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.web

.web is a proposed top-level domain (TLD) that was created and assigned by an auction process to several bidding companies. It was awarded to Nu Dot Co LLC, which is primarily funded by Verisign.

Nu Dot Co LLC's acquisition of the .web TLD was not only a major business move but also a strategic acquisition intended to enhance the digital landscape. The introduction of .web is anticipated to offer more choice for businesses and individuals seeking memorable and effective online identities. This aligns with the ongoing expansion of the internet's namespace, which aims to accommodate a wider variety of activities and entities online. Moreover, Verisign's involvement suggests that the .web domain could benefit from robust infrastructure and expertise in domain management, ensuring stability and security for future registrants. The rollout of .web is expected to foster innovation and competition in the domain industry, providing a fresh alternative to traditional TLDs like .com and .net.

Auction
The right to operate the domain .web was won by Nu Dot Co LLC at an auction, which was primarily funded by market-dominant Verisign, for a price of $135 million, equivalent to $ in. The ICANN auction of last resort that started on July 27, 2016, completed on July 28, 2016. ICANN will retain all the proceeds from this auction. TLD .web will be added to the official root after ICANN awards the registry contract.

Seven companies were bidding for the right to operate .web:
 * Nu Dot Co, LLC (Straat), funded by Verisign
 * Charleston Road Registry, Inc. (Google)
 * Web.com Group, Inc.
 * DotWeb, Inc.
 * Ruby Glen, LLC
 * Schlund Technologies GmbH (United Internet)
 * Afilias Domains No. 3 Limited

Delays
Although Nu Dot Co LLC won the rights to operate the .web domain in 2016, the release of the domain has been postponed by a series of events.

The release of gTLD .web was initially postponed due to Ruby Glen, LCC. On August 8, 2016, they filed an amended complaint against ICANN, which began July 22, 2016. The major complaint was that Verisign planned to use Nu Dot Co LLC to acquire the .web domain. The complaint was dismissed on November 28, 2016. However, the dismissal was appealed on December 20, 2016.

The Antitrust Division of the U.S. Department of Justice opened an investigation concerning antitrust issues with ICANN on February 9, 2017. The investigation closed on January 10, 2018.

On February 23, 2018, applicant Afilias, who was the second highest bidder, requested documents from ICANN.

On May 19, 2022, ICANN's BAMC (Board Accountability Mechanisms Committee) decided to ask the involved parties to rehash what had happened by sending an official letter in the form of an email to all the entities involved in the .web bidding.

Registry
.web was operated as a prospective registry, but never worked in the official root, by Image Online Design 1995. It originated when Jon Postel, then running the top level of the Domain Name System basically single-handedly, proposed the addition of new top-level domains to be run by different registries. Since internet tradition at the time emphasized "rough consensus and running code", Christopher Ambler, who ran Image Online Design, saw this as meaning that his company could get a new TLD into the root by starting up a functional registry for it. After asking and receiving permission from IANA to do so, IOD promoted web, but the TLD never worked on the internet as it failed to get ICANN approval.

IOD's initial excitement was tempered by the regulatory realities of the evolving internet governance, which grew more formalized with ICANN's establishment in 1998. As the internet expanded and stakeholders from various sectors became involved, the path to legitimizing new TLDs became increasingly complex and bureaucratic. Despite these setbacks, the .web registry maintained a significant following and continued to advocate for its inclusion in the official DNS root, reflecting a persistent belief in the potential of this domain.

Since then, IOD has tried and failed to get their domain into the official root through several plans to admit new top-level domains. Several new-TLD plans in the late 1990s, including Postel's original proposal, failed to reach sufficient consensus among the increasingly contentious factions of the Internet to admit any new TLDs, including.web. When ICANN accepted applications for new TLDs in 2000, which resulted in the seven new domains being added soon afterward, IOD's application was not approved; all unapproved applications were rejected. A second round of new TLD assignments was conducted with new applications and only for sponsored domains (generally intended for use by limited communities and run by nonprofit entities). However, the registry for.web remained hopeful that its application would eventually be approved. On May 10, 2007, ICANN announced the opening of public comments towards a new, third round of new gTLDs, a round in which IOD did not participate. One of these new TLD applicants will prevail and operate the web TLD which will resolve on the internet.

At times, IOD has claimed priority rights to the TLD string.web, although any legal basis for such a claim is questionable given that the United States Patent and Trademark Office has stated that top-level domains are not trademarkable in themselves. IOD does, however, have a registered trademark for the term "web.". IOD has objected to proposals for a.web domain not operated by them, and to date, none of these plans have received approval. An application by Afilias to operate a.web domain was turned down in favor of their running .info instead. Vint Cerf, then chair of ICANN, noted that he recognized IOD's pioneering work in.web and felt that.web should be held in reserve for IOD's application in the next round rather than be awarded to Afilias, preferring that they receive.info instead. Afilias is one of the seven applicants who will eventually operate .web.

The IOD web registry has in the past accepted registrations and intended to allow them to continue in force after entering the root, although some commentators feel that ICANN ought to require them to discard existing registrations and proceed with a startup procedure as with other new TLDs, so as not to grant any legitimacy to unofficial registrations. No previous web registrations will have legal claim when the TLD goes live.

On February 7, 2013, the United States District Court for the Central District of California approved a motion to dismiss the complaint from ICANN.

Some movies used .web domains for fictional companies. For example, the film Next Day Air has advertised on one of their trucks the link www.nda.web. Skyfall advertises www.868000.web on the side of a taxi during a pursuit scene. However, as of the current time, none of these domains are operational.

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Cease Fire (Star Trek: Enterprise)

"Cease Fire" is the 41st episode (production #215) of the television series Star Trek: Enterprise, the 15th episode of the second season. The series, set in the 22nd century of the Star Trek universe, follows the crew of Earth's faster-than-light spaceship, Enterprise, as they explore the galaxy under command of Captain Jonathan Archer.

In the episode, Archer attempts to negotiate a cease fire between the Andorians and the Vulcans.

Plot
The Andorians and the Vulcans are locked in battle over a planet situated on the frontier between their two systems. The Andorians call it "Weytahn," and the Vulcans "Paan Mokar", and it is claimed by both sides. Andorian Commander Shran, however, has broken the treaty and reoccupied a settlement. With the Vulcans calling for a cease fire, Shran seeks Captain Archer's help with negotiations. Vulcan Ambassador Soval is reluctant to bring Archer in as mediator, but three Vulcans have been taken hostage, and Shran only trusts Archer (particularly since the events of "The Andorian Incident").

Archer and Sub-Commander T'Pol head down to the planet for a meeting with Shran. His lieutenant, Tarah, is especially wary of T'Pol, but Archer manages to convince Shran to release one of the hostages as a sign of good faith. Soval then agrees to negotiations, but remains skeptical. Meanwhile, Shran has a tense moment with Tarah, who objects to his attempts to negotiate with the Vulcans. She would rather fight to reclaim the planet for the Andorians. As the shuttlepod nears the planet, it is fired on and forced to crash-land. Soval suggests the Andorians are trying to sabotage the peace talks, but Archer doesn't believe Shran would resort to such tactics. Shran is furious that Archer's shuttle was downed, but Tarah claims that it was the Vulcans trying to frame the Andorians.

Meanwhile, on Enterprise, Commander Tucker must keep the Vulcan and Andorian vessels from firing on each another. To do so, he maneuvers between the two groups. Down on the surface, Archer, T'Pol, and Soval are attempting to make their way to Shran's location, when Soval is shot. Archer discovers that renegade Andorians are behind the attack, and captures Tarah. She initially denies involvement, but eventually confesses, and angrily informs Shran that there are others who feel the same way. With the situation under control, and with Archer's help, the two sides agree to a ceasefire and continued peace talks.

Production
Guest star Suzie Plakson appears as Tarah the first female Andorian seen in Star Trek. Plakson made several previous appearances in Star Trek, as a Vulcan, a Klingon and a Q.

Reception
In a 2015 SyFy interview with Scott Bakula and Dominic Keating, this episode was a recommended favorite of theirs.

In 2019, Den of Geek recommended this episode to understand the importance of the Shran character to the show.

In 2021, The Digital Fix said that this episode was one of the strongest in season two, and praised the character development of Shran and Soval.

In his 2022 rewatch, Keith DeCandido of Tor.com gave it 8 out of 10.

Releases
The first home media release of "Cease Fire" was as part of the season two DVD box set, released in the United States on July 26, 2005. A release on Blu-ray Disc for season two occurred on August 20, 2013.

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Panaeolus cinctulus

Panaeolus cinctulus, syn. Panaeolus subbalteatus, commonly known as the banded mottlegill, weed Panaeolus, belted panaeolus, or subbs is a very common, widely distributed psilocybin mushroom. According to American naturalist and mycologist David Arora, Panaeolus cinctulus is the most common psilocybin mushroom in California.

During the early 1900s, these species were referred to as the "weed Panaeolus" because they were commonly found in beds of the commercially grown, grocery-store mushroom Agaricus bisporus. Mushroom farmers had to weed it out from the edible mushrooms because of its hallucinogenic properties.

Name
The descriptor subbalteatus comes from the Latin words sub ('somewhat') and balteat ('girdled'), a reference to the dark outer band of the cap.

Description

 * Cap: 1.5–5.5 cm, hemispherical to convex when young to broadly umbonate or plane in age, smooth, hygrophanous, striking cinnamon-brown when moist, soot-black when wet which disappears as the mushroom completely dries out. The outer band is usually darker. The flesh is cinnamon-brown to cream-colored and thin.
 * Gills: Close, adnate to adnexed, cream-colored when young, later mottled dingy brown then to soot-black. Gill edges white and slightly fringed, but turn blackish when fully mature.
 * Spore Print: Jet Black
 * Spores: 12 x 8 μm, smooth, ellipitic-citriform, thick-walled.
 * Stipe: 2–10 cm long, 2–9 mm thick, equal or tapered at the ends, reddish brown to whitish, pruinose, hollow, no veil remnants, longitudinally white-fibrillose and white-powdered, striate at the apex or twisting vertically down the entire length of the stipe, Stem base and mycelium occasionally staining blue.
 * Taste: Farinaceous (like flour) when fresh, saliferous (salty) when dried.
 * Odor: Slightly farinaceous.
 * Microscopic features: Spores 11–16 x 7.5–10 x 6–9 μm, smooth, elliptical to rhomboid in face view, elliptical in side view.

Morphologically, Panaeolus cinctulus can be easily confused with other species of psilocybin mushrooms. They have a resemblance to Panaeolus fimicola, and prefer the same habitats, but the latter species has sulphidia on the gill faces.

Habitat and formation
Panaeolus cinctulus is a cosmopolitan species that grows solitary to gregarious to cespitose (densely clumped) on compost piles, well-fertilized lawns and gardens, and, rarely, directly on horse dung. It grows from Spring to Fall seasons. It grows abundantly after rain. It can be found in many regions, including: Africa (South Africa), Austria, Canada (Alberta, British Columbia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, Ontario, Quebec, Nova Scotia ), Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Great Britain, Guadeloupe, Estonia, Iceland, India, Ireland, Italy, South Korea, Japan, Mexico, New Guinea, New Zealand, Norway, Philippines, Russia, Slovenia, South America (Argentina, Chile, Brazil) and the United States (it is common in Oregon, Alaska, Washington, and both Northern and Southern California, but is also known to occur in all 50 states).

It has also been sighted in Melbourne, Australia, Central Queensland, Australia Belgium and The Czech Republic.

Legality
The legal status of psilocybin mushrooms varies worldwide. Psilocybin and psilocin are listed as Class A (United Kingdom) or Schedule I (US) drugs under the United Nations 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Substances. The possession and use of psilocybin mushrooms, including P. cinctulus, is therefore prohibited by extension. However, in many national, state, and provincial drug laws, there is a great deal of ambiguity about the legal status of psilocybin mushrooms and the spores of these mushrooms. Panaeolus cinctulus is mildly psychoactive.

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Wayne Pearce

Wayne John Pearce OAM (born 29 March 1960 in Balmain, New South Wales) is an Australian former professional rugby league footballer and coach. An athletic for the Balmain Tigers, he was known as Junior. Pearce represented New South Wales in the State of Origin Series as well as the Australian national rugby league team. Pearce also made an appearance the 1988 Australian television movie The First Kangaroos, which depicted the 1908–09 Kangaroo tour of Great Britain.

Coaching career
Pearce took over as Balmain coach in 1994, and coached Balmain for six seasons before they merged with the Western Suburbs Magpies. In 2000, Pearce became the inaugural coach of the Wests Tigers but stepped down after one season. Pearce also coached New South Wales for three seasons and in 2000 led New South Wales to a clean sweep winning the series 3–0. In 2001, Pearce coached NSW in what would prove to be his last series. His last game in charge resulted in a 40–14 defeat by Queensland.

Accolades
In February 2008, Pearce was named in the list of Australia's 100 Greatest Players (1908–2007), which was commissioned by the NRL and ARL to celebrate the code's centenary year in Australia.

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Oak Grove Heights, Missouri

Oak Grove Heights is an unincorporated community in eastern Greene County, Missouri, United States. It is located on Route 125, approximately five miles northwest of Rogersville and one mile south of the James River.

The community grew around the location of the Oak Grove School which was two miles west of the James River community of Turners and just northeast of Turner Creek and the old St. Louis–San Francisco Railway (currently the BNSF Railway) which followed the stream course.

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Smokey the Bear Sutra

The Smokey the Bear Sutra is a 1969 poem by Gary Snyder which presents environmental concerns in the form of a Buddhist sutra, and depicts Smokey as the reincarnation of Vairocana Buddha. Snyder composed the poem in one night for a February 1969 Sierra Club Wilderness Conference, at which he distributed the first copies. It was later performed during the first Earth Day celebrations in 1970. A note at the end of the poem states that it "may be reproduced free forever" thus dedicating it to the public domain, and it has since been widely disseminated in print and electronic forms.

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Yasuharu Konishi

Yasuharu Konishi (小西 康陽) is a Japanese musician, composer and DJ. He was a founding member of Pizzicato Five and the only such to stay with the group until its breakup in 2001. Konishi's current activities are through his company readymade entertainment and his record label 524 records (a play on words from Konishi's name, as the numbers 524 can be read ko-ni-shi in Japanese using goroawase).

Collaboration
Konishi is a prolific producer, composer, arranger and remixer. He has written, produced and arranged in collaboration with many artists, such as Unicorn, Towa Tei, Mari Natsuki, Cornelius, Yumi Yoshimura of Puffy AmiYumi, Alisa Mizuki, Akiko Wada, SMAP and Mika Nakashima.

Konishi's remixes are featured in a far greater range of recordings. In addition to remixing individual tracks for a wide variety of artists for inclusion in their own releases, Konishi has been a prominent figure in several remix-only projects. Some of these have centered on music from cartoons, such as Lupin III and Astro Boy. Others have focused on specific artists, such as James Brown and Tom Jones.

In 2003, he introduced Franco-English pop singer-songwriter MeeK to the Japanese public by writing an introductory essay on MeeK's debut album Psychotique, released on the Indie Tokyo record label MINF.

Other projects
Konishi produced a video game called Beatmania – The Sound of Tokyo, for Konami's long running Bemani series. In 2009, he was responsible for the music and music direction of Talk Like Singing, a musical starring Shingo Katori of SMAP, that made its world premiere in New York City.

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Robert Pack (basketball)

Robert John Pack Jr. (born February 3, 1969) is an American professional basketball coach and former player. He last coached the Rwandan club REG of the Basketball Africa League A 6ft 2in point guard, he played 13 seasons in the National Basketball Association (NBA).

High school and college career
Pack attended Alfred Lawless High School in New Orleans. He was a high school teammate of future NBA player Eldridge Recasner and graduated from Lawless in 1987. He then attended Tyler Junior College for two years, transferred to the University of Southern California in 1989, and graduated with a degree in sociology in 1991. He averaged 13.4 points per game and 5.3 assists in his two seasons at USC.

Early career
Pack was not drafted by an NBA team, rather he began his career by being signed as a free agent by the Portland Trail Blazers on September 16, 1991. He made the team by beating out veteran Walter Davis and played 72 games for the Blazers as a rookie, averaging 4.6 points/game in 12.4 MPG as he was entrenched behind veterans Terry Porter and Danny Ainge. The Blazers went to the NBA Finals that year, before losing the series, 4–2, to the Chicago Bulls. During the 1992 off-season, after the Blazers signed free agent point guard Rod Strickland, Pack was traded to the Nuggets for a 1993 second-round draft pick.

Mid-career
Pack spent three seasons with the Nuggets from 1992–93 until 1994–95, with his minutes and games started increasing each season. On March 18, 1993, Pack set a then-career-high with 27 points while coming off the bench in a 105-101 loss to the Boston Celtics. He was part of a young Nuggets team starring Dikembe Mutombo, LaPhonso Ellis and Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf that became the first eighth-seeded team in NBA history to defeat the first-seeded team as the Nuggets defeated the Seattle SuperSonics in the first round of the 1994 Western Conference Playoffs. Pack was then traded to the Washington Bullets for Doug Overton and Don MacLean on October 30, 1995. Injuries slowed Pack during the prime years of his career, as he never played a full 82-game season. In 31 games for the Bullets, Pack averaged 18.1 ppg, 7.8 apg, 4.3 rpg and 2.00 spg in what was his best season statistically. Prior to the 1996–97 season he was signed by the New Jersey Nets before being traded mid-season to the Dallas Mavericks along with Shawn Bradley, Ed O'Bannon and Khalid Reeves for Sam Cassell, Chris Gatling, Jim Jackson, George McCloud and Eric Montross. Pack remained with the Mavericks through the end of the 1999–00 season, never playing more than the 54 games he played in 1996–97 as injuries slowed his career.

Late career
Pack returned to the Nuggets for the 2000–01 season after being traded by the Mavericks via the Boston Celtics. He played 74 games that season, starting 11 of them as a replacement for starting point guard Nick Van Exel. The Minnesota Timberwolves signed him in the off-season and he played 16 games for them in 2001–02. His final two seasons in the NBA were as a veteran backup point guard off the bench for the New Orleans Hornets (2002–03) and the New Jersey Nets (2003–04). On October 2, 2005, Pack signed a contract with the Toronto Raptors for a tryout with the team. His stint with the Raptors was short-lived as he was cut by the team on October 22.

He finished his NBA career and from 2004 to 2005 he played in Žalgiris Kaunas in Lithuania.

Coaching career
In August 2009, Pack joined the New Orleans Hornets as an assistant coach. He became an assistant coach for the Los Angeles Clippers the next season. On July 31, 2013, he became an assistant coach for the Oklahoma City Thunder.

On June 22, 2015, he returned to the now New Orleans Pelicans as an assistant coach.

On October 10, 2018, Pack joined the Washington Wizards as assistant coach.

On February 18, 2022, Pack was announced as the new head coach of the Rwandan club REG ahead of the Basketball Africa League (BAL).

Other
Pack was known as one of the game's better dunkers during the first half of the 1990s and one of the more spectacular in-game dunkers of all-time among smaller players, due largely to his outstanding vertical leap and lateral quickness. He finished second in the 1994 NBA Slam Dunk Contest during the NBA All-Star Weekend in Minneapolis, Minnesota, behind Isaiah Rider.

He achieved two triple-doubles in his career.

Philanthropy
In November 2016, Pack and Percy "Master P" Miller formed Team H.O.P.E. NOLA, an acronym for “Helping Our Players Excel.” Its players were twenty at-risk males between the ages of 12–15 and chosen from New Orleans-area schools.

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Demophon of Athens

In Greek mythology, Demophon (Ancient Greek: Δημοφῶν or Δημοφόων) was a veteran of the Trojan War and king of Athens. The son of Theseus and Phaedra, Demophon was raised in exile by a family friend after his father was deposed. He later fought in the Trojan War, being one of those who hid in the Trojan Horse. Following the fall of Troy and the rescue of his grandmother Aethra, Demophon is said to have landed in Thrace on his return journey, where he met and married Phyllis, the daughter of the king. Leaving for Athens, Demophon promised to return, and when he did not, Phyllis committed suicide in despair. Arriving in Athens after a possible stop in Cyprus, Demophon succeeded Menestheus as king of Athens, supposedly in 1183 B.C. As king, he gave refuge and land to the Heracleidae in Athens, fought Diomedes and wrested the Palladium from him, presided over the creation of the court of the Ephetae, and hosted Orestes during his madness. Demophon died in Athens in 1150 B.C. after a reign of 33 years, and was succeeded by his son Oxyntes.

Early life and family
According to Pindar, Demophon was the son of Theseus (the son of Aethra and King of Aegeus of Athens or Poseidon) and Phaedra, or Iope, daughter of Iphicles, which would make Demophon a relative of Heracles. Demophon was the brother of Acamas. Demophon had half siblings as well, including Hippolytus and Melanippus. Demophon was born during the reign of his father, Theseus, as king of Athens. Phaedra, his mother, committed suicide after it was discovered that her claim of rape by Hippolytus was false.

After his father journeyed to the underworld with his friend, Pirithous, he lost the throne of Athens upon his return to Menestheus, supposedly in 1205 B.C. Consequently, Demophon and Acamas were exiled to Euboea, where they grew up under the care of Elephenor, a relative by marriage. Theseus went into exile as well, until he was murdered by being thrown off a cliff on Scyros by Lycomedes.

Trojan war
When the Trojan War (said to have taken place from 1193 B.C. to 1183 B.C.) broke out, Demophon joined the Achaeans, led by King Agamemnon of Mycenae, however, he is not mentioned by Homer. The Athenians were led in battle by Menestheus. When Troy fell, he was among those who entered the city in the Trojan Horse. During the Fall of Troy, after making their intentions known to Agamemnon, Demophon and Acamas freed their grandmother Aethra, Helen's handmaid who had been captured by the Dioscuri while Theseus was in the underworld years before, and brought her home. Shortly thereafter, however, Aethra committed suicide after learning of the death of her son Theseus decades before. Demophon survived the war, however, like other Achaean leaders, his return journey was not simple.

Thrace and Cyprus
According to some sources, Demophon, stopping in Thrace on his return journey from the Trojan War, married Phyllis, daughter of a Thracian king (possibly Sithon). On the day after the wedding, however, he decided to complete his voyage and sail to Athens, promising to return to Thrace and take Phyllis with him as soon as possible. She gave him a casket and told not to open it unless he should lose every hope to return to Thrace.

Demophon, according to some traditions, eventually stopped in or even settled in Cyprus and forgot about Phyllis. She would come to the sea shore every day, expecting to see the sails of his ship, but in vain. After the appointed date was past, she either died of grief or hanged herself. One day, according to some versions of the story, Demophon opened the casket out of curiosity; what he saw there was so horrifying that he jumped onto his horse and rode like wild till he fell off the horse on his own sword and died. Others, however, say that he did return to Thrace, but Phyllis was already dead by the time; when he embraced the lifeless almond tree into which she was said to have transformed after death, it started to blossom.

Lucian relates this story concerning not Demophon, but his brother Acamas, probably because the character of his work was supposed to be ignorant and to have confounded the two brothers. Tzetzes echoes this. Acamas is better known for having been loved by Laodice, daughter of Priam, and to have fathered Munitus by her. However, it has been said by Plutarch that Demophon was in fact the lover of Laodice and father of Munitus. Munitus, who was raised by his great-grandmother Aethra, later died of snakebite while hunting in Thrace.

King of Athens
Not all sources, however, accepted the tradition of Demophon's death in Cyprus, stating he was one of the few heroes fortunate enough to return home safely. In Euripides' play Heracleidae, and in other sources, Demophon became king of Athens, having succeeded Menestheus after the latter's death (said to have occurred in 1183 B.C.). In the play, Demophon granted the children of Heracles, fleeing from Eurystheus, refuge and land in Athens. As Eurystheus prepared to attack, an oracle told Demophon that he would win if and only if a noble virgin was sacrificed to Persephone. Macaria, daughter of Heracles, volunteered for the sacrifice and a spring was named the Macarian spring in her honor. Another tale has been related of Demophon pertaining to the hero Diomedes, or, in other versions, Agamemnon. The story goes that, one night, Diomedes landed on the coast of Attica after a storm and, after failing to recognize the land, began ravaging it. King Demophon marched out against the invaders, and, after the Athenians slew numerous Argives, was successful enough to wrest the Palladium from Diomedes, who had taken it from Troy. However, in the confusion of the nighttime fray, the king accidentally killed a fellow Athenian by trampling him with his horse. Shortly thereafter, the court of the Ephetae was established by Demophon, with the initial purpose of trying himself for his crime. This tribunal would later be given jurisdiction over all murder cases. The tribunal was made up of 50 Athenians, as well as 50 Argives, all aged upwards of 50. Demophon submitted himself as the first person to be tried by the court, with the verdict of his case being unknown, nevertheless, he continued on as King of Athens.

Later, Orestes, seeking asylum after avenging his father, Agamemnon, by murdering his mother and her lover, arrived in Athens during Demophon's reign. As Orestes arrived during the celebration of the Anthesteria, precautions were taken by the king that he would not pollute the sacred rights, resulting in the second day of the festival, called Choes. Orestes was tried at Athens by the Erinyes, and was acquitted by Athena's tiebreaking vote, although his madness continued.

Death and succession
Demophon is said to have died in Athens in 1150 B.C. after a reign of 33 years, and was succeeded by his son Oxyntes. Oxyntes was succeeded by his son Apheidas in 1136 B.C., who was succeeded by his brother Thymoetes in 1135 B.C. after his assassination. Thymoetes was deposed in 1127 B.C. by Melanthus, a Neleid. Thus, Demophon's dynasty held onto power for only 23 years after Demophon's death.

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Pic of the day
Hi Denni,

Just to let you know that your photo Image:Mackerelskybig.jpg is due to make a reappearance as Pic of the Day on the 10th July. I've more or less used the same caption as last time, but you can make any changes at Picture of the day/July 12, 2005. -- Solipsist 3 July 2005 18:42 (UTC)

Michael Shahbaz VfD
The subject of this VfD is mis-spelled, rather than non-notable; I have moved the article to the proper spelling. Might you reconsider your nomination in light of this? Cheers! -- BD2412 talk July 4, 2005 00:43 (UTC)

Re: Urethral gland
Hi Denni! I'm sorry if I offended you by not discussing my changes to this article. However, I didn't really feel that I was in disagreement with you so, to my mind, there wasn't much to discuss. It looked to me that you had marked the article for speedy deletion under the "Very short articles providing little or no context" policy. I agreed that, under that policy it was a speedy candidate, however, after checking the entry on this subject in Encyclopedia Britannica I decided to try to save the article by providing enough context to take it beyond being a candidate for speedy deletion. The original author is an active editor, so I hoped that he might come back to this and expand it beyond a stub (I doubt that it will ever be a large article however—Britannica has three sentences on the subject). I have no strong feelings on this article though, so if you feel that it is still a speedy candidate please feel free to re-apply the tag—I will let another admin look at it and make the decision on whether or not to delete. JeremyA 4 July 2005 01:45 (UTC)

Sahaba
Thank you for your credits and tips!

I have a very hard time to include everything i find, right now i have 1...2...3...4.. 32 windows upp doing resarch.. when i find somthing i just add it and quickly move on.. but ill add "this is a sahaba of Muhammad" to the beggining of my standard template :)

Have a nice day!

--Striver 4 July 2005 02:40 (UTC)

Hello!

I hope your donig fine :)

I have a disagreement with a admin, and i would appreciate to se your point of view.

You can find the argumentation in his talk page and mine talk page.

the whole boils down to that the admin refuses to let me add this to the [Ali] article:

 * ''"Shias belive Ali was born in the Ka'ba. Some sunnis agree to that, but some say it was Hakim that was the only one to be born in it, therefor exluding Ali. And a third group dissmis the whole notion of somebody having been born in it. With current sources, it can not be established wich is the biggest of the three groups."

Have a nice day!

--Striver 13:58, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... ok, that came as a surprise. Thanks for your time!

A second question if i may: How come that you do not deem those links to prove that some Sunnis belive that someone was born on the Kabaa? I mean, it dosen't prove that all do, or even manny, but surley it proves that some do?

--Striver 02:34, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok, so it does not even prove that the ones that made the site belive in it?

--Striver 02:51, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Now i understan how you mean. Thanks for your time and have a good day/night!

--Striver 03:03, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi Denni!

I hade made a really long article in where i presented the Sunni and Shia vews on hadith that deal with Nikah Mut'ah. I hade invested a lot of time in it, and was on my way do spend more time on it. Gues what? It was deleted!

I looked though the rules and found this in here: Criteria_for_speedy_deletion

 * ''Sysops may immediately delete a page, so long as it satisfies one of the following criteria.

--This does not apply to content that was undeleted according to undeletion policy.
 * ''1. No meaningful content or history, text completely meaningless or unsalvageably incoherent (e.g. random characters). See patent nonsense.
 * ''2. Test pages (e.g., "Can I really create a page here?").
 * ''3. Pure vandalism (see also dealing with vandalism). This includes redirects created during cleanup of page move vandalism.
 * ''4. Reposted content that was deleted according to Wikipedia deletion policy.
 * ''5. Contributions made by a banned user after they were banned, unless the user has been unbanned. This is slightly controversial!
 * ''6. Temporarily deleting a page in order to merge page histories after a cut and paste move.
 * ''7. Any page which is requested for deletion by the original author, provided the author reasonably explains that it was created by mistake, and the page was edited only by its author.
 * ''8. Talk pages of already deleted pages unless they contain records of the deletion discussion and are linked from Wikipedia:Archived delete debates (this doesn't apply if the deletion discussion is logged elsewhere, like a VfD sub-page or other log).

My article did not resemble in any whay anything that is described there, so i would like to ask you to undelet it.

If you feel that the article does not deserve to be undeleted, i whould appreciat if you cared to motivated the decision for me.

The name of the article is: Hadiths connected with Mut'ah

Thank you for your time, --Striver 21:37, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!

i Love YOU!!

Ther is still some justice in the world!!

yeaaaa!!

u--hm-- I mean: Thank you for your time, i enough people share your view to make it through undeletion :)

Peace!

--Striver 23:54, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, i will keep that in mind. Just for your information, the article was more than 5 pages long. I would gues 10-15 pages.

--Striver 00:02, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Sign your posts on talk pages!
Remember to always sign all of your posts on talk pages. Typing four tildes after your comment ( ~~~~ ) will insert a signature showing your username and a date/time stamp, which is very helpful. Thanks, Alphax τεχ 5 July 2005 02:24 (UTC)
 * Well, you forgot to here. And {{unsigned}} is such a pain to use when you don't run in UTC. Edit summaries are my other pet peeve. Alphax τεχ 5 July 2005 02:37 (UTC)

Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3
PBurka pointed out that an important omission from this proposal: a band could meet WP:MUSIC criterion #5 (sharing a member with a famous band) and still be speedily deletable by this criterion. I've added a sentence to the proposal to reflect this: it now reads ''An article about a musician or music group that does not assert having released at least one album, nor having had media coverage, nor having a member that is or was also part of a well-known music group. If the assertion is disputed or controversial, it should be taken to VFD instead.'' Please consider if you support this new wording, and change your vote if not. Yours, Radiant_ >|< July 5, 2005 09:54 (UTC)

CSD Proposal 3-B
You voted or commented on Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-B or  Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-A or both. I have proposed a revised version, at Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-C. This version is intended to address objections made by many of those oppsoed to 3-A or 3-B. The revised propsal refers explicitly and directly to the criteria at WP:MUSIC. If you have not already done so, please examine the revised proposal and vote on it also. Thank you. DES 6 July 2005 05:09 (UTC)

Mason Remey article
Just to say that I removed your request for speedy deletion on Mason Remey. An anon had removed all the text on the page about 20 mins before you turned up there (he did nothing else on wikipedia except that).

Hopefully you'll agree that its right, but I thought I'd let you know -- Tomhab 9 July 2005 00:37 (UTC)

Thanks
Cheers Deni, you seem like a decent bloke, are you resident in Canada? Nick Boulevard 22:54, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Moist Towelette
I'm curious why you removed the speedy delete from Moist_towelette. I thought only admins were supposed to do that, yet I didn't see you on the list of administrators. --Barista | a/k/a マイケル | T/C 23:34, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I've been doing RC patrol less than a week, so I think I may have been too hasty on adding speedy delete. --Barista | a/k/a マイケル | T/C 12:44, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

VfD
Can you explain your reasons for labeling Anti-Semitism article with VfD? Resurrected by anon article which originally was redirected to Religious_denominations_in_Poland contains statements which not only are clearly POVs but border with the vandalism. The issue of Polish Anti-Semitism has been addressed in a number of recently discussed and revised articles such as History of the Jews in Poland, Anti-Semitism, History_of_Poland_%281939-1945%29, History_of_Poland_%281945-1989%29, Kielce Pogrom, Massacre in Jedwabne. Do you really think that VfD this article is in the best interest of wiki community? Rather than rising already high temperature among some editor excited by VfD on Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_July_5 and Votes_for_deletion/Anti-Polonism cool and rational approach should prevail. -Ttyre 00:03, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. --Ttyre 00:20, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

When voting for Votes for deletion/Anti-Semitism in Poland ends? --Ttyre 19:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Would you mind responding to my question? --Ttyre 16:48, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Anti-Semitism in Poland
Since you have submitted Anti-Semitism in Poland article for VfD it has been dramatically changed and is undergoing a revert war. Since a couple of dozen people already have voted on mostly original version of the article can you please revert it to the version at the VfD submission time and lock it? --Ttyre 01:31, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Strategic Policy Consulting
It is a candidate for speedy deletion under general criteria (4). Please see the associated VfD at Votes for deletion/Strategic Policy Consulting which closed June 18, 2005. Since then, the article has been recreated twice, with essentially no new material other than a mild re-write which made it a non-copyvio. --Durin 02:47, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

The other Wiki
Saw you creating a talk page on my Wiki...and also saw that you have done Wheel of Time-related pages for Wikipedia. I thought of doing that, too, but I didn't feel like fighting over which characters deserved their own pages. :-) And there's also a few articles on your list that make me suspect you might be a fellow Edmontonian...?

Anyway, welcome to "Concordances And Characters", if you feel like doing things there. If you want to work on Wheel of Time stuff, we should coordinate so we don't get in each other's way. I'm more likely to log into Concord than I am to Wikipedia these days.

Alfvaen 21:59, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Login timeout

 * In response to your July 16 post at the Village Pump:

You may want to go to "Internet Options" in the Control Panel folder and choose the "Privacy" tab. Make your browser accept all cookies. Also, check "remember me" when you log in. If you have more problems, please feel free to tell me! — Stevey7788 (talk) 20:44, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Molatar
What earthly reason did you have for restoring this pointless vanity page? It meets several aspects of a speedy candidate: not noteworthy, vanity based. Additionally it was one of series of related pages created by a obsessed anon user.

I have re-deleted it as we do not need a pointless VFD discussion on a vanity page. IF you can provide a good reason for allowing a VFD discussion (other than just a desire to follow due process) then please tell me. Manning 00:43, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

I've read your comments and I'm afraid I disagree with them wholeheartedly. The point of VFD is to resolve issues with the single goal of enhancing the quality of the 'pedia. It is not, and never has been a process to follow slavishly. From the early days the 'pedia has always been about quality, not process. Despite that - if you are really determined on this "following process" issue then go for it - I've got genuinely useful things to do. I just think you are wasting everyone's time with a stupid VFD issue that should just be allowed to die. Anyway, no offence intended and I hope we will agree on something else in the future. Regards Manning 01:48, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Categories
Hi there! Just thought I'd let you know that because of the templates on the "useful stuff" subpage of yours, you've put that page in certain categories that I'm sure you don't want it. The disambig template puts it in that category and the vfd template puts it in category:Pages on votes for deletion. The simple solution is to subst them in and then manually delete the category inks from the resulting code. It will be aesthetically identical. Thanks! --Dmcdevit·t 21:13, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Jean Baptiste Gustave Planche
Thanks! --Diderot 00:33, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Anti-Semitism in Poland
You put this up at VFD. The VFD was closed as no consensus (27:16 to delete - 62%).

As the result was "no consensus" you can move the old VFD and post a new one as soon as you wish, if you do. 00:30, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Page protection request
Please protect Creation science. See here for more details. -- BRIAN 0918  04:00, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks much. -- BRIAN 0918  04:15, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Non-existing towns/counties and VfD
Hi there. I noticed you listed all of those non-existing counties/towns of that anonymous IP on VfD. However, things which are clearly nonsense don't need to go through the already overfull VfD, but can get the speedy deletion shortcut - simply add instead of the Vfd header. Besides - that guy adding those hoax articles is a returning pest, I have deleted his nonsense several times already, and maybe other admins as well. andy 21:59, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Sistine Chapel Choir/Temp
You placed a speedy tag on this article with the explanation "posible copy vio Sistine Chapel Choir, indentical material posted here". I'm just curious about your reasoning. Have you evidence of copyvio? I was unable to find any, but my only resource was Google. In checking the main article, I note that it does not have the Early History section, which constitutes a significant portion of the article. (I will admit I am curious as to why this was simply not amended to the original.) Finally, the article appears to have been blanked at the same time the speedy tag was applied. I'm wondering why. (BTW, pleased to see another SETI screensaver user at work. Yay us!) Denni ☯ 23:59, 2005 July 30 (UTC)
 * When one suspects a copy vio it is necesary to "blank" the page untill copyright status is established. The copy vio tags aren't always acurate. Infact for Sistine Chapel Choir it was a false warning. When one is suspecting a copy vio and blanks this page the copy vio template clarifies for us to not reintroduce copy vio material to the /temp . It's just the procedure. The parts that werent copyrighted were not blanked. --Cool Cat My Talk 11:20, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yay for SETI! --Cool Cat My Talk 11:20, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Votes for undeletion
You voted in the VfD for Admira Ismić and Boško Brkić. I believe that this article was deleted without a clear consensus, and have nominated the article for undeletion. If you would like to contribute to the VfU discussion, please follow the link above. Thanks for your time! Pburka 00:17, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Mackerel Sky
Hi Denni,

Thanks for uploading the larger version of Image:Mackerelskybig.jpg - its one of my favourites. -- Solipsist 07:26, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Shlomi Harif
Hi, Shlomi Harif clearly did not meet criterion A7 for speedy deletion, please undelete it. Kappa 04:07, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

You rote (in part) ''Harif's claim to fame seems to be having published chapbooks. It did not take long for me to learn that a chapbook is a home-published book, using your own computer and printer. I think this is not the Oxford Press.''

 * FYI, a chapbook may or may not be home-published. A professionally printed and separately bound pamphlet is often called a chapbook particularly when intended for sepcial limited distributution. Special printings of a single story by the guest of honor at major SF conventions (for convention distribution only) are typically considered chapbooks. The key elements are that a chapbook is of small physical extent, having fewer pages than an normal book, and it is a special publication for limited distribution. That last meas it generally fails to establish notability, of course. Many chapbooks contain content by notable authors, but they were notable before the chapbooks were published. DES (talk) 13:29, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support on the autism FAC!
Thanks! Its now a Featured article. -- Ryan Norton T 03:56, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Back Roads
You're more patient than I with this User (abUser?) 152.163.100.132. I guess that's why you're an admin. ;-) hydnjo talk 02:55, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Eric Bobo
Allow me to first apologise for the delay in responding to your comment on my talk page, I'm not sure how it slipped past unaddressed. The point I took issue with was not your VfD'ing the article (despite the fact it was arguably a speedy candidate, but we won't belabour the point here); it was the slightly joky nature of your nomination text:

Jest havin' a little fun.

This looked very much to me, as someone who doesn't know your methods of operation, as if you were nominating the article for deletion in jest; for entertainment, etc. This could be construed as a bad faith nomination. No doubt it was a misunderstanding on my part, coupled with a slightly officious tone of response which didn't quite make clear what I had a problem with, which likely led to your misunderstanding. No harm done, now.

Incidentally, I'm well aware of policy, but I would like to know why you referred to "taking another administrator to task"? Rob Church Talk 01:47, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, cool. And no, I'm not an admin. Rob Church Talk 23:28, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi Denni!
Hi there - I replied to your comments on the Cambridge Arms, I'd just like to emphasise that just because I want to keep many things, doesn't mean that I want to keep everything - it is a little frustrating that every time one makes an argument for keeping (say) a pub, someone else comes back with 'well then, you must want to keep an article about my grandmother's toenail clippings then'. It's simply not true! Thanks listening to my rant! Yours, Trollderella 21:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message Denni, I did take a look at Everything2, and frankly, it is not my cup of tea. I sympathise with your not wanting WP to become a repository for trivia, and not that one of the interesting things about VFD is that it tends to make one look more extreme than one might really be. I lot of what I vote to keep, I would readily agree should be brutally pruned and probably merged, it is simply that I don't think deletion is needed. The pubs might be a classic example of this. Redirects of all the pubs in Cambridge to an article (or perhaps even a list) of pubs would suit me fine. Is it a topic you're interested in working on? I wish there was a way to task out some of these vfds to people who were willing to try to make something of them, the 'for' or 'against' tends to mitigate against finding common ground. See you around, and thanks for the comments. Trollderella 00:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Human Rights Servey on Wikipedia (The final post of I_sterbinski)

 * Dear all,

 * Wikipedia was recently a subject of intensive research of an huge international human right organization. A team of people from different nationalities and ages were acting on Wikipedia for 20 days, investigating previously noted anomalities of Wikipedia free editing and forming a final report, which (between the others similar reports) will later be a guide to all future moves of the organization concerning Wikipedia. Acting under an account of a real person, their privacy is to be held private. Therefore, very few private information will be revealed.
 * Also, this is a result of the lack of final possition of the organization concerning Wikipedia and human rights, which was still not formed.

 * The team's final post on Wikipedia, where they explain their actions can be found on the following addresses:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_sterbinski
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macedonia#Human_Rights_Servey_on_Wikipedia_.28The_final_post_of_I_sterbinski.29

 * The team would like to thank to all the persons who took part in the correspondence with us.
 * We also want to appologise for keeping our identity secret for a longer period.

 * Best regards,
 * Aleksandar, Biljana, Asparuh, Christos, Valjon, Michael and Ana Luiza
 * I sterbinski 01:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Rocks and Asteroids
I won't bother lengthening the VfD discussion with my somewhat off-beat thread, but I wanted to say that it was not intended by me as supporting the rock article (which is why I labeled it a comment rather than a keep). I don't view myself as either an inclusionist or deletionship but would like to see some consistency between areas and not just within areas. I think when we have many, many articles on very minor fictional characters and then argue about a professor who may be on the fringes of notability, that's silly. Which one is right, I don't know. When we have hundreds of porn actresses (and they all seem to be "stars") and hotly debate non-CEO businessmen as "not notable" is just goofy. And to set up a system which devotes well over a thousand articles to asteroids, lists of asteroids, discovers of asteroids, etc... (and which is set up for the ultimate expansion to all 90,000 if the red links are serious) while arguing about named geographical sites on this planet, seems a bit off. Since there are thousands of articles on individual episodes of TV shows, British railway stations, and other things that I never would have expected but seem to be well established, I just wanted to raise a comparison that I thought might cause some people to pause and think. No need to respond, I just like to vent occasionally. -- DS1953 20:37, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Date formats
1922 May 22 is not standard date format on Wikipedia; see [. I'm utterly mystified that you'd feel strongly enough about something as minor as changing a date format to actually deem it worth a revert. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] 00:43, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm only aware of YY-MM-DD being the approved format when the month's number is used; I've never seen that format used when the month was cited by name. If Wikipedia hasn't joined the 20th century in that regard, then neither has any other newspaper, book or website I've ever seen in my life. As for why I'd change one and not the other, well, people do occasionally miss things the first time. Bearcat 01:07, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Serbian culture
I have been progressively expanding this article since it was nominated for deletion on Sunday. So far, I have added sections on literature, music, art, cinema and theatre. I will add more in following days. I may or may not have it completely finished by the close of the vote but wanted to let you know that I am working on it. I would be grateful if you could have a look at it. Capitalistroadster 07:14, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

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Birgitte Silverbow
As you mentioned, it's not a copyvio. You might want to point out which page it's moved from though, I think it's necessary to comply with the GFDL. That, and it'll prevent people from marking it as a copyvio :-) --fvw *  00:33, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Moved userpage comment
''I noticed that this comment was left on your userpage - I'm taking the liberty of moving it to user:talk. Hope you don't mind :)'' --inks 22:44, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

I would like to know why you felt compelled to delete my post regarding Murshida Carol Weyland Conner of Sufism Reoriented.

There is only one article on the Internet regarding her, and I entered the URL as a link TO it.

And you deleted it. I would like to know why. There is no 'copyright' issue, people have been crossposting URLs since the dawn of the Internet. One might say that is the very purpose of the Internet.

Karl Moeller

mkarl2@qwest.net I have no idea how else to contact you. if there's a way to do so on your 'home' page on Wiki, I must've missed it.


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I removed the category for "Villages in Missouri" since it no longer officially exists. Since it merged with Republic (which is the governing entity), should it now be catagorized as an "unincorporated community" or a "defunct city"?Rt66lt 00:12, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I settled on "defunct cities".Rt66lt 03:31, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Carter

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy redirect as non-notable. Thue | talk 19:45, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Mike Carter
Not especially notable businessman. Dl yo ns 493  Ta lk   00:15, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Possibly a speedy. Sonic Mew | talk to me 00:38, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. No assertion of notability. Only 11 google hits for "Mike Carter" "Towers Perrin", and I don't think they're even all him. Maybe redirect to Michael Carter? Pburka 00:41, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect. 712 google hits for "mike carter" "Bib Fortuna", much more than for this guy.  (weird, this is more like a resume than normal autobiocruft)  --Interiot 01:40, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


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Pic of the day
Hi Denni,

Just to let you know that your photo Image:Mackerelskybig.jpg is due to make a reappearance as Pic of the Day on the 10th July. I've more or less used the same caption as last time, but you can make any changes at Picture of the day/July 12, 2005. -- Solipsist 3 July 2005 18:42 (UTC)

Michael Shahbaz VfD
The subject of this VfD is mis-spelled, rather than non-notable; I have moved the article to the proper spelling. Might you reconsider your nomination in light of this? Cheers! -- BD2412 talk July 4, 2005 00:43 (UTC)

Re: Urethral gland
Hi Denni! I'm sorry if I offended you by not discussing my changes to this article. However, I didn't really feel that I was in disagreement with you so, to my mind, there wasn't much to discuss. It looked to me that you had marked the article for speedy deletion under the "Very short articles providing little or no context" policy. I agreed that, under that policy it was a speedy candidate, however, after checking the entry on this subject in Encyclopedia Britannica I decided to try to save the article by providing enough context to take it beyond being a candidate for speedy deletion. The original author is an active editor, so I hoped that he might come back to this and expand it beyond a stub (I doubt that it will ever be a large article however—Britannica has three sentences on the subject). I have no strong feelings on this article though, so if you feel that it is still a speedy candidate please feel free to re-apply the tag—I will let another admin look at it and make the decision on whether or not to delete. JeremyA 4 July 2005 01:45 (UTC)

Sahaba
Thank you for your credits and tips!

I have a very hard time to include everything i find, right now i have 1...2...3...4.. 32 windows upp doing resarch.. when i find somthing i just add it and quickly move on.. but ill add "this is a sahaba of Muhammad" to the beggining of my standard template :)

Have a nice day!

--Striver 4 July 2005 02:40 (UTC)

Hello!

I hope your donig fine :)

I have a disagreement with a admin, and i would appreciate to se your point of view.

You can find the argumentation in his talk page and mine talk page.

the whole boils down to that the admin refuses to let me add this to the [Ali] article:

 * ''"Shias belive Ali was born in the Ka'ba. Some sunnis agree to that, but some say it was Hakim that was the only one to be born in it, therefor exluding Ali. And a third group dissmis the whole notion of somebody having been born in it. With current sources, it can not be established wich is the biggest of the three groups."

Have a nice day!

--Striver 13:58, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... ok, that came as a surprise. Thanks for your time!

A second question if i may: How come that you do not deem those links to prove that some Sunnis belive that someone was born on the Kabaa? I mean, it dosen't prove that all do, or even manny, but surley it proves that some do?

--Striver 02:34, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok, so it does not even prove that the ones that made the site belive in it?

--Striver 02:51, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Now i understan how you mean. Thanks for your time and have a good day/night!

--Striver 03:03, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi Denni!

I hade made a really long article in where i presented the Sunni and Shia vews on hadith that deal with Nikah Mut'ah. I hade invested a lot of time in it, and was on my way do spend more time on it. Gues what? It was deleted!

I looked though the rules and found this in here: Criteria_for_speedy_deletion

 * ''Sysops may immediately delete a page, so long as it satisfies one of the following criteria.

--This does not apply to content that was undeleted according to undeletion policy.
 * ''1. No meaningful content or history, text completely meaningless or unsalvageably incoherent (e.g. random characters). See patent nonsense.
 * ''2. Test pages (e.g., "Can I really create a page here?").
 * ''3. Pure vandalism (see also dealing with vandalism). This includes redirects created during cleanup of page move vandalism.
 * ''4. Reposted content that was deleted according to Wikipedia deletion policy.
 * ''5. Contributions made by a banned user after they were banned, unless the user has been unbanned. This is slightly controversial!
 * ''6. Temporarily deleting a page in order to merge page histories after a cut and paste move.
 * ''7. Any page which is requested for deletion by the original author, provided the author reasonably explains that it was created by mistake, and the page was edited only by its author.
 * ''8. Talk pages of already deleted pages unless they contain records of the deletion discussion and are linked from Wikipedia:Archived delete debates (this doesn't apply if the deletion discussion is logged elsewhere, like a VfD sub-page or other log).

My article did not resemble in any whay anything that is described there, so i would like to ask you to undelet it.

If you feel that the article does not deserve to be undeleted, i whould appreciat if you cared to motivated the decision for me.

The name of the article is: Hadiths connected with Mut'ah

Thank you for your time, --Striver 21:37, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!

i Love YOU!!

Ther is still some justice in the world!!

yeaaaa!!

u--hm-- I mean: Thank you for your time, i enough people share your view to make it through undeletion :)

Peace!

--Striver 23:54, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, i will keep that in mind. Just for your information, the article was more than 5 pages long. I would gues 10-15 pages.

--Striver 00:02, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Sign your posts on talk pages!
Remember to always sign all of your posts on talk pages. Typing four tildes after your comment ( ~~~~ ) will insert a signature showing your username and a date/time stamp, which is very helpful. Thanks, Alphax τεχ 5 July 2005 02:24 (UTC)
 * Well, you forgot to here. And {{unsigned}} is such a pain to use when you don't run in UTC. Edit summaries are my other pet peeve. Alphax τεχ 5 July 2005 02:37 (UTC)

Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3
PBurka pointed out that an important omission from this proposal: a band could meet WP:MUSIC criterion #5 (sharing a member with a famous band) and still be speedily deletable by this criterion. I've added a sentence to the proposal to reflect this: it now reads ''An article about a musician or music group that does not assert having released at least one album, nor having had media coverage, nor having a member that is or was also part of a well-known music group. If the assertion is disputed or controversial, it should be taken to VFD instead.'' Please consider if you support this new wording, and change your vote if not. Yours, Radiant_ >|< July 5, 2005 09:54 (UTC)

CSD Proposal 3-B
You voted or commented on Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-B or  Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-A or both. I have proposed a revised version, at Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-C. This version is intended to address objections made by many of those oppsoed to 3-A or 3-B. The revised propsal refers explicitly and directly to the criteria at WP:MUSIC. If you have not already done so, please examine the revised proposal and vote on it also. Thank you. DES 6 July 2005 05:09 (UTC)

Mason Remey article
Just to say that I removed your request for speedy deletion on Mason Remey. An anon had removed all the text on the page about 20 mins before you turned up there (he did nothing else on wikipedia except that).

Hopefully you'll agree that its right, but I thought I'd let you know -- Tomhab 9 July 2005 00:37 (UTC)

Thanks
Cheers Deni, you seem like a decent bloke, are you resident in Canada? Nick Boulevard 22:54, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Moist Towelette
I'm curious why you removed the speedy delete from Moist_towelette. I thought only admins were supposed to do that, yet I didn't see you on the list of administrators. --Barista | a/k/a マイケル | T/C 23:34, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I've been doing RC patrol less than a week, so I think I may have been too hasty on adding speedy delete. --Barista | a/k/a マイケル | T/C 12:44, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

VfD
Can you explain your reasons for labeling Anti-Semitism article with VfD? Resurrected by anon article which originally was redirected to Religious_denominations_in_Poland contains statements which not only are clearly POVs but border with the vandalism. The issue of Polish Anti-Semitism has been addressed in a number of recently discussed and revised articles such as History of the Jews in Poland, Anti-Semitism, History_of_Poland_%281939-1945%29, History_of_Poland_%281945-1989%29, Kielce Pogrom, Massacre in Jedwabne. Do you really think that VfD this article is in the best interest of wiki community? Rather than rising already high temperature among some editor excited by VfD on Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_July_5 and Votes_for_deletion/Anti-Polonism cool and rational approach should prevail. -Ttyre 00:03, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. --Ttyre 00:20, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

When voting for Votes for deletion/Anti-Semitism in Poland ends? --Ttyre 19:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Would you mind responding to my question? --Ttyre 16:48, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Anti-Semitism in Poland
Since you have submitted Anti-Semitism in Poland article for VfD it has been dramatically changed and is undergoing a revert war. Since a couple of dozen people already have voted on mostly original version of the article can you please revert it to the version at the VfD submission time and lock it? --Ttyre 01:31, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Strategic Policy Consulting
It is a candidate for speedy deletion under general criteria (4). Please see the associated VfD at Votes for deletion/Strategic Policy Consulting which closed June 18, 2005. Since then, the article has been recreated twice, with essentially no new material other than a mild re-write which made it a non-copyvio. --Durin 02:47, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

The other Wiki
Saw you creating a talk page on my Wiki...and also saw that you have done Wheel of Time-related pages for Wikipedia. I thought of doing that, too, but I didn't feel like fighting over which characters deserved their own pages. :-) And there's also a few articles on your list that make me suspect you might be a fellow Edmontonian...?

Anyway, welcome to "Concordances And Characters", if you feel like doing things there. If you want to work on Wheel of Time stuff, we should coordinate so we don't get in each other's way. I'm more likely to log into Concord than I am to Wikipedia these days.

Alfvaen 21:59, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Login timeout

 * In response to your July 16 post at the Village Pump:

You may want to go to "Internet Options" in the Control Panel folder and choose the "Privacy" tab. Make your browser accept all cookies. Also, check "remember me" when you log in. If you have more problems, please feel free to tell me! — Stevey7788 (talk) 20:44, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Molatar
What earthly reason did you have for restoring this pointless vanity page? It meets several aspects of a speedy candidate: not noteworthy, vanity based. Additionally it was one of series of related pages created by a obsessed anon user.

I have re-deleted it as we do not need a pointless VFD discussion on a vanity page. IF you can provide a good reason for allowing a VFD discussion (other than just a desire to follow due process) then please tell me. Manning 00:43, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

I've read your comments and I'm afraid I disagree with them wholeheartedly. The point of VFD is to resolve issues with the single goal of enhancing the quality of the 'pedia. It is not, and never has been a process to follow slavishly. From the early days the 'pedia has always been about quality, not process. Despite that - if you are really determined on this "following process" issue then go for it - I've got genuinely useful things to do. I just think you are wasting everyone's time with a stupid VFD issue that should just be allowed to die. Anyway, no offence intended and I hope we will agree on something else in the future. Regards Manning 01:48, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Categories
Hi there! Just thought I'd let you know that because of the templates on the "useful stuff" subpage of yours, you've put that page in certain categories that I'm sure you don't want it. The disambig template puts it in that category and the vfd template puts it in category:Pages on votes for deletion. The simple solution is to subst them in and then manually delete the category inks from the resulting code. It will be aesthetically identical. Thanks! --Dmcdevit·t 21:13, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Jean Baptiste Gustave Planche
Thanks! --Diderot 00:33, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Anti-Semitism in Poland
You put this up at VFD. The VFD was closed as no consensus (27:16 to delete - 62%).

As the result was "no consensus" you can move the old VFD and post a new one as soon as you wish, if you do. 00:30, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Page protection request
Please protect Creation science. See here for more details. -- BRIAN 0918  04:00, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks much. -- BRIAN 0918  04:15, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Non-existing towns/counties and VfD
Hi there. I noticed you listed all of those non-existing counties/towns of that anonymous IP on VfD. However, things which are clearly nonsense don't need to go through the already overfull VfD, but can get the speedy deletion shortcut - simply add instead of the Vfd header. Besides - that guy adding those hoax articles is a returning pest, I have deleted his nonsense several times already, and maybe other admins as well. andy 21:59, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Sistine Chapel Choir/Temp
You placed a speedy tag on this article with the explanation "posible copy vio Sistine Chapel Choir, indentical material posted here". I'm just curious about your reasoning. Have you evidence of copyvio? I was unable to find any, but my only resource was Google. In checking the main article, I note that it does not have the Early History section, which constitutes a significant portion of the article. (I will admit I am curious as to why this was simply not amended to the original.) Finally, the article appears to have been blanked at the same time the speedy tag was applied. I'm wondering why. (BTW, pleased to see another SETI screensaver user at work. Yay us!) Denni ☯ 23:59, 2005 July 30 (UTC)
 * When one suspects a copy vio it is necesary to "blank" the page untill copyright status is established. The copy vio tags aren't always acurate. Infact for Sistine Chapel Choir it was a false warning. When one is suspecting a copy vio and blanks this page the copy vio template clarifies for us to not reintroduce copy vio material to the /temp . It's just the procedure. The parts that werent copyrighted were not blanked. --Cool Cat My Talk 11:20, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Yay for SETI! --Cool Cat My Talk 11:20, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Votes for undeletion
You voted in the VfD for Admira Ismić and Boško Brkić. I believe that this article was deleted without a clear consensus, and have nominated the article for undeletion. If you would like to contribute to the VfU discussion, please follow the link above. Thanks for your time! Pburka 00:17, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Mackerel Sky
Hi Denni,

Thanks for uploading the larger version of Image:Mackerelskybig.jpg - its one of my favourites. -- Solipsist 07:26, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Shlomi Harif
Hi, Shlomi Harif clearly did not meet criterion A7 for speedy deletion, please undelete it. Kappa 04:07, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

You rote (in part) ''Harif's claim to fame seems to be having published chapbooks. It did not take long for me to learn that a chapbook is a home-published book, using your own computer and printer. I think this is not the Oxford Press.''

 * FYI, a chapbook may or may not be home-published. A professionally printed and separately bound pamphlet is often called a chapbook particularly when intended for sepcial limited distributution. Special printings of a single story by the guest of honor at major SF conventions (for convention distribution only) are typically considered chapbooks. The key elements are that a chapbook is of small physical extent, having fewer pages than an normal book, and it is a special publication for limited distribution. That last meas it generally fails to establish notability, of course. Many chapbooks contain content by notable authors, but they were notable before the chapbooks were published. DES (talk) 13:29, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support on the autism FAC!
Thanks! Its now a Featured article. -- Ryan Norton T 03:56, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Back Roads
You're more patient than I with this User (abUser?) 152.163.100.132. I guess that's why you're an admin. ;-) hydnjo talk 02:55, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Eric Bobo
Allow me to first apologise for the delay in responding to your comment on my talk page, I'm not sure how it slipped past unaddressed. The point I took issue with was not your VfD'ing the article (despite the fact it was arguably a speedy candidate, but we won't belabour the point here); it was the slightly joky nature of your nomination text:

Jest havin' a little fun.

This looked very much to me, as someone who doesn't know your methods of operation, as if you were nominating the article for deletion in jest; for entertainment, etc. This could be construed as a bad faith nomination. No doubt it was a misunderstanding on my part, coupled with a slightly officious tone of response which didn't quite make clear what I had a problem with, which likely led to your misunderstanding. No harm done, now.

Incidentally, I'm well aware of policy, but I would like to know why you referred to "taking another administrator to task"? Rob Church Talk 01:47, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, cool. And no, I'm not an admin. Rob Church Talk 23:28, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi Denni!
Hi there - I replied to your comments on the Cambridge Arms, I'd just like to emphasise that just because I want to keep many things, doesn't mean that I want to keep everything - it is a little frustrating that every time one makes an argument for keeping (say) a pub, someone else comes back with 'well then, you must want to keep an article about my grandmother's toenail clippings then'. It's simply not true! Thanks listening to my rant! Yours, Trollderella 21:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your message Denni, I did take a look at Everything2, and frankly, it is not my cup of tea. I sympathise with your not wanting WP to become a repository for trivia, and not that one of the interesting things about VFD is that it tends to make one look more extreme than one might really be. I lot of what I vote to keep, I would readily agree should be brutally pruned and probably merged, it is simply that I don't think deletion is needed. The pubs might be a classic example of this. Redirects of all the pubs in Cambridge to an article (or perhaps even a list) of pubs would suit me fine. Is it a topic you're interested in working on? I wish there was a way to task out some of these vfds to people who were willing to try to make something of them, the 'for' or 'against' tends to mitigate against finding common ground. See you around, and thanks for the comments. Trollderella 00:50, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Human Rights Servey on Wikipedia (The final post of I_sterbinski)

 * Dear all,

 * Wikipedia was recently a subject of intensive research of an huge international human right organization. A team of people from different nationalities and ages were acting on Wikipedia for 20 days, investigating previously noted anomalities of Wikipedia free editing and forming a final report, which (between the others similar reports) will later be a guide to all future moves of the organization concerning Wikipedia. Acting under an account of a real person, their privacy is to be held private. Therefore, very few private information will be revealed.
 * Also, this is a result of the lack of final possition of the organization concerning Wikipedia and human rights, which was still not formed.

 * The team's final post on Wikipedia, where they explain their actions can be found on the following addresses:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_sterbinski
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macedonia#Human_Rights_Servey_on_Wikipedia_.28The_final_post_of_I_sterbinski.29

 * The team would like to thank to all the persons who took part in the correspondence with us.
 * We also want to appologise for keeping our identity secret for a longer period.

 * Best regards,
 * Aleksandar, Biljana, Asparuh, Christos, Valjon, Michael and Ana Luiza
 * I sterbinski 01:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Rocks and Asteroids
I won't bother lengthening the VfD discussion with my somewhat off-beat thread, but I wanted to say that it was not intended by me as supporting the rock article (which is why I labeled it a comment rather than a keep). I don't view myself as either an inclusionist or deletionship but would like to see some consistency between areas and not just within areas. I think when we have many, many articles on very minor fictional characters and then argue about a professor who may be on the fringes of notability, that's silly. Which one is right, I don't know. When we have hundreds of porn actresses (and they all seem to be "stars") and hotly debate non-CEO businessmen as "not notable" is just goofy. And to set up a system which devotes well over a thousand articles to asteroids, lists of asteroids, discovers of asteroids, etc... (and which is set up for the ultimate expansion to all 90,000 if the red links are serious) while arguing about named geographical sites on this planet, seems a bit off. Since there are thousands of articles on individual episodes of TV shows, British railway stations, and other things that I never would have expected but seem to be well established, I just wanted to raise a comparison that I thought might cause some people to pause and think. No need to respond, I just like to vent occasionally. -- DS1953 20:37, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

Date formats
1922 May 22 is not standard date format on Wikipedia; see [. I'm utterly mystified that you'd feel strongly enough about something as minor as changing a date format to actually deem it worth a revert. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] 00:43, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm only aware of YY-MM-DD being the approved format when the month's number is used; I've never seen that format used when the month was cited by name. If Wikipedia hasn't joined the 20th century in that regard, then neither has any other newspaper, book or website I've ever seen in my life. As for why I'd change one and not the other, well, people do occasionally miss things the first time. Bearcat 01:07, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Serbian culture
I have been progressively expanding this article since it was nominated for deletion on Sunday. So far, I have added sections on literature, music, art, cinema and theatre. I will add more in following days. I may or may not have it completely finished by the close of the vote but wanted to let you know that I am working on it. I would be grateful if you could have a look at it. Capitalistroadster 07:14, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

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Birgitte Silverbow
As you mentioned, it's not a copyvio. You might want to point out which page it's moved from though, I think it's necessary to comply with the GFDL. That, and it'll prevent people from marking it as a copyvio :-) --fvw *  00:33, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Moved userpage comment
''I noticed that this comment was left on your userpage - I'm taking the liberty of moving it to user:talk. Hope you don't mind :)'' --inks 22:44, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

I would like to know why you felt compelled to delete my post regarding Murshida Carol Weyland Conner of Sufism Reoriented.

There is only one article on the Internet regarding her, and I entered the URL as a link TO it.

And you deleted it. I would like to know why. There is no 'copyright' issue, people have been crossposting URLs since the dawn of the Internet. One might say that is the very purpose of the Internet.

Karl Moeller

mkarl2@qwest.net I have no idea how else to contact you. if there's a way to do so on your 'home' page on Wiki, I must've missed it.