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Talk:Edith Wharton

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The inset says she was married to Wharton. In the body, it says the engagement was broken off and stops there. Is there information about when/how they ultimately reconciled and married?

French address
Hi all,

I just fixed a link to a disambiguation page and I couldn't help but notice a style issue:
 * St.-Brice-sous-Forêt, Val-d'Oise, Île-de-France, France

I know it's usually the way it is done in the U.S., but a more natural way would be to write this: St.-Brice-sous-Forêt (Val-d'Oise) France

Additionally, although the Val-d'Oise departement does belong to the Ile-de-France region, the region territorial division was created much later after Edith's death, in the 1980's I believe.

You guys can fix it if you feel like it. Tony Bruguier 01:31, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I rectified/explained the point about Val d'Oise not existing until after her death in my edit of 2 September 2006.CWO 00:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, it is Seine-et-Oise, a departamental division that has existed since the time of Napoleon I. I have also corrected the name of the house she died in, mispelt in the 1937 NY Times obituary.

See: http://www.patrimoine-de-france.org/oeuvres/richesses-50-14636-105627-M157434-258679.html

65.206.122.30 (talk) 01:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

No mention of Edith Wharton's lover, Morton Fullerton? Curious. (And if I've missed it, he's not give much mention.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjdschwartzstein (talk • contribs) 16:21, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I write the book
I've seen mention of an autobio, A Backward Glance, not mentioned. Can somebody confirm? Trekphiler 11:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, this is the title of her autobiography, which I've read (in a copy borrowed from a library), so in the few edits I have done, I wasn't able refer to it even if I'd wanted to, though actually the article was (in my view) already a very well written piece and there wouldn't have been any need for me to use the autobio anyway. However, it's presumably worth mentioning in the references, and I'll get the details and add it. CWO 00:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

 * In fact, it was already there, as it's contained in one of the books in the references (which was the edition in which I read it), but it was not explicit. I've now made it explicit.CWO 00:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Expanded List of Works
Hope I didn't step on any toes, I added to the list of her published works. I also clicked through the links that exist and updated the disambiguation pages where necessary. Wtbe7560 00:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi--I would like to add a link to an individual short story, "Bunner Sisters," written in 1892 and published in 1916. Any suggestions? Jentuser (talk) 13:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)jentuser

 * Go ahead and add to the works section. Do you know how? Truthkeeper88 (talk) 13:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Porn?
"The Book of the Homeless, featuring writings, art, porn, and musical scores from almost every major European artist of the day..." Uh, is that graffiti, or did she really edit porn? :-) --Tdkehoe 16:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Erotica is what educated people would call it. But this is Wikipedia... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.206.122.30 (talk) 01:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Her husband
Was he related to Jospeh Wharton, the man that founded the Wharton Business School? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ahassan05 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC).

Literary success
The section "Literary success" seems to be about everything but. What would make a better section title?

--UnicornTapestry (talk) 09:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Biography
I just read a relatively recent book on Wharton: Hermione Lee, Edith Wharton, Vintage Books, London, 2007, ISBN 9780099763512, 854 p. It seems that Wharton was quite secret as to her private life and only recent evidence permits to have a better view of her life. Former biographies may be partly based on legends. The book of Hermione Lee is based on some five years of research. I find that the page gives a really unfair treatment of Wharton’s mental health. Because of a badly assorted marriage, she has been somewhat depressive at times, as everybody could be. The phrase "a toll on Wharton's mental health" is an exaggeration and gives a false image of her. Idem for "divorced in 1913, after she suffered a nervous breakdown and was confined to a hospital". (The resource from npg.si.edu uses a more moderate formulation about "in the 1890s" and not a word about a hospital around 1913. Most of the details given here are not mentioned there. The biography in the present state of the Wikipedia page is not sufficiently based on references by Wikipedia standards.) In fact the very reason for the divorce was that *he* was badly mentally ill, *he* had to spend more and more time in hospitals and became really unmanageable. She has been depressed, he died really mad, there is no comparison. My English is to poor to dare write in the page itself. (I hope it is acceptable enough for the discussion page. Sorry if by lack of nuance my critic is too sharp.) Would somebody be so kind to do Edith Wharton justice in the page? Dominique Meeùs (talk) 18:22, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this post. I have this page on (long) list of articles to improve. It's very much in need of work. I have an Edith Wharton biography, but thanks for posting the details to the newer one. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 18:33, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Intro
Tempted to delete this sentence, but maybe it's important if it can be clarified:

 * Around the same time, Edith was overcome with the harsh criticisms leveled by the naturalist writers.

What does it mean? "Overcome by," maybe? And in what sense overcome; she goes on to write her major novels after this. It's unsourced too.KD Tries Again (talk) 14:17, 27 March 2012 (UTC)KD Tries Again

 * I'm not sure 'overcome by' changes the sense much. The syntax is a little strange but the meaning seems clear enough. It seems she was overwhelmed by her critics for a while and then went on to write more novels. That doesn't seem strange to me and no doubt the sentence is pointing at some specific event or set of reviews. Syntax often gets a bit mangled as editors do their best to be specific while paraphrasing texts to avoid copyright vios. We can add a cn tag, if you want. I don't think it's a biggie. More research into this would, of course, help, as always. Span (talk) 15:20, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Adaptations section necessary?
Usually the film & other adaptations of a work are listed on the article about the work, not its creator. The only reason that I can think of for them to be here is that there aren't articles for all of her works. Jfmantis (talk) 01:40, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Edits for this entire page
I have to edit a wikipedia page for a class assignment. This is the page that I chosen to do. I will add more to the biography section (what she started writing and when). I also plan on fixing some discrepancies I have found about Edith Wharton's husband. I will also describe more of her writing styles to this article. At this time this is all I have found to fix, but suggestions are welcome and I will fix more as I encounter the problem(s). You may post suggestions here or on my User talk page. Awest-ENG235 (talk) 04:17, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey sounds like a great project! Make sure that you include references to increase the verification of content on the page! Make sure to draw sources from academic databases like JStor and Project Muse! Sadads (talk) 16:45, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Welcome ! This article is in poor shape and any edits to it will be helpful. Generally the sourcing is poor, so looking forward to your work here. If you have questions please don't hesitate to ask. In the meantime, I've tidied up a bit to make editing around the mess easier. Victoria (tk) 23:19, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you all! If I need help I will be sure to ask. Thanks  for the link. Awest-ENG235 (talk) 21:49, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes, this page was indeed in poor shape, but it is gradually improving. Wharton deserves better. The article in its original form shows that entries for English wikipedia MUST be written only by those whose first language is English. I am a copy editor and I recognize that most of the problems here are second language errors. Regardless of the good intentions of the original writer, English is an easy language to learn and to speak at a low level, but proper, academic level written English is extremely difficult to master, and this mastery is seldom if ever achieved by a native speaker of another language. (In this case, the original author was undoubtedly working from French.)SamJohn2013 (talk) 21:39, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

My real question is, why was this article ever allowed to see print in the first place? Are Wikipedia standards so low as to allow such an article to be published without review? The work being done here is far beyond copy editing, it is a remedial course in basic writing skills, which should have been done in a school or a sandbox, not here in the published text of an important literary biography. SamJohn2013 (talk) 07:07, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Glad you could swoop in, Angel of Mercy. The talk page should be reserved for ideas on how to make the article better, not bitching about how shitty you think the article is in its present state; that's just not helpful. All best, but your comments make you sound like you're "too good" to be doing this. Maybe just make edits and leave the high-mindedness at home? Icarus of old (talk) 15:40, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh, please excuse me. Having basic standards for written English and caring about whether Wikipedia should strive to maintain them is now considered "high-minded"? I assure you that my only intention has been to improve this article, to pass on my methods to others who may also care, and to stand up for one one of the greatest American writers of the twentieth century. SamJohn2013 (talk) 21:22, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool. You can do that and not write snobby talk page comments or edit summaries though. All best. Icarus of old (talk) 22:52, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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Prizes in the lead
Pinging, , ,

It looks as though there's been a bit of to-and-fro recently on which awards and nominations should be included in the lead paragraph of the article. In the interests of avoiding a slow edit war, I'm opening this up for discussion so that a solution which satisfies everyone can be reached.

The dispute seems to be over the phrase "Pulitzer Prize-winning author". The current version of the article doesn't mention her Pulitzer in the lead at all, preferring to cover her Nobel nominations. It seems strange not to mention the Pulitzer in the lead, since being the first women to win it is a pretty major achievement. However, I also take the point that any "is an award-winning novelist/actor/musician/investment banker/snowmobile salesman" isn't great language for the first sentence of an article, so I propose a compromise, below (addition in italics):

""

Totally open to changes in wording etc. but how do people feel about adding this extra line to ensure that the Pulitzer gets a mention without having to append the rather unattractive "award-winning" statement? Yunshui 雲 水 10:23, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I think that would be an excellent solution,, as I do feel the Pulitzer achievement deserves mention in the lead. A further tweak I'd suggest would be to re-jig it slightly so it was "... ... 1928 and 1930, and became the first woman to win a Pulitzer Prize in 1921." so there isn't a ream of years all beside each other. Alternatively - and something along the following lines would be my preferred option as firstly, it is chronological and secondly, she actually won the Pulitzer whereas the Nobel Prize was a nomination: "In 1921 she became the first woman to win a Pulitzer Prize and was nominated for the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1927, 1928 and 1930." The other thing that needs to be done (IMO) is for the information about the Nobel Prize to be included in the main body of the article text so that the ref can be removed from the lead. SagaciousPhil  - Chat 12:06, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * , thanks for opening this talk page discussion. I agree with your reasoning, and like the direction of your suggested change. The change of emphasis suggested by is good also. Put me down for the combination of the two changes. — Neonorange (Phil) 16:17, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

It is a difficult problem, but my take is as follows: Awards are, regardless of their importance, a poor measure of a person's worth. With Wharton though, the Pulitzer Prize takes on added significance because it was historic, in that it was indicative of a change in the literary world's recognition of woman writers. So the Pulitzer is in, the Nobel nomination is out, as largely symbolic. It is already mentioned at another point in the text.

My real editorial concern is with the introduction overall. Its coherency is distracted by too many adjectives in the description. I propose the following recast:

Edith Wharton (...) was an American novelist, short story writer, and designer. Wharton combined an insiders' view of American aristocracy with a powerful prose style. Her insightful novels and short stories realistically portrayed the lives and morals of the late nineteenth century, an era of decline and faded wealth. She won the Pulitzer Prize for Literature in 1921, and was the first woman to receive this honor. Wharton was acquainted with many of the well-known people of her day, both in America and in Europe, including President Theodore Roosevelt. SamJohn2013 (talk) 19:24, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

 * I like the adjectival strimming you've done there (I'd consider perhaps removing "insightful" as well, actually). I'm sort of on the fence about the Nobel nominations; while I totally agree that a prize won should take precedence over a prize someone didn't win, even being on the nominations list for a Nobel is quite an achievement. So... I'd be happy either way on that. But definitely a good call on the descriptions of her sparkling wit, etc. Yunshui 雲 水 19:42, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Lacking further comment form others, I've implemented SamJohn2013's version of the text, and have added a mention of the Nobel nominations later in the article body. Yunshui 雲 水 10:34, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

When was the last assessment made to this article?
This article seems much stronger than C-class, it's seen a great deal of improvement in the past months. I can't tell when the last assessments were made, and would venture this is could use another round of review, anyone else? Shameran81 (talk) 18:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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GA Status
I'm working as part of the WP:WikiProject Women/Women in Green to see if we can make improvements to move Edith Wharton up to GA status. Auldhouse (talk) 18:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There are a number of sources repeated, so I'll be switching the references to Harvard Ref. Auldhouse (talk) 17:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Playwright
I have been listening to Melvyn Bragg's In Our Time on BBC Radio 4 on October 4 2018 on Edith Wharton. One of the speakers on said that Edith Wharton had written plays before writing her first novel, so should the opening of this article add that she was a playwright? Vorbee (talk) 08:15, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You are correct Vorbee. I'm looking at a list of her works and she wrote three. I'll add that. Auldhouse (talk) 16:09, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a Wharton play on BBC Radio 3 at the moment. The Shadow of a Doubt.  According to the introduction, someone found references to it in the New York Times from 1901 and was able to track down the manuscript - complete.  It was going into production in 1901 but abandoned, possibly because of its controversial subject matter.  This is its first production

 * https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0000xfl

2A00:23C6:1683:4D01:8025:4373:D2C0:7014 (talk) 19:57, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Art history?
I can't see how she qualifies for the list of 'Women in the Art History field'. Valetude (talk) 00:34, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Land's End
There appears to be a conflict about when Wharton bought the property named "Land's End".

In the first paragraph under '1880s-1900s' it reads "In 1893, they bought a house named Land's End, on the other side of Newport, for $80,000..."

But in the third paragraph under 'Travels and Life Abroad' it says "In 1897, Edith Wharton purchased Land's End in Newport, Rhode Island[...]Wharton agreed to pay $80,000 for the property, and spent thousands more to alter the home's facade..." 72.195.208.146 (talk) 22:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

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The American School in London

The American School in London (ASL) is a private, independent school in St John's Wood, London, England, for students from kindergarten through high school.

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Non-copyvio
I placed a db-copyvio on this page because I significantly misread something as a claim that the text was copied and pasted from a McGraw-Hill textbook. On further reflection, I realized that I was mistaken and removed the tag. My apologies for causing the confusion! - C HAIRBOY (☎) 01:33, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Facts/Citations
This article asserts many notions as verified fact when they are mere hypotheses and some are widely contested. Furthermore, more information can be included throughout this article. (I might get around to it, but I wanted to point the issues for the community anyway) 99.72.108.134 (talk) 04:15, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Hilly Flanks = Mesopotamia??
My understanding is that these are two separate places. One is hilly, hence the name, the other is between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. The Hilly Flanks are where agriculture began, Mesopotamia is where civilisation began millennia later. LastDodo (talk) 11:20, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Hilly Flanks = Stub edit
Hi fellow reader/editor. I've added a lot more research and information to this stub, with the hopes it'll move up in the Wikipedia article classifications. I would appreciate some guidance, insight, suggestions, feedback, or discussions about the content. I'm no expert, but I'm happy to bounce off ideas and hear opinions. Redherring22 (talk) 22:33, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Archaeology
Voice 154.231.103.39 (talk) 13:22, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Requested Review
Per the request at WikiProject Archaeology/Assessment, I've taken a look at the article. It's clear, reads well and is informative about the subject - about which I knew very little before starting, so I'll limit my comments to what I can say about the style, structure and expression.

It's clearly much better than Stub class - to my eyes, it's either at the very top of C or just creeping onto B. I've popped it straight into C, but my instinct is that a lot of the below can be quickly fixed and would make a move up to B (or indeed a GA nomination) straightforward.

A few things I noticed, looking through:

Lead

 * It's not usual to cite sources in the lead - see MOS:CITELEAD - unless quoting someone directly or saying something really controversial. In theory, the lead should be a shortened version of the whole article, so any statements of fact should appear again in the main text and be cited there. The text of the lead itself is excellent for my needs as an interested non-specialist.
 * "Hilly Flanks" seems to be generally used in speech marks - 'single quotes' would be more usual (see Use–mention distinction).

Etymology

 * The term 'hilly flanks' has been commonly  associated [emphasis mine] - I'm a little uncomfortable with a whole (short) paragraph asserting that a phrase is in common use without citing at least an example of that use. Strictly speaking, it would be best to find a source asserting that the phrase is common.
 * The phrasing of Braidwood's theory, particularly the middle part of that sections (This enabled societies to carry out agriculture without irrigation. Communities were able to raise livestock in this region.) - the 'voice' seems to be shifting here; I'm a little unclear about what's being presented as Braidwood's theory versus a fact asserted by the article itself. I notice that the citation here is to Braidwood's obit, and this seems to be pretty brief summary: could the original article or book (and perhaps some responses to it?) be tracked down to flesh out exactly what Braidwood argued, his evidence base, and how it was received?
 * ...evidence that supported Braidwood's theory... - do we know what that evidence was?
 * I wonder if the Ren et al article cited at the end of 'Etymology' explicitly based their use of the 'Hilly Flanks' term on its use in the Middle East?
 * More generally, I'm not sure that 'Etymology' is the right section to discuss the putative origins of agriculture in the Hilly Flanks. It would be better, I think, to roll that material into the 'Archaeology' section, which would also fix the minor problem that the beginning of the Archaeology section repeats some of the earlier material but misses out a lot of it, making for a slightly too-clean picture.

Archaeology

 * I've made some minor copyedits in the first paragraph here.
 * A map would make the geography easier - I'm not totally clear on how the Shahrizor, Pishdar and Rania plains fit into/interact with the 'Hilly Flanks'.
 * There's a bit of WP:FLUFF here - I've made some edits (e.g. that Ubaid pottery has a unique style - is there such thing as a named style that isn't unique?).
 * which the culture viewed as a “sign of femininity.” - is this known-for-sure certain, or more of an 'it has been suggested that...'?
 * I've popped in a couple of tags where the text seems to be implying or gesturing at something that isn't explicit. In particular, see implies a period of discovering their body and identity. - who are 'they', and what exactly does 'a period of discovering their body' entail?
 * I've put a tag on the expedition - assume it's the one cited?

Agriculture

 * The hilly flanks are largely believed to be the origins of agriculture - this definitely needs direct citation to academic literature on the subject: it's a big claim and I don't think Braidwood's obit or Britannica are quite enough for it, if indeed those citations are intended to back that statement up.
 * ...there was an inconsistency in the pig management methods used throughout the region... - could this be expanded/explained? Is it just a matter of timing, as discussed in the following sentences?
 * The early Holocene climate change - could briefly recap the characteristics of that change which are relevant here.
 * A noteworthy finding from the Joint Istanbul University-Chicago Oriental Institute Prehistoric Project was the low presence of grains and grain legumes. The researchers believe the poor preservation of the food plants in the upper levels may account for this diminished amount. The decline in traces of food plants may indicate a difference in dependency of food sources, from plant to animal - these three sentences seem to be slightly contradictory - first, the finding is noteworthy, next, it's just an artefact of taphonomy. In the third sentence, it's no longer an artefact, but evidence for changing dietary practices. It sounds like there's more than one person's interpretation being discussed here, but only one source is cited.
 * Shahrizor, a wide valley in the hilly flanks region bordered by the Zagros Mountains in the northeast and the mountainous Surdash region in the northwest, is known for its agricultural history. - this sounds like WP:PUFF to me, unless this place has been noted in the literature as famous for farming. If so, probably needs a rephrase.

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Otoya Yamaguchi

Otoya Yamaguchi (山口 二矢) was a Japanese right-wing ultranationalist youth who assassinated Inejirō Asanuma, chairman of the Japan Socialist Party, on 12 October 1960. Yamaguchi rushed the stage and stabbed Asanuma with a wakizashi-like short sword while Asanuma was participating in a televised election debate at Hibiya Public Hall in Tokyo. Yamaguchi, who was 17 years of age at the time, had been a member of Bin Akao's far-right Greater Japan Patriotic Party, but had resigned earlier that year, just prior to the assassination. After being arrested and interrogated, Yamaguchi committed suicide while in a detention facility.

Yamaguchi became a hero and a martyr to Japanese far-right groups, who as of 2022, have continued to hold commemorations to this day. Yamaguchi's actions inspired a number of copycat crimes, including the Shimanaka incident in 1961, and inspired Nobel Prize-winning novelist Kenzaburō Ōe's novellas Seventeen and Death of a Political Youth. A photograph of the Asanuma assassination taken by Japanese photojournalist Yasushi Nagao won World Press Photo of the Year for 1960 and the 1961 Pulitzer Prize.

Early life
Yamaguchi was born on 22 February 1943 in Yanaka, Taitō ward, Tokyo. He was the second son of Shinpei Yamaguchi, who by 1960 would become a high-ranking officer in the Japan Ground Self-Defense Force, and was the maternal grandson of the famous writer Namiroku Murakami, well known for his violent novels glorifying the chivalric code of Japanese organized crime syndicates known as the yakuza.

Yamaguchi began reading newspapers starting in his early childhood. Angered by what he read, he became interested in nationalist movements and vehemently critical of politicians. Due to his father's job, he lived in Sapporo, Hokkaido for much of his childhood. In 1958, he was accepted into Tamagawa High School in Tokyo, however his father transferred him to Sapporo Kōsei, a local Catholic school in Sapporo. Yamaguchi then decided to move to Tokyo to live with his brother, and transferred back to Tamagawa High School. Through the influence of his brother, he began attending speeches and participating in protests and counter-protests organized by various right-wing groups.

On 10 May 1959, at age 16, he heard a speech by right-wing ultranationalist Bin Akao declaring that Japan was on the verge of a revolution, and that the youth must begin resisting the actions of left-wing groups. This speech had a profound impact on him. After the speech, while Akao was planning to go to the next location, Yamaguchi told Akao that he wanted to go along with him, but Akao gently declined. Following this, he formally joined Akao's Greater Japan Patriotic Party (大日本愛国党, Dai Nippon Aikokutō).

1960 Anpo protests

Akao was virulently anti-communist and strongly pro-United States. Thus when left-wing protesters, led by Asanuma and the Japan Socialist Party, staged the massive Anpo protests against the 1960 revision of the U.S.-Japan Security Treaty (known as "Anpo" in Japanese), Akao became convinced that Japan was on the verge of a communist revolution and mobilized his followers to stage counter-protests. Yamaguchi participated in these counter-protest activities, and was arrested and released 10 times over the course of 1959 and 1960, within his first six months since joining Akao's party.

Over the course of his participation in the Anpo protests, Yamaguchi became further disillusioned with Akao's leadership, which he felt was not radical enough. In his testimony to the police after the assassination of Asanuma, Yamaguchi stated that Akao was always talking about taking out left-wing leaders, but was only interested in protests and media coverage, and that Akao would stop him if he ever tried to act on his words. Later in the interview, he stated that he had resigned from Akao's party in order to "lay [his] hands on a weapon" and be free to take more "decisive action."

Assassination of Inejirō Asanuma
On 12 October 1960, Yamaguchi was in the large crowd of 2,500 spectators at a televised election debate held in Hibiya Public Hall in Hibiya Park in central Tokyo, featuring Suehiro Nishio of the Democratic Socialist Party, Inejirō Asanuma of the Japan Socialist Party, and Hayato Ikeda of the Liberal Democratic Party. Asanuma was the second to speak, and took the stage at 3:00 p.m.

At 3:05 p.m., Yamaguchi rushed onto the stage and made a deep thrust into Asanuma's left flank with the 33-centimeter replica "wakizashi" he had stolen from his father. He was subsequently thereafter swarmed and detained by bystanders. Asanuma then died within minutes from massive internal bleeding.

At the time of his arrest at the scene of the murder, Yamaguchi had a notebook in his pocket describing Asanuma's actions as unforgivable, as well as detailing his motivations for the attack.

In this note, he made mention of political controversy surrounding Asanuma's support for the then recently proclaimed People's Republic of China, the June 15th Incident during the Anpo Protests, as well as concerns over Japan potentially becoming communist.

The loss of Asanuma's adroit leadership and the new leadership that followed caused the party to head in a more centrist direction, and deprived the JSP of its ability to present a cohesive message, leading to severe infighting within the party. As a result, the number of seats the socialists held in the Diet continued to decline until the party's extinction in 1996.

Imprisonment and suicide
Following the assassination, Yamaguchi was arrested and imprisoned awaiting trial. Throughout his incarceration, Yamaguchi remained calm and composed and freely gave extensive testimony to police. He spoke of goals pertaining to causing the restriction of behavior for future left-wing leaders, as well as a desire to negatively influence public perception of left-wing leaders and their ideology.

Yamaguchi spoke of Akao respectfully, referring to him using the honorific sensei (先生), however, also stating that Akao was more interested in "media attention" and "agitation", as opposed to actively putting his words and ideals to practice. Yamaguchi told police that Akao would have prevented him from carrying out the assassination had he known of his intentions, as well as consistently maintaining that he had acted alone and without any direction from others, stating the inaction on Akao's part as a component of his motivation and reasoning for resigning from the party and committing the offense.

Less than three weeks after the assassination, on 2 November, Yamaguchi mixed a small amount of toothpaste with water and wrote on his cell wall, "Long live the Emperor" (天皇陛下万才) and "Would that I had seven lives to give for my country" (七生報国), the latter a reference to the famous last words of fourteenth-century samurai Kusunoki Masashige. Yamaguchi then knotted strips of his bedsheet into a makeshift rope and used it to hang himself from a light fixture.

Right-wing groups celebrated Yamaguchi as a martyr; they gave a burial coat, kimono, and belt to his parents and performed a memorial service for him. His ashes were interred in Aoyama Cemetery.

Legacy
A photograph taken by Yasushi Nagao immediately after Yamaguchi withdrew his sword from Asanuma won the 1961 Pulitzer Prize, and the 1960 World Press Photo award. Footage of the incident was also captured.

On 15 December 1960, just weeks after Yamaguchi's suicide, a nationwide coalition of Japanese right-wing groups held a "National Memorial Service for Our Martyred Brother Yamaguchi Otoya" in the same Hibya Public Hall in Tokyo where Yamaguchi had assassinated Asanuma. Since then, right-wing groups have held an annual commemoration of Yamaguchi's death anniversary each year on 2 November. In October 2010, right-wing groups staged a large-scale celebration of the 50th anniversary of Yamaguchi's assassination of Asanuma in Hibiya Park.

Yamaguchi's actions and the massive publicity they received inspired a rash of copycat crimes, as a number of political figures became targets of assassination plots and attempts over the next few years. Of the notable crimes inspired by Yamaguchi's attack, one was the Shimanaka Incident of 1 February 1961. In this incident, Kazutaka Komori, a 17-year-old member of the Greater Japan Patriotic Party, attempted to assassinate the president of Chūō Kōron magazine for publishing a graphic dream sequence depicting the beheading of the emperor and his family. This played a role in establishing what came to be known as the Chrysanthemum taboo.

Japanese author Kenzaburō Ōe based his 1961 novellas Seventeen and Death of a Political Youth on Yamaguchi.

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Below is the original, untranslated transcriptions from various statements made by the subject of this article.

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Bille Brown

William Gerald Brown AM (11 January 1952 – 13 January 2013) professionally known as Bille Brown was an Australian stage, film and television actor and acclaimed playwright.

Early life
Brown was born in Biloela, Queensland and studied drama at the University of Queensland. He began his career in the early 1970s at Queensland Theatre Company, working alongside Geoffrey Rush. He was openly gay.

Abroad
Brown's career took him abroad to Britain, where he joined the Royal Shakespeare Company (RSC), and was the first Australian commissioned to write and perform in their own play – The Swan Down Gloves. The show opened at the Barbican Theatre (RSC's home theatre from 1982 to 2002) and had a Royal Command Performance. As a member of the RSC (between 1976 and 1982, 1986–88 and 1994–96) Brown toured with their productions throughout Europe, playing Paris, Vienna, Berlin and Munich. He also appeared in the RSC's premiere production of The Wizard of Oz in the gender-bending roles of The Wicked Witch of the West and Miss Gulch, for which he was nominated for an Olivier Award in 1988.

While working in the United Kingdom, Brown also performed in the West End, at the Aldwych and Haymarket Theatres, the Chichester Festival Theatre, English National Opera and Dublin Theatre Festival. While performing onstage at Stratford he was spotted by John Cleese, who cast him in Fierce Creatures, the sequel to A Fish Called Wanda.

In New York, Brown made his Broadway debut as an actor in 1986 in Michael Frayn's Wild Honey with Ian McKellen, directed by Christopher Morahan, and as a playwright with his adaptation of a benefit performance of A Christmas Carol in 1985, featuring Helen Hayes, Len Cariou as Scrooge, MacIntyre Dixon, Celeste Holm, Raúl Juliá, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Harold Scott, Carole Shelley, and Fritz Weaver, directed by W. Stuart McDowell. He was also an Artist-in-residence at the State University of New York in 1982.

Bille Brown was a visiting professor at the State University of New York at New Paltz.

Australia
Brown returned to Australia to live permanently in 1996. He had an outstanding career on stage and performed for many leading Australian theatre companies, including Queensland Theatre Company, Sydney Theatre Company, Bell Shakespeare Company, Malthouse Theatre, Melbourne Theatre Company, Company B, State Theatre Company of South Australia, Marian St Theatre, La Boite and the Old Tote Theatre at the Sydney Opera House.

In 1996, he directed the Australian stage production of Hugh Lunn's Over the Top with Jim, which exceeded box office expectations. He had huge success with his role as Count Almaviva in Beaumarchais' The Marriage of Figaro, with Geoffrey Rush, which opened the new Playhouse in Brisbane in September 1998. In 1999 he also had major success in Sydney and subsequently throughout Australia as Oscar Wilde in the Belvoir St production of David Hare's The Judas Kiss.

The same year he accepted an offer to be Adjunct Professor in the School of English, Media Studies and Art History at the University of Queensland, and gave workshops and master classes for drama students.

In 2009, Brown wrote and performed in Queensland Theatre Company's The School of Arts. The play follows the story of the old 'College Players' who toured Shakespeare through Queensland in the late 1960s.

His playwriting credits include Bill and Mary, based on imaginary conversations between the poet Mary Gilmore and the portrait painter William Dobell while she was sitting for him.

Film
Brown appeared in films including Fierce Creatures (as "Neville"), The Dish (as "the Prime Minister"), Oscar and Lucinda (as "Percy Smith") and Singularity.

Honours
Brown was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia (AM) in the Australia Day Honours 2011.

Awards
Brown received an Honorary Doctorate of Letters from the University of Queensland.

Death
Brown died from bowel cancer on 13 January 2013, two days after his 61st birthday. After a private funeral, a public memorial service was held at the Queensland Performing Arts Centre on 4 February 2013. The eulogy was delivered by longtime friend and colleague Geoffrey Rush.

Film credits

 * Fierce Creatures (1997) - Neville Coltrane
 * Oscar and Lucinda (1997) - Percy Smith
 * Passion (1999) - John Grainger
 * Walk the Talk (2000) - Barry
 * The Dish (2000) - Prime Minister
 * Serenades (2001) - Pastor Hoffman
 * The Man Who Sued God (2001) - Gerry Ryan
 * Black and White (2002) - Sir Thomas Playford
 * Dirty Deeds (2002) - Senator
 * Curtin (2007) - Robert Menzies
 * Unfinished Sky (2007) - Bob Potter
 * Dying Breed (2008) - Harvey / Rowan
 * At World's End (2009) - James Hall
 * The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (2010) - Coriakin
 * The Eye of the Storm (2011) - Dudley
 * Killer Elite (2011) - Colonel Fitz
 * Singularity (2013) - Egerton (final film role)

Television

 * Medivac (1997) - Prosecutor
 * A Difficult Woman (1998) - Howard
 * Big Sky (1999) - Lightfoot
 * The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (1999) - Hinkel
 * The Farm (2001) - Booth
 * Bad Cop, Bad Cop (2002) - Detective 'Blue' Wales
 * White Collar Blue (2003) - Tony Heron
 * Blackjack (2005) - Tez Miller
 * The Hollowmen (2008) - Senator Ron Engels
 * All Saints (2000-09) - Steve Coulter / Bill Lewis
 * Heartbeat (2009) - Sergeant Flaherty
 * 3 Acts of Murder (2009) - George Ritchie
 * Wild Boys (2011) - Booth
 * Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (2012) - Bart Tarrant
 * The Kennedys
 * Rake (2012) - Dominic Rose

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Talk:Overdetermination

down to earth
I am not in a position to add or correct this entry; as it stands is wholly obscure and probably useless to those who don't already know what "overdetermination" is. A down-to-earth rewrite would be in order. Ben.

I likewise think that this article is fairly "obscure" (although I wouldn't go quite so far as to call it "wholly obscure") and in serious need of revision. I think part of the article's obscurity results from the fact that each of the sections says virutally nothing about what overdetermination is in that section's specific context; the only exception is the section on Althusser, which still needs much more expansion and development. To be honest, the concept--if it can even be referred to as one concept--of overdetermination probably deserves separate articles concerning its use in Freud, Althusser, Baudrillard, etc. Job L 06:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

This article needs to be revised to include an analytic philosophical meaning of overdetermination. Dialogic 14:55, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

 * I was not aware that the concept had a use in analytic philosophy, but if it indeed does, then I wholly concur with Dialogic. Job L 16:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

- The section on Baudrillard needs to be expanded by a specialist on the subject. The article says he draws on Althusser but breaks with him in important ways, but doesn't say how he breaks with him or what his new definition of 'overdetermination' is. Zorba the Geek (talk) 22:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The section on Baudrillard might as well be removed, as per above. The portion on Althusser after the quotation from "Reading Capital" is almost impossible to understand due to its terrible grammar: "instances that are more really, slight, understandable" is gibberish, and the "[concealed/unaccepted]" part is alien because I have no idea how to interpret brackets in this, as well as the fact that one could interpret concealed as either a verb or an adjective here. -Phette23 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phette23 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I come from a mathematics background. In mathematics, over-determination is a relatively straightforward concept. Specifically, assume something that is described by a set of equations, each with several variables. Over-determination just means that two or more equations say the same thing, so that a specific point solution can't be found. As a simple example, consider the tow equations:

2x + 2y = 4 4x + 4y = 8

Although there are two equations in two unknowns, no specific point values for x and y can be determined, because one equation is proportional to the other: one of the equations is superfluous; the "system of equations" is "over-determined.

I suspect what this means in the field of psychology is that two or more statements about reality are equivalent: one is a scaled version of the other. PictouGene, 1 September 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by PictouGene (talk • contribs) 12:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC) __________ "Thus, for Althusser's reiterating of Marxist thought, overdetermination is what [concealed/unaccepted] "determinant contradictions", or capital-economic incongruities (i.e., abstract labour resulting in "isolation" -- the class struggle), which are analogous to Freud's "potent thoughts", apply to instances that are more really, slight, understandable." <-- This is the worst sentence in the history of language. The person who wrote it should be shot.

 * I deleted the sentence. No need to shoot anyone. Bhny (talk) 03:10, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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An instance of a popular riot calling for revolution could exemplify overdetermination. The event has to it, in capitalist culture, an over-application (determination) of agitation. The determinant contradictions (the reasons for popular revolt) are not addressed and so their great mass is "displaced" onto the singular event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.68.252 (talk) 07:28, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Überdeterminierung/Überbestimmung
The parenthesis on Freud says he uses "Überdeterminierung" where we translate overdetermination. It's been a while since I read Freud auf Deutsch, but I'm pretty sure he says "Überbestimmung" more often than -determinierung... no? Any Freudians with a copy of the Gesammelte Werke in PDF who can do a quick search?

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Children's clothing

Children's clothing or kids' clothing is clothing for children who have not yet grown to full height. Children's clothing is often more casual than adult clothing, fit for play and rest.

In the early 21st century, however, childrenswear became heavily influenced by trends in adult fashion. Grandma bait is a retail industry term for expensive children's clothing. Due to the rise of social media platforms such as Instagram, celebrities and fashion bloggers have been using their accounts to post pictures of their children wearing luxury "street style" clothing, thus inspiring parents to dress their children as they would dress themselves. Good quality, well-designed garments are a priority for some parents, and children's clothing is getting a prime place in top-label stores and high-end fashion retail outlets. Clothes are also getting separately designed for boys and girls at a very early age.

History
Childhood is distinct from certain parameters in all societies, from infancy to adolescence; societal expectations about children's abilities, limitations, and how they look are present at all stages of their development. In every era, clothing plays an important role in the "look" of childhood. An overview of the history of children's clothing reveals changes.

Early children's clothing

Children, regardless of gender, shared styles and cuts before the twentieth century. From the sixteenth to the twentieth centuries, both men and women wore gowns, tunics, and robes. The gown became a thing for women, newborns, and toddlers only after men's attire evolved into two-piece clothes, shirts, and breeches. Children's styles evolved from gowns to adult garments as they grew older.

Gowns for women and babies
Swaddling was popular for a short period, but ankle-length white frocks and slip skirts for babies and crawling toddlers were popular around the 1500s since women wore ultra-fine muslin and chemise dresses in the 1700s, which looked remarkably similar to the attire worn by young children since the middle of the century. Children's gowns were given additional accessories like waist belts as kid's fashion grew.

Another look that gave the ideal example of women's neoclassical fashion was this one. Most women, girls, and toddler boys wore garments made of lightweight fabrics like silk or cotton during the 1800s.

Girls' dresses

While men's clothes changed dramatically as they grew older in the nineteenth century, girls' dresses stayed relatively unchanged. Women's attire did not alter much in terms of cut or stylistic detail, from their birth robes to the skirted outfits they wore their entire lives. The fundamental distinction between children's and women's fashion was that the length of the dress steadily increased, eventually reaching the floor by mid-adolescence.

Function
Function and design must meet at the right proportions in children's clothes for them to be popular and accepted. Fabric choices, openings and fastenings, fit and ease, and trimmings used are all major considerations when designing children's wear. Some other factors a designer designing for children's clothing should focus on are the changing shape of the growing kid and different proportions of the different parts of the body.

Leisurewear and sportswear are two very prominent design styles in children's clothing. School uniforms are another type of specialized clothes for children.

Sizes
American sizes for baby clothes are usually based on the child's weight. European sizes are usually based on the child's height. These may be expressed as an estimated age of the child, e.g., size 6 months (or 3–6 months) is expected to fit a child 61 to 67 cm in height and 5.7 to 7.5 kg in weight.

Children's clothing is also sometimes worn by adults who are very short.

Children's clothing and gender

Gender-specific clothing for young children was rare throughout most of history, for purely practical reasons. This included both the type of clothing and the color. Before birth, the parents did not know whether the baby would be a boy or girl; white clothes were easier to clean; and less clothing was needed, since all of it could be used for any baby, instead of parents feeling like they should buy or make a full set of pink dresses for one baby and then a full set of blue overalls for the next baby.

Before the 1940s, young boys and girls alike wore short dresses. In the US, during the 1940s and 1950s, boys were dressed like their fathers, which meant shirts and trousers and the same colors that their fathers wore. From the mid-1960s through the mid-1980s, the fashion for American girls was unisex clothing, such as jeans and T-shirts. Thus American fashion transitioned from having both boys and girls frequently wear dresses in the 19th century to having neither always wearing dresses by the 1970s.

Gender-specific colors emerged in the middle of the 20th century. Clothing was expensive, and white clothes could be bleached when they became dirty. Consequently, colored clothes were not used for babies until the Victorian era, and at that time, any child could be dressed in any color. The color code of using pink primarily for girls' clothes and blue primarily for boys' clothes did not appear until the 1940s onwards. In fact, in the first part of the 20th century, light blue clothes were recommended for American girls, as being the more "delicate and dainty" color, and pink was recommended for boys because it was the "stronger color". Other color-coding schemes recommended that the colors be selected to coordinate with the child's hair or eye color, with blue being recommended for blond hair or blue eyes.

Children's clothing in the English-speaking world has become increasingly segregated, with young girls especially being expected to wear pink. Peggy Orenstein writes in her book, Cinderella Ate My Daughter, that pink-coloured and princess-themed clothes are almost ubiquitous for young girls in shops in the United States. She sees this as problematic because it limits girls to not only one colour, but also to one spectrum of experience, and it "firmly fuses girls' identity to appearance." In reaction to this situation, a campaign group Pinkstinks was formed in the UK in 2008 to raise awareness of the gender stereotyping of children. Further, clothing companies have started to sell clothes that are unisex or gender-neutral, such as the Swedish company Polarn O. Pyret, while others have been founded specifically to offer such items, such as Tootsa MacGinty.

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Cedar Park High School

Cedar Park High School (CPHS) is a high school in Cedar Park, Texas. It was established in 1998 to serve as the second high school in the Leander Independent School District due to the rapid growth in the area.

The school's mascot is the Timberwolf, and the colors of CPHS are Forest Green, Silver, and Black. Cedar Park High School competes in UIL district.

Demographics
The demographic breakdown of the 2,081 students enrolled for the 2022-2023 school year was:

 * Male - 50%
 * Female - 50%
 * White - 64.0%
 * Hispanic - 20.9%
 * Asian - 8.0%
 * Two or More Races - 4.3%
 * Black - 2.4%
 * American Indian/Alaska Native - 0.3%
 * Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander - 0.1%

Football
For the most part of the early Cedar Park dynasty runs of the early 2010s, Cedar Park was considered a perennial powerhouse in the Austin area and around Texas. Cedar Park has made the playoffs every year since 2008 and has won Two UIL Football State Championships. Cedar Park is the only school in Leander Independent School District to win a UIL Football State Championship. The Cedar Park Football Team plays at John Gupton Stadium, in Cedar Park, Texas.

For the 2009 football season under Head Coach Chris Ross, the Cedar Park Timberwolves football team competed in the 16-5A district. They were District Champions. They were also District Champions in the 2010 season.

In 2012 Cedar Park hired Joe Willis as their new head coach. The team was the 2012 UIL 4A (Division 2) state finalist. After the final playoff game on December 21, 2012, Cedar Park became the 2012 State Champions.

In 2014, Cedar Park went to the state championship once (in UIL 5A division 2) again and became runner-up in the state. After an undefeated season and playoff run,

In 2015, Cedar Park hired Carl Abseck as their new head coach. On December 19, 2015, CPHS won their second state title defeating Frisco Lone Star 22–6.

In 2020, Cedar Park went to the UIL 5A Division 1 state championship and became runner-up in the state losing to Denton Ryan 41-10.

2021, Carl Abseck was hired by Barbers Hill High School. Cedar Park was 71-10 under Abseck.

In 2021, Cedar Park hired Michael Quintero who previously served as Red Oak High School (Texas) Football Head Coach for 1 year. In Quintero's first year as head coach, Cedar Park went 7-6 and would lose in the playoffs to Paetow.

In 2022, Cedar Park went 4-7 losing to Smithson Valley High School in the Bi-District Playoff Football Game.

In 2023, Cedar Park started off the season 4-1 before losing two straight. They finished the regular season 8-3. Cedar Park would end up losing to A&M Consolidated High School in the Regional Finals ending the season 9-4.

As of 2024, Cedar Park is 18-15 and with 2-2 record in the playoff under Head Coach Michael Quintero.

Baseball
The Cedar Park Timberwolf Baseball Team has made the playoffs every year since 2013 (with the exception of 2020). Cedar Park has been a consistent playoff team throughout the 2010s.

In 2023 Cedar Park hired Tyler Frost as their new Baseball Head Coach/Manager. Cedar Park went 25-13-2 and made the playoffs. Cedar Park was the 5A Region IV Area Champs. Cedar Park would lose in the Regional Quarter Finals against Rouse High School 9-8 in a Rouse comeback.

In 2024 Cedar Park went 28-8-2 under Coach Frost. Cedar Park made the UIL 2024 Baseball 5A Playoffs. Cedar Park beating Pieper 2-0 and Medina Valley 2-0 before losing again to Rouse in the Regional Quarter Finals 0-2. Following the season, Head Baseball Coach Tyler Frost announced he would be stepping down as Cedar Park's Head Baseball Coach.

Boys' basketball
The Cedar Park Timberwolves Boys' Basketball Team led by Head Coach Blake Brown has had Ten Straight Post Season Appearances, Three District Championships, and Two Appearances in the UIL Boys State Basketball Tournament.

In the 2014–2015 season, the boys became the champions of District 25-AAAAA with a district record of 13–1. They made a run through the UIL playoffs that ended in the state semi-finals on March 12, 2015, in the Alamodome with a 57–46 loss to Beaumont Ozen. They ended the best season in school history with an overall record of 28–7.

In 2018, Cedar Park were the 5A Region III District 17 Champions Regional Quarterfinals. Cedar Park would lose to Manor in the playoffs 46-41.

In 2019, Cedar Park were the 5A Region III District 17 Champions Area. Cedar Park would lose to Lake Creek in the playoffs 52-44.

Cedar Park has failed to make the playoffs from 2020-2022.

In 2023, Cedar Park went 19-14 in the regular season and making the playoffs for the first time in 3 years. Cedar Park would up losing in the Bi-District Playoffs 52-33 to Boerne-Champion High School.

Girls' basketball
The Cedar Park Girls Basketball Team had a short-lived dynasty run under Donny Ott. The girls' 2014-2015 basketball team tied the Georgetown Eagles for a second-place spot in district 25-A. That marked their 9th consecutive year to advance to playoffs. The Lady Wolves made it to the 3rd round, right before the regional tournament, to once again face the Georgetown Eagles. The Wolves took a tough loss by three points to end the season.

In 2017, Cedar Park hired Donny Ott as their new Girls' Basketball Head Coach. In Ott first year, Cedar Park in 1st in the District going 16-0, and 30-8 overall. Cedar Park made the playoffs put would lose to Crosby High School (Texas) 53-47 in the playoffs.

In 2018 and 2019, Cedar Park had successful in both years season but would fall short in the playoffs.

In the 2020-2021 season, the Lady Timberwolves led by Donny Ott and Texas Commit Gisella Maul, won the 5A state championship, beating Frisco Liberty 46-39. This was the first time Leander Independent School District sent a girls' basketball team to the state tournament. The following year, the team won the 5A state championship again, beating Frisco Memorial 45-40 in double overtime. The girls had a 62-game winning streak and were the first Austin-area team to have a perfect season.

In 2022, Cedar Park had its worst season under Ott tenure. The Lady Timberwolves did not win a playoff game.

In 2023, Donny Ott was hired by Summer Creek High School. Ott amassed a 157-17 overall record with a 68-0 district record, 4 regional tournament appearances in 5 years, 22-3 playoff record, and 2 Class 5A State UIL Championships, Back to Back accomplishments during the 2020-2021 and 2021-2022 seasons. Coach Ott and his staff have received District Coach of the Year honors, Central Texas Coach of the Year honors, TGCA and TABC Coach of the Year honors as well as the Sectional National Coach of the Year during the 2021-2022.

In 2023, Cedar Park hired long time Assistant Head Coach of the Lady Timberwolves under Donny Ott, Kami Williamson. She became the Female 5A/6A Coach of the Year and led her team to the UIL Texas State Tournament. The Lady T-Wolves lost in the semi-finals to Mansfield Timberview capping off a storybook season. In their playoff run they defeated Liberty Hill HS (2nd in district) and Glenn HS (1st in district) to advance to the state tournament.

Marching band
For over 25 years, the Cedar Park High School Timberwolf Marching Band has been "moving and inspiring" audiences around the nation. Cedar Park High School Timberwolf Marching Band have made many national appearances which include Bands of America (BOA) Grand Nationals, University Interscholastic League (UIL) Marching Contest, and many more competition. The Cedar Park Timberwolves Marching Band dynasty runs has lasted for well over 2 decades and has no plans of stopping anytime soon. Cedar Park Timberwolves Marching Band has won 7 State Titles which tied second in the state of Texas for most Marching Band State Titles every won.

Most of the Cedar Park High School Timberwolf Marching Band success came under the direction of Director of Bands Steve Wessels. During his tenure at Cedar Park, the band won UIL 4A / 5A State Marching Contest in 2001, 2011, 2015, 2017, and 2019, UIL 5A Silver 2004, UIL 4A Silver 2013, BOA Grand Nationals Finalist 2010 and 2016, The Sudler Shield 2007, Numerous Marching Festival Championships, Concert Music Festivals Championships, UIL Concert & Sight Reading First Divisions all years, and TMEA Honor Band finalist 4A / 5A 2002, 2007, 2012, 2018 and 2014 TMEA Honor Band, 2018 Texas Bandmasters Association Meritorious Achievement Award, 2020 Texas Bandmasters Association Exemplary Band Award to Cedar Park High School, Steve Wessels Director. Steve retired in 2020, completing thirty-four years as a Texas Music Educator. In 2020 Christopher Yee was named Director of Bands at Cedar Park High School.

The Timberwolf Band has been a finalist at UIL State and Bands Of America Regional and Super Regional marching band competitions. The band is also a two-time Bands of America Marching Band Grand National Championships Finalist, placing 10th in 2010 and 5th in 2016. The Cedar Park High School Timberwolf Band was crowned the 2001 UIL State 4A Marching Band Champion and also in 2011. In 2013, the band was awarded the silver medal at the UIL 4A State Competition. In 2015, 2017, 2019, 2021, and 2023, the band was crowned the UIL 5A State Marching Band Champion. The Cedar Park High School Percussion has won multiple Lonestar Classic "State Championships," including 2011 and 2017. The Color Guard has won 1st place in the 2011 Texas Color Guard Circuit State Championship. The band won their first Bands of America Championship title in 2021 at that year's BOA Waco competition. The band is a two-time participant and finalist at the Bands of America Grand National Championships.

It was announced in 2024 that The Cedar Park HS Timberwolf Band are heading to Bands of America Grand Nationals in 2024 at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis

Cross country
The Cedar Park Timberwolves boys' cross country running team took eighth place at the 2008 Nike Cross National championships and were ranked number 1 in the nation for boys' cross country as of Oct. 2, 2009. The boys' team won state in 2010.

Boys' lacrosse
The Cedar Park Timberwolves boys' 2008 team posted a 7-0 district record and went 16-2 overall. The team made it to the state championship weekend falling to eventual champion, Highland Park, 10-8 in the state semifinal.

Robotics
Cedar Park High School is home to FIRST Robotics Competition team 5052 and FIRST Tech Challenge team 14361. The team was started in 2014 and has gone to world championships. Team 14361 was founded in 2018. The following year won Innovate 1 for GEMS league and Central Texas league. Also 5A UIL State champions and FTC Texas State Control 1 winners. WORLDS JEM, 11-0 Qualifiers, Captain of Seed 1: 17962 Ro2D2, 14503 Robo-Sapiens.

Journalism
Cedar Park High School's online newspaper, The Wolfpack, was ranked #8 for Distinguished Sites by School Newspapers Online with a total of 33 articles listed on Best of Sno in 2019. The Tracks yearbook and CPHS News Broadcast each received Bronze Stars in the 2022 ILPC ratings. In addition, the school's journalism programs have been recognized multiple times for UIL student leader awards, including Producer of the Year, Yearbook Editor of the Year, and twice for Online Newspaper Editor of the Year.

UIL Academics
The school competes in UIL Academics District 25 in speech & debate, social studies, literature, journalism, and STEM competitions. Cedar Park was the district champion team in 2022, and third at the regional meet and fourth at the state meet. The school also won the journalism team state championship in 2022. During the 2023 season, Cedar Park was the district champion team, as well as the regional champion team. As for State, Cedar Park was the third place team, though Cedar Park Social Studies team was second in the State Social Studies competition.

Notable alumni

 * Chris Paddack – Major League Baseball player.
 * Spencer Drango - National Football League player.
 * Ronja Bosy - Singing artist and featured competitor on Season 8 of The Voice (Norway).
 * Mason Brooks - National Football League player.
 * Levi Bell - National Football League player.
 * Tyler Lavine - former running back for SMU Mustangs football
 * Josh Cameron- Wide receiver for Baylor Bear Football
 * Ronnie Caldwell- Collegiate football player for Northwestern State Demons football
 * Hunter Luke- Collegiate football player for Kansas Jayhawk Football
 * Jack Hestera- Collegiate football player for Colorado Buffaloes Football & Charlotte 49ers Football & Utah State Aggies Football

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Addendum
Among other things: - James Bond, Gibbs and Darth Vader are all more hardcore than Rambo. - Mace Windu is badly overrated - Nothing says 'emo' like 'emoticons'; or, more specifically, Pao

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Kaghan Valley

The Kaghan Valley (Hindko, ) is an alpine valley in Balakot Tehsil, Mansehra District of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. The valley stretches 155 km across northern Pakistan, rising from its lowest elevation of 2134 ft to its highest point at the Babusar Pass around 13690 ft. Landslides triggered by the devastating 2005 Kashmir earthquake destroyed many passes leading into the valley, though roads have since been rebuilt. Kaghan is a popular tourist attraction in Pakistan.

Geography
The Kaghan Valley is located in the Hazara region of Pakistan, and borders the Pakistani-administered territories of Gilgit-Baltistan and Azad Jammu and Kashmir to the north and east, respectively. The 155-kilometre-long valley is enveloped by the Lower Himalayan mountain range, resulting in an alpine climate and the prevalence of pine forests and alpine meadows. Alongside the flow of the Kunhar River, the valley features glaciers, crystal-like clear lakes, waterfalls and frosty mountain streams. The Kaghan is known for its scenery and landscapes, resulting in its popularity as a summertime resort amongst locals and tourists alike.

History : Kaghan valley is considered to be a jewel amongst the beautiful valleys of the Mansehra district in Pakistan. Most of the Syed family,Pathan Khan,Durrani(Jadoon)families & Mughal,Swati & Gujjer Family are settled here from their ancestors.

Access
The Kaghan Valley can be reached by road via Balakot through Mansehra and Abbottabad. In Balakot, public buses and other vehicular transport can be used to travel to the valley. Additionally, the Kaghan Valley can also be reached from Peshawar or the national capital of Islamabad by renting a car to Abbottabad or Mansehra; tourists can then order a taxi or other available methods of public transport to go to the valley.

The valley is always accessible during the summer and closed to visitors during winter. This is because glaciers block the roads leading to the Kaghan during winter, although these glaciers typically melt between February and April. From May to the end of September, the roads and Babusar Pass remain open. In May, temperatures can reach up to 11 C and stoop as low as 3 C.

Folk tale of Lalazar
The folk tale of Lala Afghani and Sohni (Lalazar) is intricately linked to the romantic saga of an Afghan youth named Lala and a local maiden named Sohni. Rooted in the cultural fabric of the region, this narrative unfolds as Lala, while passing through the village, becomes enamored with Sohni. However, societal disapproval prevails, leading to the tragic demise of the young man at the hands of the local community.

The site of Lala's sacrifice has since gained renown as Lalazar, with "Zar" signifying the location where Lala made the ultimate sacrifice for his love. Notably, the adjacent forest is christened Sohni da Banr, translating to the forest of Sohni.

In contemporary times, Lalazar has evolved into a well-known village, emerging as a burgeoning tourist destination within the Kaghan valley. Simultaneously, Sohni da Banr retains its prominence as a distinguished forest in the area, preserving the essence of the timeless tale of Lala Afghani and Sohni. The rich cultural heritage associated with Lalazar continues to attract visitors, offering a glimpse into the enduring allure of this captivating narrative.

Folk tale of Munshi and Darshi (Paras)
The romantic saga of Munshi and Darshi (Paras) unfolds against the backdrop of a renowned village called Paras in the Kaghan Valley. During the British colonial era, Munshi, employed as a worker for a company, toiled in the local forest. It was here that he became entangled in a love affair with Darshi, a girl from the community. The clandestine meetings of Munshi and Darshi became the talk of the town, with their love story gaining prominence in the region.

However, societal resistance prevailed, and Munshi faced rejection from the locals, ultimately meeting a tragic end at their hands. The site of this fateful event garnered fame as Darshi da Banr, signifying the forest of Darshi. This woodland has since become a popular destination within the valley, celebrated for its breathtaking beauty, diverse wildlife, and suitability for hiking adventures.

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User talk:Whobot/Archive

August 2005
Regarding this edit.. if this user is a bot as the name suggests, then something seems to be broken, otherwise: Please do not replace Wikipedia pages with blank content. Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. If it is a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If the page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! --Mysidia (talk) 00:33, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Yea, I appologize for that. I was attempting to change the bot code not to use the Interwiki-category-check for now. I ran it on the one article to make sure it wouldn't mess up, as such I immediately fixed the article and the error. Thanks.   ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  01:02, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

September 2005
This is not a huge deal, but in at least one instance (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=U.S._Cellular&diff=prev&oldid=24049529), Whobot has moved a stub tag under the list of categories. I may be mistaken, but I had thought that we did things the other way around. NatusRoma 04:05, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Yea, the idea is that when showing the categories, the stub cat is listed after the encyclopedic cats. It is really personal preference, but this is the way that I do it along with Pearle (the bot Whobot is cloned from). ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  04:13, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

October 2005
I don't really understand what this bot does, and frankly I don't care much, except that it is exceedingly irritating for those of us who write content to have it mangled by ignorant automata. Recently your bot changed a category for Anchor Exchange from 'Places of interest in Birmingham' to 'Visitor attractions in Birmingham', despite the fact that Anchor exchange could not be considered by any stretch of the imagination a 'visitor attraction'. Those of us who watch the page and know about the subject could have pointed this out, but for the fact that we had no way of knowing about the impending category change. The first I heard of it is when the page was modified after the period for discusion had closed. It would be much more useful if your bot could put a warning on the page at the beginning of the period of discussion and not just at the end of it. Spliced 11:09, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * First I would like to ask you to please visit WP:CIVIL. Secondly, each category is tagged with a similiar tag of cfd, my bot would not move categories that were not tagged with such. As the one who deleted the category, I know for a fact that it was so tagged. Bots, specifically Whobot, run automated tasks based solely off of discussions closed on WP:CFD, I appologize for you not being able to make the discussion in time, however, this does not give you the right to unilatterly change decisions that the community has already decided on. All this bot does is move articles from one category to another, among related tasks, it is not a human and mis-categorization is not an issue with CFD or the bot.  If you feel articles are not categorized properly, before or after a CFD change, Be bold! and make the change, but do not blame other users for changes that you have a problem with. We all work together to make this project better, and this is what my bot helps with, moving the hundreds of thousands of articles that the majority of users have no interest in doing.  I invite you to also join us in CFD, occasionally, and assist in the discussions and re-categorizations for the better of Wikipedia. Thank you.  ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  13:00, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry if I was (and still am) a little terse, but it's bad enough having content butchered by fools. Having bots do it too is the last straw. It isn't sufficient for the category to be tagged. If the category is to be changed, then every article within that category needs to carry a warning too, otherwise the articles' page-watchers, who form the best-informed part of the community in relation to these articles, won't see it. Most wikipedians are interested in writing *content*, not second-guessing people who faff about with meta-stuff like categories. IMHO, "Be Bold!" is really bad advice. "Be careful!" and "Be accurate!" would be wiser recommendations. Still, don't worry, I'm sufficiently pissed off that I won't be bothering wikipedia with my presence for the forseeable future. Bye! Spliced 14:14, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * It is near impossible to tag the 1000's of articles listed in categories as they are nominated for change. If you wish to watch certain categories, or participate more on WP:CFD or Cfd talk, then you maybe further informed. ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  03:06, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

house of anjou
where can one find any mention of moving "House of Plantagenet" to "House of Anjou"?

The "whobot" is busy switching people from the "House of Plantagenet" category to a "House of Anjou" category, referencing the categories for deletion page. Yet I cannot find any discussion of this rather peculiar choice there. Where can one find any mention of moving "House of Plantagenet" to "House of Anjou"? Did it occur to no one that "House of Plantagenet" is a subset of the First "House of Anjou" and that Plantagenet kings are usually referred to as Plantagenets, or, if referencing their connection to France, an "Angevin Dynasty"? We shouldn't be needlessly confusing, and we should use the more specific category. - Nunh-huh 23:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I appologize I did not see this message sooner, as you may have seen, User:Splash responded on both my talk page and Wikipedia talk:Categories for deletion. ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  04:19, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Haxed
I think you should make this an anti vandal bot ;-) R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 04:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Hehe, having enough trouble getting Meta to mark any enwiki bots with flags at the moment. :) I may add some functionality to it, talk to Curps and see what they are using, perl or python.  ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  01:51, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

What happened to Category:Basque symbols?
I find that Basque symbols has been moved to Category:Basque cultural icons with a note by User:Whobot of Cleanup per WP:CFD (moving Category:Basque_symbols to Category:Basque_cultural_icons)) but I don't find anything about it in 2005-08-03. --Error 00:15, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, I manually add the date to the list the bot runs, It should have been 1 Oct. Here is the cfd log. ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  00:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

November 2005
If you are going to change the names of categories on my user page, please put the new categories back in the same order that you found the old ones in. Thanks, -Arctic.gnome 06:32, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

This is a automated to all bot operators
Please take a few moments and fill in the data for your bot on Bots/Status Thank you Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 19:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Automated message to bot owners
As a result of discussion on the village pump and mailing list, bots are now allowed to edit up to 15 times per minute. The following is the new text regarding bot edit rates from Bot Policy: "Until new bots are accepted they should wait 30-60 seconds between edits, so as to not clog the recent changes list and user watchlists. After being accepted and a bureaucrat has marked them as a bot, they can edit at a much faster pace. Bots doing non-urgent tasks should edit approximately once every ten seconds, while bots who would benefit from faster editing may edit approximately once every every four seconds." Also, to eliminate the need to spam the bot talk pages, please add Bot owners' noticeboard to your watchlist. Future messages which affect bot owners will be posted there. Thank you. --Mets501 05:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Fellows of the Royal Society of Arts
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Categories for discussion nomination of Category:British professional bodies
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Category:Hypergiant stars
Category:Hypergiant stars, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 20:09, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Category:United Kingdom Parliamentary constituencies
Category:United Kingdom Parliamentary constituencies, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:41, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

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User talk:Oyesiji

Jubril Oyesiji is a software Developer living in Maryland. He develops programs using C++, Java. in his free time he loves playing Chess

Ibrahim Babangida
Your recent contribution to the Wikipedia article Ibrahim Babangida is very much appreciated. However, you did not provide references or sources in the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and as you might be aware there is currently a push to improve the quality of Wikipedia by encouraging editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. Can you provide in the article specific references to any books, articles, websites or other reliable sources that will allow people to verify the content in Ibrahim Babangida? You can use a citation method listed at inline citations that best suits this article. Thanks!

--  Netsnipe  ►  18:25, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KORNET Jazz Club

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD✉ 03:39, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

KORNET Jazz Club
Advertise of nn club. 202.156.6.61 01:39, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Delete per nom Ad --JAranda | yeah 02:08, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

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Coronda

Coronda is a small city in the. It is located in the San Jerónimo Department, 43 km south from the provincial capital (Santa Fe). It has a population of about 18,000 inhabitants.

The town was founded in 1867 by Governor Nicasio Oroño, and became a city on 6 February 1860.

Its parish church was designed by Carlo Zucchi.

Notable people

 * Carlota Garrido de la Peña (1870-1958), journalist, writer, teacher

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User talk:Diana Elgar

Please stop adding external links to List of Australians in international prisons; also, messages about vandalism are not appropriate for the article page (neither is calling my edits vandalism, at that). --fvw *  01:40, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Please review the history of the Stephen Sutton entry. You will see then why I have made the notation regarding vandalism. In context, your reverts are indeed vandalism. Please leave the article alone!

 * There may well have been vandalism, but the article itsself is not the place to mention this. Regarding the link: Wikipedia is not a web directory; the external link may be appropriate for the article about the person in question, but not on the list. --fvw *  01:48, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

List of Australians in foreign prisons
Hi Fvw, please review the history of the cited page and the Stephen Sutton material in particular. A link to Sutton's own page is appropriate for an encyclopaedic entry about Sutton, but links to unrelated sites, specifically http://foreignprisoners.com is not.

Removing valid and pertinent information from a Wikipedia entry is indeed vandalism. Please leave the link to Sutton's own site, set up by his sister Ann Cluse (http://stephensutton.com) intact. I will agree to removal of the information regarding the Page Protection request, but the link to the site set up by Stephen's sister is appropriate.

thanks, Diana Elgar

 * Wikipedia is not a web directory, nor is it a soapbox to promote your views from. The web link is inappropriate in the list of prisoners article. --fvw *  01:54, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll agree to removal of the notations in the entry itself about the problems with vandalism. However, the link to the site set up by Sutton's sister (http://stephensutton.com) is appropriate for an encyclopaedic entry about Sutton. It contains specific information which is too in-depth for a Wikipedia entry, but is useful for anyone seeking further information about the matter.

thanks, Diana Elgar

3RR Violation
I have blocked Fvw and you for 24 hours for your 3RR violation here. Please in the future do not edit war. Thanks, R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 02:09, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Redwolf24, thank you for intervening on this matter. I have been looking through Wikipedia for references on the basis for including external links in a Wikipedia entry, without success. Of course, I believe that a link to Sutton's own website is appropriate for an encyclopaedic entry about him. If you can direct me to Wikipedia policy on external links, I would be very grateful. thanks, Diana Elgar

 * There a lot of places (and I can't remember which place mentions it specifically), but I'd read the manual of style WP:MoS. Remember that if an admin like Fvw reverts you like that to think twice - also just don't blindly revert, try to comprise, please! Ryan Norton T 02:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Ryan, thank you for your comment. I will look through the link you've provided. I have tried to compromise on the material included in the Sutton article, but perhaps not quickly enough. I regret my error. thanks, Diana Elgar

I have done a bit of Wikiresearch on external links and came up with the following information. On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links it says:

"What should be linked to

1. Official sites should be added to the page of any organization, person, or other entity that has an official site."

http://stephensutton.com qualifies as an official site. It was put online by Sutton's sister, Ann Cluse, and was done so with the express knowledge and consent of Stephen Sutton himself.

If one does a WHOIS on stephensutton.com, the following information is displayed:

Domain name: stephensutton.com

Registrant Contact: stephensutton.com Kathryn Gibbons ***************@HOTMAIL.COM)  08 83819761   Fax: 08 83819761   110A Windebanks Road   Adelaide, South Australia 5159   AU

Kathyrn (Kate) Gibbons did the physical job of purchasing the web hosting service for stephensutton.com and maintains the body text content, specifically on the request of Ann Cluse. Ann Cluse asserts copyright to and thus ownership of the material on stephensutton.com - see the copyright notation on the footer of every page on that site. There is no question that this site is thus 'official,' and contains authoritative information from the principals.

I believe I have made a good case for the inclusion of a link in the Stephen Sutton entry to http://stephensutton.com on the basis of the official nature of the site and Wikipedia's policies for inclusion of official links. I would very much appreciate someone adding this link to the entry.

thanks --Diana Elgar 02:55, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

That means that the site should be added to her page on the wiki. However, this is a LIST, not her page! So if you really want to what you need to do is
 * A) Make a seperate page for Stephen John Sutton
 * B) In your FIRST edit on that page, state WHY he/she is notable, otherwise it will be deleted outright
 * C) Make an external links section and add your link to that

Hopefully that makes sense :) Ryan Norton T 03:04, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Hopefully that wasn't mean :) - take care! Ryan Norton T 03:08, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Ryan, thank you for taking the time to discuss this matter and help me with correctly entering the information to Wikipedia. When I am unbanned, I will set about creating a proper entry with a proper link. Thanks again for your assistance. --Diana Elgar 03:10, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Unblocking early
As a first offense, and as one of you is a respected admin and the other is a newbie, I have unblocked you early. Please do not edit war and discuss things on article and user talk pages instead. Thanks you two and enjoy. R e  dwolf24  (talk) 03:30, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Redwolf24, thank you very much for your leniency. I appreciate your help. cheers, --Diana Elgar 03:50, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

g'day!
Hello there, Diana Elgar (interesting username, by the way). I notice nobody seems to have welcomed you, yet. Well, it's not very nice to go your first month on Wikipedia with the only comments on your talkpage being nasty ones, is it? Everybody gets a welcome!

Welcome!

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
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By the way, you might like to check out Australian Wikipedians' notice board. --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 09:51, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the links, Mark. No, my first month here hasn't been stellar, but I think the problems are going away. cheers, --Diana Elgar 03:53, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

I can't believe I can slip this in!

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User talk:Omnihisoka

Some hardcore person who always speaks japanese. Originally from Taiwan and then went to Hong Kong to meet tomboys(lesbians). IN the past he liked old (senior) japanese teachers of his. Occasionally he thinks that he is Naruto! blahblah nojutsu!. what a loser...

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Modelmotion

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. – ABCD✉ 03:40, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Modelmotion
nn site. 202.156.6.61 01:41, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Google search on what links to "modelmotion.com" gave 0 hits.  Jkelly 02:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom.  Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk  06:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. utcursch | talk 07:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete WP is not a promotional tool Qaz  ( talk ) 08:15, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. *drew 13:02, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

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Charles F. Dowd

Charles F. Dowd (1825–1904) was a co-principal (with his wife Harriet M. Dowd) of the Temple Grove Ladies Seminary (now Skidmore College) in Saratoga Springs, New York. He was the first person to propose multiple time zones for any country, those for the railways of the United States. He did not propose their extension to the entire world, which was suggested by the Italian mathematician Quirico Filopanti, and championed by the Canadian engineer Sandford Fleming. About 1863, he first proposed time zones for United States railways to teenage girls whom he was teaching. In 1869, he presented his idea to a committee of railway superintendents in New York. As a result, in 1870 he published a pamphlet entitled "A System of National Time for Railroads" wherein he proposed four time zones, each 15° wide, the time of each being one hour different from the next, named Washington, first, second, and third hours. The central meridian of the first zone was the Washington meridian. The borders of all zones were lines of longitude. In 1872, he modified his proposal so that the first zone was centered on the 75th meridian west of Greenwich, with the others 90°, 105°, and 120° west of Greenwich. Now all had geographic borders, such as the Appalachian Mountains for a portion of the border between the first and second zones.

Except for meridians based on Greenwich, the system adopted by the railroad industry on 18 November 1883 ignored Dowd's proposal. The adopted system by William F. Allen, editor of the Traveler's Official Railway Guide, had borders that passed through railway terminals, even some in major cities, like Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and Charleston—these formed the border between the eastern and central time zones. It included a fifth time zone for eastern Canada, called Intercolonial Time after the Intercolonial Railway serving eastern Canada. Each of these boundary cities had to adopt one of the two railroad zones or continue to use local mean solar time. The 1918 Standard Time Act moved the borders to relatively rural areas.

Dowd died underneath the wheels of a locomotive in Saratoga, New York, in 1904.

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