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Walken
I am looking for a segment of the film A View to a Kill, that has Christopher Walken dancing in the Marriot Hotel. Can anyone help me???

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 * That's not A View to a Kill. I think you're thinking of the music video for Fatboy Slim's single Weapon of Choice. K1Bond007 02:37, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * You gotta admit, though, it would have made AVTAK a heck of a better movie it if had been a scene! ;-) 23skidoo 03:30, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
 * It couldn't get any worse ;) K1Bond007 03:40, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Living Daylights script
I was the one who originally put in the trivia item about Living Daylights being written for Roger Moore. Although it may not be true I have seen this mentioned in a reference book on the Bond movies. Darned if I can remember which one -- possibly James Bond: The Legacy or perhaps even Benson's Bedside Companion. I think it was also mentioned during some behind-the-scenes featurette on the making of Living Daylights. 23skidoo 20:53, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Well I can tell you right now, it's false :) Moore retired in '85 and the first draft (there were 6 overall) of TLD is dated '86. Furthermore, the first draft of The Living Daylights was a "Bond Begins" treatment that saw Bond as a young lieutenant in the Royal Navy. This whole idea, inronically being talked about now for Casino Royale, was rejected by Broccoli who stated that the general audience didn't want to see Bond starting out; they wanted the older/professional James Bond that everyone knows and loves. The treatments that were along the lines of the finished script were written for a "generic" James Bond. LTK and GoldenEye were written for Dalton. K1Bond007 21:37, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Is this in the TLD article? It should be -- cool info. If I can track down the book that had the earlier information, I might put it back, if only to indicate that it has been debunked. I wish I could remember the book where I read that stuff about Moore. It was hardcover and it was a book on the Bond movies... methinks a trip to my public library is in my near future. 23skidoo 00:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Ready to retire edits
I chose to remove the recent "Ready to retire"-related edits for several reasons. For one, there's no reason to place this at the very beginning of the article, plus the quotes included were not cited or sourced. The image uploaded (which appears to show Patrick Macnee and Roger Moore walking down a road but to be honest the image was so tiny I could barely recognize them) does not appear to meet the Fair Use criteria that Wikipedia is using for images. Obviously the content added hasn't been permanently deleted and can be recovered from the History, but if restored it needs to formatted properly and sourced. 23skidoo 21:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Looked to be a copyvio, too. Written by a newspaper - or with a newspaper tone. Maybe a fan site or something. I agree with removing it. I think if the information can be properly cited then it can be included somewhere - certainly not at the top though. K1Bond007 21:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

 * The photo also appears here http://www.swindonweb.com/guid/renault.htm - "the Bond movie A View to A Kill featuring Roger Moore and Patrick Macnee was filmed at the Renault Building in 1983". also http://www.swindonweb.com/guid/connbond0.htm -- Beardo 05:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Moore didn't actually start filming till August 1984, but I guess that's beside the point. K1Bond007 05:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Soundtrack: A View to a Kill (soundtrack
On July 22nd as split tag  was placed in this article. Not a bad idea overall; if someone is willing to do the work, I’d support, but... Lacking any discussion pro or con for over 40 days, the recommendation is considered to have failed due to lack of support/interest. Skål - Williamborg (Bill) 04:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Adult portion
In the scene where Stacey Sutton realizes Zion's plan, she is shown walking without panties on and only wearing shirts. The pubic hair is visible to the camera. It is the scene where Stacey says, "I have to stop Zion". Should we put this into the Trivia section? lol. Reinn 06:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

 * No trivia. Come What May! Vikrant Phadkay 13:46, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

GA fail
Still, it's coming along okay. Maybe expand the lead and the article will be a fair GA. Alientraveller 14:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Walken being a fan of Shaw in From Russia With Love is uncited.
 * ✅ Vikrant Phadkay 15:47, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The second half of the filming section is uncited.
 * ✅ Vikrant Phadkay 15:47, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Those who disagree with it being the worst Bond film is traced to unreliable fan sources.
 * ✅ Vikrant Phadkay 15:47, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ Vikrant Phadkay 15:47, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Commercial Success
This article states that the film was a commercial success, but the soundtrack article states that it "underperformed commercially" (the movie itself, not the soundtrack). Which is correct? Cerdic 01:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Soundtrack said it wrong. The film did better than its two predecessors and all films before Moonraker. Vikrant Phadkay 17:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks for clearing that up. Cerdic 18:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

GA on hold

 * For the casting section, are the mentions of David Bowie and Sting included in the last reference. Even if they are it would be best to cite them multiple times because to me that seemed unbelievable. Also need to cite the quote.

 * The Max Zorin photo needs correct fair use rationales and may need to be removed from some other articles.

Besides those it looks good.  T Rex  | talk  05:19, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for fixing the problems. Keep up the good work.  T Rex  | talk  03:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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Mary Stavin?
Any reason why Mary Stavin isn't mentioned as being the Bond girl inn the teaser? I ask wondering if the consensus is to leave the teaser girl out of the articles. For some of the movies, she's not included while others do list them. --172.72.47.40 (talk) 17:58, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Rescuing from the burning state building scene
Who was that drunken man in the crowd? Why did he get so much focus on? Was he some famous person or a member of the filming group? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.190.161.115 (talk) 13:00, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * You mean the guy who nearly drops his bottle when Bond is coming down with Sutton? IMO he's just there to heighten the suspense. He's not listed anywhere that I can find - IMDB, Allmovie, Rotten Tomatoes, etc.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:27, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

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Plastic surgery
Should the article mention Roger Moore had a facelift and other cosmetic surgery before making this film? (2A00:23C4:6386:400:6C1E:3926:56DD:3E8E (talk) 14:57, 30 September 2017 (UTC))
 * Only if you can reliably source that the reason for the surgery was directly related to this film. Chaheel Riens (talk) 15:12, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

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Other cast credits
These are not mentioned in the opening credits and are placed here for filmography purposes:
 * Jean Rougerie fr as French private detective Achille Aubergine.
 * Daniel Benzali as W. G. Howe, a city official working at San Francisco City Hall.
 * Bogdan Kominowski as Klotkoff, one of General Gogol's KGB agents who is killed while infiltrating Zorin's oil rig.
 * Mary Stavin as Kimberley Jones, a British agent who assists Bond in the pre-credit sequence.
 * Dominique Risbourg as Butterfly Act Compere
 * Carole Ashby as Whistling Girl
 * Anthony Chin as Taiwanese Tycoon
 * Lucien Jerome as Paris Taxi Driver
 * Joe Flood as U.S. Police Captain
 * Gerard Buhr as Auctioneer
 * Dolph Lundgren as Venz, in an early, minor role as Venz, one of General Gogol's KGB agents.
 * Tony Sibbald as Mine Foreman
 * Bill Ackridge as O'Rourke
 * Ron Tarr as Guard I
 * Taylor McAuley as Guard II
 * Peter Ensor as Tycoon
 * Seva Novgorodtsev as Helicopter Pilot

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NDRC

NDRC may refer to:

 * National Development and Reform Commission, central planning agency in the People's Republic of China
 * National Defense Research Committee, a government body in the United States created in 1940 for funding scientific research for national security purposes.
 * National Digital Research Centre, a research and investment organisation in Dublin, Ireland, created in 2006
 * National Democratic Redistricting Committee, a United States Democratic Party political group focused on redistricting

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Tom Abernethy

Thomas Craig Abernethy (born May 6, 1954) is an American former professional basketball player. He played college basketball for the Indiana Hoosiers and won a national championship in 1976. Abernethy was selected by the Los Angeles Lakers in the 1976 NBA draft and played five seasons in the National Basketball Association (NBA) for the Lakers, Golden State Warriors and Indiana Pacers. He finished his career after playing in Italy for two seasons with Basket Brescia Leonessa.

Abernethy established the Indiana Basketball Academy which provides basketball skills training to children in Indiana.

High school career
Abernethy attended St. Joseph's High School in his hometown of South Bend, Indiana. He averaged 25.9 points per game as a senior and set the South Bend city scoring record with his 648 points. Abernethy led his team to 22 wins and a victory in the South Bend sectional championship.

The Indiana Hoosiers began recruiting Abernethy during his high school career. Head coach Bob Knight visited the Abernethy family at their house where he was grilled by Abernethy's mother about the recruitment of another player. Abernethy had wanted to attend Indiana University Bloomington even if he had not played basketball and ultimately committed to play for Knight with the Hoosiers.

College career
Abernethy joined the Hoosiers in 1972 and saw limited playing time during his first three seasons due to being on a stacked team. He became a focal point of the Hoosiers as a senior during the 1975–76 season where he was moved to the starting line-up and averaged 10 points and 5.3 rebounds per game. The Hoosiers won the 1976 NCAA Division I Basketball Tournament after compiling a 32–0 record; they remain the last team in college basketball to have an undefeated record.

Professional career
Abernethy was selected by the Los Angeles Lakers as the 43rd overall pick in the 1976 NBA draft. He played his first two seasons with the Lakers before he was traded to the Buffalo Braves in June 1978 for a second round pick. The following month, Golden State Warriors signed Abernethy from the Braves (now the San Diego Clippers) in return for another second round pick.

Abernethy played two seasons with the Warriors. He made a cameo appearance in the 1980 film Inside Moves where a Warriors game is depicted. In December 1980, Abernethy was waived by the Warriors and signed by the Indiana Pacers for the rest of the season.

Abernethy finished his career in Italy with Basket Brescia Leonessa.

Abernethy was inducted into the Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame in 2012.

Playoffs

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Post-playing career
After his playing retirement, Abernethy worked in commercial real estate until the 1990s. He served as a technical advisor on the 1986 film Hoosiers.

Abernethy created the Indiana Basketball Academy in 1995 which provides skills training for young players. It has been attended by over 25,000 children since its inception.

Personal life
Abernethy has three sons who all played college basketball. His twin sons, Andy and Matt, played for Bethel College and Grace College respectively. His youngest son, Todd, played for the Ole Miss Rebels and serves as an assistant coach for the Florida Atlantic Owls.

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Talk:Hong Kong and British nationality law

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BNO serves as a travel document and eventhen, there are so many restrictions when travelling with BNO. In short BNO passport holders are stateless.

Being one stateless, BNO holder, i fell that i have no national identity. When asked what is my nationlity, I state BNO, but what is BNO? Are BNO hodlers second class or even third class citizens that UK does not want to assume us as thier own? Are we just mere subjects that were / are trapped in a vacumm of history when the british empire was vast and in full force to optimize economic opportunities in the East. Are we so dispensible or product of historical exploitation and discrimination?

The British government should and must be rensponsible for the subjects that lived, abided and respected their laws.It should not be manipulated that all subjects holding BNO become unwanted product of convenience.

How and when will the British government address the issue of BNO holders right of claim for residency in the UK and the rights to protection form the UK government.

Annanomous The writer reflects his personal views and opinion. It is not a declared petition made collectively.

The original article BN(O) 15:34, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

British National (Overseas) passports are issued by the government of the United Kingdom. However, it does not confer the holder to the right of abode in the UK.

Main articles: British Nationality Law and British nationality law and Hong Kong

It does entitle the holder to British consular protection in most cases. However, for BN(O) passport holders who are co-holding PRC Citizenship, they cannot enjoy British consular protection inside the PRC (Mainland China and Hong Kong and Macau). However, it is not clear that whether BN(O)s can enjoy British Consular protection in Taiwan (the Republic of China).

For PRC citizens who also holds a BNO passport, their quasi-British passport is not acceptable for travel into the mainland of the People's Republic of China. No can visas be issued at the border on their BN(O). See Home Return Permit.

But the PRC issue visas for BN(O)s who does not hold PRC citizenship.

The BN(O) succedes the BDTC passports previously issued to Hong Kong residents. BDTC passports ceased to be valid when Hong Kong was transferred back to the PRC.

No new applications for BN(O) status will be accepted any more and BN(O) status cannot be passed on by descent.

Application for Renewal
British National (Overseas) passports holders can renew their passports in Hong Kong at the British Consulate general:

British Consulate-General No 1 Supreme Court Road Central Hong Kong (P O Box 528)

Short introduction
Many contents in this section are incorrect. 143.89.188.4

There are 6 types of British passports for non-British Citizens. See the article British nationality law for more information.

All these confusing names were created after the British Nationality Act in 1986, a consequence of the Joint Declaration.

BDTC and BN(O) are more related to HK people.

BDTC will cease to exist after 30 June 1997. After that date you can be either BNO or BOC (more later).

As from 1 July 1987, HK people can choose between BN(O) or BDTC.

To ensure BN(O) passport will be acceptable for the purpose of international travel and for the return to HK after 30 June 1997, the British and the Chinese Government have agreed that the BNO passport contain the following endorsement:-

"The holder of this passport has Hong Kong permanent         identity card number xxxx which states that the          holder has the right of abode in Hong Kong."

i.e. you MUST have a valid Hong Kong ID card to apply for BNO passport. That may not be a problem for people living in Hong Kong but for some people who does not have a valid HK ID card living overseas. There may be a slight problem. But it just take longer time.

BNO can be used even after 30 June 1997. So why people seems to reluctant to change their passport to BNO? And why the British government so eager to force HK people to accept BNO?

After 30 June 1997, BDTC does not exist. According to Hong Kong Immigration Department information I.D.639.

You may lose your British nationality on 1 July 1997 if you are a Hong Kong BDTC and you:- (a) have never held (or been included in) a BNO passport before that date; AND (b) have another nationality. ^^^^^^^

Hong Kong BDTCs who fails to obtain BN(O) passport before 1 July 1997 and who then have no other citizenship or nationality will automatically become British Overseas citizens (BOC) on 1 July 1997.

What you have to do, in principle, is not accepting BN(O) and renounce your Chinese citizenship and you do not have other citizenships (Canada, Australia, Fuji, Tongo ...). Then the British Government have to take you as BOC.
 * THERE IS THE OPTION OF BECOMING BOC***

(You should be solely British, including BN(O), before Feb, 1997 so to be eligible to apply for BOC status. Since the Chinese government considers all ethnic Chinese people to be Chinese citizen regardless of being born under the colonial rule, ethnic Chinese people are not eligible to apply for BOC status under normal cirsumstance. By the way, BN(O) is not stateless, nor is it Chinese; BN(O) is a British Citizenship although it does not entitle the holder to enjoy FULL citizenship rights, which is in itself a breach of Human Rights. The misconception of BN(O) being stateless or Chinese is owing to the 'propagenda' prevailed in Hong Kong. )  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.177.44.20 (talk) 21:48, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The Chinese Government, according to the Memorandum of the Joint Declaration, regards all HK Chinese have Chinese citizenship whether they hold BDTC or not; and the Chinese Government *allows* these Chinese citizens to use British issued "travel documents" to "travel". i.e. BNO in the eyes of Chinese government is a "travel document" not a citizenship. (No dual citizenship)

Holder of BN(O) *DOES NOT* have the protection of UK in overseas (overseas here have special importance here because Hongkong will not be under British rule after 30 June 1997.) nor you have the right of abode in Britain whereas BOC in Hong Kong and China *DOES* have the have protection of UK though you STILL DON'T have the right of abode in Britain.

Consider a hypothetical situation: If all HK Chinese take up BNO the British Government will not be responsible for us. On the other hand, if we all get BOC, the British Government is still liable to the request of protection from 3.5 millions (?) HK Chinese who are eligible to become BOC. A nightmare for the British Government. That may be the reason why the British so eager to ask you you to accept BN(O).

In short, BN(O) holders will be regarded as Chinese Citizen by both the Chinese and the British Government practically because you can't get protection from British. It merely a travel document (function like The Hong Kong Certificate of Identity ?).

You may not care about the so called "protection". The judgement is yours. After all, whatever name you call it BDTC, BN(O), BOC, they are just "second" class British citizenship.

Recently, the Legislative Council successfully lobbied the British Government not to force HK people to change *immediately* to BN(O) passport. But you still have to register for BN(O) passport and get one, i.e. if your BDTC passport valid thru 30 June 1997, you have *TWO* passports in hand, the current valid one, BDTC and the one takes effect immediately after BDTC expires on 30 June 1997. However, once you register for BN(O) passport, you essentially lose the option of BOC. So the British still get what they want you to do.

I don't know the latest development whether there are legislation to punish people not register for BN(O) passport. It is an interesting question whether this constitute a violation of human rights because we are denied the choose of BOC same as denied the choice of having big family because of one child policy.

The above discussion may look complicated. Here I draw a diagram to help people to understand.

now                 30 June 1997 |          <--- BNO ---+ BNO ---> |            Can choose BNO/BDTC. |                                    |  1. "travel document" only But now the British  |     not citizenship in the want you to take     |     eyes of Chinese Gov. BNO, even before     |  2. UK protection in          you BDTC expired. |    overseas. |                                |+- get BNO after 30 June 1997 ||        <--- BDTC -->|          OR                                  | BDTC expired after    +- get BOC if you do not get 30 June 1997          |  BNO before, renounce | Chinese citizenship, | and don't have other | citizenship (Canada, S. Africa...) | British still responsible for you. |                                 |           OR                                  | +- Loss your British nationality if you do not get BNO and have another nationality (most common case Chinese                                     nationality by default)

Standard disclaimer applied. This is not mean to be a legal documents. I try to present the facts as accurate as I can. Any mistake or interpretation is mine. Read the instructions carefully when you applied for /renew your passport.

More general questions on renew passport (where or how) should consult soc.culture.hongkong FAQ or call your nearest British Consulate.

Guidance Notes BNO and BDTC Application, overseas edition
This official application form was issued by the Hong Kong Immigration Department of the colonial Hong Kong Government.

INFORMATION ON BRITISH NATIONAL (OVERSEAS) PASSPORT AND HONG KONG BRITISH DEPENDENT TERRITORIES CITIZEN PASSPORT (For Overseas Applications)

BACKGROUND

1. The United Kingdom Memorandum associated with the Joint Declaration on the future of Hong Kong and the Hong Kong Act 1985 provide that British Dependent Territories citizens (BDTCs) by virtue of a connection with Hong Kong only will cease to be BDTCs on 1 July 1997; but they are entitled, on or before such dates as specified in the Hong Kong (British Nationtionality) Order 1986. to acquire a new form of British nationality known as British National (Overseas) (BN(O)), and to hold or be included in a British passport appropriate to that status.

2. The status of BN(O) can be acquired on and after 1 July 1987 and may be held for life. Hong Kong BDTC status will continue until 30 June 1997. If BDTC status is renounced by a BN(O) before that date, both statuses will be lost simultaneously.

3. As from 1 July 1987. two types of British passports, namely BN(O) passports and BDTC passports, may be issued to Hong Kong BDTCs. BN(O) passports have a full ten year validity while BDTC passports are valid up to ONLY 30 June 1997.

4. Hong Kong BDTCs who wish to travel on British passports beyond 1997 must apply for or be included in a BN(O) passport on or before the relevant dates as specified in the Hong Kong (British Nationality) Order 1986.

RETENTION OF BRITISH NATIONALITY

5. Under Article 3 of the Hong Kong (British Nationality) Order 1986, a person who is a British Dependent Territories citizen by virtue of a connection with Hong Kong only shall cease to be such a citizen on 1 July 1997. You may. however, retain British nationality beyond this date by applying for a British National (Overseas) passport on or before the following dates as specified in the Second Schedule to that Order:

Year of birth                       Final date for of BDTCs                            receipt Of applications -                       ---         1967 to 1971                         30th October 2993 1962 to 1966                        31st March 1994 1957 to 1961                        31st August 1994 1947 to 1956                        28th February 1995 Prior to 1947                       30th June 1995 1972 to 1976                        31st October 1995 1977 to 1981                        30th March 1996 1982 to 1986                        29th June 1996 1987 to 1991                        30th September 1996 1992 to 1995                        31st December 1996 1996                                31st March 1997 1997 (before l July)                30th September 1997

6. An application submitted after the relevant final date should be accompanied by written reasons explaining why the application has been made after the final date or why there are other special circumstances which would justify late registration and any documentary), evidence in support of those reasons.

7. Any Hong Kong British Dependent Territories citizen who does not obtain a British National (Overseas) passport and would otherwise become stateless on 1 July 1997 will automatically become a British Overseas citizen.

ENDORSEMENT ON BN(O) PASSPORT

8.  On 1 July 1987. the Hong Kong Government began to issue a new form of identity card. known as the Hong Kong permanent identity card which states that the holder has the right of abode in Hong Kong. These cards will remain valid after 30 June 1997 until such time as they are replaced by identity cards issued by the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (SAR) Government.

To ensure that BN(O) passport, will be acceptable for the purpose of international travel and for return to Hong Kong SAR after 30 June 1997. the British and Chinese Government have agreed that the BN(O) passport will contain the following endorsement:

"The holder of this passport has Hong Kong permament        identity card number (XYZ) which states that the holder         has the right of abode in Hong Kong."

Unless they already have Hong Kong permanent identity cards, all BN(O) passport applicants, as well as their children (irrespective of age) to be included in the BN(O) passport. should apply for a Hong Kong permanent identity card at the same time as they apply lot a BN(O) passport. This will enable the passport office to enter the endorsement on the BN(O) passport.

10. A Hong Kong permanent idemity card issued to a Hong Kong BDTC living abroad, who applies for a BN(O) passport. will be valid as long as the holder stays abroad. This identity card, however, must be renewed within 30 days after the holder's return to Hong Kong unless he/she is still under the age of 11.

11. Further information on permanent identity card registration is contained in the guidance notes obtainable from any Passport Office. British Embassy. British Consulate, British High Commission or the Hong Kong Immigration Department. 7 Gloucester Road. Wan Chai, Hong Kong.

FEATURES OF BN(O) PASSPORT AND BDTC PASSPORT

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PROCESSING TIME

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User talk:Wredlich

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"not a web directory" ??
I don't understand why you deleted my edits in the War on Drugs article. I added several sites that are highly relevant to the topic. You seem to say that Wikipedia is not a web directory, but there are a number of external links on that page that are less relevant to the topic.
 * Yes, that external links section is in severe need of a little cleanup, it's just that nobody's gotten around to it yet. If you want to volunteer that'd be great! --fvw *  03:20, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm picking nits, but I don't see why you decided to "clean up" my recent contributions (if that's an appropriate term) without removing other links. If external links are not a "web directory", then what is the purpose of external links? What makes a link worthy of being an "external link"?
 * I scan incoming edits and remove the ones that look like they're not going to improve wikipedia. It just happens that I was doign this when you added your link and not when others did so. Nothing personal. --fvw *  03:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Also, you removed my link on the Due Process page to my article on Substantive Due Process. I do think my discussion of substantive due process in the article is pretty thorough and worthwhile, if anyone wants to read more about the topic.
 * The link you added to due process was about the war on drugs, not about due process. --fvw *  03:29, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

No, the link I added was an 80-page pdf article about applying substantive due process analysis to the drug war. While the article does talk at length about the drug war, it also has an in-depth discussion of substantive due process, including the history of the doctrine, with an awful lot of endnotes referring to Supreme Court cases and law review articles on this topic. If someone wants to learn more about substantive due process, it can be a valuable resource. I admit a bit of authorial (is that a word?) pride here, but that doesn't mean it's not relevant to the topic.

 * Ok, how about a compromise: You figure out which parts are about due process and we list the page numbers after the external link so people don't have to search for the material themselves. Sound reasonable? --fvw *  03:38, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome but....
Welcome to Wikipedia, talking to someone on their first day is unusual for me. I'm happy to help with little editing chores and did a few things on your new articles to help them conform to common usage here. However, I have asked an administrator about the article -- which by your user name -- you created about yourself. These are usually considered "vanity articles" and are discouraged in the main encyclopedia. Wiki suggests that this information go on your User Page, where people can read about you as a person. The links to personal web sites are particularly appropriate on your User Page. So you may get a note from User:Mel Etitis about that article. I'll copy this note to his user page, so he will know we've been in touch. Hope to work with you again -- I do a lot of stuff on 19th century biographies! WBardwin 04:17, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

 * That was quick -- you might want to take the people stub marker off. That puts your private user page on a stub sorting list for editors.  Hope to talk to you soon.  WBardwin 06:10, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Wredlich,

I've been working to sort stubs and I noticed that your user page is marked as a bio-stub. This template is, however, only supposed to be used for Mainspace articles and not on user pages. I hope you wouldn't mind removing the stub tag from your user page. If you have any questions, feel free to leave them on my talk page.--Carabinieri 13:31, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

notability of Warren Redlich
Hi. I noticed you put a notability tag on my page. I noticed that other candidates for Congress in New York (and many other states) have pages describing their candidacy. I modelled mine on the challenger from a neighboring district.

Please let me know what your specific concerns are, and I will do my best to resolve them.

 * I'd be happy to explain why I put the notability tag on that page. At wikipedia, we have several guidelines for notability. In this case, the most relevant is Notability (people), which has a number of criteria with which it might be made clear that someone is notable. Of these, you seem unlikely to qualify as a political figure as defined in the guideline (bullets two and three), but may get in via the press coverage catchall (last bullet in that first list). If you have any weblinks to press coverage of yourself, that would be most helpful. If you qualify as notable under one of our criteria, it'd be a good idea to provide the evidence as such in the article itself (if you just put a bunch of weblinks to external coverage at the bottom, I can read them and reformat them as footnoted references).

 * You should also be aware of Candidates and elections. While it is only a proposed guideline, it is an indication of how the wikipedia community feels about an issue, and therefore some cite it in discussions. I'd suggest you also work on an article on the election itself. We don't have one yet, and that would be super-helpful. Since you are a candidate, you should know a lot about it. Finally, use caution when writing about yourself for wikipedia. We all have difficulties assessing our own biases when we write about our own accomplishments.--Kchase02 T 18:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Following up on the notability tag and your post on my user profile, I added external links from CNN and Washington Post from the 2004 election, and the Republican Liberty Caucus page showing my endorsement for 2006.

I'm going to post a comment on the proposed candidates and elections policy. One of my concerns as a challenger (both in 2004 and now) is that all sorts of institutions favor incumbents. If Wikipedia policy is that incumbents are eligible for a page, but challengers have to meet some extra test, then that is a pro-incumbent bias.

I don't think this is that big of a deal coming from Wikipedia, but it is a tremendous problem for challengers when it comes to newspapers and television. An incumbent shows up to a school, shakes a couple hands, and gets a front page article in the local paper. A challenger campaigns for 20 hours a week for a year and yet sees a media blackout. When name recognition is so important, the only way you can get it against this bias is by buying it -- and I don't think most regular people think that's so great a political system.

The challenger in the next district (NY-20) is getting some press and has raised a ton of $$, but I don't see why she deserves more coverage than my campaign. Under what principle does she deserve a Wikipedia page and I don't? And I think if you review her page, you might find some objectionable material about her opponent. My "opponent controversy" bit that you deleted (appropriately) was really just making fun of what was on her page (maybe I need to work on my sense of humor here).

Anyway, I will post some of this on the proposed candidates and elections discussion.{unsigned|Wredlich}

 * I appreciate your concerns about the challenges facing challengers, but inclusion of another challenger is not really a valid argument. As you've discovered, anyone can make a page on wikipedia, so the fact that a page exists on someone of questionable notability doesn't necessarily mean they are notable, it just means that no one has proposed it be deleted. Frankly, I'm not sure that the links to CNN and the Post really qualify as non-trivial. They're both basic candidate profiles, not articles. Did you get any coverage by the local media in which you were the primary subject of non-trivial news?

 * Lastly, a couple of favors. Could you just reply here (keeps it readable) and sign your post with four tildes ( ~ ) to insert your signature when you post on talk pages. Thanks!--Kchase02 T 02:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I just put up one local media article, but now that I know that's what you're looking for, I will add more. There were approximately 10 articles in our main local paper that were non-trivial. However, if this is a rule/policy, it simply reinforces the media bias against challengers. A much simpler rule would be that a candidate is notable if he/she gets on the ballot. In my case I was on the ballot last time so I should already be qualified. A new challenger might not be notable until they're on the ballot. I prefer a more open policy, but that might be a more clear line. Wredlich 02:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)Warren

Brief followup -- I tried to add links to actual local media articles, but they do not keep such content online for free. Instead I went to the media page from my 2004 campaign site (which is no longer indexed by the 2006 campaign site, but is still online and indexed by Google). WarrenWredlich 02:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Those media links should do it, I suppose, though don't be surprised if your page gets merged into the 2006 campaign page closer to election season. Yeah, I saw the note you put in at the proposed policy's talk page. It's a difficult issue, since voters should be able to hear from all serious challengers during campaigns, but it's the actions imcumbents take as actors in government that make them notable, and candidates obviously can't do that. Oh, one last thing you should be aware of is WP:AUTO. Not a warning, just an FYI and perhaps a suggestion.

 * This conversation has piqued my analytical interest in your campaign. Would you mind dropping me an email for things more appropriately discussed off-wiki?--Kchase02 T 03:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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Conservatório Dramático e Musical de São Paulo

The Conservatório Dramático e Musical de São Paulo (Musical and Dramatic Conservatory of São Paulo) was a conservatory for students of music in São Paulo, Brazil.

The Conservatory was founded on February 15, 1906, and inaugurated officially on March 12 of that year. In 1909 it moved to its last location on Avenida São João, downtown. Between 1981 and 1983 the building was renovated.

One of many post-secondary music schools in São Paulo, the Conservatory was known chiefly for its library of musical and dramatic scholarship, and its most famous alumnus, poet and musicologist Mário de Andrade, who studied piano and taught there for much of his life. Composer Clorinda Rosato also studied at the Conservatory.

In 2009, due to many financial problems, the conservatory was closed. Its building will be a part of a new construction, the Praça das Artes, which will be occupied by the artistic bodies of the Municipal Theater, its Schools of Music and Ballet, its museum and its technical center.


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Willa Shalit

Willa Shalit (born 1955) is an American social entrepreneur and strategic advisor. She is widely recognized for her work as an artist, theatre and television producer, photographer and author/editor.

Early life
Shalit was born in 1955 in New York City to film and book critic Gene Shalit and Nancy Shalit ( Lewis). Her parents were of Russian Jewish descent. Her name comes from the American author Willa Cather. She was born the second of six children. Shalit was raised in Leonia, New Jersey. Her father shielded the family from the public eye. Her brother, Dr. Peter Shalit is an internal medicine physician and the author of Living Well: The Gay Man's Essential Health Guide. Her uncle was Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Anthony Lewis; her aunt, and Lewis' widow, is retired Massachusetts Chief Justice Margaret H. Marshall, who wrote the decision in Goodridge v. Department of Public Health resulting in the world’s first ruling in a court of final appeal legalizing same sex marriage.

When Shalit was 15, she was raped at knifepoint. She said of the experience, "I learned that life can change in the blink of an eye and that security is very illusory. I also realized there are some experiences that require a lifetime to recover from." She explained that this understanding would prove to be deeply constructive, if cruel, training for finding common ground with the women of Rwanda.

She graduated from Saint Ann's School (Brooklyn) in 1974. In 1978, she graduated from Oberlin College with a degree in Classics. After graduating, she moved to Martha's Vineyard and partnered with artist Richard Lee to create masks.

Artist
Throughout the 1980s, Shalit created "lifecast" sculptures made from molds formed directly upon human faces and bodies. Her casts of five former United States presidents are in the collections of their respective presidential libraries. Other examples of her work are on display at the United States Olympic Committee's training center in Colorado Springs, Colorado, the Fogelson Library at the College of Santa Fe (now Santa Fe University of Art and Design), and the Jewish Guild for the Blind in New York City. She also created life casts for Muhammad Ali, Bill Gates, Clint Eastwood, Sting, civil rights leader Rosa Parks, choreographer Alvin Ailey, Isaac Stern, sculptor Louise Nevelson, prima ballerina Natalia Makarova and the 14th Dalai Lama.

In 1986, Shalit collaborated with Nobel Prize-winning author Toni Morrison and Gilbert Moses to design masks and costumes for Morrison’s play Dreaming Emmett, directed by Mr. Moses.

In 1994, Shalit and her lifecasting art were featured in the Emmy Award-winning television documentary, Willa: Behind The Mask.

She was artist-in-residence at the College of Santa Fe from 1989 to 1994.

In 1998, Shalit's exhibit "Incarcerated Women: A View From the Inside Out" was featured at the National Museum for Women in the Arts in Washington, DC. The installation displayed life-cast facial portraits of inmates from the Bexar County Adult Detention Center in San Antonio, Texas.

Producer
In 1985, Shalit produced James Lecesne's play One Man Band off-Broadway.

Shalit was the producer of the first anti-violence benefit performance of Eve Ensler's The Vagina Monologues with Whoopi Goldberg, Susan Sarandon, Winona Ryder, Calista Flockhart, Lily Tomlin and others. She also produced a 1997 reading of Eve Ensler's Necessary Targets at the Helen Hayes Theater Broadway starring Meryl Streep, Anjelica Huston, and Cherry Jones and the landmark V-Day 2001 performance in Madison Square Garden featuring Oprah Winfrey, Queen Latifah, Glenn Close, Claire Danes and many others. Shalit continued to produce the play in February 1998 in New York City, and during a second reading of the play at Kennedy Center for then First Lady Hillary Clinton starring Natalie Portman and Jena Malone. From 1999 to 2003 Shalit produced the play during the off-Broadway run at New York City's Westside Theater and later served as executive producer of the 2002 HBO film of the show. She was an executive producer of Until the Violence Stops, a documentary film about V-Day's 2002 activities.

She co-produced the 2002 off-Broadway run of Ensler's Necessary Targets, produced Carol Kaplan's play Jocasta Rising at the Artscape Theatre Centre in Cape Town, South Africa in 2004, and was an associate producer of the 2004 Broadway revival of August Wilson's Ma Rainey's Black Bottom starring Whoopi Goldberg.

Photographer
Shalit's photos of Afghanistan, Rwanda and Israel have been published in the Chicago Tribune, The New York Times, the International Herald Tribune, Parade magazine, Marie Claire magazine, O, The Oprah Magazine, and distributed by the Associated Press wire service.

Author and editor
Her 1992 book Lifecast: Behind the Mask (ISBN 0941831787) details her methods and experiences casting sculptures of the Dalai Lama and other notable persons. Proceeds from the book benefitted the Touch Foundation, which sponsors "Please Touch" exhibits of work for the blind and visually impaired.

In 2005, along with Yoko Ono, Shalit edited the HarperCollins book Memories of John Lennon; it features intimate glimpses from those who knew John, including Pete Townshend, Sir Elton John, and David Geffen, and artists who followed him such as Bono, Alicia Keys and Carlos Santana. The book also contains photographs from Annie Leibovitz.

Shalit edited Becoming Myself: Reflections on Growing Up Female, a collection of essays and reminiscences by notable women including Meryl Streep, Maya Angelou, and America Ferrera, that was published by Hyperion in April 2006.

Social entrepreneur
To bring economic advancement to women in post-trauma zones, Shalit has worked to create markets in the United States for products manufactured jointly by Palestinian and Israeli women, and by women survivors of the Rwandan genocide.

Shalit's company, Fair Winds Trading, became an importer of handmade goods from Rwanda and partnered with Macy's for the Rwanda Path to Peace project to market handwoven Rwandan baskets, including those made by Janet Nkubana's organization Gahaya Links, in the United States, and produced hand-beaded gemstone and glass bracelets in partnership with O, The Oprah Magazine. In 2015, Macy's and Rwanda Path to Peace celebrated a 10-year partnership.

In 2010, Fair Winds Trading launched the Heart of Haiti line working with Macy's and the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund. The line included handcrafted products made by Haitian artists and was part of an effort to help rebuild from the 2010 Haiti earthquake. Shalit organized a trip to Haiti where Macy's leaders, joined by Martha Stewart and Rachel Roy, met with local artisans. In 2010, Macy's was the biggest U.S. retailer selling handmade Haitian goods, followed by the West Elm and Anthropologie chains.

In 2011, Shalit co-founded the communications firm Road to Market, ltd where she develops global branding strategies and continues to work with social justice missions and worldwide movements.

Shalit also co-founded an online platform for women designers called Maiden Nation. The site features work designed by Rachel Roy, Lauren Bush, Yoko Ono, Gloria Steinem and Chan Luu.

When Shalit’s friend Anne Glauber was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in 2014, together they held an information-gathering meeting at the Roosevelt Hotel in New York, where they met with Dr. Allyson Ocean of New York-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medicine, Kerri Kaplan of the Lustgarten Foundation and others. The team developed Let’s Win - an online community for sharing new science-driven treatments to help patients and families fight pancreatic cancer. Shalit is the co-founder and digital director of Let’s Win.

Shalit serves as President of the Board for Indigenous Ways, an advocacy organization based in New Mexico. She also is a team member at 18by.vote, a non-partisan youth-led organization developed to support teenage voter registration and voting.

Philanthropist and activist
Shalit's Touch Foundation created an exhibit of touchable lifecasts of the faces of celebrities and other notable individuals, for the purpose of making those faces accessible to the blind and visually impaired, which toured American museums from 1990 to 2000, including the Philadelphia Museum of Art and the Memphis Brooks Museum of Art in Memphis, Tennessee.

Shalit was a member of the Board of Trustees at the College of Santa Fe from 1990 to 1995.

She co-founded V-Day with Ensler and served as its first executive director. V-day is a non-profit organization that distributes funds to grassroots, national, and international organizations and programs that work to stop violence against women and girls. During her time as executive director, Shalit traveled with Ensler on a "harrowing undercover journey" to chronicle the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan's fight against the Taliban in 2002. More than 2,000 members of this clandestine network provide shelter, education and medical services to Afghan women and girls—all in defiance of the Taliban.

Shalit served as a special advisor to the United Nations Development Fund for Women (UNIFEM) and The United Nations Ethical Fashion Initiative. In 2007, Shalit joined the Board of Directors of the Hadassah Foundation. She currently serves on the Board of the Israeli Palestinian Peace organization, American Friends of the Parents Circle, (Parents Circle Family Forum) and on the Advisory Board of Feminist.com.

in 2014, Shalit was one of the first sponsors of Women and Men as Allies, an initiative founded by Feminist.com in partnership with The Center for the Study of Men and Masculinities at Stony Brook University.

Awards
Women's eNews named Shalit one of "21 Leaders for the 21st Century" in 2006. The Holmes Report, a magazine for public relations professionals, gave a 2006 Superior Achievement in Branding and Reputation Award to Shalit's Rwanda Path to Peace project, which was also "highly commended" by the judges of the International Chamber of Commerce's 2006 World Business Awards in support of the United Nations Development Programme's Millennium Development Goals.

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Ivor Catt

Ivor Catt (born 1935) is a British electronics engineer known principally for his alternative theories of electromagnetism. He received a B.A. degree from Cambridge University, and has won the Electronic Design magazine's "best product of the year" award on 26 October 1989, after £16 million funding.

Biography
Ivor Catt was born in England and grew up on an RAF airbase in Singapore. He left the country, along with his mother and sister, just before the Japanese invasion in 1942. He did his National Service stationed in Germany. He won a State Scholarship in mathematics and then studied engineering at Trinity College, Cambridge.

Wafer scale integration
Catt developed and patented some ideas on Wafer scale integration (WSI) in 1972, and published his work in Wireless World in 1981, after his articles on the topic were rejected by academic journals. The technique, christened Catt Spiral, was designed to enable the use of partially faulty integrated chips (called partials), which were otherwise discarded by manufacturers.

In the mid-1980s, a British company Anamartic, funded by Tandem Computers and Sir Clive Sinclair among others, announced plans to manufacture microchips ("superchips") based on Catt's technology. The approach was reported to be revolutionary at the time, with predictions that it would enable construction of powerful super-computers from cheap, mass-produced components, and cheaper and faster replacements for magnetic disk memories. Anamartic introduced a solid-state memory, called the Wafer Stack, based on the technology in 1989 and the device won Electronic Product's 'Product of the Year Award'. However the company could not ensure a large enough supply of silicon wafers, which were crucial for its chip manufacturing, and folded in 1992.

On industrial management
Catt spent six years in the 1960s working in five different electronics companies in the USA. He was very disillusioned by his experience and wrote a harsh critique of American management practices in his book, The Catt Concept: The New Industrial Darwinism. Catt was critical of the hire and fire culture, which he labeled the New Social Darwinism, and accused American employers of stifling their workers' creativity. The book got largely negative reviews, with Kirkus Reviews describing it as a contrived and often muddled work that rested on "one man's bitter and limited experience." Published in six languages.

Censorship claims
His work has received coverage and debate in the magazines Wireless World and Electronics World from December 1978 to September 1988. New Scientist on 19 February 1989 stated that Catt proposed an electronic internet to share ideas and circumvent bigoted censorship.

Books

 * The Catt Concept: The New Industrial Darwinism, Putnam, 1971, ISBN 0-906340-15-2
 * Computer Worship, Pitman Publ., 1973 ISBN 0-273-00243-0
 * Digital Hardware Design (with David Walton, Malcolm Davidson), Macmillan, 1979, ISBN 0-333-25981-5

Self-Published

 * Electromagnetic Theory, C.A.M. Pub., 1983, ISBN 0-906340-03-9
 * Death of Electric Current: Wireless World Articles and Letters, C.A.M. Pub., 1987, ISBN 0-906340-06-3
 * The Catt Anomaly: Science Beyond the Crossroads, Westfields, 2001, ISBN 0-906340-15-2
 * The Hook and the Sting: The Legal Mafia, Westfields, 1996, 1996, ISBN 0-906340-09-8

Articles by Ivor Catt

 * Lynch, Arnold and Ivor Catt, "A Difficulty in Electromagnetic Theory," presented to and published by the Institution of Electrical Engineers, Professional Group D7 (History of Technology), 26th Weekend Meeting, 10–12 July 1998, University of East Anglia, publication HEE/26
 * Catt, I. The Two T.E.M. Signals, IEEE Computer Society, 1978, OCLC 35349268
 * Catt, I. "The Rise and Fall of Bodies of Knowledge", The Information Scientist, 12 (4) December 1978, pp. 137–144
 * Catt, I., Davidson, M., Walton, D.S.,"The history of displacement current," Wireless World, March 1979
 * Catt, I., Davidson, M., Walton, D.S., "Displacement current", Wireless World, December 1978
 * Catt, I., 'Crosstalk (Noise) in Digital Systems,' IEEE Trans. on Elect. Comp., vol. EC-16 (December 1967) pp. 749–58.
 * Catt, I. 'Death of Electric Current,' Wireless World, December 1980
 * Catt, I. 'The End of the Road,' Electronics World, April 2013

Articles Referring to Ivor Catt

 * Cook, Nigel, "Air traffic control: how many more air disasters?", Electronics World, January 2003, pp. 12–17 [
 * Cook, Nigel, "An Electronic Universe", Electronics World, Part 1: August 2002 (4 pages), Part 2: April 2003 (6 pages)
 * "Depending on who[m] you talk to in the generally conservative semiconductor industry, Catt is either a crank or a visionary. For 20 years, he has been refining the theoretical foundations for a revolution in the semiconductor industry ...." – "On the importance of being creative; Innovative thinkers should be allowed to come to the fore", New Scientist, 12 June 1986, p35
 * Sinclair, Sir Clive,
 * ".... Ivor Catt, an innovative thinker whose own immense ability in electronics has all too often been too far ahead of conventional ideas to be appreciated: significantly, Catt is beginning to get some high-level backing from companies who see the possibility of major breakthroughs from his work ('Wafers herald new era in computing', New Scientist, 25 February 1989)." – New Scientist, 25nov89, p75.

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Ampullae of Lorenzini

Ampullae of Lorenzini (: ampulla) are electroreceptors, sense organs able to detect electric fields. They form a network of mucus-filled pores in the skin of cartilaginous fish (sharks, rays, and chimaeras) and of basal bony fishes such as reedfish, sturgeon, and lungfish. They are associated with and evolved from the mechanosensory lateral line organs of early vertebrates. Most bony fishes and terrestrial vertebrates have lost their ampullae of Lorenzini.

History
Ampullae were initially described by Marcello Malpighi and later given an exact description by the Italian physician and ichthyologist Stefano Lorenzini in 1679, though their function was unknown. Electrophysiological experiments in the 20th century suggested a sensibility to temperature, mechanical pressure, and possibly salinity. In 1960 the ampullae were identified as specialized receptor organs for sensing electric fields. One of the first descriptions of calcium-activated potassium channels was based on studies of the ampulla of Lorenzini in the skate.

Evolution
Ampullae of Lorenzini are physically associated with and evolved from the mechanosensory lateral line organs of early vertebrates. Passive electroreception using ampullae is an ancestral trait in the vertebrates, meaning that it was present in their last common ancestor. Ampullae of Lorenzini are present in cartilaginous fishes (sharks, rays, and chimaeras), lungfishes, bichirs, coelacanths, sturgeons, paddlefishes, aquatic salamanders, and caecilians. Ampullae of Lorenzini appear to have been lost early in the evolution of bony fishes and tetrapods, though the evidence for absence in many groups is incomplete and unsatisfactory.

Anatomy
Each ampulla is a bundle of sensory cells containing multiple nerve fibres in a sensory bulb (the endampulle) in a collagen sheath, and a gel-filled canal (the ampullengang) which opens to the surface by a pore in the skin. The gel is a glycoprotein-based substance with the same resistivity as seawater, and electrical properties similar to a semiconductor.

Pores are concentrated in the skin around the snout and mouth of sharks and rays, as well as the anterior nasal flap, barbel, circumnarial fold and lower labial furrow. Canal size typically corresponds to the body size of the animal but the number of ampullae remains the same. The canals of the ampullae of Lorenzini can be pored or non-pored. Non-pored canals do not interact with external fluid movement but serve a function as a tactile receptor to prevent interferences with foreign particles.

Electroreception

The ampullae detect electric fields in the water, or more precisely the potential difference between the voltage at the skin pore and the voltage at the base of the electroreceptor cells.

A positive pore stimulus decreases the rate of nerve activity coming from the electroreceptor cells, while a negative pore stimulus increases the rate. Each ampulla contains a single layer of receptor cells, separated by supporting cells. The cells are connected by apical tight junctions so that no current leaks between them. The apical faces of the receptor cells have a small surface area with a high concentration of voltage-dependent calcium channels (which trigger depolarisation) and calcium-activated potassium channels (for repolarisation afterwards).

Because the canal wall has a very high resistance, all the voltage difference between the pore of the canal and the ampulla is dropped across the 50 micron-thick receptor epithelium. Because the basal membranes of the receptor cells have a lower resistance, most of the voltage is dropped across the excitable apical faces which are poised at the threshold. Inward calcium current across the receptor cells depolarises the basal faces, causing a large action potential, a wave of depolarisation followed by repolarisation (as in a nerve fibre). This triggers presynaptic calcium release and release of excitatory transmitter onto the afferent nerve fibres. These fibres signal the size of the detected electric field to the fish's brain.

The ampulla contains large conductance calcium-activated potassium channels (BK channels). Sharks are much more sensitive to electric fields than electroreceptive freshwater fish, and indeed than any other animal, with a threshold of sensitivity as low as 5 nV/cm. The collagen jelly, a hydrogel, that fills the ampullae canals has one of the highest proton conductivity capabilities of any biological material. It contains keratan sulfate in 97% water, and has a conductivity of about 1.8 mS/cm. All animals produce an electrical field caused by muscle contractions; electroreceptive fish may pick up weak electrical stimuli from the muscle contractions of their prey.

The sawfish has more ampullary pores than any other cartilaginous fish, and is considered an electroreception specialist. Sawfish have ampullae of Lorenzini on their head, ventral and dorsal side of their rostrum leading to their gills, and on the dorsal side of their body.

Magnetoreception
Ampullae of Lorenzini also contribute to the ability to receive geomagnetic information. As magnetic and electrical fields are related, magnetoreception via electromagnetic induction in the ampullae of Lorenzini is possible. Many cartilaginous fish respond to artificially generated magnetic fields in association with food rewards, demonstrating their capability. Magnetoreception may explain the ability of sharks and rays to form strict migratory patterns and to identify their geographic location.

Temperature sense
The mucus-like substance inside the tubes was thought in 2003 perhaps to function as a thermoelectric semiconductor, transducing temperature changes into an electrical signal that the animal could use to detect temperature gradients. A 2007 study appeared to disprove this. The question remained open, and in 2023 it was predicted that the ampullae of Lorenzini in sharks would be able to detect a temperature difference of 0.001 Kelvin (a thousandth of a degree). An artificial sensor using the same principle is able to detect a difference of 0.01 Kelvin.

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries/Archive3

That was the tip of the iceberg
I've just gone through the whole of that list unearthed by BlankVerse... I think I need to go and have a lie down now. The following are 30 previously undiscovered stub templates:

MTR stub and KCR stub
Two new stubs on different Hong Kong transportation networks, created by our old friend Instantnood. Surely these would better have been served by a single template/category, rather than two separate ones? Also the names are not that hot - firstly the TLAs mean different things in different countries (I instantly wondered why the Motor Traders Association should have a stub category), and secondly, there's no hyphen, so that's another blow against the hoped-for uniformity. Grutness...  wha?  01:38, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The first was created by User:PZFUN, and the latter by User:Secfan. I guess neither of them have ever been involved in this WikiProject. The two stub templates are for anything related to the two metro networks, the light rail network by KCRC, property development (e.g. housing blocks, shopping centres) and anything else related to the two companies (e.g. investment overseas). Basically almost all stations are still stubs, but not all of them have been tagged with one of the two templates.  — Instantnood 08:51, May 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the misattribution (you must have added the categories later, I think...). Still think they'd have done better with one template covering both, though. Grutness...  wha?  05:49, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I discovered the MTR template with no category (not the one for KCR), and therefore I created it. — Instantnood 12:58, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

FR-stub
FR stands for Forgotten Realms (a Dungeons & Dragons setting). This stub has 18 articles in its associated category and has been around since May 15. --Allen3 talk July 6, 2005 01:29 (UTC)
 * FR has also been used for France previously (it's the standard ISO code), and could stand for any of a number of other things (clergymen, for instance, or Frame Relay technology). So the name's pretty awful to start with. Then there's the use of it - why would we have a stub type for one D&D setting when we haven't even got a separate D&D stub? (Come to think of it, an RPG-stub might be quite useful). Grutness...  wha?  6 July 2005 01:36 (UTC)
 * During a scan of titles in Category:Game stubs I recognized 48 stubs for RPGs (mostly D&D and World of Darkness). Combining these with the 18 above leads me to beleive that a stub for RPGs has real potential to be useful (there were a lot of titles in the game category I did not recognize).  --Allen3 talk July 6, 2005 02:43 (UTC)
 * A Fantasy-rpg-stub or simple Rpg-stub could be useful, then; the problem is the redundancy with fantasy-stub, as some elements of the Rpg's have been crafted into books et. al. (e.g. Drizzt Lectonar 13:42, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Now has over 100 articles(!). Agree this should be turned into a redirect to a less terrible name.  I've made this a sub-category of rpg-stub.  Alai 07:13, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

SA Route Stub
Steel yourself... it's hard to find a single thing right about this one. Malformed name, feeds into two categories (South Africa stubs and Road stubs) but doesn't have one of its own. used on a mind numbing 160 articles (2/3 of the total number in Category:South Africa stubs) each of which is a one line article best served as part of a list. If it wasn't so much work I'd be sending all the articles over to vfd for merging. This is very depressing. Grutness...  wha?  12:55, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Video game music composer-stub / No associated category
Created by User:Tedius Zanarukando on the 17th of June. Used by 4 articles according to "What links here". --TheParanoidOne 5 July 2005 21:50 (UTC)
 * Sometimes you gotta wonder why people go to the effort. --YixilTesiphon July 8, 2005 23:21 (UTC)

Ayyavazhi-stub
Haven't a clue. Seems to be religion related, and have about 50 articles. Anyone know anything about this one? Grutness...  wha?  06:15, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * It's a Tamil Hindu sect and its up to 70 stubs now. Unless I get some negative feedback, I'll add it in a week to the main list.  I've already recatted it from Religion stubs to Hindu-related stubs. Caerwine 22:17, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Looney-tunes-stub
I found Looney-tunes-stub (Category:Looney Tunes stubs) on 21 July 2005; I added it (along with Hanna-Barbera-stub) to WP:WSS/ST. The Looney Tunes template was created on July 19 2005 by Roadrunner3000. Category:Looney Tunes stubs is a subcategory of Category:Animation stubs, and it has 17 articles. I also removed cartoon-stub and replaced it with animation-stub on WP:WSS/ST because the cartoon stub is now a redirect. In addition, I added the redirect information to WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Stub_redirects. — Fingers-of-Pyrex 21:12, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Saudi-stub
For articles to do with Saudi Arabia. leads to the well-formatted Category: Saudi Arabia stubs, which has 22 articles already, even though this was only created today. Should get enough articles to reach criterion level, but it would have been nice if this had been debated first! I've left a note on its creator User:Eagleamn's talk page. Grutness...  wha?  07:18, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Netherlands-rail-stub / Category:Netherlands rail stubs
Seems to have been created out of process, used in only 5 articles. Created last Saturday by User:Our Phellap. Aecis 11:26, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Well yes and no. There was discussion of this one on the Proposals page, though the discussion was a bit ambivalent as to whether it should be made immediately or after a count to see whether it was needed. Looks like OurPhellap has gone ahead anyway. Probably won't be too much harm in it, but it'll be worth watching to see whether it grows or stagnates. Grutness...  wha?  13:05, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Submarine-stub / Category:Submarine stubs
Apparently created out-of-process, but has 30 articles. I went ahead and added it to Category:Stub categories and Category:Submarines, but other than that it looks fine. Might have hard time getting too many more articles, tho. --Mairi 20:41, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
 * This is one type of "Sub stub" that can probably stay :) Grutness...  wha?  00:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

dinosaur-stub / Dinosaur stubs
Created by User:Agentsoo on 3rd August. Used on ~30 stubs. Added to stub types list today. Well formed as far as I can see. --TheParanoidOne 20:11, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
 * It was also lacking any parent categories in the stub hierarchy, but I want ahead and added them. --Mairi 20:23, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Looks fine, but I hope whoever sorts into this knows what prehistoric reptiles are or aren't dinosaurs. No pterodactyls, ichthyosaurs or mammal-like reptiles, please! (That was part of the reason WP:WSS decided against creating this category in the past!) Grutness...  wha?  05:54, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Belgium-bio-stub
Created a couple days ago, lacks a category. Not sure if it'd be useful. --Mairi 04:50, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Might be - there are probably quite a lot in the artist-stubs, to start with. Grutness...  wha?  07:21, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * And what about Category:Belgium-related stubs? Aecis 13:31, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * There are many Belgian biography stubs in the subcategories of Category:Belgian people by occupation, so this stub template and category might be viable. I don't yet know just how many stubs there are though. Aecis 22:01, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Golfbio-stub
This one was created on 22 June 2005. It is poorly formed. User:Somaliafriend asked how to create it at Talk:Golf, and User:Redux informed him how. There are currently three articles with this stub tag. Somaliafriend hasn't edited anything since 22 June 2005. There was a related comment by User:Grutness at WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Discoveries regarding Golf-stub. There are now 106 articles in golf-stub. There might be a ton of articles over at sportbio-stub to justify Golfbio-stub (and certainly it would help sportbio), but if we keep Golfbio-stub it needs to be formed better. --Durin 16:33, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I've fixed this as best I can (still a bit cack-handed on some of these markup thingies). I'd suggest it be kept, as sportbio looks to be in urgent need (I can't tell how many there are likely to be, but if it's even a few percent...)  Alai 22:30, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I've changed the category name to something a little better. Other than that it looks fine. Grutness...  wha?  01:00, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Estonia-geo-stub and Belarus-geo-stub
Sigh. Two more geo-stubs discovered. Both nicely formed and populated with some of the stubs from these countries that exist (I've added the rest). In the case of Estonia there's no problem, it's well populated with 80 stubs. Belarus didn't look too viable at first, but there are more stubs than I remembered now that I've gone through Euro-geo-stub (close to 50). Still not enough that it would have been made, but probably enough not to be sent over to Stub Types for Deletion. Grutness...  wha?  05:49, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Teesside-geo-stub
New creation, with no category. Refers to some urban area in England. My hunch is that it ought to be deleted since it seems to go against our current splitting of England-geo-stub by county, but I let someone who knows more about English geography decide whether to put it on WP:SFD... --Mairi 17:28, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 * A definite SFD - As per Wikipedia policy on counties, items are being split according to the ceremonial counties - Teesside is not a ceremonial county iand is already covered by the Durham and Yorkshire stubs. Grutness...  wha?  01:35, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

jazz-stub / Jazz stubs
Added today to Category:Musician stubs. Approximately 70 articles, which seem to be about Jazz musicians, rather than just Jazz. --TheParanoidOne 16:39, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Not really a discovery - this one's gone through the process at WP:WSS/P - admittedly it's been made a few days early, but it's more-or-less sanctioned. Not sure what to do with the musicians in it, though. Grutness...  wha?  01:44, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, I see it now. I must be going blind! --TheParanoidOne 05:29, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

United States Armed Forces-stub
Seems to be connected to WikiProject United States Armed Forces. --Joy [shallot]   22:45, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * sigh. useful, but horribly named. Do we have a US-mil-stub? If so, I'd redirect it there, if not, I'd rename this one. And, of course, tell the WikiProject. Shame about the project's acronym. USAF-stub would have been a good name, but it would ignore the army and navy! Grutness...  wha?  01:28, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
 * We definitely need US-mil-stub. I've seen boocoodles of United States-related stubs and Military stubs that would go into it. I'll propose it. — Fingers-of-Pyrex 17:07, September 7, 2005 (UTC)

SP-stub
Like to guess? South Park. I've renamed this one to SouthPark-stub, as per our naming guidelines, and it will probably be useful, give the amount of South Park cruft out there, but - yet again - it would have been nice if the person who made this had gone through process. Grutness...  wha?  01:37, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Surrey-geo-stub / Category:Surrey geography stubs
Not discussed on WP:WSS/P, but Grutness's counts indicate that it has 74 articles, so it'd be worth keeping. Looks well formed. --Mairi 01:51, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Still, as you say, it would have been split off eventually. I was going to start the next split today, but I'll fill this one instead - the others can wait for a while. Grutness...  wha?  07:28, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Croatia-stub / Category:Croatia-related stubs
Created today and added to WP:WSS/ST, but not proposed. Has 14 articles at present. --Mairi 01:51, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Currently has 55 articles. It shouldn't be too much of a problem to expand it. It would have been nice if it had been proposed though. Aecis 18:34, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Netherlands-stub / Category:Netherlands-related stubs
Jolly darn logical, category looks fine, and is even the supercat of some other out-of-process stub categories (not of the -geo-stub, though). No template, though, and (hence!) no articles, though a small number "mis-point" to the non-template. Hrm, seemingly this was deleted some time ago. Perhaps this should be (re-)created, and the sub-cat templated redirected to it pro temps, if population is going to be an issue? Alai 06:11, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea, if it's fixed up. I haven't been around long enough to know why it was deleted in the first place, though. --Alynna 00:56, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The reason it was deleted is that it seems to have been like the recent User:Maoririder stubs - one sentence with no link to a category. It seems to have been speedily deleted by User:Duncharris without having gone through the SFD or TFD process only two days after it was created. Coincidentally I proposed the creation of just this stub type a couple of days ago. Grutness...  wha?  05:27, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Kansas-geo-stub / Category:Kansas geography stubs
Newly created; used on 14 articles (which is a few more than Grutness's last count). Category lacks any stub category parents. --Mairi 06:17, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The others couldn't have been previously marked US-midwest-geo-stub. Kansas is one of the least populous states, stub-wise. I suppose we can keep it around and see if it grows, but it's a shame it got made when it was the just about the least deserving. Still, at least it wasn't Delaware. Grutness...  wha?  06:37, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Correction - almost all of these are new stubs, created in the last 24 hours. Only one of the ones I listed has made its way into the new category (something I'm about to remedy). If the number of stubs keeps increasing at this rate, perhaps it will be viable soon after all. Grutness...  wha?  06:43, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Wwiair-stub/Category:Wwiair-stub
Two articles, created on July 14th, by User:FranksValli 02:58, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
 * If, as I suspect, this is for WWI air-related stubs, it at the very least needs a clearer name - especially the category. Given that there are currently 53 stubs in, it doesn't really need splitting at the moment, either. And only has eleven articles other than air aces (stubs about whom would be bio-stubs anyway). Unnecessary. Grutness...  wha?  04:34, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Canada-poligeo-stub / Category:Canadian political geography stubs
Created in the past day; unused. Well formed, a side from certain definitional issues. Political geography seems abit vague (based on that article, which could use some cleanup), but the stub category seems primarily intended for electoral districts, and local/regional politics. A stub for one of those might be useful, but Category:Canada politics stubs has only 161 articles at present. --Mairi 05:26, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, if it's unused it doesn't have any articles. Canada's geography - as far as stubs are concerned - is thoroughly covered by division on a provincial level. This stub type cuts straight through that in the worst possible way. Grutness...  wha?  06:32, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I meant to link Category:Canada politics stubs instead in the last sentence, as that's what I was refering to (and I've fixed it to that now). --Mairi 07:08, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
 * That makes more sense - I tried Category:Canadian political geography but it didn't exist! Grutness...  wha?  07:34, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Firstly, my apologies for running afoul of this WikiProject. Allow me to plead ignorance for violating general protocol.  Anyway, Mairi is largely correct—it's a constituency stub, essentially, with a broader name so some other articles could find their way in there that aren't specifically about indivdual constituencies but still concern geographic-based political trends.  (I've been meaning to write a 905 belt article for some time now, which is a good example that any Canadian would understand.  I supposed analagous articles from other countries would be titles like Red state or Rotten borough.)  Interestingly, the articles I'm hoping to move into this new stubcat are scattered at present, with the majority (wrongly) placed in  .  That category is presently oversized, and should ideally only concern articles related to the mechanics and institutions of the Canadian government/the civil service etc. -The Tom 00:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * It's not clear to me that they're in that category wrongly, but I agree that it's oversized, and that this would be a fairly logical split. By a quick eyeball, it certainly looks viable.  So you're a good deal less afoul than many. :)  I suggest it be supercatted as both of the above stub types, for clarity.  Alai 01:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

India-university-stub / Category:India university stubs
Wasn't proposed, but other than that looks fine. Well formed, and filled with 70 articles (despite being created today). I've gone ahead and added it to WP:WSS/ST. --Mairi 05:30, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable - definitely needs a split, and India would be one of the most logical ones to split off (Africa, China and Japan would probably also be useful). Grutness...  wha?  06:07, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Polymer-stub / Category:Polymer stubs
Newly created. No idea if it will have an audience; have asked the author. --Joy [shallot]   22:23, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure this was proposed at WP:WSS/P and there were no objections. Grutness...  wha?  01:26, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * It was (on 5 Spetember 2005). I'll be populating it this weekend when I go through Chem-stub. Physchim62 08:08, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Yep, as it turns out, I'm on crack. :) Nevertheless, there should be a projection of how many stubs will end up in this category. --Joy [shallot]   09:16, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Hard to say. There are probably about 50 stubs sitting in Chem-stub to be moved here straight away, that depends what sort of shape that category is in after the summer. There is also the new WikiProject Polymers which is trying to rationalise Wikipedia treatment of this area and which will doubtless produce stubs on the way (as well as treating them, of course). So lets say 50-100 in the short to medium term. Physchim62 18:17, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 50 plus, and a wikiproject. That should be fine. Grutness...  wha?  00:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 76 now that I've done the clear-out of chem-stub. Physchim62 16:56, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Australia-road-stub
Apparently, for the last three months we've had a. it would have been very nice if its creator had let us know. It had a template AU-road-stub which I've moved to Australia-road-stub,a s per our naming conventions (I'm taking the original name to SFD...) Grutness...  wha?  13:27, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Climbingbio-stub / Category:Climbing biography stubs
Created 3 days ago, used on 50 articles. I've added it to WP:WSS/ST given it's current size. --Mairi 04:42, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Vabio-stub / Category:Biography of Virginians stubs
Even if we want to divide US-bio-stub by state, there are so many things wrong with this stub type. Both the category and template greatly need renaming. The category needs parent categories, and the template has some formatting issue that causes the text to wrap. --Mairi 02:57, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Allez au SFD, je pense. Grutness...  wha?  06:57, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Category:Deprecated stubs
Category:Deprecated stubs was intended to perform the same function as Category:Stubs, but I didn't realize the latter category already performed that function. With all the different "for Deletion" rules and types, I have no idea where to put this these days. Sadly, gone are the days when would suffice. Adraeus 02:26, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I think you mean thankfully those days are gone. They were a nightmare as far as incorrect stub categories. It's still a pretty straightforward system now, but much more efficient - WP:SFD is what you want. Grutness...  wha?  03:33, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy deletion would also work, either because it was created by mistake, or for being empty for 24 hours. --Mairi 04:22, 30 September 2005 (UTC)


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User:Haroldinatily

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User talk:Haroldinatily

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After talking it over on IRC, I think it's better that we call this guy a "historian". Remember that categories are meant to be a nvagational aid and that "postmodern historigrapher" seems a big narrow. I'm going to replace the cat and the stub template now.  Sasquatch  t|c 02:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi, there's a big difference between an historian and an historiographer. Couldn't a category "historigraphers" go inside a broader category such as Category:HistoriosophyHaroldinatily 02:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

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