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This artical seems to be several pieces of information that are related only in name and would be better suited to a disambiguation page with a colection of stubs. I would appreciate if someone who knows about the subject could do this appropriatly and add more information to each stub.

also, Aengus seems to have some information about the girl/woman called Caer, but it is very unclear. If you could assist with that as well, I would appreciate it.-- Akako  |  ☎  19:25, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

 * For sure. Why don't we put the information on the mythological Caer at Caer Ibormeith (her full name) and just leave an 'other meanings' notice here? QuartierLatin1968 [[Image:Flag of Anarcho syndicalism.svg|20px|El bien mas preciado es la libertad]] 04:11, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

What is this?
This is full of waffle, sweeping generalisations and half-truths. A caer was primarily a fortress and is a common element in hill-fort names: if it was always "a royal residence" Wales would have literally scores of them! Also completely unreferenced, false etymology (corrected), and so forth. The royal court - the llys - was not by any means bound to be a fort and often was on circuit, moving from place to place. This needs drastic revision, so much so I hardly know where to start! Enaidmawr (talk) 23:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

 * I have to agree with this. The article is very badly written by someone who knows very little about the subject. Caer is NOT a royal fort, it is just a 'fort'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.104.173.66 (talk) 00:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

 * Fully agree with above comment. Just returned to this and given it a substantial pruning. Not sure what that leaves us, but hope it's an improvement. Enaidmawr (talk) 23:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I think that we should take out the reference to 'Royal'. Yes a royal family might have lived in a Caer for some part of the year but equally they might have lived in a hunting lodge, or in a hall, or in tents (which they did when out touring around) or in fact anywhere. The word Caer has no implicit association with 'Royal' at all and so including such a reference only muddies the water.EoinBach (talk) 15:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I have also removed the referencs to hill forts in England, I don't see what refering to them adds to this article. Caer is simply a fortified place in Welsh, and those places would be called Bryngaerau in Welsh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EoinBach (talk • contribs) 15:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Good edit. Should have been bolder last time and gone that far myself! You're only partly right about bryngaer(au) though, as it's a modern word coined for "hillfort" (bryn "hill" + caer); caer is far older, of course, and just means "fort"/"fortress" etc. I'm almost tempted to remove the picture too : although Dinefwr could be described as a caer in Welsh, modern or medieval, I'm not sure what that proves here. This article was started on a false assumption, and there's not much left! Enaidmawr (talk) 20:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Caerfyrddin
I removed this from the list of placenames with Caer in them in Welsh, not because it doesn't contain the word Caer as it clearly does but because the meaning was given as the 'Caer of Myrddin (Merlin)" - this is not historically correct. Myrddin comes from Moridunon - fort by the sea and the form is recorded, this then changed into Myrddin and Caer was added when the meaning of the 'din' at the end was lost, to give Caerfyrddin. While Myrddin (Merlin) is associated with the town this is actually only came about because the town was already Caerfyrddin and not the otherway around.EoinBach (talk) 15:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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Cyrillus

Cyrillus, Greek jurist of the 5th century, was a professor in the ancient Law School of Berytus (present-day Beirut), and one of the founders of the oecumenical school of jurists (τῆς οἰκουμένης διδάσκαλοι). This school preceded the succession of Anastasius to the Eastern empire (AD 491), and paved the way for Justinian's legislation.

His reputation as a teacher of law was great; and from the fragments of his works which have been preserved it may be inferred that his merit as a teacher consisted in his direct use of ancient sources of law, and in interpreting the best writers, such as the commentary of Ulpian on the edict and the Responsa Papiniani.

He wrote a treatise on definitions (υπομνημα των δεφινιτων), in which, according to a statement of his contemporary Patricius, the subject of contracts was treated with great precision, and which supplied the materials for many important scholia appended to the first and second titles of the eleventh book of the Basilica. He is generally styled "the great" to distinguish him from a more modern jurist of the same name, who lived after the reign of Justinian, and who compiled an epitome of the Digest.

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Friedrich Hollaender

Friedrich Hollaender (in exile also Frederick Hollander; 18 October 1896 – 18 January 1976) was a German film composer and author.

Life and career

He was born in London to a Jewish family, where his father, operetta composer Victor Hollaender, worked as a musical director at the Barnum & Bailey Circus. Young Hollaender had a solid music and theatre family background: his uncle Gustav was director of the Stern Conservatory in Berlin, and his uncle Felix Hollaender was a well-known novelist and drama critic, who later worked with Max Reinhardt at the Deutsches Theater.

In 1899 Hollaender's family returned to Berlin. His father began teaching at the Stern Conservatory, where his son became a student in Engelbert Humperdinck's master class. In the evening he played the piano at silent film performances in local cinemas, developing the art of musical improvisation. By the age of 18 he was employed as a répétiteur at the New German Theatre in Prague and also was put in charge of troop entertainment at the Western Front of World War I.

Having finished his studies, he composed music for productions by Max Reinhardt and became involved in Berlin's Kabarett scene. Together with Kurt Tucholsky, Klabund, Walter Mehring, Mischa Spoliansky and Joachim Ringelnatz he worked in venues like Reinhardt's Schall und Rauch ensemble at the Großes Schauspielhaus or the Wilde Bühne led by Trude Hesterberg at the Theater des Westens in Charlottenburg, where he established the Tingel-Tangel-Theater cabaret in 1931.

In 1919 he married the actress Blandine Ebinger; the couple divorced in 1926. Their daughter Philine later became the wife of the cabarettist Georg Kreisler. Hollaender had his final breakthrough when he wrote the film score for The Blue Angel (1930), including the most popular song "Falling in Love Again (Can't Help It)", performed by Marlene Dietrich. He later married Leza Lidow.

He had to leave Nazi Germany in 1933 because of his Jewish descent and first moved to Paris. He emigrated to the United States the next year, where he wrote the music for over a hundred films, including Destry Rides Again (1939), A Foreign Affair (1948), The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T (1953 Academy Award nomination) and Sabrina (1954). Many of his songs were again made famous by Marlene Dietrich. He can be seen as the piano accompanist in A Foreign Affair (on the songs, "Black Market", "Illusions" and "Ruins of Berlin"). He received four Academy Award nominations for composition. As "Frederick Hollander", he also wrote the semi-autobiographical novel Those Torn From Earth, released in 1941, which details the flight from Germany that many Jewish members of the film industry embarked on after the Nazis came to power and instituted the Nuremberg Laws. He divorced Elizabeth Hollander in 1946 in Los Angeles.

In 1956 he returned to Germany and again worked for several years as a revue composer at the Theater Die Kleine Freiheit in Munich. He made a cameo appearance in Billy Wilder's film comedy One, Two, Three (1960) as a Kapellmeister leading a dance band and singing the German vocals to the song Yes! We Have No Bananas.

Hollaender died 1976 in Munich and is buried in the Obergiesing Ostfriedhof.

Selected songs

 * 1926 "Raus mit den Männern", famous feminist song performed by Claire Waldoff.
 * 1929 "Eine kleine Sehnsucht" ("A Little Longing") sung by Grete Mosheim.
 * 1930 "Ich bin von Kopf bis Fuß auf Liebe eingestellt" w.m. (words and music) Hollander (with English words by Sammy Lerner became known as "Falling in Love Again (Can't Help It)"). Introduced by Marlene Dietrich in the film Der Blaue Engel.
 * 1931 "Wenn ich mir was wünschen dürfte" in film Der Mann, der seinen Mörder sucht and in the 1974 film The Night Porter (Italian: Il Portiere di notte) by Liliana Cavani.
 * 1935 "My Heart and I" w. Leo Robin. Introduced by Bing Crosby in the 1936 film Anything Goes
 * 1936 "Awake in a Dream" w. Leo Robin. Introduced by Marlene Dietrich in the film Desire.
 * 1936 "The House That Jack Built for Jill" w. Leo Robin. Introduced by Bing Crosby in the film Rhythm on the Range.
 * 1936 "Moonlight and Shadows" w. Leo Robin. Introduced by Dorothy Lamour in the film The Jungle Princess.
 * 1937 "Whispers in the Dark" w. Leo Robin. Introduced by Connie Boswell in the film Artists and Models
 * 1937 "It's Raining Sunbeams" w. Sam Coslow. Introduced by Deanna Durbin in the film One Hundred Men and a Girl.
 * 1937 "True Confession" w. Sam Coslow. Theme of the film True Confession.
 * 1938 "You Leave Me Breathless" w. Ralph Freed. Introduced by Fred MacMurray in the film Cocoanut Grove.
 * 1939 "Strange Enchantment" w. Frank Loesser. Introduced by Dorothy Lamour in the film Man About Town.
 * 1939 "See What the Boys in the Back Room Will Have" w. Frank Loesser. Introduced by Marlene Dietrich in the film Destry Rides Again.
 * 1940 "I've Been in Love Before" w. Frank Loesser. Introduced by Marlene Dietrich in the film Seven Sinners.
 * 1940 "Moon Over Burma" w. Frank Loesser. Introduced by Dorothy Lamour in the film Moon Over Burma.
 * 1948 "Black Market" w.m. Hollander. Introduced by Marlene Dietrich in the film A Foreign Affair.
 * 1948 "Illusions" w.m. Hollander. Introduced by Marlene Dietrich in the film A Foreign Affair.
 * 1948 "The Ruins of Berlin" w.m. Hollander. Introduced by Marlene Dietrich in the film A Foreign Affair.
 * 1955 "Sentimental Moments" w. Ralph Freed. Introduced by Joan Bennett in the film We're No Angels.

Published CD-ROMs
Friedrich Hollaender: ...Ich bin von Kopf bis Fuss auf Musik eingestellt, 4 CDs with 20 pages Booklet, Membran Music Ltd., 2005; Distributed by Grosser und Stein GmbH, Pforzheim, ISBN 3-86562-044-2.

Selected filmography

 * Prince Cuckoo (1919)
 * The Woman's Crusade (1926)
 * Burglars (1930)
 * Road to Rio (1931)
 * The Fate of Renate Langen (1931)
 * Three Days of Love (1931)
 * Caught in the Act (1931)
 * The Man in Search of His Murderer (1931, actor)
 * The Yellow House of Rio (1931)
 * Storms of Passion (1932)
 * The Empress and I (1933)
 * The Only Girl (1933)
 * Forgotten Faces (1936)
 * A Son Comes Home (1936)
 * Here Comes Mr. Jordan (1941)
 * Background to Danger (1943)
 * The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T (1953)

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European Scout Region (World Organization of the Scout Movement)

The European Scout Region is one of six geographical subdivisions of the World Organization of the Scout Movement, headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland, with a satellite office in Brussels, Belgium.

It is a vital part of the global Scouting community, plays a pivotal role in shaping the future leaders of Europe. It is a vibrant network of 40 National Scout Organizations, fostering a spirit of unity and camaraderie among young people across geographical and cultural boundaries. The region is not confined to Europe alone; it extends its reach to countries like Cyprus, Turkey, and Israel, reflecting the inclusive and diverse nature of Scouting. Through its various initiatives and programs, the European Scout Region is committed to promoting personal development, mutual understanding, and a sense of European citizenship among its members.

Members
The European Scout Region comprises 40 National Scout Organizations that are members of the World Organization of the Scout Movement, and services Scouting in Western and Central and Eastern Europe, inclusive, for cultural reasons, of Cyprus (technically not part of Europe, but a member-state of the European Union) and Turkey (which spans across two continents), and, as a member of the United Nations' Western European and Others Group, Israel (despite being part of Asia due to them being barred in its own continent's organizations under the Arab-led boycott). The World Organization of the Scout Movement recognises at most one member organisation per country. Some countries have several organisations combined as a federation, with different component groups divided on the basis of religion (e.g., France and Denmark), ethnic identification (e.g., Bosnia-Herzegovina), or language (e.g., Belgium).

All the formerly communist states of Central and Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union have developed or are developing Scouting in the wake of the renaissance in the region. These include Albania, Bulgaria, East Germany, Hungary, Poland, Romania, and the successor states to Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and the Baltic nations independent of the former Soviet Union. Of these, Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary have been most successful in regrowing their Scout movements and are very well-developed, thanks in part to the existence of Scouts-in-Exile movements for the diaspora of each nation.

Denmark

 * Faroe Islands – Føroya Skótaráð
 * Greenland – Grønlands Spejderkorps

United Kingdom

 * Gibraltar – The Scout Association of Gibraltar

Previous members

 * Albania – In 2014, the membership of Beslidhja Skaut Albania was terminated by WOSM with hopes to establish a new National Scouting Organization.

Countries with no Scout organisation

 * Andorra
 * Vatican City

European Regional Scout Conference
The European Scout Conference is the governing body of the European Scout Region and meets every three years. Its purposes are:

 * To further the Scout Movement within the European Scout Region by promoting the spirit of world brotherhood, cooperation and mutual assistance amongst Scout associations within the Region;
 * To foster the idea of a European citizenship, based on the conscience of a common heritage and destiny;
 * To develop cooperation among European youth;
 * To ensure proper implementation of the decisions and policies laid down by the World Organization of the Scout Movement, which affect the European Scout Region.

The 20th European Scout Conference was hosted by Guidisme et Scoutisme en Belgique and was held in Brussels, Belgium, from 17 to 21 July 2010.

The 21st European Scout Conference took place in Berlin, Germany, in August 2013, hosted by the Ring Deutscher Pfadfinderverbände.

The 22nd conference took place in 2016 in Norway. The 23rd conference took place in 2019 in Split, Croatia.

The 24th conference was hosted by Scouting Nederland. It took place in Rotterdam from 22 to 26 July 2022.

The 25th conference will be hosted in Austria in 2025 by Pfadfinder und Pfadfinderinnen Österreichs.

European Regional Scout Committee
The European Regional Scout Committee is the executive body of the European Regional Scout Conference and is composed of six elected volunteer members.

The functions of the European Regional Scout Committee are: The members of the European Regional Scout Committee are elected for a three-year term by the European Regional Scout Conference, and may be re-elected for an immediate second term. The members, elected without regard to their nationality, do not represent their country or National Scout Organisation but the interests of the Scout Movement as a whole, similar to Members of the World Scout Committee.
 * To put into effect the resolutions of the European Regional Scout Conference and to fulfill any duty the European Regional Scout Conference may assign to it;
 * To fulfill tasks the Constitution of the World Organization of the Scout Movement assigns to it;
 * To act as an advisory body to the World Scout Committee;
 * To act as an advisory body for member organisations of the European Scout Region requiring advice and assistance.

The Regional Director (professional position) and the Treasurer of the European Scout Region (volunteer position) are ex-officio members of the European Regional Scout Committee. The Chairman of the European Scout Foundation also regularly attends meetings of the European Regional Scout Committee.

European Regional Scout Office
The European Regional Scout Office serves as secretariat of the European Scout Region and is one of six Regional Offices of the World Scout Bureau, the secretariat of the World Organization of the Scout Movement. A Regional Director heads the European Regional Scout Office and is assisted by a number of professional staff. Currently, the European Regional Scout Office has offices in Geneva, Switzerland and Brussels, Belgium.

European Regional Scout Plan 2010–2013
In 2010, the 20th European Scout Conference adopted the European Regional Scout Plan 2010–2013, which summarises the Region's main areas of work, objectives and action planned for the triennium 2010–2013.

Working Groups and Core Groups
In order to achieve the objectives set out by the European Regional Scout Plan 2010–2013, five thematic Working Groups and three supporting Core Groups were set up in December 2010, composed of volunteers from different member organisations of the European Scout Region and supported by members of the European Regional Scout Committee and the European Regional Scout Office.

Working Groups:
 * Growth through Quality
 * Volunteering
 * Embracing Change
 * Youth Empowerment
 * Partnerships with other Regions

Core Groups:
 * Educational Methods (including Youth Programme and Adult Resources)
 * Organisational Development
 * External Relations and Funding

Regional Scouts administered directly by WOSM
The needs of Scout youth in unusual situations has created some interesting permutations, answerable directly to the World Scout Bureau. For years there was an active Boy Scouts of the United Nations in Geneva, as well as 84 Scouts of the European Coal and Steel Community, an early precursor to the European Union.

Cooperation
As one of the five geographical subdivisions of the World Organization of the Scout Movement the European Scout Region developed close relationships with a number of other Regions, in particular with the Arab Scout Region and the Africa Scout Region.

The European Scout Region also supports multilateral and bilateral relationships between National Scout Organisations of the European Scout Region with Scout associations of other Regions.

This region is the counterpart of the Europe Region of the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts (WAGGGS). The European Scout Region has a strong relationship with the Europe Region of WAGGGS. To further develop their relationship, the two Regions had a Joint Regional Office during the late 1990s in Brussels, Belgium, which was closed again in 1998.

An informal Joint Regional Committee composed of the two Regional Committees continues to discuss matters of mutual interest and supports the planning and running of joint youth activities and training events.

The two Regions also maintain a Joint Communication Platform (Europak), which provides information for member organisations of the European Scout Region and the Europe Region WAGGGS. Together published a monthly newsletter called Eurofax (this newsletter was already published by the European Scout Office before the joint office was opened, and reverted to WOSM when the joint office closed.

The European Scout Region represents the World Organization of the Scout Movement in a number of relevant inter-governmental institutions as well as non-governmental platforms in Europe. This includes, in particular, the European Youth Forum (YFJ), which operates within the Council of Europe and European Union areas and works closely with these two bodies. It is also represented in the Advisory Council on Youth of the Council of Europe and has regular contacts with relevant institutions of the European Union.

A WOSM joint Eurasian-and-European Scout meeting was held in Kyiv in April 2009.

In 2023, it was decided to dissolve the Eurasian Region, on 30 September. Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan joined the European Region on 1 October, while Kazakhstan and Tajikistan joined the Asia-Pacific Region.

Activities
The European Scout Region offers a number of sharing and training activities for its member organizations, a number of which are organised jointly with the Europe Region of WAGGGS. The main purpose of these activities is to provide opportunities for sharing and exchanging of experiences and best practices as well as training for adult volunteers and professionals involved in Scouting.

Among regularly held events are:
 * The Academy – an annual sharing and training event for Scout and Guide associations in Europe
 * The Symposium – held every three years in preparation of the European Scout Conference
 * The Chief Volunteers and Chief Executives Meetings – networking events for people occupying similar positions
 * The International Commissioners Forum – sharing and networking event held in preparation of the European Scout and Guide Conference
 * Training Commissioners Meeting – networking event for people occupying similar positions
 * Education Methods Forum – sharing and networking event for people involved in Youth Programme and/or Adult Resources

The European Scout Region also supports informal networks of member organisations of the European Scout Region which provide platforms for dialogue and exchange in specific areas:
 * North-South Network – development and support of partnership projects between NSOs in Europe and, in particular, Africa
 * Overture Network – sharing and networking of NSOs working in the area of diversity
 * Odysseus Group (European Sea Scouting Network) – sharing, networking and training of NSOs engaged in Sea Scouting

European Scout Jamboree
The European Region of WOSM was the organizer of the European Scout Jamboree, which has been organized twice, in both cases as a dry run for a World Scout Jamboree organized in the same country within a few years. European jamborees were open to youth between the ages of 11 and 17, however many adults are involved as Scout leaders or as members of the IST (International Service Team),

Past European Scout Jamborees include:
 * 1st European Scout Jamboree in Dronten, The Netherlands, 1994
 * 2nd European Scout Jamboree in Hylands Park (Chelmsford, United Kingdom), 2005

The European Jamboree 2020, a joint event between WOSM and WAGGGS' European Regions, was planned to take place on Sobieszewo Island, in Gdańsk, Poland, with a target of 30,000 participants. However, due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the event was initially postponed in April 2020 to summer of 2021, before being cancelled in November 2020.

Roverway
Roverway is a joint activity of the European Region of WOSM and the Europe Region of WAGGGS, a ten-day event open for youth aged 16 to 22, who are members of the senior branches of member organisations of WOSM or WAGGGS. The activity was introduced in 2003 (as a follow-up to the Eurofolk event that existed from 1977 to 1997) and consists usually of two stages: a "journey" with small units of Scouts making their way to the main camp, which is the second stage.

Roverway is usually held every three years and hosted by a member organisation of the European Scout Region:
 * Roverway 2003 in Leiria, Portugal; motto "People in motion"
 * Roverway 2006 in Florence, Italy; motto: "Dare to share"
 * Roverway 2009 in Úlfljótsvatn Scout Center, Iceland; motto: "Open up"
 * Roverway 2012 in Evo, Hämeenlinna, National Campsite of the Guides and Scouts of Finland, Finland; motto: "See. Feel. Follow"
 * Roverway 2016 in France; 2015 was skipped as not to overlap the 23rd World Scout Jamboree, per decision of the March 2011 meeting of the Joint Committee; motto: "Sur la Route", which translates 'On the Road".
 * Roverway 2018 in International Scout and Guide Centre Zeewolde, the Netherlands; motto: "Opposites Attract"
 * Roverway 2024 in Norway; jointly hosted by the Norges Speiderforbund and Norges KFUM-KFUK-speidere; motto: "NORTH of the Ordinary"; 2021 was skipped due to the planned WOSM/WAGGGS European Jamboree 2020

Non-WOSM European Scouting
Two other multinational Europe-specific Scout organizations exist, not linked to WOSM, the only geographic area to have such. These are the Confédération Européenne de Scoutisme and the Union Internationale des Guides et Scouts d'Europe.


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Naumachius

Naumachius (Ναυμάχιος) was a Greek didactic poet.

Of his poems, seventy-three hexameters (in three fragments) are preserved by Stobaeus in his Florilegium (4.22b.32, 4.23.7, 4.32c.76).). Although the poem begins with the notion that the ideal life of an intelligent woman is one in which she remains unmarried, living in the company of like-minded women, it turns to advice on how a woman should conduct herself in the second-best life, that of a wife, outlining how she should coexist with her husband, raise their children, and manage the household. From the remarks on celibacy and the allusion to a mystic marriage it has been conjectured that the author was a Christian.

The Greek fragments have been very loosely translated (anonymously) into English under the title of Advice to the Fair Sex (London 1736). The Greek text is in Gaisford's Poetae minores Graeci, i (Oxford 1823) 461–5, and (all three fragments together as one continuous passage) in Ernst Heitsch, Die griechischen Dichterfragmente der Römischen Kaiserzeit (Göttingen 1961) 92–4.

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The account given on the page is a victorian-era one exclusively from the British point of view. The entire page needs to be redone because right now, its worthless and insulting. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.127.0.51 (talk) 21:04, 4 April 2006 (UTC).

Most battle descriptions within the dominion of India pre independence were documented by European historians hence odds and scales are invariously tilted and exagerated for dictional license. The article is rubbish as with the Anglo-Mysore Wars, British complicity and treachery are totally excluded.Not to mention disregard for numerical truth of loss of life. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.36.89.4 (talk) 18:05, 8 Junw 2006 (UTC).

You are both obviously Sikh - know how I know that? Because you get so up tight about it - if you think the article is "worthless" and "insulting" and "rubbish", CHANGE IT!!! But don't start with the whole chip on your shoulder thing. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.110.109.212 (talk) 08:55, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

 * Please, please, sign comments everybody, it helps to know which particular version of the page or comment you find objectionable. Last major rewrite was November 2006, after the top two comments in this section were posted. HLGallon 10:01, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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 * Why don't you just rewrite the page?
 * It's just a (damn) war, what do you expect, I do not see anything that really glorifies england in there.
 * There do seem to be some unnecessary adjectives.

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If someone got a problem with the content of this page, he/she may go ahead with writting what ought to be the true history (or nearest to truth for that matter!!). This is Wikipedia, and readers have every opportunity to edit the page they think is far from truth. Your contributions help the spread of knowledge in this free world and that's what is important in our present generation.Joram Beda 12:11, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I've just done a major expansion and rewrite. To all intents and purposes, it is now a new article. Please review and modify as necessary. HLGallon 00:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Help Improve Verifiability
Could some fact tags be insert so that one can find out where citations are needed? I can try to find some reliable sources, and I invite others to help. ManasShaikh (talk) 01:01, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Try Google books. The free on line resource. There are British government papers available on the subject. Hope that helps someone with more tech then i have. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.8.11.187 (talk) 11:12, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

cleanup 20/01/2021
I have found that large parts of the article have been copypasted from. In addition, many recent additions are uncited, anachronistic and convey no impression of notability with regard to the overall subject of the article. Unless the anonymous IP editor (2409:4050:EBD:E958:4576:9964:B710:9A74 (talk)) who made these recent changes or some other editor takes action to redress these issues, I propose to restore the article to the last "clean" state as of 12 January 2021. HLGallon (talk) 10:00, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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The external link http://www.sikhlionz.com/anglosikhwar1.htm seems to be 404. Anthony Appleyard 09:37, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

 * There was some biased text at the beginning "it cannot be denied that the british wanted to conquer the punjab" - I have changed and expanded on this to give a more historically accurate and neutral description of events.

 * More should be added about the treason committed by Lal singh and Tej Singh. The war would have gone on longer and perhaps not resulted in a Sikh defeat if they had not stunted the Sikh army's actions.76.112.20.78 (talk) 19:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)Profitoftruth85

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The WPIndia panel asks for a map. Would File:Punjab_map_(topographic).png help?Apuldram (talk) 10:02, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks lovely! throw it in! HLGallon (talk) 23:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

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Did not the mother start the war to deliberately destroy the Khalsa?
"Sikh historians have always maintained that, in order to retain their hold on power and maintain the figurehead rule of Duleep Singh, Lal Singh and Tej Singh embarked on the war with the deliberate intent of breaking their own army. In particular, Lal Singh was corresponding with a British political officer and betraying state and military secrets throughout the war."

I thought that she had wanted the Khalsa destroyed after she'd seen what they did. That she realised that they were the true power and she would not be secure till they were broken.

Thus it was her who got Lal and Tej Singh to deliberately lose the war.

Anyone else heard this? Anyone know if it's true or not?

Ganpati23 (talk) 19:42, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Wasn't Punjab the last state not under EIC control or in the SA?
"The Sikh empire was until then one of the few remaining kingdoms in India after the rise of the company and the fall of the Mughal empire."

As I understood it, the Sikh empire (after the annexation of the Sindh 1841-2) was the only kingdom not under direct EIC control or part of the Subsidiary Alliance (SA) system which was indirect control.

If the article is right, and it was one of the few remaining kingdoms, can someone please tell me what others were free (not EIC or SA) in 1846-9, please?

As I was taught, the Sikhs were the very last ones.

Ganpati23 (talk) 19:45, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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Chris Atkinson

Christopher James Atkinson (born 30 November 1979 in Bega, New South Wales, Australia) is a professional rally driver. In the World Rally Championship (WRC), Atkinson drove for the Subaru World Rally Team between 2004 and 2008. His best finish on an individual WRC event is second, which he achieved at the 2008 Rally México and Rally Argentina. Other podium placings include third-place finishes at the 2005 Rally Japan and the 2008 Monte Carlo Rally.

Atkinson drives for Team MRF, and competed in the 2012 Asia-Pacific Rally Championship and made a guest appearance in the World Rally Championship. Atkinson won the 2012 Asia-Pacific Rally Championship.

On 16 August 2012, it was announced that Atkinson would be the number one driver for the WRC Team Mini Portugal outfit for the last five races of the 2012 WRC season.

Early career
Prior to his motorsport career, Atkinson had a career as a stockbroker. He graduated at Bond University in commerce, majoring in finance and accounting in 1999 after receiving an academic scholarship for studies. Atkinson was a co-driver for his brother Ben, but after attending a rally school with his brother, the pair swapped positions, scoring a class win and third overall. Atkinson's brother, Ben Atkinson, is a co-driver for Cody Crocker in APRC.

For his first full season of competition, Atkinson contested the Australian Rally Championship aboard a privately entered Group N Mitsubishi Lancer Evo, finishing inside the top ten in Group N and in the overall top 20 on every round he contested, as well as setting two second-fastest stage times. The Atkinsons finished ninth outright to become Privateer Champions. This performance brought Atkinson to the attention of Suzuki, who offered him the opportunity to drive one of its Super 1600 Ignis models with the Suzuki Sport team in the 2003 Asia-Pacific Rally Championship.

WRC career
Atkinson's first world rally was in 2004 at the Rally New Zealand in a Subaru Impreza WRX STI. For 2005, he was signed by Subaru World Rally Team to drive the Subaru Impreza WRC alongside 2003 world champion Petter Solberg. He finished 12th overall in the drivers' world championship with 13 points. His best results were third in Japan and fourth in Australia.

After finishing the 2006 season tenth overall in the drivers championship with 20 points and a fourth place as his best finish, Subaru told Atkinson that his job was on the line, and if he could not balance his speed with safety and achieve quality results he would be replaced by another driver.

At the start of the 2007 season Atkinson finished fourth at the 2007 Rally Monte Carlo, recording three stage wins. On the final day of the rally, Atkinson was 0.8 seconds behind fourth place man Mikko Hirvonen and had to beat him in the super special stage, a 2.4 km run through Monaco which uses part of the world-famous Formula One course. Hirvonen set a time of 1:50.9 meaning that Atkinson had to at least set a time of 1:50.1 to beat him, but Atkinson did better and took the stage win with a time of 1:49.9. Hirvonen was the first person over to Atkinson to congratulate him.

At the 2007 Rally Finland, Atkinson posted the fastest time on the short opening super special stage on a horse-racing course at Killeri, to lead the rally for a short time. Atkinson finished the 2007 season seventh overall in the drivers' world championship.

At the beginning of the 2008 season, Atkinson took third place in Monte Carlo; while at the 2008 Corona Rally Mexico, Atkinson managed second, 30 seconds ahead of Jari-Matti Latvala. He finished the season fifth in the drivers' standings, and for the first time, outscored hitherto team leader Solberg.

After Subaru's season-ending announcement of its withdrawal from the WRC, Atkinson signed for the new Citroën Junior Team for the 2009 season. In his only rally for the season with the team in Ireland, he produced a strong showing to finish fifth, despite colliding with a telegraph pole during the first day, and suffering a spin on SS18.

Re-entry into WRC (2012)
After signing with Monster World Rally Team in 2012, Atkinson raced alongside Ken Block in Mexico. Atkinson won a stage, SS12 – Leon Super Special but finished with a DNF due to mechanical failure.

Atkinson also signed up for a one-off drive in a Citroën DS3 WRC for the Qatar World Rally Team for Rally Finland. However, his medium term WRC future was granted when it was announced he would replace Armindo Araujo as the lead driver for the factory-backed WRC Team MINI Portugal in the last five rallies of the 2012 season. Atkinson contested the last five rounds of the 2012 WRC season with the Motorsport Italia-run MINI squad to finish the year 13th in the Championship. His best result for the year was achieved at Rallye Deutschland (Rally Germany) where he secured 5th behind the wheel of the MINI John Cooper Works WRC.

Atkinson was snapped up by the Citroën team for 2013, however, the team only used him for Rally Mexico, where he finished 6th, 11 minutes off the winner (Sebastien Ogier). Hyundai hired him mid-year as a test driver for their i20 rally car, which led to a part-time deal for 2014. In 2014 he raced at the rallies of Mexico and his home event in Australia, finishing 7th and 10th respectively. In both events, Atkinson was the last of the Hyundai drivers.

Regional series
In April 2010, Chris Atkinson began a partnership with the Proton R3 Rally Team. Competing in the Asia-Pacific Rally Championship (APRC), Atkinson drove a Proton Satria Neo Super 2000, alongside co-driver Stephane Prevot.

After making a guest appearance at the Intercontinental Rally Challenge (IRC) Monte Carlo Rally, Atkinson has dominated the 2011 APRC, winning the Malaysian Rally, Rallye de Nouvelle Caledonia and the International Rally of Whangarei. However missing round two in Queensland and the final round in Hokkaido saw him finish second to his teammate Alister McRae who competed in all rounds.

Atkinson competed in an Australian-run Skoda in the 2012 FIA Asia-Pacific Rally Championship, driving for the MRF team in a Skoda Fabia S2000, co-driven by regular wingman Stephane Prevot and the pair were crowned 2012 FIA Asia-Pacific Rally Champions.

In 2014, Atkinson signed with FAW-VW Rally Team from China. He competed with a S2000 with two rallies. At the end of 2014, with the coming of FAW-FW Golf 7 SCRC, Atkinson restarted his prominence in CRC (China Rally Championship). In the debut of the Golf 7 SCRC, Atko won by 25 mins in the penultimate rally of 2014 CRC in Longyou. And in the Wuyi, the last one, he did not give the champion away. For 2015 and 2016, Atko won 9 of 11 in CRC, defeating the Subaru Rally Team China driver Mark Higgins. However, CRC does not count the points achieved by a foreign driver, or he would surely be the Driver's Champion of CRC in 2015 and 2016.

2015: Guiyang (1st), Zhangye (Ret, Mark Higgins won), Beijing (1st), Dengfeng (1st), Longyou (1st), Wuyi (1st), Jixi (3rd, Jari Ketomaa won)

2016: Dengfeng (1st), Zhangye (1st), Jinzhong (1st), Changchun (1st)

Other racing
At the 24 Hours Nürburgring in 2006, Chris made his circuit racing debut driving a Subaru Impreza for the Autosportif Racing UK placing second in class. From that lead a drive in the 2007 Bathurst 12 Hour again in a Subaru Impreza where he finished first in class and second outright. In 2009 he competed in the third round of the Australian Mini Challenge co-driving with two-time Fujitsu V8 Supercar Series Champion Steve Owen finishing second in the 30-minute endurance race.

Atkinson competed in the final four rounds of the 2016 Global RallyCross Championship, finishing the championship in 11th in a campaign that included a finals appearance in Seattle. He is likely to stay in rallycross for 2017, whether it be in the GRC or the World Rallycross Championship.

Complete Global Rallycross Championship results
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Career highlights

 * 2012 – Winner, Asia-Pacific Rally Championship
 * 2011 – 2nd, Asia-Pacific Rally Championship
 * 2010 – 5th, Asia-Pacific Rally Championship
 * 2009 – 14th, World Rally Championship
 * 2008 – 5th, World Rally Championship
 * 2007 – 7th, World Rally Championship
 * 2006 – 10th, World Rally Championship
 * 2005 – 12th, World Rally Championship
 * 2004 – Winner, Asia-Pacific Super 1600 Championship
 * 2004 – Second, Australian Rally Championship
 * 2003 – Winner, Asia-Pacific Super 1600 Championship
 * 2002 – Winner, Australian Privateers Cup

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Fingerboard (disambiguation)

A fingerboard is a part of a string instrument.

Fingerboard may also refer to:
 * Fingerboard (skateboard), a miniature version of a skateboard controlled by the fingers
 * Fingerboards, an article of climbing equipment
 * Continuum Fingerboard, a continuous pitch performance controller developed by Haken Audio.
 * Another name for a ribbon controller for a synthesizer
 * Fingerboard (vingerbord), a South African variant of the traditional board game carrom

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Ammassalik Municipality

Ammassalik was one of two municipalities in Tunu, the former county of East Greenland − the other one being Illoqqortoormiut (further north). It was located in southeastern Greenland, and with an area of 232,100 km2, most of it on the ice sheet, it was the largest municipality of East Greenland. It is now mostly part of the new Sermersooq municipality, except for the uninhabited area from Timmiarmiut southwards, which is part of the new Kujalleq municipality. The population was 3,031 on 1 January 2005. Due to its size, the old municipality bordered more municipalities than any other in Greenland (10):
 * Nanortalik (south)
 * Narsaq (west)
 * Qaqortoq (west)
 * Paamiut (west)
 * Maniitsoq (west)
 * Sisimiut (west)
 * Kangaatsiaq (west)
 * Qasigiannguit (west)
 * Nuuk (west)
 * Ittoqqortoormiit (north)

For the most part, the old municipality boundaries were laid out as straight lines on the ice cap, such as the 44°W line of longitude (the western border), and 69°N circle of latitude (the northern border). In the east, it borders on the Irminger Sea, a marginal sea of the North Atlantic Ocean, and the Denmark Strait. The former capital is Tasiilaq, pop. 1,849, located on the Ammassalik Island. Other settlements within its borders are Ikkatseq (now abandoned), Kuummiut, Kulusuk, Tineteqilaaq, Sermiligaaq and Isertoq. Ammassalik was also the home to the Arctic Team Challenge, an adventure race.

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Lisa Harrison

Lisa Harrison (born January 2, 1971) is a former American professional basketball player for the Phoenix Mercury in the Women's National Basketball Association (WNBA).

Early life
Born in Louisville, Kentucky, Harrison learned to play basketball from a young age. In 1989, she was named the Naismith Prep Player of the Year and High School Player of the Year while attending Southern High School, by Parade magazine. She also was named 1989's Kentucky Miss Basketball. In 1991, as a sophomore while attending the University of Tennessee, she was a member of their women's basketball team that won the NCAA Women's Division I Basketball Championship.

Professional career
After graduating from Tennessee in 1993, Lisa played one season (1998–1999) for the Columbus Quest of the American Basketball League and two seasons (1997–1999) for the Portland Power.

In the 1999 WNBA draft, she was selected by the Phoenix Mercury in the third round (34th pick overall). In the WNBA, Lisa was once ranked eighth in free throw shooting accuracy at 86.4% in 2001.

Outside basketball
Harrison was inducted into the Kentucky High School Athletics Hall of Fame on September 10, 2001. On September 12, 2006, Harrison was named an outreach coordinator for the athletic department at the University of Louisville.

Regular season

 * align="left" | 1999
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 * align="left" | 2002
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 * align="left" | 2003
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 * align="left" | 2005
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Playoffs

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 * align="left" | Phoenix
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College

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 * style="text-align:left;" | Tennessee
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 * style="text-align:left;" | Tennessee
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 * style="text-align:left;" | 1992–93
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Talk:The Best of John Wyndham

I don't think this needs to be merged with John Wyndham. His other works are showing up on their own pages as well. Maybe someone will expand this. --Bookandcoffee 19:31, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

If we merged every Wyndham short-story collection article into the main article, including their contents, the article would be too big. Therefore I oppose a merge. -- Jon Dowland 15:52, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Oppose - for all the reasons above - should be expanded though. :: Kevinalewis  :  (Talk Page) / (Desk)  08:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

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Godomar II

Godomar II (also spelled Gundomar), son of king Gundobad, was king of Burgundy. He ruled Burgundy after the death of Sigismund, his elder brother, in 524 until 534.

Life
According to Gregory of Tours, Sigismund married the daughter of the Ostrogoth King Theodoric. They had a son, Sigeric. Later, the widowed Sigismund remarried, and his second wife maltreated and insulted her stepson. The Queen persuaded Sigismund that Sigeric planned to kill his father and seize the throne. Sigismund ordered the young man to be taken while drunk and drowned in a well.

The murder of Sigeric in 523 caused tension between the Ostrogoths and the Burgundians. The sons of Clovis took advantage of the political situation to attack the Burgundian kingdom, which now stood alone. Sigismund and Godomar led the Burgundian defense but lost the battle. Sigismund was defeated by the Franks; he, his wife and his two sons were captured through treachery by Clovis's eldest son, Chlodomer, King at Orléans, and were executed.

Godomar is suspected of having sided with the Franks in this battle. Godomar fled and then rallied the Burgundian army. With this army, he regained his territory. Meanwhile, Chlodomer ordered the death of Sigismund and with his brother Theuderic I, King at Metz, marched on Burgundy in 524. On June 25, 524, Godomar led the Burgundians to victory over the Franks in the Battle of Vézeronce, in which Chlodomer himself fell. The Franks then retreated and gave up the fight for Burgundy for the time being.

Three years after Sigismund's death, Godomar had his body recovered and subsequently buried in the Chapel of St. John in the Abbey of Saint-Maurice d'Agaune, the monastery that the Sigismund had founded and to which he had subsequently retreated for some time after the death of his son.

When the Franks made another attempt at conquest in 532, Godomar II was unable to repel them. He was defeated by them in the Battle of Autun, which meant the end of his reign and the end of the kingdom, which the Merovingians definitively incorporated into their empire and finally divided among themselves in 534. His further fate is not known.

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Talk:Chris Atkinson

Temp article
I created a temporary article at Chris Atkinson/Temp. Greba 19:32, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Temp page has replaced the main article. RedWolf 02:02, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Stephane Prevot/Glenn MacNeall
Should any of these have their own article? MacNeall still co-drives in the Australian championship. Prevot has apparently been a quite successful co-driver for years. Ole-p 22:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Current version makes no mention of CA's co-drivers; the change from MacNeall to Prevot is particularly noteworthy and should be included within this article. ChrisB (talk) 01:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Leading the rally
This is not the first time Atkinson has lead a WRC event, having previously led Rally Australia for several stages in 2006. --Falcadore 05:53, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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Usage
In addition to this NYC usage, there is a more general use of "car service" -- meaning any for-hire vehicle other than a taxi (and possible excluding limos). In general, for example, when a businessman refers to "car service" he or she means hiring a driver, normally a black sedan. These do not need to function on-demand like this article suggests. A businessman or politician might have a car service to and from work each and every day. Rlove 19:32, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about video games

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Deletion review nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep — 60% keep, and this process should failsafe to keep. However, this article needs attention. If you voted keep, I expect you to make it a worthwhile article. --Gareth Hughes 17:54, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

List of songs about video games
More useless unencyclpedic songs Listcruft and some of the songs are not even about video games Ex:Lil Flip-Game Over Delete --JAranda | watz sup 19:33, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom.--Gaff talk 19:40, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. Well, that rap song did sample a Pacman sound but I agree that he wasn't definitely rapping about video games. ;-P --J. Nguyen 20:08, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, wikipedia users should be able to find examples of songs about video games. Kappa 21:48, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep interesting and informative list of this often-overlapping culture. Some cleanup needed. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  21:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and clean up. Hipocrite - « Talk » 22:38, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete listcruft —Wahoofive (talk) 23:12, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep for reasons stated by Starblind. -- Captain Disdain 00:30, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep this is a reasonable basis for a list (confession: I've edited it) --TimPope 09:54, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and enforce notability guidelines per the List of webcomics. Otherwise we'd have to list the thousand+ songs on OCRemix and other VG remix sites, rendering the list unmaintanable. Nifboy 14:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Alfred Delp

Translation error (?)
The article has just (well... two weeks ago) been expanded, and it seems that it relies heavily on the German article. Therefore, I guess, there has been a slight, but significat translation error. It says: "While he was in prison, Delp bargained with the Gestapo to release him in return for his leaving the Jesuits, but his offer was rejected." If I understand correctly, that would mean that Delp asked the Gestapo to let him free, and that he would leave the Jesuits in turn. The German wikipedia however says that the Gestapo offered Delp that bargain, and that version sounds more sensible to me, because I find it unlikely that Delp would have made such an offer (if for nothing else, he would have guessed that he could not bargain with them on his terms). I have changed the sentence accordingly --222.13.236.80 19:34, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Translation error (!)
Yes, you're right. I must have been tired or something. It says "ihm die Gestapo", not "er der Gestapo". I sometimes miss case inflections when it's late. Kelisi 04:45, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

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Airborn (novel)

Airborn is a 2004 young adult novel by Kenneth Oppel. The novel is set in an alternate history where the airplane has not been invented, and instead, airships are the primary form of air transportation. Additionally, the world contains fictional animal species such as flying creatures that live their entire lives in the sky. The book takes place aboard a transoceanic luxury passenger airship, the Aurora, and is told from the perspective of its cabin boy, Matt Cruse.

Awards

 * The book won a Governor General's Award for children's literature in 2004.
 * The book was a Michael L. Printz Award honor book.
 * The Bulletin of the Center for Children's Books Blue Ribbon award winner.
 * The book won the Red Maple Award in 2006.
 * The book won a Ruth and Sylvia Schwartz Children's Book Award in 2005.
 * The book made the 2006 International Board on Books for Young People list.
 * The audiobook version, narrated by David Kelly and a full cast, won the 2007 Audie Award for Children's Titles for Ages 12+.

Film adaptation

 * The book originally was being adapted into a film, to be directed by Stephen Sommers. Thomas Dean Donnelly adapted the screenplay. However, in 2008, Oppel indicated that the project had been dropped.
 * Announced on March 19, 2012, Halifax Films and Michael Donovan teamed up and optioned the book for film. Oppel was hired to write the preliminary script and would have been an executive producer.
 * On the frequently asked questions section of his site, Oppel says the most recent producers of his film have dropped out and that he owns rights to the book again.

Publication history
Airborn was first released in Canada in February 2004. It was shortly followed with its release in the United Kingdom and the United States in April and May 2004 respectively. Below is the release details for the first edition hardback and paperback copies in these three publication regions.

 * 2004, CAN, HarperCollins ISBN 978-0-00-200537-1, Pub date February 5, 2004, Hardback
 * 2004, UK, Hodder Children's Books ISBN 978-0-340-87855-2, Pub date April 15, 2004, Hardback
 * 2004, US, Eos ISBN 978-0-06-053180-5, Pub date May 11, 2004, Hardback
 * 2004, CAN, HarperCollins ISBN 978-0-00-639259-0, Pub date October 21, 2004, Paperback
 * 2005, UK, Hodder Children's Books ISBN 978-0-340-87856-9, Pub date January 13, 2005, Paperback
 * 2005, US, Eos ISBN 978-0-06-053182-9, Pub date May 24, 2005, Paperback

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Gibbing

Gibbing is the process of preparing salt herring (or soused herring), in which the gills and part of the gullet are removed from the fish, eliminating any bitter taste. The liver and pancreas are left in the fish during the salt-curing process because they release enzymes essential for flavor. The fish is then cured in a barrel with one part salt to 20 herring. Today many variations and local preferences exist in this process.

History
According to a popular story, the process of gibbing was invented by Willem Beukelszoon (a.k.a. Willem Beuckelsz, William Buckels or William Buckelsson), a 14th-century fisherman from Biervliet, Zealand. The invention of this fish preservation technique led to the Dutch becoming a seafaring power.

Sometime between 1380 and 1386, Beuckelsz discovered that "salt fish will keep, and that fish that can be kept can be packed and can be exported".

Beuckelsz' invention of gibbing created an export industry for salt herring that was monopolized by the Dutch. They began to build ships and eventually moved from trading in herring to colonizing and the Dutch Empire.

The Emperor Charles V erected a statue to Beuckelsz honouring him as the benefactor of his country, and Queen Mary of Hungary after finding his tomb sat upon it and ate a herring.

Herring is still very important to the Dutch who celebrate  (Flag Day) each spring, as a tradition that dates back to the 14th century when fishermen went out to sea in their small boats to capture the annual catch, and to preserve and export their catch abroad.

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Talk:Daisy Group

i'm not sure this page is entirely accurate
i know we had (and still have) pipex dial here in the uk before we got ADSL. Also webcache.dsl.pipex.com seems to point at a uunet box. Can anyone clarify the details of what happened? Plugwash 19:36, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

 * There's obviously some unresolved relationship between MCI/UUNET as owners of the old PIPEX, and the new PIPEX. Most of the domains are (pipex.net, .com, .co.uk) are still registered to MCI, and some IP address blocks are too.  I'll try to find out more about this relationship and update if I can.  Part of the problem is that Rickards obviously wants to portray his PIPEX as being the same company as the old Unipalm PIPEX but it appears that he may have simply bought out the dial-up business from MCI/Worldcom in around 1999, along with the PIPEX name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.42.15.34 (talk • contribs)

 * I've spoken with a senior manager at Pipex who has confirmed the accuracy of the article with regards to Rickard's buy-out of the dial business from MCI. There are contracts in place between MCI and Pipex to allow the use of the domain names whilst they are in a process of transition - apparently some internal systems in MCI inherited from the old Pipex operation are dependent on the domain names, and until these are fixed the domains can't be fully released to the "new" Pipex. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.42.15.34 (talk • contribs)

But this article doesn't mention anything about the new pipex doing dial at all. If he indeed bought the pipex dial buisness along with the pipex name that needs to be mentioned (preferablly with a source). Also your comments still don't explain why the web cache they tell thier users to use identifies itself as a UUNET box (although maybe thats just thrown in with a transit agreement or something) Plugwash 18:26, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't think it is fair to brand this article as "disputed". The only contention is the details of the takeover which for commercial reasons are hard to find web-based evidence for.

 * I propose the following wording for paragraph 3 (that currently begins "Some time later") to settle the dispute:

 * In December 1998 David Rickards purchased the dial business from MCI, including the Pipex name. MCI continued to operate the pipex domain names and the use of some infrastructure.  The new Pipex company went on to offer domestic broadband services reselling BT's ADSL product, rapidly gaining market share by competitive pricing.  It was announced in October 2003 [...etc...]

 * I say December 1998 as the new Pipex company he used (registered number 3681511) was formed on 10/12/1998 so it is fair to assume that he would only go to Companies house and set up the new company if he was sure the deal with MCI was going ahead. Furthermore, by July 1999 Dave Rickards himself was posting Pipex official news updates to Usenet, see for example message 378a41c3.38460911@news.dial.pipex.com - I have been given the mandate to develop the PIPEX Dial service as MD  (slightly odd wording, but I guess he didn't want to scare customers too much by telling them Pipex wasn't part of UUNET/MCI anymore.)

 * 212.42.15.34 01:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

 * "reselling bts adsl product" is misleading. Afaict pipex are using bts adsl service to connect to homes but afaict are providing the onward connectivity to the internet themselves. Plugwash 21:37, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Daisy wholesale resells BT openreach ADSL and Fibre, a host of other suppliers (Talk Talk, Sky, etc who all just use openreach infrastructure) as well as Virgin Fibre. I'm not an expert but I believe that the only other company to lay their own cable is Vodafone for some business customers. There's numerous offices around the UK, the work is still subcontracted out to Openreach engineers and essentially Daisy are the middlemen and another layer of bureaucracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:7853:2B00:5975:FC62:4A18:46DD (talk) 19:21, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

 * Technically then "reselling BT Wholesale's IPstream ADSL product" like all other ISP's in the UK at the time. I am led to believe that the only ISP using BT Wholesale's transit on the back of ADSL (their "Central Plus" product) is BT Retail.  212.42.15.34 12:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

David Rickards did indeed purchase the PIPEX Dial customers from MCI and formed PIPEX Internet Ltd to run the service. Prior to this he owned and ran a company called Highway Response which had contract with MCI to run the billing and sales for the PIPEX DIAL service. The meant that PIPEX Internet became a wholesaler of the MCI network. Because the old PIPEX domains were integrated with very old legacy systems, it took MCI many years to sort these out and hand over the ownership of the domains to PIPEX. The PIPEX Dial service was still run on the MCI backbone servers and slowly over several years, PIPEX built their own mail, news & web servers and migrated customers to these. Please note I am privvy to this information as I was one of the company directors from 1997 - 2003 and worked for Mr Rickards from 1995. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.251.12 (talk) 01:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

"it aquired by" (who aquired who)
This phrase doesn't make sense to me. i presume it was mean to be either "it aquired" or "it was aquired by". i'd guess the latter but i don't wan't to change it without confirmation. Plugwash 21:45, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Changed to "merged". I have found a better description of the early history of Pipex which I will put in when I have the OK from the author.  212.42.15.34 12:14, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I've updated the acquisitions and merges, there's serious overlapping in some places. --Hm2k (talk) 13:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

market position & power (actually spam?)
The recently added "analysis" of "market position and power" seems to be a spam by the "research" company "backchannel".

The text is littered with speculation and the accomanying heavily-branded chart is meaningless.

This section needs rewriting for objectivity or deleting. 212.42.15.50 22:21, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Removed now outdated speculation over BT/PIPEX acquisition. PIPEX market share of the Dedicated Internet Access market for corporates has not changed materially from Sept 2005. Hence the chart is still current and backs up the paragraph of text. Unsure of whether or not the TV commercial information is really true as there are no reinforcing links.

 * taken these figures out as they're quite old/out of date and added Thinkbroadband stats from 2007

I added information about the current Pipex advertising campaign on UK TV featuring David Hasselhoff together with a link to a website critical of his product endorsement and of Pipex products. I have personal knowledge of the site in question. Without mention of the critical website, which contains comments by a number of disgruntled Pipex clients, the article about Pipex reads like a long advert for the company and its products. With the inclusion of the website reference, it is slightly more balanced. The positive information still greatly outweighs the negative. John Donovan 12 Sept 2006

I note that someone subsequently deleted the information about the website critical of Pipex. It seems that this article is considered to be a PR platform for Pipex and is perhaps patrolled and protected on that basis. The information was then put back in, not by me.

Visited the Pipex article again on 24 Sept 2006. Information about the website critical of Pipex has again been deleted. Someone seems determined that this article must serve solely as a PR/Advertising feature for Pipex and edits the article accordingly. They would apparently prefer to have no mention of the current "King of the Internet" TV adverts featuring David Hasselhoff, than have reference to the related critical website. I will leave it to others to decide whether this is acceptable. John Donovan.

 * The site which is critical of Pipex should not be embedded as a direct link,. If anything, it should be marked as a source - put a reference that it has attracted criticism, then an external link at the bottom to back it up. Personally, I don't think that the site involved should even be added - it's an opinionated site which is basically a rant rather than an objective look, and has no place here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hakikev (talk • contribs) 11:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

There are four website links, all to sites critical of Pipex. A vast amount of information and evidence is displayed on the sites. No visitor to this article is compelled to click on any of the links to view the negative material. It they choose to do so, it might be because they have a genuine interest in reading what some Pipex users have to say so that they can form a balanced opinion. Surely the purpose of the article in not merely to provide a PR platform for Pipex. Does it not suggest that something a very amiss when four different individuals feel sufficiently aggrieved to take the time and trouble and spend money to set up the gripe websites. I cannot think of any other company which has generated so many gripe sites. If anyone takes the trouble to read the correspondence on the sites they will find that it is far from being a rant. Johnadonovan 22:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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maru  (talk)  contribs 04:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Pipex Customer Service
I removed the following: However, Pipex is not necessarily one of the worst offenders in the UK telecoms market and the majority of anti-Pipex blogs and gripe websites (such as Poopex) have been set up by disgruntled current or former customers with a grudge and therefore may not mirror the level of customer service enjoyed by most Pipex clients.

There is evidence that customers loathe Pipex more than their competitors (the index listed). There's none that Pipex *isn't* the worst. Also, of course the anti-Pipex blogs have been set up by disgruntled customers. What, you expect them to have been set up by happy customers? This stuff is either obvious, or unsourced, so I removed it.

You might think that this is POV, but I had never even heard of Pipex until I found this article via RC. I live in the US, so they don't affect me at all. Novalis 22:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I reinstated the "Pipex customer service" section which was entirely deleted without anyone even explaining why on this discussion page. I have removed links which no longer function. --Johnadonovan 21:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Removing subjectivity
This article is subjective in its content about rumours and opinion on customer service. These references have been removed or edited, both from the point of view of removing blatent PR from Pipex and Wikipedia being used as a corporate bashing site from disgruntled customers. RR 12:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I have reinstated the section on Pipex Customer Service but in a shortened version removing personal opinion. The anti-Pipex gripe sites are a fact. Quotes about Pipex customer service are taken from reputable publications. I do not believe that it is appropriate for one person – especially one who is apparently not an administrator - to take it upon themselves to remove a whole section developed over time by several contributors. Some of the content was inappropriate but other parts are factual and verifiable as being such. Johnadonovan 22:38, 20 May 2007 (UTC) I have edited down slightly claims of pipexcommunications website being the "original" as this can't be backed up. RR 12:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I have removed a paragraph which set out the personal opinion/POV of a contributor. They are of course entitled to their opinion, but POV is not allowed under Wikipedia rules. There must presumably be some evidence/research obtainable from a reputable verifiable source confirming the positive views expressed about Pipex Customer support. I will leave it to the relevant contributor to find the information and insert it in the article with appropriate source verification links. Johnadonovan 15:08, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

It might be worth noting though that the CS is terrible and staff retention as well as careers there are pretty rubbish. Obviously if you're unlucky enough to work there YMMV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:7853:2B00:5975:FC62:4A18:46DD (talk) 19:23, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Tiscali pipex migrations
"This was done to both save money and provide the customers with a better service" This is currently stated as a fact with no attibutions as to who said it, nor any citations. If this is the party line of tiscali corporate then it needs to be clearly marked as such. Plugwash (talk) 22:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Nildram
Nildram redirects here, but I'm not sure this is correct. Nildram (as part of Pipex) is currently owned by Tiscali. Which I think is now (or soon will be) part of TalkTalk -- but I'm getting conflicting accounts trying to research this. Anyhow for the moment it seems to be that Nildram should redirect somewhere else, perhaps Tiscali for the moment... any thoughts/objections? -- Muntfish (talk) 13:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, the redirect probably wasn't updated when the brand moved from Pipex to Tiscali, yet this article was simply renamed once they stopped using the Pipex brand for Freedom4. To confirm the Nildram site says "Nildram is a trading name of Pipex Internet Limited, a Tiscali UK Company". I'll update the redirect. --Hm2k (talk) 13:36, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Daisy Group plc
Just to confuse things even more, this company appears to have renamed to Daisy Group plc[], which appears to combine Daisy Communications, Freedom4 PLC and Vialtus Solutions. Sounds like an accountants nightmare. It's getting difficult to track this and keep this article accurate. Any suggestions? --Hm2k (talk) 13:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Can confirm that as of Oct 2015 they were 'Daisy Group' which includes daisy wholesale, and other companies. There's also some link with SSE too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:7853:2B00:5975:FC62:4A18:46DD (talk) 19:18, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

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Human Shit (band)
If you want this article to be kept on Wikipedia you will have to baby sit it and bring it up to a higher level of quality. Things like matchbox twenty, Veruca Salt (band) or The Oak Ridge Boys are examples to take form from. They list data more completely, have more categorization, list dates and use structures to make the article have a more complete feel to it. That the band list doesn't even have the full names of the people involved makes it less than stellar. Not only that, but it shows too much bias towards the band instead of standing more neutrally - using terms like "aptly" are a no-no within the Wikipedia. Now, the linked articles are not great, but they all show things that your article lacks, by formatting and adding in better data you could salvage the article. Janizary 19:37, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

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Rummoli

Rummoli is a family card game for two to eight people. This Canadian board game, first marketed in 1940 by the Copp Clark Publishing Company of Toronto requires a Rummoli board, a deck of playing cards (52 cards, no jokers), and chips or coins to play. The game is usually played for fun, or for small stakes (e.g. Canadian Dimes). Rummoli is one of the more popular versions of the Stops Group of matching card games, in particular it falls into a subgroup of stops games based on the German Poch and falls into a family of Poch variants such as the French Nain Jaune (Yellow Dwarf), the Victorian Pope Joan but most like the American game Tripoley (a proprietary name, occasionally called by the generic Michigan rummy, but not to be confused with 500 rum) which debuted eight years earlier in Chicago in 1932.

Rummoli board
A Rummoli board, used during play, has the shape of an octagon. It is generally simply printed on a large sheet of paper.

In the centre of the board is a pot called Rummoli, surrounded by eight pots:
 * The poker pot
 * Ten of spades
 * Jack of diamonds
 * Queen of clubs
 * King of hearts
 * Ace of spades
 * Ace and King of diamonds
 * Sequence 7-8-9 of any suit

Each of these pots on the board is used to store chips. The ordering of the pots around the board is not important.

Play
Ace is high. For brevity, in the following description the "lowest card" means the lowest card in a player's hand or, if two or more cards are equally low, either or any of them.

A game is played in one or more rounds. The game ends at the end of a round, at the discretion of the players. For example, it may be agreed to finish at a certain time, or when all but one player have exhausted their chips.

Rounds
For each round, there are four stages: the Deal, the Poker phase, the Rummoli phase, and the End of round, which are played in sequence.

Deal
Before the cards are dealt, each player pays one chip to each pot on the Rummoli board. The dealer then deals around the table to every player, and an extra hand (in some terminology known as a ghost hand) called the widow. Once the bid is accepted the player is committed to the exchange regardless if the widow is a poorer hand. The widow hand takes no further part in the play.
 * All cards are dealt, so some players may have one more card than others.
 * Once this is completed all players look at their own hands.
 * The widow hand can (at the dealer's wish) be swapped with the dealer's hand (must not be exchanged if his hand contains a pay card).
 * If the dealer does not exchange hands, the widow hand is auctioned off to the highest bidder, who pays their bid to the dealer, and that player exchanges hands with the widow. Any player except the dealer may bid at any time (must not be exchanged if their hand contains a pay card)

Poker phase

 * The player to the left of the dealer starts off the betting, having the option to check.
 * Betting continues in regular poker fashion.
 * The remaining player with the best poker hand wins the poker pot and begins the Rummoli phase. They then "play" the lowest card in the hand.  To play a card, the player states the card they are playing and puts it down in front of them.  For example, if the lowest card in my hand is the 3 of hearts, I put the card down in front of me, say, "three of hearts."  If I have the four of hearts, I would play that as well.  If I have two 3s in my hand, I may choose either 3.

Rummoli phase
While this phase is being played if any player lays down a card corresponding to a pot such as Ace of Spades, the player picks up that pot. If a player places down a card that corresponds to a pot without realizing so, then the chips stay in the pot.

The player with the next card in the sequence of the suit must lay that card, and this continues with players laying cards until nobody has the card that follows in sequence (remember, some cards are missing from the spare hand that is not being played).
 * If no one holds that next card (that is, it has already been laid or is in the widow hand) the player who last laid a card then lays the lowest card in a suit of the opposite colour (that is, hearts or diamonds if the last card was spades or clubs, and the other way about).
 * Having laid an ace the next card in sequence is the lowest card in the opposite colour. The player who played the ace continues.
 * A player not having a card of the required colour, the play then moves clockwise. If the next player also cannot play, this step repeats as necessary. If an impasse is reached (all players only have red cards), everyone counts their cards, and throws one chip/coin in the center pot for each card in their hand. The winner of the next hand collects both pots.

A card once laid takes no further part in the play.

End of round
The first player to have an empty hand wins the Rummoli pot.
 * All other players must then pay one chip for each remaining card they hold.
 * All pots that are not won remain on the board and accumulate in subsequent rounds.
 * The pots for 7-8-9 and Ace and King of Diamonds often accumulate over several rounds, since these combinations are less likely to be held by one player alone, and even if they are, another player may win the round before there is any chance to play them.

The deal shifts after each round, one player clockwise.

End of play
After the agreed end of the round play, all chips on the board are placed into one pot and a round of poker dealt and played for it. A variation is to play a round for each pot that still has chips in it, starting with the pot with the fewest chips.

The player with the most chips at the end of the game wins.

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Rustic

Rustic may refer to:
 * Rural area
 * Pastoral

Architecture

 * Rustication (architecture), a masonry technique mainly employed in Renaissance architecture
 * Rustic architecture, an informal architectural style in the United States and Canada with several variations

Zoology

 * Rustic moths, various noctuid moths of subfamilies Hadeninae and Noctuinae, including
 * The rustic, (Hoplodrina blanda, Hadeninae)
 * The rustic (Cupha erymanthis), a brush-footed butterfly
 * Rustic sphinx (Manduca rustica), a hawkmoth

Other uses

 * Rustic, Toronto, a neighbourhood in Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 * Rustic capitals, a formal Roman script

title: Rustic