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My RfA
Ed-- Thank you for your comments concerning my RfA. However, as the page clearly states, Gabrielsimon and me now have a fine relationship. I understand your concerns though. Thank you for your time. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 13:42, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, I must say, your comment "What is this, a joke?" is very hurtful. I feel, except for the run-in with Gav and Rhobite, that I have been a fine user. Basically calling people (read: me) a joke does not make this the kind of place people want to be around. This community has already lost too many good editors, and this hostile attitude does not do much in the ways of community building. I don't expect an apology or anything. I just want you to know that there has been a lot of talk lately about being more civil around RfA, and a good first step would not be to call someone's request a joke. Sorry to bother you again. Cheers. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 13:49, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Struck out the verbiage you objected to, but I still don't like your choice of username. Admins need to inspire confidence: a name like "Hypocrite" or "Murderer" or "Scofflaw" would not. You chose the name of a fictional murder (I assume as a joke), and a user with name something like "hypocrite" nominated you with "has spread his Dark Mark far and wide". If you expect serious people to take you serious, please request a name change. I wouldn't mind "Tom Riddle" - that character was not a murderer when he called himself that at Hogwarts. But to get a full welcome from me, you better get with the program more. Uncle Ed 14:06, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you for striking it out. Ed, I know you are a very valuable, and highly regarded editor, but I must say, you are losing a lot of respect from me. So now you are punishing me for who nominated me, and how they did it? And you judge people solely on their user name? Tell me you oppose because of the personal attack in my past. Tell me you oppose because of my relative short time period here. Tell me you oppose because I am a crappy editor. Based on you comments, I have a sneaking suspicion that you may not have even read my whole RfA, and may be making decisions prematurely. I do not really have a problem with people opposing me (everyone's entitled to their own opinion), but I do have a problem with seemingly frivolous reasons why. I would almost you rather not write anything. Pull a Boothy and just sign your name. People should judge people based on their edits, not their user names. Someone with the name Angel221 or GoodEditorIAm is not automatically a valued contributor here at WP. I am not here to try to get you to change your vote (it looks like it's headed for "no consensus" anyway), I just want you to hear my concerns. And I need to "get with the program more"? The way you act, it seems like you want me to get with the program a whole lot less. Thank you for your time. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 14:35, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I thought you might react like this, "punishing me" (to use your own words) by publicly withdrawing your respect from me. If you called yourself Freddy Krueger (sp?) I would also vote against your RFA. There's a limit to how silly we can be on-line, in a serious project like this. You've crossed the line.

 * Apologize convincingly to Gabriel, deal with the name issue, be a little more courteous yourself, and you can gain my trust - if it matters to you. I won't be deciding this issue; I resigned my bureaucrat rights last month. If my words carry any weight, maybe it's because I'm right. Uncle Ed 15:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to be "holier than thou" . You are just an editor, like the rest of us. Me and Gavin already have a fine relationship. There is no apology needed. And I have not publicly withdrawn my respect from you. I still appreciate you and your work. You are a valuable contributor. I have tried to be very courteous throughout this whole RfA experience. I have had a lot of crap thrown at me (some of which isn't even my fault; Hipocrite nominating me), and think I have handled myself very amicably. You still seem to be judging me on my user name, and not my edits. That is a very bad precedent to set. And you did a nice job of dodging my comments as well. I want to earn everyone's trust here on WP, but I think some of our editors who have been here a while are forgetting the call to assume good faith. Nothing I've said here on your talk page was meant to be offensive to you, yet you feel the need to call me discourteous . Your words do carry some weight, but are no different than anyone else's. In the only interaction I've ever had with you, I have tried to be civil. Yet even before we interacted, you call me a joke. How is that civil? You obviously are voting oppose because of something. I hope it's not who nominated me, or that some of your friends also voted oppose, or truly because of my user name. I don't have much more time trying to talk to you, I just want you to know that I appreciate your want to make WP a serious project, but my user name is hardly the most childish thing going on here. I hope we can continue being, if not friends, at least respectful of each other. Your concerns signify a great love to keep WP a great resource, and a general care for Wikipedia, but I wish you would know that I have the same love, and same care. Thank you for your time. Cheers my friend. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 15:21, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I suggest you review Avoid personal remarks. I have marked up with HTML strikeout a few phrases which pertain to this policy page. If you are to be an Administrator, you will do will to uphold a higher standard of courtesy than the average user. Uncle Ed 15:51, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * So you didn't call me a joke? You didn't call me discourteous? Since you are an administrator, I would expect you to be held to a higher standard of courtesy towards an average user (me). You call me silly. You basically say I am a bad editor (the whole "get with the program" thing). And I feel I raised some very legitimate concerns which you still have failed to address. The "holier than thou" comment was in reference to your remark about me being wrong. Listen, I just want to be a good editor here. I do not really care for people attacking my integrity or character. Thanks. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 16:02, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I think it's a general truth that the more somebody carries on about how badly or unfairly they're being treated in conjunction with their nomination for adminship, the more likely they are to be perceived as being not the sort who ought to be entrusted with such a position. Whether they're right or wrong in their complaints, the mere fact that they're the sort to carry on a grudge match all over the site shows them not to be likely to be calm and even-handed in exercising their administrator powers, should they be granted. *Dan T.* 16:50, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Dtobias, I will address your comments in a minute on your talk page. Ed-- "Watch the destruction unfold here." It is silly, but do you really think this is that silly? My RfA has basically been destruction. People spitting at me, insults thrown, general "not-nicety". If this is the silliest thing on WP, I will go jump off of a bridge. And besides, it is my own user page. People's user pages can't say silly things sometimes? For some reason, it just seems you do not care for me. That's fine. I have no intention of begging people to like me. You are entitled to your opinion. But please, be kind to future people going through RfA. It is a very trying time for some people, and what you are doing to me does not really make me feel like part of the community. I appreciate your time. Thanks. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 17:15, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I wouldn't keep talking to you, if I didn't care. Let me just point out one last thing: I said There's a limit to how silly we can be on-line, in a serious project to which you replied "You call me silly" but later concede, "It is silly, but do you really think this is that silly?" It sounds like you're alternately (1) complaining about the label and (2) acknowledging the label. Now if you become an admin you'll need to be consistent.

I think you might be able to inspire trust, and how you handle all this RFA stuff will determine to a large extent you people regard you in the future. I am not trying to stop you, I am trying to help you improve. But as Chris told his son in What Dreams May Come, you gotta show me more. Uncle Ed 18:18, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * While I've certainly had enough of this back-and-forth, I just want to say that that one comment is sort of silly, but nowhere near the silliest things here on WP. I don't really like to by stereotyped based on one or two edits. 99% of what I do here is not silly. I am allowed to have some fun, right? Do you go around to the people that Extreme Lesbian Support, or generally half the stuff that gets said over at RfA, and tell them they're silly? I just am seeing a standard for me that is not being held to other people. And like I've said before, I have raised concerns you are not answering. If you feel you have said enough, that's fine, we're done, but I honostly feel there is some sort of prejudice against me. I know my RfA is headed towards "no consensus", and hope in the next few months to "show you more." I appreciate your concerns. See you around, my friend. -- Lord Vold e  mort  (Dark Mark) 18:39, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi Ed. I see there is already an extensive discussion here (which I don't care to read) but I just wanted to drop by and give you my thoughts. I see you are stressed right now, but being hostile, and really, dismissive on an admin request is not a great way to relieve it. That the nominator and candidate acted in good faith is unquestioned. Your demeaning aattitude is really quite unhelpful (reminds me of this). Plenty of others were able to oppose in a courteous and constructive. Especially considering civility was the main gist of your opposition, you may want to think about your words more next time. Thanks and hope you're feeling better! Dmcdevit·t 22:48, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Wow, maybe I should've read it, since you just moved to support at the same time I wrote that. Oh well, hope that means you see what I mean. :) Regards. Dmcdevit·t 22:51, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I changed my vote to support. Uncle Ed 22:52, 3 October 2005 (UTC)


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Francesca Alexander

Francesca Alexander (born Esther Frances Alexander; February 27, 1837 – January 21, 1917) also known as Fanny Alexander, was an American expatriate illustrator, author, folklorist, and translator.

Early life
She was born Esther Frances Alexander in Boston, Massachusetts. Her father was the portrait painter Francis Alexander and her mother Lucia Grey Alexander (née Swett) was a philanthropist from a wealthy Massachusetts family. When she was 16, the family moved to Florence, Italy.

Career
In Italy, Alexander's early artistic output was as part of her mother's charity work and she wrote about and drew portraits of poor Tuscan farmers as gifts for wealthy American donors to their cause. In the process, she became familiar with local folkways and customs, collecting songs and stories and translating them for publication.

In 1882, she was introduced to the English critic John Ruskin by a family friend. He was interested in her work, especially her simple, spiritual illustrations, and purchased two manuscripts from her for £600. The first was published in 1883 as The Story of Ida with its author listed simply as "Francesca." The volume was republished in several editions in both the United States and Great Britain.

Ruskin published her most celebrated work, Roadside Songs, in 1885. The book drew from the work of celebrated story-teller Beatrice Bernardi of Pian degli Ontani. It also contained a translation of a 17th-century ottava rima ballad with Italian original opposite the translated English stanzas. A third collection, Christ's Folk in the Apennines, was published in 1887-89.

After Ruskin's death, Alexander published Tuscan Songs (1897) and The Hidden Servants and Other Very Old Stories Told Over (1900).

Alexander was blind and in poor health in her final years, and died in Florence on January 21, 1917. She is buried in the Cimiterio degli Allori.

Selected writings

 * 1883 The Story of Ida, John Ruskin, ed. Boston: Cupples, Upham.
 * 1884-85 Roadside Songs of Tuscany, Francesca Alexander, tr. and ill. John Ruskin, ed. 4 vols. New York: Wiley.
 * 1887-89 Christ's Folk In The Apennini. Reminiscences of Her Friends Among the Tuscan Peasantry. London: George Allen.
 * 1897 Tuscan Songs.
 * 1900 The Hidden Servants and Other Very Old Stories Told Over.

Legacy
Francesca Alexander's papers are collected in the Boston Athenæum. Correspondence between Alexander and Ruskin and letters from Alexander to Ruskin's cousin and heir Joan Severn are held by the Morgan Library.

Her book The Story of Ida inspired poems by James Russell Lowell and John Greenleaf Whittier

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John Jones (record producer)

John Jones (born 1957) is a British Canadian musician, record producer, songwriter and audio engineer who has worked with Duran Duran, Celine Dion, Fleetwood Mac, Sir George Martin, Dan Hill, Steve Ferrone, Alan Frew, and the Rolling Stones.

1970s
Jones' first proper recording session was at Toronto Sound Studio, the home of producer Terry Brown, where he assisted on sessions and learned to make tea, which led to his signing as a singer songwriter for music publishers CBS Songs and ATV Music.

In 1978, he joined CBS Canada pop group Bond, as keyboard/guitarist/vocalist, and performed on Bond's last recording; I Can't Help It. He later toured with the rock cover band "FUNN" (with Dee Long & Terry Draper of Klaatu), the show band "Canada", and Gary O's, "Kid Rainbow".

In 1979, Jones began a 15-year musical and business partnership with Dee Long of Klaatu.

1980s
In 1980, Jones, along with Dee Long, and drummer Frank Watt, designed, built and operated, ESP Studios, which was a 16-track analogue MCI studio, based around a Fairlight CMI in Buttonville, Ontario, where they worked on recordings for Klaatu, Alice Cooper, Gary O', Strange Advance, Dalbello, Rational Youth, Bob Ezrin, Red Rider, Images in Vogue, Dan Hill, The Partland Brothers and Glass Tiger.

While at ESP, Jones wrote hit songs for Priscilla Wright and the number one Rational Youth hit; Bang On, as well as composing scores for the films, Hot Money with Orson Welles, A Perfect Stranger, and the TV Series "Blue Murder", with Bob Segarini.

In 1985, Jones and Long relocated to London, England where, working with George Martin and John Burgess of Associated Independent Recording, they set up Studio 5, the Fairlight CMI computer/MIDI music studio of AIR Studios on Oxford Street.

Productions for Under Milk Wood, Yes, The Rolling Stones, Demis Roussos, Paul McCartney, Terence Trent D'Arby, Elton John, The Outfield, Mark Knopfler, Willy DeVille, Roy Wood and Duran Duran until AIR Studios relocated in 1992.

Jones performed on piano at the LSO Summer Pops '87 at Barbican Hall, with Martin and he wrote the MIDI chapter in Martin's book; Making Music, and appeared in a segment of BBC's Science In Action, filmed at AIR Studios, in Studio 5.

Jones and Long also worked on the development of the Akai S1000 sampler, producing one of the first Sample CD's, The AIR Sessions, which developed into the original sound library for the S1000 sampler.

Jones began working with Duran Duran at AIR Studios, where he produced the B side single, "This Is How A Road Gets Made", and programmed sampled sounds for their Big Thing tour. Soon after, he was working full time on their Liberty album, with producer Chris Kimsey, at Olympic Studio in Barnes.

During the Liberty sessions, Jones co-produced the promotional single, "Burning the Ground", which was made up of samples of Duran Duran songs, from their Decade: Greatest Hits album release.

1990s
In 1990, Jones created samples for John Cale for the album Songs for Drella. He worked again with Chris Kimsey on Paul Rodgers's Laying Down the Law, and on the Rolling Stones' Flashpoint (album), where he edited live tracks and created the intro piece, "Continental Drift."

Jones performed with Duran Duran at the Royal Albert Hall in 1991 for Vanessa Redgrave's Jerusalem for Reconciliation concert for UNICEF, and in April 1992, he played with Queen at The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert in London.

Between 1991 and 1993, Duran Duran and Jones co-produced the comeback record, The Wedding Album with the band. Later that year, Jones produced Ny Donsk in Iceland, and in November, Jones performed with Duran Duran for their MTV Unplugged show in New York.

1994 started with Alan Frew's, Hold On, recorded in Los Angeles, for EMI Canada, where Jones co-wrote the album's hit song, So Blind, which won awards from the Society of Composers, Authors, and Music Publishers of Canada for the Most Performed Song of 1995 and for reaching Number 1.

Jones' next co-production with Duran Duran was their Thank You album of cover songs, released in 1995, which was voted #1 of the 50 Worst Albums Ever! by Q magazine in 2006.

In 1996, Jones wrote and produced tracks for Dan Hill's I'm Doing Fine, spawning the top 10 song, Wrapped, and "These Strange Times" on Fleetwood Mac's Time, featuring Mick Fleetwood on lead vocal, as well as producing, engineering and performing on Dan Hill's song, Seduces Me, for Celine Dion.

John Jones was awarded the 1997 Grammy Awards for Album Of The Year (Producer), Album Of The Year (Engineer) and Pop Album Of The Year (Producer), 'Pop Album Of The Year (Engineer) for producing Celine Dion's Seduces Me, from the multi-platinum CD, Falling Into You.

During 1998, Jones composed scores for the award winning film, Stuart Bliss, and also the films, Lucky Lawson, and Ipola (composed with Steve Ferrone).

Jones released his first solo album of his own material called One Moment in Time in 1998. The album garnered three MP3.com Pop Chart number ones for the singles State Of Mind and Turning Me inside Out.

2000s
Jones' solo album; One Moment in Time, was re-released by Victor Entertainment in Japan in late 2001, to coincide with a Kirin Beer advertising campaign, for which Jones sang the lead vocal on the song, I'll Be There, recorded for Simon Le Bon's Japanese music company Syn Entertainment.

In 2003, Jones and drummer Steve Ferrone founded Drumroll Musicians Workshop studio in Burbank, California. They were joined by guitarist and producer, Steve Postell, working on productions and sessions including Ferrone's Farm Fur, Keb' Mo', Emily Richards, Edgar Winter, Jeff Golub, Sabian, Dean & Robert Deleo, Alex Ligertwood, and Brian Auger. Duting this time, Ferrone and Jones composed the score for the film, Puzzle.

2007 saw the start of Jones' collaboration with Richard Martinez and Meninos do Morumbi, the Brazilian school and social program for favela children, founded by Flavio Pimenta, for the Music is Hope Foundation.

In November 2009, Jones released his second solo album, black n white, with drums by Ferrone.

2010s
Jones worked with composer Nick Wood and Julian Lennon on the songs "Children of the World", benefitting cancer victims, and "Hope", also with Tetsuya Komuro, and the Boys & Girls Club of Boston, to aid victims of the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami in Japan.

Jones produced the 2015 album Meninos Do Morumbi & Friends. In 2018, Jones co-produced, with Steve Sidwell and Sam Reid, the Joey Niceforo orchestral pop album Priceless, which was recorded in London at Abbey Road Studios by engineer Steve Price, and conducted by Sidwell; Terry McDermott's U.K. single "Lost Again"; and McDermott's album Beautiful Destruction.

Partial discography
Partial John Jones production discography:

 * Heredity – Rational Youth, 1985
 * 1-2-3 (Len Barry song) – Roy Wood, 1987
 * Under Milk Wood – George Martin, 1988
 * Burning the Ground – Duran Duran, 1989
 * Liberty (album) – Duran Duran, 1990
 * Flashpoint (album) – Rolling Stones, 1991
 * Duran Duran (1993 album) – Duran Duran, 1993
 * Hold On (Alan Frew album) – Alan Frew, 1995
 * Thank You (Duran Duran album) – Duran Duran, 1995
 * Time (Fleetwood Mac album) – Fleetwood Mac, 1995
 * Falling into You – Celine Dion, 1996
 * You Give – Emily Richards, 1999
 * More Head – Farm Fur, 2005
 * Lost Again – Terry McDermott, 2016

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University of the Cloister of Sor Juana

The University of the Cloister of Sor Juana (Universidad del Claustro de Sor Juana) is a private university located in the former San Jerónimo Convent in the historic center of Mexico City. This convent is best known for having been the home of Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz for over twenty five years, she produced many of her writings here. After the convent was closed in the 19th century, the large complex was divided and was home to a number of institutions and businesses, including a large dance hall in the mid 20th century. In the 1970s, the government expropriated the complex, explored it and began the restoration process. In 1979, the current university was founded at this site and it is currently the benefactor and guardian of the complex. The institution offers bachelors, two masters and two certificates, mostly in the humanities. The institution also sponsors or co-sponsors a number of cultural and educational activities, mostly situated in the historic center of the city.

The cloister complex
The cloister was founded in 1585 by Isabel de Barrios, the daughter of conquistador Andrés de Barrios. The convent was formed by the joining of two private residences, that is Alonso Ortiz (now at the extreme northeast of the Grand Claustro) and of Isabel de Barrios (at the extreme north east of the Patio de la Fundación). The two were joined then amplified by Isabel de Guevara. The complex became the home of four nuns from the Covent of La Concepción with authorization granted by archbishop Pedro Moya de Contreras as the first convents of nuns of the Saint Jerome order.

The church was built in Renaissance style with Herrerian influence and consecrated in 1623. Its columns and pilasters are Doric and bear pyramidal crests. The tower dates from 1665, but despite being built during the Baroque period, the tower is unadorned. Its circular dome rests on pendentives, of a design invented by Alonos Perez de Castaneda for the Jesus Maria Church. The sculpture of Saint Hieronymite on the second body is the second oldest stone sculpture of the colonial period. The convent here was originally named for Saint Paula.

Over the years, the convent underwent many changes as the number of cells (bedrooms) increased, along with corresponding services such as servants' quarters, a living room and expanded kitchen, until it reached the dimensions it has now.

This convent is best known for having been the home of Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz for over 27 years. The tombstone that supposedly covers here grave in the lower choir is more of a tribute than a real grave. The nun, called the "Tenth Muse" in Mexico, wrote most of her works here. In 1867, due to the Reform Laws, the convent was closed. The building was converted into a camp and military hospital. After that, the main patio was put to various uses such as the site of the Literary Society of Nezahualcoyotl. By the beginning of the 20th century, it was used as payment to architect Antonio Rivas Mercado, with his daughters Antonieta and Alicia inheriting it in 1927. The church became property of the state and was declared a national monument. The rest of the property was divided among several owners with some of the complex having office buildings constructed on it. The best known business to be on this site was the Smyrna Dancing Club, which operated in the mid 20th century.

In 1975, a group dedicated to the studies of Sor Juana petition President Luis Echeverría to expropriate the building in order to conserve it. Under presidential decree, the complex was excavated and explored between 1976 and 1982, involving anthropologists, archeologists, architects, historians and others with the purpose of restoration. Many of the finds are objects related to the daily lives of the nuns that used to live here such as tiles, fountains, drainage systems and water collectors as well as tombs. Today the university is in charge of the complex's conservation. It is considered a "Patrimonio de la Nación" (National Heritage Site) and is featured on the back of a 200 peso bill.

In the mid 2000s, the Catholic Church tried to reclaim the Church of San Jeronimo to return it to worship. However, the school resisted these efforts and eventually won in court. The university maintains the rights to the entire property as long as it remains an educational and cultural institution.

The educational institution
The Universidad del Claustro de Sor Juana was founded here in 1979, offering its first bachelors in "Human Sciences" (Ciencias Humanas). Today, the institution offers eight in Art, Audiovisual Communication, Study and Promotion of Culture, Philosophy, Gastronomy, Humanities, Creative Writing and Literature, and Psychology. It offers master's degrees in Mexico Colonial Culture and Food and Beverage Business Administration and certificates in Food and Beverage Business Administration and Theatrical Production. Approximately 75 to 80% of graduates find work in the fields they study. The most successful of these programs is gastronomy The life and work of Sor Juana forms the intellectual basis and the identity of the institution. The building's interior has been remodeled as a mix of colonial and modern constructions, with conservation efforts being continuous. The campus expanded in 2003, with the addition of nearby Regina campus, which was part of the colonial convent of the nuns of Regina Coeli. This campus contains Neoclassical constructions done by Manuel Tolsá for the Marquesa of Selva Nevada.

The library of the institution contains the Centro de Documentación Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz, which aims to become the most important repository of writings about the nun and her life. Many of the works here are from the beginning of the 20th century. The Center contains both books and periodicals about both the woman and her writings. The general library collection contains a large number of first editions, most of which were donated. In 2007, the Pier Paolo Pasolina Peace Center was inaugurated which "intends to reunite the individual memory with the collective one to find paths to peace." Many spaces in the complex are suited to showcase exhibitions of art and culture. The University houses the Museo de la Indumentaria Mexicana "Luis Márquez Romay" (The Luis Márquez Romay Museum of Mexican Attire). It displays an important collection of traditional Mexican attires, many of which were donated by Carmen Romano, who was First Lady of Mexico from 1976 to 1982. The Museum also hosts temporary exhibits such as the art exhibit "Ocho conjuros para sanar el alma" (Eight spells to heal the soul) as part of the 25th annual Festival de Mexico in the historic center of Mexico City. In 2007, there was an exhibition called "Monjas coronadas" (Crowned Nuns) which displayed artifacts related to the ritual of "marrying God" when nuns take their vows. It included the crowns which were placed on the nun's head, some quite large, during the colonial period. Concerts and art exhibits are showcased in the Former Church of San Jerónimo as well. One of these exhibits was that of a large touring sculpture called "Traición" (Betrayal). The school also has a collection of musical instruments including four antique pianos, donated and currently used for concerts.

San Jeronimo Street, which runs in front of the main facade, is pedestrian only and is now considered to be a plaza. It is being remodeled to house a "cultural corridor" as part of the university's outreach program to the community that will extend to the College of Vizcainas. The school as a number of other outreach programs, such as literacy education to the estimated 10,000 people in the city center who cannot read or write at a sufficient level. There are also free psychological counseling programs for domestic violence and drug addiction as well. The university says these actions are part of its efforts to support the revitalization of the historic center

According to a survey called "Las Mejores Universidades 2009" (The Best Universities 2009) sponsored by the newspaper Reforma, students at Sor Juana are the largest and pickiest coffee drinkers in Mexico City. One reason for this is that the campus, located in the historic center, is surrounded by a number of gourmet cafes, which attract customers by offering cultural events such as films and poetry readings.

Each year University students construct a monumental "ofrenda" or altar to the dead for Day of the Dead festivities in late October and early November. It is created with the collaboration of ex-students, teachers, artists and neighbors in the historic center of Mexico City. In 2007, the theme of the altar was "Sor Juana and time." It included an hourglass in the center and two thousand meters of cempasúchil garlands. A secondary altar in the Zapotec style was erected in honor of Frida Kahlo. Each year, the monumental altar receives more visits by the public and more neighbors are willing to participate according to the school's dean. This tradition has been annually recreated for over two decades. The Chorus of the Universidad del Claustro de Sor Juana has performed under guest directors such as Rita Guerrero. The chorus specializes in works that are no longer frequently performed, such as the Libre Vermell de Montserrat and El Canto de la Siliba. It is made up of students from various majors and was formed in 2005.

A number of the university's activities are held in partnership with other academic and cultural institutions. The university has a partnership program with UNAM for activities related to teaching, research, community outreach and culture, especially with regards to technical and technological issues. It will allow students of both institutions to attend classes in both places and the two will sponsor a number of joint academic events.

Along with the Fundación del Centro Histórico (Historic Center Foundation), the University has published a guide to restaurants, taco stands, cantinas and other eateries located in the oldest neighborhoods of Mexico City. The guide is called "Guia para Comer Bien en el Centro Historico" (Guide to Eating Well in the Historic Center).

The school is involved with the organization with sponsors the annual "Festival de México" in the historic center to hold conferences and a contest related to the history of cooking in Mexico called Concursos Historias y Sabores de México and Menú de Bicentenario. The objective is to recognize and conserves Mexican gastronomic traditions through research in preparation of the Bicentennial of Mexico's independence in 2010. Participants not only must prepare a representative dish, but also document the dish's history and significance. Another aspect of this event is to work with restaurants in the historic center to prepare special menus for the 2010 Festival de México. The festival ticket would include one dinner from one of these menus

Outside of Mexico City, the university organized a "poetry slam" event as part of the 23rd Feria Internacional de Libro in Guadalajara in 2009. The participants performed original works which were then rated by a panel of poets and rappers. The event was titled "A ritmo de poesía" (To the beat of poetry). The reason the school sponsored the event was to show that poetry is available to all.

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Charpy impact test

In materials science, the Charpy impact test, also known as the Charpy V-notch test, is a standardized high strain rate test which determines the amount of energy absorbed by a material during fracture. Absorbed energy is a measure of the material's notch toughness. It is widely used in industry, since it is easy to prepare and conduct and results can be obtained quickly and cheaply. A disadvantage is that some results are only comparative. The test was pivotal in understanding the fracture problems of ships during World War II.

The test was developed around 1900 by S. B. Russell (1898, American) and Georges Charpy (1901, French). The test became known as the Charpy test in the early 1900s due to the technical contributions and standardization efforts by Charpy.

History
In 1896, S. B. Russell introduced the idea of residual fracture energy and devised a pendulum fracture test. Russell's initial tests measured un-notched samples. In 1897, Frémont introduced a test to measure the same phenomenon using a spring-loaded machine. In 1901, Georges Charpy proposed a standardized method improving Russell's by introducing a redesigned pendulum and notched sample, giving precise specifications.

Definition

The apparatus consists of a pendulum of known mass and length that is dropped from a known height to impact a notched specimen of material. The energy transferred to the material can be inferred by comparing the difference in the height of the hammer before and after the fracture (energy absorbed by the fracture event).

The notch in the sample affects the results of the impact test, thus it is necessary for the notch to be of regular dimensions and geometry. The size of the sample can also affect results, since the dimensions determine whether or not the material is in plane strain. This difference can greatly affect the conclusions made.

The Standard methods for Notched Bar Impact Testing of Metallic Materials can be found in ASTM E23, ISO 148-1 or EN 10045-1 (retired and replaced with ISO 148-1), where all the aspects of the test and equipment used are described in detail.

Quantitative results
The quantitative result of the impact tests the energy needed to fracture a material and can be used to measure the toughness of the material. There is a connection to the yield strength but it cannot be expressed by a standard formula. Also, the strain rate may be studied and analyzed for its effect on fracture.

The ductile-brittle transition temperature (DBTT) may be derived from the temperature where the energy needed to fracture the material drastically changes. However, in practice there is no sharp transition and it is difficult to obtain a precise transition temperature (it is really a transition region). An exact DBTT may be empirically derived in many ways: a specific absorbed energy, change in aspect of fracture (such as 50% of the area is cleavage), etc.

Qualitative results
The qualitative results of the impact test can be used to determine the ductility of a material. If the material breaks on a flat plane, the fracture was brittle, and if the material breaks with jagged edges or shear lips, then the fracture was ductile. Usually, a material does not break in just one way or the other and thus comparing the jagged to flat surface areas of the fracture will give an estimate of the percentage of ductile and brittle fracture.

Sample sizes
According to ASTM A370, the standard specimen size for Charpy impact testing is 10 mm × 10 mm × 55 mm. Subsize specimen sizes are: 10 mm × 7.5 mm × 55 mm, 10 mm × 6.7 mm × 55 mm, 10 mm × 5 mm × 55 mm, 10 mm × 3.3 mm × 55 mm, 10 mm × 2.5 mm × 55 mm. Details of specimens as per ASTM A370 (Standard Test Method and Definitions for Mechanical Testing of Steel Products).

According to EN 10045-1 (retired and replaced with ISO 148), standard specimen sizes are 10 mm × 10 mm × 55 mm. Subsize specimens are: 10 mm × 7.5 mm × 55 mm and 10 mm × 5 mm × 55 mm.

According to ISO 148, standard specimen sizes are 10 mm × 10 mm × 55 mm. Subsize specimens are: 10 mm × 7.5 mm × 55 mm, 10 mm × 5 mm × 55 mm and 10 mm × 2.5 mm × 55 mm.

According to MPIF Standard 40, the standard unnotched specimen size is 10 mm (±0.125 mm) x 10 mm (±0.125 mm) x 55 mm (±2.5 mm).

Impact test results on low- and high-strength materials
The impact energy of low-strength metals that do not show a change of fracture mode with temperature, is usually high and insensitive to temperature. For these reasons, impact tests are not widely used for assessing the fracture-resistance of low-strength materials whose fracture modes remain unchanged with temperature. Impact tests typically show a ductile-brittle transition for high-strength materials that do exhibit change in fracture mode with temperature such as body-centered cubic (BCC) transition metals. Impact tests on natural materials (can be considered as low-strength), such as wood, are used to study the material toughness and are subjected to a number of issues that include the interaction between the pendulum and a specimen as well as higher modes of vibration and multiple contacts between pendulum tup and the specimen.

Generally, high-strength materials have low impact energies which attest to the fact that fractures easily initiate and propagate in high-strength materials. The impact energies of high-strength materials other than steels or BCC transition metals are usually insensitive to temperature. High-strength BCC steels display a wider variation of impact energy than high-strength metal that do not have a BCC structure because steels undergo microscopic ductile-brittle transition. Regardless, the maximum impact energy of high-strength steels is still low due to their brittleness.

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Eddy-current testing

Eddy-current testing (also commonly seen as eddy current testing and ECT) is one of many electromagnetic testing methods used in nondestructive testing (NDT) making use of electromagnetic induction to detect and characterize surface and sub-surface flaws in conductive materials.

History
Eddy current testing (ECT) as a technique for testing finds its roots in electromagnetism. Eddy currents were first observed by François Arago in 1824, but French physicist Léon Foucault is credited with discovering them in 1855. ECT began largely as a result of the English scientist Michael Faraday's discovery of electromagnetic induction in 1831. Faraday discovered that when there is a closed path through which current can circulate and a time-varying magnetic field passes through a conductor (or vice versa), an electric current flows through this conductor.

In 1879, another English-born scientist, David Edward Hughes, demonstrated how the properties of a coil change when placed in contact with metals of different conductivity and permeability, which was applied to metallurgical sorting tests.

Much of the development of ECT as a nondestructive testing technique for industrial applications was carried out during World War II in Germany. Professor Friedrich Förster while working for the Kaiser-Wilhelm Institute (now the Kaiser Wilhelm Society) adapted eddy current technology to industrial use, developing instruments measuring conductivity and sorting mixed ferrous components. After the war, in 1948, Förster founded a company, now called the Foerster Group where he made great strides in developing practical ECT instruments and marketing them.

Eddy current testing is now a widely used and well understood inspection technique for flaw detection, as well as thickness and conductivity measurements.

Frost & Sullivan analysis in the global NDT equipment market in 2012 estimated the magnetic and electromagnetic NDT equipment market at $220 million, which includes conventional eddy current, magnetic particle inspection, eddy current array, and remote-field testing. This market is projected to grow at 7.5% compounded annual growth rate to approximately $315 million by 2016.

ECT principle
In its most basic form — the single-element ECT probe — a coil of conductive wire is excited with an alternating electric current. This wire coil produces an alternating magnetic field around itself. The magnetic field oscillates at the same frequency as the current running through the coil. When the coil approaches a conductive material, currents opposite to the ones in the coil are induced in the material — eddy currents.

Variations in the electrical conductivity and magnetic permeability of the test object, and the presence of defects causes a change in eddy current and a corresponding change in phase and amplitude that can be detected by measuring the impedance changes in the coil, which is a telltale sign of the presence of defects. This is the basis of standard (pancake coil) ECT. NDT kits can be used in the eddy current testing process.

ECT has a very wide range of applications. Since ECT is electrical in nature, it is limited to conductive material. There are also physical limits to generating eddy currents and depth of penetration (skin depth).

Applications
The two major applications of eddy current testing are surface inspection and tubing inspections. Surface inspection is used extensively in the aerospace industry, but also in the petrochemical industry. The technique is very sensitive and can detect tight cracks. Surface inspection can be performed both on ferromagnetic and non-ferromagnetic materials.

Tubing inspection is generally limited to non-ferromagnetic tubing and is known as conventional eddy current testing. Conventional ECT is used for inspecting steam generator tubing in nuclear plants and heat exchangers tubing in power and petrochemical industries. The technique is very sensitive to detect and size pits. Wall loss or corrosion can be detected but sizing is not accurate.

A variation of conventional ECT for partially magnetic materials is full saturation ECT. In this technique, permeability variations are suppressed by applying a magnetic field. The saturation probes contain conventional eddy current coils and magnets. This inspection is used on partially ferromagnetic materials such as nickel alloys, duplex alloys, and thin-ferromagnetic materials such as ferritic chromium molybdenum stainless steel. The application of a saturation eddy current technique depends on the permeability of the material, tube thickness, and diameter.

A method used for carbon steel tubing is remote field eddy current testing. This method is sensitive to general wall loss and not sensitive to small pits and cracks.

ECT on surfaces
When it comes to surface applications, the performance of any given inspection technique depends greatly on the specific conditions — mostly the types of materials and defects, but also surface conditions, etc. However, in most situations, the following are true:

 * Effective on coatings/paint: yes
 * Computerized record keeping: partial
 * 3D/Advanced imaging: none
 * User dependence: high
 * Speed: low
 * Post-inspection analysis: none
 * Requires chemicals/consumables: no

Other applications
ECT is also useful in making electrical conductivity and coating thickness measurements, among others.

Other eddy current testing techniques
To circumvent some of the shortcomings of conventional ECT, other eddy current testing techniques were developed with various successes.

Eddy current array
Eddy current array (ECA) and conventional ECT share the same basic working principles. ECA technology provides the ability to electronically drive an array of coils ( multiple coils) arranged in specific pattern called a topology that generates a sensitivity profile suited to the target defects. Data acquisition is achieved by multiplexing the coils in a special pattern to avoid mutual inductance between the individual coils. The benefits of ECA are:

 * Faster inspections
 * Wider coverage
 * Less operator dependence — array probes yield more consistent results compared to manual raster scans
 * Better detection capabilities
 * Easier analysis because of simpler scan patterns
 * Improved positioning and sizing because of encoded data
 * Array probes can easily be designed to be flexible or shaped to specifications, making hard-to-reach areas easier to inspect

ECA technology provides a remarkably powerful tool and saves significant time during inspections. ECA inspection in carbon steel welds is regulated by ASTM standard E3052.

Lorentz force eddy current testing
A different, albeit physically closely related challenge is the detection of deeply lying flaws and inhomogeneities in electrically conducting solid materials.

In the traditional version of eddy current testing an alternating (AC) magnetic field is used to induce eddy currents inside the material to be investigated. If the material contains a crack or flaw which make the spatial distribution of the electrical conductivity nonuniform, the path of the eddy currents is perturbed and the impedance of the coil which generates the AC magnetic field is modified. By measuring the impedance of this coil, a crack can hence be detected. Since the eddy currents are generated by an AC magnetic field, their penetration into the subsurface region of the material is limited by the skin effect. The applicability of the traditional version of eddy current testing is therefore limited to the analysis of the immediate vicinity of the surface of a material, usually of the order of one millimeter. Attempts to overcome this fundamental limitation using low frequency coils and superconducting magnetic field sensors have not led to widespread applications.

A recent technique, referred to as Lorentz force eddy current testing (LET), exploits the advantages of applying DC magnetic fields and relative motion providing deep and relatively fast testing of electrically conducting materials. In principle, LET represents a modification of the traditional eddy current testing from which it differs in two aspects, namely (i) how eddy currents are induced and (ii) how their perturbation is detected. In LET eddy currents are generated by providing the relative motion between the conductor under test and a permanent magnet(see figure). If the magnet is passing by a defect, the Lorentz force acting on it shows a distortion whose detection is the key for the LET working principle. If the object is free of defects, the resulting Lorentz force remains constant.

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Bjorn's Helper Browse: All Quest | Kol Recipies | Items | How To | Helpful Things

 News October 15 The Typical Tavern quest has been redone to make it more interesting, and to make the rewards a little better. If you were in the middle of the quest, you'll have to start over. It just... had to be done. October 11 The Barrel Full of Barrels has been revamped to make it more interesting and more useful.

Also, Custom Avatar Forms are once again available in Mr. Store. From now on, though, we're going to be enforcing the guidelines on them very, very strictly. The reason we got so far behind before is that we were indulging some pretty ludicrous requests, and that has to stop for everybody else's sake. Nothing else interesting happened today. -cough-

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Talk:Gizmo5

standard phone
I would like to see something about how Gizmo is a SIP using standard phone.. It is. You can call to the new SIP enabled gnomemeeting for instance from it. There has been some instructions around.. It's important with Gizmo. They provide their "Gizmo accounts" and stuff, but they do not object bypassing their stuff at all actually.
 * Addressed by "Since Gizmo5 is based on the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP), it can inter-operate with other SIP-based networks directly..." --IReceivedDeathThreats (talk) 15:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Gizmo5 mobile
This has a different feature set; should have a section on this page. e.g. Do both the destop and mobile app support SIP (i.e. phone calls at data rates from a cellphone)? --IReceivedDeathThreats (talk) 15:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Iphox
Take a look at iphox.com. The site is almost an exact clone of Gizmo Project]. This leads me to believe that they're in the process of changing their name/brand (but I can't write speculation on the main article). -    nath  a  nrdotcom  ( T •  C  • W) 19:17, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Look: IPhox
 * --Liebeskind 20:07, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Right, thanks. — [[Image:Flag_of_Ottawa%2C_Ontario.svg|20px]] [[Image:Flag of Ontario.svg|20px]] [[Image:Flag of Canada.svg|20px]] nathanrdotco m (Got something to say? Say it.) 04:56, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Security Features?
Could someone please add a section briefly discussing the security of Gizmo? Are calls encrypted? What algorithms do they use? etc.

Peer-to-peer?
What is the justification for describing Gizmo Project as a "peer-to-peer VoIP network"? While the voice traffic is transmitted directly between peers, it is certainly not a pure peer-to-peer network since the SIP signaling goes through a central server at company's premises. Unless there are objections, I feel inclined to change the article to reflect this.--Teemuk 07:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that Gizmo is not a pure peer to peer, those are quite rare. Skype is called p2p, but it still needs central servers to work.    I don't know if a totally decentralized communications program exists (yet).  It isn't a pure client/server model either like Festoon, where all the traffic flows through a central server. Rearden9 13:28, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Spin offs
Does anyone know anything about the spin off www.gizmocall.com and gizmosms.com and any details about them? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.92.246.41 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Here are the initial press releases announcing Gizmo Call and Gizmo SMS. I'm sure someone will do some more research on it. Dancter 19:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Trouble with Call-in/Virtual Numbers?
Does anybody have articles featuring Gizmo's virtual numbers and customer service at hand? Re: Gizmo Project Bug Reports []

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Ted Dabney

Samuel Frederick "Ted" Dabney Jr. (May 2, 1937 – May 26, 2018) was an American electrical engineer, and the co-founder, alongside Nolan Bushnell, of Atari, Inc. He is recognized as developing the basics of video circuitry principles that were used for Computer Space and later Pong, one of the first and most successful arcade games.

Education and early career
Dabney was born in San Francisco, California, to Irma and Samuel Frederick Dabney. His parents divorced while he was young and subsequently raised by his father. One of several schools that he attended was John A. O'Connell High School of Technology, where he studied trade drafting, which led to him getting a job with the California Department of Transportation while still a teenager. He eventually got his high school diploma from San Mateo High School; Dabney credited a math teacher named Walker there that got him interested in the electronics and computing areas. He then had a summer position with a local surveyor company, but when the work dried up by the winter, he was let go, and he enlisted in the United States Marine Corps. Within his three years of the Corps he took courses on electronics, giving him an interest in the area. He was able to leave the Corps as he had been admitted into San Francisco State University, but as he did not have the funds to support his education, he instead took a job with Bank of America based on his electronics experience, where he kept the Electronic Recording Machine, Accounting operational.

Career in the computer industry
Dabney left Bank of America after a year, and on recommendation of John Herbert, a colleague he worked with, was hired by Hewlett-Packard. Within a few weeks, Herbert had moved on to Ampex and convinced Dabney to interview there. Dabney joined Ampex in 1961, working in their military products section. This work led to him becoming involved in early video imagery products within Ampex, including vidicon systems. By around 1969 Ampex had also hired Nolan Bushnell, who worked alongside Dabney and where they became friends. Bushnell, prior to joining Ampex, had come up with the idea of making a carnival-like pizza place with animatronics and games, and discussed this idea with Dabney. After seeing a computer system at the Stanford Artificial Intelligence Laboratory, the two came up with the concept of using a smaller computer or video systems, adding coin slots, and allowing people to pay to play games on this.

Dabney and Bushnell jointly created a partnership called Syzygy (named after astronomy term representing an alignment of celestial bodies) in 1971. When they decided to incorporate, they discovered another company had that name and therefore established their corporation under the name Atari, Inc., based on the Go term equivalent to chess's "check", as both had been avid fans of the game. Their first product was Computer Space, inspired by having seen Spacewar! running at various computer laboratories. Dabney created a motion system using a video circuit made up of cheap analog and digital components of a standard television set rather than acquire an expensive computer, while Bushnell designed its cabinet and worked with Nutting Associates to manufacture the game at scale. Bushnell used this to convince Al Alcorn, another Ampex employee, to leave and join Atari to help program more of these games. Under Bushnell's direction, Alcorn used Dabney's video circuit concept to create the programming for Atari's next game, Pong. Dabney constructed the coin slot mechanism portion of the cabinet. Once their one-off version proved successful, they ramped up production for scale, with Dabney overseeing the manufacturing process. Pong became the first successful arcade video game.

As Pong became successful, Dabney felt overshadowed by both Bushnell and Alcorn. He learned that Bushnell had patented his video circuit idea without including Dabney on the patent. Bushnell also had assigned Dabney a lower-level position in Atari and did not include him in high-level meetings. Around March 1973, Dabney left the company over this falling out, selling his portion of the company's ownership for US$250,000. Dabney did continue to help Bushnell with starting his Pizza Time Theater (the predecessor of Chuck E. Cheese's) and Catalyst Technologies as an employee, being wary of Bushnell's previous treatment of him. Alongside these, he worked for several companies, including Raytheon and Fujitsu, and at other times working on his own projects for his own video game company Syzygy Game Company, where he made games that Bushnell used for his Pizza Time Theaters, including an arcade quiz game based on science fiction writer Isaac Asimov. Dabney also helped with the automated ticket number system used by the restaurants. When Pizza Time Theater went under, and Bushnell could not pay Dabney what he owed him, Dabney opted to close down Syzygy, and ended his friendship with Bushnell. Dabney went to work at Teledyne for about ten years before deciding to leave the industry.

Later life and death
Dabney married twice. First with Joan Wahrmund, with whom he had two daughters, later with Carolyn, who he predeceased.

After leaving the computer industry, Ted and Carolyn Dabney managed a grocery store and later a deli in Crescent Mills, California. Around 2006, they moved from California to a property he owned near Okanogan National Forest in Washington. The Dabneys later returned to California, taking up residence in Clearlake, a city north of San Francisco. Their house was completely destroyed in the Clayton Fire in August 2016. A GoFundMe account was set up to help the Dabneys resettle, but it was cancelled after Dabney confirmed that he didn't need it.

After his departure from Atari, Dabney did not receive much publicity, and until 2009, his contributions towards Atari and the early days of video games were generally forgotten. Dabney reappeared in 2009, following an announcement made by Paramount Pictures the previous year that they were going to make a biographical film based on Nolan Bushnell, but had never approached Dabney for any input. Dabney gave an interview with video game historian Leonard Herman in Edge that described his contributions towards Atari, and acknowledged that "I'm sure [Bushnell] had no desire to even acknowledge that I ever existed" and "He wouldn't give me any credit even while I was still there". He was the subject of an oral history discussion with the Computer History Museum in July 2012.

The Dabneys lost their Lake County home in the 2016 Clayton Fire, relocating to nearby Clearlake. Dabney was diagnosed with esophageal cancer in late 2017, and opted against treatment after being told he had eight months to live.

In March 2018, members of the Smithsonian Institution interviewed Dabney for an oral history from his point of view, which ran for eight hours at his home in California.

He died on May 26, 2018, in his Clearlake home from complications from the cancer.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Julian Stockdale

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The result of the debate was Delete. --Doc (?) 08:28, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Julian Stockdale
Looks like an ad about an unnotable person Jason McHuff 22:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sounds like he's not published yet (soon to be published). Pburka 00:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as nn/vanity. Apparently unpublished poet; 2 Google hits; it names his book but it's not for sale at Amazon or anywhere else, even his own web site. MCB 00:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as per MCB--nixie 06:25, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 October 4

Category:Moldovan history to Category:History of Moldova

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The result of the debate was Speedy rename per speedy #4 naming conventions. ∞ Who ? ¿ ? 20:06, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Non-standard category name. Rename category:History of Moldova. CalJW 14:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Rename. -- Reinyday, 14:53, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename. -- BD2412  talk 18:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename per standard. (SEWilco 02:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC))
 * Speedy per new speedy-rule #4. -Splash talk 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Topics relating to transitioning to Category:Gender transitioning

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 15:38, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I am trying to get the phrase "topics related to" out of the name, and make it more clear to readers what it is about. Please see the previous CFR, which was closed with no consensus. Please note that the category page currently describes the category as being for Articles relating to transitioning of transsexual people. -- Reinyday, 14:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Rename per nom. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 17:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * There were several servicable suggestions made during the prior CfR, but too many good ideas made for no clear consensus. I concur with Reinyday that the current proposal is both best, and showed widest support in prior CfR.  Note that I changed the wording of the category description slightly to match the topics included: that is, I allowed it to include general transgender issues, not only (medical) transexualism. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters

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Category:Peoples of Greece to Category:Ethnic groups of Greece

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The result of the debate was merge --Kbdank71 15:33, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Non-standard category. Merge into standard category:Ethnic groups of Greece. CalJW 12:54, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge to standard category. -- Reinyday, 11:52, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge per standard. (SEWilco 02:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC))

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Category:Scientific Research in Greece to Category:Science and technology in Greece

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 15:26, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Non-standard category containing one article. Rename to standard category:Science and technology in Greece. I will add whatever other relevant articles there are. CalJW 11:50, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename. -- Reinyday, 14:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename per standard. (SEWilco 02:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC))
 * Rename does seem sensible here, though I wonder if we are losing granularity in historical articles. Science and technology weren't always as nearly-the-same as they are today. -Splash talk 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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category:Ukrainian government to category:Government of Ukraine

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The result of the debate was Speedy merge per rule #4. ∞ Who ? ¿ ? 20:09, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I just created the standard form category:Government of Ukraine, but then I discovered that this one already existed. So let's merge category:Ukrainian government into category:Government of Ukraine. CalJW 10:06, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename per standard. (SEWilco 02:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC))
 * Speedy per new speedy-rule #4. -Splash talk 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Institutions 2

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The result of the debate was Category already slotted for merge/deletion in previous Cfd. ∞ Who ? ¿ ? 18:47, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I am sorry to remoninate this category, since it barely ended its merger voting. User:Instantnood started adding social institutions without waiting the implementation of the previous decision.

Not only it will be a source of confusion (suppose someone will use a script to merge the castegory and thusly move category:Core issues in ethics into "Organizarions")...

A more serious objection is it is bad, I say BAD idea to use ambiguous words as category titles. There is so much confusion with categorization. This instanhood's instant decision contributes to it.

Not to say that his understanding of the word "institution" is disputable. For example, I reverted his classification of Category:Customary categories of people into Category:Institutions. mikka (t) 07:48, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

My suggestion is to "cease and desist" for this category, i.e., delete after merging. mikka (t) 07:50, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * FYI, all contents in the hierarchy that should be moved to the organisations counterpart, including category:institutions and category:institutions by country, except those within the institutions in Foo categories (i.e. subcategories of category:institutions by country), are already relocated appropriately. Therefore nothing else has to be moved, and the things to decide in this nomination would be i) whether categories for institutions (check the article for its definitions) are necessary, if yes, ii) whether there is a better word that would be less confusing. — Instantnood 08:51, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * What did Charitable trust and some others do in this category then? It is an organization, pre and simple (I recategorized it a sec ago). mikka (t) 19:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete when the rename/merge is done. This decision has only just been taken by a large majority so it is disruptive to attempt overturn it. The category system is a navigation tool for the average user. Attempting to create categories based on academic definitions of everyday English words is just a recipe for confusion. CalJW 09:55, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * In fact the deletion should just proceed as it would have done if instanthood hadn't taken action. She didn't even let the bot have time to do its work. This just isn't on. It's no different from any other recreation of a category which has just been voted for deletion by someone who disagrees with the decision. If instanthood wants a new category, s(he) should come up with the new name and create it, not ask others to do the work. But I think it is extremely unlikely that any new category as fundamental as she seems to want is required. Surely the politics/social sciences area has sufficient basic categories already. We should not have overlapping category systems based on personal interpretations any more than we need point of view forks of articles. The meaning of "institution" can be discussed in the article, and that is probably all that is required. We don't explode every major article into a category. CalJW 10:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * From what I read from the institution article, and the edit history of the article and the category, it looks like the category was created for the definition mentioned in that article. It was at some point that people didn't realise the purpose of the category, and started categorising organisations to that category and its children categories. This was not addressed in the previous CFM until I talked about it.. and there was just a few replies. I would consider the previous discussion a not well-informed one, and would like to seek opinion from the community on better alternatives, if the word "institutions" as the name of the category is deemed confusing and inappropriate. — Instantnood 15:25, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * You still don't undertsnad the problem and the objections posted here. First of all you better seek an opinion of the community on what is supposed to be in this category, and only then look for a name, not vice versa: pick a word then pump the list. As I see from your intentions, you may be looking for "category:Social institutions", which may be further subdivided in category:Informal institutions (ethics, justice) category:Formalized institutions (marriage, law, government). Since this is a pretty high-level category, any additions into it must be discussed at its Category talk:Social institutions page. mikka (t) 19:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * See also Wikipedia talk:Categories for deletion. — Instantnood 18:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Closing note the purpose of this Cfd was for deletion. The previous Cfd was to merge/delete, this is a duplicate Cfd. Cfd closings are currently backed up, which is the only reason this category still exists. Please continue the discussion at the Wikipedia_talk:Categories_for_deletion page. ∞ Who ? ¿ ?  18:47, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Weird Al Yankovic songs to Category:"Weird Al" Yankovic songs

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 15:24, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Consistency in naming -- the main article on "Weird Al" Yankovic is titled with the quotes, as is the parent category. This is the orthography preferred by the artist. -- Tyler 05:57, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: A previous discussion of the quotes issue resulted in no consensus. -- Reinyday, 14:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * KEEP as is, it's easier to navigate this way. 132.205.45.148 17:39, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I keep seeing this and I don't understand it... why is it easier to navigate? It's not like the category is going to be alphabetized under the quote character or anything. -- Tyler 17:50, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Rename to match the article. -Splash talk 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Weird Al Yankovic albums to Category:"Weird Al" Yankovic albums

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The result of the debate was merge --Kbdank71 15:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

(proposed merge, although the destination category is currently empty) Consistency in naming -- the main article on "Weird Al" Yankovic is titled with the quotes, as is the parent category. This is the orthography preferred by the artist. -- Tyler 05:57, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment: A previous discussion of the quotes issue resulted in no consensus. -- Reinyday, 14:40, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * KEEP as is, it's easier to navigate this way. 132.205.45.148 17:40, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename to match the article. -Splash talk 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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Category:HKU to Category:University of Hong Kong

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 15:00, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Categories should be spelt in full where possible to avoid possible confusions in future. Rename as Category:University of Hong Kong.--Huaiwei 03:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename CalJW 06:34, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename. -- Reinyday, 20:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename per standard. (SEWilco 02:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC))
 * Rename away from abbreviations. -Splash talk 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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Golf by country

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The result of the debate was keep --Kbdank71 14:58, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

There is no convention for national golf categories yet, and the 12 categories are split 50:50 between "X golf" and "Golf in X". However "sports by country", "ice hockey by country", "cricket by country" and rugby all use "X [name of sport]" as do 14 out of 15 basketball categories and the vast majority of football/soccer by country categories. Therefore I suggest we standardise the golf categories on the same lines: Rename all CalJW 02:13, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * category:Golf in Australia --> category:Australian golf
 * category:Golf in Germany --> category:German golf
 * category:Golf in India --> category:Indian golf
 * category:Golf in South Africa --> category:South African golf
 * category:Golf in Spain --> category:Spanish golf
 * category:Golf in the United States --> category:American golf
 * If this goes through there are other anomalies to sort out, but for sports which only have a handful of categories, such as tennis, which has four categories, split 50:50 on the same basis as golf. CalJW 02:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment - Using the word "American" to mean "of the United States" was the original issue which led to the by-country conventions section of Naming conventions (categories). The original issue was not resolved (the claim is that using "American" to refer exclusively to the United States is offensive to residents of other countries in the North and South American continents).  A signficant fraction of the editors involved in this discussion favored renaming all categories using a "Nationality x" form, even the highly numerous profession by nationality ones, to "x in/of/from country" form to avoid this issue as well as the issue of other countries that don't have an obvious nationality adjective (e.g. Trinidad and Tobago). -- Rick Block (talk) 03:52, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't think the objection is appropriate as the normal English usage of "American" is clear. Consistency is desirable, so I still think we should go ahead with this.CalJW 06:33, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename - The American versus United States debate I don't think will be concluded satisfactorily sometime soon. However I think in sport there is a clear precedent with American football that the term can be used.  It's also worth pointing out that although a significant fraction opposed nationality usage, the policy agreed at Naming conventions (categories) seems to support nationality usage for people, and notes that further discussion is, at the least, to follow.  Why not let this be the further debate for sports? Hiding  talk 09:28, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I think that all the other sport categories should be renamed to "Sport in Country" to be like these (and I think even if this rename goes through, someone will nominate it for naming back sometime soon).  Almost all other categories are named as "Thing in/of/from Country", except when refering to people. -- Reinyday, 14:47, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. I agree with Reinyday. "Golf in Fooland" sounds much better than "Fooish golf". It's true that for the other sports "Fooish cricket/rugby/ice hockey/basketweaving" does seem to predominate, but [perceived personal attack removed] nevertheless I think it's important to be able to distinguish between American football and "Football (whichever meaning) in the United States", or for that matter between Canadian football and "Football (again whichever meaning) in Canada". --Angr/undefined 16:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That is a clearcut personal attack. Please withdraw it. CalJW 09:09, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Firstly, I agree that Golf in Fooland sounds better than Fooish golf.  But also, what about situations where the Fooish bar precedent would give us things like "American Canadian football" or "Canadian American football"? -The Tom 22:57, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment Okay, do it the other way round, but please do the nominations for the other sports in the near future. CalJW 09:09, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Reverse rename to standard "X in country" name pattern. (SEWilco 02:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC))
 * Oppose — "Gold of Fooland" sounds much better, and reverse merge any that need it. -Splash talk 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Prefer "Golf in Fooland". siafu 03:35, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Government in Georgia (country) to Category:Government of Georgia (country)

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The result of the debate was Speedy rename per speedy-rule #4 see Naming conventions. ∞ Who ? ¿ ? 20:02, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I somehow missed this one before. Rename to standard form Category:Government of Georgia (country). CalJW 01:51, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename Hiding talk 09:32, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename per standard. (SEWilco 02:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC))
 * Speedy per new speedy-rule #4. -Splash talk 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

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category:London Docklands

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The result of the debate was delete --Kbdank71 14:51, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Following some recent deletions this is now the only London area category which is not for one of the official local government subdivisions of the city. There was a formal definition for this area in the days of the London Docklands Development Corporation, but that only existed from 1981 to 1998 and it was a special purpose economic agency, not a local government area. This is essentially an exploded article and it becomes less relevant all the time as redevelopment in East London increasingly focuses on the Lower Lea Valley and the Thames Gateway. It is also incomplete and has barely expanded in months. There are two main two sub-categorisation sytems for London, by subject area, and by borough. There is a good deal of overlap between this category and Category:London infrastructure. Delete CalJW 01:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

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Category:Soccer players in the U.S. by club

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 14:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Should be Category:Soccer players in the United States by club in line with policy against abbreviations. (Note that the U.S./American issue is not relevant as the players aren't all American) Rename CalJW 01:08, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename Hiding talk 09:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename per standard. (SEWilco 02:26, 6 October 2005 (UTC))

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Category:Irridentism to Category:Irredentism

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 14:38, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Bad name, should be renamed. Adam78 00:51, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree: Spelling should match article Irredentism. (SEWilco 18:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC))
 * Speedy for spelling. siafu 03:36, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

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Politics of the states of the United States

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The result of the debate was rename as nominated --Kbdank71 14:25, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Like their Canadian counterparts these do not follow the standard "of" format for political categories, so they should all be renamed. Fortunately only 14 have been created so far, or at least only that many are listed in Category:Politics of the U.S. by state Rename all CalJW 00:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * category:Hawaii politics --> category:Politics of Hawaii
 * category:Illinois politics --> category:Politics of Illinois
 * category:Iowa politics --> category:Politics of Iowa
 * category:Minnesota politics --> category:Politics of Minnesota
 * category:Mississippi politics --> category:Politics of Mississippi
 * category:Montana politics --> category:Politics of Montana
 * category:New Hampshire politics --> category:Politics of New Hampshire
 * category:New Jersey politics --> category:Politics of New Jersey
 * Category:New York politics --> category:Politics of New York
 * category:North Dakota politics --> category:Politics of North Dakota
 * category:Ohio politics --> category:Politics of Ohio
 * category:Pennsylvania politics --> category:Politics of Pennsylvania
 * category:Texas politics --> category:Politics of Texas
 * category:Virginia politics --> category:Politics of Virginia
 * Oppose, common usage appears to support these names, see for instance googles for "Pennsylvania politics" vs. "Politics of Pennsylvania". Christopher Parham (talk) 04:55, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * The same would probably apply to the national categories, but we have chosen a preferred format and it would be good to see it used consistently. It is no less clear. CalJW 06:36, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename Hiding talk 09:31, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename for Wikonsistancy. -- BD2412 talk 18:13, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename for consistency. (SEWilco 00:41, 6 October 2005 (UTC))
 * Oppose for consistency and futility. Changing this would make it more inconsistent with the naming tendency for other state subcategories that do not involve discrete things located within the state.  See for example Category:Illinois culture, Category:Illinois geography, Category:Illinois history, Category:Illinois media (and these are not exceptions, as the uniform contents of Category:United States media by state, Category:U.S. state histories, Category:United States geography by state, etc. illustrate).  What is gained by requiring subnational subcategories to follow the national naming trend?  Aside from unnecessary work, of course.  Postdlf 05:29, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Global consistency, and certainty about what names should be used for future categories created for other countries. CalJW 12:10, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Speedy all. This is close enough to "politics of country" defined as a speedy in Naming conventions (categories). -Splash talk 02:41, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename all and also rename the other categories by state. Susvolans ⇔ 11:26, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Strongly oppose. Not usage, not concise, no benefit. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds; Wikipedia, however, is inconsistent. Septentrionalis 01:50, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * That is personal abuse, which is not persuasive, and does not promote your inference of intellectual superiority.
 * Rename all as per Susvolans Bhoeble 13:03, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Rename all. No argument. siafu 03:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

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Guide to deletion


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User:Martin.Budden/Monarchs

Tasks

 * 1) Come up with idea for Henry VII of England onwards (currently just have picture) and discuss in Biography project.
 * 2) finish conversion to infoboxes
 * 3) come up with proposal for use of King of England in opening paragraph and discuss
 * 4) templates for years eg 1066, and decades, already one for centuries

see also WikiProject Biography WikiProject History

List of monarchs in the British Isles

Templates
May need some minor formatting improvements.

Template:Monarch Basic Used for early English monarchs, so they can be templated in their curent style. Once all templated may change to Infobox Monarch Basic, if desired

Template:Monarch Basic no image as above, but when no image is available

Template:Infobox Monarch Basic Infobox style of Monarch Basic

Template:Infobox Monarch As Infobox Monarch Basic, but with more paremeters (currently most commonly used), not quite compatible with Infobox Monarch Basic, but I have a plan to make it so without breaking anything.

Temporary storage of template text here:

 * - style="text-align: center;"

Table style, no template
earlier kings, to go to Monarch Basic

Alfred the Great

later kings, to go to Infobox Monarch Basic

 * 1) done Edward the Martyr
 * 2) done Harold Harefoot
 * 3) done Harthacanute
 * 4) done Edward the Confessor
 * 5) done Edgar Ætheling
 * 6) done Sweyn I of Denmark

Infobox style, no template
done Harold Godwinson

Template:Infobox Biography Royalty
to be converted to Infobox Monarch Basic

 * 1) done Ethelred II of England
 * 2) done Edmund II of England
 * 3) done Canute the Great

User:Adraeus User talk:Eixo User:Adraeus/MyTasks

Template:Infobox Monarch
Used by to William I of England to Richard III of England That is Norman dynasty to (and including) House of York

convert date1 and date2 to reign, and then remove these two parameters

 * 1) Henry I of England
 * 2) Henry II of England
 * 3) John of England
 * 4) Richard III of England
 * 5) Richard I of England
 * 6) Stephen of England
 * 7) William I of England
 * 8) William II of England
 * 9) Edward V of England
 * 10) Edward II of England
 * 11) Henry V of England
 * 12) Edward I of England
 * 13) Edward III of England
 * 14) Edward IV of England
 * 15) Richard II of England
 * 16) Henry III of England
 * 17) Henry VI of England
 * 18) Henry IV of England

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Uri Tzaig

Uri Tzaig (born 1965) is an Israeli artist. Tzaig was born in Qiryat Gat. Tzaig, who has a background in theater, works often in multimedia, video, and installations. In 1992, Tzaig graduated from the “School of Visual Theater” in Jerusalem. His installations have appeared at the Centre Georges Pompidou, MASS MoCA, and other major international museums. He currently lives in Israel.

In 2008 Tzaig was appointed as headmaster of the textile design faculty in the Shenkar College of Engineering and Design.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hypherion

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The result of the debate was REDIRECT to Hyperion.  Rob e  rt  23:33, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Hypherion
Unverifiable using any legitimate sources. Z iggurat 23:03, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment - if this is found to be nn and unworthy of an article, it would probably make a reasonable redirect to Hyperion. Grutness...  wha?  01:50, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm doing my best not to use "non-notable" to describe it, as per my reasoning at Deletion_reform/Brainstorming, but definitely, it'd make a good redirect. Z iggurat  02:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete, play by email/mail game of limited interest, unencyclopedic. --nixie 06:24, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Hyperion. --Apyule 07:19, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Hyperion. Jkelly 04:03, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
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