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They are also featured in the 2004 Maggie Cheung/Olivier Assayas film Clean and played as themselves.

mistake
in the introduction the article claims Old World Underground to be their second album, yet later on it says the same album is their first. So which is it? (I would fix it but I am not THAT knowledged with Metric) BadCRC 02:04, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

 * That is a definite mistake, it is their first (released) album. I'll change it. DeadDisco

Grow Up and Blow Away (2007), says it's their newest album yet to be released. June 26, 2007. That's impossible cause I've had this album long ago. Possibly a mistake? Jonmwang 03:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

 * No, it isn't because it was circulated on the internet for several years due to it not being released when it was supposed to because of the problems they had with the record label it was going to be released on; the label was purchased by another I believe. Rations 02:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Length?
the article seems a little long, and unorganized. perhaps someone with more knowledge of the band could reorganize the 'discography' into someonething slightly more readable... possibly giving their important albums pages of their own?

List of songs
The list of songs seems lengthy and unneccessary. Evan Reyes 09:12, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Commercial singles
The list of commercial singles should stay listed and they are now, they are the only singles that are available for purchasing... the others ppl keep adding are only radio released tracks which are not available to buy., 10:42, 6 of October.

from the metric MySpace Page
sorry, didn't know how to put it without a direct quote. feel free to clean it up. Superdupergc 16:33, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Emily Haines' Birthplace?
The Emily Haines page indicates she was born in India, whereas this page states North Bay, Ontario. -- 24.85.42.119 03:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

 * North Bay was edited in at 15:40, 17 July 2007 by an anonymous contributor and edited back out at 23:27, 30 November 2007. Then it came back at 22:05, 9 September 2008 until 12:58, 8 October 2008, and again at 22:00, 13 December 2008 until 04:13, 14 December 2008. There appears to be a Metric fan with a North Bay obsession. Either that or someone knows something the rest of the world doesn't. -- Justinbb (talk) 09:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Doctor Blind
I know that Metric released the song Doctor Blind before Emily Haines released it on her solo album with the Soft Skeleton. Does anyone know about when this was released? I have this song, but I cannot find any information on it. I assure you that this in not the Emily Haines version. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.205.147 (talk) 03:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't give you any source on this off the top of my head, but as far as I know, Doctor Blind was written by Emily, but not for Metric, years before the Soft Skeleton project came about. As she wasn't using it for anything, it was used by Metric live at various locations by Jimmy Shaw's request but never, to my knowledge, actually released under the Metric name. When Emily started gathering material for a solo project, she nicked Doctor Blind back. All of this is from memory, but I think that's how the story goes.DamionOWA (talk) 06:07, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

4th album release
The article previously had an uncited assertion that the fourth album would be out June 23rd; anyone know where this came from? Or, for that matter, any information regarding the new album? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.205.181.14 (talk) 02:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Dual Citizenship
Article states that she has dual citizenship, but isn't clear what those two citizenships are. As the article is written, it implies that she is Indian/Canadian. Is that correct? 翔太 「Shouta:talk」 11:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

 * In the Canadian context, "dual citizenship" usually implies the United States as the second country, a supposition that is supported by the fact that her father was American. -- Justinbb (talk) 09:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Gimme Sympathy Video
Who posted this bit about a Gimme Sympathy music video? What is the source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by EvanEtrics (talk • contribs) 21:20, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just look at www.ilovemetric.com it's right there 142.221.110.4 (talk) 21:37, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm working on a page about the Gimme Sympathy single. I screwed up the title, and i'm new so I can't change it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wyder92/Gimme_Sympathy

I would also like to add a picture of the music video to that area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wyder92 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

When did they move to Toronto from Brooklyn?
The article does not say. It opens with a lead that they are a Canadian as in Toronto band, and in the text it leaves them in a Brooklyn loft. I'd fix it, but I just don't know. --Mareklug talk 22:31, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

The Cosmopolis Soundtrack
Considering Metric perform all of the tracks in the 'Cosmopolis' soundtrack and co-wrote some of them, don't you think it ought to appear in their official discography, under the Studio albums section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CouchJarvis (talk • contribs) 18:18, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No, not Studio section, because it is not a studio album. It figures correctly in the discography article under Soundtracks. --Mareklug talk 06:56, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Improved article
I improved a lot the wiki page for Metric. It looked quite poor and with many errors before my edits. I added also some pictures. However, the article still needs more citations. Help if you can. Deepblue1 (talk) 20:46, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

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Suggestion for the Timeline
Would fit more consistently with the usual color coding for the instruments on timelines. 173.79.135.125 (talk) 05:51, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Tone of the article
This article is written too much from the band's point of view, with the focus on announcements rather than events. If the band did something, the sentence about it should say so, and when it happened, not when it was planned or announced. This just makes the article too long and wordy, and the announcements can often only be supported by references that are not independent. an exception to this might be if something was planned but for particularly interesting reasons didn't happen until much later or was cancelled.—Anne Delong (talk) 14:38, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Tour info needs to be updated
The last sentence in the Tour section reads "Metric are touring Europe and the United States during fall 2018 and winter 2019 in promotion of Art of Doubt." This needs to be updated for 2020. ~EdGl !  14:43, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

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Postvention

A postvention is an intervention conducted after a suicide, largely taking the form of support for the bereaved (family, friends, professionals and peers). Family and friends of the suicide victim may be at increased risk of suicide themselves. Postvention is a term that was first coined by Shneidman (1972), which he used to describe "appropriate and helpful acts that come after a dire event." In Schneidman's view, "the largest public health problem is neither the prevention of suicide nor the management of suicide attempts, but the alleviation of the effects of stress in the survivors whose lives are forever altered." Postvention is a process that has the objective of alleviating the effects of this stress and helping survivors to cope with the loss they have just experienced. The aim is to support and debrief those affected; and reduce the possibility of copycat suicide. Interventions recognize that those bereaved by suicide may be vulnerable to suicidal behaviour themselves and may develop complicated grief reactions. Postvention includes procedures to alleviate the distress of suicidally bereaved individuals, reduce the risk of imitative suicidal behavior, and promote the healthy recovery of the affected community. Postvention can also take many forms depending on the situation in which the suicide takes place. Schools and colleges may include postvention strategies in overall crisis plans. These strategies are designed to prevent suicide clusters and to help students cope with the emotions of loss that follow the suicide of a friend. Individual and group counseling may be offered for survivors (people affected by the suicide of an individual).

Organizations
The Suicide Aftercare Association, a 501(c)(3) public charity, was formed to reduce the possibility of suicide contagion and secondary suicides by performing biohazardous cleaning of suicide attempt and completion scenes so families are relieved of this burden.

Responding to Loss (RTL)
Responding to Loss (RTL) is one of the crisis response programs that has been used to deal with postvention at high schools. This program is part of the Community Action for Youth Survival (CAYS), which is a three-year adolescent suicide prevention project serving three counties in the Chicago area. The objective of RTL is to provide strategies that will help high school crisis teams develop a structured response to the suicide of any student or member of the staff. There are three components to this program. The first is Preparing for Crisis Training, the second is Peer Witness Intervention, and the third is Crisis Consultation. This program proved to be quite successful during its trial and the participants of the program were generally satisfied with the training that they received. As a result of this program, several schools have developed or revised their crisis team in response to a suicide. They have done this by following the Preparing for Crisis training aspect of the program and also through consulting with the CAYS program.

LOSS
The LOSS Program includes a first-response team with the objectives of delivering immediate services to the survivors of a suicide at the time of the death. This team is made up of para-professional survivor volunteers and staff members of the Baton Rouge Crisis Intervention Center, located in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The LOSS Program is different from other postvention programs in several ways. First, the LOSS team physically goes to the scenes of the suicides to begin helping the survivors to cope with their loss as close to the event of death as possible. Members of this team can provide access to the needed resources and can begin the grieving process at the scene of the death. Second, since the LOSS team includes survivor volunteers at the scene, an immediate and meaningful bond is established between the newly bereaved individuals and the para-professional surveyor team members. This bond allows for the start of a conversation between the bereaved and the crisis team members about grief and the potential for hope after suicide. Third, the LOSS team has a strong relationship with other first responders, such as law enforcement, emergency services, fire departments, funeral home representatives, and more. This relationship allows the newly bereaved to have a larger variety of choices in regards to coping with a suicide compared to other survivors who might not have access to this program. This model of postvention provides referrals for additional support to all survivors and individuals at the scene of the suicide The model of the LOSS Program has changed the scene of the suicide to a more "concerned and caring environment" for all individuals and survivors.

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Later Jin (Five Dynasties)

Jin, known as the Later Jìn (, 936–947) or the Shi Jin (石晉) in historiography, was an imperial dynasty of China and the third of the Five Dynasties during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period. It was founded by Shi Jingtang (Emperor Gaozu) with aid from the Liao dynasty, which assumed suzerainty over the Later Jin. After Later Jin's second ruler, Shi Chonggui (Emperor Chu), fell out with the Liao dynasty, the Liao invaded in 946 and in 947, annihilated the Later Jin and annexed its former territories.

Founding the Later Jin
The first sinicized Shatuo state, Later Tang, was founded in 923 by Li Cunxu, son of the Shatuo chieftain Li Keyong. It extended Shatuo domains from their base in Shanxi to most of North China, and into Sichuan.

After Li Cunxu's death, his adopted son, Li Siyuan became emperor. However, the Shatuo relationship with the Khitans, which was vital to their rise to power, had soured. Shi Jingtang, the son-in-law of Li Cunxu, rebelled against him, and with the help of the Khitan, declared himself emperor of the Later Jin in 936.

The Later Jin founder Shi Jingtang claimed patrilineal Han Chinese ancestry. Noting that Shi 石 is a typical Chinese surname borne by Sogdians, Barenghi (2014) traces Shi Jingtang's origin to the Anqing Shi (安慶石). Anqing was one of the three Shatuo tribes, besides Chuyue (處月) and formerly Türgesh-associated Suoge (娑葛).

In the Later Jin, there were Dukedoms for the offspring of the royal families of the Zhou dynasty, Sui dynasty, and Tang dynasty. This practice was referred to as the two crownings and the three respects (二王三恪).

The Tang Imperial Longxi Li lineage (隴西李氏) also included sub-lineages like the Guzang Li (姑臧李). Li Zhuanmei (李專美) descended from the Guzang Li and served the Later Jin.

Territory
The Later Jin held essentially the same territories as the Later Tang, except for Sichuan, which had been lost by the Later Tang in its waning years and had become independent as Later Shu.

The other major exception was a region known as the Sixteen Prefectures. By this time in history, the Khitan had formed the Khitan Empire out of their steppe base. They had also become a major power broker in North China. They forced the Later Jin to cede the strategic Sixteen Prefectures to the Khitan. Consisting of a region about 70 to 100 miles wide and including modern-day Beijing and points westward, it was considered a highly strategic region, and gave the Khitan even more influence in North China.

Relations with the Liao dynasty
The Later Jin had often been described as a puppet of the emerging Khitan-led Liao dynasty. The help of their powerful northern neighbors was vital in the establishment of the Later Jin. The cession of the Sixteen Prefectures led to their derision as being the servants of the Liao dynasty.

After the death of the dynastic founder Shi Jingtang, his nephew, adopted son and successor Shi Chonggui defied the Liao, resulting in the latter invading in 946 and 947, eventually leading to the destruction of the Later Jin.

After the Liao conquest of the Later Jin, the former took the dynastic element of water, which followed from the Later Jin's dynastic element of metal, according to the Chinese theory of the Five Elements. It was also following the conquest of the Later Jin that the Liao dynasty was officially renamed "Great Liao".

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Igra

Igra (Игра; Эгра, Egra) is a rural locality (a settlement) and the administrative center of Igrinsky District of the Udmurt Republic, Russia, located 98 km north of Izhevsk at the European route E22, which changes there from M7 to the main Siberian route P242. Population:

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The title should be Moulding
"Moulding" is the industry standard and this page should list it as such. https://www.vanmillwork.com/moulding-or-molding/ https://wmmpa.com/ 98.221.152.41 (talk) 15:03, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

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1818 in architecture

The year 1818 in architecture involved some significant events.

Events

 * Church Building Act in the United Kingdom makes available £1 million for the construction of new Anglican "Commissioners' churches" to serve the expanding urban population.

Buildings

 * Hazuri Bagh Baradari, Lahore, Punjab, built.
 * Chapel of St John the Evangelist, Edinburgh, Scotland, designed by William Burn, dedicated.
 * Church of Saint Peter, Wilmington, Delaware, designed by Pierre Bauduy, dedicated
 * Trinity House of Leith, Scotland, designed by Thomas Brown, completed.
 * The Holme in Regent's Park, London, built by Decimus Burton as a house for his father James Burton.
 * "Ware's Folly" in Augusta, Georgia, United States, completed as a house for Nicholas Ware at enormous cost.
 * First National Theatre Munich, Bavaria, designed by Karl von Fischer, opened.
 * The Royal Coburg Theatre, London, opened.
 * The Savannah Theatre, Savannah, Georgia, United States, designed by William Jay, opened.
 * Teatro Nuovo, Pesaro, Papal States of Italy, opened as an opera house.
 * Whitworth Bridge, Dublin, Ireland, designed by George Knowles, opened.

Awards

 * Grand Prix de Rome, architecture: no first prize awarded.

Births

 * May 17 – William Hay, Scottish architect (died 1888)
 * June 20 – Eugenius Birch, English civil engineer specialising in seaside pleasure piers (died 1884)
 * July 22 – Thomas Stevenson, Scottish civil engineer specialising in lighthouses (died 1887)
 * November 11 – James Renwick Jr., American architect (died 1895)
 * Thomas Mainwaring Penson, English architect (died 1864)
 * Louis-Daniel Perrier, Swiss architect (died 1903)

Deaths

 * April 25 – Johan Martin Quist, Danish architect (born 1755)
 * May 1 – François-Joseph Bélanger, French neoclassical architect (born 1744)

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Bulavin Rebellion

The Bulavin Rebellion or Astrakhan Revolt (Булавинское восстание; Восстание Булавина, Vosstaniye Bulavina) was a war which took place in the years 1707 and 1708 between the Don Cossacks and the Tsardom of Russia. Kondraty Bulavin, a democratically elected Ataman of the Don Cossacks, led the Cossack rebels. The conflict was triggered by a number of underlying tensions between the Moscow government under Peter I of Russia, the Cossacks, and Russian peasants fleeing from serfdom in Russia to gain freedom in the autonomous Don area. It started with the 1707 assassination of Prince Yury Vladimirovich Dolgorukov, the leader of Imperial army's punitive expedition to the Don area, by Don Cossacks under Bulavin's command. The end of the rebellion came with Bulavin's death in 1708.

Underlying causes
A number of social grievances were prevalent in the peasant population of Russia in the years leading up to the Bulavin Rebellion. Peter the Great's radical reforms designed to "Westernize" old Muscovy in the 18th century were met with widespread discontent. The pious, deeply conservative masses saw his reforms as an affront to their traditional way of life and to their Eastern Orthodox faith. Peter was even equated to the Anti-Christ and assumed to be an impostor posing as the true Tsar. On top of this, Peter's newly formed police state was expanding territorially, and by this expansion was encroaching upon salt resource sites coveted by the Cossacks for preservation of their foods. This dispute over land was in one sense an economic issue, but the Cossacks also regarded this as an intrusion upon their semi-autonomous political state. In general, the entire rural Russian atmosphere was in an agitated state, waiting for a catalyst of some kind.

Immediate catalyst
In response to the constraints and fears of living in Peter's police state, large numbers of serfs absconded, abandoning the major urban areas, especially Moscow and the new capital at St. Petersburg. While some groups emigrated to Poland or Austria, many chose to avoid the border patrols and instead fled to the rural periphery and the river regions already inhabited by the Cossacks. It was Peter's policy to hunt down and arrest absconders and return them to their lords where they could be counted for taxes, a policy which, by this time, had no statute of limitations. In accordance with this policy, Peter deployed a group of bounty hunters under Yuri Dolgorukov to scout the Cossack regions for fugitive peasants. Despite the fact that the Cossacks harbored some resentment towards the peasants (for overpopulating their region and generally competing for local resources), more deplorable to them was the idea of Petrine agents roaming freely through their territory. They not only refused to give up the fugitive peasants, but on 8 October 1707 a small band of local atamans headed by Kondraty Bulavin ambushed and murdered Dolgorukov and his men in the village of Shulgin on the Aidar River, opening the door to violence and beginning the Bulavin Rebellion.

Bulavin

Little is known about Bulavin personally, but he was born into a Cossack family and would have been old enough to remember Stenka Razin and the revolt of the late 17th century. He developed some combat experience fighting the Kuban and Crimean Tatars in his youth. However, he was never a particularly great military commander, and throughout the rebellion that bears his name, he would forever fall short of becoming an undisputed leader. By 1704, he had risen to the status of ataman of Bakhmut, a position he held until 1706. It was during this stint that he orchestrated and participated in the destruction of the salt works on the Severski Donets, an act of retaliation for having been evicted by the government as squatters. This conflict was never entirely resolved and was ultimately absorbed into the greater rebellion as it gained momentum. Bulavin was most likely illiterate, but like his contemporary revolutionaries, he possessed a talent for appealing to the people and inciting them to action.

General details
Bulavin's rally cries were simple: the goal was to move against Moscow and destroy the evil influences on the Tsar. It is important to note that the rebellion was not against the institution of Tsardom but against the figures in power at the time. It was generally believed that Peter was either not who he claimed (i.e. the Antichrist sitting in place of the true Tsar who was hidden away), or that he was indeed the rightful Tsar but was under the control of evil advisers whose destruction would liberate him, and that if given the freedom to act, he would repudiate all of his wicked reforms.

The rebellion suffered from a number of weaknesses. For one, despite all of his rallying, Bulavin never offered a pretender to the throne or suggested a just tsar to replace Peter. This blunder would condemn the rebellion's end goals to ambiguity and would let slip an immeasurable amount of support he might have mustered. Second, Bulavin did not coordinate his efforts with any other pre-existing Muscovite enemies, so despite being heavily engaged in war with Sweden, the military apparatus under Peter was not as divided as it could have been and found the rebellion to be more of a nuisance than a major conflict. By means of its vastly superior size and efficiency, the regular army was ultimately capable of stamping out the rebellion at all levels. In the end, angered by devastating reversals and Bulavin's tiring claims, factions of his own Cossack followers turned against him. He was found dead on 7 July 1708, having been shot in the head. It is not known whether the wound was self-inflicted or an act of treachery. Following Bulavin's death, the rebellion petered out, with pockets of resistance persisting through 1709, but for all intents and purposes, the conflict was over.

Political and social aftermath
As mentioned, the Bulavin Rebellion bore striking similarities to Razin's Revolt a generation earlier. Both were Cossack rebellions in part, aimed against an imposing governmental institution and driven by animosity for the miserable state of peasant life. They effectively set the stage for the Pugachev Uprising under Catherine the Great.

In response to the uprising, Peter tightened his grip on the Cossack states, causing some 2000 under Ignat Nekrasov to flee to the protection of the Crimean Khanate. Descendants of these Nekrasovites would relocate to Anatolia during the Pugachev Uprising and settle near Constantinople, where their traditional culture would continue to the present day.

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Raging Stallion Studios

Raging Stallion Studios is an independent major adult film studio based in San Francisco. It is one of the world's largest producers of gay pornography. It was founded by Chris Ward and J. D. Slater; Michael Brandon later became a co-owner.

In 2005, Raging Stallion released 22 films. In 2009, Raging Stallion merged with AEBN/NakedSword.com. AEBN then purchased Falcon Studios in 2010.

RSS has taken inspiration from pop culture for some of its movies.

In 2018, it started producing bareback movies. Questions have been raised about the risks for the health of the actors and the messaging of showing bareback sex.

Awards

 * 2010 XBIZ Award – Gay Movie of the Year (Focus/Refocus)
 * 2011 XBIZ Award – Gay Movie of the Year (Brutal)

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Skull Snaps

Skull Snaps was an enigmatic funk group active between 1963 and 1973. The group is known for their mysterious origins and the anonymity of their members, with the identities of their members being unknown for most of their career and long afterward. Until 1970 they were known as The Diplomats, and released a number of singles with some success. Renamed Skull Snaps, they released an eponymous album on the small GSF label in 1973 before suddenly disappearing.

Ten12 Records re-united all the original members of Skull Snaps (Erv Littleton Waters, Sam O. Culley, and George Bragg) in 2005 in tandem with the band's first official release, "Snapped"/"I'm Your Pimp", since its 1975 single.

Under the direction of Skull Snaps frontman Erv Waters, Ten12 Records planned to release the entire Skull Snaps catalog on CD and DVD, with recordings from the original album plus five bonus tracks: "Al's Razor Blade", "Ain't That Lovin' You", "On Top of It", "Soul Makossa", and "She's the One".

Skull Snaps album
The Skull Snaps album contains drum breaks that have been sampled numerous times on various hip hop records. In 1989, hip-hop artist Stezo first sampled the opening drums from their song, "It's a New Day" on his work titled, "It's My Turn".

Since then, the now-familiar opening drum pattern of "It's a New Day" can be heard on songs by well-known acts such as Ol' Dirty Bastard, Das EFX, DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince, Eric B. & Rakim, Digable Planets, DJ Shadow, Rob Dougan, Stabbing Westward, the Prodigy, Panjabi MC, Suprême NTM, Linkin Park and others, many of whom sampled the drum pattern directly from the Stezo track, as he let the sample run "naked".

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kazennye

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Carbonite | Talk 12:23, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Kazennye

 * Del a foreign dicdef, false and misleading too. This Russian word has adequate translations into English. mikka (t) 06:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Delete http://www.google.com/search?q=Kazennye&hl=en&lr=lang_en&c2coff=1&as_qdr=all&start=30&sa=N gives 39 references, approx 20 real English (not transliterated Russian). It looks like some historians thinks it is an English term abakharev 06:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * So what? The term in all cases has a perfectly adequate translation, and it is quite normal in academic texts to accompany some terms with rendering in native language. mikka (t) 06:36, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * OK, You both have made me change my mind. abakharev 10:35, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Original creation comment says definition of 'kazennye' according to James Cracraft. That suggests it's not going to become an article.   Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  06:40, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. KNewman 08:01, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I would much rather prefer to see this article expanded re-written and moved to a better title (Government-owned lands in Imperial Russia, maybe?), but since it is unlikely that it is going to happen, and since the article in its present form is unacceptable, delete it is.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 12:40, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per referrer. --Ghirlandajo 14:25, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above.--Gaff 07:04, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Dude
That article never says "imprinting" in citation 3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.174.140.216 (talk) 01:56, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Prader-Willi and Angelman syndromes
This page also has some relevant and useful information on Prader-Willi and Angelman syndromes. genetics play an important role also

Request to expand the explanation of the word "imprint"
As it stands, this article seems to miss explaining the central topic: what the term "imprint" actually refers to.

On a page related to Ref 1, http://geneimprint.com/site/what-is-imprinting there's a discussion of why this phenomenon is called "imprinting". Apparently "imprinting" refers to marks added (printed) to a gene in either egg or sperm which disable this gene. The idea that marks are added in an egg to particular genes, and in a sperm to other genes, goes a long way to explaining the rest of the story.

This nugget of explanation ties everything else together, it seems to me. I hope someone savvier than me could incorporate this into the article. Gwideman (talk) 10:45, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Revamp of Article - Fair Warning
Hello, all. I intend on reviewing and editing this article in the near future. I'm placing this advance notice to allow anyone interested in collaborating to say so, and also to collect comments on what should be improved. I've already noted that the text is not accessible to the wide audience, and will try to edit it as to be more user-friendly. Further comments and advice would be much appreciated. Shiningheart (talk) 20:24, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

PLease read the following paragraph from the genomic imprinting article. Could some one either correct or delete the line from the NOEY2 paragraph:

Therefore, if a person inherits both chromosomes from the mother, the gene will not be expressed and the individual is put at a greater risk for breast and ovarian cancer

How does someone inherit both chromosomes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shannonpack (talk • contribs) 13:17, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, suggest that a small paragraph be included on when and where imprinting takes place, esp for humans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.69.203.1 (talk) 05:27, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Not an article
In trying to make sense of this encyclopedia "article," I find that it consists of a collection of aphorisms lifted from various sources and loosely pasted together. There is no overarching sense being made, such that a reader can become familiar with the subject by reading the article. It is the "too many cooks" syndrome, with each author dropping a small contribution into the pot, and then leaving. If Wikipedia is to be a useful encyclopedia, its articles should have the capacity to educate a person who is not already grounded in the subject. I assume that each sentence in the article is true on its own; however, small bits of truth do not magically combine to form a useful article on their own.

Without some effort being made to organize this mess, it is pretty useless. Volunteers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.20.8.226 (talk) 23:45, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree. Any article that includes a heading "Overveiw" is usually a mess, and this one is no exception. A good beginning would be to create a readable lead section. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 19:51, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Definition of Genomic Imprinting
Recently I've some minor editing dispute with user: with the definition of imprinting. It is clearly stated in the article cited that:

"Genomic imprinting is a remarkable epigenetically regulated process that causes genes to be expressed in a parental-origin-specific manner".

I'm not a native level English speakers but it seems to me that the definition written in the article by using preposition such as "by which" raising some problems. Although in this context it might be correct, it will raise confusion especially for non-native speakers. Is it possible rephrase the definition in more sensible manner without reducing the meaning? I would suggest just to follow the cited article cited because it is simpler and I'm open to any suggestion.

I also had added an explanation that this terms is often used interchangeably with parent-specific-gene expression. Adeuss (talk) 15:26, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure why you see the need to change a sentence structure that makes perfect sense and has existed in this form for years, and since you are the one proposing the change, it should be you that discusses the issue and seeks consensus instead of reverting. But alas I cannot be bothered to argue. As for your assertion that imprinting and parent specific expression are interchangeable terms, this is simply not true. The terminology is 'genomic imprinting' or simply imprinting/imprinted, what this process achieves is parent specific expression of genes. 2A00:23C4:6E08:7000:800A:4EC8:5319:4A3A (talk) 19:43, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

 * Hi, thanks for the kind suggestion. I apologized to be so keen. But I have my reason.
 * I agreed with you that it should not be interchangeably, thanks for the correction.
 * The reason why I'm so keen is, as you can see in one journal that I cited, the line between this two terminology started to blur.
 * Especially for non-native English speaker, there are a lot of author that consider this two different terminology as a same thing.

 * For example:
 * http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1110863014000615
 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9673853
 * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21683468

 * And even in this (they have two different version of the definition in the abstract)
 * http://genesdev.cshlp.org/content/29/24/2517.full

 * I guess this is rooted from:
 * Hall 1997: "Genomic imprinting is the differential expression of genetic material depending on whether it was inherited from the male or from the female parent."
 * or Wilkins & Haig 2003 because they put this sentences "Parent-specific gene expression (genomic imprinting)...."

 * That is why I want to propose to rephrase the definition in a straight manner. I'm satisfied with the definition now as what it is. Thank you very much for helping me out with the editing. Adeuss (talk) 08:30, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Foça

Foça is a municipality and district of İzmir Province, Turkey. Its area is 251 km2, and its population is 34,946 (2022). The town of Foça is situated at about 69 km northwest of İzmir's city center on the Aegean coast. The district has a settlement and former municipality named Yenifoça (literally "New Foça"), also along the shore and at a distance of 20 km from Foça proper. For this reason, Foça itself is locally often called as Eskifoça ("Old Foça") in daily parlance. The town is built on the site of the ancient Greek city of Phocaea (Φώκαια).

History
The town of Phocaea (Φώκαια) was founded by ancient Greeks. Phocaea, named after the seals living in nearby islands, was founded by the Aeolian Greeks in the 11th century BC. Ionian Greek settlement in Phocaea, which was one of the most important settlements of Ionia at that time, started in the 9th century BC. Phocaeans, known as master sailors in history, also established many colonies in the Aegean, Mediterranean and Black Sea with their engineering development and success. Some of the important colonies that they had established in history are: Massalia, modern Marseille; Amisos in the Black Sea (now Samsun); Lampsakos in the Dardanelles (now Lapseki); Methymna (now Molyvos) on Lesbos; and Elea, now Velia (Italy); Alalia (Corsica).

In addition, Phocaeans were known as ones of the first in Ionia to mint "electron" coins using natural gold-silver mixture. Of course, this civilized progress affected many civilizations of that time and attracted them to Anatolia.

Phocaea was taken over by the Genoese in 1275 as a fief from the Byzantine emperor, and was an active Port during the Middle Ages, principally due to the region's rich alum reserves. The alum mines of Phocaea were conceded earlier by the Byzantines in 1267 to the Genoese brothers Benedetto and Manuele Zaccaria, who founded the Lordship of Phocaea. The Genoese controlled the city even during the Ottoman era due to the lease they had gained from the Byzantines in 1275. Another important Byzantine concession to the Genoese through dowry was the nearby island of Lesbos, given to the Gattilusio family as a result of the marriage between Francesco I Gattilusio and Maria Palaiologina, sister of Byzantine emperor John V Palaiologos) in 1355. The possessions of the Gattilusio family eventually grew to include, among others, the islands of Imbros, Samothrace, Lemnos and Thasos, and the city of Aenos (modern Enez in Turkey.) From this position, they were heavily involved in the mining and marketing of alum, useful in textile production and a profitable trade controlled by the Genoese.

From 1867 until 1922, Foça was part of the Aidin Vilayet of the Ottoman Empire. The city was mostly populated by Greeks until the Massacre of Phocaea carried out by the Turks during the Greek genocide. As a result, a large portion of the historic city was destroyed, and all the old churches were destroyed and mosques were built on top of them and the town subsequently became known as Foça. People who belonged to the local networks were radically different in their perception of the Greeks compared to the muhacirs who were alien to the local networks. The local communities favored the Greeks. Also, when the Greeks left, due to the massacre, their houses were occupied by muhacirs (forced Muslim migrants). Some of these Greeks returned later (1919) to their houses, when the Greek army arrived at the city. The muhacirs that lived there ran away when the Greeks returned. When the Greek army defeated (1922), according to a testimony of a muhacir, the Greeks who tried to escape with boats or other things "were stopped and the punishments they deserved were delivered to them in and around the harbor of Eski Foça". Eski Foça stretches along two bays; a larger one named Büyükdeniz ("Greater Sea") and a smaller cove within that large one, named Küçükdeniz ("Smaller Sea"), where the medieval Foça Castle is also located.

Many parts of the district are under strict environmental protection, due to the value of the flora and the fauna, and the beauty of the small bays and coves, especially between Foça and Yenifoça. Therefore, a judicious way to get to know the district would be by boat tours regularly organized in partance from the town center. Because of the protective measures, new constructions are not permitted in many parts of the district and Foça is set to preserve its unique characteristic as composed principally of old houses.

The construction project for a 300-boat capacity marina in Foça is recently tendered and started, upon the completion of which the town is expected to open to more active international tourism.

Foça is the site of one of three marine protected areas established in Turkey for the preservation of the Mediterranean monk seal, a heavily endangered species of sea mammals.

The Turkish Navy maintains at Foça the home base of its two special operations units, Su Altı Savunma (SAS) and Su Altı Taarruz (SAT).

Composition
There are 16 neighbourhoods in Foça District:

 * Atatürk
 * Cumhuriyet
 * Fatih
 * Fevziçakmak
 * Fevzipaşa
 * Hacıveli
 * Ilıpınar
 * İsmetpaşa
 * Kazım Dirik
 * Kemal Atatürk
 * Kocamehmetler
 * Kozbeyli
 * Mareşal Fevzi Çakmak
 * Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
 * Yenibağarası
 * Yeniköy
 * Markköy

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RPE

RPE is a three letter acronym, which can refer to:
 * Radiation protection expert
 * Rapid palatal expander, an orthodontic device widen the palate
 * Rating of perceived exertion, a scale for assessing perceived exertion during exercise
 * IBM Rational Publishing Engine, a document generation solution
 * Red Pine Elementary in Eagan, Minnesota, USA
 * Respiratory protective equipment
 * Retinal pigment epithelium — layer of the retina
 * Revenue Per Employee, a ratio used to compare business efficiency
 * Ribulose-phosphate epimerase, human gene for a protein that reversibly converts ribulose to xyulose
 * Rocket Propulsion Establishment, UK-based military research site at RAF Westcott
 * Russet Potato Exchange in Bancroft, Wisconsin, USA
 * Radical Performance Engines a UK company that builds Race car and tuned Hayabusa Motorcycle Engines

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Michael Ferrante

Michael Ferrante (born 28 April 1981) is an Australian former footballer. He is currently the senior men's head coach of Essendon Royals SC.

Biography
He attended St. Joseph's College Melbourne from years 1992–1997 being a star week in week out for his school side. He came through the ranks at the Australian Institute of Sport and from there he moved on to the youth team at West Ham United. He captained the team in one of the games of the 9–0 aggregate FA Youth Cup Final triumph over Coventry in 1999. The team included Joe Cole, Michael Carrick who went on to become established Premiership and England players plus fellow Australian and current Australian international Richard Garcia.

He had a spell in Italy with Comprensorio Stabia and Serie C side Benevento Calcio before returning to Australia to join Fawkner Blues in 2004. He joined Melbourne's inaugural A-League squad for season 2005–06 and featured in all of Melbourne Victory league games. Following the signings of Fred and Grant Brebner he was frozen out of the squad for the second season and struggled to make appearances. He made 21 appearances for Melbourne in 2005–06, scoring one goal, and five appearances in 2006–07.

After Victory released him from his contract by mutual consent in February 2007, new A-League team Wellington Phoenix signed Ferrante on a two-year deal for the start of the A-League 2007-08 season.

In 2010, he returned home to Melbourne, signing for local club Richmond Eagles mid-season. On 12 July 2012 he announced that a major back injury would prevent him participating in the VPL for the remainder of the 2012. By mutual consent his contract was terminated and Richmond released him to sign with Pascoe Vale who sit top of League State 1 and who are managed by his brother Vitale.

A-League career statistics

 * Correct as of 24 February 2010

Honours

 * Melbourne Victory
 * A-League Championship: 2006–07
 * A-League Premiership: 2006–07

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Amington

Amington is a area of Tamworth in Staffordshire, England. Formerly a distinct village, it is now part of the Tamworth borough, with no gap between it and the neighbouring wards of Bolehall, Glascote, Glascote Heath and Stonydelph.

History
Amington and Stonydelph formerly formed one "township" and were part of the ancient parish of Tamworth. Amington, now in Staffordshire, was previously part of the county of Warwickshire; the county boundary between Staffordshire and Warwickshire formerly running along Tamworth high street. The village became part of Tamworth Rural District in 1932, thus becoming part of the administrative county of Staffordshire. Amington became a parish on 1 April 1935 being formed from "Amington and Stonydelph". On 1 April 1965 the parish was abolished and merged with Tamworth. In 1961 the parish had a population of 1811.

The village's Parish Church, St. Editha's, is a chapel-of-ease, part of Tamworth Parish. However, as formerly in Warwickshire, Amington church falls under the Diocese of Birmingham, whereas its mother church in Tamworth, also dedicated to St. Editha, is part of the Diocese of Lichfield.

Amington is the site of Amington Hall. On the eve of the English Civil War there was some opposition to the paying of poor rate levies from the local gentry, in particular Cecil Warburton, the occupant of the Hall. The justices at the quarter sessions for Easter, 1642 heard that Cecil Warburton of Hall End, Amington, “did lock up the overseer of the poor (George Payne)…and drew his sword upon him there in a very outrageous manner”.

Transport
Amington is near the Coventry Canal, the River Anker, and also the Trent Valley Line of the West Coast Main Line, all of which pass east/west just to the north of the village.

Amenities
In the village there is one convenience store, a Tesco Express. There is also a post office and a fish and chip shop.

Amington has four pubs: The Gate Inn, The Old Liberal, The Amington Inn and The Winning Post.

In the 1990s two developers built a 1000-home estate in the village which is now known as Amington Fields. In 2006, Antler Homes built a 17-house estate named Ashby Grange.

In 2016 work began on the development of over 1100 new homes on the site of the former Tamworth Municipal Golf Course.

Landau Forte Academy, Amington, one of the high schools in Tamworth, is situated in Amington. The school reached national headlines in 2016 when one of the pupils was recorded being assaulted.

Local Culture
Amington Band are a traditional British brass band based in their own band room. They have been associated with the village since the 1910s

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Back Door Man

"Back Door Man" is a blues song written by American musician Willie Dixon and recorded by Howlin' Wolf in 1960. The lyrics draw on a Southern U.S. cultural term for an extramarital affair. The song is one of several Dixon-Wolf songs that became popular among rock musicians, including the Doors who recorded it for their 1967 self-titled debut album.

Lyrics
In Southern culture, the phrase "back-door man" refers to a man having an affair with a married woman, using the back door as an exit before the husband comes home. Dixon's lyrics include:

The philandering "back-door man" is a theme of several blues songs, including those by Charley Patton, Lightnin' Hopkins, Blind Willie McTell and Sara Martin: "every sensible woman got a back-door man", Martin sang in "Strange Loving Blues" (1925).

Recording and releases
"Back Door Man" was recorded in Chicago in June 1960. Accompanying Howlin' Wolf on vocals are Otis Spann on piano, Hubert Sumlin on guitar, Willie Dixon on double bass, and Fred Below on drums. Both Freddie King and Freddy Robinson have been suggested as the second guitarist. The song features a modal arrangement, where it "hangs on one chord, hinging on an infectious and insistent riff [which] is similar to his own one-chord songs like 'I Asked for Water (She Gave Me Gasoline)' and 'Spoonful'", according to AllMusic reviewer Bill Janovitz.

Chess Records issued the song as the B-side to "Wang Dang Doodle" and included it on his second compilation album Howlin' Wolf (1962). Wolf later re-recorded the song for Chess' 1969 attempt to reach the rock audience, The Howlin' Wolf Album.

The Doors version
The Doors recorded "Back Door Man" for their 1967 self-titled debut album. Doors' guitarist Robby Krieger introduced the other members of the group to a blues rock adaptation of the song recorded by John Hammond Jr. for his 1964 album Big City Blues. The Doors' version also incorporates elements of psychedelic blues and hard rock. Drummer John Densmore described it as a song that is "deeply sexual and got everyone moving."

Unlike Howlin' Wolf's one-chord arrangement, the Doors utilize a different approach. Critic Bill Janovitz described it as a "thumping rhythmic approach. They vary the chords in a 12-bar blues arrangement, which serves as a great tension-and-release pattern". Jim Morrison also supplied some of his own lyrics and only used two of Dixon's verses from Howlin' Wolf's original.

Morrison provides the vocal, backed by Ray Manzarek on keyboards and piano, Krieger on guitar, and Densmore on drums. Krieger asserts that he played bass guitar for the recording. A live recording of the song appears as a part of a medley, on the Doors' live album Absolutely Live (1970).

Personnel

 * Jim Morrison – vocals
 * Ray Manzarek – Vox Continental, piano
 * Robby Krieger – lead and rhythm guitar, bass
 * John Densmore – drums

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Talk:Normans in Ireland

Hiberno-Normans?
This is more like it, although it should be plural: Hiberno-Normans. The section covering the Normans in Ireland should by right be under this heading rather than 'Anglo-Normans'. There are many, many reasons why this should be the case. In the first place, most Normans came from Wales, not England and thus the epithet 'Cambro-Normans' is used to describe them by leading late medievalists such as Seán Duffy. Furthermore, contrary to common belief the term 'Old English' only came into use to describe them in 1580- i.e. over four centuries after the first Normans arrived in Ireland. In addition, if they were Anglo-Normans four centuries after arriving in Ireland (from Wales!) can we hear more about the "Norman-English" 400 years after 1066? It is ahistorical in the extreme to deny the very Hiberno-Norman cultural and political world they developed in these centuries and hide it under the simplistic misnomer, "Anglo-Normans". To simplify my argument somewhat: while not all Normans, or even a majority of them, in Ireland were of English/Anglo origin, all those of Norman descent in Ireland were Hiberno-Normans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.1.172.163 (talk • contribs)

 * It would be well worth while adding that to the article, please - I'm sure you would prefer to copyedit it yourself. Provide you can cite the references, you should certainly look at correcting any existing use of Anglo-norman in existing category:History of Ireland articles.
 * (Wiki convention is always to use the singular, and to form the plural like this Hiberno-Normans, which produces "Hiberno-Normans"). --Red King 13:51, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Content from another page
I contributed all the following to Irish nobility, which I then renamed to Gaelic and Hiberno-Norman nobility of Ireland to make a concession to a difficult editor, but he remains confused by the Peerage of Ireland and so the latest title is now Gaelic nobility of Ireland. I'm not happy with it and think some Hiberno-Norman families should be included there. In fact the original title Irish nobility was best. Oh well.

Norman (Old English)
The Gaelic Irish referred to the Normans using the same terms they did for the earlier Norse, namely Dubgaill and Finngaill. Also, unlike the later and true English, the Normans first entered the nation invited, famously by Dermot MacMurrough, King of Leinster. A number of these peerages were created after 1541, but the families were already present and landed, in the more prominent cases independent and in others subject to Gaelic or other Norman lords.
 * FitzGerald dynasty - headed by the Duke of Leinster, this variously described Hiberno-Norman or Cambro-Norman dynasty were at one time one of the very most powerful in Ireland. Both the Kildare and Desmond branches intermarried and were politically involved with the Gaelic dynasties to a notable degree. The hereditary Knight of Kerry and Knight of Glin of the Desmond branch were apparently created in Ireland by the Earls of Desmond, now extinct, acting as Earls palatine.
 * Duke of Leinster
 * Marquess of Lansdowne - of the same family as the FitzGeralds, the FitzMaurices, when Barons Kerry, extensively intermarried with the O'Briens and MacCarthys
 * Butler dynasty - the Butlers were also great Earls palatine and the chief rivals of the FitzGeralds. Although often leaning more English in culture, they also intermarried with the Gaelic dynasties, in fact to a greater degree than the FitzGeralds, with some Butlers becoming very Gaelicized.The Book of the White Earl was created under the patronage of James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond.
 * Earl of Carrick
 * Viscount Mountgarret - descendants of Donal Reagh MacMorrough Kavanagh, King of Leinster, and Hugh O'Neill, last recognized High King of Ireland. An ancestor of the Viscounts Mountgarret was Edmund MacRichard Butler, who adopted the Gaelic title of The MacRichard of Ossory.
 * Baron Dunboyne
 * De Burgh dynasty - the descendants of William de Burgh became famously Gaelicized, with some acquiringsovereignty and becoming de facto petty kings in their territories. Their remote location in Connacht allowed them to become the only Norman family to achieve this.
 * Earl of Mayo
 * Nugent family
 * Earl of Westmeath
 * Plunkett family
 * (Earl of Fingall) - to 1984
 * Baron of Dunsany
 * Baron Louth
 * Dillon family
 * Viscount Dillon
 * Preston family
 * Viscount Gormanston

Dormant titles

 * Butler dynasty
 * Earl of Ormond
 * De Birmingham family
 * Baron Athenry

Devine and Bennett family names

 * Should the above two names be considered "Hiberno-Norman"? The origin of Devine is disputed between a Gaelic origin and an origin in old French: frankly the later etymology seems a lot more sensible, if Occam's Razor has any place in this field. Bennett is also a common family name amongst people from Ireland and seems to be clearly of Norman origin. --Luftschiffritter5 1 (talk) 16:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Culkin/Calkin/Caulkin and Colgan family name
Based on own personal genealogic research I had to come to the conclusion that the family name Culkin/Calkin/Caulkin and even the more Irish style Colgan cannot be really Irish. Unfortunately there seem to be many genealogical quacks with commercial ties that are making up Irish origins for mostly American people, who are mostly unfamiliar with accessing European genealogical records. First of all at the end of the 19th century the occurence of family names had been registered all over Great-Britain and Ireland. Culkin/Calkin/Caulkin only appeared significantly in England, which makes sense because of the Germanic dimunitive ending. In Ireland less than a hundred people were found with the more Irish style family name Colgan, mostly in Dublin, King's and Antrim. If Culkin/Calkin/Caulkin and Colgan had been really Irish, then this family name should have also occurred in Scotland in the same or a similar variant, which does not seem to be the case. Within the historic Lotharingia variations of family names having the dimunitive ending -ken/-gen, which is cognate to -kin/-gan, used to be rather common. My personal family name Keultjes is a formation of the original Koelken/Koelgen. This family name occurred originally along and in between both the river Rhine and the river Meuse. There happens to be a French version of this name, Culquin. According to my personal genealogic research "we" used to be ministeriales and laets serving bishops and the like, amongst others the Prince Bishop of Liège. With the Norman invasion also Lotharingian warriors and clerics arrived in Great-Britain and Ireland. For instance Thomas of Bayeux, archbishop of York, was educated at Liège. So it makes absolutely perfect sense these Lotharingian ministeriales and laets entered the British Isles just as well.
 * PS1 There are clear indications these people were Christians of Jewish origin from Cologne, because these family names are cognate to Rhineland Jewish women's names.
 * PS2 Ministeriales as well as laets were contrary to the common scolarly oppinion freeborn persons, who did not have a "patrimonium".Amand Keultjes (talk) 19:36, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

High Kings et al
Picking up on a talk between DD and myself on my talk page ... Ruaidrí Ua Conchobair was the last recognised High King of Ireland. O'Neill had his ambitions, but even his supporters (such as the compilers of the Annals of the Four Masters) stress his English title. The time of the High Kings was long gone by his time, and well it was known. For further data, see From Kings to Warlords by Katherine Simms. No, it would be incorrect to accord King of Ireland to O'Neill, though quite right to call him King of Tir Eoghan.

As regards references, the succession lists and genealogies in A New History of Ireland, volume ix, are regarded as authoritive by todays historians. We're somewhat at our own discretion at more minor dynasties and kings. It troubles me that Fitz Maurice does not seem to use ANHI IX in his references, as I would regard IX as a primary tool of any Irish historian. Honestly, its that good. Fergananim (talk) 02:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I don't see what this has to do with this article. DinDraithou (talk) 03:06, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Common name?
Hello all. I discovered this article after attempting to link "Norman Irish" in another article and discovering that it was a redlink (now fixed).

Anyway, judging by the historical literature, Norman Irish may be the more common name. See, e.g. this search of Google Books: hiberno-Norman OR "norman irish" -wikipedia Grant |  Talk  07:01, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

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Naismith, Montana

Naismith is an unincorporated community in Toole County, Montana, United States, located approximately 90 mi north of Great Falls.

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Many believe that Ranil’s RAW connections play a significant weight in his political carrier
Please comply with the Wikipedia guidelines of biographies. The neutrality of an article is expected. Many believe that Ranil’s RAW connections play a significant weight in his political carrier. Therefore, it must be included in his biography. Please note that Wikipedia is not tool for political propaganda. Both sides should be mentioned; else this article would not be recognized with proper recognition. I noticed a lot of flagged comments. I have substantiated Ranil Wickramasinge’s allegations of RAW involvement by several CONCRETE sources. Please include this in the biography of Ranil Wickramasinghe. Furthermore, this will be quarried in Google, alongside the existing Ranil’s biography.

Alleged involvement between Mr. Wickremasinghe and Indian spy's role in former president Rajapaksa’s defeat
Reuters and other news agencies reports that Sri Lanka expelled the Colombo station chief of India's spy agency in the run-up to this month's (Jan 2015) presidential election, political and intelligence sources said, accusing him of helping the opposition oust President Mahinda Rajapaksa.

According to Reuters and Aljazeera, the agent was accused of playing a role in convincing the main leader of the opposition and former Prime Minister Ranil Wickremasinghe not to contest against Rajapaksa in the election and stand aside for someone who could be sure of winning, said the officer and a Sri Lankan lawmaker  who also maintains close contacts with India.

"They actively were involved, talking to Ranil, getting those things organised, talking to Chandrika," the lawmaker told Reuters. Wickremasinghe government, met "two or three times" with the man identified as the agent in the months before the vote, as well as with the Indian high commissioner, or ambassador, the prime minister's spokesman said.

However, Mr. Wickremasinghe has not accepted this allegation claiming he had no knowledge of RAW intelligence officer. Mr. Wickremasinghe claims that he had thought this person was a diplomat at the Indian High Commission Also, An Indian foreign ministry spokesman denied any expulsion and said that transfers were routine decisions.

India has often  been involved in the internal politics of Sri Lanka- it sent troops there in 1987 in a botched effort to broker peace between the government and Tamil Tiger rebels. RAW support for the Tamil separatist group, Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam in Sri Lanka, that brought India’s RAW intelligence agency much criticism from human rights organizations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prabathsemail (talk • contribs)

 * It's fair to include the allegations that RAW persuaded Ranil not to contest the election and his rebuttal. But the rest of content doesn't belong here - it's just pandering to Sinhala-Buddhist paranoia about India.-- obi2canibe talk contr 14:25, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Not supporting: There is certain source that allegedly referring an interview given by Former Defence Secretary Gotabaya Rajapaksa that suggesting Ranil Wickremesinghe was directly involved in talks with RAW which the Indian Government repeatedly denied the claims made by Rajapaksa factor in UPFA, Few days after allegation by Rajapaksa factor the Foreign Affairs of Sri Lankan Government too did deny the allegation made by Rajapaksa factor, How can this involvement be true? Even that diplomatic was withdrawn from Embassy of India on request of Sri Lankan Government, both sides did deny the allegations on aiding the then opposition candidate Maithripala Sirisena. --Prince Sulaiman Talk to me 11:11, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

 * How is it different from saying that Rajapaksa tried to stage a coup? Both are allegations. Both haven't resulted any legal action. Both have been denied by those allegedly involved.-- obi2canibe talk contr 13:59, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Please see the date of edit, I had edited it very earlier before these allegations were eventually denied, But actually AG did start an investigation (about 2 days after his term ended) after defeat of Rajapaksa's regime, So in my opinion both are SAME allegation including "RAW" involvement in this election. If you desire to delete the alleged involvement of Rajapaksa, you're free to do that and I'm not interested in blocking anyone from editing long as the source is reliable, even if its allegation its fine. The one critical issue of this case is that this editor is attempting to do this after 8 months, So I don't think it's worth of adding all these old stories back. Mostly, important is the edits should be done in a timed manner so other editors can even deny the allegations by adding the contents from another reliable source like what happened in Rajapaksa's Wikipedia. I hope this doesn't involve conflict of interest. --Prince Sulaiman Talk to me 14:27, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

 * As you introduced the alleged coup content on the Mahinda Rajapaksa article in the first instance, please remove it yourself. Then we are treating MR and RW equally.-- obi2canibe talk contr 15:42, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

NPOV dispute, Economic policies
Several statements, particularly under the economic policies section, have already been flagged as "citation needed" - these reflect political sloganeering and use unprofessional language which could be seen as libelous against the article's subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mithra26 (talk • contribs) 07:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

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'''THIS ARTICLE IS RIDICOLOUSLY BIASED AND CLEARLY WRITTEN BY A STAFFER. IT NEEDS AN URGENT REWRITE. --123.243.11.211 (talk) 13:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)D.G. Sydney.''' First of all isn't there a better interface that can be used for discussion? ok, I didn't delete it but edited a lot: here are the reasons as per your request. Thank you very much. I also moved the paragraph to the proper place in time line, hope you would agree. Greenleaf 06:31, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * that "Wickramasinghe exposed the LRRP" is a bit too strong. It was Kulasiri Udugampola who did it, so I changed the para to reflect the fact. Please have a look at the way it is now before reverting.
 * "ultra traitor" just sounds silly teenager gaming messegeboard-cruft. you don't usually use "ultra" as an adjective in literary work with "traitor". Sounding like a teenager won't be of any use, even if your idea is to emphasise, because it will just sound ameterish instead.
 * "majority of Sri Lankans" is unsubstantiated unless you show evidence, I added the fact of his defeat anyway, but there may be other reasons, such as economic hardship, escalating prices etc. So if you insist about a majority opposition, please elaborate why.
 * "veiled from the people of Sri Lanka in a foreign country (I forget which country)" is not enclyclopeadic. If you forgot, then research before you write. By the way, MoU was signed in Sri Lanka, so your claim was not true as well.

Plagiarism
The introduction is copied of here. --Morza (talk) 01:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Neutrality disputed
This article contains a lot of unsourced, glorifying information about the subject. Most of the information is written to  glorify the subject and be critical of his opponents. Hence the neutrality is disputed, and if the relevant sections are not cited they will be removedKerr avon (talk) 16:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Since much of the " glorify the subject and be critical of his opponents" has been removed by Kerr avon, what the article needs is refs. These will be provided as requested. Cossde (talk) 17:53, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. I'm pretty sure that most of these unsourced content are original research. And the neutrality is also disputed.-- Chamith   (talk)  08:41, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

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Spurious name
I suggest anyone reading this to help remove the spurious "Shriyan" middle name which some genius keeps re-adding, citing sources which patently copied it themselves from Wikipedia, in classic citogenesis fashion. The first source - from the Sri Lankan government! - copied its biography practically wholesale from an old (c. 2007) version of this article, which already had the "Shriyan" (since 2005). This is easily verified through Internet Archive. If the government copies from Wikipedia, one can hardly expect higher standards from the Sri Lankan news sites that are also cited. It is perfectly common, almost inevitable, that a piece of information like that which has been on Wikipedia for over 10 years gets copied by inept journalists. Thus a source pre-2005 is needed, but all are newer - even though the person has been prominent long before, so there should be a source if the name was correct. The parliament website which normally includes full names does not have "Shriyan". Mewulwe (talk) 23:49, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Hi there, genius here. It doesn't matter how these sources obtained their information, they are all WP:RS and can be used here. That is how Wikipedia works but I see from your block log that you don't have much time for Wikipedia policies and procedures. Anyway, for future reference, here are the references that you removed:

 * Your excuse that the Parliament website doesn't have "Shriyan" as reason for not including it in this article doesn't hold weight - see how they don't give the full names of Mahinda Rajapaksa, Namal Rajapaksa, Dinesh Gunawardena and Wimal Weerawansa? And here is the reference that shows that RW is a member of the Mont Pelerin Society that you removed:

 * The International Democrat Union is an association of political parties. The UNP, not RW, is a member of the IDU.-- obi2canibe talk contr 12:44, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I have indeed not much time for people who mechanically apply certain rules in flagrant violation of common sense (if you need a "rule" for that, there's the overriding WP:IAR). You don't even begin to try to make a case for the plausibility of the correctness of the name. "Verifiability not truth", right? Doesn't matter if Wikipedia itself creates a world of fictitious yet cited and thus "verifiable" facts! As to the parliament website, I didn't say this is conclusive; ultimately the burden of proof is on the side of inclusion, and for that I maintain you need a pre-2005 source. And I don't care about your Mont Pelerin edit, just make it separately. Mewulwe (talk) 20:40, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

 * - do you have consensus for removing "Shriyan" as required by WP:IAR? I was open to the possibility that its not RW's name that's why I went and found WP:RS, of which there were many. You on the other hand are not open to the possibility it may be RW's name. What's wrong with "Shriyan"? Why do you find it offensive? Is it derogatory? From what I can see "Shriyan" was first added by Nalindes on 17 December 2005. If you look at Nalindes edits you will see that he is a UNP/RW supporter so why would he make up a "spurious name"? Your assertion that a pre-2005 source is needed is dodging the fact that WP:RS have been provided and so WP:V has been complied with. With regards to Mont Pelerin, you removed so please re-insert it.-- obi2canibe talk contr 16:03, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I am perfectly open to the possibility that the name is real, nor suggesting it is offensive or derogatory. But without an earlier source, and all later sources very likely being derived from Wikipedia, there is a good possibility the original editor was somehow mistaken (always more likely than a deliberate hoax), and a potential misinformation shouldn't be perpetuated further. If it's real, there has to be an earlier source, which may turn up sometime. Mewulwe (talk) 17:35, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2018
Ranil Wikramasinghe is not the current Prime Minister. It was change after 26 October 208. Please Change the Prime Minister from Ranil Wikramasinghe to Mahinda Rajapaksa. Avidu (talk) 06:30, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. — KuyaBriBri Talk 14:50, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2018
124.43.106.200 (talk) 09:37, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌ ― Abelmoschus  Esculentus  13:16, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2018
Ranil Wickremasinghe is the former Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. What proceeded on the 26th of October, 2018 was an unconstitutional move as clearly evidenced by multiple legal experts. Refer the sources here:

http://groundviews.org/2018/10/29/of-constitutions-cabinets-and-coups/ https://www.facebook.com/groundviews/videos/770398249975298/

Therefore, my humble request is the Wikipedia does not provide legitimacy to the unconstitutional takeover that occurred in Sri Lanka. Please consider the following edits. 1. Revert the article "Ranil Wickremasinghe" to its original form before 26th of October, 2018, thereby recognizing him as the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. 2. Revert the article "Mahinda Rajapaksa" to its original form before the 26th of October, 2018, revoking his recognition as the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. Chrisjitxavier (talk) 12:38, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. This is a bigger issue that should probably be discussed at WP:SRI LANKA. — KuyaBriBri Talk 13:36, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2018
DraganzN (talk) 05:26, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Ranil Wickremesinghe is not Prime Minister of Sri Lanka now. Please change it as Mahinda Rajapaksha.

Source: http://www.dailynews.lk/2018/10/27/local/166702/mahinda-sworn-pm
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Who the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka is is currently under dispute. This is disclosed in the infobox at the top of the article, which states that his role as prime minister is "Disputed with Mahinda Rajapaksa from 26 October 2018". Until the dispute is resolved, this disclaimer is enough. See the full controversy at 2018 Sri Lankan constitutional crisis. DannyS712 (talk) 22:56, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2018
Sri lanka legal Prime Minister is Ms Ranil Wickremesinghe.Sri Lanka Parliament Speaker recognises Ranil Wickremesinghe as Prime Minister.See
 * not sure what you are requesting. Frietjes (talk) 19:07, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Precipitation of the constitutional crisis
In its current form the text in the section for the 2018 constitutional crisis seems to suggest that it is Wickramasinghe's refusal to accept the President's dismissal the precipitated the constitutional crisis. See quoted text below

"He also informed Ranil Wickremesinghe was removed from office. Wickremesinghe said he refuses to accept the dismissal claiming that it was unconstitutional which triggered a constitutional crisis"

However I would argue that it was the President's dismissal of Wickramasinghe, which was the exercise of an power that had been ostensibly stripped from the presidency with the 19th amendment, and the resulting competing interpretations of the relevant clauses in the constitution that led to the crisis.

I'd like hear if there's any opposition to the position before I edit the text to reflect this.

DanajaT (talk) 03:50, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * What matters is not your "argument" (or mine), but the reports by reliable sources. As long as you cite reliable sources, you should feel free to update the article. -- ChamithN   (talk)  08:58, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

 * Thank you for responding!. I agree that having reliable sources is be     very important. Do you think the current text meets that standard? The single citation associated with it is from a local news publication about the President appointing the Rajapakse as the prime minister. It doesn't refer to any constitutional implications at all or even Wickramsinghe's refusal. On the other hand, the main page on the constitutional crisis starts by stating the crisis began with President's appointment of Rajapakse based on a citation that . I think the problem here is one of interpretation. Did the crisis begin when the president appointed Rajapakse or when Wickramasinghe refused to accept that appointment? Either interpretation can be considered a value judgment which doesn't belong here. We could potentially represent both perspectives with supporting "opinion" sources in the interest of a Neutral point of view though I'm not sure it would add any particular value. Alternatively, may be we could maybe use a more narrow interpretation by considering the first of the series of events (appointment of Rajapakse) that comprise this crisis as the one that started it with no value judgment or assignment of responsibility. In this case the current source can remain and the text would change to something neutral like the first sentence in the constitutional crisis article quoted below. I'm partial to this since it would also achieve consistency across the two articles as well.

 * "A constitutional crisis began in Sri Lanka when President Maithripala Sirisena appointed former president and member of parliament Mahinda Rajapaksa as prime minister on 26 October 2018 before formally dismissing the incumbent Ranil Wickremesinghe, resulting in two concurrent prime ministers"

 * What do you think?

 * DanajaT (talk) 23:00, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

 * I think you make a good point there. I believe you should go ahead and update the article to reflect your suggestion(s). -- ChamithN   (talk)  07:45, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Ranil Wickremesinghe has announced his resignation as Prime Minister of Sri Lanka
Ranil Wickremesinghe had resigned on 9 July. please update it in this article. Source:https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/sri-lanka-crisis-pm-wickremesinghe-steps-down-after-leaders-demand-resignation-101657373028507.html RayAdvait (talk) 02:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

 * Wickremesinghe has decided to resign but he has not resigned yet. Understand the difference. And this article is up-to-date and his announcement about willingness to resign is mentioned in the introduction and the Fourth premiership section. 🔮 Plpm 2021  💬 02:47, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Blanking and/or trolling
Will some users here quit vandalizing or blanking without any discussion? Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 09:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

 * Well, just revert the vandalism. Firestar464 (talk) 06:00, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

I've reverted it more than 50 times. I can't sit in front of a screen forever. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 22:11, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Rajapaksa has not resigned
Stop blanking the sourced note explaining Rajapaksa has not resigned and changing the infobox to say Wickremesinghe has fully succeeded Rajapaksa. You have already been warned not to do this without sources and are now edit-warring, with a misleading edit summary suggesting it's only a formatting change. This is disruptive. ― Tartan357  Talk 06:48, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

He has resigned which will be officially announced tomorrow and appointed Ranil as the President. You're being disruptive yourself. , Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 22:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Being the Queen Of England
He is appointed as the queen of England after the military coup happened in 2023. Perseus0001 (talk) 16:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

 * @Perseus0001, what exactly do you mean by this?? Kpddg   (talk)  17:13, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

 * He must be a time traveller. Afraid we can't help him though, not without violating WP:CRYSTAL. So just ignore him.-- Chanaka L ( talk ) 17:22, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Number of terms
Per this article on Daily News, the current prime minister term should be his sixth. They are,
 * 1) 93-94
 * 2) 2001-04
 * 3) 2015 Jan-2015 Aug (Sirisena won the presidential election and appoint RW as the PM)
 * 4) 2015 Aug-2018 Oct (wins the parliamentary election, becomes the pm)
 * 5) 2018 Dec-2019 (after the 2018 Sri Lankan constitutional crisis, sworn in again)
 * 6) 2022 (the current ministry)

Looks like each time someone take the oath, it is considered a fresh term. Anyone else have an idea on how these terms should be counted? <b style="color: SteelBlue;">Chanaka L</b> ( talk ) 15:10, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

 * Here Indian Express says 2022 term is Wickremesinghe's 5th term while Al Jazeera and The Hindustan Times say it's the 6th term. I think we should refer to an official statement to decide the number of terms instead of referring to what media say. 🔮 Plpm 2021  💬 16:01, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

 * I was able to dig up the official page, here it is. Looks like the Daily News article is spot on. List of prime ministers of Sri Lanka should be updated accordingly, I guess.-- <b style="color: SteelBlue;">Chanaka L</b> ( talk ) 16:20, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2022
Please edit the following: He is the president now (He should be elect-pres but he was the president before too.), as per: http://sinhala.adaderana.lk/news/170384/%E0%B6%A1%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%8A%E0%B6%AF-%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%8A%E2%80%8D%E0%B6%BB%E0%B6%AD%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B5%E0%B6%BD%E0%B6%BA-%E0%B6%B8%E0%B7%99%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%8A%E0%B6%B1. By the way he hasn't sweared yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VScode fanboy (talk • contribs) 16:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Additionally, please sign your comment and start a new section next time. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:40, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Other Political Affiliations - Sri Lanka Podujana Peramuna
I propose that the SLPP be added to his other political affiliations as he was elected as President (and is currently supported) by the majority faction of the party. 2402:D000:811C:17B7:55D5:437D:D46C:1C75 (talk) 16:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

title: Talk:Ranil Wickremesinghe