérité-style comedy Lions Love (1969) by Agnès Varda. Clarke also appears briefly in the documentary He Stands in a Desert Counting the Seconds of His Life (1986) by Jonas Mekas. Clarke's legs appeared in John Lennon and Yoko Ono's 1971 film Up Your Legs Forever.

Clarke lectured regularly, speaking at theaters and museums. During the period between 1971 and 1974, Clarke led number of Teepee touring workshops in a variety of venues and institutions including the Kitchen, the Museum of Modern art ('Open Circuits'), Antioch College, Baltimore, Wesleyan College, Bucknell University, Film Study Center, Hampshire College and the University of Buffalo. Clarke became a professor at UCLA in 1975, teaching film and video until 1983.

Death and legacy
Clarke died of a stroke in Boston, Massachusetts after a struggle with Alzheimer's disease, shortly before her 78th birthday.

The only full-length feature to receive wide media coverage during Clarke's lifetime was The Connection. It was not her only film subject to bans by New York State censors, or distribution challenges posed by the lack of infrastructure for independent filmmakers. Clarke's reputation languished for many years, during a period when she was "marginalized, written out of histories and dismissed as a dilettante". There has been renewed interest in her filmmaking, however. The first Shirley Clarke Avant-Garde Filmmaker Award was presented to Barbara Hammer in October 2006. Thomas Cohen, in a 2012 book discussing her career, described her features as "films considered essential works of New American Cinema".

From 2012 onwards, Milestone Films undertook "Project Shirley", an in-depth, eight-year project to release restored versions of many of Clarke's films on DVD and Blu-ray, preceded by limited theatrical runs. This encompassed Ornette: Made in America (Volume 1, November 11, 2014), Portrait of Jason (Volume 2, November 11, 2014), The Connection (Volume 3, February 24, 2015) and ''The Magic Box: The Films of Shirley Clarke. 1927-1986'' (Volume 4, November 15, 2016).

Filmography

 * A Dance in the Sun (1953)
 * In Paris Parks (1954)
 * Bullfight (1955)
 * A Moment in Love (1957)
 * Brussels "Loops (1958)
 * Bridges-Go-Round (1958)
 * Skyscraper (1959) with Willard Van Dyke and Irving Jacoby
 * A Scary Time (1960)
 * The Connection (1961)
 * Robert Frost: A Lover's Quarrel with the World (1963)
 * The Cool World (1963)
 * Portrait of Jason (1967)
 * Man in Polar Regions (1967)
 * Trans (1978)
 * One Two Three (1978)
 * Mysterium; Initiation (1978)
 * Savage/Love (1981)
 * Tongues (1982)
 * Ornette: Made in America (1985)

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Talk:Río Rico, Tamaulipas

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I just changed "that was the last time" to "that was the most recent time". "Last" generally has the implication that no further modifications will ever happen, whereas "most recent" and "latest" do not preclude the possibility. Does anyone think it's inappropriate? Or was it too much of a grammatical detail to bother with? samwaltz 16:26, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't agree with this new grammatical change. I read the sentence and wondered, "As of sometime, that was the most recent time.  Is it still the most recent time?  What is the date of that statement?"  Mrendo 13:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Location
I believe that this should go back to Rio Rico, Texas. This was moved to plain Rio Rico. The article is written in the past tense, and that Rio Rico, Texas does not now exist doesn't remove the fact that it used to exist. It would be analagous to redirecting an article about New Mexico Territory to New Mexico (state), with the justification that it shouldn't have its own article because it no longer exists. Furthermore, the wording in its present form would lead one to believe that Rio Rico as a city might not now exist anywhere, when in fact it is a small part of present Rio Rico, Tamaulipas, Mexico. However, as most of Rio Rico, Tamaulipas was never a part of Rio Rico, Texas, a wholesale redirect to that location would be wrong, too.

Furthermore there are many places in the world named Rio Rico, and so plain Rio Rico is too ambiguous. Dr U 07:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Rio Rico, Texas → Rio Rico, Tamaulipas — This city is in Tamaulipas, not Texas — Dancarney (talk) 12:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

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 * Strongly Oppose - This article is about the historical city of Rio Rico, Texas -- a city that once existed in US State of Texas. Changing this article to Rio Rico, Tamaulipas, Mexico would be a disservice to history and deny the existance of a town in Texas history. In any case, most of modern day Rio Rico, Tamps. is not part of the small historical area known as Rio Rico, Texas, therefore a re-direct would also be inaccurate. If you feel strongly about Rio Rico, Tamaulipas having its own article, a request should be made to create one about the modern day settlement of Rio Rico, Tamps.  Anyhow, the current article should be left alone; a re-direct of it would deny history as well as be inaccurate. -- Nsaum75 (talk) 19:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Support - This article is about a particular plot of land and the community that is on it. The article includes the history before and after the 1977 handover to Mexico.  The geographical coordinates listed show it on the Mexican side of the current border.  Keeping this as "Texas" would be like having an article "Mexico City, Spain" which discussed Mexico City both before and after the Mexican revolution.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  21:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Support Davidwr summed it up already. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  12:49, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:

It seems to me on reading this article for the first time that it's about a cession of a tract of land more than about any city, current or former, on either side of the border. Why not name it Rio Rico cession or alternatively Horcón Tract? That seems not only more accurate but avoids conflict. Another alternative is to name it Rio Rico, Texas and Tamaulipas along the lines of Glenrio, New Mexico and Texas, although the parallel there is not exact. Station1 (talk) 11:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

additional citation requested
Does anybody have a citation to the court case which defined the citizenship status of those born in this territory? 69.143.223.157 (talk) 04:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

last sentence
I changed the last sentence to such that the residents can freely move to the rest of the US. This is not "emigration" since they are not naturalized citizen but are instead US citizen by birth according to the ruling. SYSS Mouse (talk) 21:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

What was the other one?
"This was one of only two cessions of land by the US to a foreign country after 1959." Don't just leave things like this dangling. You could have a footnote or a link here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.125.7 (talk) 22:17, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Merge
These two articles are written about essentially the same place, telling the same story. Neither is notable independent of the other, and a single article would be better if the information was all in one place. I figure the name of the town is a better choice for the merged article, because Río Rico is still an identifiable place, and it is widely mentioned in sources that talk about the border adjustment; the Horcón Tract is now indistinguishable from the surrounding land and no longer exists in any meaningful sense. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 13:26, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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