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Karel van Wolferen

Karel van Wolferen (born 1941) is a Dutch journalist, writer and professor, who is particularly recognised for his knowledge of Japanese politics, economics, history and culture.

Career as journalist, writer and academic
After finishing high school, he traveled to the Middle East, India and South East Asia, and from 1962 to the 1990s, he was based in Japan. In 1972, he became a correspondent for the authoritative Dutch daily NRC Handelsblad, reporting from many countries in Asia. In 1987, he received the highest Dutch award for journalism for his articles on the People Power Revolution of 1986 in the Philippines (an uprising that forced President Ferdinand Marcos to flee the country).

His book writing career began in 1969, when he was commissioned to do a study on student radicalism in the West. The result was published as Student Revolutionaries of the Sixties, reviewed by the International Herald Tribune as "the best introduction to the subject".

After a career as foreign correspondent, he wrote The Enigma of Japanese Power, first published in 1989, which has sold well over 650,000 copies in 11 languages. In Japan this book received enormous attention. The Asahi Shimbun called it "an elaborate and persuasive study, sharply and careful analyzing a multitude of aspects of Japanese reality". The Financial Times wrote, "This most thoughtful of books works because it is serious, well informed and, above all, objective".

Since writing Enigma, van Wolferen has authored more than 15 books published in Japanese that explore details of political, economic, social and historical aspects of the Japanese power system. His books have sold more than one million copies altogether. His analyses and policy suggestions have influenced Japanese critics and policymakers, including the reformist politicians who emerged after the election upset in 1993. Some of the same politicians now form the core of the Democratic Party of Japan that won elections in 2009.

He was made University Professor of Comparative Political and Economic Institutions at the University of Amsterdam in 1997. Since then he has continued to write books and articles for Japanese readers. He divides his time between East Asia and the Netherlands.

In 2005, together with NRC Handelsblad reporter Jan Sampiemon, Van Wolferen wrote Een keerpunt in de vaderlandse geschiedenis (Dutch: "A turning point in the history of the fatherland"). Its secondary title is "A manifesto to the Dutch people".

Despite the 'fatherland' in the title referring to the Netherlands, the book is mostly about the changes in the foreign policies of the United States since the presidency of George W. Bush and its effects on the Atlantic Alliance.

Political views since the 1990s
Van Wolferen rejects the global political role of the US since the 1990s and criticizes, particularly in the Russo-Ukrainian War, both the lack of objectivity and independence of European countries and the coordination of the media in their adaptation to the political objectives of the United States.

Van Wolferen believes the terror attacks on 9-11 and MH17 were false flag attacks and believes Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and globalresearch tell the truth on these topics. He also believes the official clarifications about 7 July 2005 London bombings and Charlie Hebdo are polluted with misinformation.

In 2020 Van Wolferen founded conspiracy newspaper Gezond Verstand (Common Sense), which among others claimed the COVID epidemic was fabricated. The University of Amsterdam officially distanced itself from their former employee after its publication, citing Van Wolferen was "ruining the trust in scientific research and the spread of factual information, for example when it comes to Corona." Van Wolferen claimed journalists accusing him of spreading conspiracies are "executing orders from the CIA".

Published books

 * Student Revolutionaries of the Sixties – 1970, Oost-West Publishing
 * Van Eyck to Brueghel, the Renaissance of the North – 1970, Tudor Publishing Company
 * Ooggetuigenverslag van een Wonderbaarlijke Omwenteling: De revolutie van Marcos tot Aquino

Translated Dutch title: Eyewitness Account of a Remarkable Turn: The Revolution from Marcos to Aquino – 1987, NRC Handelsblad

 * Nihon / kenryoku-kōzō no nazo – 1990, Hayakawa Shobō (Japanese translation by Masaru Shinohara)

English title: The Enigma of Japanese Power – 1989, Alfred A. Knopf

 * Nihon wo dō suru!? Akirameru mae ni, 144 no gimon

Translated Japanese title: ''What to do with Japan!? Before giving up, examining 144 issues'' – 1991, Hayakawa Shobō (Japanese translation by Masaru Shinohara)

 * Tami wa oroka ni tamote - Nihon kanryō, daishinbun no honne

English title: Keeping the People Ignorant: The Hidden Agenda of Japanese Bureaucrats and News Papers – 1994, Shōgakukan (Japanese translation by Masaru Shinohara)

 * Ningen wo kōfuku ni shinai Nihon to iu shisutemu

English title: The False Realities of a Politicized Society – 1994, Mainichi Shinbun Sha (Japanese translation by Masaru Shinohara)

 * Nihon no chishikijin e

English title: To the Japanese intellectuals – 1995, Mado Sha (Japanese translation by Hiroshi Nishioka, Yasuo Nakamura and Masaru Shinohara)

 * Shihaisha wo shihai seyo - senkyō / senkyōgo

English title: How to Control Japanese Power Holders; The Election and What Comes After It – 1996, Mainichi Shinbun Sha (Japanese translation by Susumu Ōhara)

 * Naze nihonjin wa nihon wo ai senai no ka - Kono fukō na kuni no yukue

English title: ''Why Can’t the Japanese Love Japan? The Direction this Unhappy Country is headed'' – 1998, Mainichi Shinbun Sha (Japanese translation by Susumu Ōhara)

 * Okore! Nihon no Chūryūkaikyū

English title: Bourgeoisie - The Missing Element in Japanese Political Culture – 1999, Mainichi Shinbun Sha (Japanese translation by Chikara Suzuki)

 * Amerika wo shiawase ni shi, sekai wo fukō ni suru fujōri na shikumi

Translated Japanese title: The absurd system that makes the United States happy and the rest of the world miserable – 2000, Daiyamondo Sha (Japanese translation by

Norimasa Fukushima)

 * Nihon to iu kuni wo anata no mono ni suru tame ni

English title: Can Japanese People Control Their Own Fate? – 2001, Kadokawa Shoten (Japanese translation by Kiyomi Fujii)

 * Kaiketsu Wolferen no nihon-waido-gekijō

English title: Japanese Kaleidoscope – 2001, Prejidento Sha (Japanese translation by Kiyomi Fujii)

 * Worufuren kyōju no yasashii nihonkeizai

Translated Japanese title: Japanese Economics Made Easy with Professor Van Wolferen – 2002, Daiyamondo Sha (Japanese translation by Kiyomi Fujii)

 * Bushu / Sekai wo kowashita kenryoku no jijitsu

English title: George W. Bush and the Destruction of World Order – 2003, PHP Kenkyūsho (Japanese translation by Kiyomi Fujii)

 * Amerika kara no dokuritsu ga nihonjin wo shiawase ni suru

English title: Genuine Japanese Independence - A Necessity! – 2003, Jitsugyo no Nihon Sha

 * Sekai no ashita ga kessuru hi - beidaitōryō-sengo no sekai wa dō naru no ka?

English title: The Day When the Future of the World will be Decided - How the Outcome of the United States Presidential Election will Shape the World – 2004, Kadokawa

Shoten (Japanese translation by Junko Kawakami)

 * Sekai ga nihon wo mitomeru hi - Mō amerika no zokkoku de iru hitsuyō wa nai

English title: The Day that the World Can Take Japan Seriously Again – Japan no longer needs to be an American dependency – 2005, PHP Kenkyūsho (Japanese

translation by Kiyomi Fujii)

 * Nenshū sanbyaku manen - Nihonjin no tame no kōfukuron (in collaboration with Takuro Morinaga)

Translated Japanese title: The age of the 3 million yen annual income - A discussion on how the Japanese people can attain happiness – 2005, Daiyamondo Sha

 * Een Keerpunt in de Vaderlandse Geschiedenis (in collaboration with Jan Sampiemon)

Translated Dutch title: A Turning-Point in National History – 2005, J.M. Meulenhoff – Amsterdam

 * Japan shisutemu no gisō to hakai - Shiawase wo ubawareta “hatarakiari-kokka”-nihon (in collaboration with Benjamin Fulford)

Translated Japanese title: The Deceit and Destruction of the System called Japan - A Nation of Worker Ants deprived of Happiness – 2006, Tokuma Shoten

 * Mō hitotsu no sakoku - Nihon wa sekai de koritsu suru

English title: Sakoku by other means - Japan will become isolated from the world – 2006, Kadokawa Shoten (Japanese translation by Minoru Inoue)

 * Nihonjin dake ga shiranai amerika no sekaishihai no owari

English title: The end of American Hegemony – 2007, Tokuma Shoten (Japanese translation by Minoru Inoue)

 * Amerika to tomo ni shizumiyuku jiyūsekai

English title: America’s Tragedy and the Blind Free World – 2010, Tokuma Shoten (Japanese translation by Minoru Inoue)

 * Dare ga Ozawa Ichirō wo korosu no ka? – Kakusakusha naki inbō

English title: The Character Assassination of Ozawa Ichiro – 2011, Kadokawa Shoten (Japanese translation by Minoru Inoue)

 * Kono kuni wa mada daijōbu ka? (in collaboration with Eiji Ōshita)

Translated Japanese title: Has this country lost its marbles? – 2012, Seishi Sha

 * Nihon wo oikomu itsutsu no wana

English title: The Five Traps Surrounding Japan – 2012, Kadokawa Shoten (Japanese translation by Minoru Inoue)

 * Jinbutsu-hakai - Dare ga Ozawa Ichirō wo korosu no ka?

English title: The Character Assassination of Osawa Ichiro (Edited and supplemented reprint of the 2011 original edition) – 2012, Kadokawa Shoten (Japanese translation by

Minoru Inoue)

 * Imada ningen wo kōfuku ni shinai Nihon to iu shisutemu

English title: The False Realities of a Politicized Society (Edited, supplemented and retranslated reprint of the 1994 original edition) – 2012, Kadokawa Sofia Bunko (Japanese

translation by Minoru Inoue)

 * Dokuritsu no shikō - Amerika wa nihon wo mamotte kurenai (in collaboration with Ukeru Magosaki)

Translated Japanese title: Contemplating on independence - The United States doesn’t protect Japan – 2013, Kadokawa Gakugei Shuppan

 * Nihon ni sukū yottsu no kaibutsu

English title: Political Monsters in and around Abe’s Japan – 2014, Kadokawa Gakugei Shuppan (Japanese translation by Minoru Inoue)

 * Itsuwari no sengo-nihon (in collaboration with Satoshi Shirai)

English title: Fake Post-war of Japan – 2014, Kadokawa Gakugei Shuppan

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Talk:Baseline station

Photos
I've added a photo that I took in April. I uploaded it to the Commons with a PD license so that it can be cropped/adjusted/etc. I've heard that construction has begun in the area, but don't have the spare time to head out to see for myself. I haven't been able to find any images online (free or otherwise), so I'd appreciate it if someone could point me to them! Thanks in advance. --RealGrouchy (talk) 08:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I snapped two photos on my way back from paying my parking ticket today. . Use them as you wish. Skootles (talk) 04:46, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

CCTSB correction
The building is not called the Algonquin College Centre for Construction Trades and Building Sciences. It's called the Algonquin Centre for Construction Excellence (ACCE). I've changed it within the article and put a link to the relevant source. Brendan OhUiginn (talk) 15:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've read the other link where the city is calling it the CCTSB. That's the name used at the City of Ottawa, but Algonquin College is calling it the Algonquin Centre for Construction Excellence (ACCE) as indicated in the relevant link source. Brendan OhUiginn (talk) 15:51, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

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William Hare, 5th Earl of Listowel

William Francis Hare, 5th Earl of Listowel, (28 September 1906 – 12 March 1997), styled Viscount Ennismore between 1924 and 1931, was an Anglo-Irish peer and Labour politician. He was the last Secretary of State for India, as well as the last Governor-General of Ghana.

Background and education
Lord Listowel was the eldest son of Richard Hare, 4th Earl of Listowel, and Freda, daughter of Francis Vanden-Bempde-Johnstone, 2nd Baron Derwent. John Hare, 1st Viscount Blakenham, a Conservative Cabinet minister, was his younger brother. He was educated at Eton College, Balliol College, Oxford, Magdalene College, Cambridge and King's College London (PhD, 1932).

Political career
Listowel served as a lieutenant in the Intelligence Corps. He entered the House of Lords on the death of his father in November 1931, by right of the United Kingdom peerage of Baron Hare, and made his maiden speech in March of the following year. He was a Labour Party whip in the Lords from 1941 to 1944, and Deputy Leader of the House of Lords and Under-Secretary of State for India and Burma from 1944 to 1945.

When Labour came to power in 1945 under Clement Attlee, Listowel was appointed Postmaster General, a post he held until April 1947, and was briefly Minister of Information between February and March 1946, when the office was abolished.

In April 1947 he entered the cabinet as Secretary of State for India and Burma. Prime Minister Clement Attlee, however, made all the government's major decisions regarding India. After India gained independence in August 1947, his cabinet title became Secretary of State for Burma, working from the Burma Office, but in January 1948 this too was abolished, when Burma also gained independence, and Listowel then left the cabinet. He continued to serve under Attlee as Minister of State for Colonial Affairs from 1948 to 1950 and as Joint Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries from 1950 to 1951. In 1957, he was appointed Governor-General of Ghana, a post he held until 1960, when Ghana became a Republic. He was later Chairman of Committees in the House of Lords between 1965 and 1976. He remained an active member of the House of Lords, speaking for the last time in July 1995, aged 88.

Apart from his career in national politics, Lord Listowel was a member of the London County Council for East Lewisham between 1937 and 1946, and for Battersea North between 1952 and 1957. He was appointed a Privy Counsellor in 1946 and a GCMG in 1957.

Family
Lord Listowel married three times. Firstly he married Judith, daughter of Raoul de Marffy-Mantuana, on 24 July 1933. They had one daughter:

 * Lady Deirdre Elisabeth Mary Freda Hare (born 13 February 1935), married firstly John Norton, 7th Baron Grantley and then, after his death, Ian Curteis.

Lord and Lady Listowel were divorced in 1945. He married secondly Stephanie Sandra Yvonne Wise on 1 July 1958. They also had one daughter:

 * Lady Fiona Eve Akua Hare (born 24 February 1960)

They were divorced in 1963 and on 4 October 1963 Lord Listowel married thirdly Pamela Mollie Day. They had two sons and one daughter:

 * Francis Michael Hare, 6th Earl of Listowel (born 28 June 1964)
 * Lady Diana France Hare (born 7 December 1965)
 * Hon Timothy Patrick Hare (born 1966)

Pamela, Countess Listowel, lives in Hampstead.

Death
Lord Listowel died in March 1997, aged 90, and was succeeded by his elder son from his third marriage, Francis.

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Talk:Stephen L. Carter

But What Does He Believe / Represents?
Should not the article be more about what ideas he believes in or represents? I believe that this article should be marked for improvement! WikiSceptic 17:15, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

I agree. I came to it from a link related to Black Conservatism, but this article doesn't mention it directly. 63.3.9.129 (talk) 01:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

changed redirect
Steven Carter previously redirected here, with a note to also refer to American author Steven A. Carter. Steven Carter now redirects to Steven A. Carter, since that's actually his name. I modified the note to see him also. Since both Carters are in fact American writers, I referred to him as a self-help writer, since the bulk of his work appears to be in that field. -- stubblyh ea d | T/c 01:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

WSJ article
The Wall Street Journal carried an interesting opinion column about Prof Carter here. Cheers, CWC 09:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 07:00, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Novels
I am working my way through Carter's bibliography and producing articles for each fiction book. Progress to date:

 * The Emperor of Ocean Park - live, has featured on WP:DYK, I'm going to take it to Good articles at some point
 * New England White, live, has featured on WP:DYK
 * Palace Council, now live
 * Jericho's Fall, yet to start
 * The Impeachment of Abraham Lincoln, yet to start
 * The Church Builder, yet to start
 * Back Channel (novel), yet to start

Not a work of fiction but The Culture of Disbelief is an unreferenced stub which needs a lot of work.

I'm also piggling away at Carter's article itself as I go. Any copy editing or assistance would be appreciated. Cheers, Fish +Karate 10:13, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Updated 4 June 2018, Palace Council now live. Fish +Karate 14:03, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

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Chi Aquilae

Chi Aquilae (χ Aql, χ Aquilae) is the Bayer designation for a binary star in the equatorial constellation of Aquila, the eagle. This system is bright enough to be seen with the naked eye at a combined visual magnitude of +5.29. Based upon parallax measurements made during the Hipparcos mission, Chi Aquilae is at a distance of approximately 900 ly from Earth.

The two components of χ Aquilae can be separated in the spectrum and their relative brightness has been measured, but their other properties are uncertain. The cool component is a G2 bright giant or supergiant and is visually brighter than the hot component, so it is treated as the primary. The hot component is a late B- or A-type star, presumed to be a main-sequence star.

The observed spectrum of the primary star is G2 Ib, a yellow supergiant. It is calculated to have an absolute magnitude of −2.1. The secondary is observed to have a spectral type of B5.5 and is expected to be a main-sequence star with an absolute magnitude of −1. However, the brightness difference between a G2 supergiant and a B5.5 dwarf is expected to be larger. It is unclear whether the primary is not a supergiant or the secondary is brighter than a main-sequence star.

As of 2004, the secondary is located at an angular separation of 0.418 arcseconds along a position angle of 76.7° from the primary. The separation and position angle are both decreasing.

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Bombardier Talent section
The Trillium Line no longer uses Bombardier Talent rolling stock, a brief reference to it should be sufficient. A whole section is not necessary. Those with further interest can go to Bombardier Talent. I will replace this section with a single line unless somebody can come up with a good reason why not. 24.108.58.49 (talk) 01:04, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

15 March 2019
Can anyone explain why it is called "Trillium Line"? Sounds a bizarre name, especially as there is no Station on the Line of that name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyarmion (talk • contribs) 03:55, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The two lines were given abstract names expressing patriotic concepts. 'Confederation' is appropriate for the national capital; the trillium is Ontario's provincial flower. Radagast (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

24 April 2019
Can the image section by updated with this? https://www.otrainfans.ca/blogs/stadler-wins-first-contract-for-multiple-unit-trains-in-canada HamiltonNorth (talk) 16:28, 24 April 2019 (UTC) HN
 * Alas, the image is proprietary and Commons would not host it. I can't see a compelling reason for it to get native hosting either; we'll need to wait until the units are out in the world with the O-Train livery and get a photo that way. Radagast (talk) 17:01, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Map
No map. Please add a map. 135.0.44.40 (talk) 10:17, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Ottawa station

Overpass paragraph
Not really sure how this paragraph on a proposed overpass, that might never get built, is relevant to the train station. Proximity does not equal relevance. Is the overpass intended to serve rail passengers? Is it intended to facilitate access to the train station? It's not clear. Even if it can be shown that the intended purpose is to provide easier access to the station, it's not evident that an overpass merits an entire paragraph (if it merits mention at all) in the article. Skeezix1000 11:15, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I've put that paragraph since it is the article about both the Transit Station and the Train Station. The Master Plan says :"Provides enhanced transit accessibility to the stadium (Lynx) and adjacent employment area". That paragraph was put related to the Transitway Station.

This is two distinct things, I'm wondering if de-merging the article would be better, so we would the Transit stop in a separate article --JForget 02:09, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

 * If the purpose of the overpass is to facilitate transit access, then that's fine, but it should be made clear in the paragraph. Right now, the paragraph simply refers to a pedestrian overpass, the purpose of which is unclear.  It isn't even clear from the current wording that the overpass would be accessible from the train station.  As for demerging the article, yes I agree.  The information on the train station building is slowly being lost in the morass of trivial bus route data.  Skeezix1000 11:22, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Demerger done (see below). Any further discussion on the overpass should continue at the article on the transitway station, and I have reproduced this discussion on the talk page at that location. Skeezix1000 11:42, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Demerged
Further to JForget's suggestion above, I was bold and demerged this article and the article on the adjacent transitway station. As mentioned above, the information on the actual train station, a designated heritage structure, was being lost amidst bus route information. The demerger is in keeping with the Toronto example, where Union Station (Toronto) and Union (TTC) are separate articles. It is also in keeping with what appears to be the convention for Ottawa transitway stations -- e.g. St. Laurent Station (OC Transpo) and St. Laurent Shopping Centre are separate articles, Tunney's Pasture Station (OC Transpo) and Tunney's Pasture are separate articles, etc. -Skeezix1000 11:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Ottawa Railway Station? Ottawa Train Station?
Earlier today, this article was boldly moved in good faith from Ottawa Train Station to Ottawa Railway Station with the edit summary "Canadian English". I'm always delighted to see Canadian English usage on Wikipedia. However, I think the perennial Canadian English issue is "railway versus railroad" not "railway versus train", and (correct me if I am wrong) there is nothing un-Canadian about "train station". Moreover, our rules about using Canadian English do not require us to use article titles that differ from the common names for the subject. As far as I know, the building is usually known as the Ottawa Train Station - that's what VIA seems to call it and the adjacent public transit station is specifically called Train Station. I might be wrong in my assumptions, so I thought I'd canvass everyone's thoughts. Regards, --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:47, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * We should simply use the tile the sources use... thus the one people will see and be familiar with. VIA rail and tripadvisor. -- Moxy (talk) 18:12, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

 * I think that the article should stay at Ottawa Train Station. As stated in the previous paragraph, the debate is not about the use of "train" in Canadian English, but truly on the use of railway vs. railroad. Even Wikipedia states that difference in Train station where "train" and "railway" are both indicated as being Commonwealth English. Also, the name "Ottawa Train Station" is what can be found on the Via Rail web page for the train station. Although not authoritative, Google Maps also lists it as Ottawa Train Station (Google Maps). Finally, the building itself is of no help in this case as it only states "Ottawa Station" in English ("Gare d'Ottawa" in French). --TevirSelrahc (talk) 18:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

 * I see no reason for the article to have been moved to that name. The nearby OC Transpo facilty is called "Train Station" because the current VIA station is known as "Ottawa Train Station". If the article had been moved correctly for Canadian usage it would have been to lower case "railway station" and not capitalized. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:35, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

 * Indeed, Skeezix correctly diagnoses that the issue in Canadian English is "railway vs. railroad" — regardless of which word one uses for the fixed infrastructure, however, the vehicle that travels on the rails is quite correctly and legitimately called a train. And that vehicle, not the rails, is what arrives at and departs from the station, so "train station" is a perfectly legitimate and correct usage too, and so the move rationale was an invalid one since the existing name was in no way a CanE violation. That said, I'd follow whichever name, train or railway, is actually used in reliable sources about the station — which, according to all of the above evidence, does indeed appear to be "train". Move back. Bearcat (talk) 22:48, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

 * My bad! It looked out of kilter with the naming conventions for other, neighbouring, stations, but SecondaryWaltz evidently knows the network far better than I could.  Let's leave as it is. John Snow II (talk) 16:42, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Location
The map does not show the location of Ottawa station within Ottawa. Peter Horn User talk 23:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It does on my computer. The black text is pretty hard to read, I'll give you that. BLAIXX 01:44, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * General information about User: Freestyle
 * Occupation: Electrical engineer specializing in security
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Agriculture, forestry, and fishing in Japan

Agriculture, forestry, and fishing (農林水産, ) form the primary sector of industry of the Japanese economy together with the Japanese mining industry, but together they account for only 1.3% of gross national product. Only 20% of Japan's land is suitable for cultivation, and the agricultural economy is highly subsidized.

Agriculture, forestry, and fishing dominated the Japanese economy until the 1940s, but thereafter declined into relative unimportance (see Agriculture in the Empire of Japan). In the late 19th century (Meiji period), these sectors had accounted for more than 80% of employment. Employment in agriculture declined in the prewar period, but the sector was still the largest employer (about 50% of the work force) by the end of World War II. It was further declined to 23.5% in 1965, 11.9% in 1977, and to 7.2% in 1988. The importance of agriculture in the national economy later continued its rapid decline, with the share of net agricultural production in GNP finally reduced between 1975 and 1989 from 4.1% to 3% In the late 1980s, 85.5% of Japan's farmers were also engaged in occupations outside farming, and most of these part-time farmers earned most of their income from nonfarming activities.

Japan's economic boom that began in the 1950s left farmers far behind in both income and agricultural technology. They were attracted to the government's food control policy under which high rice prices were guaranteed and farmers were encouraged to increase the output of any crops of their own choice. Farmers became mass producers of rice, even turning their own vegetable gardens into rice fields. Their output swelled to over 14 million metric tons in the late 1960s, a direct result of greater cultivated area and increased yield per unit area, owing to improved cultivation techniques.

Three types of farm households developed: those engaging exclusively in agriculture (14.5% of the 4.2 million farm households in 1988, down from 21.5% in 1965); those deriving more than half their income from the farm (14.2% down from 36.7% in 1965); and those mainly engaged in jobs other than farming (71.3% up from 41.8% in 1965). As more and more farm families turned to nonfarming activities, the farm population declined (down from 4.9 million in 1975 to 4.8 million in 1988). The rate of decrease slowed in the late 1970s and 1980s, but the average age of farmers rose to 51 years by 1980, twelve years older than the average industrial employee. Historically and today, women farmers outnumber male farmers. Government data from 2011 showed women heading more than three-quarters of new agribusiness ventures.

Agriculture
In 2018, Japan produced 9.7 million tons of rice (13th largest producer in the world), 3.6 million tons of sugar beet (used to produce sugar and ethanol), 1.2 million tons of sugarcane (used to produce sugar and ethanol), 208 thousand tons of persimmon (4th largest producer in the world), 2.3 million tons of potatoes, 1.3 million tons of cabbage, 1.6 million tons of onion, 773 thousand tons of tangerine, 756 thousand tons of apple, 764 thousand tons of wheat, 724 thousand tons of tomato, 612 thousand tons of carrot, 578 thousand tons of lettuce and chicory, 550 thousand tons of cucumber, 317 thousand tons of watermelon, 300 thousand tons of eggplant, 258 thousand tons of pear, 226 thousand tons of spinach, 211 thousand tons of soy, 197 thousand tons of pumpkin, 174 thousand tons of barley, 174 thousand tons of grape, 164 thousand tons of cauliflower and broccoli, 164 thousand tons of yam, 163 thousand tons of strawberry, 143 thousand tons of melon, 141 thousand tons of taro, 140 thousand tons of pepper, 113 thousand tons of peach, 112 thousand tons of apricot, and 2.7 million tons of other vegetables, in addition to smaller productions of other agricultural products.

Land shortage
The most striking feature of Japanese agriculture is the shortage of farmland due to Japan's distinctive geography and geology. The 49000 km2 under cultivation constituted just 13.2% of the total land area in 1988. However, the land is intensively cultivated. Rice paddies occupy most of the countryside, whether on the alluvial plains, the terraced slopes, or wetlands and coastal bays. Non-paddy farmland share the terraces and lower slopes and are planted with wheat and barley in the autumn and with sweet potatoes, vegetables, and dry rice in the summer. Intercropping is common: such crops are alternated with beans and peas.

Japanese agriculture has been characterized as a "sick" sector because it must contend with a variety of constraints, such as the rapidly diminishing availability of arable land and falling agricultural incomes. The problem of surplus rice was further aggravated by extensive changes in the diets of many Japanese in the 1970s and 1980s. Even a major rice crop failure did not reduce the accumulated stocks by more than 25% of the reserve. In 1990, Japan was 67% self-sufficient in agricultural products and provided for around 30% of its cereal and fodder needs.

As an attempt to consolidate farmland and increase productivity, Farmland Intermediary Management Organizations, also known as Farmland Banks, were introduced as part of a reform package in 2014, which also included the reform of local Agricultural Committees. As Jentzsch notes, "The reform package is supposed to rationalize farmland consolidation into the hands of ninaite [bearer] farms, including corporations.

Livestock
Livestock raising is a minor activity. Demand for beef rose in the 1900s, and farmers often shifted from dairy farming to production of high-quality (and high-cost) beef, such as Kobe beef. Throughout the 1980s, domestic beef production met over 2% of demand. In 1991, as a result of heavy pressure from the United States, Japan ended import quotas on potatoes as well as citrus fruit. Milk cows are numerous in Hokkaido, where 25% of farmers run dairies, but milk cows are also raised in Iwate, in Tōhoku, and near Tokyo and Kobe. Beef cattle are mostly concentrated in western Honshu, and on Kyushu. Hogs, the oldest domesticated animals raised for food, are found everywhere. Pork is the most popular meat.

Most of the imported beef comes from Australia, since beef from the United States and Canada was banned after the first cases of BSE in those countries. Those bans were lifted in 2006.

Forestry
Two thirds of land of Japan is forest. 40% of the forests in Japan are planted forests, such as cedar and cypress. They are mainly planted after the Pacific War, in attempt to produce construction material. However, after Japan had experienced rapid economic growth, they switched construction material from wood to reinforced concrete. Moreover, cheaper import wood became more attractive, compared to domestic wood which is produced in steep mountains and requires high labor costs. Nowadays, many planted forests are too dense and need thinning.

In 2015, the Japanese forestry industry produced 20.05 million m3 volume of wood and 436.3 billion yen of production, with half of it from mushroom production. Forestry composes 0.04% of Japan's GDP.

Fisheries
The Japanese fishing industry, both domestic and overseas, has long been centered on the Tsukiji fish market, in Tokyo, which is one of the world's largest wholesale markets for fresh, frozen, and processed seafood. Japan also has greatly advanced the techniques of aquaculture or sea farming. In this system, artificial insemination and hatching techniques are used to breed fish and shellfish, which are then released into rivers or seas. These fish and shellfish are caught after they grow bigger. Salmon is raised this way.

Japan has more than 2,000 fishing ports, including Nagasaki, in southwest Kyūshū; Otaru, Kushiro, and Abashiri in Hokkaidō. Major fishing ports on the Pacific coast of Honshū include, Hachinohe, Kesennuma, and Ishinomaki along the Sanriku coast, as well as Choshi, Yaizu, Shimizu, and Misaki to the east and south of Tokyo.

Japan is also one of the world's few whaling nations. Japan was a member of the International Whaling Commission, where the government pledged that its fleets would restrict their catch to international quotas, but it attracted international opprobrium for its failure to sign an agreement placing a moratorium on catching sperm whales. Japan withdrew from the International Whaling Commission in December 2018 and resumed commercial whaling in July 2019; since then, whaling activities have been limited to its territorial waters and exclusive economic zone.

Two of the largest fishing companies in Japan are Nippon Suisan Kaisha and Maruha Nichiro; each employs more than 10,000 people and owns subsidiaries around the world.

Government position
The Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries is the government agency responsible for the fishing industry. The Japanese Fisheries Agency states that the Basic Fisheries Plan was developed by the Japanese government in 2007, and claims that the government is working to establish long-standing, strong fisheries and fishery practices by promoting the overall restoration of the fishery industry. This can be accomplished by promoting surveys and research into fishery resources, the promotion of international resource management in international waters, promoting international cooperation within the international fishing grounds, and improving the living environments for all aquatic life in inland waters, while at the same time promoting aquaculture. This restoration consists of many different phases to include the restoration and management of high-level fishery resources.

Other priorities of the Japanese government include continuing to develop new technologies to improve fishery operations, whether incorporating new workplace needed technologies, or creating and exploiting intellectual properties. Also, at the top of the list is the reorganization of the fish-labor industry organizations from the top down. The government provides support to the fishery operators groups by helping to acquire the equipment necessary to reduce fuel consumption, through the introduction of energy-saving operating systems. In order to maintain a strong work force in the fishery industry, the government has programs to encourage college students to look into the industry as a possible career path. This includes supporting activities that provide the opportunity to experience stationary net fishing and aquaculture. The government also provides the prospective employees with job information from fisheries worldwide while holding job seminars with well recognized companies in the Japanese fishery business. There is also a government sponsored on-site training program for individuals planning to make a career in the fishery industry. The fisheries in Japan are governed by the Japanese Fisheries Agency.

The Fisheries Agency is organized into four departments: Fisheries Policy Planning Department, Resources Management Department, Resources Development Department, and Fishing Port Department. The Fisheries Policy Planning Department is in charge of the planning of policies concerning the fisheries, and all administrative matters that go along with the organization. The Resources Management Department plans the continuous development of Japan's fisheries. The Resources Development Department is in charge of the scientific research and development in the field of fisheries. The Fishing Port Department is the base for fishery production activities and also the basis for the distribution and processing of the marine products.

Techniques

 * Ayu fishing
 * Tenkara fishing, a type of roach fishing
 * Factory ship
 * Artificial reefs are used to increase the sustainable fishing activities on the coastline.
 * Dolphin drive hunting

In literature
In 2008, Takiji Kobayashi's A Crab Canning Boat, a 1929 Marxist novel about a crab boat crew determined to stand up to a cruel captain under harsh conditions, became a surprise bestseller, thanks to an advertising campaign linking the novel to the working poor.


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Merging Ottawa Transitway and Ottawa Rapid Transit
Ottawa Transitway & Ottawa Rapid Transit

These two articles are basically the same thing and should be merged. What are your thoughts on this? --Maraulth 12:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

If this is a vote, then I'd Support —   nath a nrd o tcom (T • C • W) 15:54, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well the weird thing is that this should all be under the Transitway article, at least I think it should be. I see them both as being basically the same thing. [[Image:Flag of Canada.svg|20px]] Eric B ( T • C • W ) 09:05, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

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Montezuma Castle (hotel)

The Montezuma Castle is a 90000 sqft, 400 room Queen Anne style hotel building erected just northwest of the city of Las Vegas, New Mexico in 1886 (the site was at the time called "Las Vegas Hot Springs," but is now known as "Montezuma"). The current castle is actually the third on the site, the first two (dating to 1881 and 1885) were the first buildings in New Mexico to have electric lighting, and they both burned down.

History as hotel
The castle was constructed by the Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Railroad as a luxury hotel, capitalizing on the natural hot springs on the site. These were widely thought to ease the suffering of people with tuberculosis, "chronic rheumatism, gout, biliary, and renal calculi." The nearby Gallinas Creek also provided excellent trout fishing.

Guests included Theodore Roosevelt, Rutherford B. Hayes, Ulysses S. Grant, William Tecumseh Sherman, John C. Frémont, and Jesse James (who stayed at a predecessor hotel on the same property). Later articles would cite an improbable array of foreign dignitaries as having been guests, including Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany and Emperor Hirohito of Japan. However, some members of European royal families certainly did visit, including Henry Manners, 8th Duke of Rutland, John Campbell, 9th Duke of Argyll, and his wife, Princess Louise, Duchess of Argyll. "The visitors to the Hot Springs represent every part of the continent of America, and nearly every tourist from abroad who crosses the continent by the southerly route stops there for a time."

In addition to the natural recreation available in Montezuma, the hotel provided bowling alleys and billiard rooms. The building was designed and construction was overseen by the Chicago architecture firm Burnham and Root.

It operated as a hotel until October 31, 1903. The building was used as a training center by Jim Flynn when he was preparing for his 1912 boxing match with Jack Johnson (the fight was held in nearby Las Vegas, New Mexico). The complex was briefly owned by the YMCA, then operated as a Baptist college from 1922 until 1931. The Southern Baptist Church sold it to the Catholic Church in 1937, and it was operated as a seminary for Mexican Jesuits until 1972. The building then sat empty for a decade and was subject to significant vandalism and decay. The Jesuits made a little money renting the building out as the set for the low budget horror movie The Evil in 1977.

United World College
In 1981, the castle and the surrounding 100 acres were purchased by industrialist and philanthropist Armand Hammer for use as a United World College. However, the building required extensive repairs before it could be used as a new college facility. Unfortunately, funds were unavailable at the time to make these repairs possible. However, in 1997, it was placed on the list of America's Most Endangered Historic Places by the National Trust for Historic Preservation, along with landmarks like Ellis Island. In 2000 and 2001, the school invested over $10.5 million into restoring the building, and it has won awards as one of the great historical restorations in the United States. It is also the first historic property west of the Mississippi to be designated one of "America's Treasures" by the White House Millennium Council.

Today, the Montezuma Castle, or Davis International Center as it is now known, houses multiple college facilities including the school dining hall, guest and dorm rooms, offices, classrooms, rehearsal spaces, and a student center complete with a store, laundry rooms, pool tables, a dance space, and a kitchen.

The building is not open to the public except when the Armand Hammer United World College, also known as UWC-USA, offers student-led tours of the building on pre-scheduled dates. A list of these dates can be found on the college's website.

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Talk:The Princess and the Pea

Title of the fairy tale
I moved the contents of the page The Real Princess to the page The Princess and the Pea, turned the former into a redirect page and changed the links on other pages accordingly. There are two reasons for this. Firstly, even though the present (unsourced) Project Gutenberg version of Andersen's fairy tales uses the title The Real Princess, it seems that The Princess and the Pea is by far the most commonly-used English title (110,000 hits in Google as compared to 19,800 for the former). Secondly, the latter title much more closely resembles the Danish title, Prinsessen på ærten (literal translation: The Princess on the Pea). Bwiki 17:18, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * That's the title I've always heard. I added a PD Dulac image I got from this PG project. gren グレン 18:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

The correct title is The Princess on the Pea. That the Princess slept on the Pea is fundamental to the meaning. "... and the pea..." assigns the role of equal subject to the pea. That a misinterpretation of a correct translation is widespread does not make the incorrect title correct. It merely propagates an uneducated Anglo-/US-centric attitude within something that aspires to be an actual encyclopaedia.

Unsubstantiated analysis removed
It ends with a very interesting musing regarding possible sado-masochistic psychological imagery, but leaves it largely unanswered. I'm sure there's commentary out there somewhere. I'd look for it myself, but, honestly, I don't feel extremely motivated at the moment. Maybe later. However, leaving it as is would be a disservice. Either it's a legitimate analysis with documented material or it isn't. Cheers. -- Hinotori 11:31, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Actually someone added this to the plot synopsis today, and I moved it to analysis. For all I know it's purely unsubstantiated speculation by this one person. --Steerpike 12:25, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

 * In fact, it was largely copy-pasted from the annotations found at the external link provided by Diddims today (sections 9 and 10). Therefore, I deleted it and moved the external link to the "External links" section, shortening the URL so that it does not point to any specific section of the annotations. Maybe the link is a vanity link, but I will leave that for others to decide. To be fair, the original annotation was more cautiously worded; it said that Some modern writers have explored the sado-masochist possibilities of [the black-and-blue-all-over] story element while Diddims speculates that "black and blue all over" has unsettling undertones of sado-masochism (my emphasis throughout, Bwiki). That would imply that the "black-and-blue" part of the story as such has S-and-M undertones, which is of course purely unsubstantiated. --Bwiki 18:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Plot synopsis
Re TERMINOLOGY. In Switzerland, where I come from, a synopsis is something like an abstract: a brief summary, a condensed general view. This is obviously not what the term means in America at the moment. Otherwise Wikipedia would not give the title of "synopsis" to this retelling of The Princess and the Pea that takes up more space than the original. But however we may call it, I don't understand why anybody would want to make a short story long, managing in the process to leave out the most important details and adding in return elements of his own imagination. There must be a reason for it, but I just don't see it. Can anybody help?--BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 08:56, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The Princess and C.G.Jung
Re BLACK&BLUE. The talk about SM is pure poppycock. The princess, when she went to bed, did not know that this was a test. So where's the masochism? The queen did not think that the girl was a princess. So where's the sadism? Besides, C.G.Jung who has analyzed every well-known fairy tale (cf various Grimm tales in Wikipedia) has nothing to say about SM. There is, however, this ingenious theory of his: Andersen, a sanitizer if there ever was one, made a "pea" out of pee. It was the all-pervading smell of urine that caused the princess to thrash around on her bed until she was black and blue.

As a rule, I wouldn't put much stock in what Jung has to say on any subject whatsoever. But here he certainly has a point. After all, reacting to a pea hidden under 40 mattresses would not signal delicacy but dementia. A nose for urine, on the other hand, is a true sign of nobility.--BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 13:03, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

 * A brilliant theory, except that in Danish, the words for pea and pee are not even remotely similar. Dearsina (talk) 19:20, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Protagonists' virtues, motives
I was just reading a book on crystals and their healing properties. I came across an incerpt on magnetite (lodestone). The book claims that this crystal is used to test the loyalty and fidelity of a wife. It also states that a man could place this stone beneath his wifes pillow, and if she fell out of bed, she was no longer virtuous.

Somehow, this seems to relate to the princess and the pea story. Maybe if she did not feel the pea, somehow she would not be virtuous. ???

172.193.204.172 06:29, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Re VIRTUOUS.  You missed the point of the story, Anonyma. The princess is virtuous by definition. We are to make up our mind about the virtue of all the others. Here goes: The king is obviously an old fool who has nothing to say. The queen is an evil schemer intent upon keeping a virtuous princess out of her family. The servants are cowards. They could have tipped off the princess about the stupid scheme. But they preferred to stay out of the picture altogether. This leaves the  prince: Mother's little helper? A coward like the servants? A victim of his mother's cabal? Or are we totally on the wrong track? Think: A "king" who has to go out in the rain himself to open some doors. A "queen" who herself has to perform menial tasks like preparing a bed. Could it be that all the time it had been the PRINCE who had been pulling the strings behind the scenes? The story gives us a hint: Now he knew that she was a true princess. He needed a test! Which brings us to the main question: How crazy must this princess have been to want to marry into such a family? What do you think, Anonyma?--BZ(Bruno Zollinger) 12:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Wrong infobox
This should be using, not ; our article is about the folk tale and its adaptations (including Andersen's into a short story), not about the Andersen short story in particular. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  19:48, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Then shouldn't it have both infoboxes, and probably some others besides. cygnis insignis 01:35, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:System testing

Limitations
What are the Limitations of system testing??
 * Well, the way I see it, system testing and functional testing are really two different things, and the article should from a neutrality point of view at least make the statement that the wording around testing is not very fixed as of now. System testing to me occurs at the system level, testing functional, as well as non-functional aspects of the software. Tprosser 12:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

 * System tests the whole system, functionally and non-functionally. But functional testing can apply to anything from a whole system, down to an individual code class. So system testing is about scope, and functional testing is more of a design technique. DRogers 19:54, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Redirect from Functional Testing
I disagree with the redirect from Functional Testing to this page about System Testing. They are two different things. Functional Testing is all about systematic test-generation from specifications, and applies to units and systems; and contrasts with Structural Testing, which is code-based. System Testing applies to any large-scale integration testing, using any approach which observes how the various units interact. AJHSimons (talk) 16:01, 1 April 2008
 * I agree --188.2.192.144 (talk) 16:52, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree with all the people who disagree with the redirect. These are very different things. 79.142.241.70 (talk) 12:46, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Also disagree with the redirect, system testing is integration, functional testing does not imply integration. Zaphodikus (talk) 11:56, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * There are two replies on the Functional Testing talk page that echo these concerns. It looks like the 'Functional testing' page has [gone through several different redirects in its history]. Does anyone have a good reference for a definition of Functional Testing? If so we could perhaps keep it as its own article and flesh it out. --Culix (talk) 19:49, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, the book "Testing Computer Software" has the following definition:

 * "Functional testing is a type of black box testing. Functions are tested by feeding them input and examining the output. Internal program structure is rarely considered." Kaner, Falk, Nguyen. Testing Computer Software. Wiley Computer Publishing, 1999, p. 42. ISBN 0-471-35846-0.

 * They further differentiate between functional testing and system testing by saying functional testing "*verif[ies]* a program by checking it against ... design document(s) or specification(s)", while system testing "*validate[s]* a program by checking it against the published user or system requirements".

 * Based on this I believe that functional testing and system testing are two different things, and should have their own articles. Kaner, Falk, and Nguyen seem to be saying that functional testing checks whether parts of the program behave correctly, while system testing operates on the entire structure, and determines if the thing does what people want. This article event currently begins with "System testing ... is testing conducted on a complete, integrated system to evaluate the system's compliance with its specified requirements", so I think that agrees.
 * Furthermore, splitting up functional and system testing would make the wikipedia testing articles consistent - Black-box testing currently reads "This method of test can be applied to all levels of software testing: unit, integration, functional, system and acceptance", thereby indicating its belief that function and system testing are two different things.
 * So, I am going to be bold and move Functional testing back to its own article. There are some things on the talk page there that also need to be cleared up, but let's move one step at a time. Please post here if you agree or disagree. --Culix (talk) 05:21, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. I think it is important that we define what the intent and scope of this article is. Please see discussion at Talk:System_testing Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 22:40, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Types of System Level Test
I disagree that "Exploratory Testing" is a type of "System Level Testing". I think Exploratory Testing is in a category all on its own. The purpose of System Level Testing is to verify some "requirement". It is to do Verification and Validation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordneeko (talk • contribs) 18:32, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Here are some suggestions we could add to a section describing Types of System Level Test: I need to find a good reference for these terms. The definitions here are from an ISACA CISA exam study guide.Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 21:44, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Parallel testing: the process of feeding data into two systems—the modified system and an alternate system—and computing the results in parallel. In this approach, the old and new systems operate concurrently for a period of time and perform the same processing functions.
 * Pilot testing: takes place first at one location and is then extended to other locations. The purpose is to see whether the new system operates satisfactorily in one place before implementing it at other locations.
 * Sociability testing: ensures that a new or modified system can operate in its target environment without adversely impacting existing systems.
 * System integration testing: evaluates the connection of two or more components that pass information from one area to another. The objective is to take unit-tested modules and build an integrated structure. The Wiki article states that this occurs after integration of units, which by definition is a system even if it is a subsystem or incomplete system.

Removing stress testing and load testing from "Types of tests to include in system testing" suggestion
Hello, Wikipedia users, I suggest to remove stress testing and Load testing from "Types of tests to include in system testing" section on the page because they are already part of software performance testing (linked there too) so to me, it is a duplicity and confuses the readers.

Thanks Walter Görlitz for reverting my change, it was actually not intended as Test edit but real edit to improve quality of the page, but as it is my very first edit of Wiki page, I am not sure if I did it right. Originally, I made an edit without leaving edit comment, than I realized that I cannot add edit comment later so I have Undoed my original edit and Re-added the same change, this time with a comment. Please feel free to fix whatever I may have broken unwillingly ;)

(Walter wrote on my page: "Hello, I'm Walter Görlitz. An edit that you recently made to System testing seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want more practice editing, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:07, 13 June 2016 (UTC)" ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JetyCZ (talk • contribs) 14:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Why do you think that there are separate articles for those topics? Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:24, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Dear fellow editor,
 * Thank you for your interest in the present article. As a reader, it is clear to me that 'Stress testing', 'Load testing' and 'Performance testing' are different test methods, each of which requires specific approaches. 'Software performance testing' is a variant of 'Performance testing' applied to the specific component of 'Software'. The other component is obviously 'Hardware' which, when combined with 'Software', becomes a complete, end-to-end 'System' (one 'end' being a network terminal user, and the other 'end' being a data record on disk, for example). To be complete (and a little pedantic ), one could argue that our encyclopedia should also feature an article on Hardware performance testing, although the performance of hardware components is often measured as part of 'System testing' anyway.
 * Please forgive me for over-simplifying the above somewhat, but I daresay an article on the all-encompassing 'System testing' ought to include a summary overview of all potential system 'components' (all the 'hardware' and 'software' parts put together) and also of the main test 'methods'; the latter include 'Load testing' ("Will the system and/or component absorb the increased load generated during incremental repeats of this test?"), 'Performance testing' ("What are the tuning parameters required (in various components) to deliver the greater number of transactions per minute?") and 'Stress testing' ("Under what load conditions does the system and/or component(s) break or stop operating properly?"). An article's See also section is one of Wikipedia's ways of providing this 'summary' function, with wikilinks pointing to the relevant articles.
 * So, in conclusion, I would suggest that the present article is complete as it includes a mention of these various test methods, and separate articles are warranted on all of these also, where each topic can be expanded in greater detail. I hope the above helped in giving you another viewpoint about the current version of the article. Thank you once again for your interest in the present article, and for opening the present discussion on its talk page.
 * With kind regards;
 * Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 15:34, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, thank you Patrick for your complex explanation, it makes sense and I am happy now to leave the page as it is. Walter, I think we misunderstood a bit each other. I agree that Load and Stress testing are two different testing types, I actually did not want to merge them or delete one of them, but only I wanted only remove the links from System testing page (kind of to keep the tree of Top to bottom division of testing types without duplicites). Hope it makes sense to you. Anyway, I am impressed by the speed and quality of peer review process of my edit, glad that collaborative effort works so nice :) thanks to you both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JetyCZ (talk • contribs) 21:28, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
 * We obviously need to establish what the intended scope and focus of this article is. See Talk:System_testingStephen Charles Thompson (talk) 22:19, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Difference between this and System Integration Testing
What's the difference between this and System integration testing? It feels like these two pages should be combined. kriskhaira (talk) 07:18, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The other article discusses a subject of testing that is at a lightly different level than. System integration testing is concerned with only where two system components integrate while system testing is focused on all functional elements of a system. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:52, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Judging by semantics alone, System integration testing sounds like a form or type of System testing. If this article is supposed to be a summary intro to system testing in general it should reference and link to the more detailed sub-topic article Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 22:17, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

 * It sounds to me like system testing is performed on subsystems which are then combined and undergo system integration testing. But clearly this applies only to very complex systems, and I don't think this terminology is universal. I'd call these different levels of integration testing. Beland (talk) 05:38, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Incorrect definition in summary?
I believe this definition is inaccurate, "System testing falls within the scope of black-box testing, and as such, should require no knowledge of the inner design of the code or logic." I believe (from my experience) the reverse is true, that black box testing is one form of system testing. The cited source of this definition is obsolete. Will someone with expertise or access to authoritative standards please verify or update the summary definition? Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 22:06, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

 * System testing is not necessarily black box testing ... although in practice it usually is done that way. ... There are a zillion ways to categorize testing and most are independent of each other. A particular test can fall into multiple categories. Stevebroshar (talk) 04:28, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Black box testing can be done at any level, including unit, integration, and system testing. It simply requires testing to specification without knowing implementation details. Beland (talk) 05:31, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Many web sources seem to think system testing is generally done in a black box fashion, but I doubt that's universally so. I'd say neither is a type of the other n but that black box techniques are typically used when system testing. Beland (talk) 05:33, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

What is the intended scope of this article?
I believe that mistakes in the summary definition, lack of cited current and authoritative sources, and haphazard inclusion of a few certain kinds of testing have cast doubt on the intended focus / scope of this article. Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 22:33, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

What is the intended scope of this article? I hope so, because that would be a good starting point for anyone exploring all the various kinds of system testing methods. What do you think? Stephen Charles Thompson (talk)
 * Is it intended to be a summary introduction to all types of system testing in general, regardless of (non-specific to) the type of system?
 * Is this article intended to be a taxonomic top-level or root of all types of system testing?
 * Would this article have subsections with introductions and links to articles describing testing terms that are specific to a certain kind of system (example, Software testing)?
 * Would this article have subsections with introductions and links to articles describing specific kinds of tests (example, Destructive testing)?
 * Those all sound like useful subtopics of system testing which can or could be summarized in or linked to from this overview article. -- Beland (talk) 05:42, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

I went ahead and re-focused the article from being exclusively about software to a general overview of system testing concepts. All of content describing software testing that was removed was already in the well-formed main article Software testing. Stephen Charles Thompson (talk) 19:54, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

 * I think that system testing implies testing a software system. Or if the term also applies to non-software systems (which may be true since my expertise is software) then there is a meaning to system testing that is particular to software system testing, and that a non-software system meaning might be significantly different. ... thinking of the destructive testing section: that clearly does not apply to software. hmmm Stevebroshar (talk) 04:33, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Franz-Benno Delonge

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep -- (drini's page| ☎ ) 21:16, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Franz-Benno Delonge
Substub article. Subject has about 23,100 hits on Google, which seems impressive but for the fact that only about 530 of those are unique pages. Also, most of those pages are passing references or lists of board games and their designers. The German-style board games article's list of designers has more than half of them as red links, so I don't see what there is about Mr. Delonge that makes him more worthy of an article than the others. An example of a more notable designer might be Reiner Knizia, because of his listing on the Internet Top 100 Games List. Quicksandish τκ 17:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Could you just redirect it to German-style board games, spesifically the part of it that has his name? --Rayc 17:57, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Keep — as game designers go, I think he's notable enough to keep this article. I added in a few more details. — RJH 18:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Klaus Teuber is a stub too, but it'd be silly to delete that one. Same applies here, I think. (preceding unsigned comment by )

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Phi Aquilae

Phi Aquilae, Latinized from φ Aquilae, is the Bayer designation of a binary star system in the equatorial constellation of Aquila. It has an apparent visual magnitude of +5.28 and is visible to the naked eye. With an annual parallax shift of $14.198 mas$, this star is located at a distance of approximately 230 ly from Earth. It is drifting closer with a radial velocity of –27 km/s. Based on its motion through space, this system is considered a possible member of the nearby Argus association of co-moving stars, although it may be too old.

Phi Aquilae is a single-lined spectroscopic binary with an orbital period of 3.32068 days. The pair have a projected separation of $190.4 AU$ as of 2008. The primary component is a subgiant star with a stellar classification of A1 IV. The star is around 280 million years old and is spinning with a projected rotational velocity of 27. It has 2.39 times the mass of the Sun and somewhere in the range of 1.8–2.5 times the Sun's radius. The outer atmosphere has an effective temperature of 9,509 K, giving it the white-hued appearance of an A-type star. It is radiating 34 times the luminosity of the Sun.

The orbiting companion may be the source of the X-ray emission from this system, as stars similar to the primary component do not generally produce detectable levels of X-rays. It has 40% of the mass of the Sun.

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Category:General Electric people

People associated with General Electric (1892-).

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 * Hello this is user lclkrist. Added info about escalators and elevators to Layout section -- Lclkrist (talk) 20:06, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

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Yamagata Bank

The Yamagata Bank (株式会社山形銀行) is a Japanese regional bank that is based out of Yamagata city, Yamagata prefecture. Most of the bank's branches are in Yamagata prefecture, or other major cities in the Tohoku region, with a branch in Tokyo as well. The principal shareholders as of March 2005 were The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi, Ltd. and Meiji Yasuda Life Insurance Company.

History
Yamagata Bank can trace its origins to 1878, when The 81st National Bank was founded. In 1897, this bank was later absorbed by the Ryouu Bank, which was established one year earlier. The bank merged with numerous small financial institutions over the first half of the 20th century, and finally changed its name to its present form in 1965.

In October 2005, Yamagata Bank, along with the Saitama Resona Bank, 82 Bank and Hokkoku Bank jointly injected funds into Allegro MicroSystems, an American subsidiary of Sanken Electric Co. Ltd., after Sanken purchased Minnesota-based semiconductor producer PolarFab.

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Acorn Computers
Pretty comprehensive article on a the history and products of a now defunct British computer company. A lot of effort has gone into this article, including contacting several people involved with the company by email to clear up disagreements surrounding the article. TreveXtalk 17:22, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Self nominate and support. TreveXtalk 17:22, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Support. Terrific piece. Angmering 22:44, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. It came out rather well! mfc 15:21, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
 * '''Support Object
 * lots of bold text
 * ToC is granulated. Use terse headings eg:  Acorn Group as an Olivetti subsidiary (1985–1998) ---> Olivetti subsidiary
 * Section 5.1 is unnecessary. Either merge with parent, or promote to a top level heading.
 * an appearance at Supergirl's school! what's the exclaimation mark for?
 * Separate 4MHz etc. with a non breaking space 4&nbsp;MHz.
 * Your footnote is not done correctly. Use ref and note to correct it.
 * =Nichalp  «Talk»=  05:05, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Each subsection ( ===Subsection not a section=== ) is now at least three lengthy paragraphs.TreveXtalk 10:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I've also expanded the footnotes (using ref and note).
 * TreveXtalk 11:14, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * TreveX, please do not strike out my objections. Only the reviewer is authorised to do so. You may bullet my answers or correct typos, but please do not strike out (or fragment if the case arises) by objections.
 * I'm not happy with the headings: 1) Use either Prehistory OR Chris Curry and Sinclair Radionics 2) Remove the years in the headings;  A new RISC.... --> New RISC ... ; BBC Master, Archimedes --> BBC Master and Archimedes; ; The last acorns fall --> too flowery, please tone down. 3)  company was closed down --> company folded? 4)  5 December : dates like these should be wikified. 5)  (shown right) not necessary 6) I notice a lot of text in brackets, (eg. (including the CPU); (the Econet) etc ) this breaks the flow of the text, please avoid using these. Good work fixing the rest.  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:44, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I've now fixed all of your criticisms with the exception of one, the years in the headings. I think this is a minor disagreement about style rather than a substantive grounds for objection. In my opinion, the use of years in the headings makes the article more useful and informative by giving an at-a-glance overview of how the four main phases of the company were distributed, chronologically speaking. Are there any Wikipedia style guides on inclusion of years in headings? TreveXtalk 11:29, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Though I still reccommend you not use years in the headings, I won't hold it against the article. Good work in taking care of the rest. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:58, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Support. Very well done. -- Pamri • Talk 11:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment shouldn't there be some info on its stock performance and corporate structure? (maybe there is but I missed it?) Ryan Norton T 22:55, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * There is information on stock performance, profits and company structure throughout the article. Stock performance and profits are discussed at critical points:
 * The BBC Micro sold spectacularly well – so much so that Acorn's profits rose from a mere £3000 in 1979 to £8.6m in July 1983. In September 1983, CPU shares were liquidated and Acorn was floated on the Unlisted Securities Market as Acorn Computer Group plc, with Acorn Computers Ltd as the microcomputer division. With a minimum tender price of 120p, the group came into existence with a market capitalisation of about £135 million. CPU founders Herman Hauser and Chris Curry leapt instantly into the paper millionaire bracket: Hauser's 53.25 million shares made him worth £64m; Curry's 43 million shares translated into £51m.

 * The Italian computer company took a 49.3% stake in Acorn for £12 million, which went some way to covering Acorn's £11 million losses in the previous six months. This valuation fell some £165m below Acorn's peak valuation of £190m. In September 1985, Olivetti took a controlling share of Acorn with 79% of shares.

 * Between 1996 and 1998 Olivetti disposed of its interest in Acorn Group through a series of structured transactions, raising £54m.
 * As for structure, the various incarnations of the company are discussed throughout the narrative:

 * Cambridge Processor Unit Ltd (Dec 1978)
 * Acorn Computer Ltd (Jan 1979)
 * Acorn Computers Ltd (May 1979)
 * Acorn Computer Group PLC (Sep 1983)
 * ARM Ltd (1990)
 * Acorn Online Media (1994)
 * Element 14 (1999)
 * Thanks for looking at the article. Hope this helps! TreveXtalk 11:35, 12 October 2005 (UTC)


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Hettinger High School

Hettinger High School is a public high school located in Hettinger, North Dakota, United States. In the school year of 2022-2023, it served 124 students. It is a part of the Hettinger School District. The athletic teams are known as the Night Hawks.

Championships

 * State Class 'B' boys' basketball: 1957, 1983
 * State Class 'A' wrestling: 1966
 * State Class 'B' wrestling: 1996, 2000, 2001, 2017

Notable alumni

 * Rick Berg - current North Dakota Senate Majority Leader.
 * Patricia Brentrup - mother of Macaulay Culkin and Kieran Culkin.

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Talk:Poway Unified School District

Copyvio problems
The "School Construction and Renovation" section reads to me like a copyvio, but I can't find a source online. -- Avocado 17:23, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Avacado, The section 'School Construction and Renovation' is not a copyvio. The writing was intended to sound as if it were taken from an official site, without actually being from one. The information contained in that portion of the page, as in the other parts, is completely accurate. I obtained that information mainly from the Poway District site, but some of the other data was collected from conversations with staff members of Poway High School. The section in question will also be updated and expanded within the month of December. More information on individual schools and their progress will be given, as well as quotes from students and teachers at one of the schools.--Lost0890 01:17, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

On 9 December I said, "The section in question will also be updated and expanded within the month of December. More information on individual schools and their progress will be given, as well as quotes from students and teachers at one of the schools." Unfortunately I have either had too much homework or been at a family members home to make action out of those few words, so my statement is now false. As a Poway High School student, and a past member of Yearbook/Journalism, I am obligated to eliminate bias in my writing, so it takes a few drafts to make the text to make it appear as someone with an outside point of view wrote the page about the district and its schools. It takes a while, and while I write this message I am also working on one of my numerous essays the are due throughout the next week, so I leave this message in the hope that it will not be another three months before I can return and actually update this page. If anyone else knows enough about the progress of any event dealing with PUSD please feel free to update the page. Lost0890 04:04, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:South Keys station

Current article
It really sounds like a Travel Wiki. The article should maybe treat about the station itself, and the routes, but not the average travel time or details on routes.

Incorrect link
In the infobox, there is a link to Hawthorne station as route 98's terminus. If you click on it, the link brings to an article about a Hawthorne station in New Jersey. If somebody could please correct this, it would be most appreciated.

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