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User talk:Hatto

Unblocked
--Hatto (talk) 13:27, 10 November 2021 (UTC) You are marking every edit you make as a "minor edit". You may be doing this unintentionally, but it appears to others that you may be attempting to avoid scrutiny of your edits by others. You also, until now, were not communicating with us. Communication is required for this collaborative project. 331dot (talk) 14:12, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 * You were originally blocked and then created a new account to evade the block. See WP:Sockpuppetry. Doug Weller  talk 14:41, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

I wrote these replies using DeepL Translator because of my poor English.
 * Perhaps I didn't communicate because I didn't understand English very well. (I'm Japanese) Now that I think about it, I'm very sorry about that. --Hatto (talk) 14:59, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 * I noticed that there was a talk about me in Administrators%27 noticeboard/Incidents. I'm Japanese and not good at English, so I'm not sure about some things, but it seems that some users insist that I should be unblocked. I used to use "minor edit" without really understanding it until I was blocked in 2008, but now I've reflected on it and stopped using it a lot. Am I really going to be unblocked? --Hatto (talk) 14:59, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Have you read WP:Minor edit. I have family in Japan, by the way. Doug Weller  talk 17:04, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 * Thank you for unblocking User:Hatto0467! But can you unblock User:Hatto if it's no problem? Instead, please block User:Hatto0467 and I won't use it again. I'm so sorry for sockpuppet. --Hatto (talk) 15:25, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * @Hatto if you'd like me to do that can you flip the redirect so User:Hatto0467 points here and there is a disclosure of the other account on this userpage? Barkeep49 (talk) 16:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 * I'm very very sorry. As mentioned above, I'm not good at English, so I use DeepL Translator to write my replies. I may not have understood the meaning very well. Does it mean that I need to redirect User:Hatto0467 to User:Hatto by myself? --Hatto (talk) 16:23, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I will clarify. Please redirect User:Hatto0467 to User:Hatto. Please write on User:Hatto that you were also User:Hatto0467. Barkeep49 (talk) 16:37, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 * Is this OK? Please see User:Hatto and User:Hatto0467. --Hatto (talk) 16:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. I have unblocked this account. Barkeep49 (talk) 17:25, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for unblocking me! And can you merge User:Hatto0467's edit history into User:Hatto if it's possible? --Hatto (talk) 22:47, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's possible to merge your accounts. I think you can copy User:Hatto0467's watchlist to this account though, if you want to. Philbert 2.71828 07:55, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Advice: Never tick the "minor edit" box. You don't lose anything by not ticking it, and if you're not sure you understand when to mark as minor then it's safer to never mark as minor. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 21:52, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 * I don't know if you saw my mention of my nephew - he lives in Nagoya and is a photojournalist, you might be interested in his website which has marvelous photos of Japan. Like me he's American but his wife is Japanese. I'm pleased to see you have your old username back. If you ever want help, let me know. Doug Weller  talk 10:40, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Unblocked in the Italian Wikipedia
Long time no see. Actually, since User:Hatto was blocked in the Italian Wikipedia in 2008, I have been using Hatto0467 instead. Sorry for the other language version, but is it still possible to block Hatto0467 and unblock Hatto here? (I think perhaps the reason is that I moved the article as follows, but this does not seem to be a serious enough reason to be blocked indefinitely.)
 * The pillows → The Pillows
 * Ayumi hamasaki → Ayumi Hamasaki
 * Kawamura Ryuichi → Ryuichi Kawamura
 * MALICE MIZER → Malice Mizer
 * The GazettE → The Gazette
 * Utada Hikaru → Hikaru Utada
 * Ogura Yuko → Yuko Ogura

--Hatto (talk) 01:22, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * /Hatto. I have unblocked User:Hatto0467 and blocked this account. You will need to update user/user talk so they don't redirect here. Barkeep49 (talk) 20:41, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I have misled you as my English is not very good. No, I didn't request to unblock User:Hatto0467 at all. I'm talking about whether or not it is possible to unblock User:Hatto and block User:Hatto0467 in the Italian Wikipedia (:it:Utente:Hatto of the Italian version has been blocked by it:Utente:Vituzzu since March 2008). Therefore, I didn't understand why User:Hatto0467 was unblocked and User:Hatto was blocked at all. You do not need to block User:Hatto and unblock User:Hatto0467 in the English version because I would like to continue to use User:Hatto as I always have, not User:Hatto0467. I am very concerned that I will never be able to use User:Hatto again because it was blocked (In fact, I have never used User:Hatto0467 since User:Hatto was unblocked in November 2021.). I am very sorry for you, but I have no intention of using User:Hatto0467 at all anymore, so could you please block User:Hatto0467 and unblock User:Hatto again? --Hatto (talk) 00:36, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

 * Hello, long time no see. You have helped me in unblocked section in November 2021. I wrote a reply to User:Barkeep49 but it has not come yet and I asked you because you mentioned earlier that you have family in Japan. User:Hatto0467 was unblocked and User:Hatto was blocked again. However, this was not my intention at all, as User:Hatto0467 was unblocked even though I have no intention of using User:Hatto0467 in the future. Perhaps I misled the user because I am Japanese and not fluent in English. I asked about the unblock of User:Hatto on the Italian Wikipedia, which somehow led to User:Hatto being blocked on the English version. (Please read above for more details.) I did not request to unblock User:Hatto0467 and block User:Hatto, so I have no idea why this happened yesterday. Could you please block User:Hatto0467 and unblock User:Hatto again? I am very very afraid that I will never be able to use User:Hatto again in the future. (I don't know if my English is conveyed well to you, but I hope it is.) --Hatto (talk) 02:30, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * @Barkeep49 pinging you as I'm not clear about this request. Sorry Hatto. Doug Weller  talk 08:58, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * As stated above, I will state again. I have been blocked by it:Utente:Vituzzu since March 2008 as per the Italian version contributions. However, I have only moved articles such as "The pillows" to "The Pillows", "MALICE MIZER" to "Malice Mizer", "Ayumi hamasaki" to "Ayumi Hamasaki" and "Ogura Yuko" to "Yuko Ogura" etc, and I still have no idea why User:Hatto was blocked indefinitely. Are these article moves so bad vandalism that I will be blocked indefinitely? I don't think so. So I asked User:Barkeep49 if he could unblock the Italian version of User:Hatto and somehow User:Hatto0467 was unblocked while User:Hatto was blocked in English Wikipedia. I never understood why User:Hatto0467 was unblocked and User:Hatto was blocked as I never intended to use User:Hatto0467 in English Wikipedia at all in the future. Will I never be able to use User:Hatto again? I am very worried about that. --Hatto (talk) 15:35, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * We have no authority over any other language Wikipedia so can't help with a block on another Wiki. Doug Weller  talk 16:02, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Should I ask it:User:Vituzzu who blocked me if he can unblock User:Hatto? And can you unblock English Wikipedia's User:Hatto and block User:Hatto0467 again? --Hatto (talk) 16:06, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I am curious as to why you have not answered my question, but I thought you might be busy and I thought it might be better to be considerate and not rush you, so I kept quiet. However, I do not intend to use User:Hatto0467 at all in the future and would like to continue to use User:Hatto. I have a question about replying to you and unblocking User:Hatto, so please reply to my question.(In addition, I wrote about the unblocking User:Hatto in it:Discussioni utente:Hatto.) --Hatto (talk) 11:52, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I have been quite busy and so this is my first chance to actually look at these pings. I do not know how to be unblocked on Italian Wikipedia. Asking Vituzzu is a good step. I will return the blocks to the way that they had been. Barkeep49 (talk) 13:43, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your reply. I thought I was being ignored by you. But why did you block User:Hatto again as "Misunderstanding. Restoring block, with Hatto0467 unblocked"? You unblocked User:Hatto once with "Misunderstanding. Unblocking and re-blocking Hatto0467", which is correct! I am not going to switch to User:Hatto0467 again, so it is User:Hatto you should unblock. I am not a native speaker of English and I may have misled you, so I ask you to do the following so as not to misunderstand you.
 * User:Hatto → unblocking
 * User:Hatto0467 → re-blocking
 * --Hatto (talk) 23:44, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I do not understand what you want. I have unblocked this account and you told me it was wrong. I blocked this account and you tell me it's wrong. So I have left this for soemone else who understands what you want. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:21, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I am really sorry as I think I have misled you as well. In the meantime, I would ask you to "unblock User:Hatto" first, in case you misunderstand me again. --Hatto (talk) 22:40, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I am really, really sorry. I think I have confused you a lot. Please "unblock User:Hatto" first so that this kind of confusion will not happen again. You do not need to do anything else. --Hatto (talk) 11:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

I have pasted the unblock template as shown below. I have been asking you to unblock User:Hatto and re-block User:Hatto0467 since August 16. I hope that User:Hatto will be unblocked as soon as possible, either by Barkeep49 or Doug Weller. When will you unblock User:Hatto and re-block User:Hatto0467? --Hatto (talk) 10:52, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for unblocking and helping me so much!! And I understood that you, Barkeep49 and Doug Weller do not have the authority to unblock my Hatto's account in the Italian Wikipedia. By the way, I sent a message to Vituzzu at it:Discussioni utente:Hatto regarding unblocking Italian Hatto's account, but he/she probably ignored me or forgot to reply to me. Therefore, I am looking for administrators who can unblock my account in the Italian Wikipedia apart from Vituzzu. How can I do so? In the meantime, my idea is to call for any administrator who can unblock my account on it:Discussioni Wikipedia:Amministratori. Or do you think another way is better? --Hatto (talk) 14:04, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

 * I am not familiar with the way things work over at the Italian Wikipedia so I am unable to advise on the best way to proceed, sorry. DanCherek (talk) 14:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hello Hatto, The "Creator" of File:20181013_이달의_소녀_음악중심_미니_팬미팅_(7).jpg is F28star (see "source" section of the file description page), not me but I just uploaded the file to Wikimedia Commons. Thanks! Puramyun31 (talk) 00:48, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your message! By the way, I posted this to you in May 2021. Could you review these pictures if you don't have problem?

--Hatto (talk) 01:54, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * commons:File:Chuu in Show! Music Core on November 14, 2020.png
 * commons:File:Chuu from Loona.png
 * commons:File:Heart hand gesture by Chuu.png

RE:about In My Darkest Hour by Megadeth
Sorry I took so long to help edit the draft for "In My Darkest Hour". I knew that the quotes from Penelope Spheeris existed, but I didn't have time to do anything before work. Don't move it into an article space yet. The Allmusic reference no longer shows what it's supposed to, so it needs to be replaced and I'm sure I can find some more things to expand before that. I can understand you just fine when you use DeepL. That's the translation app I use as well. Also, if you ever want me to help expand an article, just let me know. yawaraey (talk) 01:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is anything else to add to it. I would have someone look it over before publishing it, but I think it should be good enough to publish. yawaraey (talk) 05:18, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I once asked a user named Nkon21 if he could move the draft articles of Nemophila and Band-Maiko to mainspace, and he did indeed move them to mainspace. I'm also going to ask him about this "In My Darkest Hour" draft article and see if he can move it to mainspace, is that okay? --Hatto (talk) 14:09, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That should be fine. yawaraey (talk) 17:04, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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Oricon Single charts vs Combined Singles
Hi @Hatto,

after a user deleted the Oricon ranking in the English-languaged article of the Yoasobi song Idol due to it being part of Oricon Combined Singles (which also counts digital downloads and music streaming as well), I opened a thread in German-languaged Redaktion:Musik asking if it still useful to use the current Single Charts as they do just count physical sales only. The CD sales charts have a separated archive (Link) while the Combined Singles do not (link). I am contacting you to ask if you have knowlegde about this issue or if you know someone more or lessly involved with the domestic music industry who can help us out to clear the question.

The Combined Single charts were introduced in 2017 or 2018 and the Total Albums were introduced around the same time. Problem is: The Oricon Charts starts at 2020, so years of 2018 and 2019 is not accessable anymore. --Goroth (talk) 20:02, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: The deletion was reverted with comment: Sadly, Oricon Singles Chart is still the main chart even though it counts only physical sales.

Hi! I'm sorry, but I also feel that Japanese music charts such as Oricon have become quite complicated now, and sometimes I am not sure which Oricon information to use as a reference when editing articles, which is a problem for me to be honest. As for the Idol article, I don't know how to edit it either. Is my answer OK? --Hatto (talk) 03:43, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

 * @Hatto thank you for your swift reply. I was just asking if you have some insight of Japanese music industry or if you know somebody who has some inside views of the industry in order to help us regarding this matter. It was not a request regarding the Idol article but a question for overall usage of Combined Single charts in the List of Number-one hits in Japan articles starting 2018. And yes, it seems that the Japanese music charts are very complicated to understand. --Goroth (talk) 05:48, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm a music fan from Japan but I have only a few insight of Japanese music industry and I don't know anybody who has some inside views of the industry. I'm so sorry! --Hatto (talk) 06:09, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you anyways for your answers. --Goroth (talk) 06:36, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Special:Permalink
Hi Hatto. I appreciate your linking of the related discussion in your edit summary on List of kawaii metal musical groups. I hope you won't mind if I suggest a change to type of link you use in these cases. Since page history edit summaries are locked down upon submission, but talk pages are frequently cleared/archived, any link in the summaries, to sections in talk pages, may become effectively dead. We can use the PERMALINK feature to avoid this problem. Once you're used to it, it's a simple procedure. Please ask if you're confused by this message; I only want to help :)  16:51, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

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Creepy Nuts
Hi @Hatto, I have seen that you have added categories for a redirection page. The reason I am reaching out to you is to ask if you are able to translate the Japanese Wikipedia article about the hip-hop duo Creepy Nuts into English and publish it on English-languaged Wikipedia replacing the redirection. Kindest regards --Goroth (talk) 18:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

 * Sorry for the delay in replying. I'm not a fan of Creepy Nuts, but I've known them since probably 2020 or 2021. I was surprised to see their Japanese Wikipedia article, which is moderately detailed. However, as mentioned above, I'm not a fan of them, so I'm not confident that I could successfully create an English Wikipedia article about them. Besides, being Japanese, I'm not very good at English. (LOL) However, I don't think it's a problem that their article exists on the English Wikipedia, so I'll try my best to edit their English article when I have time. If you don't mind, can you help me edit my English article about them as well? --Hatto (talk) 16:35, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Hatto, thank you very much for your reply. Well, I think their music is good to me. I was wondering why there is an article about their song Bling-Bang-Bang-Born while the artist is only a redirect to that article. I would do a proof reading of the article if you are fine with it (even so, I am not a native English speaker as I am German). I took Japanese lessons last year but the follow-up class was cancelled due to not reaching the minimum amount of participants, so my skills are very low (I am not really able to read kanji, katakana only some hiragana). --Goroth (talk) 16:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I edited German Creepy Nuts article, but I don't understand German, so I edited it using DeepL Translator. Maybe there is a mistake in my editing, what do you think? --Hatto (talk) 04:07, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I did proof reading and I corrected some parts of the section. :-) Goroth (talk) 06:48, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Translations
Hi there. I found you from your contributions to the article One More Time, One More Chance, which I happened to edit. As your user page states, you seem to be a native speaker of Japanese. If you have time, would you please be able to provide your input regarding the literal translation at Talk:Frieren? Thank you. ／talk 15:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

 * I'm so sorry, I won't be participating in the Frieren's talk page you told me about because I'm not familiar with anime or manga. --Hatto (talk) 15:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand, but you do not need to be familiar with the frieren anime or manga to interpret it; in fact, it is even better as you would be able to provide an unbiased translation. So, potentially, how would you read "葬送のフリーレン"？／talk 17:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know anything about this manga series either, but does that mean you want the literal translation of "葬送のフリーレン"? --Hatto (talk) 03:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes. ／talk 05:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm a native Japanese speaker, but the word "葬送" (sōsō) is rarely used even in Japanese, so I also looked up its English translation. Apparently, the English translation of "葬送" is "funeral," so I think that "Frieren of the funeral" is correct.
 * See also
 * https://outputenglish.com/english-title-of-frieren-beyond-journeys-end --Hatto (talk) 06:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Exactly, that is how the services such as Google translate it, but standalone "葬" is "funeral / bury" and "送" is "to send / escort"; so wouldn't they here as a word together mean "attending a funeral"? and with "のフリーレン" would mean "frieren attending or observing the funeral" or better "frieren at the funeral".
 * Thank you for the link to the website, but I am not sure how reliable that is. The author of the article appears to be using machine translation and also states it is an arbitary translation. ／talk 09:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not really familiar with anime or manga, and I'm not that good at speaking English, so there are a lot of things I don't understand unless I look up the meaning of English words. I think you should ask someone who speaks English better than me. --Hatto (talk) 15:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand. Anyhow, thank you for conversing until now. ／talk 01:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Wind tunnel

Cleanup
This article has no flow and it lacks details on some subjects while providing too much detail on others. The text needs to be broken up into smaller categories and I would love to see more information and pictures on the different types of wind tunnels. Willy Logan 17:41, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Restructure
I intend to put some time into this article over the next few weeks to help bring it up to standards. My background is in Aeronautical Engineering, and specifically in wind tunnel experimentation. I am not, however, a particularly good writer or editor so any help will be appreciated. I have a few thoughts on the existing sections, and how to better organize the article.

Intro Beef it up to provide more accurate/current measurement techniques and gear the section to serve as a roadmap for the article.

History There is a lot of uncited material in here. In addition, a lot of the material is actually off topic. While the research of Benjamin Robins and his whirling arm is interesting, it is not stricly speaking a wind tunnel. It is a testing technique that predates wind tunnels, and is worthy of mention, but perhaps we can create a more suitable topic. Also, this section is sprinkled with asertations that are the author's opinion, and as such should be removed. This sections also mentions a myrad of other aerospace topics (CFD, Boundary Layers, Human Free Fall) that should be linked to or discussed in a seperate section.

How it works Expand and add supporting graphics.

Wind Tunnel classification The present info describes the speed regiems that wind tunnels simulate, not the classification or configuration of the wind tunnels them selfs. This may be a good subtobic for How it works. Wind tunnels can also be classified in terms of how they operate (open or closed circuit, blow or suck, moving walls, etc) or what they simulate (aerodynamic, atmospheric boundary layer...). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.73.8.70 (talk) 12:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Well known wind tunnels around the world This section is dangerously looking like a place where people can link to bolster their own work/prestiege. "Well known" is a very subjective term, and as such we should avoid using it. We may consider making a list of largest/fastest/first/etc, or consider deleting the topic all together

See also Expand

References Yea ... we'll need these

External Links This should likely be links to sites about wind tunnel testing, theory, and history. We should avoid linking to specific tunnels because a) there are far too many of them, and b) it would serve to bias the article to specific facilities and researchers

Other Thoughts The way I see it, this page fits in a larger category of Aerodynamic testing along with Flight testing, Test development, and CFD. Please respond with suggestions as I plan on editing next week. Jeff220 23:21, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Good plan. There is no aerodynamic testing article, but I think there ought to be. The various topics currently on this article that are unrelated to wind tunnels can go under aerodynamic testing. I agree that this article should be limited to wind tunnel subjects specifically.

 * I agree that there should be an aerodynamic testing article.  There is currently a section on CFD in this article.  Why not a section that talks about aerodynamic testing in the field.   Our company, Alphamantis Technologies (http://alphamantis.com), applies telemetry data to the calculation of drag area for bicycles.  Obviously, there is a conflict of interest here because I work for Alphamantis, but this kind of testing should be covered, IMO.  Andy Froncioni (talk) 15:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

 * I don't think that Well-known wind tunnels around the world is necessary.

 * A section explaining the different types of wind tunnels (subsonic, supersonic, spin tunnels, etc.) would be useful.

 * Good luck making these edits. Willy Logan 17:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I think this article could also benefit from a section on common errors in wind tunnel testing. To be truly useful to anyone it needs to link to an article on model properties and how they relate. I hope to do a fair amount of CFD analysis and wind tunnel testing in the near future so I will do my best to contribute. Mattbondy (talk) 03:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Edits
The first edit is complete, which involved removing the "Well known" section. In case anyone still wants to know what was on that list, I've placed it below. Jeff220 12:29, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Well known wind tunnels around the world
 * Photo and remarks by Wilbur Wright on the replica he built of the Wright Brothers wind tunnel.
 * NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA, USA — The largest wind tunnel in the world.
 * NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA, USA.
 * The Boundary Layer Wind Tunnel Laboratory at the University of Western Ontario, London Canada
 * CPP, Inc.'s boundary layer wind tunnels for buildings and structures, Fort Collins, CO, USA.
 * Rowan Williams Davies and Irwin (RWDI)'s boundary layer wind tunnels
 * Japan Association for wind engineering
 * Arnold Engineering Development Center, Tullahoma, Tennessee
 * MIRA Ltd, Full-Scale Automotive Wind Tunnel, Nuneaton, UK.
 * FKFS, Forschungsinstitut für Kraftfahrwesen und Fahrzeugmotoren Stuttgart

There are more than just planes.
I think that there should be all types of drag on planes. But I also think that there should be somthing about the drag effect on cars and trucks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.55.62.218 (talk) 21:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC).

Also there should be a separate section on atmospheric boundary layer wind tunnels, which are currently randomly discussed in the history section.--193.82.249.132 14:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

The parachutes for various Mars rovers were tested in the 80x120 section of NFAC at Moffett Field. Back around 2002, I was told by a senior experimental aerodynamicist that parachute deployment was something that could not be handled by CFD software. As examples, I found the following links related to Mars rover parachute tests. RocketSci (talk) 18:58, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Mars Exploration Rovers - MER parachute tests in 2002-2003; see section titled "Parachute Wind Tunnel Tests"
 * Parachute Deceleration System Testing - test for Curiosity
 * Wind Tunnel Testing Perseverance's Parachute - test for Perservence; image and caption only

List of Wind Tunnels
There are a lot of wind tunnels around. If we think a list is appropriate, we should start it as a separate article. I've suggested a few operating characteristics in the table format below.

Does anyone think this is worth doing? And if so, what characteristics do you think are needed?

ComputerGeezer (talk) 01:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Interesting thought. Adding NFAC at NASA Ames. (Note correct city.) --RocketSci (talk) 14:07, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

This site is about wind tunnels, not about the question of the first succesful heavier-than-air flight!
"Sir George Cayley (1773-1857), the father of aerodynamics"

Ok ... thought this title is generally attributed to Ludwig Prandtl

I deleted this, because here's not the place to discuss this issue.

"Armed with test data from the arm, Cayley built a small glider that is believed to have been the first successful heavier-than-air vehicle to carry a man in history."

Yes, I know. Englishmen have invented everything! ("believed to have" .. did he or did he not? Any proofs, which could validate this?)

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Talk:Jigsaw (power tool)

Untitled
--Erlyrisa 05:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC) has decided to remove association of Jigsaw to Sabre saw - I really belive they are entirely different, even though common branding dictates otherwise. (in the US)

Untitled
Picture, needed of non-powered jigsaw, and a Sabre Saw.

Sabre saw should really have own description. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Erlyrisa (talk • contribs).
 * If the template is inserted into the appropriate talk page, the request for a photo gains a wider audience and the odds of success improve somewhat, although the Wikiproject Woodworking tends to look after its own and respond appropriately. Now there's challenge. :-) — Graibeard(talk) 09:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Jigsaw
Should this article (the power tool) be the main article when "jigsaw" is typed in? Isn't the jigsaw puzzle the item that first comes to mind? Having the search go to a product seems like shameful advertising. Kwyjibear 23:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I would expect that the main article for "jigsaw" would be the actual jigsaw, whereas a "jigsaw puzzle" should be listed under that name. Having the name of an object go to an article about it is hardly advertising, but the tone of the article had room for improvement.  As it is, "jigsaw" currently goes to a disambig page. chrylis (talk) 11:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I think that jesse schulze is very good at jigsaw puzzles and he is also a very good friend of mine —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.36.39.2 (talk) 14:33, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

 * The device in this article is not a Jigsaw. If you follow the links in the article, it will take you to the first Jigsaw made from a sewing machine.  A Jigsaw has a table.  A Scroll Saw is a form of Jigsaw.  The article ought to be renamed Sabre Saw.  A new article should be written for the Jigsaw/Scroll Saw.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhawo66 (talk • contribs) 05:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Please find a reference to support that definition, as I haven't heard it. Also note that practical usage of the word includes the tool pictured in the article. Wizard191 (talk) 23:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Bosch production information
I'm sorry I don't think this is pertinent to the history of the jigsaw. It feel much more like advertisement than history. As such I would like it removed. Wizard191 (talk) 19:03, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

the pictured hand power tool is a sabre saw. a jig saw is a stationary reciprocating power tool, in which the blade is gripped on both ends. Hobhead (talk) 22:39, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No its not. --95.88.156.189 (talk) 16:14, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hobhead is partly correct. a jigsaw was originally a stationary machine with a reciprocating blade gripped at both ends, and the term is found back as far as the 1880s, contrary to what the article says. the terms "scroll saw" and jigsaw were used interchangeably to refer to the same machine, though today, scroll saw is used almost exclusively. the portable hand tool pictured here, when first introduced in the early 1950s, was called both a "saber saw" and a "jigsaw" depending on the company making it. This confusion of terms continued for decades; even in the late 1970s, articles appeared which recognized that both a scroll saw and a saber saw are on occasion referred to as a "jigsaw". If you do a search of products made today, however, you will find the vast majority of portable hand held tools are now called jigsaws, with a very small minority still being called saber saws. "Saber saw" is now used to refer to other types of reciprocating saws, such as the demolition tool made famous by the Sawzall brand, or other reciprocating saws with horizontal blades.

This article, as well as the article on saber saw and scroll saw, should reflect this information. I'm currently trying to pull together the best sources.Eqqman (talk) 13:17, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

 * I think Eggman has this correct - modern usage of Jigsaw refers to the power tool and I agree with the distinction with Sabre Saw (which is correctly identified in its own article). Perhaps the separate article on the puzzle should be reference that they derived their name because they were cut using a Jigsaw? and and DTOnline (talk) 15:37, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the history of the jigsaw/saber saw (I'm going to suggest it there as well): Fein Stichsäge 1933 I'm not sure how to categorize it, but I think it predates the tools on both pages...Dahauns (talk) 09:53, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

External Link Suggestion
Hi, I aint been on for a while but been doing a little research into jigsaw blades and found a good amount of information at http://www.fix8.co.uk/products/Power+Tool+Accessories/Bosch+Jigsaw+Blades so I thought it would be nice to add it to the external links.

if anyone has any problem with this please feel free to edit or remove the link, I just found it of value to help me workout which type of blade I needed so I thought it may be of value to others reading the article too. GSL-Nathan (talk) 14:31, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Merge Jigsaw (tool) proposal
Cfork and duplicate. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:18, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Support - Seems unneccessary to have both. ~ Ablaze (talk) 09:12, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Support - They are two articles about the exact same thing. 0albannabla0 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:59, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Culture of the Ottoman Empire

Headings
Why all these new headings containing nothing but a stub-mark? It doesn't really make the article look better. /The Phoenix 18:58, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Persian and Arab
Added Persian and Arab cultures.Khosrow II 23:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

 * The Ottoman Empire was more culturally Iranian and Arabic than anything else! The religious language of the empire was Arabic, and the cultural language was Persian. The script of the Ottomans was Arabic, and ofcourse, the religion was Islam. The Ottoman sultans wrote their poems in Persian. The overwhelming majority of the words in the Ottoman Turkish language consisted Arabic and Persian words. Today, no Turk can pick up an Ottoman text and read it without knowing the Arabic script, the Arabic language, and the Persian language. The historical revisionism has to end, you cannot change history just so you can feel more "European".Khosrow II 17:25, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

 * It's main problem is "Persian for culture language" thought, It's totaly wrong, Arabic script used because of Islam and Quran, Persian used as literature and science language. Ottoman empire was theocratic Islamic state and these two languages were very important for all Islamic world. You can see many of Persian and Arabic words in Malay language, Indonesian too today. Turkish taken more words than other langauges from Farsi because of geographically status. As I said, I'm not nationalist, not Pan-Turkist, even I think using "European" for modern peoples is very incorrect. I'm Atheist but first of all I'm humanist, all people and all nations are respectable for me. Meantime my user name isn't ZaparoDJik :)Zaparojdik 21:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Then you have no reason to take out the fact that the Ottoman Empire was full of Arabic and Persian culture.Khosrow II 18:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

 * That's ridiculous. Ottoman has never been a mixture of Arab and Farsi culture, you use "fully". There were some relationship between Ottoman Turks and Arabs & Persians because of religion All Islamic world was relationship between Arabs and Persians, like Ocenian country Indonesia. You live in dreamland with your pan-Iranist friends but we won't let you put POV edits here. There were about 48 nations in Ottoman. Their culture was, Islamic culture under Turkish traditions. Zaparojdik 22:33, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Can you read Ottoman Turkish? No. Let history decide what is fact and what is fiction, not your POV.Khosrow II 19:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm mostly understand Ottoman Turkish but can't use as well as I understand, politic language of Turkish is very near to Ottoman Turkish. Zaparojdik 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Intro
Look, nobody is denying Persian influence, but you have to understand that this refers to the culture of the Ottoman Empire and not the culture of ottoman court.. Half the empire were non-muslims, so I fail to see why we cant include Byzantine culture? My current edit avoids this list and narrows down everything to two categories that all of them fall under: Byzantine and Islamic.. Persian culture was one of the main cultures of Islamic culture.. I really dont understand how some people find this offensive, seriously guys, I am trying to find a middle way so that there wont be revert wars. Feel free to tell me why you think that the current edit is not correct.. Baristarim 11:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

 * What exactly is "Byzantine culture"?--Tekleni 11:08, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * cultures of the/that lived under the Byzantine Empire: Greek, Roman, Armenian, Jewish etc.. Baristarim 11:13, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. There was no really significant number of Armenians in the Byzantine Empire, when it (i.e. Constantinople) fell to the Turks, and Byzantine omits the Balkan Slavs (i.e. Bulgarians). I think using Byzantine as a blanket term for all non-Muslim people in the Ottoman Empire is a mistake.--Tekleni 11:25, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I can see your point, but I dont understand where the Balkan Slav culture comes into play.. This is the first time I am hearing of Bulgarian influence.. We should mention the two-three major ones.. Armenians didn't have a major impact, not like Persian, Byzantine or Arabic in any case.. I mean Jewish culture had more influence than the Balkans or Bulgarians: even in modern Turkish of today, the words used to refer to four out of the twelve months come directly from Hebrew.. I mean, is the influence of bulgarian culture as great as the others? So Byzantine, referring a particular type of Greek culture (Greek+Roman+Christian of that era) covers extremely accurately that culture, and Islamic culture covers both Arabic and Persian.. All I am saying is that, if we start listing, that could be a slippery slope.. Baristarim 11:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Whatever, however, I do think that Jewish should be listed separately (I think there were more Jews in Muslim lands, where they faced less persecution than in Christian lands).--Tekleni 12:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Could be.. I will have to see how that can be done, the intro seems ok for now, I will try to see if it could be phrased differently.. Baristarim 19:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

A step back
Just a sincere question: why is everyone spending so much time quibbling over one sentence in the introduction section rather than making an effort on the rest of the article, which currently contains next to nothing? One would think that people's energies would be better concentrated there. —Saposcat 11:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Is this the first time you are running into a similar dispute? :))) Baristarim 11:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

 * :) Not at all, of course. But I am as completely baffled by this kind of dispute every time I see it arise as I was the first time I ever saw it. So it goes. —Saposcat 12:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

 * there are close to 200,000 manuscripts and letters in Persian from the Ottoman empire that have not yet been even catalogued. I think if one does a fair comparison, probably the amount of Turkish work is less than the amount of Persian and Arabic work till the 18th century.  But perhaps it is sufficient to mention that the term Turk in the Ottoman era was considered an insult and only after Ataturk came to power, it took a different meaning.  The Ottomans themselves thus did not consider themselves Turk, but their primary identity was Ottoman and the primary language was Ottoman Turkish which is incomprehensible for Turks of today due to its large Arabic and Persian vocabulary.  So the Persian and Arabic influence should be mentioned.  --alidoostzadeh 20:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree, actually. But I still think efforts would be better spent on actually making the article itself actually worth reading (which it currently isn't) than on using the introduction as a battleground of ideas. (We would also do well not to make unequivocal claims that "the term 'Turk' in the Ottoman era was considered an insult", and remember that, in poetry at least, there were—albeit only on occasion—movements like the 16th-century تركى بسيط (Türkî-i Basîṭ) and poets like نديم (Nedîm), who pursued to differing extents a more "Turkish" agenda ... with admittedly little success). Cheers. —Saposcat 21:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Ali, I think you are failing to see the diff between ottoman court and ottoman empire.. Half the population of the empire was non-muslim. As I said above, even in modern Turkish of today, the words used to refer to four out of the twelve months come directly from Hebrew.. So please remember that as well.. I never said that there was no Persian influence, so please contextualise, the older version ended up simply as a list. I tried to put them into two categories, Byzantine and Islamic, that cover all that was mentioned.. Just because a country's name wasn't mentioned, there is no reason to get in arms up about it; no Greek has yet complained as to why I replaced Greek with Byzantine, in the same way I fail to understand why the replacement of Arabic and Persian with Islamic is causing such a fuss.. Why do u think that was wrong? Baristarim 23:58, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

 * It is true that the court and empire are not the same but you are forgetting the fact the court has a great influence on the culture of the whole empire. Also it was not just the court which supported Arabic and Persian languages.  For example there was several Sufi orders like Naghshbandi, Qadiri, Mowlaviyah and etc. who had tremendous influence on the cultural life plus the Bektashti order for example which celebrates Nowruz.  If I recall, I read somewhere the majority of traditional music instruments in Turkish have Persian and then Arabic names and also many of the Muqam's as well.  I think the Ottoman empire was a good example of a multi-ethnic empire, but its prevalent Islamic culture was influenced greatly by Arabic and Persian traditions.  In other words, it seems that during the Ottoman empire,  Arabic and Turkish and Persian were not seen as foreign to each other but part of a coherent Islamic culture. I think the current version is fine. --alidoostzadeh 19:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Editing
The jewelry section in particular needs a good edit. I started, but then realized it would need to be rephrased. Seeing as I know almost nothing about the topic, could someone knowledgeable edit it? Karm Locke 02:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

upside down image!
The Turkish wrestling image is upside-down... --Ling.Nut 17:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Food
It would be nice if someone could tie the food preferences of the region, Greek, Jewish, Arab, Turkish and probably Balkan, into one neat package. Current food section has no words, just a short list. Even if the Ottomans weren't responsible for "inventing" the food, they seem to be responsible for spreading it around to most of the Eastern Mediterranean. Tabouli, hummus, etc. Be nice to have a separate article. Student7 (talk) 01:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

"Strong" adjectives
A couple of editors are warring over the use of "strong" adjectives. The problem here is the use of WP:PEACOCK terms. The article is supposed to be supporting "strong" or "weak" or whatever. Saying it is irrelevant and not credible. Please stop using adjective or superlatives unless they can't be avoided. At best, they sound WP:POV. I think one or both of you may be approaching WP:3RR. That is not good either. Student7 (talk) 01:39, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The adjective is directly from the cited source, so this is not an issue of WP:POV. The influence or influences in question, were comparatively stronger than the other influences, this is the academic view, and cited. --Kurdo777 (talk) 13:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Were not Iranian and Arabic influence much stronger that what the article say? For example the sentence "As with many Ottoman Turkish artforms, the poetry produced for the Ottoman court circle had a strong influence from classical Persian traditions" seems strange, because the poetry in Ottoman lands were "solely" Persian and Arabic as far as "high praise" was concerned. Xashaiar (talk) 13:45, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What source, Kurdo? Could you cite that in-line please? Student7 (talk) 14:07, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Huh!? Where's the culture!?
A culture, i.e. a way of living associated to a certain civilization, have certain outward signals used to identify the culture for insiders and outsiders. The article seems to treat those outward signals only, not the culture in itself. I would prefer a description of institutions, most specifically classes and subclasses within the Ottoman civilization, the working life, the attitudes and ways of thinking within that empire, and the outward signals as decoration to support and specify the contents of the article. Rursus dixit. ( m bork3 !) 11:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

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Maybe it is time to change the primary image?
Is there a way we can change the primary image of the Ottoman pages? At least some of them? There can be nothing worse than a colorful vector remake of the coat of arms on white/transparent to represent a historical EMPIRE. And it is the default image in most of the hover boxes when you rollover a link, from Ottoman music, to cuisine, to everything... The vector Turkish flag is also not much different. It only hurts the eye and looks cheap. I think the rollover boxes are used more than the pages itself. So, the primary image must be something distinctive to the subject. It helps people get the idea while reading the summary there. The vector coat of arms only adds a cartoon effect. (Sorry if the designer of the image sees this. It is definitely not bad as an artwork, it is just too artificial for the context. And it should be displayed in pages especially about the coat of arms etc) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alasiyan (talk • contribs) 16:03, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Scroll saw

curves with edges
I'm afraid I don't know what this means. Why don't the curves made by other types of saws have "edges"? Cjrother 02:13, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

 * @Cjrother Attempted to clarify in revision . My interpretation was that the intent was to describe the ability to cut angled edges and a word was missed or something like that. JJbloon (talk) 08:39, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Request for more paragraphs
Someone added a request for paragraphs on the following subjects be added to this article:

 * Intarsia,
 * Fretwork,
 * Compound cutting,
 * 3-D cutting,
 * Large Fretwork Clocks,
 * Marquetry and Inlay and
 * Antique Scroll Saws
 * Lathart

I removed it as it wasn't appropriate. —/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 09:38, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Links like Intarsia, Fretwork, 3-D cutting, etc are primary project type that are widely discussed and are elements commonly associated with this topic. They are absolutely relevant. If a user is looking for info on scroll saw, like for example, what are the typical applications, then the exclusion of these elements does the reader a great injustice. If there is content in the history that gives a brief description of these elements and a link to the full article, then that content needs to be restored.

Gloden (talk)` —Preceding undated comment added 20:17, 20 March 2010 (UTC).

Tagged for tone
I've placed the tone template on this article as it doesn't read as an encyclopaedic article should. A lot of it resembles a buyer's guide offering specific recommendations and in other places it directly addresses the reader (you, you're etc), which is a style specifically recommended against. I may come back in a few days and clean it up but I'm tagging it now pending any comments since that will inevitably mean the removal of some content. CrispMuncher (talk) 15:24, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Well I've belatedly gone ahead and refactored the article. There were many comments that I simply removed because they were advisory in nature or inherently opinion.  I also removed a fair chunk on intarsia since it didn't seem very appropriate here - that belongs in the page on intarsia.  In any case, it apears to be that mosty of the comments made could eaulally have been applied to marquetry. CrispMuncher (talk) 22:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Tone seems pretty good at this point - this discussion topic could probably be archived. NillaGoon (talk) 22:03, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Links Core to Scroll Community
There has been some assertion that http://www.scrollsawer.com/ should not be included as part of this article, even though it is generally recognized as a primary hub in the scroll saw community. The site is operated by Fox Chapel Publishing, but the site and incredible respository of information is free for all. Other than some banner adds and such, this site hosts forums on the range of project types and interests. The sites' focus is not commercial and thus the link between the sponsoring publishing company and the actual function of the site is thin at best.

The reasonable assumption of a user accessing this site to gain information about "Scroll Sawing" would be to get a good overview of the tool type and, in the case of crafts that have a huge community focus and support mechanism, a link to those locations is consistent with the article goals. Worse yet, the links that remain are not reflective to the community involvement as a whole.

Ultimately, we should be looking to strengthen the article and yet, after a considerable amount of time, the article remains minimalist and sterile. Are we going for little more than a definition? The current article does not represent the diversness and breadth of the craft nor give the user any meaningful depth into the topic. The "guidelines" should be applied with "Common Sense." Part of that responsibility is to "inform" the user of critical elements of the topic, including the community aspects of the topic.

Gloden (talk) 19:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * See WP:ELNO points 10, 11 and 14 for starters. Blogs, forums, personal sites, and 'community sites' should not be linked. Links are not considered to 'strengthen' the article, as Wikipedia is not intended to be a directory of links. Perhaps you should consider submitting these to the Open Directory Project instead. - MrOllie (talk) 21:40, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Agree with MrOllie. Wikipedia is not a portal for finding anything on the net - it is an encyclopaedia.  External links are only included where they add something of substance to the encylcopeadic article.  Community sites, reselelrs nature to th further background.  I suggest reading the policy on external links like you have repeatedly been referred to.  In particular, no forums are acceptable.  Comercial sites are permissable provided they contain solid and pertinent information and are not merely sales vehicles.  General sites also have problems with the scope and whether it is a good match for the article - remember - this article is about scrollsaws.  It is not about workworking using scrollsaws.

 * There is also strong evidence to suggest a conflict of interest (as I outlined on WP:ANI) here which no one in the community likes. Repeatedly adding sites with which you are involved is a good way of getting them blacklisted so that Xlinkbot and friends will revert those additions on sight. Finally, you are clearly in breach of the three revert rule so I have added another warnig nto that effect on your talk page.  CrispMuncher (talk) 22:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

First of all, SAW site, which you have allowed, also has forums and has some level of funding, right? And I notice this is on of the few links from Intarsia? And participating in a community and adding links to the host site is different than if I worked a Chapel Hill Publishing. That was the intent of the principle, right? And the quick threats to blacklist are blantant disregard for the principle of "Wikipedia:Dispute resolution - Discuss with the other Party." Interesting that didn't come up until I engaged (and quit reverting) Thats point to vindictivness which the community also say they dislike. Please note, that the article has not been reverted since I understood what was going wrong, yet you continued to escalate. That, my friend, is a problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gloden (talk • contribs) 06:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Brand section = SPAM
The way it is, that section is completely irrelevant: either state all brands, either this section must be removed as it is currently utterly "un-encyclopedic". IMHO, only those having brought major advancements could be stated in another section for that matter (like "History" or "technologies", whatever). --HawkFest (talk) 15:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

"When a fine blade is used, the kerf of a scroll saw is all but invisible."
This is a meaningless statement. Kerf either desperately matters or it does not (either the pieces need to be able to be fitted, which means kerf must be taken into account, no matter how small, or they don't need to be fitted, in which case the kerf is irrelevant). There's no such thing as "invisible kerf". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.73.36.168 (talk) 03:32, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

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STEP Library

STEP (Standard Template for Electronic Publishing) is a standard file format used to distribute Biblical software from various publishers. STEP was conceived in 1995 by Craig Rairdin of Parsons Technology and Jim VanDuzer of Loizeaux Brothers Publishers. Rairdin and VanDuzer formed a consortium of Biblical software publishers called the Bible Software Industry Standards Group (BSISG) to oversee the development of the STEP specification and to develop common tools to be used by developers and publishers interested in implementing STEP compatibility in their programs or publishing books in the STEP format.

The STEP logo was originally a trademark of Parsons Technology, Inc., now of FindEx, Inc., the current publisher of QuickVerse Bible Software.

Format specification
The files use Microsoft's Rich Text Format (RTF) with special STEP tags added.

While not fully open format, as was sometimes claimed, the specifications have been publicly released, enabling third parties to write their own tools to create, edit, or view STEP resources. There are restrictions on the use of the logo, and commercial use of the term "STEP Compatible". Findex distributed The STEP Publisher's Toolkit as part of their license. It is similar to The Libronix Digital Library, for users of Biblical software wanting integration of various reference works, using a common application to access and cross-reference various works from various publishers.

Bible study software
The following biblical software can read STEP files:
 * e-Sword;
 * QuickVerse 5.0 through 2009;
 * WORDsearch 4.0 and 5.0;

The following companies also issued resources in STEP format:
 * Ages Library from 1997 to 2000;
 * Bible Companion from 1995 to 2002;
 * Ephesians Four Group (current issuer);
 * Light By Design (current issuer);
 * NavPress from 1995 to 2003;
 * Certain of Zondervan's software titles 1995–2001, including their own STEP Reader (which was in fact a rebranded Quickverse Library) which ran independently of their own Reference Software suite;

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Quit India photos
These are taken by me only and not published any where so far. You can suggest what way to publish based on your wide experience.

--Dore chakravarty 19:19, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Mind
Hmm, interesting new talk page design! Anyways, the main reason I've been choosing around 22:00 UTC (plus/minus a few hours, of course) is that is the time I'm usually available to open the round. However, if it seems like most people are around on 5:30 UTC time, I could attempt to have it opened then. Perhaps a poll is in order? Anyways, good idea- I'll see what Deryck says, and then perhaps ask around and see what time most of the WP:MIND participants are logged on. For right now, though, I hope that the scoring changes Deryck implemented should keep it competitive. Good luck and have fun with the rest of the round! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 20:48, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Rename
I have now chosen a more appropriate username, and I'm sorry for my first choice of username. Will you please now rename me. The Fascist Chicken 21:27, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Request a comment
I'm sorry to bother you, but I would really like to see your comment about a proposal about a new namespace (see Gallery namespace). I'm sure it would be useful looking at your experience in Wikipedia. Thank you. CG 13:50, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Sure, I'll join wikiproject cricket. What does it entail? Do I get to bore all you young whippersnappers about how I was the first person to upload a schematic of all the fielding positions (it was rubbish)? (You know it's not really a cricket club without some doddering old timer telling you how much it was better in his day...) -- GWO 18:18, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Cool, how do I sign up. PS : You don't want to see my diagram.  The one you've got now is much better. GWO

 * Thank you for taking the time to invite me into the project. Unfortunately I am less able to devote time to Wikipedia thesedays and could not commit myself to anything. I wish you the best of luck with it.Regards,SimonMayer 22:25, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

RJS (yet again)
Just a note. Put RJS up for peer review yesterday. Tintin 19:33, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Quit India photos
How do I know when and where you are using these photos? A silly question of course by this .....man. Searcing some more of old photos from my album scanned and put on CD.

--Dore chakravarty 21:28, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Can send better pictures
I can send better pictures taken out from my CD instead of the web site photos I referred to you earlier. Please opine to which email address to send them or any other alternative? Can I upload these in my user name so that u can use them? Which is the safest method?

--Dore chakravarty 21:35, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

S.Parthasarathi_Ayyangar_ML,IP
This article is up on AfD - he's supposed to be the CoP of Madras. I was wondering if you might want to have a look at it. Articles_for_deletion/Log/2005_September_23 - Guettarda 02:24, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for letting me know. I usually don't visit AFD as the page size is too large for my connection. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  13:34, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

 * If it interests you I can keep a list of India-related AfD's (not that I get there every day, but I do try to check it out every few days). Guettarda 14:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I'll try to add to it then. Whatever I can do for the Mother Country ;) Guettarda 15:22, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Nepal
Nicholas, talk about a rush of people commenting on the article. I've tried to stop the 1920s royal pic, the only one on the left side, from covering the lower half of the text line above it. Unsuccessful. It would also be nice to shift one or two other pics to the left to avoid the long, continuous column of pics on the right. Tony 04:33, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

impressionist painting after 1921
Does anyone know which impressionist artist painted French Revolution aristrocrats leaving (during the Revolution) in boats. The painting is oil on every early masonite so would have been painted around 1922 maybe. The brush strokes are certainly impressionist and the colors are vivid. Purchased it in San Antonio, Texas where many service men brought works back from France. The subjects (people in boats) are certainly dressed in French costumes and they are in small boats (what type was used for escaping?). which artist works should I view to see similar paintings?. Thank You for any suggestions. my e-mail is ngailgarrett@yahoo.com

 * Sorry I wouldn't be knowin. You could try The Reference Desk. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  13:19, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Zones of Nepal
Hi Nichalp, I noticed that the Subdivisions section on Nepal article looks really nice and is very good, but the main article for that section, Zones of Nepal isn't so good and needs to be cleaned up. Maybe you can help out? Thanks. --Hottentot

Brookie Admin
Thanks for the note-it was rather stressful being voted on! ...en passant! 08:02, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. Its like being on probation. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  13:36, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Anthony de Mello
I'm not quite sure why you had to ask me about it, but this guy founded the BCCI, is that right? If that's the case I'd put him at Anthony de Mello (cricket administrator), then, with a dab page at Anthony de Mello. He'd be more famous for his administration than 11 first class matches with a HS of 15 and 17 wickets? Sam Vimes 18:18, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

 * As requested. Have fun with it - my article is heavily biased towards the cricketing side of things because I don't have any sources to write about the administrator-part. Sam Vimes 19:17, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Quit India photos
Thank you very much. Shall try shortly and let you know. Sorry, troubling you because I am new to Wiki and not an expert on computer. Better I upload original scaneed ones from my CD. Shall try in a few days as suggested.

--Dore chakravarty 19:40, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

category for Padma Bhushan awardees
Hi Nichalp, saw the above category created by you and categorised one of my articles under it. Then I realised that lot of people receive Padma Shri, then a Padma Bhushan and finally, a Padma Vibhushan if they are lucky. If I were to create separate categories for Padma Shri awardees and Padma Vibhushan awardees, a problem could be the surfeit of categories that can appear on an article. A way out would be to have one category for these three awards under the title Padma awardees just like the Government of India calls it. The existing category can be made a redirect, if required (It may not be required as there are only two articles under it). If you are okay with the suggestion of "Padma awardees" category replacing the current category, pl. let me know so that I can create the category and tag articles accordingly. (By my reckoning, there would be 150+ articles that need to be categorised under the Padma awardees.) --Gurubrahma 00:58, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Your bot
First off, I need to know a little more of where you are placing the text. Secondly, I need to know a little more about the contents of the .csv file. Thirdly, as it currently stands, it will take all your .csv info, put it into the format you asked, and place it on your user sandbox. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:23, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Quit India Photos-uploaded
Uploaded QUITIN1,QUITIN2,QUITIN5 and QUITIN7-4 photos and now in Image list of QUIT INDIA I see only QUITIN7. Why others are not showing, not clear to me. Uploaded using Wikimedia commonplace. Done for .For this in the defaut license only ver 2 is seen and not ver 2.5. Can you enlighten pl.

--Dore chakravarty 04:57, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Bangalore & EoI
I lost interest mid-way (after working a bit on the history section) and had even got it off my watchlist. :-( Anyways, I will try to work on it from today. BTW, have you seen this: http://dsal.uchicago.edu/reference/gazetteer/ ?

I don't like the software park image at Today's_featured_article/October_2%2C_2005 (since it is very ordinary) and would much rather prefer the BSE image. Can I just change it or should I discuss it somewhere? Pamri • Talk 07:35, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Quit India photos
Photos now uploaded in Wikimedia Commons (in which a new account of mine is created) and checked at Self published work and found all 4 photos. This place shows the License ver 2.5 also.Earlier I had done with Wikimedia Commonplace, which was not correct.Now anybody can show a link to these photos with information to me. Am I right? Thanks very much for your instructions. Next step: what is your advise for me to do in Wiki?

--222.153.85.90 10:03, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of Tamil people
I see heavy editing to Tamil people, but the overall diff seems at first sight to be for the better. I'm sure you and other editors would've had a hard time with vandalism attempts as this topic deals with ethnicity etc., Will answer the queries tomorrow as I've a lot of catching up to do with my other work. Also a minor fact FYI - I'm not the "original author" of this article, Vadakkan @ Arvind is and I just helped him. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 10:33, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

DYK
The Casino Goa article says "Those below 18 are not barred from entering." I'm wondering if there's a typo here as it sounds not quite right to me. Did you mean "Those below 18 are barred..."? --A bit iffy 12:08, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Fixed, it originally read Those below 18 are not allowed..., Thanks for pointing it out. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  12:10, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Signpost- RFB disabled
I'll put it in news and notes. And as far as your RFB, well, I guess I like you a lot, or I'm growing senlie in my old age. Either way... :)  Ral  315   WS  13:13, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks =Nichalp   «Talk»=  14:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Stealing
Go for it. :) --Celestianpower hablamé 13:40, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks =Nichalp   «Talk»=  14:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

OK, I'll update the DYKs in the India portal
I normally loathe at the thought of responsibility, but updating DYKs on India portal should be fun. I'll do it. Idleguy 13:48, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks =Nichalp   «Talk»=  14:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Chart available
I've done the chart for you. You can view it at Image:Nichalp-edits.png. I won't be placing it on my contributions subpage so please feel free to delete it whenever you're done with it or keep it if you want. All the best, --Durin 16:11, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Constitution of India
Hi,

I made some changes to the Constitution of India article. Any suggestions? Jisha C J 16:58, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The page has too much of a list. The United States Constitution is a Featured Article and is nicely done. It needs to be expanded further. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:09, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Agreed. But will require a lot of input and help.

Jisha C J 17:19, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I fully agree. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:29, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Journalist's RFA
I want to thank you very much for your vote on my RFA. Greatly apperciated, I owe you one! Jo urna list |  huh?

Re: Sysop Message

 * Sure...go ahead. Everything on here's free, right? ;) — Ilγαηερ   (Tαlκ)  22:32, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Quit India photos
Done as suggested with slight modification. Please check and let me know your opinion.Learning a lot. Very much indebted to you please.

--Dore chakravarty 23:57, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Bhutan
Yes, you got it right. Tamil doesn't have any alphabet corresponding to the sound "B". Some people say that these sounds don't occur in classical Tamil, whereas, some others say that these sounds are there in Tamil and the same letters are pronounced differently based on some rules.

And ya, I definitely owe you one for the two-day vigil. Waiting to see a Tamil stub from you. :-) -- Sundar \talk \contribs 03:53, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

 * How did you do that? Copy-paste? It looks good except that you left the last Unicode diacritic in each sentence. And we need to merge some content from another stub with a slightly different transliteration. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:47, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Happy to know your interwiki work. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 10:34, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

EoI request
Hi, I made some minor changes to the Economy of India's lead. Can these be reflected at Today's featured article/October 2, 2005. Thanks. -- Pamri • Talk 06:26, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't want the whole lead, but a few minor corrections. Anyways, I have made a request at Tomorrow's featured article. -- Pamri • Talk 07:28, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

World not travelled
(answered on my talk page but not sure if you'd be watching there so re-posting here)

Hi World-(not-travelled-to-India)-traveller! Any plans to visit India? I'm curious: what is the highest/lowest point you have been to, and the hottest/coldest temperatures you have experienced? Thanks =Nichalp   «Talk»=  08:28, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, one of the large gaps in my coverage of the world! Definitely plan to visit India one day, but South America, Mali and Ethiopia are currently ahead of it on my schedule.  There will be a total solar eclipse visible from northern India on 22 July 2009, that could certainly encourage me to get over there.
 * As for my highest/lowest etc, yes, I am enough of a travel obsessive to keep a track of things like that! . Should be going further south and also higher than ever before when I go to Patagonia in a few weeks time... Worldtraveller 11:44, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Graph
I have the sources for EoI graphs, but OO.o can't export text in the graphs, when it saves to SVG. After some experimentation, I managed to export Image:India-states-map-blank.svg to SVG using OO.o. Apparently, you have to save to an image, open it in OO.o draw & then save to SVG. Wierdly, I can't open this file in inkscape. Anyways, converting the images to SVG shouldn't be a problem, but I am not sure it is desirable to directly use it in the article, since not everyone would have installed the plugin or would have a browser that suppports svg. Most of the svg images are either linked from the article or were used to create SVG images. What do you think? -- Pamri • Talk 13:50, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

 * My bad, didn't realise mediawiki converts to png. I guess, converting to SVG wouldn't be so bad then. BTW, what do you use for charts,maps & svg?-- Pamri • Talk 16:23, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Re:Bot
In your example, based on the first line of: Changlang,Changlang,124994,4662,27,AR-CH

You basically want to create a new article that is called Changlang with the following wiki text to start off the article: Changlang is a district with a population of 124994 and an area of 4662 and. Changlang is the district headquarters.

Is that correct? And if the article exists, do you want it to simply tack your text to the beginning of the page? Or do you prefer it to skip it? --AllyUnion (talk) 15:56, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Quit India photos
Thanks for the suggestion. I have to think a lot before execution. Shall definitely do. Doubt! Quit India Movement is a category under History of India. Correct as shown? Confirmation essential please.

--222.153.110.150 18:14, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Quit India Movement
Sorry. I am meddling with your article, above metioned. Just now I saw it.

--222.153.110.150 19:31, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Mediation
Hello, Nichalp! Thanks for your support of my mediation committee nomination; I'm pleased to announce that I'm now an official mediator. Thanks once again. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 20:27, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Quit India Photos-uploaded
Done for all the other 3 photos. Pl check. In addition I got this also on photo 2. Why, not clear. Can you remove this?

'''There is 1 subcategory to this category. I

* Image:QUITIN2.JPG'''

--Dore chakravarty 21:18, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Q I photos
Already done and all showing at the bottom Quit India Movement. Shall try first in sandbox the uploading to other languages as suggested. Great! U are the author for Quit India Movement as I saw it now. Does it require editing to Wiki style? Can I help? Intend comminmg to India by Jan or so.Would be happy to meet you.

--222.153.110.150 05:13, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Q I photos
Frech I could see but not hindi, tamil etc. Secondly could see photos being added in French Quit India Movement. But how to add the text explaining the photos? It can be added in English. How to get it in Frech? Any method?

--Dore chakravarty 06:34, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Q I photos
The text comes in English only and not in French. Secondly all photos come at the end of text and on the right side.I can make txt come to the right of the exixting txt. Which one you would prefer as good? All photos editing lines given here for ur trial and pl do what you feel good.Let me know also. I have removed the end brackets to avoid photos coming in.

[[image:QUITIN2.JPG|thumb|250px| Procession view at Bangalore

[[image:QUITIN1.JPG|thumb|250px| Public lecture at Basavanagudi, Bangalore  with Late C.F.Andrews

[[image:QUITIN7.JPG|thumb|250px| Another Procession at Bangalore

[[image:QUITIN5.JPG|thumb|250px| Picketing in front of Medical School at     Bangalore

--Dore chakravarty 09:09, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Picture of the shoeshine boys in the railway station
Come on, Nichalp. I've done all the list of things that needed doing (within reason - a little stuck with finding non-commonwealth information) Where's the picture for the shoe polish article? You promised, grrrr :@

Seriously, though, if you could find the time to upload it, that would be awesome. Let me know on my talk page. Proto t c 09:12, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

 * It's fine, don't go out of your way to get it, just when you go past and happen to have your camera :) Proto t c 09:53, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

SVG R&D
Hi, I finally got my linux up & running & wierdly, inkscape works better here. It even renders the OO.o generated files perfectly. I generated Image:Nepal_map2.svg this using potrace, a commandline utility that inkscape uses internally. Image:Nepal map-inkscape.svg was traced (see http://www.inkscape.org/doc/tracing/tutorial-tracing.html - choose multiple scanning->color instead of the options listed above) with inkscap. I am yet to figure out how to resize it though. I was looking through pychart & it seems to generate some good graphs, is easy to use & exports to SVG. Pamri • Talk 09:47, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I have resized Image:Nepal_map-inkscape.svg, but the size still hasn't reduced. Maybe, it has to do something with the huge no. of nodes. I think, we need to use a plain bitmap to trace without the captions & then readd it in inkscape. I am more noobie than you in SVG, so am just guessing. BTW, does your DNS settings in /etc/resolv.conf point to your router/isp? Pamri • Talk 12:26, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

My Adminship
Thank you very much for letting me know that you found consensus to have been reached on my adminship. Please let me know when thedatabase problem or whatever other technical issue has been cleared. And please feel free to give me any pointers or guidance in my new role as an admin. DES (talk) 15:03, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the cello! Funny, I thought that Wikipedia only had one image of a cello, cropped from a string quartet shot. Guess I should head over to Commons more often... Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 19:21, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Q I photos
Added 2 more photos to Quit India Movement. Thanks for adding one photo to French version. But the description is still in English only. How to make it in French language? Then only I can try adding other photos. Suggestinons?

--Dore chakravarty 19:31, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

New OLD PHOTOS
Please see the old photos in this link, taken by me and not published any where.

http://yourindianancestors.photosite.com/Album5/Chapter1/

Late Dilip Singh Ji was an well cricketer and Maharaja of Bhavanagar. He was also High Commissioner for Australia under British rule, before merger.

Letter of CR during Congress session at Nasik when my father was in PWD, Bombay. He wanted Kodabale (south Indian dish) to eat. He visited our house and remarked ’’’This has been made for the occasion’’’ on seeing the new photos of Gandhiji  etc. brought at that time. This shows how shrewd he was. My father was a faithful British Govt. servant. and also a Free Mason (a Secret British Society) like Lions Club now.

You can see the photos and how they can be useful to Wiki projects.

Audio
is the way to do it ! Btw, what book are you relying on for Anthony De Mello ? Tintin 23:05, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Do you know who employs Shastri and the other commentators now ? I got some references from the net that Shastri worked for WorldTel (atleast until the early 2000s). Will have to phrase that section very ambigously so as not to make any mistakes. Tintin 23:22, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Inspired by Durin, I am trying to find the breakups of contributions on my own. Yours is like this :

 * 1821 September 2005
 * 1746 August 2005
 * 1593 July 2005
 * 1626 June 2005
 * 640 May 2005
 * 466 April 2005
 * 578 March 2005
 * 412 February 2005
 * 590 January 2005
 * 81 December 2004
 * 51 November 2004
 * 150 October 2004
 * 500 September 2004
 * 379 August 2004
 * 415 July 2004
 * 150 June 2004
 * 74 May 2004
 * 125 April 2004
 * 132 March 2004
 * 93 February 2004
 * 5 January 2004

 * 2005   9472
 * 2004   2155
 * 2004   2155

Cricketer Ranjit
I have found an article at site indicated below which you can visit and see what to do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K._S._Ranjitsinhji

--Dore chakravarty 23:58, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

reply re pics
Hi Nicholas Got a positive reply from the guy I emailed about using his photos. Shall I just reply thanks, but sorry it's too late? Tony

OK then, we need to make a selection so I can ask him. Perhaps three or four? Some of his photos are not good compositionally, and some have scanning streaks. Some of these I could improve a little on my computer before posting. What do you think?

Sherpa musicians

Communist flag:

Communist victory parade (poor composition):

Mt Ama Dablam

Mt Everest

Village in Annapurna region

Mustard fields 1 Mustard fields 2

Village houses

Tony 11:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Images request
Hi, Can you please take a snapshot of Dadabai Naoroji's statue, whenever you get the opportunity? I will write one related article in gratitude when you get one. :-) Since he died on 1917, all his images should be PD, right? BTW, User:GKarunakar is the dude I mentioned who has taken some good photos and he doesn't mind putting it under GFDL/CC-by-sa. -- Pamri • Talk 15:12, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Unable to create a category
I've tried to create a category on Category:Leaders outsted by Coup but there seems 2 b some problem in creating that category. Is there any rule that only admins can create categories? I didn't see any consensus being reached at the proposal to restrict creation only to admins... pl. help Idleguy 17:19, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Please Remove the Awful picture from the history
Hi Nichalp,

Can you please remove the awful pictures that show up in the history of article "tamil people". Some person put up a pornographic picture and others reverted it. See revisions by JeremyA and others. But it shows up in the history. Is there anything that can be done about it?

thanks

 * Yes, there is a way. I'd have to delete the entire article and restore selected versions. To make my task simpler, (as I'm usually pretty busy) please give me the differences like this . Thank you. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:44, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Q I photos
The commonscat image added to Eng version(seen also the relevant page) and 3 more QI photos added to French version of Quit India. Await further directions.

--Dore chakravarty 20:04, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Re Cricket WikiProject
Yeah, you caught me fair and square adding things to a cricket article. at the moment I think I'd prefer to stay out of the WikiProject, simply because I already spend far too much time on Wikipedia - but I'll keep adding occasional items to cricket files here. Thanks for the compliment, too! :) Grutness...  wha?  22:11, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

 * First, I do watch my user page: thanks for the barnstar, it made my evening :)  Second, thanks for the invitation: I've effectively been a participant of WikiProject Cricket since jguk started it, but I really don't feel the need to sign up; but thanks anyway. Third, I'm away for a week: see you anon.-- ALoan (Talk) 23:08, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Done-Quit India Movement in W.Commons
Done as per directions as under.

If you notice category:Quit India Movement is a red link etc.

--222.153.110.150 23:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

List of Northwest Territories general elections
Greetings, I have attempted to resolve your objections to the List of Northwest Territories general elections, when you have a spare moment, please review and see if the changes are satisfactory. Thank you --Cloveious 02:09, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Nepal!
I'm very pleased; you're playing a large part in lifting the documentation of South Asia on Wikipedia to one of the best treated parts of the world. :-) Tony 05:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Congrats on Nepal. By the way, see the latest edits to Bhutan. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:22, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes
Yes i am from Bhutan. did you ever study in kalimpong or sikkim. Rinzin 07:54, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Who wrote the article on bhutan its very good. is it a group effort.almosty all the data is correct i dont know much about the stats used but the rest is pretty much accurate. where do you get the data from. Alos i would like to know how those comments are attached after the change so that i can explain why i have done it.Rinzin

Ganpanti
Hi Nichalp, I noticed in your comments on my talk page you mentioned Ganpanti celebrations, and the link to Ganpanti was red. Is this worthy of an article? If you're too busy, point me in the right direction and I'll get a stub started. Proto t c 09:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

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Pennine Bridleway

The Pennine Bridleway is a National Trail in Northern England.

It runs roughly parallel with the Pennine Way but provides access for horse riders and cyclists as well as walkers. The trail is around 205 mi long, extending from Derbyshire to Cumbria. It includes the 47 mi Mary Towneley Loop and the 10 mi Settle Loop. In its southern part, it follows the High Peak Trail along the trackbed of the former Cromford and High Peak Railway.

History
In 1986, Mary Towneley rode on horseback 250 mi from Corbridge, Northumberland, to Ashbourne, Derbyshire, to launch the idea of a Pennine Bridleway. This was followed by a feasibility study and route investigation from 1987 to 1990. Finally in 1995 approval was granted for the Pennine Bridleway National Trail from Carsington Water, Derbyshire, to Kirkby Stephen, Cumbria.

In 1999, Sport England awarded and donated £1,841,876 towards the route from Derbyshire to North Yorkshire and three feeder routes from Keighley, Bolton and Penistone. The Pennine Bridleway project team was appointed by the Countryside Agency and work began shortly.

In 2000, there was a proposal for an extension to the Pennine Bridleway from Kirkby Stephen, Cumbria, to Byrness, Northumberland. This extension was approved in 2002, but has not yet been funded.

Towneley died in February 2001, and is commemorated by the Mary Towneley Loop, which opened in 2002. The southern section of the trail from Derbyshire followed, and in 2005 the Settle Loop opened. The final sections of the trail were opened by Martin Clunes in June 2012.

The Pennine Bridleway is not to be confused with the Pennine Cycleway (part of the National Cycle Network) or the Pennine Way (a separate National Trail).

Derbyshire
The Pennine Bridleway has two starting points in Derbyshire. The main starting point is at Middleton-by-Wirksworth, from where it follows the High Peak Trail along a disused railway passing through the limestone of the White Peak. The second starting point, recommended for horse riders, is the site of the former Hartington railway station, and uses a short section of the Tissington Trail before joining the High Peak Trail at Parsley Hay. At the end of the High Peak Trail, 7 km south east of Buxton, the route heads north following the line of a packhorse road from Tideswell, via Peak Forest to Hayfield, where it briefly follows the line of another converted railway, the Sett Valley Trail.

North of Hayfield, there is a gap of 8 km in the bridleway. There are alternative routes for walkers and cyclists, but no safe route for horse riders until the missing section is completed. The route resumes at Bottoms Reservoir near Tintwistle in Longdendale. Spending cuts meant that a 2.5 mi gap still existed between Charlesworth and Tintwistle in 2017.

Greater Manchester
Leaving Derbyshire for Greater Manchester, the trail follows the edge of a heather moor and picks up the trackbed of a former railway line along the Tame valley through the tourist village of Uppermill and to the village of Diggle. From here the trail heads west across moorland and descends to follow a dismantled railway towards Hollingworth Lake. It then crosses moorland east of Littleborough before joining the Mary Towneley Loop near Summit.

Mary Towneley Loop
The shorter route follows the Mary Towneley Loop counterclockwise, heading north into West Yorkshire. The trail passes the villages of Bottomley and Mankinholes, then drops down to cross the Calder Valley just west of the town of Hebden Bridge. It then climbs to cross Heptonstall Moor and enters Lancashire south of Widdop.

The longer clockwise route of the Mary Towneley Loop heads west from Summit and climbs to Top of Leach at 474 m. The trail passes through the town of Waterfoot in the Rossendale Valley and follows new tracks via Lumb before entering the Cliviger Gorge and then climbing up to the Long Causeway. It then heads north to the top of the Loop just east of Worsthorne.

Lancashire
From the top of the Mary Towneley Loop the trail heads north to the village of Wycoller, then turns west to pass south of Earby and Barnoldswick. For several miles it follows an old track named Coal Pit Lane to reach Gisburne Park on the River Ribble. It then heads north across the flatter landscape of the Ribble Valley to enter North Yorkshire just north of the village of Paythorne.

North Yorkshire and Cumbria
At the southern edge of the Yorkshire Dales the route reaches Long Preston on the busy A65 road. The route through Long Preston and across the A65 has not yet been finalised. The trail heads north from Long Preston to the town of Settle. South of Settle the Settle Loop branches east to rejoin the main route just north of the town.

At Stainforth the route turns west to Feizor, Austwick and Clapham on ancient walled lanes. From Clapham the trail turns north east to Selside and crosses to the east side of Ribblesdale. It then joins the Pennine Way for 7 km, climbing Cam Fell. A new trail is then followed west over high and exposed terrain to Newby Head. The route briefly enters Cumbria over Dent Fell, then reenters North Yorkshire at Garsdale Head.

At the head of Wensleydale the route follows an old track (Lady Anne's Way) to cross into the Mallerstang valley in Cumbria. The trail then crosses Wild Boar Fell to reach its present terminus near the village of Ravenstonedale.

Link routes
One feeder route has been opened, and two more are planned:
 * The 17 mi Calder–Aire Link starts at Bingley in West Yorkshire, and runs through Wilsden and across Oxenhope Moor to join the Mary Towneley Loop near Widdop.
 * The 42 mi West Pennine Link will run from Smithills Hall near Bolton to join the Mary Towneley Loop near Clowbridge Reservoir in Rossendale.
 * The West Pennine Perimeter is planned to join with the West Pennine Link to provide a circular route around the West Pennine Moors.

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