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Image Queue
another image if required: cheers Nachoman-au 12:41, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Great picture ;) - Gobeirne 08:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Statues
Anyone interested in separate identification of the guns etc along the main walk from the Clock at the top of the hill to the war memeorial? for? against? (hi ian) User:SatuSuro 15:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I think that's a great idea. By the clock, I assume you mean Edith Dircksey Cowan Memorial.  The guns nearby are ex Boar War from memory, but a complete inventory would be good. -- I@n ≡ talk 15:41, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

 * The walk (ie Fraser Avenue before it was a bitumenised road) from the top of Mount Street/Kings Park Road top of hill - across to where the War Memorial - was a real "promenade" walk area in the 1890's and 1900's early - there a some very good photos that show this somewhere... User:SatuSuro 15:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I have photographed pretty much all of the statues and attractions a few months ago. One day (hopefully soon) I will upload them to commons if someone wants to expand this article. Nachoman-au 09:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Gallery
For the moment I think its worth leaving the gallery inposition but as the article developes those images not incorporated into the article will be removed as they are all available on commons. Gnangarra 08:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The Wagyl
The story as I received it, a 2nd-hand version of a Dreaming, is that the Wagyl was a large River Python. Its reputed sleeping place under Mt Eliza by the old Brewery site was a natural suntrap, ideal for a reptile of this type. Its arrival at Mt Eliza seems to coincide with an earthquake type event which re-routed the Swan River -- or possibly made the Swan River, by breaking a natural dam holding the waters of Yenyening Lakes or maybe Lake Yealering -- from its earlier course through the Innaloo wetlands to Trigg.

It seems that this snake may have disappeared with the rest of the mega-fauna... Gordon | Talk, 5 November 2006 @11:15 UTC

 * there is this article on the Wagyl, the story as know is that the wagyl formed the waterways around the noongar lands and that after creating the swan/canning system the wagyl enter into Mt eliza at the spring near the brewery where it still rests. Gnangarra 12:27, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Perth Park
Poole was largely responsible for seeing Septimus's plan realised and the first chairman of board. Also first plans including terraces on slopes, et al. Planted first Lemon-scented gums. This may be a lead to expand but i dont want to trample around this very good article. Fred.e 17:45, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Bali Memorial
I dont think the Bali memorial details need to actually detail the bombing. This is an article about Kings Park (and therefore the Memorial's), not the Bali Bombings. The Bali Bombing details need to be removed and the details I added about the Memorial need to be re-instated. (unsigned message from matsando) Also, I have loads of Photos I have taken in Kings park in my Photobucket gallery. I wish to add these to the article, can anyone advise me how?

Mattsando

Here is a quote from mediastatements.wa.gov.au "Design 'A' features the construction of specially designed walls that will frame the sunrise axis every year on October 12," he said.

"It also makes creative use of natural materials and native plants.

"It will be a fitting and tasteful memorial to the 16 Western Australians killed on October 12 last year and there is also scope to recognise the selfless efforts of those volunteers, health workers and emergency service personnel who took part in the Bali evacuation."

The Premier also thanked the families for their input and patience during the whole public consultation process.

"I recognise it has been a terribly difficult time for the families and we have done everything possible to involve and inform them during the consultation process," he said.

By using this and other statements from the web and other sources, a few simple sentences can accurately describe this memorial and associated facts. I believe other pages discuss the details, including the one under the heading. Hope this helps. Fred 09:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The media statement above would seem to be a good basis to fix the existing section. I think it's more relevant to a WA memorial that 16 Western Australians (and 88 Australians more broadly) died than its particular impact on Indonesian history or wider context. Orderinchaos78 13:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I've copy edited it to general information about the event in relation to WA. What it needs is details on the designed, this reference is dicussing the design but the language isnt definative to the describe the alignment of the memorial to sunrise on oct 12 nor the structure... Gnangarra 13:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Your edits look good. I'll check the West to see if that was discussed there when the formal launch took place Orderinchaos78 13:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Can't find anything yet, but found a few subsidiary references - "Deluge on hold but no dry eye" - Steve Pennells, The West Australian, 13 October 2003 says the memorial was formally opened on the first anniversary, with 4,000 attendees. "10,000 expected at service" - Peta Hellard, The Sunday Times, 12 October 2003, p.9, gave details of the then-proposed service, including speeches by Premier Gallop and Governor Sanderson, and noted the Bali Memorial Steering Committee chairman was Mark McGowan MLA. Source for 16 West Australians and Mark McGowan also at ABC ECU mag confirms the meadia statement above  but I'm not sure if that counts as an RS, or whether it should simply be used as a minesite for queries on other publications. Orderinchaos78 14:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Another memorial
Pioneer women's memorial. mention in Hansard ☻ Fred|☝ discussion |✍ contributions  18:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

President Forrest?
(Discussion copied from Talk:John Forrest)
 * I found a statue in Kings Park (Image:John Forrest statue at Kings Park.jpg) that clearly is a statue of John Forrest (name and birth/death dates match) and claims he was "FIRST PRESIDENT OF THIS PARK", yet this is not mentioned in this article. Is it true? Dcoetzee 06:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The founding of Kings Park (Perth Park) needs improving, there is a reference to George Temple-Poole as the first chairman of the 'Board'. cygnis insignis 08:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Image gallery - removal
I have removed the image gallery as per WP:MOS and Image_use_policy as all the image are now available on commons, with one exception that has been included within the text.

Additionally the image of the Perth Skyline from the KP doesnt contribute to the understanding/identification of the park that warrants it being in the lead of the article, hence why I removed it. Gnangarra 13:31, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

In fact if you counted the number of times Perth has been photographed from kings park since cameras have been in use, if you put them side by side they would probably cover perth water SatuSuro 22:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

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Other walks
According to Kings Park's web site, there are more walks than we have listed in our article. We should add the extra walks to our article. (I'd just fix it myself, but I don't have the time at the moment.) Mitch Ames (talk) 03:28, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I know this is an old thread, but it looks like it was never resolved and recently came up again when talking about maps. Would there be any objections to renaming this section to “Walks in and around Kings Park”, and moving section Jacob’s Ladder under this section? Maybe also then adding a map depicting all the various walks? Betterkeks (talk) 03:22, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * See below (because  has already replied there, and I don't want to fragment the discussion further.) Mitch Ames (talk) 08:25, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Article title
Why is it named Kings Park, Western Australia and not Kings Park, Perth? It is clearly in Perth. We don't say: Hyde park, England, do we? - BorisG (talk) 15:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Yeah well - youre using the point bit like the arguments we have in Afd's and Cfd's- there are sometimes odd usages - the assumption that anyone might have a usage for somewhere else does not necessarily give us the perogative, you have only to look at the pointless arguments about Perth, Australia and Perth, Western Australia on this wiki and commons to understand the oddities of the situation - take for instance the restuarant - http://www.frasersrestaurant.com.au/ - they specify western australia - and if you look in the trove entries http://trove.nla.gov.au/ for the various incarnations of the board - it says xxx western australia - If you are worried about it, I have just checked - there is a redirect page with 'Kings Park, Perth' SatuSuro 09:04, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

 * SatuSuro your passage is long but I can't figure out what the reason for this name is. Is it because you think it is the official name? Obviously not http://www.bgpa.wa.gov.au/, it's not part of the name . Maybe a more plausible reason is that technically it is not in Perth CBD, but in West Perth. Still a bit awkward, not to mention that there may be another Kings Park in Albany or Broome. Anyway, I am not going to lose any sleep over this. Cheers. - BorisG (talk) 16:01, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Fed cup succession box - not appropriate
I propose that the Fed cup succession box, recently added to the bottom of the article is not appropriate and should be removed. It would probably be more useful to mention (as a link) the Fed cup in a relevant section of the Kings Park article (presumably Royal King's Park Tennis Club, and list all the venues in the Fed cup article. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I have never seen a more bizarre succession box. Sorry. - BorisG (talk) 13:14, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

 * I've removed the succession box, and added a sentence to the Royal King's Park Tennis Club section referring to the 1971 Federation Cup. Mitch Ames (talk) 00:20, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Size
The article claims that Kings Park is the largest inner city park in the world, but I haven't found additional information to support this claim, so I've marked it as dubious. Does anyone have other source material? Paris1127 (talk) 06:48, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It depends on your definition of "inner city" but this seems to indicate otherwise. Melburnian (talk) 07:40, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Well it appears nowhere on that list, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not the largest in some category. Either way, the reference for that link is a bit biased in my opinion, so I'm not too sure of its accuracy. That being said, I'm not entirely comfortable deleting the comment without some definitive proof. Paris1127 (talk) 23:18, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

 * We should be very careful about using that list in this discussion. For example, 24,310ha will never in a year of Sundays fit inside Cape Town, SA. And, as it happens, it doesn't. It is fairly obvious that using a Wikipedia article as a reference is filled with problems. Of course, if someone was to differentiate in the Municipal Parks article which are actually within the cities mentioned, then we might make progress. Having said that, looking at the provided listing, Kings Park is a couple of hectares larger than Monsanto Forest Park in Lisbon, somewhere in the middle of the list. OTOH, as judged by park size vs city size, then Kings Park might well rank higher. 203.161.102.82 (talk) 12:47, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Kings Park is similar in composition to the Eilenriede in Hanover, which is aroud 640 ha. Although the Eilenriede considers itself a municipal forest, the similarities to Kings Park are striking and they should therefore be considered as equals. Betterkeks (talk) 10:55, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

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Maps
The new maps can they be modified to make the lines smaller the bold red is just too much. Also with colour please do not use Red/Green together as that inhibits the ability of colour blind people accessing the information. I have have hidden the Jacobs ladder map as it doesnt fit within the section... and has no labelling to describe what is being spoken about, this also ignores the fact that Jacobs ladder isnt part of Kings Park. Gnangarra 15:15, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Should the entire section on Jacobs ladder be removed? Betterkeks (talk) 13:07, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 * How about renaming “Walks” to “Walks in and around Kings Park”, and then moving “Jacob’s Ladder” into that section? And maybe add a map depicting all of these walks? Betterkeks (talk) 03:27, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * there is still a lot of additional information to be expanded upon and ultimately separated out in to daughter articles, adding more to that list isnt going to be constructive. I would think creating a new set of articles about the walks in Perth, West Perth, Subiaco, and Nedlands is the logical way for that information to progress. Gnangarra 03:49, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The problem with "... around Kings Park" is that there's no definite limit, hence the risk that it then turns into an ever-expanding list. Also, see  below. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:25, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The width and colour can be changed. Dark red at 3px seems to work, IMHO. But it’s subjective. I’m open minded, so if you have some suggestions I’ll try it.Betterkeks (talk) 13:07, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The border changes as the map is scaled, the colour issue is an on going discussion at the WikiClubWest meetups because of its complexity with using open street maps and working with a colour blindness issue. Gnangarra 03:49, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Jacob's Ladder
(New section, so we can discuss this item in particular without it getting mixed up with .)

I propose that the Jacob's Ladder section be removed from the Kings Park article, on the grounds that it is (quite explicitly) not part of Kings Park. Do other editors have an opinion on this? Mitch Ames (talk) 08:25, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * agree with Mitch its not within Kings Park, therefore shouldn't be incorporated. Gnangarra 08:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Agree. It is a well-known feature though. Would an article with just the material in that section be acceptable? A map showing location is easy, and if there isn’t already a photograph around I can take one this week sometime on the way to work. But is that enough? Betterkeks (talk) 10:22, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Edith Dircksey Cowan Memorial
Edith Dircksey Cowan Memorial is not in Kings Park either: it is at the entrance. As I read it though, it should be and only isn’t because of gender bias at the time it was erected. Without wanting to become embroiled in controversy, should reference to this monument be removed as well (and continuing a wrong), or should it be kept in recognition of the context?
 * I'd be inclined to keep it, because:
 * While not in the Park, it is at the entrance.
 * It was intended to be in the Park.
 * Mitch Ames (talk) 11:24, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

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Wheatland Ferry

The Wheatland Ferry is a cable ferry that connects Marion County and Yamhill County across the Willamette River in the U.S. state of Oregon. The ferry travels approximately 580 ft across the river, depending on the height of the river, and is powered by two electric motors connected to an on-board diesel generator. The ferry is supported by two steel cables, one under water on the downriver side, and one overhead on the upriver side. The ferry also uses the overhead cable for steering.

Each time a replacement Wheatland ferry is launched, it is always named Daniel Matheny, after the person who originally established the ferry, followed by its number as a Roman numeral. The current ferry, launched in 2002 is Daniel Matheny V. This most recent ferry differs from its predecessors in that it has a capacity of nine cars, rather than the six Daniel Matheny IV carried, and it has its own self-contained diesel-electric generator. As its source of electricity is now an onboard generator, the current ferry is no longer reliant on electricity from overhead wires. The overhead cable serves the sole purpose of bracing the ferry against the current.

The ferry is a joint operation of Marion and Yamhill counties, with Marion County taking the responsibility of staffing and operating the ferry. It operates every day that river conditions permit. In summer, low water levels can cause the ferry to bottom out. Dredging is sometimes employed to deepen the ferry's crossing lane to keep it operating longer during the dry season. During rainy months, high water levels and fast currents can stop ferry operations.

All vehicles must pay a toll. Pedestrians travel at no charge.

Location
The Wheatland Ferry is located at Willamette River mile 72, near the former community of Wheatland and Willamette Mission State Park and roughly between the cities of Salem and Newberg. Its location is strategic, because the nearest bridge in either direction is roughly 15 miles distant. The Wheatland Ferry is sometimes used as an alternative to the bridge which crosses the Willamette River in Salem.

History
The first Daniel Matheny ferry was started by Daniel Matheny himself, in the 1850s. The ferry was a wooden raft powered by men with wooden poles.

The current ferry was built at Mar Com Shipyard in Portland Oregon in 2001.

Controversy
The Wheatland Ferry has been a catalyst for local political controversy. Some of this is the natural result of the challenges of inter-county politics and budget issues. Motorists who frequently use the ferry are another factor, citing long wait times, frequent closures for maintenance and increasing prices. Because of its proximity to Salem, the state's capital and second largest city, political and practical issues over Salem's own bridge issues affect the Wheatland Ferry.

Additional concerns about the ferry's operation were raised after the ferry operator was found to be intoxicated while running the ferry on November 4, 2012.

Ridership
The estimated annual number of vehicle crossings for 2007 was 240,000. While Yamhill and Marion counties are trying to increase ridership, the wait for the ferry can be lengthy at peak times. During harvest seasons, the ferry is frequently used by farmers delivering produce to canneries across the river.

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Nerur, Maharashtra

Nerur is a town of Kudal Taluka of Sindhudurg district (Sindhudurga in native Malvani language) of Maharashtra in India. It is one of the smaller towns in the district having 32 wadis. The Malvani dialect of Konkani is spoken here. Nerur is becoming an attraction amongst Indian and foreign tourists from Mumbai and Goa.

Etymology
The name Nerur said to be derived from conjunction of two Dravidian words Neer (means Water) and Oor (Means village in Dravidian languages) literally means "Village of Waters", some suggested that it could be from Nera (Time in Tamil) and Oor, but proximity of this place with Kannada speaking region suggests the former is more suitable.

Geography
Nerur is 7 km western side of Kudal and 480 km from Mumbai near the southern west coast of India, It is situated on the banks of Karli River bordering Malvan

Vasundhara Science Center
Founded in 1995 as public charitable trust, situated on Kudal-Malvan Road near Nerurpar. This was founded by Mr. C. B. Naik an ex-Bank of India officer. Mission of this foundation is to provide scientific knowledge in remote villages. Vasundhara has organized "Science on Wheels" to reach aspiring students of remote villages in Maharashtra. Nearly 1200 students from 90 villages have benefited from this initiative.

Nerurpar
Nerurpar is the westernmost part of Nerur village, it is situated on the banks of Karli river and famous for its scenery and backwaters.

Temples
There are many temples in the town. Some of them are : The temple of Shree Deva Kaleshwara is also located in the area. During Shivaratri, a big jatra is held.
 * Shree Kaleshwara Mandira,
 * Shri Gawadoba
 * Bhootnath Ravalnath.
 * Shree Kothari Brahmana Mandira

Culture
Nerur is known for its Dashavatara play. The Dashavatara artist Mahadev Ramachandra (aka Babi Kalingan) was born in this village and he made Dashavatara Natya as one of the famous art form in Konkan. In 1994 he was honored by Akhil Bharatiya Marathi Natya Parishad for his contribution in Dashavatara Natya. Khele (खेळे in Malvani) is one of the famous art which takes place in Shimgotsava (or Holi) every year.

Communities
The most common surnames of the people in the village include Naik, Nerurkar, Gawade, Raut, Rege, Parab, Fernandes and Prabhu. Chavhata, Jakat Naka and Nerurpar river areas are well populated.

Distance
Nerur is just 6 km away from Kudal railway station, 9 km away from Mumbai Goa highway. The domestic Chipi airport is 14 km away and it is one hour 20 minutes drive away from Calangute Beach Goa.

Nerur is a famous place in kudal, maharashtra

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Atropates

Atropates ( and Middle Persian Ātūrpāt; Ἀτροπάτης Atropátēs; c. 370 BC – after 321 BC) was a Persian nobleman who served Darius III, then Alexander the Great, and eventually founded an independent kingdom and dynasty that was named after him. Diodorus (18.4) refers to him as Atrápēs (Ἀτράπης), while Quintus Curtius (8.3.17) erroneously names him 'Arsaces'.

Biography
Towards the end of the Achaemenid Empire, Atropates was governor (satrap) of the Achaemenid province of Media. In the decisive Battle of Gaugamela (October 331 BCE) between Darius and Alexander, Atropates commanded the Achaemenid troops of Media and Sacasene.

Following his defeat in that battle, Darius fled to the Median capital of Ecbatana, where Atropates gave him hospitality. Darius attempted to raise a new army but was forced to flee Ecbatana in June 330 BCE. After Darius' death a month later at the hands of Bessus, Atropates surrendered to Alexander. Alexander initially chose Oxydates as satrap of Media, but in 328-327 BCE after a period of two years Alexander lost trust in Oxydates' loyalty, and Atropates was reinstated to his old position. In 325-324, Atropates delivered Baryaxes (a sought-after rebel of the region) to Alexander while the latter was at Pasargadae. Alexander's esteem for the governor rose so high that soon afterwards Atropates' daughter was married to Alexander's confidant and cavalry commander Perdiccas at the famous mass wedding at Susa in February 324 BCE.

Later that year, Alexander visited Atropates in Ecbatana with his good friend and second-in-command Hephaestion, who fell ill and died in October 324 BCE. At this time, "[i]t was related by some authors, that Atropates on one occasion presented Alexander with a hundred women, said to be Amazons; but Arrian ([Anabasis] vii. 13) disbelieved the story."

Alexander himself died eight months later on June 10, 323 BCE, and Atropates' new son-in-law Perdiccas was named regent of Alexander's half-brother Philip III. Following the "Partition of Babylon" in 323 BCE, Media was divided into two parts: the greater portion in the south-east was to be governed by Peithon, a general of Perdiccas, while a smaller portion in the north west (principally around the Araxes River basin) was given to Atropates. At some point thereafter, Atropates refused to convey allegiance to the diadochi and made his part of Media an independent kingdom, while his son-in-law Perdiccas was eventually murdered by Peithon in the summer of 320 BCE.

Legacy
The dynasty Atropates founded would rule the kingdom for several centuries, at first either independently or as vassals of the Seleucids, then as vassals of the Arsacids, into whose house they are said to have married.

The region that encompassed Atropates' kingdom come to be known to the Greeks as "Media Atropatene" after Atropates, and eventually simply "Atropatene". The Arsacids called it 'Aturpatakan' in Parthian, as did also the Sassanids who eventually succeeded them. Eventually, Middle Iranian became  and  in New Persian, whence the names of the modern nation of Azerbaijan and the Iranian region of Azerbaijan (which is largely contiguous with the borders of ancient Atropatene). Medieval Arab geographers came up with other explanations of the name, such as 'fire temple' or 'guardian of the fire', from the Persian words 'fire', and  'guardian/protector'.

Ancient works

 * Justin, Epitome of the Philippic History of Pompeius Trogus.
 * Strabo, Geographica.

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Pupu Tupuna

Pupu Tupuna is a series of Finnish children's books by the Finnish author Pirkko Koskimies.

The series stars a rabbit named Pupu Tupuna ("pupu" is Finnish for bunny), a cat and a mouse. The books are aimed at very young children and thus have many pictures and short, easy to read text. The first book in the series, Mihin menet Pupu Tupuna?, was published in 1972, with more than twenty further books following over the next three decades.

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Well (play)

Well is a play by Lisa Kron. It concerns relationships between mothers and daughters and "wellness", among other themes. It ran Off-Broadway in 2004 and then on Broadway in 2006.

Production history
Well premiered Off-Broadway at the Joseph Papp Public Theater, opening on March 16, 2004 (previews), and running to May 16, 2004. Directed by Leigh Silverman, the cast starred Lisa Kron and Jayne Houdyshell as Lisa's mother, Ann Kron. The Public Theater production garnered "Best of 2004" lists in The New York Times among other publications.

Well next ran at the American Conservatory Theater in San Francisco in February and March 2005, with Kron and Houdyshell.

The play opened on Broadway at the Longacre Theatre on March 10, 2006 in previews, officially on March 30, and closed on May 14, 2006 after 23 previews and 52 performances. Directed by Leigh Silverman, Lisa Kron and Jayne Houdyshell repeated their roles from the Off-Broadway production. According to Playbill, it "opened to some of the best reviews for any play this season."

The play was performed by the Huntington Theater Company at the Boston University Theater in March 2007, with Kron and Mary Pat Gleason as her mother, and at the Oregon Shakespeare Festival in their 2010 season, running February to June 2010.

Well premiered in London at the Trafalgar Studios 2, from 4 September 2008 (previews) to 27 September 2008 and transferred to the Apollo Theatre, London, from 29 December 2008 (previews), 30 December 2008 (official opening) and closed 24 January 2009 after 32 performances. The cast starred Natalie Casey as Lisa Kron and Sarah Miles as her mother, with direction by Eve Leigh.

Overview
Lisa Kron, as herself, presents her play as a work in progress, about mothers and daughters, "illness" and "wellness". The character of Lisa begins the "play": "This play is not about my mother and me." Kron focuses on her family "medical history and the Lansing, Michigan neighborhood where she grew up to knit together issues of health and illness both in the individual (her chronically unwell mother) and in a community." Ann Kron, Lisa's mother, is a semi-invalid. As the "play" progresses, Lisa tries to discuss her past in Michigan and her mother. However, Ann corrects Lisa's version of their past, and the other actors leave their assigned roles and instead talk with Ann about her life.

Well is "Lisa Kron's journey into her past. It's about her mother, her well-being and the alternate universe your parents live in where your therapy has no power." Producer Elizabeth Ireland McCann noted that the play "is hard to define. How do you pigeonhole something that is singular? How do you explain that Lisa Kron is playing herself in what she bills (as she reads note cards on stage) a 'theatrical exploration'?...'That is, I think, always a bit of problem with Well…it's a very hard play to describe.'"

Critical reception
Ben Brantley, in his review for The New York Times, wrote "What makes 'Well' much more than a clever, deconstructed theatrical riff is the way it keeps surprising itself with glimpses of an emotional depth, both murky and luminous, that goes beyond any tidy narrative."

Elyse Sommer, in her review for CurtainUp, wrote: "This being a serio-comedy, the final mother-daughter confrontation ends on a satisfying note. While the play would have benefited from some trimming of the hospital and neighborhood scenes, director Leigh Silverman otherwise keeps all three plot elements bouncing along -- Lisa's narrative, the scenes acted out from her play and the play-interruptus business courtesy of the well-meaning mother."

Awards and nominations
Kron (Best Performance by a Leading Actress in a Play) and Houdyshell (Best Featured Actress in a Play) received 2006 Tony Award nominations. Houdyshell also was nominated for the Drama Desk Award, Outer Critics Circle Award and Lucille Lortel Award, and won the Obie Award, Outstanding Performance. The play was nominated for the Outer Critics Circle Award as Outstanding Off-Broadway Play.

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Talk:Wild dog (disambiguation)

Dhol
The wild dog may also refer to the Indian Wild dog or "Dhol" as it is referred to in India. This is a species similar to the African wild dogs except that they are different in color and a bit smaller in size. Just as the African wild dogs will fight even a Lion, the Indian Wild Dogs are credited with having fought and killed Tigers. Someone please add some more details.

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minor test edit, fixing hyphen--Ocaasi (talk) 14:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Proposed de-disambiguation
I propose making this an article on the general idea of the wild dog, and moving the handful of other meanings to a "foo (disambiguation)" page. bd2412 T 14:16, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Personally I see no reason for even having this article. The term "wild dog" is defined by any dictionary a person picks up. osm20Oldsingerman20 (talk) 15:37, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

 * If someone types "w-i-l-d-_-d-o-g" into that search box, something should happen. But what?  I think that this page has to do the job of helping the person find what they are looking for.  They might be looking for one of the characters or novels and such, or they might be looking for article about the Dhole, which in India I gather is called that way.  They might be looking for an article about wild dogs in the broad sense; such as Canids.  Maybe we offer the person might not be looking for those dogs but to learn about feral dogs on the other hand.  As it stands now, anyone who searches for feral dog gets sent here, so there is no one article about feral dogs and I think there should be.  We do have several articles about different dogs that are clearly feral, but also ones like the Australian dingo which are probably better called a wild dog than a feral dog.  It's not like there is a clear line between them.  Maybe this article is the place where we explain the difference between a wild dog and a feral dog and explain all about the grey area between the two in as exhastive yet as brief way as appropriate.  We should put ourselves in the mind of a person who just typed in "wild dog" and think about how best to serve him or her and offer all the articles that he could be looking for and no others.  Chrisrus (talk) 18:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

The nature of this page.
There needs to be disambiguation done, but this page by it's nature might need to be something more than the usual disambiguation page. It may need to explain some things to the user so that he or she can get where s/he wants to go.

There is the comic book and the character, that's no problem.

There are the species called "Wild dogs"

Then there is a problem. We don't have any article about domestic dogs gone wild. Also, originally, and still in many places, few dogs are owned as pets. Most of them are stray, and in some places stray dogs are considered wild, but in other places, and originally, that's the normal life for a dog and they aren't considered wild, just stray. Then there are domestic dogs that have gone really wild. There is no article that explains this. We need an article about feral dogs more than the sub-standard article about the free-ranging urban dog. some work could be done there. Christus (talk) 14:01, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

 * Well, there are two options. One is to turn this page into an article on dogs-gone-wild, and move the ambiguous meanings (like the comic book) to Wild dog (disambiguation). The other is to make an article at a separate title like Feral dogs (which currently redirects here, for no particularly good reason that I can see) and add a link to it in this article. bd2412  T 15:25, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I am not trying to be difficult about this page, but if you want to include more material than this, the thing to do is write an article under a separate title. Cheers! bd2412  T 03:18, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Please tell us what is wrong with this page right now so it can be fixed. osm20Oldsingerman20 (talk) 08:48, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong with the page right now, as a disambiguation page. A disambig page is not intended to be particularly informative; it is almost like an error message, an indication that you've reached the wrong place by accident and were probably looking for one of the listed links, giving the reader just enough information to find the right one. The problem is that Wikipedia presently has no article specifically on feral dogs, so one needs to be written in order for this page to have a target to point toward. bd2412  T 12:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I see. Well then, why don't one of you folks who knows what to do initially start writing an article on feral dogs and the rest of us can contribute? osm20Oldsingerman20 (talk) 15:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Ok. I'd like to start with an inventory of the articles about stray dogs.

First, there is Stray dogs in Bangkok and also Stray dogs in Moscow. If you read them, they're probably two different referents in an evolutionary way. Just to take the most obvious example, those in Bangkok have short hair and are adapted to hot weather, while in Moscow they're ready for the snow. They are examples of local never-bred landraces, but the Russian ones show more signs of interbreeding with pure-bred dogs, so they might be to a greater extent true mixed breed dogs.

The Thai ones, on the other hand, seem to be pure Canis lupus dingo to experts. MSW3, probably the most cited authority on mammals in Wikipedia, says that Corbet and Hill have written persuasively that the domestic dog be treated as this separate C.l. dingo taxon in island and peninsular southeast Asia, and Oceana. I they are talking about the fact that Corbet believes the dog evolved more than once, and one of those places is roughly Thailand/Southern China on a modern map. Corbet talks about this in his book I have here, The Dingo in Australia and in Asia. It's pretty interesting, but let's leave that for now.

That's it, there are no other articles called "Stray dogs in (this particular place)". There is, however, this, Free-ranging urban dog. In this paragraph, I'd like to talk about that article. One might expect the referent of an article called "Free-ranging urban dogs" to be an article about stray dogs in general. Instead, it is about the stray dogs of India, the Balkans, and the former Soviet Union.

Then there is this article, Sato. It's about a local landrace that seems pretty uniform, almost like a breed. These live in Puerto Rico, and pretty much nowhere else, but there are very many of them on Puerto Rico. Some people say they don't make bad pets, but they are very well adapted to life as strays, and dogs that are well adapted to that type of life don't tend to do as well as breeds selected for their suitability to life as a pet. So says the article mixed breed dog and the article I'd like to discuss next, and have referred to above, Canis lupus dingo.

Within the article Canis lupus dingo can be found information about Stray dogs in Malaysia, Java, and other Indonesian Islands. There is the coastal village dogs of Papua New Guinea, and also some information about the Thai dog and some others. It links to the highland New Guinea Singing Dog and the Australian Dingo, two types who may be better described as true Wild dogs, whereas the others are more stray or feral. Breeds such as the Talomian and the Thai Ridgeback which have been created from C.l.dingo stock are mentioned and linked to, as is the case with the Shiba Inu, which some think might be of Canis lupus dingo stock. Of course, just because you're Canis lupus dingo doesn't mean you are stray, feral, or wild, but there are things there we might want to use to assemble this article.

The article Askal seems to be about the stray dogs of the Philippines, or if not that, one particular type of stray dog they have there, and how it is being bred into a true breed. Have a look, I haven't read it closely but plan to.

There are probably more, but that's all I can find at the moment. I think we need to recruit an expert in this area to help us. Chrisrus (talk) 01:34, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

So, we're looking at doing an article specifically on feral dogs? Then will the words 'feral" and "stray" to be used as meaning the same thing? I think not because a dog can be a stray who is looking for his home again as in the movie "Milo & Otis" and has not turned feral.  A feral dog is one who has truly left humankind in favor of an independent lifestyle or at least a lifestyle free of humans.  Not a bad idea, really,considered how humans have harmed animals down through the ages. In regard to the articles you've mentioned Chrisrus, we'll have to first decide which pertain to "strays" and which pertain to "feral dogs".  Then do an article that "mentions" the various feral dogs in some manner and has a brief description of each, but leaves an in depth study to the articles individually devoted to each particular animal? So does wiki have an article on stray dogs? Yes, it does. So then do we just want to leave the article "Stray dogs" alone and concentrate on a "feral dog" article? I'll have to read it again, but the article called "stray dogs" should link with any wiki article about stray dogs, not feral dogs because I think they are two different things. I think strays may become feral, but they go to feral in stages, not just instantly as soon as they escape or get lost or whatever. There are big differences between stray and feral dogs. " The term "Feral Dog" refers to any canine gone wild, completely wild. In some feral dog populations, there may be members in various stages of feralization.  Some members may be newly lost or strayed.  Others may may have been strayed for quite some time and are slowly being integrated into the feral mainstream, while others may be have been born as a feral, perhaps 10th generation feral.  One of the deciding differences when deciding whether a dog is "feral" or "wild" is the degree of isolation and/or the degree of landrace characteristics.  In other words, a feral population will be in flux because of constantly acquiring new members from the world of domestication whereas a wild population is stabilized for whatever reason and in not accepting new members, has, in fact, become a race of it's own.  Scientifically, this group, landrace or race could also be called a "breed" although the name "breed" is generally reserved for naming "domesticated breeds of dog".. So then basically, if a dog is lost, say for example, it becomes instantly a lost or strayed dog. It then is a stray. If it continues to be lost or strayed for a period of time it may become feral, that is severing bonds with human kind and living independently. Now then, if it continues as a feral beast for a long period of time and in some manner is able to isolate itself from outside hybridization, then it will eventually become a "wild" dog having attained a niche all its own on the taxonomic charts. What to do? osm20Oldsingerman20 (talk) 16:57, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think we should definitely have an article on feral dogs, and the distinction between stray, feral, and "wild" can be teased out there. Presumably, feral dogs generally either start out as strays, or are descended from them. bd2412  T 17:57, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, in my way of thinking ferals can either start off as a stray or lost dog and then go feral or down the road, a feral dog will whelp feral pus and after about 3,000 years they can be called "wild" dogs instead of feral dogs. At least, that's my take on things. osm20Oldsingerman20 (talk) 04:08, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

 * In contexts like the article Stray dogs in Moscow, you can tell from reading it that in intended referent of the term is a dog without an owner and not in captivity, but still never far from and dependant on human society. A dog with an owner who gets lost for awhile might be a "stray" in some sense, but I think we can leave lost dogs that do have owners out of the referent of "stray".
 * In the article about Laika (dog), the first astronaut, he is called a "stray". Used that way, even if a dog is taken in, in this usage, he's still a "stray".  Which is an odd usage to me, because the way I use the word, if you take in a stray dog, he's not a stray anymore.  I guess in Russia the translated word "stray" for what Laika was, in that context referred to a bloodline, that of the random-bred, or never-bred street dog population that has lived there since practically forever seems like.
 * The article Feral, have you all read it? It has some mention of dogs, specifically the Australian Dingo and the Carolina Dog.  One thing is clear, it's never used for animals that have no domestic ancestors.  Places like Hawaii have trouble with feral populations of goats and pigs and dogs and cats and so on because people brought their domestic animals with them to Hawaii but they escaped and started a breeding population apart from us.  The thing is, there may be a difference between a feral dog that sticks around the village and people and such animals as the Carolina dog and Australian Dingo, which can and often do live more like wolves and give people a wide berth.  Unlike pigs and goats and such, which can be counted on to head for the hills when they get away, dogs are interested in people by nature and it would take an extraordinary set of circumstances to make them change that nature and run from people by nature.
 * Another article of interest is the article Pariah dog. It's about the Indian street dogs, too, but there are articles about dogs bred from that stock, such as one confusingly called The Indian Pariah Dog.  There has been some progress on that article,  but it still conflates different referents of the same name, one of which is simply "stray".  Have a look, it might be useful or have good references. Chrisrus (talk) 08:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I forgot. There is also this little article, have a look: estray. Chrisrus (talk) 08:18, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

In my way of thinking the Moscow dogs are strays for a time and then if they're not taken in and given a home, they become feral. They might evolve into a kind of landrace, but never into a breed of their own because they have constant influxes of new blood from new strays. If no strays were ever allowed to happen in Moscow, then the feral population would evolve into a landrace and into a breed. Village dogs or dogs that hang around villages, are feral. Village dogs that have no specific owner, but that live in the village and live among the residents are actually owned, perhaps not by one individual, but the villagers and dogs own one another. They are not strays. If the village dogs leave the village and get away from human contact then they move through the state of stray to the state of feral. They again will never evolve into a real landrace or breed because their bloodlines are constantly infused with new blood. Only the dogs isolated, such as AU Dingoes and NGSD have had the ability to move from POSSIBLE stray to POSSIBLE feral to landrace to breed. The same crux is that no one has yet to prove that AU Dingoes or NGSDs were ever tamed or domesticated at all. I still need to reread Pariah, and Indian Pariah and the estray articles. osm20Oldsingerman20 (talk) 19:52, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * We have a lot of material here now - certainly enough to build an article - but no references. We need some sources indicating that these are technically correct distinctions, and not just matters of opinion. bd2412  T 21:59, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Most of what I've stated are simply dictionary definitions. Where will you locate the article in order to work on it?osm20Oldsingerman20 (talk) 06:55, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

To continue what I was doing before, if this navigation page is to help the reader more, we could send them to the category "feral dogs" and make sure that all these articles having to do with feral, wild, or stray dogs, both that I have linked to above and others that Wikipedia might already have, Category:Feral Dogs. We might say words to the effect of "sorry, we have no article, but we do have this catecory page, Category:Feral dogs, which we can send you to and good luck when you get there! But I don't know if WP:MOSDAB guidelines feel about having category pages on disambiguation page lists.

To respond to your discussion, yes, a dictionary citation might be a helpful thing to get started on an article that could sit where the redirect to this page at the link feral dog sits now. Google scholar searches generally result in only reliable sources as defined by wikipedia, but few results for "feral dog" that I got when I seached it seem to speak in general terms about them. They most speak about the effect of feral dogs on the environment in one specific situation or diseases they can have, or some such. A good dictionary citation would be a good thing to find, as would this article here if we could see it: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304376282901419. You could help by searching Google Books or Google Scholar for more. Chrisrus (talk) 08:08, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the thing to do is begin to draft an article at Feral dog using the information on this page and whatever sources we can come up with on short order. There is some useful information on feral dogs in James Serpell, The Domestic Dog: Its Evolution, Behaviour, and Interactions With People (1995), p. 241-242. So far as I recall, MOSDAB provides for links to categories and special page searches. Cheers! bd2412  T 16:13, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey, you guys: I found something that might help resolve this issue. Check it out, | http://snr.missouri.edu/fw/faculty/pdf/gompper/intraguild-competition.pdf. A. T. Vanak and M. E. Gompper say that “Free-ranging dog” is used by experts to refer to those that subsist on human society but are not confined but are still “comesaral” with humans, which means “eating from the same table as” humans. The urban free-ranging dogs are often discussed separately from rural free-ranging dogs because the latter have a much greater effect on wildlife, so there could be a place for two articles there. The “villiage dog”s are free-ranging, but rarely leave their rural village, which is their territory and they defend it from outsiders, so don't mix with the feral ones as much. Villiage dogs are at least tolerated by the local people for some reason and comesaral.  Experts tend to use the term “feral dogs” as dogs become less comesaral, more independent of humans for food.  They hunt and scavange in wild places and revert back to being more of a wild animal, hunting and scavaging on their own.  This hapChrisrus (talk) 03:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * We certainly have enough material to put together an article at this point. bd2412  T 17:54, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. Let's move this to the discussion page for the user page you created for assembling the article.  Chrisrus (talk) 04:52, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That is a fine idea. bd2412  T 15:35, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Links to references about feral dogs
I'll just start making a list of articles I find for us to review for possible use. osm20Oldsingerman20 (talk) 13:16, 26 May 2011 (UTC) http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/pdfs/dogs/feraldogs.pdf http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/08/0821_030821_straydogs.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldsingerman20 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Consider using Google Scholar when you search, as it pretty much only returns WP:RS stuff, the highest quality.  If you just use regular Google you tend to get alot more blogs and such.  You have to hit the "more" choice at the top of the Google page to find Scholar.  Chrisrus (talk) 18:01, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

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Legio II Flavia Constantia

The Legio II Flavia Constantia (reliable Flavian legion) was a comitatensis Roman legion, created by Diocletian or Galerius, probably in the years 293, 296 or 297.

Since Roman strategy at the time required each province to have two legions, and the Thebaid province had none, the II Flavia Constantia was formed together with I Maximiana to garrison the newly created province Thebaid which became part of the new diocese of Aegyptus.

Possibly in 293, a new military camp was built around the Amun temple in Luxor to be the base of the legion. Until the time of the Notitia Dignitatum the legion was stationed in Cusae. The Thebaid province faced south against the enemies the Romans, such as the Nubians, Kush, Meroe and Axum. The name of the legion is related to Constantius Chlorus, who was one of the four emperors at the time of the tetrarchs.

Over the course of time, probably under Constantine I, when the troops of the Egyptian provinces were united under the command of a dux (CIL II 12073), the legionary troops of the province were increased with units from both legions of Aegyptus I Iovia, II Traiana, and III Diocletiana, the latter gradually being divided into three garrisons (Not. or. XXXI 31. 33. 38). The legion, which was named after Constantine, received large sums of money in the form of Donatives from the emperor. One depiction of them on a wall in a legionary fortress showcases the officers of this legion with expensive tunics.

II Flavia Constantia Thebaeorum, which belonged, at the time of the Notitia, to the comitatus of the magister militum per Orientem (Not. or. VII 10 = 45), was certainly a split off from II Flavia Constantia, which was, for more than a century, an established border-legion. The impulse for this split was probably given by a measure of Theodosius I, to mix a part of the Barbarians, which were passed over to him, with the troops in Egypt. These barbarians were added to the Egyptian troops and their accompanying commander in Macedonia (Zosimus IV 30 and 31), who resided at that time in Thessalonica. A part of II Flavia Constantia belonged to these Aiguptioi (Egyptians). It is fitting that at this time the legion II Flavia Valentis Thebaeorum (Not or. VII 11 = 46), which accompanied the troops in the Notitia and was named after and probably raised by Emperor Valens, was no longer mentioned with the garrison of Thebaidos (Not. or. XXXI), because of the short time it stayed in the province.

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Argyll and Bute (Scottish Parliament constituency)

Argyll and Bute (Gaelic: Earra-Ghàidheal agus Bòd) is a constituency of the Scottish Parliament (Holyrood) covering most of the council area of Argyll and Bute. It elects one Member of the Scottish Parliament (MSP) by the first past the post method of election. It is also one of eight constituencies in the Highlands and Islands electoral region, which elects seven additional members, in addition to the eight constituency MSPs, to produce a form of proportional representation for the region as a whole.

The seat has been held by Jenni Minto of the Scottish National Party since the 2021 Scottish Parliament election.

Electoral region
The Argyll and Bute constituency is part of the Highlands and Islands electoral region; the other seven constituencies are Caithness, Sutherland and Ross, Inverness and Nairn, Moray, Na h-Eileanan an Iar, Orkney, Shetland and Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch.

The region covers most of Argyll and Bute council area, all of the Highland council area, most of the Moray council area, all of the Orkney Islands council area, all of the Shetland Islands council area and all of Na h-Eileanan Siar.

Constituency boundaries and council area
The Argyll and Bute constituency was created at the same time as the Scottish Parliament, in 1999, with the name and boundaries of an existing Westminster constituency. In 2005, however, the Westminster (House of Commons) constituency was enlarged slightly.

The Holyrood constituency covers most of the Argyll and Bute council area. The rest of the council area (which includes the town of Helensburgh) is covered by the Dumbarton constituency in the West Scotland electoral region. The Argyll and Bute Westminster constituency has covered the whole of the council area since 2005.

From the 2011 Scottish Parliament election, boundary changes altered the existing Argyll and Bute constituency. All but three electoral wards of the Argyll and Bute council area were used in the creation of the new seat, namely:

 * Cowal, Dunoon, Isle of Bute, Kintyre and the Islands, Mid Argyll, Oban North and Lorn, Oban South and the Isles, South Kintyre.

As of 2019, Argyll and Bute's population (60,394) was the lowest among the 70 Holyrood mainland constituencies, barely two-thirds of the total of those at the top of the list, headed by Linlithgow which had over 95,000 within its boundaries.


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Les Kershaw

Les Kershaw is the former chief scout and Academy Director for Manchester United.

Kershaw studied at Manchester Metropolitan University before being recruited by United manager Alex Ferguson. He had previously acted as a part-time scout for Arsenal.

He received an award from the Royal Society of Chemistry in September 2005.

Kershaw retired at the end of the 2005–06 season and was replaced as Director of the Academy by Brian McClair. However, he continued to work for United part-time, and was credited with discovering Rafael and Fabio.

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Lennon (musical)

Lennon is a musical with music and lyrics by John Lennon and book by Don Scardino, who also directed its premiere. The musical is about the life of Lennon and is notable for Scardino's choice to be almost exclusively based on Lennon's own words and to focus on Lennon's solo career, with no songs from the Lennon–McCartney catalogue.

The "$7 million bio-musical" first opened in San Francisco, California, in April 2005. After what The Times described as "a troubled try-out in San Francisco, a cancelled run in Boston and a radical rewrite", it had 42 previews and 49 performances on Broadway at the Broadhurst Theatre from 14 August to 24 September 2005. The role of Lennon is played by performers of both sexes and different ages and skin colours, an approach Scardino said was inspired by "I Am the Walrus" where Lennon writes, "I am he, as you are he, as you are me, and we are all together." This use of multiple actors was scaled back after the San Francisco production, with the final rewrite having a single actor narrating Lennon's story.

Yoko Ono was actively involved in the production, retaining final script approval and requiring the show's Broadway producers to complete the script and present it to her live (albeit in workshop format). The show's credits included the phrase "With Special Thanks to Yoko Ono Lennon".

The limited use of Beatles songs, attributed to creative choices and not licensing issues, led critics to dismiss the work as "Ono-centric". Ono was unapologetic about the choice: "If we put 'Yesterday' in, it's not really fair to the Beatles because we're leaning on their power. We're talking about John now, thank you." She later said "It is definitely John's story – from Liverpool 1940 to New York 1980. I am the B-side, and that's how it should be. I think he would have loved it." The musical also conspicuously omits any mention of May Pang, Lennon's lover for a period of 18 months in 1974–75 when the singer was separated from Ono.

Broadway opening
The Broadway production went into previews on 7 July 2005, opened 14 August 2005, in which it ran for forty-one days, and closed on 24 September of the same year.

The Broadway premiere was produced by Allan McKeown, Edgar Lansbury (who conceived the show and brought in Scardino ), Clear Channel Entertainment and Jeffrey Sine.

The opening night cast of Lennon included Will Chase (who as narrator was the "lead" John Lennon), Chuck Cooper, Julie Danao-Salkin, Mandy Gonzalez, Marcy Harriell, Chad Kimball, Terrence Mann, Julia Murney, Michael Potts, Rona Figueroa, Mark Richard Ford, Nicole Lewis and Darin Murphy.

The show opened to negative reviews, with Ben Brantley of The New York Times stating: "In the immortal words of Yoko Ono, 'Aieeeee!' A fierce primal scream – of the kind Ms. Ono is famous for as a performance and recording artist – is surely the healthiest response to the agony of 'Lennon,' the jerry-built musical shrine that opened last night at the Broadhurst Theater."

Playbill quoted Paul Shaffer in its coverage of the musical's opening night: "I just thought it was phenomenal. It reminded me of what an influence John was — how strong an influence he was not only in popular music but in culture, and how much we miss him. He was a remarkable writer. He'd do catchy so you loved the song right away, then the second time you would hear more of it. Let's face it: the more you listen to his music, the more you hear. I'm still learning things when I hear his songs."

Songs
The musical includes two previously unpublished songs by Lennon: "India, India" and "I Don't Want to Lose You", the latter of which is a working title to Now and Then. Now and Then is a song that was originally a demo recorded sometime around 1977, and it would be considered a possible third single to The Beatles Anthology project in 1995 along with Free as a Bird and Real Love before being put on hold due to technical difficulties. It would be officially released on November 2, 2023 by the Beatles billed as their "last song".

A December 2004 Playbill article mentioned that the rarely heard Lennon song "Cookin' (in the Kitchen of Love)" (heard on the Ringo's Rotogravure album by Ringo Starr) would also be included, though the song was cut before the musical's Broadway opening.

 * Act I
 * "New York City"
 * "Mother"
 * "Look at Me"
 * "Money (That's What I Want)"
 * "Twist and Shout"
 * "Instant Karma!"
 * "India, India"
 * "Real Love" ("Girls and Boys")
 * "Oh My Love"
 * "Mind Games"
 * "The Ballad of John and Yoko"
 * "How Do You Sleep?"
 * "God"
 * "Give Peace a Chance"

 * Act II
 * "Power to the People"
 * "Woman Is the Nigger of the World"
 * "Attica State"
 * "Gimme Some Truth"
 * "I'm Losing You"/"I'm Moving On"
 * "I'm Stepping Out"
 * "I Don't Want to Lose You"
 * "Whatever Gets You thru the Night"
 * "Woman"
 * "Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy)"
 * "Watching the Wheels"
 * "(Just Like) Starting Over"
 * "Grow Old with Me"
 * "Imagine"

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Chinese Magic
I'm not actually much of a magician - I collect magical references etc. and I've used some magical principles in my decoration, but I don't do much in the way of rituals etc. (beyond simple divination such as tarot cards). I'm more of a spectator or fan than a participant. The two books I got those translations out of are the Magician's Companion by Bill Whitcomb (ISBN 0875428681) and The Complete Guide to Chinese Astrology by Derek Walters (ISBN 1842931113). DenisMoskowitz 18:46, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was DELETE. Linuxbeak | Talk 22:22, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Pop Angel
NN band vanity. Or a possible attack page (hinted at such statement like "5 gay students") -202.156.6.62 12:48, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. utcursch | talk 12:56, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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Eastern Technical High School

Eastern Technical High School (ETHS) is high school in Essex, Baltimore County, Maryland, United States. It was designated as a Maryland Blue Ribbon High School in 1997, 2009, and 2010, a National Blue Ribbon High School in 2010, and a USDE New American High School in 1999.

ETHS was previously known as Eastern Vocational Technical High School (EVT), but due to a lack of participation in the vocational program and an increased demand for technology education, the vocational program was removed and the school was renamed in 1994. Unlike the other high schools in the area, Eastern Tech is not bound to one specific school district. All students must take an entrance exam and meet certain criteria for acceptance to the school.

Academics
The 2019–2020 enrollment at Eastern Technical High School was 1172 students.

Eastern Technical High school received a 74.6 out of a possible 82.5 points (90%) on the 2018-2019 Maryland State Department of Education Report Card and received a 5 out of 5 star rating, ranking in the 99th percentile among all Maryland schools.

As of April 29, 2021, U.S News ranked Eastern Tech as the 132nd high school in the nation.

Athletics
In 2005, the Varsity Baseball Team won the school's first ever State Championship. A few months later, the Girls Varsity Soccer Team won the second.

Eastern Tech's teams occasionally practice on other campuses around the Essex area, such as the neighboring Kenwood High School or CCBC Essex.

State championships
Football Girls Soccer Boys Soccer Wrestling Baseball Softball
 * 2A 2009
 * John H. Cox Football Sportsmanship Award 2009
 * 2A 2005
 * 2A 2017
 * Class AA-A 1987
 * 2A 2005, 2007
 * 2A 2014

Notable alumni

 * Timothy R. Ferguson, Former Maryland State Senator
 * Rudy Gay, former NBA basketball player, attended Eastern Tech High School for 2 years
 * Ego Nwodim, current Saturday Night Live cast member
 * Scott Seiss, actor, comedian and TikToker

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I wish I were better at editing in "wiki form". Ryan (talk) 12:30, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

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Ironic error
Thanks for picking that up. Unfortunately, the synthesis program I use stopped working a few days ago when I updated it, and all efforts to get it working, including re-installation of the old version, have failed. I probably wouldn't have thought to put that article through it anyway.--DooM Drat 06:27, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

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Longwan, Wenzhou

Longwan District is an outlying district of the city of Wenzhou, Zhejiang province, China. It has a population of some 200,000 people in 2000 but grew to almost 750,000 people in 2010 due to rapid urbanization. It is famous for private enterprises, especially leather and the metal industry. Also, this district is one of the most important one in Wenzhou.

Administrative divisions
Subdistricts:
 * Yongzhong Subdistrict (永中街道), Haibin Subdistrict (海滨街道), Yongxing Subdistrict (永兴街道), Puzhou Subdistrict (蒲州街道), Haicheng Subdistrict (海城街道), Zhuangyuan Subdistrict (状元街道), Yaoxi Subdistrict (瑶溪街道), Shacheng Subdistrict (沙城街道), Tianhe Subdistrict (天河街道), Lingkun Subdistrict (灵昆街道), Xinghai Subdistrict (星海街道)

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There is one little error in the article. Katia Bellillo and oliviero Diliberto became ministers after leaving the PRC. They became ministers in the D'Alema government. --Brandoale 12:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I've changed this, but the best thing to do when you see mistakes is to correct them yourself! Don't worry about your English, it is easily good enough to do this. Anyway, if you express yourself in a slightly unnatural way somebody will probably fix it soon enough - most English-speakers can spot bad grammar, there aren't so many who can spot mistakes about the history of Italian communism. So be bold! Palmiro | Talk 13:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

In Italy the two chambers of parliament share an equal role, so the "camera dei deputati" is not the lower one --Luigi

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 * While editing is a good thing there are fundamental elements of Wikipedia that are also important, such as the "Five pillars" as well as BLP sourcing requirements, and it would seem some of the participating editors should know this. Thank you, Otr500 (talk) 19:17, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

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3RR
You are in danger of violating the three revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. --Viriditas | Talk 22:37, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Did you have to be so harsh, Viriditas?
 * Redzen, is it true? Did you revert four times in one day? You're new here, so you might not be aware that there's a rule against that.

 * Please discuss the changes to Anne Frank on the Talk:Anne Frank page. Uncle Ed 02:06, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

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I am an occupational therapist after graduating from Towson University in 2007.

I am trying to make contributions to areas that surround occupational therapy, and basically advocate for the things we do. I'm still new at this Wikipedia thing, but I like it a lot!

Articles I've made heavy contributions to

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I have a blog! And I just started an occupational therapy blog!

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Talk:Kevin Jones (American football)

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Considering what it is and the probability of being one of the more unpopular articles, I think this page is fine the way it is. If Jones the running back say becomes super-famous or something I could imagine him needing his own page. Whats with the one format for all articles standard that wikipedia sets? Doesen't make sense half of the time. I'm a n00b here, so i'm going to leave this unsigned, because I don't know the code to sign it.

 * What? 74.108.90.227 (talk) 00:51, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

For anyone interested in writing this just use as a reference. Mithotyn 10:43, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

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This is not the chinese site, you can't do what you wish to do on here. respect people's contribution. --SummerThunder 21:48, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Please review the guidelines on Civility.-- Jasonzhuocn .... 台灣社群 22:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Speaking of which, Jasonzhuocn, one of your recent edit summaries seems inappropriate. Calling an edit "vandalism" when it is not obviously so is not assuming good faith.
 * A comment in an edit history such as "reverting vandalism" is not a personal attack if it's concerned with clear vandalism, although otherwise it is. "Vandalism" imputes bad intentions and bad motives to the person accused. If the edit that is being reverted could be interpreted as a good-faith edit, then don't label it as vandalism. See Wikipedia:Vandalism for what is and isn't vandalism.
 * That is from WP:PA. –Gunslinger47 01:30, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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