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Population
Denton's population is now considered to be over 100,000. Andrewhime 15:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

 * According to whom? What's your source for this statistic? If there is a credible source to corroborate your statement about the population of Denton having now reached beyond 100,000 people, then I think you ought to go ahead and make changes to the article in this regard. (But, again, only if you have a credible source to cite that backs it up. Usually, for official population statistics, it is best to use the numbers published by the United States Census Bureau.) L'être et le néant (talk) 16:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Wow, my apologies! Clearly I didn't do my homework. I didn't realize that the comment I was responding to was made almost 20 years ago. I see now that the article does reflect Denton's population accurately, which is well above even 130,000 now. Sorry again. L'être et le néant (talk) 16:48, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Music subsection is getting long
Do we really need to have a listing of every known/slightly known/virtually unknown band to have originated in Denton? There's a couple in there (Porn most notably) that don't even appear to be bands, just vandalism. At the minimum, this should be split off into a Musicians from Denton, Texas article or something like that. (preceeding unsigned comment was added by User:Wesmills at 23:20, 1 August 2006)
 * Seeing no objections here, I've split off the list of musicians into its own page. Please add subsequent information to that page. Wesmills 07:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Questions
Hey. I was doing some editing, trying to improve the quality of the article, and I have a few questions. 1. Under Culture the article refers to residents of Denton as "Dentonites." Is this the correct word, or is it "Dentonians?" I've lived here for three years, and I would have said Dentonians, but I could be wrong.

--NetherlandishYankee 04:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I lived in Denton for several years, and usually we just said "people from Denton." I don't recall "Dentonites" or "Dentonians" being used except maybe once or twice.  I think you could use either one, or both. --Ntmg05 00:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I have lived in Denton all my life. "Dentonite" and "Dentonian" are terms you only hear from the college folk. You could use 'em, I guess. But it's kind of rare. Elaragirl 20:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that's the case for practically every city anywhere, except for maybe a few of the country's largest major cities like New York (New Yorker) and Chicago (Chicagoan). You see, literally every town and every city has its own demonym—from the tiniest small towns to the most sprawling major metropolises—and almost all of such demonyms are very seldom used. Doesn't matter. There is still a proper demonym for every village, town, and city—no matter how infrequently it is used. L'être et le néant (talk) 16:17, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

"Dentonite" or "Dentonian" are both used AFAIK, but you're more likely to hear them from the Denton Record-Chronicle than you are a student. Andrewhime 16:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Among these "Dentonians" ;-) are there any other celebs/notable people than Mark Dalton (porn star) aka Jeremy James Son? My understanding is that he was a local track and field star and probably bodybuilding competitor before getting into porn; but are there any other nationall-known "people from Denton"?  Enough to make a section of "People from Denton"?Skookum1 19:49, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, the actress Ann Sheridan, of King's Row fame. --NetherlandishYankee 04:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Denton Bible Church
Write your opinions below on whether it belongs in the community article as suggested by the Places of local interest guideline and Deletion review/Log/2007 January 2.--Jorfer 01:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Your contribution says nothing about why Denton Bible Church and Tommy Nelson are significantly relevant to Denton. If DBC is that important to the city, the information should be rewritten to explain why it's so notable that it should be included on the main Denton article.  If DBC is not notable enough for inclusion in this article nor notable enough for its own article, that's not my problem.  I would be willing to accept a bulleted list of all churches in the community as that's a fair representation, but a commercial for one church should not be allowed to remain in this article.  My edit is actually the best compromise for the least amount of work as it correctly associates the notability for this information in the "famous residents" section (with Tommy Nelson's affiliation to DBC clearly identified) without requiring extensive (and probably original) research into Denton's religious scene.  --Ntmg05 02:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree with Ntmg05's proposal. It's fine to mention large local churches, but there's been no evidence presented to support this particular pastor's notability (and I think the amount of links is excessive). If a small town's downtown district was dominated by a large or historic church(s) that would be worth mentioning. According to this link, there are lots of churches in Denton (though some of these are probably on the outskirts).  OhNo itsJamie  Talk 02:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. One other point:  according to the Places of local interest guide, the information presented here does not appear to meet the guidance suggested under Creating articles about places of local interest nor does it have any verifiable sources. --Ntmg05 02:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Comment: When I noted places of local concern, I meant that under the place of local interest guideline it suggested that local articles be merged into the city's article. I also feel that the size of the church makes it notable if for nothing else, but I do feel that what Ntmg05 did was a fair compromise.--Jorfer 03:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify on the article's Talk page: the compromise I presented and agreed upon by Jorfer in our Talk pages noted that Tommy Nelson is a famous resident (with evidence provided by Jorfer and attribution to Denton Bible Church) but removed the Religion subsection since Denton Bible Church itself is not particularly notable.  A congregation of that size is not uncommon in the Dallas/Fort-Worth metroplex, nor is its recent move into a new facility.  It's a big church that's important to the community but no more so than First United Methodist or First Baptist.  Additional comments are welcome here.  --Ntmg05 17:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Church is like Soylent Green: It's made of people. 209.55.80.148 (talk) 06:01, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Just to note: There are at least three sub-articles here about Fry Street and even one about Fry Street Fair, but none about Denton's 100+ religious bodies. Surely this can be addressed, and a small note can be made about Denton Bible or whatever being the largest.207.43.79.22 18:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Denton Bible Church is certainly important to its membership.  it is a large church and has very good growth rate.  However,  I would not consider it any more important than the other large churches and maybe not any more important than all the much smaller churches.  What I do feel would be important is a place to list all Denton Churches.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.32.209.129 (talk) 00:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Sister City
Should we add anything about Denton's sister city, San Nicolás de los Garza, Mexico? Noneus 00:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sister Cities International Noneus 00:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been searching for this for a while. Is San Nicolas de los Garza, Nuevo Leon, Mexico Denton's only sister city? I could have sworn there were more... NThomas76207 01:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

 * The link above doesn't go anywhere. Basketball 110 00:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It's the only one, afaik. MahangaTalk 20:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

"Just North" or just "North"
According to the Denton Chamber of Commerce, "North of Ordinary" is the correct slogan for Denton Chamber of Commerce's new marking campain. But the Denton Convention and Visitor Bureau's slogan for the city is "Discover Denton…and all that jazz". Should both be included with footnotes denoting the CoC's & CVB's own mottos? NThomas76207 19:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * There's two possibilities. One, the official city web site has no motto or slogan listed, so there may be no official city slogan.  However, the Denton Chamber of Commerce is contracted by the city to do economic development marketing projects 1.  It's not immediately clear if "North of Ordinary" is a) part of the ED marketing campaign only, b) a separate slogan for the chamber in general but including ED, c) a slogan for the city at large, or d) all three, excepting individual city projects with their own slogans (like CVB's "Denton... And All That Jazz," which should not be considered a general city slogan due to it's association only with CVB projects).  If I was forced to pick one, I'd go with choice "d) all three" as this casts the widest net given the available facts.  --Ntmg05 21:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I found these two links., The latter is by the city's mayor. That's why I changed it from "Just North" to just "North". Let me know if I'm wrong, though. :) MahangaTalk to me 03:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Nickname
In the interest of bringing the page to that of the rest of the major Metroplex pages, does Denton have a nickname? Little D is the only one i know of but i feel it demotes the city and gives Denton the wrong impression NThomas76207 23:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Native American fighter?
Whoever heard of "John Denton: Native American fighter"? Surely there has to be someway to re-word this without saying "Injun killer" or "Indigenous tribal peoples murderer." "Frontier soldier," perhaps? 207.43.79.22 18:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:DCTA Downtown Denton Station Rendering.PNG
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Fry Street Fair and Delta Lodge merger proposal
Fry Street Fair is marginally notable and would face a tough fight at WP:AFD. It is better off merged into Denton, Texas. Delta Lodge has little notability independent of Fry Street Fair so it should be merged into here as well. Alternatively, Delta Lodge can be merged into Fry Street Fair, with the caveat that the resulting article will face perpetual challenges to its notability. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  21:16, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

 * I redirected both articles here. I didn't see anything worth merging but if you do, feel free to dig through the last versions of Delta Lodge and Fry Street Fair for material.  Both articles were at risk for failing at Articles for Deletion. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  01:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

List of notable people merged into here
I merged List of people from Denton, Texas (last version) into Denton, Texas. If you don't like it and revert, please revert in both places. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  01:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

We should say something...
about the fracking thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.116.108.122 (talk) 20:24, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely, I tried and added a section but swiftly removed. I suppose if it does not pass the Chamber of Commerce test then it is not needed. George P. Bush will be a main player in Denton and the dangers of citizen empowerment. The time it takes for it to be included in the article will be interesting. I will make another effort soon. Editors who challenge and remove need to get realistic and stop the revisionist efforts.--M2545 (talk) 06:48, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Page locked, not allowing edits.??--M2545 (talk) 06:48, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

page still locked.... oh well, this will be fun finding out why it is being extinguished, considering hundreds of articles in very reputable media. I am maintaining a log for future dd--M2545 (talk) 06:48, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

2014 Vote where citizens take a stand against fracking.
Someone add it! Articles everywhere, except here.--M2545 (talk) 06:48, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

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Wholly irrelevant info in the 'History' section of article
Just because a statement is true, correct, and historically accurate, does not make it relevant to this particular article, which is about Denton, Texas. The last paragraph (all one sentence of it) of the 'History' section of this article mentions that Texas voted to join the Confederacy via a statewide referendum in 1861. This is entirely true and correct. However, it is also entirely irrelevant to Denton and therefore does not belong in this article. It would be different if the statement provided info about how the citizens of 1860s Denton had voted in that particular referendum, but it doesn't do that. It is not a statement relevant to the history of Denton in any way, shape, form, or fashion. It belongs in an article about Texas history or American Civil War history or something similar. For the purposes of this article, which, again, is about Denton, the statement is wholly irrelevant and should rightfully be deleted. Alternatively, the statement could remain, if and only if someone can add to it in such a way that makes it relevant to the subject matter of this article. Otherwise, there is no justification for it being here. (It doesn't even make sense to the reader, as the section is all about the history of Denton, when all of a sudden, there is this random statement about Texas secession from the Union in 1861 that makes no effort to explain why such a statement is relevant to Denton's history.) L'être et le néant (talk) 16:33, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

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Russian icons

The use and making of icons entered Kievan Rus' following its conversion to Orthodox Christianity in AD 988. As a general rule, these icons strictly followed models and formulas hallowed by Byzantine art, led from the capital in Constantinople. As time passed, the Russians widened the vocabulary of types and styles far beyond anything found elsewhere in the Orthodox world.

The personal, innovative and creative traditions of Western European religious art were largely lacking in Russia before the 17th century, when Russian icon painting became strongly influenced by religious paintings and engravings from both Protestant and Catholic Europe. In the mid-17th-century changes in liturgy and practice instituted by Patriarch Nikon resulted in a split in the Russian Orthodox Church. The traditionalists, the persecuted "Old Ritualists" or "Old Believers", continued the traditional stylization of icons, while the State Church modified its practice. From that time icons began to be painted not only in the traditional stylized and non-realistic mode, but also in a mixture of Russian stylization and Western European realism, and in a Western European manner very much like that of Catholic religious art of the time. These types of icons, while found in Russian Orthodox churches, are also sometimes found in various sui juris rites of the Catholic Church.

Russian icons are typically paintings on wood, often small, though some in churches and monasteries may be much larger. Some Russian icons were made of copper. Many religious homes in Russia have icons hanging on the wall in the krasny ugol, the "red" or "beautiful" corner.

There is a rich history and elaborate religious symbolism associated with icons. In Russian churches, the nave is typically separated from the sanctuary by an iconostasis (Russian ikonostas, иконостас), or icon-screen, a wall of icons with double doors in the centre.

Russians sometimes speak of an icon as having been "written", because in the Russian language (like Greek, but unlike English) the same word (pisat', писать in Russian) means both to paint and to write. Icons are considered to be the Gospel in paint, and therefore careful attention is paid to ensure that the Gospel is faithfully and accurately conveyed.

Icons considered miraculous were said to "appear." The "appearance" (Russian: yavlenie, явление) of an icon is its supposedly miraculous discovery. "A true icon is one that has 'appeared', a gift from above, one opening the way to the Prototype and able to perform miracles".

History
Some of the most venerated but whole icons considered to be products of miraculous thaumaturge are those known by the name of the town associated with them, such as the Vladimir, the Smolensk, the Kazan and the Częstochowa images, all of the Virgin Mary, usually referred to by Orthodox Christians as the Theotokos, the Birth-Giver of God.

The preeminent Russian icon painter was Andrei Rublev (1360 – early 15th century), who was "glorified" (officially recognized as a saint) by the Moscow Patriarchate in 1988. His most famous work is The Old Testament Trinity.

Russians often commissioned icons for private use, adding figures of specific saints for whom they or members of their family were named gathered around the icon's central figure. Icons were frequently clad in metal covers (the oklad оклад, or more traditionally, riza риза, meaning "robe") of gilt or silvered metal of ornate workmanship, which were sometimes enameled, filigreed, or set with artificial, semiprecious or even precious stones and pearls. Pairs of icons of Jesus and Mary were given as wedding presents to newly married couples.

There are far more varieties of icons of the Virgin Mary in Russian icon painting and religious use than of any other figure; Marian icons are commonly copies of images considered to be miraculous, of which there are hundreds: "The icons of Mary were always deemed miraculous, those of her son rarely so". Icons of Mary most often depict her with the child Jesus in her arms; some, however, omit the child. Examples of these include the "Kaluga", "Fiery-Faced" "Gerondissa", "Bogoliubovo", "Vilna", "Melter of Hard Hearts", "Seven Swords", etc., along with icons that depict events in Mary's life before she gave birth to Jesus, such as the Annunciation or Mary's own birth.

Because icons in Orthodoxy must follow traditional standards and are essentially copies, Orthodoxy never developed the reputation of the individual artist as Western Christianity did, and the names of even the finest icon painters are seldom recognized except by some Eastern Orthodox or art historians. Icon painting was and is a conservative art, in many cases considered a craft, in which the painter is essentially merely a tool for replication. The painter did not seek individual glory but considered himself a humble servant of God. That is why in the 19th and early 20th centuries, icon painting in Russia went into a great decline with the arrival of machine lithography on paper and tin, which could produce icons in great quantity and much more cheaply than the workshops of painters. Even today large numbers of paper icons are purchased by Orthodox rather than more expensive painted panels.

As the painter did not intend to glorify himself, it was not deemed necessary to sign an icon. Later icons were often the work of many hands, not of a single artisan. Nonetheless, some later icons are signed with name of the painter, as well as the date and place. A peculiarity of dates written on icons is that many are dated from the "Creation of the World", which in Eastern Orthodoxy was believed to have taken place on September 1 in the year 5,509 before the birth of Jesus.

During the Soviet era in Russia, former village icon painters in Palekh, Mstyora, and Kholuy transferred their techniques to lacquerware, which they decorated with ornate depictions of Russian fairy tales and other non-religious scenes. This transition from religious to secular subjects gave rise, in the mid-1920, to Russian lacquer art on papier-mâché. Most distinguished within this relatively new art form are the intricate Palekh miniature paintings on a black lacquer background.

Many Russian icons were destroyed, or sold abroad, by agents of the Soviet government; some were hidden to avoid destruction, or were smuggled out of the country. Since the fall of communism, numbers of icon painting studios have again opened and are painting in a variety of styles for the local and international market. Many older, hidden icons have also been retrieved from hiding, or brought back from overseas.

In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the market for icons expanded beyond Orthodox believers to include those collecting them as examples of Russian traditional art and culture. The same period witnessed much forgery of icons painted in the Pre-Nikonian manner. Such fakes, often beautifully done, were artificially aged through skillful techniques and sold as authentic to Old Believers and collectors. Some still turn up on the market today, along with numbers of newly painted intentional forgeries, as well as icons sold legitimately as new but painted in earlier styles. Many icons sold today retain some characteristics of earlier painting but are nonetheless obviously contemporary.

Painting techniques and collecting

Most Russian icons are painted using egg tempera on specially prepared wooden panels, or on cloth glued onto wooden panels. Gold leaf is frequently used for halos and background areas; however, in some icons, silver leaf, sometimes tinted with shellac to look like gold, is used instead, and some icons have no gilding at all. Russian icons may also incorporate elaborate tin, bronze or silver exterior facades that are usually highly embellished and often multi-dimensional. These facades are called rizas or oklads.

A regular aspect of icon painting is to varnish over the image with drying oil, either immediately after the paint is dry, or later on. The majority of hand-painted Russian icons exhibit some degree of surface varnish, although many do not.

Panels that utilize what are known as "back slats" — cross members that are dovetailed into the back of the boards that make up the panel to prevent warping during the drying process and to ensure structural integrity over time — are usually older than 1880/1890. Subsequent to 1880/1890, advances in materials negated the need for these cross members, thus, are seen either on icons painted after this time period when the intent of the artist was to deceive by creating an "older looking" icon, or on icons which are rendered according to traditional means as a way of honoring the old processes. Back slats are sometimes necessary on newer icons of large size for the same reasons (warping and stability) as existed pre-1900.

Age, authenticity, and forgeries

Since the 1990s, numerous late 19th- and early 20th-century icons have been artificially aged, then purported to unwitting buyers and collectors as being older than they really are. Often these "semi-forgeries" are perpetrated by master-level Russian icon painters, highly skilled in their ability to not only paint extraordinary works of art, but to "create age" on the finished icon. While the resulting icon may very well be a fine work of art that many would be glad to own, it is still considered to be a work of deception, thus lacking value as an icon beyond its decorative qualities.

Another problem area in the field of icon collecting is the "recomposing" of legitimately old icons with newly painted then falsely aged images that exhibit a higher degree of artistry. For example, a primitive or "folk art" icon from the 17th or 18th century might be repainted by a modern master painter, then the image falsely aged to match the panel in order to create an icon that could pass as a 17th- or 18th-century masterwork. In reality, it is nothing more than a 20th- or 21st-century masterwork on a 17th- or 18th-century panel. With the rise in the values and prices of authentic icons in recent decades, this is now also done with lower quality 19th-century folk icons that are repainted by contemporary masters and then artificially aged to appear to match the age of the panel.

Legalities
Pursuant to Russian law, it is presently illegal to export any Russian icon that is over one hundred years in age. Any and all icons being exported from Russia must be accompanied by a certificate from the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation, attesting to the age of the icon. While Russian law regarding the exportation of icons is quite clear, examples of Russian icons over 100 years of age are regularly introduced into the open market by way of smuggling into the neighboring Baltic countries, or as a result of corrupt Ministry of Culture officials who are willing to certify an otherwise unexportable icon as being "100 years old" in order to facilitate its transfer.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, many Russian icons have been repatriated via direct purchase by Russian museums, private Russian collectors, or as was the case of Pope John Paul II giving an 18th-century copy of the famous Our Lady of Kazan icon to the Russian Orthodox Church, returned to Russia in good faith.

Books

 * Henri J. M. Nouwen, from Ave Maria Press

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Post career/other
I think there were at least rumours in the media about the Courtnalls being interested in buying the Canucks before the Aquilini deal. Also, he had a restaurant chain (or was it just one?). And wasn't there something about him and his bro's starting a resort somewhere up the coast some years ago? I'll have to look into all this, as their names pop up from time to time not relating with hockey, but still worth a note.--Keefer4 | Talk 01:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The Courtnalls are investing in a logging thing, and I do believe the resort is part of it. I don't want to write anything yet, because this is all just local talk, and I haven't looked up any sources to prove it, though I'm certain I could if I tried at all. But indeed, a post-hockey section would be appropriate for the article. Kaiser matias 07:59, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

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"dearth of acumen"
Appears not to be real. Got 4 google hits, none relevant. R. fiend 16:50, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Delete, per above. --Interiot 17:03, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
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Walashma dynasty

The Walashma dynasty was a medieval Muslim dynasty of the Horn of Africa founded in Ifat (modern eastern Shewa). Founded in the 13th century, it governed the Ifat and Adal Sultanates in what are present-day, Somalia, Djibouti, Eritrea and eastern Ethiopia.

Origins and establishment
Yusuf bin Ahmad al-Kawneyn is believed to be the founder and ancestor of the Walashma Dynasty. He is believed to be born in Zeila during the early Adal Kingdom period with which he is associated. He is a very famous Somali saint figure. The establishment of the Walashma Dynasty in the Horn of Africa is credited due to them being native to the region.

Genealogical traditions
The Walashma princes of Ifat and Adal claimed to possessed Arab genealogical traditions. In terms of lineage, Walashma traditions trace descent from  Akīl ibn Abī Tālib, the brother of the Caliph ʿAlī and Jaʿfar ibn Abī Tālib which is a similar origin story to the Darod clan. The latter was among the earliest Muslims to settle in the Horn region. However, the semi-legendary apologetic History of the Walasma asserts that ʿUmar ibn-Dunya-hawaz was a descendant of Caliph ʿAlī's son al-Hasan. This is not supported by both Maqrizi and the chronicle of the Walashma. But ʿUmar ibn-Dunya-hawaz, whom both assert was the founder of the dynasty, was of Quraysh or Hashimite origin. Fourteenth century Arab historian Ibn Khaldun mentions the ancestors of Walasma were once tributary to the Kingdom of Damot.

However, most historians, including Enrico Cerulli and J. Spencer Trimingham, regard the Walashma dynasty to be of local origin. Cerulli asserts that according to Harar chronicles, the 10th century Somali saint "Aw" Barkhadle from Arabia was the fifth ancestor ofʿUmar ibn Dunya-hawaz, founder of the Walashma Dynasty. Ioan Lewis also mentions that in a short king-list titled 'Rulers of the land of Sa'ad ad-Din', Barkhadle is recognized as one of the Walashma ancestors. Lewis places his death at around 1190 AD. J. Spencer Trimingham does note that according to local traditions though, he was said to have lived for over 500 years, placing his death in the early 16th century. Some rulers of the Walashma Dynasty are also thought to be buried at the site of Aw-Barkhadle in modern-day Somaliland. As descendants of Barkhadle, it was said that the Walashma success, longevity, and influence was due to their native family background Walasma are historically tied to the ancestors of Argobba and the people of Doba. The Harari people also claim to be associated with the Walasma. Bahru Zewde, Richard Pankhurst, Djibril Niane regard the Walasma Sultans of Ifat and Adal to be predominantly Argobba and Harari. However, Amelie Chekroun suggests no possible link to identify the people of medieval Ifat with the Argobba people.

Walasma dynasty of Ifat initiated a series of marriage alliances with the leaders of Adal, according to the chronicle "Conquest of Abyssinia" by Arab Faqīh, Harla lords descendant from the last Walasma ruler of Ifat Sa'ad ad-Din II participated in the sixteenth century Ethiopian–Adal War. The last known Walasma member in Adal was Barakat ibn Umar Din of Harar during the sixteenth century. The Kabirto of Harla as well as Doba who originate from the Walasma dynasty were overthrown in 1769 by the Mudaito dynasty of Afar in Aussa (modern Afar Region), the descendant of Kabirto Shaykh Kabir Hamza, preserved their history through manuscripts.

The title Walasma was still used in Ifat province as late as the nineteenth century with governors of that region claiming descent from the old dynasty. In 1993 Mohammed Saleh who professed his ancestors were the Argobba Walasma of Ifat revealed that his progenitors were traders of the Shewa-Harar route for centuries.

Language
According to Leo Africanus in the 16th century stated that the Walashma dynasty spoke Somali alongside Arabic and were centred in Zeila.

According to Ferry Robert and Harbeson John the language spoken by the people of Adal as well as its rulers the Imams and Sultans would closely resemble contemporary Harari language. The 19th-century Ethiopian historian Asma Giyorgis suggests that the Walashma themselves spoke Arabic.

Sultanate of Ifat
During the end of the 13th century, northern Hararghe was seat of a Muslim sultanate named under the rule of Makhzumi dynasty. A contemporary source describes the sultanate being torn apart by internal strafe and weakened by struggles with neighboring Muslim states. In 1278 one of these neighboring states, named Ifat in eastern Shewa, led by the Walashma invaded the Sultanate of Shewa. After a few years of struggle the sultanate was annexed into Ifat. This annexation is usually attributed to ʿUmar, but he had been dead for 50 years by the time Shewa was annexed. More likely, it was his grandson Jamal ad-Dīn or perhaps even his great-grandson Abūd. In 1288 Sultan Wali Asma successfully conquered Hubat, Adal and other Muslim states in the region. Making Ifat the most powerful Muslim kingdom in the Horn of Africa.

In 1332, the Sultan of Ifat, Haqq ad-Din I was slain in a military campaign against the Abyssinian Emperor Amda Seyon's troops. Amda Seyon then appointed Jamal ad-Din as the new King, followed by Jamal ad-Din's brother Nasr ad-Din. Despite this setback, the Muslim rulers of Ifat continued their campaign. The Abyssinian Emperor branded the Muslims of the surrounding area "enemies of the Lord", and again invaded Ifat in the early 15th century. After much struggle, Ifat's troops were defeated and the Sultanate's ruler, King Sa'ad ad-Din II, fled to Zeila. He was pursued there by Abyssinian forces, where they slayed him.

Sultanate of Adal
Adal was a general term for a region of lowlands inhabited by Muslims east of the province of Ifat. It was used ambiguously in the medieval era to indicate the Muslim inhabited low land portion east of the Ethiopian Empire. Including north of the Awash River towards Lake Abbe as well as the territory between Shewa and Zeila on the coast of Somaliland. According to Ewald Wagner, Adal region was historically the area stretching from Zeila to Harar. In the late fourteenth century Walasma princes Haqq ad-Din II and Sa'ad ad-Din II relocated their base to the Harari plateau in Adal forming a new Sultanate.

The last Sultan of Ifat, Sa'ad ad-Din II, was killed in Zeila after he had fled there in 1403, his children escaped to Yemen, before later returning to the Harar plateau in 1415. In the early 15th century, Adal's capital was established in the town of Dakkar, where Sabr ad-Din III, the eldest son of Sa'ad ad-Din II, established a new base after his return from Yemen. By the late 1400s the Walasma sultans began to be challenged by the Harla emirs of the Harar plateau with rise of Imam Mahfuz.

Adal's headquarters were relocated in the following century, this time to Harar. From this new capital, Adal organised an effective army led by Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi (Ahmad "Gurey" or Ahmad "Gran") that invaded the Abyssinian empire. This 16th century campaign is historically known as the Conquest of Abyssinia (Futuh al-Habash). During the war, Imam Ahmad pioneered the use of cannons supplied by the Ottoman Empire, which he imported through Zeila and deployed against Abyssinian forces and their Portuguese allies led by Cristóvão da Gama. Some scholars argue that this conflict proved, through their use on both sides, the value of firearms like the matchlock musket, cannons and the arquebus over traditional weapons.

The Walashma sultans of Ifant and Adal also apparently had a fair taste for luxury, the commercial relations that existed between the Adal Sultanate and the rulers of the Arab peninsula allowed Muslims to obtain luxury items that Christian Ethiopians, whose relations with the outside world were still blocked, could not acquire, a Christian document describing Sultan Badlay relates: "'And the robes [of the sultan] and those of his leaders were adorned with silver and shone on all sides. And the dagger which he [the sultan] carried at his side was richly adorned with gold and precious stones; and his amulet was adorned with drops of gold; and the inscriptions on the amulet were of gold paint. And his parasol came from the land of Syria and it was such beautiful work that those who looked at it marveled, and winged serpents were painted on it.'"

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I move this page to Taxonomy of the Carcharhiniformes because the old title seems a little bit confusing and not very concise...Qwertzy2 16:54, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

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Is there any point to this list, especially as it acknowledges that it is quite incomplete? The Carcharhiniformes article provides the Families, which in turn provide the genera and species. Having a duplicate just means more maintenance overhead. GrahamBould (talk) 10:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was Speedy deleted as having no content whatsoever; totally unverifiable.
 * DELETE I can find no mention of OUNO Recordings anywhere, so i'm gueesing it's just a vanity page. user:Matt.whitby
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 * Wielka Encyklopedia PWN → Wielka Encyklopedia Powszechna PWN – Delete because these are two different encyclopedias. The redirect is, therefore, misleading. – Kpalion (talk) 21:03, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The second encyclopaedia ("Wielka Encyklopedia PWN") is indeed mentioned on the target page, at the bottom. So it's a valid redir. Perhaps you would like to split it out as a separate article, at the location of the redirect? Noel (talk) 03:56, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

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On the Street Where You Live

"On the Street Where You Live" is a song with music by Frederick Loewe and lyrics by Alan Jay Lerner from the 1956 Broadway musical My Fair Lady. It is sung in the musical by the character Freddy Eynsford-Hill, who was portrayed by John Michael King in the original production. In the 1964 film version, it was sung by Bill Shirley, dubbing for actor Jeremy Brett.

Recorded versions
The most popular single of the song was recorded by Vic Damone in 1956 for Columbia Records. It reached No. 4 on the Billboard chart and No. 6 on Cashbox magazine's chart. It was a No. 1 hit in the UK Singles Chart in 1958. Eddie Fisher also had a top 20 Billboard hit with the song in 1956, reaching No. 18. Lawrence Welk and His Orchestra released a version that went to No. 96 in 1956. Andy Williams' recording appeared in the Billboard top 40 in 1964, reaching No. 3 on the adult contemporary chart and No. 28 on the Billboard Hot 100. The song has been recorded by a wide variety of other performers, including Ray Conniff and Bing Crosby, who recorded the song in 1956 for use on his radio show and it was subsequently included in the boxed set The Bing Crosby CBS Radio Recordings (1954–56) issued by Mosaic Records (catalog MD7-245) in 2009, Lawrence Welk (whose band also performed it on his weekly TV series numerous times), Shirley Horn, Doris Day, George Shearing, Frank Chacksfield, Alfie Boe, Bobby Darin, Dean Martin, Mario Lanza, Nat King Cole, Holly Cole, Marvin Gaye, Ben E. King, Perry Como, Ray Reach, Harry Connick Jr., Gene Pitney, The Miracles (on their I'll Try Something New album), Earl Grant, Dennis DeYoung, Quincy Jones, David Whitfield, Nancy Wilson, Billy Porter, Ilse Huizinga, Matt Dusk, Richard Clayderman, Ricki Lee Jones, Mr Hudson & The Library, Peggy Lee, Vocal Spectrum, Steve Hogarth from Marillion, Bill Frisell, André Previn & Shelly Manne, Bryn Terfel, Ed Townsend, Chet Baker, Jason Manford, Ronnie Hilton, Willie Nelson, Etta Jones, and Eddie Fisher.

In popular culture

 * In the Dick Van Dyke Show S3.E5 While Rob and Laura are mad at their neighbors the Helpers they play charades and after acting out things like 'walking all over people' and 'back-stabbing' the answer is revealed to be "On The Street Where You Live"
 * In 1991, on the children's show Sesame Street, Oscar the Grouch, completely fed up with all the nice people around him on Sesame Street, but still very grateful for his trash can, sang a song called "On This Street Where I'm Grouchy", which spoofed "On the Street Where You Live".
 * In the 1999 film Blast from the Past, Adam (Brendan Fraser) sings part of this song to Eve (Alicia Silverstone) and explains that he doesn't want another woman as he can only think about her.
 * The song plays during the opening credits of the television adaptation of 15 Storeys High in episodes one and six of the first series.
 * The song is also featured in the television series Mad Men in the finale of the first season's first episode.
 * In the seventh season of the television show, Frasier, it is played by the orchestra after the Crane brothers 'resolve' their conflict at a dance in the episode, "Rivals".
 * In the ninth episode of the third season of Better Things, actors sing the song in a bar after completing a table read of a fictional Broadway play

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The result of the debate was DELETE. — J I P | Talk 08:43, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Brick Day
Notable? Real? Only seems to exist on some guy's blog. DJ Clayworth 16:58, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

This is the second year that some of us are celebrating the holiday, from St. Louis to San Francisco. It may be small, but that does that mean it's insignificant? It *is* listed under "humorous" holidays, after all... Oh, and what blog did you find mention of it? Kopper Wow, cool! I hadn't seen that before. Thanks for the link. I actually learned about the holiday last year from one of the guys in The Mothballs. I guess it's a big deal in SF. But just because it's gotten little "Web exposure" is no reason to kill it! I took a brick to a bar last October 15th. Didn't you? Save Brick Day!! Kopper
 * . From 2003. DJ Clayworth 17:05, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * delete. Amusing, though. mikka (t) 18:43, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless someone can cite sources. Currently this is unverifiable.--Isotope23 18:50, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Brick Day is an important holiday and legislation is being written to commemorate it as an official holiday in the State of California. SwampDogg 14:50, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Posted by 4.231.183.109. mikka (t) 20:13, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless sources are cited. Please see Verifiability for a discussion of this. (By the way, being impressed that the topic has come up in some guy's blog is probably not a good way to convince us that this topic is encyclopedic...) Bunchofgrapes 20:45, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not very encyclopedic. Ann Heneghan (talk) 21:46, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as unverifiable. --Carnildo 23:33, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * keep it!!! brick is way cooler than adobe and especially siding. this is an important american holiday....dunjen
 * Why not move it to fictional holidays?
 * Keep Though the article needs improvement. I, too, saw mention of this on a blog but it was a blog of the San Francisco Bay Guardian.  It is also mentioned on the page for radio station KALX. Crypticfirefly 03:37, 30 September 2005 (UTC)  Here's another blog mentioning Brick Day as falling on October 15. More impressively, I found an article about Brickday on the website for a print publication, East Bay Express. There are, however, some remarkable similarities between the story and the article. Crypticfirefly 03:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Indeed so similar that it might be copyvio. DJ Clayworth 13:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Not-notable. U$er 17:27, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
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Category:Ancient universities of Scotland

''This category contains the four ancient universities of Scotland that were founded in the Middle Ages, or, in the case of Edinburgh, the early modern period. It should be noted that Aberdeen was formerly two universities, and that Dundee was formerly part of St Andrews''


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Rick Brewer

Rick Brewer (born in Stanley, New Brunswick) is a New Brunswick businessman and politician, and a former assistant pastor.

Early life
Brewer was the son of Richard C. Brewer and Emma Hanson. He was an assistant pastor in the Pentecostal Church. Brewer has been involved in business for most of his life, largely in the grocery industry. He has been involved in the grocery industry for the past 33 years, beginning with the wholesale business at Willett Foods and The Food Group Inc. He then entered the retail market as the manager and supervisor of five convenience stores.

Political career
He was elected to the Legislative Assembly of New Brunswick in the 2003 election to represent the riding of Southwest Miramichi, defeating cabinet minister Norman Betts. A Liberal, he has been the critic of the Department of Supply and Services since the election. On July 6, 2006 he was named chair of the Opposition's Petroleum Products Pricing Task Force, established in the wake of gas price regulation taking effect in New Brunswick on July 1.

He was re-elected in the 2006 election despite a strong challenge from former MLA Brent Taylor. Following the election, on November 7, 2006, he was named whip for the government caucus. On November 12, 2008, he was added to the cabinet. He served as Minister of Human Resources and Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs until September 2010. Presently (fall of 2010) Rick & Ruth are involved in building a school in Iquitos, Peru. Rick recently received his Clergy license with Faith Christian Fellowship of Canada.

Personal life
Brewer is married with two children and operates a convenience store in Boiestown.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madison House

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The result of the debate was delete. --Phroziac(talk) 00:34, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Madison House
Not even a complete sentence, and from a commercial advertisement posing as a username. —Uris 17:00, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. –Uris
 * Content-free page. Expand or delete Pilatus 17:33, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. feydey 20:22, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Article contains no content. It could possible worthwhile but it has been posted for almost two months and no one has expanded it, so dump it. It can always be re-created if someone cares to fill it out. ♠DanMS 23:56, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
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User talk:Munawar gcm

Whatever you were trying to do in editing Globalization didn't work. I reverted the image edit because it was not displaying, but if you'd like help with something, please leave me a note on my talk page and I'll see what I can do. Mamawrites 17:01, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ARAGI

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The result of the debate was delete · Katefan0(scribble) 04:26, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

ARAGI
Non-notable. I couldn't find anything on Google about this group. Only a single sentence. --Quasipalm 17:02, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete --Quasipalm 17:02, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as nn high-school student group, even if verifiable. MCB 17:52, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * delete as above Pete.Hurd 16:58, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, probably unverifiable, probably non-notable, but if indeed they exist, I don't ever see anything more being written about this. Bobo192 06:36, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
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Fuenteovejuna

Fuenteovejuna is a play by the Spanish playwright Lope de Vega. First published in Madrid in 1619, as part of Docena Parte de las Comedias de Lope de Vega Carpio (Volume 12 of the Collected plays of Lope de Vega Carpio), the play is believed to have been written between 1612 and 1614. The play is based upon a historical incident that took place in the village of Fuenteovejuna in Castile, in 1476. While under the command of the Order of Calatrava, a commander, Fernán Gómez de Guzmán, mistreated the villagers, who banded together and killed him. When a magistrate sent by King Ferdinand II of Aragon arrived at the village to investigate, the villagers, even under the pain of torture, responded only by saying "Fuenteovejuna did it."

Background
Rapid change took place in Spain in the years between the historical incident at Fuenteovejuna in 1476 to the writing of Lope's play in 1614. In that time, Spain is united under the Habsburgs and becomes a world superpower with the discovery of the New World. At the time of Lope's writing, Spain was still in the midst of a Siglo de Oro ("Golden Century"), which saw growth in all fields of the arts and academics. In 1469, seven years before the events at Fuenteovejuna, Princess Isabella I of Castile married Prince Ferdinand II of Aragon. With their marriage, the two major kingdoms of Spain—Castile and Aragon—were joined. This marriage would later ensure the successful completion of the Christian Reconquista of Spain from the Muslim Moors. When Isabella ascended the throne upon the death of her half-brother, Enrique IV, in 1474, Alfonso V of Portugal crossed into Spain in order to secure the throne for Juana, Princess of Castile, the daughter of Enrique. At the Battle of Toro, two years later, Isabella and Ferdinand's forces defeated the forces of Alfonso and Juana.

The same year, Ciudad Real was attacked by knights of the Order of Calatrava under the leadership of its Grand Master, 20-year-old Rodrigo Téllez Girón, who supported the claims to the throne by Alfonso and Juana. The city was of strategic importance due to its location near the border of Castile. It was during this invasion that Commander Gómez de Guzmán was killed by the villagers of Fuenteovejuna after he treated them poorly. After no single guilty party was found, Ferdinand pardoned the villagers from Fuenteovejuna.

Summary
The first act opens in Almagro at the home of the Grand Master of the Order of Calatrava, Rodrigo Téllez Girón. Here, a commander of the order, Fernán Gómez de Guzmán, urges his superior to seize the town of Ciudad Real in the name of Juana and Alfonso of Portugal. Girón decides to capture the city. The village and villagers of Fuenteovejuna are introduced and speak of love. The Commander enters and attempts to take two of the women, Laurencia and Pascuala, back to his castle, but they resist and escape. King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella discuss the capture of Ciudad Real and vow to retake it. Later, two young lovers, Laurencia and Frondoso, meet in the forest. When the Commander approaches, Frondoso hides and watches as the Commander attempts to force himself on Laurencia. As the Commander has put down his crossbow, Frondoso steps out and takes it. As Laurencia escapes his grasp, Frondoso points the crossbow at the Commander, leaving with only the crossbow as the Commander curses both of them.

Act II begins in the village with a discussion among the peasants that is interrupted by the entrance of the Commander. He demands Esteban, Laurencia's father, to allow him to have her but he refuses and the Commander takes this as an insult. A soldier enters and begs the Commander to return to Ciudad Real (Royal City) which has just been surrounded by the forces of Ferdinand and Isabella. After the exit of the Commander, Laurencia and Pascuala go on the run with one of the peasants, Mengo. They are met by another peasant girl, Jacinta, who is being pursued by the Commander's servants. When Mengo protects her, they are both seized by the Commander's lackeys who will whip Mengo while Jacinta is raped by the Commander and then given to his men. Shortly afterwards, Esteban agrees to allow Laurencia and Frondoso to marry. The wedding proceeds but is interrupted by the Commander who arrests Frondoso, for his threat with the crossbow, as well as Esteban and Laurencia who protest his arrest.

The third act opens with the men of the village meeting to decide how to handle the situation. Laurencia, having been beaten and subject to attempted Droit du seigneur (though she beats off her attackers and escapes) enters, but is not immediately recognized. She reprimands the men for not attempting to rescue her, inspiring the men to kill the Commander. While preparations are being made to hang Frondoso, the band of villagers enters and kills the Commander and one of his servants. Flores, the surviving servant, escapes and rushes to Ferdinand and Isabella to tell what has happened. The shocked rulers order a magistrate to the village to investigate. The villagers, celebrating with the head of the Commander, are told of the magistrate's approach. In order to save themselves, the villagers say "Fuenteovejuna did it". The magistrate proceeds to torture men, women, and young boys on the rack, but gives up after not receiving a satisfactory answer. Ferdinand and Isabella pardon the Grand Master and when the villagers enter and tell their story, they are pardoned as well.

Themes
Class struggle is one of the key concepts as there is a large gap between those in power and those without, namely farmers and peasants. The commander oppresses the town with his power and wealth. Only as a collective are they able to fight back. Women's rights are another major theme, surprising as it may be for the time of this writing. The commander has taken the city as his personal harem. Once the attempted rape occurs with Laurencia, his downfall begins. It is Laurencia that encourages the town to rise against the Commander and the women that take the lives of officers. An additional theme as is tradition versus progress. Spain at the time was in the middle of much change per the backdrop of the play. The deaths of the Commander and Ortuno is not just murder but mutiny. While Ferdinand and Isabella decline to find the town guilty; they are not pleased to pardon them either despite the brutality.

Recent productions
The Soviet ballet Laurencia was based on Fuenteovejuna.

The play has been filmed several times in Spanish and other languages, but never in English. A musical version, called Fuente Ovehuna, was produced in 1972.

Fuenteovejuna was produced as a play in three acts, in English translation by William Colford, at La MaMa Experimental Theatre Club in 1972.

A musical version of the play was produced by the State Theatre of Northern Greece in 1976-77, with music by Thanos Mikroutsikos and lyrics by Yorgos Michaelides.

The play was produced at London's Royal National Theatre in 1989, as adapted by Adrian Mitchell and directed by Declan Donnellan.

Fuenteovejuna was produced at the Stratford Shakespeare Festival in 2008 (see Stratford Festival production history), with Scott Wentworth as the tyrant and Jonathan Goad and Sara Topham as the lovers. The Toronto Globe and Mail gave the production a favorable review.

The Village, directed by Nadia Fall at The Royal Stratford East is based on the Spanish play. It opens her inaugural season as Artistic Director of Stratford East. This contemporary work is set in India.

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Talk:Japanese aircraft carrier Shōkaku

How long was Shokaku out of action after Coral Sea?

Shokaku - most powerful carrier in the world?
I'm repeatedly removing the note about Shokaku being the most powerful carrier in the world at the start of World War II. Lexington and Saratoga were equal to or superior to Shokaku, and were built ten years earlier. Akagi and Kaga were slower, but were in other respects equal to or superior to Shokaku. Note that I'm not trying to add "superior to any other carrier" labels to any of the above ships. The situation is sufficiently muddy that calling any of these ships "best in the world" is POV. TomTheHand 18:58, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

 * whether or not it was the most powerful carrier in the world at the start of World War II it is hard to say (Enterprise was probably equal) however Lexington, Saratoga, Akagi and Kaga were all converted from battlecruisers or battleships and they were much slower and their range wasn't as good. Loosmark (talk) 01:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Lexington and Saratoga were as fast as or faster than Shōkaku, and had enough range to sail from San Francisco to Tokyo and back without refueling; the range difference isn't a significant point. TomTheHand (talk) 01:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

 * All the sources i've give the Shokakus as slightly faster. do you have any good source for the range? Loosmark (talk) 10:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

 * This source indicates that Saratoga reached 34.99 knots on her trials. I don't have the source at hand for Lexington's 34.82 knot trial speed.  Navsource.org notes that their design endurance was 10,000 nautical miles at 10 knots; Tokyo is about 4100 nautical miles from San Francisco, so I gave that as an example. TomTheHand (talk) 14:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Tokyo San Francisco is 4100 nautical miles however i think thats in straight line in practise you can't sail like that due operational factors, antisub zigzaging ,sea conditions etc. etc.

btw the second link you give indicates her speed was 33.25+ knots. Shokaku's speed was 34,2 knots according to.

Loosmark (talk) 14:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

 * So... in summary... they were capable of about the same speed, Lexington and Saratoga carried a larger air group, more armor, and more armament, had an insignificant disadvantage in range, and were completed ten years earlier, and so if you edit this article to state that Shokaku was the most powerful carrier in the world, I will remove it. TomTheHand (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * For one, Lexington and Saratoga carried 78 aircraft, while Shokaku and Zuikaku carried 84, and spotting planes made up some of their aircraft, while the Kakus devoted their entire group to attack aircraft. This is made less impressive by the fact that the Lexs were bigger than the Kakus, yet carried less aircraft since they were conversions and not purpose built designs. This is not even stating the aircraft the Kakus carried were all superior to any of the aircraft Lexington carried by the Kaku's commissioning (besides maybe the Dauntless).
 * The kaku's belt was slightly thinner than the Lexs, 6.5-inches vs 5-7-inches, but their deck was much thicker at 2.6-5.2-inches vs the Lex's 0.75-2-inch deck.
 * Pretty much every source I've seen states the Lexingtons as 32.5 knot carriers, while the Kakus could make 34.6 knots
 * It's simple, the Shokakus were simply better carriers then Lady Lex and Saratoga. If you doubt this, just remember which ships sank USS Lexington.
 * Shokaku class aircraft carriers (naval-encyclopedia.com)-source Micheal Harrens (talk) 00:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

 * more armor? i went to check:

belt Lexinton 127mm Shokaku 45mm with 165mm over magazines deck Lexington 55mm Shokaku 100mm with 130mm over the magazines. more armament? Lexington and Saragota were converted battlecruisers and such they carried those big twin 203mm LA guns which were completely useless for a carrier. for heavy AA they carried 12 (single) 127mm guns. Shokakus on the other hand had 16 (8 double) 127mm thus their armament seems better. Loosmark (talk) 19:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

25mm guns
When Shokaku was sunk, her 25mm guns were 70. "96 25mm guns" is her sistership Zuikaku's datum at the Battle of Cape Engano(1944). Byouyou 22:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Navy link is dead. 199.48.74.226 (talk) 21:02, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:SIDS

Requested move 7 July 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 00:52, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Sudden infant death syndrome → SIDS – Like COVID-19, HIV/AIDS, MERS and SARS, this topic seems to be known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with this subject. The spelled-out term also seems like somewhat of a misnomer. A "syndrome" usually is a set of medical signs and symptoms, whereas this phenomenon has only one symptom – death, and the name refers to a diagnosis of exclusion rather than an identification of a particular disease or medical condition. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:19, 7 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc . talk  16:57, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

 * Support per nom. People typically say SIDS and abbreviate it as such. Clover moss  (talk) 07:54, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

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 * Support per nom. --Ortizesp (talk) 17:53, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Support SIDS is more common and widely understood. --Macrakis (talk) 19:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose on balance, both terms are present in almost all sources regarding this topic, and so we should continue to use the most informative title. I could give dozens of counter-examples to outweigh OP's short list of abbreviated topics, and I think an encyclopedia should maintain the formality of using expanded titles rather than shortcuts where both terms are used interchangeably. The only appropriate time to use an WP:ACRONYMTITLE is when the acronym is more dominant or used exclusively, and thats not the case for this topic. -- Netoholic @ 07:02, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Picardy (region)

Merge with Picardy
Isn't Picardy and Picardie the same place and the two articles need to be merged? -- 4.240.78.237 (talk) 19:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Nope. This is a region while the other is a historical province. They are somewhat different. See the talk on the other page as well. Smash bros master (talk) 22:35, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

extent
I know that the region includes part of historical Ile-de-France, but there are also parts of the historical Picardy that are not part of the region - the Boulonnais and the eastern part of the historical picardy are in Nord-Pas-de-Calais and Champagne-Ardenne respectively. Should this be noted in the "history" section? john k (talk) 22:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Merge redux
I know there was a merge proposal a few years ago, but I really think it needs to be discussed again. As a reader, it's incredibly confusing to a) notice and b) figure out the difference between a historical region and a current one (as evidenced by the fact that I began editing this article thinking it was woefully narrow in scope and only hours later realized there's another Picardy article... but I still can't figure out where some of the historical facts should go!). Both articles are fairly short, and I think they would both be improved by being combined into one complete GA- or FA-length article. If anyone cares and strongly objects, please speak up! Accedie talk to me  02:23, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

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Syndrome (disambiguation)

A syndrome is a set of medical signs and symptoms that are correlated with each other and, often, with a particular disease or disorder.

Syndrome may also refer to:
 * Syndrome decoding, in coding theory
 * Syndrome (The Incredibles), a fictional character
 * Syndrome (video game series)
 * Syndrome (TV series), a 2012 South Korean medical drama series
 * Syndrome (video game), a 2016 survival horror game for PC and consoles
 * Syndrome (album), a 2017 album by Chihiro Onitsuka

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