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Talk:Time travel in fiction

Time travel as a defining characteristic of science fiction
I feel that this section of the article is inconsistent with wiki's general vision and scope as it just refers to one piece of mumbo jumbo by some random sci-fi writer who happens to feel that science fiction IS A SUB GENRE of time travel(not the other way around) i don't think it contributes anything to the article, it is just one mans opinion that i have never heard repeated and most of all it is clearly BIASED! WIll remove section soon unless someone objects —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.11.149 (talk) 00:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 23:44, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Well now it's gone and I kinda want to read it (even though you are probably right) Crazytonyi (talk) 07:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Use of Time Travel in Harry Potter
In the 'Harry Potter' series, time travel is used as an important tool in the plot of the book 'Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban'. But the article makes no mention of this.

Thanks. 59.184.171.78 (talk) 05:36, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Early stories featuring time travel: Time Travel in Islamic literature
According to Islamic literature Muhammad told his followers that he was awaken by Arch Angle Gabriel who took him for a journey through heavens where he saw hell and heaven. But when he came back, no time has passed and the water that he used for ablution was still flowing and the door nob was still vibrating. He also said that the ride he used had a speed such that "it's first step lands at the distance that your eye can see"

which is speed of light, as we see with the speed of light. Thought we can add this up in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.31.21 (talk) 13:45, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

 * But traveling in one step "the distance that your eye can see" doesn't make sense as the speed of light--it only would if the distance D that "your eye can see" in light-seconds was exactly equal to the time T for "one step" in seconds (since light always travels at a rate of 1 light-second per second). Besides, technically the "distance that your eye can see" is many light-years if you look at the stars (though the author of the passage wouldn't have known that), if you could cross that distance in the same time as it takes to make a single step, you would be traveling much faster than the speed of light. Anyway, aside from the issue of whether this passage anticipates any modern scientific notions (answer: no), it doesn't really seem like time travel, more like time suspension or time compression (the opposite of how time dilation works in the theory of relativity, where if you travel in space at close to the speed of light and return to Earth, much more time will have passed on Earth than for you). Hypnosifl (talk) 18:33, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Temporal war merge proposal
I propose that Temporal war should be merged into a new section on this page under the existing ==Time travel themes== section, and that Time war should also redirect there. A time war is merely the concept of time travel being used by multiple parties (obviously always in a fictional work) attempting to combat each other be attacking one another's history. bd2412 T 12:59, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree. Especially considering that the article, as it now exists, is essentially nothing more than a overly large quotation from a single author (so large, indeed, that it likely raises copyright issues).  Why not just merge whatever might be appropriate into the main article and then propose this one for deletion?  NewYorkActuary (talk) 21:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Newspaper from the future merge proposal
Newspaper from the future is another short article focused on a specific time travel theme (in this case, it is an object that has traveled through time, specifically a future newspaper or comparable communication). I would merge it under "themes" here, with a slightly more generic header of "Communication from the future". bd2412 T 15:41, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. This article could eventually cover all the various prominent time-travel themes. Any themes that have more than a couple of parahraphs about them could then be spun out to their own article. It's important to remember that the theme should be notable in and of itself, and not merely a collection of notable works with the theme. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 16:42, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Lengthy quote from Nahin (Time Wars section)
User:BD2412 A brief comment as to why I removed the lengthy Nahin quote -- As I noted above, I do believe that the length of the quote raises copyright issues. I see from your edit summary that you don't agree, but a reading of WP:COPYQUOTE suggests that your position is not as strong as you think it is. Be that as it may, there is also the fact that much of this block quote consists of Nahin quoting the works of others. It's difficult to see how this quoting-of-quotes is necessary for the article. But perhaps you'll disagree with that, as well. Two minor comments -- First, the main thrust of Nahin's writing on time wars is that, even if one accepts the premise of time travel, the notion of a time war is illogical. That seems to me to be the thing that really should be quoted. Second, describing Nahin as being "noted for ... " is just asking for someone to amble by and drop a "by whom?" template on it. I won't be the one to do that, but someone else might. And considering that Nahin already has his own article, the description seems unnecessary. If you care to respond to these various comments, I'll be interested in hearing your views on them. NewYorkActuary (talk) 00:44, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Under Harper & Row v. Nation Enterprises, two paragraphs out of a 600+ page work, which are of no greater significance to the work than any other two paragraphs to be found there, being used for our educational purpose, would not come close to raising copyright concerns. I would agree that there are many more points that Nahin makes (in several of his books on time travel) that would benefit this article as a whole. He has an entire book, Time Travel: A Writer's Guide to the Real Science of Plausible Time Travel, giving writer's advice on how to use time travel without too badly misrepresenting what physics allows. As an aside, we have an article on Nahin at all because I wrote one, after observing the large number of his works that are used in Wikipedia as references in various fields. The qualifier about his being a writer on time travel I added in response to your edit summary, which seemed to suggest that it was just a "quote from mathematician", who was therefore implied not to have anything of interest to say on the subject of time travel in fiction. I have adjusted that description a bit. As for the block consisting of Nahin quoting the works of others, we could of course make our own compilation of such quotes to the same effect, by why bother when this one is available? bd2412  T 01:51, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Against current merges specifically Time loop and Time slip
No consensus to merge. - jc37 06:31, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

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Both are extremely notable on its own right. I think both can be expanded, merging notable subject prevents possible expansion. Valoem  talk   contrib  17:29, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The time loop and time slip articles existed for years with less content than they have now in their respective sections. Once you expand the sections, you can split them off into their own articles. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 08:37, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The reason I request the split is specifically based on how google functions. A merged article does not auto fill in the infobox, I believe merge should be used when notability is uncertain, not for large genres. There is a rule called WP:NOPAGE, but I personally disagree with how that is implemented. Valoem   talk   contrib  16:25, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * , why not re-propose them, but this time open up separate sections here for each proposal (something that didn't seem to be done the first time around)? I'll be happy to support each of the proposals.  You might also want to re-propose Alternative Future, just to make that merger "official", as well.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 17:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Why not just expand the sections if you're certain they can hold an article on their own? That would save us a lot of time and trouble. The current 2.5 paragraphs and a wall of see-alsos can easily be a section in this article instead of an article of its own. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 04:07, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

This is now the merge discussion, I'll try to sum it up: From a technical viewpoint, I don't see why a small sub-genre of time travel needs its own article when it can be covered in three or four paragraphs. I also suggest expanding first and un-merging later instead of keeping the current state of affairs of "someone will expand it eventually". I have personally added three of the five citations in that article, adding the comparison to puzzle-solving, so I feel like I have an adequate (but not comprehensive) grasp of what can be added to the article. This is why I merged it in the first place, because there is so little to cover on the topic. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 09:27, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Against merge: the previous merge was BOLD and therefore can be reverted. The topic has potential for expansion.
 * For merge: "time loop" is a theme of time travel in fiction and naturally fits into this article. The time loop article is very short and takes up an appropriately-sized section in this article. The time loop article has not been expanded since it was re-split, and stood for years in a state similar to its current short version.
 * I see no conflict here. As with many other topics in the encyclopedia, we can have some discussion of the topic in a parent article, and expanded discussion in a separate article. Compare Barack Obama and Early life and career of Barack Obama. bd2412  T 16:24, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That Obama article is very long, so there's a good reason to split it off. What I'm saying is instead of saying "the time loop article will eventually get expanded", why not expand the section, and when it's large enough to support its own article, spin it out.
 * Time loop stood around for nearly a decade with no proper citations, tons of original research, and an example farm. If you or anyone can expand it, that's great. But right now, it's just two paragraphs and a list of "see also"s, not really much of an article, and it's perfectly fine as a section. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 18:24, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not at all against having it as a section. I am merely pointing out that it can paradoxically be a section and a separate article at the same time, under the right conditions. bd2412  T 14:58, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Support both merges. It makes sense to address all of these related themes in a single article, with split-offs occurring only as and when they are needed.  And as BrightRoundCircle points out, we are nowhere near the point where it is needed.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 22:59, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Support merge - reviewing articles, it doesn't seem that there would be enough material to justify having these as seperate now or in the future. If this changes, a fork can be created later- as they are now, they should be merged. PeterTheFourth (talk) 21:44, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No merge, clearly both are notable on its own right. I will defer my opinion to though.  Valoem   talk   contrib  23:15, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Support merge, I am persuaded by the discussion. Things that are notable in their own right can still appear as part of a larger article. bd2412  T 23:31, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Against merge due to the usefulness of the 'see also' section Andrewrutherford (talk) 02:12, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This can easily be incorporated through the addition of déjà vu, butterfly effect, and eternal return into the article. They would be even more useful in context. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 10:49, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * After the additions of the sections "butterfly effect" and "precognition" to the article, and the addition of "eternal return" to the see-also list, there are no more missing wikilinks. This should solve any loss of usefulness from the other articles' see-also lists. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 13:22, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Further edits: incorporated the plot-device parts from time slip, did not merge the article. What's left is time loop, which can very easily be a part of this article. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 13:39, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Support merge The limited material on Time slip and Time loop on both pages can be part of this article, no point in having three separate articles that discuss the same thing. HealthyGirl (talk) 15:00, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge Time slip and Time loop to sections in Time travel in fiction. The two smaller articles contain duplicate material, and would likely always remain stubs. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:14, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * BrightRoundCircle just so you are aware the two editors above have questionable motivations. They are not here because of the notability of this fictional concept, but to prevent fringe information regarding the allegations of its occurrence in real life (see this discussion here). Now that I have looked into this, are is more than enough to warrant a split. Also to prevent anti-fringe POV pushing it is best of allow this article as is. Valoem   talk   contrib  21:10, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The fringe POV issues should not affect this discussion; the merge is only about the plot device. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 21:35, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with BrightRoundCircle on this point. bd2412  T 23:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * So are we in agreement that we can discounted the votes from LuckyLouie and HealthyGirl? Valoem   talk   contrib  01:23, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It will be up to the closing administrator to weigh their arguments. bd2412  T 02:04, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * While it appears like we are voting, this is not a vote. This is a discussion meant to reach consensus by addressing legitimate concerns held by editors through a process of compromise. For example one contributor was concerned about losing the see-also sections, so I did my best to reasonably address it by expanding the article to include sections that link to the articles in the see-also sections. Now no information from the see-also section will be lost should a merge occur. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 14:20, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * My argument against is that the real world allegations hold some weight. This maybe more than just something covered in fictional works. Valoem   talk   contrib  14:22, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

 * Against merge for the reasons given above by Valoem. That a "Time Slip" is an alleged paranormal phenomenon, not just a plot device in fiction, is reasonably well-established. In the same way that God, Ghosts, Flying Saucers, Ley Lines, etc, probably don't exist but do have their own "supporting" literature (and debunking literature), sufficient to give them Wikipedia notability, so does the so-called "Time Slip".Ghughesarch (talk) 22:21, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Proposal. To those of you who are arguing against the merger on the basis of the paranormal aspects, how about just creating a new article called Time slip (paranormal)?  NewYorkActuary (talk) 23:03, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what the Time Slip article was until some time last year when it was the victim of a series of edits by pushers of what has been described above as an anti-fringe POV. []Ghughesarch (talk) 23:30, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Ghughesarch, thank you for pointing that out -- I didn't realize that the article had such a contentious history. When looking through the history, particularly the AfD discussion that led to the deletion of the original article, I saw that my proposal had already been made by someone else.  But one big difference between then and now is that the AfD turned Time slip into a redirect to Timeslip (disambiguation), whereas we are now discussing whether it should be a redirect to the instant article.  And there is another big difference -- unlike the situation that existed when Valoem got the article restored (after re-writing it to focus on the plot device), we now have a Time Travel in Fiction article that has benefited greatly from the work of BrightRoundCircle and BD2412.  So, how about a compromise?  We merge the material in Time slip over to here, establish a new article for Time slip (paranormal), and agree to keep the Time slip article as "neutral territory" (i.e., turn it back into a redirect to Timeslip (disambiguation).  Are there any concerns that this compromise does not address?  NewYorkActuary (talk) 00:27, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * As far as this page is concerned, I think that would probably work. I will however make a prediction that the reappearance of some salvaged elements of the old article, under its new name of Time slip (paranormal) may well have us all back here in a year's time or less, but that is one of the regrettable charms of Wikipedia.Ghughesarch (talk) 00:46, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * For those of you not following this discussion is 'real time', the links to the article Time slip (paranormal) are no longer red-linked. A new article now exists and houses material related to the paranormal meaning of the term (including its treatment in fiction).  As things stand now, virtually all of the relevant science-fiction material in Time slip already is present in the instant article.  Shall we go ahead and formalize the merger, turning Time slip back into a redirect to Timeslip (disambiguation)?  The disambiguation page already has an entry for the science-fiction plot device, so all that will be needed there is to change its target from Time slip to the appropriate section of the instant article.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 01:29, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * With the new article regarding the paranormal I have no issues with the merge until the plot device can be expanded, however that exact version did not survive AfD, the anti-fringe POV pushers do not allow any subject which "is not accepted by mainstream science" with misapplications of WP:REDFLAG and WP:MEDRS, they have been disruptive when it comes to this subject I would recommend AfD it see if the article stands. On the contrary, I also believe the paranormal myth was perpetuated by the fictional plot device. Also to note user claimed I was personalizing disputes, he reverted against consensus here and has also been stalking any fringe article I created since this debate. He nominated Articles for deletion/Annabelle (doll). Can we really say an editor's judgment is sound when he believes a doll covered in multiple documentaries, over a period of three decades, and featured in two mainstream films cannot have an article on Wikipedia because the "claims are red flags"? This editor needs to reacquaint himself with our general GNG policies. Also Louie please reread WP:NPA I am questioning your motivations on fringe based on our past interactions, not your character. This not a personal attack. As it stand you and HealthyGirl are the only two editors here from the fringe noticeboards everyone else is talking about the plot device.  Valoem   talk   contrib  02:06, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

@Valoem. I recently reminded you that personal attacks on Talk pages as a method to discount other editors opinions are against policy, and asked you to cease attacking me here. You apparently refuse (?) and now you claim I'm "stalking" you? I'm not sure why you are so worked up here, have I somehow offended you personally in the past? Also, please take a look at the edit history of Annabelle (doll) and you'll see it was myself who researched and located reliable sources and expanded that article. Thanks. - LuckyLouie (talk) 12:03, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Please reread above, I am questioning your motivations regarding anti-fringe POV. There should in fact be mention of this in the article your reasoning for merging due to fringe aspects is not based on policy. Valoem   talk   contrib  15:47, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Look, my single contribution to this discussion was to recommended a merge. Please review that diff. There was no mention of "fringe" at all. If I wanted to argue for merging on the basis of WP:FRINGE, I would have done so. But I didn't. Regardless, questioning another editor's motivations or inferring that they are biased against a topic on a Talk page is incredibly inappropriate. The only time it might be appropriate to attempt to persuade others that an editor's opinion should be discounted in an article Talk page discussion is if that editor has a WP:COI, is an WP:SPA or is the WP:SOCK of a blocked user. Otherwise, personal or behavioral issues should be discussed on user Talk pages, or if policy violations are involved, brought to a notice board like WP:AN/I. If you sincerely feel that another editor's behavior has shown they are WP:NOTHERE to build an encyclopedia or that they lack the necessary WP:COMPETENCE to be an effective editor, you can seek a community ban, or discretionary sanctions. Again, all of that should not be conducted in article Talk page discussions. If you wish to pursue personal or behavioral issues at the appropriate venue I will respond there, but not here. Thanks.- LuckyLouie (talk) 14:50, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Assuming your fellow editors are incapable of reviewing evidence is equally inappropriate. Here your actions are clear. Had you come to this discussion and voted delete, of course I would take your vote seriously, however this is not what happened. You claim no fringe bias, yet why on a topic unrelated to a fringe concept (which may also be notable) would you make a post here (Fringe_theories/Noticeboard) essentially canvassing HealthyGirl to this discussion? This is a topic involving a plot device used in fiction and has nothing to do with fringe. Making a post on the fringe noticeboards in order to merge is highly unacceptable. Valoem   talk   contrib  00:41, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

You complained about stalking before and I tried to gloss over it for the sake of expediency, but now it blew up. You should really take your claims of stalking and harassment to an admin. This is a merge discussion, we can't arbitrate stalking and harassment here. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 02:37, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Re-degenaration into a list
Putting this out as a notice, after extensive cleanup the article is again degenerating into a list. When giving an example, describe (using reliable sources) why that particular example is important other than just being an example. Bright☀ 14:53, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
 * . Before, the section named eight examples without explaining why any of them are important, except calling one a "classic". After, the section explains (though without citations and very briefly, but still...) why the examples matter. Bright☀ 15:59, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

El anacronópete - Enrique Gaspar y Rimbau
I added a reference for "El anacronópete" (1887) for being the first mechanical device for time travel in Science Fiction, but it was erased. Apparently, the world only speaks English, and all the other cultures and languages must be ignored... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.14.46.36 (talk) 10:08, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Or, if you look at what actually happened, you changed a sentence from its original meaning and didn't provide a reference. Bright☀ 19:26, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit warring by certain IP addresses on the time travel in fiction article
Can someone please put an end to the edit warring by certain IP addresses that has been occurring on the time travel in fiction article ever since I edited the article on the 24th of March in 2018 at 3:17 pm (AEDT) which involved removing extra spaces and replacing capital letters in certain templates with lower-case letters, as soon as possible? After an IP user added the extra spaces back and replaced the lower-case letters back with capital letters for the third time, I clicked the 'undo' button on his or her edit and explained in the edit summary that I "reverted continuous format changes by different IP addresses", and since then certain IP users have changed the formatting three more times, for a total of six edits, because it's annoying. -- PK2 (talk) 11:30, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Location of the sidebar
WP:SIDEBAR says it should be top right, not in the see also section. Not that concerned myself. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 09:17, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess the Spatial anomalies in fiction sidebar should be a navbar in that case. I'll expand it. Bright☀ 10:02, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure about that. The location of this sidebar is important on the articles it was primarily designed for. But less so on tangentially related articles such as this one. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 10:40, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm making a navbar and then editors can choose which one to use. Bright☀ 10:44, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks good. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 12:28, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

tvtropes.com as source
and anyone else who has an opinion.. and were removed as "self-published sources". It is true that they are crowdsourced lists, but I've found them to be reliable. And as they are simply pointing to self-documenting sources, they seem acceptable to me in this case. At the very least, I'd put them in with a tag that a better source is needed, rather than dropping them completely? -- Beland (talk) 19:36, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

 * Tvtropes is not be used, as detailed on RSN. You could use User-generated source or something to tag them if you really wanted to put them back in. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 19:53, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Rip Van Winkle? Encino Man?
The article on Time Travel mentions Rip Van Winkle under "History of the time travel concept", yet the story is conspicuously missing from this article. Would it be considered a "Time Slip" or is suspended animation based time travel a separate category (or missing subsection)?

Similarly, what about something like Encino Man? I would argue that it meets the standard of "Time Slip" since the title character doesn't have control over it and can't return back to their time.

Is this article too heavy on Time Travel fiction that is distinctly science fiction? Crazytonyi (talk) 07:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Tales of Count Lucanor
An IP added: "One of the first examples in Western literature about a travel to the past is found in the twelfth tale in Don Juan Manuel's Tales of Count Lucanor (1331-1335), under the title What Happened to a Dean of Santiago de Compostela and Don Yllán, the Grand Master of Toledo", which was removed as unsourced. I have no knowledge of the story, but someone might want to see if it has been discussed in a source for this purpose. Cheers! BD2412 T 16:38, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Subarctic

Alaska
Murmansk is above the arctic circle. Anchorage (pop. ~295000) may be largest subarctic city. Also Alaska has rail transport in the form of the Alaska Railroad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.145.224.34 (talk) 21:24, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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Is Scotland really in the Subarctic? I should think most of Scotland has more than 3 months with average temperatures 10°C or more. Edinburgh has almost 5 months: Edinburgh climate

Aberdeen has 4 months. Even Kirkwall on the Orkney Islands - north of Scotland - has 4 months.

Reykjavik, Iceland, has a subarctic climate. And Tromsø, Norway.

Parts of Scotland are subarctic. For example the Cairngorms which makes up a hefty percentage of Scotland's total land area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.203.12 (talk) 18:24, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Not explored untill...what about Indigenous people?
Quote: "Except for a few parts of Europe where the winters are relatively mild due to prevailing wind patterns, subarctic regions were not explored until the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. Even then, the difficulty of transportation ensured that few settlements (most of them created for mining) lasted long - the ghost towns of the Yukon, Northwest Territories and increasingly Siberia illustrate this.

This statement completely forget the Indigenous peoples who actually were there first - the Indians of northern Canada, the Nenets people, the Komi people etc. Orcaborealis (talk) 16:15, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

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Classic Masters (Grand Funk Railroad album)

Classic Masters is a compilation album from Grand Funk Railroad. Released in 2002, it is one in a series by Capitol Records.

It was intended to replace 1991's Capitol Collectors Series compilation, although track-wise they are identical except for one song. Both albums have 15 tracks, but Classic Masters includes "Take Me" whereas Collectors Series has "Inside Looking Out". The only other difference is the order of the tracks on the disc.

Classic Masters is 24-bit remastered whereas Collectors Series is credited as being mastered from the original stereo mixes. Classic Masters should be considered the better of the two CDs sound wise, but the Collectors Series does have better liner notes.

This CD as a sampler to the recently reissued/remastered Grand Funk catalogue on Capitol.

Track listing
All songs written and composed by Mark Farner except where noted.
 * 1) "We're An American Band" (We're An American Band) (Don Brewer) – 3:26
 * 2) "Time Machine" (On Time) – 3:45
 * 3) "Walk Like a Man" (We're An American Band) (Brewer/Farner) – 4:05
 * 4) "Some Kind of Wonderful" (All The Girls In The World Beware!!!) (John Ellison) – 3:22
 * 5) "Gimme Shelter" (Survival) (Mick Jagger, Keith Richards) – 6:18
 * 6) "Shinin' On" (Shinin' On) (Brewer/Farner) – 5:56
 * 7) "Heartbreaker" (On Time) – 6:34
 * 8) "Rock & Roll Soul" (Phoenix) – 3:29
 * 9) "The Loco-Motion" (Shinin' On) (Gerry Goffin/Carole King) – 	2:46
 * 10) "Footstompin' Music" (E Pluribus Funk) – 3:46
 * 11) "Mean Mistreater" (Live Album) – 4:55
 * 12) "Feelin' Alright" (Survival) (Dave Mason) – 4:26
 * 13) "Take Me" (Born To Die) (Brewer/Craig Frost) – 5:06
 * 14) "Bad Time" (All The Girls of The World Beware!!!) – 2:56
 * 15) "I'm Your Captain/Closer to Home" (Closer To Home) – 9:59

Personnel

 * Grand Funk – producer
 * Jimmy Ienner – producer
 * Terry Knight – producer
 * Todd Rundgren – producer

 * Cheryl Pawelski – compilation producer
 * David K. Tedds – compilation producer
 * Robert Vosgien – remastering


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Baba jethu

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. — J I P | Talk 07:55, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Baba jethu
(Poorly-formatted) article claims that Baba Jethu is most famous saint in India. Google has never heard the name. DS 18:58, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete Tintin
 * Delete looks like a prank to me. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  08:38, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Aw c'mon! I mean, it's just so ... famous! And remember, "Any person who wishes sweetly and honestly with heart, Shri Jeth Baba fulfills its wishes." Are we sure we want to DELETE such an .. oh, yes. Yes, we are. It's totally unverified. Eaglizard 15:53, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Talk:Kota, Rajasthan

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There is another article with Kota_(India) name. It was linked from Kota page originally. I have put some template there, which we can start putting information on. Once it is reasonably written we can merge there two pages (Kota_(India) and Kota, Rajasthan)

Ashish G 18:57, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Of course, merge asap deeptrivia 05:34, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree, they should be merged. I propose that the title "Kota, Rajasthan" be retained; there may be other small places in India by the name Kota. Does it need an admin to do the merging? ImpuMozhi 23:23, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Just go ahead and do it, and make Kota (India) a redirect page to here.

 * However, shouldn't Kota and Kota district be separate articles? Kota has a population of around 0.5 million while the whole district has a population of around 1.6 million. Matthewmayer 02:18, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

 * They can be, but lets start by adding content on this page itself, and when we have sufficient info to make another article, that will be done. Ashish G 21:58, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I agree it to be merged, I belong to this city and suggest to retain "Kota,Rajasthan". enlighting

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Population
A warning was issued (above) that population stateed is from district, but in "Demographics" the population of the district (1,6) remain as the city population. Please change it.--83.33.219.254 (talk) 17:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Places of Interest
Does the Places of interest section really need to list out each and every spot in the city? Even the New Delhi page doesn't list out those many.

I suggest we remove the non-important ones and keep those which are bona fide tourist destinations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthrophilic (talk • contribs) 14:10, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I agree with your suggestion. Shyamsunder (talk) 20:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * Removing the following:
 * Sawan phuhar Water Park,the first and only amusement water park in the Hadoti region. (uncited advertisement)
 * Haryali & Maheshwari Resorts cum restaurants, (advertisement)
 * Umed Bhavan Palace(Luxury Hotel) (Can be included under a separate header for hotels but not really a place of tourist interest, as such)
 * Hadoti Traffic Garden (Not really notable)
 * Godavari Dham Mandir, a temple (redundant, mentioned twice.)

 * Should Agamgarh Saheb Gurudwara and Tirupati Balaji Temple be included ? I don't think they're really places of interest.

Anthrophilic (talk) 12:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Chambal River
Suggest removal of section, entirely. The Chambal river is not really relevant to the article. A separate article already exists for the same.

Anthrophilic (talk) 13:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC) population of kota is 1950491(census 2011) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.252.137.67 (talk) 13:28, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protection request
Looking at the number of vandalism attends by multiple IPs and a new user (possibly a SPA account of, I've requested semi-protection for the article. They are continuously changing the population and settlement type to metropolitan. See http://www.census2011.co.in/census/city/90-kota.html. And i'm tired of it... Shivamsetu (talk) 10:39, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Padlock-dash2.svg Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Requests for page protection. -- El Hef  ( Meep? ) 13:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Adding Places of Interest
I am thinking of adding new section Places of Interest with sources. I saw it in the earlier versions of this page. Please help in making the new section more concise.Vibhss (talk) 12:18, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

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the page is quite ok but in college section there must be some more name like 1: Govt. college kota. 2:J.D.B. girls college kota. Lalitnagar9772 (talk) 20:09, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
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Carrentonline
Wikipedia is not... an instruction manual, the yellow pages, etc. In other words: advertisement and manual for non notable company JoanneB 19:20, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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Anton Delvig

Baron Anton Antonovich Delvig (Анто́н Анто́нович Де́львиг; Anton Antonowitsch Freiherr von Delwig; 17 August 1798 – 26 January 1831) was a Russian poet and journalist of Baltic German ethnicity.

Life
Anton Delvig was of Baltic-German descent from paternal side. He studied in the Tsarskoye Selo Lyceum together with Alexander Pushkin and Wilhelm Küchelbecker with whom he became close friends. Küchelbecker dedicated a poem ('O, Delvig') to him; this poem was later set to music by Dmitri Shostakovich in the ninth movement of his fourteenth symphony. Delvig is also mentioned in Pushkin's famous novel in verse Eugene Onegin, being compared to the young poet Lensky. Delvig commissioned a portrait of Pushkin from Orest Kiprensky, which Pushkin bought from Delvig's widow after his friend's death. In 1820, Delvig met Yevgeny Baratynsky and introduced him to the literary press.

In his poetry, Delvig upheld the waning traditions of Russian Neoclassicism. He became interested in Russian folklore and wrote numerous imitations of folk songs. Some of these were put to music by the composers Alexander Alyabyev and Mikhail Glinka.

As a journalist, Delvig edited the periodical Northern Flowers (1825–1831), in which Pushkin was a regular contributor. In 1830–1831, he co-edited with Pushkin the Literaturnaya Gazeta, which was banned by the Tsarist government after information laid by Thaddeus Bulgarin.

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Tokyo International University

Tokyo International University (TIU) (東京国際大学, Tōkyō Kokusai Daigaku) is a private, research-oriented liberal arts university which was founded in 1965. Its main campus is located in Toshima, Tokyo, where it moved from its original location in Kawagoe, Saitama Prefecture.

History
The university was founded in 1965 by Taizō Kaneko (金子泰藏) as International College of Commerce (国際商科大学). The International College of Commerce was established on the site of what is today TIU’s Campus 1 in Kawagoe.

In 1986, the International College of Commerce was renamed Tokyo International University (東京国際大学). In 1989, Tokyo International University of America (TIUA), along with an American Studies Program, were established in partnership with Willamette University in Oregon, USA. In 2018, the program celebrated its 30th class of students.

In 2014, TIU launched the English Track (E-Track) Program. This program provides Japanese and international students with bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees courses in an all-English curriculum. TIU began to offer new undergraduate IT courses and a new master of science major in Digital Business and Innovation in April 2018. In 2019, the E-Track Alumni Association was established to connect students with E-Track’s growing international network of graduates.

Graduate schools

 * Graduate School of Commerce
 * Graduate School of Clinical Psychology
 * Graduate School of Economics (English-medium program and Japanese program)
 * Graduate School of International Relations (English-medium program and Japanese program)

Undergraduate schools

 * Faculty of Commerce
 * Faculty of Economics
 * Faculty of Language Communication
 * Faculty of International Relations
 * Faculty of Medical and Health
 * Faculty of Humanities and Social Sciences

Campus
In 2023, Tokyo International University established a new Global Campus in Ikebukuro. Located near one of the busiest hubs of Tokyo, the Ikebukuro Campus hosts the university's international programs. The land where the Ikebukuro campus was built was acquired through a bidding process to redevelop the Tokyo Mint Bureau site, following the Mint's relocation to Saitama in 2012. TIU's plan won this competition. The land, which neighbors Sunshine City, was passed over to the university in October 2020, and the campus facilities opened in September 2023. The English Track Program, as well as other educational globalization functions, are hosted at Ikebukuro campus. The Ikebukuro campus also hosts the International Relations and Language Communications Faculties.

Institute for International Strategy
TIU has an affiliated think tank, the Institute for International Strategy. The IIS was founded to conduct interdisciplinary research on issues of strategic international importance from global and Japanese perspectives. It has established an international and local network of researchers and practitioners in the many fields of international affairs - politics, diplomacy and security, business and economics, and public policy.

The Institute’s International Relations faculty host the Global Dialogue visiting speaker series. Recent guest speakers include Daniel R. Russel, former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for East Asia and Special Assistant to U.S. President Barack Obama, who played a leading role in the U.S.’ Asia pivot strategy.

In 2021, TIU’s IIS became an official collaborating institution of the European Council for Nuclear Research/ Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire (CERN)’s Future Circular Collider (FCC) study. TIU is one of only three Japanese institutions collaborating on this project alongside the High Energy Accelerator Research Organization and the University of Tokyo.

Alumni

 * Hideo Yokoyama, novelist.
 * Daisuke Namikawa, voice actor
 * Kenji Ōtsuki, Musician (Kinniku Shōjo Tai)
 * Toku, Musician
 * Hidenori Iwasaki, composer
 * Hiroji Miyamoto, Musician (Elephant Kashimashi)

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Strongly correlated material

Strongly correlated materials are a wide class of compounds that include insulators and electronic materials, and show unusual (often technologically useful) electronic and magnetic properties, such as metal-insulator transitions, heavy fermion behavior, half-metallicity, and spin-charge separation. The essential feature that defines these materials is that the behavior of their electrons or spinons cannot be described effectively in terms of non-interacting entities. Theoretical models of the electronic (fermionic) structure of strongly correlated materials must include electronic (fermionic) correlation to be accurate. As of recently, the label quantum materials is also used to refer to strongly correlated materials, among others.

Transition metal oxides
Many transition metal oxides belong to this class which may be subdivided according to their behavior, e.g. high-Tc, spintronic materials, multiferroics, Mott insulators, spin Peierls materials, heavy fermion materials, quasi-low-dimensional materials, etc. The single most intensively studied effect is probably high-temperature superconductivity in doped cuprates, e.g. La2−xSrxCuO4. Other ordering or magnetic phenomena and temperature-induced phase transitions in many transition-metal oxides are also gathered under the term "strongly correlated materials."

Electronic structures
Typically, strongly correlated materials have incompletely filled d- or f-electron shells with narrow energy bands. One can no longer consider any electron in the material as being in a "sea" of the averaged motion of the others (also known as mean field theory). Each single electron has a complex influence on its neighbors.

The term strong correlation refers to behavior of electrons in solids that is not well-described (often not even in a qualitatively correct manner) by simple one-electron theories such as the local-density approximation (LDA) of density-functional theory or Hartree–Fock theory. For instance, the seemingly simple material NiO has a partially filled 3d band (the Ni atom has 8 of 10 possible 3d-electrons) and therefore would be expected to be a good conductor. However, strong Coulomb repulsion (a correlation effect) between d electrons makes NiO instead a wide-band gap insulator. Thus, strongly correlated materials have electronic structures that are neither simply free-electron-like nor completely ionic, but a mixture of both.

Theories
Extensions to the LDA (LDA+U, GGA, SIC, GW, etc.) as well as simplified models Hamiltonians (e.g. Hubbard-like models) have been proposed and developed in order to describe phenomena that are due to strong electron correlation. Among them, dynamical mean field theory (DMFT) successfully captures the main features of correlated materials. Schemes that use both LDA and DMFT explain many experimental results in the field of correlated electrons.

Structural studies
Experimentally, optical spectroscopy, high-energy electron spectroscopies, resonant photoemission, and more recently resonant inelastic (hard and soft) X-ray scattering (RIXS) and neutron spectroscopy have been used to study the electronic and magnetic structure of strongly correlated materials. Spectral signatures seen by these techniques that are not explained by one-electron density of states are often related to strong correlation effects. The experimentally obtained spectra can be compared to predictions of certain models or may be used to establish constraints to the parameter sets. One has for instance established a classification scheme of transition metal oxides within the so-called Zaanen–Sawatzky–Allen diagram.

Applications
The manipulation and use of correlated phenomena has applications like superconducting magnets and in magnetic storage (CMR) technologies. Other phenomena like the metal-insulator transition in VO2 have been explored as a means to make smart windows to reduce the heating/cooling requirements of a room. Furthermore, metal-insulator transitions in Mott insulating materials like LaTiO3 can be tuned through adjustments in band filling to potentially be used to make transistors that would use conventional field effect transistor configurations to take advantage of the material's sharp change in conductivity. Transistors using metal-insulator transitions in Mott insulators are often referred to as Mott transistors, and have been successfully fabricated using VO2 before, but they have required the larger electric fields induced by ionic liquids as a gate material to operate.

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Arlington Memorial School

Arlington Memorial High School is a rural high school (grades 6–12) in Arlington, Bennington County, Vermont and part of the Arlington School District. In 2018, it had about 220 students and a faculty of 35 teachers.

In 2018 - 2nd Highest Academic Achieving High School in Vermont by U.S. News & World Report (silver medal)

In 2017 - Named a “Best High School in America” by U.S. News & World Report (silver medal)

The new Mack Performing Arts Center and Wes Carlson Studio for Dance and Theater is used by students and community members alike. Its 140-seat theatre, courtyard, and stage provide the venue for a variety of events.

History
In 1921, Arlington Memorial School was constructed. In 1922, students were then moved into the new Town high school. This was the first high school of the Town of Arlington, rather than the individual districts of Arlington. An 1892 legislation act of the Vermont Legislature required towns to address the means of education, rather than the districts of each town. The school was named in memorial to all of the Arlington Veterans of every war. Before Arlington Memorial school was constructed, students from each district school would have to take the train to North Bennington or Manchester in order to attend upper-level classes.

Arlington Memorial School fire
On November 9, 1940, Arlington Memorial school burned down. The town was quick to assemble and addressed the disaster in two stages. The first stage was the short term, students would meet in family homes in order to graduate on time. While the second, long-term goal, was to build a new building on top of the old one. The old building was starting to get overcrowded and the fire could be considered a blessing and a curse.

Arlington athletics
Arlington Memorial High School competes in the Marble Valley League Class D Division. They are also a Division 4 Vermont High School. The Boys Soccer Team currently competes in a Marble Valley League Class C schedule due to the dominance of the Class D league in past years. The Boys Overall record in 2017 was 8–5–1 as of April 4, 2018. They lost in the Quarter-Finals in 2017 to South Royalton of the Central Vermont League. The Girls Soccer team recently just won the Division 4 Vermont State Title. The Girls overall record in the 2017 season was 14–0 not including the playoff games. With the playoff games, the girls are 18–0, making a perfect, undefeated season. To the surprise of many, Arlington also has a relatively successful baseball team. In the 2021 season, the Varsity boys team posted a record of 11-2 in the regular season, winning the Marble Valley League. After winning a quarterfinal game against Rivendell Academy, they were eliminated from playoff contention in the semifinal round by Blue Mountain Union High School, finishing with a 12-3 overall record.

Baseball State Championships

 * 1989 Baseball Champions
 * 1990 Baseball Champions
 * 1995 Baseball Champions

Basketball State Championships

 * 1971 Boys Basketball Champions
 * 1983 Boys Basketball Champions
 * 1984 Boys Basketball Champions
 * 1985 Boys Basketball Champions
 * 1989 Boys Basketball Champions
 * 1990 Girls Basketball Champions
 * 1991 Girls Basketball Champions
 * 1991 Boys Basketball Champions
 * 1992 Boys Basketball Champions
 * 1993 Girls Basketball Champions
 * 1998 Girls Basketball Champions
 * 1998 Boys Basketball Champions
 * 2000 Girls Basketball Champions
 * 2001 Girls Basketball Champions
 * 2003 Girls Basketball Champions
 * 2003 Boys Basketball Champions
 * 2004 Girls Basketball Champions
 * 2005 Girls Basketball Champions

Soccer State Championships

 * 1982 Boys Soccer Champions
 * 1984 Boys Soccer Champions
 * 1985 Boys Soccer Champions
 * 1986 Boys Soccer Champions
 * 1989 Girls Soccer Champions
 * 1989 Boys Soccer Champions
 * 1990 Girls Soccer Champions
 * 1990 Boys Soccer Champions
 * 1991 Girls Soccer Champions
 * 1992 Girls Soccer Champions
 * 1995 Boys Soccer Champions
 * 2002 Girls Soccer Champions
 * 2009 Girls Soccer Champions
 * 2017 Girls Soccer Champions
 * 2018 Girls Soccer Champions
 * 2018 Boys Soccer Champions
 * 2023 Girls Soccer Champions

Softball State Championships

 * 1983 Softball Champions
 * 1984 Softball Champions
 * 1985 Softball Champions
 * 1986 Softball Champions
 * 1987 Softball Champions
 * 1989 Softball Champions
 * 1990 Softball Champions
 * 1993 Softball Champions
 * 1999 Softball Champions
 * 2001 Softball Champions

School awards

 * 2007 - Named a “Best High School in America” by U.S. News & World Report (silver medal)
 * 2008 - Named a “Best High School in America” by U.S. News & World Report (bronze medal)
 * 2009 - AP Scores Above State & National Average
 * 2009 - 5th Highest State Scores for NECAP Science
 * 2009 - 3rd Highest State Scores for NECAP Reading & Writing
 * 2009 - Named a "Top School" by The Johns Hopkins University
 * 2010 - 3rd Highest Academic Achieving High School in Vermont
 * 2013 - Named a “Best High School in America” by U.S. News & World Report (silver medal)
 * 2016 - 4th Highest Academic Achieving High School in Vermont
 * 2016 - Named a “Best High School in America” by U.S. News & World Report (silver medal)
 * 2017 - Named a “Best High School in America” by U.S. News & World Report (silver medal)
 * 2017 - 2nd Highest Academic Achieving High School in Vermont by U.S. News & World Report (silver medal)

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Talk:Plumpton railway station

Opening
When was it opened? Rich Farmbrough 19:01, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Opening hours format
Is the time in 12-hour or 24-hour format? Autarch (talk) 12:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Disused platforms
There are the remains of some disused platforms visible just to the west of the current ones. Does anyone know the history of these? Was the station moved? Lonegroover (talk) 11:50, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Fashoda Incident

map
A map with the British and French possessions marked, and the proposed railways drawn would make this article MUCH more interesting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.13.112 (talk • contribs)
 * You have spoken and been heard, except for the railways part. - BanyanTree 20:38, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The map included does not represent the territorial claims/possesions of 1898. It shows those of 1912-1914. Changes between 1898 and 1912 include the status of Morocco and the Congo, the borders of Cameroon and the borders and posession of Libya. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.120.200.129 (talk) 15:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Having looked further in English and French, there does not seem to have ever been any plans for an E/W French railway, let alone seriously-mooted and influential ones like Rhodes's Cape-to-Cairo route. "Le Transsaharien" was the long-sought N/S French railway from Algeria to the Niger, not from Dakar to Djibouti. The nearest I can find to anything similar (aside from the present-day AU plans for such a line) is [http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1040801/f370.highres this 1870s plan for the Transsaharian which proposed maybe someday possibly maybe extending a prospective Algerian line east from the Niger to the west shore of Lake Chad. The French were more than happy to just monopolize riverain and caravan routes, which was part of why Marchand was all off on his lonesome to begin with.

 * See also here. — Llywelyn II   14:50, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

neutral?
well written article but lacks neutrality. the exposed view is obviously pro-Britain, i speak for the military comparison. so the british were superior in both naval and ground force terms... well, well, well. i'm gonna check the french version, hope it's not gonna be a translation of the english version as often. Louis R14 04:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think that this article is a good overview of what happened, and why. It may seem "pro-Britain" but merely because they were the successful party! It IS neutral; If there is to be discussion on relative strengths of British and French naval and military forces, then other pages are the best place to lay that out.

 * Nevertheless, it is a fact that Great Britain was rampant at this time, and at the very peak of her economic, imperial and maritime power.

The Fashoda Incident is interesting because it is that tipping point between the previous centuries of French/British conflict and ascendancy, and the future that was to revolve around Germany's continental hegemonic aspirations and the superpower era of the US and USSR.

 * A very interesting period indeed!Omnes 14:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * End point maybe, but not tipping point. — Llywelyn II   14:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

The article is clearly pro-british with some disturbing exaggerations that almost amount to historical revisionism. It should be flagged as lacking neutrality IMHO — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:101:F000:700:91A4:E32B:7292:4815 (talk) 00:07, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Wiki rules say that neutral means we cover all the main RS. and we do so. They agree that France felt ity lost badly on the episode. Anon has not found a RS that supports his POV Instead he erased part of a quote from a leading scholar--which I restored. Rjensen (talk) 01:56, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Accurate?
I think the accuracy of this article could be disputed. The assertion that Britain's motive during the Fashoda incident was to secure the territory for a Cape to Cairo railway has been questioned by historians, most notably Robinson and Gallagher in their book "Africa and the Victorians." Said authors assert rather that Britain's conquest of the Sudan was driven mainly by a desire to prevent other Powers from controlling the Nile. By the 1890s Egypt had replaced Constantinople as Britain's main base for protecting India from Russia, and Britain thereafter pursued a policy of protecting the Nile for fear that if it was taken by another Power the water supply to Egypt could be cut off. It was in defense of the Nile (and ultimately the Indian colony) that Britain confronted the French in the Sudan - not in the pursuit of a Cape to Cairo railway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Imthatdude804 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Quite. The British governments and ministers were quite clear on that point that it was fundamentally about access to the Upper Nile, as described (i.a.) here and here. — Llywelyn II   14:28, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Formatting
Why are there two [edit] links, side by side, but nothing next to the first two section headers? Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 05:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's an effect of the graphics. I've reduced the problem slightly Nunquam Dormio (talk) 13:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 22:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

blue and white Niles are mislabelled
The blue nile is labelled as the white and vice versa in the map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.234.252.65 (talk) 12:25, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Must've been fixed, but it is still an ugly map. — Llywelyn II   14:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Sources for article expansion
See above, regarding the French rail plans and two sources with many more details on the incident itself (such as Kitchener showing up in Mahdist boats but wisely writing ahead to explain that situation to the French). — Llywelyn II   14:50, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Reminds of the Anglo-Frech confrontation in North America a century earlier
During what in Germany is called the 7 Year War, the first real world war, being fought on 3 continents and the oceans. The outcome of that war prevented the French to link their colonies in the Missisippi Basin (Lousiana) and the Great Lakes (Detroit) with those on the Saint Lawrence River (Québec and Montréal), what would have prevented the "Go West" of the USA to the Pacific Ocean. L.Willms (talk) 13:22, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

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Neewah
Neologism dicdef. Thue | talk 19:02, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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Hurricane Fefa

Hurricane Fefa was the only tropical cyclone during the 1991 Pacific hurricane season to directly impact the Hawaiian Islands. The sixth tropical storm, fourth hurricane, and second major hurricane of the season, the storm developed from a tropical wave on July 29 about 975 mi south-southeast of Cabo San Lucas. It moved west-northwestward, and under generally favorable conditions it strengthened to attain peak winds of 120 mph on August 2. Fefa turned to the west towards Hawaii, and slowly weakened until dissipating near the island of Hawaii.

The system produced rough surf, moderate wind gusts, and locally heavy rainfall during its passage over Hawaii. No damages or deaths were reported. Two people were injured in the island of Hawaii due to lightning strikes from the storm.

Meteorological history
A westward-moving tropical wave exited the coast of Africa on July 17. It tracked across the unfavorable Atlantic Ocean and Caribbean Sea without development, and after crossing Central America, it entered the eastern Pacific Ocean on July 25. The cloud pattern and convection began to become better organized on July 28, and shortly thereafter a mid-level circulation developed. It continued to organize, and subsequent to the development of a low-level circulation it formed into Tropical Depression Seven-E while located about 975 mi south-southeast of Cabo San Lucas on July 29. Operationally, tropical cyclone advisories were not initiated until visible satellite images confirmed the low-level circulation twelve hours after the depression formed.

Located over warm waters with fair upper-level outflow, the depression quickly intensified and attained tropical storm status twelve hours after forming. Upon strengthening into a tropical storm, Fefa developed a curved cloud band over the southern and eastern portion of the center. The storm slowly strengthened as it tracked west-northwestward, a motion due to the presence of a high-pressure ridge to its north. Fefa initially strengthened slowly; on the day after it became a tropical storm the center was located on the western edge of the deep convection. On July 31, convection began increasing over the center, and it is estimated it intensified into a hurricane later that day while located about 710 mi southwest of the southern tip of Baja California.

Initially, Fefa was forecast to intensify slightly after reaching hurricane status to reach peak winds of 80 mph. However, it quickly intensified after a large, ragged eye developed early on August 1. On August 2, the eye organized further, and Fefa strengthened to attain a peak intensity of 120 mph while located about 940 mi west-southwest of Cabo San Lucas. Based on higher Dvorak numbers, the hurricane could have peaked with winds stronger than 120 mph. Fefa encountered cooler waters shortly after peaking in intensity, and subsequently began to weaken. The hurricane gradually weakened as it turned more to the west, a change in motion due to building high pressures to its north, and on August 3 the winds of Fefa dropped to 85 mph due to cooler water and dry air.

As Fefa turned more to the west, it paralleled the cooler waters, allowing the eye to remain distinct as the hurricane remained well-organized. Despite moving over marginally warm sea surface temperatures and becoming involved with the Stratocumulus cloud field to its north, the hurricane restrengthened on August 4 to reach a secondary peak intensity of 105 mph while located about 1,265 mi east-southeast of Hilo, Hawai'i. After maintaining 105 mph winds for about 18 hours, Fefa weakened slightly due to increasing wind shear from a cold-core trough as it entered the Central Pacific Hurricane Center area of responsibility. As the shear increased, the cyclone weakened more rapidly, and on August 6 it weakened to a tropical storm while located about 650 mi east of the island of Hawaii. Initially, forecasters predicted Fefa to turn to the northwest to the north of the Hawaiian Islands. However, the storm continued moving almost due westward as it steadily weakened. Aircraft reconnaissance flew into Fefa three times as it neared Hawaii. Late on August 7, Fefa weakened to a tropical depression a short distance of the island of Hawaii, and early on August 8 the depression began dissipating and degenerated into a tropical wave after moving onshore. The remnants tracked west-northwestward and passed south of the Hawaiian Islands until dissipating on August 9 to the northwest of Kauai.

Impact
The prolonged westward track of Hurricane Fefa produced swells of up to 15 ft in height. The swells hit eastward facing beaches along the island of Hawaii. The swells washed debris and sea water onto coastal roads near Punaluu Black Sand Beach, resulting in the roads being closed following the storm. Southwestern Maui experienced rough surf, as well. Despite being a weak tropical depression and a tropical wave while moving through the Hawaiian Islands, Fefa produced locally strong wind gusts of up to 50 mph in the islands of Hawaii and Maui.

Prior to moving across the island of Hawaii, strong thunderstorms developed in the northeastern portion of the remnant circulation of Fefa. The thunderstorms developed further as they moved over the slopes of Mauna Kea and Kohala. The thunderstorms produced heavy rainfall in areas, resulting in flash flooding in Kohala and Hamakua. Hurricane Fefa resulted in no known deaths. Lightning from the storm caused two injuries. A man in Hawaii Volcanoes National Park was hurt when lightning struck where he was walking. A man in Hilo was burnt when lightning moved through telephone wires. The storm resulted in no reported damage.

Even so, the name was retired by the World Meteorological Organization in the spring of 1992 from future use in the eastern Pacific. It was replaced with Felicia for the 1997 season.

title: Hurricane Fefa


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