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Tv internet o IP TV? Non è semplice rispondere a questa domanda: anche coloro che lavorano per le imprese che aspirano alla IP TV non darebbero molto credito all'esistenza di un'alternativa per potenziare la forza di Internet nella distribuzione dei contenuti video.

Dunque quali sono le principali differenze tra questi due approcci? La scelta sembra essere tra un universo di produzione di contenuto altamente diversificato e dinamico ed un altro dominato dalla distribuzione privata e protetta dei contenuti video più tradizionali, per la maggior parte forniti dai grandi gruppi di Hollywood ed altri media tra i più conosciuti.

L'IP TV è rappresentata da sistemi televisivi chiusi e proprietari come gli odierni servizi via cavo, ma è distribuita attraverso canali IP protetti, con un forte aumento sul controllo della distribuzione dei contenuti.

La Televisione via Internet è invece una struttura aperta ed in evoluzione in cui un gran numero di piccoli e medi produttori video forniscono contenuti altamente innovativi e di nicchia, rispetto ai tradizionali canali di distribuzione. Nonostante queste differenze, rimane difficile apprezzare la vera natura di questi due modelli, a meno che non li si osservino approfonditamente nei dettagli.

Che cos'è l'IP TV: "IP TV in generale è fondata e supportata dai maggiori fornitori di telecomunicazioni che hanno intrapreso la missione di creare un prodotto alternativo e concorrente ai servizi via cavo e satellitari." (Jeremy Allaire) "Sebbene la sigla IP stia per Internet Protocol, ciò non vuole dire che la gente per vedere la programmazione televisiva debba entrare nella pagina web preferita. In questo caso IP infatti si riferisce a un metodo per inviare informazioni attraverso una rete protetta e strettamente gestita il cui risultato è un tipo di intrattenimento migliore....IP TV è particolarmente adatto per la produzione di contenuti dei principali media, inclusi Hollywood ed i maggiori canali di distribuzione via satellite e via cavo. IP TV permette a queste organizzazioni di avere un controllo totale sui contenuti distribuiti e riduce notevolmente le opportunità per la pirateria, che l'anno scorso è costata all'industria via cavo più di quattro miliardi di dollari"(Businessweek - "The real meaning of IP TV") IP TV integra modi molteplici per monitorare e registrare le scelte degli utenti, le loro preferenze e le selezioni nell'arco della giornata, ecco perchè appare come una piattaforma ideale per inserirvi opzioni personalizzate di e-commerce ed altre forme di pubblicità fatte su misura. IP TV è una piattaforma controllata da un "carrier" che possiede infrastrutture che gestisce e controlla e l'utente interagisce direttamente con questo "carrier". Questo tipo di infrastruttura è presente all'interno del "carrier" e difficilmente vi si può accedere tramite Internet. IP TV è un'infrastruttura di connessione di massa che verrà sviluppata nel corso degli anni e che dipenderà in buona parte dalle innovazioni nella connettività, nei trasporti e negli apparecchi per la distribuzione, sia per quanto rigurada l'operatore, che il cliente.

Sarà facile per le compagnie di telecomunicazioni, acquisire, creare le licenze e distribuire gli esistenti contenuti video commerciali? Queste società, che hanno poca o nessuna esperienza in merito, riusciranno ad avere successo in questa industria emergente? Al momento queste domande rimangono aperte: non sarà facile. L'industria dell'intrattenimento è già intrecciata in una complessa rete di contratti esclusivi di licenze ed ottenere i contenuti giusti sarà una sfida per le compagnie di telecomunicazioni. I film di solito sono vincolati da diritti esclusivi per circa otto o nove anni, trascorsi i quali finalmente la licenza è aperta ai diritti generici per la trasmissione. Questo è l'ostacolo più arduo da superare, per coloro che vogliono cominciare a distribuire i loro contenuti video tramite IP.

L'industria è arrivata ad un punto cruciale: la scelta tra una TV basata su Internet, aperta, altamente diversificata e fatta dalla gente, contro una TV molto commerciale, protetta e controllata da reti private che si basano sul modello tradizionale dei servizi via cavo e satellitari. Purtroppo molte società di telecomunicazioni stanno buttando via molto denaro per creare versioni basate sull'IP di come le offerte già esistenti della TV via cavo e staellitare, senza capire l'importanza della TV via Internet che sta emergendo e quello che ha da offrire sul serio.

Che cos'è la Televisione via Internet? La televisione via Internet è piuttosto diversa in termini di modelli per il consumatore, per il produttore e per l'infrastruttura stessa. Qui infatti, il modello è aperto a qualsiasi possessore di diritti ed è basato sullo stesso modello di pubblicazione presente oggi sul web: chiunque può creare un prodotto e distribuirlo su base globale. E' una televisione aperta a tutti i possessori di diritti, indipendentemente dal fatto che sia un individuo a creare un video per un pubblico ristretto o un produttore tradizionale che offre canali via cavo. In questa televisione la comunicazione tra il produttore e l'utente è diretta. Questo approccio vuole inoltre essere il più indipendente possibile dagli apparecchi e dalle infrastrutture dei "carrier" e degli operatori. Grazie agli standard ed ai formati aperti, che hanno reso possibile questa opportunità, la televisione via Internet vuole essere proprio come il web è oggi: accessibile da qualsiasi computer e con qualsiasi connessione, da ogni parte del mondo. La televisione via Internet sarà integrata con l'esperienza che gli utenti hanno con Internet e con i meccaniscmi di ricerca, scoperta e condivisione delle esperienze. Il modello su cui si basa questo tipo di televisione è globale - e non geografico come l'IP TV - e vi si potrà accedere da qualsiasi zona o regione. La televisione via Internet promette accesso a molti nuovi prodotti ed a una varietà di programmazioni molto più ampia rispetto a quella tradizionale. Una piattaforma aperta fornisce un controllo sulle marche e sulle relazioni con gli utenti, questo creerà un'esplosione dei contenuti di nicchia, accessibili tramite sistemi aperti e basati sull'IP. Non sarebbe una sorpresa vedere "nuovi collettivi di media" modellati suoi progetti open source che si uniscono per portare avanti un interesse particolare, sia per l'intrattenimento che per i programmi informativi. Ma la domanda è: quale dei due tipi di televisione vorreste e perchè?. DarioPettinelli - www.italiatv.it

Tastiera e cavetti per i nuovi banditi
Tastiera e cavetti per i nuovi banditi - (da www.italiatv.it)- Aumentano le truffe informatiche. Questo il risultato di una recente indagine del Ministero degli Interni con la preziosa collaborazione di GDF e polizia di Stato.

In Italia si è iniziato a parlare di crimini informatici dal 1993, con le modifiche al codice penale introdotte dalla legge 547 e quindi norme riguardo a reati come frode informatica, ingiuria e diffamazione a mezzo internet, falso informatico, spionaggio, detenzione e diffusione abusiva di codici d'accesso a sistemi informatici e telematici e l'accesso non autorizzato agli stessi.

La tecnologia evolve molto velocemente e il crimine è ormai stabilmente approdato nel web, con l'aggravante che spesso è percepito come "una ragazzata" e non come crimine etico e penale. Se infatti da una parte siamo consci della centralità di internet per la comunicazione presente e futura, con tutti i suoi contenuti multimediali e canali tematici, dall'altra si fa forse ancora fatica a riconoscere i contorni di questo mondo “immateriale”. L'esempio più palese è che chi scarica una canzone dal web probabilmente mai si sognerebbe mai di infilare un cd sotto la giacca al supermercato. Eppure l'azione è fondamentalmente la stessa.

La “sat-pirateria” è un'altra faccia della rivoluzione telematica. Per loro natura, non esistono di fatto sistemi inviolabili e nel caso degli hackers della tv satellitare il piatto è stato da subito ghiotto viso che con modeste capacità tecniche e piccoli investimenti riuscivano a creare "black card" (schede pirata) da inserire nel decoder al posto delle originali per vedere, abusivamente, programmi a pagamento, “risparmiando” centinaia di euro.

Al posto di un piede di porco o di una pistola, gli strumenti del mestiere sono un paio di "cosette" elettroniche, qualche cavetto e delle schede vergini che si possono comprare tranquillamente nei negozi: il reato inizia nel momento in cui la scheda diventa in condizione di accedere ai servizi a pagamento violando la legge sul diritto d'autore.

Oggi i sistemi di protezione dei gestori si sono notevolmente evoluti, alcuni metodi vengono considerati virtualmente inattaccabili e sono quelli che cambiano continuamente il codice di decrittazione del programma, ma questo sembra non scoraggiare i sat-hackers, specialmente quelli che, attirati dall'idea del profitto, navigano sulla rete in cerca dei loro “numeri magici”.

Il mercato più fiorente pare essere nell'Europa dell'Est e nell'ex Unione sovietica, da cui proviene molto del materiale che poi gira anche in Italia. La polizia, nella sezione relativa ai reati informatici e telematici, identifica principalmente tre comportamenti criminosi legati alla pirateria satellitare: chi crea i programmi per fare black card o alterare la carte originali per divertimento o per testare la propria abilità; chi programma black card o manipola quelle originali in ambiente domestico per il solo scopo personale di vedere in frode i programmi televisivi a pagamento; chi sfrutta la propria capacità tecnica per realizzare forti guadagni illeciti vendendo all'utente le black card. Potrebbe sembrare paternalistico o superfluo, ma è bene ricordare che la violazione di qualsivoglia diritto d'autore costituisce un doppio reato, quello che comporta una pena detentiva fino a 3 anni e quello non meno "pesante" dell'offesa all'etica comune; senza dimeticare che violando i diritti d'autore si mina seriamente la sopravvivenza di quei pochi liberi pensatori e creativi rimasti.

Dario Pettinelli www.italiatv.it

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Talk:List of child prodigies

Freddy Adu
There is no proof nor evidence to suggest that Freddy Adu was any better aged 8, 10, 12 or 14 than any of today's top players. He benefited from displaying strong talent at an early age in a weak league and garnering massive amounts of public exposure that blurred the line between his celebrity and ability.

I have nothing against the kid and I think he's a good player, but he simply does not deserve to be the sole representative of soccer/football in the child prodigy article. If he had been playing in England, Spain, Italy, Germany, Brazil or Argentina, he simply would not have received the level of attention and praise he has throughout his career.

A much better example would be Pele, who was a star of the 1958 World Cup with Brazil aged just 17. At roughly the same age Adu was not even selected in the USA roster for the 2006 World Cup. A more recent example is Wayne Rooney, who excelled at every age level, scoring 114 goals in 30 games aged 9/10 for Everton U10s and U11s, moving up to U12s aged 10, U15s aged 12, U17s aged 14, U19s aged 15, playing and scoring in the English Premiership aged 16 and playing international football aged 17.

Thoughts? Anyone agree/disagree? 81.168.108.225 (talk) 20:13, 24 April 2009 (GMT)

Can I add someone I know to the child prodigy list?
All entries must meet wiki's verifiablity and notability requirements.

The following alone do not make someone notable as a child prodigy:

 * enrolling in university-level courses (unless perhaps the institution is highly selective such as Harvard, Oxford, one of the Grandes écoles, etc.)
 * winning a competition in which the other competitors are a similar age
 * being the youngest to write the SAT, A-level, etc. exam (someone has to be the youngest)

The following do not meet verifiability standards:

 * blogs, personal websites, message boards, YouTube videos, newsletters
 * puff pieces (in either print or video) wherein a child is described as a prodigy

A potential candidate should be regarded as an intellectual or competitive peer by the adults in his/her field.

obvious lacunae
Gauss, Galois, and Abel are some well attested mathematicians who were prodigies at a young age. Gauss and Galois opened entirely new fields of maths, and Abel solved the general quintic question, which had been outstanding for several hundred years, and wrote papers which suggested much he died to soon to elucidate. A list which does not include these is damaged indeed. 69.118.209.149 (talk) 22:44, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

John von Neumann
I think it is unfair to classify von Neumann merely as a mental calculator. Along with his tremendous memory and facility for languages, he had already taught himself calculus by age 8. And he obtained two PhDs by the time he was 21. Along with his spectacular career later on, he was a genuine child prodigy and not just a mental calculator. I propose we move him to the general mathematical prodigy section.

Child
Child is defined in WP as " a human being between the stages of birth and puberty". The list itself in its lead gives an upper age limit of 10. I am therefore going through this list to remove anyone whose precocity relates to activities when aged 11 and above, and/or is without reliable citation.--Smerus (talk) 10:41, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Subuey has sought to reverse my deletion of Tristan Pang from this list. The reasons given are: " you need to wait for people to respond on the talk page before carrying out these changes. also, I have responded to you at the afd. discuss your opinion there and wait for it to finish."
 * There are two issues here.
 * 1) AfD. I have given my comments clearly at the AfD page and repeating them serves no purpose except clutter.
 * 2) Whether or not the article is deleted, it still has to maintain WP standards while it is available, and maintenance does not have to await conclusion of the AfD (or anything else). 'Prodigy' is clearly defined at the head of this article, using the same definition as the WP article child prodigy. Entries in the list which cannot be reliably sourced as meeting this definition need to be removed. Anyone objecting to this process should either provide evidence that they do meet the definition, or seek to rewrite the article child prodigy with a different definition.
 * Editors' views on the maintenance of the article can be expressed here (as opposed to arguments for or against deleting the article which belong in the AfD discussion of course). So far no editor has chosen to do so, although my note has been here for four days.--Smerus (talk) 08:58, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I object to these changes. You jumped the gun, making them while the only votes in the afd were to "keep", other than your own. (and one other made after) Longstanding consensus, as explained in the article lead, should not be overturned by one or two users. Subuey (talk) 18:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * There is no "longstanding consensus in the article lead" as claimed by Subuey. There is a sourced definition (as preferred by WP) of 'child prodigy' which is the same definition as used in the WP article child prodigy. That is the definition which should be used in this list. The other two sentences in the lead are not sourced or cited, are vague in their implications, and are not the result or consequence of any consensus on the talk page or anywhere else as far as I can see. Imo they simply express the WP:POV(s) of whichever editor(s) inserted them - not an appropriate WP criterion. Unless they can be validated they carry no weight. Tristan Pang does not meet the criteria in the lead and there are no reputable or reliable sources which would entitle him to be listed here as a 'child prodigy'. If User:Subuey has such sources, the onus is on him/her to produce them, not to blandly reinstate without justification - otherwise he/she lays him/herself open to accusations of actions on the basis of WP:IDONTLIKE. The only criterion for inclusion in this list is the definition in the first sentence of this article. The only way round this wolud be to edit the article child prodigy to provide a differing definition, porperly sourced, and obtain agreement on that. In the meantime I have redeleted Mr. Pang.
 * I refer User:Subuey also to the post made above in this talkpage, made some time ago by an unknown editor, which has never been challenged:

 * All entries must meet wiki's verifiablity and notability requirements.

 * The following alone do not make someone notable as a child prodigy:

 * enrolling in university-level courses (unless perhaps the institution is highly selective such as Harvard, Oxford, one of the Grandes écoles, etc.)
 * winning a competition in which the other competitors are a similar age
 * being the youngest to write the SAT, A-level, etc. exam (someone has to be the youngest)

 * The following do not meet verifiability standards:

 * blogs, personal websites, message boards, YouTube videos, newsletters
 * puff pieces (in either print or video) wherein a child is described as a prodigy

 * A potential candidate should be regarded as an intellectual or competitive peer by the adults in his/her field.

 * --Smerus (talk) 14:18, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I would refer you to the talk page archive, where consensus has been if a reliable source says they are a child prodigy, then they may be included in the list (especially if they have their own Wikipedia page). As for Tristan, this source can be used as I do not see any policy on wikipedia that excludes lists from being used as sources. There are other entries removed with much better sourcing, and I plan on restoring some of them as well. In the meantime, I have returned his entry. [Also, you seem to be making up notability requirements (for example, an exception is they have to have attended a competitive school?)] Subuey (talk) 23:08, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Tristan Pang
User:Subuey has reinstituted Tristan Pang on this list with two 'citations'. The two 'citations' are chatty newspaper articles. In both of these Pang is aged above 12, taking him beyond the definition in the article. Neither is an authoritative secondary source. Neither of them indicates in any way that Pang at the age of 10 or below produced "meaningful output in some domain to the level of an adult expert performer", as the article requires. It may be helpful for User:Subuey to read WP:Verifiability. If evidence cannot be provided, Pang cannot be listed here. Evidence, evidence, evidence. Otherwise the article simply becomes an accumulation of cruft.--Smerus (talk) 08:27, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:Verifiability states "Source material must have been published, the definition of which for our purposes is 'made available to the public in some form'", and the source is not self-published. Subuey (talk) 17:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * As you are still avoiding consideration of the age limits of the definition and issues of the quality of citation, I have referred this for a third opinion.--Smerus (talk) 20:22, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Many others also listed, like Tao and Ramanujan, do not satisfy the age limited either. According to your argument, the article clearly states "below 10" and thus should not list anyone with achievements at 10 or above. 2407:7000:9FAD:A400:BC41:CC62:A805:E026 (talk) 00:15, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I absolutely agree, and depending on consensus would delete those as well.--Smerus (talk) 12:00, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I would concur that Pang should stay removed and Ramanujan should be as well. While their contributions are indeed impressive, they fail the initial requirements of the article, as other have said, and by that alone do not belong on the list. I also find serious doubt in Picasso on this list, no citation is provided, and just a quick look at the picture that is used as justification makes it unlikely that many citations will be found. This source claims he was a child prodigy, but the main evidence seems to be from age 13. A talented artist nonetheless.  Aza24 (talk) 22:44, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Michael Kamen

Something
I was so sad to hear about Michael Kamen's death. One hopes always that good things are there to last and good people are always there. What can I say: "Thank you for the music"! --85.180.103.156 05:18, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Minor Removal
"His successes include his work with Pink Floyd, David Gilmour, Roger Waters (he is one of the few people to have been invited to work with both former Pink Floyd members, after their acrimonious split), Eric Clapton, David Bowie, Eurythmics, Queensrÿche, Rush, Metallica, Queen, Herbie Hancock, The Cranberries, Bryan Adams, Sting and Kate Bush"

I have removed "Queen" from this list, as Kamen never actually worked with them. The misunderstanding rests in the fact that Kamen wrote and conducted the orchestral score to the film Highlander (1986), whilst Queen wrote and performed the SONGS in that film. Their work was done separately, and no collaboration of any sort took place. 62.238.92.181 14:43, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, another anonymous editor put it back in, and rightly so. The credits to "Who Wants to Live Forever" list Kamen and May as arrangers of the orchestra featured in that song (live, the orchestral parts are replaced with a synth), so it's hard to maintain that "no collaboration of any sort took place". Even if Kamen did his work separately, the final product is a collaboration. Needless to say, "Who Wants to Live Forever" was a hit for Queen, so Kamen's contribution wouldn't be unimportant either. 82.95.254.249 23:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Moments of Pleasure
Someone has rightly tagged the original text as POV. I am elaborating objectively on the work and I hope someone can add to/proof what I've written. This was (for pop fans) an obvious tour-de-force for Kamen (given what he started with and what was obtained in the final product), so if anyone can find and cite a review it would surely please fans of both Kamen and Bush, as well as compliment his career acheivements.

I'm sure Kamen did an "S&M" type concert with Clapton as well, that was released on DVD, should possibly be mentioned in the other works section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.66.172 (talk) 04:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

please someone add a picture of him i want his memory to be there forever so if anyone has a picture please put it on thank you

Michael Kamen
I just wanted to add (if it's not already in there) please cite his magnificient work on Tom Hanks "Band of Brothers". I could listen to it everyday for hours. Tom's new series "The Pacific" (since Michael has passed on) of course had to use someone else's work - which is okay but I wish Michael could have sent a piece of heaven (music for the show) from heaven! Hope anyone reading this has heard the "Brother's" music,and if not, should find it and add it to your Kamen collection. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvinatplay (talk • contribs) 00:17, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Band of Brothers?
No reference to his score for Band of Brothers is mentioned on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.91.13.83 (talk) 23:46, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

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Former members of Pink Floyd?
His successes include his work with Pink Floyd, David Gilmour and Roger Waters (he is one of the few people invited to work with both former Pink Floyd members, even after their acrimonious split)[SNIP]. Was Gilmour ever a former member of Pink Floyd while Kamen was alive? I know Waters tried to block Gilmour, Wright and Mason's use of the Pink Floyd name, but he was unsuccessful. —71.105.243.101 (talk) 00:33, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Allen Adler

Ancestry
Editing from an IP, someone claiming (truthfully, I'll guess) to be Allen Adler's daughter Pamela indicated that Allen Adler's father was Abe Adler, stage manager, not Charles Adler, actor. But she left intact my statement that Allen Adler's father as the son of Yiddish theater star Jacob Adler by his mistress Jenny "Jennya" Kaiser. I'm confused.

 * Pamela, if you are reading this: Could you do me the favor of sorting this out a little further? I thought Abe Adler's mother was Sonya Adler, not Jennya Kaiser. So is the Jennya Kaiser thing here wrong, too? For what it's worth I had my information from Lulla Rosenfeld's book; Rosenfeld is also a Jacob Adler grandchild, and a fine writer but not the best fact-checker: I've caught her out in factual errors before, but not about her own family.-- Jmabel | Talk 05:18, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

I too am Allen Adler's daughter and as far as I know Sophia Solamanova was Abe's mother.--Allison Adler —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.108.209.239 (talk • contribs). Yes Abe was Sonya's son. True.--Allison Adler

 * So I take it that Allen was Abe's son, and Abe was, indeed, Sophia/Sonya's son. Right? - Jmabel | Talk 06:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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Floyd Reifer

Floyd Lamonte Reifer (born 23 July 1972) is a Barbadian cricketer and politician. He is a left-handed middle-order batsman and a right-arm medium pace bowler.

Reifer has played six Tests and eight One Day Internationals for the West Indies cricket team, spread over a home tour against Sri Lanka in 1997 and the 2009 edition of the ICC Champions trophy.

Ten years after playing his fourth Test match, Reifer was recalled to play for the West Indies on 9 July 2009. He captained an understrength team fielded by the West Indies against Bangladesh. This 15-man squad included nine uncapped players and seven West Indies players made their Test debut in the 1st Test which was played at Kingstown, St Vincent on 9–13 July 2009. The first XI had made themselves unavailable due to a pay dispute with the West Indies Cricket Board. The West Indies went on to lose the two Test series 2–0 and the three match One Day International series 3–0.

In 2002 Reifer played as an overseas professional for Scottish club side Ferguslie. He also played three matches for the Scottish Saltires as an overseas player in 2004. Of his 145 first-class matches, 85 have been for Barbados, with whom he has won six Carib Beer Cup titles.

Coaching career
Reifer was appointed head coach of the newly formed cricket team called Combined Campuses & Colleges in 2009. He played there as player-cum-coach. In April 2019, he was appointed as a head coach of West Indies national cricket team.

Politics
Reifer is active in Barbadian politics, and contested the 2020 St George North by-election as the candidate of the opposition Democratic Labour Party.

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Talk:James Bond/Archive 1

Film and Actor info
I think we should make it more clear of the distinction between the real/official Bond films/actors and the spoofs & unofficial versions. For example, David Niven & Casino Royale are spoofs, you can't possibly compare these with the true Bond films. Grunners 20:10, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Personal information
"In the movies he has a degree in Oriental Languages from Cambridge University, although this contradicts the information in the novels and the scene in Tomorrow Never Dies where Bond is unable to use a computer with a Chinese keyboard. "

is this really a contradiction? Just because you have a degree in something that doesn't mean you should know everything that's related to it. He could've specialized in Korean instead of Chinese while receiving that degree.

 * Also he may have concentrated on the spoken forms of Oriental languages but not the written, which are usually taught separately. (Ben W Bell 13:48, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC))

 * removed! Highwind 03:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Wa wa wa waah ... :-)

To me, Sean Connery was the only and best Bond.

 * No, in this you are mistaken: David Niven's Bond in Casino Royale was a masterpiece. sjc

Connery. :-)

 * He certainly is now seen as the definitive Bond. But Niven is much more tongue in cheek and more in keeping with the underlying irony in Fleming's novels. sjc

Irony! Fleming's Bond was cruel/vicious not ironic.

Moved here, because it's one person's idiosyncratic opinion written in first person style:

 * Many people prefer Sean Connery as Bond. His films are my favorites; I enjoy them enough that I can ignore the male chauvinism of the times they were made.  (Feminists beware:  character names "Pussy Galore", slapping women on the butt, etc.)  With Sean C. as the chavinist, I would let him get away with quite a lot myself!!  The later Roger Moore films are more tongue-in-cheek; I think the Sean Connery's are more realistic.  In Dr.No, the hero spy shows fear (tarantula!) and boredom.  In addition, he actually LOOKS hurt, instead of later films' heroes who never muss their hair or get dirty.  In addition, the villains are better; even the secondary henchmen are well done (Odd Job and a young Robert Shaw).  Favorite line is by Auric Goldfinger after Bond asks "Do you expect me to talk?"  Goldfinger: "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!"

As far as Wikipedia is concerned, more than likely your opinion doesn't count - a collective opinion, or the opinion of some noted critics, is. See the new neutral point of view page for discussion on this point. --Robert Merkel

 * As for the Goldfinger line - it doesn't end there, but in the film version the rest got left out. It went: "Do you expect me to talk?" "No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die!" "Well, then you can go and f--- yourself." "No, Mr Bond, not even I am capable of that!"

A list of the books (at least the Fleming originals) might be a good thing to add; also, how about some information on the copyright issues surrounding Blofeld, Never Say Never Again, etc.? (I will do these if/when I have time to research it properly but it's exactly the sort of thing some people know off the top of their heads) - Bth

"The Rough Guide to James Bond" ISBN 1-84353-142-9 addresses Blofeld (Kevin McClory owned the rights to him); which is why he is 'bumped off' during the opening of "For Your Eyes Only." Sparky

Not doubting that it's the case, but I'm just wondering how they rationalize it: How can he both be an orphan and have a family motto ('The World is Not Enough')? -- John Owens 23:36 23 Jun 2003 (UTC)

 * Just because both his parents are dead, it doesn't mean he doesn't know who they were. — Paul A 01:12 24 Jun 2003 (UTC)

 * Yeah, shortly after I asked, I realized that while I was en route. Was hoping I could retract the question before anyone noticed, but I see it's too late. ;) -- John Owens (away from home)

I was about to make a minor correction about Desmond Llewellyn (he wasn't in Live and Let Die) but I thought it simpler to move the info to Q's own page. DJ Clayworth 14:15, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)

''The Property of a Lady, 1991. Never made due to the legal issues surrounding EON at this time. '' What is EON? RickK 23:15, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 * The company that makes the films--(i think?). Alexandros 23:19, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 * Yes, Eon productions. See the official web site http://www.007.com . Chrysalis 18:40, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Removed the fan films as they were all either speculative, not yet produced, or in one case clearly in violation of copyright. DJ Clayworth 18:18, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

No, all of them were made except for "James Bond 2015", I checked all of them. Go to fanfilms.net's James Bond section and see for yourself, that's where I got my info.

Assuming you mean "Alligator" is in violation of copyright (in case that's the one you mean, sorry if it isn't), as it's a school-based production (it's technically my final for Advanced Filmmaking), copyright is overridden. (Or so the school told me...) Also, the authors of the book will be notified before any Internet release can take place; not to mention some people relatively close to the Bond business have been previously contacted, and are under the impression that it will not cause a serious problem. If need necessary, the movie will drop all references to James Bond and his surroundings.

Like I said, sorry to jump on you if it's not the one you meant, it's just something I worry about - I don't want it to be killed before it's born, if you know what I mean :-)

The adaptation of "Casino Royale" on the other hand is questionable, but from what I've heard, the EON people are fine with fan produced materials as long as there is no release outside of the Internet - which is why fanfilm sites make it clear that no videos or DVD's are available. I don't know if the rules for using an actual, licensed Fleming story are different or not. But otherwise, EON has not taken any action on fanfilms. (Fan-written stories are a different matter; Glidrose is not happy about those.)

 * Casino Royale was the 'copyright' one I was thinking of. Of the others, one said 'due to start filing in December 2003', the others 'to be produced'. Seriously, how many fan films are produced each year, and how many use 'James Bond' as a basis? DJ Clayworth 14:41, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

(P.S. It's normal to sign your postings ontalk pages - you can it conveniently by putting four tildes in a row ~ )

Oh, sorry for biting your head off then. I suppose about one a year - there hasn't been much of a James Bond fan film scene. I had an article describing mine here, but someone else deleted it (grrr....) Well, hope this tilde thing works: 151.201.140.39 17:31, 27 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Added a few bits then fell into some notions on tech improvement of the page:

 * Added some parody refs (mostly found on the de: Page) then found out that oops, maybe 'Parody', 'Other J.B. movies' and 'starring David Niven' should be collated somehow.
 * I consider Casino Royale parody. Well, maybe others object (although the article so far has it that Casino Royal is a spoof)
 * The de: version of the page involves the habit of using IMDb links. What about copying them?

00:26, 19 Mar 2004 - 62.180.204.140 (Sorry I'm being lazy at the moment...)

Bond villains
Is there a page on Bond villains ? Jay 17:30, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Yes, it's located here: Bond Villains K1Bond007

Self-parody
"... the successful 1990s revival with Pierce Brosnan in the lead role has increasingly turned the series into self-parody."

Can someone provide examples of self-parody ? Jay 17:30, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

A very early Hemingway novel called The Torrents of Spring, written to be so bad that it would break a publishing contract he wanted to get out of, is generally considered to be a self-parody. As the Bond movies went on and became more and more tongue-in-cheek, they too, I believe, are frequently called self-parody. But I'm no expert on them. Some critics have also called some of the very last Hemingway books to be unwitting self-parodies of his early work.Hayford Peirce 23:22, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * This question prompted me to start an article on self-parody. However, I didn't include The Torrents of Spring because reviews on the Web suggested that it was a parody of Sherwood Anderson's book Dark Laughter.  (And what about Turgenev?)  —JerryFriedman 22:24, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Ornothologist
Shouldn't the paragraph at the bottom about the ornothologist be on a seperate page? On this page there should be a link explaining that he was the basis for the Bond name. Grunners

 * Not necessary in this case, as there is only a little information on the ornithologist, and the ornithologist is primarily famous only as the namesake of the fictional spy. --Lowellian 20:10, May 17, 2004 (UTC)

I rewrote the article on the birder and provided a disambiguation at the top of this page. It's at James Bond (ornithologist). I believe the section here could now be deleted. PedanticallySpeaking 17:12, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)

 * Ok, I condensed the section and dropped it into Misc Trivia. K1Bond007 18:13, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Q
I removed Q's name from the link to Q, because the Q article deals with John Cleese Q whose name is clearly not Major Boothroyd. He's much better known as Q. DJ Clayworth 16:26, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Your arguement is right DJ,but we should write Q's name without any conflicts,for all of us Q is Desmond Llewelyn .--Sina 22:06, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Positive identification of Bond-21 as Casino Royale
As far as I know, there's been no official announcement made about the title of Bond-21, so why is it definitively listed as being called Casino Royale? Hig Hertenfleurst 22:35, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I think it IS official. look here http://imdb.com/title/tt0381061/ 12:09 2/3/2005 (CET)

 * Please note this discussion took place in early August. The page has since been updated with the official word that Casino Royale is Bond-21. K1Bond007 23:11, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

 * Link to the official press release. http://www.jamesbond.com/news/pressRelease20050203.html Ben W Bell 08:14, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Bond Bits
In my last edit I removed a part in the bond bits section that talked about how the number 007 came to be. I removed it for two reasons. 1) Because I didn't feel it was a "Bond Bit". Bond bits, as you can see from what the others describe are things that are always in a Bond movie. Bond saying "Bond, James Bond".. ordering a martini "Shaken not Stirred". That sort of thing. The history of how the number came to be is more part of 007's history or overview. 2) Because it was my long understanding that the number came from Riyard Kiplings stories about a train numbered "007". This is actually even stated in the article under James Bond Ornithologist, although it is my belief that this should be moved elsewhere in the article. If there are multiple stories of how the number came to be, by all means replace what I removed and add the Riyard Kipling part in the the Overview section. K1Bond007 20:51, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * I added a section called Miscellaneous Bond Trivia to hold this type of information. I have readded that story on the origins of the number as one possibility, and moved your story into the same section plus a couple of other bits and pieces that seemed to be irrelevant to their actual sections. (Ben W Bell 09:43, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC))

 * This sounds good to me. K1Bond007 16:13, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * We should not have contradictory information here. Personally I would like to see references given for things like origins of numbers, especially when it's something as obscure as this. DJ Clayworth 13:24, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * The problem with that is that there are so many contradictory stories on the origin of the number. I think we should have all the stories since no one but Fleming himself knows the truth. My one came from the official tour of Higham Park where Ian Fleming spent a lot of his time and did a lot of writing, and the 007 was the number of the coach from the 1940s right up until about 4 years ago and does indeed pass by in easy view of the main house. (Ben W Bell 13:45, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC))

Bond Vehicles
Should the "Bond Vehicles" section of the article be moved to it's own page ("List of James Bond vehicles" ??) where information on them can be expanded and some that aren't listed can be added? Just curious, what you guys think. K1Bond007 21:05, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Anyone object? I'm thinking since it's now been molded into "Gadgets" that we move it to another page "List of James Bond Gadgets" perhaps where we can list the gadgets and give more info on the vehicles. K1Bond007 22:54, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

Books to Screenplays
Under "Screenplays to Books" it lists 2 by Christopher Wood, The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker. Aren't these technically "Books to Screenplays" or based on the books by Ian Fleming? I realise that the two Screenplays are original works by Christopher Wood since they're nothing really similar at all to what happens in the Fleming novels, but were these actually books too besides the novels that Ian Fleming wrote? If they're not really books, shouldn't these be listed elsewhere? K1Bond007 21:03, Oct 31, 2004 (UTC)

 * I believe it's referring to the novelisations that Christopher Wood did of the two films to which he wrote original screenplays (Moonraker's film is mainly an original work, despite using a few elements from the novel), entitled "James Bond, The Spy Who Loved Me", and "James Bond and Moonraker", presumably to differentiate between the novelisations and Fleming's novels. Hig Hertenfleurst 23:46, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Ok thanks for clearing that up. Just wanted to make sure these were ACTUAL novelizations and not just screenplays.

Books/Movie differences
Shouldn't there be some brief info about the diffrences between the books and the movies?

 * I actually disagree. All of information between the books and the movies should be on the seperate movie/book articles. I think most people know that books adapted for film are never (or perhaps rarely) the same. K1Bond007 23:33, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * Just to add to the above, all the articles based on the individual Fleming Bond novels have been overhauled to include discussions of both the novels and the film versions. There isn't room to do that here as the main article is already well past the 32Kb limit set by Wikipedia. 23skidoo 18:28, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Inspiration
Should there be mention of William Stephenson (codename Intrepid)? Fleming trained in Stephenson's Camp X. "James Bond is a highly romanticized version of a true spy. The real thing is ...William Stephenson" -- Ian Fleming, The Times, October 21, 1962 BeavisSanchez

MI-7?
Although Bond is now a fictional agent of the real MI-6, am I right that the early Bond movies with Connery put hime as a member of a fictional  MI-7? Dainamo 01:23, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * No. I've seen the movies dozens of times and never noticed this. I believe the first Ian Fleming book, Casino Royale, also specifically mentions MI6 on a bio of SMERSH. The only thing I can think of to really support this claim is that you may be remembering some spoof of a James Bond film, perhaps even Casino Royale (TV or film) or perhaps something else. K1Bond007 23:27, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)

 * I think you'll find that James Bond is working for MI7 in the film version of Dr No. The organisation is frequently referred to as 'Her Majesty's Secret Service' and 'The (British) Secret Service' up until Goldeneye, when Trevelyan specifically asks Bond: "Still working for MI6, James?  I hear the new M is a lady."  Hig Hertenfleurst 00:59, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, and this coincides with them starting to use exterior shots of the real SIS Vauxhall Cross building as scene-setters. Hig Hertenfleurst 01:03, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Looking into the matter more, I popped in the DVD of Dr. No and Bernard Lee claims he is the head of MI7, however, this scene is dubbed or redeubbed since you can clearly see him saying MI6. (Scene occurs when the Quartermaster is in the room and M is explaining the negative side effects of using a Beretta.) So you guys are right. HOWEVER - in another scene prior to this one a radio operator clearly states something about contacting MI6. Some things to note: 1) There is no real MI7. 2) "Her Majesty's Secret Service" is another name for MI6. (See Wikipedia article on MI6 for support on this one). 3) According to a Google search there are no other mentions of MI7 in any other James Bond film or book. 4) Trevelyan never asks the question listed above to Bond in GoldenEye. It was Zukovsky. K1Bond007 01:50, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)

 * Pedant. ;-) Hig Hertenfleurst 04:03, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * In fact, if you're going to be that pedantic, I feel I should point out that MI7 did, in fact, exist at one time. I believe it dealt with Russia and the RSFSR after the Revolution.  Hig Hertenfleurst 04:10, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * First off I don't think I'm being that pedantic. I was stating well-known -current- facts. As far as MI7 goes, if you really want to get into it - it was a temporary subsection only lasting during the first World War. It dealt with propaganda. That's it. Unfortunately I lack more knowledge on the subject, otherwise I would have written a Wikipedia article on it since it's apparently missing. Otherwise it's fictional and hardly worth mentioning. Furthermore the MI7 stuff from Dr. No has been mentioned on countless websites with almost the same exact information I gave you (some with more, including the subtitles listing "MI6"). All this information has been added to the Dr. No movie article un trivia. K1Bond007 05:30, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)

 * The DVD release of Dr. No has a trailer in which M clearly says MI6. I read somewhere that for awhile it was actually illegal to mention MI6 in media, so maybe that's why that happened.23skidoo 18:31, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * In the novels, Bond works for the Secret Service, not MI6. I'll modify the article to reflect this. Even in the films, the notion that he is an MI6 agent only started with Brosnan in the role. james gibbon  00:21, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you are incorrect on both counts as he is frequently said to be an MI6 agent in the Gardner novels, and IIRC in Fleming as well, and as noted above he is explictly said to be an agent for MI6 in Dr. No, the movie. 23skidoo 00:34, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 23skidoo is correct. MI6 is referenced in Fleming's novels more so in the later books as MI6 was more of a "covert" (I suppose is the term?) name as previously mentioned. The Secret Service you speak of is MI6, it's just a name. See the article on Secret Intelligence Service. K1Bond007 01:27, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * I will admit I hadn't taken the Gardner books into account, but would be interested to see a reference to 007 working for MI6 in one of the Fleming novels? Page number if poss or general context ref - I've read them all and don't remember one. Many thanks james gibbon  17:54, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * As K1Bond007 says, I refer you to the SIS article. The term SIS is used frequently in the books, as is Secret Service and this is the same as MI6. The term was forbidden for awhile (much like actors won't say the name Macbeth) but the two names refer to the same organization. "From Russia with Love" refers to both MI5 and the Secret Service, indicating that the Secret Service is a level higher. 23skidoo 19:35, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, the term SIS is used in Fleming's books, and it's clear that this is the organisation for which Bond works. But it's not at all clear that, in the fictional 007 Universe, MI6 and SIS are the same thing. The term wasn't actually forbidden as far as I'm aware BTW, though it was never officially acknowledged to exist by the UK government until a few years ago. Personally, I suspect that Fleming would have used the term 'MI6' in his novels if that had been his intention. Most tellingly, MI6 never had a headquarters overlooking Regents' Park, but at the time of Fleming's novels were based in St James Street. james gibbon  19:55, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Not exactly sure where you're going to take this out of. It is always assumed that Bond works for MI6. The British Secret Service or the SIS is MI6. You need to read that page. It's MI6 (technically) in the film Dr. No and is blatantly stated as such from GoldenEye on. I wouldn't remove it at all. In fact I very much oppose this given post-Fleming novels that I know for sure reference MI6 (as well as the films mentioned aboved). K1Bond007 20:05, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

 * I've already noted that Bond became an MI6 agent in the Brosnan films, and accept that he may have done in some of the Gardner or Benson novels. You say "it's assumed" that Fleming's SIS is the same as MI6, but by whom? I really don't think it was Fleming's intention, otherwise he'd have mentioned it, and used the genuine location - as you surely know, he was a stickler for details, and it wasn't a national secret. I grant you, SIS is the same as MI6 in the real world, but in the real world there's no 00 section, no 'licence to kill', and no SIS headquarters overlooking Regents Park. Unless Fleming knew something we didn't, but if he did he wouldn't have put it in his books. james gibbon  22:30, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that it was illegal to use the term MI6 in media in the 1950s-early 60s. So the terms SIS and Secret Service were used instead. This is why Bernard Lee is overdubbed "MI5" when he really said "MI6" in Dr. No (the uncensored dialogue can be heard in a special feature on the DVD). (And to say Bond works for MI5 is most certainly wrong because MI5 was prohibited from working outside the UK, just as MI6, technically, cannot work within the country, but that's an error that was corrected later.) Similarly, John Drake in Danger Man had to work for M9 rather than MI6. So for Fleming not to mention MI6 by name in the early novels (though I'm certain he does so in one of the later ones) is in keeping with the law of the land at the time. Every reference book I have ever seen on the subject (The Bond Files by Lane and Simpson, for random example) makes the connection and states outright that Bond is an MI6 agent in the Fleming stories. 23skidoo 22:37, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I do believe you mean that the line was dubbed to "MI7", not "MI5", as mentioned above and in The Bond Files. Ah, pedantry... Hig Hertenfleurst 23:10, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * My error. Beg pardon. Interestingly, the subtitles on the DVD still say MI6. 23skidoo 23:44, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

First off I don't know whether 23skidoo is right about it being illegal, but I can tell you that British Government technically didn't officially acknowledge MI6 until 1994. One such source says: ''However, for many years this most secretive of government departments was not officially acknowledged. It wasn't until 1994, when the Intelligence Services Act was passed under the then Prime Minister John Major, that its official role was acknowledged and defined.'' BBC

From the Secret Intelligence Service: During the Second World War SIS first began to be referred to as 'MI6' when, under a reorganization of military intelligence at the War Office, the War Office circulating section acquired the Military designation MI6 (within SIS it was termed Section VI).

Under SIS building: ''In July 1988 Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher approved the purchase of the new building for the SIS. At this stage the government proposed to pay for the building outright in order to maintain secrecy over the intended use of the site. It is important to note that at this time the existence of MI6 was not officially acknowledged.''

From the intro: The Secret Intelligence Service (SIS), more commonly known as MI6 (originally Military Intelligence [section] 6), or Her Majesty's Secret Service or just the Secret Service, is the British external security agency.

So there it is. K1Bond007 01:43, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * Indeed, there it is - in the real world, as I've already acknowledged. However I was referring to Fleming's works of fiction james gibbon  10:59, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * True, but as you stated above, Fleming bases his work on fact so it wouldn't make sense for him to create a fictional SIS. As an aside, I think you're been doing excellent work in polishing this article. Nicely done. 23skidoo 15:29, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * thanks! appreciate that james gibbon  20:32, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Fleming worked for the Naval Intelligence branch of the secret service aka MI6 during WW2. It's highly unlikely he would make up a fictional organization when he had full knowledge of the workings of the real thing. You have to remember that it is -based- on the real thing, it is not the real thing. Fleming, probably more than anyother author at the time was heavily scrutinized under the Official Secrets Act, which he notes a number of times. This has all been covered by hundreds of books down to details and similarities between M and Mansfield Smith-Cumming aka C. You should look into reading up on Fleming. Try The Life of Ian Fleming and The James Bond Bedside Companion, both have excellent biographies on him. I don't think you'll find much information, if any at all, that says Fleming didn't base it on the real thing. This is a very widely known fact. K1Bond007 17:28, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * I didn't suggest that it wasn't based on the real thing; I'm suggesting that it's not the same as the real thing. As I've already pointed out, he could have used the real location of MI6 headquarters in his novels if he'd wanted to. He could also have used the term 'MI6', which has been in common usage in the UK for as long as I can remember, including in works of fiction, even it its existence wasn't officially acknowledged until relatively recently.

 * I suspect that Fleming felt that a different, fictional secret service - albeit based on the real one, as you rightly state - would give him greater licence for his dramatic inventions: the 00 section, Universal Exports and so on. james gibbon  19:02, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * No he couldn't have used their real location if he wanted to. That would be in violation of the Official Secrets Act (that was the meat of my last edit here). Do you have any proof to back up your claim? Seriously, beyond your own suspicion? K1Bond007 19:22, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * Interesting point about the Official Secrets Act, but are you sure the location was an official secret? To answer your question : like you I don't have 'proof' to support my position, but I do have evidence, as I've already noted. In particular, don't you find it slightly odd that (unless I'm mistaken) Fleming never mentions the term MI6 in any of his novels? I don't want to sound too emphatic about this as it's not something I can be certain of; it's merely a strong suspicion - but the evidence does tend to support my point of view. james gibbon  19:58, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * No, not really; MI6 was never the official name of the organization. He did, however, use other references to it including "Her Majesty's Secret Service," which is another common name associated with the SIS/MI6. Fleming had a penchant for using certain words and phrases - I always got the feel "Her Majesty's Secret Service" was one of those as is 'spectre'. Theres enough information that Fleming gives away for anyone to come to the conclusion that the org that Bond works for is SIS/MI6/Her Majesty's Secret Service etc. K1Bond007 21:08, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

 * We'll just have to disagree about that, I'm afraid. By the way, as far as I'm aware the term "Her Majesty's Secret Service" is only used by Fleming in the title of OHMSS, as a pun on the old phrase "On Her Majesty's Service" which was printed on mundane postal items sent by the government as O.H.M.S - tax letters and so on. The Secret Service has never really been known as "Her Majesty's Secret Service", although some have picked this up from the title of OHMSS - ironically really, since it's only meant as a play on words. james gibbon  23:38, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually no, he mentions it a couple of times, not just in the title, and not just in book OHMSS. Secret Intelligence Service also claims that SIS is also known as "Her Majesty's Secret Service", so if thats wrong you better argue it there. I guess we're going to just have to disagree. This discussion is really going nowhere. Sorry K1Bond007 02:16, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)
 * My own sympathies in turn, however I don't believe that's correct. Never mind james gibbon  12:05, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Nonsensical movie titles
Is there any way of removing the titles La Resurrection du Dragon and The Green Jade Mahjongg from the James Bond Movies list? I can't get in there to edit it. I've never heard of these films and can't find any information and no one has bothered to create articles for them. 23skidoo 18:31, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * See your talk page. Personally, that template should be deleted. It's the same thing as Template:Bond movies. Only Casino Royale and Never Say Never Again need to be added to it at the bottom or something. K1Bond007 18:53, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)]

 * Much obliged. I went ahead and deleted those two titles but I'll leave the template for now until I (or someone else, of course) have a chance to check to see where this one is linked so it can be replaced with the other template. I left Property of a Lady on there too, but added a notation that it was an unmade film. 23skidoo 18:56, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * The "what links here" claims: James Bond, Property of a Lady, Never Say Never Again, and Casino Royale. K1Bond007 19:03, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

Merge?
"Bond bits" and "Miscellaneous Trivia" seem to overlap.
 * I don't know if merging is necessary, as Bond Bits deals directly with James Bond while Misc Trivia deals with other James Bonds and inspirations. That said there are a couple of trivia items dealing with the origin of the name that could be moved to Bond Bits. Thoughts? 23skidoo 03:24, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Bond bits are things found in virtually ever Bond film. The gun barrel scene. My name is Bond, James Bond. Vodka Martini. etc etc. Things that make Bond - Bond. Perhaps the name needs to be changed, but thats how that's been going. It IMO needs to be moved above "Bond characters" though. The Trivia is more background "where'd it come from" stuff that is pretty irrelevant to the character or novels/films. It's just extra information. The two IMO shoud be seperate. K1Bond007 04:23, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)

Real life models for Bond
I have already put up a request for a wikipedia article on Fitzroy MacLean, and I'm very surprised they didn't already have one...

There have been a variety of real life models for Bond suggested --

 * Fitzroy MacLean, Scottish adventurer, spy etc in the Balkans

 * James Bond. Yes an actual James Bond DID exist, and he even went to the same school as him Fettes College. He was in the SBS and a frogman, whereas the fictional JB has a naval background.

Feel free to add any more. I think there may be as many as five. Worth their own section, and FMacL worth his own article.

Restoring cut material
Someone clearly went on an editing spree after Christmas. I know the article is too long by Wikipedia standards, but things like categories and links need to be added so we can find the cut material. I think separate pages on things like James Bond Parodies and even Bond Trivia is a good idea, however. For the time being I have restored all the cut that was below the Brosnan films listing as of 27 December. There may be other sections missing from earlier revisions. 23skidoo 02:55, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Personally, I forsee that Bond may have to be cut into movies vs novels. I think thats where we're heading and ultimately have to do. Cutting the Parodies to "List of James Bond parodies" might be a temporary solution until we can define how we want the page to be. We could also shorten the "Bond characters" section by just putting a See: List of James Bond villains, List of James Bond allies, Bond girls etc instead of listing the main ones. Characters like M, Q, Moneypenny, Leiter and Blofeld should be mentioned in some way already in the Overview Bond bio sections. So theres really no loss there. K1Bond007 03:45, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

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Talk:Johnny Mathis

Native American?
He's in Native American categories, but there's nothing in the article to support this. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:51, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Removed the categories. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:13, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Brazilian origin?
In the "Early life and education" it is written that Johnny Mathis "is from Brazilian and Spanish origins." I had never heard about his brazilian origins! From which source comes this info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.61.108.131 (talk) 21:02, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Sold 360M+ records worldwide?
I could not find this fact in other sources, and it is not cited here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.68.81.189 (talk) 05:56, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

 * I'd removed it before, then an IP restored. Have removed again. I will have to watch this page more closely. Rodericksilly (talk) 23:29, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This information is in the top-level paragraph again, describing him as the third best-selling artist of the 20th century, but that seems completely inaccurate based on any other sources I can find. The paragraph says "According to Guinness Music writer and charts historian Paul Gambaccini" but there is no citation. 2600:4041:5BFD:6F00:5441:1056:2946:B4B7 (talk) 16:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Just removed the sentence. 2600:4041:5BFD:6F00:5441:1056:2946:B4B7 (talk) 16:08, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Johnny Mathis Singer ..,deceased 2011.
Update info: Singer Johnny Mathis is deceased since Sept 2011. 97.34.70.38 (talk) 22:22, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

 * Nonsense. He's still performing. https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/keith_spera/article_8076278a-99fc-11ec-b684-4729ffc4f26d.html
 * Don't cause trouble on Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 00:48, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Himeji Castle

Number of workers
The article currently claims that at least 30 million people were involved in the construction. The source is page 23 of this PDF. ''Citation Needed, PDF invalid. ''What it says is

"Ikeda Terumasa began to build the castle in its present form in 1601. It took 8 years. We don’t know the exact number of workers, but the standard number of soldiers mobilized for a war was 200 per 10,000 Koku. Counting on this scale, the number of construction workers would reach over 50 million. It can be estimated that there were at least 30 million workers over the years."

I don't know what the population of Japan was at the start of the 17th century, but apparently it was around 35 million in 1870 (File:Population of Japan since 1872.svg). It seems unlikely that the population two and a half centuries earlier would have exceeded this figure so the statement that at least 30,000,000 workers were involved with the construction of Himeji is implausible. While user:109.153.178.71's suggested figure is more reasonable, without a reliable source supporting it I think it's best to leave out the number of workers and just go with man-days. Nev1 (talk) 00:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and removed the (incorrect) estimation on the number of workers. ROG5728 (talk) 03:56, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Photo of the Castle
I took the liberty of updating the main photo of the castle with my own version. The castle’s roof is much whiter now after the renovation that was finished in spring of 2015. Maybe that fact should also be mentioned in the caption of the older pictures. I don’t have any experience contributing here so please correct my approach if I did things the wrong way and let me know about it. Nubero (talk) 16:49, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have added a sentence where the renovation is mentioned in article explaining the now white color. --Mps (talk) 11:47, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

moat
why is it called "3 country"?68.148.186.93 (talk) 06:58, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Ikeda Terumasa completed Himeji Castle with using workers from three countries,Harima, Bizen, and Awaji, and it was named after that.---Seattleite7 (talk) 12:02, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

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Carlton Draught: Big Ad

Carlton Draught: Big Ad is an Australian television advertisement for Carlton Draught pale lager. It was created by George Patterson and Partners (Young & Rubicam) of Melbourne, Australia. The agency used viral marketing techniques to promote the advertisement before it was broadcast on television. The ad premiered on Australian television on August 7, 2005.

Content
Two choirs, one clad in maroon choir uniforms and the other in yellow choir uniforms (with some others wearing black, blue and white), charge each other while singing new lyrics to the classic melody tune of "O Fortuna" from Carl Orff's Carmina Burana. Viewed from the air, one choir forms the shape of Carlton Draught beer glass and the other forms the shape of a human body with choir singers in white, blue & black to form the figure's eyes & teeth with additional choir singers in white to form the beer's head. The figure of the glass is then lifted to the mouth of the human figure and the audience sees the "beer"—rushing, ecstatically leaping, yellow-clad choir singers—flowing into the stomach of the large body. The view then zooms into the crowd of choir singers (now all raising their Carlton Draught beer) to focus on one man's glass. A caption then appears below it saying, "Made from Beer", and the commercial fades out.

The lyrics to the ad are as follows: "It's a big ad. Very big ad. It's a big ad we're in.  It's a big ad.  My God it's big!  Can't believe how big it is!  It's a big ad!  For Carlton Draught!  It's just so freaking HUGE!  It's a big ad!  Expensive ad!  This ad better sell some bloo-oo-oo-oody beer!"

Big Ad parodies the visual style of battle sequences in such films as Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy with sweeping, larger-than-life panoramas of rugged mountain terrain. It is also reminiscent of the grandiose commercials pioneered by the likes of Qantas and British Airways.

Viral marketing
The company decided to use a viral campaign because of the distracting environment in which television is viewed and the fragmented audiences of traditional media. (Lee, 2005, p. 29) Two weeks prior to being broadcast on television, the advertisement was streamed on the Internet. Within 24 hours after release, the "Big Ad" had been downloaded 162,000 times (Frilingos, 2005, p. 8). Within two weeks, it had been seen by over one million viewers in 132 countries (Lees, 2005). This campaign was widely covered in the press. The viral release of the "Big Ad" was so successful that the company reduced its television media budget so as not to overexpose the advertisement. (Lee, 2005, p. 29)

Awards
The advertisement has since received over 30 awards globally, including a prestigious Gold Lion award at the 53rd Cannes Lions International Advertising Festival in 2006.

Technical acknowledgements
Agency: George Patterson and Partners, Melbourne
 * Creative Director: James McGrath
 * Art Director: Grant Rutherford
 * Writer: Ant Keogh
 * Producer: Pip Heming
 * Group Communications Director: Paul McMillan

Production: Plaza Films
 * Director: Paul Middleditch
 * Executive Producer: Peter Masterton
 * DOP: Andrew Lesnie (Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring)

Post- Production: Animal Logic
 * VFX Supervisor: Andrew Jackson
 * Senior Compositor: Angus Wilson
 * VFX Producer: Caroline Renshaw

 * Editor: Peter Whitmore - Winning Post Productions
 * Music: Cezary Skubiszewski

 * Location: Queenstown, New Zealand
 * Cast: 300 locals (who played poker with peas during breaks)

To create large (tens of thousands of people) crowds for the ad MASSIVE software with semi-independent AI actors from Weta Digital was used.

Other references

 * Canning, S. (2005) "Business Big Shot", The Australian: Finance, 23 Jul., p. 34.
 * Frilingos, M. (2005) "As big as … a Carlton beer ad", The Daily Telegraph: Local, Jul. 23, pg.8.
 * Lee, J. (2005) "Very big ad shows why we still call Carlton a beer", The Sydney Morning Herald: Business, 28 Jul., pg.29.
 * Lees, N. (2005) "Big ad hits one millionth viewer", Adnews, 29 Jul.
 * Sophocleous, A., and Cubito, A. (2005) "Clients catch the viral bug", Adnews, August 12, 2005, p. 6.

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