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1924 Yugoslav Football Championship

The 1924 National Championship (Serbo-Croato-Slovenian: Državno prvenstvo 1924. / Државно првенство 1924.) held in the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes was the second nationwide domestic football competition. At this point there was no league championship in the modern sense as the competition was held in a single-legged cup format, with participating clubs qualifying via regional playoffs organised by regional football subfederations.

Qualified clubs

 * Somborski SK (Subotica Football Subfederation)
 * Građanski Zagreb (Zagreb Football Subfederation)
 * Slavija Osijek (Osijek Football Subfederation)
 * Hajduk Split (Split Football Subfederation)
 * Ilirija Ljubljana (Ljubljana Football Subfederation)
 * SK Jugoslavija Belgrade (Belgrade Football Subfederation)
 * SAŠK Sarajevo (Sarajevo Football Subfederation)

Quarter finals

 * colspan="5" style="background-color:#D0D0D0" align=center|7/8 September 1924
 * colspan="2" rowspan="2" N/A
 * colspan="2" rowspan="2" N/A

 * colspan="2" N/A
 * }

Semi finals

 * colspan="3" style="background-color:#D0D0D0" align=center|21 September 1924
 * colspan="3" style="background-color:#D0D0D0" align=center|21 September 1924

 * }

Finals

 * colspan="3" style="background-color:#D0D0D0" align=center|12 October 1924
 * colspan="3" style="background-color:#D0D0D0" align=center|12 October 1924

Note: The match was played in Zagreb.
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Winning squad
Champions:

SK JUGOSLAVIJA (coach: 🇨🇿 Karel Bláha) Nationality, name, (caps/goals)
 * 🇭🇺 Károly Nemes (3/0)
 * Milutin Ivković (3/0)
 * Branko Petrović (2/0)
 * Mihailo Načević (3/0)
 * Boško Todorić (1/0)
 * Sveta Marković (3/0)
 * Alois Machek (3/0)
 * Damjan Đurić (3/1)
 * Dragan Jovanović (3/4)
 * Stevan Luburić (3/3)
 * Dušan Petković (3/4)
 * Branislav Sekulić (3/0)

Top scorers
Final goalscoring position, number of goals, player/players and club.
 * 1 - 6 goals - Dragan Jovanović (Jugoslavija)
 * 2 - 3 goals - Stevan Luburić (Jugoslavija), Antun Bonačić, Ljubo Benčić, Vinko Radić (all Hajduk Split)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ad Fontes

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The result of the debate was Keep (No consensus). --Ryan Delaney talk 04:12, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Ad Fontes
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Peaks Ice Arena

Peaks Ice Arena is an indoor ice hockey and figure skating arena in Provo, Utah, located 43 mi south of Salt Lake City. Along with the Maverik Center (originally known as the E Center) in West Valley City, it was built as an ice hockey and figure skating practice venue for the 2002 Winter Olympics. It currently serves as the home of the Utah Valley University men’s ice hockey team, Peaks Youth Hockey Association, several high school teams, the Peaks Figure Skating Club, and a Learn-to-Skate USA program for beginning skaters of all ages.

History
Provo was chosen as the site for an Olympic venue because the leaders of Utah County refused to support Utah's 1989 Olympic referendum unless they were promised at least one Olympic event would be held in the county. Originally county leaders wanted a speed skating oval built somewhere in Provo or on the campus of Utah Valley University; others suggested the game's Closing Ceremony could be held at Brigham Young University's football stadium. After the 1989 Olympic referendum passed, and Salt Lake City lost its 1991 bid to host the 1998 Winter Olympics, the Utah Sports Authority and Provo City decided to wait until Salt Lake City bid again for the 2002 Winter Olympics before any venue planning would start.

After Salt Lake City won the 2002 Olympic bid in 1995, planning began again for what venue Utah County could host. It was decided that the city of Provo would host the venue, but that it would only be a practice ice sheet, mostly likely to be built in the planned Provo Towne Centre mall. Eventually plans changed and a larger, yet still only a practice ice facility, was planned to be constructed near Provo's East Bay Golf Course. Utah County, Provo, and SLOC all okayed the plans and committed to building the $7.7 million (equivalent to $ million in ) facility. But in July 1996, before construction had started, the owners of Provo's Seven Peaks Waterpark approached the city and asked that the arena be built on the park's property, and Seven Peaks would pay for an additional ice sheet to be constructed in the same building. The plan was approved by county officials October 14, 1996, with Provo paying $2 million, Utah County $2 million, SLOC $3 million, and Seven Peaks donating land for the arena and parking spaces. Valentiner, Crane, Brunjes, Onyon Architecture was chosen to design the arena.

On September 17, 1997 ground was broken for construction next to Seven Peaks Waterpark. It was to be 84000 sqft in size, with two ice sheets side by side. One ice sheet would have seating for about 2,000 spectators while the other would seat 300. By the time ground was broken the price had increased to $8.5 million, $1.5 million more than originally planned; the extra cost would be paid for by Seven Peaks.

Soon after construction had begun SLOC decided to host competitive hockey events in the new arena, versus the original plan to use the arena for practices, and using Utah Valley University's UCCU Center (then known as the McKay Events Center) for the competitions. SLOC would contribute $5.25 million (equivalent to $ million in ) towards the project, the cost of which had just jumped to $10.75 million, with the addition of 12 locker rooms instead of four, extra seating, and other minor additions to the original plan.

The arena opened November 20, 1998 in what was considered a "soft opening", and following the completion of minor work, the arena was supposed to have a grand opening in January or February 1999. But in December 1998 allegations of a scandal involving SLOC members, and members of the International Olympic Committee concerning the 2002 Olympic bid surfaced, pushing back the grand opening. As a result, the grand opening celebration was held September 29, 1999, and the venue hosted its first event, a hockey game between the University of Minnesota Duluth Bulldogs and the University of Calgary Oval Extremes, two days later. The completed arena cost $12.4 million to build, included two ice sheets, had seating for over 2,000 spectators, and was 110000 sqft in size.

On November 20, 2008 Provo City took control of the arena from Seven Peaks owner Max Rabner, resolving a lawsuit that had been on going for years over the original construction and management agreements. The arena is now operated by the Parks and Recreation Department of Provo.

2002 Winter Olympics
During the 2002 games both men's and women's ice hockey games and practices were held in the arena. Because of its original size over 6,000 temporary seats had to be installed to boost the ice center's capacity to 8,400, including press members. 93 percent of tickets were sold, for a total 131,067 of spectators witnessing events in the arena.

The arena today
The arena is home to the Peaks Figure Skating Club. The arena formerly served as home ice for the Provo Predators of the United States Premier Hockey League (who relocated to Wyoming in 2024 in lieu of the arrival of Utah Hockey Club), and is the current home ice for the ACHA collegiate hockey team of Utah Valley University, and high school teams including Timpanogos, Utah County Independent, Lehi, Payson, Spanish Fork and Springville, as well as the Peaks Youth Hockey Association. The arena is open to the public for ice skating, skating lessons, and can even be used for indoor soccer games.

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Antoine de Gramont, 4th Duke of Gramont

Antoine de Gramont, 4th Duke of Gramont (January 1672 – September 16, 1725), Duke of Guiche, was a Marshal of France.

Early life
French military figure and member of the House of Gramont, he was the oldest child of Antoine Charles IV de Gramont and Marie Charlotte de Castelnau (1648 – 29 January 1694), daughter of Marshal Castelnau.

Biography
At the age of thirteen, he became a musketeer and by 1687 he had become head of his regiment. He participated in the Siege of Philippsburg (1688) and the Battle of Landen (1693). He was made brigadier in 1694 and served in Flanders.

In 1696, he was serving under Marshal Catinat and Marshal Boufflers, and was himself made a marshal (of Flanders) and Colonel General of Dragoons in 1702. In 1704, he made lieutenant of the royal arms and on October 26, 1704, Colonel General of the French guards. He became envoy to Philip V of Spain in 1705. He was wounded at the Battle of Malplaquet (1709).

In 1712, he became Lieutenant General of Bayonne and Lieutenant General and Governor of Navarre and Béarn. In 1715, he became Counselor of Regents and War and in 1720, acquired the title of Duke of Gramont. In 1724, he became Marshal of France. He died a year later, evidently in his palace.

Personal life
He had married Marie Christine de Noailles (1672-1748), daughter of Anne Jules de Noailles, 2nd Duke of Noailles and his wife, Marie Françoise de Bournonville (1654-1748). They had 5 children. The second eldest child was:
 * Louis de Gramont, 6th Duke of Gramont

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User:VivekM/Sovereign Immunity

Sovereign Immunity is a convention or doctrine in public international law whereby a sovereign state, recognising other states as sovereign, extends the courtesy of immunity from any action being brought in its own courts against them - when they, their government or head of state act in their sovereign capacity.

In some jurisdictions the doctrine operates as a bar to action (in some cases qualified) and in others it is available as a preliminary plea in defence. It may be be roughly be explained or paraphrased by saying that "Equals shall not suffer other equals to be judged and censured by their own subjects or servants".

Unlike Diplomatic immunity (which is not the same thing), the doctrine of soveregin immunity remains largely unlegislated in the international arena (few, if any, multi-lateral conventions, treaties etc). Even municipal statute law on the subject has developed only in the last 20 years, following the Tate letter in USA and Lord Denning's opinion in the Trendtex case in UK.

These developments recognised, in a global scenario of the expanding fields of state action, the need to differentiate between acts of an essentialy governmental/state/soveregin nature or capacity on one hand and commercial/trading activities or personal acts on the other; and the rationality of applying the doctrine only to the former.

Till then the doctrine was, usually, most rigidly applied in all cases; and still is in some countries. Where so, it particularly affects citizens seeking relief in respect of transactions made, in thier home countries, with foreign governments - even where the necessary action could have been brought but for the application of the doctrine. Also, in some states/nations the application of the doctrine sometimes prevents citizens from bringing action against their own governments.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Star Wars Uprising

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The result of the debate was Delete (2d/0k/1dis) Ryan Norton T 08:08, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Star Wars Uprising
I'm familiar with the MUSH community, and I've played this game, and it's not notable in the least. It's quite recent, not even done, and frequently has connection numbers in the single digits. It's also fairly fun, but that's not good enough for Wikipedia. Lord Bob 23:05, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete until completion and notability occur. Marskell 00:30, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete -- Not sure who added it this time around, though this article was actually deleted once before for pretty much the same reasons. I'm the original creator of this particular MUSH, and don't really think it deserves to be here. It's not particularly recent (older than Wikipedia), but the other points stand. (Check previous delete page to see why this should be expediated) Tarison 03:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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KDKB

KDKB (93.3 MHz "Alt AZ 93-3") is a commercial FM radio station broadcasting to the Phoenix metropolitan area with its city of license in Mesa, Arizona. It is owned by Hubbard Broadcasting, Inc. with the license held by Phoenix FCC License Sub, LLC. It airs an Alternative Rock radio format. Its studios are located in Phoenix, while its transmitter is in South Mountain Park.

KYEW (1960–1962)
The first radio station on 93.3 in Phoenix was short-lived KYEW, owned by Frank S. Barc, which went on the air May 9, 1960. KYEW's license was canceled and its call letters deleted as of April 18, 1962.

Easy listening (1968–1971)
On April 20, 1968, the current 93.3 license first signed on the air as the sister station to 1510 AM (now KFNN). Originally, the station was KMND, broadcasting an easy listening music format branded as "Command Radio".

Rock (1971–2014)
On August 23, 1971, the format was changed to progressive rock. In many respects, this format was a continuation of the freeform format of KCAC, a daytime-only station that was going bankrupt. According to KDKB co-owner Dwight Tindle, he and KCAC program director, William Edward "Bill" Compton, "invented KDKB" and its air sound. Moreover, Compton and several of KCAC's DJs were hired to staff KDKB.

KDKB-FM's rock format was simulcast on 1510 KDKB (AM). In 1978, the AM simulcast was broken and 1510 changed formats to oldies. The AM call letters were changed to KDJQ ("The Golden Rock") with program director Robert M. Chenault and morning DJ Griffin Gary "Toad Hall" Kinsey, followed later by Bruce "Brother Bruce" Baumbush. In 1980, the format on KDJQ changed to new wave music for a brief time, with Jonathan "Johnny D." Dixon as the program director and Jonathan L as assistant program director, music director, and evening personality. 1510 is now broadcasting a Financial/Business News format as KFNN. KDKB was the first album oriented rock (AOR) station in the Phoenix media market, and one of the first AOR stations in America.

Throughout the 1980s, KDKB evolved into more of an adult-leaning direction focusing on the classic rock artists.

A favorite segment during the summer in the early 80's was reading listener shared "Dashboard Recipes" at noon. Everything from cookies and pastries to nachos and slow cooked chili were favorites.

Starting in March 1989, KDKB was anchored in mornings by the "Tim & Mark" show. The show proved to be one of the most popular in Phoenix radio history, lasting through 2005. The show featured regular segments like "Helium Hilarity" and "Rump Ranger". Tim & Mark did night time anniversary shows every year at places like the Tempe Improv and the Celebrity Theater.

Tim & Mark also contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to local charities. They sold their annual "Best Of Tim & Mark" CDs throughout the Valley while doing autograph signings at Wherehouse Record stores. All of the profits were then given to charity.

Tim & Mark left KDKB in early 2005. Their last show featured listeners calling in and thanking them for their show and also had Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano and Secretary of State Betsy Bayless call in to thank them and wish them well.

On September 5, 2006, KDKB began playing full-length albums of classic rock artists without the use of any on-air personalities. On September 15, 2006, KDKB returned to its mainstream rock format with the new slogan, "Everything That Rocks", including a larger variety of rock artists along with special programming features including '80s themed weekends.

In mid 2010, the station initiated the slogan, "KDKB Rocks Arizona!", and retooled the entire on-air lineup. In the fall of 2013, the station changed its lineup and featuring Shmonty & Conklin in the mornings, Ruby Cheeks midday, KDKB's Program Director and DJ Paul "Neanderpaul" Marshall in afternoons, and Mike Gaube at night. In 2013, Sandusky Radio sold its stations in Phoenix and Seattle to Hubbard Broadcasting, including KDKB.

Alternative (2014–present)
On September 17, 2014, at 10 a.m., KDKB dropped its rock format after 43 years (which would move to KDKB's HD2 sub-channel), and began stunting as "93.3 The Cheese" playing songs by jazz-lounge cover artist Richard Cheese. At noon that day, 93.3 flipped to Alternative Rock as "Alt AZ 93.3". The last song on "KDKB" was Living After Midnight by Judas Priest (promoting a November 2014 concert at Gila River Arena by the group), while the first song on "Alt AZ" was Come with Me Now by Paradise Valley-founded band KONGOS. This move allowed Hubbard to keep their "Wall of Rock" intact, while eliminating all overlaps between KDKB and sisters classic rock KSLX-FM and active rock KUPD.

In 2020, the station began airing the syndicated Woody Show in morning drive from KYSR in Los Angeles. Less than two years later, the show was dropped due to low ratings.

HD radio
KDKB's HD Radio signal is multiplexed. The main signal airs KDKB's alternative rock programming. The second channel carried KDUS "The Fan", a valley AM sports talk radio station until June 21, 2012 when KDUS was replaced by KAZG "Arizona Gold", a co-owned oldies station that broadcasts on 1440 AM. On September 17, 2014, when KDKB's main signal flipped to alternative rock, their previous rock format moved to the HD2 subchannel. KDKB's HD2 sub-channel later switched back to a simulcast of KAZG.

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Patrick Higginbotham

Patrick Errol Higginbotham (born December 16, 1938) is an American judge and lawyer who serves as a Senior United States circuit judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.

Background and education
Judge Higginbotham was born in McCalla, Alabama, to George and Ann Higginbotham (née Tumlin). The youngest of three, Higginbotham showed academic promise early in life.

Higginbotham received a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Alabama in 1960, attending on a tennis scholarship offered to him by then-Athletic-Director Paul "Bear" Bryant and serving as the team captain. He finished college and law school in just five years and received in 1961 a Bachelor of Laws from the University of Alabama School of Law at Tuscaloosa, where he also met Elizabeth, his eventual wife of 52 years.

Career
He was in the United States Air Force, JAG Corps from 1961 to 1964. He then joined Coke & Coke in Dallas, Texas from 1964 to 1975, where he primarily worked in antitrust litigation. He was an adjunct professor of constitutional law at the Southern Methodist University School of Law in 1976.

District court
Higginbotham was nominated by President Gerald Ford on December 2, 1975, to a seat on the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas vacated by Judge Sarah T. Hughes. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on December 12, 1975, and received commission the same day. At the time he was appointed to the District Court, he was the youngest sitting judge in the country. His service was terminated on August 3, 1982, due to elevation to the Fifth Circuit. He was succeeded by Judge Joe Fish.

Appellate court
Higginbotham was nominated by President Ronald Reagan on July 1, 1982, to a seat on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit vacated by Judge Reynaldo Guerra Garza. He was unanimously confirmed by the Senate on July 27, 1982, and received commission on July 30, 1982. In 2005, he moved his chambers from Dallas, Texas to Austin, Texas. He assumed senior status on August 28, 2006.

Supreme Court consideration
In 1986, when the nomination of Robert Bork to the Supreme Court of the United States was flailing, Higginbotham was widely considered the leading replacement candidate. After Senators Lloyd Bentsen and Dennis DeConcini came out in support of his nomination, the Reagan administration, unwilling to allow the senators to both prevent the appointment of Bork and dictate the next nominee, declined to nominate Higginbotham. The nomination eventually went to Justice Anthony Kennedy.

Other service
For many years, Higginbotham was a faculty member at the Federal Judicial Center and, as an appointee of Chief Justice William Rehnquist, the chairman of the Advisory Committee on Civil Rules. He served as president of the American Inns of Court Foundation, and in 1996 the Dallas chapter of that organization renamed itself after him. He has been a leading proponent and former chairman of The Center for American and International Law, a Dallas-based organization which aims to train foreign and domestic lawyers and police officers, a Fellow of the American Bar Association, chairman of its Appellate Judges Conference, member of the Board of Editors of the ABA Journal, and advisor to the National Center for State Courts on its study of habeas corpus. He is also a lifetime member of the American Law Institute and a member of the Board of Overseers, Institute of Civil Justice, RAND Corporation.

Speeches and writings
Higginbotham has published a number of articles in law reviews and newspapers. He is also a frequent speaker on various legal topics, particularly the death penalty and the decline of jury trials, having lectured at places including the Universities of Alabama, Chicago, St. Mary's, Texas, Texas Tech, Columbia, Duke, and Penn, as well as Case Western, Northwestern, Utah, Loyola, Hofstra, the National Science Foundation, The American College of Trial Lawyers and the National Institute of Trial Advocacy.

Personal life
Higginbotham married Elizabeth O'Neal in August 1961. They were married until her death from Alzheimer's disease on June 10, 2017, at the age of 78. They had two daughters.

Notable opinions

 * In In re LTV Securities Litigation, 88 F.R.D. 134 (N.D. Tex. 1980), Higginbotham formulated one of the earliest versions of the "fraud on the market" theory of loss causation, using language later quoted by the Supreme Court when it adopted the theory, see Basic, Inc. v. Levinson, 485 U.S. 224, 244 (1988).
 * In Schultea v. Wood, 47 F.3d 1427 (5th Cir. 1995) (en banc), Higginbotham allowed under Rule 7 notice pleading in potential qualified immunity cases but required, in reply to an allegation of qualified immunity, more detailed pleading, a tack later approved by the Supreme Court.
 * In Flores v. City of Boerne, 73 F.3d 1352 (5th Cir. 1996), Higginbotham upheld the Religious Freedom Restoration Act against the claim that the Act exceeded Congress's powers under the Fourteenth Amendment. The Supreme Court later reversed the decision.
 * In Doe v. Beaumont Independent School District, 240 F.3d 462 (5th Cir. 2001) (en banc), Higginbotham found that public school students and their parents had standing to challenge district's "Clergy in Schools" volunteer counseling program and that facts issues required reversal of summary judgment to defendants.
 * In Van Orden v. Perry, 351 F.3d 173 (5th Cir. 2003), Higginbotham upheld against an Establishment Clause challenge a Ten Commandments display on the Texas State Capitol, concluding that its secular history and purpose rendered it constitutional. The Supreme Court later affirmed.
 * Between 2000 and 2006, Higginbotham, sitting as the Circuit Judge along with two district judges in a Voting Rights Act three-judge panel, twice changed Texas's Congressional districts. His later effort, which struck a balance between competing interests while hewing closely to the Texas legislature's intent, was widely hailed.
 * In June Medical Services v. Russo, 30 F.3d 397 (5th Cir. 2018), Higginbotham dissented in a case upholding Louisiana's Act 620, which requires physicians performing abortions to have active admitting privileges at a hospital within thirty miles of a clinic. Higginbotham criticized the majority for reviewing the statute de novo, as a district court would, saying, "Appellate judges are not the triers of fact. It is apparent that when abortion comes on stage it shadows the role of settled judicial rules."

Awards and recognition

 * The 100 Most Powerful People For the 80's (Next Magazine) - 1981
 * Daniel J. Meador Outstanding Alumnus Award (University of Alabama) - 1986
 * Samuel E. Gates Litigation Award (American College of Trial Lawyers) - 1997
 * A. Sherman Christensen Award (American Inns of Court) - 2002
 * Jurist of the Year Award (Texas Chapters of the American Board of Trial Advocates) - 2006
 * Lewis F. Powell, Jr. Award for Professionalism and Ethics at a Celebration of Excellence (presented by Justice Alito in the United States Supreme Court) - 2008
 * Chief Justice John Marshall Award for Lifetime achievement from the JAG Association - 2010
 * St. Thomas More Award (St. Mary's School of Law, San Antonio, Texas) - 2011
 * Chief Justice Jack Pope Professionalism and Integrity Award (Texas Center for Legal Ethics) - 2013

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User talk:Rhobite/Archive 6

Don't Worry
I removed the "attack" that most people would say is the "truth." Don't worry, maybe the Mets will win the World Series, or the Jets will win anything, and then you can be happy. --Lord Voldemort 1 July 2005 14:12 (UTC)

About my rating stars
They just were created by me. As you could see on the corresponding description page I said I drew it myself and I licenced them under the GFDL, just because I thought it would be fine. What do you say, should I change the way I justified them? Regards, Luis María Benítez 2 July 2005 13:05 (UTC)
 * Please, are you telling me that I have to change them and that those stars were registered? Who cares... I didn't took them from Amazon.com, but from another site: In fact I just took one and then made further modifications to complete the rating sequence. I could change the color, the size, etc, but the esence is the same. They will be changed, but again, I see no reason for this. Luis María Benítez 22:38, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * You may not see any reason to respect Amazon's intellectual property, but it speaks poorly for this encyclopedia if we choose to take content created by other people and present it as our own. You claimed that you created these graphics - now you've admitted that you took them from another site. This is dishonest. If we want star graphics, we should make our own. Rhobite 02:40, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

CSD proposal
Hi there! I've refactored the long discussions on the CSD proposal into a final version, now open for voting. Please join :) This includes a (somewhat reworded) version of your proposal regarding redeletion of recreated content. Please take a look; if you disagree with my rewording please let me know ASAP. Yours, Radiant_ >|< July 4, 2005 17:02 (UTC)

User:24.6.59.24
Hi there! User:Jobe6 asked me to block this IP for vandalism. Since you blocked him twice earlier, I thought I'd ask your opinion on it. I couldn't find recent vandalism at a first glance. Yours, Radiant_ >|< July 4, 2005 17:38 (UTC)

Hey. It appears our friend User:24.6.59.24 has been up to more misinformation and changing links. Jobe6 July 4, 2005 17:50 (UTC)

DVD-Audio's CPPM Circumvented
I think you might be intereseted in a recent item on Slashdot. You might know more about this subject, and be able to update the article on DVD-Audio, which states that CPPM has not been cracked. —Vespristiano 6 July 2005 23:30 (UTC)

and RFC
pleae read and comment on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/DreamGuy-2

thaks Gabrielsimon 02:21, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

RFC on SlimVirgin
I have filed a request for comment on SlimVirgin. You can visit the page by going here. FuelWagon 22:18, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Unfree images
Regarding Image:1_out_of_5.png et al, I've created suitable replacements which are my own work, and hence have removed the possibly unfree image tags. I've also edited the relevant entry on the PUI page.
 * Thanks! Rhobite 15:03, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

unsolicited advice
you would be well-served to avoid blanket indictments such as your comment to steve: "It's unfortunate that anti-Semitism is so prevalent on the left." anti-semitism is indeed unfortunate, as is any kind of bigotry. but, the word 'prevalent' is a pretty small hedge to hide behind. and if you read the edit history of his talk page, you will see that steve is clearly just a troll. no, i'm not left, but i am offended anyway on behalf of wonderful people i know. of course, i understand why his comment would provoke anger, but that doesn't make your response ok. Derex 15:47, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * This is really a pointless discussion, but I stand by what I said. I am also disappointed that islamophobia is so prevalent on the right. Not all liberals are prejudiced against Jews, but a sizable number are. Rhobite 15:58, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
 * well, that's mighty big of you: "not all". i figure a sizable number of males, heterosexuals, people between 30 & 40, baseball fans, new yorkers, and republicans are also anti-semitic.  do you also attribute that to membership in those categories?  i dislike bigotry of any sort.  and i call people on it when i see it.  that's the point of this discussion, which i suppose is now over. Derex 18:37, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * So I make one offhand remark to an anti-Bush vandal who also happens to be an anti-semite and a homophobe, and suddenly I'm the enemy here. Yeah, this discussion is over. Rhobite 18:46, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Truth
Thanks for your edit. I get the impression that .6 is rather young. Banno 21:12, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Anonymous user 205.188.116.11
Sorry, the comment I just had here wasn't exactly truthful. 205.118.116.11 doesn't have any complaints, but a large number of other similar IPs do, and this one is connected to them. The one you just edited to point out that it is a shared IP is one of many that I've seen a certain person use to put random, meaningless crap on wiki articles. --Vyran 05:48, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I didn't check into any of the other IPs, but I would guess that they all belong to AOL. The way AOL proxy IPs work is each user gets a new IP with every request. So you could have one person making edits from a bunch of different IPs. It's annoying to Wikipedia, but there's nothing we can do about it. Rhobite 05:51, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * I knew about the AOL IP problem, but I wasn't sure if there was a way to deal with it. I figured there wasn't, though. I guess I'm just going to avoid the articles this guy goes after. Vyran 06:32, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Tlotz RfC.
I'll be joining you, on that one. Shem(talk) 03:47, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Chuck F
He's up to his usual tricks on Ron Paul and Libertarianism, and has violated 3RR on libertarianism. Since you seem to be the semi-official user:Chuck F guardian, I thought I'd tell you first.

Thanks in advance for dealing with this, Dave (talk) 15:14, July 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * He's up to his old tricks again... Dave (talk) 17:33, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * Just blocked him. I reloaded my watchlist just in time to see his edit. Thanks for the notes. Rhobite 17:35, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

New 5-star set
In order to avoid any conflict, or doubts, a whole new set of rating stars was created. They look slightly different: color and size. Here you could see an example: 3 out of 5 and here is the original image image:LMB_stars.png with all the stars. The license remains the same. That's it. I hope there is no problem now. Luis María Benítez 21:59, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

My appreciation
Thanks for your help in reverting the vandal who was spuriously adding my name to various articles. An oddity: The same IP had been used, only two hours earlier, to create a stub about Jimmy "Jax" Pinchak. I thought it might be a hoax, but it turns out to be a real child actor. He's appearing in a TV series that was mentioned in the stub but with a red link, so I did a little research and wrote Over There (series). Thus the siege of vandalism resulted in a small expansion of our coverage. Strange are the ways of the wiki. JamesMLane 22:33, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

RfC
Rhobite, your Requests for comment/Tlotz isn't showing evidence that two users have tried and failed to resolve the same dispute with this user. Do you have evidence of that? The RfC as it stands is not properly certified and I'm considering removing it, so please let me know asap. SlimVirgin (talk) 23:50, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

 * In fact, I have deleted it, Rhobite, because I just noticed that the single diff you gave as evidence of trying to resolve the dispute was timed just two hours before you posted the RfC, so Tlotz didn't even have time to respond. There has to be evidence from two users of genuine attempts to resolve the dispute — not just evidence of the dispute itself, but of efforts to deal with it. Otherwise, lots of frivolous RfCs could be brought against anyone. Let me know if you disagree with my decision. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 00:00, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * Of course I disagree with your decision. You deleted an RFC which was certified by four people, because you felt that some arbitrary standard had not been met. You should have just added an outside response if you felt that I hadn't attempted enough dispute resolution. In fact, Tlotz did acknowledge my threat of an RFC, with another personal attack: I put up a request on Votes for undeletion. Please explain your rationale for violating the RFC policy there. Rhobite 00:52, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree with you that the RfC was valid, but Tlotz seems to have gone away. My personal preference is that we not allow him to waste any more of our time unless we have to.  See User talk:SlimVirgin for my thoughts on the subject. JamesMLane 00:59, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Rhobite, please quit the ad hominem remarks. What are the customs of the RfC process that you feel I'm not respecting? SlimVirgin (talk) 02:53, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I didn't see your comment above. If you want me to see your messages, you'll have to post on my talk page. I told you earlier why I deleted it: the rules say you have to provide evidence within 48 hours of two people - two, not one - attempting dispute resolution. You didn't provide that. SlimVirgin (talk) 02:56, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm not aware of any other time an RFC page with 2 or more certifications has been deleted. If you thought I was the only one who tried to resolve this, you were wrong and you could have read the Republican Party talk page to verify this. Please stop deleting it now, let people on VFU sort this out. Rhobite 02:59, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

 * Rhobite, why are you not listening? There is a space on the page asking for the diffs from two people showing attempts at dispute resolution, to be provided within 48 hours. You did not provide diffs from two people. You could have a thousand people certify it and it would make no difference. You also have to provide those diffs or the thing is invalid. SlimVirgin (talk) 03:55, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Wolf hunting controversy
Thanks for you helpful edits in Wolf hunting controversy. I've been trying to clean it up, but I'm at my wits end with a difficult editor and I've already come perilously close to violating 3RR on that article. Friday 01:47, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

close doenst cut it. and if you had been les stubborn and discussed mattes it wouldnt have come to that. Gabrielsimon 01:55, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Please don't carry this flame war onto my talk page, guys. Rhobite 01:57, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Alright, I'll bite
Is there ANY way I can mark an article that I know is inappropriate? I'm interested in going through new pages as they come up and making a note that they are wrong in some way (letting someone else sort out the details). Does this eventually get done anyway and I shouldn't worry with it? Thanks. Category 05:42, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Hope I didn't give the wrong impression.. it's great that you're tagging new articles, this is a necessary step. You're just using the wrong tag sometimes. You may want to read Maintenance for an overview, the number of tags can be overwhelming. Generally, material that doesn't belong in the encyclopedia should go to VfD unless it meets one of the criteria for speedy deletion. We can speedy delete things like gibberish and one-line external links, but not articles about relatives of politicians or songs, for instance. If you feel an article is salvageable, then it is always better to tag it with or a similar tag. You may also want to look at the stub-sorting project, which categorizes stub articles that are useful but short. WP:WSS. Rhobite 05:47, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
for dealing with the excessive reverts. Banno 10:11, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Adoption of Judge Roberts' children
I have just warned 214.13.4.151 that his repeated edits to remove the word "adopted" from the articles for Judge Roberts and his wife are not agreed to and that if he continues to try to make the change without consensus I will report him. He apparently has a history of somewhat controversial edits. Jdavidb 13:44, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

not quite literal crapshooting
what do you think of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Gabrielsimon

Gabrielsimon 21:16, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

sigh.... thats why i called it c rapshooting... well, at least you were honest, if not really all to helpfull to me... Gabrielsimon 21:47, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Broadbandreports Reverts
Hi'ya, thanks for the revert ... it seems multiple times we've been reverting the same "Controvery". I started up a Talk on this, hope you can join: Talk:Broadbandreports. --Paul Laudanski 17:46, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Trying to get AIDS as a Featured Article
Hi there! In an effort to make the article here on AIDS the best possible before trying to submit it as a "Featured Article", I've looked up some active submitters in the last month or so and found you. Please, take a little time to go by the AIDS article and it's Talk page to see how you can help. One rather large source of confusion and complication, the References/External Links section, has just been cleaned and polished, thus your experience should be much more tolerable in general ;).

AIDS is a very serious world wide issue; never before have we needed to spread AIDS education as much as we do now. We need as many people as possible working together to make this article on AIDS the best it can be. Hope to see your contributions soon! JoeSmack (talk) 17:53, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * I think that's a great goal, and I'm glad to see that the article has improved. I'm a little worried that Sci Guy continues his attempt to confuse and muddle issues, though. Rhobite 18:04, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * It's hard, but I think his intentions are good. We've butted heads more than a few times, but it doesn't mean we can't work out a consensus of whats best. Plus, the more level headed people we have working on this the better Sci Guy's stuff will be monitored.
 * Hope to see you around the AIDS article soon. We could _really_ use your help. JoeSmack (talk) 18:56, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Hehehe. On Steve
I see you locked in the tracking text for Steve's current IP. Heh.

The funny thing is that I just spent 15 minutes typing up a long response to Steve. About his options going forward. I think I'm one of the few here who saw the potential in him to be a useful Wiki member. (That view of potential has shrunk to almost nothing as I watch him fail to learn anything from repeated blocks.) And I can't post it because of the block. :) I've saved it off to file, and will get to send it to Steve one of these days.  It's basically one final attempt on my part to get him to see he's going nowhere with his current path.

I hope I didn't cross any lines with my comments on the history lines. I'm not letting myself get annoyed at Steve, and treating the back and forth as something of a game (keeping score on reverts) is one way to not let myself get annoyed by the whole situation.

This does bring up an interesting point. It's one thing to get into a revert war on a main userspace page. But what is the policy on such on a talk page? I know it's very bad Wiki eticit for him ro delete our comments, but where do *I* stand? It is, after all, *his* talk page onto which I was forcing the comments. Just wondering. TexasAndroid 21:08, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I felt it was important to have that text up there, and it was petty for Steve to claim that he was a different person. I've unlocked the page for now. I think we have given him enough slack considering his tendency towards personal attacks and his disruptive editing habits.

 * There's no set rule about who owns an IP talk page. Generally if the IP is causing problems, we use the user page and/or talk page to track the user, and revert the user's insults/blanking. It's a different situation than with logged-in users, since nobody really "owns" an IP address. I probably wouldn't have gotten into an edit war with him on his own talk page, but I don't think you did anything wrong.

 * Also, if you are willing to write an RFC about Steve I'd be willing to certify it. Rhobite 22:13, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Steve has blanked the User_talk:134.161.245.70 page again. TexasAndroid 19:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I would say leave it be. He hasn't edited any articles (yet) today, there's no need to continue stirring up this dispute unless he continues to disrupt articles. I recommend you find another place to keep track of his activities. A subpage of your user page would be good, but be careful to avoid personal attacks, jokes, etc. Some users get very upset when another user keeps tabs on them. Rhobite 19:39, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, we already have it. The User pages (not talk) of the various IPs.  Steve is apparently unaware of them.  As far as getting upset, we've already seen how this upsets him.  But then, so many things upset him.
 * Anyway, I'm not going to push the list back onto the talk pages for now. Not really worth the hassle. Currently having fun debating him on his current IP's talk page as to whether he's Steve or not.  Oh, and he has said what his new account is on it.  Wheee.
 * An evidence page on a subpage of mine would not be a bad idea. Gather together as many things as I can that link the IDs together, or show his general attitude.  Just in case a RFC becomes necessary.  I suspect if one is filed, I will not be the one to file it, but will gladly contribute to it. TexasAndroid 19:52, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

DNFTT
Probably fair enough. If the user is a troll, I was aiming to give the user enough rope, as it's a brand new account that's appeared just after so many provocative edits. Buffyg 00:41, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok how did you send me personally a message? I cannot find a way to do the same to you. Anyway, sorry it was a joke. A friend and I were suggesting wikipedia at the same time and I said "I wonder what wikipedia means" and he said I should search it and it would probably turn up wikipedia=god. Well it didnt stay long enough for him to see it though. :(  But wikipedia is the best site and I think I will learn more and be a volunteer myself.

Not just a bunch of links
Hi Paul, I don't understand why I can't list my site under affiliate marketing. Did you look at the site? It is not a collection of affiliate links, nor is it even a directory. It is a comparison engine that lets online ecommerce merchants contrast and compare the different affiliate software packages out there. It fits in perfectly with this stub and I don't know where else it could be better located.

I have updated some of the text in the article itself in order to improve it and will keep doing so. I know there was another guy named Vince or something that was spamming in there but I don't see why you have to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I have already had several comments from merchants who were impressed with the site, and some found it via Wiki.

Comments?

Regards, Peter Affiliate-Software-Review.com

Darn now all the links at affiliate marketing are gone in a bold move by someone who had their external link removed and decided we need to discuss it.Peterkoning 17:10, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Gabrielsimon
Gabrielsimon has progressed to removing comments off the talk page that he doesn't like and removing part of the evidence section of the RfC against him. I was hoping you could help watch him and make sure he doesn't do it, tracing it back and undoing it is getting complicated for me. DreamGuy 18:19, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Jacko
Thanks for chiming in on the Michael Jackson talk page. I thought I was fighting a losing battle, and that those guys were going to slowly whittle the intro down to "Michael Jackson is a singer." :-) It's amazing what you get involved in when you add a page to your watchlist as an anti-vandalism measure... android  79  18:38, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Your assistance would be appreciated.
Given I'm not entirely certain what to do, now, with a personal-attack-fest I've stumbled into with User:IZAK. Would you mind reviewing the discussion at both this VfD and his talk, and give me an idea as to what Wikipedians're supposed to do in such situations? Shem(talk) 10:16, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Hello? Shem(talk) 18:06, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to look into this for a while since I'm going away for the weekend. Rhobite 18:27, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

Digg.com
You protected Digg.com, as it had been recreated after being deleted by vfd.

I just stumbled on the website digg.com, and it seems like a innovative and original website which I should be able to read about in Wikipedia. It is currently getting 1.2 million google hits. Do you mind if I unprotect the page to allow it to be created? Thue | talk 19:45, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Go for it, the site seems to be picking up. Alexa rank of 8,615 is not that bad. And please put the article at Digg, making Digg.com a redirect. Rhobite 20:52, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

hand
Your reversion was wrong. The hand is a must IMHO. The whole point of that message is that it is the ultimate and most serious warning. I have spoken to users who were banned and who said later they did not see the message among other messages and did not understand that it is was a serious 'this is your final warning' message. After discussing it with them (two emailed me afterwards asking why I had blocked them without warning. I explained that I had warned them.) I added in the hand to make it abundantly clear that this is not just another 'stop it' warning. This is a 'you are one step away from being banned' warning. It has to have visual impact or it is worthless.

As it stands, given what I have been told it is worthless because it is all too invisible to someone who doesn't spot it among their messages. The hand, the classic stop sign, makes sure they see it and get the message - if you repeat what you are doing you '''will be banned. This is your final warning.''' With the hand they cannot but see the message and so it may actually stop vandalism and remove the need for a block. (The current tests really aren't adequate and need a graphic impact to draw attention to them.) FearÉIREANN\(caint) 01:03, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm copying your message to Template talk:test4 and responding there. Rhobite 01:06, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

Another RFC
I have requested an RFC against you. See

Sveasoft
It appears that Sveasoft has been busy link-spamming. All the edits from [User:62.20.102.130] post links for Sveasoft's main site (not the Wikipedia entry) in any possible page dealing with wireless routers, hotspots, etc...which is why I nominate the IP address range 62.20.102.128/25 for a ban.

Here's the WHOIS info for 62.20.102.130: % This is the RIPE Whois query server #1. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % Note: the default output of the RIPE Whois server % is changed. Your tools may need to be adjusted. See % http://www.ripe.net/db/news/abuse-proposal-20050331.html % for more details. % % Rights restricted by copyright. % See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html

% Note: This output has been filtered. %      To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.

% Information related to '62.20.102.128 - 62.20.102.255'

inetnum:     62.20.102.128 - 62.20.102.255 netname:     SE-SVEASOFT descr:       Sveasoft Utveckling AB descr:        Wireless ISP country:     se admin-c:      JE730-RIPE tech-c:      JE730-RIPE status:      ASSIGNED PA mnt-by:       TELIANET-LIR source:      RIPE # Filtered

person:      James Ewing address:     Sveasoft AB address:      Myrvagen 3 address:     13463 Ingaro address:     se phone:        +46702704417 e-mail:      james.ewing@sveasoft.com nic-hdl:     JE730-RIPE mnt-by:      TELIANET-LIR source:      RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to 'JE730-RIPE'

route:       62.20.0.0/16 descr:       TELIANET-BLK origin:      AS3301 mnt-by:      TELIANET-RR source:      RIPE # Filtered It belongs to Sveasoft. They should be notified that propaganda and advertising are not welcome here.

Sveasoft
Double-post, sorry...but here's the link I was trying to give you: User contributions: 62.20.102.130.

VFD
Hey, I'm sorry to bother you, but I am trying to nominated Time to Relax for deletion, but I am having trouble with the syntax. Do you mind dropping me a message on my page to help me? Thanks, Sensation002 00:03, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Dot-Six Update
Dot-Six states that you blocked one of his IP addresses. I assume that you did it for good cause, either 3RR or some other gross violation of the rules. Could you please add the details either to the RfC or a subpage of the RfC? We will have to go to the Arbcom, because this vandal is persistent, and we need a very strong case.

Thank you for dealing with this vandal. Robert McClenon 00:58, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

 * A few of them actually. He has been repeatedly removing the VFD tag from the top of Tyranny of the majority, an article he wrote. It is common and uncontroversial to block people who vandalize VFD notices. I'll add it to the arbitration if the time comes. Rhobite 01:01, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

ASTs
As a former K5 user, are you interested in voting on Votes for deletion/Adequacy Style Troll? - Ta bu shi da yu 01:52, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Proxies
I've been wondering this for a while and was just waiting to see someone in the blocklog I could ask: How do you determine open proxies? -- Essjay ·  Talk 08:27, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

 * I use http://openrbl.org/ and/or http://completewhois.com/ to check if they're on proxy lists such as the DSBL. Another option is to Google search for the IP address, or simply try to use the proxy yourself (try ports 80, 8000, and 8080). If an IP is on a reputable list of compromised hosts, I usually don't bother to test it myself. Block indefinitely, with a reason " ". Rhobite 08:33, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Vfd / Vfd
The problem is that the VfD attack was launched by interested parties (2) who failed to disclose their bias. That in my opinion is unfair, and so the process should be canceled on account of poisened fruit - then it can be renominated for Deletion. What's wrong with that?

 * There's nothing in the deletion policy that justifies ending votes early simply because the nominator is somehow biased. Why don't you just vote to keep the article? Rhobite 03:28, August 5, 2005 (UTC)

Re: System of a Down
Yes, Rhobite, of course I know that Billboard is the company that originally publishes the chart positions for all the singles. But, I don't care which source to cite for charting singles. I wasn't trying to say that the allmusic.com or billboard.com version is correct. That's why I kept reverting you and anon users on Mezmerize. -- Mike Garcia | talk 21:49, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Links to blogs on 'weblog'
I was just driving by, and noticed your comment on the changelog. I'm as big on snark as the next guy (well, probably bigger :-), but from a quick perusal of the list of example links you pulled out, I'd say you're being *really* pessimistic if you think that the poster is responsible for all those blogs. --Baylink 23:25, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

IM SORRY - Jordan

DYK
Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 20:48, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

 * My first DYK (although a self-nom). Sweet, thanks! Rhobite 21:01, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Func's RfA :)
Rhobite, as an admin I have so much respect for, (and as the guy who suggested you would be a good admin :) ), your vote was very important to me, and I very much appreciated it. :)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Func( t, c, e, ) 22:49, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

DotSix has just violated 3RR
DotSix has reverted Talk:Truth 4 times in the last 24 hours. See:

Also, all of these edits were to delete someone else's comment. I believe when you blocked him for 24hrs last week, it was for exactly this reason and you warned him you would do it again if he deleted comments again. Can I ask that you please block him again? By the way, since you blocked him, he was blocked 3 more times, by Uncle Ed, Carbonite, and (I think) Sasquatch. The latter reset his block when he was caught using a sock puppet. Since 24 hrs is apparently not punishment enough for him to learn his lesson, can you block him for longer this time? If it all possible, could you impose and injunction so that he can only edit his RfA until after the RfA is decided? Thanks for anything you can do. --Nate Ladd 00:18, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

And now he's done it a 5th time. --Nate Ladd 01:52, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

Chuck
He's up to his old tricks. He edited Ron Paul again... Dave (talk) 03:32, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Digg
The article has gone through three VfUs, the last less than a month ago. Don't lecture me on proprieties. Zoe 06:33, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Excuse me? The criteria for speedy deletion have changed, please re-read them. Rhobite 06:34, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Excuse me? The Votes for Undeletion are still consensus to keep deleted, please read them.  Zoe 06:38, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Wow, you're rude. Rhobite 06:53, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * Pot, kettle, black. Zoe 06:55, August 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * I asked you nicely to re-read a policy page which you don't appear to be familiar with. In return, you commanded me not to "lecture" you and mocked what I wrote. Only one of us has been rude here - please lose the attitude. Rhobite 07:11, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Does it occur to you that simply un-doing something some can just do up again is pointless? Take it to WP:VfU. When the page gets deleted and protected again, I mean. brenneman (t) (c) 07:06, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The point that I am apparently failing to make to you is this:
 * If Zoe was wrong, would it have killed someone to put a note on xir talk, providing evidence of the mistake and let Zoe fix it xirself?
 * The circus could have been halted by either party letting the version they didn't like remain while they talked.
 * You'll notice that most admins have identical powers. Thus any contest between them is not only pointless, but is very poor form.  It amounts, in the absence of discussion, to a test of who'll push the button more.
 * I'd like to point out that while WP:BOLD says to be bold in editing articles, WP:ADMIN urges you to use caution. brenneman (t) (c)  04:02, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
 * You can write an RFC about me and Thue if you like. I'm done explaining. I will point out that the VFU vote is now heavily leaning towards keeping/undeleting the article. Rhobite 04:15, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration of DotSix requires evidence in a new form
It looks like we have to add the evidence against DotSix a second time, in a different form at Requests_for_arbitration/DotSix/Evidence. I have added some already. Scroll down to see the template they want us to use. They also want us to fill out the template at Requests_for_arbitration/DotSix. I have already pasted in the stuff from the RfAr including your statement. Hope that is ok with you. --Nate Ladd 02:21, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've submitted evidence in arbitration cases before. I'll probably get around to posting some of my evidence within a couple days. I'm going to focus on the worst stuff - blanking the RFAR page, blanking talk pages, removing comments, editing WP:NPOV, etc. Thanks for getting the ball rolling with the evidence. Rhobite 02:34, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Internet slang
I'm beginning to wonder if the cleanup process is futile. Check out the note I dropped on the discussion page. —RaD Man (talk) 14:53, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

HEEELP
You seem to know quite a bit about this place... The Michael Crook entry keeps getting butchered by Crook himself...

Any idea how to keep him from messing with the entries?

Mr. Crook doesn't seem to want to keep his hands of the article even after repeated warnings... anything we can do... this guy is being a real idiot...

Mike Garcia
Would you mind assisting me with Mike Garcia and Hypnotize? I have settled for compromise language (I don't think the mistaken beliefs of a few fans merits inclusion) but he insists on having it 100% his way with unsourced info. Thanks in advance. 66.36.133.229 22:39, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * 66.36.133.229, your edits on Hypnotize are nothing but a spew of vandalism. -- Mike Garcia | talk 23:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks anyway, Mike was finally blocked for vandalism. 66.36.133.229 00:14, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * No he wasn't, he was blocked for disruption. --fvw *  00:16, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Joe Nichols Copyright Violation???
You removed the information I added to the Joe Nichols artist page, citing it as a "copyright violation"... I have a compact disc of the original Joe Nichols copyrighted in 1989 - before the major label artist whom you have listed in his place. I will be contacting a legal adviser if you want to dispute this.
 * Are you saying there are two Joe Nichols recording country music? If so they should have separate articles. I assumed they were the same person. I removed the text you added because it was copied from the record label web site. Since Wikipedia is an open content encyclopedia, we can't accept copyrighted submissions. Rhobite 02:40, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

I represent that record label. Wikipedia created a profile of our record label without our knowledge or permission (which is fine). Nevertheless, when this was done, all of the information listed about our label was copied from our record label website. Now you are saying that we can't post information about our artist because it's copyrighted, even though we own the copyright? This being after Wikipedia copied similar information from our website without our permission? Additionally, our label profile listed the names of our artists, including Joe Nichols - with a link to the wrong Joe Nichols. Since our artist predates this one, I edited that information since that was who Wikipedia linked us to. Do different rules apply depending on who is adding or editing information? There seems to be a substantial double standard here.

 * OK, well whether or not it's a copyright violation the text is breezy and promotional, so it's unsuitable for an encyclopedia article. Both Joe Nichols should be covered in Wikipedia, although the young Joe Nichols appears to be far more notable than the WV Joe Nichols. And what do you mean, "Wikipedia created a profile of our record label without our knowledge or permission"? Wikipedia users are allowed to write about anything we want, we don't need permission from the subjects of articles. If you can point to any specific information which was copied from your website, I'd be glad to remove it. Rhobite 02:52, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

This was posted on Wiki without our knowledge or permission:

Syphrus Music is an independent record label/collective based in the East Coast/Mid-Atlantic region of the United States, and affiliatedMusicRecordings was started and continues to be operated by musicians, for musicians, in a way that bypasses the traditional mainstream music industry.

This is text from our website:

''Syphrus Music is an independent record label/collective based in the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia. We are basically an eclectic rock label, with artists ranging from hardcore/metal to roots/world music and anything in between. Syphrus Music was started and continues to be operated by musicians, for musicians, in a way that bypasses the traditional mainstream music industry. We do this through a homemade, do-it-yourself ethic enhanced by professional studio, media, and promotional resources. Because we are all musicians ourselves, we keep an open mind regarding the music we are involved with. ''

We did not post this info, meaning that someone copied it from our website. Which is exactly what you're telling us that we cannot do about our own artists. That makes no sense whatsoever. Why can you violate copyrights by copying text from our website, but we cannot copy text from our own website and post it?

 * How was I supposed to know that you own the copyright to the text? You haven't signed up for an account, you don't sign your posts, and you don't use edit summaries. Sure, you can copy text from your own web site, but please make sure it's not promo copy. If you're going to write a blurb about Joe Nichols, be my guest, but please don't make it an ad, and don't remove all the info about the other Joe Nichols again. Rhobite 03:02, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Implementing Injunction of DotSix
6 of the 9 active members of the Arb Committee have voted for the injunction of DotSix. Do you know how to implement this? Is it something you can do yourself? Thnaks, --Nate Ladd 05:20, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * First thing, you have to wait until the Arbitration Committee says the injunction is effective, typically it takes 24 hours before it's in effect. Second, I'm not going to enforce this since I'm involved in the case right now, but please ask on WP:AN if you need DotSix blocked or anything. Other admins should be happy to help. Rhobite 05:56, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

History of Moldova
I applied a lengthy range block on this vandal (who is also the Luxembourg/Mississippi/"per capita"/hoax vandal. Accordingly I've unprotected the article. The range block comes with a message that tries to enlist other users of his ISP to report him (he's almost certainly violating their terms of service).  I've applied blocks of 1 hour, 3 hours, 24 hours in the recent past. -- Curps 05:54, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks, I was thinking about a range block but I wasn't sure if it'd affect other users at the vandal's ISP. Hopefully not. Rhobite 05:57, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi, if you apply a range block to 63.19.128.0/17, you have be careful to keep the message short, or it gets truncated (and the e-mail and phone number don't appear). After experimenting with 1 minute blocks on myself to see what a blocked user sees, I settled on this:  + many more. Sorry if this is not you. Abuse contact @ your ISP to report IPs/timestamps: [mailto:abuse-mail@mci.com e-mail], +1-800-900-0241

 * -- Curps 16:54, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Please fix this line on ron Paul "Paul's libertarianism is not absolute: He voted to prohibit adoptions by same sex couples in the District of Columbia." it is in violation of serveral wikipedia policies including No_original_research and Neutral_point_of_view and Verifiability and Cite_sources.

1. It assumes that ron paul voting against these adoptions is un-libertarian. Under Wikipedia guidelines "In summary, if the facts, opinions, or arguments you want to include in an article have not been published by a credible or reputable publication, you're engaged in original research" goes along with 4, as no source has been citied

2. It is written from an uneutral point of view, it assumes that voting to prohibit adoptions by same sex couples in the district of Columbia is unlibertarian and states this as a fact. without even delving into any Paul's reason.

3. Information is unverifiable

Thank you

Chuck F
Just a heads-up: it looks like Chuck is back to editing anonymously from 203.112.19.195. I've just reverted him at Ron Paul. RadicalSubversiv E 17:35, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

American Liberalism
One anon user seems to want to remove the Clintons from the list of liberals. We have been having a mini edit-war. Can you ding him for not going with consensus as is being established on the talk page? Thanks. --Lord Voldemort <sup style="color:#3D9140;">(Dark Mark) 21:37, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

RfC on Monicasdude
Started at Requests for comment/Monicasdude. Please help certify it and flesh it out.

9/11 domestic complicity conspiracy theories
Sigh. Kevin Baas is at it again. Jayjg <sup style="color:darkgreen;">(talk) 08:53, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:List of Michigan county name etymologies

Maps needed
We could use maps which show the evolution of the county names and lines over time. I think the piece would be improved by that.

7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:32, 30 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

NOT. I put in internal links in article that brought together all of the information that one could reasonably need. There already are maps, and now there is a link to them. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

Extraneous information on the lawyer Kent of Kent County
Dear BKonrad:

Interestingly, even as you were deleting my informaiton about the Kent in Kent County, Michigan as "extraneous", I was having another gentleman delete an internal link to List of Michigan county name etymologies as 'irrelevant' to the entry on the Toledo War.

With respect, one can fairly deduce the hows and whys of the Michigan county name changes. This ties in perfectly with the cabinet counties, and shows the undying gratitude of a grateful state.

You are just as wrong on this one as is the gentleman on the Toledo War.

I understand relevancy. It is my job. But this relates to the major thesis of the article.

One has to think about the total picture, and presenting it in accord with accuracy and recorded history. I did that here.

Think about it. I know you can do right on this disagreement.

Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 23:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

A question of grammar and syntax
I put in the following in the article:

''The differences in meaning would appear to be (at least in part) due to the difference between a literal translation and a more contextual interpretation. Place names that are devoid of (remembered) history, context, persons or place are subject to infinite debate, since by definition all of the participants are dead, and actual documents showing their intent are rare or no longer existent.''

My question is whether "persons" or "place" should each be singular or plural? Which would better convey the thought?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

Your major copy edit
Wow, you sure we're busy. I might suggest, however, that simply saying that Alcona County or Alpena County was a made up word, without giving the supposed meaning and origin, might be throwing out the substance of the article. I in fact sources that information, so that can't be a criticism, I don't think.

You also got rid of the text on Otsego County in the examples, and it was not repeated in the list.

Just a gentle suggestion. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

 * In the entries for either one, that information would be appropriate (or in the articles). But using them as examples to put forward an argument is not appropriate. By the way, I'm not too happy with how the the list is currently formatted -- it is not very conducive to including more that a very short statement about the derivation. But I've no time at the moment to re-work the presentation. older ≠ wiser 18:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Of course, when I started working with it, it was only a list. Then I added the other sections, and tried to give some context.  As you have.  In addition to the internal links, there are maybe four or five good sources, and they disagree.  the list of Michigan counties does not address a lot of meanings for quite a few of the names -- it just has a blank, or says something like 'Henry Schoolcraft made this up.'  The other sources (Clarke Historical Library bibliography for each county, the various soil conservation documents for each county -- somebody really had some resources when they did that -- the Michigan manual, the governmental list of Michigan counties, and others, frequently disagree.  I think the article should show the tension between the sources and the experts who have opinions on the subject.  A blank, or a faked result which suggests their is unanimity or glosses over the differences, does not do the reader a service.

 * As I said in the article, there is difference between translation and interpretation.  As John F. Kennedy once told a cold war audience, "Ich bin ein Berliner" -- 'I am a jelly donut.'  That's why the people standing behind him are laughing.  Even if you were operating in one language, the meaning of words must depend on the context.  See Corbin on Contracts and  Restatement of Contracts 2nd.

 * The deeper I got into this, the more I realized that there were no simple answers (other than Jackson County was named for Andrew Jackson.

 * Indeed, I am starting to come to the conclusion that I really should do some independent research and write a non-Wiki article on the subject. Maybe I could even get it published and get paid for it. [:}

 * I thought you had really spent a lot of time and effort on the rewrite, and I appreciate the help.

 * Happy New Year to you.

7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)Stan

 * Yes, sources may disagree, but in the majority of cases I think the differences are mostly due to obscurity. For instance, no one really knows for certain the origin of cheboygan. Similarly, most of the names that Schoolcraft invented are purely his invention. In some cases he may have documented something about how he derived a term and what it meant to him. In cases where he did not, other people may have various speculative interpretations and it is hardly surprising that such speculations may be at odds.

 * Yes there is a difference between translation and interpretation, but a wikipedia article is not the place to put forth an original analysis of differences between sources, and especially not to draw conclusions based on that analysis.

 * That list of Michigan counties does not have entries for many counties only means that article is incomplete. I didn't notice any details there that contradicted information in this list -- some entries were less detailed, but each article does not need to reproduce every detail from other articles. older ≠ wiser 22:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

When you were merging/deleting this article, proper etiquette would have been to notify contributing editors.
You merged this. You didn't bother to notify contributing editors of the proposal. I was a major contributor. Viewed most charitably, this was an oversight. Viewed more crudely, this was rude and a breach of etiquette. Either way, I dissent. It is now a matter of record, as is your protocol. I trust this won't happen in the future. WP:AGF. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC) Stan


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Jillian Michaels

Jillian Michaels (born February 18, 1974) is an American fitness expert, certified nutritionist, businesswoman, media personality, and author. She is best known for her appearances on NBC series such as The Biggest Loser. She has also made an appearance on the talk show The Doctors. In 2015, she hosted and co-judged a series on Spike titled Sweat, INC. In 2016, her reality television series Just Jillian premiered on E!.

Early life
Michaels was born in Los Angeles on February 18, 1974, the daughter of psychotherapist JoAnn, and lawyer Douglas McKarus. Her mother is Jewish and her father is of Syrian descent. She was raised in the Tarzana neighborhood of Los Angeles.

Michaels was heavy in her youth, using food to comfort herself, which became more pronounced at age 13 when her parents divorced. Around that time, her weight topped out at approximately 170 lb. Her mother enrolled her in martial arts classes to help her deal with stress, the result of which was Jillian focusing on health, wellness and fitness.

She attended California State University, Northridge, supporting herself as a bartender and personal trainer during that time. In 2002, after working briefly as an agent with International Creative Management, she opened the sports medicine facility Sky Sport & Spa in Beverly Hills.

Career
As a personal trainer, Michaels uses a blend of strength training techniques with her clients including kickboxing, yoga, Pilates, plyometrics, and weight training. Since 1993, Michaels has held four personal training certificates from the National Exercise & Sports Trainers Association NESTA and The Aerobics and Fitness Association of America (AFAA), CanFitPro and she is Kettlebell Concepts certified. Michaels has also developed a continuing education series for trainers with AFAA and holds a nutrition and wellness consultant certificate with the American Fitness Professionals and Associates (AFPA).

Media
Jillian Michaels: The Fitness App is one of the top fitness apps globally and has won awards from both Apple and Google for best of in health and fitness app category. Michaels has also released 20 fitness DVDs that have sold over 100 million copies worldwide. Michaels has also authored 9 books on health and wellness topics with 8 NY Times Best Sellers New York Times Best Seller list.

Since February 2011, Michaels has hosted a weekly podcast, Keeping It Real, through iTunes. In December 2011, the show was among the podcasts honored by Apple in its App Store Rewind 2011, winning in the Best New Audio Podcast category.

Michaels launched her company Empowered Media LLC in 2008 and released her fitness video membership website called Fitfusion.com. Fitfusion is also associated and broadcasts on AT&T U-verse, BroadbandTV Corp, Bell Satellite TV Canada, and other TV channels, as well as Roku, Apple TV, and Fitness OnDemand reaching audiences in Marriott, Hilton Worldwide and Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts.

The Biggest Loser
Michaels was a trainer on the reality series The Biggest Loser when the show started in October 2004. On the show, she assumed the role of Red Team trainer and remained in that capacity for the first two seasons. After her departure in 2006, she was replaced by Kim Lyons. She returned to the show in 2007 as the Black Team trainer competing against Lyons' Red Team and Bob Harper's Blue Team. Along with Harper, Michaels was also a trainer in the Australian version of the show from 2006 to 2008.

On December 7, 2010, Michaels announced via Twitter that the eleventh season of the show would be her last. Michaels made her last appearance on The Biggest Loser on May 24, 2011.

On September 4, 2012, it was announced that Michaels will return to The Biggest Loser in Season 14. Michaels also returned for Season 15, which premiered on October 15, 2013, on NBC, but did not return for Season 16 which aired in the fall of 2014.

Losing It With Jillian
On June 1, 2010, NBC debuted Losing It With Jillian, a spin-off of The Biggest Loser. In the show, Michaels visits the home and workplaces of family members for a week.

Losing It With Jillian originally ran on NBC in June and July 2010. As of January 2012, all eight episodes of the series are available for viewing online.

Contract with CBS Television Distribution
On May 6, 2011, CBS Television Distribution announced that Michaels had signed a multi-year deal to become a co-host of the panel-discussion show The Doctors, as well as to serve as a special correspondent on the CTD program Dr. Phil. Michaels had been a guest on The Doctors several times previously. On the show, Michaels hosted a recurring segment called Ask Jillian, which dealt primarily with nutrition and diet topics.

Michaels left The Doctors in January 2012 after half a season, because, she said, the arrangement "wasn't the fit both the show and I hoped for".

Charity work
Michaels works with a variety of charities including the UNHCR, the NFL's Play 60, Stand Up to Cancer, Working Wardrobes, Hope for Haiti, Sow a Seed, and Dress for Success. She also devotes time to animal welfare causes, and helped PETA rescue a racehorse from a slaughterhouse in 2012.

Criticism
The company Basic Research LLC and Michaels were sued in a class action suit for false advertising when marketing Jillian Michaels Maximum Strength Calorie Control, which claimed to promote weight loss by only taking two pills before a meal. Basic Research was given the "Most Outrageous" award for Quackwatch's 2010 Slim Chance Awards, which is awarded to "...promoters of weight loss schemes." Michaels was sued multiple times over the diet pills with her name on them. The lawsuits were eventually dismissed.

Personal life
Michaels publicly came out in 2012, but has stated, "Let's just say I believe in healthy love. If I fall in love with a woman, that's awesome. If I fall in love with a man, that's awesome. As long as you fall in love... it's like organic food. I only eat healthy food, and I only want healthy love!" She has credited the music video for Madonna's 1990 song "Justify My Love" with helping her acknowledge her sexuality.

From 2009 to 2018, Michaels was in a relationship with Heidi Rhoades. They adopted a two-year-old daughter from Haiti in May 2012, while Rhoades gave birth to a son that same month. They became engaged at an unknown date, but announced the end of their relationship in June 2018.

In 2018, Michaels began a relationship with fashion designer Deshanna Marie Minuto. They became engaged in November 2021 and married in July 2022.

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Big Hat

The Big Hat (ビッグハット) is an indoor ice hockey arena in Nagano, Japan with a capacity of 10,104 seated spectators. Its official name is the Nagano Wakasato Tamokuteki Sports Arena. The arena was completed and officially opened on December 10, 1995.

Location
Big Hat is the most central of the venues of the 1998 Winter Olympics that were constructed in the city of Nagano, approximately 2 km south of Nagano Station. White Ring, the venue for the figure skating and short track speed skating is a further 3.5 km south. Nagano Olympic Stadium, where the opening and closing ceremonies were held, is 8 km south of Big Hat. M-Wave, where the long-track speed skating events took place, is 5 km to the east. Finally, Aqua Wing Arena, which was the ice hockey B arena, is 5.3 km to the north of Big Hat.

Events
The ice hockey games from the 1998 Winter Olympics, including the men's and women's finals, were held at this arena. The rink served as the location of the Nagano Cup in 1996,2000,2001,2004, 2007 and last held in 2010. It was an ice hockey tournament held to commemorate the 1998 games, as well as many short track speed skating competitions. The Wakasato hall in the complex features a stage and theater seating, and frequently serves as a venue for music recitals and public meetings.

Specifications

 * Building area: 12,050 m2
 * Total floor area: 25,240 m2
 * Structure: Reinforced concrete, 4 floors above ground, 1 basement below
 * Capacity: 5,000

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Shouldn't this page be a redirection to TRIZ, as it is basically the same, only with an English name instead of an Russian name? --Abdull 23:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)


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Optical microsphere

Optical microspheres (photonic atoms) are one of the types of optical microresonators (also microcavities) employed commonly in photonic research; they provide high quality factor up to 1011. These optical resonators are used for active and passive photonic applications such as microlaser cavities and filters among many experiments that take advantage of very high levels of light confined on a small structure.

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Course (music)

A course, on a stringed musical instrument, is either one string or two or more adjacent strings that are closely spaced relative to the other strings, and typically played as a single string. The strings in each multiple-string course are typically tuned in unison or an octave.

Normally, the term course is used to refer to a single string only on an instrument that also has multi-string courses. For example, a nine-string baroque guitar has five courses: most are two-string courses but sometimes the lowest or the highest consists of a single string.

An instrument with at least one multiple-string course is referred to as coursed, while one whose strings are all played individually is uncoursed.

Rationale and types
Multiple string courses were probably originally employed to increase the volume of instruments, in eras in which electrical amplification did not exist, and stringed instruments might be expected to accompany louder instruments (such as woodwinds or brass). Eventually, however, they came to be employed to alter the timbral characteristics (the "tone") of instruments as well.

Strings within a multi-string course may both/all be tuned to the same pitch (e.g. mandolins); they may be tuned to the same pitch class but in different octaves (e.g. Tiple); or the strings may be tuned to different pitches, usually for special effect.

Examples of instruments that use two-string courses include: • Saz

• Bajo quinto

• Bajo sexto

• Baroque guitar

• Bouzouki

• Charango family

• Chitarra battente

• Cittern

• Cimbalom

• Cümbüş

• Eight-string bass guitar

• Gittern

• Lute

• Mandolin family

• Mandore (instrument)

• Oud

• Piano

• Portuguese guitar family

• Springtime, a seven string guitar with three coursed strings

• Tar

• Tres

• Twelve-string guitar

• Vihuela

• Viola guitar

Examples of instruments that use three-string courses include:

 * Saz
 * Cimbalom
 * Guitarrón chileno
 * Mandriola
 * Piano
 * Tiple colombiano
 * Twelve-string bass

Examples of instruments that use four- (or more) string courses include:

 * Cimbalom
 * Guitarrón chileno

As may be seen, some instruments contain courses with differing numbers of strings. A typical piano, for example, contains courses with one, two, and three strings, in different parts of its range.

Mandolins
All members of the mandolin family, except some versions of the lowest-pitched, have courses each of two or three strings, most commonly eight strings in four courses.

The exception is some varieties of mando-bass, which have four individual strings.

Baroque guitar
The baroque guitar has five courses, with the bottom four always double strung, and the top string (the "chanterelle") either double or single.

There are also several patterns of modern ten-string guitar but all have ten single strings, played individually.

Twelve-string guitar
The twelve-string guitar has twelve strings, in six courses. The courses are most often tuned E-A-D-G-B-E, similarly to a six-string guitar; however, older instruments were often tuned one tone lower D-G-C-F-A-D to reduce the tension on the neck, and commonly played with a capo on fret 2.

The lowest three courses (E-A-D) are normally tuned at octaves, with the primary string uppermost and the octave below it, while the upper two courses (B-E) are tuned to unison. The G course is either unison or at octaves.

On some electric twelve-string guitars, and most notably the Rickenbacker 360/12, the octave strings are below the primary strings.

Tiple

The national instrument of Colombia, the tiple Colombiano, has four courses of three strings each. Its higher-pitched relative, the tiple requinto, is similarly triple-strung.

The American tiple, a smaller instrument loosely derived from the Colombian tiple, uses two double-strung courses and two triple-strung courses.

Twelve-string bass
The electric twelve-string bass has twelve strings in four triple courses. Basses have also been built with six double courses and other configurations but these are very rare.

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User:ChrisRy5

Hello, welcome to my Wikipedia page and thanks for visiting. My Name is Chris and I am a Junior at Glens Falls High School and current owner of Orange Web Designs. Check out some of my contributions below. Most of the time i forget to log-in when editing a page so most edits will be under my IP address.  The other day I was browsing the internet and ran across an awesome site. It's called WPClipart, they are much like Open Clipart.com. There are over 13,000 free public domain pictures for use. I really advise that everyone who reads this should at least check the site out. http://www.wpclipart.com

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Blyth Arena

Blyth Arena was an ice skating arena in the western United States, located at Squaw Valley, California. It was built in 1959 as venue for ice hockey, figure skating competitions, and the opening and closing ceremonies of the 1960 Winter Olympics. With a seating capacity of 8,500, standing-room crowds of 10,000 were reported for the hockey games between the U.S. and the Soviet Union (on the penultimate day) and the U.S.-Czechoslovakia game during the final day. The elevation of the rink was 6200 ft above sea level.

Named for Charles R. Blyth, an investment banker who led the California Olympic Commission, Blyth Arena was open on its south side, enabling a view of the mountains. The 400m speed skating track was just to the south of the open side of the arena. This side of the arena also faced the 70m and 90m ski jumps and the slopes of Squaw Valley now known as the Red Dog. Following the Olympics, the wooden ski jump facilities were left unmaintained and slowly deteriorated over time. In 1963, the 400m speed skating track was replaced by a parking lot in spite of protests from California speed skaters; since at the time it was known to be the only mechanically frozen 400m track in the country. From 1963 to 1983, the Squaw Valley ski area operator appealed regularly to the state of California to have the arena torn down to provide additional parking.

Destruction
In 1982, the United States Department of Agriculture made a push for energy conservation. One part of that program was funding to improve insulation on many buildings. The U.S. Forest Service received some of that money to insulate the roof of the arena and the next year the roof collapsed in late March.

What was not appreciated at the time was that the roof was not built to hold much snow, but had survived for 23 years without a problem. The plan had always been that heat generated from the ice chilling equipment in the arena traveled to the ceiling, warmed the uninsulated roof, and melted the snow. With the energy conservation measures in place, the snow did not melt due to waste heat and the building collapsed under the weight. The arena was demolished that year (1983) and the site became additional parking for the ski area.

Although gone, Blyth Arena is remembered as playing a major role in Olympic ice hockey history, and to a lesser extent, in Olympic figure skating history, where the host country won the men's (David Jenkins) and women's (Carol Heiss) individual titles.

In addition to its use by the Olympics, the arena was for several years a site for the Worldwide Church of God's annual Feast of Tabernacles. Evangelists Herbert W. Armstrong and Garner Ted Armstrong spoke at the arena several times during the period that the Feast of Tabernacles was held in Squaw Valley. It should be mentioned that a snowcat was driven onto the roof to clear snow from the roof. The cat was able to drive onto the roof due to the record snow fall in the 82/83 season. The snowcat plowed the snow off of the roof which reduced the snow load. The roof design was a suspension system with steel columns, cables and pulleys that allowed the roof to adjust to changing loads. perhaps the suspension roof system failed due to the sudden and unprecedented travel of the roof once the snow load was removed.

Replacement
There is a new ice arena at High Camp at the top of the cable car tramway, at elevation 8200 ft. This rink is essentially an outdoor rink which is covered during late spring, summer and early fall. The roof panels are removed for the winter or the wind could potentially remove them. There is a set of Olympic rings hanging at this rink, causing many people to think that the 1960 Olympic figure skating and hockey were conducted on this new ice rink even though there is no seating around the rink nor any way for spectators to have accessed the rink in 1960.

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Talk:Charoset

I moved the recipe to wikirecipes.

40 ingredients, bananas
I can see that the forty ingredients - forty years recipe/story has already been tagged "dubious", and I'd like to add my own puzzled question: what was the 40th ingredient before bananas were introduced?? Emika22 (talk) 17:34, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Leftovers
Purim is 30 days BEFORE passover, so leftovers for humnasheen 11 months later isn't logical nor in my experience something that exists.Aviwollman (talk) 09:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Ginger
While not in Song of Songs, grated ginger is specifically mentioned to be added. to enhance the resemblance to mortar made with straw. https://cdn.fedweb.org/fed-90/2/5778%2520%25202018%2520%2520%2520PASSOVER%2520%2520Haroset%2520%2520workshop%2520%2520%2520%2520new%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%2520%25203.pdf

https://aish.com/48960481/ Ginger is one of the more common ingredients, globally. (Present in nearly every major tradition mentioned, and amazingly, currently absent from the page entire.) Drsruli (talk) 22:23, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Hutson, motivational speaker

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete (A7 speedy too) Ryan Norton T 08:21, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Don Hutson, motivational speaker
It's not an article Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk   23:16, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Twelve children seems somewhat unlikely - especially with that unfortunate taste in neckties    Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk   23:21, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
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 * The guy seems notable enough to merit an article, but none of the versions so far are salvageable. Delete and let some serious contributor recreate it. Ilmari Karonen 23:49, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete should have been speedied, just some huckster with some books and a fancy website if the article was good, but this is garbage(both the wife version and the vandalized version). Karmafist 20:57, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. Does he also "live in a VAN down by the RIVER"? (R.I.P. Chris Farley). MCB 23:11, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems rather an unfortunate series of events rather than an article. I vote delete and let somebody else have a go at a better article if truly warranted.--Daniel Lotspeich 08:32, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
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1925 Yugoslav Football Championship

The 1925 National Championship (Serbo-Croato-Slovenian: Državno prvenstvo 1925. / Државно првенство 1925.) was a football competition in the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. It was the second straight year that the club from Belgrade, Jugoslavija, has taken the championships.

Qualified clubs

 * Bačka Subotica (Subotica Football Subfederation)
 * Građanski Zagreb (Zagreb Football Subfederation)
 * Slavija Osijek (Osijek Football Subfederation)
 * Hajduk Split (Split Football Subfederation)
 * Ilirija Ljubljana (Ljubljana Football Subfederation)
 * SK Jugoslavija Belgrade (Belgrade Football Subfederation)
 * SAŠK Sarajevo (Sarajevo Football Subfederation)

Quarter finals

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Semi finals

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Finals

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Winning squad
Champions:

SK JUGOSLAVIJA (coach: Karel Blaha)
 * Károly Nemes
 * Milutin Ivković
 * Branko Petrović
 * Mihailo Načević
 * Alois Machek
 * Sveta Marković
 * Đorđe Đorđević
 * Boško Todorić
 * Dragan Jovanović
 * Stevan Luburić
 * Vladeta Đurić
 * Dušan Petković
 * Branislav Sekulić
 * Petar Joksimović

Top scorers
Final goalscoring position, number of goals, player/players and club.
 * 1 - 4 goals - Dragan Jovanović (Jugoslavija)
 * 2 - 3 goals - Branislav Sekulić (Jugoslavija)
 * 3 - 2 goals - Dušan Petković (Jugoslavija), Rudolf Hitrec, Franjo Giler, Emil Perška, Luka Vidnjević (all Građanski Zagreb)

title: 1925 Yugoslav Football Championship


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User:Hyad/SE/Project Questions

public tramb.database.user.UserDatabase userDatabase;
 * isUser --> IsUser
 * isAdmin - does by process of elimination
 * if we make an Admin class - have a check to make sure there is only one admin
 * Do we comment JUnit test?
 * getUser(String username, String password) and getUser(String username)
 * should first one be set password
 * removed extra

JTextField student_fname; JTextField student_lname; JTextField student_grade_level; JTextField student_username; JTextField student_password;
 * I DID NOT change TeacherEditStudent to extends UserWindow {...}
 * We probably should pass db into TeacherEditStudent and AdminWindow
 * remake UML& Javadoc with private JList and Set of students &
 * Maybe make toString for a User to be that person's username

10/26/05
 * Image file filter?
 * Do we want we want "Clear Fields" and "Save Changes" to edit word list section?

Stuff

 * Use JUnit test
 * Make R1 executable jar file

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