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While "exclusivity" has indeed never been an officially-adopted doctrine of the Church of God of Prophecy, it may be somewhat disengenuous to allow such to stand as is. Indeed, it is indisputable that many significant "officially-sanctioned" writings and documents of the group strongly endorses the idea that the body actually represents to the world as being the actual Church that Christ Himself established in Matthew 16:18. Indeed, the title of the three-volume work, "Upon This Rock" (C.T. Davidson, former officially, Church-appointed historian), may convey to the most discreet student certain more accurate and definitive facts with regard to the organization and its long-term and well established sub-beliefs regarding itself and exclusivity.

(Please note that such beliefs - especially when encouraged "unofficially" by key leadership - are often just as strong and powerful among true believers as are those acts that may be adopted in official corporate business acts and resolutions.)

The above may also tend to be somewhat willingly less than clear with regard to A.J. Tomlinson and his personal role(s) as shown.

Church of God of Prophecy writings and documents - many of these appearing with the groups official seal of approval - clearly show that Tomlinson's personal importance is/was much more than that of being a simple consultant to or with Spurling, Bryant and others. In fact, it is of record that on the morning of June 13, 1903, A.J. Tomlinson experienced a personal transformation or revelation that essentially became symbolic of a similar and more well-known incident involving Moses.

Essentially, Tomlinson believed - or, came to believe and announce later - that on the morning of June 13, 1903, he personally and individually received the revelation of the restoration and mission of the "Last-Days Church." Just as Moses had climbed Mt. Sinai and received significant and critical revelation of/from God (the Law of God to Israel, His chosen people), Tomlinson had climbed Burger Mountain in North Carolina for a season of personal prayer and unexpectedly received the applicable, modern-day revelation, i.e., God's direct guidance and plans for the re-establishment of the "Last-Days Church." According to this idea then, Spurling and Bryant may be regarded more as Joshua and Caleb vs. Tomlinson's caricature of Moses, "the principal." And again, such is not presented as being simple alternative views or assumptions; the Church of God of Prophecy has indeed allowed such "unsubstantiated, general thoughts and ideas" to permeate its more faithful, basic and core members, especially those in and of North America. And this, in countless official, Church-sanctioned writings and meetings. (In and/or around 1990, the group "did indeed" begin making certain clarifications and plans for its future service; but to suggest that only a few, or, that an occasional, "older minister or two" might have preached "exclusivity" out of personal zeal or even ignorance may be somewhat less than truthful.

And, it is of written record that once Tomlinson agreed to join Spurling and Bryant's group as an official member, he did so only after he was assured that said group accepted the idea that it was indeed devoting its most key efforts and focus upon being the exact and true, single Church. He received from them an agreement that "it" (that tiny church group that he was to join) were to function as "the Church of the Bible." This church was known as the Holiness Church of Camp Creek. It had been established in North Carolina by Bryant, at the urging of Spurling, on May 15, 1902. Spurling pastored the "mother" church called the Christian Union at Barney Creek about 5 miles away in Monroe County, Tennessee. These two local congregations were for people excluded from Baptist churches in the area because they preached and practiced a doctrine of "Holiness." Tomlinson joined in June 1903 and was chosen to lead them. Tomlinson served as the highest leader of that group presently known as the Church of God of Prophecy for 40 years(from 1903 - 1943), always believing that he was the head of a group that was destined indeed to be the actual and true Church that Christ began. His son, M.A. Tomlinson, followed him as leader and he served for 40 + years. Therefore, it is difficult to not understand that for almost a century, a primary, invigorating common belief of most Church of God of Prophecy members was that they were members of the only true Church.

For Further Study and Interest Please See:

"A.J. Tomlinson" by Lillie Duggar

"Upon This Rock" by C.T. Davidson

Also, contact the Church of God of Prophecy at:

423.559.5100 OR at:  www.cogop.org

and request copies of Church materials, including simple and basic Church tracts (especially those of/from 1990 and previously. Obviously, some of these may have been discontinued.  If the general offices may be unable to provide pre-1990 materials, contact local churches.  Many/Most will probably have such items on hand.)

Also, search the Internet for The Church of God, Charleston, TN (be sure to include the entire title.) This is the basic group that split from the Church of God of Prophecy in and/or around 1990 and accordingly then, their website may provide excellent ideas and assertions that may serve to better prove the actual practices of the Church of God of Prophecy regarding it and the issue of exclusivity.)

--Posted by Trebass, 22 October 2007 (moved from article to Talk page by Orlady)

The Church of God of Prophecy does NOT have a "fully accredited college." This comment needs to be removed. JaxJaguar 03:00, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

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Le Bocage International School

Le Bocage International School (LBIS) is an English-medium, private international school offering educational services to boys and girls from the ages of 11–19.

LBIS was founded in 1990 and is located at Mount Ory, Moka (Mauritius). LBIS is an IBO school that offers the International Baccalaureate Program for the Middle Years, form 1–5, and the Diploma years, form 6–7. It also prepares students for the IGCSE and the International Baccalaureate examinations.

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The school has more than forty teaching rooms including four science laboratories (physics laboratory, chemistry laboratory, biology laboratory), three computer rooms, two art studios, three Design & Technology workshops, a home economics laboratory and a large purpose-built library with a host of about 9,500 resources ranging from science books to fictional books with a floor dedicated to online research. In addition it has facilities such as a music room, a recording studio as well as a theatre in its new performing arts building.

Outdoor facilities include a playing field, outdoor hard court surfaces and a multi-purpose sports hall, completed in 2001, which also functions as an auditorium for the many special events held each year such as International Night, Graduation Ceremony and National Day.

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Students are enrolled in Forms 1–7 (UK years 7–13, US grades 6–12) that comprise approximately twenty-seven nationalities. Students come from a wide variety of social and cultural backgrounds, and most are bilingual. 89% of the students are Mauritian.

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LBIS is accredited by the Mauritian Ministry of Education and is a fully accredited member of the Council of International Schools (CIS)

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LBIS is operated by PROGOS, a non-profit making company that exists solely for the purpose of offering an English medium international education. The board of directors is the ultimate authority and delegates management of the school to the Headmaster.

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The school employs approximately seventy qualified teachers, many of which hold postgraduate qualifications in education. There are also librarians, careers counsellors, guidance counsellors, an inclusion team and a nurse. Curriculum responsibilities are shared by Heads of department in eight key learning areas and the coordinators of the IB Middle Years, IGCSE, IB Careers-related Programme and IB Diploma Programmes of study.

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The school is an English medium school.

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The school prepares students for higher education in Mauritius, or abroad. There are three developmental levels of learning adopted, which are as follows:

 * Forms 1–3 Contents Standards Framework Curriculum based on 8 key learning areas
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 * Forms 6–7 The IB Diploma Programme (DP) or IB Careers-related Programme (CP) with B-TECH coursework specializing in Business or Physical Education.

In 2019 the school achieved a score of 95.5% in the International Baccalaureate examination, an increase from 85.7% in 2015.

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Gopher (Winnie the Pooh)

Gopher is a fictional grey anthropomorphic gopher character who first appeared in the 1966 Disney animated film Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree. He has a habit of whistling out his sibilant consonants, one of various traits he has in common with the beaver in Lady and the Tramp, by whom he may have been inspired.

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Gopher was the only character in the original shorts that was an original character and not based on a character from the A.A. Milne books, a fact he notes in his first appearance when he says "I'm not in the book, you know!" Instead, he was initially developed by Disney as a replacement for Piglet, although it was ultimately decided to keep Piglet involved in the stories as well as use Gopher. Apparently, the proposed character of Gopher was thought to have a more "folksy, all-American, grass-roots image" than Piglet. While American audiences loved the character, British audiences were less pleased.

Like most Winnie-the-Pooh characters, Gopher is named after his own species.

Gopher is also known for his unique voice characterization. He tends to whistle his consonants, particularly his S's. This is lampshaded in his debut; when Pooh mimics Gopher while asking for honey, Gopher tells Pooh he should do something about the speech impediment he himself has, before handing him the honey.

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Gopher has a fairly brash, bolshie personality, with a tendency to talk in circles. Though presenting himself as a helpful handyman, he often rambles, dodges questions, and gives bad advice which usually leads to misunderstandings resulting in others becoming annoyed and refusing his service or vice versa. He is rarely seen outside of his burrow so not much is known about him socially. He is also quite easily offended, repeatedly storming off to his burrow and comedically falling down his mine shafts in these instances. Though short-tempered, he is shown to be a very skilled, hard worker, especially in his mine shafts (tunnels) and spends most of his time tediously working on them. He is also genuinely resourceful at times and shown to have a surprisingly tender and thoughtful side, such as when he remembers how his Grandpappy's forgotten lifelong dream of building an above-ground-underground city, and takes this project upon himself to please his Grandpappy. Despite his low social life, when Gopher does make an appearance he is constantly running at the mouth; with his trademark speech impediment of whistling out his sibilant consonants.

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While he never made appearances in any episodes of Welcome to Pooh Corner, Gopher was fleshed out a bit further in the television series The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. He is portrayed as generally hard-working, especially in his tunnels (which he inevitably falls into at least once). He does not appear in the original books Winnie-the-Pooh and The House at Pooh Corner by A. A. Milne (a fact that is regularly pointed out in Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree, when he breaks the fourth wall by saying he's "not in the book, y'know", also trying to say that he would not be in a phone book). Gopher's voice was originally done by Howard Morris, who retired from the role and was replaced by Michael Gough.

Gopher's other appearances in Winnie the Pooh-related media include the television specials A Winnie the Pooh Thanksgiving, Winnie the Pooh: A Valentine for You, and Boo to You Too! Winnie the Pooh, the direct-to-video film A Very Merry Pooh Year, and the video game Winnie the Pooh: 123's.

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Talk:University of Bologna

Pablo Iglesias Turrión, Secretary-General of Podemos
It seems that the listing of P.I. Turrión as notable alumni is wrong. I can't find any sources for that. It seems he studied in Madrid and did his PhD there too. I think this needs at least a source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.239.22.253 (talk) 23:49, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Not the oldest university?
Not sure how we define 'University' but the University of al-Karaouine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_al-Karaouine which was founded long before the University of Bologna which would make it the oldest university in the world? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.101.167.161 (talk) 01:40, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Just to support that it is not the oldest university, There is also Ez-Zitouna University, which is still operating and older than al-Karaouine and Bologna University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Ez-Zitouna — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.55.83.238 (talk) 17:15, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Ez-Zitouna was founded as a madrasa and didn't become a university until 1956. And by definition madrasas are not, and never have been, universities. Thomas.W talk 17:44, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Proposed resolution: After the assertion about being the oldest university: "It is not the oldest degree-granting institution in the world; that distinction belongs to the University of al-Karaouine according to UNESCO and the Guiness Book of World Records." Triplingual (talk) 23:16, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Al-Karaouine being claimed as the oldest degree-granting institution in the world is totally irrelevant to this article, and deserves no mention here, since it takes a lot more than just granting degrees to be a university (per the mainstream definition of "university"). Making any comparison between Al-Karaouine and the University of Bologna, or any other mediaeval university, a comparison between apples and oranges. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 11:42, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I think it might be more apples and crabapples. In other words, I expect that the average (en-US) reader reads a claim of being the oldest university as being a claim of being the oldest institution of higher education. It's not that you can't get to the distinction and the use of 'university' here as a term of art rather than in its conventional (en-US) use from this article, but it's more than a click away. As it says in the Wikipedia article on writing better articles, "If [the article's] subject is amenable to definition, then the first sentence should give a concise definition: where possible, one that puts the article in context for the nonspecialist. Similarly, if the subject is a term of art, provide the context as early as possible." Though the University of Bologna itself is not a term of art, one of the key aspects of its notability is, and that should get contextualized. Triplingual (talk) 15:37, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter what the "average (en-US) reader" thinks, we're an encyclopaedia, striving to provide information about just about anything that is as factually correct as humanly possible, not a site with easy-to-read information for average readers. And Al-Karaouine, Es-Zitouna and all the others were founded as madrasahs, which weren't, aren't and never have been universities by the mainstream definition of a (mediaeval) university, i.e. the one that we go by, and thus don't deserve a mention in an article about the University of Bologna. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 16:16, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

 * Re. your continuing reversions, please see this^^^ discussion; sums it up excellently.  ——  SerialNumber  54129  16:33, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

 * Re. User talk:Thomas.W is wrong. He is putting his own bias opinion into this. He says that those institutions were founded as madrasahs but he is factually wrong because they were degree granting institutions for both religious and non religious sciences that is why Guinness Book of Record recognized it as such so did Encyclopedia Britannica. In fact his comment is laughable to any historian or academic because the word madrasah simply means school in Arabic. That is like me saying Harvard Law School is not a university because it has the word school in it. He has a bias Eurocentric view on history and likes to white wash historical facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afg96 (talk • contribs)
 * One of the criteria that defines a university is that the degrees are granted by the university and to a for all universities common standard, which automatically excludes madrasahs, since degrees at madrasahs are granted by individual teachers to their own individual standards. So no, madrasahs are not, and have never been, universities... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 18:43, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You seem to be poorly educated on the subject. First of all the word madrasahs simply means school! It is an Arabic word just like we refer to HLS (Harvard Law School) as a school so did people back in the day referred to all educational facilities as madrasahs! Secondly what sets University of Karueein from regular schools is that the degree was granted by the head of the school not individual teacher as you mentioned. I don't know where you came up with that, probably made it up I assume. Secondly even if University of Karueein is not considered a university University of Bologna would still not be considered the oldest university because Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt was created in 970. Furthermore the hypocrisy here is unfathomable. University of Bologna itself used to be a Catholic bishop school that did not grant degrees only titles that were granted to students by their respective bishops, I wonder why you don't hold University of Bologna to the same standard? Hm.... maybe it is due to your Eurocentric world view? And lastly having visited Bologna recently I never met an Italian that said, this university is the oldest university in the world. I think even the Italian version of the wiki does not purport such a fallacious statement. Also as mentioned before Guiness Book of Record recognized University of Karueein due to the fact that it was the oldest DEGREE granting institution! Which confirms my initial statement that the degrees were awarded to student by the school itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afg96 (talk • contribs)
 * I know what madrasah means, and also know what a madrasah is and how degrees were/are granted there (and Guinness Book of World Records isn't an authority on anything, and doesn't trump scientific/academic sources). Mediaeval madrasahs were not universities, period, since they lacked the most defining characteristic of a university, i.e. degrees granted by the university as a whole, and to a standard that was common for all mediaeval universities, so that a degree granted by one university was recognised also by all other universities. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 19:23, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think you do, you make no sense whatsoever. University of Bologna itself would be considered a madrasa. You seem to have a racist right wing view on history. Let me guess you are an old grumpy American? Am I right? Have you even been to Bologna? Probably not. You still haven't proved to me that University of Karueein did not grant degrees where are your proofs? Secondly Guiness sends agents to investigate each claim before they put anything in their text books, their text books can be used as an academic source. Secondly Encyclopedia Britannica says the same thing if you want further proof. Let me ask you what are your educational credentials if you even have any? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afg96 (talk • contribs)
 * That's total hogwash. Don't discuss things you obviously know nothing about. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 19:37, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * University of Al Quaraouiyine was established a century before Bologna. Get over it. Xycksa (talk) 09:52, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * No, the University of Al Quaraouiyine was established in 1963, before then it was a madrasah, and madrasahs are not, and have never been, universities, for the reasons given further up in this discussion... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 11:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Here we are again. The intro has been changed with unsourced content claiming that other were the first universities. So these are the criteria: a university covers everything not just or mainly religious matters, and the separation is somewhat coded and granted. Scholars and professors have a specific organization. Scholars already had higher education. Degrees are granted by universities, not individuals, and are legally recognized. So if sources (stating that these criteria were all met by the Asian Universities) are not provided within 3 days, I am going to challenge the added content and remove it. TriangoloDiTartaglia (talk) 16:14, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

 * It's easy to see what's going on here. Someone wants to exclude madrasahs founded before 1088 from contention for "oldest university", so they researched for some characteristics of grown-ups' schools that are (a) possessed by European universities founded at and after 1088 and (b) are NOT possessed by the madrasahs in dispute. After noting the differences between the madrasahs and the medieval European schools, the cherry-picker then tailor-made a so-called "definition" of "university" that would exclude the madrasahs in dispute from meeting the definition of "universities", thereby leaving the title of "oldest university" for Bologna. Everyone who reads this talk-page will see that that is "cherry-picking data" (about which I believe there is a Wikipedia article). "One of the criteria that defines a university is ...". WHO SAYS that that is one of the criteria? YOU say it, but the REASON you say it is not because you believe it to be true or essential, but, rather, so that you won't have to admit that the madrasahs in dispute are universities older than Bologna's. I'd never encountered this definition of "university" before I saw it on this talk-page, and I suspect nobody else had either. Perhaps, when the founders of Bologna's university invented the word "university", this word had in their minds a definition that would have excluded any madrasahs already in existence at the time. But that's irrelevant. The word "university" might not mean in OUR minds the same thing that it meant in the minds of the people who invented the word while founding Bologna's university. Also, if a madrasah changed its NAME in the 20th century to include the WORD "university", that does not mean that it was only at that moment changed from "something-not-a-university" into "a university". It's not a change in the THING, but, rather, only in the thing's NAME.
 * The definition cited is not even grammatical: "One of the criteria that defines a university is that the degrees are granted by the university and to a for all universities common standard, ...". How does one grant a degree to "a for all universities common standard"? I thought one granted a degree to a STUDENT. What IS "a for all universities common standard?" But I'm not asking for that text to be edited for clarity. There should be no text at all defining "university". We all know what "university" means. Or we can look up "university" in Wiktionary. And by the meaning we all know, these madrasahs in dispute founded before 1088 were universities. Bologna is the oldest university in the world that meets certain criteria, and the article should be edited to say so. But Bologna is not the oldest university in the world.2600:1700:6759:B000:60E4:4CDF:3898:2FB2 (talk) 06:56, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson

The name change
The article suggests that 'its new name, since 2000, is Alma mater studiorum (Latin for "fostering mother of studies"), to remember it as the first university in the world.' is very debatable. It is certainly the oldest continuous university in Europe. However, several Asian and African universities were founded before Bologna and of those, Kairouan (Qarawiyin University)(founded 859 AD) and Al-Azhar (founded 970 AD) are generally regarded as the oldest continuous universities in the world. Even earlier than these two were Nalanda University and Takshashila University in India, Nanjing University in China, Alexandria University in Egypt, Alcuin's School in France and even Plato's Academy.

All these are not Universities, at least not in the exact sense of the definition. Alexandia university hardly existed, the others are mostly school. The Al-Azhar is the only other possible older university, but it's dabatable, since the word "university" was born with the University of Bologna itself.

 * Correct. In fact in the italian version of the article the statement is slightly different: "è la più antica università del mondo occidentale" (is the oldest university in the western world). --Biopresto 15:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

More original content
This page appears to largely be a rewrite of http://www.eng.unibo.it/PortaleEn/University/Our+History/default.htm -- perhaps someone more familiar with the University could contribute some more original content?

Citation for enrolment
I'm unable to find a "enrolment OR enrollment" or "student numbers" result that provides a real number for student headcount at UoB. Can someone dig one up?

 * Look here: http://www.miur.it/scripts/IU/vIU0_bis.asp 95771 enrolled in 2005/6 --Biopresto 09:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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Why is there no History of the University?
Why is there no history of a 1,000 year old university that is possibly the first such institution in Western Europe? Was it deleted at some point? It seems very odd that there is nothing compiled. There is a lot of documentation on this topic but absolutely nothing is written here. That fauxpaux certainly lessens the value of Wikipedia as a knowledge/research tool. Stevenmitchell (talk) 01:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

University at Fez
Looking at this edit, I find it excessive to mention the University of Al-Karaouine in the WP:LEAD of this article. Al-Karaouine, if it is to be mentioned at all, should be mentioned somewhere tucked away in the body.

On the other hand I also disagree with attempt to portray Bologna's claim to being the oldest university as undisputed. It is disputed, the lead should make note of that, but only very briefly.VR talk  12:34, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

 * That seems like an acceptable compromise to me. I'm implementing something along those lines. Athenean (talk) 05:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

1088 date of founding appears to have no historical basis

 * In A History of the University in Europe: Volume 1, Universities in the Middle Ages ed. Hilde de Ridder-Symoens, (Cambridge, CUP), p. 4, Walter Rüegg states that the supposed founding date of 1088 has no historical basis at all. The date was in fact chosen as a 'conventional date' in 1888 by a jubilee committee chaired by Giosuè Carducci, and there is no published reliable historical research which confirms the date. On the contrary, a number of books confirm that no such event took place in 1088, including H. Rashdall, The Universities of Europe in the Middle Ages, Vol. 1, (Oxford, 1895) pp. 118-9; H. Grundmann, Vom Ursprung der Universität im Mittelalter (Darmstadt 1957, 2nd ed. 1960), p.40: and even Sorbelli, Storia della Università di Bologna Vol. 1 (Bologna 1940) (written for the university's '850th birthday') does not mention the date. MinorProphet (talk) 09:55, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

 * Since in Irnerius it is stated that the scholar founded the law school in 1084/1088, I think this could be the milestone used by Carducci et al. However, give that a personal idea is not a source, I could look for help by the local librarians in finding good sources about the founding date. I could start from here (sorry, it is in Italian). Best, --Giuseppe (talk) 10:22, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2015
Please modify the paragraph: "It has branch centres in Imola, Ravenna, Forlì, Sicily, Cesena and Rimini and a branch center abroad in Buenos Aires" as it follows: "It has Campuses in Cesena, Forlì, Ravenna Rimini and a branch center abroad in Buenos Aires." Imola and Sicily as Campuses is an incorrect information.. Please check: http://www.unibo.it/en/university/campuses-and-structures

And then in the paragraph:"The University has about 85,500 students in its 23 schools." Please modify the number "23" in 11, that is the correct nuber. Please check: http://www.unibo.it/en/university/campuses-and-structures/schools

Thanks

Dave firecrackers (talk) 10:18, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done sst✈(discuss) 05:32, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2016
University of Taxila is older than UNIVERSITY OF BOLOGNA.

Philosophersden (talk) 12:26, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

 * ❌ the University of Taxila (if it was a university - opinions are divided) was wiped out about 1500 years ago, whereas, as stated in the article, the University of Bologna is the "oldest continuously-operating university in the world" - Arjayay (talk) 14:47, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Name is incorrect
The correct name is "Alma Mater Studiorum Università di Bologna"

http://www.normateneo.unibo.it/Statuto.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Turokan (talk • contribs) 21:33, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Rephrasing lead sentence
I have rephrased the lead sentence, which is not only historically inaccurate, but is also a misrepresentation of the facts. To call the University of Bologna the 'oldest university in the world' is factually incorrect, given that other institutions like Taxila and Nalanda are technically contenders for that title. The correct way to refer to the Uni of Bologna would be to call it the oldest university in continuous operation, which is what I have changed it to. If anyone has an issue with it, feel free to discuss it here. Tiger7253 (talk) 13:34, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Ranking section and overall structure
I was wondering if the ranking section should include national as well as global metrics? I consider this a potential source of interest and information for users as it's ranked number one (overall) both nationally and throughout the Southern Europe. The Wiki pages for UK universities include national statistics.

Furthermore, I feel like the format of the page could use a lot of work and consolidation. Specifically, it has a rather clumsy and disorganised built for such a major and important university and some of the sections have a stub feeling to them.

Anyone up for the task or should I try? I'm slightly hesitant as I'm not a native speaker.

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2019
THE is not 180, but 168 200.131.225.66 (talk) 18:47, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done--Goldsztajn (talk) 20:50, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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Guinness World Records
Guinness World Records says, "The University of Bologna, Italy, was founded in 1088 and is the oldest one in Europe." and not the oldest in the world. Shubuhat (talk) 15:49, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Not the oldest university according to UNESCO
UNESCO says about Medina of Fez, "Founded in the 9th century and home to the oldest university in the world..." Shubuhat (talk) 15:49, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

 * This has been discussed to death at Talk:List of oldest universities in continuous operation. You'll have to read through the archives to find it all. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 19:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I sense a White Supremacist agenda. Why deny facts endorsed by UNESCO too? Do you claim to know better? Shubuhat (talk) 09:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:NPA. And then read the previous discussions where you will find answers to your question. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 09:52, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

DAMS
It was instituted in 1971 as a spinf-off of the Faculty of Letters and Arts, but it needs a specific WP article. Possibily, it can be translated the one of the Italian version of WP. Its history has been linked to four Satanic homocides which took place between December 1982 and November 1983The related sources report also the disappearence of the judge Paolo Adinolfi and the crimes of the Monster of Florence.Theologian81sp (talk) 09:55, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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Suribachi-class ammunition ship

The Suribachi-class ammunition ships was a class of two auxiliary vessels of the United States Navy in service from 1956 to 1995. They were among the first specialized underway replenishment ships built after World War II. The Nitro-class ammunition ships are sometimes considered part of this class. Both ships were decommissioned in the mid-1990s and were struck from the Naval Vessel Register in 1996. Both vessels were discarded in the 2000s.

Description
The Suribachi class were the first ammunition ships specifically designed for underway replenishment for the United States Navy. The Suribachi class were designed by the Ship Characteristics Board as SCB 114. The ships had elevators installed to ease the internal handling of ammunition and explosives. Additionally as part of a refit in 1960s under SCB 232, the class had three holds converted to store missiles and were given high speed transfer systems for replenishment at sea.

The two ships had a light displacement of 7470 LT, a standard displacement of 10000 LT and displaced 15500 LT at full load. They measured, 512 ft long overall with a beam of 72 ft and a draft of 29 ft. The vessels were powered by steam created by two Combustion Engineering boilers capable of 42.2 kg/cm2 at 400 C powering two Bethlehem geared turbines turning one propeller creating 16000 hp. This gave the ships a maximum speed of 21 kn, but this later declined to 18 kn.

The Suribachi class were initially armed with four twin-mounted 3"/50 caliber guns placed in superfiring positions fore and aft. However, in the 1960s, the two aft mounts were removed and a landing pad for helicopters was installed in place. The vessels mounted SPS-10 surface search radar and two Mk 36 SRBOC six-barrelled chaff launchers for electronic defense. They also had SPS-6 radar and Mark 63 Gun Fire Control System which were removed in 1977–1978. The vessels had a complement of 312 sailors including 18 officers.

Construction and career
Two new purpose-built ammunition ships were authorized in 1954. As ammunition ships, the two vessels carry the names of volcanoes. The two vessels were constructed by the Bethlehem Steel Corporation at the Bethlehem Sparrows Point Shipyard in Maryland. Suribachi entered service in 1956, followed by Mauna Kea in 1957. The Nitro-class ammunition ships are often considered part of this class, but were built to an altered design. Mauna Kea was transferred to the reserve fleet in 1979. However, due to high operational requirements, Mauna Kea rejoined the active fleet in 1982. In 1986 Mauna Kea conducted trials using portable rails for the deployment of naval mines.

Suribachi was decommissioned in 1994, followed by Mauna Kea in 1995. Both ships were stricken from the Naval Vessel Register on 12 December 1996. Mauna Kea was used as target practice in fleet exercise in 2006, and Suribachi was scrapped at Brownsville, Texas in mid 2009.

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User:Hunter Killer360

Hunter_Killer360 is one of the online aliases of the Science Fiction Author, Artist, and General Musician Jonathan L. Pelikan.

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Třebom

Třebom (Thröm) is a municipality and village in Opava District in the Moravian-Silesian Region of the Czech Republic. It has about 200 inhabitants. It is part of the historic Hlučín Region.

Geography
Třebom is located about 14 km northeast of Opava and 29 km northwest of Ostrava, on the border with Poland. It lies in a flat agricultural landscape in the Opava Hilly Land. The highest point is at 253 m above sea level.

History
The first written mention of Třebom is from 1349. Until 1582, the village was owned by various lower nobles. In 1582, it was acquired by the Lords of Vrbno, who owned it until 1621, when their property was confiscated. From 1621 to 1863, Třebom was owned by the Teutonic Order.

In 1920, together with the Hlučín Region, Třebom became part of Czechoslovakia and was the only municipality in this region where the population was ethnically pure German. After World War II, most of the population was expelled.

Transport
In the municipality is the road border crossing with Poland Třebom / Kietrz.

Sights
There are no protected cultural monuments in the municipality. The main landmark of Třebom is the Church of Saint George. It was built in 1781–1785.

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John Bruce

John Bruce may refer to:

 * Sir John Bruce, 2nd Baronet (before 1671–1711), Commissioner to the Parliament of Scotland; MP
 * John Bruce (historiographer) (1745–1826), Scottish politician, East India Company historiographer and Secretary to the Board of Control
 * John Bruce (minister) (1794–1880), senior Scottish minister of both the Church of Scotland and Free Church of Scotland
 * John Bruce (antiquary) (1802–1869), English founder of the Camden Society
 * John Bruce (British Army officer) (1808–1870), acting Governor of Western Australia
 * John Bruce (judge) (1832–1901), U.S. federal judge
 * John Bruce (Canada) (1837–1893), first president of the Métis provisional government
 * John Bruce (barrister) (1861-1921), Scottish barrister and briefly MP for Greenock in 1892
 * John Bruce (surgeon) (1905–1975), Scottish surgeon
 * John Bruce (decorator), one of the designers on The Learning Channel's show While You Were Out
 * John Asamoah Bruce, Ghanaian air force officer
 * John Collingwood Bruce (1805–1892), English nonconformist minister and historian
 * John E. Bruce (1856–1924), American lawyer, politician, and baseball executive
 * John Edward Bruce (1856–1924), African American slave, writer and nationalist leader
 * John Mitchell Bruce (1846–1929), British physician
 * John Munro Bruce (1840–1901), Australian businessman
 * John Leck Bruce (1850–1921), Scottish-born architect and sanitary engineer
 * John Gregory Bruce (1897–1985), United States Tax Court judge

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Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Wikiacc

 ''The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a successful request for adminship. Please do not modify it.

Wikiacc
Final (18/0/0) ended 23:28, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

has proved worthy of adminship for a few months now. In #wikipedia, he mentioned starting a self nom. But, I'd like to nominate him instead, so maybe his nomination could fare better. Here you go, Wikiacc. --WikiFanaticTalk Contribs 23:28, 10 October 2005 (CDT)

 * Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination below this line.
 * I accept. Wikiacc (talk) 21:28, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Support
 * 1) An obvious Support, as long as he accepts the nomination (which I'm sure he will, since he said he would.) --WikiFanaticTalk Contribs 23:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support --Rogerd 01:06, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support--User:AYArktos | Talk 01:38, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support Sure, why not? Privat  e   Butcher  02:18, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Merovingian (t) (c) 06:32, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Support CambridgeBayWeather 06:36, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Weak support, I seem to remember seeing this user somewhere. — J I P | Talk 07:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) Support lots of image work and user interaction seems civil. No evidence of campaigning (which, I've only just realised, creates difficulties for me).   Dl yo ns 493   Ta lk   11:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 9)  →Jo urna list   >>talk<<  15:17, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 10) Support, though I haven't seen this user around. Christopher Parham (talk) 15:32, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 11) Fir  e  Fo  x  16:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 12) Support. I checked out a bunch of his edits to User Talk pages, and was uniformly impressed with how he dealt with other people.  I'm still trying to figure out why  =Nichalp   «Talk»=  stepped in and answered my question for the candidate (see below); I was interested in how the candidate answered, not a third party, but that won't stop me from giving my support to what looks like a fine candidate. --RoySmith 02:08, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't think it was a direct question to the candidate. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  19:28, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Support, I liked this comment on your talk page. Seem to be able to keep a cool head, a highly valued quality in my books. --Bjarki 02:31, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) -- (drini's page| ☎ ) 03:26, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support. El_C 03:27, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support because you are not User:Witkacy... Renata3 15:25, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Support -- Francs2000 [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px| ]] 23:37, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Support. Yes, Wikiacc will be a fine admin. — mark ✎ 10:48, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Oppose

Neutral

Comments
 * I was goint to shout on top of my lungs, "People what are you doing?!" All because I thought you are User:Witkacy... Good luck! :) Renata3 15:25, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
 * 1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.)
 * A. I would work on clearing admin backlogs, such as WP:CP, AFDs, IFDs and old unsourced images, and make use of the rollback button for reverting vandalism.
 * 2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
 * A. I am pleased with LHC@home and Nix v. Hedden, both stubs that I created.
 * 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and will deal with it in the future?
 * A. As a less experienced user, I ran into conflict with User:Hpnadig over the usage of a template infobox at Kannada. The argument gradually faded. I have also been in conflicts with users over issues such as copyvio images and POV. I have responded to most conflicts in a civil manner and will do so in the future. (For more information, see my talk page and archive.)

Additional questions
 * 1) I'm curious about this edit.  Why did you think the picture was inappropriate?  It seems apropos to the article to me.  --RoySmith 00:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * He's justified in removing the link because it hotlinked to an image. Hotlinking images from another site is a waste of bandwidth of that site. This applies to all websites, not necessarily wikipedia. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  08:13, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Concur with Nichalp. Wikiacc (talk) 19:07, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page.


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William J. Ruane

William J. Ruane (October 24, 1925 – October 4, 2005) was an American businessman, investor, and philanthropist.

Ruane graduated from the University of Minnesota in 1945 with a degree in electrical engineering and from Harvard Business School in 1949. He enlisted in the U.S. Navy and was on his way to Japan when World War II ended. He met Warren Buffett at an investment seminar with value investing guru Benjamin Graham and he and Buffett became lifelong friends. When Buffett closed his investment group in 1969, he advised associates to consider investing with Ruane as they both employed Graham's value investing techniques.

Ruane founded his own investment firm, Ruane Cunniff, with partner Rick Cunniff in 1970, and the same year they launched their flagship Sequoia Fund. Ruane's firm was renamed Ruane, Cunniff, and Goldfarb in 2004, when Robert Goldfarb became president. In 2008, the Sequoia Fund announced it would open its fund to new investors for the first time since 1982.

In 1992 he adopted a block in the Harlem neighborhood of New York City, committed to make it a better place, renovating buildings and establishing clinics and community service programs. Ruane gave every child on the block a scholarship to a Catholic school. He also funded programs at public schools and schools on Indian reservations, and contributed to mental health causes.

Death
He died at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in Manhattan, aged 79, of lung cancer.

Personal life
William J. Ruane resided in Manhattan and Washington, Connecticut. He was married twice his first wife predeceased him his second wife to whom he was married at the time of his death was Joy. He had offspring his sons were William Jr., who lived in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and Thomas, of Washington, Connecticut.; his daughters were Elizabeth "Lili" Ruane, of Burlington, Vermont, and Paige Ruane, of New York City; he had a sibling, Patricia Lowry, of Kihei, Maui, Hawaii.

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Althing Ombudsman

The Umboðsmaður Alþingis (Icelandic for, literally, "Ombudsman [of the] Parliament") is an ombudsman appointed by the Alþingi (the Parliament of Iceland) to oversee investigation of complaints against local government and government departments in Iceland.

The post of Umboðsmaður Alþingis was established from January 1, 1988 by the decree of law 13/1987. In 1997, by the decree of law 85/1997, its remit was extended to local government. From the start, Gaukur Jörundsson was elected by the Althing as the umboðsmaður. He was reelected twice, the last time with a mandate to December 31, 1999; but resigned from November 1, 1998. Tryggvi Gunnarsson took his place, first temporarily selected for the rest of Jörundsson's mandate, and then formally elected for the next period, and then reelected five times for full periods. However, he retired at his own request in the middle of the last one, which was effective from 1 May 2021. He also has had to take leave from his office for three shorter periods, when he was engaged in other matters, as in the special investigation commission for the causes of the 2008–2011 Icelandic financial crisis. Thus, Róbert Ragnar Spanó served as Umboðsmaður Alþingis ad hoc 2009-2013.

In April 2021 the Althing elected Skúli Magnússon as new Ombudsman for a full period, starting 1 May 2021.

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The Winter Album (The Brilliant Green album)

The Winter Album is the fourth album by The Brilliant Green before their five-year hiatus from 2002 to 2007.

The album is noted as being different from their previous albums as they experimented with electronic and synth beats.


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Talk:Rugby league in Australia

Most popular national sport?
This article claims that "It [rugby league] competes with Australian Rules Football for the title of "most popular national sport" [in Australia]". I don't know the statistics, but isn't cricket more popular than both sports given its truely national following and doesn't football (soccer) have more participation. I imagine lawn bowls and netball are quite popular as well. In short, is there a reference that can back the claim up? (Oh, and I reckon Aussie rules is far more popular than league, but I'm biased.) --ThirdEdition 23:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Someone else brought this up. I was going to change it, but couldn't be bothered :). On reflection, I'd agree that it should be changed. Also, popularity is hard to gauge, perhaps we should find some other way to describes its popularity with out actualy using the word. Such as 2nd largest Attended sport? Although, I know that's now true, because horse racing is number one I believe, or maybe it was AFL, then racing, motor sports and RL. Perhaps we could say 2nd most popular or followed or attended football code in Australia? If you think of a good one, edit it, or tell me about it ;).
 * Hows that change? ... I knew i'd end up editing it myself! Why o why is this so addictive? POds 09:26, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm happy that what you've got there now is factually accurate, so if your happy with it that's fine. According to an Australian Bureau of Statistics survey in 2002, Aussie Rules (2.5 million) was attended by the most adult individuals, then horse racing (1.9 million), motor racing (1.5 million) and rugby league (1.5 million). --ThirdEdition 04:14, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm well versed in those statistics :). If u know of any similar statistics for the England, leave a reference at the bottom of the England page. POds 05:37, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

English Schools
I changed these. Soccer is played more widely than rugby at Eton, and Harrow was very much a soccer school until it switched codes between the Wars. 06:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ausseagull (talk • contribs)

Help!
A few soccer fundamentalists are hijacking the term football in Australian articles. See, for example,. We need concerted action to stop this. Grant65 | Talk 10:16, 22 February 2006 (UTC) : But surely, Australian rules has also "hijacked" the term football? Are you considering "concerted action" to stop that? Ausseagull (talk) 06:45, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

I think local clubs need more of a mention
There is very little about Rugby League in Australia except for the professional competitions and how this affects perception. Australian professional Rugby League is only the tip of the ice-berg when it comes to participation generally. Local Rugby League clubs are important in develpoing social skills and providing role models for the youth. From my experience(extensive enough) WOMAN ARE JUST AS INVOLVED IN THE LOCAL CLUBS AS MEN. Also local Rugby League clubs are important to community life and social structure with many people who have not played at the club for twenty years still hanging around and coaching a team every now and than.

Also there is very little about the game's Irish roots in Sydney and Brisbane, Past Brothers, many local teams are in fact local catholic schools(Mostly Irish with a bit of Italian) who play against the local clubs in competition (Mostly Anglo-Celtic and working class as well as immigrant). I will begin to implement these changes. --Judas Iscariot 05:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Just adding that otherwise I think that this article is an excellent accumulation of knowledge and statistics. --Judas Iscariot 06:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

 * As the original author of this article, i look forward to your changes :) POds 11:53, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Found that some of your statistics are a little bit wrong. I have also seen the source of your statistics as well which I think are for seniors exclusively. However this site http://www.qrl.com.au/display.php?pg_id=1600 puts the number as 355000 participants. Admittedly at schools and club levels that some of these numbers could be a double up but I think that any way of looking at it, there are at least 250000 rugby league players. Of cause this place is not to cite speculation but any manner of looking at this, the numbers are a bit wrong. Pods, since in trying to research some of these things, your identity has come up more than once, I feel that pointing this out to you is better than just trampling over many of the things that you have written. Judas Iscariot2

 * I've been meaning to update the figures lately. There are for 2002/2003. Also, Try t NEVER use statistics gathered by a particular organisation that shows the statistics of that organisation, because they show bias. For example. Your sources are from the QRL. I would highly recommend against this and continue to use the sources in this file. I.e. Mainly the Australian Bereau of Statistics. POds 01:21, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

How about this than? http://www.ausport.gov.au/scorsresearch/ERASS2004/ERASS2004_table13.pdf This is for 2004 since which there has been an increase in RL and decline in RU. Judas Iscariot2

 * Yes, the 2003 ERASS was used to write this page. If your going to update the figures, keep in mind i was going to change everything to percentages or talk in as less specifics as possible. I.e. Perhaps its better to say how much, in percentage terms, people participate in rugby league compared to other sports. That way, things will perhaps not get out of date as quickly. Also, it would be good if we could emcompass several years results, so that we can show how things are changing. POds 10:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

On this it is relevant to put in participation numbers in touch football because it is esentially a non-contact form of Rugby League, and only the strongest can play the more physical version.

 * No it isn't because its a seperate sport. The only reason to include participation records from other sports is to give an idea of the contrast between them and hopefuly set up an idea in the readers mind of what stance rugby league has in Australia as a professional sport. Comparing RLs participation numbers to Touchs doesnt do much at all. POds 11:58, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

 * You do not think it is relevant? They are identical sports just without contact. It gives a much clearer indication of participation. Mr nice guy 11:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

 * What are you trying to do by putting these numbers in? Provide a comparison? Or boost league's numbers? A comparison will do very little, both sports share similar geographics. And the later is just unnacceptable. You can make your changes, but if they dont contribute to the article or if they arejust proping up the league's numbers, then their outa there! POds 14:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

State of origin
I cannot believe that people toatally missed SOO (State of Origin) QLD vs NSW. To the person who said there is very little about rugby league in Australia, you are certianly right. Also, although i prefer rugby league, AFL i do think is the more popular sport. AFL has more of a tribal following than RL does. Also, what about more mention of its counterpart RU(Rugby Union)Timmah01 06:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Number of Clubs
What does this mean? Number of professional/semi-professional clubs? Clearly, there would be 100s of clubs across the country playing at all levels from Junior grades through to NRL. 203.94.175.66 01:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oops. That was me. CumberlandsAshes81 01:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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Extended make-over
I have been (and will continue to) making substantial changes to this article. It is too focused on Queensland and NSW and ignores competitions that may not grab the headlines but are worthy of a mention e.g. schools and university rugby league.

Too much of the information here is just verbatim repeats of the actual article. The detail in the State of Origin / City vs Country sections are examples of this. Too much historical detail and no mention of the Affiliated States Championship.

The history section needs to be massively extended, one or two things happened between 1907 and 2008.

With this in mind, a lot of data may disappear from these pages to be moved elsewhere if not already duplicated.GordyB (talk) 20:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Football in Australia
Just seeking to draw a wider range of informed opinion at Talk:Football in Australia regarding that article's future (whether persisting with the attempt at a comprehensive and well-balanced broad-concept article and how best to achieve that, or returning it to a simple disambiguation page). Cheers.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 02:39, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Please note, the disambiguate state last existed in 2009. --LauraHale (talk) 12:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

NPOV
A few problems -
 * Claims that RL was "working class" and RU was "public school" are not entirely true. A number of working class areas in Europe continued to play rugby union after the schism, notably South Wales, South West England and the Scottish Borders. Also, some of the people involved in RL in England were moneyed.
 * No mention of the effect of professionalisation of rugby union, which has meant that the flow between rugby union and rugby league is no longer one way, and that moreover, money is not the main issue.
 * Aussie Rules and the relationship between the two codes in Australia is barely mentioned, if at all.--MacRùsgail (talk) 18:46, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

 * I'd say that money was the main issue with players moving league to union, it just doesn't sound too good for a cross-code player to say "Yeah I'm only doing it for the cash" so they usually say something about a new challenge.GordyB (talk) 19:46, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

 * Yes, well put! Now, ironically RU is poaching players from RL. What I think I meant, is that "money is no longer the main issue". Both codes now offer competitive rates of pay although RU is still smaller. Rather than just saying that league is the coolest or most popular sport in Australia (or something on those lines), I would like to see the article discuss the Barassi Line, and the interplay with Aussie Rules and Rugby Union in Australia properly. Which football code you start out playing, is dictated mostly by your background. Which football code you end up playing is often down to how much money is being offered, but not necessarily.--MacRùsgail (talk) 13:15, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Unidentified rugby league players
... on a red carpet in Sydney, 2013.

Who can help? 37.5.2.188 (talk) 10:31, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the last guy in the first picture is Roy Asotasi, not Jeff Lima. I don't recognise any from the second picture (maybe Under-20s players?) or the third. The fourth is Mark 'Spud' Carroll. In the fifth, the first guy is problematic because I think he's one of the Burgess twins: Tom or George). I don't recognise the 2nd or 3rd guys but the 4th is Adam Reynolds and the last is Sam Burgess. I don't recognise the guy in the last picture.--Gibson Flying V (talk) 00:48, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments.
 * Jeff Lima is given by the photographer http://www.flickr.com/photos/evarinaldiphotography/9123786111/ (but she may be wrong)
 * Acording to your comment this file File:Micheal_Crocker,_Sam_Burgess,Tom_Burgess.jpg should be renamed? Micheal Crocker, right?
 * This is the whole gallery: commons:Category:Man_of_Steel_premiere_in_Sydney,_June_2013 with some more unidentified Australian celebrities. Dear Australians, please help (here or better on commons) Regards. 37.5.3.188 (talk) 08:03, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

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Why are New Zealand and Papua New Guinea mentioned so often like they are parts of Australia?
New Zealand clubs keep getting counted in the article. This is weasley because New Zealand is not part of Australia so not within the scope of the article. Imagine rugby union counting New Zealand players and clubs as Australian. Just because they compete in the NRL doesn't make them Australian. Please keep this info relevant to the Rugby league in New Zealand article! Rulesfan (talk) 03:12, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

If a New Zealand team is involved in the largest rugby league competition in Australia, that club's existence is absolutely relevant to the topic of rugby league in Australia. Aspirex (talk) 23:53, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

 * By that logic there are 6 clubs in New Zealand and one in Fiji that are playing rugby union in Australia (more than there are Australian clubs)... These are not Australian clubs they are based in New Zealand and would likely be represented in a local competition if they weren't playing in a bigger league overseas. Look at how many [| Soccer clubs play in other countries] these are rarely if ever counted as clubs in the respective country. Where is the line drawn? Do we add the PNG Hunters to the list of professional Australian teams as well?? --Rulesfan (talk) 01:46, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Do the Warriors play in the NRL? That's all the article is portraying, any other suggestion is in your imagination.

What is the difference between "Elite" and "Professional" ?
The word Elite is bandied around wantonly in this article but there doesn't seem to be any definition in this article as to what constitutes an "Elite" club. Rulesfan (talk) 03:14, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

I agree, I dont think it should be used as a descriptor unless it's established by the sport's admin as an official title for that level. I typically use 'top level professional' in Australian context. Aspirex (talk) 00:40, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

The pic in the Infobox
The caption says "Darren Lockyer, Australia's most-capped player". All I see is a line of about ten players, all looking far too small on my laptop screen for any one of them to stand out. We either need a better pic or a different caption. HiLo48 (talk) 22:58, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, the next line says kicking off, he's the one kicking off and in focus. But an amendment has been made.
 * It's still a crowded pic. My screen is small. It really is difficult to pick out an individual. Must be even worse on phones. HiLo48 (talk) 01:02, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Countdown (Australian TV program)

Conventions, Myths and Legends
There is much missing from this article about the conventions, myths and legends of Countdown. When I tried to add this information Wikipedia/OSMOSSIS ruled it out. Im new at this democratic publishing experience however my experience is direct. I was contracted by Executive Producer Michael Shrimpton to provide market research for Countdown from 78 through to 82 and was co-producer of the Countdown Australian Music Awards in collaboration with ARIA and Australia's major independent record companies of the time. Recently I produced DIY GLOBAL REVOLUTION for the Western Australian Music Industry Association so am still in the flow. The information I tried to add was about bands missing from the document as most of the Australian talent listed is drawn from the earliest era of the show. Also, given the potential of Wikipedia it would be wonderful to see this process debunk and discuss various major myths and legends arround the show such as: why Midnight Oil never appeared on Countdown? why it is now reported in one respected Australian music encyclopaedia that Cold Chisel never  appeared on the show either?

- - my hope is that via democratic wiki some of this story can now be told- what say you OSMOSSIS?
 * The above material was added by Gatekeepercb (talk | contribs) at 17:40, 24 May 2006 – see Differences between revisions, manually added by shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 01:20, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

The End of Countdown
Should be some mention of the demise of the show. If I remember correctly the show was live and the hosts held up signs saying "Dubbed" or something (as none of the live acts on Countdown were, they just mimed). The show died a few weeks later.Softgrow 23:32, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * You're thinking of Countdown Revolution; that was a different show altogether. Fastbak77 09:27, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Madonna
FROM ARTICLE: "Madonna achieved her first hit single when "Burning Up" reached the top twenty in 1982 following repeated showings of the video clip on Countdown"

COMMENT: Wasn't Holiday her first Australian hit single? Holiday hit in April 1983, and I believe that song became popular directly via Countdown. It may have even been her first ever hit anywhere - I don't know for certain though. Burning Up became a hit a few months later. Though I believe that Burning Up wasn't a hit in other territories and yes it was probably the repeated screenings of the clip on Australian TV that helped propell it to be a hit here, it wasn't her first hit. Asa01 19:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

 * How sad that the most influential pop-culture show in Australian history is now best remembered as breaking Madonna! Surely it had some other achievements. Leeborkman 02:43, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Burning Up entered the Australian singles chart on 28 Nov 1983; Holiday entered 9 Apr 1984. Therefore Burning Up was a hit first.Nqr9 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 04:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Young Talent Time
If i remember correctly there was a sort of rivalry with Young Talent Time - growing up you were either a "Countdown kid" or a "YTT kid" (and then later a "Hey Hey kid"). PMA 14:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

 * But they are different shows with different content catering to different audiences and age groups. I've enever heard of the rivalry. Now Skyhooks vs Sherbet, that was a rivalry! Asa01 02:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I stand corrected. Oh, well! PMA 08:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 * For some reason I recalled this today. I wonder if you were thinking of the shows Sounds Unlimited (three hours of music videos hosted Donny Sutherland on Network Seven each Saturday morning) that aired in direct competition with Hey Hey It's Saturday when it was in its morning slot. I recall sometimes flipping between the two shows. Being in direct opposition and with a somewhat overlapping target audience (though Hey Hey was more the kids show, Sounds Unlimited more for teenagers) I see some rivalry developing. Asa01 11:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Kylie Minogue
I would debate that Countdown was crucial to the success of Kylie Minogue. Loco-motion was released 28th July, 1987. Countdowns last episode was the 19th July 1987. So this appears to be incorrect information that has been given. I would of said that MTV Australia was more crucial to the success of Kylie Minogue than Countdown. Oz Juice24 (talk) 05:57, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

She did a duet with John Waters in early '87, and also performed locomotion. That gave her a record contract with Mushroom. None of it was on Countdown. She was already fairly famous because of Neighbours, and the public performance with Waters proved she could sing, too.220.245.43.121 (talk) 05:55, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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Nitro-class ammunition ship

The Nitro-class ammunition ships are a class of three auxiliary vessels of the United States Navy. Launched in 1958-1959, they were among the first specialized underway replenishment ships built after the Second World War, to carry munitions. These and the Suribachi-class ammunition ships are sometimes considered to form a single class. A fourth ship of the class was planned under the 1959 military construction program but was eventually cancelled before construction began. Soon after completion, all ships of the class were modified to stow surface to air missiles as large as the RIM-8 Talos in their holds. Initially ships of the Nitro class were armed with eight 3"/50 caliber guns in Mk 33 twin mounts. Two Mk 33 mounts were located on the forecastle and another two were located near the stern. During the mid-1960s all ships of the class had the two Mk 33 mounts near the stern replaced with a helicopter landing pad. This allowed each ship to utilize helicopters during replenishment operations.

The Nitros were decommissioned in 1993-1995 following the end of the Cold War and have been scrapped.

Ships in class

 * USS Nitro (AE-23)
 * USS Pyro (AE-24)
 * USS Haleakala (AE-25)

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Timken Roller Bearing Company

The Timken Roller Bearing Company was one of the first to introduce roller bearings for railroad cars. Railroad cars owned and operated by the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway were some of the first to use roller bearings rather than "oil waste journal" boxes. Henry Timken, a German immigrant, invented an improved bearing and founded the company in 1899. It was later renamed The Timken Company.

Passenger cars
The Santa Fe was the first company to have roller bearing trucks made by Timken under their passenger cars, much to the delight of their passengers, and the bottom line for the company. Timken commissioned the construction of a demonstration boxcar in 1943 that was first displayed at the 1948 Chicago Rail Fair. It was a rolling advertisement for a new way of reducing friction - roller bearings (made by the Timken Roller Bearing Company). The car's trucks lacked the then common axle journal boxes, with the bearings mounted on the ends of the axles outside the wheels.

United States
The first locomotive to use roller bearings made by Timken was Timken 1111, a 4-8-4 built by Alco in 1930. The locomotive was used on 15 American railroads for demonstration runs, and was purchased by the Northern Pacific Railroad, the last railroad to try the specially-built locomotive, in 1933. It operated in regular service on the NP until retirement in 1957 and was subsequently scrapped.

United Kingdom
Some British steam locomotives also used roller bearings. The LMS Turbomotive was fitted with Timken roller bearings, and they were also retrofitted to some of the LMS Coronation class.

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Network For Teaching Entrepreneurship

The Network for Teaching Entrepreneurship (formerly National Foundation for Teaching Entrepreneurship), also referred to as NFTE (pronounced Nifty), is an international nonprofit organization providing entrepreneurship training and educational programs to middle and high school students, college students, and adults. Much of NFTE's work focuses specifically on young people in underserved communities.

Through the organization's patented entrepreneurship education, NFTE helps young people build entrepreneurial creativity and skills. Since 1987, NFTE has reached more than a million young people, and currently has programs in 25 states across the U.S. and 14 countries around the globe.

NFTE provides highly academic programs and has worked with established universities such as Columbia University and University of Pennsylvania to develop programming that inspires learners to recognize opportunity and plan for successful futures by pursuing educational opportunities and by encouraging starting their own businesses.

History
Founded in 1987 by business executive and entrepreneur Steve Mariotti, while he was a public high school teacher in New York City’s South Bronx, NFTE was started up as a program to prevent high school dropout and improve academic performance among at-risk urban students. Combining his business background with his desire to teach at-risk students, Mariotti developed his concept based on the theory that low-income youth when given an opportunity in entrepreneurship, can employ their innate "street smarts" to develop "academic smarts" and "business smarts".

The organization's supporters include leading global companies, successful entrepreneurs and business leaders, family foundations, and respected philanthropic organizations.

Programs

NFTE programs instruct in entrepreneurship using experiential curriculum, developed through associations with major universities, as well as NFTE personnel's own experiences in teaching. There multiple versions designed for middle school, high school, and young adult students, with graduated levels of reading and complexity.

The curriculum may be used in a semester-long or year-long entrepreneurship course work, with the programs are offered in a variety of settings, including public schools, after-school programs at community-based organizations, and summer business camps. Business plan competitions and regional competitions organized by NFTE and program partners, lead to national NFTE competitions each year. Winning students receive a trip to the annual awards dinner in New York City and a grant to apply toward their business or college expenses.

NFTE runs intensive summer programs called BizCamps for students aged 13 to 18. The camp model includes field trips, guest speakers and full day, five-days-a-week course work, providing a solid understanding of business. At the end of the camp, students compete for cash awards to fund their businesses or college.

Anecdotal Results
Tim Perez, 18, of San Leandro, CA founded his own custom website development business, T Perez Designs. “NFTE empowered me to start my own business and educated me on how to run it, how to build a business plan, marketing, finances, you name it,” Perez says. “It literally built my fundamental understanding of business. Without NFTE, I would still be trying to find myself. With NFTE, I’m able to buy my own clothes, help pay my college tuition, and support myself when I get to college. Not a lot of teenagers, especially from my neighborhood, can say that.”

Another NFTE graduate Amber Liggett, founder of Amber’s Amazing Animal Balloons, was named the 2011 Global Young Entrepreneur of the Year, an award is sponsored by the Goldman Sachs Foundation. She was also named Black Enterprise’s Teenpreneur of the Year and was featured on PBS’s award-winning television show, Biz kid$.

2013 graduates Jesus Fernandez and Toheeb Okenla of South Holland, IL, turned to their shared interest and greatest passion: soccer. From there T&J Soccer was born. Toheeb came to the United States from Nigeria with his family at age 8 and recently lost his father. Jesus came from Michoacán, Mexico in search of better opportunities.

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