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Neutrality / Promotional Copy?
There is a lot of opinion in this article. Sites is a 'respected' war correspondent? By whom? This article may be promotional copy as it lacks detail. I was a war correspondent and it's a very overused and abused title.202.82.171.186 07:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd settle for someone telling me who else he worked for before CNN and NBC, and whether he was staff or freelancer at CNN and NBC in Iraq. A lot of people showed up in the Middle East and walked out 'respected war correspondents' so I think a full CV is needed here to make it all clear (I have been a CNN staff employee AND freelanced for NBC)202.82.171.186 07:24, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I've added a reference for the claim you're querying, as well as the other one that had a [citation needed] tag on it. The reference came from one of the links in the "External links" section, which has been there for a while. I also re-added the awards paragraph that an IP had removed and referenced it. AntHolnes (talk) 16:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Insurgent? Captive? Prisoner?  Suspect?  Terrorist?  Resistance fighter?
The article calls the Iraqi an "insurgent". Actually, we don't know whether he was an insurgent. Whoever had been firing on the Marines when they captured the mosque may have taken hostages. Or the Mosque's Iman, or janitor, could have stayed behind to try to prevent holy items being vandalized by the gunmen, or by the Marines. Mere presence doesn't prove he was an insurgent.

I don't agree with describing those fighting the foreign occupation as "insurgents". The use of this term implies something that needs to be proven. A fighter isn't an "insurgent" unless they are fighting a legitimate authority. Iraqis didn't elect Paul Bremer. They didn't like Paul Bremer. They didn't trust Paul Bremer. And his administration made no meaningful progress in providing Iraqis with safe water, electricity or sewage disposal. It couldn't provide law and order. So, in what sense could it be described as a legitimate authority? -- Geo Swan 21:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Iraq has been sovereign for well over a year by that time. The Iraqis had already held one election, and were about to hold another.  Furthermore, the U.S. presence had been authorized by UN Security Council Resolution 1546 to remain there so long as the new Iraqi government consents.  That's legitimate sovereignty by most standards.

 * Ba'athists may disagree. Some will always regard Saddam as the only legitimate authority.
 * -- Randy2063 21:44, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

 * November 2004, when Sites took the photos, was during the period of Iyad Allawi's regime -- appointed, not elected. --  Geo Swan 14:18, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Further, the page on UN reso 1546 is inaccurate. The actual reso says the UN is looking forward to the resumption of full sovereignty.  It sees the June 2004 handover as a step in that path.  It does not say what the wikipedia article says it says.  --  Geo Swan 14:24, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * But it does say that the "Allawi Regime" was sanctioned by that same UNSC resolution. I realize that falls short of your standard, given that Saddam was elected with 99% of the popular vote, but that sentiment is not universal.
 * -- Randy2063 15:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

The November shooting needs to be covered in more detail
The November shooting needs to be covered in more detail. What is missing:
 * Ten to fifteen seconds prior to shooting you can hear one of the Marines say: "These are the aame guys from the other day." Marines had already captured this mosque.  The Marines had already captured these Iraqis
 * The Marine's ejaculation is missing -- "This one's not dead" -- or whatever it was he said.
 * The Marine's name has been kept confidential.
 * There was supposed to have been an inquiry into the death of all the wounded Iraqis in the Mosque. The Geneva Conventions and the US Uniform Code of Military Justice require that soldiers take the necessary steps to try to preserve the lives of their prisoners.  I think Sites said that although he only captured the shooting of one Iraqi on video that the Marines had shot all half dozen Iraqis.  Further I think he said the Iraqi whose shooting he captured on video didn't die right away.  He asked, "Why did you shoot me.  I co-operated with you the other day."
 * Apologists offered all kinds of excuses for the shooter, his buddies, and for the Marines who initially captured the Iraqis.
 * Apologists said that the shooter had just lost a good buddy when an Iraqi in civilian clothes shot him with a concealed weapon. So, how could apologists know this when his name and unit number were kept confidential?
 * Apologists said the shooter had himself been shot, in the face, just a few days before the incident. See above.
 * Apologists said that it was a different unit that had initially captured the mosque, and the Iraqis. Even so, it must have been a closely related unit, since the video captures one of the Marines saying "These are the same guys from the other day."  See above
 * Apologists said that the initial unit had left their wounded prisoners because the situation did not allow the safe transit of transport for them. See above.

So, where should this story be covered? -- Geo Swan 21:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Uh, cleaned this up of the clearly un-scientific Zionist POV 22:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

216.136.107.24 using Wikipedia to anonymously libel Kevin
I just went through and deleted a bunch of swipes by 216.136.107.24. These comments by 216.136.107.24 attacked Kevin and his reputation, in fact 216.136.107.24 had the gall to create an entire section called "criticisms" where he wrote his attacks. Amazingly, 216.136.107.24 did not provide a single source or citation for any of his attacks. It is possible that 216.136.107.24 simply made these "criticisms" up on his own. To be clear to 216.136.107.24 or anyone else who uses Wikipedia to damage people's reputations, libel of a public figure is a very serious tort. Unless you are using a proxy, people can find out who you are through your IP address. I doubt Kevin is the type to sue but others might not be so nice. If you are going to attack a public figure's reputation then you should at least provide a source for the things you write.

Again, 216.136.107.24 used Wikipedia to anonymously attack Kevin with his sourceless and citeless opinions. 216.136.107.24, if you have a problem with Kevin then write him an e-mail or create your own website. --75.16.84.229 11:54, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

A "very serious tort" LMAO! Wow, just wow. Internet law expert, eh? LOL

Is there any more information on Kevin Sites the person, birth, his life before being hired by Yahoo?

--Hear, hear, and don't just DELETE things yopu don't agree with, user 75.16.84.229 ... that's what the TALK page is for.202.82.171.186 07:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

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Francis M. Jackson

Francis M. Jackson (born 1949) is an American veterans law and personal injury attorney who is also an authority on Social Security disability. He has practiced law since 1977 and is a founding partner in the law firm of Jackson & MacNichol.

Early life and personal life
Jackson lived in several states as a child, including Tennessee, Connecticut, New York and Maine. He graduated from Bowdoin College, where he was a James Bowdoin Scholar, graduating summa cum laude. He attended the University of Maine School of Law where he served on the editorial board of the law review and on the national moot court team and was on the Dean's list. He was chosen for an internship with the Mental Health Law Project sponsored by the Ford Foundation in his final semester of Law School.

He is the brother of American foreign service officer and diplomat Robert P. Jackson.

Career
Jackson has twice been the recipient of the pro bono award from the Maine Volunteer Lawyers Project for providing legal services for the indigent. He was presented with the award by Maine's Chief Justice.

Jackson attended the 1993 founding meeting of the National Organization of Veterans Advocates (NOVA) of which he is a member. He is the secretary of the Maine State Bar Association Veterans Law Section. He has presented at continuing legal education programs sponsored by the bar association to teach lawyers about veterans law. He has participated in free legal clinics for veterans to review their claims and advise them of their rights regarding veterans benefits. Jackson has also presented on veterans law for Maine's libraries. He has handled hundreds of veterans cases at the Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims and the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit as well as representing veterans in hearings before local Veterans Administration (VA) hearing offices and before the Board of Veterans’ Appeals all across the country.

One of Jackson's most important cases was Moody v. Principi, 357 F.3d 1370 (Fed. Cir. 2004), establishing that the VA must give full consideration to claims filed by veterans not represented by an attorney. In 2018, Jackson won Cook v. Wilkie, establishing a veteran's entitlement to an opportunity for a hearing whenever the Board of Veterans' Appeals decides an appeal, including decisions on remand.

Jackson is a regular contributor on the Bert Martinez blog talk radio show, Money For Lunch, where he discusses the issues that affect veterans benefits.

Jackson is admitted to practice before the Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims, the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, the Court of Appeals for the First Circuit, the Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, the Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, and the Maine Supreme Judicial Court as well as the United States District Court.

Jackson has also represented hundreds of people applying for disability benefits from the Social Security administration. He is a sustaining member of the National Organization of Social Security Representatives. He has presented hundreds of social security appeals in the federal district and circuit courts, winning numerous cases.

Jackson won an important case, Ainsworth v. SSA (2010), in the United States District court in New Hampshire, where he successfully argued against the use of telephone testimony by experts in Social Security disability cases. He recently won Jenkins v. Colvin (2015), a Maine case establishing that Social Security judges cannot ignore or overrule vocational testimony favorable to the claimant and Maniscalco v. Colvin (2016), in Massachusetts, establishing that vocational expert testimony must be based upon the actual experience of the vocational witness. Jackson is a joint presenter of annual seminars for other attorneys regarding social security matters.

Before limiting his practice to injury and disability work, Mr. Jackson won the case State v. Anaya, in which he was the first attorney in Maine ever to win a murder case based on the battered woman defense. He also won severance benefits for an entire class of employees who were terminated by Schlumberger Technologies in Bellino v. Schlumberger, 944 F.2d 26 (1st Cir. 1991).

In September 2012, Jackson was presented with a Quilly award by the National Academy of Best Selling Authors for his contribution as a joint author of the book, Protect and Defend, where he wrote about protecting and defending ones rights to disability compensation from the VA.

Jackson has been seen on ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox TV network affiliates around the country, is listed in Cambridge Who's Who and has been quoted in USA Today.

Jackson is also the author of Social Security Disability Law, A reference for New England Disability Claims, Speaker Media Press, 2013. He was writing a book on veterans compensation and pension benefits.

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Đồng Nai River

The Đồng Nai River (sông Đồng Nai ) is a river in Vietnam that originates in the Central Highlands region of the southern portion of the country. It is approximately 586 km in length, making it the longest river to be entirely located in Vietnam. It gives its name to Đồng Nai Province.

Geography
The Dong Nai River flows through the provinces of Lam Dong, Dak Nong, Binh Phuoc, Dong Nai, Binh Duong and Ho Chi Minh City with a length of over 437 km and a basin of 38,600 km2, if calculated from the source of the Đa Dâng River, it is 586 km long. From the confluence with the Đa Nhim River below the Pongour waterfall, it measures 487 km. The Dong Nai River flows into the East Sea in Cần Giờ District.

The main stream of upper Dong Nai river is also known as the Đa Đang river: the name used by the minority Maa and Koho people. The river originates from Lam Vien plateau, meandering along the northeast-southwest direction from the mountains to the plateau in Ta Lai (Tan Phu district, Dong Nai province). The river forms the natural boundary between Đăk R'Lấp District (Dak Nong) and Bảo Lâm District, Lâm Đồng Province, Cát Tiên District, between Cát Tiên and Bù Đăng District, Tan Phu District, Dong Nai and between Tan Phu and Đạ Tẻh District.

After meeting the Bé River, the Dong Nai River forms a natural boundary between Dong Nai on the east and Bình Dương Province on the west bank.

Between the confluence with the Saigon River and where it splits into the Soài Rạp and Lòng Tàu distributaries, the river is commonly known as the Nhà Bè river.

The river flows through Bien Hoa City, then flows along the boundary between Dong Nai and Ho Chi Minh City, between Ba Ria - Vung Tau and Ho Chi Minh City.

Hydropower
Major hydropower dams in the Dong Nai river basin:
 * On the main Dong Nai river: Trị An Dam, Dong Nai 2, Dong Nai 3, Dong Nai 4, Dong Nai 5, Dong Nai 6 (in development) and Dong Nai 6A (in development). The Dong Nai 6 and 6A projects are controversial as they are likely to have a significant impact on the biodiversity of Cat Tien National Park.
 * Bé River: Thac Mo dam, Cần Đơn dam
 * Saigon River: Dau Tieng Lake
 * Da Nhim River: Da Nhim (or Dai Ninh) dam
 * La Nga River: Hàm Thuận – Đa Mi hydroelectric power stations

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Ivan Dmitriev

Ivan Ivanovich Dmitriev (Ива́н Ива́нович Дми́триев; 21 September 1760 – 15 October 1837) was a Russian statesman. He was also a poet associated with the sentimentalist movement in Russian literature.

Dmitriev was born at his father's estate in the government of Simbirsk. In consequence of the revolt of Yemelyan Pugachev, the family had to flee to Saint Petersburg, and there Ivan was entered at the school of the Semenov Guards, and afterwards obtained a post in the military service. On the accession of Paul I to the imperial throne, he quit the army with the rank of colonel; and his appointment as procurator for the senate was soon after renounced for the position of privy councillor.

During the four years from 1810 to 1814 he served as minister of justice under the Emperor Alexander I; but at the close of this period he retired into private life, and though he lived more than twenty years, he never again took office, but occupied himself with his literary labors and the collection of books and works of art.

In the matter of language he sided with Karamsin, and did good service by his own pen against the Old Slavonic party. His poems include songs, odes, satires, tales, epistles, and others, as well as the fables—partly original and partly translated from La Fontaine, Florian and Arnault—on which his fame chiefly rests. Several of his lyrics have become thoroughly popular from the readiness with which they can be sung; and a short dramatico-epic poem on Yermak, the Cossack conqueror of Siberia, is well known.

His writings occupy three volumes in the first five editions; in the 6th (Saint Petersburg, 1823) there are only two. His memoirs, to which he devoted the last years of his life, were published at Moscow in 1866.

English translations of his poems
Translation of long poem "Liberation of Moscow" (1795) in Four Centuries 16

...And you, our champion, will live for the ages, As our honor, our glory, and a paragon to all! There, where the mountains prop up the clouds, A multitude of sonorous rivers will spring up, And from the millstone a mighty forest emerge; Verdant gardens will burgeon upon the plains And cities will arise and vanish, with time; An infinity of new marvels nature will create; Be they revealed to our astonished gaze; A new light will illuminate the cosmos, And the warrior, heartened by your blood, Remembering you, will become in his pride Greater ingrained, and further, further confirmed In his unshakable love for our fatherland!

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taking flash from the net

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The result of the debate was delete. --Phroziac(talk) 00:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Taking flash from the net
It is a how-to article and cannot be made encyclopedic. - C HAIRBOY (☎) 21:21, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. C HAIRBOY (☎) 21:21, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: per nom. Solarusdude 21:22, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Double Your Dating

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The result of the debate was merge. Woohookitty 10:49, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Double Your Dating
Delete This page is unlikely to ever rise above an advertisement. See related AFDs here and here PhilipO 21:21, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge into David DeAngelo. This isn't worth a separate article, because there's simply not enough to be said.  Still, the company should be mentioned because a search for the company returns thousands of hits.  Even if they're all advertisements, the company still is known by enough people or has enough capital to advertise that it's noteworthy.  --Quintin3265 21:54, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Vsion 23:02, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete This page is an advertisement. The book might be included in a reference section.  However, it has no ISBN.  --DutchSeduction User has less than 40 edits, all made today, on this or related articles..
 * Merge -- I agree with Quintin3265, change this page into a redirect to David DeAngelo, add the "==Double Your Dating==" section there, and insert the pertinent information there. --grubbmeister 03:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Tatum

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The result of the debate was DELETE.  Rob e  rt  19:58, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Christopher Tatum
Appears to be part of a multiple article hoax. Google supports none of the claims in the article. The film he's supposed to star in, Upon September doesn't show up on IMDB.com. This article was also largely copied to create the Christopher Anderson article - which has now been corrected to an accurate stub. (I'd appreciate a hand from anyone in unpicking the sneaky vandalism, AfDing the complete hoaxes, and so forth, from all connected articles, in case I miss anything. I think I've got it all, but I'm not sure). See also Break You. KeithD (talk) 21:23, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. --Vsion
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Karl Taylor Compton

Karl Taylor Compton (September 14, 1887 – June 22, 1954) was a prominent American physicist and president of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) from 1930 to 1948.

The early years (1887–1912)
Karl Taylor Compton was born in Wooster, Ohio, on September 14, 1887, the eldest of three brothers (including Arthur Compton and Wilson Martindale Compton) and one sister, Mary. His father, Elias Compton, was from an old American Presbyterian family, and his mother, Otelia Augspurger Compton, was from an Alsatian and Hessian Mennonite family that had recently immigrated to the United States. He came from a remarkably accomplished family in which his brother Arthur became a prominent physicist and sister Mary a missionary.

Beginning in 1897, Compton's summers were spent camping at Otsego Lake, Michigan while attending Wooster public schools in fall, winter and summer. He took hard labor jobs starting at age eleven to help pay for college, working carrying hods for construction projects, as a farm hand, mule skinner, a book canvasser, in tile and brick factories and surveyed the first mile of paved road in Ohio.

In 1902, Compton skipped a grade and went into Wooster University's preparatory department for the last two years of high school. In 1908, he graduated from Wooster cum laude with a bachelor of philosophy degree, then in 1909 his master's thesis A study of the Wehnelt electrolytic interrupter was published in Physical Review. During 1909–1910 he was an instructor in Wooster's chemistry department before entering a graduate program at Princeton University. There he received the Porter Ogden Jacobus Fellowship, and worked with Owen Willans Richardson and jointly published several papers on electrons released by ultraviolet light, electron theory and on the photoelectric effect. Richardson went on to receive the Nobel Prize in some of the areas where Compton contributed. In 1912, Compton received his Ph.D. from Princeton summa cum laude.

Reed College and WW I (1913–1918)
In June 1913, Compton married Rowena Raymond. They moved to Reed College in Portland, Oregon, where Compton was an instructor in physics. In 1915, he returned to Princeton as an associate professor of physics. He also took a consultancy at the General Electric Corporation. He contributed to the war effort at Princeton and with the Signal Corps. In December 1917, Compton was attached to the US Embassy in Paris as an associate science attaché.

Princeton University (1918–1930)
After the Armistice of 1918, the end of World War I Compton returned home to Princeton, his wife and three-year-old daughter Mary Evelyn. In June 1919, Compton was made a full professor, and worked in the Palmer Laboratory where his gift for teaching was legendary. His research was in the area of electronics and spectroscopy in subject areas such as passage of photoelectrons through metals, ionization, the motion of electrons in gases, fluorescence, theory of the electric arc, absorption and emission spectra of mercury vapor, and collisions of electrons and atoms. His paper with OT Richardson, "The Photoelectric Effect," in 1912 was one of the first verifications of Einstein's 1905 paper on the photoelectric effect.

Rowena died in the fall of 1919. In 1921, Compton married Margaret Hutchinson, with whom he had a daughter, Jean, and a son, Charles Arthur. In 1927, Compton was named director of research at the Palmer Laboratory and Cyrus Fogg Brackett professor. In 1929 he was appointed head of the department. Over one hundred papers were published in his name during his time at Princeton.

In 1923, Compton was elected a member of the American Philosophical Society and in 1924 a member of the National Academy of Sciences for which he was chairman of the Section of Physics (1927–1930). He was named vice-president of the American Physical Society (APS) in 1925 and in 1927 became its president. Compton was also a fellow of the Optical Society of America, a member of the American Chemical Society, the Franklin Institute and other professional engineering societies.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1930–1954)
In 1930, Compton accepted an invitation from the MIT Corporation to be president of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), an engineering school that was redefining the relationship between engineering and science. He took office at the beginning of the Great Depression in America, a time of economic turmoil and a time when science was under attack as a source of social ills and national despair. Compton was to strengthen basic scientific research at the Institute while becoming a spokesman for science and technology.

During Compton's service as president, the organization went through a revolutionary change. He developed a new approach to education in science and engineering, the influence of which was felt far beyond MIT. Significantly, he was active in the Society for the Promotion of Engineering Education, and its president in 1938. He was a leader in establishing new standards for the accreditation of engineering criteria through his role as chairman of the Committee on Engineering Schools of the Engineer's Council for Professional Development. He believed in broad-based education for scientists and engineers that was responsive to the needs of the time, and that science should be an element of industrial progress.

In the early 1930s, Compton joined with members of the APS to form the American Institute of Physics (AIP). While he was chairman of the AIP board during 1931–1936, the organization became a federation of several disparate societies for developing subject areas in physics. It sponsored publication of research results in the rapidly expanding study of physics during that era.

In 1948, Compton resigned his post as President of MIT and was elected president of the MIT Corporation. He held that position until his death on June 22, 1954.

Cooperation with the military (1933–1949)
In 1933, U.S. President Roosevelt asked Compton to chair a new Scientific Advisory Board that lasted two years. This put him into a forefront of scientists that perceived a need for reliable scientific advice at the highest levels of government. The start of World War II motivated the start of the National Defense Research Committee (NDRC), created in 1940 under the chairmanship of Vannevar Bush. Compton was a member of the NDRC and became head of Division D which was responsible for assembling a group of academic and industrial engineers and scientists that would study primarily radar, fire control and thermal radiation. In 1941, the NDRC was assimilated into the Office of Scientific Research and Development (OSRD) where Compton chaired the United States Radar Mission to the United Kingdom.

In August 1942, Roosevelt appointed Compton to the Rubber Survey Committee, which investigated and made recommendations to help resolve conflicts on technical direction in the development of synthetic rubber, arising due to the loss of rubber supply during the war.

In 1945, Compton was selected as one of eight members of the Interim Committee appointed to advise President Harry S. Truman on the use of the atomic bomb. When Japan surrendered in 1945, World War II came to an end and Compton left the OSRD. In 1946, Compton chaired the President's Advisory Commission on Military Training. He also wrote an article in the Atlantic magazine entitled "What If The United States Had Never Dropped The Atomic Bomb?" in which he argues that the dropping the bomb saved hundreds of thousands of lives; President Harry S Truman responded in agreement. From 1946 to 1948, he was a member of the Naval Research Advisory Committee. Compton chaired the Joint Research and Development Board from 1948 to 1949, when he stepped down for health reasons.

Awards and honors

 * The Rumford Prize of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 1931
 * The Presidential Medal for Merit in 1946 for hastening the termination of hostilities by means of the radar research and development program he directed.
 * The Public Welfare Medal from the National Academy of Sciences. in 1947 for his eminence in the application of science to the public welfare.
 * The Washington Award of the Western Society of Engineers in 1947
 * Honorary Commander, Civil Division, of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire in 1948
 * Knight Commander of the Royal Norwegian Order of St. Olav in 1948
 * The Lamme Medal of the American Society for Engineering Education in 1949
 * The Hoover Medal jointly from the American Institute of Electrical Engineers, the American Society of Mechanical Engineers, American Institute of Mining and Metallurgical Engineers and the American Society of Civil Engineers in 1950
 * The William Procter Prize for Scientific Achievement of the Scientific Research Society of America in 1950
 * Officer in the French Legion of Honor in 1951
 * The Priestley Memorial Award of Dickinson College in 1954 for his contributions to the "welfare of mankind through physics"

The lunar crater Compton is named after Compton and his brother Arthur, who was also an influential scientist. Compton was also the recipient of thirty-two honorary degrees.

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Beatrice Hammer

Béatrice Hammer (born Paris, 4 February 1963) is a French writer who publishes novels and short stories for adults (since 1994) and novels for children (since 2005).

Hammer is also the author of a drama, Aristides based on the story of Aristides de Sousa Mendes, the Portuguese Government consul in Bordeaux, France in 1940.

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Talk:Edward Russell, 1st Earl of Orford

Should this from CNN be included?
Admiral Edward Russell's 17th-Century throwdown

Think you can drink like a sailor? Maybe you should take a moment to reflect on what that truly means.

The record for history's largest cocktail belongs to British Lord Admiral Edward Russell. In 1694, he threw an officer's party that employed a garden's fountain as the punch bowl.

The concoction? A mixture that included 250 gallons of brandy, 125 gallons of Malaga wine, 1,400 pounds of sugar, 2,500 lemons, 20 gallons of lime juice, and 5 pounds of nutmeg.

A series of bartenders actually paddled around in a small wooden canoe, filling up guests' cups. Not only that, but they had to work in 15-minute shifts to avoid being overcome by the fumes and falling overboard.

The party continued nonstop for a full week, pausing only briefly during rainstorms to erect a silk canopy over the punch to keep it from getting watered down. In fact, the festivities didn't end until the fountain had been drunk completely dry. Soyseñorsnibbles 15:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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Tidied a few typos and duplicate wikilinks, added a few commas and a couple of oclc's.Keith-264 (talk) 13:02, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 20:45, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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Arena District

The Arena District is a mixed-use planned development and neighborhood in Columbus, Ohio. The site was developed through a partnership between Nationwide Realty Investors, Ltd. (a subsidiary of Nationwide), the City of Columbus and private investors. Interpretation of the boundaries of the district are evolving as the neighboring blocks around the original 75 acre site have seen additional commercial and residential development. The Arena District is named for Nationwide Arena.

History
A Mingo settlement is known to have occupied part of the land along the Scioto River in the 1790s. With the rapid expansion of Columbus, the land subsequently became an industrial corridor. In the 1870s the northern land was mostly small houses and fields. Columbus Buggy Company built its first production sites in the area and continued to expand them until the company moved its production to Dublin Road in 1906. By the 1910s it was a light manufacturing hub home to Pabst Brewing Co., Ohio Casket Co., Stuart Lamneck Co. and the Columbus Auto Brass Co. In the 1930 it had been reduced to vacant houses and several businesses and by 1950 the industry there had mostly dried up.

Three successive railroad hubs, named Union Station, existed on the site, with the first being built in 1850 at High Street and Nationwide Blvd. A second station replaced it in 1868, and a third was built to the west along East Goodale Street.

The Ohio Penitentiary opened on the site in 1834 and served as a large scale prison facility until 1984. The prison grew dramatically in size to house 5,235 prisoners in 1955. But it is also the site of a 1930 fire that killed 322 inmates, one of the worst fires in American prison history. The prison was vacant until it was demolished in 1998.

Arena construction
Around the mid-1990s the area was almost entirely abandoned and redevelopment opportunities were envisioned by the City of Columbus. Following the closure of the Ohio Penitentiary the land was owned by the City of Columbus and it courted various firms and investors for redevelopment plans. At the time of the project in 1996 then City Councilman Michael B. Coleman, who was later the mayor of Columbus, said that the Ohio Penitentiary site is the “most important and potentially most valuable single site in downtown Columbus.”  After proposals were reviewed, the City Council approved the redevelopment proposal from Nationwide Realty Investors (NRI) and sold the company the 23-acres of land for $11.7 million. NRI purchased an additional four acres from American Electric Power Company (AEP) for $11 million.

The Ohio Department of Development provided a $750,000 grant to help with cleanup on the land.

NRI worked further with The Columbus Dispatch Printing Company, private investors, and the city of Columbus to fund work in the district. NRI funded $450 million of the project, the Dispatch provided an additional $10 million, and other private investors provided $40 million more for the construction of buildings in the Arena District. Additional financing to construct infrastructure was provided by the city of Columbus; these included a tax increment financing (TIF) district in downtown Columbus, and two tax incentive packages: one for downtown office development and another 10 year tax holiday for newly constructed residential properties.

Subsequent development
In 2009, there had been a proposal to construct the Hollywood Casino Columbus in the Arena District on the site of a former tool factory next to Huntington Park, estimated to cost $250 million including 5,000 slot machines and table games, but was met with opposition from landlords in the Arena District. The casino was eventually built in the city's western neighborhoods. In 2021, Lower.com Field, a soccer-specific stadium that is the home of the Columbus Crew, was built on the site and will be the anchor of the Astor Park neighborhood, which is currently under construction.

By the end of 2013 construction began on the last phase of the Arena District, with an expected completion date of Summer 2014. The last major phase of construction includes the new headquarters for Columbus-based Columbia Gas of Ohio and completed second phase of the residential Flats on Vine.

Geography
The 75 acre Arena District site is bounded by Vine Street to the north, Spring Street to the south, N. High Street to the east and Neil Avenue to the west. The commonly accepted borders of the Arena District are considerably larger, as evidenced by both the Arena District website and locals when referring to it. The expanded boundaries include Huntington Park, the Lifestyles Community Pavilion and Buggyworks to the west, and Nationwide's corporate headquarters to the east. Arena District is directly south of the North Market and Park Street Districts, north of Downtown and west of the Greater Columbus Convention Center. Generally, when walking west of High Street the land falls away towards the Olentangy River, and the grade is significant, especially alongside Nationwide Arena.

The neighborhood has several public spaces that are used for major events throughout the year such as McFerson Commons Park (commonly referred to as Arch Park ), Battelle Plaza and Nationwide Arena Plaza. These events include: The Arnold Sports Festival, Jazz & Rib Fest, Columbus Blue Jackets hockey games and concerts. There is also a pedestrian walkway and footbridge that extends from Battelle Plaza at the east side of Nationwide Arena to Vine Street where there are numerous bars and restaurants, and access to parking garages.

Economy
The neighborhood has numerous restaurants, bars, and shops. The businesses largely depend on high-traffic periods during conventions at the nearby Greater Columbus Convention Center and sporting events at Nationwide Arena and Huntington Park. During the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, the neighborhood businesses suffered from little revenue, as the event centers had canceled all events.

Structures and landmarks
There are several notable structures and landmarks in the Arena District:

Nationwide Arena
The namesake of Arena District, Nationwide Arena was completed in 2000 and is the home of the Columbus Blue Jackets NHL hockey team, who is also the primary tenant. Nationwide Arena has a seating capacity of 18,500 for hockey, 19,500 for basketball and 20,000 for concerts. It has also hosted NCAA Men's and Women's Basketball National Championship Regional games, NCAA Men's Ice Hockey games, Ohio State University Fall Semester Convocation, performance events and concerts ranging from Taylor Swift to Disney on Ice.

KEMBA Live!, The Basement and A&R Music Bar
KEMBA Live!, formerly known as Express Live!, Lifestyle Communities Pavilion and PromoWest Pavilion, is a concert venue in Columbus, Ohio. During the spring-summer-autumn seasons, they host outdoor concerts on a regular basis, and have indoor concerts year-round. The venue seats 2,200 (indoors) and 4,500 in its Backyard Amphitheater (outdoors). Smaller acts perform in The Basement, a venue that is attached to the facility, or in the A&R Music Bar next door.

Huntington Park
Huntington Park was completed in 2009 and is the home of the Columbus Clippers baseball team. The Clippers have been the AAA affiliate of the Cleveland Indians/Guardians since 2009 and play in the International League. The stadium has also hosted the Big 10 Men's College Baseball tournament in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012. It cost $70 million to build. It is not a part of the original Arena District site, but has since been incorporated into the neighborhood. The stadium has a capacity of 10,100 fans and set a stadium record for attendance on July 26, 2010 with an attendance of 12,517 fans for a game between the Clippers and Pawtucket Red Sox.

Lower.com Field
Lower.com Field began construction in 2019 and opened two years later on July 3, 2021 at a cost of $314 million.

McFerson Commons
McFerson Commons, also known as Arch Park, is a 2.21 acre park that was developed by Nationwide Insurance after the demolition of the Ohio Penitentiary. It is part of the Scioto Mile Parks System, a sub-system of the Columbus Recreation and Parks Department. The park is dedicated to honor Dimon R. McFerson who was the Chairman and CEO of Nationwide Insurance from 1992 to 2000. The Beaux-Arts arch is the focal point of the park and is located opposite Nationwide Arena Plaza. The arch was recovered from Columbus's Union Station during its 1979 demolition to make way for the Greater Columbus Convention Center, which serves as the Arena District's eastern boundary. Locals often incorrectly believe the Arch came from the Ohio Penitentiary. The park hosts numerous events throughout the year, such as marathons, triathlons, concerts and auxiliary events for Columbus Blue Jackets games and other events at Nationwide Arena.

Battelle Plaza
Battelle Plaza is an open-air Plaza located on the east side of Nationwide Arena. It is named for Battelle Memorial Institute, a non-profit research and development company. It is the hub of many events, but most notably Columbus Blue Jackets pre-game festivities. It provides access to Nationwide Arena and a pedestrian walkway that runs through the center of the Arena District. This walkway provides further access to restaurants and bars. The pedestrian bridge often serves as a meeting point for those attending events at Nationwide Arena.

Nationwide Arena Plaza
Nationwide Arena Plaza is an open-air plaza located on the west side of Nationwide Arena and sits across Nationwide Boulevard from McFerson Commons. It provides access to the Ohio Health Ice Haus, the practice facility of the Columbus Blue Jackets and several local high school teams, and the Big Lots! Box Office. It hosts numerous events in the Arena District, but serves as a primary entrance for Columbus Blue Jackets games and other arena events. It hosts lines prior to Blue Jackets games for the Student Ticket Rush and the Huntington Green Seats promotions.

Residential
The Arena District has five new-construction residential buildings with a total of 770 units ranging from studio-style apartments to four-bedroom units.

One of these residential buildings, Buggyworks, was the manufacturing facility of the Columbus Buggy Co. The Columbus Buggy Co. is notable for its likely influence on Henry Ford, and production methods for buggys/automobiles, as well as ties to Clinton Firestone (President of Columbus Buggy Co.), cousin to American Industrialist Harvey Samuel Firestone. Harvey Firestone sold Columbus Buggys in Detroit, Michigan prior to the founding of Firestone Tires. Production at the Columbus Buggy Co. peaked in the 1890s, but faltered due to the invention and adoption of the automobile, as well as substantial damage from the Great Flood of 1913.

Columbus Blue Jackets
The Columbus Blue Jackets are a National Hockey League hockey team in the Metropolitan Division of the Eastern Conference. Founded in 2000 as an expansion team of the NHL, the Columbus Blue Jackets play their home games and are the primary tenant of Nationwide Arena in the Arena District neighborhood. Their name comes from the Union Army of the American Civil War who wore blue jackets. One of the more notable traditions of the Columbus Blue Jackets is the Cannon used during the hockey games. The cannon is fired when the Blue Jackets enter the arena, score a goal and win a game, followed by the chorus of “The Whip” by band Locksley. The cannon is a replica of a 12 lbs. 1857 Napoleon Cannon that was commonly used during the American Civil War. Two similar Napoleon cannons are a short walk away at the Ohio Statehouse where they can be found “…standing in silent guard,” of the Capitol.

Columbus Clippers
The Columbus Clippers are the minor league Triple-A affiliate of the MLB Cleveland Indians. The Clippers play in the International League and play their home games at Huntington Park. Columbus was awarded the Clippers franchise in 1977. From 1977 to 2008 the Clippers played their home games at Cooper Stadium, previously known as Franklin County Stadium and referred to by fans as “The Coop.” In 2009 the Clippers moved into Huntington Park. The Clippers have been the minor league team for the Pittsburgh Pirates, New York Yankees, Washington Nationals and Cleveland Indians.

Columbus Crew
Only July 3, 2021, the Crew moved from their longtime home of Mapfre Stadium to Lower.com Field.

Entertainment
The neighborhood has several public spaces that are used of for major events throughout the year. These events include the Arnold Sports Festival, Jazz & Rib Fest, Columbus Blue Jackets hockey games, marathons and triathlons. Additionally, there are restaurants and bars that populate arena district. Other nearby entertainment is available in the Park Street District, directly north of the Arena District.

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London Underground 2009 Stock

The London Underground 2009 Stock is a type of London Underground train built by Bombardier as part of its Movia family at its Derby Litchurch Lane Works, England. A total of 47 eight-car trains have been built for the Victoria line. They entered service between July 2009 and June 2011 and replaced the 1967 Tube Stock. It is the first new deep level tube stock on the Underground network since the 1996 Stock entered service on the Jubilee line in 1997.

Background
The Victoria line is the most intensively used line on the Underground, in terms of the average number of journeys per kilometre. In the early 2000s, the reliability of service on the line was decreasing due to the age of the 1960s-era Automatic Train Operation (ATO) system, and the 1967 Stock used on the line.

Following the implementation of the London Underground Public Private Partnership in 2003, the Metronet consortium responsible for the infrastructure on the Victoria line began work on a substantial upgrade of the line. As part of the consortium, Bombardier Transportation would design, build and maintain the new rolling stock.

In the 1990s, London Underground designed an open gangway "Space Train" with walk through carriages to increase capacity in the deep level tube. However, due to the technical risk and financial risk of not meeting the PPP contract requirements, Metronet ordered conventional trains from Bombardier in 2003, which were originally planned to enter service in 2006 at a cost of £750million.

Design and pre-production delays
The design of the trains was finalised in September 2004. Manufacture of two pre-production trains began in early 2005, with the first scheduled to be completed by mid-2006. In February 2006, Metronet announced that the first of the pre-production cars had been completed in preparation for static testing. From 21 July to 4 August 2006, a mock-up of the train was on show at Euston Square Gardens, near Euston Square station, for a customer acceptance test followed by public display.

From September 2006, the first pre-production train underwent testing at Bombardier's manufacturing and test site at Derby Litchurch Lane Works. Delays meant that the first pre-production train was not delivered to London until May 2007. Testing, training and familiarisation work could then begin. Throughout the late 2000s, installation and testing of the new "Distance to Go" signalling system for the new trains was being installed on the existing line.

Metronet, the private consortium responsible for the infrastructure on the Victoria line, collapsed in July 2007 due to financial difficulties. Following negotiations with Bombardier, Transport for London took ownership of Metronet in May 2008, allowing for the upgrade to continue.

Production and introduction into service
The second pre-production train was expected to begin trial running in full passenger service in July 2008. This date slipped twice, first to January 2009 and then to July 2009. The train entered service on 21 July 2009, leaving Northumberland Park depot at 23:00 and forming the 23:55 service between and.

Main production at Derby Litchurch Lane Works commenced at the end of 2009. One train entered passenger service every two weeks from February 2010. By mid-2011, there was a sufficient number of trains in service to allow the withdrawal of the few remaining 1967 Stock trains, the last of which ran on 30 June 2011. By July 2011, the full fleet of 2009 Stock trains were in service.

Issues during introduction to service
During the introduction of the trains, various teething issues with the new trains caused disruption on the line. During the morning rush hour on 21 July 2010, a train broke down at, and ambulances had to be called in to rescue almost 3,000 trapped passengers. Five days later, on 26 July 2010, another morning rush-hour train broke down at, causing all Victoria line services to be temporarily suspended. Transport for London cited software failures and over-sensitive door sensors as the main causes of both problems. Subsequent analysis has used the analogy of the bathtub curve to explain the large number of early issues with the trains.

Most frequent service in UK
By the mid 2010s, the trains and signalling system were displaying exceptional levels of reliability, with the 2009 Stock travelling around six times further between failures than the 1967 Stock. A subsequent series of upgrades to the signalling system and track work allowed for an increase to frequency of service to up to 36 trains per hour, the most frequent in the UK and one of the most frequent in Europe. This was assisted by Metronet having ordered a larger train fleet than required.

Features
Built as part of the Victoria line upgrade in conjunction with new signalling, the trains were designed to decrease journey times, improve reliability to minimise long term maintenance costs, as well as increase passenger capacity per train.

Compared to the 1967 Stock they replaced, the train has improved acceleration and a higher top speed of 80 km/h. Braking performance is improved through the use of regenerative brakes, which save energy. Originally intended to have all-motored axles to achieve targeted running times (as in the 1992 Stock), it was later decided that 75% of motored axles would be sufficient to achieve the targeted improved acceleration and higher top speed.

This reduction saved weight, as well as reducing project costs by around £10million, about 3.5% of the overall cost. Overall, the new train allows for a decrease in journey times in between stations by 8% and overall journey times by 16%. At peak times, 43 trains should be in service, an increase of six over the 1967 Stock.

The trains are 40 mm wider than the 1967 Stock to take advantage of the Victoria line's loading gauge, which is slightly larger than those of other deep-level tube lines. This, however, prevents them from leaving the Victoria line, except by road. The trains were the longest deep-level tube trains on the system when introduced, at 133.275 m, 3 m longer than the 1967 Stock.

The trains were built using Bombardier's FICAS technology, giving a thinner bodyshell and more internal space for passengers. Overall, the train has a 19% increase in capacity over the 1967 Stock, seating 252 and with standing space for an estimated 1,196 passengers. The electrically powered train doors are wider for easier and faster boarding and alighting of passengers in order to reduce dwell times in stations.

They are the first London Underground trains to be designed since the Rail Vehicle Accessibility Regulations were introduced, so they have more facilities for people with impaired mobility, including multi-purpose areas with tip-up seats and space for wheelchairs and pushchairs, and offset centre door poles for wheelchair access. They have CCTV cameras and dot-matrix displays to show real-time service information. The train maintains a fixed height above the rail for ease of access, regardless of the loading of the train and extent of wheel wear.

Unlike most other London Underground trains, they have their Combined Traction/Brake Controller, driver's manual controls, often called "dead man's handle" on the right-hand side of the cab, as most of the platforms on the Victoria line are on the right. Access to the cab for driver changes is easier than on the 1967 Stock: an external side door is fitted, whereas the cab in the 1967 Stock had to be accessed through the passenger compartment, which could be difficult at rush hour. The cab is fitted with dedicated air-conditioning.

Each train is made up of two 4-car units of the configuration Driving Motor–Trailer–Non Driving Motor–Uncoupling (Shunting) Non Driving Motor, which are coupled back-to-back. They have mechanical-only Scharfenberg couplers. The trains are maintained at the Victoria line's Northumberland Park Depot, with Bombardier staff on site for warranty parts replacement.

Roster
Individual cars of the 2009 Stock have a five-digit number. The second digit identifies the role of car and the last three digits identify the set number (Numbers 001 to 094). 'A' end units have odd numbers while 'D' end units have even. The numbering system of the 2009 stock upon introduction is as follows:

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 * DM – Driving Motor car
 * T – Trailer (non-powered) car
 * NDM – Non-Driving Motor car
 * UNDM – Uncoupling Non-Driving Motor car

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Partidul Democrat

Partidul Democrat may refer to:

 * Democratic Party (Romania)
 * Democratic Party of Moldova

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Upon September

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE.  Rob e  rt  17:14, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Upon September
Part of a multiple article hoax. See also Christopher Tatum and Break You. KeithD (talk) 21:26, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. --Vsion
 * delete as above Pete.Hurd 16:52, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
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Partidul Național Liberal

Partidul Național Liberal may refer to:

 * National Liberal Party (Moldova), a political party in the Republic of Moldova
 * National Liberal Party (Romania), a centre-right liberal party in Romania

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Chemists Without Borders

Chemists Without Borders is a non-governmental organization involved in international development work designed to solve humanitarian problems through chemistry and related activities. As a public benefit, non-profit organization, the primary goals of Chemists Without Borders include:
 * providing affordable medicines and vaccines to those who need them most
 * providing clean water through water purification technologies
 * supporting sustainable energy technologies
 * encouraging open access to scholarly chemistry research articles throughout the world
 * advocating a better understanding of chemistry through education

Chemists Without Borders was founded in 2004 by Bego Gerber and Steve Chambreau as a result of a letter that Gerber sent to the editor of Chemical and Engineering News in September 2004.

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Talk:Spartacus (disambiguation)

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The information about Spartacus was very interesting. I'm surprised that Spartacus motivated so many people. I didn't know that so many people felt like "slaves" in society. But, what does his name mean? I can't seem to find anything on it. Does it mean that he or one of his ancestors was originally a Greek from Sparta? (Sept.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.24.94.243 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

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Matt Pond PA

Matt Pond PA is a New York–based band formed in Philadelphia by singer-songwriter Matt Pond. It has released numerous LPs, EPs, and singles.

Throughout the years Pond enlisted a rotating cast of collaborators for recording and touring, including cellists Jim Hostetter and Eve Miller, violinist Rosie McNamara-Jones, drummers Mike Kennedy and Dan Crowell, bassists Matt Raisch and Josh Kramer, and guitarists Jim Kehoe and Brian Pearl. Chris Hansen, producer and guitarist, has been a core member of the group since 2007. Cellist Shawn Alpay, who performs individually as Completions, has recorded and toured as a member of the band.

Matt Pond announced on October 30, 2017, on his website and social media accounts that he would be retiring the Matt Pond PA moniker but would continue making music with Hansen, briefly considering the name The Dark Leaves before finding out it had already been taken. However, Pond and Hansen continued to release music under the name Matt Pond PA until 2022, when they briefly transitioned to performing as The Natural Lines, before eventually returning to Matt Pond PA in late 2023.

Current members

 * Matt Pond – vocals, guitar (1998-2022, 2023–present)
 * Chris Hansen – guitar, vocals (2010-2022, 2023–present)

Early history (1998–2002)
Debuting in 1998 with Deer Apartments, the band quickly gained momentum through claiming top honors in an unsigned bands competition sponsored by CDNOW. Their sophomore album, Measure, was released in 2000 and a follow-up EP I Thought You Were Sleeping was issued the following year. The band first release on Polyvinyl, The Green Fury, was released in the spring of 2002 and The Nature of Maps followed soon after.

Emblems, Several Arrows Later, Last Light, The Freeep, and The Threeep (2004–2009)
Pond relocated to Brooklyn in 2003 and recorded the band's breakthrough album, Emblems, which was released on Altitude in 2004. In 2005 the band issued the seasonal EP, Winter Songs, which gained a larger following when Starbucks used the song "Snow Day" in a television commercial. Several months later released their 6th full-length LP entitled Several Arrows Later. 2007 saw the launch of If You Want Blood and Last Light. In 2008 the band released a free EP entitled The Freeep which was later sold under the name Auri Sacra Fames in 2009. An EP called The Threeep was also released in 2009.

The Dark Leaves, The Lives Inside the Lines in Your Hand, and The State of Gold (2010–2017)
Holing up in a cabin in Upstate New York, Pond recorded The Dark Leaves with producer Chris Hansen and several other guest musicians in 2010. In 2011, Matt Pond PA released his EP titled Spring Fools, which included three songs. One of the songs, "Love to Get Used", was featured later on in the Vince Vaughn movie Delivery Man (film) in 2013. 2013 saw the brief removal of “PA” from the band name and the release of The Lives Inside the Lines in Your Hand. The band recorded and released 2015's The State of Gold while simultaneously playing anniversary tours for both Emblems and Several Arrows Later.

Winter Lives, Still Summer, Free Fall, A Collection of Bees, Pt. 1, The State of Gold reissue, Retirement of Name (2016–2022)
Matt Pond launched 131 Records in the summer of 2016 from a desire to retain complete control over his musical process. He uses Patreon, a platform that allows fans to directly interact and contribute to the artist, to fund the endeavor.

On November 11, 2016, Matt Pond PA released their eleventh album, Winter Lives. Keeping with the seasonal theme, Still Summer followed on August 11, 2017.

On October 30, 2017, Matt Pond announced via his website and social media accounts, "...It is time to say goodbye to the oddly named Matt Pond PA. We’ll soon release a reprising holiday EP. And these shows in December will be the last we play under that honorific. (Or at least for a long, long, long, long, long, long time.) Whatever happens next, I will continue to make music. We’re focusing the crux of our upcoming efforts here. Just without my name on all the baloney. It’s time for a different brand of baloney..."

The band released what at the time was considered to be its final EP, "More Winter Lives", on November 21, 2017, and final show on December 16, 2017, in Kingston, New York.

Until 2022, Matt Pond continued to publish music under the name Matt Pond PA. Matt Pond and Chris Hansen released the album Free Fall on October 30, 2018. Matt Pond PA released A Collection of Bees, Pt. 1 on February 7, 2020. and Songs of Disquiet on August 7, 2020. After reacquiring the rights to 2015's The State of Gold from their former record label, the band released a "resequenced, remastered and partially re-recorded" version of the album on September 24, 2021.

On August 31, 2022, the Matt Pond PA moniker would officially be retired, and Pond and Hansen would be releasing music under the name The Natural Lines. The announcement coincided with a new single, "The Problem is Me" and a debut EP pre-order.

Return (2023-present)
After releasing a self-titled LP as The Natural Lines in early 2023, released through label Bella Union, Pond decided to revive the Matt Pond PA moniker in October 2023. Pond, “Our album as The Natural Lines was one of my favorite experiences in making music. We thoughtfully built songs and a band that represented the inner world of the post-pandemic return to reality. But as it stands now, I’ve said everything I can in that incarnation. I gave myself a strange band name back in Philly and it’s been impossible to shake. As much as I love to run, there’s no running from who I am.” The band released a single and music video, "Imagining Everything" to coincide with their return, followed by a second single, "Halloween Two" in November. Additional plans include an EP and tour.

EPs

 * I Thought You Were Sleeping (2001)
 * This Is Not the Green Fury (2001), vinyl only
 * Four Songs (2004)
 * Winter Songs (2005)
 * If You Want Blood (2007)
 * The Freeep (2008), download only
 * Spring Fools (2011)
 * The Natural Lines (2013)
 * Threeep (2013), download only
 * Free the Fawns! (2016), download only
 * Double Freeture (2017), download only
 * More Winter Lives (2017), download only
 * Early B-Sides, download only
 * Songs of Disquiet (2020), download only
 * This Is Not The State of Gold (2021), download only

Singles

 * Lily Two/Golden Brown (2004)
 * Halloween (2005)
 * Snow Day/Holiday Road (2005)
 * So Much Trouble (2005)
 * Sunlight (2007)
 * People Have a Way (2007)
 * Starting (2009), vinyl only
 * Remains (2010), download only
 * Love To Get Used (2013), promo only
 * Hole in My Heart (2013), download only
 * Ruins (2013), download only
 * Drive with Anya Marina (2017), download only
 * Specks (Redux) with Anya Marina (2020), download only
 * Imagining Everything (2023), download only
 * Halloween Two (2023), download only

With Chris Hansen

 * Lebanon, PA (2011)
 * Free Fall (2018)

Other songs

 * "Green Shirt" (Elvis Costello cover) from Almost You: The Songs of Elvis Costello (2002)
 * "Champagne Supernova" (Oasis cover) from The OC: Mix 4 (2005)
 * "I'm Not Okay" (My Chemical Romance cover) from Guilt by Association Vol. 2 (2008)

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Talk:Value investing

This page has potential

 * I think that this is an article/page at Wikipedia that could become much more substantial, and be a meeting place for value investors to add more tidbits of strategy, history, and resources. Let's try to pool together our knowledge and ramp up this article! Smeelgova 03:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

It still seems like a hazy concept. Where is a reliable source defining value investing? Linking to Graham's work, which is all we have in the introduction, doesn't define the term - he was just writing about what he viewed to be the correct methods of Security Analysis. Without a clear scope, there's all sorts of arguably irrelevant material. Is Buffett's performance really a core aspect of the concept of value investing? Mwaldman MA (talk) 21:48, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Commercial Content

 * Agree this page could be more substantial. However, according to rules of community, blatantly promotional content may be in appropriate. Therefore removed reference to Value Congress and a few other things.  Please respect rules of the wiki community.
 * In order to "respect rules of the wiki community.", one must define what is and is not of important to the average reader who stumbles upon the Value Investing page. The Value Investing Congress is not "blatantly promotional content", but a well regarded event attended by many other famous and successful investors besides Tilson.  The reader would benefit from this information.  I have no personal connection to the conference and have never been myself, but the list of investors who have attended speaks for itself.  These include Bill Miller, Joel Greenblatt, and Marty Whitman, among others. Smeelgova 02:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Smeelgova, I agree that the VIC is not blatantly promotional, but I do question its importance. At the least, I think it should be lower on the page, since it is somewhat tangential to the concept of value investing. This will be more important once we add more, such as the aforementioned concept of intrinsic value. Goodemi 18:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Organization
Howdy! This page looks to me like it needs a lot better organization--the lists of value investors is not in any order. Some of the sections seem misplaced. I think a section on how successful various value investors have been or how successful the basic value strategy is would be a nice addition. I'll see what I can contribute. Goodemi 16:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I think talking about Buffett's article on the Superinvestors of Graham and Doddsville would be useful: http://www1.gsb.columbia.edu/valueinvesting/research/public_archives/DOC032.PDF

Changes to Well Known Value Investors?
 * Put a short blurb on their investing performance?Goodemi 16:33, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Sure, converting some of the list into a narrative section and making the remaining list a sub-section would probably look much better. I always think that naked lists look too bare and uninformative. --GraemeL (talk) 16:49, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Value Investing
Thanks for offering to help on the value investing page, this can be a neat place to pool our resources in this area and create a nice article for visitors.Smeelgova 17:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Deep Value Investing
I created a page for Deep Value Investing which is more specific style of value investing and has also returned better results. Do you guys think it would be a good idea to add Deep Value Investing as a link on this page?

- Dave

 * Dave--sign your name with 4 tildes. Also, why does there need to be a seperate page on 'deep value investing'? It sounds more like a marketing term than a widely used term. For example, I have not seen either Graham or Buffett use the term 'Deep Value'. They both, on the other hand, talked about buying stocks well below book value. At the moment, what new information you have on the deep value investing page could easily go in a section on the value investing page as a type of value investing: 'buying stocks below book value'. Goodemi 15:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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Adding an external link
I would be interested in hearing opinions of Wikipedia users about usefulness of adding this external link to the article: iStoskResearch Using value investing approach and methodology, iStoskResearch provides intrinsic (or fair) value calculations for most actively-traded US and Canadian stocks. Personally, I find it very useful. The model is also highly praised by Value Investing For Dummies and by High-Powered Investing All-In-One For Dummies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.122.208.187 (talk) 06:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It shouldn't be there per WP:ELNO points 2, 4, 5, and 11. - MrOllie (talk) 13:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Criticism Section
With respect to the first comment regarding losses in bear markets, the citation is a dead link. Both comments in this paragraph should be expanded on in a much broader discussion. I think talking about losses or missing out on gains misses the point of value investing which is more of a long-term approach. Empirical research regarding long-term approach of such strategies should be analyzed. The issue of market timing seems to be a separate issue, imo, and is a problem for any investment strategy. I'm also recommending (see section below) a section be created on "Empirical Research" which I think will be valuable for the page but also valuable for people wanting to develop value investing strategies.

With respect to the second paragraph is probably a good criticism but should be put under a longer heading of "Intrinsic Value" which should discuss various formulas for calculating intrinsic value among other things.

Somrh (talk) 21:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Empirical Research
I think this would be a valuable section. Further it would tailor to Smeelgova's desire to have resources while still maintaining this page as being an informative article. Here are a few issues I think worthwhile to discuss.

1) Efficient markets hypothesis. In particular, for value investing to "work", markets must be inefficient (Graham likened markets to be "voting machines" in the short term.) As such any evidence related to EMH would likely be applicable here.

2) Studies on low P/B versus high P/B stocks.

3) Studies on Graham's 10 criteria and the evidence that shows that certain combinations yield outperforming results. Here I have in mind papers like Oppenheimer (1984), Oppenheimer (1986), Klerck and Maritz (1997).

4) Joseph Piotroski's research which is a followup on the low P/B results. Roughly speaking the EMH guys claimed that beta doesn't completely capture risk and therefore low P/B are financially distressed and therefore more risky (which explains why they have higher returns.) Piotroski's research shows that low P/B companies can be separated as financially distressed (low F-score) and not financially distressed (high F-score) and the ones that aren't financially distressed tend to outperform. Follow-up studies applied the criteria to the high P/B as well.

5) Other metrics might be of interest as well such as Altman's bankruptcy research and Beneish's earnings manipulation research.

Somrh (talk) 21:38, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Well-known value investors
would delte the following: "John Addis, co-founder of Intelligent Investor (Company) based in Australia, has been running the business on the principles of value investing since 1998.[8]"

the track record is based on model portfolios. everybody knows what that means.... the other well known value investors have real returns...

--Luckyseven77 (talk) 00:25, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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Two meanings
I feel like this article needs to better articulate the two meanings of the term 'value investing'.

Most of the article refers to the original meaning i.e. "buying securities that appear underpriced by some form of fundamental analysis".

More recently, the term 'value investing' has become corrupted to also mean "buying securities with low valuation metrics" e.g. low price-to-earnings ratios or high FCF yields.

I don't like it, but we can't deny that this meaning is now in common usage - just look at the amount of investment managers now employing 'value' strategies. The article implicitly acknowledges the dual meaning, e.g. in the criticism section, but doesn't spell it out.

I'm a new editor so don't feel confident doing it myself, but perhaps if someone more experienced comes across this they could have a go at editing the introduction. PieLover3141592654 (talk) 07:39, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Mike Mussina

major overhaul on 7/25/07
i just spent about 2 hours completely overhauling this page, fixing grammatical errors, providing linkage to many things, removing unneccesary info. HOWEVER, this former absolute *eyesore* is far from being done, and whoever edited or wrote the page previously should stay away and not do anything else except read it.

im gonna work on integrating the trivia section into the overall article, since many of the facts in trivia either dont belong there, or are completely useless and irrelevant. but for now, while ive done enough, i just posted some stuff in the trivia to help me remember and move them at a later time.

also, ill plan on writing a little bit more in depth about each of his individual seasons, and either completely take out the "post season" subsection, or write about his postseasons in it. everything is very out of order and thrown around concerning his post seasons.

also, i took out that entire "near perfect games" section, since it was completely useless and relatively long. if we listed every near perfect game a pitcher throws, then nolan ryan, pedro martinez, roger clemens, sandy koufax, bob gibson, and many others would have 2 pages worth of the section on each of their respective wiki articles. if he pitches a no hitter or he DOES throw a perfect game, then u can add a section for it, but for now, we dont need to know about all of his "near" perfect games.

ill try and add a "personal" section (his marriage would then be moved there from the trivia section) if i can find enough stuff about his personal life.

also, im probably gonna end up completely taking out all that stuff on his football and basketball stats from high school. its completely useless to the article. hes a baseball player, if u wanna list his stats from high school list his baseball stats. u can MENTION that he played football and basketball as well if u want, but no need to go in depth about it. if he were a professional 3 sport star, then sure, go ahead and list all the stats u want. but for now, he doesnt play football, he doesnt play basketball, we dont need to know his stats of those sports from HIGH SCHOOL.

i dont know, and never have known or understood, how exactly to add references, so i decided not to add any. however, if anybody wants the references, just tell me and ill post the link here and tell u where they should be. i assure u, i have references for many of the things in this article that need them (unless of course its bullshit), but like i said, i just dont know how to add them.

i didnt clean this up a bit cuz i like the guy, being a sox fan and from boston i absolutely hate him, but i hurt my foot yesterday, so while im bedridden, ive decided to clean up the wiki pages of all the players on my fantasy team >_> 69.119.143.219 00:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

First changes
Made a few changes:

"Mussina had become the ace of a questionable Yankee pitching rotation." Questionable is something of POV. Changed to "was proclaimed to be the ace."

"This anthropomorphic Moose is considered a first-ballot hall-of-famer.". I'm a Yankees fan (and Moose fan, even when he was in Baltimore), but he is NOT a first ballot hall of famer. I don't want to clutter the talk page with a bunch of baseball chatter and comparisons, but its simply (unfortunately) untrue. lucidMatt

Mike is listed as batting "left" but he's actually a switch hitter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.140.42.95 (talk • contribs) 10:10, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Layout cleanup
I cleaned up the layout a bit and updated the stats to their current status. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.17.205.25 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Baseball America American League All Star?
Where did this term come from? Is it actually the All-Star game or something else? None of the cited sources in the article mentions any term close to it. There are no relevant Wikipedia articles about it, either. Please clarify. Thanks. Vic226 22:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. For reference that particular award having been awarded to Mike Mussina, see http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/M/mike-mussina.shtml. --Epeefleche 23:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Last two sentences in the lead section
I am having trouble moving the last two notes of his less-general awards (as opposed to the more commonly known Cy Young Award and Gold Glove Award) elsewhere in this article. As a list of awards (especially by years) would look more or less cumbersome, I compiled them into the lead while knowing that Baseball-America-related and Baltimore Player of the Year awards are too specific for it. Does anyone have suggestions on where to settle these awards, or is there a way to note them as explicit omissions next to the link Epeefleche provided? Vic226 05:29, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Deletion on Orioles fans' reaction to 2000 trade & No-Trade Clause
I have deleted the following paragraph:

"'Many Orioles fans saw the move as a failure to act on their hometown team's part. Many felt that Orioles management wrongly assumed that Mussina would stay loyal to the team, despite being offered more money and being heavily courted by Yankees management. Contrary to popular belief, it was the Orioles' refusal to include a 'No-Trade Clause' in his contract that forced a change in teams.'"

The first part on Orioles fans are unlikely discovered by researches from reliable sources, not to mention that it might have a slight taste of biased view. The second part on "Orioles' refusal to include a 'No-Trade Clause'" contradicts this source, in which there are notes about Mussina unwilling to waive his apparenly existed no-trade clause. --Vic226 05:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

(And the above paragraph sounds like an Orioles fan and a Yankees fan contradiction each other :-) first 2 sentences were added by one and the last sentence was added by another) Vic226 09:49, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The "no trade" issue was a major factor in new contract talks with the Orioles. They had purchased no trade clauses from other players (there were only 2, I think and Brady Anderson was one) and had made it policy not to include that clause in any future contracts with any player. Many believed that Mike went to the Yankees for the money and that is simply not the case, moreover his desire to stay close to home. I am neither an Orioles or Yankees fan, just a friend of Mike's and you could say that I heard it straight from the Moose's mouth!--67.140.40.86 22:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, as your explanation goes, maybe you could verify it by finding a reliable source that supports what you said above? Also, I'm not sure if I would buy that, but it would still be original research for saying that "I heard it straight from the Moose's mouth" (which would be unwanted for Wikipedia's standard). After all, one of the reasons I deleted the paragraph was because it wasn't even properly sourced.

 * After some more brute work of searching, I found this news in a good flavor to the deleted information above. Respond here for any questions/comments about this source and the readding of the information back into the article (but not without some rewriting to be done. For example, "forced a change in teams" sounds rather too extreme as he indicated that "depending on what they want to do, I'll be back or I won't. But nothing's going to happen before then"). Cheers,  Vic226  (chat) 10:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

numbers
I do not agree with the last change ... on numbers. Where in that wikipedia reference are you referring to? Also, you spell out the numbers incorrectly in a number of places. I would suggest a revert. Thanks. --Epeefleche 08:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't know if Wikipedia has a consensus of editors on the style of the ordinal numbers, but (though irrevalent) I found the guideline discourages using ordinal suffixes, so I wonder if the general consensus considers the use of ordinal suffixes awkward.

 * Let's take "ninth" for example (by the way, I fixed the "nineth" to "ninth" which is the only apparent error when I double-checked again): ninth, 9th, or maybe even 9th. I'm not sure how you would view each of them, but of the three, "9th" would be the least fluent in appearance to me. Though "9th" looks in a few ways better than "ninth", it would be quite a work, even a nuisance, to convert every ordinal numbers in every article to that style since most people adapt to the ordinal numbers written in words. Of course, there is a limitation: this would be best only to numbers composed of two words or less (e.g. in the case of twenty-thousand-ninety-sixth, 2096th is more preferable). Since Mussina isn't ranked in 100th or lower for any category listed in the article, I changed them to words.

 * And I just realized that I missed the numbers-only part. Same things apply (see Manual of Style (dates and numbers)):

 * "'Whole numbers from zero to ten are spelled out as words in the body of an article. Use numerals in tables and infoboxes.'"

 * By the way, my reference to WP:NOT is about the ranks of categories you have listed for each year. These are going somewhat too detailed for a general audience, and they cannot be any more notable than his breakthrough of 2,500 strikeout barrier or his six-time Gold Glove Awards. Since there lacks a bit of his milestones/achievements/media attentions (which is more important for Wikipedia), I did not revert them.

 * Still, I'm open for any opinions and/or suggestions you might have after reading my annoyingly overwhelming essay above ;-). Cheers, Vic226 09:45, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. If you continue reading the Manual of Style re numbers, you will see the following modification to the rule that you mentioned: "Numbers in words....Within a context or a list, style should be consistent. Example: There were 5 cats, 12 dogs, and 32 birds. or There were five cats, twelve dogs, and thirty-two birds." Thus, I would submit that it is contemplated that here is is permissible to say 5th -- rather than fifth. Actually, required when we will later say "100th" rather than "hundreth." And, given that in these article we are dealing with a great number of numbers, I believe that it is much easier to read 5th than fifth.

I might also point out that you in the above wrote 100th rather than hundreth. Which, in my view, is better for our purposes.

To me, 9th is the most fluent in appearance, the most common, and easier to type than 9th.

BTW, I believe that while it is know as W-L percentage, if you for some reason want to spell it out it is not win-lose, but rather won-lost, percentage.

I would still suggest that you revert the numbers, given the above. Thanks.--Epeefleche 17:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

My opinion on this is the same as the Blue Book and the California Style Manual; when it is a number less than 10, spell it out, so "fifth," "ninth," &c. If it's a number 10 or over, use the Arabic, so "11th," "13th," &c. No need to use superscripts. --Nlu (talk) 18:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Hi, I write in response to the message left on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers).
 * The guideline that numbers under ten should be spelt out also holds for ordinals. It is generally considered standard practice for small numbers to be spelt out.
 * With respect to the consistency guideline, I would note that in this instance, all the affected numbers can be expressed in two or fewer words, and that the vast majority of them can be expressed in one, so to spell all them out is preferred. For the purposes of this guideline, the numbers in brackets do not count, as they are not the same context: they could not be considered to be part of the same "list".  Therefore, it would be correct to spell out all of the subject's rankings and phrases such as "six-time" in this article.
 * As a sidenote, decimals less than one should be written with a leading zero (e.g. 0.275, not .275) for clarity; percentages in prose should be written with per cent (British) or percent (American) rather than %; and acronyms should be written out in full on the first occurance, and then noted in brackets after, e.g. "American League Championship Series (ALCS)" on its first occurance, then "ALCS" (not linked) every time after that: never assume that a reader knows what the acronym means. Neonumbers 00:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I don't remember there being any consensus reached anywhere in Wikipedia before the reversion to numeral forms for several contents (and I'm not going to change it back now only to contradict my statement above). So, let me try again.

Take this small passage for example:

"In 2006, he end the season with a 15-7 record. He was 2nd in the league in OBP allowed (.279.; 224/803); 3rd in the AL in walks/9 IP (1.60), batting average against (.241; 184/762) and strikeout/walk ratio (4.91), 4th in ERA (3.51), 6th in win-lose pearcentage (.682), 8th in strikeouts (172), and 9th in strikeouts/9 IP (7.84)."

I think I do have an explanation to change all the orders with single numbers to letter form while abiding what you have been persistent on about the "consistency" rule. In the passage above, there are actually two distinct contexts (one is the ranks, and another is the statistics), except that they are crisscrossed with each other. This would undoubtedly confuse some of us because there was never a clear definition of "context" in the Manual Of Style. Hence, I believe the ranks have nothing to do with the statistics that followed all of the stat names. The example you have been using (i.e. "There were 5 cats, 12 dogs, and 32 birds") contains only one simple context, and therefore is easier to determine whether to use numerals or letters. Therefore:

"In 2006, he end the season with a 15-7 record. He was second in the league in OBP allowed (.279.; 224/803); third in the AL in walks/9 IP (1.60), batting average against (.241; 184/762) and strikeout/walk ratio (4.91), fourth in ERA (3.51), sixth in win-lose pearcentage (.682), eighth in strikeouts (172), and ninth in strikeouts/9 IP (7.84)."

I believe it would still follow both the single-number and consistency rules in the MOS. The overall context is still illustrating his ranks (and they are all under 10) in different fields of statistics. The number-form statistics was added afterwards and appeared to "merge" into the original context of the passage. There are many others that have the same confusion as the one presented above.

Feel free to share your thoughts on the argument I presented above. Regards,  Vic226  (chat) 02:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

"In 2005, Mussina was no longer the Yankees' ace."
This line is somewhat 'biased,' and I am sure that there is a better way to write this line to make seem less like a negative fact. Lawrenceku 02:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Hall of Fame Debate
I worked hard and carefully on this today and someone hastilly and inconsiderately reverted. This area will tend to attract POV so we need to be vigilant. In all fairness I'm a big Mussina fan and I expect other Wikipedians to keep me in line. :) That said, I changed a lot of stuff that needed to go. Jdickert (talk) 00:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)Jdickert

On second thought, I am wondering whether there ought to be a "HOF Debate" section in this article at all. Feedback anyone?

Jdickert (talk) 01:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)Jdickert

 * That section should definitely stay. There is legitimate debate among reliable third-party sources, which is what our Wikipedia guidelines are meant to ensure. With that being said, I think certain areas of that section need to be reworked, specifically the Kurkjian quote. Not only is it unsourced, there's also a POV issue with it. For every Kurkjian, there's probably another counterpart who thinks Mussina doesn't deserve the Hall of Fame. Chengwes (talk) 16:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

the_tamale I thought the section was unnecessary filler, and that's why I came to this page. The section references an article written six years ago, two years before Mussina retired! I think there is little doubt that he will be elected... some who will think he shouldn't be, agreed, but hardly a "controversy," in my opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The tamale (talk • contribs) 17:41, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry belated reply. In my view, this section remains worthwhile until Mussina is actually elected to the HOF. Mussina received 20% of the BBWAA vote in 2014; I would certainly call that a 'controversy' in light of Mussina's compelling objective merits. If and when he is elected, it would be superceded by that news. Until then, I also want to suggest including some reference to advanced baseball metrics (e.g. WAR) which are now even more mainstream just three years after the immediately preceding posts, with proper citations of course. Those metrics demonstrate an overwhelming case in favor of Mussina's election to the HOF, and support Kurkjian's expert judgment about Mussina's numbers. Jrgilb (talk) 21:19, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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